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Kragar  Aug 26, 2018 • 9:30:00pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 26, 2018 • 9:37:00pm

re: #1 Kragar

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But “Q-asshole” sees nothing wrong with a convicted felon with a fetish for pink underwear replacing McCain OR a world class asshole who advocates spraying vinegar in the air to counteract chemtrails…

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Dave In Austin  Aug 26, 2018 • 9:38:02pm

Tonites Forge…. MAKING A FALCHION

MAKING A FALCHION!!!! Part 1

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piratedan  Aug 26, 2018 • 9:41:57pm

re: #1 Kragar

Mrs. McCain might actually be a relatively decent choice considering the enormous quality and depth of Derp that is the Arizona GOP. It’s been rumored (whispered actually) that she still retains some semblance of a soul and while that would disqualify her in a political debate in AZ Politics, the Gov is able to do as he wishes (and he’s a loon as well, but a PR savvy one) and thusly, may appoint her.

To be honest, she would be a step above (IMHO) Martha McSally, Kelli Ward and Sheriff Joe and that would even include the remainder of the GOP Congressional representatives that currently hold office.

I could see Ducey following this as somewhat established protocol although to be honest, if McCain had resigned or even switched parties the outcome could have been even more positive. Granted, I will acknowledge the man for some of the stands he took and the few efforts he made that actually served the common good, but make no mistake, he could have done a LOT more had he shown the political will to do so.

In a sense, I think he was just as flummoxed as a lot of old line GOPers are about how to handle the nascent racism and idiocy (if not outright corruption and lack of ethics) that comprise not only the rank and file but much of the leadership.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 26, 2018 • 9:52:36pm

re: #1 Kragar

“Characterologically”

What insane bastardization of English is this??

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 26, 2018 • 10:24:25pm

I’m so glad Twitter gave this asshole a blue check, aren’t you!

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Kragar  Aug 26, 2018 • 10:49:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2018 • 11:20:14pm
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TedStriker  Aug 26, 2018 • 11:23:00pm

re: #7 Kragar

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The second from the right on the back row looks like he could be a fucking serial killer…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2018 • 11:28:18pm

re: #7 Kragar

what this picture smell like?

PSK?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 26, 2018 • 11:35:23pm

re: #10 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

what this picture smell like?

PSK?

Phi Sigma Kappa, frat bros gonna frat bro.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2018 • 11:38:05pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

Phi Sigma Kappa, frat bros gonna frat bro.

They cannot even be bothered to use Greek letters?

I once (very briefly) considered joining a fraternity, Beta Theta Pi, because my older bro was a member and their frat house was directly across the street from the Geology Building, and that would have meant being able to sleep in until 7:45 for an 8:00 class.

But I was never cut out for fraternity life.

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austin_blue  Aug 26, 2018 • 11:40:12pm

Last week’s Infrastructure Week was a big success! We’re moving forward to MAGA!

Well, there was that little hiccup about McCain’s death, but, bygones.

Drumpf has been part of 17% of the Greatest Bull Market Ever, but Oboma’s 83% was a fucking disaster.

Meanwhile, quietly, quietly, Mueller’s team, without leaking a fucking word, slowly turns the vise grips on Drump’s balls. It’s going to get worse. The remarkable thing for me is that they didn’t offer Cohen immunity. That means one simple thing:

They didn’t need anything that he had to give them.

Think about that. He was burnt toast. What they recovered from raiding his electronics and paper files was sufficient to put him in prison. Not a very good lawyer, was he? Not very prudent, as GHW Bush would say.

Drumf’s accountant is a different story. That’s the motherfucker who has the juice. He has the tax returns, the financial records, the proof that the Russian money that Fredo Jr. bragged about providing their working capital ten years ago after American banks quit loaning Daddy money after his abject failure as a CEO will bring Daddy down.

It’s going to be a fun new Infrastructure Week, isn’t it?

Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 26, 2018 • 11:45:17pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 26, 2018 • 11:48:36pm

re: #14 Ace-o-aces

MPORTANT: President Trump currently presides over the longest running bull market in modern financial history, and the longest streak of job growth ever.

typical liberal, always blaming the previous administration…

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Scout  Aug 26, 2018 • 11:49:45pm

re: #14 Ace-o-aces

I’m sure you’ve seen this already:

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wheat-dogg  Aug 26, 2018 • 11:59:45pm

re: #16 Scout

Priceless!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 27, 2018 • 12:00:36am

re: #14 Ace-o-aces

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The GOP currently presides over the longest running bullshit market in modern political history, since Reagan’s embrace of the religious right 1980 in fact. There’s a sucker born (again) every minute.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Aug 27, 2018 • 12:23:50am

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I did the math. Taking into account (1) the current US birth rate and (2) the “crazification factor” as calculated by John Rogers, we’re now up to 2 suckers every minute.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 1:03:20am

From the last thread …

re: #226 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Good point. I was focused on the voodoo cuts and forgot all about the tariffs. Combined with record deficits they will push inflation through the roof.
This raises a thorny question though: Should we still care about the homeless when huge masses of MAGAts find themselves destitute and living on the streets? Would it not be too easy to remember the hate and contempt they spewed on the poor in earlier times?

Not everybody rendered homeless would be a Trump supporter.

As for homelessness, that hate wasn’t just spewed by Trump supporters; conservatives have been doing that for a long time.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 27, 2018 • 1:05:49am
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 1:22:34am

Interesting …

Putting on my computer’s HAZMAT suit and wading into Wingnutville, I attempted to go to SMOTI’s Website.

It would appear that Hewlett-Packard has snapped up gatewaypundit (dot) com … it redirects to an HP Enterprise page. (I didn’t know SMOTI uses “the” in front of his Website name.)

He’s on the Jacksonville mass-murderer though:

Jacksonville Shooter Was Member of Anti-Trump ‘Resistance’ - Referred to Trump Supporters at “Trumptards” - Murdered 4 People

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 1:31:21am

Okay, I’ve seen enough conservative media for one night.

Looking at Deadbart’s article on John McCain shows all the love and concern I’ve come to associate with conservatism while I was in the military and later when I was homeless.

Wow, there isn’t a septic tank big enough to hold the swill from that comment section. A lot of it violates Disqus’s terms of service … I suppose Disqus doesn’t care any more than Twitter or Facebook though.

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Nyet  Aug 27, 2018 • 1:32:08am
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 2:32:25am

Today is my father’s birthday; had he survived the Vietnam War he would be eighty today.

Fair winds and following seas, Dad.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 2:34:45am

Sarah Palin Says John McCain “Had Some Strange People Around Him” (Mother Jones)

Even John McCain’s running mate has to weigh in on all that conservative love for the late Senator.

Poor John McCain can’t die in peace without a last few digs from his former vice-presidential running mate, Sarah Palin. While most of the political world was fondly remembering McCain and issuing sympathetic statements to his family, Palin took the opportunity to make McCain’s death all about her. She went on the click-happy British website DailyMailTV to vent—again—about her frustrations with his staff and advisors during and after the 2008 presidential campaign.

She told the DailyMailTV that McCain lived in the DC “bubble” and was out of touch with real people and as a result, overreliant on his advisors to tell him “what America really wanted.” She went on to say:

I don’t think inherently he necessarily was really connected, so he did rely on people telling him - in polls - telling him and…he went from there.

I think that’s unfortunate because he had some strange people around him and..disloyal people, and you know, I don’t say that as like hate speech or griping about it, it’s just a fact they were just some not nice people.

(more)

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wheat-dogg  Aug 27, 2018 • 2:48:10am

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

After careful consideration and much introspection, I have concluded that I couldn’t give a rat’s ass about what Sarah Palin thinks about anything, much less her would-be boss.

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Lupin  Aug 27, 2018 • 2:49:10am

Sarah Palin was like the canary in the crumbling mine that is the US.

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Lupin  Aug 27, 2018 • 2:52:05am

Garry Trudeau is asking THE question that matters:

Doonesbury

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Lupin  Aug 27, 2018 • 2:54:08am

A hero is a person who, in the face of danger, combats adversity through feats of ingenuity, bravery or strength. John McCain was unarguably a hero. I only wish he had fought for better causes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 2:57:39am

re: #30 Lupin

A hero is a person who, in the face of danger, combats adversity through feats of ingenuity, bravery or strength. John McCain was unarguably a hero. I only wish he had fought for better causes.

As someone noted yesterday, the character of his military service being honourable and his political positions being frequently exasperating can both be true at the same time.

I’m having a beer in honour of my father’s eightieth birthday, after which I’m off to bed.

Good night y’all.

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makeitstop  Aug 27, 2018 • 4:01:19am

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

Sarah Palin Says John McCain “Had Some Strange People Around Him” (Mother Jones)

Yeah, like…Sarah Palin.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 4:31:20am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 4:36:00am

re: #32 makeitstop

Yeah, like…Sarah Palin.

Ha! Too true. As I said last night, Palin owes McCain entirely for her whole grifting existence. It took him a long time to admit she was a mistake but I’m glad he did. She’s a terrible person.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 27, 2018 • 4:47:53am

Nick Confessore had a good, if painful, insight this morning talking about McCain’s rebuttal of the woman who called Obama a foreign Muslim: “I can’t help but think that ultimately the woman won and McCain lost” that showdown. Confessore, of course, was speaking of the direction of the Republican party.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 4:50:13am

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

Over 90% approval rating for your all time favorite (I hope) President within the Republican Party and 52% overall. This despite all of the made up stories by the Fake News Media trying endlessly to make me look as bad and evil as possible. Look at the real villains please!

No.
these are the polls, you are referring to:

between Aug. 18 and Aug. 22 — the president’s approval rating stood at 46 percent approve, 51 percent disapprove.

In a separate NBC/WSJ survey, conducted Aug. 22 through Aug. 25, Trump’s approval rating was 44 percent approve and 52 percent disapprove

you lied

oh, and 56 percent of voters say you have not been honest and truthful about the Mueller probe.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 4:54:28am

re: #35 Barefoot Grin

Nick Confessore had a good, if painful, insight this morning talking about McCain’s rebuttal of the woman who called Obama a foreign Muslim: “I can’t help but think that ultimately the woman won and McCain lost” that showdown. Confessore, of course, was speaking of the direction of the Republican party.

Unfortunately that is true. I thought McCain could have handled that situation better perhaps but he at least defended Obama’s personal character. Romney and Trump would have never done that. McCain was the last GOP nominee that could actually be a decent person. Not so with Mitt and definitely not so with Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:00:31am
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wheat-dogg  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:03:19am

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Unfortunately that is true. I thought McCain could have handled that situation better perhaps but he at least defended Obama’s personal character. Romney and Trump would have never done that. McCain was the last GOP nominee that could actually be a decent person. Not so with Mitt and definitely not so with Trump.

One of the reasons I first supported McCain over Obama was his decency and tendency to put country over party. My support vanished once he chose Palin as his running mate. Granted, he was probably manipulated into choosing her, but that and the Keating 5 scandal were already too many hits against his overall character. In the end, I am glad I voted for Obama and not McCain.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:04:29am

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

Sarah Palin Says John McCain “Had Some Strange People Around Him” (Mother Jones)

you were around him

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wheat-dogg  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:06:43am

I promised an update on my job promotion. As of last week, I am the Director of Teaching Activities — effectively the head — of our unit at the university. I answer to the head of the organization, based in Beijing, and I will have a staff of two office workers and seven other teachers. I get more pay and fewer class hours, but way more administrative work. I’m also in charge of local personnel matters, which given our current line-up of teachers may be very interesting as the term progresses.

Wish me luck.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:07:35am

re: #40 dangerman

you were around him

Let’s remember who “discovered” Sarah Palin and talked McCain’s people into choosing her the next time Bloody Bill Kristol has one of his stopped-clock moments.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:12:19am

re: #39 wheat-dogg

One of the reasons I first supported McCain over Obama was his decency and tendency to put country over party. My support vanished once he chose Palin as his running mate. Granted, he was probably manipulated into choosing her, but that and the Keating 5 scandal were already too many hits against his overall character. In the end, I am glad I voted for Obama and not McCain.

For me, I felt we really needed a break away from the Bush administration’s policies, I genuinely liked Obama early on and thought he was smart enough and would surround himself with people for the job. I’m glad you voted for Obama in the end too. I don’t think McCain would have been a bad President but we made the right choice 10 years ago.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:16:12am

Anyhow, I’ve heard a lot of great stories about how McCain was to people on the opposite side of the aisle especially if they were young staffers. You all saw the elevator intern Kennedy one. McCain was also very gracious to the interns that he met that my former poli sci teacher administered. He took the time to remember my teacher’s name, where he taught, and was always eager to place interns in his office. McCain valued public service like George H.W. Bush and Bob Dole before him. That sort of mindset has been deeply missing from his party since his defeat ten years ago. Instead you get scumbag businessmen like Mitt and Trump who see government as a means of protecting their interests and not the people from the lowest intern to POTUS in our government as people who are serving their country. I have no regrets at all about preferring Obama over McCain but I do wish this was John McCain’s GOP much more than it was Mitt and now Trump’s GOP. A party of bigoted, self absorbed assholes.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:22:10am

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

Over 90% approval rating for your all time favorite (I hope) President within the Republican Party and 52% overall. This despite all of the made up stories by the Fake News Media trying endlessly to make me look as bad and evil as possible. Look at the real villains please!

— Donald J. Trump

I see we have created a new goalpost.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:26:52am

re: #45 Sir John Barron

I see we have created a new goalpost.

My mom says I’m cool guys!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:27:01am

re: #45 Sir John Barron

I see we have created a new goalpost.

90% of the 80% of the 27%? Welp, we might as well quit right now :-(

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:29:58am

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

Over 90% approval rating for your all time favorite (I hope) President within the Republican Party and 52% overall. This despite all of the made up stories by the Fake News Media trying endlessly to make me look as bad and evil as possible. Look at the real villains please!

— Donald J. Trump

Amazing there’s not a link in this tweet.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:36:57am

Meanwhile, America continues to spiral into decline…

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:37:26am

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

This despite all of the made up stories by the Fake News Media trying endlessly to make me look as bad and evil as possible. Look at the real villains please!

We aren’t getting the ‘bad’ and ‘evil’ part from the news media. We’re getting it right from your Twitter feed.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:38:15am

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

Over 90% approval rating for your all time favorite (I hope) President within the Republican Party and 52% overall. This despite all of the made up stories by the Fake News Media trying endlessly to make me look as bad and evil as possible. Look at the real villains please!

— Donald J. Trump

Interesting he’s tweeting this out on the Monday morning after McCain died on Saturday night. Dude can’t take a break from his own self-praise.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:39:10am

re: #51 Sir John Barron

Interesting he’s tweeting this out on the Monday morning after McCain died on Saturday night. Dude can’t take a break from his own self-praise.

If he’s not bragging about himself, he’s crying that he’s not getting enough praise. Really says a lot about the GOP electorate that they prefer Trump over McCain.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:40:40am

Perfect

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:42:29am

re: #53 I Would Prefer Not To

Perfect

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The joke, Solomon’s head.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:44:09am

re: #53 I Would Prefer Not To

Perfect

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“I see you need me to mansplain something to you. Here is my mansplaining. Thank me for mansplaining this to you.”

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:44:13am

re: #47 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

90% of the 80% of the 27%? Welp, we might as well quit right now :-(

Nixon territory

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lizardofid  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:49:33am

re: #53 I Would Prefer Not To

Perfect

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Circular thread? : )

Oh, good morning!

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Stanley Sea  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:56:00am

He is so petty. Such an embarrassment.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:56:40am

re: #58 Stanley Sea

He is so petty. Such an embarrassment.

“Did you see my new Great MAGA poll numbers?”

//

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:57:24am

re: #58 Stanley Sea

He is so petty. Such an embarrassment.

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He’s such a petty piece of shit.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 5:57:47am

re: #59 Sir John Barron

“Did you see my new Great MAGA poll numbers?”

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Actually I think nobody sees them except you

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:00:35am

re: #6 Ace-o-aces

I’m so glad Twitter gave this asshole a blue check, aren’t you!

Was the shooter discovered to be a non-white person?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:02:04am

re: #62 Sir John Barron

Was the shooter discovered to be a non-white person?

Jewish so Roosh the Douche is fixating on how all these mass shooters have been Jewish in some way using very very loose evidence.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:02:38am

re: #16 Scout

I’m sure you’ve seen this already:

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The yellow part was a bubble.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:03:52am

re: #62 Sir John Barron

Was the shooter discovered to be a non-white person?

From the name “Katz”, I guess he assumes he’s Jewish—ergo not white. From the faux-Hebrew font all the names are in, he seems to be implying they were all Jewish—ergo not white. He’s wrong about all the rest AFAIK.

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jeffreyw  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:03:55am

Imgur


Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:04:34am

re: #65 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

From the name “Katz”, I guess he assumes he’s Jewish—ergo not white. From the faux-Hebrew font all the names are in, he seems to be implying they were all Jewish—ergo not white. Hes wrong about all the rest AFAIK.

Right. Fucking bigoted asshole.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:07:27am

It’s quite surreal seeing Donnie cultists and worshipers spend so much time and effort spitting on John McCain’s grave….a man that most certainly all of them voted for. The only people paying respect to McCain are Never Trumpers and the non-Bernie Democrats (you know, actual Democrats).

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:10:23am

re: #68 Dr. Matt

It’s quite surreal seeing Donnie cultists and worshipers spend so much time and effort spitting on John McCain’s grave….a man that most certainly all of them voted for. The only people paying respect to McCain are Never Trumpers and the non-Bernie Democrats (you know, actual Democrats).

I said it while he was alive but the Democrats showed far more respect for McCain’s service than his fellow Republicans did and I really hope Meaghan, Cindy, and the rest of the family know that. I may have disagreed with their Dad/husband more than not, I may have even cursed him a few times, and been annoyed by him but I never doubted his service and love towards this country. His fellow Republicans and I include you Karl Rove in this tried to create doubt about that.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:11:20am

re: #68 Dr. Matt

It’s quite surreal seeing Donnie cultists and worshipers spend so much time and effort spitting on John McCain’s grave….a man that most certainly all of them voted for. The only people paying respect to McCain are Never Trumpers and the non-Bernie Democrats (you know, actual Democrats).

McCain: Lifelong Republican
Trump: not

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:15:24am

re: #14 Ace-o-aces

Bitch please.

The GOP is trying to whitewash the longest sustained stock market bull market by ignoring that 80+% of the increase was on Obama’s watch.

Trump inherited a strong economy and it suddenly is awesome. All while Obama was in the WH, Trump attacked it as weak and growth was awful (including when Obama saw 4% growth or better). Trump gets 4% in a single quarter and he and Fox are celebrating like this is the second coming.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:16:47am

re: #70 dangerman

McCain: Lifelong Republican
Trump: not

That gets me thinking about Mueller too. Mueller has been a Republican ever since he entered public life. Trump quite frankly has been a political hermaphrodite for much of his until he eventually settled on his final stage: Bigoted fuckwad. But I guess that’s what matters more to Republican voters. It doesn’t matter that McCain and Mueller for that matter have served their country in some way since the 1960’s. Nor does it matter that they were serving Republican administrations including the one many Republican voters claim to love. No, they’re not acceptable because they’re not bigoted assholes. This is the modern party of Lincoln. It’d be as if P.T. Barnum replaced Lincoln as the standard bearer after Abe died and I’m sure that’s being unfair to Barnum since he was a better man than Trump is from the little I know of his character.

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MsJ  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:16:51am

re: #4 piratedan

Mrs. McCain might actually be a relatively decent choice considering the enormous quality and depth of Derp that is the Arizona GOP. It’s been rumored (whispered actually) that she still retains some semblance of a soul and while that would disqualify her in a political debate in AZ Politics, the Gov is able to do as he wishes (and he’s a loon as well, but a PR savvy one) and thusly, may appoint her.

To be honest, she would be a step above (IMHO) Martha McSally, Kelli Ward and Sheriff Joe and that would even include the remainder of the GOP Congressional representatives that currently hold office.

I could see Ducey following this as somewhat established protocol although to be honest, if McCain had resigned or even switched parties the outcome could have been even more positive. Granted, I will acknowledge the man for some of the stands he took and the few efforts he made that actually served the common good, but make no mistake, he could have done a LOT more had he shown the political will to do so.

In a sense, I think he was just as flummoxed as a lot of old line GOPers are about how to handle the nascent racism and idiocy (if not outright corruption and lack of ethics) that comprise not only the rank and file but much of the leadership.

Not if she listens to her daughter who has really gone to the dark side since she got married. She married a lunatic rightwing asshole and if you look at what she’s saying, she has become a lunatic rightwing asshole herself. That she was talking shit about Hillary when she was decent to the whole family really speaks volumes about how bad of a turn the younger McCain has taken.

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:17:44am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:17:55am

re: #71 lawhawk

Bitch please.

The GOP is trying to whitewash the longest sustained stock market bull market by ignoring that 80+% of the increase was on Obama’s watch.

Trump inherited a strong economy and it suddenly is awesome. All while Obama was in the WH, Trump attacked it as weak and growth was awful (including when Obama saw 4% growth or better). Trump gets 4% in a single quarter and he and Fox are celebrating like this is the second coming.

Hell they had no problem with Trump saying e were in the worst economic conditions since the Depression. Two years later? Things are more or less the same and it’s all a sduden: TRUMP SHOULD BE PRAISED FOR HIS HANDLING OF THE ECONOMY. Uh no. Especially because Trump’s policies are actually hurting the economy and it’s eventually going to show big time.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:19:26am

re: #74 lawhawk

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Trump never would have gotten captured for the same reason why Trump never wore an uniform. Trump only cared and still only does care about himself. That wasn’t the case with McCain.

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:19:39am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

We actually would be doing better if the tax cuts weren’t in place and trade war wasn’t ongoing. The latter is having a depressive effect, and the tax cuts were done via redistributing wealth to millionaires while the burdens flow to everyone else in higher debt and service cuts (and the GOP demanding more cuts to “balance” the books).

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:20:08am

re: #71 lawhawk

Bitch please.

The GOP is trying to whitewash the longest sustained stock market bull market by ignoring that 80+% of the increase was on Obama’s watch.

Trump inherited a strong economy and it suddenly is awesome. All while Obama was in the WH, Trump attacked it as weak and growth was awful (including when Obama saw 4% growth or better). Trump gets 4% in a single quarter and he and Fox are celebrating like this is the second coming.

No prize for inheriting your predecessors economy or your dad’s estate

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:20:14am

re: #77 lawhawk

We actually would be doing better if the tax cuts weren’t in place and trade war wasn’t ongoing. The latter is having a depressive effect, and the tax cuts were done via redistributing wealth to millionaires while the burdens flow to everyone else in higher debt and service cuts (and the GOP demanding more cuts to “balance” the books).

Yep but don’t tell the GOP that. The tax cuts and trade war are good. //

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:24:52am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

Hell they had no problem with Trump saying e were in the worst economic conditions since the Depression. Two years later? Things are more or less the same and it’s all a sduden: TRUMP SHOULD BE PRAISED FOR HIS HANDLING OF THE ECONOMY. Uh no. Especially because Trump’s policies are actually hurting the economy and it’s eventually going to show big time.

They’ll blame that on the next guy
“I handed you a booming economy and look what you did”

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Lupin  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:24:54am

The disrespect shown by the US far right over John McCain is… unbelievable.

De Gaulle was as divisive a personality as could be, and the French far right never forgave him over what they saw as his “betrayal” of “French Algeria,” but when he passed, no one, but absolutely no one, let out a whisper of disrespect. Like McCain, his historical stature was just too great to express such opinions then.

Speaking of Algeria (or Indochina), my late dad served in both conflicts, although he was never really in great danger (French medical corps). While French troops behaved with great heroism, and we salute their service, with the passing of years and historical perspective, for the most part, we no longer glorify the cause they served then, i.e.: colonialism.

I thought the same judgment had been made over your side of the Viet-Nam war and I was a little surprised to see some of the hagiographic comments about McCain’s service there; I mean, bombing civilian populations (whether London or Dresden) doesn’t strike me as something one should flaunt.

This is in no way a reflection of McCain himself, whose public comments on the topic were (AFAIK) always wise and balanced, but some of the media’s hyperbole.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:25:37am

re: #80 dangerman

They’ll blame that on the next guy
“I handed you a booming economy and look what you did”

I’m honestly worried about that but we’ll have to cross that bridge when we come to it because Trump needs to go now.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:28:39am

re: #81 Lupin

Indeed. Been watching, taking names. Because when their day comes, memories will be freshened of their conduct at this time.

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:28:58am
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wheat-dogg  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:29:55am
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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:30:17am
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Belafon  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:35:00am
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Belafon  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:35:11am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:36:13am

re: #88 Belafon

Just darling, aren’t they?

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Dr. Matt  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:37:17am

re: #88 Belafon

Email this morning from a Trump supporter: “Where in the Constitution does it mention a person must be fit to serve as president?”

— Dana Milbank (@Milbank) August 26, 2018

The bar literally hit rock bottom.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:37:51am

re: #86 Sufficient unto the day…

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Guy’s a loon

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:38:42am

re: #84 lawhawk

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I’ve never been to Vietnam but I must say I really respect the people there. And yeah it says a lot that McCain’s former captor has been more respectful in his remembrance of McCain than Trump. I’ve said it early on about Trump but it’s who he decides to say nice things about and who he doesn’t that really tells us all about his lack of character. If Putin were to drop over dead right now, Trump would have an instant press release praising Putin.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:41:21am

re: #88 Belafon

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Email this morning from a Trump supporter: “Where in the Constitution does it mention a person must be fit to serve as president

To be elected….
It doesn’t
The founders didn’t think they needed to spell it out

They didn’t figure on a bunch of rubes like you actually voting for someone not fit to serve

Though there is that pesky 25th amendment….

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Belafon  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:41:32am

re: #58 Stanley Sea

He is so petty. Such an embarrassment.

I just ran outside and checked at my government contractor job. Yep, the flag is at full staff.

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:43:36am
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ObserverArt  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:43:51am

re: #60 HappyWarrior

He’s such a petty piece of shit.

He said he didn’t like people that become prisoners. Which was his passive-aggressive way of saying he didn’t like McCain.

He is just showing everyone how much he meant it.

This is why his base likes him. He is an asshole like they like being assholes.

I bet the White House is celebrating McCain being gone now so they can do what they want to do without his interference.

While America is all thoughts and prayers, Trump is all “fuck that guy!”

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sagehen  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:46:56am

There’s an interview with Kathleen Turner in the current issue of New York magazine; she says

Certainly in terms of film there is an intense pressure to repeat successful characters. I’ll give you an example, but you mustn’t use her name. [Very famous Hollywood actress] has played the same role for 20 years. She even looks pretty much the same. She’s probably one of the richest women out there, but I would shoot myself if I were like that, only giving people what they expect.

So who do we think she’s talking about? I’m going to guess Jennifer Anniston.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:47:08am

re: #90 Dr. Matt

The bar literally hit rock bottom.

Actually I think it’s about four feet below the surface at this point.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:47:18am

re: #93 dangerman

To be elected….
It doesn’t
The founders didn’t think they needed to spell it out

They didn’t figure on a bunch of rubes like you actually voting for someone not fit to serve

Though there is that pesky 25th amendment….

I remember when RWNJ quoted lofty words from the Founders about Virtue and such.

Now, it’s “Show me in the literal Constitution where it says that DJT can’t MAGA?”.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:47:40am

re: #98 Eclectic Cyborg

Actually I think it’s about four feet below the surface at this point.

And still digging

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:48:28am

re: #95 lawhawk

Watching Faux & Fiends again this morning, I see.

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William Lewis  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:48:48am

re: #86 Sufficient unto the day…

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My comments to the editor there:

That is quite possibly the most pitifully drunken and stupid bit of
Anti-Christian writing I have ever had the misfortune to read.

You want secular power? You’re willing to prop up a cowardly draft
dodging, treasonous, serial philanderer who makes Clinton look chaste
to get it? Fine. But be careful what you wish for and remember that
you received your reward here on earth when you spend eternity in
hell.

To support Trump is to oppose the word and work of the Lord Christ Jesus.

May God have mercy on your souls.

Won’t phase those morons but it felt good to hit send anyway.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:52:46am

INT: INDEPENDENCE HALL

Founding father 1: Hey guys, you think we should add more qualifications for a person to be President?

Founding father 2: Do you really think the people would ever elect a moron as President?

[Everyone laughs]

Founding father 2: Yeah, you’re right. The American People are better than that. Okay, moving on…

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dirkdigglerjr  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:53:12am

re: #41 wheat-dogg

Zhù nǐ hǎoyùn!

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:56:04am

re: #104 dirkdigglerjr

Zhù nǐ hǎoyùn!

Show off

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ObserverArt  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:56:13am

re: #98 Eclectic Cyborg

Actually I think it’s about four feet below the surface at this point.

The bar is gone. It fell into the swamp and is now buried in the muck at the bottom.

Trump did that. He has eliminated any measurement of how bad things are and can be.

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Belafon  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:56:37am

re: #80 dangerman

They’ll blame that on the next guy
“I handed you a booming economy and look what you did”

I fully expect Trump to keep going on about how he presided over the longest bull market in history even as unemployment his 20%.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:56:46am

This is the Stupidest Tweet You Will See All Minute:
(in hidden tags for those who want to avoid Stupids)

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Stanley Sea  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:57:36am

They are all complicit by staying there.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:59:30am

re: #108 The Vicious Babushka

This is the Stupidest Tweet You Will See All Minute:
(in hidden tags for those who want to avoid Stupids)

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Yeah I’m totally triggered by that idiocy. More so amused that this ass thinks this will trigger anyone.

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:59:42am

re: #108 The Vicious Babushka

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ObserverArt  Aug 27, 2018 • 6:59:52am

re: #108 The Vicious Babushka

This is the Stupidest Tweet You Will See All Minute:
(in hidden tags for those who want to avoid Stupids)

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Oh yeah, the wingnuts favorite task…trigger libs.

Such a high goal to strive for.

And they do it while they lose so much to Trump too, but damn, we triggered us some libs…hahahahaha.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:00:43am

re: #109 Stanley Sea

They are all complicit by staying there.

I wonder when they lowered to half staff—Saturday night?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:00:59am

re: #112 ObserverArt

Oh yeah, the wingnuts favorite task…trigger libs.

Such a high goal to strive for.

And they do it while they lose so much to Trump too, but damn, we triggered us some libs…hahahahaha.

I shot my dick off but I triggered the libs by using a gun! My God they’re obsessed with triggering us. Sad!

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Belafon  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:01:37am

re: #108 The Vicious Babushka

This is the Stupidest Tweet You Will See All Minute:
(in hidden tags for those who want to avoid Stupids)

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They should have reserved theredalgae2018.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:01:45am

I don’t even want to think what they’d do I’d say John Lewis were to pass away.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:03:03am

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m totally triggered by that idiocy. More so amused that this ass thinks this will trigger anyone.

I’m completely triggered. Don’t know what I’ll do with myself now.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:03:15am

re: #95 lawhawk

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Tiger Woods said that we should show respect for the office of the presidency, you should try it sometime.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:06:44am

re: #117 Sir John Barron

I’m completely triggered. Don’t know what I’ll do with myself now.

I think it’s pretty sad how obsessed they are by triggering us. I want good policy and discussion not because it pisses off morons like that but because I want good policy and discussion. Their obsession with triggering the libs is why men like Trump are more popular to their base than McCain.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:13:00am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

I don’t even want to think what they’d do I’d say John Lewis were to pass away.

Davey Duke will have an orgasm.

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:15:34am
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makeitstop  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:18:50am

I sincerely hope Milo is enjoying his new status as a total laughingstock.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:20:58am

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

Sarah Palin Says John McCain “Had Some Strange People Around Him” (Mother Jones)

Even John McCain’s running mate has to weigh in on all that conservative love for the late Senator.

(more)

Yeah. Like SARAH PALIN.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:25:40am

re: #122 makeitstop

I sincerely hope Milo is enjoying his new status as a total laughingstock.

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Weren’t you the guy who chose to out transgendered students? Oh it’s not fun when people treat you like you’ve treated them.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:29:25am

There’s a phrase for people like Milo and that’s that karma is a bitch. He chose the life he did. He chose to encourage harassment and threats. All for a buck and notoriety. Now the latter is gone and the former is running low and he can’t handle it. Maybe if he did some self reflection, he’d get why people give him and his husband shit.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:40:30am

re: #123 GlutenFreeJesus

Yeah. Like SARAH PALIN.

so many people posted exactly this
she is that tone deaf

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:40:35am
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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:44:14am

re: #127 lawhawk

Happy 100th Birthday to Ms. Katherine Johnson, NASA human computer who calculated trajectories for the Apollo space missions by hand!

an example of competence overcoming some levels of bigotry

her boss(es) understood what she and her team could do (and apparently others could not)

i know it was just a movie - near the end clearly the pilots/astronauts trusted and relied her work

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:48:22am

re: #122 makeitstop

I sincerely hope Milo is enjoying his new status as a total laughingstock.

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Milo— the ass that keeps on hole-ing!

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ObserverArt  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:48:38am

Arrrgh!

I hate how certain things get picked up and used by everyone. Take “fake news” as an example.

I am an auto racing fan. This morning I am reading some coverage of yesterday’s Begian Grand Prix at Spa.

World Champion British driver Lewis Hamilton, came second in yesterday’s race won by Sebastian Vettel in a Ferrari. Hamilton drives for Mercedes Benz.

Hamilton talking after the race said he thought Ferrari had some trick things going on in their cars.

British newspapers played it up and did headlines saying Hamilton said Ferrari used tricks (hinting illegal) to win the race.

Hamilton this morning is saying he never meant that. Tricks can mean legal parts or systems that are just advanced beyond what everyone was doing before. A new trick.

So what did he say? Hamilton is quoted as saying the headlines are “fake news.”

We are going to have to deal with Trumpisms for some time aren’t we? We have let the BS artist put his BS into the world’s language. Lasting damage.

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 7:51:02am

re: #121 lawhawk

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To be fair to Alan, he’s not wrong that the odds of the Mueller probe leading to a conviction are long. There are better odds that Donny’s about to lose his “empire” in federal court than there Senate Republicans will vote to convict him.

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:04:17am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:10:58am

re: #132 lawhawk

Draining the SWamp! Populism!

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Belafon  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:13:02am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:13:19am

re: #132 lawhawk

Only elites go to college should pay their own way no borrowing! Populism!

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:14:49am

re: #134 Belafon

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:17:01am

re: #134 Belafon

Yeah it’s still flying full staff from what I can see here in DC.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:17:58am

re: #132 lawhawk

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:18:32am

re: #132 lawhawk

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Coal miners don’t want to be protected from loans.//

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:18:38am

re: #136 lawhawk

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Like I’ve said before, for most of these fuckers, this is the end of the line for them. They know that quitting now pretty much means the end of their careers, the toxicity of being associated with this administration such that they’ll struggle to find new jobs. Seriously, who would want to write “White House staff, Trump Administration” on their resume now?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:18:40am

re: #137 Sir John Barron

Yeah it’s still flying full staff from what I can see here in DC.

Businesses near me have their flags at half mast today, showing more respect that this White House can manage.

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austin_blue  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:20:01am

re: #71 lawhawk

Bitch please.

The GOP is trying to whitewash the longest sustained stock market bull market by ignoring that 80+% of the increase was on Obama’s watch.

Trump inherited a strong economy and it suddenly is awesome. All while Obama was in the WH, Trump attacked it as weak and growth was awful (including when Obama saw 4% growth or better). Trump gets 4% in a single quarter and he and Fox are celebrating like this is the second coming.

Drumpfenscheiss got 4.1% growth because of an accounting trick- The Tax Cut for the Rich and Famous and Various Corporate Peoples. Middle class earnings were flat to slightly depressed. Wait till next quarter.

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:21:56am

re: #142 austin_blue

A bigger part of the economic growth for Q2 was the shifting of resources/purchases due to Trump’s trade wars.

If the war goes ahead, the growth slows.
If the war doesn’t, then those companies have excess inventory and will depress further purchases to avoid having excess inventory.

Either way, the growth will slow. It was goosed because of the trade war, and it will depress it going forward.

In other words, it was a one-shot boost due to avoiding taxes - the Trump trade war tariffs.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:22:53am

re: #141 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Businesses near me have their flags at half mast today, showing more respect that this White House can manage.

According to Dok Zoom over at Wonkette, the flag at the Washington Monument was still at half staff this morning, but by 9:15 it had been raised again. Had to be a direct order from the WH.

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:24:24am

re: #142 austin_blue

Drumpfenscheiss got 4.1% growth because of an accounting trick- The Tax Cut for the Rich and Famous and Various Corporate Peoples. Middle class earnings were flat to slightly depressed. Wait till next quarter.

Not to mention the mad dash to beat the Chinese tariffs on soy beans. But you watch, when the 3rd quarter comes back as being weaker, those same economists heralding that 4.1% as a harbinger of the glory of The Donald will be arguing that the 3rd quarter numbers are a “fluke” and the economy is really roaring to new heights.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:27:53am

re: #123 GlutenFreeJesus

Yeah. Like SARAH PALIN.

Lol!!! Exactly. She has zero self awareness.

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makeitstop  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:28:39am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:31:31am

re: #147 makeitstop

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“Here’s your cake, go ahead and compile it yourself.”

That’s perfect.

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:32:57am

Donny’s being this petty for a Senator who served as a thorn in his side and who wanted him nowhere near his funeral, imagine how he’s going to be if Carter or Bush Sr should die in the next 2 years? He might be the first president ever barred from attending the funeral of a former president.

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:34:03am

re: #149 Targetpractice

The League of Former Presidents is very selective at who they want in their club.

Traitors need not apply.

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garzooma  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:34:44am

re: #131 Targetpractice

To be fair to Alan, he’s not wrong that the odds of the Mueller probe leading to a conviction are long.

IANAL, so I may well be missing something, but it looks like the odds of a conviction on at least obstruction are pretty good.

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:35:55am

re: #151 garzooma

IANAL, so I may well be missing something, but it looks like the odds of a conviction on at least obstruction are pretty good.

That assumes the GOP were voting based upon the evidence, when we know it’s because even those who feel the man is guilty will not want to have their fingerprints on the vote to make a Republican the first president ever removed from office.

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:36:19am
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:36:27am

re: #121 lawhawk

Trump can’t do anything about any state AG. Dershowitz is an idiot.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:39:37am
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MsJ  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:42:34am

re: #136 lawhawk

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You have to admit that the people still working for trump have virtually no opportunities a standard white house employee would have. Those who have tied their careers to the trump thing are going to hurt for life. They better have fully formed resumes that will allow them to not put their trump experience on them because any resume that sniffs of trump is a career killer.

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Sea Mexican!  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:43:52am

re: #41 wheat-dogg

I promised an update on my job promotion. As of last week, I am the Director of Teaching Activities — effectively the head — of our unit at the university. I answer to the head of the organization, based in Beijing, and I will have a staff of two office workers and seven other teachers. I get more pay and fewer class hours, but way more administrative work. I’m also in charge of local personnel matters, which given our current line-up of teachers may be very interesting as the term progresses.

Wish me luck.

Congrats and good luck!!

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:44:26am

re: #155 Stanley Sea

Trump’s announcing partial credit on a preliminary entry level baseline evaluation and treating it like the final exam.

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gocart mozart  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:44:55am
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MsJ  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:44:59am
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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:45:14am

re: #130 ObserverArt


We are going to have to deal with Trumpisms for some time aren’t we? We have let the BS artist put his BS into the world’s language. Lasting damage.

for a while yes

i have faith that at some point in the future, when someone says “fake news” they are going to be mercilessly ridiculed

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:46:34am

re: #134 Belafon

When people in the WH leak to *me* about how bad the McCain statement/flag shitshow has become with President Man-Baby, you know it’s bad.#wouldntyouliketoknow

any of em, you know, doing anything about it?
going on record
or quitting
or?

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Stanley Sea  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:46:37am

He’s broadcasting the call to Mexico. Just sitting there.

THIS IS BIZARRE

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:46:59am

re: #136 lawhawk

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yeah… i should read ahead
i never learn

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Stanley Sea  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:47:14am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:47:55am

re: #163 Stanley Sea

He’s broadcasting the call to Mexico. Just sitting there.

THIS IS BIZARRE

Are they telling him they’re gonna pay for The Wall?

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:48:24am

This is some fucked up repugnant bullshit.

Trump is beyond all levels of fucked up in the head.

I can also imagine that Trump would veto Schumer’s bill to rename the Russell Office Building after McCain.

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sagehen  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:48:39am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:49:15am

re: #165 Stanley Sea

Hey Neeto? Is that your real name? Don’t you think I’m great? You’re gonna pay for that Wall, right?

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:49:21am

re: #140 Targetpractice

Like I’ve said before, for most of these fuckers, this is the end of the line for them. They know that quitting now pretty much means the end of their careers, the toxicity of being associated with this administration such that they’ll struggle to find new jobs. Seriously, who would want to write “White House staff, Trump Administration” on their resume now?

they keep telling us - if your situation is not working out, just up and move.
job dried up, change professions, learn a new skill, pack up and move
health care where you are not what you need? sell everything and move

screw your house, kids schools, community ties, family

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:51:02am

re: #167 lawhawk

This is some fucked up repugnant bullshit.

Trump is beyond all levels of fucked up in the head.

I can also imagine that Trump would veto Schumer’s bill to rename the Russell Office Building after McCain.

At least it’s Friday.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:51:11am

re: #142 austin_blue

Drumpfenscheiss got 4.1% growth because of an accounting trick- The Tax Cut for the Rich and Famous and Various Corporate Peoples. Middle class earnings were flat to slightly depressed. Wait till next quarter.

remember a few weeks ago when he suggested the sec should move to semi- or annual reporting?

if they did that with the economy this would be a non story

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A Mom Anon  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:52:00am

re: #9 TedStriker

They all do.

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Jay C  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:53:20am

re: #154 Patricia Kayden

Trump can’t do anything about any state AG. Dershowitz is an idiot.

Are we so sure about that? Trump can (at least I think so) take refuge behind the State/Federal “firewall” and basically ignore any State investigations as long as he’s President. I can imagine the WH response to, say, a subpoena from the NY AG - for either records or personal appearance - would be to first, dump it in the nearest bin, and secondly, say “see you in court”. And then, create (AFAICT) an entirely new legal/constitutional crisis over the relative “immunity” of a sitting President: one which might take months/years to resolve (if ever), and then, might not get as “favorable” a ruling from SCOTUS as we might like.

Unexplored territory, to be sure, but not unexpected when “we” elected a shady-verging-on-crooked businessman like Donald Trump to the Presidency.

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Belafon  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:55:49am

re: #174 Jay C

Are we so sure about that? Trump can (at least I think so) take refuge behind the State/Federal “firewall” and basically ignore any State investigations as long as he’s President. I can imagine the WH response to, say, a subpoena from the NY AG - for either records or personal appearance - would be to first, dump it in the nearest bin, and secondly, say “see you in court”. And then, create (AFAICT) an entirely new legal/constitutional crisis over the relative “immunity” of a sitting President: one which might take months/years to resolve (if ever), and then, might not get as “favorable” a ruling from SCOTUS as we might like.

Unexplored territory, to be sure, but not unexpected when “we” elected a shady-verging-on-crooked businessman like Donald Trump to the Presidency.

That might work had Trump followed the rules about divesting himself. But they can get to him through his companies.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:56:42am

re: #156 MsJ

You have to admit that the people still working for trump have virtually no opportunities a standard white house employee would have. Those who have tied their careers to the trump thing are going to hurt for life. They better have fully formed resumes that will allow them to not put their trump experience on them because any resume that sniffs of trump is a career killer.

they could learn to be coal miners

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:57:43am

re: #170 dangerman

they keep telling us - if your situation is not working out, just up and move.
job dried up, change professions, learn a new skill, pack up and move
health care where you are not what you need? sell everything and move

screw your house, kids schools, community ties, family

They want a nomadic populace that will never live anywhere long enough to bother registering to vote—or have the special paperwork each jurisdiction will require.

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sagehen  Aug 27, 2018 • 8:58:46am
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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:00:17am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:04:13am

re: #179 lawhawk

OK, Donny, whatever, you can go back to Twitter now or turn on Faux Noooze.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:05:15am

re: #153 lawhawk

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an “understanding”…according to the moron who understands nothing.

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:05:21am

Donny basically trying to revamp NAFTA as something to which he can put his name on, even if it is functionally identical to the very agreement he argues is such a “disaster” for America.

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:07:34am

re: #182 Targetpractice

It’s a branding thing.

He thinks anything that doesn’t have his name glued to the side sucks.
Doubly so if it’s got Obama (and now McCain) involved.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:08:34am

Heh.

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MsJ  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:09:48am

re: #182 Targetpractice

Donny basically trying to revamp NAFTA as something to which he can put his name on, even if it is functionally identical to the very agreement he argues is such a “disaster” for America.

This is precisely what they are doing.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:11:36am
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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:11:39am

re: #183 lawhawk

It’s a branding thing.

He thinks anything that doesn’t have his name glued to the side sucks.
Doubly so if it’s got Obama (and now McCain) involved.

Ayep. His entire obsession now is with being seen as more “successful” than the black man ever was. It’s all about image, because he’ll never be able to match on substance. A man who failed to sell substandard steaks and vodka to a country that loves red meat and alcohol shows that he’s nowhere near the salesman he thinks he is.

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Teukka  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:13:23am

Breaking story from Sweden:

A Swedish MP has had shots fired at the bus or van he was travelling in. Apparently, a car overtook the bus and shots were fired from it. Inside the car was a member of Parliament who apparently has a leading position and already was under the protection of the Swedish Security Service. The Swedish Security Service has taken over the investigation and so far, it is being investigated as a aggravated criminal threat.

Only Swedish links so far:

- aftonbladet.se
- sverigesradio.se
- expressen.se

XMXU+lYOCl6l+PdyU5+/K85qI1wyT9VC5dUJ6qmzhHe3B02iYzGgj9CeUVThtN3CBAYltsxV6NaZTp6hf9qQ7d/bJyX2SyASuwnvUg8obzDonVHyedTc1QEGS6tQlA0VrW4YFDaTCVweUvGUaA+zDQ==

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makeitstop  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:14:12am
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BeachDem  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:14:21am

re: #179 lawhawk

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And this kind of says it all

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:14:48am
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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:15:30am

re: #190 BeachDem

And this kind of says it all

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Well, if it were a deal, it would certainly be the largest he’s ever achieved. But it’s not, so it isn’t.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:15:32am
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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:17:48am

re: #191 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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And the people who gave Obama shit every time the White House did not immediately drop the flags to half-staff are oddly silent.

Curious, that…/////

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makeitstop  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:18:58am

This Kelli Ward person seems incapable of not saying exactly the wrong thing. Kind of a double negative there…

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BeachDem  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:19:17am

Shade—Canadian style.

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:20:40am

re: #196 BeachDem

Shade—Canadian style.

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wrenchwench  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:20:58am

re: #130 ObserverArt

Arrrgh!

I hate how certain things get picked up and used by everyone. Take “fake news” as an example.

I am an auto racing fan. This morning I am reading some coverage of yesterday’s Begian Grand Prix at Spa.

World Champion British driver Lewis Hamilton, came second in yesterday’s race won by Sebastian Vettel in a Ferrari. Hamilton drives for Mercedes Benz.

Hamilton talking after the race said he thought Ferrari had some trick things going on in their cars.

British newspapers played it up and did headlines saying Hamilton said Ferrari used tricks (hinting illegal) to win the race.

Hamilton this morning is saying he never meant that. Tricks can mean legal parts or systems that are just advanced beyond what everyone was doing before. A new trick.

So what did he say? Hamilton is quoted as saying the headlines are “fake news.”

We are going to have to deal with Trumpisms for some time aren’t we? We have let the BS artist put his BS into the world’s language. Lasting damage.

All scandals end with ‘gate’, thanks to Nixon. Still.

It did not diminish the gloriousness of the day he resigned. Still.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:21:21am

re: #196 BeachDem

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:23:08am
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:24:35am

re: #194 Targetpractice

And the people who gave Obama shit every time the White House did not immediately drop the flags to half-staff are oddly silent.

Curious, that…/////

And they made shit up, like Obama dropped the flags to honor some celebrity who took an overdose.

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Skip Intro  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:25:48am

re: #137 Sir John Barron

Yeah it’s still flying full staff from what I can see here in DC.

How many Republicans will say something about this? ZERO!

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makeitstop  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:25:58am

I can’t begin to express how badly I want another indictment to drop today, just to fuck with this asshole even more.

I’d even take another high-level Trump employee flipping. As long as it makes that son of a bitch miserable, I’m here for it.

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:26:20am

re: #200 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Donny not having a fucking clue what he’s saying is generally a safe bet. Trudeau and EPN both expect this breakthrough to lead to either a new trilateral agreement or a revision of NAFTA, while Trump thinks he’s got Mexico in his pocket and can use it to bring Canada to their knees.

In other words, he’s wasting our time…again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:26:53am

Narrator Voice: “Facts are irrelevant”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:27:25am

re: #191 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

FLAG WARS courtesy of Donald Trump.

Need Anymouse to weigh in on this debate.

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Skip Intro  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:27:26am

re: #149 Targetpractice

Donny’s being this petty for a Senator who served as a thorn in his side and who wanted him nowhere near his funeral, imagine how he’s going to be if Carter or Bush Sr should die in the next 2 years? He might be the first president ever barred from attending the funeral of a former president.

I’m sure he will be. His presence would be a desecration.

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:27:33am

re: #201 The Vicious Babushka

And they made shit up, like Obama dropped the flags to honor some celebrity who took an overdose.

Ayep, they accused him of lowering the flags for Whitney Houston, but not for Nancy Reagan.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:28:07am

re: #196 BeachDem

Shade—Canadian style.

Timely statement from the Prime Minister’s Office. Trudeau and EPN talked yesterday, reaffirmed commitment to a three-way deal.

called the North American Free Trade Agreement

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Skip Intro  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:28:39am

re: #208 Targetpractice

Can we not go down this rabbit hole? It’s what the Trumperoids want.

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wrenchwench  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:30:15am

re: #204 Targetpractice

Donny not having a fucking clue what he’s saying is generally a safe bet. Trudeau and EPN both expect this breakthrough to lead to either a new trilateral agreement or a revision of NAFTA, while Trump thinks he’s got Mexico in his pocket and can use it to bring Canada to their knees.

In other words, he’s wasting our time…again.

Trump’s boss (Vlad) would like almost nothing better than to bust up NAFTA. What he would like better is to bust up the EU. Ever since the USSR bust up, Putin wants to see everybody else busted up.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:31:19am

maybe you wanna refresh #209
damn fat fingers

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gocart mozart  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:32:11am
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ObserverArt  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:32:48am

re: #178 sagehen

Ryan Lizza ✔
@RyanLizza
Just when you think he couldn’t sink lower

8:09 AM - Aug 27, 2018

Who Ryan?

Who didn’t think he could sink lower?

Not me. Not a lot of people here at LGF.

Stop it with the benefit of a doubt bullshit. Trump doesn’t deserve it. Expect him to be an asshole. Expect him to sink lower and then deal with the reality of that and take it from there.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:35:03am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:35:55am

re: #208 Targetpractice

Ayep, they accused him of lowering the flags for Whitney Houston, but not for Nancy Reagan.

To be fair, if I were President, that’s what I would have done….

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:37:13am

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:38:59am

re: #183 lawhawk

It’s a branding thing.

He thinks anything that doesn’t have his name glued to the side sucks.
Doubly so if it’s got Obama (and now McCain) involved.

And yet, anything that does have TRUMP plastered on it sucks.

Dude has a blind spot to his name now. Hint to big Donny: your name is now toxic and a laughing stock. Or, worse.

Reality is going to be so hard for him to accept.

I hope he lives long enough to get a feel for how much he will be trashed once he is out office.

It might be so bad, his family will want to change their names to get away from anything Trump and anything to do with the Trump presidency.

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wrenchwench  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:42:30am

Having no fucks left to give can make sales phone calls (receiving end) actually pleasant. When I make it unmistakably clear that I will not be their customer, I become a human being, then they do, then we can have a nice chat about something unrelated. It can turn out to be the highlight of the morning.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:43:55am

re: #215 Stanley Sea

the first q to Sarah Huckabee Sanders should be why she didn’t quit when Trump refused to put out a statement honoring McCain.

she’ll prob say something like, i made a recommendation. he’s the boss. he decided….

either that or she’ll say “that’s a question for his lawyers”

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:44:31am

re: #210 Skip Intro

Can we not go down this rabbit hole? It’s what the Trumperoids want.

I’m not arguing the rightness or wrongness of Obama’s actions, only listing the accusations made. Accusations which, I should note, came from a chorus of voices of which Donald Trump was one.

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ObserverArt  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:46:43am

re: #203 makeitstop

I can’t begin to express how badly I want another indictment to drop today, just to fuck with this asshole even more.

I’d even take another high-level Trump employee flipping. As long as it makes that son of a bitch miserable, I’m here for it.

I think you can be assured he is miserable.

He isn’t getting the glory he thinks he deserves. He has prosecutors from all over chewing on his ankles. He is trashed in the media all the time, and even calling it fake news is not enough to cover the butthurt.

But I agree…more is needed to drive him insane and force his resignation.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:51:49am
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plansbandc  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:55:58am

In the news in 1912…

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:56:24am

re: #222 ObserverArt

I think you can be assured he is miserable.

He isn’t getting the glory he thinks he deserves. He has prosecutors from all over chewing on his ankles. He is trashed in the media all the time, and even calling it fake news is not enough to cover the butthurt.

But I agree…more is needed to drive him insane and force his resignation.

Donny wishes he was the president of a banana republic, waltzing around daily in a military uniform covered in faux ribbons and medals as he makes grand declarations to the peasants about how he’s going to create the greatest country ever, thinking the cheers from below genuine rather than forced at gunpoint. He has no real interest in the job, he just wants the glory he thought would come with it.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:56:35am

Just as my kids are about to go to college (or maybe not):

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electrotek  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:57:36am

Who would you say was worse to McCain: Rove in 2000 or Trump in 2015?

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mmmirele  Aug 27, 2018 • 9:59:57am

I just called the White House and the line is busy. Keep calling, that petty orange creep has to be forced to cave.

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Interesting Times  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:00:43am

re: #227 electrotek

Who would you say was worse to McCain: Rove in 2000 or Trump in 2015?

Rove, because he leveled a filthy and disingenuous racist attack against McCain’s family. (i.e. implying McCain’s adopted South Asian daughter was actually his illegitimate mixed-race child).

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:00:43am

I’m seeing a bunch of Trumporrhoids on Twitter claiming that the Jax shooter was A LIBTARD IN #THERESISTANCE!!!11!! HE CALLED TRUMP SUPPORTERS MEAN NAMES!!!1!!! but there is no evidence of this outside Twitter.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:01:30am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

I’m seeing a bunch of Trumporrhoids on Twitter claiming that the Jax shooter was A LIBTARD IN #THERESISTANCE!!!11!! HE CALLED TRUMP SUPPORTERS MEAN NAMES!!!1!!! but there is no evidence of this outside Twitter.

If it’s on Twitter that means it’s real Proof FACT.

////

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:02:35am

re: #224 plansbandc

In the news in 1912…

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This is “secret science”, very bad. Fake news.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:03:56am

re: #231 Sir John Barron

If it’s on Twitter that means it’s real Proof FACT.

////

Oh, it’s from the SMOTI

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:04:23am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:05:21am

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

Narrator Voice: “Facts are irrelevant”

Wait, are we starting to like Mexico again? I thought Drump hated Mexico. Or have we always still been at war with Mexico?

/

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makeitstop  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:05:57am

re: #227 electrotek

Who would you say was worse to McCain: Rove in 2000 or Trump in 2015?

Trump, by a mile. McCain could have responded to Rove. Trump’s punching someone who cannot punch back, the coward.

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gocart mozart  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:06:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:07:49am

uhhhh…

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:07:50am

re: #200 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Mexico pay for build Wall must be part of any Agreement!

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:07:54am

re: #206 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Need Anymouse to weigh in on this debate.

I’ll jump in and right back out to weigh in.

According to the US Flag Code, the flag is to be placed at half-mast on the day of death and the day after on the death of a sitting senator or representative, and that person’s desk in the House or Senate is to be draped in black.

The relevant branch of government (in this case the Senate) can order a longer period (that was done with the Supreme Court when Associate Justice Antonin Scalia died), hence the flag is at half-mast at the Capitol.

The Department of Defense has no authority to order flags on Federal buildings around DC to be lowered, though they can weigh in with an opinion to the President if asked.

At the White House, where the flag is at full mast now, Trump has chosen not to lower the flag for the customary period (until McCain’s interment).

An example of that is Sen. John Glenn’s death. President Obama issued a proclamation for the flag to remain at half-mast until his interment. As he laid in state first in Ohio, then in the Capitol Rotunda, the flag was at half-mast for a long time.

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov (Proclamation of Sen. Glenn’s Death)

Trump has already made his decision - no proclamation. Trump doesn’t admit he is wrong, so if every government official in DC howls about this, he will not reverse his decision.

On the issue of what day the flag goes back up based on the Flag Code, his death was very close to sunset. As such, I made an executive decision in my town that it was after dark when he died (our time) and decided the flags would go back up to full-mast tonight.

Any state governor can also order a longer period for his or her state, and Federal properties within that state are required to reply. It is a bit difficult for me to check every state, but I know neither Arizona nor Nebraska have issued such a proclamation. (Arizona’s governor’s office has a proclamation up about John McCain, but no half-mast proclamation.)

azgovernor.gov

No Republican governor is going to cross Trump. It would be nice if Democratic governors did; you can call your governor’s office to find out if they will release a proclamation to lower the flag to half-mast (even if only for the day of interment).

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:08:07am

re: #224 plansbandc

In the news in 1912…

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more than 100 years later and we’re still here
that warning was way too alarmist
besides there’s nothing we can do

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ObserverArt  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:08:55am

re: #227 electrotek

Who would you say was worse to McCain: Rove in 2000 or Trump in 2015?

I’m a bad judge of assholes. They are just assholes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:10:38am
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Teukka  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:10:46am

re: #223 The Vicious Babushka

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Oof. That’s gonna leave a mark…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:11:51am
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wrenchwench  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:12:11am

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹

I’ll jump in and right back out to weigh in.

According to the US Flag Code, the flag is to be placed at half-mast on the day of death and the day after on the death of a sitting senator or representative, and that person’s desk in the House or Senate is to be draped in black.

The relevant branch of government (in this case the Senate) can order a longer period (that was done with the Supreme Court when Associate Justice Antonin Scalia died), hence the flag is at half-mast at the Capitol.

The Department of Defense has no authority to order flags on Federal buildings around DC to be lowered, though they can weigh in with an opinion to the President if asked.

At the White House, where the flag is at full mast now, Trump has chosen not to lower the flag for the customary period (until McCain’s interment).

An example of that is Sen. John Glenn’s death. President Obama issued a proclamation for the flag to remain at half-mast until his interment. As he laid in state first in Ohio, then in the Capitol Rotunda, the flag was at half-mast for a long time.

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov (Proclamation of Sen. Glenn’s Death)

Trump has already made his decision - no proclamation. Trump doesn’t admit he is wrong, so if every government official in DC howls about this, he will not reverse his decision.

On the issue of what day the flag goes back up based on the Flag Code, his death was very close to sunset. As such, I made an executive decision in my town that it was after dark when he died (our time) and decided the flags would go back up to full-mast tonight.

Any state governor can also order a longer period for his or her state, and Federal properties within that state are required to reply. It is a bit difficult for me to check every state, but I know neither Arizona nor Nebraska have issued such a proclamation. (Arizona’s governor’s office has a proclamation up about John McCain, but no half-mast proclamation.)

azgovernor.gov

No Republican governor is going to cross Trump. It would be nice if Democratic governors did; you can call your governor’s office to find out if they will release a proclamation to lower the flag to half-mast (even if only for the day of interment).

Pageworthy topic if you have time to jump back in.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:12:27am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

uhhhh…

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NRA TV really needs to lose their license like now.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:13:27am

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

Oh, it’s from the SMOTI

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I’ll level even if true, so? He didn’t target Trump supporters. But leave it to SMOTI to be SMOTI.

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Skip Intro  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:14:26am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

They don’t have a license. They need to lose their platform on Apple, Roku, and Amazon.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:14:51am

re: #248 HappyWarrior

I’ll level even if true, so? He didn’t target Trump supporters. But leave it to SMOTI to be SMOTI.

I’m glad SMOTI is waiting until all the facts are in and until at least 24 hrs afterward to start politicizing the shooting.

///

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makeitstop  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:15:12am

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹

I’ll jump in and right back out to weigh in.

According to the US Flag Code, the flag is to be placed at half-mast on the day of death and the day after on the death of a sitting senator or representative, and that person’s desk in the House or Senate is to be draped in black.

The relevant branch of government (in this case the Senate) can order a longer period (that was done with the Supreme Court when Associate Justice Antonin Scalia died), hence the flag is at half-mast at the Capitol.

The Department of Defense has no authority to order flags on Federal buildings around DC to be lowered, though they can weigh in with an opinion to the President if asked.

At the White House, where the flag is at full mast now, Trump has chosen not to lower the flag for the customary period (until McCain’s interment).

An example of that is Sen. John Glenn’s death. President Obama issued a proclamation for the flag to remain at half-mast until his interment. As he laid in state first in Ohio, then in the Capitol Rotunda, the flag was at half-mast for a long time.

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov (Proclamation of Sen. Glenn’s Death)

Trump has already made his decision - no proclamation. Trump doesn’t admit he is wrong, so if every government official in DC howls about this, he will not reverse his decision.

On the issue of what day the flag goes back up based on the Flag Code, his death was very close to sunset. As such, I made an executive decision in my town that it was after dark when he died (our time) and decided the flags would go back up to full-mast tonight.

Any state governor can also order a longer period for his or her state, and Federal properties within that state are required to reply. It is a bit difficult for me to check every state, but I know neither Arizona nor Nebraska have issued such a proclamation. (Arizona’s governor’s office has a proclamation up about John McCain, but no half-mast proclamation.)

azgovernor.gov

No Republican governor is going to cross Trump. It would be nice if Democratic governors did; you can call your governor’s office to find out if they will release a proclamation to lower the flag to half-mast (even if only for the day of interment).

Trump ordered flags flown at half staff for five days in Barbara Bush’s honor.

His need to be an absolute dick overrules any attempt at consistency.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:15:40am

re: #249 Skip Intro

They don’t have a license. They need to lose their platform on Apple, Roku, and Amazon.

Ah very well then. Agreed.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:16:16am

re: #250 Sir John Barron

I’m glad SMOTI is waiting until all the facts are in and until at least 24 hrs afterward to start politicizing the shooting.

///

Haha yep.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:17:02am

what a clusterfuck

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:18:26am
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:18:32am

re: #231 Sir John Barron

If it’s on Twitter that means it’s real Proof FACT.

////

That came from SMOTI’s Website … he has that as a headline article.

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Jay C  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:20:15am

re: #256 Anymouse 🌹

That came from SMOTI’s Website … he has that as a headline article.

Oh, so it’s completely, entirely and absolutely 100% credible, then. OK…..

//

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:20:16am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Of course. That’s why I laugh at the idiots who he’s a tough guy. He’s a pampered brat too afraid to face anyone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:20:30am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:21:17am
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wrenchwench  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:21:45am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Sat silent and cross-armed…]

He’s going to get elbow bone spurs if he keeps that up.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:22:15am

re: #225 Targetpractice

Donny wishes he was the president of a banana republic, waltzing around daily in a military uniform covered in faux ribbons and medals as he makes grand declarations to the peasants about how he’s going to create the greatest country ever, thinking the cheers from below genuine rather than forced at gunpoint. He has no real interest in the job, he just wants the glory he thought would come with it.

he made it into the club
he’s gonna get a portrait
and it’s likely gonna have an asterisk where the name would go

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:22:58am

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹

No Republican governor is going to cross Trump. It would be nice if Democratic governors did; you can call your governor’s office to find out if they will release a proclamation to lower the flag to half-mast (even if only for the day of interment).

Kasich has no fucks to give:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:24:20am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kasich has no fucks to give:

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Dave In Austin  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:24:31am

It’s on at the Big Tree after school!!

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Skip Intro  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:25:35am

re: #252 HappyWarrior

The thing is a simple business decision is all it would take to get rid of NRATV, yet the companies giving them an outlet won’t make it. It’s not as though two of the richest companies in the world, Apple and Amazon, would notice the revenue loss.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:26:00am

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹

you da (flag) man

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Skip Intro  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:26:07am

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

A Republican! It’s a MIRACLE!

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:26:30am

Wow, my governor’s office has a fantastic statement about John McCain (a press release, Pete Ricketts didn’t even want to be bothered with a proclamation):

governor.nebraska.gov

LINCOLN - Today, Governor Pete Ricketts issued a statement following news that U.S. Senator John McCain passed away at the age of 81.

“Our country has lost a great patriot who dedicated his life to serving our country in our military and then in the U.S. Senate. Our prayers and condolences are with the McCain family.”

Wow. Two whole sentences. Betcha it took his press person all of thirty seconds to write that. No proclamation, no half-mast notice.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:26:31am

re: #227 electrotek

Who would you say was worse to McCain: Rove in 2000 or Trump in 2015?

all of them, katie

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:26:35am

re: #266 Skip Intro

The thing is a simple business decision is all it would take to get rid on NRATV, yet the companies giving them an outlet won’t make it. It’s not as though two of the richest companies in the world, Apple and Amazon, would notice the revenue loss.

Right. Be but a hiccup for Amazon and Apple’s revenues.

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wrenchwench  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:26:49am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:27:12am

re: #266 Skip Intro

The thing is a simple business decision is all it would take to get rid on NRATV, yet the companies giving them an outlet won’t make it. It’s not as though two of the richest companies in the world, Apple and Amazon, would notice the revenue loss.

Censorship First Amendment violate our freedom give us platform or we boycott!

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Skip Intro  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:27:18am

re: #250 Sir John Barron

Still got it wrong though.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:27:38am

re: #270 dangerman

all of them, katie

Yep. There’s still a special place for Rove given his role in his Atwater tactics.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:28:27am

re: #272 wrenchwench

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Ted Cruz, (R) Trump’s ass will defend what Trump does.

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Skip Intro  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:28:40am

re: #272 wrenchwench

So we did elect a dictator who can just do whatever he wants with no Congressional intervention. Good to know.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:29:23am

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹

Wow, my governor’s office has a fantastic statement about John McCain (a press release, Pete Ricketts didn’t even want to be bothered with a proclamation):

governor.nebraska.gov

Wow. Two whole sentences. Betcha it took his press person all of thirty seconds to write that. No proclamation, no half-mast notice.

Now he better hope that even that lame statement doesn’t make the dotard mad.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:30:08am
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:31:45am

And a dipshit weighs in on John Kasich’s action:

Yes it is in the Flag Code. A state governor may order the flag to half-mast for any person.

For as much as conservatives claim to love the US Flag, they ought to read the Flag Code at least once. It’s a lot shorter than the Bible they don’t read… .

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:32:46am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:33:50am

re: #280 Anymouse 🌹

And a dipshit weighs in on John Kasich’s action:

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Yes it is in the Flag Code. A state governor may order the flag to half-mast for any person.

For as much as conservatives claim to love the US Flag, they ought to read the Flag Code at least once. It’s a lot shorter than the Bible they don’t read… .

You could apply that same rule to anything with the cons.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:33:51am

re: #270 dangerman

all of them, katie

see?
even though we know from whose mouth (or legacy) they sprung,

w/r/t ‘fake news’ and ‘—gate’ we’re not gonna lose “all of them, katie” either

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Mike Lamb  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:34:13am

re: #279 Stanley Sea

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So that’s freaking cool.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:34:49am
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Teukka  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:35:13am

re: #280 Anymouse 🌹

And a dipshit weighs in on John Kasich’s action:

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Yes it is in the Flag Code. A state governor may order the flag to half-mast for any person.

For as much as conservatives claim to love the US Flag, they ought to read the Flag Code at least once. It’s a lot shorter than the Bible they don’t read… .

Who doesn’t know the flag code where the live and are from?
In my place of origin, it’s up at sunrise, down at sunset, treat the flag (regardless of nation) with respect, proper procedure for raising half mast is up full mast, then lower to half or at least one flag height from top, proper procedure for lowering is up to full mast, then fully lower.
For fixed flags, the procedure to mark mourning is black sorrow band on top.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:35:22am

re: #277 Skip Intro

So we did elect a dictator who can just do whatever he wants with no Congressional intervention. Good to know.

they’re letting him

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Stanley Sea  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:36:05am

Rick Davis is talking about the services etc. for John McCain.

He just said that McCain wanted an Hispanic woman to succeed him.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:36:16am

4+ minutes

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:38:13am

Plenty more of the walking brain dead on that Kasich thread posting the single line from the US Flag Code “on the day of death and the day after” and completely ignoring the part where a governor may order the flag to half-mast for any person (and for any length of time).

I don’t know if it’s a lot of bot/spam traffic, or just Biblical legalists using their legalism to parse the US Flag Code.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:40:03am

re: #290 Anymouse 🌹

Upding for “walking brain dead”.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:41:01am

re: #279 Stanley Sea

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i was looking for a B.C. comic that i couldnt find
i saw this instead. i was amused

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:42:26am
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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:42:45am

re: #281 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This is obviously an entrepreneurial opportunity
Time to market “4th Amendment bag liners”
Preferably made recycled material, or hemp

repurposed steel plates

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:44:00am

re: #289 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

4+ minutes

@NBCNightlyNews
BREAKING: A “final message” from the late John McCain is read by an aide.

I particularly liked his veiled dig at the current administration

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Teukka  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:44:43am
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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:45:06am

re: #290 Anymouse 🌹

Plenty more of the walking brain dead on that Kasich thread posting the single line from the US Flag Code “on the day of death and the day after” and completely ignoring the part where a governor may order the flag to half-mast for any person (and for any length of time).

I don’t know if it’s a lot of bot/spam traffic, or just Biblical legalists using their legalism to parse the US Flag Code.

cf: “a well regulated militia”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:46:41am
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:46:54am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:48:19am

I checked Governor Inslee’s office—flag status is still “full staff.” I emailed the guy in charge, Schuyler Hoss (Just because I’ve always wanted to email someone named “Schuyler Hoss”) that they should lower the flag just to annoy the Tangerine Wankmaggot. We’ll see—I’ve got an email notification set up.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:49:11am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fake polls can’t fool him!

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:50:44am

Given their track record to date, I expect before the late-Senator’s body is finally laid to rest, the White House will be trying to paint Donny as the “victim.” That his petty acts of passive-aggressiveness are a “response” to some “wrong” that was visited upon him by the deceased or his family.

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jaunte  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:51:08am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump always has to add 7 million, 8 million, 9 million, or 12 million gallons to his leaky self-esteem tank.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:51:38am
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jaunte  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:51:46am

And he remains an empty loser.

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:52:36am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It sounds like shit his staff started telling him when his poll numbers didn’t get that “honeymoon period” rise: “Well boss, you can’t take those numbers at face value, you gotta add a few points. The media’s never gonna publish the real numbers, so you gotta add a few points that they shave off.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:54:37am

it’s endorsement time!

wonder if he’ll still like Ducey if Cindy gets the appointment for filling John’s seat.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:55:31am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I used to have a similar system leading up to Presidential elections—I’d keep a running mental average of all the polls I saw and assume that that was two points pessimistic for the Democrat. It was always dead on—until 2004. The fix has been in ever since.

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:56:24am

Honestly, I expect to be told before Sunday that the reason Donny is being such a prick about all this is because the McCains barred him while inviting Obama and Dubya, the two men who Comrade Combover views himself as being “better” than.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:56:31am
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jaunte  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:57:03am
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:57:06am

Federal Protective Service has put in a flag lowering request to the President.

flagnotify.com

The following states now have gubernatorial orders in to lower the flag to half-mast for John McCain:

DE, MA, AR, RI, NC, SC, KS, MD, AZ, WI, VA, OH

(Other states are at half-mast for other people)

flagnotify.com

Click on the specific state to see the order and length of time.

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wrenchwench  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:58:14am
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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:59:21am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

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so he didnt misquote or ‘confuse’ the poll by using the disapproval number of 52%

he just put his finger on the scale, added 8 points to the 44% approvaland didnt tell anybody he was doing it

it’s still a lie.
he lied

just a different lie than we (i) thought yesterday

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 10:59:51am

re: #312 Anymouse 🌹

Federal Protective Service has put in a flag lowering request to the President.

flagnotify.com

The following states now have gubernatorial orders in to lower the flag to half-mast for John McCain:

DE, MA, AR, RI, NC, SC, KS, MD, AZ, WI, VA, OH

(Other states are at half-mast for other people)

flagnotify.com

Click on the specific state to see the order and length of time.

Last November is the gift that keeps on giving.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:01:21am
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:02:12am

re: #300 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I checked Governor Inslee’s office—flag status is still “full staff.” I emailed the guy in charge, Schuyler Hoss (Just because I’ve always wanted to email someone named “Schuyler Hoss”) that they should lower the flag just to annoy the Tangerine Wankmaggot. We’ll see—I’ve got an email notification set up.

I just called the Nebraska governor’s office and left a request with his aide that Gov. Ricketts issue a proclamation to lower the flag to half-mast until the day of interment for Senator McCain, as is customary for a sitting senator. I noted who I was (my name, village trustee, village flag committee chair).

She took my telephone number and said her office would get back with me.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:03:20am

re: #224 plansbandc

many many many thanks for “make trump tweets eight again”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:04:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:04:18am
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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:04:43am

Donny spends more time screaming out his wild-eyed proclamations of “innocence” as he drops a deuce in the morning than he spent recognizing the life and times of a man whose legacy he will never be able to match.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:04:49am

re: #319 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:05:20am
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:06:09am
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ObserverArt  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:07:17am

Well, well, well…isn’t Trump more or less holding his own flag protest and dishonoring the men and women that fight for that flag by not flying the flag at half-staff in honor of McCain?

Where are all the cries from wingnuts?

Where are the statements from some of the NFL owners?

Where are the Republican politicians that were disgusted by the players taking a knee.

Where is Mike Pence…is he going to go to the White House and check if Donny is doing the honorable thing?

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:08:39am

re: #325 ObserverArt

Well, well, well…isn’t Trump more or less holding his own flag protest and dishonoring the men and women that fight for that flag by not flying the flag at half-staff in honor of McCain?

Where are all the cries from wingnuts?

Where are the statements from some of the NFL owners?

Where are the Republican politicians that were disgusted by the players taking a knee.

Where is Mike Pence…is he going to go to the White House and check if Donny is doing the honorable thing?

In the Federal government, hypocrites all of them.

Some Republican state governors (as I noted above) have now ordered the flag to half mast.

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Kragar  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:09:10am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:09:35am
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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:10:17am

re: #327 Kragar

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Like that will stop him. Or give his supporters even a second of pause before they scream about those “thugs” are being so disrespectful to players by refusing to stand during the National Anthem.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:10:23am
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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:11:02am

re: #324 The Vicious Babushka

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And the press will treat this as a story…for an afternoon. Before finding some “Both Sides” moment to provide false balance.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:11:32am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:12:45am
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:12:51am

Under the flag code, I don’t have the authority to go beyond it (that requires the governor or his permission - for example, I obtained permission on the death of our village clerk a couple years ago). I do have it at half-mast today at my house (along with my Gold Star Family flag, as today would have been my father’s birthday).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:13:25am

hey, Art!

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gocart mozart  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:14:14am
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BeachDem  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:14:14am

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s endorsement time!

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wonder if he’ll still like Ducey if Cindy gets the appointment for filling John’s seat.

Wait—Skeletor didn’t get his “full and total/complete Endorsement!”

What’s up with that?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:15:45am
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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:16:39am

re: #336 gocart mozart

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Kelli must feel rather conflicted right now, between the wingnut impulses to screech about how evil and rotten McCain was, and her desire to win a seat held by a man who is receiving praise from even some of his worst “enemies.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:16:50am

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹

No Republican governor is going to cross Trump.

Yup. Though Hogan is keeping the state flag at half-mast until internment.

Gov. Larry Hogan orders Maryland flag at half-staff for Sen. John McCain

According to the Secretary of State’s website, the Maryland State Flag will return to full-staff at sunset on the interment date, which has not yet been announced. The U.S. flag will return to full-staff at sunset Sunday.

I hope we can get rid of Hogan next election.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:17:10am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:18:47am
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:19:38am

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

And plenty of dingbats weighing in on that thread with “day of and day after” in the Flag Code, without reading the relevant part of the law noting the Flag Code applies to government entities, not citizens or private entities.

I really despise conservative faux patriotism.

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BeachDem  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:20:29am

re: #312 Anymouse 🌹

Federal Protective Service has put in a flag lowering request to the President.

flagnotify.com

The following states now have gubernatorial orders in to lower the flag to half-mast for John McCain:

DE, MA, AR, RI, NC, SC, KS, MD, AZ, WI, VA, OH

(Other states are at half-mast for other people)

flagnotify.com

Click on the specific state to see the order and length of time.

So is Henry confused or am I? Where is this proclamation from the yam?

South Carolina observing Half Staff
Sunday, August 26, 2018

As a mark of respect for the memory of Senator
John McCain, the President has issued a
proclamation ordering that the flag of the United
States be flown at half-staff until sunset, on
the day of interment.
Accordingly, the Governor
directs that flags atop the State
Capitol Building be flown at half-staff
immediately and until sunset on the day of
interment.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:20:45am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wait, wait, are you saying that Crazy Eyes Bachmann, Gohmert! and Trent Franks were full of cockadoodoo?

Who else can we trust?

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:21:07am

re: #324 The Vicious Babushka

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Just now in the Oval: Trump just ignored multiple Qs about McCain, including four from @jonkarl who stood about 6 feet away from the president and asked if he had anything to say about the late senator and whether he believed McCain was a hero. The president stared straight ahead

He’s such a baby

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:23:56am

re: #328 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Trump’s trash, but he’s also a coward, so the zombie stare is all you get.

This close to holding his breath

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Kragar  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:24:35am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:25:13am

re: #347 dangerman

Trump’s trash, but he’s also a coward, so the zombie stare is all you get.

This close to holding his breath

If you turn purple when you’re already orange…where does that end up?

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:25:49am

re: #344 BeachDem

So is Henry confused or am I? Where is this proclamation from the yam?

South Carolina observing Half Staff
Sunday, August 26, 2018

As a mark of respect for the memory of Senator
John McCain, the President has issued a
proclamation ordering that the flag of the United
States be flown at half-staff until sunset, on
the day of interment.
Accordingly, the Governor
directs that flags atop the State
Capitol Building be flown at half-staff
immediately and until sunset on the day of
interment.

I bet I can guess what happened.

My own state governor usually issues proclamations that say “the President has ordered the flag to half-staff” and releases them.

I’m guessing the So. Car. governor’s office prepared such a statement in advance, and simply released it with the assumption the President would release such a proclamation; or they used a boilerplate proclamation and just inserted the relevant information.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:27:39am

re: #349 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If you turn purple when you’re already orange…where does that end up?

Maybe red. It might make him look more human.

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:27:44am

re: #272 wrenchwench

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:28:03am

re: #348 Kragar

Hey, VFW, I’m a member, and so was John McCain. I just went to the Website where you have a long flowery statement about the senator; where is your request for lowering the flag?

vfw.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:28:18am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:29:58am

re: #348 Kragar

Maybe the AL (among others) is finding out who they cheered and helped elect.

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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:30:01am

re: #348 Kragar

And if he tries to blame it on his staffers, then it goes to their sheer incompetence, and his vanity.

It isn’t about him.

It’s about respecting a man who spent 50+ years in public service, nearly dying several times while in the Navy (the Forrestal incident and then as a POW).

All that happened while Trump was dodging the draft so he could have his own personal Vietnam at Studio 54.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:30:12am

huzzah for Australian nannas…

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Charles Johnson  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:30:17am
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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:30:18am

re: #348 Kragar

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A president that has to be shamed into being a decent human being has never been one. If he releases such a proclamation now, it’s not because he’s had a “change of heart” or because of “long thought,” it’s because the same people in the press office who beat him into reading prepared statements after Charlottesville and Helsinki have again pistol-whipped him into showing an ounce of fake humanity.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:30:46am

watch this:

as the states avalanche and lower their flags
the white house quietly lowers theirs - early in the am tomorrow or the next day

when asked, sanders says “it was an error by some flunkie and was corrected immediately when we found out”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:31:51am

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

huzzah for Australian nannas…

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Throw a python on the barbie?

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Teukka  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:32:28am

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

huzzah for Australian nannas…

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One bad-ass nanna O.O

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:32:36am

re: #360 dangerman

watch this:

as the states avalanche and lower their flags
the white house quietly lowers theirs - early in the am tomorrow or the next day

when asked, sanders says “it was an error by some flunkie and was corrected immediately when we found out”

The magabots are gonna have to get it into gear to defend this.

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:33:15am

re: #360 dangerman

watch this:

as the states avalanche and lower their flags
the white house quietly lowers theirs - early in the am tomorrow or the next day

when asked, sanders says “it was an error by some flunkie and was corrected immediately when we found out”

Agree on the former part, disagree on the latter. They’ll spin it as the White House needing time to write a proclamation encompassing how great and awesome McCain was…before releasing something so generic you could mistake it for a pre-written macro.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:33:20am

re: #361 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Throw a python on the barbie?

I wouldn’t. So many extremely sharp ribs are going to tear a person up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:33:27am

re: #362 Teukka

One bad-ass nanna O.O

it’s like she has loads of experience with that situation.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:34:04am

re: #349 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If you turn purple when you’re already orange…where does that end up?

Brown—-ish?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:35:01am
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BeachDem  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:35:06am

re: #350 Anymouse 🌹

I bet I can guess what happened.

My own state governor usually issues proclamations that say “the President has ordered the flag to half-staff” and releases them.

I’m guessing the So. Car. governor’s office prepared such a statement in advance, and simply released it with the assumption the President would release such a proclamation; or they used a boilerplate proclamation and just inserted the relevant information.

Henry McMaster, one of the original yam butt-kissers, should have known better. Wonder if he’ll change it to remain in the asshole’s good graces (new polling shows James Smith within 4 points of Henry—wonder if the yam turns on Henry, how it will affect the race)

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wrenchwench  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:35:17am

re: #367 dangerman

Brown—-ish?

Ish; emphasis on the ish.

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Targetpractice  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:36:45am
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lawhawk  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:37:36am

Media is still giving Trump passes on claiming a deal was struck.

Ask him specifics on the deal struck. What was changed. SPECIFICALLY.

What will change from NAFTA? BE SPECIFIC. Here’s the text - ask what is changing. A great negotiator would be able to tell you what is changing. If he can’t even manage that, then ask why he doesn’t know.

The media just goes out there and repeats his stuff at these pressers, all while later acknowledging Trump pushed his vapid vaporware again and again.

Even the USTR recognizes this isn’t repealing NAFTA or invoking Congressional action on the repeal. They’re looking to modify some provisions - not an entire rewrite.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:38:16am

re: #360 dangerman

watch this:

as the states avalanche and lower their flags
the white house quietly lowers theirs - early in the am tomorrow or the next day

when asked, sanders says “it was an error by some flunkie and was corrected immediately when we found out”

She’s such a pathetic liar.

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dangerman  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:38:28am

re: #358 Charles Johnson

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Mr. President, do you have any thoughts on John McCain? Do you have any thoughts at all about John McCain? Do you believe John McCain was a hero, sir? Nothing at all about John McCain? OK.”

With that continued silence he just keeps digging the hole deeper

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:39:00am

sit down and STFU, Hugh

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:40:06am

re: #371 Targetpractice

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He doesn’t get that McCain was liked more than he was because McCain wasn’t a stupid asshole who thought he was awesome. McCain was fully aware he wasn’t perfect.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:40:16am

wait, whut????

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:42:13am

re: #372 lawhawk

Media is still giving Trump passes on claiming a deal was struck.

Ask him specifics on the deal struck. What was changed. SPECIFICALLY.

What will change from NAFTA? BE SPECIFIC. Here’s the text - ask what is changing. A great negotiator would be able to tell you what is changing. If he can’t even manage that, then ask why he doesn’t know.

The media just goes out there and repeats his stuff at these pressers, all while later acknowledging Trump pushed his vapid vaporware again and again.

Even the USTR recognizes this isn’t repealing NAFTA or invoking Congressional action on the repeal. They’re looking to modify some provisions - not an entire rewrite.

Wall Street is just very, very happy Trump isn’t blowing it up.

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wrenchwench  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:43:59am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

wait, whut????

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:45:42am

re: #365 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Never had rattlesnake chili I take it?

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ObserverArt  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:46:26am

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

hey, Art!

Eric Garland ✔
@ericgarland
CORRUPTION CONNECTED TO PAYDAY LENDING ALLEGED

Meanwhile little fuckwad Mike DeWine is running ads in his governors race against Richard Cordray calling his time as Secretary of State corrupt even though he went after big banks and their bad practices in Ohio.

Then he attacks him for his time as the head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau saying he “secretly collected hundreds of millions of credit card accounts and mortgages. Worse, Cordray failed to protect our information. It was hacked over 200 times.”

That is called mostly false by PolitiFact and the only “hack” to the credit card info was more due to the contractors hired to enter the info. Plus, that was all done to set up the bureau even before Cordary started operating it.

So, what is the Ohio House Speaker, who resigned his seat due to bad dealing being investigated for? That’s right…payday lending scams.

And DeWine probably knew it was all going on being the Ohio Attorney General.

But don’t vote for the guy who was trying to protect ALL Americans against bad lending practices.

I hope that little snake DeWine gets beaten by Cordray…but right now it is too close.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:46:54am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

wait, whut????

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I guess that’s one Broadway musical for Mike Pence to feel safe at.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:46:57am

re: #380 Single-handed sailor

Never had rattlesnake chili I take it?

Of course not. Never ate road kill either.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:48:47am

re: #383 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Of course not. Never ate road kill either.

“Darrel, go on out to the Interstate and see what the Special of the Day is.”

—Larry

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HappyWarrior  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:49:19am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

sit down and STFU, Hugh

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Yeah just like you forget you have a functioning brain when you suck off Trump, Hughie.

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ObserverArt  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:49:26am

re: #349 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If you turn purple when you’re already orange…where does that end up?

Somewhere around flame red.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:51:16am

re: #369 BeachDem

Upding for “yam butt-kissers”.

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ObserverArt  Aug 27, 2018 • 11:56:23am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

sit down and STFU, Hugh

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Well, at least Hugh wiped his mouth off before getting in front of the camera.

No one swallows Trump better than Hugh Hewitt.


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