my first thought is... ok, but we didn't kill anybody. Pakistani's did that...
maybe

We "kicked" a Quran? I'm moving to Canada.

The Horror! We should have cut off their heads...

That's okay with islam , right?

Oh geez,

Good thing I'm not a GITMO guard.

Koran would substitute for Kleenex and TP.

And Trojans

It sickens me too see our country bend over for these in-humans. Whats the big fuckin deal? They just kicked the damn thing, and now there is stink up the roof. How backward today's society is when a friggin book is more valuable than human lives. Sick!

Hmmm. Urine. Holy Book. Sounds like what passes for art in our more blue cities. Maybe we should nominate these guards for art awards.

Okay, I am off to riot... burn some local moonbat yurts and stone some old hippies...

Ed
Um.. I don't know about you, but I ain't puttin' my "little friend" in that book.

Aaakkk!

Kick the Quran, isn't that a game we used to play as kids. Oh, no that was kick the CAN. My bad.

And my second thought is...

who says we have to be forthright about a NON-ABUSE issue? Why the hell did anyone admit this? The media has no honor, is going to do something horribly traitorous with it, but that is PREDICTABLE. So... who made the decision to disclose?

Based on recent events there was the case for NONDISCLOSURE to save innocent lives.

Okay, just so I get this straight...

According to our media:

Sawing off the infidel's head with a steak knife: somewhat bad, but understandable

Kicking a Quoran: HORRIBLE!

That about right?

Didn't they sing Hungry Like The Wolf?

C'mon, we gave them the freakin' Korans to begin with.

Note to self: Don't give the bastards Korans...

baldy,
Damn you are one sharp cooky. I did not see it that way

/s

And in goverment they don't call that lying. They call it "classified"

...and for good reason.

So he kicked the Quran out of the prisoner's hands? Appaling, just appaling. Whats' next...unplugging his Cable TV connection so he couldn't watch his Al Jazeera network...those viscious bastards! Where the HELL is Amnesty International? I demand retribution!

12 baldylox

Kicking a Quoran: HORRIBLE!

I think that's about right...

Since everyone moved off last thread, let me just say I linked to a nice satellite picture of W. Caribbean tropical disturbance.

KS049 S 0000 18.00 -87.80 192 235 80 20.0 - - - 29.56

If that 29.56" Hg (1001 mb) is legit, that is a full blown tropical depression.

KSO49 is a hotlink to an inactive website, so I wouldn't bet money that it is correct.

Either way, it rains a lot at Swamp Woman's house this weekend.

19 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

Geez, no HTML?

Okay, show of hands: People that give a flying f*** whether the Koran was kicked? Anybody? Anybody?

Okay, people that are concerned that the guard didn't kick it far enough?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

OT,
How about the girl missing in Bali, not looking good. They were just talking about it on H&C. And did you see that vid of the girl getting kidnaped at here apartment complex. Makes me scared for my littler girl growing up these days.

Consider, if you will, the untold amounts of money wasted on this utterly inconsequential, excruciatingly trivial story.

But Charles, you don't understand. He KICKED...A...QUR'AN!

/MSM

Aw jeez...

When I saw the "splashed with urine," I immediately thought that some guard actually tried to piss on the thing...

But if you read down the story, the guard was pissing outside near an air vent and uring inadvertently splashed into the cell.

The distinction, through irresponsible wire copy reports, will be lost.

I agree with someone above that this should have been kept under wraps for the time being. Kimmit, the commanding officer at GTMO, voluntarily offered this information, and why now is beyond my comprehension.

Stay tuned to your local cable channel and watch the Middle East explode.

#7 just what i was thinking !
does not matter what happens to the stars and stripes ... but don't get your unclean hands on the muslim holy book.
i say they should get the damn book w/ the pages stuck together w/ man juice!

So when the insurgents behead Americans, we're suppose to do what...

20 No soup until its ready.

#19 Ed

Either way, it rains a lot at Swamp Woman's house this weekend.

NOOO! It's already rainin' at SwampWoman's house!

And SwampMan™ promised, I say promised to go to the track with me in the morning (as long as I kept my hands to myself so we could get there while it was still morning).

I don't know if this has been brought up before, but LGF'er rickl mentioned earlier that "Mein Kampf" was never allowed in POW camps during WW2, so why the heck do we allow the koran? I despise this politically correct war. On to Mecca...

This is the one time that the phrase "I could not care less" truly applies.

Oh lordy! Amnesty International was right!

It's a Gulag! It's time for the RoP to kill a bunch more of their followers in a riot. Excuse me... protest.

I figure if we dump a bunch of Koorans in the septic tank they'll wipe hundreds of themselves out.

HINDUS BURN KORAN!

Al-Jazeera?

*silence*

Muqtada Al-Sadr?

*silence*

Arab League?

*silence*

Muslim Brotherhood?

*silence*

Hezbollah?

*silence*

Arafat?

*silence*

Okay, I know. That wasn't fair, right? Arafat is DEAD.

Bin Laden?

*silence*

Well everyone, I guess it's OKAY then to BURN KORANS!

Hey, on MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND I used a STACK OF KORANS instead of CHARCOAL to roast our holiday hot dogs and hamburgers! To be honest, the KORAN-FLAVORED BRATS were a big hit at the picnic!

*

Hey Everyone had a few beers with Bordm met with Bordm today and everything is a go for the BBQ, I'll be emailing everyone as to where to meet in a couple of weeks. In the meantime everyone that hasn't emailed as to how many are in thier group, please do so that I can rustle the cows purchase the meat. ;-D

#30 Savage Nation

And then drop 50 tons of liquified pig dung on the "holy" black rock in Mecca.

I LIKE it!

a better story goes unreported

I'm concerned that the guard kicked the wrong asswipe.

I never met a Koran not worth whizzing on.

#35 Nam Grunt

Woohoo! Nam is back, the hootin' and hollerin' can begin.

I also notice that the news report forgot the apostrophe in Qu'ran.

Does that qualify as desecration?

Shoot, I did not even think of pissing on the Koran before I flushed it down the tolet. I feel cheated.

U.S. Confirms Gitmo Soldier Kicked Quran

If the soldier attended Florida State University(FSU) the kick, went wide right, anyway.

HEY! Swampy,

How you doin' darlin. lol

For me, the biggest surprise after 9/11 (which was my #1 surprise) was how the MSM seems incapable of thinking through the larger issues--like jihadism and what the Koran actually says. I knew reporters were stupid based on info I had about other stories--BUT I didn't realize that they were as stupid as they are.

Are any reporters from Newsweek or the Chicago Tribune reading this? Do you catch my drift? You are STUPID.

Let it be YOUR heads that are chopped off when the chopping gets closer to home.

OT: A batch of rare, Friday night captions

no but seriously we, The US, need to be lopping off the heads of these people. Not because we beliebe in that, but just to keep up with the Al-Joneses.

#43 ElCid

If the soldier attended Florida State University(FSU) the kick, went wide right, anyway.

You know the 'Noles are gonna be declarin' a jihad on you now, don't you.

Gee, looks like we did the wrong thing; clearly we should have behaved like proper dutiful Muslims and simply beheaded all of the prisoners instead.

He also said they found 15 cases of detainees mishandling their own Qurans. It offered no possible explanation for the detainees’ motives.

OK, here's an explanation: the detainees have seen the light and are angry for having believed the Quran. It was the Quranic call for jihad that landed them in Gitmo in the first place. It does not surprise me in the least that some of these guys are having second thoughts about Islam.

Maybe it was 4th down with a few yards to go.

The country would flip out if our boys turned the Koran over on downs. So what else could they do? Punt!

Liberals have to have something to be outraged over.

never mind more horrible events that take place daily in the Muslim world and beyond. A little piddle landed on the leftist's HOLY KORAN!.

excruciatingly trivial story.

Indeed.

#44 Nam

How you doin' darlin. lol

Well, I WAS happy until Ed loaded up a tropical depression with 12" of rainfall for my house and sent it my way.

Other than that, it's all good.

Hell ya'll there are only two college Teams worth a damn in this Country and that's Texas and Miami, move along no story here. ;-D.

#48 Swamp Woman

If the 'Noles can't beat the 'Canes,how they gonna whup ElCid?

Just teasin'

water balloons thrown by prison guards caused an unspecified number of Qurans to get wet

There you have it... somebody call the Hague.

TRiVial GitMo PurSuit...

I sooo want to take pages of the Koran - paste them to a giant canvas and throw dung and piddle at it and call it art.

If leftist artists can do that to Jesus and Mary - why not the precious Koran?

oh yeah - Islam is delicate. Better not.

#54 SwampWoman,

Swampy I read up and see that Ed has been weathermannin' his a$$ offf. ;-)

the thugs in the US military

/sarc

only two college Teams worth a damn in this Country and that's Texas and Miami

Texas is a college team...Miami is a pro team...

Good evening all. What's happening?

an interrogator stepped on a Quran and was later fired for “a pattern of unacceptable behavior.”

A pattern of "unacceptable behavior" is wide open, and may have nothing to do with his conduct toward detainees. Being consistently late for work is a "pattern of unacceptable behavior." So is repeated insubordination. In fact, there are a variety of behaviors that can get one fired that have nothing to do with mistreatment of those for whom we are responsible (like detainees).

I love to see the fire storm after FIVE confirmed cases! HOLY SHIT! All of a sudden five equals all of america, Bush, Israel, Hitler, Gulag, etc.. What a bunch of shit, how many innocents have been killed by insurgents, 12,000 was it?0 The lack of logic just confuses the hell out of me. I want to sit and chat with everyone who will read this report with contempt, grab them by the collar and scream in their face,"WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING!"

/rant

Nobody wants to know what I would do to a Koran.

Actually, I consider that a positive thing. People really shouldn't want to know what I would do to a Koran...

Asshats, they'll never rule the universe, but will we ever get rid of them? I'm not hopeful.

#53 Savage

Thanks. In addition to freaking out the followers of Satan, I figured out pig dung will help fertilize the soil and nice crops will sprout in the desert.

Dual use technology I think..

Makes me sad that I'm out of the hog shit hog raising bidness because I surely would have contributed to the cause. Oh, wait, I know a bunch of hog farmers that would be happy to contribute.

Categories in TRivial Gitmo Pursuit

Seething Muslims
Jumpin Jihadis
Panty Pandering
Goats
Koranhandling

It's Riotin' Time

Hell, I almost missed that. Lemme fetch my baseball bat and a couple of bottles of gasoline. Ululululululululululuuu!

Never mind the Koran--I'm more concerned about guards peeing through air vents. Isn't that rather unhygienic?

He also said they found 15 cases of detainees mishandling their own Qurans. “These included using a Quran as a pillow, ripping pages out of the Quran, attempting to flush a Quran down the toilet and urinating on the Quran,” Hood’s report said. It offered no possible explanation for the detainees’ motives.

i miss handled my quran a couple of times before... thats how the pages got stuck together

What complete and utter BS. Rummy must be pulling his hair out(or increasing his Scotch
intake).

I'm going to have a religious ceremony tomorrow and drive down I-10 and toss out pages of the koran, hope I don't get a littering ticket!

"125 Large Northern Lakes Disappear"

And you think gitmo is a problem, where the hell did they go?

#56 totally sirius

If the 'Noles can't beat the 'Canes,how they gonna whup ElCid?

Well, you got me there.

The Pentagon on Friday released new details about mishandling of the Quran at the Guantanamo Bay prison for terror suspects, confirming that a soldier deliberately kicked the Muslim holy book and that an interrogator stepped on a Quran and was later fired for “a pattern of unacceptable behavior.”

Well cry me a friggin' river. Jihadists are decapitating and blowing up civilians, raping, torturing, and murdering their own women, building a large recruit base in Europe that will easily infiltrate the United States, and THIS is what we're all getting in a twist about? The whole world's gone completely insane. The government shouldn't even PRETEND to care about stupid trivial garbage like this, and get on with the business of killing jihadists or locking them up for good.

BTW, when did people start spelling "Koran" as "Quran." Isn't that rather ignorant? We don't call Egypt "Al Misr." We don't call Germany "Deutschland." We don't call Spain "Espana." We don't call Greece "Hellas."

Is "Quran" some kind of foreign spelling that we're repeating here? Does that mean that we're actually Kufirs? That's what they call us.

I say--"Speaka da Inglish!"

Zut alors!

/end rant

two words for profanity inside of a koran?

maybe it was "Jesus Saves"?

Hi Sarah D.

Good evening all. What's happening?

We're gonna riot!

By the way, where are all the Islamic POW camps for our people? I guess you don't need to follow the Geneva Convention if you don't take prisoners in the 1st place.

LOL!

French Fighter Jets Forced To Land In N.J.

POMONA, N.J. -- Nine French fighter jets and a radar plane stayed overnight at Atlantic City International Airport after bad weather prevented them from returning to their aircraft carrier off the Virginia coast, authorities said Friday.

The planes, low on fuel, initially asked for permission to land Thursday at a United States military installation but lacked the clearance number, said Noel Clay, a spokesman for the U.S. State Department.

--snip

There was a further complication, according to a broadcast report. One of the pilots tried to buy fuel Thursday and couldn't because he didn't have the available funds on his credit card, according to Philadelphia television station WPVI-TV.

For some reason, I find this incredibly funny!

#60 Nam

Swampy I read up and see that Ed has been weathermannin' his a$$ offf. ;-)

I know and it's a good thang he's watchin' out for me, because I didn't even know it was fixin' to rain.

Maybe I ought to turn on the tv ever now and again.

#71 scaramouche,

Not for those filthy murdering bastards confined there, nope I think it's a step up for them.

#67 really grumpy

If they pull another 9/11(which they will)the entire moslem population of the Earth won't be worth a squirt of piss on a Koran.

Liberalism will be dead 3 nanoseconds after the attack also.

Talk about not reading the hole report, Drudge was just on H&C and was talking about how bad it was that one of our guys pissed on the koran. They did not say it was un-intentional.

and in a confirmed but ambiguous case a two-word obscenity was written in English on the inside cover of a Quran.

any guesses?

There is more... We now have solid information that one American soldier LOOKED CROSS at the Qoran...
And then there is another who IGNORED it.
Muslims should be up in arms.
The ultimate humiliation! Will the outrage never stop?

#63 crossroad_blues

Why yes, U of M is a professional team actually :-)

This utterly bizarre story is the natural outcome of an utterly bizarre power-seeking strategy, the strangely selective global craze for "cultural sensitivity."
The institutional media are insane and most of the world is insane with them because institutional media values; including its educational offshoot, multiculturalism; still prevail in most of the world.

Only in the US has society advanced far enough on the media learning curve for a sizable percentage of the population to have become skeptical of, and even hostile toward, the institutional media. In the alleged bastions of cultural sophistication, Canada and Europe, the media cult is still in the prime of of its power, comparable to the US in the 80s. In the Islamic world, it is still in the stage of sqawling, feces-flinging infancy roughly comparable to the "Yellow Press" of the 1890s.

The decline of institutional media dominance has only begun even in this country, but it is still enough to produce a serious discontinuity of perception between our people and the enslaved masses of Eurabia. A sizable percentage of our own people, of course, are still utterly devoted to the media cult, so much so that they scarcely have lives, beliefs or personalities in any other context.
It will be a long fight. It is already bloody and will become bloodier still. The outcome is scarcely in doubt however. The institutional media are doomed, since their decline is the result not of political or social forces, but of technology in the form of the internet and the allied "New Media."
The media lords know it as well, and they are lashing out desperately in the vain hope that their moth-eaten memes can be revived simply by shouting them louder and asserting them more strongly.

Death to traitors, death to terrorists, death to Big Media.

What about the incident when the 'detainees' were masturbating in front of female guards at gitmo? Where they holding the Koran and with what hand? Hopefully not the dirty left hand.

Hell, I'm a lefty. Right hand is useless. I'd be slaughtered there.

{Iron Fist - hope all's well with you}

#80 Powderfinger

Before or after the penile implants?

#59 Uber-Lib

Speaking of art, I once had a religon teacher tell that ol' Mu-ham-ed spoke of compassion much more than vengence…if such teachings exist I think junxtaposing those with the most brutal images of Islam; beheadings, riots, abuse, rape, in giant ass photos, ending with 9/11 of course. I think ti would look powerful as hell, and although the compassionate teachings may be slim, the horrific imagery certainly isn't.

#62 Iron Fist

Personally, I'd prefer 475 kT of Bottled Sunshine.

That's what I like so much about you, Fist, you always spread sunshine wherever you go!

#8
It would be more fun to just get an old hippie stoned! :)

I like to call it a Koran just because it is less multi-cultural than Qu'ran.

The whole desecration fracas was an exercise in dishonesty, an excuse to whip up anti-American sentiment among the illiterate. The MEasterners can't possibly be stupid enough to care THAT MUCH about the allegations. Or, well...maybe they can.

Actually, Islam pracitices a kind of "bibliolatry" which is the type of idolatry in which a book is unduly revered in a godlike fashion. While Christians revere the Bible as the Word of G-d, they do not idolize the actual paper and ink it is written on. They also idolize Mohammed. If he is not revered in godlike fashion, why is it "blasphemy" to make a negative comment about him? Blasphemy refers to gods or G-d only.

Swampy,

I think you'll have better luck listening to Ed. ;-)

CNN leads with this story every 30 minutes outside the US (where I am now), as does the BBC.

#88 True German Ally

Hey there! Good to see you.

Any insight into the EU constitutional vote? If you have posted about it previously just point me in the right direction!

They were talking about this on PBS's Washington Week. So concerned, So serious.

Then they discussed genocide in Dufar, in the same oh so serious, oh so concerned tones.

And no one seemed to even notice the disparage. It was almost surreal.

#68 SwampWoman

Plenty of hog raisin' operations here in southern Minnesota that would accomodate the charming denizens of Gitmo. No heat in the winter either. They could snuggle with the swine for warmth.

Good thing is the ACLU types would never dare venture out this far into fly-over country to stir up trouble. Ain't got no lattes!

Insert Ned Beatty hog squealling voice from deliverance.

mmm...bacon

I don't really now how to spell the Koran but I don't know how to spell Gaddafi either...
Khadafi, Khadaffi, Qadafi, Qu'ada'fih, Duffy... whatever

#85 TotallySirius

Friendly advice, don't put money on either result.

48 SwampWoman

You know the 'Noles are gonna be declarin' a jihad on you now, don't you.

ROFLMAO...yeah...old Bobbie Bowdown.

#92 Sarah D.

That's haram, young lady. Let's just focus on death and destruction, shall we? You did hear that someone kicked a book, right?

Is this the FNDT, if so, let's kick some chairs over and get going I'm impatient!

#88 Sarah D, hello :-)

I did post quite a bit about the Constitution over at Rantburg the last days.

Peed on or flushed - it all boils down to toilet humor.

Now, if they were burned, ripped, spat on, trampled, stared at, handled without gloves, used to elevate the shortest leg of a table, or raise a monitor approximately 1 3/8" - now THAT would be unconscionable.

Look for my new book: "101 Uses for the Qu'ran: An Infidel's Guide". (It's a coffee table book with lots of photos.)

#103 Iron Fist

I say we burn the staff offices of the New York Marxist-Leninist Times for starters.

Indeed. They spelled Koran Qu'ran Quuran 'Q'u'r'a'n' wrong.

Allahu Fubar!

#74 Nam

I'm going to have a religious ceremony tomorrow and drive down I-10 and toss out pages of the koran, hope I don't get a littering ticket!

Holy Koran! I didn't even know they issued littering tickets in Texas.

That sounds like a good religous ceremony. I was gonna tear out some pages and mix it in with the hog feed at my neighbor's house, but he'd probably be all mad at me if it upset the hogs' stomachs.

#108 Powderfinger

Ya know, sometimes you are just no fun!

:-P

Okay - when does the riot start? I have to get my Taarna gear on.

Swampy,

Git-er-done darlin'. lol

He also said they found 15 cases of detainees mishandling their own Qurans. “These included using a Quran as a pillow, ripping pages out of the Quran, attempting to flush a Quran down the toilet and urinating on the Quran,” Hood’s report said. It offered no possible explanation for the detainees’ motives.

There was some Afghan fellas demanding a piece of these blasphemers. I wonder if we oughta let them have 'em. Maybe we could send 'em to Saudi for punishment...

#105 True German Ally

Under the nic you use here?

#104 Deacon Bleau

Plenty of hog raisin' operations here in southern Minnesota that would accomodate the charming denizens of Gitmo. No heat in the winter either. They could snuggle with the swine for warmth.

Oh, you from southern Minnesota, huh? Guess that's where you git all yore good ideas from.

Hello people (not the minions here). It'ss just a book! GET A LIFE!

Any trolls that decide to pop in tonight, let me get this out of my system right now...may you be driven with carnal instincts with 454 horsepower and allah freeze your blood a$$hats!

Someone should start a "Koran Desecration" website. Images of mutilated and humiliated Korans all over the WWW.

Insensitive, sure. But doesn't ART and FREE SPEECH trump that?

One would have to be prepared to go into hiding. But it would be worth it just to see the look of horror on leftist and Islamofascist faces.
and it would probably start WWIII.
(ooo - the war that stated out of Islamo-humiliation...
and leftist indignation.)

Best movie bar fight scene ever; when Taarna interrupts the spud boys playing "We're Through Being Cool."

#105 True German Ally

I don't really now how to spell the Koran but I don't know how to spell Gaddafi either...
Khadafi, Khadaffi, Qadafi, Qu'ada'fih, Duffy... whatever

But however you spell it, his clothes are always fabulous.

Right on Nam!

#93 No User
Total agreement! Although entirely gruesome and violent, someone should do it.

#121 Nam

Any trolls that decide to pop in tonight, let me get this out of my system right now...may you be driven with carnal instincts with 454 horsepower and allah freeze your blood a$$hats!

*Starin' suspiciously at Nam*

Did you start drinkin' without us? Huh?

This just in:

Terrorists support Republican party!

Long Beach accountant Yasith Chhun, whose group is labeled a terrorist organization, raised funds to elect Republicans.

Drudge also said on Hannity that he figured this story got out because some news outlet had the goods and was going to report it so the Pentagon was forced to come out with it first.

Even just listening to Drudge (and not knowing the urine thing was a total accident) I just couldn't bring myself to give a flying f*ck.

I am reaching the end of my string with the government falling over itself about the Koran. The troops should be told to handle the the Bible, the Torah and the Koran all the same way. Ask the soldier if he/she is Christian/Jewish/Muslim/whatever then tell them to handle the Koran with the same respect the show their religious text. Pay them all the same respect, no less and certainly no more.

We are winding ourselves into little knots over this cr*p with the Koran and the detainess and their treatment and it needs to stop. Which part of freaking terrorist don't people understand!

I am really upset with Bush and Rice for their lickspittle kowtowing over this nonsense. Muslims do not treat the Bible and the Torah with any respect and I see no reason why we should fall over backwards to respect the Koran.

OK...now I'm pissed. Why in G-d's name is the military being pressured into revealing anything regarding this so-called scandal? We're dealing with liars and murderers here folks! HELLO?. I understand that we, as a society like to hold ourselves to a higher standard but these revelations (however trivial) serve no other purpose than to help fan the flames of irrationality. I'm sick and tired of leftist politicos, press and punditry intimidating my nation's leadership into bending over, dropping trou and grabbing ankle. It's nigh on the eleventh hour of a wake-up call...and time to start kickin' some ass 'n takin' some names. I think I recall someone...hmmm...saying (parap.) "you are either with us, or against us? Let the record show some resolve, dammit!

#123 Geepers

Did you get the picture I left for you on the other thread?

#113 SwampWoman,

Ever heard of 'Don't Mess with Texas', well there is a $1000 fine behind that motto, lol.

#122 Free Speech

Someone should start a "Koran Desecration" website. Images of mutilated and humiliated Korans all over the WWW.

Yesss! I've been thinking along those lines myself except it would take somebody with actual computer skills to pull it off.

#118 Sarah D

Yes, I only use that one. Well, didn't write THAT much.

But I'll post here, too, if the occasion arises.

Anyway I'm glad the Constitution failed. It was a monster.

But I'll reject any Constitution that doesn't start with

"We, the peoples of Europe..."

#41 oilstooge

I prefer the Texas pronunciation with the accent on the first syllable, so I spell it Ko-ran. Would that be a bad also?

82 Sarah D.

There was a further complication, according to a broadcast report. One of the pilots tried to buy fuel Thursday and couldn't because he didn't have the available funds on his credit card,

Cheese eating surrender monkey, shoulda' used American Express

#127 SwampWoman,

LOL! No I got that from that thread last night about the saudi wimmin being able to drive, that's what some nut over there said about it.

#122

Someone should start a "Koran Desecration" website. Images of mutilated and humiliated Korans all over the WWW.

Find a host and count me in.

Only it wouldn't be a Koran desecration web site, it would be an artistic interpretation web site.

"Art Without Apologies"

I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Guantánamo Bay, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command...

They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off suras, cut off pages, taped wires from portable telephones to Qur'ans and turned up the power, cut off covers, blown up Qur'ans, randomly shot at Qur'ans, razed Qur'ans in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot Qur'ans for fun, poisoned Qur'ans, and generally ravaged the Noble Qur'an in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.

#137 Brenda,

Purrrfect darlin'!

Swamp Woman, I think Karzai is beating Gaddaffi fashionwise...

#114 Sarah D.

Whenever you show up, darlin, it's always a riot!

/just got my copy of "Jihadi Pickup Lines"

#17

So he kicked the Quran out of the prisoner's hands? Appaling, just appaling. Whats' next...unplugging his Cable TV connection so he couldn't watch his Al Jazeera network...those viscious bastards! Where the HELL is Amnesty International? I demand retribution!

AI is buisy defending people who murder the eeevil Amerikkans.

#139 Nam

LOL! No I got that from that thread last night about the saudi wimmin being able to drive, that's what some nut over there said about it.

Hmmm. Not sure I'm entirely convinced.

/Look at this! I can cybernag! Woohoo!

Islam doesn't have to follow the Geneva Convention because it isn't a country. I think we need a revision of the Geneva Convention, to demand they follow some rules for their own good. If not, the death cult of IS-lam may become WAS-lam.

#136 True German Ally

I haven't even looked at it. What did it start with?

Sarah D.,

Is that you?!

Can't we get these guys a grant from the NEA?

And better call the whaaambulance 'cause tonight they're gonna riot like it's 599.

Don't these moonbat a$$hats realize when it comes time for the rubber to meet the road, that it's the Veterans in this Country that are going help protect our citizens? *spit* and feh!

#134 - Swamp Woman

Yep.
Other that basic stuff, I'm not very computer savvy either. That and, think of what happened to Theo Van Gogh.

Funny that every religion under the sun can be made fun of in some way and it's considered fine/okay/cool. But no one dare say anything negative about Islam!

It's time to change that.

136 True German Ally

"We, the peoples of Europe..."

Wonderful turn of words...keep it, it may catch on...:).

#82 Sarah D.

OMG, Sara! That IS hilarious! And so very, very french...

To the person wondering how to spell Khadafi's name, it's spelled "Mumbly Gadfly".

#140 the heat

"Art Without Apologies"

I Like!

#143 True German Ally

Swamp Woman, I think Karzai is beating Gaddaffi fashionwise...

Yeah, but Gadaffi Qaddafi Khadafy Khudafi that Libyan guy will be bringing out his new collection of evening gowns festive middle-eastern robes any time now.

#144 Powderfinger

Hmmm, it's better than RebTex's lines. That's scary!

Sarah D

The now defunct European Constitution started with...

HIS MAJESTY THE KING OF THE BELGIANS...

Enough said

Swamp Woman...

True and maybe a new gang of female bodyguards...

Hi, folks. Long-time lurker, first-time poster, as it were.

Two thoughts about this 'story':

A) Has anyone yet seen a parallel story about 'Bible abuse' (or Torah abuse, for that matter) occurring in other cultures?

B) Why can some journalists only report a story at face value? Any article that omits the bit about the post-Newsweek riots possibly being orchestrated is incomplete.

OK, two more thoughts and then I'll shut up:

- Do you think Rumsfeld is a single-malt kind of guy?

- re: #72 Fraxinus americana: Is 'mishandling the quran' the same as 'beating the bishop'?

U.S. Confirms Gitmo Soldier Kicked Quran

I actually give more of a rat's arse about the Wacko Jacko case than I could ever possibly care about a detainee's feelings being hurt. And I don't care about Wacko Jacko at all...

If copies of the Bible were being tossed around by members of the cult called Islam, or if a Democrat were in office, the traitorous MSM wouldn't even blink about such trivial information.

#160 True German Ally

True and maybe a new gang of female bodyguards...

Who strangely are never attired in festive middle eastern robes.

Gitmo Soldier Kicked Quran.

That's nothing. Shimon Peres stepped in one... naked.

#149 Geepers

Goodness no! That woman has no tattoos!

Let me see if I got this right. Mis-handling of the Koran is worse than be-heading infidels or blowing up innocent civilians and children. OK, give me a minute to re-adjust my moral compass. There I got it. FU and your Koran, OK! May you live your life amoung camel dung. (Oblique reference to Arab culture).

#153 FSFÜL

Funny that every religion under the sun can be made fun of in some way and it's considered fine/okay/cool. But no one dare say anything negative about Islam!

It's time to change that.

A good place to start is with the forum at FaithFreedom.org. Those guys do a pretty good job of ridiculing Mohammed, the Qur'an, and the poor pathetic Muslims who show up to defend their religion from mockery.

Ali Sina, the guy who runs the site, wrote a great essay on how the true believer Muslims are so brainwashed that it's pointless to try to argue with them based on facts and logic. The only thing left is to humiliate and shame them for following such an idiotic cult religion. Even then, you might not change their minds, but you might instill a kernel of doubt that could blossom into full-on apostasy, if you're lucky. If not, at least you get them steaming mad (and hope they don't find you and behead you, that is).

#160 True German Ally,

I saw a picture of those bodyguards once, and they looked like they could eat platoon!

#155 really grumpy big dog johnson

It almost makes me feel sorry for them...after all, you can't help where you were born. Immigration is an option though.

#153

Other that basic stuff, I'm not very computer savvy either. That and, think of what happened to Theo Van Gogh.

So, you have an attorney act as the R/A for an artistic corporation, register the domain in a foreign country, have it hosted by one of those "freedom of speech" web hosts - and simply create an online gallery with FTP admin privs to upload anonymously submitted images.

It's do-able.

Know any really sleazy attorneys? Is there such a thing?

#159 True German Ally

You're joking right?

#141 Jake

Is that a quote?

#149 Geepers

Sarah D.,

Is that you?!

You mean that you do not ascertain the identify of the people that show up at your LGF BBQs?

Woah, identity

I see this as a positive report that should quiet the abuse stories by showing the infrequency of these events and that they are a rare occurance. A true testament to the good treatment these animals are getting. General Myers said in an interview-

We've had 68,000 detainees since this conflict against violent extremism started. We've had 325 investigations into alleged abuse. We've had 100 cases of substantiated abuse and there are 100 individuals that have had some sort of action taken, either court-martial or administrative action.

100 substantiated abuse cases out of 68,000 prisoners, thats an abuse rate of 0.14%! And only 5 dealt with Koran mishandling. Sounds like the military is doing a fanstastic job and Gitmo is a model military prison for enemy combatants. Bet the abuse rate the people were experiencing before they were captured was far higher...hell, I say they are better off!

Sarah D, no joke at all

[Link: europa.eu.int...]

And note how they have the CAPS LOCO on, like a Nigerian scam

Swampy, a friend of Rip Ford's is going to have a blogspot at the BBQ so the minions that can't be there in person are able to see all the hooten and hollerin'. lol

In other confirmed incidents, water balloons thrown by prison guards...

Since when did my junior high school start guarding prisoners at Guantanamo?

"In a related story, several prisoners' cells were TP'd last night."

#177 True German

And note how they have the CAPS LOCO on, like a Nigerian scam

Well, in this case, I think it would be appropriate. I thought the constitution was a scam.

#161 gearhead

A) Has anyone yet seen a parallel story about 'Bible abuse' (or Torah abuse, for that matter) occurring in other cultures?

To answer your question, Palestinian terrorists used Bibles as toilet paper and littered the floor of the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem with empty bottles of liquor and cigarette butts when they were holed up there three years ago hiding from the IDF (behind civilian hostages, naturally).

From the same article, in October 2000, after Israeli troops vacated the city of Nablus as a peace gesture, "within hours of the Israeli withdrawal, smoke was seen billowing from [Joseph's] tomb as an Arab crowd burned Jewish prayer books and other holy objects. Palestinians used pickaxes, hammers and later bulldozers to tear apart the stone building. The dome of the tomb was painted green, and a mosque was subsequently erected in its place."

I'll quote a few more paragraphs from that story as it's just so telling of how Muslims really feel about other religions:

Rabbi Hillel Lieberman, who lived nearby, headed by foot to the tomb when he heard of its desecration, hoping, his family said, to save any Torah scrolls or other holy objects that might have been left intact.

Lieberman disappeared. His bullet-ridden body was found the next day in a cave.

"[Hillel] was unarmed, wearing a tallit (Jewish prayer shawl), and he was brutally murdered by our enemies who want to erase our existence," said Yehudit Tayar, spokeswoman for the Council of Jewish Communities in Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip.

Hillel's father, Zevulun, a religious instructor at Yeshiva University, told WND: "If indeed the Quran was flushed down the toilet, that is despicable. But now they protest? The religion that actually desecrated the grave of Joseph, the great-grandson of Abraham?

"Nowhere in the parameters of humanity is it tolerable to destroy a holy site. The Muslims did something even an animal wouldn't do. Only humans who are completely sick with no sense of reason can do such a thing. And only a religion that is beyond the pale of humanity can sit back and not protest such an act."

#178 Nam

Swampy, a friend of Rip Ford's is going to have a blogspot at the BBQ so the minions that can't be there in person are able to see all the hooten and hollerin'. lol

Dang, Nam, do you think it is wise to have witnesses?

There I was, in Haiti with Duvalier's supporters, burning Korans for warmth and listening to President Gore telling the nation that I wasn't there. They were all wasted on rum and crank, shooting at me and taunting..."You're a rich girl and it's going too far cause you know it don't matter anywaaay. You can rely on the old man's money..." This humiliation cut me to the core of my being.

It was Christmas Eve, 2004, and my lack of personal wealth caused me an indescibable feeling of shame. I remember it distinctly. The way those flames flickered in the ocean breeze is seared...seared into my memory. It was then that the CIA operative I was working with told me never to sign Standard Form 180...

Well there really wasn't a constitution, like there aren't those 30 million dollars that need to be transferred

161 gearhead

Welcome aboard...ummm, what were your questions?...:).

This crap is rediculous folks, I hope someone drops the hammer on the aclu and ai, needless groups to say the least, I mean c'mon it's a book!

#184 Powderfinger
So, then, this is the FNDT!

Powderfinger, without the lucky hat?

#177 True German Ally

OMG! That's is too much.

DRAWING INSPIRATION from the cultural, religious and humanist inheritance of Europe, from which have developed the universal values of the inviolable and inalienable rights of the human person, freedom, democracy, equality and the rule of law,

Ugh. Well, it's toast I hope. Maybe they'll get it right the second time?

#173 Cartman

Yeah, it's a quote from John Kerry's famous Winter Soldier testimony about the alleged atrocities allegedly committed by alleged Vietnam veterans. I just changed a few words. :-)

Rayra (#163),

"Death, to all who oppose us!"

WElcome to insanity gearhead, we take no prisoners! ;-)

Google shows 303 related stories about this particular story of Koran (abuse).

I can assure you (despite the fact that 302 of the stories are within the last three hours, and 301 within the last two) that there is no evidence WHATSOEVER of MSM collusion in propagating this story in a blatant and crude attempt to smear the Bush presidency.

Trust me on this.

/un-crosses fingers

#112 Powderfinger:

"Allahu Fubar!"

I like. I'm keeping that one.

#192 Geepers

No, really:

"Death to those who oppose us!"

#191 Jake

Thanks. I was wondering which moonbat that was attributed to.

#187 Nam
AGREE 100%.

'Nam Grunt

WElcome to the insanity gearhead, we take no prisoners! ;-)

I've noticed.

Thanks for the welcome (and thanks to Elcid, too - I'll try to be clearer in the future).

Sarah D. (#196),

I loved when Taarna's warrior bird flies in to save the day.

#196 Sarah D

No, really:

"Death to those who oppose us!"

Bitchin' red boots. Did they come with the costume?

Sarah D

I have actually read the WHOLE constitution (and only reading the Koran was worse). This sets me apart from the German Members of Parliament who voted on it (for us) and provenly did not read it.

The funniest thing came from Giscard, who wrote most of that pompous stuff. He commented to his people:

"It's useless to read Part III"

Part III is the bulk of the "Constitution", a rewrite of all the former EU treaties, but which also sanctifies the undemocratic power grab of the EU.

#177 True German Ally

DRAWING INSPIRATION from the cultural, religious and humanist inheritance of Europe, from which have developed the universal values of the inviolable and inalienable rights of the human person, freedom, democracy, equality and the rule of law,

Guess the people in the EU have never heard of Ratko Mladic...

Water Balloon... 12 O CLock...

For Allah's sake, just take away the Korans.

No Koran, no abuse.

Did they hand out Mein Kampf to German POW in the US?

#200 Geepers

I've got to get that on DVD...no use fighting it. I love that movie.

Sarah @ 196

Awesome... when did you pose for this?

BBC Big Headlines reads: US Guantanamo guard kicked Koran.

This is nuts.

#200 Geepers

I loved when Taarna's warrior bird flies in to save the day.

I hope yer proud of yourself, Geeps. We have gone from the sober news of U.S. Soldiers once again humiliating the po' but proud and seething Islamic masses to a half-nekkid (squinting at photos) 3/4-nekkid woman consorting with strange birds.

I was just watching the Military Channel and in WWII General Bradley instructed his troops to not take German snipers as prisoners...He said that (rough quote here, short term memory loss due to the Karl Rove mind control device in my ass is short circuiting) "We will not let those snipers kill on of our boys and then drop his gun and surrender". Not to mention the "interment camps" for Japanese Americans. Did these Japanese Americans have legal representation? Is FDR as commander-in-chief, then a war crimminal because of these policies? Should he have been impeached? Why is this always a one way street? Just wondering...

177 German ally

WOW! Self-appointed Kings. What a barf-a-rama reading that.

No wonder so many said NO - must have made them ill too!

#201 SwampWoman

Actually, I made the costume out of leather myself. I borrowed the thigh high red leather stiletto's from a stripper friend.

#204 Bubbles

Water Balloon... 12 O CLock...

*Ducks*

Hey, be careful not to pee in the air vents, K?

#202 True German Ally

So what happens now?

I would rather bash filthy islamists and the groups that comfort them!

#207 Bubble Girl

Yesterday! LOL!

#212 Sarah D

Actually, I made the costume out of leather myself. I borrowed the thigh high red leather stiletto's from a stripper friend.

Oh, there are sooo many questions that I want to ask about that post.

But I won't.

#203 really grumpy big dog johnson

Some seem to have drawn their inspiration from some other European traditions not mentioned in the constitution...

Sarah darlin',

I had a stripper friend once but all she ever did was strip. ;-))

in reference to my #210,

Bad typing skills is another side affect of the Rovian microchip.

#219 Nam

had a stripper friend once but all she ever did was strip. ;-))

But did you ever actually ask her if you could borrow her shoes?

WARNING:

THERE'S NO EXCUSE
FOR KORAN ABUSE
THIS MEANS YOU!

220 superjhero

Bad typing skills is another side affect of the Rovian microchip.

Yeah - I noticed that same problem. But the chip does a great job as a moonbat detector ;)

in a confirmed but ambiguous case a two-word obscenity was written in English on the inside cover of a Quran.

I know how that guy felt. If I had been in charge the month after 9/11, the world would look like a bowling ball now. You can easily guess where the fingerholes would be.

Sarah D. (#212),

Actually, I made the costume out of leather myself. I borrowed the thigh high red leather stiletto's from a stripper friend.

It just gets better and better. :-)

#222 Bubbles

WARNING:

THERE'S NO EXCUSE
FOR KORAN ABUSE
THIS MEANS YOU!

I can think of lots of excuses. And lots of abuses, too.

Swampy,

Nope, but there are just so many things you can do with your clothes put them on and take them off, hell I guess I'm a stripper then! Kind of gets old after awhile. lol

#219 'Nam Grunt

Well, I don't think she had worn them much.

:-P

#161 gearhead
"beating the bishop"
is for infideals
as for rubbing the rabbi...

Bubble Girl

Never mind the suicide jihadists, kipnappers, murderers, bombers, etc.

you may not even think of contemplated the mere possibility of lookin' cross eyed at a Koran

...

Sarah @ 212

Thigh high red leather stilettos?

Sarah 212

Ooo.. Can I see?

The same people who defended Andres Serrano's Piss Christ are now coming out in droves against...against what exactly? That a book was handled by a woman, placed near television, kicked across the room? How can anyone possibly care? Why are we deferring to the bizarre fantasies of the enemy. We need a "Piss Quran,” that should send the Left-overs into internal conniptions.

#228 Sarah D.,

That's what I was inferring, they must have been in good shape. ;-)

Oops... [Link: 216.205.76.242...]

Tanker JD @230

This means you too, buddy... the Political Correct Police will be knocking on your door...

Oh the horror!

Kicking a "Quaran"

Sarah

So why did you dress like this? A new job?

#232 Bubbles

Thigh high red leather stilettos?

You want to know the name of the store, don't you?

Bubbles,

Like these.

Sarah D. Like these?

237 Bubble Girl

The PC police are pretty scary! I will be shipped off to a re-education camp to be "tolerant."

Nam @ 227

Taking them off, put them on, take them off, put them on... but it is the time frame... 30 minutes? 8 hours?

240

Swami Swampwoman... lol lol

re: stilleto thigh highs

I'm kinda partial to the black one, personally, ya know?

Here's one who got a clue while at Gitmo

In the most recent of those 15 cases, a detainee on Feb. 18, 2005, allegedly ripped up his Quran and handed it to a guard, stating that he had given up on being a Muslim. Several of the guards witnessed this, Hood reported.

Only stiletto I know about are the ones that the blade pops out of the end and you stick someone with it...or don't press the button! lol

#239 Bubble Girl

LOL! Halloween!

Sarah @ 242

Of course you had the necessary accessories... the riding crop?

/Kitten with a Whip

SwampWoman (#209),

Just trying to be my part. ;-)

LOL...same kink link...Sarah D.

# 223 satan sidekick

I know about that moonbat detector feature, thats why mine is shorting out, I live in a blue city!

Tanker @ 247

You have personally met a pair of the black ones?

#245 Bubble Girl,

30 min.? 8 hrs.? hell darlin' when it's time to shuck your clothes shouldn't take more than a min. lol

255 Bubble Girl

No, not personally. But one can dream, can't one?

Desecrating the Koran isn't even a crime, let alone a war crime. But the LLL will fight to the death to protect "Piss Christ".

This is so absurd, I almost cannot believe it. Time for the GOP to show some cojones here. Bush and Rummy are carrying all the water. Is there even one GOP Senator or Congressman to call bullshit on all this?

I don't think so. The GOP in Congress are a bunch of certified grade A wusses, real wusses. McCain, who ought to know what torture really is, could probably end this nonsense by making precisely that comparison -- but he won't. He sucks.

#253 ElCid

Damn both you AND Sarah! I had the same link.

Tanker,

Taarna wears red.

Tanker JD @ 257

Yes, one can always dream...

260 Sarah D.

Linky no worky :-(

254 superjhero

AHH! Living in Blue Areas tends to wear them out much quicker. Luckily I'm in Red areas most of the time. There are pockets of Blue that I am forced to drive through everyday. That does cause the chip to behave erratically.

#34 Jeffrey in New York:

HINDUS BURN KORAN

There's not much to be heard from the Arabs on that score, because the ultra-nationalist types among the Hindus are every bit as bloodyminded as the jihadis. The Mohammedan invasion of India in medieval times was probably the bloodiest conquest ever, and the Hindus have long memories of it. Read Will Durant.

Anyway, if Muslims ever pulled off a 9/11 in India, the Ganges couldn't hold all the blood that would flow in retribution. Nor all the savaged Korans.

Tanker,

Try this one.

Or this one.

I can only say...who gives a shit!

#222 Bubble Girl

Outstanding reference to WWII patriotism posters. Thanks for your sly and well-guarded non-sardonicism.

i wish i could stay up for the rest of this thread but its almost 11:00 on the right coast.
i hope my wife dosnt hear me in my sleep going on about red thigh-highs.
g'night may yer holy book be waste matter free.

259 SwampWoman

Damn both you AND Sarah! I had the same link.

All three, great minds...same circles...or however the hell that damn saying goes...:).

#268 Stonewall,

Oh c'mon now you can say more than that!

Night Fraxinus americana

Rayra (#265),

"great nyborg, man"

Look, man, if there's one thing I know, it's how to drive while I'm stoned. You know your perception is completely fucked so you just let your hands work the controls as if you were straight.

Really Grumpy @ 269

Thank you...

267 Sarah

Wow!
Those are pretty cool.

They kinda have a "shin guard" look to 'em, huh?

#276 Tanker J.D.

Your wife stays mad at you doesn't she.

Jake - thanks, missed your answer earlier. It just irritates me that journalists for mainstream outlets are so lazy.

Fraxinus americana (#229) - I don't care who y'are, THAT's funny.

The next American Flag that is burned will initiate the first desecreation of a Koran. I will personally put a Koran (the book of the false prophet) into the pig pen on my farm and once there is enough pig shit on it, I will light it on fire.

It's time to BAN THE KORAN.

It's the book of SATAN. Just open a few pages and you will be convinced.

Actually, all fantasizing aside, we do have to humor the Muslims who are nominally on our side. Orson Scot Card is right, in the course of this reaming of Newsweek:

Our country is at war. And it's a war in which victory absolutely depends on the Muslim world perceiving it as a war between the U.S and its allies on one side, and fanatical murderous terrorists on the other.

If it is ever perceived as a war against Islam, then we have lost. The world has lost.

So during such a difficult time, even people who think the Iraq War or even the whole war on terror is a horrible mistake still have an obligation of loyalty to the nation that offers them protection, prosperity, and freedom.

I mean, what kind of idiot breaks a hole in the hull of his boat during a storm, just because he doesn't like the guy at the tiller and thinks the storm could have been avoided?

... but mixed marriages just don't work. What if you get tired of me
and run off with a vibrator or something?

LOL!

#234 Right Brain

We need a "Piss Quran,”

That would be art.

There must be someone out there with a Koran who's been drinking water or beer all day. Beer would be more appropriate.

#279 Iron Fist,

Play? I was kicked out of kindergarden when the teacher said recess I said I don't play, and what do ya'll play? Strip Poker? ;-P

Harry Canyon: The U.N. Building. What a joke! They turned it into low rent housing. It's a dump.

Harry Canyon: "Stupid asshole. Nobody touches me unless I want 'em to."

I seek a drinking thread, because I have been drinking.

Is this it?