Donald Trump’s Horribly Inappropriate Speech to the Boy Scout Jamboree Violated the BSA’s Own Code of Conduct

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Donald Trump continues to plumb new depths in horrible behavior, with a nasty political speech to the Boy Scouts of America Jamboree. You can watch the whole thing above, but here are some tweets that will let you know what was happening if you can’t stand watching this disgusting person.

LGF contributor “Wheatdogg” points out that this was an egregious, outrageous violation of the BSA’s own Code of Conduct:

When I was involved as a Scout leader, I had the impression the BSA was apolitical, despite its conservative leanings. The national leadership needs to be read the riot act to allow Trump to politicize a Jamboree.

From the BSA Scouters Code of Conduct

5. I will respect and abide by the Rules and Regulations of the Boy Scouts
of America, BSA policies, and BSA-provided training, including but
not limited to, those relating to:
a. Unauthorized fundraising activities
b. Advocacy on social and political issues, including prohibited use of
the BSA uniform and brand
c. Bullying, hazing, harassment, and unlawful discrimination
of any kind

(PDF page iv)

From the Rules and Regulations:

Participation in Public Functions
Scouters must, when practicable, cooperate in
connection with civic or other public gatherings of
a nonpartisan and nonpolitical character in a way
that gives youth members an opportunity to
render service in harmony with their training
instead of merely taking part in parades in their
uniforms.

(PDF p. 5)

Policy Concerning Political Questions
The Boy Scouts of America must not, through its
governing body or through any of its officers,
chartered councils, Scouters, or members, involve
Scouting in political matters. However, this must
not be interpreted to prevent the teaching of ideals
of patriotism and good citizenship as required to
fulfill the Boy Scouts of America’s purpose.

(PDF p. 6) ibid.

If you’re on Twitter, please retweet this to let the BSA know you won’t accept this horrible display.

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395 comments

1
Ace Rothstein  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:07:45pm

Fucking asshole.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:09:52pm

Not at all upset at the kids, nor even the jamboree organizers if they can claim to have been blind-sided. But if this crap isn’t loudly disavowed, somebody needs to take the fall.

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nines09  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:11:03pm

If you had any doubt that the ENTIRE GOP and Trump are a disease, a malignancy, a tumor….Have no further doubt. None. JFC. At the edges of vanished civilizations, the ruins look back at the archeologists, and they wonder….they wonder…

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steve_davis  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:12:23pm

the boy scouts have always been a kind of american paramilitary organization. societally, we’ve never really wanted to train 14 year-olds to engage in small unit tactics with actual weapons, but much of what scouts do trains them to do that kind of stuff. so the fact that they get together at a rally and cheer the fuhrer isn’t really all that surprising.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:13:09pm

Wooo! I made the front page!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:13:41pm
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nines09  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:13:56pm

Trump to 13 year old boy…….”want to hear another one? My tent is right over…there..”

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:14:00pm

re: #4 steve_davis

the boy scouts have always been a kind of american paramilitary organization. societally, we’ve never really wanted to train 14 year-olds to engage in small unit tactics with actual weapons, but much of what scouts do trains them to do that kind of stuff. so the fact that they get together at a rally and cheer the fuhrer isn’t really all that surprising.

They’re kids—they get to be idiots. Until 14 I liked Eisenhower.

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BeachDem  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:14:20pm

To add insult to injury, guess who flew on the plane with him to WV?

Yep—Shelley Moore Capito—wonder if he wore her down.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:14:20pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:14:24pm

re: #3 nines09

If you had any doubt that the ENTIRE GOP and Trump are a disease, a malignancy, a tumor….Have no further doubt. None. JFC. At the edges of vanished civilizations, the ruins look back at the archeologists, and they wonder….they wonder…

tr*mp and the GOP are a cancer on the nation. Here we have a blatant attempt to corrupt the BSA into serving the RWNJ agenda.

Just for fun, imagine the RWNJ howls of outrage had President Obama tried to get boy scouts to lobby in favor of the ACA.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:15:38pm

I imagine that if the BSA does respond to this, it will be to shrug and say that Trump’s the president, that it would have been a political decision to deny him the opportunity to speak at the Jamboree.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:15:43pm

re: #7 nines09

Trump to 13 year old boy…….”want to hear another one? My tent is right over…there..”

“I know a guy who had a girlfriend your age….”

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:16:03pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:16:17pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

Trumperjugend

This is better in the original German, but we live in a debased age with far too many political naifs and idiots in the left and center who need things spelled out: Twitler Youth.

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nines09  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:16:27pm

re: #11 EPR-radar

I imagine nothing. I witness this shit. Daily.

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:17:14pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:17:18pm

165,000 kids in West Virginia rely on Medicaid. I wonder if Trump told them that.

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nines09  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:17:19pm

re: #13 Barefoot Grin

“Wanna drink some beer? I have some. Cold…I won’t tell…”

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nines09  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:18:20pm

re: #18 Ace Rothstein

165,000 kids in West Virginia rely on Medicaid. I wonder if Trump told them that.

“SLIT YOUR WRISTS SLIT YOUR WRISTS…Yeah…. now after me… OPEN A VEIN OPEN A VEIN…”

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EPR-radar  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:18:52pm

re: #16 nines09

I imagine nothing. I witness this shit. Daily.

Since I still have my hearing, I’m reasonably sure President Obama never tried any political stunts with the boy scouts.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:19:20pm

re: #7 nines09

Trump to 13 year old boy…….”want to hear another one? My tent is right over…there..”

Gladiator movies

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BeachDem  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:19:34pm
Trump also pressed Price to win the support of West Virginia Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R), who has expressed skepticism of the GOP plan due to its drastic cuts to Medicaid. A few hours earlier, Trump claimed Senate Republicans had “not done their job in ending the Obamacare nightmare.”

“He’d better get Senator Capito to vote for it,” the president said of Price.

‘We could really use some more loyalty, I will tell you that,” Trump told the crowd of Scouts.

huffingtonpost.com
Yeah, that’s totally appropriate.

What. An. Asshole.

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TedStriker  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:20:34pm

I’ve said my piece on this at the end of the last thread, so I’ll not restate it.

Besides, I can see now, in this new thread, I’m going to catch a lot of crap I don’t particularly want because I happen to be LGF’s friendly neighborhood Scouter because of the complete shitshow that was Trump’s appearance at the National Jamboree, so I’ll lay low on this thread.

Anyways, I have a Scout meeting to get to, coincidentally…on the flip side, folks.

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nines09  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:21:03pm

re: #21 EPR-radar

Since I still have my hearing, I’m reasonably sure President Obama never tried any political stunts with the boy scouts.

This is a very bad movie….

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EPR-radar  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:21:38pm

re: #20 nines09

“SLIT YOUR WRISTS SLIT YOUR WRISTS…Yeah…. now after me… OPEN A VEIN OPEN A VEIN…

trumpists watch the fascist nutjob scenes in The Wall and think it a primer on political science.

We’re probably only a few years away from “we’re gonna send you back to mother in a cardboard box” being the entirety of the Republican platform.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:21:48pm

re: #21 EPR-radar

Since I still have my hearing, I’m reasonably sure President Obama never tried any political stunts with the boy scouts.

As far as I can recall, every POTUS before Trump gave a standard “Scouting is great, you are great, God bless America” speech.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:22:22pm

Who am I kidding? This putz is incapable of thought.

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nines09  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:22:36pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:23:27pm

re: #27 wheat-dogg

As far as I can recall, every POTUS before Trump gave a standard “Scouting is great, you are great, God bless America” speech.

Exactly. This shit is not hard, except for a fascist idiot like the orange menace who corrupts everything he touches.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:23:40pm

re: #22 wheat-dogg

Gladiator movies

Turkish prisons.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:23:59pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

They’re kids—they get to be idiots. Until 14 I liked Eisenhower.

I’m 65, I still like Ike…

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:25:13pm

re: #19 nines09

“Wanna drink some beer? I have some. Cold…I won’t tell…”

I wrote a bit about this at the end of the last thread, but that was in play with our scoutmaster, too. (But I got in trouble for smoking pot once.)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:26:12pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m 65, I still like Ike…

I’ve long forgiven him. At 14 I couldn’t believe any American president would lie about a U2.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:27:53pm

re: #24 TedStriker

I’ve said my piece on this at the end of the last thread, so I’ll not restate it.

Besides, I can see now, in this new thread, I’m going to catch a lot of crap I don’t particularly want because I happen to be LGF’s friendly neighborhood Scouter because of the complete shitshow that was Trump’s appearance at the National Jamboree, so I’ll lay low on this thread.

Anyways, I have a Scout meeting to get to, coincidentally…on the flip side, folks.

And I expressed my respect for you and many others like you too at the end of the thread. In my family it was a mixed experience (as I related)—some very valuable, some potentially traumatic.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:28:25pm

re: #12 Targetpractice

I imagine that if the BSA does respond to this, it will be to shrug and say that Trump’s the president, that it would have been a political decision to deny him the opportunity to speak at the Jamboree.

Boycott them then. They’ve been hard on gay members so I’m not surprised that they’re cool with Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:30:13pm

The only way the BSA can be taught a lesson over this is to withhold support unless an apology is received from the national organisation. If they won’t give it, they are unredeemable.

From the previous thread:

re: #280 TedStriker

I see that, as LGF’s friendly neighborhood Scouter, I’m gonna take a lot of heat for Trump being an ass at the National Jamboree and (some of) those in attendance acting just as much like asses…and that’s OK.

Right now, as a lowly assistant Scoutmaster, I don’t see much I can really think to do right now, other than as DD said, which is to write letters directed up the chain.

Again, I’m so mortified right now.

I’m not bashing on you. You can protest, and if they don’t apologise, you can leave. That said,

re: #289 Anymouse 🌹

I’m glad the Boy Scouts threw me out when I was a teen for being an atheist after seeing this disgusting display.

An organisation built on bigotry can only maintain itself through hatred. Whereas the Girl Scouts are becoming more inclusive, the Boy Scouts are becoming more hateful.

I was devastated when the Boy Scouts threw me out. I’d already been banned from certain events because I did not have a father to attend with me. My mother pointed out that I would remember their treatment one day, because I would see them do it again.

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William Lewis  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:30:41pm

re: #4 steve_davis

the boy scouts have always been a kind of american paramilitary organization. societally, we’ve never really wanted to train 14 year-olds to engage in small unit tactics with actual weapons, but much of what scouts do trains them to do that kind of stuff. so the fact that they get together at a rally and cheer the fuhrer isn’t really all that surprising.

The whole purpose of scouting in it’s original format was to prepare scouts - recon forces - for the British Army. The BSA has been very similar since day one. Combine that with the modern extremely conservative religious attitudes, homophobia & misogyny? Nothing but a despicable organization. I am sorry for those who loved it but I am so glad my son was never defiled by membership in the BSA.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:31:13pm

re: #36 Patricia Kayden

Boycott them then. They’ve been hard on gay members so I’m not surprised that they’re cool with Trump.

I expect a high-sounding but essentially self-serving “condemnation” of an oversight failure.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:32:48pm

re: #27 wheat-dogg

As far as I can recall, every POTUS before Trump gave a standard “Scouting is great, you are great, God bless America” speech.

Trump is neither normal nor stable. This speech to the BSA is just another conformation that he has no business in the White House.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:33:07pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:34:33pm
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nines09  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:34:40pm

re: #33 Barefoot Grin

Frankly, I had plenty of “grown ups” who taught me plenty of things my parents couldn’t. Some good, some bad. I still remember the good ones, and still remember the creeps….This is not and never should be the place of the fucking president. And to denigrate the ACA? This maggot is nothing more than a fucked up asshole who is completely empty inside. If your inner you has you talk to kids like that, you are one fucked up asshole. In another life he’s be grabbing more than pussy…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:36:58pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

Worth every tweet.

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EPR-radar  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:37:12pm

re: #38 William Lewis

I have mixed feelings about the boy scouts organization. Much of what they do is good, but they are more political than they say they are, and those politics tilt RWNJ.

Vigilance by BSA national leadership is needed to prevent the BSA from becoming some kind of fuhrer-jugend.

Now would be an excellent time to demonstrate said vigilance.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:39:39pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:40:23pm

re: #45 EPR-radar

I have mixed feelings about the boy scouts organization. Much of what they do is good, but they are more political than they say they are, and those politics tilt RWNJ.

Vigilance by BSA national leadership is needed to prevent the BSA from becoming some kind of fuhrer-jugend.

Now would be an excellent time to demonstrate said vigilance.

They’ve been like this for a long, long time. Like the GOP, they operated in dog whistles and code. Their own inner RWNJ is coming out now.

My banning from the BSA for my (lack of) religious beliefs is precisely why when my son was old enough to enquire about joining himself, I was able to tell him that the BSA “doesn’t want our kind.” My son never joined.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:41:01pm

re: #36 Patricia Kayden

Boycott them then. They’ve been hard on gay members so I’m not surprised that they’re cool with Trump.

Trump himself isn’t anti-gay. They’re embedded in Hollywood (it’s fabulous!) and Hollywood is all Trump knows.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:41:27pm

The media are being REALLY slow about picking up this story tonight. Weirdly slow, like they’re deliberately staying away from it for some reason.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:42:14pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

The media are being REALLY slow about picking up this story tonight. Weirdly slow, like they’re deliberately staying away from it for some reason.

Liberal media, don’cha know.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:42:25pm

CNN gave the story a good bit of play, rather non-committally.

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EPR-radar  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:42:27pm

re: #39 Decatur Deb

I expect a high-sounding but essentially self-serving “comdemnation” of an oversight failure.

The only thing that would have worked would have been for tr*mp’s speech to be pre-vetted by the BSA, and for the BSA to cut his mike if/when he goes off script.

Applying those conditions to a sitting US president is unthinkable, but so is tr*mp in the White House.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:43:14pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:43:17pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

The media are being REALLY slow about picking up this story tonight. Weirdly slow, like they’re deliberately staying away from it for some reason.

Perhaps GOP talking points have not yet been dispensed on this subject.

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:43:19pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:43:22pm

I achieved Life rank in the Scouts and was kicked out because I declared myself an agnostic to my troop. My Scoutmaster asked me in front of everybody “Do you believe in God, do you believe in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?” I said “I don’t know.” “If you don’t answer in the affirmative, you don’t belong in the Scouts.” I won’t ever forget it. It was embarrassing. I was 13. I’m an atheist now.

So yeah, with all due respect to former Scouts here at LGF, fuck the Boy Scouts. And fuck Fuckface Von Clownstick.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:44:08pm

re: #52 EPR-radar

The only thing that would have worked would have been for tr*mp’s speech to be pre-vetted by the BSA, and for the BSA to cut his mike if/when he goes off script.

Applying those conditions to a sitting US president is unthinkable, but so is tr*mp in the White House.

True, but the answer is for senior scout leadership to disavow the exploitation, as boldly as they dare. They are betting on a lame horse.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:44:53pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

I achieved Life rank in the Scouts and was kicked out because I declared myself an agnostic to my troop. My Scoutmaster asked me in front of everybody “Do you believe in God, do you believe in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?” I said “I don’t know.” “If you don’t answer in the affirmative, you don’t belong in the Scouts.” I won’t ever forget it. It was embarrassing I was 13. I’m an atheist now.

So yeah, with all due respect to former Scouts here at LGF, fuck the Boy Scouts. And fuck Fuckface Von Clownstick.

Too late now, but kicking you out for religious reasons violates the Scout code of conduct, too. At least it does now.

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EPR-radar  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:45:42pm

re: #57 Decatur Deb

True, but the answer is for senior scout leadership to disavow the exploitation, as boldly as they dare. They are betting on a lame horse.

This calls for a profiles in courage moment. I’ll be surprised if we see one.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:46:34pm

re: #38 William Lewis

The whole purpose of scouting in it’s original format was to prepare scouts - recon forces - for the British Army. The BSA has been very similar since day one. Combine that with the modern extremely conservative religious attitudes, homophobia & misogyny? Nothing but a despicable organization. I am sorry for those who loved it but I am so glad my son was never defiled by membership in the BSA.

Keith Richards was a scout leader as a teenager and has said in his autobiography that it prepared him well for leading the Stones!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:46:53pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

I achieved Life rank in the Scouts and was kicked out because I declared myself an agnostic to my troop. My Scoutmaster asked me in front of everybody “Do you believe in God, do you believe in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?” I said “I don’t know.” “If you don’t answer in the affirmative, you don’t belong in the Scouts.” I won’t ever forget it. It was embarrassing I was 13. I’m an atheist now.

So yeah, with all due respect to former Scouts here at LGF, fuck the Boy Scouts. And fuck Fuckface Von Clownstick.

We were pretty disorganized. The few interested parents reached a DADT compromise on my agnosticism.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:47:13pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

I achieved Life rank in the Scouts and was kicked out because I declared myself an agnostic to my troop. My Scoutmaster asked me in front of everybody “Do you believe in God, do you believe in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?” I said “I don’t know.” “If you don’t answer in the affirmative, you don’t belong in the Scouts.” I won’t ever forget it. It was embarrassing I was 13. I’m an atheist now.

So yeah, with all due respect to former Scouts here at LGF, fuck the Boy Scouts. And fuck Fuckface Von Clownstick.

We didn’t have any religious extremists involved in my troop (203). I understood that the supernatural is imaginary by the time I was involved in Boy Scouts, and that wasn’t a problem.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:47:26pm

re: #58 wheat-dogg

Too late now, but kicking you out for religious reasons violates the Scout code of conduct, too. At least it does now.

Our troop meetings were held in a Baptist church. One of my Scoutmasters was an Evangelical preacher. I saw the writing on the wall when I was a Cub Scout, that I was going to be shunned one way or another down the road because I never went to church on Sunday when all the other Scouts around me did. I’m surprised I made it all the way to the Life rank before I was shunned, to be honest.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:47:35pm

re: #60 Barefoot Grin

Keith Richards was a scout leader as a teenager and has said in his autobiography that it prepared him well for leading the Stones!

Can he still start a fire by rubbing two basses together?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:48:13pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:49:07pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

Yup, pretty much the same for me, except I was second class when it happened to me.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:49:38pm

re: #55 Kragar

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Eggs in one basket?

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:49:46pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:51:18pm

This is going to hurt Scouting. Every adult leader needs to immediately do everything possible to denounce this behavior and distance themselves from it.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:51:29pm

I remember the prayers we did at Kiwanis Boy Scout Camp on Grand Mesa, before each meal. I just bowed my head down and, uh, pretended I guess. Every summer, four summers in a row. I felt so out of place whenever religion was brought into my Scouting experience.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:51:33pm

re: #64 Decatur Deb

Can he still start a fire by rubbing two basses together?

Bill Wyman was a stellar player for the Stones, but Keith played bass on some of my favorite tracks and lit them up!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:52:40pm

re: #58 wheat-dogg

Too late now, but kicking you out for religious reasons violates the Scout code of conduct, too. At least it does now.

Nope, the ban on atheists remains in effect today in BSA. It has been even fought in court and lost.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:53:37pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

I remember the prayers we did at Kiwanis Boy Scout Camp on Grand Mesa, before each meal. I just bowed my head down and, uh, pretended I guess. Every summer, four summers in a row. I felt so out of place whenever religion was brought into my Scouting experience.

Still have to stand respectfully through prayer on Habitat worksites. They’re a self-professed Christian ministry. In the end, it’s all about the house.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:55:36pm

In case you were wondering.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:56:48pm
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nines09  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:56:58pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

“Mom? I want to join the Cub Scouts”…Ok. Good luck. You know what to do. And I did. I went to the Methodist church to sign up. I was like 8 1/2 freaking years old. The church was across the street from us. In Philly. The troop was in the basement. My parents either by purpose or whatever always had me do the walk. You want it? Go. Get it. I was told at the age of 9 by the “adults” there that I was “not the type of “person” they needed.” They turned me down. Out. LEAVE. And I was not alone. My grade school buddy was rejected the next night. Imagine that. No parents, and you cowboy up and walk into that at 9 fucking years old and get shit on. Story of my young life…. Formative years…

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:58:21pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

Kiwanis Boy Scout Camp on Grand Mesa

Thing is I have *great memories* of this place. It’s where I learned to shoot a rifle. It’s where I slept outside in a teepee for a week, where I saw a bear for the first time. The epic games of capture the flag, all the things I learned about wilderness travel, the horseback rides into the backcountry for some fishing, I could go on.

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CleverToad  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:58:50pm

re: #24 TedStriker

Not directing heat at you — it must hurt terribly to watch this happen to an organization you belong to and support. As Deb and Observer said, just hope that your status as an active member can help you influence others close to you and up the chain.

So sad. So bloody infuriating.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:59:00pm

re: #76 nines09

“Mom? I want to join the Cub Scouts”…Ok. Good luck. You know what to do. And I did. I went to the Methodist church to sign up. I was like 8 1/2 freaking years old. The church was across the street from us. In Philly. The troop was in the basement. My parents either by purpose or whatever always had me do the walk. You want it? Go. Get it. I was told at the age of 9 by the “adults” there that I was “not the type of “person” they needed.” They turned me down. Out. LEAVE. And I was not alone. My grade school buddy was rejected the next night. Imagine that. No parents, and you cowboy up and walk into that at 9 fucking years old and get shit on. Story of my young life…. Formative years…

In the end it’s all about the bear.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 5:59:41pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:00:07pm

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:02:29pm

Boy Scouts Allow Transgender Scouts, Still Ban Atheists
patheos.com

All that said, it’s worth pointing out that the BSA still bans openly atheist scouts from joining the organization at any level. The Scouting Oath calls on boys “To do my duty to God and my country” while Scout Law honors “reverence.” If leaders find out you’re an atheist, they can kick you out (and they’ve done just that).

secular.org

(Story of a person who was a Boy Scout, spent two decades as a leader, then was told to sever all ties with the organisation because he could not be an effective role model as an atheist.)

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nines09  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:03:03pm

re: #79 Decatur Deb

Just assholes. Johnny was a threat…

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BlueGrl21  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:04:31pm

I’m married to a basketball coach and I don’t have time for the urban super mom life. My two boys each get to pick one activity, no more.

Both of them came home from school at one time or another wanting to do Scouts. I told them that would be it, there will only be one. The oldest cared more about theater, youngest, basketball. No Scouts.

I was relieved. I don’t think our boys would fit well in the organization for a lot of reasons. But my best friend, an agnostic to the core, was an Eagle Scout and feels scouting was very good for him as a kid.

So, I’m highly ambivalent and glad the boys chose other interests.

And fuck Donald Trump, of course.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:04:39pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:04:45pm

re: #83 nines09

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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:05:42pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

This is going to hurt Scouting. Every adult leader needs to immediately do everything possible to denounce this behavior and distance themselves from it.

It’ll wind up becoming a Junior NRA with a smaller, more hyperpartisan membership base with wealthy benefactors like the Koch brothers.

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Cheechako  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:05:47pm

I was also a Scout many years ago. Didn’t last very long. Every time we went on a camp-out, it rained. Miserable experience.

When my boys were growing up I got roped into being a Cub Master followed by being the Troop Scoutmaster. No-one else was willing to take the job. Plenty of “We’ll be here to help, but…”. The worst part was living in a college town with plenty of single moms going to college who wanted “a positive male influence on their young boys”. Of course they never had time to pitch in and help.

The part I dreaded most was the annual one week camping trip at the Council’s Scout Ranch.

One or two dads/moms would volunteer to go along but when the time came they always had other thing that were more important to do. I was terrified being the only adult (male) camping with a dozen or so young boys. The shower were gang showers so I never showered with the boys. I was scared shit-less some kid would make unfounded accusations of wrong doing. At night I had to keep my distance from where the boys camped.

After two seasons of this crap I quit scouting altogether.

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dangerman  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:06:49pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

I achieved Life rank in the Scouts and was kicked out because I declared myself an agnostic to my troop. My Scoutmaster asked me in front of everybody “Do you believe in God, do you believe in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?” I said “I don’t know.” “If you don’t answer in the affirmative, you don’t belong in the Scouts.” I won’t ever forget it. It was embarrassing. I was 13. I’m an atheist now.

So yeah, with all due respect to former Scouts here at LGF, fuck the Boy Scouts. And fuck Fuckface Von Clownstick.

not being funny here and have absolutely no experience with the scouts or any friends who were

what do they do with Jews?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:09:02pm

re: #89 dangerman

not being funny here and have absolutely no experience with the scouts or any friends who were

what do they do with Jews?

The Scouting Oath as its treated is you must have a belief in a god. Doesn’t matter which god (which is why there are scouting organisations around the world). But the god part is a must. Without that, you can be denied membership or kicked out if discovered.

Judaism is fine. Jews believe in a god. However, with the Hitler Youth rally Trump held this afternoon, if I was a Jewish (or Muslim) scout I’d be headed for the exits.

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nines09  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:11:20pm

Amy passed 6 years ago yesterday. She was my flawed diamond. She spoke to me. She was my vision at a young age. Soul. I wanted a girl like her when I was 13…maybe younger. Knew girls who looked like her. Almost hard. Cut you. The truth and the promise was in the shadows…in the shadows…

Amy Winehouse - You Know I’m No Good

Good night. Fuck Trump.re: #86 Decatur Deb

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:11:41pm

re: #88 Cheechako

…snip. Of course they never had time to pitch in and help.

…snip

That’s the part that got me out of Cubs. I did have adventures with Daughter1’s Girl Scouts in Korea. I was their radioman/helper (an oft-told tale). Most fun was at a Korean UN campground where the newbie girls thought the ceramic “bombsight” toilets were footbaths.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:12:01pm

re: #64 Decatur Deb

Can he still start a fire by rubbing two basses together?

Is there any other way?

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:12:21pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:12:42pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:13:44pm

re: #89 dangerman

My brother in law is scout master and his group meets in a Lutheran church. One of the local synagogues want my brother in law to start a scout group at their temple. There were not enough kids who wanted to join.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:13:45pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:14:09pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

RT’d every single one

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EPR-radar  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:15:04pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

What could possibly be more Republican than a terminally ill man dragging himself to the Senate to try to fuck over health care for the entire country?

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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:15:16pm

A double checked. It’s true.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:15:27pm

The President frequently speaks at various congressionally-chartered organisations, of which the BSA is only one of many.

A good troll from the Girl Scouts at this point might be to simply become “The Scouts” and let in the refuges from the Hitler Youth rally, regardless of gender or sex.

If the Gold Star Mothers put up with something like this I’ll turn in my pin and license plates.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:16:27pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

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Wow. So he’s hobbling back to take away healthcare from millions of his fellow Americans in support of a President who insulted his military service? Couldn’t be more disgusted with him.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:16:37pm

re: #95 gocart mozart

Damn…I thought as much—buried memory.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:17:07pm

re: #89 dangerman

Nearest Synagogue at that time was in Aspen, 65 miles distant. There are more Mormons than Jews around those parts.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:17:49pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

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Congrats, John, you’ve totally dashed all the good favor you’ve received for days to win the approval of pricks who were praying for your death.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:19:02pm

re: #105 Targetpractice

Congrats, John, you’ve totally dashed all the good favor you’ve received for days to win the approval of pricks who were praying for your death.

Unless he goes back and votes “No”.

Hey, I can dream.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:19:03pm

re: #105 Targetpractice

Congrats, John, you’ve totally dashed all the good favor you’ve received for days to win the approval of pricks who were praying for your death.

Not to mention the woman who is running against Jeff Flake in a primary and demanded on social media John McCain get out of the way and retire so the state governor could appoint her.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:22:52pm
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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:23:42pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

That means passage of this atrocity is a fait accompli. Turtle Fucker McConnell has finally triumphed.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:24:00pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:24:14pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:27:13pm

Curious if Trump’s campaign rally today violated BSA’s tax-exempt status.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:28:02pm

re: #17 Kragar

“And I got this one when I stiffed my 100th contractor, and this one for renting to whites only…”

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:28:08pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

What else could this be described as?
It’s horrifying.

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:28:53pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:29:58pm

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:30:14pm

The nominee to head the FBI, Christopher Wray, has been on Christie’s payroll since 2014, the first 11 months secretly, all the time being paid by N.J. taxpayers. — Rachel reporting on story broken by WNYC.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:30:21pm

Everyone in West Virginia needs to be calling Capito.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:31:01pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:32:01pm

re: #115 Kragar

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:32:26pm

Raising the next generation of deplorables. May we all find a way to do better so they don’t become what they saw today. Sigh.
Disgusting.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:32:46pm

“Forget the cat. How about Schrodinger’s dictator? Is he alive or a twitter-bot?”

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:33:24pm

Shot:

Chaser:

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Timothy Watson  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:34:22pm
As the New York Working Man’s Advocate declared in 1835, “The man who pretends that an ignorant and vicious people can long remain free, is a fool or a knave.”

(From What Hath God Wrought: The Transformation of America, 1815-1848)

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Timothy Watson  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:36:15pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

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Snippier headline than “Man two steps away from his deathbed to return to work to take healthcare from tens of millions of Americans.”

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nines09  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:37:37pm

I know you…I know that face…..I know that voice…..I hear you whisper….From the day I was born…..
I do….

Amy Winehouse I love you more than you’ll ever know LIVE (Inédit RARE)

Goodnight. A fresh hell awaits….

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Timothy Watson  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:37:52pm

You know, the Nazis banned the Boy Scouts in 1935 because they didn’t want any competition for the Hitler Youth.

Looks like they won’t have to go to that trouble here.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:38:46pm

re: #60 Barefoot Grin

Keith Richards was a scout leader as a teenager and has said in his autobiography that it prepared him well for leading the Stones!

But doesn’t the Boy Scout motto say something about “Don’t steal riffs from Ry Cooder?”

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:39:33pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:39:59pm

Maybe these words come to soon. It’s not THAT bad. Maybe so maybe not.
The words of a South Korean acquaintance come to mind. Paraphrased a bit. “We must not go to war. Whether conventional, limited nuclear or WW3 the consequences are the same, the destruction of my country”.

The same is true of America should we come to fight one another over these mounting authoritarian excesses. In our case a small or a prolonged civil war render the same result.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:41:02pm

re: #128 Jebediah, RBG

But doesn’t the Boy Scout motto say something about “Don’t steal riffs from Ry Cooder?”

No, it’s “Be Prepared to ‘Quote’ Licks from Your Idols.” [He said, charitably.]

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:41:03pm

re: #61 Decatur Deb

We were pretty disorganized. The few interested parents reached a DADT compromise on my agnosticism.

I guess it’s a lot different from troop to troop (or maybe region?) because I went up to Eagle Scout and I don’t recall ever having to affirm my religious beliefs.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:41:39pm

re: #129 JordanRules

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Yep, remember “children of the ObamAcorn”? Actually pretty clever for right wing derp.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:41:43pm

re: #131 Barefoot Grin

No, it’s “Be Prepared to ‘Quote’ Licks from Your Idols.” [He said, charitably.]

Works for me!

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sagehen  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:41:50pm

re: #128 Jebediah, RBG

But doesn’t the Boy Scout motto say something about “Don’t steal riffs from Ry Cooder?”

It’s not theft, it’s an homage!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:42:00pm

re: #132 Jebediah, RBG

I guess it’s a lot different from troop to troop (or maybe region?) because I went up to Eagle Scout and I don’t recall ever having to affirm my religious beliefs.

I didn’t either. We met at an elementary school and not a church.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:43:49pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:45:30pm

If the BSA doesn’t disavow this rancid horseshit then the BSA is a dangerous fascist organization that should be stripped of all federal funding.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:45:45pm

Now it’s the Trump Youth I suppose.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:46:46pm

re: #132 Jebediah, RBG

I guess it’s a lot different from troop to troop (or maybe region?) because I went up to Eagle Scout and I don’t recall ever having to affirm my religious beliefs.

While local leaders may interpret the by-laws of the Boy Scouts as they choose, the by-laws remain in place. Switch leaders, move to a different place, someone up higher gets pissed off, and -boom- the atheist is out.

Best recommendation for parents with atheistic children is to inform them “they do not want our kind.” Regardless of the kindness of the individual Scoutmaster, the rules are “no atheists.”

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Teukka  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:46:58pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

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If the BSA doesn’t disavow this rancid horseshit then the BSA is a dangerous fascist organization that should be stripped of all federal funding.

It would basically be Drumpfjugend at that point.

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:47:14pm
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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:47:33pm

re: #127 Timothy Watson

You know, the Nazis banned the Boy Scouts in 1935 because they didn’t want any competition for the Hitler Youth.

Looks like they won’t have to go to that trouble here.

The guy who created the concept of scouting in Great Britain turned out to be a Hilter fanboy and wanted to develop an alliance with the Hilter Youth.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:49:31pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:49:51pm

A scout is Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent, and hates Obama, and Obamacare, and Someone named Clinton.

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fern01  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:49:58pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

This is going to hurt Scouting. Every adult leader needs to immediately do everything possible to denounce this behavior and distance themselves from it.

I sure hope so - but I am reminded of what happened to the youth groups in Germany in the 1930s. Anyone left of center is going to leave the Scouts - and they will remain as a right wing hate group of young men.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:51:05pm

I wrote a letter.

wheatdogg.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:51:18pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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This exactly.

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sagehen  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:51:19pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

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If the BSA doesn’t disavow this rancid horseshit then the BSA is a dangerous fascist organization that should be stripped of all federal funding.

Trump appeared Monday evening at the 19th National Boy Scout Jamboree in West Virginia. Speaking to some 40,000 people, most of whom were boys under 18, Trump departed from his prepared text, which was a conventional tribute to the value of scouting, and delivered a rambling address reminiscent of his famous monologues from the 2016 campaign.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:51:24pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:52:40pm

Be prepared.

Do a good turn daily.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:52:51pm

re: #145 Barefoot Grin

A scout is Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent, and hates Obama, and Obamacare, and Someone named Clinton.

A WOMAN named Clinton

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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:52:52pm

re: #105 Targetpractice

Congrats, John, you’ve totally dashed all the good favor you’ve received for days to win the approval of pricks who were praying for your death.

He’s an elected Republican. You think they have any sets of morals or human decency?

They will all cave in the end and be gutless lapdogs to McConnell’s sadism and nihilism. Every. Last. One.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:53:18pm

Sigh

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:54:09pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:54:46pm

Interestingly, an image posted to Wonkette notes that three Republicans won by a smaller margin than the number of people who would lose health insurance in their states (Cruz, Rubio, and Cornyn).

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:55:53pm

re: #147 wheat-dogg

That was excellent.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:57:13pm

re: #152 Stanley Sea

A WOMAN named Clinton

Yes! Great catch.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:57:38pm

re: #154 Stanley Sea

Sigh

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And it deserves more than a sigh. That’s all I had at the moment.

We need to fucking FIGHT.

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fern01  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:58:21pm

re: #99 EPR-radar

What could possibly be more Republican than a terminally ill man dragging himself to the Senate to try to fuck over health care for the entire country?

The legacy of John McCain

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:58:45pm

re: #149 sagehen

Strip them of their funding? There is no way the fascists now controlling the government would strip the BSA of its funding if they stand for this fascist Nuremberg rally of children.

If the BSA denounces the speech in unequivocal terms, they might lose their Federal funding.

I’m guessing the BSA will go with the money. They have long been irredeemable in my eyes, but this is a “no return” point for anyone still supporting the BSA.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:58:53pm

re: #157 MsJ

That was excellent.

Thankee

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 6:59:23pm

I wonder how many parents had a talk with their kids about what Trump was saying, how many talked about the possibility of losing their insurance, or the fact that others would be losing it, and that Trump was very unpresidential? I know the number is greater than zero.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:00:18pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:00:21pm

This is McCain’s chance to do the right thing for the country AND stick it in Trump’s ass as revenge for the captured soldier remarks. I hope he does the right thing.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:01:12pm

re: #165 Ace Rothstein

This is McCain’s chance to do the right thing for the country AND stick it in Trump’s ass as revenge for the captured soldier remarks. I hope he does the right thing.

He won’t. He’s a Republican first.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:01:15pm

No word yet if President Trump led the Boy Scouts in a stirring rendition of “Springtime for Hitler.”

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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:01:34pm

And yes, I expect Portman to cave and vote for whatever is placed in front of him, like the unimaginative rubber stamp he is. (I hold him in absolute contempt for happily letting DeVos in because her hubby stuffed his pockets full of cash.)

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:02:40pm

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:03:14pm

re: #168 Myron Falwell

And yes, I expect Portman to cave and vote for whatever is placed in front of him, like the unimaginative rubber stamp he is. (I hold him in absolute contempt for happily letting DeVos in because her hubby stuffed his pockets full of cash.)

I expect my “never-Trump” senator Ben Sasse to vote the party line, because it’s turning out he was just using the “never-Trump” line to get attention. He’s party over country.

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Teukka  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:03:41pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:04:30pm

re: #165 Ace Rothstein

This is McCain’s chance to do the right thing for the country AND stick it in Trump’s ass as revenge for the captured soldier remarks. I hope he does the right thing.

I would be delighted if McCain would do this, but it seems very unlikely. One has to be very evil to remain a Republican these days.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:04:36pm

re: #165 Ace Rothstein

This is McCain’s chance to do the right thing for the country AND stick it in Trump’s ass as revenge for the captured soldier remarks. I hope he does the right thing.

And like so many other times before, he’ll let the country down.

He’ll be dead soon, so what will he care?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:04:53pm

Part of me believes McCain has had a wakeup call with his cancer. Maybe he will think of others less fortunate than him who will actually have to pay out of their pockets for any sort of treatment that will likely not be as good as his… and vote NO on Trumpcare.

The rest of me realizes it’s John McCain and he always votes the party line.

The guy has yet another chance to be a hero (of sorts) for his country. We all know he’s going to throw away everything he’s already lost.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:05:13pm

re: #166 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He won’t. He’s a Republican first.

But, feebly, he’ll express concerns.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:06:04pm

As a reminder …

New findings, for instance, show that the Trump Foundation’s largest-ever gift — $264,631 — was used to renovate a fountain outside the windows of Trump’s Plaza Hotel.

Its smallest-ever gift, for $7, was paid to the Boy Scouts in 1989, at a time when it cost $7 to register a new Scout. Trump’s oldest son was 11 at the time. Trump did not respond to a question about whether the money was paid to register him.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:06:53pm

re: #165 Ace Rothstein

This is McCain’s chance to do the right thing for the country AND stick it in Trump’s ass as revenge for the captured soldier remarks. I hope he does the right thing.

I think they all have cover that this is just a procedural vote.

They are not voting for anything yet but solidarity & we’re not as fucked up as you say….

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:07:15pm

The Russians and their stooges are really playing up the nuclear blackmail angle. They are getting desperate.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:07:18pm

re: #170 Anymouse 🌹

I expect my “never-Trump” senator Ben Sasse to vote the party line, because it’s turning out he was just using the “never-Trump” line to get attention. He’s party over country.

“Never Trump” was nothing more than a worthless marketing ploy engineered by Eric Son of Erick.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:11:29pm

re: #173 Myron Falwell

And like so many other times before, he’ll let the country down.

He’ll be dead soon, so what will he care?

The literal definition of, “Fuck you, I got mine.”

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No Depression  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:11:58pm

re: #169 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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Russia isn’t Communist anymore, fuckwit.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:12:03pm

Fuck the world today. Really. Need me some Joe. Sigh.

Joe Bonamassa - “Sloe Gin” - Muddy Wolf at Red Rocks

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:13:04pm

re: #182 GlutenFreeJesus

I was at that show!

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:13:19pm

re: #181 No Depression

Russia isn’t Communist anymore, fuckwit.

He’s talking to Lubbockite conservatives. Hard to guess what they don’t know.

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dangerman  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:15:42pm

re: #170 Anymouse 🌹

I expect my “never-Trump” senator Ben Sasse to vote the party line, because it’s turning out he was just using the “never-Trump” line to get attention. He’s party over country.

Trump before party
Party before reality
winning even before ideology
everything before country

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:16:06pm

I thought I was watching a speech by Kim Jong-Un to the North Korean Youth League.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:16:39pm

re: #169 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Russia has been a political boogieman since the early 1900s. And Republicans were always the ones using it.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:16:49pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:17:46pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:18:29pm

re: #189 goddamnedfrank

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“Ngggggg… Why does Jean Grey make it look so easy to explode people’s heads?”

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:18:59pm

re: #189 goddamnedfrank

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He’s really good at making Trump go out of focus.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:19:54pm

Bonus cuteness, baby pig getting tickled:

Ticklish Baby Pig

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:20:33pm

re: #183 teleskiguy

Damn. I’m watching the rest of the set list. A very friendly fuck you to you. :D :D :D

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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:22:09pm

re: #180 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The literal definition of, “Fuck you, I got mine.”

The ultimate epithet to the greediest, most self-absorbed generation ever.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:24:05pm

re: #182 GlutenFreeJesus

Must admit music has been a bigger part of sanity maintenance and anger/frustration mgmt lately. Hmm since about November, maybe latish January. Exercising, bag work, certain escrima drills. Then an adult libation and smoke.

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:25:14pm

re: #46 MsJ

Andrew Golis @agolis
For the 1st time in 21 years, MSNBC is #1 in cable news.


8:12 PM - 24 Jul 2017

Trump winning.

Thanks Trump. You built that.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:25:19pm

Fuck it all. I’m going back to the last season of The Leftovers. Think I have 5 left.

Props to JasonA who isn’t here I think, but did a influential rec.

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Archangelus  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:25:45pm

“I apologize for nothing!” /HedonismBot

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darthstar  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:28:59pm

Pupdate - Long Tail - aka LT, aka Lt Dan, aka ‘Arry Potter, aka some Grateful Dead themed name due to his forehead lightning bolt, is getting bigger…

We pick him up this weekend.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:29:29pm
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Interesting Times  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:29:38pm

Succinct summary of sucktastic situation:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:32:32pm

re: #195 Unshaken Defiance

Must admit music has been a bigger part of sanity maintenance and anger/frustration mgmt lately. Hmm since about November, maybe latish January. Exercising, bag work, certain escrima drills. Then an adult libation and smoke.

Music, and unashamedly, Pokemon Go for me. Actually met a cool group of people that play a lot locally. I’m the grandpa of the bunch at 43 but whatever. It gets me out on my days off from work.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:33:06pm

re: #199 darthstar

I’ve been following all of your pupdates, and he’s a good looking dog! As the proud parent of an 18 month old pupper, I can state with certainty that a) puppies are a LOT more work than I remembered, and b) puppies are worth it all.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:33:46pm

re: #199 darthstar

How exciting!! Can’t wait to hear about the adventures with the new fam.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:35:35pm

He’s on Air Force One right now - as Jim Wright describes it - like a rat in a box on fire, chewing his own tail off.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:36:20pm

Oh my. If you like good banjo sharply lyrical folk, cigar voiced vocals please proceed.

Iframe

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:36:45pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:37:53pm

He’s trying to tank Amazon’s stock.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:39:51pm
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darthstar  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:41:18pm

re: #203 Flying Squirrel Girl

I’ve been following all of your pupdates, and he’s a good looking dog! As the proud parent of an 18 month old pupper, I can state with certainty that a) puppies are a LOT more work than I remembered, and b) puppies are worth it all.

re: #204 JordanRules

How exciting!! Can’t wait to hear about the adventures with the new fam.

It’s time for Banjo to have a younger brother. It’ll be interesting having two cattle dogs in the house, but I remember Banjo’s puppy days. He’d run to the door and bark to be let out, and as I walked over he’d look up as if to say, “Never mind” and pee on the floor in front of the door. That didn’t last too long…he was a fast learner.

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ipsos  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:41:55pm

Way OT rant about a thing with my kid that has me teed off tonight…

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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:42:25pm

re: #208 teleskiguy

He’s trying to tank Amazon’s stock.

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He tried that with Conde Nast after Vanity Fair tore into a valid Ivanka vanity thingy. And it backfired spectacularly.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:43:32pm

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:44:06pm

re: #208 teleskiguy

He’s trying to tank Amazon’s stock.

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You mean the no-tax issue that Congress refuses to fix by doing something standard? But, considering the fact that Amazon collects taxes for me here in Texas, I’m not sure what he’s talking about any more.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:44:42pm

re: #207 Charles Johnson

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:44:44pm

re: #214 Belafon

You mean the no-tax issue that Congress refuses to fix by doing something standard? But, considering the fact that Amazon collects taxes for me here in Texas, I’m not sure what he’s talking about any more.

Well, neither does he.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:44:50pm

re: #212 Myron Falwell

Plus it’s Amazon. Bezos outfit is embedded into American consumerism. He’ll sell you anything and people want that. Turnip can’t fight that.

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Weaselone  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:45:36pm

re: #216 wheat-dogg

Well, neither does he.

He’s lying. Amazon pays taxes.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:46:20pm
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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:46:58pm

re: #217 JordanRules

Plus it’s Amazon. Bezos outfit is embedded into American consumerism. He’ll sell you anything and people want that. Turnip can’t fight that.

Want to really piss off the middle class, force Amazon to end Prime. 70% of middle class people have Prime. They would turn on Trump in a heart beat if he damaged that.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:47:11pm

Latest CT du jour (or du heure)

Were Chris Cornell (SoundGarden) and Chester Bennington (Linkin) murdered for their knowledge of child trafficking from Haiti by the Clinton Foundation ?

I will not link to it, because I care for your mental health.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:48:40pm

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹

The Scouting Oath as its treated is you must have a belief in a god. Doesn’t matter which god (which is why there are scouting organisations around the world). But the god part is a must. Without that, you can be denied membership or kicked out if discovered.

Judaism is fine. Jews believe in a god. However, with the Hitler Youth rally Trump held this afternoon, if I was a Jewish (or Muslim) scout I’d be headed for the exits.

I was a Jew Scout. Loved the hiking.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:49:33pm

re: #217 JordanRules

Plus it’s Amazon. Bezos outfit is embedded into American consumerism. He’ll sell you anything and people want that. Turnip can’t fight that.

How strong is Amazon in the marketplace?
It’s making Walmart change how it does business.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:49:34pm

re: #195 Unshaken Defiance

Must admit music has been a bigger part of sanity maintenance and anger/frustration mgmt lately. Hmm since about November, maybe latish January. Exercising, bag work, certain escrima drills. Then an adult libation and smoke.

I feed squirrels. They don’t care who’s president.

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:50:24pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:50:24pm

re: #213 Flying Squirrel Girl

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:50:34pm
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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:50:59pm

re: #220 Belafon

Want to really piss off the middle class, force Amazon to end Prime. 70% of middle class people have Prime. They would turn on Trump in a heart beat if he damaged that.

He’ll blame Hillary if that happens, and the brain-dead pig people wouldn’t care to think otherwise.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:51:00pm

re: #220 Belafon

Yup. I’d say about 3 out of 4 folks in my close circle are wedded to Prime.

Amazon has changed reseller industries. They touch every facet of our consumerism.

Losing battle for Cheeto.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:52:23pm

Some real-world fallout from Fuckface Von Clownstick’s gross speech today in West Virginia.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:52:49pm

re: #211 ipsos

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:53:08pm

re: #228 Myron Falwell

He’ll blame Hillary if that happens, and the brain-dead pig people wouldn’t care to think otherwise.

But the brain dead people don’t include my former manager who gets bulk toilet paper delivered to his house out in the country with free shipping because of Prime.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:53:17pm

re: #201 Interesting Times

Will cancer-stricken SenJohnMcCain help a draft-dodger who called him a loser take health care from millions? Then this will be his legacy.

Yes. He gave up his dignity the second he endorsed Trump.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:53:19pm

re: #223 FormerDirtDart

Boom! Now that is the big dog power indicator.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:55:28pm

I hope Amazon stock goes through the roof tomorrow.

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:55:58pm
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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:56:05pm

re: #230 teleskiguy

Some real-world fallout from Fuckface Von Clownstick’s gross speech today in West Virginia.

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Until I opened the tweet, I thought the avatar was an offset Lucha mask.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:56:10pm

re: #198 Archangelus

“I apologize for nothing!” /HedonismBot

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Hot lava or nothing.

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:56:56pm

I guess the Kushner questioning didn’t go so well.

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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:57:02pm

re: #235 GlutenFreeJesus

I hope Amazon stock goes through the roof tomorrow.

It’s been doing that for weeks now.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:57:19pm

re: #199 darthstar

Pupdate - Long Tail - aka LT, aka Lt Dan, aka ‘Arry Potter, aka some Grateful Dead themed name due to his forehead lightning bolt, is getting bigger…

We pick him up this weekend.

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OMG Darth, you guys are toast.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:57:41pm

re: #226 teleskiguy

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:57:41pm

re: #152 Stanley Sea

A WOMAN named Clinton

Anyone named Clinton. From now until the end of time.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:57:48pm

re: #236 jaunte

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I kind of wonder how many former Scouts there are around him, and might of told him what they thought.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:59:11pm

re: #233 Anymouse 🌹

Yes. He gave up his dignity the second he endorsed Trump.

Picking Palin as his veep did that. It was all over but the shouting.

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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:59:27pm

re: #244 Belafon

I kind of wonder how many former Scouts there are around him, and might of told him what they thought.

They thought it was the best speech to the BSA in the history of speeches.

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:59:44pm
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darthstar  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:59:50pm

re: #241 Stanley Sea

OMG Darth, you guys are toast.

And happily so.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:59:51pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:59:51pm

re: #214 Belafon

You mean the no-tax issue that Congress refuses to fix by doing something standard? But, considering the fact that Amazon collects taxes for me here in Texas, I’m not sure what he’s talking about any more.

Amazon collects sales tax in every state that requires them to do so.

In fact, when I lived in Oklahoma, I had to send both Netflix and Amazon paperwork showing I was sales tax exempt as a disabled veteran so they would take it off my accounts when I lived there.

Trump’s lying.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 7:59:54pm

re: #242 Flying Squirrel Girl

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:01:14pm

re: #244 Belafon

That’s not really how it generally works for people around him. They don’t tell him the truth.

I’d bet something coming up on another front is troubling him. Usually when he goes after the media they’ve already reached out to his crew so they can go on record or not before they push forth with the story.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:01:55pm

re: #229 JordanRules

Yup. I’d say about 3 out of 4 folks in my close circle are wedded to Prime.

Amazon has changed reseller industries. They touch every facet of our consumerism.

Losing battle for Cheeto.

We all know they’ve been evil on occasion, but the fact that their website is a front end for other sellers in addition to their own stuff is pretty cool. I really like the fact that I can pay through them. The fewer places that I have to put in my account information, the better.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:02:13pm

re: #220 Belafon

Want to really piss off the middle class, force Amazon to end Prime. 70% of middle class people have Prime. They would turn on Trump in a heart beat if he damaged that.

The other thirty percent of us don’t have credit cards. (Fun fact: Amazon takes cheques or money orders.)

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darthstar  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:03:17pm

re: #249 Charles Johnson

Jesus…can we take his security clearance away too?

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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:03:33pm

re: #236 jaunte

It’s too late for an overnight scoop, but I would concur with John. The WaPo has broken the vast majority of the most damaging stories about Ill Douche.

And tomorrow afternoon could very well be a true barn burner.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:03:40pm

re: #211 ipsos

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:04:29pm

re: #255 darthstar

Jesus…can we take his security clearance away too?

Sadly, no. All of that authority originates from the President.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:05:20pm

re: #256 Myron Falwell

It’s too late for an overnight scoop, but I would concur with John. The WaPo has broken the vast majority of the most damaging stories about Ill Douche.

And tomorrow afternoon could very well be a true barn burner.

Maybe he can follow Jr.s lead and release it himself. That worked out well. //

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:05:30pm

re: #251 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:05:49pm

How to get banned from Dick’s Sporting Goods for life…

Instagram

You want to be like these kids when you grow up 💪🏼. #illegalsender #sorryofficeriwasjustsending

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:07:24pm

re: #256 Myron Falwell

It’s too late for an overnight scoop, but I would concur with John. The WaPo has broken the vast majority of the most damaging stories about Ill Douche.

And tomorrow afternoon could very well be a true barn burner.

Well, he did just leak that classified info about Syria. On Twitter… I bet that’s Chapter 2 tomorrow.

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:08:36pm

Thread about someone willing to brainwash themselves to agree with Trump.

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:09:30pm

Former scout here.

My God. He poisons every thing he touches.

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:09:55pm
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makeitstop  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:10:03pm

re: #252 JordanRules

That’s not really how it generally works for people around him. They don’t tell him the truth.

I’d bet something coming up on another front is troubling him. Usually when he goes after the media they’ve already reached out to his crew so they can go on record or not before they push forth with the story.

Maybe we’ve arrived at the part of the story where the media turn their attention to Princess Evita…

If anything would completely unhinge him, that would do it.

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darthstar  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:10:36pm

re: #261 teleskiguy

How to get banned from Dick’s Sporting Goods for life…

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I hope they banned his father, his friend, and his friend’s father too.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:12:03pm

re: #267 darthstar

I hope they banned his father, his friend, and his friend’s father too.

Pretty sure that’s a crime. Reckless endangerment?

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:12:12pm

re: #177 Stanley Sea

I think they all have cover that this is just a procedural vote.

They are not voting for anything yet but solidarity & we’re not as fucked up as you say….

Thank you. Not many are catching this is a “vote to see if they really should vote”…vote.

Sure they are doing everything they can to push this through without paying the political price, but so far America, the people are holding. And many of them are Republican.

Hopefully the people keep up the pressure. 16% like their plan 78% want them to work on Obamacare. Congress 11% approval. Those numbers still mean something.

McConnell needs to sweat this big time and hopefully go down in flames. It would not only be nice to see GOP healthcare legislation die but this might open up more dislike for Trump in the party. He hasn’t done anything but try to bully and embarrass them to vote.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:13:24pm

Tempted to ask in the next tweet what congressmen or Senators want to be that kind of killer.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:13:44pm

re: #266 makeitstop

I’d add extra butter to my popcorn while calling Senator Flake’s office.

These evil mickyfickys have no idea how well I multi-task!

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darthstar  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:13:56pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:14:30pm
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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:14:32pm

re: #270 Unshaken Defiance

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Tempted to ask in the next tweet what congressmen or Senators want to be that kind of killer.

Sometimes the tree of liberty has to be watered with the blood of the undeserving. //////

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:15:21pm

From the former deputy director of the CIA

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darthstar  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:15:21pm

Okay…that was probably borderline off-color.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:16:36pm

re: #269 ObserverArt

I only hope we can keep holding the line until November 2018.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:16:47pm

re: #272 darthstar

Almost Godwin:

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:16:50pm

re: #269 ObserverArt

I did my part to keep up the pressure today, even if it was only calling my shitbag Senators, Cruz and Cornyn. I called both in their south TX and DC offices, and let them know that the American people will remember their votes tomorrow. I also shared my personal story about my mom being denied coverage after her breast cancer diagnosis. I have my script ready and will call again first thing in the morning, FWIW.

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retired cynic  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:16:51pm

re: #276 darthstar

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Okay…that was probably borderline off-color.

Borderline? Snork!

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:17:05pm
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darthstar  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:17:33pm

re: #277 GlutenFreeJesus

I only hope we can keep holding the line until November 2018.

209 new Democrats running for office in Congress…that’s fucking huge. The GOP had 78 in 2009 before their big swing election of 2010.

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darthstar  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:18:26pm

re: #280 retired cynic

Borderline? Snork!

I’m not running for office…obviously.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:18:26pm

re: #198 Archangelus

“I apologize for nothing!” /HedonismBot

Can’t: He’s already jumped.

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:19:30pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:19:59pm

Sooner or later Trump is going to bite off way more than he can chew with one of these hate tweets. There’s no way that the White House counsel’s office is going to want or be able to defend a major corporate defamation lawsuit that results from a malignant, lying tweet on Trump’s personal account.

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darthstar  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:20:24pm
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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:20:33pm

Having some fun at first, and then had to get serious:

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:21:54pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:22:01pm
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darthstar  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:22:35pm
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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:22:51pm

re: #281 jaunte

THIS. When my mom was sick, the right wingers in the family were upset that my sister and I were “planning for her death” instead of “praying for a miracle.” They told us, “She’s beat cancer twice already! Pray that she does it again!” and I was all, “Um, no she hasn’t, this is the same cancer that has now spread to a different place.”

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:25:40pm

re: #290 teleskiguy

Thanks for RT

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:26:23pm

re: #269 ObserverArt

Thank you. Not many are catching this is a “vote to see if they really should vote”…vote.

Sure they are doing everything they can to push this through without paying the political price, but so far America, the people are holding. And many of them are Republican.

Hopefully the people keep up the pressure. 16% like their plan 78% want them to work on Obamacare. Congress 11% approval. Those numbers still mean something.

McConnell needs to sweat this big time and hopefully go down in flames. It would not only be nice to see GOP healthcare legislation die but this might open up more dislike for Trump in the party. He hasn’t done anything but try to bully and embarrass them to vote.

The objective here is to enter essentially a blank bill, and McConnell then switches in an amendment which becomes the bill (and wipes out any amendments proposed by Democrats).

Don’t be fooled: This is the real thing. Republicans will vote for anything (see the earlier comment today by Richard Burr … apparently he would vote to castrate himself and sell his wife into sex slavery with Islamic State, as he said he would “vote for anything”).

All they care about are two things: a) Their racist desire to wipe President Obama from the history books, and 2) more tax cuts for those who don’t need them.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:27:04pm

re: #289 MsJ

I love Jeffery’s banner:

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:27:48pm

re: #293 wheat-dogg

Your letter is getting read by more than a few jam band aficionados who were Scouts.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:28:41pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:29:42pm

re: #296 teleskiguy

Your letter is getting read by more than a few jam band aficionados who were Scouts.

I hope it gains some traction. I doubt BSA leadership will reply, and I intend to make the lack thereof public, too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:29:46pm

re: #283 darthstar

I’m not running for office…obviously.

At this point, if Jane Kleeb weren’t running against Adrian Smith, I would put myself in the poorhouse to try.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:31:14pm
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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:31:49pm

re: #279 Flying Squirrel Girl

I did my part to keep up the pressure today, even if it was only calling my shitbag Senators, Cruz and Cornyn. I called both in their south TX and DC offices, and let them know that the American people will remember their votes tomorrow. I also shared my personal story about my mom being denied coverage after her breast cancer diagnosis. I have my script ready and will call again first thing in the morning, FWIW.

Tomorrow I will call Cruz and Cornyn while my son is taking his driving test.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:32:34pm

re: #291 darthstar

👀 AARP is coming for anybody who votes for Trumpcare

“HAHA, joke’s on you! I’m a member of AMAC! NYAHH” — Republican John Q. Bumpkin of Bumfuck County, Wyoming

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:32:36pm

Snopes debunked one of Dreher’s claims about scary black professors who want to kill whitey…

Did a Texas A&M Professor Advocate Killing White People?

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:33:49pm

re: #136 Barefoot Grin

I didn’t either. We met at an elementary school and not a church.

Yeah - we always met at school.

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darthstar  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:36:11pm
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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:36:42pm

re: #136 Barefoot Grin

I didn’t either. We met at an elementary school and not a church.

The troop I was in Back In The Day(tm) ** not only met in a church, but in a AA room to boot! And no, there was no required affirmation of my religious beliefs, thankfully.

** Late 1990s; I’m not THAT old

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:38:53pm

Per usual.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:39:10pm

@dog_rates retweeted, but, did not rate.
i think it overwhelmed the rating system…

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:40:54pm

re: #286 goddamnedfrank

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Sooner or later Trump is going to bite off way more than he can chew with one of these hate tweets. There’s no way that the White House counsel’s office is going to want or be able to defend a major corporate defamation lawsuit that results from a malignant, lying tweet on Trump’s personal account.

One thing, err two things for sure about Donald J. Trump.

He’s got a big mouth. And he is an asshole.

He is our big-mouthed asshole President.

Feel the fucking love. Dump Trump.

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retired cynic  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:41:19pm

re: #308 FormerDirtDart

@dog_rates retweeted, but, did not rate.
i think it overwhelmed the rating system…

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An Italian Greyhound? We had one that color. He was such a dirty little old man!

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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:41:49pm

re: #300 JordanRules

It all comes down to:
Lee
Murkowski
Heller
Portman
Capito
Moran

My unedumacated scorekeeping, which sometimes means as much as the paid “experts” at times:

Lee — easy yes. Grandstanding about how the bill isn’t bad enough for his own tastes won’t matter, esp. if it’s a bait-and-switch. Honestly, Rand could do the same.
Murkowski — either a no or abstain
Heller — likely cave
Portman — DEFINITE cave, even if it makes the Sanctimonious AF John Kasich even more of a goddam political dynamo in Ohio. FFS.
Capito — likely cave
Moran — likely cave

Either way, we’re fucked tomorrow.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:43:26pm

re: #307 JordanRules

Per usual.

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Trump didn’t use the Boy Scouts as props. He sold propaganda to the kids.

1. Obama wasn’t the first to speak to school kids.
2. “Stay in school” isn’t “Why are they making up fake news about me?”

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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:44:44pm

re: #307 JordanRules

Here comes the both sidesing, like clockwork

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:44:51pm

re: #307 JordanRules

Because President Obama speaking to children on television was all about bashing his opponents in the election and demanding they call their congresscritters to support his legislation.

Wait, that’s not the way I remember it. I remember racist wingnuts. Popehat is wrong there, he is trying to bothsiderism this so hard that he’s going to break his connexion to Twitter.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:45:45pm

re: #311 Myron Falwell

My unedumacated scorekeeping, which sometimes means as much as the paid “experts” at times:

Lee — easy yes. Grandstanding about how the bill isn’t bad enough for his own tastes won’t matter, esp. if it’s a bait-and-switch. Honestly, Rand could do the same.
Murkowski — either a no or abstain
Heller — likely cave
Portman — DEFINITE cave, even if it makes the Sanctimonious AF John Kasich even more of a goddam political dynamo in Ohio. FFS.
Capito — likely cave
Moran — likely cave

Either way, we’re fucked tomorrow.

Capito will be interesting. West Virginia as told her before how they think she should vote. And, as I’ve said before, they’ve shown they will vote for Democrats.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:46:44pm

I guess it’s time to start cutting out red triangles with a “P” on them to sew on my clothes. (Socialist, grandchild of undocumented Polish immigrants to be deported.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:47:31pm

re: #315 Belafon

Capito will be interesting. West Virginia as told her before how they think she should vote. And, as I’ve said before, they’ve shown they will vote for Democrats.

That’s why West Virginia went all-in for Hillary Clinton. /s

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:49:39pm

re: #310 retired cynic

An Italian Greyhound? We had one that color. He was such a dirty little old man!

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:49:42pm

Just occurred to me that we may finally (after 10 years) see Julian Assange release a “leaked” Russian document: Plans for a pre-emptive nuclear strike against the United States if Trump is about to be removed from office.
The putative rationale would be to keep rabidly anti-Russian atheist/gay/journalist forces from consolidating their control and threatening the Motherland. The real purpose, of course, would be to intimidate Trump opponents with a terrifying bluff.
Russian stooges and fellow travelers all over the net are already going there. It started with Stein and the Greens and has now spread to generic RWNJs. Expect Hoft to have it by tomorrow.

320
retired cynic  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:50:48pm

re: #318 FormerDirtDart

What the????

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:51:17pm
322
Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:52:36pm

re: #320 retired cynic

What the????

From the original Men In Black.

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prairiefire  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:52:46pm

re: #264 Scottish Dragon

Former scout here.

My God. He poisons every thing he touches.

Breaks my heart. I’m going to have a sit down with my Life scout son tomorrow about this. I’m crying right now.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:53:24pm

re: #319 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Just occurred to me that we may finally (after 10 years) see Julian Assange release a “leaked” Russian document: Plans for a pre-emptive nuclear strike against the United States if Trump is about to be removed from office.
The putative rationale would be to keep rabidly anti-Russian atheist/gay/journalist forces from consolidating their control and threatening the Motherland. The real purpose, of course, would be to intimidate Trump opponents with a terrifying bluff.
Russian stooges and fellow travelers all over the net are already going there. It started with Stein and the Greens and has now spread to generic RWNJs. Expect Hoft to have it by tomorrow.

That threat won’t actually intimidate anyone.

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Myron Falwell  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:53:38pm

re: #319 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Just occurred to me that we may finally (after 10 years) see Julian Assange release a “leaked” Russian document: Plans for a pre-emptive nuclear strike against the United States if Trump is about to be removed from office.
The putative rationale would be to keep rabidly anti-Russian atheist/gay/journalist forces from consolidating their control and threatening the Motherland. The real purpose, of course, would be to intimidate Trump opponents with a terrifying bluff.
Russian stooges and fellow travelers all over the net are already going there. It started with Stein and the Greens and has now spread to generic RWNJs. Expect Hoft to have it by tomorrow.

Ah, so THAT’S what Kim DotCon’s been up to after that abominable conspiracy theory with Seth Rich fizzled out.

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retired cynic  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:54:01pm

re: #322 Belafon

From the original Men In Black.

Sorry. I have watched very few movies or tv shows. We just didn’t do that. So pop references will always leave me out in the back forty!

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:55:12pm

re: #317 Anymouse 🌹

That’s why West Virginia went all-in for Hillary Clinton. /s

I’m sure Manchin scares her way more than Trump.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:55:16pm
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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:58:01pm

re: #326 retired cynic

Sorry. I have watched very few movies or tv shows. We just didn’t do that. So pop references will always leave me out in the back forty!

I watch a lot of older movies with my kids, not only because they’re good, but so they can get and make pop culture references. I also have them watch movies like Harold & Maude so they have something offbeat to refer to.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 8:58:17pm

re: #323 prairiefire

Breaks my heart. I’m going to have a sit down with my Life scout son tomorrow about this. I’m crying right now.

I had that sit down with my mother when I was thirteen or so, when the Scouts threw me out.

“They don’t want our kind” has stuck with me my whole life. I never forgot her attempts at trying to console me.

I passed that on to my son before he joined, sparing him the Boy Scouts cruel treatment of those not like themselves. “We are not their kind.” He never joined after he learned why I was banned. The BSA for all its alleged goodness covers its bigotry well. It is not worthy of support until it changes, and it won’t.

I am sorry you have to do this with your son. I guarantee you the BSA will not renounce this Nuremberg rally of children today.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:00:31pm

re: #329 Belafon

Just caught Harold and Maude on one of our basic cable movie channels about 6 months ago and really enjoyed it.

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Interesting Times  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:01:31pm

re: #264 Scottish Dragon

Former scout here.

My God. He poisons every thing he touches.

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prairiefire  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:02:15pm

re: #330 Anymouse 🌹

I can ride out a lot of shit from this idiot, but when he shits on my son, I am furious, I’m going to tear his throat out. breathes

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:03:56pm

I will always hate the Phillies (except when they’re playing the Yankees) but I’m loving this

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:04:41pm

re: #324 Belafon

That threat won’t actually intimidate anyone.

Explain please. I would not be intimidated in the least, but not everyone knows what I do about this. The stooges and Trumpsters are already invoking the shadow of nuclear war as a reason to stop the investigation.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:06:26pm

re: #333 prairiefire

I can ride out a lot of shit from this idiot, but when he shits on my son, I am furious, I’m going to tear his throat out. breathes

The key will be in the next day or so. We know Trump is a fool. What to watch for is how the BSA responds to this.

So far, the only response has been to delete negative comments from their Facebook wall.

I would really like to see the inclusive and caring Girl Scouts open themselves up to all children interested in Scouting. They can call themselves “The Scouts.”

Perhaps I am wrong about how the BSA will respond to this, but I don’t think so.

What Trump did today was heinous, however, the real test of character for the BSA is how they respond. Since they went to court to keep atheists out of their group, I am not hopeful.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:07:49pm

re: #332 Interesting Times

[Embedded content]

There’s some good responses in the Todd tweet, and the troll who doesn’t see how liberals would have children in the Scouts. This made me chuckle:

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:10:15pm

re: #336 Anymouse 🌹

The key will be in the next day or so. We know Trump is a fool. What to watch for is how the BSA responds to this.

So far, the only response has been to delete negative comments from their Facebook wall.

I would really like to see the inclusive and caring Girl Scouts open themselves up to all children interested in Scouting. They can call themselves “The Scouts.”

Perhaps I am wrong about how the BSA will respond to this, but I don’t think so.

What Trump did today was heinous, however, the real test of character for the BSA is how they respond. Since they went to court to keep atheists out of their group, I am not hopeful.

It’s like I said earlier, they’re going to find some way to spin their lack of action as keeping with their own rules, claiming to speak up against Trump would be a “political” decision on their part. That they don’t condone or condemn his words, but thank him for his support of the BSA.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:10:31pm

My letter has had 467 hits in the last 53 minutes.

722 in the last three hours

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:10:36pm

re: #335 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Explain please. I would not be intimidated in the least, but not everyone knows what I do about this. The stooges and Trumpsters are already invoking the shadow of nuclear war as a reason to stop the investigation.

Putin wouldn’t launch an attack because he wouldn’t actually have anything to rule over. I lived through part of the Cold War; a threat like that doesn’t compare to the day to day of actually being on edge. Thus, it’s all bluster. The people who are scared are scared of their shadows.

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prairiefire  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:11:04pm

re: #336 Anymouse 🌹

They have recently voted to allow gay scout masters, more leniency towards transgender. I’ll be talking with my scoutmaster husband tomorrow. I’ve fought for dem reps, I’ve fought for healthcare, I’m beyond words right now. Not my son, not the one most positive thing he has with his father. Oh my god.

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:11:54pm
343
freetoken  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:14:16pm

I wonder if Ra can get even 1000 votes:

Why I’m running for Texas State Senate

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:14:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:15:19pm

re: #338 Targetpractice

It’s like I said earlier, they’re going to find some way to spin their lack of action as keeping with their own rules, claiming to speak up against Trump would be a “political” decision on their part. That they don’t condone or condemn his words, but thank him for his support of the BSA.

$7 from the Trump Foundation. Seems pretty thin support to defend.

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:16:39pm

“…Only six states have a higher percentage of residents on Medicaid than West Virginia, according to a national nonprofit health policy group. More than 554,000 Mountain State residents — more than three of every 10 — are enrolled in the program, according to the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation.”
theintelligencer.net

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Interesting Times  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:16:43pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:17:10pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:18:33pm

re: #341 prairiefire

They still don’t permit atheists. That is a bridge too far for them. “They don’t want our kind” still applies to my whole family and millions of American children across the nation.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:19:22pm

re: #340 Belafon

Putin wouldn’t launch an attack because he wouldn’t actually have anything to rule over. I lived through part of the Cold War; a threat like that doesn’t compare to the day to day of actually being on edge. Thus, it’s all bluster. The people who are scared are scared of their shadows.

Scared of their shadows? That describes the Faux news audience to a T. They could easily be induced to pressure GOP senators to remain loyal and not vote for removal or, at an earlier stage, to call in all markers and sacrifice all future cooperation to stop an investigation and impeachment. The investigation is where we are now, and we are already seeing this line of attack. The idea is not to frighten Mueller or even Congress, they know better, but to frighten the base.
After all, these are people who believe that crime is spinning out of control when it has actually declined by nearly half since 1980.

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prairiefire  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:20:10pm

re: #350 Anymouse 🌹

My son is agnostic and has not been pressed on the issue as far as I know

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:21:08pm

re: #308 FormerDirtDart

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:21:50pm

re: #349 FormerDirtDart

Edit: I had a discussion the other day with my son about how sometimes the correct choice isn’t the one given as an option.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:22:48pm

re: #352 prairiefire

My son is agnostic and has not been pressed on the issue as far as I know

I hid my lack of religiosity until I was explicitly pressed by my Scoutmaster. I was kicked out/quit very soon after. I had made it to Life rank.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:23:52pm

re: #349 FormerDirtDart

]

What the HELL is going on there?

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:24:06pm
358
retired cynic  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:24:35pm

re: #356 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

What the HELL is going there?

A very dirty, nasty mind. Attached to little talent.

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TedStriker  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:24:53pm

re: #355 teleskiguy

I hid my lack of religiosity until I was explicitly pressed by my Scoutmaster. I was kicked out/quit very soon after. I had made it to Life rank.

That’s why your Scoutmaster sucked…in my mind, the religious habits/affiliations of my Scouts is a personal issue for them and none of my damn business.

360
cat-tikvah  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:25:28pm

re: #125 Timothy Watson

#PullingAChaffetz

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:25:37pm

re: #356 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

What the HELL is going on there?

An abomination unto the art of the last 10,000 years.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:26:02pm

I fucking marched in a couple of 4th of July parades in my hometown in my Boy Scout uniform with my troop. I sold popcorn door-to-door every fall. This fucking shit is wracking my psyche.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:26:29pm

re: #352 prairiefire

My son is agnostic and has not been pressed on the issue as far as I know

The rules still apply in the BSA. All it takes is one official in the BSA and out you go (hence the court fight mounted and lost against the BSA).

The rules are clear that you must believe in a monotheistic god. While a particular scoutmaster or such might not enforce that rule, a superior might, or the next one might, or if you move the next group might, &c.

Not being pressed on the issue doesn’t mean that they can’t. All it takes is one objection by a wingnut and that’s it. (I wasn’t ousted by my scoutmaster: I was ousted by folk above him. The rules haven’t changed.)

MICHAEL ZUCCHET, SAN DIEGO CITY COUNCIL: Let me just read you from the judge’s statement. He says, “Not only does the Boy Scouts of America concede that it is a religious organization, but it insists that its religion is, in fact, fundamental to its purpose and mission.”

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:26:58pm

re: #356 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Gay terrorist wedding cakes.

365
TedStriker  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:27:52pm

re: #362 teleskiguy

I fucking marched in a couple of 4th of July parades in my hometown in my Boy Scout uniform with my troop. I sold popcorn door-to-door every fall. This fucking shit is wracking my psyche.

I was mortified earlier, now I’m fucking pissed; I’m ready to shoot off some very choice words to my council and to National.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:28:48pm

re: #357 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Helpful: The man’s family stole from a child cancer charity to line their own pockets.

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prairiefire  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:29:40pm

re: #359 TedStriker

This is a terrible situation. Our troop is mostly conservative, I’m sure, we live in a now deep red state. But people mind their own damn business and politics are not discussed. Now this shitgibbon has dragged all of us into a shit storm.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:30:38pm

re: #365 TedStriker

I was mortified earlier, now I’m fucking pissed; I’m ready to shoot off some very choice words to my council and to National.

I was kicked out because of that last word in the Law, “reverent.” I still greatly value a lot of my Scout experiences, especially at Kiwanis Camp on Grand Mesa.

369
Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:31:39pm

re: #349 FormerDirtDart

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:31:54pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:32:12pm

re: #364 jaunte

Gay terrorist wedding cakes.

I think the body on the gurney is Amb. Stevens.
Eating the gay terrorist wedding cake is obviously Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:34:03pm

re: #356 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

What the HELL is going on there?

The rantings of a very sick freak!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:34:17pm

Secular alternatives to the Boy Scouts of America:

quora.com

A group that encourages discrimination, that has bigotry as national policy, and that goes to court to fight to keep discriminating, is not a group that deserves your membership. Those who support the opportunities in the Boy Scouts and who wish to have positive impact can do so through a number of other groups, and the quickest way to push the Boy Scouts to change their policy would in fact be for all of those people at the local levels who DON’T support discrimination to give an ultimatum and then walk away if the Scouts refuse to end the discrimination. Meanwhile, demand that Congress stop all government funding of the Scouts — would we be okay with our tax dollars continuing to support a group that went to court to fight for their right to refuse admittance to blacks and Jews because they believe those people are inferior?

More at the link, with alternatives to the Boy Scouts.

Bitching at the BSA does not work; it never has. Like anything else, what will work is if people leave.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:35:51pm

I’ve done enough for one day. Time to call it a night.

Hasta mañana, todos!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:37:09pm

re: #349 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

He’s 7 years behind.

Of course. RWNJ fear always is.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:37:28pm

latimes.com

Boy Scouts kept secret files to help alleged child molesters cover their tracks.

How is that different from the Catholic Church?

A Los Angeles Times review of 1,600 confidential files dating from 1970 to 1991 has found that Scouting officials frequently urged admitted offenders to quietly resign — and helped many cover their tracks.

Volunteers and employees suspected of abuse were allowed to leave citing bogus reasons such as business demands, “chronic brain dysfunction” and duties at a Shakespeare festival.

The details are contained in the organization’s confidential “perversion files,” a blacklist of alleged molesters, that the Scouts have used internally since 1919. Scouts’ lawyers around the country have been fighting in court to keep the files from public view.

More at the link.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:38:25pm

re: #356 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

What the HELL is going on there?

Looking twice I see a military guy eating cake.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:39:44pm

re: #365 TedStriker

Got your back.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:40:56pm

I’m off to bed. What a day.

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TedStriker  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:43:01pm

re: #373 Anymouse 🌹

re: #376 Anymouse 🌹

Not that I don’t agree with you, especially when it comes to atheism/agnosticism WRT to the BSA, but I think you’ve made your points abundantly clear here, Captain Ahab…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:43:31pm

Thanks for the happy birthday wishes earlier guys. Life at 30. Well here I am.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:44:13pm
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Kragar  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:45:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:46:43pm

re: #383 Kragar

[Embedded content]

“We should try to get along better with Russia.” Donnie Yam.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:46:55pm

I got to decompress and listen to the Met Opera. I truly dread what President B-Hole may do tomorrow to further destroy this country.

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retired cynic  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:46:58pm

re: #383 Kragar

What goes around comes around…

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:47:22pm

Seth Meyers just did a segment on a WSJ piece about Sean Spicer. According to the report, Spicer wanted a mini fridge so he too the white house staff’s fridge late one night.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:48:18pm

re: #387 Belafon

Seth Meyers just did a segment on a WSJ piece about Sean Spicer. According to the report, Spicer wanted a mini fridge so he too the white house staff’s fridge late one night.

You’d think that a press secretary’s salary could pay for that or maybe Spieey is just a ladron.

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Semper Fi  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:50:07pm

re: #388 HappyWarrior

You’d think that a press secretary’s salary could pay for that or maybe Spieey is just a ladron.

That’s is what makes it kinda hard for me to believe.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:51:03pm

re: #389 Semper Fi

That’s is what makes it kinda hard for me to believe.

Yeah. I dunno. I mean I think Spicer is a bit of a jerk but stealing office property?

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:55:24pm

re: #388 HappyWarrior

You’d think that a press secretary’s salary could pay for that or maybe Spieey is just a ladron.

They’re like $69.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:56:35pm

re: #383 Kragar

From General Nicholson back in April:

washingtonpost.com

Russia’s proxy war vs. the US continues.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2017 • 9:59:45pm

re: #391 MsJ

They’re like $69.

Yeah I had one in college.

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petesh  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:02:11pm

re: #390 HappyWarrior

Yeah. I dunno. I mean I think Spicer is a bit of a jerk but stealing office property?

Re-purposing it. Quite different, since he ranked higher. It’s just socially normal where they are. (Mooch, of course, would have done it sooner.)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2017 • 10:04:02pm

re: #394 petesh

Re-purposing it. Quite different, since he ranked higher. It’s just socially normal where they are. (Mooch, of course, would have done it sooner.)

True, true.


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