Video: Colbert on Trump’s Cringeworthy Day With Emmanuel Macron

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Donald Trump welcomed the French President and First Lady to the White House. Or at least he tried to.

Stay tuned after the absurdly offensive “dandruff-brushing” dominance ritual for Trump’s handshake with Macron; it’s more like the start of a wrestling match than a real handshake, as Macron and Trump jockey for position and roughly yank each other around.

What’s going on in our White House is so freaking bizarre.

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191 comments
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Scottish Dragon  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:01:34pm

So Trump really is an orangutan….

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:04:49pm

re: #1 Scottish Dragon

So Trump really is an orangutan….

And when he turns to display his orange ass, believe me, don’t look.

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:05:06pm

Somehow, I have doubts that the “congenial” air of yesterday survived Macron’s speech before Congress earlier today.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:05:17pm

What’s grinding my gears? Beltway reporters reflexively circling the wagons around Chozick.

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Kragar  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:05:38pm
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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:06:27pm
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Teukka  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:09:23pm

re: #5 Kragar

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Kragar  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:10:42pm
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DodgerFan1988  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:10:57pm

If it’s true they caught the Golden State Killer, this must be the best news of the year.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:12:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:14:37pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

What’s grinding my gears? Beltway reporters reflexively circling the wagons around Chozick.

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There’s also no proof Chelsea is lying either other than anti Clinton biases.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:15:26pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Glenn’s a hypocritical asshole.

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S'latch  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:16:21pm

Macron Gets Groomed

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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:23:06pm
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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:23:39pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

That’s straight from the Department of Redundancy Department.

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:27:27pm
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Scottish Dragon  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:28:44pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

What’s grinding my gears? Beltway reporters reflexively circling the wagons around Chozick.

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The chattering class always defends its’ own.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:30:21pm

Sorry if posted before but the images of this comet coming out are incredible.

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Teukka  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:33:34pm

re: #18 Amory Blaine

Sorry if posted before but the images of this comet coming out are incredible.

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I friggin’ lurve science :)

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:35:10pm

re: #16 lawhawk

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The article does actually go on to acknowledge that the GOP has massively outspent the DNC and shown a mixed (at best) record in retaining seats. They’ve been reduced to celebrating wins where they barely scraped by.

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darthstar  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:36:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:37:28pm

re: #21 darthstar

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FNC will be having Fabio and Kayne to discuss global warming next week.

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Kragar  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:38:43pm
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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:39:57pm

Trump’s vanity and ego-stroking knows no bounds.

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darthstar  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:41:06pm

I was in my car this morning listening to Macron’s speech. At first, I could hear all of Congress applauding his historical references to Lafayette and Alan Seeger…then, after he finished with the historical commonalities, he said he was not a fan of rabid nationalism, and the volume of the response decreased by half. By the time he got to “There is no Planet B” I could tell that the Democrats were going ape shit and the Republicans were hoping to god they weren’t caught on camera cringing.

I was actually applauding while I drove.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:41:33pm

re: #23 Kragar

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I really loathe that organization. Can’t even give the guy credit. Had to go BUT IF HE HAD A GUN. He didn’t have a gun and he managed to prevent things from getting worse but I get it, that gets in the way of your lies about guns that you need to spread to your members to make them feel better about being paranoid loesrs that need to bring guns with them to have waffles all the while telling themselves it’s the liberals that are the snowflakes. Unlike your organization, I’m not a paranoid freak who needs a weapon on me at all times. JFC just thank Mr. Shaw and stop thinking about your guns for once.

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:41:48pm

re: #23 Kragar

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Yeah, let’s call up Philando Castile and ask him if the NRA rushes to defend lawfully armed black men.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:42:03pm

re: #24 lawhawk

Trump’s vanity and ego-stroking knows no bounds.

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Two of the most narcissistic assholes in show business making out with each other.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:42:34pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

Yeah, let’s call up Philando Castile and ask him if the NRA rushes to defend lawfully armed black men.

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I really just wish we could find the NRA’s Russian ties and shut them down once and for all as a hostile foreign organziation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:43:43pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

say it again: it you want to defend your own home with your own gun, then I guess that is your good right and nobody is coming to take that away.

but do not delude yourself into thinking that a public active shooter situation is anything at all similar: there you have to have years of training and experience, good situational awareness and nerves of steel if you expect to do more good than harm.

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Belafon  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:43:52pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

I really loathe that organization. Can’t even give the guy credit. Had to go BUT IF HE HAD A GUN. He didn’t have a gun and he managed to prevent things from getting worse but I get it, that gets in the way of your lies about guns that you need to spread to your members to make them feel better about being paranoid loesrs that need to bring guns with them to have waffles all the while telling themselves it’s the liberals that are the snowflakes. Unlike your organization, I’m not a paranoid freak who needs a weapon on me at all times. JFC just thank Mr. Shaw and stop thinking about your guns for once.

As they said on Daily Kos, this shooting proved once and for all that it’s a person with a guns that performs these kinds of killings. The guy had a gun, four dead. The guy has his gun taken away, no more dead. If, you shoot the person with the gun, you’ve removed the human, therefore he can’t use the gun any more.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:44:45pm

re: #30 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

say it again: it you want to defend your own home with your own gun, then I guess that is your good right and nobody is coming to take that away.

but do not delude yourself into thinking that a public active shooter situation is anything at all similar: there you have to have years of training and experience, good situational awareness and nerves of steel if you expect to do more good than harm.

I know. And oyu know what? I don’t even think these NRA tools really know anything about guns despite what they say anyhow.

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:45:27pm

The banality of evil. That he seems so nondescript is part of the reason he avoided justice for as long as he did.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:46:02pm

re: #33 lawhawk

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The banality of evil. That he seems so nondescript is part of the reason he avoided justice for as long as he did.

Looks like he could be anyone’s grandfather or father.

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:48:21pm

So, the Trump admin tries to defend their Muslim ban at the Supreme Court today, and they had one heck of a closer:

Islam is one of the great countries of the world.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:49:21pm

re: #35 lawhawk

So, the Trump admin tries to defend their Muslim ban at the Supreme Court today, and they had one heck of a closer:

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Islam is one of the great countries of the world.

Me fail geography? THat’s unpossible.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:53:26pm

re: #35 lawhawk

So, the Trump admin tries to defend their Muslim ban at the Supreme Court today, and they had one heck of a closer:

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Islam is one of the great countries of the world.

Trump has the 5 votes on the court that he needs.

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:55:17pm

re: #37 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’ve seen that pundits seem to think the court will rule in favor of Trump, but Kennedy as swing might surprise them.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:56:06pm

re: #37 Joe Bacon 🌹

Trump has the 5 votes on the court that he needs.

I dunno. I don’t think Kennedy is a guarantee but unfortunately I do worry about Thomas, Alito, Roberts, & Gorsuch.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:56:32pm

re: #38 lawhawk

I’ve seen that pundits seem to think the court will rule in favor of Trump, but Kennedy as swing might surprise them.

Hope so.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:57:16pm
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Kragar  Apr 25, 2018 • 12:58:49pm
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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:01:53pm

re: #42 Kragar

And we get the real reason Kanye’s buttering up Trump.

Everyone knows how to play Trump. Everyone.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:02:08pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

Two of the most narcissistic assholes in show business making out with each other.

Ewww.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:06:13pm

Nice of Donald to appreciate Kanye’s hand job. Well, at least a member of his staff appreciated it. Not seeing Donald tweeting “very cool”

Surprisingly (not) still not a mention of James Shaw Jr’s selfless act
Maybe if James had said he was inspired by Donald’s “I would run in there even if I didn’t have a weapon” statement

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:06:29pm

re: #21 darthstar

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Is dragon energy like tiger blood?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:07:58pm

re: #46 Eventual Carrion

Is dragon energy like tiger blood?

I don’t really care much about Kanye (his music isn’t my jam and I think the shoes are ugly) but I always kind of internally cringe when I watch someone having what I strongly suspect to be a mental breakdown in public.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:08:54pm

re: #42 Kragar

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Whiners, Jacob. It’s pronounced whiners.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:10:54pm

re: #47 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t really care much about Kanye (his music isn’t my jam and I think the shoes are ugly) but I always kind of internally cringe when I watch someone having what I strongly suspect to be a mental breakdown in public.

This is Kanye. How would you know?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:11:24pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:16:12pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:17:38pm
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Kragar  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:17:39pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:17:41pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:22:38pm

Dragon Energy?
I think we’ve all seen where this goes.
And, it ain’t all that pretty.

Click to Reveal
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Teukka  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:23:12pm

re: #54 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Hit by “car”? Or “hit” by car?

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MsJ  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:29:23pm

re: #21 darthstar

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:31:37pm

re: #57 MsJ

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danarchy  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:31:37pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Dragon Energy?
I think we’ve all seen where this goes.
And, it ain’t all that pretty.

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Isn’t that what Bruce Leeroy uses at the end of the Last Dragon to beat up Sho’Nuff?

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MsJ  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:34:32pm

re: #58 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:34:33pm

re: #33 lawhawk

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The banality of evil. That he seems so nondescript is part of the reason he avoided justice for as long as he did.

I dunno, man. That pic might have seemed banal once, but since November 2016, we now know that’s the typical face of a monster.

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:34:33pm

re: #59 danarchy

The Last Dragon Ending

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:36:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:38:13pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

When does Trump mock Tester for missing fingers or give him a stupid nickname?

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Kragar  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:41:35pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:43:12pm

More revelations about Ronny Jackson from the New York Times.

Can you smell it? Burnt Ronny. He’s done, but watch Trump dig in. Even if Ronny was giving out opioids, which Trump is supposedlly against.

NYT - New Allegations Emerge Against Ronny Jackson as White House Digs In

WASHINGTON — Dr. Ronny L. Jackson, the White House physician nominated to lead the Department of Veterans Affairs, provided “a large supply” of Percocet, a prescription opioid, to a White House military office staff member, throwing his own medical staff “into a panic” when the medical unit could not account for the missing drugs, according to a summary of questionable deeds compiled by the Democratic staff of the Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee.

A nurse on his staff said Dr. Jackson had written himself prescriptions, and when caught, he asked a physician assistant to provide the medication. And at a Secret Service going away party, the doctor got intoxicated and “wrecked a government vehicle,” according to the summary.

The two-page summary fleshes out three categories of accusations — prescription drug misuse, hostile work environment and drunkenness — that threaten to derail President Trump’s nominee. It details the testimony of 23 current and former colleagues of Dr. Jackson, many of whom are still in the military.

…more at link.

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KGxvi  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:44:22pm

So apparently the Golden State Killer was a cop. 12 murders and 50 rapes between 1976 and 1986.

DeAngelo is a former Auburn, California, police officer who was fired in 1979 for shoplifting a can of dog repellent and a hammer from a drugstore, Sacramento County Sheriff Scott Jones. He worked as a police officer in Exeter and Auburn between 1973 and 1979.

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:45:12pm

re: #67 KGxvi

So apparently the Golden State Killer was a cop. 12 murders and 50 rapes between 1976 and 1986.

So, he was a good guy with a gun….

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:45:35pm

re: #66 ObserverArt

More revelations about Ronny Jackson from the New York Times.

Can you smell it? Burnt Ronny. He’s done, but watch Trump dig in. Even if Ronny was giving out opioids, which Trump is supposedlly against.

NYT - New Allegations Emerge Against Ronny Jackson as White House Digs In

It’s not just Trump that’s digging in, it’s wingnuts across the nation. Their entire argument for Jackson’s confirmation is “It’ll piss off the libruls that Trump won!”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:46:42pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

It’s not just Trump that’s digging in, it’s wingnuts across the nation. Their entire argument for Jackson’s confirmation is “It’ll piss off the libruls that Trump won!”

We should tell them we hate it when they castrate themselves.

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:50:20pm

Watching Nicole on MSNBC, and Hallie Jackson is reporting from the White House Ronny Jackson is claiming the car wreck in the Times article is bunk. Says he is going to carry on with the nomination process and thinks he can clear his name.

Fake News!

Good luck Ronny. You just invited even more scrutiny.

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:50:27pm

GOP/Fox will definitely try to pin this on Obama.

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Jay C  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:50:44pm

re: #66 ObserverArt

More revelations about Ronny Jackson from the New York Times.

Can you smell it? Burnt Ronny. He’s done, but watch Trump dig in. Even if Ronny was giving out opioids, which Trump is supposedlly against.

NYT - New Allegations Emerge Against Ronny Jackson as White House Digs In

So might this finally be the “unqualified nomination too far” for the Administration? Or is the Moron-in-Chief going to double down and pressure the Senate Mitch McConnell to ram it through regardless?

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:51:39pm

re: #73 Jay C

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:53:10pm

re: #66 ObserverArt

More revelations about Ronny Jackson from the New York Times.

Can you smell it? Burnt Ronny. He’s done, but watch Trump dig in. Even if Ronny was giving out opioids, which Trump is supposedlly against.

NYT - New Allegations Emerge Against Ronny Jackson as White House Digs In

Dr. Ronny L. Jackson, the White House physician nominated to lead the Department of Veterans Affairs, provided “a large supply” of Percocet, a prescription opioid, to a White House military office staff member, throwing his own medical staff “into a panic” when the medical unit could not account for the missing drugs, according to a summary of questionable deeds compiled by the Democratic staff of the Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee.

So in his position he couldn’t get them Percodan that hadn’t been poisoned with that Acetaminophen crap?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:53:42pm
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Jay C  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:54:58pm

re: #66 ObserverArt

re: #74 lawhawk

Never mind: I think I just found the hook they are likely to use to push Ronny Jackson’s nom through:

…according to a summary of questionable deeds compiled by the Democratic staff of the Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee.

Democrat, so therefore non-credible…

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Skip Intro  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:55:29pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Trump will stick with him and the GOP will approve him. Nothing matters any more but “winning”.

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Jenner7  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:56:55pm

I’m going to be visiting North Carolina and Virginia in mid July. Does anyone know of any good places to visit? So far, we have plans to stay in Raleigh.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:57:23pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

It’s Obama’s fault for not getting rid of him before Trump got there, no??????

‘Cuz that’s going to be the talking point.

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lawhawk  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:57:43pm

Looks like Trump just suckered two new lawyers into representing him:

Marty and Jane Raskin. Both are known for white collar criminal defense.

I don’t think quite know what they’re in for.

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KGxvi  Apr 25, 2018 • 1:59:36pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

It’s not just Trump that’s digging in, it’s wingnuts across the nation. Their entire argument for Jackson’s confirmation is “It’ll piss off the libruls that Trump won!”

From what I’ve gathered, the hostile work environment stems mostly from a rivalry/feud that Jackson had with another doctor in the White House Medical Unit. That’s obviously not great, but I think it’s something that many people who work in offices can at least relate to.

As for the drugs and drinking, it sounds like Jackson may have had an addiction problem. If that’s the case, and he’s sought treatment and continues to work on his recovery, I’m not necessarily willing to hold that against him.

The ultimate problem with his nomination is the problem that was first seen when the nomination was made. Jackson has never led any sort of large organization. He’s the only naval doctor to reach the rank of admiral without leading a naval hospital. Obviously the WHMU is an important position, but it’s much more akin to running a small general practice than a hospital. And running a Department as large as the VA is much more akin to running a hospital than a general practice. That’s the reason he’s not qualified.

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:00:27pm

re: #81 lawhawk

Looks like Trump just suckered two new lawyers into representing him:

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Marty and Jane Raskin. Both are known for white collar criminal defense.

I don’t think quite know what they’re in for.

Better hope they got paid upfront and in full.

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KGxvi  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:04:13pm

Also, I was watching Maddow last night and she made the point that no VA nominee has ever got less than a unanimous vote in the Senate. And a very big reason for that is because the Senators who oversee the VA and other veteran/military issues expect to be kept in the loop and consulted on picks. Trump chose Jackson with no vetting, no interview, and purely on a whim.

I wonder if Jackson felt obligated to accept the nomination because he’s active duty (and also, that should be an issue, active duty personnel should not have cabinet level positions).

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makeitstop  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:16:57pm

Prediction: he’ll plead the Fifth.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:17:06pm
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:18:11pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:20:36pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

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Being the POTUS and all those around’s personal physician would seem to enable a god complex, more than your usual md.

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BeachDem  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:22:19pm

re: #81 lawhawk

Looks like Trump just suckered two new lawyers into representing him:

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Marty and Jane Raskin. Both are known for white collar criminal defense.

I don’t think quite know what they’re in for.

* Overshadowed by the Rudy announcement, Trump also hired married Miami duo Marty and Jane Serene Raskin. They’re actually competent criminal defense attorneys, so I don’t expect them to last long.

abovethelaw.com

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ckkatz  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:30:22pm

re: #79 Jenner7

I’m going to be visiting North Carolina and Virginia in mid July. Does anyone know of any good places to visit? So far, we have plans to stay in Raleigh.

What parts of North Carolina and Virginia do you plan to visit? And do you have any specific areas of interest? (For example - History, Politics, Scenic, etc)

For example, if you plan to be in the Washington DC area, there are lots of things to see. Abingdon Va (bottom of the Shenandoah Valley, near the Tennessee border, would have a different list.)

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SpikeDad  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:33:11pm

re: #23 Kragar

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If the Waffle House mass murderer didn’t have an AR-15 people would still be enjoying their waffles.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:35:00pm

I’m taking the rest of the week off of work, because it turns out there’s such a thing as too much vacation, or at least too much accrued vacation!

So, I took Rango for a nice long walk in our favorite park, Laurelwood/Sugarloaf Mountain. It’s really beautiful right now, probably the peak of Spring green before it starts drying up.

The view up the canyon from the top of the dam…

Rango, checking to see who else has been commenting before posting…

The Trail Center had built a new trail connecting the far meadow area with a trail to the top of the hill, so Rango and I headed up to the top. Lots of wildflowers, but I think these were the prettiest. “Chinese Houses”, aka San Francisco collinsia, growing right next to the trail.

Close to the top of the hill, the oak woods and chaparral give way to grassland, and there are a gazillion flowers right now. Here are some poppies, some lupine, and some of those little purple bastards that you see all over every grassy area on the Peninsula this time of year.

“WE MADE IT, MA! TOP OF THE WORLD, MA!!”

Hey, YOU try and take a selfie outdoors with a Greyhound and get the sign into it, too!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:35:02pm

9 Thoughts About Chris Cillizza’s 9 Thoughts About That Epic Pic Of The Trumps And Macrons

wonkette.com

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whitebeach  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:35:26pm

re: #18 Amory Blaine

Sorry if posted before but the images of this comet coming out are incredible.

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I always suspected, but never really knew, that the surface of a comet would be pretty much like Wisconsin.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:35:37pm
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Jenner7  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:37:52pm

re: #90 ckkatz

We’ll be staying closer to the coast in VA and NC. We’re looking for historical places, places of interest, and places to hike. We’re already planning on visiting Duke and a Plantation in Creswell.

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wrenchwench  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:40:36pm

re: #79 Jenner7

I’m going to be visiting North Carolina and Virginia in mid July. Does anyone know of any good places to visit? So far, we have plans to stay in Raleigh.

Just an hour down the freeway (or whatever they call them there), Greensboro International Civil Rights Center & Museum, formerly known as Woolworth’s. There’s also a bike shop that’s practically a museum, but to each one’s own.

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darthstar  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:44:03pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:46:01pm

re: #91 SpikeDad

If the Waffle House mass murderer didn’t have an AR-15 people would still be enjoying their waffles.

THAT’S CRAZY TALK!!

The presumption is ALWAYS that there is no possible circumstance under which the Bad Guy can’t get any gun his heart desires, easily and cheaply - even though there are plenty of other countries where somehow, the Bad Guys don’t seem able to get hold of guns.

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makeitstop  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:46:20pm

I’m wondering who Trump wanted to spy on. CNN staff? NYT editors? Congressmen?

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ckkatz  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:46:55pm

re: #96 Jenner7

We’ll be staying closer to the coast in VA and NC. We’re looking for historical places, places of interest, and places to hike. We’re already planning on visiting Duke and a Plantation in Creswell.

I’ll dig up and post a more complete list of suggestions later. But off the top of my head…

Virginia
- Colonial Williamsburg
- Yorktown
- Virginia Beach (At the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay. Major naval base.)
- Great Dismal Swamp

North Carolina
- Kitty Hawk and Outer Banks

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Archangelus  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:53:58pm
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Archangelus  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:56:12pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:57:07pm

Jury Duty is done for another year. Another day off without using my own time. I just took a look at amazon’s deals. For those who are interested the Instant Pot Duo Mini is a Deal of the Day at $55.99 and yes I bought one.

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Jenner7  Apr 25, 2018 • 2:57:37pm

re: #101 ckkatz

Thanks so much!

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:07:12pm

re: #86 Ace-o-aces

We should have recognized that Kardashianism was a precursor to Trump.

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gocart mozart  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:09:12pm
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danarchy  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:09:59pm

re: #104 PhillyPretzel

Jury Duty is done for another year. Another day off without using my own time. I just took a look at amazon’s deals. For those who are interested the Instant Pot Duo Mini is a Deal of the day at $55.99 and yes I bought one.

Speaking of deals, walmart currently has $100 off on the ipad mini 4 if anyone is looking for an excuse to spend money.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:13:13pm
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TedStriker  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:13:33pm

re: #107 gocart mozart

If true, holy shit…

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KGxvi  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:14:20pm

re: #106 freetoken

We should have recognized that Kardashianism was a precursor to Trump.

You got that backwards… Trump was a precursor to Kardashianism. Why did Trump become famous in the 80s? Because he was rich and went on TV as much as he could. He didn’t actually accomplish anything of note, he just got his ugly mug on TV and magazines as much as possible. Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, Wrestlemanias at the Trump Taj Mahal, Larry King whenever they didn’t have someone else to talk to… Trump is the ur-Kardashian.

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Sea Mexican!  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:14:28pm

re: #83 Targetpractice

Better hope they got paid upfront and in full.

Would that be in Trump Gold(ish) Coins or US dollars?

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:15:25pm

re: #110 TedStriker

If true, holy shit…

Maybe I’m just dense, but I don’t see this information being all that news-grabbing.

As VB’s just-now post of poll numbers shows, pretty much there is no moving of public opinion from what it is now.

And as Trump bragged, he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and his marks would still back him.

And, unfortunately, so would most Republicans in Congress.

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KGxvi  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:18:33pm

re: #97 wrenchwench

Just an hour down the freeway (or whatever they call them there), Greensboro International Civil Rights Center & Museum, formerly known as Woolworth’s. There’s also a bike shop that’s practically a museum, but to each one’s own.

That reminds me, Jones bike shop in Long Beach, that had been around since the 30’s1910 closed down a couple weeks ago. Owners wanted to retire, rent was apparently going up, some chatter that the manager(s) may try and buy and reopen in a new place. It was sad to see such a long standing independent bike shop shutter.

Then again, that seems to be in the air. The Don the Beachcomber not too far down PCH also recently closed because the building owner either wanted to sell or redevelop the property.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:18:43pm

re: #112 Sea Mexican!

Would that be in Trump Gold(ish) Coins or US dollars?

Either one is good…Obama would have paid them in Ameros.//

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makeitstop  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:19:22pm

re: #110 TedStriker

If true, holy shit…

What’s more, Putin was the only world leader they wanted information on.

This shitstorm has been in the works for years.

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wrenchwench  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:21:50pm

re: #114 KGxvi

That reminds me, Jones bike shop in Long Beach, that had been around since the 30’s closed down a couple weeks ago. Owners wanted to retire, rent was apparently going up, some chatter that the manager(s) may try and buy and reopen in a new place. It was sad to see such a long standing independent bike shop shutter.

Then again, that seems to be in the air. The Don the Beachcomber not too far down PCH also recently closed because the building owner either wanted to sell or redevelop the property.

Bike industry in general is on the decline, unless you put a motor on it. The only sports that are growing are hiking and running.

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gocart mozart  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:22:02pm
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Jenner7  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:22:04pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:22:23pm

Cohen pleads the 5th in Stormy Daniels case…as expected.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:23:23pm

re: #120 ObserverArt

Cohen pleads the 5th in Stormy Daniels case…as expected.

What does this mean for the case?

And if Cohen pleads the 5th, can he really represent himself?

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KGxvi  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:24:46pm

re: #117 wrenchwench

Bike industry in general is on the decline, unless you put a motor on it. The only sports that are growing are hiking and running.

It’s interesting though, the owners had the business for about 25 years, wonder why they didn’t sell, especially if the manager was willing/able to buy. Hopefully the guy can buy it and reopen in a more affordable location. I hate it when old businesses close up shop, and 108 years is a long, long time.

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makeitstop  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:25:16pm

re: #119 Jenner7

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Called it.

(Yeah, I know. Bold prediction.)

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:26:24pm

re: #121 freetoken

What does this mean for the case?

And if Cohen pleads the 5th, can he really represent himself?

He has lawyers. It means he probably knows anything he says is going to be held against him. I think he knows he is in a tough spot. Squeezed by the prosecutors on one end, squeezed by being Trump’s lackey lawyer on the other.

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KGxvi  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:29:18pm

re: #121 freetoken

What does this mean for the case?

And if Cohen pleads the 5th, can he really represent himself?

Not much of anything, really. Just that they won’t be able to get much/any direct testimony or evidence from Cohen. But they’ll still be able to pursue evidence from other places.

And they’ll still be able to depose him, he’ll have to assert the privilege on every question, then they’ll have to go before the judge to determine whether it’s a valid assertion of the privilege.

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whitebeach  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:29:59pm

re: #105 Jenner7

I agree with ckkatz’s list with one exception: Unless you have a deep interest in naval aviation, scratch Virginia Beach off the list. I recall its beach as being one of the ugliest in the continental US, and if you do decide to stop there, don’t book a room near the top of the hotel, as the naval jets will sound like tornadoes going overhead.

Once you’re in NC, if you like barbecue, I’d detour a little from the coast to the Rocky Mount area, a mecca for eastern-NC style BBQ. I wish I could send you to the great Melton’s, but it was wiped out years ago in Hurricane Floyd. Even so, you can’t go very wrong here. When you smell the hickory smoke and you’re hungry, pull in. Keep in mind this is eastern NC. Don’t look for gooey red sweet/sour sauce. Eastern BBQ is mainly about vinegar and peppers.

Enjoy your trip.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:30:02pm

re: #124 ObserverArt

If Trump is still President when Cohen gets a criminal trial (will he? with what will he be charged?), I wonder if Trump will be able to restrain from commenting daily on the court proceedings.

I realize that the Stormy case is a civil case. For this, is it a bad thing for Cohen to not testify? Can not a jury find him culpable of damages just on the evidence that is probably currently in the hands of the FBI?

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Jenner7  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:31:13pm

“The mob takes the Fifth Amendment,” Trump said at a campaign event in Iowa later that month. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

businessinsider.com

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Jenner7  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:32:39pm

re: #126 whitebeach

Thanks!

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KGxvi  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:32:41pm

re: #127 freetoken

If Trump is still President when Cohen gets a criminal trial (will he? with what will he be charged?), I wonder if Trump will be able to restrain from commenting daily on the court proceedings.

I realize that the Stormy case is a civil case. For this, is it a bad thing for Cohen to not testify? Can not a jury find him culpable of damages just on the evidence that is probably currently in the hands of the FBI?

In a civil trial, the trier of fact (jury or judge) may draw a negative inference from invoking the Fifth Amendment privilege. But they are not required to. It will also prohibit Cohen from being able to testify at trial or via declaration for motions on anything that he previously asserted the privilege on. So, he’s potentially put himself in a bind on the civil suit, but he’s probably more worried about the criminal case against him.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:34:08pm

If I were to go to Virginia (again, having lived worked there for a few months long ago) I’d head to the UofV archives, where they house the state’s archives.

As I have early Virginia ancestors, doing genealogy research on them might finally answer some long standing questions.

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wrenchwench  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:35:05pm

re: #122 KGxvi

It’s interesting though, the owners had the business for about 25 years, wonder why they didn’t sell, especially if the manager was willing/able to buy. Hopefully the guy can buy it and reopen in a more affordable location. I hate it when old businesses close up shop, and 108 years is a long, long time.

Real estate has got to be outrageous there. I’ve been in the same location for 19 years, I’m on my third landlord, and (don’t tell anyone) I’ve actually had a little rent decrease.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:35:34pm

re: #130 KGxvi

That’s what I thought - by not saying anything in the civil case, the jury/judge is going to be predisposed to believe the statements that Cohen refuses to refute because he’s not going to comment on them.

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:36:33pm

Rudy getting in on ‘things’ now too. Met with Mueller to negotiate some kind of deal for a Bob & Donny talk about obstruction. Probably trying to find the lay of the land too…snooping around.

WaPo - Giuliani reopens negotiations about presidential interview with Mueller, but cautions special counsel that Trump remains resistant

Rudolph W. Giuliani, President Trump’s new personal lawyer dealing with the ongoing probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election, met with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III on Tuesday to reopen negotiations for a presidential interview, ­according to three people familiar with the talks.

Giuliani, who joined Trump’s legal team last week, conveyed the ongoing resistance of Trump and his advisers to an interview with federal investigators, but did not rule out the possibility, the people said, adding that Giuliani pressed Mueller for clarity on when the probe is expected to end.

In response, Mueller reiterated that he would like a chance to ask Trump questions about steps he took during the transition and early months of his administration, the people said. The special counsel emphasized, as he did in conversations in March with Trump’s team, that an interview is essential for investigators to understand Trump’s intent in making key decisions as they seek to wrap up the portion of the probe focused on potential obstruction of justice.

The people familiar with the meeting requested anonymity to describe the encounter because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

The face-to-face discussions ­illustrated how Giuliani is functioning as Trump’s chief liaison and lead negotiator with the special counsel. The meeting renewed talks that had largely faltered since the resignation last month of John Dowd, a veteran lawyer who was serving as Trump’s lead outside attorney on the investigation.

“I’m doing it because I hope we can negotiate an end to this for the good of the country and because I have high regard for the president and for Bob Mueller,” Giuliani said in an interview with The Washington Post last week.

Trump said in a statement last week that Giuliani “wants to get this matter quickly resolved.”

…more at the link.

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Archangelus  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:37:56pm

If you’re wondering whether by “douchebag lawyer” I meant ‘a lawyer who is a douchebag’ or ‘the lawyer for the douchebag’, then the answer is “yes”… /

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KGxvi  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:39:17pm

re: #132 wrenchwench

Real estate has got to be outrageous there. I’ve been in the same location for 19 years, I’m on my third landlord, and (don’t tell anyone) I’ve actually had a little rent decrease.

Yeah, they had a huge spot in a rather high rent neighborhood (I’m guessing somewhere in the $4-5/sq ft range). They’d been there for as long as I had been going around there (mid-90s, when I was in high school).

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:42:44pm

re: #127 freetoken

If Trump is still President when Cohen gets a criminal trial (will he? with what will he be charged?), I wonder if Trump will be able to restrain from commenting daily on the court proceedings.

I realize that the Stormy case is a civil case. For this, is it a bad thing for Cohen to not testify? Can not a jury find him culpable of damages just on the evidence that is probably currently in the hands of the FBI?

I think we have to see Cohen being in at least two messes now. Possibly two charges/trials…though I am not a law expert.

First case, the one he is pleading the 5th is Stormy’s lawyer suit of Trump which has turned to Cohen not coming clean about the actual legals aspects of how he did the NDA.

The other case might be Cohen’s raid and searches of his living and office spaces, etc. Seems a whole pile of other legal problems are coming out of that, like is he a lawyer if he has one or three clients and what does he do for Trump and how all that may be obstruction, etc.

Before it is all over Cohen is going to get a real lesson in law.

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Jenner7  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:43:05pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:44:42pm
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KGxvi  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:46:11pm

re: #133 freetoken

That’s what I thought - by not saying anything in the civil case, the jury/judge is going to be predisposed to believe the statements that Cohen refuses to refute because he’s not going to comment on them.

There’s a balancing test that applies when it comes to instructions on how to treat the privilege. It comes down to the party’s Fifth Amendment interests, the other party’s right to a fair trial, and the availability of evidence from other sources.

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Archangelus  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:46:19pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:48:43pm
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KGxvi  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:48:51pm

Ok, one more point: he (and some other party) are seeking a stay of proceedings in the civil case, thus the title of the declaration “joint ex parte application for stay.” That’s not entirely unusual - if there’s a criminal case and a civil case relating to the same incident, the civil trial will often be stayed until the criminal matter has been resolved.

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Jenner7  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:49:45pm

lol

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:52:31pm

re: #144 Jenner7

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lol

Hey Chance…did anyone say you did?

Or, do most Blacks go Democratic for reasons?

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:56:07pm

re: #126 whitebeach

I agree with ckkatz’s list with one exception: Unless you have a deep interest in naval aviation, scratch Virginia Beach off the list. I recall its beach as being one of the ugliest in the continental US, and if you do decide to stop there, don’t book a room near the top of the hotel, as the naval jets will sound like tornadoes going overhead.

Once you’re in NC, if you like barbecue, I’d detour a little from the coast to the Rocky Mount area, a mecca for eastern-NC style BBQ. I wish I could send you to the great Melton’s, but it was wiped out years ago in Hurricane Floyd. Even so, you can’t go very wrong here. When you smell the hickory smoke and you’re hungry, pull in. Keep in mind this is eastern NC. Don’t look for gooey red sweet/sour sauce. Eastern BBQ is mainly about vinegar and peppers.

Enjoy your trip.

I feel like I should speak up in defense of Virginia Beach, but I can’t really offer one. Other than the Virginia Aquarium & Marine Science Center and the Military Aviation Museum, I honestly cannot think of any real reason to visit this city. Particularly this weekend, which is known locally as “College Beach Weekend,” which is when hundreds of college drunks descend upon the Oceanfront to do their part in dropping property values.

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KGxvi  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:56:16pm

re: #144 Jenner7

I miss the old Pie Filter, I wish there was a way to use it for statements by any member of the Trump clan

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KGxvi  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:57:02pm

re: #146 Targetpractice

I feel like I should speak up in defense of Virginia Beach, but I can’t really offer one. Other than the Virginia Aquarium & Marine Science Center and the Military Aviation Museum, I honestly cannot think of any real reason to visit this city. Particularly this weekend, which is known locally as “College Beach Weekend,” which is when hundreds of college drunks descend upon the Oceanfront to do their part in dropping property values.

That’s an argument against?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:59:18pm

re: #145 ObserverArt

It really does come down to what I see as the fundamental difference between the parties these days: are you interested in making sure people are treated equally in the eyes of the law (and hopefully society) or are you more motivated by your own self-interest.

History means that for a lot of minorities, Democrats can appeal to both types of people - because even those minorities who might be motivated out of self-interest are going to see that the Democrats are the party working to improve their lot. The exceptions to this are, in most cases, going to be those who have enough money to insulate them from the realities of the life “regular” people face.

This is, of course, an oversimplification, but the general strokes work pretty well as a framework.

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Targetpractice  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:59:35pm

re: #148 KGxvi

That’s an argument against?

Very much so. We’ve had riots, shootings, stabbings, and assorted other drunken stupidity go on in past years. If you wanted to rob a bank, you’d have an easier time of this weekend because most every cop in Virginia Beach will down at the Oceanfront.

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gocart mozart  Apr 25, 2018 • 3:59:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:00:35pm

re: #144 Jenner7

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lol

Shift?!? Kanye West praises Dumbo’s Dad and Chance says black people don’t have to be Dems? Shift you say that word, don’t think you know what it means.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:01:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:02:07pm

re: #149 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It really does come down to what I see as the fundamental difference between the parties these days: are you interested in making sure people are treated equally in the eyes of the law (and hopefully society) or are you more motivated by your own self-interest.

History means that for a lot of minorities, Democrats can appeal to both types of people - because even those minorities who might be motivated out of self-interest are going to see that the Democrats are the party working to improve their lot. The exceptions to this are, in most cases, going to be those who have enough money to insulate them from the realities of the life “regular” people face.

This is, of course, an oversimplification, but the general strokes work pretty well as a framework.

Exactly.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:02:48pm

re: #143 KGxvi

Ok, one more point: he (and some other party) are seeking a stay of proceedings in the civil case, thus the title of the declaration “joint ex parte application for stay.” That’s not entirely unusual - if there’s a criminal case and a civil case relating to the same incident, the civil trial will often be stayed until the criminal matter has been resolved.

At some point doesn’t that “some other party” have to be revealed by name?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:04:41pm
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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:05:37pm

Dr. Lincoln tries again, which I think is good, but he’s still not fully addressed the the knotty question of why we can’t recast the “two frames” argument as applying to the earth, when we cast the experiment as the earth and star moving and not the guy in the rocket:

Twin paradox: the real explanation (no math)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:07:47pm

re: #156 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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You know what that means. When the tornadoes do show up, we’re gonna get an ass-whuppin’.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:07:47pm

I don’t think black people have to be Democrats. I think black people WANT to be Democrats but hey here’s a stupid and tried out Dem plantation joke that you’ve heard before.

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KGxvi  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:08:10pm

re: #151 gocart mozart

I’ve been thinking a lot about what I read over the weekend on AI potentially eliminating 60% of jobs. The impact of that, if it were to come to pass, would be incredibly far reaching. It could potentially tank the commercial real estate market as computers would take a lot less space than people. It could mean we could/would have to convert a lot of commercial/industrial properties to residential use, and we’d still likely end up with a lot of empty buildings.

I am also still intrigued by the housing first program that GW Bush had that was based on the simple idea of giving homeless people a place to live as the first step in solving homelessness and all the other issues that come with it.

That along with the idea of universal basic income and/or a federal jobs guarantee are going to be occupying a lot of my time in the near future.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:08:33pm

re: #144 Jenner7

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KGxvi  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:09:31pm

re: #155 freetoken

At some point doesn’t that “some other party” have to be revealed by name?

It’s probably in the moving papers. It’s just that the only thing I’ve seen is that declaration.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:10:04pm

re: #161 Ace-o-aces

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I think he meant big balls. He’s a racist asshole but I don’t he meant anything with using the basketballs.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:11:28pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

I don’t think black people have to be Democrats. I think black people WANT to be Democrats but hey here’s a stupid and tried out Dem plantation joke that you’ve heard before.

I think that the reason they lean hard Democrat right now is because the Democratic party is the one that is actually committed to doing at least some of the things that try to untilt the playing field against them.

If we managed that world where racism had been eradicated and its trickle-down effects mitigated, do I think they would still predominantly vote D? My gut says no, that the split is going to morph into something much more balanced, because they are human in the same way as any other group of people. But this is all supposition anyway.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:12:11pm

I just bought a Breville oven so I tested it out by making pizza.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:15:10pm

re: #157 freetoken

Dr. Lincoln tries again, which I think is good, but he’s still not fully addressed the the knotty question of why we can’t recast the “two frames” argument as applying to the earth, when we cast the experiment as the earth and star moving and not the guy in the rocket:

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The fancy footwork is in the definition of the reference frames. In the earth-star system, the person is staying within the same inertial reference frame. In the spaceship, however, the person is changing between 3 inertial reference frames. He starts from the earth-star reference, then he is on a high-speed journey away from earth (reference 2), then he is on a high-speed journey toward earth (reference 3). In that sense, there’s no way to cast the earth-star system as the thing that moves, because it’s not undergoing any acceleration (changing reference frames).

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:15:35pm

re: #161 Ace-o-aces

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Heh, I was wondering about those basketballs too.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:17:09pm

Oh god, I have to leave the internet now!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:17:23pm

re: #167 ObserverArt

Heh, I was wondering about those basketballs too.

I read it as “balls”.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:17:59pm

re: #166 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The fancy footwork is in the definition of the reference frames. In the earth-star system, the person is staying within the same inertial reference frame. In the spaceship, however, the person is changing between 3 inertial reference frames. He starts from the earth-star reference, then he is on a high-speed journey away from earth (reference 2), then he is on a high-speed journey toward earth (reference 3). In that sense, there’s no way to cast the earth-star system as the thing that moves, because it’s not undergoing any acceleration (changing reference frames).

Be sure to watch closely the video. Dr. Lincoln points out that acceleration has nothing to do with the difference. This is why he replaces the original twin-paradox with a thought experiment with a new traveler, “C”.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:19:59pm

re: #164 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I think that the reason they lean hard Democrat right now is because the Democratic party is the one that is actually committed to doing at least some of the things that try to untilt the playing field against them.

If we managed that world where racism had been eradicated and its trickle-down effects mitigated, do I think they would still predominantly vote D? My gut says no, that the split is going to morph into something much more balanced, because they are human in the same way as any other group of people. But this is all supposition anyway.

Yeah I think you said it better than I could. Most African-Americans lean hard Democratic because yeah the party is actually committed on those issues. Obviously, the Dems can’t take those voters for granted and in fact in recent years I think they’ve gotten better at it. I really like how Doug Jones specifically thanked African-American women as being the backbone of the party in his victory speech.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:20:37pm

re: #170 freetoken

Be sure to watch closely the video. Dr. Lincoln points out that acceleration has nothing to do with the difference. This is why he replaces the original twin-paradox with a thought experiment with a new traveler, “C”.

Fair enough. After all, there’s not supposed to be any math.

I did have to go to Wikipedia to try and understand why the question was so difficult, and in the process, learned that there’s still quite a bit of active debate on the role acceleration plays in causing the disparate aging.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:20:38pm

re: #168 Ace-o-aces

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Oh god, I have to leave the internet now!

Dragon energy? Basically they have no energy because dragons are mythological creatures.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:21:56pm

re: #169 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I read it as “balls”.

That’s how I read it too. I don’t think there was anything ballsy said. Kanye’s been kissing up to Trump for sometime and Chance didn’t say anything that courageous. No one’s said that black people have to be Democrats ever. In fact, it could be a neutral comment for all I know.

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:22:40pm

re: #169 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I read it as “balls”.

Yeah, but you have to admit basketballs carry some meaning too. Thus the wondering.

I admit, I don’t give a lot of room for a Trump doing the right thing. Call it based on history.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:26:30pm

re: #157 freetoken

Dr. Lincoln tries again, which I think is good, but he’s still not fully addressed the the knotty question of why we can’t recast the “two frames” argument as applying to the earth, when we cast the experiment as the earth and star moving and not the guy in the rocket:

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Because the situations are not symmetrical. One frame has undergone acceleration, which is not relative, and the other one has not. Special Relativity can’t handle this.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:27:02pm

re: #175 ObserverArt

Yeah, but you have to admit basketballs carry some meaning too. Thus the wondering.

I admit, I don’t give a lot of room for a Trump doing the right thing. Call it based on history.

I suspect that being on the spectrum makes Happy and me read it without filtering it through our justified bias against Trump people.

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freetoken  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:27:21pm

re: #172 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Fair enough. After all, there’s not supposed to be any math.

I did have to go to Wikipedia to try and understand why the question was so difficult, and in the process, learned that there’s still quite a bit of active debate on the role acceleration plays in causing the disparate aging.

The problem with paradox-creating is that in constructing a paradox we can put in cryptic assumptions.

In this case, you are correct that in the twin-paradox that acceleration has been inserted, with the guy on the rocket having to make a U-turn at the star.

This is the real problem, in my opinion, with the twin-paradox: by introducing that turn the construction confuses the issue.

This is why Dr. Lincoln went to a new model of the problem, with an extra actor, “C”.

Yet, and Dr. Lincoln didn’t make this clear, his new model of the issue is not a perfect representation of the original twin-paradox. The original twin-paradox hides the fact that there are three reference frames, not two.

This takes some careful thought, and as someone who didn’t do so well in my Special Relativity class in college (in fact, of all my physics classes it was the one in which I got my lowest grade), I’ve had to struggle to work through my own mis-understandings.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:27:50pm

re: #175 ObserverArt

Yeah, but you have to admit basketballs carry some meaning too. Thus the wondering.

I admit, I don’t give a lot of room for a Trump doing the right thing. Call it based on history.

That’s certainly fair.

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BlueGrl21  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:28:26pm

re: #142 gocart mozart

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Maybe Kanye doesn’t care, because he’s Kanye, but he is alienating a HUGE swath of his fans. Many of them are my son’s age and his generation, as a whole, cannot stand Trump. And his African-American audience aren’t Trump fans either. The middle aged white vote is not exactly Kanye’s demographic.

Dumb ass.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:29:42pm

re: #177 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I suspect that being on the spectrum makes Happy and me read it without filtering it through our justified bias against Trump people.

I dunno man. I think Trump Jr really meant to say big balls and found the biggest ball emoji he could find. I’m not saying it’s wrong to think that he could have meant something else but I think here individually it could be the most simple explanation. I think it’s adorable that Donnie Jr is trolling Twitter looking for black people that even say somewhat nice things about his Dad and ignoring that it was black voters’ disgust with him that allowed us to win a seat in Alabama of all places.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:30:18pm

re: #180 BlueGrl21

Maybe Kanye doesn’t care, because he’s Kanye, but he is alienating a HUGE swath of his fans. Many of them are my son’s age and his generation, as a whole, cannot stand Trump. And his African-American audience aren’t Trump fans either. The middle aged white vote is not exactly Kanye’s demographic.

Dumb ass.

Yeah all Kanye’s going to do here is impress a bunch of old farts like Trump and his son who never were listening to his music anyhow.

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BlueGrl21  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:30:21pm

re: #180 BlueGrl21

Maybe Kanye doesn’t care, because he’s Kanye, but he is alienating a HUGE swath of his fans. Many of them are my son’s age and his generation, as a whole, cannot stand Trump. And his African-American audience aren’t Trump fans either. The middle aged white vote is not generally Kanye’s audience.

Dumb ass.

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ObserverArt  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:33:27pm

re: #177 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I suspect that being on the spectrum makes Happy and me read it without filtering it through our justified bias against Trump people.

Keep in mind I did say wondering. You know, like in a quick glance and going hmm. It wasn’t an outright declaration that I just knew those basketballs were a racists statement. Call it an uncomfortable situation. : )

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BlueGrl21  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:35:32pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

Yeah all Kanye’s going to do here is impress a bunch of old farts like Trump and his son who never were listening to his music anyhow.

He’ll get the, “Look, the blacks love me!” treatment. Trump will use him for every drop of “my black friend” energy he can find.

But hey, if Kanye is being real and genuinely likes Trump and the MAGA scene, OK. Just gives me another reason to listen to more talented artists like Kendrick Lamar.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:36:31pm

re: #185 BlueGrl21

He’ll get the, “Look, the blacks love Trump!” treatment. Trump will use him for every drop of “my black friend” energy he can find.

But hey, if Kanye is being real and genuinely likes Trump and the MAGA scene, OK. Just gives me another reason to listen to more talented artists like Kendrick Lamar.

Exactly. I’ve never been a big Kanye fan anyhow. I find him obnoxious as hell. Between him and Donald, there’s old enough air to fill up a fleet of hot air balloons.

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gocart mozart  Apr 25, 2018 • 4:53:52pm
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The Major  Apr 25, 2018 • 5:10:57pm

re: #165 The Vicious Babushka

I love my Panasonic Counter-top Induction Oven - it’s pricey, but it rocks….cooks/bakes damn near everything: from pizza to hamburgers, it’s one mean piece of kitchen kit…..

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2018 • 5:43:40pm

re: #96 Jenner7

Wilmington, NC is pretty interesting. Old coastal town with the characteristic charm and Spanish Moss. An old battleship, some nice beaches, and a nice aquarium down at Fort Fisher. Also a state park at the remains of a Civil War era fort (seaward side has eroded into the ocean already.)

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 25, 2018 • 5:48:34pm

re: #126 whitebeach

I agree with ckkatz’s list with one exception: Unless you have a deep interest in naval aviation, scratch Virginia Beach off the list. I recall its beach as being one of the ugliest in the continental US, and if you do decide to stop there, don’t book a room near the top of the hotel, as the naval jets will sound like tornadoes going overhead.

Once you’re in NC, if you like barbecue, I’d detour a little from the coast to the Rocky Mount area, a mecca for eastern-NC style BBQ. I wish I could send you to the great Melton’s, but it was wiped out years ago in Hurricane Floyd. Even so, you can’t go very wrong here. When you smell the hickory smoke and you’re hungry, pull in. Keep in mind this is eastern NC. Don’t look for gooey red sweet/sour sauce. Eastern BBQ is mainly about vinegar and peppers.

Enjoy your trip.

A couple of museums and things in Norfolk, VA. MacArthur stuff, a museum related to the naval stuff in the area which also includes an old battleship (USS Wisconsin). I also visited the Norfolk Botanical Garden while the Camillas were blooming when I stayed there overnight on one trip.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 26, 2018 • 9:20:12am

re: #128 Jenner7

“The mob takes the Fifth Amendment,” Trump said at a campaign event in Iowa later that month. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

businessinsider.com

Thanks for clearing that up, “Don”.


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