1 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 6:34:44pm

Notice that you can see the inside front cover bleeding through a bit.

2 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 6:42:12pm

And it looks like the NVA soldier on the left side of the page is about to drop a round into the mortar wrong end first.

RBS

3 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 6:44:30pm

re: #2 RealityBasedSteve

And it looks like the NVA soldier on the left side of the page is about to drop a round into the mortar wrong end first.

RBS

Of course. The commies have to be incompetent, unless they’re trying to infiltrate America, in which case they’re very clever.


/Must I?

4 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 6:50:18pm

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

Of course. The commies have to be incompetent, unless they’re trying to infiltrate America, in which case they’re very clever.

/Must I?

So, their cleverness is a disguise for incompetence? Or is it that their incompetence merely masks their cleverness? Or is it possibly both at once? I wouldn’t put it past them you know….

RBS

5 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 6:51:10pm

Charles Johnson,

And how much do you want to bet that unlike in real life, the US (in the form of Thor) is going to win?

6 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 6:52:45pm

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

Of course. The commies have to be incompetent, unless they’re trying to infiltrate America, in which case they’re very clever.

/Must I?

Much like the “counter jihad’s” view of Muslims. They’re always incompetent and stupid, except when they’re infiltrating our country and trying to destroy it from within by stealth.

7 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 6:53:03pm
8 jaunte  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 6:53:38pm

“The story goes that Norman Rockwell, seeking authenticity, wanted to rip holes in the soldiers’s shirt. The GI said fine. Rockwell asked to smear mud on his face and hands. Not a problem.

But when the artist asked to rub dirt on his machine gun, the soldier refused: No proper gunner could tolerate that. So Rockwell portrayed the GI as tattered and begrimed, but with his big gray Browning machine gun sleek and clean.”

9 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 6:54:12pm

Just got back from taking my eldest to her birthday dinner. Party is this Saturday.

Next year she becomes a teenager.

10 Egregious Philbin  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 6:57:46pm

“…..You’re Thor? Hell, I’m so Thor I can barely walk!”


(punchline to a great joke)

11 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 6:58:11pm

re: #8 jaunte

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Richard Sharpe: No apologies about your men?
Frederickson: Men are dirty, Mr. Sharpe. Rifles are clean!

(Frederickson was always one of my favorite characters in the Sharpe series; novels or the videos)

12 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 6:58:16pm

re: #9 Kragar

Just got back from taking my eldest to her birthday dinner. Party is this Saturday.

Next year she becomes a teenager.

and you will, officially, become the most stupid person on the face of the entire earth.

RBS

13 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 6:58:35pm

re: #8 jaunte

Related

CIA’s “Intelligence Art Collection” now on public display

14 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 6:58:47pm

re: #10 Egregious Philbin

“…..You’re Thor? Hell, I’m so Thor I can barely walk!”

(punchline to a great joke)

Damn, I hadn’t heard that one in years and years.

RBS

15 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:00:09pm

16 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:01:04pm

Leg-D’oh!

Official photos of the Lego Simpsons House—one of the best sets ever

Image: original.jpg

17 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:02:16pm

I didn’t know the VC used Bren guns.

18 Kilroy01  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:03:46pm

re: #15 Kragar

Why is a UH-1 shooting down an An-2?

19 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:04:13pm

re: #17 Romantic Heretic

I didn’t know the VC used Bren guns.

The Japanese and Chinese knocked off copies of several top loading machine guns during WWII and for years later

20 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:05:13pm

re: #18 Kilroy01

Why is a UH-1 shooting down an An-2?

Because a CIA helicopter intercepted a North Vietnamese plane and shot it down using only AK-47s

21 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:05:59pm

re: #19 Kragar

Ah. I see.

Personally, I wonder why the Brits dropped the Lewis for the Bren. Only MG better than the Lewis is the MG 34/42.

22 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:06:02pm

Details

On 12 January 1968, four North Vietnamese Air Force AN-2 Colt biplanes lifted off from an airfield in northeastern North Vietnam and headed west toward Laos. The aircraft were on a mission to destroy a US radar base that was guiding bombers in attacks against targets in North Vietnam. Known to the Americans as Site 85, the radar facility was perched atop a 5,800-foothigh mountain, Phou Pha Thi. Manned by US Air Force volunteers “sheepdipped” as employees of the Lockheed Aircraft Corporation, the site had been in operation only a few months. The mountain, used for many years as a staging base for CIA-directed Hmong guerilla fighters and American special operations and rescue helicopters, was only 125 nautical miles from Hanoi. Air America, a CIA-proprietary, provided aerial support for the facility, the technicians, and the security forces.

The Colts reached Site 85 early in the afternoon, and two began bombing and strafing passes as the others circled nearby. Coincidentally, Air America captain Ted Moore, flying a UH-1D Huey helicopter carrying ammunition to the site, saw the attack (“It looked like World War I,” he recalled.) and gave chase to a Colt as it turned back to the Vietnamese border. Moore positioned his helicopter above the biplane, as crewman Glenn Woods fired an AK-47 rifle down on it. The pursuit continued for more than 20 minutes until the second AN-2 flew underneath the helicopter. Dropping back, Moore and Woods watched as the first AN-2 dropped and crashed into a ridge just west of the North Vietnamese border. Minutes later, the second Colt hit the side of a mountain three miles farther north. The other Colts escaped, inactive observers throughout. Within hours a CIA-controlled ground team reached the crashed aircraft and found bullet holes in the downed planes.

In the mists of the Annamite Mountains and part of a secret war, Air America employees Ted Moore and Glenn Woods gained the distinction of having shot down a fixed-wing aircraft from a helicopter, a singular aerial victory in the Vietnam War. Two months later, North Vietnamese commandos attacked and destroyed Site 85, inflicting the deadliest single ground loss of US Air Force personnel of the Vietnam War.

On 27 July 2007, CIA officially received An Air Combat First in an event attended by members of the Air America Board; pilot Ted Moore; Sawang Reed, the wife of flight mechanic Glenn Woods; CIA paramilitary legend Bill Lair; and the donors of the painting, former Air America officers Marius Burke and Boyd D. Mesecher.

23 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:08:51pm

re: #19 Kragar

Actually, Canada built Brens for China in 7.92x57mm Mauser. After the defeat of the Nationalists many such Brens were appropriated by the Communists. From there. Mao passed some former Nationalist arms to the communists of Vietnam.

24 Pie-onist Overlord  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:08:57pm

This is NOT the FreeRepublic parody account. This is the official FreeRepublic account.

25 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:10:01pm

In 1965, Americans were just beginning to realize how badly they’d been misled about the Vietnam War.

26 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:10:09pm

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

Actually, Canada built Brens for China in 7.92x57mm Mauser. After the defeat of the Nationalists many such Brens were appropriated by the Communists. From there. Mao passed some former Nationalist arms to the communists of Vietnam.

In addition to knocking out copies of their own.

27 Kilroy01  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:10:24pm

re: #22 Kragar

Interesting… Helicopter vs biplane.. and the winner is..

28 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:12:53pm

re: #27 Kilroy01

Interesting… Helicopter vs biplane.. and the winner is..

Yea, but what about Tiger vs Helicopter. What then?

RBS

29 Kilroy01  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:13:51pm

re: #28 RealityBasedSteve

Do you have a banana?

30 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:17:05pm

re: #21 Romantic Heretic

Ah. I see.

Personally, I wonder why the Brits dropped the Lewis for the Bren. Only MG better than the Lewis is the MG 34/42.

The Bren’s box magazines were easier to handle and to make compared to the Lewis’s pan/drum mags. Moreover, the Bren was felt to be more accurate and that was important to the British Army at the time.

31 Kilroy01  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:17:09pm

re: #29 Kilroy01
This will help..
Youtube Video

32 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:18:12pm

re: #28 RealityBasedSteve

Yea, but what about Tiger vs Helicopter. What then?

RBS

Modern ATGMs would turn the Mark Vi Tiger into scrap iron.

Winner: Helicopter.

33 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:19:14pm

re: #31 Kilroy01

This will help..
[Embedded content]

Ah…. thanks. Bit slow on the uptake tonight,

RBS

34 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:20:36pm

re: #32 Dark_Falcon

Modern ATGMs would turn the Mark Vi Tiger into scrap iron.

Winner: Helicopter.

yea, but what if it were a flying ninja tiger, with titanium claws… and force beams that it could shoot out of its eyes. What about that tough guy, didn’t think about THAT kind of tiger did you?

RBS

35 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:22:55pm

re: #34 RealityBasedSteve

yea, but what if it were a flying ninja tiger, with titanium claws… and force beams that it could shoot out of its eyes. What about that tough guy, didn’t think about THAT kind of tiger did you?

RBS

Yeah, but I’ve got a magic rock which keeps tigers away, so I win.

36 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:23:25pm

re: #30 Dark_Falcon

The Bren’s box magazines were easier to handle and to make compared to the Lewis’s pan/drum mags. Moreover, the Bren was felt to be more accurate and that was important to the British Army at the time.

I think the Bren was also a shade lighter. And had a quick barrel change capacity as well. The British definitely integrated it well into their infantry formations since each soldier in a squad carried two magazines for it and were also trained to be able to fire it if necessary.

37 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:23:41pm

re: #34 RealityBasedSteve

yea, but what if it were a flying ninja tiger, with titanium claws… and force beams that it could shoot out of its eyes. What about that tough guy, didn’t think about THAT kind of tiger did you?

RBS

SMACK!

38 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:24:07pm

re: #35 Kragar

Yeah, but I’ve got a magic rock which keeps tigers away, so I win.

OK, Lisa.

39 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:24:50pm

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

SMACK!

ROFL. I’ll allow I MIGHT have had that one coming.

RBS

40 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:27:25pm

Doing a little reading, the AN-2 is a pretty freaking amazing plane.

A note from the pilot’s handbook reads: “If the engine quits in instrument conditions or at night, the pilot should pull the control column full aft and keep the wings level. The leading-edge slats will snap out at about 64 km/h (40 mph), and when the airplane slows to a forward speed of about 40 km/h (25 mph), the airplane will sink at about a parachute descent rate until the aircraft hits the ground.” [1] Wikipedia

pretty much anything that could be simplified or made foolproof was done on it.

RBS

41 kirkspencer  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:27:26pm

re: #21 Romantic Heretic

Ah. I see.

Personally, I wonder why the Brits dropped the Lewis for the Bren. Only MG better than the Lewis is the MG 34/42.

From memory so the usual caveats apply…

In WWI the Brits had both the Lewis and the Vickers - a light and a (so-called) medium machine gun. In the interwar period the powers that be decided they wanted a single weapon that would fulfill both roles. The Bren is the weapon they selected.

From what I recall reading the Bren did well enough for replacing the Lewis, but there were things the Vickers did at the heavier end the Bren just didn’t meet. And of course WWII upset the whole plan leaving all three systems in play (plus more later). But that was the basic plan.

42 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:32:35pm

re: #41 kirkspencer

From memory so the usual caveats apply…

In WWI the Brits had both the Lewis and the Vickers - a light and a (so-called) medium machine gun. In the interwar period the powers that be decided they wanted a single weapon that would fulfill both roles. The Bren is the weapon they selected.

From what I recall reading the Bren did well enough for replacing the Lewis, but there were things the Vickers did at the heavier end the Bren just didn’t meet. And of course WWII upset the whole plan leaving all three systems in play (plus more later). But that was the basic plan.

it wasn’t only in the British Empire that the Lewis saw service in WWII. USN small craft still used the Lewis gun during the Guadalcanal campaign. By 1943, however, the Lewis gun’s time in combat had ended.

43 Kilroy01  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:33:38pm

re: #28 RealityBasedSteve
I’d take this kind of Tiger..

Now only if we could add some cyclonic weather event to the name we’d have something.

44 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:35:29pm

re: #43 Kilroy01

I’d take this kind of Tiger..
[Embedded image]

Now only if we could add some cyclonic weather event to the name we’d have something.

yea, because TigerSharkNado is just over the top, and would never be tolerated in the august enclave that is LFG.

RBS

45 kirkspencer  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:36:07pm

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

it wasn’t only in the British Empire that the Lewis saw service in WWII. USN small craft still used the Lewis gun during the Guadalcanal campaign. By 1943, however, the Lewis gun’s time in combat had ended.

The question was why the British replaced the Lewis with the Bren.

As to the US, let us not forget General Crozier and his intense personal dislike of Colonel Lewis - which meant the Ordnance department he was in charge of absolutely refused to approve the Colonel’s machine gun.

46 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:38:09pm

It’s me Bren gun!

Youtube Video

47 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:39:44pm

re: #45 kirkspencer

The question was why the British replaced the Lewis with the Bren.

As to the US, let us not forget General Crozier and his intense personal dislike of Colonel Lewis - which meant the Ordnance department he was in charge of absolutely refused to approve the Colonel’s machine gun.

it is arguable that the Ordinance Department did as much damage to the Army over the past two hundred years as our varied enemies. The cluster f**k surrounding the acceptance of a repeating rifle was only exceeded by the one foisting the M14 on the Army.

48 jaunte  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:41:44pm
49 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:42:41pm

re: #45 kirkspencer

The question was why the British replaced the Lewis with the Bren.

As to the US, let us not forget General Crozier and his intense personal dislike of Colonel Lewis - which meant the Ordnance department he was in charge of absolutely refused to approve the Colonel’s machine gun.

I already addressed that:

re: #30 Dark_Falcon

The Bren’s box magazines were easier to handle and to make compared to the Lewis’s pan/drum mags. Moreover, the Bren was felt to be more accurate and that was important to the British Army at the time.

Keep up, Kirk!

50 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:42:52pm

re: #48 jaunte

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But remember, the GOP and “real Americans” support the troops.

51 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:44:48pm
52 klys  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:47:23pm

re: #51 Kragar

That was …unexpected.

53 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:47:48pm

re: #47 William Barnett-Lewis

it is arguable that the Ordinance Department did as much damage to the Army over the past two hundred years as our varied enemies. The cluster f**k surrounding the acceptance of a repeating rifle was only exceeded by the one foisting the M14 on the Army.

And let us not forget the the stupidity of the M1903’s original cruciform bayonet. That FAIL was only prevented from becoming EPIC because Teddy Roosevelt used the normal sword bayonet attached to a Krag to test the stupid thing. When his strike broke the bayonet Ordinance wanted in two, he made them adopt a conventional bayonet instead.

54 kirkspencer  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:48:04pm

re: #47 William Barnett-Lewis

it is arguable that the Ordinance Department did as much damage to the Army over the past two hundred years as our varied enemies. The cluster f**k surrounding the acceptance of a repeating rifle was only exceeded by the one foisting the M14 on the Army.

On the other hand, Gen Crozier was directly responsible for approving the M1903 rifle, the M1911 pistol, the BAR (M1918), and the M1917 machine gun. More critically he was key in convincing the powers that be that the US military needed to upgrade those (and other) weapons.

And it’s arguable that he had an indirect but critical influence on the effectiveness of systems developed in WWII. He’s the person who got the GANTT charts used by the US arsenals. Say what you will about the problems with those charts, the advantage they created over individual manager opinion and knowledge was significant.

55 kirkspencer  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:49:50pm

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

I already addressed that:

Keep up, Kirk!

No, Dark. You did not address that. The British did not say around 1918, “Oh, we need a more accurate machine gun with a box magazine, so let’s have some trials.” The accuracy and box were reasons they selected the weapon over such alternatives as the BAR but it’s not why they went looking in the first place.

56 jaunte  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:51:50pm
57 Kilroy01  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:54:10pm

re: #47 William Barnett-Lewis

It is sad when the Italians can start at the same place the US did (The M-1 Garand) and come up with something that was so much better.
The BM-59 was a good battle rifle.

58 sagehen  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 7:59:30pm

When I was a kid, one of our dogs ate the neighbor’s goat. To be more precise… he ate half the goat. And left the other half on their front lawn. This was the neighbor girl’s 4H prize-winning, super-special goat, that she’d become so attached she didn’t sell it at the fair like the rest of the 4H’s did with their goats… neighbor girl and her father were of course very upset.

The next day our dog was gone. Dad told us he’d given it to the Army, and it was going to Vietnam to be a soldier dog. In hindsight… I think my father might have lied to us.

(another of our dogs chased goat-girl’s brother up a tree. And yet another killed and ate two of another neighbor’s chickens. I swear we fed the dogs, every day. Kibble and canned. None of them ever frightened me, at all, they were sweet and cuddly and very tolerant german shepherds who didn’t even mind when I’d ride them like ponies. But now I think about it, I’m starting to get suspicious that it wasn’t really a coyote that killed my miniature poodle.)

ETA: I bring this up here and now, because the dog’s name was Thor. So it’s not a total non sequitur.

59 palomino  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:03:54pm

re: #7 Kragar

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Fischer’s tweet represents the type of simplistic black and white thinking one sees so much of in the TP. Fischer’s “logic”: if something doesn’t rank at the top of a Gallup poll, that means Congress should ignore it. Makes perfect sense, if you don’t think about it.

I doubt if he would apply such a standard to any federal legislation (or Constitutional amendment) banning same sex marriage or abortion or pot or anything else he doesn’t like. Most of those issues aren’t near the top of that poll either.

Fact is, most Americans support some kind of immigration reform. And Congress has to deal with issues each day that don’t make the top of a Gallup poll.

60 darthstar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:03:59pm

I really should just start a fuckin’ blog for this story and commit to serializing it based on the news reports. I just worry it’ll cut into my work and to be honest, I’d rather take home a paycheck.

61 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:04:43pm

re: #54 kirkspencer

On the other hand, Gen Crozier was directly responsible for approving the M1903 rifle, the M1911 pistol, the BAR (M1918), and the M1917 machine gun. More critically he was key in convincing the powers that be that the US military needed to upgrade those (and other) weapons.

And it’s arguable that he had an indirect but critical influence on the effectiveness of systems developed in WWII. He’s the person who got the GANTT charts used by the US arsenals. Say what you will about the problems with those charts, the advantage they created over individual manager opinion and knowledge was significant.

Gen. Crozier hated Lewis, but he held John Browning in high regard.

62 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:08:17pm

re: #54 kirkspencer

On the other hand, Gen Crozier was directly responsible for approving the M1903 rifle, the M1911 pistol, the BAR (M1918), and the M1917 machine gun. More critically he was key in convincing the powers that be that the US military needed to upgrade those (and other) weapons.

And it’s arguable that he had an indirect but critical influence on the effectiveness of systems developed in WWII. He’s the person who got the GANTT charts used by the US arsenals. Say what you will about the problems with those charts, the advantage they created over individual manager opinion and knowledge was significant.

The 1903 was championed by the President and was a Mauser in all but name and a few changes for the worse (The M1917 was an even better rifle and should have replaced the 1903 after the war) & the failure of the .30-06 version of the Chauchat (the original was actually a reasonable weapon but the US failed to understand critical differences between rimmed and rimless cartridge shapes…) made the 1917 so critically necessary that had little choice but to adopt it. I can grant the 1911. “Hatcher’s Notebook” by Marion Hatchet has good info on many of the problems of early MG’s and the US Army.

I had not heard about the GANTT charts before (or had forgotten if I did). That was probably a very good thing that kept the nightmare of WWI arms production from being even worse than it was.

63 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:10:22pm

re: #57 Kilroy01

It is sad when the Italians can start at the same place the US did (The M-1 Garand) and come up with something that was so much better.
The BM-59 was a good battle rifle.
[Embedded image]

I keep thinking about buying a Garand receiver to make a semi-auto BM-59 on. But other things keep coming up - like the $700 I’ll need for the new production S&W Model 66 just announced the other day ;)

64 RealityBasedSteve  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:20:07pm

Well gang, I’m off to bed. Catch you all later.

Not gonna happen.

RBS

65 Single-handed sailor  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:23:56pm

Some of those water tanks with fresh drinking water in WV may have been filled at the contaminated Charleston water plant.

Charleston Daily Mail

66 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:28:12pm

Back to paintings, I’ve got a print of this hanging in my living room


The Last Night OF THE War
5th MARINES ON THE NIGHT
OF 10-11 NOVEMBER 1918

67 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:28:22pm

And since the BAR has come up, let’s take a look at two BAR semi-auto replicas from Ohio Ordinance Works:

Classic

Image: 650x433xIMG_4249.jpg.pagespeed.ic.w9u9QAcvx3.jpg

Tacti-Cool

Image: 650x433xIMG_4245.jpg.pagespeed.ic.qCH11WA-JB.jpg

Full article here.

68 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:30:28pm

re: #64 RealityBasedSteve

Well gang, I’m off to bed. Catch you all later.

Not gonna happen.

RBS

I don’t care what you say about nice warm water˜

69 Just never mind.  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:30:55pm

Hola folks

70 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:33:55pm

re: #69 Just never mind.

Hey Lady! See that moon again tonight? Wow. From my place it had that reddish tint from a horror movie thing going on.

71 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:35:12pm

re: #67 Dark_Falcon

And since the BAR has come up, let’s take a look at two BAR semi-auto replicas from Ohio Ordinance Works:

Classic

Image: 650x433xIMG_4249.jpg.pagespeed.ic.w9u9QAcvx3.jpg

Tacti-Cool

Image: 650x433xIMG_4245.jpg.pagespeed.ic.qCH11WA-JB.jpg

Full article here.

Do they make a belt with the steel cup for the butt of the stock for marching fire?

72 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:35:39pm

re: #69 Just never mind.

Hola folks

Hello! How are things out west?

73 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:37:46pm

re: #7 Kragar


WOW. looks like Bryan still has a case of slamming the door on his own face disease. What should we expect from someone who thinks anonymous emails are compelling sources and that the Bible is literally one hundred percent true, including the part about the talking snake.

74 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:39:14pm

re: #71 William Barnett-Lewis

Do they make a belt with the steel cup for the butt of the stock for marching fire?

The classic is modeled after the M1918A2, so I’d have to say ‘no’.

[kidding]You could probably have a belt like that made, but that accessory was a very French idea. Wearing it would put your status as a Real American in jeopardy. You’d probably be labeled a Euro-Socialist.[/kidding]

75 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:41:55pm

re: #74 Dark_Falcon

The classic is modeled after the M1918A2, so I’d have to say ‘no’.

[kidding]You could probably have a belt like that made, but that accessory was a very French idea. Wearing it would put your status as a Real American in jeopardy. You’d probably be labeled a Euro-Socialist.[/kidding]

I’ll show my “real American” status by getting a nice S&W K-frame .357 Magnum. smith-wesson.com

76 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:42:00pm

OT For those folks who are customers of JC Penney check this list to see if your local store is closing. littlegreenfootballs.com

77 Gus  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:43:43pm


Derp.

78 Single-handed sailor  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:45:18pm

re: #76 PhillyPretzel

OT For those folks who are customers of JC Penney check this list to see if your local store is closing. littlegreenfootballs.com

It looks like they are running away from Wisconsin with 5 stores closing.

79 The War TARDIS  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:46:34pm

re: #78 Single-handed sailor

Colorado Springs continues its slow spiral.

They are leaving Chapel Hills Mall

80 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:46:43pm

re: #78 Single-handed sailor

Yes. They are only closing 3 stores in PA. Exton Mall is the closest one to my area that is on this list.

81 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:46:44pm

Sweet dreams, all.

82 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:49:15pm

Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

83 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 8:59:56pm

re: #78 Single-handed sailor

It looks like they are running away from Wisconsin with 5 stores closing.

Only two in Illinois and neither of them near me.

84 darthstar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 9:06:34pm
85 darthstar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 9:07:44pm
86 dell*nix  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 9:08:40pm

re: #22 Kragar

Downed AN-2 on display in Vientiane.

flickr.com

87 darthstar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 9:21:05pm

NARRATIVE SHIFT! NARRATIVE SHIFT! NARRATIVE SHIFT! NARRATIVE SHIFT! NARRATIVE SHIFT! NARRATIVE SHIFT! NARRATIVE SHIFT! NARRATIVE SHIFT!

88 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 9:24:06pm

Evening lizards!

Shiplord Kirel’s page about Gummy Bears has me crying with laughter. It’s been a heck of a week so far. I needed that.

89 Aunty Entity Dragon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 9:30:55pm

re: #2 RealityBasedSteve

And it looks like the NVA soldier on the left side of the page is about to drop a round into the mortar wrong end first.

RBS

Yeah, I was wondering about that…

90 Aunty Entity Dragon  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 9:33:54pm

re: #18 Kilroy01

Why is a UH-1 shooting down an An-2?

Because they are noisy as hell and keep waking up the helicopter groundcrew.

Well, you asked. And AN-2 Colts are really effing loud as hell…

Kinda subverts that whole Nork spec ops covert insertion role they supposedly have.

91 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 9:46:24pm

So Mr Harvey Weinstein (co founder Miramax) wants to do a piece on the NRA.
Popcorn on so many levels! I think Leftwingconspirator will Page something later. That and our 2 Lizard review of Lone Survivor. We watched F&F 6, and well maybe the less said there the better.

Mornin comes early.
Good Night all

92 Kragar  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 10:24:07pm

Finally had a color scheme come together on a project I had tabled for about a year.

93 freetoken  Thu, Jan 16, 2014 11:41:52pm

MP3 Audio

94 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 2:11:39am

The lives Snowden & his cohorts have put at risk is criminal. The FSB would like nothing better than to know how Britain’s security forces work, just as they do those of the US. The reasons for the theft from the NSA go far deeper than the purported “privacy issues” Greensnow & Co are claiming to be so concerned about.

In response to The Guardian story linked below.

Hague: No evidence of communication breaches

itv.com

“Foreign Secretary William Hague has insisted that he has seen no evidence of breaches in the UK’s protection of individuals’ communications, following reports that British spies are able to look at texts.

“The allegations, resulting from the latest leaks by whistleblower Edward Snowden, suggest a secret database created by the US National Security Agency collects nearly 200 million texts every day from around the world. “

NSA collects millions of text messages daily in ‘untargeted’ global sweep

theguardian.com

“It is a longstanding policy that we do not comment on intelligence matters,” he said. “Furthermore, all of GCHQ’s work is carried out in accordance with a strict legal and policy framework which ensures that our activities are authorised, necessary and proportionate, and that there is rigorous oversight, including from the Secretary of State, the Interception and Intelligence Services Commissioners and the Parliamentary Intelligence and Security Committee.”

“GCHQ also directed the Guardian towards a statement made to the House of Commons in June 2013 by foreign secretary William Hague, in response to revelations of the agency’s use of the Prism program.

“Any data obtained by us from the US involving UK nationals is subject to proper UK statutory controls and safeguards, including the relevant sections of the Intelligence Services Act, the Human Rights Act and the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act,” Hague told MPs.”

95 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 3:17:57am

Whatever he does won’t be enough for Greensnow & Co. You just know it.

Exclusive: Obama to announce overhaul to controversial NSA program

reuters.com

“In an 11 a.m. (1600 GMT) speech at the Justice Department, Obama will say he is ordering a transition that will significantly change the handling of what is known as the telephone “metadata” program from the way the NSA currently handles it.

(snip)

“In a nod to privacy advocates, Obama will say he has decided that the government should not hold the bulk telephone metadata, a decision that could frustrate some intelligence officials.

(snip)

“Obama has asked Attorney General Eric Holder and the intelligence community to report back to him before the program comes up for reauthorization on March 28 on how to preserve the necessary capabilities of the program, without the government holding the metadata.”

96 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:04:07am

To paraphrase: You gotta admit, I played this stinking city state like a harp from Hell!

Image: 250px-ThePenguinDannyDevito.jpg

Imagining Chris Christie, in a private conservation with his childhood friend and inside source at the Port Authority, David Wildstein.

97 aagcobb  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:10:45am

re: #78 Single-handed sailor

It looks like they are running away from Wisconsin with 5 stores closing.

Unpossible! Scott Walker has made Wisconsin a business paradise!

98 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:12:58am

Hiroo Onada, a holdout of the Imperial Japanese Army - who finally laid down his arms in 1974 at the orders of his commanding officer, and had fought a 29-year campaign in the Philippines - has died at the age of 91 in Tokyo.

bbc.co.uk

99 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:21:59am

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

On one hand, we can see him as a hero for never giving up and maintaining his code of honor at all costs, but on the other hand, the code itself he was upholding, Bushido, is total horseshit.

I have a similar view of individual Confederate soldiers who volunteered to fight for what they thought was right, although the entire idea and ideology of the Confederacy was also nonsense.

100 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:26:44am

re: #99 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

On one hand, we can see him as a hero for never giving up and maintaining his code of honor at all costs, but on the other hand, the code itself he was upholding, Bushido, is total horseshit.

I have a similar view of individual Confederate soldiers who volunteered to fight for what they thought was right, although the entire idea and ideology of the Confederacy was also nonsense.

Yep. He also killed 30 people during his 29 years of holding out, though the Philippines government gave him a pardon on that.

101 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:27:15am

Remember “We Support Phil”? Yeah, about that…

Ratings Plummet For ‘Duck Dynasty’ Season Premiere After Star’s Gay-Bashing Interview

As it turns out, a national controversy sparked by racist and homophobic remarks doesn’t necessarily result in a ratings boost for a television show. Who knew?

Many speculated that “Duck Dynasty,” A&E’s hit reality series about a family of swamp millionaires who made their fortune off duck calls, would draw even more viewers after one of the show’s stars, Phil Robertson, made headlines last month for railing against “homosexual offenders,” “Shintos” and “Islamists” in a wild interview with GQ.

But rather than a ratings spike, viewership for the show’s season five premiere actually dipped considerably. Wednesday’s premiere drew 8.5 million viewers, down 28 percent from the season four premiere last August.

102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:31:51am

re: #100 Dr Lizardo

Yep. He also killed 30 people during his 29 years of holding out, though the Philippines government gave him a pardon on that.

That is part of the stupidity of it all. Like Andersonville or the Fort PIllow Massacre in the Civil War.

103 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:32:31am

re: #101 Targetpractice

Remember “We Support Phil”? Yeah, about that…

Ratings Plummet For ‘Duck Dynasty’ Season Premiere After Star’s Gay-Bashing Interview

The First Amendment includes the right to undiminished ratings!!!

/

104 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:32:54am

re: #101 Targetpractice

Remember “We Support Phil”? Yeah, about that…

Ratings Plummet For ‘Duck Dynasty’ Season Premiere After Star’s Gay-Bashing Interview

To put it in even more perspective:

Or .0296% of the population (assuming 315M).

There have to be diminishing returns on these kinds of shows.

105 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:35:31am

HURR HURR!!!

106 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:35:54am

Either the “Support Phil” crowd didn’t all tune in, or A&E was right in assuming that Phil’s BS would hurt their ratings. Either way, they were planning on something close to 14m viewers for the premiere, and they managed 8.5m. Somebody upstairs is gonna want answers on how they fell that far off the mark.

107 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:36:07am

HURR HURR SNOWDEN!!11!!!!! is the Dudebro’s BENGHAZI!!!11!!!!

108 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:37:07am

This is sweet.

109 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:41:23am

re: #106 Targetpractice

Either the “Support Phil” crowd didn’t all tune in, or A&E was right in assuming that Phil’s BS would hurt their ratings. Either way, they were planning on something close to 14m viewers for the premiere, and they managed 8.5m. Somebody upstairs is gonna want answers on how they fell that far off the mark.

It goes to show how influential the Gay Lobby is in America, they have intimidated individual viewers all across the country and prevented them from showing their support for those with the courage to stand up and speak the Word of God.

/

110 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:46:50am

re: #105 Pie-onist Overlord

Such a journalist! First link (to alleged quote, taken out of context) to a HuffPo puff piece/book review of “Double Down”. I didn’t check the others after that one.

Yeah, that’s real journalism. ///

111 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:52:01am

Koch Brothers are at it again.
15 Ways To Help The Unemployed Get Back To Work.
They forgot #16: WORK FOR NO PAY!!!!!

Think how many Jrrbz teh Jrrb Creeyaters could creeyate if they didn’t have to pay the workers!!!!!

112 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 4:55:16am

re: #111 Pie-onist Overlord

“finance long-term infrastructure projects” is actually one I can agree with, but I assume they mean more pipelines.

113 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 5:00:44am

“Short term capital gains tax breaks” How TF does that help poor people?

114 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 5:01:57am

“Increase high-skill immigration” SO WE CAN REPLACE ALL YOU ENGINEERS & TECH WORKERS WITH CHINESE AND INDIANS1!!!!!!!1

115 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 5:03:21am

re: #113 Pie-onist Overlord

“Short term capital gains tax breaks” How TF does that help poor people?

More money to invest in Chinese factories so there are more cheap goods for them to buy at Wal-Mart.

116 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 5:03:23am

Let’s play who wants to meet the CEO doesn’t play in China.

Apple’s Latest Foray Into China Gets a Weak Response

nytimes.com

“Analysts said that Apple could probably broaden its potential market in China by making phones with features that appeal more to Chinese consumers, like bigger screens. Handsets like the Samsung Note 3, which has a 5.7-inch screen, compared with the 4-inch screen of the Apple 5S and 5C, have been selling well in China.

“In his appearance at the China Mobile store in Beijing, the Apple chief told shoppers and reporters that “today is just the beginning of China Mobile and Apple coming together to deliver the best experience in the world.”

“We never talk about future things,” Mr. Cook said. “We have great things we are working on but we want to keep them secret. That way you will be so much happier when you see it.”

WTF? “We never talk about future things”? Obviously, Cook has never experienced anticipation? That’s a great deal of the fun.

117 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 5:05:51am

re: #111 Pie-onist Overlord

Koch Brothers are at it again.
15 Ways To Help The Unemployed Get Back To Work.
They forgot #16: WORK FOR NO PAY!!!!!

Think how many Jrrbz teh Jrrb Creeyaters could creeyate if they didn’t have to pay the workers!!!!!

#17: Chain workers to machines and desks.

118 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 5:12:24am

#18: America’s entire workforce lines up every morning outside the Home Depot, managers come with trucks and buses and hire them as day laborers on an hourly basis.

119 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 5:29:16am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

“finance long-term infrastructure projects” is actually one I can agree with, but I assume they mean more pipelines.

At a glance, the argument really does seem to be that infrastructure in terms of repairing/expanding roads and such, something that economists like Krugman have said would lead to significant job growth, is what should be the goal.

120 Flounder  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 5:32:40am

If you need a laugh:
littlegreenfootballs.com
I have tears in my eyes.

121 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 5:35:37am

re: #111 Pie-onist Overlord

Right-To-Work Laws! Of course. Because unions increase the cost of employment!

Also, that infographic is about the most piss-poor excuse for an infographic I’ve seen in quite a while. Why not list all the items below in text so you don’t have to mouse over every one?

122 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 5:37:53am

In the end, employers want to maintain a certain threshold level of unemployment so they have the leverage to browbeat their employees into accepting lower wages and benefits

123 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 5:40:08am

re: #121 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Right-To-Work Laws! Of course. Because unions increase the cost of employment!

Also, that infographic is about the most piss-poor excuse for an infographic I’ve seen in quite a while. Why not list all the items below in text so you don’t have to mouse over every one?

Because it was made by an intern who is working for nothing.

124 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 5:53:31am

Well I’d guess maybe Charles and surely east valley Lizards are awake. Just had a lil wiggle from the earth. 2.6, but the epicenter was zero miles deep and well under a mile from my home. Felt that P wave, heard a boom and then nothing.

125 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 5:53:49am

Charles, you will love this retweet by GG. Not surprising that they have to go back to 2010 to find a USA Today report of a case they liked, though and Brown isn’t a military employee or any kind of govt employee, either. He’s just a run of the mill criminal.

126 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 5:58:57am

Trying to drum up more hysteria, GG links to a Buzzfeed article (Buzzfeed, for chrissakes) that quotes third- and fouth-hand about what someone allegedly said over at the NSA.


“There is no indication that the United States has sought to take vengeance on Snowden, who is living in an undisclosed location in Russia without visible security measures, according to a recent Washington Post interview. And the intelligence operators who spoke to BuzzFeed on the condition of anonymity did not say they expected anyone to act on their desire for revenge. But their mood is widespread, people who regularly work with the intelligence community said.”

What fucking “intelligence operators” would talk to an internet gossip rag? Even “anonymously”?

127 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:00:09am

20th anniversary of Northridge quake and we get a reminder from nature. Heh, what are the odds? Exclusive damage photo ///

2.6 on the 20th anniversary of Northridge

128 geoffm33  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:03:48am

Long story…

Interesting night last night. 2:30 AM the house alarm starts going off. I run downstairs in boxer shorts and my home security device (15” mag light, doesn’t work a lick, but would hurt like hell). Check the whole house before trying to turn off the alarm.

Enter my work security code and it stops the alarm for a brief second and the phone rings (it’s ADT). My code gets rejected and alarm starts blaring again cutting out the phone and hanging up on ADT. Get the right code in and the alarm goes off.

Security panel indicates that the break glass alarm in the basement triggered it. I go back down (I already checked the windows down there) to investigate. I find shards of brown glass and the distinct smell of beer!

I (as a homebrewer) had two cases of beer bottle conditioning (aka carbonating) and 8 of them exploded into thousands of pieces. This can happen with degraded bottles, over carbonation or an infection.

I start cleaning up and the phone rings, it’s my father in law. He’s the backup when ADT can’t get a hold of me. Told him everything is fine and we laugh about it. Then I realize that the police are on there way since ADT couldn’t reach me.

Get dressed in a hurry and the door bell rings. Officers were great for 3am and they laughed a little at my story. Took me about an hour to clean up and put the rest of the unexploded bottles into a cooler with the lid shut just in case.

129 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:06:02am

re: #91 Political Atheist

So Mr Harvey Weinstein (co founder Miramax) wants to do a piece on the NRA.
Popcorn on so many levels! I think Leftwingconspirator will Page something later. That and our 2 Lizard review of Lone Survivor. We watched F&F 6, and well maybe the less said there the better.

Mornin comes early.
Good Night all

Good Morning!

The bit about Weinstein doing a movie on the NRA should really light this blog/forum (hybrid of Charles great coding and function design) up big time. I’ve been sort of amazed how many threads lately have gone into ‘romancing the gun’ mode as of late. Boom.

Outside that…what is trending today? Michelle Obama turning 50? Crisp Christie? Another cold dump on the eastern half of the US?

I know one thing…stupidity in tweets are always popular. As far as tweets, I give the members here credit for being able to wade through all that without tossing your smartphones, tablets, laptops or PCs out the window in a fit of frustration. I admit they drive me nuts just scrolling through these pages. But hey, at least I don’t have to put the waders on when others are going in and doing the dirty work!

Here is to a good Friday for everyone. Keep up the good fight.

130 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:06:22am

re: #127 Political Atheist

20th anniversary of Northridge quake and we get a reminder from nature. Heh, what are the odds? Exclusive damage photo

2.6 on the 20th anniversary of Northridge

I imagine Northridge is in the right coordinates for another one. Co-active faulting?

data.scec.org

131 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:08:58am

re: #101 Targetpractice

Remember “We Support Phil”? Yeah, about that…

Ratings Plummet For ‘Duck Dynasty’ Season Premiere After Star’s Gay-Bashing Interview

Well, that oughta learn ‘em!

/

132 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:11:55am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Greenwald’s dudebros and the master Dude himself are busy crowing about how the President has bowed to their collective will and is moving to eliminate collecting metadata.

Ummm… okay.

Sounds great in theory, up until the next terror attack is shown to be preventable had the NSA been able to use its metadata collection techniques to connect the dots (the reason that the NSA was involved in this in the first place).

Then, there’s hysteria about how the NSA is collecting hundreds of millions of text messages worldwide daily.

Note that word - worldwide. Not US citizens. Worldwide. They’re targeting people who aren’t Americans. Overseas. In other words, nothing illegal about any of this. Moreover, in the context of the British spying on their own using NSA data, they’re required to obtain warrants to access the information.

Meanwhile, it looks like it was Russian hackers who were behind the Target data breach, and they managed to penetrate Target computer systems and then placed the malicious code on the POS machines throughout the company’s stores and then were able to recover the customer data (CC/DC, PINs, etc.) at their leisure.

133 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:11:56am

re: #129 ObserverArt

Good morning. The NRA has become a big part of the problem. This should be fun to watch unfold.

134 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:12:34am

re: #108 Pie-onist Overlord

This is sweet.

Houston MayorParker weds longtime partner in PalmSprings lgbtqnation.com … Congrats @anniseparker! #UniteBlue

Yes it is. And the fact that she is the Mayor of a huge city in Texas makes it even sweeter.

135 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:17:10am

Here come the subpoenas.

Subpoenas have been issued in the #GWBVendetta and they include key officials at the Port Authority and within the Christie Administration.

Among those issued subpoenas, according to a source: Christie’s former Deputy Chief of Staff Bridget Anne Kelly and his former campaign manager Bill Stepien, as well as spokesman Michael Drewniak, Director of Communications Maria Comella, chief counsel Charles McKenna, Chief of Staff Kevin O’Dowd and director of the authorities unit Regina Egea. Port Authority Executive Director Patrick Foye, a New York appointee, was also issued a subpoena along with several other agency officials. The governor was not on the list of 17 individuals and three organizations.

According to legislative officials, the full list wont be known and publicly revealed until all the subpoenas are delivered.

136 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:21:45am

re: #133 Political Atheist

Good morning. The NRA has become a big part of the problem. This should be fun to watch unfold.

Yep, big time. And as I said, it will be great for discussion here, And since I use LGF as a clearing house on political stuff I expect the Little Green Lizards to provide pretty good coverage of it all.

I wonder if it is already in the works. It seems odd he would mention it if it wasn’t at least started and all funding sort of in place. To announce something this politically hot and not have some backing could be riscky and tank a project like that before it even got rolling.

And I am already thinking of who could play good ol’ Wayne LaPierre.

137 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:27:59am

“We told you so!”

Romneyworld buzzes over Chris Christie troubles

“Rom-denfreude (noun) — The pleasure Mitt Romney loyalists are taking in the struggles of Chris Christie.

“The condition is prevalent, stemming from a range of perceived Christie slights towards Romney during the 2012 campaign, which several Romney loyalists ticked off quickly — and with still-evident bitterness.

“There was the New Jersey governor’s barring Romney from raising money in the Garden State, his unwillingness to answer vice presidential vetting questions and his highly autobiographical convention keynote speech. Most of all, though, Romney allies remain resentful of Christie’s embrace of President Barack Obama as the two worked together on Superstorm Sandy relief in the waning days of the campaign, which Romney backers believe boosted Obama’s bipartisan bona fides and cost Romney valuable swing votes.”

Read more: politico.com

138 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:29:34am

re: #136 ObserverArt

Harvey simply does not face the obstacles to movie making that others do. He can easily fund it as a documentary out of his change drawer. Hollywood not get behind an anti gun / anti NRA moment? Unpossible.

The question is will it be on point and straight or over the top histrionic. If he overplays it as seems quite possible it won’t help his cause. If he plays it more 60 minutes than Michael Moore, we could all be better off.

139 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:33:25am

This is just awful. I understand this boy, missing for 3 mos, was autistic as well.

Connection to Missing Teen Probed After Human Arm, Legs Found in East River in Queens

politicalgates.blogspot.com

140 darthstar  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:36:59am
141 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:37:39am

re: #129 ObserverArt

I’ve been sort of amazed how many threads lately have gone into ‘romancing the gun’ mode as of late.

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one. About half the time I’m scrolling past series of random letters and numbers that mean absolutely nothing to me (AR-15, BAR, Brin, AK-47, .306, .44, etc.).

142 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:49:03am
143 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:49:05am

re: #136 ObserverArt

Hmmm, Wayne LaPierre. Casting Central sez

144 darthstar  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:49:43am

Wildstein is asking for immunity…again. Begging is so unbecoming, but having 16 competitors for the idol changes the strategy.

145 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:52:29am

re: #144 darthstar

Wildstein is asking for immunity…again. Begging is so unbecoming, but having 16 competitors for the idol changes the strategy.

[Embedded content]

I think Bridget Kelly should get immunity first. Fuck Wildstein.

146 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:53:30am

HURR HURR!!!!11!!!

147 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:54:36am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

It goes to show how influential the Gay Lobby is in America, they have intimidated individual viewers all across the country and prevented them from showing their support for those with the courage to stand up and speak the Word of God.

/

They declared a “Code Pink” on the show?!?
//

148 BongCrodny  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:55:49am

re: #137 Justanotherhuman

“We told you so!”

Romneyworld buzzes over Chris Christie troubles

Obama beat Romney 58%-41% in a state Christie won the next year by 22%. No amount of “swing votes” was going to help Romney.

Mitt’s a dick, and that recent story (if true) about him going all frat boy when it comes to overweight people makes me really glad we didn’t get stuck with him for four years.

Not Presidential material.

149 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:56:23am

re: #147 Feline Fearless Leader

They declared a “Code Pink” on the show?!?
//

The Gay Mulla called a for a fag-wa on A&E.

150 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:57:07am

re: #146 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!11!!!

[Embedded content]

Sometimes they are just slightly more subtle…
Looks like a familiar style…

Yep, there’s the original

RBS

151 Ryan King  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:57:36am

re: #146 Pie-onist Overlord

Nothing says ‘I’m a petulant moron who can’t cope with the real world’ like an Obama/Hitler photoshop job.

152 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 6:58:26am

re: #150 RealityBasedSteve

Sometimes they are just slightly more subtle…
Looks like a familiar style…

Yep, there’s the original

RBS

That’s better Photoshop skillz than they normally have.

153 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:00:03am

re: #152 Pie-onist Overlord

That’s better Photoshop skillz than they normally have.

That’s because the background (grass) is definitely not the same. Even though they added the rock.

154 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:02:46am

re: #116 Justanotherhuman

Let’s play who wants to meet the CEO doesn’t play in China.

Apple’s Latest Foray Into China Gets a Weak Response

nytimes.com

“Analysts said that Apple could probably broaden its potential market in China by making phones with features that appeal more to Chinese consumers, like bigger screens. Handsets like the Samsung Note 3, which has a 5.7-inch screen, compared with the 4-inch screen of the Apple 5S and 5C, have been selling well in China.

“In his appearance at the China Mobile store in Beijing, the Apple chief told shoppers and reporters that “today is just the beginning of China Mobile and Apple coming together to deliver the best experience in the world.”

“We never talk about future things,” Mr. Cook said. “We have great things we are working on but we want to keep them secret. That way you will be so much happier when you see it.”

WTF? “We never talk about future things”? Obviously, Cook has never experienced anticipation? That’s a great deal of the fun.

Cook juts does not have the crowd handling skills that Jobs did. What kind of lame statement is this: “We never talk about future things.”?

Chinese who want the panache of iPhone will shell out the money to buy one. But Samsung runs a close second in the panache department., and their phones are damned good It’s like the Buick to Apple’s Cadillac. XiaoMi, a Chinese Android phone maker, is gaining ground against Samsung and Apple by offering something almost as good for about US$200 — or less. Maybe it’s the Oldsmobile. (Yeah, I know GM doesn’t make them anymore, but you get my drift.)

Cook needs to offer the audience something more than vague promises of cool stuff that will make you “so much happier.”

[To be fair, I own a XiaoMi 1s. It’s not bad, but the second generation handset is better.]

155 Ryan King  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:03:01am

#tcot is quite an interesting little tempest. It appears the goal is a never ending ‘Hey Look At Me!’ circle jerk that can be acknowledged as some relevant victory.

156 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:03:02am

Godwinners gotta Godwin…

157 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:04:51am

re: #153 Justanotherhuman

That’s because the background (grass) is definitely not the same. Even though they added the rock.

Looks like they cut the figures of the kids from the original graphic and dropped it on a new background. Still better than the Photoshop crap they usually do.

158 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:06:01am

re: #144 darthstar

It’s going to be a race to the prosecutors to see who’s going to spill the beans first - and for what in exchange.

Wildstein’s going to have the early lead since he was the first to be called before the Assembly Committee investigating the whole matter.

Kelly’s got to appear, as should Baroni and Samson.

That sound you hear is the sound of the 5th being taken by all of the above. And that next sound is the sound of their lawyers working with prosecutors/investigators on cutting deals.

159 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:07:27am

HURR HURR!!!!1!!!

160 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:07:40am

I don’t blame them. I’m not a fan of blood lust and vindictiveness by the State. It taints everyone.

Family to file lawsuit after troubled execution

dispatch.com

161 darthstar  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:07:53am

re: #145 Justanotherhuman

I think Bridget Kelly should get immunity first. Fuck Wildstein.

The smart move would be to secure immunity for testifying and then sell exclusive rights to the story to a tabloid since you’ll need a little extra cash as you start another career in a different social circle.

I’m surprised there haven’t been any leaks yet. That’s another play to get attention away from oneself. Leak a doc with Christie’s name on it.

162 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:11:04am

re: #157 Pie-onist Overlord

Looks like they cut the figures of the kids from the original graphic and dropped it on a new background. Still better than the Photoshop crap they usually do.

Yep, that is what they did, and they did a good job. Probably a decent graphic artist. And they did all the little things needed to make it believable with no noticeable cut and past marks. And oh yeah, they used Photoshop or another good photo/image manipulation software…and not MS paint!

I’ve done some extensive shops and sometimes I will crank out something quick to get it into the conversation or topic…like my Ghomert with plumbing yesterday, I wanted to get the immediate joke and not spend a ton of time.

163 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:11:05am

re: #101 Targetpractice

Remember “We Support Phil”? Yeah, about that…

Ratings Plummet For ‘Duck Dynasty’ Season Premiere After Star’s Gay-Bashing Interview

Most people watching Duck Dynasty watch it for escapist entertainment. They are not watching to hear political, religious, cultural or sociological commentary from the main characters/actors/hosts (or whatever you call them). Phil Robertson may have just shot himself in the foot (pun intended) by spouting off all that BS about gays, teenage brides and God God God. Too damned serious, Phil! Your viewers want to hear about huntin’ ducks ‘n’ deer ‘n’ stuff. They can flip over to Pat Robertson for all that pulpit thumpin’ stuff, or just wait till Wednesday evening or Sunday morning church.

164 ericblair  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:12:11am

re: #132 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Greenwald’s dudebros and the master Dude himself are busy crowing about how the President has bowed to their collective will and is moving to eliminate collecting metadata.

So they’ll thank Obama for his clearsighted willingness to change Federal policy on this, stop attacking him, and move on to other civil rights matters?

Didn’t think so.

165 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:14:21am

re: #161 darthstar

The smart move would be to secure immunity for testifying and then sell exclusive rights to the story to a tabloid since you’ll need a little extra cash as you start another career in a different social circle.

I’m surprised there haven’t been any leaks yet. That’s another play to get attention away from oneself. Leak a doc with Christie’s name on it.

I think perhaps Kelly may have learned a first hand lesson about being a “good Catholic girl” and following orders. I don’t think it was her idea, even if she was fired and no one else was; she just went along because she thought it was how the game was played. Wildstein very cleverly left his job in late fall. Kelly has 4 kids—how does she think this is going to play out as she struggles to provide for them? She is tainted goods now, and will have to do a lot of rehab to her professional ethics image and NJ’s view of her.

166 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:14:21am

re: #160 Justanotherhuman

I don’t blame them. I’m not a fan of blood lust and vindictiveness by the State. It taints everyone.

Family to file lawsuit after troubled execution

dispatch.com

That’s a big story here in Ohio’s Capitol City today. Maybe it will give pause to a few, and I am sure others will be all “so what, let me at the son-of-gun, I’ll do it with my damn hands!”

167 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:15:06am
168 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:16:22am

HURR HURR!!!1!!!

169 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:17:05am

Sirota keeps pimping his blog post.

170 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:17:50am

HURR HURR!!!!1!!!!

171 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:20:11am

re: #162 ObserverArt

Yep, that is what they did, and they did a good job. Probably a decent graphic artist. And they did all the little things needed to make it believable with no noticeable cut and past marks. And oh yeah, they used Photoshop or another good photo/image manipulation software…and not MS paint!

I’ve done some extensive shops and sometimes I will crank out something quick to get it into the conversation or topic…like my Ghomert with plumbing yesterday, I wanted to get the immediate joke and not spend a ton of time.

There’s a guy named Zac McFlimby who ‘shops some pretty good stuff. You probably know who I mean, but I just found about him yesterday after a Facebook friend posted a probably bogus story about a granny packing heat and chasing four guys out what she thought was HER car. (It was theirs, same make, model and color as hers.)

Anyway, the photo was of Queen Elizabeth II behind the wheel of a car holding an automatic handgun (with suppressor!) in her right hand, looking mean and tough. On the rearview mirror is McFlimby’s watermark. Had me fooled till I spotted it.
Image: the-queen.jpg

172 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:20:22am

re: #165 Justanotherhuman

I think perhaps Kelly may have learned a first hand lesson about being a “good Catholic girl” and following orders. I don’t think it was her idea, even if she was fired and no one else was; she just went along because she thought it was how the game was played. Wildstein very cleverly left his job in late fall. Kelly has 4 kids—how does she think this is going to play out as she struggles to provide for them? She is tainted goods now, and will have to do a lot of rehab to her professional ethics image and NJ’s view of her.

Would it surprise you or any others if she was being paid off very well to weather the storm? I have a feeling Christie can be an ass, but I also think he may not be an ass enough to completely toss her under the bus without a little padding, or maybe as they drove over an open manhole cover so that she has a way forward.

File it under we shall see. Get the popcorn and beverages ready. I know I am always looking for lawhawk’s reporting. He does a fine job.

173 GunstarGreen  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:21:49am

re: #114 Pie-onist Overlord

“Increase high-skill immigration” SO WE CAN REPLACE ALL YOU ENGINEERS & TECH WORKERS WITH CHINESE AND INDIANS1!!!!!!!1

As derpy as it sounds, it’s pretty much the plan. I speak from experience as a person working in IT.

A decade ago, they outsourced a lot of our work to China and India (and in some cases Russia, though it was less popular). Then they got back a bunch of barely-passable code and realized how much of a pain in the ass it is to have to deal with people halfway around the world. So the current trend is to bring a WHOLE bunch of H1B visas from India to here instead.

That the employee’s continued ability to remain in the country is one more bargaining chip that the company holds against them is, of course, no coincidence.

174 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:26:28am

Predictably, the fake image of the Queen packing heat has become fodder for American political statements, to wit:
It’s the Queen’s face, anyway.

Look carefully at the rear view mirror, bottom right. See the watermark?

175 Internet Tough Guy  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:26:50am

re: #168 Pie-onist Overlord

Let’s be fair; I’m sure Mr. Sirota would judge brian schweitzer the same way if some assholes in his administration talked like that.

176 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:29:39am

re: #171 wheat-dogghazi

There’s a guy named Zac McFlimby who ‘shops some pretty good stuff. You probably know who I mean, but I just found about him yesterday after a Facebook friend posted a probably bogus story about a granny packing heat and chasing four guys out what she thought was HER car. (It was theirs, same make, model and color as hers.)

Anyway, the photo was of Queen Elizabeth II behind the wheel of a car holding an automatic handgun (with suppressor!) in her right hand, looking mean and tough. On the rearview mirror is McFlimby’s watermark. Had me fooled till I spotted it.
Image: the-queen.jpg

My favorite shop of all time…what I call the Lee Harvey Oswald trio. The famous photo of Ruby shooting a grimacing Oswald with the Dallas police dude standing there with the what the hell look. They gave Oswald a mic, Ruby a Telecaster and the cop a set of keyboards. It’s a howler!

Hey, of course a quick google and up it pops. Many may have already seen it, but just in case. Notice they built up the noise level of the instruments to have the texture of the original photo and manipulated the curves and contrast to fit a newsprint image. Good stuff.

The Lee Harvey Oswald Trio

177 Internet Tough Guy  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:29:43am

re: #172 ObserverArt

Would it surprise you or any others if she was being paid off very well to weather the storm? I have a feeling Christie can be an ass, but I also think he may not be an ass enough to completely toss her under the bus without a little padding, or maybe as they drove over an open manhole cover so that she has a way forward.

Except she was publically shitcanned, while the others resigned and kept their pensions (IIRC), so I’m not sure you can make that assumption.

If the investigations aren’t trying to flip her to get to the others, they’re stupid.

178 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:32:19am

re: #176 ObserverArt

Very clever. And it would fool someone who had never seen the original shot.

179 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:33:39am

re: #177 Internet Tough Guy

Except she was publically shitcanned, while the others resigned and kept their pensions (IIRC), so I’m not sure you can make that assumption.

If the investigations aren’t trying to flip her to get to the others, they’re stupid.

I agree. I am saying it could all be under the table. It is NJ politics, and if it is worth the money for his supporters, it shall be done. And yes, it is all speculation and it also takes into account that I do not think she was totally responsible and did it for him. If she is capable of doing it for him, she may also be capable of taking the heat if there is a good payoff.

180 Ian G.  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:34:31am

re: #143 Political Atheist

Sadly, Ronald Lacey passed away in 1991.

181 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:38:34am

re: #163 wheat-dogghazi

I think you nailed it, propping him up as a Free Speech poster child was a bad marketing move, despite the initial surge in DD merchandise.

182 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:42:10am

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi

Very clever. And it would fool someone who had never seen the original shot.

Except everybody knows that Ruby was a loyal Gibson man, and the D-20 wasn’t released until about 1988. Duh.

RBS
oh yea, and check the heat maps.

183 prairiefire  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:44:59am

Me girl needs an appendectomy! Hopefully she’ll be able to get a table this afternoon. Early days as far as when that ticking time bomb would go off, maybe 3-4 days. Do Not Ignore Shooting Pains Level 8!

184 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:45:16am

re: #133 Political Atheist

Good morning. The NRA has become a big part of the problem. This should be fun to watch unfold.

If it’s about the NRA and it’s abuse of it’s congressional charter, then so much the merrier. If it recognizes the fact that the police have no legal obligation to protect you, even better.

185 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:45:27am

HOORAY!!!

I have the entire day off today!

HISSSSSS

I woke up with a head cold!!!!

186 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:45:32am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)

TV viewers, for the most part, just want to be entertained. The Duck Dynasty demographic may be sympathetic to Robertson’s opinions, but I suspect they’d rather he keep them to himself.

Notice, for example, that the Duggars, who are quite likely part of the Quiverfull movement, never say anything specific about it on TV. They’re Christians, sure, but careful not to associate themselves with Quiverfull, or bring it up, because it would probably cost them viewers.

Extremism doesn’t play well. That cook lady found that out.

187 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:45:34am

Thor should have burned his draft card.

/

188 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:45:59am

re: #183 prairiefire

Good thoughts her (and your) way

189 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:47:10am

re: #187 Amory Blaine

Thor should have burned his draft card.

/

He was taking the fast path to citizenship.

190 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:47:29am

re: #138 Political Atheist

If he plays it more 60 minutes than Michael Moore, we could all be better off.

QFT.

191 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:48:08am

re: #185 sattv4u2

HOORAY!!!

I have the entire day off today!

HISSSSSS

I woke up with a head cold!!!!

I swear my body knows when I’m not working and saves getting sick for those days. Stupid body. When do I get my shiny metal one?

RBS

192 Dr. Matt  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:50:30am

Skittles and popcorn…..the two biggest fears of the NRA gun fetishists.

193 b_sharp  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:52:25am

re: #9 Kragar

Just got back from taking my eldest to her birthday dinner. Party is this Saturday.

Next year she becomes a teenager.

Poor dad.

194 ObserverArt  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:52:56am

re: #190 William Barnett-Lewis

If he plays it more 60 minutes than Michael Moore, we could all be better off.

QFT.

I agree with both you and Political Atheist. Michael Moore just can’t help himself sometimes…he always seems to go that 100 miles too far with no stops on the way there.

If it is done more as a drama with some colorful humor tossed and damn good writing based on as much fact as can be found, it will have a chance.

And with that…to work on a user’s guide for the folks I did my first simple web store setup from start to finish.

Later…

195 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:56:24am

Well, I see that Wisconsin is doomed to four more years of the Koch Brother’s puppet in the Governor’s mansion. The only decent Democratic candidate is bowing out and Feingold is staying retired.

host.madison.com

Minnesota is looking better every day: more jobs, more civil liberties, better schools, better infrastructure & protection for the environment all thanks to Walker & the greedheads running Wisconsin.

196 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 7:56:27am
197 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 8:02:26am

So much for my day off

She That Shall Be Obeyed just informed me that we are out of bird seed (we have over a dozen feeders around the property) deer corn and peanuts for the furry critters that wander around

198 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 8:03:09am

HURR HURR BUT TEH LIBRULZ IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!11!!!!

199 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 8:04:35am

re: #198 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR BUT TEH LIBRULZ IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!11!!!!

[Embedded content]

I’m beginning to get Bryan Fischer overload…

200 Targetpractice  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 8:06:36am

re: #198 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR BUT TEH LIBRULZ IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!11!!!!

[Embedded content]

Why do that, Bryan? Aren’t we told all the time by you and your fellow travelers that we need to come to peace with the “reality” that whites are just inherently superior to minorities? So why would they need a leg up if they’re already operating with an advantage?

201 b_sharp  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 8:13:46am

re: #127 Political Atheist

20th anniversary of Northridge quake and we get a reminder from nature. Heh, what are the odds? Exclusive damage photo ///

2.6 on the 20th anniversary of Northridge

Fuzzy photo.

202 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 8:14:37am

re: #198 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR BUT TEH LIBRULZ IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!11!!!!

[Embedded content]

Quick reality check… Numbers based on 2010 census and rounded off.

Demographics California

White* 23 Million, 62%
White, Not Hispanic 16 Million, 42%
Hispanic Latino, Any Race 14 million, 37%
Asian 6 Million, 15%
Black 3 Million, 7%

*”White” as defined by Census Agency.

White Americans are people of the United States who are considered or consider themselves White. The United States Census Bureau defines White people as those “having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa. It includes people who indicated their race(s) as “White” or reported entries such as Irish, German, Italian, Lebanese, Arab, Moroccan, or Caucasian.”[4] Like all official U.S. racial categories, “White” has a “Not Hispanic or Latino” and a “Hispanic or Latino” component,[5] the latter consisting mostly of White Mexican Americans and white Cuban Americans. The term “Caucasian” is often used interchangeably with “White”, although the terms are not synonymous.[6][7] Wikipedia

The way I read it, what they are concerned is that the number of “WHITE LIKE ME” whites are going to become a minority. If you break it out as White / non-Hispanic - Hispanic - Asian - Blacks - Others California is a Majority Minority state already, since there is no one group that composes 50% of the population.

Just more fear mongering from the right, but what’s new?

RBS

203 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 8:16:44am

re: #201 b_sharp

Fuzzy photo.

That’s cuz the wall start shaking, the earth was quaking….

RBS

204 Pie-onist Overlord  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 8:17:50am

re: #202 RealityBasedSteve

Quick reality check… Numbers based on 2010 census and rounded off.

Demographics California

White* 23 Million, 62%
White, Not Hispanic 16 Million, 42%
Hispanic Latino, Any Race 14 million, 37%
Asian 6 Million, 15%
Black 3 Million, 7%

*”White” as defined by Census Agency.

The way I read it, what they are concerned is that the number of “WHITE LIKE ME” whites are going to become a minority. If you break it out as White / non-Hispanic - Hispanic - Asian - Blacks - Others California is a Majority Minority state already, since there is no one group that composes 50% of the population.

Just more fear mongering from the right, but what’s new?

RBS

Spanish-speaking Europeans from Spain are not Hispanic.

205 b_sharp  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 8:23:28am

re: #170 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!!1!!!!

[Embedded content]

I’m sorry, who was it again that sent the military into Afghanistan?

206 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 8:34:06am

re: #173 GunstarGreen

As derpy as it sounds, it’s pretty much the plan. I speak from experience as a person working in IT.

A decade ago, they outsourced a lot of our work to China and India (and in some cases Russia, though it was less popular). Then they got back a bunch of barely-passable code and realized how much of a pain in the ass it is to have to deal with people halfway around the world. So the current trend is to bring a WHOLE bunch of H1B visas from India to here instead.

That the employee’s continued ability to remain in the country is one more bargaining chip that the company holds against them is, of course, no coincidence.

Contracting firms around DC were doing that back in the late 80s and early 90s when I worked there. A few firms were populated with IT personnel from India on H1B visas and they heavily undercut the other local IT contractors since they could pay less and have programmers and analysts with BS and even MS IT degrees from universities in India.

The other firms fought back in two ways:
1. They started hiring BS degree IT folk instead of mainly using Associate Degree programmers. (Which got me my job there - they hired a lot of eastern OH and western PA college grads looking for entry level IT jobs.)
2. They started radically lying on the resumes they submitted for getting contracts. I saw the one they were using for me once - it listed me as having an MS degree in CmpSci and three more years of experience than I actually had.*

I was out of that firm and back in western PA less than six months after I saw that resume. It was obvious to me that it was not a firm to work for.

* - The only reason I saw it was that they had doctored one of the other analyst’s resume in a way similar to mine and pushed back his attendance at Marshall University by 3-4 years. Which just so happened to then overlap with when one of the government managers actually was attending Marshall. So he asked the analyst about who he knew in school and it quickly became clear that the resume and reality were not in agreement. So the contract account manager(s) arranged for us to see our resumes so that we would know what to lie about if we were asked questions.

207 Stanley Sea  Fri, Jan 17, 2014 9:04:22am

re: #183 prairiefire

Me girl needs an appendectomy! Hopefully she’ll be able to get a table this afternoon. Early days as far as when that ticking time bomb would go off, maybe 3-4 days. Do Not Ignore Shooting Pains Level 8!

Oh bummer!!!! Good wishes being sent your way.


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