Not scared? You should be.

Wow, he's got a death wish.

good for him

I think he should do this while surrounded by pigs.

re: #6 Ward Cleaver

I think he should do this while surrounded by pigs.

he should bring Sterno, a frying pan, and a pound of bacon.

Drive-by...

Redefining "chutzpah."

If he's not scared, then he's not paying attention.

re: #7 beblebrox

re: #6 Ward Cleaver

I think he should do this while surrounded by pigs.

he should bring Sterno, a frying pan, and a pound of bacon.

And set up an open bar, and invite some strippers.

I think he should preface the mosque trip by doing the equivalent reading of something objectionable to Catholics in a Catholic church, then a Methodist church, etc. Save the trip to the mosque for last.

"A landmark mosque which is to be built"

...it's not even built?

...it's already a landmark?

Bets on whether this happens?

OT: THIS is rich:
German Govt. ponders own GITMO

[...] If for example potential terrorists, so-called 'endangerers,' cannot be extradited -- what do we do with them? One could, for example, create a law making conspiracy a criminal offense, as the United States has done. But the other question is: Can one treat such (potential terrorists) like combatants and detain them?"

Article: Is Germany Ready for Targeted Killings?
(in English, DER SPIEGEL, 07-11-07)

Yeh, good luck with that.

Displeasure and disappointment followed by warnings of potential violence, in 5...4..3..2...

Wallraff went undercover posing as a Turkish Gastarbeiter - guest worker - resulting in the classic Ganz Unten.

re: #10 Ward Cleaver

re: #7 beblebrox

re: #6 Ward Cleaver

I think he should do this while surrounded by pigs.

he should bring Sterno, a frying pan, and a pound of bacon.

And set up an open bar, and invite some strippers.

With a good old fashioned Carolina Pig Roast out in the parking lot.

Sounds like a publicity stunt to me.

I'll have to tell my mom. She lives in Köln.

He might want to work up to it by first having a ham sandwich and a glass of wine. Then maybe drawing a cartoon. You know, to see what happens. If he's still alive, he could read a few lines. No sense rushing into this.

Quick. Someone get rage boy a ticket to Deutchland.

Sounds like suicide to me!

re: #11 EC Marm

I think he should preface the mosque trip by doing the equivalent reading of something objectionable to Catholics in a Catholic church, then a Methodist church, etc. Save the trip to the mosque for last.

Why? what would the point of that be? It's not like the Catholics or the Methodists are running around threatening to slice peoples' throats for blasphemy.

An unnecessary diversion from the real issue. Don't muddy the waters.

Sounds like he better get ready to "eat and fuck pick!"

re: #19 kayatribe

Cologne. For some reason Charles' code didn't accept Koeln, spelled properly with an umlaut.

re: #21 Truck Monkey

Quick. Someone get rage boy a ticket to Deutchland.

We can PayPal him the money. But then he'd have to find someone who knows how to use a computer.

“I’m not a scared person,” he told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa.

Can I get a "no s**t, Sherlock?

If I were the German police, I'd be rolling my eyes right now.

Will he perform the reading while covered nude in chocolate and refering to "yams up his granny's ass"? That way, he could get the goverment to award him a big grant.

This will probably be a good thing. Those seething over the book will for the first time actually hear the story written on the pages rather than the one the mullahs and imams have informed them is in there.

What's that song again...

"Calling information..
"Get me Rage Boy No. 9" ?

I think we can expect this to register No. 1 "with a bullet" on the Seethe-O-Meter Hit Parade.

re: #25 kayatribe

re: #19 kayatribe

Cologne. For some reason Charles' code didn't accept Koeln, spelled properly with an umlaut.

It's gotten awful picky. Right, Ed...?

re: #11 EC Marm

I think he should preface the mosque trip by doing the equivalent reading of something objectionable to Catholics in a Catholic church, then a Methodist church, etc. Save the trip to the mosque for last.

The Catholics will bring him supper to eat while he reads, and sit down with him to initiate a peaceful, friendly and rational conversation. The Methodists will do the same, and invite him to Sunday services.

The muslims will try to kill him.

re: #11 EC Marm

I think he should preface the mosque trip by doing the equivalent reading of something objectionable to Catholics in a Catholic church, then a Methodist church, etc. Save the trip to the mosque for last.

That's a great idea. He should do it all in front of the buildings not inside.

re: #29 shoeless

This will probably be a good thing. Those seething over the book will for the first time actually hear the story written on the pages rather than the one the mullahs and imams have informed them is in there.

It's so deep they wouldn't understand it anyway.

re: #17 beblebrox

re: #10 Ward Cleaver

re: #7 beblebrox

re: #6 Ward Cleaver

I think he should do this while surrounded by pigs.

he should bring Sterno, a frying pan, and a pound of bacon.

And set up an open bar, and invite some strippers.

With a good old fashioned Carolina Pig Roast out in the parking lot.

And he should dress in a pink polkadotted fluffy skirt, to give the event a little edginess.

I still can't get past the fact that the mosque isn't even built yet and it's a landmark mosque. Oh, and they're already booking speeches...

Pretty good size set of balls on him...but it isn't necessary. Simply leaving a copy on the front steps will surely have them yanking on their beards - peace be dropped on them.

That book that kayatribe linked to looks interesting. If I could read German.

I kind of like his nerve.
Will change nothing of course.

re: #36 Cattt

re: #17 beblebrox

re: #10 Ward Cleaver

re: #7 beblebrox

re: #6 Ward Cleaver

I think he should do this while surrounded by pigs.

he should bring Sterno, a frying pan, and a pound of bacon.

And set up an open bar, and invite some strippers.

With a good old fashioned Carolina Pig Roast out in the parking lot.

And he should dress in a pink polkadotted fluffy skirt, to give the event a little edginess.

Wow, with all this quote stuff, posts are starting to look like a message board.

re: #23 mama winger
Irish Rose above answered for me. The point is, that he will survive the experience at the other houses of worship. They may attempt to calmly change his point of view but no one is going to get any sabers off the wall and cut his throat from ear to ear for his blasphemy.

There is no greater honor a Westerner can know than to put one's life on the line in the defense of freedom.

Godspeed Guenter...

As long as he gets lots of press coverage, and takes along the prerequisite bacon bits, he ought to be safe. I'd like to see them react in front of live cameras for the world to see...show us how angry peaceful they are.

That said, this guy is a brave soul.

Maybe that's his whole point. When the ummah flips out, it'll bring more attention to how crazy these people really are - and then the mosque doesn't get built.

re: #21 Truck Monkey

Quick. Someone get rage boy a ticket to Deutchland.

That gave me a great idea. The Rage Boy™ brand of pork luncheon meat. Be great to see his face screaming from a package of sliced ham.

OT

This is what the leftards can expect from the Islamists if they ever succeed in their conquest for world domination.

He said the 20 additional executions were for such things as "rape, insulting religious sanctities and laws, and homosexuality."

Are you listening Nancy? Doesn't that cover a large part of your constituency?

re: #47 rokbassist

Maybe that's his whole point. When the ummah flips out, it'll bring more attention to how crazy these people really are - and then the mosque doesn't get built.

I'm hoping it doesn't get built anyway. Sadly, I think it would take a dozen 9/11-style attacks in Germany first.

“I’m not a scared person,”

I fear he's he's about to become a ham and kraut on pita, toasted.

re: #45 song_and_dance_man

Who would win in a fight? GW Rage Boy or Islamic Rage Boy? GWRB could fall on IRB and crush him.

Has anyone out there read the Satanic Verses? Is there a short way of summarizing its blasphemy for the rest of us?

re: #39 Ward Cleaver

Herr Cleaver,

There was an English translation published in 1988 by a Random House imprint.

I've never read it. But I heard that this whole thing is over one or two sentences in the entire book.

re: #53 jill e

My take on the guy who wants to read Rusdhie in a mosque:

Assessment:
Mr.Wallraff-->
hopeless peacenick and known leftard. By U.S. standards: Democrat/Commie.

The turkish guy present at the discussion (not as bad as CAIR, but still)-->
Lightly veiled B.S. with a dash of Taqiya --> smells like Taqiya.

Reaction German blogosphere: Derisive laughter. Bottom line: F*** his raving proposal, let's concentrate on the project at hand, which is: Let's not build a huge mosque in the first place.

No reasonable person would ever assume that he will survive even attempting to enter a mosque with Rushdie's book.

He actually thinks he will be reading in a mosque. How pathetic is that?
Reality to him is but a distant star.

The man's got balls.

/all I can say.

Günter Wallraff is of the same kind as the English writers who proposed Rushdie for knighthood... clueless. But it may be nice to see Muslim spokesliars weasel around the question whether to host him or not... and when that happens maybe Alice Schwarzer follows up with the proposal to read Hirsi-Ali.

Wait, we're talking about Cologne, huh? Hmmm...
So, do you think the mosque would let Marilyn Manson in?

Marilyn Manson is banned from church
Monday, July 2 2007, 10:05 BST

By Matt Houghton

Marilyn Manson has been banned from entering a cathedral in Germany because he was wearing lipstick.

The rock artist was sightseeing in Cologne while there for the gallery exhibition of a number of his own watercolours.

Despite describing the building as "one of the most beautiful places that I've ever seen", he was denied entrance.

Although he has been criticised by a number of Christian groups for his Satanic views and albums such as Antichrist Superstar, Manson denied that it had anything to do with his banning from the cathedral.

He told The Sun: "They didn't let me in because I was wearing lipstick."

re: #53 jill e

Has anyone out there read the Satanic Verses? Is there a short way of summarizing its blasphemy for the rest of us?

I bought a copy when it was first published (still have it). I got about ten pages into it before my brain locked up. Couldn't tell ya. All I remember is that the opening scene is of a guy (or two guys?) falling to earth from an airplane. It's been over 15 years.

Can you say Lebensversicherung? If Guenter does not already have Life Insurance (the aforementioned German word), he may have trouble getting any. I hope that Guenter has lived a full and rewarding life. He may not get to meet any virgins after he is targeted by a follower of Allah the most merciful, but he will soon find out if Koelsch beer (unique to Cologne) is served in the afterlife.

re: #53 jill e

from the info given by people here, it's a pretty crappy read...

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

/so they'd rather let something else happen?

re: #53 jill e

I don't have my copy here at work or I'd reference it, but Hitchens spells it out briefly in god is not Great.

Maybe someone else with a copy handy can look that up.

re: #56 NoSubmission
IIRC, it's all about Rushdie naming some of Mo's wives as hookers?

re: #48 meMarc

re: #21 Truck Monkey

Quick. Someone get rage boy a ticket to Deutchland.

That gave me a great idea. Be great to see his face screaming from a package of sliced ham.

The quote under it could be The Rage Boy™ pork luncheon meat. 'Good for What ails ya'

Get your Islamic Rage Boy t-shirts, coffee mugs, bumperstickers ("My child decapitated your honor student")...

[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

I personally wouldn't do that.

#12 bryantms 7/11/2007 1:45:47 pm PDT reply quote

"A landmark mosque which is to be built"

...it's not even built?

...it's already a landmark?

Bets on whether this happens?

Will this be in "The Holy City of Cologne"?

LOL!
Those broads must hav been real *picks*!
re: #67 EC Marm

re: #56 NoSubmission
IIRC, it's all about Rushdie naming some of Mo's wives as hookers?

Burn ze vilage!

Is that his picture next to the article?
Or is that the expected, typical Muslim's reaction?

I really don't think he is going ot get this Ditib board's approval once this gets out onto the street.

I just don't see it happening unless he sneaks in or somehting.

re: #58 PatFromGermany

Reaction German blogosphere: Derisive laughter. Bottom line: F*** his raving proposal, let's concentrate on the project at hand, which is: Let's not build a huge mosque in the first place.

Cheers to that!

Anyone else up here in the Hudson Valley, NY? It's dark as midnight, and thunder is rolling in. Kinda cool. And not a minute too soon. It's been so hot for the past three days I've been stuck inside - asthma.

I look forward to seeing the whole thing on the BBC.

my prediction
2 fatwas
1 attempted bombing in retaliation

re: #47 rokbassist

rock bassist, huh?

One of the things that strikes me as very interesting here is that Wallraff has always been a relatively private person who actually shuns publicity and has often been called fragile. He and Rushdie must indeed be very dear friends and colleagues. Granted I haven't followed him at all since the early 90's.

re: #61 Cattt

I have a real hard time calling him an "artist". "Pop culture pimp" seems more accurate.

re: #77 merav

replace the words 'three days' with the words 'two months' and that's how things are here in phoenix. i went camping over the weekend and wouldn't you know it, it rained here. luckily where i went it also rained. unfortunately it hailed also and our camping gear got soaked!

re: #74 MadJadBad

Is that his picture next to the article?
Or is that the expected, typical Muslim's reaction?

It's not his picture, that is the picture of "The all the Rage...RAGE BOY!" You are in for a treat, a real treat! He's a borderline professional wailer and moaner, he is so goofy he always makes the headlines.

just Google: "Rage Boy" and you'll get an eyeful.

Here's the Wiki article on The Satanic Verses.

Good, now I don't have to read it.

Here it is:

In a section of the novel that particularly inflamed Muslims Rushdie parodies Mahound's household by inventing the brothel in which Baal the poet (representative of the discourse of literature) parallels Mahound and the twelve prostitutes he marries take on the names of the Prophet's twelve wives. Sacred (that is, divinely condoned) and secular sexuality, like sacred and secular verbal creativity, are made to appear virtually identical in a fictional context.

[Link: www.csulb.edu...]

I hope he's planning to wear battle armor and a very thick turtle neck sweater.

re: #85 Ward Cleaver

Whew! Thanks! Now I know I really don't want to read it!

Well Guenter, best of luck. This is highly recommended activity., to go into a Mosque and piss off the attending pious Muslims, not to mention the global Umma.
My guess is you will not find yourself engaged in a scholarly debate.
You do however have a ton of guts & I hope that it works out for you and that the RoP goes nuts. Oh wait already there. I mean nuttier

Charles, thanks for adding the picture of islamic rage boy.

re: #71 eschew_obfuscation

"A landmark landmined mosque which is to be built"

Seems better this way.

re: #85 Ward Cleaver

Here's the Wiki article on The Satanic Verses.

Good, now I don't have to read it.

The same information (truth) is also in Robert Spencer's "the truth about Mohammed."

A much more comprehensive break-down of the evils of Islam and it's founder, verse by verse (including the direct satanic ones).

Instead of reading Rushdie's book, I'd prefer he reading Ali Sina's book
"Understand Muhammad, A Psychobiography of Allah's Prophet"

People really need to understand the narcissist old Mo really was.

Here are some reviews:

A blisteringly honest, thoroughly documented, and piercingly insightful investigation of the root causes within Islam of the fanaticism and violence that today threatens the entire world. Should be required reading at the State Department and the White House - - Robert Spencer, director of Jihad Watch and author of The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades (Regnery)

A powerful, no holds barred look at an ideology of hate and what must be done to eradicate it. This book holds no punches. a must read for anyone seeking to understand Islamist terrorism -- Professor Kim Ezra Shienbaum, Ph D Dept. of Political Science, Rutgers University, Camden, NJ Chief Editor of "Beyond Jihad".

With great courage perspicacity and trenchant wit, Ali Sina demolishes a hst of politically correct myths about Islam, and it's founder. One wishes policymaking elites would avail themselves of his insights which shatter the dangerous delusions of their own invented Islam -- Dr. Andrew G. Bostom, author of "The Legacy of Jihad"

A truly thought provoking and profound reading. Dr. Sina's unique perspective offers incredible insight and knowledge of the threats which face the civilized world -- Jesse Petrilla Founder & Chair of the United American Committee

A Chicago medical van driver accused by the government of providing money to Hamas terrorists was sentenced Wednesday to 21 months in federal prison for lying under oath in a civil lawsuit.

Muhammad Salah, 54, was also fined $25,000 by U.S. District Judge Amy J. St. Eve and ordered to perform 100 hours of community service.

”Telling the truth is the bedrock of our judicial system and a slap on the wrist will not provide a deterrent,” St. Eve said, turning down emotional appeals from the defense for probation instead of a prison term.

She gave Salah, a former grocer, until Oct. 11 to surrender.

[Link: www.suntimes.com...]

What a surprise, his name is Mo.

I have a suggestion for him: make sure he knows about Theo Van Gogh, before he does his reading. Just make sure he knows.

re: #83 bosforus

re: #77 merav

replace the words 'three days' with the words 'two months' and that's how things are here in phoenix. i went camping over the weekend and
wouldn't you know it, it rained here. luckily where i went it also
rained. unfortunately it hailed also and our camping gear got soaked!

You must have been down in the Huachucas. I was with my girlfriend who lives in Huachucas and it rained and poured like crazy all Sat. nite. It
was probably also the only place in AZ that wasn't 100+ degrees.

This is what I'd heard about Rushdie's book. Before Islam the people of Mecca worshiped a moon god who had three daughters. Mo said that it was okay to worship these daughters, then changed his mind and said that verse came from satan.

re: #68 Oh no...Sand People!

re: #48 meMarc

re: #21 Truck Monkey

Quick. Someone get rage boy a ticket to Deutchland.

That gave me a great idea. Be great to see his face screaming from a package of sliced ham.

The quote under it could be The Rage Boy™ pork luncheon meat. 'Good for What ails ya'

Other lines:
You'll seethe with delight.
So good you'll scream.
It's to die for.
It's Kafir-licious.

re: #76 Krampus

The mosque is planned in Cologne .
2/3 of the Cologne population opposes the mosque.
Evil dhimmi-politicians want to go ahead (as seen in the U.S.) ignoring the will of the citizens.

But wait: 2009 city-elections loom... and this topic will be on the menu... as well as rising levels violence of the muslim immigrants

...more and more average German "war is not the answer" leftards seem to be getting it.

re: #82 MadJadBad

re: #61 Cattt

I have a real hard time calling him an "artist". "Pop culture pimp" seems more accurate.

I know people have strong feelings about him, but I like his stuff. I once read a thread on Sean Hannity's blog where a guy posted "Help! I like one of Marilyn Manson's songs!" Heh.

He just appeared in Europe with Alice Cooper. :) Back in the 70s, I remember Alice Cooper was the big naughty. A couple of my friends in the dorm gleefully played a song from one of his albums, thinking it was shocking. Lol. They were really freaked out when I broke it to them that it was written by Stephen Sondheim and Leonard Bernstein (oh no - the establishment!). Heh.

cat meat walking

Here's a short article (in German) on the 20th anniversary of Ganz Unten, which was published in 1985.

A few points therein:

He spent two years undercover as Turkish guest worker "Ali Levant."

There were huge ripples through West German society when the book came out. It was, at the time, the highest-selling book in the post-war Federal Republic of Germany. it was the first time for many Germans that the Turkish Gastarbeiter were humanized.

20 years on, Wallraff lamented that Germany had not succeeded in solving the problems of immigration and integration.

While I approve of the writer's bravery, I have to wonder about his physical safety.

re: #74 MadJadBad

That's Islamic Rage Boy! Note that Wikipedia sort of forgot to include the Islamic part of his moniker. Although they do admit he's Muslim.

re: #80 coz

yup - an old 80's metal head.

re: #94 song_and_dance_man

re: #88 song_and_dance_man

Errata. That's the New York Post.

When I saw WashPost, I thought, "They'd never publish anything by Michelle". It is a good article.

Reading the damned thing myself was bad enough. If somebody threatened to read it to me, somebody would die.

Maybe the English 51 year old granny who has married Osama laden trash bin's 27 year son can go along and enjoy a verse or three.

Should be fun

re: #102 Cattt

re: #82 MadJadBad

re: #61 Cattt

I have a real hard time calling him an "artist". "Pop culture pimp" seems more accurate.

I know people have strong feelings about him, but I like his stuff. I once read a thread on Sean Hannity's blog where a guy posted "Help! I like one of Marilyn Manson's songs!" Heh.

He just appeared in Europe with Alice Cooper. :) Back in the 70s, I remember Alice Cooper was the big naughty. A couple of my friends in the dorm gleefully played a song from one of his albums, thinking it was shocking. Lol. They were really freaked out when I broke it to them that it was written by Stephen Sondheim and Leonard Bernstein (oh no - the establishment!). Heh.

Nu-metal fake-rage shock-value tripe.

/only opinion, sorry... (ducks)

Vieleicht, die Mussulmannen verstehen kein englisch.

Perhaps the Moslems don't understand English.re: #13 PatFromGermany

OT: THIS is rich:
German Govt. ponders own GITMO

[...] If for example potential terrorists, so-called 'endangerers,' cannot be extradited -- what do we do with them? One could, for example, create a law making conspiracy a criminal offense, as the United States has done. But the other question is: Can one treat such (potential terrorists) like combatants and detain them?"

Article: Is Germany Ready for Targeted Killings?
(in English, DER SPIEGEL, 07-11-07)

vielen Dank!

re: #98 rokbassist

nope. white mountains. and it was a beast of a storm, though thankfully short. as i drove through one town on the way up, globe maybe, there was lightning all around me. i could feel one of the lightning strikes in my chest. the last time that happened to me a few years back i was actually able to see the strike about 30 yards from me.

re: #109 Mike C.

Reading the damned thing myself was bad enough. If somebody threatened to read it to me, somebody would die.

I feel that way about Thomas Pynchon's stuff.

re: #79 bosforus

unfortunately most Germans think, that the muslims are enraged for a real reason. Which is not the case, of course, as we all know.

German security services have prevented several attemps of terror attacks plus last year the T's were simply too stupid. (Sudden jihad failure syndrome, i.e. Glasgow).

I really think that the German public will only wake up if sth. really goes "BOOM".
Well, same as in the U.S. You had your 9/11 and even so, look at your homegrown moonbats denying the obvious...
*sigh*

re: #114 Cattt

"Great Expectations" by Dickens. Bloody horrible.

I hope he reads this part...

Rage Boy is about to get his schwerve on!

The dude should wear a suicide belt inside the mosque. When he's done reading blow the frickin POS to bits.

re: #116 PatFromGermany

re: #79 bosforus

unfortunately most Germans think, that the muslims are enraged for a real reason. Which is not the case, of course, as we all know.

German security services have prevented several attemps of terror attacks plus last year the T's were simply too stupid. (Sudden jihad failure syndrome, i.e. Glasgow).

I really think that the German public will only wake up if sth. really goes "BOOM".
Well, same as in the U.S. You had your 9/11 and even so, look at your homegrown moonbats denying the obvious...
*sigh*

"our moonbats" Hehe..

Yes, we're almost pround of em, the little buggers (:

I think people in Europe are waking up, but yes too many think that "if someone is pissed enough to 'splode themselves, it must be justified."

Andy MacCarthy at NRO make a very strong point,

Planet Earth to President Bush and the Republicans:

Al Qaeda — having killed nearly 3000 Americans on 9/11 and promising to do it again — is baking 11-year-old Iraqis and serving them as cannibal fare to their own parents! The impediment between these barbarians setting up shop and civilization is OUR TROOPS. Do you think, maybe, there might kinda, sorta be something here we could work with — y'know, assuming, just for argument's sake, of course, that we might possibly want to, um, take on the Left and rebut their insanity before we go along with all this?

Do you think maybe if you — repeatedly and convincingly — made clear to Americans what is going on over there, they might think, like, maybe we really do have to kill these savages — whose biggest target is us and who will get bigger and stronger if we leave? Do you think the American people, no matter how unhappy they are with you and how low your approval numbers are, will be content to lose a war to al Qaeda?

Is it possible that, instead of filling the media with stories about how your administration is trying to find a way out, we might possibly have you get on TV with some of the pictures Michael Yon has been publishing — and, y'know, like, friggin' P-E-R-S-U-A-D-E the American people that our troops are over there for a reason that makes a difference for AMERICAN lives.

I can't believe we're losing to these guys — in Iraq or Washington. Can't anybody here play this game?

I know how he feels. Bush is crap at communicating. But to give him credit, the media either ignores him or misquotes him when he does try.

#13 PatFromGermany re: link, thank you, LOL big time. Favorite quote:

Your predecessor Otto Schily already threatened Islamists with such a measure when he said: "Those who love death can have it."

While the dude's "at it" he should sing a song the MoHamHeads would all love, Catty Stevens could join him:

Jews and Christians, for friends say No (Surah 5:51)
They're apes and pigs, don't you know (Surah 2:62-65; 5:59-60; 7:166)
Fight 'em, kill 'em, slay 'em as you can (Surah 9:14, 9:29)
Behead and dismember, just do it man (Koran 5:33, 8:12)

Islam means submission, that's what it means
We say it's peaceful, but that's just beans
Mo on Aisha - six times older (54 deflowering 9-year old)
Dare don't fight us, we'll just get bolder

All*h Akbar is what we scream
It's not a nightmare, it's not a dream
We love death more than you love life
We don't want peace, we just want strife

[Link: news.bostonherald.com...]

re: #123 Confuzed

#13 PatFromGermany re: link, thank you, LOL big time. Favorite quote:

Your predecessor Otto Schily already threatened Islamists with such a measure when he said: "Those who love death can have it."

While the dude's "at it" he should sing a song the MoHamHeads would all love, Catty Stevens could join him:

Jews and Christians, for friends say No (Surah 5:51)
They're apes and pigs, don't you know (Surah 2:62-65; 5:59-60; 7:166)
Fight 'em, kill 'em, slay 'em as you can (Surah 9:14, 9:29)
Behead and dismember, just do it man (Koran 5:33, 8:12)

Islam means submission, that's what it means
We say it's peaceful, but that's just beans
Mo on Aisha - six times older (54 deflowering 9-year old)
Dare don't fight us, we'll just get bolder

All*h Akbar is what we scream
It's not a nightmare, it's not a dream
We love death more than you love life
We don't want peace, we just want strife

Brilliant... Someone should record it!

So I conclude, if you take the time to read The Satanic Verses, you'll feel like you've spent some significant time in hell!

Can we assume that 0.01 out of 10 rageful Muslims have read the book, too?

re: #107 rokbassist

Oh we gotta talk.

OT: 51 year old Brit marries 27-year-old boy toy who's name is Bin laden. (from Times Online)

Mrs Felix-Browne, who now uses the Islamic name Zaina Mohamad, says that she speaks to her husband for several hours every day over the internet or by telephone. During their conversations she refers to him repeatedly as “Habibi”, the Arabic for “my love”. She said: “I find it very difficult to live without him and I know he does too. But really we have the most normal life possible.”

She was aware before her marriage that her husband already had another wife and a two-year-old child. “I haven’t seen her but I have spoken to her for about an hour on the telephone,” she said. “She is fine about it.”

Incredible.

re: #95 saywhat?

Sorry, my brain read that as "Understand Muhammad, A Psychobabliography of Allah's Prophet" (a word that I think should be invented to describe just about anything coming out of the Islamic Paradise on Earth, or "IPOE", also sometimes translated as "I Pee On 'Em"). I think my brain misses Ed's Great Huge Flying Colors. Oh, well. Down, brain, down...

Carry on.

stupid question of the day?

Officer recommends court-martial for Marine in Haditha killings
Published: 07.12.07, 00:01 / Israel News
The leader of a battalion involved in the killing of 24 Iraqis in Haditha should face a court-martial for dereliction of duty, the investigating officer recommended in a report obtained by The Associated Press on Wednesday.
Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani, 43, was charged in December with dereliction of duty and violation of a lawful order for failing to report and investigate the deaths of the men, women and children in the biggest US criminal case involving civilian deaths to come out of the Iraq war. (AP)

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]
vs

A hearing officer recommended Tuesday that murder charges be dropped against Marine Lance Cpl. Justin L. Sharratt in the fatal shooting of Iraqi civilians in the western town of Haditha in late November 2005.

Lt. Col. Paul Ware said conflicting statements by Iraqis, inconclusive forensic evidence and questionable legal theories used by the prosecution were inadequate to send Sharratt to a court-martial on charges of killing three Iraqi brothers.

Ware's recommendation goes to Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis, commanding general of the Marine Forces Central Command.

Sharratt is one of three enlisted Marines charged with murdering civilians.

[Link: www.redstate.com...]

umm...someone is playing cards, is Bilal Hussein the AP reporter?

re: #121 astronmr20

:-))) they do get pesky at times. darn moonbats SHOO!

Send me a can of that anti-moonbat spray! We suffer from huge moonbat infestation over here!

re: #111 astronmr20

re: #102 Cattt

re: #82 MadJadBad

re: #61 Cattt
I have a real hard time calling him an "artist". "Pop culture pimp" seems more accurate.

I know people have strong feelings about him, but I like his stuff. I once read a thread on Sean Hannity's blog where a guy posted "Help! I like one of Marilyn Manson's songs!" Heh.
He just appeared in Europe with Alice Cooper. :) Back in the 70s, I remember Alice Cooper was the big naughty. A couple of my friends in the dorm gleefully played a song from one of his albums, thinking it was shocking. Lol. They were really freaked out when I broke it to them that it was written by Stephen Sondheim and Leonard Bernstein (oh no - the establishment!). Heh.

Nu-metal fake-rage shock-value tripe.

/only opinion, sorry... (ducks)

It's ok. If I took umbrage at such an opinion, that's all I'd do all day. :)

What can I say - I have catholic tastes.

re: #116 PatFromGermany

screw it all because global warming's going to kill us all first anyways. that's the real issue that the world needs to deal with.

re: #117 Mike C.

re: #114 Cattt

"Great Expectations" by Dickens. Bloody horrible.

Oh man are you right. As a high school freshman I had to read Great Expectations FOUR times in Lit.
Over the Holidays we had to summarize every paragraph. The teacher was the football coach. Nice guy, clueless teacher.
I hated that book, Mrs Haversham etc. I still hate that book, BORING. It should be baned. Yeah thats the ticket

re: #128 daughter of patriots

OT: 51 year old Brit marries 27-year-old boy toy who's name is Bin laden. (from Times Online)

Mrs Felix-Browne, who now uses the Islamic name Zaina Mohamad, says that she speaks to her husband for several hours every day over the internet or by telephone. During their conversations she refers to him repeatedly as “Habibi”, the Arabic for “my love”. She said: “I find it very difficult to live without him and I know he does too. But really we have the most normal life possible.”

She was aware before her marriage that her husband already had another wife and a two-year-old child. “I haven’t seen her but I have spoken to her for about an hour on the telephone,” she said. “She is fine about it.”

Incredible.

I have been saying this for quite some time... Arab muslims are the next way that little white girls will get back at their dads.

Consider;

Tall and swarthy? Check.

Dangerous? Double-check

Out of the rim of normal society? Check.

Really going to piss Daddy off? Check Check.

/Just you watch.

I hope they serve BLT's while he does this.

re: #131 PatFromGermany

re: #121 astronmr20

:-))) they do get pesky at times. darn moonbats SHOO!

Send me a can of that anti-moonbat spray! We suffer from huge moonbat infestation over here!

I ran out but I have some on order. That stuff it hard to get through customs though. Just spot me the shipping costs.

My favorite Rage Boy:

[Link: projects.csail.mit.edu...]

re: #123 Confuzed

Striking parallel: In German anti idiotarian blogs angry poets post poetry just like that. Nice ...er...well i'd like to think of it as a song..*humming along* :-)

re: #135 astronmr20

Just wanted to add:
That kind of thing is all part of the Jihad, the mujahadeen are actively seeking white western women to do this with, I had to chase one off my best friends sister who lives in the UK in 2003, in the process I found out ALOT about this phenomenon.

This is not just another goofy old slut bangs Arab stud story.

This is agitprop and Jihad and Cultural warfare.

I have to shut down,
big 'ol lightning coming in.

Have a good one Lizards

re: #116 PatFromGermany

re: #79 bosforus

unfortunately most Germans think, that the muslims are enraged for a real reason. Which is not the case, of course, as we all know.

German security services have prevented several attemps of terror attacks plus last year the T's were simply too stupid. (Sudden jihad failure syndrome, i.e. Glasgow).

I really think that the German public will only wake up if sth. really goes "BOOM".
Well, same as in the U.S. You had your 9/11 and even so, look at your homegrown moonbats denying the obvious...
*sigh*

Germans are nothing if not tidy,start blowing sh*t up and watch out.

River's abundance of corpses ruins Iraqis' appetite for carp

It's good to see someone standing up for Rushdie (really, for freedom).

The English gave him a -whatever- (knighthood?) and the hateful English Mohammedan doctors went ballistic. Wonder what the German Mohammedans will do?

Rushdie's a lousy writer, but he certainly ought to be able to write what he wants minus the murder fatwahs. Bravo to the German writer for standing up for free speech and reason.

we complain alot about "artistes"atttempting to be brave (THIS "PISS cHRIST IS BREAKING DOWN BARRIERS!")Fair dues if he gets away with it ...balls of brass

re: #134 opnion

re: #117 Mike C.

re: #114 Cattt

"Great Expectations" by Dickens. Bloody horrible.

Oh man are you right. As a high school freshman I had to read Great Expectations FOUR times in Lit.
Over the Holidays we had to summarize every paragraph. The teacher was the football coach. Nice guy, clueless teacher.
I hated that book, Mrs Haversham etc. I still hate that book, BORING. It should be baned. Yeah thats the ticket

Hey! I liked it - especially Miss (NOT MRS!) Haversham and her grotesque wedding cake, filling poor little's Estella's mind with hatred of men. I love Dickens.

I have a friend who is a literary snob - he was all hot about Mr. Pynchon's stuff. I turned him on to Philip K. Dick - since Mr. Dick's work has been compared to Mr. Pynchon's stuff (but Mr. Dick's stuff is actually readable, interesting, and plotted) - my friend READ Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, and I got him to read The Man in the High Castle (my favorite). :)

#128 daughter of patriots,

I wonder how much husband $support she sends him?

Actually, while he's reading, he should have a hot dog weiner in his mouth -- sort of like a cigar.

Wallraff, a gadfly writer

I always wanted to be a gadfly

Barfly was as close as I ever got

re: #118 new2thezoo

I hope he reads this part...

That is good. I didn't think I would understand but it made perfect sense. Thanks for that.

re: #145 Cattt

I guess it was the best times .it was the worst of times

re: #133 bosforus

sth is changing on the C02 front too:
Over here MSM are questioning the validity of the C02-hoax. Even yesterday there was an insightful feature on TV ridiculing the flowery panic people.

It seems to sink in the history of earth the C02 increase comes 800 years AFTER a climatic change. Easy enough to grasp one should think... but BEHOLD the POWER of YE good olde MOONBAT! It will never repent. We'll see.

sounds like the clash of civilizations version of a Jackass skit.
I hope he does it.

re: #151 mahatma coat

re: #145 Cattt

I guess it was the best times .it was the worst of times

Ahhh yes, A Sale of Two Titties A Tale of Two Cities.

/couldn't help myself

re: #145 Cattt

I think my paperback copy of "The Man in the High Castle" disintegrated 3 decades ago.

This seems like as good a time as any to remind everyone that:

JIHAD IS HUMP OF ISLAM

While he's reading Rushdie, I'll be reading:
"If We Can Keep a Severed Head Alive...Discorporation and U.S. Patent 4,666,425"
by Chet Fleming

I suspect it may be time to test the author's theory.

Dickens isn't for everybody - but I love it.

re: #154 song_and_dance_man

and not great expectations?!Fantatic novel ...but maybe you need to be a small boy to really enjoy it

Notice!

If you reload your page now, you'll see a new style of animation when you preview, post comments, or use the 'new comments' button. Sort of a fadey, slidey, growy kind of thing.

This has been a public service announcement.

O.T.
I read about Rosie O F@+@$$ on a cruise talking bad about Elisabeth Hasselbeck and it kills me she is such a POS
Exclusive! Rosie O'Donnell: Cruiseship attack on Hasselback
She must have been thrown off the boat tho,they found her in Australia
Coincidence?I think not
It's a whopper,"
Karma will get you every time

re: #159 jamgarr

You can have your Dickens.

re: #161 Charles

Notice!

If you reload your page now, you'll see a new style of animation when you preview, post comments, or use the 'new comments' button. Sort of a fadey, slidey, growy kind of thing.

This has been a public service announcement.

Charles, it's gets better everyday!

who can resist testing "slidey, growy" kind of things?

... He lived to be 64 ...

re: #164 David E

Thank you, I will.

re: #152 PatFromGermany

yeah, coming up with reasons to not be concerned about global warming is like shooting fish in a barrel. but when i talk about it with anyone i always have to state the most obvious logic or else i'm turned into an earth destroyer, "look, i don't think that helping the environment is bad i just don't think it deserves as much attention as it's getting". when i realized that that's all i have to say to get my point across i was not only relieved but also dumbfounded that other people didn't think the same way. but that was many years ago. i've learned to expect and even feign respect for even the craziest of the left's ideas.

Test comment.

Don't Let Ed See This Large Font!

I liked Bleak House.

I rather liked Great Expectations. IIRC... it was, er a while ago, back in college. Like, you know, five years ago. Yeah, that's it.

What was weirod was the trailer for the Great Expectations "modernized" film adaptation that came out some years back, in which star Ethan Hawke blubbers to Gwyneth Paltrow, "everything I do, I do for you!". Er, guys, that's not Dickens, that's Bryan Adams.

re: #135 astronmr20

re: #128 daughter of patriots

OT: 51 year old Brit marries 27-year-old boy toy who's name is Bin laden. (from Times Online)

Mrs Felix-Browne, who now uses the Islamic name Zaina Mohamad, says that she speaks to her husband for several hours every day over the internet or by telephone. During their conversations she refers to him repeatedly as “Habibi”, the Arabic for “my love”. She said: “I find it very difficult to live without him and I know he does too. But really we have the most normal life possible.”
She was aware before her marriage that her husband already had another wife and a two-year-old child. “I haven’t seen her but I have spoken to her for about an hour on the telephone,” she said. “She is fine about it.”

Incredible.

I have been saying this for quite some time... Arab muslims are the next way that little white girls will get back at their dads.

Consider;

Tall and swarthy? Check.

Dangerous? Double-check

Out of the rim of normal society? Check.

Really going to piss Daddy off? Check Check.

/Just you watch.

Mine are grown and fortunately dating in their strata. But when if I have a grandaughter, and are able, and a member of the Ummah show up at my doorstep, I'm gonna wear his head out with a Louisville, let him live, and tell him, "tell your friends. Tell ALL your freinds!"maybe a dousing of pigs blood just for effect...

re: #161 Charles

Notice!

If you reload your page now, you'll see a new style of animation when you preview, post comments, or use the 'new comments' button. Sort of a fadey, slidey, growy kind of thing.

This has been a public service announcement.

I just noticed that, Charles. At first I thought I was drunk. Guess I should drink more.

that big old spring that they have been compressing in the west is starting to push back.

Sort of a fadey, slidey, growy kind of thing.

There is no pain you are receding
The distant ships smoke on the horizon

Lady Bird Johsnon has died.

This looks type from a Beverly Cleary novel.

You are only coming through in waves
Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying

re: #161 Charles

Notice!

If you reload your page now, you'll see a new style of animation when you preview, post comments, or use the 'new comments' button. Sort of a fadey, slidey, growy kind of thing.

This has been a public service announcement.

Charles, I can handle the "slide", but this is a bit much.

Iiii have become
comfortably fadey, slidey, and growy

re: #179 Occasional Reader

You are only comming through in waves.

Testing new effects..
Testing..

test..

re: #180 NY Nana

Lady Bird Johsnon has died.

She's been pretty sick lately.

re: #186 Occasional Reader

LOL!

I'm getting dizzy. Charles, will you reimburse for keyboards that have been puked on?

This is guaranteed to break your heart, or your giveashit

176 paxnhymn

Arab muslims are the next way that little white girls will get back at their dads.

I'm sure there is truth in that, but I'm still troubled by the "condoms are too big for ME men" thing. I mean, there is a definite business opportunity there (make smaller condoms for ME men), but that's beside the point.

/:)

Bring on those fadey, slidey, growy days of summer...

re: #180 NY Nana

I am profoundly sorry about Lady Bird. I was no fan of the Johnson White House, but Lady Bird had a huge influence on the Keep America Beautiful campaign. She loved her Texas Bluebonnets, and anybody who's ever admired the Tulip Library by the Ellipse in DC or the daffodils on the hillsides along Rock Creek Parkway have Lady Bird to thank.

re: #192 Alouette

Guess what - it sucks to be a security threat to Israel.

One of Lady Bird's big careabouts was highway beautification. It's the reason the rural interstates aren't one endless string of billboards.

re: #181 song_and_dance_man

re: #173 EC Marm

Just don't abuse it and we'll keep it to ourselves to use when appropriate.

It looks like the size is contained in a variable on the server (Charles') side. Good move.

re: #194 Cattt

LOL! now that pissed Mo off fo sho!...

re: #189 Ward Cleaver

I know, and she was 94, but she was lovely...a real lady, unlike a certain ex-White House property thief resident.

BTW, I am getting sea-sick when I post, also.

#192 Alouette: From your link:

A 25-year-old Fatah member who was injured during the recent clashes with Hamas in Gaza was denied entry to Israel for medical treatment and lost both of his legs as a result...

“With all due respect to the Shin Bet’s work and concern for Israel’s security, I fail to understand how a man who is missing one or two legs can jeopardize the country’s security; it’s simply ridiculous,” Ran Yaron of the Physicians for Human Rights organization said.

And I fail to see how this was Israel's problem to begin with, Mr. Yaron.

OT
Syria slams Sarkozy for branding Hezbollah 'terrorist' organization

Syria's state-run newspaper Wednesday criticized French President Nicolas Sarkozy for branding Hezbollah as a "terrorist organization."

Sarkozy, in a meeting Monday with the families of three abducted Israel Defense Forces soldiers, including two seized by the Shiite group last summer, expressed the view that Hezbollah needed to renounce terrorism.

Referring to Hezbollah, the Syrian "Tishrin" newspaper, in its editorial Wednesday, posed the question, "How are concepts and principles turned upside down and those who struggle for freedom and independence are turned into terrorists?"

re: #192 Alouette

This is guaranteed to break your heart, or your giveashit

Since's he Fatah, I can't work up much sympathy.

Actually, I think Rushdie is a great writer. Not my favourite, and sometimes he's too showy & tricky for his own good (not in the Hemingway school, for sure) but he can write.

aye some mofo font that is

re: #170 bosforus
what alienated most in these kind of discussions you mentioned (I had my share of them as well)was the kind of hatred I encountered.

It's not so much that their theories are faulty, but the left also seems to convey this weird kind of hatred (the "tell me I'm wrong and I'll call you a nazi kind") right into the minds of theirs followers.

how can once reasonable people suddenly become so emotional over such complex and controversial issue?

I think it is because they take an idea and ideologically and emotionally supercharge it . A strategy worth of acknowledgment.

sometimes he's too showy & tricky for his own good

Bad, tricksy writer!

re: #192 Alouette

I tested. My Tear Meter™ registered dry.

yuck

re: #204 cbinflux

"How are concepts and principles turned upside down and those who struggle for freedom and independence are turned into terrorists?"

I'm glad you asked that question:
Answer: By blowing up innocent people - Next question?

re: #202 NY Nana

re: #189 Ward Cleaver

I know, and she was 94, but she was lovely...a real lady, unlike a certain ex-White House property thief resident.

BTW, I am getting sea-sick when I post, also.

She sure put up with a lot infidelity on LBJ's part. God bless her.

re: #200 EC Marm

It looks like the size is contained in a variable on the server (Charles') side. Good move.

It's a CSS class, actually. Right now the HTML sanitizer allows classes.

I'm thinking about setting up a limited set of classes to change color, size (with limits), fonts, etc.

REPORT: AL QAEDA AT PRE-9/11 STRENGTH
al-Qaida has rebuilt its operating capability
A new threat assessment

I hope someday to visit Lady Bird's wildflower research center. It looks like a beautiful place.

Oh, the writers' sanity! It is always doubtful; Ursula LeGuin pointed out that is was no wonder that no rational society has ever fully trusted its artists. Which rather takes the wind out of Shelley's sails, and the notion that the poet is the unacknowledged legislator of the world.

That bit of drivel on my part is simply a test.

re: #204 cbinflux

He seems to be bearing up beautifully. Sarkozy is a breath of fresh air, unlike PM Brown of the UK, who seems more like Chirac, and is beginning to stink like over ripe cheese.

re: #215 Charles

re: #200 EC Marm

It looks like the size is contained in a variable on the server (Charles') side. Good move.

It's a CSS class, actually. Right now the HTML sanitizer allows classes.

I'm thinking about setting up a limited set of classes to change color, size (with limits), fonts, etc.

So Ed... won't have to go on Prozac after all?

re: #205 Ward Cleaver

re: #192 Alouette

This is guaranteed to break your heart, or your giveashit

Since's he Fatah, I can't work up much sympathy.

and there's no guaranty that Israel's side could've saved his legs either, then the headline would be, "Israeli MD incompetence cause loss of palestians legs"...

Lose/lose

/spit!

re: #209 PatFromGermany

you're exactly right. they tell themselves so much that it's true and they hear other people say that it's true that they believe that it's true no matter what anyone says, forgetting all reason and possibility that they might not have some of the facts straight or they're just over-interpreting data. and that self-conviction makes it a real emotional issue for them and anyone who deviates or thinks differently is not only flawed but very likely evil.

re: #215 Charles

re: #200 EC Marm

It looks like the size is contained in a variable on the server (Charles') side. Good move.

It's a CSS class, actually. Right now the HTML sanitizer allows classes.

I'm thinking about setting up a limited set of classes to change color, size (with limits), fonts, etc.

Does that mean I will get my cat avatar back? ? ? :) It's a Webding. I promise to be judicious.

re: #203 Occasional Reader

#192 Alouette: From your link:

“With all due respect to the Shin Bet’s work and concern for Israel’s security, I fail to understand how a man who is missing one or two legs can jeopardize the country’s security; it’s simply ridiculous,” Ran Yaron of the Physicians for Human Rights organization said.

How much explosives can be packed into one or two prosthetic legs?

re: #219 NY Nana

re: #204 cbinflux

He seems to be bearing up beautifully. Sarkozy is a breath of fresh air, unlike PM Brown of the UK, who seems more like Chirac, and is beginning to stink like over ripe cheese.

Now I'm reminded of the Monty Python cheese shop sketch with John Cleese.

And actually -- I just realized that I need to disable the class attribute for now, too, because if people start applying other random classes they could really mess up the display.

Done.

Oh Lord, will you ban all
those Mercedes-Benz
My friends all have Porch-ees
I must make (carbon) a-mends

re: #215 Charles

i think that would be a good idea, otherwise this place would start to look like a late 90's AOL chat room. i shudder at the thought.

re: #217 Ward Cleaver

Sorry Ward, but i'll always associate her with her POS husband that started the US circling the bowl with his Great Society BS...

Uh-oh, time to go home. Now it's just started pouring down rain. Great, just great. See yez.

Sorry to take that little toy away after dangling it out there. But it could be a disaster if people apply some of the formatting classes in my CSS file.

Just testing to make sure it's outta there:

Testing!

re: #219 NY Nana

"Care for a nice bit of Wensleydale?"

re: #199 song_and_dance_man

comfo
rtably numb then

Clicking on Linky thingy make IE7 go boom.

re: #214 Ward Cleaver

She sure put up with a lot infidelity on LBJ's part. God bless her.

May she rest in peace. She left our country a better place with her wild flower plantings program. She was charming, unlike her husband.

re: #229 paxnhymn

re: #217 Ward Cleaver

Sorry Ward, but i'll always associate her with her POS husband that started the US circling the bowl with his Great Society BS...

My late father used to tell a joke about the Great Society (around the time it first came into being). I don't remember it all, but the punchline ended with "... and two rolls of toilet paper".

re: #235 Alouette

Just about everything make IE7 go boom.

re: #221 paxnhymn

re: #205 Ward Cleaver

re: #192 Alouette

This is guaranteed to break your heart, or your giveashit

Since's he Fatah, I can't work up much sympathy.

and there's no guaranty that Israel's side could've saved his legs either, then the headline would be, "Israeli MD incompetence cause loss of palestians legs"...

Lose/lose

/spit!

This will be a spoiler - don't read it if you hate spoilers.
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This reminds me of King's Row (great Ronald Reagan movie), which is unusually noir for Hollywood in the 1940s. Excellent flick.

I have noticed some different fonts. Color is nice. But 40 point type is ridiculous.
Wait a minute I'm still testing!

This posted yet?

Poll: 70% of Iranians Would Recognize Israel

(IsraelNN.com) A comprehensive telephone poll of Iranians reported by the Wall Street Journal shows that Iranians are more pro-Western and less belligerent than their leaders. Asked what issue should top their national agenda, 29% of Iranians polled chose the nuclear arms race, whereas 88% picked economic improvement.

80% supported full international monitoring of their nuclear facilities and an Iranian commitment not to pursue nuclear weapons in exchange for foreign aid.

70% of Iranians were in favor of normalizing relations with the USA. "In exchange" for this normalization, most Iranians support recognizing Israel and "Palestine" as independent states and cessation of Iranian support for militias in Iraq.

re: #242 meMarc

This posted yet?

Poll: 70% of Iranians Would Recognize Israel

(IsraelNN.com) A comprehensive telephone poll of Iranians reported by the Wall Street Journal shows that Iranians are more pro-Western and less belligerent than their leaders. Asked what issue should top their national agenda, 29% of Iranians polled chose the nuclear arms race, whereas 88% picked economic improvement.

80% supported full international monitoring of their nuclear facilities and an Iranian commitment not to pursue nuclear weapons in exchange for foreign aid.

70% of Iranians were in favor of normalizing relations with the USA. "In exchange" for this normalization, most Iranians support recognizing Israel and "Palestine" as independent states and cessation of Iranian support for militias in Iraq.

I think it's time for the Persians to get their pitchforks and torches and storm the castle.

re: #225 Ward Cleaver

Python? Monty Python?

[Link: news.aol.com...]

NOT ENOUGH TIME ESP SINCE THEY SCREWED UP THE EARLIER TRIAL

Link Test

And an interesting read in it's own right.

O.T.
Bush did not give Hillary back her pair
Bush Orders Miers Not to Testify

Bush ordered former counsel Harriet Miers to defy a congressional summons

Contempt citations against both women were a possibility.

re: #232 Charles

New comments lose formatting until refresh on stan's browser. Did I just see a comment animate?

re: #233 Kenneth

I have a wedge of Wensleydale with cranberries in the fridge. I am seriously contemplating letting guests at my housewarming have some.

Maybe. If they're really good.

Mmf. Had to add that code in several spots. Time to refactor that.

Yup - just as I thought. Nothing wrong with the link function in IE7.

It ain't the browser, folks.

And yes, we have smilin' Jimmuh Cahtuh to thank for all of this Islamic warmth and friendship.

Great News, via Drudge:

Al Qaeda back to pre 9/11 strength?

re: #204 cbinflux

Yeah, how dare Sarko tell the truth!

re: #233 Kenneth

As long as it's kosher! Why thank you! :)

re: #183 jamgarr

You are only coming through in waves
Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying

in the west we all have become comfortably numb.

#13 PatfromGermany

Pat -

#1. Your countryman willing to read Rushdie at the Mosque (Pearls before Goats?) is brave beyond belief.
#2. I tend to believe that late 60's/early '70's Germany did a bit of
"Targeted Suicide" with regard to some "Red Guards" types, why should this be surprising?

-S-

re: #247 Mike C.

I didn't see it on the link but I guess their adding IED also.

#61 (and other Marilyn Manson posters):

It seems odd to me that, considering all of the Euros who strut around Germany with orange Mohawks or in full Islamic burquas, someone would bar Marilyn Manson from visiting a cathedral.

And his skills as a musician notwithstanding, MM used to be married to (hey nowww...) New Burlesque Queen Dita von Teese (whom, according to MM, used to cook breakfast wearing a corset and high heels), and had previously been involved in a long-term (for showbiz) relationship with (hey nowww...) Rose McGowan...
...so he's obviously got somethin' going on...maybe selling his soul to the Devil isn't such a bad idea..

re: #250 Dianna

Great! What time should I show up?

Illegal Immigrant Activist Urges Conservative Talk Radio Boycott

AM talker Laura Ingraham debates Elias Bermudez, an immigration activist who wants people to boycott conservative talk radio.

What next?

re: #222 bosforus

...that self-conviction makes it a real emotional issue...

Exactly. The message is implanted in the minds of the gullible in an appealing an emotionally charged way. The underlying message allways seems to be:"If you don't buy into our version, something is very wrong with you personally".

It's emotional extortion, really.
Hence the missionary fervor of the indoctrinated followers. They fight for their puny little xyz- theory of the moment like their salvation depended on it.

What I alway failed to realize: For them it really does...

We're looking at a the very core of the psychological set of tools which the left applies to multiply whatever agenda they currently have.

hmm... nice talking to you :-)

As for the German author reading Rushdie in a mosque, well, I wouldn't care to try it.

re: #205 Ward Cleaver

re: #192 Alouette

This is guaranteed to break your heart, or your giveashit

Since's he Fatah, I can't work up much sympathy.

Play ---> Pay
Sow ---> Reap

He has dedicated his life to the destruction of Israel and each and every Jew in the world. Why should he expect free - or any - medical treatment from them.

re: #263 LeftJustAintRight

Illegal Immigrant Activist Urges Conservative Talk Radio Boycott

AM talker Laura Ingraham debates Elias Bermudez, an immigration activist who wants people to boycott conservative talk radio.

What next?

Well if the illegals don't want to listen...who cares? I think talk radio did a great job at mobilizing people against the amnesty bill. G-d bless them, every one.

#219 NY Nana
Sarkozy is a breath of fresh air, unlike PM Brown of the UK, who seems more like Chirac, and is beginning to stink like over ripe cheese.

Yes. I read recently where the Euros yelled at President Sarkozy for jogging (too American) wearing NYPD sweats (way too American). I think he's sexy (is that unPC to say? good). PM Brown is NOT sexy.