An Amazing Set From NPR Tiny Desk Contest Winners: Tank and the Bangas

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Bob Boilen | March 10, 2017 — Out of over 6,000 entries — more submissions than we’ve ever received — Tank And The Bangas won, unanimously, this year’s Tiny Desk Contest. I fully expected their victory performance here at NPR headquarters in D.C. to be celebratory. I didn’t know we’d all end up in tears.

This band combines R&B with hip-hop’s poetry and rollercoaster storytelling, with a flair and alchemy that could only come from New Orleans. Their winning song, “Quick,” mixes liquor and revenge — a sort of modern day take on a great folk tale, but peppered with their own idiosyncratic flair and humor. What I couldn’t see, until they took over my desk, was the depth of their lyricism and the versatility of their players. At one moment fun-filled funk, the next laid-back jazz, rhythm-driven blues — and it all flows seamlessly. And it’s fun to watch: There’s a magic kinship between Tarriona “Tank” Ball and Anjelika “Jelly” Joseph as they share singing roles, like two best friends finishing one another’s sentences.

This is the third year that NPR Music has put out a call in hopes of finding a shining star. I’m still amazed how, after sifting through thousands of videos from abundantly talented musicians, we can find a common winner amongst a range of judges with such different musical backgrounds. But in the end, my All Songs Considered co-host Robin Hilton, Trey Anastasio (Phish), Miguel, Anthony Hamilton, Ben Hopkins (PWR BTTM), BANKS, and folks who listen to an awful lot of music — NPR member station hosts Rita Houston (WFUV), Talia Schlanger (WXPN), Stas THEE Boss (KEXP) — and myself were all equally charmed, delighted and captivated.

And so here it is, a chance to see an artist truly blossoming. It’s just the beginning: A few years ago, for our first Contest, Fantastic Negrito won our hearts. This year he won a Grammy. Last year Gaelynn Lea, an unknown violinist, teacher and singer sent a video captured on a phone and won our affection and souls. A few weeks ago, her Tiny Desk Concert had been seen more than a million times. These days she’s taken to the road, touring the world.

Tank And The Bangas will be hitting the road in April with NPR Music to find their new audience — I’ll be along for the ride — visiting many of our member stations with help from those music-loving beer brewers at Lagunitas. I can’t wait to see the reaction in these crowds’ eyes, as they fill with wonder and tears like ours did, experiencing this band for the first time.

Set List
“Boxes And Squares”
“Quick”
“Rollercoasters”

Musicians
Tarriona Tank Ball (vocals); Jelly Joseph (vocals); Merell Burkett Jr. (keys); Norman Spence II (keys); Joshua Johnson (drums); Jonathan Johnson (bass); Albert Allenback (saxophone)

Credits
Producers: Bob Boilen, Niki Walker; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Niki Walker, Nick Michael, Bronson Arcuri, Morgan Noelle Smith; Production Assistants: A Noah Harrison, Ameeta Ganatra; Photo: Niki Walker/NPR.

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MsJ  Mar 22, 2017 • 9:17:14pm

One last time I’ma gonna pimp this page. Now with a pretty picture and everything!

Correctly Interpreting and Implementing the Lessons of 2016

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jaunte  Mar 22, 2017 • 9:33:35pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 22, 2017 • 10:11:03pm
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Arkansawyer  Mar 22, 2017 • 10:27:59pm

OT: Mass Effect: Andromeda is a different beast, but good none the less. Don’t expect it to be in the same vein as ME 1-3. Yes, it has it’s drawbacks, but better games do as well. Ever played Skyrim?

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BeachDem  Mar 22, 2017 • 10:33:53pm

Somebody help me out here—if they eliminate doctor visits, hospitalization and meds, what exactly will they cover?

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Dave In Austin  Mar 22, 2017 • 10:42:19pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 22, 2017 • 10:45:58pm

re: #5 BeachDem

Somebody help me out here—if they eliminate doctor visits, hospitalization and meds, what exactly will they cover?

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it allows ins companies to offer half assed plans, it doesnt forbid them from offering good ones

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 22, 2017 • 11:05:43pm

I’m really liking the new series Legion, each episode is like an acid trip condensed down to 42 minutes.

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 22, 2017 • 11:11:04pm

oh man, this episode of Legion starts out like when you wake yourself up at 4 AM to take LSD and then go back to sleep and wake up spaced on LSD.

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teleskiguy  Mar 22, 2017 • 11:26:42pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 22, 2017 • 11:43:42pm

Re: shock absorbing seat posts, saddles, etc.: No. Don’t need, because I’m not riding the pave in the Paris-Roubaix.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 12:24:32am

re: #9 Single-handed sailor

oh man, this episode of Legion starts out like when you wake yourself up at 4 AM to take LSD and then go back to sleep and wake up spaced on LSD.

I used to do that in high school with what we thought was THC…turns out it was PCP…veterinary tranquilizers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 12:25:46am

Have not even looked at the RW press but FB is full of “Trump was right about surveillance” gloats…the reason for the surveillance (that these people were in touch with people under investigation) is irrelevant, TRUMP WAS RIGHT!!!

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teleskiguy  Mar 23, 2017 • 12:41:53am
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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 12:49:02am

(I got back from Cheyenne a bit ago - wife and I met with our dine-out group and slaughtered my wallet for $80 worth of steak dinner and tips)

Strangely, we were at FE Warren AFB earlier to go to the Commissary for groceries. In the middle of the afternoon (3PM), suddenly the bugle “To the Colors” sounded across the base, followed by the National Anthem. (If you were never in the military, that means if you’re driving a car on base you stop your car. If you are outside, you turn to the location of the flag and stand with hand over heart if a civilian, at attention if military, and salute if in uniform.)

Not sure if they were practising for sunset or not.

Presumably due to the attack earlier in London, there were three Air Police at the main gate with machine guns and another checking IDs with a pistol. Driving up, we got the usual laugh at our Smart car. (I’m not sure what to make of guys with machine guns laughing at us driving up. I guess we’re safe.) We also usually get an apology when we are close enough to the gate they can see the Gold Star Family plate on the car (and the pin on my shirt).

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 12:51:11am

From the last thread:

re: #82 FormerDirtDart

comment thread on winning lotteries

When I was fifteen, I applied to be a year-long exchange student, a programme sponsored by Michigan’s branch of Rotary International. Rotary would sponsor two students from the whole state. However, the student had to foot the airfare if picked.

My family was dirt poor, so my mother allowed me to enter the selection process. She figured it would be a good way to teach me how to deal with failing to achieve a much-wanted goal.

After a multi-stage interview process, I was one of the two people picked that year. My mother was scrambling to find the money to buy my air tickets (I was aware of how poor we were, but it had not crossed my mind that I would be allowed to enter the programme then denied because we didn’t have enough money to buy a plane ticket).

My mother wound up buying a $1 Michigan scratch-off ticket, which paid out $5,000. That was enough money to get the tickets and passports, as well as suitable clothes and presents for my host family and such. (I was unaware she’d won the lotto - she kept that a secret until many years later.)

I would not recommend a lottery as an investment though. It turned out she learned her lesson (she should have told me no rather than assuming I would be screened out and have to face disappointment).

Had she not won the lottery I don’t know what would have happened, as the rest of my family was pretty cashless as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 12:52:32am

re: #14 teleskiguy

To me, Chuck Berry dying is like Prince dying. Age and cause of death ain’t no thing, both losses are fuckin’ losses.

Chuck dying at the stately age of 90 is sad but not tragic. But Prince was younger than me when he kicked it, now that was tragic.

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majii  Mar 23, 2017 • 12:52:52am

re: #13 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Whenever I post something to Facebook about something Trump has done that makes him or the U.S.look bad, I include the following: One can believe whatever one wants to believe, but that doesn’t mean it’s right/correct/fact-based. The Trump crowd seem to want to believe that he is always right partly because, they think he was/is a very “successful” businessman. They have done the same thing ever since I’ve been paying attention to politics—-they pick a politician that others can immediately identify as a loser when it comes to governing, and they support him/her through thick and thin. They’re card-carrying members of the “Trump Cult.” Although many of them claim to be Christians, they placed their Christianity on the back-burner long ago and replaced it with worshiping different politicians and their political party and hating on our most vulnerable citizens, along with sticking their noses in others’ business by telling the rest of us who we can marry, who is/is not qualified to adopt a baby/child that needs a loving home, who can/cannot be a member of, or lead, a scout troop, what we females can/cannot do with our bodies, etc. I’m a Christian, and I have nothing in common with these persons. I didn’t worship any of the other 44 presidents, and I’m not about to start now. Furthermore, I think they’re ecstatic about Nunes’ lies because it confirms their belief that they made the right choice when they voted for Trump, but I sincerely think they’re in for a hard fall. It took them around six years to realize that Palin doesn’t know anything about anything, so they’re sticking with Trump for now. They’ll abandon him like rats fleeing a burning and sinking ship if any information is ever revealed that he indeed colluded with Russian government officials and business-persons to win the 2016 election. GOPers in Congress will jump ship before the members of the “Trump Cult” do. The cult members are sort of slow at grasping information and even slower in acknowledging that a whole other reality exists outside of the RW bubble they inhabit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 12:54:31am

re: #16 Anymouse

comment thread on winning lotteries

The Magnum Lottery pension plan:

Buy a lottery ticket every week until you reach retirement age.

If you have not won by then, buy a gun and go rob a bank.

Even if you get caught, you are guaranteed meals, medical care and a roof over your head for the rest of your days…

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 23, 2017 • 12:55:35am

re: #16 Anymouse

From the last thread:

When I was fifteen, I applied to be a year-long exchange student, a programme sponsored by Michigan’s branch of Rotary International. Rotary would sponsor two students from the whole state. However, the student had to foot the airfare if picked.

My family was dirt poor, so my mother allowed me to enter the selection process. She figured it would be a good way to teach me how to deal with failing to achieve a much-wanted goal.

After a multi-stage interview process, I was one of the two people picked that year. My mother was scrambling to find the money to buy my air tickets (I was aware of how poor we were, but it had not crossed my mind that I would be allowed to enter the programme then denied because we didn’t have enough money to buy a plane ticket).

My mother wound up buying a $1 Michigan scratch-off ticket, which paid out $5,000. That was enough money to get the tickets and passports, as well as suitable clothes and presents for my host family and such. (I was unaware she’d won the lotto - she kept that a secret until many years later.)

I would not recommend a lottery as an investment though. It turned out she learned her lesson (she should have told me no rather than assuming I would be screened out and have to face disappointment).

Had she not won the lottery I don’t know what would have happened, as the rest of my family was pretty cashless as well.

Yeah, I can understand how your mother felt. My daughter got accepted to UC Berkeley, thank god she didn’t want Stanford.

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majii  Mar 23, 2017 • 12:55:39am

re: #16 Anymouse

Good mamas are really something to hold dear, dads, too. I had both, and I miss them everyday.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 12:56:26am

re: #18 majii

They’ll abandon him like rats fleeing a burning and sinking ship if any information is ever revealed that he indeed colluded with Russian government officials and business-persons to win the 2016 election.

They are working on that angle, too: Russia is our friend, a Partner in Peace and a theocratic state to model ourselves after. Heck, colluding with Russians to save America from Hillary and lying about is not a crime, just like beating your wife is no longer a crime in Russia…

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 23, 2017 • 12:56:45am

re: #21 majii

Good mamas are really something to hold dear.

ain’t that the truth

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teleskiguy  Mar 23, 2017 • 12:58:49am

re: #17 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Both deaths are tragic. And Prince was young and Chuck Berry was old.

Everything dies.

Everything Dies

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teleskiguy  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:03:09am

re: #24 teleskiguy

The bassist/composer/vocalist of this song died seven years ago.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:05:29am

MsJ wrote a recent article here entitled Correctly Interpreting and Implementing the Lessons of 2016, discussing Brexit and the 2016 US election.

From that article:

Second, the thing that we, as Democrats, have to do - and this is tough - is to welcome Trump voters who woke up. I see far too many I Told You So tweets and articles across the web. As much as I want to wring some necks, if someone has figured out that they were bamboozled, good. Nurture them. They will become ambassadors to their right-wing friends and family. These are people who voted for Trump who now regret it. Who better to convert the like minded?

Third, we need to stop calling all Trump voters racist (or anti-semetic, misogynistic, etc.) because while many are, there are equally as many who are not. They are desperate Americans who wanted to believe - who needed to believe because without that belief far too many American’s have lost hope.

Our monthly dine-out in Cheyenne has been rather acerbic in the last several months (my wife and I from Nebraska, everyone else from Wyoming) over politics (particularly over the hippie socialistic vice-mayor).

Today the most outspoken Trump supporter in the group was uncharacteristically retrospective about his support. He was unsure if he’d backed the right horse in the election.

I didn’t bash him in the past, and I did not today. I didn’t say “I told you so” or any of that. I simply noted that seeing where one went wrong is the first step in correcting it. I mostly let him spill his story about how he was wrong about the GOP (he is a lifelong Republican, which I think is the alternative brand for Wyoming’s bucking bronco).

He asked me before we left if I could get him the contact information for the Wyoming Democratic Party, which I E-mailed to him when I got home.

The Dems in Wyoming are in worse shape than they are in Nebraska, but there is a person with lots of conservative friends who at least is now taking a look (and that’s the first step of making inroads in a conservative area).

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:07:52am

re: #20 Single-handed sailor

Yeah, I can understand how your mother felt. My daughter got accepted to UC Berkeley, thank god she didn’t want Stanford.

I’m guessing my mom was happy I chose to go into the Navy. (By that time I knew we couldn’t afford college anyway - well, that, and she and my father had also been in the Navy.)

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:10:51am

re: #21 majii

Good mamas are really something to hold dear, dads, too. I had both, and I miss them everyday.

My father has been gone for half-a-century now … some memories fade but others remain.

My mom is still around and could probably kick my butt. (She has been in Tang Soo Do for a long time.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:14:12am

re: #28 Anymouse

My father has been gone for half-a-century now … some memories fade but others remain.

My mom is still around and could probably kick my butt. (She has been in Tang Soo Do for a long time.)

My dad died, tragically young (age 52), just over 50 years ago…heart attack after digging us out from the Great Blizzard of 1967.

He was not in that bad a shape, but he had complications arising from a car accident he had been in decades earlier that left a lot of scar tissue in his legs, which probably gave off the clot that killed him.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:17:04am

re: #29 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My dad died, tragically young (age 52), just over 50 years ago…heart attack after digging us out from the Great Blizzard of 1967.

He was not in that bad a shape, but he had complications arising from a car accident he had been in decades earlier that left a lot of scar tissue in his legs, which probably gave off the clot that killed him.

Shovelling snow is a real killer. I am sorry to hear that you lost your father at such a young age. (My own father was twenty-nine.)

My mother is seventy-six and still going strong. If male lifespan averages in my family are an indication (which I have already surpassed by a large margin), she’ll probably outlive me.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:19:58am

British Police Make Seven Arrests Following Attack at Westminster:
huffingtonpost.com

Authorities searched six addresses across the country with possible links to the suspect, police said. Police said that they believe the attacker, who was fatally shot by officers, was inspired by Islamist extremism but acted alone.

The vehicle plowed into the crowds on the bridge shortly before 3 p.m. and then drove onto the busy sidewalk in front of the gates of Parliament. Witnesses said the assailant then ran out of the car and rushed through the gates wielding a knife. The assailant fatally stabbed one of the police officers protecting Parliament before being taken down.

Mark Rowley, Metropolitan Police assistant commissioner, said that in addition to the police officer and the assailant, three people were killed on Westminster Bridge. At least 40 others were injured in the attack.

(More at Huffington Post)

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Dave In Austin  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:21:17am
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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:23:05am

Weird stuff at the restaurant we were at in Cheyenne:

They have a tank in the front with a few lobster in it (apparently you can get lobster from the North Platte River or something). I never paid much mind to the tank, but waiting around today for our table, I took a closer look at the lobster tank. (Lobster is on the menu for “market price”)

The tank is acutally a Skil-o-Crane. Three bucks and you can try your luck using a crane game to fish out a lobster. (If you get one, they’ll prepare it at no charge.)

I thought that was mighty bizarre even for Wyoming.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:24:53am

re: #30 Anymouse

Shovelling snow is a real killer. I am sorry to hear that you lost your father at such a young age. (My own father was twenty-nine.)

My mother is seventy-six and still going strong. If male lifespan averages in my family are an indication (which I have already surpassed by a large margin), she’ll probably outlive me.

Yes, anyone over age 50 should just not do it unless they are in exceptional shape. But you must be old enough to recall the blizzard of 1967: 27” of snow with six-foot drifts.

Much worse was the blizzard in 1978/79: four inches of sleet covered by four more of snow and then four more inches of sleet on top of that: it shut everything down for a week.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:25:48am

re: #33 Anymouse

The tank is acutally a Skil-o-Crane. Three bucks and you can try your luck using a crane game to fish out a lobster. (If you get one, they’ll prepare it at no charge.)

Claw vs Claw!!!

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:28:47am

re: #35 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Claw vs Claw!!!

Not Craw, Craw!

The Craw

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:31:22am

re: #31 Anymouse

British Police Make Seven Arrests Following Attack at Westminster:
huffingtonpost.com

(More at Huffington Post)

So this is turning out to be a bona-fide case of a terror cell…

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:31:40am

re: #32 Dave In Austin

Beth Fukumoto’s resignation letter from the GOP

I cannot read the letter. It requires downloading a software application that according to the EULA will change browser settings and such.

According to the Privacy Agreement, that allows the company that owns the software to collect personally-identifying information about you (agreeing to download the software is an agreement to collect that data).

I guess I won’t know who this woman is or what her reasons are for leaving the GOP. I just hope those reasons are good ones (or she’ll run right back as soon as someone assuages her feelings).

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:34:01am

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, anyone over age 50 should just not do it unless they are in exceptional shape. But you must be old enough to recall the blizzard of 1967: 27” of snow with six-foot drifts.

Much worse was the blizzard in 1978/79: four inches of sleet covered by four more of snow and then four more inches of sleet on top of that: it shut everything down for a week.

I recall the ice storm in Michigan in 1976: We went for three weeks without power in my town (fortunately there was a windmill that the town could get water from). We also had the only working telephone in town.

Our village was cut off from the rest of the state.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:38:29am

re: #38 Anymouse

She badmouthed the Yam and the Rep. Party is castigating her.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:40:44am

re: #40 Dave In Austin

Whoa, she’s full on switching sides. Good for her!

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wheat-dogg  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:46:08am

re: #33 Anymouse

Weird stuff at the restaurant we were at in Cheyenne:

They have a tank in the front with a few lobster in it (apparently you can get lobster from the North Platte River or something). I never paid much mind to the tank, but waiting around today for our table, I took a closer look at the lobster tank. (Lobster is on the menu for “market price”)

The tank is acutally a Skil-o-Crane. Three bucks and you can try your luck using a crane game to fish out a lobster. (If you get one, they’ll prepare it at no charge.)

I thought that was mighty bizarre even for Wyoming.

It took me a minute to realize you meant a fish tank, not a tank tank, so, I was sitting here wondering how many lobsters would fit inside an M1A.

It’s been a long day.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 23, 2017 • 1:57:28am

re: #40 Dave In Austin

She badmouthed the Yam and the Rep. Party is castigating her.

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Here’s the NPR report about what happened after she joined the women’s march against Il Trumpino.

npr.org

As an aside, she represents my cousin’s district, as they live in the same town.

I’m glad she came to her senses. I don’t know about Hawaii politics, but if the good old boys are Democrats there, it doesn’t mean all Dems are like them. I’m surprised she didn’t realize that at the time, but hey, she was 25 or so at the time. She sounds like she’ll be a great addition to the Democrats, now that she’s more aware of the political reality.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:05:26am

Downstairs I saw a tweet by Nick Denton getting out of bankruptcy, and so I checked on the Rage Furby attempt to extract blood from a turnip. It’s still in litigation. Apparently, the judge asked Chuck’s lawyer if they were willing to go into mediation to resolve the claims. True to form, Chuck through his lawyer said no.

In fact, they are insisting on a jury trial. See document 745 at the link below.

More exciting legal stuff here: cases.primeclerk.com

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:09:03am

Art of the deal…

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:11:46am

re: #44 wheat-dogg

Downstairs I saw a tweet by Nick Denton getting out of bankruptcy, and so I checked on the Rage Furby attempt to extract blood from a turnip. It’s still in litigation. Apparently, the judge asked Chuck’s lawyer if they were willing to go into mediation to resolve the claims. True to form, Chuck through his lawyer said no.

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More exciting legal stuff here: cases.primeclerk.com

I was unaware that Chuck C. Johnson was having financial trouble. Is he having trouble figuring out how to get Wingnut Welfare?

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wheat-dogg  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:16:52am

re: #46 Anymouse

I was unaware that Chuck C. Johnson was having financial trouble. Is he having trouble figuring out how to get Wingnut Welfare?

Honestly, I don’t know what his income is like, other than skimming money off the WeSearchr bounties. He’s hoping to get a big settlement out of Denton and Gawker, so he can live the life of Reilly — or something. Too bad for him it’s not going to happen. He’s claiming he was libeled, but Gawker did nothing to libel or malign him, and he’s arguing libel in a fcking bankruptcy court. I’m surprised the judge hasn’t tossed the suit and his lawyers out the door.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:52:22am

re: #7 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

it allows ins companies to offer half assed plans, it doesnt forbid them from offering good ones

It would allow men to opt out of maternity and neo-natal coverage, and women to opt out of men’s problems like prostate cancer.

The net result would be increases in insurance costs for everyone. (Presumably if you seek a plan that requires maternity coverage, it would cost more because you would be expected to use it.)

It is a libertarian wet dream of Wealthcare for Billionaires. (There is also a “fine” to be paid to insurance companies, not the government, if you do not get insurance.) It is insurance that literally covers nothing: the insurance market becomes a protection racket.

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teleskiguy  Mar 23, 2017 • 2:56:17am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:13:33am

re: #4 Arkansawyer

OT: Mass Effect: Andromeda is a different beast, but good none the less. Don’t expect it to be in the same vein as ME 1-3. Yes, it has it’s drawbacks, but better games do as well. Ever played Skyrim?

I’m having fun, despite some of the bugs/glitches/just not explained mechanics.

Maybe it’s just me, but it comes across as a mix of Mass Effect 1 and Dragon Age: Inquisition.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 3:29:14am

re: #49 teleskiguy

Well, it’s a good thing I ordered the prime rib off the menu rather than play the “win a lobster” claw machine then. /s

I like lobster (but it ridiculous costly on the Inland Coast). I’ll stick to local food (dead steer on plate).

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:06:32am

On crane games:

Imagine a Vegas slot machine that paid out in lobster. /s

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:28:32am

Cheeto Benito says he didn’t “make up” the story about Ted Cruz’s father in cahoots with the assassin of JFK, he “read it in a newspaper” (guess which one)

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:29:04am

On the Weld County (Colo.) Republican chair charged with voter impersonation fraud:
wonkette.com

It turns out how they discovered this was from his ex-wife (not wife). She divorced him after nine months (because he is apparently a douchecanoe).

She moved to South Carolina, and called the Weld County Clerk to find out how she could vote. The clerk informed her she’d already voted, from the address of the GOP guy’s home.

Steve Curtis (the Weld County GOP Chair) has a radio show where he expounds on Democratic voter fraud. (Projection, always.) He tried to get a gag order against the prosecutor from discussing the case (it failed). Can’t have the GOP voters learning about their representatives (propaganda is a helluva drug).

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:30:55am

re: #44 wheat-dogg

Where is he getting the scratch to pay for this folly?

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weave  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:31:12am

re: #5 BeachDem

Somebody help me out here—if they eliminate doctor visits, hospitalization and meds, what exactly will they cover?

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It lowers overall healthcare insurance premiums by allowing companies to offer competitively priced polices that give customers (aka voters) the comfort of thinking they are covered against a medical disaster, but control costs to the insurer by providing enough exceptions that allow them to avoid paying claims if they are actually ever used.

Bottom line, voters can now go back to saying they are getting cheap healthcare premiums again.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:35:22am

Trump’s definition of FAKE NEWS: anything that is unflattering or contradicts anything he has claimed.
REAL NEWS: Anything that is flattering or confirms a thing he has claimed.
Actual facts have no part in this.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:39:12am

The Sentient Cheeto is Always Right, because he is POTUS & you’re not.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:42:25am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:46:43am

re: #52 Anymouse

On crane games:

Imagine a Vegas slot machine that paid out in lobster. /s

It wasn’t a slot, it was a Slot Lobster!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:47:26am

As usual, Naked Capitalism plays its contrarian/cynical card on the Russia-Trump links….

Irrusinality: #$@&%*!

There are times when I near the point of total despair. This week’s Congressional hearings into alleged Russian interference in the American presidential election are such a moment.

Answering questions about Russia, FBI Director James Comey said the following:

He [Putin] hated Secretary Clinton so much that the flip side of that coin was that he had a clear preference for the person running against the person he hated so much.

They engaged in a multifaceted campaign to undermine our democracy.

They were unusually loud in their intervention. It’s almost as if they didn’t care that we knew, that they wanted us to see what they were doing.

Their number one mission is to undermine the credibility of our entire democracy enterprise of this nation.

The organization he heads - the FBI - is an internal policy agency. It isn’t its job to analyze Russia, Russian politics, or Russian politicians, nor does it have the expertise to do so. It doesn’t know what’s going on inside Vladimir Putin’s head; it doesn’t have an inside line to what Russians are thinking about their ‘mission’ and whether they want to undermine American democracy; it doesn’t have any particular knowledge about what Russia’s leaders think about Brexit.

Simply put, unless he has been spending the last few years learning Russian, speaking to Russians, interrogating Putin and his ministers, reading Putin’s speeches, analyzing what well-researched publications have to say on the subject, and the like (which of course he hasn’t), Comey isn’t qualified to make judgments of these sorts. And he certainly isn’t entitled to present them as definite facts.

These guys are clowns. They are beyond ignorant, because they are ignorant even of their own ignorance.

#$@&%*!

#$@&%*!

#$@&%*!

#$@&%*!

Nobody should take these hearings in the slightest bit seriously.

I think I somewhat disagree with this fellow’s assertion-after all, the FBI does work with both the CIA and the NSA< so it’s not like they’re working in a total vacuum. Second, this has just a whiff of asshole-ishness based on a simple mistake made by Comey during his testimony.

Normally Naked Capitalsim does a good job of culling its Links section. But their apparent current view of downplaying the seriousness of the potential Russian meddling in our election process should not be taken lightly.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:48:17am

re: #56 weave

It lowers overall healthcare insurance premiums by allowing companies to offer competitively priced polices that give customers (aka voters) the comfort of thinking they are covered against a medical disaster, but control costs to the insurer by providing enough exceptions that allow them to avoid paying claims if they are actually ever used.

Bottom line, voters can now go back to saying they are getting cheap healthcare premiums again.

And wait until they privatise the Veterans Administration (can’t have a socialised medical system that is the best medical system in the USA; it stands against our ideology).

Every military combat injury or disorder is a pre-existing condition. As such, aside from throwing away the specialised knowledge on treating military combat injuries and disorders, every disabled veteran will have a pre-existing condition.

Following that, the GOP intends to privatise Tricare/CHAMPUS as well, making it impossible for any disabled veteran (or their dependants) to obtain insurance.

They call that “supporting our veterans.”

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:55:02am

re: #62 Anymouse

In short, this is known as the GOP military veterans’ healthcare plan: “Come home with your shield, or on it.”

I have never, not once in my life, seen a Republican give a damn about veterans or military members other than as flag-waving props.

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:55:05am

re: #25 teleskiguy

The bassist/composer/vocalist of this song died seven years ago.

He split his time between being a rock star and being a garbage man in the NYC Parks Department. Even after TON got pretty big.

Pete Steele was a young legend in NYC, and was just a great guy to everyone. He loved his fans as much as they loved him.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:58:51am
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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 4:59:43am

Weld County GOP Chair, maybe.

“She wanted me to vote for Donald Trump. It’s not my fault she’s blaming me now that she has morning-after regrets. Women will cry ‘voter fraud’ so they can get even with their ex-husbands.”

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:02:01am

A novel defence of Ivanka Trump getting a security clearance:

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weave  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:02:41am

re: #58 The Vicious Babushka

The Sentient Cheeto is Always Right, because he is POTUS & you’re not.

[Embedded content]

I’m president and you’re not

Remember the good old days when RWNJs freaked out when Obama once said “I won.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:05:42am

re: #68 weave

Remember the good old days when RWNJs freaked out when Obama once said “I won.”

Actually Obama said “I won, twice” and wingnuts freaked out both times.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:08:08am

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

Actually Obama said “I won, twice” and wingnuts freaked out both times.

He became only the third president since WWII to get over 50% both elections and the Republicans treated him like no one wanted his agenda.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:12:27am

re: #4 Arkansawyer

Myself? I’m thinking about getting a PS4 just so I can play Horizon: Zero Dawn.

I’ve been watching a play through and the story is just blowing me away. Love the central character as well. Nice to see a female protagonist that isn’t overtly sexualized.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:13:03am

re: #70 HappyWarrior

He became only the third president since WWII to get over 50% both elections and the Republicans treated him like no one wanted his agenda.

No Republican since Eisenhower has ever considered any Democratic president legitimate (in other words, my whole life).

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:13:17am

re: #5 BeachDem

Somebody help me out here—if they eliminate doctor visits, hospitalization and meds, what exactly will they cover?

[Embedded content]

Insurance companies profits. The most profitable businesses take in money and deliver no products or services.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:16:05am

Z0MG THIS THREAD

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:17:06am

re: #72 Anymouse

No Republican since Eisenhower has ever considered any Democratic president legitimate (in other words, my whole life).

True. Clinton got the same shitty treatment. I’m merely pointing out that Obama had a clear mandate from the American people and the GOP obstructed him every way.

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jeffreyw  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:21:17am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:25:32am

re: #67 Anymouse

A novel defence of Ivanka Trump getting a security clearance:

Spicer: Trump denied reports Ivanka Trump was getting a security clearance because “at the time it was not true”

I knew that excuse would come up…

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:25:51am

AAAAAAND the Ragetweets resume

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Decatur Deb  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:27:01am

re: #78 The Vicious Babushka

AAAAAAND the Ragetweets resume

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He’s starting to look pitiable (almost). Not a good look for a President.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:27:48am

Since Devin Nunes (R-dumb) ran to the White House to tell the group being investigated what the investigators had on them so far, I would note two things:

a) What do the Russians have on Nunes (the GOP was hacked as well)
b) Rep. Nunes: Remember, the first guy to roll gets the best deal from Federal prosecutors.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:32:39am

Judge Gorsuch ruling on disabled children overturned unanimously by the Supreme Court, during his hearing;
thinkprogress.org

Concerning the IDEA Act, the Supreme Court ruled Gorsuch was wrong (more at Think Progress):

About 40 minutes after Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch began his second day of testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, all eight of the justices he hopes to join said a major disability decision Gorsuch wrote in 2008 was wrong.

thinkprogress.org

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wheat-dogg  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:36:53am

re: #55 Eric The Fruit Bat

Where is he getting the scratch to pay for this folly?

One of life’s great questions. He got free counsel from that dude in St. Louis for the failed suit in federal court, apparently. Not sure about this one, though IIRC this lawyer specializes in real estate law in CT. So he’s probably not asking large fees. Or maybe Rage Furby has some unknown RW benefactor.

His wife is gainfully employed, but I doubt she’d be willing to front the legal costs for a doomed libel suit. Of course, I could be wrong.

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:37:49am

Raul Labrador called the Capital Police on elderly pickets at his Idaho office - for the terrible crime of seeking redress from government by assembling and visiting his office.
wonkette.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:39:15am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:46:06am

re: #83 Anymouse

Raul Labrador called the Capital Police on elderly pickets at his Idaho office - for the terrible crime of seeking redress from government by assembling and visiting his office.
wonkette.com

He felt threatened, is Idaho a Stand Your Ground state?

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:46:07am

re: #79 Decatur Deb

He’s starting to look pitiable (almost). Not a good look for a President.

He’s acting like a kid caught cheating on a test.

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:48:31am
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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:48:42am

re: #79 Decatur Deb

He’s starting to look pitiable (almost). Not a good look for a President.

Not to me. That son of a bitch will have to fall far and hard before I’ll feel an iota of pity for him.

He’s got a lifetime of asshole behavior to atone for. And from all indications, he’s by no means capable of it.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:49:51am

Another Putin foe down.

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:51:34am

Nobody is above the law.
Trump believes he IS the law. - I’m president, you’re not. I can’t have conflicts because I’m president. I can’t leak classified info because anything I say in public is automatically declassified.

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:53:04am

re: #5 BeachDem

Somebody help me out here—if they eliminate doctor visits, hospitalization and meds, what exactly will they cover?

[Embedded content]

Tax cuts for the rich.

Thanks. I’ll be here all day. Tip your waiter.

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:53:12am

re: #89 wheat-dogg

Another Putin foe down.

[Embedded content]

Well, we know why Trump’s afraid to criticize him now.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:53:56am

Another terrorist has been arrested:

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:56:31am

Ho hum, another day, another dead Russian…

/

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wheat-dogg  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:58:11am

re: #92 darthstar

Well, we know why Trump’s afraid to criticize him now.

Seriously, I wonder if Manafort, Flynn and the others with Russian ties are in fear of their lives.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 5:58:52am

How pathetic is this?

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:02:04am

The GOP is moving full steam ahead with their #GOPDontCare about anything but tax cuts for the rich plan, which also guts Medicare and Medicaid. It also provides tax cuts for the rich while eliminating coverage for at least 24 million people (and likely far more than that). The latest GOP changes, in an attempt to get those GOP extremists who think this isn’t sufficiently heartless and craven, would eliminate essential health benefits as a requirement of coverage.

In other words, the GOP is eliminating actual health care from the health care bill they claim will cover Americans in their time of need.

The reality is mind-boggling. The GOP thinks that cutting health care helps people. They think that tax cuts for the rich is more important than prenatal care. They think it’s more important than preventative care.

They think it’s more important than seniors having health coverage. Or kids. Or working families whose employers can’t or wont give them coverage.

This plan is not only worse than the pre-ACA situation, but would be far worse, as Ryan’s wet dream of gutting Medicare/Medicaid is part and parcel of his plan.

Of course, the GOP thinks that if this plan gets through, they can double down on the tax cuts and burden shifting from the rich and corporations on to everyone else. Because this is their ultimate goal.

At a time when the tax burdens are actually lower on the rich in decades, the GOP claims that they need to cut those taxes even further to spur economic growth - the old voodoo economics bullshit that they’ve been peddling for generations now.

It hasn’t worked before. It still isn’t working. But it does result in massive debt getting racked up. Then the GOP turns around and demands even more cuts to govt spending to undermine functioning government and safety net programs.

This is a direct assault on the safety net and functioning government.

Of course, there’s the more direct assault on functioning government as a result of the Russia-Trump connections and Congressional Republicans have lost their fucking minds if they think that people aren’t watching them cover for traitorous acts by Trump and his cabal of cronies who were coordinating with Russia - a foreign power - to shift the election outcome by any number of means at their disposal, including using agitprop and timing news to maximum effect.

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:02:19am

re: #95 wheat-dogg

Seriously, I wonder if Manafort, Flynn and the others with Russian ties are in fear of their lives.

Don’t forget Nunes. The kompromat is strong with that one.

How else do you explain that public throat-slitting he performed on himself yesterday?

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:04:37am

#GOPDontCare that they hit women hardest with their plans to gut coverage. That’s the fucking point. They want to go after health coverage because tax cuts are far more important to them. They don’t care how many women suffer. Or kids.

This isn’t pro-life either.

It’s craven despotism and kleptocracy. Stealing from taxpayers who paid into Medicaid and Medicare so that they can give bigger tax cuts to the rich.

Covering maternity care means these women get better care and reduce complications - that can be costly down the line.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:10:00am

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

How pathetic is this?

Very.

Maybe they can start calling their show Trump and Friends.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:11:20am

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

Another terrorist has been arrested:

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Just another wayward youth. He won’t be called a terrorist if he’s not Muslim.

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:17:04am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:21:28am

re: #90 darthstar

Nobody is above the law.
Trump believes he IS the law. - I’m president, you’re not. I can’t have conflicts because I’m president. I can’t leak classified info because anything I say in public is automatically declassified.

He is to the effect that a GOP-led congress is not about to impeach him unless he really does something so egregiously awful that they can no longer rationalize or dance around it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:23:10am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is to the effect that a GOP-led congress is not about to impeach him unless he really does something so egregiously awful that they can no longer rationalize or dance around it.

I’m not sure such a thing even exists.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:25:29am

re: #104 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m not sure such a thing even exists.

It would have to be really, really bad. And your right, they can rationalize and dance around most anything as long as it keeps them in power. The latter is the key: it would have to be bad enough to threaten their immediate prospects.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:26:38am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It would have to be really, really bad. And your right, they can rationalize and dance around most anything as long as it keeps them in power. The latter is the key: it would have to be bad enough to threaten their immediate prospects.

He’d have to do something really awful, like give more people healthcare.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:28:01am

re: #106 Sir John Barron

He’d have to do something really awful, like give more people healthcare.

That is leading a lot of GOP congresscritters to face an existential dilemma…screw the poor (and maintain ideological purity) or lose their seats?

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Timothy Watson  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:30:45am

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

Israeli police arrest Israeli-US teenager on suspicion of making bomb threats against Jewish community centres in US

Oh God, I can already hear the yells of “false flag” and “Trump was right”.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:31:01am

re: #102 lawhawk

Circle of Derp at the Indy 500.

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:33:10am

So, it appears all those GOP reps that were saying they were no votes for the GOPDonTCare non-insurance insurance are falling in line nicely this morning. Bu tonight this regressive policy will get through the house and then the Senators can act like they care and eventually fold like a 40-year old limp dollar bill.

Fuckers!

Sorry, that is all I have…too pissed off to add any more than a large Fuck You.

Hey Trump supporters…when you are out of all your money and your home is gone and you are lying there dying I hope your last thought is I voted for the clown and not only did I do this to myself, I screwed over my family and a whole bunch of other people.

Grrrrr…

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wheat-dogg  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:34:02am

Play baru!

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:34:22am

A teenager with a US and Israeli passport was arrested in Israel in connection with the ongoing bomb threats to Jewish centers across the US.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:34:54am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is to the effect that a GOP-led congress is not about to impeach him unless he really does something so egregiously awful that they can no longer rationalize or dance around it.

Like what, shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue in broad daylight?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:35:35am

re: #112 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

A teenager with a US and Israeli passport was arrested in Israel in connection with the ongoing bomb threats to Jewish centers across the US.

“Sometimes it’s the reverse”

*spit*

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:38:47am

re: #58 The Vicious Babushka

The Sentient Cheeto is Always Right, because he is POTUS & you’re not.

[Embedded content]

Someone should point out to Trump that it means he has 300M bosses.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:40:11am

How can colluding with this guy be a crime?

Vladimir Putin sings “Blueberry Hill”

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:41:28am

re: #6 Dave In Austin

They don’t sleep in the same state, if one wishes to be accurate.

I know that separations are expensive, but why do we have to pay for it?

I suspect that just 60 days in the total cost for the Trump’s vacations and living expenses have already exceeded those for eight years of Obama vacations that the right was livid about. Funny they don’t complain about this.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:43:18am
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Belafon  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:46:28am

Caught a little bit of GMA. It was interesting watching Jonathon Karl get livid over Nunes’ actions yesterday, running off to the president. He described it as something a White House aide does, not the head of a committee of Congress.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:46:46am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

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Fuck it, I quit (at least for the day).

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Dr. Matt  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:49:51am
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darthstar  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:50:57am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:51:41am

re: #123 Dr. Matt

She’ll be welcomed in prison.

She only got charged with a misdemeanor, we’ll be lucky if she even gets jail time.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:52:12am

Some music from the ’80s: Chaka Khan

Chaka Khan - I Feel for You (1984)

And I bet you music fans can recognize the harmonica player and know who wrote the song.

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:53:52am

re: #125 Timothy Watson

She only got charged with a misdemeanor, we’ll be lucky if she even gets jail time.

She’ll have to repay the costs of the police work, which won’t be cheap.

I don’t want to make this out to mean much, but 100 years ago, that would have been enough for the whites in town to lynch or run every black out of town.

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darthstar  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:53:54am
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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:55:16am
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Timothy Watson  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:55:32am

re: #127 Belafon

She’ll have to repay the costs of the police work, which won’t be cheap.

I hate to make this out to mean much, but 100 years ago, that would have been enough for the whites in town to lynch or run every black out of town.

It’s never easy getting criminals to actually fulfill their restitution requirements.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:57:30am

re: #20 Single-handed sailor

I did get turned down. Found out that high school teachers blackballed me. So I learned rejection at the age of 16…

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:58:14am

re: #126 wheat-dogg

Some music from the ’80s: Chaka Khan

[Embedded content]

And I bet you music fans can recognize the harmonica player and know who wrote the song.

Stevie, Prince!

And Chaka was the only one who could have done that song justice. That woman’s got firepower to spare.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 23, 2017 • 6:59:57am

re: #61 Eric The Fruit Bat

This is some weapons grade bullshit. This guy thinks that the FBI lacks resources or personnel to investigate/ascertain Russian motives or that ascertaining Russian motives is beyond the FBI’s scope? Please. To say nothing of the fact at the person is implying that Comey’s conclusions are incorrect, which of course begs the question of how this person would know.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:00:20am

re: #129 lawhawk

Ok how many people did he rape?

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Joe Bacon  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:00:59am

re: #129 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Tell that to the coworker I escorted to the clinic because her boyfriend beat her when she told him she was pregnant.

We walked through the gauntlet of ignorant Catholics and Right wing Christians who called her a whore and called me Satan, Babykiller, Hitler. And I have such fond memories of the Big mouthed Pro-Life BSing Catholic Priest who spit in my face…and who was molesting kids on the side all the time…

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:02:20am

re: #126 wheat-dogg

All 3 are such amazing talents! I still love this song. I’m glad it made its way to Chaka and included all the great folks on her version.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:03:07am

re: #135 Joe Bacon

Tell that to the coworker I escorted to the clinic because her boyfriend beat her when she told him she was pregnant.

There are people who would see you as enabling a sinner to escape God’s punishment…

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Joe Bacon  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:03:38am

re: #120 Belafon

Caught a little bit of GMA. It was interesting watching Jonathon Karl get livid over Nunes’ actions yesterday, running off to the president. He described it as something a White House aide does, not the head of a committee of Congress.

The same Press Whore who endlessly recites GOP talking points. That liar can take his GOP asskising and shove it where the sun don’t shine!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:04:21am

re: #129 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Gee and they wonder why we call them sexist pigs.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:05:40am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are people who would see you as enabling a sinner to escape God’s punishment…

The bruises she had on her arms and face showed enough punishment from her “Gawd-fearing” thug boyfriend…

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:05:51am

re: #126 wheat-dogg

Some music from the ’80s: Chaka Khan

[Embedded content]

Video

And I bet you music fans can recognize the harmonica player and know who wrote the song.

The sample in the breakdown (the ‘say yeah’ bit), incidentally, is also vintage Stevie - from his very first hit, ‘Fingertips, Part 1.’ I’d forgotten about that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:05:52am

re: #135 Joe Bacon

Tell that to the coworker I escorted to the clinic because her boyfriend beat her when she told him she was pregnant.

We walked through the gauntlet of ignorant Catholics and Right wing Christians who called her a whore and called me Satan, Babykiller, Hitler. And I have such fond memories of the Big mouthed Pro-Life BSing Catholic Priest who spit in my face…and who was molesting kids on the side all the time…

That was very kind of you to do. Even in the days when I had questions about the morality of abortion, the people who did shit like that pissed me off. No one should have to get harassed and shouted at that way for getting a legal procedure.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:07:19am

re: #142 HappyWarrior

That was very kind of you to do. Even in the days when I had questions about the morality of abortion, the people who did shit like that pissed me off. No one should have to get harassed and shouted at that way for getting a legal procedure.

I could tolerate their meddling if it consisted of “please let us help you care for the child” instead of slut-shaming.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:07:29am

re: #136 JordanRules

All 3 are such amazing talents! I still love this song. I’m glad it made its way to Chaka and included all the great folks on her version.

I remember hearing this song on the radio back then, and loving it. Chaka Khan is great!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:07:53am

Donny Jr is picking a fight with London’s mayor apparently. It really is one thing for you or I to fall for clickbait headlines but it’s clear that Mayor Khan of London said that people in large cities need to be prepared for terrorist attacks rather than just dismissing them as a fact of life. And then I broke my own rule again and read the Yahoo comments with people who ironically enough did not read an article showing the stupidity of not reading beyond the headline.

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Lupin  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:08:41am

re: #110 ObserverArt

So, it appears all those GOP reps that were saying they were no votes for the GOPDonTCare non-insurance insurance are falling in line nicely this morning. Bu tonight this regressive policy will get through the house and then the Senators can act like they care and eventually fold like a 40-year old limp dollar bill.

Fuckers!

Sorry, that is all I have…too pissed off to add anymore than a large Fuck You.

Hey Trump supporters…when you are out of all your money and your home is gone and you are lying there dying I hope your last thought is I voted for the clown and not only did I do this to myself, I screwed over my family and a whole bunch of other people.

Grrrrr…

That’s the optimistic take. If history is a guide, they’re more likely to blame us, absolve Trump and elect Ivanka to purge us.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:09:41am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

Donny Jr is picking a fight with London’s mayor apparently. It really is one thing for you or I to fall for clickbait headlines but it’s clear that Mayor Khan of London said that people in large cities need to be prepared for terrorist attacks rather than just dismissing them as a fact of life. And then I broke my own rule again and read the Yahoo comments with people who ironically enough did not read an article showing the stupidity of not reading beyond the headline.

Remember that Trump likes his briefings to be no more than one page with nine bullet points…

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wheat-dogg  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:10:14am

re: #141 makeitstop

The sample in the breakdown (the ‘say yeah’ bit), incidentally, is also vintage Stevie - from his very first hit, ‘Fingertips, Part 1.’ I’d forgotten about that.

He wrote this song for Rufus even before “I Feel for You.”

Youtube Video

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:11:44am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember that Trump likes his briefings to be no more than one page with nine bullet points…

Yeah so Sonny Boy is just as stupid.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:12:33am

re: #146 Lupin

That’s the optimistic take. If history is a guide, they’re more likely to blame us, absolve Trump and elect Ivanka to purge us.

The Kim Davis types will be wiped out financially, but they will console themselves by saying, “We still got…Jesus!”

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Timothy Watson  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:12:37am
While their son got help at an Ohio treatment center in February, Julie and Victor Hudy lived in a nearby hotel, Elizabeth Hudy wrote. His condition deteriorated and last week, Joey Hudy’s doctors recommended he be transferred to a long-term care facility in Tennessee.

“You may not be aware of the significant cost of mental health care in the United States for such a diagnosis, and neither was I,” she wrote.

Ten days at the Ohio facility cost $19,500.

A month in Tennessee will cost more than $25,000.

“Joey will likely have to stay for a minimum of three months,” Elizabeth wrote. “After this time we still don’t know how long it will take for the medications to be effective or what will be the next steps.”

washingtonpost.com

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:13:16am
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wheat-dogg  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:14:12am

re: #144 wheat-dogg

Reload my 148. I pasted the wrong link.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:14:59am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The type of interference speaks to their real motivations.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:15:17am

re: #152 lawhawk

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They really are a party of heartless assholes.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:16:54am

BTW, today is Chaka Khan’s birthday.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:16:58am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

They really are a party of heartless assholes.

and the party of the highest bidder

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:18:21am

re: #157 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and the party of the highest bidder

That goes along with it.

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:21:01am

re: #129 lawhawk

Caroline O. @RVAwonk
OMFG -> Republican defends abortion bill by saying God can use rape and incest to “bring beauty from ashes” huffingtonpost.com
9:08 AM - 23 Mar 2017

I’m sure there may have been someone to do it, but I can’t say I have ever heard a woman say that there was a chance for beauty to come from a rape or incest.

But it is so damn easy for a man to let that ugliness flow from their yaps. Especially a good God-fearing Christian man.

Probably fine with GOP doing away with insurance too, so the woman can have that beauty all without coverage.

It’s evil.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:22:01am

re: #159 ObserverArt

I’m sure there may have been someone to do it, but I can’t say I have ever heard a woman say that there was a chance for beauty to come from a rape or incest.

It is about the notion of women being chattels and breeding units with no say of their own.

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:22:14am

re: #148 wheat-dogg

He wrote this song for Rufus even before “I Feel for You.”

Man, I can’t count how many nights I did that song in clubs all over the Eastern Seaboard. Our singer was pretty good, but nowhere near Chaka’s level. What a gift.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:23:15am

re: #161 makeitstop

Man, I can’t count how many nights I did that song in clubs all over the Eastern Seaboard. Our singer was pretty good, but nowhere near Chaka’s level. What a gift.

who got to do the croaky vocoder “tell me, tell me” response?

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:23:18am
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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:23:44am

rationalization, obfuscation and justification

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:24:18am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Margaret Atwood couldn’t be reached for comment. She’s too busy trying to figure out how her dystopian novel wasn’t sufficiently fictional or dystopian enough for the Trump/GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:25:08am

re: #164 Birth Control Works

rationalization, obfuscation and justification

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It must be a contest between Lord and Hannity to who can blow Trump the most on national television. Always with the pathetic excuses. No, Jeff, Trump talks out of his ass, you can do that in any language.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:25:41am

huh?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:27:02am

It just seems like it’s a challenge for the GOP. How can we be even worse? I’ve never liked the Republican Party at all. I come from a Democratic family but you know at least in the past, they were willing to support things like legalized abortion in the first trimester or in case of rape, incest, or the life of the mother, acknowledgment that more people voting was good, etc. Now they’ve become the party that tells you that pregnancy resulting from rape is a gift, that ti should be hard as fuck to vote, and that poisoning the environment is what Jesus wants.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:27:33am

re: #167 Dr. Matt

huh?

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Forget it, Matt, it’s Louise and she’s crazy.

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bratwurst  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:27:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:28:03am

re: #163 lawhawk

This is London in 1993 after an IRA truck bomb. We didn’t ban Irish people or Catholics, we understood it was just a small group of ****st

…most recent terrorist was born British, IRA guys were born Irish and did not want to be British

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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:28:34am

re: #129 lawhawk

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Yeah, a-huh.

(ggt sees red)

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:28:55am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I could tolerate their meddling if it consisted of “please let us help you care for the child” instead of slut-shaming.

That would take an actual heart and some empathy.

And belittling people is so much fun for them, they would have to miss out on all that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:29:02am

re: #170 bratwurst

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The assholes from the Freedumb Caucus strike again.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:29:49am

re: #173 ObserverArt

That would take an actual heart and some empathy.

And belittling people is so much fun for them, they would have to miss out on all that.

Exactly. They don’t care about the child. If they did, they would be the strongest champions of helping poor and unwed mothers but nope, they engage in slut shaming as you say.

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CongoJack  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:30:54am

re: #167 Dr. Matt

re: #169 Timothy Watson

Quick Google of the call number - it is a Russian plane and looks to be used for the Federal government of Russia (as I understand the info).

If anyone has more time than I - flight radar info

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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:31:00am

re: #175 HappyWarrior

Exactly. They don’t care about the child. If they did, they would be the strongest champions of helping poor and unwed mothers but nope, they engage in slut shaming as you say.

It’s all about their place in the line to heaven.

not the child’s.

“Heaven and Hell are words we use when we are not here”

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wheat-dogg  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:31:19am

re: #167 Dr. Matt

I verified that RA-64523 is nowhere near Connecticut.

flightaware.com

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fern01  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:33:53am

re: #142 HappyWarrior

That was very kind of you to do. Even in the days when I had questions about the morality of abortion, the people who did shit like that pissed me off. No one should have to get harassed and shouted at that way for getting a legal procedure.

Slight rant coming. I apologize in advance (for the rant, not the content).
I have NEVER had questions about the morality of abortion. Such moral issues are created by men to give them power over women. Abortion is a relatively simple procedure and there is no reason, moral or medical why it should be the never ending discussion point of male politicians, religious nutcakes and similar.

The world is massively overpopulated and if a woman, for whatever reason, does not want to have a child, she should not be forced to do so. This never ending debate has led to forcing women to listen to B.S., be told lies, have unnecessary medical procedures and be treated in a hateful disgusting fashion by those who stand and scream outside of clinics set up to provide love and help.

I know a number of women who have had abortions and NONE have ever regretted same. Most have gone on to become loving mothers at a different stage of their lives. They would actually like to be able to discuss their positive views on abortion using their own experiences, but too often they are then attacked for those views and/or derided for what they have done, so most discussions stay in the “general” sphere of pro choice.

No-one should be forced to carry a babe for someone else. Even if every last anti abortion protester offered to raise all those children, this should not detract from a woman’s right to choose. There is nothing wrong or immoral in terminating a pregnancy. Speaking of it in terms of morality is wrong - saying there are situations were it is valid (saving the life of the mother) detracts from the fact that is is always valid, if that is what is wanted.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:34:05am

re: #176 CongoJack

Quick Google of the call number - it is a Russian plane and looks to be used for the Federal government of Russia (as I understand the info).

If anyone has more time than I - flight radar info

It never arrived at BDL according to: flightaware.com

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wheat-dogg  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:34:33am

Well, I did my civic duty. Time for bed. Hasta la ACA, amigos!

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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:35:06am

Brat Puppy getting some winter exercize.

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:35:26am

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

who got to do the croaky vocoder “tell me, tell me” response?

Keyboard player. He used a talk box for it, though - we were on a club band budget. :)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:36:03am

re: #179 fern01

Slight rant coming. I apologize in advance (for the rant, not the content).
I have NEVER had questions about the morality of abortion. Such moral issues are created by men to give them power over women. Abortion is a relatively simple procedure and there is no reason, moral or medical why it should be the never ending discussion point of male politicians, religious nutcakes and similar.

The world is massively overpopulated and if a woman, for whatever reason, does not want to have a child, she should not be forced to do so. This never ending debate has led to forcing women to listen to B.S., be told lies, have unnecessary medical procedures and be treated in a hateful disgusting fashion by those who stand and scream outside of clinics set up to provide love and help.

I know a number of women who have had abortions and NONE have ever regretted same. Most have gone on to become loving mothers at a different stage of their lives. They would actually like to be able to discuss their positive views on abortion using their own experiences, but too often they are then attacked for those views and/or derided for what they have done, so most discussions stay in the “general” sphere of pro choice.

No-one should be forced to carry a babe for someone else. Even if every last anti abortion protester offered to raise all those children, this should not detract from a woman’s right to choose. There is nothing wrong or immoral in terminating a pregnancy. Speaking of it in terms of morality is wrong - saying there are situations were it is valid (saving the life of the mother) detracts from the fact that is is always valid, if that is what is wanted.

I agree 100% with you. That’s why I am now completely pro-choice.

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:36:22am

re: #167 Dr. Matt

According to Flightaware, that tail number was last spotted at Moscow’s airport. That’s as of 6 days ago.

But forget it, this is Mensch we’re talking about…

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Mike Lamb  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:38:34am

re: #174 HappyWarrior

The assholes from the Freedumb Caucus strike again.

Fucking economic illiterates.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:39:34am

Here’s the biggest thing I realized though about abortion and the right to choose. I am a man. That’s not my body. It’s not my place to tell a woman especially a stranger what she should do with her body any more than it is for strangers to do the same for me and ultimately it is HER choice.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:39:38am

Broken clock moment

@BraddJaffy
Fmr. GOP Rep. Joe Walsh on health care: “I don’t think Donald Trump really knows what’s in this bill. He just wants a victor

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:39:58am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

It just seems like it’s a challenge for the GOP. How can we be even worse? I’ve never liked the Republican Party at all. I come from a Democratic family but you know at least in the past, they were willing to support things like legalized abortion in the first trimester or in case of rape, incest, or the life of the mother, acknowledgment that more people voting was good, etc. Now they’ve become the party that tells you that pregnancy resulting from rape is a gift, that ti should be hard as fuck to vote, and that poisoning the environment is what Jesus wants.

I keep it simple anymore.

The Republican’s are evil. Period.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:41:00am

re: #182 Birth Control Works

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Brat Puppy getting some winter exercize.

Did Feral Girl also go for a swim?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:41:24am

re: #189 ObserverArt

I keep it simple anymore.

The Republican’s are evil. Period.

They just get worse and worse. I remember my Dad telling me that his Dad was disturbed by the rise of Reagan. Can’t imagine what he’d be saying about Trump.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:43:42am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He felt threatened, is Idaho a Stand Your Ground state?

Nope. But is an open carry/permit-less concealed carry State.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:44:20am

Dr. Phil Exposes Elite Government Pedophile Ring On Mainstream TV

She says she doesn’t even know her actual age, as she has been a sex slave her entire life, being trafficked around the globe to be molested and raped by the societal elites - including high ranking law enforcement official, major sports franchise owners and even high level U.S. politicians.

She describes having birthed 3 children while in captivity, all of which have been taken from her by her owner/trafficker, and are believed by Kendall to now be child sex slaves themselves.

“I was allowed to get pregnant, because men paid for that,” Kendall said.

nothing on snopes

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Dr. Matt  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:44:29am

The Dems finally grew some balls?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:45:07am

re: #194 Dr. Matt

The Dems finally grew some balls?

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Awesome. There needs to be payback for Garland.

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fern01  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:45:38am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

I agree 100% with you. That’s why I am now completely pro-choice.

Thanks - I’ve lived through the times when women passed notes around with the address of “doctors who do” which was the better alternative than the “do it yourself” option - both should NEVER have been needed. For too many women we are heading in that direction.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:46:52am

re: #193 Birth Control Works

Dr. Phil Exposes Elite Government Pedophile Ring On Mainstream TV

nothing on snopes


Dr. Phil - “The shocking story of one woman’s life in sex trafficking”

Kendall says as she grew older, she would often escort these rich and prominent clients to black tie affairs and high profile sporting events.

From doctors and politicians to even law enforcement, Kendall says she was taught how to act and dress in order to never raise suspicion.

If the above is true, there must be photographic proof of her at such high profile events.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:47:06am

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:47:42am

re: #196 fern01

Thanks - I’ve lived through the times when women passed notes around with the address of “doctors who do” which was the better alternative than the “do it yourself” option - both should NEVER have been needed. For too many women we are heading in that direction.

It needs to be legal and thus safe and less stigmatized as possible.

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:48:30am

re: #195 HappyWarrior

Awesome. There needs to be payback for Garland.

Forget payback for Garland. This is about making sure that Trump, a compromised president whose admin is under FBI investigations for coordinating activities with the Russians and undermining US national security, doesn’t get to make a lasting impression on the Court.

In any other era, I’d have no problem with Gorsuch. He’s qualified for the position, even if I disagree with his positions, but the GOP destroyed comity by blocking Garland and Trump’s thoroughly compromised. There’s no reason anyone should take up any of his judicial picks until such time that his administration is no longer under investigation.

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JordanRules  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:48:37am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:49:24am

re: #200 lawhawk

Forget payback for Garland. This is about making sure that Trump, a compromised president whose admin is under FBI investigations for coordinating activities with the Russians and undermining US national security, doesn’t get to make a lasting impression on the Court.

In any other era, I’d have no problem with Gorsuch. He’s qualified for the position, even if I disagree with his positions, but the GOP destroyed comity by blocking Garland and Trump’s thoroughly compromised. There’s no reason anyone should take up any of his judicial picks until such time that his administration is no longer under investigation.

That too.But yeah in normal circumstances, I’d agree with that even though I have a lot of problems with Gorsuch’s views.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:50:24am

re: #190 Timothy Watson

Did Feral Girl also go for a swim?

Yes, but she really doesn’t like it. She prefers Lure Coursing.

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:52:16am

re: #194 Dr. Matt

The Dems finally grew some balls?

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I think it was the plan all along. Those who were mad that they weren’t filibustering during the hearings (if that’s even possible, I’m not sure) were being premature.

Now it’s on Yertle to go nuclear if the nomination is that important - and I think he will, this White House needs a large-scale victory. And Congress won’t start impeachment proceedings before they get one. :)

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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:53:20am
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Mike Lamb  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:55:02am

re: #194 Dr. Matt

Good move, but be prepared for the media goldfish to swallow the GOP’s “This is unprecedented ” line whole hog.

To which the response should be: “What’s unprecedented is having the Trump administration under multiple federal investigations for colluding with Russia. We can’t possibly confirm someone to such an important position under such a dark cloud of suspicion.”

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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:56:21am

re: #205 Birth Control Works

MAYER: Among the theories that Robinson has propounded and that Bob Mercer has accepted is that climate change is not happening. It’s not for real, and if it is happening, it’s going to be good for the planet. That’s one of his theories, and the other theory that I found particularly worrisome was they believe that nuclear war is really not such a big deal. It’s survivable, and - they think.

And they’ve actually argued that outside of the immediate blast zone in Japan during World War II - outside of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - that the radiation was actually good for the Japanese. So they see a kind of a silver lining in nuclear war and nuclear accidents. And he co-authored a book in 1986 that I took a look at that describes ways that Americans can survive nuclear war by basically digging fallout shelters all across the country. And he believes that radiation is potentially good for people’s health.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:56:37am

re: #206 Mike Lamb

Good move, but be prepared for the media goldfish to swallow the GOP’s “This is unprecedented ” line whole hog.

To which the response should be: “What’s unprecedented is having the Trump administration under multiple federal investigations for colluding with Russia. We can’t possibly confirm someone to such an important position under such a dark cloud of suspicion.”

Yep.

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Franklin  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:58:27am

There’s this scene in The Big Short when Jamie and Charlie go up into Lehman Brothers after the shit hits the fan. Charlie says it isn’t what he expected and Jamie asks him what he’d thought he’d find and Charlie just says ‘grown ups.’

That’s the line that keeps running through my head when I look at the current administration and it’s acolytes in Congress.

Where are the fucking grown ups?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 7:59:12am

re: #209 Franklin

There’s this scene in The Big Short when Jamie and Charlie go up into Lehman Brothers after the shit hits the fan. Charlie says it isn’t what he expected and Jamie asks him what he’d thought he’d find and Charlie just says ‘grown ups.’

That’s the line that keeps running through my head when I look at the current administration and it’s acolytes in Congress.

Where are the fucking grown ups?

They left the WH on January 20.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:04:33am

:(

Good morning.

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:05:47am

re: #194 Dr. Matt

The Dems finally grew some balls?

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I think they planned to do this all along. People were freaking out thinking they could filibuster the hearings or something.

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Lupin  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:05:50am

I’m unable to rate the reasons to filibuster Gorsuch:

1) payback for Garland
2) ideologically unsound
3) nominated by compromised President

but all three are equally valid and only one would amply justify the filibuster.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:06:02am

The cost of an MRI can vary by thousands of dollars depending on where you go
Link

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Interesting Times  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:08:59am

re: #197 Dr. Matt

Dr. Phil - “The shocking story of one woman’s life in sex trafficking”

If the above is true, there must be photographic proof of her at such high profile events.

She was probably disguised, either back then, now, or both.

Given how disgustingly sociopathic the billionaire club is proving to be, however, I wouldn’t be in the least bit surprised if everything she says is true.

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ObserverArt  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:09:13am

re: #195 HappyWarrior

Awesome. There needs to be payback for Garland.

I think they should do it, but I fear our media will turn it into some kind of Democrats are evil and playing politics kind of thing. Why do I feel that way? The last eight plus years. Surely the wingnut conservative media will jump right on it. Mitch McConnel will call it out as obstruction, blah the fuckity blah.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:09:25am

I posted this TED talk because I thought it was so kewl. If you haven’t seen it before find some time to learn how cool trees are.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:09:44am

re: #213 Lupin

I’m unable to rate the reasons to filibuster Gorsuch:

1) payback for Garland
2) ideologically unsound
3) nominated by compromised President

but all three are equally valid and only one would amply justify the filibuster.

Russia/Garland is the pithiest.

Ideology won’t make a dent. This is SCALIA’s seat. Not a “generic” open seat. It’s been predetermined that nominating an ideological soul mate is required…that it would be unfair to upset the balance on the Court.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:09:55am

re: #215 Interesting Times

She was probably disguised, either back then, now, or both.

Given how disgustingly sociopathic the billionaire club is proving to be, however, I wouldn’t be in the least bit surprised if everything she says is true.

The website and the article seem hinky to me.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:10:53am

re: #205 Birth Control Works

Inside The Wealthy Family That Has Been Funding Steve Bannon’s Plan For Years

NPR

I Paged this —worth the longer read.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:11:08am

re: #218 Mike Lamb

Russia/Garland is the pithiest.

Ideology won’t make a dent. This is SCALIA’s seat. Not a “generic” open seat. It’s been predetermined that nominating an ideological soul mate is required…that it would be unfair to upset the balance on the Court.

Which is bullshit anyhow since Clarence Thomas replaced Thurgood Marshall and those two couldn’t be anymore different in judicial ideology.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:11:23am

re: #216 ObserverArt

I think they should do it, but I fear our media will turn it into some kind of Democrats are evil and playing politics kind of thing. Why do I feel that way? The last eight plus years. Surely the wingnut conservative media will jump right on it. Mitch McConnel will call it out as obstruction, blah the fuckity blah.

True that.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:12:08am

This is what it looks like when a fake president is completely and radically unstable:

After dodging a question about his wiretapping claims, Trump rambled on about the “mess” he inherited from former President Obama.

“I inherited a mess, I inherited a mess in so many ways,” Trump said. “I inherited a mess in the Middle East, and a mess with North Korea, I inherited a mess with jobs, despite the statistics, you know, my statistics are even better, but they are not the real statistics because you have millions of people that can’t get a job, ok. And I inherited a mess on trade.”

“I mean we have many, you can go up and down the ladder,” he continued. “But that’s the story. Hey look, in the mean time, I guess, I can’t be doing so badly, because I’m president, and you’re not. You know.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:12:31am

re: #187 HappyWarrior

Here’s the biggest thing I realized though about abortion and the right to choose. I am a man. That’s not my body. It’s not my place to tell a woman especially a stranger what she should do with her body any more than it is for strangers to do the same for me and ultimately it is HER choice.

You do not have to be a woman to have an interest in reproductive freedom. If you are a male who is interested in having anything other than sex for purposes of procreation with your legally married opposite-sex spouse, then you have an interest in women’s rights.

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Interesting Times  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:12:31am

re: #219 Birth Control Works

The website and the article seem hinky to me.

The yournewswire website, judging by the other stuff they’re peddling, certainly seems like a conspiracy theory cesspool. But you could always go straight to the source: drphil.com (can’t watch the videos now, but see if any of the excerpts match the info in the articles)

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Interesting Times  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:14:14am

re: #216 ObserverArt

I think they should do it, but I fear our media will turn it into some kind of Democrats are evil and playing politics kind of thing.

Of course they will, because they’re cynical, disingenuous, gaslighting “both sides” bullshitters. The appropriate Dem response should be:

“Two words: Merrick Garland”

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I cannot.  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:14:24am

re: #225 Interesting Times

Yep, the Dr. Phil site DOES have that on the front page, along with an incredibly loud autoplay video.

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:15:14am

re: #214 Birth Control Works

The cost of an MRI can vary by thousands of dollars depending on where you go
Link

Yup. The costs vary widely, even in the same geographical area. That we know that there’s these differences is also a consequence of Obamacare trying to open up transparency on health care costs.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:16:00am

re: #224 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You do not have to be a woman to have an interest in reproductive freedom. If you are a man who is interested in having anything other than sex for purposes of procreation with your legally married opposite-sex spouse, then you have an interest in women’s rights.

Exactly. I am just saying that it’s not my place to tell a woman what she should do with her pregnancy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:17:27am

re: #201 JordanRules

The Republican Congressional Committee just sent out a fundraising email with the subject line “Confirmed: Obama spied on Trump”

Yes, because nuance and context are dead. Trump was right, ergo, the Obama-led Deep State exists, and its headquarters are located in the basement of a pedophile pizza parlor in Washington DC.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:17:42am

I’m old enough to remember when Republicans always bitched when Obama brought up the fact that he actually did inherit a mess.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:20:16am

re: #229 HappyWarrior

Exactly. I am just saying that it’s not my place to tell a woman what she should do with her pregnancy.

If it is your kid, you are entitled to an opinion, but otherwise, not at all.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:20:38am

Here comes the latest fake news

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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:22:04am

re: #227 I cannot.

Yep, the Dr. Phil site DOES have that on the front page, along with an incredibly loud autoplay video.

HOLY FUCK

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calochortus  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:23:08am

re: #205 Birth Control Works

Inside The Wealthy Family That Has Been Funding Steve Bannon’s Plan For Years

NPR

Yeah, my personal favorite is that Mercer believes people’s actual worth as human beings is directly tied to their income. Since he makes north of $100 million per year, he thinks his life is over 1000 times more valuable than someone who makes $100,000/year. No income? No value. On welfare? Negative value as a person.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:23:28am

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, because nuance and context are dead. Trump was right, ergo, the Obama-led Deep State exists, and its headquarters are located in the basement of a pedophile pizza parlor in Washington DC.

Under the Denver Airport —bring Oreos

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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:24:40am

re: #235 calochortus

Yeah, my personal favorite is that Mercer believes people’s actual worth as human beings is directly tied to their income. Since he makes north of $100 million per year, he thinks his life is over 1000 times more valuable than someone who makes $100,000/year. No income? No value. On welfare? Negative value as a person.

reminds me of this book —recommended by a Lizard some time back,

Should be required reading.

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Birth Control Works  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:25:55am

bbl

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calochortus  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:28:20am

re: #237 Birth Control Works

reminds me of this book —recommended by a Lizard some time back,

Should be required reading.

A good book, though some people who know more about finance than I do say it has some weaknesses, but the most interesting parts were about the debts that cannot be repaid-giving or taking of life, etc. and the fact that little debts bind us together.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:28:58am

re: #235 calochortus

Yeah, my personal favorite is that Mercer believes people’s actual worth as human beings is directly tied to their income. Since he makes north of $100 million per year, he thinks his life is over 1000 times more valuable than someone who makes $100,000/year. No income? No value. On welfare? Negative value as a person.

Flat out evil.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:35:50am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If it is your kid, you are entitled to an opinion, but otherwise, not at all.

Exactly.

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nines09  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:36:25am

Amazing picture. Add it up.

Manafort? Never heard of him.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:36:39am

re: #235 calochortus

Yeah, my personal favorite is that Mercer believes people’s actual worth as human beings is directly tied to their income. Since he makes north of $100 million per year, he thinks his life is over 1000 times more valuable than someone who makes $100,000/year. No income? No value. On welfare? Negative value as a person.

There’s just something so messed up about that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:37:24am

re: #242 nines09

Amazing picture. Add it up.

[Embedded content]

Manafort? Never heard of him.

Those guys are all around my Dad’s age and I couldn’t be more glad that my Dad is different from tehm.

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calochortus  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:38:48am

re: #240 Stanley Sea

Flat out evil.

From the brief descriptions I’ve heard, he might be somewhere on the spectrum, or have some sort of issue with social relationships/connections. While he is married and has 3 children, he is reclusive and can’t look people in the eye while talking to them, etc. He made his money writing programs related to stock trading and using them in his investment management company.

I don’t think he has a deep interest in people.

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nines09  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:39:19am

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Those guys are all around my Dad’s age and I couldn’t be more glad that my Dad is different from tehm.

I’m sad more men in that age group are just like them. Admire them. Vouch for them. Spread the filth for them. I could go on, but I think you get my drift.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:40:48am

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:40:53am

re: #245 calochortus

From the brief descriptions I’ve heard, he might be somewhere on the spectrum, or have some sort of issue with social relationships/connections. While he is married and has 3 children, he is reclusive and can’t look people in the eye while talking to them, etc. He made his money writing programs related to stock trading and using them in his investment management company.

I don’t think he has a deep interest in people.

Unfortunately a lot of people on the spectrum can be dicks too. Whereas my being on the spectrum I think has given me real empathy to understand the plight of the downtrodden, a lot of other people take being on the spectrum to another level. See, Furby, Rage.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:41:36am

re: #246 nines09

I’m sad more men in that age group are just like them. Admire them. Vouch for them. Spread the filth for them. I could go on, but I think you get my drift.

I know. My Dad had lunch with his childhood best friend the other day and the man who I practically consider another uncle is a big Trump fan.

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electrotek  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:44:56am

Police have named the attacker as Khalid Masood.

52 and born in Kent.

British Muslims will have to suffer yet again for the act of a nutbag, yet again.

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calochortus  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:44:59am

re: #248 HappyWarrior

Unfortunately a lot of people on the spectrum can be dicks too. Whereas my being on the spectrum I think has given me real empathy to understand the plight of the downtrodden, a lot of other people take being on the spectrum to another level. See, Furby, Rage.

All people can be dicks. All people have a capacity to do good. The “spectrum” is a varied and sort of diffuse thing. If you have trouble connecting with others on an emotional level or understanding that “they” and “we” are really the same, then it is easier to value individuals by a single metric.

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calochortus  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:46:20am

Time to get moving and do stuff.
BBL

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nines09  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:46:31am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

I know. My Dad had lunch with his childhood best friend the other day and the man who I practically consider another uncle is a big Trump fan.

I see people I knew from years ago and I don’t know them anymore. I have people all around me who go to service every Sunday and vote to screw others. I’m so fed up. They do not want to learn or know anything that doesn’t fit their view.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:47:19am

Yeah…. nothing suspicious going on….nothing at all…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:48:13am

re: #253 nines09

I see people I knew from years ago and I don’t know them anymore. I have people all around me who go to service every Sunday and vote to screw others. I’m so fed up. They do not want to learn or know anything that doesn’t fit their view.

That’s how I feel about one of my own friends. We grew up together and he’s become overnight a right wing parrot.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:49:59am

re: #251 calochortus

All people can be dicks. All people have a capacity to do good. The “spectrum” is a varied and sort of diffuse thing. If you have trouble connecting with others on an emotional level or understanding that “they” and “we” are really the same, then it is easier to value individuals by a single metric.

Yep.

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nines09  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:50:36am

re: #254 FormerDirtDart

Yeah…. nothing suspicious going on….nothing at all…

[Embedded content]

Perfectly normal this time of year. Bad outbreak of Russian flu. Putin is just misunderstood. And if you misunderstand him you might get the flu.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:50:50am

re: #254 FormerDirtDart

Yeah…. nothing suspicious going on….nothing at all…

[Embedded content]

This could start happening here if Trump and Bannon get their way.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:52:05am

In Putin’s Russia, flu cures you.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:52:27am

re: #250 electrotek

Police have named the attacker as Khalid Masood.

52 and born in Kent.

British Muslims will have to suffer yet again for the act of a nutbag, yet again.

To hell with baby Hitler…we need to go back in time and
BAN MOOSE-LAMB IMMIGRATION!!!

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nines09  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:53:06am

re: #258 Eclectic Cyborg

This could start happening here if Trump and Bannon get their way.

And since real journalism was double tapped and shoved into a car and driven off, it would all be a mystery. A great mystery. Mysterious. All unfounded. Baffling.

BBL

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:56:20am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:56:41am

re: #261 nines09

And since real journalism was double tapped and shoved into a car and driven off, it would all be a mystery. A great mystery. Mysterious. All unfounded. Baffling.

BBL

We have only Teen Vogue to save us now.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:57:35am

re: #262 A wild WITHAK appeared!

[Embedded content]

Hey Newt, fuck you.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:57:35am

re: #262 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Asshole has clearly never been to Canada.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:58:11am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:58:24am

re: #265 Eclectic Cyborg

Asshole has clearly never been to Canada.

Or honestly anywhere outside his lily white social circle.

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 8:59:40am

re: #266 FormerDirtDart

There’s that extreme vetting we all know and loathe.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:00:16am

re: #254 FormerDirtDart

Yeah…. nothing suspicious going on….nothing at all…

Everything is fi…..

//

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:00:54am

re: #266 FormerDirtDart

Oh so Manafort wasn’t vetted at all? Well that’s SO much better.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:01:34am

re: #270 Eclectic Cyborg

Extreme Vetting flowchart has an express lane for old white dudes

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:01:42am

re: #268 lawhawk

Beat me by about one minute :p

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:02:48am

re: #233 Dr. Matt

Here comes the latest fake news

This looks like totally credible news.

//

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:03:21am
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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:03:54am

Reminder:

Manafort was introduced to Donny Trump in the 1970s by none other than Roy Cohn. Manafort’s associate was… Roger Stone.

These fuckers have known each other for decades.

After helping Gerald Ford fend off an advance by Reagan in 1976, Manafort became one of the first hires to help the Reagan campaign in 1980. Then, with his man in office, he became one of the first to cash in on his connections to the new White House.

He started a lobbying business with Stone, Charlie Black (Reagan’s 1980 political director, who also launched the career of Jesse Helms), and Atwater (whose Willie Horton ad would help close the deal for George H.W. Bush in 1988). Aside from helping Republicans such as Arlen Specter and Phil Gramm get elected, the firm—which was called Black, Manafort, Stone & Atwater (later Black, Manafort, Stone & Kelly)—changed the way foreign influence worked in Washington. In 1984, when Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos needed lobbying assistance, Manafort took the contract. In 1986, when Angolan guerrilla leader Jonas Savimbi needed an introduction in Washington, Manafort was there to help. In 1998, when Nigerian dictator Sani Abacha wanted to convince Americans that he was a progressive democrat, Manafort’s firm was there for him, too. “I am not one to knock honest greed,” William Safire wrote at the time, “but never has rainmaking seen such moneymaking.”

Through many iterations of the firm and its roster of partners, what set Manafort and his colleagues apart was the hotline they had to the White House. “Manafort, at some point, became a very valuable asset for the State Department, whom he was working with,” Stone says. “If you look at all of our clients, they were all pro-Western, they were all pro-United States. They all had good relationships with Ronald Reagan and his administration.” Manafort continued to work on Republican presidential races, too, managing the 1988 convention for Bush. Stone remembers bringing Trump, who’d become one of the firm’s clients, into the convention’s production trailer to watch Manafort in action. Manafort had known Trump since the ’70s—they were said to have been introduced by the right-wing kingmaker Roy Cohn. Trump was now seeking help protecting his gambling business from the rise of Indian casinos. (Black, Manafort’s old partner, remembers Trump being slow to pay his bills. “The stories you hear about him screwing subcontractors and all are undoubtedly true, but I always held out till I got my money,” Black says with a laugh.) At the ‘88 convention, “Donald kind of just soaked it all in,” Stone remembers. “And he asked a few questions—‘What’s the purpose of this? What’s the purpose of that?’ Then he kind of walked away, and he said, ‘Very impressive.’ He was nodding his head. He got it.”

Stone says Manafort was like Trump in that they were limited-government Reaganites, not empire-building neoconservatives like Rove or Dick Cheney. But what motivated them both, more than ideology, exactly, was cash. “Paul is clearly driven by money, there’s no question about that,” says Stanton Anderson, one of Manafort’s oldest friends, who was also his lawyer for 35 years. “He needed to make a lot of money to sustain his lifestyle.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:04:29am

re: #274 FormerDirtDart

Abandon one border to build a wall on the other…

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:07:03am

re: #201 JordanRules

Everything is so stupid.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:09:21am

re: #223 Dr. Matt

This is what it looks like when a fake president is completely and radically unstable:

DT has lowered unemployment from like 40% all the way down to 5% in just two months.
/

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:10:51am
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:11:01am

None of it matters.
The House Republicans will do what they always do.
They’re gonna vote “Party First”

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:11:06am

re: #275 lawhawk

Oh and I buried the lede too (as if it’s possible with that Bloomberg piece).

It’s that Manafort never stopped working with the Trump campaign or admin after the election. He was constantly in contact with Trump and Pence’s inner circle.

A source close to Manafort says he’s in regular contact with the vice president-elect, as well as with Trump’s attorney general pick, Jeff Sessions, the Republican senator from Alabama and a Trump supporter and confidant. (Manafort and Sessions have known each other since the ’70s.) And Manafort is also close with Tom Barrack, the billionaire founder of Colony Capital, who has a spot at the top of Trump’s inaugural committee.

So, for anyone to claim - as Bullshit Spice has done - that Trump has limited contact with Manafort is pure unadulterated bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:12:15am

re: #281 lawhawk

Oh and I buried the lede too (as if it’s possible with that Bloomberg piece).

It’s that Manafort never stopped working with the Trump campaign or admin after the election. He was constantly in contact with Trump and Pence’s inner circle.

So, for anyone to claim - as Bullshit Spice has done - that Trump has limited contact with Manafort is pure unadulterated bullshit.

Really draining the swamp. This really is the good old boy network.

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:20:38am

Oh snap:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:21:45am

re: #283 lawhawk

POTUS: Obama wiretapped me!
FBI: Nope.
NSA: Nope.
DOJ: Nope.
Brits: Nope
POTUS: I feel partially vindicated!

it was just (co)incidental

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:23:07am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it was just (co)incidental

I never said Obama wiretapped only that he wiretapped me and the newspapers said that but he did so I’m vindicated I was right so shutup.

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EmmaAnne  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:23:19am

re: #280 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Geeze. I think Kellyanne Conway is the only person there who isn’t a rich white guy.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:24:43am
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(alpuz)  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:25:39am

re: #286 EmmaAnne

Geeze. I think Kellyanne Conway is the only person there who isn’t a rich white guy.

Not yet, but you never know what she’s playing for.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:26:45am

re: #287 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Which is only because the new legislation isn’t sucky enough for them.

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:28:16am

re: #287 FormerDirtDart

There’s nothing stopping the GOP from writing an even more insane bill to repeal Obamacare and screw at least 24 million Americans to claim that they repealed the law in the House.

The Senate might even go along with it.

That’s what having majorities in both chambers means.

These fuckers want to kill thousands of people every year all to claim that they repealed Obamacare and put an even more fucked up system in its place. A clean repeal of Obamacare - as bad as that would be - would not kick as many off coverage as the GOP plans would.

This plan is even more painful, mostly because it guts Medicare/Medicaid and is an assault on the safety net we’ve had in place for decades. The GOP wants to ultimately go after Social Security too - looting the treasury so the rich can get even richer. That’s what their #Trumpcare/#GOPDontCare plan does.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:29:32am

re: #280 FormerDirtDart

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:30:11am

re: #280 FormerDirtDart

Kellyanne is the only woman in that photo.

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:30:54am

Okay, this story angers me to no end.

100 Secret Service agents? 100??

A $12,000 contract for skis and ski clothing, paid for by the Secret Service, to a company who doesn’t even rent skis?

Those entitled fuckers are really taking advantage of their situation.

Get their old man, and them, and their entitled fucking brats the fuck outta here.

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BeachDem  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:30:55am

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Those guys are all around my Dad’s age and I couldn’t be more glad that my Dad is different from tehm.

Well, Atwater is dead—still can’t wrap my head around all the shit he pulled in such a short time—he had just turned 40 when he died.

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:31:09am
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:32:58am

re: #260 FormerDirtDart

To hell with baby Hitler…we need to go back in time and
BAN MOOSE-LAMB IMMIGRATION!!!

You just know Gorka is trying to build a time machine in his basement

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:34:46am

I’ve been wanting to ask a favor of you photoshoppers.

Can anyone put a pussy hat on my twitter avi?

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:35:37am

Just when you think things can’t get any weirder…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:36:16am

re: #296 FormerDirtDart

White House adviser uses attack by British-born man in London to justify Trump’s Muslim ban

Yes, because their ultimate goal is a retroactive Muslim ban…

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:39:16am

Fake news advertisement:

You don’t take the king. Doesn’t anybody play chess any more? The non-metaphorical, actual game?

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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:39:19am

re: #298 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Just when you think things can’t get any weirder…

Looks like the old gang is getting back together.

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:41:30am
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:42:25am
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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:42:43am

re: #298 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:45:14am

re: #297 Stanley Sea

I’ve been wanting to ask a favor of you photoshoppers.

Can anyone put a pussy hat on my twitter avi?

[Embedded content]

Easy peasy!

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Timothy Watson  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:47:11am

re: #304 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

I am old enough to remember when Bolton trashed the Bush administration for not responding forcefully enough to the invasion of Georgia:

Russia’s invasion across an internationally recognised border, its thrashing of the Georgian military, and its smug satisfaction in humbling one of its former fiefdoms represents only the visible damage.

As bad as the bloodying of Georgia is, the broader consequences are worse. The United States fiddled while Georgia burned, not even reaching the right rhetorical level in its public statements until three days after the Russian invasion began, and not, at least to date, matching its rhetoric with anything even approximating decisive action. This pattern is the very definition of a paper tiger. Sending Secretary of State Condeleezza Rice to Tbilisi is touching, but hardly reassuring; dispatching humanitarian assistance is nothing more than we would have done if Georgia had been hit by a natural rather than a man-made disaster.

The European Union took the lead in diplomacy, with results approaching Neville Chamberlain’s moment in the spotlight at Munich: a ceasefire that failed to mention Georgia’s territorial integrity, and that all but gave Russia permission to continue its military operations as a “peacekeeping” force anywhere in Georgia. More troubling, over the long term, was that the EU saw its task as being mediator - its favourite role in the world - between Georgia and Russia, rather than an advocate for the victim of aggression.

Even this dismal performance was enough to relegate Nato to an entirely backstage role, while Russian tanks and planes slammed into a “faraway country”, as Chamberlain once observed so thoughtfully. In New York, paralysed by the prospect of a Russian veto, the UN Security Council, that Temple of the High-Minded, was as useless as it was during the Cold War. In fairness to Russia, it at least still seems to understand how to exercise power in the Council, which some other Permanent Members often appear to have forgotten.

The West, collectively, failed in this crisis. Georgia wasted its dime making that famous 3am telephone call to the White House, the one Hillary Clinton referred to in a campaign ad questioning Barack Obama’s fitness for the Presidency. Moreover, the blood on the Bear’s claws did not go unobserved in other states that were once part of the Soviet Union. Russia demonstrated unambiguously that it could have marched directly to Tbilisi and installed a puppet government before any Western leader was able to turn away from the Olympic Games. It could, presumably, do the same to them.

telegraph.co.uk

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:47:35am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

Which is only because the new legislation isn’t sucky enough for them.

And that’s the thing. This bill may get killed only for one to actually pass that’s far worse.

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:49:06am
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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:49:57am

re: #307 Eclectic Cyborg

And that’s the thing. This bill may get killed only for one to actually pass that’s far worse.

The tax cuts for the rich aren’t big enough and the insurance portion of the act isn’t bad enough.

But they’ll get there. The GOP always does.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:52:28am

apparently the info that nunes walked over to his boss yesterday is still not divulged to the other members

my feeling is that it is highly incriminating stuff and the visit was about uh donald you are about to be hit with this

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Jay C  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:52:30am

re: #291 Stanley Sea

Welcome to 2017 and the 115th Congress!

Advances in history: finally moving on to a post-public-opinion democracy!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:53:35am

re: #311 Jay C

[Embedded content]

Welcome to 2017 and the 115th Congress!

Advances in history: finally moving on to a post-public-opinion democracy!

voters’ opinions only count every two years…

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:54:05am

re: #312 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

voters’ opinions only count every two years…

And Democrats only vote every four years.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:55:14am

so hrughmph said im chevy chase and you’re not?

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:55:27am

A French national was arrested after he attempted to drive into a shopping area at high speed with knives and other weapons in his car, officials said on Thursday.

French President Francois Hollande said the man detained in the Belgian city of Antwerp “was looking to kill or at the very least create a dramatic incident.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:55:52am
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Teukka  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:57:21am

re: #197 Dr. Matt


Dr. Phil - “The shocking story of one woman’s life in sex trafficking”

If the above is true, there must be photographic proof of her at such high profile events.

I smell an odor of male bovine feces. Like, Satanic Ritual Abuse, except for Satanic and Ritual…
I just hate people who make up stories like this, because it affects the credibility real victims of child sexual abuse, and it would not surprise me if cases like this have also affected the science in the field in bad ways.

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:58:50am

re: #313 lawhawk

And Democrats only vote every four years.

You’re being too optimistic. Even when they do drag themselves out to vote too many of them vote for the candidate who will guarantee a Republican victory.

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:59:26am

re: #262 A wild WITHAK appeared!

It’s funny how the only people who think this is a myth are the people who depend on it being one.

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2017 • 9:59:28am

re: #312 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I found out yesterday that Gary Larson misspelled your nic. Or something. He wrote ‘Wendall’, which even spellcheck doesn’t like.

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(alpuz)  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:00:41am

re: #297 Stanley Sea

Real quick and pretty sloppy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:00:55am

re: #320 wrenchwench

I found out yesterday that Gary Larson misspelled your nic. Or something. He wrote ‘Wendall’, which even spellcheck doesn’t like.

Oh dear, it is Wendall…still, there are many slaves to the Waffle Light!!!

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:01:07am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He felt threatened, is Idaho a Stand Your Ground state?

He’s in Washington, DC.

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(alpuz)  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:01:18am

re: #305 makeitstop

gah! so much better!

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:02:00am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Oh dear, it is Wendall…still, there are many slaves to the Waffle Light!!!

I use cast iron. Nothing light about it.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:02:11am

re: #305 makeitstop

Easy peasy!

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THANK YOU!!!! XXOO

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:04:09am

re: #324 (alpuz)

gah! so much better!

It’s what I do. Thanks! :)

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Anymouse  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:13:25am

re: #213 Lupin

I’m unable to rate the reasons to filibuster Gorsuch:

1) payback for Garland
2) ideologically unsound
3) nominated by compromised President

but all three are equally valid and only one would amply justify the filibuster.

“Lame duck president” in the last year of his presidency.
Voters should get to choose (and three million more chose the other candidate)

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jaunte  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:13:27am

re: #262 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Newt Gingrich: We must defeat “left-wing mythology that you can be multicultural and still be a single country.”

I was thinking as I drove to work this morning that one of the most pernicious fantasies the Right continues to push is that we can still live in homogeneous cultures like primitive cave men isolated from any outside influences.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:14:10am

I can’t help but LOL. I have ZERO sympathy for these people.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:14:39am
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:15:12am

16 counts of aggravated battery with a firearm, as well as the original prior counts for first-degree murder and official misconduct

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:15:40am

re: #307 Eclectic Cyborg

And that’s the thing. This bill may get killed only for one to actually pass that’s far worse.

One part of the Republicans won’t like it if it repeals everything. Another part won’t like it if doesn’t repeal everything.

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Interesting Times  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:15:40am

re: #330 Dr. Matt

I can’t help but LOL. I have ZERO sympathy for these people.

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Hey, maybe it was all an elaborate attempt on her part to get out of having to file for divorce /

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Stanley Sea  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:16:10am

re: #324 (alpuz)

gah! so much better!

Yeah, thanks but that was pretty SAD.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:17:34am

re: #329 jaunte

Newt Gingrich: We must defeat “left-wing mythology that you can be multicultural and still be a single country.”es.

“Multicultural” is another nearly meaningless buzzword. We cannot be a single country if we do not share certain values, and these include democracy and acceptance of personal freedoms.

These values have nothing to do with ethnicity, religion, birthplace or gender.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:18:15am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:18:46am

re: #313 lawhawk

And Democrats only vote every four years.

And even then we might cast a protest vote just so you can be sure how pure we are.

//

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Skip Intro  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:19:02am

re: #337 FormerDirtDart

Ok, VPN set to ON.

Fucking bastards.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:19:04am

re: #337 FormerDirtDart

Senate votes to overturn Obama administration privacy rules on internet service providers

And I thought that Obama just loved to wiretap everybody…

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:20:35am
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(alpuz)  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:20:35am

re: #337 FormerDirtDart

Oh, that’s gonna leave a mark. Fuckin’ Republican voting Libertarians. Seriously, who didn’t see this coming?

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makeitstop  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:21:42am

re: #333 Belafon

One part of the Republicans won’t like it if it repeals everything. Another part won’t like it if doesn’t repeal everything.

Either way, Trump gets handed a defeat when he needs a victory. I’ll take that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:21:48am

Trumporrhoids on social media are now pointing to the “Jewish Israeli youth” like HURR HURR TRUMP SAID SOMETIMES IT’S THE REVERSE AND IT WAS THE REVERSE!!!! HE CALLED IT AGAIN!!! SUCK ON THAT LIBTARDS!!!11!!!

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:21:53am

re: #336 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Multicultural” is another nearly meaningless buzzword. We cannot be a single country if we do not share certain values, and these include democracy and acceptance of personal freedoms.

These values have nothing to do with ethnicity, religion, birthplace or gender.

How would you describe New Mexico?

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:23:04am

re: #345 wrenchwench

How would you describe New Mexico?

Or Arizona, for that matter.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:23:05am

re: #330 Dr. Matt

I can’t help but LOL. I have ZERO sympathy for these people.

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These people only turn on Trump when something bad happens to them and the ones they love. I am glad she’s upset but I too have no sympathy for her. Did she not hear Trump’s rhetoric about immigrants at all?

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lawhawk  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:23:20am

re: #338 Sir John Barron

(B)Progressive purity ponies.

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Interesting Times  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:23:26am

Heh:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:23:27am

re: #345 wrenchwench

How would you describe New Mexico?

A place where people were speaking Spanish long before anybody spoke English, for starters…

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Teukka  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:24:18am

re: #341 FormerDirtDart

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Belafon  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:24:39am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

These people only turn on Trump when something bad happens to them and the ones they love. I am glad she’s upset but I too have no sympathy for her. Did she not hear Trump’s rhetoric about immigrants at all?

So many of them believed that many politicians make statements and never follow through because they choose not to, not because the opposition party blocks them. Now they all get to feel the full force of a party in power with a lunatic in charge.

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wrenchwench  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:24:43am

re: #350 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A place where people were speaking Spanish long before anybody spoke English, for starters…

There were many other languages preceding Spanish. And continuing today.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:24:56am

re: #333 Belafon

One part of the Republicans won’t like it if it repeals everything. Another part won’t like it if doesn’t repeal everything.

This is some crazy shit. Even the first iteration of this bill did exactly the opposite of everything Trump promised, and each new amendment only exacerbates it. Trump only supports it - apart from the tax cut - because of the ‘This Is Something’ rule*, but Mr. Fantastic Dealmaker keeps being dragged farther and farther from his stated positions.

This is, of course, unsurprising to anyone who’s figured out what his dealmaking has always consisted of - promise the mark EVERYTHING he wants, get the signature, then do the bare minimum you can get away with. Standard answer when accused of not fulfilling his part of the contract? Sue me.

Not clear how that works as a governing strategy.

* The Something Rule = “We have to pass something. This is something. Therefore, we must pass this.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:26:00am

re: #352 Belafon

So many of them believed that many politicians make statements and never follow through because they choose not to, not because the opposition party blocks them. Now they all get to feel the full force of a party in power with a lunatic in charge.

I feel awful for all the people who knew Trump was bad news but this lady voted for him fully aware of his bigotry on immigration.

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CleverToad  Mar 23, 2017 • 10:27:36am

re: #200 lawhawk

Forget payback for Garland. This is about making sure that Trump, a compromised president whose admin is under FBI investigations for coordinating activities with the Russians and undermining US national security, doesn’t get to make a lasting impression on the Court.

In any other era, I’d have no problem with Gorsuch. He’s qualified for the position, even if I disagree with his positions, but the GOP destroyed comity by blocking Garland and Trump’s thoroughly compromised. There’s no reason anyone should take up any of his judicial picks until such time that his administration is no longer under investigation.

In any other era I’d still have a problem with Gorsuch. He’s an arrogant little git with a missing empathy chip, and we’ll probably have to put up with this smarmy ass for three decades.

But yes, in this era, we cannot pretend to conduct business as usual when every day brings more evidence of how far from normal we are.


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