Possibly the Greatest Product Endorsement Ever: Jacob Collier, “Over the Horizon 2017”

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Each generation of Samsung’s Galaxy devices comes preloaded with a fresh new take on “Over the Horizon”, Samsung’s signature, six-note groove. To craft this year’s rendition, Samsung teamed up with Grammy Award-winning artist Jacob Collier – a leading light among millennial musicians – to compose a tune that’s as unique and inventive as the devices themselves

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:02:50pm

Stunning talent, what can he not play if anything?

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William Lewis  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:14:56pm

OT Sort of:

I haven’t noticed this here but:

neilyoungarchives.com

IIUC all of Mr. Young’s music is available for streaming, for free (for now), at the highest resolution possible (if you’re set up for it—CD or MP3 quality if you’re not). I’m not a huge fan but I figure there are a few here.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:20:01pm

American Gothic 2017…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:20:51pm

re: #3 Joe Bacon 🌹

Almost flawless but could use a Confederate flag in the background.

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bratwurst  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:21:42pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:22:24pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Almost flawless but could use a Confederate flag in the background.

They had to take it down so their new Dish can bring them Fox News.

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JordanRules  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:26:00pm

Oh a nice timeline. I love timelines.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:27:03pm

re: #7 JordanRules

Motherfucker. I knew the GOP was bad news, but that is insane.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:30:47pm

re: #5 bratwurst

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Jeffy just wanted to be a dentist.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:34:12pm

I’m really getting tired of pedantic bullshit. Kamala Harris is rightfully advocating for NN and the Bros are whining at her about something she did as CA’s AG. If Libertarians want to know why most of us want nothing to do with them, it’s because they leave no room for compromise or mistakes with other people’s candidates but we’re supposed to ignore the Libertarian movement’s history of being at the very least indifferent to institutionalized racism because hey the private sector can do no wrong.

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:34:21pm

re: #5 bratwurst

I’m dying here.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:34:51pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:35:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:39:17pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

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If that movie came out know, the alt-right would cry that it was unfair to make the Nazis the bad guys.

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:41:17pm

During the Grammy’s earlier this year, Samsung ran a commercial highlighting using its phone to record video and audio. If you watch, you’ll see Jacob in it.

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Citizen K  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:50:26pm

re: #14 HappyWarrior

If that movie came out know, the alt-right would cry that it was unfair to make the Nazis the bad guys.

Indy and BJ Blazkowicz would get along real damn well, that’s for sure.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:50:49pm

Big cold air mass on the move north of me. It’s windy as fuck (gusts up to 50 mph) at my twenty, and also still in the mid 50s temperature-wise. Lows are supposed to be in the single digits tomorrow night. Still, not expecting any significant snow. 👿

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retired cynic  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:52:03pm

re: #17 teleskiguy

Big cold air mass on the move north of me. It’s windy as fuck (gusts up to 50 mph) at my twenty, and also still in the mid 50s temperature-wise. Lows are supposed to be in the single digits tomorrow night. Still, not expecting any significant snow. 👿

We’re sorry!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:54:48pm

re: #16 Citizen K

Indy and BJ Blazkowicz would get along real damn well, that’s for sure.

Now there’s a crossover!

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:55:35pm

re: #17 teleskiguy

Big cold air mass on the move north of me. It’s windy as fuck (gusts up to 50 mph) at my twenty, and also still in the mid 50s temperature-wise. Lows are supposed to be in the single digits tomorrow night. Still, not expecting any significant snow. 👿

Today’s high here in DFW was the mid 70s. Tomorrow, it will be near 80. After that, 50s and 60s for highs. Part of that front makes it through here, so it’ll once again feel like autumn.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 8:57:21pm

re: #18 retired cynic

We’re sorry!

Dog seems to like it. Even with the deck furniture blowing all around, he refuses to come in.

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retired cynic  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:01:55pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:07:26pm

I called the dog in because it’s finally getting colder and the damn wind is howling. He was having none of it. Minutes later he’s squeaking and scratching at the back door. Fine! He’s coming back in in 15 minutes whether he wants to or not, and he’ll want to go back out I’m sure. With that big fur coat I’m sure he likes the cooler weather and wind.

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retired cynic  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:08:18pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

Maybe he’s hearing something on the wind you can’t hear? Wild critters talking?

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mmmirele  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:10:33pm

re: #16 Citizen K

Indy and BJ Blazkowicz would get along real damn well, that’s for sure.

I was gonna say, we had a Wolfenstein game come out recently and the Nazis were all, “why are the Nazis the enemies?” Well, because it’s Wolfenstein, you numbnuts.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:11:53pm

Damn! Temperature has dropped 15 degrees in the last half hour or so.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:16:08pm

re: #25 mmmirele

I was gonna say, we had a Wolfenstein game come out recently and the Nazis were all, “why are the Nazis the enemies?” Well, because it’s Wolfenstein, you numbnuts.

And they call us snowflakes.

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mmmirele  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:20:19pm

I’m going out in the morning to picket the offices of Senators John McCain and Jeff Flake. They’re across the street from each other, on Camelback Rd. in Phoenix. I figure I’ll be out there between 7:30 am and 8 am, so that I can catch the staff coming in to work as well as rush hour traffic.

Here’s my signs. I had something more bland about how McCain and Flake favored the rich over the rest of us, but then I read an article about how CHIP funding had expired and decided to go with that.

Jeff Flake
John McCain

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:23:44pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:24:36pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

I’m really getting tired of pedantic bullshit. Kamala Harris is rightfully advocating for NN and the Bros are whining at her about something she did as CA’s AG. If Libertarians want to know why most of us want nothing to do with them, it’s because they leave no room for compromise or mistakes with other people’s candidates but we’re supposed to ignore the Libertarian movement’s history of being at the very least indifferent to institutionalized racism because hey the private sector can do no wrong.

Well a powerful and charismatic personality is what is required. Smart and a woman too, right this cultural minute? Do you recall how it looked around Obama early Senate days? And this one has fight in her. Prosecutorial methodological fire. Watch.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:25:35pm

re: #28 mmmirele

I’m going out in the morning to picket the offices of Senators John McCain and Jeff Flake. They’re across the street from each other, on Camelback Rd. in Phoenix. I figure I’ll be out there between 7:30 am and 8 am, so that I can catch the staff coming in to work as well as rush hour traffic.

Here’s my signs. I had something more bland about how McCain and Flake favored the rich over the rest of us, but then I read an article about how CHIP funding had expired and decided to go with that.

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You rule.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:27:27pm

re: #30 Unshaken Defiance

Well a powerful and charismatic personality is what is required. Smart and a woman too, right this cultural minute? Do you recall how it looked around Obama early Senate days? And this one has fight in her. Prosecutorial methodological fire. Watch.

Exactly. I’m tired of shooting down good potential leaders because of shallow bs. Meanwhile these same people constantly whine about the two party system while offering no real solutions. I like Harris a lot.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:27:47pm
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jaunte  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:28:14pm

Zero light, little water, little telephone service. Little has changed after Maria.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:28:57pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

By the way California has moved the primary up. I’d like to think that will be good for all 50. Edit. Unless I heard wrong…

That was it.
dailynews.com

Yeah wishful thinking.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:30:12pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:34:31pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:36:39pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

I used to think I would enjoy technological change until I died of old age. Shoot me now. ///

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:37:15pm

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

Lotta tough ladies. My grandmother’s great aunt raised two boys alone after her husband died and then raised my grandmother and her sisters after their mother, Great Aunt Molly’s niece died.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:40:11pm

re: #39 HappyWarrior

Lotta tough ladies. My grandmother’s great aunt raised two boys alone after her husband died and then raised my grandmother and her sisters after their mother, Great Aunt Molly’s niece died.

I’m think the most shy pioneer wife has it all over Taylor Swift or pretty much any of us first world types.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:41:21pm

re: #40 Unshaken Defiance

I’m think the most shy pioneer wife has it all over Taylor Swift or pretty much any of us first world types.

Absolutely.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:48:58pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:50:44pm
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Dave In Austin  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:56:00pm
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retired cynic  Dec 3, 2017 • 9:57:40pm

re: #44 Dave In Austin

I don’t believe it; GO AWAY!

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:45:13pm

I think the worst of the wind is over now. It’s 20 degrees cooler than it was just 90 minutes ago and skies are clear. And the dog still doesn’t want to come in. He looks at me when I check on him like “dude, can’t you see I’m perfectly comfortable out here? Shut that damn light, the moon is bright enough as it is!”

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 3, 2017 • 10:47:07pm

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

Taylor Swift? Psssh.

Wendy O. Williams, FTW!

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BigPapa  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:00:38pm
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TedStriker  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:13:12pm

re: #49 Single-handed sailor

Heh, Musk says Tesla car will fly on first Falcon Heavy launch

Not just any Tesla, but supposedly Musk’s own Roadster.

With the Tesla’s stereo blaring Bowie’s “Space Oddity” at launch.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:24:46pm

re: #50 TedStriker

Not just any Tesla, but supposedly Musk’s own Roadster.

With the Tesla’s stereo blaring Bowie’s “Space Oddity” at launch.

Honestly this irritates the shit out of me, it’s the worst aspect of Musk’s personality. He’s a brilliant man who when it comes to marketing the forward thinking technology his companies come up with far too often reverts back to acting like a fucking middle schooler.

Caltech could almost certainly whip together a satellite observatory from the spare parts sitting around at JPL right now and he could launch that but instead he’s gonna go with this bullshit stunt.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:33:29pm
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TedStriker  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:39:47pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

Honestly this irritates the shit out of me, it’s the worst aspect of Musk’s personality. He’s a brilliant man who when it comes to marketing the forward thinking technology his companies come up with far too often reverts back to acting like a fucking middle schooler.

Caltech could almost certainly whip together a satellite observatory from the spare parts sitting around at JPL right now and he could launch that instead but instead he’s gonna go with this bullshit stunt.

I wouldn’t be too hard on Musk; he and SpaceX started a tradition, where, in their crafts’ maiden “full-up” flights, they launch it with the goofiest payload they can think of. For the Dragon capsule’s first flight in 2010, they launched it with a big wheel of cheese as a nod to Monty Python’s “Cheese Shop” sketch. There’s also another very important reason the Falcon Heavy’s first flight won’t have a more traditional scientific payload:

SpaceX founder Elon Musk has said he intends to launch the “silliest thing we can imagine” on the maiden launch of the Falcon Heavy. This is partly because the rocket is experimental—there is a non-trivial chance the rocket will explode on the launch pad or shortly after launch. It is also partly because Musk is a master showman who knows how to grab attention.

arstechnica.com

It’s still a test vehicle, so I rather Musk put his Roadster (or whatever he does decide to launch) on top instead of having a bonafide scientific payload that had even a modicum of time and money put into it go up in smoke if the rocket fails.

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teleskiguy  Dec 3, 2017 • 11:58:47pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

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Lupin  Dec 4, 2017 • 12:00:36am

Morning café here in Southern France. The big US news — made the front page of our local rag — is the US pulling out of the UN Migration Compact. If you guys were here you’d be shocked at the animus it generated. Trump is really turning your country into a world pariah.

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TedStriker  Dec 4, 2017 • 12:05:24am

re: #54 teleskiguy

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OK, that Twitter thread makes some very good points why Musk’s Roadster shouldn’t get launched, least of which is that a very expensive car could get blown up in a very visible display of “conspicuous consumption” of a sort.

Definitely not a good idea, but I’m still good with a silly payload that’s not so “charged”.

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TedStriker  Dec 4, 2017 • 12:07:56am

re: #55 Lupin

Morning café here in Southern France. The big US news — made the front page of our local rag — is the US pulling out of the UN Migration Compact. If you guys were here you’d be shocked at the animus it generated. Trump is really turning your country into a world pariah.

Yeah, we know…it’s gonna take a long time to even address it (and the other fuckups going on) after Trump’s gone, if anyone will ever trust us again.

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teleskiguy  Dec 4, 2017 • 12:08:08am

re: #46 teleskiguy

In the documentary “The Vietnam War” one of the most wrenching moments for me was when Marine John Musgrave described his descent into near-suicide. The only thing that kept him from blowing his brains out with a pistol was that his dog was scratching at his door, dog needed to be let in. And that one moment kept him from killing himself when he was a very young man, a man who had been grievously wounded in Vietnam in 1967 and still survived.

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teleskiguy  Dec 4, 2017 • 12:11:11am

re: #58 teleskiguy

I can relate to the dog needing to be let in.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2017 • 12:38:29am

re: #55 Lupin

Trump is really turning your country into a world pariah.

America: the world’s greatest pariah!!!

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teleskiguy  Dec 4, 2017 • 12:43:30am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

America: the world’s greatest pariah!!!

BIGLY!!!

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teleskiguy  Dec 4, 2017 • 1:03:24am

re: #52 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Dec 4, 2017 • 1:15:45am
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teleskiguy  Dec 4, 2017 • 1:35:53am

Ben Shapiro has almost a million followers on Twitter. His message resonates. His message? Donald Trump. And that message is quite popular.

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Lupin  Dec 4, 2017 • 1:36:50am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

America: the world’s greatest pariah!!!

Astonishingly, even on the center-right newspaper LE FIGARO, generally always pro-US, the tone of the article and the comments below are scathing. The mood can be roughly summed up as “those f*ckers who have caused world disorder with their wars now refuse to bear the consequences. They should be forced to take their responsibilities.”

Big news here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2017 • 1:38:42am

re: #65 Lupin

Astonishingly, even on the center-right newspaper LE FIGARO, generally always pro-US, the tone of the article and the comments below are scathing. The mood can be roughly summed up as “those f*ckers who have caused world disorder with their wars now refuse to bear the consequences. They should be forced to take their responsibilities.”

Big news here.

Being Great is about making other people deal with the consequences while you walk away…

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Lupin  Dec 4, 2017 • 1:40:19am

re: #64 teleskiguy

Ben Shapiro has almost a million followers on Twitter. His message resonates. His message? Donald Trump. And that message is quite popular.

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As I wrote yesterday, the real problem is that roughly 1/3rd of your population is unhinged, and I don’t see a cure for that on the horizon. The chickens of your disastrous education policies, your slovenly media and stubborn refusal in tackling hate speech have finally come home to roost.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2017 • 1:42:58am

re: #67 Lupin

As I wrote yesterday, the real problem is that roughly 1/3rd of your population is unhinged, and I don’t see a cure for that on the horizon. The chickens of your disastrous education policies, your slovenly media and stubborn refusal in tackling hate speech have finally come home to roost.

and we have a senate and electoral system that gives that unhinged 1/3rd a disproportionate share of representation.

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teleskiguy  Dec 4, 2017 • 1:48:26am

re: #68 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Our government is supposed to be representative of the people, right?

Garbage in, garbage out. I’ve believed this all of my adult life.

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LastYearsMan  Dec 4, 2017 • 1:50:35am

re: #55 Lupin

That’s the scary thing, isn’t it? Even if the US gets its act together and elects a government of adults, the rest of us will always be wondering “How long before those hillbillies decide to burn it all down again?”

… You know, assuming there is a next election. Or a future.

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Lupin  Dec 4, 2017 • 1:51:10am

re: #68 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and we have a senate and electoral system that gives that unhinged 1/3rd a disproportionate share of representation.

Very true.

As I have pointed out in the past, the founding document of the current French 5th Republic, our present Constitution, has been amended 24 times (last in 2008) since 1958.

To amend the Constitution here requires a bill approved by both houses of Parliament, then by Congress (a special joint session of both houses); or alternatively, the bill can be submitted to a popular referendum (like De Gaulle did, unsuccessfully, in 1969.)

In a modern democracy, it is necessary to amend one’s Constitution to tackle changes in society, politics, the law, etc, etc. That you are unable to do so, virtually “frozen” in the 19th century, is another indictment of your system, which is now collapsing. The Russians are having the last laugh, after all.

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teleskiguy  Dec 4, 2017 • 1:54:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2017 • 1:56:32am

Between over-representation of rural states and gerrymandering in more populous states, the GOP has a larger share of Congressional seats than its actual total of votes would indicate.

Which is a major reason we are so fucked. They know that is not likely to change.

And now their tax bill will give enough middle-income people enough short-term tax relief that they will continue to vote GOP.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 4, 2017 • 1:56:39am

Another episode in the War on Christmas…

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wheat-dogg  Dec 4, 2017 • 2:15:42am

ATTENTION VICIOUS BABUSHKA, the gauntlet has been thrown down:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2017 • 2:23:16am

re: #75 wheat-dogg

ATTENTION VICIOUS BABUSHKA, the gauntlet has been thrown down:

food should not be a competitive sport

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 4, 2017 • 2:37:58am

Good morning, fellow Lizardoids.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2017 • 2:42:50am

re: #78 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Good morning, fellow Lizardoids.

The only Trump supporters I could even begin to understand (although not agree with) are the ones who felt that since our whole economy and society are going to collapse anyway, it is best to elect Trump and just get it over with so we can start rebuilding.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 4, 2017 • 2:52:39am

Erick Son of Erick took a Jesuit (!) to task about taxation, and now a rabbi is schooling Erick about teh Bible and stuff.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2017 • 2:55:25am

re: #80 wheat-dogg

The Bible teaches it is an individual responsibility to help the poor. Shame on those who’d pass off their personal obligation to the government.

that is a total Free Market Jesus interpretation. Where does the Bible say that we cannot mandate the government to help the poor in our name?

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wheat-dogg  Dec 4, 2017 • 2:58:45am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is a total Free Market Jesus interpretation. Where does the Bible say that we cannot mandate the government to help the poor in our name?

Erick is as usual full of shit, and he’s been taken to town by Christians and Jews alike.

His original tweet was in response to a Jesuit’s tweet about the tax scam bill. Erick should know not to get into a debate with a Jesuit.

Or an evangelical

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Lupin  Dec 4, 2017 • 3:11:51am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is a total Free Market Jesus interpretation. Where does the Bible say that we cannot mandate the government to help the poor in our name?

To paraphrase Monty Python:

A collection of semi anonymous texts selected through political compromise by a bunch of Greeks and Byzantines is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical Apocrypha.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 4, 2017 • 3:11:52am
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Dave In Austin  Dec 4, 2017 • 3:21:51am
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A Mom Anon  Dec 4, 2017 • 3:26:39am

re: #84 Dave In Austin

Or ya know, let’s just say that most people pretty much have no money to give once they’ve paid bills and fed their families. We don’t consider that poor, but an individual can only do so much, churches too. And if you make sure, via mean and stupid policies, that more people end up poor, where’s all this individual help supposed to come from? Churches and individuals can’t profile consistent and ongoing help. Food, clothing, shelter and medical care are just the basics. There’s also education and work that pays a living wage to consider. Erick and his buddies never have an answer to how we solve problems of poverty and loss . Everything with them involves punishment and shame.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 4, 2017 • 3:35:40am

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

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Dave In Austin  Dec 4, 2017 • 3:43:26am
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wheat-dogg  Dec 4, 2017 • 3:54:45am

re: #88 Dave In Austin

Seems like it would be easier to make the French toast and sausages separately, and then eat them separately. But that’s just me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2017 • 3:56:32am

re: #89 wheat-dogg

Seems like it would be easier to make the French toast and sausages separately, and then eat them separately. But that’s just me.

it is more about pleasing the eye, yes.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 4, 2017 • 3:58:50am

Well, those quizzes aren’t going to grade themselves. BBIAB.

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meteor  Dec 4, 2017 • 4:41:53am

Morning. Spent way too much time writing yesterday. Little sleep. Must stagger through the work day. :)

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 4, 2017 • 4:50:27am

re: #52 teleskiguy

Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama
@teleskiguy
Just so y’all know, @benshapiro, who was recently profiled by The @nytimes, is a racist piece of shit who thinks anyone of Arab descent are murderers and rapists and thus should be eliminated. static.currentaffairs.org
1:32 AM - Dec 4, 2017

The Cool Kid’s Philosopher
Ben Shapiro’s fans apparently think he is very smart. It is not clear why.
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A friend who had been an ardent Bernie supporter with an intense dislike of Hillary but who did vote for her shares this hatred of Arabs and believes that Obama was anti-Israel, despite his financial aid to the nation. My friend does not share any of Ben’s other views. He was not happy with my suggestion that Netanyahu was responsible for Trump’s victory since so many in the Orthodox community (not all — see VB) voted for him only because they would vote for whomever Netanyahu wanted.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2017 • 4:52:18am

OH HAI.

I am back at work now. We finally got into Detroit at 4:00PM after our flight from Toronto was delayed for 5 hours. We could have rented a car and drove back in less time!

Anyway I threw my clothes in the washer, myself into the shower and then slept for 15 hours.

I am still jet-lagged as fuck. Yesterday lasted for 31 hours!

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William Lewis  Dec 4, 2017 • 4:56:11am

re: #80 wheat-dogg

Eric son of Eric’s twisted interpretation of how to care for the poor is similar to how they have twisted the story of Sodom and Gomorrah to be about sexual deviance rather than what it was really about, per Ezekiel 16:49-50 -

49 This was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty, and did abominable things before me; therefore I removed them when I saw it.

This is as clear as it gets, Eric son of Eric.

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jeffreyw  Dec 4, 2017 • 4:57:07am

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Good morning!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2017 • 4:57:10am

re: #93 Hecuba’s daughter

A friend who had been an ardent Bernie supporter with an intense dislike of Hillary but who did vote for her shares this hatred of Arabs and believes that Obama was anti-Israel, despite his financial aid to the nation. My friend does not share any of Ben’s other views. He was not happy with my suggestion that Netanyahu was responsible for Trump’s victory since so many in the Orthodox community (not all — see VB) voted for him only because they would vote for whomever Netanyahu wanted.

Ben Shapiro is a stupid little fuckhead & Israelis think Trump is a stupid bigly fuckhead but Bibi supports him because he thinks Cheeto can be manipulated.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2017 • 5:35:36am

re: #55 Lupin

Morning café here in Southern France. The big US news — made the front page of our local rag — is the US pulling out of the UN Migration Compact. If you guys were here you’d be shocked at the animus it generated. Trump is really turning your country into a world pariah.

I’m aware of the situation thanks to my French friends. They’ve been e-mailing me all the “love” that President Mange Merde is spreading around the world.

As I posted before, ol’ Pruneface Reagan loved to bullshit about America being the “City on a Hill”. Trump has turned America into a giant sewer pouring its’ narcissistic garbage out on the rest of the world. And now the World is turning on us…

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2017 • 5:38:23am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2017 • 5:40:21am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is a total Free Market Jesus interpretation. Where does the Bible say that we cannot mandate the government to help the poor in our name?

Gosh that attitude is in every page of the holy texts of Erick’s goddess Ayn Rand!

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 4, 2017 • 5:45:40am

re: #98 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m aware of the situation thanks to my French friends. They’ve been e-mailing me all the “love” that President Mange Merde is spreading around the world.

As I posted before, ol’ Pruneface Reagan loved to bullshit about America being the “City on a Hill”. Trump has turned America into a giant sewer pouring its’ narcissistic garbage out on the rest of the world. And now the World is turning on us…

The only differences between Trump and Reagan are that Reagan was not a Russian asset, he actually was devoted to wife, he was not a misogynist, and he knew how to behave with decorum. His style differed from Trump’s but on substance (except for Russia), there is not much distinction.

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Citizen K  Dec 4, 2017 • 5:52:06am

Trump’s speedrun of the Nixon Administration has officially reached ‘If the president does it, it’s NOT illegal’ part. He flirted with it, but having a lawyer make such an unequivocal statement is…yeah.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 5:57:03am

he’s still a maroon

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 5:59:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:02:36am
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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:06:52am

You get what you deserve.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:08:49am
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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:10:36am

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:11:12am
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Belafon  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:11:39am

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s still a maroon

“We’re going to be tough on crime with a child molesting judge who can’t follow the law.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:15:17am

re: #110 Belafon

Gotta borrow that a minute…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:16:34am

re: #110 Belafon

“We’re going to be tough on crime with a child molesting judge who can’t follow the law.”

And the who prosecuted Eric Rudolph and the killers of the four little girls in Birmingham is SOFT! // Sad thing is Moore is still favored simply by being a Republican. Oh Alabama.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:20:25am

You guys were talking about Shapiro earlier. He’s what I call an old man in a young man’s body. He’s got so much anger and I just don’t get why. He’s not particularly stupid like a Jim Hoft. Not as intelligent as he and his fans think and definitely not insightful. I don’t get his appeal at all. The biggest secret about Ben is he’s a big bore. Just another pathetic attempt to make being a wingnut “cool.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:21:41am

sad trombone:

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:22:35am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is a total Free Market Jesus interpretation. Where does the Bible say that we cannot mandate the government to help the poor in our name?

It doesn’t. In fact it specifically says that the government is anointed by God to do good, so we should all obey the law and pay our damn taxes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:24:41am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:27:25am

re: #115 Big Beautiful Door

It doesn’t. In fact it specifically says that the government is anointed by God to do good, so we should all obey the law and pay our damn taxes.

Also, those who are blessed with wealth have an OBLIGATION to support the poor and specifically, widows, children and “strangers” (i.e. FOREIGNERS).

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:27:40am

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

sad trombone:

Who among us hasn’t lied to the FBI and taken thousands from a foreign government to go after a thorn in said government’s said.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:28:28am
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Belafon  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:29:54am

re: #115 Big Beautiful Door

It doesn’t. In fact it specifically says that the government is anointed by God to do good, so we should all obey the law and pay our damn taxes.

Person: Look I took care of these three people.
God: You could have done more with your fellow citizens, as I directed.
Person: But then I wouldn’t have stood out from others.
God: Then you already received your reward.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:30:14am

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Who among us hasn’t lied to the FBI and taken thousands from a foreign government to go after a thorn in said government’s said.

Or ran a fake university, raped the wife, or turned emoluments into a for profit division of White House operations.///

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JordanRules  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:31:50am
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Sea Mexican!  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:35:29am

re: #106 makeitstop

You get what you deserve.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:38:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:39:32am
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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:41:27am

re: #94 The Vicious Babushka

OH HAI.

I am back at work now. We finally got into Detroit at 4:00PM after our flight from Toronto was delayed for 5 hours. We could have rented a car and drove back in less time!

Anyway I threw my clothes in the washer, myself into the shower and then slept for 15 hours.

I am still jet-lagged as fuck. Yesterday lasted for 31 hours!

I know that feeling. I couldn’t sleep on planes (sleep apnea), so on trips to China and back I would be awake over 24 hours.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:42:35am

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

Uh huh. If the President does it, it’s not illegal! At least Nixon waited until after he left office to give that gem.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:43:06am
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Sir John Barron  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:43:36am

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

Putting Pelosi/Schumer Liberal Puppet Jones into office in Alabama would hurt our great Republican Agenda of low on taxes, tough on crime, strong on military and borders…& so much more. Look at your 401-k’s since Election. Highest Stock Market EVER! Jobs are roaring back!

— Donald J. Trump

Leaving aside that during the campaign Dumpster called the stock market highs a ‘bubble’, the whims of the stock market seems like a dicey thing to try to hitch one’s star to.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:45:15am

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s still a maroon

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Trump is right about one thing; the stock market is way up today. At least my 401(k) is benefiting, for now. At least until Trump crashes the economy.

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wheat-dogg  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:46:40am

re: #130 Big Beautiful Door

Trump is right about one thing; the stock market is way up today. At least my 401(k) is benefiting, for now. At least until Trump crashes the economy.

Wall Street is still in the honeymoon phase with Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:47:57am

re: #129 Sir John Barron

Leaving aside that during the campaign Dumpster called the stock market highs a ‘bubble’, the whims of the stock market seems like a dicey thing to try to hitch one’s star to.

We’re talking about someone who also claimed the real unemployment rate was around what it was during the Depression or worse. It’s not that Trump lies, it’s that he lies on an epic level.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:48:35am

re: #110 Belafon

“We’re going to be tough on crime with a child molesting judge who can’t follow the law.”

“Tough on crime” is dog whistle for shooting and jailing ni-CLANGS!.

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JordanRules  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:48:38am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:48:50am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

We’re talking about someone who also claimed the real unemployment rate was around what it was during the Depression or worse. It’s not that Trump lies, it’s that he lies on an epic level.

And he lies about things that are demonstrably false. It’s like he has built his own version of “reality”

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:50:09am

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

PM May might have just opened a can of worms.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:51:06am

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:52:57am

re: #136 Dr Lizardo

PM May might have just opened a can of worms.

indeed

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:55:03am

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is because everyone knows the massive tax giveaway to corporations is going to go to stock buy-backs and not investment. This only helps people who own stocks; it is massively tilted in favor of the wealthy. I have some in my 401K so I’ll make thousands off of it; but the wealthy will rake in tens and hundreds of millions.

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dangerman  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:56:41am

re: #80 wheat-dogg

Erick Son of Erick took a Jesuit (!) to task about taxation, and now a rabbi is schooling Erick about teh Bible and stuff.

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A female rabbi

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:58:33am

re: #134 JordanRules

Law abiding Democrat is worse than a Pedo judge who has been removed twice. Yep the GOP bass is deplorable.

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scottslemmons  Dec 4, 2017 • 6:59:54am

re: #113 HappyWarrior

You guys were talking about Shapiro earlier. He’s what I call an old man in a young man’s body. He’s got so much anger and I just don’t get why. He’s not particularly stupid like a Jim Hoft. Not as intelligent as he and his fans think and definitely not insightful. I don’t get his appeal at all. The biggest secret about Ben is he’s a big bore. Just another pathetic attempt to make being a wingnut “cool.”

I think Shapiro’s problem is that he got his start as a Professional Adorable Republican Preteen. His parents told him what to say, and he got adoration from the wingnuts because he was a little kid. He’s never matured beyond where he was as a kid.

And his career post-childhood hasn’t actually been very impressive. He couldn’t hack it as a lawyer, and he’s despised by the people he wants to love him because they’re Nazis and he’s Jewish.

And while I’m sure he makes millions as a Wingnut Welfare recipient, he’s still just a weirdo who goes on Twitter to say ignorant shit to racist maniacs. He’s never going to be accepted as the intellectual titan he wishes he was, and his advancement in the party has a very low ceiling. He probably doesn’t get invited to frou-frou cocktail parties, and any other gatherings he attends are eventually going to descend into people sig-heiling him to his face once enough alcohol is consumed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:00:52am

re: #141 HappyWarrior

Law abiding Democrat is worse than a Pedo judge who has been removed twice. Yep the GOP bass is deplorable.

You mean a Democrat who is “registering convicted felons”?

AL Republicans have a very different idea about what constitutes “law abiding”.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:05:04am

re: #142 scottslemmons

I think Shapiro’s problem is that he got his start as a Professional Adorable Republican Preteen. His parents told him what to say, and he got adoration from the wingnuts because he was a little kid. He’s never matured beyond where he was as a kid.

And his career post-childhood hasn’t actually been very impressive. He couldn’t hack it as a lawyer, and he’s despised by the people he wants to love him because they’re Nazis and he’s Jewish.

And while I’m sure he makes millions as a Wingnut Welfare recipient, he’s still just a weirdo who goes on Twitter to say ignorant shit to racist maniacs. He’s never going to be accepted as the intellectual titan he wishes he was, and his advancement in the party has a very low ceiling. He probably doesn’t get invited to frou-frou cocktail parties, and any other gatherings he attends are eventually going to descend into people sig-heiling him to his face once enough alcohol is consumed.

Yeah I forgot his origins as a Republican kid star. I think you’re absolutely right. He’s a plain old mediocrity as you’re getting at. He’s certainly not elected office material because the only people who might really like him are those who like because he preaches to the choir.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:05:21am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You mean a Democrat who is “registering convicted felons”?

AL Republicans have a very different idea about what constitutes “law abiding”.

True, true.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:07:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:08:16am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:08:22am

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

She should be voted out for being that stupid alone.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:09:13am

re: #140 dangerman

A female rabbi

[Baby Whiplash]MEEH what does she know, a female Reform rabbi, she’s not even Jewish![/Baby Whiplash]

Actually she has it exactly right. The Bibles does talk about these things and they are actual laws codified in the Talmud.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:10:07am

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

indeed

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If the Tories had any sense, they’d just say “to hell with it, we’re cancelling Article 50 and nullifying this whole Brexit thing because it was an utterly stupid thing to do and if you don’t like that, well, go fuck yourselves” but they won’t because

1) The Tories would implode - Brexit is the direct result of a long-running internal party feud on the UK’s place in the EU and the wider world

2) They’re British. They’ll go down with the ship, in full dress uniform, happily whistling “Rule Brittania”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:11:37am

re: #142 scottslemmons

I think Shapiro’s problem is that he got his start as a Professional Adorable Republican Preteen. His parents told him what to say, and he got adoration from the wingnuts because he was a little kid. He’s never matured beyond where he was as a kid.

And his career post-childhood hasn’t actually been very impressive. He couldn’t hack it as a lawyer, and he’s despised by the people he wants to love him because they’re Nazis and he’s Jewish.

And while I’m sure he makes millions as a Wingnut Welfare recipient, he’s still just a weirdo who goes on Twitter to say ignorant shit to racist maniacs. He’s never going to be accepted as the intellectual titan he wishes he was, and his advancement in the party has a very low ceiling. He probably doesn’t get invited to frou-frou cocktail parties, and any other gatherings he attends are eventually going to descend into people sig-heiling him to his face once enough alcohol is consumed.

You would think that The Jew Who Gets The Most Anti-Semitic Abuse On Twitter would see that as a wake-up call but nah.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:12:04am

The thing though is the right always has people like this to try to make their message more palatable to people who aren’t in their base. Rubio tried being the “cool, hip” Republican by talking about how he likes rap and Tupac just as Ryan did with his Ratm fandom. The best phrase for guys like this is they’re an old person’s idea of a young person, I forgot who said it was but it was used on Rubio. Even Milo is wearing out his welcome with everyone but virulent racist shitbags.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:12:39am
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dangerman  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:13:15am

re: #149 The Vicious Babushka

[Baby Whiplash]MEEH what does she know, a female Reform rabbi, she’s not even Jewish![/Baby Whiplash]

Actually she has it exactly right. The Bibles does talk about these things and they are actual laws codified in the Talmud.

Yup schooled by a woman (as if it matters)
For him and Erick that’s gotta sting worse

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:13:25am

re: #151 The Vicious Babushka

You would think that The Jew Who Gets The Most Anti-Semitic Abuse On Twitter would see that as a wake-up call but nah.

He just blames the left for antisemitism. Kid has a lot of issues. I would too I guess if I claimed to speak for the Jewish people with the arrogance he does.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:13:57am

re: #153 bill d. (b.d.)

A tweet for all seasons.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:14:09am

re: #148 HappyWarrior

She should be voted out for being that stupid alone.

She knew all along; she just had to say something to justify her yes vote, which is all about paying back the donors.

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Citizen K  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:15:09am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

The thing though is the right always has people like this to try to make their message more palatable to people who aren’t in their base. Rubio tried being the “cool, hip” Republican by talking about how he likes rap and Tupac just as Ryan did with his Ratm fandom. The best phrase for guys like this is they’re an old person’s idea of a young person, I forgot who said it was but it was used on Rubio. Even Milo is wearing out his welcome with everyone but virulent racist shitbags.

Republicans always seem to have the strange, disconnected, Madison Ave. version of minority outreach. Newt is the dumb man’s impression of a genius. Ben is the old man’s impression of a millennial, Ryan is the ideologue’s impression of a wonk, Milo the homophobe’s impression of a gay man, etc.

They dabble in stereotypes and think that’s enough to get people on their side. The problem is that those demographics are almost never really their target. Their real target is the base who indulges in said stereotypes too and look for the ‘good ones’ to be the exception to the rule they have in their heads.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:15:33am

re: #157 Big Beautiful Door

She knew all along; she just had to say something to justify her yes vote, which is all about paying back the donors.

And a nice cushy parachute to land on if they lose reelection or renomination.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:16:15am

re: #158 Citizen K

Republicans always seem to have the strange, disconnected, Madison Ave. version of minority outreach. Newt is the dumb man’s impression of a genius. Ben is the old man’s impression of a millennial, Ryan is the ideologue’s impression of a wonk, Milo the homophobe’s impression of a gay man, etc.

They dabble in stereotypes and think that’s enough to get people on their side. The problem is that those demographics are almost never really their target. Their real target is the base who indulges in said stereotypes too and look for the ‘good ones’ to be the exception to the rule they have in their heads.

Nailed it.

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scottslemmons  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:17:13am

re: #151 The Vicious Babushka

You would think that The Jew Who Gets The Most Anti-Semitic Abuse On Twitter would see that as a wake-up call but nah.

He’d have to be able to grow beyond who he was at 13 getting praised for repeating what Daddy told him to say. He’ll never be able to do that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:21:51am

re: #161 scottslemmons

He’d have to be able to grow beyond who he was at 13 getting praised for repeating what Daddy told him to say. He’ll never be able to do that.

My 13-year-old grandson who just celebrated his Bar Mitzvah is a zillion times more mature and intelligent than Baby Whiplash will ever be.

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Citizen K  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:21:53am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:23:06am

re: #162 The Vicious Babushka

My 13-year-old grandson who just celebrated his Bar Mitzvah is a zillion times more mature and intelligent than Baby Whiplash will ever be.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:24:04am

re: #163 Citizen K

Agreed. Remember when Santorum called Obama snob for wanting affordable post high school education for all students.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:33:12am
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Citizen K  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:34:59am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

Doesn’t matter. Trump said it, therefore it’s the literal unvarnished truth from God’s lips Himself, according to Republicans. Even those that hate Trump will repeat it because ‘take that libz’ and ‘lock her up’.

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JordanRules  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:35:39am
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Kilroy was here  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:36:04am

How will women respond to Roy Moore?

Roy Moore is committed to a culture that believes women are not men’s equals. He supports the view that women should not be permitted to run for office and that when they do, people have a moral obligation to vote against them.

al.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:39:15am

re: #168 JordanRules

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:42:01am

re: #168 JordanRules

BREAKING: Yemen’s Houthi rebels claim powerful ex-president Ali Abdullah Saleh has been killed.

If true, this will lead to a catastrophic downward spiral in the civil war. Only U.S. leadership can save Yemen now.

Yeah, Yemen’s totally fucked then.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:42:58am

re: #171 Dr Lizardo

BREAKING: Yemen’s Houthi rebels claim powerful ex-president Ali Abdullah Saleh has been killed.

If true, this will lead to a catastrophic downward spiral in the civil war. Only U.S. leadership can save Yemen now.

Yeah, Yemen’s totally fucked then.

Thoughts and prayers Yemen, thoughts and prayers…

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:43:19am

re: #171 Dr Lizardo

BREAKING: Yemen’s Houthi rebels claim powerful ex-president Ali Abdullah Saleh has been killed.

If true, this will lead to a catastrophic downward spiral in the civil war. Only U.S. leadership can save Yemen now.

Yeah, Yemen’s totally fucked then.

Somebody call Jared!!!! ///

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Dr. Matt  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:44:25am

re: #153 bill d. (b.d.)

Priceless. As 6,000 lobbyists helped write the GOP tax scam bill that gives tax breaks to the wealthiest Americans while raising taxes on Trump’s poor white trash base.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:50:32am
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JordanRules  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:51:48am

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah this is a mess. Self inflicted Ms. May.

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freetoken  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:54:04am

re: #176 JordanRules

The own-goal theory of politics seems to be the way with the Tories of late.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:55:12am
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JordanRules  Dec 4, 2017 • 7:59:38am

The 80s renditions certainly ring true for me.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:00:32am

Someone is going to get fired for this. American Airlines reached an agreement with its pilots to pay them double so that all its flights during the holiday season don’t get canceled.

finance.yahoo.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:01:39am

re: #180 Big Beautiful Door

Someone is going to get fired for this. American Airlines reached an agreement with its pilots to pay them double so that all its flights during the holiday season don’t get canceled.

finance.yahoo.com

a lot of low-level people will get fired, but the upper-level managing directors will just take their severance packages and move on…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:01:57am

JFC.

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JordanRules  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:03:20am

Spread the word!

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:04:25am

re: #174 Dr. Matt

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Priceless. As 6,000 lobbyists helped write the GOP tax scam bill that gives tax breaks to the wealthiest Americans while raising taxes on Trump’s poor white trash base.

The Trumpers I know are not poor though white describes most of them. They are devout believers that everything from Trump’s mouth is the truth, the tax plan will lead to 4% economic growth, and Flynn will lead to Hillary’s indictment.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:06:36am

re: #184 Hecuba’s daughter

Translation: They are fucking idiots and white trash regardless of their paystubs….just like their Dotard.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:07:12am

re: #182 GlutenFreeJesus

This is the guy that’s going to run against Paul Ryan.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:13:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:18:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:19:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:20:07am
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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:29:06am

re: #186 GlutenFreeJesus

This is the guy that’s going to run against Paul Ryan.

I think he did last time. If I remember correctly, he was suggesting we round up all the Muslims. He’s one of Trump’s “very fine people.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:34:05am

resisting the obvious joke…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:36:24am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:36:30am

re: #182 GlutenFreeJesus

JFC.

WTF.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:36:49am

re: #191 Big Beautiful Door

I think he did last time. If I remember correctly, he was suggesting we round up all the Muslims. He’s one of Trump’s “very fine people.”

Yep he did. I remember the name.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:36:49am

re: #191 Big Beautiful Door

I think he did last time. If I remember correctly, he was suggesting we round up all the Muslims. He’s one of Trump’s “very fine people.”

He’s the guy trying to primary Paul Ryan. Not Randy Bryce, the Democrat trying to unseat him.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:37:18am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rich coming from a guy who went after high school girls.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:37:18am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:37:44am

re: #196 Hecuba’s daughter

He’s the guy trying to primary Paul Ryan. Not Randy Bryce, the Democrat trying to unseat him.

Yeah that’s what was meant.

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JordanRules  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:38:16am
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:38:49am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t OAN supposed to be even worse than Fox? After all, Fox has a couple semi-“legitimate” journalists.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:38:50am

re: #196 Hecuba’s daughter

He’s the guy trying to primary Paul Ryan. Not Randy Bryce, the Democrat trying to unseat him.

Yes I think he tried to primary Ryan last time, and Ryan got 80% of the vote in the primary.

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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:42:08am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wall Street executive killed by tiger shark while scuba diving off Costa Rica

What ever happened to professional courtesy?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:43:33am

re: #201 Hecuba’s daughter

Isn’t OAN supposed to be even worse than Fox? After all, Fox has a couple semi-“legitimate” journalists.

Yes…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:44:30am

re: #201 Hecuba’s daughter

Isn’t OAN supposed to be even worse than Fox? After all, Fox has a couple semi-“legitimate” journalists.

Sarah Palin wasn’t outrageous enough for OAN.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:48:11am

re: #191 Big Beautiful Door

I think he did last time. If I remember correctly, he was suggesting we round up all the Muslims. He’s one of Trump’s “very fine people.”

I was more right than I knew. Nehlen retweeted a tweet of the tiki torch marchers in Charlottesville describing it as an “incredible moment for white people.”

washingtonexaminer.com

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:48:59am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:49:13am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

Asked by fawning “interviewer” what he has learned from the campaign, Roy Moore says: “I think immorality has sunken to a new low.” www.

while promising to set new standards of arbitrariness

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:50:21am

re: #200 JordanRules

In which case, why did the lawyer say Trump’s tweet was “my mistake”? What was the mistake, if the content was accurate?

he made the mistake of getting caught

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:50:58am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

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For example, who would’ve imagined that an accused child molester could be elected to the US Senate?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:51:32am

re: #206 Big Beautiful Door

I was more right than I knew. Nehlen retweeted a tweet of the tiki torch marchers in Charlottesville describing it as an “incredible moment for white people.”

washingtonexaminer.com

JFC

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:52:25am

I found the story about Paul Nehlen asking, “Why do we have Muslims in this country?”

abcnews.go.com

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:52:29am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:53:54am

re: #212 Big Beautiful Door

I found the story about Paul Nehlen asking, “Why do we have Muslims in this country?”

abcnews.go.com

Same reason we have any group. Religious freedom. These guys.

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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2017 • 8:59:15am

Now that you mention it, Natasha - where is Saint 9/11?

He seems to have gone to ground. Ankara, perhaps?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:01:29am
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meteor  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:03:59am

re: #182 GlutenFreeJesus

Good Lord. That actually made me gasp.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:04:51am

My former Representative (FL 3rd then 5th)

Until recently, only a “little” gerrymandered…

It got a “little” better recently

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sagehen  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:06:30am

re: #134 JordanRules

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“If the rest of the country said the sky is blue, Alabama would say it was green,” wrote Nancy Strickland Hawkins on the News’s Facebook page.

“Hell,” responded James Claborn, “we’d paint it green.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:09:26am
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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:13:44am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Trump’s busy bitching about Hillary Clinton again, and how his poor beleaguered incompetent administration is beset on all sides by investigations, indictments, and plea deals.

Trump’s complaining again about how Clinton is the one who needs to be investigated (ignoring that she already was - and that the investigations by FBI, GOP in Congress turned up no criminal wrongdoing). In fact, that’s all they kept turning up. Nothing.

That’s not good enough for Trump, who wants to prosecute his political enemies all while his allies, minions, and his own admin is engaging in criminal conduct that is indictable and resulted in guilty pleas.

Manafort and Gates indicted for criminal wrongdoing during campaign. Papadopoulos guilty plea for lying to FBI. Flynn guilty plea for lying to FBI.

All they’re doing is lying - if there was no underlying wrongdoing, why lie.

Trump and GOP can’t answer any of it because they’re all lying to cover their own asses, and Trump can’t keep his own story straight, so it’s lies all the way down.

The GOP hopes to take advantage of the chaos in the WH to pass this tax scam bill while attentions are focused everywhere and nowhere at the same time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:18:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:26:20am
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:28:33am

Tsk, tsk. Poor Bill O

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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:30:57am

re: #224 FormerDirtDart

Tsk, tsk. Poor Bill O

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Here’s hoping she pulls down another $32 mil.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:31:44am

re: #225 makeitstop

Here’s hoping she pulls down another $32 mil owns FOX afterwards.

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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:32:12am

…the fuck??

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Sea Mexican!  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:33:49am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

resisting the obvious joke…

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Disheartening… What happened to professional courtesy? :P

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:36:16am

re: #226 Belafon

That’d be too brilliant.

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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:36:47am

re: #228 Sea Mexican!

Disheartening… What happened to professional courtesy? :P

I busted that one out already. :)

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Stanley Sea  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:37:27am

It’s getting windy here already (SoCal inland)

My bamboo fencing on my patio may be in a precarious position…..

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Sea Mexican!  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:38:10am

re: #230 makeitstop

I busted that one out already. :)

Ah, sorry. I didn’t see it (damn post before reading whole thread).

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:38:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:41:47am
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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:42:35am

re: #227 makeitstop

Lewandowski’s trying to spin things as though Manafort is evil, and insulating himself from the fallout of the indictments.

It’s all so much bullshit.

Lewandowski might not have known who Manafort was, but Trump did. He’s known Manafort for decades, along with Stone. They all have residences in Trump Tower.

Manafort turned around the campaign for all of a couple of weeks because Manafort got Trump off the cameras where he’d spew nonsense daily, but then Lewandowski makes it out to be that Manafort didn’t know what he was doing and was throwing Lewandowski under the bus.

Reality is Manafort was a liability - but he also knows what he’s doing, especially compared to the idiots around Trump. Lewandowski may get to avoid indictments but only by sheer dumb luck.

Trump’s an expert on life? He was born with a gold plated spoon in his mouth, was bailed out by his dad, and then let his creditors take baths repeatedly as he bankrupted his businesses outside of real estate. Trump’s always been a con artist, and he still cons people who should know better. Those who don’t know better think they win with Trump - but they’re the ones getting screwed the most.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:43:43am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

There was a very good article on the UK and Brexit in a local paper this weekend; Fool Britannia.

The parallels between what happened in Britain and what happened in the US are quite noticeable.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:45:02am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:46:44am
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dangerman  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:47:37am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

Texas A&M officially announces hiring of Jimbo Fisher to 10-year, $75 million deal & no state-appropriated funds used to pay the salary. Translation: our donors have deep pockets

but money’s fungible
so they keep telling us re planned parenthood etc

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piratedan  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:48:06am

re: #237 lawhawk

well gee, maybe if they could find out who writes the laws and had control of the rules that determine who pays what then maybe they could find a way… :-)

these guys make me happy that I live so far away or else I’d be entertaining fantasies of my swing a baseball bat against their shins…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:50:42am

heh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:52:35am

did the yam tell moore to head to the nearest mall?

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:53:11am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

Going for the group discount?

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:55:01am

Doug Jones should hold a town hall in the mall where Moore was banned.

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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:55:05am

re: #232 Sea Mexican!

Ah, sorry. I didn’t see it (damn post before reading whole thread).

Great minds think alike. And so do we, apparently! :)

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:56:02am
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dangerman  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:56:06am

re: #237 lawhawk

Sen. McConnell says it’s “impossible” to guarantee tax cut for everyone in middle class cbsn.ws

as you say - piece of cake

define middle class wherever you will
drop those rates
touch nothing else

what mitch means is with this bill we just passed, it’s impossible to guarantee a tax cut to everyone in the middle class

unless he just doesnt understand how the tax law works

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:58:48am
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Belafon  Dec 4, 2017 • 9:59:03am
In the past several weeks, Mueller’s operation has reached out to new witnesses in Trump’s circle, telling them they may be asked to come in for an interview. One person who was recently contacted said it is hard to find a lawyer available for advice on how to interact with the special counsel because so many Trump aides have already hired attorneys…

People familiar with the Mueller team said they convey a sense of calm that is unsettling.

“These guys are confident, impressive, pretty friendly — joking a little, even,” one lawyer said. When prosecutors strike that kind of tone, he said, defense lawyers tend to think: “Uh oh, my guy is in a heap of trouble.”

h/t Balloon Juice

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:01:16am

re: #237 lawhawk

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But it is possible to give one to everyone in the top 1%? Ok

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:01:20am
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:02:06am
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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:06:27am

re: #249 Belafon

There’s a reason for that. Mueller brought on some of the smartest and best prosecutors in the nation to work through this - from multiple angles, from white collar crime, fraud, national security grounds, RICO, etc.

They know the law better than all of Trump’s lawyers, let alone Trump’s advisers who are all lawyered up to the point where Trump lawyers are themselves getting lawyers (many of whom are actually higher quality/caliber than Trump’s direct lawyers).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:09:27am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:12:49am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

Re-endorsements? What I’m blazes

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:12:50am
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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:12:53am
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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:14:07am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump takes that to the extreme - going out of his way to claim chaos and death and mayhem when Muslims, blacks, minorities (including illegal aliens) commit crimes, but turn blind eye when white folks do same or worse.

Look no further than the Nazi who killed Heather Hayer in Charlottesville, or the Las Vegas or Texas church massacres. White guys both responsible for both - with more than 100 killed and 100s injured in the rampages. Trump barely spent a moment on that, but has gone on endlessly about the trial outcome in SF finding an illegal alien not guilty in the murder of a woman (who was white).

It’s all bigotry - xenophobia/Islamophobia - all the time with Trump and the GOP.

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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:14:30am

Preach, Mr. President.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:16:02am

re: #259 makeitstop

Preach, Mr. President.

He’s right. We do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:16:18am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:16:35am

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Citizen K  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:17:20am

re: #259 makeitstop

Preach, Mr. President.

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The problem is that the current leadership seems intent on making it as permanent as all possible, either through vote fuckery or simply destroying the institutions scorched-earth style.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:18:11am
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sagehen  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:18:49am

re: #260 HappyWarrior

He’s right. We do.

It has yet to be proved how “temporary” that absence may be.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:21:49am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:26:46am

Sigh, continued…

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:30:26am

Most likely will be Kim Jong Un

Still hoping for…

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:31:28am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

resisting the obvious joke…

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Digest in peace

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:34:25am

re: #228 Sea Mexican!

Disheartening… What happened to professional courtesy? :P

What a shame; his estate won’t be able to take advantage of the estate tax repeal.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:44:42am

re: #269 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Digest in peace

I don’t see how comparing Wall Street executives and sharks got us Trump or the tax bill.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:48:49am

re: #269 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

One does wonder though, did Marnie of the hotel quality sheets, get quite so incensed about the tax plan or health care or anything else?

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allegro  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:51:08am

re: #272 Colère Tueur de Lapin

One does wonder though, did Marnie of the hotel quality sheets, get quite so incensed about the tax plan or health care or anything else?

If the Wall Street executive died by murder, illness, or terrorism, jokes would be okay?

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:54:25am

Maybe we shouldn’t be in a world where it’s easy to compare Wall Street and sharks. I’d be all for that.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 4, 2017 • 10:59:17am

re: #273 allegro

If the Wall Street executive died by murder, illness, or terrorism, jokes would be okay?

Utterly irrelevant to my question. And, please don’t ascribe intent to my post, I haven’t commented one way or the other, I simply asked a question. Many more are going to die from the health care issues that are cropping up. It’s a fair question.

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allegro  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:00:25am

re: #275 Colère Tueur de Lapin

My apologies. I wasn’t directing that at you, just used your post to kick off what I was thinking.

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Kragar  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:02:12am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:02:38am

re: #277 Kragar

Yes.

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jaunte  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:04:05am

Pearland, Texas (Houston suburb) Christianists are getting frisky.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:04:16am

re: #276 allegro

My apologies. I wasn’t directing that at you, just used your post to kick off what I was thinking.

Okies. It’s all good.

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jaunte  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:04:51am

The substitute teacher mentioned should be named, so she can’t abuse any more children.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:06:43am

re: #277 Kragar

Their actions are going to require us to codify into law norms that every president and representative used to follow formally. We will be somewhat different, in the same way that breaking your arm changes the bone and the person.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:06:46am

re: #281 jaunte

The substitute teacher mentioned should be named, so she can’t abuse any more children.

Name and shame. No district should hire her.

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jaunte  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:07:15am

Another one from last year:

“Were in the class watching a movie,” explained Waleed, “and I was just laughing at the movie and the teacher said, ‘I wouldn’t be laughing if I was you.’ And I said why? She said, ‘because we all think you’re a terrorist.”

Waleed says the class was watching Bend it Like Beckham after their STAAR tests and that after that comment other students started making fun of him.
khou.com

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Kragar  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:08:02am
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Citizen K  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:08:28am

Again, the collateral of this administration…

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allegro  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:10:50am

re: #281 jaunte

The substitute teacher mentioned should be named, so she can’t abuse any more children.

Her accusation is so nuts and pathological she should be court-ordered into mental treatment.

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Kragar  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:11:18am

Whoopsies!

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ericblair  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:12:12am

re: #277 Kragar

Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, used the filibuster to stymie initiatives by President Barack Obama.
Opinion | How the Republicans Broke Congress
We used to blame both parties for our poisonous political environment. Not anymore.
nytimes.com

So, uh, they’re going to knock it off with BOFFSIDES!? I’ll believe it when I see it. Dog to its vomit.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:14:15am

re: #288 Kragar

Whoopsies!

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Well…..they voted for it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:17:21am

re: #277 Kragar

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A bit late, New York Times.

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ericblair  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:17:32am

re: #288 Kragar

LOL! Senate Republicans accidentally set both the corporate tax AND the corporate alternative minimum to 20%. Which would make every single corporate deduction unusable! #GOPTaxScam nymag.com

…aaand here we go. This won’t be the last complete fuckup in this bill. From what I understand about the conference committee, they can’t just start making stuff up. Anything in the final bill has to be from the House or Senate bill, not anything new. So they’re going to have to replace this text with the House text. Which wasn’t meant to “work” with the rest of the Senate text, and I’m guessing is going to blow through the reconciliation limits. Which means they have to take out another Senate goodie, and so on. With any luck this piece of shit will be completely unworkable and radioactive when it has to go through the House and Senate again.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:19:33am

re: #279 jaunte

Pearland, Texas (Houston suburb) Christianists are getting frisky.

That poor kid.

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Jay C  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:26:54am

re: #247 dangerman

as you say - piece of cake

define middle class wherever you will
drop those rates
touch nothing else

what mitch means is with this bill we just passed, it’s impossible to guarantee a tax cut to everyone in the middle class

unless he just doesnt understand how the tax law works

Bullshit. Sen. McConnell understands exactly how the tax law works: he’s merely trying - desperately - to spin this awful bill as something other than the giveaway-to-the-wealthy/take-it-out-on-the-middle-class legislative abortion that it is. And that he jammed through the Senate in defiance of virtually every custom of that Chamber’s standards of debate and review.
F*ck you, Mitch, and the jackass you rode in on……

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dangerman  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:28:44am

re: #289 ericblair

So, uh, they’re going to knock it off with BOFFSIDES!? I’ll believe it when I see it. Dog to its vomit.

looked like a guest editorial to me, not the nyt itself

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dangerman  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:30:59am

re: #294 Jay C

Bullshit. Sen. McConnell understands exactly how the tax law works: he’s merely trying - desperately - to spin this awful bill as something other than the giveaway-to-the-wealthy/take-it-out-on-the-middle-class legislative abortion that it is. And that he jammed through the Senate in defiance of virtually every custom of that Chamber’s standards of debate and review.
F*ck you, Mitch, and the jackass you rode in on……

apologies
i was setting him up as “are you just lying or are you stupid as well?”
- i always forget the long string of required “////////”

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Jay C  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:36:31am

re: #296 dangerman

- i always forget the long string of required “////////”

Heh. I hear you: blog-commenting in the Trump Era is a tricky thing to master……

Off to the next thread.

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VegasGolfer  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:37:04am

re: #285 Kragar

[Embedded content]

The population of Los Angeles county is the same as the state of georgia.
Per capitia income LA County, 42K, per capitia income Georgia, 26K
Not even gonna mention more stats to prove the man is full of crap.

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lawhawk  Dec 4, 2017 • 11:40:26am

re: #292 ericblair

…aaand here we go. This won’t be the last complete fuckup in this bill. From what I understand about the conference committee, they can’t just start making stuff up. Anything in the final bill has to be from the House or Senate bill, not anything new. So they’re going to have to replace this text with the House text. Which wasn’t meant to “work” with the rest of the Senate text, and I’m guessing is going to blow through the reconciliation limits. Which means they have to take out another Senate goodie, and so on. With any luck this piece of shit will be completely unworkable and radioactive when it has to go through the House and Senate again.

This shitshow is exactly as designed.

It’s my understanding that they can reconcile the problem by hiking the corporate rate to 22 or 23% and leaving the AMT at 20%. But that means that they’ll want to make cuts elsewhere, and the math blows up even then.

Actually, that’s the problem.

The GOP doesn’t do math, and none of this adds up. That’s why it’s a mess, and all the crayon markings on napkins amid the grease spots doesn’t help matters.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2017 • 5:25:47pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

Honestly this irritates the shit out of me, it’s the worst aspect of Musk’s personality. He’s a brilliant man who when it comes to marketing the forward thinking technology his companies come up with far too often reverts back to acting like a fucking middle schooler.

Caltech could almost certainly whip together a satellite observatory from the spare parts sitting around at JPL right now and he could launch that but instead he’s gonna go with this bullshit stunt.

My wife will occasionally get annoyed when I get too focused on something. But, as I remind her, she enjoys the benefits that focus have generated for us in terms of income. You can’t have one without the other. I don’t think you could have Elon Musk the forward thinking without the showoffness. At least his launching a car isn’t threatening North Korea. Plus, what happens if the thing blows up?


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