Rep. Kevin McCarthy Drops Out of the Running for Speaker of the House at the Last Minute

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Minutes before the election was scheduled to start, Rep. Kevin McCarthy has dropped out of the election for Speaker of the House.

Fire up those popcorn poppers, folks. It’s a clown show and it’s just beginning.

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Lidane  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:10:20am
Fire up those popcorn poppers, folks. It’s a clown show and it’s just beginning.
2
Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:10:47am

So how long for the Benghazi committee blames Hillary for this?

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Mike Lamb  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:13:35am

Which leaves Scalise as the frontrunner?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:13:45am

It’s gotta be because he opened his yap on Clinton and Benghazi. Damage control.

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Stuff Happens  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:14:06am

Is he going to run for President?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:14:09am

re: #3 Mike Lamb

Which leaves Scalise as the frontrunner?

I don’t know if Skkkalise has declared himself as a candidate.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:14:10am
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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:15:30am

Now it looks like the vote itself has been postponed.

Could a member of the Batshit Insane Caucus whip up enough votes to win?

I really dread finding out who’s going to get the speakership, but I gotta admit this is pretty entertaining.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:15:37am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

No it wasn’t those crazy fucks in the House GOP that have been doing crazy shit for years. Nope, it was some dumbass ginger blogger out of California barely anyone gives a shit about anymore.

Sure, makes PERFECT sense.

/

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:15:40am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

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The fact that he blabbed about the GOP’s strategy to bring down the Dem frontrunner. Han nothing to do with it. Be careful with what you wish for Chucky Boy because eventually you’re gong to step in your own shit.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:15:49am

One lying scumbag is pretty much the same as any other.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:16:11am

This is why, for the longest time, Boehner has managed to remain Speaker, because the confederacy of dunces assembled against him have no leader. McCarthy ran as the heir apparent and, as many suspected, was too damaged by being associated with Boehner to ever be taken seriously by the wingnut caucus as a suitable replacement. So now the horsetrading begins, as they try to find somebody crazy enough to take the job but sane enough not to want it.

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TedStriker  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:16:15am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:16:21am

re: #8 makeitstop

Could a member of the Batshit Insane Caucus whip up enough votes to win?

If no one can get enough votes who becomes speaker?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:16:53am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:16:58am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

It was his threat to release the infidelity story that got McCarthy so distracted he accidentally told the truth about the Benghazi Committee.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:17:14am

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

If no one can get enough votes who becomes speaker?

If they can’t find somebody who can win the election, then Boehner remains Speaker.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:17:20am

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

If no one can get enough votes who becomes speaker?

It will go to the person who gets the most votes so hypothetically we could if the House R’s are that fragmented be looking at Speaker Pelosi 2.0 in January in which case I will be in an asylum having laughed or consecutive days. Oh yeah and for the mean time, Boehner I think would remain Speaker. Sorry.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:17:56am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:18:03am

re: #16 Blind Frog Belly White

It was his threat to release the infidelity story that got McCarthy so distracted he accidentally told the truth about the Benghazi Committee.

//

Of course!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:18:06am
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Mike Lamb  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:18:47am

I’m trying to think of the proper movie analogy for what’s about to come down in the House:

A) The riot at the end of “Animal House” or
B) The scene where all the inmates are released from Arkham in Batman Begins.

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:19:28am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Master something, but manipulator isn’t my first word choice.

And I really doubt it has anything to do with claims of marital infidelity, as if that’s stopped some of the Congress critters from staying around.

Much more likely, is that someone told him that his comments about the Benghazi committee sunk his chances since it gave up the game that the GOP had been trying to play going into 2016 - do the absolute minimum legislatively, and look like they’re busy with hearing after hearing involving Hillary.

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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:19:41am

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

If no one can get enough votes who becomes speaker?

That’s a damn good question, EC. You got me.

But I figure one of these knuckleheads is going to get it done.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:20:00am

They vote again on Speaker in January don’t they?

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Lidane  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:20:12am

Freepers are having a field day. Multiple threads about this, so have some choice derp from both of them:

Looks like the hated Chuck C. Johnson was correct, yet again.

Something potent in those Green Footballs…

Boener remains. And now we see the Trojan horse effort to maintain Boner as Speaker.

Our gun rights are under assault more than ever, from a President with a proven record of unconstitutional decrees.

I nominate Ted Nugent.

NOW are you beginning to understand how Obama has been riding roughshod over the GOP leadership?

Given how the Obamunists have weaponized government, it would be no big stretch to think they have been using the FBI files and NSA surveillance against them.

Time for a Godly man like Daniel Webster to be leader of the House.

The guy is not a fighter. I did not like how he responded to his mistake. He should have come out fighting like a Trump would have. But he wilted.

Is this good or bad news? Good that McCarthy didn’t have enough votes, but hearing rumors that Boehner will stay in until he forces them to raise debt ceiling.

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ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:20:40am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

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Heh, there it is.

I mentioned Chucky did it in the last thread.

If Jason Chaffetz has been insufferable…watch him now. He just spoke and said he was stunned…but he was smiling. He will be campaigning like a mad man to get the Speakers post.

Yuck!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:21:01am

re: #22 Mike Lamb

I’m trying to think of the proper movie analogy for what’s about to come down in the House:

A) The riot at the end of “Animal House” or
B) The scene where all the inmates are released from Arkham in Batman Begins.

The pie fight at the end of “Blazing Saddles”

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Stuff Happens  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:21:41am

re: #28 The Vicious Babushka

The pie fight at the end of “Blazing Saddles”

Lord of the Flies

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:21:48am

re: #26 Lidane

Freepers are having a field day. Multiple threads about this, so have some choice derp from both of them:

Seriously, they think this is part of some shadowy effort to keep Boehner as Speaker?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:21:48am

rollingstone.com
I read this about a hour before the story broke. Very relevant I think if you want to understand the internal GOP Civil War.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:22:24am

re: #26 Lidane

Freepers are having a field day. Multiple threads about this, so have some choice derp from both of them:

Ted Nugent lol. Well if that happened, CCJ would have a rival for smelliest name in politics.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:22:50am

Wonder how many members of the Freedom Caucus are finding out what the top of Jason Chaffetz’ head looks like.

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b_sharp  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:22:59am

I gotta stop working while on LGF, I keep missing the new threads.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:23:30am
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Jay C  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:24:20am

re: #18 HappyWarrior

It will go to the person who gets the most votes so hypothetically we could if the House R’s are that fragmented be looking at Speaker Pelosi 2.0 in January in which case I will be in an asylum having laughed or consecutive days.

Doesn’t it have to be a majority of the votes, i.e. 218? Regardless of party?
Admittedly, seeing Nancy Smash back in the Speaker’s chair would be a rare treat indeed, given the House Republicans’ unfortunately huge majority - and the fact that they tend to view Democrats more-or-less like medievals dealt with lepers - that’s a vanishingly unlikely prospect*.

*For which mis-forecast I will be only TOO happy to apologize for!

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Mike Lamb  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:24:56am

re: #31 HappyWarrior

rollingstone.com
I read this about a hour before the story broke. Very relevant I think if you want to understand the internal GOP Civil War.

Just because they are educated doesn’t make them sane.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:25:56am

THIS BULLSHIT AGAIN==>

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TedStriker  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:26:51am

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

THIS BULLSHIT AGAIN==>

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Lidane  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:27:08am

re: #32 HappyWarrior

Ted Nugent lol. Well if that happened, CCJ would have a rival for smelliest name in politics.

The funniest part is that they give CCJ credit for taking down McCarthy but think he runs this site.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:27:19am

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:28:50am

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

THIS BULLSHIT AGAIN==>

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Uh they did have guns. That’s how the genocide fucking happened you imbecile who gets all his information about the Nazis from historical illiterates. A bunch of regular people with guns weren’t going to stop the Nazis. If the Polish, French, etc militaries couldn’t stop them. German gun laws have nothing to do with the fact that the Jewish community in Poland was decimated. Carson should shut the fuck up about things he obviously has no idea what he’s talking about.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:29:04am

re: #22 Mike Lamb

I’m trying to think of the proper movie analogy for what’s about to come down in the House:

A) The riot at the end of “Animal House” or
B) The scene where all the inmates are released from Arkham in Batman Begins.

Got you covered:

Anchorman 2 : Fight Scene

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:29:04am

Wait. Wut?

If that’s an accurate quote then I think Carson just showed how completely ignorant he is outside of his medical specialty.

As a reminder, Germany murdered more than 6 million Jews, most of whom lived in countries like Belgium, Netherlands, France, Poland and Russia, which were defended by entire armies with guns, planes, tanks, and yet folded ahead of the Nazi advances.

Out of the 6 million, only about 135k were Germans. The balance were in countries that Germany invaded with its military.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:29:08am

re: #40 Lidane

The funniest part is that they give CCJ credit for taking down McCarthy but think he runs this site.

Yeah that was hilarous.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:29:11am

re: #36 Jay C

Doesn’t it have to be a majority of the votes, i.e. 218? Regardless of party?
Admittedly, seeing Nancy Smash back in the Speaker’s chair would be a rare treat indeed, given the House Republicans’ unfortunately huge majority - and the fact that they tend to view Democrats more-or-less like medievals dealt with lepers - that’s a vanishingly unlikely prospect*.

For which mis-forecast I will be only TOO happy to apologize for!

There’s no written rule. The House has adopted the practice of requiring an absolute majority of all Representatives to elect a Speaker.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:29:28am

I think they should elect David Brat Speaker. He’s the guy who beat Cantor, after all. Isn’t that a mandate?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:29:44am

re: #29 Stuff Happens

Lord of the Flies

More like the end of Reservoir Dogs.

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:29:52am

re: #41 Kragar

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:30:15am

re: #44 lawhawk

Wait. Wut?

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If that’s an accurate quote then I think Carson just showed how completely ignorant he is outside of his medical specialty.

As a reminder, Germany murdered more than 6 million Jews, most of whom lived in countries like Belgium, Netherlands, France, Poland and Russia, which were defended by entire armies with guns, planes, tanks, and yet folded ahead of the Nazi advances.

Out of the 6 million, only about 135k were Germans. The balance were in countries that Germany invaded with its military.

Exactly and frankly any occupying military power is not going to allow the civiilans in those countries to have guns. It just astounds me how painfully ignorant this man is about the Nazis and how he’s using it to put down common sense gun laws.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:30:33am

re: #47 Barefoot Grin

I think they should elect David Brat Speaker. He’s the guy who beat Cantor, after all. Isn’t that a mandate?

He has the name for it.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:31:03am

re: #44 lawhawk

Wait. Wut?

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If that’s an accurate quote then I think Carson just showed how completely ignorant he is outside of his medical specialty.

As a reminder, Germany murdered more than 6 million Jews, most of whom lived in countries like Belgium, Netherlands, France, Poland and Russia, which were defended by entire armies with guns, planes, tanks, and yet folded ahead of the Nazi advances.

Out of the 6 million, only about 135k were Germans. The balance were in countries that Germany invaded with its military.

And does he seriously believe that those Germans Jews were going to rise up against Hitler, a guy who’d rode to power on a wave of resentment for those he’d claimed “stabbed Germany in the back”?

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Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:31:28am

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

THIS BULLSHIT AGAIN==>

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Because the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising really managed to stop the Holocaust or the deportation of the Jews from Warsaw or Poland.

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Lidane  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:32:12am

re: #30 Targetpractice

Seriously, they think this is part of some shadowy effort to keep Boehner as Speaker?

Boehner would gladly sacrifice his entire liquor cabinet and spray tan supply if he could get the hell out of Dodge tomorrow and these brainiacs think he wants to stay.

El Oh El.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:32:24am

re: #52 Targetpractice

And does he seriously believe that those Germans Jews were going to rise up against Hitler, a guy who’d rode to power on a wave of resentment for those he’d claimed “stabbed Germany in the back”?

Footage of armed Jews would have been a propaganda galore for Goebels. And Ben of course ignores that the Nazis had a lot of people in Europe sympathetic to their aims. Footage of armed Jews would have made that even worse. This is a man who has no grasp whatsoever of what Nazism actually was and frankly that’s okay but he’s running for president comparing sensible policy to the Nazis which is NOT okay.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:33:02am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:33:34am

re: #52 Targetpractice

And does he seriously believe that those Germans Jews were going to rise up against Hitler, a guy who’d rode to power on a wave of resentment for those he’d claimed “stabbed Germany in the back”?

I don’t Tweet this meme too often, every time I do I get batshit gunfuckers all up in my timeline.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:33:37am

re: #37 Mike Lamb

Just because they are educated doesn’t make them sane.

I put them in the ‘evil’ category. It is their intention to burn America to the ground and then rebuild it to their standards.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:34:01am

re: #54 Lidane

Boehner would gladly sacrifice his entire liquor cabinet and spray tan supply if he cold get the hell out of Dodge tomorrow and these brainiacs think he wants to stay.

El Oh El.

I’m sure it makes total sense in their syphilitic brains, that he faked wanting to leave the Speakership so he could get out from under the threats to remove him as Speaker, thus allowing him to bypass a government shutdown to help Planned Parenthood.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:34:12am

re: #57 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t Tweet this meme too often, every time I do I get batshit gunfuckers all up in my timeline.

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Precisely.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:34:33am

re: #49 lawhawk

“The Germans bombed Pearl Harbor,” is doubly hilarious because everybody knows that Hollywood liberals staged the whole thing to keep Roosevelt in office so he could grab the guns of the Japanese, Germans, and Italians.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:34:47am

re: #1 Lidane

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That supply should keep us going at least through the weekend

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:35:18am

re: #51 HappyWarrior

He has the name for it.

I know him. The name really fits.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:35:23am

en.wikipedia.org
Look at the casualty figures on the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and tell me that “guns” would have prevented the Holocaust.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:35:54am

re: #63 Barefoot Grin

I know him. The name really fits.

Oh you do? I just know of him obviously but the guy just sounds like a real nutjob with a twisted philosophy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:36:14am

re: #64 HappyWarrior

en.wikipedia.org
Look at the casualty figures on the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and tell me that “guns” would have prevented the Holocaust.

Don’t bring a gun to a tank fight.

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Jay C  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:36:34am

re: #49 lawhawk

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Not to mention the fact that one thing Weimar-Republic-era Germans feared and hated as much as Communism was the notion of armed gangs of civilians (especially the “wrong kind” of civilians) running around disturbing public order. How does Ben Carson think the Nazis got their original support, anyway?

Just goes to show that Dr, Carson’s knowledge of history is about as solid as his grasp of economics.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:37:40am

Anne Frank with a Tommy Gun would have prevented the Holocaust. Confirmed fact. //

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:37:54am

re: #26 Lidane

Looks like the hated Chuck C. Johnson was correct, yet again.

Something potent in those Green Footballs…

LOLwhut?

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sffilk  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:38:16am

Did he actually give a reason?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:38:27am

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Oh you do? I just know of him obviously but the guy just sounds like a real nutjob with a twisted philosophy.

He’s one of those complicated Christian-economists who taught the Bible of Ayn Rand, thinks humanities professors are flimflam artists. I was in the Richmond area for awhile and had cause to know him then.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:38:34am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:39:10am

re: #67 Jay C

Not to mention the fact that one thing Weimar-Republic-era Germans feared and hated as much as Communism was the notion of armed gangs of civilians (especially the “wrong kind” of civilians) running around disturbing public order. How does Ben Carson think the Nazis got their original support, anyway?

Just goes to show that Dr, Carson’s knowledge of history is about as solid as his grasp of economics.

The Weimar gun control laws were passed in part to prevent the nazis from running around killing random people.

As soon as they came into power, they adjusted the gun laws to give guns to themselves but nobody else.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:39:11am

The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. But under the new law:

Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as was the possession of ammunition.”[5]
The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.[6]
Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.[6]
The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[5]
Manufacture of arms and ammunition continued to require a permit, with the revision that such permits would no longer be issued to Jews or any company part-owned by Jews. Jews were consequently forbidden from the manufacturing or dealing of firearms and ammunition.[5]

Under both the 1928 and 1938 acts, gun manufacturers and dealers were required to maintain records with information about who purchased guns and the guns’ serial numbers. These records were to be delivered to a police authority for inspection at the end of each year.
Disarming Jews in Nazi Germany

On November 11, 1938, the Regulations Against Jews’ Possession of Weapons was promulgated by Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick. This regulation effectively deprived all Jews living in those locations of the right to possess any form of weapons including truncheons, knives, or firearms and ammunition.[7] Some police forces used the pre-existing “trustworthiness” clause to disarm Jews on the basis “the Jewish population ‘cannot be regarded as trustworthy’”.[5]

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:39:57am

re: #71 Barefoot Grin

He’s one of those complicated Christian-economists who taught the Bible of Ayn Rand, thinks humanities professors are flimflam artists. I was in the Richmond area for awhile and had cause to know him then.

Oh okay. Yeah I knew about his weird religious and economic views.

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prairiefire  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:40:44am

He looks like he’s been chased by a pack of hounds.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:40:44am

re: #74 Kragar

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The Nazis made it very easy for “Aryans” to own weapons. That in fact is why something like Kristallnacht was able to occur.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:41:12am

re: #72 Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:41:13am
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:42:58am

re: #57 The Vicious Babushka

Germany’s invasion of Poland was triggered by an SS false flag operation in which SS men in civilian clothes took over a German broadcast radio station near the border and announced, in flawless Polish, that the Poles were coming to get Germany. I doubt that it would have taken more than one Jew firing a rifle at someone in uniform to initiate massacres.

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Stuff Happens  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:43:49am

re: #50 HappyWarrior

Exactly and frankly any occupying military power is not going to allow the civiilans in those countries to have guns. It just astounds me how painfully ignorant this man is about the Nazis and how he’s using it to put down common sense gun laws.

About 25% of the people the Nazis murdered were young children.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:43:55am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:44:09am
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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:44:34am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:44:44am

What I notice from a lot of Conservative Christians especially ones like Carson who like to paint the Nazis as precursors of modern liberals is they like to ignore how rampant Anti-Semitism was in Christianity at that time.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:44:58am

re: #81 Stuff Happens

About 25% of the people the Nazis murdered were young children.

Exactly that too.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:46:48am
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Lidane  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:47:44am

ROFL:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:48:17am

re: #87 Kragar

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Don’t forget, said he would be David Duke without the baggage. Skkalise wanted to be Duke without the stigma of KKK connections but with the ideology.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:48:39am

re: #88 Lidane

ROFL:

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My how the mighty have fallen.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:48:58am

re: #29 Stuff Happens

Lord of the Flies

Hunger Games

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:49:56am

re: #91 Big Beautiful Door

Hunger Games Battle Royale

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:50:41am

More like Hotel Rwanda.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:50:55am

re: #88 Lidane

ROFL:

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I should keep this handy the next time I get either a conservative or liberal who tells me that the GOP is in a better position than the DNC because it has so many young, fresh faces to carry the party forward.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:52:32am

re: #74 Kragar

That makes for an interesting question. If the nature of the “arms” in the Second Amendment aren’t specified then I would think that the government could freely regulate what kinds of arms can be borne by all of those well regulated militias.
I’m thinking BB guns.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:53:20am
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Jenner7  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:53:39am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:54:09am

re: #97 Jenner7

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? Interesting.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:55:03am

re: #92 Eclectic Cyborg

With Cheese!!

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:55:32am

re: #95 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That makes for an interesting question. If the nature of the “arms” in the Second Amendment aren’t specified then I would think that the government could freely regulate what kinds of arms can be borne by all of those well regulated militias.
I’m thinking BB guns.

The original purpose for the clause “well regulated” was so that all the civilians showing up for their militia service would be carrying the same equipment. That way, parts and ammunition could all be easily traded and replaced from government supplies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:59:01am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:59:02am

re: #100 Kragar

The original purpose for the clause “well regulated” was so that all the civilians showing up for their militia service would be carrying the same equipment. That way, parts and ammunition could all be easily traded and replaced from government supplies.

Article I, Section 8 makes it clear that “the Militia” is to be organized and armed in accordance with rules set down by Congress. Its not referring to a bunch of rednecks getting drunk in the woods while playing with guns.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:59:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:59:42am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 10:59:53am
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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:00:21am

re: #102 Big Beautiful Door

Article I, Section 8 makes it clear that “the Militia” is to be organized and armed in accordance with rules set down by Congress. Its not referring to a bunch of rednecks getting drunk in the woods while playing with guns.

Of course the war of 1812 had to come alone and show how utterly useless the militia was in regards to sustained long term conflict.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:00:35am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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Delusions of reference.

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Franklin  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:01:52am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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Someones been getting high on their own supply.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:02:10am
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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:02:24am

re: #106 Kragar

Of course the war of 1812 had to come alone and show how utterly useless the militia was in regards to sustained long term conflict.

The War of 1812 only really reminded those in power of why the Continental Army had existed in the first place. Washington and others who’d served as officers remembered rather bitterly about how they’d call for help from local militias for a battle, but those who showed up tended to be poorly disciplined, have virtually no training as a soldier, and ran as soon as the shooting started.

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Jenner7  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:03:19am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:03:50am

re: #111 Jenner7

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Seriously?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:04:17am

re: #112 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Seriously?

Boehner’s legacy - a bunch of LITERAL crybabies.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:04:53am

re: #110 Targetpractice

The War of 1812 only really reminded those in power of why the Continental Army had existed in the first place. Washington and others who’d served as officers remembered rather bitterly about how they’d call for help from local militias for a battle, but those who showed up tended to be poorly disciplined, have virtually no training as a soldier, and ran as soon as the shooting started.

The other factor was militia service was limited to 3 months. After 3 months, they were supposed to be let go so they could get back to their civilian businesses.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:05:27am

re: #114 Kragar

The other factor was militia service was limited to 3 months. After 3 months, they were supposed to be let go so they could get back to their civilian businesses.

The Union Army had this problem at the beginning of the Civil War as well.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:05:47am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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And here I would have imagined that getting banned from Twitter and losing his only real platform for agitation and detoxxing people, that CCJ would have gained a little humility.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:06:08am

re: #111 Jenner7

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Is there too much estrogen in the House water supply?

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:06:45am

re: #111 Jenner7

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I can’t say I’m really surprised, this shit has gotta be absolutely infuriating for the old hands. If they can’t even bring together the votes to elect a new Speaker, what does that say about their chances of getting anything worthwhile done before the presidential election sucks the remaining air out of DC?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:06:55am

re: #100 Kragar

The original purpose for the clause “well regulated” was so that all the civilians showing up for their militia service would be carrying the same equipment. That way, parts and ammunition could all be easily traded and replaced from government supplies.

Though there is scant unit-level documentation from the time, I believe that “well regulated” also meant that militia members were expected to show up at periodic musters and that they were required to have officers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:07:56am

re: #114 Kragar

Yeah, that’s not going to be much use against a heavily drilled, professional army. The ability of such an army to put out sustained volleys of fire would scare the crap out of anyone facing them, especially if all you could manage is a sporadic, desultory response.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:08:16am

re: #111 Jenner7

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:08:31am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

The Voldemort of American politics? Really? He wants to make that comparison?

A guy who murders, tricks, and achieves power but is undone by love and a teenager who realizes that self-sacrifice and a giving nature is key to defeating and destroying Voldemort.

Or, is Chucky admitting that he’s got more than proverbial skeletons in his closet. Has he been checked for horcruxes?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:08:35am

How can you tell this wingnut has a non-union, minimum wage shit job?
Because otherwise he could afford a new truck!

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ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:08:59am

re: #70 sffilk

Did he actually give a reason?

Are you talking about McCarthy?

He said he felt it best to step aside because he wanted to make sure his caucus was unified.

In other words, he knew he didn;t have enough votes and probably that told him if her manages to sway his way in the Freedom gang (TeaPartiers) would most likely make his life pure hell, possibly worse than what Boehner went through.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:09:31am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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He should be careful about who he compares himself to. Voldermort was kill by his own spell. But then again, uphuck getting destroyed by his own published “works” would be nothing but poetic justice.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:09:48am

re: #111 Jenner7

Rep. Peter King tells me that members are crying in cloakroom, unable to handle the unrest and confusion.

These would be the same people who accuse liberals of being weak on nearly everything. A troop of scouts could enbitch them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:10:01am

re: #125 Bubblehead II

He already destroyed himself on Twitter.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:10:15am

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

Bad grammar there too.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:10:21am

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

How can you tell this wingnut has a non-union, minimum wage shit job?
Because otherwise he could afford a new truck!

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Hurr hurr all democrat party is on welfare!!!!!!11

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:10:39am

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, that’s not going to be much use against a heavily drilled, professional army. The ability of such an army to put out sustained volleys of fire would scare the crap out of anyone facing them, especially if all you could manage is a sporadic, desultory response.

There was a reason why Brits didn’t burn the Marine Barracks when they sacked Washington.

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:11:18am

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

That this kind of chaos is going on with the GOP speaks poorly of the GOP whips. It’s their job to get the counts on votes so they know what will happen in advance. And yet, here we are and the GOP is showing just how screwed up their internal dynamics are.

And Scalise (he of the KKK/white supremacist fame) is the whip.

Told you that he was no good at math.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:11:42am

re: #124 ObserverArt

He said he felt it best to step aside because he wanted to make sure his caucus was unified spend more time with his family.

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Bubblehead II  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:13:26am

re: #127 Blind Frog Belly White

He already destroyed himself on Twitter.

Still waiting on the Gawker debacle to reach it’s conclusion.

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ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:13:30am

re: #87 Kragar

The Baxter Bean @TheBaxterBean

BREAKING: GOP Leader Who Spoke To KKK & Voted Against MLK Holiday, Running For House Speaker thehill.com

1:00 PM - 8 Oct 2015

Oh hell no!

It will be interesting to see how the GOP party handles him. If that duffer gets in, the Democrats and others should fire freely at the whole GOP.

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:13:49am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:13:52am

re: #131 lawhawk

And yet these morons won the House in 2010 and have kept it since. I’m reminded of an SNL sketch back in 1988, with Dana Carvey as GHWB, and John Lovitz as Dukakis. Bush prattles on in that astonishingly inarticulate way that Bushes do, and Dukakis says, “I can’t believe I’m losing to this guy.”

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:14:16am

It’s actually a very good comparison because Voldemort was ultimately self-destructive, and Chuck’s lawsuit against Gawker is going to ruin him.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:14:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:15:00am
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ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:15:38am

re: #94 Targetpractice

I should keep this handy the next time I get either a conservative or liberal who tells me that the GOP is in a better position than the DNC because it has so many young, fresh faces to carry the party forward.

Hmmm. I wonder who that could be?

(whistles)

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:15:54am

re: #129 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Hurr hurr all democrat party is on welfare!!!!!!11

You joke. I’ve lived way down among ‘em and I can tell you that most of them are convinced that they would be on Easy Street if the government wasn’t taking all of their money to provide a bunch of [insert stereotype] with posh lifestyles. They truly believe that as godfearing White men they are burdened with supporting America while the rest of us just fuck around.

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:16:24am

re: #136 Blind Frog Belly White

Gerrymandering / redistricting is the prime reason that the GOP is in control in the House.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:17:19am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:18:09am

re: #142 lawhawk

Gerrymandering / redistricting is the prime reason that the GOP is in control in the House.

We need a system which includes proportional representation by at-large candidates so that voters can’t be gerrymandered into irrelevance.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:18:41am

Jeb just crawl into a corner and die already.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:18:50am

re: #142 lawhawk

Gerrymandering / redistricting is the prime reason that the GOP is in control in the House.

That, and they vote. We Dems, OTOH, only show up every 4 years, then wonder why this shit happens.

The voting thing put the GOP in in 2010. Redistricting kept them in in 2012, and to a lesser extent 2014, where the voting thing also helped.

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Khal Wimpo  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:22:56am

Meanwhile, the reaction by the commenters over at foxnews.com are all over the map. Some of them are whooping it up, some are hurling rage-insults at imagined Democratic boogeymen, some are pounding their chests and vowing REVOLOOSHUN!!! some are predicting the splintering of the GOP into factions … basically, all the dysfunction of the GOP-controlled congress, with more racism and less attention to spelling and grammar.

A sampling:

Yep, JEB!! is announced as next to take a bullet from his own peeps. The loony GOP base is so consumed with hate that they will kill their own, just so they can hurt someone.
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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:23:22am
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prairiefire  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:23:23am

re: #138 Kragar

That is hilarious.

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Lidane  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:27:00am
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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:27:01am

re: #142 lawhawk

Gerrymandering / redistricting is the prime reason that the GOP is in control in the House.

Indisputable. Now to find someone who has the brains and the perseverance to oversee the district by district campaign to restore a semblance of balance. Those states didn’t get gerrymandered overnight and if you paid attention to off-year politics then you saw what was coming.
The Democratic leadership is reminding me way to much of General George B. McClellan. Time for one Grant and a couple of Shermans.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:27:27am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:28:14am

It may take a firm commitment to shut down the government and to take the US to the brink of default on the debt limit to win 218 votes for the Speakership from the GOP. The sane members of the GOP House should tell the “Freedom Caucus” to go to hell, and make a deal with the Democrats to raise the debt limit and fund the government with sequester limits lifted at least until March of 2017.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:28:19am
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Lidane  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:29:19am

OT:

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:30:23am

re: #154 The Vicious Babushka

In today’s GOP, comrade, unintentional honesty is severely punished.

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missliberties  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:30:43am

re: #100 Kragar

I am wrong in thinking that ‘well regulated militia’ was to help keep the imported black farm animals from jumping over the property fence to freedom to ensure the plantation owners could maximize profits with the cheapest labor possible?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:31:21am

re: #157 missliberties

Shhhh!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:31:38am
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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:31:47am

It was a math game, and the extremists refused to back McCarthy on the floor, so 50 of the GOPers threw the party into chaos.

It had precisely Dick to do with Chucky.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:31:50am

re: #157 missliberties

I am wrong in thinking that ‘well regulated militia’ was to help keep the imported black farm animals from jumping over the property fence to freedom to ensure the plantation owners could maximize profits with the cheapest labor possible?

Slave rebellion is certainly something the Militia could be called up to suppress.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:32:15am
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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:32:57am

re: #142 lawhawk

Gerrymandering / redistricting is the prime reason that the GOP is in control in the House.

Their inability to compromise and the resultant chaos is a self-inflicted wound.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:33:12am
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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:33:18am

re: #156 Higgs Boson’s Mate

In today’s GOP, comrade, unintentional honesty is severely punished.

Ayep, which is why the few “moderates” in the House ranks are not going to broker any sort of deal with Democrats, at least not out in the open. Because they know the wingnuts will geld them at the voting booth for even thinking of working with Democrats.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:33:24am

re: #161 Big Beautiful Door

Slave rebellion is certainly something the Militia could be called up to suppress.

Not to mention the key reason behind the South’s military traditions.

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missliberties  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:35:11am

re: #136 Blind Frog Belly White

And yet these morons won the House in 2010 and have kept it since. I’m reminded of an SNL sketch back in 1988, with Dana Carvey as GHWB, and John Lovitz as Dukakis. Bush prattles on in that astonishingly inarticulate way that Bushes do, and Dukakis says, “I can’t believe I’m losing to this guy.”

They won in 2010 with false promises to destroy Obama and Obamacare The tea party deals with their disappointment by having tantrums.

Yet the tax payers write their paychecks while they complain about big gummint spending. The irony.

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No Country For Old Haters  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:36:37am

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

THIS BULLSHIT AGAIN==>

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:36:49am

re: #160 lawhawk

It was a math game, and the extremists refused to back McCarthy on the floor, so 50 of the GOPers threw the party into chaos.

It had precisely Dick to do with Chucky.

Which means Upchuckery will continue claiming “credit”.

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nines09  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:37:04am

re: #145 The Vicious Babushka

Jeb!

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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:38:43am

OT, but the lyrical content is strangely apropos

Zac Brown Band - Heavy Is The Head (Lyric Video) ft. Chris Cornell

Zac Brown’s got a hell of a band. And Cornell sets this off perfectly. I’m digging this.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:39:01am

re: #147 Khal Wimpo

Meanwhile, the reaction by the commenters over at foxnews.com are all over the map. Some of them are whooping it up, some are hurling rage-insults at imagined Democratic boogeymen, some are pounding their chests and vowing REVOLOOSHUN!!! some are predicting the splintering of the GOP into factions … basically, all the dysfunction of the GOP-controlled congress, with more racism and less attention to spelling and grammar.

A sampling:

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Hurr hurr GOP is all libtards only Real Conservative should be Speaker!!!!

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Franklin  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:39:48am

re: #145 The Vicious Babushka

Jeb just crawl into a corner and die already.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:39:52am

re: #170 nines09

Jeb!

OMG that’s funny

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ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:40:12am

re: #155 Lidane

OT:

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That man taught me about the holy trinity of Louisiana cooking.

Onions, Celery and Green Peppers.

RIP in chef…and thanks for the tips.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:40:14am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:40:52am

Interesting parallel to the current GOP situation: Remember how fucked up Iraq got when Saddam was deposed?

When you remove the person holding back the crazies, anarchy is sure to ensue.

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:41:02am

This is what happens when you have a tyranny of the minority (which can be just as damaging as the tyranny of the majority). It’s one of the things that the Founders warned of when they created the federal system of government - along with separation of powers and a bicameral legislature where one side is directly represented and is in perpetual churn (the House) and the Senate, which had a longer term outlook since they were elected every 6 years.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:41:48am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:43:15am

re: #179 The Vicious Babushka

Why stupid, poor people vote GOP, straight from a wingnut==>

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And that is why she’s going to vote for the party which nuked eight million jobs in the last recession.

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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:43:31am
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nines09  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:43:33am

re: #174 Big Beautiful Door

OMG that’s funny

I agree. I stumbled across it. There is a lot of damn good satire in there. This is a scream.

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darthstar  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:43:54am
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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:44:14am
Guess today’s a good day to break out all the panic gifs
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darthstar  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:45:41am

Just remember…it’s the Democrats who are in disarray. John Boehner would give his left nut for his party to only be in disarray.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:45:52am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:46:00am

re: #182 nines09

I agree. I stumbled across it. There is a lot of damn good satire in there. This is a scream.

LOL, that is brilliant.

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missliberties  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:47:02am

re: #158 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Shhhh!

Last night after watching Blood Lion and the for profit business of Caged Hunting, I was reminded of the tension between property rights and moral imperatives & questions of barbarism. They lions are raised on private farms to be shot by the highest bidder. They can’t be shut down because of property rights and big profits.

It reminded me a lot of the arguments before the Civil War about property rights and taking your owned farm animals to the new territories.

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Belafon  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:48:01am

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

I bet if someone called him Uncle Tom he wouldn’t say “you’re entitled to your opinion.”

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:48:37am

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

I believe Ben Carson is an actual fool.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:48:49am

Let’s go to the White House for their reaction to this breaking news about the GOP:

their response
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:49:45am

re: #190 jaunte

I believe Ben Carson is an actual fool.

The clinical term is “autistic savant”

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:50:00am
Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid (R-NV) told the Republican party that the chaos over the succession contest for House speaker is no excuse for allowing the U.S. to default on its debt.
………
“Republican chaos is likely to get worse before it gets better but the economic livelihood of the American people should not be threatened as a result of Republicans’ inability to govern,” he continued.
talkingpointsmemo.com
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:50:41am

It was his own brain.

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:50:51am

re: #192 The Vicious Babushka

He has a childish understanding of history.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:52:01am

re: #193 jaunte

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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:52:11am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:53:46am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:55:08am
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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:55:36am

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

If no one can get enough votes who becomes speaker?

Per Jason Linkins:

And, as the Atlantic’s Russell Berman reports, while Chaffetz does not have enough support to compete with McCarthy at the House GOP’s informal vote, Chaffetz believes that the 30 or so members of the House’s mysterious “House Freedom Committee” (a sort of semi-secret society in the House that apparently reckoned that naming themselves “The No Boehners Club” was a touch too juvenile) will collectively vote against McCarthy, prevent him from hitting the magic number, and transform an orderly handover of power into a prolonged debacle:

That scenario is precisely what frightens rank-and-file Republicans.

The House could become institutionally paralyzed until it found a candidate that a majority of its voting members supported as speaker. And if the Republican leader fell short on the first ballot, there’s no guarantee the party would quickly settle on someone else. “We’ve got to figure out how to get to 218 before we get to the floor. Because otherwise we could be literally doing this through the fall,” said Representative Tom Rooney, a McCarthy ally from Florida.

How bad could that be, for Boehner? In 1923, it took nine rounds of voting to finally give Frederick Gillet the gavel, but these votes all took place over the course of three days, which would leave Boehner plenty of time to get home for Thanksgiving. As Berman notes, however, back “in the 19th century it took as long as two months for the House to agree on a leader.” In a similar situation, that would mean Boehner is stuck as the House speaker through the next debt ceiling vote.

But again, let’s underscore that this would just be a crazy and unlikely nightmare scenario, okay? The only thing that needs to happen for Boehner to start his retirement is for the House Republican caucus to arrive at a consensus position in a peaceable and timely manner. Which is ironic, because if Boehner’s colleagues had done this specific thing with something approaching “regularity,” the Ohio representative might not be trying to get the hell out of town right now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:56:21am
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calochortus  Oct 8, 2015 • 11:56:26am

If Boehner has to remain Speaker, will he resign his seat anyway? Will we have a non-member Speaker? What fun!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:00:00pm

re: #197 WhatEVs

Master floor shitter maybe.

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Jenner7  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:00:48pm
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Emoprog Refugee  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:01:04pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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Hmm. This comes to mind:

Grandiose delusions (GD) or delusions of grandeur are a subtype of delusion that occur in patients suffering from a wide range of mental illnesses … and a substantial portion of those with substance abuse disorders. GDs are characterized by fantastical beliefs that one is famous, omnipotent, wealthy, or otherwise very powerful.

He is certainly having them this morning.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:01:40pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

Don’t give them ideas…

/

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blueraven  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:01:48pm

Wow, Spencer Stone (Paris train hero) stabbed multiple times in a bar.

Didnt get the location. Suspects identified as 2 Asian males who fled in a car.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:03:06pm

re: #208 blueraven

Wow, Spence Stone (Paris train hero) stabbed multiple times in a bar.

Didnt get the location. Suspects identified as 2 Asian males who fled in a car.

Spencer Stone Stabbed in California

“We firmly believe that this is not a terrorism-related event and that it is in no way related to the incident that occurred in France,” police said in a statement. They called the stabbing “a nightlife-related incident.”

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Mike Lamb  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:03:32pm

re: #179 The Vicious Babushka

Why stupid, poor people vote GOP, straight from a wingnut==>

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And Obama was ripped for his guns and religion comment.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:03:55pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:04:48pm
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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:06:24pm

re: #200 WhatEVs

The House could become institutionally paralyzed

Wait, wait. They’re not already?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:06:38pm

re: #208 blueraven

Wow, Spencer Stone (Paris train hero) stabbed multiple times in a bar.

Didnt get the location. Suspects identified as 2 Asian males who fled in a car.

I wonder if it looked like this…

(apologies in advance if I offended anyone)

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:07:18pm

re: #211 Kragar

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You know that “rich guy’s” money bag is way too small.

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:07:25pm

Shoot that guy, he has the money!

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:08:14pm

Uh oh. Someone’s stepping all over Chucky’s credit for taking down McCarthy, which wasn’t true even on the face of it.

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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:08:50pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:09:09pm

Seeing how things are going for Jeb Bush these days, I propose a little change in his campaign logo.

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:09:37pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:10:40pm

re: #198 jaunte

Just received an email from Freedomworks celebrating ‘taking McCarthy down.’ We are at a critical moment here, I think.
— Karoli

RWNJ continuing to execute master plan of destroying GOP which will leave them with….

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:11:28pm

re: #198 jaunte

Another liberal libtard GOPer defeated.

/////

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Stuff Happens  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:12:15pm

re: #220 jaunte

I wonder what they demanded

brains…

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:12:47pm

re: #198 jaunte

FreedomWorks is still a thing?

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:13:07pm

re: #223 Stuff Happens

“We want you to force through our agenda!”
“That isn’t how any of this works, guys.”
“You’re out!”

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leftynyc  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:13:19pm

Someone really needs to remind Ben that the holocaust wouldn’t have happened if the Christians in Germany, France, Spain, Poland and everywhere else didn’t round up their Jews and serve them to hitler on a silver platter. See what he has to say about that. That bullshit about guns saving them makes me want to punch something.

BTW - leaving for Israel next week and if anyone has a restaurant we MUST eat at, I’m all ears. 5 nights in Jerusalem, 2 in Tzfat, 4 in Tel Aviv, 1 night in Eilat (to visit Petra the next day) and back to Tel Aviv for one night before we leave.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:13:24pm

re: #220 jaunte

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in case anyone is curious about who is a member of the House Freedom Caucus:
en.wikipedia.org

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:14:09pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

GOHMERT!

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:14:29pm

re: #223 Stuff Happens

brains…

At the Zombie Deli, they had Democrat brains & Republican brains in separate trays. Democrat brains were $1/lb while Republican brains were $1000/oz

Zombie customer yells WHY GOP BRAINS SO MUCH MONEYS!!!!

Zombie counter guy says HEY U KNOW HOW MUCH GOP BRAINS IT TAKES TO MAKE 1 OZ!!!!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:15:18pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

in case anyone is curious about who is a member of the House Freedom Caucus:
en.wikipedia.org

What about GOHMERT!! and Steve Hates Immigrants King?

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:15:29pm

re: #226 leftynyc

Someone really needs to remind Ben that the holocaust wouldn’t have happened if the Christians in Germany, France, Spain, Poland and everywhere else didn’t round up their Jews and serve them to hitler on a silver platter. See what he has to say about that. That bullshit about guns saving them makes me want to punch something.

BTW - leaving for Israel next week and if anyone has a restaurant we MUST eat at, I’m all ears. 5 nights in Jerusalem, 2 in Tzfat, 4 in Tel Aviv, 1 night in Eilat (to visit Petra the next day) and back to Tel Aviv for one night before we leave.

PAPAGAYU Brazilian Steak House in Jerusalem.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:15:49pm

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

THIS BULLSHIT AGAIN==>

[Embedded content]

Germans or Jews? Carson will probably go up in the polls since Republican voters appear to reward delusional commentary.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:16:42pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

in case anyone is curious about who is a member of the House Freedom Caucus:
en.wikipedia.org

There’s also a Liberty Caucus, in case the Freedom Caucus isn’t providing enough Liberty.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:17:49pm

Don’t forget the Tea Party Caucus!!

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:18:02pm

re: #233 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Featuring some of the same members
en.wikipedia.org

including GOHMERT!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:18:56pm

re: #235 jaunte

Featuring some of the same members
en.wikipedia.org

my congresscritter is in that one

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Emoprog Refugee  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:20:17pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

in case anyone is curious about who is a member of the House Freedom Caucus:
en.wikipedia.org

Thanks! I just wanted to know what important governing function the House Freedom Caucus served.

The House Freedom Caucus is a congressional caucus consisting of conservative Republican members of the United States House of Representatives.[6] It was formed by a group of Congressmen as a “smaller, more cohesive, more agile and more active” group of conservatives. Many members are also part of the conservative House group the Republican Study Committee.[7][8] According to its mission statement, “The House Freedom Caucus gives a voice to countless Americans who feel that Washington does not represent them. We support open, accountable and limited government, the Constitution and the rule of law, and policies that promote the liberty, safety and prosperity of all Americans.”[9] The caucus is sympathetic to the Tea Party movement.[10]

Other than being “agile,” “cohesively” and “actively” super-duper conservative (so, simultaneously agile and rigid? okay), I still don’t know what important governing function they serve, or what they do that’s so important that McCarthy couldn’t have delivered for them.

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:20:26pm

re: #226 leftynyc

Manta Ray in Tel Aviv. Lavan at the Jerusalem cinema (below Mt. Zion Hotel).

While in Jerusalem, get yourself to Machene Yehuda and check out the food vendors there - pick up herbs/spices and baked goods, especially chocolate rugelach or pita with olive oil and za’atar.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:21:26pm

Fun fact, and not without irony considering the current GOP situation: Mortal Kombat was first released in arcades exactly 23 years ago today…

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Shiplord Kirel  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:21:48pm

re: #203 The Vicious Babushka

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That’s a great caricature. Chaffetz really is kind of a skeevy-looking dude. I normally don’t fault people for their appearance but I think it’s ok this time because he actually is a skeevy dude.

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:22:24pm

re: #239 Eclectic Cyborg

I dropped a serious amount of coin on that game. Has it been that long? Sheesh.

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:23:41pm

re: #237 Emoprog Refugee

I still don’t know what important governing function they serve, or what they do that’s so important that McCarthy couldn’t have delivered for them.

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b_sharp  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:23:48pm

re: #241 lawhawk

I dropped a serious amount of coin on that game. Has it been that long? Sheesh.

The first signs of getting old are hitting you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:26:24pm
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leftynyc  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:27:27pm

re: #231 The Vicious Babushka

Thanks for the tip. I do love a good steak or rack of lamb.

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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:28:39pm

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:28:41pm
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leftynyc  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:29:20pm

re: #238 lawhawk

Thanks for the info. We already have one reservation at Mayeyuda which I understand is a restaurant at the market. Getting so excited. Haven’t been back to Israel in 20 years.

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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:30:24pm

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mike Huckabee says the race for speaker is “about burning the corrupt Washington political machine to the ground”

Ignoring completely, of course, that those trying to accomplish said burning are card-carrying members of said corrupt machine.

That’s as bad as a Fox News screaming head (take your pick, there are plenty) complaining about the ‘mainstream media.’

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:31:10pm

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Ron Fournier]Why doesn’t President Obama lead? Why can’t Obama be more like the Republicans?[/Ron Fournier]

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Bubblehead II  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:31:31pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:31:32pm

re: #249 makeitstop

Ignoring completely, of course, that those trying to accomplish said burning are card-carrying members of said corrupt machine.

That’s as bad as a Fox News screaming head (take your pick, there are plenty) complaining about the ‘mainstream media.’

Some people just want to watch the world burn.

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:31:35pm

McCarthy Withdrawal Shows House GOP Is Completely Failing Gov’t 101

“…McCarthy obviously saw what Boehner saw several weeks ago. He either would have had to meet at least some of the Freedom Caucus’ demands for high-level leadership and committee positions (the equivalent of ministries in a parliamentary system) and take-no-prisoners legislative tactics, tell the Freedom Caucus to go to hell, get Democrats to support him or decide not to run.
……
In a parliamentary government this would lead to a call for a new election. In the GOP-controlled House of Representatives, there’s just chaos.”
forbes.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:31:36pm

re: #246 WhatEVs

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Huckabee who famously gave a prisoner clemency because he bought his sap show about Christianity shouldn’t be talking about corruption. And yes Washington is our government like it or not.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:32:43pm

I honestly wish if these guys hate government so much that they would let people who actually appreciate it run it. You don’t see me applying for a job as a mathematician.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:33:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:33:41pm

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You are what you created Kev-o.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:34:12pm

re: #252 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Some people just want to watch the world burn.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:34:37pm

I don’t feel bad for the establishment at all. They cared about power more than getting shit done and welcomed in the Jordans and other assholes with welcome arms when they had their eyes on controlling the House.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:35:27pm

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow

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allegro  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:35:50pm

Republicans are ungovernable… Kinda refreshing to see some truth telling.

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Stuff Happens  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:37:01pm

re: #259 HappyWarrior

I don’t feel bad for the establishment at all. They cared about power more than getting shit done and welcomed in the Jordans and other assholes with welcome arms when they had their eyes on controlling the House.

Someone once said something about with power comes responsibility.

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Kragar  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:37:11pm

re: #233 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:37:25pm

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kevin McCarthy suggests House Republicans are ungovernable, may need to “hit rock bottom” t.co pic.twitter.com
— Judd Legum

Obama’s fault for dividing America, passing Obamacare…

////

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:37:37pm

re: #262 Stuff Happens

Someone once said something about with power comes responsibility.

Uncle Ben was a commie who didn’t use a gun to protect himself. //

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:38:16pm

re: #263 Kragar

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Now I am thinking of the Atheist arguments in the Go God Go trilogy on South Park. I think the Otters had the right idea. I don’t like crushing clams on my belly though as it’s too painful however.

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leftynyc  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:38:24pm

re: #259 HappyWarrior

I don’t feel bad for the establishment at all. They cared about power more than getting shit done and welcomed in the Jordans and other assholes with welcome arms when they had their eyes on controlling the House.

Me neither. They sucked up to the tea party which birthed Trump and now this mess. They’re getting exactly what they deserve.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:39:13pm

I am so far behind so I will catch up later but send kitten pictures, please. My MiL just cited Benghazi as for why she considers Fox the most accurate of the cable news.

/sob

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:39:39pm

re: #267 leftynyc

Me neither. They sucked up to the tea party which birthed Trump and now this mess. They’re getting exactly what they deserve.

All revolutions devour each other or so the old saying goes. They cared more about power than actually working with Obama because they didn’t have the balls to their party that Obama wasn’t Satan. It’s only going to get worse for them.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:40:28pm

Search For Adults Continues Among House Republic Party Members

mccarthy drops out citing lack of experience controlling kindergarteners

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nines09  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:40:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:41:13pm

re: #270 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Search For Adults Continues Among House Republic Party Members

mccarthy drops out citing lack of experience controlling kindergarteners

I had better luck coaching middle schoolers in basketball. Only one year of three did we not reach our goal of every guy scoring once.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:41:43pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:42:31pm

re: #272 HappyWarrior

I had better luck coaching middle schoolers in basketball. Only one year of three did we not reach our goal of every guy scoring once.

The most thrilling moment in sports for me this year was watching my daughter shoot a basket in a 6th grade game.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:42:41pm

re: #237 Emoprog Refugee

smaller, more cohesive, more agile and more active

do they practice scrum or kanban?

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leftynyc  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:42:59pm

re: #268 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I am so far behind so I will catch up later but send kitten pictures, please. My MiL just cited Benghazi as for why she considers Fox the most accurate of the cable news.

/sob

There was a video posted here sometime yesterday with a kitten copying mommy cat cleaning herself. I watched it a dozen times. I’ll try and find it for you.

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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:43:28pm

re: #268 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I am so far behind so I will catch up later but send kitten pictures, please. My MiL just cited Benghazi as for why she considers Fox the most accurate of the cable news.

/sob

You didn’t marry her.

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:43:51pm

So, when does the media begin blaming Democrats for this clusterfuck?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:44:29pm

re: #277 wrenchwench

I know, thank everything.

It was complete with the “when I was your age I was a liberal Democrat” and everything.

THANKFULLY I have to take the car to get new tires put on.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:44:41pm

re: #268 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I am so far behind so I will catch up later but send kitten pictures, please. My MiL just cited Benghazi as for why she considers Fox the most accurate of the cable news.

/sob

Your eyerolling muscles may get worn out.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:45:38pm

re: #279 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I know, thank everything.

It was complete with the “when I was your age I was a liberal Democrat” and everything.

THANKFULLY I have to take the car to get new tires put on.

I assume you didn’t ask if that was before she became senile./

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Franklin  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:45:57pm

re: #278 Targetpractice

So, when does the media begin blaming Democrats for this clusterfuck?

2008

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WhatEVs  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:45:59pm

re: #253 jaunte

McCarthy Withdrawal Shows House GOP Is Completely Failing Gov’t 101

Forbes.

Republican’s don’t know how to deal with what is now the U.S. equivalent of a parliamentary system of government.

Not counting Democrats, there are now three political parties in the House of Representatives. They all call themselves “Republicans” and caucus together but they so don’t play well together in the sandbox that they’re really different entities in an extremely fragile coalition.

The largest of these three parties is the “Boehners” - the more establishment and mainstream (relatively speaking, of course) group that’s thinks it’s job is to govern. They are about 150 Boehners, which means it doesn’t have enough votes to do anything without the support of the other two parties.

FORBES. The monster that the rich created.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:47:13pm

What we are witnessing is the beginning of the end of the Republican Party. It’s plop plopping and fizz fizzing like an Alka Seltzer tablet right before our eyes.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:47:13pm

re: #281 Big Beautiful Door

I assume you didn’t ask if that was before she became senile./

I do still need to get along with her.

Which I do fine as long as we don’t talk politics. Which is normally a hard and fast rule that I broke this morning why why why I should have bailed when my FiL did.

Anyway, really leaving. Thank you all, you’re helping a ton already. I may be back to vent more after, it helps.

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wrenchwench  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:47:19pm

re: #279 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I know, thank everything.

It was complete with the “when I was your age I was a liberal Democrat” and everything.

THANKFULLY I have to take the car to get new tires put on.

My godmother told me when I was 18 about how I’d be different when I’m older. I’m not.

She has dementia now, sorry to say.

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leftynyc  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:49:47pm

re: #268 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I am so far behind so I will catch up later but send kitten pictures, please. My MiL just cited Benghazi as for why she considers Fox the most accurate of the cable news.

/sob

With a hat tip to Wrenchwench for posting yesterday.

Hope it helps.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:50:49pm

re: #274 Big Beautiful Door

The most thrilling moment in sports for me this year was watching my daughter shoot a basket in a 6th grade game.

It’s a lot of fun. We had a couple games where one of the boys I coached was sinking down threes like a pro. He was in a zone that day. We were down 15 points at one point but those threes got us back in it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:52:53pm

re: #286 wrenchwench

My godmother told me when I was 18 about how I’d be different when I’m older. I’m not.

She has dementia now, sorry to say.

As I have gotten older I have become much more liberal. I was a big fan of Reagan as a teenager.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:56:23pm

re: #273 Charles Johnson

This could spectacularly blow up in The Rage Furby’s face if the affair rumor isn’t true.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 8, 2015 • 12:59:11pm

This is what Boehner has had to put up…

EDS, an HP Company ‘Cat Herders’

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CleverToad  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:00:22pm

re: #285 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Good luck with the tires, and wishing you patience with the MIL. We lost my MIL in 2007, sad to say, but I’m sure she’d be watching Fox these days as she was then. Loved her dearly, but she was an end-times believer who went to a church run by a flat-out Dominionist preacher. The congregation left the Southern Baptists because the SB were too liberal. Had to do a whole lotta tongue-biting when we visited her in Texas. Where I almost lost it was seeing the magazine on her coffee table that was touting an article called “Investing for the End Times.”

On the other hand, hubby says he grew up hearing the n-word tossed casually around in the Texas family. By the end of her life, she no longer used that word, and there are a few black families in their congregation. I suppose we take small hope where we can.

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leftynyc  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:01:05pm

re: #289 Big Beautiful Door

As I have gotten older I have become much more liberal. I was a big fan of Reagan as a teenager.

It may not be that you’re more liberal. My best friend was a republican when I met him - loved Reagan. But the cons lost him on the social issues when the religious right took over. The party left him. Same may have happened to you.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 8, 2015 • 1:03:35pm

re: #285 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I do still need to get along with her.

Which I do fine as long as we don’t talk politics. Which is normally a hard and fast rule that I broke this morning why why why I should have bailed when my FiL did.

Anyway, really leaving. Thank you all, you’re helping a ton already. I may be back to vent more after, it helps.

It’s been a year and a half, and the Older Boy’s Girlfriend STILL has not introduced him to her folks. He’s met both her sisters, and Mrs. FBW has met, and even hung out with her Mom, but she is afraid of introducing her liberal, atheist boyfriend, whose ASD gives him ‘filter issues’ to her Conservative Christian father who has anger issues.

I suspect she fears a matter/antimatter explosion.


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