Colbert: Ending the Coronavirus Pandemic Is NOT One of Donald Trump’s Accomplishments

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With infections and hospitalizations spiking across the country, the United States is clearly a long way from ending the Covid-19 pandemic. But the White House seems to think a nonsensical press release will make Americans believe otherwise. #Colbert #Monologue #LSSC

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Dave In Austin  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:41:53am

Won’t be long now.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:42:10am

I’m thinking someone was told that he was no longer wanted

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:44:14am

re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m thinking someone was told that he was no longer wanted

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What’s next, Russia Today? Straight to Pravda? Fascist Times?

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Alephnaught  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:44:44am

From last thread:

re: #567 makeitstop

Deep State? No. UPS, doing what they do? Yep.

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Hang on, didn’t Tucker say he had already got the package, and that its contents had been removed?

It Will be interesting to see the pretzel logic he’ll have to employ to explain this one away. (If indeed he bothers.) Either way, whatever this “evidence” is, it’ll probably turn out to be a big nothing burger, especially now that all these hijinks becoming the story now.

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lawhawk  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:48:32am

re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:48:39am

re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m thinking someone was told that he was no longer wanted

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er, um, that’s not what censorship means

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Alephnaught  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:49:21am

re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m thinking someone was told that he was no longer wanted

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Possibly something to do with a rant about Biden?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:49:22am

re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m thinking someone was told that he was no longer wanted

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He’s going to be an open fascist by the decade’s end. I’m glad that I immediately saw through him and Snowden.

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NetworkKed  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:49:51am

I might have replied rudely to Greenwald’s tweet. Good riddance.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:51:33am

Maybe Taibbi can join Greenwald in Horseshoes for Trump.

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:51:49am

i know this is correlation without causation
it’s still fun
and would that it were given yesterday’s 11 national polls with trump averaging 42%

First Read points out the direct correlation between a sitting president’s job rating and his ballot position:

In 1984, Ronald Reagan’s job rating was 58%; he got 58.8% of the vote.
In 1992, George H.W. Bush’s rating was 36%; he got 37.4% of the vote.
In 1996, Bill Clinton’s approval was 56%; he got 49.2% in that three-way race.
In 2004, George W. Bush’s approval was 49%; he got 50.7% of the vote.
And in 2012, Barack Obama’s approval was 49%; he got 51.1% of the vote.

President Trump? His job rating in our most recent national NBC/WSJ poll was 44%.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:53:37am

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:53:44am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:54:51am
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lawhawk  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:55:15am

re: #13 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

He’s fashioning himself after Cohaagen in Total Recall or Weyland Yutani from the Alien franchise, or any other corporate villain in scifi.

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:56:44am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:56:45am

I ran quickly to marcy wheeler’s twitter feed at empty wheel and sure enough she’s reloading all of her evidence of GG’s lying in defense of Flynn and Trump recently. I’ll bet that’s behind Intercept editors’ decisions.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:57:42am

re: #11 dangerman

i know this is correlation without causation
it’s still fun
and would that it were given yesterday’s 11 national polls with trump averaging 42%

I think Biden can get a 12% margin. The third party candidates aren’t that viable this time. Trump is bleeding out.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 10:59:32am

Lre: #16 dangerman

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The media for all their flaws isn’t having his shit. No one wants to hear them whine as the pandemic gets worse.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:00:33am

re: #15 lawhawk

He’s fashioning himself after Cohaagen in Total Recall or Weyland Yutani from the Alien franchise, or any other corporate villain in scifi.

Musk will never be as good as my fave sci-fi corporate villain, Dick Jones from Robocop. Played by Ronny Cox, who later starred as Cohaagen in Total Recall.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:02:46am

re: #15 lawhawk

He’s fashioning himself after Cohaagen in Total Recall or Weyland Yutani from the Alien franchise, or any other corporate villain in scifi.

The attempts to make that guy a folk hero creeped me out. I’m all for space exploration but I want to save our planet first.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:03:33am
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danarchy  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:07:10am

re: #4 Alephnaught

From last thread:

Hang on, didn’t Tucker say he had already got the package, and that its contents had been removed?

It Will be interesting to see the pretzel logic he’ll have to employ to explain this one away. (If indeed he bothers.) Either way, whatever this “evidence” is, it’ll probably turn out to be a big nothing burger, especially now that all these hijinks becoming the story now.

Nah, he said they never received the package and that a UPS worker(he didn’t specify UPS at the time) reported the package had been opened and the contents were missing.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:10:20am

re: #13 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Not really worried. The initial colonies will be small and the rules will basically be variants on “how do we survive.” Also, for all of Musk’s eccentricities, he listens to his engineers suggestions.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:11:51am

They deleted the tweet:

re: #561 lawhawk

Fucking fascist cop union covering for fascist criminal cops:

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We have the entire event on video. It shows Philly cops smashing SUV window, assaulting the driver, and grabbing the child out of the vehicle. This wasn’t a lost child. It was a kidnapped child. The cops kidnapped the child under claim of “enforcing law”.

Nothing about this is legit, but the police unions defend this crap uncritically. And the right wing amplifies it. Criticism of the cops and their unions is used as a cudgel against Democrats who insist on holding police accountable for their actions - for cops to do better.

The GOP doesn’t want cops doing better. They want the cops to inflict violence and pain on those the GOP deems unworthy.

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wrenchwench  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:13:15am

From the archives:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:13:28am

I’m pretty sure Joe purposely let’s go of the handrail and trots down the stairs just to annoy Trump

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:15:45am
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:16:36am

re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m thinking someone was told that he was no longer wanted

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jaunte  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:17:06am

Greenwald couldn’t deal with his own fact checkers?

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jaunte  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:19:22am

Sometimes I don’t like having to redo something because my proofreader corrects the grammar, but I haven’t thought of resigning.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:19:25am

re: #13 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Wow. Galt’s Gulch In Outer Space…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:20:33am

re: #7 Alephnaught

“The final, precipitating cause is that The Intercept’s editors censored edited an article I wrote this week…”

editorial decisions by a publication are not censorship, Glenn, you should fucking know that.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:22:02am

re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m thinking someone was told that he was no longer wanted

GG is such an obnoxious hated prick, that his own news outlet told him to fuck off. Congrats.

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b.d.  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:22:31am

The spotlight only will get dimmer for Glenn.

OANN, Newsmax or Infowars will be his next paying gig.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:22:52am
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Jay C  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:23:22am

re: #15 lawhawk

He’s fashioning himself after Cohaagen in Total Recall or Weyland Yutani from the Alien franchise, or any other corporate villain in scifi.

Also reminds me of Heinlein’s Stranger in a Strange Land: they bring the “Man From Mars” back to Earth, and his lawyer argues that by some dimly-applicable legal precedent he actually owns the whole planet by being the only (human) person there…

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Teukka  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:23:35am

re: #35 b.d.

The spotlight only will get dimmer for Glenn.

OANN, Newsmax or Infowars will be his next paying gig.

He could also go out with a loud bang, as spotlights sometimes do ///

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:24:01am

re: #36 Charles Johnson

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Your husband’s sons call Joe Biden a pedophile, you ignorant birther clown.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:24:31am

Just waiting for Hannity & Greenwald to premiere on 19th Century Fox!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:24:35am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:24:57am
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b.d.  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:25:07am

re: #38 Teukka

He could also go out with a loud bang, as spotlights sometimes do ///

We will next see Glenn on TMZ getting knocked to the ground after a fight with his garbageman.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:25:13am

Glenn Greenwald probably farts in a champagne glass to enjoy for personal consumption.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:25:52am

re: #32 🌹UOJB!

Wow. Galt’s Gulch In Outer Space…

There was also a novel by Ben Elton, Stark, about billionaires building a star ark to escape an Earth rendered uninhabitable by pollution.

but…

…as it turns out, the Earth manages to recover while the billionaires, used to living competitively, wound up perishing in space because they did not know how to cooperate

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:26:49am

Tucker: “Those documents are gone! Lost forever! This is all part of nefarious plot!”

UPS: “Yeah, uh, we found your package intact. We’re sending it back to you now.”

Tucker: “Oh…uh…well, they’re later than they should have been. Which only shows that the Deep State is working to defend Biden!”

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Mike Lamb  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:28:44am

re: #30 jaunte

Greenwald couldn’t deal with his own fact checkers?

Exactly…”I’m resigning because they demanded that I be a journalist. The nerve!”

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:31:39am
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lawhawk  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:31:53am

re: #37 Jay C

There was a throwaway line in Matt Damon’s The Martian where he claims Mars as his own as the only person to actually colonize the planet since he grew crops there.

I’ve been thinking about laws on Mars. There’s an international treaty saying that no country can lay claim to anything that’s not on Earth. By another treaty if you’re not in any country’s territory, maritime law applies. So Mars is international waters. Now, NASA is an American non-military organization, it owns the Hab. But the second I walk outside I’m in international waters. So here’s the cool part. I’m about to leave for the Schiaparelli Crater where I’m going to commandeer the Ares IV lander. Nobody explicitly gave me permission to do this, and they can’t until I’m on board the Ares IV. So I’m going to be taking a craft over in international waters without permission, which by definition… makes me a pirate. Mark Watney: Space Pirate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:32:00am

Remember the First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press…”

Congress. Not the fucking editorial board of a publication

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:32:09am

re: #45 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was also a novel by Ben Elton, Stark, about billionaires building a star ark to escape an Earth rendered uninhabitable by pollution.

but…

…as it turns out, the Earth manages to recover while the billionaires, used to living competitively, wound up perishing in space because they did not know how to cooperate

There was a similar storyline planned for Fallout 2 that was never included in the game. Only there, the group planning to escape the planet was called The Enclave, which was a secret organization of politicians, power brokers, and the wealthy elite who saw the impending nuclear war and escaped to a secret network of government bunkers. Their original plan was to use the vaults that most of the unwashed masses escaped to as petri dishes to test out possible scenarios that would be encountered on the space ark being constructed for planetary escape after the bombs fell. But the rocket was destroyed/unfinished when war were declared, so they fell back on Plan B: Reclaim the surface world by wiping out the “mutants” (i.e. anybody who wasn’t living in an Enclave bunker).

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:32:28am

re: #37 Jay C

Also reminds me of Heinlein’s Stranger in a Strange Land: they bring the “Man From Mars” back to Earth, and his lawyer argues that by some dimly-applicable legal precedent he actually owns the whole planet by being the only (human) person there…

Actually, his lawyer (Jubal Harshaw) used the conference to declare that the prevailing idea of Mike’s owning Mars, by reason of his occupying it for a period of time was ridiculous, since it was already occupied.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:32:55am

Greenwald lost his country and now his newspaper. lolz 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:33:14am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember the First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press…”

Congress. Not the fucking editorial board of a publication

Glenn knows that. He’s just assuming that the failed civics and government students who read him don’t.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:33:54am

re: #51 Targetpractice

There was a similar storyline planned for Fallout 2 that was never included in the game. ..

And recall the plot of 2012 with all the rich bastards building their Earth Ark

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:36:16am

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:38:08am

Dear Nate:

Love how that snake chart gets bluer all the time!

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:40:06am

re: #56 BlueSpotinAL

Send lawyers, guns and money
The shit has hit the fan.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:40:56am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:42:21am

re: #59 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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I don’t have much sympathy for Taylor but I do his family who will no doubt experience threats from Trump’s assholes.

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jamesfirecat  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:42:42am

re: #57 🌹UOJB!

Dear Nate:

Love how that snake chart gets bluer all the time!

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Image: xcxyo69rdrq11.jpg

EDIT: Darn, it what is the secret to getting images to show up as images rather than links?

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lawhawk  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:44:32am

Iowa announced they had nearly 2,000 new covid19 cases today. That’s almost more than NY and NJ combined new cases.

ND and SD each has over 1,000 new cases reported today. That’s despite having a population that’s about 4.5% of NY (880k vs 19.5 million). That’s abysmal.

Deaths keep climbing nationwide. We’re losing about 8 737-700 passenger manifests worth of people to the pandemic daily. So when Trump says why is media focusing on covid covid covid and that a plane could crash and they’d focus on covid, you know why:

it’s because we’re losing more than a thousand Americans a day, and it’s the equivalent of crashing a fleet of aircraft every day - Trump’s crashing a plane of covid19 victims every 3 hours. Every day. For months on end.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:44:42am
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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:45:12am

re: #61 jamesfirecat

Image: xcxyo69rdrq11.jpg

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:45:20am

#FireChuckTodd

let’s make this trend….

WATCH: MSNBC’s Chuck Todd Asks if Joe Biden is Taking Covid ‘Too Seriously’

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:45:57am

re: #63 Charles Johnson

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Says someone enabling the man who accuses Latino children seeking asylum of being gang members. Fuck these people

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:46:36am

JFC 🤣

Today, the Washington Post reported that a $250 ad campaign ostensibly designed to “defeat despair” caused by the coronavirus pandemic was tailored boost Trump’s re-election chances. Little surprise there, right? As Trump’s appointees and contractors considered which celebrities to ask to star in the ads, candidates were flat-out rejected if they were seen to be opponents of the president and his policies.

According to leaked documents obtained by the Post, the Trump administration was not keen on asking Billie Eilish to participate: the documents describe Eilish as “not a Trump Supporter” and “destroying our country and everything we care about.” It’s not revealed how the Trump administration reached this equally terrifying and hilarious conclusion.

Out of 274 celebrities considered, 10 were approved. Other rejected celebrities included Jennifer (for her Super Bowl performance which criticized Trump’s immigration policies), Justin Timberlake (“publicly endorsed Obama and supports gay marriage,” according to the Trump admin document), and Christina Aguilera (“is an Obama-supporting Democrat and a gay rights supporting liberal”). Celebrities who made the cut included actor Dennis Quaid, Dr. Oz, and Billy Ray Cyrus.

The entire campaign has been put on hold, and none of the filmed ads have aired on television. The brains behind the campaign, Trump’s Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs Michael Caputo, is currently on a 60-day leave after a Facebook Live broadcast in which he baselessly told Trump supporters to prepare for an armed insurrection led by left-wing groups.

thefader.com

So, obviously the Trumpites think Billie Eilish is more dangerous than COVID-19. And presumably, worse than Hitler.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:46:46am

re: #3 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What’s next, Russia Today? Straight to Pravda? Fascist Times?

OAN, I bet.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:47:28am

re: #65 I Would Prefer Not To

#FireChuckTodd

let’s make this trend….

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WATCH: MSNBC’s Chuck Todd Asks if Joe Biden is Taking Covid ‘Too Seriously’

I know Chuck it’s not like more people have died from Covid than died in WWI but you do you smug asshole who complained that Clinton was too prepared. The irony is for all Trump’s hate of the media, we actually have a lot more justified hate. Trump just gets mad when they quote him.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:47:33am

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:48:05am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:48:24am

re: #59 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

That’s a flat out threat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:48:27am

re: #67 Dr Lizardo

Today, the Washington Post reported that a $250 ad campaign ostensibly designed to “defeat despair” caused by the coronavirus pandemic was tailored boost Trump’s re-election chances.

not gonna get many A-list names with a budget like that…

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:48:28am

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

Send lawyers, guns and money
The shit has hit the fan.

Speaking of Lawyers, Guns and Money:

They note a tweet by noted flouncer Bari Weiss in support of Glenn

lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:49:29am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:49:32am

re: #13 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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That sounds even worse than Thiel’s floating city.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:49:39am

re: #71 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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I love Biden’s team. They don’t miss a single trick!

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gwangung  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:50:12am

re: #63 Charles Johnson

The dear little idiot wouldn’t come in from a pouring rain if a “liberal” said to get dry…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:50:40am

re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m thinking someone was told that he was no longer wanted

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:51:01am
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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:52:08am

re: #65 I Would Prefer Not To

#FireChuckTodd

let’s make this trend….

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WATCH: MSNBC’s Chuck Todd Asks if Joe Biden is Taking Covid ‘Too Seriously’

The man’s pathological need to “Both Sides” every story meets an editorial staff that no doubt is desperate to revive the “horse race” narrative with less than a week to go and an incumbent whose campaign crashed into a ditch and burst into flames months ago.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:52:52am

re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg

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“Great Red Wave”? Is he talking about the bloodbath that’s about to decimate his own party?

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:54:07am

re: #82 Targetpractice

“Great Red Wave”? Is he talking about the bloodbath that’s about to decimate his own party?

The Red Tide is a toxic algae bloom, so very accurate!

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:54:34am

re: #46 Targetpractice

Tucker: “Those documents are gone! Lost forever! This is all part of nefarious plot!”

UPS: “Yeah, uh, we found your package intact. We’re sending it back to you now.”

Tucker: “Oh…uh…well, they’re later than they should have been. Which only shows that the Deep State is working to defend Biden!”

well if they’re late they don’t count, right?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:55:02am

Llre: #81 Targetpractice

The man’s pathological need to “Both Sides” every story meets an editorial staff that no doubt is desperate to revive the “horse race” narrative with less than a week to go and an incumbent whose campaign crashed into a ditch and burst into flames months ago.

Modern journalism is a shit show. The subject of this page and Todd are a great reason why. Over 200K are dead. Glenn thinks his drama with The Intercept is worth a damn and then there’s Chuck here who thinks a presidential candidate is talking too much about the greatest health crisis in a century. We could well end up with more dead than we lost in the Civil War and all those lives had meaning.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:55:32am

re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg

A 3 day extension for Pennsylvania is a disaster for our Nation, and for Pennsylvania itself. The Democrats are trying to steal this Election.

Counting legitimately-cast votes = STEALING AN ELECTION

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:56:10am

re: #82 Targetpractice

“Great Red Wave”? Is he talking about the bloodbath that’s about to decimate his own party?

Gonna enjoy their infighting as Joe works with Nancy and Chuck to actually get shit done rather than rubber stamp judges. It’s gonna be a clinic on how government actually functions.

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bratwurst  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:57:05am

On one hand, I am curious if this moves means Greenwald will finally come out in support of second Trump term.

On the other hand, unfollowing that ghoul was a gift I gave myself early in the pandemic, and it is no exaggeration whatsoever to say it has added quality to my life.

I doubt he will demonstrate the intellectual honesty to give up his charade in any case.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:57:27am

re: #81 Targetpractice

The man’s pathological need to “Both Sides” every story meets an editorial staff that no doubt is desperate to revive the “horse race” narrative with less than a week to go and an incumbent whose campaign crashed into a ditch and burst into flames months ago.

Chuck U has finally surpassed this asshole with the “BSDI” (Both Sides Do It) bullshit!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:58:17am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And recall the plot of 2012 with all the rich bastards building their Earth Ark

I remember the heartwarming moment when the power elites reluctantly decided to let the money elites onto the ark, then the only people who would be worth a damn, the Chinese laborers who did all the work, forced their way on board.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 29, 2020 • 11:59:25am

re: #81 Targetpractice

The man’s pathological need to “Both Sides” every story meets an editorial staff that no doubt is desperate to revive the “horse race” narrative with less than a week to go and an incumbent whose campaign crashed into a ditch and burst into flames months ago.

Chuck Todd and Greenwald should team up to make an even more shitty version of the Daily Caller.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:00:24pm

re: #88 bratwurst

On one hand, I am curious if this moves means Greenwald will finally come out in support of second Trump term.

On the other hand, unfollowing that ghoul was a gift I gave myself early in the pandemic, and it is no exaggeration whatsoever to say it has added quality to my life.

I doubt he will demonstrate the intellectual honesty to give up his charade in any case.

It’s the October Surprise! Greenwald joins forces with Wikileaks to flood our CCCP with forged Russian documents “proving” Hunter Biden is the head of the Satanic Pedophile Ring!

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lawhawk  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:00:48pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

As a couple of folks noted above and on the overnight thread, the Supreme Court is willing to defer to the state courts where they’ve ruled on specific rules, but are more likely to overturn the rules where a federal court has imposed the change.

State courts should have final say over what their states do under their states laws (federalism after all) but we know how states rights works with the right wing. It’s okay until the state’s right being asserted conflicts with GOP/right wing control/power.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:01:11pm

I’m so fucking angry at how this is all a joke to them. But maybe this is what it will take for people to realize that this ideological movement conservatism has always been about one thing and that’s protecting the powerful at the expense of everyone else.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:01:14pm

re: #57 🌹UOJB!

Dear Nate:

Love how that snake chart gets bluer all the time!

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Holy shit, one Quinniapac poll flipped Ohio light blue (still a tossup) after it had been trending pink all week.

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lawhawk  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:01:54pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:02:58pm

re: #45 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That sounds like an interesting read.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:03:28pm

re: #95 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Holy shit, one Quinniapac poll flipped Ohio light blue (still a tossup) after it had been trending pink all week.

Ohio’s gonna be harder to push than the other Great Lake states but it’s doable. Just saw LeBron talk to Obama about his mom voting and how excited she was. LeBron is great. If there’s a celebrity I hope considers office one day, it would be him because he’s a leader all the way around.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:04:08pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:06:02pm

re: #85 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Ll

Modern journalism is a shit show. The subject of this page and Todd are a great reason why. Over 200K are dead. Glenn thinks his drama with The Intercept is worth a damn and then there’s Chuck here who thinks a presidential candidate is talking too much about the greatest health crisis in a century. We could well end up with more dead than we lost in the Civil War and all those lives had meaning.

Apparently Chuck’s whole bit was suggesting that Biden’s taking CV-19 “too seriously” because he’s not showing the same level of disregard for his supporters that Trump does by holding massive rallies with crowds crammed together to look better for the cameras and no masks in sight.

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b.d.  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:07:30pm

The Dudebro Party:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:07:37pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

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The worst presidential campaign ever. Not only is it flailing with a terrible candidate, its actively spreading a deadly virus all over the country.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:07:40pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:10:45pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

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Redrum! Redrum!

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Jay C  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:11:17pm

re: #87 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Gonna enjoy their infighting as Joe works with Nancy and Chuck to actually get shit done rather than rubber stamp judges. It’s gonna be a clinic on how government actually functions.

Hopefully, for Congressional Republicans, it will less of a “clinic” than an “ER”….

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:11:46pm

Are they passing out at the Trump rally

OR

Are they being “slain in the Holy SpiROT” as my brainwashed Jesusbot relatives would proclaim?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:12:38pm

There was a time, when I was a young man, that I thought Glenn Greenwald was a good guy.

Maybe he should do his “reporting” on Gab.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:14:00pm

re: #106 🌹UOJB!

Are they passing out at the Trump rally

OR

Are they being “slain in the Holy SpiROT” as my brainwashed Jesusbot relatives would proclaim?

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The blood of Jesus will 100% protect them from heat stroke. They can turn off the water.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:14:29pm

Basically, Chuck Todd was trying to suggest that Trump might look bad for holding his public rallies, but Biden was hurting his campaign by not doing the same. It really shows the inability of the legacy media to adapt, that they’re still seeing this election as relying upon the ol’ stump speeches and glad-handing in an era where many businesses are going out of business because their customers are afraid to leave the house.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:14:51pm

re: #106 🌹UOJB!

Are they passing out at the Trump rally

OR

Are they being “slain in the Holy SpiROT” as my brainwashed Jesusbot relatives would proclaim?

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They either freeze them out bake them.

Oy. I got nothing.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:15:29pm

re: #106 🌹UOJB!

Are they passing out at the Trump rally

OR

Are they being “slain in the Holy SpiROT” as my brainwashed Jesusbot relatives would proclaim?

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What’s the best way to die for Trump, other than on a ventilator: hypothermia, or heat stroke?

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:17:01pm

Being “slain in the spiROT” reminds me of this clip that always gives me a chuckle!

Pastor Street Fighter 2 [12 Church Warrior Edition]

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:18:16pm

Fark is mocking Greenwald and Tiabbi. These guys have completely lost their mojo, and no longer fool anyone.

https://www.fark.com/comments/11002212/Greenwald-quits-The-Intercept-because-of-repression-censorship

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:18:36pm

re: #37 Jay C

Also reminds me of Heinlein’s Stranger in a Strange Land: they bring the “Man From Mars” back to Earth, and his lawyer argues that by some dimly-applicable legal precedent he actually owns the whole planet by being the only (human) person there…

Makes it awful easy for 2 people to overthrow the whole planet.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:20:56pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:21:25pm

re: #97 Patricia Kayden

That sounds like an interesting read.

I tried to hide the ending under a spoiler tag but could not get it to work

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:21:28pm

Since last night’s report on coronavirus in the Panhandle, two more have died. Total deaths now at midday are 16.

I guess Trump ended the pandemic.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:21:32pm

re: #113 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Fark is mocking Greenwald and Tiabbi. These guys have completely lost their mojo, and no longer fool anyone.

https://www.fark.com/comments/11002212/Greenwald-quits-The-Intercept-because-of-repression-censorship

They’re clowns. I used to read Taibbi a lot since my Dad had a Rolling Stone subscription. I don’t know what happened to him or if this is just who he is but I’ve been disgusted by a lot of people who I thought were former left allies revealing themselves to be okay with Trump’s crimes and I really don’t like how they mock Biden.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:21:58pm

re: #115 DodgerFan1988

I’m glad to see that. He knows how important families are.

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:22:40pm

re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg

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Is anybody besides the lost souls who follow him even listening any more?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:22:48pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:24:38pm

I’m still not convinced Trump won’t find a way to win this.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:25:11pm

re: #121 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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But how much of Kentucky is like West Virginia next door - people who may still be registered as Democrats out of long habit, but have switched their actual votes to Republican in recent cycles?

And how much of that D early-voting advantage, real or illusory, will get reversed by Election Day in-person voting?

I mean, yeah, I want Mitch to lose, too… but that race still feels like the longest of long shots.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:25:18pm
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KGxvi  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:26:33pm

re: #11 dangerman

i know this is correlation without causation
it’s still fun
and would that it were given yesterday’s 11 national polls with trump averaging 42%

It makes sense though, in a re-election campaign that vote share and polling numbers end up pretty close. Ultimately, a re-election campaign is a referendum on the incumbent - if you think he’s doing a good job you’re likely to vote for him; if you don’t think he’s doing a good job you’re likely to vote for the alternative. Unless the alternative is just fucking terrible and/or somehow worse than the incumbent, this just seems obvious to me

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:26:52pm

re: #122 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m still not convinced Trump won’t find a way to win this.

Okay take a deep breath and think about this. He didn’t escape being wiped out in the midterms. He didn’t avoid impeachment. This pandemic is the defining issue of the election and hell I think it’s going to be something that is part of the political conversation for years to come long after Biden, Trump, Pence, and even Harris are gone. He’s totally fucked it up. People are voting in huge numbers. I know someone who unironically called Biden a senile racist in the Spring who ended up voting for him.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:27:06pm

re: #122 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m still not convinced Trump won’t find a way to win this.

None of us are. We’ll forever have 2016 paranoia.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:27:53pm

re: #123 i(m)p(each)sos

But how much of Kentucky is like West Virginia next door - people who may still be registered as Democrats out of long habit, but have switched their actual votes to Republican in recent cycles?

And how much of that D early-voting advantage, real or illusory, will get reversed by Election Day in-person voting?

I mean, yeah, I want Mitch to lose, too… but that race still feels like the longest of long shots.

It is. Conservative Democrats have been voting for Mitch for decades. I only hope enough of them wake the fuck up to vote that monster out of office.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:27:57pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Maybe Glenn can go back to his original career: Defending Matthew Hale and the National Alliance pro bono. Neo-Nazis with an explicit genocidal agenda need their I Amendment rights protected.

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:29:08pm

re: #106 🌹UOJB!

Are they passing out at the Trump rally

OR

Are they being “slain in the Holy SpiROT” as my brainwashed Jesusbot relatives would proclaim?

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nebraska: 9 sent to ER for hypothermia. 30 or so treated at the scene
florida: hold our beer

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lawhawk  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:29:47pm

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Maybe Glenn can go back to his original career: Defending Matthew Hale and the National Alliance pro bono. Neo-Nazis with an explicit genocidal agenda need their I Amendment rights protected.

There’s certainly enough fucking Nazis for him to represent both here in the US and abroad. His dudebro philosophy has sure aided and abetted their spread worldwide.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:29:54pm

re: #125 KGxvi

It makes sense though, in a re-election campaign that vote share and polling numbers end up pretty close. Ultimately, a re-election campaign is a referendum on the incumbent - if you think he’s doing a good job you’re likely to vote for him; if you don’t think he’s doing a good job you’re likely to vote for the alternative. Unless the alternative is just fucking terrible and/or somehow worse than the incumbent, this just seems obvious to me

Yeah I think so too especially when you’ve got a crisis like this going on. I know we were burned badly in 2016 but I think there are factors from ‘16 that were overlooked that we should see now as our benefit. Trump is no longer the blustering challenger telling us to believe him. What’s more is he’s struggled to demonized his opponent. Biden has grown more popular as Trump has attempted to defined him as a corrupt senile puppet of the far left. I think Biden can potentially top out at 55% of the popular vote which would be the highest anyone’s gotten in that since Reagan in ‘84.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:30:20pm

re: #122 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m still not convinced Trump won’t find a way to win this.

Nate says Trump still has an 11% chance, which isn’t zero! Things do seem to be trending the right way though.

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:30:38pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

Basically, Chuck Todd was trying to suggest that Trump might look bad for holding his public rallies, but Biden was hurting his campaign by not doing the same. It really shows the inability of the legacy media to adapt, that they’re still seeing this election as relying upon the ol’ stump speeches and glad-handing in an era where many businesses are going out of business because their customers are afraid to leave the house.

chuck, how do you explain biden’s consistent 6+ point national lead over the last 3 months?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:31:36pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:32:27pm

re: #127 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

None of us are. We’ll forever have 2016 paranoia.

2016 really jolted something in the Dem ranks. re: #134 dangerman

chuck, how do you explain biden’s consistent 6+ point national lead over the last 3 months?

“Polls are gonna tighten any day now! And they were wrong in 2016! Boat flotillas! Yard signs! TRUMP COULD STILL WIN BIG!!!!”

//////

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gwangung  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:32:28pm

re: #135 Charles Johnson

Um….duh?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:32:29pm

re: #133 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Nate says Trump still has an 11% chance, which isn’t zero! Things do seem to be trending the right way though.

What gives me hope is nothing is going Trump’s way. I can’t remember the last time Biden had a bad cycle or day. Trump needs to take support from Biden and nothing I’ve seen suggests he’s doing that whereas Biden is getting some former Trump ‘16 voters into his fold along with expanding the electorate with people who either didn’t vote in ‘16, voted third party, or were too young.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:33:03pm

re: #62 lawhawk

Our state numbers (and local numbers) won’t be reported until later, but yesterday the statewide number of new cases was 1,169 (that’s close to 0.1% of the whole state in one day).

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:33:05pm

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Since last night’s report on coronavirus in the Panhandle, two more have died. Total deaths now at midday are 16.

I guess Trump ended the pandemic.

i said the pandemic is over
these people would have died anyway //
you know, just like people die from the flu every year

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:34:48pm

re: #136 Targetpractice

2016 really jolted something in the Dem ranks.

“Polls are gonna tighten any day now! And they were wrong in 2016! Boat flotillas! Yard signs! TRUMP COULD STILL WIN BIG!!!!”

//////

What I don’t get about the But 2016 crowd is this. Are we supposed to feel confident if Biden suddenly were to find himself trailing? I’m sorry but the whole going back to 2016 just feels like heads they win, tails we lose. Look beyond ‘16 and look at this possibly being closer to 1932 or 1980. You don’t need to be a polyanna to realize that Trump has lost a lot of support where he needs to win and yeah I don’t trust SCOTUS either but I think even a dickhead like Roberts would find it difficult to invalidate a considerable margin of victory just to appease the Trump legal team.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:35:55pm

re: #135 Charles Johnson

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Translation: “Glenn wanted to publish unverified horseshit as fact to help Trump, everybody else at the paper told him to get bent, so he’s burning all his bridges in order to present himself as the ‘victim.’ FUCK’EM!”

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Jay C  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:36:37pm

re: #135 Charles Johnson

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Wow.

The “burn” level on that statement is like “radioactive napalm” level….

And GG deserves every flame of it…..

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:37:31pm

re: #122 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m still not convinced Trump won’t find a way to win this.

he is not a svengali (he got lucky, once)
he telegraphs all his moves
he is a coward and he always proves to be one in the end

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Dr. Matt  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:37:49pm

Chuck Todd, Glenn Greenwald, and Michael Moore are all trending for being douche-nozzles.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:38:10pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

The further extreme a political party becomes, the more it tends toward genocide. (The same applies to religious groups when they gain power, c.f. the Catholic Church, Burma’s Buddhists today, arguably Communism, &c).

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jeffreyw  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:39:30pm

re: #125 KGxvi

It makes sense though, in a re-election campaign that vote share and polling numbers end up pretty close. Ultimately, a re-election campaign is a referendum on the incumbent - if you think he’s doing a good job you’re likely to vote for him; if you don’t think he’s doing a good job you’re likely to vote for the alternative. Unless the alternative is just fucking terrible and/or somehow worse than the incumbent, this just seems obvious to me

You have to figure in the “He’s a devil, yeah. Our devil!” fudge factor.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:40:11pm

re: #122 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m still not convinced Trump won’t find a way to win this.

Hitler was counting on his people’s army to win.

Then find some place to volunteer to get more people to vote.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:40:42pm

re: #141 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

What I don’t get about the But 2016 crowd is this. Are we supposed to feel confident if Biden suddenly were to find himself trailing? I’m sorry but the whole going back to 2016 just feels like heads they win, tails we lose. Look beyond ‘16 and look at this possibly being closer to 1932 or 1980. You don’t need to be a polyanna to realize that Trump has lost a lot of support where he needs to win and yeah I don’t trust SCOTUS either but I think even a dickhead like Roberts would find it difficult to invalidate a considerable margin of victory just to appease the Trump legal team.

I understood the worry earlier in the election, when there was still a strong case to be made that Trump might be able to ride a “strong” economy and social issues to a second term on a razor-thin margin. But towards the end of the summer, and especially after the conventions, I’ve felt that there just needed to be something major in his favor to swing the election. And yet, every time he’s been presented with such a scenario, he’s so badly flubbed it that it actually turned into a liability for his own campaign.

At this point, I understand hesitancy over saying that Biden can’t lose, but some of the fearmongering that has gone on to suggest that Trump will still successfully win is just…well, it’s outright embarrassing for the people suggesting it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:41:29pm

re: #145 Dr. Matt

Chuck Todd, Glenn Greenwald, and Michael Moore are all trending for being douche-nozzles.

There’s a common line between all these guys and they’re all guys who get high on their own fumes of self righteousness. Moore loves to brag about how he got 2016 right but he also got 2008 and 2012 quite wrong. And he’s gotten 2020 wrong too. The way that asshole talked down to South Carolina’s Democratic electorate after Biden kicked Sanders’ ass there is why I never want to see him again. He’s also been a huge dick to climate change activists too.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:42:05pm

re: #145 Dr. Matt

Chuck Todd, Glenn Greenwald, and Michael Moore are all trending for being douche-nozzles.

Let me guess, Mikey is predicting a Trump win next week and is already blaming Joe.

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:42:26pm

re: #138 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

What gives me hope is nothing is going Trump’s way. I can’t remember the last time Biden had a bad cycle or day. Trump needs to take support from Biden and nothing I’ve seen suggests he’s doing that whereas Biden is getting some former Trump ‘16 voters into his fold along with expanding the electorate with people who either didn’t vote in ‘16, voted third party, or were too young.

trump is conjuring up a ‘wave’ of unpolled people.
some hidden monolith of all and only trump support.
there isn’t one.

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Jay C  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:42:47pm

re: #147 jeffreyw

You have to figure in the “He’s a devil, yeah. Our devil!” fudge factor.

True: but President Donald Trump is a devil too far for a lot of what would otherwise be “safe” Republican voters.
And outside of the loony-left and the Bernouts (some overlap there), that attitude doesn’t seem to apply much to Joe Biden.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:43:17pm

re: #123 i(m)p(each)sos

But how much of Kentucky is like West Virginia next door - people who may still be registered as Democrats out of long habit, but have switched their actual votes to Republican in recent cycles?

And how much of that D early-voting advantage, real or illusory, will get reversed by Election Day in-person voting?

I mean, yeah, I want Mitch to lose, too… but that race still feels like the longest of long shots.

I live in Texas, and in Red Texas. I will vote for Biden and Hegar. Will they win? I don’t know. Does Biden need Texas to win? No. Do Democrats need Hegar to win? It doesn’t look like it. Will we do what we can, though, and hope for the best. This situation also applies to Kentucky.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:43:29pm

re: #149 Targetpractice

I understood the worry earlier in the election, when there was still a strong case to be made that Trump might be able to ride a “strong” economy and social issues to a second term on a razor-thin margin. But towards the end of the summer, and especially after the conventions, I’ve felt that there just needed to be something major in his favor to swing the election. And yet, every time he’s been presented with such a scenario, he’s so badly flubbed it that it actually turned into a liability for his own campaign.

At this point, I understand hesitancy over saying that Biden can’t lose, but some of the fearmongering that has gone on to suggest that Trump will still successfully win is just…well, it’s outright embarrassing for the people suggesting it.

Yeah it was different when the economy was better which is why I honestly thought a younger upstart candidate like Harris, the two Texans, Pete, Booker, or Klobuchar might be a better fit but Covid changed that for me.

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:44:38pm

re: #151 Targetpractice

Let me guess, Mikey is predicting a Trump win next week and is already blaming Joe.

Actually, he retweeted that video by Blaire Erskine after the Omaha debacle as an example of ‘THAT’S why Trump wins.’

He was apparently oblivious to the fact that it was satire.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:45:03pm

re: #152 dangerman

trump is conjuring up a ‘wave’ of unpolled people.
some hidden monolith of all and only trump support.
there isn’t one.

There was an opinion piece earlier this year (IIRC, over at E-V) that pointed out the fallacy in the idea that there was this huge wellspring of untapped voters that were going to power Trump to a second term. The idea was simply that there’s no way that every “undecided” voter was going to break for Trump at the last minute, that he was not going to get 100% of that vote. And that the more people he drove away from his 2016 coalition to appeal to that crowd, the more people that were going to the Biden camp.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:45:28pm

re: #124 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Why is Biden’s son shady? What actual reporting had there been? What did I miss?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:45:42pm

re: #152 dangerman

trump is conjuring up a ‘wave’ of unpolled people.
some hidden monolith of all and only trump support.
there isn’t one.

I mean parts of the media love to act like Trump has this sway with the black community. He doesn’t. In fact, if you discount McCain and Romney who were running against Obama, Trump got the lowest percentage of the vote from the black community of any Republican that has run for President since Nixon in ‘68. Yeah black men slightly prefer him than black women but that’s because of the gender gap which exists in every socioeconomic group in the country.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:46:23pm

re: #156 makeitstop

Actually, he retweeted that video by Blaire Erskine after the Omaha debacle as an example of ‘THAT’S why Trump wins.’

He was apparently oblivious to the fact that it was satire.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:46:55pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

“Great Red Wave”? Is he talking about the bloodbath that’s about to decimate his own party?

Maybe the GOP is going to bleed from its whatevers.

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jeffreyw  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:48:11pm

re: #153 Jay C

True: but President Donald Trump is a devil too far for a lot of what would otherwise be “safe” Republican voters.
And outside of the loony-left and the Bernouts (some overlap there), that attitude doesn’t seem to apply much to Joe Biden.

That’s true. My theory is the theory of General Deviltry, you are quoting from the Special Deviltry theory.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:48:19pm

Along with the MAGAts who are going to go nuclear next week, I look forward to Rose Twitter flipping the fuck out if Biden wins big.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:48:21pm

re: #158 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Why is Biden’s son shady? What actual reporting had there been? What did I miss?

I actually sympathize with Hunter and Joe quite a bit given my own family’s experiences with addiction.

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ericblair  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:48:47pm

re: #49 lawhawk

There was a throwaway line in Matt Damon’s The Martian where he claims Mars as his own as the only person to actually colonize the planet since he grew crops there.

There’s a good essay on the topic here by a space lawyer (which is a pretty cool title). I’ve been tangentially involved in some of these topics. So no, per the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, Matt Damon doesn’t get to claim Mars (the treaty uses the term “any heavenly body”.) It would also mean that you couldn’t claim an asteroid as your property for mining, and someone else could mine it as well as long as they didn’t start a conflict. Of course, the OST could always be amended by the participating nations, but I don’t think there’s any move to do so any time soon.

It’s come up a few times, so it’s clear to me that Musk and some other billionaires actually do think they will form their own colonies on Mars and/or the Moon for the express purpose of getting away from little Earth concepts like human rights. They want to be the bad guys in sci fi movies.

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b.d.  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:48:51pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

“Great Red Wave”? Is he talking about the bloodbath that’s about to decimate his own party?

One of Garrison’s minions.

grrrgraphics.com

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:49:17pm

re: #149 Targetpractice

I understood the worry earlier in the election, when there was still a strong case to be made that Trump might be able to ride a “strong” economy and social issues to a second term on a razor-thin margin. But towards the end of the summer, and especially after the conventions, I’ve felt that there just needed to be something major in his favor to swing the election. And yet, every time he’s been presented with such a scenario, he’s so badly flubbed it that it actually turned into a liability for his own campaign.

At this point, I understand hesitancy over saying that Biden can’t lose, but some of the fearmongering that has gone on to suggest that Trump will still successfully win is just…well, it’s outright embarrassing for the people suggesting it.

our champagne is on ice
we are cautiously optimistic

yes 11% is not zero. whatever the percent was last time wasnt zero either.
the only way he wins is with four aces up his sleeves
and knowing him, they’d be from a deck with a different design

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Dr. Matt  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:49:18pm

re: #151 Targetpractice

Let me guess, Mikey is predicting a Trump win next week and is already blaming Joe.

Close. He tweeted out the video satirical video from Blaire Erskine, thinking it was real, with the comment: “How did Trump win? ….” and then he continued on….

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:49:57pm

re: #166 b.d.

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I guess the nicest thing I can say about that cartoon is that the cartoonist didn’t need to label the donkey as the Democrats.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:50:58pm

WBTV, Charlotte, NC

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:51:20pm

re: #142 Targetpractice

Translation: “Glenn wanted to publish unverified horseshit as fact to help Trump, everybody else at the paper told him to get bent, so he’s burning all his bridges in order to present himself as the ‘victim.’ FUCK’EM!”

Maybe Glem will wind up at the NY Post.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:51:45pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:52:00pm

re: #171 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Maybe Glem will wind up at the NY Post.

Nah he’d have to give up that I’m an edgy ex-pat bullshit.

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jamesfirecat  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:53:04pm

re: #166 b.d.

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grrrgraphics.com

They made THE EXACT SAME cartoon back in 2018

Image: red_wave_trump_tina.jpg

How’d that work out for them?

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:53:20pm

re: #171 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Maybe Glem will wind up at the NY Post.

Heh, ‘Glem.’ Forgot all about that.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:53:30pm

re: #158 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Why is Biden’s son shady?

He stole money from a children’s cancer charity. Hunted and killed rare and exotic animals. Received multiple patents in China while father held public office.

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oh wait….those are the Trump kids.

NM

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:53:50pm

re: #167 dangerman

our champagne is on ice
we are cautiously optimistic

yes 11% is not zero. whatever the percent was last time wasnt zero either.
the only way he wins is with four aces up his sleeves
and knowing him, they’d be from a deck with a different design

Basically, he’d need to pull royal flush by this point:

- Suppress enough votes in key states that the margins either swing in his favor or are razor-thin enough to fuck with by other means

- Successfully challenge enough votes (absentee or provisional) that he can pull off wins in districts that are close

- Win challenges in the courts to either prevent recounts or shorten the period for ballots to come in by mail

- Prevent Dems from overturning his margins in other states through court challenges

- Basically win (outright or through chicanery) every swing state and pick off one or more states that are safely in the Biden column

I’m not saying this can’t happen, but what I am saying is that too much has to go in Trump’s favor for him to win.

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lawhawk  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:54:12pm

re: #174 jamesfirecat

I believe this is how that worked out:

The Ventures - Wipe Out

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:55:05pm

re: #158 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Why is Biden’s son shady? What actual reporting had there been? What did I miss?

Its just the old Burisma crap; you haven’t missed anything. I was just giving stupid reasons why undecideds may not vote for Biden.

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b.d.  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:55:54pm

re: #174 jamesfirecat

They made THE EXACT SAME cartoon back in 2018

Image: red_wave_trump_tina.jpg

How’d that work out for them?

Ha! Who said wingnuts were against recycling?

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:56:55pm

re: #154 Belafon

I live in Texas, and in Red Texas. I will vote for Biden and Hegar. Will they win? I don’t know. Does Biden need Texas to win? No. Do Democrats need Hegar to win? It doesn’t look like it. Will we do what we can, though, and hope for the best. This situation also applies to Kentucky.

cornyn won with 61.5% of the vote 2014
right now he’s polling at around 48% vs MJ (38% or so)

sure winning matters most
the trend though says something

trump also is maybe up by 2 or so
in 2016 he won by 10

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:57:42pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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Countdown to the announcement that Greenwald will take a job as a paid Fox News shill

At least one response to his Tweet suggests that, “because they allow free thought”.

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:57:59pm

re: #157 Targetpractice

There was an opinion piece earlier this year (IIRC, over at E-V) that pointed out the fallacy in the idea that there was this huge wellspring of untapped voters that were going to power Trump to a second term. The idea was simply that there’s no way that every “undecided” voter was going to break for Trump at the last minute, that he was not going to get 100% of that vote. And that the more people he drove away from his 2016 coalition to appeal to that crowd, the more people that were going to the Biden camp.

thats what i was remembering
couldnt find it

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:59:10pm

UPS found Tucker’s package after it was sent to the wrong place.

Borat 2 - Ordering 3 Fleshlights Clip

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:59:51pm

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Maybe the GOP is going to bleed from its whatevers.

They’ve been bleeding out since Trump knifed the party, and they thanked him for it.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 12:59:52pm

re: #171 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Maybe Glem will wind up at the NY Post.

I think his first stop will likely be Patreon or some other place he can grift the rubes by suggesting that he’s gonna start up a new publication that will be dedicated to “journalistic freedom” or whatever phrase he uses to mean “I can publish whatever shit I want and nobody can stop me.” And probably make the wingnut media rounds, presenting himself as the victim of a grand conspiracy to “silence” all anti-Biden journalists.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:01:10pm

re: #163 Targetpractice

Along with the MAGAts who are going to go nuclear next week, I look forward to Rose Twitter flipping the fuck out if Biden wins big.

Oh that’s NOTHING compared to the Parler Chernobyl that’s gonna take place!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:01:49pm
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Dr. Matt  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:01:54pm

Jimmy Page on His Vision for Led Zeppelin

For the release of a stunning new book, ‘Anthology,’ the guitarist and producer goes deep on several Zep classics, the excellence of John Bonham, and why he’s fascinated with hip-hop

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:03:07pm

fivethirtyeight.com now has Biden clearly favored to win 258 electoral votes, so if he wins all those, he can clinch by winning any one of the following states: Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Ohio or Texas. A combo of Arizona and Nb2CD or Me2CD would also do it. There is a good chance Biden will be able to claim victory early Wednesday morning.

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:03:09pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

Basically, he’d need to pull royal flush by this point:

- Suppress enough votes in key states that the margins either swing in his favor or are razor-thin enough to fuck with by other means

- Successfully challenge enough votes (absentee or provisional) that he can pull off wins in districts that are close

- Win challenges in the courts to either prevent recounts or shorten the period for ballots to come in by mail

- Prevent Dems from overturning his margins in other states through court challenges

- Basically win (outright or through chicanery) every swing state and pick off one or more states that are safely in the Biden column

I’m not saying this can’t happen, but what I am saying is that too much has to go in Trump’s favor for him to win.

and that’s
- an enormous coordinated effort in multiple areas of expertise
- requiring a lot of people buying in
- all of them keeping mum
-sprinkled with a fair bit of luck
- and everything, absolutely everything has to go right

has this gang ever done that?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:04:11pm

re: #187 🌹UOJB!

Oh that’s NOTHING compared to the Parler Chernobyl that’s gonna take place!

Isn’t that like if a tree crashes in the forest and no one hears it though? Parler may well be Conservpedia, the MAGA dating website, or Reaganbook. The thing that wingers don’t get is no one wants a platform that just confirms to their political identity. I use Spotify no problem even though it platforms right wing assholes.

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Renaissance_Man  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:04:45pm

re: #149 Targetpractice

I understood the worry earlier in the election, when there was still a strong case to be made that Trump might be able to ride a “strong” economy and social issues to a second term on a razor-thin margin. But towards the end of the summer, and especially after the conventions, I’ve felt that there just needed to be something major in his favor to swing the election. And yet, every time he’s been presented with such a scenario, he’s so badly flubbed it that it actually turned into a liability for his own campaign.

At this point, I understand hesitancy over saying that Biden can’t lose, but some of the fearmongering that has gone on to suggest that Trump will still successfully win is just…well, it’s outright embarrassing for the people suggesting it.

I really don’t want to present endless pessimism either, but I think there are a few valid reasons to worry.

1) Polls mean nothing.
1a) One reason polls mean nothing is that polls do not equal votes. People might not vote. They might change their mind. They might make a mistake that invalidates their vote. And even if they vote and do it right, Republicans can and will discard votes, either by disenfranchising the voter or by simply throwing it away post facto.
1b) Another reason polls mean nothing is that, to put it bluntly, Trumpers are liars. Their massive dishonesty is central to their identity. Lying to pollsters or the media is a mark of honour.

2) America is a nation built around the idea that power rests in the hands of a very few, a very select, privileged class. The idea that power comes from the people is quaint, a little myth Americans tell themselves to justify the white male oligarchy they live in. The power centres in the country are its wealthy elites and the giant media conglomerates that keep the populace in line, and their support for the current regime have never faltered.

3) Blatant voter suppression and electoral fraud has already been done for years and America has done nothing. Just like everything else in the Trump era, saying the quiet part out loud and committing crimes in the open won’t carry any consequences. Tossing votes, stopping counting, overturning results, or even just declaring victory in defiance of reality - these would not be possible in other places where rule of law matters and reality is consensual. But in America, laws don’t apply to certain groups of people, and reality is determined by what people see on TV or read on Facebook.

Look, I hope none of this comes to pass. I really do. I think there are many reasons to be optimistic about this election. But fascists don’t simply give up power because the slaves say they should.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:05:58pm

re: #191 dangerman

and that’s
- an enormous coordinated effort in multiple areas of expertise
- requiring a lot of people buying in
- all of them keeping mum
-sprinkled with a fair bit of luck
- and everything, absolutely everything has to go right

has this gang ever done that?

I mean this is the gang that had it recorded on tape that Trump downplayed the virus intentionally. They really aren’t clever. And don’t forget they still haven’t repealed ACA despite having the Senate the whole time.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:07:04pm

re: #187 🌹UOJB!

Oh that’s NOTHING compared to the Parler Chernobyl that’s gonna take place!

Definitely some subreddits are gonna have a Chernobyl-esque meltdown too.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:07:40pm

re: #191 dangerman

and that’s
- an enormous coordinated effort in multiple areas of expertise
- requiring a lot of people buying in
- all of them keeping mum
-sprinkled with a fair bit of luck
- and everything, absolutely everything has to go right

has this gang ever done that?

Another bit to keep in mind: His campaign is pretty much broke, which means any court challenges are either going to have been bankrolled by the state/local GOP or he’s going to have to blatantly violate even more laws to charge the bill to the federal credit card.

So there’s a good possibility we won’t see as many challenges in the courts as he might need in order to fuck with the final results.

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:08:03pm

re: #194 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I mean this is the gang that had it recorded on tape that Trump downplayed the virus intentionally. They really aren’t clever. And don’t forget they still haven’t repealed ACA despite having the Senate the whole time.

or presented a plan of their own
wouldnt an actual alternative plan that they could point to be a huge selling tool? “we’re gonna replace that aca crap with this beauty”

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:08:55pm

Lubbock’s “Mr. (actually Dr.) Conservative” sounds the trumpet.

m.facebook.com

I really hope expect that some of these delusional tools will die of apoplexy when Biden wins.

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:09:02pm

re: #196 Targetpractice

Another bit to keep in mind: His campaign is pretty much broke, which means any court challenges are either going to have been bankrolled by the state/local GOP or he’s going to have to blatantly violate even more laws to charge the bill to the federal credit card.

So there’s a good possibility we won’t see as many challenges in the courts as he might need in order to fuck with the final results.

ie he cant afford to buy the good lawyers ;-)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:09:23pm

Fuck Chris Hayes. Really. Fuck him.

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:09:50pm

re: #198 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Lubbock’s “Mr. (actually Dr.) Conservative” sounds the trumpet.

m.facebook.com

I really hope expect that some of these delusional tools will die of apoplexy when Biden wins.

he didnt say who was which

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:11:46pm

re: #200 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Fuck Chris Hayes. Really. Fuck him.

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Taibbi, Sullivan, & Greenwald LLC the firm none of us wanted. And yeah fuck Hayes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:12:34pm

re: #150 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Internetus interruptus here. Must be because the snow is melting.

There’s a common line between all these guys and they’re all guys who get high on their own fumes of self righteousness. Moore loves to brag about how he got 2016 right but he also got 2008 and 2012 quite wrong. And he’s gotten 2020 wrong too. The way that asshole talked down to South Carolina’s Democratic electorate after Biden kicked Sanders’ ass there is why I never want to see him again. He’s also been a huge dick to climate change activists too.

Very much like religious prophets or psychics. They amplify the hits and ignore the misses (the Texas sharpshooter fallacy), so it makes them appear as if they are prescient.

The problem is that con can rope in some people who don’t know enough about the person, particularly if they are presented as some sort of person with inside knowledge or understanding.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:14:24pm

re: #202 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Taibbi, Sullivan, & Greenwald LLC the firm none of us wanted. And yeah fuck Hayes.

He said Thiel should fund it and he’d read it.

He’s always been a Bernie Bro and they’re all fucking misogynists.

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b.d.  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:14:55pm

re: #202 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Taibbi, Sullivan, & Greenwald LLC the firm none of us wanted. And yeah fuck Hayes.

Having all those people in one place where I can more easily ignore them does sound intriguing though.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:15:04pm

re: #197 dangerman

or presented a plan of their own
wouldnt an actual alternative plan that they could point to be a huge selling tool? “we’re gonna replace that aca crap with this beauty”

I still don’t know what Trump’s health care plan is but I hear it’s great and better than ACA. But I’ve also heard this for the last three years. The thing is the Republican Party as we know it is a joke. It doesn’t have a governing ideology. It just has Trump’s whims.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:16:53pm

re: #204 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

He said Thiel should fund it and he’d read it.

He’s always been a Bernie Bro and they’re all fucking misogynists.

I’m hoping the Bros lose their influence on the youth in a Biden presidency. I greatly resent Sanders and his team for how they distorted shit to my brothers.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:19:48pm

re: #205 b.d.

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Having all those people in one place where I can more easily ignore them does sound intriguing though.

None are minorities either. I hate that David Frum makes more sense than people like Hayes I once thought were allies. I’m sorry but I don’t trust most leftists. They attempted to subvert the will of the Democratic electorate and install Bernie four summers ago and this summer they smeared a good man as a senile sexual assaulter. I don’t want them influencing our conversation. I’m a center left liberal not a cosplay socialist asshole who plays socialist to look edgy when I’m really just part of the only white boys club.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:20:56pm

re: #197 dangerman

or presented a plan of their own
wouldnt an actual alternative plan that they could point to be a huge selling tool? “we’re gonna replace that aca crap with this beauty”

Given the constraints they place on themselves: that it cost the wealthy nothing extra and minimal government involvement, its literally impossible for the GOP to do so.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:21:48pm

re: #193 Renaissance_Man

I really don’t want to present endless pessimism either, but I think there are a few valid reasons to worry.

1) Polls mean nothing.
1a) One reason polls mean nothing is that polls do not equal votes. People might not vote. They might change their mind. They might make a mistake that invalidates their vote. And even if they vote and do it right, Republicans can and will discard votes, either by disenfranchising the voter or by simply throwing it away post facto.

Contrary to the myth that we’ve been fed for years by journalists who got caught with their pants down on Election Night 2016, the final polls were fairly accurate even if the tea leaves were misread. Hillary’s PV win was almost exactly what the final polls showed, while district-level polls showed that there was movement in Trump’s direction that state/national polls didn’t reflect. The latter is not showing up this go-around, while a lot of pollsters learned their lessons from the former and have altered their projections based upon that uncertainty factor. Even if the polls are as far off as they were in 2016, Biden’s leads is still large enough to avoid the sort of razor-thin wins that carried the day for Trump.

1b) Another reason polls mean nothing is that, to put it bluntly, Trumpers are liars. Their massive dishonesty is central to their identity. Lying to pollsters or the media is a mark of honour.

I have very strong doubts that there are enough MAGAts lying to pollsters to throw off the results that much.

2) America is a nation built around the idea that power rests in the hands of a very few, a very select, privileged class. The idea that power comes from the people is quaint, a little myth Americans tell themselves to justify the white male oligarchy they live in. The power centres in the country are its wealthy elites and the giant media conglomerates that keep the populace in line, and their support for the current regime have never faltered.

Biden has cashed in almost 7 times more from the Wall Street crowd than Trump has this election. And the rich elite got not only a massive tax cut, but also 3 SCOTUS justices out of Trump. Saving his ass really brings them no further benefit, especially if he loses the Senate and thus the ability to offer them further cuts.

3) Blatant voter suppression and electoral fraud has already been done for years and America has done nothing. Just like everything else in the Trump era, saying the quiet part out loud and committing crimes in the open won’t carry any consequences. Tossing votes, stopping counting, overturning results, or even just declaring victory in defiance of reality - these would not be possible in other places where rule of law matters and reality is consensual. But in America, laws don’t apply to certain groups of people, and reality is determined by what people see on TV or read on Facebook.

The level of fuckery that will be needed next week to overturn that many votes is pretty much impossible to hide. And not enough of the key states that Trump needs to win are safely in Republican hands to carry the day.

Look, I hope none of this comes to pass. I really do. I think there are many reasons to be optimistic about this election. But fascists don’t simply give up power because the slaves say they should.

I really am beginning to wonder if I can continue to label myself as LGF’s Cynical Bastard after this election.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:25:06pm

re: #206 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I still don’t know what Trump’s health care plan is but I hear it’s great and better than ACA. But I’ve also heard this for the last three years. The thing is the Republican Party as we know it is a joke. It doesn’t have a governing ideology. It just has Trump’s whims.

Literally had no platform other than “in Trump we trust.”

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:26:40pm

re: #200 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Fuck Chris Hayes. Really. Fuck him.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:27:15pm

re: #200 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Fuck Chris Hayes. Really. Fuck him.

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Thus really demonstrating that the myth of the “independent journalist” is stronger than the reality that all such men are ginormous douchebags that left over “journalistic differences” (trans: Their editors weren’t prepared to turn their outlets into propaganda rags).

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:28:32pm

re: #200 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Fuck Chris Hayes. Really. Fuck him.

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Yes, but would he read it for insight or would he read it for the same reason some people here occasionally wonder over to RedState?

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BeachDem  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:29:49pm

re: #67 Dr Lizardo

JFC 🤣

thefader.com

So, obviously the Trumpites think Billie Eilish is more dangerous than COVID-19. And presumably, worse than Hitler.

I’ve never heard of “the Fader” but that’s not what the document said. Under Billie Eilish, the comment says:

Made a political statement on gun
control in 2019; will be a first time
voter in 2020; not a Trump
supporter, stated he “is destroying
our country and everything we
care about”

Here’s the whole doc.

politico.com

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:31:00pm

By the way, when it comes to the polls, I think part of what shocked so many people in 2016 is that it was only the second election in recent memory (and the first since 2008) where the PV winner did not win the EC. That led to this mindset that the PV had to have been totally inaccurate, which was the only explanation for Trump winning.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:32:50pm

I usually agree with Chris Hayes but WTF.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:33:51pm

I really like him. A lot.

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:33:57pm

re: #199 dangerman

ie he cant afford to buy the good lawyers ;-)

Meanwhile, Team Biden has got over 600 lawyers set up and ready to go.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:34:12pm

re: #218 Charles Johnson

I usually agree with Chris Hayes but WTF.

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Not checking facts is exciting!

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:34:28pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:35:51pm

Plre: #213 Targetpractice

Thus really demonstrating that the myth of the “independent journalist” is stronger than the reality that all such men are ginormous douchebags that left over “journalistic differences” (trans: Their editors weren’t prepared to turn their outlets into propaganda rags).

Sometimes I think the best I can do as a white guy is shut up and let other people speak their experiences. I went to two BLM inspired events in the spring or was it summer. I didn’t talk. I wanted to let other people speak. We already know what Glenn, Andrew, & Matt think.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:36:05pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:36:13pm

re: #218 Charles Johnson

I usually agree with Chris Hayes but WTF.

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There seems to be this rich vein of belief in corporate journalism that editors, rather than maintaining the integrity and respectability of their outlets, are actually holding journalists back by not letting them publish whatever bullshit crosses their minds.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:36:39pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:37:29pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:38:41pm

re: #219 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I really like him. A lot.

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I want him for Ambassador to the UN. It’s not just his gift for understanding languages but his character too. I like him too. He really impressed me when he ran for DNC chair and I liked his Presidential run too though I wanted more experience but hey he’s not even 40, sky is the limit for him. He’s got a coolness to him.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:39:51pm

re: #219 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I really like him. A lot.

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Harris/Buttigeig 2024 would be a helluva smart ticket.

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jeffreyw  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:40:34pm

Trump may need a Royal Flush to win but he’s only drawing one to Aces and Eights.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:40:49pm

re: #219 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I really like him. A lot.

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Love That Mayor Pete!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:41:44pm

re: #113 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Seems substack is becoming the place where washed-up and hand-waving web bloggers wind-up at these days.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:42:46pm

re: #219 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I really like him. A lot.

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I’m so tired of narcissists walking around with cameras pointing at themselves.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:43:26pm

re: #232 Eric The Fruit Bat

Seems substack is becoming the place where washed-up and hand-waving web bloggers wind-up at these days.

It’s basically becoming the dumping ground for corporate media hacks who think they’re worth way more than their former employers are willing to pay.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:45:07pm

The replies to this are brutal. Maybe Hayes hasn’t been getting enough attention. He’s got it now.

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sagehen  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:45:08pm

re: #158 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Why is Biden’s son shady? What actual reporting had there been? What did I miss?

He dumped his wife to marry Beau’s widow.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:47:20pm

Lre: #229 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Harris/Buttigeig 2024 would be a helluva smart ticket.

Their spouses are pals too. The thing I love about how Biden’s leading the party is how it’s a team effort. I just saw on his Twitter feed he has a video in subtitled Spanish voiceovered by Julian Castro. I’m gonna start calling Biden the Chief in homage to his and my shared Irish heritage. I just really like Biden’s style of leadership. It’s comforting in so many ways.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:48:24pm

re: #236 sagehen

He dumped his wife to marry Beau’s widow.

Seriously? This is the big deal?

I just fucking can’t right now.

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jaunte  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:48:28pm

re: #57 🌹UOJB!

Dear Nate:

Love how that snake chart gets bluer all the time!

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Come on, Texas.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:49:33pm

And because I’ve had my fill of CAN’T, I’m leaving for a while. I’m in a bad headspace.

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carey94tt  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:50:17pm

re: #27 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m pretty sure Joe purposely let’s go of the handrail and trots down the stairs just to annoy Trump

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Unfortunately it’s not safe. A fall could be deadly. Always use the handrails when coming down stairs. Maybe after the Nov 4th he can be a little more safe. :)

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:50:51pm

re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m thinking someone was told that he was no longer wanted

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Is it finally safe now to consider The Intercept as a credible source of information?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:51:58pm

Llre: #242 Hecuba’s daughter

Is it finally safe now to consider The Intercept as a credible source of information?

Maybe if they fire Ryan Grim. And even if then meh.

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b.d.  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:52:47pm

Somebody pissed Frum off:

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:54:24pm

re: #238 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Seriously? This is the big deal?

I just fucking can’t right now.

I always thought that was overblown. He was separated from his wife when he began dating Beau’s widow. As I said, I have a great deal of empathy for Hunter having experienced addiction on the other side. He’s not perfect and I hope for his sake he finds something new to do during his father’s presidency but I don’t think he’s a bad or sketchy dude.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:55:38pm

re: #190 NO SMOCKING GUN!

fivethirtyeight.com now has Biden clearly favored to win 258 electoral votes, so if he wins all those, he can clinch by winning any one of the following states: Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Ohio or Texas. A combo of Arizona and Nb2CD or Me2CD would also do it. There is a good chance Biden will be able to claim victory early Wednesday morning.

The route to victory clearly runs through NE-2.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

If you click “Biden” in Mr. Silver’s list of key states, Trump’s odds go down to 3%.

(0:53)

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:56:02pm

re: #232 Eric The Fruit Bat

Seems substack is becoming the place where washed-up and hand-waving web bloggers wind-up at these days.

There are a few people there worth following - Greg Olear and Aimee Vanderpool are both very good reads.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:56:34pm

re: #244 b.d.

Somebody pissed Frum off:

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He’s right. I don’t like being in an alliance with him either :). But he’s definitely right about the far left and how they enable Trump through their hatred of “centrists” aka liberals who know what the fuck they’re talking about and getting shit done.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:57:32pm

re: #200 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:58:05pm

re: #249 Eric The Fruit Bat

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www.whitebreadtakes.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 29, 2020 • 1:59:53pm

re: #196 Targetpractice

Another bit to keep in mind: His campaign is pretty much broke, which means any court challenges are either going to have been bankrolled by the state/local GOP or he’s going to have to blatantly violate even more laws to charge the bill to the federal credit card.

So there’s a good possibility we won’t see as many challenges in the courts as he might need in order to fuck with the final results.

All that money stolen from the Wisc. GOP doesn’t help either.

I don’t sanction theft, but if they haven’t got the money because they couldn’t secure the backend of their computer systems, then they can’t mount a challenge.

The national GOP isn’t doing really well with money either, though there’s nothing which would prevent a bunch of deep-pocket GOP donors to fund challenges.

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:01:02pm

re: #13 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I suppose that will be an actual Libertarian Utopia on Mars where everything is owned by private hands ..and literally even your air can be turned off at will if you succeed in pissing off the owner.

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steve_davis  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:01:23pm

re: #73 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

not gonna get many A-list names with a budget like that…

danny boniduci, potzy, maybe. the first kid that played bass for the partridge family, before he got fired after season one for being a dick.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:02:33pm

re: #198 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Lubbock’s “Mr. (actually Dr.) Conservative” sounds the trumpet.

m.facebook.com

I really hope expect that some of these delusional tools will die of apoplexy when Biden wins.

Next Tuesday is the most important day in the history of our Judeo-Christian nation. The stark choice is between Good and Evil, between a nation of exceptional free people leading mankind to a remarkable destiny or a Marxist latrine filled with slavery, suffering, and death.

It really is projection with conservatives always.

We’re working on repealing the slavery clause of our state constitution here, Mr. Dingus. One put in by conservatives.

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:03:28pm

re: #251 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

All that money stolen from the Wisc. GOP doesn’t help either.

I don’t sanction theft, but if they haven’t got the money because they couldn’t secure the backend of their computer systems, then they can’t mount a challenge.

The national GOP isn’t doing really well with money either, though there’s nothing which would prevent a bunch of deep-pocket GOP donors to fund challenges.

But you gotta wonder - after dumping hundreds of millions of bucks into this campaign (Adelson ponied up $75 mil last week IIRC), at which point do they say enough is enough?

Is it worth another couple of hundred million to back Trump, who is clearly toxic at this point? Or do they keep the checkbook in their pocket until the next conservative savior comes along?

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:03:31pm

re: #220 makeitstop

Meanwhile, Team Biden has got over 600 lawyers set up and ready to go.

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exactly
quietly
behind the scenes
they’ve gamed all this out properly

so we have the freedom to sit here on our web sites and pretend we’re the first ones to think this stuff up and hope ‘someone’s’ got it covered

hah

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:04:19pm

re: #236 sagehen

He dumped his wife to marry Beau’s widow.

I think he only dated Hallie. He married someone else.

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retired cynic  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:06:47pm

Trump Regime Won’t Confirm a WTO Director, JM Ashby on Bob Cesca dot com.

As you may know, the Trump regime has already crippled the World Trade Organization (WTO) by refusing to consent to the appointment of any new judges to the trade body’s appellate court. Appellate judges served fixed terms and after several judges saw their terms expire, Trump’s regime refused to confirm their replacements. The appellate court requires at least three judges to issue new decisions and it currently only has one.

But the WTO has other and even bigger positions that need to be filled including the organization’s chief director.

The Trump regime is now refusing to confirm a new director supported by virtually everyone else.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:08:39pm

re: #247 makeitstop
Damning with faint praise, as it were….

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:09:22pm

re: #251 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

All that money stolen from the Wisc. GOP doesn’t help either.

I don’t sanction theft, but if they haven’t got the money because they couldn’t secure the backend of their computer systems, then they can’t mount a challenge.

The national GOP isn’t doing really well with money either, though there’s nothing which would prevent a bunch of deep-pocket GOP donors to fund challenges.

i havent read the story but how was the money ‘stolen’?
i mean it was real money, in a bank?
so someone hacked their computers, found the passwords and got access to one of the too big to fails?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:09:52pm

They’re still around, for a “fake news” break from a bygone era.

ASTEROID STILL HEADING FOR PEORIA ON ELECTION DAY! (Goes to Weekly World News, more at the link):

HOUSTON, TX - Weekly World News met with chief NASA scientist, Banesh Bannerjee, to discuss the latest on the asteroid that is hurtling toward Earth on election day.

In August, scientists predicted that Asteroid 2019XPX5 will hit earth on election day. They weren’t sure exactly where it was going to hit but estimated that it was going to hit Russia (somewhere in Siberia) or Peoria, IL. As of October 7th, 2020, it appears that the asteroid will miss Russia altogether and the asteroid is “making a beeline for Peoria,” as Dr. Bannerjee told Weekly World News.

“We have been watching the asteroid closely and making calculations every hour on the hours,” Dr. Bannerjee said. It appears that the asteroid’s trajectory has changed. It either will hit Peoria or it will miss Earth entirely.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:12:00pm

re: #236 sagehen

He dumped his wife to marry Beau’s widow.

Well, that’s at least one place where Don Jr., can take the moral high ground. /////

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:12:06pm

re: #260 dangerman

i havent read the story but how was the money ‘stolen’?
i mean it was real money, in a bank?
so someone hacked their computers, found the passwords and got access to one of the too big to fails?

Wisconsin Republican Party says hackers stole $2.3 million from campaign account using manipulated invoices Chicago Tribune

MADISON, WIS. — Hackers have stolen $2.3 million from the Wisconsin Republican Party’s account that was being used to help reelect President Donald Trump in the key battleground state, the party’s chairman told The Associated Press on Thursday.

The party noticed the suspicious activity on Oct. 22 and contacted the FBI on Friday, said Republican Party Chairman Andrew Hitt.

Hitt said the FBI is investigating. FBI spokesman Brett Banner said that, per policy, “the FBI is not permitted to confirm or deny an investigation.” The Wisconsin Department of Justice, which has a center focused on cyber crime able to assist if requested, has not been asked to investigate, said spokeswoman Rebecca Ballweg.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:14:33pm

I’ve a strong suspicion that there won’t be as many court challenges as people may think. Or that the challenges will be carried all the way to the USSC bench as feared.

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:16:19pm

Lincoln Project presents Gregg Popovich.

You go, Pop.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:16:35pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:17:03pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:17:41pm

@re: #265 makeitstop

Lincoln Project presents Gregg Popovich.

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You go, Pop.

Best coach of his generation.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:19:06pm

re: #244 b.d.

Somebody pissed Frum off:

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Trump made a bunch of people confront the issue us Democrats knew: You can’t ignore social issues.

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:19:15pm

re: #268 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

@

Best coach of his generation.

And just an overall good human being. A little grumpy, but that’s okay. :)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:19:27pm

re: #267 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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It’s time for the left to tell Greenwald to go fuck himself and go back to defending Nazis.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:19:32pm

re: #267 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Baby throws a tantrum. So many people who’ve had at least three decades of birthdays are still infants.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:20:13pm

re: #271 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s time for the left to tell Greenwald to go fuck himself and go back to defending Nazis.

I think that only the horseshoe far-left haven’t done so.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:20:23pm

re: #270 makeitstop

And just an overall good human being. A little grumpy, but that’s okay. :)

Yeah he’s more than a coach, he’s a teacher. Coach Tomlin for my Steelers is cut from the same cloth.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:20:31pm

re: #256 dangerman

exactly
quietly
behind the scenes
they’ve gamed all this out properly

so we have the freedom to sit here on our web sites and pretend we’re the first ones to think this stuff up and hope ‘someone’s’ got it covered

hah

I said something to this effect yesterday. Thanks :)

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Jack Burton  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:21:13pm

One of the comments on Fark about the Greenwald thing:

“Never understood why Snowden picked him.”

He’s so close to a realization there, but just can’t make the extra few yards.

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:21:32pm

re: #274 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah he’s more than a coach, he’s a teacher. Coach Tomlin for my Steelers is cut from the same cloth.

I noticed that Steve Kerr was a guest on LP’s podcast, The New Abnormal.

Wonder if we’ll get a spot from Kerr before Tuesday?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:21:53pm

re: #273 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I think that only the horseshoe far-left haven’t done so.

Yeah I think so too. I see Cenk is whining about “centrists.” I’ve had it with the horseshoe far left dude. They’re ratfucks who don’t care about progressive goals. They just care about whining about the leadership not taking then seriously.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:21:56pm
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Dr. Matt  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:22:04pm

‘A Grown Person Throwing a Tantrum’: Intercept Editor Issues Blistering Statement Responding to Glenn Greenwald ‘Smear’

“The narrative he presents about his departure is teeming with distortions and inaccuracies — all of them designed to make him appear a victim, rather than a grown person throwing a tantrum,” Reed continued. “We have the greatest respect for the journalist Glenn Greenwald used to be, and we remain proud of much of the work we did with him over the past six years.”

GG just got publicly pantsed.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:22:45pm

re: #252 Florida Panhandler

I suppose that will be an actual Libertarian Utopia on Mars where everything is owned by private hands ..and literally even your air can be turned off at will if you succeed in pissing off the owner.

If you lose your job and can’t pay the rent, you get evicted right out the airlock. Freeedumb!

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:22:48pm

re: #245 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I always thought that was overblown. He was separated from his wife when he began dating Beau’s widow. As I said, I have a great deal of empathy for Hunter having experienced addiction on the other side. He’s not perfect and I hope for his sake he finds something new to do during his father’s presidency but I don’t think he’s a bad or sketchy dude.

What pisses me off is knowing that the fucking Republicans are going to pull every dirty trick in the book to turn Hunter Biden into Billy Carter.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:24:22pm

re: #279 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Really giving away the game by having Hugh “Trump’s balls taste like chocolate” Hewitt stand up for him. I still haven’t had my editorial published in NRO about how WF Buckley was a blue blood asshole who got his ass handed to him by James Baldwin.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:25:09pm

re: #264 Targetpractice

I’ve a strong suspicion that there won’t be as many court challenges as people may think. Or that the challenges will be carried all the way to the USSC bench as feared.

If the election isn’t close, they won’t be able to steal it, which is why everyone must vote.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:25:28pm

re: #282 🌹UOJB!

What pisses me off is knowing that the fucking Republicans are going to pull every dirty trick in the book to turn Hunter Biden into Billy Carter.

They’re trying to get him to relapse. It’s sick.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:28:05pm

I missed this haha.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:28:29pm

re: #282 🌹UOJB!

What pisses me off is knowing that the fucking Republicans are going to pull every dirty trick in the book to turn Hunter Biden into Billy Carter.

If Trump’s Covid mishandling isn’t forgotten, it doesn’t matter what those shitbirds do. The claims of maniacs have no value.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:29:47pm

re: #267 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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For those who either can’t read the link or tl;dr, Glenn’s editor basically tells him that his story is so full of conjecture and raw bullshit that they can’t publish it as-is, Glenn basically pulls a “DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!” response, his editor tells him that they’re not bending to his will, and he quits in a massive tantrum.

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:29:48pm

re: #263 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

1 year from now, after the Biden Administration has cleaned house and started investigations and legal proceedings, the entire world will be aghast at the level of criminality, contempt for the law, and open hostility to any sort of decency by hundreds of department directors, campaign staff and government loyalists under Trump. Hundreds or people are going to jail. Several $Billions of taxpayer funds and Trump Campaign accounts will have vanished never to be seen again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:31:21pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:32:48pm
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Jack Burton  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:33:43pm

re: #264 Targetpractice

I’ve a strong suspicion that there won’t be as many court challenges as people may think. Or that the challenges will be carried all the way to the USSC bench as feared.

Part of clownstick’s problem, is going to be “forfeiture by wrongdoing”. A law student could win the case against him. *I* could win the case and I’m not a lawyer.

He can’t bitch about the election results after telling his clowns to commit voter fraud out loud, on camera, for months. Even in this environment it will get laughed out of court.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:34:28pm

Lre: #291 Dread Pirate Ron

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I’m convinced that Putin pays this fraud.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:34:50pm

re: #291 Dread Pirate Ron

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“First they came for Assange and I said nothing…”

Because that POS was so far up Putin’s ass that he knew what the man had for breakfast.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:35:29pm

re: #292 Jack Burton

Part of clownstick’s problem, is going to be “forfeiture by wrongdoing”. A law student could win the case against him. *I* could win the case and I’m not a lawyer.

He can’t bitch about the election results after telling his clowns to commit voter fraud out loud, on camera, for months. Even in this environment it will get laughed out of court.

Yeah “ I don’t like these results” isn’t going to fly with most judges.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:36:49pm

re: #294 Targetpractice

“First they came for Assange and I said nothing…”

Because that POS was so far up Putin’s ass that he knew what the man had for breakfast.

Assenge. Yet another example of the far left’s shitty judgment of character. The problem with the far left horseshoes is they think they know better but they act just as ignorant as the Tea Party.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:37:26pm

(1:00)

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ericblair  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:38:40pm

re: #294 Targetpractice

“First they came for Assange and I said nothing…”

Because that POS was so far up Putin’s ass that he knew what the man had for breakfast.

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Targetpractice  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:40:00pm

re: #296 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Assenge. Yet another example of the far left’s shitty judgment of character. The problem with the far left horseshoes is they think they know better but they act just as ignorant as the Tea Party.

The sad reality of the past 2 decades is that there was too much confirmation bias working in favor of shitheels like Greenwald, Assange, and Snowden. Too many people with their own agendas happily latching onto any story that painted the government in the worst light, even if it was being done with the help of persons or organizations acting in bad faith.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:40:56pm

re: #299 Targetpractice

The sad reality of the past 2 decades is that there was too much confirmation bias working in favor of shitheels like Greenwald, Assange, and Snowden. Too many people with their own agendas happily latching onto any story that painted the government in the worst light, even if it was being done with the help of persons or organizations acting in bad faith.

The Bush Administration made it easy for these assholes.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:41:17pm

Oh dear. Just got called on my cell by NYS Covid Contact Tracing.

UFtF3V6T8beYWsE0dAGvx8H9g9IRRCxcHdm4KOLGn/fCCk6vs5M5RYjmAZh17CjQ8S0NYMzPViPT2sC9Z5mIlJo3XCJs2NutOlg4s0kql8b8SltGFUOOatzYJq0vQ1EQzLhZC3rLQVrFGTZeps3Bs0bXq+3awaox

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gwangung  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:43:09pm

re: #296 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Assenge. Yet another example of the far left’s shitty judgment of character. The problem with the far left horseshoes is they think they know better but they act just as ignorant as the Tea Party.

He clearly was coasting on the reputation of others with Wikileaks and it was equally clear that he was manipulating the release of information, which should have been a giant freaking clue.

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mmmirele  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:44:15pm

re: #27 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m pretty sure Joe purposely let’s go of the handrail and trots down the stairs just to annoy Trump

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I’m 17 years younger than Biden, but I hold the rail when going down the stairs and have since forever. I have ankles that occasionally “flip” and I By God do not want to be flying down the stairs unexpectedly. Sometimes I am barely touching the rail, though.

I’m jealous of his assurance.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:45:53pm

re: #302 gwangung

He clearly was coasting on the reputation of others with Wikileaks and it was equally clear that he was manipulating the release of information, which should have been a giant freaking clue.

Yep. It should have.

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William Lewis  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:50:51pm

re: #291 Dread Pirate Ron

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I’d almost be willing to sign up for twitter just to do the Getting Republicans Elected Every November thing as a reply to that puppet.

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:53:08pm

re: #275 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I said something to this effect yesterday. Thanks :)

we come for the pizza
we stay for the confirmation bias ;-)

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dangerman  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:54:32pm

re: #286 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

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I missed this haha.

these guys are good

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:55:44pm

re: #13 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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But heck. If he’s the one that lands first, let him. I won’t be going though. Lol

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Renaissance_Man  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:56:14pm

re: #210 Targetpractice

Biden has cashed in almost 7 times more from the Wall Street crowd than Trump has this election. And the rich elite got not only a massive tax cut, but also 3 SCOTUS justices out of Trump. Saving his ass really brings them no further benefit, especially if he loses the Senate and thus the ability to offer them further cuts.

Then don’t save Trump. All they need to preserve is a Senate majority, since a Republican Senate Majority leader is a dictator that cannot be challenged.

The level of fuckery that will be needed next week to overturn that many votes is pretty much impossible to hide. And not enough of the key states that Trump needs to win are safely in Republican hands to carry the day.

Why hide it? There’s no need to hide it - hiding it implies that there might be a consequence if they were caught. Just say, none of those votes counted, we actually won. Repeat every time you’re questioned. CNN will have talking heads on to discuss why the election is in question. The NYT will have a headline, ‘On Subject of Vote-Counting, A Political Minefield for Democrats’. Any old flimsy reason to discard votes will be enough. A few weeks of that, 51% of the American public will agree that the election was questionable. Even if you ultimately install Biden as President, the American people will see him as somehow illegitimate, and thus entirely appropriate for Congress to disempower him.

I really am beginning to wonder if I can continue to label myself as LGF’s Cynical Bastard after this election.

You never were mate. Even I’m not the most cynical person here.

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steve_davis  Oct 29, 2020 • 2:59:16pm

Is anyone else taking a kind of guilty pleasure in enjoying season 2 of Britannia over on Epix?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 29, 2020 • 3:06:29pm

re: #291 Dread Pirate Ron

Let’s see how long this stays up….

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 29, 2020 • 3:14:39pm

re: #301 i(m)p(each)sos

Oh dear. Just got called on my cell by NYS Covid Contact Tracing.

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plansbandc  Oct 29, 2020 • 3:24:01pm
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Sherlock Hound  Oct 29, 2020 • 3:28:27pm

re: #252 Florida Panhandler

I suppose that will be an actual Libertarian Utopia on Mars where everything is owned by private hands ..and literally even your air can be turned off at will if you succeed in pissing off the owner.

Jeff Duntemann wrote a short story, “Cold Hands”. A man working at a lunar orbiting station has an accident and loses both hands. His employer pays for his prosthetics.

Soon afterwards, he’s embittered by his company, and he has a problem: The company owns the prosthetics…

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 29, 2020 • 3:34:00pm

re: #281 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If you lose your job and can’t pay the rent, you get evicted right out the airlock. Freeedumb!

Bugs Bunny as station manager: “You haven’t paid your oxygen bill lately, so we’re gonna have to cut you off!”


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