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1 Kragar  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:02:52pm
2 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:02:53pm

Needs moar Alien Abductions.

3 Amory Blaine  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:04:40pm

My wife and I sleep in separate rooms during workdays. We must be gay!!!

4 freetoken  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:04:56pm

… and a communist (because we all know Nazism is really socialism, right?) … and a Darwinist, inspired by evolution to do eugenics, as all progressives desire.

So there.

5 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:05:05pm

So what. No issue of public policy in the US today is remotely affected by Hitler’s sex life.

Is ‘category error’ the only game in town for RW hacks these days?

6 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:05:44pm

Can’t read but I am curious. Did Nazi Doctors invent Gaydar? If yes, I’m glad they didn’t use it to win the war.

7 Kragar  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:06:04pm

In a actually some what related note, we were going thru some boxes in the basement this morning and found a bunch of pictures my dad’s uncle took during World War 2. Turns out he had liberated one of the concentration camps and we had some of those pictures sitting in the basement gathering dust. My mom had me bring them up and she’s going thru all that stuff now.

8 Amory Blaine  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:06:05pm

Who knew all them Nuremberg marches were gay pride parades!!

9 Kragar  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:06:40pm

re: #8 Amory Blaine

Who knew all them Nuremberg marches were gay pride parades!!

BRYAN FISCHER!!!

10 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:07:40pm

re: #6 Iwouldprefernotto

Can’t read but I am curious. Did Nazi Doctors invent Gaydar? If yes, I’m glad they didn’t use it to win the war.

That would explains why the V-rockets unerringly struck bathhouses.

11 GeneJockey  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:07:46pm

re: #3 Amory Blaine

My wife and I sleep in separate rooms during workdays. We must be gay!!!

You sleep during the workday? Where can I get a job like that?

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12 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:08:14pm

Hitler was gay at Compiegne, but was decidedly in a funk after Kursk.

13 Charles Johnson  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:09:38pm

The evidence: a notoriously squirrely Army interviewer scribbled “Homosex” in his notes while interviewing one of Hitler’s doctors.

14 darthstar  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:10:56pm

Hitler’s still dead, right? Why is this important?

15 Kragar  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:11:01pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

The evidence: a notoriously squirrely Army interviewer scribbled “Homosex” in his notes while interviewing one of Hitler’s doctors.

SCIENCE!

16 Kragar  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:11:29pm

re: #14 darthstar

Hitler’s still dead, right? Why is this important?

Because…

BEN-GAY-ZI!

17 Amory Blaine  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:12:02pm

And the homophobia flows like wine in the comment section..

18 darthstar  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:12:35pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

The evidence: a notoriously squirrely Army interviewer scribbled “Homosex” in his notes while interviewing one of Hitler’s doctors.

Actually, he was writing “home at six” because he promised his wife he wouldn’t be late for dinner, but because doctors have notoriously bad penmanship, it just looked like “homosex”…case closed.

19 darthstar  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:13:41pm

And bin Laden was watching big tittie porn when we killed his ass…why aren’t we doing more to ban these weapons of mass distraction?

20 bratwurst  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:14:32pm

Repost from earlier:

This is almost certainly not true, but even if it were it would say absolutely nothing about homosexuals. Hitler was DEFINITELY Austrian, but few people make the leap to suggest Austrians have a predilection to mass murder.

Of course, early Hitler supporter and head of the SA Ernst Röhm was gay, and he was not alone in that organization. However, one might think that the fact that he was jailed and killed as part of the “Night of Long Knives” in 1934, and the SA was sidelined from that point on would demonstrate how the Nazi government truly felt about homosexuals. Oh yeah…there is also that fact that an estimated 100,000 men were arrested in Germany as homosexuals between 1933 and 1945.

21 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:18:35pm

I don’t get the purpose of this. Most historians conclude that he was either heterosexual or asexual. But if he was gay? What would it prove? That gays somehow deserve to be persecuted the way Hitler persecuted people? Sorry Breitbart, Bryan Fischer, it doesn’t work that way and it shouldn’t. We know for a definite fact that Stalin and Mao Zedong were straight. Yet there’s no rush among gay activists to limits the rights of heterosexual men because those two were straight. I don’t think Hitler was gay but you know what even if he was, discrimination against LGBT people would still be wrong. There were definitely straight and Christian Nazis, and do we see the people on Breitbart advocating that they be treated like second class citizens because of that fact, no and nor should we. Fuck this stupid shit.

22 GeneJockey  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:18:36pm

re: #17 Amory Blaine

And the homophobia flows like wine in the comment section..

Yeesh. I wouldn’t enter that place in hip waders.

23 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:19:32pm

re: #20 bratwurst

Repost from earlier:

This is almost certainly not true, but even if it were it would say absolutely nothing about homosexuals. Hitler was DEFINITELY Austrian, but few people make the leap to suggest Austrians have a predilection to mass murder.

Of course, early Hitler supporter and head of the SA Ernst Röhm was gay, and he was not alone in that organization. However, one might think that the fact that he was jailed and killed as part of the “Night of Long Knives” in 1934, and the SA was sidelined from that point on would demonstrate how the Nazi government truly felt about homosexuals. Oh yeah…there is also that fact that an estimated 100,000 men were arrested in Germany as homosexuals between 1933 and 1945.

Frigging Austrians. Always up to something. And man don’t get me started on those with dark hair and blue eyes. Bunch of monsters!

24 GeneJockey  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:20:15pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Presumably IF Hitler = Gay, THEN Gay = Hitler.

25 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:21:57pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Hitler was indisputably a creature of the political far right. So, that makes US wing nuts proto-Nazis?

Doesn’t work that way. I loathe wing nuts, but they have a long way to go before they get into Nazi territory.

26 Joanne  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:21:57pm

re: #5 EPR-radar

So what. No issue of public policy in the US today is remotely affected by Hitler’s sex life.

Is ‘category error’ the only game in town for RW hacks these days?

It’s Teh Gheys. Supporting gay marriages encourages the next Hitler!

Or something.

27 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:23:26pm

re: #24 GeneJockey

Presumably IF Hitler = Gay, THEN Gay = Hitler.

Yeah but I don’t get how they explain the obvious straight and Christian Nazis. Of course, these are the same people who deny adamantly that gay people were ever persecuted by the Third Reich. Hitler’s not any more evil if he’s a gay man. He merely becomes that son of a bitch who happened to be gay, not someone gay who happened to be a sob. I mean if they used their same twisted logic on other people, they would realize how fucking stupid they look but because it’s gays, it’s okay I guess.

28 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:24:12pm

re: #26 Joanne

It’s Teh Gheys. Supporting gay marriages encourages the next Hitler!

Or something.

Reminds me of the marriage cases. When pressed for evidence that gay marriage was a threat to society, all the nutjobs were able to present as ‘evidence’ was “its icky”.

29 GeneJockey  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:24:26pm

re: #25 EPR-radar

Hitler was indisputably a creature of the political far right.

I’ve seen it disputed, but usually at the level of

It was called the National SOCIALIST Party, Libtard! CONFIRMED! FACT!!

30 Amory Blaine  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:25:21pm

Watching the Naughton twins on PBS

Wonderful.

31 Joanne  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:25:26pm

re: #25 EPR-radar

Hitler was indisputably a creature of the political far right. So, that makes US wing nuts proto-Nazis?

Doesn’t work that way. I loathe wing nuts, but they have a long way to go before they get into Nazi territory.

How many times have you seen KILL ALL LIBURALS!!!? I’ve seen it (the usual places and Twitter, of course) often. And dehumanizing humans truly is a step towards being able to readily kill another human being because they’re not human; they’re traitorous liburals.

32 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:25:48pm

re: #29 GeneJockey

I’ve seen it disputed, but usually at the level of

That’s kind of like the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

Names can be meaningless.

33 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:26:29pm

re: #25 EPR-radar

Hitler was indisputably a creature of the political far right. So, that makes US wing nuts proto-Nazis?

Doesn’t work that way. I loathe wing nuts, but they have a long way to go before they get into Nazi territory.

Well in their mind, Hitle was a creature of the far left. Of course, they totally ignore that he persecuted both the moderate left and far left and the far left were among his earliest victims once in power but they’re fixated on the fact that the Nazis called themselves National Socialists and use that as proof that the Nazis were left wing. Ask them about the German Democratic Republic aka East Germany and you get a blank stare. Nazism was different from traditional European rightism in that it wasn’t monarchical or neo-monarchical in nature but make no mistake, Nazism was and is a part of the far right. You can’t hate on the left for embracing multiculturalism and then call us Nazis, a group that talked about “master race.” And I agree, I’ve got no love for them either but htey’ve got a way to go till they hit Nazi territory.

34 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:26:52pm
So what. No issue of public policy in the US today is remotely affected by Hitler’s sex life.

Is ‘category error’ the only game in town for RW hacks these days?

They want to see President Palin kick some Nazi ass:

35 Joanne  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:27:19pm

re: #28 EPR-radar

Reminds me of the marriage cases. When pressed for evidence that gay marriage was a threat to society, all the nutjobs were able to present as ‘evidence’ was “its icky”.

So is fruitcake. Ban fruitcake!! (What’s that weird candied fruit shit inside? It’s icky! Icky I say!)

36 GeneJockey  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:27:42pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Yeah but I don’t get how they explain the obvious straight and Christian Nazis.

TheY wuz LIB’RULS!!

Of course, these are the same people who deny adamantly that gay people were ever persecuted by the Third Reich.

Try telling them Communists and Union leaders were some of the first to get disappeared.

Hitler’s not any more evil if he’s a gay man. He merely becomes that son of a bitch who happened to be gay, not someone gay who happened to be a sob. I mean if they used their same twisted logic on other people, they would realize how fucking stupid they look but because it’s gays, it’s okay I guess.

If you think they’re thinking, you’re overthinking.

//

37 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:27:53pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Yeah but I don’t get how they explain the obvious straight and Christian Nazis. Of course, these are the same people who deny adamantly that gay people were ever persecuted by the Third Reich. Hitler’s not any more evil if he’s a gay man. He merely becomes that son of a bitch who happened to be gay, not someone gay who happened to be a sob. I mean if they used their same twisted logic on other people, they would realize how fucking stupid they look but because it’s gays, it’s okay I guess.

Not only were gay people persecuted by the Third Reich, ‘liberation’ for gay concentration camp inmates by the Allies tended to be a transfer to a more humane prison system as opposed to any real liberation.

38 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:28:34pm

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s kind of like the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

Names can be meaningless.

or the German Democratic Republic, I believe North Korea has “democratic” in its name somewhere too. I also remember reading about a Russian far right party who are called the Liberal Democrats. The socialist part of National Socialist was a cynical ploy to get working class support. Lest it not be forgotten that Hitler gladly appealed to industrialists personally to support him. A socialist would not have done that.

39 Joanne  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:28:46pm

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s kind of like the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

Names can be meaningless.

You mean like Progressive Conservatives? That one still gives me whiplash.

40 GeneJockey  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:29:40pm

re: #35 Joanne

So is fruitcake. Ban fruitcake!! (What’s that weird candied fruit shit inside? It’s icky! Icky I say!)

You must not be using enough rum to soak it before eating.

41 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:30:51pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Official name for the nork regime: Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.

Extra helping of BS in the official name here.

42 Joanne  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:32:20pm

re: #40 GeneJockey

You must not be using enough rum to soak it before eating.

There’s not enuf rum in the world to get me to eat fruitcake. That’s Fear Factor material.

43 kirkspencer  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:34:51pm

re: #42 Joanne

There’s not enuf rum in the world to get me to eat fruitcake. That’s Fear Factor material.

While I’m rather “eh” about purchased fruitcake, a home-made one is something special.

44 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:35:24pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

I don’t get the purpose of this. Most historians conclude that he was either heterosexual or asexual. But if he was gay? What would it prove? That gays somehow deserve to be persecuted the way Hitler persecuted people? Sorry Breitbart, Bryan Fischer, it doesn’t work that way and it shouldn’t. We know for a definite fact that Stalin and Mao Zedong were straight. Yet there’s no rush among gay activists to limits the rights of heterosexual men because those two were straight. I don’t think Hitler was gay but you know what even if he was, discrimination against LGBT people would still be wrong. There were definitely straight and Christian Nazis, and do we see the people on Breitbart advocating that they be treated like second class citizens because of that fact, no and nor should we. Fuck this stupid shit.

He was heterosexual enough to have multiple female lovers (other than Eva Braun), who were interviewed after the war.

45 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:36:03pm

re: #41 EPR-radar

Official name for the nork regime: Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.

Extra helping of BS in the official name here.

I believe the Daily Show book, America did something like that with Congo. But yeah you’d think that wingnuts being huge anti-communists would know that sometimes a name is just a name. They also ignore that Hitler purged the left wing part of the Nazi party. And as I said, you can’t hate on the political left for being multicultural and accepting of different cultures and call them Nazis, sorry you just can’t. Of course, I love it when they call the KKK lefties too since the early KKK leaders were Democrats which proves nothing. Of course, if you also point out to them that many of the leaders of the Indiana Klan, OC klan, and New Jersey klan were in fact Republicans, you’ll get “WHY ARE YOU CALLING ME RACIST” These are the same people who shouted KKK Byrd but had no problem with Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms being members of their party and call the Civil War the War of Northern Aggression.

46 Joanne  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:38:58pm

re: #43 kirkspencer

While I’m rather “eh” about purchased fruitcake, a home-made one is something special.

Ima gonna hafta take your word on that. ;-)

47 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:39:06pm

re: #31 Joanne

How many times have you seen KILL ALL LIBURALS!!!? I’ve seen it (the usual places and Twitter, of course) often. And dehumanizing humans truly is a step towards being able to readily kill another human being because they’re not human; they’re traitorous liburals.

There are elements of the US far right that are flirting with Naziism, but IMO this is still a lunatic fringe, even for wingnuts. Open adherence to an ideology of elimination and physical thuggery by GOP leaders is absent, so far.

48 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:39:11pm

re: #44 The Ghost of a Flea

He was heterosexual enough to have multiple female lovers (other than Eva Braun), who were interviewed after the war.

Right. I believe he was too. You’d also think that the German left which was actually pretty tolerant of homosexuals in the Weimar Republic would have found some disgruntled lover to discredit Hitler at the polls. They didn’t. But as I said, even if he was gay which I think we can say looking at the evidence, it’s very probable that he was straight, it proves nothing if he was gay. The whole idea of one evil man being one thing and making that validate discrimination against that man’s group means you’re validating that evil. Note, I’m not comparing them to Nazis but I am saying that they clearly haven’t learned a damn thing from the lessons of the Nazis who scapegoated Jews, leftists, homosexuals, Romani, and others to get power.

49 Joanne  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:43:19pm

re: #47 EPR-radar

There are elements of the US far right that are flirting with Naziism, but IMO this is still a lunatic fringe, even for wingnuts. Open adherence to an ideology of elimination and physical thuggery by GOP leaders is absent, so far.

Limbaugh, defacto leader of the GOP, has dehumanized liberals and democrats for 30+ years. I’m going to withhold judgement on GOP leadership for maybe 7-10 years. As they lose election after election that’s not gerrymandered, we’ll see how they respond.

Boehner went all Benghazi just yesterday.

50 darthstar  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:44:31pm

re: #44 The Ghost of a Flea

He was heterosexual enough to have multiple female lovers (other than Eva Braun), who were interviewed after the war.

According to this documentary, he never really loved her.

51 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:45:29pm

re: #49 Joanne

Limbaugh, defacto leader of the GOP, has dehumanized liberals and democrats for 30+ years. I’m going to withhold judgement on GOP leadership for maybe 7-10 years. As they lose election after election that’s not gerrymandered, we’ll see how they respond.

Boehner went all Benghazi just yesterday.

That’s pretty much where I’m at. If the demographic tide really does turn severely against the GOP, its transformation into a neo-Nazi/fascist party is a distinct possibility.

52 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:48:21pm

Outrage after theater hires fake gunmen to storm theater as part of ‘Iron Man’ publicity stunt

To promote its premiere of the new Iron Man movie, a theater in Jefferson City, Missouri, hired several people to dress in full tactical gear and storm the screening with fake weapons drawn.

Not surprisingly, some people were not too keen on the “publicity stunt.”

“We’re just getting into the car when I spotted a man in full assault gear, carrying what appeared to be a modified M-4 and 9 mm on his side,” said John Molock, an army war vet who says the experience triggered his PTSD.

In addition to stoking the ire of theatergoers, the stunt also garnered poor reviews from the local police department which was forced to field several nervous 911 calls.

“We received a series of 911 calls stating that a man dressed in all black and body armor and a rifle was walking into Capital 8 Theaters,” Capt. Doug Shoemaker told the local Fox affiliate.

“Everything was in place, it’s the opening night of a superhero movie, it’s somebody walking in all-dark clothes, everything pointed to bad things about to happen,” Shoemaker added, referencing the Aurora movie theater shooting that took place last July. “There’s really no good that can come of this.”

I can’t believe a theater owner would EVER think this was a good idea after what happened last summer, but apparently he did and he’s unapologetic about it:

But Capital 8 Theaters manager Bob Wilkins remains defiant, telling the ABC affiliate that he did not regret pulling the stunt, which he said was planned months in advance.

“My job is to entertain people,” Wilkins said, claiming only “a few” patrons were upset.

Shoemaker noted that angry customers would have been the least of Wilkins’ worries if someone with a concealed weapon would have mistaken the stunt for an active shooter event and acted in self-defense.

53 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:52:21pm

re: #49 Joanne

Limbaugh, defacto leader of the GOP, has dehumanized liberals and democrats for 30+ years. I’m going to withhold judgement on GOP leadership for maybe 7-10 years. As they lose election after election that’s not gerrymandered, we’ll see how they respond.

Boehner went all Benghazi just yesterday.

I’d buy a figurative 12 back for the first GOP leader to tell Rush to shut up and that his viciousness has no place in discourse but that will never happen anytime soon because the GOP leadership repeatedly shows they care more about satisfying Lord Limbaugh’s happiness rath er than the American people. I think they need a big landslide where the present idea of conservatism is totally repudiated. Again, I don’t see that happening because I think the way the country is now, at least 45% of the people will vote Republican even if someone completely wacko like Rick Santorum is the nominee. And who knows, being landslided may push some of those GOP state legislatures to try their crazy idea about making EVs proportional just out of spite. But as I said, perhaps a complete GOP landslide would do the trick. They need better leaders too. They need as I said a couple nights back a second Eisenhower. Someone from outside politics or at least their establishment who isn’t afraid to say “You know what, global warming is happening” or “We shouldn’t interfere with a woman’s right to choose” or “I don’t care if gays want to get married.” They need that or they’ll never get anywhere near this younger geneation of voters. Despite what they believe about us in Gen Y, we’re not suddenly going to forget that we support equality for gay couples because we have gay friends who we see as our equals and that’s not going to change whether I’m 25 like I am now or 55 in 30 years.

54 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:53:13pm

re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg

Outrage after theater hires fake gunmen to storm theater as part of ‘Iron Man’ publicity stunt

I can’t believe a theater owner would EVER think this was a good idea after what happened last summer, but apparently he did and he’s unapologetic about it:

Idiots. They could give someone a heart attack. Some of us like to go to the movies you know for quiet.

55 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:53:58pm

re: #53 HappyWarrior

I’d buy a figurative 12 back for the first GOP leader to tell Rush to shut up and that his viciousness has no place in discourse but that will never happen anytime soon because the GOP leadership repeatedly shows they care more about satisfying Lord Limbaugh’s happiness rath er than the American people. I think they need a big landslide where the present idea of conservatism is totally repudiated. Again, I don’t see that happening because I think the way the country is now, at least 45% of the people will vote Republican even if someone completely wacko like Rick Santorum is the nominee. And who knows, being landslided may push some of those GOP state legislatures to try their crazy idea about making EVs proportional just out of spite. But as I said, perhaps a complete GOP landslide would do the trick. They need better leaders too. They need as I said a couple nights back a second Eisenhower. Someone from outside politics or at least their establishment who isn’t afraid to say “You know what, global warming is happening” or “We shouldn’t interfere with a woman’s right to choose” or “I don’t care if gays want to get married.” They need that or they’ll never get anywhere near this younger geneation of voters. Despite what they believe about us in Gen Y, we’re not suddenly going to forget that we support equality for gay couples because we have gay friends who we see as our equals and that’s not going to change whether I’m 25 like I am now or 55 in 30 years.

I think that the first moderate Republican that stands up to Rush has a chance of winning the presidency. I said chance.

Night Lizards.

56 Joanne  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:58:13pm

re: #53 HappyWarrior

I think right now Limbaugh is trying to figure out how to make mega bucks on the web (a la Glenn Beck) because he knows his days are numbered (at least on terrestrial radio).

Alas, Fox and the other radio mouth breathers are there to pick up any slack.

57 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 6:58:16pm

re: #55 Iwouldprefernotto

I think that the first moderate Republican that stands up to Rush has a chance of winning the presidency. I said chance.

Night Lizards.

or bringing new people into the party. Really, I can’t speak for everyone in my generation but the GOP’s problem with younger voters is their backwards as shit stances on cultural issues and Limbaugh’s a big part of that. We’re not despite what people like Jonah Goldberg believe leftists. Yes, I’ve known some leftists in my day but I’ve known some people who love the free market just as much. What most Gen-Y people have in common ideologically wise is a socially liberal to libertarian view of the world. We don’t think it’s right for you to tell women that they shouldn’t be able to get a procedure that has been accepted time and time again as constitutional. We don’t like being told that our gay friends and family don’t deserve the same rights as us because of a Holy Book especially knowing that holy book says a lot of other stuff. We don’t like being told Global Warming is a hoax despite evidence to the contrary. We don’t like an ideology that acts like government assistance is terrible because it’s big bad government but is okay with the excesses of the drug war. We’re not I guess truly “liberal” but we definitely don’t like modern Conservatism and I think the Gen-Y stay out of our way is why on paper why someone like Ron Paul appeals to young people. He shouldn’t because they should look at what he really says.

58 Renaissance_Man  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:00:10pm

re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg

Outrage after theater hires fake gunmen to storm theater as part of ‘Iron Man’ publicity stunt

I can’t believe a theater owner would EVER think this was a good idea after what happened last summer, but apparently he did and he’s unapologetic about it:

Personally, I can’t believe that in the United States, a civilised Western democracy that has not seen war or martial law on its soil in over 100 years, people are so conditioned by the blood sacrifice of their fellow citizens that something like this, which would be a fairly obvious publicity stunt in other civilised democracies, has people immediately and justifiably afraid of yet another mass shooting.

59 Joanne  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:00:55pm

re: #55 Iwouldprefernotto

Not a chance of making it through a primary. That’s what’s going to kill Christie’s chances.

60 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:01:36pm

re: #56 Joanne

I think right now Limbaugh is trying to figure out how to make mega bucks on the web (a la Glenn Beck) because he knows his days are numbered (at least on terrestrial radio).

Alas, Fox and the other radio mouth breathers are there to pick up any slack.

The problem is there’s so many Limbaugh clones out there. Some of whom like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck are even more a danger to the discourse in this country because they repeatedly try to act like Obama themselves has threatened them. Rush doesn’t do that or if he does, it’s not as common place as Beck or Jones claiming that Obama wants them dead. Not a defense of Rush but he doesn’t do that. Of course, he makes up for it by being one of the most hateful pricks out there.

61 JeffFX  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:03:58pm

re: #57 HappyWarrior

Excellent rant, I agree completely, but if you can still edit, you should change “total” to “told”

62 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:06:20pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

Right. I believe he was too. You’d also think that the German left which was actually pretty tolerant of homosexuals in the Weimar Republic would have found some disgruntled lover to discredit Hitler at the polls. They didn’t. But as I said, even if he was gay which I think we can say looking at the evidence, it’s very probable that he was straight, it proves nothing if he was gay. The whole idea of one evil man being one thing and making that validate discrimination against that man’s group means you’re validating that evil. Note, I’m not comparing them to Nazis but I am saying that they clearly haven’t learned a damn thing from the lessons of the Nazis who scapegoated Jews, leftists, homosexuals, Romani, and others to get power.

It’s not just that there’s no room for deeper analysis in the rhetorical scheme, it’s that there’s an utterly cynical desire to simplify everything down to “you’re the Nazis, YOU ARE WRONG”…and, being less forgiving than you, I think there’s a reason for that.

They’re distracting from their own revanchist, nationalist rhetoric that glorifies manly, retaliatory violence; talk of the merits of active discrimination and a tiered society; and a vague sociopolitical agenda that involves nostalgia for a bygone era in which their privilege was unchecked by legal or ethical complaints. They’re not Nazis, but they’re dipping into the same well of last-two-centuries rightist thoughts that resulted in fascism of the kind that emerged in Europe. That’s not a kind thing to say, but I don’t know how else to describe the mindset and accompanying legislative efforts.

63 Joanne  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:10:56pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

The problem is there’s so many Limbaugh clones out there. Some of whom like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck are even more a danger to the discourse in this country because they repeatedly try to act like Obama themselves has threatened them. Rush doesn’t do that or if he does, it’s not as common place as Beck or Jones claiming that Obama wants them dead. Not a defense of Rush but he doesn’t do that. Of course, he makes up for it by being one of the most hateful pricks out there.

(Sigh)

So correct.

64 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:11:25pm

re: #61 JeffFX

Excellent rant, I agree completely, but if you can still edit, you should change “total” to “told”

Hey, thanks and thanks for the catch. Really, I am sick of being told that we’re just a bunch of leftists who will see how great conservatism is once we get money. It’s not about money. I could be worth 1000 times what I am now and my social values would still be the same.

65 Joanne  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:13:06pm

re: #62 The Ghost of a Flea

Not just less forgiving of you, thinks any way different than exactly as they do.

66 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:14:22pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

The problem is there’s so many Limbaugh clones out there. Some of whom like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck are even more a danger to the discourse in this country because they repeatedly try to act like Obama themselves has threatened them. Rush doesn’t do that or if he does, it’s not as common place as Beck or Jones claiming that Obama wants them dead. Not a defense of Rush but he doesn’t do that. Of course, he makes up for it by being one of the most hateful pricks out there.

It would get very dangerous if any of these wannabes has real charisma. A charismatic leader + a target for their hate would make US wingnuts a grave threat. Despite all the “death to liberals” chatter out there, liberals aren’t a good enough target. For one thing, some of the conservatives who can write in complete sentences like to call themselves ‘classical liberals’.

67 jaunte  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:14:36pm
Merl wrote that Hitler was “hysterical,” a “megalomaniac,” and might have had Parkinson’s disease.

So, according to the same standards of evidence, the Breitbarts must conclude that Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Michael J. Fox are also Nazis.

68 darthstar  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:14:47pm

Aw…Rest in peace, Lena Horne.

69 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:16:06pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

The evidence: a notoriously squirrely Army interviewer scribbled “Homosex” in his notes while interviewing one of Hitler’s doctors.

Haven’t we known that for quite some time? I mean, I’ve heard that Hitler was gay approximately a million times, but I’m pretty sure I’ve also heard of this bit of notation before. Not recently, even. Why is this a bombshell of any sort?

70 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:16:33pm

re: #14 darthstar

Hitler’s still dead, right? Why is this important?

I’m not really seeing how it would be relevant if Hitler were still alive.

71 BigPapa  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:17:15pm

Whoah, SFZ in da houz!

72 sattv4u2  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:18:36pm

re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist

:)

73 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:18:57pm

re: #62 The Ghost of a Flea

Good analysis. IMO, the essence of right wing politics is the idea that it is proper for some form of aristocracy to rule over lesser beings. How the aristocrats are defined (birth, money, race, supposed merit) is a secondary issue.

74 Joanne  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:19:32pm

re: #68 darthstar

Aw…Rest in peace, Lena Horne.

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Aww. Shame. RIP.

75 bratwurst  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:20:04pm

re: #56 Joanne

I think right now Limbaugh is trying to figure out how to make mega bucks on the web (a la Glenn Beck) because he knows his days are numbered (at least on terrestrial radio).

Keep in mind:

A) Beck is still on terrestrial radio every single day.

and

B) Clear Channel is under contract to pay Rush $50,000,000 per year through 2016.

If Rush’s days on terrestrial radio are numbered, we are looking at a 4 digit number. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it is a fact.

76 Joanne  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:22:11pm

re: #73 EPR-radar

Good analysis. IMO, the essence of right wing politics is the idea that it is proper for some form of aristocracy to rule over lesser beings. How the aristocrats are defined (birth, money, race, supposed merit) is a secondary issue.

Because…JOE THE PLUMMER syndrome; the certainty that you’ll be in that aristocracy in short order.

77 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:23:45pm

re: #65 Joanne

Not just less forgiving of you, thinks any way different than exactly as they do.

I should add that when I say less forgiving, I mean it as a positive trait. I am not a patient or tolerant person when it comes to this subject. I don’t think I want to explain it at length, but I’m aware that my harshness comes from personal trauma as much as from analysis.

78 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:24:00pm

re: #76 Joanne

Because…JOE THE PLUMMER syndrome; the certainty that you’ll be in that aristocracy in short order.

We may end up in a new feudalism in the US because 30% of the voters think they’ll be in the top 1% and vote as if they’ve already made it.

79 darthstar  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:26:21pm

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m not really seeing how it would be relevant if Hitler were still alive.

If Hitler were still alive it would be because Benghazi.

80 Gus  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:29:52pm

Did you read the comments? These people are weird.

81 bratwurst  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:30:03pm

From tonight’s Chicagoland police blotter:

Police Say Man Sexually Abused His Peacock

82 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:30:52pm

re: #80 Gus

Did you read the comments? These people are weird.

Briefly. All it gave me was an urge to bathe.

83 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:32:16pm

re: #81 bratwurst

WHY??!!?!?!

Whywhywhywhywhywhy.

Why the fuck would you do that?!!?!?

That is absolutely disgusting to do to an animal. He needs to be put in the slammer for a long time.

84 Gus  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:32:25pm

re: #82 EPR-radar

Briefly. All it gave me was an urge to bathe.

Just another example of high IQ productive “native Americans.” //

85 jaunte  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:32:48pm

re: #80 Gus

Stephen Riggs:
You have no clue about history, the Hitler was a leftie is just plain contrary to facts.

EpicMale:
Actually, it is YOU that hasn’t a historical clue. NAZI=National Socialist (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei=German National Socialist Workers Party)! Get it? You better read more and speak less. Sheesh….

Sheesh!

86 jaunte  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:33:24pm

It’s right there in the name! Look no farther! Sheesh!

87 DisturbedEma  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:34:17pm

re: #78 EPR-radar

YUP

88 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:34:25pm

re: #85 jaunte

How cute. Internet self-beclowner and the parsing of the official name of the Nazi party, take 11ty million.

89 Gus  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:34:36pm

re: #85 jaunte

Sheesh!

Yeah, that old leftie Hitler. He was really big on gay marriage, cultural diversity, and pacifism. //

90 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:34:39pm

re: #75 bratwurst

It has been years ago when I watched Rush on ESPN spout his raciest crap and got fired. I haven’t listened to him since. I don’t give a shit about what he has to say about anything and vowed to never pay him a second of my time forever..
When he tried to become a co-owner of the St. Louis Rams and the NFL rejected his ass.. I couldn’t have been so proud of the NFL as that day.
I understand he has a radio show..Sorry to be so crude here, But I couldn’t give a shit about him. America will be a much better Country when they reject him and toss him and his buddies into the trash bin of history.

91 DisturbedEma  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:34:58pm

re: #83 ProTARDISLiberal

shudder ick and wtf???? just gross and wrong…

92 DisturbedEma  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:35:28pm

re: #89 Gus

loved him some socialism too /////

93 jaunte  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:35:37pm

re: #89 Gus

Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact? Checkmate!

94 bratwurst  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:35:38pm

re: #86 jaunte

It’s right there in the name! Look no farther! Sheesh!

What do you mean the Holy Roman Empire was neither holy nor Roman? IT’S RIGHT THERE IN THE NAME!

95 Gus  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:36:28pm

re: #92 DisturbedEma

loved him some socialism too /////

If Hitler had a bumper sticker it would be one of those COEXIST bumper sticker. That old lib’. //

96 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:36:33pm

Somehow fitting.
97 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:36:55pm

re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist

Haven’t we known that for quite some time? I mean, I’ve heard that Hitler was gay approximately a million times, but I’m pretty sure I’ve also heard of this bit of notation before. Not recently, even. Why is this a bombshell of any sort?

Hm. A proposal:

Fringe-belief sites are really more about social rituals confirming tribal beliefs and thus tribal identities. Thus the “news” is less about facts or new information than the recapitulation of foundational myths. Communicated urgency (Bombshell! This Just In!) in turn isn’t so much about up-to-date-ness as about maintaining a sense of relevance and immediacy.

This specific article, then, is like seasonal festive right: The Annual Alignment of Nazi Culpability, in which the scapegoat is herded into the conceptual village of (ill-defined) Leftism.

98 DisturbedEma  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:37:13pm

re: #80 Gus

the comments are the worst part…which is why I’m glad Charles posts samples of what the “masses” are “saying” even if it breaks my heart…and soul

99 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:37:14pm

re: #94 bratwurst

It’s the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. With a name like that, it has to be good…

100 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:37:21pm

re: #81 bratwurst

From tonight’s Chicagoland police blotter:

Police Say Man Sexually Abused His Peacock

Sheesh.

101 DisturbedEma  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:38:08pm

re: #95 Gus

Oh HELL ya fo sho ;) can’t we all just get along- Rodney King lifted that from him…////////////

102 DisturbedEma  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:38:36pm

re: #99 EPR-radar

Smuckers yes, regime…not so much

103 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:39:31pm

re: #99 EPR-radar

It’s the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. With a name like that, it has to be good…

I love how the National-as-in-Nationalist part is downplayed. Because welfare state for pure Aryans, slave labor to the death for the rest of the world totally fits into the schematic of America politics.

104 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:39:55pm

re: #97 The Ghost of a Flea

This is plausible. From my brief foray into the comment sewer there, the labeling of Hitler as a leftist did have a tribal bonding ritual feel to it.

105 DisturbedEma  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:41:08pm

re: #97 The Ghost of a Flea

My take is a bit more simplistic and mean- the “gays” are winning rights to be full citizens…sooooo let’s link them with the most vile “human” of the 20th century… . .derpitude! grrrrrrr

106 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:41:30pm

re: #104 EPR-radar

This is plausible. From my brief foray into the comment sewer there, the labeling of Hitler as a leftist did have a tribal bonding ritual feel to it.

See, I find the labeling of Hitler to be another exercise in “No True Scotsman.” The idea that a rightist is capable of mass murder means to them that their whole system would then be under question even though there’s a big difference between a mainstream conservative and Hitler just like there’s a big difference between a mainstream liberal and Stalin.

107 jaunte  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:43:05pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

It’s hard for some people to admit that with so much of their political worldview based on slippery slope arguments.

108 Lidane  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:43:26pm
109 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:44:01pm

re: #107 jaunte

It’s hard for some people to admit that with so much of their political worldview based on slippery slope arguments.

Right.

110 Joanne  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:44:23pm

re: #78 EPR-radar

We may end up in a new feudalism in the US because 30% of the voters think they’ll be in the top 1% and vote as if they’ve already made it.

It’s good to have goals and aspirations. It’s better to know what’s going to help you achieve them. Voting for things that’re going to block your own achievements is dumb. Voting like you’ve ready arrived is going to ensure you never achieve.

111 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:45:18pm

re: #103 The Ghost of a Flea

I love how the National-as-in-Nationalist part is downplayed. Because welfare state for pure Aryans, slave labor to the death for the rest of the world totally fits into the schematic of America politics.

Which is where the white nationalist fringe comes in.

I may have mentioned this before, but my mother’s parents emigrated from Germany to the US as they saw Hitler coming into power. After retirement, they became very conservative politically (big fans of Reagan, generally pro-Republican).

But there were exceptions. Pat Buchanan was regarded as talking like the Nazis did.

112 Varek Raith  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:46:20pm

…Why does this make them happy…?

Fuck it, I don’t wanna know…

113 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:46:34pm

re: #105 DisturbedEma

re: #106 HappyWarrior

The other thing I see in the whole “Leftist Nazi” thing is a pre-emptive justification for cruelty that they’re going to inflict anyway.

Whether its insults or initmidation or violence, what’s being set up is a schema in which the gays/liberals/whathaveyou deserve what we’re giving them.

So, not just No True Scotsman, but having your schadenfreude cake and eating it to.

114 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:46:50pm

Oh, FFS. What ELSE can the Breitfarts make up?

115 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:48:11pm

re: #113 The Ghost of a Flea

re: #106 HappyWarrior

The other thing I see in the whole “Leftist Nazi” thing is a pre-emptive justification for cruelty that they’re going to inflict anyway.

Whether its insults or initmidation or violence, what’s being set up is a schema in which the gays/liberals/whathaveyou deserve what we’re giving them.

So, not just No True Scotsman, but having your schadenfreude cake and eating it to.

There is that too, yes. Which as I said completely shows how oblivious they are to the lessons of history.

116 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:49:38pm

re: #111 EPR-radar

Which is where the white nationalist fringe comes in.

I may have mentioned this before, but my mother’s parents emigrated from Germany to the US as they saw Hitler coming into power. After retirement, they became very conservative politically (big fans of Reagan, generally pro-Republican).

But there were exceptions. Pat Buchanan was regarded as talking like the Nazis did.

The amount of Buchanan was able to get in Republican administrations really I think says a lot. It’s why I laugh when I see Reagan admirers try to claim that Obama’s “terrible for Israel” when Ronnie had Pat, who is probably the most overtly Anti-Semitic person I’ve seen in modern politics working for him.

117 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:50:05pm

re: #113 The Ghost of a Flea

re: #106 HappyWarrior

The other thing I see in the whole “Leftist Nazi” thing is a pre-emptive justification for cruelty that they’re going to inflict anyway.

Whether its insults or initmidation or violence, what’s being set up is a schema in which the gays/liberals/whathaveyou deserve what we’re giving them.

So, not just No True Scotsman, but having your schadenfreude cake and eating it to.

A non-trivial fraction of the US right is visibly looking for a suitable target for their hate. They are frustrated that their current targets (e.g., gays, liberals) don’t appear to be attracting much animus from the general population.

118 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:51:13pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

When Pat Buchanan won the NH primary in 1996, I applied for a passport.

119 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:52:31pm

re: #118 EPR-radar

When Pat Buchanan won the NH primary in 1996, I applied for a passport.

I don’t blame you. He’s truly a repulsive individual..

120 Kragar  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:57:17pm

Because if Hitler was gay, then all gays are Nazis.

But if a Nazi was Christian, then he was a lone wolf.

121 JeffFX  Fri, May 10, 2013 7:57:44pm

re: #68 darthstar

Aw…Rest in peace, Lena Horne.

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She died on May 9, 2010

122 Varek Raith  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:02:07pm

Caps won.
Nats won.
:P

123 jaunte  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:02:52pm
124 sattv4u2  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:03:47pm

re: #122 Varek Raith

Caps won.
Nats won.
:P

Red Sox won :)
Yankeees won :(
Bruins lost :(

125 JeffFX  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:04:51pm

re: #118 EPR-radar

When Pat Buchanan won the NH primary in 1996, I applied for a passport.

At the 1992 Republican Convention, Pat and his cheering crowd helped a young JeffFX realize that Republicans are insane.

126 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:06:19pm

OT, but there is a link at DailyKos to some responses from Harvard relating to the Richwine thesis. There are statements from two of the three committee members and from the dean of the Kennedy School.

dailykos.com

127 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:07:34pm

re: #125 JeffFX

At the 1992 Republican Convention, Pat and his cheering crowd helped a young JeffFX realize that Republicans are insane.

Took me longer, sad to say. Fortunately, I’ve never voted in a presidential swing state.

128 Joanne  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:09:00pm

re: #125 JeffFX

At the 1992 Republican Convention, Pat and his cheering crowd helped a young JeffFX realize that Republicans are insane.

Ditto.

129 Lidane  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:13:23pm

re: #125 JeffFX

At the 1992 Republican Convention, Pat and his cheering crowd helped a young JeffFX realize that Republicans are insane.

Same here.

130 OLDHEAD  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:24:02pm

So let’s follow the reasoning. Hitler was gay, so gay people must be OH MY GOD!!!! /

131 palomino  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:30:08pm

re: #130 BLUE POINT 09

So let’s follow the reasoning. Hitler was gay, so gay people must be OH MY GOD!!!! /

Absolutely. Also Hitler had a mustache, a really bad one. So if you see a guy with bad facial hair, OMG as well.

132 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:31:31pm

re: #131 palomino

Absolutely. Also Hitler had a mustache, a really bad one. So if you see a guy with bad facial hair, OMG as well.

Crap this means me my last semester of college when I had the thick beard was Hitler.

133 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:33:19pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

I don’t get the purpose of this. Most historians conclude that he was either heterosexual or asexual. But if he was gay? What would it prove? That gays somehow deserve to be persecuted the way Hitler persecuted people? Sorry Breitbart, Bryan Fischer, it doesn’t work that way and it shouldn’t. We know for a definite fact that Stalin and Mao Zedong were straight. Yet there’s no rush among gay activists to limits the rights of heterosexual men because those two were straight. I don’t think Hitler was gay but you know what even if he was, discrimination against LGBT people would still be wrong. There were definitely straight and Christian Nazis, and do we see the people on Breitbart advocating that they be treated like second class citizens because of that fact, no and nor should we. Fuck this stupid shit.

Just so. Hitler’s evil wasn’t related to his sexuality; His killing rage was born of frustrated ambition and his Jew-hate was the product of his mind fleeing the reality that Germany had in fact been militarily defeated in World War I.

134 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:33:24pm

re: #125 JeffFX

At the 1992 Republican Convention, Pat and his cheering crowd helped a young JeffFX realize that Republicans are insane.

I think five year old me would have agreed too. But I was too busy enjoying kindergarten and later going to Clinton’s inauguration. My Dad’s not the most political person but he liked Clinton and I am sure seeing that Clinton chose to have some neat bands play at his inaugural made going a no brainer. Of cousre, we live near D.C too but I know we didn’t go to Bush I’s inaugural in ‘89 and somehow I doubt my then childless folks were rushing to go to Ronnie’s in 85.

135 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:35:42pm

re: #133 Dark_Falcon

Just so. Hitler’s evil wasn’t related to his sexuality; His killing rage was born of frustrated ambition and his Jew-hate was the product of his mind fleeing the reality that Germany had in fact been militarily defeated in World War I.

That was my point. Hitler’s evil because he killed over ten million innocent people not because he might have been gay or straight. I don’t know why the people at Breitbart don’t get that. The heterosexuality of Stalin and Mao doesn’t make them any less evil.

136 Single-handed sailor  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:37:29pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

That was my point. Hitler’s evil because he killed over ten million innocent people not because he might have been gay or straight. I don’t know why the people at Breitbart don’t get that. The heterosexuality of Stalin and Mao doesn’t make them any less evil.

They were gay too. //

137 darthstar  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:37:38pm

The horse is throwing bullets tonight…good game so far.

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138 darthstar  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:38:45pm

re: #121 JeffFX

She died on May 9, 2010

Did she? Well, she can still rest in peace.

139 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:40:38pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

That was my point. Hitler’s evil because he killed over ten million innocent people not because he might have been gay or straight. I don’t know why the people at Breitbart don’t get that. The heterosexuality of Stalin and Mao doesn’t make them any less evil.

They don’t care about ‘getting it’. The objective of this piece is to fling red meat to the gay=hating portion of their reader base.

It can actually be considered a decline for the site, since Andrew Breitbart himself was not an anti-gay person. But his successors don’t care about what their founder thought, so long as their own power and wallets are enlarged.

140 sattv4u2  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:41:53pm

re: #137 darthstar

The horse is throwing bullets tonight…good game so far.

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Two one-hitters tonight

Red Sox/ John Lester and Cardinals Shelby Miller

141 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:44:14pm

re: #140 sattv4u2

Two one-hitters tonight

Red Sox/ John Lester and Cardinals Shelby Miller

Call the Elias Sports Bureau. Wonder if that’s ever happened before.

142 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:46:19pm

re: #139 Dark_Falcon

They don’t care about ‘getting it’. The objective of this piece is to fling red meat to the gay=hating portion of their reader base.

It can actually be considered a decline for the site, since Andrew Breitbart himself was not an anti-gay person. But his successors don’t care about what their founder thought, so long as their own power and wallets are enlarged.

Nah Breitbart was just an angry dickhead. I see your point but it’s just amusing for me to see how twisted their logic is. As I say, heterosexual, homosexual, transsexual, whatever, the guy’s still one of the mass murderers in history.

143 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:46:50pm

re: #136 Single-handed sailor

They were gay too. //

I should have known!

144 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:50:33pm

re: #142 HappyWarrior

Nah Breitbart was just an angry dickhead. I see your point but it’s just amusing for me to see how twisted their logic is. As I say, heterosexual, homosexual, transsexual, whatever, the guy’s still one of the mass murderers in history.

I agree with you about Breitbart, but it offends me deeply when something is put into service of a bigotry its creator clearly opposed. That sort of action seems to me to be a true instance of perversion, unlike fake gay scandals (which only what bigots believe to be perversion.

145 sattv4u2  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:52:48pm

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons!

146 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:54:51pm

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

I agree with you about Breitbart, but it offends me deeply when something is put into service of a bigotry its creator clearly opposed. That sort of action seems to me to be a true instance of perversion, unlike fake gay scandals (which only what bigots believe to be perversion.

Heh yeah true enough. Just ribbing about Breitbart. They’re eventually going to collapse under the weight of their own rage.

147 CriticalDragon1177  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:55:22pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

The evidence: a notoriously squirrely Army interviewer scribbled “Homosex” in his notes while interviewing one of Hitler’s doctors.

Charles Johnson

Didn’t the Nazis, including Hitler, hate homosexuals? Rhetorical question of course. The Nazis tried to eliminate anyone they suspect of being homosexual, just as they tried to destroy people who they suspected of having “Jewish blood.” Yet that is supposed to prove that Hitler was gay, and that the Nazis didn’t have a problem with homosexuality? Is that it?

148 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 8:58:06pm

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

I agree with you about Breitbart, but it offends me deeply when something is put into service of a bigotry its creator clearly opposed. That sort of action seems to me to be a true instance of perversion, unlike fake gay scandals (which only what bigots believe to be perversion.

I see on Wikipedia that Breitbart was on the advisory board of GOProud. Even so, I find it difficult to believe that any movement conservative rock star can really be all that opposed to anti-gay bigotry. Is there any record of Breitbart taking meaningful action on this front?

149 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:02:11pm

re: #148 EPR-radar

I see on Wikipedia that Breitbart was on the advisory board of GOProud. Even so, I find it difficult to believe that any movement conservative rock star can really be all that opposed to anti-gay bigotry. Is there any record of Breitbart taking meaningful action on this front?

I confess that I do not know. I don’t seek to depict Andrew Breitbart as anything other than the dick he was, but I feel his successors have proven even worse than he was.

150 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:02:52pm

re: #148 EPR-radar

I see on Wikipedia that Breitbart was on the advisory board of GOProud. Even so, I find it difficult to believe that any movement conservative rock star can really be all that opposed to anti-gay bigotry. Is there any record of Breitbart taking meaningful action on this front?

Isn’t Coulter on their board too? I can’t speak for Breitbart but we see Coulter say homophobic things all the time. Her calling Edwards a “faggot” is a good example of that. Cynic in me wonders if people like her and Breitbart just do that to be like “Hey, we’re not total bigots.” But who knows, I’ve never seen Coulter actively call out the party line on gays.

151 Mich-again  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:06:31pm

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

I confess that I do not know. I don’t seek to depict Andrew Breitbart as anything other than the dick he was, but I feel his successors have proven even worse than he was.

His successors have sullied his name because they can.

152 Mich-again  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:08:07pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

The evidence: a notoriously squirrely Army interviewer scribbled “Homosex” in his notes while interviewing one of Hitler’s doctors.

Ricky and Lucy also slept in separate beds. Just sayin..

153 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:08:27pm

re: #151 Mich-again

His successors have sullied his name because they can.

IMO, sullying Breitbart’s name is close to being a logical impossibility.

154 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:11:15pm

re: #153 EPR-radar

IMO, sullying Breitbart’s name is close to being a logical impossibility.

True, but those assholes pulled it off somehow.

155 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:12:20pm

re: #153 EPR-radar

IMO, sullying Breitbart’s name is close to being a logical impossibility.

True which is why I think they’re merely doing similar stuff to what he would have done had he not died. Lest we forget that Breitbart had no problem engaging in presenting a false video that ruined Shirley Sherrod’s reputation. This wasn’t merely someone that was someone that was disagreed with, this was someone who relished in ruining lives simply because he hated the left. If there was a left wing version of him, the right would have been crying for his arrest and punishment.

156 Mich-again  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:15:30pm

re: #154 Dark_Falcon

True, but those assholes pulled it off somehow.

That’s my point. As bad as Andrew was, his successors have taken it to a whole new depth. Why not, it’s not their name on the door..

157 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:16:52pm

re: #156 Mich-again

That’s my point. As bad as Andrew was, his successors have taken it to a whole new depth. Why not, it’s not their name on the door..

It’s like that South Park episode with James Cameron. You think they can’t sink deeper and they do. Oh they do.

158 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:17:17pm

re: #154 Dark_Falcon

True, but those assholes pulled it off somehow.

We’re both speculating here, but I find it perfectly believable that Breitbart would have run with this stupid Hitler was gay article on a sufficiently slow news day for right wing red meat.

The ‘Nazis were leftists’ meme needs to be repeated frequently because it is so stupid.

159 Flavia  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:22:08pm

One good note: one of the contributors on that site completely demolished the entire article with (gasp!) evidence:

“(Lot 181 at auctions[dot]alexautographs[dot]com).

It says absolutely nothing about female hormone injections or about Hitler being homosexual or having any homosexual feelings. On the contrary, it indicates that Hitler received injections in order to boost his *male* hormones and that his physician confirmed that Hitler did have sexual relations with Eva Braun.

So the records in question say absolutely nothing about Hitler either having sex with men or wanting to have sex with men and they confirm that he did have sexual relations with the woman that he ultimately married.

How sex with a woman and no sex with men “shows that Hitler was gay” is beyond me. If this is evidence of being gay, then every heterosexual man in the world is gay.”

& the very next comment was one thanking this poster! (WOW!)

160 Mattand  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:23:32pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Isn’t Coulter on their board too? I can’t speak for Breitbart but we see Coulter say homophobic things all the time. Her calling Edwards a “faggot” is a good example of that. Cynic in me wonders if people like her and Breitbart just do that to be like “Hey, we’re not total bigots.” But who knows, I’ve never seen Coulter actively call out the party line on gays.

IIRC, GOProud or the Log Cabin Delusionals invited her to speak at a college somewhere, and she went full on anti-gay marriage.

I’d look up the details, but I’ve already spent far too much time thinking about ol’ Ann.

161 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:25:27pm

re: #160 Mattand

IIRC, GOProud or the Log Cabin Delusionals invited her to speak at a college somewhere, and she went full on anti-gay marriage.

I’d look up the details, but I’ve already spent far too much time thinking about ol’ Ann.

No need to look it up. I wouldn’t want to ruin your Friday night. Not surprised at all if that’s true. I’ve seen nothing about Ann that suggests that she’s open to the idea of homosexuals having equality under the law.

162 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:26:13pm

re: #160 Mattand

IIRC, GOProud or the Log Cabin Delusionals invited her to speak at a college somewhere, and she went full on anti-gay marriage.

I’d look up the details, but I’ve already spent far too much time thinking about ol’ Ann.

The deal for GOProud and the Log Cabin fools is that they get treated like trash in exchange for tax policies they favor. Only works if you’re rich enough that being treated like trash is an inconvenience that can be bought off.

163 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:28:07pm

re: #158 EPR-radar

We’re both speculating here, but I find it perfectly believable that Breitbart would have run with this stupid Hitler was gay article on a sufficiently slow news day for right wing red meat.

The ‘Nazis were leftists’ meme needs to be repeated frequently because it is so stupid.

The thing is its not self-evidently stupid, so sometimes people buy into it without looking as deeply at the argument as they should. This is helped by the fact that most Americans are abysmally ignorant of WWII history, though I believed in this idea for a time and I knew (and still know) far more about the topic.

164 Mattand  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:30:07pm

re: #162 EPR-radar

The deal for GOProud and the Log Cabin fools is that they get treated like trash in exchange for tax policies they favor. Only works if you’re rich enough that being treated like trash is an inconvenience that can be bought off.

This is the first explanation I’ve seen as to why a gay person would even consider joining the GOP that almost makes sense.

I still say being a gay Republican these days is like being a black Klansman.

165 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:32:40pm

re: #97 The Ghost of a Flea

Hm. A proposal:

Fringe-belief sites are really more about social rituals confirming tribal beliefs and thus tribal identities. Thus the “news” is less about facts or new information than the recapitulation of foundational myths. Communicated urgency (Bombshell! This Just In!) in turn isn’t so much about up-to-date-ness as about maintaining a sense of relevance and immediacy.

This specific article, then, is like seasonal festive right: The Annual Alignment of Nazi Culpability, in which the scapegoat is herded into the conceptual village of (ill-defined) Leftism.

Yeah, 99.99% of what gets said on right wing sites, especially in the comment section is absolute idiots standing up to publicly repeat the current hate litany as not merely as emphatically as possible but MORE emphatically than anyone sane could state it.

It’s a disgusting ritual, and I point it out to right wingers whenever I can… They refuse to take any notice, then stand up to do it themselves.

Couldn’t be more disgusting.

166 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:33:44pm

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

The thing is its not self-evidently stupid, so sometimes people buy into it without looking as deeply at the argument as they should. This is helped by the fact that most Americans are abysmally ignorant of WWII history, though I believed in this idea for a time and I knew (and still know) far more about the topic.

Shit you can look at the famous First They Came For poem and realize that the Nazis were no friends of the political left. Some of this is just common sense. How can and I ask you this since you’re a conservative and I know you don’t believe this but how can people on the right criticize the left for supporting multiculturalism and cultural diversity and at the same time say we’re Nazis? I mean that just strikes me as just calling the Nazis leftists because they want arguably the most evil and depised regime in American history to be leftists because they can’t acknowledge that the political right is capable of evil too. And to be fair, I have seen a small part of the left try to get around the fact that Stalin and Mao were the worst aspects of far left.

167 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:33:49pm

Gays are winning the right to marry, so it’s important for the hate cultists to stand up and say “gay = Hitler”

168 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:34:42pm

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

The thing is its not self-evidently stupid, so sometimes people buy into it without looking as deeply at the argument as they should. This is helped by the fact that most Americans are abysmally ignorant of WWII history, though I believed in this idea for a time and I knew (and still know) far more about the topic.

I don’t mean to beat up on you, but it really is self-evidently stupid. Niemoller:

First they came for the communists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

The watered down version apparently more commonly quoted in the US omits the communists and adds Jews, but it is still crystal clear.

169 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:40:10pm

re: #168 EPR-radar

If you think of that passage often. I don’t. I’m not the kind who’d speak up anyways, preferring to keep my head down and try make myself into someone who wouldn’t draw “their” ire.

170 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:40:57pm

re: #168 EPR-radar

I don’t mean to beat up on you, but it really is self-evidently stupid. Niemoller:

The watered down version apparently more commonly quoted in the US omits the communists and adds Jews, but it is still crystal clear.

Heh beat you to it. I think what many American conservatives choose to ignore and or of ignorant of is they seem to view all anti-capitalism as being Marxist or Marxist inspired or leftist in general even though European aristocrats didn’t like capitalism because they didn’t like upward mobility. One reason why I as an American liberal am glad to defend the virtues of capitalism is that it does allow for that. It’s not a perfect system of course but compared to what it replaced, it was and is a better system. To me in the end, the best economy is a mixed one of socialism and capitalism much like many American liberals want now. It may sound simple and hollow but to me it’s just this simple. Sometimes the government does it better. Sometimes free enterprise does it better. It’s on how much and what you think it does it better in that IMO makes you a conservative or a liberal. I trust the government being involved in stuff like transportation, education, etc but I’m less wary of the government in regulating people’s personal behaviors. A conservative may disagree.

171 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:42:47pm

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

If you think of that passage often. I don’t. I’m not the kind who’d speak up anyways, preferring to keep my head down and try make myself into someone who wouldn’t draw “their” ire.

The poem is simply a distillation of the larger picture. Nobody can look at the history of Hitler’s rise to power and not conclude that the Nazi movement was right wing, unless very thick ideological blinders are in place.

172 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:43:17pm

How is it this evening?

173 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:45:03pm

re: #154 Dark_Falcon

True, but those assholes pulled it off somehow.

I disagree.

Andrew Breitbart was a disgusting racist, slandering, political whore.

He knew how to distract attention from his racism by throwing just the right sort of righteous tantrums to distract attention whenever the pressure was on.

But it’s not even slightly a coincidence that the audience he attracted and help he hired are all 100% bigots who can’t hide their nature.

The fact that they’re not as good at lying means that he finally, in death, gets exposed for what he obviously always was.

174 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:45:23pm

re: #171 EPR-radar

The poem is simply a distillation of the larger picture. Nobody can look at the history of Hitler’s rise to power and not conclude that the Nazi movement was right wing, unless very thick ideological blinders are in place.

Right, that poem illustrates that the Nazis targeted the left early and let’s not forget that even though not all or even most Jews are Communists that the Nazis and many other right wing regimes equated Jews with Bolshevism, Marxism, and general Communism. Hell even here in the US, there was a strain of that during the Red Scare. It thankfully never got to be how it was in Germany and in other places but it was there. And yes, I realize that they were equated with capitalism too as they are to this day.

175 bratwurst  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:46:09pm

If you were wondering whether Glenn Greenwald could get through his entire appearance on Real Time with Bill Maher tonight without referencing his disdain for Israel, the answer is no. One has to wonder if there is a single hour of any given day where he is not thinking about his feelings on this topic.

176 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:47:36pm

re: #172 FemNaziBitch

How is it this evening?

Quite gay, tonight!
*waves*

177 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:47:38pm

re: #172 FemNaziBitch

How is it this evening?

It is well. I got in the second half of a two-seat sale today. I was able to make some good contacts this week as well, so the month has the potential to be a very good one.

178 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:49:34pm

re: #172 FemNaziBitch

How is it this evening?

Hitler’s gay but other than that life is good.

179 stabby  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:49:54pm

re: #175 bratwurst

You’re reminding me that when I was a kid, whenever you heard a certain sort of southern accent on the radio, you knew that the person, given enough time, would ALWAYS say something about the civil war or how blacks didn’t have it so bad…
Similarly, if you heard the very most upper class, aristocratic, posh British voice, then eventually, out would come the “more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger” bullshit about Israel. The British upper class can’t forgive Israel for existing.

180 EPR-radar  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:50:07pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

Heh beat you to it. I think what many American conservatives choose to ignore and or of ignorant of is they seem to view all anti-capitalism as being Marxist or Marxist inspired or leftist in general even though European aristocrats didn’t like capitalism because they didn’t like upward mobility. One reason why I as an American liberal am glad to defend the virtues of capitalism is that it does allow for that. It’s not a perfect system of course but compared to what it replaced, it was and is a better system. To me in the end, the best economy is a mixed one of socialism and capitalism much like many American liberals want now. It may sound simple and hollow but to me it’s just this simple. Sometimes the government does it better. Sometimes free enterprise does it better. It’s on how much and what you think it does it better in that IMO makes you a conservative or a liberal. I trust the government being involved in stuff like transportation, education, etc but I’m less wary of the government in regulating people’s personal behaviors. A conservative may disagree.

But the Nazis weren’t even anti-capitalist! They made some populist noises from time to time, but that was all BS.

I think the up-thread explanations are the real ones. Nazi = evil is embedded into the culture, so gay = Nazi is a way to get to gay = evil for tiny bigoted minds. And of course left = evil, so Nazi = left must follow.

It is reasoning that would be a disgrace to a five year old.

181 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:50:41pm

Had a wonderful evening in the City with my girlfriend. We attended a book talk. Author, Eve Ensler, is peddling her new book, In the Body of the World. I knew Eve was a good performer, but I had no idea she was so funny. I expected to enjoy the talk (many authors are sooooo dry) but I LOL’d a lot. She was as funny as PJ O’Rourke, although in a much more personal way. So, I highly recommnend the book for all genders. You’ll laugh thru any parts that make you uncomfortable.

Then we stopped for appetizers at a Mediterranean Restaurant before the long drive home to Near Iowa.

182 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:51:51pm

re: #179 stabby

You’re reminding me that when I was a kid, whenever you heard a certain sort of southern accent on the radio, you knew that the person, given enough time, would ALWAYS say something about the civil war or how blacks didn’t have it so bad…
Similarly, if you heard the very most upper class, aristocratic, posh British voice, then eventually, out would come the “more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger” bullshit about Israel. The British upper class can’t forgive Israel for existing.

“more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger” = “passive-aggressive” in my opinion, and Greenwald’s attitude towards Israel is centered on a serious case of DARVO.

183 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:52:25pm

re: #180 EPR-radar

But the Nazis weren’t even anti-capitalist! They made some populist noises from time to time, but that was all BS.

I think the up-thread explanations are the real ones. Nazi = evil is embedded into the culture, so gay = Nazi is a way to get to gay = evil for tiny bigoted minds. And of course left = evil, so Nazi = left must follow.

It is reasoning that would be a disgrace to a five year old.

Yep, Nazi is up there with Liberatarian, Fascist, Socialist and Communist. Words misused to the point of meaninglessness.

184 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:53:14pm

re: #176 Dancing along the light of day

re: #182 Dark_Falcon

re: #178 HappyWarrior

I’m more content and a bit tired than gay, but hey, as long as we are all happy!

185 HappyWarrior  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:54:00pm

re: #180 EPR-radar

But the Nazis weren’t even anti-capitalist! They made some populist noises from time to time, but that was all BS.

I think the up-thread explanations are the real ones. Nazi = evil is embedded into the culture, so gay = Nazi is a way to get to gay = evil for tiny bigoted minds. And of course left = evil, so Nazi = left must follow.

It is reasoning that would be a disgrace to a five year old.

Oh I know and agree with everything you’ve said here but the people we’re talking about hear the socialist part of National Socialist and assume the Nazis were anti-capitalist. I think it is what you’re pointing out here that if Nazis are evil, as is the left, and they must be the same. It’s the same mentality I guess that leads them to think Obama’s a closet Muslim all the while they hammer him for being too secular.Gingrich cynically did this when he “warned” about an alliance of secularists and Muslims working together. I can tell you this much as an agnostic, I wouldn’t be any happier under Sharia than I would Christian Law. You can take my beer and pork from my stone cold hands!

186 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:57:01pm

Did I tell you???

I GET to volunteer tomorrow at the Rover Rescue Pet Show!!! I get to hold a dog and talk about him/her to prospective adoptee families. My friend who is a member of Rover Rescue has thanked me about a million times for agreeing to volunteer and I’m like “I’d pay to do this.”

They have puppies too! as well as raffles and a pet show and stuff. I’m mostly excited about the puppies.

187 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:57:44pm

re: #184 FemNaziBitch

re: #182 Dark_Falcon

re: #178 HappyWarrior

I’m more content and a bit tired than gay, but hey, as long as we are all happy!

Indeed, my lady:

188 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 9:58:41pm

re: #187 Dark_Falcon

I love P!NK!

189 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:05:04pm

re: #186 FemNaziBitch

I got to play with & hold a 6 week old Australian Shepard puppy today :)

190 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:05:17pm

On the way to our car this evening a kid (probably 23) started talking to us trying to sell us his CD’s. He was so cute, I gave him $5 and got the CD. He was soooo cute:

Since it is the Friday Night Music Thread.

191 engineer cat  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:07:08pm

o.t.

i’m trying to think of the idiomatic expression you’d use to describe a place where everybody is working too hard, too fast, and with too much anxiety

192 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:07:10pm

re: #189 Dancing along the light of day

I got to play with & hold a 6 week old Australian Shepard puppy today :)

was it better than talk therapy?

193 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:09:33pm

re: #191 engineer cat

o.t.

i’m trying to think of the idiomatic expression you’d use to describe a place where everybody is working too hard, too fast, and with too much anxiety

ah, I learned that word tonite. Eve said Joe Ehrmann calls it “living a transactional life” as opposed to a trans… I forget. Transformational?

It’s the difference between a coach that trains his players to win and the coach that trains his players to play the game to the best of their ability as individuals and as a team.

194 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:11:55pm

re: #191 engineer cat

o.t.

i’m trying to think of the idiomatic expression you’d use to describe a place where everybody is working too hard, too fast, and with too much anxiety

Or you could just say “America”

195 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:13:49pm

re: #192 FemNaziBitch

Better than an ice cream sandwich, even! Puppy breath!

196 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:14:39pm

re: #195 Dancing along the light of day

Better than an ice cream sandwich, even! Puppy breath!

ooooooooh! (in a high pitched jr high girl squeal)

197 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:35:01pm

I killed the thread!

198 engineer cat  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:39:21pm

re: #197 FemNaziBitch

I killed the thread!

e’s not dead - e’s just pinin’ for the fjords

199 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:41:44pm

re: #198 engineer cat

e’s not dead - e’s just pinin’ for the fjords

where is Slartibartfast when you need him?

200 freetoken  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:43:41pm
201 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:47:18pm

re: #200 freetoken

[Embedded content]

ummm0—Bert Reynolds and … .I can’t remember.

202 Mattand  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:51:56pm

Just had two blackouts within 5 minutes. We didn’t have that happen when Sandy rolled through in October.

203 FemNaziBitch  Fri, May 10, 2013 10:52:26pm

nytol

204 AlexRogan  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:14:06pm

Been busy all day with a bunch of things, one of which was having to replace an almost 40-year-old Amana chest freezer (that my grandma bought before I was born and that we’ve had here at our house for almost twenty years) that’s on its last legs to keep from losing about $300 worth of frozen food; I got a Haier 5-cubic-foot freezer that was on sale at HH Gregg for $170 and wound up getting another 10% knocked off, so that’s a small victory for today.

I’d been looking at replacing the Amana for a while, seeing as it’d cost just as much for a tech to come out, look at it, and throw some R-12 in it (at a bare minimum), but my hand got forced on it when pretty much the top half inside was staying dangerously warm, so I went ahead and got the new freezer as an early Mother’s Day present for my mom. She likes it and it gets pretty damned cold; the fit, finish, and operation of this Haier unit is pretty decent and I couldn’t beat the price.

Anyways, just found this trailer for the Captain Phillips movie coming out in October about the Maersk Alabama hijacking; it looks pretty damn good with Tom Hanks in the title role:

205 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:39:42pm

re: #20 bratwurst

an estimated 100,000 men were arrested in Germany as homosexuals between 1933 and 1945.

Everybody knows that represed gays are the biggest homophobes.

See, the Breitbart logic is ironclad, just like a Tiger tank with its, long, glistening 88mm gun barrel clad in kill rings…

/

206 Gus  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:41:12pm
207 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 10, 2013 11:47:49pm

re: #168 EPR-radar

First they came for the thirty round magazines,
and I didn’t speak out because I only used ten round clips.

Then they came for the confederate revisionists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a confederate revisionist.

Then they came for the creationists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a creationist

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me because they were all too busy appearing on Fox news, whining and shouting about how oppressed they were.

208 Kragar  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:17:24am

re: #205 Sol Berdinowitz

Everybody knows that represed gays are the biggest homophobes.

See, the Breitbart logic is ironclad, just like a Tiger tank with its, long, glistening 88mm gun barrel clad in kill rings…

/

Bryan Fischer would have strapped on jackboots in a heart beat.

209 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:29:59am

re: #204 AlexRogan

Haier is a Chinese brand. Their apartment-size small-size washers are pretty good. I had one in the States and now have one in China.

[Fixed to correct possible misinterpretation.]

210 Ace-o-aces  Sat, May 11, 2013 12:43:06am

Also, he only had one ball.

211 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 1:05:17am

re: #210 Ace-o-aces

Also, he only had one ball.

Göring had two, but verry small…
(Himmler was somewhat similar)

212 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 1:11:41am

re: #209 wheat-dogghazi

Haier is a Chinese brand. Their apartment-size small-size washers are pretty good. I had one in the States and now have one in China.

[Fixed to correct possible misinterpretation.]

Unless you are referring to the size of a typical Chinese apartment…

213 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, May 11, 2013 1:48:04am

re: #212 Sol Berdinowitz

Unless you are referring to the size of a typical Chinese apartment…

Some people sleep on top of their washing machines …

214 Sophist is the VillageGreen Preservation Society  Sat, May 11, 2013 2:20:59am

Douchebaggery, ho!:

Mark Steyn, at NRO’s International House of Jaw-dropping Metaphors: “Victoria Nuland and the State Department vacuumed any real “intelligence” out of the CIA talking-points like Dr Kermit Gosnell suctioning the brains out of Philadelphia babies.”

Mark Steyn is a classless hack. Discuss.

215 William of Orange  Sat, May 11, 2013 3:12:16am

Sure… And that’s why he married Eva Braun. Figures…

216 William of Orange  Sat, May 11, 2013 3:14:19am
217 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 3:30:33am

re: #215 William of Orange

Sure… And that’s why he married Eva Braun. Figures…

The lead chracters in Brokeback Mountain were both married, too.

There. Ran rings around your logic.

/

218 Dr Lizardo  Sat, May 11, 2013 3:40:33am

What we know of Der Führer’s sexuality is minimal at best.

He did carry on an affair with his niece, Geli Raubal, until she committed suicide; a death that by all contemporary accounts affected Hitler profoundly. There were also rumors that he carried on affairs with quite a few women before he finally settled down with Eva Braun. Hitler always portrayed himself as ‘married to Germany’, at least as far as his public image went.

There are rumors that he may have had some rather kinky proclivities such as coprophilia and urolagnia - indeed, his fondness for that is rumored to be one of the reasons behind Ms. Raubal’s suicide, along with that fact that Hitler was apparently singularly possessive of her. Bernard Stempfel, a Hieronymite priest, was said to have been in possession of a letter from Hitler to Ms. Raubal in which Hitler wrote of his enjoyment of those activities. However, these are simply rumors, and that’s all. Stempfel was, if I recall correctly, killed during the Night of the Long Knives.

The truth of Hitler’s sexuality will never be fully known, but I’m rather inclined to the view that he was heterosexual, albeit, a rather kinky heterosexual. And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with being kinky, as long as it’s consensual.

219 William of Orange  Sat, May 11, 2013 3:42:59am

re: #217 Sol Berdinowitz

The lead chracters in Brokeback Mountain were both married, too.

There. Ran rings around your logic.

/

Fiction and reality…

Besides that, what’s the point? The thing we know most about Hitler was that he’s was a nasty bastard who plunged Europe in 12 years of darkness.

220 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 4:04:59am

re: #218 Dr Lizardo

The truth about Hitler’s sexuality is entirely incidental: it is simply propaganda to support the assertion that gay marriage will lead to fascism.

221 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 4:06:06am

re: #219 William of Orange

Fiction and reality…

Besides that, what’s the point? The thing we know most about Hitler was that he’s was a nasty bastard who plunged Europe in 12 years of darkness.

Brokeback Mountain was about propagating the Gay Agenda. And gays often marry to hide their true agenda from unsuspecting heteros.

/

222 Dr Lizardo  Sat, May 11, 2013 4:10:52am

re: #220 Sol Berdinowitz

The truth about Hitler’s sexuality is entirely incidental: it is simply propaganda to support the assertion that gay marriage will lead to fascism.

That’s very true; indeed, the RW has been making such claims for several years now. The most common theme seems to be that the NSDAP was a militant gay political party.

Which is laughable on so many levels, it approaches the bizarre.

223 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 4:23:58am

re: #222 Dr Lizardo

That’s very true; indeed, the RW has been making such claims for several years now. The most common theme seems to be that the NSDAP was a militant gay political party.

Which is laughable on so many levels, it approaches the bizarre.

And they were “Socialists”.

224 steve_davis  Sat, May 11, 2013 4:28:27am

re: #18 darthstar

Actually, he was writing “home at six” because he promised his wife he wouldn’t be late for dinner, but because doctors have notoriously bad penmanship, it just looked like “homosex”…case closed.

OMG! Hitler was Homeatsixual!!!

225 Dr Lizardo  Sat, May 11, 2013 4:35:15am

re: #223 Sol Berdinowitz

And they were “Socialists”.

The other part of their absurd equation. They completely ignore the fact that Hitler himself said - more than once - that he’d wished he’d dropped the ‘Socialist’ part of NSDAP. Not to mention that Hitler said on scores of occasions how opposed he was to Socialism in general.

226 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 4:44:40am

re: #225 Dr Lizardo

The other part of their absurd equation. They completely ignore the fact that Hitler himself said - more than once - that he’d wished he’d dropped the ‘Socialist’ part of NSDAP. Not to mention that Hitler said on scores of occasions how opposed he was to Socialism in general.

It has nothing to do with anything but Godwinism and discrediting one’s opponents in any way possible. I do not listen to such arguments from any end of the political spectrum.

And by the way, the MBF is a gay fascist…


/

227 Dr Lizardo  Sat, May 11, 2013 4:47:31am

re: #226 Sol Berdinowitz

It has nothing to do with anything but Godwinism and discrediting one’s opponents in any way possible. I do not listen to such arguments from any end of the political spectrum.

And by the way, the MBF is a gay fascist…

/

I was always under the impression that the MBF is a gay atheist IslamoCommieNazi liberal fascist. Heh - I learn something new every day.

/

228 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 4:52:42am

re: #227 Dr Lizardo

I was always under the impression that the MBF is a gay atheist IslamoCommieNazi liberal fascist. Heh - I learn something new every day.

/

who hates guns, unless they are in the hands of criminals and terrorists…

229 Dr Lizardo  Sat, May 11, 2013 4:56:43am

re: #228 Sol Berdinowitz

who hates guns, unless they are in the hands of criminals and terrorists…

…..and the MBF is clearly the driving force behind the plan to establish a Muslim Brotherhood gay atheist fascist IslamoCommieNazi Agenda 21 Caliphate in the USA, the evidence of which was covered up in

BENGHAZI!!1!11ty!

It’s all becoming so clear now…….

/

230 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 5:05:03am

re: #229 Dr Lizardo

…..and the MBF is clearly the driving force behind the plan to establish a Muslim Brotherhood gay atheist fascist IslamoCommieNazi Agenda 21 Caliphate in the USA, the evidence of which was covered up in

It’s all becoming so clear now…….

/

The fact that it was not clear to you from the outset makes you somehow suspect…

231 Dr Lizardo  Sat, May 11, 2013 5:14:56am

re: #230 Sol Berdinowitz

The fact that it was not clear to you from the outset makes you somehow suspect…

It’s likely because I don’t listen to enough Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity nor read enough Pam Gellar, Robert Spencer, or Bryan Fischer.

I suppose a little homework with those folks should help me see the light.

//

232 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 5:38:02am

re: #205 Sol Berdinowitz

Everybody knows that represed gays are the biggest homophobes.

See, the Breitbart logic is ironclad, just like a Tiger tank with its, long, glistening 88mm gun barrel clad in kill rings…

/

Actually, the Germans painted the barrel of the Tiger’s gun so that it would not glisten, as glistening tended to invite attention of Allied TDs and tanks armed with 17-pounder, and 90mm guns. The similar Soviet guns were the 100mm and 122mm.

/Straight man

233 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 11, 2013 5:40:42am

We’ve had some sort of blast in Reyhanli, Turkey.

Also, bombing of 2 Police Stations in Benghazi overnight.

234 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 5:51:46am

re: #233 ProTARDISLiberal

We’ve had some sort of blast in Reyhanli, Turkey.

Also, bombing of 2 Police Stations in Benghazi overnight.

BENGHAZI!!1!11ty!

235 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 6:18:02am

re: #232 Dark_Falcon

Actually, the Germans painted the barrel of the Tiger’s gun so that it would not glisten, as glistening tended to invite attention of Allied TDs and tanks armed with 17-pounder, and 90mm guns. The similar Soviet guns were the 100mm and 122mm.

/Straight man

They did it to make it look more phallic, they were all homosexuals.

/

236 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 6:31:07am

re: #235 Sol Berdinowitz

They did it to make it look more phallic, they were all homosexuals.

/

Gays don’t use camo patterns unless they involve lavender. I saw that on The Blaze, so it must be true!

///

237 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 6:42:54am

re: #236 Dark_Falcon

flipacars.com

238 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:01:08am

re: #237 Sol Berdinowitz

flipacars.com

But no body ever accuses the SAS of being gay. The haters simply use the accusation of gayness for denigration.

239 Romantic Heretic  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:11:40am

re: #7 Kragar

In a actually some what related note, we were going thru some boxes in the basement this morning and found a bunch of pictures my dad’s uncle took during World War 2. Turns out he had liberated one of the concentration camps and we had some of those pictures sitting in the basement gathering dust. My mom had me bring them up and she’s going thru all that stuff now.

Get them on the net! Please. We can’t lose history!

240 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:14:13am

re: #239 Romantic Heretic

Get them on the net! Please. We can’t lose history!

Concur. Or at least have them digitized and backed up.

241 Romantic Heretic  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:14:17am

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Frigging Austrians. Always up to something. And man don’t get me started on those with dark hair and blue eyes. Bunch of monsters!

You have to wonder how those who describe themselves as ‘conservative’ can adore Austrian economics and hate Hitler at the same time.

242 Romantic Heretic  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:19:15am

re: #31 Joanne

How many times have you seen KILL ALL LIBURALS!!!? I’ve seen it (the usual places and Twitter, of course) often. And dehumanizing humans truly is a step towards being able to readily kill another human being because they’re not human; they’re traitorous liburals.

I’ve been on the receiving end of ‘conservatives’ way too often to believe that they have any interest in anything other than the power to impose their worldview. I got to be homeless thanks to a ‘conservative’ politician here in Ontario. My career as a writer took a big hit because of the behaviour of a ‘conservative’ I was working with.

243 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:23:10am

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Isn’t Coulter on their board too? I can’t speak for Breitbart but we see Coulter say homophobic things all the time. Her calling Edwards a “faggot” is a good example of that. Cynic in me wonders if people like her and Breitbart just do that to be like “Hey, we’re not total bigots.” But who knows, I’ve never seen Coulter actively call out the party line on gays.

In Coulter’s case, it’s a little weird. She sort of positions herself as the Barbra or Liza of the conservative gay world, this straight woman who fancies herself as an icon for gay men. (My apologies to Streisand and Minelli for this comparison.) She’s actually taken flak from True Believers over her GOProud and similar over her fondness for teh Gheys. At the same time, she’s said horrible stuff, like her crap about how if she had a son and he came out, she’d tell him he was adopted.

My take on Coulter is that she’s like Limbaugh—completely cynical. She lives in communities where being gay and out is unremarkable, and I seriously doubt she is homophobic in her daily life and interactions. She probably has much more contempt for financially struggling conservatives from flyover country than she has for rich liberals, or rich gay people. In real life. But in celebrity life, her schtick is being hateful toward approved targets.

244 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:24:48am

re: #152 Mich-again

Ricky and Lucy also slept in separate beds. Just sayin..

And Ricky, please note, was a Cuban, hence a Commie, hence a Nazi, hence gay. You see how this works?

(“Dale, there are no Cubans.” “Oh yeah? If there are no Cubans, how do you explain Desi Arnaz?” “OK, there are Cubans. But no Cubans are out to get you.”)

245 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:29:52am

re: #244 SanFranciscoZionist

And Ricky, please note, was a Cuban, hence a Commie, hence a Nazi, hence gay. You see how this works?

(“Dale, there are no Cubans.” “Oh yeah? If there are no Cubans, how do you explain Desi Arnaz?” “OK, there are Cubans. But no Cubans are out to get you.”)

No, that doesn’t work, since many people of Cuban origins are Republicans. Going after Cubans in general would be a bridge too far for today’s wingnuts, as they’d have to attack Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz in doing so.

246 darthstar  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:30:42am

Mornin’ gang. Happy Saturday. Think I’ll walk the boys on down to the beach for a bit. I got enough Hitleral stimulation yesterday.

247 darthstar  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:31:30am

re: #245 Dark_Falcon

Cruz is a Canuck.

248 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:32:29am

re: #243 SanFranciscoZionist

Hey, SFZ, it’s good to see your nic here again. I hope things are going acceptably for you and yours?

249 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:33:49am

re: #247 darthstar

Cruz is a Canuck.

His father is of entirely Cuban ethnic origins, however.

250 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:33:57am

re: #221 Sol Berdinowitz

Brokeback Mountain was about propagating the Gay Agenda. And gays often marry to hide their true agenda from unsuspecting heteros.

/

Yes, because as Soviet forces shell the crap out of Berlin, the thing on your mind has GOT to be, “I must marry Eva now, so that my true agenda will be hidden from the unsuspecting heteros. The heteros cannot possibly have grasped my true agenda yet.”

Which reminds me of the Jon Stewart chart on American lobbies. It includes the ‘stated agenda’ and the ‘hidden agenda’. For NAMBLA, under hidden agenda, it just says, “Dude, did you read the stated agenda?”

251 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:36:06am

re: #248 William Barnett-Lewis

Hey, SFZ, it’s good to see your nic here again. I hope things are going acceptably for you and yours?

Pretty good.

252 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:36:23am

I don’t know why, but Jonah Jameson is on my mind.

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253 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:36:57am

re: #252 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

I don’t know why, but Jonah Jameson is on my mind.

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Because you read about the media so much is why.

254 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:38:14am

re: #253 Dark_Falcon

Truly, Jonah Jameson was a prophetic warning about inaccurate and propagandizing media.

255 HappyWarrior  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:38:43am

re: #250 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes, because as Soviet forces shell the crap out of Berlin, the thing on your mind has GOT to be, “I must marry Eva now, so that my true agenda will be hidden from the unsuspecting heteros. The heteros cannot possibly have grasped my true agenda yet.”

Which reminds me of the Jon Stewart chart on American lobbies. It includes the ‘stated agenda’ and the ‘hidden agenda’. For NAMBLA, under hidden agenda, it just says, “Dude, did you read the stated agenda?”

Heh I was thinking about that book last night when we were talking labels for Congo.
Name Inherent lies in name Oppression level
Congo 0 Bloody
Republic of the Congo 1 Sadistic
Democratic Republic of the Congo 2 Inhuman
People’s Democratic Republic of the Congo 3 Genocidal
Shiny, Happy, People’s Republic of the Congo 66 Hide

256 sattv4u2  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:42:42am

re: #251 SanFranciscoZionist

Pretty good.

Welcome Hatchling!!

//

257 Targetpractice  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:46:33am

Somehow, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that I wake up and read that wingnuts are using the IRS story to claim Democrats stole the election. Or at least seem set to argue such.

258 HappyWarrior  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:47:27am

re: #257 Targetpractice

Somehow, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that I wake up and read that wingnuts are using the IRS story to claim Democrats stole the election. Or at least seem set to argue such.

I guess with that, you can at least say it’s something new. Though I would laugh if they claimed ACORN stole this election as well.

259 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:47:33am

re: #257 Targetpractice

Somehow, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that I wake up and read that wingnuts are using the IRS story to claim Democrats stole the election. Or at least seem set to argue such.

It will be offered as reason to impeach and or engage in armed rebellion to TAKE YOAR COUNTRY BACK!!!

260 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:48:02am

re: #257 Targetpractice

Somehow, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that I wake up and read that wingnuts are using the IRS story to claim Democrats stole the election. Or at least seem set to argue such.

Sliming the other side, even if in a dishonest way, is not the same as stuffing a ballot box.

261 Stanghazi  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:50:38am

Some guilty neighbor returned my plant. Wow. My sign worked.

262 Stanghazi  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:51:10am

Good morning!

263 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:52:09am

Oh my aching back.

264 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:04:40am

re: #261 Stanghazi

Some guilty neighbor returned my plant. Wow. My sign worked.

Perhaps your plant wanted to meet new people.

265 Stanghazi  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:08:28am

re: #264 Iwouldprefernotto

Perhaps your plant wanted to meet new people.

He had a wild week of debauchery probably. He deserved it.

266 kirkspencer  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:10:58am

re: #265 Stanghazi

He had a wild week of debauchery probably. He deserved it.

You should probably have it checked out. Who knows what sorts of wild cross-pollination it participated in.

267 Stanghazi  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:11:34am

re: #266 kirkspencer

You should probably have it checked out. Who knows what sorts of wild cross-pollination it participated in.

New buds in 9 months. Ha

268 allegro  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:16:58am

I flipped on the TV this morning to see the day’s weather prediction since I want to go plant and dirt shopping. They had this young woman on to make suggestions for Mother’s Day gifts, with that special day of honor being tomorrow. No flowers or candy for Mom, of course - how boring and passe even if she, yanno, loves getting flowers and candy. Instead, here are the creative ideas she put forth for consideration:

1. Monthly subscription for 15 minute work-out videos. She can even play them on her iPhone! Imagine being able to get in a quick work-out any time and any place!
2. Frying pan with great non-stick coating!
3. Citrus juicer for only $19.99 at WalMart!
4. Anti-wrinkle skin care creams!

Yeah, let’s whip that old broad into shape, slather her wrinkled face with chemicals, and get her back in the kitchen to fix you up some bacon and eggs and fresh-squoze OJ!

I just loves me some misogyny in the morning.

269 Roger S  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:22:34am

Check out this little gem right here:

Pierre Paul PeoplesRepublicOfMd • a day ago

Obama can’t escape the fact that his intelligent side come from his white ancestors. That’s what makes him a megalomaniac.
15 6

Reply

Share >

270 Mattand  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:23:29am

re: #243 SanFranciscoZionist

Funny you should mention this. The subject of Coulter’s homophobia came up last night. To paraphrase myself, I believe ol’ Ann got invited to speak at a college as a guest of GOProud or the Log Cabin Delusionals. She then promptly told the audience that gays should never be allowed to marry, with the subtext being they’re freaks of nature.

Is there any evidence she considers herself a gay icon? Because every public utterance out of her mouth regarding gays involves her shitting all over them as 3rd class citizens and sub-human.

Good to see you back, BTW.

271 Stanghazi  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:25:39am

re: #269 Roger S

Check out this little gem right here:

Pierre Paul PeoplesRepublicOfMd • a day ago

Obama can’t escape the fact that his intelligent side come from his white ancestors. That’s what makes him a megalomaniac.
15 6

Reply

Share >

Ugh

272 HappyWarrior  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:26:10am

re: #269 Roger S

Check out this little gem right here:

Pierre Paul PeoplesRepublicOfMd • a day ago

Obama can’t escape the fact that his intelligent side come from his white ancestors. That’s what makes him a megalomaniac.
15 6

Reply

Share >

Obviously a plant. No true conservative would admit that Obama’s intelligent./

273 Stanghazi  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:28:47am

re: #269 Roger S

Welcome Hatchling!

274 Stanghazi  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:29:35am

WW is on her way to the shop.

275 HappyWarrior  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:30:42am

Of all the things that man has invented, the idea that one man is inferior because of the color of his skin is probably the dumbest. And we invented the double down!

276 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:33:22am

re: #268 allegro

The last thing most Moms/wives want is another kitchen appliance or household gadget. I’m pretty sure they want something that does not remind of their domestic activities.

Let me guess: this was on the local network affiliate station.

277 sattv4u2  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:33:50am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

Of all the things that man has invented, the idea that one man is inferior because of the color of his skin is probably the dumbest. And we invented the double down!

Sadly, as long as there are two people left standing on this ball traveling through space, one (if not both) will always find something about the other that they “fear” or have a bias or prejudice against

278 sattv4u2  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:34:39am

re: #276 wheat-dogghazi

The last thing most Moms/wives want is another kitchen appliance or household gadget

Funny, but thats the 1st (or close to it) things I want!

279 allegro  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:34:39am

re: #276 wheat-dogghazi

The last thing most Moms/wives want is another kitchen appliance or household gadget. I’m pretty sure they want something that does not remind of their domestic activities.

Let me guess: this was on the local network affiliate station.

NBC local.

280 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:36:23am

re: #279 allegro

It sounds like the same kind of witless advice my former local affiliates would offer to clueless families.

281 Stanghazi  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:36:40am

re: #277 sattv4u2

Sadly, as long as there are two people left standing on this ball traveling through space, one (if not both) will always find something about the other that they “fear” or have a bias or prejudice against

My favorite shocking response

m.youtube.com

282 HappyWarrior  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:36:55am

re: #277 sattv4u2

Sadly, as long as there are two people left standing on this ball traveling through space, one (if not both) will always find something about the other that they “fear” or have a bias or prejudice against

No doubt.

283 Stanghazi  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:39:23am

re: #279 allegro

NBC local.

I have a really sad memory of the time me and my brother bought my mom one of those screens you put over a fry pan for m-day or a birthday. What a shitty gift. As seen on TV!!

284 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:39:32am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

Of all the things that man has invented, the idea that one man is inferior because of the color of his skin is probably the dumbest. And we invented the double down!

I believe part of it is hard-wired. Our way of reacting to others was developed while living in small tribes, where outsiders, especially those who looked different, were seen as threats or competitors.

285 allegro  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:43:39am

re: #283 Stanghazi

I have a really sad memory of the time me and my brother bought my mom one of those screens you put over a fry pan for m-day or a birthday. What a shitty gift. As seen on TV!!

If you’re a kid, it’s forgivable. For a TV network, even a blathering Saturday morning local thing, it’s tone-deaf as hell.

But you reminded me of something funny. When my brother and I were little we decided to get up early on Mother’s Day to fix Mom breakfast in bed. We fixed up the eggs and bacon and stuff but Mom was still sleeping. We didn’t want it to get cold so we put her plate in the oven. We turned the oven up high to make sure it would all stay real hot. It was a plastic plate. Comedy ensued.

286 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:44:30am

re: #285 allegro

lol.

287 Stanghazi  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:47:14am

re: #285 allegro

If you’re a kid, it’s forgivable. For a TV network, even a blathering Saturday morning local thing, it’s tone-deaf as hell.

But you reminded me of something funny. When my brother and I were little we decided to get up early on Mother’s Day to fix Mom breakfast in bed. We fixed up the eggs and bacon and stuff but Mom was still sleeping. We didn’t want it to get cold so we put her plate in the oven. We turned the oven up high to make sure it would all stay real hot. It was a plastic plate. Comedy ensued.

Oops!!

288 wrenchwench  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:47:14am

re: #274 Stanghazi

WW is on her way to the shop.

Here I am!

289 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:50:31am

I remember one Mother’s Day we got my mom a dust buster. She initially did not like it. All of us ended up using it and thinking it was the greatest thing around.

290 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:54:43am

re: #288 wrenchwench

Here I am!

Grumpy cat says what all cats think, only they would not wait for the pork to be cured before eating. But that’s just cats being predatory, which is what they are.

Edited. PIMF

291 wrenchwench  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:57:10am

re: #290 Dark_Falcon

Grumpy cat says what all cats think, only they would wait for the pork to be cured before eating. But that’s just cats being predatory, which is what they are.

One of our cats likes ham, the other one likes hamburger.

292 stabby  Sat, May 11, 2013 8:59:54am

I think the mini baby pig with boots was an Onion thing.

That was the weaponized cuteness that Al Qaeda invented to make people oggle emails instead of doing their work, thus destroying capitalism.

293 stabby  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:01:44am
294 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:04:39am

This article comes from the Daily FAIL, but its actually interesting and a reasonable good piece of tech reporting:

‘Wearable robots’ are allowing paralysed patients once unable to move to walk again

Michael Gore, 42, suffered a serious work accident 11 years ago and damaged his spine which left him unable to walk. Yet today he is able to get out of his chair, stand six foot two inches tall and walk across the room.

This is all thanks to a lightweight robot he wears, referred to as ‘electronic legs’ or a ‘powered exoskelton’.

Michael’s model is called Indego, and is among several competing products being used and tested in U.S. rehabilitation hospitals that hold promise not only for people with spinal injuries, but also those recovering from strokes or suffering with multiple sclerosis and cerebral palsy.

The technology is thought to be at least a year away from the market, and at two stone, the Indego is the lightest of the powered exoskeletons.

It snaps together from pieces that fit into a backpack.

The goal is for the user to be able to carry it on a wheelchair, put it together, strap it on and walk independently.

None of the products, including the Indego, are yet approved for personal use, meaning they must be used under the supervision of a physical therapist.

Michael, from North Carolina, demonstrated the device this week at the American Spinal Injury Association meeting in Chicago, and successfully negotiated a noisy, crowded hallway of medical professionals and people with spinal injuries in wheelchairs.

The pictures were taken at the Sheraton on Fairbanks/Columbus Driver, right next to the Chicago River (I used to work across the street in the NBC Tower).

295 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:06:58am

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

Sorry about the extended quote, but I didn’t want to break up the explanation, and wanted to show off my knowledge of Chicago.

296 Stanghazi  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:10:50am

Out for awhile. Gotta get house supplies. I want to get fresh flowers but just realized this is probably not the weekend for deals.

See ya later.

297 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:10:55am

re: #234 Dark_Falcon

At this point, there should be no doubt the Muslim Brotherhood is trying to overthrow the elected, popular government in Libya.

298 sattv4u2  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:11:22am

re: #295 Dark_Falcon

Sorry about the extended quote, but I didn’t want to break up the explanation, and wanted to show off my knowledge of Chicago.

Not exaclty a unique talent!

299 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:12:41am

re: #297 ProTARDISLiberal

At this point, there should be no doubt the Muslim Brotherhood is trying to overthrow the elected, popular government in Libya.

No, there’s no doubt. But they may succeed, because others may not be willing to fight another civil war to stop them.

300 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:16:41am

re: #299 Dark_Falcon

I’m not so sure. The government may be weak, but still has the people’s support. In the past several weeks, there have been a number of protests against the MB that end up turning into “Let’s burn their Local Office!” So the people themselves may stop this through sheer attrition.

Also, don’t forget we already gave a big warning to the militias, in a joint statement with France and the UK. And if Libya asks for help, they will likely get it.

The French First Republic survived outside pressure, if you remember.

301 GeneJockey  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:20:09am

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

‘Wearable robots’ are allowing paralysed patients once unable to move to walk again

Help, Grommit! It’s the Wrong Trousers! And they’ve gone wrong! Gro-o-ommm-i-i-itt!!!!

302 darthstar  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:47:37am

re: #246 darthstar

Mornin’ gang. Happy Saturday. Think I’ll walk the boys on down to the beach for a bit. I got enough Hitleral stimulation yesterday.

And we’re back…holy shit that was a long walk. Fozzie (who’s close to 14 years old) was happily running up to every dog he saw, then got far enough away he couldn’t see us anymore, so he kept trucking along, looking for us in every group he found, further and further down the beach, as I walked, then jogged, and finally did a bit of running, to catch up with him.

When he finally did turn around and see Banjo and I, he ran up as if to say, “Where the hell have you two been? I’ve been looking all over for you.” and lead the way towards home. Got an extra couple of miles in, easily.

303 darthstar  Sat, May 11, 2013 9:48:19am

re: #249 Dark_Falcon

His father is of entirely Cuban ethnic origins, however.

You could also say, “His father is Cuban.”

304 Roger S  Sat, May 11, 2013 7:21:35pm

re: #273 Stanghazi

Thanks, I just remembered I had not introduced myself. I’ve been a reader for a long time and glad to join.


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