Tech Note: The “Email an Article” Makeover, Now Mobile-Friendly

Thanks to MJML
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In the past few days I’ve been working on a part of the LGF site that’s been woefully neglected for too long: our “Email an Article” feature, which you get to by clicking the little envelope icon below each article — the one that looks like this:

Would you believe this code hasn’t been seriously worked on for 10 years?

In a way it’s kind of cool that it was still functional despite the lack of attention, but with the advent of mobile devices it really started to show its age. The idea of the feature is to send a nicely formatted HTML email that contains most of the article, with images and links and all that good stuff. (It also includes an alternate non-HTML version for people who don’t want HTML in their emails.)

But on mobile devices, this HTML code was … well … less than optimal. Not perfect. Oh, let’s face it, it sucked. On some mobile devices it looked OK, but was shrunken down to an unreadable tiny size because it wasn’t scaled to the mobile screen. On other mobile devices it looked flat out awful, because they didn’t support CSS properly, or a myriad of other reasons.

The thing about mobile HTML email is that it’s a real nightmare to code, with so many devices out there, each with its own quirks and bugs. That’s one reason why I hadn’t done much with the code for a long time, because it was a daunting task.

But I’m pleased to announce that I recently discovered an open source framework called MJML that makes all of these compatibility headaches disappear like magic. Instead of writing the HTML directly, you code it with MJML’s custom tags first, then compile it to the special HTML that works in emails. Here’s a sample of what the MJML code looks like:

<mjml>
   <mj-head>
     <mj-title>Hello MJML</mj-title>
   </mj-head>
   <mj-body>
     <mj-container>
       <mj-section>
         <mj-column>
           <mj-text>
             Hello World!
           </mj-text>
         </mj-column>
       </mj-section>
     </mj-container>
   </mj-body>
 </mjml>

The MJML framework gives us a vastly improved “Email an Article” feature that looks great on almost any mobile device or desktop computer. The HTML version now scales beautifully to fit the screen size of whatever device you’re using to view it, and it works even with the most troublesome email clients (I’m looking at you, Microsoft Outlook). And as a bonus, our emails now include links to share the articles to Facebook and Twitter.

I always like to end these Tech Notes with a tip for programmers, so here’s something I figured out while working with MJML that wasn’t obvious and wasn’t in their documentation.

Since I use PHP to generate the email for this feature, I build the MJML code as a string. The official docs for MJML only describe how to compile the code from a file on disk and write the resulting code back to the disk, but this seemed like way too much overhead. So I worked out a way to use PHP to pass a string into the MJML compiler and get back a string of compiled HTML code. And here it is:

<?php
$mjml = '[[ MJML CODE HERE ]]';
$html = trim(
	shell_exec(
		'echo -n ' . escapeshellarg($mjml) . ' | mjml -i -s -m'
	)
);
?>

This uses PHP’s shell_exec command to pipe the MJML string to the MJML command line compiler, and return the compiled code in the variable $html. The trim command is in there just in case there’s some white space at the beginning or end of the compiled code.

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466 comments

1
bratwurst  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:16:22pm

Stoopid libtard! Can’t you see Obama pardoning this criminal drove people to Trump?

But…um…Obama pretty much locked her up and threw away the ket in the first place.

Stoopid libtard!

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Timothy Watson  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:18:25pm

re: #1 bratwurst

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Stoopid libtard! Can’t you see Obama pardoning this criminal drove people to Trump?

But…um…Obama pretty much locked her up and threw away the ket in the first place.

Stoopid libtard!

Because as a liberal, I always go to editors at the WSJ when I need advice.

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3
Moebym  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:19:13pm

re: #1 bratwurst

I thought it was a commutation…? Oh, right. Republican Facts TM.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:27:55pm

Charles,

Are there any security concerns about using shell_exec?

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Targetpractice  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:32:51pm

re: #1 bratwurst

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Stoopid libtard! Can’t you see Obama pardoning this criminal drove people to Trump?

But…um…Obama pretty much locked her up and threw away the ket in the first place.

Stoopid libtard!

Well, he has a point, much of the hate that motivated the Bros to voting for Trump, voting Stein, or staying home was predicated on this idea that Obama was a warmongering monster as typified by his throwing Manning in jail and throwing away the key.

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:33:51pm

‘A feminist bursts at the opening of the figure of Donald Trump in the Madrid wax museum to the cry of “Grab them by the balls” ‘

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:43:01pm

Charles thanks this feature is going to help #resist.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:44:02pm

re: #6 wrenchwench

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‘A feminist bursts at the opening of the figure of Donald Trump in the Madrid wax museum …‘

Sounds messy.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:44:47pm
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Timothy Watson  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:47:48pm

re: #9 MsJ

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Don’t RWNJs hate the Girl Scouts? Something to do with the UN, Planned Parenthood, and George Soros?

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:50:33pm

re: #8 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Sounds messy.

‘Bing’ translation….

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electrotek  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:50:51pm

re: #6 wrenchwench

‘A feminist bursts at the opening of the figure of Donald Trump in the Madrid wax museum to the cry of “Grab them by the balls” ‘

You should have seen all the butthurt MRA’s in the comments section of The Guardian’s post and throwing out usual red herrings about Muslim men to deflect from Trump.

Facebook Post

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:51:02pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:52:36pm

re: #12 electrotek

Women in western countries are perfectly capable of protesting sexist men like Trump while pushing back against sexism inherent in some interpretations of Islamic doctrine. There is no either/or.

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nines09  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:53:00pm

re: #6 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

‘A feminist bursts at the opening of the figure of Donald Trump in the Madrid wax museum to the cry of “Grab them by the balls” ‘

In case anyone forgot or never saw performance theatre.

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electrotek  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:53:23pm

re: #14 Patricia Kayden

Women in western countries are perfectly capable of protesting sexist men like Trump while pushing back against sexism inherent in some interpretations of Islamic doctrine. There is no either/or.

And that’s what I keep trying to insist over and over, but it always falls on deaf ears to the Eliot Rodger-wannabes.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:53:55pm

re: #10 Timothy Watson

Don’t RWNJs hate the Girl Scouts? Something to do with the UN, Planned Parenthood, and George Soros?

They also don’t hate gay and transgender people enough.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:53:59pm

That’s cool used it to send a Page to NotApprovedByMPAA. Seems to work great.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:54:35pm

re: #6 wrenchwench

Might want to put an NSFW tag on that one.

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Arkansawyer  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:57:33pm

re: #16 electrotek

And that’s what I keep trying to insist over and over, but it always falls on deaf ears to the Eliot Rodger-wannabes.

“You shouldn’t ask for better, because it could always be worse”. I hate that bullshit.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Jan 17, 2017 • 2:58:09pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

Well it’s about damn time. I was worried white nose was going to wipe out all the bats in the country.

Now if the frogs can just develop a similar resistance to the fungus that’s killing all of them

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:02:51pm

Fuckface Von Clownstick’s madness be coming on like these beach umbrellas.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:04:46pm

Evening Lizardim.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:05:54pm

re: #23 gocart mozart

C’mon man, hide that shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:07:46pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

My little guys also say #resist or #ResistTheOrangeFungus:

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Targetpractice  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:08:25pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

“No, release me! I am the night!”

/

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:08:57pm

re: #21 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

[Embedded content]

Well it’s about damn time. I was worried white nose was going to wipe out all the bats in the country.

Now if the frogs can just develop a similar resistance to the fungus that’s killing all of them

My youngest brother and his wife are in the forefront of that save the frogs battle.

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:10:21pm

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

Might want to put an NSFW tag on that one.

Editing time has expired!

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Timothy Watson  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:11:24pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

“No, release me! I am the night!”

/

As that was my favorite show as a kid, I regret but one upding.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:15:20pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:15:35pm

Looks more like a Trump voter who just found out that the ACA is Obamacare.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:15:44pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

What did I miss?

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Emptor scriptor Remorse  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:16:07pm

re: #23 gocart mozart

Tacky

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:17:18pm

re: #33 thedopefishlives

What did I miss?

Chelsea Manning’s sentence has been commuted. Release is to be May 17th.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:18:19pm

re: #4 Timothy Watson

Charles,

Are there any security concerns about using shell_exec?

Nope.

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austin_blue  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:18:41pm

re: #32 Skip Intro

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Looks more like a Trump voter who just found out that the ACA is Obamacare.

Pink mist!

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:19:10pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Nope.

Caveat: Not if done properly. A bonehead could eff it up but good, if he/she tried.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:19:11pm

When the economy crashes …

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Bubblehead II  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:19:15pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

Fuckface Von Clownstick’s madness be coming on like these beach umbrellas.

And probable with the same unfortunate result

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:19:22pm

re: #29 wrenchwench

Well…at least I was on break when I looked at it.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:19:38pm

re: #35 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Chelsea Manning’s sentence has been commuted. Release is to be May 17th.

I’m not sure how I feel about that, to be honest.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:20:13pm

They come with fire, they come with axes. Gnawing, biting, breaking, hacking, burning! Destroyers and usurpers, curse them!

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Skip Intro  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:20:23pm

Former ‘Apprentice’ contestant accuses Donald Trump of unwanted sexual advances, files defamation suit

I hope she has good security. The Trumpshit are going to descend on her like vultures.

latimes.com

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Skip Intro  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:20:42pm

re: #42 thedopefishlives

I’m not sure how I feel about that, to be honest.

That makes two of us.

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:20:49pm

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

Well…at least I was on break when I looked at it.

Whew! Glad to hear or read.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:21:15pm

re: #42 thedopefishlives

I’m not sure how I feel about that, to be honest.

Paul “Let’s Fuck Grandma Over” Ryan almost went as far as to call Obama a traitor.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:21:37pm

re: #42 thedopefishlives

I’m not sure how I feel about that, to be honest.

I have no strong feelings about it either way. It is a commutation, not a pardon. I think that’s what makes it easier to have no opinion on it. At least for me.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:23:20pm

re: #38 thedopefishlives

Caveat: Not if done properly. A bonehead could eff it up but good, if he/she tried.

Yes - that’s why the $mjml variable is passed through the escapeshellarg() function, to make sure it can’t be used to execute any arbitrary shell commands.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:23:24pm
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Cheechako  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:24:10pm

re: #35 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Chelsea Manning’s sentence has been commuted. Release is to be May 17th.

Trump will probably issue an EO to reverse this decision.

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Skip Intro  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:24:32pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

In six months I’ll be looking forward to Ryan’s new complaint.

“Donald Trump’s treachery put American lives at risk and exposed some of our nation’s most sensitive secrets. “

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:24:50pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

Yes - that’s why the $mjml variable is passed through the escapeshellarg() function, to make sure it can’t be used to execute any arbitrary shell commands.

There’s also some server-side security as far as making sure that your PHP parser isn’t running with elevated privileges - preferably in its own sandbox.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:25:29pm

re: #51 Cheechako

Trump will probably issue an EO to reverse this decision.

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Can’t wait for the Bergdahl trial.

Ugh.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:26:22pm

re: #38 thedopefishlives

Caveat: Not if done properly. A bonehead could eff it up but good, if he/she tried.

Yeah, I know just enough PHP to be dangerous. :)

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:26:24pm

re: #53 thedopefishlives

There’s also some server-side security as far as making sure that your PHP parser isn’t running with elevated privileges - preferably in its own sandbox.

Yep, all that too.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:27:02pm

This is what’s coming down the pike with Betsy DeVos as Education Secretary.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:28:10pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

This is what’s coming down the pike with Betsy DeVos as Education Secretary.

In blessed Betsy’s America, the rich and poor alike will be free to pay for tuition, and the truly destitute can be educated by the church.

The ACA or Affordable Catechism Act…

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austin_blue  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:29:07pm

re: #48 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have no strong feelings about it either way. It is a commutation, not a pardon. I think that’s what makes it easier to have no opinion on it. At least for me.

I agree. The stuff she passed on was not above the level of “Secret/NoForn”. Relatively light-weight intel. It was a stupid for her to do, and it *did* embarrass us. And she has spent five years in Leavenworth, which is no picnic.

But Snowden stole some big bombshells. That *was* dangerous for NatSec.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:29:32pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Yep, all that too.

One thing that I don’t miss about moving to Platform as a Service cloud solutions is that I don’t have to deal with managing server security anymore. I have just enough knowledge of server configuration and deployment to be dangerous - and I mean that literally, in that I would not trust myself to roll out a production Web server as things stand today. Not to say I couldn’t learn, but it’s not in my wheelhouse.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:30:41pm

re: #50 Jebediah, RBG

Paul Ryan ✔ @SpeakerRyan
Chelsea Manning’s bra size put American lives at risk in Benghazi amirite fellas? and exposed (whoa, another pun!) some of our nation’s most sensitive, i.e. lubricated, secrets.

For my full statement on our Obamacare replacement go straight to hell ↓ and anal plugs at affordable prices for everyone, amen!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:32:07pm

re: #59 austin_blue

I agree. The stuff she passed on was not above the level of Secret/NoForn”. Relatively light-weight intel. It was a stupid for her to do, and it *did* embarrass us. And she has spent five years in Leavenworth, which is no picnic.

But Snowden stole some big bombshells. That *was* dangerous for NatSec.

And in Obama’s statement, he apparently makes it clear that he doesn’t see parallels between her case and Snowden’s, most notably since she has faced the legal system and Snowden has not.

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austin_blue  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:32:09pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

This is what’s coming down the pike with Betsy DeVos as Education Secretary.

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I have no love for Dominionists. Her family are nothing but, starting with her Blackwater brother and her dear old dad.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:32:19pm

re: #61 De Kolta Chair

Drumpf is about to be sworn in as President… I’m pretty sure we’re all already there.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:35:12pm

re: #64 thedopefishlives

Drumpf is about to be sworn in as President… I’m pretty sure we’re all already there.

Just to be sure, I sold all my pants last week. But the party was so worth it!

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:36:01pm

re: #65 De Kolta Chair

Just to be sure, I sold all my pants last week. But the party was so worth it!

Honey, where are my paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaants?

[Laugh track.]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:37:30pm
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Bubblehead II  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:37:55pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:37:59pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

BOOM!

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:39:29pm

What the fuck does that even mean?

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:39:59pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

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What the fuck does that even mean?

Something something something ILLUMINAUGHTY argle bargle.

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:41:15pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

I’m getting used to the new logo. I like that the top bar is shorter. However, in the Master Spy, the ‘on’ check mark and the ‘Show: [box] items’ sit on the top comment a bit. Also, if I pop up a comment using the ‘Posted by:’ link, the poster’s icon sits on their nic and the time partway (been that way since before Trump was elected, I think). Minor things of no consequence, but I still have AirDyne syndrome, maybe.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:41:20pm

re: #64 thedopefishlives

Drumpf is about to be sworn in as President… I’m pretty sure we’re all already there.

Paraphrasing a damn good writer, these are the best of times or the worst of times.

Fuck Trump. Let’s make this the best of times.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:41:59pm

re: #73 De Kolta Chair

Paraphrasing a damn good writer, these are the best of times or the worst of times.

Fuck Trump. Let’s make this the best of times.

I intend to. With liberal amounts of alcohol.

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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:42:19pm

I agree those who break our laws and put our citizens at risk should be held accountable. I believe police officers who murder citizens and file false reports to cover their asses to be held accountable. I expect assholes who take over federal property, destroy it, and threaten federal employees with snipers aiming at their chests to be held accountable. I expect politicians to be held accountable for gross lies and passage of laws that directly threaten the health and well-being of our citizens to be held accountable.

Manning was held accountable and has paid a high price, one that will continue to be paid throughout her life. When might we expect the others to be held to account?

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:42:38pm

re: #72 wrenchwench

I’m getting used to the new logo. I like that the top bar is shorter. However, in the Master Spy, the ‘on’ check mark and the ‘Show: [box] items’ sit on the top comment a bit. Also, if I pop up a comment using the ‘Posted by:’ link, the poster’s icon sits on their nic and the time partway (been that way since before Trump was elected, I think). Minor things of no consequence, but I still have AirDyne syndrome, maybe.

The checkbox and dropdown show up in the middle of the title on the Article Spy.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:43:46pm

re: #74 thedopefishlives

I did my most copious drinking during Reagan. And acid, and peyote, and ‘shrooms, and etc. etc. etc.

But it’s all about the hops now.

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:44:26pm

re: #76 thedopefishlives

The checkbox and dropdown show up in the middle of the title on the Article Spy.

Funny, I live in the Master Spy and almost never see the article spy.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:45:05pm

re: #77 De Kolta Chair

I did my my copious drinking during during Reagan. And acid, and peyote, and etc.

Well, and I’ve mentioned this before, but Mrs. Fish and I grew up in extremely conservative, religious fundamentalist households. We’ve, err, cut loose a little bit in recent months. I’m sure we’ll dial it back a bit… eventually.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:45:56pm

re: #78 wrenchwench

Funny, I live in the Master Spy and almost never see the article spy.

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The Master Spy seems too much like the Matrix to me. I would completely lose track of everything and be left a brain-dead vegetable.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:46:16pm

re: #74 thedopefishlives

I intend to. With liberal amounts of alcohol.

I’ve been rethinking my teetotalism.

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electrotek  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:47:39pm

re: #74 thedopefishlives

I intend to. With liberal amounts of alcohol.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:48:09pm

re: #82 Timothy Watson

I’ve been rethinking my teetotalism.

All things in moderation. Even moderation itself.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:50:01pm

re: #83 electrotek

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:50:01pm

re: #79 thedopefishlives

Mio amico, imho the secret to having a badass fun life is moderation, but for gawd’s sake don’t overdo it!

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:51:04pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

Why is the “liberal” NYT employing this homophobic hack? What does sexual orientation have to do with Manning’s actions? Does every stupid thing Douthat does/says center around his sexuality?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:51:28pm

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:51:29pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

Sadly even this may be too optimistic. She has already stated she thinks poor children are well-served by learning all about the “exciting” mining industry.

Make child labor great again!

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:51:30pm

re: #76 thedopefishlives

The checkbox and dropdown show up in the middle of the title on the Article Spy.

Just looked. Now THERE’s a thing of consequence! And the dropdown (thanks for the word for it) is on TOP of the title!

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BeachDem  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:52:05pm

If only…

An open letter to Trump from the US press corps

We decide how much airtime to give your spokespeople and surrogates…we reserve the right, in the most egregious cases, to ban them from our outlets.

…When you or your surrogates say or tweet something that is demonstrably wrong, we will say so, repeatedly.

We’re going to work together…So, when you shout down or ignore a reporter at a press conference who has said something you don’t like, you’re going to face a unified front…

cjr.org

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:52:18pm

re: #87 Patricia Kayden

Why is the “liberal” NYT employing this homophobic hack?

Blackmail is my guess. That goes for that hack David Brooks as well.

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gocart mozart  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:52:53pm
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electrotek  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:52:55pm

re: #85 teleskiguy

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Pizzaman - Trippin’ On Sunshine (original video edit)

FYI, Pizzaman = Fatboy Slim, aka Norman Cook

Now if you excuse me, I be trippin’ on sunshine yo

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:55:18pm

re: #93 gocart mozart

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Wow. Some people really have a lot of nerve, huh? How many people are still dying in Iraq because she played cheerleader for Bush/Cheney lies?

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:56:35pm

re: #95 Patricia Kayden

Wow. Some people really have a lot of nerve, huh? How many people are still dying in Iraq because she played cheerleader for Bush/Cheney lies?

Yep!
Holy lack of awareness, Batman.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:56:38pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:57:12pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Related: History repeats itself. Historians repeat each other.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:57:28pm

re: #88 Eric The Fruit Bat

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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 3:59:05pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

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gocart mozart  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:01:07pm
Wow. Some people really have a lot of nerve, huh? How many people are still dying in Iraq because she played cheerleader for Bush/Cheney lies?

iraqbodycount.org
nymag.com

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:01:08pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:04:22pm

re: #98 thedopefishlives

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Related: History repeats itself. Historians repeat each other.

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Moebym  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:04:22pm

I stared into the abyss, and it stared back at me.

(I waded into the far-leftie blogosphere. Should’ve known it was trouble when I saw the guy once helped run FiredogLake.)

I guess everyone has to flirt with the dark side once in a while.

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:06:09pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

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What the fuck does that even mean?

Most likely that it is no coincidence a transgender cannot be trusted with secrets. They have to protect their identity and so can be threatened.

Same excuse of why you can’t have gays in the military.

Ross is just trying to be clever, but the typical conservative always is revealed.

It’s why you can’t trust them. /

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:06:46pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:06:49pm

re: #104 Moebym

I stared into the abyss, and it stared back at me.

(I waded into the far-leftie blogosphere.)

I guess everyone flirts with the dark side once in a while.

The cookies are tasty.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:06:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:08:42pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:08:49pm

re: #93 gocart mozart

Is that really the kind of calculation that that particular person wants to make?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:08:57pm
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:09:00pm

re: #1 bratwurst

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:09:31pm

jeebus

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:10:11pm
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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:11:27pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Skip Intro  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:11:28pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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She looks like she skins dogs for fun.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:12:04pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:12:57pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Lieberman’s ex-colleagues, i.e. the GOP, are I believe already on board.

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makeitstop  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:13:41pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Yeah, fuck Holy Joe, too.

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:15:59pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:16:09pm

re: #83 electrotek

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:16:22pm
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MsJ  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:16:34pm

re: #35 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Chelsea Manning’s sentence has been commuted. Release is to be May 17th.

Isn’t Assange or Snowden supposed to fall on their sword now?

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electrotek  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:17:59pm

re: #121 ObserverArt

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:18:03pm

re: #123 MsJ

Isn’t Assange or Snowden supposed to fall on their sword now?

As if either of those cowards would dare face justice for their respective mountains of shit. For all the bravery they’re made out to have by the dudebros, they’ve both always come across as legendary fraidycats.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:18:28pm

re: #123 MsJ

Isn’t Assange or Snowden supposed to fall on their sword now?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:18:35pm

Here is a Scots poem in response to the Vogon Inaugural Poem:

From Scotland With Love
(For Joseph Charles MacKenzie)

MacKenzie, you poor man’s McGonagall,
rank mediocrity of wank and shite
that Burns wid ca’ a bawheid’s doggerel,
Ah’ll spit a rhyme for ye: Ye cannae write.

A decorated poet? Aye! A dick
drawn on yer foreheid wi an inky wid
be fine and fitting, a humungous prick
and fuckin big block capitals: NAE GUID!

Naw, wait! Fuck drawing! Wi black biro and
a set of compasses, ah wid tattoo
yer fuckin travesty of verse by hand
aw o’er yer skelped-arse face in blue

of Picts and fitba’ strips, the Scottish flag,
so’s every one ae us Jock Tamson’s Weans
at wan swatch ae yer ugly mug wid gag,
boak like at reekin pants wi squittery stains.

Yer rhyme for Trump’s inauguration wank?
Huv ye drunk his spunk? D’ye fuckin swallow?
Like pus squeezed fae a beilin pluke, it’s rank.
Ye’ve pisht on the Muses and Apollo.

Best of McLeod? Don’t make me fuckin laugh.
Yer tangerine nazi rapeclown’s fuckin loathed
by Scots who mind when rebels wurnae naff
gold-shittered gobshite Emperors unclothed.

Wallace and Bruce? Did ye watch Braveheart then?
Rob Roy wi Liam Neeson? Yer a joke!
Try John Maclean. Nae bonny hills and glens;
try our Red Clyde, ye fascist fuck, and choke.

It’s fit, but, ah suppose, yer numpty’s praise
shid come in scansion painful as the worst,
the world’s worst, poor McGonagall: the days
aheid, we’ll aw be sufferin, fuckin curst.

And aye, yer Tumshie Trump Train’s on its way
Towards it’s ain disastrous silvery Tay,
And yer best hope, McKenzie, is yer shitty fuckin rhyme
Will no be remembered—
wi yon prissy-lipped and fright-wigged
fake-tanned baby-handit Nazi bandit’s
treasonous dismantling of the USA—
Will no be remembered—
wi yon tragic bawbag’s Special Day,
remembered wi Traitor Trump’s Inauguration,
remembered wi the Death of a Nation,
remembered as a literary punch bowl turd,
to poetry as Trump is to the presidency: a crime.
—remembered for,
in the world’s worst poet’s words,
a very long time.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:19:26pm

re: #48 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have no strong feelings about it either way. It is a commutation, not a pardon. I think that’s what makes it easier to have no opinion on it. At least for me.

And me. Manning is an idiot. Snowden’s treachery was vastly worse.

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:19:43pm

re: #88 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:20:03pm

re: #72 wrenchwench

I’m getting used to the new logo. I like that the top bar is shorter. However, in the Master Spy, the ‘on’ check mark and the ‘Show: [box] items’ sit on the top comment a bit.

This is now fixed. I’m looking at that other display problem next.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:20:19pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

This is now fixed. I’m looking at that other display problem next.

Yay!

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:21:14pm

re: #121 ObserverArt

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:21:25pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

This is now fixed. I’m looking at that other display problem next.

Upon refresh it jumped into place! Thanks!

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MAGATARD PRIME  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:21:39pm

Bice: Man accuses Clarke of harassment at airport

In the one-page complaint, Black says he saw Clarke — decked out in a Cowboys baseball hat and shirt — on the American Airlines flight at noon Sunday but wasn’t sure it was the sheriff because he wasn’t wearing his signature Stetson. Clarke was flying first class, while Black had a seat in the back of the plane.

“As I passed him,” Black wrote. “I asked if he was Sheriff Clarke, and he responded in the affirmative. I shook my head as I was moving on to my seat near the back of the plane. From behind, he asked if I had a problem. I shook my head ‘no’ again and continued to my seat.”

Black, who first told his story on the Riverwest Neighborhood’s Facebook page, thought that was the end of that. The freelance videographer said he was returning to Milwaukee from a wedding in Dallas.

But when he got off the plane, Black said, he was met by a group of six uniformed deputies and two dogs, all of whom were accompanied by the sheriff. Black said he was then escorted to the waiting area and questioned by two of the deputies, who said Clarke had told them that Black had made “some remarks” to the sheriff on the plane.

Black said he burst out laughing when he saw his “welcoming party” because he knew what was happening. In the interview, he said he was asked who he was, why he was traveling to Dallas and what he thought of Clarke — a question he said he refused to answer.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:21:40pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

This is now fixed. I’m looking at that other display problem next.

You’re the man, boss.

In related news, I have a Production deployment coming up in a few hours. One downside to doing this shit for a living is that I have to go through a rigorous formal process to execute a deployment, instead of just testing my change and pushing it live.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:21:56pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:22:35pm

re: #100 allegro

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:24:37pm

Oh look, an annoying pedant commenting on my page!

Uh, Gene Cernan was *the last* human to walk on the Moon, asshole.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:25:43pm

re: #91 BeachDem

If only…

An open letter to Trump from the US press corps

cjr.org

Why do I not believe a word of that? Perhaps each word individually has meaning, but collectively? Pfffft.

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:25:45pm

re: #135 thedopefishlives

You’re the man, boss.

In related news, I have a Production deployment coming up in a few hours. One downside to doing this shit for a living is that I have to go through a rigorous formal process to execute a deployment, instead of just testing my change and pushing it live.

I just roll the AirDyne out the door and watch the customers heft it into the back of the pick up. Customer #2 rolled up just in time to help load it. No formality nor rigorousness!

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:25:56pm

Now I know how Charles feels when people tweet at you when they haven’t even read the article. Pretty annoying.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:26:43pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

Oh look, an annoying pedant commenting on my page!

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Uh, Gene Cernan was *the last* human to walk on the Moon, asshole.

Pedantic Twitter is my least favorite Twitter, except for Nazi Twitter.

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Targetpractice  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:27:02pm

The wingnuts losing their minds over the commutation of Manning’s sentence also think Wikileaks (which actually released the intel Manning stole) are awesome for “leaking” the DNC’s emails and think Snowden (who did far worse than Manning) was awesome for calling attention to government spying.

You can’t make this shit up.

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jaunte  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:27:28pm

Discussion on Chris Matthews’ show right now about how the PDB briefers will have to dumb down their information to make it Trump-acceptable.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:27:34pm

re: #140 wrenchwench

I just roll the AirDyne out the door and watch the customers heft it into the back of the pick up. Customer #2 rolled up just in time to help load it. No formality nor rigorousness!

Yeah, when I have to take the system down for an hour and roll an upgraded mobile application to 550 users across the country, I don’t have a choice but to be formal and rigorous. That’s the pitfalls of doing corporate IT development.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:27:43pm

The other Twitter that’s no fun is “You’re SURPRISED about that?” Twitter, when you didn’t express surprise at all.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:28:14pm

re: #144 jaunte

Discussion on Chris Matthews’ show right now about how the PDB briefers will have to dumb down their information to make it Trump-acceptable.

Hasn’t he already said he won’t read them?

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:28:37pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

It’s funny when a pedant fucks up like that. You said “last man to walk on the moon” - completely correct. Pedant corrects you as if you said “last surviving moonwalker.”
Shouldn’t pedants read more carefully before correcting others?

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:28:41pm

Coming soon to this idyllic scene! Drilling derricks, more logging roads, a coal fired power plant, slurry ponds, pipelines!

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jaunte  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:28:42pm

re: #147 thedopefishlives

Maybe he’ll look at colorful posters.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:29:17pm

re: #150 jaunte

Maybe he’ll look at colorful posters.

“Now, if I hand you a RED piece of paper, then you just go right through that security door over there into the basement and let the adults handle everything, okay?”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:29:23pm

re: #129 ObserverArt

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Archangelus  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:29:24pm

re: #123 MsJ

Isn’t Assange or Snowden supposed to fall on their sword now?

Don’t hold your breath…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:30:37pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

Oh look, an annoying pedant commenting on my page!

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Uh, Gene Cernan was *the last* human to walk on the Moon, asshole.

I had enough of that nonsense here the day he died.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:31:50pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:31:57pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Pedantic Twitter is my least favorite Twitter, except for Nazi Twitter.

Things like that are why I try and watch what I say when I’m tweeting at people I don’t normally interact with.

I’m trying for an “if in doubt that this adds anything to the conversation, don’t tweet it” rule of thumb.

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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:32:45pm

re: #147 thedopefishlives

Hasn’t he already said he won’t read them?

They act it out with puppets.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:32:45pm

re: #144 jaunte

Also essentially questioning whether Trump believes in objective facts. Gee I can’t help but think these questions would have been more appropriate BEFORE we elected a treasonous dunce as leader of the free world.

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jaunte  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:33:04pm

“Just to be clear, on the moon you kind of bounce, or shuffle, not truly walking.”

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:33:25pm

re: #160 jaunte

“Just to be clear, on the moon you kind of bounce, or shuffle, not truly walking.”

Yes, but is it the Truffle Shuffle or the Super Bowl Shuffle?

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KingKenrod  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:33:34pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

Oh look, an annoying pedant commenting on my page!

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Uh, Gene Cernan was *the last* human to walk on the Moon, asshole.

I’m pretty non-violent, but I would like to kick that guy down a flight of stairs.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:34:03pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:34:08pm

re: #148 Jebediah, RBG

It’s funny when a pedant fucks up like that. You said “last man to walk on the moon” - completely correct. Pedant corrects you as if you said “last surviving moonwalker.”
Shouldn’t pedants read more carefully before correcting others?

We had a big discussion yesterday about the word last used by NASA in that notice. It centered around people not wanting to use all the definitions of the word.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:34:52pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:35:08pm

re: #164 ObserverArt

We had a big discussion yesterday about the word last used by NASA in that notice. It centered around people not wanting to use all the definitions of the word.

Conversations I am okay for having missed.

The train ride was really pretty.

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Skip Intro  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:35:55pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

When does the Bundy mob take it over and declare it a toll road?

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BeachDem  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:36:42pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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AP story doesn’t mention this little fact:

Lieberman, Introducing DeVos, Fails To Disclose That His Law Firm Represents Trump

Most recently, Lieberman’s law firm represented Trump by threatening the New York Times for publishing pieces of Trump’s tax return.

huffingtonpost.com

Joe Lieberman—once a slime, always a slime.

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MAGATARD PRIME  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:36:46pm

Betsy DeVos tied to millions spent in Wisconsin politics

Michigan’s Betsy DeVos has had an outsized influence on politics and education in Wisconsin — especially the expansion of taxpayer-funded vouchers for students to attend private schools.

Now DeVos is President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for U.S. Education Secretary, and observers expect her to lessen the federal role in public education and vigorously advocate to expand access to voucher and charter schools in other states just like she has done here.

“Betsy DeVos had a lot to do with the expansion of voucher reform across the country and I think that’s because she worked closely with the groundbreaking program early on,” said Jim Bender, president of School Choice Wisconsin, referring to Milwaukee’s voucher program, the country’s first.

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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:37:08pm

re: #167 Skip Intro

When does the Bundy mob take it over and declare it a toll road?

Once we the People build some nice buildings and stock the fridge with French vanilla creamer.

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:37:22pm

re: #152 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Moebym  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:37:35pm

re: #153 Archangelus

Don’t hold your breath…

They’re too drunk on their self-importance.

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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:38:33pm

re: #169 Amory Blaine

“Betsy DeVos had a lot to do with the expansion of voucher reform across the country and I think that’s because she worked closely with the groundbreaking program early on,” said Jim Bender, president of School Choice Wisconsin, referring to Milwaukee’s voucher program, the country’s first.

Yeah groundbreaking. Like a major earthquake.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:39:00pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:40:00pm

re: #168 BeachDem

Gore was an idiot for choosing him as VP. He was a slithering pool of slime way back then. Probably cost him the election.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:40:04pm

Night Lizards. See you in the A.M.

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:40:16pm

re: #166 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Conversations I am okay for having missed.

The train ride was really pretty.

I was thinking of you!

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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:40:18pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

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And another face we can fantasize about punching.

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gocart mozart  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:41:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:41:18pm

Neil Armstrong was first.
Eugene Cernan was last.

End of argument.

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Skip Intro  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:41:34pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

I don’t know who that is but I’m betting CNN hires him as a Senior Political Analyst.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:41:42pm

re: #177 ObserverArt

I was thinking of you!

It was good. I’m still on a success high. And also a Benedryl high, probably. I swear it hits me so much worse these days. Plus the complete lack of sleep because the alarm went off at 3:15 and 3:45 for the two race days.

I have to figure out where to display my medals now.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:42:01pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

Are those all his copies of Mein Kampf stacked on the coffee table?

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:42:02pm

re: #81 gocart mozart

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I don’t know why they truncated the definition, since the original fits the Trump administration like a glove.

Kakistocracy (kækɪsˈtɑkɹəsi) is a term meaning a state or country run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens.

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jaunte  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:42:24pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:42:54pm
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Timothy Watson  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:43:17pm

re: #183 InfidelOfFreedom

Are those all his copies of Mein Kampf stacked on the coffee table?

“The Uprooting of European Identity”

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jaunte  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:43:45pm

As Amway takes over our public schools.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:44:05pm

re: #187 Timothy Watson

“The Uprooting of European Identity”

Ah, so a sequel?

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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:45:10pm

re: #182 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It was good. I’m still on a success high. And also a Benedryl high, probably. I swear it hits me so much worse these days. Plus the complete lack of sleep because the alarm went off at 3:15 and 3:45 for the two race days.

I have to figure out where to display my medals now.

Incorporate them into a cool cross stitch design. :)

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:45:49pm

My senator Cory Gardner is such a chowderhead.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:46:37pm

re: #189 InfidelOfFreedom

Ah, so a sequel?

Something that Amazon has no problems selling.

Fuckers.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:47:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:47:19pm

re: #188 jaunte

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As Amway takes over our public schools.

Whenever there is competition, there will be big winners.
And there will be huge losers.

Guess which ones Betsy likes?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:48:37pm

re: #171 ObserverArt

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:48:53pm

re: #190 allegro

Incorporate them into a cool cross stitch design. :)

Haha, these suckers are BIG.

You can barely see my mouse there for scale.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:49:01pm

re: #188 jaunte

As SCAmway takes over our public schools.

FTFY

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:50:36pm
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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:51:09pm

re: #1 bratwurst

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Stoopid libtard! Can’t you see Obama pardoning this criminal drove people to Trump?

But…um…Obama pretty much locked her up and threw away the ket in the first place.

Stoopid libtard!

First rule of grok club. Get your goddamned facts right.

Stephens lies or ignores that PARDON≠COMMUTATION. They are not the same thing. Not even close.

The DOJ has a handy dandy FAQ that makes this quite explicit.

So many right wingers are all in a bunch over Manning getting her sentence commuted. It’s hilarious really. They take this seriously, but don’t have an issue with Wikileaks manipulating and dumping stolen emails that gave Trump the win. Their idea of natsec is partisan to its core.

Sure, a few will claim that it is proof Obama doesn’t care about the IC or natsec, but this isn’t a pardon (again, I repeat myself). Her guilt is on the record - the sentence was reduced for multiple factors - condition of her imprisonment likely being one.

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Skip Intro  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:51:36pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

She/he/it is describing Trump to a ‘T’.

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MAGATARD PRIME  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:52:13pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

They’re getting antsy to start the Great Oppression.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:54:16pm

re: #134 Amory Blaine

Wow. I’m glad he filed a complaint and plans to hire an attorney. He did nothing wrong. This is what we can expect in Trump’s America. Straight up fascism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:54:53pm
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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:54:59pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

My guess is it has something to do with Obama and ACA approval numbers hitting historic highs while the Donald is sinking into his self-made swamp.

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gocart mozart  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:56:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:57:42pm

oooh…

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:57:52pm

re: #188 jaunte

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As Amway takes over our public schools.

“Hey, kids—ABC…. You know what it stands for?”

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:58:01pm

re: #205 gocart mozart

His President asked a foreign government to hack his political opponent’s computer and is a-ok with Russia’s interference with our election. He needs to take several seats.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:58:40pm

re: #6 wrenchwench

I think “Grab Back” might actually be a pretty good slogan.

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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:59:03pm

re: #204 InfidelOfFreedom

My guess is it has something to do with Obama and ACA approval numbers hitting historic highs while the Donald is sinking into his self-made swamp sewer.

Swamps are very cool places - full of life, vibrant, rich in flora and critters. They nurture and protect. Yanno, everything that Trump et al are not. But then, even a sewer is more useful and probably less stinky.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:59:25pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

Oh look, an annoying pedant commenting on my page!

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Uh, Gene Cernan was *the last* human to walk on the Moon, asshole.

I grew up in Bellwood, IL seeing signs saying we were the home of Gene Cernan.

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gocart mozart  Jan 17, 2017 • 4:59:57pm
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MAGATARD PRIME  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:01:37pm

From somebody:

The electoral system failed to connect the will of the American people with the result of the election. Trump is technically the next President, in the same way that OJ Simpson was technically not guilty of murder.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:03:25pm

re: #210 allegro

Swamps are very cool places - full of life, vibrant, rich in flora and critters. They nurture and protect. Yanno, everything that Trump et al are not. But then, even a sewer is more useful and probably less stinky.

True. I’d been thinking lately that “tar pit” was a more apt description of Trump’s cabal.

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gocart mozart  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:03:47pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sen. Chris Murphy formerly Rep. Chris Murphy (Newtown/Sandy Hook)

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MAGATARD PRIME  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:03:49pm

re: #207 Barefoot Grin

“Hey, kids—ABC…. You know what it stands for?”

Always be celling!!

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jaunte  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:03:50pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:05:44pm

re: #216 Amory Blaine

Always be celling!!

“Now scram. I gotta get to the State House to pick up some checks.”

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:05:55pm

re: #210 allegro

Drain swamp; replace with hog lagoon.

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Targetpractice  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:06:29pm

re: #186 teleskiguy

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Meanwhile, Sen. Gardner is totally silent on the president-elect calling the intel community a bunch of liars and accusing them of releasing “fake news” to make him look bad.

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BeachDem  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:06:47pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Even without a 2nd round it’s painfully obvious DeVos is clueless and driven by her own agenda.

Which means she’ll be confirmed post haste. Sigh.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:07:46pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:08:59pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

That sounds good but I would need a Pepcid AC chaser. :/

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:09:21pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

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Targetpractice  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:09:35pm

re: #217 jaunte

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Yeah, there’s few things as ridiculous as the suggestion that a billionaire is “selfless” for taking a job that they can use to further enrich themselves. As if they’re swearing off money for the rest of their lives. They’re not joining a monastery/convent, you morons.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:10:19pm

re: #215 gocart mozart

Sen. Chris Murphy formerly Rep. Chris Murphy (Newtown/Sandy Hook)

yes, which makes her grizzly bear argument even more stupid

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:11:25pm

Not sure anyone has caught that show The Mick on *ugh* Fox. But it’s hysterical. The middle kid/nephew reminds me of what Trump must have been like at that age. It’s on tonight at 7:30 Central.

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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:11:43pm

re: #219 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Drain swamp; replace with hog lagoon.

I’m thinking more like toxic chemical dumps.

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b.d.  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:12:07pm

Has Julian walked this back yet or does he know that Donald, following guidance, will award him The Medal of Freedom/

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:12:17pm

re: #195 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:12:23pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:12:57pm

Did a single one of these motherfuckers complaining about Chelsea Manning’s commutation make a peep about Scooter Libby? How about the pardons of everyone involved in Iran Contra?

No?

Then they should shut the fuck up.

Nope, seriously, just a giant glass of frothy shut the fuck up.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:13:35pm

Betsy DeVos is a fucking moron but Trump chose her because she *looks* like a “schoolma’am” with the glasses & everything.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:14:09pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:14:24pm

Christ on a ski lift

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Targetpractice  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:15:11pm

re: #229 b.d.

Has Julian walked this back yet or does he know that Donald, following guidance, will award him The Medal of Freedom/

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I expect Julian to move the goalposts by saying that Manning’s sentence was commuted, he wasn’t pardoned, so he’s still being punished when he should be hailed as a hero. And, as such, Assange will not be turning himself in…because he still fears being punished for his crimes.

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bratwurst  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:15:37pm

Sure are a lot of recently converted Wikileaks fans who have suddenly returned to the virulent anti-Wikileaks position in the last few hours.

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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:15:54pm

re: #235 The Vicious Babushka

Christ on a ski lift

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Only states’ rights apply to the born.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:15:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:16:26pm

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

Betsy DeVos is a fucking moron but Trump chose her because she *looks* like a “schoolma’am” with the glasses & everything.

and she has access to lots of money

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:18:20pm

I’m not sure Sarah Palin will go for the “disability laws should be left to the states,” what with her disabled youngest son.

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:18:47pm

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

Betsy DeVos is a fucking moron but Trump chose her because she *looks* like a “schoolma’am” with the glasses & everything.

And gave him the answers he wants to hear. Gut Education Department, and put the thumb down on the scales - making sure that minorities have even tougher time getting ahead.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:19:19pm
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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:19:24pm

re: #242 teleskiguy

Yeah, she would. Why? Because she’s in a position to pay for it thanks to wingnut welfare.

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TedStriker  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:19:51pm

re: #238 gocart mozart

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NSFW song behind the spoiler button that describes this to a T:

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:20:10pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

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Which is exactly how the Rage Furby wants it… Destroy the entire government, one agency at a time.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:20:59pm
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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:21:06pm

re: #242 teleskiguy

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I’m not sure Sarah Palin will go for the “disability laws should be left to the states,” what with her disabled youngest son.

Because that’s as far as Conservative empathy reaches. They only move to the side of good on issues if someone they love is hurt by toxic right-wing policy. The rest of us can FOAD.

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Moebym  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:21:30pm

re: #244 InfidelOfFreedom

I’d tend to disagree. Lying comes naturally to him.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:23:06pm

re: #232 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

And for the record I have hated fucking Wikileaks since (1) they fucked up redacting documents that inculded the names of interpreters; (2) since they were somehow fucking okay with Israel Shamir—Holocaust denier, conspiracy seller, Russian nationalist—until a big enough smell arose that they disavowed him.

The closed nature of their reception process and their airing process nullifies the entire point of ethical leaks. Instead of protecting leakers, they’re a clearing house of secret information that they get to distribute at their leisure…making them not at all journalists, and very similar to intelligence operatives (both signals and human). It’s always been a shitty concept, because there’s no reason to trust them as middlemen other than they say “trust us.”

Fucking stupid. You don’t just do the civil disobedience thing because it has good martyrdom optics, you do it because that direct channel of documents demonstrates your good faith.

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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:24:31pm

re: #144 jaunte

Discussion on Chris Matthews’ show right now about how the PDB briefers will have to dumb down their information to make it Trump-acceptable.

More to the point, everything in the Presidential Daily Briefing will be known to Russia five minutes later once Trump is in office. That’s going to really complicate preparing these briefings.

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gocart mozart  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:25:16pm
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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:25:51pm
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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:26:16pm

re: #252 EPR-radar

More to the point, everything in the Presidential Daily Briefing will be known to Russia five minutes later once Trump is in office. That’s going to really complicate preparing these briefings.

I kinda disagree. I think Putin will know it first, letting Trump’s handlers know what to tell the Infant in Chief.

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:29:37pm

re: #220 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, Sen. Gardner is totally silent on the president-elect calling the intel community a bunch of liars and accusing them of releasing “fake news” to make him look bad.

“Fake news” is the new bad word for the Republicans and Trump. It’s like the little kid that learns to say fuck and enjoys the panicked reaction and/or disgust of others when they say it.

Hey, I just realized…it is two four-letter words together. Ooooooh!

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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:30:18pm

re: #185 jaunte

Betsy DeVos is incapable of commenting intelligently on public schools, since she is so totally opposed to the institution itself.

Her idiotic comment about children fending off grizzly bears probably started out as enthusiasm for the wiping out of heretics by the Church Militant and was then watered down into nonsense because ‘ixnay on the theocracy until after the confirmation hearings’

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gocart mozart  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:30:39pm
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electrotek  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:31:40pm

In case anyone missed it from the previous thread. Shit’s fucked.

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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:31:47pm

Trump is a mortal threat to life on the planet.

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gocart mozart  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:32:22pm

Congress should pass a law mandating Trump hold an accordian every time he speaks because they just should dammit!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:32:41pm
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BeachDem  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:32:56pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

and she has access to lots of money

Why the fuck didn’t he pick her for energy, if he had to pick her at all? At least she has some actual experience in it, and believes in wind and clean water (or so the descriptions of her companies say.)

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:33:01pm

re: #232 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Did a single one of these motherfuckers complaining about Chelsea Manning’s commutation make a peep about Scooter Libby? How about the pardons of everyone involved in Iran Contra?

No?

Then they should shut the fuck up.

Nope, seriously, just a giant glass of frothy shut the fuck up.

Ollie North is still out being an ass for the Republicans and many see him as a hero.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:33:15pm

re: #230 ObserverArt

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Targetpractice  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:33:51pm

re: #263 Charles Johnson

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This is what it looks like when a party puts their pocket books over their country.

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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:34:30pm

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

Betsy DeVos is a fucking moron but Trump chose her because she *looks* like a “schoolma’am” with the glasses & everything.

Trump chose Betsy DeVos because DeVos is probably the single most powerful and effective opponent of public education in the US.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:35:35pm

re: #264 BeachDem

Why the fuck didn’t he pick her for energy, if he had to pick her at all? At least she has some actual experience in it, and believes in wind and clean water (or so the descriptions of her companies say.)

Only if she can make a profit by selling air & clean water to people whose communities don’t have it because she destroyed it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:35:44pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:35:51pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:35:52pm

re: #256 teleskiguy

Reminds me of the cover of an actual book ;-)

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:37:15pm
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Belafon  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:37:20pm

re: #270 The Vicious Babushka

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:37:48pm

re: #265 ObserverArt

Fuck him especially.

I find it disgusting that he a “commentator” on anything.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:38:41pm

re: #268 EPR-radar

Republicans have understood for decades that the base of their party is the uneducated and they have worked very hard to build that base.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:39:58pm

re: #273 Charles Johnson

We live in dark times, which call for dark beers.

(c)The Dark Beers Council of North America

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BeachDem  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:40:00pm

re: #269 The Vicious Babushka

Only if she can make a profit by selling air & clean water to people whose communities don’t have it because she destroyed it.

Well, when you put it THAT way. Picky, picky.
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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:40:05pm

Yikes.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:40:21pm

The mother of one of my wife’s coworkers had her sentence commuted by Obama today. The mother went along with her second husband, basically not saying anything to him or about him, and after her third conviction in 2001, she was given life. The coworker was raised by her grandparents since she was eight. The husband didn’t receive a commutation.

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bratwurst  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:40:56pm

The crazy thing is that Betsy DeVos being associated with a family that has been annoying the piss out of millions of people with “multi-level marketing” for two generations is the LEAST of her problems.

And I am not kidding…having a co-worker into Amway is among the most annoying workplace experiences you can have.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:41:27pm

such entitlement…

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:41:55pm

re: #277 De Kolta Chair

We live in dark times, which call for dark beers.

(c)The Dark Beers Council of North America

A Russian Imperial Stout, perhaps?

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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:42:41pm

re: #276 InfidelOfFreedom

Republicans have understood for decades that the base of their party is the uneducated and they have worked very hard to build that base.

There used to be general agreement that publican education in the US was a good idea. That ended with the decision in Brown v. Board of Education. Now that the alignment of the two parties along pro-racist and anti-racist lines is basically complete, Republicans have no use for public education.

Along the way, they have found that the stupider and more evil the electorate is, the better Republicans do in elections. Therefore Fox News and hate radio.

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:42:49pm

re: #264 BeachDem

Why the fuck didn’t he pick her for energy, if he had to pick her at all? At least she has some actual experience in it, and believes in wind and clean water (or so the descriptions of her companies say.)

I think you just answered your own question. Like Charles is saying, you have to hate the administration you are being picked to lead.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:42:49pm

re: #279 InfidelOfFreedom

Yikes.

“What did you learn in school today sweety?”

“That everything is up for grabs by the highest bidder.”

“I knew I should’ve voted for Clinton.”

“No shit mom.”

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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:43:22pm

re: #279 InfidelOfFreedom

Yikes.

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What Betsey wants: Religion in schools, no elected school boards, no teachers unions, no freedom of curriculum

No doubt a really dumb question, but without school boards and teachers unions who sets the curriculum over which no one has freedom?

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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:44:44pm

re: #287 allegro

What Betsey wants: Religion in schools, no elected school boards, no teachers unions, no freedom of curriculum

No doubt a really dumb question, but without school boards and teachers unions who sets the curriculum over which no one has freedom?

The committee for the promotion of virtue and the prevention of vice, to be established in the US shortly.

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makeitstop  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:45:03pm

re: #287 allegro

What Betsey wants: Religion in schools, no elected school boards, no teachers unions, no freedom of curriculum

No doubt a really dumb question, but without school boards and teachers unions who sets the curriculum over which no one has freedom?

Texas School Board.

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Skip Intro  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:45:05pm

re: #287 allegro

The only purpose public schools will have is to train new Amway salespeople.

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BeachDem  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:45:21pm

re: #285 ObserverArt

I think you just answered your own question. Like Charles is saying, you have to hate the administration you are being picked to lead.

Yeah—after I re-read what I wrote, I realized the error of my ways—thinking that the yam would do anything that wasn’t counter-productive to being sane/kind/productive or beneficial to anyone other than him and his.

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Cheechako  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:45:39pm

Democrats raise concern about possible links between Betsy DeVos and student debt collection agency

By Danielle Douglas-Gabriel, The Washington Post

Education Secretary nominee Betsy DeVos and her husband have extensive financial holdings through their private investment and management firm, RDV Corporation. The firm, where DeVos once served as director, has financed real estate acquisitions, telecom companies and online charter schools, among other things. But one particular deal is creating concern on Capitol Hill.

RDV is affiliated with LMF WF Portfolio, a limited liability corporation listed in regulatory filings as one of several firms involved in a $147 million loan to Performant Financial Corp., a debt collection agency in business with the Education Department.

Twenty-three percent of Performant’s revenue is directly tied to its dealings with the Education Department, which awarded the company 14 contracts worth more than $20 million in 2016, according to regulatory filings and government documents. The company lost out on a recent contract bid with the department and is now protesting the decision with the Government Accountability Office, which can dismiss the dispute if the department reverses course.

More at the link.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:46:30pm

re: #283 InfidelOfFreedom

A Russian Imperial Stout, perhaps?

North Coast Rasputin.

I doubt Trump has ever given public education half a thought. Someone said to him, DeVos, and he said, oh yeah, rich family, sure…..

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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:46:47pm

re: #290 Skip Intro

The only purpose public schools will have is to train new Amway salespeople.

That’s a best case scenario. More likely any public schools that are permitted to exist after DeVos has her way with them will be wingnut indoctrination centers.

A good fictional analogy would be Umbridge in charge of Hogwarts.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:47:25pm

re: #293 Barefoot Grin

North Coast Rasputin.

I doubt Trump has ever given public education half a thought. Someone said to him, DeVos, and he said, oh yeah, rich family, sure…..

Old Rasputin.

We got married just down the road from the brewery, and had a mini-keg of it brought in special for the reception as it is one of mr. klys’s favorite beers.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:47:33pm

re: #289 makeitstop

Texas School Board.

Interestingly enough, Texas School Boards will be the ones to fight this. We have hundreds of independent school districts that like to emphasize independent.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:47:59pm

re: #290 Skip Intro

The only purpose public schools will have is to train new Amway salespeople.

The sane states won’t give up real public education.
There will be a fight, and the crazies won’t win in states where the education system works,

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:48:29pm

re: #294 Charles Johnson

Who will try, and fail.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:49:26pm

re: #290 Skip Intro

The only purpose public schools will have is to train new Amway salespeople.

and cannon fodder

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:49:51pm

re: #263 Charles Johnson

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Too bloody right!! Back when the Bush Administration was in full swing and doing stupid stuff left and right, I said I felt like I was trapped in a car with a friend who’d had too many drinks but insisted on driving, and who just laughed every time I pointed out hazards.

NOW I feel like I’m trapped on a bus with a maniac at the wheel, speeding toward the edge of a cliff over a 1000 foot drop into molten lava.

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gocart mozart  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:50:03pm
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BeachDem  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:50:28pm

re: #287 allegro

What Betsey wants: Religion in schools, no elected school boards, no teachers unions, no freedom of curriculum

No doubt a really dumb question, but without school boards and teachers unions who sets the curriculum over which no one has freedom?

My guess would be that whatever private money-grubbing corp. that runs the school will set the curriculum.

This graph in her wiki is one of the most frightening things I’ve ever read.
DeVos, in contrast to the idea that the U.S. public education system should be maintained as a civic institution, views education as an industry that should be opened up to entrepreneurs and innovators, and she has stated that education is “a closed system, a closed industry, a closed market. It’s a monopoly, a dead end.

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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:50:35pm

re: #297 Belafon

Interestingly enough, Texas School Boards will be the ones to fight this. We have hundreds of independent school districts that like to emphasize independent.

Isn’t there a state level textbook selection board in Texas that is usually packed with creationist loons? That board seems to be one of the stronger RWNJ fortresses in the culture war.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:50:51pm

re: #296 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Old Rasputin.

We got married just down the road from the brewery, and had a mini-keg of it brought in special for the reception as it is one of mr. klys’s favorite beers.

Good stuff. Especially on a rainy day like today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:51:00pm

and I repeat myself, but Betsy DeVos STILL OWES $5.3 million to the state of Ohio for a fine dating back to 2008 for campaign finance violations.

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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:51:17pm

re: #298 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

The sane states won’t give up real public education.
There will be a fight, and the crazies won’t win in states where the education system works,

Sane states won’t because they know that companies go where the educated population is, to draw employees from.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:52:04pm

re: #296 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Old Rasputin.

We got married just down the road from the brewery, and had a mini-keg of it brought in special for the reception as it is one of mr. klys’s favorite beers.

That’s right. Thanks.

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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:52:18pm

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

and I repeat myself, but Betsy DeVos STILL OWES $5.3 million to the state of Ohio for a fine dating back to 2008 for campaign finance violations.

You don’t get to be a rich piece of shit like Betsy DeVos by paying the fines for your crimes. IOKIYAR, as always.

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No Depression  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:52:24pm

re: #235 The Vicious Babushka

Christ on a ski lift

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As a person with a disability, I only have one thing to say: GO FUCK YOURSELF, BETSY!

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:52:52pm

I used LGF’s Tweet button for a storm for the first time. Worked like a charm.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:56:07pm

re: #304 EPR-radar

Isn’t there a state level textbook selection board in Texas that is usually packed with creationist loons? That board seems to be one of the stronger RWNJ fortresses in the culture war.

Yes, but they still haven’t won the “get creationism in the classroom” game.

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:56:13pm

re: #266 Eric The Fruit Bat

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:56:56pm

re: #284 EPR-radar

Along the way, they have found that the stupider and more evil the electorate is, the better Republicans do in elections. Therefore Fox News and hate radio.

Far, far more sinister: the kind of religious schools they want will produce children with an ethos that does not match current understandings of personal freedom and Constitutional rights.

How “smart” they are in testing sense, or in whatever practical field they end up pursuing, what will be entirely different is their sense of how to be American.

Freedom of press versus taboos about criticizing those who speak with God’s authority?
Freedom of speech versus blasphemy (broadly interpreted)?
Right to privacy versus the sanctity of married, monogamous sex aimed at procreation?
Et cetera.

Take a look at a place like Saudi Arabia: the people aren’t stupid, they also aren’t uneducated. But what they are is boxed inside an ethos instilled into them by the collaboration of state and religious institutions, in which there’s no such thing as absolute rights, let alone equal rights. Individual dissenters might pop up, but the majority can win just through inertia. And when truly loud dissent happens, part of the ethos is that those people deserve to be stepped on by the force of the state.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:57:07pm

In the interest of public sanity, push the button Frank…

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TedStriker  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:57:16pm

re: #287 allegro

What Betsey wants: Religion in schools, no elected school boards, no teachers unions, no freedom of curriculum

No doubt a really dumb question, but without school boards and teachers unions who sets the curriculum over which no one has freedom?

God, of course…

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Targetpractice  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:57:21pm

re: #303 BeachDem

My guess would be that whatever private money-grubbing corp. that runs the school will set the curriculum.

This graph in her wiki is one of the most frightening things I’ve ever read.
DeVos, in contrast to the idea that the U.S. public education system should be maintained as a civic institution, views education as an industry that should be opened up to entrepreneurs and innovators, and she has stated that education is “a closed system, a closed industry, a closed market. It’s a monopoly, a dead end.

Translation: Schools should be laboratories for private business, with students used as guinea pigs for companies looking for closed systems to test their new products. Look for rules and regs removing junk food from schools to be reversed, as the DeVos DOE argues that schools should be able to cover budgetary shortfalls by basically selling off access to the highest bidders.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:57:22pm

Good news on the bear safety front!

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austin_blue  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:58:13pm

re: #304 EPR-radar

Isn’t there a state level textbook selection board in Texas that is usually packed with creationist loons? That board seems to be one of the RWNJs stronger fortresses in the culture war.

There was, but many of them have been voted off of the Board. There are still some crazies, but the back-door textbooks that have tried to be adopted by the loons have pretty much been rejected in the last two or three years. On that level, at least, sanity is holding it’s own.

The big problem this year year is the Legislature is on this biennium and vouchers, charters, and choice will all be up for approval legislatively, while State public school spending will try to be slashed.

And it’s raining like hell again. Damn occluded fronts…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 5:58:26pm

re: #314 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Far, far more sinister: the kind of religious schools they want will produce children with an ethos that does not match current understandings of personal freedom and Constitutional rights.

They won’t even produce children with an ethos that even remotely resembles Christ’s teachings.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:00:27pm

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

INDEED

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:00:51pm

re: #319 austin_blue

There was, but many of them have been off of the Board. There are still some crazies, but the back-door textbooks that have tried to be adopted by the loons have pretty much been rejected in the last two or three years. On that level, at least, sanity is holding it’s own.

The big problem this year year is the Legislature is on this biennium and vouchers, charters, and choice will all be up for approval legislatively, while State public school spending will try to be slashed.

And it’s raining like hell again. Damn occluded fronts…

Once again, the first religion of Texas is business. They do some questionable things here to maximize profits, but their goal will always be to maximize profits. They destroy the education system here, and they won’t be able to attract companies from California.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:01:29pm

re: #318 InfidelOfFreedom

Good news on the bear safety front!

A quick search reveals no fatal bear attacks near schools since 1933

SEE?!? GUNS WORK!!! Now excuse my while I clap my hands to keep away the tigers!

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Skip Intro  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:01:38pm

re: #301 Blind Frog Belly White

Too bloody right!! Back when the Bush Administration was in full swing and doing stupid stuff left and right, I said I felt like I was trapped in a car with a friend who’d had too many drinks but insisted on driving, and who just laughed every time I pointed out hazards.

NOW I feel like I’m trapped on a bus with a maniac at the wheel, speeding toward the edge of a cliff over a 1000 foot drop into molten lava.

Reminds me of my favorite Thomas Jefferson quote:

Being an atheist is like being the only sober person in the car and they won’t let you drive.

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austin_blue  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:03:56pm

re: #324 Skip Intro

Reminds me of my favorite Thomas Jefferson quote:

Being an atheist is like being the only sober person in the car and they won’t let you drive.

Is that little Tommy Jefferson from Julliard?

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:05:56pm

Later Lizards…got some typesetting to get done before I conk out for the night.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:06:27pm
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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:06:32pm

re: #324 Skip Intro

In fairness, Thomas Jefferson was a notoriously shitty driver.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:06:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:07:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:08:43pm
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Skip Intro  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:09:03pm

re: #329 De Kolta Chair

Never Trump’ national-security Republicans fear they have been blacklisted

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Profiles in courage, principles of steel, every one of them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:09:07pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:09:09pm

“Flick says he saw some grizzly bears near Pulaski’s candy store!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:10:17pm

re: #328 InfidelOfFreedom

In fairness, Thomas Jefferson was a notoriously shitty driver.

And back then, everyone was a little bit drunk, pretty much all the time. You couldn’t drink the water. Not and avoid dysentery.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:10:41pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Maybe this whole thing is just a huge misunderstanding over what “bear arms” refers to?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:10:47pm

re: #334 Blind Frog Belly White

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“Flick says he saw some grizzly bears near Pulaski’s candy store!”

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Sarah Palin may want to start rethinking her Mama Grizzly shtick.

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MAGATARD PRIME  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:11:01pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:11:41pm

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Rex Tillerson pick for Secretary of State made no sense to me, until I realized that there’s a potential deal in the works between Exxon and Russia worth billions.

This explains everything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:12:03pm

re: #339 EPR-radar

The Rex Tillerson pick for Secretary of State made no sense to me, until I realized that there’s a potential deal in the works between Exxon and Russia worth billions.

This explains everything.

That is totally it.

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Skip Intro  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:12:13pm

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

“A team, the likes of which has never been assembled.” Well, he sure got that right.

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Targetpractice  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:13:13pm

4 years of “running the government like a business” should be interesting, considering how wingnuts love to get pissed when a business jacks up prices, artificially controls supplies, and screws over its customers to raise its profit margins.

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electrotek  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:13:26pm

What’s this crap about Lindsay Lohan converting to Islam?

And why the fuck should people care if she did or not?

I don’t recall anyone making a big fuss over Jenna Jameson converting to Judaism and then wingnutism afterwards.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:14:11pm

re: #341 Skip Intro

“A team, the likes of which has never been assembled.” Well, he sure got that right.

“I want rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists.”

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thedopefishlives  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:14:25pm

re: #345 Blind Frog Belly White

“I want rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists.”

But not the Irish.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:14:27pm

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:15:58pm

re: #240 Charles Johnson

The better to destroy federal agencies and drown government in a bathtub.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:16:22pm

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

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austin_blue  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:16:57pm

re: #339 EPR-radar

The Rex Tillerson pick for Secretary of State made no sense to me, until I realized that there’s a potential deal in the works between Exxon and Russia worth billions.

This explains everything.

And it’s on hold because of the Crimea/Ukraine sanctions. Rex is a champin’ at the bit.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:17:50pm

re: #349 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

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But before we defund the schools we have to waste ten of millions on lawsuits defending stupid laws.

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BeachDem  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:18:11pm

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well, he did say one true thing (but I don’t think he should be bragging about it)

We have put together a team, I think the likes of which has never been assembled.

Yep—the uniqueness of his team is our worst fucking nightmare.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:18:42pm

re: #348 Patricia Kayden

The better to destroy federal agencies and drown government in a bathtub.

They don’t want to drown it until they’ve squeezed all the money out of it first, in the form of vouchers for education, free land for oil exploration, military supply contracts, etc.

Once they’ve reduced it to a husk, THEN they can drown it. Or butcher it for stew, like the hen who doesn’t lay anymore.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:19:17pm

re: #344 electrotek

What’s this crap about Lindsay Lohan converting to Islam?

And why the fuck should people care if she did or not?

I don’t recall anyone making a big fuss over Jenna Jameson converting to Judaism and then wingnutism afterwards.

If Lindsay can find some boundaries in religion, then good for her. She’s another person I describe in terms of the world being too big for some people.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:19:49pm

Later lizards

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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:20:58pm

re: #350 austin_blue

And it’s on hold because of the Crimea/Ukraine sanctions. Rex is a champin’ at the bit.

Trump gets in, sanctions vs. Russia end, great piles of money go to Russia, Putin now has funds for his warmongering in Eastern Europe, Russian tanks move out, Trump plays dead.

That’s just one of the Trump-caused disasters waiting to happen.

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electrotek  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:21:05pm

re: #354 Belafon

If Lindsay can find some boundaries in religion, then good for her. She’s another person I describe in terms of the world being too big for some people.

I’m skeptical because she’s becoming a shill for Erdogan’s regime and has been known to wax poetics about his party, even in the face of rising authoritarianism.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:23:12pm

re: #357 electrotek

I’m skeptical because she’s becoming a shill for Erdogan’s regime and has been known to wax poetics about his party, even in the face of rising authoritarianism.

Well, that sucks.

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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:24:10pm

re: #352 BeachDem

Well, he did say one true thing (but I don’t think he should be bragging about it)

We have put together a team, I think the likes of which has never been assembled.

Yep—the uniqueness of his team is our worst fucking nightmare.

“There has never been a more wretched hive of scum and villainy”

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austin_blue  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:24:32pm

re: #356 EPR-radar

Trump gets in, sanctions vs. Russia end, great piles of money go to Russia, Putin now has funds for his warmongering in Eastern Europe, Russian tanks move out, Trump plays dead.

That’s just one of the Trump-caused disasters waiting to happen.

And that the survivable scenario. Another involves Article 50 and a nuclear exchange, which won’t be any fun at all.

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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:24:45pm

Just saw this at another web site. Use it every time you see some Teahadi stealing the Gadsen Flag:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:26:55pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:26:56pm

Rod Dreher is having a special snowflake meltdown that Obama is using his long, hard, black pardon power and shoving it down Dreher’s lily white virgin throat…particularly with regard to Chelsea Manning.

There is a reason that Dante puts traitors in the lowest circle of the Inferno: because no one is safe if they have to worry about their own comrades betraying them to the enemy. I don’t care that what Bradley Manning revealed was, in part, military wrongdoing. If he felt so strongly about it, he ought to have been willing to take the punishment for his crime. He put the lives of many people at risk, and severely damaged the ability of men and women under arms to trust each other. In a not too distant age, he would have been executed.

Instead, he got prison — and he also got sob-story liberals like The New York Times to run pieces about how agonizing it was for him not to be able to masquerade as a woman while in jail, for treason

Of course, the last sentence is the real tell, since for Rod it is always about the transgender aspect of any story if a trans person is within a mile of it happening.

I wish to God Rod would just come out of the fucking closet and get some heels and a skirt at this point.

Special psychotic asshole comment award goes to perennial favorite Lord Karth:

Lord Karth says:
January 17, 2017 at 8:22 pm

The only “therapy” the spy Manning deserves is a bullet in the back of the neck.

Or we could be artistic and have him impaled on an oaken stake. I’ll take either one.

Your servant,

Lord Karth

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electrotek  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:27:34pm

re: #358 Belafon

Well, that sucks.

The Daily Beast

In a predictably off-kilter interview with Turkish TV network Haberturk, also last October, Lohan praised the Turkish strongman’s approach to an attempted coup that had left more than 2,100 people injured and 300 people dead. Lohan mused, “Erdogan did really well and his people, really admiring and respecting him, as the first elected president. This is a big deal.” For some perspective, the Turkish leader who Lohan is essentially Kellyanne Conway-ing for has been accused of restricting the freedoms of his constituents and instituting authoritarian practices. It was during this same interview that Lohan criticized the American response to her carrying a copy of the Quran, opining, “In Turkey you have free will as a woman, it’s amazing here, you can do what you want and it’s accepted, whereas I am in America and I am holding the Quran and I am the devil.” (Note: This could not be further from the truth.)

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:27:46pm

re: #361 William Lewis

Honey Badger don’t give a shit!

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darthstar  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:27:59pm

So my dreams of building the greatest meth lab in the world got dashed against the rocks today when I was turned down for one box of Claritin-D 24. They come in 15 packs. So every two weeks I go pick up another box for my wife who has allergies, and because my office is above a Walgreens it makes sense for me to go. And they fucking denied me.

Breaking Sad…or Breaking Pathetic.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:29:58pm

re: #365 teleskiguy

ahem…mongoose

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Anymouse  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:30:05pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

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Is Jessica one of your former readers?

Moreover, I don’t think she knows what the word “traitor” means. It is not the antonym of “conservative” or “wingnut.”

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MAGATARD PRIME  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:30:52pm

Re-segregating the schools while skimming taxpayer money used to educate the poor. Well done, america. I know more than a few lower middle class people that take “advantage” of the ~$8,000 subsidy so they can isolate themselves in religious schools away from “those people”.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:31:34pm

re: #366 darthstar

Failure to smurf? Damn.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:31:40pm

re: #313 ObserverArt

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Anymouse  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:33:11pm

re: #239 allegro

Only states’ rights apply to the born.

Dixie conservatives.

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gocart mozart  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:33:38pm
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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:33:47pm

So about that great team…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:35:17pm

re: #374 InfidelOfFreedom

wow, you can really see his bald spot peeking through.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:36:35pm

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

wow, you can really see his bald spot peeking through.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:36:37pm

OMFG

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austin_blue  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:37:42pm

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

wow, you can really see his bald spot peeking through.

NO YOU CAN’T! HE DOESN’T HAVE ONE!

He has great hair. Perfect hair. And the best head.

And the best brain, too.

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darthstar  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:38:31pm

re: #376 teleskiguy

Like a prick with ears.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:39:02pm

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMFG

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OK I need a drink. Drinks. A bottle…

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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:39:07pm

Driftglass with some thoughts on what Trump’s inaugural address might be like, if Trump’s KKKlown Krew can find a speechwriter who can plagiarize.driftglass.blogspot.com

…Let the word go forth from this time and place, to millionaire and billionaire alike, that the torch has been passed back to an older generation of Americans — born privileged, brainwashed by Fox, bitter, peevish and bigoted, ignorant as fuck and proud of it — and unwilling to witness or permit the continued spread of tolerance and human rights which has recently made our nation double-plus-ungreat, and committed today to kleptocracy at home and chaos around the world.

Let every corporation know, whether banking or petroleum, that I shall make the chumps that elected me pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any crony, oppose any fucking do-gooder to assure maximum profits for us all…

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austin_blue  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:39:27pm

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMFG

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See, this is what I love. Class! Real class.

( i just spit up a little)

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Anymouse  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:40:14pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

Mr. Johnson wrote, in response to a rant about the Clinton family, “What got these delusional dimwits so worked up today?”

My guess would be the New York Observer’s entirely false piece about the Clinton Global Initiative shutting down, which spread like wildfire across the wingnut blogosphere today (and got picked up by Bloomberg).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:41:37pm

Stunning: Maggie Hassan (who has a disabled son) realizes that DeVos doesn’t know the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act exists.

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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:43:41pm

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMFG

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Can’t let the cameras see Lincoln weeping on his chair…

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calochortus  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:46:18pm

re: #383 Anymouse

Mr. Johnson wrote, in response to a rant about the Clinton family, “What got these delusional dimwits so worked up today?”

My guess would be the New York Observer’s entirely false piece about the Clinton Global Initiative shutting down, which spread like wildfire across the wingnut blogosphere today (and got picked up by Bloomberg).

Freepers were on it yesterday, so you know it can’t be true.

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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:46:47pm

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just another reminder that the sane part of the US is just like the whale in the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy that was unfortunate enough to materialize two miles up in the air. The big wet splat is scheduled for Friday Jan 20.

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Danack  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:49:38pm

re: #238 gocart mozart

A 22-year (old) sex worker….had sex with Donald Trump… in 2011.

The current year is 2017….someone who is 22 now, would have been either 16 or 17 in 2011.

That seems kind of a big deal?

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Anymouse  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:51:11pm

re: #287 allegro

What Betsey wants: Religion in schools, no elected school boards, no teachers unions, no freedom of curriculum

No doubt a really dumb question, but without school boards and teachers unions who sets the curriculum over which no one has freedom?

The owner of the school.

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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:52:59pm

re: #388 Danack

The current year is 2017….someone who is 22 now, would have been either 16 or 17 in 2011.

That seems kind of a big deal?

Not so. To put it very crudely, Trump could rape a child to death on the White House lawn and Republicans wouldn’t give a shit. Swing voters would care deeply about it until the next distraction came along, 5 minutes later.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:55:15pm
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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:55:38pm

re: #388 Danack

The current year is 2017….someone who is 22 now, would have been either 16 or 17 in 2011.

That seems kind of a big deal?

Age of Consent in the Russian Federation was raised from 14 to 16 in 2003.

en.wikipedia.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:55:55pm

Betsy DeVos admits to Sen. Tim Kaine that she does not support holding charter schools “equally accountable” as public schools.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:56:44pm

I mean, why are women even in college with men anyway? /s

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:57:15pm

re: #390 EPR-radar

Not so. To put it very crudely, Trump could rape a child to death on the White House lawn and Republicans wouldn’t give a shit. Swing voters would care deeply about it until the next distraction came along, 5 minutes later.

Hillary’s emails get another investigation and Chris Cillizza at the Washington Post is very concerned!

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InfidelOfFreedom  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:57:34pm

re: #392 William Lewis

Age of Consent in the Russian Federation was raised from 14 to 16 in 2003.

en.wikipedia.org

Do sex tourism laws apply here?

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 17, 2017 • 6:58:01pm

re: #379 darthstar

Like a prick with ears.

Or as the construction workers used to say about their foreman: red on the head like a dick on a dog….

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Anymouse  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:00:05pm

My wife passed along this link via FetLife (you get your news where you can find it now)

christianitytoday.com

Russia’s ban on evangelising (other than the Russian Orthodox Church) is now in effect.

The ban also includes obtaining buildings or holding private religious services in homes.

This is what happens when one church gains political power.

And this is why secular organisations here work so hard to prevent a religious group from taking over the US government.

There’s more to people like Mike Pence and Betsy DeVos than simply trying to destroy the branch of government they are in charge of, and this would be one of those things.

Yesterday, Russia’s new anti-terrorism laws, which restrict Christians from evangelizing outside of their churches, went into effect.

The “Yarovaya package” requires missionaries to have permits, makes house churches illegal, and limits religious activity to registered church buildings, among other restrictions. Individuals who disobey could be fined up to $780, while organizations could be fined more than $15,000.

Forum 18 offers an analysis of the laws and their ramifications for Protestants and other non-Orthodox believers. World Watch Monitor compiled the worried reactions of Russian evangelical leaders and concerned observers.

The new laws will “create conditions for the repression of all Christians,” wrote Russia’s Baptist Council of Churches in an open letter. “Any person who mentions their religious view or reflections out loud or puts them in writing, without the relevant documents, could be accused of ‘illegal missionary activity.’”

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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:00:38pm

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kaine is good. He didn’t let her pass with a meaningless statement. Most likely won’t help but I’m impressed.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:01:01pm

re: #392 William Lewis

Age of Consent in the Russian Federation was raised from 14 to 16 in 2003.

en.wikipedia.org

That reminds me…

I was freaked the fuck out yesterday when, in a fit of nostalgia for bad 80’s pop, I went back to look a stuff from Samantha Fox.

Damn.

Her own mother sent lingerie photos of her to a page 3 nude daily when she was 16 and she started doing topless shoots before she even turned 17.

What the hell do you say to that? 16 is legal for soft core porn in the UK. XXX hard core too, I guess.

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allegro  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:01:25pm

re: #394 InfidelOfFreedom

I mean, why are women even in college with men anyway? /s

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So we can pull them up a peg with some meaningful competition.

/not actually

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:01:35pm

Sen. Elizabeth Warren finds Betsy DeVos has no experience managing student loan programs, never took out a loan & never had a child who did.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:01:45pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:04:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:05:02pm
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Anymouse  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:05:29pm

re: #303 BeachDem

My guess would be that whatever private money-grubbing corp. that runs the school will set the curriculum.

This graph in her wiki is one of the most frightening things I’ve ever read.
DeVos, in contrast to the idea that the U.S. public education system should be maintained as a civic institution, views education as an industry that should be opened up to entrepreneurs and innovators, and she has stated that education is “a closed system, a closed industry, a closed market. It’s a monopoly, a dead end.

And again, libertarian conservatives do not understand how capitalism works. No one prevents any private school from competing with public schools.

What they want is a monopoly themselves.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:08:54pm
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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:09:48pm

re: #396 InfidelOfFreedom

Do sex tourism laws apply here?

Depends when they were passed. It isn’t a crime before the law exists.

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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:10:19pm

re: #406 Anymouse

And again, libertarian conservatives do not understand how capitalism works. No one prevents any private school from competing with public schools.

What they want is a monopoly themselves.

Private schools are going to have a hard time competing with public schools as long as people can’t opt out of paying their school taxes.

I don’t see this as a problem.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:10:23pm

Shots fired.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:13:18pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:16:14pm

My father is a public school teacher, has been since 1975. As his only son I have to say that I’m absolutely appalled by the DeVos hearings today. Our education system will go straight to hell under this fanatic’s tenure.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:16:40pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:17:47pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:22:43pm

re: #408 William Lewis

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:23:27pm
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Danack  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:24:42pm

re: #411 teleskiguy

Ignoring the politics of the hearing, the Democrat’s appear to have their shit together for once.

Not only are the questions getting to the heart of the matter, they have their leader in the senate tweeting out links to video of the events, as they want people to see it, within 20 minutes of the hearing taking place.

That’s probably not sufficient to stop the Republicans from devastating America, but at least it’s a start.

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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:27:12pm

re: #415 Unshaken Defiance

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:30:01pm

While I am a proud private school teacher, I am an even prouder public school graduate(inner city school as well). Fuck this lady and the high horse she rode in on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:31:34pm

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

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Anymouse  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:33:39pm

Well, at least the red state I live in has always valued public schooling, and makes sure it is well-funded.

That might have something to do with the fact that most of it is rural, and no private school can make money in the rural areas.

One example is the Valentine Consolidated Public School District (Cherry County). The county is one of the largest in the country, with one of the lowest populations.

As such, Valentine (population 1,700) runs an elementary and a high school in the city. Out in the county, there are a number of one-room schoolhouses, with attached living quarters for teachers. When there are children near those schools, Valentine will hire a teacher and open up the particular one-room school.

In my town, the one-room school (K-8) closed only a couple years ago to consolidate with the county seat here.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:35:28pm

re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth

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retired cynic  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:36:09pm

re: #421 Anymouse

Good on ‘em!

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:36:51pm

re: #421 Anymouse

The secret here is that absent federal or even state funding, the natural fill-in for small schools in rural areas would be…heavily funded church organizations who don’t need to turn a profit on the local level because of their larger money flow, and also have a motive beyond straight profit.

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calochortus  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:38:13pm

re: #421 Anymouse

Seems like another fine example of people who want to replace government funding with private in areas where no one could possibly make a profit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:42:41pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:45:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:45:41pm
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Anymouse  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:49:14pm

re: #424 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

The secret here is that absent federal or even state funding, the natural fill-in for small schools in rural areas would be…heavily funded church organizations who don’t need to turn a profit on the local level because of their larger money flow, and also have a motive beyond straight profit.

There aren’t even enough people in rural Cherry County for churches outside the city itself.

From the school’s Website:

Cherry County Rural Attendance Centers

Covering an area of over 6,000 square miles, Cherry County is the largest land county in Nebraska. It is large enough to include two time zones and could fit the state of Rhode Island easily within its borders. Helping to educate students in rural Cherry County are four Rural Attendance Centers, each drawing students from several miles away. In these four schools are 10 of some of the finest teachers in the area, educating children where cattle outnumber people almost 50 to 1.

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calochortus  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:49:25pm

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

He could have just said he likes being able to communicate directly with people, but he just had to insult someone, anyone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:50:09pm
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Interesting Times  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:50:30pm

Forewarned is forearmed:

The “event” in question will be either a false-flag terrorist attack or a real one brought on by sheer incompetence.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:50:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:53:23pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:53:49pm

re: #433 teleskiguy

Obvious photoshop is obvious. It’s still funny.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:55:07pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:55:13pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 7:57:41pm

Oh gawd, I don’t even want to know how Fuckface Von Clownstick will arrange this room. Probably just portraits and busts of himself.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:00:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:01:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:02:37pm
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retired cynic  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:03:27pm

re: #441 Backwoods_Sleuth

Exactly!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:04:38pm
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austin_blue  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:04:49pm

Aaaand… it’s raining like a cow pissing on a flat rock again.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:05:25pm

re: #418 William Lewis

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:09:17pm
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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:11:13pm

re: #445 Unshaken Defiance

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:11:23pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:11:37pm

re: #439 Charles Johnson

Every fucking OKeefe scheme is exactly the same: have agents provocateur propose people do something illegal, then edit the fuck out of the tape and claim the targets are guilty.

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Anymouse  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:11:40pm

OT: Just got called by the village chairwoman saying I need to go into town tomorrow to sign the bank’s paperwork so I can sign cheques for the village.

Conservative village gave the liberal socialist the chequebook. Fortunately for the village, I am not interested in running off with the money.

(Cheyenne, Wyoming has less than $50k in the bank, while we have millions; Cheyenne is in a fiscal crisis because of conservative refusal to raise taxes.)

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:12:31pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:13:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:13:40pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:13:42pm

re: #444 austin_blue

First time I’ve encountered someone that wasn’t a family member using that particular simile. Feel slightly less crazy now.

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retired cynic  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:13:55pm

re: #452 teleskiguy

Cheers!

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TedStriker  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:14:12pm

re: #432 Interesting Times

Forewarned is forearmed:

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The “event” in question will be either a false-flag terrorist attack or a real one brought on by sheer incompetence.

“Either you’re with us or you’re against us” will be the bullshit order of the day once again.

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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:14:15pm

re: #452 teleskiguy

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That’s Trumpenfuhrer’s job. /////

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retired cynic  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:14:25pm

re: #454 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

First time I’ve encountered someone that wasn’t a family member using that particular simile. Feel slightly less crazy now.

So where are you from? We use it here in Illinois.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:15:15pm

re: #458 retired cynic

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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:15:40pm

re: #458 retired cynic

So where are you from? We use it here in Illinois.

Its not uncommon in Wisconsin either.

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Anymouse  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:16:28pm

My wife is making blueberry pancakes, with five units of flax (in keeping with the Principia Discordia)

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retired cynic  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:17:24pm

re: #460 William Lewis

Its not uncommon in Wisconsin either.

Well, sounds like those flat rocks are nation-wide.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:18:57pm

re: #458 retired cynic

So where are you from? We use it here in Illinois.

When I was in Ohio, way back in the day, it was a TALL cow pissing on a flat rock.

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Anymouse  Jan 17, 2017 • 8:20:20pm

re: #463 Backwoods_Sleuth

When I was in Ohio, way back in the day, it was a TALL cow pissing on a flat rock.

Ours do that into sandhills, because they can’t get up on the bluffs without a cowlivator.

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darthstar  Jan 17, 2017 • 9:01:08pm

re: #438 teleskiguy

Oh gawd, I don’t even want to know how Fuckface Von Clownstick will arrange this room. Probably just portraits and busts of himself.

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Trump will spend the first six months of his term looking for a corner in the oval office.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 17, 2017 • 9:47:53pm

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