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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

PJ And Tobin And Squi — NSFW; Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here today; Trump attacks female reporters at NAFTA press conference; Trump and Provigil; Miss Lindsey doesn’t give a shit about you; Mitch McConnell confronted by activists; Don Junior’s more worried about his sons than his daughters potentially being raped; Kavanaugh’s bar fight; All of Kavanaugh’s lies; Rape statistics and seeking help; QAnon’s latest gibberish; and so much more.

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192 comments

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 2, 2018 • 2:53:18pm
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jaunte  Oct 2, 2018 • 2:55:13pm

This White House persists in fucking around with all of us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2018 • 2:58:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 2:59:03pm

re: #1 Ace Rothstein

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When this all catches up to Donnie. Can we put him on a rocket to Russia?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:00:38pm

Soooo. 2 months ago I had to have a crown replaced due to a cavity sneaking in underneath it (I had the crown for 18 years) dentist got it done, cavity cleaned out and said no root canal needed. Everything was going pretty spiffy then the last week or so it would be senstive to hot and cold now and then and would hurt a little. Woke up at 2 am this morning damn near screaming in pain, the whole side of my face where the tooth is hurt, couldn’t breathe through my nose without pain, tooth was throbbing. I call the dentist, leave a message and proceed to do morning training (prepping for a power lifting meet in January). Dentist gets back to me, prescribes some antibiotics and tylenol 3s and sets me up with an appointment this afternoon. I go in he takes an xray and says “Hmmm if the antibiotics don’t start kicking in by tomorrow then you will probably need a root canal”. The upside is I told him the Tylenol 3s only lasted for an hour so now I have norco.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:01:51pm
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Ace Rothstein  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:02:42pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Mars.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:03:48pm
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jaunte  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:06:27pm
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electrotek  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:07:34pm

More vile anti-Semitism from an aging Malaysian autocrat

Mahathir, who at 93 became the world’s oldest head of government after starting his second stint as prime minister in May, has for decades been accused of anti-Semitism for his attacks against Jews, whom he has accused of perpetrating a humanitarian crisis in the Palestinian territories.

“If you are going to be truthful, the problem in the Middle East began with the creation of Israel. That is the truth. But I cannot say that,” he said in an interview on BBC’s Hard Talk.

Calling Israelis “special”, Mahathir, prime minister of Muslim-majority Malaysia, challenged historical accounts that six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, arguing that the figure was four million.

When asked why he described Jews as “hook-nosed” in his book The Malay Dilemma, he said: “They are hook-nosed. Many people called the Malays fat-nosed. We didn’t object, we didn’t go to war for that.”

What the fuck?

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electrotek  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:09:51pm

Blaming Jews solely for the instability of the Middle East is a fucking cop-out.

It’s like blaming Muslims solely for the Lebanese Civil War, which is further from the truth.

When will people realize that in the Middle East, no group has clean fucking hands to begin with?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:10:32pm

O_o

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KGxvi  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:12:51pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

For some reason, when Learned Hand said things like this:

Over and over again courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging one’s affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everybody does so, rich or poor; and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands: taxes are enforced exactions, not voluntary contributions. To demand more in the name of morals is mere cant.

I’m guessing he wasn’t including things like tax fraud.

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austin_blue  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:12:53pm

re: #10 electrotek

More vile anti-Semitism from an aging Malaysian autocrat

What the fuck?

Look at the hook on this one!

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:13:06pm

“Where ya going with that UB40 in your hand?”

Katrina and The Waves - Going Down To Liverpool

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:13:56pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:14:08pm

re: #9 jaunte

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When you argument is “We had a few beers, but we never lost control,” a letter admitting you were a loud and obnoxious drunk doesn’t really bolster your case.

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fern01  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:14:46pm

re: #2 jaunte

So many stories about “young men being presumed guilty” - not a word about young women continuing to be sexually attacked. trump isn’t even president* to 60 million, just those who weren’t raped - or at least had the decency to say it was their own fault.

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electrotek  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:15:00pm

You know, just when I thought Mahathir Mohammed was getting to my good graces when he unequivocally condemned the caning of a lesbian couple for having sex in their car not too long ago, he fucks it all up with this his anti-Semitic drivel.

Goddammit.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:15:15pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

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O_o

Same shit they sold back in ‘16, remember? “So what if he cheated on his taxes? He’s a businessman, he should be trying to keep as much of his money as possible! If he fooled the IRS, then he’s a good businessman, not a cheat!”

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:15:57pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Just call her a liar and be done with it, Mitch. This tap dance routine got old days ago.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:16:34pm
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Teddy's Person  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:16:36pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

When you argument is “We had a few beers, but we never lost control,” a letter admitting you were a loud and obnoxious drunk doesn’t really bolster your case.

Kav’s group seems particularly proud of drinking themselves sick.

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KGxvi  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:17:20pm

re: #18 fern01

So many stories about “young men being presumed guilty” - not a word about young women continuing to be sexually attacked. trump isn’t even president* to 60 million, just those who weren’t raped - or at least had the decency to say it was their own fault.

Other than the Duke Lacrosse case, when was the last time a credible case of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault turned out to be false? I really can’t think of any (and as much as I generally dislike Duke and all it stands for, I did feel sorry for those guys).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:18:26pm

I will be so fucking happy when Mitch is out of the Senate for good.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:19:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:29:27pm

re: #9 jaunte

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The Federalist? Like we needed more proof that Kav can’t be impartial.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:29:53pm

Finally remembered the term I read last week, for the way guys, especially teenage boys, act to impress each other, often using girls as props, as Kavanaugh did to Ford to impress Judge:

Performative Masculinity.

Same thing he did on Thursday. Same thing Graham did. Same thing the clowns who today are bragging about bar fights.

Other species beat their chests, bare their teeth, or fan out their tail feathers.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:33:54pm

re: #28 Blind Frog Belly White

Finally remembered the term I read last week, for the way guys, especially teenage boys, act to impress each other, often using girls as props, as Kavanaugh did to Ford to impress Judge:

Performative Masculinity.

Same thing he did on Thursday. Same thing Graham did. Same thing the clowns who today are bragging about bar fights.

Other species beat their chests, bare their teeth, or fan out their tail feathers.

HELP ME…just the thought of Lindsay doing Rick Dees Disco Duck!!!!!!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:34:45pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

The Federalist? Like we needed more proof that Kav can’t be impartial.

Too bad all judges nominated for the SC (other courts too?) by Trump are Federalist Society recommendations — and therefore not impartial or thoughtful, but partisan to the core.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:35:55pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:38:10pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Happy, in case you missed it, I answered your Cleveland Indians question on the last thread.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:38:22pm

re: #30 Hecuba’s daughter

Too bad all judges nominated for the SC (other courts too?) by Trump are Federalist Society recommendations — and therefore not impartial or thoughtful, but partisan to the core.

The Federalist and Federalist Society are different I believe.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:38:44pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:40:09pm

re: #31 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I remember when Conservatives pretended to believe in law and order. Now they’re just openly corrupt, trying to steal whatever they can.

A large part of modern Conservatism is built around the idea that Lib’ruls have made government illegitimate, so cheating on your taxes is good.

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BlueGrl21  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:41:10pm

re: #28 Blind Frog Belly White

Performative Masculinity.

I love that term. Bravo.

I had to report a guy for that at a company I worked for. Tech company. It’s me in a room of executives, all men. I was 27 years old. We were talking about surfing, just chit chat. One of the guys, trying to impress the other men, said, “Oh, we all know you, Jen. You’ll ride anything that swells.”

That was my last straw with that asshole. I reported him to HR and the CTO, who saw the whole thing, backed me up and said to get rid of him. He was done.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:41:45pm

re: #35 Blind Frog Belly White

A large part of modern Conservatism is built around the idea that Lib’ruls have made government illegitimate, so cheating on your taxes is good.

When in reality, Liberals reduce the corruption that Conservatives put into government.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:41:48pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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OFFS

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electrotek  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:42:10pm

re: #36 BlueGrl21

I love that term. Bravo.

I had to report a guy for that at a company I worked for. Tech company. It’s me in a room of executives, all men. I was 27 years old. We were talking about surfing, just chit chat. One of the guys, trying to impress the other men, said, “Oh, we all know you, Jen. You’ll ride anything that swells.”

That was my last straw with that asshole. I reported him to HR and the CTO, who saw the whole thing, backed me up and said to get rid of him. He was done.

Holy shit.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:42:11pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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And the Fuck-up Four will give it their blessing because one has his eyes on a possible presidential run, one is facing reelection in Trumpistan, one is looking at her own reelection run in 2 years, and the last comes from a state that thought Sarah Palin was presidential timber.

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jaunte  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:42:20pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:43:04pm

re: #36 BlueGrl21

I love that term. Bravo.

I had to report a guy for that at a company I worked for. Tech company. It’s me in a room of executives, all men. I was 27 years old. We were talking about surfing, just chit chat. One of the guys, trying to impress the other men, said, “Oh, we all know you, Jen. You’ll ride anything that swells.”

That was my last straw with that asshole. I reported him to HR and the CTO, who saw the whole thing, backed me up and said to get rid of him. He was done.

Even if that was his first offense, it wold be totally unacceptable, and I’d wonder if he was drunk or high.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:43:23pm

re: #35 Blind Frog Belly White

Meant to add, part of this is that Democrats would do whatever norm-breaking, rule-smashing thing Republicans have to do to get their wishes, if they had the chance, so Republicans have to do it.

Of course, the fact that Democrats had been in that position, and DIDN’T do that doesn’t enter into their thinking.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:44:31pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:45:36pm

re: #33 HappyWarrior

The Federalist and Federalist Society are different I believe.

My error. You are right — it doesn’t appear that the Federalist is associated with the Federalist Society. Of course, neither is interested in thoughtful analysis of our problems or legal analysis; they both foster right-wing ideologies.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:46:21pm

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KGxvi  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:46:22pm

re: #41 jaunte

Somewhat might want to point out that the sanctions bill came after the interference. You know, once it helped the Republicans.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:46:46pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:48:28pm

The party of “law and order” comes out in favor of bar-fighting.

At this point, they’re not far from endorsing shitting in one’s hand and flinging it at others.

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KGxvi  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:48:47pm

re: #43 Blind Frog Belly White

Meant to add, part of this is that Democrats would do whatever norm-breaking, rule-smashing thing Republicans have to do to get their wishes, if they had the chance, so Republicans have to do it.

Of course, the fact that Democrats had been in that position, and DIDN’T do that doesn’t enter into their thinking.

It’s all projection on the part of Republicans. So when Democrats are in office, they take anything that possibly looks like a scandal and turn it into the next Watergate (see Benghazi, see the Tea Party/IRS bullshit). It’s always easy to convince yourself that if you’re playing fast and loose with the rules it’s ok because so is everyone else and only a sucker would follow the rules.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:49:14pm

re: #46 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Stolen and posted to my Facebook where I no longer give a fuck about being political.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:52:20pm

No, seriously, that’s how he signed it.

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jeffreyw  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:52:36pm

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Carne Adovada

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:52:47pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

The party of “law and order” comes out in favor of bar-fighting.

At this point, they’re not far from endorsing shitting in one’s hand and flinging it at others.

“Who among us…?”

(raises hand)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:54:29pm

re: #45 Hecuba’s daughter

My error. You are right — it doesn’t appear that the Federalist is associated with the Federalist Society. Of course, neither is interested in thoughtful analysis of our problems or legal analysis; they both foster right-wing ideologies.

Oh for sure.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:54:57pm

re: #52 goddamnedfrank

No, seriously, that’s how he signed it.

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Lovely.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:55:40pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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It’s possible that this is just Trump people leaking this without any real basis.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:56:49pm

re: #52 goddamnedfrank

No, seriously, that’s how he signed it.

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So, clearly the FFFFF was an affectionate - nay, brotherly! - jest, aimed at a classmate with a stammer, as Kavanaugh described in his testimony.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 2, 2018 • 3:57:58pm

re: #21 Targetpractice

Just call her a liar and be done with it, Mitch. This tap dance routine got old days ago.

What’s hurtful is knowing that the American public may reward Republicans in November by allowing them to maintain the Senate. Sigh.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:00:38pm

re: #28 Blind Frog Belly White

Finally remembered the term I read last week, for the way guys, especially teenage boys, act to impress each other, often using girls as props, as Kavanaugh did to Ford to impress Judge:

Performative Masculinity.

Same thing he did on Thursday. Same thing Graham did. Same thing the clowns who today are bragging about bar fights.

Other species beat their chests, bare their teeth, or fan out their tail feathers.

I know that lots of people think we are not at all like animals, but I am fairly certain that most social behaviors have animal analogues.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:02:03pm

re: #60 Jebediah, RBG

I know that lots of people think we are not at all like animals, but I am fairly certain that most social behaviors have animal analogues.

Of course, since we are animals. Of course we’re supposed to file lawsuits, rather than beating our chests these days.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:02:48pm

re: #59 Patricia Kayden

What’s hurtful is knowing that the American public may reward Republicans in November by allowing them to maintain the Senate. Sigh.

I’ll stay sane as long as the House flips.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:04:15pm

re: #62 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’ll stay sane as long as the House flips.

You and me both. But if the Senate doesn’t flip, we oldies will have RW judges ruling us for the rest of our lives.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:04:24pm

re: #62 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’ll stay sane as long as the House flips.

If the House doesn’t flip, I fucking will.

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Targetpractice  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:05:39pm

re: #64 Blind Frog Belly White

If the House doesn’t flip, I fucking will.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:06:46pm
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KGxvi  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:11:51pm

re: #63 Hecuba’s daughter

You and me both. But if the Senate doesn’t flip, we oldies will have RW judges ruling us for the rest of our lives.

Given population densities in this country, I’m coming around to the idea that we have a structural problem with the Senate. When half the Senate represents just 18% of the population, and another 20 Senators or so represent half the population, it is hard to consider the Senate a representative body.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:13:57pm

re: #67 KGxvi

Given population densities in this country, I’m coming around to the idea that we have a structural problem with the Senate. When half the Senate represents just 18% of the population, and another 20 Senators or so represent half the population, it is hard to consider the Senate a representative body.

The thing is, it’s done that way intentionally - that’s literally the reason the Senate was created, to give states with smaller populations some real power in American government. The problem, as I see it, is that the system breaks down when a political party turns into a religious organization (and/or vice versa).

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Dave In Austin  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:15:07pm
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piratedan  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:16:43pm

with all of this information coming about the Honorable Judge Kavanaugh coming to light and the FBI investigation supposedly ending early it almost makes me wonder if the FBI found so much damning evidence that indicates that not only has he assaulted women in the past, they’ve concluded that he absolutely did perjure himself in front of Congress that it’s a slam dunk the other way and that they’ve found him profoundly unfit for SCOTUS?

Granted, NOTHING from this Administration appears to withstand an iota of non-partisan scrutiny, but perhaps this is something where the FBI could actually come back and tell Senator Flake that his worries were indeed justified and that the FBI would find plenty of information that could indeed be damning as to prevent his nomination going forward, sure, maybe it’s overly naïve and optimistic, and to be honest, the FBI could say that he’s every bit the histrionic lying scumbag that he’s proven himself to be and it wouldn’t matter a damn to Uncle Mitchie and the Misogyny Superfriends….

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KGxvi  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:16:57pm

re: #68 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The thing is, it’s done that way intentionally - that’s literally the reason the Senate was created, to give states with smaller populations some real power in American government. The problem, as I see it, is that the system breaks down when a political party turns into a religious organization (and/or vice versa).

But I don’t think we’ve ever had a time when it was this unbalanced.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:18:36pm

re: #71 KGxvi

But I don’t think we’ve ever had a time when it was this unbalanced.

Such was the thrust of my comment. It’s only becoming a problem now because people in those over-represented states are blindly voting for a single political party, not based on principles or reasoned thought, but because a man in a suit told them that’s what God wants them to do.

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:20:20pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:21:29pm

re: #72 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Such was the thrust of my comment. It’s only becoming a problem now because people in those over-represented states are blindly voting for a single political party, not based on principles or reasoned thought, but because a man in a suit told them that’s what God wants them to do.

The Protestants don’t even put in the effort of costumes and funny hats, but the sheep still fall into line. All it takes is a suit, self-confidence, and the absence of a conscience. What a racket.

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KGxvi  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:22:55pm

re: #72 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Such was the thrust of my comment. It’s only becoming a problem now because people in those over-represented states are blindly voting for a single political party, not based on principles or reasoned thought, but because a man in a suit told them that’s what God wants them to do.

I’m looking at old census numbers now (because of course I am). 1790 census had 3.89m people (including slaves). About half the population was in 4 states, giving them 8 Senators out of 32. So I guess we’re actually “close” to what was intended.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:24:29pm

re: #75 KGxvi

I’m looking at old census numbers now (because of course I am). 1790 census had 3.89m people (including slaves). About half the population was in 4 states, giving them 8 Senators out of 32. So I guess we’re actually “close” to what was intended.

I’d be very interested in an infographic showing how that balance has shifted over time. That sort of thing appeals to me.

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sagehen  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:24:43pm

re: #68 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The thing is, it’s done that way intentionally - that’s literally the reason the Senate was created, to give states with smaller populations some real power in American government. The problem, as I see it, is that the system breaks down when a political party turns into a religious organization (and/or vice versa).

When it was created that way, more than 70% of Americans lived in small towns — agricultural places, wilderness places, etc. Less than 30% lived in the cities. The most populous state had 4x the population of the least populous.

There was meant to be a slight tilt towards the sparsely populated zones, and it’s not the least bit “slight” anymore.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:25:01pm

re: #67 KGxvi

Given population densities in this country, I’m coming around to the idea that we have a structural problem with the Senate. When half the Senate represents just 18% of the population, and another 20 Senators or so represent half the population, it is hard to consider the Senate a representative body.

That’s what I have said for a long while: the Constitution has, in effect, gerrymandered the Senate so that a majority vote can represent 18% of the population; this is a serious problem. One day the losing candidate for President will receive 60% of the popular vote. We haven’t yet come to terms with the toxic design bequeathed us by our slave-holding founders. Unless we figure out some way to repair these flaws, we will face a very rocky future, even if we survive the current disaster.

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KGxvi  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:26:22pm

re: #76 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’d be very interested in an infographic showing how that balance has shifted over time. That sort of thing appeals to me.

It’s complicated by slavery, as well. That 50% in 1790 included almost 400k slaves out of just under 2m people. But I suspect it probably moves opposite the power base of the House.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:26:26pm

re: #68 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The thing is, it’s done that way intentionally - that’s literally the reason the Senate was created, to give states with smaller populations some real power in American government. The problem, as I see it, is that the system breaks down when a political party turns into a religious organization (and/or vice versa).

When it was done, the population ratio of the largest and smallest states was 12:1. It’s now over 60:1. Add to that the fact that the Constitution was written for a fairly loose confederation of semi-independent former colonies, not a modern, centralized state. There’s really NO REASON why the 579,000 residents of Wyoming have equal power to California’s 40 Million in confirming nominations or passing legislation. That’s insanity.

The problem is, of course that changing it requires 3/4 of the states to ratify an amendment, which would mean some at least would be ceding power.

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KGxvi  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:28:49pm

re: #77 sagehen

When it was created that way, more than 70% of Americans lived in small towns — agricultural places, wilderness places, etc. Less than 30% lived in the cities. The most populous state had 4x the population of the least populous.

There was meant to be a slight tilt towards the sparsely populated zones, and it’s not the least bit “slight” anymore.

In the 1790 census, Virginia had 747,610 people (including 292,627 slaves), Delaware had 59,094 (8,887 slaves included). So it was over 10 times. But now we’re at about 60 times.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:29:29pm

There’s a prediction that by 2040, or maybe earlier, 30% of the population will be represented by 70 Senators. That 30% is much more rural and much more white than America is on average.

I could see this coming to blows.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:30:52pm

re: #82 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s a prediction that by 2040, or maybe earlier, 30% of the population will be represented by 70 Senators. That 30% is much more rural and much more white than America is on average.

I could see this coming to blows.

Well, we’ve already had a public caning on the floor of the Senate, what’s next?

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KGxvi  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:30:56pm

re: #82 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s a prediction that by 2040, or maybe earlier, 30% of the population will be represented by 70 Senators. That 30% is much more rural and much more white than America is on average.

I could see this coming to blows.

I sort of jokingly said it the other day, but I’m also sort of serious, any state with less than two House seats should be merged with other states until they have at least three seats.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:31:02pm

re: #82 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s a prediction that by 2040, or maybe earlier, 30% of the population will be represented by 70 Senators. That 30% is much more rural and much more white than America is on average.

I could see this coming to blows.

My hope would be that the low population states would accept some loss of power in exchange for not losing all of it.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:31:40pm

re: #10 electrotek

“Calling Israelis “special”, Mahathir, prime minister of Muslim-majority Malaysia, challenged historical accounts that six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, arguing that the figure was four million.”

Four million? Well, that’s all right, then.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:33:26pm

I’m Bart O’Kavanaugh’s age and I drank beer. At high school parties. When I could. Though I had a curfew, so I had to be careful about it and not get very drunk. We considered the party ruined when the Barts showed up. Hey, let’s do something else.

(Actually, I was in a band that played a bunch of those parties. The one I best remember was one we didn’t play because they couldn’t pay us. Some “Bart” shoved me and said, “just fucking play. drink beer, get drunk, have a good time, man.”)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:34:32pm

re: #83 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Well, we’ve already had a public caning on the floor of the Senate, what’s next?

I don’t know, but I don’t see 70% of the population submitting to being ruled by 30% forever, and I’m not sure the 30% are smart enough to act sensibly. They’re the ones who elected Trump, for shit’s sake.

Note also how much this skews the Electoral College. Now, that could be addressed by doubling the size of the House, so that each voter’s representation would be more equal.

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:34:54pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:35:33pm

re: #88 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t know, but I don’t see 70% of the population submitting to being ruled by 30% forever, and I’m not sure the 30% are smart enough to act sensibly. They’re the ones who elected Trump, for shit’s sake.

Note also how much this skews the Electoral College. Now, that could be addressed by doubling the size of the House, so that each voter’s representation would be more equal.

The Electoral College is certainly one artifact I’d be happy to do without. The Senate I could still see a use for in the short term; but this business of the winner of the popular vote losing the election is ridiculous and antiquated.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:38:09pm

re: #90 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Electoral College is certainly one artifact I’d be happy to do without. The Senate I could still see a use for in the short term; but this business of the winner of the popular vote losing the election is ridiculous and antiquated.

Yeah, I tend to take a more radical “Fuck The States” view, after hearing wingnuts whine and bitch about how “The Cities” shouldn’t be allowed to dominate over “Real America”, as if The Cities aren’t just fucking CHOCK FULL of real Americans.

Plus, having grown up in rural America, I have an extremely jaundiced view of rural Americans in general.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:39:32pm
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KGxvi  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:42:03pm

re: #82 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s a prediction that by 2040, or maybe earlier, 30% of the population will be represented by 70 Senators. That 30% is much more rural and much more white than America is on average.

I could see this coming to blows.

There’s also a question of what happens when that rural population starts to age out of working. Who replaces them in the work force? And how do they get services they need like medical care?

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KGxvi  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:43:48pm

re: #92 Blind Frog Belly White

Quite frankly, whether he still has a problem with alcohol should also be an issue for his fitness as a justice.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:44:12pm

Will any Dems be stupid enough to vote for Kavanagh?

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:45:28pm

re: #82 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s a prediction that by 2040, or maybe earlier, 30% of the population will be represented by 70 Senators. That 30% is much more rural and much more white than America is on average.

I could see this coming to blows.

Isn’t it already about that? I think 70 Senators represent about 34% of the population. This can lead to disaster — but to be fair, several of the larger states are red states including Texas, the second largest state today. Also shouldn’t Florida and Michigan be considered red states now given how they are governed?

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KGxvi  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:46:01pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Will any Dems be stupid enough to vote for Kavanagh?

And the corollary, will any Republicans be smart enough to vote against Kavanaugh?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:47:05pm

re: #94 KGxvi

Quite frankly, whether he still has a problem with alcohol should also be an issue for his fitness as a justice.

Even if he stopped drinking, the way he raged and cried should have ended that interview. Even leaving out the paranoid raving about the Clintons, he bombed that interview.

The paranoid ravings should lead to removal from his current job, but I doubt if it’ll happen.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:48:31pm

re: #93 KGxvi

There’s also a question of what happens when that rural population starts to age out of working. Who replaces them in the work force? And how do they get services they need like medical care?

Well, part of the reason why rural areas are less populated is there are fewer jobs, so replacement in the workforce is less a problem than rural unemployment.

Services, OTOH, are a big problem because rural hospitals strain to stay open. The Medicaid expansion under Obamacare helped a lot, but still - you end up with healthcare deserts.

At least, so I understand.

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:48:43pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:50:53pm

re: #100 gocart mozart

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:50:56pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:51:45pm

re: #96 Hecuba’s daughter

Isn’t it already about that? I think 70 Senators represent about 34% of the population. This can lead to disaster — but to be fair, several of the larger states are red states including Texas, the second largest state today. Also shouldn’t Florida and Michigan be considered red states now given how they are governed?

I didn’t make a Red/Blue division, because the person who stated the prediction didn’t either.

But I am very concerned about the white minority, especially a rural white minority, running one house of Congress, having the whip hand over judicial appointments, etc.

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:52:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:55:23pm

re: #92 Blind Frog Belly White

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austin_blue  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:55:43pm

Reading a recent Cory Doctorow novel (Boing Boing, Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom) called Walkaway. Interesting. One of his three original protagonists goes by the moniker of Iceweasel.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:58:37pm

Buffy the Vampire Slayer Is Now a Kavanaugh Accuser-Bashing Trump Troll (The Daily Beast)

I was all “WTF?” when I read the headline, but it’s just Kristy Swanson, who apparently says the stupid things Conservatives believe about their out-group on Twitter. I guess she’s all in for Judge Rapey.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 4:59:28pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Will any Dems be stupid enough to vote for Kavanagh?

I think Manchin is the only one I can see doing it at this point. Heidencamp, I think she has a big way of voting no on it since her opponent has said “Even if he did it, he still should be confirmed.” I’d love Manchin to prove me wrong about him on this though.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:01:04pm

re: #107 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Buffy the Vampire Slayer Is Now a Kavanaugh Accuser-Bashing Trump Troll (The Daily Beast)

I was all “WTF?” when I read the headline, but it’s just Kristy Swanson, who apparently says the stupid things Conservatives believe about their out-group on Twitter. I guess she’s all in for Judge Rapey.

I’m sorry but who. Why do conservatives always go with C list celebs?

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gwangung  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:02:21pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I’m sorry but who. Why do conservatives always go with C list celebs?

Because they want to claim persecution points about the nature of the C-listness of their celebrities?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:03:57pm

re: #110 gwangung

Because they want to claim persecution points about the nature of the C-listness of their celebrities?

Yeah that does make sense. I’ve noticed the right wing A-listers that do exist are less whiny because they know there’s not a great conspiracy to keep conservatives out of the entertainment business.

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:04:16pm
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dangerman  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:05:15pm

re: #2 jaunte

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Kavanaugh s critics are using all his weaknesses and issues of unfitness

We’re not requirerd to pick just one

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:05:54pm

re: #78 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s what I have said for a long while: the Constitution has, in effect, gerrymandered the Senate so that a majority vote can represent 18% of the population; this is a serious problem. One day the losing candidate for President will receive 60% of the popular vote. We haven’t yet come to terms with the toxic design bequeathed us by our slave-holding founders. Unless we figure out some way to repair these flaws, we will face a very rocky future, even if we survive the current disaster.

We can reduce the problem with the electoral college by expanding the House to say 1,000 seats. The number of electors will more than double, going to the more populous states, making the electoral college more representative.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:06:24pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:07:34pm

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, part of the reason why rural areas are less populated is there are fewer jobs, so replacement in the workforce is less a problem than rural unemployment.

Services, OTOH, are a big problem because rural hospitals strain to stay open. The Medicaid expansion under Obamacare helped a lot, but still - you end up with healthcare deserts.

At least, so I understand.

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:07:48pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

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O_o

Once again commijtng crimes and not getting caught = brilliance

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:08:11pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:09:02pm

re: #112 gocart mozart

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Probably Cardillo doesn’t have any friends who aren’t assholes. Or maybe just no friends.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:09:13pm
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dangerman  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:09:28pm

re: #13 KGxvi

For some reason, when Learned Hand said things like this:

I’m guessing he wasn’t including things like tax fraud.

What the law demands….

playing the chance of audit oddsnis an entirely other game

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:10:05pm

re: #82 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s a prediction that by 2040, or maybe earlier, 30% of the population will be represented by 70 Senators. That 30% is much more rural and much more white than America is on average.

I could see this coming to blows.

Which problem can be partly alleviated by giving DC, PR and the Pacific islands statehood, goving us 6 senators primarily representing minorities.

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stpaulbear  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:12:35pm

re: #100 gocart mozart

The Late Show

@colbertlateshow
On #LSSC tonight: Since we now know Brett Kavanaugh got into a fight after a #UB40 concert, the only logical next move is to mix him into @UB40official’s biggest (and only) hit, ‘Red, Red Wine.’

After all this talk about UB40, I just want to add my 2 bits. I really disliked the song ‘Red Red Wine’. It sucked when Neil Diamond sang it, and it sucked when UB40 played it. However, UB40 had some really great records that came out in the years before and after that song became everyone’s only memory of that band. UB44 (especially with the hologram cover), Geffery Morgan Loves Colored Girls, and Rat In The Kitchen were all great albums. They were highly political. They’re much more than a one song joke.

Thanks. Rant over.

UB40 - I Won’t Close My Eyes (Remix)

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:13:58pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:16:37pm

House of Wax, at a revival, was my first 3D movie.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:16:56pm

Yeah, I guess Trump treating Ford respectfully wasn’t gonna last…..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:18:12pm

re: #126 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, I guess Trump treating Ford respectfully wasn’t gonna last…..

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Oh please tell me there’s video.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:19:33pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:20:21pm

re: #118 gocart mozart

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That image with Rove should disqualify him right off.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:20:40pm

KY Gov. Matt Bevin’s website link points to a Japanese language hentai site.

The site is NSFW. Enter at your own risk. bevintransition.com

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:22:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:23:00pm

re: #126 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, I guess Trump treating Ford respectfully wasn’t gonna last…..

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You’re the one who nominated the guy who cried I LIKE BEER under oath, jackass.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:24:35pm

Nichols gets some of it. That’s what’s so frustrating.

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stpaulbear  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:26:03pm

re: #126 Blind Frog Belly White

Maggie Haberman

@maggieNYT
Trump now mocking Ford testimony at MS rally. Asks repeated questions, answers to laughter, “I don’t know,” over and over.

Is that going to rank up there with “Aaah, I don’t know what I said, aaahh, I don’t re-mem-ber!” when talking about the NYT reporter? Asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:26:07pm

re: #133 Blind Frog Belly White

Nichols gets some of it. That’s what’s so frustrating.

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Yeah you are right about that. That kind of mindset is more frustrating to deal with than someone like Erickson who insists this is just a giant witchhunt..

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teleskiguy  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:26:21pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:26:58pm

re: #132 HappyWarrior

You’re the one who nominated the guy who cried I LIKE BEER under oath, jackass.

Did that still happen, or is it fake news to be disregarded now? No beer, no beer, you’re the beer.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:27:13pm

re: #133 Blind Frog Belly White

Nichols gets some of it. That’s what’s so frustrating.

Tom Nichols

@RadioFreeTom
How many times can Bart O’Kavanaugh be caught lying to the Senate and still be confirmed?

6:40 PM - Oct 2, 2018

Unlimited? The GOP doesn’t care.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:27:33pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Yeah you are right about that. That kind of mindset is more frustrating to deal with than someone like Erickson who insists this is just a giant witchhunt..

Like I’ve said repeatedly, I want to go back to the days when Republicans were just wrong about everything, not actual Fascists.

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:28:03pm

evening lizards:

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ObserverArt  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:28:06pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh please tell me there’s video.

It’s Trump There will be video. I’m sure there is at least someone working as a pool camera, but the biggies will at least want it recorded.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:28:17pm

re: #133 Blind Frog Belly White

Nichols gets some of it. That’s what’s so frustrating.

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I gave up trying to interact with him long ago. He may occasionally get something right, but he has ideological blind spots the size of Jupiter.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:28:27pm

re: #124 gocart mozart

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What’s their story? Do they run a hotel together where the guests never check out or are they shape shifting beings from outer space?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:28:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:29:20pm

re: #139 Blind Frog Belly White

Like I’ve said repeatedly, I want to go back to the days when Republicans were just wrong about everything, not actual Fascists.

Yeah I hear ya. The days where yeah their policies were just about making the very wealthy but they weren’t for the benefit of Vlad Putin.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:29:23pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:29:55pm
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wheat-dogg  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:31:01pm

Considering the source, I’m doubtful of this report’s veracity.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:31:22pm

re: #147 Blind Frog Belly White

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Donald, can you explain the nominees even a pos like you have had like Neil Gorsuch who weren’t accused of this? Gorsuch even went to the same prep school as Judge Dickface. Stop trying to make Kavanaugh a victim.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:31:40pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:31:53pm

re: #130 wheat-dogg

KY Gov. Matt Bevin’s website link points to a Japanese language hentai site.

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The site is NSFW. Enter at your own risk. bevintransition.com

bevin either grew up or spent time in Japan and claims to be fluent.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:32:19pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

I gave up trying to interact with him long ago. He may occasionally get something right, but he has ideological blind spots the size of Jupiter.

Yeah. I’ve avoided signing up for Twitter, because I sometimes still need to do actual work. If I were on Twitter instead of just reading tweets, I’d probably try to engage him which would, as they say about trying to teach a pig to sing, ‘waste my time and annoy the pig.’

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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:32:32pm
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austin_blue  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:33:12pm

re: #124 gocart mozart

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He’s got his mom’s hair.

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:34:52pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:35:27pm

re: #148 wheat-dogg

Considering the source, I’m doubtful of this report’s veracity.

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Original ricin letters going to DoD story was on CNN, so this seems plausible.

I can’t imagine who’d be smart enough to be able to make weaponized ricin powder while being stupid enough to think Trump reads his mail.

Hell, he doesn’t even read his briefs.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:37:40pm

re: #151 Barefoot Grin

bevin either grew up or spent time in Japan and claims to be fluent.

Maybe he practices his Japanese watching/reading hentai.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:38:03pm
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sagehen  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:38:40pm

Here’s an idea —

if Bezos, Buffett, Gates, Bloomberg, Hanover and half a dozen others put up a billion apiece (which they wouldn’t even miss), they can buy substantial pieces of land in each of those plains states, recruit and subsidize 100,000 hippie dippy liberals to go live in each of those states and write poetry, grow organic vegetables, have a buffalo ranch, etc, and vote D. Solar-powered or wind-powered and satellite internet, atmospheric capture water gadgets, they could even do it off-grid.

There’d have to be enough schoolteachers and construction workers, but city people who are frustrated by the high cost of living might like an outdoorsy place they could have larger houses, nice yards, the kids could run around outside, etc…

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austin_blue  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:40:08pm

re: #155 gocart mozart

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And Brett was 20. Still not old enough to drink, but he “threw his beer into the face of some guy and the fight was on”.

Pretty mean teen drunk, wasn’t our future Supreme Court Justice?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:40:14pm

re: #158 Blind Frog Belly White

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Going after someone who was 15. Such a trash individual. I’m sorry. I knwo we haven’t been a perfect country but what the hell did we deserve to get someone like this even close to the Presidency? Thanks Republicans. You fucking assholes.

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Belafon  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:41:02pm

re: #112 gocart mozart

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gocart mozart  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:41:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:41:26pm

re: #160 austin_blue

And Brett was 20. Still not old enough to drink, but he “threw his beer into the face of some guy and the fight was on”.

Pretty mean teen drunk, wasn’t our future Supreme Court Justice?

Guy is a drunk who has never been held accountable.

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sagehen  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:41:38pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:42:39pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:43:02pm

You can’t make this shit up. Really. Nobody would believe you.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:43:26pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

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Big fat pass.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:44:01pm

re: #167 Blind Frog Belly White

You can’t make this shit up. Really. Nobody would believe you.

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They’re talking about Ford aren’t they? Lock Her Up, the new Sieg Heil.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:44:08pm

re: #156 Blind Frog Belly White

Original ricin letters going to DoD story was on CNN, so this seems plausible.

I can’t imagine who’d be smart enough to be able to make weaponized ricin powder while being stupid enough to think Trump reads his mail.

Hell, he doesn’t even read his briefs.

He gets all his briefings from cable TV.

You know those repetitious articles about “X habits of very successful people”? Getting up early, reading the WSJ and the NYT, answering emails, etc. The message is, do these things and you too will be famously wealthy like Bill Gates or Steve Jobs. Trump does jackshit every day, yet has managed to become POTUS by following the same daily habits as 95% of the American population.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:45:55pm


And only the black guy is in jail.
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:46:05pm

re: #170 wheat-dogg

He gets all his briefings from cable TV.

You know those repetitious articles about “X habits of very successful people”? Getting up early, reading the WSJ and the NYT, answering emails, etc. The message is, do these things and you too will be famously wealthy like Bill Gates or Steve Jobs. Trump does jackshit every day, yet has managed to become POTUS by following the same daily habits as 95% of the American population.

Hey, when the moment’s right for a mendacious racist sociopath, the moment’s right.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:46:37pm

re: #159 sagehen

Here’s an idea —

if Bezos, Buffett, Gates, Bloomberg, Hanover and half a dozen others put up a billion apiece (which they wouldn’t even miss), they can buy substantial pieces of land in each of those plains states, recruit and subsidize 100,000 hippie dippy liberals to go live in each of those states and write poetry, grow organic vegetables, have a buffalo ranch, etc, and vote D. Solar-powered or wind-powered and satellite internet, atmospheric capture water gadgets, they could even do it off-grid.

There’d have to be enough schoolteachers and construction workers, but city people who are frustrated by the high cost of living might like an outdoorsy place they could have larger houses, nice yards, the kids could run around outside, etc…

Sounds like New Mexico right now

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:47:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:50:35pm

re: #174 Blind Frog Belly White

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Hey guys I totally didn’t shit my pants after eating all that Taco Bell and KFC you told me not to because the guy at the drive thru took pity on me and let me even though they were nearly closed.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:50:41pm

Someone asked for video….

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:52:32pm

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

Someone asked for video….

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wheat-dogg  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:53:22pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

I want someone to castrate this fucker live on TV in front of his cult.

I’d settle for a punch in his nose.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:53:30pm

I’m sorry. If that merits deleting, I will but this man is fucking vile. He’s one of the most despicable people I’ve ever seen that have risen through the ranks in our democracy and we had sadistic slave owners in the past too.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:54:02pm

re: #178 wheat-dogg

I’d settle for a punch in his nose.

I want him in tears in front of them. I want him completely humiliated. I want them realizing what a pathetic little man he really is.

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:55:01pm

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

Someone asked for video….

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Murkowski and Collins can kill the entire MeToo movement by voting yes.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:56:00pm
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Belafon  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:56:12pm

re: #159 sagehen

Here’s an idea —

if Bezos, Buffett, Gates, Bloomberg, Hanover and half a dozen others put up a billion apiece (which they wouldn’t even miss), they can buy substantial pieces of land in each of those plains states, recruit and subsidize 100,000 hippie dippy liberals to go live in each of those states and write poetry, grow organic vegetables, have a buffalo ranch, etc, and vote D. Solar-powered or wind-powered and satellite internet, atmospheric capture water gadgets, they could even do it off-grid.

There’d have to be enough schoolteachers and construction workers, but city people who are frustrated by the high cost of living might like an outdoorsy place they could have larger houses, nice yards, the kids could run around outside, etc…

Amazon, Google, and others need to move part of their operations to states in the middle of the country. I know it’s a conceit of states like CA, but most schools have really good teachers and students learn a lot. You should see my graduating class from Abilene in 1988.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 2, 2018 • 5:56:55pm

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

Someone asked for video….

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That was me. Thank you. What an asshole.

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dangerman  Oct 2, 2018 • 6:00:31pm

re: #59 Patricia Kayden

What’s hurtful is knowing that the American public may reward Republicans in November by allowing them to maintain the Senate. Sigh.

electoral-vote.com has it 50 and 50 today

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cat-tikvah  Oct 2, 2018 • 6:00:34pm

Trump in Philly today. Got a fine Philly welcome.
GRITTY!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 2, 2018 • 6:01:46pm

re: #183 Belafon

Amazon, Google, and others need to move part of their operations to states in the middle of the country. I know it’s a conceit of states like CA, but most schools have really good teachers and students learn a lot. You should see my graduating class from Abilene in 1988.

Amazon already moved their headquarters from South Lake Union aaaaaaaaall the waaaaay down here to…Kent. I assumed that was to avoid Seattle’s $15 minimum wage, but apparently not.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 2, 2018 • 6:06:30pm
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dangerman  Oct 2, 2018 • 6:12:29pm

re: #112 gocart mozart

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omg what is happening

They’re trying to normalize it so that it’s ok to put one on the court

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 2, 2018 • 6:13:21pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

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I’m still gonna text back asking them if they could tell tRump “FUCK YOU!” for me.

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austin_blue  Oct 2, 2018 • 7:13:11pm

re: #171 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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And only the black guy is in jail.

My buddy from back in my New Orleans days, Mike Lukovich.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 2, 2018 • 7:13:19pm

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

Someone asked for video….

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Which man’s life is in tatters? Who? How? Is he in jail for life? Is he swinging by the neck from a tree?


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