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Kragar  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:09:53pm
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Kragar  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:10:59pm
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Kragar  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:13:34pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:15:13pm

James Comey, what did he know and when did he know it? Why the stupid fucking Clinton email October Surprise? Why did he make that investigation public but not Fuckface Von Clownstick’s investigation?

Bullshit all around.

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Jenner7  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:21:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:21:52pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:22:11pm

re: #4 teleskiguy

My theory is as follows: Comey was supposed to get something from Trump and did not. Now he (Comey) is going all out on Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:22:45pm

re: #5 Jenner7

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well, Rex has to check on his big oil deal to make sure it’s still a go…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:24:10pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:27:27pm

re: #5 Jenner7

Reuters reporting exclusively: Rex Tillerson is going to skip the NATO meeting on April 5 and 6 and will visit Russia in late April

When all the treaties are round-filed, how long will it take Germany to field a force de frappe?

(Yeah, French. The Germans never had to develop a Deutsch term for it. Yet)

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S'latch  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:29:41pm

That was the most intense Olbermann yet. I love the ending.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:30:15pm
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nines09  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:31:58pm

This was in front of the American people…..But her emails…and the guns….and the pure unadulterated hate born of decades of smears and lies won. Sure looks like she knew what she was talking about.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:34:12pm

winner:

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:36:40pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:39:18pm

re: #7 PhillyPretzel

My theory is as follows: Comey was supposed to get something from Trump and did not. Now he (Comey) is going all out on Trump.

Die In Jail is what our agencies are after at this point. Ugly AF and I’m all in. Let his name replace Quisling.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:39:45pm

re: #1 Kragar

About damn time.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:41:30pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

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Decatur Deb  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:43:22pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel

About damn time.

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Only seen bits and pieces, but it sounds like the Feds are looking at the RW sites as unwitting victims of sophisticated bot work, for the most part. Freepers are still wetting themselves over the unfair ‘targeting’.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:44:15pm

happy equinox everybody!

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:45:21pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thank you. I needed that. :)

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:46:16pm

re: #16 Unshaken Defiance

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:46:35pm

re: #21 PhillyPretzel

Thank you. I needed that. :)

temperature here got up to the 60s this afternoon.
those h*ckin ladybugs have been divebombing me ever since…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:47:47pm
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freetoken  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:48:55pm

The key-jangler gets an official office:

Trump daughter Ivanka to get West Wing office

President Donald Trump’s daughter, Ivanka Trump, is getting an office in the White House West Wing, stepping up her highly visible role in helping advise her father.

A White House official on Monday confirmed reports that Trump’s 35-year-old daughter would be getting her own West Wing space, as well as access to classified information and a government-issued phone.

[…]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:49:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:50:23pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:52:06pm

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:52:29pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:53:13pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

Absolutely. McConnell needs to be forced to end the filibuster to get the Gorsuch nomination through the Senate.

The Republican party is garbage from top to bottom and from side to side. There is absolutely no reason for Democrats to cooperate with any of the damage the Republicans want to inflict on the nation.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:53:40pm

re: #19 Decatur Deb

Only seen bits and pieces, but it sounds like the Feds are looking at the RW sites as unwitting victims of sophisticated bot work, for the most part. Freepers are still wetting themselves over the unfair ‘targeting’.

If they can find a liberal website that was sucked in by Russki bots, they are welcome to present it.
Stories from RT and Sputnik are routinely and approvingly posted at Freep. My term “trollski” is widely and immediately understood there so they can hardly claim ignorance or deny the basis for the “targeting.” They are willing victims and cooperative dupes.

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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:55:28pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:55:31pm

The comrades are getting nasty; truthful but nasty.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:56:56pm

re: #28 Unshaken Defiance

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:58:27pm

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel

I know others here have said it before, but the construction on that dress would have gotten a D grade in home ec back in the good old days.
And Ivanka makes huge money on that crap.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:58:35pm

“unwittingly”
*snort*

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Charles Johnson  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:58:56pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 20, 2017 • 6:59:34pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know others here have said it before, but the construction on that dress would have gotten a D grade in home ec back in the good old days.
And Ivanka makes huge money on that crap.

What kind of quality do you expect from 8-year-olds working 16-hours a day?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:00:11pm

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

“unwittingly”
*snort*

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When dealing with the RW, “witless” is the default explanation.

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gocart mozart  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:00:40pm

Laurence H. Tribe, the Carl M. Loeb University Professor and Professor of Constitutional Law at Harvard, has taught at its Law School since 1968 and was voted the best professor by the graduating class of 2000. The title “University Professor” is Harvard’s highest academic honor, awarded to just a handful of professors at any given time and to just 68 professors in all of Harvard University’s history. Born in China to Russian Jewish parents, Tribe entered Harvard in 1958 at 16; graduated summa cum laude in Mathematics (1962) and magna cum laude in Law (1966); clerked for the California and U.S. Supreme Courts(1966-68); received tenure at 30; was elected to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences at 38 and to the American Philosophical Society in 2010; helped write the constitutions of South Africa, the Czech Republic, and the Marshall Islands; has received eleven honorary degrees, most recently a degree honoris causa from the Government of Mexico in March 2011 that was never before awarded to an American and an honorary D. Litt. From Columbia University; has prevailed in three-fifths of the many appellate cases he has argued (including 35 in the U.S. Supreme Court); was appointed in 2010 by President Obama and Attorney General Holder to serve as the first Senior Counselor for Access to Justice; and has written 115 books and articles, including his treatise, American Constitutional Law, cited more than any other legal text since 1950. Former Solicitor General Erwin Griswold wrote: “[N]o book, and no lawyer not on the [Supreme] Court, has ever had a greater influence on the development of American constitutional law,” and the Northwestern Law Review opined that no-one else “in American history has… simultaneously achieved Tribe’s preeminence… as a practitioner and… scholar of constitutional law.”

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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:00:58pm

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! That’s some satire that cuts to the bone.

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:00:59pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s so bad. All their products are crap.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:01:29pm

o.m.g.

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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:02:08pm

re: #39 Decatur Deb

When dealing with the RW, “witless” is the default explanation.

The other main rule is to embrace the healing power of ‘and’ when determining why RWNJs do the things that they do: stupidity and malice is almost always the answer.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:03:04pm

re: #44 EPR-radar

Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.

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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:03:49pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

This will be the Republican party platform a few years from now.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:04:23pm

re: #45 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.

Always check for a well-waxed moustache.

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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:05:13pm

re: #45 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.

True. There’s a serious level of both convergence and positive feedback there. Some time ago I ran into the statement that “stupidity is evil waiting to happen”. The waiting has now been dispensed with.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:05:54pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

o.m.g.

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Too easy to do a double-secret false flag.

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Varek Raith  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:08:35pm

Добрый вечер

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:09:09pm

re: #48 EPR-radar

We don’t have a catchy word for “prideful ignorance so great it’s a kind of joy.”

Because that’s where the malice/ignorance plots intersect: the point where it’s just so fun to destroy anything that makes you doubt.

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nines09  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:10:21pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think I met that person more than a few times. It’s why mayhem dances behind my eyes at times.

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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:10:32pm

re: #50 Varek Raith

Добрый вечер

Товарищ! Это хороший день, у Трампа был плохой день.

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:10:40pm
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Bass Reeves  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:10:52pm

A couple of things floating around my headspace today, thought my timing would allow me to put them out here:

1) What law are we referring to when we say Obama couldn’t order a wiretap? I have looked around, but I haven’t seen anybody reference an actual specific law prohibiting it. Personally, I can think of a couple of ways Obama could have set the conditions without specifically saying ‘bug the tower’.

2) I am under the impression that Comey really didn’t expect Trump to win. Comey I think played himself by trying to keep a sexy investigation under wraps until after the election, and also hang an early scandal around HRC’s neck. In my thinking, the email thing pops up a couple of times just enough to pull her numbers down *but still elected*, to reduce conversation about the mandate. And then the FBI/Comey get to look super competent when basically obliterating a Russian spy ring a couple of months later (before she gets into office so she can’t take credit). He was still trying to play the game, but I can’t imagine based off of anything he’s said/done, that he actually WANTED Trump in office. He’s just not nearly as smart as he thought he was, and the American people are FAR more racist than we assumed on Nov 8 2016.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:12:00pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:12:28pm

re: #51 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

We don’t have a catchy word for “prideful ignorance so great it’s a kind of joy.”

Because that’s where the malice/ignorance plots intersect: the point where it’s just so fun to destroy anything that makes you doubt.

The British are well ahead of us. We musn’t let a Blimp Gap develop.

en.wikipedia.org

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Varek Raith  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:12:40pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

Товарищ! Это хороший день, у Трампа был плохой день.

В самом деле.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:14:01pm

re: #55 Bass Reeves
IMHO
1) The law such as it is put the whole surveillance thing elsewhere from the executive.
2) Comey has had great moments of incompetence, interrupted by adequate behavior from time to time.

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Citizen K  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:15:12pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

o.m.g.

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….what the fuck.

What kind of callous heart drives someone to write that,, much less actually give that to someone? I mean, what kind of person tells someone ‘I’m glad your children are dead, loser’? Holy fuck.

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:17:18pm

re: #55 Bass Reeves

aclu.org

In 1978, largely in response to unlawful and improper surveillance by the executive branch, Congress passed FISA to regulate surveillance conducted for foreign intelligence purposes. Under FISA, when the government seeks to conduct certain types of surveillance on U.S. soil, it is generally required to apply for and obtain an individualized order from a judge on the FISA Court. If an American is the target of the surveillance, that application must be reviewed and approved by the attorney general before it goes to the FISA Court.

The Guardian reported that, last summer, the FBI sought an order from the FISA Court for permission to monitor four members of the Trump campaign team suspected of “irregular contacts” with Russian officials. Reports suggest that the initial application was denied — a detail President Trump appears to have confirmed in his tweets. But, according to other news reports, a judge on the FISA Court eventually granted a narrower surveillance application in October 2016. While these accounts all indicate that the FBI relied on FISA to conduct its spying, we don’t know exactly whom the FBI sought to target or on what grounds. One story suggests that the government ultimately obtained permission to target individuals or entities in Russia who were believed to be communicating with then-candidate Trump and at least three other members of the Trump campaign. Because the identities of the “targets” named in the wiretap order are still unknown, it’s unclear whom, exactly, the FISA Court found to be a foreign agent when it authorized the surveillance.

Regardless of who the target was, however, it is critical to note that this FISA surveillance would have been individually approved by a court and could not simply have been conducted on President Obama’s order — a point made clearly in a statement released over the weekend by a spokesperson for the former president. Indeed, that was the very type of abuse that FISA was enacted to prevent.

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stpaulbear  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:17:24pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel

If they can find a liberal website that was sucked in by Russki bots, they are welcome to present it.
Stories from RT and Sputnik are routinely and approvingly posted at Freep. My term “trollski” is widely and immediately understood there so they can hardly claim ignorance or deny the basis for the “targeting.” They are willing victims and cooperative dupes.

TYT. Doesn’t Cenk Uygur work for RT?

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Bass Reeves  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:18:22pm

re: #59 Unshaken Defiance

1) The law such as it is put the whole surveillance thing elsewhere from the executive.

I am not entirely sure this is true. My training on EO 12333 does not *quite* dovetail on this, hence my original question.

2) Comey has had great moments of incompetence, interrupted by adequate behavior from time to time.

Well yeah, so why did Obama pick him? Or is the bar that low?

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:19:27pm

re: #60 Citizen K

….what the fuck.

What kind of callous heart drives someone to write that,, much less actually give that to someone? I mean, what kind of person tells someone ‘I’m glad your children are dead, loser’? Holy fuck.

trump fanatic

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Varek Raith  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:19:53pm

Good evening, comrades!

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Citizen K  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:21:24pm

re: #64 Stanley Sea

trump fanatic

God. You know what else this reminds me of? Trump’s other bestie in Asia, Duterte.

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stpaulbear  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:21:34pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

“Read about her. This German reporter took on Trump. Now she’s being hailed at home”

I don’t understand why some frustrated reporter didn’t ask Spicer that question at today’s shitshow of a presser. He needs to be asked why he lies about everything at every press conference. It’s a no-brainer.

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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:21:37pm

re: #55 Bass Reeves

Comey has been a Republican hack since the Whitewater witch hunt vs. Bill Clinton.

I see Comey as being the same as Chief Justice Roberts, in that both are still capable of recognizing reality, and both do as much as they can within that reality to advance the wingnut cause.

So if there is a painless way for Comey to sabotage the investigation without leaving his tracks on the cover-up, he will do so.

However, Comey will not take a fall for Trump, and he will not engage in the level of blatant lying typical of Trump and his supporters.

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Citizen K  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:22:08pm

re: #67 stpaulbear

I don’t understand why some frustrated reporter didn’t ask Spicer that question at today’s shitshow of a presser. He needs to be asked why he lies about everything at every press conference. It’s a no-brainer.

Because our press corp values access over integrity.

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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:22:27pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:22:38pm

re: #63 Bass Reeves

Well yeah, so why did Obama pick him? Or is the bar that low?

Obama fucked that up.

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Citizen K  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:25:05pm

re: #63 Bass Reeves

I am not entirely sure this is true. My training on EO 12333 does not *quite* dovetail on this, hence my original question.

Well yeah, so why did Obama pick him? Or is the bar that low?

Because he was pressured to be ‘bipartisan’ and have a ‘Cabinet of Rivals’, have a Republican perspective, etc. Something Obama clearly took to heart as a matter of principle initially, and that got him taken advantage of time, and time, and time a-fucking-gain. Because bipartisanship only runs one direction in this country.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:25:39pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:26:05pm

re: #67 stpaulbear

I don’t understand why some frustrated reporter didn’t ask Spicer that question at today’s shitshow of a presser. He needs to be asked why he lies about everything at every press conference. It’s a no-brainer.

Major news organization should jointly release the following statement: “We will no longer send reporters to White House press briefings under the Trump administration because this administration does nothing but lie. All future reporting will be on their actions as opposed to their lying statements.”

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Varek Raith  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:27:22pm
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Archangelus  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:27:37pm

Fox News Ditches Napolitano

Fox News pulled senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano off the air indefinitely following growing controversy over his dubious claim that Barack Obama used the British intelligence services to wiretap Trump Tower during the 2016 presidential election, the LA Times reports.

Napolitano made the claim last Tuesday, in an interview with “Fox and Friends.”

“Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command,” Napolitano said. “He didn’t use the NSA, he didn’t use the CIA, he didn’t use the FBI and he didn’t use the Department of Justice. He used GCHQ [Government Communications Headquarters].”

And earlier, The Blaze suspended blonde hypocrite commentator Tomi Lahren.

Today is definitely not anywhere near a good day for many among the American right…

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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:28:02pm

re: #72 Citizen K

Because he was pressured to be ‘bipartisan’ and have a ‘Cabinet of Rivals’, have a Republican perspective, etc. Something Obama clearly took to heart as a matter of principle initially, and that got him taken advantage of time, and time, and time a-fucking-gain. Because bipartisanship only runs one direction in this country.

See also the tale of the scorpion and the frog.

Edited to add: ‘Republican perspective’ is a good one these days. What perspective would that be? That their Lord and Master Satan unfairly got bad press in that War with Heaven affair?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:28:40pm

re: #73 Stanley Sea

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Sadly, the EPA offices really should be trashing the cookies.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:29:30pm
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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:30:20pm

re: #77 EPR-radar

See also the tale of the scorpion and the frog.

We had definitely seen signs of the collapse of bipartisanship on the right when Clinton was elected, but having a black man get elected signified to the whight (white right) that their time was coming to an end, and they are going to fight every step of the way until they lose that power.

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Varek Raith  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:30:41pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart

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Classic Signs of a Cover Up 101.

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Bass Reeves  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:30:46pm

re: #61 Belafon

Thank you. I’m not sure that’s quite the question I’m asking, but that answers the question ‘who approves a wiretap request’. Not the same (pedantically) as ‘who ordered the FBI to conduct surveillance of a subject’.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:30:49pm

re: #62 stpaulbear

TYT. Doesn’t Cenk Uygur work for RT?

He certainly has a lot to say to them, being a frequent interview subject. I don’t now whether he is actually on the payroll. Alex Jones and Shithead Roger Stone once barged into his show and threatened him.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:33:17pm

re: #63 Bass Reeves

I am not entirely sure this is true. My training on EO 12333 does not *quite* dovetail on this, hence my original question.

Well yeah, so why did Obama pick him? Or is the bar that low?

I regard that pick as a mistake. An honest yet unforced error.

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Varek Raith  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:33:49pm

I wonder how many GOPers are realizing just how many red flags they are raising with their refusal to investigate Trump. Their base may ignore it, but the FBI/CIA/NSA sure as hell won’t.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:35:56pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

o.m.g.

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But don’t call them deplorable!

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:36:44pm

re: #82 Bass Reeves

Thank you. I’m not sure that’s quite the question I’m asking, but that answers the question ‘who approves a wiretap request’. Not the same (pedantically) as ‘who ordered the FBI to conduct surveillance of a subject’.

From what I heard about Obama and the wire tap issue, there is no legal wall between the president and the FBI, but Obama, being the constitutional scholar, maintained the wall. Thus, no requests were made by him. Trump, being Trump, could and probably will attempt to violate that wall, but Obama left them mostly alone, as seen by Comey’s “Let me tell you about the emails” moments.

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Archangelus  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:37:26pm

re: #76 Archangelus

Now also this:
Rawstory: Breitbart, Infowars under Investigation for Russian Ties

WASHINGTON — Federal investigators are examining whether far-right news sites played any role last year in a Russian cyber operation that dramatically widened the reach of news stories — some fictional — that favored Donald Trump’s presidential bid, two people familiar with the inquiry say.

Operatives for Russia appear to have strategically timed the computer commands, known as “bots,” to blitz social media with links to the pro-Trump stories at times when the billionaire businessman was on the defensive in his race against Democrat Hillary Clinton, these sources said.

The bots’ end products were largely millions of Twitter and Facebook posts carrying links to stories on conservative internet sites such as Breitbart News and InfoWars, as well as on the Kremlin-backed RT News and Sputnik News, the sources said. Some of the stories were false or mixed fact and fiction, said the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the bot attacks are part of an FBI-led investigation into a multifaceted Russian operation to influence last year’s elections…

I hereby modify my previous statement: Today is absolutely a terrible day for anyone identifying with the U.S. political right…

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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:37:56pm

re: #84 Unshaken Defiance

I regard that pick as a mistake. An honest yet unforced error.

It’s a strange blunder for Obama to have made. Comey was named FBI director by Obama in 2013. By then it must have been excruciatingly clear to Obama that there is no working with Republicans.

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Citizen K  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:39:11pm

re: #85 Varek Raith

I wonder how many GOPers are realizing just how many red flags they are raising with their refusal to investigate Trump. Their base may ignore it, but the FBI/CIA/NSA sure as hell won’t.

But that’s the thing: how much will they be able to do with a fully compromised executive branch? Even if they drop massive bombshells, how much will it matter without things like DoJ orders to act?

My fear is that GOPers are full circling the wagons because the plan is to simply ignore and deflect all they can until it’s too late to change anything they do: by the time the public really gets fed up to the point of revolt, they may already ‘win’ everything they wanted to the point it won’t matter.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:42:46pm

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel

The comrades are getting nasty; truthful but nasty.

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A FB friend says right wingers would be setting their hair on fire if Hillary had given Chelsea a similar position. I found a helpful illustration:

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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:44:03pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:45:43pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

Frankly My Dear … @goddamnedfrank
Shit’s just in your face now.


9:35 PM - 20 Mar 2017
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Not afraid are they?

Most politicians would distance themselves from Russia to let the fires die down. These guys are all in. They must think this will be looked at as a sign they are not scared of the insinuations of all the fake news and fake intelligence agencies.

Or it is a giant fuck you to everyone…which it may also be knowing Trump.

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Varek Raith  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:45:56pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

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JADE HELM 2

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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:48:13pm

re: #93 ObserverArt

Not afraid are they?

Most politicians would distance themselves from Russia to let the fires die down. These guys are all in. They must think this will be looked at as a sign they are not scared of the insinuations of all the fake news and fake intelligence agencies.

Or it is a giant fuck you to everyone…which it may also be knowing Trump.

Tillerson has $500,000,000,000 reasons to pretend that it’s business as usual with Russia.

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freetoken  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:50:42pm

shark very interested in the ROV:

Camera 2: Exploring Remote Pacific MPAs

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Joe Bacon  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:51:39pm

So the RepubliKKKlan leadership just added a bunch of amendments to their Obamacare replacement

cnn.com

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Archangelus  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:52:18pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

o.m.g.

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Good Dog, who the f*ck does that? To a mourning father????
I had to deal with actual terrorists in the past who qualified as better human beings than this scum!

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Citizen K  Mar 20, 2017 • 7:57:10pm

re: #97 Joe Bacon

So the RepubliKKKlan leadership just added a bunch of amendments to their Obamacare replacement

cnn.com

I shouldn’t be surprised that for the most part, all but maybe 1 of the changes make the bill even more conservative and cruel.

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calochortus  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:05:05pm

re: #97 Joe Bacon

So the RepubliKKKlan leadership just added a bunch of amendments to their Obamacare replacement

cnn.com

All well and good, but they are remarkably non-specific and aren’t going to make anyone happier with them. Making Medicaid recipients work-at what? Where? What about childcare? Etc. Etc.
Throwing a bunch of money at older people without specifying how it’s going to work and who will get it doesn’t seem like it will get anyone on board either.

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Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:06:18pm

re: #97 Joe Bacon

So the RepubliKKKlan leadership just added a bunch of amendments to their Obamacare replacement

cnn.com

This days after Paul “Zombie-eyed Granny Starver” Ryan insisted during his Powerpoint presentation that this was the bill to bring down Obamacare and there would be no changes to it. Either the party got behind the bill and pushed it through or they gave up on repeal.

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ObserverArt  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:06:41pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Squirrel almost needs to be hidden in privacy tags. Heh.

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freetoken  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:09:39pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:09:56pm
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Archangelus  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:11:50pm

This had me in stitches…

Another gem courtesy of JollyJack
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jaunte  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:15:51pm

Nunes: “I don’t know these people.”

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:19:39pm

A passing thought.

At the current time, the only person associated with the Donald Trump administration who isn’t openly corrupt or has engaged in advocating unconstitutional - sometimes bordering in fascist - policies has been the freaking former CEO of the World Wrestling Entertainment company, Linda McMahon.

When the least objectionable person in an organization is a wrestling promoter, there is little else that could be possibly said here.

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calochortus  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:19:53pm

I see Andrew Napolitano has been, umm, let go by Fox. Another Obama victim…

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jaunte  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:24:05pm
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Joe Bacon  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:26:09pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

o.m.g.

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If anyone had done that to me and I found out who did it, I would take a cricket bat and paddle them to the drum solo of In A Gadda Da Vida!

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stpaulbear  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:26:44pm

re: #109 jaunte

…or even the DNC sits on its hands.

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retired cynic  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:26:57pm

re: #110 Joe Bacon

If anyone had done that to me and I found out who did it, I would take a cricket bat and paddle them to the drum solo of In A Gadda Da Vida!

Never-ending retribution!

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:29:08pm

re: #5 Jenner7

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So dang brazen. What does Russia have over the Trump regime? What did they hack from the RNC?

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stpaulbear  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:31:07pm

re: #110 Joe Bacon

If anyone had done that to me and I found out who did it, I would take a cricket bat and paddle them to the drum solo of In A Gadda Da Vida!

I’m thinking that the handwriting is so distinctive that maybe they can find the culprit through Facebook exposure. Some relative, friend or acquaintance may recognize it. It’s horrid enough that someone may turn them in.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:31:29pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lying is second nature to Trump. It’s just who he is.

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mmmirele  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:36:24pm

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

“unwittingly”
*snort*

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I’m gobsmacker, that’s obviously not true. Just to get $10K for a non-profit film teaser last year, I filed 60 pages of documents, including budgets and c.v.s for our educators with the granting agency. I mean, seriously, we were turning the lint out of our pockets to let them know how broke we were. This is utter bullshit.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:36:43pm

re: #113 Patricia Kayden

So dang brazen. What does Russia have over the Trump regime? What did they hack from the RNC?

Patricia, something tells me that the Russians found out that more than one GOP officeholder has a weakness for young boys…

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:37:12pm

re: #46 EPR-radar

This will be the Republican party platform a few years from now.

It’s their platform now.

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Kragar  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:38:48pm
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Archangelus  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:40:04pm

re: #119 Kragar

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“Watch:”

“You can’t make me!” *runs to the hills*

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Joe Bacon  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:40:37pm

re: #108 calochortus

I see Andrew Napolitano has been, umm, let go by Fox. Another Obama victim…

Coming up on InfoWars tomorrow—Napolitano attacks liberal Fox News and Talky Tomi tattles on Glenn Beck’s membership in the Trilateral Commission!

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Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:40:55pm

re: #119 Kragar

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$10 says she was riding the “Bernie or Bust” bandwagon just 9 months ago.

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calochortus  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:42:41pm

re: #121 Joe Bacon

Coming up on InfoWars tomorrow—Napolitano attacks liberal Fox News and Talky Tomi tattles on Glenn Beck’s membership in the Trilateral Commission!

Yeah, the Freepers are outraged at the liberal slant at Fox already. They’re swearing off watching it, which IIRC, they’ve already done a few times.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:43:04pm

re: #119 Kragar

The end result of 30+years of the 24/7 Republican Bullshit Machine brainwashing the marks!

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calochortus  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:43:44pm

re: #124 Joe Bacon

The end result of 30+years of the 24/7 Republican Bullshit Machine brainwashing the marks!

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:48:58pm

re: #89 EPR-radar

It’s a strange blunder for Obama to have made. Comey was named FBI director by Obama in 2013. By then it must have been excruciatingly clear to Obama that there is no working with Republicans.

Republicans were in charge of both houses. His hands were tied; he needed to get someone who would meet their approval.

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Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:50:22pm

Somewhere in America, John of Orange is laughing his Oompa-Loompa ass off.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:55:31pm

ICYMI

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Citizen K  Mar 20, 2017 • 8:58:56pm

re: #119 Kragar

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Christ, I give up.

GOP is just going to do what they will no matter what because it seems impossible for them to lose support no matter what they do. And that means we’re fucked.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:04:48pm

re: #3 Kragar

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He was :-)

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:06:22pm

re: #130 Eventual Carrion

He was :-)

That’s the joke!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:06:56pm

It’s time for a wanker break:

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:09:55pm

re: #129 Citizen K

Christ, I give up.

GOP is just going to do what they will no matter what because it seems impossible for them to lose support no matter what they do. And that means we’re fucked.

We have to continue to make our voices heard. Just because many Trump voters are immune from reason, it doesn’t mean there are not a sufficient number of people who would be persuaded to vote otherwise. We don’t want to become another Occupy Wall Street — a few months of publicity, only to fade away. The Trump people want us to do that; but if Republican congressmen begin to fear that they may actually lose their seats, they may start listening to reason. We have to wrap Russia around each and every Republican.

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retired cynic  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:10:57pm

re: #133 Hecuba’s daughter

And remember! We are the majority. We just have to overcome voter suppression.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:12:39pm

re: #127 Targetpractice

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Somewhere in America, John of Orange is laughing his Oompa-Loompa ass off.

So, their plan is to offer a tax credit to the almost retired people to assist in paying their premiums that have gone up whatever huge %.

A tax credit that you use at the end of the year, that does nothing to help you pay out of pocket those exorbitant premiums.

Is this correct?

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Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:14:29pm

re: #135 Stanley Sea

So, their plan is to offer a tax credit to the almost retired people to assist in paying their premiums that have gone up whatever huge %.

A tax credit that you use at the end of the year, that does nothing to help you pay out of pocket those exorbitant premiums.

Is this correct?

Hell, not even sure that’s the plan. The House just basically threw in a line about adding $75B to the pot and telling the Senate to figure out how to use that money to make the elderly happy.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:16:33pm

re: #136 Targetpractice

Hell, not even sure that’s the plan. The House just basically threw in a line about adding $75B to the pot and telling the Senate to figure out how to use that money to make the elderly happy.

Lower the medicare age to 50!!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:20:36pm

re: #134 retired cynic

And remember! We are the majority. We just have to overcome voter suppression.

80,000 votes in 3 states made the difference. This is not an insurmountable obstacle. We need to be ruthless and terrify Republicans. My RW brother is in Peter Sessions district now and was complaining that the townhall meeting was taken over by Democrats. We need to do more of that and we need candidates in every district.

Remember: Rostenkowski of Chicago who was an institution in Congress only to lose to a no-name candidate in the 1994 wave election. Off-year elections are low turnout; anger enough voters and you can win races that are normally out of reach, and that can be enough to get power. The candidates don’t have to be good; they just have to be there and the party has to have a consistent message that makes people vote against your opponent.

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Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:21:41pm

But speaking of the $75B slush fund they’re now throwing at the Senate, how exactly is that being handled in light of the CBO score? If it’s annually, then they’re way outside the $33B -/+ that the AHCA was supposed to “save” annually and thus the bill can no longer pass under reconciliation because it will add to the deficit. And if it’s spread out over a length of time so as not to go over that $33B figure, then it’s a fuckin’ drop in the bucket.

Either way, the Senate Democrats should be raising hell right now, demanding the CBO score the bill in light of the changes so as to determine if it still comforms to the rules regarding reconciliation bills.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:23:12pm

re: #134 retired cynic

And remember! We are the majority. We just have to overcome voter suppression.

Most non-voters are self-suppressing.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:23:17pm

re: #137 Stanley Sea

Lower the medicare age to 50!!!

Go all the way. Open Medicare to EVERYONE regardless of age. Give the pimp CEO’s the whipping they’ve deserved for years!

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Ubiq  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:24:25pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:28:55pm

re: #142 Ubiq

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The mistake people seem to be making is assuming Spicer has any level of dignity at all.

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Interesting Times  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:29:39pm

re: #140 Decatur Deb

Most non-voters are self-suppressing.

Do you think that would change if Democrats actually did some of things I quoted here?

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JordanRules  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:29:48pm

re: #134 retired cynic

That fight is a good place for our energy and a democratic party value to boot!

Holder is on it and I bet Obama will be too.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:32:01pm

re: #133 Hecuba’s daughter

We have to continue to make our voices heard. Just because many Trump voters are immune from reason, it doesn’t mean there are not a sufficient number of people who would be persuaded to vote otherwise. We don’t want to become another Occupy Wall Street — a few months of publicity, only to fade away. The Trump people want us to do that; but if Republican congressmen begin to fear that they may actually lose their seats, they may start listening to reason. We have to wrap Russia around each and every Republican.

GOP - Grand Old Politburo.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:32:05pm

oh

great

now

i

am

SOAKING

wet

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retired cynic  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:34:00pm

re: #147 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

?

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:34:13pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

Marxism utterly fell apart in practice because it didn’t even get class right—you know, that awkwardness in the USSR and China where, oops, no proletariat but lots of peasants—and utterly shit the bed w/r/t stuff like colonized peoples.

Can we just admit that Marx had some good observations about a particular time and place, and not that his system is universally sound? That would be great, yeah.

Because this is getting stupid. Like, Austrian economics stupid.

(Note: man, I’m fucking sick of FB memes and posts that use Marxist lingo. That shit is neither cute nor tough-sounding. )

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:38:16pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:38:28pm

re: #144 Interesting Times

Do you think that would change if Democrats actually did some of things I quoted here?

I don’t know that they are that involved or educated on civil matters. The passionate minorities of both parties vote. The mushy middle doesn’t even believe they should. I had college students in FL refuse to register because “the system is rigged.”

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:38:44pm

Russia, where you can go to prison if you’re gay, an independent journalist, if you criticize Putin or the Orthodox Church. Sounds like paradise to the GOP.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:40:11pm

re: #148 retired cynic

?

rain done gone and snuck up on me

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:40:18pm

grownup people were very serious today yanno army guys and and spies and senators and whatnot but trump people were all like yay and finally a president that doesnt hate america

wot thuh fuck maan

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:41:46pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

The President cites Gateway Pundit.

I mean, I can’t even come up with a comparison that explains how the bar is already so far below “shitty Fox commentator.” Like, we’ve passed beyond Pink Slime and are well on to melamine-based fake milk.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:41:57pm

re: #140 Decatur Deb

Most non-voters are self-suppressing.

Except that Republican-run states have instituted additional onerous id requirements that can be difficult for minorities to acquire. The offices that provide the ids may not be available in easily accessible locations or open during convenient hours. These states also reduce early voting sites and hours; in practice, many lower income people cannot take time off work to vote and may rely on weekend voting which is no longer as available as in prior years.

The Supreme Court Shelby County vs Holder decision basically gutted the Voting Rights Act, allowing states free rein to restrict voting. It doesn’t take many votes to turn the results of an election; so far Republicans are doing their best to make it harder for many of our voters to exercise their rights

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:43:59pm

basically thrumph’s position on obama taps has evolved to you havent proved that there were none in other words the old proving a negative

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:45:21pm

hrughmph hrughmph tweet tweet

hrughmph hrughmph tweet tweet

gobble gobble gobble

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Decatur Deb  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:47:24pm

re: #156 Hecuba’s daughter

Except that Republican-run states have instituted additional onerous id requirements that can be difficult for minorities to acquire. The offices that provide the ids may not be available in easily accessible locations or open during convenient hours. These states also reduce early voting sites and hours; in practice, many lower income people cannot take time off work to vote and may rely on weekend voting which is no longer as available as in prior years.

The Supreme Court Shelby County vs Holder decision basically gutted the Voting Rights Act, allowing states free rein to restrict voting. It doesn’t take many votes to turn the results of an election; so far Republicans are doing their best to make it harder for many of our voters to exercise their rights

We are fighting that in Alabama, particularly the restoration of voting rights after bogus felony loss. Even then, the barrier is ignorance of their rights rather than real obstacles. Until people get angry they won’t get involved.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:47:27pm

re: #19 Decatur Deb

Only seen bits and pieces, but it sounds like the Feds are looking at the RW sites as unwitting victims of sophisticated bot work, for the most part. Freepers are still wetting themselves over the unfair ‘targeting’.

I believe you can leave the ‘victims’ out of that sentence.

Wingnuts are simply unwitting, and if they had wits would have cheerfully helped Putin and Co. take the country down

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:49:35pm

re: #5 Jenner7

Giving the green light to invade the Baltic States, Ukraine, Poland, Czech Republic, Eastern Europe, etc.

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Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:54:24pm

re: #144 Interesting Times

Do you think that would change if Democrats actually did some of things I quoted here?

I think you pretty clearly answered your own question. Warren didn’t just drop the reading when McConnell told her to stop, she kept reading until he used an arcane Senate rule to silence her. It’s how “and yet she persisted” became buzzwords among liberals for about a week. Now, weeks later, here she is being criticized for not doing more. Worse, she’s being criticized as not being an effective leader for telling people to get out there and call their representatives, which is supposed to be how we as voters are supposed to have out grievances heard.

You ever consider that the DNC doesn’t stick its neck out more because it gets nothing for the effort but endless criticism about how it’s “not enough”?

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 20, 2017 • 9:56:03pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

That’s about right.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:01:40pm

Conservatives voicing their support of Russian interference with the American elections. And they have the gall to call liberals “traitors.”
rawstory.com

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Decatur Deb  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:04:22pm

re: #156 Hecuba’s daughter

“An estimated 15 percent of African Americans are denied the right to vote in Alabama because they have been convicted of a crime, including nonviolent crimes such drug-related charges, according to reports by The New York Times and The Washington Post.”

End-game of the school-to-prison pipeline. Wording of the Alabama law shows that most of the 15% are actually not barred from voting, but don’t know it.

splcenter.org

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freetoken  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:07:48pm

Deep bigotry.

This is the real explanation.

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fern01  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:17:47pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, Rex has to check on his big oil deal to make sure it’s still a go…

And he’s so tired with all this work. The trump line up of CEO’s have never had any idea as to the work involved in being part of the government. So much for the guys who earn the big bucks. trump needs his free weekends and Tillerson needs a rest. Sec Clinton & Sec Kerry could well explain to them that the Secretary of State does not have time to be “tired”.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:18:31pm

re: #162 Targetpractice

I think you pretty clearly answered your own question. Warren didn’t just drop the reading when McConnell told her to stop, she kept reading until he used an arcane Senate rule to silence her. It’s how “and yet she persisted” became buzzwords among liberals for about a week. Now, weeks later, here she is being criticized for not doing more. Worse, she’s being criticized as not being an effective leader for telling people to get out there and call their representatives, which is supposed to be how we as voters are supposed to have out grievances heard.

You ever consider that the DNC doesn’t stick its neck out more because it gets nothing for the effort but endless criticism about how it’s “not enough”?

roger that

progressives are almost as hard on democrats as wingnuts are

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fern01  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:21:09pm

re: #7 PhillyPretzel

My theory is as follows: Comey was supposed to get something from Trump and did not. Now he (Comey) is going all out on Trump.

trump attacked the security agencies - even before he took office. Didn’t want any security briefings - not interested in any way. Suddenly the FBI and CIA become the best of friends and the Russia investigated gets ramped up.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:27:05pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:27:29pm

re: #165 Decatur Deb

“An estimated 15 percent of African Americans are denied the right to vote in Alabama because they have been convicted of a crime, including nonviolent crimes such drug-related charges, according to reports by The New York Times and The Washington Post.”

End-game of the school-to-prison pipeline. Wording of the Alabama law shows that most of the 15% are actually not barred from voting, but don’t know it.

splcenter.org

The South has used this approach for years to disenfranchise minorities. If Democrats ever get control again, they should pass legislation that would require automatic restoration of voting rights for federal elections once individuals have served their sentence.

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austin_blue  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:31:49pm

re: #169 fern01

trump attacked the security agencies - even before he took office. Didn’t want any security briefings - not interested in any way. Suddenly the FBI and CIA become the best of friends and the Russia investigated gets ramped up.

Revenge of the Spooks.

(Interesting Side Note: The BBC show entitled “Spooks”, which ran for 10 years, was presented in the US as MI-5 because it was thought that the British title would be interpreted in the States as a slur against black people.)

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freetoken  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:36:23pm

One of the problems with which we’re faced is how slow the masses can be when the likes of Trump move quickly.

Take Facebook. Their “news” headlines tend to be hours, sometimes days, behind the actual events. That’s because they pick their headlines based on views, not time. Just like your Facebook timeline which gets littered with what other people click upon, and not timeliness.

News junkies we here are… yet I propose it is not unreasonable to expect an American to know what their government’s top story is on the same day it happens.

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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:47:55pm
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fern01  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:49:19pm

re: #172 austin_blue

Revenge of the Spooks.

(Interesting Side Note: The BBC show entitled “Spooks”, which ran for 10 years, was presented in the US as MI-5 because it was thought that the British title would be interpreted in the States as a slur against black people.)

US doesn’t understand english as spoken by the English - I watched most of the “Spooks” although as with most TV shows I found the first series way better than the rest.

And yes - there are some folks out there not scared of “trump revenge” which may be the saving grace for the USA. After years of negative thoughts on the FBI, CIA rather confusing to my brain that they will be the saviors.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:53:14pm
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austin_blue  Mar 20, 2017 • 10:58:30pm

re: #173 freetoken

One of the problems with which we’re faced is how slow the masses can be when the likes of Trump move quickly.

Take Facebook. Their “news” headlines tend to be hours, sometimes days, behind the actual events. That’s because they pick their headlines based on views, not time. Just like your Facebook timeline which gets littered with what other people click upon, and not timeliness.

News junkies we here are… yet I propose it is not unreasonable to expect an American to know what their government’s top story is on the same day it happens.

Agreed. Drumpf is a water strider, a bug that runs on the top of the water because it is so light that it doesn’t break the surface tension. By the time you realize he has shit in your mouth, he’s way downstream.

I’ve been reading a lot historical fiction lately, just as a diversion from the actual reality of the horror that our Democracy has become. This includes numerous Phillipa Gregory books on the Tudors. They are well researched books and it is easy to draw a parallel between Henry VIII and Drumpf. Both were little spoiled second sons incapable of being wrong. Golden boys who became serial adulterers, and abused their power to destroy other peoples’ lives.

Interesting, ultimately inane grist for discussion, but still, interesting.

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austin_blue  Mar 20, 2017 • 11:01:45pm

re: #176 goddamnedfrank

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Drip, drip, drip.

And, ooh, I just finished the NYT article. He is so fucked, for tax evasion if nothing else.

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austin_blue  Mar 20, 2017 • 11:09:04pm

Shit, 1:08 Anti-Matter.

Night all. Sweet scaly dreams!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 20, 2017 • 11:47:19pm

“Paranoia/Suspiciousness. Individuals with dementia may become paranoid as a result of false beliefs, or delusions, which are a symptom of the disease. Examples of paranoia are accusations that someone is poisoning their food, wiretapping trump tower, or stealing their money, or statements such as, “My spouse is an imposter.”

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2017 • 12:39:30am
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Targetpractice  Mar 21, 2017 • 12:41:33am

re: #181 JordanRules

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No offense, but polls like this aren’t much comfort when this is the demographic that is most likely to sit out an election because “My vote won’t make a difference” or “both parties are the same!”

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Moebym  Mar 21, 2017 • 12:42:36am

re: #181 JordanRules

This millennial POC certainly does.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2017 • 12:50:39am

re: #182 Targetpractice

Well lord knows I find so much comforting stuff posted here. ;)

I know the uphill battle we have here though and it sucks.

For me a big takeaway is race and I find no comfort in knowing that folks still don’t want to deal with it.

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freetoken  Mar 21, 2017 • 12:56:17am

re: #177 austin_blue

Trump uses a basic technique in disinformation - noise.

I suspect this human capability goes way back in evolution, as many species do it. By confusing a possible predator with mixed signals, confusing the predator, a prey can escape.

So Trump just runs off at the mouth continuously. It doesn’t matter that he contradicts himself or baldly lies. The sheer volume of random signals coming from him is enough for the simple minded to be confused. It takes a discipline to continue to work through all the b.s. and misinformation.

Still, eventually even the die-hard Trumpers will grow weary. It’s just too emotionally taxing to keep up with a narcissist whose needs can never truly be met.

Yet in the meantime we pay the price with frayed governance.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 21, 2017 • 12:57:39am

re: #182 Targetpractice

No offense, but polls like this aren’t much comfort when this is the demographic that is most likely to sit out an election because “My vote won’t make a difference” or “both parties are the same!”

From 2014

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 1:01:22am

re: #161 DodgerFan1988

Giving the green light to invade the Baltic States, Ukraine, Poland, Czech Republic, Eastern Europe, etc.

I disagree with that assertion. Comparing Putin and Russia to the USSR is rather misleading.

Not that Putin is a peace-loving democrat, but I think that his interests lie in expanding his influence within the borders of the former USSR, not in Eastern Europe.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 1:54:03am

re: #161 DodgerFan1988

Giving the green light to invade the Baltic States, Ukraine, Poland, Czech Republic, Eastern Europe, etc.

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I disagree with that assertion. Comparing Putin and Russia to the USSR is rather misleading.

Not that Putin is a peace-loving democrat, but I think that his interests lie in expanding his influence within the borders of the former USSR, not in Eastern Europe.

Ukraine and the Baltic States were part of the former USSR (along with Georgia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, &c). Poland, the Czech Republic, and the rest of Eastern Europe (minus Yugoslavia and Albania) were part of the Warsaw Pact, in other words part of the USSR in all but name.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2017 • 2:05:48am

re: #126 Hecuba’s daughter

Republicans were in charge of both houses. His hands were tied; he needed to get someone who would meet their approval.

Nope. If the Republicans didn’t want to confirm Obama’s nominee, the FBI could be run by an acting director for as long at it takes.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 2:07:53am

re: #189 EPR-radar

Nope. If the Republicans didn’t want to confirm Obama’s nominee, the FBI could be run by an acting director for as long at it takes.

It’s that one-way bipartisanship thing. President Obama continued throughout his presidency to generally believe in bipartisan solutions to political problems, the GOP ditched that idea under President Nixon.

Both parties being obstructionist won’t help though - I’m not sure how to get out of this pickle other than run Democrats everywhere.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2017 • 2:11:13am

Ha!

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 2:16:33am

Nebraska Among States Hardest Hit by GOP Health Care Bill (Goes to the Scottsbluff NE Star-Herald)

Thanks, Obama.

LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — A Republican plan to replace the Affordable Care Act would raise health insurance costs in Nebraska faster than in most other states, according to a new report, and advocates say rural areas would be hardest-hit.

The analysis was released last week as some members of Nebraska’s congressional delegation faced loud public opposition to the GOP plan at town hall meetings.

Critics of the plan say Nebraska would see larger-than-average increases because it has a disproportionate share of older and low-income residents, many of whom received tax credits through the federal health insurance marketplace. The new congressional plan reduces the tax credits that many receive to offset their expense and eliminates cost-sharing reductions for low-income individuals.

(further analysis at the Star-Herald on the effect of the bill in Nebraska)

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2017 • 2:22:57am
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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 2:30:00am

People quoted in the Star-Herald article above surprised that the Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party want to eat their faces too… .

Got an interesting call today from a fellow in Grand Island. He ran across an article I wrote at Daily Kos on how we fought off the mass Post Office closure plan to save our Post Office.

He ran across that article because the Post Office is proposing closing the office there and moving it to the postal sorting centre at the edge of the city. That would be a hardship amongst many people in Grand Island.

His situation is not the same as ours (the Post Office notes that Union Pacific owns the building and it is being shaken apart by UP trains) - so I’m not sure whether everything we did here would help him. I did connect him with the resources we used to fight off the post office closure here in our village. (Curious as to how he got my telephone number.)

How We Saved Our Rural Post Office (goes to Daily Kos)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 2:53:29am

re: #188 Anymouse

Ukraine and the Baltic States were part of the former USSR (along with Georgia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, &c). Poland, the Czech Republic, and the rest of Eastern Europe (minus Yugoslavia and Albania) were part of the Warsaw Pact, in other words part of the USSR in all but name.

I still think it misleading to see Putin as re-launching the Cold War. His expansionist goals, both physical and political, are directed towards whose areas left with Russian minority populations after the dissolution of the USSR: Russia’s equivalent of the Sudetenland, so to speak.

I do not think that he has any interest or advantage in the rest of Eastern Europe other than to expand his political & economic influence there.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:33:18am

Sober thread regarding Comey/Rogers hearing yesterday, other “newish” revelations and what we already know.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:37:00am

re: #136 Targetpractice

Hell, not even sure that’s the plan. The House just basically threw in a line about adding $75B to the pot and telling the Senate to figure out how to use that money to make the elderly happy.

They made up some bullshit to get the AARP off their ass.

I used to think AARP was some kind of scam, but I might send them some money.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:41:54am

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

They made up some bullshit to get the AARP off their ass.

I used to think AARP was some kind of scam, but I might send them some money.

They think I’m old or something. (:: They do things like promote insurance plans and such, but they are also a fairly powerful lobby group.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:45:49am

re: #196 JordanRules

Sober thread regarding Comey/Rogers hearing yesterday, other “newish” revelations and what we already know.

Of course it is perfectly normal for government to influence foreign elections, but that is a red herring: the ongoing investigations concern a political campaign in America colluding with a foreign government. That is not “normal”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:47:38am

They are tweaking the GOPDontCare bill to make it even more of a shit show:

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:49:19am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I didn’t see him posit anything being normal and I certainly don’t think any of this is normal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:53:31am

re: #201 JordanRules

I didn’t see him posit anything being normal and I certainly don’t think any of this is normal.

Just pointing out one of the RW talking points; heck, even DT has used something similar.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:56:23am

Fox is going to be on Brady’s jerseys all day.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 4:59:34am

Tim Tebow sucks at baseball.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:01:51am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yep and they will conclude that this investigation is just part of Obama’s wiretapping, deep state master plan and they just won’t admit it. Sigh.

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:02:40am

Breslin had Trump’s number long ago - a young builder named Junior with a big ego.

“Trump, in the crinkling of an eye, senses better than anyone the insecurity of people, that nobody knows whether anything is good or bad until they are told, and he is quite willing to tell them immediately,” Breslin wrote in a 1988 column about Trump’s purchase of an airline, which turned out to be one of his biggest business failures.

Breslin saw Trump as a Queens guy running “crap games” while a hungry public admired him for “the highest buildings, the most fantastic dealings” and even “personal presidential abilities.”

In later columns, Breslin remained outraged by one Trump-ism more than any other: His manipulation of the media.

After Trump took out a full-page newspaper ad in 1989 calling for the executions of the (ultimately innocent) “Central Park Five” suspects, Breslin advised readers, “beware always of the loudmouth taking advantage of the situation and appealing to a crowd’s meanest nature.”

He said Trump touted tough talk that could only come “from someone who walks around with bodyguards.”

Pete Hamill had him sussed, too.

Watching Trump in the White House left Breslin “a bit sour with what’s going on in our country.”

“Mainly because (Trump was) the kind of guy that in my neighborhood in Brooklyn and (Breslin’s) in Queens we despised,” Hamill said.

“The bullshit tough guy. The guy is all mouth and couldn’t fight his way out of an empty lot.”

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:03:55am

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

So 2 for 2 then. LOL He should try a non-sport.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:08:33am

re: #205 JordanRules

Yep and they will conclude that this investigation is just part of Obama’s wiretapping, deep state master plan and they just won’t admit it. Sigh.

The fact that there is no evidence to support Trump’s preposterous claims will be seen as proof that Obama’s Deep State minions successfully destroyed all material evidence after killing off all living witnesses and having their bodies cremated in the oven of a pedophile pizza parlor and then dumped in the Flint, Michigan water supply…

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:10:35am

LOL
Trump is undermining the GOP efforts to protect him.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:13:53am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Jus waiting on Bowling Green and I’ll have BINGO!!

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:15:54am

re: #209 The Vicious Babushka

“The tweets make it much more difficult for us as we try to build a case against these leakers,” Peter King said

King is traitorous scum. I’d spit on him if I got within five feet of him.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:17:00am

re: #211 makeitstop

King is traitorous scum. I’d spit on him if I got within five feet of him.

“Build a case against the leakers”

LOL so the house is burning down but they want to know who called the fire department.

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:18:45am

re: #212 The Vicious Babushka

“Build a case against the leakers”

LOL so the house is burning down but they want to know who called the fire department.

Much more of this and I’ll start rooting for bringing back the gallows.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:21:41am

re: #213 makeitstop

Much more of this and I’ll start rooting for bringing back the gallows.

Police Dog Hogan - Tyburn Jig

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:26:37am

Oh looky here, “Crisis Pregnancy Center” is stealing gubmint money & not providing any actual prenatal care.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:32:58am
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fern01  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:34:38am

re: #192 Anymouse

Nebraska Among States Hardest Hit by GOP Health Care Bill (Goes to the Scottsbluff NE Star-Herald)

Thanks, Obama.

(further analysis at the Star-Herald on the effect of the bill in Nebraska)

Sen Sasse was on MJ (why do I beat myself up by watching). Everything he said in relation to Trump/Russia was good - BUT - he had to chime in to say the Senate should vote 100% for Gorsuch on the SCOTUS.

So we have a man who is UNFIT to be President nominating someone for a lifetime appointment to SCOTUS and the Senate should accept this?

Proves that all GOP members of congress will support the orange one - for whatever reason suits their purpose.

As for healthcare - those that vote together - die together. This is the result of “voting against your own best interest”.

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jeffreyw  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:46:41am

Imgur
Good morning!

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 5:51:51am

I know a lot of Israeli travelers who won’t be using Turkish Airlines any more.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:01:39am

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

So, what’s going to prevent a would-be laptop bomber from taking a short hop to an unbanned airport, and then flying to the USA? This ban is another example of closing the barn door after the horses have run away. One guy — one guy — tried to bomb an airplane with a bomb concealed in a laptop, and all he got for his troubles was the Oddjob exit (Goldfinger movie reference there). So, now we target specific departure airports, because Muslims, and make the USA even less desirable as a destination.

smdh

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:02:04am

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

This is security theater. And ultimately it hurts US tourism because people simply wont travel to/from those parts unless they absolutely have to. Business will suffer too, including energy business work.

Trump doesn’t care.

And if there was an actual threat relating to electronic devices originating in one of those countries, there’s no reason to trust Trump on the rationale given all his other lies about security rationales. However, even if there’s an actual threat, the electronic device ban could be circumvented by terrorists simply by changing itineraries so that they fly through Europe or Asia instead.

This instead looks like a pain point all to justify action of some sort, rather than actual improvement of security.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:05:34am

re: #221 lawhawk

This is security theater. And ultimately it hurts US tourism because people simply wont travel to/from those parts unless they absolutely have to. Business will suffer too, including energy business work.

Trump doesn’t care.

And if there was an actual threat relating to electronic devices originating in one of those countries, there’s no reason to trust Trump on the rationale given all his other lies about security rationales. However, even if there’s an actual threat, the electronic device ban could be circumvented by terrorists simply by changing itineraries so that they fly through Europe or Asia instead.

This instead looks like a pain point all to justify action of some sort, rather than actual improvement of security.

Trump seems to be doing everything he can to harm the travel industry, which employs far more people than coal mining. What kind of kickbacks is he getting from Big Coal?

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Citizen K  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:09:11am

re: #222 The Vicious Babushka

Trump seems to be doing everything he can to harm the travel industry, which employs far more people than coal mining. What kind of kickbacks is he getting from Big Coal?

Extra promises of cruelty for their employees in exchange for making them virtually unaccountable for any of the results of said cruelty, I presume.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:11:22am

re: #223 Citizen K

Extra promises of cruelty for their employees in exchange for making them virtually unaccountable for any of the results of said cruelty, I presume.

The whole point of industrial deregulation is ostensibly to create jobs by reducing costs, but the real reason is to relieve them of any responsibility or accountability for anything they do to their employees or the environment.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:16:28am

Louise Mensch has another interesting revelation.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:20:28am

re: #221 lawhawk

This is security theater. And ultimately it hurts US tourism because people simply wont travel to/from those parts unless they absolutely have to. Business will suffer too, including energy business work.

Trump doesn’t care. (snip)

en.wikipedia.org (Printer cartridge bomb plot)

Flights that originated in Yemen but stopped at other airports on the way to the USA. Printers cartridges are not on his list of banned electronic cargo.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:20:39am

re: #222 The Vicious Babushka

Beats the heck out of me. Nothing he’s proposing actually will bring about a net increase in jobs.

His travel bans and new restrictions on electronics on flights will further curb travel, which is one of the largest industries in the US. A downturn there would have a ripple effect and slow the economy. We’re not just talking about trips to Disney or NYC or LA, but with energy companies doing business in the Middle East, you’d get a slowdown in places like Texas, Wyoming, Oklahoma, North Dakota, and Alaska. That’ll hurt the local economy.

And attempting to give coal any kind of subsidies will not translate to more jobs - only more profits for the coal companies. Natgas is still cheaper and easier to transport than coal, and energy companies have realized this as they can build new natgas fired plants in less time with less worry about siting than coal plants, which need more space to store the coal, to say nothing of the emissions issues associated with coal.

If Trump tries to tax natgas to give coal a greater advantage, you’d end up killing jobs in an even bigger industry - oil/gas since fracking is one of the offshoots that has helped prop up local economies across the country in places like parts of Pennsylvania, Oklahoma, Texas, North Dakota, and Wyoming. Any hit on the price of natural gas will get passed on to consumers too - spiking inflation as well.

So no, nothing about Trump’s economic policies makes sense, and his coal fascination makes even less sense.

Those coal miner supporters are going to be in for a rude awakening when they not only don’t have jobs, but watch water quality decline because the mines are dumping more waste into their water supplies and air quality gets worse thanks to Trump deciding we have enough environment to go around.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:22:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:23:22am

re: #228 lawhawk

US infant mortality rates down 15%

Thank you President Trump! This is because babies are so excited to be born into an America that has been made greater and safer again!!!

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:24:15am

re: #143 Targetpractice

The mistake people seem to be making is assuming Spicer has any level of dignity at all.

Nobody who works closely with Trump for more than one week does.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:24:16am

re: #227 lawhawk

So no, nothing about Trump’s economic policies makes sense, and his coal fascination makes even less sense.

I think his coal fixation comes from the adulation he receives from the stupid rubes in Coal Country. He will promise them galaxies of strip mining and give them jack shit & uninsured black lung.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:25:45am

re: #227 lawhawk

It’s not just him.

Steve King (IA-4) and his bigoted comments recently are causing a deep slump in the Iowa tourist industry. (You might not know it, but Iowa gets about $8 billion a year in tourism).

One of the big issues is a bicycle race that goes across the state and has been run (ridden?) for many years. It brings in a huge amount of money: Iowa tourist businesses are reporting sweeping cancellations based on King’s remarks.

In response, the state tourist board issued an apology of sorts that has done nothing to staunch the bleeding in this year’s tourism income: King does not represent the opinions of all Iowans. (Apparently he does represent the opinions of the majority of voters in IA-4 however).

King’s remarks are doing to Iowa’s tourism the kind of damage that HB-2 did to North Carolina. King of course could give a flip about Iowa’s tourist industry, as he does not rely on it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:28:00am

re: #231 The Vicious Babushka

I think his coal fixation comes from the adulation he receives from the stupid rubes in Coal Country. He will promise them galaxies of strip mining and give them jack shit & uninsured black lung.

It is part of the bigger promise he sold Middle America: well paid jobs for poorly educated voters.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:29:19am

I left out my source for the issues in Iowa’s tourist industry vs. Rep. King:
People Are Cancelling Their Iowa Vacations Because of Steve King’s Words (goes to USA Today)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:30:11am

re: #234 Anymouse

I left out my source for the issues in Iowa’s tourist industry vs. Rep. King:
People ARe Cancelling Their Iowa Vacations Because of Steve King’s Words (goes to USA Today)

hateful, intolerant liberals…

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:30:32am

re: #181 JordanRules

Too bad they couldn’t be bothered to vote.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:30:37am

re: #233 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is part of the bigger promise load of utter horse shit he sold Middle America: well paid jobs for poorly educated voters.

ftfy

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:31:11am

re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

hateful, intolerant liberals…

… not tolerating Rep. King’s intolerance …

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:35:51am

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

They made up some bullshit to get the AARP off their ass.

I used to think AARP was some kind of scam, but I might send them some money.

I’ve been thinking the same thing, but they are kind of a scam. I don’t know how much political work they do, but they sure like to try and sell you things like insurance, usually at much higher prices than those available elsewhere.

Still it might be worth giving them some money and take one for the team.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:39:02am

Oldie but a goodie:

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:40:17am

WIRE TAPPS!!!!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:41:41am

re: #242 The Vicious Babushka

WIRE TAPPS!!!!!!

For 2 years ending in 2013, FBI had court-approved warrant to eavesdrop on Russian mafia in Trump Tower unit.

Well, there is the talking point: There WERE wiretaps in Trump Towers, so your arguments are invalid.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:44:49am

re: #234 Anymouse

I left out my source for the issues in Iowa’s tourist industry vs. Rep. King:
People ARe Cancelling Their Iowa Vacations Because of Steve King’s Words (goes to USA Today)

I admit never being there, but what on earth would cause people to choose to go to Iowa for a vacation?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:47:17am

re: #244 Skip Intro

I admit never being there, but what on earth would cause people to choose to go to Iowa for a vacation?

THE BUTTER COW

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wheat-dogg  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:47:23am

re: #244 Skip Intro

I admit never being there, but what on earth would cause people to choose to go to Iowa for a vacation?

The Buttercow.

Oh, and maybe RAGBRAI.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:48:00am

re: #244 Skip Intro

I admit never being there, but what on earth would cause people to choose to go to Iowa for a vacation?

Mississippi river, casinos, beautiful rolling countryside, I guess.

My dad was born there, probably got lots of distant relations all over that neck of the woods.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:48:04am

re: #225 wheat-dogg

Louise Mensch has another interesting revelation.

That account is way too articulate to be Chuck.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:48:11am
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wheat-dogg  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:48:13am

re: #246 wheat-dogg

True story: My daughter lives in Iowa. The Buttercow is a real thing. I haz seen it.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:48:45am

re: #245 The Vicious Babushka

6 doggone seconds.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:48:56am

The Trump fascination with nukes remains one of the most troubling aspects of his persona. Recall during the campaign that he repeatedly questioned why the US hasn’t used nukes, and whether we should use nukes against IS.

Trump’s calling for a reevaluation of whether a commitment for global disarmament makes sense.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:49:58am

re: #248 Belafon

That account is way too articulate to be Chuck.

That was my thought, too. Chuck’s tweeting was closer to Trump’s than RoguePOTUSStaff

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Joe Bacon  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:50:16am

re: #239 Skip Intro

I’ve been thinking the same thing, but they are kind of a scam. I don’t know how much political work they do, but they sure like to try and sell you things like insurance, usually at much higher prices than those available elsewhere.

Still it might be worth giving them some money and take one for the team.

That’s because AARP is nothing more than a glorified insurance company. Remember how Dumbya tossed a bunch of sweeteners to them in the Pill Bill?

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:52:36am

re: #142 Ubiq

What dignity? Never heard of him before this stint as SpokesLiar.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:57:35am

Sean Hannity: A president under FBI investigation would present “a major Constitutional crisis”

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:58:26am

re: #139 Targetpractice

But speaking of the $75B slush fund they’re now throwing at the Senate, how exactly is that being handled in light of the CBO score? If it’s annually, then they’re way outside the $33B -/+ that the AHCA was supposed to “save” annually and thus the bill can no longer pass under reconciliation because it will add to the deficit. And if it’s spread out over a length of time so as not to go over that $33B figure, then it’s a fuckin’ drop in the bucket.

Either way, the Senate Democrats should be raising hell right now, demanding the CBO score the bill in light of the changes so as to determine if it still comforms to the rules regarding reconciliation bills.

Any attempt to adjust the AHCA/#Trumpcare/#GOPDontCare to give 50-64 year olds more tax credits to address the concern that they’d be hardest hit by the new formula will absolutely cost more and wipe out the supposed savings from original AHCA plan that gutted the ACA subsidies.

The revised AHCA plan also brings back the complexity that the GOP complained the Obamacare subsidies had due to taking into account income, age, location, and other factors.

In other words, any of the so-called savings or improvements are wiped out and the ACA remains the better plan that covers more people for more stuff.

What’s troubling is that the GOP also wants to accelerate the repeal to 2017, which not only would increase the chances that millions lose coverage with no alternatives available but that the GOP would take a hit in the midterms.

It’s a lose-lose proposition to them, and I’ll take that. These people aren’t good at math, and their only saving grace is that their supporters are even worse at math than they are.

The GOP supporters keep thinking that tax cuts for the rich will help them, and that gutting Obamacare will help them, or that tax credits and HSAs will take the place of comprehensive health insurance.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 6:59:43am

Oh, and day 2 of the Gorsuch hearings is underway for the #MerrickGarland stolen seat.

That’s taken a back seat to the fireworks over the Russia-Trump hearings.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:01:42am

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Mississippi river, casinos, beautiful rolling countryside, I guess.

My dad was born there, probably got lots of distant relations all over that neck of the woods.

There is a town called Carter Lake on the west side of the Missouri River, entirely surrounded by Omaha. It was cut off from the rest of Iowa when the river changed course.

When I go to Omaha (far enough I have to stay overnight), I stay at a motel in Carter Lake. (Cheaper than staying in Omaha.) Carter Lake is in Steve King’s district. It’s also right next to Eppley Airfield (Omaha’s airport), so a lot of travellers stay in Carter Lake.

I won’t be spending any more money on Carter Lake businesses (hence Iowa loses my business to Omaha). My tourist bux aren’t a big deal, but enough people do that and Carter Lake really suffers.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:03:20am
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Belafon  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:05:07am

re: #256 The Vicious Babushka

Sean Hannity: A president under FBI investigation would present “a major Constitutional crisis”

Hannity’s trying to make the argument that we shouldn’t be investigation Trump because it would be a constitutional crisis, not that having a president that has done things that require an investigation would be a constitutional crisis.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:05:31am

re: #244 Skip Intro

I admit never being there, but what on earth would cause people to choose to go to Iowa for a vacation?

Some really great disc golfing around Des Moines.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:05:34am

re: #258 lawhawk

Oh, and day 2 of the Gorsuch hearings is underway for the #MerrickGarland stolen seat.

That’s taken a back seat to the fireworks over the Russia-Trump hearings.

I see Grassly’s(sic?) being a typical partisan prick.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:08:40am

re: #260 FormerDirtDart

AFAIK, you don’t recover from polonium poisoning, unless death is considered recovery. It’s a radioactive heavy metal.
en.wikipedia.org Acute effects

en.wikipedia.org —Chelation treatment so far only tested with rats.

Then again, Stone is a rat.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:08:55am

re: #244 Skip Intro

I admit never being there, but what on earth would cause people to choose to go to Iowa for a vacation?

I’ve been up there because my son is going to college in Indianola. If you like walking, they have trails that connect towns around Des Moines. You could walk in a loop for days. Des Moines is a pretty nice town.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:12:26am

re: #262 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Some really great disc golfing around Des Moines.

Stuff to do in Iowa (Uncle Bonsai, Iowa Apology Song from the album “Apology,” Yellow Tail Records)

Iowa Apology Song

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wheat-dogg  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:12:56am

re: #265 Belafon

I’ve been up there because my son is going to college in Indianola. If you like walking, they have trails that connect towns around Des Moines. You could walk in a loop for days. Des Moines is a pretty nice town.

Des Moines is home to an incredible burger joint called Zombie Burger.
zombieburgershakelab.com

I recommend.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:13:40am

re: #252 lawhawk

If we get through two years without Trump nuking something we’ll be lucky.

I can see him turning it into a tease.

“Help me decide what county or state to nuke! The winner will received a reduced rate two night vacation package at my fabulous Mar-a-Lagos resort. I’ll be announcing my choice and the winner’s name on Sean Hannity’s show on ….”

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wheat-dogg  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:16:07am

Now I have a craving for a juicy Angus hamburger.

Phooey.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:16:24am

As a species, human really suck

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CongoJack  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:16:57am

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

Tim Tebow sucks at baseball.

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At least his swing is faster than is throwing motion. Whoever taught him how to throw as a child should not be allowed to coach. Watching him here in CO during his stint as the luckiest QB on the planet was interesting - but only because I am a Chiefs fan.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:18:55am

Re: Ivanka’s new job w/YellowDad.

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I cannot.  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:19:07am

re: #264 wheat-dogg

Yeah, I read that it was 250,000 times more poisonous than cyanide (not sure as to source). If someone poisoned you with that, they cared enough to send the very best.

He also said that he’s recovering due to some of Alex Jones’ InfoWars brand supplements…where’s the wanking motion .gif when I need it?

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:19:30am

re: #269 wheat-dogg

Now I have a craving for a juicy Angus hamburger.

Phooey.

We have a few of those around here … and millions more that are still alive.

It’s calving season here; my wife calls calves “cannibalistic mini-cattle” because they always seem to be eating cows from underneath. /s

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:20:09am

re: #267 wheat-dogg

Des Moines is home to an incredible burger joint called Zombie Burger.
zombieburgershakelab.com

I recommend.

Been there. And they have a branch in the mall in West Des Moines now.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:21:00am

re: #273 I cannot.

Yeah, I read that it was 250,000 times more poisonous than cyanide (not sure as to source). If someone poisoned you with that, they cared enough to send the very best.

He also said that he’s recovering due to some of Alex Jones’ InfoWars brand supplements…where’s the wanking motion .gif when I need it?

How about this gif?

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:22:54am

re: #272 Dave In Austin

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wheat-dogg  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:28:26am

re: #273 I cannot.

Yeah, I read that it was 250,000 times more poisonous than cyanide (not sure as to source). If someone poisoned you with that, they cared enough to send the very best.

He also said that he’s recovering due to some of Alex Jones’ InfoWars brand supplements…where’s the wanking motion .gif when I need it?

I think Wikipedia mentions that figure.

Yeah, Stone is full of shit. He’d be dead.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:32:31am

An interesting diary over at Daily Kos: Former Representative David Jolly was interviewed on CNN, and he remarked that there was a question whether Donald Trump was “intellectually qualified” to be President.

Rick Santorum was also on the show, and remarked that “this is what the Left does. They always take a situation and take it one step too far.”

Mr. Jolly had to remind Mr. Santorum that he is a Republican. (with text and video)
dailykos.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:32:52am

re: #273 I cannot.

Yeah, I read that it was 250,000 times more poisonous than cyanide (not sure as to source). If someone poisoned you with that, they cared enough to send the very best.

He also said that he’s recovering due to some of Alex Jones’ InfoWars brand supplements…where’s the wanking motion .gif when I need it?

My buddy used to work with heavy metals, and explained that the atoms are so large that they simply block the pores of your cells and shut them down.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:33:25am

re: #278 wheat-dogg

I think Wikipedia mentions that figure.

Yeah, Stone is full of shit. He’d be dead.

He got turned into a newt, but then he got better.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:35:00am

re: #281 The Vicious Babushka

He got turned into a newt, but then he got better.

I’d quibble over the “better” part.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:35:36am

re: #281 The Vicious Babushka

He got turned into a newt, but then he got better.

She makes me want to be a better newt…

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:36:00am

re: #280 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:38:47am

re: #233 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is part of the bigger promise he sold Middle America: well paid jobs for poorly educated voters.

It’s not only the poorly educated who have to fear loss of jobs. Thanks to offshoring there are well educated with good skills who are losing jobs to those who can work for a fraction of the pay expected here. How many programming jobs are now being done in India because the wages are so much lower than here?

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:38:52am

re: #282 wheat-dogg

I’d quibble over the “better” part.

He’s still suffering from that horrible skin disease on his back that looks like a portrait of Richard Nixon. Perhaps he can get that fixed while the ACA is still in effect.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:39:30am

I personally have no ill will for Ivanka, maybe I’m approaching this with too suspicious an eye. She and her husband will be powerful people in the future regardless of what happens to Yam short of nuclear holocaust. She has made it a point of gaining powerful global contacts and if anyone doesn’t think daddy’s not grooming her for the future is blind.

She may be fine as I think she has the brains here father lacks. That can run both ways but considering who she is surrounded with, I don’t hold up much hope.

Thoughts

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:39:34am

re: #285 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s not only the poorly educated who have to fear loss of jobs. Thanks to offshoring there are well educated with good skills who are losing jobs to those who can work for a fraction of the pay expected here. How many programming jobs are now being done in India because the wages are so much lower than here?

Many of those will go away too: Programs are writing other programs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:42:51am

re: #285 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s not only the poorly educated who have to fear loss of jobs. Thanks to offshoring there are well educated with good skills who are losing jobs to those who can work for a fraction of the pay expected here. How many programming jobs are now being done in India because the wages are so much lower than here?

Yunno, competing on wages is one thing: that is our incentive to work smarter and more efficiently. Which we do to a great extent.

But instead, we are competing on the costs of worker safety and environmental protection. The GOP answer is to drag ourselves down to the level of India and China rather to use tariff and trade restrictions to force them to come up to our level.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:45:10am

Russia’s propaganda outlet RT (formerly Radio Moscow) reports that Moscow “knows nothing” of Rex Tillerson’s scheduled April visit:
rt.com

Moscow diplomats say they are not aware of any preparations for a visit by US State Secretary Rex Tillerson. Reuters said the American would arrive in Russia in April.

When asked about the reported visit on Tuesday, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov told Interfax: “I know nothing about it.”

(more at RT)

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wheat-dogg  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:45:17am

re: #287 Dave In Austin

I personally have no ill will for Ivanka, maybe I’m approaching this with too suspicious an eye. She and her husband will be powerful people in the future regardless of what happens to Yam short of nuclear holocaust. She has made it a point of gaining powerful global contacts and if anyone doesn’t think daddy’s not grooming her for the future is blind.

She may be fine as I think she has the brains here father lacks. That can run both ways but considering who she is surrounded with, I don’t hold up much hope.

Thoughts

Regardless of her intellect, as the president’s daughter she has no business (heh) getting a security clearance and an office for the sole reason that she is the president’s daughter. Being his “eyes and ears” sounds like she’s there to compensate for daddy’s failing intellectual abilities OR to be a family spy among the staff OR both.

If Ivanka wants a job in the White House, she could try getting some political or public service experience first, instead of taking the shortcut offered by her daddy.

Plus Kushner being the shadow Secretary of State leaves a bad taste in my mouth, considering what an empty hat Tillerson is.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:46:48am

re: #290 Anymouse

Russia’s propaganda outlet RT (formerly Radio Moscow) reports that Moscow “knows nothing” of Rex Tillerson’s scheduled April visit:
rt.com

(more at RT)

So, perhaps he was uninvited, and didn’t get the message.

Perhaps the Russians figure it’s time to put some distance between them and Trump & Co.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:47:17am

re: #291 wheat-dogg

This is the ultimate goal….

A Vision of the Future?
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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:47:56am

re: #291 wheat-dogg

It has been argued that Mr. Trump actually didn’t escape his “personal Vietnam” (spit) and is suffering the ravages of the end stage of a VD.

That is entirely speculation of course by lefties with nothing better to speculate about (and trying to play Internet Doctor) by matching perceived behaviours with medical conditions. It is an interesting conspiracy theory though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:49:09am

re: #290 Anymouse

Russia’s propaganda outlet RT (formerly Radio Moscow) reports that Moscow “knows nothing” of Rex Tillerson’s scheduled April visit:
rt.com

(more at RT)

Next time Tillerson steps into the sunlight, somebody needs to make sure he casts a shadow…

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:49:09am

re: #285 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s not only the poorly educated who have to fear loss of jobs. Thanks to offshoring there are well educated with good skills who are losing jobs to those who can work for a fraction of the pay expected here. How many programming jobs are now being done in India because the wages are so much lower than here?

I saw a stat the other day that something like 40% of programming jobs will go away. I figure a lot of those will be of the “read this data, store it in a database” variety, because it’s not only going to become easier to automate that, but because storage is so cheap, we can just about store everything, and perform data analysis later to decide what’s important, of which a lot of that decision making process is already automated.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:49:36am

re: #293 Dave In Austin

This is the ultimate goal….

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I’ll accept our Canadian Overlord Prime Minister Trudeau … he just needs to kick the other two out of the Oval Office first. /s

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:51:57am

For someone who claims to have a degree from Wharton, Trump doesn’t get economics at all, and cares even less for basic economics statistics and data.

This affects everything from his nonsensical claims about the US economy being smaller than it actually is to claims that he’ll bring back the coal mining jobs.

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I cannot.  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:53:27am

re: #280 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Apparently your buddy did too much work with heavy metals. Because wow.

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:53:32am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:54:54am

Reason 5432 why we don’t want Pence as POTUS.

Shameless Pages Promotion

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:55:22am

re: #300 Anymouse

Fox News tells viewers to ignore Comey’s bombshell testimony

Just like they ignored it in November, right?

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:56:04am

re: #298 lawhawk

because being the richest nation is a necessary and virtuous goal?

WTF?

How about a nation that truly values civil rights —not just property rights.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:57:16am

re: #303 Birth Control Works

because being the richest nation is a necessary and virtuous goal?

WTF?

How about a nation that truly values civil rights —not just property rights.

I think Nation=Trump in his mind. The king must truly be rich.

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:58:59am
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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 7:59:21am

We can hope… .

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:00:05am

re: #293 Dave In Austin

This is the ultimate goal….

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Trump names Ivanka as POTUS then steps down, and Canada invades?

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:00:44am
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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:01:12am

re: #307 The Vicious Babushka

Trump names Ivanka as POTUS then steps down, and Canada invades?

Well, they did burn the White House a couple centuries ago. Maybe CSIS or Canada’s Defence Ministry is working up a contingency plan for another one. /s

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Anymouse  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:02:25am

Ivanka Trump has legal troubles:

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Interesting Times  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:03:05am

re: #306 Anymouse

We can hope… .

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Utterly impossible while the GOP controls congress. They’ve made it beyond clear that trump is allowed to commit whatever crimes he wants. He could literally “shoot someone on 5th Avenue” and they’d let him get away with it (and I’m not even being sarcastic. This is how far they’ve fallen).

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:03:08am

re: #303 Birth Control Works

because being the richest nation is a necessary and virtuous goal?

WTF?

How about a nation that truly values civil rights —not just property rights.

It’s all about perceptions. Make America Great Again. America First (all the tried and true white supremacist/neo Nazi slogans for decades gone by). Get white people who fondly remember the days when minorities didn’t or couldn’t vote and women knew their place was to be a brood mare and nothing more.

Trump’s goal is to blame Obama for the national condition and that Trump’s the only one who can fix it. He did it during the campaign, and he’s still doing it.

Make people think that Obama broke the nation, when he did the very opposite.
Make people think that the economy sucks(sucked) and that he’s going to make it better and bigger and more power than ever.
Make the nation think that crime is out of control and not that crime is at or near historic lows - in raw terms and per capita levels.
Make people think that cops are being targeted by criminals - when cops killed in the line of duty by criminals is also near lows.
Make people think that illegal aliens are behind the crime and drug epidemics, when they’re actually smaller percentage than the general public.

All you have to do to buy into this nonsense is ignore all the statistics and evidence.

The Trump voters have willingly gone along with all this, and they still back Trump despite all the lies (or perhaps because of the lies - they need the lies to validate their own worldviews).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:03:56am

re: #310 Anymouse

Ivanka Trump has legal troubles:

this nuance was obviously lost: DT might be exempt from criminal prosecution by anyone but Congress, but his family members are not…

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:04:53am

Propane Jane, as usual, gets it

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:05:00am

The threat is the Great Negotiator’s only negotiation tool.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:05:36am

re: #312 lawhawk

It’s all about perceptions. Make America Great Again.

make people think that all we have to do is remove onerous government safety and environmental regulations and jobs will return to mining and heavy industry…

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:06:03am

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:06:13am

re: #315 jaunte

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The threat is the Great Negotator’s only negotiation tool.

That just proves he is a bully with no “Deal Making Superpowers” as he plays on TV.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:07:10am

re: #315 jaunte

The threat is the Great Negotiator’s only negotiation tool.

You would think most of them would realize he doesn’t have that power.

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:07:49am

re: #319 Belafon

He’s a crappy negotiator.

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Citizen K  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:08:20am

In lighter fair…managed to quip back at Neil Gaiman after he tweeted about stealth-signing copies of Norse Mythology at Heathrow, and actually got a response from him:

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Franklin  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:08:55am

re: #319 Belafon

You would think most of them would realize he doesn’t have that power.

They hopefully realize they will lose their seats if they DO repeal and replace the ACA with the current bill.

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electrotek  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:11:37am
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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:12:58am

Trump is becoming completely powerless against any GOP defections from his policies. Now they increasingly have ammo of the FBI testimony and others to follow with Impeachment firmly on the table. Gone is the Trump who can simply force his will on Congress seemingly at will. What has happened within 3 months of his Presidency is that his deplorable character, his deplorable policies, his deplorable parade of con men syncophants in his administration, and his deplorable know-nothing voters are being outed daily as the disasters they really are in real life. Impeachment will come 3 months from now and the GOP will be free to implement their agenda with no populist red meat consideration at all.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:13:49am

re: #321 Citizen K

In lighter fair…managed to quip back at Neil Gaiman after he tweeted about stealth-signing copies of Norse Mythology at Heathrow, and actually got a response from him:

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he is so cool

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:14:49am

re: #320 jaunte

He’s a crappy negotiator.

He’s an awful negotiator. For starters, you have to know what you are negotiating and what both sides want. Making threats that you can’t keep makes those threats meaningless.

Trump doesn’t have political capital he thinks he has and the threat shows that he has nothing to offer.

This is essentially the lawsuit fallback approach. Threaten to nuke the GOP in the Midterms if they don’t give him what he wants, which is fine by Democrats either way. Nothing benefits Trump here. There’s no outcome by engaging in a war of words with the GOP on Capitol Hill that helps Trump.

The GOP is in a mess of their own making, and they’ve got an idiot in the WH who thinks bluster is how things get done.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:16:00am

re: #312 lawhawk

ah!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:16:26am

re: #324 electrotek

American tourists chant “build that wall” on a Cancun cruise

WTF. Talk about living up to the Ugly American stereotype. I always go out of my way when I’ve been abroad to realize that I’m in their country. Sure, my foreign language skills aren’t the best but I do try to respect the fact that I’m a guest.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:16:30am

re: #310 Anymouse

I don’t think she has a clue.

she is a tool of the men in her life.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:17:21am

re: #324 electrotek

American tourists chant “build that wall” on a Cancun cruise

walls keep people in as well as keeping people out

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I cannot.  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:17:39am

re: #325 Rocky-in-Connecticut

I’m not entirely sure about that, besides the trade protectionism, Trump’s policies seem to be the GOP policies. If Trump crashes and burns, he takes support for them with him, if he makes it to the mid-terms, we saddle the GOPers with Trump’s policies and their defense of them, and they get taken out anyway.

At least, that’s my hopeful scenario.

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:17:52am
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Dr. Matt  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:18:18am

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:19:18am

re: #262 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Some really great disc golfing around Des Moines.

I have a cousin from that area who is quite talented in disc golf. I didn’t realize that it’s such a thing.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:19:24am

re: #334 Dr. Matt

WARNING: You may need eye bleach!

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Gah, you know it’s too early for drinking!

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I cannot.  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:19:32am

re: #334 Dr. Matt

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:20:43am
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Dr. Matt  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:21:10am

re: #336 HappyWarrior

Gah, you know it’s too early for drinking!

Pfffffffft. I disagree. It’s never too late or too early to drink and/or eat pizza. So sayeth me.

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Teukka  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:21:33am

re: #334 Dr. Matt

WARNING: You may need eye bleach!

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Aiiiigh! MY EYES! MY EYES!

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:21:58am

If you put money down that the latest Trump travel ban nonsense about electronic equipment on flights from certain Muslim countries was about nothing more than imposing hardships, you win.

The ban had no basis in anything other than wanton mischief by the admin.

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electrotek  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:22:27am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

WTF. Talk about living up to the Ugly American stereotype. I always go out of my way when I’ve been abroad to realize that I’m in their country. Sure, my foreign language skills aren’t the best but I do try to respect the fact that I’m a guest.

Of course, the same dipshits who complain about Muslims not integrating have absolutely NOTHING to say about this.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:23:03am

Wanting another Originalist Justice makes perfect sense, if your goal is to ignore all progress and innovation inevitable in an ever-changing nation:

-An America that has grown into something the Founding Fathers could never have imagined.
-An America where a musket has evolved into an AK-47.
-An America that granted women and black folks full autonomy and the right to vote. I mean, that would have been unimaginable. What would happen if they exercised their rights? (Exactly!)

Those kinds of ideas were not even a consideration back then! Hell, a lot of the constitutional issues that are now coming before the court were unimaginable even 20 years ago.

So what happens when we have judges currently serving on the Supreme Court who hear cases involving today’s advancements in science, technology and privacy, yet they have no idea how it works? If they don’t understand how people actually live in the modern world, how can people actually achieve justice in a modern world?!

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electrotek  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:23:35am

re: #341 lawhawk

If you put money down that the latest Trump travel ban nonsense about electronic equipment on flights from certain Muslim countries was about nothing more than imposing hardships, you win.

The ban had no basis in anything other than wanton mischief by the admin.

Don’t discount the protectionist aspect either.

I’m willing to bet that this measure was a result of intense lobbying by US-based airlines over the “Open Skies” agreement. They found a receptive ear with the Trump administration and it shows.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:24:24am

re: #336 HappyWarrior

Gah, you know it’s too early for drinking!

What do you mean, it looks like someone has already got a jump on it.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:24:29am

re: #342 electrotek

Of course, the same dipshits who complain about Muslims not integrating have absolutely NOTHING to say about this.

Christians and American’s shouldn’t have to change. The Rest of the World should want to be just like us —we need to be examples.

gah

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:25:17am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:25:21am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:25:48am

re: #342 electrotek

Of course, the same dipshits who complain about Muslims not integrating have absolutely NOTHING to say about this.

Of course not. They probably want the Mexicans bothered by it to “stop being so offended so easily.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:26:54am

re: #339 Dr. Matt

Pfffffffft. I disagree. It’s never too late or too early to drink and/or eat pizza. So sayeth me.

Touche. I do have a pretty light day working from home today thankfully.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:27:01am

re: #349 HappyWarrior

Of course not. They probably want the Mexicans bothered by it to “stop being so offended so easily.”

Just good ol’ boys an’ girls havin’ a bit of red-blooded American fun…

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Dr. Matt  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:27:03am

re: #341 lawhawk

If you put money down that the latest Trump travel ban nonsense about electronic equipment on flights from certain Muslim countries was about nothing more than imposing hardships, you win.

The ban had no basis in anything other than wanton mischief by the admin.

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I think first and foremost it is a pathetic attempt to distract the media from yesterday’s disastrous hearings.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:27:30am

re: #351 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just good ol’ boys an’ girls havin’ a bit of red-blooded American fun…

Yep.

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electrotek  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:27:48am

re: #349 HappyWarrior

Of course not. They probably want the Mexicans bothered by it to “stop being so offended so easily.”

Yet they are the ones that get their panties in a bunch if anyone criticizes Trump or Chris Kyle.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:28:52am

re: #334 Dr. Matt

WARNING: You may need eye bleach!

You fucker. Put that in spoiler tags please.

Here is some eye bleach:

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:30:18am

re: #354 electrotek

Yet they are the ones that get their panties in a bunch if anyone criticizes Trump or Chris Kyle.

Precisely. Funny how their attitude about PC changes when it’s something they like being lampooned. It’s honestly just plain rule. These Spring Breakers were visitors in Mexico. Be fucking polite.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:30:25am
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Belafon  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:30:42am

re: #338 Birth Control Works

Which is why we have to starve them now. //

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electrotek  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:31:16am

re: #356 HappyWarrior

Precisely. Funny how their attitude about PC changes when it’s something they like being lampooned. It’s honestly just plain rule. These Spring Breakers were visitors in Mexico. Be fucking polite.

They’re like Aussie bogans that go on holiday in Bali.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:31:59am
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Dr. Matt  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:32:15am

This is what a bitch-slap looks and sounds like:

Himes: Trump will “attack anyone & everyone” including Hamilton cast, Schumer, U.S. allies, intel community. Asks—why won’t he attack Putin?
@BraddJaffy

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:32:21am

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:33:40am

re: #355 The Vicious Babushka

more like prescription eye medicine!!!!

more please

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Teukka  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:35:09am

re: #363 Birth Control Works

more like prescription eye medicine!!!!

more please

Is this the appropriate strength?

Cat soothing crying baby to sleep - too cute!

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:35:19am

re: #335 Barefoot Grin

I have a cousin from that area who is quite talented in disc golf. I didn’t realize that it’s such a thing.

Des Moines was the site of the 2004 world championships. Disc golf is the least-known fastest-growing sport. Just within 50 miles of my home in Ann Arbor there are 103 courses, including my private 27-hole course, and one of the online directories just passed the 7,000 courses listed mark.

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danarchy  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:35:20am

re: #354 electrotek

Yet they are the ones that get their panties in a bunch if anyone criticizes Trump or Chris Kyle.

Somehow I doubt a boat full of drunk 20 something college students are all Trump supporters or have any clue who Chris Kyle is…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:35:57am

re: #360 lawhawk

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They’re not even disguising the fact that they’re a propaganda outlet anymore.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:37:44am

re: #366 danarchy

Somehow I doubt a boat full of drunk 20 something college students are all Trump supporters or have any clue who Chris Kyle is…

I think he was talking about the types that will tell the Mexican people to “stop being so easily offended.” I dunno though, it’s quite feasible they could be Trump fans, why chant build that wall? I think Kyle was meant more to be an example anyhow in how right wingers think they can make fun of anyone but any talk of their heroes is quickly SHUT UP.

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:37:49am

Very slippery.

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(alpuz)  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:38:59am

re: #356 HappyWarrior

Precisely. Funny how their attitude about PC changes when it’s something they like being lampooned. It’s honestly just plain rule. These Spring Breakers were visitors in Mexico. Be fucking polite.

Have you ever been on spring break in Mexico? Holy shit, the U.S. college kids are the epitome of dumbassedness. I took a train from Nogales, AZ to Mazatlan back in ‘89(?) and I’ll never forget how the U.S. college kids were treating the locals. It disgusts me to this day.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:39:25am

re: #365 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Des Moines was the site of the 2004 world championships. Disc golf is the least-known fastest-growing sport. Just within 50 miles of my home in Ann Arbor there are 103 courses, including my private 27-hole course, and one of the online directories just passed the 7,000 courses listed mark.

Thanks. This helps explain something else: there is a small storefront in a strip mall near me that sells disc golf stuff, but I see almost no courses around here. Maybe I don’t know about the courses, or maybe they are tapping into the growth through online sales.

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jeffreyw  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:41:37am

re: #343 Birth Control Works

Wanting another Originalist Justice makes perfect sense, if your goal is to ignore all progress and innovation inevitable in an ever-changing nation:

Calling oneself an “Originalist” is just another way of saying “I will rule according to MY interpretation of what the Founders meant because I can read the minds of dead people. It’s amazing how much we think alike!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:42:01am

MOAR EYE BLEACH

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:42:11am

re: #364 Teukka

Is this the appropriate strength?

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Video

so perfect!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:42:48am

re: #370 (alpuz)

Have you ever been on spring break in Mexico? Holy shit, the U.S. college kids are the epitome of dumbassedness. I took a train from Nogales, AZ to Mazatlan back in ‘89(?) and I’ll never forget how the U.S. college kids were treating the locals. It disgusts me to this day.

No, I haven’t. Even when I was younger- high school and college aged, I hated the whole Spring Break in Mexico stuff I would see on MTV because I thought those kids acted like Ugly Americans. I mean having a little bit of fun is fine and I love to knock back a few in a foreign land but I’ve always tried to be polite as possible and aware that I’m their guest.

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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:43:32am

re: #245 The Vicious Babushka

THE BUTTER COW

The Ohio State Fair has a Butter Cow too. Probably other state fairs have them.

Iowa’s Butter Cow better be something special.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:44:42am

re: #373 The Vicious Babushka

MOAR EYE BLEACH

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my neighbor’s grown cat sits in their window and will look at me just like this little kitten

so freakin’ cute!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:45:22am

re: #376 ObserverArt

The Ohio State Fair has a Butter Cow too. Probably other state fairs have them.

Iowa’s Butter Cow better be something special.

It is deep-fried

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:48:45am

re: #376 ObserverArt

The Ohio State Fair has a Butter Cow too. Probably other state fairs have them.

Iowa’s Butter Cow better be something special.

I don’t understand the cow thing.

Years ago, whenI was living out-of-state, I returned to Chicago for a visit. Driving on Upper Whacker, I almost missed the turn at the river and nearly plowed right into a “art cow”.

It simply did not compute. Why was there a weirdly decorated full size cow next to the road.

The Space Cow is not at the Science and Industry …

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Timothy Watson  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:49:26am

re: #376 ObserverArt

The Ohio State Fair has a Butter Cow too. Probably other state fairs have them.

Iowa’s Butter Cow better be something special.

The West Wing 3x13 - butter

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:50:45am

from my fb:

my $1.37… I want PBS.
Take my $.46… I am all for federal funding of art programs.
Take my $.46… I love museums, colleges, and libraries.
Take my $.11… I support developing minority businesses.
Take my $.66… I am for entrepreneurship and innovation.
Take my $1.60… I want us to export more goods overseas.
Take my $0.43… I would like to see more American manufacturing.
Take my $0.88… I think community policing needs improvement.
Take my $1.48… I support programs for women.
Take my $1.55… I believe in due process for all.
Take my $0.48… We need a civil rights division in the justice department.
Take my $0.38… I think we need to defend our Mother Earth.
Take my $0.03… I know more work needs to be done to moderate climate change.
Take my $8.95… because we need to develop sustainable energy.
Take my $2.71… we should reduce our carbon footprint.
If saving these programs means I’m out $22.36 a year, I’m good with contributing my $.07 a day to save American jobs and these federal programs.
Feel free to copy and paste to your page if you agree. Numbers taken from a report in Time Magazine about the roles of 17 federal agencies.
After looking at all of these important programs, it seems really petty to take this away! I challenge anyone to say that their life is not enriched, safer, healthier, and just by having all of this. This is what our government should be doing for the people and I gladly, proudly give my tax dollars so that your life is enriched, safer, healthier and just. Will you do the same for me?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:51:43am

re: #379 Birth Control Works

I don’t understand the cow thing.

Town of Milton Keynes in the UK is famous for them

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electrotek  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:52:05am

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:52:27am

re: #382 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Town of Milton Keynes in the UK is famous for them

too freakin’ weird for me

And I have a high tolerance for weird.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:53:56am

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Dave In Austin  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:54:18am

What is Lindsey saying here? I’m just coming in on this. It’s sounding like a rebuke of McConnell.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:56:00am

Never Mind……

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Dr. Matt  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:58:15am

Embed below:

The Most Unsatisfying Video in the World ever made

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Archangelus  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:58:19am

re: #334 Dr. Matt

WARNING: You may need eye bleach!

..

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For when Johnston’s Eye Bleach comes too little, too late…
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Dr. Matt  Mar 21, 2017 • 8:59:35am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:08:42am

Women Wore ‘Handmaid’s Tale’ Robes To The Texas Senate Floor
On Monday, the Texas Senate considered several abortion-related bills, including Senate Bill 415, a regulation that would effectively ban a safe and common procedure used for second trimester abortions, which anti-choice legislators have taken to calling a “dismemberment abortion ban.” It passed and will now head to the House.

The Senate also inched forward with SB 25 ― a bill that would effectively allow doctors to lie to pregnant women if they detect a fetal anomaly and are concerned their patients might opt for abortion. It will likely head for a final vote on the floor this week.

But in the Senate chambers on Monday, a group of Texas women were having none of it. The activists arrived decked out in full red robes, an homage to characters in “The Handmaid’s Tale,” Margaret Atwood’s classic (and distressingly relevant) feminist tome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:11:43am

re: #102 ObserverArt

Squirrel almost needs to be hidden in privacy tags. Heh.

sometimes a squirrel is just a squirrel…

:D

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:13:19am

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

sometimes a squirrel is just a squirrel…

:D

and a moose is just a moose…

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:15:54am

re: #393 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and a moose is just a moose…

It eventually always comes back to the Russians.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:19:27am
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Teukka  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:22:43am

On my side of the pond, this just impacted the rotary air distribution apparatus:

All major Swedish banks named in money-laundering probe - Radio Sweden

The Swedish bank Nordea is subject to a major international money-laundering probe, the Danish newspaper Berlingske reported on Monday night. It now turns out that Handelsbanken, Swedbank and SEB are also involved.

Berlingske carried out the investigation as part of an international reporter network, as the money-laundering probe also involves banks in Germany, the UK and the US. A total of at least USD 20 billion was reportedly laundered between 2011 and 2014, and the money is thought to originate from criminal activities in Russia.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:24:34am

We should not do this, it’s a war crime.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:25:36am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:26:03am

re: #396 Teukka

On my side of the pond, this just impacted the rotary air distribution apparatus:

All major Swedish banks named in money-laundering probe - Radio Sweden

Proof that Sweden is overrun with white-collar crime and not safe to visit. We cannot allow Swedish conditions to flourish in the USA!!!

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:29:05am

re: #399 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Proof that Sweden is overrun with white-collar crime and not safe to visit. We cannot allow Swedish conditions to flourish in the USA!!!

gee, why would anyone involved want Dodd-Frank to be repealed?

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Teukka  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:30:13am

re: #399 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Proof that Sweden is overrun with white-collar crime and not safe to visit. We cannot allow Swedish conditions to flourish in the USA!!!

*groans*
*headdesks*

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:31:35am

more medicine:

Champis - den vallande kaninen

OTC

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:34:28am

re: #396 Teukka

On my side of the pond, this just impacted the rotary air distribution apparatus:

All major Swedish banks named in money-laundering probe - Radio Sweden

The Swedish bank Nordea is subject to a major international money-laundering probe, the Danish newspaper Berlingske reported on Monday night. It now turns out that Handelsbanken, Swedbank and SEB are also involved.

Berlingske carried out the investigation as part of an international reporter network, as the money-laundering probe also involves banks in Germany, the UK and the US. A total of at least USD 20 billion was reportedly laundered between 2011 and 2014, and the money is thought to originate from criminal activities in Russia.

I’m willing to bet some Czech banks will get caught up in this before all is said and done.

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Jay C  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:34:43am

re: #319 Belafon

You would think most of them would realize he doesn’t have that power.

Probably: but likely only a percentage. And also likely to be too late….

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:36:13am

der schrughmph used the phrase “we think” when discussing the likelyhood of a positive vote on the medicaid killing legislation, which i take to mean it dont look good

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Birth Control Works  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:37:11am

BBL

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:37:30am

re: #402 Birth Control Works

more medicine:

[Embedded content]

Video

OTC

“run away! run away!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:43:17am
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Dr. Matt  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:51:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:54:30am

The Fox News headline:

REVEALED: FBI wiretapped Trump Tower

in 2013 to bust Russian mobsters headquartered inside

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Dr. Matt  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:54:56am

Instagram

The difference is like night and day.

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retired cynic  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:55:28am

There have been plenty of comments here about the lack of common sense and basic math skills on the Republican side. “El Jefe” is a poster on Juanita Jean’s blog, and he tackled the federal budget, income and outgo, and misleading memes. It is pretty good, IMO: juanitajean.com

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:55:37am

re: #410 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Fox News headline:

REVEALED: FBI wiretapped Trump Tower

in 2013 to bust Russian mobsters headquartered inside

I think you give them too much credit. They won’t include the second line.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:56:03am

Iranian New Year, but with Kittehs

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2017 • 9:57:42am

re: #414 Unshaken Defiance

Iranian New Year, but with Kittehs

Is their calendar lunar based, or is it always March 21st?

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:01:00am

re: #415 Belafon

Lunar iirc.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:01:18am

Your morning stupid from the GOP.

GOP Rep. Scott Perry Says Chesapeake Bay Pollution Is God’s Fault

huffingtonpost.com?

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Jay C  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:01:42am

re: #415 Belafon

Is their calendar lunar based, or is it always March 21st?

Tied to the vernal equinox.

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electrotek  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:02:26am

re: #414 Unshaken Defiance

Iranian New Year, but with Kittehs

Speaking of Nowruz, it’s pathetic how there’s quite a few Muslims who think celebrating Nowruz is haram all of a sudden.

Then again, these are the same people who also believe music is haram too.

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Franklin  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:02:41am

re: #411 Dr. Matt

My daughter is reading this:

And there is an excerpt about how Sec. Clinton wrote a letter to NASA as a child after being inspired by JFK. (They wrote back and told her there was no interest in female astronauts).

I showed my daughter one of my favorite JFK speeches (likely one that inspired Clinton). It’s is such a stark comparison to our current minority president.

JFK - We choose to go to the Moon, full length

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:02:44am

re: #418 Jay C

Tied to the vernal equinox.

Cool. My middle son’s birthday is today. He’d enjoy having his birthday announced as “Happy New Year!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:05:15am

re: #417 Skip Intro

Your morning stupid from the GOP.

GOP Rep. Scott Perry Says Chesapeake Bay Pollution Is God’s Fault

huffingtonpost.com?

Ronald Reagan would be proud of him

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:08:19am

re: #417 Skip Intro

Your morning stupid from the GOP.

GOP Rep. Scott Perry Says Chesapeake Bay Pollution Is God’s Fault

huffingtonpost.com?

First quick reading saw that as Rick Perry.
Second quick reading saw that as Scott Pruitt.

Then I realized you could insert generic GOPer, and you’d get the same kind of answer. These people don’t care about the environment or protecting people from harms due to companies dumping crap in the air, water, or soil. They just see dollar signs - and more profits to be had if they could do as they please.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:08:45am

DOOFUS OF THE DAY

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:09:02am

Judge Gorsuch is lucky his confirmation hearing isn’t a personality contest, because he doesn’t appear to have one.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:09:03am

re: #423 lawhawk

First quick reading saw that as Rick Perry.
Second quick reading saw that as Scott Pruitt.

Then I realized you could insert generic GOPer, and you’d get the same kind of answer. These people don’t care about the environment or protecting people from harms due to companies dumping crap in the air, water, or soil. They just see dollar signs - and more profits to be had if they could do as they please.

Which Christian blames God for that?

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:13:32am

re: #424 The Vicious Babushka

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:14:06am
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:14:26am

re: #424 The Vicious Babushka

DOOFUS OF THE DAY

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re: #427 jaunte

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Hate to bring politics into it….

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wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:16:08am

re: #427 jaunte

[Gorsuch, who displays a level of pomposity that I suppose some people find disarming]

Disarming pomposity, the most dangerous kind.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:19:28am

re: #418 Jay C

Right, and frankly the start of Spring makes so much more sense than the middle of Winter.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:19:57am

re: #430 wrenchwench

Disarming pomposity, the most dangerous kind.

I believe the medical term is Reaganitis.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:20:46am
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plansbandc  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:24:10am

re: #424 The Vicious Babushka

Further proof of amazing R “humor”.

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:24:44am

It won’t stop there. Two of my daughters’ adoptions were delayed by 6 months because the foster parents found out my wife and I weren’t Baptists.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:24:48am

Start calling Murkowski

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:26:09am

Wow so “Dealmaking Superpowers” very Business success

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:30:09am

“Father of the Interplanetary Highway System”
So Donald Trump is a Vogon.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:30:34am

re: #437 The Vicious Babushka

And this is all with a GOP favorable to repeal and replace (in the abstract). The reality is that the GOP doesn’t want repeal or replace either, since they’ll be on the hook for kicking 24 million or more off insurance coverage, and that’s a number they can’t ignore.

It was easy for the GOP to carry 60+ votes to repeal Obamacare when Obama was still in office since they knew they didn’t need an actual plan or scored proposal. They knew it was all a show to convince their idiotic supporters they meant business.

It worked - they now control Congress and the WH, but they now have to actually follow through - and math is a big deal.

The GOP doesn’t have the numbers to pass in the Senate, and the economics of the GOP plan makes no sense except for anyone who is rich and sees the big tax breaks the plan provides. Everyone else gets fucked (legal term).

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Citizen K  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:31:13am

re: #420 Franklin

My daughter is reading this:

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And there is an excerpt about how Sec. Clinton wrote a letter to NASA as a child after being inspired by JFK. (They wrote back and told her there was no interest in female astronauts).

I showed my daughter one of my favorite JFK speeches (likely one that inspired Clinton). It’s is such a stark comparison to our current minority president.

[Embedded content]

And here I am still dealing with contemporaries who treat it like a given that Clinton was the most evil, corrupt Superwitch of all time and space and treat her as proof positive of the hopelessness of the Dem party.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:33:04am

BECAUSE THEY CAN, THAT’S WHY

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Citizen K  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:35:52am

re: #441 The Vicious Babushka

BECAUSE THEY CAN, THAT’S WHY

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“There’s no enforcement”. This is the exact problem: there seems to be precious little worth in exposing their corruption, their lack of ethics, their absolute callousness if all the people who have the power to do something about it won’t do a fucking thing, either because they’re paid for, ideological allies, or just too scared of retaliation and repercussion.

This is why I’m left disbelieving any public opposition to anything with Trumps’ name on it until votes are counted, because when it comes down to brass tacks, Republicans will circle the wagons and fall in line because they’ll get exactly what they want anyway, and no one can do a fucking thing about it.

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electrotek  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:35:57am

🙄🙄

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:39:39am
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Kragar  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:39:49am
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jaunte  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:40:28am
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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:40:50am

re: #441 The Vicious Babushka

BECAUSE THEY CAN, THAT’S WHY

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Like taxes, they’re only a problem for the little people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:41:07am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:41:30am

THIS TWEET WINS THE INTERNET

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:42:30am
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Franklin  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:43:41am

re: #440 Citizen K

And here I am still dealing with contemporaries who treat it like a given that Clinton was the most evil, corrupt Superwitch of all time and space and treat her as proof positive of the hopelessness of the Dem party.

I’m brainwashing her :)

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:43:45am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:44:48am
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Kragar  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:46:14am
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jaunte  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:47:14am
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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:47:27am

re: #450 Backwoods_Sleuth

This nitwit’s going to blame his no vote on a nonexistent concern - that illegal aliens might get tax credits?

Here’s a hint - if you’re filing a tax return, the IRS gets a SSN or tax id number, and verifies that the person’s paid income taxes.

This is an excuse to vote no when the reality is that the guy probably knows this is a shit sandwich for his constituents but can’t say that out loud because he’s been demanding repeal of Obamacare for years and the GOP can’t deliver anything approaching Obamacare’s level of coverage for as many people and for comparable costs.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:47:44am
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:53:46am
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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:55:04am

re: #456 lawhawk

The thing about tax credits is that if you don’t owe as much tax as the credits are worth, you lose. Of course the GOP knows that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:55:50am
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Kragar  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:56:22am

re: #459 Skip Intro

The thing about tax credits is if you don’t have the money to pay for the services they cover in the first place, you lose them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2017 • 10:57:03am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2017 • 11:01:25am

Oh

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gocart mozart  Mar 21, 2017 • 11:09:59am
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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2017 • 11:12:37am

re: #459 Skip Intro

The thing about tax credits is that if you don’t owe as much tax as the credits are worth, you lose. Of course the GOP knows that.

Plus you don’t get to use them till you file. Doesn’t help with the exorbitant premiums all year.

So much bullshit.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 21, 2017 • 11:12:45am

re: #444 Backwoods_Sleuth

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danarchy  Mar 21, 2017 • 11:24:55am

re: #459 Skip Intro

The thing about tax credits is that if you don’t owe as much tax as the credits are worth, you lose. Of course the GOP knows that.

That is true of deductions, credits you get whether or not you owe taxes, like the earned income tax credit. It is one of the reasons republicans usually hate tax credits.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2017 • 11:53:15am

re: #461 Kragar

The thing about tax credits is if you don’t have the money to pay for the services they cover in the first place, you lose them.

It’s like that asshole big brother or uncle who says “want a candy bar?” and when you say yes, he holds it up just above your reach. Except instead of candy bar, it’s life-saving health care.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 21, 2017 • 12:16:46pm

re: #444 Backwoods_Sleuth


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