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Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 12:53:06 pm PDT

The common argument that crime is caused by poverty is a kind of slander on the poor.

H. L. Mencken

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1 m  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:54:35pm

And a gorgeous Saturday afternoon it is :)

2 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:54:41pm

A rich man is nothing but a poor man with money.



W. C. Fields

3 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:55:08pm

Columbia students to protest

A law student Aviva Robbin is one of nearly a 100 students who have united on Facebook and have planned to protest against Ahmadinejad speaking on their campus.

''While we do value academic debate and freedom of speech we do not feel that it would be a violation of these values not to have the President of Iran on our campus. He is a known state sponsor of terrorism and he has many human rights violations on his record and by having him here it seems as if Columbia is legitimising what he has to say and endorsing his views in the public opinion,'' said Aviva Robin.

4 Pope Urban  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:55:15pm

I thought being poor was curable according to the dems.

5 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:55:24pm
The common argument that crime terrorism is caused by poverty is a kind of slander on the poor.

Updated for a new era.

6 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:55:57pm

How about Dinnerjacket t-shirts? Sheesh when will these idiots stop? "mister dinner jacket can I ahve your autograph on my koran"? ahahaha.

7 Jay777  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:56:25pm
8 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:57:04pm

IAF fighter jets were scrambled on Saturday morning towards the Golan Heights after a Syrian aircraft suddenly disappeared from radar screens.

After a short while it became evident that the plane had crashed in Syrian territory and the planes return to their base.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

9 Jay777  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:57:16pm

One more to share. This one is funny.

The Shoplifting Seagull

10 americanpundit  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:57:23pm

So, how 'bout them North Koreans...


A report says North Korea has trained Syrian missile engineers and the Arab nation has bartered farm products and computers for missiles from the Stalinist state.

The two countries have recently strengthened missile cooperation, with Syrian engineers staying in Pyongyang to acquire technology, South Korea’s Yonhap news agency said.

The barter system began in 1995 due to Syria’s worsening financial woes.

Syria has shipped cotton, food and computers to North Korea in return for buying short-range missiles, the report said.

Because the situation simply wasn't craptastic enough...

11 Charles  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:58:04pm

If you've been keeping track, you may have noticed that it's been several days since our last hamster panic at LGF.

I discovered (and fixed) a pretty serious bug in one of the PEAR modules that runs this site, that was leading to the creation of orphaned processes that were taking up huge chunks of the web server's memory.

At this point, the load spikes that were knocking us offline seem to be history. (Of course, as soon as I write that, we'll probably have another one just so Murphy can prove me wrong.)

We're still going to be moving to a load-balanced multi-server setup, so that we can stay online even with huge traffic from a site like Drudge Report.

But this bug fix means we'll be able to stay online much more consistently in the meantime.

12 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:58:28pm
Iran's spiritual leader, the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei warned the West against attacking Iran, saying any attack would have "grave consequences", the Iranian news agencies reported Saturday.

"A 'hit-and-run' military strike against Iran in not possible... anyone attacking us shall suffer the consequences," he said. (Dudi Cohen

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

13 jcm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:58:54pm

re: #4 Pope Urban

I thought being poor was curable according to the dems.

Take your money and give it to them. You obliviously have too much.

14 m  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:58:56pm

That Murphy is a bitch.

15 troonbop  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:00:28pm

Alway wondered about that too, as if the poor people who don't turn to crime lack intiative.

16 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:01:04pm

"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
-- J. Danforth Quayle

17 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:01:20pm
18 zygazint  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:01:25pm

Love a good quotation, Charles, thanks! And! the infamous open thread...

"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
- Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower (1887-1956)

19 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:01:48pm

re: #5 Sharmuta

The common argument that crime terrorism is caused by poverty is a kind of slander on the poor.

Updated for a new era.

Good one.

20 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:03:08pm

IAEA slams Israel's nuclear policy

Besides Washington, only Israel voted against the resolution while 53 nations backed it and 47 abstained.


The sign of the times

21 m  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:03:16pm

"I'm spending a year dead for tax reasons."
--Douglas Adams

22 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:03:46pm

re: #17 JammieWearingFool

Algore is now annoying the folks down under

Just shut up already.

Any way we could get them to keep him?

23 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:04:21pm

I like to keep a bottle of stimulant handy in case I see a snake, which I also keep handy.
W. C. Fields

24 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:04:28pm

re: #11 Charles

My remote connection to work crapped out about 10 minutes ago while I was on the last thread and I at first feared the hamsters were having a brief work stoppage.

Had to switch to my other machine. Sadly, those TPS reports will have to wait.

25 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:04:41pm

Good work Charles, tracking down and killing things like that is always difficult.

It's a good practice to read "root" email after a crash, it's really old style but there are still many things in *ix systems that will mail root right before dying.

26 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:05:01pm

"Sobriety is for people who can't handle drugs."

~Lily Tomlin

27 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:05:28pm

Hillary interview on LGBT issues for the Oct edition of The Advocate

28 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:05:36pm

Thank you Charles, for this quote. I have been saying this for years as a counter to my moonbat friends' arguments about crime. We grew up dirt poor and I did not turn to a life of crime or prostitution. Many poor people work very hard and try to teach their children good values. I'm sick to death of hearing this cause/effect connection -- it is a MYTH created by liberals. It is much closer to the truth to say that a life of crime leads to poverty.

29 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:05:45pm
The common argument that crime terrorism is caused by poverty is a kind of slander on the poor.

— H. L. Mencken

There...updated that for ya.

/Bin Laden & The 19 hijackers weren't exactly impoverished

30 zygazint  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:06:28pm

"Assassins!"
- Arturo Toscanini (1867-1957) to his orchestra

31 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:07:31pm

re: #22 MandyManners

re: #17 JammieWearingFool

Algore is now annoying the folks down under

Just shut up already.

Any way we could get them to keep him?


WHy would they want him. They seem pretty sane.

Maybe someone can airdrop him over Antartica.

32 m  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:07:35pm

"Whoever said money can't buy happiness simply didn't know where to go shopping."
--Bo Derek

33 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:07:53pm

Always keep a litter bag in your car. It doesn't take up much room, and when it gets full, you can just throw it out the window.

Steve Martin

34 m  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:07:59pm

"All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy."
--Spike Milligan

35 FrogMarch  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:08:07pm

Last day of summer in the northern hemisphere. enjoy.

36 abolitionist  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:08:16pm

Iranian Atomic Energy Organization Director: Document On Completion Of Bushehr Reactor To Be Signed Prior To Putin's Visit To Iran


Under the fifth Russian-Iranian agreement, Russia committed to transfer 90 tons of nuclear fuel by March 2006 and to activate the reactor by September 2007.

Source: IRNA, September 20, 2007.
Posted at: 2007-09-21

*Checking calendar*

Questions, questions. How hot is the Bushehr Reactor?
Will it be made hotter during Ahmadinejad's visit?

37 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:08:41pm

Nine and half minutes into the first quarter Ohio State leads Northwestern 28-0.

38 filetandrelease  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:09:18pm

re: #8 storagemanager

After a short while it became evident that the plane had crashed in Syrian territory and the planes return to their base.

Must be one of those super duper Iran made fighter jets.

39 jcm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:09:34pm

re: #29 Fenway_Nation

The common argument that crime terrorism is caused by poverty is a kind of slander on the poor.— H. L. Mencken

There...updated that for ya.

/Bin Laden & The 19 hijackers weren't exactly impoverished

Quit messing up liberal platitudes with facts will ya'!
Poverty causes terrorism, crime, obesity, you just need to fall in line or we'll have to send you to re-education camp.
/sarc

40 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:09:37pm
We are all born Liberal but most of us grow out of it by the time we hit puberty


Myself

41 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:10:57pm

4 Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscar'i-ot, Simon's son, which should betray him, Presidential candidate, John Edwards
5 Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?

6 This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.

7 Then said Jesus, Let her alone: against the day of my burying hath she kept this.

8 For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always.

Power to the Correct People!
(Rich and Poor!)

42 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:11:15pm

re: #31 JammieWearingFool

re: #22 MandyManners


re: #17 JammieWearingFool

Algore is now annoying the folks down under

Just shut up already.


Any way we could get them to keep him?

WHy would they want him. They seem pretty sane.

Maybe someone can airdrop him over Antartica.

And piss of the poor penguins?

43 Blue Chip  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:11:24pm

Who knew Columbia University was the 8th holiest site in Islam?

-Blue Chip

44 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:11:40pm

Ibrahim Hooper on CNN...
CAIR Rep Discusses Rep. King's 'Too Many Mosques' Statement

Rudy Giuliani is spewing "utter non-sense".

45 m  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:12:11pm

re: #36 abolitionist

Are they getting ready for October 12th?

46 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:12:51pm

re: #42 MandyManners

And piss of the poor penguins?

You see him in that tux? He's one of them.

47 filetandrelease  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:13:48pm

re: #30 zygazint


Assassins!"
- Arturo Toscanini (1867-1957) to his orchestra

If recollection serves me, assassin is a term derived from an early muslim sect who used murder of their political rivals as a means to gain power. It was very successful for a few centuries keeping the shia in control of the caliphate.

48 Jack Reacher  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:14:13pm

re: #24 JammieWearingFool

Don't forget the TPS reports get new cover sheets now. Did you get that memo?

49 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:14:36pm

Request:

If someone has a copy of Shotgun News handy, I need to know what the current prices are on the following types of ammunition:

.308 rifle (7.62 x 51 NATO)
.223 rilfe (5.56 x 45 US)
7.62 x 39 (AK)

Thanks.

50 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:14:56pm

Drown in a cold vat of whiskey? Death, where is thy sting?
W. C. Fields

51 zygazint  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:15:03pm

"Many wealthy people are little more than janitors of their possessions."
- Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)

52 Logan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:15:22pm

Anyone watching the UFC tonight?

53 Carl in Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:15:33pm

Good week and good year everyone!

Yom Kippur suicide bombing foiled in Tel Aviv

54 m  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:15:46pm

re: #51 zygazint

Naah. You can pay people for that :)

55 zygazint  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:15:59pm

re: #47 filetandrelease

re: #30 zygazint


Assassins!"
- Arturo Toscanini (1867-1957) to his orchestra

If recollection serves me, assassin is a term derived from an early muslim sect who used murder of their political rivals as a means to gain power. It was very successful for a few centuries keeping the shia in control of the caliphate.

I thought it had an arabian nights feel to it lol! thanks for that bit of historic trivia though :)

56 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:16:06pm

re: #49 The Other Les

Request:

If someone has a copy of Shotgun News handy, I need to know what the current prices are on the following types of ammunition:

.308 rifle (7.62 x 51 NATO)
.223 rilfe (5.56 x 45 US)
7.62 x 39 (AK)

Thanks.

Planning to invade Richfield, Les?

57 zygazint  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:16:17pm

re: #54 m

re: #51 zygazint

Naah. You can pay people for that :)

lol!

58 filetandrelease  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:16:42pm

re: #52 Logan


I might.

59 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:16:53pm

re: #40 LeftJustAintRight

We are all born Liberal but most of us grow out of it by the time we hit puberty


Myself

It took me a few years after puberty hit. I always was a slow starter.

60 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:18:32pm

re: #48 Jack Reacher

re: #24 JammieWearingFool

Don't forget the TPS reports get new cover sheets now. Did you get that memo?

Yes, but it's the the mailbox I can't access.

I guess I'll have to watch football.

61 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:18:39pm

re: #59 Nevergiveup

It took me a few years after puberty hit. I always was a slow starter.


Don't feel bad
Some never will

62 filetandrelease  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:18:46pm

re: #55 zygazint


And somehow, assassin having an islamic root just seems, well, right.

63 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:19:07pm

re: #53 Carl in Jerusalem

Good week and good year everyone!

Yom Kippur suicide bombing foiled in Tel Aviv

buh buh buh ... but ... it's just after the day of Peace for Islam. This must be a mistake... was it really a plot by the Ahura Mazdans?

/

64 Blue Chip  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:19:23pm
There are those, I know, who will say that the liberation of humanity, the freedom of man and mind, is nothing but a dream. They are right. It is the American dream. ~Archibald MacLeish
65 abolitionist  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:19:45pm

re: #45 m

re: #36 abolitionist

Are they getting ready for October 12th?

A military attack on a reactor site tends to be much messier after it is fueled and active. Reactors are needed for making Plutonium, not for refining/separating Uranium.

66 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:20:29pm

re: #54 m

re: #51 zygazint

Naah. You can pay people for that :)



How many WASPs (white anglo-saxon Protestants) does it take to change a light-bulb?

Two. One to mix the drinks and the other to call the servants.

PTTCP

67 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:21:24pm

Heh.

Syracuse shocks No. 18 Louisville, 38-35

Brian Brohm completed 45-of-65 passes for a career-high 555 yards and four scores for Louisville, but the Cardinals' defense allowed Syracuse — which entered the game ranked near the bottom nationally in every offensive category — to pile up 465 yards and make big play after big play.

Syracuse, a 36 1/2 point underdog, built a 17-point lead in the fourth quarter before trying to make it interesting late. The Orange turned the ball over twice in the final minutes allowing Louisville to get within three with 56 seconds left.

68 ChristianRepublic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:22:09pm

re: #2 Noam Sayin'

A rich man is nothing but a poor man with money.

W. C. Fields

"The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad," -Salvador Dali

69 zygazint  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:22:20pm

re: #53 Carl in Jerusalem

May your year be sweet, CIJ

70 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:22:21pm

re: #64 Blue Chip

There are those, I know, who will say that the liberation of humanity, the freedom of man and mind, is nothing but a dream. They are right. It is the American dream. ~Archibald MacLeish

Temporarily suspended this Monday Sept. 24th, 2007 in the borough of Manhattan at Columbia University.

71 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:22:55pm

Rudy on Hillary:

Giuliani used some of Hillary Clinton’s own words to attack the New York Senator for her vote against a senate resolution condemning the MoveOn “betray us” ad, accusing her of supporting “politics of personal destruction.” Giuliani said, “I'm not intimidated by MoveOn.org. ... I think they are the worst thing in American politics. ... They are precisely what the Clintons used to talk about as participating in the politics of personal destruction.”

Also Rudy and McCain will speak or have spoken at the NRA recently, anyone have links to the transcripts or news yet?

72 debutaunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:23:19pm

I've never been a millionaire but I just know I'd be darling at it. Dorothy Parkerre: #54 m

73 ChristianRepublic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:23:36pm

re: #4 Pope Urban

I thought being poor was curable according to the dems.

The Dems doon't want to "sure" poverty, that would rob them of half of their putative constituency.

74 missouri boy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:23:37pm

"Ain't no man can avoid being born average, but there ain't no man got to be common"

Satchel Paige

75 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:24:32pm

re: #44 Killgore Trout

Ibrahim Hooper on CNN...
CAIR Rep Discusses Rep. King's 'Too Many Mosques' Statement

Rudy Giuliani is spewing "utter non-sense".

What's a day without hearing from the shit-slinging monkey?!

76 kildorn  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:24:56pm

re: #49 The Other Les

I'm curious about the .223 as well. Just got my kit in last week and have been too busy to do anything with it.

77 ChristianRepublic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:25:02pm

re: #73 ChristianRepublic

re: #4 Pope Urban


I thought being poor was curable according to the dems.

The Dems doon't want to "sure" poverty, that would rob them of half of their putative constituency.

SCIMF

That's "don't want to cure..."

78 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:25:13pm

An oldie but goodie:
Money isn't everything but it is way ahead of anything in second place!

79 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:25:32pm

re: #46 JammieWearingFool

re: #42 MandyManners


And piss of the poor penguins?

You see him in that tux? He's one of them.

LOL! He waddles, too.

80 FrogMarch  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:25:43pm
81 jcm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:25:51pm

Since it is an open thread.

Some

people should never be let out of the city.

...searchers found a note from Wingfield indicating that she was out of food and water and needed immediate help. The note said she planned to follow the creek downstream.

WTF? She is out of WATER, and is following the CREEK downstream. Just what was in the F'in creek?

82 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:26:23pm

re: #47 filetandrelease

re: #30 zygazint


Assassins!"
- Arturo Toscanini (1867-1957) to his orchestra

If recollection serves me, assassin is a term derived from an early muslim sect who used murder of their political rivals as a means to gain power. It was very successful for a few centuries keeping the shia in control of the caliphate.

It comes from "hashish" which the killers would smoke to stoke them up.

83 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:26:37pm

re: #81 jcm

Since it is an open thread.

Some

people should never be let out of the city...searchers found a note from Wingfield indicating that she was out of food and water and needed immediate help. The note said she planned to follow the creek downstream.

WTF? She is out of WATER, and is following the CREEK downstream. Just what was in the F'in creek?

The dope probably peed in the creek

84 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:26:54pm

Money doesn't buy happiness but it does make being depressed alot more comfortable.

85 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:27:14pm

It ain't braggin' if you can do it.

~ Dizzy Dean

86 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:28:10pm

re: #85 Geepers

It ain't braggin' if you can do it.

~ Dizzy Dean

I guarantee it!
Joe Namath

87 ChristianRepublic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:28:37pm

re: #31 JammieWearingFool

re: #22 MandyManners


re: #17 JammieWearingFool

Algore is now annoying the folks down under

Just shut up already.


Any way we could get them to keep him?

WHy would they want him. They seem pretty sane.

Maybe someone can airdrop him over Antartica.

Our soldiers fighting AQ should rub their ammo on him. To make it unclean in a porcine way. Can we say "ammo"?

88 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:29:12pm

re: #56 Noam Sayin'

The short story is that the brother I'm living with right now doesn't want it in his house and a friend on mine found a buyer for it.

89 Render  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:29:15pm

re: #38 filetandrelease

More likely it was one of the newish MiG-31's that the Syrians got in a straight up trade for the MiG-25's they could neither fly nor maintain.

That's what happens when all your best pilots get shot down.

REPEATEDLY,
R

90 ChristianRepublic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:29:41pm

re: #83 Nevergiveup

re: #81 jcm


Since it is an open thread.

Some


people should never be let out of the city...searchers found a note from Wingfield indicating that she was out of food and water and needed immediate help. The note said she planned to follow the creek downstream.

WTF? She is out of WATER, and is following the CREEK downstream. Just what was in the F'in creek?

The dope probably peed in the creek


Yer supposed to pee downstream.

91 zygazint  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:29:43pm

re: #66 IslandLibertarian

re: #62 filetandrelease

re: #82 MandyManners

oh my

92 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:30:01pm

re: #62 filetandrelease

Chemically speaking.

93 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:30:34pm

Whoops never mind, the NRA speeches were last night -- here's an article

[Link: www.cbn.com...]

The AP and NYT versions aren't as kind.

94 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:31:24pm

re: #71 Thanos

Hot Air caught a blunder from Rudy...
Video: Rudy confuses the Second Amendment with the Fourth — in front of the NRA

Heh. He also took a staged phone call from his wife that came off kinda goofy.
Overall, I think a few people were satisfied with his speech.

95 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:31:46pm

re: #90 ChristianRepublic

I know that-peeing down stream and all. I referring to the out of water part. Maybe she thought water also flowed upstream.

96 filetandrelease  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:32:09pm

re: #89 Render

Being a fighter pilot for Syria or Iran could possible be the worst job in the world.

97 Carl in Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:32:10pm

re: #69 zygazint

re: #53 Carl in Jerusalem

May your year be sweet, CIJ

Thanks and same to you.

98 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:32:20pm

re: #91 zygazint

Ever heard of Lebanese Red? Good stuff.

99 ChristianRepublic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:33:11pm

re: #95 Nevergiveup

re: #90 ChristianRepublic

I know that-peeing down stream and all. I referring to the out of water part. Maybe she thought water also flowed upstream.

We've already given it more attention that it etc.

100 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:33:56pm

re: #96 filetandrelease

re: #89 Render

Being a fighter pilot for Syria or Iran could possible be the worst job in the world.

I think that prize might actually go to being a guard at a Iranian Nuclear site!

101 abolitionist  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:34:15pm

re: #96 filetandrelease

re: #89 Render

Being a fighter pilot for Syria or Iran could possible be the worst job in the world.

Or one of Saddam's doubles.

102 zygazint  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:34:20pm

re: #98 MandyManners

re: #91 zygazint

Ever heard of Lebanese Red? Good stuff.

My eldest brother introduced all forms of that 'stuff' to our house in the early 70's. I remember names like acapulco gold, panama red etc..

103 Canadian Guy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:35:04pm

Jihad a possilbe mental illness

Mental exam ordered by judgeBy Sean Delaney, Press & Guide Newspapers
PUBLISHED: September 23, 2007

A Dearborn man accused of wielding a loaded AK-47 semi-automatic rifle in a public park earlier this month agreed to delay his preliminary examination Friday morning in 19th District Court.

Houssein Zorkot, 26, is scheduled to return to that same courtroom at 9 a.m. Nov. 9 after undergoing a psychological evaluation to determine his competency and criminal responsibility in the case.

Michigan law normally requires a preliminary hearing within 14 days of a defendant's arraignment on charges.

Zorkot, who is of Lebanese descent, was arrested Sept. 8 in Hemlock Park and has been charged with one count of carrying a dangerous weapon with unlawful intent, one count of possession of a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle and one count felony firearm.

He was arraigned on Sept. 11 in 19th District Court — the same day a nation mourned those who lost their lives during the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

City officials issued a press release about the incident that same day; however, their response has come under fire from some groups, who say that the city waited too long to release important information about an incident that occurred just days prior to the sixth anniversary of the attacks.

Dearborn Mayor Jack O'Reilly has defended the city's decision, and told the Press & Guide earlier this month that the information was withheld until after Zorkot's arraignment to avoid stirring up fears of another terrorist attack.
However, with more than a dozen Web sites already labeling Zorkot a would-be terrorist, their efforts may have been in vain.

Critics say Zorkot's Web site — [Link: www.zorkot.org...] — openly supports Hezbollah, a group designated as a terrorist organization by the United States, and features a picture posted on Sept. 8 which states that Zorkot had begun his "personal Jihad (in the U.S.)."
A search of Zorkot's home immediately following the incident also revealed several photographs, which were taken during a recent trip he took to Lebanon and featured him standing in front of pro-Hezbollah billboards.
However, Zorkot has not been identified as a terrorist and has yet to be linked to any terrorist group or terrorist activities, according to Gerald Gleeson, a Pontiac-based attorney who represented Zorkot in court Friday.

"My client has no criminal record and has not been charged as a terrorist," Gleeson said before requesting that the $1 million cash bond set Sept. 11 by Judge Mark Somers be reduced to $50,000 cash/10 percent.

In exchange for a lower bond, Zorkot would agree to wear a tether, which would allow law enforcement officials to locate him at any time.

However, Detective Sgt. Ron Beggs of the Dearborn Police Department said that given the nature of the charges against Zorkot — and his potential as a flight risk — lowering the bond would be unwise.

Judge William Hultgren agreed, and set the $1 million bond. The judge did, however, agree to review the matter at a future date.

If Zorkot's family is unable to raise the bond, he will remain in custody until his next court date.

For more on this ongoing story, see Wednesday's Press & Guide.

104 filetandrelease  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:35:50pm

re: #102 zygazint


Sure,...your brother.

105 Logan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:36:50pm

I'm thinking Fitch is gonna win,
but I'm not too sure about the other matches...

106 m  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:37:21pm

re: #66 IslandLibertarian

re: #72 debutaunt

:-D

"If there is anyone to whom I owe money, I'm prepared to forget it if they are."
--Errol Flynn

107 zygazint  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:38:01pm

re: #104 filetandrelease

re: #102 zygazint


Sure,...your brother.

lol it's true - he was like the wc fields of the family..i remember once when i was about 8 or 9 ( he was 4 yrs my senior) he was smoking a cigarette to which i replied ugh how could you and he said 'you'll be doing it too one day' - i mean he was about 13 or 14 years old and the most jaded guy already...it's sad...

108 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:39:10pm

Iran smacks down Canada...
Iran attacks Canada's human rights record


"Routine unlawful strip and beatings by Canadian police has been a matter of concern for international community," notes the booklet, entitled Report on Human Rights Situation in Canada, adding that "the practice of police is alarming simply because I it is functioning as if there is no need to have judges."

The publication, which claims its allegations are drawn from "objective and factual information released by authentic and credible international sources", alleges that a range of human rights violations occur in Canada, especially toward aboriginal peoples and immigrants.

"To the great dismay of the international community, it is a great concern that the rights of women are violated, and no serious attention has been paid in promotion and protection of women's rights in Canada."

Heh.

109 ted  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:40:52pm

It always amazes me when men of brilliant minds like Mencken, Twain, Churchill can destroy commonly accepted erroneous beliefs with billions of pages of support over centuries in less than 3 sentences.

110 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:41:13pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

Those damn Canadians! If they would only adopt Sharia Law...

111 ChristianRepublic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:41:48pm

re: #109 ted

It always amazes me when men of brilliant minds like Mencken, Twain, Churchill can destroy commonly accepted erroneous beliefs with billions of pages of support over centuries in less than 3 sentences.


Example?

112 ted  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:43:16pm

re: #102 zygazint

re: #98 MandyManners

re: #91 zygazint

Ever heard of Lebanese Red? Good stuff.

My eldest brother introduced all forms of that 'stuff' to our house in the early 70's. I remember names like acapulco gold, panama red etc..

Cheba-Cheba...

113 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:44:00pm

re: #94 Killgore Trout

re: #71 Thanos

Hot Air caught a blunder from Rudy...
Video: Rudy confuses the Second Amendment with the Fourth — in front of the NRA

Heh. He also took a staged phone call from his wife that came off kinda goofy.
Overall, I think a few people were satisfied with his speech.

Rudy has no hair and a great accent...he's a shoe in for the nomination...if and when he debates Hillary it will be a friggin bloodbath...Rudy's a lock...see your bookie soon...

114 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:44:54pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

[Link: www.iranfocus.com...]

I guess the Mullahs missed this...too busy "burhka-izing" the local babes

115 ChristianRepublic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:45:06pm

Rudy apparently confused the 2nd and 4th Amerndments, but the 4th certainly supports the 2nd: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures..."

116 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:45:34pm

re: #113 albusteve

I hope you're right. I might be able to settle for McCain or Mitt but no Fred for me.

117 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:46:55pm

Prohibition is better than no liquor at all.

- Will Rogers

118 m  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:47:31pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

Now that is funny.

Written by Iran "in the name of God," the document asserts that the Canadian government denies its people food, clean water and the right to work.
119 Piglet-U93  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:48:07pm

re: #81 jcm

Since it is an open thread.

Some

people should never be let out of the city...searchers found a note from Wingfield indicating that she was out of food and water and needed immediate help. The note said she planned to follow the creek downstream.

WTF? She is out of WATER, and is following the CREEK downstream. Just what was in the F'in creek?

Most people can live for a couple of months without food I have gone without food for 15 days twice. Water is essential and most can only last less than 5 days without it.

120 J.D.  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:48:54pm
One pair of shoes can change your life.

~Cinderella

121 ted  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:49:20pm

re: #111 ChristianRepublic

All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope.

Sir Winston Churchill

122 ChristianRepublic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:49:31pm

re: #117 mama winger

Prohibition is better than no liquor at all.

- Will Rogers

"When I was a young man I spent 90% of my money on booze, broads and the ponies. The rest I just wasted." -Unknown

123 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:49:43pm

LONDON (Reuters) - About 16,000 words have succumbed to pressures of the Internet age and lost their hyphens in a new edition of the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary.

Bumble-bee is now bumblebee, ice-cream is ice cream and pot-belly is pot belly.

And if you've got a problem, don't be such a crybaby (formerly cry-baby).

The hyphen has been squeezed as informal ways of communicating, honed in text messages and emails, spread on Web sites and seep into newspapers and books.

"People are not confident about using hyphens anymore, they're not really sure what they are for," said Angus Stevenson, editor of the Shorter OED, the sixth edition of which was published this week.

Another factor in the hyphen's demise is designers' distaste for its ungainly horizontal bulk between words.

SNIP

Oh, the hyphenity!

124 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:50:20pm

re: #122 ChristianRepublic

re: #117 mama winger

Prohibition is better than no liquor at all.

- Will Rogers

"When I was a young man I spent 90% of my money on booze, broads and the ponies. The rest I just wasted." -Unknown

Sounds like my son! LOL

125 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:50:27pm

re: #116 Killgore Trout

re: #113 albusteve

I hope you're right. I might be able to settle for McCain or Mitt but no Fred for me.


forget those stiffs...Rudy is one of the guys you wait...sorry to sound so sure...I'm not patronizing by any means...I jusy know this to be true...he's getting stronger with his NRA gig and by next year he'll have something for everybody on the right...

126 Desert Dog  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:50:42pm

re: #111 ChristianRepublic

An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Sir Winston Churchill

All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope.
Sir Winston Churchill

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.
Sir Winston Churchill

127 m  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:50:48pm

re: #117 mama winger

Without prohibition we wouldn't have nascar~

re: #120 J.D.

She wasn't kidding! :)

128 kendig  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:50:52pm

It's time to boycott Mattel for their groveling, it's our fault apology to the Chinese Commies for the imported toys with lead paint.

129 ChristianRepublic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:51:53pm

re: #121 ted

re: #111 ChristianRepublic

All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope.

Sir Winston Churchill

Not hostile, jes wonderin, what "commonly accepted erroneous beliefs" are overturned by this statement, especially in a nation -England- in which liberty made its greatest strides?

130 J.D.  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:52:16pm

Correction:

One shoe can change your life.
~Cinderella

Drugs?
What drugs?

131 Canadian Guy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:53:13pm

"To alcohol! The cause of and solution to all of life's problems."
Homer Simpson

132 ChristianRepublic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:53:17pm

re: #124 mama winger

re: #122 ChristianRepublic


re: #117 mama winger

Prohibition is better than no liquor at all.

- Will Rogers


"When I was a young man I spent 90% of my money on booze, broads and the ponies. The rest I just wasted." -Unknown

Sounds like my son! LOL

Mom?

133 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:54:04pm

re: #131 Canadian Guy

"To alcohol! The cause of and solution to all of life's problems."
Homer Simpson

drink!

134 J.D.  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:55:00pm

re: #127 m

re: #120 J.D.

She wasn't kidding! :)



Hey m!

It's good to see you!

135 ChristianRepublic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:55:15pm

re: #126 Desert Dog

re: #111 ChristianRepublic

An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Sir Winston Churchill

All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope.
Sir Winston Churchill

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.
Sir Winston Churchill


These things are axiomatic. I mean, they might be news to commies or mullahs or the DNC, but... What great men often have the ability to do is distill something we all know well into a sentence that makes us say, "I always knew that: why didn't I say it?!"

136 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:55:17pm

re: #127 m

Without prohibition we wouldn't have nascar~

That thar is a truism.

137 Shug  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:56:22pm
An alcoholic is someone you don’t like who drinks as much as you do.

Dylan Thomas

138 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:57:04pm

re: #132 ChristianRepublic

Hahaha!

(Mebbe - he does lurk at LGF , and has been known to post a time or two.)

Are you a devout Lutheran? In the Army? Like to play poker? Know Greek?

If so, you just might be Little Winger :)

139 ChristianRepublic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:57:05pm

re: #136 mama winger

re: #127 m


Without prohibition we wouldn't have nascar~

That thar is a truism.


Varooom! See y'all.

140 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:58:15pm

re: #128 kendig

It's time to boycott Mattel for their groveling, it's our fault apology to the Chinese Commies for the imported toys with lead paint.

Mattel's turned around and is now blaming itself for the recalls, saying that the Chinese did nothing wrong.

141 Dianna  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:58:24pm

re: #9 Jay777

I just tuned in; that is hysterical. I don't think I've seen an animal video I've enjoyed that much in a very long time.

142 m  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:58:38pm

re: #134 J.D.!

Good to see you! We were worried aboutcha!

143 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:00:09pm

&#9834 &#9835 &#9836 Afternoon lizards! &#9834 &#9835 &#9836

144 m  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:00:42pm

Yaay! {Miss Trixie}! is musical again!

145 ChristianRepublic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:02:07pm

re: #138 mama winger

re: #132 ChristianRepublic

Hahaha!

(Mebbe - he does lurk at LGF , and has been known to post a time or two.)

Are you a devout Lutheran? In the Army? Like to play poker? Know Greek?

If so, you just might be Little Winger :)

3 outa 4 aint' bad! In fact we are joining a Lutheran church tomorrow, I'm the world's 387th best poker player, and (phonetically) "ean ma tis gennetha anothen, ou dunatai idein tan basileian tou theou.

How odd.

146 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:02:50pm

Mattel Seeks to Placate China With Apology

Mattel Inc. made a public apology to China for damage to the country's reputation stemming from a spate of toy recalls. It was an extraordinary attempt to placate Mattel's most important supplier, but it is likely to shift the spotlight to the company's own responsibility in the crisis.

In its apology, the world's largest toy maker said its own "design flaw" was responsible for the biggest recall by far, involving around 18 million playsets studded with potentially dangerous magnets.

While soothing China's pride, the apology could make Mattel a target in lawsuits. "I can't think of any other instance where" a major toy company "has actually come out with such a public announcement of a defect," said Andrew Krulwich, a former general counsel for the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission who now practices at Wiley Rein LLP.

SNIP

147 Dianna  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:02:58pm

If we're trading quotes, I have a favorite. Something of a doozy.

This was said by Gouvernor Morris during the Constitutional Convention of 1787:

A standing army is like a standing member: A wonderful guarantee of domestic tranquility, but a terrible temptation to foreign adventure.

I forget where I first encountered that, but isn't it great?

148 ChristianRepublic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:03:22pm

L8r ma!

149 m  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:03:52pm

re: #146 MandyManners

Wow.

150 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:04:49pm

re: #147 Dianna

If we're trading quotes, I have a favorite. Something of a doozy.

This was said by Gouvernor Morris during the Constitutional Convention of 1787:


A standing army is like a standing member: A wonderful guarantee of domestic tranquility, but a terrible temptation to foreign adventure.

I forget where I first encountered that, but isn't it great?

Whoa.

151 Conserve Liberty  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:05:11pm

***Note to those who believe we are free.

Rights are vested in the man, not the state, so the state passes laws.

Laws make actions criminal.

Free people act.

Laws cause crime.

152 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:05:22pm

re: #149 m

Giant suck-up.

153 Macker  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:05:46pm

re: #146 MandyManners

Talk about Shot Wheels...

154 nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:07:09pm

re: #120 J.D.

One pair of shoes can change your life.~Cinderella

I thought Imelda Marcos said that!

155 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:08:45pm

re: #153 Macker

re: #146 MandyManners

Talk about Shot Wheels...

LOL! That's great!

156 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:08:53pm

{m} Hello toots! glad to see you - it's been a while ...what snoo?

:D

157 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:09:30pm

Bad News for "Ex-Gay" Movement


Two scholars funded by the "ex-gay" ministry Exodus reported greatly mixed results this week in the most ambitious study yet on whether faith-based therapy can "cure" homosexuality, days after a counselor in another "ex-gay" program was sentenced on felony charges of sexually attacking his male clients.

ooops!

158 nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:09:33pm

Yankees just took the lead and the Irish are down 17-14 but driving 2nd quater

159 Dianna  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:10:08pm

Oh, well. I'm summoned for dog walking and grocery shopping.

Blech.

Have fun, folks.

160 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:10:16pm

Good news:

Global Warming to Wash Away U.S. History

Rising waters will lap at the foundations of old money Wall Street and the new money towers of Silicon Valley. They will swamp the locations of big city airports and major interstate highways.
162 J.D.  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:11:12pm

re: #142 m

re: #134 J.D.!

Good to see you! We were worried aboutcha!

That is so nice!
It's been a rough 6 months but I'm still hanging in there!
I have a shoulder, etc. problem that's kept me from posting, not to mention being whacked out on prescription drugs [not to be confused with the other kind, of course], so I have found posting to be challenging, to say the least, as is apparent above...

That said, you simply can't keep a good woman down, as you well know.
:-)


I missed all y'all!

163 ornery elephant  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:11:28pm
164 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:11:29pm

re: #144 m

Yaay! {Miss Trixie}! is musical again!

I didn't know about the code until yesterday (thanks IreneNYC *mwah*) and I was all ready to give it up after Charles changed the site thingamajiggy-thang which caused my notes to disappear.

165 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:13:31pm

re: #162 J.D.

re: #142 m


re: #134 J.D.!

Good to see you! We were worried aboutcha!


That is so nice!
It's been a rough 6 months but I'm still hanging in there!
I have a shoulder, etc. problem that's kept me from posting, not to mention being whacked out on prescription drugs [not to be confused with the other kind, of course], so I have found posting to be challenging, to say the least, as is apparent above...

That said, you simply can't keep a good woman down, as you well know.
:-)


I missed all y'all!

Glad you're back, toots.

166 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:13:42pm

re: #145 ChristianRepublic

Odd indeed.

But are you drunk every Thursday and Friday night? Do you smoke cigars and fart in the living room on a regular basis ? :)


What synod? We are WELS, the really really fanatical ones - LOL!

168 RedPepper  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:15:12pm

“Many complain of their memory, few of their Judgement.”
-- Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac, 1745

169 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:15:23pm

re: #162 J.D.

Remember the "throwing plates" sound in the Lounge?

170 kcladderman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:15:43pm

re: #86 Nevergiveup

re: #85 Geepers


It ain't braggin' if you can do it.

~ Dizzy Dean


I guarantee it!
Joe Namath


i WANNA GIVE YOU A KISH.
Joe Namath when drunk

171 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:16:25pm

re: #162 J.D.

{J.D.}

Good to see you, friend.

172 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:16:45pm

re: #160 JammieWearingFool

Good news:

Global Warming to Wash Away U.S. History

Rising waters will lap at the foundations of old money Wall Street and the new money towers of Silicon Valley. They will swamp the locations of big city airports and major interstate highways.

selective armageddon...I like it!...

173 FishFearMe  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:18:05pm

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day...teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day.

174 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:18:08pm

OMG OMG OMG! My husband just sent me this: Germany encouraging pedophilia and child sexual abuse under the guise of creating a "healthy" sexuality in children! You never saw something so disgusting. This is being promoted by the state, as far as the article goes.

[Link: www.lifesite.net...]

175 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:18:20pm

re: #172 albusteve

re: #160 JammieWearingFool


Good news:

Global Warming to Wash Away U.S. History

Rising waters will lap at the foundations of old money Wall Street and the new money towers of Silicon Valley. They will swamp the locations of big city airports and major interstate highways.

selective armageddon...I like it!...


not really...pass the petunias...I need a whiff

176 J.D.  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:18:31pm

re: #154 nevergiveup

re: #120 J.D.

One pair of shoes can change your life.~Cinderella

I thought Imelda Marcos said that!

Unless I'm mistaken, I think Imelda said that even a closet full of shoes couldn't really change her life.

Or something like that.

But I could be wrong...

177 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:18:46pm

re: #172 albusteve

Anybody wishing to avoid Armegeddon rising waters due to Global WAAArming is welcome at my house in Wisconsin. Y'all come.

178 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:18:47pm

Build a man a fire, and he'll stay warm for a day. If you set the man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

179 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:18:48pm

Here's an interesting Tid-bit (sorry for that Hypen!)...
In California Hillary is polling lower than Kerry in '04 -- with Rudy only ten points down before the real campaign has started.

180 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:18:53pm

re: #172 albusteve

re: #160 JammieWearingFool

Good news:

Global Warming to Wash Away U.S. History

Rising waters will lap at the foundations of old money Wall Street and the new money towers of Silicon Valley. They will swamp the locations of big city airports and major interstate highways.

selective armageddon...I like it!...

Better hustle down to South Beach while it's still there.

181 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:19:37pm

It takes a strong man to cry but it takes an even stronger man to laugh at that man! Jack Handey

182 RedPepper  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:19:40pm

“In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” -- George Orwell

183 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:20:27pm

Hiroshima scientists create transparent frogs

A research team led by professor Masayuki Sumida at Hiroshima University’s Institute for Amphibian Biology has created a type of transparent frog whose internal organs are visible through its skin. The researchers say the see-through frogs can help in the study of diseases and in the development of medical treatments by allowing laboratory scientists to check the status of internal organs and blood vessels while the frogs are alive and without having to dissect them.

Science!

184 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:20:38pm

re: #174 American Jewess In Jerusalem

OMG OMG OMG! My husband just sent me this: Germany encouraging pedophilia and child sexual abuse under the guise of creating a "healthy" sexuality in children! You never saw something so disgusting. This is being promoted by the state, as far as the article goes.

[Link: www.lifesite.net...]

I can't bring myself to click on that link.

The result of decades of teaching moral relativism. And of course Stan.

I wish calamity on these perpetrators of child abuse.

185 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:22:05pm

Car Bomb At The Iranian Embassy In Basra

The Iranian Consular in Basra said on Saturday that the blast that took place next to the Iranian Consulate earlier on the day left no casualties among the Iranian diplomats.

“A car bomb detonated near the Iranian Consulate in al-Bradhiyah neighborhood, on Saturday afternoon,” Consular Mohammed Ridha Bagh told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI) by telephone.

The consular added “the attack occurred in four successive blasts but left no losses among the Consulate staff.

Earlier on Saturday, an eyewitness told VOI that a car bomb exploded near the front of the Iranian Consulate in Basra.

Other unmentioned casualties are insignificant I guess, or maybe a little telling.

186 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:22:47pm

From the Rasmussen poll cited in the earlier link:

Immigration remains a hot topic nationally but is especially important in states like California. Forty-four percent (44%) of California voters favor an increase in workplace raids to find and deport illegal aliens. Thirty-six percent (36%) are opposed and 20% are not sure.

Only 20% believe the workplace raids should be stopped while 62% are opposed.

Fifty-seven percent (57%) of California voters favor strict government sanctions on employers who hire illegal immigrants. Twenty-nine percent (29%) are opposed.

Nationally, 79% of American adults favor a proposal requiring employers to fire workers who falsify identity documents. Another survey found that 58% of voters nationwide favor cutting off federal funds for “sanctuary cities” that offer protection to illegal immigrants.

Clinton is viewed favorably by 54% of California voters and unfavorably by 45%.

Giuliani is viewed favorably by 59%, Thompson by 52%, McCain by 52%, and Romney by 39%.

187 stevieray  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:22:48pm

re: #184 mama winger

re: #174 American Jewess In Jerusalem

OMG OMG OMG! My husband just sent me this: Germany encouraging pedophilia and child sexual abuse under the guise of creating a "healthy" sexuality in children! You never saw something so disgusting. This is being promoted by the state, as far as the article goes.

[Link: www.lifesite.net...]

I can't bring myself to click on that link.

The result of decades of teaching moral relativism. And of course Stan.

I wish calamity on these perpetrators of child abuse.

Cultural marxism. The long march through the institutions of the West continues.

188 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:23:05pm

re: #177 mama winger

re: #172 albusteve

Anybody wishing to avoid Armegeddon rising waters due to Global WAAArming is welcome at my house in Wisconsin. Y'all come.


thanks for the hospitality...I'm checking out snorkle and fin packages this week...Im taking surfing lessons as well...I'll be ready...I'll bring the red stripe

189 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:23:32pm

As of this moment, I've decided that Europe can only be improved by an Islamic takeover. I shall no longer fret for them. Good people of Europe: Get out! Go to America, Australia, or come to Israel. Your ship is sinking.

190 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:23:52pm

re: #173 FishFearMe

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day...teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day. play with his fly all day.

:P

191 Lakedog66  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:24:49pm

I've never gotten a job from a poor man...but I have been robbed by a stupid one.

192 zygazint  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:24:58pm

re: #174 American Jewess In Jerusalem

The authors rationalize, "The child touches all parts of their father's body, sometimes arousing him. The father should do the same."

wtF?

193 FishFearMe  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:25:11pm

re: #190 Miss Trixie

LMAO!

194 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:25:26pm

re: #189 American Jewess In Jerusalem

This stuff makes the GDR seem like paradise. I know alot of people from the former East Germany who hate the west and have immigrated elswehere.

195 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:25:27pm

re: #186 Thanos

Wow. A Rudy win in California would be huge! I think he has a lot of appeal to swing states, it could really change the map.

196 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:25:40pm

re: #183 Killgore Trout

null
If those frogs came from ground zero there that means we invented them

197 J.D.  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:25:49pm

re: #165 Miss Trixie

re: #162 J.D.

re: #142 m


re: #134 J.D.! Good to see you! We were worried aboutcha!


That is so nice!
It's been a rough 6 months but I'm still hanging in there!
I have a shoulder, etc. problem that's kept me from posting, not to mention being whacked out on prescription drugs [not to be confused with the other kind, of course], so I have found posting to be challenging, to say the least, as is apparent above...That said, you simply can't keep a good woman down, as you well know.
:-)


I missed all y'all!

Glad you're back, toots.


Thanks.
Good to see you, too, Miss Trixie.


re: #169 MandyManners

re: #162 J.D.

Remember the "throwing plates" sound in the Lounge?


I still miss doing that.

How ya been?

re: #171 mama winger

re: #162 J.D.

{J.D.}

Good to see you, friend.

Hey {mama winger}. It's good seeing you, too.

*sniff*
I'm touched, you all. You're all so nice. That's what I've missed about this place as much as anything, really. Thanks all y'all.
:-D

198 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:26:04pm

'The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made.'


Groucho Marx

199 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:26:53pm

re: #195 Killgore Trout

re: #186 Thanos

Wow. A Rudy win in California would be huge! I think he has a lot of appeal to swing states, it could really change the map.

Yes and Guiliani's favorable rating is higher than Hillary's.

200 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:27:02pm

re: #192 zygazint

re: #174 American Jewess In Jerusalem

The authors rationalize, "The child touches all parts of their father's body, sometimes arousing him. The father should do the same."

wtF?

this person ought to be in prison

201 grayp  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:27:24pm

re: #160 JammieWearingFool

Ah! Globular worming! My favorite subject! Did you all see that there was a bug in the software James Hansen - he of the NASA Al Gore acolytes produced and they had to revise the warmest year back to the 1920s.

Well, back in the 1970s, his computer models were predicting - wait for it - an ice age. I kid you not.

NASA scientist James E. Hansen, who has publicly criticized the Bush administration for dragging its feet on climate change and labeled skeptics of man-made global warming as distracting "court jesters," appears in a 1971 Washington Post article that warns of an impending ice age within 50 years.

"U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming," blares the headline of the July 9, 1971, article, which cautions readers that the world "could be as little as 50 or 60 years away from a disastrous new ice age, a leading atmospheric scientist predicts."

Cold yet?

202 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:27:47pm

re: #193 FishFearMe

re: #190 Miss Trixie

LMAO!

Thankyouvverymuch - I'm here alll weekend. :D

Have you ever fished for Rainbow trout in the Rockies? Nothing like it, I tell you what.

203 FishFearMe  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:27:59pm

My ex-wife told once that if I went fishin' just ONE more time that she was gonna leave me. Damn, I miss that woman.

204 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:29:00pm

re: #180 JammieWearingFool

re: #172 albusteve


re: #160 JammieWearingFool

Good news:

Global Warming to Wash Away U.S. History


Rising waters will lap at the foundations of old money Wall Street and the new money towers of Silicon Valley. They will swamp the locations of big city airports and major interstate highways.

selective armageddon...I like it!...

Better hustle down to South Beach while it's still there.

re: #180 JammieWearingFool

re: #172 albusteve


re: #160 JammieWearingFool

Good news:

Global Warming to Wash Away U.S. History


Rising waters will lap at the foundations of old money Wall Street and the new money towers of Silicon Valley. They will swamp the locations of big city airports and major interstate highways.

selective armageddon...I like it!...

Better hustle down to South Beach while it's still there.


somehow Aquaman will save us in the clutch...

205 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:29:30pm

re: #195 Killgore Trout

re: #186 Thanos

Wow. A Rudy win in California would be huge! I think he has a lot of appeal to swing states, it could really change the map.


This Kos Kid has declared the election over.

What I do hope is that she picks (and she should be smart enough to) the very electric Barack Obama as her running mate.

Besides, I really want to see and hear the reactions from the right-wing noise machine shit themselves into oblivion when President Hillary Clinton and Vice President Barack Obama are sworn into office on January 20, 2009. That would be sweet justice.

206 zygazint  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:30:02pm

re: #200 mama winger

Depraved beyond belief...I don't even want to understand why...

207 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:30:07pm

{grayp} Afternoon, missy. :D

Hansen's an a**hat.

208 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:30:19pm

re: #189 American Jewess In Jerusalem

As of this moment, I've decided that Europe can only be improved by an Islamic takeover. I shall no longer fret for them. Good people of Europe: Get out! Go to America, Australia, or come to Israel. Your ship is sinking.

Europe has abondoned its heritage of religion and reason. It now merely used the artifacts of its heritage as a tourist attraction. To the general European population, the only right and wrong is what is expedient, and what is most comfortable. It has no love for children, in fact the Europeans are not even having children. They are involved in self-worship, and will sacrifice the innocent on the alter of hedonism. There is no bravery, or honor, or moral courage.

Screw 'em.

209 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:30:52pm

re: #170 kcladderman

re: #86 Nevergiveup


re: #85 Geepers

It ain't braggin' if you can do it.
~ Dizzy Dean

I guarantee it!
Joe Namath

i WANNA GIVE YOU A KISH.
Joe Namath when drunk

Come on, Sandy baby, loosen up. You're too uptight.
Drunk John Riggins.

210 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:31:12pm

re: #201 grayp

re: #160 JammieWearingFool

Ah! Globular worming! My favorite subject! Did you all see that there was a bug in the software James Hansen - he of the NASA Al Gore acolytes produced and they had to revise the warmest year back to the 1920s.

Well, back in the 1970s, his computer models were predicting - wait for it - an ice age. I kid you not.

NASA scientist James E. Hansen, who has publicly criticized the Bush administration for dragging its feet on climate change and labeled skeptics of man-made global warming as distracting "court jesters," appears in a 1971 Washington Post article that warns of an impending ice age within 50 years.

"U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming," blares the headline of the July 9, 1971, article, which cautions readers that the world "could be as little as 50 or 60 years away from a disastrous new ice age, a leading atmospheric scientist predicts."

Cold yet?

I don't think he's one of the "leading scientists" they're relying on any longer.

211 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:31:43pm

re: #205 JammieWearingFool

Heh. They just can't see that they've driven their party so far to the left that there are plenty of opportunities as long a the Reublicans run toward the middle.

212 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:31:48pm

re: #180 JammieWearingFool

re: #172 albusteve
re: #160 JammieWearingFool
Good news:

Global Warming to Wash Away U.S. History

Rising waters will lap at the foundations of old money Wall Street and the new money towers of Silicon Valley. They will swamp the locations of big city airports and major interstate highways.
selective armageddon...I like it!...
Better hustle down to South Beach while it's still there.

It's amazing what the AGW cult's "worst case scenario" of a 59-centimeter sea-level rise will do... Ummm, that a whopping TWO FEET, people.

:^þ

213 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:31:53pm

re: #198 mama winger

'The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made.'


Groucho Marx

I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member!
Groucho Marx

214 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:32:52pm

One day a rather inebriated ice fisherman drilled a hole in the ice and peered into the hole and a loud voice said, "There are no fish down there."

He walked several yards away and drilled another hole and peered into the hole and again the voice said, "There's no fish down there."

He then walked about 50 yards away and drilled another hole and again the voice said, "There's no fish down there."

He looked up into the sky and asked, "God, is that you?"

"No, you idiot," the voice said, "it's the rink manager."

215 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:32:55pm

re: #208 mama winger

I am speaking of the general atmosphere of Europe, not individuals. I know of many people who do not fit this mold. For instance, some of the soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. And of course people like Fjordman.

But we need 100 times more then those few.

216 Shr_Nfr  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:33:29pm

re: #22 MandyManners

Sorry. they are too intelligent not to return a defective product.

217 RightOfAtilla  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:33:31pm

re: #209 MandyManners

re: #170 kcladderman


re: #86 Nevergiveup

re: #85 Geepers

It ain't braggin' if you can do it.
~ Dizzy Dean

I guarantee it!
Joe Namath

i WANNA GIVE YOU A KISH.
Joe Namath when drunk

Come on, Sandy baby, loosen up. You're too uptight.
Drunk John Riggins.

...Drunk John Riggins to Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor...

218 jcm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:34:07pm

re: #201 grayp

I posted (click my nic) on the temperature measurement problems. We don't even have a reliable baseline temperature readings.

219 FishFearMe  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:34:08pm

Honest, ociffer, I'm not as drunk as some thinkle peep.

Drunk FishFearMe

220 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:34:23pm

Checking out a bit, the lawn police are about to come get me.

221 Opinionated  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:34:40pm

To anyone reading this who is a member of Freerepublic:

As repulsive as I believe Freerepublic has become of late, particularly in its defamatory attacks on Giuliani, anyone remaining there possessed of any decency should demand that a post coupling Giuliani with Hitler should immediately be removed.

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

That it as stayed up for as long as it has, is evidence that the crazy minority segment of Republicans and Conservatives is no different then the crazies on the Left who defamed General Petraeus.

Has intellectual honesty, a sense of history- not to mention plain common decency- totally vanished from our politics? From both sides?

222 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:34:52pm

re: #174 American Jewess In Jerusalem

OMG OMG OMG! My husband just sent me this: Germany encouraging pedophilia and child sexual abuse under the guise of creating a "healthy" sexuality in children! You never saw something so disgusting. This is being promoted by the state, as far as the article goes.

[Link: www.lifesite.net...]

For ages 4-6, the booklet recommends teaching children the movements of copulation.

Good gravy. That is beyond sick.

223 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:34:56pm

re: #217 RightOfAtilla

re: #209 MandyManners

re: #170 kcladderman


re: #86 Nevergiveup


re: #85 Geepers

It ain't braggin' if you can do it.
~ Dizzy Dean


I guarantee it!
Joe Namath


i WANNA GIVE YOU A KISH.
Joe Namath when drunk


Come on, Sandy baby, loosen up. You're too uptight.
Drunk John Riggins.

...Drunk John Riggins to Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor...

I never knew Riggins was so observant

224 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:35:49pm

An old man rocking on his porch sees a young kid with his fishing pole walking down the dirt road. "Where you goin' with that pole?" he calls. "Gonna git me some fish with this here fishing pole!" answers the kid. Sure enough, as the sun is setting the old man sees the kid going home with a bucket of fish.

Next day, old man rocking on his porch sees the kid walking down the dirt road with some duct tape. "Where you goin' with that?" he calls. "Gonna git me some ducks with this here tape!" answers the kid. "You can't git no ducks with tape!" hollers the old man. But sure enough, as the sun is setting the old man sees the kid going home with the tape strung out behind him and ducks stuck all over it!

Next day, old man rocking on his porch sees the kid walking down the dirt road with some chicken wire. "Where you going with that?" he calls. "Gonna get me some chickens with this wire!" answers the kid. "You can't get no chickens with wire!" hollers the old man. But sure enough, as the sun is setting the old man sees the kid going home with the wire strung out behind him and chickens stuck all through it!

Next day, old man rocking on his porch sees the kid walking down the dirt road with some pussy willows. "Now hold on just a minute" calls the old man, "wait while I get my hat!"

225 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:35:50pm

re: #217 RightOfAtilla

I still remember the uproar.

226 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:36:29pm

re: #213 Nevergiveup

'Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others.'

- Groucho Marx

227 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:36:36pm

re: #212 Spiny Norman

re: #180 JammieWearingFool

re: #172 albusteve
re: #160 JammieWearingFool
Good news:
Global Warming to Wash Away U.S. History
Rising waters will lap at the foundations of old money Wall Street and the new money towers of Silicon Valley. They will swamp the locations of big city airports and major interstate highways.
selective armageddon...I like it!...
Better hustle down to South Beach while it's still there.

It's amazing what the AGW cult's "worst case scenario" of a 59-centimeter sea-level rise will do... Ummm, that a whopping TWO FEET, people.

:^þ


thanks...I can handle it bro...if it's got a mongo curl it will get me at least to Tulsa...

228 kendig  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:37:06pm

Re: 128
Thanks Mandy for the update: #146

229 zygazint  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:38:39pm

"I've had a wonderful time, but this wasn't it."
- Groucho Marx (1895-1977)

230 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:39:32pm

re: #224 Miss Trixie

But, was it of the hippy variety?

231 missouri boy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:39:53pm

"I can tell you , how fast we traveled...we left Spokane with 2 rabbits and when we got to Topeka...we still had 2 rabbits"

BOB HOPE

232 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:40:00pm

re: #229 zygazint

"I've had a wonderful time, but this wasn't it."
- Groucho Marx (1895-1977)


Groucho was the man

233 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:40:34pm

re: #228 kendig

Aggravating, isn't it?

234 RightOfAtilla  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:41:01pm

re: #223 Nevergiveup

re: #217 RightOfAtilla


re: #209 MandyManners

re: #170 kcladderman

re: #86 Nevergiveup

re: #85 Geepers

It ain't braggin' if you can do it.
~ Dizzy Dean

I guarantee it!
Joe Namath

i WANNA GIVE YOU A KISH.
Joe Namath when drunk

Come on, Sandy baby, loosen up. You're too uptight.
Drunk John Riggins.

...Drunk John Riggins to Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor...

I never knew Riggins was so observant

And he was the quintessential load running the counter play.

235 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:41:24pm

re: #222 MandyManners

re: #174 American Jewess In Jerusalem

OMG OMG OMG! My husband just sent me this: Germany encouraging pedophilia and child sexual abuse under the guise of creating a "healthy" sexuality in children! You never saw something so disgusting. This is being promoted by the state, as far as the article goes.

[Link: www.lifesite.net...]

For ages 4-6, the booklet recommends teaching children the movements of copulation.

Good gravy. That is beyond sick.

I clicked on the link. I wish I had not. the words there are sick and perverse and BEING TAUGHT TO PARENTS AND CHILDREN.

If I were there in Germany, I do believe I would be considering some violent act.
Little Children are meant to be protected, not used as sexual beings

236 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:41:44pm

The global warming item got picked up over here. The hysterics will be all over this one.

Though they'll no doubt be gleeful to know the Bush compound in Kennebunkport will be submerged with the rest of us.

237 zygazint  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:41:56pm

re: #221 Opinionated

Has intellectual honesty, a sense of history- not to mention plain common decency- totally vanished from our politics? From both sides?

That is the question of the century, imo. Well I'm off good afternoon to all.

238 meMarc  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:41:59pm

From Bill Maher’s bio at Huffington Post:

“Some of the outstanding guests who have appeared on the show include George Clooney, Howard Dean, Michael Moore, Robin Williams, Drew Barrymore, Bradley Whitford, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Gen. Wesley Clark, Susan Sarandon, Kevin Costner, Gary Hart, Pat Buchanan, Ben Affleck, John Edwards and George Carlin.”

That’s what you call diversity. Every political persuasion from the left to the far left.

239 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:42:11pm

Mandy that's hysterical - thanks!

240 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:44:34pm

re: #235 mama winger

Evil.

241 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:44:57pm

re: #221 Opinionated

To anyone reading this who is a member of Freerepublic:

As repulsive as I believe Freerepublic has become of late, particularly in its defamatory attacks on Giuliani, anyone remaining there possessed of any decency should demand that a post coupling Giuliani with Hitler should immediately be removed.

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

That it as stayed up for as long as it has, is evidence that the crazy minority segment of Republicans and Conservatives is no different then the crazies on the Left who defamed General Petraeus.

Has intellectual honesty, a sense of history- not to mention plain common decency- totally vanished from our politics? From both sides?

This is eggs f-in actly what Republicans do not need this election. A bunch of sour assed one-issue purists driving people away from the polls. They are trying to create "RDS".

242 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:45:30pm

re: #239 Miss Trixie

I got it from another Lizard.

243 missouri boy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:45:41pm

re: #234 RightOfAtilla

Being a Missouri fan...I swear that John Riggins played for Kansas 7 years...lol! He killed MU ...couldn't stop him

244 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:46:43pm

re: #240 MandyManners

re: #235 mama winger

Evil.

'It would be better if a giant stone were to be tied around their necks and they were thrown into the sea, than to harm one of these little ones'

- paraphrase of Jesus the Nazarene ( as long as we are doing quotes)

245 grayp  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:47:03pm

re: #218 jcm

Thanks. I keep a folder on global warming crap.

Hello Miss Trixie! I have to get you my write up on the Peruvian chef who showed me how to make ceviche, don't I?

Re: Groucho Marx. I don't know how many people here are old enough to have seen his television show. I am. It was great. But CBS kicked him off - because of one of the greatest one liners ever.

A married couple were his contestants. As usual he asked them a bit about themselves.

Groucho: "So, do you have any children?"

Husband: "Yes we do. We have eleven children."

Groucho: "Eleven children?! Why do you have so many children?"

Husband: "Well, I love my wife."

Groucho: " I love my cigar, but I take it out every once in awhile."

Canned. Immediately.

246 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:47:38pm

Fishing bloopers with Bill Dance...

Bending the trolling arm

Tree Snake

More with Bill Dance...

/personally, I had never heard of him until someone sent me an email. But he's f-u-n-n-y, imho!

247 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:48:15pm

re: #245 grayp

I remember his show. He was amazingly hilarious.

248 RightOfAtilla  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:50:23pm

re: #243 missouri boy

No doubt, I don't remember any team that stopped Riggins...

249 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:50:24pm

re: #241 Thanos

The right's Dkos.

250 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:51:23pm

re: #246 gettinby

He's a classic.

251 grayp  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:51:39pm

hey gettinby

Did you get that new gun yet?

252 imploder  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:52:15pm

re: #215 mama winger

re: #208 mama winger

I am speaking of the general atmosphere of Europe, not individuals. I know of many people who do not fit this mold. For instance, some of the soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. And of course people like Fjordman.

But we need 100 times more then those few.

I live in Southern Germany (Rhineland Pfalz) and I have made many great friends that are German, and I haven't met a deviant yet, as far as I can tell. Like America, the rural and small town Europeans are much more conservative than their city-dwelling brethren. They also play a card game called "Sheepshead" (a translation) that I fear I will never figure out.

Which one is trump again?

253 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:54:42pm
Groucho: " I love my cigar, but I take it out every once in awhile."

LMAO! LOLOLOL!

254 grayp  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:55:12pm

re: #252 imploder

I live in Southern Germany (Rhineland Pfalz) and I have made many great friends that are German,

Ah. You would be most welcome here

(I post there as 'Pamela')

255 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:56:46pm

re: #221 Opinionated

That it as stayed up for as long as it has, is evidence that the crazy minority segment of Republicans and Conservatives is no different then the crazies on the Left who defamed General Petraeus.

Has intellectual honesty, a sense of history- not to mention plain common decency- totally vanished from our politics? From both sides?

Short answer: yes.

Giuliani has been trashed on this forum as well, probably by some of the same people. A great many "social conservatives" would rather see this country suffer under an appeasenik socialist Shrillary Administration, as punishment for not electing their annointed True Conservative™ candidate, than vote for what they perceive as a "RINO". This is the reason an appalling idiot like Barbara Boxer is NEVER in any danger of losing re-election; the CA GOP will continue to nominate single-issue anti-abortion dullards for the forseable future.

256 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:57:23pm

re: #252 imploder

Like America, the rural and small town Europeans are much more conservative than their city-dwelling brethren.

Yes, I imagine that is true to a certain extent. But I know in Sweden, even in the little towns, they have almost totally abandoned the churches and left them behind as relics to a past they no longer deem of value. Even in the 70's, the churches were 90% empty. I can only imagine how it is now.

Just my observation - the areas of Europe where moral equivalence has led to debauchery and dhimmitude are the countries that have historically lived in freedom. The countries where they are taking a stand for right and wrong, and against islamic infiltration are the former Iron Curtain countries, where religion was clung to fiercely even in the face of severe persecution.

257 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:59:53pm

re: #251 grayp

hey gettinby

Did you get that new gun yet?

NO! Dammit!

It's been almost a month. Our wonderful gun dealer who feels bad that we are waiting so long said we could try somewhere else to buy it. We said we would wait. I hope it's worth the wait. If it's even close to the .380 PPK, it'll be worth it. :)

For anyone interested, my new "almost" purchase.

258 imploder  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:01:04pm

re: #256 mama winger

re: #252 imploder


Like America, the rural and small town Europeans are much more conservative than their city-dwelling brethren.

Yes, I imagine that is true to a certain extent. But I know in Sweden, even in the little towns, they have almost totally abandoned the churches and left them behind as relics to a past they no longer deem of value. Even in the 70's, the churches were 90% empty. I can only imagine how it is now.

Just my observation - the areas of Europe where moral equivalence has led to debauchery and dhimmitude are the countries that have historically lived in freedom. The countries where they are taking a stand for right and wrong, and against islamic infiltration are the former Iron Curtain countries, where religion was clung to fiercely even in the face of severe persecution.

There is something there in your comments about European religiosity. Their churches are in danger, but I find that where I live, which is predeominately catholic, the church breathes onward, but many do not go as you've noted.

It was even worse in Spain, where the church was basically killed because of its intermingling with Franco. Nationalism in Spain took the same route down the tube.

259 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:01:17pm

re: #257 gettinby

re: #251 grayp

hey gettinby

Did you get that new gun yet?

NO! Dammit!

It's been almost a month. Our wonderful gun dealer who feels bad that we are waiting so long said we could try somewhere else to buy it. We said we would wait. I hope it's worth the wait. If it's even close to the .380 PPK, it'll be worth it. :)

For anyone interested, my new "almost" purchase.

You are so lucky. My family has decided I am not to be trusted with my own firearm. I can only use my son's, and only when he is with me.

Damn. I shoulda never had kids.

260 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:02:32pm

re: #258 imploder

I think this is one reason Poland has been such a good friend to the US, and such a strong voice against islamofascism. Poland is most vigorously Catholic.

261 grayp  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:04:10pm

re: #257 gettinby

I don't know what state you live in, but if you go to the manufacturer's website they may be able to direct you to a dealer in your area.

262 grayp  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:05:37pm

re: #259 mama winger

My family has decided I am not to be trusted with my own firearm. I can only use my son's, and only when he is with me.

WHAT?

263 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:10:34pm

re: #262 grayp

re: #259 mama winger

My family has decided I am not to be trusted with my own firearm. I can only use my son's, and only when he is with me.

WHAT?

I'm on several medications that make me loopy.

At least, that is the excuse I have for being loopy. LOL

Plus, I shake.

264 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:11:11pm

Let's take a train ride in Mumbai

265 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:12:09pm

re: #259 mama winger

I can only use my son's, and only when he is with me.

So, take your son and go shootin' !

IMHO, it's meditative (focusing on ONE issue for a length of time), it's relaxing (only addressing the issue at hand), it relaxes the brain (grip, aim, focus, hold at half-breath, pull, and follow-thru).

It doesn't need to be a single-issue situation(self-defense), does it? It can be done, maybe, just for fun?

So, take your son and go shootin' !

LOL

/The self-defense issue, for me however, is a real one and one I don't wish to lose having my rights to have.

266 grayp  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:13:04pm

re: #263 mama winger

My husband and his sister also shake. It's called existential tremors. Genetic. Their mom had it.

267 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:13:30pm

re: #265 gettinby

Oh, we do! We go to the shooting range, and when we are up north we go shooting outdoors.

I love it.

268 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:15:33pm

re: #261 grayp

re: #257 gettinby

I don't know what state you live in, but if you go to the manufacturer's website they may be able to direct you to a dealer in your area.

Florida.

It's a new product for Walther, being distributed thru Smith&Wesson. I did the touchie-feelie at a recent gun show, and even then it was on a backorder situation.

I'm thinking I should have ordered the .40? But it's sooo light and small, the recoil may be more than I could handle.

I'll definitely keep you updated. It's such an exciting-looking-sounding product by Walther, imo!

269 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:16:41pm

re: #266 grayp

re: #263 mama winger

My husband and his sister also shake. It's called existential tremors. Genetic. Their mom had it.

Mr. GBy shakes a little, also. But he shoots really, really well.

We've been calling it "getting old." LOL

270 southernborn  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:16:55pm

re: #257 gettinby
I wish I could trust guns with clips.

271 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:18:20pm

re: #270 southernborn

re: #257 gettinby
I wish I could trust guns with clips.

And why don't you?

/as in magazines? ;)

272 southernborn  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:19:30pm

re: #255 Spiny Norman

Just so you know, I have become a Rudy supporter. I was for him before I was against him. now Im for him again. I dont think Fred can beat Hillary although the NRA is not impressed with Rudy's recent outreach.

273 southernborn  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:20:28pm

re: #271 gettinby

jam maybe it's just me. But I m sticking to my revolver

274 southernborn  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:21:34pm

re: #271 gettinby

ps that's a great gun you showed though.

275 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:27:01pm

re: #267 mama winger

re: #265 gettinby

Oh, we do! We go to the shooting range, and when we are up north we go shooting outdoors.

I love it.

OH! That's wonderful...

276 Piglet-U93  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:29:34pm

re: #184 mama winger

I read the article, it's disgusting. Islam should realy love the development of state sanctioned pedophila for everyone.

At the end of the article, an appropriate quote:

"When men cease to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing anything."
G.K. Chesterton

277 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:29:56pm

re: #272 southernborn

re: #274 southernborn

Rudy is definitely not my favorite when it comes to his position on the 2nd Amendment.

But, I will vote for Homer Simpsom before I would vote for ANY of the dems running!

Which semi-auto is jamming on you?

/I do love my Lady Smith .38 revolver, though, but I am more comfortable and accurate with a semi-auto. It's what the shooter likes which is the decision-clincher, imo.

278 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:32:51pm
279 Split Level Head  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:34:08pm

Never get angry at someone untill you walk a mile in his shoes. Then you will be far away and have his shoes!

280 grayp  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:45:31pm

re: #278 savage_nation

It's the prayer recited in schul (synagogue) at the beginning of Yom Kippor.

"In the tribunal of heaven and the tribunal of earth, by the permission of God—blessed be He—and by the permission of this holy congregation, we hold it lawful to pray with the transgressors."


Yom Kippor - The Day of Atonment - is when we ask forgiveness from those we have transgressed against.

281 Daisy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:45:43pm

"The common argument that crime is caused by poverty is a kind of slander on the poor."

In truth, it may be the opposite - as many posters have noted - poverty seems to be caused by crime .. crimes perpetrated in the main by "Liberals" (who care nothing for liberty) who hoist themselves to moral elitism on the backs of the poor (many of whom inexplicably keep voting for the damned pests stomping on their backs!).

282 grayp  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:47:17pm

re: #278 savage_nation


more

283 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:47:28pm
284 Mich-again  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:10:56pm

You know if the Dan Rather lawsuit against CBS ever sees a courtroom, then I'm betting Charles will be called to testify. Ha. Can't wait.

285 leepro  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:12:54pm

re: #143 Miss Trixie

%u266A %u266B %u266C Afternoon lizards! %u266A %u266B %u266C

How'd you DO that? Please, please, please tell us!

Can you do that with other symbols?

/omg! Looks like my "preview" is showing a clue to the answer. Not being a puter geek, still want to know... How can WE do that?

286 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:13:27pm

re: #282 grayp Hey grayp - a good Yom Kippur to you and yours! How are y'all doing?

287 Cactus  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:33:42pm

At State Dept., Blog Team Joins Muslim Debate
LINK

WASHINGTON — Walid Jawad was tired of all the chatter on Middle Eastern blogs and Internet forums in praise of gory attacks carried out by the “noble resistance” in Iraq.
So Mr. Jawad, one of two Arabic-speaking members of what the State Department called its Digital Outreach Team, posted his own question: Why was it that many in the Arab world quickly condemned civilian Palestinian deaths but were mute about the endless killing of women and children by suicide bombers in Iraq?

Among those who responded was a man named Radad, evidently a Sunni Muslim, who wrote that many of the dead in Iraq were just Shiites and describing them in derogatory terms. But others who answered Mr. Jawad said that they, too, wondered why only Palestinian dead were “martyrs.”

The discussion tacked back and forth for four days, one of many such conversations prompted by scores of postings the State Department has made on about 70 Web sites since it put its two Arab-American Web monitors to work last November.

There's more in the article.

289 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:10:00pm

re: #272 southernborn

re: #255 Spiny Norman

Just so you know, I have become a Rudy supporter. I was for him before I was against him. now Im for him again. I dont think Fred can beat Hillary although the NRA is not impressed with Rudy's recent outreach.

I'm not entirely thrilled with Rudy myself; my preferred candidate is Duncan Hunter, but I sure as hell will vote for whoever wins the nomination, because I believe any of the current GOP candidates would be an improvement over what we we're seeing now.

OTOH, as disappointed as I am with George W Bush, any of the Dem candidates would be far worse.

290 mjazzguitar  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:21:20pm
291 Del Dolemonte  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:51:21pm

Here's a new news source straight out of the 1960s...Porgy Tyrebiter lives!

Firesign Theatre founder Peter Bergman will be anchoring the news on the CBS all-news station KFWB in LA from 1 AM to 5 AM Pacific time (4 AM to 8 AM Eastern) this Sunday and Monday morning, and again Saturday and Sunday mornings for the next two weekends.

You can stream KFWB on their website at [Link: www.kfwb.com...]

292 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:35:44pm

#283 Savage Nation

More specifically, Kol Nidre is the opening ceremony for the Yom Kippur holy day, which begins after sundown the day before. In it, we are asking God to annul all our vows that we may make in the future year, so that we will not become sinners if we fail to honor them. We also ask for him to annul our vows from the past year. This is a way to "come clean" and be freed from any stupid promises we have made.

It is important to note that one is not absolved of any promise made to another human being! If you make promises to another, you must keep them. When we speak of vows, we are speaking of those we make with God throughout the year, for example, "God, if you will save my son from becoming a moonbat, I promise I will pray 10 times a day and give all my income to charity." :-)


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