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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2018 • 11:54:39am
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jaunte  Dec 14, 2018 • 11:55:52am

Every move they make is corrupt.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:00:43pm
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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:01:00pm

re: #2 jaunte

What happens in the family stays in the family… until everything is exposed by federal prosecutors because it was all a grift.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:02:57pm

re: #4 lawhawk

Truly amazing that a professional emails Ivanka to tell her “this looks bad and will get noticed and reported,” but she just goes ahead and grabs the money.

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:04:12pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

OFFS.

Everyone needs a right hand man. Everyone from Washington on down had someone who helped them manage the influx of information and people to the Oval Office. It’s their job to vet information, need, risk, and importance, and manage the President’s time.

These fucknuts are basically saying that Trump doesn’t need to manage his time efficiently or effectively. They’re down with the chaos because that’s what they want. They don’t want government to function properly. They’re out to sabotage it, and Trump’s been the boon to this view among the right wing extremists. They want to watch it all burn.

Concurrently, it’s a position that Russia loves because a hobbled President is one less thing for them to worry about as Trump’s attention span of a gnat can’t and won’t comprehend, let alone respond to Russian (or Chinese, or any other country) aggression.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:07:40pm

This was at the top of my Google News page this morning. I hate how much fucking exposure this crooked network gets.

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Jay C  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:08:30pm

re: #5 jaunte

Truly amazing that a professional emails Ivanka to tell her “this looks bad and will get noticed and reported,” but she just goes ahead and grabs the money.

She was probably just going on the usual Trump Family business model. IOW, she probably never expected anything to be “reported”, still less “audited” by anyone who wasn’t on the “inside” to begin with.

Hope your Vietnamese sweatshops can produce a nice line of orange jumpsuits, Ivanka….

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:08:49pm
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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:13:10pm

re: #5 jaunte

The inauguration was one long con.
1) Saudi funded lobbyist bought block of 500 rooms at Trump’s hotel.
2) From months ago, Mueller was already zeroing in on the inauguration as a slush fund of malfeasance and financial chicanery as Russians and others were throwing money around.
2a) Mueller was also looking at Russian billionaires who were invited to Trump inauguration.
3) Trump inauguration paid $26 million to Melania’s top adviser.
4) Trump inauguration dragged its feet releasing financial details for nearly a year after the inauguration. They made no effort to identify where/how the money was spent.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:13:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:16:44pm
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sagehen  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:32:20pm

re: #6 lawhawk

OFFS.

Everyone needs a right hand man. Everyone from Washington on down had someone who helped them manage the influx of information and people to the Oval Office. It’s their job to vet information, need, risk, and importance, and manage the President’s time.

Reminder: Washington’s right-hand man throughout the war was Alexander Hamilton. More than 10 years.

That’s why/how Washington developed such trust in Hamilton’s knowledge and judgment and unconventional suggestions, and backed him in every single cabinet battle.

ETA: that’s also why Jefferson and Burr were so crazy jealous of him.

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:36:03pm
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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:38:55pm

re: #13 sagehen

Right Hand Man

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Teukka  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:39:03pm

re: #14 lawhawk

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Also, making a fool out of himself may embolden elements to try shit. And that may last years after he’s gone (regardless if it is impeachment or sitting his term(s) out).

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:39:24pm
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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:40:11pm

2012 Video Emerges Showing Trump’s Understanding of John Edwards Case

Old interview footage has emerged that strongly suggests Donald Trump knew that hush money payouts are illegal. The interview comes from an April 27, 2012 Fox News show hosted by Greta Van Susteren, in which the two spoke about a similar case surrounding former Democratic Presidential candidate John Edwards.

The former Vice Presidential candidate from 2004 campaign went through a similar ordeal in 2011 when he was indicted by a North Carolina grand jury on six felony charges after paying money to Rielle Hunter, a New York-based filmmaker with whom Edwards had an extramarital affair and fathered a child out of wedlock. Edwards was eventually found not guilty on one charge, and a mistrial was declared on the other charges.

More proof that GOPers fail to realize that the interwebs are forever…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:41:00pm
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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:46:00pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow. This thread:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:46:15pm

Blockbuster report on how Manafort advised the WH how to obstruct the investigation, then lied to the FBI and prosecutors about it. Manafort is going to spend the rest of his life in prison if he doesn’t get pardoned.

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:47:58pm

This relates to the secretive hearings that required the entire floor to be emptied at the courthouse earlier today.

The presence of these two attorneys is notable. One is an appellate expert, and the other just wins. Zainab Ahmad is an interesting choice to be on Mueller’s team, since she’s an expert on trying terrorism cases. She’s also fluent in Arabic, so this may relate to Kushner…

We’ll have to wait and see how this shakes out to know for sure.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:48:01pm
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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:50:07pm

The Dow as of 3:49PM EST: -530.45 (-2.16%).

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ObserverArt  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:52:36pm

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

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This was at the top of my Google News page this morning. I hate how much fucking exposure this crooked network gets.

Heh…Fox: “Not necessarily a violation.”

Always the wiggle room in the words.

If no one notices and it doesn’t get caught then it was not necessarily a violation.

It the Republicans refuse to help hold Trump responsible for his infractions, then the hush payments made by Cohen were not necessarily a violation.

Well, they may not be found to necessarily be a violation and instead will be found as yes, they are a violation of campaign finance laws!

Semantics.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:53:44pm

Rolling Thunder says 2019 motorcycle rally will be its last in D.C

A massive annual motorcycle rally staged in Washington will end next year, with organizers citing a lack of law enforcement cooperation and “increased harassment to supporters” as reasons for stopping the 31-year-old tradition.

[…]

“As a result of changing times the organization and Mission needed to be reorganized and reevaluated,” the statement said. “Reasons which determined our decision were the Pentagon Security Police/Washington Police officials continued lack of cooperation, increased harassment to our supporters and sponsors.”

Imagine the putrage if this happened during President Obama’s tenure.

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KGxvi  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:54:51pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

I’m actually surprised we haven’t heard any of the “he’s his own best [insert job title] so of course he should handle it himself” stuff from the wingularity, yet…

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Mike Lamb  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:56:08pm

re: #2 jaunte

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Every move they make is corrupt.

Looking forward to “Orange is the New Black: The Documentary”, starring Ivanka Trump.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:57:01pm

re: #5 jaunte

Truly amazing that a professional emails Ivanka to tell her “this looks bad and will get noticed and reported,” but she just goes ahead and grabs the money.

That’s straight CYA. Which means it’s really, really bad.

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nowherenorth2  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:57:52pm

They spelled my name wrong but today I was in my local paper for something I had written to the local school board:

northcountrynow.com

Basically my school board without a public vote has decided to put an armed officer in school and is using terrible polls to change public policy. I am in a red county in very northern New York and expected as such to pass without much argument from the public and to pass even if it was hated.

Unfortunately I will also fight this kicking and angry

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Mike Lamb  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:58:51pm

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

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This was at the top of my Google News page this morning. I hate how much fucking exposure this crooked network gets.

Yes, it was a violation. How do we know? Because Cohen just pleaded guilty and was sentenced to fucking jail for it. Goddamit. They don’t get to act like it’s a hypothetical at this point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 12:59:11pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:00:11pm

re: #10 lawhawk

The inauguration was one long con.
1) Saudi funded lobbyist bought block of 500 rooms at Trump’s hotel.
2) From months ago, Mueller was already zeroing in on the inauguration as a slush fund of malfeasance and financial chicanery as Russians and others were throwing money around.
2a) Mueller was also looking at Russian billionaires who were invited to Trump inauguration.
3) Trump inauguration paid $26 million to Melania’s top adviser.
4) Trump inauguration dragged its feet releasing financial details for nearly a year after the inauguration. They made no effort to identify where/how the money was spent.

Too much money must be lying around to pass it out like this.

Is there any better reason to up the tax on the rich and huge corporations? Maybe worldwide.

Between the obscene money spent on campaigns by PACs and crap like this I think they can easily afford a better world by spreading a little of that wealth to the people down stream through things like the infrastructure, education, the arts, health and a few dollars an hour to your workers that help make that money you count as all yours.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:05:41pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:07:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:08:12pm
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KGxvi  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:09:11pm

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

I would have thought Cheney’s shotgun would have jumped at the chance to shoot people in the face at the White House

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:10:09pm

BREAKING: Typhoid Mary regretfully turns down the CoS position offered by Trump because she has standards.

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jimmyvluv4u  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:11:51pm

Swamp the drain!
LOL

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TedStriker  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:12:23pm

re: #37 KGxvi

I would have thought Cheney’s shotgun would have jumped at the chance to shoot people in the face at the White House

A shotgun has to have standards…

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:12:57pm

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

LOL

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:13:56pm
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VegasGolfer  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:14:04pm

re: #39 jimmyvluv4u

He really is stupid. He picked Orange County Ca. what he thought was a republican county, but not any longer.

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TedStriker  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:14:15pm

re: #39 jimmyvluv4u

Swamp the drain!
LOL

Sounds like George wants some GOP grift money, either from the terminally stupid or from the party to make him go away.

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Jay C  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:14:51pm

re: #40 TedStriker

A shotgun has to have standards…

But not the caliber Trump’s CoS needs…..

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:15:59pm

re: #39 jimmyvluv4u

found in the comments.

Federal authorities out of Washington DC, working in coordination with Robert Mueller’s team, have in recent days sought to arrange an interview with the author of a letter sent to Congress last month that claimed that ex-Trump adviser George Papadopoulos coordinated with Russians in the weeks following the 2016 election. The person who wrote the letter is expected to travel to DC for an interview with the FBI about the claims, per two U.S. officials involved and the author of the letter. All three have requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the topic.

The FBI is investigating him all over again.

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TedStriker  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:16:24pm

re: #45 Jay C

But not the caliber Trump’s CoS needs…..

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:16:30pm

re: #39 jimmyvluv4u

Swamp the drain!
LOL

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Lol sure.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:16:58pm

re: #37 KGxvi

The shotgun would have felt useless, the people in the white house shoot themselves in the face all on their own.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:19:36pm

re: #44 TedStriker

So what’s the campaign slogan gonna be? Vote for GP, he was only in prison for a couple of weeks?
There has GOT to be an overhaul of campaign finance laws. PACs are nothing but a bank account that runs off other people’s money.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:19:43pm

re: #39 jimmyvluv4u

I think you’ve found someone dumb enough to take the Chief of Staff job.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:20:51pm

re: #50 A Mom Anon

So what’s the campaign slogan gonna be? Vote for GP, he was only in prison for a couple of weeks?
There has GOT to be an overhaul of campaign finance laws. PACs are nothing but a bank account that runs off other people’s money.

Not going to happen as long as the GOP and rightwing Justices have a say in it.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:21:05pm

I say Trump resigns by October 15, 2019. Thoughts?

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Jay C  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:21:30pm

re: #24 Dr. Matt

The Dow as of 3:49PM EST: -530.45 (-2.16%).

Closed at 24,100 - down c. 500 points (2%) on the day: a little off the intraday low, but still quite close to the YTD “floor” (c. 23,500)* - TGIF, I think: Monday is going to be a real gut-wrencher, I think….

*IMO, anyway: 23,500 on the Dow. c. 2550 on the S&P: below these levels, Beware Of Bears….

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Skip Intro  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:22:18pm

re: #51 jaunte

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I think you’ve found someone dumb enough to take the Chief of Staff job.

Jacob Wohl and Charlie Kirk are just hiding out there in PLAIN SIGHT! What’s the hang up?

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:23:25pm

re: #55 Skip Intro

Bill Mitchell… let’s not forget him (well, we should, but can’t).

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:24:01pm

re: #52 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Not going to happen as long as the GOP and rightwing Justices have a say in it.

Then we make them own it. It’s something that has a whole lot of support.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:24:05pm

re: #39 jimmyvluv4u

Swamp the drain!
LOL

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He’s the knight from the Holy Grail.

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Skip Intro  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:24:45pm

re: #56 lawhawk

Bill Mitchell… let’s not forget him (well, we should, but can’t).

I don’t think Bill is a true enough believer for Trump to accept him.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:26:23pm

re: #53 Ace Rothstein

I say Trump resigns by October 15, 2019. Thoughts?

I’m not a psychic, though it would be fun to set up a pool to see who comes closest to guessing when Trump leaves the WH. if I were to guess, since the GOP Senators are craven cowards who won’t cross the Base by voting to remove him, Trump is going to run in 2020 to grab as much cash as he can, then on January 19, 2021 he pardons himself, his family and some loyalists.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:28:39pm

re: #60 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m not a psychic, though it would be fun to set up a pool to see who comes closest to guessing when Trump leaves the WH. if I were to guess, since the GOP Senators are craven cowards who won’t cross the Base by voting to remove him, Trump is going to run in 2020 to grab as much cash as he can, then on January 19, 2021 he pardons himself, his family and some loyalists.

And, on Jan 22, the Justice Department rules that a president cannot pardon himself. The only problem is that the Trump jet has just landed in Moscow.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:31:02pm

re: #46 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

found in the comments.

The FBI is investigating him all over again.

That’ll work out so well for him if he lied to them during his alleged cooperation.

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KGxvi  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:31:24pm

re: #43 VegasGolfer

He really is stupid. He picked Orange County Ca. what he thought was a republican county, but not any longer.

I could see one or two of the districts in Orange County flipping back next cycle. The 39th and 45th would be the most likely. But it’s not likely to happen with someone attached to Trump - Trump is the reason they’ve lost Orange County.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:35:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:35:20pm

here are the “they are not blackface” charms:

they are totally blackface
O_o

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KGxvi  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:36:28pm

re: #53 Ace Rothstein

I say Trump resigns by October 15, 2019. Thoughts?

That’s a pretty good over/under date for a resignation. I’d say the over would be a favorite at -1000, and the under would be +450. I just don’t see him resigning, though - too stubborn/stupid/vain to actually quit.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:39:09pm
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KGxvi  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:39:16pm

re: #61 Belafon

And, on Jan 22, the Justice Department rules that a president cannot pardon himself. The only problem is that the Trump jet has just landed in Moscow.

I’m fine with that. I could also see a scenario where on January 19th, he pardons the family, pardons Pence, then resigns, Pence is sworn in an Oval Office inauguration with some random Trump appointed judge, and then Pence pardons Trump.

I mean, that’s terrible writing by the show runners, but this season of West Wing/House of Cards has jumped the shark, so why not?

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Dr. Matt  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:39:25pm

re: #54 Jay C

Closed at 24,100 - down c. 500 points (2%) on the day: a little off the intraday low, but still quite close to the YTD “floor” (c. 23,500)* - TGIF, I think: Monday is going to be a real gut-wrencher, I think….

*IMO, anyway: 23,500 on the Dow. c. 2550 on the S&P: below these levels, Beware Of Bears….

2% loss. #MAGA.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:40:20pm

re: #61 Belafon

And, on Jan 22, the Justice Department rules that a president cannot pardon himself. The only problem is that the Trump jet has just landed in Moscow.

Well THAT issue will have to be decided by SCOTUS, with at least two Justices appointed by Trump (they won’t recuse, is my guess).

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Danack  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:40:51pm

re: #60 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m not a psychic, though it would be fun to set up a pool to see who comes closest to guessing when Trump leaves the WH.

You’ll need to be precise on the definition to make the guessing be worthwhile:

* Last day he is considered the President by all of the other branches of government.
* Last day _he_ considers himself President.
* Last night spent in the WH which could be under house arrest, while the next president is being sworn in.
etc.

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:42:18pm

The difference between The Weekly Standard and Breitbart is tone.

Weekly Standard - “Illegal Immigrants are law-breaking criminals and terrorists”

Breitbart - “illegal Immigrants are subhuman scum, parasites, leeches, and cockroaches.”

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KGxvi  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:42:43pm

re: #70 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Well THAT issue will have to be decided by SCOTUS, with at least two Justices appointed by Trump (they won’t recuse, is my guess).

I’m not sure they’d have to recuse themselves. Neither were members of the Trump administration (which is why Kagan had to recuse herself a couple of times during her first couple of terms). They don’t have a personal stake in the outcome, either.

And if you’re going to play the partisanship game, remember, it’s most likely that Trump’s successor will be a Democrat who could benefit from the “the president can pardon themself” ruling.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:42:55pm
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dangerman  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:43:26pm

re: #21 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Blockbuster report on how Manafort advised the WH how to obstruct the investigation, then lied to the FBI and prosecutors about it. Manafort is going to spend the rest of his life in prison if he doesn’t get pardoned.

these people think not getting caught in a lie is the same thing as telling the truth

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:43:50pm

I think the most like situation is he gets impeached by the House but the GOP in the Senate doesn’t convict and 2020 is a very gold year for the Dems. He probably pardons a lot of people including himself on the way out but state prosecutors are waiting for him.

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EPR-radar  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:44:56pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

There is no such thing as “thoughtful conservatism” in the US. Perhaps it exists in other parts of the world, but not here.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:45:30pm

re: #77 EPR-radar

There is no such thing as “thoughtful conservatism” in the US. Perhaps it exists in other parts of the world, but not here.

Our thoughtful conservatives exist…..in the Democratic Party.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:45:35pm

re: #71 Danack

You’ll need to be precise on the definition to make the guessing be worthwhile:

* Last day he is considered the President by all of the other branches of government.
* Last day _he_ considers himself President.
* Last night spent in the WH which could be under house arrest, while the next president is being sworn in.
etc.

How about the day before the next President is sworn in.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:51:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:52:14pm
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DodgerFan1988  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:52:58pm

She has a name. Her name is Jackeline Caal. She was murdered by the Trump Administration.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:53:18pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fine with me. We need a healthy field.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:53:36pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think the primary can handle two Texans. Especially if it makes Tulsi’s and Bernie’s runs look that much more ridiculous.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:53:47pm

re: #82 DodgerFan1988

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She has a name. Her name is Jackeline Caal. She was murdered by the Trump Administration.

This is their fault completely.

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:54:55pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

Fine with me. We need a healthy field.

A strong field means a deep bench. It means that there are options, including for VP and cabinet positions.

Anyone who throws hat in ring should make clear that they will release their tax returns, show their work, etc., and be a registered Democrat. These things matter.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:56:23pm

re: #86 lawhawk

A strong field means a deep bench. It means that there are options, including for VP and cabinet positions.

Anyone who throws hat in ring should make clear that they will release their tax returns, show their work, etc., and be a registered Democrat. These things matter.

I want the first and last to be requirements of the DNC.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:59:12pm

Khashoggi

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2018 • 1:59:33pm

re: #86 lawhawk

A strong field means a deep bench. It means that there are options, including for VP and cabinet positions.

Anyone who throws hat in ring should make clear that they will release their tax returns, show their work, etc., and be a registered Democrat. These things matter.

Absolutely. Transparency matters. It’s not just Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:00:06pm

re: #88 Single-handed sailor

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Khashoggi

Yeah but Khashoggi was mean to Trump.

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Dizzy  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:07:19pm

I love the Scorsese reference:

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dangerman  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:08:18pm

re: #80 Belafon

In recent days, HHS has been boosting transparency and cheerleading for ACA enrollment — trying to leave a good impression before Dems launch investigations in January.

as if:

- no one was paying attention for the last 2 years
and/or
- we’re going to immediately forget everything we did see and hear

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:09:41pm
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dangerman  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:10:24pm

re: #86 lawhawk

A strong field means a deep bench. It means that there are options, including for VP and cabinet positions.

Anyone who throws hat in ring should make clear that they will release their tax returns, show their work, etc., and be a registered Democrat. These things matter.

required

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:11:22pm

re: #87 Belafon

I want the first and last to be requirements of the DNC.

The problem with that is that not all states have party ID when you register to vote.

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plansbandc  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:11:30pm

re: #33 ObserverArt

But Meals on Wheels is an unnecessary waste of money. I loathe that orange piece of shit and his enablers. Grifters one and all.

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plansbandc  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:14:12pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

Are we really in the 21st century? Because it feels more like the 19th.

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Mattand  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:14:38pm

re: #21 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Blockbuster report on how Manafort advised the WH how to obstruct the investigation, then lied to the FBI and prosecutors about it. Manafort is going to spend the rest of his life in prison if he doesn’t get pardoned.

These definitely are the actions of a man who is positive he will receive a presidential pardon at some point.

I don’t think that Manafort realizes the odds that Trump will cast him aside are higher than he thinks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:16:26pm
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dangerman  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:18:07pm

re: #95 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The problem with that is that not all states have party ID when you register to vote.

there’s still a party organization
ie in vermont, vermont democratic party

a person could join
show some intent
participate

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:20:32pm

re: #98 Mattand

These definitely are the actions of a man who is positive he will receive a presidential pardon at some point.

I don’t think that Manafort realizes the odds that Trump will cast him aside are higher than he thinks.

It would be typical of a supervillain like Trump to casually discard one of his most loyal Lieutenants.

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wrenchwench  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:21:08pm

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:21:38pm

re: #95 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The problem with that is that not all states have party ID when you register to vote.

It’s for the people running, not the voters.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:23:10pm

welp…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:24:11pm

re: #103 Belafon

It’s for the people running, not the voters.

I understand, but do all state democratic parties actually have people register as party members other than identifying themselves as such when they register to vote? I don’t even know that, for example the Kentucky Democratic Party even keeps such a list.

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KGxvi  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:24:58pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

something something deck chairs something something titanic something something

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:25:27pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp…

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So apparently Mulvaney is willing to step in for awhile, but not accept a permanent appointment as CoS?

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KGxvi  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:26:37pm

re: #107 NO SMOCKING GUN!

So apparently Mulvaney is willing to step in for awhile, but not accept a permanent appointment as CoS?

I’m not sure there’s such thing as a permanent appointment in the Trump administration

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:27:47pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:28:27pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

He was despis-ed.
Despis-ed and rejected.

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Dizzy  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:29:15pm

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:29:32pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wtf.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:29:35pm

re: #105 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I understand, but do all state democratic parties actually have people register as party members other than identifying themselves as such when they register to vote? I don’t even know that, for example the Kentucky Democratic Party even keeps such a list.

You know there’s exactly one person we’re talking about, right? And if you’re running for president, and want to be even considered by the party, you have to have served in some capacity at a high enough level to have registered with the party or at least declared yourself as such.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:30:28pm

yeah, I was wondering about that, too.
I think the moron is trying to cancel out Christie turning him down.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:31:42pm

re: #113 Belafon

You know there’s exactly one person we’re talking about, right? And if you’re running for president, and want to be even considered by the party, you have to have served in some capacity at a high enough level to have registered with the party or at least declared yourself as such.

Well of course I understand its aimed at Bernie, but you can’t have a rule that “Bernie can’t run unless he registers as a Democrat.” It has to be a rule that can by uniformly applied to everyone nationally.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:34:11pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yeah, I was wondering about that, too.
I think the moron is trying to cancel out Christie turning him down.

I would guess he’s buying time while he tries to find someone who isn’t a total joke, like Piers Morgan or Jose Canseco (or Jared), willing to accept the position. It would be a massive humiliation to Trump if he has to admit that no-one wants to be his CoS.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:39:15pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:41:12pm

Possible Trump Chief of Staff (once Mulvaney is gone)?

Martinez homer aided by Canseco’s head

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:41:51pm

Temporary chief of staff lol.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:42:21pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yeah, I was wondering about that, too.
I think the moron is trying to cancel out Christie turning him down.

As I read Trump’s tweet, it sounds like he’s only sticking around through the end of December. About half of which time will be spent in Emol-a-largo.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:45:40pm

So Trump has tapped Mick Mulvaney for Chief of Staff. My only question: Does Mick know?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:46:15pm
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makeitstop  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:46:28pm

So who’s gonna be acting head of OMB?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:48:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:50:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:53:44pm
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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 2:53:45pm

re: #115 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Well of course I understand its aimed at Bernie, but you can’t have a rule that “Bernie can’t run unless he registers as a Democrat.” It has to be a rule that can by uniformly applied to everyone nationally.

Yep, and it’s pretty easy. “You must declare as a Democrat, and if you are in office, you must have your party affiliation be Democrat.”

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:04:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:08:50pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:16:06pm

re: #50 A Mom Anon

So what’s the campaign slogan gonna be? Vote for GP, he was only in prison for a couple of weeks?
There has GOT to be an overhaul of campaign finance laws. PACs are nothing but a bank account that runs off other people’s money.

Didn’t the Citizen’s United decision make it impossible to have any effective campaign finance rules? It would require a Constitutional amendment or a new SC to override that decision.

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ObserverArt  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:19:43pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I was hoping the little brown doggo at the end of the video was going to hike up a leg and piss on the Trump doll.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:22:49pm

Isn’t Mulvaney already busy destroying two other institutions? Oh wait, that makes him perfect for CoS.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:23:21pm

Weird-O-Rama!

Green Party Candidate Named as Fake ‘JFK Jr.’ Profiting From QAnon

Ray Parrish denied the report that he’s who was behind the account QAnon believers credited to JFK Jr., who they say faked his own death and is now rallying with them.

My long dormant science fiction side has awakened to suggest that some actual, physical, organic disease may be responsible for these unprecedented outbursts of mass insanity, a virus that infects the brains of susceptible people and causes them to lose all capacity for reason and critical thinking while maintaining the outward appearance of socialization and consumer conformity.
Nah, but maybe I could make money on the idea by reversing it and making the magic organism responsible for a belief in science and reason.

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ObserverArt  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:24:57pm

re: #116 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I would guess he’s buying time while he tries to find someone who isn’t a total joke, like Piers Morgan or Jose Canseco (or Jared), willing to accept the position. It would be a massive humiliation to Trump if he has to admit that no-one wants to be his CoS.

And since he is obviously pressured to choose a new Chief of Staff and no one really wants the job what he is going to end up with is a total joke.

There is no way around it now. The whole White House is radioactive.

Anyone that takes any position from now on will also be a joker.

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unproven innocence  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:27:05pm

re: #130 Hecuba’s daughter

Didn’t the Citizen’s United decision make it impossible to have any effective campaign finance rules? It would require a Constitutional amendment or a new SC to override that decision.

Keith Olberman’s commentary on that Supreme Ct decision, from Jan 2010 was prescient.

Keith Olbermann on on “Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission”

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ObserverArt  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:31:08pm

re: #118 BlueSpotinAL

Possible Trump Chief of Staff (once Mulvaney is gone)?

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Video

And it was a Cleveland player’s fly ball that hit the head that popped up the homer!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:32:41pm

LOL

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:36:14pm

re: #133 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

My long dormant science fiction side has awakened to suggest that some actual, physical, organic disease may be responsible for these unprecedented outbursts of mass insanity, a virus that infects the brains of susceptible people and causes them to lose all capacity for reason and critical thinking while maintaining the outward appearance of socialization and consumer conformity.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:37:32pm

re: #133 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Weird-O-Rama!

Green Party Candidate Named as Fake ‘JFK Jr.’ Profiting From QAnon

I’ve repeatedly documented cases of the Acquired Stupidity Syndrome caused by the A.S.S. Virus!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:38:33pm

re: #134 ObserverArt

And since he is obviously pressured to choose a new Chief of Staff and no one really wants the job what he is going to end up with is a total joke.

There is no way around it now. The whole White House is radioactive.

Anyone that takes any position from now on will also be a joker.

A joker, you say?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:43:04pm

medieval doggo side-eye:

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:43:15pm

re: #130 Hecuba’s daughter

Didn’t the Citizen’s United decision make it impossible to have any effective campaign finance rules? It would require a Constitutional amendment or a new SC to override that decision.

There are some limits, but part of the problem is the rigged Election Commission isn’t enforcing what rules there are. It’s straight forward enough to enforce no foreign money.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:45:22pm

re: #106 KGxvi

something something deck chairs something something titanic something something

Officer: Sir, we’ve just hit an iceberg!

Trump: That’s fake news. I haven’t seen any icebergs. It’s not even that cold out here.

O: But sir, there’s ice everywhere, the ship just got hit! I’ll send an engineer down immediately to check it out!

T: That would be a colossal waste of time. Let me tell you about engineers. They like to talk but they don’t do much good. I’m much smarter than them and I’m telling you there is nothing to worry about. This ship is well built, it’s going to last.

Engineer: We’ve got flooding throughout the lower decks. We need to start evacuating the ship!

T: I’m not fooled by your Liberal bias. Many people say taking on extra water can actually be beneficial for a big ship like this because it helps it float better.

Officer and Engineer: WTF?

O: Captain, we need to get the people into the Lifeboats immediately!

T: Can’t you see I have everything under control? There was no iceberg, the ship is going to be fine. We’ll build a wall to keep the water out and make Britain pay for it!

Officer: That’s…really not an option at this point.

Ivanka: Daddy, our room is flooding, I think we better pack up and go.

T: Okay, if my daughter says it’s bad, then it’s bad. Prepare the lifeboats. Rich white guys first.

Officer: Not a problem, sir, I- wait, what?

T: What?

Officer: Did you say rich white men first?

T: Yes, of course.

Officer: Don’t you think it should be women and children?

T: No! What good are they to me? They won’t donate to my next campaign. Get the rich white guys in first and then if there’s room for them, grab the women and children.

Officer: Okay, what about the non-white people?

T: Leave them on the ship.

O: But sir, the ship is going to sink, they’ll all drown!

T: And?

O: We can’t just leave them!

T: Why not? They don’t matter. Most of ‘em are probably on this boat illegally anyway.”

O: Seriously?

T: (blank stare)

O: Fine, whatever. We need to start loading the lifeboats. You’ll stay on the ship like the captain is supposed to, right Mr. Trump? …. Mr. Trump??

(Officer looks over the deck railing to see Trump and family floating away in a lifeboat)

T:(looking back at officer) You got this! Make the North Atlantic GREAT AGAIN!!

O: Oh, for fuck sakes.

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gocart mozart  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:46:21pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:46:48pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:47:45pm
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DodgerFan1988  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:48:35pm

The “Pro-Life” Christian Conservatives are gloating over the death of a 7 year old “illegal,” all over the comment sections of Facebook and Twitter.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:51:18pm

re: #147 DodgerFan1988

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The “Pro-Life” Christian Conservatives are gloating over the death of a 7 year old “illegal,” all the comment sections of Facebook and Twitter.

Imagine if the Inn keeper scolded Mary and Joseph and told them to go back where they belong?

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Jay C  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:52:35pm

re: #130 Hecuba’s daughter

Didn’t the Citizen’s United decision make it impossible to have any effective campaign finance rules? It would require a Constitutional amendment or a new SC to override that decision.

I may be wrong about this*, but I seem to recall at the time Citizens United was decided, CJ Roberts (who, I think, wrote the decision) left some sort of “out” in the ruling that would allow for effective campaign-finance regulations, provided that they conformed to whatever restrictions the CU decision entailed.
Of course, this means that said reforms would have to get by Republicans in Congress, so we know how far that got….

*Insert permanent IANAL disclaimer

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:53:08pm

re: #147 DodgerFan1988

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The “Pro-Life” Christian Conservatives are gloating over the death of a 7 year old “illegal,” all over the comment sections of Facebook and Twitter.

Cute kid. Story breaks my heart.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 14, 2018 • 3:59:49pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

“And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones who is my disciple, truly I tell you, that person will certainly not lose their reward.” Matthew 10:42.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:04:37pm

re: #151 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

As we know, though, Jesus would never understand a child needing to flee their home country. //

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banditqueen  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:09:51pm

re: #145 gocart mozart

Or—is Mulvaney one of the Slim Shadys that’s just imitating?
Who is the real Slim Shady??

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:21:27pm
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:24:33pm
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KGxvi  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:24:44pm

re: #154 goddamnedfrank

They think that Cohen was a double agent?

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KGxvi  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:25:59pm

Hahaha, Tweety is doing the “they said if we voted for Hillary, there’d be unending criminal investigations…” followed by clips of Trump saying all that shit on the campaign trail

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:26:38pm

re: #154 goddamnedfrank

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They’re dumb enough to believe that JFK Jr is Q.

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gocart mozart  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:29:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:29:38pm

re: #154 goddamnedfrank

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OFFS that’s just sad. I don’t think Obama has ever been in the same room as Cohen let alone met him.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:30:10pm

re: #158 Joe Bacon 🌹

They’re dumb enough to believe that JFK Jr is Q.

Soon, one of them will up the ante and claim that JFK Sr is Q.

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bd(Redacted)  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:31:11pm

re: #160 HappyWarrior

OFFS that’s just sad. I don’t think Obama has ever been in the same room as Cohen let alone met him.

THEY WERE PLAYING IT VERY GOOD FOR A WHILE!!!!

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:37:09pm

this is perfect:

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:37:33pm

re: #160 HappyWarrior

OFFS that’s just sad. I don’t think Obama has ever been in the same room as Cohen let alone met him.

“On approximately June 16, 2015, Individual-1, for whom Cohen worked at the time, began an ultimately successful campaign for President of the United States.”

This.does.not.describe.Obama

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:38:05pm

re: #163 Barefoot Grin

this is perfect:

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Haha. It’s too bad Lowry’s NRO isn’t going out of business. I really hate that shit rag.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:38:34pm

re: #164 goddamnedfrank

“On approximately June 16, 2015, Individual-1, for whom Cohen worked at the time, began an ultimately successful campaign for President of the United States.”

This.does.not.describe.Obama

Man Trumpers are some stupid people goddamn.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:40:54pm

re: #166 HappyWarrior

Man Trumpers are some stupid people goddamn.

I’d say ‘motivated reasoning’, but honestly, there’s damn little reasoning going on here.

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:43:21pm

Seeing a lot of Right Wing comments on social media, justifying the 7 year old migrant’s death by bringing up Kate Steinle and Jamiel Shaw. For fuck’s sake, Jackeline Caal did not kill Steinle, Shaw, or anyone else! And no, she’s not a fucking criminal! These motherfuckers are the worst of humanity!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:43:59pm

re: #168 DodgerFan1988

Seeing a lot of Right Wing comments on social media, justifying the 7 year old migrant’s death by bringing up Kate Steinle and Jamiel Shaw. For fuck’s sake, Jackeline Caal did not kill Steinle, Shaw, or anyone else! And no, she’s not a fucking criminal! These motherfuckers are the worst of humanity!

She was applying for asylum. That’s not illegal.

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gocart mozart  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:45:19pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:47:59pm

My Dad think’s Ivanka would’ve been the best choice for CoS because “nobody would dare question her.” As if that’s A.) at all true, B.) equivalent to respect, or C.) the problem to begin with.

He’s a liberal and his heart’s in the right place but his analysis is often shallow and unrealistic.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:56:19pm

re: #171 goddamnedfrank

My Dad think’s Ivanka would’ve been the best choice for CoS because “nobody would dare question her.” As if that’s A.) at all true, B.) equivalent to respect, or C.) the problem to begin with.

He’s a liberal and his heart’s in the right place but his analysis is often shallow and unrealistic.

Andy Card, GWB’s CoS, said, “you have to have a CoS you can fire. That’s number one.” He was responding to the idea that Jared would be CoS.

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fern01  Dec 14, 2018 • 4:57:58pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

I think the most like situation is he gets impeached by the House but the GOP in the Senate doesn’t convict and 2020 is a very gold year for the Dems. He probably pardons a lot of people including himself on the way out but state prosecutors are waiting for him.

Can he pardon himself? More likely he resigns so brother Pence can pardon him.

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2018 • 5:00:57pm
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Jay C  Dec 14, 2018 • 5:01:02pm

re: #173 fern01

Can he pardon himself? More likely he resigns so brother Pence can pardon him.

Here’s a nice scenario: Trump waits til January 2021 to officially resign, and in the last (and only) 30 days of his Administration, President Pence somehow can’t find the time to sign the Presidential Pardon…..

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 14, 2018 • 5:01:14pm

re: #172 Barefoot Grin

Andy Card, GWB’s CoS, said, “you have to have a CoS you can fire. That’s number one.” He was responding to the idea that Jared would be CoS.

Bringing Ivanka and Jared in at all was a horrible idea. Beyond the rank nepotism and utter lack of qualifications I can’t think of one single good thing they’ve been involved in while they’ve reportedly backed most of the truly disastrous personnel and policy decisions.

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2018 • 5:02:14pm

re: #174 retired cynic

And I want one sooooooo bad!

Stonekettle said: We’re going to have to stage an intervention.

You guys grab him. I’ll hold the pie.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Dec 14, 2018 • 5:07:58pm

re: #177 retired cynic

And I want one sooooooo bad!

Stonekettle said: We’re going to have to stage an intervention.

You guys grab him. I’ll hold the pie.

Seriously, I use tortillas as a lefse-substitute all the time. Butter, sugar, cinnamon? jam? Ja, sure, you betcha!

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retired cynic  Dec 14, 2018 • 5:08:02pm

Seventy years ago on December 10, the UN adopted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

This was a child of Eleanor Roosevelt. If the US was a religion, she should be a saint.

hecatedemeter.wordpress.com

There’s a short video clip of Eleanor and Franklin, mixed with her efforts to get Marian Anderson to sing at the Lincoln Memorial.

Good stuff. Hopeful stuff for these horrid times.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2018 • 5:08:46pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 14, 2018 • 5:17:23pm

re: #175 Jay C

Here’s a nice scenario: Trump waits til January 2021 to officially resign, and in the last (and only) 30 days of his Administration, President Pence somehow can’t find the time to sign the Presidential Pardon…..

I think the only way Pence pardons him is if Trump resigns early enough for Pence to actually run in 2020. I also don’t think Trump would ever trust Pence enough to do that and doubt that Pence could win a primary under such circumstances. It’s just really hard to see any scenario where Trump is forced to resign without going into full scorched earth mode, lashing out and blaming everyone around him as insufficiently loyal. This might be the main reason now that the GOP continues to back him, they’re terrified that he might take them all down with him in revenge by directing his base to form a third party.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2018 • 5:23:00pm

That feeling when you’re changing the magenta ink cartridge in your printer and you somehow get some ink on your finger and then touch your face without looking at it and then you look in a mirror and have a moment of panic when it looks like you have a big patch of ruptured blood vessels on your temple.

Changing ink is already stressful and expensive enough without surprises.

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gocart mozart  Dec 14, 2018 • 5:25:29pm
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austin_blue  Dec 14, 2018 • 5:26:20pm

re: #171 goddamnedfrank

My Dad think’s Ivanka would’ve been the best choice for CoS because “nobody would dare question her.” As if that’s A.) at all true, B.) equivalent to respect, or C.) the problem to begin with.

He’s a liberal and his heart’s in the right place but his analysis is often shallow and unrealistic.

Well, I was just going to ask about that…

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bratwurst  Dec 14, 2018 • 5:27:42pm

Happy Friday, folks!

Been fairly successful in reducing online time recently. This is something I can highly recommend, but it does result in a bit of confusion here and there.

Do I understand correctly that some decent people are upset about the demise of The Weekly Standard? Really?

Because they are anti-Trump? Uh, didn’t they play their own role in nurturing the kind of dumbassery in the GOP base that Trump harnessed?

Because their staff is being poorly treated on the way out the door? Uh, I am not going to go through their entire body of work, but I feel like I’m not going too far out on a limb to suggest there may not be a great history of sympathy for the plight of laid off writers in the pages of The Weekly Standard.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 14, 2018 • 5:32:02pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 14, 2018 • 5:35:54pm

Fucking great.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2018 • 5:44:43pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 14, 2018 • 5:59:07pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:08:03pm

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gocart mozart  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:10:10pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:13:09pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:13:51pm
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Single-handed sailor  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:16:05pm

snert

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:18:25pm

Researchers Discover Cure For Man Bun

In what’s being called a miraculous breakthrough, researchers at the University of Washington announced Monday a promising new treatment for the unfortunate male hairstyle known as a “man bun.”

The cure is reportedly comprised an inexpensive operation using a pair of shears, coupled with a psychiatric follow-up administered by a medical professional designed to help the victim come to the conclusion that they need to make better decisions about their life.

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:21:57pm

re: #187 goddamnedfrank

Orange shitbag is gloating already.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:23:30pm

re: #196 teleskiguy

“Great news for America!”

Sure, millions of people will no longer have health insurance and get sick and die but the rich white guys will have more money in their pockets.

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uriel  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:26:06pm

Man looks like the knives are out:

MP4 Video

(If you’re impatient, go to about half way.)

If you’re Devin Nunes, and this is the response you get from Neil Cavuto on Fox F’ng News,-

Well, shit just got real.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:26:40pm

And of course the Obamacare news comes down late on a Friday night when no one is fucking paying attention.

Looks like the ACA might die before it reaches its 10th birthday.

And unfortunately, a Democratic House can’t do shit about it.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:27:02pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:28:53pm

Nice Oscar Wilde reference.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:34:25pm
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Very Cool Very Legal Ghost Flea  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:35:08pm

Saudi Arabia Declares War on America’s Muslim Congresswomen

Closing paragraph:

It should be little surprise that America’s authoritarian allies have responded with panic and fear to voices like Tlaib and Omar. These regimes have always benefited from the false choice they present to policymakers in the West—in Muslim countries, they say, extremists are the only alternative to dictators. That argument is eloquently undermined by American politicians who share those regimes’ religion, but not their cynicism about democracy.

The more I read about this region, the more I feel the above can’t be emphasized enough: very powerful people have a stake in a flattened, oversimplified discussion of religion and politics in the Middle East…first and foremost the monarchs and nigh-unto-monarchs that rule the region. A great deal of what’s done supposedly in the name of orthodoxy has to do with money and regional influence. Hence the occasional bloom of farther-right politics manifesting as jihadists being allowed, and the policy objectives of those groups sometimes being incorporated into the normal political discourse…but never any tolerance for movements to open society of enfranchise people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:38:53pm

nice story:

Nebraska Wireman Wraps Up an 89-Year Career

Every year, the IBEW hands out hundreds — yes, hundreds — of 70-year pins to men and women marking seven decades as members of the Brotherhood.

But how many arrive before the recipient retires?

There is now at least one.

After 89 years doing electrical work — the first couple OSHA would have had a word or two about if it existed at the time — Lincoln, Neb., Local 265 member Norm “Pinky” Stentz is out of work.

“I’m an old buzzard,” he said.

Stentz, 95, is a second-generation member of Local 265. His father, Howard, was president of the local 60-odd years ago. He got into the business in 1929, when Stentz was only 6 years old, and times being what they were, it wasn’t long until he was helping his father out on jobs.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:39:31pm

re: #196 teleskiguy

Orange shitbag is gloating already.

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I can’t wait for Kentucky elections if this is upheld.

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:39:40pm

I went skiing today. Once again it was as good or better than any day last winter. Skied through lots of light fluffy powder!

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:41:49pm

re: #200 Charles Johnson

This wasn’t a respected judge. It was a district court judge whose extremist position is unsupported by precedent - namely the US Supreme Court, which did find that you could sever the individual mandate from other provisions. It also ignores statutory construction that would hold that if one provision was held invalid, that it would not invalidate all of the provisions.

It once again highlights that judicial activists on the right are a danger to all Americans - as if this position was sustained, nearly 50 million people would lose coverage as it would invalidate all of the ACA, not just the individual mandate. It would invalidate Medicaid Expansion, preexisting conditions, etc. All of it.

Trump gloating shows he’s more than willing to destroy health coverage for all Americans to claim victory over Obama. And yeah, it’s all Americans, because everyone knows someone with a preexisting condition, and the GOP wont even try to save that provision. They couldn’t do that when they were trying for the Obamacare repeal efforts endlessly, and they’re not about to start now.

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:43:36pm

Hey lawhawk, have I told you I love you lately?

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wrenchwench  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:43:38pm

Thread, with beautiful photos of nothing, mostly:

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:44:58pm

re: #208 teleskiguy

Hey lawhawk, have I told you I love you lately?

The Mrs. might get jealous (about as jealous as I get when I see your skiing photos even though I haven’t gone skiing in nearly 30 years).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:46:48pm

sure thing, you moron

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:48:01pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:48:37pm

re: #205 Belafon

I can’t wait for Kentucky elections if this is upheld.

Doesn’t matter. All Bevin has to do is say “Jesus, Jesus, Jesus” and he will be re-elected in a landslide.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:48:42pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

sure thing, you moron

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Yeah, many RUSSIAN people.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:49:27pm

re: #196 teleskiguy

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:50:19pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:50:34pm

re: #215 Belafon

LOL.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:51:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:52:22pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:52:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:53:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:54:23pm

re: #220 Charles Johnson

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:54:45pm

re: #216 Joe Bacon 🌹

He’s the interim CoS. He’s already got an expiration date. Everyone knows it, least of all Trump.

Trump just gave everyone a heads up to treat him like a speedbump - they’l go over and around him at will.

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:55:20pm

re: #210 lawhawk

The Mrs. might get jealous (about as jealous as I get when I see your skiing photos even though I haven’t gone skiing in nearly 30 years).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:55:37pm

I wonder how many Scaramuccis Mulvaney will last?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:56:25pm

Also: Let’s say SCOTUS upholds the ruling and kills Obamacare. Will this help or hurt Republicans in 2020?

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:58:16pm

re: #224 teleskiguy

Dr4e/jjghQu/k6VTAql2696QyjLQXJXPzKvcpap2ohqxAmhap4g5wFlgovBk31BAKqTjd5ZyWdhBZcfVV7PCL0qLOfQ7sGzfhz1rZvwqhdoNXfWNLFLK3tKkXNjedqvnSJ/7lFX+LY+CQ5O2iv7HWja6rAXwtIOipR1/alVR6jYpiK60xoNVYcJtgjjDwlw9r9Ao4Qj/hPSECEXhyE96PQbSxXyOvUW69l5A2chND+6KToVGV5c4w9qTg+V9Zt8q2kLjxYIrNpu+7PaK8G/m7RVx7wqBPn+S2Rr2tIoDLQs=

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 14, 2018 • 6:59:56pm

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

Also: Let’s say SCOTUS upholds the ruling and kills Obamacare. Will this help or hurt Republicans in 2020?

Right now the Republican base is having a massive orgasm.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:00:34pm
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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:00:55pm

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

Also: Let’s say SCOTUS upholds the ruling and kills Obamacare. Will this help or hurt Republicans in 2020?

There are a lot of people who like the pre-existing condition requirements and the exchanged. A number of them were covered in the run-up to the election, specifically in KY, where, even though they voted for Trump they wanted to keep their insurance. They’re the ones who will really be affected.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:00:59pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:02:38pm

re: #227 lawhawk

KkP8QAN+vMlwqOBsVaZHiej85mOPo+uz6gKT9zknnxwMiaBiSYhHSC7hrIAasn2umJlVMWMIvLF112MbnKBttNTnWSgJkUp1Y6gn04VJytBQCP7JrtTjs5HwreZsbj/tVg+0adnvIdtRlmPfcXM5e6bNIt+spltr9vxex/eM19grIOjY+5QmNIz06dhcGkWFrWDMOTfM7kQ=

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:03:00pm

re: #231 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Charles, it’s sociopathy in the name of Jesus.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:06:14pm

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m kind of stumped how one federal district judge gets to rule the whole ACA unconstitutional three years after the mutherfocking SCOTUS ruled it constitutional, twice.

But I guess the war against people having healthcare and being protected from pre-existing condition exclusions must continue until morale improves.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:06:57pm

re: #223 lawhawk

He’s the interim CoS. He’s already got an expiration date. Everyone knows it, least of all Trump.

Trump just gave everyone a heads up to treat him like a speedbump - they’l go over and around him at will.

He already has two other jobs. Such a very serious administration this is. /

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:07:13pm

re: #234 Sir John Barron

I’m kind of stumped how one federal district judge gets to rule the whole ACA unconstitutional three years after the mutherfocking SCOTUS ruled it constitutional, twice.

But I guess the war against people having healthcare and being protected from pre-existing condition exclusions must continue until morale improves.

Gosh, I thought KKKonservatives OPPOSED activist judges…

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Sir John Barron  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:09:20pm

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wrong. Fake news again. I always wanted an acting CoS. This way people have to try out for the job. The best presidents are the ones who replace their CoS a few times every year.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:11:25pm

re: #236 Joe Bacon 🌹

Gosh, I thought KKKonservatives OPPOSED activist judges…

You’re not an activist judge if you uphold the white majority.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:12:10pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

I’d ask what KAG and WW1WWGA or whatever are supposed to mean, but nah, don’t think I want to know.

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teleskiguy  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:12:17pm
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Mattand  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:13:35pm

re: #234 Sir John Barron

I’m kind of stumped how one federal district judge gets to rule the whole ACA unconstitutional three years after the mutherfocking SCOTUS ruled it constitutional, twice.

But I guess the war against people having healthcare and being protected from pre-existing condition exclusions must continue until morale improves.

I had the exact same thought. Guess ol’ Brett’s gonna get a chance to prove what a good soldier he is sooner than I thought.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:14:39pm

re: #241 Mattand

I had the exact same thought. Guess ol’ Brett’s gonna get a chance to prove what a good soldier he is sooner than I thought.

Though Kennedy wasn’t the decider.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:14:55pm

re: #241 Mattand

I had the exact same thought. Guess ol’ Brett’s gonna get a chance to prove what a good soldier he is sooner than I thought.

Oh and I’m sure this time Chief Justice Jackass John will fall in line and kill the whole thing.

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Targetpractice  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:15:37pm

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

Also: Let’s say SCOTUS upholds the ruling and kills Obamacare. Will this help or hurt Republicans in 2020?

Help them with their base, hurt them with virtually everybody else. The ones who will find this the hardest to square with their world view will be all the wingnuts who think the ACA and Obamacare are two separate laws.

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lawhawk  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:16:31pm

re: #241 Mattand

They’re not going to be satisfied until they dismember it.

Same with Roe.

They’re precedent, but it’s not stopping the right wing activist judges from trying to gut the law, roll back the provisions using the shakiest of legal reasoning, and they’re doing it despite their prior positions of how the rule of law and precedent are sacrosanct.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:17:01pm

re: #198 uriel

Man looks like the knives are out:

[Embedded content]

(If you’re impatient, go to about half way.)

If you’re Devin Nunes, and this is the response you get from Neil Cavuto on Fox F’ng News,-

Well, shit just got real.

Sweet fancy moses

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Charles Johnson  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:17:44pm
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Mattand  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:18:00pm

re: #230 Belafon

There are a lot of people who like the pre-existing condition requirements and the exchanged. A number of them were covered in the run-up to the election, specifically in KY, where, even though they voted for Trump they wanted to keep their insurance. They’re the ones who will really be affected.

Backwoods Sleuth is the Kentucky expert, but my take was that KY basically voted to strip themselves of healthcare by electing Matt Bevins, who ran on a platform of destroying KYnect. Do I have this wrong?

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:20:25pm

re: #248 Mattand

Backwoods Sleuth is the Kentucky expert, but my take was that KY basically voted to strip themselves of healthcare by electing Matt Bevins, who ran on a platform of destroying KYnect. Do I have this wrong?

You are correct, but, without KYnect, the residents still have access to the federal exchanges. This ruling would remove those.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:21:40pm

There are still a whole lot of people who think that, while Republicans will hurt the others, they won’t hurt them. They’re about to really find out how inaccurate that is.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:22:12pm

re: #234 Sir John Barron

I’m kind of stumped how one federal district judge gets to rule the whole ACA unconstitutional three years after the mutherfocking SCOTUS ruled it constitutional, twice.

But I guess the war against people having healthcare and being protected from pre-existing condition exclusions must continue until morale improves.

Who will defend the existence of the ACA before SCOTUS? The current administration will probably file a friend of the court supporting this disgraceful decision. This is a potential nightmare.

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Mattand  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:23:05pm

re: #250 Belafon

There are still a whole lot of people who think that, while Republicans will hurt the others, they won’t hurt them. They’re about to really find out how inaccurate that is.

Whoever came up with that Face-Eating Leopards Party analogy was a frigging a genius.

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Targetpractice  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:23:37pm

re: #248 Mattand

Backwoods Sleuth is the Kentucky expert, but my take was that KY basically voted to strip themselves of healthcare by electing Matt Bevins, who ran on a platform of destroying KYnect. Do I have this wrong?

Yes and no. They voted for Bevin for the same reason they voted for a lot Repubs who ran against Obamacare: They were under the impression that Kynect was something different and distinct from Obamacare, as well as convinced when he told them that he’d come up with something “better” that fit their individual needs while costing less and providing better coverage.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:25:32pm

re: #251 Hecuba’s daughter

Who will defend the existence of the ACA before SCOTUS? The current administration will probably file a friend of the court supporting this disgraceful decision. This is a potential nightmare.

Mainly the other states, like CA and NY.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:27:16pm

re: #250 Belafon

There are still a whole lot of people who think that, while Republicans will hurt the others, they won’t hurt them. They’re about to really find out how inaccurate that is.

“OK, yeah I guess I lost my healthcare plan and now I don’t qualify for treatment. But I don’t really blame our great MAGA president, it’s really Obama’s fault. And Hillary’s.”

/

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Sir John Barron  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:28:47pm

I can’t wait for when the GOP gets a federal judge somewhere to declare Social Security and Medicare unconstitutional.

//

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Skip Intro  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:29:19pm

re: #256 Sir John Barron

It’s coming.

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plansbandc  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:31:53pm

Whammo!!

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:31:54pm

re: #257 Skip Intro

It’s coming.

That same judge ruled a 250 year policy covering Native American children unconstitutional. He seems pretty high on the list of people that need to be removed from office.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:33:39pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

There really are two different Americas right now: The bug fuck insane, racist, homophobic Trump supporters and enablers.

And the rest of us who are just trying to survive this shit and run as much damage control as we can.

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jaunte  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:34:14pm
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Mattand  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:34:18pm

re: #253 Targetpractice

Yes and no. They voted for Bevin for the same reason they voted for a lot Repubs who ran against Obamacare: They were under the impression that Kynect was something different and distinct from Obamacare, as well as convinced when he told them that he’d come up with something “better” that fit their individual needs while costing less and providing better coverage.

Heh, I’m guessing the bolded part never came to pass.

This whole “vote against your own self interest” thing got me to thinking the idiot soybean farmers again: “The guy we support has destroyed our livelihood, but he says it’s our patriotic duty, so who are we to question him?”

Idiots.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:41:27pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:41:31pm

re: #262 Mattand

Heh, I’m guessing the bolded part never came to pass.

This whole “vote against your own self interest” thing got me to thinking the idiot soybean farmers again: “The guy we support has destroyed our livelihood, but he says it’s our patriotic duty, so who are we to question him?”

Idiots.

You are so right. My RW brother is well educated but he worships Trump and believes that it’s Obama, Hillary, and Mueller who are the criminals. You cannot reason with these people.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:47:48pm

Make sure you check the results:

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Skip Intro  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:47:59pm

re: #263 Belafon

This will further undermine faith in the survival of the ACA, which is the point. Undermining faith in our laws and institutions is Job 1 in the Trump regime.

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Belafon  Dec 14, 2018 • 7:51:51pm
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plansbandc  Dec 14, 2018 • 8:01:17pm

Really angry about the revelation about Johnson & Johnson. Jesus H. Asbestos in baby powder. And how many mothers over a hundred years or so used baby powder.

This is a huge cause of cancer. Of all cancer. We didn’t stand a fucking chance.

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Skip Intro  Dec 14, 2018 • 8:04:51pm

re: #268 plansbandc

It’s like we’re back in the 19th century again.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 14, 2018 • 8:05:34pm

re: #262 Mattand

Heh, I’m guessing the bolded part never came to pass.

This whole “vote against your own self interest” thing got me to thinking the idiot soybean farmers again: “The guy we support has destroyed our livelihood, but he says it’s our patriotic duty, so who are we to question him?”

Idiots.

And the Soybean farmers STILL voted Republican.

Just like the white folks on Kynect voted for Bevin and STILL support him after he killed Kynect.

They are willing to cut off their noses to spite their faces because their inherent racism TRUMPS everything else!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 14, 2018 • 8:06:48pm

re: #265 Belafon

Make sure you check the results:

[Embedded content]

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garzooma  Dec 14, 2018 • 8:13:05pm

re: #252 Mattand

Whoever came up with that Face-Eating Leopards Party analogy was a frigging a genius.

Saw this from last month about the response of Trump voters in California who lost their houses:

The fire zone in Northern California is to some extent Trump country. He beat Hillary Clinton by 4 percentage points in Butte County in 2016. That enthusiasm was on display as dozens of people cheered and waved flags as his motorcade went by.

[…]

Missere-Crowder, 61, and her husband had fled their home in Magalia, a community near Paradise that also was devastated, and now planned to go to a shelter in Yuba City, about an hour’s drive from the Walmart.

She said she was angry about Trump’s tweet last week blaming forest mismanagement for the Nov. 8 fire, a sentiment he evoked in his visit and has stirred resentment among survivors.

“Like we’ve done it on purpose. It’s like a slap in the face,” Missere-Crowder said.

Still, she said that if she met him, she would say, “Think about what you’re saying, because it takes away from all the good stuff you’re doing.”

Where “good stuff” means “slapping other people in the face”.

“I never thought they would slap me in the face” sobs woman who voted for the “Slap People in the Face” Party.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 14, 2018 • 8:16:10pm

re: #272 garzooma

That ass who lost her home thinks that the good stuff Trump does is kicking colored people down.


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