Interview With Michael Brown’s Friend: He Was ‘Shot Like an Animal’

“I definitely think he’s guilty of murder”
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Dorin Johnson, who was with Michael Brown when he was gunned down in the street by a Ferguson, Missouri police officer, describes what happened in more detail in an interview with KSDK; this new account is completely consistent with his previous accounts.

Johnson breaks down at one point, as he talks about seeing his friend shot down “like an animal.”

Please note that even though Johnson was the closest eyewitness to this shooting, neither the St. Louis County police department nor the Ferguson police department have interviewed him to date about the incident.

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1 Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2014 12:08:27pm
2 Iwouldprefernotto  Aug 13, 2014 12:09:49pm

No matter what happens, this story is not going to go away.

3 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 13, 2014 12:14:22pm
4 lawhawk  Aug 13, 2014 12:16:44pm

Charles,

A clarification/distinction needs to be made. There are multiple police departments involved here. There’s a St. Louis PD (which is the city police force within St. Louis proper) and the St. Louis County Police, which is involved in this case (and whose officer was involved in the shooting this morning).

That’s in addition to the Ferguson PD and state police, plus mutual support from other local police departments involved.

So far, Johnson has not been interviewed by either the Ferguson PD or the St. Louis County Police.

The St. Louis city police are not involved in this matter.

5 Lidane  Aug 13, 2014 12:17:31pm

Meanwhile, BillO is busy whitesplaining the outrage over Michael Brown’s murder:

O’Reilly: “Many African Americans” Believe Michael Brown’s Killing Was An Injustice “Without Knowing The Facts”

And one of the Faux News spokesmodels is worried that people might use this murder as a political tool.

6 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 12:18:02pm

He too will be dragged through the mud. Brave guy though.

7 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 12:19:05pm

re: #5 Lidane

Meanwhile, BillO is busy whitesplaining the outrage over Michael Brown’s murder:

O’Reilly: “Many African Americans” Believe Michael Brown’s Killing Was An Injustice “Without Knowing The Facts”

And one of the Faux News spokesmodels is worried that people might use this murder as a political tool.

Fox can fuck off for all the race baiting they do. It doesn’t matter if it’s this asshole or that other asshole Hannity who had no problem befriending a white nationalist. Fox is filled with racism and it starts with Roger Ailes who of course was behind the Willie Horotn ad.

8 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 12:19:35pm

re: #5 Lidane

Meanwhile, BillO is busy whitesplaining the outrage over Michael Brown’s murder:

O’Reilly: “Many African Americans” Believe Michael Brown’s Killing Was An Injustice “Without Knowing The Facts”

And one of the Faux News spokesmodels is worried that people might use this murder as a political tool.

“Without knowing the facts,” i.e. without knowing the excuse the cops are going to offer for why a white officer should be cleared of any crimes for shooting a black teen multiple times in the back.

9 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 13, 2014 12:20:41pm

re: #5 Lidane

Meanwhile, BillO is busy whitesplaining the outrage over Michael Brown’s murder:

O’Reilly: “Many African Americans” Believe Michael Brown’s Killing Was An Injustice “Without Knowing The Facts”

And one of the Faux News spokesmodels is worried that people might use this murder as a political tool.

Not Knowing the Facts has never stopped Fox before when they wanna be outraged at something…

10 Kid A  Aug 13, 2014 12:21:12pm

And the “World burns while Obama plays golf” stupid fucking meme has reached a fever pitch among the wingnutariat. I swear the End Times are upon us, our country is so stupid.

11 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 12:21:31pm

re: #9 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Not Knowing the Facts has never stopped Fox before when they wanna be outraged at something…

Yeah but this is different because black people and Bill O has to pontificate and lecture them so they know better.

12 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 12:23:12pm

Somebody should go to jail for not interviewing the key witness = deliberately botching investigation.

13 Kid A  Aug 13, 2014 12:24:29pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

But BillO ate soul food in Harlem so he can’t race bait.
///

14 Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2014 12:25:16pm

Jim Hoft is now in full-on hate incitement mode about this, surprising no one.

15 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 13, 2014 12:25:23pm

Maybe they are preparing for information that they don’t expect people to like at the news conference.

16 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 12:25:27pm

re: #13 Kid A

But BillO ate soul food in Harlem so he can’t race bait.
//:

Heh did he seriously claim something like that?

17 Single-handed sailor  Aug 13, 2014 12:27:59pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Heh did he seriously claim something like that?

He was shocked there was no cussing or fighting by blacks while he ate.

18 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 13, 2014 12:28:24pm

re: #15 NJDhockeyfan

Maybe they are preparing for information that they don’t expect people to like at the news conference.

Almost as if they wanna create as much outrage as possible to distract, distract, distract.

19 A Mom Anon  Aug 13, 2014 12:30:05pm

re: #15 NJDhockeyfan

Oh come ON with these freaking cops. 40 vehicles for a news conference? Seriously?

A whole lot of people need to be fired for the way this whole thing has been handled. The police and city officials haven’t done a fucking thing to de-escalate this situation at all.

My grandpa was a cop, he actually got training in how to ease tensions in bad situations. Do they not train people for the job with those skills anymore?

20 Single-handed sailor  Aug 13, 2014 12:30:26pm

Oh, link

21 Kilroy01  Aug 13, 2014 12:30:42pm

If they are turning over the body of Michael today it won’t take long for the family to have their expert tell if he was shot in the back.
Can’t imagine that will calm things down.

22 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 12:31:43pm

re: #17 Single-handed sailor

He was shocked there was no cussing or fighting by blacks while he ate.

Oh yes, I do remember that.

23 Bulworth  Aug 13, 2014 12:32:16pm

re:
#9

Hey, indeed

24 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 12:32:16pm

Well, Middle School orientation was a joke.

We get her class schedule in the first 10 minutes, but are told we need to grab an orientation package, then wait in one line for her books, and another line for her PE clothes.

It took 40 minutes to get the orientation package, then we waited 45 minutes in the book line before someone came out:

“We’ll also be handing out books tomorrow and Friday during class, and they can just buy their PE gear during the 1st class, but you can wait in line and get them today if you want to.”

Whole lot of pissed off parents.

25 A Mom Anon  Aug 13, 2014 12:32:45pm

re: #21 Kilroy01

I know there’s only so much tampering the Ferguson police and ME could have done, I really hope that didn’t happen though. Someone needs to be brought to Justice for this, this kid was murdered in cold blood.

26 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 13, 2014 12:32:59pm

re: #21 Kilroy01

If they are turning over the body of Michael today it won’t take long for the family to have their expert tell if he was shot in the back.
Can’t image that will calm things down.

It also means that they have decided what their spin will be to make him out to be the evil troublemaker.

27 Lidane  Aug 13, 2014 12:32:59pm

re: #19 A Mom Anon

A whole lot of people need to be fired for the way this whole thing has been handled. The police and city officials haven’t done a fucking thing to de-escalate this situation at all.

At this point, I suspect they’re deliberately poisoning the well to protect the killer.

Let’s face it — with the way the cops have handled this, it will be almost impossible to prosecute Brown’s murder since seating a jury anywhere in Missouri is going to be a nightmare.

28 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 12:33:19pm

re: #19 A Mom Anon

Oh come ON with these freaking cops. 40 vehicles for a news conference? Seriously?

A whole lot of people need to be fired for the way this whole thing has been handled. The police and city officials haven’t done a fucking thing to de-escalate this situation at all.

My grandpa was a cop, he actually got training in how to ease tensions in bad situations. Do they not train people for the job with those skills anymore?

That training took a backseat to turning every cop into a wannabe SWAT officer, exchanging tension easing and deescalation for accurate shooting and beating the shit out of suspects and not leaving too many marks.

29 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 13, 2014 12:33:47pm

Mrs. Doubtfire currently sold out on Amazon. Used copies available for between $100 and $500.

30 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 12:34:28pm

re: #26 William Barnett-Lewis

It also means that they have decided what their spin will be to make him out to be the evil troublemaker.

Considering the news that the body is being released came out shortly after the PD saying that their cop sustained facial injuries, I’d say they’ve decided on the “cop in fear for his life” routine.

31 klys  Aug 13, 2014 12:34:37pm

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

Mrs. Doubtfire currently sold out on Amazon. Used copies available for between $100 and $500.

I’ve ordered his stand-up specials (the two later ones) on DVD, but those were out of stock by the point I ordered. So I will wait.

32 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 12:35:29pm

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

Mrs. Doubtfire currently sold out on Amazon. Used copies available for between $100 and $500.

Wow. I watched some of the Birdcage last night on Netlfix. I really liked that one. Robin and Nathan Lane were great in it. So were Hank Azaria and Gene Hackman.

33 Kilroy01  Aug 13, 2014 12:36:08pm

re: #30 Targetpractice

The “He’s coming right at me!” Defense. Running backwards in this case.

34 danarchy  Aug 13, 2014 12:37:09pm

re: #12 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Somebody should go to jail for not interviewing the key witness = deliberately botching investigation.

Here is the police statement on that for what it is worth:
St. Louis County police spokesman Brian Schellman why police haven’t interviewed Johnson.

“We have reached out to him and looked for him on numerous occasions. We’ve also contacted his friends,” he said. “We reached out to his attorney’s office, we put a call in to his attorney, and we’re waiting on a return phone call.”

35 lawhawk  Aug 13, 2014 12:37:15pm

re: #4 lawhawk

BTW, based on the insignia on their uniforms, it looks like the sniper and other officer atop the armored vehicle are in fact St. Louis County Police officers.

The St. Louis County police also have a map tool indicating crimes that they’ve responded to.

36 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 12:38:34pm

re: #34 danarchy

Here is the police statement on that for what it is worth:
St. Louis County police spokesman Brian Schellman why police haven’t interviewed Johnson.

“We have reached out to him and looked for him on numerous occasions. We’ve also contacted his friends,” he said. “We reached out to his attorney’s office, we put a call in to his attorney, and we’re waiting on a return phone call.”

So their excuse for not interviewing the key eyewitness on the day of the shooting is because they haven’t been able to get in touch with him.

Uh-huh, sure./////

37 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 13, 2014 12:38:35pm

re: #34 danarchy

Here is the police statement on that for what it is worth:
St. Louis County police spokesman Brian Schellman why police haven’t interviewed Johnson.

“We have reached out to him and looked for him on numerous occasions. We’ve also contacted his friends,” he said. “We reached out to his attorney’s office, we put a call in to his attorney, and we’re waiting on a return phone call.”

We sent him a fax to a number we found listed from 1996…

38 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 13, 2014 12:39:39pm

Warhammer fantasy battle:

My halfling chefs!

39 Testy Toad T  Aug 13, 2014 12:39:48pm

re: #30 Targetpractice

Considering the news that the body is being released came out shortly after the PD saying that their cop sustained facial injuries, I’d say they’ve decided on the “cop in fear for his life” routine.

Which is darkly funny, three or five days later, because I’m not sure the post-shooting handling of the case isn’t more egregious than the actual shooting of Brown.

It’s very easy to have one dumbshit do one dumbshit thing in what he perceived to be the heat of the moment. Everybody since then has had time to think about what they’re doing, what message they’re sending, and what goals they are attempting to achieve, with opportunities to talk with each other to make sure they’re not missing any important angle… and this is what we get.

40 Kilroy01  Aug 13, 2014 12:39:51pm

re: #34 danarchy

I think you have just damaged my crap-detector.. OK.. destroyed it.

41 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 12:40:04pm

re: #34 danarchy

Here is the police statement on that for what it is worth:
St. Louis County police spokesman Brian Schellman why police haven’t interviewed Johnson.

“We have reached out to him and looked for him on numerous occasions. We’ve also contacted his friends,” he said. “We reached out to his attorney’s office, we put a call in to his attorney, and we’re waiting on a return phone call.”

Seems like bullshit is a specialty with this bunch.

42 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 13, 2014 12:40:15pm

OT:

43 nines09  Aug 13, 2014 12:41:02pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

I’ve talked to cops (local and state and city) in the past 10 or so years and they have a problem with some of the newer “recruits”. They think they are “The Solution” and that “solution” is all cracking skulls and quick draws. I’ve been screwed with in my time by sociopathic cops and have had my share of nickel rides as a youth, but the new breed are wanna be hard guys. Not all, but lots. Just look at the photos from Ferguson and tell me what you see. That’s not cops. It’s something else and it’s not good.

44 Franklin  Aug 13, 2014 12:42:18pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

Wow. I watched some of the Birdcage last night on Netlfix. I really liked that one. Robin and Nathan Lane were great in it. So were Hank Azaria and Gene Hackman.

I watched The Fisher King on Netflix last night, maybe Birdcage tonight.

Should I rent Dead Poets Society on iTunes or watch Birdcage on Netflix?

45 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 12:42:58pm

Either the Ferguson PD really are clown shoes or they think we’re stupid. Even when Trayvon Martin was shot, the cops made sure to talk with every witness, both eye and ear, before the night was through. But the FPD expects us to believe that the one eyewitness to the entire chain of events has been totally unavailable to them for 4 days, which is why they’re running their entire investigation based upon the cop’s report.

46 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 12:43:07pm

re: #38 Aunty Entity Dragon

Warhammer fantasy battle:

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My halfling chefs!

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Empire?

I chose years ago to limit myself just to 40k, but if I did run Fantasy, I’d probably have gone with Skaven, with Vampire Counts a close second.

47 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 12:44:03pm

Hey, Charles - any chance of streaming the PD presser here?

48 Testy Toad T  Aug 13, 2014 12:44:25pm

re: #45 Targetpractice

Either the Ferguson PD really are clown shoes or they think we’re stupid. Even when Trayvon Martin was shot, the cops made sure to talk with every witness, both eye and ear, before the night was through. But the FPD expects us to believe that the one eyewitness to the entire chain of events has been totally unavailable to them for 4 days, which is why they’re running their entire investigation based upon the cop’s report.

Arizona, feeling sad about being out of the Meth Lab of Democracy spotlight, is quietly hatching an Arpaio-led clusterfuck as we speak.

49 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 13, 2014 12:44:26pm

re: #46 Kragar

Empire?

I chose years ago to limit myself just to 40k, but if I did run Fantasy, I’d probably have gone with Skaven, with Vampire Counts a close second.

I stick with historical: WWII, American Civil War, Napoleonic and most recently Samurai.

50 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 12:45:02pm

re: #44 Franklin Brewsevelt

I watched The Fisher King on Netflix last night, maybe Birdcage tonight.

Should I rent Dead Poets Society on iTunes or watch Birdcage on Netflix?

Depends on your mood. I need to give DPS another shot now that I am older and wiser and now an English minor graduate.

51 Ace-o-aces  Aug 13, 2014 12:46:24pm
lease note that even though Johnson is the only apparent eyewitness to this shooting, neither the St. Louis County police department nor the Ferguson police department have interviewed him to date about the incident.

Too busy pretending to be in the Army I guess.

52 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 13, 2014 12:46:27pm

re: #46 Kragar

Empire?

I chose years ago to limit myself just to 40k, but if I did run Fantasy, I’d probably have gone with Skaven, with Vampire Counts a close second.

Tilea dogs of war. No longer an official army, although you could run it as Empire if you like. Updated unofficial rules are at tilea.net.

FWIW, my Empire army is proably around 15,000 oints. Insane.

53 BeachDem  Aug 13, 2014 12:47:02pm

re: #45 Targetpractice

Either the Ferguson PD really are clown shoes or they think we’re stupid. Even when Trayvon Martin was shot, the cops made sure to talk with every witness, both eye and ear, before the night was through. But the FPD expects us to believe that the one eyewitness to the entire chain of events has been totally unavailable to them for 4 days, which is why they’re running their entire investigation based upon the cop’s report.

Gee—all they had to do was watch MSNBC, which apparently had no trouble finding him.

54 Danny  Aug 13, 2014 12:47:45pm

re: #44 Franklin Brewsevelt

I watched The Fisher King on Netflix last night, maybe Birdcage tonight.

Should I rent Dead Poets Society on iTunes or watch Birdcage on Netflix?

Wow, we watched The Fisher King last night too! Dead Poets Society is in my top three favorites.

55 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 13, 2014 12:48:38pm

I also ran my Skaven army against my kids ogres last year. It was a massacre. I was slaughtered.

56 ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2014 12:48:40pm

Charles, I note in your page post you say: “Please note that even though Johnson is the only apparent eyewitness to this shooting…”

Is that true? I thought the young lady on the apartment patio saw it, and didn’t his friend say the cop car was straddling the road at an angle blocking it off and at least three cars were stopped?

Just going for clarification. I am also hoping there are other witnesses that will collaborate his friends version of what he saw, at least for the FBI and Justice department and maybe for the local prosecutors and any one else willing to take this case.

57 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 12:49:14pm

re: #43 nines09

I’ve talked to cops (local and state and city) in the past 10 or so years and they have a problem with some of the newer “recruits”. They think they are “The Solution” and that “solution” is all cracking skulls and quick draws. I’ve been screwed with in my time by sociopathic cops and have had my share of nickel rides as a youth, but the new breed are wanna be hard guys. Not all, but lots. Just look at the photos from Ferguson and tell me what you see. That’s not cops. It’s something else and it’s not good.

I’ve noticed that a lot of ex-Army guys who didn’t go private security have gone into law enforcement. And that’s a recipe for disaster, putting guys whose training and experience has prepared them for treating every situation as a potential shoot-out into a career where shooting should be the very last option.

58 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 12:49:27pm

re: #52 Aunty Entity Dragon

Tilea dogs of war. No longer an official army, although you could run it as Empire if you like. Updated unofficial rules are at tilea.net.

FWIW, my Empire army is proably around 15,000 oints. Insane.

Ran an Apocalyose scale fight fielding a full Space Wolves Great Company, with Inquisitorial Storm troopers and IG with a Baneblade support a few years back. I think the full list topped out at 15,000 pts.

59 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 12:50:56pm

re: #55 Aunty Entity Dragon

I also ran my Skaven army against my kids ogres last year. It was a massacre. I was slaughtered.

Ran DE against a ‘Nid force last year. The guy swore splinter weapons were the most BS guns ever.

60 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 13, 2014 12:51:21pm

re: #58 Kragar

Ran an Apocalyose scale fight fielding a full Space Wolves Great Company, with Inquisitorial Storm troopers and IG with a Baneblade support a few years back. I think the full list topped out at 15,000 pts.

My kid is building Cheese Wolves Space Wolves right now.

61 Franklin  Aug 13, 2014 12:52:41pm

re: #54 Danny

Wow, we watched The Fisher King last night too! Dead Poets Society is in my top three favorites.

Heck, If I can get the kids to ed early enough tonight, I’l watch Dead Poets and Birdcage!

62 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 13, 2014 12:52:59pm

re: #59 Kragar

Ran DE against a ‘Nid force last year. The guy swore splinter weapons were the most BS guns ever.

That is why the Most Holy Emperor, beloved by all, blessed us with power armor to defeat the iniquitous weapons of the unrighteous and the xenos.

63 Cheechako  Aug 13, 2014 12:53:11pm

Take a very close look at the police/swat team officers in Ferguson. Most have their faces covered either by a gas mask, face mask or baklava. They’re wearing their gas masks even when they’re just standing around a long ways from the action. Also notice that name tags are not visible or they are printed in black ink on a very dark background. Many are wearing their badges but the numbers on the badge are very small and difficult to read or be photographed.

All of the above make it very difficult to identify individual officers by eye sight or camera.

Trying to hide their identities if they’re observed or filmed doing something “illegal”?

Or just part of the new police/military persona?

64 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 13, 2014 12:53:41pm
65 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 12:53:47pm

re: #61 Franklin Brewsevelt

Heck, If I can get the kids to ed early enough tonight, I’l watch Dead Poets and Birdcage!

Have the kids seen any of the Night at the Museum movies? Not classics by any stretch but I remember taking my kid brother to the first one and him enjoying Robin as Teddy Roosevelt.

66 Kilroy01  Aug 13, 2014 12:54:41pm

Like press conference KSDK

Starts in a few minutes

67 aagcobb  Aug 13, 2014 12:55:26pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

Yeah but this is different because black people and Bill O has to pontificate and lecture them so they know better.

An unarmed black kid was shot and the cop is completely innocent; you can’t explain that!

68 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 12:55:59pm

re: #60 Aunty Entity Dragon

My kid is building Cheese Wolves Space Wolves right now.

Haven’t gotten the new book yet, been broke and have a birthday coming up, so seeing if friends and family come thru for me. I am planning on picking up a Stormfang or 2 though.

69 leftynyc  Aug 13, 2014 12:56:27pm

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

So is Aladdin. It’s on backorder.

70 Testy Toad T  Aug 13, 2014 12:56:47pm

re: #63 Cheechako

Trying to hide their identities if they’re observed or filmed doing something “illegal”?

Or just part of the new police/military persona?

The fact that they have so many of them so ready at hand should probably answer your question.

71 klys  Aug 13, 2014 12:57:20pm
72 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 12:57:24pm

re: #69 leftynyc

So is Aladdin. It’s on backorder.

Ahh another good one for the kids. Definitely a good one to watch with the niece when she’s older.

73 DodgerFan1988  Aug 13, 2014 12:57:40pm

The Right Wing Smear Machine are out in full force attacking Michael Brown’s background, calling him thug, gangbanger, drug dealer, and criminal. Typical race baiting from conservative bloggers.
breitbart.com
mrconservative.com

74 aagcobb  Aug 13, 2014 12:58:02pm

re: #24 Kragar

Well, Middle School orientation was a joke.

We get her class schedule in the first 10 minutes, but are told we need to grab an orientation package, then wait in one line for her books, and another line for her PE clothes.

It took 40 minutes to get the orientation package, then we waited 45 minutes in the book line before someone came out:

“We’ll also be handing out books tomorrow and Friday during class, and they can just buy their PE gear during the 1st class, but you can wait in line and get them today if you want to.”

Whole lot of pissed off parents.

Government is pretty good at making people wait in line. Only Disney theme parks can match them!

75 Danny  Aug 13, 2014 12:58:36pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Jumanji is fun too.

76 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 12:58:40pm

re: #73 DodgerFan1988

The Right Wing Smear Machine are out in full force attacking Michael Brown’s background, calling him thug, gangbanger, drug dealer, and criminal. Typical race baiting from conservative bloggers.
breitbart.com
mrconservative.com

I really wish I could be surprised at this but people like Breitbart thrive on this shit.

77 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 12:59:06pm

re: #75 Danny

Jumanji is fun too.

Oh certainly. Her dad (my brother) and I loved that movie growing up. A fun book too.

78 Testy Toad T  Aug 13, 2014 12:59:16pm

re: #73 DodgerFan1988

Does “gangbanger” even mean anything aside from “young black urban male”?

Honest-to-God question.

79 aagcobb  Aug 13, 2014 12:59:36pm

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

Mrs. Doubtfire currently sold out on Amazon. Used copies available for between $100 and $500.

Amazing, since its one of the most televised movies on cable.

80 danarchy  Aug 13, 2014 12:59:38pm

re: #63 Cheechako

Take a very close look at the police/swat team officers in Ferguson. Most have their faces covered either by a gas mask, face mask or baklava. They’re wearing their gas masks even when they’re just standing around a long ways from the action. Also notice that name tags are not visible or they are printed in black ink on a very dark background. Many are wearing their badges but the numbers on the badge are very small and difficult to read or be photographed.

Think you mean balaclava, although picturing cops smeared with baklava was amusing.

81 Testy Toad T  Aug 13, 2014 12:59:56pm

re: #79 aagcobb

Amazing, since its one of the most televised movies on cable.

VCRs, how the fuck do they work?

82 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 1:00:54pm

Chuck Johnson

“Google me”

“Wow, you broke the Dan Rather story?”

“NO!”

83 leftynyc  Aug 13, 2014 1:01:07pm

re: #44 Franklin Brewsevelt

I vote Birdcage. One of the funniest movies I’ve ever seen.

84 ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2014 1:01:18pm

I think I need to email Billbo O’Really and let him know I am a white person, never in any trouble with the law, home owner, voter, etc., and I too am suspicious of the shooting by the police in Ferguson Missouri.

It might be good if tons of other white people did the same. That fool and the rest of the FOX Fuckers need to hear it.

85 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 1:01:20pm

Did the presser officially start yet? I’m watching and it looks like someone is answering questions - but there’s no audio.

Anybody else having the same problem?

86 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:01:40pm

re: #82 Kragar

Chuck Johnson

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“Google me”

“Wow, you broke the Dan Rather story?”

“NO!”

millions of readers? Dude isn’t even the most Charles Johnson the blogger let alone the most famous Charles Johnson.

87 Bubblehead II  Aug 13, 2014 1:02:01pm

re: #85 makeitstop

Did the presser officially start yet? I’m watching and it looks like someone is answering questions - but there’s no audio.

Anybody else having the same problem?

Same here. No audio.

88 klys  Aug 13, 2014 1:02:21pm

re: #85 makeitstop

Did the presser officially start yet? I’m watching and it looks like someone is answering questions - but there’s no audio.

Anybody else having the same problem?

I guess they figure it’s more truthful this way.

////

Yeah, no audio here either.

89 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:03:07pm

re: #84 ObserverArt

I think I need to email Billbo O’Really and let him know I am a white person, never in any trouble with the law, home owner, voter, etc., and I too am suspicious of the shooting by the police in Ferguson Missouri.

It might be good if tons of other white people did the same. That fool and the rest of the FOX Fuckers need to hear it.

Not a bad idea but I know the spin already if a bunch did that, complaining about white liberal guilt and shit like that. You’re right though. He does need to hear that plenty of white people like you and myself have plenty of suspicions of the Ferguson PD.

90 aagcobb  Aug 13, 2014 1:03:07pm

re: #43 nines09

I’ve talked to cops (local and state and city) in the past 10 or so years and they have a problem with some of the newer “recruits”. They think they are “The Solution” and that “solution” is all cracking skulls and quick draws. I’ve been screwed with in my time by sociopathic cops and have had my share of nickel rides as a youth, but the new breed are wanna be hard guys. Not all, but lots. Just look at the photos from Ferguson and tell me what you see. That’s not cops. It’s something else and it’s not good.

The feds are giving local cops grenade launchers.

91 Bulworth  Aug 13, 2014 1:03:35pm

Somehow I was unaware that Mike Judge is on Twitter. Followed.

92 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 1:03:41pm

re: #82 Kragar

In every 2nd tweet he tries to prove how significant he is.

93 b.d.  Aug 13, 2014 1:03:45pm

re: #82 Kragar

Chuck Johnson

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“Google me”

“Wow, you broke the Dan Rather story?”

“NO!”

Hahaha, from her timeline, it would have fit in last night.

94 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:04:11pm

re: #90 aagcobb

The feds are giving local cops grenade launchers.

Disgusts me that the Feds are giving them to them. A lot of this seems to go back ot the problem of having a bloated defense budget.

95 Bubblehead II  Aug 13, 2014 1:04:57pm

Try this link for the presser.

fox2now.com

96 Bulworth  Aug 13, 2014 1:05:25pm

re:

“Google me”

“Wow, you broke the Dan Rather story?”

“NO! But I iz Awardwinning Journalist!!!!1”

97 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 1:05:56pm

NBC streaming presser

Dude is lying his ass off. Claimed there was no no-fly zone, and that they had interviewed key witness.

And that was in the first 10 seconds.

98 Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2014 1:06:03pm
99 ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2014 1:06:13pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

Not a bad idea but I know the spin already if a bunch did that, complaining about white liberal guilt and shit like that. You’re right though. He does need to hear that plenty of white people like you and myself have plenty of suspicions of the Ferguson PD.

The burden for excuses would be on him. He can pshaw all he wants, but I still believe deep down the message is heard through the denial. Even if it falls through the big ol’ hole in his soul.

100 Bulworth  Aug 13, 2014 1:06:14pm

re:
#92

DO U KNOW WHO I AM????????111

101 b.d.  Aug 13, 2014 1:06:27pm

re: #92 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

In every 2nd tweet he tries to prove how significant he is.

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He doesn’t even have a blue check next to him. HOW MANY JOURNALISM AWARDS DO I HAVE TO WIN TO GET A BLUE CHECK MARK NEXT TO MY NAME!?!?!?!

102 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 1:06:30pm

re: #93 b.d.

Hahaha, from her timeline, it would have fit in last night.

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Youtube Video

103 aagcobb  Aug 13, 2014 1:06:36pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Have the kids seen any of the Night at the Museum movies? Not classics by any stretch but I remember taking my kid brother to the first one and him enjoying Robin as Teddy Roosevelt.

There is another one coming out soon. It will be bittersweet to see him on the big screen one last time.

104 Bulworth  Aug 13, 2014 1:07:14pm

re:
#97

Maybe they’ll also claim to have Obama’s “real” foreign birth certificate.

105 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:07:41pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

I stand by my characterization of that rag founded by a McCarthyite Jim Crow apologist.

106 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:08:24pm

re: #103 aagcobb

There is another one coming out soon. It will be bittersweet to see him on the big screen one last time.

Yeah I saw that. The late Phillip Seymour Hoffman has one last film out too.

107 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 13, 2014 1:08:42pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

I really wish I could be surprised at this but people like Breitbart thrive on this shit.

Woe, I read one of those articles:

…In Chicago, just 300 miles from St. Louis, 82 people were shot in Chicago, 14 fatally, over the Fourth of July weekend… Although the statistics are not reported, a safe guess would be that of the 82 people shot, virtually all were black. But where is the outrage?

He is railing on the blacks for not getting more outraged, and earlier?

108 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2014 1:08:59pm

My oldest stepson just turned 52 on July 31 and yesterday he collapsed while doing yardwork at his house in Kankakee, Illinois, and hit his head on the pavement. Paramedics intubated him and then he was airlifted to Saint Joseph Medical Center in Joliet, where he underwent emergency brain surgery for about six hours and is in critical condition.
The poor kid has had a lifetime of chronic health problems, which have worsened a lot since he was forced to take an early disability retirement a few years ago and his insurance hit the lifetime cap before ACA took effect.
I’m pretty much an atheist, but my kids still believe, especially in the power of prayer, so to those so inclined, I thank you.

109 klys  Aug 13, 2014 1:09:46pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

My oldest stepson just turned 52 on July 31 and yesterday he collapsed while doing yardwork at his house in Kankakee, Illinois, and hit his head on the pavement. Paramedics intubated him and then he was airlifted to Saint Joseph Medical Center in Joliet, where he underwent emergency brain surgery for about six hours and is in critical condition.
The poor kid has had a lifetime of chronic health problems, which have worsened a lot since he was forced to take an early disability retirement a few years ago and his insurance hit the lifetime cap before ACA took effect.
I’m pretty much an atheist, but my kids still believe, especially in the power of prayer, so to those so inclined, I thank you.

Oh no. Sending thoughts to you and yours. {{B_S}}

110 Franklin  Aug 13, 2014 1:10:05pm

Holy Crap, have to read this whole Chuckles thread:

111 Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2014 1:10:09pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

I stand by my characterization of that rag founded by a McCarthyite Jim Crow apologist.

Be fair. He was a polysyllabic Jim Crow apologist.

112 SteelPH  Aug 13, 2014 1:10:30pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

{{ Backwoods_Sleuth and family }}

113 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:10:43pm

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Woe, I read one of those articles:

…In Chicago, just 300 miles from St. Louis, 82 people were shot in Chicago, 14 fatally, over the Fourth of July weekend… Although the statistics are not reported, a safe guess would be that of the 82 people shot, virtually all were black. But where is the outrage?

He is railing on the blacks for not getting more outraged, and earlier?

This is the typical right wing bullshit. Why aren’t blacks more outraged about this blah blah. Oh I dunno asshole maybe it’s because an officer of the law shooting a kid straight out of high school? And of course the thing is that people do get outraged at those other murders and when they do, they get slandered as “community activists” as if being one is a bad thing. Why the hell he’s concern trolling about Chicago, a city by his own admission is 300 miles away though is beyond me.

114 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 1:10:47pm

The chief is asking that ‘the protests be cancelled.’

Seriously.

115 Bulworth  Aug 13, 2014 1:11:13pm

omg this press conference….

116 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:11:42pm

re: #111 Decatur Deb

Be fair. He was a polysyllabic Jim Crow apologist.

Hahaha, brilliant.

117 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 1:11:55pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

I stand by my characterization of that rag founded by a McCarthyite Jim Crow apologist.

Would it be fair to call them apartheid-loving Franco-defenders?

118 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:12:12pm

re: #114 makeitstop

The chief is asking that ‘the protests be cancelled.’

Seriously.

Yeah how dare they be upset Chief. Unbelievable.

119 leftynyc  Aug 13, 2014 1:12:14pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Ahh another good one for the kids. Definitely a good one to watch with the niece when she’s older.

OK - I’ll pretend to have a child in my house ;-)

120 aagcobb  Aug 13, 2014 1:12:34pm

re: #104 Bulworth

re:
#97

Maybe they’ll also claim to have Obama’s “real” foreign birth certificate.

The “Cold Case” Posse is all over Kenya right now, I’m sure. They will bring it to Hillary’s inauguration on January 20, 2017.

121 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 13, 2014 1:12:45pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Jim Hoft is now in full-on hate incitement mode about this, surprising no one.

Bryan Fischer too.

122 Bulworth  Aug 13, 2014 1:12:47pm

re:
#108

Wow, so sorry to hear. Hope he recovers soon!

123 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:12:51pm

re: #117 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Would it be fair to call them apartheid-loving Franco-defenders?

Well if WFB defended apartheid and Franco the way he did Jim Crow and Joseph McCarthy, absolutely that’s fair.

124 klys  Aug 13, 2014 1:13:10pm

They claim that the officer went to the hospital for his facial injuries. But he didn’t even know which side of the face.

125 Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2014 1:13:25pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good thoughts.

126 wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2014 1:13:35pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

{{{Backwoods_Sleuth }}} {{{Stepson}}}

127 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:13:36pm

re: #121 Pie-onist Overlord

Bryan Fischer too.

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I guess spitting on Robin Williams grave was’t enough for him, he needed to spit on Michael Brown’s too.

128 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 13, 2014 1:13:45pm

re: #124 klys

They claim that the officer went to the hospital for his facial injuries. But he didn’t even know which side of the face.

Because he was in such a state of shock.

/

129 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:13:54pm

re: #124 klys

They claim that the officer went to the hospital for his facial injuries. But he didn’t even know which side of the face.

Whole thing just feels so fishy.

130 Testy Toad T  Aug 13, 2014 1:13:55pm

re: #124 klys

They claim that the officer went to the hospital for his facial injuries. But he didn’t even know which side of the face.

(injury is a backwards-carved ‘B’)

131 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 1:14:08pm

re: #114 makeitstop

The chief is asking that ‘the protests be cancelled.’

Seriously.

Well, that would explain why they just moved so much manpower into Ferguson.

132 ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2014 1:14:27pm

How long before Chuck C Johnson mentions the size of his Johnson in comparison to Ashe Schow?

///

133 Bulworth  Aug 13, 2014 1:14:37pm

They will allow protest as long as protesters don’t block roads. You know, the same restriction applied to anti-immigrant protesters in Murrieta. //

134 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:14:42pm

This is really feeling like the Treyvon Martin case, the case where the guy shot the black kid for the music, and os many others . This cop is probably going to get off without any jail time at all.

135 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 1:14:48pm

Chief is running the presser with 6-10 cops standing behind him.

They really seem to love that intimidation vibe.

136 aagcobb  Aug 13, 2014 1:15:13pm

re: #113 HappyWarrior

This is the typical right wing bullshit. Why aren’t blacks more outraged about this blah blah. Oh I dunno asshole maybe it’s because an officer of the law shooting a kid straight out of high school? And of course the thing is that people do get outraged at those other murders and when they do, they get slandered as “community activists” as if being one is a bad thing. Why the hell he’s concern trolling about Chicago, a city by his own admission is 300 miles away though is beyond me.

Because its come to represent all things blah, especially since its where Obama is from.

137 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:15:19pm

re: #135 makeitstop

Chief is running the presser with 6-10 cops standing behind him.

They really seem to love that intimidation vibe.

I think this guy is a Bull Connor descendant.I mean that.

138 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 13, 2014 1:15:33pm

re: #135 makeitstop

Chief is running the presser with 6-10 cops standing behind him.

They really seem to love that intimidation vibe.

It is “solidarity” vibe they are going for…among their own.

139 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:15:37pm

re: #136 aagcobb

Because its come to represent all things blah, especially since its where Obama is from.

True, true.

140 Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2014 1:15:53pm

re: #132 ObserverArt

How long before Chuck C Johnson mentions the size of his Johnson in comparison to Ashe Schow?

///

It’s the Intertubes. He’ll eventually schow Ashe his johnson.

141 Jenner7  Aug 13, 2014 1:16:02pm

And why are they having a presser?? They don’t seem to know much.

Just ridiculous.

142 b.d.  Aug 13, 2014 1:16:31pm

WHY IS OBAMA STILL ON VACATION! WE NEED HATE WHAT HE DOES FROM THE WHITE HOUSE!

143 ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2014 1:16:49pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

My oldest stepson just turned 52 on July 31 and yesterday he collapsed while doing yardwork at his house in Kankakee, Illinois, and hit his head on the pavement. Paramedics intubated him and then he was airlifted to Saint Joseph Medical Center in Joliet, where he underwent emergency brain surgery for about six hours and is in critical condition.
The poor kid has had a lifetime of chronic health problems, which have worsened a lot since he was forced to take an early disability retirement a few years ago and his insurance hit the lifetime cap before ACA took effect.
I’m pretty much an atheist, but my kids still believe, especially in the power of prayer, so to those so inclined, I thank you.

Very sorry to hear that Backwoods. My thoughts for your family. Keep us updated. By the way…all the good nuns from my Catholic school were from the nunnery in Joliet. They will pray him up good.

144 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 1:17:16pm

Wanting the protest to end makes sense for the FPD. The protest, or rather the cops overreaction to it, is what is keeping this story in the press. They tried to smother it by keeping the press out, but all that did was making their heavy-handed actions more stunning. So now they’re trying the “law and order” route, saying protestors are presenting a danger to the community and if they continue then the FPD will have “no choice” but to break them up.

145 Testy Toad T  Aug 13, 2014 1:17:18pm

re: #141 Jenner7

And why are they having a presser?? They don’t seem to know much.

Just ridiculous.

Honest answer: “let’s give mealy-mouthed babble to the press like we always do, it’s the time-honored Process, maybe that’ll make it stop”

Nobody has any idea what the shit they’re doing.

146 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 1:17:21pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

Well if WFB defended apartheid and Franco the way he did Jim Crow and Joseph McCarthy, absolutely that’s fair.

1. Apartheid.

news.google.com

147 b.d.  Aug 13, 2014 1:17:32pm

re: #133 Bulworth

They will allow protest as long as protesters don’t block roads. You know, the same restriction applied to anti-immigrant protesters in Murrieta. //

Or those Bundy guys who ran their own roadblocks.

//

148 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 1:17:36pm
149 Bulworth  Aug 13, 2014 1:18:00pm

re:
#135

cop: Todd Hockney?
Hockney: Who wants to know? (about a dozen cops with guns pointed barge in)
cop: New York Police Department.
[Hockney drops his screwdriver, sighs and reaches under the body of the car]
cop: Shit! Freeze! Hold it!
[Hockney actually pulls out a red cloth with which he uses to wipe his face]
Hockney: You sure you brought enough guys?

150 b.d.  Aug 13, 2014 1:18:59pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sending best of thoughts and prayers to you and your stepson.

151 klys  Aug 13, 2014 1:19:00pm

Paraphrased: “we can’t realize the autopsy results because it might influence what the witnesses say they saw.”

152 CuriousLurker  Aug 13, 2014 1:19:03pm
153 Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2014 1:19:17pm
154 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 1:20:08pm

re: #151 klys

Paraphrased: “we can’t realize the autopsy results because it might influence what the witnesses say they saw.”

The witnesses they’ve made no serious effort to interview?

155 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 1:20:19pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

Well if WFB defended apartheid and Franco the way he did Jim Crow and Joseph McCarthy, absolutely that’s fair.

2. Franco:

delong.typepad.com

156 CuriousLurker  Aug 13, 2014 1:20:28pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

My oldest stepson just turned 52 on July 31 and yesterday he collapsed while doing yardwork at his house in Kankakee, Illinois, and hit his head on the pavement. Paramedics intubated him and then he was airlifted to Saint Joseph Medical Center in Joliet, where he underwent emergency brain surgery for about six hours and is in critical condition.
The poor kid has had a lifetime of chronic health problems, which have worsened a lot since he was forced to take an early disability retirement a few years ago and his insurance hit the lifetime cap before ACA took effect.
I’m pretty much an atheist, but my kids still believe, especially in the power of prayer, so to those so inclined, I thank you.

{{{Backwoods_Sleuth}}} Consider it done.

157 ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2014 1:20:43pm

re: #140 Decatur Deb

It’s the Intertubes. He’ll eventually schow Ashe his johnson.

Well, if so, I hope he places a dime in the image so there is some size comparison reference.

158 klys  Aug 13, 2014 1:21:16pm

He’s also claiming the body was covered immediately and then only uncovered when the crime scene investigators were working, but shielded with privacy screens.

159 CuriousLurker  Aug 13, 2014 1:21:19pm

re: #153 Stanley Sea

Ha, beat you by 14 seconds. GMTA ;)

160 Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2014 1:21:23pm

This police chief is totally bullshitting.

They don’t want to release the autopsy results because it might “influence witnesses?”

161 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 1:22:01pm
162 Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2014 1:22:28pm

re: #155 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

2. Franco:

delong.typepad.com

Buckley was uber-Catholic. Franco-philia was no great reach.

163 klys  Aug 13, 2014 1:22:41pm

Seeing some conflicting reports that maybe the officer with the hurt face was involved in this morning’s shooting as opposed to Saturday’s. Unclear, but I will put that out there so other folks are aware there are conflicting reports on that.

That was not my interpretation of the statement, but I have been known to be wrong. :)

164 wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2014 1:22:50pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

This police chief is totally bullshitting.

They don’t want to release the autopsy results because it might “influence witnesses?”

Also bullshitting about proper crime scene investigation. What about interviewing the #1 witness?

165 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 1:23:04pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

This police chief is totally bullshitting.

They don’t want to release the autopsy results because it might “influence witnesses?”

That’s the reason why you interview witnesses within the first 24-48 hours, preferably as soon as possible. The longer between the event and the interview, the more unreliable their recall of events will be.

166 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 1:23:23pm
167 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 13, 2014 1:23:53pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

This police chief is totally bullshitting.

They don’t want to release the autopsy results because it might “influence witnesses?”

Well ya know bullet holes in his back is totally gonna be justified by a little marijuana in his system.
///

What are these people thinking?

168 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 1:24:01pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

This police chief is totally bullshitting.

They don’t want to release the autopsy results because it might “influence witnesses?”

Some of his answers are just unbelievably bad.

I was on the ‘evil PD’ side for the last couple of days, but after seeing this presser I’m gravitating toward ‘incredibly incompetent.’

169 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:24:11pm

re: #146 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

1. Apartheid.

news.google.com

Can’t say I’m surprised there. As I said, never been an admirer of his even if as DD said he was polysyllabic.

170 klys  Aug 13, 2014 1:24:45pm

I will say I am impressed that some of the questions coming out of this group of reporters is are much better than what I typically see at, say, the White House Press Room.

Edited for grammar.

171 sagehen  Aug 13, 2014 1:24:51pm

re: #133 Bulworth

They will allow protest as long as protesters don’t block roads. You know, the same restriction applied to anti-immigrant protesters in Murrieta. //

Wasn’t “being in the road” the original crime for which young Mr Brown was executed?

172 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 1:24:58pm
For many years, a large swath of this country failed Nelson Mandela, failed its own alleged morality, and failed the majority of people living in South Africa. We have some experience with this. Still, it’s easy to forget William F. Buckley—intellectual founder of the modern right—effectively worked as a press agent for apartheid:

theatlantic.com

173 Kilroy01  Aug 13, 2014 1:24:59pm

Well that little display didn’t help anything.

Wow…

174 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 13, 2014 1:25:47pm
175 Kilroy01  Aug 13, 2014 1:26:22pm

re: #174 NJDhockeyfan

They have dash cams.. just not installed…

176 Bulworth  Aug 13, 2014 1:26:41pm

re:
#173

“Nothing to see here…please disperse…all is well.”

177 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 13, 2014 1:26:42pm
178 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 1:26:43pm

National Review was founded by a white supremacist for white supremacists.

179 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:26:53pm

re: #172 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

theatlantic.com

You got the Francophile links too? Not that I doubted what you were saying in the slightest. I just like seeing that the intellectual godfather of the American new right for what he was.

180 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 1:27:39pm
181 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 1:27:40pm

re: #175 Kilroy01

They have dash cams.. just not installed…

Yeah, no budget. They spent it all on that cool MRAP.
/

182 Bulworth  Aug 13, 2014 1:27:42pm

re:
#175

Yeah they just can’t figure that part out. Maybe the instructions weren’t included. //

183 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 13, 2014 1:27:45pm

You know what influences witnesses? Intimidation. Like an MRAP at every protest. Loaded guns pointed at unarmed citizens.

184 lawhawk  Aug 13, 2014 1:27:57pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

This police chief is totally bullshitting.

They don’t want to release the autopsy results because it might “influence witnesses?”

How exactly can witnesses be influenced by the autopsy results? I’m not quite sure how that would be the case.

There are only a handful of known witnesses, not including Johnson and the cop involved. It wouldn’t prejudice either of them, let alone anyone else to know what was the outcome of the autopsy results.

What it sounds like is a lame attempt to stonewall releasing the results that would show that Brown was shot multiple times, perhaps shot in the back, and not at close range at that (supposition on my part). It’s also supposition on my part that the coroner’s report would also indicate that there was no evidence of a struggle or that Brown threw a punch or that he only had defensive wounds.

185 Kid A  Aug 13, 2014 1:28:02pm

I tweeted a request for a link to proof of this claim…crickets.

186 Floral Giraffe  Aug 13, 2014 1:28:23pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

{{{BS and all your family}}}

187 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 1:28:33pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

Posted one above, there’s more: sanseverything.wordpress.com

188 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 1:28:39pm

I’d love to know what about the autopsy they believe would influence witnesses. Because the only thing that comes to mind would whether he was shot in the back or the chest.

189 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:28:40pm

re: #178 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

National Review was founded by a white supremacist for white supremacists.

Basically, I’ll say what Lidane did yesterday, NR was and still is basically a published version of the old White Citizens Councils. WFB may not have literally worn a klan robe or burned crosses but his beliefs about racial minorities were indistinguishable from those that did.

190 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:29:18pm

re: #187 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Posted one above, there’s more: sanseverything.wordpress.com

Oh sorry, didn’t see that. Thanks as always.

191 lawhawk  Aug 13, 2014 1:29:23pm

re: #183 Rightwingconspirator

You know what influences witnesses? Intimidation. Like an MRAP at every protest. Loaded guns pointed at unarmed citizens.

This.

192 A Mom Anon  Aug 13, 2014 1:29:41pm

re: #174 NJDhockeyfan

So they confiscated phones and then deleted any incriminating video. My understanding was they ended up taking quite a few phones away from people. Is it possible to retrieve that if the cops deleted it? Have any of the phones been returned?

Lots of questions, not many answers here. I’m not sure if it’s evil, incompetent, or the deluxe combo platter with racism sprinkled on top. God this is messed up.

193 klys  Aug 13, 2014 1:30:25pm

Since I didn’t have a feed with audio for the first part of the conference, I got to look some at the body language.

I get that police chiefs aren’t chosen as chief because they’re fantastic public relations people, etc., but his was very defensive and nervous (to me). I know this was not exactly a friendly pool of reporters (and I will give him credit for at least taking questions?) but there are better ways to handle it if you’re not sure/aware of something.

Better to say “I don’t have that information” and be honest instead of making up shit.

194 Testy Toad T  Aug 13, 2014 1:30:27pm

re: #185 Kid A

I tweeted a request for a link to proof of this claim…crickets.

If you include shitholes like the former Yugoslavia and whatnot, that might be true.

What, exactly, is with the Republican infatuation for making sure we’re just only so very slightly better than something really really terrible, given the whole “American Exceptionalism” thing? Oughtn’t we, then, strive to be a lot better?

Oh yeah, the poors don’t count as part of “we”.

195 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 1:31:04pm

re: #187 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Posted one above, there’s more: sanseverything.wordpress.com

The really twisted side National Review’s philo-fascism came through in 1961 when Israel captured Adolph Eichmann, a leading Nazi, and tried him for crimes against humanity. National Review did everything they could editorially to offer extenuating arguments against the prosecution of Eichmann, arguing that he was being subjected to a “show trial”, that this was post facto justice, that pursuing Nazi crimes would weaken the Western alliance and further the cause of communism. As the magazine editorialized on April 22, 1961, the trial of Eichmann was a “lurid extravaganza” leading to “bitterness, distrust, the refusal to forgive, the advancement of Communist aims, [and] the cultivation of pacifism.” (The editors didn’t consider that a mere 16 years after the death camps were liberated, a “refusal to forgive” the architects of genocide might be understandable).

196 Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2014 1:31:42pm
197 klys  Aug 13, 2014 1:32:01pm

re: #192 A Mom Anon

So they confiscated phones and then deleted any incriminating video. My understanding was they ended up taking quite a few phones away from people. Is it possible to retrieve that if the cops deleted it? Have any of the phones been returned?

Lots of questions, not many answers here. I’m not sure if it’s evil, incompetent, or the deluxe combo platter with racism sprinkled on top. God this is messed up.

I don’t know that I’ve seen credible reports of phones being confiscated in this instance. There’s been a lot of misinformation, and I suspect this falls into that category.

198 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 1:32:20pm
199 A Mom Anon  Aug 13, 2014 1:32:37pm

also, ((((tons of hugs))))) for Backwoods Sleuth and her family.

200 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 1:32:42pm

re: #194 Testy Toad T

If you include shitholes like the former Yugoslavia and whatnot, that might be true.

What, exactly, is with the Republican infatuation for making sure we’re just only so very slightly better than something really really terrible, given the whole “American Exceptionalism” thing? Oughtn’t we, then, strive to be a lot better?

Oh yeah, the poors don’t count as part of “we”.

It’s to maintain their belief that the poor in this country aren’t “really poor” because their level of living is above that of a “socialist” nation. Remember, according to this crowd, having a microwave and central air/heat is proof that you’ve “got it good.”

201 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 1:32:58pm

re: #195 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Scholar Peter Novick:

The general circulation magazine that outdid all others in the frequency and vehemence of its attacks on the trial was William F. Buckley’s National Review. Its first commentary on Eichmann was noteworthy in that, at a time when all the other media were reporting his millions of victims, it spoke of Eichmann’s being “generally believed to have a primary hand in exterminating hundreds of thousands.” Two weeks later the magazine returned to the subject, attacking the “pernicious” trial that was “manipulat[ing] a series of ex post facto laws … to give assassination a juridical rationale.” National Review’s Eichmann coverage then turned to anti-Semitic ‘humor.’ The magazine presented the imagined conversations of a vulgar Jewish couple: “Sylvie” spoke to “Myron” about Eichmann (and gold, and hairdressers) in their Central Park West apartment while “doing her nails … on an enormous crescent-shaped, gold-on-gold, French provincial Castro convertible.” A bit later, the National Review devoted an editorial to how the Communists were profiting from the “Hate Germany movement” being furthered by the Eichmann trial.

202 aagcobb  Aug 13, 2014 1:33:05pm

re: #168 makeitstop

Some of his answers are just unbelievably bad.

I was on the ‘evil PD’ side for the last couple of days, but after seeing this presser I’m gravitating toward ‘incredibly incompetent.’

Team Evil or Team Stupid?

203 Romantic Heretic  Aug 13, 2014 1:33:16pm

re: #19 A Mom Anon

My grandpa was a cop, he actually got training in how to ease tensions in bad situations. Do they not train people for the job with those skills anymore?

A situation can be defused much quicker with a lot of guns and no media watching.

204 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 1:33:16pm

re: #196 Stanley Sea

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Oh hell.

205 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 13, 2014 1:34:27pm

Fuck anonymous, they are not helping.

206 gwangung  Aug 13, 2014 1:34:28pm

re: #202 aagcobb

Team Evil or Team Stupid?

I’m not sure they didn’t pick both.

207 klys  Aug 13, 2014 1:34:57pm

re: #204 Targetpractice

Oh hell.

It’s not Ferguson’s dispatch tapes. I’m not even sure it’s the county’s tapes.

208 klys  Aug 13, 2014 1:35:17pm

re: #205 Pie-onist Overlord

Fuck anonymous, they are not helping.

Pretty much.

209 Romantic Heretic  Aug 13, 2014 1:35:27pm

re: #30 Targetpractice

Considering the news that the body is being released came out shortly after the PD saying that their cop sustained facial injuries, I’d say they’ve decided on the “cop in fear for his life” routine.

Quelle surprise.

210 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 1:35:29pm

re: #201 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Gee.

At the same time, National Review did an editorial about the attempt of George Lincoln Rockwell, the head of the American Nazi party, to speak in New York city. The editorial criticized the “mob of Jews who hurled insults at him. Some lunged at him, and were kept from Rockwell’s throat only by a cordon of policemen. Are we ‘against’ the Jews whose pressure kept Rockwell from exercising his constitutional right to speak, and who would, if given the chance, have beat him bloody? Of course.” But the editorial admirable defence of “the constitutional right to speak” had a limit; a paragraph later the editors are criticizing the civil rights movement for their “theatrical” challenge to white supremacy in the south, a response which was “met, inevitably, by a spastic response. By violence.” (This editorial, quoted by Novick, is from the June 3, 1961 issue of National Review)

211 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 13, 2014 1:35:29pm

re: #202 aagcobb

Team Evil or Team Stupid?

Stupid at first but now evil for trying to cover it up.

I am reminded of an old Soviet-era joke:

“Did you hear about Pokryshkin? He got eleven years for calling Brezhnev an idiot!”

“Why such a stiff sentence?”

“One year for defaming Soviet authorities and eleven years for revealing a state secret!”

212 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 1:35:59pm

re: #207 klys

It’s not Ferguson’s dispatch tapes. I’m not even sure it’s the county’s tapes.

Hence the head-shaking. Too many idiots are now gonna listen to it and try to nail down the name of the cop, which is very likely going to result in some poor bastard getting tarred and feathered for no good reason.

213 Kilroy01  Aug 13, 2014 1:36:14pm

The Chief didn’t do a very good job of sounding like he knew anything. Until the question about the gun.

They have problems retaining officers. Wonder if it may be the leadership.

Then again a smaller town looking for a Chief of Police doesn’t have the pick of the litter.

214 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:36:28pm

re: #201 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Scholar Peter Novick:

What stands out to me there is the hypothetical Jewish couple. Yikes. And these guys have the gall to accuse Obama and the left of being Anti-Semites? Hating Israel and Jews?

215 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 13, 2014 1:36:53pm

re: #210 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Gee.

That reminds me of the NY Post headline for the time the KKK held a rally in midtown Manhattan:

SHEET HAPPENS

216 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:36:57pm

re: #210 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Gee.

Dude, you’re on fire. Keep it up. I knew NR was bad news but this is gold.

217 A Mom Anon  Aug 13, 2014 1:37:15pm

re: #207 klys

Didn’t they also release photos from a situation in Oakland, CA and say it was Ferguson?

Either do the right thing, or STFU Anonymous. What the hell is the point of doing shit like this? Sigh.

I hate people sometimes.

218 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 1:38:22pm

re: #217 A Mom Anon

Didn’t they also release photos from a situation in Oakland, CA and say it was Ferguson?

Either do the right thing, or STFU Anonymous. What the hell is the point of doing shit like this? Sigh.

I hate people sometimes.

Anonymous gets off on stirring up shit and then watching the results. Gives them a false sense of power and influence, when really it’s the equivalent of tossing a lit match on a pool of gasoline.

219 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 1:38:28pm
220 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 1:38:51pm

re: #216 HappyWarrior

Thing is, I read it all years ago, then forgot.

221 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 1:40:00pm
As broken as Washington has become, immigration had seemed like the one issue our elected leaders might be capable of handling in 2014. The politics, for one thing, appeared relatively easy. Fears about “border security” had faded alongside Lou Dobbs’ career: The migration flow of undocumented immigrants had fallen to net zero by 2012, down from a growth of 400,000 per year under George W. Bush. And congressional Republicans had strong incentive to cooperate with Democrats on comprehensive immigration reform, for reasons of basic self-preservation (what with the exploding Latino electorate) and with deep pressure coming from the business community. Beyond all of that, it seemed unfathomable - un-American, really - to allow the dysfunction hobbling our immigration system to continue, when the immigrant remains so fundamental to our self-identity, our foundational myth. To reject this aspect of America would feel like an act of nihilism, a national death wish akin to the Italian parliament suddenly deciding to ban carbohydrates, Australia paving all of its beaches, Jamaica’s state radio switching to an all-metal format.
222 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:40:16pm

re: #220 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Thing is, I read it all years ago, then forgot.

I was aware of WFB’s being a McCarthy apologist- I believe that’s actually how he made a name for himself and his subsequent defense of segregation since he believed the Civil Rights Movement was a communist front and plot but not this. Again thank you. I knew I had legitimate reason not to respect that man and his magazine.

223 klys  Aug 13, 2014 1:41:31pm
224 Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2014 1:43:55pm

re: #207 klys

I don’t know……….I’m listening and I’m hearing the word “Ferguson” mentioned at least twice now.

225 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:44:22pm

re: #223 klys

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Good. Thanks Mr. Callahan.

226 Amory Blaine  Aug 13, 2014 1:44:23pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

227 klys  Aug 13, 2014 1:45:02pm

re: #224 Dr Lizardo

I don’t know……….I’m listening and I’m hearing the word “Ferguson” mentioned at least twice now.

The town requested assistance, so it is definitely mentioned. But the dispatch itself is not for Ferguson PD.

228 Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2014 1:46:37pm

re: #227 klys

The town requested assistance, so it is definitely mentioned. But the dispatch itself is not for Ferguson PD.

I think it’s from St. Louis County dispatch.

229 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 1:47:25pm

re: #221 FemNaziBitch

“Not at all. The kids made the Republicans show their cards. They kept saying they wanted reform, but then they went for a punitive, nasty bill and for wasting more money at the border. Sometimes, you have to let the train crash.”

230 JDRhoades  Aug 13, 2014 1:49:06pm

re: #35 lawhawk

These fuckers aren’t careful, they’re going to end up with an Amritsar massacre on their hands.

231 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 13, 2014 1:49:19pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

{{Backwoods}}
Best thoughts and prayers for you all. Bless modern medicine and skilled docs!

232 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 1:50:26pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

I was aware of WFB’s being a McCarthy apologist- I believe that’s actually how he made a name for himself and his subsequent defense of segregation since he believed the Civil Rights Movement was a communist front and plot but not this. Again thank you. I knew I had legitimate reason not to respect that man and his magazine.

The constant confusion of an economic system with a social and justice system.

this

233 Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2014 1:51:09pm

OT but worth it.

234 Testy Toad T  Aug 13, 2014 1:51:30pm

re: #230 JDRhoades

These fuckers aren’t careful, they’re going to end up with an Amritsar massacre on their hands.

…I think members of a US law enforcement agency would have to do more than just not be careful in order to end up with 370 dead.

Come on. People can’t call for calm de-escalation on the one hand, and toss out this sort of wild hyperbole on the other.

235 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 1:51:52pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

My oldest stepson just turned 52 on July 31 and yesterday he collapsed while doing yardwork at his house in Kankakee, Illinois, and hit his head on the pavement. Paramedics intubated him and then he was airlifted to Saint Joseph Medical Center in Joliet, where he underwent emergency brain surgery for about six hours and is in critical condition.
The poor kid has had a lifetime of chronic health problems, which have worsened a lot since he was forced to take an early disability retirement a few years ago and his insurance hit the lifetime cap before ACA took effect.
I’m pretty much an atheist, but my kids still believe, especially in the power of prayer, so to those so inclined, I thank you.

((((((((Backwoods)))))))

236 b_sharp  Aug 13, 2014 1:52:27pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

My oldest stepson just turned 52 on July 31 and yesterday he collapsed while doing yardwork at his house in Kankakee, Illinois, and hit his head on the pavement. Paramedics intubated him and then he was airlifted to Saint Joseph Medical Center in Joliet, where he underwent emergency brain surgery for about six hours and is in critical condition.
The poor kid has had a lifetime of chronic health problems, which have worsened a lot since he was forced to take an early disability retirement a few years ago and his insurance hit the lifetime cap before ACA took effect.
I’m pretty much an atheist, but my kids still believe, especially in the power of prayer, so to those so inclined, I thank you.

Oh no.

You and your stepson are in my thoughts. {{{B_S}}}

237 TedStriker  Aug 13, 2014 1:52:36pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Yeah I saw that. The late Phillip Seymour Hoffman has one last film out too.

Williams has three in the chute.

238 EPR-radar  Aug 13, 2014 1:53:13pm

re: #210 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Excellent finds. In my view, this is pretty conclusive evidence that the US hard right will return to anti-Semitism in due course, once the Holocaust is sufficiently far back in the past.

239 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 13, 2014 1:54:58pm

re: #238 EPR-radar

Excellent finds. In my view, this is pretty conclusive evidence that the US hard right will return to anti-Semitism in due course, once the Holocaust is sufficiently far back in the past.

Kinda tricky because their archaic religious views call for them to support Israel: not for any affinity for Jews, but in order to help facilitate the End Times and the Second Coming.

240 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 1:55:46pm

Speaking of movies. I figured-out how to access Youtube from my Apple TV (WOOT!!!) and watched all 4 hours of the Spanish Civil War documentary recommened by William Barnett-Lewis and others here on LGF. This was accomplished on Monday night.

There was a lot there to fathom. I mostly gleaned that the Spanish Civil War was a clusterfuck of ideologies. A lot of people died.

Did I get it right?

241 TedStriker  Aug 13, 2014 1:55:51pm

re: #127 HappyWarrior

I guess spitting on Robin Williams grave was’t enough for him, he needed to spit on Michael Brown’s too.

It’s what Fischer does.

He’s Westboro light, because he’s never man enough to say that shit out in public in meatspace, because he’s a fucking cowardly bitch.

242 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 1:56:10pm

re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Kinda tricky because their archaic religious views call for them to support Israel: not for any affinity for Jews, but in order to help facilitate the End Times and the Second Coming.

As twisted as it comes.

243 Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2014 1:56:23pm
244 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 13, 2014 1:57:00pm

re: #238 EPR-radar

Excellent finds. In my view, this is pretty conclusive evidence that the US hard right will return to anti-Semitism in due course, once the Holocaust is sufficiently far back in the past.

The US hard right is already heavily anti-semitic.

245 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:57:29pm

re: #243 Charles Johnson

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Hoft crying about hate? Has he read the comment pages on the filth he posts?

246 Single-handed sailor  Aug 13, 2014 1:57:35pm

Hoft logic: Hate=Truth

247 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 1:58:03pm

re: #244 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

The US hard right is already heavily anti-semitic.

Yep. Always has been. They’ll never admit it but Anti-Semitism was behind a lot of their hatred of the New Deal.

248 JDRhoades  Aug 13, 2014 1:58:31pm

re: #234 Testy Toad T

…I think members of a US law enforcement agency would have to do more than just not be careful in order to end up with 370 dead.

Seen the pics here of the cops aiming weapons, including sniper rifles, at unarmed protesters? All it’ll take is for someone to make a loud, sharp noise—like knocking over a trash can—-before they lose their shit and start spraying bullets.

Here’s a scary fact: the so-called SWAT teams for a lot of towns aren’t the highly trained specialists of TV and movies. They’re beat cops who volunteer to do a couple extra days of training a month for a few extra bucks and the chance to play with bigger guns than usual.

249 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:00:04pm

re: #233 Stanley Sea

OT but worth it.

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And how long until Lewis Black is accused by Limbaugh and his sychophants of bullying him here. Anyhow, preach it, Lewis, fuck Limbaugh. Really fuck that guy. He has no decency whatsoever. What kind of person uses a suicide to attack a whole ideology? Better yet what kind of party willingly associates with such a person who’s been saying shit like this for decades.

250 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:00:06pm

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Yep. Always has been. They’ll never admit it but Anti-Semitism was behind a lot of their hatred of the New Deal.

My Dear Ole Dad always straddled the fence on his Conservatism. He always said that the reason most civilizations failed is because they never accepted the Jews. And, well, there are more than a few examples in recent history. …

251 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 2:00:46pm

Gah. Just about every news chopper in NYC is presently hovering over my neighborhood.

Can I get some of that hot no-fly action over here?

252 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:00:47pm

re: #232 FemNaziBitch

The constant confusion of an economic system with a social and justice system.

this

WFB wasn’t confused at all about that. He just had a problem with people who weren’t rich white pricks like him having a say in our or any society.

253 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:00:52pm

re: #248 JDRhoades

Seen the pics here of the cops aiming weapons, including sniper rifles, at unarmed protesters? All it’ll take is for someone to make a loud, sharp noise—like knocking over a trash can—-before they lose their shit and start spraying bullets.

Here’s a scary fact: the so-called SWAT teams for a lot of towns aren’t the highly trained specialists of TV and movies. They’re beat cops who volunteer to do a couple extra days of training a month for a few extra bucks and the chance to play with bigger guns than usual.

Hopefully a few are dedicated deer hunters and/or veterans.

254 b_sharp  Aug 13, 2014 2:01:20pm

re: #251 makeitstop

Gah. Just about every news chopper in NYC is presently hovering over my neighborhood.

Can I get some of that hot no-fly action over here?

What did you do?

255 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:01:41pm

re: #252 HappyWarrior

WFB wasn’t confused at all about that. He just had a problem with people who weren’t rich white pricks like him having a say in our or any society.

yes, he loved his affected aristocratic wannabe self.

256 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 2:01:53pm

re: #254 b_sharp

What did you do?

Bought a house near a flood zone, apparently.

257 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:02:04pm

re: #251 makeitstop

Gah. Just about every news chopper in NYC is presently hovering over my neighborhood.

Can I get some of that hot no-fly action over here?

makes ya’ nervous, doesn’t it?

258 b_sharp  Aug 13, 2014 2:02:19pm

re: #256 makeitstop

Bought a house near a flood zone, apparently.

Time to get the dinghy out.

259 Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2014 2:02:54pm

re: #180 Kragar

Massachusetts is a place, y’know.

Mr. Zepps is pretty naive. Southie is a place, too, y’know.

260 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 2:02:54pm
261 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:03:05pm

re: #255 FemNaziBitch

yes, he loved his affected aristocratic wannabe self.

Honestly if I could compare him to anyone in literature, ti would be someone like Tom Buchanan in Gatsby.

262 klys  Aug 13, 2014 2:03:14pm
263 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:03:31pm

re: #240 FemNaziBitch

Speaking of movies. I figured-out how to access Youtube from my Apple TV (WOOT!!!) and watched all 4 hours of the Spanish Civil War documentary recommened by William Barnett-Lewis and others here on LGF. This was accomplished on Monday night.

There was a lot there to fathom. I mostly gleaned that the Spanish Civil War was a clusterfuck of ideologies. A lot of people died.

Did I get it right?

WHAT I found really interesting was the realization that the RC Church had such a stranglehold on the people. Abortion on demand was legalized for a time.

264 Iwouldprefernotto  Aug 13, 2014 2:03:31pm

re: #233 Stanley Sea

OT but worth it.

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Love Lewis Black. Never have to guess what he is thinking.

265 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 2:03:46pm

re: #257 FemNaziBitch

makes ya’ nervous, doesn’t it?

I usually get the local guys doing it on holiday weekends, so they can get shots of the ‘weekend escape.’ But I’m counting four right now, all jockeying for position. I’m surprised they haven’t bumped into each other yet.

266 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:03:47pm

re: #260 Kragar

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I wish I could buy this man a round for that. This times a 1000. So true, so true.

267 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 13, 2014 2:04:11pm

re: #248 JDRhoades

Seen the pics here of the cops aiming weapons, including sniper rifles, at unarmed protesters? All it’ll take is for someone to make a loud, sharp noise—like knocking over a trash can—-before they lose their shit and start spraying bullets.

Here’s a scary fact: the so-called SWAT teams for a lot of towns aren’t the highly trained specialists of TV and movies. They’re beat cops who volunteer to do a couple extra days of training a month for a few extra bucks and the chance to play with bigger guns than usual.

Just looking at all those paramilitary geared up SWAT/Bomb squad/DHS/Border patrol guys, you would think we suffer terror attacks weekly or more, but only have a car stolen or shoplifting happen once or twice in a lifetime.

268 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:04:15pm

re: #265 makeitstop

I usually get the local guys doing it on holiday weekends, so they can get shots of the ‘weekend escape.’ But I’m counting four right now, all jockeying for position. I’m surprised they haven’t bumped into each other yet.

4? You really in trouble.

Did you diss your FO?

269 Lidane  Aug 13, 2014 2:05:00pm

So I missed all the fun because for some reason they expect me to get work done around here. Can anyone give me the Cliff’s Notes of the presser? Please and thank you.

270 klys  Aug 13, 2014 2:05:20pm

re: #269 Lidane

So I missed all the fun because for some reason they expect me to get work done around here. Can anyone give me the Cliff’s Notes of the presser? Please and thank you.

They’re incompetent.

271 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 13, 2014 2:05:49pm

re: #269 Lidane

So I missed all the fun because for some reason they expect me to get work done around here. Can anyone give me the Cliff’s Notes of the presser? Please and thank you.

Stonewall, lie, deflect, distract, stonewall, distract, deflect, lie, stonewall, lie, deflect, distract.

272 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:05:53pm

re: #270 klys

They’re incompetent.

and they want people to stop protesting.

273 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:06:28pm

re: #267 Rightwingconspirator

Just looking at all those paramilitary geared up SWAT/Bomb squad/DHS/Border patrol guys, you would think we suffer terror attacks weekly or more, but only have a car stolen or shoplifting happen once or twice in a lifetime.

When the land the street from my subdivision was sold to developers. the local fire department got the two old houses for practice. I drove by one day and about 8 firemen all dressed in their gear were straddling the roofs holding axes and (I imagined) grunting. I thought, they never grow-up.

I have the same feeling about these SWAT guys you-all are describing.

I feel safer with the fireman playing dress-up.

274 Dr. Matt  Aug 13, 2014 2:06:50pm

re: #185 Kid A

I tweeted a request for a link to proof of this claim…crickets.

If it sounds good, it must be true……

///

275 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 2:07:13pm

re: #269 Lidane

So I missed all the fun because for some reason they expect me to get work done around here. Can anyone give me the Cliff’s Notes of the presser? Please and thank you.

Lie, lie, obstruction, diversion, don’t know, don’t know, non-answer, lie, don’t know, don’t know, thank you.

(Paraphrasing. It was really bad.)

276 EPR-radar  Aug 13, 2014 2:07:45pm

re: #272 HappyWarrior

and they want people to stop protesting.

How rude of people to protest when an unarmed kid is shot for no apparent reason by a cop and the entire police department immediately goes into CYA mode instead of investigating.

What’s the world coming to? /////

277 Lidane  Aug 13, 2014 2:07:49pm

re: #270 klys

They’re incompetent.

re: #271 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Stonewall, lie, deflect, distract, stonewall, distract, deflect, lie, stonewall, lie, deflect, distract.

re: #272 HappyWarrior

and they want people to stop protesting.

So basically an entire presser of nothing? Did they at least offer any information, such as the autopsy results or anything?

278 Teukka  Aug 13, 2014 2:08:03pm

re: #275 makeitstop

Lie, lie, obstruction, diversion, don’t know, don’t know, non-answer, lie, don’t know, don’t know, thank you.

(Paraphrasing. It was really bad.)

a.k.a. Three-monkey syndrome (See no evil, say no evil, hear no evil).
*smh*

279 TedStriker  Aug 13, 2014 2:08:08pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

This police chief is totally bullshitting.

They don’t want to release the autopsy results because it might “influence witnesses?”

Yeah, this is totally shaping up to be a lot of CYA bullshit.

280 Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2014 2:08:24pm

re: #277 Lidane

So basically an entire presser of nothing? Did they at least offer any information, such as the autopsy results or anything?

A State Congresswoman asked if she was going to get gassed again.

281 Kilroy01  Aug 13, 2014 2:08:24pm

re: #275 makeitstop

The Chief did has is own goon squad backing him up if the press got rowdy.

282 CuriousLurker  Aug 13, 2014 2:08:28pm
283 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:08:34pm

Protest vs. Riot.

Which would you rather?

284 klys  Aug 13, 2014 2:09:14pm

re: #277 Lidane

So basically an entire presser of nothing? Did they at least offer any information, such as the autopsy results or anything?

Nope.

The one coming up has potential to be more interesting.

re: #282 CuriousLurker

Hopefully they’ll have the sound working this time. >.>

285 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 2:09:16pm

re: #277 Lidane

So basically an entire presser of nothing? Did they at least offer any information, such as the autopsy results or anything?

Can’t release autopsy results because it might “influence witnesses.”

286 Teukka  Aug 13, 2014 2:09:27pm

re: #283 FemNaziBitch

Protest vs. Riot.

Which would you rather?

Depends on the circumstances. *smiles enigmatically*

287 TedStriker  Aug 13, 2014 2:09:47pm

re: #168 makeitstop

Some of his answers are just unbelievably bad.

I was on the ‘evil PD’ side for the last couple of days, but after seeing this presser I’m gravitating toward ‘incredibly incompetent.’

‘Incredibly incompetent’ cops with military-grade gear and an itch to use it.

288 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 2:09:51pm

re: #283 FemNaziBitch

Protest vs. Riot.

Which would you rather?

Depends, is it a quiet riot?

//

289 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 2:10:46pm

re: #287 TedStriker

‘Incredibly incompetent’ cops with military-grade gear and an itch to use it.

And that’s the nervous-making part.

290 Romantic Heretic  Aug 13, 2014 2:10:52pm

re: #71 klys

That’s very cool. I did not know that.

291 JDRhoades  Aug 13, 2014 2:11:06pm

So when does the right start screaming about how President Obama is a terrible racist who wants to murder all white people because he called the shooting a tragedy? Or did it start already and I missed it?

292 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:11:08pm

Glad to see DOJ involved. This predictably will get the 10thers up in arms butI am glad Obama and Holder don’t give a shit. This kind of case is exactly why I don’t buy the locals know best gospel that teh right likes to spread.

293 CuriousLurker  Aug 13, 2014 2:11:44pm
Body of Michael Brown released to family

FERGUSON, Mo. - A lawyer for the family of Michael Brown says the Ferguson teen’s body has been turned over to the family, NewsChannel 5 has learned.

A second examination of the body has been planned. […]

ksdk.com

294 Romantic Heretic  Aug 13, 2014 2:11:47pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

I really wish I could be surprised at this but people like Breitbart thrive on this shit.

Like dung beetles. Except dung beetles serve a useful purpose.

295 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 2:12:00pm

re: #291 JDRhoades

So when does the right start screaming about how President Obama is racist who wants to murder all white people because he called the shooting a tragedy? Or did it start already and I missed it?

One wingnut was sneering the other night about how the President offered condolences to the Brown family, but not to the cop.

296 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:12:13pm

re: #291 JDRhoades

So when does the right start screaming about how President Obama is racist who wants to murder all white people because he called the shooting a tragedy? Or did it start already and I missed it?

Not sure but Todd Starnes was wondering why Obama didn’t offer condolences to the cop’s family because you know outrage outrage Obama showed empathy to a blah family.

297 TedStriker  Aug 13, 2014 2:13:15pm

re: #171 sagehen

Wasn’t “being in the road” the original crime for which young Mr Brown was executed?

“Executed for jaywalking”.

That ought to look real good on the tombstone.

298 Romantic Heretic  Aug 13, 2014 2:13:19pm

re: #82 Kragar

Chuck Johnson

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“Google me”

“Wow, you broke the Dan Rather story?”

“NO!”

Even the tiny avatar that Twitter allows displays that not our Charles is a supercilious little jackass.

300 Lidane  Aug 13, 2014 2:13:26pm

re: #291 JDRhoades

So when does the right start screaming about how President Obama is racist who wants to murder all white people because he called the shooting a tragedy? Or did it start already and I missed it?

Todd Starnes was busy bleating about WHY WON’T OBUMMER SHOW COMPASSION TO THE SHOOTER? yesterday.

301 Bulworth  Aug 13, 2014 2:13:43pm

re:
#296

hurr hurr why did Obummer call Sandra Fluke and not call, uh, someone someone???

302 Testy Toad T  Aug 13, 2014 2:14:03pm

re: #248 JDRhoades

Seen the pics here of the cops aiming weapons, including sniper rifles, at unarmed protesters? All it’ll take is for someone to make a loud, sharp noise—like knocking over a trash can—-before they lose their shit and start spraying bullets.

You seriously don’t think this is not hyperbole? Not even a little?

A trash can will fall over and police will “start spraying bullets”? Just like that?

For fuck’s sake. I’m out of here.

303 Romantic Heretic  Aug 13, 2014 2:14:27pm

re: #92 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

In every 2nd tweet he tries to prove how significant he is.

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He’s just as poisonous too.

304 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:15:50pm

re: #301 Bulworth

re:
#296

hurr hurr why did Obummer call Sandra Fluke and not call, uh, someone someone???

Why didn’t Obama call Rush after he called Sandra Fluke a slut? //

305 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 2:16:03pm

re: #283 FemNaziBitch

Protest vs. Riot.

Which would you rather?

Youtube Video

306 JDRhoades  Aug 13, 2014 2:16:25pm

re: #296 HappyWarrior

Not sure but Todd Starnes was wondering why Obama didn’t offer condolences to the cop’s family

Because you don’t usually offer condolences to the families of the living?

307 Romantic Heretic  Aug 13, 2014 2:16:58pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sending strength and healing vibes his way.

308 Bulworth  Aug 13, 2014 2:17:27pm

re:
#277

So basically an entire presser of nothing?

“Nothing?”

“Nothing”

“What does that mean?”

“Everyone else is doing press conferences about something. We’ll do press conferences about nothing.”

“They why are we watching it?”

“Because it’s on TV.”

“Not yet….”

309 Lidane  Aug 13, 2014 2:17:59pm

re: #306 JDRhoades

Because you don’t usually offer condolences to the families of the living?

OTOH, I tweeted Todd Starnes and generously offered my sincere condolences to his brain cells, since he kills more and more of them every time he talks.

310 Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 13, 2014 2:18:14pm

re: #299 FemNaziBitch

What a tragedy.

OT but I, like, hope people read their, like, quotes in the future and are like, horrified that they, like, sounded like idiots. Like.

311 TedStriker  Aug 13, 2014 2:19:21pm

re: #228 Dr Lizardo

I think it’s from St. Louis County dispatch.

If it’s the county dispatch, then they may also handle calls and dispatch for agencies outside the St. Louis city PD’s jurisdiction, including Ferguson.

312 gwangung  Aug 13, 2014 2:19:28pm

re: #306 JDRhoades

Because you don’t usually offer condolences to the families of the living?

Think that one went over his head….

313 klys  Aug 13, 2014 2:19:40pm

re: #302 Testy Toad T

You seriously don’t think this is not hyperbole? Not even a little?

A trash can will fall over and police will “start spraying bullets”? Just like that?

For fuck’s sake. I’m out of here.

Props to TTT for calling it out.

Pre-supposing every cop has an itchy trigger finger and is just waiting to go off on the general public is just as shitty as any other pre-judgement based on a job/quality/etc., and I wish folks would remember that a bit more, even when we are seeing some examples of bad cops.

There are shitty cops. There are some places where there are a lot of shitty cops. But I don’t think that there are so few good cops that someone knocks over a trash can and whoops, 100 citizens are dead.

If I end up being wrong you can say “I told you so” and fine, but in the meantime let’s use a finer brush and less inflammatory language, yes?

314 JDRhoades  Aug 13, 2014 2:21:07pm

re: #302 Testy Toad T

You seriously don’t think this is not hyperbole? Not even a little?

A trash can will fall over and police will “start spraying bullets”? Just like that?

For fuck’s sake. I’m out of here.

Guess I just don’t share your faith in the police department that employs a cop who just killed an unarmed black kid and is desperately trying to cover it up, to the extent that they’ve asked the FAA to declare a no fly zone over the town to keep aerial surveillance away.

315 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:21:28pm
“As for the unaccompanied minors, advocates fear that a number of the children already here, because of the narrowness of U.S. asylum law, might be sent back to persecution and, in some cases, certain death. Rep. Joaquin Castro, a Democrat representing part of San Antonio, believes the ways in which we define refugees must be updated for the 21st century - that connecting refugee status to specific enemy states, at a time when non-state actors like Al Qaeda or narcotrafficking cartels make for bigger threats, is leftover thinking from the Cold War.

“One of the ways we demonstrated to communist dictators that we disapproved of their government was by accepting their people as refugees,” Castro points out. “Granting refugee status to these children would be a way of demonstrating how insidious these cartels are, and that the U.S. stands against them. When I hear people click their tongues and say, ‘Who’s going to pay for it?’ I say, ‘Well, the same people who paid for Cubans fleeing Castro or Jews fleeing the Soviet Union.’”

Read more: rollingstone.com
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook

316 gwangung  Aug 13, 2014 2:22:28pm

re: #313 klys

Props to TTT for calling it out.

Pre-supposing every cop has an itchy trigger finger and is just waiting to go off on the general public is just as shitty as any other pre-judgement based on a job/quality/etc., and I wish folks would remember that a bit more, even when we are seeing some examples of bad cops.

There are shitty cops. There are some places where there are a lot of shitty cops. But I don’t think that there are so few good cops that someone knocks over a trash can and whoops, 100 citizens are dead.

If I end up being wrong you can say “I told you so” and fine, but in the meantime let’s use a finer brush and less inflammatory language, yes?

How about….Ferguson PD is doing their best to ratchet up the tension? Cause intimidation doesn’t work on people who think they’re going to get killed anyway….

317 wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2014 2:22:58pm

re: #180 Kragar

318 Romantic Heretic  Aug 13, 2014 2:23:01pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

You got the Francophile links too? Not that I doubted what you were saying in the slightest. I just like seeing that the intellectual godfather of the American new right for what he was.

New Right? Is that Like New Coke? Unpopular with the people that consumed it and then quietly pulled from the shelves?

319 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:23:31pm

re: #315 FemNaziBitch

Read more: rollingstone.com
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook

And this is why I am a big admirer of these Castro brothers:
“One of the ways we demonstrated to communist dictators that we disapproved of their government was by accepting their people as refugees,” Castro points out. “Granting refugee status to these children would be a way of demonstrating how insidious these cartels are, and that the U.S. stands against them. When I hear people click their tongues and say, ‘Who’s going to pay for it?’ I say, ‘Well, the same people who paid for Cubans fleeing Castro or Jews fleeing the Soviet Union.’”
He didn’t mention it but it would have been great if he did because it would show how the Republicans have regressed as a party but one of President Ford’s finest moments was letting Vietnamese refugees in after the South fell.

320 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:23:44pm

re: #314 JDRhoades

Guess I just don’t share your faith in the police department that employs a cop who just killed an unarmed black kid and is desperately trying to cover it up, to the extent that they’ve asked the FAA to declare a no fly zone over the town to keep aerial surveillance away.

I have faith in the majority of individual cops. I don’t have much faith in Police Departments as a whole. They exist on reports/numbers and the whims of elected officials.

It is a relatively new idea, Police beholden to the public —not sure it’s worked out that well.

321 wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2014 2:24:34pm

re: #314 JDRhoades

Guess I just don’t share your faith in the police department that employs a cop who just killed an unarmed black kid and is desperately trying to cover it up, to the extent that they’ve asked the FAA to declare a no fly zone over the town to keep aerial surveillance away.

It does not take ’ faith in the police department that employs a cop who just killed an unarmed black kid and is desperately trying to cover it up’ to call for a restriction in hyperbole.

Do you believe hyperbole helps?

322 thedopefishlives  Aug 13, 2014 2:24:40pm

Evening Lizardim.

323 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:24:50pm

re: #318 Romantic Heretic

New Right? Is that Like New Coke? Unpopular with the people that consumed it and then quietly pulled from the shelves?

Hahaha no but it’s actually a term that separates it from the old right which was much more isolationist in tone and focused more on economics versus social battles. Have you ever heard about the “New Left” in regards ot the 60’s?

324 klys  Aug 13, 2014 2:25:21pm

re: #316 gwangung

How about….Ferguson PD is doing their best to ratchet up the tension? Cause intimidation doesn’t work on people who think they’re going to get killed anyway….

Saying “I think they’re doing a shitty job at calming the situation” is different than saying “they’re getting close to a situation where they’re going to fire hundreds of rounds on protesters.” You did check the Wikipedia link that first got the comment about hyperbole?

On the orders of Brigadier-General Reginald Dyer, the army fired on the crowd for ten minutes, directing their bullets largely towards the few open gates through which people were trying to run out.

325 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:25:22pm

re: #319 HappyWarrior

And this is why I am a big admirer of these Castro brothers:
“One of the ways we demonstrated to communist dictators that we disapproved of their government was by accepting their people as refugees,” Castro points out. “Granting refugee status to these children would be a way of demonstrating how insidious these cartels are, and that the U.S. stands against them. When I hear people click their tongues and say, ‘Who’s going to pay for it?’ I say, ‘Well, the same people who paid for Cubans fleeing Castro or Jews fleeing the Soviet Union.’”
He didn’t mention it but it would have been great if he did because it would show how the Republicans have regressed as a party but one of President Ford’s finest moments was letting Vietnamese refugees in after the South fell.

I would be nice if we could overhaul the War on Drugs, but there are too many fingers dependent on that pie at the present time.

326 BeachDem  Aug 13, 2014 2:25:26pm

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thinking good thoughts. (If I say Bethlehem/Nazareth, PA I think you’ll know who I am.)

327 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:25:50pm

re: #323 HappyWarrior

Hahaha no but it’s actually a term that separates it from the old right which was much more isolationist in tone and focused more on economics versus social battles. Have you ever heard about the “New Left” in regards ot the 60’s?

Ayn Rand wrote a book on it!!!

328 CuriousLurker  Aug 13, 2014 2:25:56pm
329 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 2:26:16pm

re: #214 HappyWarrior

What stands out to me there is the hypothetical Jewish couple. Yikes.

I’ve found an OCR version:

The Gol4 Problem * * * By W. H. Von,Dreele It is Sunday evening in a New York apartment on Central Park West. The husband sunk ‘:ep into the foam of his TV chair, Jistens intently to a panel of sociologists brought together by uavid Susskind. His-^He lounges on an enormous crescent-shaped, gold-on-gold, French provincial Castro cotí- vertible. She is doing her nails. S HE: Myron, talk to me about gold. He: (with irritation) Sylvia, I’m just ¡n the middle wit! Faubus … She: Integration. I know. It’s with gold I’m fuzzy-wuzzy Talk to me. He: (gets up, turns volume down, speaks slowly as to ¡ child) You know what’s the gold standard? She: Like in “Inherit the Wind?” He: No. Like in Fort Knox. In Europe, they want pay ment in gold, now. It’s good business. The dollar … She: Myron, I think it’s Eichmann. He: Sylvia, Eichmann has nothing to do with it, but noth ing. It’s a balance problem. That’s why Eisenhower stoppef the Army dependents from … She: So now they’re breaking up families? < He: Sylvia, with governments, sentiment’s out. Now, Ei senhower tried to get the Germans to help by … She Don’t shout, Myron. Why should Adenauer say no’ Did we win or did we win? 1 mean, who won the war? He: Sylvia, it’s not who won. It’s a production prob lem … She: My hairdresser had Mrs. Wolf under the dryer yes terday and she just got back from Israel and she says tha 1 Eichmann’s … ^ He: Sylvia, Eichmann’s in jail! Now listen. Kennedy’) going to follow (he same tight money policies that … She: Jackie’s adorable! Selma says the same woman 01 73rd Street makes her dresses as makes Mitzi Gaynor, am that … He: (putting his hand on his stomach) Sylvia, I’m geltinj that cramp again. Is it gold you’re wanting or Sclma be cause … She: Selma voted for Nixon. He: I don’t believe it. She: Why should she lie? It’s Ihe father. Selma say! in 1936 … He: With Selma I couldn’t care less. Now if it’s gold- olherwise, shut up, Sylvia, please. The intermission’s just … She: That Eichmann’s smart. Sclma says Krupp and I. G Farben … He: So all right! She: Don’t shout, Myron. If you can’t discuss intelligently, go back lo the TV.

330 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:28:39pm

re: #329 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I’ve found an OCR version:

That seriously reads like the same diatribes today I see ran about Muslims. Man what a creep.

331 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 13, 2014 2:29:10pm

re: #329 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I don’t get it. Why is he talking about gold?

332 dr. luba  Aug 13, 2014 2:29:33pm

The Onion nails it, as always:

Police Officer Doesn’t See A Difference Between Black, Light-Skinned Black Suspects

FORT WAYNE, IN—Explaining that his sole concern is serving and protecting his community, Fort Wayne police officer Vincent Turner told reporters Wednesday that he does not see any difference between black and light-skinned black suspects. “As an officer of the law, I am committed to administering justice swiftly and even-handedly, regardless of whether the suspect has dark skin or really dark skin,” said Turner, adding that he has no problem giving a full pat-down to any potential criminal or hauling them down to precinct headquarters in the back of his patrol car, even if they are more of a light mocha color. “When you’re responding to reports of gunshots fired, or sprinting down an alleyway, you’re not thinking about where the suspect falls on the spectrum of African-American skin tones—you’re thinking about doing your job. Heck, the guy could be a very dark-looking Latino, for all I care—I treat every one of them the same. He’s still just a suspect to me.” Turner added that his dedication to upholding the law stems from a belief that all local residents should be able to walk their streets without fear, whether they come from an affluent white neighborhood or a working-class white neighborhood.

333 Romantic Heretic  Aug 13, 2014 2:29:57pm

re: #232 FemNaziBitch

The constant confusion of an economic system with a social and justice system.

this

The conflation of ethics and economics never fails to make me shake my head in wonder.

334 Kilroy01  Aug 13, 2014 2:31:46pm

They picked a great place for the

press conference

.
X-ray machines make everyone feel welcome.

335 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:31:58pm

re: #317 wrenchwench

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I wondered the same thing about educated blacks living in the South in the early part of the century. Why didn’t more go to Europe like so many performers did?

I’m certainly glad they stayed, I don’t think I would have. I can’t imagine having to be that tough.

336 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 2:32:17pm

KSDK’s gotta up their game. Still no audio on their site.

337 klys  Aug 13, 2014 2:32:47pm

re: #336 makeitstop

KSDK’s gotta up their game. Still no audio on their site.

Huh, I have audio through them.

Maybe their audio connection tops out or something.

338 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 13, 2014 2:33:14pm

re: #336 makeitstop

KSDK’s gotta up their game. Still no audio on their site.

It took twenty seconds and then popped on for me, right as someone moved a squeaky chair.

339 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:33:32pm

re: #333 Romantic Heretic

The conflation of ethics and economics never fails to make me shake my head in wonder.

because people see the two as one. Economics is the tally sheet for ethics.

340 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 2:33:39pm

#JoshZeppsQuestions is now a thing

341 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 2:34:03pm

re: #331 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

I don’t get it. Why is he talking about gold?

Because in the mind of the NR authors in 1961 Jews were supposed to talk about 1. integration, 2. gold, 3. Eichmann?

342 wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2014 2:34:19pm

re: #335 FemNaziBitch

I wondered the same thing about educated blacks living in the South in the early part of the century. Why didn’t more go to Europe like so many performers did?

I’m certainly glad they stayed, I don’t think I would have. I can’t imagine having to be that tough.

Abandoning the place you grew up is not something a lot of people want to do. Many do, but many don’t. And many would like to but can’t for all kinds of reasons.

343 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:34:21pm

Albert, you pierced the toast.

344 Romantic Heretic  Aug 13, 2014 2:34:38pm

re: #240 FemNaziBitch

Speaking of movies. I figured-out how to access Youtube from my Apple TV (WOOT!!!) and watched all 4 hours of the Spanish Civil War documentary recommened by William Barnett-Lewis and others here on LGF. This was accomplished on Monday night.

There was a lot there to fathom. I mostly gleaned that the Spanish Civil War was a clusterfuck of ideologies. A lot of people died.

Did I get it right?

Yep.

I’m basing a novel I’m working on about the Second American Civil War on the Spanish Civil War. Including the corporatist, religious side (The Falangist role is filled by the Religious Right) being supported by Facist states. Which in a nice piece of irony is mostly Putin’s Russia.

In case you’re wondering, the war is won by the same people that won the Yugoslavian Civil War.

Nobody.

345 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 2:34:58pm

re: #337 klys

Huh, I have audio through them.

Maybe their audio connection tops out or something.

No joy here. Guess I’ll go have a smoke and watch the news choppers swarm.

346 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:35:18pm

re: #334 Kilroy01

They picked a great place for the

.
X-ray machines make everyone feel welcome.

from that site:
Police: Woman left mom’s body in bed since 2010

347 Lidane  Aug 13, 2014 2:35:30pm

Kevin Williamson fails at life, continues to be a racist shitbag while doing so:

Conservative Writer: I Wasn’t Racist When I Described 9-Year-Old Black Kid As A ‘Primate’

348 klys  Aug 13, 2014 2:35:30pm

re: #342 wrenchwench

Abandoning the place you grew up is not something a lot of people want to do. Many do, but many don’t. And many would like to but can’t for all kinds of reasons.

And ultimately, that doesn’t solve the problem. It puts the onus on the people who are the victims of racism, and while some might make the decision to leave for their own mental health/physical safety/whatever, that is not the right answer.

349 klys  Aug 13, 2014 2:36:02pm

re: #345 makeitstop

No joy here. Guess I’ll go have a smoke and watch the news choppers swarm.

At the moment, what I have learned is that reporters should always carry duct tape with them, for attaching their mic to the mic stand.

350 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:37:10pm

re: #347 Lidane

Kevin Williamson fails at life, continues to be a racist shitbag while doing so:

Conservative Writer: I Wasn’t Racist When I Described 9-Year-Old Black Kid As A ‘Primate’

re: #347 Lidane

Kevin Williamson fails at life, continues to be a racist shitbag while doing so:

Conservative Writer: I Wasn’t Racist When I Described 9-Year-Old Black Kid As A ‘Primate’

Yeah remind me of that next time DF tries post one of his articles and present Williamson as one of NRO’s “mature voices” on the subject of race. He’s bred from the same shit stained cloth that Derbyshire and Buckley were. Sorry if it sounds like I am attacking DF personally too, I just want him to know that the NRO is a terrible magazine.

351 klys  Aug 13, 2014 2:37:41pm

re: #340 Kragar

#JoshZeppsQuestions is now a thing

“Not to be naive, but if women don’t want to get raped, why don’t they just dress modestly and avoid dangerous situations?”

/////

352 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:37:48pm

re: #349 klys

At the moment, what I have learned is that reporters should always carry duct tape with them, for attaching their mic to the mic stand.

You’d think Douglas Adams would have included Duct Tape as one of the necessary things all Travelers should have. A Towel, The Guide and Duct Tape.

But, he would have had to give Earth credit for inventing it.

353 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:38:16pm

re: #351 klys

“Not to be naive, but if women don’t want to get raped, why don’t they just dress modestly and avoid dangerous situations?”

/////

“Not to be naive, but if transwomen don’t want to be attacked, shouldn’t they just accept being men?” //

354 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:38:27pm

re: #351 klys

“Not to be naive, but if women don’t want to get raped, why don’t they just dress modestly and avoid dangerous situations?”

/////

Because it doesn’t work.

OK, I get it now.

355 aagcobb  Aug 13, 2014 2:38:34pm

re: #276 EPR-radar

How rude of people to protest when an unarmed kid is shot for no apparent reason by a cop and the entire police department immediately goes into CYA mode instead of investigating.

What’s the world coming to? /////

If you’re not cop, you’re little people

Youtube Video

356 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 2:40:15pm

He is a town Alderman, and the cops aren’t letting him into a press conference.

Shameful

357 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:40:16pm

Al, you old son of a bitch! How ya doin’? How do you feel about that call today? I mean the Dolphins! Fourth-and-three play on their 30 yard line with only 34 seconds to go!

358 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:40:38pm

re: #356 Kragar

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He is a town Alderman, and the cops aren’t letting him into a press conference.

Shameful

Can you say intimidation, yes you can.

359 klys  Aug 13, 2014 2:40:41pm

re: #354 FemNaziBitch

Because it doesn’t work.

OK, I get it now.

I think, ultimately, it is an human question to have. As long as when the answer is presented, people actually think about the answer and realize why that gut reaction isn’t the right one, and why it is naive.

360 aagcobb  Aug 13, 2014 2:40:42pm

re: #296 HappyWarrior

Not sure but Todd Starnes was wondering why Obama didn’t offer condolences to the cop’s family because you know outrage outrage Obama showed empathy to a blah family.

War on Whites continues!

361 jaunte  Aug 13, 2014 2:41:20pm

re: #356 Kragar

The Incompetence Continues.

362 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 13, 2014 2:41:23pm

re: #341 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Because in the mind of the NR authors in 1961 Jews were supposed to talk about 1. integration, 2. gold, 3. Eichmann?

Wow. Did they pair it with an article of a black couple discussing fried chicken, Jimmi Hendrix, and Cassius Clay?

363 klys  Aug 13, 2014 2:44:09pm

While we wait for the press conference to start…

364 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 2:44:12pm

re: #329 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I’ve found an OCR version:

The author, WH Von Dreele, was writing for NR at least up until 2003, when he penned a “poem” in support of the Iraq invasion called “Chirac plays Samson”.

365 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 2:44:18pm

re: #349 klys

At the moment, what I have learned is that reporters should always carry duct tape with them, for attaching their mic to the mic stand.

BREAKING (or broken) NEWS!

366 klys  Aug 13, 2014 2:44:34pm

Oh, look, a person.

367 Bubblehead II  Aug 13, 2014 2:45:24pm

re: #243 Charles Johnson

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368 klys  Aug 13, 2014 2:45:28pm

This press conference won’t cover: evidence in the case.

Glad we got that out of the way.

369 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2014 2:45:37pm

re: #326 BeachDem

Thinking good thoughts. (If I say Bethlehem/Nazareth, PA I think you’ll know who I am.)

OMG! It’s you!
Thanks so much again for that time long ago!

370 Kilroy01  Aug 13, 2014 2:45:50pm

He got the age of Brown wrong (18) in the first 20 seconds.

Off to a great start.

371 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:45:59pm

re: #364 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The author, WH Von Dreele, was writing for NR at least up until 2003, when he penned a “poem” in support of the Iraq invasion called “Chirac plays Samson”.

Interesting. Good research as always. This is great material the next time NRO wants to paint Obama, the Democrats, or the Left as being Anti-Semitic.

372 Romantic Heretic  Aug 13, 2014 2:46:00pm

re: #339 FemNaziBitch

because people see the two as one. Economics is the tally sheet for ethics.

As I once noted to a ‘capitalist’ who said something similar, “I guess that makes your average Mexican drug lord a fine example of a human being.”

He gave the usual response. He started foaming and accused me of being a Communist.

Sad.

373 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:46:25pm

re: #370 Kilroy01

He got the age of Brown wrong (18) in the first 20 seconds.

Off to a great start.

Sheriff Derp.

374 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:47:20pm

re: #372 Romantic Heretic

As I once noted to a ‘capitalist’ who said something similar, “I guess that makes your average Mexican drug lord a fine example of a human being.”

He gave the usual response. He started foaming and accused me of being a Communist.

Sad.

Anyone to them who doesn’t think that it’s right for an employer to exploit his workers is a communist. I’d take it as a compliment. Better a communist honestly than a feudal wannabe.

375 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 2:47:43pm

The last poem by Von Dreele that I could find in EBSCO is dated 2005:
connection.ebscohost.com

376 Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2014 2:49:35pm

?? No sound here @ work.

377 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 2:50:07pm

re: #375 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The last poem by Von Dreele that I could find in EBSCO is dated 2005:
connection.ebscohost.com

Seems like he was there a long time. What do we know about Von Dreele himself outside being a shitty poet.

378 klys  Aug 13, 2014 2:50:26pm

re: #376 Stanley Sea

?? No sound here @ work.

You’re not missing much.

“Please give us all evidence you might have, here’s how the investigation will go, we’ll give it all to the grand jury, while working with the feds.”

379 TedStriker  Aug 13, 2014 2:50:30pm

re: #297 TedStriker

“Executed for jaywalking”.

That ought to look real good on the tombstone.

I knew that what I was saying in this post sounded familiar, then the light bulb went off over my head; I pretty much paraphrased Richard Crenna from First Blood:

Sheriff Teasle: He was just another drifter who broke the law!
Col. Trautman: Vagrancy, wasn’t it? That’s gonna look real good on his gravestone in Arlington: Here lies John Rambo, winner of the Congressional Medal of Honor, survivor of countless incursions behind enemy lines. Killed for vagrancy in Jerkwater, USA.
Teasle: Now don’t give me any of that crap, Trautman. Do you think Rambo was the only guy who had a tough time in Vietnam? He killed a police officer for Christ’s sake!
Trautman: You’re goddamn lucky he didn’t kill all of you.

380 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 2:50:38pm

re: #376 Stanley Sea

?? No sound here @ work.

I can’t even get past the ad. Gets to 11 seconds then stops cold.

Stupid internet.

381 jaunte  Aug 13, 2014 2:51:15pm

The growing similarity between our domestic police forces and the U.S. military is a result of the Pentagon’s 1033 Program. This allows the Defense Department to donate surplus military equipment and weapons to law enforcement agencies. In addition to the frightening presence of paramilitary weapons in American towns, the program has led to rampant fraud and abuse.
…
Shocking, almost comical, examples of abuse have been well-documented — from the officer who sold his weapons on eBay, to the one who lent his weapons to unauthorized friends and the police departments that lost the military weapons or tried to auction them off.
……
Taxpayer money should not have to support the costs of maintaining the weapons of war that local police forces have acquired. Citizens deserve to know that their congressional leaders and law enforcement officers are working together to protect them — not recklessly engaging in a gluttonous arms race or irresponsibly losing dangerous weapons.

382 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 2:51:30pm

re: #377 HappyWarrior

From a comment on Delong’s blog it seems he wrote quite a lot of racist poems starting in 1960 and into the 80s.

383 FemNaziBitch  Aug 13, 2014 2:54:18pm

re: #381 jaunte

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I thought firearms were not eligible for ebay sales?

384 Romantic Heretic  Aug 13, 2014 2:54:40pm

re: #374 HappyWarrior

Anyone to them who doesn’t think that it’s right for an employer to exploit his workers is a communist. I’d take it as a compliment. Better a communist honestly than a feudal wannabe.

Actually, those people are far closer to Marx than they realize.

Like Marx they believe that capitalism will push for every advantage it can get in the pursuit of profit no matter what damage gets done to society in the process. The only difference between them and Marx is they think this is a good thing.

They also, although they don’t say so out loud, believe that such behaviour will trigger a class war. Their difference from Marx is they think they, the bourgeoisie, will win it rather than the proletariat.

Minor differences really.

385 jaunte  Aug 13, 2014 2:55:43pm

re: #383 FemNaziBitch

NPR says:

The firearms manager for the program in North Carolina pleaded guilty in April to stealing M-14 and M-16 assault rifles and other weapons, selling some on eBay for more than $30,000.

I don’t know. Maybe there’s a workaround.

386 klys  Aug 13, 2014 2:57:31pm

Probably the most useful thing so far is that he’s committed to releasing all evidence at some point, either during the trial or, if the grand jury declines to indict, he will seek the appropriate court orders to release it at that point.

387 ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2014 2:58:06pm

re: #373 HappyWarrior

Sheriff Derp.

Sheriff Derpartment.

388 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 3:00:00pm

re: #386 klys

Probably the most useful thing so far is that he’s committed to releasing all evidence at some point, either during the trial or, if the grand jury declines to indict, he will seek the appropriate court orders to release it at that point.

In other words, if this doesn’t go to trial and a judge decides against release, we’ll never know anything about this trial that hasn’t been leaked and this cop will walk free without any consequences.

389 ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2014 3:00:08pm

I don’t always watch Rev Al, but when I do, it is when he is going to do coverage on Ferguson, Missouri like no one else will!

390 klys  Aug 13, 2014 3:00:21pm

…they expect the review for the officer involved shooting that happened this morning to be completed in an hour or two, including a determination on whether or not to file charges, but can’t give a timeline on Saturday’s one.

391 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2014 3:00:41pm

re: #326 BeachDem

Thinking good thoughts. (If I say Bethlehem/Nazareth, PA I think you’ll know who I am.)

Back story on this.
MrBWS and his crews showed up very very late one day when they were called out on storm.
After spending most of the day traveling and dealing with horrific road conditions, they found themselves in the neighborhood of Bethelem/Nazareth PA and no available hotel rooms.
I put out the sad story on another blog and BeachDem (aka another nic there) had a friend who happened to be a nun who operated a halfway house and was more than willing to open the place up for the linemen.
As we were coordinating arrangements, the company managed to find hotel accommodations.
But the power of the internet made itself known and the guys were grateful there was indeed a room for them in Bethlehem/Nazareth if needed.
Oh, and when MrBWS first called home that day he was singing “The Weight” and then asked “Guess where I am??”
:D

392 jaunte  Aug 13, 2014 3:01:27pm

re: #383 FemNaziBitch

I thought firearms were not eligible for ebay sales?

Looks like he was selling the parts:

Acting on a tip from a former NCLESS employee, investigators found that Minish had sold numerous items on eBay, including night vision equipment, gun sights and parts for trench guns, since 2005, according to court documents.
Read more at wral.com
wral.com

393 Kilroy01  Aug 13, 2014 3:01:32pm

re: #390 klys

…they expect the review for the officer involved shooting that happened this morning to be completed in an hour or two, including a determination on whether or not to file charges, but can’t give a timeline on Saturday’s one.

Well that one was obviously justified.
The one Saturday the evidence is still be “reviewed”.

394 klys  Aug 13, 2014 3:02:01pm

re: #388 Targetpractice

In other words, if this doesn’t go to trial and a judge decides against release, we’ll never know anything about this trial that hasn’t been leaked and this cop will walk free without any consequences.

I believe there is some stuff that can be released without court order; it’s because he’s committing to trying to release everything that judges get involved.

395 wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2014 3:02:33pm

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s so cool.

396 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 13, 2014 3:02:52pm
397 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 3:04:57pm
Francisco Franco .
Authors:
Buckley, F.R.
Source:
National Review. 11/21/1975, Vol. 27 Issue 45, p1283-1284. 2p.
Document Type:
Article
Subjects:
FRANCO, Francisco, 1892-1975
DICTATORS
PATRIOTISM
DICTATORSHIP
LAW
LOYALTY
CONDUCT of life
Geographic Terms:
SPAIN
Abstract:
Profiles Francisco Franco, dictator of Spain. Claim that much of the world viewed Franco differently, misunderstanding him, even detesting him; Claim that he devoted his life to his country with singleminded patriotism; Information on his attempt through his Organic Law to establish a constitutional structure for the future; Discussion on the errors committed by Franco over his 38 years of unchallenged rule.
398 klys  Aug 13, 2014 3:05:04pm
399 BeachDem  Aug 13, 2014 3:05:43pm

re: #295 Targetpractice

One wingnut was sneering the other night about how the President offered condolences to the Brown family, but not to the cop.

That was the lovely Todd Starnes, best described by TBogg:

“literal embodiment of what comes out of your ass if you contract Ebola…he possesses the the ability to take the most anodyne story and pump it up to levels of mendacity and stupidity that would make Jim Hoft blush, and Hoft is the Dumbest Man on the Internet, mind you.”

400 klys  Aug 13, 2014 3:06:54pm
401 wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2014 3:09:09pm

The moron Josh Zepps (he of the hashtag) is not just another online idiot. He gets paid for it.

Host of @HuffPostLive and @PointOfInquiry, a podcast for reason & science. Contributor on NBC’s @TODAYshow. Traveler. Martini-lover. Scrabble-hater. Male(ish)

He has a fucking blue checkmark.

402 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 3:13:37pm

re: #397 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

While uttering a few mildest criticisms, he ends his eulogy of the fascist dictator thus:

…he was nevertheless a Spaniard out of the heroic annals of the nation, a giant. He will be truly mourned by Spain because with all his heart and might and soul, he loved his country and, in the vast context of Spanish history, did well by it.

403 Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2014 3:14:41pm

re: #402 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

While uttering a few mildest criticisms, he ends his eulogy of the fascist dictator thus:

Lorca begs to differ.

404 NJDhockeyfan  Aug 13, 2014 3:16:33pm
405 BeachDem  Aug 13, 2014 3:18:02pm

re: #347 Lidane

Kevin Williamson fails at life, continues to be a racist shitbag while doing so:

Conservative Writer: I Wasn’t Racist When I Described 9-Year-Old Black Kid As A ‘Primate’

And talk about the understatement of all times, in the TPM article:

Race-relations is something that National Review has had trouble grappling with at times

406 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 3:18:32pm

re: #404 NJDhockeyfan

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Yeah, because we all remember how much of a “troublemaker” Dr. King was.

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407 klys  Aug 13, 2014 3:19:15pm

re: #404 NJDhockeyfan

His, ummm, concern is not going to contribute to a reasonable discussion.

408 ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2014 3:20:01pm

re: #404 NJDhockeyfan

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Newsmax. Pfffft.

409 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 3:21:00pm

re: #403 Decatur Deb

That’s staple apologetics, the same and more is said about Stalin, etc.

410 wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2014 3:21:08pm

re: #407 klys

His, ummm, concern is not going to contribute to a reasonable discussion.

The spectacle has already been created by the police department. A black politician is an improvement for the ‘optics’.

411 allegro  Aug 13, 2014 3:21:13pm

Because a mile long procession of military vehicles and hundreds of guys in combat gear with grenade launchers isn’t spectacle enough.

Are these guys on crack or something?

412 wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2014 3:21:49pm

re: #411 allegro

Because a mile long procession of military vehicles and hundreds of guys in combat gear with grenade launchers isn’t spectacle enough.

Are these guys on crack or something?

Check the evidence lockers.

413 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 3:22:45pm

re: #411 allegro

Because a mile long procession of military vehicles and hundreds of guys in combat gear with grenade launchers isn’t spectacle enough.

Are these guys on crack or something?

Stupid, evil, or racist. Pick two.

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414 gwangung  Aug 13, 2014 3:24:05pm

re: #413 Targetpractice

Stupid, evil, or racist. Pick two.

//

Not all three?

415 BeachDem  Aug 13, 2014 3:26:04pm

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMG! It’s you!
Thanks so much again for that time long ago!

I still love telling that story to people (they ask me to please stop singing when I try to imitate Mr. Sleuth!)

416 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 3:26:06pm

NR has been consistently on the wrong side of history since its founding, in direct accordance with Buckley’s motto about “standing athwart…”. They’ve been wrong so consistently, that the 1950s WFB would have condemned the WFB of 1990s for accepting MLK, integration, …

417 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 3:27:17pm

And The Onion nails it

“As an officer of the law, I am committed to administering justice swiftly and even-handedly, regardless of whether the suspect has dark skin or really dark skin,” said Turner, adding that he has no problem giving a full pat-down to any potential criminal or hauling them down to precinct headquarters in the back of his patrol car, even if they are more of a light mocha color.

418 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 3:31:20pm

re: #416 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

NR has been consistently on the wrong side of history since its founding, in direct accordance with Buckley’s motto about “standing athwart…”. They’ve been wrong so consistently, that the 1950s WFB would have condemned the WFB of 1990s for accepting MLK, integration, …

Have they been right about any cultural issue ever? Honest question.

419 ausador  Aug 13, 2014 3:32:41pm

Times Square Guitar Center (AKA Hell?)

Youtube Video

420 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 3:33:13pm

re: #403 Decatur Deb

Lorca begs to differ.

You may have heard about the death of Valeriya Novodvorskaya, some called her “the grandmother of the Russian liberalism”. I don’t think she was a liberal at all, at the very least not in the American sense. She was more of a neocon libertarian, if you can imagine the mix. Anyway, she loved her some Franco and Pinochet (anti-Communists), but at the same time at least she admitted that being the rebel she was, she would have probably been shot in Franco’s Spain, just like her favorite poet Lorca was.

421 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2014 3:33:21pm

re: #415 BeachDem

I still love telling that story to people (they ask me to please stop singing when I try to imitate Mr. Sleuth!)

heh…my favorite all time story about how the internet absolutely rocks!

422 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 3:35:44pm

re: #402 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

While uttering a few mildest criticisms, he ends his eulogy of the fascist dictator thus:

That should be pointed out to Jonah Goldberg everytime he tries the Liberal Fascism fail.

423 Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2014 3:36:02pm

re: #416 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

NR has been consistently on the wrong side of history since its founding, in direct accordance with Buckley’s motto about “standing athwart…”. They’ve been wrong so consistently, that the 1950s WFB would have condemned the WFB of 1990s for accepting MLK, integration, …

Ah, yes; “……..standing athwart history and yelling stop!”

Because that’s worked so well thus far.

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424 ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2014 3:36:19pm

re: #419 ausador

Times Square Guitar Center (AKA Hell?)

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Video

Now that would have fit well with the “Frank Says” that pops up from time to time about the “weedly-weedly-wee.” guitar solo only multiplied.

425 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 3:36:29pm

re: #422 HappyWarrior

That should be pointed out to Jonah Goldberg everytime he tries the Liberal Fascism fail.

Of course he knows.

426 HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2014 3:37:31pm

re: #425 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Of course he knows.

Of course. He does, i just want to see his face when its pointed out American cons loved Franco.

427 wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2014 3:39:36pm

Mr. w calls her ‘Agave Maria’, interpreting all the spiky stuff around her as agaves.

428 klys  Aug 13, 2014 3:40:40pm

Another witness account. I’m sticking it below a spoiler tag so folks can skip it if they want to, but …it seems to go against what you would hope the training would say for cops.

Click to Reveal

“As I was coming around, I heard the tires squeaking on the truck, and as I get closer, I see them tussling through the window. The kid was pulling off and the cop was pulling in,” Mitchell said.

[…]

“After the shot, the kid just breaks away. The cop follows him, kept shooting, the kid’s body jerked as if he was hit. After his body jerked he turns around, puts his hands up, and the cop continues to walk up on him and continues to shoot until he goes all the way down,” Mitchell said.

429 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 3:42:13pm

re: #427 wrenchwench

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Mr. w calls her ‘Agave Maria’, interpreting all the spiky stuff around her as agaves.

A folkish interpretation of folkish iconography. I like it :)

430 TedStriker  Aug 13, 2014 3:42:46pm

re: #416 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

NR has been consistently on the wrong side of history since its founding, in direct accordance with Buckley’s motto about “standing athwart…”. They’ve been wrong so consistently, that the 1950s WFB would have condemned the WFB of 1990s for accepting MLK, integration, …

re: #418 HappyWarrior

Have they been right about any cultural issue ever? Honest question.

Man, the LGF of old (before the Great Flouncing) would’ve never stood for Lizards even questioning WFB, much less any real criticism of him or National Review under his watch.

Times have indeed changed, babies

431 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 3:42:58pm

the protesters say the university should honor its Confederate heritage instead of obscuring it.

“How can you take a Confederate school built by Confederates in a Confederate state and say you’re not Confederate?” said Debbie Sible, who helped organize the protest. “It’s like my dog trying to dress up my cat.”

Sible, whose two sons attend the university, said the Civil War was fought over states’ rights, which she insisted had little to do with slavery.

“People in the South should be proud,” she said. “They should be so proud if they knew the type [of] men that were in the Confederacy, and we haven’t seen men like them since probably the Spartans in the 300 -phenomenal, and our people grow up and our kids [are] ashamed, not knowing the truth.”

Well, I know a certain someone who certainly should just fuck right the hell off.

432 wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2014 3:46:07pm

Jamelle Bowie is in Ferguson.

433 BeenHereAwhile  Aug 13, 2014 3:53:48pm

re: #124 klys

They claim that the officer went to the hospital for his facial injuries. But he didn’t even know which side of the face.

Did the victim’s hands have any contusions, cuts or abrasions.

434 klys  Aug 13, 2014 3:55:47pm

re: #433 BeenHereAwhile

Did the victim’s hands have any contusions, cuts or abrasions.

Unknown at this time, as they are not releasing autopsy results and the family has not had the body long enough for a second examination to be completed yet.

435 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 3:56:34pm

re: #428 klys

Another witness account. I’m sticking it below a spoiler tag so folks can skip it if they want to, but …it seems to go against what you would hope the training would say for cops.

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From the sounds of it, the cop tried to make things physical. Perhaps Brown got close to the vehicle, the cop reached out and grabbed them, there was a scuffle as Brown tried to get away, and the cop decided that he wasn’t going to let this “punk” get away.

436 A Mom Anon  Aug 13, 2014 3:57:56pm

re: #432 wrenchwench

So maybe there could be what one might call a “pattern of behavior” here…

My surprise, I know it’s around here somewhere….

437 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 3:59:38pm

re: #419 ausador

Times Square Guitar Center (AKA Hell?)

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Video

That’s why I hate going to Guitar Center. Bad Solo Hell.

438 allegro  Aug 13, 2014 4:00:54pm

Just how far would one have to stretch credulity to suggest an 18 year old black kid would reach inside a cop car to attack a cop for being told to move to the sidewalk? Seriously?

The closest I can come is to picture the cop hanging on to the kid (suggested by eyewitness accounts) while pointing his gun at him. I could see the kid trying to knock the gun away to, yanno, keep his head from being blown off.

439 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 13, 2014 4:02:23pm

Ferguson police chief: 911 audio to be released ‘shortly’

I’m guessing they still need time to “edit”…
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440 Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2014 4:07:34pm

re: #438 allegro

Just how far would one have to stretch credulity to suggest an 18 year old black kid would reach inside a cop car to attack a cop for being told to move to the sidewalk? Seriously?

The closest I can come is to picture the cop hanging on to the kid (suggested by eyewitness accounts) while pointing his gun at him. I could see the kid trying to knock the gun away to, yanno, keep his head from being blown off.

I get the feeling that the cop didn’t like that Brown wasn’t respecting his authority and reached out of the vehicle to grab Brown in an attempt to show dominance. Put a scare in the black kid to show him that the white cop is the one in charge.

441 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 4:11:00pm

There are rumors that Strelkov is either wounded, or has left Donetsk, or both. Probably just propaganda. But he hasn’t been seen for a while.

442 allegro  Aug 13, 2014 4:11:04pm

re: #440 Targetpractice

I get the feeling that the cop didn’t like that Brown wasn’t respecting his authority and reached out of the vehicle to grab Brown in an attempt to show dominance. Put a scare in the black kid to show him that the white cop is the one in charge.

That sounds entirely possible.

443 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 4:13:04pm

444 KiTA  Aug 13, 2014 4:14:36pm

Not to be too off topic, but holy Christ these DCCC fundraising emails are getting out of hand. I’ve been on vacation for 2 weeks and have gotten dozens of them. Heck, I’ve gotten like 8 today alone. They’ve even started switching to spam tactics - for example, the latest email isn’t from “Nancy Pelosi” its from “Ｎａｎｃｙ Ｐｅｌｏｓｉ” and all the zeroes are replaced with Os.

445 EPR-radar  Aug 13, 2014 4:15:51pm

re: #416 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

NR has been consistently on the wrong side of history since its founding, in direct accordance with Buckley’s motto about “standing athwart…”. They’ve been wrong so consistently, that the 1950s WFB would have condemned the WFB of 1990s for accepting MLK, integration, …

I’ve come to the conclusion that conservatism as a political philosophy is inherently useless, except in times of reforming zealotry where change and disruption for its own sake is embraced (e.g., the worst excesses of the French Revolution).

The present-day US is most certainly not in a time of “reforming zealotry where change and disruption for its own sake is embraced”, leaving US conservatives with nothing better to do than nurse imaginary grievances.

446 allegro  Aug 13, 2014 4:22:37pm

To distract from this distressing week of news (and some personally sad stuff that has left my heart seriously dented), I’m having my two bestest friends over this weekend for an Iron Man movie marathon.

To appeal to our adult tastebuds, I’m fixing bruschetta and boursin cheese with fresh herbs from my little garden for appetizers/snacks. To keep with the Marvel theme and appeal to our inner kids, our main meal will be hamburgers and fries with snow cones - choice of cherry or grape - for dessert. There will also be wine, frozen margaritas, rum & coke, mohitos…

So looking forward to Saturday.

447 Mattand  Aug 13, 2014 4:23:14pm

re: #404 NJDhockeyfan

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Yeah, if Sharpton were only a white cop who murders teenagers, he’d fit right in.

448 klys  Aug 13, 2014 4:23:56pm

re: #446 allegro

I get to crash this, right?

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Dinner tonight will probably involve something with the ravioli from the store, plus homemade tomato sauce and …I dunno, I got nothing. A headache.

449 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 13, 2014 4:24:16pm

re: #243 Charles Johnson

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450 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 4:25:06pm
451 darthstar  Aug 13, 2014 4:25:53pm
452 Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2014 4:27:05pm

re: #451 darthstar

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My DOG. That is unbelievable.

453 makeitstop  Aug 13, 2014 4:28:34pm

Insult to injury dept.: It’s pouring. Again.

454 Kragar  Aug 13, 2014 4:28:35pm

re: #449 Pie-onist Overlord

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“ITS NOT HATE WHEN ITS TRUE!” - where you can find hundred of comments comparing minorities to animals and liberals to Nazis

455 abolitionist  Aug 13, 2014 4:28:48pm

re: #404 NJDhockeyfan

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re: #451 darthstar

Why aren’t they all on the fucking sidewalk?
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456 EPR-radar  Aug 13, 2014 4:31:25pm

re: #451 darthstar

What’s next? Tanks? This picture reminds me of the Tiananmen square atrocity.

457 Bubblehead II  Aug 13, 2014 4:31:47pm

Night Lizards. As usual I (try) to leave you with a musical exit. Good night and may the Deity smile down upon you and yours.

Youtube Video

458 BeachDem  Aug 13, 2014 4:32:00pm

re: #452 Stanley Sea

My DOG. That is unbelievable.

It’s just so jaw-droppingly tone deaf. It’s just getting more and more frightening for the Ferguson residents. The chief was right when he said it’s a war zone—but it’s definitely the cops waging the war against those they’re supposed to be serving.

459 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 13, 2014 4:33:34pm

Again, a sniper:

460 ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2014 4:33:51pm

It sounds as if the police want no one out after dark tonight. No protest at all.

This is all going to put Ferguson Missouri in the history books. I think the city officials face the decision of how bad they want to be recorded in history. I have a bad feeling about tonight. This is a modern Kent State-like situation “line in the sand’ stance and those can be problematic.

I hope someone in the Police Department can provide the cool head.

461 De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2014 4:34:31pm

re: #427 wrenchwench

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Mr. w calls her ‘Agave Maria’, interpreting all the spiky stuff around her as agaves.

There’s a horny/hornitos pun in there somewhere.

462 Stanley Sea  Aug 13, 2014 4:36:45pm

No doubt there are some terse conversations going on al a Bobby Kennedy/Hoover.

463 b.d.  Aug 13, 2014 4:36:59pm

re: #459 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Again, a sniper:

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Time to send in the National Guard and put them in the middle?

464 De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2014 4:37:40pm

re: #451 darthstar

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Jeez, that almost looks like an aircraft carrier behind the troops cops.

At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.

465 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 4:38:17pm

Where are the f’n Feds?

466 darthstar  Aug 13, 2014 4:38:35pm
467 BeachDem  Aug 13, 2014 4:39:26pm

re: #460 ObserverArt

It sounds as if the police want no one out after dark tonight. No protest at all.

This is all going to put Ferguson Missouri in the history books. I think the city officials face the decision of how bad they want to be recorded in history. I have a bad feeling about tonight. This is a modern Kent State-like situation “line in the sand’ stance and those can be problematic.

I hope someone in the Police Department can provide the cool head.

More like the Orangeburg Massacre.

orangeburgmassacre.com

468 ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2014 4:39:36pm

So, now they are reporting that “off the street by dark” is not a hard line. But then they also say the police have more people and equipment each night. The signals are mixed.

469 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 4:39:38pm

Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran
Gently down the stream

470 allegro  Aug 13, 2014 4:40:23pm

re: #451 darthstar

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But goddamned Al Sharpton is gonna create a spectacle with his appearance.

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471 calochortus  Aug 13, 2014 4:43:33pm

Gah, I checked in here to see if the world had improved while I was doing other things.

I guess it hasn’t.

472 ObserverArt  Aug 13, 2014 4:43:37pm

re: #470 allegro

But goddamned Al Sharpton is gonna create a spectacle with his appearance.

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Damn straight. That is why they ramped up the heavy equipment. You know what happens to groups of African-Americans and their sympathizers when AL and Jesse invite themselves in to race bait and pour the gasoline.

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473 klys  Aug 13, 2014 4:47:21pm
474 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 13, 2014 4:48:25pm

Stupid kids these days! In our time we hid bodies without any newfangled thingamabobs, we only had shovels!///

independent.co.uk

475 De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2014 4:52:53pm

re: #448 klys

Dinner tonight will probably involve something with the ravioli from the store, plus homemade tomato sauce and …I dunno, I got nothing. A headache.

Took the F train to 7th Ave in Park Slope this afternoon to pick up some of Russo’s Mozzarella & Pasta’s superb rigatoni. One bite and you’re in old Napoli.

As to sauce, my wife starts off with a carrot and onion base. I won’t give away any of her secrets, but suffice it to say we haven’t felt the need to go to an Italian restaurant for over 25 years. Though I’ve long suspected she’s Sophia Loren’s long-lost sister, she’s African American and from Baltimore, where folks know how to cook.

476 BeenHereAwhile  Aug 13, 2014 4:57:18pm

re: #434 klys

Unknown at this time, as they are not releasing autopsy results and the family has not had the body long enough for a second examination to be completed yet.

Sorry, didn’t make myself clear. The question, “did the victim’s hands have any contusions, cuts, abrasions or tissue under the fingernails consistent with the victim allegedly striking the officer’s face,” would be determined by the second examination.

477 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 13, 2014 5:28:11pm

re: #431 Kragar

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Well, I know a certain someone who certainly should just fuck right the hell off.

478 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 13, 2014 5:46:49pm

re: #431 Kragar

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Well, I know a certain someone who certainly should just fuck right the hell off.

479 De Kolta Chair  Aug 13, 2014 6:20:40pm

re: #478 Pie-onist Overlord

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Sherman was one bad mofo. He co-founded the first Shakespearean society in the U.S. A man of astonishing contradictions who’s autobiography is one of the most fascinating I’ve ever read. His friend Ulysses Grant wrote the best autobiography I’ve ever read, published by Mark Twain no less.


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