Paris City Council Votes to Sue Fox News Over False “No-Go Zones” Reports

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Last month, Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo announced on CNN that she planned to sue Fox News for defaming the city of Paris with their false claims about Muslim-controlled “no-go zones.” (And I should add that conservatives all over the media are still repeating these false claims.)

Today in Paris, the City Council voted to go ahead with the lawsuit, which promises to provide much amusement to us connoisseurs of inadvertent right wing humor.

Lawyers for Fox News say they’ll fight the suit, of course, because fear-mongering lies are protected free speech in the US.

A law firm representing Fox News said the broadcaster would fight any lawsuit brought in Paris.

“The decision by the City of Paris to bring legal proceedings against a United States news organization is antithetical to free speech,” according to a statement provided by Fox News from lawyer Dori Ann Hanswirth of the Hogan Lovells law firm. “Fox News will invoke every protection afforded it under all applicable laws.”

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273 comments
1 Teukka  Feb 17, 2015 2:21:39pm

I wonder what chargest/complaints the city of Paris will bring against Fox News…

2 WhatEVs  Feb 17, 2015 2:22:19pm

I’d think the key is where they sue. Hopefully, it’ll be the UK. They are brutal on bullshit.

3 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 17, 2015 2:22:55pm

what? lying on the news isnt legal in france??

4 Teukka  Feb 17, 2015 2:23:16pm

I hope it will be charges and/or complaints which Fox News doesn’t expect at all.

5 Teukka  Feb 17, 2015 2:24:47pm

re: #3 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

what? lying on the news isnt legal in france??

Most European countries have limits to what you can say as a news organization or as a broadcaster.
Mind you, it is hard to run into them, but they’re there.

6 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 17, 2015 2:27:16pm

So…. getting called on outright lies and falsehoods is “antithetical to free speech” in their eyes? Well I guess that in that case there would be nothing wrong with me saying that they are bottom feeding scum who aren’t worthy to clean the spittoons in a brothel.

But that would be a falsehood, because it’s well known that no self respecting brothel would lower their standards to that level.

RBS

7 Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2015 2:27:32pm

re: #3 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

what? lying on the news isnt legal in france??

French law dating back to 1881 says insulting the honor of a French body or person can be grounds for filing a defamation suit. Which is why Fox is likely going to try to get this case heard in a US court.

8 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2015 2:27:49pm

gee…in what other country, where French is spoken in the capital city, did Fox have a very recent and humiliating defeat?

9 Teukka  Feb 17, 2015 2:28:19pm

re: #7 Targetpractice

French law dating back to 1881 says insulting the honor of a French body or person can be grounds for filing a defamation suit. Which is why Fox is likely going to try to get this case heard in a US court.

If the lawsuit will be a defamation one.

10 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 17, 2015 2:29:21pm

player.canalplus.fr

11 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 17, 2015 2:29:27pm

I guess that those cheese eating surrender monkeys have forgotten just who came to their aid when they were invaded by the Japanese in WWII.

12 aagcobb  Feb 17, 2015 2:32:55pm

re: #11 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I guess that those cheese eating surrender monkeys have forgotten just who came to their aid when they were invaded by the Japanese in WWII.

Rupert Murdoch!

13 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2015 2:33:51pm

really, this can stop any time now. Alaskans are looking for their snow and cold:

14 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 17, 2015 2:34:12pm

Don’t know how to get that video to embed but click on the link, it’s worth it.

15 Great White Snark  Feb 17, 2015 2:35:24pm

Hey Fox- Speech may be free but defamation and damned lies can cost ya. Deal with it.

Edit
I think it was France where film maker Von Trier got busted for hate speech.

16 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 17, 2015 2:35:32pm

re: #7 Targetpractice

insulting the honor of a French body

i swear to god i have never uttered a negative word about brigitte bardot

17 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 17, 2015 2:37:02pm

re: #16 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i swear to god i have never uttered a negative word about brigitte bardot

I don’t know man, I thought she was a little hippy.

18 Varek Raith  Feb 17, 2015 2:38:48pm
“The decision by the City of Paris to bring legal proceedings against a United States news organization is antithetical to free speech,”

That’s a doozy.

19 Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2015 2:40:00pm

re: #18 Varek Raith

That’s a doozy.

Ah, that “personal responsibility” I’m always told that wingnuts are big on.

20 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 2:41:32pm

This is from a commenter over at Gawker:

The important thing to note is that they’re not suing Fox under US Law (because it would probably go nowhere and they’ve probably been informed of this by the French Ambassador in Washington).

The lawsuit is most likely in French Court (which has a lower standard of proof for libel cases than US courts, and less restrained by Free Speech statutes like courts in the US are) and I also wouldn’t be surprised if a similar suit had been, or will be filed in European (EU) court (Which is actually more serious and a bigger deal because that ruling wouldn’t just be binding to France but to EU member states).

More than likely Fox’s ability report and operate (effectively) in France is what would be effected, with broader implications in the rest of Europe which is why they were so quick to come out with that apology last week—which you never EVER see them do in the US even when they’ve been proven patently wrong in their reporting by THEIR OWN news reporting, sometimes.

Britain and Birmingham was probably never going to sue—despite Rupert Murdoch’s shaky relationship with the government there over the phone hacking scandal, due to similar high standards for libel suits (which is why the tabloids there put the US Tabloids to shame), and also because Murdoch has a lot of connections (read: business interests) there, but the situation is vastly different in France.

tktk.gawker.com

21 Decatur Deb  Feb 17, 2015 2:44:31pm

re: #19 Targetpractice

Ah, that “personal responsibility” I’m always told that wingnuts are big on.

If it’s to be personal responsibility, Madame Mayor could run an epee through Murdoch at dawn,

22 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 2:45:28pm
23 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 17, 2015 2:50:08pm

re: #11 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I guess that those cheese eating surrender monkeys have forgotten just who came to their aid when they were invaded by the Japanese in WWII.

Oklahoma history!

24 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 2:52:44pm

Oh hell, my grandson has to do the mountain route tonight. I’ll stop worrying when he gets home in the am. His boss actually had to come pick him up. There was a fatal accident last night up around Asheville, but they were salting secondary roads (where most of his stops are) today.

I’m a worry wart…

25 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 17, 2015 2:52:58pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

really, this can stop any time now. Alaskans are looking for their snow and cold:

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I was joking with someone, I think Mother Nature looked at her day planner, realized that she was almost out of time, and decided to fit all winter into 1 week.

RBS

26 #FergusonFireside  Feb 17, 2015 2:54:11pm

Wait for it!!!

27 team_fukit  Feb 17, 2015 2:57:18pm

Love how they’re defending “free speach” rather than their own reporting

28 Mattand  Feb 17, 2015 3:07:23pm

re: #24 Justanotherhuman

Oh hell, my grandson has to do the mountain route tonight. I’ll stop worrying when he gets home in the am. His boss actually had to come pick him up. There was a fatal accident last night up around Asheville, but they were salting secondary roads (where most of his stops are) today.

I’m a worry wart…

I don’t blame you. We rented a place on Black Mountain once, and some of the roads made me nervous when they were dry. I can’t imagine what they’re like with snow and ice.

29 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 3:08:07pm

re: #28 Mattand

I don’t blame you. We rented a place on Black Mountain once, and some of the roads made me nervous when they were dry. I can’t imagine what they’re like with snow and ice.

I think his end point is Robbinsville which is close to the TN border. Snaky roads…

cherohala.com

30 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2015 3:10:46pm

re: #28 Mattand

I don’t blame you. We rented a place on Black Mountain once, and some of the roads made me nervous when they were dry. I can’t imagine what they’re like with snow and ice.

Right now, I don’t have a road. Just a vast wasteland of cold whiteness.

I feel like a pioneer.

It sucks.

31 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 3:11:13pm
32 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 3:11:45pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

You need a mule and a back pack. : )

33 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2015 3:11:47pm

Some people have craziness wingnuttery on Facebook.

I have fun folks who share stuff like this:

34 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2015 3:12:40pm

re: #32 Justanotherhuman

You need a mule and a back pack. : )

yep.
I have a goat, but she’s kinda moody.

35 De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2015 3:13:32pm

From the Know Your Enemy Dept. — Hogan Lovells isn’t just a law firm. They’re also one of the most powerful lobbying firms in Washington, D.C.

36 nines09  Feb 17, 2015 3:14:15pm

“The decision by the City of Paris to bring legal proceedings against a United States news organization is antithetical to free speech”……
Sure it is. Bitch. You can lie all you want here in the Land Of The Free and Home Of The Duped, but you are now denigrating not only a city but a nation with the same fear and loathing and lies you spit and piss all the American public with and guess what? They are calling you out on it. I hope Fox loses it’s ASS. All of it. Creeps.

37 CuriousLurker  Feb 17, 2015 3:15:20pm

We can’t impose our free speech laws on a sovereign nation either.

38 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 3:16:38pm

re: #35 De Kolta Chair

From the Know Your Enemy Dept. — Hogan Lovells isn’t just a law firm. They’re also one of the most powerful lobbying firms in Washington, D.C.

They won’t try the case. They’ll have to probably hire counsel in France (and for the EU court if filed there, also) if they can’t get the venue changed, which I doubt they can do.

39 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2015 3:17:20pm

re: #37 CuriousLurker

At least France isn’t threatening to bomb us over an insult.
THAT would be “chilling”.

whoops, hope I fix that embarrassing typo in time!

40 nines09  Feb 17, 2015 3:18:09pm

re: #37 CuriousLurker

A chill on media…….

41 CuriousLurker  Feb 17, 2015 3:20:00pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

At least France isn’t threatening to bomb us over an insult.
THAT would be “chilling”.

Indeed. After this lawsuit, I’m waiting to see how long it’ll take the wingnuts to drop their “Je Suis Charlie” solidarity and return to calling the French a bunch of cheese-eating surrender monkeys.

42 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2015 3:20:21pm

re: #40 nines09

A chill on media…….

our entertainment options will be irreparably harmed!!11!!

43 b.d.  Feb 17, 2015 3:20:36pm

Has FoxNews mentioned this at all on their air?

How will their hardcore viewers that never change the channel ever find out?

44 WhatEVs  Feb 17, 2015 3:22:38pm

re: #16 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i swear to god i have never uttered a negative word about brigitte bardot

Gérard Depardeau is a totally different story.

45 Great White Snark  Feb 17, 2015 3:23:28pm

re: #37 CuriousLurker

46 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 3:24:37pm

So, there will be a lot of hurdles to overcome, but the negative publicity for Fox News might be worth it for the French, at least.

Can a city sue a TV channel?

bbc.com

47 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2015 3:25:12pm

Chuck thinks this is HILARIOUS!!11!!

48 Romantic Heretic  Feb 17, 2015 3:26:23pm

re: #11 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I guess that those cheese eating surrender monkeys have forgotten just who came to their aid when they were invaded by the Japanese in WWII.

I’m thinking that the U.S. now resembles France just before Fall Gelb. A severely divided nation where a lot of people sympathized with their enemy and didn’t exactly work hard to fight them off.

Hmmm. Story idea.

49 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 3:27:22pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

Upchuck would fuck up a wet dream.

The Munchin’s teacher just called to tell me there’s no school tomorrow. Plus, we’re supposed to get more snow. And again on Sat.

50 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 3:27:33pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s something seriously missing in Chuck’s personality. Somebody was killed in that incident.

51 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 3:27:42pm
52 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 17, 2015 3:29:31pm

A mystery is brewing on Mars: Amateur astronomers spotted enormous plumes erupting off the Red Planet’s surface, leaving scientists puzzled.

More than 155 miles (250 kilometers) high and hundreds of miles across, the baffling plumes were spotted by amateur astronomers in the spring of 2012. The plumes reflect sunlight, which means they could be made of water ice, carbon dioxide ice or dust. But clouds made of those materials would be hard to explain with current models of the Martian atmosphere, scientists say.

no it’s not the beginning of half the science fiction films you ever saw

53 A Cranky One  Feb 17, 2015 3:29:34pm

re: #49 Justanotherhuman

Did the birds like the water?

54 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2015 3:31:22pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

There’s something seriously missing in Chuck’s personality. Somebody was killed in that incident.

yep

55 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 3:31:24pm

re: #53 A Cranky One

Did the birds like the water?

Well, I did see a few walking about on the ground so I left it out, and no doubt it will be frozen in the am. I’ll change it again early in the am when they seem to feed the most.

56 Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2015 3:31:30pm

re: #37 CuriousLurker

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We can’t impose our free speech laws on a sovereign nation either.

What “better ways” does he propose?

57 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 3:33:04pm

It’s hard to believe that no one, no company or other entity has never sued FN when you read or see some of the shit they come out with.

58 Romantic Heretic  Feb 17, 2015 3:33:46pm

re: #41 CuriousLurker

Indeed. After this lawsuit, I’m waiting to see how long it’ll take the wingnuts to drop their “Je Suis Charlie” solidarity and return to calling the French a bunch of cheese-eating surrender monkeys.

In one of my vampire stories a redneck called my main character a “Fucking cheese eater.” Georges found it amusing as he hadn’t eaten any cheese in over two centuries. In my world vampires can’t eat any human food. It sits in their stomachs until it rots.

Then the redneck and his buddies tried to rape his lady friend, who he had turned a few months previously.

It didn’t end well for them.

59 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2015 3:33:51pm

POPCORN TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I don’t think we have to guess more than once who he talking about.)

60 CuriousLurker  Feb 17, 2015 3:33:57pm

re: #56 Targetpractice

What “better ways” does he propose?

He doesn’t. I wondered the same thing, but I hate trying to discuss things on Twitter so I just left it alone.

61 William of Orange  Feb 17, 2015 3:37:30pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

POPCORN TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I don’t think we have to guess more than once who he talking about.)

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No ne asked the big question:
Does ginger Charles have a soul?

62 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 3:38:40pm

UN Security Council calls emergency session to address Islamic State violence in Libya - @latimes

latimes.com

63 gocart mozart  Feb 17, 2015 3:41:45pm

The lawsuit would go nowhere under U.S. law because 1st am, shame for Fox that it’s being filed in France and France isn’t going to apply foreign law. Don’t know nothing about no French law though but good luck Paris.

64 Skip Intro  Feb 17, 2015 3:43:37pm

re: #43 b.d.

Has FoxNews mentioned this at all on their air?

Has any US media done it?

65 A Cranky One  Feb 17, 2015 3:50:35pm

re: #61 William of Orange

No ne asked the big question:
Does ginger Charles have a soul?

66 gocart mozart  Feb 17, 2015 3:53:39pm
Has any US media done it?

Washington post

67 BeachDem  Feb 17, 2015 3:57:27pm

Not wanting to take a backseat to Oklahoma and its “AP courses are of Satan” bills, Mississippi is devoting its time to IMPORTANT legislation like HB 132, nicknamed the “Jesus Take the Wheel Act”, that would exempt churches from commercial driver’s license requirements.

Current law requires CDL-certified drivers for any vehicle transporting more than 16 passengers, including the driver. The bill would amend that law to exempt church buses designed to carry 30 passengers or less.

dailykos.com

Because, hey, what could go wrong taking 30 little church-going kids to an event with a non-certified driver? This will end well

68 TedStriker  Feb 17, 2015 4:00:58pm

re: #67 BeachDem

Not wanting to take a backseat to Oklahoma and its “AP courses are of Satan” bills, Mississippi is devoting its time to IMPORTANT legislation like HB 132, nicknamed the “Jesus Take the Wheel Act”, that would exempt churches from commercial driver’s license requirements.

Current law requires CDL-certified drivers for any vehicle transporting more than 16 passengers, including the driver. The bill would amend that law to exempt church buses designed to carry 30 passengers or less.

dailykos.com

Because, hey, what could go wrong taking 30 little church-going kids to an event with a non-certified driver? This will end well

69 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 4:01:30pm

re: #67 BeachDem

i doubt any of the church bus drivers I’ve seen picking up kids around here have CDL licenses. And they seem to buy these used school buses that probably have a zillion miles on them and repaint them.

70 ObserverArt  Feb 17, 2015 4:04:14pm

Damn. Haven’t been on LGF much today. Looks like I missed some of the crazies like Keith Ablow and Pat Robertson.

How long are the FOX FOOLS going to go on and on about Obama being worse than terrorism.

Hmmm. Maybe I didn’t miss much, except the banter with the Lizards.

By the way, I contacted the Ohio Democratic Party to see if I can help out with graphics jobs. I figure they do all kinds of printed mailing pieces that I could lend a hand in preparing. I did hear back from them. I hope to keep in contact with them as they said they are rearranging their offices and management. They have a new party head, so hopefully they can get some better candidates for the next congressional/presidential big elections in 2016.

Now…to catch up a bit around here.

71 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 17, 2015 4:05:01pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

POPCORN TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I don’t think we have to guess more than once who he talking about.)

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Pierre & Glenn?

Oh please, Chucky is like a scabie on the hairy ass of Glenn.

72 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 4:06:11pm

Editor’s note: We’re keeping a close eye on news out of Oregon, as Gov. John Kitzhaber has approximately 18 hours left of executive privilege in which he could commute 1 or more of the state’s death row sentences. 2011, Kitzhaber placed a moratorium on executions. @GovKitz - Jimmy

statesmanjournal.com

73 b.d.  Feb 17, 2015 4:07:49pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chuck thinks this is HILARIOUS!!11!!

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Some random guy naming his C Store after Obama is HILARIOUS but naming every single thing you can after Ronald Reagan is respectful and not weird at all.

74 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2015 4:10:41pm

HANDS!!!

75 b.d.  Feb 17, 2015 4:15:13pm

The owner of that convenience store should have a serious and respectful name, like one ripped off from an ad campaign that promotes the drinking of cow’s milk

76 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 4:15:30pm

re: #71 The Vicious Babushka

Pierre & Glenn?

Oh please, Chucky is like a scabie on the hairy ass of Glenn.

GG’s quoting Donald Rumsfeld these days…

77 Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2015 4:17:00pm

re: #76 Justanotherhuman

GG’s quoting Donald Rumsfeld these days…

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To be fair, it’s about the only place you’ll find sections of that report anymore. I went looking online and the place it was originally posted? No longer there.

78 Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2015 4:26:17pm

Okay, that’s twice in a day I’ve killed a thread.

79 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 17, 2015 4:27:08pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

Okay, that’s twice in a day I’ve killed a thread.

INFIDEL.

80 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 4:27:13pm
81 Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2015 4:27:59pm

re: #79 klys (maker of Silmarils)

INFIDEL.

No doubt. Next I’ll like pineapple on pizza.

82 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2015 4:28:09pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

You only have to worry if your backspace is stuck….

83 BeachDem  Feb 17, 2015 4:28:59pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

HANDS!!!

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Noted!

84 Thanos  Feb 17, 2015 4:30:07pm

A bit of advice: if you must take a single jack to your hard drive wear safety goggles.

85 Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2015 4:30:30pm

Of course the wingnuts are already sounding off that people signed up to avoid the penalty. What they continue to ignore is that the penalty was their party’s idea in the first place.

86 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 17, 2015 4:30:41pm

re: #77 Targetpractice

To be fair, it’s about the only place you’ll find sections of that report anymore. I went looking online and the place it was originally posted? No longer there.

Here’s a link to the original…

RBS

87 CuriousLurker  Feb 17, 2015 4:30:51pm

re: #79 klys (maker of Silmarils)

INFIDEL THREAD JIHAD.

FTFY

88 b_sharp  Feb 17, 2015 4:31:10pm

re: #84 Thanos

A bit of advice: if you must take a single jack to your hard drive wear safety goggles.

I use a screwdriver to disassemble my drives.

89 darthstar  Feb 17, 2015 4:31:31pm

I’ve gone SSD - The NSA can look at my hard drives all they want.

90 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 17, 2015 4:31:33pm

re: #63 gocart mozart

The lawsuit would go nowhere under U.S. law because 1st am, shame for Fox that it’s being filed in France and France isn’t going to apply foreign law. Don’t know nothing about no French law though but good luck Paris.

The only difference is that US law forbids defamation claims by government entities, while French law will allow them under some circumstances.

If Faux news claimed that my farm was a terrorist infested no go zone and terror baby training camp, they would be in a world of trouble.

91 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Feb 17, 2015 4:32:26pm

Libel is not protected speech in America nor in France.

92 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 17, 2015 4:32:49pm

Um, if you want to criticize Israel that’s OK, just don’t use a nazi cartoon to make your point.

93 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 17, 2015 4:35:21pm

re: #84 Thanos

A bit of advice: if you must take a single jack to your hard drive wear safety goggles.

Great video, they weren’t aware that they had a ceramic disk when they tapped it.

…

94 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 4:36:39pm

re: #63 gocart mozart

The lawsuit would go nowhere under U.S. law because 1st am, shame for Fox that it’s being filed in France and France isn’t going to apply foreign law. Don’t know nothing about no French law though but good luck Paris.

The same people that freak out over perceived sharia law being imposed in this country, have no problem imposing its own laws on France.

Oh man can’t help but to note at the irony here.

95 Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2015 4:38:51pm

re: #86 RealityBasedSteve

Here’s a link to the original… [Embedded content]

RBS

Thank ye, I was turning over rocks and looking behind bushes for at least an hour earlier trying to find the original.

96 BeachDem  Feb 17, 2015 4:38:57pm

Well, as long as he’s “deeply sorry.”

Mississippi state Rep. Gene Alday (R) publicly apologized on Tuesday for lamenting that he came from a place where “all blacks are getting food stamps” for not working.

Of course, FIRST Alday complained to the newspaper that the interview portrayed him in an unflattering manner.

talkingpointsmemo.com

But at least he didn’t say it was satire, so there’s that. (That’s two for Mississippi in just a few minutes—this one and the “Jesus Take the Wheel” bill—come on South Carolina, you’re lagging!

97 Thanos  Feb 17, 2015 4:39:50pm

re: #93 RealityBasedSteve

This is why you don’t unscrew the case…

98 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 17, 2015 4:41:22pm

re: #96 BeachDem

Well, as long as he’s “deeply sorry.”

Mississippi state Rep. Gene Alday (R) publicly apologized on Tuesday for lamenting that he came from a place where “all blacks are getting food stamps” for not working.

Of course, FIRST Alday complained to the newspaper that the interview portrayed him in an unflattering manner.

talkingpointsmemo.com

But at least he didn’t say it was satire, so there’s that. (That’s two for Mississippi in just a few minutes—this one and the “Jesus Take the Wheel” bill—come on South Carolina, you’re lagging!

What is the “Jesus take the wheel” bill?

99 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 17, 2015 4:42:04pm

re: #94 electrotek

The same people that freak out over perceived sharia law being imposed in this country, have no problem imposing its own laws on France.

Oh man can’t help but to note at the irony here.

over at fox they need to take irony supplements

100 BeachDem  Feb 17, 2015 4:43:54pm

re: #98 The Vicious Babushka

What is the “Jesus take the wheel” bill?

littlegreenfootballs.com

101 b_sharp  Feb 17, 2015 4:43:55pm

re: #89 darthstar

I’ve gone SSD - The NSA can look at my hard drives all they want.

You have 2 TB worth of SSDs?

Kool.

102 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 4:44:30pm

I always thought Noam Chomsky was a kook but I had no idea he was a pro-Serb apologist during the 90s:

It’s not just the Islamophobic right that believes in genocide denial when it comes to Bosnia. The far-left is just as guilty.

103 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 4:44:43pm
104 CuriousLurker  Feb 17, 2015 4:45:39pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

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That nonsense about needing to destroy your hard drive was one of the first things I saw when I got online this morning, immediately followed by CNN clutching its pearls and asking “Is ‘march on Rome’ possible for ISIS?” which was in turn followed by a Google Alert about an article at The Blaze giving a H/T to GoV for an article on the dangers of Islam.

I kinda whimpered and had to fiercely resist the urge to just draw the shades, crawl back under the covers, and curl up into a fetal position to see if maybe I could sleep through the entire day, then get up and try again tomorrow.

105 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 17, 2015 4:45:42pm

for lent your catholic dogs must be given eschew toys

106 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 4:45:55pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

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Is he speaking of himself?

107 Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2015 4:49:16pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

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We already know about the love that dare not speak its name between Trump and his hair.

108 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 4:49:30pm

re: #98 The Vicious Babushka

What is the “Jesus take the wheel” bill?

dailymotion.com

109 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 4:50:38pm

re: #104 CuriousLurker

That nonsense about needing to destroy your hard drive was one of the first things I saw when I got online this morning, immediately followed by CNN clutching its pearls and asking “Is ‘march on Rome’ possible for ISIS?” which was in turn followed by a Google Alert about an article at The Blaze giving a H/T to GoV for an article on the dangers of Islam.

I kinda whimpered and had to fiercely resist the urge to just draw the shades, crawl back under the covers, and curl up into a fetal position to see if maybe I could sleep through the entire day, then get up and try again tomorrow.

I’m pretty sure once the wingnuts give birth to numerous Anders Breivik’s and God forbid an Utoya is repeated here, that will change things for the conservative right. The 20th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing is in a couple of months, so it’s only a matter of time before another wingnut act of terror is made here.

110 lawhawk  Feb 17, 2015 4:50:49pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Is he:
1) Outing himself?
2) Outing Ann Coulter?
3) Outing Rush?
4) Outing Hannity?
5) Outing Sens. Rubio? Paul?

Or, is he likely just making stuff up and all that sound and fury driving people to his site going to be disappointed when he runs with warmed over BS.

I’m going to go with the latter.

111 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 4:52:43pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

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His posts are nothing but comedy. He’s definitely the definition of a village idiot.

112 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 17, 2015 4:53:56pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

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It’s a trap…. He’ll gain support, and then flip it, say it’s a liberal, and wonder why his support had dropped. Too transparent.

RBS

113 BeachDem  Feb 17, 2015 4:57:46pm

I think she has a good point:

Could we please not forgive Sarah Palin? She is an unrepentant nightmare

Fey’s Palin impression was a big hit for the show back in 2008, got marvellous ratings, and will long be remembered as a seminal SNL moment - but not, as one might think, because Sarah Palin was some wacky, harmless goofball destined to be a delightful footnote in the annals of election history. No. Nope.

No. People loved those Tina Fey/Sarah Palin sketches because Sarah Palin is a terrifying, anti-intellectual, anti-choice, gun-toting ideologue who came within a hair’s breadth of one of the most powerful political offices in the world, a dystopian potentiality that could have tangibly affected the lives of literally billions of people…

In short: Fey’s Palin impression wasn’t important because Palin is trivial and amusing. It was important because Palin is anything but. And we need to remember that.

So please. Everyone. I am begging you. Do not participate in or encourage the aw-shucks redemption of Sarah Palin - or any other unrepentant nightmare person, for that matter. She does not deserve it. She is the same person she was in 2008 (though seemingly even more desperate and eager to pander) and she is still actively trying to make the world worse.

rawstory.com

114 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 17, 2015 4:58:07pm

re: #97 Thanos

This is why you don’t unscrew the case…

Hard drive magnets make great fridge magnets, but be careful, I found out they can really pinch hard if you get your fingers between them…

RBS

115 b.d.  Feb 17, 2015 4:58:09pm

re: #110 lawhawk

Is he:
1) Outing himself?
2) Outing Ann Coulter?
3) Outing Rush?
4) Outing Hannity?
5) Outing Sens. Rubio? Paul?

Or, is he likely just making stuff up and all that sound and fury driving people to his site going to be disappointed when he runs with warmed over BS.

I’m going to go with the latter.

re: #103 Charles Johnson

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All of them, best 99¢ news tip fee I ever spent.

116 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 4:59:48pm

Copenhagen police confirm identity of attacks gunman

france24.com

COPENHAGEN (AFP) -
Copenhagen police late Tuesday confirmed the identity of the suspected gunman behind the weekend’s double shooting as 22-year-old Omar El-Hussein.

“Police also said that in his first attack, on Saturday, he had unsuccessfully tried to use several entrances to a cultural centre that was hosting a debate on Islam and free speech attended by controversial Swedish cartoonist Lars Vilks.

(snip)

“El-Hussein, a Danish-born man of Palestinian origin, was killed in a shootout with police early Sunday after opening fire at the cultural centre, killing a filmmaker, after which he shot dead a Jewish man outside a synagogue.” More

117 A Cranky One  Feb 17, 2015 5:00:43pm

re: #112 RealityBasedSteve

It’s a trap…. He’ll gain support, and then flip it, say it’s a liberal, and wonder why his support had dropped. Too transparent.

RBS

You could be right. Probably recycled stuff about Bill Clinton.

Unless Bill O’Reilly invited Upchuck to a loofah party.////

118 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 5:03:13pm

This guy/girl is a real piece of work:

119 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 5:04:37pm
120 b_sharp  Feb 17, 2015 5:11:23pm

re: #114 RealityBasedSteve

Hard drive magnets make great fridge magnets, but be careful, I found out they can really pinch hard if you get your fingers between them…

RBS

I use them to hang tools on the wall.

121 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 17, 2015 5:13:12pm

re: #58 Romantic Heretic

In one of my vampire stories a redneck called my main character a “Fucking cheese eater.” Georges found it amusing as he hadn’t eaten any cheese in over two centuries. In my world vampires can’t eat any human food. It sits in their stomachs until it rots.

Then the redneck and his buddies tried to rape his lady friend, who he had turned a few months previously.

It didn’t end well for them.

Yeah, rednecks haven’t really put up a good fight since the Battle of Palmito Ranch in 1865. This is generally regarded as the last battle of the Civil War and was fought in Texas nearly a month after Appomattox Courthouse. It involved a Confederate force repelling a rather ill-advised attempt by Union Colonel Theodore H. Barrett to capture their camp. There is some speculation that Barrett had ordered the attack just because he saw it as his last chance to see real combat.
There had been a lot of firebrand rhetoric in Texas after Appomattox urging Confederate soldiers to “fight on boys,” to the general derision of the bedragged soldiers. The latter were mostly just waiting for Union troops to show up with food and rail passes home before surrendering.

122 CuriousLurker  Feb 17, 2015 5:14:04pm

re: #118 electrotek

This guy/girl is a real piece of work:

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BNI is one of the most virulent anti-Muslim hate blogs out there—so bad that they were even kicked off of WordPress (see this LGF article). The hypocrisy of them whining about any form of bigotry is laughable.

123 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 5:19:00pm

re: #122 CuriousLurker

BNI is one of the most virulent anti-Muslim hate blogs out there—so bad that they were even kicked off of WordPress (see this LGF article). The hypocrisy of them whining about any form of bigotry is laughable.

Oh, that’s funny. The Muslim Brotherhood runs WordPress now? {sigh}

Geller & Co are such a bunch of hate-filled idiots.

124 sagehen  Feb 17, 2015 5:22:46pm

OT:

Some new TV shows that I haven’t watched, but I’m wondering if maybe I should.

Backstrom
Allegiance
The Slap

Anybody seen any of them, can you tell me if it’s worth my time?

125 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 5:24:43pm

re: #123 Justanotherhuman

Oh, that’s funny. The Muslim Brotherhood runs WordPress now? {sigh}

Geller & Co are such a bunch of hate-filled idiots.

Does she have ANY support among millenials? Every “rally” she organizes is always full of a far older demographic.

126 CuriousLurker  Feb 17, 2015 5:24:59pm

re: #123 Justanotherhuman

Oh, that’s funny. The Muslim Brotherhood runs WordPress now? {sigh}

Geller & Co are such a bunch of hate-filled idiots.

Yeah, their hatred has basically driven them insane. This is what we’re up against and it never, ever, stops—it’s 24/7.

127 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 5:27:32pm

re: #126 CuriousLurker

Yeah, their hatred has basically driven them insane. This is what we’re up against and it never, ever, stops—it’s 24/7.

I could not look at myself in the mirror if I acted that way. : (

128 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 5:28:59pm

re: #126 CuriousLurker

Yeah, their hatred has basically driven them insane. This is what we’re up against and it never, ever, stops—it’s 24/7.

She is scared of Russell Brand. Can we get him over to Texas to confront her? Rememeber when she was a guest on his FX show, she was too scared to admit her true feelings LOL

129 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 17, 2015 5:29:19pm

Wingnuts are still having ragegasms over Marie Harf, who totally DID NOT SAY that all ISIS needs is a jobs program.

130 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 17, 2015 5:33:19pm

re: #124 sagehen

From the first episode, Backstrom is trying for “misanthropic detective solves crimes with deep insight into human nature.” It actually plays as ” absolutely horrible dude draws stupid, rude conclusions, and then the plot lurches to make them come true.”

It really doesn’t help that everyone else is playing a light comedy character, and Rainn Wilson is just kind of this acerbic boggart roaming amidst them being sexist and racist. Tonally dissonant.

131 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 17, 2015 5:33:30pm

Its official. Fresh Off The Boat is the best show currently on TV.

132 Mentis Fugit  Feb 17, 2015 5:34:17pm

A little motto I encountered in my Usenet days applies to this story.

“On the Internet, the First Amendment is a local ordinance.”

133 jaunte  Feb 17, 2015 5:34:23pm

re: #129 The Vicious Babushka

134 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 5:34:34pm

re: #129 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are still having ragegasms over Marie Harf, who totally DID NOT SAY that all ISIS needs is a jobs program.

They got nothing. So they make shit up.

Par for their course.

135 CuriousLurker  Feb 17, 2015 5:36:19pm

re: #128 electrotek

She is scared of Russell Brand. Can we get him over to Texas to confront her? Rememeber when she was a guest on his FX show, she was too scared to admit her true feelings LOL

I stopped watching TV about 2 years ago, and even before then I didn’t watch it much, so I don’t know about that show. I know who Russel Brand is, or rather I know his face from seeing it on the internet, but that’s about it.

In the interests of mental health, I’m extremely selective about what I allow into my head nowadays, so I mostly stick to Amazon Prime, Netflix, iTunes, and whatever regular TV channels I can watch from my iPad.

136 CuriousLurker  Feb 17, 2015 5:37:32pm

re: #129 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are still having ragegasms over Marie Harf, who totally DID NOT SAY that all ISIS needs is a jobs program.

lolwut?

No, never mind, I don’t even want to know.

137 CuriousLurker  Feb 17, 2015 5:38:34pm

re: #133 jaunte

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Is that what VB is referring to??

138 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 5:39:06pm

Look out, Chuck’s BREAKING some huge news again.

139 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 17, 2015 5:40:02pm

re: #136 CuriousLurker

lolwut?

No, never mind, I don’t even want to know.

Remember the ragegasm that the wingnuts had over FLOTUS holding up a sign with a hashtag #BringBackOurGirls who were kidnapped by Boko Haram? And the wingnuts really thought she was saying a hashtag IS ALL ANYBODY SHOULD DO EVER.

Well they are having that same ragegasm all over again, times eleventy.

140 Romantic Heretic  Feb 17, 2015 5:40:39pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

Old German Man: I do not kneel to men like you.

Loki, with his usual smirk: There are no men like me.

Old German Man: There are always men like you.

Favorite scene of that movie after Hulk beating Loki with the floor.

141 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 17, 2015 5:41:07pm

re: #137 CuriousLurker

Is that what VB is referring to??

State Dept. Spokesperson Marie Harf: We Can’t Kill Every Last One Of Them.

142 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 17, 2015 5:41:55pm

re: #139 The Vicious Babushka

Remember the ragegasm that the wingnuts had over FLOTUS holding up a sign with a hashtag #BringBackOurGirls who were kidnapped by Boko Haram? And the wingnuts really thought she was saying a hashtag IS ALL ANYBODY SHOULD DO EVER.

Well they are having that same ragegasm all over again, times eleventy.

Well, they also didn’t take the time to find out the context of that hashtag, which was created by parents of those lost girls to try and shame the Nigerian government into action.

Because the external world only exists when it can be used to validate their worldview.

143 CuriousLurker  Feb 17, 2015 5:42:59pm

re: #141 The Vicious Babushka

State Dept. Spokesperson Marie Harf: We Can’t Kill Every Last One Of Them.

I…. *throws hand in air*

144 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 5:44:53pm

re: #135 CuriousLurker

I stopped watching TV about 2 years ago, and even before then I didn’t watch it much, so I don’t know about that show. I know who Russel Brand is, or rather I know his face from seeing it on the internet, but that’s about it.

In the interests of mental health, I’m extremely selective about what I allow into my head nowadays, so I mostly stick to Amazon Prime, Netflix, iTunes, and whatever regular TV channels I can watch from my iPad.

Here ya go:

The odd, weird, curious thing about Pamela’s Islamophobia, though, is that while she’ll own it in front of a bunch of flag-waving Tea Partiers protesting a mosque, she’ll back away from it in front of a crowd of young Hollywood liberals. Indeed, the way she spoke during her appearance on BrandX, you’d almost think she didn’t want to turn the Middle East to glass.

Source

Too bad the video is no longer around, it was a classic moment of her getting put in her place.

145 jaunte  Feb 17, 2015 5:46:31pm

re: #141 The Vicious Babushka

Commenters in full blown panic mode:

Because controlling some scattered loops of western Iraq and eastern Syria is just like being the most powerful military in 1938 Europe.

146 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 5:48:14pm

CuriousLurker, found the video

Holy shit this is pure ownage on a Biblical level here haha

147 Jenner7  Feb 17, 2015 5:50:01pm

re: #85 Targetpractice

According to Rush Limbaugh this morning, 7 million have LOST insurance and states that took on Obamacare, are bankrupt or going bankrupt.

“Everybody knows it”….sez Rush.

148 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 17, 2015 5:50:01pm

re: #145 jaunte

Commenters in full blown panic mode:

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Because controlling some scattered loops of western Iraq and eastern Syria is just like being the most powerful military in 1938 Europe.

Ya know, maybe if GWB didn’t make crap up about WMD just in order to invade Iraq and go in and fuck their shit up, maybe that would have kept a lid on it?

Just sayin’

149 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 5:50:40pm

re: #141 The Vicious Babushka

State Dept. Spokesperson Marie Harf: We Can’t Kill Every Last One Of Them.

Chuck Johnson just figured out this is a right wing thing, and he’s jumping on the bandwagon now.

150 jaunte  Feb 17, 2015 5:50:43pm

re: #148 The Vicious Babushka

The thing about chaos is, anything can happen.

151 #FergusonFireside  Feb 17, 2015 5:52:32pm

Did any of you catch this today? Senator from NC shows up to work on a snow day. Is alone. Starts tweeting (storify attached) But some examples to get you to open the storify:

Epic. Read the whole thing.

152 Justanotherhuman  Feb 17, 2015 5:54:10pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm… : )

153 CuriousLurker  Feb 17, 2015 5:54:17pm

re: #144 electrotek

Here ya go:

Source

Too bad the video is no longer around, it was a classic moment of her getting put in her place.

re: #146 electrotek

CuriousLurker, found the video

Holy shit this is pure ownage on a Biblical level here haha

Thanks, heh.

154 wrenchwench  Feb 17, 2015 5:55:44pm
155 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 5:57:13pm

re: #153 CuriousLurker

Thanks, heh.

Notice how she got defensive when her entire audience was hostile to her? Such a BRAVE woman she is hahaha

156 Romantic Heretic  Feb 17, 2015 5:59:11pm

re: #147 Jenner7

According to Rush Limbaugh this morning, 7 million have LOST insurance and states that took on Obamacare, are bankrupt or going bankrupt.

“Everybody knows it”….sez Rush.

Just like everybody knew blacks are inferior to whites and Jews control the world through the Illuminati.

It’s just common sense!

157 Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 17, 2015 6:02:30pm

re: #67 BeachDem

Not wanting to take a backseat to Oklahoma and its “AP courses are of Satan” bills, Mississippi is devoting its time to IMPORTANT legislation like HB 132, nicknamed the “Jesus Take the Wheel Act”, that would exempt churches from commercial driver’s license requirements.

Current law requires CDL-certified drivers for any vehicle transporting more than 16 passengers, including the driver. The bill would amend that law to exempt church buses designed to carry 30 passengers or less.

dailykos.com

Because, hey, what could go wrong taking 30 little church-going kids to an event with a non-certified driver? This will end well

Considering how their god likes killing kids - it’s kind of his thing - and judging by how many horrific “it’s such a tragedy!” high-body-count church bus accidents I’ve seen on the news just here in DFW in the last few years, I’d say that’s pretty much asking for mass casualties.

158 CuriousLurker  Feb 17, 2015 6:02:50pm

re: #155 electrotek

Notice how she got defensive when her entire audience was hostile to her? Such a BRAVE woman she is hahaha

It’s classic bully behavior—they’re only brave when they have you outnumbered. There was this group of girls in high school that used to try to bully me on the bus (isn’t there always?) but my mom had told me years before that the way to deal with that was to catch each one alone. I did. It worked like a charm. From then on they either studiously ignored me or were at least civil.

159 ObserverArt  Feb 17, 2015 6:03:01pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Look out, Chuck’s BREAKING some huge news again.

Oh no!

Chuck’s breaking wind again.

Everyone get the masks on and duck and cover. He’s gonna blow!

(Because he always blows)

160 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 17, 2015 6:04:17pm

re: #102 electrotek

I always thought Noam Chomsky was a kook but I had no idea he was a pro-Serb apologist during the 90s:

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It’s not just the Islamophobic right that believes in genocide denial when it comes to Bosnia. The far-left is just as guilty.

I have hated, hated, hated Noam Chomsky for over 50 years, when I started learning anything about linguistics, for his absolute destruction of the entire field. I was probably the last person on earth to earn that he had any political opinions, but even if I agreed with them it wouldn’t make any difference.

Goddamn! When am I going to stop hitting blockquote instead of italic? Or at least use preview?

161 CuriousLurker  Feb 17, 2015 6:06:09pm

re: #159 ObserverArt

Oh no!

Chuck’s breaking wind again.

Everyone get the masks on and duck and cover. He’s gonna blow!

(Because he always blows)

LOL, believe it or not, that was also my first thought. Now I know it’s time for me to go read a book or something.

Later, lizards.

162 wrenchwench  Feb 17, 2015 6:08:52pm

re: #160 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I have hated, hated, hated Noam Chomsky for over 50 years, when I started learning anything about linguistics, for his absolute destruction of the entire field. I was probably the last person on earth to earn that he

any political opinions, but even if I agreed with them it wouldn’t make any difference.

I had a friend who called him ‘Norm Chomsky’. Cracked me up.

163 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 17, 2015 6:14:16pm

re: #162 wrenchwench

I had a friend who called him ‘Norm Chomsky’. Cracked me up.

well there’s also the famous nim chimpsky q.v.

164 BeachDem  Feb 17, 2015 6:15:52pm

re: #151 #FergusonFireside

Did any of you catch this today? Senator from NC shows up to work on a snow day. Is alone. Starts tweeting (storify attached) But some examples to get you to open the storify:

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That was fantastic. Sending it to all my political friends. Thanks.

165 wrenchwench  Feb 17, 2015 6:16:16pm

Kitteh.

166 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 6:17:37pm

re: #165 wrenchwench

Hungry kitteh will not be denied.

167 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 6:18:30pm
168 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 6:19:35pm

/facepalm galore

169 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 17, 2015 6:23:23pm

re: #165 wrenchwench

Kitteh.

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I believe that the kitty may have been assisted in it’s dramatic arrival. If you watch very closely, there is a hand that appears at the bottom left of the opening after the kitty bursts through. If so, and I were those people, I’d make sure to keep the bedroom door closed for at least a week.

RBS

170 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 6:23:24pm

Oh dear God, I should have seen this coming:

Richard Anderson: That is categorically false. And it’s a great irony to have the UAE from the Arabian Peninsula talk about that, given the fact that our industry was really shocked by the terrorism of 9/11, which came from terrorists from the Arabian Peninsula. That caused us to go through a massive restructuring. And in the United States our restructuring process is transparent and there is no government subsidy. And in fact there were billions of dollars of equity and unsecured debt that were wiped out through that process.

Fifteen of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were citizens of Saudi Arabia. Saudia, the state airline of Saudi Arabia, does not compete at the same level as Etihad, Emirates, or Qatar Airways. Etihad Airways was founded in 2003.

American-based airline companies will do anything to deflect from their horrible customer service which is costing them big time. Who in their right mind would want to fly a US-based airline when international airlines offer superior service?

171 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 6:25:05pm
172 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 6:25:28pm
173 wrenchwench  Feb 17, 2015 6:25:54pm

re: #169 RealityBasedSteve

I believe that the kitty may have been assisted in it’s dramatic arrival. If you watch very closely, there is a hand that appears at the bottom left of the opening after the kitty bursts through. If so, and I were those people, I’d make sure to keep the bedroom door closed for at least a week.

RBS

Kitteh had help!

174 ObserverArt  Feb 17, 2015 6:26:03pm

Where is evera’ body? Frozen?

175 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 6:26:56pm

re: #173 wrenchwench

Kitteh had help!

All kittehs need help.

176 wrenchwench  Feb 17, 2015 6:27:57pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

All kittehs need help.

Until they develop thumbs…

177 BeachDem  Feb 17, 2015 6:29:32pm

So who’s buying all the new followers for upchuck. I swear, he’s added about 7-800 since yesterday, 100 of them within the past few hours.

FESS UP!!

178 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 17, 2015 6:31:54pm

re: #176 wrenchwench

Until they develop thumbs…

Pandas had thumbs, then lost them, then developed them again from a wrist bone. Cats need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps! M00CHERZ!!

179 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 6:35:38pm

re: #177 BeachDem

So who’s buying all the new followers for upchuck. I swear, he’s added about 7-800 since yesterday, 100 of them within the past few hours.

FESS UP!!

It looks like he’s getting a bunch of fake followers again. Eggs everywhere.

180 wrenchwench  Feb 17, 2015 6:35:46pm

This link worked better for me.

181 Kragar  Feb 17, 2015 6:42:30pm
182 #FergusonFireside  Feb 17, 2015 6:42:34pm

re: #180 wrenchwench

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This link worked better for me.

So damn cute.

183 BeachDem  Feb 17, 2015 6:42:47pm

re: #179 Charles Johnson

It looks like he’s getting a bunch of fake followers again. Eggs everywhere.

He’ll be blaming you for it any minute now. I still don’t understand that logic—why would anyone want to buy fake followers for somebody else?

Ah, the Twitterverse is a step beyond for me, I’m afraid.

184 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 6:43:19pm

re: #181 Kragar

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I’m not racist, I have black friends…

185 #FergusonFireside  Feb 17, 2015 6:43:31pm

re: #181 Kragar

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There is a new generation, just as bad as the past. Holy shit.

186 ObserverArt  Feb 17, 2015 6:44:47pm

re: #183 BeachDem

He’ll be blaming you for it any minute now. I still don’t understand that logic—why would anyone want to buy fake followers for somebody else?

Ah, the Twitterverse is a step beyond for me, I’m afraid.

Fake followers for all the fake breaking news.

187 ObserverArt  Feb 17, 2015 6:47:11pm

re: #181 Kragar

Kragar @Kragar_LGF

Texas students flash ‘White Power’ signs during basketball game against mostly-black high school rawstory.com …

Who would have guessed…Texas.

188 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 6:47:28pm

re: #185 #FergusonFireside

There is a new generation, just as bad as the past. Holy shit.

Flower Mound, it shouldn’t be surprising to anyone. After all, this is the same suburb where its mayor declared 2014 to be the Year of the Bible

189 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 6:51:03pm

I smell a scam. Pretend an unknown person is paying for fake followers, and make a big public deal out of being upset about it. Then, when nobody’s paying attention any more, a lot of fake followers suddenly appear.

190 teleskiguy  Feb 17, 2015 6:51:42pm

re: #183 BeachDem

Ah, the Twitterverse is a step beyond for me, I’m afraid.

Nice thing about Twitter is your timeline can be curated to keep the nutters out. klys (@sylk) is a good example.

And, I think it’s wicked funny on the daily.

191 Kragar  Feb 17, 2015 6:54:26pm

re: #189 Charles Johnson

Twitteraudit says about 12% of his accounts register as fake, but its a few months old.

Charles C. Johnson
@ChuckCJohnson
16,346 Real
2,208 Fake

192 ipsos  Feb 17, 2015 6:57:09pm

re: #173 wrenchwench

Kitteh had help!

LOOK AT THE HANDS PEOPLE!!!

LOOK AT THE HANDS!!!

193 ObserverArt  Feb 17, 2015 7:07:08pm

Time to slink off…take care everyone and stay warm east coasters.

EDIT…Hell…stay warm everyone east of the Mississippi.

194 teleskiguy  Feb 17, 2015 7:10:50pm

The Twitter addicts’ creed:

195 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 7:14:04pm
196 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 17, 2015 7:17:56pm
197 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 7:18:36pm
198 Great White Snark  Feb 17, 2015 7:18:48pm

re: #161 CuriousLurker

LOL, believe it or not, that was also my first thought. Now I know it’s time for me to go read a book or something.

Later, lizards.

199 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 17, 2015 7:20:06pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

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Yep.

200 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 17, 2015 7:21:25pm

They get very pissed when you interrupt their frenzied ragememes with facts n shit.

201 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 17, 2015 7:22:00pm

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

They get very pissed when you interrupt their frenzied ragememes with facts n shit.

Ragememe Interruptus

RBS

202 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 17, 2015 7:22:30pm
203 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 17, 2015 7:23:44pm

Listening to Philadelphia residents bitching because their sidestreets weren’t plowed. We got 3.7 inches. I don’t think you can even plow 3.7 inches of snow.

204 Kragar  Feb 17, 2015 7:24:07pm

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

His avatar is the bad guy from Tombstone

205 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 17, 2015 7:25:06pm

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

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Heaven forbid that statements are made that imply that the ISIS foot soldiers might be human beings and would potentially not be where they are if their environment and opportunities were different.

206 Great White Snark  Feb 17, 2015 7:25:26pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

207 A Cranky One  Feb 17, 2015 7:26:23pm

My first feeble attempt at a page.

The Lizard of Oz

208 #FergusonFireside  Feb 17, 2015 7:29:03pm

All I can say is, I love. Better Call Saul.

209 Kragar  Feb 17, 2015 7:30:22pm
210 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 7:30:59pm
211 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 17, 2015 7:33:20pm

re: #209 Kragar

Actually, he doesn’t tell them to “get a job”, unless it’s farther down the timeline. Nitwit just doesn’t think jobs are the answer. Mass murder is.

212 Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2015 7:34:42pm

Over 13 years later and we’ve still decided that the best way to combat terrorism is to blow the shit out of other countries and then expect the locals to be grateful that we allow them to live in the rubble we leave behind.

213 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 17, 2015 7:35:06pm

Lots of people tried to “kill ‘em all, let God sort them out” Nobody ever succeeded. Once you abandon your own humanity, you’ve changed sides.

214 Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2015 7:36:00pm

@marieharf just followed me.

215 Kragar  Feb 17, 2015 7:36:35pm

re: #211 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Actually, he doesn’t tell them to “get a job”, unless it’s farther down the timeline. Nitwit just doesn’t think jobs are the answer. Mass murder is.

I was referring to his claiming he wasn’t a RWNJ

216 jaunte  Feb 17, 2015 7:37:01pm

“Who needs a functioning civil society?”
—General Douglas MacArthur

217 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 17, 2015 7:37:31pm

re: #215 Kragar

Ohhh that’s different. Nevermind.

218 jaunte  Feb 17, 2015 7:37:40pm

Fake quotes from Human History

219 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 17, 2015 7:38:23pm

re: #216 jaunte

“Who needs a functioning civil society?”
—General Douglas MacArthur

Of all the fake quotes, that one’s a doozy.

220 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 17, 2015 7:39:24pm

Was MacArthur even that great a general?

221 wrenchwench  Feb 17, 2015 7:40:43pm
222 teleskiguy  Feb 17, 2015 7:41:30pm

re: #218 jaunte

Fake quotes from Human History

223 jaunte  Feb 17, 2015 7:43:54pm

“Jobs for Isis”

“…The groundwork for the Allied occupation of a defeated Japan was laid during the war. In a series of wartime conferences, the leaders of the Allied powers of Great Britain, the Soviet Union, the Republic of China, and the United States discussed how to disarm Japan, deal with its colonies (especially Korea and Taiwan), stabilize the Japanese economy, and prevent the remilitarization of the state in the future.”
history.state.gov

224 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 17, 2015 7:44:32pm

re: #221 wrenchwench

(I think they’re actually flies)

225 A Cranky One  Feb 17, 2015 7:44:48pm

re: #176 wrenchwench

Until they develop thumbs…

I used to annoy novice Unix/Linux users by telling them to display a file called “food in cans”. So they would enter cat “food in cans”.

Gives an error message: cat: cannot open food in cans

Geeks are sick puppies ;)

226 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 17, 2015 7:45:02pm

re: #223 jaunte

HOW DARE YOU!!

227 Romantic Heretic  Feb 17, 2015 7:47:00pm

re: #204 Kragar

His Twitter handle is also one of the less successful tank destroyers of WWII.

228 TedStriker  Feb 17, 2015 7:47:48pm

re: #201 RealityBasedSteve

Ragememe Interruptus

RBS

One of the RWNJ equivalents to “blue balls.”

229 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 7:47:58pm

Does anyone remember the time during the Park51 hysteria, or the lead up to it, where 2 Coptic Christians that were present with their bigoted protestors suddenly turned against them because they spoke Arabic?

These wingnuts express false solidarity with Copts right now wouldn’t hesitate to turn against them for 1) not being white and 2) not following the correct version of Christianity according to them.

230 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 7:49:40pm

Talk about missing the point, silly Texan keyboard Crusader:

231 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 17, 2015 7:50:59pm

I love how Japan’s entire postwar history is a huge joke on MacArthur. He thought he was crippling Japan going forward by imposing a Social Democratic government and economic system on them, contrary to everything he believed in.

232 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 17, 2015 7:53:01pm

re: #231 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I love how Japan’s entire postwar history is a huge joke on MacArthur. He thought he was crippling Japan going forward by imposing a Social Democratic government and economic system on them, contrary to everything he believed in.

MacArthur was an incompetent ass on his best days. What he caused in the PI should have gotten him a cell in Ft Leavenworth for the rest of his life.

233 TedStriker  Feb 17, 2015 7:53:52pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

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234 #FergusonFireside  Feb 17, 2015 7:54:02pm

re: #230 electrotek

Grumpy should sue.

235 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 17, 2015 7:54:43pm

re: #232 William Barnett-Lewis

MacArthur was an incompetent ass on his best days. What he caused in the PI should have gotten him a cell in Ft Leavenworth for the rest of his life.

Oh, no argument there. Most people seem to believe he won the Pacific War singlehanded. “Chester who?”

236 wrenchwench  Feb 17, 2015 7:54:50pm
237 retired cynic  Feb 17, 2015 7:57:23pm

re: #235 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Oh, no argument there. Most people seem to believe he won the Pacific War singlehanded. “Chester who?”

You should hear my husband on the subject of MacArthur in war. Hubs was in the Navy in the Korean War.

238 A Cranky One  Feb 17, 2015 7:59:56pm

Hey Charles, thanks for the promotion!

239 Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 17, 2015 8:02:18pm

I’ve been thinking about the economic side of ISIS since reading - or trying to read** - Graeme Wood’s article on ISIS at The Atlantic.

What the hell does this “caliphate” do for work? What’s the economic plan for their little Nickel-Pisspot Kingdom of Blood? Do they tax the people who haven’t been murdered yet? What happens when trade dries up? Drugs, oil, and guns?

Man, Bush 43 didn’t just fuck the country, he fucked the entire future. Nobody liked Saddam, but look what’s happened since his little adventure tore the lid off the place.

** The writing isn’t bad. The subject matter itself is so sickening that I couldn’t stomach reading the whole article.

240 Gus  Feb 17, 2015 8:03:33pm

This exists.

241 #FergusonFireside  Feb 17, 2015 8:04:32pm

re: #240 Gus

This exists.

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Black man no wear.

242 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 17, 2015 8:04:42pm

Looks like ISIS is making a push on Irbil. That’s going to suck when they overrun it. :-/

None of this would be happening if we didn’t stir up all this shit with OIF.

243 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 8:04:50pm

re: #240 Gus

This exists.

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Easy way to get knocked out unconsciousness by someone in the know, it looks like.

244 jaunte  Feb 17, 2015 8:05:44pm

re: #239 Pawn of the Oppressor

This bit:

“…It’s hard to overstate how hamstrung the Islamic State will be by its radicalism. The modern international system, born of the 1648 Peace of Westphalia, relies on each state’s willingness to recognize borders, however grudgingly. For the Islamic State, that recognition is ideological suicide.”

I don’t see much future for them.

245 sagehen  Feb 17, 2015 8:06:09pm

re: #242 GlutenFreeJesus

Looks like ISIS is making a push on Irbil. That’s going to suck when they overrun it. :-/

None of this would be happening if we didn’t stir up all this shit with OIF.

not to mention, de-Baathification meant all Saddam’s best generals are now leading the anti-Iraq forces instead of helping rebuild the place.

246 electrotek  Feb 17, 2015 8:08:15pm

re: #244 jaunte

This bit:

I don’t see much future for them.

Not to mention the alienation of its subjects will be too much for them to bear when they rise up against their oppressors.

God I just want Iran to launch a full-scale ground troop invasion and let them take care of Da’esh for once. I don’t want US troops to be involved, this should be done by the regional powers there.

247 #FergusonFireside  Feb 17, 2015 8:12:09pm

re: #246 electrotek

This is when I hope so hard for behind the scenes planning that never sees the light of the American media.

248 #FergusonFireside  Feb 17, 2015 8:21:06pm

Oh boy another Better Call Saul. Thought I was just one behind. No.

Up late tonight.

249 jaunte  Feb 17, 2015 8:26:34pm
250 Gus  Feb 17, 2015 8:28:02pm

What’s the term for old school open phone lines?

251 jaunte  Feb 17, 2015 8:28:17pm

re: #250 Gus

Party lines?

252 Gus  Feb 17, 2015 8:28:42pm

re: #251 jaunte

Party lines?

That’s it. Gracias.

253 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 17, 2015 8:31:33pm

re: #245 sagehen

Yup. What a shit show. Bush and his advisors should all be on trial for war crimes. Call it extreme but what they did has screwed up the world for a lot of people.

254 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 17, 2015 8:36:13pm

I argued at the time (I didn’t become a lizard until around 2010ish) that Iraqi Freedom would be the biggest foreign policy blunder since Barbarossa. You can only imagine the reaction that got.

255 Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 17, 2015 8:40:21pm

If there’s such a thing as a lighter take on ISIS… I’m not sure how I feel about this. I still laughed, but reluctantly. :P

ISIS Bloopers

256 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 17, 2015 8:40:37pm

re: #247 #FergusonFireside

This is when I hope so hard for behind the scenes planning that never sees the light of the American media.

We have enormous intelligence and surveillance assets—more than even congress realizes. We have sources in theater that speak the language and are really pissed off at these guys. They’ve demonstrated that they aren’t exactly military geniuses….

I wonder if a lot of the foot-dragging over Obama’s AUMF isn’t that the GOP leadership has a vague sense that the administration has a plan to decapitate these fuckers in about 15 minutes and don’t want Obama to get the credit? How long before he does it anyway and they don’t even get credit for authorizing it?

257 Mattand  Feb 17, 2015 8:49:35pm

re: #203 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Listening to Philadelphia residents bitching because their sidestreets weren’t plowed. We got 3.7 inches. I don’t think you can even plow 3.7 inches of snow.

I’ve been down some of those streets. I didn’t think a plow would fit on them.

258 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 17, 2015 8:51:43pm

gotnwes.com debunks yet another UpChuck exposé.

BREAKING: Sinister Obama Justice Dept. makes finding interracial crime stats too hard for @GotNewsDotCom

GotNwes has learned that the the Holder Justice Department has likely made interracial crime statistics harder to find for stupid people since Obama came into office.

259 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 17, 2015 9:01:36pm

Anyway, I’m ready to go. They didn’t pick me, alas. I guess it’s like the freakin’ lottery—they want you to buy a ticket beforehand! What a gyp!

260 BeachDem  Feb 17, 2015 9:05:28pm

Watched “Freedom Summer” on PBS. (Actually, I missed the first 1/2 hour, but it is on Amazon Prime, so will catch the rest.) Same people that did “Freedom Riders” a few years ago. So good; so sad that some of the same fucking things are still going on today with voter suppression.

All the tough-talking gun-slinging “patriots” running their mouths these days wouldn’t have lasted 10 minutes facing the crap those volunteers and the people in Mississippi did just to be allowed to vote.

Johnson was a real ass about the challenge at the 1964 convention by the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party delegation. He called out all of his minions, called in all of his favors, and while the most persuasive speaker on the challenge team (a sharecropper named Fannie Lou Hamer) was speaking live, Johnson called a press conference, so the networks cut away from her speech. His press conference was to announce that it had been 9 months since the Kennedy assassination.

I guess he redeemed himself by signing the Voting Rights Act in 1965.

Highly recommend it if you haven’t watched it.

261 #FergusonFireside  Feb 17, 2015 9:07:59pm

re: #259 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Anyway, I’m ready to go. They didn’t pick me, alas. I guess it’s like the freakin’ lottery—they want you to buy a ticket beforehand! What a gyp!

Bad link. What?????

262 Kragar  Feb 17, 2015 9:08:06pm

Its treason for the President to have the House GOP fail to fund DHS?

263 BeachDem  Feb 17, 2015 9:10:23pm

re: #258 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

gotnwes.com debunks yet another UpChuck exposé.

BREAKING: Sinister Obama Justice Dept. makes finding interracial crime stats too hard for @GotNewsDotCom

I must say, whenever I get depressed reading upchuck’s insane tweets (I seldom actually read his putrid site), I just to to gotnwes.com for a cleansing breath of sanity. You really do a good job highlighting his buffoonery, and you are at least a hundred times better writer.

264 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 17, 2015 9:11:29pm

re: #261 #FergusonFireside

Bad link. What?????

I think the link is OK—they just seem to be offline at the moment. It was a story on space.com about Mars One choosing their 100 finalists.

265 #FergusonFireside  Feb 17, 2015 9:12:12pm

re: #264 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think the link is OK—they just seem to be offline at the moment. It was a story on space.com about Mars One choosing their 100 finalists.

Ah, I saw the photos. Regular peeps who wrote a good essay? Didn’t see any celebs.

266 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 17, 2015 9:20:17pm

re: #265 #FergusonFireside

Ah, I saw the photos. Regular peeps who wrote a good essay? Didn’t see any celebs.

I think the last 240 at least had to pass physicals at least.

267 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 17, 2015 9:25:08pm

re: #263 BeachDem

I must say, whenever I get depressed reading upchuck’s insane tweets (I seldom actually read his putrid site), I just to to gotnwes.com for a cleansing breath of sanity. You really do a good job highlighting his buffoonery, and you are at least a hundred times better writer.

Thanks. I used to be a newspaper reporter. I learned on the job, as it were.

268 BeachDem  Feb 17, 2015 9:27:42pm

re: #267 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Thanks. I used to be a newspaper reporter. I learned on the job, as it were.

It shows!

269 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 17, 2015 9:28:33pm

re: #227 Romantic Heretic

His Twitter handle is also one of the less successful tank destroyers of WWII.

Not one of Ferdinand Porsche’s more agile designs.

270 BeenHereAwhile  Feb 17, 2015 9:45:40pm

re: #227 Romantic Heretic

His Twitter handle is also one of the less successful tank destroyers of WWII.

Tom Tom Club - L’Elephant

…

271 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 17, 2015 9:54:06pm

The last time I had it (early 80s), it was spelled with an “f”.

272 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 17, 2015 9:58:41pm

Or..I think I tried Giraf the same night. Maybe that’s where I got that. After WA state near-beer, they packed a wallop.

273 BadExampleMan  Feb 17, 2015 11:31:26pm

re: #141 The Vicious Babushka

State Dept. Spokesperson Marie Harf: We Can’t Kill Every Last One Of Them.

Yes We Can!


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