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Our strategy has been to change the subject a bit so that we can get the issue of intelligent design, which really means the reality of God, before the academic world and into the schools.

Phillip E. Johnson, father of “intelligent design”

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1115 comments
1 Ben G. Hazi  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:03:56pm

Ahh, fresh thread smell!

2 Bob Dillon  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:06:32pm

Slicing a thin piece at at a time.

3 Killian Bundy  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:07:36pm

I see pork people.

/for generations to come

4 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:07:59pm

Oh sweet release valve of overnight pressure.

A fresh thread!

5 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:08:31pm

re: #3 Killian Bundy

I see pork people.

/for generations to come

I am telling you...

There will be political hell to pay for this on the Dems.

I hope. But it looks likely to me.

6 suboptimal  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:09:12pm

What porky beast is this, that slouches towards 1600 to be signed?

7 dapperdave  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:09:14pm

What we really need is some I.D. in our government, fat chance for 2 years.

8 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:09:14pm

weet dreams all!

9 Wishing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:10:13pm

re: #5 astronmr20

I am telling you...

There will be political hell to pay for this on the Dems.

I hope. But it looks likely to me.

In January people will still be saying, Hey, where is all that money and all those jobs that the Dems got back when? Has anyone seen a dime of it?

10 suboptimal  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:10:27pm

re: #7 dapperdave

What we really need is some I.D. in our government, fat chance for 2 years.

Only the cylons were intelligently designed.

/too much TV

11 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:10:43pm

Re-posting my comment for the Big Thread;

Just a thought...

So this "stimulus" package is about saving our economy and safeguarding our checkbooks, right?

Then why would it not have a provision in it for drilling? Now I'm all for renewable energy, and I think the government should support it. However, can you imagine what would happen to this country and it's economy if there was a flare-up in the Middle East?

We would be on our knees. Lying on the floor. If you think this recession is bad, get ready for mass strife all over the world with regard to energy if anything twitchy happens with regard to Iran/ israel/ Syria, Saudi, etc etc. Which all seem like very likely scenarios with O in power.

This bill should have "drill now" written all over it. Firstly, it would bring an immediate drop and enormous impact on oil and oil futures, making an almost instant change in people's "take home" pay from fuel prices, and would cushion us greatly in case of any shenanigans in the M.E.

Obama is making his own rope.

12 zeebeach  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:11:03pm

Insomnia. Woke up on the sofa with FoxNews on and realized the Dems have sold the country. Unfeakinbelievable!

13 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:11:06pm

re: #10 suboptimal

Only the cylons were intelligently designed.

/too much TV

I missed tonight's epi. Will Itunes it tomorrow.

14 dapperdave  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:11:25pm

The political machine of the ruling liberal Democrat party is oiled with the blood of the tax payers!

15 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:11:46pm

re: #14 dapperdave

The political machine of the ruling liberal Democrat party is oiled with the blood of the tax payers!

Quote of the Year.

16 Wishing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:11:53pm

re: #11 astronmr20

Re-posting my comment for the Big Thread;

Just a thought...

So this "stimulus" package is about saving our economy and safeguarding our checkbooks, right?

Then why would it not have a provision in it for drilling? Now I'm all for renewable energy, and I think the government should support it. However, can you imagine what would happen to this country and it's economy if there was a flare-up in the Middle East?

We would be on our knees. Lying on the floor. If you think this recession is bad, get ready for mass strife all over the world with regard to energy if anything twitchy happens with regard to Iran/ israel/ Syria, Saudi, etc etc. Which all seem like very likely scenarios with O in power.

This bill should have "drill now" written all over it. Firstly, it would bring an immediate drop and enormous impact on oil and oil futures, making an almost instant change in people's "take home" pay from fuel prices, and would cushion us greatly in case of any shenanigans in the M.E.

Obama is making his own rope.

Ahem, Obama is not about fossil fuels. Didnt Joe send you that memo?

17 x-wing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:12:16pm

Perfect timing. New thread, just put a new keg of beer on, lie is good.

18 zeebeach  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:13:09pm

#17, where are you? I'll be there in 10 minutes!

19 Wishing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:13:18pm

re: #17 x-wing

Perfect timing. New thread, just put a new keg of beer on, lie is good.

Ok I got the part about the new thread, and the part about the keg. Could u explain the part about the lie?
/it must be late

20 suboptimal  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:13:21pm

re: #13 astronmr20

I missed tonight's epi. Will Itunes it tomorrow.

Oh, yes, do. If you pay attention, there will be a moment when you say, if that happened, then what about him?

21 jcm  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:13:29pm

re: #17 x-wing

Perfect timing. New thread, just put a new keg of beer on, lie is good.

I'll give you an f for that comment.....
;-P

life

22 schnapp  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:13:54pm

Our strategy has been to change the subject a bit so that we can get the issue of intelligent design, which really means the reality of God, before the academic world and into the schools.

— Phillip E. Johnson, father of “intelligent design”

can't they do that in a place where it is ok to force religion on other people? like iran!

23 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:14:23pm

re: #16 Wishing

Ahem, Obama is not about fossil fuels. Didnt Joe send you that memo?

Well, we can see that from the greenie weenie AlGore Carbon Credit Scammers he appointed to his cabinet.

He honestly has a chance to gain some political capitol here by doing this.. but he can't even see past his own ego to recognize it.

Bullshit comes in many colors. In this case, "green." America will find out, after a war flares up in the middle east, that Green will destroy us with regards to not having drilled for our own oil.

24 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:14:59pm

re: #17 x-wing

Perfect timing. New thread, just put a new keg of beer on, lie is good.

You mean "life."

That's Obama's saying, dude.

25 Wishing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:15:16pm

re: #23 astronmr20

Well, we can see that from the greenie weenie AlGore Carbon Credit Scammers he appointed to his cabinet.

He honestly has a chance to gain some political capitol here by doing this.. but he can't even see past his own ego to recognize it.

Bullshit comes in many colors. In this case, "green." America will find out, after a war flares up in the middle east, that Green will destroy us with regards to not having drilled for our own oil.

Yep, I think that is part of the game plan.
no sarc

26 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:15:17pm

re: #17 x-wing

Perfect timing. New thread, just put a new keg of beer on, lie is good.

never mind the beer...more wall paper!

27 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:15:33pm

re: #20 suboptimal

Oh, yes, do. If you pay attention, there will be a moment when you say, if that happened, then what about him?

So... a plot hole, or a clue/ revelation?

28 x-wing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:16:03pm

re: #19 Wishing

Not late yet, just can't spell for shit. But wait till later. woo-boy.

/

29 Pietr  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:16:22pm

Iraqs' Sadr-ites now peacefull art lovers...I smells a rat:

militants turn to art

30 Wishing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:16:35pm

re: #28 x-wing

Not late yet, just can't spell for shit. But wait till later. woo-boy.

/

lol I meant late for ME, in that I couldn't for the life of me figure it out!

31 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:17:10pm

re: #30 Wishing

lol I meant late for ME, in that I couldn't for the life of me figure it out!

Wonder what they used for the red?

32 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:17:16pm

Is Phillip E. Johnson the architect?

33 suboptimal  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:17:22pm

re: #27 astronmr20

So... a plot hole, or a clue/ revelation?

That's just it, it could be a clue, or it could be yet another distraction. But it goes by pretty quick, so I'm leaning towards clue.

34 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:17:36pm

re: #29 Pietr

Iraqs' Sadr-ites now peacefull art lovers...I smells a rat:

militants turn to art

(Oops) replied to wrong comment)


Wonder what they used for the red?

35 gmsc  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:17:48pm

February 14:

Do you know what famous event happened in Chicago on Valentine's Day? That's right! The League of Women Voters was formed on this day in 1920!
;)

1803 - Chief Justice John Marshall declares that any act of U.S. Congress that conflicts with the Constitution is void.
1849 - In New York City, James Knox Polk becomes the first serving President of the United States to have his photograph taken.
1855 - Texas is linked by telegraph to the rest of the United States, with the completion of a connection between New Orleans and Marshall, Texas.
1859 - Oregon is admitted as the 33rd U.S. state.
1876 - Alexander Graham Bell applies for a patent for the telephone, as does Elisha Gray.
1899 - Voting machines are approved by the U.S. Congress for use in federal elections.
1903 - The United States Department of Commerce and Labor is established (later split into Department of Commerce and Department of Labor).
1912 - Arizona is admitted as the 48th U.S. state.
1918 - The Soviet Union adopts the Gregorian calendar (on 1 February according to the Julian calendar).
1920 - The League of Women Voters is founded in Chicago, Illinois.
1929 - St. Valentine's Day Massacre: Seven people, six of them gangster rivals of Al Capone's gang, are murdered in Chicago, Illinois.
1945 - President Franklin D. Roosevelt meets with King Ibn Saud of Saudi Arabia aboard the USS Quincy, officially starting the U.S.-Saudi diplomatic relationship.
1946 - The Bank of England is nationalized.
1966 - Australian currency is decimalised.
1989 - Iranian leader Ruhollah Khomeini issues a fatwa encouraging Muslims to kill the author of The Satanic Verses, Salman Rushdie.
1998 - Authorities in the United States announce that Eric Robert Rudolph is a suspect in an Alabama abortion clinic bombing.
2008 - Northern Illinois University shooting: a gunman opened fire in a lecture hall of the DeKalb County, Illinois university resulting in 24 casualties; 6 fatalities (including gunman) and 18 injured.

Happy Birthday wishes to:
Hugh Down (88 today)
Judd Gregg (62 today)
Teller, of Penn & Teller (61 today)
Meg Tilly (49 today)

It's also Scott McClellan's 41st birthday. Jimmy Hoffa, wherever he is, was born 94 years ago today.

36 jcm  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:17:50pm

My beer is gone and so am I.

The meaning of economic freedom is this: that the individual is in a position to choose the way in which he wants to integrate himself into the totality of society.

All people, however fanatical they may be in their zeal to disparage and to fight capitalism, implicitly pay homage to it by passionately clamoring for the products it turns out.
Ludwig Von Mises

37 Capitalistincharge  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:18:00pm

Reposting from last thread....Just got in from dinner out with Liberal, Obama supporting friends who are PISSED about the stimulus package. They vowed they would NOT vote in Wisconsin Democrats in 2010. Too bad the American Citizens weren't allowed enough time to defeat this. Is it possible for all citzens to organize and refuse to pay taxes effecting a CHANGE regarding this mess? I think the House, Senate and Administration underestimated the support for their BS. I

38 Killian Bundy  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:18:38pm

re: #11 astronmr20

So this "stimulus" package is about saving our economy and safeguarding our checkbooks, right?

Then why would it not have a provision in it for drilling?

Is that a rhetorical question? Why doesn't it spend a dime addressing the housing or banking "crises"?

/you know, the [expletive deleted] that's really stalling out our economy

39 x-wing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:18:43pm

re: #21 jcm

And upding for you, wishing and astronomer.

/spell check no helpy on that one.

40 Wishing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:19:02pm

re: #34 astronmr20

(Oops) replied to wrong comment)

Wonder what they used for the red?

Whew! I was really getting worried!

41 Pietr  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:19:40pm

re: #34 astronmr20

(Oops) replied to wrong comment)


Wonder what they used for the red?

Are you sure you want to know? Maybe we can get som one to sneak samples-and check for DNA.......:>O

42 x-wing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:19:45pm

re: #30 Wishing

lol I meant late for ME, in that I couldn't for the life of me figure it out!


At least you can spell it right ;>}

43 Emperor Norton  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:19:52pm

In San Francisco, we've suddenly started to see huge billboard advertising on the sides of many of the city's transit buses asking people to call a toll-free number to learn about Islam. (Normally, these spaces advertise radio stations, theme parks, and so forth.) In the photo on the home page here of the Islamic Center of North America, Bay Area Chapter, you can see a San Francisco city bus with an ad saying, "Islam. Submission to God" in huge letters.

44 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:19:55pm

re: #33 suboptimal

That's just it, it could be a clue, or it could be yet another distraction. But it goes by pretty quick, so I'm leaning towards clue.

It's been a very odd season. Of course they learned last season they had to "wrap it up," so major sea-changes are happening quickly. It's impossible for them to resolve all the gaps I think with only something like 8 epi's left.

Originally I was disappointed to learn of the cancellation, but two more seasons could have been tedious and soap-ish in retrospect.

45 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:19:57pm

Dammit. All of a sudden I'm drunk.

I blame pink freud. ;)

G'night, all.

46 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:20:07pm

re: #39 x-wing

And upding for you, wishing and astronomer.

/spell check no helpy on that one.

all right what smart ass put Saigon Tea in my beer!

47 incessant_din  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:20:22pm

Anybody else notice that the Dems all refer to POTUS as "Barack Obama" as opposed to "President Obama"? A friend pointed this out as the Speaker of the House was fawning over the President's herculean feat of getting the left side of the aisle to vote for wanton spending.

I think that it's a crutch to keep people from inadvertently using a "s" in Obama following the "s" in president. I think that it's a shrewd move. It's unfortunate that their names are that close, and they sure don't need more Chris Matthews out there filling the air with malapropisms.

48 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:20:33pm

re: #23 astronmr20

Bush only lifted the offshore drilling ban when oil reached record highs. Now that prices have dropped Obama is reconsidering. When prices rise people will start talking about it again. It really doesn't have anything to do with energy independence or the future of the country. It's about pandering for votes.

49 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:21:04pm

re: #38 Killian Bundy

Is that a rhetorical question? Why doesn't it spend a dime addressing the housing or banking "crises"?

/you know, the [expletive deleted] that's really stalling out our economy

...because we have him another 350 billion for that.

50 dapperdave  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:21:20pm

re: #29 Pietr

Art brings peace, isn't that nice? I know Art, he owes me five bucks and when I see him I'll give him some flashlight therapy.

51 suboptimal  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:21:26pm

re: #44 astronmr20

It's been a very odd season. Of course they learned last season they had to "wrap it up," so major sea-changes are happening quickly. It's impossible for them to resolve all the gaps I think with only something like 8 epi's left.

Originally I was disappointed to learn of the cancellation, but two more seasons could have been tedious and soap-ish in retrospect.

Yes, sir, nothing focuses your attention quite like a gun to the head.

52 Wishing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:22:40pm

re: #47 incessant_din

and they sure don't need more Chris Matthews out there filling the air with malapropisms.


Sure they do!

53 jcw46  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:23:12pm

A cautionary tale to ponder whilst commenting on this or any other site.

54 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:23:19pm

re: #43 Emperor Norton

Let them waste their money. Atheists and Christians are buying bus ads in London like crazy. Nobody converts because they see a billboard or a bus ad. It's just idiots wasting money. Wake me up when they start feeding the hungry or doing something useful with their money.

55 Killian Bundy  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:23:35pm

re: #49 astronmr20

...because we have him another 350 billion for that.

And what does that tell you?

/that we just flushed trillions of dollars over the next decade or so down the galaxy's largest toilet?

56 Pietr  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:25:19pm

re: #46 Dustyvet

all right what smart ass put Saigon Tea in my beer!

Not me-but I've got cold Miller High Life, if you need a fresh one....:>))

57 x-wing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:26:26pm

re: #46 Dustyvet

all right what smart ass put Saigon Tea in my beer!

Wasn't me. I was knocking the poison off my fresh keg. And I didn't see any Veitnamese sneaking around here ;>}

58 tackle  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:26:43pm

(Because I'm a dork and posted this on the dead thread downstairs...)

re: #1202 Pollster

I would guess (although I could be wrong) that Charles's apparent distaste for social conservatives have altered much of the direction of his articles. (Sadly, many social conservatives have deserved to be excluded. And happily, this blog has been excellent in severing ties to any fascist orgs.)
Sometimes I bristle when I see certain aspects of social conservatism being mocked and feel that we're fracturing ourselves in an effort to maintain what is seen as a pure set of ideals. However, I respect others opinions here and try and see their merit. I focus on our commonalities rather than our differences and learn some things on the way.
Question: does the label "creationist" as it is used on this board pertain to all those who believe God is behind the creation of the earth, or is this label only for those who wish to have this and other ID beliefs taught in schools?
Is it okay to be to be a "creationist" if one believes in keeping those beliefs strictly private? Shouldn't that label be qualified in a certain way? In other words, you could teach any dumb thing you wanted as long as you didn't compel anyone else to accept it.

59 blackpajamas  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:27:19pm

_____ 99 Dumb Baboons _____

Taxpayers torch, and sharp pitch fork
Beat up Baboons with extra pork
Then set them free by election
Once and for all, they'll be gone

Amid small print, lurks in the bill,
Tax code swells, "We'll screw 'em well"
Inflating budgets checks to kite
Ninety-nine dumb Baboons will sign

Ninety-nine dumb Baboons
Inflating market's stocks tonight
Panic lads, it's a red alert
The commune's here, so get to work!

The pork machine springs to life
Printing up fake bonds to buy
For mortgaging your children's lives
Ninety-nine dumb Baboons will vye

Ninety-nine Sinister Street
Ninety-nine Fat Gangsters meet
To worry, worry, super-scurry
Bail out the fools in a hurry

This is what we're waiting for
This is it boys, this is war
Spanked Blue asses hang out to dry
Ninety-nine dumb Baboons cry

Ten thousand knights of the air
Firing up the blog-o-sphere
Everyone's a super hero
Everyone's a Captain Kirk

With orders to identify, to clarify and classify
Spitting on the pork deep fried
As ninety-nine Baboons get fired
Ninety-nine dumb Baboons will cry

Ninety-nine bail-outs have failed
And every Baboon then gets jailed
When it's over and they're found guilty
All our wallets will be empty

Then we'll leave a souvenir
To prove free markets fought them here
Go earmark the dumb Baboons
And track them all as they run ...

(It's really 57 dumb baboons, and three traitors)

60 jcw46  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:27:36pm

re: #54 Killgore Trout
I know there are Christian charities. (maybe not the same ones buying the ads) Do atheists have any organized charities that they are directly associated with other than the generic secular charities?

(not snark, serious question brought about by your comment).

61 jcw46  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:29:09pm

re: #59 blackpajamas

I'd rather it was in German. Nein?

62 Killian Bundy  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:29:30pm

Heh, I forgot about this, FOX is reporting on Leon Panetta being confirmed as CIA Director. Apparently he had to promise not to interfere with day to day operations.

/my oh my, doesn't that inspire confidence?

63 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:29:40pm

The old Navy Chief finally retired and got that chicken ranch he always wanted. He took
with him his life-long pet parrot.

First morning at 0430, the parrot squawked loudly and said, “Reveille, Reveille. Up all
hands. Heave out and trice up. The smoking lamp is lighted, now Reveille.”

The old chief told the parrot, “We are no longer in the Navy. Go back to sleep.”

The next morning, the parrot did the same thing. Chief told the parrot, “If you keep this up, I'll put you out in the chicken pen.”

Again the parrot did it, and true to his word, the Chief put the parrot in the chicken pen.

About 0630 the next morning, the Chief was awakened by one heck of a ruckus in the chicken pen. He went out to see what was the matter. The parrot had about 40 white chickens at attention in formation, and on the ground laid 3 bruised and beaten brown chickens. The parrot was saying, “By God, when I say fall out in dress whites, I don't
mean Khakis!”

64 x-wing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:29:46pm

re: #46 Dustyvet

all right what smart ass put Saigon Tea in my beer!

O.K. duh x-wing. Sorry Joe, I have sister that go boom-boom long time ;>}

65 pink freud  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:31:25pm

re: #45 Noam Sayin'

Dammit. All of a sudden I'm drunk.

I blame pink freud. ;)

G'night, all.

'Nite Noam

;-)

Weet dreams

66 JHW  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:31:33pm

i guess I'll post another pic of one of those gorgeous Ethiopian ladies. Esti Mamo is an Israeli super-model of Falasha ethnicity.
A Model Israeli Citizen

67 x-wing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:32:08pm

re: #61 jcw46

I'd rather it was in German. Nein?


It does sound better in German, but then you gotta deal with Ninas' hairy armpits.

/bleck,

68 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:32:11pm

re: #53 jcw46

I LOVE Patterico!

69 jcw46  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:32:13pm

re: #62 Killian Bundy
Well we all knew these positions were all sinecures for political associates but jeesh at least they should seem to have some semblance of "administrating" the Department.

70 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:32:46pm

re: #64 x-wing

re: #46 Dustyvet

all right what smart ass put Saigon Tea in my beer!

O.K. duh x-wing. Sorry Joe, I have sister that go boom-boom long time ;>}

Another key board bites it...:)

71 gmsc  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:33:00pm

In honor of Valentine's Day, here's a video involving a wedding and the song "Good Lovin'":

72 Wishing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:33:18pm

re: #66 JHW

i guess I'll post another pic of one of those gorgeous Ethiopian ladies. Esti Mamo is an Israeli super-model of Falasha ethnicity.
A Model Israeli Citizen

Ethipian Jews are the most beautiful, stately, regal people on earth, bar none.

73 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:33:22pm

re: #43 Emperor Norton

In San Francisco, we've suddenly started to see huge billboard advertising on the sides of many of the city's transit buses asking people to call a toll-free number to learn about Islam. (Normally, these spaces advertise radio stations, theme parks, and so forth.) In the photo on the home page here of the Islamic Center of North America, Bay Area Chapter, you can see a San Francisco city bus with an ad saying, "Islam. Submission to God" in huge letters.

Your Majesty!

Yes, I've seen two of those now. I checked out the site. It's pretty gooey. Apparently we are the second ad campaign, the first one was on the NYC subways.

74 Wishing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:33:38pm

PIMF Ethiopian.

75 jcw46  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:34:21pm

re: #67 x-wing

It does sound better in German, but then you gotta deal with Ninas' hairy armpits.

/bleck,


Ugg, forgot about the Europits. THANK YOU for that image. :>

76 x-wing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:35:17pm

re: #66 JHW

i guess I'll post another pic of one of those gorgeous Ethiopian ladies. Esti Mamo is an Israeli super-model of Falasha ethnicity.
A Model Israeli Citizen

Dude, dude, do you have those pics from the other night? I meant to save them and didn't.

77 JHW  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:36:11pm

re: #76 x-wing

Just a minute, I'll find them in my history (Firefox).

78 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:36:48pm

re: #54 Killgore Trout

Let them waste their money. Atheists and Christians are buying bus ads in London like crazy. Nobody converts because they see a billboard or a bus ad. It's just idiots wasting money. Wake me up when they start feeding the hungry or doing something useful with their money.

I read some of their conversion stories on the site. Reminded me a lot of the ones in Watchtower, and some evangelical Christian material. I was alone, nothing made sense, then I read the Koran, it was so amazing, I totally got the point of my life...

Am I just totally lacking in the revelatory faith gene or something? I'm reasonably observant, but I just don't get this moment of totally getting it from scripture business.

79 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:37:12pm

Things You Wouldn't Know Without Movies

-It is always possible to park directly outside any building you are visiting.
-A detective can only solve a case once he has been suspended from duty.

-If you decide to start dancing in the street, everyone you bump into will know all the steps.

-Most laptop computers are powerful enough to override the communication systems of any invading alien civilization.

-It does not matter if you are heavily outnumbered in a fight involving martial arts - your enemies will wait patiently to attack you one by one by dancing around in a threatening manner until you have knocked out their predecessors.

-When a person is knocked unconscious by a blow to the head, they will never suffer a concussion or brain damage.

-No one involved in a car chase, hijacking, explosion, volcanic eruption or alien invasion will ever go into shock.

-Police Departments give their officers personality tests to make sure they are deliberately assigned a partner who is their total opposite.

-When they are alone, all foreigners prefer to speak English to each other.

-You can always find a chainsaw when you need one.

-Any lock can be picked by a credit card or a paper clip in seconds, unless it's the door to a burning building with a child trapped inside.

-An electric fence, powerful enough to kill a dinosaur will cause no lasting damage to an eight-year-old child.

-Television news bulletins usually contain a story that affects you personally at that precise moment you turn the television on.

80 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:38:40pm

re: #66 JHW

i guess I'll post another pic of one of those gorgeous Ethiopian ladies. Esti Mamo is an Israeli super-model of Falasha ethnicity.

Yes, please:

[Link: images.google.com...]

81 TheMatrix31  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:38:46pm

This song lyric seems oddly appropriate tonight...

"There must be some kinda way outta here, said the Joker to the Thief...."

82 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:39:12pm

The things you learn at the movies

During all police investigations it will be necessary to visit a strip club at least once.

All telephone numbers in America begin with the digits 555.

Most dogs are immortal.

If being chased through town, you can usually take cover in a passing St. Patrick's Day parade - at any time of the year.

All beds have special L-shaped cover sheets which reach up to the armpit level on a woman but only to waist level on the man lying beside her.

All grocery shopping bags contain at least one stick of French Bread.

It's easy for anyone to land a plane providing there is someone in the control tower to talk you down.

Once applied, lipstick will never rub off - even while scuba diving.

The ventilation system of any building is the perfect hiding place. No-one will ever think of looking for you in there and you can travel to any other part of the building you want without difficulty.

If you need to reload your gun, you will always have more ammunition -even if you haven't been carrying any before now.

You're very likely to survive any battle in any war unless you make the mistake of showing someone a picture of your sweetheart back home.

Should you wish to pass yourself off as a German officer, it will not be necessary to speak the language. Even a bad German accent will do.

If your town is threatened by an imminent natural disaster or killer beast, the mayor's first concern will be the tourist trade or his forthcoming art exhibition.

The Eiffel Tower can be seen from any window in Paris.

A man will show no pain while taking the most ferocious beating but will wince when a woman tries to clean his wounds.

If a large pane of glass is visible, someone will be thrown through it before long.

When paying for a taxi, don't look at your wallet as you take out a bill just grab one at random and hand it over. It will always be the exact fare.

83 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:39:16pm

re: #81 TheMatrix31

This song lyric seems oddly appropriate tonight...

"There must be some kinda way outta here, said the Joker to the Thief...."

Especially if you watch Battlestar Galactica.

84 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:39:18pm

re: #60 jcw46

Interesting question. I quick google turns up some results....
Secular Humanist Aid and Relief Efforts

..But few of them are overtly atheist. Most of them are secular orgaziations like Habitat for Humanity, etc.

An Interesting article here: Atheist Charity

It's not too surprising. Atheists aren't really an organized bunch who gather once a week and pass the plate to collect money. The infrastructure and fundraising just aren't there.

85 x-wing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:41:09pm

re: #75 jcw46

Ugg, forgot about the Europits. THANK YOU for that image. :>

Spent two years there. Mostly the older women went natural,heck was in this bar and the bar maid(40ish) had the hairiest pits I've ever seen, don't know what Ninas' beef was.

86 gmsc  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:41:23pm

re: #79 Dustyvet

-If you decide to start dancing in the street, everyone you bump into will know all the steps.

87 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:41:25pm

re: #66 JHW

i guess I'll post another pic of one of those gorgeous Ethiopian ladies. Esti Mamo is an Israeli super-model of Falasha ethnicity.
A Model Israeli Citizen

Oy, a sheyne maydl. As they don't say in Ethiopia. But what in God's name have they done to her hair?

88 Wishing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:42:22pm

Shlomo and Sheba made beautiful kids, is all I can say.

89 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:42:23pm

re: #72 Wishing

Ethipian Jews are the most beautiful, stately, regal people on earth, bar none.

Most Ethiopian girls aren't tall enough to do international supermodeling, though.

90 Wishing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:43:03pm

re: #89 SanFranciscoZionist

Most Ethiopian girls aren't tall enough to do international supermodeling, though.

They are still the most beautiful people on earth.

91 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:43:16pm

re: #87 SanFranciscoZionist

Oy, a sheyne maydl. As they don't say in Ethiopia. But what in God's name have they done to her hair?

I'm not too concerned about her hair. Are you?

92 Pietr  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:44:07pm

Yesterday, I got this as a Canadian saying it-today as a Texan-still funny......

One thing about TEXANS is that their hearts are always in the right place !

T. B. Bechtel, a part-time City Councilman from Midland, TX, was asked on a local live radio talk show, just what he thought of the allegations of torture of the Iraqi prisoners.


His reply prompted his ejection from the studio, but to thunderous applause from the audience.


HIS STATEMENT:

'If hooking up an Iraqi prisoner's nuts to a car's battery cables will save just one Texas GI's life, then I have just three things to say,'

'Red is positive, black is negative and make sure his nuts are wet.'

93 Wishing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:44:08pm

Gnite lizards, sleep well.
Cya around the bend.

94 gmsc  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:44:36pm

re: #79 Dustyvet

Things You Wouldn't Know Without Movies

re: #82 Dustyvet

The things you learn at the movies

Have you ever visited TV Tropes (Not just TV, but movies, books and more)?

If you like those, you'll go nuts at TV Tropes!

95 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:44:54pm

re: #90 Wishing

They are still the most beautiful people on earth.

No arguments.

96 JHW  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:47:12pm

re: #76 x-wing

Dude, dude, do you have those pics from the other night? I meant to save them and didn't.

3 most Beautiful Women in the World ?...All From Ethiopia

97 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:47:29pm

Well, I'm off to catch wednesday's Lost that I missed.


So long, lizards!

98 dapperdave  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:48:16pm

re: #92 Pietr

He's got my vote.

99 Bob Dillon  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:48:16pm

[Link: www.newseum.org...]

for news hounds.

The Newseum displays these daily newspaper front pages in their original, unedited form. Some front pages may contain material that is objectionable to some visitors. Viewer discretion is advised.

100 Afrocity  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:49:27pm

re: #82 Dustyvet

You forgot one...

If you are the only black person in a horror flick, you will surely die.

101 TheMatrix31  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:49:53pm

re: #83 astronmr20

Especially if you watch Battlestar Galactica.

Which I don't....heh.

102 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:50:20pm

re: #100 Afrocity

You forgot one...

If you are the only black person in a horror flick, you will surely die.

sorry...:(...sniff...moving to corner...

103 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:50:45pm

re: #100 Afrocity

You forgot one...

If you are the only black person in a horror flick, you will surely die.

So I'm sitting with a group of high school freshmen, in a darkened library, watching Baz Luhrman's "Romeo and Juliet". As Mercutio bleeds out his last on the beach, a resigned fourteen-year-old voice says out of the dark. "Yeah, the black guy always gets killed."

104 Bob Dillon  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:50:46pm

re: #63 Dustyvet

Drop your cocks and grab your socks.

Something like that.

105 Wishing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:51:14pm

re: #99 Bobibutu

[Link: www.newseum.org...]

for news hounds.

The Newseum displays these daily newspaper front pages in their original, unedited form. Some front pages may contain material that is objectionable to some visitors. Viewer discretion is advised.

Great link!
Now I really am going to bed!
Gnite!

106 gmsc  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:52:34pm

re: #100 Afrocity

You forgot one...

If you are the only black person in a horror flick, you will surely die.

That's just one of an unbelievable amount of race-related tropes out there.

107 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:52:40pm

re: #78 SanFranciscoZionist


Am I just totally lacking in the revelatory faith gene or something? I'm reasonably observant, but I just don't get this moment of totally getting it from scripture business.


For some people it's part of their personality. I've known people who read a book or see a movie and feel their lives have been transformed. I've always been unimpressed by religion and bored by scripture but this fall I took a nice long vacation and took a bunch of philosophy books; existentialists, stoics and zen. I'd always enjoyed the existentialists but found myself really impressed by the zen stuff. I'm still completely non-religious but I do zazen (sitting meditation) a few times a week and I use the techniques several time every day. It hasn't really transformed my life in a spiritual way but it has certainly has changed the way I deal with things. I'm still a committed atheist. Maybe you just haven't found the right thing.
I talked about it with my Mom (a life long Catholic) and now she's into Zen too. Very odd.

108 x-wing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:52:47pm

re: #93 Wishing

Gnite lizards, sleep well.
Cya around the bend.

Nite wishing, sleep tight.

109 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:53:42pm

re: #100 Afrocity

You forgot one...

If you are the only black person in a horror flick, you will surely die.

Afrocity, isn't it like two in the AM where you are?

110 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:54:15pm

Just came from a party where I confronted a guy wearing a Che t-shirt. I've know this guy casually for about ten years.

Here is a snippet of the conversation.

Me: So you're making a comparison between George Bush and Che Guevara?

Him: No, I'm not.

Me: You just said, "Let's draw a parallel between Bush and Che"

Him: Drawing a parallel is not making a comparison.

Me: Yes it is.

Him: No it's not.

Me: Of course it it.

Him: No it's not. Parallel lines don't meet.

( Later)

Me: So you're not concerned with what Che did. You wear the t-shirt because of his ideology.

Him: Yes.

At that point I end the conversation. I walk over to two guys. One I know and one I just met. They ask me what the heated conversation was about. I mention the Che t-shirt. Both seemed to think that revolution in general is a good idea. One threw out some old hippie bromide -- I forget which one. The other said in all seriousness, not sarcastically. "Ever since 9-11, extremists have gotten a bad name. It's weird. "

I left the party shortly after that.

Oh, the guy with the Che t-shirt is negotiating with a studio to direct his first feature film.

111 Bob Dillon  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:54:18pm

re: #108 x-wing

Nite wishing, sleep tight.

Gronk - nitety nite.

112 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:54:43pm

Palestinian virus warning

A new virus has been detected that you may want to take precautions against. Be careful, if you try to solve this virus problem, you will be castigated in the media and by the UN. This is the Palestinian Virus - a virus that settles in your PC, claims it was there before your PC was built or Bill Gates was born, then demands parts of your hard drive.

If you want the virus to leave you and your PC alone, you can try to give the virus the hard drive space it wants, but it will refuse the deal and start killing data on your computer.

Some people have suggested a solution for this virus problem is to give the virus its own PC. As stated above, this virus has been known to refuse the offer. Other nearby PCs wont take the virus either, even if the virus is compatible with the other computers. The virus seams to want nothing less than to take over your entire computer and with the removal and destruction of all your data.

Software based anti-virus solutions have been proposed, but so far only hardware solutions have had any impact. The only solution we have been able to determine that may work is physical removal of the virus from your computer. The only problem with this solution is all the other computers will object.

113 Pietr  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:54:43pm

re: #100 Afrocity

re: #102 Dustyvet

Ah, Ya hurt Dustys' Feelers-that's OK, Dusty. Sci Fi has those little tips at commercial time, "If all the animals are running past you in one direction-follow them quickly".......Cheers.

114 Cygnus  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:55:12pm

re: #43 Emperor Norton

In San Francisco, we've suddenly started to see huge billboard advertising on the sides of many of the city's transit buses asking people to call a toll-free number to learn about Islam. (Normally, these spaces advertise radio stations, theme parks, and so forth.) In the photo on the home page here of the Islamic Center of North America, Bay Area Chapter, you can see a San Francisco city bus with an ad saying, "Islam. Submission to God" in huge letters.

(Self-deleted). Gag.

115 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:55:59pm

re: #109 SanFranciscoZionist

Afrocity, isn't it like two in the AM where you are?

"Chicago, Chicago..."...

116 x-wing  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:57:10pm

re: #96 JHW

3 most Beautiful Women in the World ?...All From Ethiopia

That's it, Thank You. These women are all that, WOW.

I want to show these to my friends. I guess all the Ethiopian jokes have them stereo typed as starving pot bellied people.

Boy is that soooo wrooong.

117 Bob Dillon  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:58:30pm

re: #110 HelloDare

Talking with an idiot and challenging him is a waste of time.

Move on to fertile pastures.

118 Afrocity  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:59:27pm

re: #109 SanFranciscoZionist

Afrocity, isn't it like two in the AM where you are?

Umm, do you have to be so obvious about pointing out how pathetic and sexless my life is?

119 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:59:53pm

Yesterday,

All those backups seemed a waste of pay.
Now my database has gone away.
Oh I believe in yesterday.
Suddenly,
There's not half the files there used to be,
And there's a milestone hanging over me
The system crashed so suddenly.
I pushed something wrong
What it was I could not say.
Now all my data's gone
And I long for yesterday-ay-ay-ay.
Yesterday,
The need for back-ups seemed so far away.
I knew my data was all here to stay,
Now I believe in yesterday.

120 Kragar  Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:59:54pm

re: #100 Afrocity

You forgot one...

If you are the only black person in a horror flick, you will surely die.

When a serial killer is picking people off one by one, the group will always decide to split up to improve their chances

121 Cygnus  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:00:56am

re: #82 Dustyvet

The things you learn at the movies

During all police investigations it will be necessary to visit a strip club at least once.

All telephone numbers in America begin with the digits 555.

Most dogs are immortal.

If being chased through town, you can usually take cover in a passing St. Patrick's Day parade - at any time of the year.

All beds have special L-shaped cover sheets which reach up to the armpit level on a woman but only to waist level on the man lying beside her.

All grocery shopping bags contain at least one stick of French Bread.

It's easy for anyone to land a plane providing there is someone in the control tower to talk you down.

Once applied, lipstick will never rub off - even while scuba diving.

The ventilation system of any building is the perfect hiding place. No-one will ever think of looking for you in there and you can travel to any other part of the building you want without difficulty.

If you need to reload your gun, you will always have more ammunition -even if you haven't been carrying any before now.

You're very likely to survive any battle in any war unless you make the mistake of showing someone a picture of your sweetheart back home.

Should you wish to pass yourself off as a German officer, it will not be necessary to speak the language. Even a bad German accent will do.

If your town is threatened by an imminent natural disaster or killer beast, the mayor's first concern will be the tourist trade or his forthcoming art exhibition.

The Eiffel Tower can be seen from any window in Paris.

A man will show no pain while taking the most ferocious beating but will wince when a woman tries to clean his wounds.

If a large pane of glass is visible, someone will be thrown through it before long.

When paying for a taxi, don't look at your wallet as you take out a bill just grab one at random and hand it over. It will always be the exact fare.

The Space Needle can be seen from any window in Seattle.

122 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:00:58am

re: #116 x-wing

That's it, Thank You. These women are all that, WOW.

I want to show these to my friends. I guess all the Ethiopian jokes have them stereo typed as starving pot bellied people.

Boy is that soooo wrooong.

I used to teach at a school where one of my students was Ethiopian, the youngest of about five girls who'd gone there are one point or another. At graduation, everyone showed up, sisters, cousins, aunts. All the girls are lanky and gorgeous, and like the height of fashion. At some point I turned to another teacher and said "What is this, outtakes from America's Next Top Model?" as a mob of beautiful gazelle-like girls in jeans and high-heeled boots clattered by.

123 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:01:52am

re: #118 Afrocity

Umm, do you have to be so obvious about pointing out how pathetic and sexless my life is?

Oh dear. I do apologize. I have to work in the AM, so I was just telling myself to go to sleep...

124 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:02:31am

re: #116 x-wing

Ayaan Hrsi Ali is from Somalia. They are some good looking people in that part of the world.

125 NoelArmourson  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:03:32am

re: #100 Afrocity

You forgot one...

If you are the only black person in a horror flick, you will surely die.

The pretty girl in the skimpy clothing will always scream in horror and walk backwards into the monster's reach.

126 Shr_Nfr  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:04:10am

re: #79 Dustyvet

"Any lock can be picked by a credit card or a paper clip in seconds, unless it's the door to a burning building with a child trapped inside." If you are fairly good with it, you can indeed hack most standard locks using 2 paperclips. One you use as your spring, and the other you use as your rake. Takes practice, but its possible. Alternatively, if you have some paper clips, some rubber bands and and some wood, you can make a pickgun. I do steel bolt hacking as a hobby. Most locks are pathetic.

127 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:04:18am

re: #116 x-wing

That's it, Thank You. These women are all that, WOW.

I want to show these to my friends. I guess all the Ethiopian jokes have them stereo typed as starving pot bellied people.

Boy is that soooo wrooong.

..except if your a supermodel. There is extreme poverty going on in Ethiopia. That is where my niece is from.

128 Cygnus  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:04:26am

re: #125 NoelArmourson

The pretty girl in the skimpy clothing will always scream in horror and walk backwards into the monster's reach.

And if she tries to run away from the monster, she will always stumble and fall.

129 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:04:48am

re: #124 Killgore Trout

Kenyans too.

130 Pietr  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:04:51am

re: #118 Afrocity

I thought that GOP thong took care of everything? Call Maintenance-let's get this thing fixed.....as an electronic maintenance tech type, I'd volunteer, but the missus would object....:>))

131 dapperdave  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:05:16am

re: #118 Afrocity

IMO sex is over rated and as far as pathetic, that depends on what you define pathetic as.

132 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:05:52am

re: #118 Afrocity

Umm, do you have to be so obvious about pointing out how pathetic and sexless my life is?

Hey it's 3am here,

/ok I'm a sexless dork too.

133 Kragar  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:07:22am

Since we're talking movies, this is my favorite "OH SHIT!" scenes in recent movie history.

134 suboptimal  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:08:18am

re: #132 x-wing

re: #118 Afrocity

Umm, do you have to be so obvious about pointing out how pathetic and sexless my life is?

Hey it's 3am here,

/ok I'm a sexless dork too.

Wow, lot of married people here tonight.

/do I really need to?

135 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:08:49am

re: #124 Killgore Trout

David Bowie has excellent taste in women... [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

136 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:09:52am

re: #132 x-wing

Hey it's 3am here,

/ok I'm a sexless dork too.

Don't you have some blow up Ethiopian models to keep you busy ;-)

137 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:10:21am

re: #132 x-wing

Hey it's 3am here,

/ok I'm a sexless dork too.

Guards!....

138 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:10:49am

re: #127 Afrocity

..except if your a supermodel. There is extreme poverty going on in Ethiopia. That is where my niece is from.

It's just amazing the stark difference then I guess. Until the net I would've never guessed they had these types of women living there. And Ethiopia does have a kick ass Military. Just learned that in the past year.

139 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:12:38am

re: #138 x-wing

There are beautiful women all over the world. In all shades.

140 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:12:39am

A bunch of cows and bulls are standing in a field. A huge gust of wind comes along and all the cows fall over, but the bulls just stand there, bracing themselves against the
gale.

All the cows stand up and go back to their chewing.

Pretty soon, an even stronger wind blows through and all of the cows are knocked to the ground, but the bulls just munch on the grass.

Next, a bona fide tornado comes through and all the cows are knocked clean into the next pasture. The bulls just say, "Mooo..."

Finally, one of the cows walks up to one of the bulls and says, "Moo? Is that all you can say? How come the wind always knocks us right over and you just stand there?"

"Isn't it obvious?" the bull replies. "We bulls wobble, but we don't fall down."

141 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:14:42am

re: #140 Dustyvet

That's awful cheesy...

;-P

142 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:15:12am

Ethiopians are East Africans and have influences from farther North as well as the Middle East, in terms of both racial and cultural make-up. They are 40% Caucasoid.

143 Pietr  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:15:17am

re: #133 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The fight scenes inside after they landed were good, as well-to bad the Pilot died after getting it down........:>((

144 JHW  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:15:22am

Ethiopia has an interesting history. They've maintained their independence almost continuously for centuries, except for a brief time when Mussolini invaded and held the country. It is even more extraordinary when you look at the map and see how close they are to the Arabian peninsula and how they maintained the indigenous religions and repulsed several Muslim invasions. Very much a contrast to the sad history of Somalia.

145 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:15:37am

If Noah had lived in the United States today the story may have gone something like this:

And the Lord spoke to Noah and said, "In one year, I am going to make it rain and cover the whole earth with water until all flesh is destroyed. But I want you to save the righteous people and two of every kind of living thing on earth. Therefore, I am commanding you to build an Ark." In a flash of lightning, God delivered the specifications for an Ark. In fear and trembling, Noah took the plans and agreed to build the ark. "Remember," said the Lord, "you must complete the Ark and bring everything aboard in one year."

Exactly one year later, fierce storm clouds covered the earth and all the seas of the earth went into a tumult. The Lord saw that Noah was sitting in his front yard weeping. "Noah!" He shouted. "Where is the Ark?"

"Lord, please forgive me," cried Noah. "I did my best, but there were big problems.

First, I had to get a permit for construction, and your plans did not meet the building codes. I had to hire an engineering firm and redraw the plans.
Then I got into a fight with OSHA over whether or not the Ark needed a sprinkler system and approved floatation devices.
Then, my neighbor objected, claiming I was violating zoning ordinances by building the Ark in my front yard, so I had to get a variance from the city planning commission.

Then, I had problems getting enough wood for the Ark, because there was a ban on cutting trees to protect the Spotted Owl. I finally convinced the U.S. Forest Service that I really needed the wood to save the owls. However, the Fish and Wildlife Service won't let me take the 2 owls.

The carpenters formed a union and went on strike. I had to negotiate a settlement with the National Labor Relations Board before anyone would pick up a saw or hammer. Now, I have 16 carpenters on the Ark, but still no owls.

When I started rounding up the other animals, an animal rights group sued me. They objected to me taking only two of each kind aboard. This suit is pending.

Meanwhile, the EPA notified me that I could not complete the Ark without filing an environmental impact statement on your proposed flood. They didn't take very kindly to the idea that they had no jurisdiction over the conduct of the Creator of the Universe.

Then, the Army Corps of Engineers demanded a map of the proposed flood plain. I sent them a globe.

Right now, I am trying to resolve a complaint filed with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission that I am practicing discrimination by not taking atheists aboard.

The IRS has seized my assets, claiming that I'm building the Ark in preparation to flee the country to avoid paying taxes. I just got a notice from the state that I owe them some kind of user tax and failed to register the Ark as a 'recreational water craft'.

And finally, the ACLU got the courts to issue an injunction against further construction of the Ark, saying that since God is flooding the earth, it's a religious event, and, therefore unconstitutional.
I really don't think I can finish the Ark for another five or six years."

Noah waited. The sky began to clear, the sun began to shine, and the seas began to calm. A rainbow arched across the sky.

Noah looked up hopefully. "You mean you're not going to destroy the earth, Lord?"

"No," He said sadly. "I don't have to. The government already has."

146 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:16:44am

re: #135 MrPaulRevere

Check out Salman Rushdie's new chick, Pia Glenn.

147 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:17:00am

re: #134 suboptimal

Wow, lot of married people here tonight.

/do I really need to?

LOL. And whoever just said that sex is overrated, I'll tell you what. How about cutting me in on a little of your action ;>}

////no seriously ;>}////////////

148 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:17:02am

If Ethiopians are from Ethiopia, and Australians are from Australia, why aren't Canadians from Canadia?

149 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:17:23am

re: #146 Killgore Trout

I thought he was married to Padma

150 freetoken  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:17:29am

It is fascinating... I put up a spin-off link, it has no clicks, but already a -1 rating... I'd say somebody has a definite opinion.

151 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:17:36am

Isn't Iman at least partly Somali?

152 Pietr  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:18:00am

re: #140 Dustyvet

Punjoke, punjoke...............:>O

153 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:18:39am

re: #149 Afrocity

I think he's recently divorced. I really admire the guy, he dates waaay out of his league.

154 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:18:52am

re: #146 Killgore Trout

I'm a sucker for long legs.

155 Kragar  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:19:13am

re: #143 Pietr

The fight scenes inside after they landed were good, as well-to bad the Pilot died after getting it down........:>((

Yup. Bar fight was good too.

156 Killian Bundy  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:20:30am

/If this movie doesn't make your skin crawl... It's On Too Tight!

157 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:21:01am

re: #144 JHW

Ethiopia has an interesting history. They've maintained their independence almost continuously for centuries, except for a brief time when Mussolini invaded and held the country. It is even more extraordinary when you look at the map and see how close they are to the Arabian peninsula and how they maintained the indigenous religions and repulsed several Muslim invasions. Very much a contrast to the sad history of Somalia.


Let's not forget one of the first nations to adopt Christianity (I'm not sure if they were THE first or the Armenians were)...awhile back the History Channel had a show about some of their aincent monestaries hewn out of the mountainside.

158 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:21:39am

Wow you Republican guys are really surprising me. I thought that you only dated within your own races---the Christie Brinkley types. I went to a GOP mixer and mostly held up the wall.

159 dapperdave  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:22:26am

re: #147 x-wing

Darn! overrated is one word, I thought so, learn something new on this blog everyday.

Oh ya, there are 6 billion people in the world, sex is overrated and nothing new.////

160 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:22:40am

re: #158 Afrocity

Wow you Republican guys are really surprising me. I thought that you only dated within your own races---the Christie Brinkley types. I went to a GOP mixer and mostly held up the wall.

Time for a lizard mixer in Chicago...

161 freetoken  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:23:04am

re: #158 Afrocity

Republicans? Where?

162 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:23:56am

re: #156 Killian Bundy

/If this movie doesn't make your skin crawl... It's On Too Tight!

Just as I started the video, my cat jumped onto the back of my office chair...

163 JHW  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:24:00am

re: #157 Fenway_Nation

Yes, that's true, a form of Coptic? Anyway that led to a lot of pressure from jihads, they were nearly surrounded.

164 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:24:46am

re: #158 Afrocity

I was engaged to a Mexican lady once, too bad I later found out she was nuts.

165 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:24:57am

Isn't the definition of conservative ...how can I out this straight laced. meaning you stick to the norm. In terms of dating = stick to the devil you know.

166 abolitionist  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:25:08am

Recently, my daughter was somewhat traumatized by a false accusation of shoplifting at a convenience store/gas station. Her accusers had reported to police that she had entered, cruised the candy aisle, and left without buying anything, and that they "had it on tape."

It was close to curfew when an officer knocked on my door, inquiring about my daughter's car and her whereabouts. He informed me about the accusation of shoplifting, "on tape." A minute or so later he was talking to my daughter on my portable phone, and several minutes later, he was on the scene. I had told her to stay put and wait for him.

County police investigating the complaint searched her car and her purse, and repeatedly urged her to 'fess up. It helped that she was able to produce a receipt for the items she had actually purchased at the cashier, with her debit card. After talking among themselves and discussing how various details of the accusations didn't add up, they let her go, and went on to question the store personnel some more.

Daughter is mostly white, the store clerks not. Fortunately, the police behaved quite professionally in this case. The store clerks, not so much.

This could have easily turned out very different.

167 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:25:43am

re: #139 Afrocity

There are beautiful women all over the world. In all shades.

I should've added.. that the Media portays. They always seem to show the poor and down trodden.

I don't know if you saw my posts the other night but, I have a thing for the darker shaded women.

168 suboptimal  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:26:41am

re: #165 Afrocity

Isn't the definition of conservative ...how can I out this straight laced. meaning you stick to the norm. In terms of dating = stick to the devil you know.

Stick to the devil you know? I married her!

/She's actually an angel, most of the time

169 dapperdave  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:26:45am

re: #159 dapperdave

OOPS! sorry I didn't mean to put a sarc tag...I meant this ;)

170 Wendya  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:26:49am

re: #158 Afrocity

Wow you Republican guys are really surprising me. I thought that you only dated within your own races---the Christie Brinkley types. I went to a GOP mixer and mostly held up the wall.

Most men don't give a rat's ass what color beauty comes in.

171 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:27:04am

re: #158 Afrocity

Wow you Republican guys are really surprising me. I thought that you only dated within your own races---the Christie Brinkley types. I went to a GOP mixer and mostly held up the wall.

The GOP has mixers?

172 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:27:11am

re: #161 freetoken

Republicans? Where?

Hell, I'm not even a conservative.

173 JHW  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:27:14am

re: #157 Fenway_Nation

re: #163 JHW

Wiki article on the rock hewn churches you mentioned, with photos.
Lalibela, Ethiopia

174 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:27:38am

re: #149 Afrocity

I thought he was married to Padma

Nope she canned his ass. She has her own cooking show now or something.

Salman has some other chickie-poo by his side, Don't know her name.

175 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:28:41am

re: #167 x-wing

I should've added.. that the Media portays. They always seem to show the poor and down trodden.

I don't know if you saw my posts the other night but, I have a thing for the darker shaded women.

Promise me something. Do not I repeat do not. Approach a woman of color and ask"Why do you like white guys?"

176 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:29:23am

The hips that haunt my dreams....
chaiya chaiya

/It's a nice Valentine's Day video too.

177 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:30:18am

re: #174 x-wing

See #146

178 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:30:49am

re: #158 Afrocity

I'm a libertarian on Saturday night, and on most nights actually.

179 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:31:01am

re: #176 Killgore Trout

The hips that haunt my dreams....
chaiya chaiya

/It's a nice Valentine's Day video too.

I'm not opening another video till I locate the frigging cat!

180 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:31:10am

re: #171 Fenway_Nation

The GOP has mixers?

Yes, in Chicago at least. They meet at the art galleries or ball games. I went and soon the $270 was not worth me standing alone most of the evening (sniffing my armpits to see whats wrong)

181 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:31:30am

Once upon a time the government had a vast scrap yard in the middle of a desert.

Congress said,"Someone may steal from it at night." So they created a night watchman position and hired a person for the job.

Then Congress said,"How does the watchman do his job without instruction?" So they created a planning department and hired two people, one person to write the instructions, and one person to do time studies.

Then Congress said,"How will we know the night watchman is doing the tasks correctly?" So they created a Quality Control department and hired two people. One to do the studies and one to write the reports.

Then Congress said,"How are these people going to get paid?" So they created the following positions, a time keeper, and a payroll officer, then hired two people.

Then Congress said,"Who will be accountable for all of these people?" So they created an administrative section and hired three people, an Administrative Officer, Assistant Administrative Officer, and a Legal Secretary.

Then Congress said,"We have had this command in operation for one year and we are $18,000 over budget, we must cutback overall cost." So they laid off the night watchman.

182 Killian Bundy  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:32:31am

Paraguay celebrates Rutherford B. Hayes

As the U.S. celebrates Presidents Day on Monday, citizens of this small South American country wonder why anyone would overlook Rutherford B. Hayes.

Forget Lincoln or Washington. Hayes — a one-term U.S. president who is undistinguished at home — has a holiday, a province, a town, a museum and a soccer team all named in his honor, thanks to an 1878 arbitration in which he handed Paraguay 60 percent of its land.

"If it weren't for Hayes, Paraguay would have a smaller territory than it has today," said Salvador Garozzo, director of the municipal museum in the town of Villa Hayes, capital of Presidente Hayes province.

/who knew?

183 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:33:17am

re: #158 Afrocity

Wow you Republican guys are really surprising me. I thought that you only dated within your own races---the Christie Brinkley types. I went to a GOP mixer and mostly held up the wall.

y'all need to get out more.

my college sweetheart was a Druze.

/my fault it didn't go anywhere

184 dapperdave  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:33:17am

re: #181 Dustyvet

Yep,that sounds about right.

185 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:33:26am

re: #175 Afrocity

Promise me something. Do not I repeat do not. Approach a woman of color and ask"Why do you like white guys?"


Heh....when I was in the Army, I was in the same room as one of the black NCOs in my platoon as he was having a lengthy and heated exchange with his girlfriend at the time (who I'm assuming was black).

Without any prompting, he looks at me and asks in a loud voice 'You know why the brothers like white women so much, specialist?'

I kinda shrugged, not wanting to get dragged into it, but he answeres his own query regardless by snarling 'Black women!' as he slammed the phone down....

186 Pietr  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:33:42am

re: #158 Afrocity

This night crew has a lot of ex-GI's on it, but this is LGF, and I'd venture you'd enjoy any Lizard you actually meet. GMTA, and all that.....

187 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:34:52am

re: #185 Fenway_Nation

I have never dated a black man. Your story is one of the reason's why.

188 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:35:01am

re: #182 Killian Bundy

Paraguay celebrates Rutherford B. Hayes


/who knew?

I did, believe it or not....

/Come for the Rutherford B. Hayes adulation- stay for the 100+ year old wood-burning British steam locomotives.

189 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:35:21am

re: #185 Fenway_Nation

Heh....when I was in the Army, I was in the same room as one of the black NCOs in my platoon as he was having a lengthy and heated exchange with his girlfriend at the time (who I'm assuming was black).

Without any prompting, he looks at me and asks in a loud voice 'You know why the brothers like white women so much, specialist?'

I kinda shrugged, not wanting to get dragged into it, but he answeres his own query regardless by snarling 'Black women!' as he slammed the phone down....

There speaks a man who has never dated a white woman--or at least a man who has never dated me.

I think.

What date, approximately?

190 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:37:12am

re: #180 Afrocity

Yes, in Chicago at least. They meet at the art galleries or ball games. I went and soon the $270 was not worth me standing alone most of the evening (sniffing my armpits to see whats wrong)

for $270, can i sniff your armpits?

/white smoke

191 suboptimal  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:38:20am

re: #190 redc1c4

for $270, can i sniff your armpits?

/white smoke

LOL!

192 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:38:39am

re: #182 Killian Bundy

Paraguay celebrates Rutherford B. Hayes

/who knew?

The Mediocre Presidents

All: We are the mediocre presidents.
You won't find our faces on dollars or on cents!
There's Taylor, there's Tyler,
There's Fillmore and there's Hayes.
There's William Henry Harrison,

Harrison: I died in thirty days!

All: We... are... the...
Adequate, forgettable,
Occasionally regrettable
Caretaker presidents of the U-S-A!

193 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:39:06am

re: #190 redc1c4

lol, I use deodorant I assure you.

194 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:39:59am

re: #180 Afrocity

Yes, in Chicago at least. They meet at the art galleries or ball games. I went and soon the $270 was not worth me standing alone most of the evening (sniffing my armpits to see whats wrong)

Meeting up at art galleries or ballparks sounds nice. The $270, not so much...

195 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:40:16am

re: #180 Afrocity

Yes, in Chicago at least. They meet at the art galleries or ball games. I went and soon the $270 was not worth me standing alone most of the evening (sniffing my armpits to see whats wrong)

Wow, I wouldn't go to a Republican mixer if they paid me $270. Ok, maybe for an hour or two but they'd better pay in cash.

196 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:40:23am

re: #187 Afrocity

I have never dated a black man. Your story is one of the reason's why.

Damn and you just told me to never ask why. Now I'm really curious. And I'm not just talking black women. The Asians used to dig me. Also, how did you know I was white?

/do I type funny ;>}

197 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:41:29am

re: #196 x-wing

Everyone on here is white except for me.

198 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:42:33am

re: #158 Afrocity

Wow you Republican guys are really surprising me. I thought that you only dated within your own races---the Christie Brinkley types. I went to a GOP mixer and mostly held up the wall.

well, i got shot down so many times at the "multi-cultural" mixers that i gave up and just drank their booze......... even us rednecks can tell when we're not wanted.

199 suboptimal  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:42:54am

re: #197 Afrocity

Everyone on here is white except for me.

It's not my fault, I was born this way.

200 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:43:53am

re: #194 Fenway_Nation

re: #195 Killgore Trout

$270 is a good way to weed out people who make less than $90K, plus the money goes to the GOP.

201 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:44:03am

I have to go and pass out now. I am fighting off round two of this stupid cold, and the Sudafed is kicking in hard.

Good night Lizards. May you all find the Lizard of your dreams...

202 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:44:05am

re: #177 Killgore Trout

See #146

Thanks, running a little behind, gonna catch up quickly.

203 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:44:28am

re: #199 suboptimal

It's not my fault, I was born this way.

It has to do with heredity and sex.

It's like having children. If your parents didn't haven't any children, then you probably won't either.

204 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:44:38am

re: #193 Afrocity

lol, I use deodorant I assure you.

that tastes funky... re: #197 Afrocity

Everyone on here is white except for me.

but we are all members of the NAACP.

205 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:44:41am

re: #194 Fenway_Nation

Bookstores work well too. You can tell alot about a person from the books they're looking at (he said, ending a sentence in a preposition). I met a really nice German chick looking at ancient Egyptian pornography in the British National Museum a few years ago.

206 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:44:50am

re: #176 Killgore Trout

The hips that haunt my dreams....
chaiya chaiya

/It's a nice Valentine's Day video too.

My fiancee is Indian (:

207 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:45:32am

re: #197 Afrocity

Everyone on here is white except for me.

Why do you think that?

208 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:45:37am

re: #200 Afrocity

re: #195 Killgore Trout

$270 is a good way to weed out people who make less than $90K, plus the money goes to the GOP.

Ah, that explains why they have the events and why I can't go.

209 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:45:57am

re: #206 astronmr20

Lucky you.

210 dapperdave  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:46:03am

re: #203 gmsc

That's crazy...ROFL

211 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:46:12am

re: #209 Killgore Trout

Lucky you.

Indeed.

212 JHW  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:46:27am

Where I live, a Republican mixer could probably be held in a phone booth and might be a bit dangerous to the participants if they're seen.

213 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:46:36am

re: #193 Afrocity

lol, I use deodorant I assure you.

that's to bad.... musk is sexy.

/funk, otoh, is not.

214 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:46:53am

re: #198 redc1c4

well, i got shot down so many times at the "multi-cultural" mixers that i gave up and just drank their booze......... even us rednecks can tell when we're not wanted.

Shot Down? Are you sure you were not involved in combat and not attending a party?

215 dapperdave  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:47:03am

re: #206 astronmr20

Set a date yet?

216 suboptimal  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:47:40am

re: #203 gmsc

It has to do with heredity and sex.

It's like having children. If your parents didn't haven't any children, then you probably won't either.

But they had a dog, and now I've got a dog. That means something doesn't it?

/probably not, but what the heck

217 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:47:45am

re: #215 dapperdave

Set a date yet?

Workin' on it. Can't set date until the K-1 goes through.

218 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:48:01am

re: #199 suboptimal

It's not my fault, I was born this way.

One last teacher story--when I got engaged, my seventh graders wanted to know the race of my future husband. (Oakland!) I said he was white (mostly, but close enough for seventh graders).

"Why does he have to be white?" complained a seventh grader.

"Well," I explained, "it really wasn't a choice he made, his mom and dad did it to him..."

Seventh grader was still slightly annoyed with me, I think.

219 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:48:09am

re: #197 Afrocity

Everyone on here is white except for me.


You mean I'm gonna stay this color? ;>}

/

220 sngnsgt  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:48:20am
221 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:48:43am

re: #207 astronmr20

Why do you think that?

You know it is true..

Okay guys demographics poll:

Black female, 30's, masters degree

222 dapperdave  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:49:33am

re: #216 suboptimal

That and $1.90 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks

223 dapperdave  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:50:14am

re: #217 astronmr20

What's k-1?

224 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:50:43am

re: #221 Afrocity

You know it is true..

Okay guys demographics poll:

Black female, 30's, masters degree


Well how many people are we polling here? 10?

Anyhow;

American Indian/ Greek/ Italian, 30's, Engineer.

225 suboptimal  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:51:00am

re: #218 SanFranciscoZionist

One last teacher story--when I got engaged, my seventh graders wanted to know the race of my future husband. (Oakland!) I said he was white (mostly, but close enough for seventh graders).

"Why does he have to be white?" complained a seventh grader.

"Well," I explained, "it really wasn't a choice he made, his mom and dad did it to him..."

Seventh grader was still slightly annoyed with me, I think.

Beautiful deflection withthe humor, though. Excellent work.

/You mean I'm gonna stay this color? - Navin R Johnson

226 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:51:59am

re: #223 dapperdave

What's k-1?

It's basically referred to as a fiancee visa. (She lived here for a while under a work visa.. B1/ B2... we applied for a K-1 a few months ago.)

Once the K-1 is granted, we'll have 6 months to get married here.

227 dapperdave  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:53:31am

re: #226 astronmr20

Ohh o.k. I hope it goes smooth for you two, I'm getting married this June.

228 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:53:47am

re: #204 redc1c4

but we are all members of the NAACP.

I have my card but never get invited to the meetings.

229 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:54:28am

re: #227 dapperdave

Ohh o.k. I hope it goes smooth for you two, I'm getting married this June.

Congrats!

230 suboptimal  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:54:35am

re: #222 dapperdave

That and $1.90 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks

There's a habit I'm glad I never picked up. Even if it is more socially acceptable than flicking ear wax at strangers.

231 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:54:57am

re: #211 astronmr20

You should talk her into taking you to India. It can be a bit tough if you haven't traveled in Asia or Africa before but the place does get under your skin.

232 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:55:41am

re: #228 x-wing

I have my card but never get invited to the meetings.

I have the same problem with the non-conformists' club. I took the oath and never heard from them again.

233 Pietr  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:55:48am

re: #224 astronmr20

re: #221 Afrocity

Astronmr20...NA-Tribe/percentage? I'm 1/8th Cherokee.

Afrocity-1/2 Polish, paternal-1/8th each Scottish, Irish, Dutch, and Cherokee, maternal...61, retired AF Electonic tech/PC tech.......

234 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:55:56am

"Not one member has read this bill:"


235 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:56:16am

Hell on Wheels. Isn't that 2AD? Artillery Division?

236 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:56:52am

re: #233 Pietr

re: #221 Afrocity

Astronmr20...NA-Tribe/percentage? I'm 1/8th Cherokee.

Afrocity-1/2 Polish, paternal-1/8th each Scottish, Irish, Dutch, and Cherokee, maternal...61, retired AF Electonic tech/PC tech.......

Mohegan- 1/8.

237 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:56:55am

re: #219 x-wing

You mean I'm gonna stay this color? ;>}

/

Lol, I'm not sure how many got that reference.

238 Render  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:57:07am

re: #29 Pietr

I dunno Pietr, art is a far cry from IEDs and AK-47's. I'd call it an improvement.

Much like this story from the same edition...

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

“Basically it is a Palestinian decision — whether they want to send flowers or rockets." Maj. Peter Lerner, a spokesman for the Israeli Defense Ministry.

I'll take the flowers and art anytime.

MODERATION
SELLS,
R

239 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:57:09am

re: #233 Pietr

I am 1/4 Native American

240 dapperdave  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:57:13am

re: #229 astronmr20

Thanks, same to you hope all goes with the two of you, my poor girl doesn't know yet but I think she might be an LGF widow.

241 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:58:00am

re: #221 Afrocity

You know it is true..

Okay guys demographics poll:

Black female, 30's, masters degree


White male ,40's, oh you just had to throw that masters out there ;>}

/H.S. Grad.

242 suboptimal  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:58:03am

re: #228 x-wing

I have my card but never get invited to the meetings.

Sounds like this guy.

243 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:58:10am

re: #214 Afrocity

Shot Down? Are you sure you were not involved in combat and not attending a party?

it was part of the ongoing war between the sexes......

fortunately, i have since been taken prisoner and will be held until the cessation of hostilities.

244 dapperdave  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:58:34am

re: #230 suboptimal

I perfer flicking boogers myself///

245 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:59:07am

re: #224 astronmr20

I'm a white mutt (english/ukranian). My family name has old (9th/10th century) Jewish origin.

246 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:59:32am

re: #240 dapperdave

Thanks, same to you hope all goes with the two of you, my poor girl doesn't know yet but I think she might be an LGF widow.

Well, along with no more late nights posting randomly in an anti-jihad site, I believe you and I will be making major changes in our lives, brother.

247 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:59:39am

re: #221 Afrocity

You know it is true..

Okay guys demographics poll:

Black female, 30's, masters degree

re: #235 Afrocity

Hell on Wheels. Isn't that 2AD? Artillery Division?

Armored!

248 Pietr  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:59:54am

re: #236 astronmr20

Mohican- 1/8.

FTFY

249 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:00:06am

re: #235 Afrocity


Armoured

250 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:00:15am

re: #245 Killgore Trout

I'm a white mutt (english/ukranian). My family name has old (9th/10th century) Jewish origin.

Actually, my great great great grandmother was a Romanian Jew.

So I am indeed a mutt.

There's actually a tiny bit of German in there, too.

251 dapperdave  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:00:46am

re: #246 astronmr20

Oooooh ya...you know it!

252 Render  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:01:00am

re: #197 Afrocity

Not true my dear lady. Here we are all green.

OLIVE
DRAB,
R

253 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:02:32am

re: #235 Afrocity

Hell on Wheels. Isn't that 2AD? Artillery Division?

Armor Division but you have a cute avatar so I'll let that slide ;>}

254 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:02:38am

re: #252 Render

Not true my dear lady. Here we are all green.

OLIVE
DRAB,
R

..and we have so many people attack us for our beliefs, it's not easy!

255 suboptimal  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:02:55am

re: #244 dapperdave

I perfer flicking boogers myself///

Your own or somebody else's?

/please, I don't really want the answer

256 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:03:11am

re: #250 astronmr20

Oddly enough my Jewish side comes from England via the French. I have no idea about the Ukrainians. They very well might have been Jewish too, they fled in the 30's or 40's.

257 Render  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:03:27am

re: #235 Afrocity

2nd Armored Division.

PATTONS
OWN,
R

258 dapperdave  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:04:14am

re: #255 suboptimal

You pick your friends, you can pick your nose but you can't pick your friends nose ;)

259 Afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:04:15am

I am turning in guys I just made some s'mores and a cup of hot chocolate, I got my cat here in bed all snugg, and comfy

260 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:04:59am

re: #259 Afrocity

I am turning in guys I just made some s'mores and a cup of hot chocolate, I got my cat here in bed all snugg, and comfy


I think you have just provided some good dreams to several lizards on here... (:

261 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:05:04am

re: #239 Afrocity

I am 1/4 Native American

i'm just 100% American........

not sure how much of what is what, but damn sure glad we don't still live wherever that was, mostly because if it was so wonderful, my ancestors wouldn't have shagged ass for here to begin with.

262 dapperdave  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:05:56am

re: #259 Afrocity

night night

263 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:06:04am

re: #242 suboptimal

Sounds like this guy.

OMG that is hilarious. Up-ding just for finding that,

264 capitalist piglet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:08:31am

re: #258 dapperdave

You pick your friends, you can pick your nose but you can't pick your friends nose ;)

That is demonstrably untrue.

265 abolitionist  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:08:40am

re: #221 Afrocity

Male, 60, widower, mix of german, french, english, irish(?), a little native american(?), BS, physics.

266 sngnsgt  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:08:53am

Rep. Walter Jones, a North Carolina Republican, has signed on as a co-sponsor of legislation introduced by House Judiciary Chair John Conyers to investigate President Bush.

huffingtonpost.com

267 dapperdave  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:09:52am

re: #264 capitalist piglet

Ya but somethings are just wrong.

268 suboptimal  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:09:58am

re: #264 capitalist piglet

That is demonstrably untrue.

You Tube link?

/if you've any humanity, no!

269 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:10:08am

re: #259 Afrocity

I am turning in guys I just made some s'mores and a cup of hot chocolate, I got my cat here in bed all snugg, and comfy

Whenever someone asks me about my ideal woman, I always describe her with an emphasis on the comfortable type. Instead of talking about the looks and measurements, I always tend to focus on what we'll be like with each other after years together.

What will we be like together after 20 or 30 years? Would her smile still make my heart beat when we both have gray hair?

270 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:10:13am

re: #257 Render

2nd Armored Division.

PATTONS
OWN,
R


Hoo-rah.

Only unit to wear the patch on our chest.

Pattons
Doing.

271 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:10:31am

re: #266 sngnsgt

Rep. Walter Jones, a North Carolina Republican, has signed on as a co-sponsor of legislation introduced by House Judiciary Chair John Conyers to investigate President Bush.

huffingtonpost.com

What?

I'm in NC now. I may need to pick up the phone and crush some heads...

272 suboptimal  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:11:02am

re: #263 x-wing

OMG that is hilarious. Up-ding just for finding that,

I remembered it from a post here a while back.

273 suboptimal  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:13:42am

re: #269 gmsc

Whenever someone asks me about my ideal woman, I always describe her with an emphasis on the comfortable type. Instead of talking about the looks and measurements, I always tend to focus on what we'll be like with each other after years together.

What will we be like together after 20 or 30 years? Would her smile still make my heart beat when we both have gray hair?

When asked, I point them to SWMBO.

Who then calls me a kiss-ass.

/I always reply, "later, dear, can't you wait?"

274 theheat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:13:45am

I remember when science was my favorite class, from grade school on up. I would sometimes get science books at Christmas, and spend hours and hours reading. My dad even got dinosaur flash cards for me as a kid, and I would try to break down the names in Latin. (Actually, all that Latin helped me later in biology.)

Man, as a naive kid I had no idea where all this shit would end up. Well, and as a kid you aren't supposed to say 'shit', so there's one more difference...

Just saying. I think I miss being a kid. It seemed so much simpler, then. OTOH, I still like to be able to say shit. Maybe it's a tradeoff.

275 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:13:57am

re: #261 redc1c4

i'm just 100% American........

not sure how much of what is what, but damn sure glad we don't still live wherever that was, mostly because if it was so wonderful, my ancestors wouldn't have shagged ass for here to begin with.

Got that right red. Mine bugged out in the late 1700's, spent 2 years in the old country in the mid 1980's

did I mention I don't reall care for krauts? I like sourkraut tho' ;>}

276 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:17:38am

Mostly of Irish stock, myself....

Having said that, I went on a trip to Ireland back in 2001 and remember quietly genuflecting in front of a worn celtic cross in an old cemetary, thanking the lord that one of my ancestors had it in them to get off that boggy, windswept rock and seek out a better path...

277 dapperdave  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:17:44am

Good night, I'm out!

278 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:20:38am

re: #269 gmsc

I knew you were just a softie. I was expecting the worst.

/good show ;>}

279 pink freud  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:24:07am

re: #278 x-wing

I knew you were just a softie.

So did I. But I saw #27.

;-)

280 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:26:12am

re: #278 x-wing

I knew you were just a softie. I was expecting the worst.

/good show ;>}

When I read about Afrocity talking about s'mores, hot chocolate, and getting all snugg in her bed, it made me smile.

281 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:26:22am

O.K. where'd everyone go? Half hour till fruitcup,unless Tall Old Man got after Little Old Lady last night ;>}

/

282 theheat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:31:22am

re: #231 Killgore Trout

...and the food is awesome. G*d forgive me, but I love my curry.

283 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:32:35am

re: #281 x-wing

O.K. where'd everyone go? Half hour till fruitcup,unless Tall Old Man got after Little Old Lady last night ;>}

/

Well, let's see . . . Afrocity probably doesn't want s'mores or hot chocolate dripping on her computer (or cat for that matter), Red's off trying to get the deodorant taste out of his mouth . . .

284 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:32:40am

re: #280 gmsc

When I read about Afrocity talking about s'mores, hot chocolate, and getting all snugg in her bed, it made me smile.

Old Burl Ives. Reminds me of the days when we still had a country that resembled America.

Hell I'd take America of 30 years ago, even though I couldn't say shit. I don't use it in front of my son now, so it wouldn't be that much of a biggie.

285 theheat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:34:09am

re: #259 Afrocity

Nothing says I love you like a rotten little Jack Russell ;-)

286 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:36:56am

re: #283 gmsc

Well, let's see . . . Afrocity probably doesn't want s'mores or hot chocolate dripping on her computer (or cat for that matter), Red's off trying to get the deodorant taste out of his mouth . . .

That red he just wonders off sometimes. He should learn to say bye or something. And he wonders why he wasn't a hit with the ladies ;>}

//I'm just kidding red

287 abolitionist  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:37:58am

Ban Those Old Books! It’s For The Children™

It’s hard to believe, but true: under a law Congress passed last year aimed at regulating hazards in children’s products, the federal government has now advised that children’s books published before 1985 should not be considered safe and may in many cases be unlawful to sell or distribute. Merchants, thrift stores, and booksellers may be at risk if they sell older volumes, or even give them away, without first subjecting them to testing—at prohibitive expense. Many used-book sellers, consignment stores, Goodwill outlets, and the like have accordingly begun to refuse new donations of pre-1985 volumes, yank existing ones off their shelves, and in some cases discard them en masse.

The problem is the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008 (CPSIA), passed by Congress last summer after the panic over lead paint on toys from China. Among its other provisions, CPSIA imposed tough new limits on lead in any products intended for use by children aged 12 or under, and made those limits retroactive: that is, goods manufactured before the law passed cannot be sold on the used market (even in garage sales or on eBay) if they don’t conform.
[snip]

Penalties under the law are strict and can include $100,000 fines and prison time, regardless of whether any child is harmed.
[snip]

Not to mention that those older books may not have been quite so leftist in their agenda. Ahem.

288 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:38:06am

re: #286 x-wing

That red he just wonders off sometimes. He should learn to say bye or something. And he wonders why he wasn't a hit with the ladies ;>}

//I'm just kidding red

Ladies like the aloof men.

289 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:39:30am

re: #287 abolitionist

Ban Those Old Books! It’s For The Children™

What?

I have some pre-1985 books that I consider SACRED from my childhood, and I will pass on to my kids.

Are they mad?

Lead paint? Or what? WTF? Why?

290 Pietr  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:41:18am

re: #285 theheat

Nothing says I love you like a rotten little Jack Russell ;-)

Beasts from hell(JK)-but you gotta love them. Our 12 yr old died last year-spent a lot trying to keep her going, until she had no real joy-my friendly vet found me a rescue that is mostly JR-and she's stronger than any big dog I ever owned. She breaks chains-and if she can get around me fast enough, can hogtie my ankles with the leash.....unreal.

291 theheat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:41:43am

re: #242 suboptimal

The investigation revealed that Klan members were in the military, including two at NORAD who controlled the triggers for nuclear weapons.

But a happy ending.

"I was told they were being reassigned to somewhere like the North Pole or Greenland," Stallworth said.

I hear Siberia's nice, too. NOT. My SIL is from there.

292 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:41:53am

re: #290 Pietr

Beasts from hell(JK)-but you gotta love them. Our 12 yr old died last year-spent a lot trying to keep her going, until she had no real joy-my friendly vet found me a rescue that is mostly JR-and she's stronger than any big dog I ever owned. She breaks chains-and if she can get around me fast enough, can hogtie my ankles with the leash.....unreal.

They certainly have a lot of energy..

And are really smart dogs.

293 theheat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:45:14am

re: #290 Pietr

Honestly, they're dreadful little dogs. Strong-minded, spastic, unholy little terrors. But, once you've have one or two, they kind of grow on you. Kids love them.

I've seen people with 'nice' ones, though I've never been as fortunate. Mine's awful. I don't know she has any redeeming qualities, whatsoever, as far as pets are concerned.

What? Of course we love her! Wouldn't trade her for anything.

294 abolitionist  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:46:13am

re: #289 astronmr20

Newest excuse for cultural amnesia, I think.

Have a generations-old family bible? Get it tested, or face $100000 fine, or maybe prison.

I wonder how museum curators feel about this? Library of Congress? Is even Jefferson's Koran safe?

Charles? Bueller? Anyone?

295 Render  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:46:22am

re: #287 abolitionist

Another late night WTF?!?

What am I going to do with my walls of books?

BOXES
AND
BOXES,
R

296 Pietr  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:51:56am

re: #287 abolitionist

Seems like a good excuse for getting rid of "Dick and Jane", not to mention ACTUAL history books-to be replaced with PROGRESSIVE crap (translation-DemocRAT/PC propaganda-truth be Damned shite).....:>((

297 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:52:14am

re: #289 astronmr20

What?

I have some pre-1985 books that I consider SACRED from my childhood, and I will pass on to my kids.

Are they mad?

Lead paint? Or what? WTF? Why?

I knew it was bad but not this bad...books? A guy I work with has a boy that races moto-cross, and the Dealer told him that he can't sell his new 50cc motorcycles because some of the parts and paint are made of lead. This is getting down right assinine.

I guess they think the kids are going to chew on these things.

298 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:52:20am

Who needs all those nasty old books when there's YouTube or American Idol?

299 abolitionist  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:52:33am

re: #296 Pietr

Bingo.

300 theheat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:53:34am

re: #295 Render

Ummm... I suppose as long as you aren't devouring them, you're probably safe. We were taught to read books, not eat them. Collecting old books always had its own unique kind of comfort. A whole library of old books is a real treasure. Consider yourself lucky.

I swear, there's hysteria about the dumbest things, any more.

301 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:54:00am

re: #286 x-wing

That red he just wonders off sometimes. He should learn to say bye or something. And he wonders why he wasn't a hit with the ladies ;>}

//I'm just kidding red

i'm a hit with one (most days) and that's all any sane man aspires to.

i'm damn lucky, smart enough to know it, and wise enough to w*rk at staying that way.

302 theheat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:57:36am

re: #301 redc1c4

i'm a hit with one (most days) and that's all any sane man aspires to.

Another failed pluralist, red. Sorry to break it to you.

303 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:58:38am

re: #295 Render

Another late night WTF?!?

What am I going to do with my walls of books?

BOXES
AND
BOXES,
R

You just can't sell them.

Assault weapons ban of 1994 all over again...only lead and kids this time.

Total
Insanity

304 Pietr  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:58:39am

WTF! I had just posted, refreshed the page after reaching my comment 3 posts down-and had to log back in? Not the first time it's happened, but I haven't figured out the rhyme or reason of it. Hint, anyone?

305 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:58:55am

fruit cup, who wants fruit cup? i've got yer fruit cup right here-------->

/white smoke

306 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:00:12am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

307 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:00:21am

re: #305 redc1c4

fruit cup, who wants fruit cup? i've got yer fruit cup right here-------->

/white smoke

Premature fruit-cupulation.

308 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:00:24am

re: #306 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

Yum! Thanks! And here's a Julie Andrews treat just for you!

309 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:00:35am

re: #304 Pietr

WTF! I had just posted, refreshed the page after reaching my comment 3 posts down-and had to log back in? Not the first time it's happened, but I haven't figured out the rhyme or reason of it. Hint, anyone?

you're not popular?

/white smoke

310 theheat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:00:37am

re: #304 Pietr

Dead cookies, bad Ajax, gnomes, or locusts could all be responsible.

311 pink freud  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:01:09am

re: #306 littleoldlady

Goodmorning cutie!

312 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:02:51am

re: #310 theheat

Dead cookies, bad Ajax, gnomes, or locusts could all be responsible.

Isn't that what they found in that Peanut processing plant int Texas?

313 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:03:13am

re: #301 redc1c4

i'm a hit with one (most days) and that's all any sane man aspires to.

i'm damn lucky, smart enough to know it, and wise enough to w*rk at staying that way.

There you are, just gettin' ready for fruitcup.

Glad to hear that you found a woman to keep you happy.

/not looking so promising over here, I beginning to think it might be me ;>}

314 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:03:21am

re: #283 gmsc

Well, let's see . . . Afrocity probably doesn't want s'mores or hot chocolate dripping on her computer (or cat for that matter), Red's off trying to get the deodorant taste out of his mouth . . .

actually, it's kind of an acquired taste.......... %-)

315 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:03:46am

re: #313 x-wing

There you are, just gettin' ready for fruitcup.

Glad to hear that you found a woman to keep you happy.

/not looking so promising over here, I beginning to think it might be me ;>}

How old are you?

316 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:04:44am

re: #304 Pietr

WTF! I had just posted, refreshed the page after reaching my comment 3 posts down-and had to log back in? Not the first time it's happened, but I haven't figured out the rhyme or reason of it. Hint, anyone?

Your not drinking fast enough ;>}

/please try to keep up ;>}

317 theheat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:04:45am

re: #312 Fenway_Nation

No, I believe that was dead rodents, rodent feces, and bird feathers. However, if any of those things find their way into your hard drive, the outcome could be similar.

Even USDA pristine peanut butter would kill a hard drive, though.

318 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:04:46am

re: #307 astronmr20

Premature fruit-cupulation.

not really: *i* don't have a timing fetish........

319 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:05:21am

gmsc! :-)

pink! pink! pink! :-) :-) :-)

320 Pietr  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:05:36am

re: #310 theheat

re: #306 littleoldlady

I'm gonna put ex-lax in the hamster food:if I can prove they're doing it......:>))

Mornin', littleoldlady-just in time to save us from Red fruit Cup........Cheers, M'am.

321 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:06:03am

re: #318 redc1c4

not really: *i* don't have a timing fetish........

Obviously, neither does my computer... :-/

red! :-)

322 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:06:42am

Pietr! :-)

Resistance is futile!

323 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:06:43am

re: #313 x-wing

There you are, just gettin' ready for fruitcup.

Glad to hear that you found a woman to keep you happy.

/not looking so promising over here, I beginning to think it might be me ;>}

undoubtedly..... weren't you an officer?

/white smoke

324 pink freud  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:06:47am

re: #319 littleoldlady

gmsc! :-)

pink! pink! pink! :-) :-) :-)

Our efforts at fixing the world have come to naught, Lol. Our great-great grandchildren will still be paying for this disaster!

325 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:07:37am

re: #315 astronmr20

How old are you?


43. It's a long story, believe me. I swear I have a loonies only tatoo somewhere on my forehead.

326 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:07:52am

re: #308 gmsc

Ruh roh. I'm not getting youtube?!

/sob!

327 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:07:53am

re: #315 astronmr20

How old are you?

old enough to be a tread head.

328 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:08:34am

re: #325 x-wing

43. It's a long story, believe me. I swear I have a loonies only tatoo somewhere on my forehead.


When you specifically said 'Tribal Armband'!

329 abolitionist  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:09:20am

re: #294 abolitionist

Maybe I overstated the reach of the new laws/regulations, re Bible, Koran. However, if such books are "intended for children" who knows?

[Link: www.cpsc.gov...]

330 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:10:17am

re: #324 pink freud

Our efforts at fixing the world have come to naught, Lol. Our great-great grandchildren will still be paying for this disaster!

Actually, I'm not worried about them anymore.

/they're on their own ....and good luck! :-/

I figured out that there's one and only one way for the government to get that money - NOBODY will buy our bonds - and that's to print it.

/INFLATION, here we come! :-(

331 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:12:09am

re: #323 redc1c4

undoubtedly..... weren't you an officer?

/white smoke


Ouch red... I worked for a living damnit ;>}

/

332 theheat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:12:18am

Must. Get. Sleep. I don't know how the heck you link youtube videos, but I'll try here. Give everyone a laugh before bed. Nothing cfunnier than Jack Russell Terrier races. They're utterly ridiculous, every time. You can always count on a few dashing off course for parts unknown, a couple of tumbles, and the rest running like maniacs.

333 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:12:19am

re: #324 pink freud

Our efforts at fixing the world have come to naught, Lol. Our great-great grandchildren will still be paying for this disaster!

good thing i won't have any, eh?

/gotta make sure we drink the wine cellar before we go

334 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:12:25am

re: #326 littleoldlady

Ruh roh. I'm not getting youtube?!

/sob!

Try refreshing your browser, and then try again (Charles made some youtube-related improvements today).

If that doesn't work, click here to see the video.

335 pink freud  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:12:37am

And now I will have to get rid of my Velveteen Rabbit and my Rabbit, Run, and my 1935 French translation of Crime and Punishment!

336 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:12:50am

re: #308 gmsc

Oh. Now it loaded.

ROTFL! :-)

337 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:13:22am

re: #336 littleoldlady

Oh. Now it loaded.

ROTFL! :-)

Yeah, I somehow thought you'd appreciate it.

338 TheMatrix31  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:13:43am
339 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:14:34am

An interesting resolution came from the House yesterday as they officially sent their representatives into conference with the Senate to resolve the differences in the two passed bill versions:

From yesterday's Congressional Record, Page H1096:

Mr. LEWIS of California moves to instruct the managers on the part of the House that they shall not record their approval of the final conference agreement (as such term is used in clause 12(a)(4) of rule XXII of the Rules of the House of Representatives) unless the text of such agreement has been available to the managers in an electronic, searchable, and downloadable form for at least 48 hours prior to the time described in such clause.

I hope you guys are getting this.

I hope the American people are getting this.

...but Comrade Pelosi had a plane to catch: [Link: www.lifeinitaly.com...]

340 BakaRanger  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:14:38am

Any predictions how the markets will react to the bill from hell?

341 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:14:52am

re: #331 x-wing

Ouch red... I worked for a living damnit ;>}

/

i was a career E-4, without demotions.

(impossible, i know, but i did it anyway. %-)

342 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:15:11am

re: #338 TheMatrix31

Matrix! :-)

WOW. Great buy!

343 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:16:05am

re: #340 BakaRanger

Any predictions how the markets will react to the bill from hell?

Well, Thursday and Friday everyone knew it would pass.


The markets were down.


That about explains it.

344 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:16:50am

re: #340 BakaRanger

Any predictions how the markets will react to the bill from hell?

The futures seemed to suggest that the markets were holding their breath today, and will drop sharply on Monday, when the bill is signed.

345 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:17:12am

re: #340 BakaRanger

Any predictions how the markets will react to the bill from hell?

"glug, glug, glug............."

just a swag, but a safe one.

346 pink freud  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:17:18am

re: #338 TheMatrix31

Sugarland's a nice place. I am surprised, I thought real estate values there and here (Lafayette) would be similar ....that *is* a great price!

347 BakaRanger  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:18:48am

Weren't we sort of hoping for the bill to be trimmed? It seems only to have gotten larger. The markets might react poorly to this reality.

348 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:19:45am

re: #344 gmsc

The futures seemed to suggest that the markets were holding their breath today, and will drop sharply on Monday, when the bill is signed.

but Juggy said that he'd let America have days to comment on important bills before they were signed.......

/white smoke

349 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:19:52am

Spending slowdown will last 15 years, author says

Stock markets and commodity prices may have one last gasp and climb back toward their highs on the back of massive government stimulus programs, but a spending slowdown by Baby Boomers will create an even weaker economic environment that will last for the next decade and a half, according to Harry Dent.

The demographics-based economist and author of The Great Boom Ahead, published in 1993, and The Roaring 2000s back in 1998, outlines a gloomier long-term future than even some of the most bearish economists are currently forecasting. In his new book, The Great Depression Ahead, How to Prosper in the Crash Following the Greatest Boom in History, Mr. Dent warns that the de-leveraging process coming out of the banking crisis and the collapse of commodities is too big a tide for government to fight.

350 pink freud  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:20:04am

Good night all! I wish you all a wonderful weekend :-)

351 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:20:40am

re: #347 BakaRanger

Weren't we sort of hoping for the bill to be trimmed? It seems only to have gotten larger. The markets might react poorly to this reality.

I am telling you, these criminals are not going to get away with this.

They have shit on the process.

This may be the needed fire in Republicans and voters' bellies to take back Congress in '10.

352 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:21:22am

re: #348 redc1c4

but Juggy said that he'd let America have days to comment on important bills before they were signed.......

/white smoke

Well, he is giving us the whole weekend to look it over!

///

353 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:21:24am

re: #350 pink freud

It was great seeing you pink! Wish you could have stayed longer. Hope all is well with you and yours! :-)

354 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:21:34am

re: #350 pink freud

Good night all! I wish you all a wonderful weekend :-)

Good night! Sleep well!

355 TheMatrix31  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:21:40am

re: #342 littleoldlady

Matrix! :-)

WOW. Great buy!

re: #346 pink freud

Sugarland's a nice place. I am surprised, I thought real estate values there and here (Lafayette) would be similar ....that *is* a great price!

I've been pushing for my family to move to Texas for YEARS now. California is in ruin, it's only going to get worse. We need a place to properly raise my little brother and sister. We have a big family (six people still in the house). A house like this would be PERFECT. My Dad hasn't been working for quite some time, and my Mom's been dying just to pay ridiculous amounts of rent for a piece of crap, broken down house here in Los Angeles.

That price, for that type of house, in that suburb of Houston....it's just, it's painful to see these houses coming around and not being able to do anything about them.

356 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:22:53am

re: #341 redc1c4

i was a career E-4, without demotions.

(impossible, i know, but i did it anyway. %-)

I remember.

If you were my go to guy, I would've kept you anyway I could. A pay raise would've been nice though.

E-4 was the best rank to be IMHO. Just enough seniority to not be picked for shit jobs, and not enough to be responsible for much.

357 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:23:40am

re: #340 BakaRanger

NYSE was down about 80 points today- I'm surprised it wasn't in the triple digits. CNN had the rather amusing headline that read something like 'Stocks down despite House approving Stimulus bill'

I'm not sure it's despite

358 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:24:24am

re: #357 Fenway_Nation

NYSE was down about 80 points today- I'm surprised it wasn't in the triple digits. CNN had the rather amusing headline that read something like 'Stocks down despite House approving Stimulus bill'

I'm not sure it's despite

If the markets take a tremendous dump again nest week- I wonder how they will spin this?

359 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:24:36am

next

360 BakaRanger  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:24:51am

re: #351 astronmr20

I hope the hell you are right. Although it does seem that most Americans have a very short attention span and will forget all of this soon.

361 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:25:01am

re: #344 gmsc

The futures seemed to suggest that the markets were holding their breath today, and will drop sharply on Monday, when the bill is signed.

Yaaaaay, my 401k will be glad to hear that. What's left of it anyway :(

362 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:26:40am

re: #361 x-wing

Yaaaaay, my 401k will be glad to hear that. What's left of it anyway :(

I figure, while the market is down, it's a great time to put money into companies you expect to stay around in the long term. Motley Fool is a great help here.

363 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:27:00am

re: #351 astronmr20

Our government - both parties - is completely broken. We need a new party, and (whaddayaknow!) I just happen to be the chairman of it:

The ThrowTheBumsOut Party.

/okay, so it's a single issue party. the electorate might actually understand it!

364 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:27:24am

re: #362 gmsc

I figure, while the market is down, it's a great time to put money into companies you expect to stay around in the long term. Motley Fool is a great help here.

I still wouldn't encourage anyone to dump their 401k...

365 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:27:45am

re: #363 littleoldlady

Our government - both parties - is completely broken. We need a new party, and (whaddayaknow!) I just happen to be the chairman of it:

The ThrowTheBumsOut Party.

/okay, so it's a single issue party. the electorate might actually understand it!

Where do I donate?

366 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:28:12am

re: #363 littleoldlady

Our government - both parties - is completely broken. We need a new party, and (whaddayaknow!) I just happen to be the chairman of it:

The ThrowTheBumsOut Party.

/okay, so it's a single issue party. the electorate might actually understand it!

...and more importantly, what is your position on the fruitcup issue?

367 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:28:57am

re: #358 astronmr20

It's all Rush Limbaugh's fault?

368 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:30:14am

re: #365 astronmr20

A fruitcup in every pot!

/and my PayPal account is waiting...

369 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:30:36am

re: #362 gmsc

I figure, while the market is down, it's a great time to put money into companies you expect to stay around in the long term. Motley Fool is a great help here.

Maybe Utilities are the way to go- no matter how shitty the economy gets, people still need electricity. Plus some of them pay a dividend...

370 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:31:19am

re: #12 zeebeach

Insomnia. Woke up on the sofa with FoxNews on and realized the Dems have sold the country. Unfeakinbelievable!

Who bought it? China?

371 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:31:20am

Obligatory mouse loves kitty video:

372 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:32:12am

re: #369 Fenway_Nation

Maybe Utilities are the way to go- no matter how shitty the economy gets, people still need electricity. Plus some of them pay a dividend...

Look at US industries that China needs for its own stimulus package.
Those would be the way to go.

373 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:32:39am

Anyone heard about the new Logo for the US.

374 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:32:46am

re: #362 gmsc

I figure, while the market is down, it's a great time to put money into companies you expect to stay around in the long term. Motley Fool is a great help here.


Well I hope Fidelity is on top of this,cuz I'm not stock savvy to say the least.

375 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:32:47am

re: #367 Fenway_Nation

It's all Rush Limbaugh's fault?

376 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:33:09am

re: #361 x-wing

Yaaaaay, my 401k will be glad to hear that. What's left of it anyway :(

Weren't the Demonrat Senators talking about confiscating 401(k)'s anyway?

377 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:36:25am

re: #368 littleoldlady

A fruitcup in every pot!

/and my PayPal account is waiting...

Can I get you next week LoL, I'm thinking I'm a little short right now ;>}

BTW, the fruitcup is outstanding today. Did you add something different today?

378 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:36:30am

re: #356 x-wing

I remember.

If you were my go to guy, I would've kept you anyway I could. A pay raise would've been nice though.

E-4 was the best rank to be IMHO. Just enough seniority to not be picked for shit jobs, and not enough to be responsible for much.

yeah.... that's why when McBirdbrain relieved *my* 1SG for *his * incompetence i was left to run the HHT LOGPAC's all by myself....... nothing like showing up at a cluster..... excuse me.... meeting where you're the rep for the senior unit and the junior person attending.....

379 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:36:35am

re: #372 Hengineer

Such as?

/Can't believe we're so joined at the hip economically w/the ChiComs, although after our 'stimulus' passes, I don't think the 'Coms' part is fair to the Chinese.

380 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:36:58am

The 3 asshats in senate still crossing the aisle? Or have Collins, Snowe, and Specter finally grown brains and are doing the right thing in not voting for the porkulous bill?

381 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:38:01am

re: #370 Hengineer

Who bought it? China?

Probably. But they're not happy about it.

"We hate you guys. Once you start issuing $1 trillion-$2 trillion... we know the dollar is going to depreciate, so we hate you guys but there is nothing much we can do....
382 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:38:15am

re: #370 Hengineer

Who bought it? China?

"We hate you guys"

Luo Ping, a director-general of the China Banking Regulatory Commission, explaining how China feels about having to continue to buy U.S. Treasuries:

"We hate you guys. Once you start issuing $1 trillion-$2 trillion... we know the dollar is going to depreciate, so we hate you guys but there is nothing much we can do....

383 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:38:56am

re: #369 Fenway_Nation

Maybe Utilities are the way to go- no matter how shitty the economy gets, people still need electricity. Plus some of them pay a dividend...

I'm waitng for the caps. to be lifted next year. We may need to invest in the just to make up for the rate increases.

384 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:39:52am

re: #377 x-wing

x-wing! :-)

CHOCOLATE! Of course.

/littleoldlady's Survival Plan™

wahabi! :-)

You beat me to it... ;-)

385 TheMatrix31  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:39:53am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the bill have passed even if Snow, Collins, and Specter didn't vote for it?

386 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:40:21am

re: #377 x-wing

Can I get you next week LoL, I'm thinking I'm a little short right now ;>}

BTW, the fruitcup is outstanding today. Did you add something different today?

yes, we did........

/white smoke

387 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:42:19am

re: #385 TheMatrix31
Snow Specter and Collins give it 61 votes in the senate which is neough to break a republican filibuster.

388 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:42:19am

re: #385 TheMatrix31

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the bill have passed even if Snow, Collins, and Specter didn't vote for it?

no: it needs at least 60 votes, iirc.

389 TheMatrix31  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:42:49am

re: #387 Rustler

Snow Specter and Collins give it 61 votes in the senate which is neough to break a republican filibuster.

Oh, that's right. I knew there was some sort of technicality, it was just slipping my mind.

390 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:42:52am

re: #384 littleoldlady

x-wing! :-)

CHOCOLATE! Of course.

/littleoldlady's Survival Plan™

...and Afrocity's too!
re: #259 Afrocity

I am turning in guys I just made some s'mores and a cup of hot chocolate, I got my cat here in bed all snugg, and comfy

391 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:42:55am

re: #385 TheMatrix31

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the bill have passed even if Snow, Collins, and Specter didn't vote for it?

Simple majority, yes, but the prevailing attitude seems to be that they need 60 votes to "get anything done around here".

392 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:43:42am

re: #390 gmsc

Oh! Oh! A newbie? :-)

393 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:44:11am

re: #389 TheMatrix31

Plus Obama and Pelosi need Republican names on it as scapegoats when this Porkulous blows up in their faces so they can call it a bipartisan effort.

394 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:44:48am

re: #378 redc1c4

yeah.... that's why when McBirdbrain relieved *my* 1SG for *his * incompetence i was left to run the HHT LOGPAC's all by myself....... nothing like showing up at a cluster..... excuse me.... meeting where you're the rep for the senior unit and the junior person attending.....

Red, when the shit hits the fan I want you in the foxhole right there with me.

/and no I'm not hitting on you ;>}

purple smoke

395 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:44:55am

re: #384 littleoldlady

morning sweetie!

396 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:45:56am

We ever get a final tally for the Feb 12 troll hunt? Looked like were were set to do a deck of cards worth for a while?

397 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:46:00am

re: #392 littleoldlady

Oh! Oh! A newbie? :-)

and a cutie too, if you can trust a picture on the net.

/cynical

398 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:46:07am

re: #374 x-wing

Well I hope Fidelity is on top of this,cuz I'm not stock savvy to say the least.

If it's any help, I think you can safely scratch Caterpillar off the list of potential stock buys:

399 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:46:19am
400 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:46:40am

re: #392 littleoldlady

Oh! Oh! A newbie? :-)

Yep - you just missed her.

401 Render  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:47:31am

re: #304 Pietr

Lemme guess, XP/Pro IE7?

Same thing has happened to me a few times.

On the really long threads I get what can only be described as gaming lag. Which is kinda frustrating since I'm using a very fast custom built gaming rig.

DIGITAL
DEATH
DEALER,
R

402 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:49:12am

W00t! Karma's past 1500 now....

403 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:49:18am

re: #401 Render

Lemme guess, XP/Pro IE7?

Same thing has happened to me a few times.

On the really long threads I get what can only be described as gaming lag. Which is kinda frustrating since I'm using a very fast custom built gaming rig.

DIGITAL
DEATH
DEALER,
R

Getamac (:


My 5 year-old G5 does fine on 1,300 plus comment threads.

404 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:49:48am

re: #384 littleoldlady

It's yummy. But it ....o.k. red what's the rye taste about?

405 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:49:56am

re: #399 Arkay
I'd say it's 1 which is why he doesn't post anti christian stuff here he only posts with reference to the DI's psuedo science. I can't answer for Charles tho.

406 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:50:29am

re: #402 Fenway_Nation

W00t! Karma's past 1500 now....

Congrats!

I just noticed mine passed 5,000 recently.

407 Render  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:50:53am

re: #403 astronmr20

No games. No Mac.

ERGO,
R

408 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:51:37am

BRB running security checks etc.

409 Arkay  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:51:52am

re: #391 littleoldlady


They needed 60 votes for cloture on filibustering.

So guess what. The bill is glued to the GOP. It will be ll OUR fault when it goes to shit.

410 songbird  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:52:22am

re: #406 gmsc

Congrats!

I just noticed mine passed 5,000 recently.

What's a girl got to do to get a little karma around here! :-)
I've been on LGF for years and I'm still under 200!

411 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:53:23am

re: #385 TheMatrix31

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the bill have passed even if Snow, Collins, and Specter didn't vote for it?

If and when Teddy comes back they will only 2 of our dipship RINOs.

But then again if Teddy can't come back,whoever the Gov. appoints well, they'll still only need2 of our dipshit RINOs.

412 songbird  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:54:07am

re: #409 Arkay

They needed 60 votes for cloture on filibustering.

So guess what. The bill is glued to the GOP. It will be ll OUR fault when it goes to shit.

I'm hoping in two years time the Republicans can wrest the majority from the Dems and start reversing some of the Pelosi/Reid/Obama Follies.

413 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:54:29am

re: #407 Render

No games. No Mac.

ERGO,
R

If you'll allow me to debunk your argument from 1995, there are plenty of games on the Mac.

Also, since the Mac can easily run Linux, Windows, OS X, or just about any other operating system you care to throw at it, you can run their games, too.

414 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:56:22am

re: #394 x-wing

Red, when the shit hits the fan I want you in the foxhole right there with me.

/and no I'm not hitting on you ;>}

purple smoke

since i have no intention of being in a foxhole, you could have saved the purple smoke, as there is an ongoing shortage in that line item at the unit level......

however, the fallacy of the fixed defense is so well known that expecting me to be anywhere but in the mobile defense/attack is to ignore Guderian, Rommel, Paton and Air Land Battle......but then again, i was just an e-4, so what could i possibly know?

415 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:56:48am

re: #396 Rustler

We ever get a final tally for the Feb 12 troll hunt? Looked like were were set to do a deck of cards worth for a while?

I asked that night never got an answer. It was headed for a bloodbath. Reminds me of a song.

/the freaks come out at night

416 freetoken  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:57:29am

re: #399 Arkay


*Those advocates of "intelligent design" are in fact not true Christians, but heretics, advocating a fundamentalist Bibliocentric view of the Creation not supported by the facts.

Well, they may not be "true" Christians in your eyes, but at least they don't sprinkle their babies!


/runs for cover....

417 gmsc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:57:34am

Good night, all!

Happy Valentine's Day!

Happy Birthday, Ohio, Arizona, and League of Women Voters!

418 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:58:28am

re: #410 songbird

What's a girl got to do to get a little karma around here! :-)
I've been on LGF for years and I'm still under 200!


Just ask sweetie.

/you don't mind me calling you sweetie just this once?

419 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:58:39am

Fenway! :-)

Congrats!

/man, I'm a KarmaSlacker! :-/

420 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:59:03am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

421 songbird  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:59:17am

re: #418 x-wing

Just ask sweetie.

/you don't mind me calling you sweetie just this once?

I rarely mind being called 'sweetie'! Thanks!

422 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:59:20am

re: #413 gmsc

If you'll allow me to debunk your argument from 1995, there are plenty of games on the Mac.

Also, since the Mac can easily run Linux, Windows, OS X, or just about any other operating system you care to throw at it, you can run their games, too.

gmsc, if they claim anything about no games on a MAC, they're referring to POWER games, like Crysis, Far Cry 2, upcoming Empire: Total War, and such.

Speaking as a power gamer who purchased a 17.1" Clevo D901C Laptop with 1920x1200 Resolution, Intel Core 2 Extreme xv6800 (About 2.9 Ghz), Dual nVidia 9800M GT in SLI, 3 Seagate 200 GB IDD's, 2 2GB Kingston DDR2 RAM sticks, and including an internal Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Burner/Reader, I really don't think anything Apple puts out can come close to my machine.

423 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:59:48am

re: #421 songbird

I rarely mind being called 'sweetie'! Thanks!

"sweetie"

/ducks and runs

424 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:00:28am

re: #406 gmsc

Upon further reflection, I probably would've reached the 1500 milestone sooner if I didn't post that link about Sen. Leahy's proposed 'Truth and Reconciliation' Comittee...

425 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:05:09am

rack time for this old Cav Trooper

hasta y'all..................

L8r!

426 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:05:12am

re: #130 Pietr

I thought that GOP thong took care of everything? Call Maintenance-let's get this thing fixed.....as an electronic maintenance tech type, I'd volunteer, but the missus would object....:>))

GOP Thong?

Didn't know they sold those, might have to buy one for my gf.

427 Render  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:05:14am

re: #413 gmsc

I don't mean to burst yer bubble but the handful of Mac users that show up in COD4 or COD/WAW get waxed very quickly and usually go away mad.

Furthermore, those Macs that actually can run the COD series use PC based video cards (usually the Nvidia 8800 series) to do so. Have fun getting an XFX 9800GTX (1 meg) video card to work though...

You are, of course, more then welcome to show up on the servers that I play on (DSSG) and attempt to prove me wrong.

I'M
A
PRO,
R

428 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:05:28am

re: #425 redc1c4

rack time for this old Cav Trooper

hasta y'all..................

L8r!

Laidher!

429 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:06:31am

re: #427 Render

I don't mean to burst yer bubble but the handful of Mac users that show up in COD4 or COD/WAW get waxed very quickly and usually go away mad.

Furthermore, those Macs that actually can run the COD series use PC based video cards (usually the Nvidia 8800 series) to do so. Have fun getting an XFX 9800GTX (1 meg) video card to work though...

You are, of course, more then welcome to show up on the servers that I play on (DSSG) and attempt to prove me wrong.

I'M
A
PRO,
R

I'm with you bro, I have a Clevo laptop myself. Look up @re: #422 Hengineer
;)

430 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:06:41am

'Night, red! :-)

431 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:07:30am

Not sure if this floats anyones boat but "A Slobbering Love Affair" might be a good read. Linked to the Amazon page tho I'm not sure Charles gets anything from them anymore.

432 songbird  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:07:58am

re: #428 Hengineer

Still working on the MSC ships?

433 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:08:03am

re: #414 redc1c4


Well I'd want you beside me. How's that. Right now I'm looking at protecting the homeland, specifically my own home, if things get real ugly here in the USA.

I hope it doesn't happen,but I'm trying to prepare for it.

434 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:08:35am

re: #432 songbird

Still working on the MSC ships?

yep, on the USNS Kanawha still

435 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:09:27am

re: #421 songbird

I rarely mind being called 'sweetie'! Thanks!

Well then you get a little more karma ;>}

436 Hengineer  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:09:33am

And I should prob get going, we have an early callout for an UNREP and the Chief tends to use the ERC Computer during UNREPs.

Have a good day everyone

437 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:09:41am

re: #431 Rustler

A fitting read for Valentine's Day...

438 songbird  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:09:55am

re: #434 Hengineer

yep, on the USNS Kanawha still

Do you do the 4 month on/4 month off rotation?

439 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:10:36am

re: #425 redc1c4

rack time for this old Cav Trooper

hasta y'all..................

L8r!


Later red

440 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:10:56am

Btw the Local news today had a quick blurb about the volume of letters they have received in hte past couple weeks complaining about failure to use the title President every time they mention Obama's name in a story. According to the newscaster they always use the title for first mention in a story but it is acceptable to just say Mr. Obama after. 8 years of hearing just plain Bush on hte news and never saw a statement like that coming on 3 weeks of the big 0 and it comes out already.

441 songbird  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:10:58am

re: #436 Hengineer

And I should prob get going, we have an early callout for an UNREP and the Chief tends to use the ERC Computer during UNREPs.

Have a good day everyone

Too late for me to talk about Merchant Seamen! Rest well!

442 Arkay  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:13:08am

What's a girl got to do to get a little karma around here! >

Well, if you want to lose some, come out of the closet as a theist.

443 songbird  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:13:09am

re: #440 Rustler

Btw the Local news today had a quick blurb about the volume of letters they have received in hte past couple weeks complaining about failure to use the title President every time they mention Obama's name in a story. According to the newscaster they always use the title for first mention in a story but it is acceptable to just say Mr. Obama after. 8 years of hearing just plain Bush on hte news and never saw a statement like that coming on 3 weeks of the big 0 and it comes out already.

I guess it's not just me noticing Obama's lack of decorum. Does anyone have the link about Obama replacing the Marine Corp Band with a Jazz Pianist?

444 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:13:18am

re: #426 Hengineer

GOP Thong?

Didn't know they sold those, might have to buy one for my gf.

Take your pick.

[Link: clothing.cafepress.com...]

445 Arkay  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:14:04am

sprinkling babies>

Well, if some people want to risk their newborns' eternal souls, that's not MY problem....

446 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:14:45am

re: #431 Rustler


Still rated pretty high; looks like you got to it before the 0bamatons and Kostards did.....

447 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:15:48am

re: #436 Hengineer

later Hen

448 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:18:43am

Haha O reilly has rove on atm talking about the Leahy/cheney incident. Guess leahy was talking about Cheney benefitting from the war via Halliburton so cheney told him to F' off.

449 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:20:04am

re: #440 Rustler

And here I thought all that Pres-Elect shit before he took office was enough to make me barf. Now they aren't calling him Pres. enough.

/good thing I'm not near any sharp objects

450 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:20:14am

re: #443 songbird They weren't attacking Obama's lack of decorum they were commenting on the News not giving Obama the proper respect. Yet there was never a like movement for Bush.

451 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:21:56am

re: #446 Fenway_Nation
Yeah the high rating gave me some willies like maybe it's a trojan horse. I still might buy it tho can't say it's good or bad having not read it yet just saw an advertisment for it.

452 songbird  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:22:24am

re: #450 Rustler

True. Although it seems that President Obama likes the prestige of the office and the recognition and power it affords, but not the Ceremony and, for lack of a better term, Patriotism that usually surrounds the office.

453 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:22:41am

re: #422 Hengineer

gmsc, if they claim anything about no games on a MAC, they're referring to POWER games, like Crysis, Far Cry 2, upcoming Empire: Total War, and such.

Speaking as a power gamer who purchased a 17.1" Clevo D901C Laptop with 1920x1200 Resolution, Intel Core 2 Extreme xv6800 (About 2.9 Ghz), Dual nVidia 9800M GT in SLI, 3 Seagate 200 GB IDD's, 2 2GB Kingston DDR2 RAM sticks, and including an internal Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Burner/Reader, I really don't think anything Apple puts out can come close to my machine.

Let's run some benchmarks, then. (:

454 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:23:49am

re: #452 songbird We(lizards) knew that when he was still running for office. Sad that most of the country didn't however. Now get to work we don't want to make you late.

455 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:24:25am
456 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:24:34am

re: #448 Rustler

Haha O reilly has rove on atm talking about the Leahy/cheney incident. Guess leahy was talking about Cheney benefitting from the war via Halliburton so cheney told him to F' off.


Well the clean version was Cheney told Leahy to "stick his penis in his anus"

/it really works either way I guess ;>}

457 songbird  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:26:11am

re: #454 Rustler

It's already late, and I have a three day weekend. Today is a packing party for my household. On top of that, I'm going to invite some friends to help me celebrate the fact that I passed my German Content Knowledge test and am now qualified to teach German as well as Music.

458 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:26:55am

re: #451 Rustler


There's also this from the 'reccomended' link

459 Render  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:28:57am

Coolermaster Centurian 5 case with two 120mm case fans.
Antec True Power 1000 watt power supply.
Intel Extreme Mobo w/ Intel Extreme 3.4gig Dual Core (true dual, not Duocore).
Geminii twin 120mm fan CPU cooler.
2gig Corsair Heatspreader RAM.
Single XFX 9800 GTX (1gig). (only one PCI-E slot)
Soundblaster 24bit HD. (a retread from my last rig)
Twin 150gig WD Raptor 10,000rpm hard drives. (RAID 1)
Single 500gig stand alone Fantom Drive.
Lightscribe DVD (another retread).
Generic CD (another retread).
90mm hard drive fan.
twin 90mm card slot fans (still more retreads).
Thermaltake four channel fan controller (waste of money, I leave all the fans on high all the time).
Single 90mm fan tie-wired to the front of the case.
Single Samsung 906BW 2ms 19 inch widescreen.
Razor Deathadder wired gaming mouse.
MS/Razor Reclusa wired gaming keyboard.
Rocketfish 7G20A gaming headphones.

Fan total - four 120mm, six 90mm.

Built to kill and stay cool.

AKA
THE
MAUS,
R

460 x-wing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:32:08am

re: #452 songbird

The only thing that surrounds that office now is Obamas' ego.

He will meet with the opposition and if they don't agree and go along with him they are the ones being partisan.

We've got a long 4 years coming, but we already knew that.
Just glad his supporters are starting to see it too.

461 astronmr20  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:34:06am

re: #459 Render

Coolermaster Centurian 5 case with two 120mm case fans.
Antec True Power 1000 watt power supply.
Intel Extreme Mobo w/ Intel Extreme 3.4gig Dual Core (true dual, not Duocore).
Geminii twin 120mm fan CPU cooler.
2gig Corsair Heatspreader RAM.
Single XFX 9800 GTX (1gig). (only one PCI-E slot)
Soundblaster 24bit HD. (a retread from my last rig)
Twin 150gig WD Raptor 10,000rpm hard drives. (RAID 1)
Single 500gig stand alone Fantom Drive.
Lightscribe DVD (another retread).
Generic CD (another retread).
90mm hard drive fan.
twin 90mm card slot fans (still more retreads).
Thermaltake four channel fan controller (waste of money, I leave all the fans on high all the time).
Single 90mm fan tie-wired to the front of the case.
Single Samsung 906BW 2ms 19 inch widescreen.
Razor Deathadder wired gaming mouse.
MS/Razor Reclusa wired gaming keyboard.
Rocketfish 7G20A gaming headphones.

Fan total - four 120mm, six 90mm.

Built to kill and stay cool.

AKA
THE
MAUS,
R

Now the raptor 10k rpm drives... that's impressive!

If you are on XP, that's indeed a mean machine.

462 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:38:27am
463 HelloDare  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:39:50am

If I had my life to live over again, I would have made a rule to read
some poetry and listen to some music at least once a week.

-- Charles Darwin

464 songbird  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:40:12am

re: #460 x-wing

The only thing that surrounds that office now is Obamas' ego.

He will meet with the opposition and if they don't agree and go along with him they are the ones being partisan.

We've got a long 4 years coming, but we already knew that.
Just glad his supporters are starting to see it too.

It is a shame that the first African American president has to be this incompetent, but I think many Americans thought he would be based on a documented lack of leadership experience.

The "Egg of Power" is going to end up as egg on the face of his supporters.

465 Render  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:43:39am

re: #461 astronmr20

XP Pro SP3.

Ironically, I'm close to a bottom feeder rig wise in Dssg. My motherboard and CPU are circa 2004.

VISTA
STINKS,
R

466 Render  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:44:56am

re: #462 ploome hineni

Trolling. It doesn't seem to notice my icon.

GAZED,
R

467 Throbert McGee  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:45:27am

re: #442 Arkay

What's a girl got to do to get a little karma around here! >

Well, if you want to lose some, come out of the closet as a theist.

What a heavy, heavy cross you bear! But remember Matthew 5:11 and be comforted:

"Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and downding you, for my sake."

468 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:46:43am
469 Render  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:49:20am

re: #468 ploome hineni

Not all bad, considering.

I'm an obedience person, breed is not my thing.

Need a Schipperke.

BADLY,
R

470 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:51:39am
471 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:53:20am

re: #442 Arkay

472 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:53:57am

re: #471 sattv4u2

GAAAHH ,,,, someone ate my post

473 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:54:12am

Well Arkay's supposedly innocent question is turning into her being a very poor but polite troll from the looks of subsequent posts so.


/green smoke target is illuminated(while it may still be nice tender troll veal)

474 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:55:08am

re: #472 sattv4u2
Al Gore did he is entitled to eatting random leavings on the Interweb since he invented it.

475 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:55:30am

re: #442 Arkay

What's a girl got to do to get a little karma around here! >

3 Rules for that

RULE #1,,, NEVER EVER ask for some
RULE #2,,, Post something either A) cogent or B) Funny
RULE #3,,, If ruke #2 fails ,,, revert to Rule #1

476 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:56:32am

re: #474 Rustler

Al Gore did he is entitled to eatting random leavings on the Interweb since he invented it.

Al Gore ,,,, BYTE ME ~~

477 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:57:48am

re: #475 sattv4u2
She can also avoid shoehorning the collective intellect here as being anti theistic. A goodly number of folks here are believers they just understand that science and religion aren't mutually exclusive.

478 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:58:41am

re: #476 sattv4u2
What you want to lose another post?

479 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:59:27am

Al Gore ,,,,,, John Coleman (founder of the Weather Channel) would like a word with you!

In years past he has called global warming “the greatest scam in history” and has called for suing Al Gore and others that hype the theory in order to force a debate on the merits of it.


[Link: www.examiner.com...]

480 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:00:11am

re: #477 Rustler

She can also avoid shoehorning the collective intellect here as being anti theistic. A goodly number of folks here are believers they just understand that science and religion aren't mutually exclusive.

you just described ME!

481 Render  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:02:14am

re: #470 ploome hineni

Considering the state of the union.

I've always had a Schipperke. I'm overdue for #3 but still searching.

Absolutely. Luckily we have a regular house guest Schipperke for daycare, so I get a daily fix on weekdays. He, of course, gets the extreme privilege of hanging with me when he's here - in the Dobersafe zone.

As soon as Wordpress gets done screwing around with whatever update they screwing around with, I'm going to post some pix of my boys (and their cats) on my bloglet.

JUST
CUZ,
R

482 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:03:22am
483 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:03:23am

re: #480 sattv4u2
Well damn I was trying to describe myself. My belief structure is more Deiestic than any widely recognized modern religion. I believe in a higher power I attribute to that higher power such things as science is currently unable to explain(I.E. where did the initial matter or energy in the cosmos come from) but my God doesn't demand of me he observes like any good scientist what his experiment(earth) is doing without interferring to get his desired results.

484 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:03:34am

re: #481 Render

I'm going to post some pix of my boys

ummm,,,,, eerrrrrr ,,,,,,, I didn't think this was that kinda site !

//

485 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:05:16am
486 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:05:22am

re: #482 ploome hineni
I now regret having answered her first question no clue why I am trying to give this troll a female pronoun.

487 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:09:01am

re: #486 Rustler

I now regret having answered her first question no clue why I am trying to give this troll a female pronoun.

Perhaps her/ his bio on his/ her log in. A male more than likely qwouldn't have used the term "peacekeeper" in describing his role in a combat zone.

488 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:09:31am
489 coquimbojoe  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:12:37am

re: #486 Rustler

I now regret having answered her first question no clue why I am trying to give this troll a female pronoun.

A troll? Are there some gamey buttocks to be had?

I am religious, always have been. I look at things two ways: I don't look for signs or 'proof' to substantiate my FAITH, and I fervently believe all truth comes from God. So, when science discovers something, I think it is just revealing more of His great creation (that includes the elegance of evolution). It might make me seem bipolar to some, but it brings me peace.

490 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:12:49am

re: #487 sattv4u2
Didn't even read the bio it was more a cadence issue in it's typing.

491 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:13:26am

Well, it appears that the cats have determined that I am not allowed to sleep, as their food bowls are empty, and therefore I must be awakened to feed them.

Heh. They forget: I can choose when to feed them. They are going to wait a while for waking me so early.

492 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:14:43am

re: #489 coquimbojoe
Arkay may end up being a troll. First asks an innocous question maybe having heard from someone Charles want anti religion. I tryed answering her question she comes back asking for updings while in the same breath disparraging the lizard community for downdinging theists.

493 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:17:18am

re: #491 vxbush

Well, it appears that the cats have determined that I am not allowed to sleep, as their food bowls are empty, and therefore I must be awakened to feed them.

Heh. They forget: I can choose when to feed them. They are going to wait a while for waking me so early.

heh ,,,, YOU forget ,,, THEY WOKE YOU !

//

494 coquimbojoe  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:18:25am

re: #492 Rustler

Arkay may end up being a troll. First asks an innocous question maybe having heard from someone Charles want anti religion. I tryed answering her question she comes back asking for updings while in the same breath disparraging the lizard community for downdinging theists.

It amazes me that people don't get it. Theists aren't down-dinged here for being religious. They are downdinged for being strident and spewing crap everywhere - the same goes for non-'theists'.

Her/His/its question of 'what Charles "really' fears' is inane at best. It is all over this blog. Islamofascism and nonsense portraying itself as science to the detriment of our children.

495 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:18:43am

re: #493 sattv4u2

heh ,,,, YOU forget ,,, THEY WOKE YOU !

//

Heh. True. But now they must wait on ME. There is a price to pay for waking me so early, you see.

496 coquimbojoe  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:19:30am

I go beddy bye now, Happy Valentines Day Lizardim. Ploomie, the card is in the mail!

497 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:19:35am

HA!

498 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:19:57am

Good morning, Lizards.

499 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:20:15am

re: #483 Rustler

I'm not religious at all but I have experienced some really weird, unexplainable shit from when I was "this high" so I suspect that we really don't know diddley about how the Universe works. Put me down in the "better safe than sorry" column.

500 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:20:51am

re: #494 coquimbojoe What amazes me is it's been registered since 2007 and still doesn't understand. I pretty much got the tone of this place within an hour or 2 of reading posts my first day.

501 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:20:55am

re: #498 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

Goddess! Look just above your posting....

502 Crux Australis  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:21:23am

I am a Christian. What kind of things are off limits for discussion on LGF so I don't accidently seem like I'm a troll. I value my account at LGF.

503 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:22:21am

re: #495 vxbush

Heh. True. But now they must wait on ME. There is a price to pay for waking me so early, you see.

Uh, I wouldn't go there if I were you...

504 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:23:36am

re: #502 Crux Australis No clue but according to Arkay we should downding you for being a believer.

505 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:23:42am

re: #503 goddessoftheclassroom

Uh, I wouldn't go there if I were you...

I sent that one to my husband as a warning.

506 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:25:12am

re: #502 Crux Australis

I am a Christian. What kind of things are off limits for discussion on LGF so I don't accidently seem like I'm a troll. I value my account at LGF.

...sex, drugs, rock 'n roll, politics and puns. Never "pun"! Ever!

507 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:26:03am

re: #502 Crux Australis

I am a Christian. What kind of things are off limits for discussion on LGF so I don't accidently seem like I'm a troll. I value my account at LGF.

{Crux Australis}

The only topic I know of Charles asks we avoid is abortion. Honest debate on other topics is fine--it's personal attacks that are not welcome.

Frankly, I avoid the evolution/ID threads because I feel some people equate believing in a Creator with stupidity, but that's my choice.

Also, I maintain the Lizard Prayer List, which I post at least once a week on Sundays. I'll post it in a minute so you can see what it looks like.

508 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:27:29am
509 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:28:31am

Lizard Prayer List 2/14/09
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope

Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.

Community issues:
Australia fighting wild fires
Our country going forward
Our troops
Israel
Georgia/Ossetia
Gilad Schalit, for his release.
The contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

Thanksgivings

knitwit: mother’s peaceful passing after long illness
HoosierHoops: son Jordan deployed to Japan instead of Afghanistan & grandchild on the way
BaseballMom57: husband recovering at home
Vxbush: health issues diagnosed
Wolfie: nephew (USAR-spec ops) got home from Iraq a couple of months ago safe and sound, and he and his wife are expecting their second child.
eschew_obfuscation: family’s health and happiness
Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke, practically fully recovered
Loppyd: future plans

Health issues:
bbuddha: mother-in-law not eating or drinking
Hoppes: has sick children, lost her MIL, and is very stressed
Kenneth: mom diagnosed with cancer and has been told she has a matter of weeks left.
UberInfidel67: brothers health after polyps removal
Aussiemagpie: children with health issues
Walter Cronanty: son with recurrence of leukemia & recovering from bone marrow transplant.
logboy: recovery from injuries received in combat in Iraq
Dublin(CA)Dude – extensive cancer
gettinby: sister diagnosed with Sjogren’s Syndrome
Yochanan: d-i-l (ronite bas golda) undergoing surgery.
Knitwit: niece Elizabeth has a nasty MRSA infection after orthopedic surgery
tfc3rid: gf's 89 year old grandmother (suffered a a large stroke and is in rehab) and her uncle who is suffering from throat cancer; and continued prayers for dad who has MS
Typicalwhitey: father’s undergoing tests for pancreatic cancer
MNsnowlizard: Had open heart surgery in February (35 years old) and could be facing another one
twincitiesgirl: husband fighting cancer
Cato the elder: health issues
mikeymom: sister suffered a stroke
Josephine: daughter diagnosed with rare, chronic illness
yma o hyd: dear friend Anne has a blood disorder
jamsler: sister, just diagnosed with thyroid cancer; father, getting biopsy of a possible malignancy in his throat.
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
gop_patriot: friend’s 8-year-old son starting chemo
Pingjockey: friend Bob with a carcinoma, recovering from surgery
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: metastasizing cancer; mom Type II diabetes
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
loppyd: step-father back in the hospital
Macker: health issues and treatment
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain, having gone from bad to worse
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
/cont’d

510 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:28:44am

Lizard Prayer List, cont’d:
Family, friend, and life situations:
Safe travels for those traveling to lobby for Heart Defect Research 2/10/09
Lizards in need of particular career opportunities.
Vxbush: two Lizard friends dealing with big issues
Army Green since '92: post has lost three soldiers in Afghanistan; friends deploying there next week.
yma o hyd: ease the grief of friend who lost her husband of 59 years
Taqiyyotomist: strength in difficult times
FBV: that the unknowns find fulfillment
Vxbush: daughter’s financial issues
Yochanan: son in IDF
Bcgirl: sponsored child, Alia in Egypt
Wyatt Earp: Uncle Joe; prostate cancer returned
West Texas: brother’s decision
Victor_yugo: job
laZardo: strength of purpose
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey: mom home from the hospital but may be regressing
A Kiwi Infidel: Natasha and her husband mourning the loss of the younger child.
MandyManners: finding answers and solutions
neocon hippie: grieving for big black kitty, Ripple
Cast Iron Magnolia: nephew, David, who's a Marine serving in Iraq
HHC 2-2 SCR: for those we lost and their family and friends and for thanks for those that are finally back and one for the safety of those still waiting to return.
lightsout: to make a wise decision
BeerDrinking VictoryMonkey: strength to overcome a personal issue, and for wisdom in discerning another one
Flynmudd: son deployed to Middle East
x-wing: son diagnosed with Asperger’s (mild autism)
Mars Needs Neocons: job
jcm: previous foster daughters going back with families; new 5-week-old foster daughter.
Pvt Bin Jammin: best friend’s passing
Josephine: painful loss
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: strength for kids and her dealing with EH.
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general

511 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:29:06am

re: #502 Crux Australis

I am a Christian. What kind of things are off limits for discussion on LGF so I don't accidently seem like I'm a troll. I value my account at LGF.

Nothing is "off limits", but if you insist that ID be taught in public school science class, be prepared to catch some flak, to say the least

512 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:30:16am

re: #506 AuntAcid

...sex, drugs, rock 'n roll, politics and puns. Never "pun"! Ever!

I only pun for fun , and never in the sun

513 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:30:47am

re: #508 goddessoftheclassroom

I know you've probably seen this one, but I wanted to send it to you anyway, especially after your rough day yesterday.

{goddess}

Thanks, dear! Yes, that was cute.

My husband got me a Kermit the Frog card. Nothing special, but it was really cute and it also made me feel better last night.

514 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:32:27am

re: #512 sattv4u2

"Will work for puns."

515 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:35:01am

It's 4:30 am here in the PNW. Why are you up and where are you?

516 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:36:01am

re: #515 AuntAcid

It's 4:30 am here in the PNW. Why are you up and where are you?

who ,, me ? I'm in Atlanta, at work (overnight shift). Been here since 10 pm last night. Am here till 10 this morning (7;35 here now)

517 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:36:05am

I didn't go out and party last night. Feel pretty solid good for a Saturday morning. Hi Y'all!

518 Crux Australis  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:36:36am

re: #511 sattv4u2

Nothing is "off limits", but if you insist that ID be taught in public school science class, be prepared to catch some flak, to say the least

That's good. I live in Australia and creationism and ID are not taught in PUBLIC schools and no one is pushing for creationism and ID to be taught at all. Christian independent schools are another story altogether.

519 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:36:39am

re: #515 AuntAcid

It's 4:30 am here in the PNW. Why are you up and where are you?

I'm getting ready to teach an SAT prep class here in Western Pennsylvania.

520 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:36:41am

Welcome FVB

(and a belated welcome and { } to Goddess)

521 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:37:53am

re: #518 Crux Australis

That's good. I live in Australia and creationism and ID are not taught in PUBLIC schools and no one is pushing for creationism and ID to be taught at all. Christian independent schools are another story altogether.

Where, may I ask. Thats one place in the world I've always wanted to go too. Wifey, however wants to "do" Paris.

522 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:38:36am

re: #515 AuntAcid

It's 4:30 am here in the PNW. Why are you up and where are you?

Because the cats demanded to be fed. And I'm in central Illinois. And I couldn't get back to sleep.

523 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:39:52am

re: #519 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm getting ready to teach an SAT prep class here in Western Pennsylvania.

So you're going to SIT for a SAT class!?!?!?

524 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:39:56am

Well, dear Lizards, I must get ready. Take care!

525 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:41:29am

re: #524 goddessoftheclassroom

Well, dear Lizards, I must get ready. Take care!

{MWAH}!

526 gregg  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:42:31am

re: #522 vxbush

Because the cats demanded to be fed. And I'm in central Illinois. And I couldn't get back to sleep.

Cats need to be fed in the middle of the night? I didn't know that (probably because I'm highly allergic to cats).

527 Crux Australis  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:42:32am

re: #521 sattv4u2

Where, may I ask. Thats one place in the world I've always wanted to go too. Wifey, however wants to "do" Paris.

On the outskirts of Sydney (about 30 miles from the downtown).

528 freetoken  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:42:32am

re: #502 Crux Australis

I am a Christian. What kind of things are off limits for discussion on LGF so I don't accidently seem like I'm a troll. I value my account at LGF.

Doomer porn is off the table.

Anything that could be construed as wishing, hoping, or predicting elected officials' demise is also off the table, I believe.

There are others no doubt... and I also doubt you'd be one who would be likely to post such stuff.

529 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:43:19am

re: #523 sattv4u2

So you're going to SIT for a SAT class!?!?!?

There you go again. What did I tell you about puns? Go to your room! No dinner for you! Jeesh!

530 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:43:58am

re: #526 gregg

Cats need to be fed in the middle of the night? I didn't know that (probably because I'm highly allergic to cats).

Oh, no. Need to be fed is wrong. Demanding, whining, pleading, begging to be fed is more accurate.

We feed our cats twice a day. They apparently think this is half as often as we should be feeding them.

531 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:44:30am

re: #529 AuntAcid

There you go again. What did I tell you about puns? Go to your room! No dinner for you! Jeesh!

I have twinkies hidden under my pillow

532 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:44:35am

re: #528 freetoken

Doomer porn is off the table.

Anything that could be construed as wishing, hoping, or predicting elected officials' demise is also off the table, I believe.

There are others no doubt... and I also doubt you'd be one who would be likely to post such stuff.

Oh, and revolution. Charles has stated pretty clearly that folks pushing for revolution will be banned.

533 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:45:06am

re: #527 Crux Australis

On the outskirts of Sydney (about 30 miles from the downtown).

...and do ya wear a slip with that skirt, matey?

534 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:45:34am

re: #531 sattv4u2

I have twinkies hidden under my pillow

Wow. I bet they don't taste as good smashed.

535 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:46:55am

re: #532 vxbush

Oh, and revolution. Charles has stated pretty clearly that folks pushing for revolution will be banned.


Then how will I ever talk about my LP collection!?!?!?! OR ,,, the regular maintenance of the tires on my car!?!?!?!?!

536 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:47:09am

re: #534 vxbush

Wow. I bet they don't taste as good smashed.

I have a light head!

537 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:47:34am

re: #534 vxbush

Wow. I bet they don't taste as good smashed.

Why ,,, you swallow them WHOLE!?!?!?

538 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:50:23am

re: #537 sattv4u2

Why ,,, you swallow them WHOLE!?!?!?

I never touch Twinkies. I'm a chocolate cupcake kind of gal.

539 Crux Australis  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:50:23am

re: #533 AuntAcid

...and do ya wear a slip with that skirt, matey?

I personally wear jeans and trousers as I am a male.

The outskirts I'm thinking about are 5 and 10 acre properties and sheep, cattle, horses and chicken farms.

540 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:53:12am

re: #539 Crux Australis

I personally wear jeans and trousers as I am a male.

The outskirts I'm thinking about are 5 and 10 acre properties and sheep, cattle, horses and chicken farms.

Any plans for Bush Week?

541 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:55:00am

BRB ,,,, gotta make a pot of WakeMeUp

542 hellosnackbar  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:57:08am

re#58 tackle
Why not ID and creationism packaged up with "Easter bunny"and Mother goose" studies just to add a little gravitas to a full university degree.
After all,sociology has now attained academic status.
re #181 dusty vet
That's Parkinson's law pure and simple and still an ongoing reality'
(look up Professor Northcott Parkinson)as he exposes the bureaucrat's "raison d'etre".
And thanks to all Lizard's tropes contributions.
Best laugh I've had for a long time.

543 Crux Australis  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:58:17am

re: #540 AuntAcid

Any plans for Bush Week?

I don't live in the outback or a country town. The center of Sydney is just over an hours drive.

544 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:58:18am

re: #541 sattv4u2

BRB ,,,, gotta make a pot of WakeMeUp

Tea sounds good, but that would require that I actually get up. And if I do that, I'll make noise. And that will wake the son up, which would wake the hubby up, and hubby is already cranky today and back in bed.

Hope, I think I'll stay here for now.

545 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:58:29am

re: #502 Crux Australis

I am a Christian. What kind of things are off limits for discussion on LGF so I don't accidently seem like I'm a troll. I value my account at LGF.

It seems to be a wise decision not to complain to Charles about the content of his site.

Lizard Cemetery is has an entire section of those misguided (dumb) ones who have ceased to be.

546 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:59:00am

Night all signing off an hour before shift is up today since guests are talkative today. Happy valentine's day and be safe.

547 gregg  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:59:27am

I think the peanut butter salmonella outbreak is also off limits, but I could be wrong.

548 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:59:58am

GAH--my fingers have decided to type independently of rational thought. That was supposed to say, "Nope, I think I'll stay here for now."

I'm afraid the fingers are going to start an insurrection.

549 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:00:24am

re: #545 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
FBV before I leave did you see the new national seal/logo i posted upthread?

550 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:01:30am

re: #547 gregg

I think the peanut butter salmonella outbreak is also off limits, but I could be wrong.

Why. Is Stinky's relative Image: File:Mr_peanut.png ?

551 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:01:52am

re: #539 Crux Australis

I personally wear jeans and trousers as I am a male.

The outskirts I'm thinking about are 5 and 10 acre properties and sheep, cattle, horses and chicken farms.

In my part of the planet, 5 or 10 acre plots are considered evil and the developers are "encouraged" to build on 4-5000 sq. ft lots so we are forced to live "asshole to belly button."

552 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:02:29am

re: #548 vxbush

GAH--my fingers have decided to type independently of rational thought. That was supposed to say, "Nope, I think I'll stay here for now."

I'm afraid the fingers are going to start an insurrection.

Hope

OR ,,, your indoctrination has started!

553 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:02:39am

re: #549 Rustler

Where?

554 gregg  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:03:47am

re: #550 sattv4u2

Sorry, just my stupid sense of humor. I've been told it's very dry.

555 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:04:09am

re: #552 sattv4u2

Hope

OR ,,, your indoctrination has started!

Egads! You mean my fingers are listening to OBAMA!?!?

It may be time to retype some speeches of Reagan's to re-educate them.

556 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:04:10am

re: #554 gregg

Sorry, just my stupid sense of humor. I've been told it's very dry.

so's Image: File:Mr_peanut.png

557 gregg  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:05:20am

re: #556 sattv4u2

so's [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

That's dry roasted humor!

558 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:06:12am

re: #557 gregg

That's dry roasted humor!

Eh, don't butter him up.

559 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:06:25am

re: #545 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It seems to be a wise decision not to complain to Charles about the content of his site.

Lizard Cemetery is has an entire section of those misguided (dumb) ones who have ceased to be.

I have 2 strikes so I count "10" before posting... would really hate being "eighty-sixed".

560 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:07:20am

re: #373 Rustler Here.

561 SnoozeAlarm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:09:02am

In a previous thread, I made reference to a recent article by George Will. In that article, Will claims that for Darwin, evolution and belief in God are mutually exclusive. Here is the article.

I made that post because I have seen Charles post many times on this website a saying highly critical of such a position.

My post received a high number of negs, and a few very hostile replies from one poster, and I am mystified. I am genuinely interested in hearing people articulate what they found offensive about my post.

Let me clarify what claims I am NOT making:

1. I am NOT saying that George Will personally believes that evolution and belief in God are mutually exclusive.

2. I am NOT saying that Geoge Will rejects evolution. (I have read him state on at least one occasion that evolution is a foregone conclusion.)

3. I am NOT saying that Darwin himself believed that evolution and belief in God are mutually exclusive. (In other words: I am not saying that Darwin actually believed what Will thinks he believed -- although I am not ruling out that possibility, but it's not of paramount importance to me.)

4. I am NOT saying that the mere fact that Will states that Darwin held that belief in God and evolution to be mutually exclusive, that this constitutes any evidence whatsoever that such a position is correct or that such an interpretation of Darwin is correct.

5. I do NOT have any hidden agenda. (Read: I am not a Creationist who is planning on using this post as a springboard for rejecting evolution.)

My only point here is this: for George Will, a man whose intellect I respect greatly, the view that evolution and belief in God are indeed mutually exclusive is not a view to ridicule. He presents this view respectfully, and does NOT dismiss it as nonsense.

And I think that this meta-question about evolution is a fascinating and important question: are there serious minds out there who do indeed believe that belief in God and evolution are mutually exclusive?

I know for example that Charles Krauthammer, the two notions are most definitely compatible. He posits evolution as God's elegant means of creating the world.

But I am very curious whether it is universally held among the great, serious, honest minds that belief in God and evoution are compatible.

562 Crux Australis  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:09:41am

re: #551 AuntAcid

In my part of the planet, 5 or 10 acre plots are considered evil and the developers are "encouraged" to build on 4-5000 sq. ft lots so we are forced to live "asshole to belly button."

I wouldn't be surprised if sometime in the not too distant future my area is developed. The edge of suburbia is only 6 miles away as the crow flies.

As you would imagine fertile farming areas are a premium in Australia (only about 9% of Australia is arable). It seems stupid that governments would allow sprawl to go over this precious commodity in western Sydney.

563 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:10:15am

re: #559 AuntAcid

I have 2 strikes so I count "10" before posting... would really hate being "eighty-sixed".

Hmmm,,,, maybe we should start a "Death Count Credit' (ala Al Gores Carbon Credit) program.
Those on the precipice of getting whacked can buy a credit from a lizard in good standing! In exchange, the "selling" lizard could have the 'buying" lizard perform some task for them!

564 Ojoe  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:11:52am

The Big Bang is a great design.

565 Ojoe  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:14:11am

re: #502 Crux Australis

It is important to distinguish between islam and muslims in general here.

566 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:14:19am

re: #564 Ojoe

The Big Bang is a great design.

They said the same thing about the Edsel

//

567 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:14:27am

Break time.

568 Ojoe  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:18:18am
569 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:19:50am

re: #568 Ojoe

Then there is the Citroen DS

I prefer [Link: www.time.com...] for MY coffin!

570 nonic  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:20:32am

Hi, guys.

The movie "Marley and Me" is available for pre-order at amazon. But they have two versions, one called the "Bad Boy" edition. Anyone know what that means? I don't see any clues on the two pages.
regular [Link: www.amazon.com...]
bad boy [Link: www.amazon.com...]

571 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:21:28am

re: #562 Crux Australis

Many farmers struggle a life-time to make a go of their land. Their kids want no part of farm life and go off to the city to find easier work so when the parents are worn out and want to retire they could sell to developers and finally get enough money to enjoy a decent retirement but the local gov. want to preserve the land for city folk to drive about and enjoy the rural landscape.

572 Ojoe  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:23:56am

re: #569 sattv4u2

Here is another unintelligent design, the Renault Dauphin.

Now I'm going to go back to sleep.

BBL

573 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:27:26am

Insufficient Evidence Could Force U.S. Navy to Return Suspected Pirates to Somalia

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

And closing Gitmo is good idea why?

574 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:28:38am

This is from WND but you have to at least look at the picture - if it wasn't so sad - it would be hilarious.

Bookstore Features Books About Obama Under "Religion"

575 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:28:53am

re: #573 Nevergiveup

Insufficient Evidence Could Force U.S. Navy to Return Suspected Pirates to Somalia

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

And closing Gitmo is good idea why?

WASHINGTON — Questions emerged Friday about whether the U.S. Navy can continue to hold a group of suspected pirates captured on the high seas and kept for now in floating jail cells ringed with barbed wire.

Release them and let them walk home!

576 nonic  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:30:28am

Point of information for city folks: an acre is roughly 40,000 square feet or a plot of land 200' x 200'.

577 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:31:16am

re: #573 Nevergiveup

Insufficient Evidence Could Force U.S. Navy to Return Suspected Pirates to Somalia

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

And closing Gitmo is good idea why?

It's a ploy by the "pirates". They are just trying to get a free pass to Minneapolis.

578 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:33:05am

re: #577 AuntAcid

It's a ploy by the "pirates". They are just trying to get a free pass to Minneapolis.

I've been to Minneapolis. There's more to do in the floating jail cells !

JUST KIDDING for any Minny Lizards!

579 freetoken  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:33:48am

re: #561 SnoozeAlarm

[...] the view that evolution and belief in God are indeed mutually exclusive is not a view to ridicule. He presents this view respectfully, and does NOT dismiss it as nonsense.

The Lao of Stinky, as it has been presented on this website, is a statement of passivity. That is, it takes a non-combatant role, simply saying that doors of possibility could remain open for those who want to hold to both a belief in God and acceptance of evolution.

The Lao of Stinky does not actively make a statement regarding what George Wills was discussing.

Yes, there are some atheists out there who maintain that acceptance of evolution must necessitate non-belief in a God (as presented by practicing theists, as opposed to the more philosophical God of Spinoza and Einstein.)

580 nyc redneck  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:34:04am

re: #574 monkeytime

This is from WND but you have to at least look at the picture - if it wasn't so sad - it would be hilarious.

Bookstore Features Books About Obama Under "Religion"

over 47% of americans are getting more and more incensed by the spectacle that is the O.

581 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:34:08am

re: #574 monkeytime

This is from WND but you have to at least look at the picture - if it wasn't so sad - it would be hilarious.

Bookstore Features Books About Obama Under "Religion"

I'll go to my local Borders on the way home and see if it's the same there. If so, i'll move as many as I can to the Sci Fi section!

582 gregg  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:34:14am

I'm doing my taxes and normally I worry that I'm messing something up. This year, thanks to Turbo Tax Timmy, I don't give a rat's butt.re: #577 AuntAcid

It's a ploy by the "pirates". They are just trying to get a free pass to Minneapolis.

Don't send 'em here, they belong in Pittsburgh.

583 Rustler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:34:48am

re: #570 nonic Bad boy edition is the 2 disc special edition likely has some extra footage and 2nd disc will have the Making and some other goodies usually.

584 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:35:48am

re: #582 gregg

I'm doing my taxes and normally I worry that I'm messing something up. This year, thanks to Turbo Tax Timmy, I don't give a rat's butt.

Don't send 'em here, they belong in Pittsburgh.

Ladies and Gentlemen, may I present your next Cabinet Appointee,, GREGG !

585 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:36:39am

re: #581 sattv4u2

I'll go to my local Borders on the way home and see if it's the same there. If so, i'll move as many as I can to the Sci Fi section!

I like that plan.

586 thefallingman  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:38:35am

Just so everybody's tracking, Fat Tuesday or Shrove Tuesday or Beouf Gras or Mardi Gras or whatever you want to call it, is only 10 days away. LAISSEZ LES BON TEMPS ROULER!

587 gregg  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:39:11am

re: #584 sattv4u2

Whoops, I mixed a couple of posts together. The "Don't send 'em here, they belong in Pittsburgh." was suppose to be a reply to the pirates story. The taxes bit has nothing to do with pirates (on second thought, it's just a different type of pirate).

588 freetoken  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:39:44am

re: #561 SnoozeAlarm

If I might draw an analogy...

There is a difference (for some purposes) between saying:
1) A is impossible; and
2) A is not proved possible.
(where A is some proposition.)

Likewise, there is a difference between what the Lao of Stinky allows and the proposition that Wills is examining.

589 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:42:49am

re: #587 gregg

I know. I still say let them (the pirates) walk home from the floating jail cells

590 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:43:59am

This will make you puke your coffee.


Breaking Intelligence Report: Obama to Drop Sanctions On Iran

Sorry if it has already been posted.

591 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:44:24am

re: #587 gregg

Whoops, I mixed a couple of posts together. The "Don't send 'em here, they belong in Pittsburgh." was suppose to be a reply to the pirates story. The taxes bit has nothing to do with pirates (on second thought, it's just a different type of pirate).

we just figured it was part of your plan to reduce your carbon fingerprint.

592 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:44:33am

re: #589 sattv4u2

I know. I still say let them (the pirates) walk home from the floating jail cells

I don't know but where are the Battleships when you got such good target barges?

593 nonic  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:45:58am

re: #583 Rustler

Yeah, I just went back and looked. The "bad boy" says 2 discs while the other says 1. (Yet the regular costs $2 less. Both of them are pretty pricey, actually.) So, they could just SAY what they mean and not confuse the old ladies!

Thanks, by the way. :-)

594 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:47:10am

re: #590 Dar ul Harbarian

This will make you puke your coffee.


Breaking Intelligence Report: Obama to Drop Sanctions On Iran

Sorry if it has already been posted.

It;s the old Carrot/ Stick stratergy. Only this time, Obama is giving Iran the carrot, and then they'll stick it to us!

595 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:48:02am

re: #590 Dar ul Harbarian

This will make you puke your coffee.


Breaking Intelligence Report: Obama to Drop Sanctions On Iran

Sorry if it has already been posted.

I find that very hard to believe and my expectations of this Administration are pretty low

596 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:50:26am

re: #594 sattv4u2

It;s the old Carrot/ Stick stratergy. Only this time, Obama is giving Iran the carrot, and then they'll stick it to us!

It's amazing how few people it takes to really screw things up and bring a great country to it's knees.
"History, repeat thyself!"

597 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:50:51am

re: #590 Dar ul Harbarian

This will make you puke your coffee.


Breaking Intelligence Report: Obama to Drop Sanctions On Iran

Sorry if it has already been posted.

And Syria too! The O says sanctions are not working anyway. Let's nurse and feed the baby that will grow to destroy Isreal and everyone else that it can. Brilliant!

598 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:51:33am

[Link: www.boston.com...]

MOUNT HOLLY, N.C. - The man who led a Ku Klux Klan chapter in North Carolina that was involved in a deadly 1979 clash with members of the Communist Workers Party has died

Enjoy HELL, Virgil

599 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:51:51am

re: #595 Nevergiveup

I find that very hard to believe and my expectations of this Administration are pretty low

Normally I would agree, but this administration has shown a pretty severe lack of judgment so far.

600 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:52:34am

Good Morning Lizards! Watching Freedom writers with hilary Swank.
Seems pretty good so far...Don't tell me the ending!
How is everyone today?

601 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:54:02am

re: #600 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards! Watching Freedom writers with hilary Swank.
Seems pretty good so far...Don't tell me the ending!
How is everyone today?

Sleepy. Cats holding last night's sleep as a hostage in exchange for food.

602 lincolntf  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:54:35am

re: #590 Dar ul Harbarian

How scary is it that our best hope for an Iran hawk in this Administration is freakin' Hillary Clinton? We are sca-rewed.

Morning all.

603 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:54:40am

re: #600 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards! Watching Freedom writers with hilary Swank.
Seems pretty good so far...Don't tell me the ending!
How is everyone today?

in the end everyone dies...at least that's my plan.

604 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:54:41am

re: #600 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards! Watching Freedom writers with hilary Swank.
Seems pretty good so far...Don't tell me the ending!
How is everyone today?

Counting down the last hour at work. How's by thee?

605 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:54:53am

Hey Hossier. Another day, another "THEY DID WHAT?" in politics.

606 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:58:30am

re: #605 monkeytime

Hey Hossier. Another day, another "THEY DID WHAT?" in politics.

...that'd be WTF friday.

607 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:58:47am

re: #604 sattv4u2

Counting down the last hour at work. How's by thee?

Hi VX,Satt,Auntie..
Doing great..burning a few hours till we go shopping..We are doing our part to stimulate the economy...

608 Bob Z  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:59:35am

Good Morning and welcome to the Socialist States Of Obamaland

609 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:00:12am

re: #605 monkeytime

Hey Hossier. Another day, another "THEY DID WHAT?" in politics.

Are you calling me a hossier? LOL

610 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:02:08am

Johnson - this thread:

Our strategy has been to change the subject a bit so that we can get the issue of intelligent design, which really means the reality of God, before ....

Huckabee - from last night's thread:

... that’s what we need to do — to amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than try to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view.


Rhetorical questions for Huckabee and company:

How are these any different from the politicized Islamist, Salafist, mindset?
How, in principle, does the D.I.'s strategy differ from CAIR's?

... and finally ...

Since when does God depend upon your specific worldly help, to the exclusion of all others' ?

611 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:03:08am

re: #607 HoosierHoops

Hi VX,Satt,Auntie..
Doing great..burning a few hours till we go shopping..We are doing our part to stimulate the economy...

Thats like Wifey and me. I told her I refuse to be part of this recession. From 2 months ago and planned within the next 3 months
Bought a new vehicle.
Kitchen countertops to be changed to granite
New Washer/ Dryer
New Hot Water heater
Trip to Boston (home to see the family)
Kids tuition to private high school for 2009-2010
New laptop by summer

612 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:03:23am

re: #609 HoosierHoops

Are you calling me a hossier? LOL

LOL! Sorry - still drinking the coffee ;>)

613 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:03:31am

re: #601 vxbush

Sleepy. Cats holding last night's sleep as a hostage in exchange for food.

How are you doing this AM?
Migraine gone?

614 SurferDoc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:04:31am

Greetings from the chilly Mojave where only the coffee is hot this morning.
Are we still a Republic?

615 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:05:53am

re: #614 SurferDoc

Greetings from the chilly Mojave where only the coffee is hot this morning.
Are we still a Republic?

About half the nation is.

The rest is a cult.

616 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:06:31am

Erdogan, in an interview with Reuters and two Turkish newspapers late on Friday said the results of the Israeli elections this week, showing gains by right-wing parties, had "painted a very dark picture" for the future.


[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Interesting view of a sovereign country's democratic election, but then it's Turkey?

617 srb1976  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:07:43am

Morning, folks! Sitting in a dark house trying to type quietly because there is someone asleep in every room besides bathroom and kitchen.

What's new?

618 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:08:33am

re: #616 Nevergiveup

Erdogan, in an interview with Reuters and two Turkish newspapers late on Friday said the results of the Israeli elections this week, showing gains by right-wing parties, had "painted a very dark picture" for the future.


[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Interesting view of a sovereign country's democratic election, but then it's Turkey?

I'd like to see the Turkish Army's opinion, as point-counterpoint.

619 SurferDoc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:09:59am

Considering the caliber of people who don't like the Israeli election results, they must be even better than I thought.

620 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:10:00am

re: #617 srb1976

Morning, folks! Sitting in a dark house trying to type quietly because there is someone asleep in every room besides bathroom and kitchen.

What's new?

Read this and go back to bed

re: #590 Dar ul Harbarian

This will make you puke your coffee.


Breaking Intelligence Report: Obama to Drop Sanctions On Iran

Sorry if it has already been posted.

621 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:10:27am

re: #614 SurferDoc

Greetings from the chilly Mojave where only the coffee is hot this morning.
Are we still a Republic?

Just curious. Are you down in the Edwards AFB end of it?
My mother lived and worked in Ridgecrest/NWC for years.

622 Luigi  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:11:32am

President Obama continues to take our foreign policy in directions that are either badly misguided or guided by serious badness.

Breaking Intelligence Report: Obama to Drop Sanctions On Iran
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

623 srb1976  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:12:09am

re: #620 Dar ul Harbarian

how reliable is that? rather a disgusting thought first thing in the morning

624 Luigi  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:12:40am

Sorry, Dar, to step on you link.

625 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:13:03am

re: #611 sattv4u2

Thats like Wifey and me. I told her I refuse to be part of this recession. From 2 months ago and planned within the next 3 months
Bought a new vehicle.
Kitchen countertops to be changed to granite
New Washer/ Dryer
New Hot Water heater
Trip to Boston (home to see the family)
Kids tuition to private high school for 2009-2010
New laptop by summer

Good on you and ours..I ain't hiding under the bed..
/In freedom writers she takes the kids to the Holocaust museum..Dang moving.

626 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:13:10am

re: #622 Luigi

President Obama continues to take our foreign policy in directions that are either badly misguided or guided by serious badness.

Breaking Intelligence Report: Obama to Drop Sanctions On Iran
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

What's in those thin, cylindrical, things he smokes?

627 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:13:37am

re: #623 srb1976

how reliable is that? rather a disgusting thought first thing in the morning

I don't know how reliable it is but I have been sensitized to insanity coming from the White House recently.

628 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:13:38am

re: #622 Luigi

President Obama continues to take our foreign policy in directions that are either badly misguided or guided by serious badness.

Breaking Intelligence Report: Obama to Drop Sanctions On Iran
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

In other news,,,,
President Obama announced today, due to his aversion to cold weather, he is moving the White House to a warmer climate
Havana Cuba is the odds on front runner

629 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:14:30am

re: #624 Luigi

Sorry, Dar, to step on you link.

No problem. I've done it before.

630 SurferDoc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:14:39am

re: #621 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Just curious. Are you down in the Edwards AFB end of it?
My mother lived and worked in Ridgecrest/NWC for years.

Yes, I am right down there. I drive past Edwards on the way to my weekend place. I was a contractor to the China Lake NWC for a few years, too. It was NAWS then.

631 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:14:48am

re: #625 HoosierHoops

Mornin', Hoops!
Was last night filled with nightmares of routers and switches? ... (-:

632 srb1976  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:15:08am

re: #627 Dar ul Harbarian

I don't know how reliable it is but I have been sensitized to insanity coming from the White House recently.

is anything other that insanity coming from the white house these days?

633 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:16:36am

re: #631 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Mornin', Hoops!
Was last night filled with nightmares of routers and switches? ... (-:

Morning Brat! LOL
Nothing a few bud lights can't cure..I almost forgot friday the 13th at work..thanks for that...;)

634 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:18:31am

re: #630 SurferDoc

Yes, I am right down there. I drive past Edwards on the way to my weekend place. I was a contractor to the China Lake NWC for a few years, too. It was NAWS then.

I don't know the genealogy of the base. IIRC, it was NOTS when she first moved there. Maybe that was the airfield/range part of it, not the design center.

I was up there several times in the mid-60's, including once when my squadron went for 2 weeks of bombing practice.

635 srb1976  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:20:09am

Friday the 13th has got nothin'. My better half decided to give me my valentines gift early......lovely purple sapphire tennis bracelet. Today, though I get to take the Little Man to get a haircut to which he is violently opposed, and also scared of......much scarier than superstitious bad luck

636 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:21:18am

re: #618 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'd like to see the Turkish Army's opinion, as point-counterpoint.

Personally I think the days of the Turkish Army taking control have Long since past. But that's just my opinion.

637 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:22:20am

re: #633 HoosierHoops

Morning Brat! LOL
Nothing a few bud lights can't cure..I almost forgot friday the 13th at work..thanks for that...;)

I've been doing hardware mods on a group of prototypes (electronics OEM stuff). I'm cool, though busy. The two guys dealing with the firmware are pulling their hair out.

/software is the Dark Side

638 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:23:55am

re: #616 Nevergiveup

Erdogan, in an interview with Reuters and two Turkish newspapers late on Friday said the results of the Israeli elections this week, showing gains by right-wing parties, had "painted a very dark picture" for the future.


[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Interesting view of a sovereign country's democratic election, but then it's Turkey?

The NYT has a puff piece today on a Turkish/Jewish business man's view

What are you afraid of?

HIS Jewishness did affect him, and in many ways was the reason that his beginnings were so humble. His father, a yarn importer, lost everything in 1942 when Turkey imposed the infamous Wealth Tax. While its stated aim was to fill state coffers during World War II, larger amounts were levied on non-Muslims, like Jews, Armenians and Greeks. It was widely seen as a racist attempt to diminish the economic power of minorities in Turkey.

'minorities'? No. Try 'non-muslim'.

639 SurferDoc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:24:01am

re: #634 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I don't know the genealogy of the base. IIRC, it was NOTS when she first moved there. Maybe that was the airfield/range part of it, not the design center.

I was up there several times in the mid-60's, including once when my squadron went for 2 weeks of bombing practice.

It was NOTS in the beginning, NAWS in the eighties, NWC recently, and at least one other acronym somewhere along there. It is a fascinating place, BTW. Lots of interesting research goes on there.

640 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:24:11am

re: #636 Nevergiveup

Personally I think the days of the Turkish Army taking control have Long since past. But that's just my opinion.

I've picked up those vibes too. However, I hope that if worst-case occurs ....

641 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:25:53am

re: #640 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I've picked up those vibes too. However, I hope that if worst-case occurs ....

What's the worst case scenario? Turkey is Islam"s key to Europe and they ain't letting go so easy.

642 gregg  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:26:22am

re: #609 HoosierHoops

Are you calling me a hossier? LOL

Once I called someone from Indiana an Indianan and she just about bit my head off. Lesson learned.

643 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:26:50am

re: #635 srb1976

lovely purple sapphire tennis bracelet

W00T!

644 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:27:17am

Last update - 11:03 14/02/2009

U.S., EU indicate they prefer Kadima-Likud unity government in Israel

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

I preferred a Duncan Hunter Administration, but that didn't work out so great?

645 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:27:35am

re: #642 gregg

Once I called someone from Indiana an Indianan and she just about bit my head off. Lesson learned.

Which head?

646 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:28:11am

re: #639 SurferDoc

Lots of interesting research goes on there.

PLEASE do not tell me!
(*grin*, I've never worked in the DOD-related sector, but I know about "black programs".)

Thanks for the history. I thought NOTS was right for way back then.

647 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:28:30am

re: #635 srb1976

Friday the 13th has got nothin'. My better half decided to give me my valentines gift early......lovely purple sapphire tennis bracelet. Today, though I get to take the Little Man to get a haircut to which he is violently opposed, and also scared of......much scarier than superstitious bad luck

Isn't that hard to hit with the racket?

648 srb1976  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:28:49am

re: #643 wahabicorridor

yep, he's a good one, decided that since both kids are september babies, I just HAD to have some sapphire jewelry....what a guy = )

649 srb1976  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:29:50am

re: #647 sattv4u2

Isn't that hard to hit with the racket?

It is, but so worth the trouble = )

650 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:30:12am

re: #641 Nevergiveup

What's the worst case scenario? Turkey is Islam"s key to Europe and they ain't letting go so easy.

Worst case would be if Ataturk's legacy (secular gov't/society) gets thrown under the bus by Erdogan and company.

651 Marvo76  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:30:18am

re: #632 srb1976

Bullshit seems to be in good supply, maybe they can fertilize the fields of america instead of trying to feed it to us directly...

652 srb1976  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:32:01am

Well folks, Her Royal stoutness calls.... later all

653 Marvo76  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:32:03am

Hoosier, I sent you an email last night on your sight, I noticed the difference, the address I tried the other night that bounced has a small letter and the other that went thru was a capitol letter, you might check it on your site

654 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:33:25am

re: #648 srb1976

yep, he's a good one, decided that since both kids are september babies, I just HAD to have some sapphire jewelry....what a guy = )

Mine's a good one too.

When we were dating I told him "Honey, when you propose - AT CHRISTMAS - I don't need a ring."

Too much money, to my mind. But he thought I just didn't like rings.

I got a diamond tennis bracelet instead! We were married in June. He figured out I had no problems with rings, so that Christmas he gave me a 1.5 carat oval engagement ring.

I'm loaded.

655 Marvo76  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:33:45am

re: #650 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hopefully there is still enough secular leaning army to prevent that, but with the rise of the madrass schools, the new generations coming in are not as secular as they once were.....

656 SurferDoc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:34:38am

re: #646 pre-Boomer Marine brat

PLEASE do not tell me!
(*grin*, I've never worked in the DOD-related sector, but I know about "black programs".)

Thanks for the history. I thought NOTS was right for way back then.

I heard some hair-curling stories back in the day. I'd never put any of them in print.

657 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:34:57am

re: #655 Marvo76

Hopefully there is still enough secular leaning army to prevent that, but with the rise of the madrass schools, the new generations coming in are not as secular as they once were.....

Yes.

658 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:35:05am

re: #654 wahabicorridor

I'm loaded.

I can't type as well as you when I'm loaded!

(hell ,,, I can't type that well SOBER !)

659 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:35:06am

re: #650 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Worst case would be if Ataturk's legacy (secular gov't/society) gets thrown under the bus by Erdogan and company.

That's what I see coming down the road.

660 Marvo76  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:35:46am

re: #654 wahabicorridor

My wife was one of those practicle gals..."I don't need a diamond" that right there told me enough about her so I literally taped the engagement ring to the end of my nose and proposed....

661 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:36:00am

re: #653 Marvo76

Hoosier, I sent you an email last night on your sight, I noticed the difference, the address I tried the other night that bounced has a small letter and the other that went thru was a capitol letter, you might check it on your site

Good morning! My nic is blue..Send the email to this address..The emails to my charity get read by friends and family...there is no real expectation of the normalcy of privacy in an email..
Regards

662 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:38:27am

Such sweet stories.

Told my wife, "If you're crazy enough to marry me, then we're made for each other."

663 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:38:54am

How To Combat Government School Indoctrination

Start em young

[Link: boortz.com...]

664 Mich-again  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:39:05am

re: #610 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Since when does God depend upon your specific worldly help, to the exclusion of all others' ?

Excellent point. How vain it is for humans to think the creator needs their assistance.

665 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:39:32am

re: #660 Marvo76

My wife was one of those practicle gals..."I don't need a diamond" that right there told me enough about her so I literally taped the engagement ring to the end of my nose and proposed....

ROTFLMAO!

Today we're taking The Fat Beagle to doggy day care and going on a lunch date. Wait till I tell him your story!

666 SlartyBartfast  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:39:52am

re: #622 Luigi

President Obama continues to take our foreign policy in directions that are either badly misguided or guided by serious badness.

Breaking Intelligence Report: Obama to Drop Sanctions On Iran
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

From the article:

Obama decided to end sanctions against Iran after determining that the U.S. measures had failed to block Teheran's missile or nuclear weapons program, officials said. Under the administration of former President George Bush, the United States accelerated sanctions on Iran in 2008.

I feel like a passenger on a 777 who's just been informed that the pilot is handing over the controls to a 3-year-old...

667 Natasha  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:40:09am

Good morning everyone! No Valentines stuff for this convinced bachelorette. However, I have a wine recommendation. The wine I had with dinner yesterday surprised the heck out of me, in a good way. It is from a winery that is literally right by where I am currently stationed. St. James winery in MO. It is, in scientific terms DA BOMB!

668 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:40:38am

Miami swoons over its hometown hero

Miami hero Alex Rodriguez jokes about his steroid situation

[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

By all means keep him!

669 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:41:57am

re: #656 SurferDoc

I heard some hair-curling stories back in the day. I'd never put any of them in print.

A good friend (and recent hatchling here) had his first job as a EE at China Lake. He was working with a gray-headed engineer one day, completed his immediate task, and quipped, "Close enough for government work."

The older guy turned to him and said ... very quietly ...
... "We don't say that here."

My friend (who's now 20 years into the industry) told me that he just about croaked.

670 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:41:59am

re: #666 SlartyBartfast

I feel like a passenger on a 777 who's just been informed that the pilot is handing over the controls to a 3-year-old...

Yeah the big difference is that a 777 has a pretty good auto-pilot, but this administrations does not.

671 ciaospirit  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:42:07am

Make no mistake. Michelle says she's going to make sure life for her daughters is as normal as possible.

Miley Cyrus is used to traveling with lots of security, but one of her upcoming stops may involve the Secret Service.

The 16-year-old has been invited to screen her upcoming movie, "Hannah Montana: The Movie" for First Daughters Sasha and Malia Obama, reports The Insider.

672 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:43:42am

re: #659 Nevergiveup

That's what I see coming down the road.

I'm afraid you're probably right. Erdogan's gov't seems to be undermining the Army's periodic "purges" (moving out the extremists.)

673 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:44:12am

"stinkulus" passes...What would Charlie Brown say?

674 Mich-again  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:44:23am

re: #666 SlartyBartfast

Obama decided to end sanctions against Iran after determining that the U.S. measures had failed to block Teheran's missile or nuclear weapons program, officials said. Under the administration of former President George Bush, the United States accelerated sanctions on Iran in 2008.

If Obama ends sanctions on Iran it will be a huge victory for the Mullahs and a disaster for dissidents in Iran.

675 Cathypop  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:44:24am

re: #671 ciaospirit

Make no mistake. Michelle says she's going to make sure life for her daughters is as normal as possible.

Something tells me that Michelle does not invite but demands your presence.

676 Natasha  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:44:57am

re: #670 Nevergiveup

Yeah the big difference is that a 777 has a pretty good auto-pilot, but this administrations does not.

There is a Russian joke to that extent. A plane crashes in the middle of nowhere... Search party retrieves the Black Box and listens to the recording: "This is the commander... I'm drunk!
This is the Co-pilot... I'm drunk!" Then a pause and: "This is the autopilot... I'm drunk!".
I realize it is a lot funnier in Russian and when you're.... drunk!

677 Bloodnok  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:46:11am

re: #667 Natasha

Good morning everyone! No Valentines stuff for this convinced bachelorette. However, I have a wine recommendation. The wine I had with dinner yesterday surprised the heck out of me, in a good way. It is from a winery that is literally right by where I am currently stationed. St. James winery in MO. It is, in scientific terms DA BOMB!

Is it Valentines Day already? BAH, HUMBUG!

/bachelor

678 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:46:14am

re: #667 Natasha

Good morning everyone! No Valentines stuff for this convinced bachelorette. However, I have a wine recommendation. The wine I had with dinner yesterday surprised the heck out of me, in a good way. It is from a winery that is literally right by where I am currently stationed. St. James winery in MO. It is, in scientific terms DA BOMB!

Ahhh heck..there is no way they make great wine in MO. It's against the law!
was it as red or white wine?

679 Natasha  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:47:32am

re: #678 HoosierHoops

It was a dry red, and it went fantastically with the Porterhouse steak. I also smoked a Cohiba afterwards with another glass of the stuff. Pure heaven!

680 Achilles Tang  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:48:25am

Joe the Plumber has written a book already? (Banner ad on the front page)

Wow, this is a man with many skills, not least being able to grab an opportunity when it comes.

Good or bad, I've got to say good for him.

681 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:48:44am

re: #678 HoosierHoops

Ahhh heck..there is no way they make great wine in MO. It's against the law!
was it as red or white wine?

black and gold

official colors for Mizzou are black and gold

[Link: www.missouri.edu...]

682 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:49:03am

Good morning y'all - from a rainy, coolish (50 degrees going all the wasy up to 60 degrees, with snow in Monday's forecast!) Charlotte - how is everyone doing today?

683 AuntAcid  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:49:10am

re: #678 HoosierHoops

Ahhh heck..there is no way they make great wine in MO. It's against the law!
was it as red or white wine?

Chateau Bud...with a twist-off cap.

684 Natasha  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:49:13am

re: #677 Bloodnok

Heh... My single buddies and I are having an anti-Valentine's Day drink-a-thon at the Officers Club tonight.

685 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:49:40am

re: #682 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a rainy, coolish (50 degrees going all the wasy up to 60 degrees, with snow in Monday's forecast!) Charlotte - how is everyone doing today?

GREAT, now that my relief has driven thru the gates ! !

686 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:49:52am

The Senate has passed the 78,700,000,000,000¢ Spendopulous plan.

687 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:49:54am

re: #679 Natasha

It was a dry red, and it went fantastically with the Porterhouse steak. I also smoked a Cohiba afterwards with another glass of the stuff. Pure heaven!

wow..I think I love you..lol
I grew up in Napa Valley..But I'm not a wine snob..I likes me some good beer too...

688 Marvo76  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:50:13am

Ok Hoosier, check your email, I had a bit of a problem getting the damn outlook mail to work so I had to go to my regular account and send it...

689 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:50:35am

No Republican Senator voted for it.

690 Amer-I-Can  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:50:39am

re: #667 Natasha

Good morning everyone! No Valentines stuff for this convinced bachelorette. However, I have a wine recommendation. The wine I had with dinner yesterday surprised the heck out of me, in a good way. It is from a winery that is literally right by where I am currently stationed. St. James winery in MO. It is, in scientific terms DA BOMB!

I really like their Velvet Red, but I have to take it in small doses. I like wine but it doesn't like me... if you know what I mean.

And you may be a convinced bachelorette, but Happy Valentines day anyway! Treat yourself to something special today besides the good wine.

691 Natasha  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:50:41am

re: #684 Natasha

Heh... My single buddies and I are having an anti-Valentine's Day drink-a-thon at the Officers Club tonight.

Actually, it is technically an all-ranks club, but only senior NCOs and Officers go there. We plan on taking over the thing today. There are many of us bachelors and bachelorettes.

692 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:51:32am

re: #664 Mich-again

Excellent point. How vain it is for humans to think the creator needs their assistance.

However, that is precisely the mindset of the Islamist Jihadist.

Bernard Lewis, "The Roots of Muslim Rage", Atlantic Monthly, Sept. 1990

The 7th para begins:

This phrase, which recurs so frequently in the language of the Iranian leadership, in both their judicial proceedings and their political pronouncements, must seem very strange to the modern outsider, whether religious or secular. The idea that God has enemies, and needs human help in order to identify and dispose of them, is a little difficult to assimilate.

You'll need to begin at the beginning to get the context.

Lewis is a premier Western scholar on Islam.

693 SurferDoc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:51:48am

re: #682 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a rainy, coolish (50 degrees going all the wasy up to 60 degrees, with snow in Monday's forecast!) Charlotte - how is everyone doing today?

Good morning, RW. I'm doing great, how about you?

694 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:52:10am

16:27 Turkey summons Israeli envoy over critical comments made by IDF general (AP)

This train wreck is rolling down hill real fast.

695 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:52:16am

re: #685 sattv4u2
Good morning - what do you mean your "relief" has
driven through the gates? What, have you been here all night long?!?

696 Marvo76  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:52:50am

re: #665 wahabicorridor

Her mom got a bigger kick out of it than she did, cause she had to explain to her about hog rings and why they are used for her to understand....
of course she had to deal with something else too, I do't celebrate Valintines day I wish everyone a happy V.D. and leave it at that. But at least she knows not to expect anythng and is never disappointed!

697 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:52:50am

re: #691 Natasha

Actually, it is technically an all-ranks club, but only senior NCOs and Officers go there. We plan on taking over the thing today. There are many of us bachelors and bachelorettes.

And this is were?

698 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:53:02am

re: #689 David IV of Georgia Specter, Collins and Snowe voted for it and wether or not we like it, they all have (R) after their names.

699 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:53:17am

re: #682 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a rainy, coolish (50 degrees going all the wasy up to 60 degrees, with snow in Monday's forecast!) Charlotte - how is everyone doing today?

Morning, Real!

700 Natasha  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:53:39am

re: #687 HoosierHoops

I love beer as well. My home is in Indiana, there used to be this awesome small brewery, most known for its Infidel Ale. It is a pity and a shame the brewery no longer exists.
But, vodka is my favorite, and I am a big vodka snob. Nothing beats a good martini.

701 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:53:51am

re: #682 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a rainy, coolish (50 degrees going all the wasy up to 60 degrees, with snow in Monday's forecast!) Charlotte - how is everyone doing today?

The temperature has been dropping here since the Sun came up. 36°F right now. I think I'll make some carbon footprints to warm things up.

702 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:54:15am

re: #695 realwest

Good morning - what do you mean your "relief" has
driven through the gates? What, have you been here all night long?!?

Yup ,, at work , came in at 10 last night. Will be back at 10 tonight

703 Marvo76  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:54:41am

nre: #700 Natasha

7&7!

704 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:54:47am

re: #693 SurferDoc
Hi SurferDoc - once I wake up, I'll let ya know how I'm doing! LOL!
Glad to hear you're doing well, though!

705 Natasha  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:55:12am

re: #697 Nevergiveup

Fort Lost in the Woods, Missouri. I thought I was going to hate the place, but I love it.

706 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:56:03am

re: #699 pre-Boomer Marine brat Hey , hi yourself! How are you today?

707 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:56:05am

re: #705 Natasha

Fort Lost in the Woods, Missouri. I thought I was going to hate the place, but I love it.

A tad to far for me to come for a drink.

708 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:56:29am

BBIAM!

709 Amer-I-Can  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:56:57am

re: #705 Natasha

Fort Lost in the Woods, Missouri. I thought I was going to hate the place, but I love it.

Engineer?

710 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:57:06am

re: #688 Marvo76

Ok Hoosier, check your email, I had a bit of a problem getting the damn outlook mail to work so I had to go to my regular account and send it...

Got it! thanks for the email.. We'll have to get together fellow Hoosier..
/I'm not a real Hoosier..Transfered from Cali...I'm thinking about getting a truck with a gun rack and becoming a real Hoosier..whadda think?

711 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:58:01am

re: #706 realwest

Hey , hi yourself! How are you today?

TGI"the weekend" !

712 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:58:06am

re: #698 realwest

Specter, Collins and Snowe voted for it and wether or not we like it, they all have (R) after their names.

I misread my source. You are correct. According to [Link: www.foxnews.com...] No Republican Representative voted for the Stimupork.

713 Natasha  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:58:21am

re: #690 Amer-I-Can

Thank you very much! I think I am actually going to buy myself a piece of white gold jewelry today. I wuvz me!

714 Marvo76  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:58:30am

re: #710 HoosierHoops

To be a real hoosier, you have to learn to warsh your clothes....

715 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:59:25am

re: #701 David IV of Georgia

Good morning!
How are the whales in Ray Hubbard taking it? I betcha they like the cold.

716 yesandno  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 6:59:51am

OT a bit...

But read this at the Corner and then read the link to it. Remeber the old "Crescent of Embrace"? Might be good to consider that the Arabs might well be picking up some of that debt that this ponzie scheme is going to create....and all of this will be getting worse.

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

[Link: creepingsharia.wordpress.com...]


Oh, and who could look at the faces of either Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid and believe that either one of them understands what stimulate means?

717 Marvo76  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:00:25am

well gotta go take care of some scrap metal that is waiting for me...have fun and try not to let the world end before I get back...

718 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:00:30am

Turkey demands Israel explain general's remarks

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

the Israeli general accused Turkey of massacring Armenians, oppressing Kurds and occupying Cyprus

I'm no English Major but I think the General meant that Turkey had massacred Armenians, oppressed the Kurds , and occupied Cyprus?

719 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:00:32am

Y'all check out my new avatar?

720 Natasha  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:00:40am

re: #709 Amer-I-Can

Engineer?

Indeed.

721 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:01:02am

re: #700 Natasha

I love beer as well. My home is in Indiana, there used to be this awesome small brewery, most known for its Infidel Ale. It is a pity and a shame the brewery no longer exists.
But, vodka is my favorite, and I am a big vodka snob. Nothing beats a good martini.

Damn..Hoosiers coming out of the woodwork today...We are going to do a lizard meet up this summer and have a blow-out dinner...
My nic is blue

722 opnion  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:01:33am

Greetings & salutations Lizards, Slumdog Hundredaire here.
The Chicago Tribune this morning covers the Stimulus vote , with no real analysis. The big issues are where the Obamas will go for their Valentine day dinner & what gifts that they will exchange.
They also published fawing letters from 6th graders to the President.

723 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:01:57am

re: #719 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Y'all check out my new avatar?

LOL!

724 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:02:25am

re: #711 pre-Boomer Marine brat I hear that! Course, being retired means that the weekends are just like any other day, except I don't have any damn appoitments or anything! And it promises to be weather just PERFECT for power napping! LOL!

725 Amer-I-Can  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:02:40am

re: #720 Natasha

ESSAYONS!

(Combat, Retired)

726 Natasha  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:02:49am

re: #719 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Y'all check out my new avatar?

Awesome! Dissent is patriotic, no?

727 Truck Monkey  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:03:13am

re: #673 AuntAcid

"stinkulus" passes...What would Charlie Brown say?

I got a rock. ; )

728 Natasha  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:03:40am

re: #725 Amer-I-Can

ESSAYONS!

(Combat, Retired)

There ain't nothin' a few pounds of C4 can't fix. LOL

729 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:03:57am

re: #714 Marvo76

To be a real hoosier, you have to learn to warsh your clothes....

Ya you guys talk funny..freaking hillbillies! LOL just teasing..
Indiana is cool..They love Basketball here almost as much as I love balling...
The greatest athletes in the world!

730 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:05:21am

re: #712 David IV of Georgia That's true, but I prefer to say that EVERY DAMN DEMOCRAT in the Senate voted for it and only 7 Dems in the House were smart enough to vote against it!
Make no mistake, this "stimulus bill" is a DEMOCRAT'S BILL ALL THE WAY.And because I do love my country, I hope I'm wrong and that this bill will in fact help our economy a great deal, but that's not how I'm betting it will turn out!

731 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:06:17am

re: #696 Marvo76

Her mom got a bigger kick out of it than she did, cause she had to explain to her about hog rings and why they are used for her to understand....
of course she had to deal with something else too, I do't celebrate Valintines day I wish everyone a happy V.D. and leave it at that. But at least she knows not to expect anythng and is never disappointed!

Your wife is a lucky lady.

And so am I.

Happy Valentine's Day to you and your sweetie.

{realwest}

732 Wishing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:07:10am

re: #719 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Y'all check out my new avatar?

A zillion updings, friend.

733 Natasha  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:07:12am

V.D.? No, thanks, I use protection....

734 Amer-I-Can  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:07:12am

re: #728 Natasha

There ain't nothin' a few pounds of C4 can't fix. LOL

LOL, there are stories we could share! I used to train 7th Group on bridge demo, among other adventures, ... it was alway interesting to say the least.

735 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:07:24am

re: #716 yesandno
Good morning to you - uh, repsectfully, this be the Dead Thread so you can't really be OT!
"who could look at the faces of either Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid and believe that either one of them understands what stimulate means?" I'm just ROTFLMAO over that line and I'm telling you right now, I'm gonna steal it!

736 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:07:38am

re: #715 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Good morning!
How are the whales in Ray Hubbard taking it? I betcha they like the cold.

There are whales in Lake Ray Hubbard? What's the hunting season on those? Do you think a 9mm would work or should I try the other angle and fish using 125lbs. test line?

737 Truck Monkey  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:08:20am

re: #689 David IV of Georgia

No Republican Senator voted for it.

But wait.... Collins, Spector, and Snow voted for the.... Oh wait. You're right. No Republican Senator voted for it.

738 Natasha  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:08:55am

re: #736 David IV of Georgia

There are whales in Lake Ray Hubbard? What's the hunting season on those? Do you think a 9mm would work or should I try the other angle and fish using 125lbs. test line?

Dynamite.

739 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:09:35am

re: #613 pre-Boomer Marine brat

How are you doing this AM?
Migraine gone?

It is now. I fell sleep in the chair with my laptop on me. :D

740 yesandno  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:09:54am

re: #719 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Y'all check out my new avatar?

That's no simple avatar.....

That is the purpose of life!

many kowtows to you!

741 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:10:37am

re: #730 realwest

That's true, but I prefer to say that EVERY DAMN DEMOCRAT in the Senate voted for it and only 7 Dems in the House were smart enough to vote against it!
Make no mistake, this "stimulus bill" is a DEMOCRAT'S BILL ALL THE WAY.And because I do love my country, I hope I'm wrong and that this bill will in fact help our economy a great deal, but that's not how I'm betting it will turn out!

I agree. I hope I am wrong and the bill will do more good than harm. I hope I am wrong and BHO will turn out to be a great president. (I also hope my unicorn will arrive in the mail soon.)

742 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:10:40am

re: #736 David IV of Georgia

There are whales in Lake Ray Hubbard? What's the hunting season on those? Do you think a 9mm would work or should I try the other angle and fish using 125lbs. test line?

If you like swimming with the whales, use a VERRRY heavy line.
/and hang on to the rod

*grin* ... figgered that'd wake you up!

743 Wishing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:10:42am

re: #736 David IV of Georgia

There are whales in Lake Ray Hubbard? What's the hunting season on those? Do you think a 9mm would work or should I try the other angle and fish using 125lbs. test line?

If you can't land it on 10lb test, well, you aren't much of a fisherman.

744 yesandno  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:11:50am

re: #735 realwest

Good morning to you - uh, repsectfully, this be the Dead Thread so you can't really be OT!
"who could look at the faces of either Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid and believe that either one of them understands what stimulate means?" I'm just ROTFLMAO over that line and I'm telling you right now, I'm gonna steal it!

:)

745 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:12:21am

re: #718 Nevergiveup
Good morning to you! Uh, "

Turkish media says the Israeli general accused Turkey of massacring Armenians, oppressing Kurds and occupying Cyprus in an apparent response to Turkey's prime minister, who scolded President Shimon Peres over the Gaza war at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland

may be one of the most poorly written sentences ever - that's something Turkey did a long, long time ago (ask Robert Spencer, he'll tell ya that!). But it reads as if - in response to remarks made by Peres, Turkey then went out and massacred Armenians,took over Cyprus and oppressed the Kurds!
Just sayin...........!

746 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:12:28am

re: #739 vxbush

It is now. I fell sleep in the chair with my laptop on me. :D

Good news!

If you were logged in all night, it must have been the vibes from the night shift which made the difference.

747 SurferDoc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:12:59am

"9mm"

Mmmm, gun thread!

748 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:15:44am

This in from the email I get from Sen. Inhoffe

"Democrats must be held accountable for the lack of infrastructure spending in this massive government spending bill," Senator Inhofe said. "Despite originally being sold as an infrastructure bill, the fact is this bill contains less than 7% for infrastructure in the entire bill. Furthermore, despite all the references to money going to shovel-ready highway and bridge projects, investment in highways comprises only 3% of the package.

749 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:16:06am

re: #743 Wishing

If you can't land it on 10lb test, well, you aren't much of a fisherman.

What bait or lures do whales prefer? Flies, worms, minnows, crawfish, small dogs, frogs, children, shrimp or something else?

750 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:16:11am

re: #731 wahabicorridor
Hey{wahabi} Happy St. Valentines Day to you! Hope you are doing well today!

751 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:16:31am

re: #738 Natasha

Dynamite.

Heh. That's the Army for ya'!

You need to develop your sensitive side. Swim with the whales like Spock in Star Trek's "The Voyage Home".

*duck*

752 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:17:12am

re: #734 Amer-I-Can
Good morning! Uh, where was it you trained the 7th SFG in blowing up bridges and stuff?

753 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:17:32am

re: #745 realwest

Good morning to you! Uh, "

may be one of the most poorly written sentences ever - that's something Turkey did a long, long time ago (ask Robert Spencer, he'll tell ya that!). But it reads as if - in response to remarks made by Peres, Turkey then went out and massacred Armenians,took over Cyprus and oppressed the Kurds!
Just sayin...........!

And remind me when Turkey EVER took responsibility for killing all them Armenians?

754 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:18:46am

re: #749 David IV of Georgia

What bait or lures do whales prefer? Flies, worms, minnows, crawfish, small dogs, frogs, children, shrimp or something else?

See if you can find an old geezer who once captained a whaling ship.

755 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:19:46am

Obama: Stimulus bill 'major milestone'


More like a 'major kidney stone'

/s

756 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:19:47am

re: #739 vxbush Good morning {vxbush} - glad you're finished with that migrane! Ya know I hear that if you eat a LOT of chocolate, that helps with a migrane headache!

757 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:20:05am

re: #746 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Good news!

If you were logged in all night, it must have been the vibes from the night shift which made the difference.

No, I got up early because the cats were demanding food. But I had no intention of staying awake. I just thought I'd make it back to the bed before I crashed.

758 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:20:29am

re: #745 realwest

Turkish media says the Israeli general accused Turkey of massacring Armenians, oppressing Kurds and occupying Cyprus in an apparent response to Turkey's prime minister, who scolded President Shimon Peres over the Gaza war at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland

I'm wondering what part of the general's comments the Turks are protesting—or are they upset that he forgot to mention that 80% of the Greeks living in Asia Minor in 1920 were either killed or forced to flee?

759 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:20:50am

re: #754 pre-Boomer Marine brat

See if you can find an old geezer who once captained a whaling ship.

Let's be watching that 'old geezer stuff'


/s

760 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:21:32am

re: #756 realwest

Good morning {vxbush} - glad you're finished with that migrane! Ya know I hear that if you eat a LOT of chocolate, that helps with a migrane headache!

Mmmmmmm. Chocolate. Actually, I do need to make a batch of banana chocolate-chip muffins, but before I can do that I have to do the dishes that are left over from last night.

I think I'm going to wait a while. I can't say I'm actually awake yet.

761 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:21:43am

re: #750 realwest

Hey{wahabi} Happy St. Valentines Day to you! Hope you are doing well today!

Yep. The Beagle is going to doggy day care and hubby and I have a lunch date.

Love to Mom from us.

762 Truck Monkey  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:22:09am

re: #755 Dustyvet

Obama: Stimulus bill 'major MILLSTONE'


More like a 'major kidney stone'

/s

FTFY

763 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:22:44am

re: #747 SurferDoc Well, not really - I mean, if y'all use a puny 9mm on a whale, y'all better bring a LOT of ammo and hope it doesn't get pissed off at those irritating scratches it feels!

764 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:23:08am

re: #753 Nevergiveup

And remind me when Turkey EVER took responsibility for killing all them Armenians?

Oh, they take responsibility. They just don't want it referred to as 'genocide'.

Seriously.

765 Arkay  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:23:37am

just a little bit of distortion there.... Lots of religious people here, we get our hackles up when someone is determined to force their religion into the secular public space/>

If the space it public, religion is a part of it. End of story. A government that enforces a purely secular space is by nature oppressive. Secularism does not have a monopoly on the public square. Where it does it becomes fascist.

what does a peacekeeper in Bosnia do?>

Keep Serb Nazis from killing helpless people. Keep Serb Nazis from rioting during Muslim memorial services for the dead from genocide. Make sure that those who lost the Bosnian Civil War through their atrocities don't forget the lessons learned. And later we get to annoy you.

immigration attorney? charge 4000$ to fill out and submit applications>

Charge $1500 to keep the husbands, wives, mothers and fathers of American citizens from being deported for $100 misdemeanor tickets and shoplifting charges and 35 year old drug convictions (all of these are real cases I have handled). All to support my 2002 Neon driving habit.

poor people beaten up in the USA? Is that why more people want to immigrate to USA than anywhere else in the world>

The ones I am talking about immigrate here LEGALLY, get a $100 ticket, and then goons in jackboots from ICE come and beat them up then throw them in jail. For a secularist you seem to miss on the concept of metaphor.

That's what I'm talkin'. Sorry it annoys you.

766 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:23:42am

re: #759 Dustyvet

Let's be watching that 'old geezer stuff'

/s

Heh ... I've got enough gray hair to have the privilege.

767 Amer-I-Can  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:23:48am

re: #752 realwest

Good morning! Uh, where was it you trained the 7th SFG in blowing up bridges and stuff?

Ft. Bragg in '91 just before Desert Storm

768 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:24:07am

Found it on a t-shirt site. Thought it was purdy funny.

769 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:24:36am

re: #754 pre-Boomer Marine brat Why is it ALWAYS an OLD geezer? Huh? Seems to me a young geezer would work just as well!
:)

770 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:25:32am

re: #766 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Heh ... I've got enough gray hair to have the privilege.

I look like a cross between Robert E Lee, Ernest Hemingway, and Santa Clause...:)

771 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:26:19am

re: #769 realwest

Why is it ALWAYS an OLD geezer? Huh? Seems to me a young geezer would work just as well!
:)

GEEZE

/hell if I know, but it sounded cute when I wrote it

772 yesandno  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:26:46am

Devil in the details:

Meanwhile, Nancy took a private government funded jet to all over Europe no doubt and weeks after granting everyone a pay hike in Congress...even after Obama capped his administrators/staff/cabinet.

Why does Congress get a pay hike when the gov't is in such lousy shape? Shouldn't their pay be tied to performance?

773 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:27:19am

re: #769 realwest

Why is it ALWAYS an OLD geezer? Huh? Seems to me a young geezer would work just as well!
:)

Geezer, General Purpose, 1 Each.

774 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:27:39am

re: #770 Dustyvet

I look like a cross between ...Robert E Lee..., Ernest Hemingway, and Santa Clause...:)

Damn near stood up and saluted!

775 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:27:49am

Morning Lizards! We lost an officer last night. Murdered in the line of duty by a scumbag. It is the 7th Philly officer killed in the last two years.

Please pray for him and his family. His wife is two months pregnant.

776 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:28:21am

re: #772 yesandno

Ix-nay on the countable-akay!

They are very delicate.

777 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:28:41am

re: #775 Wyatt Earp

Morning Lizards! We lost an officer last night. Murdered in the line of duty by a scumbag. It is the 7th Philly officer killed in the last two years.

Please pray for him and his family. His wife is two months pregnant.

Oh, how awful.
Prayers on the way.

778 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:29:07am

re: #775 Wyatt Earp

Sorry Wyatt. Y'all need to go all "Wild West" there.

779 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:29:11am

re: #775 Wyatt Earp

Morning Lizards! We lost an officer last night. Murdered in the line of duty by a scumbag. It is the 7th Philly officer killed in the last two years.

Please pray for him and his family. His wife is two months pregnant.

Oh. Fuck.

Prayers, Wyatt.

780 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:30:03am

Thanks, guys. I worked with his brother when I was in patrol. Cop family. Father, brother. All good people.

781 SurferDoc  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:30:14am

re: #775 Wyatt Earp

Sorry to hear it. Prayers coming.

782 Mich-again  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:30:20am

re: #692 pre-Boomer Marine brat

That was a nice read on a snowy Saturday morning. Thanks for that link.

783 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:30:35am

Mornin' all. My condolences and prayers to your officer Wyatt. Goddamn goblins anyway.
Did any of you catch the Nat Geo special about Darwin? BTW, it wasn't the finches that really got his attention, it was the mocking birds.

784 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:31:07am

re: #764 wahabicorridor

Oh, they take responsibility. They just don't want it referred to as 'genocide'.

Seriously.

Precisely.

Also, they dispute the death toll numbers which the Armenian activists use. I haven't researched it in depth, but I'm inclined to give the Turks more credence on that point.

785 Wishing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:31:27am

re: #749 David IV of Georgia

What bait or lures do whales prefer? Flies, worms, minnows, crawfish, small dogs, frogs, children, shrimp or something else?

Small cats.

786 Mich-again  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:32:05am

re: #718 Nevergiveup

I'm no English Major but I think the General meant that Turkey had massacred Armenians, oppressed the Kurds , and occupied Cyprus?

LOL!

787 unclassifiable  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:32:12am

re: #775 Wyatt Earp

Sorry to hear that.

The nephew graduated and is on the job in a small Texas town.

His mom worries about the highway scumbags.

788 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:32:47am

re: #775 Wyatt Earp

Morning Lizards! We lost an officer last night. Murdered in the line of duty by a scumbag. It is the 7th Philly officer killed in the last two years.

Please pray for him and his family. His wife is two months pregnant.

Prayers for Officer J P and his family.

789 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:32:55am

re: #749 David IV of Georgia

What bait or lures do whales prefer? Flies, worms, minnows, crawfish, small dogs, frogs, children, shrimp or something else?

Teeny tiny little bitty planktons. Wittle teeny sea monkeys.

790 Wishing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:32:59am

re: #775 Wyatt Earp

Morning Lizards! We lost an officer last night. Murdered in the line of duty by a scumbag. It is the 7th Philly officer killed in the last two years.

Please pray for him and his family. His wife is two months pregnant.

I am so sorry, Wyatt. I work for the Sheriff's Dept, this hurts us all. Prayers for his family and friends.

791 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:34:02am

re: #788 Dustyvet

Prayers for Officer J P and his family.

Thanks Dusty. John worked in my building. I am getting sick and tired of wearing my mourning crepe. And our mayor wants to lay off police officers and firefighters. *spit*

792 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:34:25am

re: #782 Mich-again

That was a nice read on a snowy Saturday morning. Thanks for that link.

You're welcome.

Lewis is very savvy, a professional.

793 Wishing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:34:38am

re: #791 Wyatt Earp

Thanks Dusty. John worked in my building. I am getting sick and tired of wearing my mourning crepe. And our mayor wants to lay off police officers and firefighters. *spit*

He wasn't wearing protective vest?

794 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:34:50am

re: #789 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Teeny tiny little bitty planktons. Wittle teeny sea monkeys.

They are hard to get on a hook—they wiggle too much.

795 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:34:52am

re: #761 wahabicorridor Well I'll surely pass along the love message to mom and thank you very kindly - sounds like you have a GREAT day planned out!
Oh, btw, with reference to your #748, I've now e-mailed Michael Steele the new head of the RNC, twice, and have received two repies - neither one a form response. The first one was about the stealth health provision and how I want The Three Stooges drummed out of our party. His polite repsonse was that he didn't have the authority to tell someone to remove the (R) after their name but you can never tell who's gonna be a candidate until after a primary! The second one was to the effect that he's been busily raising dough for the RNC (which - he said and I don't know if it's true or not - raised more money than McCain did for the last election) and that he intends to spend that money judiciously - as in that district in NY that has always been Republican but twice elected that Dem woman who is going to get Hillary's seat and the other was some House member in Virginia who's name I've forgotten). So it looks to me as if he already has a "target list" of seats the Repub's can pick up in the House - he didn't mention Senate races, other than alluding to primary races for the Three Stooges.
And to top it all off, he called me by my real first name and signed it, "Michael"!
So there is someone in the Republican Party you can reach and get a response from. Specter responded that he only helps folks who live in Pennsylvania - so I replied perhaps he should refer to himself as Arlen Specter (R for PA ONLY) and drop the US Senator from his name.
Collins and Snowe never even sent me a form letter response.

796 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:35:10am
797 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:35:11am

re: #790 Wishing

I am so sorry, Wyatt. I work for the Sheriff's Dept, this hurts us all. Prayers for his family and friends.

Thanks, Wishing. Some freinds offered condolences, and I told them that after all the muredered officers, I just don't have anything left.

798 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:35:48am

re: #793 Wishing

He wasn't wearing protective vest?

He was. He turned when the suspect fired, and it caught him in the chest between the panels.

799 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:36:22am

re: #775 Wyatt Earp

Morning Lizards! We lost an officer last night. Murdered in the line of duty by a scumbag. It is the 7th Philly officer killed in the last two years.

Please pray for him and his family. His wife is two months pregnant.

[Link: www.metacafe.com...]

800 Wishing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:36:30am

re: #798 Wyatt Earp

He was. He turned when the suspect fired, and it caught him in the chest between the panels.

Wow, just wow.

801 Arkay  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:36:56am

For those who think I'm being inconsistent when I say that "the religious have a right to be part of the public square" and when I say "religion has no part in evolution classes or in science"--

A science class is by nature not entirely "public", it's a class, where science is studied. If you want to study religion, take a religion class.

OTOH, the open air, where the matters of the day are debated--politics, public affairs, web sites, etc--theists in general and Christians in particular have an absolute right to be heard, and to be heard for what they are without having to put on "please excuse my Christianity" sackcloth and ashes. Christianity is nothing to be ashamed of and a Christian has every inch a right to speak and be heard as anyone else.

Societies that forget this are very quickly ruled by thugs in jackboots. At least, they have historically this last century.

802 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:37:12am

re: #785 Wishing

Small cats.

*yelling to the northeast*
"Hey Goddess, I'm buyin' you a plane ticket to Dallas.
... David's goin' fishing for whales down here.
... ... You can be a big help ! "

803 tackle  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:37:24am

There has been a video threat released over the American kidnapped in Pakinstan. God help him.
Kidnappers threaten American Kidnapped in Pakistan

804 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:37:42am

re: #800 Wishing

Wow, just wow.

The suspect was allegedly shot seven times. We're hearing he is going to live. Frakkin' fantastic. I was really praying for his death.

805 Mich-again  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:38:41am

re: #772 yesandno

Congress gave themselves a pay raise, I think it was 4 or 5%, but worse in my mind was that they increased each member's "petty cash fund" by $93,000.

Thats just a different pocket in the same pair of pants. They should just call it what it is. A slush fund to buy whatever they want without having to report it as income.

806 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:38:46am

re: #798 Wyatt Earp

Damn, just damn. Does your asshat mayor think by laying off the PD and FD it is going to get safer for the civilians? I got it, ACORN is gonna ride to the rescue with a shit load of community organizers and calm down the goblins. That is really heavy sarcasm right there.

807 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:39:15am

Goddess, if you're on, can you please ass Officer John Pawlowski and his family to our prayer list? See my #775.

808 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:39:42am

re: #795 realwest

so I replied perhaps he should refer to himself as Arlen Specter (R for PA ONLY) and drop the US Senator from his name.

Oh, VERRY good, real!

There's an article in today's NYT that he sold out in order to get more funding to NIH for cancer research.

I told my husband - and hubby will tell his staff - that we all die of something - it's no reason to sell out your country.

People are unbelievably pissed with him.

As for Gillibrand - as Dems go - she's pretty moderate.

809 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:40:46am

re: #807 Wyatt Earp

Goddess, if you're on, can you please ass ADD Officer John Pawlowski and his family to our prayer list? See my #775.

Sorry. I'm kinda out of sorts today.

810 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:40:51am

re: #783 pingjockey

Mornin' all. My condolences and prayers to your officer Wyatt. Goddamn goblins anyway.
Did any of you catch the Nat Geo special about Darwin? BTW, it wasn't the finches that really got his attention, it was the mocking birds.

Good Morning Ping! I saw that show last night..Wow..what a great show

811 Wishing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:41:07am

re: #804 Wyatt Earp

The suspect was allegedly shot seven times. We're hearing he is going to live. Frakkin' fantastic. I was really praying for his death.

Medical care, then the trial, for years, then his meals and housing til death. Total drag.
Whatever happened to *a life for a life*?

812 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:41:36am

re: #801 Arkay

Excuse me, are you 'speaking' to someone specifically?

813 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:41:44am

re: #767 Amer-I-Can
Ah, geez, I really gotta try to keep up with military news - when I served with the 8th SFG (I was NOT SF qualified, just TDY'd to them for a couple years) in the Canal Zone and elsewhere, the 7th was a Ft Devon, Mass, IIRC and I was just wondering if y'all ever got the coordinates wrong and managed to place a few charges around Lt. Kerry's place, cause ya know he'd understand mistakes in navigation! LOL! But it'd be really hard to do that if they were at Ft. Bragg!

814 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:42:43am

re: #806 pingjockey

Damn, just damn. Does your asshat mayor think by laying off the PD and FD it is going to get safer for the civilians? I got it, ACORN is gonna ride to the rescue with a shit load of community organizers and calm down the goblins. That is really heavy sarcasm right there.

He didn't blink an eye when he closed 7 fire stations, and Lord knows that won't make things safer for the citizens. It's a shame, because I thought Nutter was better than this.

815 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:42:50am

re: #807 Wyatt Earp

Goddess, if you're on, can you please ass Officer John Pawlowski and his family to our prayer list? See my #775.

Police Officer John Pawlowski
Philadelphia Police Department
Pennsylvania
End of Watch: Friday, February 13, 2009

Biographical Info
Age: 25
Tour of Duty: Not available
Badge Number: Not available

Incident Details
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Date of Incident: Friday, February 13, 2009
Weapon Used: Handgun; .357 caliber
Suspect Info: Shot and wounded

Officer John Pawlowski was shot and killed while responding to a street fight in the city's Logan section at approximately 8 pm. One of the two men involved in the fight shot him as he exited his cruiser.

Other officers at the scene returned fire and wounded the suspect. Officer Pawlowski was transported to Einstein Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead.

Officer Pawlowski's brother also serves with the Philadelphia Police Department, and his father retired from the agency.

Agency Contact Information
Philadelphia Police Department
One Franklin Square
Philadelphia, PA 19106


[Link: www.odmp.org...]

816 Mich-again  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:43:00am

re: #804 Wyatt Earp

The suspect was allegedly shot seven times. We're hearing he is going to live.

And there will be calls from certain groups within the USA and abroad to let him go free because he is a political prisoner like Mumia.

817 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:43:05am

re: #810 HoosierHoops
The guy was seasick forever on that trip. I was lucky, was never seasick in twenty years. I have talked to folks who were seasick and its like you just want to curl up and die. Darwin was still doing writing and research while still in that state.

818 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:43:26am

re: #771 pre-Boomer Marine brat Aw hell, y'all know I was just kidding.....sorta..........doncha?!
:)

819 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:43:33am

re: #775 Wyatt Earp

Morning Lizards! We lost an officer last night. Murdered in the line of duty by a scumbag. It is the 7th Philly officer killed in the last two years.

Please pray for him and his family. His wife is two months pregnant.

I'm so sorry Wyatt.. prayer goes out for your fallen officer..

820 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:44:20am

re: #815 Dustyvet

Police Officer John Pawlowski
Philadelphia Police Department
Pennsylvania
End of Watch: Friday, February 13, 2009

Biographical Info
Age: 25
Tour of Duty: Not available
Badge Number: Not available

Incident Details
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Date of Incident: Friday, February 13, 2009
Weapon Used: Handgun; .357 caliber
Suspect Info: Shot and wounded

Officer John Pawlowski was shot and killed while responding to a street fight in the city's Logan section at approximately 8 pm. One of the two men involved in the fight shot him as he exited his cruiser.

Other officers at the scene returned fire and wounded the suspect. Officer Pawlowski was transported to Einstein Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead.

Officer Pawlowski's brother also serves with the Philadelphia Police Department, and his father retired from the agency.

Agency Contact Information
Philadelphia Police Department
One Franklin Square
Philadelphia, PA 19106


[Link: www.odmp.org...]

I know you got it from ODMP, but his badge was #5649, and he was working the 4pm-12am shift.

821 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:44:53am

re: #814 Wyatt Earp
What a fool. I always vote myself higher local taxes for fire, police, school. To hell with the Feds.

822 Arkay  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:45:32am

re: #801 Arkay

Excuse me, are you 'speaking' to someone specifically?
>

Ploome Hienei, #482. The quote site somehow disappeared in the posting process.

823 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:45:42am

re: #807 Wyatt Earp

Goddess, if you're on, can you please ass Officer John Pawlowski and his family to our prayer list? See my #775.

I just emailed links to your #775, this #807, and your web site to her

824 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:45:59am

re: #816 Mich-again

And there will be calls from certain groups within the USA and abroad to let him go free because he is a political prisoner like Mumia.

The only good thing out of this is where the incident happened. Broad and Olney is one of the busiest intersections in the city - there's a major bus terminal there - and there are plenty of witnesses. Lot of people saw this happen.

Ironically enough, the scene is two blocks south from our HQ and two blocks north of the hospital where John was pronounced.

825 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:46:33am

re: #820 Wyatt Earp

I know you got it from ODMP, but his badge was #5649, and he was working the 4pm-12am shift.

I'm on their email list, just as you came on with the announcement, the email came in.

826 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:46:54am

re: #801 Arkay

Science classes are a specific forum with a specific focus. Teaching religion is not part of the focus of most science classes and is therefore out of place. It would be similar to teaching economic theories in a class on Buddhism. While a person has a right to be heard and a right to speak, not all times and places are appropriate. Now if the class were about science and religion or how religious views shape science or how science has influenced religion or something along those lines, then it would be appropriate to teach both in the same class.

827 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:46:58am

re: #823 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I just emailed links to your #775, this #807, and your web site to her


Thank you. I thought about doing that, but I'm at work, and things are pretty bad here today. I'm working, but just going through the motions, ya know?

828 doppelganglander  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:47:07am

re: #775 Wyatt Earp

Morning Lizards! We lost an officer last night. Murdered in the line of duty by a scumbag. It is the 7th Philly officer killed in the last two years.

Please pray for him and his family. His wife is two months pregnant.

I saw the story this morning and thought of you immediately. His family is in my thoughts. I hope you and your fellow officers are taking care of yourselves emotionally as you have to go through this yet again.

829 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:47:50am

re: #827 Wyatt Earp
Yes sir, we sure do. Thoughts and prayers Wyatt.

830 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:48:27am

re: #821 pingjockey

What a fool. I always vote myself higher local taxes for fire, police, school. To hell with the Feds.

the feds are nothing less than criminal...they have no moral right to steal from the people...they hide behind the law

831 yesandno  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:48:56am

re: #805 Mich-again

Congress gave themselves a pay raise, I think it was 4 or 5%, but worse in my mind was that they increased each member's "petty cash fund" by $93,000.

Thats just a different pocket in the same pair of pants. They should just call it what it is. A slush fund to buy whatever they want without having to report it as income.


And then they get so rightous and condescending about similar practices by others.

Need a complete change in Washington.....

832 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:49:16am

re: #828 doppelganglander

I saw the story this morning and thought of you immediately. His family is in my thoughts. I hope you and your fellow officers are taking care of yourselves emotionally as you have to go through this yet again.

Thanks. I wrote earlier that after seven officers murdered in two years, I don't have much left. I should have shed some tears, but it hasn't happened yet. That worries me.

833 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:49:30am
834 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:49:53am
835 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:50:03am

re: #830 albusteve
Leastwise here, I can see where the money is going, unlike that sucking black hole in DC!

836 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:50:04am

re: #775 Wyatt Earp
Howdy Wyatt - left a message on your blog - prayers and sympathies to his widow and unborn child......and to all y'all brave LE folks out there.
Glad the scumbag was shot DEAD at the scene.

837 Amer-I-Can  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:50:28am

re: #813 realwest

Ah, geez, I really gotta try to keep up with military news - when I served with the 8th SFG (I was NOT SF qualified, just TDY'd to them for a couple years) in the Canal Zone and elsewhere, the 7th was a Ft Devon, Mass, IIRC and I was just wondering if y'all ever got the coordinates wrong and managed to place a few charges around Lt. Kerry's place, cause ya know he'd understand mistakes in navigation! LOL! But it'd be really hard to do that if they were at Ft. Bragg!

LOL, that's OK, I wasn't assigned to 7th Group, just attached for training. I was also NOT SF qualified, those guys are HALF NUTS on a good day. I don't think I trained them for anything relating to DS, I'm not even sure that they got deployed to the Middle East. Of course, everything was real hush, hush back then because the fun hadn't started yet.

Thank you for your service, it has made a difference for all Americans.

838 doppelganglander  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:50:54am

re: #836 realwest

Howdy Wyatt - left a message on your blog - prayers and sympathies to his widow and unborn child......and to all y'all brave LE folks out there.
Glad the scumbag was shot DEAD at the scene.

Unfortunately, the scumbag is not dead.

839 outsidephilly  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:51:25am

re: #832 Wyatt Earp

Thanks. I wrote earlier that after seven officers murdered in two years, I don't have much left. I should have shed some tears, but it hasn't happened yet. That worries me.


Same here . . . , we're beyond tears, and sadden by the breakdown of our society

840 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:51:36am

re: #827 Wyatt Earp

Thank you. I thought about doing that, but I'm at work, and things are pretty bad here today. I'm working, but just going through the motions, ya know?

I can well imagine.

I had friends in law enforcement while I lived in Tucson. And I had once met a U of AZ officer who was killed in just that manner, bullet going in from the side -- fired by a punk high school kid who was mad about having been turned away from a university fraternity party.

841 Wishing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:51:39am

re: #838 doppelganglander

Unfortunately, the scumbag is not dead.

Do we have the scumbag's name. btw?

842 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:51:43am

re: #836 realwest

Howdy Wyatt - left a message on your blog - prayers and sympathies to his widow and unborn child......and to all y'all brave LE folks out there.
Glad the scumbag was shot DEAD at the scene.

Unfortunately, he wasn't. Shot seven times. Still alive, and the docs think he'll make it. Figures.

843 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:51:55am

re: #835 pingjockey

Leastwise here, I can see where the money is going, unlike that sucking black hole in DC!

of course...don't get me wrong

844 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:52:26am

The Prince of hypocrites: Charles embarks on 16,000 mile 'green' crusade... aboard a private jet

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

And such a handsome couple? Anybody else got a hankering to go to the horse track?

845 Wishing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:53:06am

re: #844 Nevergiveup

The Prince of hypocrites: Charles embarks on 16,000 mile 'green' crusade... aboard a private jet

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

And such a handsome couple? Anybody else got a hankering to go to the horse track?

Actually, that is one of the kindest photos I have seen.

846 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:53:13am

re: #832 Wyatt Earp
You are numb, a human can only take so many emotional body blows then, IIRC you kinda shut down. Defense mechanism maybe? I'm talking without being a psshrink or having stayed at a Holiday Inn. Had one of my troops lose his parents and grandparents a week a part and the kid just went into a shell.

847 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:53:29am

re: #841 Wishing

Do we have the scumbag's name. btw?

The media, in their infinite wisdom, has not released it yet. It's Rasheed Scrugs. He is no stranger to our cell room.

848 yesandno  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:53:41am

re: #833 ploome hineni

as someone posted yesterday,

'Michelle doesn't smile, she bares her teeth'

/I think barry is gay

That thought has passed my mind as well..

849 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:53:52am
850 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:54:05am

re: #804 Wyatt Earp
Ah crap! I thought he'd been shot DEAD at the scene!
Damnit.

851 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:54:32am

BBIAB, taking middle kid to the ski bus.

852 NonNativeTexan  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:54:41am

re: #821 pingjockey

It's an old trick, Politicians never cut where they can, where there
is a lot of waste. They cut police, fire and prison funding , that way
they can tell the voters, hey - we need a tax increase or we are going
to have to cut police, fire and prison funding.

853 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:54:49am

re: #846 pingjockey

You are numb, a human can only take so many emotional body blows then, IIRC you kinda shut down. Defense mechanism maybe? I'm talking without being a psshrink or having stayed at a Holiday Inn. Had one of my troops lose his parents and grandparents a week a part and the kid just went into a shell.

I'm really angry, but that's about it. I expect the rest will come soon enough.

The sad part? It's my son's first birthday today. I have to go home and try to have a good time with my extended family.

854 outsidephilly  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:54:51am

Next week at PA State Representative Joe Sestak's Town Hall Meeting where he wants to discuss the stimulus bill, I'm going to ask him about his slant on this.

855 Wishing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:54:53am

re: #848 yesandno

That thought has passed my mind as well..

Do you all remember the youtube video put out by a gay guy in Chaicago who claimed this to be true? Said he had done the deed with barryboy and also got high with him. This was a few years ago.

856 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:54:53am
857 outsidephilly  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:56:12am

re: #856 ploome hineni

does he speak english?

ebonics

858 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:56:12am

re: #853 Wyatt Earp

I'm really angry, but that's about it. I expect the rest will come soon enough.

The sad part? It's my son's first birthday today. I have to go home and try to have a good time with my extended family.

{Wyatt}

859 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:56:20am

re: #808 wahabicorridor
Well she'd have to me "moderate" to get elected in that district, but how did Gillibrand vote on the Pork Bill, do ya know? I don't think she's given up her congressional seat yet.

860 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:56:21am

re: #849 ploome hineni

taxi drivers carry guns?

He is a "hack." An unlicensed taxi driver who ferries other toads around the city for a few bucks. Most of them have long criminal records, and it doesn't look like the murder weapon was legally registered. Go figure.

861 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:56:29am

re: #827 Wyatt Earp

Thank you. I thought about doing that, but I'm at work, and things are pretty bad here today. I'm working, but just going through the motions, ya know?

My condolences to the both and immediate and law enforcement.

Here in WA in the last two years we've lost 6 officers. Each and everyone the murder was under supervised release by the Department of Corrections.

It makes it even worst when the "system" cares more for criminal right than the lives of those sworn to protect us.

862 Euler  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:56:48am

Texas and New South Wales have a lot in common.

863 Natasha  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:56:53am

It is really sad news about the murder of the police officer. And it is too damn bad the scumbag who murdered him is going to live. No doubt, leftards are going to make this murderer into some sort of a heroic martyr.

864 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:56:53am

re: #853 Wyatt Earp

I'm really angry, but that's about it. I expect the rest will come soon enough.

The sad part? It's my son's first birthday today. I have to go home and try to have a good time with my extended family.

A Happy Birthday to your son! Hang in there Wyatt!

865 yesandno  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:57:14am

re: #844 Nevergiveup

The Prince of hypocrites: Charles embarks on 16,000 mile 'green' crusade... aboard a private jet

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

And such a handsome couple? Anybody else got a hankering to go to the horse track?


Yes......with a large whip......

866 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:57:37am
867 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:57:48am

Last update - 08:33 14/02/2009

Top 33 most embarrassing moments in Knesset history

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Pretty funny reading. As an example:

Most moving eulogy
August 1999: Knesset Speaker Avraham Burg states in the Knesset plenum that veteran MK Amnon Rubinstein has died. The MKs rise and honor him with a minute of silence; Burg delivers a moving eulogy which is broadcast on television. One of those moved is Rubinstein himself, watching the event from his sickbed in Hadassah University Hospital in Jerusalem. It later turns out that Zalman Shoshi, a transgender celebrity, posed as a doctor and announced Rubinstein?s death. Burg had not checked the facts.

868 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:57:55am

re: #859 realwest

Well she'd have to me "moderate" to get elected in that district, but how did Gillibrand vote on the Pork Bill, do ya know? I don't think she's given up her congressional seat yet.

She voted 'yes'.

She has given up her seat in the House, I think. At least her office has moved to the Senate side because we spent half a day talking to staffers who were getting lost in the move!

869 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:58:10am

re: #864 Dustyvet

A Happy Birthday to your son! Hang in there Wyatt!

Hey, we gotta keep fighting or the criminals win, right?

870 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:58:12am
871 Mich-again  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:58:31am

re: #824 Wyatt Earp

We have a friend who's husband was a police officer killed in the line of duty in Detroit when their daughter was very young. The woman and her daughter who is now 14 are both the very nicest people you'd ever meet and they do a lot of volunteer work with an organization who helps children of policemen killed in the line of duty. You know the scars must still be there, but they both always seem so positive and friendly. Very inspiring people.

872 TheAntichrist  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:58:49am

re: #855 Wishing

Do you all remember the youtube video put out by a gay guy in Chaicago who claimed this to be true? Said he had done the deed with barryboy and also got high with him. This was a few years ago.


That was Larry Sinclair, and he's about as credible as Bill promising Hillary she's the only one for him.

873 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:58:50am

re: #861 jcm

My condolences to the both and immediate and law enforcement.

Here in WA in the last two years we've lost 6 officers. Each and everyone the murder was under supervised release by the Department of Corrections.

It makes it even worst when the "system" cares more for criminal right than the lives of those sworn to protect us.

Six officers in two years? My God.

874 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:58:53am

re: #861 jcm

(somber mood)

Good morning.

875 ILoveIsrael  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:59:22am

From wikipedia:

Indeed, Maimonides, one of the great rabbis of the Middle Ages, wrote that if science and Torah were misaligned, it was either because science was not understood or the Torah was misinterpreted. Maimonides argued that if science proved a point, then the finding should be accepted and scripture should be interpreted accordingly.

Rabbi Simeon Bar Yohai in the 2nd century wrote:

"If a man looks upon the Torah as merely a book presenting narratives and everyday matters, alas for him! Such a torah, one treating with everyday concerns, and indeed a more excellent one, we too, even we, could compile. More than that, in the possession of the rulers of the world there are books of even greater merit, and these we could emulate if we wished to compile some such torah. But the Torah, in all of its words, holds supernal truths and sublime secrets.
Thus the tales related in the Torah are simply her outer garments, and woe to the man who regards that outer garb as the Torah itself, for such a man will be deprived of portion in the next world. Thus David said:" Open Thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of Thy law" (Psalms 119:18), that is to say, the things that are underneath. See now. The most visible part of a man are the clothes that he has on, and they who lack understanding, when they look at the man, are apt not to see more in him than these clothes. In reality, however, it is the body of the man that constitutes the pride of his clothes, and his soul constitutes the pride of his body.
Woe to the sinners who look upon the Torah as simply tales pertaining to things of the world, seeing thus only the outer garment. But the righteous whose gaze penetrates to the very Torah, happy are they. Just as wine must be in a jar to keep, so the Torah must also be contained in an outer garment. That garment is made up of the tales and stories; but we, we are bound to penetrate beyond."

876 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:59:28am

re: #866 ploome hineni

fasts one day a week

Given her backside, she should try for two.

/meow

877 Miss Trixie  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 7:59:44am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Happy Valentine's Day!

{ &#9829 realwest &#9829 } *smoochie-smooch* :D

New avatar, BTW.

878 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:00:03am

re: #869 Wyatt Earp

Hey, we gotta keep fighting or the criminals win, right?

We do, Wyatt.

879 outsidephilly  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:00:30am

re: #871 Mich-again

We have a friend who's husband was a police officer killed in the line of duty in Detroit when their daughter was very young. The woman and her daughter who is now 14 are both the very nicest people you'd ever meet and they do a lot of volunteer work with an organization who helps children of policemen killed in the line of duty. You know the scars must still be there, but they both always seem so positive and friendly. Very inspiring people.


An organization that takes care of their own!

880 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:00:39am

re: #823 pre-Boomer Marine brat Excellent work! I was gonna do that and looked up and saw you'd done it already!
Something to be said for you youngin's after all!
/ducks

881 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:01:30am

re: #877 Miss Trixie

AARRGH! You just got here and I have GOT to go get gussied up for our lunch date!

damn

{Miss Trixie}

882 yesandno  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:01:39am

re: #855 Wishing

Do you all remember the youtube video put out by a gay guy in Chaicago who claimed this to be true? Said he had done the deed with barryboy and also got high with him. This was a few years ago.


Well wasn't his "mentor" a black gay man when 0 was in his teens? Not that that would mean anything, but it does raise the eyebrows that the significant male in his life at the time was gay.....

Don't really care if Barry is gay.....it would be one more slap against Michelle...and who would complain about that?

883 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:02:28am

re: #877 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

Happy Valentine's Day!

{ ♥ realwest ♥ } *smoochie-smooch* :D

New avatar, BTW.

Good Morning miss Trixie! How are you today?

884 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:02:39am
885 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:02:48am

later lizards - off to have fun!

886 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:03:25am

re: #837 Amer-I-Can
You're welcome and thank you for your service as well.

887 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:03:28am
888 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:03:54am

re: #866 ploome hineni

not one ex girlfriend...or anyone he dated

WAB larger than he is, and more formidable

lol

obsessed with exercise

fasts one day a week

lol

We have not seen one friend from HS, or college or a former employer or roommate come forward about the O.

His life before he became a politician is almost completely blank.

889 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:04:30am

re: #880 realwest

Excellent work! I was gonna do that and looked up and saw you'd done it already!
Something to be said for you youngin's after all!
/ducks

Careful ... an old g**z*r like you might sprain something when you duck

:D

890 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:04:47am

re: #873 Wyatt Earp

Six officers in two years? My God.

the ABQ police are generally well behaved and trusted out here...one thing...you do not draw down on APD...they will kill you, and they do on a regular basis usually in a maelstom of lead...do not fuck with the APD

891 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:05:05am

re: #860 Wyatt Earp

He is a "hack." An unlicensed taxi driver who ferries other toads around the city for a few bucks. Most of them have long criminal records, and it doesn't look like the murder weapon was legally registered. Go figure.

Yeah, go figure. They tried to close the "gun show loophole" up here. One (R) legislator ask the AG to provide figures for gun show guns used in crimes.

Results.....

none.

892 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:05:15am

re: #889 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Careful ... an old g**z*r like you might sprain something when you duck

:D

"I've ducked and I can't get up"

893 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:05:48am
894 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:06:44am

re: #890 albusteve

the ABQ police are generally well behaved and trusted out here...one thing...you do not draw down on APD...they will kill you, and they do on a regular basis usually in a maelstom of lead...do not fuck with the APD

People used to not frak with us, too. Those days are gone forever - especially in a town where the media paints all of us as lying, racist killers.

895 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:07:13am

re: #842 Wyatt Earp
Yeah I posted that before I read your update. Can't really say what I want to out here and not get deleted.
But I really hope all his "doctors" graduated last in their class at Medical School, ya know?!
And about the lack of tears - don't worry Wyatt, they'll come but the shock of that - even if you weren't involved in that firefight directly - will wear off.

896 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:07:34am

re: #892 Dustyvet

"I've ducked and I can't get up"

LOL!

897 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:08:15am

re: #873 Wyatt Earp

Six officers in two years? My God.

Two were traffic accidents but the perps and both been released days before both were drunk and high.

898 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:08:44am

re: #844 Nevergiveup
Don't know why the Mail was bitching about it; at least he'll be outta GB for a while!

899 afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:08:46am

Happy Valentines Day!

900 Wishing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:08:56am

re: #875 ILoveIsrael

Exactly! Torah is not a science book, an economics book, a history book. It is Scripture. People who try to twist it to fit their current worldview are just wrong, wrong, wrong!
I said this on an earlier thread: The Almighty is no stranger to giving details: the instructions for the Tabernacle are exquisite in their detail. If He had a mind to teach HOW things were *created* He certainly could have. He did not.

901 Maximu§  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:09:08am

Morning gang..how is everyone today?

902 tokyobk  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:09:09am

re: #882 yesandno

I think Obama's sexuality or Michelle's comparative beauty (I find her attractive) are totally irrelevant to the question of his ability to lead effectively.

Lincoln slept in the same bed as two men with whom he was very close, Josh Speed and the captain of his guard when Mary Todd was away. Perhaps these relationships were homoerotic, perhaps homosexual but really who cares? He was a great president and a great man.

903 Miss Trixie  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:09:24am

re: #881 wahabicorridor

AARRGH! You just got here and I have GOT to go get gussied up for our lunch date!

damn

{Miss Trixie}

Hi honey! Have a great time and we can gab later when you return. :D

{wahabbi}

904 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:09:49am

re: #893 ploome hineni

quite amazing

and those who we do know about...the Pakistani and the other roommate fromMalaysia (?)

the rev Wright....etc

Haven't heard about the roomies.

The Rev Wright - I believe the church and his attendance was a "cover", to provide legitimacy - he has perhaps some surface beliefs, but not any real deeply held religious beliefs. Just as he does not seem to have any genuine or deeply held feelings for the grandparents who raised him, provided for him, gave him those things that made his life possible.

905 Mich-again  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:09:54am

re: #894 Wyatt Earp

especially in a town where the media paints all of us as lying, racist killers.

And the pictures that go along with this story are enough to make me ill.

906 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:10:08am

re: #899 afrocity

Happy Valentines Day!

♪ ♫ Happy Valentines Day! ♫ ♪

907 abaleh  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:10:19am

re: #867 Nevergiveup

Last update - 08:33 14/02/2009

Top 33 most embarrassing moments in Knesset history

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Pretty funny reading. As an example:

Most moving eulogy
August 1999: Knesset Speaker Avraham Burg states in the Knesset plenum that veteran MK Amnon Rubinstein has died. The MKs rise and honor him with a minute of silence; Burg delivers a moving eulogy which is broadcast on television. One of those moved is Rubinstein himself, watching the event from his sickbed in Hadassah University Hospital in Jerusalem. It later turns out that Zalman Shoshi, a transgender celebrity, posed as a doctor and announced Rubinstein?s death. Burg had not checked the facts.

I liked this one:

Most diplomatic welcome
March 1979: Chief of staff Rafael Eitan and Jerusalem mayor Teddy Kollek are photographed fast asleep in the VIP gallery as U.S. president Jimmy Carter addresses the Knesset.

908 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:11:37am

re: #895 realwest

Yeah I posted that before I read your update. Can't really say what I want to out here and not get deleted.
But I really hope all his "doctors" graduated last in their class at Medical School, ya know?!
And about the lack of tears - don't worry Wyatt, they'll come but the shock of that - even if you weren't involved in that firefight directly - will wear off.

Albert Einstein Medical Center is one of the best in the business. I have a great deal of respect for the docs and nurses there. They will do what they can to save everyone - even those who may not deserve to be saved. What are ya gonna do?

909 afrocity  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:12:43am

re: #902 tokyobk

I don't find Michelle attractive. She is Okay.

910 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:13:23am

re: #894 Wyatt Earp

People used to not frak with us, too. Those days are gone forever - especially in a town where the media paints all of us as lying, racist killers.

No different here. The cops here were forced to go through a huge profiling study.
The media had a hayday, but when you dug into numbers, something the media never does. The numbers where consistent with neighborhood population demographics and complaint suspect description.

911 outsidephilly  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:13:45am

re: #908 Wyatt Earp

Albert Einstein Medical Center is one of the best in the business. I have a great deal of respect for the docs and nurses there. They will do what they can to save everyone - even those who may not deserve to be saved. What are ya gonna do?

They do their job, and they are very good at what they do!

912 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:14:44am

re: #894 Wyatt Earp

People used to not frak with us, too. Those days are gone forever - especially in a town where the media paints all of us as lying, racist killers.

when I first came down here I was sitting in traffic at an X shaped intersection...suddenly squad cars came roaring in from all directions, may eight cars weaving in and out and swarming...cops jumped out of all these cars with oistols and shotguns moving up to us civvies for protection, motioning people to get down or move their car where they could...while others surrounded the bad guys car and took him down....it was obvious they did a good job of protecting the public...I sat there stunned by the whole scene but was very impressed...

913 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:14:56am

re: #877 Miss Trixie
Good morning gorgeous and a few *smooches* for you as well as Happy Valentine's Day wishes as well!
Love the new avatar!
Hope y'all are doing well!

914 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:14:59am

So this morning (the day --after-- the final House and Senate stimulus vite), there's a a dude putting flyers on car windshields in the neighborhood:

Five reasons bailouts and stimulus are bad ideas.... contact your Congressman and Senator and tell them to vote against all bailouts and stimulus. For more information contact [Link: www.ronpaulmeetup...]
915 tokyobk  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:15:27am

I didn't say hot. But definitely attractive by any standard especially the standard of women you meet in law school. I want to see the wives and girlfriends of the people calling her toothy and ugly etc..!

916 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:15:49am

re: #909 afrocity

I don't find Michelle attractive. She is Okay.

What puts me off is the sour look on her face most of the time.

917 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:15:54am

re: #905 Mich-again

And the pictures that go along with this story are enough to make me ill.

In the photo's I saw someone with a sign which read:

'THE PEOPLE WILL BRING MUMA HOME'

Hopefully in a box, and delivered in a hearse!

*spit*

918 Miss Trixie  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:16:09am

re: #883 HoosierHoops

Good Morning miss Trixie! How are you today?

Good morning! I'm just fine, thanks for asking. Although it's a bright winter day, I've got the heat cranked 'cause it's very cold and Lil Miss is trembling with every fibre of her being at the patio door in hunt-mode daring the squirrels to scamper along her fence.

What snoo with you?

919 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:16:26am

re: #885 wahabicorridor
Hey {wahabi} - have a great day.....and evening, too!

920 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:16:56am

re: #899 afrocity

Happy Valentines Day!

Happy Valentines day to you..

921 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:17:14am

re: #916 jcm

What puts me off is the sour look on her face most of the time.

I think that's just an orthodontia problem. Her jaw juts a bit naturally, so it gives her face an odd look.

922 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:17:53am

re: #889 pre-Boomer Marine brat *sputter* why you young mflelrds.......stops to put teeth back in... young whipersnapper!

923 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:18:36am

re: #908 Wyatt Earp

Albert Einstein Medical Center is one of the best in the business. I have a great deal of respect for the docs and nurses there. They will do what they can to save everyone - even those who may not deserve to be saved. What are ya gonna do?

take better aim...exactly like your nic-sake did

924 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:18:53am

re: #908 Wyatt Earp

Albert Einstein Medical Center is one of the best in the business. I have a great deal of respect for the docs and nurses there. They will do what they can to save everyone - even those who may not deserve to be saved. What are ya gonna do?

They have their calling (and it is a high one.) I hope they save the scumbag's life.

Past that, I'm feeling antsy to spell out what I'd like to have happen next. With one eye on Stinky's pipe wrench, I'll just say that I hope the perp will soon feel antsy too.

/that's positively crawling with metaphor

925 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:18:55am

re: #900 Wishing

Exactly! Torah is not a science book, an economics book, a history book. It is Scripture. People who try to twist it to fit their current worldview are just wrong, wrong, wrong!
I said this on an earlier thread: The Almighty is no stranger to giving details: the instructions for the Tabernacle are exquisite in their detail. If He had a mind to teach HOW things were *created* He certainly could have. He did not.


Why were the Israelites in the Wilderness forty years? God was trying to explain to Moses about the Big Bang, dark matter, evolution and dinosaurs. Finally he feel back on "In the Beginning..."

926 outsidephilly  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:18:58am

re: #917 Dustyvet

In the photo's I saw someone with a sign which read:

'THE PEOPLE WILL BRING MUMA HOME'

Hopefully in a box, and delivered in a hearse!

*spit*

And spit we do! Then there's all the 'celebrities' that 'support' muma - UGH!
Sad to say, Paul Newman was a BIG muma supporter . . . ,

And remember, an officer died . . . . .

927 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:19:13am

re: #892 Dustyvet
Thibbbit! You're older than I am, Dusty! That's why we keep brushing them cobwebs off of you!

928 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:19:41am

Did I cut that one too close?

929 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:19:45am

re: #910 jcm

No different here. The cops here were forced to go through a huge profiling study.
The media had a hayday, but when you dug into numbers, something the media never does. The numbers where consistent with neighborhood population demographics and complaint suspect description.

It's strange. When I got out of the Academy, I worked in a Latino neighborhood. I stopped a lot of Latinos. Then I got transferred to a white neighborhood. I stopped a lot of whites. Now, I work in a black neighborhood. Guess who gets stopped?

930 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:19:47am

re: #921 vxbush

I think that's just an orthodontia problem. Her jaw juts a bit naturally, so it gives her face an odd look.

Maybe, but I seem to see a lot of this and not much of this. She sat through the whole Denver Temple speech with the first look on her face.

931 outsidephilly  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:20:50am

re: #929 Wyatt Earp

It's strange. When I got out of the Academy, I worked in a Latino neighborhood. I stopped a lot of Latinos. Then I got transferred to a white neighborhood. I stopped a lot of whites. Now, I work in a black neighborhood. Guess who gets stopped?



. . . , and don't be doin' no profiling

932 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:21:01am

re: #927 realwest

Thibbbit! You're older than I am, Dusty! That's why we keep brushing them cobwebs off of you!

Hence the name Dustyvet...:) Oh look a nice spider....eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek.

933 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:21:21am

re: #914 Jim in Virginia

Yikes. It wasn't meant to be a live link.

934 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:21:59am

re: #902 tokyobk
Huh

Lincoln slept in the same bed as two men with whom he was very close, Josh Speed and the captain of his guard when Mary Todd was away.


Y'all got a link for that - even if it doesn't matter.

935 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:22:10am

re: #929 Wyatt Earp

It's strange. When I got out of the Academy, I worked in a Latino neighborhood. I stopped a lot of Latinos. Then I got transferred to a white neighborhood. I stopped a lot of whites. Now, I work in a black neighborhood. Guess who gets stopped?

See you're profiling!
RACIST!
/////////

936 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:22:29am

re: #935 jcm

See you're profiling!
RACIST!
/////////

Great, now I'm gonna get sued. :)

937 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:22:44am

re: #930 jcm

Maybe, but I seem to see a lot of this and not much of this. She sat through the whole Denver Temple speech with the first look on her face.

Yes, I see. But if you look at me when I'm concentrating on my computer, I have a scowl on my face--worse than hers. It's the natural way my face looks when it's resting. Again, I think part of it is just the set of her face.

Sorry, but old age and gravity don't play nice with women's faces.

938 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:22:54am

Funny. My brother sent me this:
THANGS I LARNED WILE LIVIN IN LUSIANA
1. Possums sleep in the middle of the road with their feet in the air

2. There are 5,000 types of snakes and 4,998 live in LOUISIANA .

3. There are 10,000 types of spiders. All 10,000 live in LOUISIANA plus a couple no one's seen before.5. It is not a shopping cart; it is a buggy.

4. Fire ants consider your flesh as a picnic

YOU KNOW YOU'RE FROM LOUISIANA IF:

1. You measure distance in minutes.

2. You've ever had to switch from 'heat' to 'A/C' in the same day.

3. You use 'fix' as a verb. Example: 'I'm fixing to go to the store '

4. All the festivals across the state are named after a fruit, vegetable, grain, insect or animal.

5. You install security lights on your house and garage and leave both unlocked.

6. You only own five spices: Tony Chachere's cajun spice, salt, pepper, Tabasco and ketchup.

7. You think that the first day of deer season is a national holiday.

8. You find 100 degrees Fahrenheit 'a little warm'.

9. You know all four seasons: Deer Season, Duck Season, Crawfish Season, Summer.

10. You describe the first cool snap (below 70 degrees) as good gumbo weather.? YEP!

11. A carbonated soft drink isn't a soda, cola or pop...it's a Coke, regardless of brand or flavor. Example: 'What kinda coke you want?'

12. Fried catfish is the other white meat.

939 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:23:13am

re: #922 realwest

*sputter* why you young mflelrds.......stops to put teeth back in... young whipersnapper!

*smacks monitor with walking stick*
*drops stick*
/doomed

940 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:23:18am

re: #936 Wyatt Earp

Great, now I'm gonna get sued. :)

Realwest will handle your defense...:)

942 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:23:26am

realwest!
{manly hug}

943 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:23:38am

re: #940 Dustyvet

Realwest will handle your defense...:)

Oh, great. Should I buy my prison blues now?

///

944 Mich-again  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:23:54am

Odd that since Obama became President, the drones firing missiles in Pakistan only hit militants now. Suspected US missile attack kills 27 in Pakistan.

ISLAMABAD – A suspected U.S. missile strike by a drone aircraft flattened a militant hide-out in northwestern Pakistan on Saturday, killing 27 local and foreign insurgents, intelligence officials said.

Back when GWB was in office, that same story would have reported that the missile killed 27 civilians and we'd get a picture of rage boy stomping on a burning US flag.

945 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:23:59am

re: #934 realwest

Huh


Y'all got a link for that - even if it doesn't matter.

Men sharing beds was common back then.

946 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:24:01am

re: #905 Mich-again
The people in those photos make me ill - violently.

947 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:25:01am

re: #938 reine.de.tout

Funny. My brother sent me this:
....

11. A carbonated soft drink isn't a soda, cola or pop...it's a Coke, regardless of brand or flavor. Example: 'What kinda coke you want?'

That's true of Indiana, too. At least southern Indiana.

948 tokyobk  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:25:20am

re: #934 realwest

Of course, it is well known and not controversial that Lincoln did live with a Josh Speed for several years, and that they slept in the same bed.

The controversy is whether this indicated homosexuality. Just google the names.

The term "laying an egg" as in "...Robin laid a..." is the supposed product of a homosexual union and there was contemporary doggrel about Speed laying a love child egg for Lincoln, meaning this was the subject of speculation in his lifetime.

949 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:26:36am

re: #918 Miss Trixie

Good morning! I'm just fine, thanks for asking. Although it's a bright winter day, I've got the heat cranked 'cause it's very cold and Lil Miss is trembling with every fibre of her being at the patio door in hunt-mode daring the squirrels to scamper along her fence.

What snoo with you?

Doing wonderful...Happy Valentines day to you..
We are leaving in about 1/2 for lunch and shopping...
I'm the guy in the corner holding mrs hoopster purse while she rips through everything in the ENTIRE STORE..
I learned long ago not to ask..Why are you looking at shoes? Didn't you really want to look at.....GAZE...mmmm ok.. I'll be over here if you need me..
LOL

950 Miss Trixie  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:26:37am

re: #922 realwest

*sputter* why you young mflelrds.......stops to put teeth back in... young whipersnapper!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You crack me up! :D

951 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:26:40am

re: #908 Wyatt Earp
"What are ya gonna do?" Uh, get to the firing range more often I reckon.
I know the doc's will try to save his life - it's what I'd want them to do; don't want doctors deciding who deserves to live and who deserves to die.

952 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:26:49am

re: #937 vxbush

Yes, I see. But if you look at me when I'm concentrating on my computer, I have a scowl on my face--worse than hers. It's the natural way my face looks when it's resting. Again, I think part of it is just the set of her face.

Sorry, but old age and gravity don't play nice with women's faces.

Okay.... I guess I don't just get a "pleasant" impression from her. Laura Bush, just exuded a "pleasant" disposition.

953 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:26:51am

re: #947 vxbush

That's true of Indiana, too. At least southern Indiana.

When I hear somebody use soda, cola or pop - I immediately know they're from somewhere else.

954 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:27:13am

re: #945 jcm

Men sharing beds was common back then.

Folks in the army shared bunks in the 1800's, hence the term "bunkie"...Hmmm must have been before the "Don't Talk, Don't Tell Policy"

955 yesandno  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:27:13am

re: #902 tokyobk

I think Obama's sexuality or Michelle's comparative beauty (I find her attractive) are totally irrelevant to the question of his ability to lead effectively.

Lincoln slept in the same bed as two men with whom he was very close, Josh Speed and the captain of his guard when Mary Todd was away. Perhaps these relationships were homoerotic, perhaps homosexual but really who cares? He was a great president and a great man.


His ability to lead effectively is indeed the question of the day. So far, ain't so good.

Leave Lincoln out of this....irrelevant to Obama on every level.

956 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:27:30am

re: #934 realwest

Huh


Y'all got a link for that - eve n if it doesn't matter.


No link but I've heard the same thing, and that sharing a bed with a person of same sex (even a stranger in in ainn) was not unusual. No Holiday Inns back then.

957 abaleh  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:28:44am

Turkey demands Israel explain general's remarks

Turkish media says the Israeli general accused Turkey of massacring Armenians, oppressing Kurds and occupying Cyprus

truth [trooth] ,
–noun, plural truths [troothz, trooths] .
1. the true or actual state of a matter: He tried to find out the truth.
2. conformity with fact or reality; verity: the truth of a statement.
3. a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like: mathematical truths.
4. the state or character of being true.
5. actuality or actual existence.
6. an obvious or accepted fact; truism; platitude.

958 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:28:50am

re: #951 realwest

"What are ya gonna do?" Uh, get to the firing range more often I reckon.
I know the doc's will try to save his life - it's what I'd want them to do; don't want doctors deciding who deserves to live and who deserves to die.

I'm pretty proficient. Never shot less than a 94 in 14 years. Last year, I qualified with a 98. Thankfully, I have never been involved in a shooting. Hopefull, I never will.

959 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:28:51am

re: #954 Dustyvet

Folks in the army shared bunks in the 1800's, hence the term "bunkie"...Hmmm must have been before the "Don't Talk, Don't Tell Policy"

The first chapter of Moby Dick Ishmael and Queequeg shared a room and a bed.

960 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:29:07am

re: #914 Jim in Virginia
ROTFLMAO! Ron Paul, natch! How are you my friend, geez I hardly ever get to see you out here! Hope all is well with you and yours!

961 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:29:07am

re: #956 Jim in Virginia

No link but I've heard the same thing, and that sharing a bed with a person of same sex (even a stranger in in ainn) was not unusual. No Holiday Inns back then.

The good places to stay in those days all had signs that read:

"George Washington slept here"

962 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:29:21am

re: #952 jcm

Okay.... I guess I don't just get a "pleasant" impression from her. Laura Bush, just exuded a "pleasant" disposition.

I think the difference is the eyes, myself.

963 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:29:41am

Well, the Dems have already made Lincoln a liberal with all of this revisionist history spewing forth, so why not make him a gay guy as well? Next, the liberals will start tell everyone Lincoln was "Green" too......UGH

964 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:30:05am

re: #959 jcm

The first chapter of Moby Dick Ishmael and Queequeg shared a room and a bed.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.....you get lonely at sea....

965 Mich-again  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:31:11am

re: #946 realwest

It is disgusting to see what appear to be normal people idolizing a murderer and dancing on the grave of a fallen police officer. Makes me sick too. Moonbats with dead and rotted brains wasting perfectly good oxygen.

966 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:31:20am

re: #964 Desert Dog

Not that there's anything wrong with that.....you get lonely at sea....

"ALL ASHORE WHO'S GOING ASHORE"

967 tokyobk  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:31:20am

re: #955 yesandno

Yes, my original point was that speculating about Obama's sexuality was a waste of time that as you say, what matters is his ability to lead or perhaps inability.

I brought up Lincoln to make the point that on much greater evidence than some crack addict trying to get publicity Lincoln's sexuality could be speculate don but that it was totally irrelevant to his having been a great president and a great man.

Funny how things get turned around in speed posting. I was making the same point you just made.

968 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:31:21am

re: #928 pre-Boomer Marine brat Not for me!

969 loppyd  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:31:26am

Happy Valentine's Day!

970 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:31:50am

re: #955 yesandno

His ability to lead effectively is indeed the question of the day. So far, ain't so good.

Leave Lincoln out of this....irrelevant to Obama on every level.


Look at all the similarities.
They were both from Illinois!
And, ahh, umm...........

971 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:32:19am

re: #959 jcm

The first chapter of Moby Dick Ishmael and Queequeg shared a room and a bed.

/now why did he put the title in italics? ... hmmm

972 winston06  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:32:27am

wtf

[Link: www.amazon.ca...]

Hitler's Mein Kampf is now number 87 on list of Canada's Amazon best sellers.

973 gymmom  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:32:35am

re: #947 vxbush

Grew up in WV, same there. What kinda coke? Diet Rite, 7 Up or RC?

974 winston06  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:32:44am

re: #972 winston06

it is #89

975 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:32:50am

re: #964 Desert Dog

Not that there's anything wrong with that.....you get lonely at sea....

*whack*

LOL

976 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:32:52am

re: #970 Jim in Virginia

Look at all the similarities.
They were both from Illinois!
And, ahh, umm...........

big ears

977 tokyobk  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:33:32am

re: #959 jcm

That is brought up by people saying the Lincoln/Speed relationship was not gay. But Melviille was apparently going for a little transracial homosexual romantic spice. Men on ships. Again, who knows and who cares. Lets hope our country and world does not fall apart on Obama's watch or the next guy or gal who may have to do some cleanup.

978 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:33:57am

Valentines day, marketing.....

And in Eau Claire, Wisconsin a new take on getting more bang for your buck; A free gun to customers who buy a pair of diamond earrings. ...

Someone call Michael Moore!
/////

979 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:34:11am

re: #938 reine.de.tout

Funny. My brother sent me this:
THANGS I LARNED WILE LIVIN IN LUSIANA
1. Possums sleep in the middle of the road with their feet in the air

2. There are 5,000 types of snakes and 4,998 live in LOUISIANA .

3. There are 10,000 types of spiders. All 10,000 live in LOUISIANA plus a couple no one's seen before.5. It is not a shopping cart; it is a buggy.

4. Fire ants consider your flesh as a picnic

YOU KNOW YOU'RE FROM LOUISIANA IF:

1. You measure distance in minutes.

2. You've ever had to switch from 'heat' to 'A/C' in the same day.

3. You use 'fix' as a verb. Example: 'I'm fixing to go to the store '

4. All the festivals across the state are named after a fruit, vegetable, grain, insect or animal.

5. You install security lights on your house and garage and leave both unlocked.

6. You only own five spices: Tony Chachere's cajun spice, salt, pepper, Tabasco and ketchup.

7. You think that the first day of deer season is a national holiday.

8. You find 100 degrees Fahrenheit 'a little warm'.

9. You know all four seasons: Deer Season, Duck Season, Crawfish Season, Summer.

10. You describe the first cool snap (below 70 degrees) as good gumbo weather.? YEP!

11. A carbonated soft drink isn't a soda, cola or pop...it's a Coke, regardless of brand or flavor. Example: 'What kinda coke you want?'

12. Fried catfish is the other white meat.

{reine} Happy Valentines day and best wishes to your family..
That post was great! loved it..Let's do a ' you know you are a Hoosier if:'
1. There are at least 4 empty beer cans in the bed of your truck
2. You can't remember your wives birthday..But you know the exact second deer season opens..
3. ( help me lizards) This will be email worthy in a day or so..

980 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:34:21am

re: #916 jcm
Hey jcm, how are you this morning?
What puts me off is her statement (before becoming First Lady) that when she was overseas she was ashamed to say she was an American.And yes, some of us will always remember that.
Always.

981 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:34:25am

re: #938 reine.de.tout

. . .

YOU KNOW YOU'RE FROM LOUISIANA IF:

. . .

6. You only own five spices: Tony Chachere's cajun spice, salt, pepper, Tabasco and ketchup.
. . .

I just looked in my pantry and sure enough - I only have those five! LOL.

982 doppelganglander  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:35:17am

re: #929 Wyatt Earp

It's strange. When I got out of the Academy, I worked in a Latino neighborhood. I stopped a lot of Latinos. Then I got transferred to a white neighborhood. I stopped a lot of whites. Now, I work in a black neighborhood. Guess who gets stopped?

I hate it when the police are accused of targeting certain groups disproportionately. Do they think you guys have time on your hands to go harassing people for no reason? It's not like you don't have actual criminals to catch.

Also, if the media would like our help spotting a suspect at large, maybe they should tell us more than that he has brown hair and brown eyes.

983 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:35:17am

re: #981 reine.de.tout

I just looked in my pantry and sure enough - I only have those five! LOL.

fried catfish!....mmmmm!

984 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:35:20am

re: #973 gymmom

Grew up in WV, same there. What kinda coke? Diet Rite, 7 Up or RC?

See, the difference between "coke" (generic noun) and "Coke" (product name) is the implied capital when you speak it.

/

985 Mich-again  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:35:25am

re: #970 Jim in Virginia

Look at all the similarities.

Mary Todd Lincoln was certifiably crazy. Michelle Obama is just a bossy moonbat.

986 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:35:36am

re: #958 Wyatt Earp

I'm pretty proficient. Never shot less than a 94 in 14 years. Last year, I qualified with a 98. Thankfully, I have never been involved in a shooting. Hopefull, I never will.

That's a pretty good golf score...
/

987 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:36:04am

re: #981 reine.de.tout

I just looked in my pantry and sure enough - I only have those five! LOL.

LOL!
Good girl!

988 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:36:13am

re: #980 realwest

Hey jcm, how are you this morning?
What puts me off is her statement (before becoming First Lady) that when she was overseas she was ashamed to say she was an American.And yes, some of us will always remember that.
Always.

Morning!
Mr. Mom day. Just fed 'em all breakfast, time to get them occupied and start on some laundry.

989 winston06  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:36:29am

correction

[Link: www.amazon.ca...]

Hitler's Mein Kampf is now number 89 on list of Canada's Amazon best sellers.

990 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:37:01am

re: #979 HoosierHoops

{reine} Happy Valentines day and best wishes to your family..
That post was great! loved it..Let's do a ' you know you are a Hoosier if:'
1. There are at least 4 empty beer cans in the bed of your truck
2. You can't remember your wives birthday..But you know the exact second deer season opens..
3. ( help me lizards) This will be email worthy in a day or so..

The NCAA basketball tournament is a month unto itself, and the championship game is considered a holiday.

991 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:37:21am

re: #980 realwest

Hey jcm, how are you this morning?
What puts me off is her statement (before becoming First Lady) that when she was overseas she was ashamed to say she was an American.And yes, some of us will always remember that.
Always.

Yep, I'll remember that.

992 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:38:40am

re: #943 Wyatt Earp
HEY! NO. Wait a day or two!

993 Mich-again  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:39:26am

re: #991 jcm

Yep, I'll remember that.

To me that is the moment she defined herself. Nothing she can say now can ever remove that indelible mark. I have no use for her at all.

994 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:39:28am

re: #979 HoosierHoops

{reine} Happy Valentines day and best wishes to your family..
That post was great! loved it..Let's do a ' you know you are a Hoosier if:'
1. There are at least 4 empty beer cans in the bed of your truck
2. You can't remember your wives birthday..But you know the exact second deer season opens..
3. ( help me lizards) This will be email worthy in a day or so..

Only 4?
The man who lived behind us "saved" his empty beer cans, and one day he finally got rid of them - he had to rent a TRAILER, and he took away 3 loads.

995 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:39:48am

re: #990 vxbush

The NCAA basketball tournament is a month unto itself, and the championship game is considered a holiday.

If you want to rob a bank..do it on a friday night while everybody..including all the police are at the high school basketball game...

996 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:39:50am

re: #950 Miss Trixie
AHA! My plan is working!

997 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:40:14am

re: #980 realwest

...some of us will always remember that.
Always.

Yes, she did get the prairie fired up with that one.

998 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:41:21am

re: #995 HoosierHoops

If you want to rob a bank..do it on a friday night while everybody..including all the police are at the high school basketball game...

LOL! Yup.

Oh, and we need one about the Indy 500....

999 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:41:30am

re: #986 HoosierHoops

That's a pretty good golf score...
/

I WISH I golfed like that! :)

1000 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:41:47am

re: #958 Wyatt Earp I hope you never do either Wyatt. Do y'all get those "Shoot, Don't Shoot" training stuff - films and all?

1001 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:42:04am

re: #993 Mich-again

To me that is the moment she defined herself. Nothing she can say now can ever remove that indelible mark. I have no use for her at all.

I remember the (D) convention keynote speech by Obama, typical leftist drivel. But the media's fawning over him made me pay attention made start digging. The more I dug the less l liked. She just added to that dislike.

1002 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:42:11am

You know you are from Arizona when......
(long version, sorry)

-You buy salsa by the gallon.

-All of your out-of-state friends start to visit after October but clear out come the end of April.

-You think someone driving while wearing oven mitts is clever.

-Most of the restaurants in your town have the first name "El" or "Los."

-You think six tons of crushed rock makes a beautiful yard.

-You notice your car overheating before you drive it.

-Your house is made of stucco and has a red clay tile roof.

-You can say Hohokam(HO-ho-ko'm) and people don't think you're laughing funny.

-You no longer associate bridges or rivers with water.

-You see more irrigation water on the street than there is in the Salt River.

-You know a swamp cooler is not a happy hour drink.

-You can say 120 degrees without fainting.

-Every other vehicle is a 4x4.

-You can be in the snow, and then drive for an hour and it will be more than 100 degrees.

-Vehicles with open windows have the right-of-way in the summer.

-You have to go to a fake beach for some fake waves.

-People break out coats when the temperature drops below 70.

-You discover, in July, it only takes two fingers to drive your car.

-The pool can be warmer than you are.

-You can make sun tea instantly.

-People will drive over 100 miles just to see snow.

-You run your air conditioner in the middle of winter so you can use your
fireplace.

-Most people will not drink tap water unless they are under dire conditions.

-People with black cars or have black upholstery in their car are automatically assumed to be from out-of-state or nuts.

-You notice the best parking place is determined by shade instead of distance.

-You realize Valley Fever isn't a disco dance.

-You can finish a Big Gulp in 10 minutes and go back for seconds.

-The water from the cold water tap is the same temperature as the hot one.

-You can (correctly) pronounce the words: "Saguaro(?Saguaro (suh-WA'R-o)
An arborescent cactus (Carnegiea gigantea) "Tempe," "Gila Bend," "San Xavier," "Canyon de Chelly," "Mogollon Rim," "Cholla," and "Ajo."

-It's noon in July, kids are on summer vacation, and not one person is moving on the streets.

-You actually burn your hand opening the car door. Sunscreen is sold year round, kept at the front of the checkout counter, a formula less than 30 SPF is a joke, and you wear it just to go to the Circle K.

-Some fool can market mini-misters for joggers and other fools will actually buy them.

-Hot-air balloons can't go up, because the air outside is hotter than the air
inside.

-No one would dream of putting vinyl upholstery in a car.

-You eat hot chilis to cool your mouth off.

-You learn that a seat belt makes a pretty good branding iron.

-The temperature drops below 95, you feel a bit chilly.

-You discover that you can get a sunburn through your car window.

-You break a sweat the instant you step outside at 7:30 a.m. before work.

-Your biggest bicycle wreck fear is, "What if I get knocked out and end up
lying on the pavement and cook to death?"

-You realize that asphalt has a liquid state.

1003 HelloDare  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:42:47am

re: #989 winston06

correction

[Link: www.amazon.ca...]

Hitler's Mein Kampf is now number 89 on list of Canada's Amazon best sellers.

Here it is online.

1004 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:42:48am

re: #997 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes, she did get the prairie fired up with that one.

I read the other day that Mary Lincoln was part bear...Because she was bi-polar.

1005 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:44:01am

re: #1000 realwest

I hope you never do either Wyatt. Do y'all get those "Shoot, Don't Shoot" training stuff - films and all?

Heh. Thsi year we did the FATS program. It's interactive, where you use laser guns to shoot (or not shoot) at suspects on a video. My scenario had a guman holding a shotgun to a guy on the floor. Turned out the gunman was the good guy, and when the guy on the floor reached for a gun, I shot him five times - including three head shots.

I turned to the instructor and said, "Oops!" He replied, "What oops? That's great shooting!"

True story. I LOL the rest of the day.

1006 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:44:11am

re: #1002 Desert Dog

Great ones! I enjoyed.
LOL

1007 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:44:11am

re: #973 gymmom
Um, I'll have me an RC and a moonpie, thank you kindly!

1008 opnion  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:44:23am

re: #993 Mich-again

To me that is the moment she defined herself. Nothing she can say now can ever remove that indelible mark. I have no use for her at all.

Michelle is a very angry , dour woman & to me it shows in her face.
She seems to have little or now loyalty to this nation.
"America is a mean country" I assume she means the America that gave her so much, like an Ivy League education, when by her own admission she wrote a poor SAT.

1009 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:44:27am

re: #994 reine.de.tout

Only 4?
The man who lived behind us "saved" his empty beer cans, and one day he finally got rid of them - he had to rent a TRAILER, and he took away 3 loads.

LOL
The weekend party we had before our kid went to Iraq was a blow-out..
People we stopping by constantly and the were like 30 cases of beer bottles in the trash..It was a mountain for the trashman..Wish I took a picture..
/I'll email you some crazy pics monday of the party...It was so fun.

1010 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:44:27am

re: #978 jcm

Valentines day, marketing.....

Someone call Michael Moore!
/////

I like free gun promos (though they'll never be any where I live). They give the left the two-fingered, two-handed salute it has earned.

1011 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:45:27am

re: #995 HoosierHoops

If you want to rob a bank..do it on a friday night while everybody..including all the police are at the high school basketball game...

So during March Madness all you in Indiana gonna be rooting for my Tar Heels?

1012 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:46:09am

re: #999 Wyatt Earp

I WISH I golfed like that! :)

So..You wanna play sometime? *wink*

1013 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:46:29am

re: #1008 opnion

Michelle is a very angry , dour woman & to me it shows in her face.
She seems to have little or now loyalty to this nation.
"America is a mean country" I assume she means the America that gave her so much, like an Ivy League education, when by her own admission she wrote a poor SAT.

not to mention a 300k job doing nothing...despicable bitch imo...trash

1014 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:46:56am

re: #1012 HoosierHoops

So..You wanna play sometime? *wink*

As long as it's not for money. If I break 100, I do my happy dance. I usually shoot about 105-110.

1015 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:47:49am

re: #1011 Nevergiveup

So during March Madness all you in Indiana gonna be rooting for my Tar Heels?

Excuse me? Them's fightin' words.

1016 opnion  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:48:42am

re: #1013 albusteve

not to mention a 300k job doing nothing...despicable bitch imo...trash

To compound it, by a fotrmer's coworker's accoujnt, Michelle rarely showed up & when she did, she did next to nothing.

1017 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:49:11am

re: #1013 albusteve

not to mention a 300k job doing nothing...despicable bitch imo...trash

I read that they did not hire someone for her job when she left either, they just let that job "go"....which means, it was not a very vital position. Didn't she want to get paid for being the First Lady too? Or, was that just some rumor?

1018 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:49:32am

re: #1016 opnion

To compound it, by a fotrmer's coworker's accoujnt, Michelle rarely showed up & when she did, she did next to nothing.

Hmm. That would be linkworthy to have, just to pull out when needed. Do we have a reference?

1019 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:50:09am

You know you're from Washington when: (edited)

1. You know how to pronounce Sequim, Puyallup, Enumclaw and Issaquah.
2. You consider swimming an indoor sport.
3. You keep snow chains in your trunk but they've never been used.
4. You see a person carrying an umbrella and know they must be a tourist.
5. Eating seafood isn't anything special.
6. Your lawn is mostly moss and you don't really care.
8. You know the difference between "showers followed by rain" and "rain followed by showers".
9. The sight of Mt. Rainier is still awe inspiring.
10. You're extremely picky about your coffee.
11. You yell at the TV if they pronounce the name of a city wrong or make an inaccurate Seattle reference on "Frasier".
12. You rarely wash your car because it's just going to get muddy again tomorrow.
13. You wouldn't dream of putting an air conditioner in your house.
14. You go to Eastern Washington to get some sun.
15. You can drive from your home to a lake, a river or the Puget Sound in 20 minutes or less.
16. You've seen or know someone who has seen Bigfoot.
18. You get a terrible sunburn on the first really nice day of summer.
19. You look forward to SeaFair and all its related activities.
20. You take a heavy coat and a hat with you for a day at the beach.
31. You know more people who own boats than air conditioners.
32. You know the difference between Chinook, Coho and Sockeye salmon.
33. You never go camping without water proof matches and a poncho.
34. You have no concept of humidity without precipitation.
35. You can point to at least 2 volcanoes even if you can't actually see them through the cloud cover.
36. You wear shorts when the temperature gets above 50 but still wear your hiking boots and parka.
37. You switch to your sandals at about 60 degrees but keep your socks on.
40. You measure distance in hours.
58. It's not a real mountain unless it has snow year round and has erupted within the last 200 years
61. You can tell it's summer because the rain is warmer.
64. You realize no education is required to be a weatherman. Just predict, "Partly cloudy with a chance of rain."
65. You have an earthquake story, and so does everyone else you know.
66. You can identify seven different types of rain
68. You thing espresso was invented in Seattle.
73. You know exactly where Tom Hank's boathouse was in "Sleepless In Seattle".
90. You can endure 100 days of rain and wind but an inch of snow means school cancellations.
96. You change your wiper blades more often than your oil.
100. when someone honks at you, you think they are trying to say "hi".

1020 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:50:10am

re: #1002 Desert Dog

When you think that little mom-and-pop place down in the barrio is the best danged restaurant in town.

When "snowbird" is a cussword instead of a song title.

When a chile relleno is NOT a stuffed bell pepper.

1021 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:51:23am

re: #1017 Desert Dog

I read that they did not hire someone for her job when she left either, they just let that job "go"....which means, it was not a very vital position. Didn't she want to get paid for being the First Lady too? Or, was that just some rumor?

true the job was not filled...the FL thing was a rumor I believe....
trailor trash...in a fancy suit

1022 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:51:23am

re: #1011 Nevergiveup

So during March Madness all you in Indiana gonna be rooting for my Tar Heels?

Well..I am a native Californian and played ball there..I moved to a place where these f*ckers love basketball more than I do.. It's like heaven or something...
My pals and I can hang out at a pub for hours and talk about trades, expiring contracts , coaches, and all the players...
With that said.. Indiana has deep Tar heel roots and a local helped you win your last national championship...I'm picking them and rooting for them this year.. Tyler will win it for them this year...

1023 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:51:48am

re: #1020 pre-Boomer Marine brat

When you think that little mom-and-pop place down in the barrio is the best danged restaurant in town.

When "snowbird" is a cussword instead of a song title.

When a chile relleno is NOT a stuffed bell pepper.

Good ones! and true!

1024 opnion  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:52:05am

re: #1018 vxbush

Hmm. That would be linkworthy to have, just to pull out when needed. Do we have a reference?

No, because the individual that told me is a friend of the coworker , who still works there, & does not want trouble.

1025 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:52:27am

re: #1014 Wyatt Earp

As long as it's not for money. If I break 100, I do my happy dance. I usually shoot about 105-110.

Me too.. 3 wood could kick our ass..

1026 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:53:26am

re: #1024 opnion

No, because the individual that told me is a friend of the coworker , who still works there, & does not want trouble.

Ah. Fair enough. I can appreciate that.

1027 Catttt  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:53:35am

re: #916 jcm

What puts me off is the sour look on her face most of the time.

I have a friend who resembles her, which made me feel kinda positive towards Mrs. O to an extent. However, you put your finger on the essential thing that makes my friend much more attractive. She has the intelligence, wit, and a superficial resemblance, including her height (she is 6 feet tall, and I am jealous of that!). But she has more - she is outgoing, welcoming, and friendly in demeanor, even when she is scowling because she is ticked off about something. In essence, she has that essential desire to empathize with you and to share her talents and ideas, rather than show off. I think that - in essence - Mrs. O is not so. In the depth of her personality, Mrs. O. does not want to really connect; she wants to prove something rather than reach out.

1028 yesandno  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:53:54am

re: #990 vxbush

The NCAA basketball tournament is a month unto itself, and the championship game is considered a holiday.

That could apply to NC as well....exept it is the ACC tourney that is most important...the rest of the season is to stomp all the other leagues.

1029 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:54:15am

re: #1025 HoosierHoops

Me too.. 3 wood could kick our ass..

How golf was invented.
Robin Williams ****language warning****

1030 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:54:19am

'Arkay' emailed to demand that I remove his account, so I granted his wish.

1031 opnion  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:54:31am

re: #1017 Desert Dog

I read that they did not hire someone for her job when she left either, they just let that job "go"....which means, it was not a very vital position. Didn't she want to get paid for being the First Lady too? Or, was that just some rumor?

Her job title was either VP or Director of 'Community Outreach"
The job description was to steer indigent patients from U of C Med Ctr to the County Hospital. It was a make believe job.

1032 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:55:00am

re: #1027 Catttt

. . . . In the depth of her personality, Mrs. O. does not want to really connect; she wants to prove something rather than reach out.

Great observation!

1033 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:55:08am

Aha! Here's a link that mentions Michelle's job being eliminated:

[Link: exposingliberallies.blogspot.com...]

It points to a page at cdobs.com.

1034 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:56:04am

re: #1031 opnion

Her job title was either VP or Director of 'Community Outreach"
The job description was to steer indigent patients from U of C Med Ctr to the County Hospital. It was a make believe job.

her wage was astronomical...and when BO hit the senate she copped a 100k raise

1035 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:56:23am

re: #1015 vxbush

Excuse me? Them's fightin' words.

Is anybody from Indiana in the top 10?

1036 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:56:23am

re: #1019 jcm

You know you're from Washington when: (edited)

1. You know how to pronounce Sequim, Puyallup, Enumclaw and Issaquah.

I just happen to know 1/4 of the answer to question #1.
Sequim = squim.
Am I right? (no idea how to pronounce the others)

1037 realwest  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:56:31am

re: #982 doppelganglander
LOL! We had a bankrobber push his way into a bank that's about 1/4 mile from here, with a handgun (which he dropped, kicked around some and then picked up). We get a call from our local PD saying "it was a white male 5'8" to 5'10" wearing a ski mask and surgical gloves, last seen headed for your apartment complex." Now mom and I live in the first ground floor apartment nearest to that bank, so I ask the officer if - assuming he was smart enough to take off the ski mask and gloves and put the pistol in his waistband or somesuch, can they tell me what color jacket or shirt he's wearing? They responded "no, we have no other description". WTF?
I asked if they'd looked at the surveillance cameras yet - long pause - "uh, no, not yet." As we're talking about eleventymillion police cars pull into the apartment complex, officers out and running around with pistols in their hands - one of 'em knocks on our door and asks us if we've seen a white dude with a ski mask, latex gloves about 5'8-5'10" tall running around with a gun in his hand!
Then the cop looks at me - white, 5' 10" tall and - pistol still held in his hand, asks me where have I been for the last 20 minutes or so. So I told him - talking to your dispatcher and hand him the phone!
Sometime racial profile is truly meaningless!

1038 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:56:43am

re: #1028 yesandno

That could apply to NC as well....exept it is the ACC tourney that is most important...the rest of the season is to stomp all the other leagues.

You know..this may e heresy..But i never liked Dean Smith...Never..For many reasons.. But I think Roy Williams is one of my all time favorite coach..I really respect and like the guy...

1039 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:57:00am

And since the same tedious points have come up again in this thread -- even in spite of a quote from the founder of intelligent design that specifically says it's a religious agenda -- here's what I just posted in the thread below:

There is absolutely nothing 'conservative' about wanting to amend the Constitution of the United States, to make it an explicitly Christian document. This goes totally against every principle of the founding fathers -- they built in protections against this kind of thing specifically to prevent what Mike Huckabee is advocating.

And there is nothing "anti-Christian" about standing against this kind of thing. You are absolutely entitled to believe in any God -- or lack thereof -- in this country. But you are not entitled to force the teaching of your beliefs into science classes as "intelligent design" or creationism or whatever name these deceptive people put on it.

A true 'conservative' respects and honors the US Constitution. Mike Huckabee is a fraud.

And by the way, the reason there are a lot of posts about Charles Darwin on the front page is that it was the 200th anniversary of his birthday on Thursday -- as you could easily see if you actually read any of what I posted on the subject. I believe it's an important date, because Darwin was one of the most influential and brilliant scientists in all of history. And it's really sad to see so many self-labeled 'conservatives' who not only don't respect that, but feel threatened by someone who does.

1040 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:57:24am

re: #1030 Charles

'Arkay' emailed to demand that I remove his account, so I granted his wish.

What if I write you and demand $25,000?

1041 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:57:32am

re: #1031 opnion

Her job title was either VP or Director of 'Community Outreach"
The job description was to steer indigent patients from U of C Med Ctr to the County Hospital. It was a make believe job.

That job was a "Chicago Payoff".....no different than Blago trying to get a cushy job for his wife by "selling" the Obama's Senate seat. That is probably why Blago is still hanging around and seems mad.....everyone else in his position did exactly the same thing and nobody said a thing......

1042 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:57:54am

re: #1035 Nevergiveup

Is anybody from Indiana in the top 10?

Not yet, but soon! Give it a year or two.

/hope springs eternal

1043 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:57:56am

re: #1036 FrogMarch

You got it.

1044 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:58:01am

"You Betcha" you're from Minnesota when.....

1. You own only 3 spices...salt, pepper, and ketchup.
2. You have more miles on your snowblower than on your car.
3. You know Ole and Lena personally.
4. You design your halloween costumes to fit over snowmobile suits.
5. You know which leaves make good toilet paper.
6. You know the 4 seasons... winter, still winter, not winter, and almost winter.
7. You owe more money on your snowmobile than your car.
8. You thought the movie "Grumpy Old Men" was a documentary.
9. You think everyone from a different state has an accent.
10. Your husband thinks sexy lingerie is a flannel nightgown with only 8 buttons.
11. You have 10 favorite recipes for venison.
12. You think wild rice is exotic and white rice is a hotdish.
13. Somewhere in the state is a piece of frozen metal with bits of your tongue stuck to it.

1045 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:58:31am

re: #1040 Nevergiveup

What if I write you and demand $25,000?

A visit from Stinky Beaumont and his wrench.
;-P

1046 jaunte  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:58:33am

re: #1030 Charles

'Arkay' emailed to demand that I remove his account, so I granted his wish.

He could just stop clicking a link, but he goes to the trouble of announcing his departure. What a poser.

1047 Nevergiveup  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:58:55am

re: #1045 jcm

A visit from Stinky Beaumont and his wrench.
;-P

Ya, well I was about to spend it?

1048 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 8:59:01am

re: #1040 Nevergiveup

What if I write you and demand $25,000?

same result probably

1049 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:00:08am

re: #1023 Desert Dog

Good ones! and true!

When a (male) friend of yours, who was raised in the barrios, is psychologically incapable of calling an older woman by her first name ... instead of "ma'am".

When you love the cheekiness of cactus wrens.

When you don't do a double-take when you see a coyote trotting across your front yard in the middle of the afternoon.

When you take better care of the teddy bear cholla in your front yard than that desperate clump of flowers in the pot on your back porch.

When your 5 pound piss-ant of a dog absolutely REFUSES to go out in the back yard to do his stuff.

1050 pbird  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:00:18am

re: #1019 jcm

Sounds mostly right. We also can distinguish between Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese and Cambodian cusine. Lots of people can't.

1051 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:00:30am

re: #1042 vxbush

Not yet, but soon! Give it a year or two.

/hope springs eternal

Crean's Crew is going to be a force in 2-3 years..Great coach! Indiana is building to be a force in basketball again..There is not hope involved...But there will be change..

1052 Wishing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:00:34am

re: #1002 Desert Dog

the best: -You discover, in July, it only takes two fingers to drive your car.
ROFL

1053 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:01:05am

re: #1044 Dustyvet

You forgot something about your State Bird

1054 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:01:25am

re: #1050 pbird

Sounds mostly right. We also can distinguish between Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese and Cambodian cusine. Lots of people can't.

Northwest Campers.....

1055 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:01:43am

re: #1051 HoosierHoops

Crean's Crew is going to be a force in 2-3 years..Great coach! Indiana is building to be a force in basketball again..There is not hope involved...But there will be change..

Yes, but prayers never hurt, do they? :D

1056 tokyobk  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:02:29am

re: #1050 pbird

I would only be able to tell the Cambodian because it is not the others. What does Cambodian food taste like?

1057 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:02:44am

re: #1053 Desert Dog

You forgot something about your State Bird


Did not, the State bird of Minnesota is "The Liberal Loon"...:)

1058 yesandno  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:03:17am

re: #1038 HoosierHoops

You know..this may e heresy..But i never liked Dean Smith...Never..For many reasons.. But I think Roy Williams is one of my all time favorite coach..I really respect and like the guy...

Sorry....Dean was the Dean. He will always be the man of Carolina Basketball.

He was smart, innovative, and respectful. He is a breed unknown to the sportsworld today.

And Roy Williams comes from the area I live in. He is a great coach....but remember who taught him.

1059 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:04:57am

re: #1053 Desert Dog

You forgot something about your State Bird

thank god not many of those guys in NM....but conversly I miss the mid west lightning bugs

1060 pbird  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:05:35am

re: #1054 jcm

Oh Lord. I have so been there. We got stuck in the mud of a dirt road in Moclips one night and had to sleep in the van and in the morning I made a fire by chopping into a soaking cedar tree to get dry splinters and made a fire. It was great. Husband had to walk into town and get someone to pull us out. I was 9 months pregnant too.

1061 pbird  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:06:22am

re: #1056 tokyobk

Kinda like Vietnamese, heh.

1062 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:06:27am

re: #1043 jcm

You got it.


:-)
So you the heck to you pronounce Enumclaw?

1063 opnion  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:06:38am

re: #1041 Desert Dog

That job was a "Chicago Payoff".....no different than Blago trying to get a cushy job for his wife by "selling" the Obama's Senate seat. That is probably why Blago is still hanging around and seems mad.....everyone else in his position did exactly the same thing and nobody said a thing......

Of course, it was influence peddling. Blago even is heard on one of his conversations complaining that his wife didn't get a job like Michelle.
I do not think that either one of the Obama"s are as bright as advertised.

1064 VegasRick  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:06:52am

re: #1060 pbird

Oh Lord. I have so been there. We got stuck in the mud of a dirt road in Moclips one night and had to sleep in the van and in the morning I made a fire by chopping into a soaking cedar tree to get dry splinters and made a fire. It was great. Husband had to walk into town and get someone to pull us out. I was 9 months pregnant too.

Pretty cool story. Updinged.

1065 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:07:03am

re: #1039 Charles

Sounds like that email made you mad....

The nice thing about your blog is you can have any opinion or political stance you wish.....you just have to be prepared to back it up if you get called on it. For some people, when they cannot debate or defend their beliefs with rational and empirical answers, they go right to ad hominem or hyperbolic.

Not to be too big of an ass-kisser, but this blog is awesome, keep it up, Charles!

1066 Catttt  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:07:20am

re: #1020 pre-Boomer Marine brat

When you think that little mom-and-pop place down in the barrio is the best danged restaurant in town.

When "snowbird" is a cussword instead of a song title.

When a chile relleno is NOT a stuffed bell pepper.

When I want chile rellenos, I have to make them myself here in Baltimore. My kitchen looks like a cat 6 hurricane hit it afterwards.

1067 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:08:04am

re: #1063 opnion

Of course, it was influence peddling. Blago even is heard on one of his conversations complaining that his wife didn't get a job like Michelle.
I do not think that either one of the Obama"s are as bright as advertised.

Sigh. What can I say? Sometimes life seriously sucks and is pretty unfair. The unworthy end up in positions of honor.

1068 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:08:04am

re: #1044 Dustyvet

"You Betcha" you're from Minnesota when.....

1. You own only 3 spices...salt, pepper, and ketchup.
2. You have more miles on your snowblower than on your car.
3. You know Ole and Lena personally.
4. You design your halloween costumes to fit over snowmobile suits.
5. You know which leaves make good toilet paper.
6. You know the 4 seasons... winter, still winter, not winter, and almost winter.
7. You owe more money on your snowmobile than your car.
8. You thought the movie "Grumpy Old Men" was a documentary.
9. You think everyone from a different state has an accent.
10. Your husband thinks sexy lingerie is a flannel nightgown with only 8 buttons.
11. You have 10 favorite recipes for venison.
12. You think wild rice is exotic and white rice is a hotdish.
13. Somewhere in the state is a piece of frozen metal with bits of your tongue stuck to it.

Now, now- every one knows there's only two seasons in Minnesota- winter and road construction.

1069 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:09:04am

re: #1068 Sharmuta

Now, now- every one knows there's only two seasons in Minnesota- winter and road construction.

I thought that was Illinois.

1070 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:09:18am

re: #1055 vxbush

Yes, but prayers never hurt, do they? :D

I don't ask for much in life..
But if Stanford or Cal ever won the National Championship I would consider streaking down the street drunk and screaming..( If Stanford wins I'll duct tape tree branches to my body )
/whats one night in jail to see a lifelong dream? LOL

1071 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:09:27am

You might be from Illinois if:

You've never met any celebrities
Your idea of a traffic jam is ten cars waiting to pass a tractor on the highway
You've seen all the biggest bands ten years after they were popular
You measure distance in minutes
Down south to you means Kentucky
You know several people who have hit a deer
You have no problem spelling or pronouncing "Des Plaines"
You think Chicago is a completely different state from Illinois.
You know the answer to the question, "Is this Heaven?"
Your school classes were cancelled because of cold
Your school classes were cancelled because of heat
You know where all the Yoders live
You've ridden the school bus for an hour each way
You've ever had to switch from "heat" to "A/C" in the same day
You think ethanol makes your truck "run a lot better."
You know what's knee-high by the Fourth of July
Stores don't have bags, they have sacks
You see people wear bib overalls at funerals.
You see a car running in the parking lot at the store with no one in it no matter what time of the year.
You end your sentences with an unnecessary preposition. Example: Where's my coat at?" or "If you go to the mall I wanna go with."
All the festivals across the state are named after a fruit or vegetable
You can locate Illinois on the United States map
Detassling was your first job
You've ever been on a "Geode Hunt"
Your idea of a really great tenderloin is when the meat is twice as big as the bun and accompanied only by ketchup and a dill pickle slice
You still pronounce the "s" in Illinois.
You learn your pickup will run without a muffler
You install security lights on your house and garage and leave both unlocked
You think of the major four food groups as beef, pork, pop, and Jell-O salad with marshmallows
When asked how your trip was to any foreign, exotic place, you say, "It was different."
You consider being called a "Pork Queen" an honor
People from other states love to hear you say "Illinois" and other words with "Os" in them.
Your dream vacation is a trip to Rock Home Gardens
You carry jumper cables in your car
You drink "pop."
You know what the numbers I-80, 75 and 57 mean
You know what "cow tipping" is

1072 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:09:50am

re: #1067 vxbush

Sigh. What can I say? Sometimes life seriously sucks and is pretty unfair. The unworthy end up in positions of honor.

my gramma used to say you had to find the sunshine

1073 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:10:09am

re: #1062 FrogMarch

:-)
So you the heck to you pronounce Enumclaw?

E-num-claw......

That one is there to fool everyone.

Some times locals will say Enumscratch.

1074 Wishing  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:10:10am

re: #1070 HoosierHoops

I don't ask for much in life..
But if Stanford or Cal ever won the National Championship I would consider streaking down the street drunk and screaming..( If Stanford wins I'll duct tape tree branches to my body )
/whats one night in jail to see a lifelong dream? LOL

Isn't UCONN in first place, both men and women?
Go Huskies!

1075 tokyobk  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:10:16am

re: #1061 pbird

Kinda like Vietnamese, heh.

Lots of cilantro? I notice there is an "I hate cilantro" group on Facebook.

I love Clilantro and Vietnamese food.

1076 opnion  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:10:38am

re: #1067 vxbush

Sigh. What can I say? Sometimes life seriously sucks and is pretty unfair. The unworthy end up in positions of honor.

How true, but shouldn't she have a better attitude about things?
A lot has been handed to both of them, but she is just bitter.
'Barrack Ain't gonna let you stay the way you been" What the hell does that mean?

1077 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:10:51am

re: #1070 HoosierHoops

I don't ask for much in life..
But if Stanford or Cal ever won the National Championship I would consider streaking down the street drunk and screaming..( If Stanford wins I'll duct tape tree branches to my body )
/whats one night in jail to see a lifelong dream? LOL

I so want to be there with a camera. For posterity, of course.

My husband gets really nervous when he watches his teams play b-ball on TV. And during the tournament, he's just on pins and needles. I think you two would get along really well. Of course, he's not that pleased that despite all his knowledge of the game and teams, I have beaten him twice in the last two tournament pools we've had!

1078 jcm  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:11:24am

re: #1060 pbird

Oh Lord. I have so been there. We got stuck in the mud of a dirt road in Moclips one night and had to sleep in the van and in the morning I made a fire by chopping into a soaking cedar tree to get dry splinters and made a fire. It was great. Husband had to walk into town and get someone to pull us out. I was 9 months pregnant too.

We went camping at Lake Ozette, pouring rain. Woke up at 4 am with the Lake in our tent.

1079 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:11:51am

re: #1076 opnion

How true, but shouldn't she have a better attitude about things?
A lot has been handed to both of them, but she is just bitter.
'Barrack Ain't gonna let you stay the way you been" What the hell does that mean?

inferiority complex....resentful
she's trash

1080 VegasRick  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:11:59am

re: #1076 opnion

How true, but shouldn't she have a better attitude about things?
A lot has been handed to both of them, but she is just bitter.
'Barrack Ain't gonna let you stay the way you been" What the hell does that mean?

WAB.

1081 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:12:11am

re: #1073 jcm

E-num-claw......

That one is there to fool everyone.

Some times locals will say Enumscratch.

LOL. thanks.
oh - and I so appreciate #9. The sight of Mt. Rainier is still awe inspiring.
It is glorious.

1082 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:12:52am

re: #1030 Charles

'Arkay' emailed to demand that I remove his account, so I granted his wish.

Troll self-immolates, Lizards laugh.

1083 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:13:24am

re: #1068 Sharmuta

Now, now- every one knows there's only two seasons in Minnesota- winter and road construction.

No, you're thinking of Chicago with that line.

1084 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:13:29am

re: #1058 yesandno

Sorry....Dean was the Dean. He will always be the man of Carolina Basketball.

He was smart, innovative, and respectful. He is a breed unknown to the sportsworld today.

And Roy Williams comes from the area I live in. He is a great coach....but remember who taught him.

I'm sorry..Dean as a person was a great great man..The way he lived and taught young people is about reproach..
I never liked his style of play..nay..hated his style of play..I know he was a mentor to Roy..But his style and Roy's style and coaching is Black and white.. It was probably the era..
But Dean Smith was the Dean

1085 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:14:29am

re: #1076 opnion

How true, but shouldn't she have a better attitude about things?
A lot has been handed to both of them, but she is just bitter.
'Barrack Ain't gonna let you stay the way you been" What the hell does that mean?

If only it meant, "you have to clean up your neighborhoods, pay attention to your children, push them to work hard and get good grades, and keep them off the streets."

1086 opnion  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:14:57am

re: #1079 albusteve

re: #1080 VegasRick

She is a beyoch & she really, really does not like us.

1087 ciaospirit  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:15:20am

re: #921 vxbush

I think that's just an orthodontia problem. Her jaw juts a bit naturally, so it gives her face an odd look.

What's her jaw have to do with those scowling eyes and frowning eyebrows?

1088 BenghaziHoops  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:15:36am

re: #1071 Dustyvet

So i am so much stealing some of that...
Hi Dusty!
/Got the 10 minute warning from mama..yea right..
That woman could live in a bathroom..

1089 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:15:40am

re: #1085 vxbush

If only it meant, "you have to clean up your neighborhoods, pay attention to your children, push them to work hard and get good grades, and keep them off the streets."

B Cosby says that and they hate him for it

1090 opnion  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:15:42am

re: #1085 vxbush

If only it meant, "you have to clean up your neighborhoods, pay attention to your children, push them to work hard and get good grades, and keep them off the streets."

Yeah, but we know better.

1091 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:16:15am

re: #1086 opnion

re: #1080 VegasRick

She is a beyoch & she really, really does not like us.

the feeling is mutual

1092 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:16:25am

re: #1071 Dustyvet

You might be from Illinois if:

All of your local and national political representatives are corrupt.

(fixed)'

1093 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:16:40am

re: #1087 ciaospirit

What's her jaw have to do with those scowling eyes and frowning eyebrows?

Because if her jaw is larger than it "should" be (meaning, if she should be having orthognastic surgery), it can pull the skin down and create some of those features.

1094 albusteve  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:18:21am

re: #1093 vxbush

Because if her jaw is larger than it "should" be (meaning, if she should be having orthognastic surgery), it can pull the skin down and create some of those features.

it takes more muscles to frown than to smile...or whatever

1095 vxbush  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:20:26am

Okay, gotta go start working on the dishes, otherwise I won't have room to make lunch.

1096 tokyobk  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:20:42am

re: #1093 vxbush

Just for my tastes which I can't ask any one to share, calling her on her scowl as an embodiment of a bad attitude is fair but some of the other stuff which she can't help is snide and inappropriate. AND, I think is is exaggerated since she is at least as good looking as any other First Lady and probably better looking and more fit than most of the wives, girlfriends and daughters of the people scowling at her like she is hideous.

1097 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:34:46am
1098 Shay4l  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:34:56am

re: #1030 Charles

'Arkay' emailed to demand that I remove his account, so I granted his wish.

Arkay got upset nobody would argue with them? Weirdo.

1099 pbird  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:36:22am

re: #1078 jcm

I'll bet!

1100 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:36:30am

re: #1069 vxbush

I thought that was Illinois.

No, it's Houston.
Here in Louisiana, we just let the roads fall apart -

1101 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:37:19am
1102 pbird  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:38:14am

re: #1075 tokyobk

Me too!

1103 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:38:27am

re: #1096 tokyobk

Just for my tastes which I can't ask any one to share, calling her on her scowl as an embodiment of a bad attitude is fair but some of the other stuff which she can't help is snide and inappropriate. AND, I think is is exaggerated since she is at least as good looking as any other First Lady and probably better looking and more fit than most of the wives, girlfriends and daughters of the people scowling at her like she is hideous.

Well, she is not a classic beauty, but I think Michelle is an attractive woman - not pretty or beautiful, but very attractive.

She would be even more so if she had any softness about her at all.

1104 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:38:40am

re: #1101 ploome hineni

thanks

1105 Catttt  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:42:58am

re: #1096 tokyobk

Just for my tastes which I can't ask any one to share, calling her on her scowl as an embodiment of a bad attitude is fair but some of the other stuff which she can't help is snide and inappropriate. AND, I think is is exaggerated since she is at least as good looking as any other First Lady and probably better looking and more fit than most of the wives, girlfriends and daughters of the people scowling at her like she is hideous.

I like most of her clothes sense. I didn't like that black dress with the red paint on it, though.

1106 Catttt  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 9:44:00am

re: #1103 reine.de.tout

Well, she is not a classic beauty, but I think Michelle is an attractive woman - not pretty or beautiful, but very attractive.

She would be even more so if she had any softness about her at all.

She would be more so, indeed. My friend is not classically beautiful, but she is stunning.

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1113 winston06  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:42:26am

re: #1003 HelloDare

sick

1114 CommonMan  Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:45:39pm
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