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Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 10:22:26 am PDT

Google doesn’t change their logo in any way to mark Memorial Day, or September 11.

But today, they’ve got a special logo in celebration of Roald Dahl’s birthday.

Roald Dahl, author of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, was also a virulent Jew-hater. In 1983, he defended himself against accusations of antisemitism with this statement:

There’s a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity . . . I mean there is always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.

(Hat tip: Piltdown Man.)

UPDATE at 9/13/07 10:35:20 am:

The logo appears to have been changed back to the default Google logo now.

UPDATE at 9/13/07 2:07:56 pm:

The Roald Dahl birthday logo is still up at the UK branch of Google.

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1 Miss Trixie  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:23:31am

Vile. Vile and disgusting.

Feh.

2 nev.  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:23:45am

They are sending a subtle message.

3 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:25:13am

Well, knock me over with a straw.

4 rab3  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:26:36am

Mine still just shows iGoogle. It's a conspiracy I tells ya.

5 ShumBaayaMyLord  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:26:48am

Holy crap! I never knew that about Roald Dahl.

I suppose I should thank you, Charles, for enlightening me. On the other hand, this info just blew away a minor chunk of my childhood reading idyll.

Welp, I guess one more blame-item I'll heap on my parents!...

6 The Other Les  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:27:10am

The barking moonbat (total BDS antizionist) whose basement I used to live in was a fan of that jerk.

7 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:27:11am

This morning at our Rosh Hashonah service, the Rabbi asked that we remember the three IDF members currently being held captive by some of the true evildoers in this world. No doubt, Mr Dahl has no problems with THEM.

Happy New Year to the Lizards who celebrate today. And to those who do not: may you all have joy in your lives.

8 Sponge  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:28:33am

Google spends most of it's time attacking Microsoft for the way it does business, but it WANTS to be Microsoft SO BAD its funny.

9 Shug  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:28:34am

fu*k road dahl and his birthday

HAPPY BIRTHDAY to General John Joseph "Black Jack" Pershing

10 bulwrk  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:28:44am

did they pull it down? it was there earlier now it's gone

11 The Other Les  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:28:56am

re: #5 ShumBaayaMyLord

Holy crap! I never knew that about Roald Dahl.

I suppose I should thank you, Charles, for enlightening me. On the other hand, this info just blew away a minor chunk of my childhood reading idyll.

Welp, I guess one more blame-item I'll heap on my parents!...

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was read to us by our fourth grade teacher back in 1970.

12 squarepeg  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:29:00am

Hitler: a stinker, a grouch, and a rotten doody.

13 Le_Patriot  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:29:09am

Re: "they’ve got a special logo in celebration of Roald Dahl’s birthday."

Does Google actually say somewhere that they are celebrating Dahl's birthday? At first glance, I took it for a decoration.

14 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:29:40am

I'm not seeing it when I click the link.

IE thing?

15 Shug  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:29:40am

re: #13 Le_Patriot


if you clicked on it, it explained the birthday

16 zombie  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:29:59am

Remember my successful Google Memorial Day Logo Design Contest?

Maybe I should do one for 9/11.

On second thought -- too much work!

But the same point applies. Google is fully moonbat.

17 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:30:00am

I didn't know this about Dahl.

Too bad, I always liked Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

18 R.A.D. Dad  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:30:09am

I don't see any special google graphics. Perhaps a screen shot?
Just like yesterday I heard that Dogpile had a special 9-11 graphic, but I saw nothing special when I checked out Dogpile. I wonder what's wrong with my browser.

19 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:30:10am

Don't be Evil...or Stupid

I corrected Google's informal corporate motto for them.

20 The Other Les  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:30:11am

re: #10 bulwrk

did they pull it down? it was there earlier now it's gone

I never thought about screencapping it.

21 BabbaZee  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:30:37am

re: #7 _RememberTonyC

Happy New Year to you too.

Ron Dahl, Ron Paul, either way... I give em both my Zionist Jewtian ass.

Later Lizards

NEVER SUBMIT!

22 The Hamster  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:30:45am

Another of many reasons to dislike google (yahoo as well). There are many great search engines out there. Google is not one of them.

The Hamster squeeks :-=

23 Lazarus  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:30:46am

Jeez, and I loved "James and the Giant Peach" growing up.

24 maddogg  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:31:07am
There’s a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity . . . I mean there is always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.

Hitler was a stinker? Pretty mild rebuke for the murdering psychopath that started the 2nd World War, and engineered murder on an industrial production scale. That alone tells you where this pus bag is coming from.

Fuck Google and Dahl.

25 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:31:11am

If there's a special logo at google, I don't see it.

/already yanked?

26 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:31:14am

For all those complaining that Google did not put up a special commemoration for 9/11, all I can say is "Be careful what you wish for." Given that Google is overwhelmingly looney-leftist, and looney-leftists are getting more and more trooftarded, 9/11/2008 might see a Google logo showing Bush and Cheney rigging explosives in the WTC...

27 Haole  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:31:35am

They pulled it.

28 Sponge  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:31:53am

re: #10 bulwrk

did they pull it down? it was there earlier now it's gone

It was there 5 minutes ago, and you're correct. It seems to be gone now.

29 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:31:56am

re: #13 Le_Patriot

Re: "they’ve got a special logo in celebration of Roald Dahl’s birthday."

Does Google actually say somewhere that they are celebrating Dahl's birthday? At first glance, I took it for a decoration.

Park your pointer over the logo.

30 zombie  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:31:57am

My favorite two Google logos are "Persian New Year" and "Louis Braille's birthday."

Significant!

31 squarepeg  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:32:05am

Now that is interesting. I saw the Roald Dahl logo earlier (and noted it in an earlier thread as an odd inclusion considering the plain vanilla for 9/11). Now it's gone. I wonder . . . user protests?

32 zandtar  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:32:05am

Google sold out years ago, and is no more innovative then a pet rock anymore. They're more worried about being 'stars' now then anything else.
[Link: www.iht.com...]

33 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:32:08am

Did anyone grab a screenshot?

34 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:32:13am

I don't see anything but the usual Google header.

Did they take it down?

35 Pickle  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:32:25am

re: #17 Ringo the Gringo

I didn't know this about Dahl.

Too bad, I always liked Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

When I read it as a child, I found it grotesque and demented. Guess it matches the author's personality.

36 Le_Patriot  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:32:41am

re: #15 Shug

re: #13 Le_Patriot


if you clicked on it, it explained the birthday

It didn't, when I first clicked on it...now, I clicked again, and the whole thing is gone...maybe they saw LGF commentary.

37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:33:41am

re: #13 Le_Patriot

Scroll over the logo and you'll see what its for.

38 MeatRocket  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:33:59am

I loaded up google's page this morning hoping to see a graphic for Rosh Hashanah. Shana Tova!

/sarc

39 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:34:02am

Google owe their success to the Jews. Guess who helped invented the internet, and guess how many big internet equipment manufacturer were started by Jews? Ingrates.

40 squarepeg  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:34:04am
41 squarepeg  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:34:42am

re: #40 squarepeg

Should be clearer: Here is the logo.

42 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:34:45am

#21 Babba Zee ... Thanks for the kind wishes ...

43 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:34:59am

re: #40 squarepeg

[Link: www.google.com...]

Thanks for the screen grab.

I always wondered what sort of drugs he was doing when he wrote James and the Giant Peach.

44 zombie  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:35:10am

The part about this that I don't understand is: I don't see any change in Google's logo today.

What am I missing?

45 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:35:14am

Speaking of anti-Semitic tools, old LGF favorite Jan Egeland is back, and now he's suggesting we talk to Al Qaeda.

Seriously.

46 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:35:19am

re: #10 bulwrk

Maybe someone in Corporate was doing a little lurking?

Maybe Charles should put Google on the hit counter like he did Roto-Reuters (for easier flushing). Maybe Charles (and some of us Lizards) have no idea how much influence we actually have...

47 Shug  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:35:24am

re: #36 Le_Patriot


I did it earlier today ( right clicked on it ) when people first posted the story in the first thread and I saw the little icon that said roald dahl's birthday. then when I clicked on the logo it opened up a new window.

the ONLY time I ever visit google is when stuff like this happens. I don't like to give my business to douchebags like the google environmentalists and their personal 767

48 Charles  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:35:28am

They changed it back to the default, apparently.

49 Iron Fist[deleted]  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:35:49am
50 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:35:55am

The oompahs always struck me as weird.

51 pegcity  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:36:27am

re: #8 Sponge

Google spends most of it's time attacking Microsoft for the way it does business, but it WANTS to be Microsoft SO BAD its funny.

yeah but microsoft donates 1000 xbox's to the troops and builds them gaming centers

52 yah  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:36:28am

OT
Leftists at 9/11 memorial


Re: Miami shooter "may" be an Arab per FOX

53 Shug  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:36:34am

that logo lasted about as long as Augustus Gloop

54 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:36:35am

It's not there now.
Odd..

55 rab3  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:36:44am

pick on them for no reason.

Yes the reason is they are jews. What a putz.

56 Endangered in MASS  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:36:54am

re: #16 zombie

Google is worse . Your garden variety moonbat doesn't willingly cooperate with the CHICOM's nefarious dissident purges.

57 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:36:59am

re: #50 MandyManners

The oompahs always struck me as weird.


They freaked me out when I was a kid. Now the word Pedophile comes to mind.

58 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:37:32am

I did not know that about Roald Dahl.

Jew-hate is the sign of the truly ignorant everywhere. A person's opinion of Jewry is a pretty good indicator of their intelligence, IMO. It's the difference between somebody who just believes whatever BS is floating around, and somebody who investigates and determines the reality.

I once read an article by a secular Arab scholar (his name escapes me) who said that his personal yardstick for whether or not a Middle Easterner could be fruitfully engaged in political dialogue was their opinion of Jews. If they started out with "De Joos, they control de media in your country", well, forget it... I've since applied this man's technique to people I know and it works out pretty well. I do have to cut my dad some slack though, because he was raised out in the country during the Depression/WW2 timeframe and he's still got some "old school" opinions of Jews. No animosity, but he does pull out the old "they control the ___" canard once in a while.

59 Endangered in MASS  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:37:43am

re: #39 Milk Toast Intolerant


Al Gore's jewish? Who knew?

60 squarepeg  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:37:58am

re: #44 zombie

zombie, see my #41. It's out in the sphere, but no longer on their page.

Intriguing. I did see it earlier, and posted about it here.

61 FreeIowa  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:39:13am

I saw it earlier, it's gone now however. Just plain old Google now.

62 tfc3rid  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:39:30am

This is from the Miami Herald...

Police were looking for a suspect named Kevin Wehner, 30, a black male, O'Brien said. There was no other description immediately available.

63 Endangered in MASS  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:39:42am

re: #50 MandyManners


Oompahphobe.

64 Catttt  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:39:48am

In this case, I don't blame the late Mr. Dahl - he was certainly (and I think he admitted it before he passed away) anti-Semitic. He was on the record for sure as anti-Israel. He also was a great writer (edgy, but great).

No. I blame Google for NOT celebrating national holidays. I do not buy their "we are world-wide" excuse at all. IMHO, that is just an excuse.

65 Sponge  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:39:56am

re: #51 pegcity

re: #8 Sponge


Google spends most of it's time attacking Microsoft for the way it does business, but it WANTS to be Microsoft SO BAD its funny.

yeah but microsoft donates 1000 xbox's to the troops and builds them gaming centers


That's awesome. Now, if they could only develop an operating system that didn't suck...

66 jemima  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:40:29am

There's a trait in leftist, commie loving writers that makes me loathe them.
Happy New Year, you piece of debris.

67 Silhouette  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:40:31am

This shunning of good and praising/honoring the bad is everywhere.

I used to belong to the History Book Club. They're asking me to "come back" now, but I might be able to get past that they carry Al Gore's Assault on Reason and Inconveinent Truth (These are history books?) if they didn't pander to Islamists.

Thye present Tariq Ramadan's book as a good introduction for westerns wanting to understand Islam. And they describe him only as

a leading secular Muslim philosopher and historian of religion in Europe

Oh, they mention that he was denied entry into the US twice, but golly gee, they don't even mention why, just how unfair it all was.

Daniel Pipes has much on why Tariq isn't such a nice guy.

He has praised the brutal Islamist policies of the Sudanese politician Hassan Al-Turabi. Mr. Turabi in turn called Mr. Ramadan the "future of Islam."
...
Along with nearly all Islamists, Mr. Ramadan has denied that there is "any certain proof" that Bin Laden was behind 9/11.

He publicly refers to the Islamist atrocities of 9/11, Bali, and Madrid as "interventions," minimizing them to the point of near-endorsement.

68 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:41:30am

VIDEOS
Patriots vs. Moonbats
Ground Zero, NYC
9/11/07
&
Troofer Nutjobs Ground Zero

69 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:42:53am

re: #59 Endangered in MASS

re: #39 Milk Toast Intolerant


Al Gore's jewish? Who knew?

The Goracle doesn't know the first thing about coding the Internet but don't tell him that.

70 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:42:58am
There’s a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity . . . I mean there is always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.


Obviously the ramblings of a failed human being.

71 ShumBaayaMyLord  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:42:59am

#39 Milk Toast Intolerant

The Jewish connection is closer to the heart of Google's founding than you may have been aware.

Page & Brin rented/borrowed the garage of my (undergrad) classmate Susan Wojicki to do their initial work. Susan, who went on to be a senior product manager at Google, is Jewish although I have no idea what her views are on Judaism or Zionism.

I don't know if Sergey Brin is himself Jewish or not, but the surname Brin is quite often a Jewish one.

The real issue, though, is what the hell is wrong with CEO Eric Schmidt -- don't think he's Jewish but that's hardly the core of the problem anyway.

72 Haole  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:43:25am

I think they lurk. That was to damn fast.

73 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:43:49am

re: #57 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #50 MandyManners


The oompahs always struck me as weird.

They freaked me out when I was a kid. Now the word Pedophile comes to mind.

They remind me of Morlocks.

74 storagemanager  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:44:21am
Report: Turkey provided Israel with intelligence on Syria
Kuwaiti newspaper claims coordination to allow IAF to use Turkish airspace during 'foray' was carried out without Erdogan's knowledge

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

75 pegcity  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:44:46am

re: #71 ShumBaayaMyLord

#39 Milk Toast Intolerant

The Jewish connection is closer to the heart of Google's founding than you may have been aware.

Page & Brin rented/borrowed the garage of my (undergrad) classmate Susan Wojicki to do their initial work. Susan, who went on to be a senior product manager at Google, is Jewish although I have no idea what her views are on Judaism or Zionism.

I don't know if Sergey Brin is himself Jewish or not, but the surname Brin is quite often a Jewish one.

The real issue, though, is what the hell is wrong with CEO Eric Schmidt -- don't think he's Jewish but that's hardly the core of the problem anyway.

Im sure like all leftard jews they hate judiasm and zionism

76 rab3  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:44:51am

A New Strain of Anti-Semitism is Spreading

Who recently said: "These Jews started 19 Crusades. The 19th was World War (1). Why? Only to build Israel."

Some holdover Nazi?

Hardly. It was former Prime Minister Necmettin Erbakan of Turkey, a NATO ally. He went on to claim that the Jews -- whom he refers to as "bacteria" -- controlled China, India and Japan, and ran the United States.

Who alleged: "The Arabs who were involved in 9/11 cooperated with the Zionists, actually. It was a cooperation. They gave them the perfect excuse to denounce all Arabs."

77 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:44:57am

re: #63 Endangered in MASS

re: #50 MandyManners


Oompahphobe.

Guilty. They could be just harmless chocolate workers but they make me think of canibals.

78 BabbaZee  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:45:05am

re: #67 Silhouette

Just had to add that Daniel Pipes is THE REASON Tariq did not get his Visa.

He made sure it didn't happen.

Can't stay...see ya later...

79 storagemanager  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:45:24am
Turkish intelligence assisted IDF in attack on Syria – report


Kuwaiti newspaper says Turkish intelligence provided Israel with information on targets Air Force allegedly attacked last week without Turkish government's authorization

Roee Nahmias Published: 09.13.07, 16:11 / Israel News


Turkish intelligence provided Israel with information on the Syrian targets allegedly attacked by the Air Force last week without the Turkish government's authorization, Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jareeda reported Thursday.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

80 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:45:24am

re: #65 Sponge

Actually a reply to #8, but just so it gets followed - Microsoft is doing nothing more than improving their business. They're counting on our soldiers wanting to carry on with the xbox where they left off.

Economics, Dr. Watson. Cheap advertising.

81 oh2be21  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:45:55am

re: #52 yahNaw, they just had a pic up and the guy is black, with a beard, and some kind of headband. Pray for the four policemen he shot. Two were plainclothes.

82 WeaselZipper  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:46:49am
83 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:47:09am

re: #76 rab3

So, if they can't get the blame to stick to the President, then they're going to blame the Jews?

Idiots.

84 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:47:45am
But today, they’ve got a special logo in celebration of Roald Dahl’s birthday.

Oh boy. The author of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory's birthday is truly an epoch making moment in human history.

85 storagemanager  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:47:55am
Illicit trafficking, theft and loss of nuclear and other radioactive materials remain "a persistent problem," according to the United Nations agency entrusted with pre-empting nuclear and radiological terrorism and preventing proliferation, the United Nations Information Center said in a press release on Thursday.

More than 250 incidents involving unauthorized possession and related criminal activities, theft or loss of nuclear or other radioactive materials, and other activities such as unauthorized disposal of radioactive materials were reported to the UN Energy Agency Illicit Trafficking Database (ITDB) last year, of which 150 occurred in 2006 and the rest mainly in 2005.

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

86 Jimash  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:47:57am

re: #62 tfc3rid

This is from the Miami Herald...

Police were looking for a suspect named Kevin Wehner, 30, a black male, O'Brien said. There was no other description immediately available.

Pic on TV shows a black man with a beard waring some kind of turban.
SJS

87 rab3  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:48:33am

re: #83 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #76 rab3

So, if they can't get the blame to stick to the President, then they're going to blame the Jews?

Idiots.

Blame the Jews is always the fall back position.

88 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:48:35am

Gotta work now. BBL

89 Endangered in MASS  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:48:38am

re: #69 Milk Toast Intolerant

There are liars and there are delusional liars who believe their own lies.

90 Shug  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:48:44am

re: #86 Jimash


sinbad?

91 TimeQuake  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:48:54am

re: #74 storagemanager

re: #79 storagemanager

That made my day.

92 Sponge  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:48:56am

re: #80 Cap'n DOC

re: #65 Sponge

Actually a reply to #8, but just so it gets followed - Microsoft is doing nothing more than improving their business. They're counting on our soldiers wanting to carry on with the xbox where they left off.

Economics, Dr. Watson. Cheap advertising.

They've got to do something to recoup all the losses from the warranty issues on both xbox's.

93 Catttt  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:49:56am

re: #76 rab3

A New Strain of Anti-Semitism is Spreading


Who recently said: "These Jews started 19 Crusades. The 19th was World War (1). Why? Only to build Israel."

Some holdover Nazi?

Hardly. It was former Prime Minister Necmettin Erbakan of Turkey, a NATO ally. He went on to claim that the Jews -- whom he refers to as "bacteria" -- controlled China, India and Japan, and ran the United States.

Who alleged: "The Arabs who were involved in 9/11 cooperated with the Zionists, actually. It was a cooperation. They gave them the perfect excuse to denounce all Arabs."

Stories like that one always make me think of Ayaan Hirsi Ali. She said that as a young girl, she was taught that everything was the fault of the Jews. Consequently, when she got her period, she blamed the Jews.

94 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:50:41am

re: #92 Sponge

Losses? Microsoft? LOL. Who knew?

95 zombie  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:50:50am

re: #68 NoSubmission

VIDEOS
Patriots vs. Moonbats
Ground Zero, NYC
9/11/07
&
Troofer Nutjobs Ground Zero

So much material! You've got videos on top of videos.

it's good stuff, but the problem is, the sheer numerosity of them makes it overwhelming!

If I were in your shoes, the next time around, I'd try to edit together a "best of" reel from all the mini-clips, and feature that one up front.

I know, I know, editing video is hellish (at least for me it is). But one great video is much more effective than the combined impact 27 different good ones!

96 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:51:04am

I wonder if CAIR will condemn this.
Pakistan: Buddha images survive blasts

Mingora, 12 Sept. (AKI/DAWN) - In a grim reminder of the destruction of world famous Bamiyan Buddha statues in Afghanistan by the Taliban six years ago, militants tried on Tuesday to blow up a seventh-century Buddhist rock carving in Pakistan's Swat valley, northwest of the capital, Islamabad.

The the image of the sitting Buddha is carved into a 40-metre high rock in the mountains 20 kilometres north of Mingora, a town in the Swat valley.

The Gandhara civilisation site was not damaged by the blasts which were caused by two explosive devices that were detonated in the early hours of Tuesday.

97 Shug  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:52:00am

re: #96 Just_A_Grunt

I wonder if CAIR will condemn this.

no

98 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:52:09am

Rush just mentioned the Breck Girl has bought time on PMSNBC to "rebut" Bush tonight.

I imagine he got a discount.

Says he should buy time on Fox if he wants to reach an audience.

99 Sponge  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:52:09am

re: #94 Cap'n DOC

I know it...shocking, huh.

100 storagemanager  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:52:29am

One police officer just died..fox tv

101 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:52:32am

re: #86 Jimash

re: #62 tfc3rid

This is from the Miami Herald...

Police were looking for a suspect named Kevin Wehner, 30, a black male, O'Brien said. There was no other description immediately available.

Pic on TV shows a black man with a beard waring some kind of turban.
SJS

One officer is now reported dead.

102 Endangered in MASS  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:52:33am

re: #77 MandyManners

Who are we to pass judgement on what a moonbat and a dozen consenting dwarfs of color do in their "chocolate factory".

103 rab3  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:52:45am

re: #93 Cattt

re: #76 rab3

A New Strain of Anti-Semitism is Spreading


Who recently said: "These Jews started 19 Crusades. The 19th was World War (1). Why? Only to build Israel."Some holdover Nazi?

Hardly. It was former Prime Minister Necmettin Erbakan of Turkey, a NATO ally. He went on to claim that the Jews -- whom he refers to as "bacteria" -- controlled China, India and Japan, and ran the United States.

Who alleged: "The Arabs who were involved in 9/11 cooperated with the Zionists, actually. It was a cooperation. They gave them the perfect excuse to denounce all Arabs."

Stories like that one always make me think of Ayaan Hirsi Ali. She said that as a young girl, she was taught that everything was the fault of the Jews. Consequently, when she got her period, she blamed the Jews.

I blame my hemorrhoids on Harry Ried.

104 Sponge  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:53:14am

re: #98 JammieWearingFool

I heard the guy subing for Levin yesterday talking about the $100,000 discount moveon.org got from the times for that nice little add about our fine General.

105 ron paul  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:53:26am

Who's behind the oodles of doodles Google doodles for you? [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

106 Land Shark  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:53:30am

Dahl was an anti-semite? I never liked Charlie and The Chocolate Factory anyway, now I'm glad. My wife, who is Jewish, liked it, I guess now I have to give her the bad news. Bummer.

By the way, as a proud new LGF hatchling I want to extend my greetings to the Lizard Nation. Finally, I was able to catch the registration open and be a part of it!

Land Shark

107 red satellite  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:53:37am

"...even a stinker like Hitler.."

Stinker? The English language has over 100,000 words to choose from, and he chose stinker?

He must be a regular Hemmingway with that impressive display of lingual gymnastics.

108 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:53:49am

re: #89 Endangered in MASS

All those walkoff HR's are getting on my nerves. :D

Should be a fun weekend. You going to any of the games?

109 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:54:44am

re: #103 rab3

LOL.

I blame my hemorrhoids on Harry Ried.

I suggest Prep-H for you both. Orally for him.

110 Sponge  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:54:59am

re: #106 Land Shark

I LOVED those sketches you did on SNL back in the day...

Who is it?

Pizza guy...

Who?

Pizza guy...

I'm not a shark...


Pure gold.

111 Endangered in MASS  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:55:07am

re: #106 Land Shark


Welcome.

112 rab3  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:55:22am

OT

Edwards Campaign Buys MSNBC Air Time To Respond To President's Speech

A message from the John Edwards campaign reads "John Edwards will speak directly to the American people in a nationwide address on MSNBC. Our campaign has bought airtime on MSNBC immediately following the President's address at 9pm, and John Edwards will challenge the President's remarks with a strong call to the nation to end the war now."

The campaign even writes, "President Bush will be on every network for free tonight. Our campaign will have to pay for the time on MSNBC."

Who watches MSNBC again?

113 jaybird  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:55:23am
Google spends most of it's time attacking Microsoft for the way it does business, but it WANTS to be Microsoft SO BAD its funny.

And they are well on their way to getting there.

114 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:55:37am

re: #104 Sponge

re: #98 JammieWearingFool

I heard the guy subing for Levin yesterday talking about the $100,000 discount moveon.org got from the times for that nice little add about our fine General.

Hot Air has an update on their thread about this. Moveamericaforward, a pro military group, purchased an ad to run the same day and while they won't talk exact numbers they say they didn't get such a sweetheart deal or very good placement.
How many knew a pro military ad was run on the same day? In that regard moveon succeeded.

115 pegcity  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:56:06am

there was a line in the BFG where the dad tells one of the chidren that as when the uncivilized people of the world "and jews" get money society should come to respect them a little bit more, but not too much.

I remember being a child reading that and thinking the guy was racist asshole.

116 eclectic infidel  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:56:11am

Pick on them? That's a defense? I did not know this about Roald Dahl. Now I do. And shame on Google.

117 Sponge  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:56:16am

re: #113 jaybird

Sad, but true.

118 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:56:31am

re: #67 Silhouette


I belong to the History Book Club & have noticed the same trend. However, The Military Book Club (owned by the same company), sells many conservative political books in their catalogues. I guess they know who their target audience is.

119 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:56:34am

re: #106 Land Shark

Welcome. Have you gotten all the advice yet?

120 Silhouette  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:56:50am

From the wiki bio

According to biographer Jeremy Treglown, Dahl had originally written "when we all started hating Jews" - but editor Gillian Greenwood of the Literary Review changed Dahl's terms from "Jews" and "Jewish" to "Israel" and "Israeli".[citation needed]

How nice of the editor to cover up his racism (somewhat) for him. Apologists and bigot enablers then and now.

121 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:57:04am
122 Jimash  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:57:20am

Somebody should ask what they do for Shel Silverstein's birthday.
At least as important as Roald Dahl.
[Link: www.shelsilverstein.com...]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

123 rab3  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:57:23am

re: #109 Cap'n DOC

re: #103 rab3

LOL.

I blame my hemorrhoids on Harry Ried.

I suggest Prep-H for you both. Orally for him.

Orally

Harry need to get Hillary's wiener out of his mouth. She has one you know. She just loans it out to Bill when he has an "Intern" meeting.

124 CoolShades  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:57:36am

I wonder how Roald Dahl felt when [Link: www.nndb.com...]

Gene Wilder

received the lead in Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (also a movie based on Mr. Dalh's book). Gene's Jewish.

Note: I'm new and praying the quote comes out good.

125 HolmWrecker  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:57:38am

Crap, no more Willy Wonka for this household. Bummer, I kinda liked that movie. Oh well. Wouldn't be the first movie/show/person I've disregarded from my life. One more to the list.

126 tfc3rid  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:58:20am

re: #101 Just_A_Grunt

Ugh...

127 bulwrk  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:58:37am

re: #96 Just_A_Grunt


If you try to blowup a statue of Buddha because it's an affront to allah and nothing happens does that mean Buddha just kicked allahs ass.?

128 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:58:42am

re: #86 Jimash

re: #62 tfc3rid


This is from the Miami Herald...

Police were looking for a suspect named Kevin Wehner, 30, a black male, O'Brien said. There was no other description immediately available.


Pic on TV shows a black man with a beard waring some kind of turban.
SJS

I saw that, too. White topped with black?

129 cygnus  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:59:02am

re: #30 zombie

My favorite two Google logos are "Persian New Year" and "Louis Braille's birthday."

Significant!

W.A. Mozart's birthday - good one!

Hitler a 'stinker'? That's like calling Armageddon 'unpleasant'.

130 storagemanager  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:59:14am
A suicide attacker detonated a bomb at an army canteen in northwestern Pakistan on Thursday, killing at least 10 soldiers and wounding others, officials said.

The attack happened at the canteen in Ghazi Tarbela, an army facility about 100 kilometers (60 miles) south of the capital, Islamabad, according to two security officials, who sought anonymity because of the sensitive nature of their job.

If this keeps up...the army will turn on the President...I thinks the point. [Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

131 GOP_Crusader  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:59:26am

May I suggest that Lizards en masse use Dogpile as their search engine of choice? Their mascot, Arfie, always remembers holidays and significant events, including 9-11.

132 Ginn  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:59:36am
There’s a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity . . . I mean there is always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.

Oh yeah.. that Hitler, he was such a stinker Yeah, that's the ticket! Those Jews, they were so aggravating that Hitler, well...
/ Giant Sarc

What the hell? Thanks Piltdown Man for bringing the Google
F@#$up to Charles attention. Thanks Charles for putting up the thread.

Google.. we're watchin you

133 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:59:39am

re: #102 Endangered in MASS

re: #77 MandyManners

Who are we to pass judgement on what a moonbat and a dozen consenting dwarfs of color do in their "chocolate factory".

Now, that's kinky.

134 peck  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:59:43am

Very OT, but I just had to share this video found at Dhimmi Watch. Not quite sure what to make of it, but this is darn funny. We infidels have no idea how much fun they really have at those Friday night prayer meetings.
[Link: www.glumbert.com...]

135 Jimash  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:59:50am

Hey, maybe it's just a complicated doo-rag.
But that beard looks suspicious to me.
/

136 Silhouette  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 10:59:58am

Uh oh. Someone needs to update wiki

On the 13th of September 2007, Google honoured his birthday by a reworking of their famous logo on their main search page, replacing some of the letters with items and characters from books. Avid reader Matilda (from the novel Matilda) could be seen sitting on the "G" surrounded by a pile of books. The second "o" was replaced by a peach floating on water with a tiny figure aboard it, from James and the Giant Peach. Finally, the "l" was replaced with a partially-unwraped chocolate bar with a Golden Ticket inside (from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory).

And then mysteriously, it was taken down around mid-afternoon EST, after evil neo-con blogs started a smear campaign. I'm 90% sure it was Zionist mischief.

137 Ginn  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:00:07am

re: #112 rab3

OT

Edwards Campaign Buys MSNBC Air Time To Respond To President's Speech

A message from the John Edwards campaign reads "John Edwards will speak directly to the American people in a nationwide address on MSNBC. Our campaign has bought airtime on MSNBC immediately following the President's address at 9pm, and John Edwards will challenge the President's remarks with a strong call to the nation to end the war now."

The campaign even writes, "President Bush will be on every network for free tonight. Our campaign will have to pay for the time on MSNBC."

Who watches MSNBC again?

What's MSNBC?

138 Endangered in MASS  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:00:30am

re: #108 JammieWearingFool


I sold the tickets to Sundays game. Too late. I'm waiting for the playoffs. I should have the tickets shortly.

At this point I don't know how far the Red Sox can go. Fortunately all the teams are flawed. The Sox have a really good bullpen.That helps. The Sox offense is to easily silenced and their manager doesn't have the ability to recognise or the desire to play small ball in close games

139 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:00:52am
The logo appears to have been changed back to the default Google logo now.

Sneaky bastards.

140 wordwarp  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:01:02am

They had side-by-side bombs last week -- did anyone see that? I was going to blog on it, but then just got too busy.

141 bosforus  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:01:11am

He's still my favorite children's author. I don't recall any antisemitism in his books.

142 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:01:28am

re: #95 zombie

re: #68 NoSubmission

VIDEOS
Patriots vs. Moonbats
Ground Zero, NYC
9/11/07
&
Troofer Nutjobs Ground Zero

So much material! You've got videos on top of videos.

it's good stuff, but the problem is, the sheer numerosity of them makes it overwhelming!

If I were in your shoes, the next time around, I'd try to edit together a "best of" reel from all the mini-clips, and feature that one up front.

I know, I know, editing video is hellish (at least for me it is). But one great video is much more effective than the combined impact 27 different good ones!


Hi Zombie,
I didn't take these. A friend did. I'm just passing them along. I will eventually get it together with my own videos soon.

143 Hard Right  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:01:33am
Google doesn’t change their logo in any way to mark Memorial Day, or September 11.

I expect nothing less from China appeasing traitors

144 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:01:34am

Hmmm...The Dahl page at Wiki is being modified by someone right now.

145 cygnus  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:01:37am

re: #50 MandyManners

The oompahs always struck me as weird.

Did they have an "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign over the workers' entrance to the factory? Kinda creepy.

146 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:02:18am

re: #112 rab3

OT

Edwards Campaign Buys MSNBC Air Time To Respond To President's Speech


A message from the John Edwards campaign reads "John Edwards will speak directly to the American people in a nationwide address on MSNBC. Our campaign has bought airtime on MSNBC immediately following the President's address at 9pm, and John Edwards will challenge the President's remarks with a strong call to the nation to end the war now."

The campaign even writes, "President Bush will be on every network for free tonight. Our campaign will have to pay for the time on MSNBC."


Who watches MSNBC again?

What'd he pay, like fifty bucks? I mean, nobody watches it.

/and fuck you olbermann

147 The Other Les  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:02:25am

re: #127 bulwrk

re: #96 Just_A_Grunt


If you try to blowup a statue of Buddha because it's an affront to allah and nothing happens does that mean Buddha just kicked allahs ass.?

A false god doesn't have an ass to kick.

148 Chuck Pelto  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:02:37am

TO:: Charles Johnson, et al.
RE: Yeah

"There's always a trait...even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason." -- Roald Dahl

He's RIGHT, you know.

But it's not for a flaw in THEIR character. Rather, he's a classic example of 'projection'.

The flaw is in himself and the likes of Hitler. And, from a Christian perspective, it has to do with being aligned with some character known as Satan. Something to do with being a 'sore loser' at Calvary some 2000 years ago.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Jesus astonishes and overpowers sensual people. They cannot unite him to history, or reconcile him with themselves. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson]

149 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:03:11am

re: #7 _RememberTonyC

He's dead, Fred.

And someone at Google must read LGF to have it gone like that. Take a look at their list from a search for Roald Dahl Jew hater...

150 Chuck Pelto  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:03:18am

P.S. Isn't chocolate 'sensuous'?

151 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:03:27am

re: #141 bosforus

He's still my favorite children's author. I don't recall any antisemitism in his books.

You mean the title James and the Giant Jew wasn't a clue?

/

152 Desert Storm Vet I  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:03:52am

OT

Moonbats galore on 9/15/07:

[Link: www.cnsnews.com...]

Organized by everyone's favorate marxist group: ANSWER, with such dignitaries like Cindy Sheehan, etc.

:-(

153 bulwrk  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:03:55am

re: #147 The Other Les


True, good point

154 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:04:29am

re: #112 rab3

A message from the John Edwards campaign reads "John Edwards will speak directly to the American people in a nationwide address on MSNBC. ... President Bush will be on every network for free tonight. Our campaign will have to pay for the time on MSNBC."
That's because he's the President and you aren't - and never will be.
155 peck  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:04:41am

re: #150 Chuck Pelto

I thought cucumbers were supposed to be.

156 oh2be21  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:04:59am

The next time I use google, anyone within hitting distance has my permission to knock me up side the head. The only way to get even for their subtle slam against the Jewish New Year is to deprive them of hits to their website.

Sadly, one of the officers has died in Dade Cty..they are revising the AK-47 to a "high powered rifle" per Banderas on Fox. Dang she is irritating.

157 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:05:06am

The first Wonka movie, with Gene Wilder (uh-oh, a Jooo!) was okay, but that new one with Johnny "Screw America" Depp? It creeps me out.

158 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:05:26am

re: #141 bosforus

He's still my favorite children's author. I don't recall any antisemitism in his books.

I read - and enjoyed - 4 or 5 books by the Norweigen author Knut Hamsun before I found out that he had supported the Nazis during WWII.

I never found any antisemitism in his books either, although Hamsum later claimed that he only supported Hitler because he hated the British.

159 bosforus  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:06:56am

re: #151 Ward Cleaver

ha ha, how could i be so dense? Charlie and the gas factory, charlie and the great glass holocaust not to mention BFG, Big Friendly Germans

160 Stringart  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:07:31am

Hitler was a stinker? Not the word most of us would use, but hey, none of us are world-famous writers.

161 Endangered in MASS  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:07:37am

re: #133 MandyManners


oompah loompah doompity doo...

162 The Other Les  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:07:44am

re: #153 bulwrk

re: #147 The Other Les


True, good point

Which may help explain the Islamic aversion to idolatry.

163 oh2be21  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:07:53am

re: #106 Land Shark

Welcome, and since I'm only a few weeks old, all us newbies can learn to walk together.

164 bosforus  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:09:32am

re: #158 Ringo the Gringo

I'd probably feel differently if I hadn't read so many of Dahl's book as a child. Reading up on his personal life at this very moment reveals he was apparently quite unapologetic about his antisemitism. Who'd have guessed?

165 Endangered in MASS  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:10:18am

re: #157 Ward Cleaver

Depp comes off as a cross between Dana Carvey doing GW Bush and Michael Jackson.

166 Hooray for Captain Spaulding  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:11:23am

Google?

What's Google?

167 TS  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:11:28am

I'm surprised they didn't have a Ramadan logo *rolls eyes at the little punks*

168 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:11:48am

I hope the guy in Florida gets one between the eyes.

Probably a sick comment, but I really don't feel like knowing this fucker will get our tax dollars to feed, house, provide his medical care, and prepare his defense if he is caught alive.

Riddle his body with bullets.

169 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:12:23am

re: #159 bosforus

re: #151 Ward Cleaver

ha ha, how could i be so dense? Charlie and the gas factory, charlie and the great glass holocaust not to mention BFG, Big Friendly Germans

ROTFLMAO!

170 zombie  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:12:26am

re: #142 NoSubmission

I didn't take these. A friend did. I'm just passing them along. I will eventually get it together with my own videos soon.

Ah! Well OK, then. Pass my recommendation along to your friend!

I look forward to your videos!

People always say that living in the SF Bay Area gives me a gold mine of opportunities for "citizen journalism," but to be frank I'm jealous of you folks in New York!

171 cygnus  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:12:56am

re: #52 yah

OT
Leftists at 9/11 memorial

[Link: www.youtube.com...]


Re: Miami shooter "may" be an Arab per FOX

What a bunch of leftard idiots. So nice to do all this B.S. on 9/11. If they hate America and our flag so much, why don't they just move to Iran or wherever?

I just finished watching some 'live' videos of 9/11 on YouTube and it really brought back the horror we all felt on that day. I WILL NEVER FORGET!

172 Silhouette  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:13:11am

re: #167 TS

Probably were afraid of the "whimsy" they profess they use not being respectful enough of their overlords, and getting a fatwa on their butts.

173 USASupport  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:13:16am

7:13 PM GMT, I have the Roald Dahl Google Log appearing.

174 Don  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:13:43am

When saw Google's typical indifference on 9/11, I went to Dogpile and saw their typical reverence:

Dogpile's 9/11 search page.

Courtesy of DanzFamily.com.

175 wordwarp  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:13:55am

Aw, my link to How to Make the Google Logo in Photoshop has been "suspended". Though I do have a nice sample modification at that page...

Here's another that hasn't been "suspended": How to Make Google's Logo in Photoshop.

176 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:14:54am

The 2 self-hating Jews who own Google...

Google founders park private 'superjet' with Nasa - but the locals aren't impressed

Albore will be sooo jealous!

177 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:16:15am

re: #170 zombie

re: #142 NoSubmission
I didn't take these. A friend did. I'm just passing them along. I will eventually get it together with my own videos soon.

Ah! Well OK, then. Pass my recommendation along to your friend!
I look forward to your videos!
People always say that living in the SF Bay Area gives me a gold mine of opportunities for "citizen journalism," but to be frank I'm jealous of you folks in New York!


I think I'm going to experiment with Motionbox, since youtube sucks.

I think you should move here, zombie. We could make quite a team! All those in favor, say 'Aye!'

178 TS  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:18:53am

re: #172 Silhouette

True that ;) Eh, makes me want to puke. I envision them as little creepy, whipped men, bowing to their nutjob wife/gf's leftist BS trying to please her. Like, it all started, (their political philosophy), when they went to some anti-war protest to pick up chicks, lol, and ended up like they are now. Sad really.
(I'm a woman btw just to clarify)

179 snowman  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:21:28am

It boggles my small gourd to think folks like Dahl can be such idiots. Look at the contributions to the world made by Jews--in science, medicine, religion, philosophy, art, music, architecture, entertainment and on and on. As opposed to the many contributions made by the ROP, for example.

Jews continued prosperity alone is a miracle, and as a Christian, I thank God for them.

180 Granitebill  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:22:17am

I mentioned this on the 9/11 (that there was no reference). I spent the next 30 minutes trying to find an email address to send my dissatisfaction. I could not find one in the contacts.
so... i will no longer use that search engine. any recommendations? what do right-minded people use?

obtw... my extreme-lefty nephew... (who spends much of his time saving the world in other countries) is on his third interview with said company.
sounds like a good fit. (though I'm sure he won't see the hypocrisy once he starts getting his capitalist checks!)

granite-

181 nev.  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:23:00am

Re: Charles

"The logo appears to have been changed back to the default Google logo now."

Not on the UK page.

182 Silhouette  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:23:11am

re: #168 formercorpsman

Time was when being a cop killer was a death sentence because the other cops wouldn't take him alive. Actually, more correctly, that was the general expectation (I have no knowledge if reality reflected that - but it doesn't matter because the criminals expected it as well).

And that expectation may make men who wouldn't hesitate to shoot civilians think twice before shooting a cop (because they believe they're as good as dead if they do). This makes catching them easier, makes our police

More bad guys caught, more fear/respect of the police = safer world for all of us.

Disclaimer: I may be biased since I have so many police in my family, both sides for me, and in-laws too.

183 Athos  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:24:11am

I don't necessarily buy all of those who say Microsoft is evil or an evil company. However, I do associate Google with that sentiment.

From a personal viewpoint, only Sony, with their non-disclosed use of rootkits in their software, is more reprehensible and insidious with their software and tools.

What's next, a special logo for L. Ron Hubbard? or Ron Paul?

184 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:26:52am

re: #176 NY Nana

The 2 self-hating Jews who own Google...

Google founders park private 'superjet' with Nasa - but the locals aren't impressed

Albore will be sooo jealous!

Hey Brit editor...it's "NASA". An acronym. Us all caps.

OldLineTexan

185 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:29:01am

"Use all caps."

PIMF

OldLineTexan

186 Merovign  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:29:56am

re: #146 Ward Cleaver


A message from the John Edwards campaign reads "John Edwards will speak directly to the American people in a nationwide address on MSNBC. Our campaign has bought airtime on MSNBC immediately following the President's address at 9pm, and John Edwards will challenge the President's remarks with a strong call to the nation to end the war now."The campaign even writes, "President Bush will be on every network for free tonight. Our campaign will have to pay for the time on MSNBC."

Given the amount of free coverage the Dems in general and Edwards in particular has received, and the fact that Bush isn't even running, this statement is grotesquely ironic.

187 bosforus  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:30:54am

re: #181 nev.

nice find, i did a screen shot just in case...
[Link: s217.photobucket.com...]

188 Silhouette  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:31:02am

John Edwards will speak directly to the American people that subset of Americas who watch MSNBC in a nationwide address on MSNBC

189 scannit  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:31:31am

For those who missed the logo, I found it on google's web site.

[Link: www.google.com...]

And from Wikipedia, which was already updated with news about the logo:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Under the Death and Legacy heading, half way down

On the 13th of September 2007, Google honoured his birthday by a reworking of their famous logo on their main search page, replacing some of the letters with items and characters from books. Avid reader Matilda (from the novel Matilda) could be seen sitting on the "G" surrounded by a pile of books. The second "o" was replaced by a peach floating on water with a tiny figure aboard it, from James and the Giant Peach. Finally, the "l" was replaced with a partially-unwraped chocolate bar with a Golden Ticket inside (from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory).

190 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:37:35am

re: #181 nev.

So I see.

191 nev.  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:37:51am

re: #33 Sharmuta

Did anyone grab a screenshot?

Sure, here you go.

192 bosforus  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:38:01am

re: #189 scannit

how much you wanna bet google did the wiki edit?

193 cygnus  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:38:16am

re: #109 Cap'n DOC

re: #103 rab3

LOL.

I blame my hemorrhoids on Harry Ried.

I suggest Prep-H for you both. Orally for him.

Not much of a difference in his case.

194 Nadnerb  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:38:24am

I NEVER anymore use Google. Haven't for at least a year now.

195 kcladderman  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:39:20am

re: #106 Land Shark
Welcome

196 nev.  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:39:27am

re: #41 squarepeg

re: #40 squarepeg

Should be clearer: Here is the logo.

It looks like someone is -ve rating all your comments.

197 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:42:50am

re: #181 nev.

Google Canada does not have it, either.

198 mattm  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:43:31am

Anyone get a screen shot of the original logo. By the time i saw this it had been changed.

199 cygnus  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:44:28am

re: #134 peck

Very OT, but I just had to share this video found at Dhimmi Watch. Not quite sure what to make of it, but this is darn funny. We infidels have no idea how much fun they really have at those Friday night prayer meetings.
[Link: www.glumbert.com...]

Caption: Pentecostal Muslims

200 nev.  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:44:42am

re: #71 ShumBaayaMyLord

#39 Milk Toast Intolerant

The Jewish connection is closer to the heart of Google's founding than you may have been aware.

Page & Brin rented/borrowed the garage of my (undergrad) classmate Susan Wojicki to do their initial work. Susan, who went on to be a senior product manager at Google, is Jewish although I have no idea what her views are on Judaism or Zionism.

I don't know if Sergey Brin is himself Jewish or not, but the surname Brin is quite often a Jewish one.

The real issue, though, is what the hell is wrong with CEO Eric Schmidt -- don't think he's Jewish but that's hardly the core of the problem anyway.

So is the Israeli connection.

201 Curiosity  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:48:49am

Google.com shows the normal google logo, google.co.uk is still showing the Roald Dahl one.

202 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:48:53am

re: #38 MeatRocket

I loaded up google's page this morning hoping to see a graphic for Rosh Hashanah. Shana Tova!

/sarc

We should all live so long!

Shana tova!

203 cygnus  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:49:37am

re: #179 snowman

It boggles my small gourd to think folks like Dahl can be such idiots. Look at the contributions to the world made by Jews--in science, medicine, religion, philosophy, art, music, architecture, entertainment and on and on. As opposed to the many contributions made by the ROP, for example.

Jews continued prosperity alone is a miracle, and as a Christian, I thank God for them.

Amen! G-d bless the Jews and Israel!
(I'm a Christian too.)

204 MeatRocket  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:53:13am

re: #107 red satellite

"...even a stinker like Hitler.."

Stinker? The English language has over 100,000 words to choose from, and he chose stinker?

He must be a regular Hemmingway with that impressive display of lingual gymnastics.

I hereby nominate "an impressive display of lingual gymnastics" to be added to the rotating title of LGF!

205 Desert Storm Vet I  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:53:14am

#171:

These leftards really make me want to puke. If SFSU (and the People's Republic of Bekeley) really think the US Military is the enemy, perhaps they should pass a referendum to secede from the US, have all the good folks that believe in our country leave the Bay area, and let these marxists and utopianists have the Bay area to hold as their sanctuary, to include the La Raza folks as well.

Less tax dollars spent.

206 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:53:38am

Should I use Yahoo?

207 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:54:33am
208 freedomforsome  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:54:38am

Charles,
Here's a link to the logo.

[Link: www.google.com...]

209 TalkinKamel  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:54:48am

#151 ward cleaver

Honesty compels me to admit---Dahl was always one of my least favorite childrens book writers.

I always thought "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" should have been called, "Willie Wonka, the demented serial killer."

210 oh2be21  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 11:58:20am

re: #209 TalkinKamel
Thank you for summing up and connecting the dots on the serial killer angle. Good one.

211 TalkinKamel  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 12:10:14pm

#210 oh2be21

Hey, that's what the kamel's here for! To tell you these things.

212 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 12:18:35pm

I am thinking it would look good up on LGFs header.

With one of the O's as an Islamic Crescent and the other as the red star and sickle.

Forkum?
You out there good buddy?

/hint hint hint

213 nev.  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 12:19:13pm

re: #93 Cattt

re: #76 rab3

A New Strain of Anti-Semitism is Spreading


Who recently said: "These Jews started 19 Crusades. The 19th was World War (1). Why? Only to build Israel."Some holdover Nazi?

Hardly. It was former Prime Minister Necmettin Erbakan of Turkey, a NATO ally. He went on to claim that the Jews -- whom he refers to as "bacteria" -- controlled China, India and Japan, and ran the United States.

Who alleged: "The Arabs who were involved in 9/11 cooperated with the Zionists, actually. It was a cooperation. They gave them the perfect excuse to denounce all Arabs."

Stories like that one always make me think of Ayaan Hirsi Ali. She said that as a young girl, she was taught that everything was the fault of the Jews. Consequently, when she got her period, she blamed the Jews.

And this hate filled bile is an election campaign speech designed to win mass public support.

214 wanumba  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 12:23:59pm

DON'T GET ME STARTED ON RAUL DAHL THAT DESPICABLE CREEP!
His sneaky little vile books are on ALL the SCHOOL READING LISTS. Kids in public and private schools CANNOT ESCAPE being EXPOSED to that man's perverted mind.

Danny, Champion of the World - Danny lives with his father in a gypsy trailer. Mom's dead, they just have each other. Danny's Dad has a secret - he steals from his rich neigjhbor's property. Danny comes up with a more elaborate plan to steal better. PURE CLASS ENVY - rich guy's abum so it's okay to steal from him. Thus, the name for the title of the book. CHampion means CHAMPION THIEF.

Danny and the Giant Peach - Dead parents, evil relatives - Danny ends up with insects. "Great" story - they are reading it to the 1st graders as we speak. Fill the little youngun' minds with death, distrust of relatives ... and so forth.

DId I get those right? Two Danny's?

THE BGF - THe Big Friendly Giant : THIS is the book that clued us into Raul Dalh. Sounds good? Big FRIEndly... right?
Dalh's gimmick was that he figured parents will read the first half of a book - if they like what they see, they'll quit there. He does his dirty mind-twisting tricks on kid's minds in the second half.
THE BFG gave our kid such nightmares - read aloud every day by the helpful and idiotic teacher to 2nd graders. A boy is confronted by a giant - who needs his help. SO far so good. The giant reassures him he's a good guy, but he needs the kid's help to defeat the FLESH-EATING GIANTS WHO PROWL AROUND AT NIGHT TO EAT CHILDREN AFTER THEY FALL ASLEEP.
Try putting YOUR youngster to bed after THAT story. GOOD LUCK - for the next three years.

Raul Dalh's own daughter wrote that he was a creep. WHY are HIS books DE RIGOR READING in SCHOOLS?

215 Joel  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 12:25:00pm

Roald Dahl, vicious anti Semite though he was, actually was a talented writer. He was married to the actress Patricia Neal. I recall his anti Semitism back in teh early 1980s when he made several anti Israel swipes.

216 wanumba  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 12:26:10pm

Ugh.
JAMES and the Giant Peach
Don't make it any better to read in any way.

217 oh2be21  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 12:26:45pm

Now Fox is reporting the killer in Dade Cty may have shaved his beard and may have been wearing a bullet proof vest when he tangled with the officers. Some discussion he may have purchased as many as 3 AK-47's, several handguns, back in May or thereabouts. How can you do that legally and how do the police know it so fast?

A lot of mays and maybe's in their reporting...

218 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 12:33:13pm

re: #215 Joel

My kids loved his stuff, and I am embarrased to say that I didn't have a clue re his Jew hate...until today.

I have sent them the info to be sure that my grandkids, one of whom is an advanced reader at age 7, will not read any of his stuff.

Shana tova!

219 pablito  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 12:36:51pm

re: #19 experiencedtraveller

"Don't be evil ... like the Joooz" ?

220 Joel  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 12:37:07pm

re: #70 NoSubmission

There’s a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity . . . I mean there is always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.


Obviously the ramblings of a failed human being.

Unfortunately many British writers fall into Dahl's world view - A.N. Wilson, Harold Pinter, Max Hastings, John le Carre - even J.K. Rowling is an admitted leftist.

221 MattMacD  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 12:41:06pm

Roald Dahl sure made a lot of sense. Hey, I have some bad qualities too - I should hate myself. Oh, and my family. And my wife. I should just hate all people, after all, humans have plenty bad qualities.

Moral relativism is stupidity.

222 noraono  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 12:51:12pm

I have to say that I've known he was an anti-semite, but i didn't find that out until I had bought every children's book he has written.

He was a GREAT children's writer, and his books were the staple of my childhood- it started with Witches in third grade (my mom got a call for the book report i did...Christian school apparently didn't approve)...

I think criticizing his children's books as "despicable" and "vile" is awfully silly... Have you ever read the Brothers' Grimm fairy tales? Ever read Lord of the Rings?

Again, unfortunate that he's an anti-semite- but a lot of great authors were terrible human beings and their literature SHOULD still be enjoyed.

Let's not get too crazy about these things folks- I'd much rather my future children be read James and the Giant Peach than Sally has two Mommies. At least one involves great writing and imagination.

P.S. This does not take away from the fact that Google is ridiculous in it's logo choices.

223 Querent  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 12:53:13pm

re: other search engines
Yahoo has Goodsearch, which will donate a penny per search to any charity you select from their list when you set it up.

since Project Linus (the one i contribute blankets to) got on their list, i've set it up as my default (was normally using Yahoo / Alta Vista before).

Have to say i've never used Google, even before i hatched as a Lizard...

224 B_Dix  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 12:56:38pm

? Roald Dahl ? When I saw Google's logo earlier, it looked like "back-to-school": kids' desks, an apple for the teacher... although now, you're right, it's just plain old Google, no fancy add-ins.

225 milesinfront  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 1:00:14pm

My apologies if your attention has already been drawn to this, but you may be interested to know how the oh-so-impartial BBC teaches children about 9-11. This article was complained about, removed on 9-11, and the day after returned to the site:

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Check out [Link: www.biased-bbc.blogspot.com...] for more.

226 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 1:01:24pm

re: #220 Joel

Pinter is Jewish...

227 B_Dix  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 1:05:26pm

Aha! I found it!

google: "google logo roald dahl"

and you get
[Link: blogoscoped.com...]

with the logo I saw earlier.

228 crown_of_feathers  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 1:10:36pm

I knew about Dahl's despicable attitudes years ago.

I have a copy of a book - "What Did They Think of the Jews?" by Allan Gould - that quotes dozens of well-known figures through the ages. Dahl is included, and there was no doubt about his hatred of Jews.

It is interesting to browse through that book, and sample the vile attitudes of the Jew-haters ("Saint" John Chrysostom, Voltaire, Richard Wagner, Henry Ford, Ezra Pound, ad nauseum). It is also uplifting to see the magnanimous and great-hearted opinions of the "non-Jew-haters" like George Washington.

229 shpeeler  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 1:23:03pm

Well at least at LGF we can say it: Shana Tova!

230 Stringart  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 1:31:20pm

re: #197 NY Nana

re: #181 nev.

Google Canada does not have it, either.

Google Canada did have it up earlier. It disappeared after Charles put up this thread.

The Lizard Master strikes again!

231 Socratease  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 1:38:46pm
There’s a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity . . .


Yeah, it's called 'success'.

232 larrysheldon  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 1:43:30pm

"Happy New Year to the Lizards who celebrate today. And to those who do not: may you all have joy in your lives."

At my age, I'm glad to be able to say "Happy Morning", so I'll be pleased to join anybody's "Happy New Year".

I am guessing that nobody at Google knew. "Lest we forget" and "Never again" didn't last long.

233 Digger Dan  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 1:49:29pm
There’s a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity

My dear wife of many years, God bless her ornery & stubborn self, is Jewish and definitely provokes animosity on a regular basis because of her aggressive Jewish attitude. But does that make me a Jew-hater? No, it just makes me a noisy old man. Someday my complaints will make sense to her.

234 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 1:55:15pm

re: #230 Stringart

Thanks for the heads up. I am glad that they took it down, and you are right, I think, re Charles' posting this thread causing them to take it off the USA and Canadian Google sites.

Charles out to have a Google count in the sidebar for daily visits.

235 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 1:59:31pm

Let me tell you something about google:
almost everyone (if not everyone) who works there is a flaming left-winger. And we all know the flaming left-winger characteristics.

Jew-hatred is near the top.

236 laxmatt1984  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 2:05:07pm

I grew up reading Roald Dahl - The Witches, The BFG, Matilda, Boy, and Going Solo all helped create a life long love of reading.

I've known since I was 12 Dahl was an anti-Semite, (he also made up stories for his autobiographies, Boy and Going Solo) yet that does not mean he is not worth reading. Indeed, The BFG is one of the great children's stories of all time. All children should at least be exposed to Dahl's writings - along with the information that this man held bigoted views.

I began reading Dahl almost as soon as I could read, and I turned out fine. Don't underestimate children.

By the way, if you ever get your hands on a first edition of Charlie and the Chocolate factory, you'll learn that the Ompa-Loompas were originally black and came from Africa.

237 lurking faith  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 2:09:01pm

OT but related:

A little while ago, I ran a search on Dogpile for:
US Constitution

Most of the top results were extremely relevant.

Number 7, however, was:

7. Meditation & Peace
Discover the purpose of life Beautiful Islam - Read Qur'an
Sponsored by: www. MuslimBridges. org/ [Found on Ads by Google]

[spaces added so as not to provide a live link. I don't want to increase their traffic that easily.]

I was surprised and angry, until I realized it was an ad on Google designed to come up on Google every time anyone searches for the US Constitution. Then I was just angry.

Very, very angry.

238 baldylox  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 2:28:45pm

Jeez ... I've always counted My Uncle Oswald among my favorite books. Guess I'll have to change my mind. :-(

239 wanumba  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 2:31:19pm

re: #222 noraono

I have to say that I've known he was an anti-semite, but i didn't find that out until I had bought every children's book he has written.
He was a GREAT children's writer, and his books were the staple of my childhood- it started with Witches in third grade (my mom got a call for the book report i did...Christian school apparently didn't approve)...
I think criticizing his children's books as "despicable" and "vile" is awfully silly... Have you ever read the Brothers' Grimm fairy tales? Ever read Lord of the Rings?


I maintain that Dalh's books are despicable. They are also pushed heavily by the Left as "what to read." Here's why:
Grimm's Fairy Tales are surprisingly straightforward: little kids are warned about taking candy from strangers, that witches are to be avoided, that selfish people will spoil the hopes of others (Cinderella). They are quite asute stories about human perfidities. The tales are
approve of good living and disapprove of rottenness. No nightmares there.
Lord of the Rings is classic literature that addresses the nature of evil and human nature. It's in sharp contrast to say, Harry Potter in this critical arena: evil cannot be controlled by humans. It simply consumes them. Power will corrupt. Harry Potter stories maintain that some "good people" can be trusted with power to be used against "bad people." Lord of the Rings demonstrated plainly that "good intentions" become corrupted - it's a delusion that flawed people can handle great power.
SO, back to Dalh - he teaches via the nice boy Danny and his poor but loving fathere that they are "good" and therefore justifies that they can steal from the grumpy rich guy, cause he obviously has too much and is an annoying person.
Pure class envy and class politics.
James and the G Peach - Creepy loss of the parents - a horrifying concept for young chidlren - and these stories are being read to young children. Thrown on the mercy of wicked relatives, sowing distrust and uncertainty in young minds, ugly becomes good. No thanks.
The piece de resistance: The BFG. Flesh-eating giants that roam around at dusk looking for young children to eat in their beds?
Read THAT to a small child? WHat kind of miserable man would even cook up such a story to be read to little kids? Maybe a guy who didn't think that Hitler was so bad after all?

Again, unfortunate that he's an anti-semite- but a lot of great authors were terrible human beings and their literature SHOULD still be enjoyed.


After becoming familiar with Dalh's books, not the LEAST bit surprised he harbored nasty little hate against Jews. He had a mean streak in him and it shows in his writing.

Let's not get too crazy about these things folks- I'd much rather my future children be read James and the Giant Peach than Sally has two Mommies. At least one involves great writing and imagination

.
Here's a suggestion, don't read either. There are a million other books out there that build character, not screw up little kid's minds. Dalh's imagination was dark and sneaky. He knew what he was doing - setting up innocent like scenarios, then twisting them around when a child least expected it.

P.S. This does not take away from the fact that Google is ridiculous in it's logo choices


Agreed.

241 kmg  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 3:24:42pm

I never knew that about Roald Dahl. Damn. Well I guess the kids and I can still love his books and despise him at the same time!

242 noraono  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 3:28:20pm

re: #222 wanumba

I think you've missed the entire point of Dahl's (not Dalh) writing. He was very sarcastic, and always the stories strayed away from the stereotypical "happy ending". He even rewrote some of the famous fairy tales in Revolting Rhymes for that very reason. Class envy? More like the typical story stealing from the rich to give to the poor. Creepy Death of parents? They were eaten by a rhino! It's a way to keep the story fanciful, but also address what a kid might feel like when he loses his parents. If your children have never heard of someone losing their parents, and that is enough to send them into fits of anxiety, I seriously fear for their well-being.

Pushed by the left? Mean Streak? Dark and Sneaky? I feel like you are taking some entertaining (These stories have been loved by kids FOREVER) stories and turning it into some man's conspiracy to terrorize children.

I had read the majority of his books by grade 3, and never once was i scared. I was much more frightened by my teachers instruction on Revelations than any story about flesh eating giants.

I would much rather you say "I don't like his stories" than decide that he had some master plan of terrorizing children- I maintain that that is most definitely silly.

We can agree that Lord of the Rings is a great moral story of good vs. evil, and great literature. But Shelob is MUCH scarier than giants.

Everyone's probably left this thread but I just had to reply.

243 doubledip  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 3:31:39pm

So will they also be changing their logo for JK Rowling, Hans Christian Anderson, CS Lewis, JR Tolkien, and Dr. Seuss' birthdays?

244 Areopagitica  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 3:33:51pm

This is so crappy. I loved reading Dahl's books when I was a kid.

Maybe there is still a way for me to still love the books while relegating the author to the "poopy" pile.


Shana Tova Lizards

245 grumpy old codger  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 4:33:55pm

re: #239 wanumba

Great post.

246 kellino  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 4:41:20pm

Google Air

Check this out. Via Information Week

One day after Google (GOOG).org, Google's philanthropic arm, issued a Request for Proposals seeking ideas for some of the $10 million it plans to invest in sustainable transportation solutions, Google's co-founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page made headlines for the $1.3 million they're paying annually to NASA to park their personal Boeing 767-200 jet next door to Google's corporate headquarters at Moffett Field.

247 kellino  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 4:43:02pm

re: #246 kellino

Now wonder they are looking for "sustainable transportation" when they are paying $1.3 million a year to park their 767 next door.

How big is your carbon footprint? Oh wait, they probably by those carbon offset thingys so it's really not so bad...

248 laxmatt1984  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 4:45:41pm

re: #239 wanumba

Here's a little "Grimm's Fairy Tale" bedtime reading for you - The Jew Among Thorns.

Which has, among other gems, this little statement:

Soon afterwards he met a Jew with a long goat's beard, who was standing listening to the song of a bird which was sitting up at the top of a tree. Good heavens, he was exclaiming, that such a small creature should have such a fearfully loud voice. If it were but mine.

As well as:

you [the Jew] have fleeced people often enough, now the thorn-bushes shall do the same to you.

Let's also not forget Hansel and Gretel - the wicked stepmother forces the father to abandon his two children in the woods. Frankly, I suspect you have never read the original Brothers Grimm tales.

The rest of your statement - and I say this with the greatest respect - is barely literate and not at all coherent.

Let's take your example of "James and the Giant Peach":

James and the G Peach - Creepy loss of the parents - a horrifying concept for young chidlren - and these stories are being read to young children.


As someone who did lose a parent as a child, I find your insinuation that children's stories that deal with death are somehow insidious incredibly insulting - are children too weak minded, fragile, and indeed stupid to deal with the subject of death? (Including those who dealt with it first hand?)

Your principal objection to Dahl-

Dalh's imagination was dark and sneaky. He knew what he was doing - setting up innocent like scenarios, then twisting them around when a child least expected it.


is precisely what made him a brilliant children's author. Children are neither stupid nor do they live in sterile world where nothing bad ever happens. Reading an author - Dahl - that both respected a child's intelligence and confronted real world wickedness made me a better thinker, person, and frankly, provided for a better childhood.

249 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 4:46:35pm

Perhaps Roald was a creep because his parents told him the Jews had stolen the 'N' from his name, just like they 'stole the land from the Palestinians' and 'the lebensraum from the Germans' ?

250 laxmatt1984  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 4:49:49pm

re: #249 Maine's Michael

Roald Dahl was named after Roald Amundsen, a Norweigan polar explorer (Dahl's parents were Norweigan).

251 grumpy old codger  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 4:49:54pm

re: #138 Endangered in MASS

IT'S EARLY, but you can count on the Bo Flops to let you down (despite the 1 WS). Did you get a good price for them? Saw where some seats on the monster were going for big bucks.

252 Shaky Louie  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 5:34:23pm

re: #148 Chuck Pelto

...some character known as Satan. Something to do with being a 'sore loser' at Calvary some 2000 years ago.


LMAO!
FWIW, I'm starting to appreciate you more and more!
:)

253 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 5:43:02pm

re: #250 laxmatt1984

Yawn.

It was a joke.

254 idaniboy  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 5:49:47pm

I remember Google displaying a black ribbon after the London bombings in 2005... so they have shown respect and sympathy in the past for tragic events. Not displaying a black ribbon or sign of rememberence on the 11th really seems to trivialize the tragedy of that day. The 11th really should have been made into a national holiday.

255 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 5:56:05pm

You know what's ironic about it? Gene Wilder, who played Willy Wonka in the 1971 movie based on Dahl's book, is Jewish.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

That movie, by the way, was not very close to the book, as opposed to the Johnny Depp travesty, which I didn't even want to watch.

256 Zimriel  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 6:04:30pm

I would personally give Dahl some slack. And not just because I loved his books.

Dahl fought in World War II. That is something for which we should all be grateful.

He probably did make stuff up about his accomplishments (for instance, his work in Africa seems fishy to me) but no-one denies that he was part of His Majesty's forces and that he then flew in the RAF. Even if his achievements were pretty much George Herbert Walker Bush league, getting shot down and all, that is still more courage than most men can muster.

#58 - hearing about your dad, I could see that the generation which was forced into WW2 might have thought, since Hitler blamed the war on the Jews, that the Jews were somewhat to blame. Especially if the men in this conflict felt that they had failed in their section of the war, as Dahl had failed (and a lot of that is just luck; perhaps Dahl just flew into the wrong patch of air where lesser pilots didn't).

257 wanumba  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 6:23:20pm

Interesting, Rouad Dalh advocates. "Kids love them since forever."
Talk to the KIDS and the second they get the concept that they won't be penalized or put down, they'll say they HATE his books.
Mentioned ol' Raul to a young lady just this evening - her words, and I quote: "I had to read Matilda in English, then in French and then in English AGAIN and watch THE MOVIE and I HATED it every time!"

It's the TEACHERS who are pushing the books. Why else have a school day commemorating Dahl ? How'd HE make it on the Google marquee? Any chance to shove him in kids' faces - to smother the dread they have of him. These books are beloved of the LEFT for they murky right and wrong and insert very creepy situations.
Grimms is better. They treat evil as WRONG. They warn children against typical human perfidy. Very straight. They ARE tough, not the sweetened up varieties of today, for they weren't weenies back in the day, but the lessons are dished out straight, whether you like them or not. No bait and switch.
Dahl is classic The Emperor's New Clothes. Everyone says they LOVE Dalh because they think it's what progressive, but he was a CREEP.
Remember? FLESH EATING GIANTS WHO STEAL CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR BEDS AT NIGHT?
SARCASTIC? Never heard that explanation. It is NO JOKE to a 7 years old - and that's when that story is read to them. Nightmares - THANKYOU - A YEAR's WORTH OF BEING AFRAID TO GO TO BED AT NIGHT - directly attributable to THAT book. Doubt me? Read it to YOUR kids and see what happens. NO! Don't do that to a child. If I could erase it from that child's mind I would, but it's in there forever. It's reprehensible for an adult to cook up stories that frighten children.

Unbelieveable how many adults in America have NO concept of what's appropriate for young children's mental well-being. Of course, I couldn't BELIEVE that a parent would allow her child to buy and wear a thing at age 11 either, until I saw it, so it's quite true after all, that too many adults out there have failed in their responsibilities to shelter and guide their chidlren into normal, wel-adjusted adulthood, instead of EMO- self- slashing nervous nilistic creatures.

SO, I must have hit the nerve, for now I'm being called barely literate. The subject is switched away from Dalh to Grimms, which is another subject to be discussed separately, on their own merits, plus and minus. I simply attested that even with what we object to in Grimms., looking thru our eyes at another culture, they are LIGHTYEARS ahead of Dahl. I'm making a point about Dahl, the CREEP, and the collusion of the schools to push him on this generation. There is something very wrong going on.
AT least Hansel & Gretel's father, weak-willed dope that he was took them back in after the conniving step mother was gone. And they burned the witch up, which is what she deserved. Happened to work with quite a few kids dumped into the streets by just such a circumstance. Only instead of the reasonable mellow forest, the favorite dumping spot - the best place to lose someone small - was downtown Lagos, Nigeria.
Sorry to hear you lost a parent as child, but with all due respect, it's irrelevent to Roual Dahl's suitability as a children's author. The British educational system once determined that the French author Maupassant was harmful to the development of young minds - yet now his suicidally self-obsessive works are inserted into the standard literature fed to impressionable school teenagers. I say the same denouncement should be made of Dahl. The Left has made it Politically Correct to praise the man and his crock of work, there are PLENTY of chidlren out there who'd speak up if they didn't feel so intimidated to conform to faulty conventional wisdom.

258 cbinflux  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 6:43:16pm

Heh, ya gotta have priorities.

And, a leopard can't hide hide its spots.

259 cbinflux  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 6:45:27pm

re: #240 uptight

FUNNY!

260 sky21dancer  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 6:53:20pm

Nope, went to both sites and just blank ... guess we caught them out!

261 cheesel  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 8:11:25pm

I think it is ironic that they would celebrate the birthday of an anti-semite on Rosh Hashanna.

262 noraono  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 8:20:43pm

re: #248 laxmatt1984

Phew, I thought I was the only one here...

263 TalkinKamel  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 8:40:38pm

#214 Wanumba

Hear, hear, Wanumba! Yes, Dahl truly was a creep!

Mercifully, I never read the BFG (what a concept to thrust on kids---flesh-eating giants!) but I did read "Charlie and the psycho Kid-Killer"---er, "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory", wherein that lovable psycopath Willie Wonka murders kids before their parents' very eyes (teaching kids the lesson, by the way, that your parents are helpless to defend you against evil in the world), all for the terrible "crimes" of being fat, watching too much TV, being brats and other minor faults most of us don't think deserve the death penalty.

Most nauseating of all, little brown-noser Charlie Bucket is rewarded with riches for being a good little kiss-ass (teaching kids the lesson that the route to success is through sucking up to the rich and powerful. Yuck!) The truth is kids really don't get sarcasm (and when they get it, they don't really like it), and talking about the deaths of parents, evil relatives, is disturbing to them, and with Dahl, unlike the Grimms, C.S. Lewis, Tolkien, etc., there never comes a moment when the witch is triumphantly defeated, or the dragon slain. It's all creepy, icky, nasty, snarky, sadism. I'm not at all surprised schoolteachers love it, and push it on the poor kids. And, for the very same reasons they love Dahl, and Harry Potter and all the other fifth rate kids books out there, they hate OZ, the Hobbit, fairy tales where the heroine lives happily ever after, C.S. Lewis and even series stories like Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys. And of course, they consider science fiction beyond the pale for kids. Yes, the same folk who'll read kids stories about flesh eating giants have a deep, visceral dread of the "violence" in "Ozma of Oz", "Huck Finn", "Tom Sawyer", "Cinderella", etc. And don't even get them started on "Narnia", or anything remotely religious for kids; they consider that anathema.

The Grimms are certainly a subject all on their own, but I'll say this about them---they involve small people, children, defeating evil, and surviving, no matter how hostile the world around them is! If "Chocolate Factory" had been a proper, good Grimm's fairy tale, the children would have defeated the evil Mr. Wonka by pushing him into his own chocolate river (turning him into a giant chocolate bar) freed the Oompa-looompas and made off with all Wonka's money! Now that's my idea of a good kids story!

By the way, when I taught a Sunday school class last year, the kids---they were between 5 and 7---loved Old Testament stories about Joshua the warrior, prophets being swallowed by giant fish, kings and Biblica heroes and all that other stuff that they're supposedly too delicate to hear, and which might warp their minds. They adored all these stories, and begged for more.

264 TalkinKamel  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 8:46:03pm

Wanumba

By the way, I have noticed the trend of the Left in schools to push some really appalling, G-dawful, utterly sucky books at kids---all the while dropping much of the great literary canon, such as "Peter Pan", the OZ books, the classic fairy tales, and letting other good books, such as Mary Chase's "Loretta Mason Potts" and Walter R. Brooks "Freddy the Pig" stories slide into the land of out-of-print, and hence into oblivion. The people who stuff the kids heads with Dahl, Rowlings, etc. wouldn't think of giving the kids, say, "Treasure Island", "Kidnapped", "Five Children and It", "Have Space Suit, will Travel". Why is that? It's driving me crazy! Kids are being given c***py stuff to read in school! You can't even call it "Literature" because it's not!

265 TalkinKamel  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 8:48:15pm

Wanumba

And you're right about Grimm: the stupid dad does take the kids back, Jack kills the giant, the cruel stepmother is defeated, the evil dwarf outwitted. However shocking or cruel these stories might seem to us, the fact is, the innocent, youthful characters always triumph over evil, and survive, and even prosper.

266 laxmatt1984  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 8:53:29pm

re: #262 noraono

Meh, don't get too down. wanumba is the kind of babbling idiot who shows up to school board meetings with a list of books to ban.

I will never understand why people think all caps and bold strengthens an argument.

267 TalkinKamel  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 8:59:12pm

It's not people like Wanumba who show up at school boards with lists of books to ban.

These days, it's usually enlightentened liberal types, and their banning list includes "sexist" fairy tales, the "violent" stories of H.G. Wells and Jules Verne, those "warped" OZ books and "Huckleberry Finn" because it's racist! (Uses the "N" word, donchaknow.)

This is assuming the kids can still read of course, which in many public schools these days is becoming more and more a moot question. . . .

268 Timbre  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 9:07:46pm

Many may have mentioned this: Dogpile had a very respectable 9-11 logo, with the little mutt bowing his head respectfully before two white candles.

269 laxmatt1984  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 9:10:30pm

An attempt to ban Huck Finn occured in my hometown not because of N-word Jim, but because Huck was a disrespectful rascal who choose hell over heaven.

An attempt to ban Pillars of the Earth was also initiated by the religious right, as was Catcher in the Rye.

The problem with with censorship isn't one of political persuasion - it is one self appointed weirdos who decide for everyone else what is "good" and "bad" literature. Such weirdos can exist on both the left and right.

I loved Dahl as a child, and, despite your statement that

The truth is kids really don't get sarcasm (and when they get it, they don't really like it), and talking about the deaths of parents, evil relatives, is disturbing to them


it was refreshing and encouraging to read an author that respected my intelligence and knew I didn't live in a la-la land where nothing bad ever happened. No teacher ever pushed Dahl on me - I managed to get my hands on "Revolting Rhymes" in 1st grade myself (at the public library) and Dahl all throughout elementary school. He created my love of reading. It is literature, and children should at least have access to Dahl's brilliant, sly, subversive, and sneaky writing.

270 laxmatt1984  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 9:12:06pm

re: #267 TalkinKamel

This is assuming the kids can still read of course, which in many public schools these days is becoming more and more a moot question

Maybe the children think the books aren't worth reading - perhaps they would prefer something a bit edgier.

271 laxmatt1984  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 9:30:40pm

Lat thing I'll say about Dahl - the original Charlie and the Chocolate Factory had a chapter and character that were later edited out, The Secret Ordeal of Miranda Piker, a little goody two shoes who "never missed a day’s school in my life". Her snooty father, a local headmaster, encouraged Miranda's sucking up. During the tour of the factory, Wonka showed a white powder that allowed kids to fake illness and a secret room where the stuff was manufactured. Miranda and her headmaster father, appalled that Wonka would do such a thing to the schools, stormed in the room to smash up the operation. Here's what happened to them:

“Stop!” said Mr Wonka. “Don’t go in there! It’s terribly secret!” “Let’s see you stop us, you old goat!” shouted Miranda.
“We’ll smash it to smithereens!” yelled Mr Piker. And a few seconds later the two of them had disappeared through the door.

There was a moment’s silence. Then, far off in the distance, from somewhere deep underground, there came a fearful scream.

“That’s my husband!” cried Mrs Piker, going blue in the face. There was another scream.

“And that’s Miranda!” yelled Mrs Piker, beginning to hop around in circles. “What’s happening to them? What have you got down there, you dreadful beast?” “Oh, nothing much,” Mr Wonka answered. “Just a lot of cogs and wheels and chains and things like that, all going round and round and round.”

“You villain!” she screamed. “I know your tricks! You’re grinding them into powder! In two minutes my darling Miranda will come pouring out of one of those dreadful pipes, and so will my husband!” “Of course,” said Mr Wonka. “That’s part of the recipe.”

“It’s what!” “We’ve got to use one or two schoolmasters occasionally or it wouldn’t work.”

“Did you hear him?” shrieked Mrs Piker, turning to the others. “He admits it! He’s nothing but a cold-blooded murderer!” Mr Wonka smiled and patted Mrs Piker gently on the arm. “Dear lady,” he said, “I was only joking.”

“Then why did they scream?” snapped Mrs Piker. “I distinctly heard them scream!” “Those weren’t screams,” Mr Wonka said. “They were laughs.”

“My husband never laughs,” said Mrs Piker.

Mr Wonka flicked his fingers, and up came an Oompa-Loompa.

“Kindly escort Mrs Piker to the boiler room,” Mr Wonka said. “Don’t fret, dear lady,” he went on, shaking Mrs Piker warmly by the hand. “They’ll all come out in the wash. There’s nothing to worry about. Off you go. Thank you for coming. Farewell! Goodbye! A pleasure to meet you!”

Read the whole thing here.

272 EIDE_Interface  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 9:30:40pm

Blame the Jews is the default position at HuffPo and DailyKos.

273 TalkinKamel  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 9:31:19pm

#270 lazmatt1984

What do you mean by "edgier"? Do you mean books that push the latest trendoid stuff, such as the "Gossip Girl?" series? They're certainly "edgy" but they don't offer much else than naughty thrills, and a rather icky fantasy dream world.

Or do you mean books that actually confront stuff such as good/evil, darkness/light, in which case the Grimms, Kipling's "The Jungle Book", The Lord of the Rings, etc., are among the most edgy things out there. Or Charles Dickens. Or Edgar Allen Poe. Or the bible stories I mention in an earlier post---now that's edgy stuff!

If they just want to read lots of sex, violence and dirty words, they can borrow their parents' detective novels---which will probably be much better written then any of the trendy I-was-a-teenage-drunk-drugaddict-sex-addict "edgy" stuff the schools give them. Or they can start heading right for science fiction section. I think the whole concept of "edgy" fiction aimed mainly at teens is garbage, anyway. By the time you outgrow the good kids' books (of course, you never outgrow the good stuff) you should be able to find "edgy" reading if you want it---or serious reading if you want it---or just plain fun, if you want that. But hopefully, you should be literate enough that you can find something you like on your own. If a kid's just sitting on their tush refusing to read, because "it's just not edgy enough!", the problem is partly with them (lazy, unimaginative) and partly with the edcational system that hasn't made them facile readers, and which gives them stuff such a Dahl's feeble snarkisms, instead of something really meaty.

274 TalkinKamel  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 9:37:53pm

#241 laxmatt1984

Uh, Laxmatt1984, is supposed to make me like Dahl better? And don't you see that this is just the sort of creepy attitude me, wanumba and, I suspect, a lot of other people just don't like about Dahl? Willie Wonka, the jolly, grinning, serial killer. . . ha, ha, murder, sadism, it's just so bloody funny, especially when performed on silly, moralistic, lower-class people, who are, you know, so tacky, chuckle, snort, hee-heee, yuck, guffaw, hardy har-har! They're not in pain, they're laughing, haw, haw, twinkle, twinkle, yuckety-yuck.

Barf.

(Not to mention the utter, blatant, two-faced hypocrisy of punishing Miranda and her father for being a pair of goody two-shoes, while rewarding sucky Charlie Bucket for being the exact the same thing.)

You like the books, and that's fine. But no, I don't think they should be taught in schools. And I wonder about the mind set of people who'd force this stuff on kids.

275 TalkinKamel  Thu, Sep 13, 2007 9:39:36pm

And while self-appointed weirdos shouldn't decide what's good and what isn't, I would like to see schools---whose job is to teach good literature---not pushing this kind of stuff.

276 SorenK  Fri, Sep 14, 2007 8:33:28am

Dahl flew Hawker Hurricanes in the Battle of Athens and shot down two German bombers.

Unlike the vast majority of commentators on this page he actually fought evil rather than talked a deal about it.

277 wanumba  Fri, Sep 14, 2007 11:38:06am

re: #266 laxmatt1984

re: #262 noraono
Meh, don't get too down. wanumba is the kind of babbling idiot who shows up to school board meetings with a list of books to ban.
I will never understand why people think all caps and bold strengthens an argument.


WAAAH WAAAHH!
Ran out of things to defend that indefensible creep Dahl and decided to attack a mythical me instead? YOU KNOW SQUAT about me. HOW DARE YOU STATE WANUMBA IS THE KIND OF BABBLING IDIOT WHO SHOWS UP TO SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS WITH A LIST OF BOOKS TO BAN.
GOT SOME PROOF OF THAT? WHat lame, tired, worthless stereotype did YOU pull out of YOUR closet? Can't STICK to the SUBJECT. Gotta wander off and attack the commentator on a personal level - except of course you know nothing about me to be able to state ANYTHING personal. SO, I actually am NOT TALKING IT PERSONALLY, just as a debate point in MY FAVOR.

That means I WON the DEBATE! R.D. WAS a CREEP! His books are nasty pieces of works.
His OWN DAUGHTER wote after he died that HE WAS A CREEP!

No caps for TalkinKamel - just a bow and a polite tip of the hat for the great comments.

278 TalkinKamel  Fri, Sep 14, 2007 12:07:35pm

#277 wanumba

Many thanks, Wanumba.

:>)

279 AZDave  Fri, Sep 14, 2007 12:12:11pm

The Roald Dahl birthday logo is still up at the UK branch of Google.

No surprise. The Brits tend to be Jew haters. Must be something in the water.

280 wanumba  Fri, Sep 14, 2007 5:28:27pm

re: #276 SorenK

Unlike the vast majority of commentators on this page he actually fought evil rather than talked a deal about it.


And who might those commentators be? Name them. Or are you assuming something you know nothing about? Stereotyping is the word.
Kid today, "The school made me read that book about the kid who discovered that all these pretty ladies were just witches in disguise who hated kids. The boy found out and they treid to kill him. I HATED THAT BOOK! It was CREEPY!"
Out of the mouths of babes. Don't take MY word for it.

Dahl flew Hawker Hurricanes in the Battle of Athens and shot down two German bombers.


Good for him. He was stil a creep. Hilter fought in WWI. Nothing unusual about his service. We should dismiss his later lethal machinations against the civilized world because he fought well enough in 1917? Idi AMin was non-descript in the military once too, should we dismiss his brutal degradation of Uganda later cause of his earlier service?

281 wanumba  Fri, Sep 14, 2007 5:34:19pm

re: #270 laxmatt1984

Maybe the children think the books aren't worth reading - perhaps they would prefer something a bit edgier.


Maybe the kids want to read books with real heros and solid morals, and aren't getting them.

Wonder why the Dangerous Book for Boys is doing SO well? WITHOUT the schools HARD MARKETING of it, as they do for Dahl, which is a national scandal - the collusion of the public school system with the publishers to push these books on the kids.

282 webs87  Fri, Sep 14, 2007 9:38:13pm

Whatever happened to "Do No Evil?"

283 wanumba  Sat, Sep 15, 2007 8:01:34am

re: #269 laxmatt1984

it was refreshing and encouraging to read an author that respected my intelligence and knew I didn't live in a la-la land where nothing bad ever happened.


My kids school was attacked, overrun and burned down by rampaging mobs. Does that qualify as la-la- land to your vast intellect? They attended schools with riot shutters on the windows and three days of food and water emergency rations in case the streets were too dangerous to go home. They didn't need Dahl to crank up fake terror.
We too stupid for your intelligence?

No teacher ever pushed Dahl on me - I managed to get my hands on "Revolting Rhymes" in 1st grade myself (at the public library) and Dahl all throughout elementary school.

That speaks for itself, "Revolting Rhymes..." And even if you didn't needed to be force-fed it - Dahl is on ALL the required and "suggested" reading lists for all of elementary - so it's a FACT Dahl was and remains pushed on everyone.

It is literature, and children should at least have access to Dahl's brilliant, sly, subversive, and sneaky writing.


See? I was right! Even a fan of his admits what I said was the raw truth.
Now, who can claim to be genuinely shocked that kids, FORCE-FED on Dahl from 1st grade thru 6th and 7th - EVERY YEAR ANOTHER one of Dahl's "sneaky, sly and subversive works," produces kids who've learned that the teachers, the schools, the movies, the publishing companies, the GOOGLE search engine, all approve of Dahl and therefore, being sly, subversive and sneaky is OKAY?


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