Video: At Disastrous Press Conference, Trump Patronizes Black Reporter

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There were many bizarre and unhinged moments in today’s freakish Donald Trump press conference, but this one really leaps out as incredibly revealing, as Trump just assumes a black reporter must be “friends” with the Congressional Black Caucus, and tells her to “set up the meeting.”

Reporter April Ryan: Are you gonna include the CBC, Mr. President, in your conversations with your urban agenda, your inner city agenda, as well as…

Trump: Am I gonna include who?

Reporter: Are you gonna include the Congressional Black Caucus?

Trump: Well, I would. I tell you what. Do you wanna set up the meeting? Do you wanna set up the meeting?

Reporter: No no no… I…

Trump: Are they friends of yours? No, get a, set up the meeting!

Reporter: I know some of them…

Trump: Let’s go, set up a meeting, I would love to meet with the Black Caucus, I think it’s great, the Congressional Black Caucus, I think it’s great.

UPDATE at 2/16/17 11:59:32 am by Charles Johnson
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 16, 2017 • 11:55:37am
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austin_blue  Feb 16, 2017 • 11:58:02am

“Don’t tell me what to do, you fat bag of pus!”

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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2017 • 11:59:38am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:00:19pm

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ICe cold.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:00:25pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:02:03pm

Books we need:

Presidenting for Dummies

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:03:17pm
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Jack Burton  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:03:35pm

Von Clownstick:

Dr Evil Bannon: What do you think?

Result: See above…

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Kragar  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:03:41pm

“WHERES YOUR CHIN?” comes to mind immediately

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:05:02pm

If y’all are willing to indulge me going OT:
I’ve got palpitations and heart burn and the fidgets and whatnot, and I am REALLY anxious for my work day to be done and to get home, because this evening a man is bringing me a guitar I just bought - a 1965 Gibson Melody Maker, all original (except tuners, supposedly they came off another of the same model/period) including that wacky Vibrolux.
I am getting rather wound up and I have about four hours before I can leave…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:05:10pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:05:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:05:51pm

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We ain’t seen nothing yet. Just wait to see how he reacts when his aides start going to jail.

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BeachDem  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:05:58pm

re: #10 Kragar

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:06:02pm

Trump: Porn for Bootlickers.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:06:12pm

re: #13 The Vicious Babushka

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But but he’s the least antisemitic person you’ll ever meet!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:06:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:06:48pm

re: #10 Kragar

“WHERES YOUR CHIN?” comes to mind immediately

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Stealing this from someone else but he looks like a real life Pepe teh Frog.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:07:00pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:07:19pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

But but he’s the least antisemitic person you’ll ever meet!

I have met Holocaust survivors, so, NOPE.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:07:48pm

The racism is so deep that he can’t even begin to understand it. He doesn’t see anything wrong with thinking that because the reporter is black, she must know the Congressional Black Caucus. He doesn’t get that telling the president of Mexico that he’s got some “bad hombres” is racist. It’s just who he is.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:08:05pm

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Nope Chris, Trump could shoot a reporter on stage and his supporters would applaud it just like they’re applauding this clown show.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:08:42pm

re: #22 Mike Lamb

The racism is so deep that he can’t even begin to understand it. He doesn’t see anything wrong with thinking that because the reporter is black, she must know the Congressional Black Caucus. He doesn’t get that telling the president of Mexico that he’s got some “bad hombres” is racist. It’s just who he is.

See, that means he doesn’t see color. You brought up the reporter’s race, libtard! //

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lawhawk  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:08:43pm

re: #10 Kragar

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:08:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:10:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:11:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:13:08pm
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Belafon  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:13:18pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love the person’s name.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:13:25pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:14:02pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:15:25pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“You’ve been cheating on me?!”
“Who said you could look at my phone?! You violated my privacy! How can I trust you if you look at my phone without my permission?!”

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:16:24pm

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Yep. Saw this a few minutes ago:

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Trump fans are drooling like Pavlov’s dogs over this. They want somebody who talks smack, acts like an ass in public and can’t be fired for it since they do not have that power.

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:17:28pm

One of the things that I think would change a few of the more reasonable Republican’s minds, those I work with, would be if they were forced to watch this. The thing is, for most of them, Fox will have filtered it down to a few items that will be positive in their eyes and that’s what a lot of Republicans will see.

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jaunte  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:17:54pm

re: #34 Scottish Dragon

Lots of repressed bullies love a bigger bully, even if he’s ignorant and incompetent for his job.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:18:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:18:19pm
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jaunte  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:18:41pm

And McConnell pretending he didn’t see it so he won’t have to comment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:18:52pm
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lawhawk  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:18:54pm

drip drip drip

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Kragar  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:19:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:19:53pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:20:24pm

re: #40 jaunte

And McConnell pretending he didn’t see it so he won’t have to comment.

That’s the stock answer: “I didn’t see it.” And if you confront them with a clip of his comments, the stock answer is “I’m not going to defend everything he says.” And the press will let them get away with it, when a Democrat who tried to duck the same shit would be evidence that the president had no support from his own party.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:20:44pm
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lawhawk  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:21:51pm
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That’s an annotated transcript - complete with fact checking.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:23:16pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:24:12pm
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Go fuck yourself with Negan’s baseball bat, you goddamned shitgibbon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:24:28pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:26:23pm

The replies are exactly what you would expect

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:26:39pm

“A Kindler, Gentler Nation” - Republicans, 1988.
“SIDDOWN! SHUT UP! FUCK YOU!” - Republicans, 20… Er… 10? 11? 12…17?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:26:55pm

Meanwhile …

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KGxvi  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:27:15pm

In our new 25th Amendment Watch segment, I’d like to point out that Alexander Acosta is at least qualified to run the labor department* (he’s an attorney that practiced labor and employment law, he served on the NLRB, and worked in the Civil Rights division of the DOJ), and more importantly he has ties to the Republican establishment… meaning he’d probably be more likely to sign onto a letter saying Trump can’t perform his duties as president.

*I’m not suggesting he’s a great choice (I don’t know enough about him to say), but just pointing out that he has the kind of resume you would expect from someone being appointed to that position by a Republican president.

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Kragar  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:27:48pm
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Citizen K  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:28:00pm

re: #34 Scottish Dragon

Yep. Saw this a few minutes ago:

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Trump fans are drooling like Pavlov’s dogs over this. They want somebody who talks smack, acts like an ass in public and can’t be fired for it since they do not have that power.

This is why I fear that even if the Russia thing blows up into something impeachable, the GOP will just hold ranks and remain a bulwark: because the floor of support is absolutely unshakable that they’ll be able to get away with it until at least the midterms.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:28:27pm
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Kragar  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:29:34pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:29:36pm
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Roguepotusstaff on twitter is believed to be a Bannon ratfucking account. Beware.

Not to be confused with angrywhstaffer, which is as of yet unproven provenance.

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:30:06pm

re: #58 Kragar

Luckily, Jesus wasn’t white.

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Citizen K  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:30:26pm

re: #52 Pawn of the Oppressor

“A Kindler, Gentler Nation” - Republicans, 1988.
“SIDDOWN! SHUT UP! FUCK YOU!” - Republicans, 20… Er… 10? 11? 12…17?

You forgot a generous dose of “GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY! OUR COUNTRY, OUR COUNTRY!!!”

We live in the country that deifies the platonic ideal of ‘asshole’.

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Interesting Times  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:32:09pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:32:35pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:33:33pm

The truth, if we can handle it

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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:34:51pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:39:54pm
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Jesus Christ. This is actual heresy. Not playing around Warhammer 40k stuff…I mean actual taking a shit on the Council of Nicea and promoting a doctrine antithetical to the spoken words of Christ and 2000 years of Canon. I don’t know how to even respond to this.

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:41:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:41:01pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:41:46pm

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Jesus Christ. This is actual heresy. Not playing around Warhammer 40k stuff…I mean actual taking a shit on the Council of Nicea and promoting a doctrine antithetical to the spoken words of Christ and 2000 years of Canon. I don’t know how to even respond to this.

Relax. It’s just an asshole being an asshole in the Church of Asshole Worship.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:41:48pm

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Jesus Christ. This is actual heresy. Not playing around Warhammer 40k stuff…I mean actual taking a shit on the Council of Nicea and promoting a doctrine antithetical to the spoken words of Christ and 2000 years of Canon. I don’t know how to even respond to this.

I can respond!

She just proved that the real God of the GOP is Ayn Rand!

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:41:53pm

re: #66 Scottish Dragon

Jesus Christ. This is actual heresy. Not playing around Warhammer 40k stuff…I mean actual taking a shit on the Council of Nicea and promoting a doctrine antithetical to the spoken words of Christ and 2000 years of Canon. I don’t know how to even respond to this.

Ann Coulter’s trying to become relevant again.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:43:05pm

re: #70 Joe Bacon

I can respond!

She just proved that the real God of the GOP is Ayn Rand!

Say what you want about Ayn Rand, she had a large vocabulary and could write complete sentences.

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Kragar  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:43:09pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:44:16pm
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Citizen K  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:44:32pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:44:39pm

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Jesus Christ. This is actual heresy. Not playing around Warhammer 40k stuff…I mean actual taking a shit on the Council of Nicea and promoting a doctrine antithetical to the spoken words of Christ and 2000 years of Canon. I don’t know how to even respond to this.

Coulter just says shit like that to get a rise out of people; its not worth responding to.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:45:03pm

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Targetpractice  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:45:42pm

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Do you know what you do when you “expose” evil, Bill? You give it a platform, you give it air time, you give it an air of legitimacy. If you treat it as something to debate rather than an abhorrently noxious scum to be wiped off the bottom of one’s boot, you make people stop and say “Maybe this guy has a point.”

There were a lot of morons who thought that “exposing” Hitler would wake the German people up to how evil he was. All it did was give him an audience he could convert into more willing followers.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:45:59pm

re: #34 Scottish Dragon

Yep, a solid 35% or so of America wants to burn everything in the world to the ground just to see what is left standing. Trump is their man.

I’m convinced the late 60’s/early 70’s string of popular dystopian movies were the emerging canary in the coal mine for the now current generation in power (baby boomers) and their apparent fascination in seeing the world just end already.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:46:19pm

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I hope this triggers another round of leaks.

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KGxvi  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:46:20pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

It only “works” if you forcefully challenge the hate. And I mean come at it hard and really put them on the spot, turn them into a stuttering pile of blubber. But even then, if the arbiter of hate is beyond shame, I’m not entirely sure that’ll work.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:46:38pm

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

Relax. It’s just an asshole being an asshole in the Church of Asshole Worship.

Hard to relax when one of the loudest voices in the wingnut sphere just threw away the fucking Enlightenment as well as the Constitution and pretty much all of Church law and tradition to promote an amoral tyrant as both king and savior. We haven’t seen anything like this at all in American political history. Not ever. This is shit we haven’t dealt with since the damned English Civil War and even Cromwell would not have accepted this kind of base flattery.

The people on her twitter feed don’t take it as a joke.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:47:37pm

re: #79 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Yep, a solid 35% or so of America wants to burn everything in the world to the ground just to see what is left standing. Trump is their man.

I’m convinced the late 60’s/early 70’s string of popular dystopian movies were the emerging canary in the coal mine for the now current generation in power (baby boomers) and their apparent fascination in seeing the world just end already.

Hey now, don’t stereotype all of us Olds.

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Citizen K  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:48:46pm

re: #79 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Yep, a solid 35% or so of America wants to burn everything in the world to the ground just to see what is left standing. Trump is their man.

I’m convinced the late 60’s/early 70’s string of popular dystopian movies were the emerging canary in the coal mine for the now current generation in power (baby boomers) and their apparent fascination in seeing the world just end already.

They don’t want to burn it down just to burn it down. They want to burn it down so they can explicitly deny it from those who they hate and feel ‘don’t deserve’ to have it. They’re willing to cut off their nose to spite other people’s faces.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:48:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:49:57pm
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Sir John Barron  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:50:14pm

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

Presumably, POTUS has something called a congressional liaison or somebody like that, who’s supposed to be responsible for setting up meetings with members of Congress. It usually isn’t the job of journalists to arrange these meetings.

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Kragar  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:51:23pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:51:49pm

re: #76 Big Beautiful Door

Coulter just says shit like that to get a rise out of people; its not worth responding to.

I think that was aimed at her followers. This is turning into a cult.

The signs have been there for some time…Manichean us or them logic and tribal hatred mixed with populist nationalism. All they need is a leader to mix with religious fervor and you can have an actual personality/religious cult.

Ann is actually doing that. Messianic nihilism.

Yes, that scares the holy hell out of me.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:52:24pm

re: #82 Scottish Dragon

You have to look outside the US to find a comparable throwing off all religious and wantan disregard for truth and consistency in ideology for a comparison to Trump. Hitler /Mussolini are the obvious references, but I think more a appropriate comparison is Hugo Chavez. Trump’s Populist message spoon fed to an enraged base with no regard for social reality, reality-based economics, facts, or moderation presented in daily grandstanding on TV fits more in line with the late Venezuelan dictator than anyone else.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:52:32pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:53:09pm

And when glibertarians like Bill say that he’s going to “expose” Milo’s evil, what he really means is he’s going to debate it. He’s going to treat it as just another point of view, as if wanting to exterminate any who are not racially “superior” is just a difference of opinion. As if Milo is just arguing whether or not it’s a good idea to cut back on one’s carbon footprint. Men like Milo are promoting genocide and Bill will just nod along and say that’s bad but we can’t say he’s wrong for believing that because he’s “entitled to his opinion.”

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Sir John Barron  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:53:30pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, they aren’t the Republicans that Republicans in Congress represent.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:54:39pm

VB, article about the Jewish reporter:

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A reporter for a small ultra-Orthodox publication’s dream turned into a nightmare today when President Donald Trump called on him during a rare solo press conference — and then slammed him.

The reporter, Jake Turx, had long wanted to participate in such a high-level event, even publicly begging spokesman Sean Spicer to call on him.

He asked Trump about the uptick in anti-Semitism in the United States — but only after carefully and at length reassuring the president that nobody in his own community, or on staff at Ami magazine, felt Trump personally was anti-Semitic.

Yet an accusation of personal anti-Semitism was all that Trump seemed to hear from Turx. He let loose with a flood of well-rehearsed lines:

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:54:40pm

re: #87 Sir John Barron

Presumably, POTUS has something called a congressional liaison or somebody like that, who’s supposed to be responsible for setting up meetings with members of Congress. It usually isn’t the job of journalists to arrange these meetings.

He wasn’t thinking of April Ryan as a journalist, he was thinking of her as a random Black person.

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scottslemmons  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:54:51pm

re: #89 Scottish Dragon

I think that was aimed at her followers. This is turning into a cult.

The signs have been there for some time…Manichean us or them logic and tribal hatred mixed with populist nationalism. All they need is a leader to mix with religious fervor and you can have an actual personality/religious cult.

Ann is actually doing that. Messianic nihilism.

Yes, that scares the holy hell out of me.

My eternal question is: How do we fix it? I never seem to get an answer from anyone, and my preferred solution — putting 60 million Trumpers in the ground — just gets me yelled at.

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:55:10pm

re: #38 Scottish Dragon

The fragrance of fornicating rats is as strong as ever with this, but it is good entertainment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:55:58pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

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KGxvi  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:56:21pm

re: #87 Sir John Barron

Presumably, POTUS has something called a congressional liaison or somebody like that, who’s supposed to be responsible for setting up meetings with members of Congress. It usually isn’t the job of journalists to arrange these meetings.

Found on Craigslist DC:

Amazing, Huge Opportunity to Work for White House

Seeking smart, talented, brave individual who can tell POTUS how great he is, bigly. Job involves having many, many doors slammed in your face… but they are great doors, Congressional doors, so not the best, those are in the White House I have to say. You’ll have to try and set up meetings with Congress, must be a deal maker.

So let’s see what we do…

Benefits: get your picture taken with the President; parking validated, probably, will have to ask Congress; get to read classified documents in public, but must promise not to leak them; many, many trips to Russia, who I don’t deal with.

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Bubblehead II  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:56:35pm

New Olbermann

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Sir John Barron  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:57:18pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, you have to learn to speak in really short, simple sentences for DT to understand. And speak very slowly. And you have to throw in some compliments.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:57:39pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

VB, article about the Jewish reporter:

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I don’t read Ami magazine but I’m familiar with it. My daughter subscribes. They are a moderate Orthodox publication, meaning they actually use pictures of women in articles and advertisements.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:57:59pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

It could have been much worse. Trump could have told the other reporters to “Get him outta here!” like he did to protesters during his Nazi campaign rallies.

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Skip Intro  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:58:42pm

re: #96 scottslemmons

My eternal question is: How do we fix it? I never seem to get an answer from anyone, and my preferred solution — putting 60 million Trumpers in the ground — just gets me yelled at.

The Germans solved their problem by declaring war and losing. That may be our only hope.

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:59:10pm

re: #66 Scottish Dragon

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Jesus Christ. This is actual heresy. Not playing around Warhammer 40k stuff…I mean actual taking a shit on the Council of Nicea and promoting a doctrine antithetical to the spoken words of Christ and 2000 years of Canon. I don’t know how to even respond to this.

IMO this level of heresy is business as usual for Republican leaders and opinion makers. They must know they are agents of Satan, while telling gullible fools they are on missions from God.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:59:18pm

re: #97 EPR-radar

The fragrance of fornicating rats is as strong as ever with this, but it is good entertainment.

The word is out that roguepotusstaff is a Bannon ratfuck. Be especially careful of that account.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Feb 16, 2017 • 12:59:59pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

It will be no suprise when tomorrow and the next day this Ultra-Orthodox Jewish reporter’s email box and his publication’s email will be flooded to overflowing with the vilest, hate-filled, putrid keystrokes ever tapped out on a keyboard from the Trump base. Guaranteed automatic. All for trying to throw Trump a softball and massaged question.

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lawhawk  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:00:18pm

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:02:09pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

Do you know what you do when you “expose” evil, Bill? You give it a platform, you give it air time, you give it an air of legitimacy. If you treat it as something to debate rather than an abhorrently noxious scum to be wiped off the bottom of one’s boot, you make people stop and say “Maybe this guy has a point.”

There were a lot of morons who thought that “exposing” Hitler would wake the German people up to how evil he was. All it did was give him an audience he could convert into more willing followers.

If free speech by fascists is to be tolerated (and I don’t see a good way to ban it), then it is essential that those opposed to the fascists get at least equal exposure and air time to make their arguments.

We used to have a ‘fairness doctrine’ along these lines.

Edited to add: And by ‘make their arguments’ I mean make the arguments in any way that seems most effective, as opposed to being locked into a debate-school format that usually just legitimizes right wing crap.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:03:34pm

Because the yam is the yam

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Stanley Sea  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:04:33pm
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Skip Intro  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:04:58pm

re: #112 Stanley Sea

Because the yam is the yam

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He never heard that part because after the question hit six words his brain froze up, like it always does.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:05:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:06:17pm

heh

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:07:30pm

Holy shit.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:07:33pm

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Shorter Trump: Seeing that y’all are Negroes, you must know them personally, right?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:08:54pm

Sorry, but even after inheriting the 2008 housing and mortgage banking collapse and ensuing recession, along with quagmires in Afghanistan and Iraq, I do not recall Obama getting up and trashing his predecessor.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:10:02pm
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:10:14pm

re: #61 Citizen K

Megyn Kelly: Blasphemous!! Santa Clause was a White man too.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:12:04pm

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sorry, but even after inheriting the 2008 housing and mortgage collapse, I do not recall Obama getting up and trashing his predecessor.

That was a false flag narrative perpetuated by Rush and Lumpy on a daily basis.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:12:35pm
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The “least anti-Semitic person” would respectfully answer this very real question about anti-Semitic attacks.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:13:09pm
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:13:32pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

No, it wasn’t a “substantial victory”. You barely won.

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b.d.  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:15:07pm

re: #117 Myron Falwell

Holy shit.

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So the Rs still love them some Donald but he hasn’t done anything at all with Congress and when that happens it will be a Him vs. Them battle between the congressional republicans and the POTUS.

This is his high point.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:15:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:16:19pm
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:16:21pm

re: #92 Targetpractice

Unless Maher is going to silence Milo’s mic and shout at him for 10 minutes straight, he’s just giving Milo another forum to spew out his garbage. Maher should just say that he is a free speech absolutist and leave it there. There is nothing noble about giving a bigot a voice and an audience.

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lawhawk  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:16:26pm

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nope. Bush and Obama actually worked together after the election to coordinate how to keep things from getting even worse.

Obama actually thought so highly of the Bush to Obama transition that he tried to follow through with it with Trump.

Trump didn’t bother coordinating with Obama on even security briefings. They blew off the Obama efforts, and all of this shines through daily with how incompetent Trump and his people are. They simply don’t grasp what they’re doing - and what’s worse, their supporters don’t care either. They think this is all grand. They’re showing the powers that be that Trump won and is breaking up the way things are done. No more business as usual (never mind consequences of destroying the normal order).

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MsJ  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:16:47pm

Ugh. This is probably true and disheartening to say the least.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:17:52pm
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:18:55pm

re: #112 Stanley Sea

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But that isn’t even true. He doesn’t care about anti-Semitism or sexism or racism.

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:19:39pm

Yo, POTUS* Fuckface von Clownstick.

Time for another love note from occupied America. It seems you realize you are not universally loved, and that many people actually hate you and all your works with every fiber of their being.

I am here to tell you that this hate is totally and completely justified. You are an obvious menace to all human life and civilization on the planet. Your nearly 4 weeks in office have proved that to everyone on Earth who is capable of thought and willing to think.

People naturally hate and fear such menaces.

You should know this better than anyone, since your party and candidacy are entirely based on whipping up hate and fear vs. imaginary menaces.

In hopes that this finds you suffering from painful psychosomatic (look it up) ailments caused by the conflict between your narcissism (look this up too) and a reality (you definitely need to look this up) in which you are hated, I remain

A member of The Resistance

P.S. Your upcoming ‘campaign rally’ in Florida will change nothing.

(*) LOSER of the popular vote, winner in the electoral college by a paltry margin.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:19:56pm

re: #134 Patricia Kayden

But that isn’t even true. He doesn’t care about anti-Semitism or sexism or racism.

nor do those who support him…

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:20:00pm
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MsJ  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:20:43pm

re: #130 Patricia Kayden

Unless Maher is going to silence Milo’s mic and shout at him for 10 minutes straight, he’s just giving Milo another forum to spew out his garbage. Maher should just say that he is a free speech absolutist and leave it there. There is nothing noble about giving a bigot a voice and an audience.

He won’t. He won’t. And he won’t.

That about sums it up.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:21:48pm
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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:23:39pm

re: #139 FormerDirtDart

So, has Wikileaks ever released anything that embarrassed the Russians?

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Targetpractice  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:23:50pm

re: #139 FormerDirtDart

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Nyet  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:25:21pm

Take it with a grain of salt (like any news purporting to know “secret” things going on in Russia), but funny if true.

Kremlin Tells Media to Cut Back on Fawning Trump Coverage, Sources Say

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:25:25pm

Fox News’ Shepard Smith hammers Trump & sticks up for CNN

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Nyet  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:25:56pm

re: #140 EPR-radar

So, has Wikileaks ever released anything that embarrassed the Russians?

Allegedly.

Not that I have seen any of that.

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:26:19pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

A comment from Trump later: “I didn’t sign that.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:26:37pm
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Just popping out. You’ll find me in the garden. Digging a shelter.

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Nyet  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:27:26pm

re: #130 Patricia Kayden

Unless Maher is going to silence Milo’s mic and shout at him for 10 minutes straight, he’s just giving Milo another forum to spew out his garbage. Maher should just say that he is a free speech absolutist and leave it there. There is nothing noble about giving a bigot a voice and an audience.

Agreed. Giving these guys a platform *even to humiliate them* is stupid. Much less to nod along sagely, which Maher will probably do at least part of the time.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:28:32pm

re: #127 b.d.

So the Rs still love them some Donald but he hasn’t done anything at all with Congress and when that happens it will be a Him vs. Them battle between the congressional republicans and the POTUS.

This is his high point.

Yup.

Remember that Trump is the following:

** 70 years old
** a known quantity
** offensive simply by holding a pulse; that’s why people cast their votes either for or against him, or for Hillary^^
** polarizing like no one else in modern history
** possesses the mentality of a four year old who hasn’t been disciplined for anything
** now has the spectre of widespread corruption and foreign tampering swirling around his head, exacerbated by the inactions of Jason Fucking Chaffetz
** already at historically low approval ratings at what could be a high water mark

I don’t count the GOP rank-and-file to turn on him at any point, though. They made their suicide pact and will go down with the ship. Unfortunately for them, that will be a death by 1,001 papercuts.

^^ Unless the voter was a Bro or a JillBot, then, they voted for Trump anyway. Fuck them.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:30:15pm

re: #130 Patricia Kayden

Unless Maher is going to silence Milo’s mic and shout at him for 10 minutes straight, he’s just giving Milo another forum to spew out his garbage. Maher should just say that he is a free speech absolutist and leave it there. There is nothing noble about giving a bigot a voice and an audience.

He normalized Ann Coulter and Tomi Lahren. I mean, c’mon.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:34:44pm

re: #144 FormerDirtDart

I expect to hear that Fox has officially removed Sheppard Smith of all on-air duties at any moment now.

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At the signing, Trump called the regulation “another terrible job killing rule” and said ending it would save “many thousands American jobs, especially in the mines, which, I have been promising you — the mines are a big deal.”

“This is a major threat to your jobs and we’re going to get rid of this threat,” he added. “We’re going to fight for you.”

Republicans on Congress, especially from Appalachia, supported that argument and sought to block the rule several times before finally passing the CRA resolution this month.

“In my home state of Kentucky and others across the nation, the stream buffer rule will cause major damage to communities and threaten coal jobs,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said before the bill passed. “We should heed their call now and begin bringing relief to coal country.”

gaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:35:38pm

re: #150 Myron Falwell

He normalized Ann Coulter and Tomi Lahren. I mean, c’mon.

I think it is high time for the main stream media to draw some sharp lines and categorically refuse to interview or otherwise normalize any pure propagandist.

Coverage about Republicans would then necessarily have to focus more on what they actually do and much less on the lies they tell.

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nines09  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:36:12pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

And they are selling it to whom?

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:36:28pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

Of course no coal mining jobs will ever come back to that area. But #GOPDontCare.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:36:34pm

re: #150 Myron Falwell

He normalized Ann Coulter and Tomi Lahren. I mean, c’mon.

Maher has always been about the idea that he will talk to anyone on his show.

Okay, I get that.

However, Milo uses platforms to dox and attack GLBT people in colleges and workplaces around the country. Why the hell would Maher want his show used for that?

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InfidelOfFreedom  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:37:21pm

I know it’s maybe a nit-pick but it really drives me nuts how these reporters on MSNBC are laughing at this press conference with the same bemused detachment that helped get him elected. Those of us with something on the line do not find any of this funny.

Pundits keep saying Donald is not taking the office seriously, but why should he take his job seriously when these folks don’t seem to take his job seriously either?

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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:38:04pm

re: #130 Patricia Kayden

Unless Maher is going to silence Milo’s mic and shout at him for 10 minutes straight, he’s just giving Milo another forum to spew out his garbage. Maher should just say that he is a free speech absolutist and leave it there. There is nothing noble about giving a bigot a voice and an audience.

Maher is less a free speech absolutist than a self-promoting asshole looking for ratings.

Can you tell I’m not a fan? Never have been. I really find his smug self-congratulating brand of “humor” annoying as hell.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:38:15pm

re: #155 nines09

re: #156 Myron Falwell

It’s all about mountaintop removal mining, which employs just a fraction of the number of people that had the old coal mining jobs.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:38:18pm
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(alpuz)  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:38:59pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

“…just sign right there, big guy. Yeessssss… no, the crowds WERE huge - 306! Yes, They ALL love you. Oh, and sign there, and there and…”

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nines09  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:39:03pm

re: #158 InfidelOfFreedom

They ought to play clips of the ruined cities in Europe and Britain at the end of WWII as a reminder of the last time a madman was in a position of immense power and no one took him seriously.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:39:46pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

At the signing, Trump called the regulation “another terrible job killing rule” and said ending it would save “many thousands American jobs, especially in the mines, which, I have been promising you — the mines are a big deal.”

Citation needed, please.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:40:07pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:40:51pm

re: #143 Nyet

Take it with a grain of salt (like any news purporting to know “secret” things going on in Russia), but funny if true.

Kremlin Tells Media to Cut Back on Fawning Trump Coverage, Sources Say

they are a bit miffed at his demands to return Crimea

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:41:07pm

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s all about mountaintop removal mining, which employs just a fraction of the number of people that had the old coal mining jobs.

It sure as fuck removes more than a fraction of the trees, animals and waterways, though.

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nines09  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:41:43pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

Paradise by John Prine

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:42:52pm

re: #144 FormerDirtDart

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guarantee my father was watching and guarantee he muted it as soon as Shep started criticizing the president. I kid you not, while I was visiting he would mute the TV whenever someone was criticizing the fucker.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:43:15pm

Welp…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:43:53pm

re: #169 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

guarantee my father was watching and guarantee he muted it as soon as Shep started criticizing the president. I kid you not, while I was visiting he would mute the TV whenever someone was criticizing the fucker.

the equivalent of hitting the “front lawn kid eject” button

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BeachDem  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:44:02pm

re: #150 Myron Falwell

He normalized Ann Coulter and Tomi Lahren. I mean, c’mon.

And Darrell Issa.

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:45:04pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh

I’m imagining all of the miners, standing at the edge of town, anxiously waiting for customers that will never come.

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bratwurst  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:45:38pm

re: #112 Stanley Sea

Because the yam is the yam

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:45:58pm

re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they are a bit miffed at his demands to return Crimea

Ah, it’s a just an opening negotiation strategy. It wall get real interesting when he stiffs them down the line and demands that the Kremlin take a loss on their new yoooge acquisition in western Ukraine and the (now) former Baltic states while selling US Su 37 fighters and T-90 tanks at a discount which he will then reuse as a security tax write off for his new TRUMPUSA CASINO INC which we will all be working in for $3.00 an hour by law.

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:47:08pm

re: #175 Scottish Dragon

Ah, it’s a just an opening negotiation strategy. It wall get real interesting when he stiffs them down the line and demands that the Kremlin take a loss on their new yoooge acquisition in western Ukraine and the (now) former Baltic states while selling US Su 37 fighters and T-90 tanks at a discount which he will then reuse as a security tax write off for his new TRUMPUSA CASINO INC which we will all be working in for $3.00 an hour by law.

That’s way more planning than Trump is capable of.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:47:14pm

re: #175 Scottish Dragon

Ah, it’s a just an opening negotiation strategy. It wall get real interesting when he stiffs them down the line and demands that the Kremlin take a loss on their new yoooge acquisition in western Ukraine and the (now) former Baltic states while selling US Su 37 fighters and T-90 tanks at a discount which he will then reuse as a security tax write off for his new TRUMPUSA CASINO INC which we will all be working in for $3.00 an hour by law.

We support the maximum-wage law! The only way to guarantee job growth!!!

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BeachDem  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:48:12pm

re: #157 Scottish Dragon

Maher has always been about the idea that he will talk to anyone on his show.

Okay, I get that.

However, Milo uses platforms to dox and attack GLBT people in colleges and workplaces around the country. Why the hell would Maher want his show used for that?

The other problem with Maher is that he often doesn’t know what he’s talking about, so either lets the crazies ramble on or tries to make a lame joke.

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wrenchwench  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:49:23pm

re: #170 InfidelOfFreedom

Welp…

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That’s not the one with Alex Trebek.

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Wait…what?

If Flynn lied…and that is a federal felony offense…why the hell is he being allowed to walk? Is this the “Trumpland” FBI running things now? Republicans will be shielded while all others will have fog and night rules in effect?

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:52:49pm

re: #176 Belafon

That’s way more planning than Trump is capable of.

Actually, Trump’s whole schtick is fucking over every person he makes a deal with and making them take a loss.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:53:01pm

re: #172 BeachDem

And Darrell Issa.

Gah, he’s up there with Kucinich on the list of “most embarrassing Cleveland exports.”

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:54:09pm

re: #181 wrenchwench

That’s not the one with Alex Trebek.

Sean Connery is in the lead with -$2,500.

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sigh…

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CongoJack  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:55:14pm

re: #184 Scottish Dragon

Actually, Trump’s whole schtick is fucking over every person he makes a deal with and making them take a loss.

Well didn’t you know that life is a zero sum game.
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Its almost like Ricky Bobby is the president - if you ain’t first your last. Or if you dont make the other person feel pain you cant feel superior.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:55:29pm

re: #185 Myron Falwell

Gah, he’s up there with Kucinich on the list of “most embarrassing Cleveland exports.”

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freetoken  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:55:31pm

re: #183 Scottish Dragon

The assertion by Cooper is just wrong. It’s AGs and local prosecutors who “press charges”, the FBI works with the prosecution to provide evidence.

Any prosecutor into whose jurisdiction this may fall could charge Flynn.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:55:52pm

re: #183 Scottish Dragon

FBI doesn’t file charges, they investigate. DoJ deals with charges.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:56:47pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

FBI doesn’t file charges, they investigate. DoJ deals with charges.

Yeah…about that whole DOJ thing and who is running it now…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:56:59pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

FBI doesn’t file charges, they investigate. DoJ deals with charges.

That is a nuance that was certainly lost on voters in early November…

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:57:51pm

re: #190 freetoken

The assertion by Cooper is just wrong. It’s AGs and local prosecutors who “press charges”, the FBI works with the prosecution to provide evidence.

Any prosecutor into whose jurisdiction this may fall could charge Flynn.

But if the FBI doesn’t refer the complaint, how would a prosecutor file a charge?

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:57:56pm

re: #189 Scottish Dragon

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Replace the yellow with orange and you have what should be the Browns logo. #GPODAWUND

(For the record, I’m from Cleveland, but unlike many of my compatriots, I don’t mind poking fun at my city.)

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KGxvi  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:58:27pm

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is a nuance that was certainly lost on voters in early November…

The entirety of the US legal system is a nuance typically lost on the vast majority of voters.

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lawhawk  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:58:37pm

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

Who ordered the Code Red?!

Trump as Jessup? Flynn as Kendrick?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 16, 2017 • 1:58:45pm

re: #195 Scottish Dragon

But if the FBI doesn’t refer the complaint, how would a prosecutor file a charge?

By convening a Grand Jury.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:02:02pm

re: #199 goddamnedfrank

By convening a Grand Jury.

Yes….but prosecutors tend not to go very far if LE doesn’t want to cooperate. If the FBI does not refer this case…it is dead in the water. Maybe we just have a mistake in reporting, but if Flynn did in fact lie and the FBI gives him a mulligan, then we know the fix is in for the rest of this administration. The knives will be out for anyone who isn’t GOP and you will be an untouchable God if you are GOP.

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KGxvi  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:03:03pm

re: #198 lawhawk

Who ordered the Code Red?!

Trump as Jessup? Flynn as Kendrick?

If Santiago was ordered not to be harmed, why did he have to be transferred? You said your men follow orders, sir. You said your men follow orders or people die.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:04:04pm

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

The only people I can think of who would be thrilled beyond belief at this: Ryan, McConnell and Chaffetz. Because they get to continue sitting on their thumbs and go ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This is just asking for a total meltdown on Trump’s end. And the IOKIYAR syndrome gets to play itself out in real time.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:05:55pm

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scottslemmons  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:07:00pm

re: #203 Scottish Dragon

Yo, hide that shit.

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lawhawk  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:07:34pm

re: #203 Scottish Dragon

Aw hide that will ya! I don’t want to get all penisy or anything, but yeah… tuck that behind a private/hide.

The tuck rule has been played. No foul.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:08:02pm

re: #205 lawhawk

Thirded

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jeffreyw  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:09:10pm

Donald Trump is what a sane person imagines an insane person sounds like.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:09:16pm

re: #203 Scottish Dragon

What’s the big deal? I don’t see anything.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:09:29pm

re: #203 Scottish Dragon

Excuse me a minute.
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:10:13pm

I didn’t even see all of that when I posted. I took a better look and…oh damn. Yeah…hid it.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:10:37pm
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lawhawk  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:11:36pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

You and Frum are nothing alike. That’s a shitty comparison.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:11:39pm

That is when I also gave the reply on twitter. I only saw from the waist up and…ay yi yi.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:12:12pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

”.. IRRELEVANT!!1!!!!1!!!”

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BigPapa  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:12:52pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

Ha ha, sad clown trumpet.

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plansbandc  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:13:09pm

re: #150 Myron Falwell

Bill and Milo will have plenty to Bro about. After all, they’re both raving misogynists.

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CongoJack  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:13:17pm

re: #210 Scottish Dragon

Boo - I haven’t been registered for 2 weeks yet so I cant see it. So I will just use my imagination that is a video of Trump being pissed on by 3 Russian prostitutes while a rhesus monkey jacks him off with a jar of orange marmalade (because it looks anatomical with in the hands of a small monkey).

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:14:58pm

So if Trump told Flynnghazi to lie, he is done, right?

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Targetpractice  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:15:16pm

re: #216 plansbandc

Bill and Milo will have plenty to Bro about. After all, they’re both raving misogynists.

As well as raving Islamophobes. Milo will say “Muslims are all crazy terrorists!” and Bill will go “Now you’re talking my language.”

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:15:29pm

re: #217 CongoJack

Boo - I haven’t been registered for 2 weeks yet so I cant see it. So I will just use my imagination that is a video of Trump being pissed on by 3 Russian prostitutes while a rhesus monkey jacks him off with a jar of orange marmalade (because it looks anatomical with in the hands of a small monkey).

Um…I got nothing. You win.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:15:38pm

re: #217 CongoJack

It was the classic “emperor’s new clothes” gag someone tweeted in response to an alleged “angry” White House staffer** …

** I’m 98.9725% sure that account is for entertainment purposes only.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:16:41pm

re: #212 lawhawk

You and Frum are nothing alike. That’s a shitty comparison.

People like this are just as inflexible and hateful as any right winger.

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(alpuz)  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:16:56pm

re: #217 CongoJack

Two. There were two monkeys.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:16:58pm

re: #221 Myron Falwell

It was the classic “emperor’s new clothes” gag someone tweeted in response to an alleged “angry” White House staffer** …

** I’m 98.9725% sure that account is for entertainment purposes only.

I give it 50/50, but the entertainment is pretty good nonetheless.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:17:34pm

BBL

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:18:09pm

re: #224 Scottish Dragon

I give it 50/50, but the entertainment is pretty good nonetheless.

As long as it’s not used for confirmation bias purposes by anyone, then I’m okay with it. 🙂

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:20:33pm

re: #212 lawhawk

You and Frum are nothing alike. That’s a shitty comparison.

The replies to that tweet are facepalm-inducing at best.

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KGxvi  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:21:33pm

re: #218 Ace Rothstein

So if Trump told Flynnghazi to lie, he is done, right?

If Trump told Flynn to tell the Russian ambassador that he’d ease or lift the sanctions, he’s done. If Trump told Flynn to lie to Pence, he’s also probably done, because it would logically follow that even if he didn’t tell Flynn to inform the Russians of his intent, he later found out about it and approved. Having a subordinate lie to the Vice President isn’t historically something that would ruin a president - there have often been frayed and distant relationships between POTUS and VPOTUS.

Trump may have hanged himself today when he said that he didn’t tell Flynn to talk to the Russians, but he would have told him to if he didn’t think Flynn was already talking to them.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:22:44pm

re: #212 lawhawk

You and Frum are nothing alike. That’s a shitty comparison.

Indeed.

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Scout  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:23:40pm

re: #132 MsJ

From that Bloomberg opinion piece:

What does Trump really believe, if anything, on Russia and Israel and China? No one, including the State Department and other foreign policy and national security portions of the executive branch, has any idea. He keeps talking about “a deal” as if foreign policy was a one-time negotiation over a TV contract or bankruptcy procedure. Foreign policy isn’t like that.

This, this, this.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:24:03pm

IOKIYAR, example #52,831:

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Ming5000  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:24:54pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

Cute:
“Deplorable Davy”

I forgot about the “deplorables”

There are some who will never be won over.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:24:58pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

People like this are just as inflexible and hateful as any right winger.

I’ve told you this before Charles and our other former right leaning Lizards, I respect y’all a lot more than some of the people I knew in my lefty days who foolishly see Snowden and WL as heroes.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:26:01pm

re: #231 Myron Falwell

IOKIYAR, example #52,831:

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He got a promotion after the Billy Bush tape gah. Rest of us would be gone!or at least undergoing sensitivity training.

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Nyet  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:26:02pm
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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:26:30pm

re: #228 KGxvi

If Trump told Flynn to tell the Russian ambassador that he’d ease or lift the sanctions, he’s done. If Trump told Flynn to lie to Pence, he’s also probably done, because it would logically follow that even if he didn’t tell Flynn to inform the Russians of his intent, he later found out about it and approved. Having a subordinate lie to the Vice President isn’t historically something that would ruin a president - there have often been frayed and distant relationships between POTUS and VPOTUS.

Trump may have hanged himself today when he said that he didn’t tell Flynn to talk to the Russians, but he would have told him to if he didn’t think Flynn was already talking to them.

Analysis like this is very sensible and may be a category error. I think the only thing that matters for Trump staying in office is how well he polls among Republicans in state level polling of states with Republican Senators and in district-level polling of (R) congressional districts.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:26:49pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

He got a promotion after the Billy Bush tape gah. Rest of us would be gone!or at least undergoing sensitivity training.

Shit, Billy Bush himself got canned at warp speed.

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freetoken  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:26:58pm

re: #236 EPR-radar

Analysis like this is very sensible and may be a category error. I think the only thing that matters for Trump staying in office is how well he polls among Republicans in state level polling of states with Republican Senators and in district-level polling of (R) congressional districts.

Exactly true.

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Nyet  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:27:44pm

Ok I forgot the underscore.

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Droid Builder  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:28:50pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The key to dealing with Trump is in the last statement from the reporter.

1. Trump is asked about his misrepresentation of his electoral college win.
2. Trump responds with bullshit and then asks a question to try to deflect the reporter from his accurate question.

The first reaction from anyone to Trump asking “But is was a very substantial victory, do you agree with that?” is to respond to his question and thus negating the impact of their own question.

By simply saying “You’re the President” the reporter turned it back on Trump.

Take note media.

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makeitstop  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:28:51pm

re: #228 KGxvi

Trump may have hanged himself today when he said that he didn’t tell Flynn to talk to the Russians, but he would have told him to if he didn’t think Flynn was already talking to them.

The primo takeaway came out of Trump’s own gob numerous times:

The leaks are real.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:28:53pm

re: #235 Nyet

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And even as early as 2008, Charles was condemning right wing Eurofascism as people like Coulter defended LePen and his ilk.

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CongoJack  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:29:22pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

I’ve told you this before Charles and our other former right leaning Lizards, I respect y’all a lot more than some of the people I knew in my lefty days who foolishly see Snowden and WL as heroes.

This right here is why I came to LGF. I was in the wilderness with Snowden and WL a few years ago not sure how I should feel about them. Then I finally heard a reasoned voice in this area - Bob and Chez - who helped me add, “I’m good with whistle-blowing but not OK with this shit” angle to my personal political philosophy.

I presume in a perfect world this philosophy would be considered centrist (though today it may be considered learning left - ?).

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:29:53pm

The media can annoy me at times but I think they see blood here and are pouncing on it.

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Anymouse  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:30:33pm

re: #96 scottslemmons

My eternal question is: How do we fix it? I never seem to get an answer from anyone, and my preferred solution — putting 60 million Trumpers in the ground — just gets me yelled at.

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Nyet  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:31:30pm

re: #242 HappyWarrior

Right. The key years were 08/09.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:31:41pm

re: #243 CongoJack

This right here is why I came to LGF. I was in the wilderness with Snowden and WL a few years ago not sure how I should feel about them. Then I finally heard a reasoned voice in this area - Bob and Chez - who helped me add, “I’m good with whistle-blowing but not OK with this shit” angle to my personal political philosophy.

I presume in a perfect world this philosophy would be considered centrist (though today it may be considered learning left - ?).

I identify as center left. I’m definitely to the left of the Dem leadership and most elected officials but more pragmatic than those who hate ACA because it’s not single payer. My motto politically is pretty much- Progress is a journey not an event.

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:32:03pm

Trump is a raging asshole with as close to ultimate power as exists on this planet.

I’m absolutely certain that White House planning right now includes deciding when and where to use a nuke or two to try to show the rest of the world (and domestic critics) who is boss.

It will not end well.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:32:07pm

re: #246 Nyet

Right. The key years were 08/09.

Yep.

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Skip Intro  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:32:22pm

re: #232 Ming5000

Cute:
“Deplorable Davy”

I forgot about the “deplorables”

There are some who will never be won over.

85% of all Republicans at last count.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:33:29pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:33:56pm

re: #250 Skip Intro

85% of all Republicans at last count.

Assuming that 15% can be reached is way optimistic. The reachable Republicans have all left the party by now.

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nines09  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:36:05pm

re: #183 Scottish Dragon

Now I suggest you get caught shoplifting a small item like socks, and witness the pain you suffer. As this guy walks away? And you wonder why some people just gave the fuck up?

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:37:02pm

re: #252 EPR-radar

Assuming that 15% can be reached is way optimistic. The reachable Republicans have all left the party by now.

Navarro and those like her still call themselves Republicans. And there are a number that aren’t paying attention like we do, or even like the nutcase wingers.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:37:04pm

re: #251 goddamnedfrank

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Yep. And Charles hasn’t done Frum’s excuses for the GOP brand. It’s wrong to act like he just changed.

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freetoken  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:37:32pm

If my Facebook stream is any indication (and it may not - my circle of friends and relatives may be too small, but they often comment on others’ public posts so I see a bit outside my own bubble), some of those who may not like Trump are having a hard time admitting it, as then they would have to admit that Hillary was right, and according to their beliefs Hillary was evil, so it can’t be true that Clinton was right.

Yup, that’s where some of them are at.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:37:51pm

re: #248 EPR-radar

Trump is a raging asshole with as close to ultimate power as exists on this planet.

I’m absolutely certain that White House planning right now includes deciding when and where to use a nuke or two to try to show the rest of the world (and domestic critics) who is boss.

It will not end well.

Stock up on iodine and make sure your underground civil defense bomb shelter is reinforced.

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:37:53pm

re: #244 HappyWarrior

The media can annoy me at times but I think they see blood here and are pouncing on it.

I think they now know that if they don’t they’ll be the first against the wall.

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CongoJack  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:37:59pm

re: #252 EPR-radar

I have a few of those 15% in my family. A few of them are still in the Republican Party because they are trying to “save it from itself” or like my Mother, believes in “states rights to handle education” - where she just wants local control for education (which I have started to turn her on - I am pro federalist at this moment in time for this). But does she agree with the GOP - not on a thing. Does she vote for them? Not a chance in hell.

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:38:29pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:39:07pm

I don’t usually go out of my way to defend Charles from people still holding grudges from the Bush era, because we’ve all got regrettable shit in our pasts and an occasional reminder is useful to keep us on our toes. But if someone’s just going to straight up spread lies that’s different.

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Nyet  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:40:08pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:40:55pm

re: #244 HappyWarrior

The media can annoy me at times but I think they see blood here and are pouncing on it.

Les Moonves got what he wanted… an unloading of his radio station unit in a sweetheart deal which will be given a rubber stamp under the DoJ.

So NOW CBS News can (hopefully) do its fucking job.

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nines09  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:41:03pm

re: #223 (alpuz)

Two. There were two monkeys.

I saw 3, but I’m mad high.

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KGxvi  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:41:41pm

re: #236 EPR-radar

Analysis like this is very sensible and may be a category error. I think the only thing that matters for Trump staying in office is how well he polls among Republicans in state level polling of states with Republican Senators and in district-level polling of (R) congressional districts.

Perhaps. But I tend to think that Trump is at his high water mark now. I think we are going to get a true test of the crazification factor in the next few weeks, and we’re going to get to see if he can drop below 27%.

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:44:24pm

re: #254 Belafon

Navarro and those like her still call themselves Republicans. And there are a number that aren’t paying attention like we do, or even like the nutcase wingers.

Navarro needs to leave the party. Any sane person who calls themselves a Republican is, first and foremost, serving to normalize the brain-dead fascism of Trump and the Republicans.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:44:53pm

re: #265 KGxvi

And we may want to keep tabs on how Chaffetz polls, if any reputable unit is doing that.

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scottslemmons  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:45:11pm

re: #260 teleskiguy

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((clinks champagne glasses))

Here’s to more of the fuckers following him.

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:45:20pm

re: #257 Myron Falwell

Stock up on iodine and make sure your underground civil defense bomb shelter is reinforced.

Hell no. I have absolutely no intention of trying to survive past the fall of civilization.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:46:30pm

re: #266 EPR-radar

IMHO, Ana’s pretty darn close to bailing. It’s only a matter of when.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:46:42pm

re: #267 Myron Falwell

And we may want to keep tabs on how Chaffetz polls, if any reputable unit is doing that.

I’d like to see McMullin primary him. That’d be fun. Maybe Ana Navarro someone in FLA. too bad Rubio just won.

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:47:33pm

The Fuckface Von Clownstick Era: The Death of Irony.

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Anymouse  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:47:51pm

re: #252 EPR-radar

Assuming that 15% can be reached is way optimistic. The reachable Republicans have all left the party by now.

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:48:07pm

re: #259 CongoJack

I have a few of those 15% in my family. A few of them are still in the Republican Party because they are trying to “save it from itself” or like my Mother, believes in “states rights to handle education” - where she just wants local control for education (which I have started to turn her on - I am pro federalist at this moment in time for this). But does she agree with the GOP - not on a thing. Does she vote for them? Not a chance in hell.

My operational definition of ‘Republican’ is anyone who consistently votes (R) over (D) in contested general elections. Registration is not nearly as significant as voting, although I would like to see a steady decline in the number of registered Republicans.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:48:30pm

re: #273 teleskiguy

The Fuckface Von Clownstick Era: The Death of Irony.

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Hahahaha.

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(alpuz)  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:48:39pm

re: #264 nines09

I saw 3, but I’m mad high.

They were moving so fast!

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:48:43pm

Lizard fight!

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MsJ  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:48:44pm

re: #241 makeitstop

The primo takeaway came out of Trump’s own gob numerous times:

The leaks are real.

I feel like I’m in the Matrix.

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jaunte  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:48:57pm
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Republicans are mindlessly destructive.

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:49:33pm

re: #265 KGxvi

Perhaps. But I tend to think that Trump is at his high water mark now. I think we are going to get a true test of the crazification factor in the next few weeks, and we’re going to get to see if he can drop below 27%.

Only his poll numbers among Republicans will matter, because only these numbers can strike fear into Republican members of congress if they get low enough.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:49:35pm

re: #280 jaunte

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Republicans are mindlessly destructive.

Some of my family called about this. Wtf.

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MsJ  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:50:18pm

re: #247 HappyWarrior

I identify as center left. I’m definitely to the left of the Dem leadership and most elected officials but more pragmatic than those who hate ACA because it’s not single payer. My motto politically is pretty much- Progress is a journey not an event.

Single payer was the most fiscally responsible option.

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jaunte  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:50:35pm

re: #282 HappyWarrior

Betsy DeVos: “Bears are attacking our public education system.”

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:50:39pm

re: #265 KGxvi

Perhaps. But I tend to think that Trump is at his high water mark now. I think we are going to get a true test of the crazification factor in the next few weeks, and we’re going to get to see if he can drop below 27%.

That kind of number would take an unmitigated epic level debacle, like an attempted invasion of Iran that was successfully repelled with the loss of two carrier groups, combined with a successful Chinese invasion of Taiwan, a stock market crash, $10 a gallon gas, an ACA repeal with no replacement and a severe undermining of Social Security and Medicare.

I mean with Republicans being such ignorant fucking racist trash it’s going to take A LOT of serious fucking damage to white people to get there.

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:51:43pm

re: #280 jaunte

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jaunte  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:52:55pm

re: #285 goddamnedfrank

That kind of number would take an unmitigated epic level debacle, like an attempted invasion of Iran that was successfully repelled with the loss of two carrier groups, combined with a successful Chinese invasion of Taiwan, a stock market crash, $10 a gallon gas, an ACA repeal with no replacement and a severe undermining of Social Security and Medicare.

Some Texas Republicans would still be celebrating.

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CongoJack  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:52:56pm

re: #281 EPR-radar

That bubble is so thick nothing will get through. My Uncle (who is not as smart as my Mother) still thinks that GWB was the best president. We almost came to blows when I said that Bush let 9/11 happen because of incompetence (this was in 2009). He said that my liberal college was telling me lies. I then laid it all out (wrote a 30 page paper on 9/11 the week prior) - we almost came to blows. Haven’t seen him since (didnt even come to my wedding in November because of this).

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:52:58pm

re: #284 jaunte

Betsy DeVos: “Bears are attacking our public education system.”

Anchorman - Bears Can Smell the Menstruation (brick tamland)

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:52:59pm

re: #285 goddamnedfrank

That kind of number would take an unmitigated epic level debacle, like an attempted invasion of Iran that was successfully repelled with the loss of two carrier groups, combined with a successful Chinese invasion of Taiwan, a stock market crash, $10 a gallon gas, an ACA repeal with no replacement and a severe undermining of Social Security and Medicare.

I mean with Republicans being such ignorant fucking racist trash it’s going to take A LOT of serious fucking damage to white people to get there.

This. We’re talking about getting the pig-people to turn on their God-Emperor.

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electrotek  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:54:05pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

I don’t usually go out of my way to defend Charles from people still holding grudges from the Bush era, because we’ve all got regrettable shit in our pasts and an occasional reminder is useful to keep us on our toes. But if someone’s just going to straight up spread lies that’s different.

Seriously.

It’s the fucking past, you fucktards. Let it go. If I’m able to turn around and be the biggest supporter of LGF now from being the biggest hater (and boy did I hate LGF during the Bush era), then so can they.

Jesus Christ, Charles atoned in the most significant way possible but it’s not enough for these charlatans. Goddamn, they’re worse than jaded ex’s.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:54:19pm

re: #283 MsJ

Single payer was the most fiscally responsible option.

It was but my point is we are where we are and where Obama chose to go.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:55:15pm

re: #284 jaunte

Betsy DeVos: “Bears are attacking our public education system.”

Need to seriously tell my brother about this one, he’s a big wildlife conservation guy.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:55:20pm
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CongoJack  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:55:57pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

re: #283 MsJ

And progress in the right direction. Eventually single payer will happen and it will likely still be called Obamacare.

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jaunte  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:56:17pm
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“…Asked whether federal workers are dissenting in ways that go beyond previous party changes in the White House, Tom Malinow­ski, who was President Barack Obama’s assistant secretary of state for democracy, human rights and labor, said, sarcastically: “Is it unusual? . . . There’s nothing unusual about the entire national security bureaucracy of the United States feeling like their commander in chief is a threat to U.S. national security. That happens all the time. It’s totally usual. Nothing to worry about.”

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wrenchwench  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:56:37pm

re: #278 teleskiguy

Lizard fight!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:56:39pm

re: #294 goddamnedfrank

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If La fucking Page is saying this.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:57:04pm

re: #140 EPR-radar

Not unless they want to experience polonium poisoning.

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:57:21pm

re: #297 wrenchwench

It must be spring here. I saw two today, about that size on a wall. Standing parallel, not fighting.

The Groundhog lied this year!

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:58:03pm
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No one wants this job. It’s radioactive.

He’s going to have to pick one of his kids or some shit.

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Skip Intro  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:58:18pm

re: #280 jaunte

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Republicans are mindlessly destructive.

The apparently want to kill every single thing on earth except white Christian Republicans, and when they run out of everything else you can add “rich” to their protected list.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:58:27pm

re: #295 CongoJack

And progress in the right direction. Eventually single payer will happen and it will likely still be called Obamacare.

Yep. It’s as HRC said, the solution isn’t to gut ACA, it’s to improve it.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:58:57pm

re: #286 EPR-radar

I’m sure Republican ‘thinking’ on this outrage began and ended with the observation that it will piss off liberals.

That constitutes the entirety of Republican “thinking.”

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 2:59:42pm

re: #298 HappyWarrior

If La fucking Page is saying this.

Trump has obviously been a fucking disaster all along. So the only thing left to discover is just what level of bad crazy (if any) will start to reduce his support among Republicans.

Right now Trump could rape a child to death on the white house lawn and most Republicans would still be too busy enjoying the afterglow of beating Hillary Clinton in 2016 to care.

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wrenchwench  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:00:05pm

re: #296 jaunte

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makeitstop  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:00:55pm

Ouch, man…

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Skip Intro  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:02:08pm

re: #301 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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No one wants this job. It’s radioactive.

He’s going to have to pick one of his kids or some shit.

He could put one of Jared’s billionaire pals in the slot, or perhaps Steven Miller. He does have experience, being given the weekend shift while the Trumpsters were on their weekly vacation.

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ObserverArt  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:02:14pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just popping out. You’ll find me in the garden. Digging a shelter.

The Bunker.

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:02:33pm

re: #304 Myron Falwell

That constitutes the entirety of Republican “thinking.”

Almost. Republican support of tax cuts for the rich and total business deregulation is a priori. Everything else is to piss off liberals and pump up their brain-dead base.

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Skip Intro  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:03:21pm

re: #307 makeitstop

Be nice if these people had names.

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makeitstop  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:03:28pm

re: #301 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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No one wants this job. It’s radioactive.

He’s going to have to pick one of his kids or some shit.

Petraeus will jump at it.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:03:46pm

re: #290 EPR-radar

This. We’re talking about getting the pig-people to turn on their God-Emperor.

If GDF’s scenario came to fruition, the pig-people wouldn’t have a chance to turn on Trump. We would be going after them and Trump for blame first.

The GOP’s Balkanization chickens would be coming home to roost.

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Anymouse  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:05:56pm
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Anymouse  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:07:37pm

Jim Wright (Stonekettle) retweets Mr. Johnson:

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Skip Intro  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:07:53pm

re: #312 makeitstop

Petraeus will jump at it.

Allen West is available, I believe.

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makeitstop  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:08:59pm

re: #311 Skip Intro

Be nice if these people had names.

It would. None of them have the requisite courage, though.

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:10:07pm

re: #313 Myron Falwell

If GDF’s scenario came to fruition, the pig-people wouldn’t have a chance to turn on Trump. We would be going after them and Trump for blame first.

The GOP’s Balkanization chickens would be coming home to roost.

Time will tell. If we get a tidal wave of previous non-voters to turn out and vote consistently and heavily against the Republicans for decades, then the pig-people will be outvoted even if none of them see the light.

If we’re stuck with the current electorate, all bets are off. Right now the GOP is within a few state legislature seats of having full control of enough state legislatures to write their own damn constitution.

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jeffreyw  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:10:33pm

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:10:34pm

re: #314 Anymouse

Last I checked, things didn’t turn out quite so good for Gaddafi.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:10:36pm

re: #307 makeitstop

Ouch, man…

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Stanley Sea  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:10:46pm

Every single thing he bitched at Obama about. gah

RTWT

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:13:13pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:13:21pm

re: #318 EPR-radar

I think the problem would be if the deposing if done in a civil manner or through mob mentality that brings everything down.

And such a nightmare scenario not unlike what GDF posed is asking for the absolute worst result possible.

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MsJ  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:14:31pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

It was but my point is we are where we are and where Obama chose to go.

I don’t think he chose. I think the votes did. Not that any of that matters any longer.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:14:51pm

re: #322 Stanley Sea

Every single thing he bitched at Obama about. gah

RTWT

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And people wondered how he managed to lose a billion dollars in a year. His eviction from public housing can’t come fast enough.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:15:13pm

re: #243 CongoJack

This right here is why I came to LGF. I was in the wilderness with Snowden and WL a few years ago not sure how I should feel about them. Then I finally heard a reasoned voice in this area - Bob and Chez - who helped me add, “I’m good with whistle-blowing but not OK with this shit” angle to my personal political philosophy.

I presume in a perfect world this philosophy would be considered centrist (though today it may be considered learning left - ?).

I found that I preferred to visit sites run by those who were originally conservative but had seen the light. My politics has been center-left since Vietnam, but prefer those who have a broader perspective and who may help us see outside the left bubble..

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:15:33pm

re: #325 MsJ

I don’t think he chose. I think the votes did. Not that any of that matters any longer.

Right.

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Citizen K  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:16:17pm

re: #247 HappyWarrior

I identify as center left. I’m definitely to the left of the Dem leadership and most elected officials but more pragmatic than those who hate ACA because it’s not single payer. My motto politically is pretty much- Progress is a journey not an event.

I mean…hell. Politically, the things I support would probably tack me somewhere between Social Democrat, Socialist, or actual Non-Stalinist Communist. I support single payer, I support increased scrutiny on Wall Street, all that stuff.

I just realize this shit doesn’t come out of magical fairy dust and unicorn shit. It comes out of working the system rather than blowing it up. I mean…that will mean doing things like holding Dems like Manchin’s feet to the fire and demanding he act like a dem, but it also means I’m not going to suddenly vote for someone who has no chance against him in a close race because my fee-fees. That’s where I get pissed when the Berners end up becoming representative of the far-left of the Dem party, because of how many act like they dont’ want to be in the Dem party to begin with. Not to mention how often they openly enable asshole libertarians and Republicans because of petty grievance mongering.

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:16:23pm

re: #324 Myron Falwell

I think the problem would be if the deposing if done in a civil manner or through mob mentality that brings everything down.

And such a nightmare scenario not unlike what GDF posed is asking for the absolute worst result possible.

The only reasonable path forward is Trump being impeached and convicted or removed via Article 25.

The problem is that both of these scenarios require some DC Republicans to do the right thing, which is just about impossible.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:16:30pm

re: #318 EPR-radar

Consider the distinct possibility that we won’t be left with the current electorate. What we’re likely to see soon is an attack on voter registration and ease of voting.

That’s what sits just below the scare-mongering about fraud in the last election.

And given the emphasis on hellscape inner cities and drugs, we’re also about to see changes to law enforcement procedure that’s going to accelerate the process of locking up black and brown people.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:16:37pm

Now Reuters

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HappyWarrior  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:17:47pm

re: #332 Stanley Sea

Now Reuters

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Good for Admiral Harward.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:18:51pm

re: #296 jaunte

Resistance from within: Federal workers push back against Trump - ]

These are people whose loyalty is to the country and its laws, not to any particular person.

These are people who plan on working for the US and its people even after the current President has been replaced by the next one. They are not going to active participate in demolishing the things that country has achieved.

These are people who are see their duty in protecting their county above serving the interests of any particular person or party.

In other words, the sort of people DT has no experience or ability in dealing with.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:20:37pm

Chaos

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Sen. Ed Markey on MSNBC: “Let’s be honest, the national security apparatus in our country is in chaos”

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:20:45pm

re: #332 Stanley Sea

Any competent person asked to be Trump’s National Security Advisor must realize their essential purpose will be to normalize the Von Clownstick Adminstration and serve as POTUS Bannon’s mouthpiece.

I hope Trump gets a bunch of resignations and then appoints David Duke in a fit of pique.

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ObserverArt  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:20:56pm

re: #159 Charles Johnson

Maher is less a free speech absolutist than a self-promoting asshole looking for ratings.

Can you tell I’m not a fan? Never have been. I really find his smug self-congratulating brand of “humor” annoying as hell.

I did this shop some time ago…due to similar circumstances with Maher.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:20:56pm

re: #331 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Consider the distinct possibility that we won’t be left with the current electorate. What we’re likely to see soon is an attack on voter registration and ease of voting.

That’s what sits just below the scare-mongering about fraud in the last election.

The only fraud was the widespread voter disenfranchisement. That is only going to accelerate, especially with the stolen Supreme Court seat. The R’s saw the future, rejected it, and are making it into the future they want, which does not include a democracy for much of this country.

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MsJ  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:21:06pm

re: #312 makeitstop

Petraeus will jump at it.

How does Petraeis get a security clearance?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:21:16pm
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MsJ  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:21:57pm

re: #316 Skip Intro

Allen West is available, I believe.

Oh good. No. Just no.

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jaunte  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:22:28pm

“Fox Insider” email just arrived. Pretty late today. They must have had quite a conversation about how to play this.

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Anymouse  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:22:46pm

re: #318 EPR-radar

Time will tell. If we get a tidal wave of previous non-voters to turn out and vote consistently and heavily against the Republicans for decades, then the pig-people will be outvoted even if none of them see the light.

If we’re stuck with the current electorate, all bets are off. Right now the GOP is within a few state legislature seats of having full control of enough state legislatures to write their own damn constitution.

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jaunte  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:22:50pm

MEDIA DISHONESTY

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Stanley Sea  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:23:09pm

re: #336 EPR-radar

Any competent person asked to be Trump’s National Security Advisor must realize their essential purpose will be to normalize the Von Clownstick Adminstration and serve as POTUS Bannon’s mouthpiece.

I hope Trump gets a bunch of resignations and then appoints David Duke in a fit of pique.

Also his threats of war & nuclear nightmares. They probably feel he’ll never listen to them anyway.

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jaunte  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:23:14pm

FAKE NEWS

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:23:29pm

re: #330 EPR-radar

re: #331 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

At the rate this is going, our record of peaceful transfers of power may be coming to an abrupt - and violent - end.

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Jack Burton  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:23:56pm

re: #316 Skip Intro

Allen West is available, I believe.

JHC don’t say that out loud. Don’t give them any ideas.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:24:51pm

re: #345 Stanley Sea

Also his threats of war & nuclear nightmares. They probably feel he’ll never listen to them anyway.

And how long before Mattis resigns? Or will he stick it out because he is afraid for who might replace him?

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makeitstop  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:26:18pm

re: #339 MsJ

How does Petraeis get a security clearance?

How many of his cabinet were even subjected to checks? Trump sees security clearance as unnecessary paperwork.

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jaunte  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:26:37pm
Harward demanded his own team, and the White House resisted. Specifically, Mr. Trump told Deputy National Security Adviser K. T. McFarland that she could retain her post, even after the ouster of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. Harward refused to keep McFarland as his deputy, and after a day of negotiations over this and other staffing matters, Harward declined to serve as Flynn’s replacement.

Worst manager in business history, now worst President in U.S. history.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:27:36pm

re: #338 Hecuba’s daughter

The only fraud was the widespread voter disenfranchisement. That is only going to accelerate, especially with the stolen Supreme Court seat. The R’s saw the future, rejected it, and are making it into the future they want, which does not include a democracy for much of this country.

They think that they will rule over a post-republic US should that happen.

Which is shockingly foolish. They are modern-day Jacobins, while they aspired to be Napoleon.

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Kragar  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:29:38pm
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Anymouse  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:30:14pm
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DuckDharma  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:30:47pm

I also remember Maher pissing off a lot of people last year for the charade with Charlie Sheen’s doctor “curing” his HIV.

The decent thing would be to have Chris Rock make a surprise appearance and ask Milo if he’s fucking the president. Bill Maher -Chris Rock To Ann Coulter “Are You Fucking The President ?”

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:31:28pm
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WASHINGTON (CNN) - The FBI is not expected to pursue any charges against former national security adviser Michael Flynn regarding a phone call with Russia’s ambassador, barring new information that changes what they know, law enforcement officials told CNN Thursday.

[…]

Flynn initially told investigators sanctions were not discussed. But FBI agents challenged him, asking if he was certain that was his answer. He said he didn’t remember.

The FBI interviewers believed Flynn was cooperative and provided truthful answers. Although Flynn didn’t remember all of what he talked about, they don’t believe he was intentionally misleading them, the officials say.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:31:30pm

Heh

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:32:10pm

re: #347 Myron Falwell

At the rate this is going, our record of peaceful transfers of power may be coming to an abrupt - and violent - end.

Back in the day, I remember thinking that the only reason I could see for W Bush to leave office peacefully that would be meaningful to Republicans is that an attempt by Bush to stay on by force would be bad for business.

Today’s Republicans aren’t so constrained in what passes for their thinking.

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KGxvi  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:32:26pm

re: #342 jaunte

“Fox Insider” email just arrived. Pretty late today. They must have had quite a conversation about how to play this.

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They need a better copy editor, missed the “L” in “Dishonestly”

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Stanley Sea  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:32:55pm

re: #351 jaunte

Worst manager in business history, now worst President in U.S. history.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:34:33pm

FAKE NEWS==>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:35:03pm

re: #278 teleskiguy

Lizard fight!

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foreplay…nothing to see here….mind yer own bidness…

:D

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:35:28pm

re: #351 jaunte

Worst manager in business history, now worst President in U.S. history.

Ulysses S. Grant was both a shitty businessman and a shitty president, but this has him outdone rather handily on day 27.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:36:39pm

re: #363 Myron Falwell

Ulysses S. Grant was both a shitty businessman and a shitty president, but this has him outdone rather handily on day 27.

He was a good General and a great drunk.

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MsJ  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:36:52pm

re: #361 The Vicious Babushka

FAKE NEWS==>

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Insightful? WTF?

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jaunte  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:37:10pm

re: #361 The Vicious Babushka

“Pres. Trump comes out firing through his own feet in delusional, combative, chaotic, longer-than-he-wanted news conference.”

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:38:50pm

re: #361 The Vicious Babushka

President* Trump drops his pants and defecates in the general direction of the press pool, calls it a ‘press conference’.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:41:58pm

re: #365 MsJ

Insightful? WTF?

Pants-shittingly scary is the new “insightful.”

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TedStriker  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:42:58pm

re: #367 EPR-radar

President* Trump drops his pants and defecates in the general direction of the press pool, calls it a ‘press conference’.

Either that or he whips out his teeny little weenis and pees in the press pool.

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EPR-radar  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:43:46pm

I think President* Trump or POTUS* Trump should become a thing on social media. The asterisk will bug the hell out of the Orange Menace.

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Bubblehead II  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:44:38pm

Night Lizards.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:47:12pm

re: #369 TedStriker

Either that or he whips out his teeny little weenis and pees in the press pool.

SMOTI would probably join him in that.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:48:35pm

re: #365 MsJ

Insightful? WTF?

Wasn’t it Insightful to many watching? They now have the insight into how demented the President actually is. Except of course for the Trumpers who are as demented as their leader.

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InfidelOfFreedom  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:52:07pm

MSNBC’s best new hire in years.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:52:49pm

re: #363 Myron Falwell

Ulysses S. Grant was both a shitty businessman and a shitty president, but this has him outdone rather handily on day 27.

I will defend his presidency in that he protected the rights of southern African-Americans during Reconstruction.

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Anymouse  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:55:42pm
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Eventual Carrion  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:56:37pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Nope Chris, Trump could shoot a reporter on stage and his supporters would applaud it just like they’re applauding this clown show.

WWE cult of personality.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:57:48pm

re: #339 MsJ

How does Petraeis get a security clearance?

He has to get permission from his probation officer first…

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Anymouse  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:58:18pm
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KGxvi  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:59:27pm

re: #377 Eventual Carrion

WWE cult of personality.

Wrestlemania is in Orlando in about a month and a half… I’m actually curious what kind of reaction “WWE Hall of Famer President Donald Trump” would get.

I’d also love to see him take another Stone Cold Stunner, but I’m guessing that won’t happen (mainly because Austin’s back is messed up to the point where he can’t do them anymore)

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Dave In Austin  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:59:37pm

re: #377 Eventual Carrion

WWE cult of personality.

When do they start calling for public executions?

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 16, 2017 • 3:59:41pm

re: #340 goddamnedfrank

Why can I only upvote and retweet that once? That one’s worth about 10 upvotes.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:01:17pm

re: #381 Dave In Austin

When do they start calling for public executions?

That would be when the Fingerpoke of Doom takes place.

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KGxvi  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:01:20pm

re: #373 Hecuba’s daughter

Wasn’t it Insightful to many watching? They now have the insight into how demented the President actually is. Except of course for the Trumpers who are as demented as their leader.

Yeah, it was insightful in the sense of “holy shit, the old man really has lost his damn mind.”

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Anymouse  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:01:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:02:21pm

re: #354 Anymouse

I posted about that that earlier downstairs:

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BigPapa  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:02:27pm
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KGxvi  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:03:09pm

re: #385 Anymouse

in fairness, they are judging Trump by the reaction of the same group they judged Obama… angry old white people who are convinced the help and/or the nurse is stealing their money.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:04:09pm

re: #356 teleskiguy

AGAIN… FBI doesn’t file charges, they investigate.

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KGxvi  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:04:17pm

re: #387 BigPapa

I’m fairly certain we’re in the Tyson Zone with Trump, right?

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:05:38pm

re: #387 BigPapa

Mickey Rourke

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BigPapa  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:05:55pm

re: #390 KGxvi

I did think of adding Tyson, also Allen Iverson.

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plansbandc  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:06:09pm

re: #361 The Vicious Babushka

Insightful…?

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:06:33pm

Well whaddya know.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:07:25pm

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It must be stopped clocked time…

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Myron Falwell  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:08:26pm

re: #387 BigPapa

Gary Busey.

Gary Busey in a Straight Jacket!

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Anymouse  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:09:14pm

re: #388 KGxvi

in fairness, they are judging Trump by the reaction of the same group they judged Obama… angry old white people who are convinced the help and/or the nurse is stealing their money.

I wonder where pollsters actually call.

Not here for sure. I have a landline with no caller ID: Presumably if someone called I would answer (and I would be more than happy to answer a pollster).

I have never received a poll call in my entire life. I presume that’s true for most people (there are hundreds of millions of Americans), but what criteria do pollsters use for making calls?

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BigPapa  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:09:24pm

Damn, how could I forget Busey.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:11:55pm

Bill O’Reilly ridiculed comparing Russia scandal to Watergate despite Fox News spending Obama’s tenure comparing stuff to Watergate:

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Interesting Times  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:11:59pm

Ominous subtweet is ominous:

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:12:41pm

re: #361 The Vicious Babushka

FAKE NEWS==>

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The first I heard of today’s madness was from my father emailing me to tell me that watching the press conference made him feel sick. I watched the recording and have to agree.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:13:50pm

re: #392 BigPapa

I did think of adding Tyson, also Allen Iverson.

Hey, don’t diss my man Iverson.

Practice!

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:14:21pm

Do it!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:14:45pm

re: #401 Interesting Times

Ominous subtweet is ominous:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:16:47pm

Watch for the pivot. Any day now. Just watch. He’ll settle down and take it all seriously. Any day now. Really. Trust me.
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So, from my reading of the polling, the exit polling etc., the reason Trump won was that undecideds who hated both Clinton and Trump largely went to Trump. I think most of them were either disengaged from politics, or, like many on the GOP side, saw how Trump was acting and assumed that he’d calm down.

Clearly, those people made a bad bet.

What I don’t know, but suspect from current polling, is that most of those people are not favorably impressed with what they got. As time goes on, and Trump keeps acting like this, I believe that that disappointment will harden into dislike and disapproval.

Meanwhile, the ranting, raving, incoherent, bullshit-spewing guy so clearly out of his depth is - for reasons I do not understand - EXACTLY what ~33-39% of America wanted. THAT’S why they look at this frighteningly incompetent performance and think, “Yeah, that’s what a President SHOULD be!!”

And that’s who Trump cares about. Note his answer to the question about angry constituents at the Congressional Town Halls - “They are not the Republican people that our representatives represent.” He believes the only people you represent as an elected official are the ones who voted for you. I suspect he may have given up on the remaining 60% of America, and that’s what this presser and tomorrow’s rally are about. He’s found it too difficult to be President of the United States, so he’s going to be President of the Red States, and only the ones in those states who voted for him. So he’s going back to ‘his people’ for the adulation that most Americans won’t give him.

I do not see this working out to give him a second term, or even a good midterm election.

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KGxvi  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:16:51pm

re: #397 Anymouse

I wonder where pollsters actually call.

Not here for sure. I have a landline with no caller ID: Presumably if someone called I would answer (and I would be more than happy to answer a pollster).

I have never received a poll call in my entire life. I presume that’s true for most people (there are hundreds of millions of Americans), but what criteria do pollsters use for making calls?

From what I remember from the classes I took on polling many, many years ago, they do try to randomize it, using auto dialers that should give them a random sample. What you have to remember is there’s 313 million Americans, about 218 million are eligible to vote, and about 147 million are registered (turn out last time was about 130 million). But most polls, even nation wide ones, include somewhere between 500-1000 respondents. So, even if we go with 130m (call that “likely voters”) and we get 1000 of them, you’re still talking less than .1% of the total pool.

Once they collect the data, they’ll weigh numbers to better match the population. For example, their random sample might over represent a certain age, race, religion, or income category and that could throw results off. So they try to weigh results to better reflect results.

So, basically, it’s magic.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:18:25pm

re: #406 teleskiguy

Do it!

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Which online sources do you use? (Select as many that apply.)
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National Review
Weekly Standard
Free Beacon
Daily Caller
American Spectator
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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:18:36pm

re: #406 teleskiguy

For the personal information at the bottom of the survey, I put my name as Heywood Jablome and used Andrew “weev” Auernheimer’s email address and the zip code for Trump Tower.

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teleskiguy  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:19:42pm

I’m not giving my email address to anything that has to do with Fuckface Von Clownstick. Don’t want to deal with the spam.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:21:06pm

re: #397 Anymouse

re: #409 KGxvi

I get polling calls several times a week. Most are robo polls, but the ones that have humans calling always ask for money.
I love having Caller ID. Not only do I not answer, I unplug the landline phone for a few minutes. Or, if I’m in a mood, I pick up and either stay silent or just spout polite gibberish until they hang up.
Either way, those particular numbers stop calling.

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Anymouse  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:21:32pm

re: #408 Blind Frog Belly White

Watch for the pivot. Any day now. Just watch. He’ll settle down and take it all seriously. Any day now. Really. Trust me.
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… cut …

And that’s who Trump cares about. Note his answer to the question about angry constituents at the Congressional Town Halls - “They are not the Republican people that our representatives represent.” He believes the only people you represent as an elected official are the ones who voted for you. I suspect he may have given up on the remaining 60% of America, and that’s what this presser and tomorrow’s rally are about. He’s found it too difficult to be President of the United States, so he’s going to be President of the Red States, and only the ones in those states who voted for him. So he’s going back to ‘his people’ for the adulation that most Americans won’t give him.

I do not see this working out to give him a second term, or even a good midterm election.

And that is exactly what my representative says: He represents Republicans, not everyone in the district. This is not unique to Donald Trump.

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Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:21:50pm

re: #294 goddamnedfrank

Sadly, the headline is misleading.

Republican Gov. Paul LePage, a supporter of President Donald Trump, said Thursday morning that too many people are vying for power within the White House and that the President should stop treating it like a TV show.

“The thing I’m sensing is that there’s three or four chiefs at the top,” the Maine governor told Newsradio WGAN.
“I would say this: You’ve got to put someone somebody in charge.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:22:40pm

re: #415 Clearly a Country For Sick Old Haters

“I would say this: You’ve got to put someone somebody in charge.”

Apparently LePage hasn’t met President Bannon yet.

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Anymouse  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:23:03pm

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

I get polling calls several times a week. Most are robo polls, but the ones that have humans calling always ask for money.
I love having Caller ID. Not only do I not answer, I unplug the landline phone for a few minutes. Or, if I’m in a mood, I pick up and either stay silent or just spout polite gibberish until they hang up.
Either way, those particular numbers stop calling.

As I noted, I would be happy to answer polls. (As of yet, I have not seen a dial phone with a caller ID on it, though you can buy a separate caller ID box.) I don’t even get robo calls, except from dubious charities.

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KGxvi  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:26:18pm

re: #417 Anymouse

As I noted, I would be happy to answer polls. (As of yet, I have not seen a dial phone with a caller ID on it, though you can buy a separate caller ID box.) I don’t even get robo calls, except from dubious charities.

I’ve gotten two in my life. Once on my cell and once on a land line when I was living with my folks. Another aspect of it is that pollsters have probably found certain areas of the country that are a microcosm of the the entire country, so they might focus on those places. Sort of the old “but does it play in Peoria?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:27:02pm

re: #417 Anymouse

the robo poll calls I get are always GOP push polls.
The ones asking for money are almost always anti-PP/anti-choice groups. I can only assume that they believe that because I’m a registered republican I must automatically be in line with their idiotic beliefs.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:27:37pm

Notes from the field:

Just came back from running a few errands by taxi. The local immigrants (Salvadoran taxi driver, Indian pharmacist) are still convinced that non-immigrant America has totally lost it’s shit and we’re scaring the bejesus out of them so please stop it because they left their countries to get away from corruption & bad crazy.

They really, really don’t get it. It’s like, “You guys had it made—everyone wanted to come here, I mean this is America where anybody can do/be anything—yet you’ve voluntarily chosen to throw it all away by letting this jackass run it into the ground? WHY, FFS??

She was telling me that everyone in her family is an immigrant and it’s freaking them out. At least the pharmacist was happy to see that I was fine with getting all the free shots available through my insurance (flu, pneumonia, & Tdap—tetanus/diphtheria/pertussis). She was happy not to be dealing with an anti-vaxxer—you should’ve seen her eye-roll when I mentioned that. People from countries where they’ve recently had to fight many childhood diseases can’t quite grok why people in America would risk letting any of those dread diseases return and strike down their children.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:29:35pm

re: #420 CuriousLurker

But of course, a new thread. 😒

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 16, 2017 • 4:33:50pm

re: #420 CuriousLurker

Notes from the field:

Just came back form running a few errands by taxi. The local immigrants (Salvadoran taxi driver, Indian pharmacist) are still convinced that non-immigrant America has totally lost it’s shit and we’re scaring the bejesus out of them so please stop it because tey left their countries to get away from corruption & bad crazy.

They really, really don’t get it. It’s like, “You guys had it made—everyone wanted to come here, I mean this is America where anybody can do/be anything—yet you’ve voluntarily chosen to throw it all away by letting this jackass run it into the ground? WHY, FFS??

At least the pharmacist was happy to see that I was fine with getting all the free shots available through my insurance (flu, pneumonia, & Tdap—tetanus/diphtheria/pertussis). She was telling me that everyone in her family is an immigrant and it’s freaking them out. At least she was happy not to be dealing with an anti-vaxxer—you should’ve seen her eye-roll when I mentioned that. People from countries where they’ve recently had to fight many childhood diseases can’t quite grok why people in America would risk letting any of those dread diseases return and strike down their children.

I really, really don’t get it either. I think most of Trump’s strongest supporters would prefer a backwards, poor nation to a modern, wealthy powerful nation, if that’s what it took to keep it a White Christian Nation. The thing is, they’ve convinced themselves it’s ALREADY a backwards, poor nation BECAUSE it isn’t a White Christian Nation anymore, and the only way to make it back into a modern, wealthy, powerful nation is by making it a White Christian Nation again.

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Ubiq  Feb 16, 2017 • 8:51:15pm
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To be fair, they were a threat to our schoolchildren.

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Ubiq  Feb 16, 2017 • 8:51:35pm

Welp, can’t delete.


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