Ballsy.

Wow I just emailed this to you Charles - you were ahead of me.

They got him. GOOD!

Good Riddance.

That idiot left behind a pregnant wife and child.

Yes, let's go to the video tape. Let's also make note that one of the Arab MK's made the claims that this incident was nothing less than the murder of Khatib - that he was shot once he was down.

When the incident was first broadcast, some witnesses claimed that the guard had shot and killed Khatib once he was already down. This allegation was later repeated by Arab Knesset member Ahmed Tibi, but as can be seen, is not evident from the video.

The video shows otherwise.

Before the screen darkens the worthy young man is still pointing his weapon. If he was shot again, I'd say it was his own damn fault.

The terrorist's family are wailing that he was completely innocent, had done nothing, and was killed for no reason.

So shall we assume that this tape is faked?

Shoul have put the whole clip in him!

Wow, just finished watching the video at JPost, came over to LGF to post the link and...while I was watching it, Charles made it a thread!

re: #7 Clio

The terrorist's family are wailing that he was completely innocent, had done nothing, and was killed for no reason.

So shall we assume that this tape is faked?

No... killing the Infidel is not a crime in their universe.

From Audie Murphy's WWII memoir "To Hell and Back"...

Barnes: Oh, my God! I shot somebody!
Murphy: Shoot him again--he's still alive!

The video quality is amazing -- at first I thought it must have been a re-creation, filmed professionally, because everything was so clear.

Makes the surveillance cameras in England look like shite.

Those Jews know how to do security cams.

re: #9 zombie

Boggled my mind as well. :-)

Afterwards the screen darkens and it is unclear whether or not the guards shoot him again - as his family claims they did.

Claims they did? If they didn't blow his head off, they were very foolish indeed.

Afterwards the screen darkens and it is unclear whether or not the guards shoot him again - as his family claims they did.

to use a quote from the left in a context to which it truly belongs:

"Screw them"

Wow...very compelling. Excellent picture quality. I agree with zombie...

re: #6 prospero

Before the screen darkens the worthy young man is still pointing his weapon. If he was shot again, I'd say it was his own damn fault.

If the suspect is still trying to kill you, keep shooting until he stops.

Seems perfectly logical and reasonable to me.

The terrorist was later identified as Ahmed Mahmoud Khatib, 29, from Kafr Manda in the Western Galilee. [Emphasis mine. --ZY]

Ah, but it's all about the territories taken in 1967. Right? Right?

Described as "an Arab youth" aged 29.

"Arab youth"?

29 years old?

Pretty elastic definition of "youth", if you ask me.

(But then again, I may want to make use of a pretty elastic definition of "middle-aged" some day!)

I was so scared your honor, I kept firing until there were no more bullets!

re: #15 John Schneider

Afterwards the screen darkens and it is unclear whether or not the guards shoot him again - as his family claims they did.

to use a quote from the left in a context to which it truly belongs:

"Screw them"

Ah, such deep sentiment. My feelings exactly.

You could see clearly in one segment where the security guard would have been dead had the terrorist been able to figure out the safety faster.

I for one say good riddance. The terrorist started it and the objects of the aggression ended it. So he left behind a pregnant wife and child. Big deal. He should have thought of them before he did what he did. At least the tax payers will not have to pay his upkeep in jail now.

Quality video. More importantly, high quality shooting by the guards, who did get a compliment from the officials on their actions.

What's the 411 behind this?

Wait, I can guess...peaceful terrorist, oh sorry, freedom fighter, walking along trhe street when he is attacted for no reason by a bunch of jew pigs...got it.

As far as I'm concerned, that's one less terrorist/splodeydope in the world.

Suits me fine.

Boggles my mind the way people just ducked for cover and watched the proceedings. Americans would probably have been in full headless-chicken frenzy. Obviously, unfortunately, Israeli get more practice.

Real dictators.

BERLIN - The agency that manages the records of former East Germany's dreaded secret police has uncovered an order for border guards to fire on escaping citizens that is far more explicit than others on record, an official said in remarks published Saturday.

Though the official East German border regulations said use of a firearm was to be considered an "extreme measure in the use of force," the Oct. 1, 1973 order to border guards from the Ministry for State Security, or Stasi, is much less reserved, Magdeburg's Volksstimme newspaper reported.

"Do not hesitate with the use of a firearm, including when the border breakouts involve women and children, which the traitors have already frequently taken advantage of," the order instructed.

SNIP

re: #20 MAOZ (Middle-Aged Of Zion)

"Arab youth"?

29 years old?

Pretty elastic definition of "youth", if you ask me.

It is as elastic as the current MSM "narrative" needs it to be: if he was shot by Israeli police, he's a "youth" even if he's 40.

What's all but missing in the Header? It clearly shows the LOUD claims of murder to be lies.

re: #27 prospero

Boggles my mind the way people just ducked for cover and watched the proceedings. Americans would probably have been in full headless-chicken frenzy. Obviously, unfortunately, Israeli get more practice.

Indeed.

Who cares if they shot the terrorist again, as his family claims. Screw the terrorist and screw his family. Dead is good in this case.

Looks like they shot him in the arse.

re: #27 prospero

Boggles my mind the way people just ducked for cover and watched the proceedings. Americans would probably have been in full headless-chicken frenzy. Obviously, unfortunately, Israeli get more practice.

Depends on the location of the shooting. In most American urban centers, quickly and efficiently ducking for cover is a well-practiced art.

GO JOOOS!

How did that terrorist miss at point blank ranger? Man that guard was lucky.

BTW, these rent-a-cops need retraining re: situational awareness, securing weapons, and yakking vs. guarding.

re: #34 Spiny Norman

quickly and efficiently ducking for cover is a well-practiced art

Washington D.C.?

re: #20 MAOZ (Middle-Aged Of Zion)

"Arab youth"?

29 years old?

Pretty elastic definition of "youth", if you ask me.

(But then again, I may want to make use of a pretty elastic definition of "middle-aged" some day!)

I agree! 29 yrs old is NOT YOUTH!

And this would be murderer's wife and family will now receive State benefits from the Israeli taxpayer.

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

1,000 In Terrorist's Funeral

(IsraelNN.com) About 1,000 people participated Sunday in the funeral of the terrorist who was killed in Jerusalem's Old City on Friday. The funeral was held at his home village of Kafr Manda, near Haifa. The man grabbed a gun from a security guard in Jerusalem Friday and shot him, before being shot dead himself.

Some of the people held signs that said "bring the killers to justice," and chanted nationalist and Islamist slogans.

Israeli citizens

So what if they shot him again. He was trying to kill them. Also looks to me that he have had some problems with the safety.

More info...

According to local news over here (Israel), the entire firefight between the guard in white (Alex) and the terrorist lasted about 5 minutes, many shots were fired and about 10 people were caught in the crossfire and injured (they didn't elaborate on the extent of the injuries, but said they were minor [ricochets probably]), after which the firefight ended with the terrorist dead, and Alex running back to his mate to check up on him.
In an interview with the injured security guard he had a visible wound in the left shoulder where he was shot at point-blank and he said that without the other guard reacting as fast as he did, both - and many more - would have been dead.

I was just there in June, and I walked through some of the alleyways of the old city. Felt completely safe, but now I know "safety" is dependent on the many security guards in the Old City and beyond. The Arab quarter merchants can't be happy about this, since they rely on tourists (Jewish tourists, too) for their livelihood. I felt uneasy walking through the Arab Quarter alleyways, especially since some of the stores posted "Free Palestine" pictures in their windows. The pictures showed all of Israel as part of "Palestine." I refused to enter any of those stores. The video shows that there are hidden surveillance cameras throughout the Old City - which is a good thing. Except for buying an extra rolling duffel bag for my souvenirs, I spent my tourists dollars in the Jewish section of the Old City and in Western Jerusalem.

Charles,

I have a suggestion on the REPORT button...I clicked on one instead of QUOTE and almost reported someone here...but luckily you asked ARE YOU SURE? And I pressed CANCEL.

My suggestion is to place REPORT button on the far right corner...away from QUOTE REPLY area...

That is my suggestion! Otherwise, I do like the improvements !

Gunfight at Oy Vey Corral.

Forgot to add - in the footage, just before the "Green shirt" guard falls, the terrorist gunman had a jam, he forgot to remove the safety as the gun was holstered with the safety on.
Without that, the guard would have been probably shot in the face.
According to news commentators.

I need a little scene interpretation, but it looks almost like it was a spur of the moment decision by the perp to wrestle with the security guard (?) and grab the gun. What is the first 30 seconds of the tape anyway, just showing the perp on approach? And yeah, the closing scene still has the perp aiming a weapon. Maybe it was a SBC, if you can tell that from an SJS, either way a sudden urge for death blows in on the perp and takes him to hell.

#26 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
So how was the new guy at the birthday party? lol

re: #44 phillygirl

You are right on the safe part. I felt safe walking around the Old City Jerusalem.

Time for hate is past, Imam asserts

When nine black students desegregated Central High School in Little Rock in 1957, W. Deen Mohammed — the son of the late Nation of Islam leader Elijah Muhammad — said he was “a young minister spitting fire.”

“I was trying to make rational my father’s teaching that the white people are all devils,” Mohammed, 73, recalled Friday

re: #48 itellu3times

I need a little scene interpretation, but it looks almost like it was a spur of the moment decision by the perp to wrestle with the security guard (?) and grab the gun. What is the first 30 seconds of the tape anyway, just showing the perp on approach? And yeah, the closing scene still has the perp aiming a weapon. Maybe it was a SBC, if you can tell that from an SJS, either way a sudden urge for death blows in on the perp and takes him to hell.

Look closely, you can see the terrorist FOLLOWING the guards along the alleyways.

Caught on tape again.

re: #48 itellu3times

He had picked the gun well before the wrestling.

re: #41 pat

I was thinking the same thing about the safety. Although I think it said somewhere that the guard was shot.

Surveillance videos clearly show Ahmad Mahmoud Khatib - perpetrator of the Friday shooting in the Old City of Jerusalem - stealing a gun from a security guard and shooting him

Didn't that idiot realize there are hidden security cameras? Now his widow and children can watch is stupidity over and over again.

#42 NY Nana
In view of this tape that has to be one of the lamest attempts to mange the news ever.

re: #46 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Gunfight at Oy Vey Corral.

LOL!

re: #58 MandyManners

Sometimes to keep from crying, you have to laugh at the utter stupidity of these Arabs.

re: #56 Bobblehead

Cry. Me. A. Rivah.

Ban's over?!

re: #42 NY Nana

More info...

According to the acquaintances, "He was a quiet and introverted person..."

Gotta' watch out for the quiet ones.

Well, heck...if I was a 'youth' at 29, then I must be barely entering middle age now that I'm 50, right?

/and does this mean I have diminished responsibility for my actions, too?

#55 Pdogg
Yeah, I saw that also. But he had to good shot pictures that seem to have evaporated. As you know, every manufacturer put a safety in a slightly different place, and ia slide safety can be hard to find. A trigger safety is slow.

re: #46 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Gunfight at Oy Vey Corral.

Good, velly good

re: #21 miamitech

Heh heh, that's what I say to myself with every shot fired at the range.
But that's not the way they'll fight here, is it?
We've got too many guns in this country.
They're using the courts.

re: #59 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Laughter is one of God's best defense weapons.

I am a proponent of CCTV cameras, and this incident further proves their worth. The arabs cannot turn this into a 'he said, she said' situation..but that doesn't mean they won't do their damndest to try.

If you aren't doing anything wrong? You really don't even notice them after awhile, and at worst? You get caught picking your nose :)

re: #60 WriterMom

My thoughts exactly.

re: #63 Bob's Kid

Well, heck...if I was a 'youth' at 29, then I must be barely entering middle age now that I'm 50, right?

/and does this mean I have diminished responsibility for my actions, too?

Nope. You're not an oppressed Arab.

re: #62 MandyManners

Gotta' watch out for the quiet ones.

Wise beyond your years!

Pathetic and scrawny excuse for a man. Just wandering around calmly as plain as day in the streets just looking for a gun to steal.

re: #62 MandyManners

They are all quiet, deeply religious but not fanatics, gardeners, family men, volunteers at the local animal shelter, recycling kind of dudes.

re: #72 NoSubmission

Don't forget he made the trip all the way down to Jerusalem from the Galilee for his mission.

re: #63 Bob's Kid

How are you?

re: #75 WriterMom

re: #72 NoSubmission

Don't forget he made the trip all the way down to Jerusalem from the Galilee for his mission.

Biggest losers on the face of the Earth if you ask me.

re: #77 NoSubmission

His family is just pissed because he didn't take any Jews with him.

Later, Lizards!

eat it!

this is after Ynet (an ISRAELI news agency) ran this story:
J'lem shooter: Israeli Arab from Galilee

giving credence to the terrorist's families' baseless claims that:

His relatives, acquaintances claim he did not attempt to carry out terror attack: 'The guards are the only ones who say that he tried to snatch the weapon...We are now calling it first-degree murder."'

Well I guest the next step is to bulldoze his house. This is SOP when terrorist from the Palestinian terrortorys suicde bomb Israel but I'm not sure what they do if they live in Israel.

re: #80 Green Helmet Guy
He died? Even dumber than originally suspected.

More Delusion from the Palestinians.
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Late Palestinian Authority chairman Yasser Arafat's blood contained the deadly HIV virus, Arafat's personal physician told Jordanian media over the weekend. Dr. Ashraf al-Kurdi stressed, however, that Arafat did not die of AIDS - which is caused by the virus.

Jordanian news site Amman quoted al-Kurdi - a former Jordanian health ministry official - as saying that the virus had been injected into Arafat's bloodstream close to his death, and that the real cause of the chairman's death was poison.

re: #66 mean Gene

when I was 18 my friends mom who was a federal magistrate said, if you are in fear of your life you should keep shooting until there are no more bullets. Then in court there wont be the "bad guy" alive trying to sue you.

Some folks on the left say to me that it is SO UNFAIR AND INHUMANE that the Arabs get searched thoroughly at the border crossing and even at the airport (they guy in front of me at the TEL AVIV Airport was a Muslim and was pulled to the side to get a thorough search while with me they asked me a few questions like what I was going to do in the country and etc and he waved me in.

re: #70 MandyManners

re: #63 Bob's Kid

Well, heck...if I was a 'youth' at 29, then I must be barely entering middle age now that I'm 50, right?

/and does this mean I have diminished responsibility for my actions, too?

Nope. You're not an oppressed Arab.

Darn.

It's hell when you don't have anything to whine about and have to be, you know...responsible for your actions?

Bummer.

re: #84 miamitech

re: #66 mean Gene

whenI was 18 my friends mom who was a federal magistrate said, if you arein fear of your life you should keep shooting until there are no morebullets. Then in court there wont be the "bad guy" alive trying to sueyou.

Good point! Or a live killer bent on revenge because you shot him back...and he needs to finish you.

‘They came to kill me’
Bangladeshi writer Taslima Nasreen tells Chitra Sanam reacting to the attack by MIM (Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen) MLAs at the Press Club in Hyderabad. The writer was there to release the Telugu version of her book, Shodh.

Did you expect this kind of reaction?

Not at all. But I was surprised that the organisers hadn’t made any arrangements for police protection. Wherever I go and whenever I face a crowd, I always have police protection for me. This has been the case since I was issued the fatwa. There have been several hate campaigns. This is the first time that there was no protection I was shocked because this was a dangerous situation. They didn’t come to hurl things at me; they came to kill me. But I survived it.

Clarification - With images
(Red circle - Guards / Blue circle - Terrorist)

Scene 1 : Terrorist following Guards in alley #1

Scene 2 : Terrorist following Guards in same alley

Scene 3 : Guards in alley #2

Scene 4 : Terrorist following Guards in alley #2

Scene 5 : Terrorist following Guards in alley #3 (SAME FRAME!)

Scene 6 : Terrorist following Guards in alley #4

Scene 7 : Guard running back to his fellow guard to check on him after TERRORIST IS DOWN. This is to debunk the claim he shot him after he was down.

Charles, I'd be happy if you post this as an update on the front page, thanks.

Egyptian Villagers Explain Why They Circumcise Their Daughters
[Link: www.memritv.org...]

/Explain THIS!

Boaz went past horribullus

re: #89 Gramlengo

i like it. it would be cool to get a topdown map view to coinside with the time line

NYT Bemoans Closure Of Black Muslim Bakery

From Israel National News (Arutz-7)

1,000 In Terrorist's Funeral
(IsraelNN.com) About 1,000 people participated Sunday in the funeral of the terrorist who was killed in Jerusalem's Old City on Friday. The funeral was held at his home village of Kafr Manda, near Haifa. The man grabbed a gun from a security guard in Jerusalem Friday and shot him, before being shot dead himself.

Some of the people held signs that said "bring the killers to justice," and chanted nationalist and Islamist slogans.

OT:

Maliki calls emergency session in Iraq

re: #85 psaturn

Some folks on the left say to me that it is SO UNFAIR AND INHUMANE that the Arabs get searched thoroughly at the border crossing and even at the airport (they guy in front of me at the TEL AVIV Airport was a Muslim and was pulled to the side to get a thorough search while with me they asked me a few questions like what I was going to do in the country and etc and he waved me in.

Heck, I get searched virtually every day, often twice a day, just going to and coming from work (i.e., when going through the Jerusalem Central Bus Station). Oh, the humiliation!

re: #93 NJDhockeyfan

Charles, No mention of the millions bilked from fearful pols and taxpayers

re: #93 NJDhockeyfan

NYT Bemoans Closure Of Black Muslim Bakery

I had no idea the awning of the bakery had 'Taste of the Hereafter' written on it. That is just rich.

re: #83 pat

Apparently they missed Arafart's MD's interview...

#90 cbinflux
I recently read an interesting study on FGM. When Egyptian parents were asked whether their daughters of high school age were FGMed, over 80% said yes. But when the daughters were asked it was about 50%. This means that in spite of the pressure from religious authorities there is a movement away from FGM. And I might add, the Egyptian operation is the absolute worst when 'properly' done. Full intubation.

re: #82 NoSubmission

not only that but he was an autistic, blind, deaf, Fisherman/carpenter/Sheppard & a Peace Activist etc... etc...

Afterwards the screen darkens and it is unclear whether or not the guards shoot him again - as his family claims they did.

I'll bet they were in full Pali whine.

re: #89 Gramlengo

Clarification - With images
(Red circle - Guards / Blue circle - Terrorist)

Excellent job!

re: #80 Green Helmet Guy

It would be a mistake to think Israel is any the less beset by the problem of a Leftreasonous media than the USA and Europe. The self-haters are everywhere.

If you want to hear from patriotic Israeli media, Arutz Sheva is the way to go.

re: #92 miamitech

Well, unfortunately I don't know where exactly did the incident take place, I know it was in the Christian quarter in old Jerusalem, and the guards (Michael and Alex) were from one of the "Yeshivot" from the Jewish quarter, they were off duty at the time of the incident.
About the timeline - It was around noon and it was all over in a matter of minutes.
He was following them for about 10 minutes before making his move.

P.S
The gun holster the security guards had was faulty, usually those type of holsters have a "security cable" that is attached to the holster and the gun to prevent these things from happening, apparently, that holster did not have that.

[Link: www.newsday.com...]

War Crimes suspect in Darfur revisits the scene

re: #6 prospero

Before the screen darkens the worthy young man is still pointing his weapon. If he was shot again, I'd say it was his own damn fault.

Also, why give a terrorist a second chance?

re: #83 pat

Pat -

Problem is when do we get to see theCONCLUSION OF THE DELUSION?

re: #85 psaturn

Would you believe that Israel is now so PC that they changed the best airport security screening on the planet? Suicidal?

re: #100 pat

It makes me sick, and infuriated knowing that it takes place in the US and EU.

Newsbusters has a few good entries today...

Apparently Hardball host Chris Matthews has a bit of a problem keeping his lust in check on the air. On Friday evening's Hardball, Matthews was interviewing CNBC's Street Signs anchor, Erin Burnett, about the latest Wall Street news when suddenly he switched gears as you can see in this video. The official transcript isn't up yet on the MSNBC website but here is a transcription of the conversation as best I could understand it:

MATTHEWS: Could you get a little closer to the camera?

BURNETT: What is it? Is it (garbled) in strangely?

MATTHEWS: Come in closer...no...come in...come in further...come in closer...really close.

(Burnett leans towards camera.)

BURNETT: What are you, what are you doing?

MATTHEWS: Haw! Haw! Just kidding! You look great! Anyway, thank... Erin it's great to have...look at that look... You're great...

BURNETT: I don't even know. I'm going to have to go look at the tape here. I'm in a strange location.

MATTHEWS (laughing): No, you're beautiful! I'm just kidding! I'm just kidding! You're a knockout! Anyways thank you, Erin Burnett. It's alright getting bad news from you even. Okay. Thanks for coming on Hardball.

Chris, I know it was Friday night and Erin Burnett is indeed a knockout. However, perhaps you could be a little more subtle about your attraction for Erin. After all, among the few dozen of your Hardball viewers, Mrs. Matthews could have been watching your leering performance.

LOL

and this one...

Black Entertainment Television has been playing what is being called a Public Service Announcement created by a rapper named Bomani "D'mite" Armah. It is in cartoon form and made in the Rapper music video style. However, it contains some very offensive language even as the underlying message is one encouraging children to read by telling them to read a "mother***ing book, N***er." It's a mixed message, indeed. Do we need to encourage kids to read by cursing at them every other word in a song aired to them on a black centric television station? Is this the proper type of work that should be seen on BET?

The thing begins in a school auditorium with bored kids looking on. The cartoon rapper starts by playing Beethoven's Fifth on a piano (the whole song is set to the Fifth Symphony). "D'Mite" starts off by telling the kids, "See, I used to do songs with hooks and concepts and sh*t, right? Well, f*ck that, I'm trying to go blacker!" It then goes into the first verse which is made up entirely of "Read a book, read a book, read a mah fuc*in book," repeated over and over again.

It's over-the-top and offensive to be sure. But is it the "right message" despite that and to be congratulated? BET sure thinks it should.

I won't embed this video here because it is filled with offensive language, but here is the YouTube link so that you may decide if you wish to watch it or not:

Youtube Video

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Follow-up report from Israel National News -- and just as might be expected.
===

Terrorist's Dad: Video is Lying

(IsraelNN.com) Mahmoud Hatib of Kafr Manda, whose son Mahmoud was killed Friday after he shot a security man in Jerusalem, claimed Sunday that the police videotapes of the incident are fakes.

"There is no problem today to edit a film any way you want to," he said after his son's funeral.

Hatib says he does not believe the official investigation. "I demand justice," he said.

re: #112 Clio

So I guess Mohammad Al-Dura is fair game now? Like that's ever going to happen.

You know-if he was an Israeli Arab-I bet that Israel will be paying benefits to the widow through Bituach Leumi (national insurance). There are other wives of terrorists who receive financial assistance already.

They released the tape because initially all the Arab witnesses claimed that the guards shot him after they asked for his ID and he started to run away.

What's amazing about the video is that the security guard in the green shirt whose gun was stolen attacks the armed terrorist barehanded. He got shot in the shoulder at point blank range.

re: #104 ZionistYoungster

I know, but Ynet and NRG are used by the International media arutz 7 is not (Unfortunately).

i read em all. ynet and nrg print insane stuff and don't get me started on Haaretz

btw, according to channel 1 the terrorist was a member of the Northern branch of the Israeli-Arab "Islamic Movement" (basically a watered-down Hamas)

re: #112 Clio

Follow-up report from Israel National News -- and just as might be expected.
===

Terrorist's Dad: Video is Lying

(IsraelNN.com) Mahmoud Hatib of Kafr Manda, whose son Mahmoud was killed Friday after he shot a security man in Jerusalem, claimed Sunday that the police videotapes of the incident are fakes.

"There is no problem today to edit a film any way you want to," he said after his son's funeral.

Hatib says he does not believe the official investigation. "I demand justice," he said.

Justice was done, Hatib.

re: #113 WriterMom

Very exhaustive review of the Muhammad al-Dura tapes and the SURROUNDING SCENE have virtually proved that the story was a fake.

It used to be argued that al-Dura could only have been shot from the Arab side.

Now it seems more than likely that HE WAS NEVER SHOT AT ALL.

The whole thing was a fake.

re: #112 Clio

"I demand justice," he said.

Sounds like there was justice. Does Dad want some more? I don't really think he does.

Incredible bravery by the security guard who followed this bastard:
He jumped the Arab while he had the gun pointed at him. Amazing!
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FGM and the Islamic ruling:

[Link: sheikyermami.com...]

I agree, justice must be done, tear down the parent's house too, also his brothers and sisters. Then justice will be done.

Nice save, but those "guards" really shouldn't be walking around in that part of the world so someone can blind-side them like that. They didn't notice at first the weapon was taken? Why weren't they all shot before they could wake up?

Somethin' ain't right.

re: #104 ZionistYoungster

I was just stating that it was Israeli for those who are not familiar.

P.S.: your telling me, I'm not naive... the problem is here in Israel, with nut-jobs like Yuli Tamir (who is introducing the 4 mothers into the school curriculum with Al Nakba), All-merde, Barak, Yariv Oppenheim(Peace now), Tali Fahima, Uri Avneri, and the list goes on and on. We cant hold the moon-bats of the world responsible because we have so many in Israel.

I love Arutz Sheva BTW

What a shame there is a video.

We could have had another martyr like Muhammad Al-Dura and Rachel Corrie.

Oh, wait, good news, we still may. The father says the tape is a fake.

You and I breath. Arabs lie.

re: #89 Gramlengo

Your work has not gone unnoticed.

re: #124 opinionated

You and I breath. Arabs lie.

I nominate this for a rotating title!

Charles, you might find this interesting:

Arafat's doctor confirms that he died from AIDS.

re: #122 markie

Why weren't they all shot before they could wake up?

Because he was trying to steal the gun -- not kill the guards. He started shooting only after they reacted.

re: #115 Green Helmet Guy
re: #123 Green Helmet Guy

Steven Plaut calls Haaretz "Israel's Palestinian daily in Hebrew", so entrenched is their treason. They even, like many US newspapers of late, feature columns by Hamas spokesliars.

I was just saying moonbattery was a contagious disease and global pandemic. You can find it everywhere, obstructing the defensive war against Islam over all the world. The Hindu names I see from time to time on CounterPunch (Vijay Prashad etc.), for example, are no doubt India's very own local variety of media moonbats, calling for talks with Pakistan, concessions in Kashmir and equal rights for the Muslims in India. The madness is everywhere.

It should probably be pointed out that the Terrorist was an ISRAELI Arab.

Not a Phakestinian.

re: #99 NY Nana

#130 Wrath

See the video.

re: #118 Clio

Won't matter. Nobody who wants to believe it will ever believe otherwise.

re: #130 WrathofG-d

The Israeli Arabs regard themselves as an integral part of the Phakestinian "nation". Today, in fact ever since October 2000, they say so openly.

It's no use trying to decouple the 1949 Armistice territories from the 1967 War territories. The Arabs have never made that difference, and now the rest of the world (specifically the Western Left) doesn't either, demanding that the sixty-year-old, not forty-year-old, "wrong" be "righted".

re: #131 NY Nana

Note to me: I meant #127 Wrath!

I had better have an eye exam!

Shirley, he was going to use the gun for "peaceful" purposes.

re: #133 ZionistYoungster

Yes. That is why I made my statement. I know all about the Israeli Arabs, what they do, whom they have loyalty, and how they think. Again, this is why I pointed out that this guy was an Israeli and not a Phakestinian.

I've seen the interviews. Read the articles. Etc. The Israeli Arabs are an internal threat who believe they are Phakestinians before Israelis.

re: #134 NY Nana

I saw the video (if you mean the one of the Arab Israeli attacking the Security guards). What does it have to do with Arafat dying of AIDS though?

re: #137 WrathofG-d

It has this video..the interview with Arafart's MD...

re: #138 NY Nana

Oh. Very interesting. Think this is something the LGF would cover?

Either way, its interesting. I'd like to know what the "Arab Street" would think/do if/when they find out that the glorious leader of the Phakestinian cause was a disease-ridden homosexual.

(For all the anti-LGF people reading this I would like to point out one thing. People suffering from AIDS (excluding when they are Arafat or other genocidal maniacs, or similar beings) is a horrible thing. I've had friends die from AIDS and it was beyond upsetting to watch. Additionally, I again normally wouldn't care if someone was a homosexual. (I have very close homosexual friends)

However, that doesn't mean that the over-macho/honor driven/anti-Homosexual Arab Street/environment would be as forgiving as me. They, plainly stated, hate and murder homosexuals. Therefore, it would be interesting to see what the Arab propaganda sources do to cover or explain their "great leader's" being homosexual and dying from such a disease. THIS is the newsworthy point of this comment. If it had been some guy from "The Village" or "WEHO" dying in California or New York?...it would be a tragedy and overall not so big a deal to discuss.)

Courtesy of Ace...The Greatest Splodeydope Video Ever

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re: #139 WrathofG-d

Charles did...there are comments and a video..there may be another thread.

Re the attack...from Arutz Sheva...

Doubt cast by Arab bystanders and family members of Friday's Old City terrorist regarding his guilt and security guards' response have been cast aside as footage of the attack has been released.

Police have released closed circuit video footage of the terrorist incident in Jerusalem's Old City on Friday which clearly shows that the terrorist grabbed a security man's gun, fired on a security guard from close range, and was not the victim of an execution-style gunshot at close range.

The terrorist's family – Israeli Arabs from the village of Manda near Haifa – have been saying that their son was just a "quiet boy" and that he was the victim of a premeditated attack by the security guards.

Israeli media have been cooperating with the family, with news site Ynet going so far as to drop the word "terrorist" in their descriptions of the man. Channel 2 TV quoted the claims of an execution-style shooting in their initial reports of the incident, immediately turning the focus of the report against the security guard whose heroism saved the day.

However, the closed circuit footage clearly shows the family members lied regarding the terrorist's guilt.

Another aspect of the incident that was the focus of attention on Voice of Israel state-run radio immediately following the attack on interviews with a local Arab shopkeeper who claimed that the terrorist had been on the ground and injured when the guards shot him dead, carrying out a "confirmed kill."

The footage that would show the final shots was not released, the video ends before then. Fellow security guards told Arutz-7 that they know the police are reviewing the footage, but that the killing of the terrorist was done in the only way possible to ensure that the armed man, even once injured, would not continue to shoot bystanders with the gun that he swiped from the guard.

So he had to schlep from near Haifa, in the north, to Jerusalem, for a decent loaf of bread?

Puhleease.

re: #139 WrathofG-d

Re Arafart and AIDS? Blame Israel, blame Israel!

Arch-terrorist Yasser Arafat’s doctor has confirmed the long-circulating rumors that the PLO chairman had AIDS – though the doctor insists Israel poisoned Arafat as well, causing his death.

Rumors have long circulated in both Israel and the Palestinian Authority that Arafat’s symptoms prior to his death were caused by AIDS. Within the PA, Israel has always been accused of poisoning the PLO chairman.

Now, Arafat’s private doctor has joined other PLO officials in acknowledging that Arafat had the HIV virus, but is holding on to the claim that Israel was responsible for his ultimate demise, in a French hospital.

Dr. Ashraf al-Kurdi told the Jordanian Amman News Agency that Arafat did, in fact, have AIDS – but insisted that the HIV virus was injected into the chairman’s bloodstream, and not the result of illicit sexual activity.

Al-Jazeera interrupted an interview with al-Kurdi due to his mention of Arafat’s having had AIDS.

French doctors who treated Arafat insisted after his death that he had died of a massive stroke after suffering intestinal inflammation, jaundice and disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC), a blood condition.

Another Arafat aide, Bassam Abu Sharif, accused former French President Jacques Chirac of withholding knowledge that Israel killed Arafat with a substance that destroys red blood cells.

Even before Arafat died, US author and intelligence expert John Loftus said on the John Batchelor Show on WABC radio on October 26 that it was widely known in CIA circles that Arafat was dying from AIDS. Loftus further said that was the reason the US kept preventing Israel from killing Arafat – to allow him to be discredited by the ailment.

A 1987 book by Lt.-Gen. Ion Pacepa, the deputy chief of Romania's intelligence service under Communist dictator Nicola Ceausescu, may explain how Arafat contracted the sexually transmitted disease.

In his memoirs "Red Horizons," Pacepa relates a 1978 conversation with the general assigned to teach Arafat and the PLO techniques to deceive the West into granting the organization recognition. The general told him about Arafat’s nightly relations with his young male bodyguards and multiple partners. “Beginning with his teacher when he was a teen-ager and ending with his current bodyguards. After reading the report, I felt a compulsion to take a shower whenever I had been kissed by Arafat, or even just shaken his hand," Pacepa wrote.

Senior US intelligence official James J. Welsh, the National Security Agency's former PA analyst, told WorldNetDaily, "One of the things we looked for when we were intercepting Fatah communications were messages about Ashbal [Lion cub] members who would be called to Beirut from bases outside of Beirut. The Ashbal were often orphaned or abandoned boys who were brought into the organization, ostensibly to train for later entry into Fedayeen fighter units. Arafat always had several of these 13-15 year old boys in his entourage. We figured out that he would often recall several of these boys to Beirut just before he would leave for a trip outside Lebanon. It proved to be a good indicator of Arafat's travel plans. While Arafat did have a regular security detail, many of those thought to be security personnel - the teenage boys - were actually there for other purposes."

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the fire.

They pobably sent the waaahmbulance to pick the guy up.

Did they shoot him again? I sure hope so. Many times.

This lump of pigshit on legs grabbed a gun and shot innocent people because they were Jewish.

WHO THE F*** CARES IF SOMEONE PUT ON EBETWEEN HIS EYES AFTER THEY WOUNDED HIM? I'd rather it be eliminated than released by that halfwit Olmert in order to stroke abbas the Holocaust denier's ego and boost his stocks.

We shouldn't even need to justify what happens to pigswill like this arab calling itself palestinian. The pigshit is fighting a war. in war you kill the enemy and then ask questions. Like what was the pigshit on legs doing in a place where he could do harm to civilised Jews? Why wasn't it locked down in gaza with all the other animals who live there because no zoo will accept them?

I was traveling with a Jewish group under the auspices of the Jewish agency and it took us a very long time to clear security leaving Israel. So I know that that they don't just check Muslims. Of course, the left wants to believe that but it is, as usual, bs. I get angry when I see that so many Israeli places of everyday business need to have security at the door because of Muslim terrorism and as this incident shows- Israeli Arabs- not just Palis. The last time I was in Israel we were told not to go outside the Jewish quarter but this time walked through the Arab quarter. The issues this time were not terrorism but safety-it seems there is quite a bit of robbery/pickpocketing outside the Jewish quarter. Now with this shooting, I guess terrorism is on the front burner in those areas again.