ZOMG, Hamas Hangs Young Kids on Fence to use as Human Shields!

Or, people will believe ANY damned thing
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So I was going through my emails & Google Alerts, surfing around the web, checking out the trends in the Twitterverse, etc. and I came across this:

Confirmation Bias?

Now I don’t even remember where I originally saw it, but as far as I can tell the current outrage was started by fraudulent ex-terrorist & terrorism expert turned Christian, Walid Shoebat, who posted it yesterday on his blog (screenshot). It was also on many of the hater blogs, most linking back to Shoebat.

Automatically assuming that anything originating with Shoebat or any of the other so-called “counterjihadists” is most likely an intentional misrepresentation designed to pander to people’s fears and trigger thier confirmation bias, I decided to go poking around to see what I could find out about it.

At first I was a bit miffed, but the more I read the descriptions of it on the hater blogs and wingnutty, fear mongering tweets like these, the more absurd it became until it began to seem downright comical. Granted the little boys look terrified and I feel sorry for them, but the breathless claims that this was definitive PROOF of a Hamas member (some even claimed it was the boys’ father) hanging kids up as human shields on the side of a building was just too freaking bizarre and I had to LOL.

Really? I mean, seriously—you actually believe that they’re literally going around attaching kid-shields to the sides of buildings by hanging them off window gratings like Christmas stockings pinned to a fireplace mantle? Not only that, but that some Hamas guy is actually letting someone take pictures of it?? And why isn’t the IDF taking photos of it to push back against all the bad PR they’ve been getting?

The stupid, it burns.

All you can tell for sure from the photo is that the kids are clearly in distress. There’s Arabic graffiti on the wall, but that doesn’t prove squat—they could be in any number of countries. Also, how do we know the guy isn’t taking them down, not putting them up? Look at his left arm and the left foot of the kid whose collar he’s holding—it looks like he’s holding the kid around his legs and trying to lift him up so he can take him down. But hey, if you think all Arabs/Muslims are heartless, violent savages, then nothing is too much of a stretch, I guess. *SMH*

How did the kids get up there in the first place? Who in the hell knows? I sure don’t and I’m fairly certain Shoebat doesn’t have a clue either, but anyone who’s ever had kids knows they can get themselves is some crazy, (seemingly) impossible predicaments. If it was what he’s claiming it is (and what so many are repeating like a battalion of inane wind-up dolls), then why isn’t it in major newspapers? Why is there no date, time, and exact location? Why isn’t the photographer taking credit? Yeah, I know, I know: Because [insert wingnut conspiracy theory of your choice].

Anyway, last but not least I searched for the image on Google Images to see how far back I could find references to it. Most of the results were from Facebook, so there’s no telling where it originated. I gave up at the 2001 reference to “The Rapture Is Imminent!” (Bad crazy, don’t go there,)

Google Images Results

People snark about “Pallywood”, but they rarely mention the amount of photographic misrepresentation that also flows in the opposite direction.

UPDATE at 8/2/14 6:33:55 pm by CuriousLurker

H/T to Gus and his Google-fu for finding a copy of the photo that dates back to December 2013, pretty much proving that it has nothing to do with the current conflict in Gaza. Thanks, Gus!

re: #66 Gus

Looking at an Arabic page and did a Google translate. They all seem to be criticizing this guy. Published: 2013-12

UPDATE at 8/5/14 10:28:52 am by CuriousLurker

H/T to Sergey for finding a copy of the photo posted to Facebook in June 2011. I now consider the claims that the photo is related to current events in Gaza to be definitively debunked. Thanks, Sergey!

re: #123 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

We’re getting closer.
5.6.11

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170 comments

1 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 2, 2014 4:45:30pm

*Groan*

Lies they love. They know better they just embrace it to feed the hate.

2 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 4:56:33pm

re: #1 Rightwingconspirator

*Groan*

Lies they love. They know better they just embrace it to feed the hate.

Indeed. *sigh* But I have to admit that now I’m super curious about what really happened… How in the hell did they end up hanging there like that? They could’ve been strangled to death SO quickly. As the mother of a son who managed to survive to adulthood, all I can say is: Yikes! O_o

3 b_sharp  Aug 2, 2014 4:57:32pm

re: #2 CuriousLurker

Indeed. *sigh* But I have to admit that now I’m super curious about what really happened… How in the hell did they end up hanging there like that? They could’ve been strangled to death SO quickly. As the mother of a son who managed to survive to adulthood, all I can say is: Yikes! O_o

Look to other kids.

4 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 4:59:42pm

re: #3 b_sharp

Look to other kids.

Ha! That was exactly what I was thinking—either older kids bullying them, or a bunch of kids playing some game that didn’t go as expected.

5 Flavia  Aug 2, 2014 5:00:37pm

The reason it looks like he is hanging them up instead of taking them down is that there’s no logical way they could have fallen onto THAT part of the fence.

Yeah, I searched for the provenance of this photo, too. I couldn’t find it.

6 b_sharp  Aug 2, 2014 5:02:19pm

re: #4 CuriousLurker

Ha! That was exactly what I was thinking—either older kids bullying them, or a bunch of kids playing some game that didn’t go as expected.

My first thought the second I saw the pic, well before I saw the context was that an adult was saving a couple of little kids from the pranks of older kids.

7 b_sharp  Aug 2, 2014 5:03:11pm

re: #5 Flavia

The reason it looks like he is hanging them up instead of taking them down is that there’s no logical way they could have fallen onto THAT part of the fence.

Yeah, I searched for the provenance of this photo, too. I couldn’t find it.

Nobody suggested they fell onto the fence.

8 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 5:10:55pm

re: #5 Flavia

The reason it looks like he is hanging them up instead of taking them down is that there’s no logical way they could have fallen onto THAT part of the fence.

Yeah, I searched for the provenance of this photo, too. I couldn’t find it.

No, but someone else (like older kids) could’ve put them up there. We also can’t see the ground so there’s no way to know if they might have climbed up on something that toppled over. I’m sure there are other possibilities I haven’t thought of as well, but believing that the guy is a member of Hamas hanging them up on a building as shields strikes me as batshit crazy, especially when the guy who’s pushing the photo is a known fraud. It’s absurd.

Do let me know if you find that provenance from a reliable source. I’m sure the IDF would be relieved to have indisputable photographic proof of the use of children as shields.

9 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 5:11:57pm

re: #6 b_sharp

My first thought the second I saw the pic, well before I saw the context was that an adult was saving a couple of little kids from the pranks of older kids.

Yeah, older kids’ prank gone wrong would be at the top of my list.

10 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 5:21:59pm

Thanks. Charles. I definitely wasn’t expecting it to get promoted. Stand by for exploding heads and hate mail… O_o

11 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 2, 2014 5:22:32pm

re: #5 Flavia

The reason it looks like he is hanging them up instead of taking them down is that there’s no logical way they could have fallen onto THAT part of the fence.

Yeah, I searched for the provenance of this photo, too. I couldn’t find it.

Or someone else hung them up, and he’s taking them down. Someone, at some point, was an asshole, but that’s not the point.

12 Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2014 5:23:01pm

Personally, I despise the Pallywood bullshit. Anyone who says it is a cold hearted fuck, with the need to justify it.

13 jaunte  Aug 2, 2014 5:25:28pm
14 Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2014 5:25:51pm

re: #2 CuriousLurker

Indeed. *sigh* But I have to admit that now I’m super curious about what really happened… How in the hell did they end up hanging there like that? They could’ve been strangled to death SO quickly. As the mother of a son who managed to survive to adulthood, all I can say is: Yikes! O_o

One possibility. Pissed off parent. Maybe they were running in the road one too many times.

It probably was an innocuous event, that of course (because the Muslims) got spread far & wide.

Seriously, whatever the actuality - it’s being used to defame.

15 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 2, 2014 5:27:03pm

re: #12 Stanley Sea

Personally, I despise the Pallywood bullshit. Anyone who says it is a cold hearted fuck, with the need to justify it.

Basically all unaccredited political/outrage/WTF pics are bullshit. Not just from there either not by a long shot.

16 jaunte  Aug 2, 2014 5:27:18pm

Upper Darby [PA] Students Arrested In Bullying Attack

The assault reportedly continued for approximately 20 minutes, and ended with the assailants attempting to hook the victim by his jacket onto a fence post.

17 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 5:29:35pm

re: #13 jaunte

Father wants answers after son found hanging on school bathroom hook

Louisville KY.

re: #16 jaunte

Upper Darby [PA] Students Arrested In Bullying Attack

Y’all look out, jaunte’s on a roll with the Google-fu!

18 Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2014 5:29:52pm

re: #15 Rightwingconspirator

Basically all unaccredited political/outrage/WTF pics are bullshit. Not just from there either not by a long shot.

Pallywood is a specific term to discount Palestinian events. All the bad things were just made up.

Different.

19 Varek Raith  Aug 2, 2014 5:30:31pm

My first thought is that someone, a teen I’d wager, is an asshole and thought it would be funny to do that.

20 jaunte  Aug 2, 2014 5:30:41pm

re: #17 CuriousLurker

I’m trying to remember how many movies I’ve seen where people get hung up by their clothing on hooks as a prank.

21 Ryan King  Aug 2, 2014 5:30:43pm

re: #17 CuriousLurker

Y’all look out, jaunte’s on a roll with the Google-fu!

He’s Google Chuck Norris.

22 bubba zanetti  Aug 2, 2014 5:31:22pm

I’m not sure what that 2001 date refers to, since the link goes to Facebook which wasn’t founded until 2004…

23 Ryan King  Aug 2, 2014 5:31:31pm

re: #20 jaunte

I’m trying to remember how many movies I’ve seen where people get hung up by their clothing on hooks as a prank.

Happened to me once or twice.

24 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 5:32:41pm

re: #22 bubba zanetti

I’m not sure what that 2001 date refers to, since the link goes to Facebook which wasn’t founded until 2004…

Yeah, I tried to find out where they pull those dates from, but I had no luck. If you (or anyone) knows or finds out, please let me know.

25 Amory Blaine  Aug 2, 2014 5:34:20pm

Tickle tickle.

26 wrenchwench  Aug 2, 2014 5:37:21pm

You’ve posted this one before, CL.

What is it with you and kids hanged by clothing?

/

27 bubba zanetti  Aug 2, 2014 5:38:53pm

And the “Le Cercle Hatikva” posted that image on July 28, not back in 2009.

28 b.d.  Aug 2, 2014 5:40:22pm

re: #27 bubba zanetti

And the “Le Cercle Hatikva” posted that image on July 28, not back in 2009.

Those kids have been hanging on that fence for a long time.

//

29 jaunte  Aug 2, 2014 5:40:39pm


This young fisherman is going to need a patch job as he’s snagged on a barbed-wire fence in September 1949. (A. Aubrey Bodine/Baltimore Sun)

darkroom.baltimoresun.com

30 wrenchwench  Aug 2, 2014 5:41:40pm

????

31 Ryan King  Aug 2, 2014 5:41:46pm

It’s obviously Hamas using young kids as human shields because… Arabic-y graffiti.

Nothing like proper vetting.

32 Shazam  Aug 2, 2014 5:42:27pm

“If only there was a way to protect my graffitoed wall from all the Israeli missiles!”
*looks down at kids*
Later, on the Hamas-sponsored news channel: “We go now to a brave Palestinian man receiving a reward for his quick thinking in the face of Jewish oppression.”
“I’d like to thank all of the kids of Palestine for their sacrifice. Because of them, we were able to defeat the Jews once and for all.”

33 Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2014 5:44:47pm

re: #30 wrenchwench

????

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L O L

CL, that’s all that’s left sometimes.

34 Gus  Aug 2, 2014 5:45:08pm

Hanging? Looks like they’re just playing around.

35 Varek Raith  Aug 2, 2014 5:45:21pm

re: #30 wrenchwench

????

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Because shut up that’s why.

36 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 5:46:04pm

re: #26 wrenchwench

You’ve posted this one before, CL.

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What is it with you and kids hanged by clothing?

/

LOL! I forgot all about that one!

37 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 5:48:38pm

Hahahaha, okay so this has officially become the “kids hanging from unlikely places” thread—what a hoot, I love it!

38 Varek Raith  Aug 2, 2014 5:49:39pm

re: #37 CuriousLurker

Hahahaha, okay so this has officially become the “kids hanging from unlikely places” thread—what a hoot, I love it!

TERRORISM

39 ausador  Aug 2, 2014 5:49:42pm

How about dad just doing a little macho type fooling around and hanging them for a few seconds, just for laughs?

I’ve seen parents do much stupider and much crueler things to their kids because it was funny to them.

40 wrenchwench  Aug 2, 2014 5:50:32pm

Not just kids…

41 OhNoZombies!  Aug 2, 2014 5:51:19pm

OhNoZombies! Casually scrolls through the thread, and chuckles at the little boys hanging from their drawers…
Realizes her own boys are awfully quiet…
Runs upstairs.

42 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 5:51:29pm

re: #40 wrenchwench

Not just kids…

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Stop ittttttt! ROFLMAO

43 b.d.  Aug 2, 2014 5:51:36pm
44 wrenchwench  Aug 2, 2014 5:51:51pm

You realize I’m searching the Cheezburger site…

45 Varek Raith  Aug 2, 2014 5:52:07pm

re: #40 wrenchwench

Not just kids…

[Embedded image]

Hey, you know you’re…

Yeah, yeah, shut it.

46 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 5:52:23pm

re: #41 OhNoZombies!

OhNoZombies! Casually scrolls through the thread, and chuckles at the little boys hanging from their drawers…
Realizes her own boys are awfully quiet…
Runs upstairs.

LOL, you guys are killing me here.

47 Kragar  Aug 2, 2014 5:53:22pm

Waiting for the inevitable exchange to happen:

“You know this picture is from over a decade ago, right?”

“IT DOESN’T MEAN ITS NOT TRUE!!!!”

48 Ryan King  Aug 2, 2014 5:54:07pm

re: #39 ausador

How about dad just doing a little macho type fooling around and hanging them for a few seconds, just for laughs?

Dad was doing it to ‘toughen them up’ for their own good.

49 Flounder  Aug 2, 2014 5:54:07pm

You sure this just isn’t laundry day?

50 Gus  Aug 2, 2014 5:54:11pm

Found the same pic at Liveleak in something titled “Palestinian riot in Hebron on prisoner day” which is from April.

51 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 2, 2014 5:54:40pm

re: #47 Kragar

Waiting for the inevitable exchange to happen:

“You know this picture is from over a decade ago, right?”

“IT DOESN’T MEAN ITS NOT TRUE!!!!”

It means that they have been doing it for over a decade now. ////

RBS

52 jaunte  Aug 2, 2014 5:55:13pm
53 wrenchwench  Aug 2, 2014 5:55:15pm

Don’t know why this one came up.

54 Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2014 5:56:36pm

re: #53 wrenchwench

Don’t know why this one came up.

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They look pretty sexy.

55 Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2014 5:57:45pm
56 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 2, 2014 5:57:52pm

Is that a bee in your bra, or are you just glad to see me?

57 wrenchwench  Aug 2, 2014 5:58:35pm

Later, lizards.

58 Ryan King  Aug 2, 2014 5:59:16pm

re: #52 jaunte

Ho brah!

59 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 2, 2014 5:59:30pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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It’s not officially dis-proved until it shows up on GatewayPundit. Once it does, we know that it’s false. (not that we don’t know it already)

RBS

60 Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2014 6:01:26pm

re: #46 CuriousLurker

LOL, you guys are killing me here.

Half totally full CL.

61 Varek Raith  Aug 2, 2014 6:02:46pm

63 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 6:06:09pm

It feels good to laugh at something after all these weeks of tension. It also feels good to know that this screwed up the hater blogs’ Google ranking.

64 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 2, 2014 6:09:41pm

Hey there, CL… How about a Virtual High 5…

High 5 for CL

65 ausador  Aug 2, 2014 6:10:10pm

Father: Do you boys remember the last time I let you walk down to the office with me?

Boys: Yes dad.

Father: Do you remember me telling you to wait right here and I would be out in just a minute?

Boys: Yes dad.

Father: Yet when I came out you were way down the street playing with those other boys, weren’t you?

Boys: Yes dad.

Father: Well this time I’m going to make sure that you stay right here…

///

66 Gus  Aug 2, 2014 6:10:20pm

Looking at an Arabic page and did a Google translate. They all seem to be criticizing this guy. Published: 2013-12

67 Gus  Aug 2, 2014 6:11:16pm

Which means it’s not from the Hebron protests either which took place in April.

68 Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2014 6:11:20pm

re: #66 Gus

Looking at an Arabic page and did a Google translate. They all seem to be criticizing this guy. Published: 2013-12

There you go. That pretty much proves it has nothing to do with this conflict.

69 Gus  Aug 2, 2014 6:13:00pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

There you go. That pretty much proves it has nothing to do with this conflict.

Definitely.

70 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 6:15:08pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

There you go. That pretty much proves it has nothing to do with this conflict.

re: #69 Gus

Definitely.

Gus totally rocks! I was hoping he’d come through with his Google-fu. ;o)

71 Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2014 6:16:46pm
72 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 6:17:28pm

re: #64 RealityBasedSteve

Hey there, CL… How about a Virtual High 5…

High 5 for CL

Right back atcha’!

73 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 6:22:10pm

I’m gonna actually go up-ding my own Page because y’all made it so fun. ;)

74 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 2, 2014 6:22:30pm

re: #18 Stanley Sea

Pallywood is a specific term to discount Palestinian events. All the bad things were just made up.

Different.

Quite so, not to diminish the point at all, just to point out the nature of the hateful tool used. We have seen it so much over the years, sometimes it’s out of context sometimes it’s faked outright.

75 ausador  Aug 2, 2014 6:22:33pm

re: #70 CuriousLurker

Gus totally rocks! I was hoping he’d come through with his Google-fu. ;o)

You should update the page showing a definite example of this photo being used prior to the beginning of these latest hostilities instead of just using the google search result dates.

76 Varek Raith  Aug 2, 2014 6:23:43pm

Well, I quit Eve. Forever.
Nice to have that monkey off my back.

77 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 6:24:16pm

re: #75 ausador

You should update the page showing a definite example of this photo being used prior to the beginning of these latest hostilities instead of just using the google search result dates.

Good idea—thanks. I’m running out of gas in terms of energy, so I’m gonna go do that before taking a break.

78 Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2014 6:24:17pm

re: #75 ausador

You should update the page showing a definite example of this photo being used prior to the beginning of these latest hostilities instead of just using the google search result dates.

Agree - that would be a worthy update.

79 b_sharp  Aug 2, 2014 6:26:26pm

re: #76 Varek Raith

Well, I quit Eve. Forever.
Nice to have that monkey off my back.

What?

80 Varek Raith  Aug 2, 2014 6:26:49pm

re: #79 b_sharp

What?

eveonline.com

81 Skip Intro  Aug 2, 2014 6:28:32pm

As we head into the 2014 election season, here’s a brief outline of what the GOP has been up to for the last six years.

Six years. Six fucking years of birth certificates and fake social security numbers and the imminent End of Days and Biblical Antichrists and teleprompters and FEMA death camps and secret reeducation centers and 911 truthiness and supposed gayness and Michelle’s sex change and Black Panthers and Tea Parties and Communists and Nazis and Socialists and Arabs and gun grabbing and Israel hating and death panels and painting over Old Glory on Air Force one and killing his own ambassadors and killing Breitbart and killing the kids at Sandy Hook and killing the soldiers at Fort Hood (twice) and NOT killing bin Laden and spilling oil in the Gulf of Mexico and HAARPing himself up a hurricane to punish New Jersey and disappearing Malaysian airliners and ordering IRS outrages and alien reptile lizards from the 4th Dimension and Sharia Law and, well, it just goes on and on and on.

If only the DNC had someone in charge, maybe they could be pointing this out before they manage to lose the Senate to these people.

Jim Wright, Stonekettle Station.

stonekettle.com

82 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 2, 2014 6:30:58pm

re: #81 Skip Intro

As we head into the 2014 election season, here’s a brief outline of what the GOP has been up to for the last six years,

Six years. Six fucking years of birth certificates and fake social security numbers and the imminent End of Days and Biblical Antichrists and teleprompters and FEMA death camps and secret reeducation centers and 911 truthiness and supposed gayness and Michelle’s sex change and Black Panthers and Tea Parties and Communists and Nazis and Socialists and Arabs and gun grabbing and Israel hating and death panels and painting over Old Glory on Air Force one and killing his own ambassadors and killing Breitbart and killing the kids at Sandy Hook and killing the soldiers at Fort Hood (twice) and NOT killing bin Laden and spilling oil in the Gulf of Mexico and HAARPing himself up a hurricane to punish New Jersey and disappearing Malaysian airliners and ordering IRS outrages and alien reptile lizards from the 4th Dimension and Sharia Law and, well, it just goes on and on and on.

If only the DNC had someone in charge, maybe they could be pointing this out before they manage to lose the Senate to these people.

Jim Wright, Stonekettle Station.

stonekettle.com

And people say that the GOP isn’t doing anything. //snark

RBS

83 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 2, 2014 6:33:31pm

Maybe it was the heat that got to me.
My first work of semi lyrical illustrated fiction. A very short story.

84 Gus  Aug 2, 2014 6:37:03pm

No telling what this is a picture of. Could be a father punishing his kids — not that I would approve. Could be messing around against the kids wills.

85 Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2014 6:38:56pm
86 b_sharp  Aug 2, 2014 6:39:36pm

re: #83 Rightwingconspirator

Maybe it was the heat that got to me.
My first work of semi lyrical illustrated fiction. A very short story.

Nice photo.
I always love the fire pics you post.

87 Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2014 6:39:46pm

re: #84 Gus

Another possibility: he could be taking the kids down after they were hung up there by bullies.

88 Gus  Aug 2, 2014 6:40:18pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

Another possibility: he could be taking the kids down after they were hung up there by bullies.

There you go. He could be taking them down for all we know.

89 b_sharp  Aug 2, 2014 6:41:30pm

re: #84 Gus

No telling what this is a picture of. Could be a father punishing his kids — not that I would approve. Could be messing around against the kids wills.

It is what it is. What it isn’t is a pic of Hamas using kids as shields, and that’s the important point.

Parents and kids can be assholes and frequently are, no matter the culture.

90 Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2014 6:43:22pm

This is why it’s so dangerous and irresponsible to jump to conclusions about photographs. It’s a tiny moment of time, with no context. You don’t know what happened before or after this slice of time.

But we should always be skeptical of those who use these fleeting images to promote their agendas.

91 b_sharp  Aug 2, 2014 6:43:44pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

Another possibility: he could be taking the kids down after they were hung up there by bullies.

As discussed above.

92 Gus  Aug 2, 2014 6:45:41pm

re: #89 b_sharp

It is what it is. What it isn’t is a pic of Hamas using kids as shields, and that’s the important point.

Parents and kids can be assholes and frequently are, no matter the culture.

Was just thinking about that very same word. Like in any society he could just be another asshole.

93 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 6:45:42pm

re: #84 Gus

No telling what this is a picture of. Could be a father punishing his kids — not that I would approve. Could be messing around against the kids wills.

Yeah, it really is impossible to tell what’s going on, especially since we can’t see the ground or the rest of the scene to know if there are more people around and see what their expressions & body language might say.

re: #87 Charles Johnson

Another possibility: he could be taking the kids down after they were hung up there by bullies.

Yeah, it’s hard to tell, but his (the man’s) posture doesn’t strike me as aggressive, and the kids have more of an “Oh crap, what have we gotten ourselves into?!” look than a “You’re a scary guy that means us harm, HELP!” look. And kids that young? If they were really terrified (of the man) I’d expect that they’d have wet their pants or something.

94 jaunte  Aug 2, 2014 6:45:53pm

travel.nationalgeographic.com

Despite appearances, never produced a tornado.

95 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 6:46:32pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

This is why it’s so dangerous and irresponsible to jump to conclusions about photographs. It’s a tiny moment of time, with no context. You don’t know what happened before or after this slice of time.

But we should always be skeptical of those who use these fleeting images to promote their agendas.

THIS.

96 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 6:47:38pm

re: #94 jaunte

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travel.nationalgeographic.com

Despite appearances, never produced a tornado.

Whoa! I’m pretty sure if I saw that thing bearing down on me I’d just pass out on the spot.

97 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 2, 2014 6:48:41pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

This is why it’s so dangerous and irresponsible to jump to conclusions about photographs. It’s a tiny moment of time, with no context. You don’t know what happened before or after this slice of time.

But we should always be skeptical of those who use these fleeting images to promote their agendas.

It’s part of why I prefer to stick to my artsy-fartsy landscapes. You may or may not like them, but I don’t have to worry about someone else’s agenda; just which filter to use :D

98 Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2014 6:51:56pm
99 PhillyPretzel  Aug 2, 2014 6:57:12pm

re: #94 jaunte

You could say it ran out of wind. /

100 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 6:59:26pm

Alright, the update is all done and I’m kinda tired.

Thanks Charles, Gus, and ausador for the practical stuff, and thanks to all the rest of you for turning this into a whole lot of fun & making me laugh.

You guys rock! Oh, before I go…


This one’s for wrenchwench!

Later, lizards.

101 Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2014 7:01:34pm

I should also note that Hamas is a thuggish terrorist gang that doesn’t hesitate to use children as human shields. But if you’re going to call them out for it, you can’t use deceptive images to do it.

102 CuriousLurker  Aug 2, 2014 7:06:49pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

I should also note that Hamas is a thuggish terrorist gang that doesn’t hesitate to use children as human shields. But if you’re going to call them out for it, you can’t use deceptive images to do it.

Yes, THIS! It’s really important because when you lie they can point to it and say, “See? We were innocent of it that time so….” If the deception happens often enough, people will start to doubt all images & stories coming out of there.

Dang it, you made me come back. Really leaving now, I swear…

103 Egregious Philbin  Aug 2, 2014 7:09:18pm

I am starting to miss “BENGHAZI!!!!11!!!!”

104 Stanley Sea  Aug 2, 2014 7:10:06pm

re: #100 CuriousLurker

That was the best.

106 ausador  Aug 2, 2014 7:13:58pm

Now Hamas is using poor innocent dogs too…

Hamas Canine Shield Tactic!!!

///

107 Gus  Aug 2, 2014 7:23:30pm

Also. Hamas doesn’t walk around wearing hair gel, unarmed, in ripped up old designer jeans, and some old worn out t-shirt.

108 Gus  Aug 2, 2014 7:28:01pm

FWIW. From the Atheist Conservative.

Note: We were wrongly informed about this picture.

It is from an earlier time, and no one is sure whether the man is hanging the kids up or taking them down.

We apologize for our error. The deplorable thing is that it was all too easy to believe a Gazan father capable of doing such a thing.

Not an endorsement of the rest of his site.

109 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 2, 2014 7:28:25pm

Do we even know where this picture was taken?

I think it’s agreed these kids were “pantsed” by other kids and the guy is taking them down.

110 ausador  Aug 2, 2014 7:38:55pm

re: #109 Pie-onist Overlord

Do we even know where this picture was taken?

I think it’s agreed these kids were “pantsed” by other kids and the guy is taking them down.

Not a solitary clue other than that the graffiti is arabic, the people who made up this slander obviously did not have a clue either, they just made it up upon seeing the picture.

Could be from any number of middle eastern or Persian/Asian countries that use the Persian alphabet.

111 Gus  Aug 2, 2014 7:39:15pm

I would add that it’s deplorable to think that any father from Gaza would do such a thing. From what I’ve seen the vast majority of the fathers in Gaza don’t want their children to die by any means.

112 Romantic Heretic  Aug 2, 2014 7:43:37pm

re: #16 jaunte

Upper Darby [PA] Students Arrested In Bullying Attack

That’s something I remember happening to me when I was that age. But back then nobody gave a shit.

“Grow some balls.” “Fight back.” All the other crap so that adults wouldn’t have to do anything.

Needless to say, I’m still angry about it.

113 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 2, 2014 8:04:58pm

re: #112 Romantic Heretic

That’s something I remember happening to me when I was that age. But back then nobody gave a shit.

“Grow some balls.” “Fight back.” All the other crap so that adults wouldn’t have to do anything.

Needless to say, I’m still angry about it.

“If they laugh at you, laugh with them!”

114 BadExampleMan  Aug 2, 2014 9:02:29pm

re: #113 Pie-onist Overlord

“If they laugh at you, laugh with them!”

“Just ignore them, they’ll get bored and stop!”

115 BeenHereAwhile  Aug 2, 2014 9:45:16pm

re: #100 CuriousLurker

As an old farm boy, I’m use to the realities of animal husbandry.

You know like having to personally put an animal down. Whether for food or to put the animal out of its misery.

So with all due respect, I’m puzzled by display of these and other previous photos of animals in distress or worse.

116 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 3, 2014 12:33:08am
I gave up at the 2001 reference to “The Rapture Is Imminent!”

CL, please note that it’s a facebook ref, so the date is false, it can’t be 2001.

PS: on further reflection, you probably cite this as an example of uselessness of searching by dates in Google, but it’s not immediately clear.

117 CuriousLurker  Aug 3, 2014 12:56:27am

re: #116 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

CL, please note that it’s a facebook ref, so the date is false, it can’t be 2001.

PS: on further reflection, you probably cite this as an example of uselessness of searching by dates in Google, but it’s not immediately clear.

Yeah, FB wasn’t created until circa 2004, so it was impossible for it to have been there in 2001. As I mentioned in my response #24 to another poster, I tried to find out where Google pulls the dates from, to no avail.

I would never have accepted the image as legit anyway simply because of the most recent source (Shoebat) and the fact that it was impossible to very when & where it was taken and what the context was.

You’re correct that I did get a bit fed up with the uselessness of trying to track it down, but Gus saved the day with his discovery of it posted in that Arabic forum back in December of last year.

118 CuriousLurker  Aug 3, 2014 1:04:06am

re: #115 BeenHereAwhile

As an old farm boy, I’m use to the realities of animal husbandry.

You know like having to personally put an animal down. Whether for food or to put the animal out of its misery.

So with all due respect, I’m puzzled by display of these and other previous photos of animals in distress or worse.

With all due respect, you’re not really being very clear. Are you simply trying to be diplomatic in registering moral disapproval of the animal photos everyone posted? I’m asking because none of the animals appear to be in any more distress or danger than than the little Arab boys in the photo I was posting about, yet you didn’t express concern for them, so I’m a bit confused…

119 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 3, 2014 1:31:09am

facebook.com

5.11.13

120 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 3, 2014 2:29:24am

And of course, there are pro-Palestinian folks who claim this is an Israeli torturing Palestinian kids.

121 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 3, 2014 2:30:30am

re: #120 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

smh

122 BongCrodny  Aug 3, 2014 2:54:36am

So, Guardians of the Galaxy was a lot of fun.

I’m certainly not going to spoil the movie, but I have no such qualms about the post-credits scene, which is a Giant Sized Man-Thing shout-out to slightly (*cough*) over-the-hill, long-in-the-tooth, long time Marvel Comics fanboy geeks like yours truly.

At the end of the credits, the final scene shows Benecio Del Toro’s Taneleer Tivan — a.k.a. “The Collector” — soothing his nerves after his entire “collection” has pretty much been blown to smitheroonies. Cosmo the Dog licks his face, and an offscreen voice says “Why do you let him lick you like that?”

Cut to the speaker, and it’s Howard The Duck.

But here’s the fun part: If you’re familiar with Marvel’s mythology, the scene really isn’t just a random joke. The Collector’s raison d’etre is to collect rare/unusual/one-of-a-kind objects, and Howard the Duck — an anthropomorphic duck from an alternate dimension — is the only talking duck in the Marvel Universe.

It’s a cool thing when the writers know the source material.

123 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 3, 2014 4:27:17am

We’re getting closer.
5.6.11

facebook.com

124 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 3, 2014 5:26:04am

Could it be this guy on the photo?

facebook.com

125 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 3, 2014 5:30:35am

Anyone knows Arabic here?

facebook.com

126 BeenHereAwhile  Aug 3, 2014 5:48:43am

re: #118 CuriousLurker

With all due respect, you’re not really being very clear. Are you simply trying to be diplomatic in registering moral disapproval of the animal photos everyone posted? I’m asking because none of the animals appear to be in any more distress or danger than than the little Arab boys in the photo I was posting about, yet you didn’t express concern for them, so I’m a bit confused…

I didn’t comment on the portrayal of children in distress, because I considered that thread to have been well discussed, and had nothing further to add to the conversation.

And no, I don’t equate animals in distress as shown in those photographs - some of which apparently resulted in the animal dying - with that of humans.

127 CuriousLurker  Aug 3, 2014 10:13:35am

re: #120 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

And of course, there are pro-Palestinian folks who claim this is an Israeli torturing Palestinian kids.

[Embedded content]

re: #121 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

[Embedded content]

smh

Unfortunately, I’m sure this surprises exactly no one. This never-ending conflict seems to have become as much about dueling narratives designed to sway public opinion as it is about real battles on the ground. The advent of social media simply opened up a new virtual arena in which to fight.

*sigh*

re: #123 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

We’re getting closer.
5.6.11

facebook.com

Excellent. I tried translating it in Chrome and it mostly seems to be people cracking jokes about it. It’s hard to tell sometimes because the auto-translators aren’t particularly accurate and you often end up with a word salad. It doesn’t help that there are lots of regional dialects and much of the Arabic you see in social media situations is colloquial.

Heh, I remember talking to some of the taxi drivers back in the day and them having a discussion about how in the Gulf region the word maqwa means “iron” (as in the thing you use to press your clothes), but in Egypt it’s slang for “ass” (or vice versa—it was a long time ago).

re: #124 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Could it be this guy on the photo?

facebook.com

Hmm, according to Chrome the caption says:

Hi, my image has been used by the group in the social networking sites as a component of a Hamas children hang on the walls of houses so as not to bombard …. and went site nor Hebrew …

I can’t make sense out of the comments that follow

I guess it could be him. It’s hard to tell from the header photo on his main profile page (or “wall” or whatever it’s called nowadays) because the kids are much younger there and they’re smiling, and we can’t see the guy’s face in the other photo. That said, his build, coloring, haircut, and protruding ears seem to match—impossible to be sure though.

Photo Comparison

re: #125 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Anyone knows Arabic here?

facebook.com

Still depending on Chrome here, but the poor FB dad from above, Lamia Yosef, appears to be trying to clear things up (i.e. NOT Hamas), but everyone is too busy bickering to care. Also lots assumptions and what looks like more confirmation bias. Here’s the translated page as a PDF.

Even people who are usually rational seem to just lose their shit whenever this subject comes up.

128 CuriousLurker  Aug 3, 2014 10:23:05am

re: #126 BeenHereAwhile

I didn’t comment on the portrayal of children in distress, because I considered that thread to have been well discussed, and had nothing further to add to the conversation.

And no, I don’t equate animals in distress as shown in those photographs - some of which apparently resulted in the animal dying - with that of humans.

Okay, but you still didn’t answer the question:

re: #118 CuriousLurker

With all due respect, you’re not really being very clear. Are you simply trying to be diplomatic in registering moral disapproval of the animal photos everyone posted? I’m asking because none of the animals appear to be in any more distress or danger than than the little Arab boys in the photo I was posting about, yet you didn’t express concern for them, so I’m a bit confused…

In any event, the thread is what it is. People were engaging in some much-need stress relief by posting photos of animals (and other kids) stuck on fences and other odd places, not being callous about animal suffering. I would think that would be obvious even to the casual observer, especially considering that many of the posters are also loving pet owners.

129 the silent one  Aug 3, 2014 11:31:23am

They’ve never allowed facts to get in their way of demonizing Muslims.

130 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 3, 2014 2:55:26pm

re: #127 CuriousLurker

I can’t really make heads or tails of all this, but if I had to guess, I would say that 1. it is this guy; 2. the kids are probably his cousins; 3. he’s sort of playing a tough “practical joke” on them; 4. all this takes place in the West Bank, probably in Deir Ballut. Just speculating here until more details become clear.

131 CuriousLurker  Aug 3, 2014 6:27:18pm

re: #130 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

That sounds like a reasonable enough conclusion based on what we know. Many thanks for your help in uncovering some more pieces of the puzzle.

132 Flavia  Aug 3, 2014 8:54:56pm

re: #7 b_sharp

Nobody HERE, no. But a thread elsewhere, someone insisted that “everyone was deliberately lying, they had fallen onto the fence”.

133 Flavia  Aug 3, 2014 8:56:40pm

re: #11 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Yes, that’s entirely a possibility, too.

134 Flavia  Aug 3, 2014 9:04:30pm

Stupid question: does anyone think I meant that an average, normal Palestinian hung those kids up on that fence? Because OMG, ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!

135 The Artist Formerly Known as Irenicum  Aug 3, 2014 10:01:22pm

I just wanna say I’m g;ad to see some old friends like Curious Lurker, Gus, StanleySea, Charles and others calling out this bullshit for what it is. Thank you one and all.

136 Linda Marie  Aug 5, 2014 7:27:10am

This guy is not trying to take down these kids. No matter what it is, or where it is from, all I know is that if I came upon kids strangling on a fence, especially if I am a big strong guy, the first thing I would do would be to lift them both so they are no longer strangling. The boy on the left, that adult is done with him, he is now involved in hanging up the second boy. Anyone w a brain knows to lift someone who is strangling so although you are trying to be nice and loving, this is an image of an arab man hanging kids on a fence. I don’t care about the where or why of this image, but this IS an excellent depiction of the Muslim mindset. You can try to spin it differently, but your eyes really do see what he is doing.

137 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 5, 2014 7:33:20am

re: #136 Linda Marie

This guy is not trying to take down these kids. No matter what it is, or where it is from, all I know is that if I came upon kids strangling on a fence, especially if I am a big strong guy, the first thing I would do would be to lift them both so they are no longer strangling. The boy on the left, that adult is done with him, he is now involved in hanging up the second boy. Anyone w a brain knows to lift someone who is strangling so although you are trying to be nice and loving, this is an image of an arab man hanging kids on a fence. I don’t care about the where or why of this image, but this IS an excellent depiction of the Muslim mindset. You can try to spin it differently, but your eyes really do see what he is doing.

Your comment is a great illustration of a neo-fascist mindset. Added bonus: you have no idea about this man’s religion, given that there are Christian Palestinians too.

138 Dr. Matt  Aug 5, 2014 7:44:01am

re: #136 Linda Marie

This guy is not trying to take down these kids. .

Proof?

139 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 7:44:06am

re: #136 Linda Marie

This guy is not trying to take down these kids. No matter what it is, or where it is from, all I know is that if I came upon kids strangling on a fence, especially if I am a big strong guy, the first thing I would do would be to lift them both so they are no longer strangling. The boy on the left, that adult is done with him, he is now involved in hanging up the second boy. Anyone w a brain knows to lift someone who is strangling so although you are trying to be nice and loving, this is an image of an arab man hanging kids on a fence. I don’t care about the where or why of this image, but this IS an excellent depiction of the Muslim mindset. You can try to spin it differently, but your eyes really do see what he is doing.

I take it you have three arms.

And yes, there are Mitt Romneys bullies in every culture.

BTW, the original story was of kids being used as a shield for buildings, which was soundly debunked.

140 Dr. Matt  Aug 5, 2014 7:45:22am

re: #136 Linda Marie

this is an image of an arab man hanging kids on a fence. I don’t care about the where or why of this image, but this IS an excellent depiction of the Muslim mindset. You can try to spin it differently, but your eyes really do see what he is doing.

Please provide proof that this man is Arabic and/or Muslim.

We’ll wait…..

141 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 5, 2014 7:46:09am

For the record, I think he probably is “hanging” them as a practical joke, see the links above. Can’t be sure since don’t know Arabic, but you could ask the guy whether it’s him on the photo and what exactly he was doing.

142 CuriousLurker  Aug 5, 2014 7:54:36am

re: #136 Linda Marie

So you created an account just so you could come in and spew your bigoted, knuckle-dragging generalizations. Your parents must be very proud.

143 jaunte  Aug 5, 2014 7:54:44am

re: #136 Linda Marie

I think you’re wrong.
You may be mistaken about him being ‘done’ with the kid on the left, because you’re used to reading from left to right, instead of right to left.
He’s holding the kid’s lower body away from the wall. This guy looks strong enough (if he was indeed bullying them) to just haul the kids up by the shirts and leave them hooked up there.

144 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 5, 2014 7:56:47am

re: #136 Linda Marie

I’ve seen plenty of white Christians do this kind of shit, so you’re a jerk, and a dumb one at that.

One might say you’re a dumb jerk.

145 CuriousLurker  Aug 5, 2014 7:59:19am

re: #141 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

For the record, I think he probably is “hanging” them as a practical joke, see the links above. Can’t be sure since don’t know Arabic, but you could ask the guy whether it’s him on the photo and what exactly he was doing.

It’ll never happen. People believe what they want to believe, and what they think they see says a LOT more about them than it does about the guy in the photo. It’s like a Rorschach test.

146 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 5, 2014 8:00:28am

This message seems to be from the mother of one of the boys who seems to be saying that it’s a “joke” hanging by the boys’ uncle.

facebook.com

147 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 8:08:05am

re: #144 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I’ve seen plenty of white Christians do this kind of shit, so you’re a jerk, and a dumb one at that.

One might say you’re a dumb jerk.

I’ve seen a white christian pick up a 7 year old kid and throw him out the door onto a gravel driveway that was three feet below the door.

I’ve seen a white christian pick up a kid and haul him into a house because he thought the kid was faking pain in his leg. His leg was broken.

So the idea that being a bully is somehow an exclusive Muslim trait is pure bull shit.

148 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 8:08:34am

re: #145 CuriousLurker

It’ll never happen. People believe what they want to believe, and what they think they see says a LOT more about them than it does about the guy in the photo. It’s like a Rorschach test.

I see a butterfly eating a puppy.

149 Charles Johnson  Aug 5, 2014 8:13:31am

This individual created an account just to post this at the end of the thread, then immediately signed out.

150 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 8:15:43am

re: #149 Charles Johnson

This individual created an account just to post this at the end of the thread, then immediately signed out.

Gives us a chance to improve our troll munching chops.

151 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2014 8:17:46am

re: #149 Charles Johnson

This individual created an account just to post this at the end of the thread, then immediately signed out.

Typical.

Pretty sure I found her on the twitterz.
ugh.

152 CuriousLurker  Aug 5, 2014 8:18:45am

Ah, I see the problem now: Full metal wingnut.

If you hover over “Linda Marie” you’ll see she entered a Yahoo email address. If you google the username you’ll quickly find her Twitter account and see that she’s a Fox News aficionado.

153 CuriousLurker  Aug 5, 2014 8:19:23am

re: #149 Charles Johnson

This individual created an account just to post this at the end of the thread, then immediately signed out.

Yeah, hit & run. Chickenshit.

154 CuriousLurker  Aug 5, 2014 8:21:26am

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

Typical.

Pretty sure I found her on the twitterz.
ugh.

Heh, yeah—not the sharpest tool in the shed, this one.

155 Interesting Times  Aug 5, 2014 8:22:30am

re: #152 CuriousLurker

Ah, I see the problem now: Full metal wingnut.

If you hover over “Linda Marie” you’ll see she entered a Yahoo email address. If you google the username you’ll quickly find her Twitter account and see that she’s a Fox News aficionado.

Well what have we here:


(if you go to the link, it’s to a facebook page with the very same photo being discussed in this thread. No wonder she’s all miffed about annoying facts and nuance getting in the way of her preferred narrative)

156 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 5, 2014 8:23:52am

re: #155 Interesting Times

Moshe Feiglin’s page.

157 Interesting Times  Aug 5, 2014 8:27:30am

re: #156 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Moshe Feiglin’s page.

Did you intend that reply for me? Forgive me if I’m missing something obvious, but I don’t see what he has to to with the tweet I posted…?

158 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 5, 2014 8:28:30am
In July 2014, during the 2014 Gaza Conflict, Feiglin outlined steps toward “achieving quiet in Gaza.” His plan included attacking all of Gaza, its infrastructure and military sites, without regard to civilian ‘human shields’. After conquering and annexing Gaza into Israel, that portion of Gaza’s “enemy population that is innocent of wrong-doing and separated itself from the armed terrorists will be treated in accordance with international law and will be allowed to leave.” After becoming part of Israel, Gaza would be repopulated by Jews.[34]
On August 4th, 2014, the Daily Mail newspaper alleged that Feiglin had called for concentration camps in Gaza, ‘the conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters’ and also for shipping the people living in Gaza across the world. [35]

About 20% of Israel’s citizens are Israeli Arabs. Feiglin was asked about Israel’s status as a “Jewish and democratic state” in a 2004 interview and stated: “Why should non-Jews have a say in the policy of a Jewish state?… For two thousand years, Jews dreamed of a Jewish state, not a democratic state. Democracy should serve the values of the state, not destroy them….”[47]

In a 2003 posting on the Manhigut Yehudit website (Hebrew version) setting forth a 20-point political program of his most important policy changes, Feiglin proposed replacing the Knesset with a bicameral legislature, whose upper house, which would control all “national affairs”, would be “composed exclusively of Jews.”

In his 2005 book “War of Dreams”, Feiglin wrote that his program was: “Israeli citizenship to Jews only [and] the immediate expulsion of any person of another people who claims any sort of sovereignty in the Land of Israel.”[50]

You can find places where we say the same things. You can also find places where we are different. I was in the army when Meir, Hashem yikom damo [may God avenge his blood], was [most] active, so I didn’t get to know him so well. But I can definitely say that the slogan “Kahane tzadak – Kahane was right” has proven itself many times.[57]

This neo-fascist is a member of Likud and a Deputy Speaker in Knesset.

159 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 5, 2014 8:29:39am

re: #157 Interesting Times

“(if you go to the link, it’s to a facebook page with the very same photo being discussed in this thread.”

Look closer whose page it is.

160 Charles Johnson  Aug 5, 2014 8:32:16am

Linda Marie is also a fan of Pamela Geller, of course.

161 CuriousLurker  Aug 5, 2014 8:32:18am

re: #155 Interesting Times

Well what have we here:

[Embedded content]

(if you go to the link, it’s to a facebook page with the very same photo being discussed in this thread. No wonder she’s all miffed about annoying facts and nuance getting in the way of her preferred narrative)

Why do you Obummer-loving, America-hating libtards always have to screw up the narrative with your stupid facts??

162 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 5, 2014 8:33:47am
Feiglin is banned from entering the United Kingdom due to a decision by Home Secretary Jacqui Smith, made public in March 2008, excluding Feiglin on the grounds that his presence in the country “would not be conducive to the public good.”[77]
163 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 5, 2014 8:35:40am

re: #162 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Feiglin wrote an article in 2009 entitled “I Am A Proud Homophobe.”[92] In 2012, he wrote several posts on his Facebook page detailing his views on gays. “The gay pride parade isn’t about rights. It’s about forcing the values of the minority onto the majority, effectively locking the majority into the proverbial closet. Homosexual “rights” undermine the normative family, the foundation of our nation.”[93]

Yet he is a libertarian.

164 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 8:46:55am

re: #163 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Yet he is a libertarian.

Libertarian in name only.

165 wrenchwench  Aug 5, 2014 8:47:51am

That nic rings a bell.

Could be a coincidence.

166 CuriousLurker  Aug 5, 2014 8:55:55am

re: #156 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Moshe Feiglin’s page.

Nice. There’s even an asshole in his comments with a Kahanist logo as his avatar saying that since the kids are weapons one needn’t feel bad about “neutralizing” them. And that’s just in the first 50 of 347 comments.

Disgusting

167 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 5, 2014 9:08:02am

That’s a pretty chilling article.

israelnationalnews.com

168 b_sharp  Aug 5, 2014 9:08:46am

re: #166 CuriousLurker

Nice. There’s even an asshole in his comments with a Kahanist logo as his avatar saying that since the kids are weapons one needn’t feel bad about “neutralizing” them. And that’s just in the first 50 of 347 comments.

Disgusting

The Internet has given voice to a lot of people with some very nasty repressed thoughts.
And they claim progressives are the emotional ones.

169 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2014 9:11:48am

re: #167 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

That’s a pretty chilling article.

israelnationalnews.com

wow.

170 CuriousLurker  Aug 5, 2014 9:23:42am

re: #160 Charles Johnson

You were very, very wise to run away screaming from the right-wingers when you did. It’s a pity that some of the people who were here during the process didn’t learn from your experience and are still choosing to support the worst of the so-called “fringe”.


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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 201018It was a full weekend here at the pond. 8 yards of top soil were (was?) delivered Friday afternoon Saturday was prepping the butterfly bed:First, a good weed whacking, a bit of leveling, then laying down weed barrier.On top of ...
dangerman
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 201011The weather held out just long enough that we could start painting the deck. It is tedious work and still quite tiring in the heat.Just one line in the notes says 'paint deck' but it's gonna translate into many, many ...
dangerman
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For What It’s Worth - Buffalo Springfield (Cover by Del McCoury Band and Friends) Now Available Digitally:rainmaker.lnk.to See the new release from this jam session of "One Kind Favor" (See That My Grave Is Kept Clean) - Blind Lemon Jeffeson.YouTube A few months ago, a bunch of friends got together to play music ...
Thanos
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Trevor Noah: A Primer on 21st Century “Militias” [VIDEO] A toxic mix of racism and paranoid conspiracy fantasies has propagated the worst among us to arm themselves to the teeth in anticipation for the slaughter of their fellow citizens. Militias have been a part of America since it ...
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(49) Mandolin Orange - Unknown Legend (Neil Young Cover)Echo Mountain stream. July 24th, 2020.
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The Expanse - Season 5 Official Trailer The future of The Belt has begun as Marco Inaros wages Armageddon against the Inners for a lifetime of oppression and injustice. » Watch the new season of The Expanse now exclusively with your Prime Membership: bit.ly» SUBSCRIBE: bit.ly ...
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Cellist Plays to Mourn Cathedral Shelled in Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict A historic cathedral has been shelled amid the Armenian-Azerbaijan conflict in the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh, or Artsakh, region, where hundreds have been killed and tens of thousands displaced after two weeks of new fighting. On the evening of Thursday 8 ...
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