Amazing New Video From Half*alive - BREAKFAST (Official Video)

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BREAKFAST
concept and choreography by JA_Collective
director : Elliott Sellers
lead actor : Jordan Johnson
supporting actor : Aidan Carberry
ensemble: Adam Agostino, Vinny Balbo, Trevor Daw, Ruger Memmott, Finn Murphy, and Rae Srivastava
producer : Judy Craig
production company : Bear Punch Productions
executive producer : Mark Golembeski
production coord : Richard Theisen
1st AD : Kenny Taylor
cinematographer : Blaine Dunkley
additional photography : Elliott Sellers

1st AC : Sara Garth
movi operator : Kurt Wallrath
gaffer : Stefan Colson
best electric : Sam Wilkerson
key grip : Gabriel Carnick
best grip : Corey Brown
production designer : Aurelie Taillefer
set dresser : Benjamin Voutour
set PAs : Caroline Stella and Alia Becker
editor : Elliott Sellers
VFX : Tom Coben
colorist : Houmam at Velem LA

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lyrics:
i lay on the carpet
a wrench to let you in
carbonating emotion
tears rising to the rim

i fled to the walls, yeah
be sure I’m surrounded
where no one can find me

but there’s strength behind a lowered gate
a humble embrace
a vulnerable place

say you’re open through tears and trembling
it’s a major step
it’s ok to fret

here’s safe place to lay your heart down
it’s a second chance
it won’t be your last

letting my guard down
enough to be held close
there’s strength in the open
the broken and exposed

should i flee to the mountains
be sure i’m surrounded
where no one can find me
there’s strength within an open space
a humble embrace
a venerable place

say you’re open through tears and trembling
it’s a major step
it’s ok to fret

here’s safe place to lay your heart down
it’s a second chance
it won’t be your last

#halfalive #BREAKFAST #NowNotYet

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459 comments

1
Dread Pirate  Oct 16, 2019 • 9:34:21pm
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makeitstop  Oct 16, 2019 • 9:50:59pm

Well, the bomb cyclone has arrived. Woke me out of a sound sleep, sounding like a train rolling down my street. I have no real way of knowing, but these winds sound every bit as powerful as the ones that came with Hurricane Sandy.

I get the feeling I’m not going to get much sleep tonight.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 16, 2019 • 10:20:19pm

Speaking of weather, there is a tropical depression trying to form in the Bay of Campeche:

The major models have this developing a bit more and moving into the GoM states on the 19th, but not at hurricane strength.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 16, 2019 • 10:21:58pm

The Nautilus crew got excited at a recent discovery:

Whale Fall Actively Devoured by Scavengers at Davidson Seamount | Nautilus Live

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 16, 2019 • 10:59:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 16, 2019 • 11:22:59pm
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Dread Pirate  Oct 16, 2019 • 11:29:52pm
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 16, 2019 • 11:43:27pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like the DUP reactionaries are holding things up. Not a surprise, really - this is the same bunch that initially rejected the Good Friday Agreement, so their attitude is par for the course.

The DUP are hopelessly ass-backwards regressives.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 16, 2019 • 11:49:20pm
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CarolJ  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:38:58am

Only nine comments in two hours? Everybody asleep around here? I’m surprised: given Trump lately, I would assume insomnia was now an epidemic. But here’s a good place for my Go Fund Me anyway:
Go Fund Me

This is the first October where I haven’t even thought about Halloween. I retired almost 2 years ago and enjoyed the festivities at work. And even when I was in layoff, I would at least think about putting out a bowl of candy for my fellow condo dwellers. But maybe its another symptom of trump.
Who can play scary when the rest of the world is scary?

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:49:40am

re: #10 CarolJ

Only nine comments in two hours? Everybody asleep around here? I’m surprised: given Trump lately, I would assume insomnia was now an epidemic. But here’s a good place for my Go Fund Me anyway:
Go Fund Me

This is the first October where I haven’t even thought about Halloween. I retired almost 2 years ago and enjoyed the festivities at work. And even when I was in layoff, I would at least think about putting out a bowl of candy for my fellow condo dwellers. But maybe its another symptom of trump.
Who can play scary when the rest of the world is scary?

I just got home, and am now going to bed, but… your link isn’t working — wants me to sign in to see it.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:51:46am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:57:49am

Checked out Twitter tonight… and see Stardom is trending in the US which is weird because it’s a specialty Japanese Joshi (female) wrestling company:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:30:53am

Your overnight sacred music dump… as critical as I am of religious organizations, and the Eastern and Russian Orthodox churches are high on my list of badness enablers, nevertheless when great composers turned their talents to writing music for their religion many great compositions ensued:

Rachmaninoff - Vespers

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Decatur Deb  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:32:01am

It’s 0330 in Alabama Retro Time, and I’m falling back into pre-trip sleep patterns. As I catch up after a month of spotty wifi, I see changes. WrenchWench went silent then seems to have moved, and AM is MIA.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:33:55am

re: #14 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Headset on.

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CarolJ  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:35:37am

re: #10 CarolJ

Here’s a better link.
Go Fund Me. The bottom line is that I’m going to be without 2 Social Security Checks-the current one and the next. Explanations at the link.
I hate asking for money, but I’m retired now, and even though I’m going to get some answers, its going to be a few days running. And a month to straighten things out.

It’s something I’ve noticed with Twitter. Asian Twitter tends to trend during the night when things are slower here-a reminder that things are 12 hours later/earlier there. Lots of K-Pop stars who trend during this time of night (for us)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:37:04am

re: #14 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Your overnight sacred music dump… as critical as I am of religious organizations, and the Eastern and Russian Orthodox churches are high on my list of badness enablers, nevertheless when great composers turned their talents to writing music for their religion many great compositions ensued:

I was raised Byzantine Rite Catholic and still dig that choir music.

And yes, theocracy is one of the pillars of Putin’s power in Russia, another thing that makes him admired by the American Right. They would just replace Russian Orthodoxy with Fundamentalist Protestantism.

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CarolJ  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:42:22am

The thing about theocracy is that the people speaking for God are really speaking for themselves and saying it’s God. While I do believe in an ultimate loving intelligence, I like to think that I’m not so arrogant to think that I speak for it-can barely speak to it. And in any case, if it isn’t real for you, then there’s no point in making you see what I see. And basing a political system on it is truly madness.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:46:37am

re: #19 CarolJ

The thing about theocracy is that the people speaking for God are really speaking for themselves and saying it’s God. While I do believe in an ultimate loving intelligence, I like to think that I’m not so arrogant to think that I speak for it-can barely speak to it. And in any case, if it isn’t real for you, then there’s no point in making you see what I see. And basing a political system on it is truly madness.

This is why I thank God for giving Founding Fathers the Divine Foresight to separate Church and State (of course I mean that ironically, to those Deists, Europe’s religious-based wars of the 16-17th century were recent history.)

Religion can serve as a basis for a personal moral and ethical code, and of course these can be reflected in the legislation that people enact. But holy scriptures and their varied and often conflicting interpretations make a lousy basis for any system of government.

Now let’s talk about Biblical marriage…

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2019 • 2:12:48am

Elijah Cummings died Tonite. Just hit the Phone.

This is horrible!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 17, 2019 • 2:16:03am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2019 • 2:24:56am

Sorry, I didn’t link.

I’m in shock. I knew he was ill, but not this.

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Ming5000  Oct 17, 2019 • 2:27:25am

Oh No!
He will be missed

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 17, 2019 • 2:47:51am

Courtesy of Wired, who put this out yesterday, your nightly physics lesson:

Physicist Explains One Concept in 5 Levels of Difficulty | WIRED

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 17, 2019 • 3:08:56am

re: #22 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Rep. Elijah Cummings has died

I’m sure our nation’s leader will have a compassionate, thoughtful reaction to this news.

(By which I mean Obama. The other guy will just make the usual ass of himself, obvs.)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 3:10:27am

re: #21 Dave In Austin

Elijah Cummings died Tonite. Just hit the Phone.

This is horrible!

Terrible loss for people who believe in democracy and transparency everywhere.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 3:11:38am

re: #26 i(m)p(each)sos

I’m sure our nation’s leader will have a compassionate, thoughtful reaction to this news.

(By which I mean Obama. The other guy will just make the usual ass of himself, obvs.)

Oh God I don’t wanna know what he will say. I know Obama and even W Bush will be thoughtful and compassionate.

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CarolJ  Oct 17, 2019 • 3:15:19am

I’m wondering if Trump has reached the point where he can’t say anything good or even coherent. Rest in peace, Rep. Cummings. We will take the baton from here. Too much to hope I guess to expect Orange Cheeto not to say something.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 3:17:08am

re: #29 CarolJ

I’m wondering if Trump has reached the point where he can’t say anything good or even coherent. Rest in peace, Rep. Cummings. We will take the baton from here. Too much to hope I guess to expect Orange Cheeto not to say something.

We’ve seen how long he’s held on to his grudge with McCain. I’m not expecting gracefulness here by words or silence.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 17, 2019 • 3:25:47am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2019 • 3:32:52am

This whole crew on MJ this. Morning are crushed. The Late Congressman married Joe and Mika. Michael Steel…. I’m not sure how he’s holding it up.

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Scout  Oct 17, 2019 • 3:37:14am

Rep. Elijah Cummings was a giant.

A giant.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 3:39:31am

re: #33 Scout

Rep. Elijah Cummings was a giant.

A giant.

In so many ways. He really was one of the good guys.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 17, 2019 • 3:43:16am

re: #34 HappyWarrior

In so many ways. He really was one of the good guys.

Yes he was. He’ll certainly be missed.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 17, 2019 • 3:45:54am

I am devastated for everyone we’re losing along the way who’ll never get to see how this all ends. If anyone deserved to watch the asshole get frog-marched out of the Oval in disgrace, it was Cummings.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:01:31am

re: #36 i(m)p(each)sos

I am devastated for everyone we’re losing along the way who’ll never get to see how this all ends. If anyone deserved to watch the asshole get frog-marched out of the Oval in disgrace, it was Cummings.

I was thinking the same. People like OA, CL, Sionainn here on LGF and in my personal life too like my Aunt and others.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:08:36am

re: #35 Dr Lizardo

Yes he was. He’ll certainly be missed.

It says so much about the Republican Party that Jordan is Cummings’ counterpart on the committee Cummings chaired. That member list is proof that Boehner, Ryan, & McCarthy didn’t and don’t care about governing.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:11:41am

This should come as a surprise to absolutely no one:

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan put US President Donald Trump’s letter “in the bin”, the BBC has been told.

In the letter dated 9 October, and sent after US troops were pulled out of Syria, Mr Trump told Mr Erdogan: “Don’t be a tough guy. Don’t be a fool!”

Turkish presidential sources told BBC Turkish that the letter was “thoroughly rejected” by Mr Erdogan.

bbc.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:15:14am

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

This should come as a surprise to absolutely no one:

bbc.com

Before or after laughing at Trump. CNN was talking about how Trump and Erodgan had gotten on well at first since both admired parts about the other and their son in laws were friends. All this while we have both Trump himself and his kids trashing Hunter Biden. Trump and Jared haven’t met autocrats they haven’t wanted to work with.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:22:46am

This is what everybody else is up against:

The Week: Pastor at Pro-Trump conference: ‘We’ve come to declare war’

If the video depicting a fake President Trump massacring members of the media — which was condemned by the White House — wasn’t too much to handle already, ProPublica and WNYC released more disturbing audio from the conference where the footage was originally shown.

While speaking at the pro-Trump conference in Miami, Florida, at the Trump National Doral Miami, Mark Burns, a pastor, told the crowd multiple times that “we’ve come to declare war.” As he continued, he reportedly asked if anybody was “read to go to war for Donald J. Trump, this nation?” as the audience reportedly cheered him on.

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fern01  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:23:42am

Who is the idiot on Morning Joe with nose in air saying trump doesn’t have to worry about impeachment. How can anyone pay him for this drivel?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:24:20am

Off to work. Back later.

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b.d. (It's All True)  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:35:05am

RIP Congressman Cummings

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:35:06am

re: #41 Eric The Fruit Bat

This is what everybody else is up against:

The Week: Pastor at Pro-Trump conference: ‘We’ve come to declare war’

Tax these theofascists.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:44:10am

re: #42 fern01

Noah Rothman. Pay it no mind.

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fern01  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:47:15am

Thanks - that they pay him to sprout trump propaganda & lies is just disgusting.

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fern01  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:50:13am

And Senator Murphy talks rings around Sen Schumer - the latter so needs to lift his game.

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:55:50am

re: #12 DodgerFan1988

Quite simple for our White Supremacist Christians to ignore Kurdish suffering. After all, Kurds are commies and not the “right sort” of white anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:03:05am

re: #49 Florida Panhandler

Quite simple for our White Supremacist Christians to ignore Kurdish suffering. After all, Kurds are commies and not the “right sort” of white anyway.

Not ignore. They’re celebrating it. Trump said the Kurds were bad. Therefore they are. Trump has in a week gone from saying “we like the Kurds” to declaring them worse than ISIS. Why should anyone vulnerable in the future will trust us.

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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:23:23am

Likely to the surprise of no one here, it seems that Facebook is literally run by Republicans, for Republicans.

Read the rest of the thread as well as the pieces attached. It looks like Zuck may just be a coward, but the rest of Facebook’s leadership truly are fellow travelers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:23:51am

re: #42 fern01

Who is the idiot on Morning Joe with nose in air saying trump doesn’t have to worry about impeachment. How can anyone pay him for this drivel?

He does not have to worry about being convicted by the Senate.

But the proceedings will bring an awful lot to light. Hopefully his tax returns…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:24:00am

I wake up to see Mr. Cummings has crossed the rainbow bridge.

And I know that morally bankrupt Gym Jordan is so happy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:30:06am

re: #51 Citizen K

Likely to the surprise of no one here, it seems that Facebook is literally run by Republicans, for Republicans.

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Read the rest of the thread as well as the pieces attached. It looks like Zuck may just be a coward, but the rest of Facebook’s leadership truly are fellow travelers.

And even with all this, conservatives still cry Facebook is biased against them.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:34:11am

You know if Republicans were half as tough as they think they are, they could stand up to Trump but nah easier to be feckless wankers with no integrity, decency, or courage.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:35:42am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

You know if Republicans were half as tough as they think they are, they could stand up to Trump but nah easier to be feckless wankers with no integrity, decency, or courage.

Standing up to Trump would alienate their most reliable core of support.

The one that failed to turn out in sufficient numbers to elect Romney in 2012.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:35:46am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:36:47am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Standing up to Trump would alienate their most reliable core of support.

The one that failed to turn out in sufficient numbers to elect Romney in 2012.

So the fuck what. Trump is a danger that goes beyond partisan politics. Fuck their base.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:37:31am

re: #57 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

Fucking QAnon.

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b.d. (It's All True)  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:39:37am

re: #57 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

I’m surprised that they aren’t saying that he was executed by a government tribunal.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:40:06am

Oh and Trump Derangement Syndrome? Really. The right blew gaskets over Obama fist bumping his wife, his wife growing a garden, Obama wearing a gray suit, his burger choices. They were deranged against Obama from the start. Hell yes I hate Trump. Any self respecting American should.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:40:46am

Meanwhile let’s check in with the Pulpit Pimps who proclaim Trump to be our king…

Trump “pro-life” evangelicals are now fiercely defending the murder of actual babies

dailykos.com

This is horrifying and disturbing. Yet the exact same people who claim to be “pro-life” and scream about the termination of a damn clump of cells are now justifying and excusing the murder of actual babies. This goes well beyond their glorification of assault rifles, or laughing at a stupid Trump video depicting a congregation getting butchered. This is downright depravity.

Ralph Reed recently went on a tear about how horrible abortion is, while in the same breath saying that evangelical Christians must obey Trump. He supports the Syrian slaughter because he literally argued that Trump was equal to God. His book was even entitled “Render to God and Trump”.

Paula White said opposing Trump was opposing God.

Robert Jeffress announced that he will submit and defer to Trump on his decision to allow the killing of the Kurds. He admitted what we already know: not one evangelical will change their vote over this.

Sure enough, at the so-called “Values Voter Summit”, which occurred after the Trump-approved genocide, all of the pastors prayed for Trump and commanded obedience to their Golden Calf.

And, as expected, reporters couldn’t find one right-wing evangelical willing to condemn him over this.

For the record, Trump has actually agreed with the evangelical claim that he was the “second coming of God”, and the “King of Israel”. In reality, he is dangerous sociopath who cages toddlers and now, allows them to be killed for his own nefarious purposes. That isn’t God-like at all. Rather, it is the personification of evil.

But these Christians rejoice when the Kurds are being slaughtered just like those same Christians turned their backs on the Jews and others when Hitler came to power in Germany.

Oh, I forgot…Candy ASS Owens saw nothing wrong with Hitler killing Jews as long as he only did it in Germany.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:40:50am

re: #60 b.d. (Lock Them Up!)

I’m surprised that they aren’t saying that he was executed by a government tribunal.

Give Alex Jones time. He’ll claim Cummings had the truth about HRC or the witch hunt and Pelosi killed him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:43:33am

re: #58 HappyWarrior

So the fuck what. Trump is a danger that goes beyond partisan politics. Fuck their base.

This base was the linchpin of their strategy to win in 2016: they could count on that hard core of 30% to get out and vote, all they had to do was to suppress enough of the other voters either through active measures or simply through indifference and apathy to guarantee them an electoral majority.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:44:06am

re: #62 Joe Bacon 🌹

Meanwhile let’s check in with the Pulpit Pimps who proclaim Trump to be our king…

Trump “pro-life” evangelicals are now fiercely defending the murder of actual babies

dailykos.com

This is horrifying and disturbing. Yet the exact same people who claim to be “pro-life” and scream about the termination of a damn clump of cells are now justifying and excusing the murder of actual babies. This goes well beyond their glorification of assault rifles, or laughing at a stupid Trump video depicting a congregation getting butchered. This is downright depravity.

Ralph Reed recently went on a tear about how horrible abortion is, while in the same breath saying that evangelical Christians must obey Trump. He supports the Syrian slaughter because he literally argued that Trump was equal to God. His book was even entitled “Render to God and Trump”.

Paula White said opposing Trump was opposing God.

Robert Jeffress announced that he will submit and defer to Trump on his decision to allow the killing of the Kurds. He admitted what we already know: not one evangelical will change their vote over this.

Sure enough, at the so-called “Values Voter Summit”, which occurred after the Trump-approved genocide, all of the pastors prayed for Trump and commanded obedience to their Golden Calf.

And, as expected, reporters couldn’t find one right-wing evangelical willing to condemn him over this.

[Embedded content]

For the record, Trump has actually agreed with the evangelical claim that he was the “second coming of God”, and the “King of Israel”. In reality, he is dangerous sociopath who cages toddlers and now, allows them to be killed for his own nefarious purposes. That isn’t God-like at all. Rather, it is the personification of evil.

But these Christians rejoice when the Kurds are being slaughtered just like those same Christians turned their backs on the Jews and others when Hitler came to power in Germany.

Oh, I forgot…Candy ASS Owens saw nothing wrong with Hitler killing Jews as long as he only did it in Germany.

They are just like those Germans who supported Hitler. If you ever say as Reed did that you need to submit yourself to a leader’s whims, I know exactly who you would have been in 1933 and it would be on the wrong side.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:44:47am

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This base was the linchpin of their strategy to win in 2016: they could count on that hard core of 30% to get out and vote, all they had to do was to suppress enough of the other voters either through active measures or simply through indifference and apathy to guarantee them an electoral majority.

A lot has changed in the past three years. They can’t rely on apathy and Clinton hatred anymore.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:47:17am

re: #66 HappyWarrior

A lot has changed in the past three years. They can’t rely on apathy and Clinton hatred anymore.

of course, but what other base of support do they have? they have gone so far in playing to their base that they have alienated too many other people.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:48:14am

re: #66 HappyWarrior

A lot has changed in the past three years. They can’t rely on apathy and Clinton hatred anymore.

But they can rely on voter suppression and having their thugs intimidate people of color from coming to the polls.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:48:49am

The MAGA maggots celebrating Elijah Cummings death.

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plansbandc  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:48:50am

re: #22 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

He was a truly great man. A sad day for us all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:49:19am

re: #68 Joe Bacon 🌹

But they can rely on voter suppression and having their thugs intimidate people of color from coming to the polls.

Or just “losing” their ballots on their way to being counted.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:49:55am

re: #68 Joe Bacon 🌹

But they can rely on voter suppression and having their thugs intimidate people of color from coming to the polls.

That’s why we gotta stand strong. I vote in a very Republican precinct and I always let the Dem precinct workers know I’m an ally. Some of them know me since I’ve done local work. We have to stand strong.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:51:26am

re: #69 DodgerFan1988

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The MAGA maggots celebrating Elijah Cummings death.

It’s okay. I’ll piss on Trump’s grave too when he dies. And Cummings dying isn’t gonna stop Trump from being impeached at all.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:54:01am

re: #28 HappyWarrior

Oh God I don’t wanna know what he will say. I know Obama and even W Bush will be thoughtful and compassionate.

And Presidents Carter and Clinton.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:54:15am

I hate that Trump has outlived so many good people.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:54:45am

re: #74 Patricia Kayden

And Presidents Carter and Clinton.

Oh absolutely.

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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:54:53am

re: #54 HappyWarrior

And even with all this, conservatives still cry Facebook is biased against them.

It’s for the same exact reason they complain and rage at the Times despite them basically ceding to the GOP’s every demand: it’s never enough. The existence of anything that isn’t their viewpoint is enough for them to scream bias, and the fact that these outlets are ceding ground does the exact opposite of assuage them. They instead take it as admission of bias and guilt and thus spurts them to rage all the more.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:55:21am

re: #69 DodgerFan1988

I’m not reading anything by racists about Rep Cummings. Not at all interested in what they have to say.

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jeffreyw  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:57:06am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:57:57am

So I am just seven updings away from 125K karma, which will put me at halfway in my lifetime goal of achieving 250K.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:00:06am

re: #77 Citizen K

It’s for the same exact reason they complain and rage at the Times despite them basically ceding to the GOP’s every demand: it’s never enough. The existence of anything that isn’t their viewpoint is enough for them to scream bias, and the fact that these outlets are ceding ground does the exact opposite of assuage them. They instead take it as admission of bias and guilt and thus spurts them to rage all the more.

I am just so sick of conservatives complaining about how persecuted they are while they actively seek to persecute people.

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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:02:31am

re: #81 HappyWarrior

I am just so sick of conservatives complaining about how persecuted they are while they actively seek to persecute people.

It all amounts to projection and entitlement.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:04:53am

re: #82 Citizen K

It all amounts to projection and entitlement.

It’s what conservatism is. An ideology of entitlement. And it’s honestly always been that way to some extent going back to the beginning of modern political ideology theory.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:06:43am

re: #51 Citizen K

Likely to the surprise of no one here, it seems that Facebook is literally run by Republicans, for Republicans.

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Read the rest of the thread as well as the pieces attached. It looks like Zuck may just be a coward, but the rest of Facebook’s leadership truly are fellow travelers.

Facebook is a tool of the GOP and Russia. FUCK FACEBOOK

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:08:47am

re: #84 Eventual Carrion

Facebook is a tool of the GOP and Russia. FUCK FACEBOOK

When people started relying on their FB feed for news and political commentary, and when “trending on Twitter” became a news item in and of itself, I began to despair for the future of the Republic.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:11:04am

re: #69 DodgerFan1988

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The MAGA maggots celebrating Elijah Cummings death.

Fuck them all. Including my family members who rejoice over his death. Fuck every last one of them.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:13:49am

The problem is everyone has access to more information than ever before. We’re accessing information much faster than we absorb and understand it. My FB isn’t politics free. I think most people know I’m pretty liberal and hate Trump but some people just post article after article and meme after meme. There’s not discussion because by the time you’ve thought out a reply to your friend or family member posting something bonkers they’ve already posted something else and you just say fuck it and shrug.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:14:38am

I just saw that Rep Cummings has died. RIP Rep Cummings. You will be missed.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:18:38am

Btw what makes this a great blog is that we do discuss things. We do try to slow down and focus. Even though that’s tough too. In 24 hours, Trump has called the Kurds worse than ISIS, thrown a shitfit at Pelosi, & Cummings passed away. When people criticize the 24/7 news cycle, I finally get what they mean. News is good. It’s good to know about the world around us but it’s easy to get overwhelmed too. The

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:20:32am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

T My FB isn’t politics free. I think most people know I’m pretty liberal and hate Trump but some people just post article after article and meme after meme.

I block or even unfriend people who get too carried away with politics on FB. If I want to post on politics, I visit a closed political page on FB or come here.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:21:53am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I block or even unfriend people who get too carried away with politics on FB. If I want to post on politics, I visit a closed political page on FB or come here.

That’s your choice and I respect that but politics is part of who I am so I’m gonna post politics stuff from time to time. Plus my Trump supporting friend family need to get a reality ass kick.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:22:11am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:23:37am

re: #89 HappyWarrior

Btw what makes this a great blog is that we do discuss things.

I came here back in 2007, back when this site was rather more conservative. Even for that, I found a good argument here, a minimum of trolling, baiting and personal attacks, and you did not suffer creationists or anti-science rhetoric. Overall, I have been pleased at how things have developed here.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:24:27am

re: #63 HappyWarrior

Give Alex Jones time. He’ll claim Cummings had the truth about HRC or the witch hunt and Pelosi killed him.

Relatives posting the latest Qbullshit that Pelosi had Cummings killed “because he was going to expose the Deep State…”

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:25:30am

May be too subtle for said Kentuckians, but it is funny:

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Kilroy was here  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:26:40am

Just to be clear.. Cummings replacement isn’t appointed by the Governor of Maryland.

baltimoresun.com
What will happen to Elijah Cummings’ seat in Congress after his death? Here’s what the law says.

When a Maryland congressional seat becomes vacant, Gov. Larry Hogan has 10 days to issue a proclamation stating a special primary election and a special general election will be held to fill the vacancy, according to the law.

The special primary election shall be held on a Tuesday that is at least 65 days after the proclamation was issued and the special general election shall be held on a Tuesday that is at least 65 days after the primary.

Hogan’s spokesman, Mike Ricci, said Thursday morning that it wasn’t clear yet when the special election would take place.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:26:55am

re: #94 Joe Bacon 🌹

Relatives posting the latest Qbullshit that Pelosi had Cummings killed “because he was going to expose the Deep State…”

Predictable af.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:29:34am

re: #96 Kilroy was here

Just to be clear.. Cummings replacement isn’t appointed by the Governor of Maryland.

baltimoresun.com
What will happen to Elijah Cummings’ seat in Congress after his death? Here’s what the law says.

When a Maryland congressional seat becomes vacant, Gov. Larry Hogan has 10 days to issue a proclamation stating a special primary election and a special general election will be held to fill the vacancy, according to the law.

The special primary election shall be held on a Tuesday that is at least 65 days after the proclamation was issued and the special general election shall be held on a Tuesday that is at least 65 days after the primary.

Hogan’s spokesman, Mike Ricci, said Thursday morning that it wasn’t clear yet when the special election would take place.

I don’t think any state has its governor appoint temporary House members. That seat is bluest of blue though. It will be retained but what will be missed will be Cummings.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:32:19am

re: #95 Belafon

May be too subtle for said Kentuckians, but it is funny:

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I remember predicting that Christie wouldn’t make it in the GOP primary because I thought a relatively secular minded Easterner would not resonate with the GOP base. I was right about Christie but Trump? This is a guy who on paper is everything conservatives claim to oppose but they embraced him because of their shared prejudice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:34:26am

re: #99 HappyWarrior

I remember predicting that Christie wouldn’t make it in the GOP primary because I thought a relatively secular minded Easterner would not resonate with the GOP base. I was right about Christie but Trump? This is a guy who on paper is everything conservatives claim to oppose but they embraced him because of their shared prejudice.

I also wondered how a serial monogamist, whoremonger and casino owner could win over the hearts and minds of Fundamentalist America, but I have come to realize the deep admiration they have for wealth, power and bigotry.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:35:22am

125K on the nose!!!

Thank you all, I can take a break now, got the rest of my life to round this up to 250K

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:35:37am

The thing is the GOP base isn’t moral nor family minded. They’re bigoted minded. Trump gave them that. Reagan did too and it’s why I call Reagan a protoTrump.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:36:06am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I also wondered how a serial monogamist, whoremonger and casino owner could win over the hearts and minds of Fundamentalist America, but I have come to realize the deep admiration they have for wealth, power and bigotry.

It’s really that simple.

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b.d. (It's All True)  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:37:07am

LOL, is that Pence’s negotiating face?

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:39:51am

POS45 did not write this:

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:40:06am

re: #104 b.d. (Lock Them Up!)

LOL, is that Pence’s negotiating face?

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He practiced staring at the Obama-Putin picture the whole way over.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:40:30am

Rat, about to jump ship…

Cool, dude. We’ll prosecute you last.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:43:17am

re: #105 The Pie Overlord!

POS45 did not write this:

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This is so fake and hollow after what he said literally last month. And yeah he didn’t write it.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:47:12am

This is a quick reminder of where Mr. Cummings was toward the end of his life as he contemplated how Trump got elected (what till the end):

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:48:31am

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:50:05am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:51:36am

re: #109 Barefoot Grin

This is a quick reminder of where Mr. Cummings was toward the end of his life as he contemplated how Trump got elected (what till the end):

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Now I wanna cry too.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:51:56am

re: #111 The Pie Overlord!

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He’s such a whiner.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:55:12am

I’ve been asking myself the same question John asked Elijah, how does the America that elected Obama then elect Trump? And yes I know he had help but that it was even close. Cummings was right. It’s greater than Trump. It’s what we stand for as a people.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:55:24am

re: #105 The Pie Overlord!

POS45 did not write this:

At least he let someone else write the tweet.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:59:42am
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:00:03am
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:00:37am
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:01:27am
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:01:55am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:04:36am

Trump’s personal lawyer, campaign manager and campaign adviser are all behind bars….among others.

But Trump claims complete innocence and infers that there is no motivation beyond political revenge and personal hatred to justify any further investigations.

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Jay C  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:06:00am

re: #98 HappyWarrior

I don’t think any state has its governor appoint temporary House members. That seat is bluest of blue though. It will be retained but what will be missed will be Cummings.

True: State Governors appoint replacement Senators, not Representatives. Bummer that it will take about five months to fill the vacancy, though.

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b.d. (It's All True)  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:09:07am

re: #107 makeitstop

Rat, about to jump ship…

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Cool, dude. We’ll prosecute you last.

Trump’s only defense was to have his people stonewall Congress and they aren’t listening to him.

Toast.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:16:35am

re: #122 Jay C

True: State Governors appoint replacement Senators, not Representatives. Bummer that it will take about five months to fill the vacancy, though.

For sure.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:20:46am

re: #99 HappyWarrior

I remember predicting that Christie wouldn’t make it in the GOP primary because I thought a relatively secular minded Easterner would not resonate with the GOP base. I was right about Christie but Trump? This is a guy who on paper is everything conservatives claim to oppose but they embraced him because of their shared prejudice.

If there is such a thing as an anti christ, trump is it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:23:19am

re: #107 makeitstop

Rat, about to jump ship…

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Cool, dude. We’ll prosecute you last.

He has a ton of cash on the line. Trump cannot guarantee the sweet taxpayer dollars will continue to flow.

But hey, I will take self-protection if it brings down this lunatic POS who’s occupying our White House.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:26:37am
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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:30:42am

re: #127 makeitstop

Thank your boss, Pence. Erdogan learned it from him.

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Jay C  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:32:02am

re: #127 makeitstop

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Took me a minute to figure out that “bilat” is probably shorthand for “bilateral”. From the context of Pence meeting with Erdogan, I though it might be the Turkish word for “bullshit fest”…

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:32:09am

re: #127 makeitstop

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Thought Erdo said he would only talk to tRump.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:32:20am

re: #128 Belafon

Thank your boss, Pence. Erdogan learned it from him.

Not sure why pence would want that anyway, to be honest.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:32:42am
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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:33:10am

Pence will be all alone with Erdogan. There is nothing Pence can offer because there’s no way you can count on Trump to back it. With no press, there’s nothing guaranteeing that what Pence says afterwards will be confirmed by Erdogan.

And Putin might have information about how Pence likes to occasionally go to Applebee’s just to shake things up a bit in his life.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:33:15am

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

He was so much more than that.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:34:11am

re: #129 Jay C

I though it might be the Turkish word for “bullshit fest”…

Or ‘ritual humiliation.’

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retired cynic  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:34:53am

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mae T.
@mspoint1106
Really, @nytimes? This is the headline you decided to go with? Really?

So was Michael Cohen. grrr

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:41:00am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:41:36am

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow…just wow. What the fuck is wrong with the NYT these days?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:42:57am

re: #138 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow…just wow. What the fuck is wrong with the NYT these days?

They are fascist adjacent…fascist curious. Always have been.

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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:43:29am

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

Should anyone be surprised at this point? It’s the NYTimes. They refuse to overlook any opportunity to step on their own dicks.

Sadly, they’re far from alone either.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:45:45am

Trump is a proven stable genius, it had to be Nancy…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:47:34am
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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:50:09am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

Am I crazy or is it usually protocol to have the visiting leader’s country’s flag behind him or her?

From what I read this morning, the big flags are reserved for heads of state. Lesser dignitaries get the sammich flags.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:51:34am

re: #140 Citizen K

He said she was a thrid-GRADE politician.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:52:58am

re: #144 Belafon

He said she was a thrid-GRADE politician.

Nah, that’d be too generous to him.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:53:27am

The appliance repair guy was just here and pronounced the dryer deceased and signed the death certificate.

I am out to Lowe’s now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:54:50am

re: #145 Eclectic Cyborg

Nah, that’d be too generous to him.

no, really, he actually said third grade politician

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:55:02am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:55:42am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

no, really, he actually said third grade politician

Oh!

Damn, I thought we were talking about something she said to him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:56:55am

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh!

Damn, I thought we were talking about something she said to him.

he meant to say third rate, but he couldn’t quite manage that

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:57:06am

Bomb cyclone update: The roaring winds kept me up until about 4:00 this morning. Our lighter lawn chairs are strewn about the yard, but surprisingly little damage to the trees. We got a couple of inches of rain, but most of that is gone at this point. Once again, we got lucky.

Still windy here, but not even close to what woke me up after midnight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:59:08am
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Florida Panhandler  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:00:30am

re: #127 makeitstop

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This will make Trump admire him even more.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:01:32am

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh!

Damn, I thought we were talking about something she said to him.

I also didn’t know he literally said third grade.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:02:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:05:08am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:07:02am

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Maybe they only agreed to another tRump tower location.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:09:40am

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why didn’t Trump go to Turkey himself? Isn’t he a master negotiator?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:09:59am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:10:48am

re: #151 makeitstop

Bomb cyclone update: The roaring winds kept me up until about 4:00 this morning. Our lighter lawn chairs are strewn about the yard, but surprisingly little damage to the trees. We got a couple of inches of rain, but most of that is gone at this point. Once again, we got lucky.

Still windy here, but not even close to what woke me up after midnight.

My garbage can was walking across my driveway this morning. I could hear it make its way. I had to bring it back. Then hubby put something into it to try to keep it stable.

Run free, little garbage can!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:10:58am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:11:58am

re: #158 Patricia Kayden

Why didn’t Trump go to Turkey himself? Isn’t he a master negotiator?

And actually have to work?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:12:09am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

Make America Tiny

This was a clear message that Pence is seen as a minor representative from an irrelevant nation.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:13:13am

re: #159 goddamnedfrank

The mobsters that Rudy prosecuted in the 80’s are wondering how come Reagan’s DOJ never approached them to get dirt on Mondale.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:13:14am

re: #162 HappyWarrior

Welp!!!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:14:07am

But speaking of work. I got let go today. Not gonna dwell on it. It sucks but I’ll rebound.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:17:00am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:18:25am

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

I didn’t realize it was that new. Am I seeing correctly that Boris got a hard Brexit? One of my Irish friends who lives in the UK posted that. He’s not a fan of Boris or of the Taoseach.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:18:56am

re: #166 HappyWarrior

Sorry to hear that, friend. :(

Hoping for a quick bounce back.

If I may ask, were other people let go as well?

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:20:14am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This was a clear message that Pence is seen as a minor representative from an irrelevant nation.

No, it’s protocol.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:20:23am

“the President’s direction”

Trump can’t weasel out of this one by pretending that Rudy was freelancing.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:20:29am

re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg

Sorry to hear that, friend. :(

Hoping for a quick bounce back.

If I may ask, were other people let go as well?

Nah just me. It’s my own damn fault. I honestly don’t like how it was handled (phone call). I was staying home today since I woke up with some stomach problems and was and already have used the day to apply for new work. It’s not the end of the world. I TBH was feeling empty by the work. Not a lot of variety.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:20:52am

re: #151 makeitstop

Bomb cyclone update: The roaring winds kept me up until about 4:00 this morning. Our lighter lawn chairs are strewn about the yard, but surprisingly little damage to the trees. We got a couple of inches of rain, but most of that is gone at this point. Once again, we got lucky.

Still windy here, but not even close to what woke me up after midnight.

Lots of the pretty leaves are now on the wet pavement up here; lots of branches, too.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:21:03am

re: #171 goddamnedfrank

“the President’s direction”

Trump can’t weasel out of this one by pretending that Rudy was freelancing.

That’s a pretty big pivot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:21:13am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

I didn’t realize it was that new. Am I seeing correctly that Boris got a hard Brexit? One of my Irish friends who lives in the UK posted that. He’s not a fan of Boris or of the Taoseach.

yes, Boris did that.
Nicola is not happy.
bbc.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:21:46am

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

yes, Boris did that.
Nicola is not happy.
bbc.com

An agreement between the UK and EU was announced on Thursday morning, but is still to face a vote in the Commons.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:23:11am

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

yes, Boris did that.
Nicola is not happy.
bbc.com

Well you know how I feel BWS 26 + 6 and I’ve been favoring an independent Scotland since prior to Brexit, The English nationalists can find out the hard way that they’re morons.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:23:19am
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:25:15am

Yep

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:25:36am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:26:08am

re: #179 goddamnedfrank

Yep

Clearly innocent.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:26:22am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:27:11am

re: #180 Patricia Kayden

Trump has the whitest and malest cabinet in years.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:28:02am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

For the Benefit of Mr. Putin, there will be a show tonight on conquering.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:28:21am

Marcy expertly breaks down Sondland’s statement in this thread:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:31:11am

Who wouldn’t want to wake up and find themselves in The Shining

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:32:17am

re: #186 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Who wouldn’t want to wake up and find themselves in The Shining

Deregulation is awesome isn’t it.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:34:12am

re: #104 b.d. (Lock Them Up!)

LOL, is that Pence’s negotiating face?

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I believe it’s his “Erdogan is giving me a handy” O face.

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b.d. (It's All True)  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:38:31am

re: #185 goddamnedfrank

Marcy expertly breaks down Sondland’s statement in this thread:

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:39:07am

re: #186 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Who wouldn’t want to wake up and find themselves in The Shining

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:41:26am

re: #186 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Who wouldn’t want to wake up and find themselves in The Shining

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Oh, they better sue the damn hell out of that meatpacking plant.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:43:57am

re: #172 HappyWarrior

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:45:56am

Must be some kind of emergency.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:47:32am

re: #192 Eclectic Cyborg

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:48:50am

re: #180 Patricia Kayden

I think there’s one other woman on the left against the wall taking notes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:49:17am

this really is not good:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:49:51am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

this really is not good:

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Yeah but Greta triggered my fee fees.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:51:10am

re: #166 HappyWarrior

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b.d. (It's All True)  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:52:23am

re: #193 jaunte

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Must be some kind of emergency.

Trump is in Texas today so who knows?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:52:31am

re: #198 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:52:55am

re: #199 b.d. (Lock Them Up!)

Trump is in Texas today so who knows?

Maybe the FBI is trying to get in the Oval Office.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:53:28am

re: #199 b.d. (Lock Them Up!)

They’ll need guides to show them where the press briefing room is.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:53:49am

Just the thought of Mick Mulvaney doing the R. Budd Dwyer thing…

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:57:16am

Sondland: “I don’t have a reputation to salvage.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:05:33am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:07:08am

re: #204 jaunte

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Sondland: “I don’t have a reputation to salvage.”

These guys really don’t like the free press.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:07:10am
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BigPapa  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:30:16am

Really bummed about the passing of Elijah Cummings. I didn’t know he was having health issues and he left us early.

The sharecropper’s son became a long serving representative and a key advocate for the rule of law and accountability of the government and president.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:32:16am

If conservatives were not always trying to play gotcha, they would be more effective.
I guess we have that going for us.

Pro tip: check next time to see if he was working from his hospital bed. He was.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:33:40am

re: #209 I Would Prefer Not To

If conservatives were not always trying to play gotcha, they would be more effective.
I guess we have that going for us.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:33:54am

RIP Elijah Cummings. Not the news I wanted to wake up to.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:34:42am

re: #209 I Would Prefer Not To

If conservatives were not always trying to play gotcha, they would be more effective.
I guess we have that going for us.

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It fucking happens but gotta protect Rudy who last I saw, no one elected, no Senate approved, he’s only there to be Cohen 2.0

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:35:15am

re: #211 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

RIP Elijah Cummings. Not the news I wanted to wake up to.

I hear ya. First news I heard today. Already wasn’t feeling well.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:36:29am

I give Trump a week until he mentions he wasn’t a fan of Cummings.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:36:58am

Of course, another difference between the original cargo cultists and pulpit pimps is that the former were usually fairly decent people while the latter are brutal, depraved assholes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:40:00am

moron retweeted this:

useless…all of them

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:41:24am

re: #215 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Of course, another difference between the original cargo cultists and pulpit pimps is that the former were usually fairly decent people while the latter are brutal, depraved assholes.

Very odd that people who claim that death is being called home to enjoy eternal bliss would say something like this.

(No, it’s not odd, I know. Sarc tags don’t quite work for me here.)

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:44:40am

Did Mulvaney show up?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:45:41am

re: #215 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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OFFS.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:45:44am

re: #218 makeitstop

Did Mulvaney show up?

He did. The grift continues.

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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:46:26am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:46:59am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron retweeted this:

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useless…all of them

Nah Soviet style tactics would involve what the Club for Growth is doing to Uncle Mitt but I can see why a hack like Ronna would be confused.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:47:03am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron retweeted this:

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useless…all of them

So now our constitution is “Soviet style”? Imagine that.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:47:10am

re: #218 makeitstop

Did Mulvaney show up?

He’s busy filling his chipmunk cheeks with Trump’s nuts.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:49:20am

Note the ‘Trump national facility’ bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:51:02am

re: #225 makeitstop

Note the ‘Trump national facility’ bullshit.

Remember when we hosted international conferences that weren’t on property owned by our Presidents.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:51:11am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron retweeted this:

useless…all of them

Democrats replaces all of the executive positions with toadies that were picked to protect the president from suffering the consequences of his crimes?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:51:31am

re: #225 makeitstop

Note the ‘Trump national facility’ bullshit.

When did he donate it to the US government?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:56:44am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:57:36am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:58:00am

jfc

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sagehen  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:58:30am

re: #220 makeitstop

He did. The grift continues.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:00:23am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

jfc

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:01:13am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

jfc

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The “tRump” brand is shit pretty much everywhere you go. The name has been taken off some places to minimize their relation to the shitstain.

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BigPapa  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:01:28am

They should hold the Emoluments Clause trial at a Trump facility because we’re so deep into the Wingularity nothing makes sense any more.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:01:44am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

jfc

The White House chief of staff says the #G7 summit will take place at Trump’s Miami golf resort. He says there is no conflict of interest because the Trump brand is already so strong, they don’t need any marketing help Trump is already owned by Putin.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:01:48am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:02:21am
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BigPapa  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:02:50am
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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:03:49am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

The White House chief of staff says the #G7 summit will take place at Trump’s Miami golf resort. He says there is no conflict of interest because the Trump brand is already so strong, they don’t need any marketing help.

Just add another to the articles of impeachment….

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:05:35am
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Stanley Sea  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:05:37am
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:07:19am
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Mike Lamb  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:08:04am

re: #237 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Unless they are relying on some kind of technicality via corporate structures, and trying to argue that money doesn’t go directly to Trump, the idea that he’s not profiting off of this doesn’t pass the smell/laugh/gut/polygraph test.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:08:46am
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:10:22am
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Mike Lamb  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:15:43am

re: #246 jaunte

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:16:35am
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:17:08am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:17:16am

re: #246 jaunte

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Most transparent administration in history I hear.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:19:05am

re: #243 jaunte

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The dictators are now just flat saying it out loud.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:19:56am

re: #247 Mike Lamb

It’s insane how stupid they think we are.

They know McConnell doesn’t care.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:20:03am

re: #251 Scottish Dragon

The dictators are now just flat saying it out loud.

Now imagine if someone told them to get over Benghazi.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:22:45am

YEAH, WE’RE CRIMINALS DOING CRIMES.
WE’LL DO SOME MORE.
GET OVER IT.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:23:35am
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:27:50am
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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:28:52am

re: #9 Dread Pirate

Binyamin Appelbaum

@BCAppelbaum

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Milo Minderbinder, M&MEnterprises in which “everyone has a share.”

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:30:23am

The hustle never ends.

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garzooma  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:30:53am

re: #159 goddamnedfrank

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TIME Magazine:
Exclusive: How a Ukrainian Oligarch Wanted by U.S. Authorities Helped Giuliani Attack Biden

Good to see some coverage of this.

One thing I’m still like to get more information on:

Documents from the Firtash case have become even more useful to Giuliani and Trump as they roll out their response to the impeachment inquiry. At the center of Giuliani’s counterattack so far is the affidavit signed by Shokin, Ukraine’s former prosecutor general, which alleges that Biden caused Shokin’s dismissal in order to stop a corruption probe into Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company. Biden’s son Hunter sat on the board of that company for about five years, reportedly earning $50,000 a month.

I haven’t seen anywhere whether the affidavit has actually been submitted to the Vienna court where Firtash is fighting his extradition. As the article shows, claim is clearly bogus. It’s hard to believe that Shokin would expose himself to sanctions in a European court. And if it wasn’t actually submitted, it would be useful to know.

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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:31:34am

re: #247 Mike Lamb

It’s not that they think we’re stupid. It’s that they thing we’re powerless to stop it no matter how mad we get. And unfortunately, we may just be. The cruelty is the point, remember. If it triggers them libs, it’s an unqualified success, and hey, it makes God King Trump all the richer no matter what Mulvaney tries to bullshit, so extra doubleplusgood.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:31:48am

re: #246 jaunte

Asked whether the WH would share documents to support the assertion that Trump Doral has been determined to be the best place to hold the G7 Mick Mulvaney says “absolutely not”.

Highest security clearance and all…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:32:07am

re: #247 Mike Lamb

It’s insane how stupid they think we are.

But we have proven over and over that we are…

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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:32:21am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:32:49am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:34:59am

re: #247 Mike Lamb

It’s insane how stupid they think we are.

We’ll know how stupid we are in 13 months.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:36:05am

re: #262 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But we have proven over and over that we are…

“What do you mean ‘we,’ white man?”

///

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:36:27am
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BeachDem  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:36:38am

re: #244 Mike Lamb

Unless they are relying on some kind of technicality via corporate structures, and trying to argue that money doesn’t go directly to Trump, the idea that he’s not profiting off of this doesn’t pass the smell/laugh/gut/polygraph test.

And there’s this:

The Doral club is a major part of Trump’s portfolio. It provides him more revenue than any other hotel or golf club, and he took out $125 million in loans to buy it.

But, in recent years, this keystone property has fallen into decline, with profits falling 69 percent in three years. An expert hired by the Trump Organization blamed the drop on Trump’s politicized brand.

(so much for Mulvaney’s bullshit “Donald Trump’s brand is probably strong enough as it is”
washingtonpost.com

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:37:16am

I’m sure Cornyn and Cruz are corrupt enough.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:39:07am

Thread (you’re gonna want to look behind the clicky)

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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:40:25am
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:42:01am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:43:13am
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:45:13am

If they were smarter, they might get angry about being so transparently manipulated.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:45:58am

re: #273 Charles Johnson

Democrats, the ball is in your court.

Please don’t let us down. The time for hardball IS NOW.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:46:19am

re: #273 Charles Johnson

The Trump crime family has clearly made the calculation that they don’t need to cover anything up, that they’re going to get away with everything because the Republican Party is in their pocket. So they’re flaunting their crimes now, enjoying the feeling of power.

If the GOP turns on Trump, they lose their power base.

Just as with Brexit, give a politician the choice between trashing their country or losing power, the answer is a no-brainer.

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Teukka  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:46:58am

OMG, just read this brutal joke…

I went to donate blood.
But there was so many questions.
“Whose blood?”
“Where did you get it?”
“Why is it in a bucket?”
Screw that! I left.

(For those who didn’t get it: it’s a joke)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:48:43am

re: #277 Teukka

OMG, just read this brutal joke…

I went to donate blood.
But there was so many questions.
“Whose blood?”
“Where did you get it?”
“Why is it in a bucket?”
Screw that! I left.

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Yeah the thought of Count Dracula coming to a blood bank for a withdrawal…

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:52:48am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:54:33am

re: #279 Charles Johnson

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Isn’t it nice that I called the fire department after I SET YOUR HOUSE ON FIRE.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:54:54am

re: #280 Charles Johnson

Yep, just like every other insane dictator who knows you have to stroke Trumps ego and put up some cash to get what you want from him.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:55:35am

re: #279 Charles Johnson

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I really get tired of him jerking him and his lackeys off. He made this problem worse.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:56:03am

re: #281 Eventual Carrion

Isn’t it nice that I called the fire department after I SET YOUR HOUSE ON FIRE.

Sure I beat you but I brought bandaids!

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:59:33am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:02:14am
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Ace Rothstein  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:03:44am

I’m starting to think the end of this will be like Henry Hill in Goodfellas. He walks off the stand and explains how they did all of it, then goes away to live like a schnook.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:04:19am

Of course, you’d have to be smart like Henry and his crew were.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:05:12am

I went out to buy a new dryer. Anything happen while I was away?

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:09:52am

re: #289 The Pie Overlord!

Florida GOP admits climate change is real.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:11:00am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:11:02am

re: #290 Ace Rothstein

Florida GOP admits climate change is real.

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Fucking told them but they were too busy mocking Al Gore.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:13:10am

re: #291 Charles Johnson

promotion of a person’s welfare, especially that of an addict, child, or criminal, by enforcing certain constraints on them, or requiring them to take responsibility for their actions.

That would actually be if his advisers had the courage to actually call Trump on Trump’s shit for once. Tough love my ass. This is a middle finger to an ally that trusted us more than most people would have. I hope screaming Kurdish children haunt Trump’s dreams forever.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:13:49am

re: #292 HappyWarrior

Fucking told them but they were too busy mocking Al Gore.

Once Al Gore came out as an advocate for climate change, they were compelled to deny it out of sheer cussedness.

I do not want to blame Gore at all for speaking out, but it was a bit presumptuous of him to assume he could just declare himself an Elder Statesman and promote a non-partisan cause to the benefit of all Americans and of humanity without facing purely political backlash.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:14:43am

re: #291 Charles Johnson

On a whim, he throws our allies to the wolves, allows them to be slaughtered en masse, then boasts about “tough love.”

In this context, it is a synonym for “tough shit”.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:16:07am

re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Once Al Gore came out as an advocate for climate change, they were compelled to deny it out of sheer cussedness.

I do not want to blame Gore at all for speaking out, but it was a bit presumptuous of him to assume he could just declare himself an Elder Statesman and promote a non-partisan cause to the benefit of all Americans and of humanity without facing purely political backlash.

are
I can’t blame him for that because there are people who certainly started being more aware of the issue because he brought it up. That’s on them. That’s their derangement problem. I know you’re not blaming Gore but Gore should have no regrets. It’s 100% on conservatives and their contempt for anything that isn’t thought of by a Republican.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:19:58am

re: #290 Ace Rothstein

Florida GOP admits climate change is real.

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All I know is of I had beach front property - or any property in south Florida at all, I’d be selling right now and moving up and in.

They’re going to lose miles of beach, miles of inland land mass and all the related infrastructure. Florida is going to go from looking like Long Dong Silver to trumps little mushroom Dick.

I’d sell now while you can still sell.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:20:17am

re: #296 HappyWarrior


I know you’re not blaming Gore but Gore should have no regrets. It’s 100% on conservatives and their contempt for anything that isn’t thought of by a Republican.

Or in the case of ACA, something though of by a Republican but then embraced by a Democrat.

Remember this image?

Newt later disowned it - because he had to in order to retain his standing as a Conservative.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:20:17am

re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Once Al Gore came out as an advocate for climate change, they were compelled to deny it out of sheer cussedness.

I do not want to blame Gore at all for speaking out, but it was a bit presumptuous of him to assume he could just declare himself an Elder Statesman and promote a non-partisan cause to the benefit of all Americans and of humanity without facing purely political backlash.

What would you have had him do?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:20:40am

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:22:03am

re: #298 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Orin the case of ACA, something though of by a Republican but then embraced by a Democrat.

Remember this image?

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Newt later disowned it - because he had to in order to retain his standing as a Conservative.

That’s my point. It wasn’t merely Gore. It was playing to the worst parts of their base. They could have decided even if they didn’t want to frame it as an environmental issue, they could have framed it as a national security one but they didn’t. Why Because their base is full of know nothing morons who think Rush Limbaugh and now Donald Trump are examples of wisdom and intelligence.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:22:43am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:22:53am

re: #299 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

What would you have had him do?

He could have chosen to remain a gray eminence and put another neutral face on it.

but it is mostly the GOP and conservative cussedness that forced them to look on climate change as some Leftist World Coup or Lies from the Pit of Hell, etc…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:23:34am

re: #299 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

What would you have had him do?

Absolutely. He was going to have some issue post Vice Presidency. He chose climate change and I am glad he did. You shouldn’t avoid certain issues because a bunch of yuckleheads are going to be deranged. Just like Michele was right to make nutrition an issue.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:25:09am

re: #303 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

remain a gray eminence and put another neutral face on it.

but it is mostly the GOP and conservative cussedness that forced them to look on climate change as some Leftist World Coup or Lies from the Pit of Hell, etc…

That’s really naive. He was Vice President for eight years and in Congress sixteen years before that. He wanted to use his name and influence for good. He shouldn’t have to operate in fear of an important issue like that being twisted for bad. If he had made childhood poverty an issue, they would have freaked out about that too. You’re asking the man to not have used his name and influence for good and I think that’s unfair.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:25:25am

re: #286 Charles Johnson

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Yes…there is a quid pro quo in negotiations that involves give and take over national priorities. Only banana republics leverage foreign policy for the personal benefit of the country’s leaders.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:25:54am

re: #302 goddamnedfrank

Maybe Biden should send his attorney to Ankara and ask what dirt they have on Trump and I’m sure Trump would be like “Sure, it’s cool!”

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:25:58am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:26:18am

re: #306 Mike Lamb

Yes…there is a quid pro quo in negotiations that involves give and take over national priorities. Only banana republics leverage foreign policy for the personal benefit of the country’s leaders.

Exactly.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:26:27am

I’m afraid the answer is yes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:27:16am

re: #311 Patricia Kayden

I’m afraid the answer is yes.

Get em on record and make it an ad. Most Americans dont’ agree with that.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:29:15am
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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:30:43am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:32:11am

re: #313 Dread Pirate

This really is Mark Burnett’s really bad new reality show where they made the jackass from The Apprentice President and HRC’s actually POTUS and making sane decisions right? God aside from what he does obviously, it’s how he insults us all by acting like everything’s just fine. He’s a fucking wanker who is ruining this country. Trumpers accuse us of being deranged. I want to know what the hell is wrong with them that they don’t hate Trump.

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BeachDem  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:32:19am

re: #309 Dread Pirate

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And…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:33:01am

re: #314 makeitstop

They really think there’s nothing wrong with what Trump did but they insist HRC should be locked up because reasons. I hate tehse assholes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:34:43am

re: #317 HappyWarrior

They really think there’s nothing wrong with what Trump did but they insist HRC should be locked up because reasons. I hate tehse assholes.

When you have relatives who are stupid enough to believe Obama was executed at Gitmo…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:34:57am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

That’s really naive. He was Vice President for eight years and in Congress sixteen years before that. He wanted to use his name and influence for good. He shouldn’t have to operate in fear of an important issue like that being twisted for bad. If he had made childhood poverty an issue, they would have freaked out about that too. You’re asking the man to not have used his name and influence for good and I think that’s unfair.

He certainly underestimated the amount of mindless vitriol that was directed at him personally, regardless of the non-partisan and universal issue.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:35:00am
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:35:54am
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:36:14am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:36:25am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:36:50am

re: #319 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He certainly underestimated the amount of mindless vitriol that was directed at him personally, regardless of the non-partisan and universal issue.

Maybe he did but as you got at even Gingrich was behind it for a time. The reaction to isn’t on him. It’s on the stupid GOP base who doesn’t seem to know the difference between climate and weather.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:37:00am

re: #322 jaunte

Trump still fails to understand that he’s running a government as an elected official of the people, not running a business at his own whim. And apparently Mick Mulvaney the whole fucking GOP is enabling that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:37:44am

re: #318 Joe Bacon 🌹

When you have relatives who are stupid enough to believe Obama was executed at Gitmo…

Yeah i don’t have anything like that but that’s what we’re dealing with. Not people who think that the budget should be balanced before we do spending programs but people who are outright kooks.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:38:04am

re: #323 Charles Johnson

Trump will now attack the Kurds for being ungrateful.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:39:11am

re: #320 Charles Johnson

Is Ben Shapiro going to tell them to sell their houses or is he just going be his usual smug self and act like nothing’s wrong again until his little mansion that he did nothing to deserve is threatened by climate change?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:39:46am
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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:40:50am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:40:51am

re: #323 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:41:04am

This feels like the precursor to WWIII the way the wars in the Balkans were for WWI or the Spanish Civil War or what happened in China for WWII.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:42:59am

re: #275 Eclectic Cyborg

Democrats, the ball is in your court.

Please don’t let us down. The time for hardball IS NOW.

The House impeaches and McConnell takes his cut. The Democrats this is on are the voters.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:47:41am

Infrastructure week is going swimmingly.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:49:10am

So, right after Pence touts a ‘cease fire,’ Turkey’s foreign minister pulls it right back.

Total humiliation.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:49:47am

re: #275 Eclectic Cyborg

Democrats, the ball is in your court.

Please don’t let us down. The time for hardball IS NOW.

President Pelosi needs to destroy what’s left of Donnie’s balls. This week. Hard Stop.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:49:58am

re: #335 makeitstop

So, right after Pence touts a ‘cease fire,’ Turkey’s foreign minister pulls it right back.

Total humiliation.

Why, it’s almost like Trump, Pence, Pompeo don’t have a clue what they’re doing.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:50:26am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:51:04am

re: #338 Charles Johnson

They’re afraid of the orange toddler calling them fake.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:51:25am
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:51:41am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:52:03am

re: #322 jaunte

“Trump still fails to understand that he’s running a government as an elected official of the people, not running a business at his own whim. And apparently Mick Mulvaney is enabling that.”

And Mike Pompeo and Bill Barr and Mitch McConnell…

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:54:57am
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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:56:09am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:56:15am

re: #343 Scottish Dragon

I hate that this fucking guy is one of their most reasonable voices and yes he’s an asshole but I don’t think he’s a treacherous asshole.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:56:54am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:57:12am

re: #343 Scottish Dragon

Narrator: No. They have absolutely no decency.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:57:35am

re: #346 Charles Johnson

“No one talked about ethnic cleansing before I was president!”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:58:16am

re: #347 Eclectic Cyborg

Narrator: No. They have absolutely no decency.

The little secret that Joe won’t admit is that they never really did. Joe owes his name in politics to rage against Obama.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:58:17am

re: #345 HappyWarrior

I hate that this fucking guy is one of their most reasonable voices and yes he’s an asshole but I don’t think he’s a treacherous asshole.

He is an equal opportunity jerk, but he actually tries to be dedicated to actual principles. Also, he has made real efforts in reforming some of his earlier jerkitude.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:58:21am

re: #346 Charles Johnson

“Cleaned out.”

CLEANED OUT?!

We’re talking about people who were bombed to death, not a fucking Maid service.

Jesus Christ.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:58:21am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:58:44am
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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:58:55am

re: #311 Patricia Kayden

I’m afraid the answer is yes.

The followup question is then “So, you’re OK with Democrats doing it?”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 11:59:13am

re: #350 Scottish Dragon

He is an equal opportunity jerk, but he actually tries to be dedicated to actual principles. Also, he has made real efforts in reforming some of his earlier jerkitude.

That would be my position as well.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:00:39pm

re: #351 Eclectic Cyborg

“Cleaned out.”

CLEANED OUT?!

We’re talking about people who were bombed to death, not a fucking Maid service.

Jesus Christ.

I couldn’t watch all of that. I don’t want to know how he would describe the Holocaust or Rwanda.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:00:51pm

re: #319 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He certainly underestimated the amount of mindless vitriol that was directed at him personally, regardless of the non-partisan and universal issue.

He picked a topic that an entire party has devoted part of their operations to opposing because they get oil money that way, even though the oil companies knew about it. Of course there’s going to be backlash. But you keep pushing it anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:01:00pm

re: #353 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Too late Barr.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:01:46pm

re: #357 Belafon

He picked a topic that an entire party has devoted part of their operations to opposing because they get oil money that way, even though the oil companies knew about it. Of course there’s going to be backlash. But you keep pushing it anyway.

And I might add but in 2001 the GOP wasn’t the outright fuck you environment party it is now.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:02:07pm

Trump is agreeing with tyrants and terrorists all over the world that entire populations are active combatants. Republicans have no idea what they’ve unleashed.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:02:46pm

re: #360 jaunte

Trump is agreeing with tyrants and terrorists all over the world that entire populations are active combatants. Republicans have no idea what they’ve unleashed.

They just had to pander to their stupid base. I don’t know who disgusts me more. The GOP base or the GOP leadership. Oh and the answer is both obviously.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:03:37pm

re: #328 HappyWarrior

Is Ben Shapiro going to tell them to sell their houses or is he just going be his usual smug self and act like nothing’s wrong again until his little mansion that he did nothing to deserve is threatened by climate change?

Noted real estate mogul Aquaman is standing by.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:05:26pm

Today is particularly fucking scary. Today is the first day where I actually believe the 25th Amendment should be enacted.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:06:26pm

re: #363 Dr. Matt

Today is particularly fucking scary. Today is the first day where I actually believe the 25th Amendment should be enacted.

It does make me wonder what Pence would do because Pence is a different kind of nutter than Trump is.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:07:26pm

re: #364 HappyWarrior

It does make me wonder what Pence would do because Pence is a different kind of nutter than Trump is.

If we’d removed Trump a year ago, Pence would never have pulled troops out.

Pence has no ability to fix this.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:08:39pm
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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:09:07pm
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Dr. Matt  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:12:24pm

re: #364 HappyWarrior

It does make me wonder what Pence would do because Pence is a different kind of nutter than Trump is.

The Handmaid’s Tale.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:12:59pm

re: #367 Scottish Dragon

I remember all the times the GOP called Obama an appeaser for wanting diplomacy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:13:22pm

re: #368 Dr. Matt

The Handmaid’s Tale.

Yep. All shit alternatives. I’ll take President Pelosi.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:13:49pm
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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:15:51pm

re: #346 Charles Johnson

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That is Final Solution stuff right there. No mistake about it.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:16:28pm

Pence needs to go to the Hague.

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Interesting Times  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:17:27pm

Well this is comforting o_O

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:19:04pm

re: #348 HappyWarrior

“No one talked about ethnic cleansing before I was president!”

Trump the American Milosevic.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:19:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:20:25pm

re: #374 Interesting Times

Well this is comforting o_O

I’ve seen some people damn Trump with faint praise by saying he would be too chickenshit to start a war himself and yeah maybe so but he would gladly faciliate a war by enabling a tyrant like Erdogan.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:20:38pm

re: #375 DodgerFan1988

Trump the American Milosevic.

That’s a good analogy.

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BigPapa  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:21:06pm

AM radio is a hoot. This AM the host (does it matter who?) had a hard time keeping wingnut callers in line with the ever evolving narratives. Despite the horror of all this, the comedy helps sooth the frayed nerves, if ever so fleeting.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:21:55pm

So, three weeks of THERE WAS KNOW PRO QUID LOW WITH UKRAINE and now Mulvaney’s like yeah we did it politics is OK in foreign policy.

So, that’s where we are now? Just checking.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:22:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:22:56pm

re: #380 Sir John Barron

So, three weeks of THERE WAS KNOW PRO QUID LOW WITH UKRAINE and now Mulvaney’s like yeah we did it politics is OK in foreign policy.

So, that’s where we are now? Just checking.

////

As of now yes. By this evening we’ll enter the attrocities on the Kurds is no big and some are even saying they deserve it phase.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:22:59pm

re: #376 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m glad Governor TCOT is weighing on a significant policy issue.

//

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Dr. Matt  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:25:07pm

re: #383 Sir John Barron

I’m glad Governor TCOT is weighing on a significant policy issue.

//

Is #tcot still a thing?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:25:16pm

re: #376 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Governor TCOT is such a wanker. Hopefully he’s the last Texas GOP governor for a long time.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:25:34pm

re: #353 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Everything is fine, everything is

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:26:26pm

re: #343 Scottish Dragon

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No

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:29:57pm

If Mulvaney’s riffing was intentional, it was also monumentally stupid.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:30:15pm
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ericblair  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:31:28pm

re: #371 jaunte

NEW - A senior DOJ official has now provided this statement to reporters further distancing the department from Mulvaney’s comments: “If the White House was withholding aid in regards to the cooperation of any investigation at the Department of Justice, that is news to us.”

Senior DOJ official: What elephant?
(Elephant shits on official’s head, pisses on shoes, and sits in the middle of the room with his ass in official’s face)
Senior DOJ official: Oh, THAT elephant.

Mulvaney is just as stupid and crazy as any other one of the assholes, except for the Asshole-in-Chief.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:31:47pm
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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:31:52pm

Trump. Got. Rolled. Again.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:32:11pm

re: #389 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Good job by Pence, et al., to get all the stakeholders to the table for the negotiations.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:33:09pm

re: #335 makeitstop

Antifa: This is not a ceasefire. We will pause the operation for 120 hours in order for the Proud Boys to leave. We will only stop the operation if our conditions are met.

Maybe we should put it in a language they think they understand.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:33:37pm

re: #392 makeitstop

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Trump. Got. Rolled. Again.

First time I’ve felt like things are happening too fast. Between the G7 bullshit and the “cease fire” it’s becoming mind numbing.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:33:51pm

re: #392 makeitstop

Trump. Got. Rolled. Again.

From Maddow:

(1) turkey wants to push the kurds out of that part of syria.
(2) trump gives ‘em the OK to invade.
(3) pence brokers a “deal” in which the kurds… must get out of that part of syria.
(4) the US agrees to un-sanction turkey.

that’s a “deal” like being mugged is a deal.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:34:04pm

There goes Mittens…

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:34:51pm

re: #376 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Abbott may have stayed in downtown Dallas, but he never went to downtown Dallas.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:34:52pm
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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:35:26pm

Trump’s managed to singlehandedly destroy any of our international authority within 3 years. Even Bush didn’t destroy our international standing to the extent Trump has.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:36:16pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:38:32pm

So Trump is the Handmaid of all these guys!

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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:40:04pm

wtf

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:41:04pm

re: #397 makeitstop

There goes Mittens…

From the senate floor. That is a step up for the bot.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:41:33pm

re: #403 Dread Pirate

Have to?

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cat-tikvah  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:41:36pm

re: #404 Belafon

I agree. That merits a half-vertebra on the spine scale.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:41:44pm

NY 12th (parts of Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn & Roosevelt Island)

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:42:31pm
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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:42:43pm

re: #403 Dread Pirate

wtf

“It’s just a real estate transaction. The Kurds weren’t paying their rent.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:44:13pm

re: #397 makeitstop

There goes Mittens…

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I have to admit. I think Romney’s an asshole. A protoTrump but he’s actually not going quiet on this.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:46:19pm

re: #410 HappyWarrior

I have to admit. I think Romney’s an asshole. A protoTrump but he’s actually not going quiet on this.

I still cannot imagine any other Republican doing what Trump has done, no matter how much I dispise them.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:46:54pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:47:13pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:47:46pm

re: #410 HappyWarrior

Romney is horrible in many ways but Trump is a special brand of awfulness. He’s the worst president in my lifetime and I’m 50.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:47:53pm

When you make comparisons to Chamberlain for people, make sure to include that Britain was in no condition to fight a war with Germany at the time, which makes what Trump has done even worse.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:48:12pm

re: #395 Mike Lamb

First time I’ve felt like things are happening too fast. Between the G7 bullshit and the “cease fire” it’s becoming mind numbing.

I think tRump (Putin) knows the shit is coming down and he (Putin) wants his monies worth NOW from his investment.

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Jay C  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:48:37pm

re: #407 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

NY 12th (parts of Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn & Roosevelt Island)

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My Congresswoman. Funny, I just emailed her yesterday about getting on the stick to move the impeachment process further along in the House.

So I guess she is (but I won’t take the credit…..)

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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:48:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:49:15pm

re: #411 Belafon

I still cannot imagine any other Republican doing what Trump has done, no matter how much I dispise them.

Same.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:49:48pm

re: #400 Citizen K

Trump is number 1 at something then.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:50:33pm

re: #418 Dread Pirate

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This guy is good enough but not Garland. Fuck he’s only five years older than I am.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:50:36pm

re: #410 HappyWarrior

I have to admit. I think Romney’s an asshole. A protoTrump but he’s actually not going quiet on this.

He’s not wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:51:21pm

re: #414 Patricia Kayden

Romney is horrible in many ways but Trump is a special brand of awfulness. He’s the worst president in my lifetime and I’m 50.

Trump is the worst president in anyone’s lifetime.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:51:50pm

re: #394 Belafon

And the terrorists are the Kurds, I presume, including the women and children.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:52:13pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:53:05pm

re: #422 makeitstop

He’s not wrong.

If he would just commit to running as a 3rd Party candidate in 2020, to peel off the “Decent Republicans” to a new party, and also nominate an entire slate of candidates to run at the state and local level, a lot of this awfulness could be wrapped up in the next 13 months.

Hey, a guy can dream, can’t he?

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Interesting Times  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:53:14pm

re: #414 Patricia Kayden

Romney is horrible in many ways but Trump is a special brand of awfulness. He’s the worst president in my lifetime and I’m 50.

Last year, I would’ve still granted that “honor” to GW Bush due to the sheer body-count factor (Iraq war, Katrina, etc). Thanks to Puerto Rico, border deaths, and this fiasco, however, I think trump will soon have him tied if not beat.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:54:38pm
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Kilroy was here  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:56:35pm

I am seeing things?
*Front page of the Washington Post:


Same story from the Post
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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 12:59:37pm

re: #428 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Paying for training like that and others - like ethics - are negotiated in contracts my company does with the government.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:01:24pm

re: #429 Kilroy was here

I am seeing things?
*Front page of the Washington Post:

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The first one is just how Trump makes a point. The three fingers aren’t spread out properly.

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Skip Intro  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:01:34pm
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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:05:53pm

Lieflation.

“Peace in our time.”

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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:07:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:08:36pm

re: #434 Dread Pirate

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So straws on the next acting acting chief of staff?

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:08:38pm

Adam Silverman states the other big problem:

That’s right, you’re not crazy, you’re not hallucinating Mike Pence and Mike Pompeo, on orders from the President, just ceded 20 miles of Syria to Turkey. Land that Syria’s Kurds have long claimed as a homeland where they deserve self determination and recognition as a nation-state. This was done unilaterally. Without consulting with the Syrians. Or the UN. Or Congress. Or seemingly anyone else. I’m sure Sean Hannity and Lou Dobbs got asked for their opinions though. The President definitely knows how to get a real estate deal done!

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:09:00pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:09:35pm

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:10:09pm

re: #434 Dread Pirate

Oversight Committee Republicans are a little too slow today.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:11:07pm

re: #432 Skip Intro

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I and others wondered in the early Facebook days how it stayed afloat with a money loosing business model. Maybe it was buoyed/instigated by more than a few rubles?

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:12:34pm

Turkey is really rubbing our noses in shit here.

And Trump’s out there crowing. Moron.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:12:46pm

re: #436 Belafon

Adam Silverman states the other big problem:

Way to go Dumbass. But hey I’m sure G7 will be great.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:13:01pm

re: #439 jaunte

Oversight Committee Republicans are a little too slow today.

To be fair, it’s all happening so fast now we’re all struggling to keep up. We knew it was just a matter of time before we got two kaiju scandals at once.

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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:14:10pm

re: #442 HappyWarrior

Way to go Dumbass. But hey I’m sure G7 will be great.

Trump’s going to get millions of dollars in his pocket over it, that’s all he cares about.

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KGxvi  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:17:32pm

re: #442 HappyWarrior

Way to go Dumbass. But hey I’m sure G7 will be great.

If Trump somehow manages to win re-election in 2020, by 2021 it’s going to be the G6

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:20:53pm
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KGxvi  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:21:37pm

re: #440 Eventual Carrion

I and others wondered in the early Facebook days how it stayed afloat with a money loosing business model. Maybe it was buoyed/instigated by more than a few rubles?

Keep in mind, Facebook’s early years aligned with the bubble years of 2006-2009. There were plenty of venture capitalists looking to invest in all sorts of tech companies. And having a “losing” investment on paper probably helped their overall portfolio by mitigating some gains; then once the IPO came, they made everything back

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:28:34pm

More winning.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:33:51pm

What the actual Fucking fuck?

A new study says there could be a surprising consequence to losing weight later in life

Researchers found the association between weight gain and mortality weakens as you get older and losing weight in middle age or late adulthood may heighten the risk of premature death, particularly when it comes to heart disease.

Read in CNN: apple.news

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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:34:33pm

Sounds like NC will likely join Ohio as far as being (remaining?) lost for a generation.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:35:36pm

re: #449 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What the actual Fucking fuck?

Read in CNN: apple.news

Until it’s “3 new studies” people should blow them off.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:39:08pm

re: #450 Citizen K

Sounds like NC will likely join Ohio as far as being (remaining?) lost for a generation.

There’s a big difference between NC and Ohio, though. NC has enough Democratic voters that the governor and Supreme Court are Democratic. And the maps still have to get through the court.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:40:35pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:43:28pm

re: #449 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What the actual Fucking fuck?

Read in CNN: apple.news

I focus on maintaining a healthy weight. I walk a couple of miles each day, lift weights every other day. I have no hardcore weight or fitness goals (except for wanting to run a marathon someday).

Point being, I focus on my physical well being but I don’t take it to any extremes.

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Alephnaught  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:43:45pm

Someone mentioned (on this this thread, or downstairs) about sacred music. Here’s some Gaelic (Scottish) Psalm singing.

Martyrs - Gaelic Psalm

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retired cynic  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:45:05pm

re: #434 Dread Pirate

Ryan Goodman

@rgoodlaw
Looks like Mulvaney said too much.

Nobody every said any of those birds were bright!

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KGxvi  Oct 17, 2019 • 1:46:47pm

re: #448 Ace Rothstein

Nobody was going to save coal jobs. In 2014 coal accounted for 39% of all US energy, in 2018, it was 27%. It’s been trending down since the early 90s when it was almost 60% and likely won’t survive this next decade.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 2:30:53pm

re: #449 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What the actual Fucking fuck?

Read in CNN: apple.news

They never correlated for unintentional weight loss due to an underlying disease.

Just ignore these absolute fucking hacks.

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John Hughes  Oct 17, 2019 • 3:41:43pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

Should ‘shop a small Russian one for Pence’s small US one.


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