My first comment here at LGF. I just registered on Sunday. What a momentous occasion.
(fans herself)

I have to sit down.

Welcome, Laura! Put your head between your legs if you feel faint.

MUCH happier about this Chicago guy than the publicity whore on cspan yesterday.

"Civil Libertarians Are in a State of Denial"

Totally. Libertarians of any stripe.

Brussels moots financing Euronews in Arabic

In a bid to improve ties with the Muslim world, the European Commission is considering granting up to €5 million a year to news channel Euronews to broadcast in Arabic – but it has yet to find the cash. EU communication commissioner Margot Wallstrom told EUobserver on Monday (29 August) that broadcasting by Euronews in Arabic would be important in "building bridges" to the Muslim world. "In the climate we have had this is absolutely the right idea," she said after meeting members of the European Parliament's culture committee.

Maybe they should all become Objectivists, they get it:

There Is No Need for an Endless Global Conflict
Wednesday, July 19, 2006
By: Debi Ghate

Dear Editor:

Islamic totalitarians have explicitly stated their goal: to forcibly impose Islamic law around the world. To succeed, they will continue to attack those parts of the world that oppose their "divine mission." The United States, Israel, Canada, England, India, and any other country that places the least bit of value on freedom and progress, will continue to be targets.

The freer nations need to recognize the real nature of this enemy: an ideology that demands complete submission to Allah, either voluntarily or at the point of a knife. Do you wait for the knife to slit your throat or do you fight back and defend yourself?

The combined military strength of the freer countries is more than enough to eliminate decisively and definitively the assorted collection of murderous terrorists and the governments that support them financially or ideologically. There is no need for an endless global conflict. What there is a need for is a recognition that those of us living in freer countries have the right to take any necessary actions to defend ourselves--and that our lives are at stake.

Debi Ghate
Vice President, Academic Programs

[Link: www.aynrand.org...]

Funny, most libertarians I've ever met were decidedly uncivil.

One of the fallicies is that we ever had a constitutional right to use a telephone internationally with total privacy. Neither the words "privacy" or "telephone" occur anywhere in the constitution.

This is a constructed controversy, meant to whip up the fears of the ignorant.

Ave Titus! Ne cede malis

Someone look on the floor for #1
I think she got da vapors.

#1 Laura M.

That's quite an achievement, having #1 post be #1 in the thread. I don't know if that's ever been done before (at least since registration started).

#9 BabbaZee

Ave, Babbazeddius, quo valis?

Abraham Lincoln was confronted with the dilemma of fighting for the Union and an intact Nation or allowing a new Nation to be created in conflict with the United States. At the end of the conflict, the Constitution emerged, essentially intact, with an amendment or two, as did the Nation. This was largely because of the will of the President to succeed and do those things that were necessary to ensure the survival of the nation. The CSA did not have to win the war to succeed, it only had to not lose.

The Constitution cannot exist without the Nation and the will of the people to preserve it. The Sophistry of the left is outstanding for it's lack of morality and it's willingness to destroy both the Nation and and is foundations.

Denial? That would suggest they even see a problem to deny. These people are raising Unicorns on Gannymeade.

Titus, Locus poenitentiae. Luctor et emergo.

gotta go
someone's a-knockin'
I hope it's not Barnacle Bill the Sailor
talk like a pirate day isn't till the 19th
be back later

Charles can expect to be on the receiving end of a monosyllabic, mouth-breathing essay about the "police state" tomorrow on LewRockwell.com.....

#15 BZ

See ya later!

O.T.

Moonbat Salt Lake Mayor plans Bush protest, Mama Moonbat invited:

Offended by Rocky Anderson's plans to protest President Bush this week, the Utah Republican Party is waging a public-relations campaign urging Utahns to call the mayor and tell him to "stop embarrassing" the state.
And while Utahns have listened - flooding City Hall with almost 300 calls and overwhelming the phone system - Anderson hasn't.

Read the whole thing.

gynmast 13

The Sophistry of the left is outstanding for it's lack of morality and it's willingness to destroy both the Nation and and is foundations.

Exactly! And they will load their guns with the very documents meant to preserve our culture and way of life. Constitutional purists will hand them the documents with eyes glazed over in reverent worship.

Islamists are barbarians...with the same cunning as those that brought down the much more sophisticated Roman empire. Barbarians (by definition) care nothing for our rules and laws, the west is the only side encubered with rules.

Like an idiot football team that lines up over and over with only ONE play...off right tackle runs by the same back.

The argument is that we will cease to be a football team if we bend or suspend the rules. The obvious counter-argument is that we will cease to exist entirely if we don't get another playbook.

Our media coverage and way of responding is so predictable that even ignorant, illiterate Mullahs can figure it out.

#17 sngnsgt Rocky Anderson is a joke. He knows it, too. He's not seeking re-election.
He's the darling of the NewAge hippie types and gays and lesbians (not that there's anything wrong with that.)
/

#18, Jehu. I think a more apt analogy would be that we have a more than adaquate team and the ability to construct plays to defeat any other team on Earth. We seem to have a couple of players (mostly bench warmers) wearing our colors that want to see the other team win. We have some cheerleaders cheering for the other team. We have turned our water buckets over to the ACLU and they are shitting in them. When the game scores are published, the press is getting them wrong on purpose. Doubt has been created among the ignorant that we can, again, win the championship and crown for the Free World. Doubt is also an enemy of accomplishment.

Thank you for the warm welcome. I will strive to add intelligent commentary.

OT Islamist Thugs Still Gunning for Michael Graham

Posner is worth listening to.

I have "minimized" the Glenn and Helen Show page, and that way I can listen to Posner while reading the other LGF threads.

#21 Laura M.

Thank you for the warm welcome. I will strive to add intelligent commentary.

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Post it even if you don't think it's 'intelligent'. You might be underestimating yourself.

/Welcome aboard and fasten your seatbelt. The ride's bumpy, but never dull.

There is something seriously wrong with this country when I have to download a random podcast to listen to an eminent scholar like Posner while cranks like Walt & Mearsheimer are hosting their talk at the National Press Club, televised on C-SPAN.

Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is being made to watch his appearance in cult cartoon South Park while he is behind bars.

I hope Ramzy Clark doesn't hear about this : )

Was looking at an old set of British books I picked up "The Great War"published thru 1919.There was a very interesting chapter on the British
"Defence of the Realm" act [Google for a lot of info], passed in 1914.Man, the ACLU types would have had an aneurisym if they`d been around then.Among the measures in force ,rescinded after the war, it was illegal to;

Say or do anything which might cast aspersions upon the amies or other forces of the Allied Powers.

Show any films or pictures discrediting the Army or Armed Forces.

Pay for any intoxicating liquor for another person[even spouse or other family members, to conserve alcohol, 100 pounds fine and 6 months jail for violation].

Give bread to any dog, poultry, horse or other animal.
Police could arrest anyone without warrant,enter any premises on suspicion,government permission was needed to leave employment for any reason.

USA took similar measures , the Alien Act,several hundred anarchists, including "Red Emma" Goldman got to take a little deportation ride on the USS Buford to Russia.(See another interesting book on how the US defined civil liberties in earlier times, "The Last Days of Innocence,America at WAr 1917-8" by Meiron and Susie Harries,1997.

Hey Laura M., great to have ya'

#8 Earth2moonbat

One of the fallicies is that we ever had a constitutional right to use a telephone internationally with total privacy. Neither the words "privacy" or "telephone" occur anywhere in the constitution.

Perhaps the biggest fallacy in this context that the Left, Right, Libertarians, et al rely on is that there even is such a thing as a "constitutional right". There isn't. The purpose of the Constitution is to delimit the power of the federal government, and the Amendments are points of emphasis on the range of government power as it pertains to specific rights.

The Constitution does not, and cannot, exhaustively enumerate our rights, nor can it exclusively sanction them simply by picking certain rights out, like the right to own a firearm, and saying that the government can't violate them. The Constitution no more validates my right to own a firearm than does the existence of the NRA. You go to the Constitution to tell you what the government can do, not what citizens can do.

You'll find lots of words absent from the Constitution. But that does not mean that their relevant concepts aren't covered under the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, nor does it mean that they are irrelevant considerations. The Constitution doesn't say that murder is illegal or a violation of rights, but that doesn't mean it isn't.

Our right come from our very nature as independent, rational beings. As beings who depend on our reasoning faculties to deal with the world around us, we need the freedom to exercise that faculty ourselves. We have to be able to act in our own judgement, as no one can reason in our stead, substituting his mind for ours every second of every day. To secure this freedom, we need a mechanism that defines and sanctions this moral principle -- that names and validates how we can act in relation to others, who share the same need to be free. That mechanism we call a "right", and our need to have rights is every bit as essential to life as air is to breathing.

This is the fact that both Constitutional critics and supporters miss. The Constitution doesn't lay out for you under what conditions you can tap somebody's phone. It simply says, the government can't stop you from exercising your right to speak. But implied in that is that your speech won't violate the rights of others. When it does, as fraudulently yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater does, you lose. You've crossed the line by using your rights to violate others' rights, and when you talk to terrorists, whether foreign or domestic, that's exactly what you're doing.

29 Lazarus
HELL yeah!

Laura M. #1 Welcome.
You know traditionally the new kid buys drinks for evereyone.

#32 rayra

Then there is the pot-smoker anarchist yout wing of the Libertarian Party, who call themselves Libertarians, but are in actuality Libertarian Socialists.

Why stop there? Why not go for the full enchelada, and go for the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party. You can be a libertarian, a Nazi, and an envirofascist (literally) all at the same time.

Posner is a true icon of the University of Chicago-born principle of economics-based legal studies. Interesting stuff.

re: #1 Laura

welcome! comment away, dearie! =)

re #29 Lazarus

THAT is a terrific point, dear sir! thank you for the reminder.

"The choice is not between order and liberty. It is between liberty with order and anarchy without either. There is danger that, if the court does not temper its doctrinaire logic with a little practical wisdom, it will convert the constitutional Bill of Rights into a suicide pact."

Declare war NOW! read the rest at my site

#26 Yankee Division Son

Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is being made to watch his appearance in cult cartoon South Park while he is behind bars.

I'll betcha he was flattered.

Many non-Republicans are in denial. The entire left are in denial that there is a war on terror.

#37 blue_like_jazz

You're most welcome, and thank you for the compliment.