She's a gem. Thank God she's in the US.

Saw it a few days ago... the Canadian guy is an a**hat.

Class and intelligence smashes sputtering disdain.

Loved it.

Hirsi Ali is just fantastic. She seems very assured and poised when delivering her message. She also has the courage to match her convictions.

It is hard for a delusional to debate someone who knows the subject matter. Alan Colmes comes to mind in America.

May God Bless her every move even though she does not believe in Him yet.

I do enjoy the labeling of Avi Lewis as a "Northern Moonbat", Charles. It's almost like some kind of furry animal that Marlin Perkins once shot footage of.

Avi Lewis is married to Naomi Klein and they obviously have marital moonbat mastery issues.

The whole thing is almost parody. Every common stereotype is hauled out and every thing he says is canned corn.

If Ken shows up
ask him to tell you about the asshat,
he had good info on him the other day.

Lewis is a self loathing red diaper baby Uncle Chom elitist MFer.

Where does anyone from france-lite get the right to lecture about American Democracy? I suppose world war I and II just won themselves.

This guy is an idiot.

Rocket Launcher Found Near Newark Airport

CBS) JERSEY CITY A Jersey City woman made a shocking discovery on her lawn this morning when she noticed a military rocket launcher lying in the grass.

Niranjana Besai was leaving her house, located at 88 Nelson Street, to go to work just after 8 this morning when she spotted the launcher on her front lawn. "I read it and it [said] 'missile,'" Besai told CBS 2 HD. "There was little 'missile' [writing] on it."

She immediately called police.

Sources tell CBS 2 HD that the device is the type used to shoot shoulder-fired rockets and is capable of taking down an aircraft.

re: #6 BabbaZee

May God Bless her every move even though she does not believe in Him yet.

He does and she will.

Here she is on the Glenn Beck Show in case you missed it. Lot's of biographical background.

"They shoot abortion Doctors in America." Oh yeah Avi, that must be those soldiers that were wearing skulls.

Babba, save this one. This Avi fellow is sooo Stuuupid.

Ah the CBC - the BBC wannabe!
I am ashamed of the CBC and this drivel they allow to be shown.
Stick to hockey!

She's wonderful.

...Sexy too.

/The guy is an complete idiot...He can't stand to hear a black woman praise America.

I equally appreciated Dennis Prager's commentary on this debate. Two parts:

[Link: beyondthenews.salem.cc...]

[Link: beyondthenews.salem.cc...]

The predictable carnage when a useful idiot meets a person of real stature.

As a Dutch-American, I'm absolutely ashamed of the way she was run out of Holland, but incredibly glad she has landed in the US.

I would love to slap the smug grin off the interviewer's face. She absolutely owned him and he didn't even know it. The staggering bias in every comment he made was disgusting.

Ali Hirsi, a legal immigrant doing the job Bush won't do.

ouch that hadda leave a mark

Why are you Americans so concerned about the US/Mexico border. Surely the priority is keeping Canadian dickwads like this out?

It's embarrassing that's for sure..
But any Canadian with the intellect above a hamster rightly ignores the moonbat orgy that is the CBC.
Nobody watches the channel, save for Hockey Night in Canada, but our tax dollars keep it afloat.
And the douche bag in the video?
Well, he's the spoiled offspring of socialist extraordinary Stephen Lewis.

Oh, and it's a damn shame Ayaan Hirsi isn't in American politics!
I mean, if Ellison can win...

I saw this the other day on HotAir. The snarkiness of Avi Lewis is such that I just wanted o slapt eh shit out of him. Dennis Prager did a good job of fisking him as well.

Yeah, she called for the Vlaams Belang in Belgium (which is really a bit much even if there are some true creeps in the party) and her comments about Christianity are often quite absurd (e.g. when she agreed with Bill Maher about the destructive, corrupting nature of all faiths), but the way she elegantly stomps on lefties who think we are the cause of Islam's evil is quite entertaining and satisfying to see.

#27 to be banned, that is

"You grew up in Freedom, so you can spit on freedom. You don't know what it's like to not have it."

MY God, was that the best retort to this asshole ever!

re: #10 BabbaZee

Red diaper baby is an excellent description of Avi Lewis.

re: #5 pat

It is hard for a delusional to debate someone who knows the subject matter. Alan Colmes comes to mind in America.

Alan Colmes defines the word "girlie man" by his very existence.

re: #22 pat

Ali Hirsi, a legal immigrant doing the job Bush won't do.

She should be his SoS.

re: #25 Logan

#25 - Right on, eh! What an embarrassment!

re: #27 Yank in the EU

It's the same way I feel about Hitchens-
Sure his anti-religion, anti-Christian diatribes are often hard to stomach... but it's worth it just to have someone- ANYONE in the media speak out against islamic terrorism with such brutal honesty.

re: #13 Wishing

Amen

re: #30 Joel

yup!

Never heard of this guy Avi Lewis before.

Hirsi says the democracy of the united states is the best in the world. Check ..

And this guy comes back with a suggestion our democracy is broken because Bush stole two elections?

You have to wonder if Lewis would have such "marital moonbat mastery issues" (great line greenmamba) if a Democrat were the POTUS ... me thinks not.

They shoot abortion Dr.'s in the United States...Like that happens every day and is preached by the bible...What an asshat this guy is.

the name "On the map" sounds really silly. I'm on TV--and on the map!

Avi Lewis is a pompous, racist moonbat. Racist might be pushing it, but the way he talks to her is absurdly rude.

re: #37 turn

#37 - look him up in Wikipedia - the grandson and son of Jewish socialist Canadians - a red diaper baby for sure! These kinds of Canadians are embarrassing!

re: #36 BabbaZee

My boss here (one year older then I am) is a red diaper baby. Her grandparents were real card carrying members of the Party (if you get my drift).

re: #24 didache

LOL!

Charles, don't forget the two audio links at HotAir in which Dennis Prager nails Lewis to the wall.

re: #32 Maximu§

"She should be his SoS."

You beat me to it! She is everything I hoped Condi would be but is not.

re: #6 BabbaZee

growing up islam, i'm sure she's allowed a reprieve

I like the way the note STABBED into Theo Van Goghs' chest was described as "pinned to his body".

A little bit on Avi Lewis, the interviewer;

He is the son of a former New Democratic Party leader,
and if you don't know about the NDP, then consider yourself lucky. If you think the Democrats are bad, you ain't seen nothin'!

He is an ignorant, socialist, America-hating smug little prick.
And if I ever saw him, it'd be hard not to take a swing at him.

re: #46 bosforus

Everyone gets their reprieve.
She is a righteous woman. I want her to know joy, too.

re: #42 Joel

I do and I know some like this as well

Lewis reminds me of the multitude of people who, due to ideology, political correctness and general lack of spine, cannot admit to themselves two basic facts of reality: (1) radical Islam's violent nature is self-generating, or independent of external action, and (2) that the West's Judeo-Christian tradition truly cannot be compared to the threat posed by radical Islam, and it is part of the very foundation of our free, just and prosperous society.

re: #48 Logan

sign me up

I can't watch the video where I'm at, but was able to find a transcript here:
[Link: flaggman.wordpress.com...]

It includes some very good commentary by the writer. Here's an example:
"Avi (interrupting again): Is there a school where they teach you these American cliches? Is it part of your application process? I’m sorry - I’m so upset, I’m losing my cards here. I can’t believe you just said that!

Implication: Oh, stupid brown girl, I’ve lost patience with you. You are a brainwashed neo-con dupe. You have no right to be on the right!

Truth: Avi Lewis’ has a completely closed mind. He hasn’t absorbed a word she’s said in seven minutes now."

She crushed him!

I loved how she smacked him with the fact that he grew up in freedom so he can spit on it, and that she didn't have that luxury

She hit the nail on the head with her comment "you can spit on democracy...I can't" because that goof has never experienced anything other than the benefits of the Judeo-Christian tradition.

What is the nonsense about people in the United States imposing Biblical principles on people? Principles like equality? Penalties that don't involve chopping hands off? Ideas like free speech?

What a fool. I'm ashamed to be a Canadian, as people associate me with this idiot.

Al Hirsi for PM.

re: #8 greenmamba

Really? A Lewis - Klein marriage must be like mutliplying zereos. Talk about a leftist power couple. I thought she was still making puppy-dog eyes to sub-commandante Marcos in Mexico? Everything she wrote sounded like a middle-school love note to him.

You grew up in freedom, so you can spit on freedom...She's awesome.

re: #49 BabbaZee

Hello Sunshine!

I like the way she didn't allow herself to be diverted from the topic at hand by his "Truths" and snive little comments. She obviously knew what she was in for. I find it funny how in her book she portrayed herself with average intelligence, she's sharp.

And since I'm still very much a man, she's not hard on the eyes either.

Beautiful day down here!

What doesn't Ali have going for her?

Smart, beautiful, can devour a moonbat with one calm bite.

The Left doesn't have anyone even remotely approaching her.

#58 portrayed herself in her book.

Well, we can't exactly expect Lewis to do a turn-about on national television. I'm not hopeful that this exchange will do anything to change his mind, and if Ali can't do it, then engaging him is really a lost cause. Better to just write him off as another arrogant, manipulative prick.

It's always amazing to watch an educated person fail to grasp the most basic principles.

re: #58 Widow'smight

She is beautiful in all ways indeed

I saw this a couple of days ago as well. Shows like this are one reason why my t.v. is rarely on. Definetly liked how she took him behind the wood shed, politely.

re: #62 BabbaZee

Spoken from a lady personally familiar with said ways.

Avi Lewis spits on freedom.

I love you, Ayaan!

"It's not Islamophobic to say Islam is incompatible with liberal democracy"

Too right it's the bloody truth. Brave woman she made the right move getting out of Holland.

Ali is in a perfect position to throw these lefty guys. They can't lay a hand on her in argument, so like Lewis, they resort to appealing to general prejudices and cliche'. She wins every time, but as long as types like Lewis can spout off their favorite solecisms, they call it a draw.

Babba, this a good tape for your library.

re: #61 godfrey

Well, we can't exactly expect Lewis to do a turn-about on national television. I'm not hopeful that this exchange will do anything to change his mind, and if Ali can't do it, then engaging him is really a lost cause. Better to just write him off as another arrogant, manipulative prick.

It's always amazing to watch an educated person fail to grasp the most basic principles.

hi godfrey!

I ranted about this on Hot Air.

This is a product of the anti-American DYNASTY in Canada of Stephen Lewis and Michelle Lansberg an obnoxious, horrific, Canadian feminist "icon" who is kinda a trooofer.

Avi Lewis' wife is none other than Naomi Klein of "No Logo" Fame.

Need I say more?

re: #61 godfrey

Turn about? Nobody's asking him to start putting 'I Love Cheney' bumper stickers on his car, but he could've at least thinly veiled his astounding ignorance, and dampened some of his anti-American cliche spewing ideology... It's almost to the point of parody, and it would actually be funny if it weren't so damn frightening to be reminded that this sort of self important, rabidly anti-U.S. attitude exists.

Group in Detroit wants to destroy both America and Israel! They must be stopped.

For proof, see 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

With a name like Avi, this fellow would be picked up at the border in any number of Islamic countries. He seems unaware that he belongs to an illegal ethnic group.

re: #56 bianchi_roadie

Darling, they are largely legends in their own mind. A documentary that they did together was completely ravaged by critics.

Wow, she disarms with wit and charm where I would have simply backhanded that jackass with a "STFU!"

Awesome beauty, inside and out.
We need many, many more like Ayaan.

re: #64 Widow'smight

{Widow}

/later Lizardia

Can we please stop calling lefties "progressive"? Collectivization isn't progress, it's regression to medievalism, where everything belonged to the King.

-jcr

re: #68 pat

I'm saving it.

Gotta go!

re: #70 WriterMom

I wonder who wears the pants in that family?

I think my 9 year old daughter could take that sissy. Oh wait, she's eligible to be Avi's bride according to Islam. Too bad those Arch-conservative Christian Men don't let A-holes mess with their kids.

speaking of things Islamic, anyone ever see this video?

She rips this empty suit right there and then when he sez ' is there a school where they teach you American clichees' - and she sez ' you can spit on freedom because you grew up in it...'

This guy is dumber than a sack full of bricks. A dangerously deluded lunatic.
Sadly, we have too many of them. How can we restore sanity?

Ayann Hirsi Ali was a member of an "elite" family in Somalia? Give me a break. Her father was gone all the time, eventually abandoning the family. They lived in the desert and herded goats.

re: #65 NoSubmission

Exactly! Her last point is 100% right.

"sure there are things wrong with American...but America is the best Country in the world"

Its amazing that people who have lived in the West and been SPOILED by it think they can lecture a woman who has lived under brutality about how America is worse then other nations.

This sentiment has been shared by me for such a long time. (and has contributed to my conversion from Socialist to Conservative) The West are so arrogant, so ignorant, and so spoiled by the right and privildges we take for granted in the West, that we have become the Paris Hilton of the world. We sit in the country club complaining about the service, and yell at the other patrons that Mc Donalds is better because it is faster.

Many Westerners forget that the rights they parrot and take for granted (freedom of speech, freedom of religion, right to privacy, and the right to life, liberty & pursuit of happiness, etc., are not everyday, naturally occuring rights that have always existed and always been respected...THEY ARE AMERICAN RIGHTS, CREATED BY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS, encouraged by OUR COUNTRY, and adopted by our LEAD! Their dear U.N., and "universal human rights" doctrines, etc., wouldn't even have been considered but for the UNITED STATES and the WEST.

"They kill abortion doctors down there!"

There is one small strand of violent Christians who committed two murders in Florida and there was Eric Rudolph. That's not it, but those are the most severe examples. It's been quiet for years. In a nation of 300,000,000, that's hardly a Christian jihad.

In typical leftist tu quo que fashion that's being balanced against The Religion of Peace.

GRIM MILESTONE WATCH -- R0P APPROACHES 9,000 FATAL JIHAD ATTACKS SINCE 9/11/01

8,983

I'll take 9,000 by Saturday evening. Depends on Thailand.

Did I hear her say something about him spitting on freedom? OMG, that was an awsome interview, one of the best I've heard in a while.

She needs to run for office.

re: #11 YourTaxDollarsAtWork
actually Cdns know well how world wars 1 &2 were won .62,000 casualties in ww1 and 4200 in world war two ,dieppe ,Juno beach etc...
All to make Canada safe for tossers like him

This Avi Lewis dork is without a doubt THE most annoying douchebag EVER featured on LGF.

I really wanted to give the dork an atomic wedgie that would rip his underwear waistband, and just hang him from a gym locker by his underwear.

He really needs a working over by some junior high school bullies.

re: #84 Beagle

as Kathy Shaidle likes to point out ,there have been more abortion doctors killed and clinics bombed ,on Law and Order ,than in real life

re: #86 mahatma coat

That's true.
Let's keep in mind, not all Canadians are created equally.
For every Avi Lewis, I remind myself that there's a Mark Steyn.

Thankfully, not all of us Canadians, share the same views as Avi Lewis and the CBC.

Is Avi a homo? Just wondering because he looks and acts like one.

"They shoot abortion doctors in the US!" Seriously, is that all the left has for evidence of some supposed massive Christian fundamentalist takeover of US governmental policies? Because that incident was a crime in the pubic sphere, completely separate from government policy obviously.

Avi = demagogue (possibly gay demagogue)

Could he have been anymore condescending to her? What a pecker.

She stays so calm and reasoned. Too bad she can't bottle that- she'd be rich.

Does Avi know how Iran and Saudi Arabia celebrate sexual diversity?

We also had our last Attorney General burn up some of those dastardly Christian women and children. Thank God Clinton protected us!

More on Avi Lewis...

Nothing more than a so called Liberal do gooder who caters to the younger vote in Canada which is more liberally minded.
Of course this is par of the course of CBC broadcasting Corp.
[Link: www.canadians.org...]
Is it any wonder that he started out at MUCHmusic
Here is another so called reporter who has a little more whit and knowledge to him.
George Stroumbolopolos
[Link: www.cbc.ca...]
At least he is a bit more politically aware then Avi Lewis.
But again just nothing more than a glorified VJ at MUCH.

re: #85 filetandrelease

Did I hear her say something about him spitting on freedom? OMG, that was an awsome interview, one of the best I've heard in a while.

She needs to run for office.

I am almost finished reading "Infidel". It is great.

I want her to run for keith Ellison's congressional seat.

re: #91 alteredbeat

Not sure why Avi's sexual preference would be important to this dialog! I think you are dislike Gays and are lashing out, and using "gay" as an insult for no good reason.

I cannot speak for LGF in general, or the rest of the posters, but that type of needless attack on a person's sexuality, especially when it isn't even pertinent to the conversation, is NOT appreciated, rude, offensive, and should be stopped immediately!

(additionally, it seems that he has a wife. It was posted earlier on this thread)

Lastly, your other statements about Avi (ie: being a demagogue) were actually quite spot on. If you hadn't started your post with stupid anti-Gay B.S., one might have been interested in taking your statements to heart or honestly considering them.

Try to act like a respectable human being next time!

#90 Krampus

I often wonder at the percentage. I think at least 75% of the Canadians I know have moonbat tendencies.

It's notable that someone who mentions "cliche's" in reference to Ali's praise of America, speaks almost solely in cliches...more projection from the left.

re: #98 Eagle

when the US takes over Canada after Canada implodes from political correctness, please count me in the 25% non-moonbat group.

I swear, some people here would curse the discovery of a cure for cancer if it was discovered by an American.

Good thing I am married to an American

wow i have never seen that guy before but he is instantly on my top 5 media tard list

1. olbertard; obvious
2. david caruso; CSI Miami
3. that guy; see video, nuff said
4. nancy grace; makes me want to put a pencil in my ear and my eye
5. chris hanson; Dateline predator guy

re: #97 WrathofG-d

Um there was no attack. I simply asked if he was gay.

re: #97 WrathofG-d

Wrath-I agree with you...Avi Lewis is an asshole-and I couldn't care less who he sleeps with (although it SERIOUSLY turns my stomach to think about him with his wife Naomi Klein). The anti-gay jibes are really inappropriate.

101 blutonazi98 7/20/2007 11:30:51 am PDT reply quote

wow i have never seen that guy before but he is instantly on my top 5 media tard list

1. olbertard; obvious
2. david caruso; CSI Miami
3. that guy; see video, nuff said
4. nancy grace; makes me want to put a pencil in my ear and my eye
5. chris hanson; Dateline predator guy

I love to watch that show and count the number of times Caruso stands sideways for dramatic effect...I laugh every time...(I know...simple minds are easily amused :-)

102 Alteredbeat:

It didn't seem that way from the words used and the "tone", but I'm not looking to start a fight or argue with you.

I just wanted you to know where I stood on unecessary bashing of an individuals sexual preference, and that it wouldn't be appreciated or ignored on this blog. (at least by Wrath).

We can carry on now. If it wasn't meant as an insult, then good!

re: #98 Eagle

#90 Krampus

I often wonder at the percentage. I think at least 75% of the Canadians I know have moonbat tendencies.

Your right Eagle, and I've seen them up close for to many years. Up here in Ontario, everyone looks at you sideways if you claim to be conservative. Especially if your under the age of 40.

Our older generation still remembers what tyranny really means.

re: #103 buzzsawmonkey

Buzz, there is a difference between knowing it, and getting it.

re: #107 Krampus

Where are you in Ontario?

The Canuck was the most insufferable douchebag I've seen in a long time, and he's had some pretty stiff competition.

re: #109 WriterMom

re: #107 Krampus

Where are you in Ontario?

London

re: #104 WriterMom

Excuse me. There's nothing anti-gay about asking if someone is gay. Get your trigger-happy sensitivity meter turned down a few levels please.

Has Avi Lewis ever even been to the United States?

re: #104 WriterMom

Thank you for agreeing.

When it has nothing to do with the topic, it has nothing to do with the topic! Despite what the LLL like to say, LGF doesn't condone outright, unnecessary hatred. (or at least Wrath & WriterMom don't!)

re: #112 alteredbeat

Relax, Francis! Methinks you protest too much.

re: #113 NoSubmission

Has Avi Lewis ever even been to the United States?

Not sure about Avi, but John (J.D.) Roberts of CNN, has been in The States for a long-while. He's also for a former Much Music VJ.

re: #96 funkyfantom

I am almost finished reading "Infidel". It is great.

I want her to run for keith Ellison's congressional seat.

That would be sweet. Smart, brave, and throw in good looks as a bonus, She has got my vote, but it would have to against Mel M. And he is not getting my vote anyway.

re: #112 alteredbeat

Chill out.

Who are you calling sensitive? Fuck sensitivity.

re: #87 funkyfantom

atomic wedgie

hahahahhahaha

alteredbeat:

you'd be best served just to say; Sorry.

Some more unsoliticed abvice.

re: #19 Yank in the EU

Great commentary at those links - thank you!

re: #98 Eagle

The Conservative/Liberal splits seems to be similar to the United States, i.e. rural: conservative, urban: liberal.

There is a huge number of Canadians who don't buy into Avi's twisted logic or rabid anti-Americanism.

And thankfully Prime Minister Stephen Harper is one of them.

re: #87 funkyfantom

This Avi Lewis dork is without a doubt THE most annoying douchebag EVER featured on LGF.

I really wanted to give the dork an atomic wedgie that would rip his underwear waistband, and just hang him from a gym locker by his underwear.

He really needs a working over by some junior high school bullies.

Control yourself!

re: #123 Logan

re: #98 Eagle

The Conservative/Liberal splits seems to be similar to the United States, i.e. rural: conservative, urban: liberal.

There is a huge number of Canadians who don't buy into Avi's twisted logic or rabid anti-Americanism.

And thankfully Prime Minister Stephen Harper is one of them.

Cheers to that Logan. You observation on rural v. urban are spot-on.

This clown wouldn't hate the U.S. if he lived in Somalia. She totally owned him when she told him that he had no idea what it was like to live like that. I love her.

re: #119 buzzsawmonkey

If the reason for asking is to draw a false connection the fact of their being gay with the nature of their opinions, yes there is.

You see that in my post somewhere? If you drew the connection, you did it yourself.

So apparently to you, LGF is a board where all manner of leftist and Muslims slams/criticisms/disparaging can abound but even an inquiry into a persons sexual orientation will be must with swift condemnation based on a possibly intended connection between that orientation and their politics?

Like I said, turn down the sensitivity meter.

America is a land where we "shoot abortion doctors?!?!?" I hope most Canadians aren't as dumb as this asshat.

re: #124 cbinflux

re: #87 funkyfantom

This Avi Lewis dork is without a doubt THE most annoying douchebag EVER featured on LGF.

I really wanted to give the dork an atomic wedgie that would rip his underwear waistband, and just hang him from a gym locker by his underwear.

He really needs a working over by some junior high school bullies.

Control yourself!

It's OK. I got that out of my system, and now I feel pretty good.Thanks.

Usually I cannot abide people who post in block capitals but..

I LOVE YOU AYAAN!

#97 WrathofG_d

Avi brings up gay rights in the interview to insult the United States, but alteredbeat was being a jerk.

Still, that's a strange criticism of American Christianity to bring up in a discussion of Islam unless Avi favors stoning gays to death like they do in Iran per sharia law.

Ayaan is AWESOME!
Avi? What a HOSER!
And I'm not Canadian!

She really is great isn't she? So well spoken, calm, and coherent. I love this woman. We couldn't ask for a better spokesperson on this issue.

re: #131 Beagle

The leftist response to anti-gay sentiments (to put it mildly) in the Muslim world can be summed up as follows: LALALALLALALALA I AM NOT LISTENING TO YOU LALALALLALALA!

Oh yeah, almost forgot: that Avi guy is a real douche isn't he? He's really got all of his moonbat, far-left, America-hate spewing talking points down doesn't he? Always the same regurgitated drivel with these people. I live in Southern CA and I tell you I hear the exact same stuff from most of my friends here...mostly on the west side. I think the ocean air must do something to the wiring in their heads...turns them into a bunch of lemmings...

he knows she is thrashing him - watch his hands - he is anxious and frustrated.

Avi's grandfather was leader of the Federal New Dork Party and his father led the Ontario New Dorkacrats. Alot of Dorks in the Lewis family.

re: #128 mickthemick

No - we are not all that dumb.

Avi, is such an uninformed , smug little punk.
If America is so bad we need a fence to keep people in
Oh wait...

Dennis Prager played this interview on Monday afternoon (7/16) and did a wonder disection. Well worth the download for your mp3.

#125 Krampus

Cheers to that Logan. You observation on rural v. urban are spot-on.

My family seems to follow that trend as well. I am the exception (I think). City born, and generally conservative Canadian. I have seen the moonbat up close, and it aint pretty.

I recently talked to a guy from Toronto. He would tell me (no kidding) that when he was in high school, he actually had 1 hour of 'feelings' per week. He is now conswervative.

Why the cities? Why are they all commy-red?

#100 darkster2400

I swear, some people here would curse the discovery of a cure for cancer if it was discovered by an American.

Wouldn't surprise me at all. I know people who have said as much.

I see more and more anti-americanism all the time. Or maybe I just notice it now, where I didn't before.

All you need to know about young Mr Lewis is that his grandfather, David (along with Keifer Sutherland's grandfather, Tommy Douglas) was one of the founders of what is now called the NDP (think Britain's Labour Party) but was originally called the CCF (subsequently changed as too close to their mentors the CCP). His father Stephen was also a NDP bigwig and now lives off the rest of us as some sort of UN big shot. Personally, and were it up to me, I'd gladly ship the whole lot of em to SF where they would fit right in if we could get Ayaan Hirsi Ali in trade. Not on? Then how about you just take the whole lot of em anyway eh!

#123 Logan

And thankfully Prime Minister Stephen Harper is one of them.

Harper is the best thing to happen to Canada in a long time. Loved his speech at Vimy.

She is even more attractive because she is so eloquent. I'd love to submit to her! :-)

What a boob!

Talk about cliches, shooting abortion doctors, religious right controlling the country, islamophobia...

She just put him on the map...
He should thank her every day of his career!

A quick search reveals the entire gay community isn't stupid.

The leading imam in Manchester, England, confirms that he thinks the execution of sexually active gay men is justified, the rights group Outrage reported.
Arshad Misbahi of the Manchester Central Mosque confirmed his views in a conversation to John Casson, a local psychotherapist.

Casson said: "I asked him if the execution of gay Muslims in Iran and Iraq was an acceptable punishment in Sharia law, or the result of culture, not religion.

"He told me that in a true Islamic state, such punishments were part of Islam: If the person had had a trial, at which four witnesses testified that they had seen the actual homosexual acts."

"I asked him what would be the British Muslim view? He repeated that in an Islamic state these punishments were justified. ...

This isn't some kind of Monty Python joke to the imams, ayatollahs, and muftis (oh my!). They actually stone people or fling them from tall buildings. If they're feeling creative they might topple a wall on convicted gays. Avi just doesn't get it.

Simply awesome...money quote

Hirsi to Avi the as*hole - " You grew up in freedom you can spit on freedom because you have never lived in a country that is not free, I have"

Avi Lewis is a scion of the first family of Canadian Leftards.

His grandfather created the closest thing we have to a communist party in Canada, the NDP.

His father was a leader of the NDP and has subsequently participated in a variety of UN activities.

His mother is a shrill lefty columnist for the most left wing major paper in the country (the Toronto Star). It's painful to read her work sometimes. It's painful to read that paper sometimes. It's painful to live in Toronto much of the time.

I doubt that poor boy's brain ever had a chance - it was probably awash in left dogmatic fluid while still in utero, breast fed with left-leaning milk, ate Lefty pablum as a child, and nothing but Canadian Bacon and left-tilted eggs for breakfast.

I truly doubt he is islamophobic. Probably all the muslims he knows are doctors, lawyers, and throughougly westernized. If that was Islam, there would probably be no problem. The However, Islam these days is the other ones, the ones who are breeding and hating, they are future of Islam. He only sees them when they cab him around or clean his lawn, and probably he does not even see them as people. He belongs to the political elite of Canada, went to the top private school in the country, and lived in the most exclusive neighbourhoods.

But they see him, a nice rich Jewish boy, and those bearded Omars and Mohammads are looking forward to the time when payback comes around against the rich powerful JOOOS life Avi. We'll see where the Lewis family runs too... who wants to guess they will run to the US?

Me.

I gotta give Hirsi Ali credit. I would not have been able to keep from telling him off. To calmly debunk that idiot the way she did is a credit to her patience.

Wow he got destroyed.
"You grew up in a democracy so you can spit on freedom but I did not"
Zing!

your own belief that gay = bad in some way or other

Thanks for letting me know what I believe buzz. Here's some clarity.

I don't like the worldviews espoused by leftists, communists, socialists, muslims, humanists, and GLBT. Now the actual people that have those worldviews are full of worth and worthy of all respect and rights given to them by their creator.

Apologies to any I offended by my earlier posts.

re: #152 June_July

I doubt that poor boy's brain ever had a chance - it was probably awash in left dogmatic fluid while still in utero, breast fed with left-leaning milk, ate Lefty pablum as a child, and nothing but Canadian Bacon and left-tilted eggs for breakfast.

LOL !

Part of the controversy in the clip is over the "there is no islamophobia" thing.

Am I the only one who has a problem with the word "Islamophobia"?

Phobia: a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it.

But the word "Islamophobia" is used as a hate word, like antisemitism or racism.

Shouldn't the word be "anti-Islamism" along the lines of "antisemitism"?

Simply irresistable. She is dynamite and should be making billions on the lecture circuit at every university in the U.S.

Instead our tax dollars fund speeches by crackpots like Michael Moore. Not that Flint, MI is much better than Somalia or much safer, but at least Ayaan knows what the word grateful means.

re: #149 Beagle

A quick search reveals the entire gay community isn't stupid.

The leading imam in Manchester, England, confirms that he thinks the execution of sexually active gay men is justified, the rights group Outrage reported.
Arshad Misbahi of the Manchester Central Mosque confirmed his views in a conversation to John Casson, a local psychotherapist. Casson said: "I asked him if the execution of gay Muslims in Iran and Iraq was an acceptable punishment in Sharia law, or the result of culture, not religion.

"He told me that in a true Islamic state, such punishments were part of Islam: If the person had had a trial, at which four witnesses testified that they had seen the actual homosexual acts."

"I asked him what would be the British Muslim view? He repeated that in an Islamic state these punishments were justified. ...

This isn't some kind of Monty Python joke to the imams, ayatollahs, and muftis (oh my!). They actually stone people or fling them from tall buildings. If they're feeling creative they might topple a wall on convicted gays. Avi just doesn't get it.

Actually, if there could be said to be such a thing as a gay version of Aayan Hirsi Ali, I think of Bruce Bawer, the journalist who wrote the fantastic "While Europe Slept" which is REQUIRED READING for all LGF lizards.

Avi Lewis is also married to an uber-leftist, Naomi Klein. Clearly, she wears the pants, and he wears the dress. Think of it -- here's a man who accuses Ayaan of uses cliches, then he goes off and lists his own left wing cliches...pure rubbish!

If the dress fits, Avi, wear it.

re: #143 Eagle

Well, and obviously this is somewhat of a generalization, you have to consider people who grow up the cities (like Toronto for example), are often wealthier types who have too much free time to be joining every cause-du-jour and going into the whole lefty activism thing.
And, if you're from a rural community, it's more likely the people there are hard working, perhaps labour types, with a better sense of moral values, earning your way, and all that jazz.
Having a steady job can often make it difficult to be parading around in the streets with your keffiya on smashing Starbucks windows and then getting picked up by mom and dad. Besides it just wouldn't have the same effect- Throwing a garbage can in your small town local mom and pop store probably wouldn't get the same amount of cheers...

re: #139 dimestorenovel

I second that.

re: #152 June_July

I doubt that poor boy's brain ever had a chance - it was probably awash in left dogmatic fluid while still in utero, breast fed with left-leaning milk, ate Lefty pablum as a child, and nothing but Canadian Bacon and left-tilted eggs for breakfast.

That kind of thinking creature actually eats meat? Most hard core leftists and NDPers are militant vegans.

re: #162 Logan

re: #143 Eagle

Well, and obviously this is somewhat of a generalization, you have to consider people who grow up the cities (like Toronto for example), are often wealthier types who have too much free time to be joining every cause-du-jour and going into the whole lefty activism thing.
And, if you're from a rural community, it's more likely the people there are hard working, perhaps labour types, with a better sense of moral values, earning your way, and all that jazz.
Having a steady job can often make it difficult to be parading around in the streets with your keffiya on smashing Starbucks windows and then getting picked up by mom and dad. Besides it just wouldn't have the same effect- Throwing a garbage can in your small town local mom and pop store probably wouldn't get the same amount of cheers...

lol, that scenario sounds all-to familiar.

I am reading up on Naomi Klein (Avi Lewis's wife) on the Internet. She is a real left wing wacko. They deserve each other. Two Jews who probably wish they were not even Jews.

>>Actually, if there could be said to be such a thing as a gay version of Aayan Hirsi Ali, I think of Bruce Bawer, the journalist who wrote the fantastic "While Europe Slept" which is REQUIRED READING for all LGF lizards.

Same here. I know my share of gays who are to the right of me, at least with respect to law and order issues and certain international issues.

I get the CBC, I gotta see if I can find that idiot and look at his show, if I'm low on aggravation someday, and need a little more.

I liked his line about needing to be fantastically rich to get power in the USA.

Clinton was middle-class. Reagan was well-to-do, I'd hardly call him fantastically rich. Same with Nixon. Eisenhower was retired military. Harry Truman had problems keeping two residences (Washington and Missouri) when he was Senator. Hoover became rich through his own effort, started out as an orphan, shipped from Iowa to live with relatives in Oregon.

The richer Presidents of recent times were on the left. FDR and JFK come to mind. If Kerry had won, he'd have been one of the richest Presidents. Still, when you look at it, it's rather remarkable how many Presidents come from relatively modest means.

All that being said, if someone has what it takes to be President, and is now middle-aged to older...if that person hasn't managed to accumulate some money along the way, something's wrong.

Current campaign finance laws make it MORE likely that only the rich will be able to pursue office. McCain-Feingold should be scrapped.

re: #152 June_July

Yeah the Toronto Star really is a neo Marxist newspaper. Reminds me of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

Well, there's nothing like raging anti-americanism and wonderfully broad, liberal generalizations for good debate.

I think there's a huge Smug Alert over Canada!

re: #100 darkster2400

re: #98 Eagle

I swear, some people here would curse the discovery of a cure for cancer if it was discovered by an American.

Or if it were developed in Israel!

re: #59 Eagle

What doesn't Ali have going for her?

Smart, beautiful, can devour a moonbat with one calm bite.

The Left doesn't have anyone even remotely approaching her.

More than that - she speaks the truth with a quiet dignity that they could never possibly hope to master.

OHHH the irony...

If anyone on the video is gay, it is Ayaan herself, I have heard she is a lesbian but I have no way of knowing it personally or "proving" it.

Nor do I give one French flam-bayed
rats ass
and good for her if she is
for not making it "political" .

THAT I despise and take issue with, the politicizing of the personal ala Gramsci.

Who or what one likes to shack up with is an utterly private matter and far as I am concerned it is between them and GOD not them and me.

So much for being gay having anything to do with the opinions of ignorant assholery displayed by Lewis on this video.

So... who feels like an utter doofus now?

re: #10 BabbaZee

If Ken shows up
ask him to tell you about the asshat,
he had good info on him the other day.

Lewis is a self loathing red diaper baby Uncle Chom elitist MFer.

OK but do you like him?

By the way-has anyone but me noticed that Alan Combs seems to be losing his mind?

re: #172 BabbaZee

I never read that Ayaan Hirsi Ali is gay (not that I would even care if she was) but she is more importantly a heroic woman.Tammy Bruce is also gay and a strong articulate voice on our side (and a friend of Charles's).

This woman wiped the floor with that sanctimonious goofball.

Can she please be our next Secretary of State? Please?

God I hate smug know-nothing a**holes like Avi Lewis. The fact that he is fellow Canadian makes it even worse. He empitomizes left thinking which can be summed up as: "We are smarter than and morally superior to anyone who thinks differently than us."

When I saw thate he had Hirsi Ali on the show that he may have learned something since his last idiotic show a few years ago...Not.

At least all of you who do not live in the GWN aren't forced to pay taxes for this garbage. The CBC sure gives me good reason to minimize mine.

Although, with all due respect, I must say you too have your share of tax-supported moonbats - Congress and Senate and the hallowed halls of academia.

Way to sock it to him Ms. Ali. You rock.

Grrr...

re: #173 mrsoc

Colmes is as I previously posted - the very definition of a girlie man. Colmes makes "Randy" Andy Sullivan seem like a masculine fellow.

re: #176 island_dave

I just got back from Montreal and met and spoke to many people who were level headed and kind. I was expecting the Montreal of the 90's which was a bit less civilized-it was a nice surprise.
Also re your

At least all of you who do not live in the GWN aren't forced to pay taxes for this garbage. The CBC sure gives me good reason to minimize mine.

You should see PBS! And for that matter NPR (spouse calls it national paranoid radio.) I should move to the wilds of North Dakota and learn to shoot a bow and arrow.

re: #174 Joel

Irshad Manji is openly gay and it is through people who know her I was told this, I did not read it anywhere legitimate either but it is out there as rumor and inneuendo if you google it.

That being said I was accused of being gay for years myself (and I am not) so it may or may not be true. Also for some reason gay people like to imagine that everyfuckingbody is gay, LOL, so it may be wishful thinking on those ladies part who told me this.

As I said, I could care less, I just found it hysterically ironic based on how this thread progressed if she really is.

re: #178 mrsoc

It is easy to shoot a bow.

Ayaan speaks truth to power.

I generally dislike this leftist slogan, but in this case, it fits.

re: #179 BabbaZee

Also for some reason gay people like to imagine that everyfuckingbody is gay,

I have a sister in law-Oh the stories I could tell. Feh.

re: #179 BabbaZee

Also for some reason gay people like to imagine that everyfuckingbody is gay, LOL, so it may be wishful thinking on those ladies part who told me this.

Too true. Almost every gay I ever met claims that the entire world is gay, If so how come I see so many women with "belly bumps"?

re: #182 mrsoc

I know, I know, LOL it's some sort of mental need for validation disease.

This guy is totally clueless. Here is his feeble attempt at a "best of" reel: in case you need a higher concentration of moonbat moon shine.

[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

re: #173 mrsoc

He had a mind to lose?

#152 Jun-July
I truly doubt he is islamophobic. Probably all the muslims he knows are doctors, lawyers, and throughougly westernized. If that was Islam, there would probably be no problem.

Well, there is that little matter of the ring of eight doctors involved in the multiple string of car-bombings in England and Scotland.

And the head of Al Qaeda ( assuming Bin Laden is dead ) is also a doctor.

Quite a few Islamofascist terrorists have gone to European and American universities, also.

re: #183 Joel

I spent 36 years in the travel business. If everyone the gay people in that industry think is gay-were-the world would have run out of people 10 years ago.
There's a quote somewhere about nothing growing so quickly as the ranks of dead people who belong to secret societies. I thought it was Bierce but I can't find it. Of course by this time of day I can't find my ass with both hands either.

heh, look at the impotent fury on that leftist wienie's face (and how true it is that his authentic mental state is all written in his eyes, not in his forced faked smile). DRIPPING with contempt for both Ms Ali and the US.

It seems that the moonbats have finally found someone who is a)female, b)a person of color, and c)from an Islamic dominated state, that they can hate.

re: #171 Joel

More than that - she speaks the truth with a quiet dignity that they could never possibly hope to master.

Amen to that.

She is a courageous woman. I salute her honesty and bravery in the face of muslims and liberals

re: #167 arf

>>Actually, if there could be said to be such a thing as a gay version of Aayan Hirsi Ali, I think of Bruce Bawer, the journalist who wrote the fantastic "While Europe Slept" which is REQUIRED READING for all LGF lizards.

Same here. I know my share of gays who are to the right of me, at least with respect to law and order issues and certain international issues.

I get the CBC, I gotta see if I can find that idiot and look at his show, if I'm low on aggravation someday, and need a little more.

I liked his line about needing to be fantastically rich to get power in the USA.

Clinton was middle-class. Reagan was well-to-do, I'd hardly call him fantastically rich. Same with Nixon. Eisenhower was retired military. Harry Truman had problems keeping two residences (Washington and Missouri) when he was Senator. Hoover became rich through his own effort, started out as an orphan, shipped from Iowa to live with relatives in Oregon.

The richer Presidents of recent times were on the left. FDR and JFK come to mind. If Kerry had won, he'd have been one of the richest Presidents. Still, when you look at it, it's rather remarkable how many Presidents come from relatively modest means.

All that being said, if someone has what it takes to be President, and is now middle-aged to older...if that person hasn't managed to accumulate some money along the way, something's wrong.

Current campaign finance laws make it MORE likely that only the rich will be able to pursue office. McCain-Feingold should be scrapped.

Interestingly enough, Lyndon Johnson was lower middle class at best but acquired power through a fantastic native sense of politics.

He became quite wealthy through the corrupt use of power which he had acquired through native skills, not wealth. This is the exact opposite of what that superficial creep Lewis said.

Ironically, Avi Lewis, acquired his TV show through his own family inheritance of connections, the lefty good-old-boy network, not through any intelligence on his part- he obviously possesses none of that.

re: #184 BabbaZee

But it is also a legitimate tactic of opinion makers. For instance the grouping of only semi related communities to increase their numbers. (i.e. Gays and Lesbians, Black and Hispanic, etc.) The aim of the gay mafiosi is to make the not actually mainstream appear to be the norm. Inflating their numbers does this. The whole "10 percent of the world is gay" is pure unadulterated garbage. The actual number hovers around 3 percent. I have to go get the reference for that since no doubt someone will demand it in a second-but that was a reliable number last year or so.
It is a political issue that has become urban legend. Like most liberal nonsense if they say it often enough it feels true.

re: #193 mrsoc

Precisely what I was talking about when I said "politicizing the personal ala Gramsci"
He invented this so called "counter hegemony"
and I am at war with it.

re: #178 mrsoc

I also recently returned from a visit to Montreal.

Unfortunately, I could not say I had the same impression as yourself after leaving... Just a small walk through town, and I found myself face to face with rabid anti-Israel moonbats protesting outside of an Indigo books. They had a big banner and leaflets, and were certainly what I would expect from Montreal. They were monotonous, and in zombie mode so they didn't even bother to reply to me.

Sigh, the French, what're ya gonna do?

re: #195 Logan

I wonder if it helps or hurts that I travel with my 6'2" spouse and his 6'5" brother, and a 3 year old and my other sister in law and my mother in law. Yeah, you're right-they could have been throwing camel dung at me and I might not have noticed. LOL>

"stole 2 elections"...

That really is ground zero for the moonbats. Al "sore loser" Gore started the moonbat insanity and people that worked on his campaign have perpetuated it as a way to energize the kool-aid left...now look at it. Loony asshats in Canada believe it as truth...

"You can spit on freedom, because you grew up with it."
In the words of that old video arcade game: BODY BLOW! BODY BLOW! What a geneal tool this Lewis guy is, and what a wonderful messenger AHA is. The problem is that she speaks for (conservative) American policy better than the dopes in the White House press office.

Interviewer: "Is there a school where they teach you these American cliches?"

Unfortunately, no. Most of our educational system has been hijacked by the same ultra-left wing agenda under which this interview has been conducted. This is true even in the U.S., and certainly the western world as a whole.

I must say the cool, eloquent commentary on the true nature of Islam in the face of an agenda slanted against her by Ayaan Hirsi Ali is inspirational to me. This is also an eye-opening study on anti-Americanism in the Canadian media. An interesting watch.

"You can spit on freedom, because you grew up with it."
The quintessential rotating title.

re: #200 mrsoc

"You can spit on freedom, because you grew up with it."
The quintessential rotating title.

CHARLES~

yes...you must, you must.

"You can only get to higher office in America if you are obscenely wealthy"
(Or words to those effect).

Jimmy Carter, a middle class peanut farmer who became president.
Bill Clinton, who grew up poor in a troubled household.
Rudy Giuliani, grew up blue collar as well as the son of a petty hood. Got his degree from Manhattan College.
John Edwards, who (as he says every chance he gets) was the son of a mill worker and the first in his family to go to college.
Richard Nixon, the son of a lower middle class family who had to work his way through college and law school.

I know not all of these politicians are favorites here, but it still shows the idea that social mobility doesn't exist in America is nonsense.

And I didn't even mention some other Politicians, like Orrin Hatch, who lived for a time in a chicken coop.

Avi, Avi, Avi you were Bitch slapped and put to sleep in such an effective manner you didn't even know it. You need to watch that interview buddy and learn from it. If you weren't such a closed minded clone of what passes for liberalism today you would learn from that courageous lady.

Avi Lewis is a true blue nincompoop. He uses 'big' words in a completely meaningless jumble. i.e.: " Do you have any idea what it does to social discourse, implications?" could be his default phrase for anything from "who won the ball game?" to "please pass the salt".

His mommy told him he was smart way too many times. The guy is a pretentious idiot.

Ayaan Hirsi, on the other hand, is clearly intelligent; well informed; composed and fully coherent. What on earth is she doing talking with this moron?

She is just fantastic... So well spoken! I'd like to see her get involved in American politics.

What an amazing contrast.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is brilliant and heroic.

and Avi Lewis is an absolute ass.

Loved her. Hated him.

re: #195 LoganThe writers of Cheers would probably feel right at home here. They appear to hate the French as much as the people here do.

re: #185 patrickutoronto

Wow, what a totally dishonest clip from the Ali interview. He ends the interview with her stating "everyone is a little bit racist". Just like any other leftist everything opinion he has is bolstered by misinformation or self imposed ignorance.

She's soft-spoken and brilliant. I'm glad she's in the U.S. too but I don't agree with other posters here who think that she needs to believe in jesus in order to be a whole person. I'd like to know where this Christian arrogance is coming from.

re: #210 eclectic infidel

WhoTF said she needs to believe in Jesus?
No one that I read

re: #193 mrsoc

re: #184 BabbaZee

But it is also a legitimate tactic of opinion makers. For instance the grouping of only semi related communities to increase their numbers. (i.e. Gays and Lesbians, Black and Hispanic, etc.) The aim of the gay mafiosi is to make the not actually mainstream appear to be the norm. Inflating their numbers does this. The whole "10 percent of the world is gay" is pure unadulterated garbage. The actual number hovers around 3 percent. I have to go get the reference for that since no doubt someone will demand it in a second-but that was a reliable number last year or so.
It is a political issue that has become urban legend. Like most liberal nonsense if they say it often enough it feels true.

The actual statistics of 'gayness' are few and far between. Kinsey's number is 10%. But we found out a few years ago that Kinsey conducted his research in prisons and psychiatric hospitals in the late 40's early 50's, and also weighted his studies with numbers of college students (more sexually active than the populace as a whole) disproprotionately. His numbers were baked, broiled and stir-fried to make them congruent with his own sexual predilictions.

The actual number of gay people in America is much harder to determine. The 3% number you mention comes from a University of Chicago study in the early 90's. There were two problems with this study: again college students were its primary subjects AND the margin of error for the study was over 3%. Persons selected for the interview sometimes refused to answer any question whatsoever about their sexual activities--even when offered rewards of up to $200.

Further, a lot of people (homo- and hetero-) are too old, too young or otherwise have not had sexual activity of any kind in years and years. A lot of people live with aging parents, for example. And if there has been no activity in many years, how can you call a person hetero- OR homo-?

The official department of the Census number (2000) qualified only 'heads of households'. This number was 0.4% for males and 0.3% for femails...a fantastically low number.

The best number that I have seen is the Center for Disease Control. Probation/parole officers ask certain health questions of people who are on probabtion/parole. The advantage of this technique is that it is involuntary--the interviewees HAVE to answer the question(s). The disadvantage is that the question was only asked of drug users. So the validity of the number depends on how you view the drug culture in the US. Does it truly reflect all the statistical variations of adults?

The CDC has one really good question on this form, and they have asked of 10's of thousands of times for many, many years. The question is "Have you had consensual genital sexual contact with a person of the same gender withing the last 12 months"? The CDC, of course, is trying to get a handle on Hepatitis B, which is transmitted by sexual contact. But it is a good rough indicator of how many homosexuals are in this country. The number is 1.4% for men, and 1.2% for women. This number is demonstrated in a number of indirect ways, but I am running out of space in this post to discuss them.

The question is a good one, since it is only indirectly about sexual orientation. And it emphasizes the previous 12 months, and BEHAVIOR, not ORIENTATION. I don't know what 'orientation' is, but behavior is an observable activity.

Therefore I submit that about 1.3% of Americans have had consensual genital contact with a person of the same gender within the past 12 months. From a population of 300 million Americans, this makes 3.9 million persons who have exhibited homosexual behavior in the last 12 months. This number is BELOW the standard of error in any legitimate study. But its a a number as good as it gets...a very, very small one.

"A classic immigrant story..."

I actually laughed a little when he said that because he had just mentioned that she was mutulated and was going to be forced to marry a stranger (in Canada, no less). She instead was forced to abandon everyone she knew, flee to a foreign nation, and work in a factory.

Ahh... the classic immigrant tale. What a loser.

#206 Lawrence Schmerel

What an amazing contrast.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is brilliant and heroic.

and Avi Lewis is an absolute ass.

Couldn't have said it any better.

Man, she totally owned him. That lady has balls!

1) Hirsi Ali is one of those people to whom I could listen for all hours of the day. Watching this was like candy.

2) I'm a Canadian and frequent the CBC regularly, and even I've never heard of this moonbat. And I'm a news junkie.

3) Yeah, Lewis is a jackass, as evidenced by his apparent inability to do anything beyond ridiculing and insinuating brainwashing in his guest. BUT... please, for the love of frick, don't take this to be exemplary of all Canadians.

4) Enough of the "France lite" comments... espeically when some of the most badass soldiers in the world are part of an elite French-Canadian regiment... currently doing some major heavy lifting in Afstan, by the way.

210 eclectic infidel:I'd like to know where this Christian arrogance is coming from.

I'm a Christian, because I believe in Jesus.
But as an American also, I am proud of our rule of law that protects everyone no matter what sexual orientation you are or what religion you are.
I could care less what ADULTS chose to believe, I'll leave it to GOD to judge them, it's not my job.

But I will stand up and fight for my beliefs if they are abused, like liberals wanting to step in and DO MY job with talking about sex with my YOUNG kids.

DAMN, I just came in here to read all the Ayaan praise!
I'm proud of her no matter if she believes in God or not!

re: #210 eclectic infidel

She's soft-spoken and brilliant. I'm glad she's in the U.S. too but I don't agree with other posters here who think that she needs to believe in jesus in order to be a whole person. I'd like to know where this Christian arrogance is coming from.

This post is still pissing me off.

I asked you a question and I get crickets and tumbleweeds from you.

Quote a poster directly or face the petardo* of us not knowing where your "secular arrogance" is coming from.

For instance my post said something like
(or maybe exactly like)

may God Bless her every move even though she does not believe in him yet.

Which indicates I believe in God deeply,
I want my GOD to bless her every move
despite that fact that she has her back to Him right now as an avowed atheist.

Nowhere does it say she "has to come to Jesus to be a whole person"

and nowhere does it say I call myself a "Christian"

and nowhere is the word "Jesus" in the post

Maybe there is a post here that says

'She has to come to Jesus to be a whole person" that I missed?

I doubt it highly
but if there is
you damn well better quote it before throwing out bullshit accusations and calling people on this thread arrogant Christians.

If you must know, I am a Radical Jewtian Heretic, the last of the Moshiachans, a Feral Remnantian, a Walker in the Way.

Categorize and pre-judge that shit.

petardo* ~ A fool who gets hoisted on his own petard

Distinctly Canadian Trash. Asi attempted to educate him. Doesn't appear possible.

re: #219 shane

Distinctly Canadian Trash.

Nah ...
We have plenty of trash just like that right here in America.

what a buttwipe! he needs to live in gaza for a few weeks! typical head up the ass canadian liberal, and i say this with great pain, jew.

"...you grew up in freedom so you can spit on freedom" Ali to Avi.

Good Shabbos.

That's Avi. He's a dick.

re: #221 9/11 Repub

what a buttwipe! he needs to live in gaza for a few weeks! typical head up the ass canadian liberal, and i say this with great pain, jew.

He needs to live in Sderot.

Ali floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee!

Shabbat Shalom LGF

later

Shabbat Shalom!

re: #224 luzbone

bet you he's never been to the middle east...it's high time...he's not worth one hair on shalit's head.

Moonbat. Eh?

Shazbot Shalom!

/Mork from Ork, Nanu-nanu

Lewis’ unquestioned faith in his leftist anti-American cant is unshakable

You got that one right. What a moonbat that guy is.

This interviewer is just regurgitating talking points and is apparently unaware of his boundless ignorance. Ayaan Hirsi Ali's brilliance is intoxicating. Just who she is and what she has done disarms the leftists, but rarely can anyone tear the leftists' ideological blanket away from them.

Feel free to leave the turd Mr. Lewis a comment on his website.

Or maybe a comment to his boss.

re: #152 June_July

Avi Lewis is a scion of the first family of Canadian Leftards.

His grandfather created the closest thing we have to a communist party in Canada, the NDP.

His father was a leader of the NDP and has subsequently participated in a variety of UN activities.

His mother is a shrill lefty columnist for the most left wing major paper in the country (the Toronto Star). It's painful to read her work sometimes. It's painful to read that paper sometimes. It's painful to live in Toronto much of the time.

I doubt that poor boy's brain ever had a chance - it was probably awash in left dogmatic fluid while still in utero, breast fed with left-leaning milk, ate Lefty pablum as a child, and nothing but Canadian Bacon and left-tilted eggs for breakfast.

I truly doubt he is islamophobic. Probably all the muslims he knows are doctors, lawyers, and throughougly westernized. If that was Islam, there would probably be no problem. The However, Islam these days is the other ones, the ones who are breeding and hating, they are future of Islam. He only sees them when they cab him around or clean his lawn, and probably he does not even see them as people. He belongs to the political elite of Canada, went to the top private school in the country, and lived in the most exclusive neighbourhoods.

But they see him, a nice rich Jewish boy, and those bearded Omars and Mohammads are looking forward to the time when payback comes around against the rich powerful JOOOS life Avi. We'll see where the Lewis family runs too... who wants to guess they will run to the US?

Me.

June_July, you certainly put that very well. Avi Lewis in not merely a moonbat, he's a pedigreed moonbat. Pity there's no market for moonbat chicks pups kittens cubs spawn. OK, dammit, what DO you call the offspring of moonbats?

She schooled his ass in the last minute. Ouch.

She has tons more patience than I would have ever had.

I wouldn't have made it half way through the interview before I would have responded to one of his idiotic questions with "What are you a F%$KING MORON?"

He reminds me of my gay cousin who has no clue that it is the American army that keeps his alternative lifestyle safe from those who would stone him to death.

I started to watch it and Ali was well spoken and dignified.

Then Numbnuts started taliking and i had to shut it down. "Evangilical Christians ascending to the highest positions of power in the USA" etc etc.

Cretin. Equating a practicing Christian (ie he goes to church) to a theocacy that wants to impose Sharia.

I live in Canada and unfortunately, anti-americanism is rampant. Intelligent, smart, educated people will believe any scenario that paints the USA in a bad light, as impossible as any scenario it sounds.

When you counter with facts they just don't know how to deal with it, get angry and start the name-calling. It is imbedded.

I have a few friends who see it all. A minority. They know the UN has turned into an anti-US and Israel farce. A buddy o'mine's wife is Jewish and a big supporter of Israel. It's almost weird to be able to talk international politics with fellow Canadians that doesn't degenerate into calling Bush and the USA names.

I know there are more like us in Canada, probably the 50% sane. Unfortunately we don't have anything like FOX news or talk radio. There are a few newspaper that dare, but are still giving the balanced view by having moonbats write columns.

It won't go away when Bush goes away either. People here (the moonbats) don't even seem to know there are 2 parties. To them, the USA is just this big monolithic evil corporate giant. Their brain cherry-picks facts and fantasy to make the US evil and forgets all the good stuff (like humanitarian aid, etc.)

Presently the media stays off the back of our troops, because the population clearly supports them. They dutifully report every death in Afghanistan, film every funeral, hoping the incessant body count will turn public opinion.

I just don't know why people here are so anti-american. They don't hate individuals... just the country in general and all its ever done.

I hope (and assume on good days) that it's just the small minority of moonbats and the liberal media that makes it sound worse than it is, just like in the US.

I have not read all the comments, but I'd like to point out that:

Avi Lewis is the son of the Great Egalitarian and the Great Orator, Stephen Lewis.

Personal arse-licker of Coffee Enema and Butros Butros Butros BUTROS Gali.

Avi is married to the uber-moonbat, Naomi Klein.

That whole family are the Royalty of the Moonbat Canadian Left.

Useless parasites.

#216 is correct. Lay off the France light.

Or take it to a hockey game against the Vingt-deux. They just rotated into Afghanistan. And not into one of the safe provinces like other NATO deadwood.

The Taliban are about to find out they have nothing to do with France. Watch your mouth around them.

re: #47 eastvillageinfidel

I like the way the note STABBED into Theo Van Goghs' chest was described as "pinned to his body".

EXACTLY. I want to make sure everyone notices that! Avi said, and I quote: "pinned to his body"...

GOOD GOD MAN! One pins a boutonniere to a sport coat, one pins a name tag onto a lapel, one pins a tie! This is outright f$$%$% silly...

unf$%%^believable...

Despite having had a FGM done on her, she has more balls than any of the democrats in congress. It (of course) goes without saying that she exceeds both all the democrats and many of the republicans in the brains department too. Too bad she cannot run for president.

re: #210 eclectic infidel
Dude, you mess with the Babba you get the horns. The woman is the least arrogant person I have ever read. OK now, say sorry.

#234, Alberta Oil Peon:

"We'll see where the Lewis family runs too... who wants to guess they will run to the US?.."

Stephen, the Useless Parasite, lives in New York City, along with his equally useless, Parasite wife.

I'll bet you 2 Bolivian pesos the rest of that useless Parasite family all have Green Cards.

Spit, vomit.

I'm glad that LGF featured this video so you can see for yourself what a putrid pile of sh*t the CBC is up here, and Avi Lewis is one of the worst.

"They shoot abortion doctors in the US" Everytime I hear that line I want to puke.

Hey dumbass, is it a matter of public policy ? When was the last time a doctor was shot ?

I'm so mad I could kick that son of bitch right in his (tiny) balls

You know, I heard what Avi Lewis said. it just wasn't that important. I t was idiotic. It was hard to take him seriously. I can't really even get mad at him. But then whenever I see Ayaan Hirsi Ali in a video I can't stop thinking about her for weeks. I guess that's a problem.

I've never heard of Avi Lewis before, but thank goodness this tool lives in Canada and not my homeland, the USA.

If this jackass thinks the US is so defective, he should try Saudi Arabia sometime.

Ali Hirsi has more class in her little finger than this poor bastard will ever know.

My new favorite quote -

"You grew up in Freedom, so you can spit on freedom. You don't know what it's like to not have it."

What an a$$kicking by Ayaan!

Heard about this on the Mike Rosen radio show a few days ago; Hirsi Ali handed Lewis an uncontested smack-down.

But come on, Charles -- what's with crediting Lewis as a "Canadian über-progressive"? Call it like it is: he's an unapologetic, big time Lefty. Using the stock euphemism "progressive" is the Left's semantic tactic -- let's not fall into the trap of using that weak term.

I liked her comment to this asshat - "You grew up in freedom, so you can spit on freedom because you do not know any different" or to that effect, if it's not exact...This Avi Lewis is a serious dickhead. He wouldn't know reality if it clubbed him on the head like a baby seal!

I watched the clip, knowing nothing about Avi Lewis.

Whatever his real life politics are, he did a good job
as a foil for Ms. Ali. The interview wasn't adversarial:
Ali wants to be understood.

Lewis' role as an interviewer is to allow Ali to express herself
with the greatest clarity. He trots out the "they shoot
abortion doctors here" vignette, which he must know has
the response "we put them in jail." Yet, this exchange
allows Ali to state a key difference between US civil
society and Sharia rule.

I'm sorry Lewis stuck to the cliche counters to Ali.
That's mostly a consequence of television's
abasement of intellectual content generally.
An exploration of the spectrum of Islam as a
set of meditations and metaphorical world view, to
Islam as a call to instant murderous jihad
would have been interesting: where exactly
does a movement cease to be protected as
a religion?

(I want objective characteristics we can
legislate, and enforce, whether by the military
abroad or judges and juries here. The "I know it
when I see it" test hasn't been effective enough.)

ocelot

As a Canadian, I feel compelled to defend Lewis... no I don't. Too many people thinking like him up here.

Hard to be calm when you're wrong; AHA doesn't have that problem.

I've been to some truly shitty places in this world. This Avi Lewis character probably hasn't been anywhere but the penthouse suites in London and Paris. He probably won't want to "dirty his dainty, pedicured feet" by coming to the USA. Hey, Lewis, take a tour of Saudi Arabia. Sudan. Libya. Zimbabwe. North Korea. You probably couldn't find these places on a globe without the assistance of a third grader.

"You were born in freedom so you can spit on freedom"
Take that you smug little (bleep)

He is Mr. Naomi Klein of "No Logo" fame. What do you expect?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Hey canadian ass-fk...when was the last time an abortion doctor was actually shot in America? How long until you update your talking points?

re: #212 Geekasaurus

There you go throwing facts and logic into the conversation. don't you realize that it's no, a peaceful loving ecumeinical associationt the facts that count here? It's the perception. Next you'll be telling us that there aren't 7 million moslems in the US and that CAIR is ...well, CAIR, a peaceful, loving ecumenical association.
Please don't try to disturb or cloud the accepted troofer facts with real facts. It makes it harder for them to push their agendas.
sarc

Lewis started the interview, "Give us your critique of Islam"

She could have picked up her dress and ended the interview right there.

#216 nails it. This guy probably lost part of his audience after emitting that stream of non-sequitors. He obviously isn't going to be highly rated.

I should point out, late in this discussion, that Hirsi Ali is already a Resident Fellow at AEI, and if you don't know what that means, it means she's already an esteemed person at one of the most powerful and influential think tanks on the planet.

Thank God!

While she may not like that exhortation, it's merely my relief at where she's found herself, in the heart of democracy and an integral part of one of the most measured bodies of thinkers and difference-makers that can be found anywhere.

She's exactly where she needs to be, for now.

ahhh, yes, avi, i would care about those "stolen elections" (plural, btw) but, you see, as a "successful american" i'm "staggeringly wealthy," so therefore i orchestrated those corrupt elections -- bwahahahahahahhhah! Hey jackass, get your geography straight: this is america, not mexico!

my god, this overly-educated noam chumpsky disciple is a walking sterotype, isn't he? the only thing missing from this clown is the shiny red nose. she nailed his sorry ass at every turn!

FUCK YOU AVI LEWIS, YOU AND YOUR FUCKING WIFE!

Apologies. Had to get that out. Never sworn on LGF before but this time that smug, smarmy, condescending, pompous little prick deserved it. G-d almighty what AN ASSHOLE! But she was magnificent. She ripped him a new one. Beautiful.

His wife, that "expletive" bitch Naomi Klein is one of the most anti-Israel bashers out there. G-d willing there is a special place in Hell reserved for them. They are the WORST!

btw, the most insightful comments in this thread are from canadian lgf'ers - good to see we have some sane (and lolyal) friends up north, that it's not just a frozen san francisco!
also, someone made a crack about canada and ww2. truth of the matter is the canadians fought ferociously for the cause of freedom back in the day, a fact this avi prick would probably be loathe to acknowledge.

Ok, thread synopsis so far: A classy AHA schools Canadian moonbat. No argument from me. But here's my question...If Lewis recognized he had his ass handed to him on a silver platter, why on earth did he run that clip? It wasn't live, so he didn't have to subject himself to a nationwide (Canadian) spanking. Does anyone think the CBC had no other choice but to run that video? I submit that they ran it because they think they won! Lewis got to repeat all his canards, and make smarmy remarks about the beliefs of an "archconservative." The only people swayed by that interview were the fence sitters...

Well, my first exposure to Avi Lewis has made it clear he is a arrogant moonbat. What a condescending prick? Could he possibly have uttered more anti-American Rhetoric in an interview about Islam?

I love how he became so upset with Ayaan Hirsi Ali's factual and first hand experiences that he fumbled his cards and had to insult her. Did I mention he was an arrogant prick? How about full disclosure of his leftist tunnel vision, conspiracy-believing moronic self? If he intended to push his agenda and insult his guest, maybe he could elaborate on where he obtained his absurd beliefs about the USA.

As someone above mentioned, the dip shit was so full of himself, he didn't even realize that Ayaan Hirsi Ali wiped the floor with him.

re: #263 HL Mencken

also, someone made a crack about canada and ww2. truth of the matter is the canadians fought ferociously for the cause of freedom back in the day, a fact this avi prick would probably be loathe to acknowledge.

Exactly! Let's not sound like Avi Lewis. I assume not all Canadians are like him.

The nice thing about having a keen intellect and a sharper wit is that, just like Avi-boy, your foe is left standing there, holding his throbbing spleen in his hands before he's even aware he's been cut.

She was on him like a sushi chef on a marlin.

I think I'm in love.

For you non-Canadians who may not be familiar with Avi Lewis, he comes from tight-knit clan of noted hard core leftists.

His father, Stephen Lewis, once Canada's ambassador to the U.N. was also the Ontario provincial leader of the NDP, our lovely socialist party. His mother, Michele Landsberg, is a well known leftist-feminist columnist who could make your blood boil with her idiocy. And, for the cherry on top, he's married to Naomi Klein, author of the anti-globalization bible "No Logo.'

The fact that Avi Lewis has a show on CBC in the first place perfectly illustrates everything that's wrong with the Toronto media/CBC/socialist elite. It's all very much en famille, as it were.

Stromboulopouos is another annoying reflexive lefty, but times I've seen him, he does manage to show his guests a little more respect than Lewis showed Ali. (Favourite Strombo moment was the time he had porn's Ron Jeremy on, and Jeremy started on a rant about how he didn 't worry so much about AIDS because it was the really result of unprotected anal sex between men, and George very quickly had to change the subject.)

Red diaper babies seldom grow up and start thinking for themselves (David Horowitz being the grand exception) as what leftists inculcate with mother's milk is unquestioning obedience to the party line and lack of all critical thought along with massive self-esteem devoid of any actual accomplishments. (Notice the identical upbringing for Muslims). These two totalitarianisms dance well together for a time.

You'll note that one is stupider than the other though, suicidally so. The lefty, often a Jewish self-styled intellectual always has the Islamist's back. There is nothing he will not excuse, including 9/11 on the basis that "We Americans had it coming", strapping bombs onto children, honor killings and sawing through prisoners' necks for TV consumption. It's all completely justifiable and will apparently stop as soon as Palestinians have their second state after Jordan.

On the other hand, the Muslim makes little secret of the fact that Jews are toast followed by a long list of others. Muslims don't pretend to decry anti-semitism, they publish it on a daily basis in all their news media! Meanwhile, Jews such as Avi Lewis and his Munster family (complete inversion of bad and good) are crying about Islamophobia and the poor widdle N. American Muslims who were apparently snatched out of operating rooms where they were performing life-saving surgery, or courtrooms where they were defending the indigent or from engineering architectural wonders (instead of levelling them), only to imprison these innocent humanitarians in Guantanamo FOR NO REASON!

Never have so many done so much so willingly to help those whose stated and express goal is to subjugate and/or kill them.

It's truly the conundrum of our age. Liberalism IS apparently a mental disorder, one over-ruling the survival instinct.

Sorry, looks like I was beaten to punch by Alberta Oil Peonwho goes even further back in the family history.

"You have grown up in freedom so you can spit on freedom" said quietly with a half smile. Wow, she nailed that little sucker Avi. Poor blighter wasn't even aware that he was being lobotomized as he bravely soldiered on to correct this poor misguided woman's naive view of the USA.

Wow. I almost feel bad for Avi Lewis, the way he's being dismembered on TV.

Almost.