The Bob Cesca Show: Secret Sperm

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Secret Sperm: Not Safe For Work; Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; The latest on the Rob Porter scandal; The White House is keeping a lot of secrets; The FBI alerted Trump about Porter in March; Putin and Trump secretly talked on the phone again; Russian spy chiefs show up in Washington; The Susan Rice email; Sean Hannity and the Case of the Secret Sperm; Obama vs Trump and Russia; Rachel Brand quit; Kislyak’s call to Flynn was recorded; and much more.

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225 comments

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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:14:11pm

Sorry, but I have to ask. Why does he have six fingers on his left hand? Did I miss that for all of these years?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:24:28pm

re: #1 Skip Intro

Sorry, but I have to ask. Why does he have six fingers on his left hand? Did I miss that for all of these years?

You killed my father. Prepare to die.

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:25:20pm

MN dem won her special election.

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:25:59pm

There are today’s special elections.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:27:23pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:27:56pm

re: #5 wheat-dogg

This was shared on Steemit.

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God damn it. I didn’t need to cry tonight.

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:27:58pm

re: #1 Skip Intro

Sorry, but I have to ask. Why does he have six fingers on his left hand? Did I miss that for all of these years?

It’s an oddly cast shadow of the little finger ligament, though at quick glance it does look like the little finger is tucked under. Boney thin hands.

Going by the ring finger, there are 5.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:28:09pm

re: #4 MsJ

There are today’s special elections.

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The wingnut won Georgia. Ugly map, great to see us putting pressure on and kicking ass.

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:28:33pm

re: #4 MsJ

Thanks for finding and sharing!

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:29:07pm

Did we know this happened?

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wheat-dogg  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:29:20pm

re: #7 ObserverArt

It’s an oddly cast shadow of the little finger ligament, though at quick glance it does look like the little finger is tucked under. Boney thin hands.

Going by the ring finger, there are 5.

Obama is not a mutant. (Though I can imagine some RWNJ suggesting it.)

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:30:09pm

re: #7 ObserverArt

It’s an oddly cast shadow of the little finger ligament, though at quick glance it does look like the little finger is tucked under. Boney thin hands.

Going by the ring finger, there are 5.

If Obama wanted 6 fingers, he’d have 6 fingers…

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:30:51pm

Bye bye NYT, hello WaPo. (Plus, I have a thing for Ashley Parker)

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wheat-dogg  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:32:30pm

re: #13 Ace Rothstein

Bye bye NYT, hello WaPo. (Plus, I have a thing for Ashley Parker)

OTOH, Megan McArdle will now write for the WaPo Op-Ed section.

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teleskiguy  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:34:26pm
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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:34:54pm

re: #10 MsJ

Did we know this happened?

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Yeah, there were celebrations here the night that happened as well.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:35:15pm
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Citizen K  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:35:47pm

I’m getting kind of exhausted with how fast our norms keep collapsing. We actually had a major publication put up a piece promoting the idea of indentured servitude.

We’re going to have pitches defending literal slavery at this rate. And it’ll be taken as normal.

Fuck, at least we seem to be getting it done on the electoral side of things, so that’s one small mercy.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:36:01pm

re: #14 wheat-dogg

OTOH, Megan McArdle will now write for the WaPo Op-Ed section.

I pay for the WaPo reporters. They’re doing far far better than NYT.

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:36:23pm

re: #3 MsJ

MN dem won her special election.

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Is that the woman who got thrown out of the lege session for reading oil lobby contributions to Republicans?

Or was that Wisconsin? I forget.

Either way, another win is a good thing!

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:37:00pm

re: #10 MsJ

Did we know this happened?

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From The Hill (in an article in Good winning FL) about the MO ejection mentioned above:

In some cases, Democrats have dramatically overperformed their typical vote tallies. Last week, Democrats won a state House district in Missouri where Trump won by a 61 percent to 33 percent margin.

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:37:41pm

re: #13 Ace Rothstein

Bye bye NYT, hello WaPo. (Plus, I have a thing for Ashley Parker)

The WaPo has been doing great reporting lately.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:37:47pm

re: #21 MsJ

From The Hill (in an article in Good winning FL) about the MO ejection mentioned above:

In other words, people are finally starting to get sick of Trump’s shit.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:39:09pm

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

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scottslemmons  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:39:14pm

re: #23 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

In other words, people are finally starting to get sick of Trump’s shit.

And not just Trump’s shit. I think people notice that their oh-so-moral Republican politicians treat Trump like a god.

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:39:15pm

re: #20 makeitstop

Is that the woman who got thrown out of the lege session for reading oil lobby contributions to Republicans?

Or was that Wisconsin? I forget.

Either way, another win is a good thing!

No. That was in PA. Their election is next month.

Why are there do many special elections lately?

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:41:07pm

re: #20 makeitstop

re: #26 MsJ

That was WV.

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:41:58pm

And it looks like Trump has lost the Chamber of Commerce as far as DACA goes.

Gon’ be some rage tweetin’ goin’ on…..

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:42:21pm

re: #1 Skip Intro

Sorry, but I have to ask. Why does he have six fingers on his left hand? Did I miss that for all of these years?

It is a sperm, obviously.

Obviously.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:42:43pm

re: #28 makeitstop

And it looks like Trump has lost the Chamber of Commerce as far as DACA goes.

Gon’ be some rage tweetin’ goin’ on…..

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That’s okay, he’ll always have ICE.

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gocart mozart  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:43:51pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:44:53pm

re: #25 scottslemmons

And not just Trump’s shit. I think people notice that their oh-so-moral Republican politicians treat Trump like a god.

At this time, I’m sorta thinking they are in-general hating Republican politicians more than Trump.

Maybe there is a little thinking they don’t support Trump enough.

But that’s good, because it just breaks the party up and causes a lot of turmoil for the midterms.

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:49:51pm

Trump won that OK district by +73. I’m thinking Dems won’t pick that one up.

Still no results.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:49:54pm

re: #3 MsJ

MN dem won her special election.

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Yes!!!!! Blue wave 2018.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:50:08pm

re: #31 gocart mozart

Dumb and Dumber.

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:51:20pm

re: #34 Patricia Kayden

Yes!!!!! Blue wave 2018.

FL was a BIG upset. It’s been red for a while. Very red.

That’s what I call a bellwether.

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:52:13pm
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wheat-dogg  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:53:02pm

re: #19 Belafon

I pay for the WaPo reporters. They’re doing far far better than NYT.

re: #22 MsJ

The WaPo has been doing great reporting lately.

Oh, I know. The WaPo does not seem as sympathetic to Trump & Co. as the Times (especially the Thrush-Haberman team).

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:55:09pm

re: #38 wheat-dogg

Oh, I know. The WaPo does not seem as sympathetic to Trump & Co. as the Times (especially the Thrush-Haberman team).

They shouldn’t be sympathetic towards anyone, no matter which party. They should dig and report the truth, wherever it falls.

They’re failing. All the media is failing. Sounds report better than others but they all are pretty bad, of late.

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:55:56pm

If you’re on Twitter, please RT.

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Citizen K  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:56:08pm

re: #38 wheat-dogg

Oh, I know. The WaPo does not seem as sympathetic to Trump & Co. as the Times (especially the Thrush-Haberman team).

The WaPo has always had a problematic Op-Ed section, but it’s clear that their reporting is still damn solid. The Times has been sacrificing their nominally good Op-Ed section, and letting their politics section undermine their normal reporting, and it shows.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:56:43pm

re: #40 MsJ

Speaking of dumb and dumber. Look at those clowns.

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nines09  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:57:18pm

What Sean sees..

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:57:53pm

I stopped in at redstate. Dont ask why

Those people are loons

Article Authors and posters both

Poorly informed or lying or false meme repeating loons

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:58:49pm

“Instead of citizens, it produces consumers. Instead of communities, it produces shopping malls. The net result is an atomized society of disengaged individuals who feel demoralized and socially powerless.”

- Robert W. McChesney

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Jack Burton  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:59:24pm

re: #44 dangerman

I stopped in at redstate.
Those people are loons

Tautology!

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 13, 2018 • 5:59:50pm

Should have happened 50 years ago but I have finally caught the Doctor Who bug. Got this 8x12 aluminum; excuse me, aluminium; TARDIS sign on Ebay:

Next up, a TARDIS model and some Daleks.

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:00:12pm

Lots of specials. I’m assuming we flipped only one in MO last week?

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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:01:40pm

Top Democratic Consultant Resigns Amid Sexual Misconduct Allegations

WASHINGTON ― Democratic consultant Jim Walsh resigned from both of his digital strategy firms on Tuesday, facing allegations of sexual misconduct.

Walsh was the co-founder of the two firms, DSPolitical and Rising Tide Interactive.

“After an incredible 7 years helping to build DSPolitical and Rising Tide Interactive, I’m leaving the team I love,” he wrote Tuesday afternoon on Facebook. “It has been an incredible experience and we’ve achieved so much with our amazing clients. Some of you have already heard from me, but for the rest of you, I’m looking forward to catching up soon. Thanks to you all!”

HuffPost spoke with a woman who said Walsh sexually assaulted her over a decade ago, when she was 21 years old and was looking for advice about how to get into politics. She is involved in politics in Washington state, so she brought her concerns to the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, the national organization that the party works with.

huffingtonpost.com

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:03:27pm

re: #40 MsJ

Sadly, I don’t think Walker can be persuaded to do the right thing. I’ll be ecstatic to be wrong. He just strikes me as someone who doesn’t care about anyone but donors.

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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:04:12pm

re: #50 Patricia Kayden

Sadly, I don’t think Walker can be persuaded to do the right thing. I’ll be ecstatic to be wrong. He just strikes me as someone who doesn’t care about anyone but donors.

He’s 100% owned by the Koch brothers.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:04:40pm

re: #51 Skip Intro

Exactly.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:04:51pm

re: #49 Skip Intro

Top Democratic Consultant Resigns Amid Sexual Misconduct Allegations

huffingtonpost.com

If that guy was a Dem. consultant for the past 7 years then he needs to resign anyways, POS or not.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:05:15pm

Atom smiles for the camera.

qz.com

Really, the camera caught the glow of the atom, which would otherwise be impossible to see with normal camera equipment. Still a cool photo.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:05:20pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:05:50pm

re: #1 Skip Intro

Sorry, but I have to ask. Why does he have six fingers on his left hand? Did I miss that for all of these years?

SHHH! We’re not supposed to talk about that.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:06:43pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Should have happened 50 years ago but I have definitely caught the Doctor Who bug. Got this 8x12 aluminum; excuse me, aluminium; TARDIS sign on Ebay:

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Next up, a TARDIS model and some Daleks.

YAY! Welcome to the Whoniverse. Enjoy your biscuit.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:06:45pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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I’m ready for them to get rid of Kelly and the guy who takes his place too.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:07:38pm

OT, here’s a photo of the murder chicken.

Carried around the Rose Bowl swap meet injuring other shoppers.

Check out those feet - deadly.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:07:54pm

re: #44 dangerman

Nothing wrong with keeping your enemies closer.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:08:11pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Has anyone who has ever hung around Trump ever have ended up with a better reputation?

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:08:49pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

That looks like the Brennan’s rooster.

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BlueGrl21  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:11:18pm

re: #40 MsJ

If you’re on Twitter, please RT.

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Tick took, assholes.

One seat at a time.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:12:35pm

Is Walker up for reelection this year?

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Charles Johnson  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:12:51pm
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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:13:23pm

re: #58 bill d. (b.d.)

I’m ready for them to get rid of Kelly and the guy who takes his place too.

Can’t Trump just fire anybody who wants the job? That would speed things up quite a bit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:13:50pm

re: #20 makeitstop

Is that the woman who got thrown out of the lege session for reading oil lobby contributions to Republicans?

Or was that Wisconsin? I forget.

Either way, another win is a good thing!

West Virginia.

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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:15:12pm

re: #61 bill d. (b.d.)

Has anyone who has ever hung around Trump ever have ended up with a better reputation?

Well he ended up almost making the repulsive Roy Cohn an object of sympathy. Other than that I’d say hell no.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:15:43pm

The New York Times has decided not to hire Quinn Norton.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:16:00pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

The New York Times has decided not to hire Quinn Norton.

Good. They went from 100% disrespect to 95%.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:16:10pm

My random throw out question: Which show has done more damage to the country, Rick & Morty or The Andy Griffith Show?

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Woods Witch  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:16:28pm

re: #51 Skip Intro

Charles Pierce at Esquire politics refers to him as “the goggle-eyed homunculus hired by Koch Industries to manage their Midwest subsidiary formerly known as the state of Wisconsin”

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:19:42pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

The New York Times has decided not to hire Quinn Norton.

And I can’t wait for the inevitable think pieces about how the Times gave in to the mob about hiring someone with Nazi/white supremacist tendencies because of her associations and social media posts in the past.

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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:20:12pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

The New York Times has decided not to hire Quinn Norton.

Unhiring her you mean. Earlier today it was a done deal.

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William Lewis  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:20:56pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Should have happened 50 years ago but I have finally caught the Doctor Who bug. Got this 8x12 aluminum; excuse me, aluminium; TARDIS sign on Ebay:

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Next up, a TARDIS model and some Daleks.

Gotten to Tom Baker yet or are you still on Pertwee? As good as the first three could be, Baker was a treat.

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teleskiguy  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:21:19pm

Instagram

Went tree skiing today. Big mistake, still not enough snow. This was a nice place to take a photo in between slow survival skiing.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:23:27pm
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Kragar  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:24:56pm
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nowherenorth2  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:25:07pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

And it begins with lispy mcsteroids

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:25:24pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

The New York Times has decided not to hire Quinn Norton.

Is this going to be another wingnut 1st amendment issue?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:25:36pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

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Quinn Norton is a leftist? All that gay-bashing, that’s straight up right-wing shit. Deny it all you want, Cernobitch, but you know it deep in whatever passes for a soul among the wingnut right.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:26:08pm

re: #80 ObserverArt

Is this going to be another wingnut 1st amendment issue?

You know it will. And the rubes will uncritically accept it.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:26:14pm

re: #80 ObserverArt

Is this going to be another wingnut 1st amendment issue?

Definitely. They love to play victim.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:27:23pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

Definitely. They love to play victim.

I still maintain that the fundamentalist right’s power base is predicated on fear, and that fear is driven by the politics of victimhood. If they aren’t victims, they aren’t afraid, and if they aren’t afraid, they start thinking for themselves.

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William Lewis  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:27:36pm

re: #71 Belafon

My random throw out question: Which show has done more damage to the country, Rick & Morty or The Andy Griffith Show?

Andy but only because Rick & Morty has not been around long enough yet. Given time, it’ll do far more lasting and worse damage with it’s positive presentation of nihilism.

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:28:19pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

The New York Times has decided not to hire Quinn Norton.

Does the idiot who green-lighted it in the first place lose his/her job, too?

That should happen.

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teleskiguy  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:28:43pm

re: #81 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Quinn Norton is a leftist? All that gay-bashing, that’s straight up right-wing shit. Deny it all you want, Cernobitch Thernovith, but you know it deep in whatever passes for a soul among the wingnut right.

FTFY

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Archangelus  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:29:35pm

Another blue win tonight…

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:32:34pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:33:57pm

Quinn Norton has posted a long thread trying to defend herself.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:34:46pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Quinn Norton has posted a long thread trying to defend herself.

It’ll work for wingnut welfare. Those of us who aren’t completely batshit crazy won’t buy it. End result, nobody will be affected.

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:34:47pm

R won in OK.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:36:35pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:36:51pm

re: #81 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Quinn Norton is a leftist? All that gay-bashing, that’s straight up right-wing shit. Deny it all you want, Cernobitch, but you know it deep in whatever passes for a soul among the wingnut right.

She called Obama the N-word.

In addition to the nazi love & the gay hate.

Not of our people.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:38:43pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Quinn Norton has posted a long thread trying to defend herself.

Maybe she can cheer herself up with Chelsea “crashing” the next nazi wingnut party?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:38:46pm

re: #94 Stanley Sea

She called Obama the N-word.

In addition to the nazi love & the gay hate.

Not of our people.

But good luck convincing any right-wing nutjob of that. Now that Cernobitch has said it, it’s gospel, and she is now officially branded a Child of the Left (tm).

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:40:17pm

re: #94 Stanley Sea

She called Obama the N-word.

In addition to the nazi love & the gay hate.

Not of our people.

WHO HASN’T CALLED OBAMA THE N-WORD?

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A Mom Anon  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:40:32pm

re: #94 Stanley Sea

Yeah, that’s kinda obvious. To anyone who has brain cells that actually fire correctly that is. The stupid is depressing as fuck. But all the stupid and mean together is making me develop a permanent cringe.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:42:09pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Quinn Norton has posted a long thread trying to defend herself.

OMG! Are the nazi wingnuts going to cancel their subscriptions to the New York Times over this!?!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:42:11pm

That’s the one thing that bugs me more than anything else about the rabid right wing. My God, but they do have a scary efficient method of distributing the talking points and sticking to them. It’s creepy how deep the groupthink runs amongst the nutjobs.

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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:42:27pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

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Bullshit

Why on Earth would a lawyer do this?

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Citizen K  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:42:34pm

re: #98 A Mom Anon

Yeah, that’s kinda obvious. To anyone who has brain cells that actually fire correctly that is. The stupid is depressing as fuck. But all the stupid and mean together is making me develop a permanent cringe.

Here be the rub.

The stupid are the only ones getting a voice. And the ones pandering to the stupid are the only ones that run anything around here.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:42:59pm

re: #89 JordanRules

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We’re not going to win them all. And rural whites are going to be stubborn SOBs unless they’re really dependent on things like agriculture, minority labor, and exports. Keep doing what we’re doing, but don’t expect to make the entire House blue.

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Renaissance_Man  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:43:25pm

re: #91 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’ll work for wingnut welfare. Those of us who aren’t completely batshit crazy won’t buy it. End result, nobody will be affected.

I read some of her pieces. They don’t seem especially offensive, not in the sense of a standard wingnut groupthink piece. Her standard opinion pieces don’t have the flavour of a genuinely bigoted opinion. She seems mostly like someone who has hung out with scum for so long that she thinks that’s a normal, just different, point of view, even if she doesn’t necessarily agree with them. Which makes her perfect for a NYT op-ed page.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:44:43pm

Narcissism is worse than stupid.

Stupid includes the possibility of conceding lack of knowledge. Narcissism means there’s no incentive to ever admit being fucking wrong.

This kind of “oh, she’s a leftist now. It Is Known.” turnspeak is the latter. As are all of the conspiracy theories that are thrown out like bait.

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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:44:45pm

re: #101 dangerman

Bullshit

Why on Earth would a lawyer do this?

He wouldn’t. He’s lying, or he got a $130,000 bonus from Trump.

At least now we know the story is true. When will the media ask Melon about it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:46:06pm
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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:46:11pm

re: #106 Skip Intro

He wouldn’t. He’s lying, or he got a $130,000 bonus from Trump.

At least now we know the story is true. When will the media ask Melon about it?

Of course
Gotta remember to use those snark tags.

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:46:35pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson

@Green_Footballs
Whoa. Rats deserting the ship?

9:36 PM - Feb 13, 2018

The Mueller effect…scoring some brownie points maybe?

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:47:13pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:49:20pm

Another amoral shitlord whose ugly past finally bore consequences wants to play the poor misunderstood victim of an angry and unthinking mob.

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bratwurst  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:50:22pm

And who would know better?

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makeitstop  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:50:35pm

re: #101 dangerman

Bullshit

Why on Earth would a lawyer do this?

Yeah, I’m not fully buying it either. Nobody drops 130K of their own money without expecting to get something back.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:50:39pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

Another amoral shitlord whose ugly past finally bore consequences wants to play the poor misunderstood victim of an angry and unthinking mob.

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I will sleep soundly tonight, you stupid bitch. Your past caught up with your present. ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. Also, per the Dopefish’s First Law of the Internet, the Internet is forever. Suck on it.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:51:33pm

re: #101 dangerman

Bullshit

Why on Earth would a lawyer do this?

Sounds like they’re trying to pull an Oliver North.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:51:50pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

Another amoral shitlord whose ugly past finally bore consequences wants to play the poor misunderstood victim of an angry and unthinking mob.

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oh dear god what sanctimonious bullshit

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:52:05pm

re: #104 Renaissance_Man

I’d say it’s a manifestation of…well, I can’t find a way of saying this other than “white people obliviousness.”

Nazism isn’t an existential threat to a white person, so sometimes the company of extreme racists seems…okay…because the oblivious person can’t really imagine this is so fucking dangerous, and you get into an acceptance by inches that racism is just outside the norm, that it’s one trait among many. And eventually you reach the very privileged relativism in which it’s just another opinion, a breach of social etiquette, not something that will get real people hurt.

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:53:34pm

re: #109 ObserverArt

The Mueller effect…scoring some brownie points maybe?

I don’t understand why anyone thinks Cohen is deserting trump. What am I missing?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:54:58pm

re: #117 The Ghost of a Flea

oh yeah…

All of that, but applied to dudes and sexism/homophobia.

I just cut some fuckers off because they just couldn’t make that fucking leap, in spite of being in a fucking PTSD group that was mostly women hurt by men.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:55:24pm

re: #118 MsJ

I don’t understand why anyone thinks Cohen is deserting trump. What am I missing?

Under the assumption the report is at least partially true, it is evidence that Stormy was paid off to retract her accusations.

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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:56:29pm

re: #118 MsJ

I’m missing it too.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:56:47pm
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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:57:04pm
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dangerman  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:57:31pm

re: #118 MsJ

I don’t understand why anyone thinks Cohen is deserting trump. What am I missing?

All I can get is this way it’s not the 130k that was in the fec report

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ObserverArt  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:58:25pm

re: #113 makeitstop

Yeah, I’m not fully buying it either. Nobody drops 130K of their own money without expecting to get something back.

I get the feeling sometimes the Trumpers think they can get away with stuff just by being literal with their words.

In this case, that money came right out of his pocket just as he says. So, he can say just that.

He never said where the money came from did he? Covered…not a lie.

It’s the defense of a ten-year old. Just like something Trump cooked up.

Such as, “I never contacted the Russians” (just others in my employ and family members).

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lawhawk  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:58:38pm

Trump was using Cohen to pay off his dalliances. This opens up Mueller investigation into piercing the attorney client privilege, which Mueller’s already done in the course of this investigation.

He can get Cohen to answer questions directly despite the attorney client privilege if he thinks the money was being used to cover for crimes. Crime fraud exception.

Cohen’s in deep trouble. That means Trump is in trouble.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 6:59:29pm

Another family values conservative caught in a divorce case over adultery.

An Ohio Congressman is divorcing his energy-industry lobbyist wife, alleging adultery. He wants a bunch of money from her as alimony (based on Ohio law).

He is calling Darryl Issa (R-sonist) as a witness in the case, leading to speculation he is the person the other congressman’s wife was adulterating with.

How is it conservatives get to claim liberals are anti-family values? I have never seen a conservative who upheld those traits in my entire life. Or is this another hetero marriage destroyed by Teh Geyh Agenda? And they want to tell us how to live?

Did Darrell Issa Set This Other Congressman’s Marriage On Fire (Get It? He Is an Arsonist) goes to Wonkette

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Charles Johnson  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:00:41pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

Another amoral shitlord whose ugly past finally bore consequences wants to play the poor misunderstood victim of an angry and unthinking mob.

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She’s pretty good with words, though - manages to make it look like she’s being gracious. We need a term for this, like “humble brag,” but for claims of victimhood that don’t look like claims of victimhood.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:00:44pm

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹

It’s funny, the liberal Christians I know have more stable and monogamous marriages than the conservative Christians I know. It’s almost like all of that sexual repression winds up biting them in the ass and they wander off the reservation to blow off all that kinky steam they’ve been storing up their whole lives.

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Renaissance_Man  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:00:56pm

re: #117 The Ghost of a Flea

I’d say it’s a manifestation of…well, I can’t find a way of saying this other than “white people obliviousness.”

Nazism isn’t an existential threat to a white person, so sometimes the company of extreme racists seems…okay…because the oblivious person can’t really imagine this is so fucking dangerous, and you get into an acceptance by inches that racism is just outside the norm, that it’s one trait among many. And eventually you reach the very privileged relativism in which it’s just another opinion, a breach of social etiquette, not something that will get real people hurt.

That’s exactly it.

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MsJ  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:01:37pm

re: #120 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Under the assumption the report is at least partially true, it is evidence that Stormy was paid off to retract her accusations.

I thought that was already admitted to.

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Cheechako  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:03:45pm

The way I see it, yes, Cohen did pay the hush money out of his own pocket before the election. Then Cohen was “formally” hired as trumps lawyer so trump could use the stack of slush money his “re-election campaign” has generated to reimburse Cohen for lawyer stuff.

I’m told real friends do this kinda’ shit for each other.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:03:45pm

re: #131 MsJ

I thought that was already admitted to.

I didn’t think it was, but I admit I haven’t been following the tidal wave of Trump malfeasance all that closely. I already know the jackass is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors.

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bratwurst  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:05:39pm

re: #131 MsJ

I thought that was already admitted to.

I think the paper trail was such that it was not deniable, but this is the first actual admission.

Having said that, I am not getting excited even a little bit. Trump’s supporters hate Obama for not using the right kind of mustard and wearing a tan suit, but will have zero issue whatsoever with Trump’s people paying hush money to a porn star.

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:05:57pm

Trump can now tweet about a White guy winning a gold medal…

/s

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:07:42pm

In all seriousness, Shaun White absolutely nailed it when he had to.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:09:51pm

re: #136 dirkdigglerjr

In all seriousness, Shaun White absolutely nailed it when he had to.

unreal

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:10:03pm

re: #136 dirkdigglerjr

In all seriousness, Shaun White absolutely nailed it when he had to.

That’s why he’s wearing multiple gold medals. He’s the goddamn man.

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:12:11pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:13:16pm

re: #129 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s funny, the liberal Christians I know have more stable and monogamous marriages than the conservative Christians I know. It’s almost like all of that sexual repression winds up biting them in the ass and they wander off the reservation to blow off all that kinky steam they’ve been storing up their whole lives.

And most surveys seem to indicate atheists have the most stable of marriages.

Correlation is not causation, but it would appear religious belief is not an indicator of a stable marriage.

re: #84 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I still maintain that the fundamentalist right’s power base is predicated on fear, and that fear is driven by the politics of victimhood. If they aren’t victims, they aren’t afraid, and if they aren’t afraid, they start thinking for themselves.

Religion is based on fear. Conservatism is based on power (gaining and maintaining it). Thus, conservatism can use religious fear to gain and maintain power. This was the lesson of Paul Wyrich during Reagan’s first campaign against a real religious man, Carter.

Liberals do have a fear tool to drive people to the polls this time round: This election may be your last.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:15:05pm

about what it means to have business people running government like they run their business

An update to Ivanka Trump’s financial disclosure report reveals that she and her husband, Jared Kushner, have taken on millions of dollars in additional debt over the past year, Politico reported Tuesday.

Trump’s updated disclosure form shows that Kushner appears to have tapped three different lines of credit since he began working at the White House.

The changes up the couple’s debts from a range of $19 million to $98 million to being valued at between $31 million and $155 million, according to Politico.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:17:25pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:17:33pm

re: #140 Anymouse 🌹

And most surveys seem to indicate atheists have the most stable of marriages.

Correlation is not causation, but it would appear religious belief is not an indicator of a stable marriage.

I would agree with your latter point, to the religious fundamentalists’ chagrin. The fact is that a stable marriage is more based on the sexual and personal compatibility of the partners than on the religious orientation thereof.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:18:25pm

re: #117 The Ghost of a Flea

I’d say it’s a manifestation of…well, I can’t find a way of saying this other than “white people obliviousness.”

Nazism isn’t an existential threat to a white person, so sometimes the company of extreme racists seems…okay…because the oblivious person can’t really imagine this is so fucking dangerous, and you get into an acceptance by inches that racism is just outside the norm, that it’s one trait among many. And eventually you reach the very privileged relativism in which it’s just another opinion, a breach of social etiquette, not something that will get real people hurt.

There’s also something incubatory about tech culture and those who write about it that causes these people to abandon all normal ethical considerations in their monomaniacal fascination with computers and networking. This causes them to end up bonding with storybook monsters over shallow memes and the meaningless esoteric minutia of their shared channer subculture, while totally ignoring things like how legitimizing nazis causes real harm to the vulnerable minorities that nazis target.

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Cheechako  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:20:12pm

re: #141 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

about what it means to have business people running government like they run their business

An update to Ivanka Trump’s financial disclosure report reveals that she and her husband, Jared Kushner, have taken on millions of dollars in additional debt over the past year, Politico reported Tuesday.

Trump’s updated disclosure form shows that Kushner appears to have tapped three different lines of credit since he began working at the White House.

The changes up the couple’s debts from a range of $19 million to $98 million to being valued at between $31 million and $155 million, according to Politico.

I have a feeling a hugh pyramid of cards is going to be tumbling down in the future.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:20:52pm

re: #143 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I would agree with your latter point, to the religious fundamentalists’ chagrin. The fact is that a stable marriage is more based on the sexual and personal compatibility of the partners than on the religious orientation thereof.

Religious orientation can have a big difference. My first marriage ended when my Presbyterian wife was convinced I was possessed by demons when I developed epilepsy.

She divorced for cause (allowed in Florida). My mistake in my divorce case was my argument I did not want a divorce, I was committed to my wife and son. Instead, the judge gave her everything including my VA disability and turned me out on the street for eleven years.

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whitebeach  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:23:18pm

re: #136 dirkdigglerjr

In all seriousness, Shaun White absolutely nailed it when he had to.

I don’t know shit about the sport, couldn’t tell a 540 from a 900, and my impression of boarders is that they’d be good people to party with if they’d just find a nice warm beach to party on, no need for deep conversation. But after watching Shaun last night and tonight, I’d say that if I happened to find myself in a fight against tough people, I’d want him on my side. I won’t even rib him for crying after we win.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:26:18pm

The view from the land of Derp:

Mexicans Sneak onto US Olympic Team (goes to Weekly World News)

Mexicans sneaking onto the U.S. Olympic Team have been granted amnesty and U.S. citizenship.

Taking advantage of President Trump’s new immigration policy, over thirty-five Mexican athletes decided to march with the U.S. Olympic team, declaring that they are students in the U.S. and/or that they have children in the U.S.

(more at the link, gaaaaa)

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Stanley Sea  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:27:57pm

re: #145 Cheechako

I have a feeling a hugh pyramid of cards is going to be tumbling down in the future.

Or they have a master plan to pay all this shit off, with our $.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:27:58pm

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹

Religious orientation can have a big difference. My first marriage ended when my Presbyterian wife was convinced I was possessed by demons when I developed epilepsy.

She divorced for cause (allowed in Florida). My mistake in my divorce case was my argument I did not want a divorce, I was committed to my wife and son. Instead, the judge gave her everything including my VA disability and turned me out on the street for eleven years.

The personal compatibility has some interaction with the religious orientation. For some people, religious compatibility is trivial (e.g. atheists or especially agnostics). For some people, like conservative wingnuts, it is everything.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:30:10pm

re: #144 goddamnedfrank

Shallowness…

When this popped up, the thing that jumped to mind first was how the already-degraded concept of a public intellectual has taken a fucking nosedive in the age of blogging.

I mean, David Brooks and his back-up team of David Brooks impersonators are awful, but these days there’s so many people that think that stringing together words by itself makes something “smart” and “thoughtful.” Sourcing, context, scholarship in the sense of digging into multiple commentators/thinkers, aren’t things that are valued in general, but the speed of communication is making it worse.

And while there’s many versions of this shallow intellectualism—see every attempt by the “alt right” and the right-on-money fascists to use science; ditto a bunch of health bloggers and “Google university” types—but the one that tends to float like a turd is the pretension that all ideas needed to be weighted equally with no fucking context or background included in the weighing, and that it’s somehow clever and transgressive to go reflexively counterintuitive. It powers every version of “both sides ablooblooblurgh,” if nothing else.

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dirkdigglerjr  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:31:25pm

re: #39 MsJ

As someone who covered the local/state/national political scene for more than 6 years, the approach always to inform or even over-inform the reader. We had Democrats and Republicans who failed to pay taxes, a Board of Election official who was sleeping with the county Democratic Party chairman, a GOP state rep who got a DWI on Christmas Eve (and no primary opponent later), and the reaction to local Rep. Patrick McHenry calling Elizabeth Warren a liar in which I got a call from Rep. John Yarmuth when I thought the only comment I would get would be from a staff member. I honestly don’t get the DC media, other than it must be a cliqueish group where you don’t want to lose “membership.” I always believed in writing for my audience - the reader - not the pols.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:31:44pm

re: #150 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The personal compatibility has some interaction with the religious orientation. For some people, religious compatibility is trivial (e.g. atheists or especially agnostics). For some people, like conservative wingnuts, it is everything.

That’s the thing: At least at the time, my first wife was not a wingnut, she was primarily apolitical (though she supported certain liberal causes like Planned Parenthood).

As far as I can tell, the epilepsy set off a “possessed by demons” alarm in her head.

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Cheechako  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:32:32pm

re: #149 Stanley Sea

Or they have a master plan to pay all this shit off, with our $.

They might think they have a master plan but these people aren’t smart enough to pull it off. Besides, they will probably be residing in a New York State prison in the future.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:34:31pm

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

That’s the thing: At least at the time, my first wife was not a wingnut, she was primarily apolitical (though she supported certain liberal causes like Planned Parenthood).

As far as I can tell, the epilepsy set off a “possessed by demons” alarm in her head.

That hurts. I am sorry. I am lucky that I went the opposite direction, that both Mrs. Fish and I evolved from an extreme conservative bias to become more liberal and to enjoy life together in a much more relaxed environment. But I know exactly what you went through and no doubt it was incredibly painful.

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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:38:02pm

re: #149 Stanley Sea

Or they have a master plan to pay all this shit off, with our $.

They’re probably planning to unload the Javonka real estate disasters on the government, at a profit. I’m sure dad will be happy to help them out.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:40:05pm

re: #155 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Well, I got better, and I have a wife who really loves me, and who I love. Our political views (libertarian versus socialist) create some real loud political arguments such that our whole town can hear the political issues of the day, but other than that, we seem suited to grow old together.

My first marriage lasted eleven years. My homelessness also lasted eleven years. My wife and I will come up on our eleventh anniversary in September. Eleven seems to be important here.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:42:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:44:06pm

Paul McGuire: President Hillary Clinton Would Have Persecuted, Arrested, Fined, Imprisoned, and Perhaps Killed America’s Pastors (goes to Right Wing Watch)

It’s right there in the canon of the United Methodist Church, sheeple.

More at the link (with video):

During his appearance on Rick Wiles’ “TruNews” program on Friday, Paul McGuire, co-author of the book “Trumpocalypse: The End-Times President, a Battle Against the Globalist Elite, and the Countdown to Armageddon,” declared that if Hillary Clinton had been elected president, she would have persecuted, jailed, and “killed America’s pastors.”

“I’ve read many accounts which suggest that she is a practicing witch, part of a witches coven at the very highest levels,” McGuire said. “I think she has a demonic hatred in her—her statement about the ‘deplorables’ revealed what was in her heart.”

“I believe that if Hillary Clinton had become president of the United States,” he asserted, “like Jezebel, she would have persecuted, arrested, fined, imprisoned and perhaps killed America’s pastors, she would have shut down the preaching of the gospel and the gates of hell would have broken loose on our nation.”

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jaunte  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:45:23pm
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whitebeach  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:50:03pm

re: #158 Charles Johnson

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^^^This, damn it. For all the bullshit about how drug companies need to charge outrageous prices because they need the money to save us all with heroic R&D, it’s been literally decades since the industry came up with an effective new antibiotic. The best thing that could happen to our country’s health would be for a government agency along the lines of NASA to take over the whole business and provide their products at cost.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:50:04pm

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I got better, and I have a wife who really loves me, and who I love. Our political views (libertarian versus socialist) create some real loud political arguments such that our whole town can hear the political issues of the day, but other than that, we seem suited to grow old together.

My first marriage lasted eleven years. My homelessness also lasted eleven years. My wife and I will come up on our eleventh anniversary in September. Eleven seems to be important here.

Mrs. Fish and I have devolved from the derp side of American conservatisim together. It’s been a tough road, but she’s seen the feminist arguments as much as I have, and she’s seen how beaten-down her mother and sisters have been as evidence. We’re on the same path to the liberal side, though from opposite sides of the derp wagon.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:50:39pm

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹

The view from the land of Derp:

Mexicans Sneak onto US Olympic Team (goes to Weekly World News)

(more at the link, gaaaaa)

Hate to see that from WWN. How the mighty are fallen…….

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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:52:44pm

Michael Cohen will turn out to be dirtier than Manafort and Lewandowski combined. His ties to Ukraine and Ukrainian money is what first made Trump notice him.

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Interesting Times  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:54:34pm

Sound advice:

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Charles Johnson  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:57:56pm
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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 7:59:36pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

Looks like the NYT uses Trump’s vetting team.

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:02:25pm
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plansbandc  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:03:47pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

It looks like a relative of Beyonce, The Bloggess’ chicken.

thebloggess.com

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:04:25pm

re: #164 Skip Intro

Maybe Corey but Paulie is hard to top. He’s dirty as sin. His own kid thinks he’s murdered folks.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:05:14pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

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JFC don’t give them ideas.

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majii  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:08:16pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

“Quinn Norton has posted a long thread trying to defend herself.”

She can keep writing, but I’m not reading. I don’t care what her political or sexual affiliation is, there’s something known as common decency and she’s demonstrated she has none.

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plansbandc  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:09:26pm

re: #112 bratwurst

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:09:50pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

Scarramooche’d

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:12:54pm
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jaunte  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:13:35pm

re: #175 FormerDirtDart

This is not normal. This is insane.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:14:29pm

re: #123 JordanRules

Michael Cohen doesn’t seem like a very good lawyer

Helluva wing man, though.

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jaunte  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:15:22pm
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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:16:24pm

re: #175 FormerDirtDart

Then instead of taking dictation from lying liars the media should redeploy these people as investigative reporters and report on what’s really going.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:17:16pm

It Doesn’t Get Any Better Than This, Thank God (goes to Juanita Jean’s)

Article includes the story from KDKA Pittsburgh. These are the folks telling atheists we are not moral.

A pastor in western Pennsylvania is speaking out after being accused of open lewdness and indecent exposure after being caught by police with a bound naked man in a car parked on a public street.

The pastor, 61-year-old George Nelson Gregory of Munhall, Pa., tells KDKA-TV in Pittsburgh, “I was counseling a young man with a drug problem.”

“It did turn strange, but it wasn’t my doing, OK? And I was adamant that I’m not participating in that way. And so that’s when the police pulled up, and they assume things, but I’m standing by my story. It’s not true.”

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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:17:24pm

re: #177 Decatur Deb

Helluva wing man, though.

Trump’s Russian money funnel.

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teleskiguy  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:17:58pm

re: #176 jaunte

Giphy

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:18:08pm

re: #178 jaunte

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Sounds like a good reason to copy the video.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:19:24pm

re: #176 jaunte

This is not normal. This is insane.

If you need another reason to get out and vote, here it is.

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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:20:36pm

re: #180 Anymouse 🌹

I see you and raise you this.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:21:49pm

WTFITS

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:24:40pm

re: #176 jaunte

This is not normal. This is insane.

I know. Maggie badmouthing Trump or his administration? The world is upside down.

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Belafon  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:25:40pm

re: #186 The Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

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The problem is that Mike Pence isn’t listening to Jesus.

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Skip Intro  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:25:47pm

re: #178 jaunte

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:30:22pm

re: #188 Belafon

The problem is that Mike Pence isn’t listening to Jesus.

Too much Geyh. That guy hung around with twelve dudes.

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Jay C  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:31:08pm

re: #187 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I know. Maggie badmouthing Trump or his administration? The world is upside down.

Or maybe it’s just a matter of Maggie (and a non-trivial number of her professional colleagues) finally falling headfirst into the Trump Administration’s “credibility gap” and finding it to be a wide, deep trench mostly full of reeking shit. WH “officials” basically telling reporters -openly - that they can’t trust anything said officials might say?
Great.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:32:57pm

re: #191 Jay C

Or maybe it’s just a matter of Maggie (and a non-trivial number of her professional colleagues) finally falling headfirst into the Trump Administration’s “credibility gap” and finding it to be a wide, deep trench mostly full of reeking shit. WH “officials” basically telling reporters -openly - that they can’t trust anything said officials might say?
Great.

It didn’t stop Judith Miller and the New York Times from lying us into the Iraq War.

My guess is Maggie Haberman is just concerned that liberal readers are calling her out, and she needs attention. She still has a book to sell.

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gocart mozart  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:37:24pm
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gocart mozart  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:37:58pm
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stpaulbear  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:44:47pm

re: #180 Anymouse 🌹

I spent a lot of time listening to NPR yesterday and today because I had a work meeting 5 hours away from the office. One of the stories I heard was about how deportation of immigrants is going to destroy Christian churches in America.

“Mass deportation of current immigrants would do nothing less than cripple American Christianity for generations to come,” says Samuel Rodriguez, who prayed at President Trump’s inauguration. “If you deport the immigrants, you are deporting the future of Christianity.”

Needless to say, I was a lot more concerned about the immigrants than about the Christian churches.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:45:40pm

re: #180 Anymouse 🌹

It Doesn’t Get Any Better Than This, Thank God (goes to Juanita Jean’s)

Article includes the story from KDKA Pittsburgh. These are the folks telling atheists we are not moral.

“Honest officer, it wasn’t my sheep either.”
“Sheep?”

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:50:15pm

re: #191 Jay C

Or maybe it’s just a matter of Maggie (and a non-trivial number of her professional colleagues) finally falling headfirst into the Trump Administration’s “credibility gap” and finding it to be a wide, deep trench mostly full of reeking shit. WH “officials” basically telling reporters -openly - that they can’t trust anything said officials might say?
Great.

(That was actually snark.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:51:27pm

re: #196 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

“Honest officer, it wasn’t my sheep either.”
“Sheep?”

Born and raised in Western PA, I can vouch that there are PLENTY more kinky pastors doing VERY NAUGHTY THINGS while fleecing their flocks.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 13, 2018 • 8:55:28pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:00:04pm

re: #195 stpaulbear

I spent a lot of time listening to NPR yesterday and today because I had a work meeting 5 hours away from the office. One of the stories I heard was about how deportation of immigrants is going to destroy Christian churches in America.

Needless to say, I was a lot more concerned about the immigrants than about the Christian churches.

Churches are well on their way to plop plopping and fizz fizzing away like Alka Seltzer tablets!

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:01:30pm

re: #199 Ace-o-aces

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:02:13pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:02:50pm

I still remember the very kinky things several pulpit pimps did in my hometown of Ambridge PA…And they got away with it…

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:02:52pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:04:40pm

Heed the words of Supply Side Jay-Zuss to the poor whose benefits are cut by Republicans!

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:06:43pm

SEATTLE — The chief counsel for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Seattle has been charged with stealing immigrants’ identities.

Raphael A. Sanchez, who resigned from the agency effective Monday, faces one count of aggravated identity theft and another of wire fraud in a charging document filed Monday in U.S. District Court.

Prosecutors with the Justice Department’s Public Integrity Section allege that Sanchez stole the identities of seven people “in various stages of immigration proceedings” to defraud credit card companies, including American Express, Bank of America and Capital One.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:08:00pm
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whitebeach  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:08:35pm

re: #198 Joe Bacon 🌹

Born and raised in Western PA, I can vouch that there are PLENTY more kinky pastors doing VERY NAUGHTY THINGS while fleecing their flocks.

Back in my college beat-bro days, I wrote a silly little skit in which one of the characters was a rough but happy shepherd named Flock Ewe.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:08:55pm
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Romantic Heretic  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:13:50pm

re: #26 MsJ

Rats leaving a sinking ship.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:16:22pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:16:30pm

how am i supposed to enjoy apopukar science writer who perpetuates myths like this?

pt may not look it, but all the glass on Earth is flowing downward under the relentless drag of gravity. Remove a pane of really old glass from the window of a European cathedral and it will be noticeably thicker at the bottom than at the top. That is the sort of “flow” we are talking about.

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whitebeach  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:19:56pm

re: #206 goddamnedfrank

If the DEA didn’t already exist, ICE would be the crookedest alphabet agency ever brought forth upon this continent, and yes, I’m including Mexico. If I were king, if I were king, if I but had my crown, I’d send every last one of them to the Aleutian Islands to keep an eye on the waves and tides.

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whitebeach  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:22:12pm

re: #212 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

how am i supposed to enjoy apopukar science writer who perpetuates myths like this?

pt may not look it, but all the glass on Earth is flowing downward under the relentless drag of gravity. Remove a pane of really old glass from the window of a European cathedral and it will be noticeably thicker at the bottom than at the top. That is the sort of “flow” we are talking about.

You have empirical evidence, then, that this is not the case?

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JordanRules  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:22:39pm
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Ace-o-aces  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:26:39pm

Seriously, I knew that just from watching Law & Order.

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:28:27pm

re: #203 Joe Bacon 🌹

I still remember the very kinky things several pulpit pimps did in my hometown of Ambridge PA…And they got away with it…

“Ted Haggard Is Completely Heterosexual” by Roy Zimmerman

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:30:44pm

re: #214 whitebeach

You have empirical evidence, then, that this is not the case?

aside from the time i sat staring at a stained glass window for 600 years, there’s this:

EVEN so rational a subject as science has its myths. And like the more
traditional sort, scientific myths are often used to illustrate a
general truth. One myth which weaves its way from textbook to textbook
is that the reason the glass in old windows (especially medieval church
windows) is thicker at the bottom than at the top is because
glass, despite its apparent solidity, is actually a liquid. Given enough
time, therefore, it will flow from the top of a window pane to the
bottom, accumulating there as a perceptible bulge.
In the abstruse world of physics, glass is indeed classified as a liquid
(albeit a supercooled and therefore not very mobile one). The myth of
the ancient window pane has therefore been thought of as a good way to
show students that the everyday meaning of the word “liquid” is not
completely subverted by thinking of glass as a liquid too.
Putting the myth to the test, several researchers have recently made a
stab at calculating how fast glass actually flows. Unfortunately for the
textbooks, the latest estimate, made by Yvonne Stokes of the University
of Adelaide, and which will be reported in the Proceedings of the Royal
Society next month, is that it would take over 10 million years for a window
pane to flow perceptibly.

thefoa.org

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danarchy  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:38:22pm

re: #218 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

aside from the time i sat staring at a stained glass window for 600 years, there’s this:

EVEN so rational a subject as science has its myths. And like the more
traditional sort, scientific myths are often used to illustrate a
general truth. One myth which weaves its way from textbook to textbook
is that the reason the glass in old windows (especially medieval church
windows) is thicker at the bottom than at the top is because
glass, despite its apparent solidity, is actually a liquid. Given enough
time, therefore, it will flow from the top of a window pane to the
bottom, accumulating there as a perceptible bulge.
In the abstruse world of physics, glass is indeed classified as a liquid
(albeit a supercooled and therefore not very mobile one). The myth of
the ancient window pane has therefore been thought of as a good way to
show students that the everyday meaning of the word “liquid” is not
completely subverted by thinking of glass as a liquid too.
Putting the myth to the test, several researchers have recently made a
stab at calculating how fast glass actually flows. Unfortunately for the
textbooks, the latest estimate, made by Yvonne Stokes of the University
of Adelaide, and which will be reported in the Proceedings of the Royal
Society next month, is that it would take over 10 million years for a window
pane to flow perceptibly.

thefoa.org

The study sited there is more than a couple decades old and some more recent ones have it orders of magnitude off. It would actually take on the order of a billion years for cathedrral glass to flow about 1nm

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Anymouse 🌹  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:39:27pm

re: #218 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Trinity College (Dublin) recorded a pitch tar (asphalt) drop after the experiment ran for sixty-nine years.

tcd.ie

Begun in October 1944, the Pitch Drop experiment, at Trinity College Dublin’s School of Physics, is one of the world’s oldest continuously running experiments.

This curiosity of an experiment demonstrates that pitch is a material that flows - albeit it with an incredibly high viscosity. Whilst pitch has been dropping from the funnel since 1944, nobody had ever witnessed a drop fall - they happen it happens roughly only once in a decade! In May 2013, with the latest drop about to fall, Prof. Shane Bergin broadcast the experiment via the web. On July 11th 2013, the drop dripped. You can see a time lapse video of this here. Tracking the evolution of the drop, Profs. Weaire & and Hutzler, and Mr. David Whyte calculated the viscosity of the pitch to be 2x107 Pa s - approximately 2 million times the viscosity of honey.

The time-lapse video has attracted considerable global media attention. Discover Magazine named the Trinity Pitch Drop in their top 100 science stories of 2013 and a feature article in Nature News was the 3rd most-read piece on their website in 2013.

(more at Trinity College’s link above)

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whitebeach  Feb 13, 2018 • 9:57:51pm

re: #218 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

re: #219 danarchy

Your science seems right, even though, as often happens, it spoils a good tale.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:02:11pm

re: #174 Decatur Deb

Scarramooche’d

Will you do the fandango?

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Kragar  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:06:26pm
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Grunthos the Flatulent  Feb 13, 2018 • 10:29:12pm

re: #57 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

YAY! Welcome to the Whoniverse. Enjoy your biscuitjellybaby.

FTFY

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 14, 2018 • 4:16:10am

re: #195 stpaulbear

I spent a lot of time listening to NPR yesterday and today because I had a work meeting 5 hours away from the office. One of the stories I heard was about how deportation of immigrants is going to destroy Christian churches in America.

Needless to say, I was a lot more concerned about the immigrants than about the Christian churches.

It’s an interesting issue. My parents’ church almost closed because the extremists in it pulled out and created their own church out on the prairie. Then immigrants, Asian but mostly African, came in to worship. But they bring their own customs of intolerance.


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