Trump Bans Transgender People From Military Service to Save Funding for His Imaginary Border Wall

Another step back toward the Dark Ages

PoliticsJuly 2017 • Views: 35,006

Remember when Donald Trump said he was going to be the best friend LGBT people ever had?

He was lying, of course. Early this morning he made a snap decision, while sitting on his gold-plated toilet with his iPhone, to ban transgender people from all military service, and announced it on Twitter.

After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow……

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 26, 2017

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….Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military. Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming…..

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 26, 2017

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….victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail. Thank you

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 26, 2017

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“MY generals?” I wonder how career military officers feel about Trump deciding he now owns them?

And it gets worse.

This. is. nuts. https://t.co/I51ISAG93c pic.twitter.com/j49vCRjfNe

— Marina Fang (@marinafang) July 26, 2017

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And perhaps the most disgusting part of this latest disgusting episode in the ongoing saga of the Trump Horror: he did this to keep a bill alive that would fund his idiotic imaginary border wall.

House Republicans were planning to pass a spending bill stacked with his campaign promises, including money to build his border wall with Mexico.

But an internal House Republican fight over transgender troops was threatening to blow up the bill. And House GOP insiders feared they might not have the votes to pass the legislation because defense hawks wanted a ban on Pentagon-funded sex reassignment operations — something GOP leaders wouldn’t give them.

They turned to Trump, who didn’t hesitate. In the flash of a tweet, he announced that transgender troops would be banned altogether.

Also see

Before Trump banned transgender people from serving in military, here’s who praised him as pro-LGBTQ The military spends five times as much on Viagra as it would on transgender troops’ medical care

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308 comments

Charles Johnson Jul 26, 2017 • 12:38:05pm

Straight up white supremacist rhetoric from our so-called president. pic.twitter.com/dcVkXsMKGL

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 26, 2017

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 12:39:38pm

repost from downstairs:

WATCH: White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders is asked why Pentagon was surprised by Trump transgender tweets. https://t.co/rITkdrpWtV pic.twitter.com/koofIQd37Z

— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) July 26, 2017

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Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 12:40:10pm

They turned to Trump, who didn’t hesitate. In the flash of a tweet, he announced that transgender troops would be banned altogether.

Such very policy democratic deliberation.

Charles Johnson Jul 26, 2017 • 12:40:49pm

IN AMERICA WE DON’T WORSHIP GOVERNMENT - WE WORSHIP GOD!🎥https://t.co/jIejSgVnnA

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 26, 2017

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In America, NOBODY tells us who we should or should not worship, including this malignant narcissist. https://t.co/i3sOwRs6wm

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 26, 2017

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Ace Rothstein Jul 26, 2017 • 12:41:51pm

IN AMERICA, I DON’T WORSHIP ANY GOD, AND THE FOUNDERS WERE QUITE FINE WITH THAT.

Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 12:42:12pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Since when did Donald J. Trump worship anything or anyone but himself?

Jack Burton Jul 26, 2017 • 12:42:18pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

He copies it from Stormfront, and then makes it sound even more stupid. WINNING!

Take racist rant. Remove outright racial slurs, replace with euphemisms. Insert a lot of repeated 1-syllable words. Rearrange sentences in pseudo-random order. MAGA!

makeitstop Jul 26, 2017 • 12:42:35pm

‘Scuse me while I go and vomit.

.@SHSanders45 reads letter 9-year-old Dylan wrote to @POTUS: “You’re my favorite president. I like you so much.” https://t.co/zKzuYrWJdj pic.twitter.com/2GeHMJygSx

— Fox News (@FoxNews) July 26, 2017

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This is some North Korea shit https://t.co/DpHZZ0Ec2Z

— Lauren Duca (@laurenduca) July 26, 2017

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Dr. Matt Jul 26, 2017 • 12:43:10pm

Is Caitlin Jenner still a proud republican? @Caitlyn_Jenner

— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) July 26, 2017

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Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 12:43:33pm

re: #8 makeitstop

‘Scuse me while I go and vomit.

Why do you hate 9-year old Dylan you hateful Obama devil-worshipper!?!?!?

Franklin Jul 26, 2017 • 12:44:01pm

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re: #438 Kragar

Transgender Navy SEAL Team 6 hero to Trump: “Let’s meet face to face and you tell me I’m not worthy.” https://t.co/Nrak1u50BU

— Sabrina Siddiqui (@SabrinaSiddiqui) July 26, 2017

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 12:45:08pm

re: #8 makeitstop

‘Scuse me while I go and vomit.

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I’m old enough to remember when Obama addressing children was cause for controversy and rage and that parents could even withdraw their kids from the Obama address because conservatives needed their anti-Obama safe space.

nines09 Jul 26, 2017 • 12:45:16pm

re: #8 makeitstop

Dear Glorious Leader; I love you. I love you. But my mommy does not. That makes me sad. Can you take her away and get me a new mommy that loves you as I do? Please?
XOXOXOX
Sarah

Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 12:45:26pm

re: #8 makeitstop

‘Scuse me while I go and vomit.

Next, 10-year old Melissa writes to say that Democrats are poopyheads and why did that awful Mister Sessions excuse himself and not protect my favorite president who should be on Mt. Rushmore?

Related, remember when RWNJ accused Obama of using children as human shields (various episodes).

Jack Burton Jul 26, 2017 • 12:46:35pm

re: #8 makeitstop

So Dylan, why do you say that?

Because mommy and daddy told me.

I still believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and white english-speaking Jesus too.

wrenchwench Jul 26, 2017 • 12:46:38pm

re: #6 Sir John Barron

Since when did Donald J. Trump worship anything or anyone but himself?

Someone so self-centered, in such a seat of power, is the most dangerous scenario I can imagine. He’ll tear everyone else down to keep himself above them, family included.

HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 12:47:37pm

re: #11 Franklin

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I am glad to see her speaking out.

Eclectic Cyborg Jul 26, 2017 • 12:48:06pm

re: #8 makeitstop

‘Scuse me while I go and vomit.

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Consider this and the boy scout chants.

Now consider these are the same people who freaked the fuck out about a classroom of kids singing a song about Obama.

TedStriker Jul 26, 2017 • 12:48:37pm

re: #9 Dr. Matt

I’d say that’s likely a ‘yes’ for Jenner; isn’t she planning to run for a House or Senate seat sometime soon, for real? I remember someone posted something about that here lately.

Eclectic Cyborg Jul 26, 2017 • 12:48:39pm

I CAN’T FUCKING STAND PEOPLE WHO USE KIDS AS POLITICAL PROPS!

HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 12:48:54pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Consider this and the boy scout chants.

Now consider these are the same people who freaked the fuck out about a classroom of kids singing a song about Obama.

Of course.

Jack Burton Jul 26, 2017 • 12:48:56pm

re: #14 Sir John Barron

All that said, those kids singing that Obama song during the campaign… that was more than a little creepy.

Again, Obama didn’t prompt it or set it up. I wouldn’t be surprised if Clownstick did in this case, if not outright making them up.

Ace Rothstein Jul 26, 2017 • 12:49:33pm

President Trump is most pro-LGBTQ rights @POTUS in history. Why’s that story not written in mainstream media? https://t.co/pRf9rCNKH3

— Anthony Scaramucci (@Scaramucci) February 3, 2017

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 12:49:54pm

re: #19 TedStriker

I’d say that’s likely a ‘yes’ for Jenner; isn’t she planning to run for a House or Senate seat sometime soon, for real? I remember someone posted something about that here lately.

Yeah, she thinks she can be a voice for transgendered people within the Republican Party which is hilarious given that most Republicans can’t even acknowledge transgendered people as people.

FormerDirtDart Jul 26, 2017 • 12:49:55pm

So, I went internet and TV free (choice, not technical) today, until about 15 minutes ago.

I guess I didn’t miss much, huh?
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Charles Johnson Jul 26, 2017 • 12:49:59pm

The media Hall of Shame: Before Trump banned transgender people from the military, media praised him as pro-LGBTQ https://t.co/i7IUCRjJOi

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 26, 2017

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 26, 2017 • 12:50:03pm

re: #22 Jack Burton

All that said, those kids singing that Obama song during the campaign… that was more than a little creepy.

Again, Obama didn’t prompt it or set it up. I wouldn’t be surprised if Clownstick did in this case, if not outright making them up.

Also, it was a small group, not a gathering of 20000.

HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 12:50:33pm

re: #23 Ace Rothstein

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Ace Rothstein Jul 26, 2017 • 12:50:45pm

I’m so old, I remember when RWNJs lost their collective shit because Obama wore a tan suit.

Kragar Jul 26, 2017 • 12:50:57pm

It takes a special kind of asshole to be a draft dodger who called dating his personal Vietnam to ban people from enlisting in the military

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 26, 2017

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 26, 2017 • 12:51:04pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

After this they’ll probably still praise him for that.

Mike Lamb Jul 26, 2017 • 12:51:39pm

re: #23 Ace Rothstein

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He missed one on his deletion “to-do” list…

HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 12:51:41pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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Anyone who actually believed Trump to be Pro-LBGBTQ was a moron. I’m sorry but making Mike Pence his running mate. The ass kissing towards the religious right.

Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 12:52:01pm

From the last thread, on not caring about shipmates in the Navy’s personal lives, just caring they did their jobs:

re: #456 Franklin

Would you say that was common amongst your fellow servicemen?

Pretty much, except for evangelical Christians. They were pretty bad about thumping the Bible over doing their jobs. (As far as they saw it, their job was to evangelise, not do their military work.)

Dr. Matt Jul 26, 2017 • 12:52:01pm

Why exactly are we paying for his wall?

GlutenFreeJesus Jul 26, 2017 • 12:52:06pm

There are no transgenders in foxholes.

Mike Lamb Jul 26, 2017 • 12:52:31pm

re: #23 Ace Rothstein

Also, the tweet is particularly hilarious when you read the blurb that Trump was only going to maintain a policy started by Obama.

HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 12:52:34pm

It is well to remember though that pro-Trump gay wingnuts like Milo and Hoft are just as hateful to transpeople as your average wingnut though.

TedStriker Jul 26, 2017 • 12:52:49pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Yeah, she thinks she can be a voice for transgendered people within the Republican Party which is hilarious given that most Republicans can’t even acknowledge transgendered people as people.

Today’s tweetarrhea from Trump being a prime example of this.

HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 12:53:27pm

re: #37 Mike Lamb

Also, the tweet is particularly hilarious when you read the blurb that Trump was only going to maintain a policy started by Obama.

Obama by far is our most pro-LGBTQ president ever and it’s really not even close.

HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 12:53:43pm

re: #39 TedStriker

Today’s tweetarrhea from Trump being a prime example of this.

Exactly.

EPR-radar Jul 26, 2017 • 12:53:51pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Yeah, she thinks she can be a voice for transgendered people within the Republican Party which is hilarious given that most Republicans can’t even acknowledge transgendered people as people.

Jenner is a Republican quisling because her marginal tax rates are more important to her than other peoples’ lives.

Kragar Jul 26, 2017 • 12:54:02pm

re: #35 Dr. Matt

Why exactly are we paying for his wall?

How much insurance are the construction companies going to have to buy if they take the contracts?

Ace Rothstein Jul 26, 2017 • 12:54:09pm

re: #35 Dr. Matt

Why exactly are we paying for his wall?

A place to install the solar panels.
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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 12:54:55pm

re: #42 EPR-radar

Jenner is a Republican quisling because her marginal tax rates are more important to her than other peoples’ lives.

She’s a bigot too IIRC.

Dr Lizardo Jul 26, 2017 • 12:54:59pm

re: #29 Ace Rothstein

I’m so old, I remember when RWNJs lost their collective shit because Obama wore a tan suit.

DIJON MUSTARD!!!!

Mike Lamb Jul 26, 2017 • 12:55:07pm

Seriously, how will this even be implemented? Transgender soldiers/sailors now get dishonorable discharge? Can they simply discharge them honorably?

Ace Rothstein Jul 26, 2017 • 12:55:14pm

re: #43 Kragar

How much insurance are the construction companies going to have to buy if they take the contracts?

How much will it cost to fight every single eminent domain case in court?

Eclectic Cyborg Jul 26, 2017 • 12:55:18pm

Maybe Trump can give wall building gigs to out of work coal miners…

unproven innocence Jul 26, 2017 • 12:56:06pm

re: #44 Ace Rothstein

For solar panels.
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To be installed on the north side of the wall, so they won’t get broken so much.

Ace Rothstein Jul 26, 2017 • 12:56:29pm

re: #47 Mike Lamb

Seriously, how will this even be implemented? Transgender soldiers/sailors now get dishonorable discharge? Can they simply discharge them honorably?

An administration that was prepared would have had that part of the policy covered before tweeting it out.

Ace Rothstein Jul 26, 2017 • 12:57:00pm

re: #50 unproven innocence

To be installed on the north side of the wall, so they won’t get broken so much.

By the 60-pound bags of heroin being thrown over it.

Mike Lamb Jul 26, 2017 • 12:57:28pm

One more (until the next one)…I’m still in some state of shock that we have a President announcing major policy via Tweet…a policy that he clearly did NOT vet or discuss with anyone prior to announcing, regardless of what Huckabee-Sanders said. There’s probably at least 30 attorneys with substantial head-desk bruising in the White House and on Capitol Hill.

EPR-radar Jul 26, 2017 • 12:57:32pm

re: #49 Eclectic Cyborg

Maybe Trump can give wall building gigs to oit of work coal miners…

What I’d like to see is tr*mp et al. properly convicted of their crimes and sentenced to hard labor building a wall somewhere useful in a place that is hotter than hell and infested with snakes and scorpions.

HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 12:58:10pm

The Trump administration’s response of “The Dems will have to explain this to blue collar workers in the Rust Belt.” So wait I thought they voted you because of jobs. So you’re admitting that you think their prejudices or what you perceive their prejudices to be a reason to vote for you. Seems to me that this is still the same Republican Party that used fear of same sex marriage to re-elect Bush in 2004 and fear of minorities to elect Nixon and Reagan. I would hope that your average rust belt blue collar worker would realize that a transwoman or man who wants to esrve wants the same as him or her. To be treated with dignity and respect under the law. We’re pretty sure my grandfather’s brother was gay. He served honorably. in WWII.

petesh Jul 26, 2017 • 12:58:58pm

re: #54 EPR-radar

What I’d like to see is tr*mp et al. properly convicted of their crimes and sentenced to hard labor building a wall somewhere useful in a place that is hotter than hell and infested with snakes and scorpions.

Texas?

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 12:59:34pm

Trans airman SSgt Logan Ireland on Trump’s surprise ban: “I’d like to see them try to kick me out of my military.” https://t.co/A8C274NZrN pic.twitter.com/B9ztn02loP

— Stephen Losey (@StephenLosey) July 26, 2017

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Ace Rothstein Jul 26, 2017 • 12:59:39pm

re: #56 petesh

Texas?

Keep him out of my state.

Franklin Jul 26, 2017 • 12:59:53pm

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹

From the last thread, on not caring about shipmates in the Navy’s personal lives, just caring they did their jobs:

Pretty much, except for evangelical Christians. They were pretty bad about thumping the Bible over doing their jobs. (As far as they saw it, their job was to evangelise, not do their military work.)

Good to hear, and what I suspected. And thanks for your service.

FormerDirtDart Jul 26, 2017 • 1:00:33pm

Journalists, I know you’re scrambling for quotes, but keep this in mind: trans folks on Active Duty are terrified right now.

— Alexander McCoy (@AlexanderMcCoy4) July 26, 2017

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EPR-radar Jul 26, 2017 • 1:01:00pm

re: #53 Mike Lamb

One more (until the next one)…I’m still in some state of shock that we have a President announcing major policy via Tweet…a policy that he clearly did NOT vet or discuss with anyone prior to announcing, regardless of what Huckabee-Sanders said. There’s probably at least 30 attorneys with substantial head-desk bruising in the White House and on Capitol Hill.

tr*mp tweet #1: World War III has started…

(lengthy delay while tr*mp dumps a rage turd into the gold-plated White House shitter)

tr*mp tweet #2: … because David Brooks called me names in his NYT column.

The Pentagon would be greatly entertained by this situation, I’m sure.

Kragar Jul 26, 2017 • 1:01:25pm

The White House has released what they claim is the letter from Dylan: pic.twitter.com/Tte7wlUUpy

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GlutenFreeJesus Jul 26, 2017 • 1:01:32pm

We know who your god is, you pig. https://t.co/ubPE3TldZ5

— efuseakay (@efuseakay) July 26, 2017

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No Depression Jul 26, 2017 • 1:01:54pm

How do we know that 9-year old “Dylan” isn’t just another Trump alias?

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:01:55pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’d like someone to tell with a straight face why I’m a better fit for the military than Logan simply because I’m cis and he’s not.

Mike Lamb Jul 26, 2017 • 1:02:00pm

re: #55 HappyWarrior

They continue to break the idiocy meter if they think that explaining support for transgendered in the military to “blue collar workers in the Rust Belt” is a) something that would be difficult and/or b) something that Democrats would shy away from. It’s just moronic that they think this is a political winner for them.

TedStriker Jul 26, 2017 • 1:02:13pm

re: #47 Mike Lamb

Seriously, how will this even be implemented? Transgender soldiers/sailors now get dishonorable discharge? Can they simply discharge them honorably?

Given the circumstances, I can’t see Trump’s DoD cashiering out transgender soldiers/airmen/sailors/Marines at anything better than a general discharge, but I could be wrong.

Ace Rothstein Jul 26, 2017 • 1:02:29pm

re: #62 Kragar

It took them almost two months to release “Dylan’s” letter?

nines09 Jul 26, 2017 • 1:02:31pm

re: #64 No Depression

How do we know that 9-year old “Dylan” isn’t just another Trump alias?

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Must be “Jims” boy……………

HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:03:16pm

re: #66 Mike Lamb

They continue to break the idiocy meter if they think that explaining support for transgendered in the military to “blue collar workers in the Rust Belt” is a) something that would be difficult and/or b) something that Democrats would shy away from. It’s just moronic that they think this is a political winner for them.

You know what, I hope the Dems in those states do explain the issue to the voters there and I hope the voters respond resoundingly against Trump on this.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 1:03:17pm

The vote has barely begun and the Senate’s bill to repeal Obamacare with no replacement is already dead.

— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) July 26, 2017

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vote at the moment is 44-yes, 54-no

HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:03:46pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

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vote at the moment is 44-yes, 54-no

Some good news.

Decatur Deb Jul 26, 2017 • 1:03:59pm

re: #47 Mike Lamb

Seriously, how will this even be implemented? Transgender soldiers/sailors now get dishonorable discharge? Can they simply discharge them honorably?

The one sure way this is going to be implemented is “very slowly”. Shit this deep just can’t be shovelled through the system quickly. There is enough time for re-think.

Ace Rothstein Jul 26, 2017 • 1:04:03pm

re: #62 Kragar

A 9-year-old’s handwriting is not as terrible as “Dylan’s.”

Mike Lamb Jul 26, 2017 • 1:04:07pm

re: #62 Kragar

Oh come the fuck on.

FormerDirtDart Jul 26, 2017 • 1:04:20pm

BREAKING: Majority of Senate votes against Republican proposal to repeal Obamacare with two-year delay. https://t.co/4Gl2Su2Yy3 pic.twitter.com/Zalen26T8q

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Jack Burton Jul 26, 2017 • 1:04:49pm

re: #74 Ace Rothstein

A 9-year-old’s handwriting is not as terrible as “Dylan’s.”

Better handwriting than Clownstick though.

HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:04:58pm

Maybe the letter is legit. So Trump has a nine year old who looks up to him. There’s lots of nine year olds who fear being deported because of him.

Barefoot Grin Jul 26, 2017 • 1:05:12pm

Reminds me of this letter:

President Clinton to Joan Jett (The Onion)

Mike Lamb Jul 26, 2017 • 1:05:56pm

re: #67 TedStriker

Given the circumstances, I can’t see Trump’s DoD cashiering out transgender soldiers/sailors/Marines at anything better than a general discharge, but I could be wrong.

That feels like a slam dunk lawsuit for anyone at the receiving end of such a discharge.

nines09 Jul 26, 2017 • 1:05:57pm

The search for ‘Jim,’ Trump’s friend who — through Trump — blasted Paris on the campaign trail

Apparently he is now a General and has a boy named Dylan….

No Depression Jul 26, 2017 • 1:06:29pm

re: #60 FormerDirtDart

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So Trump just tanked active duty troop morale with only 3 tweets. Good job, President Dumbfuck!

HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:06:35pm

re: #81 nines09

The search for ‘Jim,’ Trump’s friend who — through Trump — blasted Paris on the campaign trail

Apparently he is now a General and has a boy named Dylan….

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 1:06:58pm

re: #59 Franklin

Good to hear, and what I suspected. And thanks for your service.

My usual response to the thanks is “thank you for allowing me to serve.” If Steve King gets his way that might not keep me from being deported to Poland, but the thought is nice, nonetheless.

Mike Lamb Jul 26, 2017 • 1:06:58pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Maybe the letter is legit. So Trump has a nine year old who looks up to him. There’s lots of nine year olds who fear being deported because of him.

The part about the Trump b-day with a cake shaped like Trump’s head seems a bit…much.

HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:07:27pm

You know what, I can understand someone being uncomfortable with trans or the concept but you know what, your discomfort shouldn’t get in the way of someone’s liberty.

HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:08:16pm

re: #85 Mike Lamb

The part about the Trump b-day with a cake shaped like Trump’s head seems a bit…much.

Yeah I hear you. I mean I was obsessed with the Presidents as a kid too(First Aspie obsession) but never crossed my mind to get a Clinton cake.

Kragar Jul 26, 2017 • 1:08:29pm

Photo of “Dylan” writing his letter: pic.twitter.com/nKaCvPrLvY

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 26, 2017

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Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 1:08:52pm

re: #79 Barefoot Grin

Reminds me of this letter:

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Sad, hoped this was real.

The Vicious Babushka Jul 26, 2017 • 1:09:22pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Consider this and the boy scout chants.

Now consider these are the same people who freaked the fuck out about a classroom of kids singing a song about Obama.

They crapped their pants full while posting memes of Stalin & that German guy surrounded by li’l children.

Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 1:09:38pm

re: #76 FormerDirtDart

#RepealDelayPlus2 we hardly knew ye.

A Mom Anon Jul 26, 2017 • 1:09:53pm

Honest to Christ this has got to be some of the stupidest shit ever. EVER. It’s designed to provoke violence, just like his remarks about the “slicing and dicing” of “beautiful young girls” by immigrants. Someone needs to keep knives and young girls away from this disgusting human IMAX screen. JHC.

These fucking morons think that transgender people look like badly dressed drag queens with their genitalia hanging out running around getting their “gay” all over everyone. When in actuality, those who are transitioned or are in the process actually (gasp, I know this is hard for some of these idiots to grasp, but…) look like our dumb culture’s idea of what male or female should look like. Most of us at one time or another have probably seen, been served by, been in restrooms with, or just walked by a transperson and never known the fucking difference.

It’s really to the point where this sack of orange play dough is just daring someone to stop his madness now. And can we, now and forever, dispense with the idea that some spoiled rich fuck, under the guise of “businessman” is in any form or fashion able or qualified to run a country anywhere but into the fucking ground? PLEASE?

GlutenFreeJesus Jul 26, 2017 • 1:10:03pm

re: #62 Kragar

That reads like a Trump executive order.

Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 1:10:08pm

re: #76 FormerDirtDart

Buh, bye, see ya later.

Skinny Repeal, c’mon down!

KGxvi Jul 26, 2017 • 1:10:36pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

You know what, I can understand someone being uncomfortable with trans or the concept but you know what, your discomfort shouldn’t get in the way of someone’s liberty.

It’s the old libertarian line about “your liberty extends only so far as it doesn’t interfere with mine, and vice versa.”

Or put another way, “does this concern you? No? Then STFU.”

Ace-o-aces Jul 26, 2017 • 1:10:37pm

Overheard at the Pentagon: “We’re taking orders via Twitter now?”

— Nancy Youssef, نانسى (@nancyayoussef) July 26, 2017

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 1:10:41pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

I’d like someone to tell with a straight face why I’m a better fit for the military than Logan simply because I’m cis and he’s not.

Because tab A fits into slot B or some such nonsense, not whether you can follow orders, or lead a formation, or drive a tank, or fire a naval gun, or repair an aircraft in the Air Force.

Tab A fits into slot B seems to be much of what conservatives are scared about, not whether we have an effective fighting force.

HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:10:57pm

re: #92 A Mom Anon

Honest to Christ this has got to be some of the stupidest shit ever. EVER. It’s designed to provoke violence, just like his remarks about the “slicing and dicing” of “beautiful young girls” by immigrants. Someone needs to keep knives and young girls away from this disgusting human IMAX screen. JHC.

These fucking morons think that transgender people look like badly dressed drag queens with their genitalia hanging out running around getting their “gay” all over everyone. When in actuality, those who are transitioned or are in the process actually (gasp, I know this is hard for some of these idiots to grasp, but…) look like our dumb culture’s idea of what male or female should look like. Most of us at one time or another have probably seen, been served by, been in restrooms with, or just walked by a transperson and never known the fucking difference.

It’s really to the point where this sack of orange play dough is just daring someone to stop his madness now. And can we, now and forever, dispense with the idea that some spoiled rich fuck, under the guise of “businessman” is in any form or fashion able or qualified to run a country anywhere but into the fucking ground? PLEASE?

They really think transgendered just means a man in a dress. You’re absolutely right about that.

HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:11:37pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

Because tab A fits into slot B or some such nonsense, not whether you can follow orders, or lead a formation, or drive a tank, or fire a naval gun, or repair an aircraft in the Air Force.

Tab A fits into slot B seems to be much of what conservatives are scared about, not whether we have an effective fighting force.

I mean maybe I’m jusl old fashioned but I think people who want to serve in the military should be able to serve in the military.

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:12:11pm

re: #95 KGxvi

It’s the old libertarian line about “your liberty extends only so far as it doesn’t interfere with mine, and vice versa.”

Or put another way, “does this concern you? No? Then STFU.”

Yep.

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Kragar Jul 26, 2017 • 1:12:56pm

The Pentagon didn’t get a heads-up on President Trump’s transgender decision.https://t.co/7FJAdX3fy2 via @WSJ

— Ben Kesling (@bkesling) July 26, 2017

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Mike Lamb Jul 26, 2017 • 1:13:16pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

You know what, I can understand someone being uncomfortable with trans or the concept but you know what, your discomfort shouldn’t get in the way of someone’s liberty.

How do they even know? Particularly if someone has gone through a complete transition.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 1:13:19pm

final vote: 45 yes, 55 no.

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ObserverArt Jul 26, 2017 • 1:13:23pm

re: #15 Jack Burton

So Dylan, why do you say that?

Because mommy and daddy told me.

I still believe in White Santa Claus, the White Easter Bunny, the White Tooth Fairy, and White English-speaking Jesus too.

I added a few extra “Whites” to your sentence. I think it necessary in this case.

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KGxvi Jul 26, 2017 • 1:13:28pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

Because tab A fits into slot B or some such nonsense, not whether you can follow orders, or lead a formation, or drive a tank, or fire a naval gun, or repair an aircraft in the Air Force.

Tab A fits into slot B seems to be much of what conservatives are scared about, not whether we have an effective fighting force.

Tab A fitting into Slot B is the only thing fundamentalists worry about.

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TedStriker Jul 26, 2017 • 1:14:40pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

final vote: 45 yes, 55 no.

I’m guessing McCain was in the ‘yes’ column?

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Franklin Jul 26, 2017 • 1:14:46pm

re: #105 KGxvi

Tab A fitting into Slot B is the only thing fundamentalists worry about.

And one day Billy, you can grow up to be Vice President! And have a loving wife you can call Mother.

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Decatur Deb Jul 26, 2017 • 1:15:10pm

re: #101 Kragar

The Pentagon didn’t get a heads-up on President Trump’s transgender decision.on.wsj.com via @WSJ

That’s not how any of this works.

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Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 1:15:20pm

re: #101 Kragar

Well, Trump’s “generals and military experts” should have told them.

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 1:15:55pm

re: #105 KGxvi

Tab A fitting into Slot B is the only thing fundamentalists worry about.

And then only under the right conditions (marriage).

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ObserverArt Jul 26, 2017 • 1:15:56pm

re: #29 Ace Rothstein

I’m so old, I remember when RWNJs lost their collective shit because Obama wore a tan suit.

Not only that…but the real problem was he looked damn good in it.

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 1:17:08pm

re: #111 ObserverArt

Not only that…but the real problem was he looked damn good in it.

He’s probably a better golfer as well. /s

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dangerman Jul 26, 2017 • 1:17:39pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“I have never described myself as trans; I’m a mother——ing Marine”

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wrenchwench Jul 26, 2017 • 1:17:39pm

re: #53 Mike Lamb

One more (until the next one)…I’m still in some state of shock that we have a President announcing major policy via Tweet…a policy that he clearly did NOT vet or discuss with anyone prior to announcing, regardless of what Huckabee-Sanders said. There’s probably at least 30 attorneys with substantial head-desk bruising in the White House and on Capitol Hill.

White House attorneys will be issued helmets…

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:17:53pm

re: #102 Mike Lamb

How do they even know? Particularly if someone has gone through a complete transition.

My transphobic friend insists you can always tell which is bullshit.

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Decatur Deb Jul 26, 2017 • 1:18:43pm

“Sergeant Major, I’ve been told I don’t work here any more.”

“Get your ass back in the turret.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 1:18:46pm

We welcome Cdns of all sexual orientations and gender identities. Join us! #DiversityIsOurStrength #ForcesJobs https://t.co/572KahN2Zh pic.twitter.com/9In7HR4Utj

— Canadian Forces (@CanadianForces) July 26, 2017

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 26, 2017 • 1:18:59pm

re: #101 Kragar

This was kind of what I feared might happen. Initially, it seemed as if maybe Trump would be at least somewhat awed by his responsibilities and start taking this shit seriously.

But as time has gone one, he has - inevitably - concluded he’s actually doing a FANTASTIC! job at it, and that if he ever had any concerns, they were silly.

And there’s the problem. It’s not that he doesn’t take the job seriously. It’s that he thinks this is what doing the job well looks like.

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ObserverArt Jul 26, 2017 • 1:19:13pm

re: #54 EPR-radar

What I’d like to see is tr*mp et al. properly convicted of their crimes and sentenced to hard labor building a wall somewhere useful in a place that is hotter than hell and infested with snakes and scorpions.

…and fire ants. Do not forget the fire ants.

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petesh Jul 26, 2017 • 1:19:19pm

re: #106 TedStriker

I’m guessing McCain was in the ‘yes’ column?

No! He mavericked his way to voting No on a bill that was going to lose anyway.

GOP no’s: Capito, Collins, Heller, McCain, Portman, Alexander, Murkowski

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EPR-radar Jul 26, 2017 • 1:19:24pm

re: #105 KGxvi

Tab A fitting into Slot B is the only thing fundamentalists worry about.

For RWNJs, Tab A is often some ridiculously large sex toy, judging by where in the country such things are most popular (i.e., the bible belt).

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Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 1:19:27pm

re: #53 Mike Lamb

One more (until the next one)…I’m still in some state of shock that we have a President announcing major policy via Tweet…a policy that he clearly did NOT vet or discuss with anyone prior to announcing, regardless of what Huckabee-Sanders said. There’s probably at least 30 attorneys with substantial head-desk bruising in the White House and on Capitol Hill.

In fairness, we have a POTUS tweeting insults at his own Attorney General. So everything is pretty much off the rails.

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Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 1:20:38pm

But Steve Bannon said all I had to do was tweet that the trannys were out of the military and that would be good enough, and to add the stuff about having “consulted” people.

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makeitstop Jul 26, 2017 • 1:20:51pm

re: #106 TedStriker

I’m guessing McCain was in the ‘yes’ column?

Surprise! He voted ‘no’ this time.

Sens. Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV), Susan Collins (R-ME), John McCain (R-AZ), Dean Heller (R-NV), Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), Lamar Alexander (R-TN) and Rob Portman (R-OH) all voted no.

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Hecuba's daughter Jul 26, 2017 • 1:21:30pm

So the straight Repeal also went down in flames 45-55 — and this time McCain voted on the right side. Let’s see what happens with the next bill they propose. What is it supposed to contain?

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EPR-radar Jul 26, 2017 • 1:21:36pm

re: #122 Sir John Barron

In fairness, we have a POTUS tweeting insults at his own Attorney General. So everything is pretty much off the rails.

tr*mp hasn’t started World War III yet. That’s the only remotely positive thing I can say about this administration.

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 1:21:58pm

re: #118 Blind Frog Belly White

This was kind of what I feared might happen. Initially, it seemed as if maybe Trump would be at least somewhat awed by his responsibilities and start taking this shit seriously.

But as time has gone one, he has - inevitably - concluded he’s actually doing a FANTASTIC! job at it, and that if he ever had any concerns, they were silly.

And there’s the problem. It’s not that he doesn’t take the job seriously. It’s that he thinks this is what doing the job well looks like.

I never feared Trump would come round. He’s seventy-one years old and has been a bigot all his life.

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makeitstop Jul 26, 2017 • 1:22:32pm

re: #125 Hecuba’s daughter

So the straight Repeal also went down in flames 45-55 — and this time McCain voted on the right side. Let’s see what happens with the next bill they propose. What is it supposed to contain?

I believe ‘Skinny Repeal’ is up next.

I’d be surprised if that did any better.

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EPR-radar Jul 26, 2017 • 1:23:14pm

re: #125 Hecuba’s daughter

So the straight Repeal also went down in flames 45-55 — and this time McCain voted on the right side. Let’s see what happens with the next bill they propose. What is it supposed to contain?

Shit, shit, eggs, bacon, shit, more shit, and shit bricks with a topping of foamy diarrhea. Would you like a side of deep fried shit slivers with that?

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dangerman Jul 26, 2017 • 1:23:20pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

You know what, I can understand someone being uncomfortable with trans or the concept but you know what, your discomfort shouldn’t get in the way of someone’s liberty.

cause being in the military is all about *your* personal comfort in all things

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Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 1:23:29pm

re: #124 makeitstop

Surprise! He voted ‘no’ this time.

Can’t wait for the POTUS tweets crying about GOP Senators who don’t have POTUS’ back.

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Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 1:24:02pm

re: #128 makeitstop

I believe ‘Skinny Repeal’ is up next.

I’d be surprised if that did any better.

I’m afraid the odds for this piece of crap are better, just so they can get something to conference and f0ck everybody over there.

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ObserverArt Jul 26, 2017 • 1:24:32pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

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vote at the moment is 44-yes, 54-no

Yay!

Give it up Mitch and gang. No wants it. And you’re getting to the point where you are such a joke at legislating that soon no one is going to want you.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 26, 2017 • 1:24:41pm

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹

I never feared Trump would come round. He’s seventy-one years old and has been a bigot all his life.

I am actually by nature an optimist, which seems odd for somebody who struggles constantly with anxiety.

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Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 1:24:59pm

re: #132 Sir John Barron

I’m afraid the odds for this piece of crap are better, just so they can get something to conference and f0ck everybody over there.

But let’s hope they eff this up, too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 1:25:05pm

Capito just voted no on the next amendment: to send the bill to committee to remove Medicaid language.
So much for all of her concern about West Virginians on Medicaid.

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Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 1:25:37pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

Capito just voted no on the next amendment: to send the bill to committee to remove Medicaid language.
So much for all of her concern about West Virginians on Medicaid.

Maybe that was to protect Medicaid. Her vote that is?

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Franklin Jul 26, 2017 • 1:25:54pm

Anyone know the schedule of the 20hrs debate? Did the “timer” run through the night or are they doing it based on “in-session” time?

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EPR-radar Jul 26, 2017 • 1:26:37pm

re: #132 Sir John Barron

I’m afraid the odds for this piece of crap are better, just so they can get something to conference and f0ck everybody over there.

That doesn’t bother me, since that would still be a written bill, which could be run against if it becomes law.

The idea that bothers me is if the Congressional Republicans get the bright idea of ceding all power over US health care to the department of HHS, which could then rule by decree arbitrarily and capriciously.

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FormerDirtDart Jul 26, 2017 • 1:28:00pm

The unusual process Mitch McConnell is employing created the opportunity for an unusual obstacle on the Senate floor https://t.co/oeLgEzyUZi

— The Intercept (@theintercept) July 26, 2017

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The GOP’s diabolical #healthcare bill raises premiums on children, women & vets. It must be stopped. That’s why I’m filing 100+ amendments. https://t.co/HeSpk5bXqu

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 1:28:18pm

the Medicaid amendment has 50 no votes so far.

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ObserverArt Jul 26, 2017 • 1:28:24pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

You know what, I can understand someone being uncomfortable with trans or the concept but you know what, your discomfort shouldn’t get in the way of someone’s liberty.

I’m uncomfortable with a rotund, arrogant, ignorant ass as President of the United States. And, he IS getting in the way of a lot of people’s liberty.

I think a discharge from office is in order.

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wrenchwench Jul 26, 2017 • 1:28:32pm

Too afraid to fire Sessions, Trump craps his pants pic.twitter.com/JeDqXanqx9

— jamia (@auntoona) July 26, 2017

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Charles Johnson Jul 26, 2017 • 1:28:38pm

BREAKING NEWS: Senate votes down straight Obamacare repeal 45-55. Keep calling[no phone numbers allowed]

— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) July 26, 2017

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 1:28:58pm

re: #80 Mike Lamb

That feels like a slam dunk lawsuit for anyone at the receiving end of such a discharge.

Military personnel may not sue the government. (Amongst other things, that prevents disorder within the ranks.)

A person who feels they were unjustly discharged can make an appeal to the review board of the appropriate service to fix/correct/protest a discharge.

archives.gov

The likely outcome (after a very long wait) would be that a person would have his or her discharge changed to Honorable/Convenience of the Government.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 1:29:07pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

the Medicaid amendment has 50 no votes so far.

and it just got another “no” so the amendment fails.

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Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 1:29:09pm

re: #140 FormerDirtDart

Is the Intercept complaining that none of the GOP pieces of crap healthcare bills will pass? Or am I being overly critical of that great center of journalistic integrity?

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lawhawk Jul 26, 2017 • 1:29:32pm

re: #62 Kragar

What are the odds Eric wrote it? Or Barron?

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Kragar Jul 26, 2017 • 1:30:02pm

Remember when pundits swore up and down that the weight & responsibilities of the office would change Trump? pic.twitter.com/4xjV28n0Vt

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 26, 2017

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makeitstop Jul 26, 2017 • 1:30:51pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

and it just got another “no” so the amendment fails.

Are these guys going to get tired of having their asses handed to them any time soon?

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No Depression Jul 26, 2017 • 1:31:42pm

re: #147 Sir John Barron

Is the Intercept complaining that none of the GOP pieces of crap healthcare bills will pass? Or am I being overly critical of that great center of journalistic integrity?

The article sounded pretty neutral to me.

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wheat-dogg Jul 26, 2017 • 1:33:53pm

re: #13 nines09

Dear Glorious Leader; I love you. I love you. But my mommy does not. That makes me sad. Can you take her away and get me a new mommy that loves you as I do? Please?
XOXOXOX
Sarah

This happens for real in North Korea. Kids squeal on their parents or other relatives.

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dangerman Jul 26, 2017 • 1:33:57pm

two more points on this nonsense:

….victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail. Thank you

the argument is the “cost”. not so much the “discomfort” of everyone else

and where does this “would entail” come from?

to overstate the obvious, there ARE transgenders in the military

demonstrate the “disruption” that is occurring now

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Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 1:34:06pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

So the GOP’s whole reason to be got 45 votes?

Impressive.

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Ace-o-aces Jul 26, 2017 • 1:34:06pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

And now the entire nation of Canada is openly mocking us. Well done America!

— aceoaces (@aceoaces) July 26, 2017

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 1:35:03pm

re: #134 Blind Frog Belly White

I am actually by nature an optimist, which seems odd for somebody who struggles constantly with anxiety.

I’m by nature an optimist as well … maybe that’s why I remain a pale blue dot in a very red House district.

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ObserverArt Jul 26, 2017 • 1:35:08pm

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹

And then only under the right conditions (marriage).

I think it goes a bit further than that. For procreation of Christian Children. No other conditions allowed.

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 26, 2017 • 1:35:16pm

re: #148 lawhawk

What are the odds Eric wrote it? Or Barron?

I don’t think Trump wrote it himself—too many complete sentences.

Maybe Mooch wrote it.

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The Vicious Babushka Jul 26, 2017 • 1:36:09pm

re: #152 wheat-dogg

This happens for real in North Korea. Kids squeal on their parents or other relatives.

Brave Little Pavlik Morosov, killed by the cruel Kulaks.

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makeitstop Jul 26, 2017 • 1:36:12pm

re: #154 Sir John Barron

So the GOP’s whole reason to be got 45 votes?

Impressive.

/

Not bad by any measure.
/////

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Myron Falwell Jul 26, 2017 • 1:36:31pm

re: #148 lawhawk

What are the odds Eric wrote it? Or Barron?

Could have been O’Reilly under his “Jack Mehoffer” pseudonym.

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wrenchwench Jul 26, 2017 • 1:36:35pm

re: #153 dangerman

two more points on this nonsense:

the argument is the “cost”. not so much the “discomfort” of everyone else

and where does this “would entail” come from?

to overstate the obvious, there ARE transgenders in the military

demonstrate the “disruption” that is occurring now

The disruption is inside the House!

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Scottish Dragon Jul 26, 2017 • 1:38:19pm

Trans hating Rod Dreher is tightening his chilice in celebration of Trumps trans ban over at The American Conservative. Trans people threaten western civilization it seems…

It is vitally important for Americans to understand that this is the world that many liberals, in particular those in charge of the Democratic Party, wish to bring into being. President Obama ordered the normalization of transgenderism in the US military, and brought about a policy that compelled the Pentagon to pay for sex-change operations for soldiers. It was the Obama administration that issued guidelines telling public schools nationwide that they must accommodate transgender students in every way, including giving them access to the locker rooms and bathrooms of their preferred gender….When I wrote here the other day that I believe the Democratic Party wants to tear down Western civilization, this is the kind of thing I was talking about. They are so radical that they want to re-engineer civilization from the ground up, even to the point of denying biological facts. In so doing, they are destroying the conditions necessary for a stable, thriving society.

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Myron Falwell Jul 26, 2017 • 1:38:34pm

re: #154 Sir John Barron

So the GOP’s whole reason to be got 45 votes?

Impressive.

/

Seven years of virulent rhetoric, and a torrent of psychological abuse thrown at all of us, and it all came down to that.

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Charles Johnson Jul 26, 2017 • 1:38:38pm

Must-Read By @oliverdarcy: Drudge was willing to turn on Bannon a couple years ago…will he turn on Trump next? https://t.co/P2eE1KGHUm

— Yashar Ali (@yashar) July 26, 2017

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Unlike WaPo and CNN: Drudge, Cernovich, other real journalists are independent and will call out Trump Administration when appropriate. https://t.co/Kz35ccYwI2

— Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸 (@Cernovich) July 26, 2017

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lolwut? Possibly the funniest right wing lie I’ve read today. https://t.co/wi2oYLVj3U

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 26, 2017

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Scottish Dragon Jul 26, 2017 • 1:39:24pm

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹

Military personnel may not sue the government. (Amongst other things, that prevents disorder within the ranks.)

A person who feels they were unjustly discharged can make an appeal to the review board of the appropriate service to fix/correct/protest a discharge.

archives.gov

The likely outcome (after a very long wait) would be that a person would have his or her discharge changed to Honorable/Convenience of the Government.

Civil rights law suits can still movie forward though. They will.

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 1:40:10pm

re: #157 ObserverArt

I think it goes a bit further than that. For procreation of Christian Children. No other conditions allowed.

Yup, they would strip my rights and those of my atheistic son in a second if they thought they could get away with it.

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Mike Lamb Jul 26, 2017 • 1:40:21pm

re: #163 Scottish Dragon

Trans hating Rod Dreher is tightening his chilice in celebration of Trumps trans ban over at The American Conservative. Trans people threaten western civilization it seems…

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“…even to the point of denying biological facts.” So. Fucking. Clueless.

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:40:58pm

re: #149 Kragar

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He’s gotten worse IMO.

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Scottish Dragon Jul 26, 2017 • 1:41:24pm

re: #168 Mike Lamb

“…even to the point of denying biological facts.” So. Fucking. Clueless.

Dreher has never been one to let pesky facts get in the way of his victimhood theories.

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:41:45pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

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In other words, you’ll only turn on him when you feel your being threatened by his actions, Mikey boy.

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dangerman Jul 26, 2017 • 1:42:10pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]Unlike WaPo and CNN: Drudge, Cernovich, other real journalists are independent and will call out Trump Administration when appropriate

so nothing “appropriate” yet?

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Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 1:42:11pm

re: #163 Scottish Dragon

Found this from 1947:

It is vitally important for Americans to understand that this is the world that many liberals, in particular those in charge of the Democratic Party, wish to bring into being. President Truman ordered the normalization of race-mixing in the US military, and brought about a policy that compelled the Pentagon to pay for medical care for black soldiers. It was the Truman administration that issued guidelines telling public schools nationwide that they must accommodate negro students in every way, including giving them access to the locker rooms and bathrooms of the white students….When I wrote here the other day that I believe the Democratic Party wants to tear down Western civilization, this is the kind of thing I was talking about. They are so radical that they want to re-engineer civilization from the ground up, even to the point of denying biological facts. In so doing, they are destroying the conditions necessary for a stable, thriving society.

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:42:33pm

re: #163 Scottish Dragon

Trans hating Rod Dreher is tightening his chilice in celebration of Trumps trans ban over at The American Conservative. Trans people threaten western civilization it seems…

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I’d love to see Rod who as far as I know never served say that to you, Kristen Beck, and the thousands of trans veterans out there.

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Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 1:43:09pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

Unlike WaPo and CNN: Drudge, Cernovich, other real journalists are independent and will call out Trump Administration when appropriate.
— Mike Cernovich

Good dog…..

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Kragar Jul 26, 2017 • 1:43:17pm

re: #169 HappyWarrior

He’s gotten worse IMO.

Power corrupts

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:43:20pm

re: #173 Sir John Barron

Found this from 1947:

To me, that was the moment the Democratic Party truly began to be a party for all Americans. Honorable mention to FDR’s EO desegregating war time industries.

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Scottish Dragon Jul 26, 2017 • 1:43:38pm

re: #173 Sir John Barron

Found this from 1947:

Perfect.

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:44:01pm

re: #178 Scottish Dragon

Perfect.

More things change, the more they stay the same alas.

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Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 1:44:21pm

re: #172 dangerman

so nothing “appropriate” yet?

If Trump does something liberal, sure.

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 1:44:21pm

re: #173 Sir John Barron

Found this from 1947:

Where did you find that? (Need to troll some wingnuts in E-mail)

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dangerman Jul 26, 2017 • 1:44:37pm

re: #173 Sir John Barron

Found this from 1947:

sometimes i am ashamed to be a member of the human race. (of which there is only one)

even of parts that came before me

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FormerDirtDart Jul 26, 2017 • 1:45:17pm

As an @RoyalNavy_LGBT champion and senior warfighter I am so glad we are not going this way https://t.co/S8ZI4NjpfQ

— Alex Burton (@RAdmAlexBurton) July 26, 2017

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So proud of our Transgender personnel. They bring #Diversity to our @RoyalNavy and I will always support their desire to serve their country https://t.co/PSLAEy6laR

— Second Sea Lord (@VAdmJWoodcock) July 26, 2017

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Ok we’re officially being trolled by the militaries of Canada and the UK right now. https://t.co/Lom0PS3DEP

— Aaron Mehta (@AaronMehta) July 26, 2017

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 26, 2017 • 1:45:28pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

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“Real journalists”? Oh, honey, no….

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Sir John Barron Jul 26, 2017 • 1:45:44pm

re: #181 Anymouse 🌹

Where did you find that? (Need to troll some wingnuts in E-mail)

I copied Dreher’s paragraph from Scottish Dragon in #163 and changed a few words.

Sorry for the confusion.

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Flying Squirrel Girl Jul 26, 2017 • 1:48:37pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

Your friend would lose his shit if he saw my co-worker at the next urinal in a men’s restroom: flawless makeup, large breasts, very feminine. And the thing that your transphobic friend has likely not considered when insisting that she frequent the bathroom that corresponds with the gender on her birth certificate — she’s into guys so she might be checkin’ him out as they stand side by side!

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wrenchwench Jul 26, 2017 • 1:48:42pm

Welcome, hatchling.

Day 6 of smooth greensnake hatching. Here is another hatchling scent trailing in a study site. @NatureMuseum pic.twitter.com/TLLphyG6jC

— Allison Sacerdote-Ve (@IamwithHerps) July 26, 2017

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Momkat56 Jul 26, 2017 • 1:49:35pm

from downstairs re Sessions

re: #148 Sir John Barron

Bless his heart (you know what that means to us Alabamians). He was in my father’s law school class, and Dad says nobody figured he’d amount to much. I guess infamous is better than no-famous.

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 1:49:47pm

re: #185 Sir John Barron

I copied Dreher’s paragraph from Scottish Dragon in #163 and changed a few words.

Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks for clearing that up. It’s sort of like the Missouri pastor video on YouTube where he brings up trolling opposition to an LGBT protection ordinance in Springfield, Mo. by invoking a segregationist speech used to oppose integration.

Searching … . here it is.

OFFICIAL Preacher Phil Snider gives interesting gay rights speech

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:50:16pm

re: #186 Flying Squirrel Girl

Your friend would lose his shit if he saw my co-worker at the next urinal in a men’s restroom: flawless makeup, large breasts, very feminine. And the thing that your transphobic friend has likely not considered when insisting that she frequent the bathroom that corresponds with the gender on her birth certificate — she’s into guys so she might be checkin’ him out as they stand side by side!

Yep, he’s a good friend and all but man he’s an idiot and bigot on this issue.

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dangerman Jul 26, 2017 • 1:50:43pm

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

repost from downstairs:

[Embedded content]WATCH: White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders is asked why Pentagon was surprised by Trump transgender tweets.

some people over there have to think he’s unstable
else why would they be worried for 9 minutes?
after all it’s “just twitter”

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Semper Fi Jul 26, 2017 • 1:50:59pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

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Senators representing more than 40 of our 50 states don’t think their people should have access to affordable health care. That is incredibly insensitive and even cruel.

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Kragar Jul 26, 2017 • 1:51:32pm

Congratulations to @SenateMajLdr for moving it along in the Senate. We have a GOP president NOW to sign repeal/replace. Let’s get it done!

— Eric Cantor (@EricCantor) July 26, 2017

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The fact that Trump would actually sign it is why it can’t pass the Senate now. https://t.co/D04ir3sQU9

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) July 26, 2017

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 1:52:24pm

Cassidy from Louisiana is now pulling bullshit numbers out of his ass claiming that NY, Massachusetts and California get twice as much money from ACA than the other states.

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TedStriker Jul 26, 2017 • 1:52:41pm

re: #193 Kragar

STFU, Eric…

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wrenchwench Jul 26, 2017 • 1:53:30pm

Here we go:

Bundy Ranch Gunman Sentenced To 68 Years In Prison https://t.co/sKlmiCNeDk

— Amanda Peacher (@amandapeacher) July 26, 2017

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[…]

Chief U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro in Las Vegas knocked a few years off the maximum recommended sentence of 73 years, after acknowledging Wednesday that 53-year-old Gregory Burleson has serious health issues and once was an informant for the FBI.

[…]

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 1:53:38pm

re: #189 Anymouse 🌹

Thanks for clearing that up. It’s sort of like the Missouri pastor video on YouTube where he brings up trolling opposition to an LGBT protection ordinance in Springfield, Mo. by invoking a segregationist speech used to oppose integration.

Searching … . here it is.

[Embedded content]

Video

Man, I doubt the Reverend drinks but I’d buy him a round for that, because that was brilliant.

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makeitstop Jul 26, 2017 • 1:53:55pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cassidy from Louisiana is now pulling bullshit numbers out of his ass claiming that NY, Massachusetts and California get twice as much money from ACA than the other states.

The ones that never set up exchanges, maybe.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 1:54:24pm

Cassidy just said that in Massachusetts, each person gets $18,000.
WTF is he talking about?

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 26, 2017 • 1:54:48pm

re: #186 Flying Squirrel Girl

Your friend would lose his shit if he saw my co-worker at the next urinal in a men’s restroom: flawless makeup, large breasts, very feminine. And the thing that your transphobic friend has likely not considered when insisting that she frequent the bathroom that corresponds with the gender on her birth certificate — she’s into guys so she might be checkin’ him out as they stand side by side!

Their expectation of trans women is they all look like ugly men in drag. Trans men? I bet that concept doesn’t really even seep into their consciousness - or they’d never want them using the women’s restroom!

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GlutenFreeJesus Jul 26, 2017 • 1:54:50pm

Did any of you notice. Nobody is talking about Russia today.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 26, 2017 • 1:55:32pm

re: #198 makeitstop

The ones that never set up exchanges, maybe.

Or expanded Medicaid.

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Kragar Jul 26, 2017 • 1:56:37pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cassidy from Louisiana is now pulling bullshit numbers out of his ass claiming that NY, Massachusetts and California get twice as much money from ACA than the other states.

Louisiana rates 12th on the list of states most dependent on Federal Tax dollars

NY, MA, and CA rank 34, 43, and 46th.

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nines09 Jul 26, 2017 • 1:56:57pm

re: #152 wheat-dogg

This happens for real in North Korea. Kids squeal on their parents or other relatives.

I have no doubt. It has happened throughout history. Trump is that kind of cancer. His malignancy is ultimately fatal to others.

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 1:57:02pm

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cassidy just said that in Massachusetts, each person gets $18,000.
WTF is he talking about?

Mass., NY, Calif. Three very high population states. I would expect those states to get more in subsidies than my own simply because of population (or his, for that matter).

$18,000? Where is this ACA so I can sign up? /s

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Dr Lizardo Jul 26, 2017 • 1:57:14pm

re: #201 GlutenFreeJesus

Did any of you notice. Nobody is talking about Russia today.

Yeah………..maybe this is why: (autoplay vid embedded at link, btw)

Russia threatened to retaliate against new sanctions passed by the U.S. House of Representatives, saying they made it all but impossible to achieve the Trump administration’s goal of improved relations.

The measures push U.S.-Russia ties into uncharted territory and “don’t leave room for the normalization of relations” in the foreseeable future, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said Wednesday, according to the Interfax news service.

Hope “is dying” for improved relations because the scale of “the anti-Russian consensus in Congress makes dialogue impossible and for a long time,” Konstantin Kosachyov, chairman of the international affairs committee in Russia’s upper house of parliament, said on Facebook. Russia should prepare a response to the sanctions that’s “painful for the Americans,” he said.

The bill, passed by a vote of 419-3 on Tuesday, would strengthen sanctions against Russia less than three weeks after President Donald Trump and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin held their first official meeting at the Group of 20 summit. The measure, which now goes to the Senate, would let Congress block any effort by Trump to unilaterally weaken sanctions imposed under the Obama administration for Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential elections and its support for separatists in Ukraine. The White House has sent mixed signals about whether Trump will sign the bill.

bloomberg.com

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lawhawk Jul 26, 2017 • 1:57:41pm

re: #203 Kragar

And NY, CA, NJ, and MA have typically given far more revenue to the feds than have gotten in return - in effect subsidizing low tax states like TX and FL.

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EPR-radar Jul 26, 2017 • 1:57:42pm

re: #201 GlutenFreeJesus

Did any of you notice. Nobody is talking about Russia today.

The media can and will be temporarily distracted from the Russia mess, but they will come back to it.

Mueller doesn’t seem like the type to be distracted by anything, and that’s what the tr*mp crime family most fears.

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Skip Intro Jul 26, 2017 • 1:57:53pm

re: #62 Kragar

I think that’s Eric Trump’s handwriting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 1:58:12pm

Graham now continuing with Cassidy’s bullshit numbers.

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GlutenFreeJesus Jul 26, 2017 • 1:58:31pm

When my Black Hawk helicopter was shot down, I didn’t care about the gender identity of the Soldiers who were risking their lives to save me

— Tammy Duckworth (@SenDuckworth) July 26, 2017

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 1:58:32pm

Graham wants block grants to the states.

DRINK!

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 1:59:20pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

Graham now continuing with Cassidy’s bullshit numbers.

Their minds are made up; they won’t let pesky liberal things like “facts” or “statistics” get in the way of conservative religion.

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Decatur Deb Jul 26, 2017 • 2:01:18pm

re: #196 wrenchwench

Here we go:

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He’ll be missed.

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Semper Fi Jul 26, 2017 • 2:01:28pm

re: #201 GlutenFreeJesus

Did any of you notice. Nobody is talking about Russia today.

Every day is more sensational than the day before. If Sessions doesn’t resign soon Trump might create a diversion with the NORKS. He likes diversions.

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Dr Lizardo Jul 26, 2017 • 2:01:29pm

Good night Lizards. Another day tomorrow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 2:02:00pm

what Cassidy and Graham fail to say is that those states not getting as much ACA funding are the ones that failed to participate in Medicaid expansion or even state level exchanges.

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Weaselone Jul 26, 2017 • 2:02:14pm

re: #207 lawhawk

And NY, CA, NJ, and MA have typically given far more revenue to the feds than have gotten in return - in effect subsidizing low tax states like TX and FL.

I believe Texas is also a net donor state.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 2:04:10pm

JFC, Graham is just nutz

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Stanley Sea Jul 26, 2017 • 2:04:32pm

re: #201 GlutenFreeJesus

Did any of you notice. Nobody is talking about Russia today.

NEW: DOJ says former Manafort associate, Dmytro Firtash, is an “upper-echelon” associate of Russian Organized Crime https://t.co/mpPd21CpW9 pic.twitter.com/3lHfOPXeAj

— Tom Winter (@Tom_Winter) July 26, 2017

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This is a big deal: https://t.co/2CjRh88tgM

— Garrett M. Graff (@vermontgmg) July 26, 2017

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Scottish Dragon Jul 26, 2017 • 2:05:21pm

I guess I got too shrill on twitter. Banned for 12 hours for using harsh language at people who think I never should have been allowed in the military.

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ObserverArt Jul 26, 2017 • 2:07:16pm

re: #168 Mike Lamb

“…even to the point of denying biological facts.” So. Fucking. Clueless.

When Fundies go into things like ‘biological facts” I have to ask why many are fine with artificial insemination, in vitro fertilization and other unnatural acts?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 2:07:56pm

‘Dancing with the Stars’ wants Sean Spicer | Page Six https://t.co/tsewqSkTq2

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) July 26, 2017

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i was going to make a dancing with the stars dead end career joke then remembered the last contestant ended up as Energy Secretary https://t.co/zkDV0IdPKx

— darth:™ (@darth) July 26, 2017

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FormerDirtDart Jul 26, 2017 • 2:07:58pm

A longer thread that I feel should be shared in it’s entirety:

1 Regarding the military transgender ban, the argument seems to revolve around supposed threats to military effectiveness, cost, etc.

— Phil Klay (@PhilKlay) July 26, 2017

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2 If people really care about those things, they should pressure Congress to pass a budget on time.

3 The SecDef recently noted that by failing to pass a budget, Congress had “sidelined itself from its active constitutional oversight role.

4 blocked new programs, prevented service growth, stalled industry initiative and placed troops at greater risk.” thehill.com

5 Meanwhile, RAND estimates transgender troops would represent a 0.04- to 0.13-percent increase in active-component health care expenditures

6 and under “0.1% of the total force would seek transition-related care that could disrupt their ability to deploy.” rand.org

7 The ban doesn’t help the military, and probably stigmatizes the military as a retrograde institution to the younger generation

8 we’re trying to recruit, and who hold much more progressive views of transgender people than older generations.

9 So, I don’t buy that any of these folks really care so much about military effectiveness.

10 What this does do is divide up we see as full citizens, and who we don’t.

11 Military service is, for many Americans, the highest expression of citizenship, and it has been for a long time.

12 This is why black veterans were seen as a threat to white supremacists, and why they were aggressively targeted. eji.org

13 One Ohio congressmen argued against allowing African-Americans to serve during the Civil War because:

14 “If you make [the black man] the instrument by which your battles are fought, the means by which your victories are won…

15 …you must treat him as a victor is entitled to be treated, with all decent and becoming respect.”

16 Indeed.

17 I don’t believe in carving out segments of the democratic rock, and scorning their willingness to sacrifice on our behalf.

18 I suspect the fear here isn’t that transgender people will hurt the military, but that transgender people will succeed,

19 and show themselves worthy of the respect and dignity they are due as equal citizens.

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wrenchwench Jul 26, 2017 • 2:08:03pm

What it will do is cost taxpayers billions, take private property, destroy natural habitats & cause lasting shame for this country

— Beto O’Rourke (@BetoORourke) July 26, 2017

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Skip Intro Jul 26, 2017 • 2:09:35pm

re: #225 wrenchwench

I guess everyone has forgotten by now that Trump said Mexico would pay for it around 1000 times during the campaign.

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 2:09:57pm

re: #225 wrenchwench

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I really hope he beats Cruz. The future is bright for him.

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 2:10:35pm

re: #226 Skip Intro

I guess everyone has forgotten by now that Trump said Mexico would pay for it around 1000 times during the campaign.

It was a big part of his whole campaign. Fucking dumbasses actually belieevd him.

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dangerman Jul 26, 2017 • 2:10:35pm

re: #222 ObserverArt

When Fundies go into things like ‘biological facts” I have to ask why mjany are fine with artificial insemination, invitro fertilization and other unnatural acts?

Vitamins
“Anti”-biotics
Surgery
Glasses

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 2:11:45pm

re: #218 Weaselone

I believe Texas is also a net donor state.

Texas is ranked 35th most dependent. Red states less dependent are Nebraska, Utah, and Kansas.

wallethub.com

(Link includes methodology on arriving at those numbers)

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 2:12:33pm

re: #222 ObserverArt

When Fundies go into things like ‘biological facts” I have to ask why mjany are fine with artificial insemination, invitro fertilization and other unnatural acts?

A great number of fundamentalists want to ban those things.

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Scottish Dragon Jul 26, 2017 • 2:12:35pm

re: #224 FormerDirtDart

Note what I quoted from Dreher above on his fear of trans people being ‘normalized’.

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Flying Squirrel Girl Jul 26, 2017 • 2:12:48pm

re: #227 HappyWarrior

I will vote as many times as I can for him! :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 2:13:23pm

Inhofe whining about not having enough time to whine about how insurance premiums in Oklahoma have tripled….

good grief.

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dangerman Jul 26, 2017 • 2:13:26pm

re: #228 HappyWarrior

It was a big part of his whole campaign. Fucking dumbasses actually belieevd him.

And still won’t call him out on it

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 2:14:02pm

re: #235 dangerman

And still won’t call him out on it

Nope, they won’t because they’re a cult.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 2:14:26pm

now Inhofe is stuttering about how great Sessions is and how successful he has been as AG so far.

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 2:14:51pm

re: #235 dangerman

And still won’t call him out on it

Well, there’s that fellow down the road from here with the giant Trump sign he made during the campaign for his ranch that now has “LIAR” handpainted across both sides… .

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 26, 2017 • 2:14:56pm

re: #222 ObserverArt

When Fundies go into things like ‘biological facts” I have to ask why mjany are fine with artificial insemination, invitro fertilization and other unnatural acts?

You know, it really all goes back to the basic inability of Conservatives to comprehend that anyone’s experience might be different from their own.

The most important thing I learned in Couples Therapy is that you can’t see into anyone else’s head. You cannot presume to know what they feel, or think, or experience. So, while transgender is outside my experience, I realize that I have absolutely no ground to stand on to even have an opinion on anyone’s gender identity.

But if you lack the ability to understand that we’re not all the same, you can only assume that they FEEL LIKE you do, but CHOOSE TO act differently.

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ObserverArt Jul 26, 2017 • 2:15:09pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

More things change, the more they stay the same alas.

Wait what is going on? It almost seems like the original was “borrowed” for the new Rod Dreher diatribe and some of the words and phrases. Is Sir John messing with us in #173?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 2:15:37pm

Inhofe says that Sessions single-handedly faced down the KKK and desegregated Alabama.

O_o

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines Jul 26, 2017 • 2:15:50pm

Facebook Post

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ObserverArt Jul 26, 2017 • 2:16:29pm

re: #185 Sir John Barron

I copied Dreher’s paragraph from Scottish Dragon in #163 and changed a few words.

Sorry for the confusion.

Ah ha!

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dangerman Jul 26, 2017 • 2:17:02pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

Nope, they won’t because they’re a cult.

Think of it though

Mexico will pay….. Vote vote vote

Forget I ever said Mexico.we’ll just take the billions from you instead. From higher taxes or deficits I don’t care

Crickets

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 2:17:13pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

Inhofe says that Sessions single-handedly faced down the KKK and desegregated Alabama.

O_o

Well, if you’re going to lie, go big or stay home I guess.

I’m really glad I don’t live in Oklahoma any more.

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Decatur Deb Jul 26, 2017 • 2:17:14pm

re: #226 Skip Intro

I guess everyone has forgotten by now that Trump said Mexico would pay for it around 1000 times during the campaign.

No problem. Send anyone who votes for it a Mexican visa and a sombrero.

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Mike Lamb Jul 26, 2017 • 2:18:11pm

re: #222 ObserverArt

When Fundies go into things like ‘biological facts” I have to ask why mjany are fine with artificial insemination, invitro fertilization and other unnatural acts?

It’s not even about IVF or other things of that nature…it’s about the fact that gender isn’t some genetically binary construct, whether we are talking about humans or other animals. It’s fluid, a continuum. And these assholes dare to talk about biological facts as it relates to gender.

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FormerDirtDart Jul 26, 2017 • 2:19:18pm

.@POTUS, can you my spot the transgender troops in this photo? They’re there, I promise. pic.twitter.com/XHGdQ6MjWl

— VoteVets (@votevets) July 26, 2017

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ObserverArt Jul 26, 2017 • 2:20:58pm

re: #201 GlutenFreeJesus

Did any of you notice. Nobody is talking about Russia today.

Not quite true. There is a lot of talk about Jeff Sessions. That is very Russia related.

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Ace-o-aces Jul 26, 2017 • 2:21:04pm

Trump’s White House is like hanger-on infested Graceland with less racquetball. pic.twitter.com/Fsv6FGDx8Z

— Schooley (@Rschooley) July 26, 2017

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 2:22:01pm

re: #244 dangerman

Think of it though

Mexico will pay….. Vote vote vote

Forget I ever said Mexico.we’ll just take the billions from you instead. From higher taxes or deficits I don’t care

Crickets

The Dems need to exploit that big time.

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FormerDirtDart Jul 26, 2017 • 2:22:23pm

Koch brother allies are arranging to plant questions at town hall meetings to push members of Congress on tax reform https://t.co/HYGgwEe3eB

— The Intercept (@theintercept) July 26, 2017

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“Next question is from Chuck & Dave, who own a local small business.”
…
“Congressman, will you cut taxes on our Luxembourg subsidiary?” https://t.co/WR7ASCsjMj

— Seth Hanlon (@SethHanlon) July 26, 2017

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Charles Johnson Jul 26, 2017 • 2:22:44pm

I only see your mindless drivel when it appears in my timeline from somebody else, Mr. Pizzagate.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 26, 2017

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FormerDirtDart Jul 26, 2017 • 2:24:48pm

They believed killing the mandate would bring “unnecessary risks and avoidable uncertainties…hostile to…safety & welfare of the Nation” pic.twitter.com/c16umm0Xmi

— Mike Sacks (@MikeSacksEsq) July 26, 2017

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A reminder of how integral the individual mandate is to the ACA, from the dissenters on the Supreme Court https://t.co/vQzyEn6NEM

— Garance Franke-Ruta (@thegarance) July 26, 2017

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 26, 2017 • 2:24:57pm

re: #247 Mike Lamb

It’s not even about IVF or other things of that nature…it’s about the fact that gender isn’t some genetically binary construct, whether we are talking about humans or other animals. It’s fluid, a continuum. And these assholes dare to talk about biological facts as it relates to gender.

Humans like discrete categories, but nature provides spectra. This is especially true of conservatives, particularly the Talibangelicals, who divide the world in to US and THEM, Good and Evil, Right and Wrong, Male and Female, etc.

You can see it in how they look at guns - you’re a law abiding, responsible gun owner right up until you shoot someone, or your gun goes off and kills someone, or somebody’s kid kills someone with your gun. In that instant, you become Never-A-Responsible-Gunowner.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 26, 2017 • 2:27:38pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

Inhofe says that Sessions single-handedly faced down the KKK and desegregated Alabama.

O_o

That was after he wrassled that grizzly bear and threw a silver dollar across the Potomac, I suppose.

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Charles Johnson Jul 26, 2017 • 2:27:53pm

I have to admit, though - I didn’t think it was possible, but there are people more dimwitted than you: your followers.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 26, 2017

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Decatur Deb Jul 26, 2017 • 2:30:34pm

re: #256 Blind Frog Belly White

That was after he wrassled that grizzly bear and threw a silver dollar across the Potomac, I suppose.

Sessions got the death penalty for a klan leader who pulled a lynching. It was a no-brainer. (And he loves him some death penalty.)

nytimes.com

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 26, 2017 • 2:32:11pm

re: #258 Decatur Deb

Sessions got the death penalty for a klan leader who pulled a lynching. I(t was a no-brainer. (And he loves him some death penalty.)

nytimes.com

“God-dang it Jimmy-Joe-Bob! You’re not supposed to get caught! Now I gotta get you hung!”

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retired cynic Jul 26, 2017 • 2:32:23pm

Quoting a commentator from WaPo:

Leonard Pitts (Miami Herald) nails it:

“This has been said a million times: Donald Trump is a lying, narcissistic, manifestly incompetent child man who is as dumb as a sack of mackerel. But he is the president of the United States because 63 million people preferred that to facing inevitable cultural change. So I am done asking — or caring — what’s wrong with him. Six months in, it’s time we grappled a far more important question.

What in the world is wrong with us?”

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ObserverArt Jul 26, 2017 • 2:33:36pm

re: #253 Charles Johnson

Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸 ✔ @Cernovich
You read me, I don’t even know you exist until you beg for my attention.

Says it all.

Must-Read By @oliverdarcy: Drudge was willing to turn on Bannon a couple years ago…will he turn on Trump next? https://t.co/P2eE1KGHUm

— Yashar Ali (@yashar) July 26, 2017

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Unlike WaPo and CNN: Drudge, Cernovich, other real journalists are independent and will call out Trump Administration when appropriate. https://t.co/Kz35ccYwI2

— Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸 (@Cernovich) July 26, 2017

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lolwut? Possibly the funniest right wing lie I’ve read today. https://t.co/wi2oYLVj3U

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 26, 2017

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…

Oh yeah. If he is treating you like you don’t exist, then he wouldn’t have responded now would he?

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Big Beautiful Door Jul 26, 2017 • 2:34:10pm

re: #254 FormerDirtDart

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The GOP has no interest in actual healthcare policy. The individual mandate polls badly, therefore if they can’t do anything else they can repeal the mandate so they can have a Rose Garden signing ceremony, never mind the catastrophic effect it could have people’s access to health insurance. Trump needs a win!

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 2:35:31pm

Russ “but her E-mails” Douthat on Trump:

Trump hasn’t had a stroke or suffered a neurological disaster, and his behavior in the White House is no different from the behavior he manifested consistently while winning enough votes to take the presidency.

But he is nonetheless clearly impaired, gravely deficient somewhere at the intersection of reason and judgment and conscience and self-control. Pointing this out is wearying and repetitive, but still it must be pointed out.

You can be as loyal as Jeff Sessions and still suffer the consequences of that plain and inescapable truth: This president should not be the president, and the sooner he is not, the better.

nytimes.com

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Charles Johnson Jul 26, 2017 • 2:35:33pm

This is Cassie. She is a college pup. Studying international doggo communication and stick theory. 14/10 so elegant much sophisticate pic.twitter.com/t1bfwz5S2A

— WeRateDogs™ (@dog_rates) July 26, 2017

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 2:35:49pm

re: #260 retired cynic

Quoting a commentator from WaPo:

So true. Our system elected him after all.

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Charles Johnson Jul 26, 2017 • 2:37:36pm

.@RandPaul: “It’s a victory for conservatives that we did get a vote for a clean repeal.” pic.twitter.com/CoY9qn3Kbq

— Fox News (@FoxNews) July 26, 2017

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You had a vote for clean repeal like 50 times over the last 7 years you goober https://t.co/77AO7qYx5Q

— Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) July 26, 2017

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nines09 Jul 26, 2017 • 2:38:23pm

Jeff Sessions Urges Melania to Work Harder on Campaign to Stop Cyberbullying

Sounds like a cry for help to me….

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Big Beautiful Door Jul 26, 2017 • 2:38:27pm

re: #260 retired cynic

Quoting a commentator from WaPo:

Same thing that was wrong with us 150 years ago. White Supremacy is our original sin, and we are going to keep paying the price for it until its permanently extricated from the national soul.

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 2:41:10pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

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Heh what a loser.

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Big Beautiful Door Jul 26, 2017 • 2:41:46pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

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The comments are hilarious! “Giving yourselves a participation trophy!”

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 26, 2017 • 2:42:22pm

re: #262 Big Beautiful Door

The GOP has no interest in actual healthcare policy. The individual mandate polls badly, therefore if they can’t do anything else they can repeal the mandate so they can have a Rose Garden signing ceremony, never mind the catastrophic effect it could have people’s access to health insurance. Trump needs a win!

The individual mandate polls badly because they decided to use it to demonize the ACA. When they came up with the idea in the first place, as the ‘Individual Responsibility Mandate’, it was the REPUBLICAN idea to balance the needs of insurers with the Democrats’ desire to provide coverage for preexisting conditions and no lifetime caps.

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Charles Johnson Jul 26, 2017 • 2:43:13pm

Louie Gohmert joins the conversation in House Judiciary, saying Bob Mueller should recuse himself from the Mueller probe.

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) July 26, 2017

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GOHMERT! https://t.co/4d4pi5sZJk

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 26, 2017

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Decatur Deb Jul 26, 2017 • 2:43:34pm

re: #267 nines09

Jeff Sessions Urges Melania to Work Harder on Campaign to Stop Cyberbullying

Sounds like a cry for help to me….

She could reduce cyberbullying considerably by putting a 4-inch heel through hubby’s phone.

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BeachDem Jul 26, 2017 • 2:43:34pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

Graham wants block grants to the states.

DRINK!

Of course he does—nobody can waste money like South Carolina Republicans can waste money. (BTW—this idiot state turned down the Medicaid expansion money—‘cause we have such a healthy, prosperous bunch of folks. SC ranks 42nd in health outcomes.)

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wrenchwench Jul 26, 2017 • 2:44:29pm

re: #268 Big Beautiful Door

Same thing that was wrong with us 150 years ago. White Supremacy is our original sin, and we are going to keep paying the price for it until its permanently extricated from the national soul.

It looked like we were extricating with our last president. I didn’t see the huge backlash coming. Now we need to work on it even harder.

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Charles Johnson Jul 26, 2017 • 2:44:55pm

Why do you think the GOP is trying to ram it through?

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 26, 2017

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nines09 Jul 26, 2017 • 2:45:04pm

re: #273 Decatur Deb

She could reduce cyberbullying considerably by putting a 4-inch heel through hubby’s phone.

Turn Federal evidence and we would build statues of her.

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wheat-dogg Jul 26, 2017 • 2:46:24pm

WaPo has its report on this behind its paywall, so I’ll summarize it thusly.

The NAACP thinks charter schools can be great, but they are no substitute for well-funded, quality public schools.

“while high quality, accountable and accessible charters can contribute to educational opportunity, by themselves, even the best charters are not a substitute for more stable, adequate and equitable investments in public education in the communities that serve our children.”

IOW, the NAACP’s task force learned what a lot of we educators have been saying for years: charter schools are not a solution to poor performing public schools. They only divert resources away from public education. There are some very good charters, such as the KiPP schools, but most are no better than regular public schools in terms of student performance on standardized exams. Their main success is in segregating public schools, which is no doubt why Betsy DeVos thinks they are hot shit.

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ObserverArt Jul 26, 2017 • 2:46:26pm

re: #272 Charles Johnson

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There is a lot of competition for the most dense congressperson currently. So Louie has to make sure he ices this.

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TedStriker Jul 26, 2017 • 2:48:33pm

re: #273 Decatur Deb

She could reduce cyberbullying considerably by putting a 4-inch heel through hubby’s phone.

Melania does that, and the orange shitgibbon ships her back to Slovenia.

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 2:48:38pm

re: #278 wheat-dogg

WaPo has its report on this behind its paywall, so I’ll summarize it thusly.

The NAACP thinks charter schools can be great, but they are no substitute for well-funded, quality public schools.

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IOW, the NAACP’s task force learned what a lot of we educators have been saying for years: charter schools are not a solution to poor performing public schools. They only divert resources away from public education. There are some very good charters, such as the KiPP schools, but most are no better than regular public schools in terms of student performance on standardized exams. Their main success is in segregating public schools, which is no doubt why Betsy DeVos thinks they are hot shit.

Public education historically has been the great equalizer for much of the country. Instead of trying to weaken public education, we should be trying to strengthen them. By the way, on a side note I recently reconnected with my 11th grade philosophy teacher. Loved that guy. He’s got a book due out and he was the best ever at playing devil’s advocate. I suspected he leaned liberal in his personal beliefs but he neve rwore them on his sleeves.

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FormerDirtDart Jul 26, 2017 • 2:48:50pm

IN AMERICA WE DON’T WORSHIP GOVERNMENT - WE WORSHIP GOD!🎥https://t.co/jIejSgVnnA

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 26, 2017

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CAN I GET AN ALLAHU AKBAR https://t.co/mSM0VTb3YY

— Hend Amry (@LibyaLiberty) July 26, 2017

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 26, 2017 • 2:49:16pm

re: #263 Anymouse 🌹

Russ “but her E-mails” Douthat on Trump:

Trump hasn’t had a stroke or suffered a neurological disaster, and his behavior in the White House is no different from the behavior he manifested consistently while winning enough votes to take the presidency.

I’m quoting this bit because again today, I saw someone posting a bit from a Trump interview from decades ago. I read one of his answers aloud to Mrs. FBW, and we were both astonished that this is the same guy who gave that frighteningly incoherent interview to the NYT last week. He used to speak in sentences and paragraphs, and was able to stay on the topic through the whole answer.

Now? It’s like words and ideas are buzzing around in his head and he’s grasping at them as he speaks, and whichever one he catches in that moment is what he says.

I really think he’s suffering some form of dementia.

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Big Beautiful Door Jul 26, 2017 • 2:50:01pm

re: #280 TedStriker

Melania does that, and the orange shitgibbon ships her back to Slovenia.

Since she lied about working in the US on a tourist visa, she could be stripped of her citizenship and deported.

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HappyWarrior Jul 26, 2017 • 2:51:18pm

re: #284 Big Beautiful Door

Since she lied about working in the US on a tourist visa, she could be stripped of her citizenship and deported.

That was different. // The talking of supping her back to Slovenia reminds me of how my Slovene-America grandfather would always joke about shipping us back to where we lived after we had been at his house for a while.

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ObserverArt Jul 26, 2017 • 2:52:12pm

re: #284 Big Beautiful Door

Since she lied about working in the US on a tourist visa, she could be stripped of her citizenship and deported.

Extreme vetting. She could be sent back because she is suspected of working with the Russians.

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wheat-dogg Jul 26, 2017 • 2:52:27pm

re: #284 Big Beautiful Door

Since she lied about working in the US on a tourist visa, she could be stripped of her citizenship and deported.

Nope. Pretty sure the statute of limitations makes that impossible now, plus she married a citizen who happens to be POTUS. So, dream on.

Besides, she is not a Mexican or a Muslim, so she’s safe. //

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 2:52:53pm

re: #283 Blind Frog Belly White

If you listen to old clips of Mr. Trump from the Seventies or Eighties, he is quite coherent. I am not sure what’s wrong, but his doobie-smoking physician with his “healthiest president ever” letter failed the “do not partake of the drug supply” rule of pedallers.

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BeachDem Jul 26, 2017 • 2:52:54pm

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC, Graham is just nutz

Welcome to my world.

I was just looking at the pic of Heller smirking at the table during his meeting with the yam and it was the first time I noticed that my other charming senator is the one smirking on the other side of the yam. (He’s cropped out of most of the photos.) So proud.

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Decatur Deb Jul 26, 2017 • 2:53:37pm

re: #283 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m quoting this bit because again today, I saw someone posting a bit from a Trump interview from decades ago. I read one of his answers aloud to Mrs. FBW, and we were both astonished that this is the same guy who gave that frighteningly incoherent interview to the NYT last week. He used to speak in sentences and paragraphs, and was able to stay on the topic through the whole answer.

Now? It’s like words and ideas are buzzing around in his head and he’s grasping at them as he speaks, and whichever one he catches in that moment is what he says.

I really think he’s suffering some form of dementia.

You have to be a psychiatrist to say he’s mentally ill, but you don’t have to be a proctologist to establish that he’s an asshole.

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No Depression Jul 26, 2017 • 2:53:46pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

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The wingnuts are so pissed lol

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 2:54:01pm

Heller introducing an amendment to protect Medicaid.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 26, 2017 • 2:54:59pm

re: #286 ObserverArt

Extreme vetting. She could be sent back because she is suspected of working with the Russians.

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It’s a…nice day to…start again.
It’s a…nice day for a…WHITE VETTING!

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Dave In Austin Jul 26, 2017 • 2:56:03pm

I don’t, and you can’t make me.

— Covfefe McGoo (@DaveoutofAustin) July 26, 2017

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wheat-dogg Jul 26, 2017 • 2:57:14pm

re: #283 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m quoting this bit because again today, I saw someone posting a bit from a Trump interview from decades ago. I read one of his answers aloud to Mrs. FBW, and we were both astonished that this is the same guy who gave that frighteningly incoherent interview to the NYT last week. He used to speak in sentences and paragraphs, and was able to stay on the topic through the whole answer.

Now? It’s like words and ideas are buzzing around in his head and he’s grasping at them as he speaks, and whichever one he catches in that moment is what he says.

I really think he’s suffering some form of dementia.

Consequences of an old “war” injury? Or perhaps following in his father’s footsteps. Fred had Alzheimer’s, apparently.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 26, 2017 • 2:57:25pm

re: #288 Anymouse 🌹

If you listen to old clips of Mr. Trump from the Seventies or Eighties, he is quite coherent. I am not sure what’s wrong, but his doobie-smoking physician with his “healthiest president ever” letter failed the “do not partake of the drug supply” rule of pedallers.

I thought that was what got Lance Armstrong kicked out of the record books?

(You meant ‘peddlers’. I can’t help finding some typos hilarious!)

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dangerman Jul 26, 2017 • 2:59:12pm

re: #283 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m quoting this bit because again today, I saw someone posting a bit from a Trump interview from decades ago. I read one of his answers aloud to Mrs. FBW, and we were both astonished that this is the same guy who gave that frighteningly incoherent interview to the NYT last week. He used to speak in sentences and paragraphs, and was able to stay on the topic through the whole answer.

Now? It’s like words and ideas are buzzing around in his head and he’s grasping at them as he speaks, and whichever one he catches in that moment is what he says.

I really think he’s suffering some form of dementia.

The first post word salad president

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Anymouse 🌹 Jul 26, 2017 • 3:01:15pm

re: #296 Blind Frog Belly White

I thought that was what got Lance Armstrong kicked out of the record books?

(You meant ‘peddlers’. I can’t help finding some typos hilarious!)

Gaa. Too many words, not enough sleep …

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sagehen Jul 26, 2017 • 3:01:17pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

what Cassidy and Graham fail to say is that those states not getting as much ACA funding are the ones that failed to participate in Medicaid expansion or even state level exchanges.

Not to mention, California has 35 million people. Makes sense there’d be more people on their exchange than any other 3 States.

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sagehen Jul 26, 2017 • 3:02:32pm

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I hear they pay pretty well. At least, that was Penn Gillette’s answer to why Tom Delay would have done it.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 26, 2017 • 3:02:40pm

re: #295 wheat-dogg

Consequences of an old “war” injury? Or perhaps following in his father’s footsteps. Fred had Alzheimer’s, apparently.

According to my brother, one test for how far general paresis has progressed in untreated syphilis is to have the patient say “Methodist Episcopal”. If he says, “Methdiss Pizzful”, well that’s pretty far.

Perhaps they should slip that into one of his speeches. You know - just to be sure.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 26, 2017 • 3:03:31pm

re: #299 sagehen

Not to mention, California has 35 million people. Makes sense there’d be more people on their exchange than any other 3 States.

Yeah, but they’re in the Senate, so Wyoming should get the same dollar amount as California, right?
//

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sagehen Jul 26, 2017 • 3:05:05pm

re: #222 ObserverArt

When Fundies go into things like ‘biological facts” I have to ask why mjany are fine with artificial insemination, invitro fertilization and other unnatural acts?

For what it’s worth, Catholic doctrine also opposes artificial insemination and in vitro.

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MsJ Jul 26, 2017 • 3:14:59pm

re: #267 nines09

Jeff Sessions Urges Melania to Work Harder on Campaign to Stop Cyberbullying

Sounds like a cry for help to me….

The Attorney General is trolling the President.

AWESOME.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 26, 2017 • 3:17:52pm

re: #304 MsJ

The Attorney General is trolling the President.

AWESOME.

look closer…it’s a Borowitz Report.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jul 26, 2017 • 3:20:05pm

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

look closer…it’s a Borowitz Report.

Our reality is so bizarre that way to much satire is readily believable.

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Unshaken Defiance Jul 26, 2017 • 3:24:10pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

Nope, they won’t because they’re a cult.

The Diffi Cult

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451_Montag Jul 26, 2017 • 3:24:18pm

I’m just holding on to the idea that the worse Shitgibbons McFucknut gets is a reflection of how bad the behind the scenes information he is getting. If the deflection is getting this bad, then he must be really scared.

I hope

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