Bon Iver: Towers

When the onus is not all your own

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For the love, Iʼd fallen on
in the swampy August dawn
what a mischief you would bring young darling!
when the onus is not all your own
when you’re up for it before you’ve grown

From the faun forever gone
in the towers of your honeycomb
I’d a tore your hair out just to climb back darling
when you’re filling out your only form
can you tell that itʼs just ceremon’
now you’ve added up to what you’re from

Build your tether rain-out from your fragments…
break the sailor’s table on your sacrum…
fuck the fiercest fables, I’m with Hagen

For the love, comes the burning young
from the liver, sweating through your tongue
well, youʼre standing on my sternum don’t you climb down darling
oh the sermons are the first to rest
smoke on Sundays when youʼre drunk and dressed
out the hollows where the swallow nests

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William of Orange Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:26:24pm

Satanists Turned the Founder of the Westboro Baptist Church’s Dead Mom Gay

The Satanic Temple, a burgeoning community of worship devoted to the Dark Lord, has performed a “Pink Mass” over the grave of Westboro Baptist Church founder Fred Phelps Jr.’s mother. The Pink Mass is a Satanic ritual performed after death that turns the deceased’s straight spirit into a homo one—it’s not unlike the Mormon practice of baptizing the dead, only much gayer.

On Sunday the Satanic Temple, which first came into the national spotlight last January when the organization announced its support for Florida Governor Rick Scott, went to the Phelps family graveyard in Mississippi to perform the ritual. (Two Pink Masses were performed, one with a female couple and another with men.) I contacted Lucien Greaves, the Temple’s spokesperson and officiator of the ceremony, to find out what exactly the Pink Mass entials. While he didn’t get into specifics, he told told me via email that “there were, in fact, scriptures recited, candles lit, and a ceremonial proceeding that we may eventually post the details of at our website, westboro-baptist.com. That is, if the Pink Mass generates sufficient interest to the point that other responsible parties, respectful of the graveyard, wish to perform their own.”

That’s the way to get the WBC’s knickers in a twist. ;-)

Via Vice.

goddamnedfrank Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:27:06pm

Jailed gun rights activist Adam Kokesh has vowed to run for president of the United States in 2020 on a platform aimed at abolishing the federal government.

Youtube Video

freetoken Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:27:54pm

Bomb Bomb Bomb ~~Iran~~ Australia:

US fighter jets drop bombs on Great Barrier Reef

Gus Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:30:06pm

re: #3 freetoken

Bomb Bomb Bomb ~~Iran~~ Australia:

US fighter jets drop bombs on Great Barrier Reef

“…inert bomb and an unarmed explosive bomb…”

Derp.

twisty Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:30:11pm

re: #2 goddamnedfrank

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Never trust someone who wants you to make them a part of the system they claim to want to dismantle.

Gus Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:31:41pm

No results found for “unarmed explosive bomb” site:.mil.

Then again. Lance Armstrong landed on the moon 44 years ago today.

Charles Johnson Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:32:45pm

re: #3 freetoken

Bomb Bomb Bomb ~~Iran~~ Australia:

US fighter jets drop bombs on Great Barrier Reef

Unarmed bombs, none of which exploded, because they were unarmed.

Gus Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:34:57pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Unarmed bombs, none of which exploded, because they were unarmed.

Another make believe term.

Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:35:48pm

re: #2 goddamnedfrank

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Why 2020 instead of 2016, I wonder?

Charles Johnson Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:37:24pm

First the US destroys all privacy world-wide, now they’re destroying the Great Barrier Reef with unarmed bombs.

This rogue nation has gone berserk.

goddamnedfrank Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:37:40pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

Why 2020 instead of 2016, I wonder?

Because he won’t be 35 until February of 2017.

William of Orange Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:38:36pm

re: #6 Gus

No results found for “unarmed explosive bomb” site:.mil.

Then again. Lance Armstrong landed on the moon 44 years ago today.

small fact; seven days before that, I landed on earth.

Gus Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:40:28pm

Unarmed bomb would suffice.

The Ghost of a Flea Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:41:50pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

First the US destroys all privacy world-wide, now they’re destroying the Great Barrier Reef with unarmed bombs.

This rogue nation has gone berserk.

Destroying the reef?

No.

They’re trying to trigger a sharknado.

Gus Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:42:06pm

“The man was found carrying explosive TNT.”

AlexRogan Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:42:42pm

re: #14 The Ghost of a Flea

Destroying the reef?

No.

They’re trying to trigger a sharknado.

Good. God….

Gus Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:42:54pm

“The flammable fire reached the treeline…”

Gus Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:43:08pm

“The man died in drownable water.”

freetoken Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:43:14pm

re: #14 The Ghost of a Flea

Destroying the reef?

No.

They’re trying to trigger a sharknado.

It’s all part of the GWOGWS - Global War On Great White Sharks.

jaunte Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:43:15pm

re: #2 goddamnedfrank

Jailed gun rights activist Adam Kokesh has vowed to run for president of the United States in 2020 on a platform aimed at abolishing the federal government.

It’s like unarmed bombs are tonight’s theme.

AlexRogan Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:43:22pm

re: #15 Gus

“The man was found carrying explosive TNT.”

Cuz he’s TNT, he’s dyn-o-mite…

The Ghost of a Flea Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:43:43pm

re: #19 freetoken

It’s all part of the GWOGWS - Global War On Great White Sharks.

The Chinese are winning that one.

AlexRogan Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:43:56pm

re: #20 jaunte

It’s like unarmed bombs are tonight’s theme.

Well, Kokesh is a dud…

jaunte Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:44:27pm

re: #23 AlexRogan

“None of the candidates exploded.”

freetoken Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:46:15pm

Cass Sunstein tackles why our kidz h8z science:

Why U.S. Students Don’t Major in Science

Snooki is more successful than any science graduate - why spend time in stale old classrooms when we all know what we really want is to be rich and celebrity.

goddamnedfrank Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:47:09pm

To be fair the GBR is a national treasure with massive cultural, historical and environmental significance. Certain islander religions and spirituality are heavily influenced by the species in the reef and like the article says, it is a World Heritage site. If Canada dropped some UXO on Yellowstone I’d expect there to be some discussion about it in the papers.

Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:47:27pm

re: #8 Gus

Another make believe term.

Inert training bombs, Gus.

Gus Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:47:56pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

Inert training bombs, Gus.

Oh yeah, I know about those. They’re blue.

Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:48:58pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

Because he won’t be 35 until February of 2017.

Oh. Thank you for knowing that.

alpuz Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:50:12pm

Justin Vernon grew up close to me and went to the same High School. I believe his mom was a teacher. I might be wrong.

From what I’ve learned he was big into the jazz program. Some other ‘kids’ that came outta that same school/program. Geoffrey Keezer, Noel Kupersmith, and Fred Spitz. Those are just the few I knew. There are many more. The University also has a great jazz & music program.

This is one of the many reasons why I was totally blindsided by the local right-wing hate for public education and teachers that spewed forth when Walker and the WisGoP laid out Act 10.

Surreal.

Gus Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:55:24pm

I should do an indiegogo to save my life. Nah.

Gus Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:02:38pm

Boobs.

Dark_Falcon Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:05:49pm

I missed this next story when in came out, but ten days ago Japan lost a true hero:

Masao Yoshida, the man in charge of Japan’s stricken nuclear plant in the wake of the catastrophic March 2011 earthquake and tsunami, has died of cancer in a Tokyo hospital aged 58.

Yoshida led the “Fukushima 50,” the group of men who risked their lives to contain the fallout from the world’s worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl.

He was diagnosed with esophageal cancer, which affects the throat, in late 2011 months after the tsunami struck, Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO), the operator of the nuclear facility, said.

The company added it was unlikely his cancer was a result of radiation exposure. They said that the condition usually takes five to 10 years to develop if radiation is to blame.

“Mr. Yoshida united staff and courageously handled the accident,” said Naomi Hirose, TEPCO’s chief executive.

Yoshida was at the Fukushima nuclear complex when the tsunami engulfed the cooling system and saw three reactors go into meltdown. In an interview in November 2011, he said he thought several times that he would die.

Defying orders from his bosses, Yoshida made the decision to pump seawater into the No. 1 reactor in a move that may have averted a catastrophic nuclear explosion.

freetoken Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:07:18pm

In that Cass Sunstein article he makes his first error in simply accepting the term “STEM”. This is a phrase used by part of the liberal arts intelligentsia (and it should be noted that Sunstein is a famous lawyer turned policy wonk for politicians) but that term cannot accurately describe the diversity of work done in the rather widely disparate fields of sciences and engineering. The “T” is for “technology” but that can include anything from your local cable TV installer to the poor slob who gets to collect urine samples at your local jail.

I look at that Sunstein piece as an example (yet one more) of trying to create an issue that then the “experts” (Sunstein et. al.) can come in and for the right price attempt to solve.

Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:10:54pm

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This is depressing.

re: #34 freetoken

In that Cass Sunstein article he makes his first error in simply accepting the term “STEM”. This is a phrase used by part of the liberal arts intelligentsia

It is also used by scientists, not sure why you think it’s not.

twisty Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:13:45pm

re: #34 freetoken
re: #35 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Yeah, personally I see STEM being used by people in STEM fields themselves more than anything. Usually during wonderful discussions about how non-STEM people are a cancerous blight on the planet dragging everyone else down, but as with everything I know that’s only the most obnoxious of the group doing that.

freetoken Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:15:15pm

re: #35 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

It is also used by scientists, not sure why you think it’s not.

In policy discussions, yes, the term is thrown around in fora when heads of organizations get together. But it is not an organic (i.e., arising from the work of scientists themselves) term, but one imposed by those who want to have grand economic and educational policies.

Gus Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:26:48pm

Currently throwing darts at Jimmy Carter.

freetoken Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:29:53pm

Back when I went to school, “science” was lumped with “humanities”, and “engineering” was considered separate from the previous. The heart of this is understanding the goals of the individuals involved. Physics was with Math was with Philosophy was with English, and so on, because the end product of these academics were the same - to push human knowledge forward.

Engineering (and in a similar sense Agriculture and Business) were separate schools because their goal was to train individuals to pursue careers for employment in American business endeavors.

Today, “technology” is a magic word, and that the acronym is “STEM” is too broad to meaningfully address the different issues addressed by individuals. E.g., the woman getting a PhD in ecology and evolution faces quite a different career path than someone being trained to do networking a la MCSE, both of whom are different in career prospects than someone in a BSEE program while also in also ROTC who’ll spend the next 20 years spending money in the DoD.

Yet all will be lumped under “STEM”.

Vicious Babushka Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:12:25pm

Helen Thomas has passed away. She had a long and distinguished career. She should be remembered for that, and not for one bigoted outburst.

Gus Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:14:13pm

re: #40 Vicious Babushka

Helen Thomas has passed away. She had a long and distinguished career. She should be remembered for that, and not for one bigoted outburst.

Fist bump.

Gus Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:15:13pm

[Pours whiskey. Checks bullet count in revolver. Looks around. Scratches beard.]

Targetpractice Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:23:52pm

re: #42 Gus

[Pours whiskey. Checks bullet count in revolver. Looks around. Scratches beard.]

Mr. Nolte, I think you’ve had enough.

Targetpractice Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:31:14pm

*pokes the thread with a stick*

Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:36:39pm

re: #44 Targetpractice

*pokes the thread with a stick*

Jabs back at you…

Vicious Babushka Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:38:48pm

WTF IS THIS WORD SALAD?

They're different, no doubt - but transpartisan quality of racism proves it is a pervasive system, and not only a problem of individuals.
— David Sirota (@davidsirota) July 21, 2013

Vicious Babushka Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:43:33pm

Is everybody out drinking or just passed out?

Targetpractice Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:44:56pm

re: #47 Vicious Babushka

Is everybody out drinking or just passed out?

I’m not think as you drunk I am!

Lidane Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:47:12pm

So I finally got around to watching Sharknado today. It wasn’t just bad. It was a terrible waste of film. I laughed my ass off the entire time.

If they’d had a real budget they could’ve done a Piranha 3D type film but with sharks. Maybe for the sequel.

Targetpractice Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:47:39pm

re: #49 Lidane

So I finally got around to watching Sharknado today. It wasn’t just bad. It was a terrible waste of film. I laughed my ass off the entire time.

If they’d had a real budget they could’ve done a Piranha 3D type film but with sharks. Maybe for the sequel.

So bad, it’s good?

Lidane Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:58:19pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

So bad, it’s good?

Yeah, pretty much. It’s awful. It’s the kind of movie MST3K was made for. Every scene shows the absurdity of the script. The acting is horrible. But I spent my time laughing at how bad it all was.

Targetpractice Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:00:40pm

re: #51 Lidane

Yeah, pretty much. It’s awful. It’s the kind of movie MST3K was made for. Every scene shows the absurdity of the script. The acting is horrible. But I spent my time laughing at how bad it all was.

Perhaps that’s the reason MST3K got cancelled, because if they’d kept them on the air, it would have had people asking why they weren’t riffing the movies the network was paying to make.

sagehen Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:03:58pm

re: #47 Vicious Babushka

Is everybody out drinking or just passed out?

resting up for tomorrow’s Buffy marathon…

Targetpractice Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:04:59pm

re: #53 sagehen

resting up for tomorrow’s Buffy marathon…

Oh cool, how to cap off a weekend that started with a Highlander marathon yesterday.

Bubblehead II Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:13:32pm

re: #47 Vicious Babushka

Is everybody out drinking or just passed out?

Both?

Burned out on the outragious outrages.

Stanley Sea Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:16:28pm

re: #47 Vicious Babushka

Is everybody out drinking or just passed out?

Just ate a pile of food. Coma time. But my linguine & white clam turned out perfect!

Stanley Sea Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:36:07pm

Romania’s National History Museum is examining ashes found in a stove in the tiny village of Caracliu to see if they are the remnants of artworks by some of the world’s most celebrated modernist painters, including Monet, Picasso and Matisse.

HappyWarrior Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:43:49pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea

Romania’s National History Museum is examining ashes found in a stove in the tiny village of Caracliu to see if they are the remnants of artworks by some of the world’s most celebrated modernist painters, including Monet, Picasso and Matisse.

Read more: http://world.time.com/2013/07/19/stolen-picasso-among-paintings-burned-in-a-romanian-stove/#ixzz2ZeSCFGrC

Amazing.

Bubblehead II Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:47:47pm

Night Lizards. Going into standby mode. See you in the morning. Until then, May the Deities of your choice smile down upon you and your’s.

And no, hitting any key will not wake me up :-)

Stanley Sea Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:16:57pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Amazing.

Criminal! (ha)

HappyWarrior Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:21:46pm

re: #60 Stanley Sea

Criminal! (ha)

Well that too.

palomino Sat, Jul 20, 2013 11:07:45pm

re: #46 Vicious Babushka

WTF IS THIS WORD SALAD?

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I think he’s trying to say that the racism’s existence across ideological lines proves that it’s not simply a case of bigoted individuals, but a wider systemic and institutionalized problem.

But his tweet shows the limits of that method of communication. 140 character limit leads to lots of miscommunication and oversimplistic posts.

freetoken Sun, Jul 21, 2013 1:37:10am

MP3 Audio

Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jul 21, 2013 2:17:27am

re: #37 freetoken

In policy discussions, yes, the term is thrown around in fora when heads of organizations get together. But it is not an organic (i.e., arising from the work of scientists themselves) term, but one imposed by those who want to have grand economic and educational policies.

Okay, I still don’t get what you’re angry about.

prairiefire Sun, Jul 21, 2013 2:51:21am

re: #34 freetoken

The “Stem” study, if you will, is an outreach of government science programs (military included) to people who have an interest in these areas. It is heavily funded by our American military. I have no problem with them picking off the brightest and finest who want to serve our country.
It can be a great career and lead to further advancement.

Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jul 21, 2013 2:59:01am

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Justanotherhuman Sun, Jul 21, 2013 4:39:25am

This news is getting a little moldy, but you knew it was coming.

Florida shop offers free gun to George Zimmerman m.clickorlando.com as have gun nuts in Ohio: gunssavelives.net

Others, including author “Brad Thor” who appeared on several TV shows hawking his formulaic novels and talking about it, even twitted about it, have made offers as well: twitter.com

No doubt he’s not strapped for cash right now, either; looks like a lot of it is going for meals: Image: zimmerman-plus-110.jpg?w=490&h=633

First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sun, Jul 21, 2013 4:43:13am

Trailer for “Booker’s Place”

Youtube Video

Highly recommended. It’s on Netflix, at least for the moment.

Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jul 21, 2013 5:01:28am

Still applicable today:

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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jul 21, 2013 5:03:53am

Goldman Sachs literally has people driving aluminium around, unpacking and repacking it, so that they can make a tiny bit more money off of it. The end result is that it takes fucking forever for people to get the aluminum.

nytimes.com

This is classic rent-seeking behavior, and it should be illegal. It decreases efficiency. It only benefits Goldman Sachs. It destroys wealth.

Fuckers.

Justanotherhuman Sun, Jul 21, 2013 5:15:11am

re: #70 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

And the excuses! In a city where unemployment is higher than the natl avg, and the State gov tried to put it in bankruptcy: “Metro International, which declined to comment for this article, in the past has attributed the delays to logistical problems, including a shortage of trucks and forklift drivers…”

It does make the common copper thieves (probably shoved out of work by those like Goldman Sachs) look like real losers.

A Mom Anon Sun, Jul 21, 2013 5:34:30am

re: #70 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Oh, another Enron-like bunch of shit. That’s nice.

You know, all it would take is for one of these rich fuckers to be sentenced to life in prison(and not get out of it after the fact like fucking Skilling did-reduced sentence? Seriously?) and have to do time at Pelican Bay or some other nasty supermax with no country club wing and this shit would slow down. But no. I can get caught with a joint in my purse and it would ruin my life and break my family financially. These fucking assholes are ruining the country.

I wish more people understood this

Vicious Babushka Sun, Jul 21, 2013 5:42:46am

re: #70 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Goldman Sachs literally has people driving aluminium around, unpacking and repacking it, so that they can make a tiny bit more money off of it. The end result is that it takes fucking forever for people to get the aluminum.

nytimes.com

This is classic rent-seeking behavior, and it should be illegal. It decreases efficiency. It only benefits Goldman Sachs. It destroys wealth.

Fuckers.

I haz a rage. And meanwhile they want to plunder the $1600/month pensions of little old ladies who have spent 40 years teaching in the Detroit Public Schools.

Fuck them twice. With a rusty shovel.

Vicious Babushka Sun, Jul 21, 2013 5:47:56am

re: #69 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Still applicable today:

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That is so Tweeted!

Blame Democrats and the Poors! #UniteBlue #lnyhbt #tcot #tgdn #Solidarity #Unions pic.twitter.com/2tbVHdkj4v
— Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) July 21, 2013

Justanotherhuman Sun, Jul 21, 2013 5:54:48am

re: #73 Vicious Babushka

I haz a rage. And meanwhile they want to plunder the $1600/month pensions of little old ladies who have spent 40 years teaching in the Detroit Public Schools.

Fuck them twice. With a rusty shovel.

I agree, a million times. In my case, I earned no pension in private industry, not even making a halfway decent income until my early 50s (which was snatched away after 5 yrs—long story of ambition, lack of ethics and greed but not on my part). Any small amts of 401ks (under $2K, all 3 of them at diff jobs) were needed to be cashed in to pay the mortgage in times of economic stress. I’m not atypical, either, for the lower paid single mother who will eventually be forced to live solely on her own SS. If I didn’t have my g-son and his child w/me, it would be a pretty empty existence, more than just financially.

Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jul 21, 2013 6:08:32am

If anyone is on the lookout for a great offbeat movie, “Smoke” is an often-overlooked classic. It’s got a great cast of stars acting subtle and real, an excellent script, and most of all, it’s got people being real, genuine, and nice, and not total assholes. It’s a little slice of America the way it so often really is, with people wanting to help each other out and improve each other’s lives.

Justanotherhuman Sun, Jul 21, 2013 6:18:32am

Good news on the homefront, though. My g-son wants me to teach him how to cook real food. First lesson today, with some chicken. Little steps.

Now, if I can just get him to clean up his man-cave/bedroom to match the rest of the apt. : )

PhillyPretzel Sun, Jul 21, 2013 6:22:39am

re: #77 Justanotherhuman

Cook’s Illustrated has tested recipes that if you follow the directions will turn out perfect. It is a good morale booster. cooksillustrated.com

Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 21, 2013 6:27:17am

re: #70 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Goldman Sachs literally has people driving aluminium around, unpacking and repacking it, so that they can make a tiny bit more money off of it. The end result is that it takes fucking forever for people to get the aluminum.

nytimes.com

This is classic rent-seeking behavior, and it should be illegal. It decreases efficiency. It only benefits Goldman Sachs. It destroys wealth.

Fuckers.

Must Concur.

darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 6:38:04am

Mornin’ everyone.

The only thing that makes the Geraldo thing better is the chance that Newt Gingrich might see it on Google Glass.
— Ian (@iboudreau) July 21, 2013

The Geraldo thing:

Geraldo in his prime. pic.twitter.com/fK9gybQ3sb
— Jimmy (@JimmyPrinceton) July 21, 2013

darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 6:41:28am

re: #80 darthstar

Mornin’ everyone.

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Sorry…THIS is the Geraldo thing

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darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 6:42:15am

Too bad you can’t hide tweets in a spoiler.

A Mom Anon Sun, Jul 21, 2013 6:46:07am

re: #81 darthstar

What a pompous asshole. And thanks, I can’t unsee that. If he has a dog, I hope it bites him on the wang.

Oh, but Trayvon wore a hoodie and had a grill in his mouth once and we’re supposed to judge him.

God I hate people sometimes.

Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 21, 2013 6:46:44am

re: #81 darthstar

Sorry…THIS is the Geraldo thing

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The man takes good care of his body, but his reporting does not take good care of the truth.

darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 6:52:25am

Thanks, twitter. If I wanted to see Geraldo Rivera naked, I'D BE GERALDO FUCKING RIVERA!
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) July 21, 2013

darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 6:54:30am

Edited the Rivera tweet so you can load the URL yourself. Please accept my apologies. Hell, I have limited taste and having that scroll by my screen bugs me.

darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 7:06:53am

Good read on the #ACA. Read it. Share it, retweet it. http://t.co/NSyRlvTB0w
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) July 21, 2013

First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sun, Jul 21, 2013 7:12:27am

re: #83 A Mom Anon

What a pompous asshole. And thanks, I can’t unsee that. If he has a dog, I hope it bites him on the wang.

Have you ever seen a (healthy) dog react to to an offered food item that the dog finds unappetizing?

My dog will eat just about anything, and if he sees me eating something he becomes quite interested and will sit down near me “at attention”, watching every bite. “Look at what a great dog I am. Remember all those times the FedEx guy knocked on the door, obviously intent on killing both of us? Remember how I barked and he got so scared that he dropped the box he was holding and went away? We got some sweet loot from those examples of my unflagging bravery. Yeah, I’ve got your back, so you should really give me a bit of whatever it is you’re eating.”

So I offer him a small wedge of the orange I’m eating. He eagerly comes up and takes two sniffs, but then backs away, looking confused and a bit hurt. “Aw, HELL no, man! Why would you think I would eat that sort of thing? I thought we were friends.” Then he goes and sulks in the corner, refusing to make eye contact because I offered him a bit of orange.

I think most dogs would not voluntarily bite Geraldo’s wang, despite its probable resemblance to a rawhide bone.

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 21, 2013 7:12:45am

re: #85 darthstar

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If he didn’t change his 1st name from Gerald and didn’t have the porn ‘stach he’d be doing weather reports at a Schenectady TV station!

darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 7:12:58am

I hope the Sunday talk shows spend more time honoring Helen Thomas than they do Glenn Greenwald.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) July 21, 2013

darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 7:14:26am

okay…gotta run. Laterz

Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Jul 21, 2013 7:16:14am

re: #87 darthstar

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It does not matter what AHA does to help a few million individuals, ideologically, it is KILLING our country and the Free Market.

HoosierHoops Sun, Jul 21, 2013 7:17:15am

Good Morning Lizards..So nice to see my Jemele Hill again on ESPN The Sports Reporters..She has really become a Star on ESPN over the last few years. She is a sharp writer, good looking, personable, young African-American Lady on her way up.
She has really impressed me with her talent and I emailed her the first day when she got hired by ESPN…We have a casual email thread over the years and I really like her personality.. She even flirted with me once as we just joked about something. A good Person..
Earlier this year she had the Gall to speak about race issues and Black men in sports once she was attacked by the Brietbarts and Drudge readers.The Bigots from those Political sites came out with the long knives calling her names and saying she was a monkey and things unprintable..She had to face this attack publicly on ESPN and I know..I know she was hurt deeply..I don’t think she had any idea how hateful the new political right had become..She is a sports writer..
So as I watched her on ESPN this morning with such grace knocking it out of the park I thought this..

There is no other reason..It’s not the Travon Martin case or Race issues any other thing in the News..
I Hate you fucking Brietbart Readers and Drudge people and the rest of your ilk.. I Fucking hate you..Everything you are.Everything you stand for..I hate you..
And I don’t give a shit about how you spin it.

A Mom Anon Sun, Jul 21, 2013 7:27:45am

re: #92 Sol Berdinowitz

Yeah, read the comments on that op/ed. Jesus, people are dumb and mean.

My husband’s new employer doesn’t pay a penny for the family’s health insurance. They pay for most of his, but to get me on the policy it quadruples, to put our son on it, it goes up EIGHT times, to almost 800 a month. I don’t blame the ACA for that, I blame greedy executives. So, we had limited options. We put me on the husband’s plan and sought out separate healthcare and a dental plan for our son. I have no idea if the plan we picked for him will be worth a shit until something happens. And of course GA’s governor won’t green light a state run exchange, so I have no clue what, if anything will be available to us and what it will cost after the beginning of next year. There’s also no dental or vision care in the ACA that I’m aware of, which is another problem. Dental insurance is a joke, our plans cover a max of 1000 dollars a year. That’s it. One root canal or a broken tooth or a couple of fillings and that’s the end of your coverage till the next year. Why aren’t medical and dental linked? Dental health is part of your overall health, it’s such bullshit it’s separate.

Fucking insurance companies are not our friends.

Justanotherhuman Sun, Jul 21, 2013 7:33:45am

re: #93 HoosierHoops

Fascist hater myself. Image: 650px-Woody_Guthrie_2.jpg

Yes, that’s exactly what those people are: fascists at heart. They don’t even pretend they’re not anymore; hell, they no longer even deny they’re being manipulated by their masters. They simply don’t believe in real democracy in any form, in spite of their rhetoric to the contrary about the Constitution which they twist for their own purposes, just as they do the bible.

Live and let live? Not in their world.

Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Sun, Jul 21, 2013 7:34:26am

Here’s something to reassure the homophobes (well, it’d reassure them if they believed in science, anyway.)

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Basically: Same-sex attraction isn’t peer-influenced. Admitting to it may be, but actually having it is not influenced by how many of your peers are doing it.

Justanotherhuman Sun, Jul 21, 2013 7:41:53am

re: #94 A Mom Anon

Yeah, read the comments on that op/ed. Jesus, people are dumb and mean.

My husband’s new employer doesn’t pay a penny for the family’s health insurance. They pay for most of his, but to get me on the policy it quadruples, to put our son on it, it goes up EIGHT times, to almost 800 a month. I don’t blame the ACA for that, I blame greedy executives. So, we had limited options. We put me on the husband’s plan and sought out separate healthcare and a dental plan for our son. I have no idea if the plan we picked for him will be worth a shit until something happens. And of course GA’s governor won’t green light a state run exchange, so I have no clue what, if anything will be available to us and what it will cost after the beginning of next year. There’s also no dental or vision care in the ACA that I’m aware of, which is another problem. Dental insurance is a joke, our plans cover a max of 1000 dollars a year. That’s it. One root canal or a broken tooth or a couple of fillings and that’s the end of your coverage till the next year. Why aren’t medical and dental linked? Dental health is part of your overall health, it’s such bullshit it’s separate.

Fucking insurance companies are not our friends.

Yes, Medicare doesn’t cover dental or eyecare, either, unless you can cook up a “real” medical reason. At least if we had universal health care, it might free up a bit of cash to take care of those things, but why not treat them as Medicaid does? As a result of not having that cash, my old fillings are falling out and I’m losing teeth in my old age, even though I’ve taken care of them for many years and seeing a dentist regularly, but thankfully, I no longer need glasses of any kind (it’s a miracle, I tell ya!). No, it’s actually a condition called in lay terms, “second sight” which could be a precursor to cataracts (no sign yet, though).

darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 7:49:54am

Morning plans changed. Now where were we? Oh, yes…

True Story: @geraldorivera go fuck yourself
— The Iron Sheik (@the_ironsheik) July 21, 2013

darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 7:52:35am

Justice Roberts asks GOP to stop calling Obama a racist: “It goes against the 'racism is dead' story we're using to stop blacks from voting”
— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) July 21, 2013

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darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:09:47am

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darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:11:27am

@FORUS50 I'll bet Sarah Palin regrets ever putting him on the ticket.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) July 21, 2013

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darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:17:33am

Okay, I give up. Where the fuck is everyone?

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:21:09am

re: #102 darthstar

Okay, I give up. Where the fuck is everyone?

ummm,,, I’m at home
Why? Where is everyone supposed to be!?!?! Did we miss an appointment?

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:21:48am

re: #102 darthstar

Okay, I give up. Where the fuck is everyone?

and btw ,,, this IS “everyone”!!!

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Romantic Heretic Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:22:56am

re: #72 A Mom Anon

I wish more people understood this

That video reminded me of this cartoon.

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darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:25:28am

re: #103 sattv4u2

ummm,,, I’m at home
Why? Where is everyone supposed to be!?!?! Did we miss an appointment?

It’s pretty sad that when a thread goes quite I even miss you.
/

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Stanley Sea Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:26:13am

re: #93 HoosierHoops

I first “met” Jemele when she was on Jim Rome years ago.

Great post Hoops!

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:26:25am

re: #106 darthstar

It’s pretty sad that when a thread goes quite I even miss you.

You never did have good aim!

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Decatur Deb Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:27:07am

SSssshhh. I’m stalking wabbits.

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:28:33am

re: #109 Decatur Deb

SSssshhh. I’m stalking wabbits.

Why would you put stockings on rabbits??

You have a Jessica fetish, huh ??
Image: 2963926-2935656-jessica_rabbit_992x993.jpg

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darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:29:22am

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:30:58am

re: #111 darthstar

Image: 1005743_708058585890264_235452318_n.jpg

~~Hot~~ Hard Dog

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darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:32:17am

Tiger’s still four strokes back but it’s fun watching him when he feels like he’s in the chase. Drains 30 foot puts like he’s shooting a three pointer.

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darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:41:47am

I remain curious about this Cuccinelli guy stating 'homosexuality is a personal challenge.' Does he think sodomy laws will help him resist?
— techweenie (@techweenie) July 21, 2013

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Gus Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:42:03am

I remain curious about this Cuccinelli guy stating 'homosexuality is a personal challenge.' Does he think sodomy laws will help him resist?
— techweenie (@techweenie) July 21, 2013

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Gus Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:42:34am

re: #114 darthstar

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I keel you!

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darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:42:40am

Holy shit…I tweet-scooped Gus!

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Gus Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:43:31am

re: #117 darthstar

Holy shit…I tweet-scooped Gus!

“Welp. Sodomy is illegal. Guess I can’t become gay.”

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darthstar Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:44:27am

Image: the-face-of-victory-o.gif

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Feline Fearless Leader Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:47:11am

Heh.

“George Zimmerman has changed his name to Ben Ghazi so that Obama and the media never mention his name again.”

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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jul 21, 2013 8:48:23am

re: #120 Feline Fearless Leader

lol

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Stanley Sea Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:06:52am

I want to congratulate #SecKerry for a fantastic job. No issue was too small for him. I believe there is a chance now http://t.co/Zgv45GNvE7

— PresidentPeres (@PresidentPeres) July 20, 2013

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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:18:05am

‘It is a national evil that any class of Her Majesty’s subjects should receive less than a living wage in return for their utmost exertions… where you have what we call sweated trades, you have no organisation, no parity of bargaining, the good employer is undercut by the bad and the bad by the worst; the worker, whose whole livelihood depends upon the industry, is undersold by the worker who only takes up the trade as a second string… where these conditions prevail you have not a condition of progress, but a condition of progressive degeneration.’
Winston Churchill MP in 1906, during debates on the Trade Boards Act 1909.[2]

yes? no?

you?

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b.d. Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:21:16am

re: #113 darthstar

Tiger’s still four strokes back but it’s fun watching him when he feels like he’s in the chase. Drains 30 foot puts like he’s shooting a three pointer.

Tiger has been throwing a fit since the first hole, that putt was the first thing he has been happy about all day. I’m laid up here with a head cold and really wish that Mickelson would not win this thing.

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jaunte Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:24:09am

re: #123 FemNaziBitch

Why McDonald’s Employee Budget Has Everyone Up In Arms

“…in doing so, the company may have inadvertently done something else: Shown that it’s nearly impossible to make a living off the minimum wage.
……………..
Take a look at the sample budget, provided in a Web site that McDonald’s created in conjunction with Visa. Here are some of the main criticisms of it:
- It assumes the worker is working two jobs.
- It surmises that health insurance costs $20 a month.
- It doesn’t include child care, groceries, clothing or gas for the worker’s car.
- Also, another, possibly earlier, version of the budget (seen here) proposed that heating would cost $0 a month.

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Gus Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:26:21am

70 is the new 50 (Erica and family are going to be so pissed…but at my age…) pic.twitter.com/KU9IQhaF0w
— Geraldo Rivera (@GeraldoRivera) July 21, 2013

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jaunte Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:26:52am

Gahhh!

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jaunte Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:27:28am

If a 70 year old woman published a selfie like Geraldo's, Fox News would label her a terrorist.
— Anil Dash (@anildash) July 21, 2013

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:28:27am

re: #126 Gus

Dear Gerry
It is 2013. Don’t you think it’s about time you got rid of the 1970’s style Porn ‘Stach

Disgusted
Me

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b.d. Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:28:57am

re: #126 Gus
WTF? Has he gone mad? Notice the time stamp too.

I also like how his avatar picture sure looks like it is 40 years old.

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Justanotherhuman Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:30:44am

re: #126 Gus

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70 is the new 50 only if your vanity exceeds your intelligence.

Signed, A 72 yr old.

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Gus Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:32:41am

I think you misspelled 'profit'… RT @patrickdshaffer: @Toure @goldietaylor Tavis is a prophet!!!
— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor) July 21, 2013

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Stanley Sea Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:33:18am

First tweet I saw this morning. I was like what?

Then I found what GR posted….

Thanks internet, I cannot unsee Geraldo Rivera's naked selfie. So much wrong. So. Much. Wrong…
— Meghan McCain (@MeghanMcCain) July 21, 2013

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bratwurst Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:36:19am

Of all of the Fox News Channel personalities to post a topless selfie, it had to be GERALDO?!?

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b.d. Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:37:17am

re: #134 bratwurst

Of all of the Fox News Channel personalities to post a topless selfie, it had to be GERALDO?!?

LOL, my money was on it being Shepard Smith.

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Gus Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:37:19am

#TavisWeeps

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122 Year Old Obama Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:40:31am

Vomit.

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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:42:14am

In the dictionary, under the phrase “Shameless Self-Promotion”, is a pic of Geraldo.

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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:46:09am

The inflated aluminum pricing is just one way that Wall Street is flexing its financial muscle and capitalizing on loosened federal regulations to sway a variety of commodities markets, according to financial records, regulatory documents and interviews with people involved in the activities.
The maneuvering in markets for oil, wheat, cotton, coffee and more have brought billions in profits to investment banks like Goldman, JPMorgan Chase and Morgan Stanley, while forcing consumers to pay more every time they fill up a gas tank, flick on a light switch, open a beer or buy a cellphone. In the last year, federal authorities have accused three banks, including JPMorgan, of rigging electricity prices, and last week JPMorgan was trying to reach a settlement that could cost it $500 million.

I’m a bit embarrassed. I Paged it, but I can’t bear to read the entire article right now. It’s just too early in the day and there isn’t enough coffee.

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Gus Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:51:13am

re: #139 FemNaziBitch

I’m a bit embarrassed. I Paged it, but I can’t bear to read the entire article right now. It’s just too early in the day and there isn’t enough coffee.

That’s not capitalism that’s a freaking scam. Pisses me off. Then they moan that they can’t afford raising the minimum wage and blame higher prices because of regulation. Assholes.

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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:53:18am

re: #140 Gus

That’s not capitalism that’s a freaking scam. Pisses me off. Then they moan that they can’t afford raising the minimum wage and blame higher prices because of regulation. Assholes.

Yes, I know.

How do we those not in the choir to hear?

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Gus Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:53:37am

Breaking out my pre-sweetened Kool-Aid in Tavis's honor. #TheRedKind t.co/B4MtQgYqV2
— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor) July 21, 2013

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ProTARDISLiberal Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:54:22am

re: #142 Gus

What exactly is going on?

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Gus Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:54:32am

re: #141 FemNaziBitch

Yes, I know.

How do we those not in the choir to hear?

Congress.

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Interesting Times Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:55:08am

re: #134 bratwurst

Of all of the Fox News Channel personalities to post a topless selfie, it had to be GERALDO?!?

Why, would you prefer O’Reilly or Hannity? :P

/ducks

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b_sharp Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:55:41am

re: #141 FemNaziBitch

Yes, I know.

How do we those not in the choir to hear?

Much you sense make not.

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Gus Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:57:08am

re: #146 b_sharp

Much you sense make not.

Sense make not much for I yet updinged it just the same for I.

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:57:35am

re: #146 b_sharp

Much you sense make not.

For a moment there, I thought all those drugs from the 70’s were kicking back on me!!

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jaunte Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:58:17am

re: #143 ProTARDISLiberal

Banks in commodity trading:
nytimes.com

It’s insider trading.

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jaunte Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:59:20am

re: #147 Gus

Order words sometimes not the matter makes.

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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jul 21, 2013 9:59:47am

re: #149 jaunte

Banks in commodity trading:
nytimes.com

It’s insider trading.

creating a monopoly of sorts …

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jaunte Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:00:46am

re: #151 FemNaziBitch

“I’m going to have to charge you more because I told my warehouse to work more slowly.”

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Gus Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:01:14am

Heh. They get to “settle” in what amounts to a fine, er, pay off.

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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:02:20am

Voltaire

I decided not to Promote Voltaire because of a quote I found regarding Jews. Yet, I couldn’t resist framing this one.

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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:03:02am

re: #152 jaunte

“I’m going to have to charge you more because I told my warehouse to work more slowly.”

But that’s ok, I’ll make-it up on the financing and insurance.

Everyone gets to be a car dealer?

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Justanotherhuman Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:04:49am

Trial balloon. Of sorts.

Image: sunday-toon-1_custom-6f8c81a769a6b8ea8829b2a757d46c3cd478be01-s4.jpg

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Stanley Sea Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:05:09am

For ProTARDIS

We love this video so much we're tweeting it again: Matt Smith secretly walks the floor of #SDCC #DoctorWho http://t.co/79x0jaeipf

— Doctor Who on BBCA (@DoctorWho_BBCA) July 21, 2013

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jaunte Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:06:37am

Someone needs to be prosecuted for fraud.

The Warehouse Dance

On the warehouse floor, the arrangement makes for a peculiar workday, employees say.

Despite the persistent backlogs, many Metro warehouses operate only one shift and usually sit idle 12 or more hours a day. In a town like Detroit, where factories routinely operate round the clock when necessary, warehouse workers say that low-key pace is uncommon.

When they do work, forklift drivers say, there is much more urgency moving aluminum into, and among, the warehouses than shipping it out. Mr. Clay, the forklift driver, who worked at the Mount Clemens warehouse until February, said that while aluminum was delivered in huge loads by rail car, it left in a relative trickle by truck.

“They’d keep loading up the warehouses and every now and then, when one was totally full they’d shut it down and send the drivers over here to try and fill another one up,” said Mr. Clay, 23.
nytimes.com

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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:09:08am

re: #158 jaunte

Someone needs to be prosecuted for fraud.

Thank you for reading what I could not.

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Justanotherhuman Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:09:32am

Armor up, Wyoming: Image: sunday-toon-1_custom-6f8c81a769a6b8ea8829b2a757d46c3cd478be01-s4.jpg

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ProTARDISLiberal Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:13:03am

re: #157 Stanley Sea

I wish I could have gone. I really wanted to meet Matt Smith and Jenna Coleman.

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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:18:52am

re: #125 jaunte

Why McDonald’s Employee Budget Has Everyone Up In Arms

Gas to get to work, even with carpooling, would blow that budget the first week.

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jaunte Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:20:15am

Trying out a new diet where I look at the Geraldo selfie whenever I have an appetite.
— Tim Siedell (@badbanana) July 21, 2013

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ProTARDISLiberal Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:20:41am

re: #161 ProTARDISLiberal

Really want to thank them for helping me get through an absolutely miserable depression. And thank Moffat for The Name of the Doctor.

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Dave In Austin Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:20:41am

Cannot Unsee!!!!

Horaldo

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Justanotherhuman Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:22:05am

re: #162 FemNaziBitch

Gas to get to work, even with carpooling, would blow that budget the first week.

So would eating.

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klys Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:22:46am

re: #161 ProTARDISLiberal

I wish I could have gone. I really wanted to meet Matt Smith and Jenna Coleman.

I was at the Nerdist podcast recording last night where Matt Smith was the guest. You should watch for that because he talks a bunch about being the Doctor and whatnot.

(I was way up in the cheap seats and didn’t get to ask a question or anything, but it was still pretty neat.)

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Targetpractice Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:24:46am

re: #165 Dave In Austin

Cannot Unsee!!!!

Horaldo

MY EYES!!!

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Stanley Sea Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:25:20am

re: #125 jaunte

Why McDonald’s Employee Budget Has Everyone Up In Arms

I can’t get over that someone would actually type “income from second job”

The new normal and proud of it.

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Gus Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:26:46am

Salon continuing its downward spiral on all fronts.

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Targetpractice Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:27:33am

re: #169 Stanley Sea

I can’t get over that someone would actually type “income from second job”

The new normal and proud of it.

“What, you wanted to support a family on a single job? That’s cute. Back to the grindstone, slave!”

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Usually refered to as anyways Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:27:57am

re: #4 Gus

“…inert bomb and an unarmed explosive bomb…”

Derp.

Maybe if it was Yosemite or the Grand Canyon you might feel different.
World Heritage places - The Great Barrier Reef, Queensland …

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jaunte Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:28:10am

If Senator Cruz continues communicating and leading as he currently is, the 2016 field will narrow quickly.
— Bob Vander Plaats (@bobvanderplaats) July 19, 2013

When it comes to narrow, Cruz is second to none.

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Targetpractice Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:28:53am

re: #173 jaunte

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When it comes to narrow, Cruz is second to none.

Ted Cruz ‘16: Why Choose The Lesser Evil?

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Gus Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:29:25am

re: #172 Usually refered to as anyways

Maybe if it was Yosemite or the Grand Canyon you might feel different.
World Heritage places - The Great Barrier Reef, Queensland …

I was talking about the nomenclature used.

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ProTARDISLiberal Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:31:26am

re: #172 Usually refered to as anyways

Somebody needs to be summoned to Washington for that fuck-up. That may have damaged a portion of the reef.

Also, gift Australia some money for any restoration work that is needed, and give a really damn humble apology.

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jaunte Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:33:04am

re: #174 Targetpractice

Photo of the week: Laying hands on Ted Cruz, his dad & @DavidBartonWB at Iowa political rally /via @TheBrodyFile pic.twitter.com/yuC7hR4dpk

— Bud Kennedy (@BudKennedy) July 21, 2013

“There should be absolutely no “Separation of Church and State” in America.”
— David Barton

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FemNaziBitch Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:33:39am

bbl

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Usually refered to as anyways Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:34:18am

re: #176 ProTARDISLiberal

Somebody needs to be summoned to Washington for that fuck-up. That may have damaged a portion of the reef.

Also, gift Australia some money for any restoration work that is needed, and give a really damn humble apology.

Too bad you can’t buy coral reefs…

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Gus Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:35:08am

re: #177 jaunte

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“There should be absolutely no “Separation of Church and State” in America.”
— David Barton

O_o

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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:35:31am

re: #176 ProTARDISLiberal

Somebody needs to be summoned to Washington for that fuck-up. That may have damaged a portion of the reef.

Also, gift Australia some money for any restoration work that is needed, and give a really damn humble apology.

What happened was that a plane on a training flight had a fuel emergency (usually this means a part of the fuel system has malfunctioned) and needed to jettison its practice bombs at once. While unpleasant, that’s not a major fuck up if no person dies and it should not be a career ender for the pilot.

The Navy has historically provided compensation in cases like that and should do so now.

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Targetpractice Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:35:47am

re: #177 jaunte

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“There should be absolutely no “Separation of Church and State” in America.”
— David Barton

…

I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.//

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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:37:18am

re: #165 Dave In Austin

Cannot Unsee!!!!

Horaldo

That Twitter pic should be sent to Harmony Gold with the caption “What has been Seen cannot be Unseen.”

/Battletech joke

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b_sharp Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:37:31am

re: #172 Usually refered to as anyways

Maybe if it was Yosemite or the Grand Canyon you might feel different.
World Heritage places - The Great Barrier Reef, Queensland …

What damage was done?

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b_sharp Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:38:47am

re: #177 jaunte

[Embedded content]

“There should be absolutely no “Separation of Church and State” in America.”
— David Barton

Isn’t that what the Muslim Brotherhood wants?

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Gus Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:39:07am

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

What happened was that a plane on a training flight had a fuel emergency (usually this means a part of the fuel system has malfunctioned) and needed to jettison its practice bombs at once. While unpleasant, that’s not a major fuck up if no person dies and it should not be a career ender for the pilot.

The Navy has historically provided compensation in cases like that and should do so now.

Here’s an idea…

Option A: emergency jettison of practice bombs over said area.

Option B: do not jettison bombs and let aircraft crash into said area also requiring a rescue operation.

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Usually refered to as anyways Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:41:24am

re: #184 b_sharp

What damage was done?

I’m guessing no ones been out to look yet.
They would still make a mess dropped at speed.

3:40 am here, need some sleep, night lizards…

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BigPapa Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:42:01am

Right Wing Troll Notification System

Only a test.

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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:43:14am

re: #185 b_sharp

Isn’t that what the Muslim Brotherhood wants?

It’s different because:

A. Because David Barton is a Faithful Christian, not a Satanic Muslim.

B. Because David Barton is using faith to defend Real America from Godless Obamunism.

C. Because “Shut Up, You Liberal Heathen!”

D. Rand Paul

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sagehen Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:43:21am

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

What happened was that a plane on a training flight had a fuel emergency (usually this means a part of the fuel system has malfunctioned) and needed to jettison its practice bombs at once. While unpleasant, that’s not a major fuck up if no person dies and it should not be a career ender for the pilot.

The Navy has historically provided compensation in cases like that and should do so now.

A couple of years ago the Navy fucked up another super-special coral reef near the Phillipines by a minesweeper running aground on it; we had to take the entire ship apart and remove it in pieces…

We can’t keep doing these things and think nobody will notice, or that just writing a check will take care of it. Even a big check.

We can’t keep doing things like this and think nobody will mind.

191

Usually refered to as anyways Sun, Jul 21, 2013 10:43:36am

Each Harrier jet dropped two 227-kilo bombs: one BDU 45 and one High Explosive GBU 12. The BDU 45s are inert and the GBU 12s were unarmed when released, so none exploded.

The extent of damage to the reef or other marine life is unclear.

Bon Iver: Towers

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