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If you asked me to name the three scariest threats facing the human race, I would give the same answer that most people would: nuclear war, global warming and Windows.

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1 Dustyvet  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:19:05pm

Allo, allo, allo what's all this then...

2 swamprat  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:19:05pm

Lime green polyester.

3 Dustyvet  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:20:31pm

re: #2 swamprat

Lime green polyester.

Jello...:)

4 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:20:53pm

Morning lizards...anyone interested in buying 100 or so locomotives?

P.S. Don't let the 'Canadian National' fool you- most of the locomotives listed are being kept in Illinois.

5 i need a bigger gun  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:21:21pm

Good morning lizards. In about 18 hours, I'll be on the road, heading to Talladega, Alabama to meet up with 160,000 or so of my closest friends for an afternoon of racing and other merriment.

6 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:21:24pm

I've been hoping for an open! HIYA Late night peeps!

7 gmsc  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:21:31pm

re: #3 Dustyvet

Jello...:)

Jello. Ju want to go bowling?

8 Erik The Red  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:22:02pm

Good morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards.

Dv
FN

9 Dustyvet  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:22:16pm

re: #7 gmsc

Jello. Ju want to go bowling?

Image: funny-pictures-british-cat.jpg

10 gmsc  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:22:30pm

re: #6 Floral Giraffe

I've been hoping for an open! HIYA Late night peeps!

Usually about this time of night, you can almost always count on an open thread.

11 swamprat  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:22:50pm

In 1955 a physic was asked what would be considered the greatest threat to the earth in fifty years.

He answered,
"hairspray"
and disappeared into obscurity.

12 Henchman Ghazi-808  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:23:17pm
13 gmsc  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:24:22pm

re: #3 Dustyvet

Jello...:)

re: #7 gmsc

Jello. Ju want to go bowling?

re: #7 gmsc

Jello. Ju want to go bowling?

"I have this new Puerto Rican neighbor. She really likes bowling. She's always asking me, 'Ju want to go bowling? Ju want to go bowling?' I keep telling her, 'No, this Jew doesn't want to go bowling!'"
-Jackie Mason

14 Erik The Red  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:24:48pm

Simplifying Politics!

While walking down the street one day an 'Member of Parliament' is
tragically hit by a truck and dies.

His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

'Welcome to heaven,' says St. Peter. 'Before you settle in, it seems there
is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so
we're not sure what to do with you.'

'No problem, just let me in,' says the man.

'Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have
you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to
spend eternity.'

'Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven,' says the MP.

'I'm sorry, but we have our rules..'

And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down,
down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green
golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are
all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.

Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake
his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at
the expense of the people.

They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and
champagne.

Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly %26 nice guy who has
a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that
before he realizes it, it is time to go.

Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises...

The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Peter
is waiting for him.

'Now it's time to visit heaven.'

So, 24 hours pass with the MP joining a group of contented souls moving from
cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and,
before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

'Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose
your eternity.'

The MP reflects for a minute, then he answers: 'Well, I would never have
said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be
better off in hell.'

So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to
hell.

Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land
covered with waste and garbage.

He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting
it in black bags as more trash falls from above.

The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. 'I don't
understand,' stammers the MP. 'Yesterday I was here and there was a golf
course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and
danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage
and my friends look miserable.

What happened?'

The devil looks at him, smiles and says, 'Yesterday we were campaigning.. ..

Today you voted.'

15 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:25:26pm
16 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:28:52pm

re: #5 i need a bigger gun

Good morning lizards. In about 18 hours, I'll be on the road, heading to Talladega, Alabama to meet up with 160,000 or so of my closest friends for an afternoon of racing and other merriment.

Watching all those cars get their Talladega stripe?

17 Henchman Ghazi-808  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:28:59pm

re: #15 devnulled

Have you ever reached across the aisle? This site isn't about slamming leftists, at least now what I take from it. When necesssary they will be ridiculed.

18 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:30:05pm

re: #15 devnulled

I do not like reaching across the aisle.

Might I request a nice meaty topic that slams the core of the leftists instead of an acquiescence that affirms sanity?

I think we had enough of that.

I'd only reach across the aisle in order to bitchslap them.

/take that you bitch!

19 gmsc  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:30:15pm

re: #11 swamprat

In 1955 a physic was asked what would be considered the greatest threat to the earth in fifty years.

He answered,
"hairspray"
and disappeared into obscurity.

Watch this (the whole special is available here), and play especially close attention to the line at 7:45:

20 Dustyvet  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:30:46pm

A local business was looking for office help. They put a sign in the window, stating the following: "HELP WANTED. Must be able to type, must be good with a computer and must be bilingual. We are an Equal Opportunity Employer."
A short time afterwards, a dog trotted up to the window, saw the sign and went inside. He looked at the receptionist and wagged his tail, then walked over to the sign, looked at it and whined.
Getting the idea, the receptionist got the office manager. The office manager looked at the dog and was surprised, to say the least. However, the dog looked determined, so he lead him into the office. Inside, the dog jumped up on the chair and stared at the manager.
The manager said "I can't hire you. The sign says you have to be able to type." The dog jumped down, went to the typewriter and proceeded to type out a perfect letter. He took out the page and trotted over to the manager and gave it to him, then jumped back on the chair.
The manager was stunned, but then told the dog "the sign says you have to be good with a computer." The dog jumped down again and went to the computer. The dog proceeded to enter and execute a perfect program, that worked flawlessly the first time.
By this time the manager was totally dumb-founded! He looked at the dog and said "I realize that you are a very intelligent dog and have some interesting abilities. However, I *still* can't give you the job."
The dog jumped down and went to a copy of the sign and put his paw on the sentences that told about being an Equal Opportunity Employer. The manager said "yes, but the sign *also* says that you have to be bilingual."
The dog looked at the manager calmly and said, "Meow!"

21 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:31:04pm

Did June kick Ward to the couch? What a pleasant surprise to see you here at this hour, Ward.

22 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:32:00pm

File this under "it figures":

Book Chavez Gave to Obama Is Used as Core Text on Many College Campuses

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez wasn't the first to discover the book he gave to President Obama last week in an attempt to ease diplomatic tensions — college students in the U.S. have been turning its pages for years.

The 317-page "Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent" has been identified on the syllabi of at least 20 U.S. colleges and universities since 2003, and it's been taught for decades on American campuses.

The virulently anti-American book tells how for 500 years Europe and then the U.S. exploited Latin America, leaving it impoverished and governed by corrupt leaders...

23 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:32:36pm

BTW, what the hell is up with having a gay judge at the Miss USA pageant? Who's bright idea was it to put a homosexual male on the panel who finds women off-putting and unattractive so that he can judge how attractive the contestants are? That just goes beyond the borders of absurd. I mean....wouldn't a lesbian judge have made more sense?

When I was dating a beauty pageant contestant....

/Sorry- it's not often I have a chance to use that [factually] in a sentence.

24 I Need A Bigger Gun  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:33:11pm

re: #16 Ward Cleaver

Watching all those cars get their Talladega stripe?

Yep. On the sides...and front...and back...maybe on the top, too.

25 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:33:22pm

re: #21 Sharmuta

Did June kick Ward to the couch? What a pleasant surprise to see you here at this hour, Ward.

Actually she's out volunteering at one of the local Relay For Life (cancer awareness) events.

26 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:33:27pm
27 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:33:41pm

re: #24 I Need A Bigger Gun

Yep. On the sides...and front...and back...maybe on the top, too.

WHEEEEEEE!

28 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:35:11pm

re: #22 Ward Cleaver

File this under "it figures":

Book Chavez Gave to Obama Is Used as Core Text on Many College Campuses

Ugh.

Leftism is so very terribly, boringly predictable. After a while I WANT them to riot and burn things, just to show that they mean it... "YOU CAPITALISTS ARE STEALING OUR STUFF!". Yeah sure, and I think For f-ck's sake, just shut up and do something about it already, you whiners... Ayiyi.

29 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:35:30pm

re: #15 devnulled

I do not like reaching across the aisle.

Might I request a nice meaty topic that slams the core of the leftists instead of an acquiescence that affirms sanity?

I think we had enough of that.

What the hell are you talking about?

30 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:36:08pm

re: #25 Ward Cleaver

Actually she's out volunteering at one of the local Relay For Life (cancer awareness) events.

You got a great Lady, there.

31 TheMatrix31  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:37:49pm
Arek Santikian, 21, a UCLA economics major who helped organize the protest for the Armenian Youth Federation, said he worked for a year on Obama's campaign and was devastated that the president skirted the genocide issue.

"When we are promised something this meaningful and it doesn't happen, it leaves us without hope," Santikian said. "And that was not his message."

LOL @ Armenians thinking Obama was going to do anything about this.

32 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:38:19pm

re: #29 Sharmuta

What the hell are you talking about?

I didn't want to say anything, but that post was as intelligible as a Ron Paulian on crank.

33 Dustyvet  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:39:31pm

This is the transcript of an ACTUAL radio conversation between a US naval ship and Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October 1995. Radio conversation released by the Chief of Naval Operations 10-10-95.

Canadians: Please divert your course 15 degrees South to avoid a collision.

Americans: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees North to avoid a collision.

Canadians: Negative. You will have to divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.

Americans: This is the Captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.

Canadians: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course.

Americans: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS LINCOLN, THE SECOND LARGEST SHIP IN THE UNITED STATES' ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES NORTH, I SAY AGAIN, THAT'S ONE FIVE DEGREES NORTH, OR COUNTER-MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS SHIP.

Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call.

34 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:39:45pm
If you asked me to name the three scariest threats facing the human race, I would give the same answer that most people would: nuclear war, global warming and Windows.


Dave Perry is apparently unaware of Ron Paul.

35 Henchman Ghazi-808  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:40:29pm

re: #26 devnulled

I can easily tolerate a correction and education on the matter.

There seems to a lot of slamming of YEC's and conservatives lately, not just leftists. Some going against the grain of huffing and puffing on some populist causes.

If this place turns into the alternate universe HuffPo or Kos I probably won't post here much. So, coming here to 'slam leftists' doesn't interest me. If that's what you're here for, so be it.

36 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:40:35pm

re: #31 TheMatrix31

LOL @ Armenians thinking Obama was going to do anything about this.

They seriously thought that 0 was going to address that issue? He probably doesn't even know what the Armenian genocide is.

"I've become a screen which people project their hopes and fears upon", so said 0 himself... and my marketing people use this fact to dupe millions of unthinking sheep all over the world, he didn't add.

37 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:41:58pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Dave Perry is apparently unaware of Ron Paul.

Or Internet Explorer.

38 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:43:06pm
39 Killian Bundy  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:43:11pm

re: #15 devnulled

I do not like reaching across the aisle.

/reaching around the aisle?

40 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:43:38pm

Sharmuta, did you listen to Pamela's internet radio interview of Paul Belien? He spun himself into rhetorical knots defending a former SS member while Pamela said next to nothing . During the last third of the interview, it seemed like every other word/phrase out of his mouth was 'Little green footballs'. He sounded obsessed.

41 gmsc  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:43:52pm

re: #33 Dustyvet

Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call.

42 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:44:39pm

American Workers Outsourcing Own Jobs Overseas

43 TheMatrix31  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:44:46pm

re: #36 Pawn of the Oppressor

They seriously thought that 0 was going to address that issue? He probably doesn't even know what the Armenian genocide is.

"I've become a screen which people project their hopes and fears upon", so said 0 himself... and my marketing people use this fact to dupe millions of unthinking sheep all over the world, he didn't add.

Some people voted for the guy on the BASIS of this!

As an Armenian, I'm ashamed to say I'm happy he hasn't (and won't) recognize it, just to spite those bastards who helped saddle us with this garbage for four years.

44 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:45:26pm

re: #38 devnulled

A few years ago, this site had a heavy emphasis on truth in the whole muslim extremist vs world reporting. Liars were exposed. Much was learned.

Nowadays this site has turned sights on faux right-wingers, which is noble but boring overall. .. IMHO.

I am humbly requesting a spotlight on a nice juicy gotcha on a leftist tenet or two.

People who say "IMHO" are usually without any humility whatsoever.

That and the meaningless syntax of your first post are two big red flags, bub.

45 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:46:18pm

re: #38 devnulled

A few years ago, this site had a heavy emphasis on truth in the whole muslim extremist vs world reporting. Liars were exposed. Much was learned.

Nowadays this site has turned sights on faux right-wingers, which is noble but boring overall. .. IMHO.

I am humbly requesting a spotlight on a nice juicy gotcha on a leftist tenet or two.

Well- once one understands that a lot of the counter-jihad rhetoric was being pushed by bigots, then the bloom starts to fade from the rose.

And perhaps once the right stops hyperventilating over distractions, we'll see some serious spotlights.

46 Killian Bundy  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:46:26pm

re: #40 MrPaulRevere

while Pamela said next to nothing

/and the moon landings were fake

47 thelongblogger  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:47:04pm

re: #33 Dustyvet


I've been familiar with that joke for at least 30 years, and I assume it's much older than that.

Instructors at merchant marine academies and such places sometimes ask their students to "list all the things that are wrong" with that joke.

The best reply I ever heard of was "It's not funny!"

48 Henchman Ghazi-808  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:47:23pm

re: #38 devnulled

Go to Stormfront or Gates of Vienna if you want some excitement. There's lots of hooligans there.

49 [deleted]  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:47:28pm
50 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:47:30pm

"devnulled":

Registered since: Aug 20, 2007 at 6:46 pm
No. of comments posted: 48
No. of links posted: 0
Karma -81

Stinky, there's one over here. We got 'im cornered.

51 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:48:12pm

re: #40 MrPaulRevere

Sharmuta, did you listen to Pamela's internet radio interview of Paul Belien? He spun himself into rhetorical knots defending a former SS member while Pamela said next to nothing . During the last third of the interview, it seemed like every other word/phrase out of his mouth was 'Little green footballs'. He sounded obsessed.

I'm sure he is. Cockroaches don't like the light.

52 Jack Burton  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:49:00pm

re: #40 MrPaulRevere

He spun himself into rhetorical knots defending a former SS member while Pamela said next to nothing.

What's the over/under on her getting a clue? You would figure that a Jewish woman sitting next to someone shes promoting while hes defending the SS might have a light bulb turn on inside her noggin.

53 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:49:35pm

re: #52 ArchangelMichael

But- she's fighting jihad! And that's all that matters.

54 Syrah  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:49:53pm

re: #26 devnulled

LGF is what it is.

If you are not happy with what it is, it may not be for you.

Some like it. Many don't. It is what it is.

There are others that may be more to your liking.

55 Syrah  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:50:27pm

And that is it for me tonight. Good night all.

56 gmsc  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:51:22pm

re: #55 Syrah

And that is it for me tonight. Good night all.

G'Nite Syrah

57 Henchman Ghazi-808  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:51:50pm

re: #49 devnulled

Hmmm.... Try People's Cube. Critique and ridicule without the freaky zealotry.

58 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:52:17pm
59 Sharmuta  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:53:17pm

re: #55 Syrah

And that is it for me tonight. Good night all.

Good night, my friend.

60 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:53:32pm

re: #55 Syrah

Que Syrah Syrah......

G'nite!

61 gmsc  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:53:54pm

In a recent poll of UK music lovers, they voted 1 song as the best song of all time. Any guesses as to what it is?

Here's the UC Men's Octet performing the song a cappella in 7-part harmony:

62 Cato the Elder  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:54:17pm

re: #52 ArchangelMichael

What's the over/under on her getting a clue? You would figure that a Jewish woman sitting next to someone shes promoting while hes defending the SS might have a light bulb turn on inside her noggin.

Never happen. The cognitive dissonance and dissociation she befogs her mind with are too strong. Narcissistic defenses too indurated. Paranoid ideational system too ramified.

If something breaks through all that, it is immediately suppressed. Any other response would cause an immediate psychotic break.

She's in a permanent fugue state. Not only a pernicious hater, she's a very, very sick woman.

63 Zimriel  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:54:23pm

While Drudge Report is worrying about swine flu, Pakistan is still in trouble.

Not much news here that we didn't have on Wednesday, except that the Taliban in Buner province are now roaming uninhibited through Mardan province as well. But the article correctly labels that "opportunistic". There's nothing important in Mardan except insofar as it extends the encirclement of Swabi province.

The places to watch are Mansehra province to the east, where the Taliban could cut off water and power to Islamabad; and the aforementioned Swabi to the south, which includes certain highways used by the more civilised portion of the country.

64 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:54:50pm

re: #52 ArchangelMichael

One would think so. I was floored, she let him ramble on for several minutes about the poor SS man and said nothing.

65 pat  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:55:28pm

I am off also. Nite all.

66 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:56:14pm

Since this is making the rounds tonight....

Big box and Maru

/Namaste, Y'all

67 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:56:28pm

re: #65 pat

G'nite, pat!

68 gmsc  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:56:55pm

re: #65 pat

I am off also. Nite all.


Sleep well, pat.

69 Zimriel  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:57:28pm

re: #40 MrPaulRevere

Sharmuta, did you listen to Pamela's internet radio interview of Paul Belien? He spun himself into rhetorical knots defending a former SS member while Pamela said next to nothing . During the last third of the interview, it seemed like every other word/phrase out of his mouth was 'Little green footballs'. He sounded obsessed.

The Little Green Whale?

"and I'll chase him 'round Atlas Shrugs, and 'round JihadWatch, and 'round Ace's comment threads, and 'round perdition's flame before I give him up"

70 swamprat  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:58:20pm

A leftists' view of the greatest threats to the world;

Global warming
Meat
Stopping nuclear proliferation (New for the millennium, because Russia is selling nuke tech)
Solar power (another new one, but give it time)
Any opposition to dictators
Any opposition to using fear to affect changes in government
(opposing terrorism just breeds more terror)
Patriotism ( also called tribalism, or chauvinism)
Independence (unilateralism)
Freon (passe)
Disposable diapers (also passe)
Bush (getting stale)
China (this may get really big)
Free Trade (another startling reversal)
Windmills

I know I missed a few.

71 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:58:31pm

re: #30 Sharmuta

You got a great Lady, there.

Well, she's home. Time for bed.

72 Jack Burton  Fri, Apr 24, 2009 11:58:37pm

re: #64 MrPaulRevere

That's why I was asking. I thought perhaps the silence meant just maybe it was sinking in that she was doing something really disgusting.

73 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:00:00am

re: #71 Ward Cleaver

Good night. :)

74 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:00:00am

Today in History, April 25th:

Highlights of this day in history: Radio pioneer Guglielmo Marconi born; 'America' first used on a world map; U.S. and Soviet troops meet in World War II; The Hubble Space Telescope deployed into orbit; Jazz singer Ella Fitzgerald born.

75 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:00:21am
76 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:00:30am

re: #52 ArchangelMichael

[Link: www.stockheadquarters.com...]

For me, the yearly, the like $300 subscription, after three years, has never failed to blow away paying for itself.

/and I pay up for the premium IBD charts too

77 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:00:45am

re: #70 swamprat

A leftists' view of the greatest threats to the world;

Global warming
Meat
Stopping nuclear proliferation (New for the millennium, because Russia is selling nuke tech)
Solar power (another new one, but give it time)
Any opposition to dictators
Any opposition to using fear to affect changes in government
(opposing terrorism just breeds more terror)
Patriotism ( also called tribalism, or chauvinism)
Independence (unilateralism)
Freon (passe)
Disposable diapers (also passe)
Bush (getting stale)
China (this may get really big)
Free Trade (another startling reversal)
Windmills

I know I missed a few.

Little Green Footballs
;)

78 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:00:47am

re: #69 Zimriel

Ace had a thread up yesterday telling his followers to tone it down in the comments as the vitriol may be scaring away badly needed advertisers. He doesn't run a blog, he runs an internet frat house.

79 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:01:11am

re: #71 Ward Cleaver

Well, she's home. Time for bed.

Sleep well, Ward.

80 freetoken  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:01:50am

re: #15 devnulled

I do not like reaching across the aisle.

If Kana was across the aisle I would reach across...

81 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:03:20am

re: #78 MrPaulRevere

Ace had a thread up yesterday telling his followers to tone it down in the comments as the vitriol may be scaring away badly needed advertisers. He doesn't run a blog, he runs an internet frat house.

Well, gee- when you intentionally attract people you know will bring their vitriol by repeatedly posting red meat for the rabids, why would you be surprised that it affects other aspects of your blog?

Sorry, Ace- I have zero fucking sympathy for you.

82 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:06:51am

re: #76 Killian Bundy

[Link: www.stockheadquarters.com...]

For me, the yearly, the like $300 subscription, after three years, has never failed to blow away paying for itself.

/and I pay up for the premium IBD charts too

But if you don't like the 30 day free trial, make sure you shut it down.

/like most of these free offers, the default is you want them to charge your credit card, unless you affirmatively cancel

83 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:07:55am

re: #81 Sharmuta

That thread he threw up about LGF the other day without any editorial comment was a masterpiece of passive aggressive behavior. He knew what would happen, and let it happen. THAT was his passive editorial comment.

84 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:08:00am

re: #76 Killian Bundy

[Link: www.stockheadquarters.com...]

For me, the yearly, the like $300 subscription, after three years, has never failed to blow away paying for itself.

/and I pay up for the premium IBD charts too

Most of the larger public libraries, and a surprising number of smaller ones, have a subscription to IBD, so even if you can't afford it, you can still read it regularly.

85 I Need A Bigger Gun  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:08:13am

And now for something completely different...a lot of people don't realize that the "A" in the UAW not only stands for Auto Workers, but also stands for Aerospace Workers. Aerospace, as in Defense. Obama and his minions are doing what they can to save the jobs of the Auto Workers, but don't give a shit about the loss of jobs their defense cuts are going to cause among the Aerospace Workers, such as myself and others here at the Lockheed Martin plant in Orlando (UAW Local 788, for those keeping score at home). I got laid off the last time a Democrat was in the White House (Clinton in '93). I don't want to have to go through that again. Okay, the rant is over...for now.

86 Jack Burton  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:08:29am

re: #78 MrPaulRevere

Ace had a thread up yesterday telling his followers to tone it down in the comments as the vitriol may be scaring away badly needed advertisers. He doesn't run a blog, he runs an internet frat house.

Yeah but it looks like it was a "stop saying 'cocksucker' or the sponsors will bail" kind of post rather than a "stop being insufferable assholes or the sponsors will bail" kind. I don't think he was in anyway trying to civilize the Star Wars cantina he's allowed to form there.

87 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:09:42am

re: #75 devnulled

Fair enough. How about you start a thread that you feel is more to your liking and we'll see if it flies. I'm quick to jump in on ridiculing leftists or their policies. However, 'slamming the core of the leftists instead of an acquiescence that affirms sanity' sounds like you just want a good fight or want to pick a fight against your regular foil, no matter what it's over.

That's exactly what Kos looks like when I go there.

88 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:10:50am

re: #84 gmsc

Most of the larger public libraries, and a surprising number of smaller ones, have a subscription to IBD, so even if you can't afford it, you can still read it regularly.


Great idea! Now if only there was a larger public library 'round here....

89 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:11:51am
90 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:12:00am

re: #78 MrPaulRevere

Ace had a thread up yesterday telling his followers to tone it down in the comments as the vitriol may be scaring away badly needed advertisers. He doesn't run a blog, he runs an internet frat house.

Yeah, I saw that. I was hoping he'd say something about the vitriol against LGF, but he was warning against dropping misogynistic catchwords.

As for the frat house atmosphere (beyond the misogyny, which we don't get to blame Ace for, since he's laid down the law): just like Charles has his standards, Ace has his. I'm fine with people blowing off steam; some people need to do that online and I haven't always been angelic myself. I draw the line at slander, racism, and antiSemitism, personally, and Ace does pretty well with keeping the latter two at least shunned if not banned.

Ace loses me with his open threads of "hey everyone! we're bashing SHARMUTA in here! woo hooo!". I know he doesn't say that, but whenever he opens a post with mention of LGF he KNOWS that's what his commenters are itching to do.

He's a sight better than Jeff Goldstein though; I just don't understand what's happened to that man.

91 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:12:46am

re: #83 MrPaulRevere

That thread he threw up about LGF the other day without any editorial comment was a masterpiece of passive aggressive behavior. He knew what would happen, and let it happen. THAT was his passive editorial comment.

It was very passive-aggressive, cowardly and cold-hearted way to treat someone who's been nothing but a friend. If he had articulated what his beef was, I could at least respect that more than this subtle middle finger.

92 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:13:13am

re: #84 gmsc

Most of the larger public libraries, and a surprising number of smaller ones, have a subscription to IBD, so even if you can't afford it, you can still read it regularly.

/the advanced charts cost a grand a year, again, they pay for themselves in a couple good trades, IBD advocates militant buy sell rules

93 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:14:05am

re: #86 ArchangelMichael

Yeah but it looks like it was a "stop saying 'cocksucker' or the sponsors will bail" kind of post rather than a "stop being insufferable assholes or the sponsors will bail" kind. I don't think he was in anyway trying to civilize the Star Wars cantina he's allowed to form there.

How about "quit acting like jerks because I, personally, don't like jerks"?

/but then, as mentioned, AoS is not my blog

94 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:14:37am

re: #91 Sharmuta

It was very passive-aggressive, cowardly and cold-hearted way to treat someone who's been nothing but a friend. If he had articulated what his beef was, I could at least respect that more than this subtle middle finger.

That reminds me: Passive Agressive Notes.com

95 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:16:41am

I just have to say- there is something seriously wrong with the right-wing blogosphere if bashing an anonymous commenter at one blog takes precedence over attacking real enemies of this country and our Constitution. Some people have a few priorities they should re-examine.

96 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:16:42am

re: #91 Sharmuta

It was very passive-aggressive, cowardly and cold-hearted way to treat someone who's been nothing but a friend. If he had articulated what his beef was, I could at least respect that more than this subtle middle finger.

Has anyone tried emailing him to figure out what his train of thought was? I had the idea that his commenters were hijacking other threads to bash LGF and he opened the new ones to give them an on-topic place to do it. Maybe he just didn't know what he was doing and/or had an off day.

97 mattm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:18:05am

CT College axed trees on Earth Day to expand, urban design activists (WTF?) hold memorial, demand Private property owners be banned from cutting down trees.

[Link: www.wfsb.com...]

I will be sure I let the school know I support them in this manner.

98 freetoken  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:18:10am

re: #81 Sharmuta

Ace of Spades has never impressed me (the few times I've visited it and read through the front page) as a site for critical analysis of for breaking new ground. Seems more like cheerleading. Some people like that and apparently others need it, but that approach ends up creating followers, not thinkers or originators.

Few blogs out there try to plow new ground. It is much easier to just keep telling people what they want to hear. However, it is only when we are challenged to think anew that we gain new insight into topics.

99 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:18:19am

devnulled, if you are reading, I'm not quite sure what your point was. If you want to bash the hard left, by all means do so, in an intelligent manner.

100 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:18:30am

re: #95 Sharmuta

I just have to say- there is something seriously wrong with the right-wing blogosphere if bashing an anonymous commenter at one blog takes precedence over attacking real enemies of this country and our Constitution. Some people have a few priorities they should re-examine.

I think you may have hit the nail on the head here, Sharmuta. It's easier to take on one commenter than a big complex problem like the weakening of the US Constitution, so more people will take the easy route.

101 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:18:31am

re: #92 Killian Bundy

/the advanced charts cost a grand a year, again, they pay for themselves in a couple good trades, IBD advocates militant buy sell rules

/and yeah, you're insane if you don't at least pay the $300 annual subscription to IBD, unlesss you sign up for the paper version, not sure who still likes their paper a day late

102 Jack Burton  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:19:19am

re: #91 Sharmuta

If he had articulated what his beef was, I could at least respect that more than this subtle middle finger.

Their beef is:

[] LGF doesn't follow my idea of conservative dogma to the letter than is therefore apostate!
[] LGF called me on my nazi-loving/science-hating/jew-hating/conspiracy-mongering and is therefore evil!
[] LGF doesn't hyperventilate over every exaggerated non-story promoted by WND and is therefore a den of lefties!

I'm sure every one of Charles "fans" fits into one of those 3.

103 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:20:56am

re: #101 Killian Bundy

/and yeah, you're insane if you don't at least pay the $300 annual subscription to IBD, unlesss you sign up for the paper version, not sure who still likes their paper a day late

This is the longest commercial for Investor's Business Daily I've ever seen.

They can't be doing that well if they can't afford their own ad on Little Green Footballs, and have to resort to having Killian Bundy push for subscriptions via free posts, instead.

104 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:23:31am

re: #100 gmsc

I think you may have hit the nail on the head here, Sharmuta. It's easier to take on one commenter than a big complex problem like the weakening of the US Constitution, so more people will take the easy route.

Bashing me isn't going to stop either jihad or 0bama. It's not going to change scientific consensus, either. I know why they do it, and I'm here to say that I'm not going to stop.

105 wiffersnapper  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:23:36am

Windows plays my games, Mac can't.

106 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:24:31am

re: #102 ArchangelMichael

Their beef is:

[] LGF doesn't follow my idea of conservative dogma to the letter than is therefore apostate!
[] LGF called me on my nazi-loving/science-hating/jew-hating/conspiracy-m ongering and is therefore evil!
[] LGF doesn't hyperventilate over every exaggerated non-story promoted by WND and is therefore a den of lefties!

I'm sure every one of Charles "fans" fits into one of those 3.

Ace isn't exactly dogmatic; and he also hates nazis, isn't a fan of creationism, boots out antiSemites and can't stomach Alex Jones.

But #3, now... he was badly embarrassed by the lengthy snark which the leftie "Jon Swift" blogger posted last year, and LGF reprinted. Ace featured heavily in that snark as one of the more gullible bloggers on the Right.

107 capitalist piglet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:24:49am

re: #96 Zimriel

Has anyone tried emailing him to figure out what his train of thought was? I had the idea that his commenters were hijacking other threads to bash LGF and he opened the new ones to give them an on-topic place to do it. Maybe he just didn't know what he was doing and/or had an off day.

I was over there for the first of the two, and he had commented, and was pretty neutral. He didn't pick up a brick to throw, but he didn't really discourage people either. I posted a bit in defense of Charles but there are a couple of people there who argue like they're part of a Monty Python skit, and I finally had to just get out because we were getting nowhere. "I know you are, but what am I?", Pee Wee Herman kind of stuff.

Immature doesn't begin to describe it. I was surprised to see him give them another thread to do the same thing, honestly.

108 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:26:03am

re: #103 gmsc

This is the longest commercial for Investor's Business Daily I've ever seen.

They can't be doing that well if they can't afford their own ad on Little Green Footballs, and have to resort to having Killian Bundy push for subscriptions via free posts, instead.

burn!

I seriously doubt Killian is a shill, but that was teh funnie.

109 capitalist piglet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:26:04am

re: #102 ArchangelMichael

Their beef is:

[] LGF doesn't follow my idea of conservative dogma to the letter than is therefore apostate!
[] LGF called me on my nazi-loving/science-hating/jew-hating/conspiracy-m ongering and is therefore evil!
[] LGF doesn't hyperventilate over every exaggerated non-story promoted by WND and is therefore a den of lefties!

I'm sure every one of Charles "fans" fits into one of those 3.

I saw one guy say that Charles was pissing people off all over the 'net, at places like FreeRepublic.

[SNORT.]

110 wiffersnapper  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:26:57am

re: #17 BigPapa

I believe being a leftist is ridicule enough!

111 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:26:59am

Now that TOTUS has "given up" on legally trying to stop the "pictures" from being thrown on the worldwide anti-U.S. incitement pyre, CIA agents and military everywhere are suddenly questioning their career choice.

/who needs frothing five yearre: #103 gmsc

112 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:27:09am

re: #105 wiffersnapper

Windows plays my games, Mac can't.

Maybe that's because you have a Windows machine, and keep buying the Windows version of your games.

/What?!?

113 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:28:13am

re: #104 Sharmuta

They had a good run with the Pajamas Media money, and got sloppy. The rubber is now hitting the road, and the wheat is separating from the chaff (sorry for all the cliche's).

114 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:28:20am

Frankly, I wonder if Ace didn't make a calculated decision to appease the base he already had in favor of trying to attract something better, which is hard work. He took what he perhaps thought was the easy route, but in the end, I think he'll regret this.

115 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:29:09am

re: #109 capitalist piglet

I saw one guy say that Charles was pissing people off all over the 'net, at places like FreeRepublic.

[SNORT.]

Oh, yeah. Because if I want sober analysis of the world today, FreeRepublic would be my first stop.

Right after IndyMedia and American Renaissance. /

116 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:29:37am

re: #103 gmsc

This is the longest commercial for Investor's Business Daily I've ever seen.

They can't be doing that well if they can't afford their own ad on Little Green Footballs, and have to resort to having Killian Bundy push for subscriptions via free posts, instead.

Go ahead, ignore IBD.

/money in, way more money out, works for me

117 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:29:40am

This is interesting. Go and vote and look at the results.

What grade would you give the president after 100 days?

118 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:29:54am

re: #110 wiffersnapper

humor is still allowed on LGF!

119 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:30:04am

re: #113 MrPaulRevere

But they gotta learn to crawl before they can learn to walk and it ain't over 'til it's over.....they just gotta take it one day at a time and whatever doesn't kill them will make them stronger.

120 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:30:48am

re: #117 Erik The Red

This is interesting. Go and vote and look at the results.

What grade would you give the president after 100 days?

Fourth?

121 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:30:50am

re: #117 Erik The Red

This is interesting. Go and vote and look at the results.

What grade would you give the president after 100 days?

Wow- that's pretty overwhelming.

122 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:31:38am

re: #117 Erik The Red

This is interesting. Go and vote and look at the results.

What grade would you give the president after 100 days?

Watch – as soon as Daily Kos grabs on to the existence of this poll, they'll have their bots all over it.

123 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:32:15am

re: #117 Erik The Red

wtf?

124 freetoken  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:32:58am

re: #117 Erik The Red

Hmmm... I gave him a "C", which turns out to be the least selected option. Evidently the readers of that site tend to be highly partisan.

125 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:33:35am

re: #124 freetoken

I gave him a "C" as well.

126 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:33:59am

re: #117 Erik The Red

This is interesting. Go and vote and look at the results.

What grade would you give the president after 100 days?

Wow! Out of 11,461 votes (at this writing), 8676 gave him an F!

127 capitalist piglet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:34:18am

re: #115 Zimriel

Oh, yeah. Because if I want sober analysis of the world today, FreeRepublic would be my first stop.

Right after IndyMedia and American Renaissance. /

Yes, I'm sure Charles would be devastated if he thought Freepers had a problem with him. There goes the credibility!

///// must I?

128 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:34:18am

re: #108 Zimriel

I seriously doubt Killian is a shill, but that was teh funnie.

Yeah, I don't get paid to shill for anyone.

/just revealing how I make a living

129 mattm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:35:16am

re: #122 gmsc

Watch – as soon as Daily Kos grabs on to the existence of this poll, they'll have their bots all over it.

The one smart thing he did was to not participate in the anti-racism UN conf. with Iran's nutjob leader.

130 Jack Burton  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:35:17am

re: #106 Zimriel

Ace isn't exactly dogmatic; and he also hates nazis, isn't a fan of creationism, boots out antiSemites and can't stomach Alex Jones.

But #3, now... he was badly embarrassed by the lengthy snark which the leftie "Jon Swift" blogger posted last year, and LGF reprinted. Ace featured heavily in that snark as one of the more gullible bloggers on the Right.

What exactly started the LGF hate there then? Is it because Charles didn't go into convulsions and hysterics over that stupid leaked DHS memo like every other idiot I know did? Is it because we have the self-esteem to know that when the DHS is hand-wringing about potential domestic terrorism by Neonazis and militia-members they don't mean us?

131 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:35:30am

re: #124 freetoken

re: #125 Sharmuta

re: #126 gmsc

I was feeling generous and gave him a 'D'

132 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:35:42am

I gave him a D. I wonder if this is a true reflection of what the Orlando people think or if it has been hijacked.

133 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:36:54am

re: #129 mattm

The one smart thing he did was to not participate in the anti-racism UN conf. with Iran's nutjob leader.

No argument there.

I'm guessing he saw no real upside to attending, as well as no real downside to boycotting it. Even he could probably see that his base, while they would froth over the boycott for a few days, would drop the issue fairly quickly.

134 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:37:52am

re: #132 Erik The Red

Me too. That just seems so out of whack with the rest of the polling. Something smells fishy.

135 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:37:53am

re: #126 gmsc

Wow! Out of 11,461 votes (at this writing), 8676 gave him an F!

6000 of those would have voted "Ron Paul" if that had been an option...

136 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:38:13am

re: #125 Sharmuta

That remark he made about 'America has a special responsibility to lead the way in ridding the world of nuclear weapons because we are the only power who has used them' really got under my skin. I had to give him an 'F' for that if nothing else. But that's just me.

137 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:40:16am

I can't believe none of you went "Ron Paul!"

Devnull is right, this place is dead LOL.

138 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:40:26am

I wonder if it's not due to some progressive blowback- that we're still in Iraq. It's not as if the far left got what they thought they were getting with 0bama- he's ended up defending Bush policies.

139 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:41:42am

re: #138 Sharmuta

I wonder if it's not due to some progressive blowback- that we're still in Iraq. It's not as if the far left got what they thought they were getting with 0bama- he's ended up defending Bush policies.

/um, no

140 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:43:20am

re: #131 Fenway_Nation

re: #125 Sharmuta

re: #126 gmsc

I was feeling generous and gave him a 'D'

Perhaps I was feeling influenced by this thread, but I gave him an I, a B and a D!
;)

141 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:44:17am

re: #137 BigPapa

I can't believe none of you went "Ron Paul!"

Devnull is right, this place is dead LOL.

Correction - that joke is dead after it was repeatedly run into the ground by Paulians who rigged every internet poll they could find.

142 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:45:30am

Three Rednecks were working up on a cell phone tower: Cooter, Ronnie and Donnie.

As they start their descent Cooter slips,
falls off the tower and is killed instantly.
As the ambulance takes the body away,
Ronnie says, 'Well, damn, someone should go and tell his wife.'

Donnie says, 'OK, I'm pretty good at that sensitive stuff, I'll do it..

'Two hours later, he comes back carrying a case of Budweiser.

Ronnie says, 'Where did you get that beer, Donnie?' '

Cooter's wife gave it to me,' Ronnie replies.

'That's unbelievable, you told the lady her husband was dead and she gave you a case of beer?'

'Well, not exactly', Donnie says. 'When she answered the door, I said to her, "you must be Cooter's widow".'

She said, 'You must be mistaken, I'm not a widow.'

Then I said, 'I'll bet you a case of Budweiser you are.'

Rednecks Are Good At This Sensitive Crap.

143 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:45:45am

re: #116 Killian Bundy

Go ahead, ignore IBD.

/money in, way more money out, works for me

Sold MYGN two days ago, all IBD yearly subscriptions paid for and then some.

/is it still April?

144 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:47:26am
145 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:47:49am

re: #141 gmsc

It's still funny to me. I still snicker every time there's a poll, especially if not to do with Paul or politics, and somebody goes 'Ron Paul!'

146 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:49:10am

re: #144 devnulled

How many of us need to be reminded twice a day not be a racist moron?

Do you read the comments on those threads, because you might be surprised.

147 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:49:25am

re: #130 ArchangelMichael

What exactly started the LGF hate there then?

I really can't speak for Ace, since he hasn't spoken for himself.

But I do know what started the LGF hate at Goldstein's: It was Charles's comment that "I hope Obama fails" was irresponsible. Some disclosure here - I sided with Goldstein over that one, initially, and defended him here (and Charles over there, because hey, I like living dangerously). I think most of the Right went with Goldstein - except for Patterico, but his blog sucks ass anyway, so he didn't matter.

But then Goldstein went further and further trying to find something on LGF to post on his site as a focus of "Hundred Comment Hate". People like SmallDeadAnimals's Kate and, apparently, Ace and his bunch were still high on the idea of Goldstein as Ulysses Grant - "I can't spare him, he fights" - and since the Right certainly hasn't been getting any leadership from the Republicans these days, they followed Goldstein.

(This above was just my observation and could well be wrong... feel free to downding this one if it strikes you as wholly off base, but if so, tell me where it's wrong.)

148 I Need A Bigger Gun  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:49:43am

re: #132 Erik The Red

I gave him a D. I wonder if this is a true reflection of what the Orlando people think or if it has been hijacked.

First, don't pay attention to the "B" the newspaper editorial staff gave him. Around here, the paper is known as the "Slantinel" for a reason. As far as the "D" the people are giving him, I'd say it's pretty accurate, at least until the UCF students start voting, that is.

149 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:51:33am

Additionally- Charles has stated he's the only one pointing out the fascists, so perhaps he feels he should continue to do so as to get some others to notice the problem as well, and speak out against it.

150 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:52:50am
151 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:54:29am

re: #148 I Need A Bigger Gun

I will be moving to your neck of the woods in the next month or so. Looking at the Maitland/ Lost Lakes area.

152 SmellyMarxMovement  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:55:43am

re: #148 I Need A Bigger Gun

First, don't pay attention to the "B" the newspaper editorial staff gave him. Around here, the paper is known as the "Slantinel" for a reason. As far as the "D" the people are giving him, I'd say it's pretty accurate, at least until the UCF students start voting, that is.

I'm in Orlando and I'm shocked. The Orlando Slantinel fishwrap is garbage. This poll has been seized and is on a one-way trip to Cuba.

153 Jack Burton  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:56:09am

re: #130 ArchangelMichael

And this was down-dinged why? It's an honest question. Wtf is up the asses of some of the bloggers who arent nazi or YEC shills?

154 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:56:56am

re: #152 SmellyMarxMovement

I'm in Orlando and I'm shocked. The Orlando Slantinel fishwrap is garbage. This poll has been seized and is on a one-way trip to Cuba.

So, you're saying that Daily Kos just found out about it?
;)

155 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:57:17am

re: #150 devnulled

What rush to reach across the aisle? WTF are you talking about?! You can criticize your friends without it meaning you now want to hang with your opponents.

156 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:57:30am

Quote of the Day:

(I have never read the New Scientist, but my experience is that in periodicals one can generally substitute “Socialist” for the word “New”).

157 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:58:01am

'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.' Ronald Reagan

158 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 12:59:39am

re: #157 Pietr

'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.' Ronald Reagan

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
-Ronald Reagan

There's a great idea for a T-shirt – "0bama: He's from the government, and he's here to help."

159 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:00:51am

re: #150 devnulled

You're right, you didn't say that. I put word's into your mouth, but for comedic purposes. Altering your stance is not what happened.

You don't understand if you think 'we're reaching across the aisle.' What's been happening is a lowering of the crazy quotient, distancing LGF from;

Laws and legislation enabling the teaching of creationism in public schools
overheated and inflamed rhetoric about a DHS report

Charles is In Charge on these, and we're all the better for it. I'm sorry if that's boring to you, but it's not to me.

160 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:01:35am

re: #158 gmsc

'The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program.' Ronald Reagan

161 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:02:45am

re: #147 Zimriel

(This above was just my observation and could well be wrong... feel free to downding this one if it strikes you as wholly off base, but if so, tell me where it's wrong.)

And someone gives awards for that?

/who's paying attention?

162 SmellyMarxMovement  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:03:43am

re: #160 Pietr

'The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program.' Ronald Reagan

My all-time favorite. Man I miss him... .

163 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:04:39am
164 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:04:58am

re: #153 ArchangelMichael

And this was down-dinged why? It's an honest question. Wtf is up the asses of some of the bloggers who arent nazi or YEC shills?

Because I resent the vague and ambiguous terms with which the DHS was willing to lump veterans as well as people less than enthusiastic about gun control, abortion or illegal immigration in with skinheads, klansmen, neo-nazis and skinheads in that briefing,,,,,,and yes, I fucking read it. The White House has pretty much come right out and said they were willing to politicize the 2010 Census- but politicizing the Department of homeland security is somehow beyond the pale? Don't bank on it...

At the very best...the absolute most 100% optimistic assesment, that memorandum has demonstrated a gov't agency that was founded in the wake of 9/11 has slipped into a September 10th mindset. I also found it very telling that the DHS briefing made numerous use of the word 'terrorist' when describing American citicizens, but they still won't use the word against Al Qaida, Ansaar Al-Islam, Hamas, Hezbollah, etc.

And no....I'm not advocating that DHS ignore any threats posed by neo-nazis, the klan or militias. How about avoiding lumping 48% of the US population in with them? Would that be too much to ask?

165 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:05:36am

re: #153 ArchangelMichael

And this was down-dinged why? It's an honest question. Wtf is up the asses of some of the bloggers who arent nazi or YEC shills?

And by Fenway, too... had higher expectations of that one.

The DHS memo was pretty obnoxious, but it wasn't a total "brown sandwich" like some of the other products of this administration. There was/is a genuine problem with rightwing extremists which the DHS was dealing with, however clumsily.

166 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:07:12am

re: #162 SmellyMarxMovement

My all-time favorite. Man I miss him... .

Likewise, I miss him too; we could use someone like him right about now......

167 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:07:15am

re: #147 Zimriel

But I do know what started the LGF hate at Goldstein's: It was Charles's comment that "I hope Obama fails" was irresponsible. Some disclosure here - I sided with Goldstein over that one, initially, and defended him here (and Charles over there, because hey, I like living dangerously). I think most of the Right went with Goldstein - except for Patterico, but his blog sucks ass anyway, so he didn't matter.

But then Goldstein went further and further trying to find something on LGF to post on his site as a focus of "Hundred Comment Hate". People like SmallDeadAnimals's Kate and, apparently, Ace and his bunch were still high on the idea of Goldstein as Ulysses Grant - "I can't spare him, he fights" - and since the Right certainly hasn't been getting any leadership from the Republicans these days, they followed Goldstein.

Really?

/if a blog soap opera sewing circle falls in the forest . . .

168 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:08:30am

Some people don't deal well with constructive criticism- be they friends, family, co-workers, neighbors, political allies, or bloggers. Shooting the messenger is usually a losing strategy resulting in karmic blowback.

169 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:09:56am

All your attacks on leftist tenets are belong to us.

170 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:10:35am

re: #163 devnulled

I do not like you.

I'm crushed.

171 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:11:11am
172 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:11:18am

re: #167 Killian Bundy

Really?

/if a blog soap opera sewing circle falls in the forest . . .

LOL. Yeah, it's fucking petty, isn't it?

Michael did ask, so I thought I'd answer as best I could. . .

173 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:11:31am

re: #170 Sharmuta

I'm crushed.

I am pretty sure that has just ruined you weekend Sharmuta.

174 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:11:54am

re: #168 Sharmuta

resulting in karmic blowback

/boy howdy, downding Xing . . .

175 TheMatrix31  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:12:07am

All this crap reminds me of high school drama, and only being four years removed, it's way too soon for me to feel nostalgic about it.

176 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:12:22am

re: #171 devnulled

So- we should quit picking on da nazis?

177 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:12:28am

re: #171 devnulled

It is the sheer amount as of late, with obvious lack of the classics that I lament.

Once again, I am speaking for myself on the matter. I am speaking as a person who wishes only a reduction in anti-racist Denmark and London threads and a return to bashing of leftist tenets that I remember from years past.

And yet... The Troll Abides

178 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:13:12am

re: #175 TheMatrix31

Dude- you read the note I passed you in study hall?

179 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:13:38am

re: #177 Zimriel

We should just leave those nazis in peace and quiet, doncha know.

180 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:14:08am

re: #176 Sharmuta

So- we should quit picking on da nazis?

Well, they are a little sensitive about things right now, what with Hitler's birthday being this week, and the US boycotting the Durban II Hate Conference.

181 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:14:18am

re: #180 gmsc

Well, they are a little sensitive about things right now, what with Hitler's birthday being this week, and the US boycotting the Durban II Hate Conference.

///

PIMF

182 freetoken  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:14:34am

re: #171 devnulled

[...] and a return to bashing of leftist tenets that I remember from years past.

Ok, color me confused. When exactly did Charles make LGF's central theme the "bashing of leftist tenets"? I've been reading LGF since 2004 (discovered it during the height of Rathergate) and I've never thought that Charles was out bash "leftist tenets."

183 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:14:51am

re: #180 gmsc

Well, they are a little sensitive about things right now, what with Hitler's birthday being this week, and the US boycotting the Durban II Hate Conference.

We know you no need for the //// tags

184 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:15:22am

re: #176 Sharmuta

So- we should quit picking on da nazis?

Yes. Leave the Nazis and YEC's alone and let's pick on the leftists.

185 TheMatrix31  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:15:38am

re: #178 Fenway_Nation

Dude- you read the note I passed you in study hall?

I can't believe she said that shit, I'll skip PE and we'll talk about it, man.

186 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:16:22am

re: #183 Erik The Red

We know you no need for the //// tags

Thanks. I'm just trying to stay clear to everyone. (Then again, someone who's really new to this board wouldn't necessarily understand what /// means.)

187 Jack Burton  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:17:18am

re: #164 Fenway_Nation

Because I resent the vague and ambiguous terms with which the DHS was willing to lump veterans as well as people less than enthusiastic about gun control, abortion or illegal immigration in with skinheads, klansmen, neo-nazis and skinheads in that briefing,,,,,,and yes, I fucking read it. The White House has pretty much come right out and said they were willing to politicize the 2010 Census- but politicizing the Department of homeland security is somehow beyond the pale? Don't bank on it...

At the very best...the absolute most 100% optimistic assesment, that memorandum has demonstrated a gov't agency that was founded in the wake of 9/11 has slipped into a September 10th mindset. I also found it very telling that the DHS briefing made numerous use of the word 'terrorist' when describing American citicizens, but they still won't use the word against Al Qaida, Ansaar Al-Islam, Hamas, Hezbollah, etc.

And no....I'm not advocating that DHS ignore any threats posed by neo-nazis, the klan or militias. How about avoiding lumping 48% of the US population in with them? Would that be too much to ask?

I don't want to get in an argument with you over this. It's written very badly. The term "right-wing" is thrown around too much with no commentary. We already know that the Zero administration lives in 9/10 and he and his leftist buddies tend to hold real American patriots with some level of contempt because they are a reminder to them that we aren't X number of commie policies away from world peace and utopia. It is self evident.

That being said I agreed with Charles that it wasn't a cause for unhinged hysterics and that is exactly how I would describe the reaction I saw to it on just about every blog, Fox news, and every conservative talk radio show. So my comment was intended to mean, "is Charles refusal to freak out over this issue the main reason he is suddenly persona non-grata with those who arent kissing nazi or creationist ass?"

188 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:17:48am

re: #178 Fenway_Nation

Dude- you read the note I passed you in study hall?

re: #185 TheMatrix31

I can't believe she said that shit, I'll skip PE and we'll talk about it, man.

You mean this one?
;)

189 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:18:00am

Please, no more ///bagging tonight.

190 TheMatrix31  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:20:05am

re: #188 gmsc

You mean this one?
;)

LMFAO! I have a whole box of notes (I know, kinda foofy) stashed away in my closet, but nothing as stupid as that.

191 BignJames  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:20:59am

Hey! How about that Janean Garafalo?....is she a great actress or what?

192 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:21:04am

BBL Lizards. Play nice.

193 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:22:07am

re: #187 ArchangelMichael

So my comment was intended to mean, "is Charles refusal to freak out over this issue the main reason he is suddenly persona non-grata with those who arent kissing nazi or creationist ass?"

I assume the memo was part of it. Another bit of right-wing craziness was all the second-guessing over the pirate standoff; suddenly every two-bit blogger had an email buddy who was best friends with the entire chain of command of the Navy SEALS.

194 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:22:38am

A fart hearkens from on high.

/which Lizard would be the first to upding it and comment that it smelled good?

195 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:25:58am

re: #190 TheMatrix31

LMFAO! I have a whole box of notes (I know, kinda foofy) stashed away in my closet, but nothing as stupid as that.

Oh, you have to read that whole blog. If there was someway to track down the source of all these notes, psychologists would be completely recession-proof!

196 BignJames  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:26:35am

re: #194 Killian Bundy

A fart hearkens from on high.

/which Lizard would be the first to upding it and comment that it smelled good?


Multiple choice?

197 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:27:20am

re: #196 BignJames

Multiple choice?

/pick your poison

198 TheMatrix31  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:28:35am

re: #195 gmsc

Oh, you have to read that whole blog. If there was someway to track down the source of all these notes, psychologists would be completely recession-proof!

I will when I um....sit down and have the time.

As for Janeane Garofolo...I'm waiting for her character on 24 to get killed off.

199 BignJames  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:29:50am

re: #197 Killian Bundy

/pick your poison

Better not

/learned about poking wasp nests as a kid

200 Smorgasbord  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:30:13am

Humans, humans, humans. We are making too many. The world would be a nice place to live it weren't for all the humans on it.

201 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:32:13am

Huh?

202 SmellyMarxMovement  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:34:47am

"So I jump ship in Hong Kong and make my way over to Tibet, and I get on as a looper at a course over in the Himalayas. A looper, you know, a caddy, a looper, a jock. So, I tell them I'm a pro jock, and who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama, himself. Twelfth son of the Lama. The flowing robes, the grace, bald... striking. So, I'm on the first tee with him. I give him the driver. He hauls off and whacks one - big hitter, the Lama - long, into a ten-thousand foot crevasse, right at the base of this glacier. Do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga... gunga, gunga-galunga. So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice." - Carl Spackler

Everyone needs to chill...peace.

203 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:36:52am
204 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:37:28am

re: #163 devnulled

I do not like you.

A few posters here have given me exactly what I needed in this thread. They have affirmed and posted out loud what I have been missing.

That is all I needed.

And I got it in under 200 posts.

So if I give you a nickel will you go away?

205 Jack Burton  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:39:23am
206 Zimriel  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:40:18am

re: #204 Dustyvet

So if I give you a nickel will you go away?

/I get this feeling he's going to be going away soon anyway

207 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:41:21am

re: #200 Smorgasbord

Humans, humans, humans. We are making too many. The world would be a nice place to live it weren't for all the humans on it.

"There are too many people on this planet!"

"And what are you personally doing to help solve that problem?"

208 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:44:15am

re: #203 devnulled

It was a natural progression from the start and I got hooked on the fix.

Something went wrong in the past few months.

Sticking it to the creationists is all well and fun but I was a fan of the leftist bashing and am left wanting as of late. It has been suggested I start a thread on the matter and I believe heartily that discussing a concept is far superior to discussing an incident. From what I gather the concept of leftist bashing is not a welcome concept here. I misjudged and am left to clean up my topic.

You've got a huge nedative karma problem with half as many comments.

/you're articulation is unwelcome here

209 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:44:37am

re: #193 Zimriel

...that was just dumb to fall in the trap of trying to assign blame for an op that went pretty smoothly, all things considered.

Yeahre: #187 ArchangelMichael

Then we're more or less in agreement. Speaking as someone who's
A) A veteran
B) Personally impacted by the economic downturn
C) Lukewarm on abortion
D) Lukewarm on illegal immigration
E) Lukewarm on same-sex marrige
F) Lukewarm on 0bama
G) Adamantly opposed to more gun-control
I almost felt as though the DHS brief was singling me out (lumping me in the neo-nazis was just the icing on that pr. The really strange thing was that I went to a job fair a few weeks before the memo came out. It was geared towards veterans and there were all kinds of gov't agencies, trade schools, defense contractors and some Fortune 500 companies present. I'd say recruiter with the biggest booth was hands-down the Department of Homeland Security. And it was a safe bet that I wasn't the only military veteran present who was pro-2nd amendment, anti gay marrige/illegal immigration/abortion...so that Neapolitano's briefing becomes even more gaffe-tastic by viewing the DHS' presence at that job fair as a contradictory 'You're all potential domestic terrorists; Wanna come work for us?' ....

210 freetoken  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:47:30am

For your viewing pleasure... since there are plenty of Stargate fans here at LGF... all the episodes from seasons 1 and 2 of Stargate: SG-1 are now available on Hulu, at 480P (if your bandwidth allows.)

211 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:48:19am

re: #191 BignJames

Hey! How about that Janean Garafalo?....is she a great actress or what?

Janean Garafalo shall be referred to from here on out as The B-Minus Time Traveller....

212 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:50:17am
213 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:50:52am

re: #211 Fenway_Nation

Janean Garafalo shall be referred to from here on out as The B-Minus Time Traveller....

I've heard about that bit, but never seen the sketch itself.

Thanks!

214 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:51:47am

re: #209 Fenway_Nation

lumping me in the neo-nazis was just the icing on that particular dog turd

PIMF..

/took me the better part of 10 minutes to compose that and it's still only semi-coherent.

215 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:52:54am

re: #213 gmsc


No prob.....in many ways, it's eerily prophetic.

/besides actually being pretty funny on it's own merits.

216 BignJames  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:56:01am

re: #211 Fenway_Nation

Janean Garafalo shall be referred to from here on out as The B-Minus Time Traveller....

I can't believe I watched that.

217 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 1:57:39am
218 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:00:20am

re: #216 BignJames

I know it's a real stretch to see Jeanine Garafalo portraying a whiny, self-centered, vacuous juvenile who knows next to nothing about American history, but she somehow managed to pull it off!

219 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:00:23am

Is littleoldlady here?

220 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:00:28am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

221 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:00:42am

No. :-)

222 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:01:11am

Thankee, M'am...How's your morning so far?

223 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:01:28am

Thank you littleoldlady!

224 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:02:00am

re: #217 devnulled

It is possible to buy a book to improve articulation. I don't think I can honestly improve what I got... short of faking it, anyway.

/work it back slowly, avoid the downding party people you crossed, in force

225 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:02:33am

re: #218 Fenway_Nation

I know it's a real stretch to see Jeanine Garafalo portraying a whiny, self-centered, vacuous juvenile who knows next to nothing about American history, but she somehow managed to pull it off!

Isn't she still doing that today?

226 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:02:39am

Pietr! :-)

I'm above ground...

BatGuano! :-)

227 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:02:49am

re: #220 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

Yummy!

I just missed you, and got worried a little too soon.
;)

228 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:03:19am

re: #221 littleoldlady

No. :-)

Then where is she . . .? Wait a minute . . .

///

229 Jack Burton  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:04:08am

I'm trying to figure out how I managed to give myself a migraine 2 nights in a row. Usually I get 2-3 per year. I'm over that quota already and its only April.

I'm glad there are no antivaxxer or Luap Nor kooks here to pile on to it. It must be OISD* or something. Off to try to sleep this one away.


*Obama Induced Stress Disorder

230 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:04:17am

re: #225 Pietr

Isn't she still doing that today?


Not at all- she just never broke charachter from that skit.

231 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:05:39am

gmsc! :-) & ;-)

232 TheMatrix31  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:05:44am

Thanks, LoL!

233 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:06:59am

re: #220 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

searching my fruit cup for a radish...I'm dying for a radish...:) Thanks Lady...)

234 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:07:04am

Ugh...I remember finding out earlier this year that FOX Business Network was available on my XM. The very first show I tune into had Ron Paul as their guest.

I haven't listened to FOX Business since...

235 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:07:34am

re: #233 Dustyvet

Your kingdom for a radish?

236 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:08:05am

re: #235 Fenway_Nation

Your kingdom for a radish?

Yeah and cottage cheese...:)

237 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:08:18am

Matrix! :-)

Dustyvet! :-)

238 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:09:33am

re: #237 littleoldlady

Matrix! :-)

Dustyvet! :-)

I got radish's...:) TA Lady...doing snoopy dance...:)

239 BignJames  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:10:37am
240 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:12:32am
241 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:14:06am

re: #238 Dustyvet

I got radish's...:) TA Lady...doing snoopy dance...:)

Hmmm...Radishes w/fruitcup and cottage cheese? Are you pregnant, Dusty?

/white smoke...

242 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:14:13am

re: #239 BignJames

BignJames! :-)

Saving that one for a future avatar!

/I only steal from the best ;-)

243 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:15:17am
244 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:15:21am

I'd better get some rest before work tomorrow.

Good night, all!

245 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:16:16am

re: #244 gmsc

G'night, gmsc.

246 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:16:26am

re: #242 littleoldlady

BignJames! :-)

Saving that one for a future avatar!

/I only steal from the best ;-)

You'll need to adjust that one for avatar use, LoL. It's like 4x plus the KB allowance for an avatar here....:>O

247 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:17:09am

re: #243 Dustyvet

Love that movie! :-)

'Night, gmsc! :-)

...Like sheeps in the night.
© Archie Bunker

248 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:17:23am

re: #244 gmsc

G'night gmsc....

249 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:18:00am

re: #246 Pietr

Yah, and the good news is I even know how to do that!

/not a total anti-geek ;-)

250 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:19:16am

re: #246 Pietr

You'll need to adjust that one for avatar use, LoL. It's like 4x plus the KB allowance for an avatar here....:>O

Image: ApocalypseMeow2_500.jpg

251 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:20:20am

More locomotive for sale- direct from the railway itself without middlemen or leasing companies.

The SW1500 is a 1,500 h.p. end-cab switcher built by EMD in the mid 1960s to late 1970s. Ideal for yard and industrial switching, transfer drags and short-haul runs. End cab switchers are something of a rarity these days as they've mostly been purged from the rosters of the Class 1 railways (Canadian Pacific, Burlington Northern-Santa Fe, CSX Transportation, Union Pacific, Canadian National and Norfolk Southern) in favor of using the long-hood roadswitchers and new 'green' Genset locomotives (when the latter is not bursting into flames, at least) for those tasks.

Despite being nearly 40 years old, these particular ones for sale by Iowa shortline operator Cedar Rapids and Iowa City fetch a high price because of their relative scarcity and the fact that two of them have been outfitted for remote-control operation...

252 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:22:12am

re: #244 gmsc


G'monrning gmsc!

253 freetoken  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:23:50am

re: #220 littleoldlady

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->


Wowser... looks like you spent hours in the kitchen.

254 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:26:35am

re: #220 littleoldlady

Cuttin' it awfully close.....maybe it's time to dust of my Fruitcupitron 3000 blueprints.

255 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:26:47am

re: #241 Pietr

Hmmm...Radishes w/fruitcup and cottage cheese? Are you pregnant, Dusty?

/white smoke...

Nah...Just ummm...never mind...:)

256 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:27:21am

re: #253 freetoken

freetoken! :-)

Not only that, but I grow my own!

257 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:27:52am

I just checked "stats" and there are 45 logged on. Who are they and why are they not posting? Are they shy?

258 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:28:09am

Fenway! :-)

Distractions 'R Us

:-/

259 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:28:47am
260 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:29:13am

re: #257 BatGuano


I would say 'Maybe they're in the lounge....but....y'know'.

261 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:29:49am

re: #256 littleoldlady

freetoken! :-)

Not only that, but I grow my own!

Image: funny-pictures-your-cat-plant-is-sprouting.jpg

262 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:30:22am

re: #261 Dustyvet

OMG! ROTFL!

263 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:30:28am

re: #260 Fenway_Nation

Yeah, no lounge!

264 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:33:40am
265 SmellyMarxMovement  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:35:31am

re: #257 BatGuano

I just checked "stats" and there are 45 logged on. Who are they and why are they not posting? Are they shy?

I actually rolled one a bit earlier - medicinal purpose of course - and I just now located my keyboard. It was by my mouse the whole time. 05:35 EST.

266 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:36:07am

re: #264 Dustyvet

for some reason, I'm reminded of West Side Story.

267 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:36:33am

re: #265 SmellyMarxMovement


Where was your mouse?

268 SmellyMarxMovement  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:37:11am

re: #267 Fenway_Nation

Where was your mouse?

By my keyboard...on the back of my car.

269 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:38:13am

re: #268 SmellyMarxMovement


Where was your car?

270 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:38:37am

re: #265 SmellyMarxMovement

"Roll another one, just like the other one. You've been hold'n onto it and I sure would like a hit."

271 SmellyMarxMovement  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:39:07am

re: #269 Fenway_Nation

Where was your car?

Under my computer.

272 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:39:57am

re: #264 Dustyvet

SNAP!

273 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:40:03am

re: #271 SmellyMarxMovement

Under my computer.

Image: funny-pictures-cat-has-obvious-hat.jpg

274 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:40:41am

re: #266 BatGuano

It took me a while to find the right clip! ;-)

275 SmellyMarxMovement  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:43:39am

re: #273 Dustyvet

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com...]

Damn...that is freaking funny! I burned my lap.

276 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:45:27am

re: #274 littleoldlady

It's classic!

277 BignJames  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:46:11am

re: #275 SmellyMarxMovement

Damn...that is freaking funny! I burned my lap.

Take the seeds out.

278 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:47:10am

re: #275 SmellyMarxMovement

Damn...that is freaking funny! I burned my lap.

sorrys...:(

279 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:47:25am

re: #277 BignJames

I once set my shorts on fire smokin' a doob.

280 TheMatrix31  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:47:41am

re: #257 BatGuano

I just checked "stats" and there are 45 logged on. Who are they and why are they not posting? Are they shy?

I've been watching episodes of "Better Off Ted" on my computer....pretty funny show actually. The last episode was surprisingly/refreshingly VERY politically incorrect.

281 SmellyMarxMovement  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:48:26am

re: #279 BatGuano

I once set my shorts on fire smokin' a doob.


Did you stop, drop, and ROLL?

282 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:48:45am
283 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:49:00am

re: #281 SmellyMarxMovement

Yeah, I rolled another one.

284 SmellyMarxMovement  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:50:49am

Gotta go. Everybody take care.

285 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:51:13am

re: #274 littleoldlady

They were much more graceful than our current gang-bangers.

286 TheMatrix31  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:51:30am

re: #281 SmellyMarxMovement

Did you stop, drop, and ROLL?

I just thought of a pretty good username if someone who's a lurker who hasn't registered yet wants to use it --

SkidMarx.

287 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:53:18am

re: #284 SmellyMarxMovement

By, smelly.

288 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:53:26am

re: #285 BatGuano

Plus, they could DANCE! ;-)

289 BignJames  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:53:26am

re: #286 TheMatrix31

I just thought of a pretty good username if someone who's a lurker who hasn't registered yet wants to use it --

SkidMarx.

Rusty Skidmarx.....you know....the racer.

290 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:54:02am
291 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:54:04am

re: #286 TheMatrix31


That's much better than PettingZooJerky!

292 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:56:23am

/It's A Good Life PT.1

293 Dustyvet  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:57:00am

FDA Approves Depressant Drug For The Annoyingly Cheerful


294 littleoldlady  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:58:00am

Okay boys and...er...boys. ;-) Time for me to get stuff done... :-(

Good day, ALL!™

295 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:58:43am

re: #288 littleoldlady

The girl in the powder blue dress is HOT! And I didn't remember John Astin being in it.

296 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 2:59:54am

re: #294 littleoldlady

But wait! I didn't even get started on which military-style carbines I wanted for my birthday!

297 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:00:20am

re: #294 littleoldlady

Bye, lol!

298 TheMatrix31  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:05:29am

re: #291 Fenway_Nation

That's much better than PettingZooJerky!

Beef jerky sounds great right now.

299 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:05:30am

re: #296 Fenway_Nation

Carbine? Like carbine williams?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

300 whiterasta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:07:53am

Talk about The Peter Principal in living color:

I listened to a radio show yesterday and heard the Great Egalitarian and Orator, The One and the Only, Stephen Lewis spouting his leftist drivel.

This guy, who has never held a real job in his life is now teaching World Health and Climate Change at McMaster University.

What a joke.

301 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:13:05am

re: #299 BatGuano


I had something like this in mind...

302 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:15:35am

Stats: 44 logged in. Wo bist du?

303 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:19:34am

re: #301 Fenway_Nation

A little more than Dave Williams could have imagined.

304 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:23:01am

And so began the eighties.

/you either rode it or pretended to play catch up

305 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:24:41am

re: #303 BatGuano

Or me....I mean, even if that's approved for civilian sale here in the USA, that's gotta cost a pretty penny. In the meantime, I'll just have to settle for a run-of-the-mill Ruger Ranch Rifle.

306 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:30:47am

Well, Lizard Nation, it's time to seek some warm sand...

L8rs.....

307 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:31:59am

re: #302 BatGuano

Stats: 44 logged in. Wo bist du?

I left for 2 hours but stayed logged in. I can stay logged in for over 24 hours without even being here.

308 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:32:28am

re: #306 Pietr

Well, Lizard Nation, it's time to seek some warm sand...

L8rs.....

Later Pietr.

309 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:33:53am

re: #306 Pietr

Bye, Pietr.

310 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:34:03am

re: #306 Pietr


G'nite Pietr....make sure the sand isn't warm 'coz someboy peed on it.

311 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:38:11am

re: #307 Erik The Red

I was just curious about those who are logged in but do not post. I was hoping to draw them out. You're a well respected regular lizard.

312 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:42:49am

re: #311 BatGuano

I was just curious about those who are logged in but do not post. I was hoping to draw them out. You're a well respected regular lizard.

Hey Bat. I think there are far more people who are logged in and do not post most of the time. Since Charles has closed the Lounge we are seeing more lurkers post than before.

I am a regular poster, don't know about the well respected part tho. :)

313 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:43:57am

re: #307 Erik The Red

I'm a relatively new lizard. I don't even know what Honco means.

314 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:44:28am

re: #312 Erik The Red


It varies from joke to joke.

315 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:46:03am

re: #312 Erik The Red

I do not use the term " well respected" lightly.

316 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:48:44am

If one of the 37 doesn't post something soon, I will be forced to post a joke. :)

317 BignJames  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:51:53am

re: #316 BatGuano

If one of the 37 doesn't post something soon, I will be forced to post a joke. :)

Straighten up and fly right, Col.

318 golly  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:52:44am

re: #316 BatGuano

If one of the 37 doesn't post something soon, I will be forced to post a joke. :)

Did you hear about the cannibal who passed his friend in the woods?

319 Killian Bundy  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:53:01am

/four more to go

320 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:54:05am

Bign, golly, That's what Im talki'n bout!

321 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:54:40am

re: #319 Killian Bundy

When Mothership come out I ran out to buy it. A great remastered CD and DVD. Get it if you don't have it.

322 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:56:21am

re: #321 Erik The Red

When Mothership come out I ran out to buy it. A great remastered CD and DVD. Get it if you don't have it.

I saw Page and Plant in concert when I was visiting my dad in 1998. Great show.

323 golly  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:57:26am

The East Coast Deadthreaders are still waiting for the coffee to sink in and the dual keyboards to coalesce into one.

324 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:58:09am

re: #323 golly

The East Coast Deadthreaders are still waiting for the coffee to sink in and the dual keyboards to coalesce into one.

Make the coffee I have the scotch.

325 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:59:22am

Well...it will have to be 36 lizards now....

g'nite all!

326 golly  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 3:59:53am

re: #324 Erik The Red

Make the coffee I have the scotch.

Good enough, but I have a dedicated bottle of Gosling's Black Seal Rum for mine. Thanks for the offer tho.

327 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:00:25am

re: #325 Fenway_Nation

Well...it will have to be 36 lizards now....

g'nite all!

Nite FN.

328 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:01:51am

re: #325 Fenway_Nation

G'night green monster.:)

329 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:04:51am

Seeing as no one is here we could always start a Boobie thread

330 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:08:01am

You mean like this:

Image: boobies.JPG

331 golly  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:09:49am

Hey! I was just getting the two keyboards down to one and you had to go an link to that!

332 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:12:31am

re: #330 BatGuano

Or these

333 Ateam  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:12:36am

re: #23 Fenway_Nation

BTW, what the hell is up with having a gay judge at the Miss USA pageant? Who's bright idea was it to put a homosexual male on the panel who finds women off-putting and unattractive so that he can judge how attractive the contestants are? That just goes beyond the borders of absurd. I mean....wouldn't a lesbian judge have made more sense?

When I was dating a beauty pageant contestant....

/Sorry- it's not often I have a chance to use that [factually] in a sentence.

The same thought crossed my mind when seeing this farce' (scandal) with Ms. California at the national beauty USA contest :-(

334 Salamantis  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:14:14am

A fellow of Scandinavian extraction from northern Maine won a call-in radio contest one August. His prize was a ten grand and a two week all expenses paid vacation in a Miami Beach rooftop condo. He was looking forward to it because he had heard rumors that the sun down there was so strong that it could actually darken one's skin. He had not, however, ever heard of sunscreen.

He got settled in his room one bright sunshiny morning after a red eye flight, then took a lounge chair out to the deck, stripped off all his clothes, and began reading the first chapter of War and Peace. Within 15 minutes he had fallen fast asleep.

It was late that afternoon when he awakened, and he soon discovered, to his great dismay, that his skin was lobsterfied. The pain was excruciatingly intense, especially on those more personal and private areas that had rarely if ever seen the light of day.

He grimaced as he gingerly and gently pulled his clothes loosely on, and then hit the elevator to get back down the one floor to his room.

On the way down, the elevator operator quietly informed him that a lady of the evening from across town had scheduled an appointment with a client who had to cancel due to illness, and that she was willing to go for half price so the long trip wouldn't be a total loss. He also informed him that she was a bit on the older side, but her long experience had morphed into yummy expertise. Since our contest winner was flush with unearned cash, he decided to give her a go, tipped the elevator operator, and told him to send her around.

She was indeed older, but still nice looking, and in fine shape, so they went at it. The experience was like approacavoidance syndrome for him; ecstatic and agonizing all at once. But of course, once he climaxed, the pleasure was gone, and he was left with the burning pain.

So he jumped up out of the bed and fled to the kitchen, so he could open the fridge door and feel the cool rush of chill air in his fiery member - and what should he spy in there, but a tall cool glass of buttermilk?

Without a second thought, he grabbed the glass of buttermilk out of the fridge and snaked his suffering pud into it. The relief was substantial and instantaneous; his scrunched face relaxed into a broad grin as he went "Ahhhhh!"

Meanwhile, the pross had jumped up to follow him, suspecting that he might be trying to skip out without paying, and observed the spectacle. Then, sudden enlightenment struck, and she remarked, "I've been hooking for more than twenty years, but this is the first time I've ever seen how you guys reloaded that thing!"

335 golly  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:14:54am

re: #332 Erik The Red

Or these

Is that the link between Seals and Land Mammaries that was a thread last night?

336 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:18:08am

Good Morning Lizards!

337 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:18:45am

re: #335 golly

Is that the link between Seals and Land Mammaries that was a thread last night?

Could be. It is also a link between two parts of my anatomy.

338 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:19:18am

re: #336 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!

Morning 2H just in time for some silly boy stuff :)

339 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:21:57am

I may be watching he dumbest movie of all time..Robert Denero as a pirate..

340 Salamantis  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:22:13am

If you tell that joke to someone face to face, it gives you power over them; you can cause them to collapse in fits of laughter simply by dropping your open palm between your legs and sighing "Ahhhh!", or by leaning over to their ear and whispering, "Buttermilk!"

341 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:22:46am

My last boobie post.

Image: boobies-hd.jpg

342 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:30:31am

re: #341 BatGuano

Mine too. Boobies

343 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:31:41am

re: #339 HoosierHoops

I may be watching he dumbest movie of all time..Robert Denero as a pirate..

Huh? What movie?

344 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:34:30am

re: #343 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Huh? What movie?

Stardust (2007 ) A young man ventures into a fairy realm to retrieve a fallen star...
I'm not sure i can keep watching...
Hi Veggie! Hope today finds you well

345 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:37:09am

I've never seen a fat vegetarian. How do you do that?

346 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:37:11am

re: #344 HoosierHoops

Well? Not sure, but sexier than usual.

347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:37:36am

re: #345 BatGuano

If it wasn't for beer I'd weigh 140.

I don't like salad.

348 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:39:34am

re: #347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If it wasn't for beer I'd weigh 140.

I don't like salad.

I never have asked. Did you go veggie by choice? If so why and for how long? I would really struggle as I loves me red meat.

349 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:40:21am

re: #347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hate salad! Unless it has shrimp on it. Mmmmm.... beer.

350 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:41:03am

re: #348 Erik The Red

Mmmmm... red meat.

351 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:41:43am

I love a good salad and most veggies. They have to be fresh. No canned shit for me.

352 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:41:47am

UHHHH.. History channel finally has a good show on.. About PT boats..The history channel has become a farce..UFO's..Monsters, big foot,wanna be food channel, bible lessons..conspiracy theory channel..just about the opposite of what they used to be..

353 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:43:14am

re: #351 Erik The Red

I love a good salad and most veggies. They have to be fresh. No canned shit for me.

I hear that..I destroy salad bars! It's just a big pile of everything on the bar covered in dressing..

354 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:43:49am

re: #348 Erik The Red

Of course I did it by choice. (not sure I understand how that was a question).

I never hunted or fished, couldn't kill an animal (on purpose), cognitive dissonance got a hold of me. How could I eat something someone else killed if I wouldn't do it myself.

Plus, I was very bad at dieting. I was a much "fatter bastard omnivore".

355 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:44:04am

I have not been on to much this week due to moving pressures. I have not seen Walter around.

356 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:44:59am

re: #355 Erik The Red

I have not been on to much this week due to moving pressures. I have not seen Walter around.

He has that show that opened..He is in and out

357 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:45:42am

re: #355 Erik The Red

He's been on in some mornings. Show stuff going on. Has new girlfriend to boot (IIRC).

Walter always has a new girlfriend. Walter is always on the hunt for a former girlfriend.

(I hope Walter reads that...)

358 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:45:49am

re: #354 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Of course I did it by choice. (not sure I understand how that was a question).

I never hunted or fished, couldn't kill an animal (on purpose), cognitive dissonance got a hold of me. How could I eat something someone else killed if I wouldn't do it myself.

Plus, I was very bad at dieting. I was a much "fatter bastard omnivore".

Badly phased. I meant did you do it for health reasons or doctor reasons or the reason you just gave.

359 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:46:36am

re: #357 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He's been on in some mornings. Show stuff going on. Has new girlfriend to boot (IIRC).

Walter always has a new girlfriend. Walter is always on the hunt for a former girlfriend.

(I hope Walter reads that...)

LOL
You are a spark plug this morning...

360 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:47:52am

re: #358 Erik The Red

Badly phased. I meant did you do it for health reasons or doctor reasons or the reason you just gave.

You'll be home soon!

361 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:50:12am

re: #358 Erik The Red

No, I wasn't insulted or anything...just didn't understand how "not by choice". Cool.

The reason I stated is precisely why. But, it's not a big deal, really.

The reason that I even put vegetarian in my nic, is for the comic effect. There are very, very few conservative type vegetarians. Fewer overweight ones.

362 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:52:33am

OUTBREAK: NO PLAN TO CLOSE BORDERS

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

Our borders are always wide open.

363 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:53:06am

Today is the day..the day..once a year this dude one has a party of parties.
Completely stocked bar...monster music..Last year i took his restored pink Cadillac for a spin..His house is just f'ing wicked

364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:53:21am

Someone pointed out to me (here) that I am classified a "crunchy conservative".

365 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:54:00am

re: #362 Nevergiveup

What? You see a problem with this?

366 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:54:05am

re: #361 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No, I wasn't insulted or anything...just didn't understand how "not by choice". Cool.

The reason I stated is precisely why. But, it's not a big deal, really.

The reason that I even put vegetarian in my nic, is for the comic effect. There are very, very few conservative type vegetarians. Fewer overweight ones.

I knew a few conservative vegetarians. I went to all their funerals.
/

367 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:54:54am

re: #360 HoosierHoops

You'll be home soon!

I am going to have to re-learn loads of stuff.

Kilo's to pounds. Fairly easy
Pounds to ounce's. Fuck knows.
Km to Miles. Not to bad.re: #363 HoosierHoops

Today is the day..the day..once a year this dude one has a party of parties.
Completely stocked bar...monster music..Last year i took his restored pink Cadillac for a spin..His house is just f'ing wicked


Miles to yards. Fuck knows.
Cm to inches. Fuck knows.
Liters to cups. Fuck knows.

Realise to realize.
Tomato to tomoto.
Robot to traffic light
Boot to trunk
Nappy to diaper
Braai to BBQ
Bonnet to hood.

So many more.

368 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:54:59am

re: #365 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What? You see a problem with this?

Me casa ....yada yada yada

369 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:55:09am

re: #363 HoosierHoops

Today is the day..the day..once a year this dude one has a party of parties.
Completely stocked bar...monster music..Last year i took his restored pink Cadillac for a spin..His house is just f'ing wicked

Address please.

370 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:56:32am

re: #367 Erik The Red

Hey what the f happened?

371 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:58:28am

re: #369 Erik The Red

Address please.

You'll be nearby..cheap flights.. Lucky for you..I get free tickets to the brickyard
race. My welcome home present is 2 for you...

372 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:58:44am

Why has the US never gone across to the metric system. So much easier. 10 base baby 10 base everything.

373 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:59:13am

re: #371 HoosierHoops

You'll be nearby..cheap flights.. Lucky for you..I get free tickets to the brickyard
race. My welcome home present is 2 for you...

Don't tease 2H.

374 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:59:34am

Real men don't do metric!

375 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:59:50am

Hey bitches.

376 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 4:59:50am

Ok. there are now 61 logged in. I want 10 percent ie., 6 to say ,"hi" before I go to sleep. :)

377 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:00:20am

Sorry, Chappell humor.

378 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:01:16am

Good morning. BG.

379 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:02:21am

re: #373 Erik The Red

Don't tease 2H.

Too bbad you would be here for the Indy500..My Company has a suite at the track..We have hundreds of people drop in..I invite everybody....I like the free beer and food thing with fast cars and beautiful women...On fast Friday they have a free concert..Kid Rock played last year

380 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:02:34am

re: #378 formercorpsman

G'mornig,corpsman.

381 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:02:49am

re: #380 BatGuano

Where you at in the world?

382 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:04:16am

re: #379 HoosierHoops

Too bbad you would be here for the Indy500..My Company has a suite at the track..We have hundreds of people drop in..I invite everybody....I like the free beer and food thing with fast cars and beautiful women...On fast Friday they have a free concert..Kid Rock played last year

A man could not ask for much more.

383 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:04:25am

re: #379 HoosierHoops

PIMF Damn it..
I am completely sober...

384 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:05:14am

re: #381 formercorpsman

San Jose, California.

385 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:05:29am

re: #383 HoosierHoops

PIMF Damn it..
I am completely sober...

So am I but I am going to start rectifying that right now. :)

386 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:06:00am

re: #384 BatGuano

I'm guessing you from your posts, you pulled an all-nighter?

387 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:06:46am

re: #383 HoosierHoops

What is this "sober" you speak of?

388 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:07:48am

The Declaration of Cumaná: Capitalism 'threatens life on the planet'

[Link: rabble.ca...]

Hey Obama can ya feel the love yet?

389 Salamantis  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:09:28am

I'm really fond of vegetarians; I eat 'em all the time.

390 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:09:31am

re: #382 Erik The Red

A man could not ask for much more.

These people are serious about Basketball and racing here..I mean serious..
I live outside a small town..lots of people have piece of shit racing junks they fix up for friday night racing...I'm from Napa Valley..We have a dirt track in Calistoga..Also The old Sears point track but Nothing like this..

391 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:09:35am

re: #386 formercorpsman

I went to work at 0030 and was told I was not needed. I get paid for four hours, but I'm still on graveyard time.

392 Ateam  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:10:30am

re: #351 Erik The Red

I love a good salad and most veggies. They have to be fresh. No canned shit for me.

I make a fresh salad (almost) every day - chopped tomato, cucumber, small radish, lettuce (the white part only), red sweet pepper, spring onion, olive oil, lemon juice, sea salt, pounded black pepper.

393 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:11:20am

re: #391 BatGuano

Gotcha. I knew there was something to it.

I have to say, since I am not on trauma call anymore, I DO NOT miss those calls in the dead of the night.

394 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:12:44am

Jordan's King Abdullah: Evidence Suggests U.S. Engaged in Torture

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Has this dumb fuck ever read a history book? Does he know "HOW" his family got and keeps his "throne"?

395 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:12:56am

re: #392 Ateam

I make a fresh salad (almost) every day - chopped tomato, cucumber, small radish, lettuce (the white part only), red sweet pepper, spring onion, olive oil, lemon juice, sea salt, pounded black pepper.

My weakness is 1000 island dressing.. I put in on thick..

396 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:14:01am

re: #392 Ateam

I make a fresh salad (almost) every day - chopped tomato, cucumber, small radish, lettuce (the white part only), red sweet pepper, spring onion, olive oil, lemon juice, sea salt, pounded black pepper.

Sounds great. Add some olive oil and balsamic vinegar and you have a healthy side dish. Add some grilled chicken and you have a meal. And don't forget the feta cheese. Must have a dairy in the meal.

397 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:15:33am

All this vegetarian talk is getting me hungry. On the way home today I am gonna buy me some lamb chops and burn them up this afternoon.

398 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:15:57am

re: #396 Erik The Red

Sounds great. Add some olive oil and balsamic vinegar and you have a healthy side dish. Add some grilled chicken and you have a meal. And don't forget the feta cheese. Must have a dairy in the meal.

And this comes from a guy who is 5'11" and weighs 220. I have a fetish for good beer and loads of quality scotch.

399 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:16:00am

re: #395 HoosierHoops

My boss is fatter than me... he gets a "salad" at lunch, puts the equivalent of a large bottle of thousand island/ranch dressing on it.

His "salad" is probably 4,000 calories.

400 jacksontn  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:16:18am

re: #389 Salamantis

I'm really fond of vegetarians; I eat 'em all the time.

Sal ... LOL ... do you eat them raw ... or boil them in your cauldron? ...

401 Ziggy Standard  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:17:10am

Vanity Fair links to LGF thread on Pamela Geller's ongoing idiocy.


Achtung, Baby!

For years I strove to warn the nation of this menace among us.

[Link: www.vanityfair.com...]

402 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:17:18am

re: #397 Nevergiveup

All this vegetarian talk is getting me hungry. On the way home today I am gonna buy me some lamb chops and burn them up this afternoon.

LOL. I love lamb. I am worried I will not find good lamb when I get back to the States. We eat lamb here like you eat pig in the US.

403 Salamantis  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:17:36am

re: #400 jacksontn

Sal ... LOL ... do you eat them raw ... or boil them in your cauldron? ...

I nuke 'em in my microwave. They turn out great, if ya know how ta do it.

404 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:17:51am

A blessed event happened on April 25, 1955: I was born. 54 years ago today.

405 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:18:12am

re: #404 BatGuano

Happy Birthday.

406 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:18:13am

re: #399 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My boss is fatter than me... he gets a "salad" at lunch, puts the equivalent of a large bottle of thousand island/ranch dressing on it.

His "salad" is probably 4,000 calories.

That is the problem with salad. Its what you smother it with.

407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:18:20am

re: #404 BatGuano

Happy Birthday! You are going to die!

408 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:19:11am

re: #402 Erik The Red

Erik, where are you at in the world.

(If I missed this, sorry. Still trying to finish my first cup)

409 JacksonTn  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:19:35am

re: #404 BatGuano

A blessed event happened on April 25, 1955: I was born. 54 years ago today.

BG ... HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:19:37am

re: #408 formercorpsman

South Africa? Right?

411 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:19:39am

re: #407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Happy Birthday! You are going to die!

But die happy!

412 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:19:47am

re: #405 formercorpsman

Thank you!

413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:20:17am

re: #406 Erik The Red

That is the problem with salad. Its what you smother it with.

Dude eats a salad with a spoon.

414 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:20:23am

re: #407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thank you. I like the way think!

415 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:20:58am

re: #410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I truly don't know.

Now that baseball has started, and I am coaching 2 different teams, my acuity is off.

Nevergiveup can confirm this.

416 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:21:43am

refilling.

417 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:21:43am

re: #399 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My boss is fatter than me... he gets a "salad" at lunch, puts the equivalent of a large bottle of thousand island/ranch dressing on it.

His "salad" is probably 4,000 calories.

Thats me..I put a huge amount of dressing on..I weigh 5 lbs of my college playing days..Running and swimming works..
It is a beautiful morning..
I'm sitting on the deck.. my dog chasing birds..

418 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:21:59am

re: #415 formercorpsman

I truly don't know.

Now that baseball has started, and I am coaching 2 different teams, my acuity is off.

Nevergiveup can confirm this.

Sure Right OK. What am I confirming?

419 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:22:06am

re: #404 BatGuano

A blessed event happened on April 25, 1955: I was born. 54 years ago today.

Happy Birthday Bat

420 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:22:14am

re: #417 HoosierHoops

You were offensive lineman?

421 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:22:45am

re: #404 BatGuano

A blessed event happened on April 25, 1955: I was born. 54 years ago today.

Happy Birthday! Everybody upding Bat!

422 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:22:53am

re: #408 formercorpsman

Erik, where are you at in the world.

(If I missed this, sorry. Still trying to finish my first cup)

Durban, South Africa.

423 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:23:10am

re: #409 JacksonTn

Thanks. I haven't seen my baby video for years,

424 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:23:32am

re: #420 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You were offensive lineman?

LOL
Point Guard...

425 Salamantis  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:23:45am

re: #407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Happy Birthday! You are going to die!

According to actuarial tables, your life is 2/3 over.

But that's not the most unsettling news - this is:

It will seem like even less.

Each day, each week, each month, each year, is subconsciously compared with and measured against the whole of our previous lives, and as we get older, seems shorter by comparison. So the older we get, the faster the years seem to fly by.

426 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:25:59am

re: #418 Nevergiveup

My little misteps.

Perhaps not reading things correctly.

And we can stop there.

427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:26:12am

re: #422 Erik The Red

I know where that is. It is on that geography thingy I've been working on for the past month.re: #407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Happy Birthday! You are going to die!

You're older than you've ever been
And now you're even older
And now you're even older
And now you're even older
You're older than you've ever been
And now you're even older
And now you're older still.

-They Might Be Giants, "Older"

428 abolitionist  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:26:14am

Many of the stories on the new flu cases I've read today seem like Don't Nobody Panic PR pieces. This one may be a little different:

Deadly flu strain threatens Mexico and U.S.

Genetic analysis shows the flu strain is a never-before-seen mixture of swine, human and avian viruses.

The fact most of the dead were aged between 25 and 45 was seen as a worrying sign linked to pandemics, as seasonal flu tends to be more deadly among the elderly and the very young.
[snip]

In New York City, health officials were investigating what had sickened scores of students who fell ill with flu-like symptoms in a Queens high school on Thursday and Friday. The symptoms were reported as mild and a city health official said he could not speculate about which flu strain was responsible.

429 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:26:50am

Clinton: Iraq On the Right Track
Making her first trip to Iraq as America's top diplomat, Clinton said the country has made great strides despite the recent violence that killed at least 148 people in Baghdad and outside on Thursday and Friday.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I wonder what Harry " the war is lost" Reid has to say?

430 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:27:15am

re: #419 Erik The Red

Thanks!

431 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:27:19am

re: #422 Erik The Red

Cool. What are you doing out there?

432 yesandno  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:27:53am

re: #404 BatGuano

A blessed event happened on April 25, 1955: I was born. 54 years ago today.

Happy Birthday........................and many more.

433 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:27:54am

re: #426 formercorpsman

My little misteps.

Perhaps not reading things correctly.

And we can stop there.

Oh THAT! I had almost forgot.

434 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:29:28am

re: #425 Salamantis

Oy!

435 Salamantis  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:30:09am

re: #428 abolitionist

Many of the stories on the new flu cases I've read today seem like Don't Nobody Panic PR pieces. This one may be a little different:

Deadly flu strain threatens Mexico and U.S.

Bacteria can be devious...and attack us in a co-ordinated fashion, like multiplying flash mobs with poison darts all fired at once:

[Link: ted.org...]

Maybe viruses don't work this way like bacteria do; I sure hope not.

436 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:30:12am

re: #433 Nevergiveup

I know most don't really know what that was about.

When I realized it, I just laughed out loud at how I rolled that snowball along.

Duh.

437 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:30:18am

Good evening, I bring you a quick laugh.

Zionist Oranges Infiltrate Glorious Islamic Republic.

/still snickering

438 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:30:42am

re: #432 yesandno

Thank you. I came within 10 minutes of being born in a Hudson Hornet.

439 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:30:50am

re: #431 formercorpsman

Cool. What are you doing out there?

Getting ready to come back here!

440 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:31:31am

Moved out here in 1983 as a 16 year old with my mom and stepdad. I have had 2 one year stints in the US as a 20 something year old. I will be returning to the US in about 6 weeks time with my wife and two young girls. I have enough of the African adventure and need to worry about my daughters long term welfare.

Don't get me wrong. Africa has been VERY good to me, but I need a first world stable country now.

441 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:33:01am

re: #429 Nevergiveup

You know in all honesty, a fair media after Clinton's comment would be going back to him and asking if he wishes to recollect that statement.

It is totally relevant considering the circumstances.

Pure bullshit.

442 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:33:48am

re: #436 formercorpsman

I know most don't really know what that was about.

When I realized it, I just laughed out loud at how I rolled that snowball along.

Duh.

You basically deflected all the derision away from me. I really owe ya. So my 8:00 AM patient no-showed again. Nice kid, but? And he is a Seabee in one of the NOSCs I drill at.

443 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:34:24am

re: #440 Erik The Red

Gotcha. I was just looking at some pictures. Looks really nice, but other aspects leave things to be desired I guess.

444 yesandno  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:34:49am

re: #438 BatGuano

Thank you. I came within 10 minutes of being born in a Hudson Hornet.

Whew...that was close!

I came within three minutes of being the younger child...all of a sudden, I was the the middle one.

445 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:35:48am

re: #440 Erik The Red

If I can't make it to the airport, welcome back.

446 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:35:53am

Good Morning LGF.

447 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:36:48am

re: #446 Spare O'Lake

Morning SO'L.

448 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:36:58am

Time to make myself "not here".

See y'all in a few hours.

449 notutopia  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:37:05am

If you asked me to name the three scariest threats facing the human race, I would give the same answer that most people would: nuclear war, global warming and Windows.
— Dave Barry

"Everyone carries a part of society on his shoulders; no one is relieved of his share of responsibility by others. And no one can find a safe way out for himself if society is sweeping toward destruction. Therefore everyone, in his own interests, must thrust himself vigorously into the intellectual battle. No one can stand aside with unconcern; the interests of everyone hang on the result. Whether he chooses or not, every man is drawn into the great historical struggle, the decisive battle into which our epoch has plunged us."
- Ludwig von Mises, Socialism: An Economic and Sociological Analysis, 1922

450 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:38:09am

re: #448 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cheers.

451 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:38:17am

re: #444 yesandno

You are a twin?

452 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:38:34am

re: #442 Nevergiveup

Hey, I give hell all the time. I even give hell to our patients. They actually like the fact their doctor's office, and staff have personalities & are approachable.

I would be a total hypocrite if I dished it out, and could not take it back.

In retrospect, I thought it funny. Duh, but funny.

453 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:39:12am

re: #439 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

FBV, where are you at in the world?

454 Ateam  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:39:55am

re: #396 Erik The Red

Sounds great. Add some olive oil and balsamic vinegar and you have a healthy side dish. Add some grilled chicken and you have a meal. And don't forget the feta cheese. Must have a dairy in the meal.

As i wrote #392 -- olive oil is a very essential part of my salad dish. prefer lemon juice natural, on balsamic vinegar. and yes, a cheese. although not 'feta' but Balkan cheese. slightly salty & very delicate (only 5% fat).
[of cores as side dish to grilled chicken. today, to honor Saturday, i have roasted sirloin instead]

455 abolitionist  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:40:31am

North Korea begins extracting plutonium
North Korea begins extracting plutonium

Begins? This story from January (Aljazeera.net):
North Korea plutonium 'weaponised'

North Korean has "weaponised" enough of its stock of plutonium to make up to five nuclear bombs, a US arms expert has said.
456 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:44:06am

re: #455 abolitionist

Will 44 have the balls to do something besides running to the UFN and asking for a strongly worded letter. Not//

457 Ziggy Standard  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:45:03am

Awesome speech by Tony Blair to Chicago Council on Global Affairs:

CHECK AGAINST DELIVERY

"It is almost ten years to the day that I stood in this city and gave an address at the height of the Kosovo crisis. In that speech, I set out what I described as a doctrine of international community that sought to justify intervention, including if necessary military intervention, not only when a nation's interests are directly engaged; but also where there exists a humanitarian crisis or gross oppression of a civilian population.

It was a speech that argued strongly for an active and engaged foreign policy, not a reactive or isolationist one: better to intervene than to leave well alone. Be bold, adventurous even in what we can achieve.

Many, at the time, described the speech as hopelessly idealistic; dangerous even. And, probably, in the light of events since then, some would feel vindicated. As for me, I am older, better educated by the events that shaped my premiership, but I still believe that those who oppress and brutalise their citizens are better put out of power than kept in it."

contd here: [Link: tonyblairoffice.org...]

458 eon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:46:09am

re: #372 Erik The Red

Why has the US never gone across to the metric system. So much easier. 10 base baby 10 base everything.

Good morning, Lizardia.

(Morning, Bat, and Happy Birthday!)

The English system survives because it's mainly intuitive. I can make rough measurements in inches with the first joint of my right index finger, which is exactly one inch long. My height is exactly six feet, zero inches- two yards or one fathom. Judging the power output of reciprocating engines (ground vehicle or aircraft) in horsepower, and the thrust of jet engines in pounds, is a more logical way of handling them than trying to do both in kW, which while more mathematically elegant does not take into account how their energy is applied to work. (For large rockets, I do admit that Newton/seconds have their uses in measuring ISp, but I still prefer to know the thrust in tons as well.) And measuring the energy of projectiles in foot-pounds is, again, more intuitive than doing so in Joules. (Foot-pound; the energy required to raise one pound of mass one foot straight up against one "G".)

I understand and use KMS where appropriate, but I also convert the figures into English in my head when needed. About the only place I stick religiously to KMS is in dealing with ranges or spacial velocities in an SF sense- simply because c, the speed of light, is 300,000 KPS, which is an even number, as opposed to 186,262 mi/sec.

And of course, there is no "metric" way around the figure for pi.

cheers

eon

459 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:47:02am

re: #455 abolitionist

They're getting desperate. "Dear Leader's" health is deteriorating and they're having trouble finding a successor (read which of his sons will take the throne). Meanwhile, their Southern neighbors are basking in the prosperity of their now-developed economy.

We can only hope that if/when they do snap, they are contained before too much damage is done...

460 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:47:46am

re: #458 eon

Good morning, Lizardia.

(Morning, Bat, and Happy Birthday!)

The English system survives because it's mainly intuitive. I can make rough measurements in inches with the first joint of my right index finger, which is exactly one inch long. My height is exactly six feet, zero inches- two yards or one fathom. Judging the power output of reciprocating engines (ground vehicle or aircraft) in horsepower, and the thrust of jet engines in pounds, is a more logical way of handling them than trying to do both in kW, which while more mathematically elegant does not take into account how their energy is applied to work. (For large rockets, I do admit that Newton/seconds have their uses in measuring ISp, but I still prefer to know the thrust in tons as well.) And measuring the energy of projectiles in foot-pounds is, again, more intuitive than doing so in Joules. (Foot-pound; the energy required to raise one pound of mass one foot straight up against one "G".)

I understand and use KMS where appropriate, but I also convert the figures into English in my head when needed. About the only place I stick religiously to KMS is in dealing with ranges or spacial velocities in an SF sense- simply because c, the speed of light, is 300,000 KPS, which is an even number, as opposed to 186,262 mi/sec.

And of course, there is no "metric" way around the figure for pi.

cheers

eon

You lost me after the 3rd or 4th sentence. :)

461 Ateam  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:49:01am

re: #432 yesandno

Happy Birthday........................and many more.

Me too, > BatGuano.

462 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:50:27am

re: #22 Ward Cleaver

File this under "it figures":

Book Chavez Gave to Obama Is Used as Core Text on Many College Campuses

It's always OUR fault

463 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:51:12am

re: #462 FrogMarch

It's always OUR fault

oopsy -- It's always our fault they are corrupt.

464 eon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:51:13am

re: #460 Erik The Red

You lost me after the 3rd or 4th sentence. :)

I do that to a lot of people, in everyday life, too. ;-)

cheers

eon

465 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:51:46am
466 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:53:24am

re: #462 FrogMarch

Why am I suddenly thankful I'm going to college here?

I can safely say that my college is one of the more vocal anti-administration institutions in the country (almost as much as the ironically American-founded University of the Philippines), though the voices of the ruling priestly fraternity don't necessarily translate to the student crowd.

467 quickjustice  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:53:26am

re: #455 abolitionist

The murderous North Korea regime could be brought down without a shot being fired, but China and South Korea won't cooperate.

All they 'd have to do is open their borders to North Korean refugees. Millions would flee, depopulating North Korea without a shot being fired. Trouble is, caring for those refugees would be very costly. That why China and South Korea won't do it. In the case of the South Koreans, I'd call it selfish.

468 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:54:38am

re: #458 eon

Thank you for the birthday greeting. It is easier for me to calculate thrust/payload using American measurements. That is I know how much thrust is needed to put a specific payload in orbit.

469 vxbush  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:54:45am

Morning, everyone.


re: #458 eon

Good morning, Lizardia.

(Morning, Bat, and Happy Birthday!)

The English system survives because it's mainly intuitive. I can make rough measurements in inches with the first joint of my right index finger, which is exactly one inch long. My height is exactly six feet, zero inches- two yards or one fathom. Judging the power output of reciprocating engines (ground vehicle or aircraft) in horsepower, and the thrust of jet engines in pounds, is a more logical way of handling them than trying to do both in kW, which while more mathematically elegant does not take into account how their energy is applied to work. (For large rockets, I do admit that Newton/seconds have their uses in measuring ISp, but I still prefer to know the thrust in tons as well.) And measuring the energy of projectiles in foot-pounds is, again, more intuitive than doing so in Joules. (Foot-pound; the energy required to raise one pound of mass one foot straight up against one "G".)

I understand and use KMS where appropriate, but I also convert the figures into English in my head when needed. About the only place I stick religiously to KMS is in dealing with ranges or spacial velocities in an SF sense- simply because c, the speed of light, is 300,000 KPS, which is an even number, as opposed to 186,262 mi/sec.

And of course, there is no "metric" way around the figure for pi.

cheers

eon

I think you have single-handedly explained why KMS never took over the US. People had developed an innate understand of measurement using the English method that they couldn't grasp learning KMS afterwards. I suppose if you grow up with KMS you might be able to adapt, but the English method is very fixed in reality and measuring actual objects and forces.

Personally, I have no problem with KMS because I've done all the physics work using KMS, but I really don't have a good sense for how that translates into reality. Which is why I never became a physicist. Most people, it seems, could care less as long as they can decide how long to cut a board. For them, English is fine.

But then, I have a feeling for numbers and numerical systems that most people don't have. As well as a deep abiding love for chocolate.

470 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:55:18am

re: #461 Ateam

Thank you!

471 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:56:37am

re: #468 BatGuano

Oh, and Happy Birthday to you!

/sorry I forgot the first time ;_;

472 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:57:30am

Good morning, Lizards.

It suddenly occurred to me the other day why President Obama was proposed limitations in charitable deductions: it won't affect most liberals, as studies show that conservatives tend to give more to charities.

473 vxbush  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:57:31am

re: #470 BatGuano

Thank you!

Enjoy!

474 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:58:09am

re: #472 goddessoftheclassroom

I thought America was too stingy to give to charities.

//percentages, percentages

475 nyc redneck  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:58:23am

re: #429 Nevergiveup

Clinton: Iraq On the Right Track
Making her first trip to Iraq as America's top diplomat, Clinton said the country has made great strides despite the recent violence that killed at least 148 people in Baghdad and outside on Thursday and Friday.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I wonder what Harry " the war is lost" Reid has to say?

or turban durbin, traitor murtha or jon 'gigolo' cary?

476 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:58:24am

re: #465 FrogMarch

good morning.

obama thinks you're stupid.

That's OK I think he is stupid and naive.

477 vxbush  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:59:01am

re: #472 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

It suddenly occurred to me the other day why President Obama was proposed limitations in charitable deductions: it won't affect most liberals, as studies show that conservatives tend to give more to charities.

That, and it will limit how much in the way of deductions people will actually get on their income tax paperwork. It probably wouldn't affect me simply because of the amount of medical deductions we have with the son, but it would almost certainly make sure that very few people got money back from the government.

478 abolitionist  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 5:59:58am

re: #435 Salamantis

Bacteria can be devious...and attack us in a co-ordinated fashion, like multiplying flash mobs with poison darts all fired at once:

[Link: ted.org...]

Maybe viruses don't work this way like bacteria do; I sure hope not.

Interesting link. Thanks. Didn't grok your comment at first.

479 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:00:09am

re: #469 vxbush

Morning, everyone.

I think you have single-handedly explained why KMS never took over the US. People had developed an innate understand of measurement using the English method that they couldn't grasp learning KMS afterwards. I suppose if you grow up with KMS you might be able to adapt, but the English method is very fixed in reality and measuring actual objects and forces.

Personally, I have no problem with KMS because I've done all the physics work using KMS, but I really don't have a good sense for how that translates into reality. Which is why I never became a physicist. Most people, it seems, could care less as long as they can decide how long to cut a board. For them, English is fine.

But then, I have a feeling for numbers and numerical systems that most people don't have. As well as a deep abiding love for chocolate.

I understand that with the English method any engineering or physic equations are a lot more accurate. But everyday usage the metric system is just so damn easy to learn.

480 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:00:10am

re: #477 vxbush

That, and it will limit how much in the way of deductions people will actually get on their income tax paperwork. It probably wouldn't affect me simply because of the amount of medical deductions we have with the son, but it would almost certainly make sure that very few people get to keep more of their own money.got money back from the government.

481 vxbush  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:00:13am

re: #476 Nevergiveup

That's OK I think he is stupid and naive.

Stupid, naive, and narcissistic.

482 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:00:33am

re: #471 laZardo

Thank you. I appreciate it.

483 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:01:06am

re: #472 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess} Top of the morning to you.
Tips hat and bows

484 vxbush  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:01:13am

re: #480 reine.de.tout

Yes. Far more precise and accurate.

485 vxbush  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:02:11am

re: #479 Erik The Red

I understand that with the English method any engineering or physic equations are a lot more accurate. But everyday usage the metric system is just so damn easy to learn.

My classmates didn't think so when we were larning metric in junior high. I couldn't understand why they were having problems. I still don't. But as I learned English first, I do often convert measurements in my head for some things, like Kg.

486 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:03:03am

re: #483 Erik The Red

{goddess} Top of the morning to you.
Tips hat and bows

{Erik The Red}

Good manners always impress me!

487 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:03:26am

Good morning, all.

488 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:03:29am

"I never thought this day would happen. I won’t have to work on puttin’ gas wheel hubs in my car. I won’t have to work at payin’ my mortgage the dryer repair man. You know. If I help him [Obama], he’s gonna help me."

Barry, while your at it, I have a couple more things.

My lawn needs to be cut. (Weed eating would be nice too)
My Jeep also needs a wheel hub.
My front door needs replacing.
My back door needs a latch set.
My decorative window trim came down when the boys hit it with a baseball.
My kitchen floor needs to be replaced.
My wife planted who the hell knows what, and it will not stop growing.
My septic tanks need pumping.

Thanks buddy.

489 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:03:45am

re: #486 goddessoftheclassroom

Great song :)

490 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:04:32am

Good Morning {Goddess) {Irish Rose) (VXbush)

491 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:04:42am

re: #487 Irish Rose

Good morning, all.

IR. {morning} Are you in the buff this morning?

492 Ziggy Standard  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:05:03am

This is a collection of videos from "New Channel TV" and "One Law For All - No Sharia"

[Link: richarddawkins.net...]

493 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:05:23am

re: #491 Erik The Red

IR. {morning} Are you in the buff this morning?

Yes, blogging naked.

494 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:05:34am

re: #473 vxbush

Thanks, A lizard cake!

495 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:05:48am

re: #482 BatGuano

No prob.

496 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:06:16am

Two of Gord Lightfoot's early hits, covered by PP&M.

497 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:06:20am

re: #493 Irish Rose

Yes, blogging naked.

Oh how I love the Irish lasses.

498 vxbush  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:06:25am

re: #490 HoosierHoops

Good Morning {Goddess) {Irish Rose) (VXbush)

Morning, sir. Are you getting rained on today? We had a storm just pass us here.

499 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:06:48am

Savage thinks that I'm pathetic.
I'm crushed.

/

500 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:07:18am

re: #458 eon

I can rattle off the first fifteen decimal places off the top of my head.

/1, 4, 1, 5, 9, 2, 6, 5, 3, 5, 8, 9, 7, 9, 8

501 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:07:25am

re: #498 vxbush

Morning, sir. Are you getting rained on today? We had a storm just pass us here.

No it is absolutely beautiful here so far..

502 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:08:39am

re: #493 Irish Rose

I with the BV&RC, (Blogger Validation & Reclamation Committee)

Before we go any further, we will require validation of your last statement.

JPEG images will suffice ;

503 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:10:27am

re: #498 vxbush

Morning, sir. Are you getting rained on today? We had a storm just pass us here.

Your storm is getting ready to move into my neighborhood... it's so windy this morning that my BBQ grill took a dive, and I'm weighing it down with concrete blocks. And I'm getting ready to go upstairs and tack down a peice of vinyl siding that came loose overnight.

Spring has finally arrived.

504 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:10:28am

I have just put the hose pipe in the pool. Why has no one invented a device that works like filling you toilet cistern.

505 eon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:10:30am

re: #467 quickjustice

The murderous North Korea regime could be brought down without a shot being fired, but China and South Korea won't cooperate.

All they 'd have to do is open their borders to North Korean refugees. Millions would flee, depopulating North Korea without a shot being fired. Trouble is, caring for those refugees would be very costly. That why China and South Korea won't do it. In the case of the South Koreans, I'd call it selfish.

More self-preservation, actually. The PRC has long hoped for the ROK to do something like that, or be forced to do so by a "kinder, gentler" U.S. administration. Because the economic burden of trying to deal with such a massive influx would seriously damage South Korea, weakening it and thus making it less of a competitor with the PRC for export markets. The PRC would like to see similar things happen to Japan and Taiwan, both for purely economic reasons and (in the case of Taiwan) the sheer pleasure of getting payback.

According to my best bud, the E-5 (who's been there), ROK military intelligence also found out that one of the PRNK army's game plans for invading the South consists of flooding refugees across the border- using them as cover to send in infiltration teams to attack ROK military and political targets. The next step would be full-on invasion by the NKPLA. You can bet that Lil' Kim is panting for the opportunity to try this one.

As for the PRC opening its borders, not going to happen, ever. There is no love lost between Lil' Kim and the old men in the Forbidden City. Plus, as it stands, he's just too good a cat's-paw against South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and by extension, us. Plus, the PRC has already told Lil' Kim two things;

1. If you start another war with the South, and we have to come in a rescue you again, you become a Chinese province.

2. If, as a result of you losing such a war, a large number of refugees comes across our borders, we will return them, and replace you with a government we consider more stable. (And you know how we do that.)

So any way you slice it, North Korea is not a problem that can be solved easily. Or, frankly, at all... as long as Lil' Kim, or indeed any member of his family, is in charge.

Have to run. Have a great day, Lizards.

cheers

eon

506 sojerofgod  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:11:07am

re: #502 formercorpsman

Hear Hear!

507 vxbush  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:11:10am

re: #503 Irish Rose

Your storm is getting ready to move into my neighborhood... it's so windy this morning that my BBQ grill took a dive, and I'm weighing it down with concrete blocks. And I'm getting ready to go upstairs and tack down a peice of vinyl siding that came loose overnight.

Spring has finally arrived.

Hopefully when you take care of the siding you will carefully cover your blogging form so as to prevent any damage, yes?

[gets ready to hand a robe over]

508 BatGuano  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:11:14am

Thank you for all the birthday well-wishes. It is time for me to sleep. Good morning all.

509 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:11:16am

re: #500 laZardo

I can rattle off the first fifteen decimal places off the top of my head.

/1, 4, 1, 5, 9, 2, 6, 5, 3, 5, 8, 9, 7, 9, 8

I think gmac can do it to 200 plus.

510 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:11:19am

re: #502 formercorpsman

Sorry, I flushed it down the toilet.

511 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:11:53am

re: #509 Erik The Red

Not surprising, that's his avatar after all. q;

512 vxbush  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:13:12am

re: #509 Erik The Red

I think gmac can do it to 200 plus.

Oh, decimal places are great, but for me the bigger question was always understanding cardinality and the types of infinity. That's just way too cool.

/math geek mode off

513 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:14:43am

Great news for South Africa. Only just, but GREAT news. ANC just fails to get two-thirds majority

514 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:15:18am

Speaking of cars, it looks like GM is getting ready to announce the closure of their Pontiac division tomorrow morning.

The American muscle car industry comes to an official (and sad) end.

515 vxbush  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:16:14am

Hey, is anyone here really good at shell programming and curl?

516 sojerofgod  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:17:44am

re: #512 vxbush

I am a victim of new math, so I can barely make change but...

How many types of infinity can there be?

If we have an infinite number of infinities, then there is no finite solution to an equation involving infinity. Might that make it hard to solve such complex equations such as the Angle of the Dangle?

Some things truely are not to be known...

517 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:19:09am

Morning all.
I've made the executive decision to NOT attend a keynote address by Jimmy Carter today. He's speaking at a Baptist convention right down the street and I had seriously considered checking it out.
It's a beautiful day and I'm not going to waste it listening to the Religious Left bash Bush and hail Obama. Time to open the pool!

518 Ojoe  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:20:20am

Super excellent morning clouds over the San Gabriel Mountains of California. Towercam.

Check out the flowing cloud area at the lower right in the image.

Good Morning All.

519 vxbush  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:20:21am

re: #516 sojerofgod

I am a victim of new math, so I can barely make change but...

How many types of infinity can there be?

If we have an infinite number of infinities, then there is no finite solution to an equation involving infinity. Might that make it hard to solve such complex equations such as the Angle of the Dangle?

Some things truely are not to be known...

I'm not saying that there are an infinite number of infinities. But there are at least two kinds of infinity. Think of it this way: You know there are an infinite number of integers ..., -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, ... . And yet, the real numbers (fractions, square roots, and everything inbetween) are infinite as well. So are the number of real numbers the same as the number of integers?

Turns out, the answer is no. There are a lot more real numbers than there are integers. And yes, this can be proven.

520 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:21:14am

This this is an open thread, and since math & physics have been mentioned (very cool!), I'd like to share an insight.

In the New Testament, John says, "In the beginning was the Word..." The original is logos, meaning not just work but thought. To begin to understand the universe takes a combination of reasoning, mathematical computation, and expression--in fact, the synthesis of all areas of mankind's mental abilities. Some of us are limited to only part of these (higher math is not my thing although it fascinates me), but every one of us who contributes to the education of a child helps that child grow a bit closer to that ideal.

521 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:21:36am

re: #517 Lincolntf

Morning all.
I've made the executive decision to NOT attend a keynote address by Jimmy Carter today. He's speaking at a Baptist convention right down the street and I had seriously considered checking it out.
It's a beautiful day and I'm not going to waste it listening to the Religious Left bash Bush and hail Obama. Time to open the pool!

I'm waiting till the first to open the pool..I bought my dog a blowup boat so he float around with me...

522 vxbush  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:23:30am

re: #520 goddessoftheclassroom

This this is an open thread, and since math & physics have been mentioned (very cool!), I'd like to share an insight.

In the New Testament, John says, "In the beginning was the Word..." The original is logos, meaning not just work but thought. To begin to understand the universe takes a combination of reasoning, mathematical computation, and expression--in fact, the synthesis of all areas of mankind's mental abilities. Some of us are limited to only part of these (higher math is not my thing although it fascinates me), but every one of us who contributes to the education of a child helps that child grow a bit closer to that ideal.

Yes, reason had to be there to make the universe work, no? One of the reasons why Newton was willing to study the universe; he knew that the universe followed laws set down by God, and he wanted to understand those laws.

523 quickjustice  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:23:33am

re: #505 eon

Great insights! If a policy of admitting refugees were deliberate, however, you could control the flood, and organize in advance for refugee resettlement. The situation would be similar in some respects to that confronting Wet Germany when East Germany collapsed. Taxes to support resettlement would go up. On the other hand, less blood would be shed.

In some respects it's a trade off. Less risk of war with the Norks if you admit refugees in an orderly fashion, but with increased costs. More risk of war and catastrophic refugee migration if the current situation festers, and the regime fails.

If the Kim regime falls, and chaos ensues in North Korea, you'll have the refugee issue anyway, and in a way you can't control. Maybe China taking over North Korea isn't such a bad option after all. The stinking mess then becomes their problem.

524 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:23:42am

Our esteemed Secretary of State is about to speak in Iraq. I wonder if she is wearing sneakers after having sprinted from the Helicopter? I am sure she will talk about all the wonderful things she and Obama have done to stabilize Iraq? Hum? LOOKOUT incoming shoes--never mind.

525 vxbush  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:23:50am

re: #521 HoosierHoops

I'm waiting till the first to open the pool..I bought my dog a blowup boat so he float around with me...

I don't suppose that would work with most cats.

526 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:24:29am

re: #520 goddessoftheclassroom

This this is an open thread, and since math & physics have been mentioned (very cool!), I'd like to share an insight.

In the New Testament, John says, "In the beginning was the Word..." The original is logos, meaning not just work but thought. To begin to understand the universe takes a combination of reasoning, mathematical computation, and expression--in fact, the synthesis of all areas of mankind's mental abilities. Some of us are limited to only part of these (higher math is not my thing although it fascinates me), but every one of us who contributes to the education of a child helps that child grow a bit closer to that ideal.

G-D I hate pop quizzes?

527 sojerofgod  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:24:45am

re: #519 vxbush

Not admitting to having understood most of what you just said, I can see intuitively that there would be more real numbers than integers, since each integer could be broken into an infinite number of fractional components between one and the next "in line" so to speak, like the fractions of 1/4 1/2 etc between 0 and 1. Now, this thinking is likely (probably) all wet, but it makes farmer's sense if no other.

528 vxbush  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:26:48am

re: #527 sojerofgod

Not admitting to having understood most of what you just said, I can see intuitively that there would be more real numbers than integers, since each integer could be broken into an infinite number of fractional components between one and the next "in line" so to speak, like the fractions of 1/4 1/2 etc between 0 and 1. Now, this thinking is likely (probably) all wet, but it makes farmer's sense if no other.

Sorry. Not trying to snow you; just trying to give you the ideas without having to use all the heavy jargon. Your reasoning isn't quite perfect, but it's similar to how the proof is done, so you're not totally wrong!

529 formercorpsman  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:27:11am

Computer burped..

Everyone have a good day, work calls.

IR, yes, even as a MOPAR guy, it kills me to know another piece of real Americana is going by the wayside.

Take it easy folks.

GO FLYERS!
GO SIXERS!
GO PHILLIES!

530 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:27:18am

re: #525 vxbush

I don't suppose that would work with most cats.

One of our Siamese cats likes the water-kinda

531 vxbush  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:28:21am

re: #530 Nevergiveup

One of our Siamese cats likes the water-kinda

Really? I wonder if that's true of the species in general. The daughter's cat will take a bath if I force her, but my cat claws her way out of the bathroom and leaves no prisoners. They don't make dragon-hide gloves that would keep her claws from tearing me in two at the sight of water.

532 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:29:42am

re: #526 Nevergiveup

G-D I hate pop quizzes?

A serious reply to a kidding (I hope!) comment:

So do I: they're dishonest. A quiz should evaluate learning, not be a punishment. An unannounced evaluation does not give the student a chance to solidify or review what he or she has learned. Pop quizzes are grossly unfair UNLESS the teacher states that such a quiz may be given so that students know to be prepared just in case--but I still think they're wrong.

533 quickjustice  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:29:59am

re: #520 goddessoftheclassroom

For modern readers, the Greek "logos" is better translated the "Mind", as in the Mind of G-d. The "Word" does have important analogies to the Hebrew Tanak (Old Testament), however. For example, in Judaism, words coming from G-d or the Prophets are imbued with great power. The Hebrews believed that G-d spoke the world into existence: "Let there be light. And it was so." Devout Jews will not say the name of G-d out loud, for fear of offense. And of course the Hebrew kings tried to murder the prophets to prevent them from saying anything. If a prophet could be silenced before he could get his fateful words out, then the bad things he was prophesying would not happen.

534 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:30:15am

re: #496 Spare O'Lake

Two of Gord Lightfoot's early hits, covered by PP&M.

Personally, I prefer Lightfoot's own versions.


535 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:31:32am

So a bunch of South/Central American countries got together and issued a screed calling for the end of capitalism. No surprise there. But one segment in particular reminded me of something that could very easily be included in the Dem. Party platform. These are the guidelines for the "new" system that the dictators and thiugs want to replace bad old American freedom.

"A system based on: solidarity and complementarity, not competition;
- a system in harmony with our mother earth and not plundering of human resources;
- a system of cultural diversity and not cultural destruction and imposition of cultural values and lifestyles alien to the realities of our countries;
- a system of peace based on social justice and not on imperialist policies and wars;
- in summary, a system that recovers the human condition of our societies and peoples and does not reduce them to mere consumers or merchandise."

Seriously, I can picture dozens of our own Congressmen and women saying the exact same thing.

536 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:31:46am

re: #532 goddessoftheclassroom

I was joking

537 sojerofgod  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:31:53am

re: #528 vxbush

Good enuf then.

But the calculation of the angle of the dangle? I mis-remember it sumthing like the function of x where y=x-(age of experient) + (age of objectified experient2) / (dosage of Viagra, expressed in Mcg)

Or something like that....!

538 vxbush  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:33:20am

re: #537 sojerofgod

Good enuf then.

But the calculation of the angle of the dangle? I mis-remember it sumthing like the function of x where y=x-(age of experient) + (age of objectified experient2) / (dosage of Viagra, expressed in Mcg)

Or something like that....!

No, to answer that, you'll have to go to pharmacology, next door.

539 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:33:23am

re: #537 sojerofgod

Good enuf then.

But the calculation of the angle of the dangle? I mis-remember it sumthing like the function of x where y=x-(age of experient) + (age of objectified experient2) / (dosage of Viagra, expressed in Mcg)

Or something like that....!

You forgot to add the Time element into the equation..

540 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:33:35am

re: #533 quickjustice

For modern readers, the Greek "logos" is better translated the "Mind", as in the Mind of G-d. The "Word" does have important analogies to the Hebrew Tanak (Old Testament), however. For example, in Judaism, words coming from G-d or the Prophets are imbued with great power. The Hebrews believed that G-d spoke the world into existence: "Let there be light. And it was so." Devout Jews will not say the name of G-d out loud, for fear of offense. And of course the Hebrew kings tried to murder the prophets to prevent them from saying anything. If a prophet could be silenced before he could get his fateful words out, then the bad things he was prophesying would not happen.

This is why I think this is all SO COOL! By the time all this is rendered into English, much of the subtlety and shades of meaning are lost.

When I teach grammar, I tell my students that in an imperative sentence, the subject "you" is implied, as in "Stand up." I then challenge them to come up with the shorted sentence in English (there is a three-way tie).

Lizards, can you come up with them? There is a connection to this discussion...

541 quickjustice  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:33:55am

re: #535 Lincolntf

All of this has been tried. It's called communism or fascism. It's failed at a huge cost in human suffering, death, and misery.. All banning capitalism does is drive it underground into black markets.

You can say of the human race: we never learn from our mistakes, and are therefore doomed to repeat them.

542 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:34:12am

re: #536 Nevergiveup

I was joking


I was pretty sure you were! :)

543 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:37:03am

re: #514 Irish Rose

Speaking of cars, it looks like GM is getting ready to announce the closure of their Pontiac division tomorrow morning.

The American muscle car industry comes to an official (and sad) end.

except for
Ford Mustang
Chevy Camero
Dodge Challenger
Dodge Charger

all offer packages of 400+ HP motors

544 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:38:14am

re: #541 quickjustice

All of this has been tried. It's called communism or fascism. It's failed at a huge cost in human suffering, death, and misery.. All banning capitalism does is drive it underground into black markets.

You can say of the human race: we never learn from our mistakes, and are therefore doomed to repeat them.

Some of us learn, we tend to be called conservatives.

545 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:38:54am

re: #540 goddessoftheclassroom

This is why I think this is all SO COOL! By the time all this is rendered into English, much of the subtlety and shades of meaning are lost.

When I teach grammar, I tell my students that in an imperative sentence, the subject "you" is implied, as in "Stand up." I then challenge them to come up with the shorted sentence in English (there is a three-way tie).

Lizards, can you come up with them? There is a connection to this discussion...

Getdafucup?

/it's one word q;

546 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:39:24am

re: #541 quickjustice

You can say of the human race: we never learn from our mistakes, and are therefore doomed to repeat them.

The more things CHANGE...

547 quickjustice  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:39:46am

re: #540 goddessoftheclassroom

"Stand!" and "Deliver!" "Up!" and [implied] your valuables ;-)

548 rightymouse  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:40:58am

re: #514 Irish Rose

Speaking of cars, it looks like GM is getting ready to announce the closure of their Pontiac division tomorrow morning.

The American muscle car industry comes to an official (and sad) end.

My last two cars have been Pontiac Bonnevilles. Have loved them.

549 quickjustice  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:40:58am

Be! Do! do-be-do-be-do!

550 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:41:34am

They just said on FOX that Gen Petraeus thinks arming merchant ships might be a good idea. They said the shipping companies thinks that might "escalate" the violence? Hum, then how come we arm the Police? Come shipping companies- grow a pair.

551 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:41:58am

I've got to get started on errands and chores, so here are the three:

Go.
Do.
Be.

Kind of profound, isn't it?

552 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:43:10am

re: #550 Nevergiveup

They just said on FOX that Gen Petraeus thinks arming merchant ships might be a good idea. They said the shipping companies thinks that might "escalate" the violence? Hum, then how come we arm the Police? Come shipping companies- grow a pair.

escalated violence against the pirates is the solution...some people always get it exactly backwards, part of the fantasy syndrome they live by

553 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:43:27am

re: #514 Irish Rose

Speaking of cars...

If you asked me to name the three scariest threats facing the human race, I would give the same answer that most people would: nuclear war, global warming and Windows.

It's better than the alternative.

/also, RIP Pontiac :C

554 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:43:58am

Last update - 15:31 25/04/2009

Iran blames Israel, U.S. for deadly Iraq attacks

By Reuters

Tags: Israel News, Iran, Iraq


Iran's top authority blamed American and Israeli intelligence bodies on Saturday for bombings in Iraq that have killed dozens of Iranian pilgrims this week, official media reported.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Sure Right OK. Hay Obama that reaching out thing ain't working so well?

555 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:44:04am

re: #550 Nevergiveup

It does raise the possibility of a mutiny.

556 sojerofgod  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:44:11am

re: #539 HoosierHoops

Well, Not sure if you mean age (which i think is covered) or TOT (Time over Target) Naturally inclinations vary. (heh!)

Having just pushed 50 right out of the room, my personal graph still has a fairly steep curve, but as time goes on I expect it to become like those old barometers we made from the milk bottles, with a balloon stretched over the mouth with a straw for a needle glued onto them:

Just as the pressure goes up the needle goes down.

Or do I have that the other way 'round?

557 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:44:28am

re: #553 laZardo

PIMF, meant to bold, not strike out.

558 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:44:34am

re: #553 laZardo

Speaking of cars...

If you asked me to name the three scariest threats facing the human race, I would give the same answer that most people would: nuclear war, global warming and Windows.

It's better than the alternative.

/also, RIP Pontiac :C

here she is....

Image: Schoening64GTO.jpg

559 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:47:40am

re: #558 albusteve

I know it's not exactly the most famous car in the lineup, but I'm more a fan of this little number.

560 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:49:40am

Fox now has something on TV about "leasing" your marriage. A seven year contract? I don't know. Ya don't shop lift the poon tang, and I don't think leasing it is a good idea ( hat tip to Jerry McGuire).

561 anchors_aweigh  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:49:44am
If you asked me to name the three scariest threats facing the human race, I would give the same answer that most people would: nuclear war, global warming and Windows.

Let's take these in order shall we?

1. Nuclear war; no need to fret, nuclear weapons have made "great power" war obsolete. Don't believe me? Name one "great power" war since August 1945.

2. Global warming; puhleez.

3. Windows; even though I am an Apple guy, you cannot deny the positive impact of Windows on humankind.

562 nyc redneck  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:49:55am

re: #552 albusteve

escalated violence against the pirates is the solution...some people always get it exactly backwards, part of the fantasy syndrome they live by

exactly. why would the pirates stop? they are on easy street, for the most part
it has been like taking candy from babies for them. (except for the u.s.)
look at the millions they have made in ransom. this is lucrative "work" for these thugs. they are so industrious.
rush joked a few wks. ago that if the car companies worked even half this hard they wouldn't need bail outs.
so far these pirates have met w/ little incentive to stop, except fire hoses.
if they are blown out of the water, they will stop.

563 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:51:58am

smokin hot new Camero....2010


[Link: consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com...]

564 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:52:07am

re: #543 albusteve

except for
Ford Mustang
Chevy Camero
Dodge Challenger
Dodge Charger

all offer packages of 400+ HP motors

Do you know if they're going to continue production on these?
My fiance has one of the Cameros on order.

565 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:53:24am

OF COURSE robert attacks Charles instead of just saying he's not going to the nazi meeting. We all knew it was coming.

566 Truck Monkey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:53:25am

re: #558 albusteve

Fine art. GM, Mopar, and Ford were all in a groove in the 60's. I would posit that it was the best decade for American cars.

567 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:55:00am

re: #565 Sharmuta

OF COURSE robert attacks Charles instead of just saying he's not going to the nazi meeting. We all knew it was coming.

Robert Spencers' credibility, R.I.P.

568 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:55:45am

3 arrested in Lebanon as suspected Israeli spies.....

Israeli Spies?

569 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 6:57:41am

re: #564 Irish Rose

Do you know if they're going to continue production on these?
My fiance has one of the Cameros on order.

yes, they are all popular, but not necessarily in the Muscle models...at least not by numbers...there is a 700hp hemi Challenger for example....models like that are instant classics....the Mustang has done extremely well since it's redesign and orders for the new Camero are off the scale...it's just unreal that a car can have 375hp and still get 26mpg (made up numbers)....but they do...CAFE didn't kill the muscle car it just delayed the newer ones until technology caught up...your husband has very good taste btw

570 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:00:39am

re: #566 Truck Monkey

Fine art. GM, Mopar, and Ford were all in a groove in the 60's. I would posit that it was the best decade for American cars.

it was all pretty new back then and muscle cars have skyrocketed in value beyond imagination....my sisters family rebuilds them and races for fun...there are many models/drivetrains going for 100k...maybe a bit more

571 KenJen  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:01:08am

I think Dave Barry meant Windows Vista and I agree with him. Morning Lizards!

572 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:01:24am

re: #569 albusteve

yes, they are all popular, but not necessarily in the Muscle models...at least not by numbers...there is a 700hp hemi Challenger for example....models like that are instant classics....the Mustang has done extremely well since it's redesign and orders for the new Camero are off the scale...it's just unreal that a car can have 375hp and still get 26mpg (made up numbers)....but they do...CAFE didn't kill the muscle car it just delayed the newer ones until technology caught up...your husband has very good taste btw

Not my husband quite yet, but close enough ;).

Thanks for the correction, I'll update my blog.

573 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:02:47am

re: #566 Truck Monkey

Fine art. GM, Mopar, and Ford were all in a groove in the 60's. I would posit that it was the best decade for American cars.

The gutsy little Chevy 327 V8 was one of the best engines ever made.

574 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:05:34am

$100k Chevelle...yowza!


[Link: www.oldride.com...]

575 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:06:37am

Being a pansy nerd, this is my idea of muscle.

/ C:

576 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:06:38am

Good morning y'all - from a warm (70 degrees going up to 90 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

577 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:06:39am

re: #573 Spare O'Lake

The gutsy little Chevy 327 V8 was one of the best engines ever made.

indeed...try to find one now...and don't forget your Master Card

578 JPL17  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:07:46am

re: #389 Salamantis

I'm what I call a semi-vegetarian. I eat things that eat vegetables...you know, cows, pigs, chickens, etc. They eat vegetables, so I don't have to.

579 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:08:39am

re: #577 albusteve
So was the Ford 289 V-8 - all types and factory issued variants.
Note - first car was a 66+1/2 Mustang, 289 which I tinkered with a little bit.

580 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:10:17am

re: #571 KenJen
Good morning KenJen - I have to say that I felt the same way when I first got my new VISTA loaded machine, but not anymore - no problems AT ALL with it. None. And I HAD an XP and now don't think I'd trade my VISTA for an XP.

581 Steffan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:10:26am

Apropos of nothing:

Cthulhu loves the little children,
All the little chilren of the world!
Be they boiled, baked, or fried
Or with French fries on the side,
Cthulhu loves the little children of the world.

Of course, "nothing" includes Nyarlathotep, who may be found giggling insanely at the center of the universe.... *if* he's still alive....

582 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:12:01am

My first car was a 1968 Ford LTD.
Built like a tank.

583 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:12:09am

re: #579 realwest

So was the Ford 289 V-8 - all types and factory issued variants.
Note - first car was a 66+1/2 Mustang, 289 which I tinkered with a little bit.

the other classic small block...you could squeeze alot of HP out of that motor before it flew apart...if you had that car today you'd be sitting on a very nice pile of instant cash

584 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:14:28am

Good morning, all.

The dead threads are really quiet this AM. Only one gamey-buttocked lurker in the past hour.

/guess I'll have to fix a traditional breakfast.

585 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:14:54am
If you asked me to name the three scariest threats facing the human race, I would give the same answer that most people would: nuclear war, global warming and Windows.

— Dave Barry

Windows, death and taxes..........

Morning Honcos!

586 KenJen  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:15:14am

re: #580 realwest

Good morning KenJen - I have to say that I felt the same way when I first got my new VISTA loaded machine, but not anymore - no problems AT ALL with it. None. And I HAD an XP and now don't think I'd trade my VISTA for an XP.

Really? I've had nothing but trouble from day one. Of course it may be me. I'm not what you would consider a computer whiz.

587 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:15:56am

re: #584 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Good morning, all.

The dead threads are really quiet this AM. Only one gamey-buttocked lurker in the past hour.

/guess I'll have to fix a traditional breakfast.

Irish Coffee, or Boilermaker, PbMB?

588 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:16:53am

re: #583 albusteve No, if I had that car today I'd be out for a ride! Maybe from the very southern part of N.C. to the outskirts of Washington D.C. then back again - with a lot of luck I could traverse all of N.C. and Va. both ways in about oh, 14 hours or so.
:)

589 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:17:11am

re: #586 KenJen

Really? I've had nothing but trouble from day one. Of course it may be me. I'm not what you would consider a computer whiz.

What are your hardware specs? M$ lies like a rug on the min. specs for Vista.

590 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:18:37am

re: #583 albusteve

Don't forget the original Mopar (Dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler) 318...not that Aluminum block, low compression POS they make today.....

591 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:18:50am

re: #588 realwest

No, if I had that car today I'd be out for a ride! Maybe from the very southern part of N.C. to the outskirts of Washington D.C. then back again - with a lot of luck I could traverse all of N.C. and Va. both ways in about oh, 14 hours or so.
:)

my best friend had a 66 Fastback, red, in highschool....coolest car in the lot by far

592 Truck Monkey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:18:56am

re: #573 Spare O'Lake

The gutsy little Chevy 327 V8 was one of the best engines ever made.

My brother had a '68 Chevy Impala with the 327 in it and the motor ran until the body disintegrated around it.

593 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:19:13am

re: #586 KenJen
LOL! I'm the resident LGF tech-tard myself! But I got a good box, had Geek Squad set it up; it's an HP and runs it's own "health check" and I added Norton Anti-everything and MS Office Suite - plus it has a DVD and CD R both.
Love this computer!

594 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:19:38am

re: #590 Pietr

Don't forget the original Mopar (Dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler) 318...not that Aluminum block, low compression POS they make today.....

Dude, its got a Hemi!

595 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:19:48am

re: #579 realwest

So was the Ford 289 V-8 - all types and factory issued variants.
Note - first car was a 66+1/2 Mustang, 289 which I tinkered with a little bit.

I had a 351 Windsor in my Mustang - boy, what a strip I used to lay down. It actually had too much power to drive safely in the winter unless you put a few hundred pounds in the trunk to cut down on the fishtailing on icy roads.

596 KenJen  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:19:56am

re: #589 jcm

What are your hardware specs? M$ lies like a rug on the min. specs for Vista.

Huh? Is that puter lingo?

597 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:20:39am

re: #591 albusteve
Nah, '68 fastback - in British Racing Green (think Steve McQueen's car in Bullit)!

598 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:21:15am

re: #576 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a warm (70 degrees going up to 90 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

Remembering.

Oh, and I went on a little hike today and brought home some nice photos...but the main album's on Facebook. >_>

/yeah, trying to be trendy.

599 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:22:02am

re: #595 Spare O'Lake
Oh yeah! Same thing with the first 427 'vette damned thing would fishtail anytime IT felt like it! LOL!

600 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:22:09am

re: #590 Pietr

Don't forget the original Mopar (Dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler) 318...not that Aluminum block, low compression POS they make today.....

a solid motor but not the stuff of legend...that's why they put out the 340cid....Chrysler had 392 then the renouned 426 hemi...jumbo

601 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:22:49am

re: #596 KenJen

Huh? Is that puter lingo?

CPU speed and number of cores.
Memory
and size and type of graphics card.

Vista requires a serious machine to run decently, if you have a machine that meets Vista minimums it will be a dog.

602 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:23:21am

re: #576 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a warm (70 degrees going up to 90 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

Good morning rw. All is good.

603 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:23:58am

re: #597 realwest

Nah, '68 fastback - in British Racing Green (think Steve McQueen's car in Bullit)!

Bullit sold more Mustangs for Ford than they themselves did!

604 KenJen  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:24:42am

re: #593 realwest

LOL! I'm the resident LGF tech-tard myself! But I got a good box, had Geek Squad set it up; it's an HP and runs it's own "health check" and I added Norton Anti-everything and MS Office Suite - plus it has a DVD and CD R both.
Love this computer!

I should have called a professional to set it up. I did it myself. It's hooked up to a d-link with a Netupoia router and drops signal 5 times a day? i call Netupoia and they blame d-link and vice versa. Macfee security came with the computer. I think Nortons is better.

605 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:24:48am

re: #596 KenJen
Go to My Computer from your Windows Globe (used to say start on XP models) and go to my computer - it'll tell ya at the bottom what kind of memory and RAM you have and whether your running 32 or 64 bits.
Just trust me on this and report back what you find!

606 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:25:38am

re: #602 Erik The Red
Glad to hear it Erik! Hows the weather by you?

607 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:25:43am

re: #582 Irish Rose

My first car was a 1968 Ford LTD.
Built like a tank.

My parents bought a Hudson, mid-Fifties, one of the last made IIRC. Talk about a tank.

My mother and I were going from Camp LeJeune to a little port just up the coast, to pick up my dad (transports were coming back from a deployment.) Mother "broke convoy", a no-no, getting in between a pair of six-by's. The Marine driving the truck behind us was following close, trying to "get back" at her.

The convoy slowed down. Mother stopped a couple of feet behind the high bumper of the truck in front. The kid behind us didn't stop in time, his bumper contacted the trunk lid, pushing the Hudson's hood beneath the bumper ahead.

It wasn't a serious accident by any stretch, but I remember the Marines standing around the car, absolutely marvelling at the (only) slight dents in the trunk and hood. Those were VERY heavy trucks.

/one Marine commented that the car must be made of armor plate

608 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:26:31am

Gonna head out to the convenience store for a drink.

In the meantime, posted one of my favorite photos from today's collection, perhaps a chilling reflection of the environmental movement.

Brb.

609 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:26:37am

re: #601 jcm Hey there jcm - you at work (cause your not JCM today)?

610 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:26:46am

re: #585 jcm

Windows, death and taxes..........

Morning Honcos!

Good morning!

611 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:27:09am
612 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:27:47am

re: #587 Pietr

Irish Coffee, or Boilermaker, PbMB?

Uh oh. I'm bacon away from the idea of alcohol this early in the day.

613 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:28:01am

So I suppose I really have to take this swine flu outbreak seriously. I had hoped it was going to turn out to be a one off, isolated outbreak, but apparently scores of people have already died in Mexico.

Swine flu

Not sure what we can do about it at this point. I've read that "seed stock" of a vaccine has been prepared and that if it gets much worse, pharmaceutical companies will be given some to begin mass-producing the vax. I guess that's all we really can do.

614 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:28:07am

re: #603 albusteve
Yep, and McQueen DID do all the driving in that great chase scene with the Dodge Charger!
And that fastback (or I think it was called a hatchback) actually had some room in the rear seat area!.

615 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:28:37am

BTW albusteve, my fiances' current ride is a custom 2005 Grand Prix GXP v.8... black, with black leather interior, tinted windows, sunroof and all the extras and a highly customized exterior.

He's obsessive about it's care, and the car is a real knockout... absolutely pristine.

He's giving it to me as a wedding gift.

616 KenJen  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:29:00am

re: #601 jcm

CPU speed and number of cores.
Memory
and size and type of graphics card.

Vista requires a serious machine to run decently, if you have a machine that meets Vista minimums it will be a dog.

All I can tell you is that its a Compaq presario sr5601p. memory 1GB,Harddrive 250GB. Thanks for trying to help but I think it's a lost cause.

617 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:29:28am

re: #611 taxfreekiller

Because ZERO of the "proof" presented by Gore, etc. can stand up under the least bit of scrutiny. Can't have the truth getting in the way of the "big lie".

618 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:29:28am

re: #604 KenJen
Uh, well it's not too late - Geek Squad will service anyone's computer (but they aren't cheap!) if I were you I'd have 'em come check it out. Why'd you install a router anyway?

619 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:29:48am

re: #599 realwest

Oh yeah! Same thing with the first 427 'vette damned thing would fishtail anytime IT felt like it! LOL!

And what a gas pig - 7 mpg IIRC.

620 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:30:10am

re: #615 Irish Rose

BTW albusteve, my fiances' current ride is a custom 2005 Grand Prix GXP v.8... black, with black leather interior, tinted windows, sunroof and all the extras and a highly customized exterior.

He's obsessive about it's care, and the car is a real knockout... absolutely pristine.

He's giving it to me as a wedding gift.

clever...he gets a new Camero and keeps his GP in the drive too....good one!

621 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:30:24am

re: #607 pre-Boomer Marine brat

They just don't make 'em like that anymore ;).

622 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:30:26am

re: #609 realwest

Hey there jcm - you at work (cause your not JCM today)?

Mr. Mom day, logged in lower case I guess wasn't paying attention.
43° and overcast today.

623 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:31:11am

re: #609 realwest

Hey there jcm - you at work (cause your not JCM today)?

He has these little ups and downs, doesn't he!

624 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:32:06am

re: #613 Lincolntf
I've read where Tamiflu works against it quite well. Course I THINK you need a doc for that - either an RX or a shot.

625 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:32:33am

re: #613 Lincolntf

So I suppose I really have to take this swine flu outbreak seriously. I had hoped it was going to turn out to be a one off, isolated outbreak, but apparently scores of people have already died in Mexico.

Swine flu

Not sure what we can do about it at this point. I've read that "seed stock" of a vaccine has been prepared and that if it gets much worse, pharmaceutical companies will be given some to begin mass-producing the vax. I guess that's all we really can do.

Concur. For now we wait but if it looks like its going to show up near you, it might be a good time to take some vacation time.

626 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:32:41am

re: #599 realwest

Oh yeah! Same thing with the first 427 'vette damned thing would fishtail anytime IT felt like it! LOL!

I drove a company car like that......
Dodge Arrow pickup, 122cid! Ass end was so light it would fishtail all over the place!

;-P

627 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:33:56am

re: #615 Irish Rose
Hi Rose! He's giving it to you as a wedding gift? Holy smokes, that's a GREAT GIFT - but I suspect you've got yourself a good man, too.
BTW, how's your Marine Corps son doing these days?

628 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:34:09am

Manfred Rouhs

Manfred Rouhs' political career began in 1979 in the CDU youth organizations Junge Union (JU), and student union (SU). 1981 he moved to the Boys National Democrats (JN), the youth organization of the extreme right NPD.

Who is the NPD? The nazis- but robert spencer would like you to take mr rouhs at face value when he says he's not:

The party's platform says that Germany is larger than the present-day Federal Republic, and calls for revision of the post-war border acknowledgements. A map of Germany on the party's website omits the border that divides Germany from Austria and leaves out the Oder-Neisse Line, which established the limits of federal Germany to the east and was agreed upon with Poland in 1990.

This is the party that mr rouhs was involved in the youth group, and I'm supposed to believe he's a decent ally in the counter-jihad?! There's more- here's the NPD's german wiki page, translated:

The objective of the NPD is the creation of a negative as it considers influences from abroad strongly demarcated Germany. All areas of life, whether in business, politics or in culture, only German national to be oriented. "Multiethnic excesses, which are currently exposed to the German people" and "over-" should be avoided.

Again- mr spencer wants us to take mr rouhs at his word he's not a nazi. I think I'll pass.

629 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:34:16am
630 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:34:37am

If I had a choice it would be 1967 Vette or

1966 GTOor
1967 Shelby Mustang

631 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:34:47am

re: #624 realwest

I've read where Tamiflu works against it quite well. Course I THINK you need a doc for that - either an RX or a shot.

You need a prescription, and in an emergency access to it will be controlled. Many of us won't have access to it.

632 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:34:58am

re: #625 Dark_Falcon

Concur. For now we wait but if it looks like its going to show up near you, it might be a good time to take some vacation time.

The cases in Texas were in Guadalupe County, which borders Bexar County and my San Antonio domicile......:>((

633 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:35:45am

re: #627 realwest

Hi Rose! He's giving it to you as a wedding gift? Holy smokes, that's a GREAT GIFT - but I suspect you've got yourself a good man, too.
BTW, how's your Marine Corps son doing these days?

He is a good man, you bet.
My other good man is still in San Diego, ready and waiting to go.
Where he's going, we still have no idea.

634 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:36:08am

re: #616 KenJen
NO! It's not a lost cause, but y'all need to get at least 3 gig more RAM in there (they come in Sticks which even I managed to put in!) though the HD does sound kinda small for a VISTA. But I guarantee that doubling or tripling the RAM will greatly improve the performance.

635 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:36:13am

re: #606 realwest

Glad to hear it Erik! Hows the weather by you?

Been great the whole day. Big storm coming through as I type.

636 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:36:20am

Far-Right Poster Girl Turns Out to Be Czech Erotic Model

A German far-right group has run into trouble for a publication directed towards teens in Cologne. After first angering advertisers who felt they had been duped into supporting a xenophobic student magazine named Objektiv, the right-wing bigots are now accused of stealing pictures used in the 24-page publication.

Ironically, the photo in question is of an attractive blond in a tank top and short skirt next to the slogan: "German is Hot!" But in an embarrassing faux pas for the German nationalists, a Berlin Web blog found out that the Teutonic hottie is actually a Czech lingerie model. So much for offering a "free-patriotic point of view," as was supposedly the remit of the less-than-objective Objektiv.

"I didn't know anything about it," said Martin Schöppe, a Cologne high school student. His sentiments are echoed by Manfred Rouhs, an official from Pro Köln in the city government. "I can definitely and officially say that no one has contacted us about copyright infringement," Rouhs said, even though he could not explain why Jaimy's photo had been removed from the group's Web site. "I'm not familiar with that."

Having a hard time finding any info on this magazine- I think it's new.

637 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:36:29am

re: #622 jcm

Mr. Mom day, logged in lower case I guess wasn't paying attention.
43° and overcast today.

I tried logging in manually.
Let's see what comes out in the comment title-box.

638 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:37:26am
639 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:37:37am

re: #630 Erik The Red

If I had a choice it would be 1967 Vette or

1966 GTOor
1967 Shelby Mustang

three very nice cars...I'd take the GTO in a heartbeat...red, just like the pic

640 EaterOfFood  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:37:52am

re: #11 swamprat

In 1955 a physic was asked what would be considered the greatest threat to the earth in fifty years.

He answered,
"hairspray"
and disappeared into obscurity.

I know. John Travolta as a woman? Are you kidding? :D

641 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:38:14am

re: #628 Sharmuta

Manfred Rouhs


Again- mr spencer wants us to take mr rouhs at his word he's not a nazi. I think I'll pass.

And sadly, 99.9 percent of his sychophants will take him at his word without even a second thought.

642 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:39:34am

Canuck542 is going through the pamela poster girl thread and dinging everyone down.

643 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:39:36am

re: #631 Dark_Falcon
Huh, wonder if you can get it now just in case?

644 abolitionist  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:40:12am

re: #589 jcm

What are your hardware specs? M$ lies like a rug on the min. specs for Vista.

The min seems to be zero in some cases. My daughter's laptop came with Vista Home Premium 64bit. A couple days ago when I turned it on, I was greeted with a Windows XP logo, followed by a launch of Windows Media Center. Exit'd that, and it went into hibernate mode - which I'd specifically disabled in the Vista registry months ago.

645 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:41:14am

re: #632 Pietr

The cases in Texas were in Guadalupe County, which borders Bexar County and my San Antonio domicile......:>((

If it starts showing up in your county, I'd say to stay home as much as possible. Given the retail environment in which I work, if it becomes an epidemic across the US, I'd probably recommend my store be closed for the duration.

646 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:41:35am

re: #633 Irish Rose Well your fiancee would HAVE to be a good man to be YOUR fiancee!
And I hope you're other good man gets to stay in San Diego for a good while - it's really beautiful there (course, I don't know how beauiful it is if you're there as a US Marine, but as a tourist it's great! LOL!). Give him our best, please Rose.

647 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:42:02am

re: #616 KenJen

All I can tell you is that its a Compaq presario sr5601p. memory 1GB,Harddrive 250GB. Thanks for trying to help but I think it's a lost cause.

The CPU Athlon X2 Dual-Core is okay.
Memory, bump it up to 2GB or if you can 4GB.
HD is okay unless you're into photography or video.

What's killing you is this machine has shared graphics. Vista is a graphics hog. You machine uses the main CPU and memory to process graphics, that needs to be off loaded to a graphics card.

List of Graphics Cards.

648 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:42:03am

re: #622 jcm

Mr. Mom day, logged in lower case I guess wasn't paying attention.
43° and overcast today.

I tried logging out and logging back in with upper/lower case changed.
It defaults to the ordinary inside the thread.
How th' heck do YOU change case!

/nitpicky fixation

649 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:43:01am

re: #642 Sharmuta

Canuck542 is going through the pamela poster girl thread and dinging everyone down.

M*sturbating in the basement?

650 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:43:13am

re: #642 Sharmuta

Canuck542 is going through the pamela poster girl thread and dinging everyone down.

Also didn't like the david duke thread. I *wonder* why.

651 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:45:03am

re: #643 realwest

Huh, wonder if you can get it now just in case?

No, I don't think you can legally stockpile the stuff privately.

652 KenJen  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:45:24am

re: #618 realwest

Uh, well it's not too late - Geek Squad will service anyone's computer (but they aren't cheap!) if I were you I'd have 'em come check it out. Why'd you install a router anyway?

I'm not ignoring you. Customers keep coming in and interrupting my LGF time. I'm calling Geek Squad. Is there a Hunk Squad?

653 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:45:55am

re: #650 Sharmuta Huh - no comments posted by Canuck542 in the last two weeks - I've reported it to Charles.

654 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:45:57am

re: #650 Sharmuta

Also didn't like the david duke thread. I *wonder* why.

He really won't like it when Charles sees what he's up to and frog-marches him out the door.

655 rightymouse  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:46:44am

re: #642 Sharmuta

Canuck542 is going through the pamela poster girl thread and dinging everyone down.

How very brave of it to do that today when it thinks nobody is paying attention.
/

656 Bloodnok  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:46:59am

Good morning Lizards. It is the most gorgeous day in Boston. I just had to walk out to Harvard Square and enjoy it. I am now in full moonbat observation mode. One good thing about Cambridge, though, is the Internet is free almost everywhere.

657 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:47:00am

re: #639 albusteve

three very nice cars...I'd take the GTO in a heartbeat...red, just like the pic

Give me the Vette.

658 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:47:42am

I missed this one. Apparently Napolitano apologized (again) for that silly little pamphlet that DHS put out.
Apology tour, the stateside edition

659 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:48:36am

re: #657 Erik The Red
OK, I'll take the Shelby Mustang! SUCKERS! LOL!

660 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:49:00am

re: #657 Erik The Red

Give me the Vette.

yes, if it was a split-window coupe...$$$$

661 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:49:43am

Citizens' movement per Cologne (Pro-Koln)

The association was launched on 5 June 1996 in Cologne-Dünnwald as an offshoot of the German League for People and Homeland (DLVH) by former members of the Republican Party was founded. Among the founding members include the publisher Manfred Rouhs and Attorney Markus Beisicht. Together with other former members of REP, including Harald Neubauer and Karl Richter, were Rouhs and Beisicht already in the founding of the DLVH been involved in the 1991 to 1993 in the Group's strength in the Cologne city council was represented.

I would think "German League for People and Homeland" would be enough of a give away as to what sort of political party DLVH is, but just in case:

The DLVH was founded in 1991 as a party. Prominent was a founding member of the former NPD federal chairman Martin Mussgnug.

These nazis may move about from group to group, but does anyone honestly think they've changed their philosophies?

662 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:49:50am

re: #659 realwest

OK, I'll take the Shelby Mustang! SUCKERS! LOL!

A yellow Convertible Beemer..

663 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:49:55am

re: #655 rightymouse

How very brave of it to do that today when it thinks nobody is paying attention.
/

Someone here is always paying attention.
A lesson that is soon to be learned the hard way.

664 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:50:20am
665 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:50:29am

re: #658 Lincolntf

I missed this one. Apparently Napolitano apologized (again) for that silly little pamphlet that DHS put out.
Apology tour, the stateside edition

What do you think of her attempts to get herself out of this mess? I think she'll survive this one but she's going to be permanently damaged by it.

666 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:51:22am

re: #658 Lincolntf
Huh, from your link: "The report says veterans returning from Iraq or Afghanistan could be susceptible to right-wing recruiters or commit lone acts of violence." I read that report and don't remember that part of it at all - though possibly I was fixated on the right wing shit.

667 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:51:33am

re: #659 realwest

OK, I'll take the Shelby Mustang! SUCKERS! LOL!

probably comparable to the Corvette in speed and handling and value....you want it ALL don't ya?

668 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:51:44am

re: #659 realwest

OK, I'll take the Shelby Mustang! SUCKERS! LOL!

re: #660 albusteve

yes, if it was a split-window coupe...$$$$

I had a friend when I was 14 and living in Michigan, who's father had a 67 or 68 Vette in his garage. He was busy restoring it. I have wanted one since than.

669 Irish Rose  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:53:32am

I'm struggling this morning to find a fairly stylish contact form script for blogspot, any recommendations? A pop-down is what I prefer but it's not going to work there.

All of the forms that I'm finding are ugly and clunky.

670 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:53:36am

Morning Big Lizards, little lizards, and all the lizards at sea!

671 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:53:44am

re: #662 HoosierHoops

A yellow Convertible Beemer..

Yellow BMW M3

New tech. Not old school. Great car tho.

672 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:54:09am

re: #667 albusteve
Why yes, yes I DO want it all! LOL! My best bud in Law School used to work for Shelby and taught me everything I know about automobiles. Course now that everything under the hood is computerized all I can do is open the hood and say "yep, that's the motor ok!".

673 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:54:29am

re: #642 Sharmuta

Canuck542 is going through the pamela poster girl thread and dinging everyone down.

A downding with no reply to the subject comment is...

674 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:54:43am

re: #665 Dark_Falcon

Frankly, I don't think much of her at all. She's a PC figurehead in a job that requires actual heavy lifting. To the extent that she pleases the moonbat base I imagine Obama will keep her around, but she's a non-entity to me. Her apologies are so tempered and defensive that I accept them only because it's the polite thing to do. I don't believe that she really means a single word that comes out of her hole.

675 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:54:50am

re: #671 Erik The Red

Yellow BMW M3

New tech. Not old school. Great car tho.

Drool...

676 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:55:17am

re: #664 taxfreekiller

facts count up

[Link: www.who.int...]

thing is , sticking your head in the sand and leaving the border open
will not help that much

This is the one thing that would induce Obama to temporarily seal the border. He would hate doing so, but given the crippling political damage if he was seen as refusing needed action, he would do so, though he would probably allow some controlled humanitarian crossings (as would I).

677 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:55:20am

re: #668 Erik The Red

I had a friend when I was 14 and living in Michigan, who's father had a 67 or 68 Vette in his garage. He was busy restoring it. I have wanted one since than.

it's an American icon...and some of the more recent models are as fast as almost any car in the world and for far less money...still an excellent machine, but the older coupes are my favorite

678 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:55:27am

re: #672 realwest

Why yes, yes I DO want it all! LOL! My best bud in Law School used to work for Shelby and taught me everything I know about automobiles. Course now that everything under the hood is computerized all I can do is open the hood and say "yep, that's the motor ok!".

You can't even find the oil dip stick or plugs in the new cars.

679 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:55:33am

re: #648 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I tried logging out and logging back in with upper/lower case changed.
It defaults to the ordinary inside the thread.
How th' heck do YOU change case!

/nitpicky fixation

I use the shift key myself.....
;-P

680 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:55:34am

re: #654 Dark_Falcon
Phantom dingers piss me off. Gutless wonders.

681 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:56:06am

re: #679 jcm

I use the shift key myself.....
;-P

Interesting, I definitely logged in again with upper case.

682 KenJen  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:56:26am

re: #646 realwest

re: #647 jcm

Thanks guys. I may try your suggestions before calling in professionals. Probably would save some cash. Gosh customers crawling out of the woodwork.

683 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:56:47am

re: #679 jcm

I use the shift key myself.....
;-P

I asked for that!
:D
*bangs head on desk*

684 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:57:15am

re: #662 HoosierHoops
Good morning Hoops! Not a bad little car, but if ya drove it around NYC LOTS of people would be waiving at you - cause it's the same color as a licensed Taxi-Cab!
/ducks and heads for cover!

685 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:57:34am

re: #680 pingjockey

Phantom dingers piss me off. Gutless wonders.

Whereas, Phantom Pingers are OK-in fact, they're necessary......:>))

686 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:57:55am

re: #683 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Don't do that, you'll crack the desk!

687 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:58:05am

re: #670 pingjockey
Hey good morning ping! How are ya today?

688 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:59:03am

re: #685 Pietr
Kinda hard to be a phantom pinger if you are at full power, 270k watts of acoustic power into the water!

689 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:59:10am

re: #683 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Speaking of asking for it...

MWAH!

690 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:59:28am

re: #684 realwest

Good morning Hoops! Not a bad little car, but if ya drove it around NYC LOTS of people would be waiving at you - cause it's the same color as a licensed Taxi-Cab!
/ducks and heads for cover!

If you are talking yellow give me This any day.

691 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:59:40am

re: #672 realwest

Why yes, yes I DO want it all! LOL! My best bud in Law School used to work for Shelby and taught me everything I know about automobiles. Course now that everything under the hood is computerized all I can do is open the hood and say "yep, that's the motor ok!".

my friends dad bought an Audi, front wheel drive....we opened the hood and the motors was SIDEWAYS!...WTF?

692 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 7:59:51am

re: #687 realwest
Je's fine. Actually slept in to damn near 7:30 am PDT. A slug a bed that's me!

693 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:00:02am

re: #681 jcm

Interesting, I definitely logged in again with upper case.

I've relogged back in, but that time, I logged out and logged back in as PRE-bOOMER mARINE BRAT. Log-in on the Front Page showed that pattern. When I got back into the thread, my nic changed back to the usual.

/*sound of swishing cape, mad cackle* ... software is evil

694 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:00:19am

re: #689 goddessoftheclassroom Hey, good morning {goddess} I sure hope you're doing well today!

695 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:00:36am

re: #688 pingjockey

Kinda hard to be a phantom pinger if you are at full power, 270k watts of acoustic power into the water!

Some people can't resist bragging! Mine's bigger than yours!

/;-P Morning Ping!

696 rightymouse  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:00:53am

re: #663 Irish Rose

Someone here is always paying attention.
A lesson that is soon to be learned the hard way.

I hope so. It's such cowardly behavior. But then again, it apparently supports nazi enablers so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

697 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:01:02am

re: #684 realwest

Good morning Hoops! Not a bad little car, but if ya drove it around NYC LOTS of people would be waiving at you - cause it's the same color as a licensed Taxi-Cab!
/ducks and heads for cover!

I'd leave the top down and wave back!
Good Morning RW!

698 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:01:07am

re: #691 albusteve
Lots of cars have transverse mounted engines. We have a '97 Ford Escort wagon and its motor is sideways.

699 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:01:19am

re: #686 pingjockey

Don't do that, you'll crack the desk!

Is THAT why the furniture store calls me their "best friend"?

700 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:01:23am

re: #693 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I've relogged back in, but that time, I logged out and logged back in as PRE-bOOMER mARINE BRAT. Log-in on the Front Page showed that pattern. When I got back into the thread, my nic changed back to the usual.

/*sound of swishing cape, mad cackle* ... software is evil

Test.....

701 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:01:43am

re: #700 jcm

Test.....

Reloading the page... nope.

702 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:01:47am

re: #690 Erik The Red
WHOA! A lamborghini gallardo! Nice but I couldn't even afford the insurance on that beauty!

703 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:02:02am

re: #695 jcm
Mornin'. So whom will the Seahawks take with their pick?

704 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:02:30am

I'm just sick. More attacks on Charles while simultaneously posting whitewash from the nazis in question.

705 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:02:33am

re: #694 realwest

Hey, good morning {goddess} I sure hope you're doing well today!

I'm fine, thanks! I'm a bit annoyed with the Baby Lizard. I specifically told him his buddies could come over but NOT spend the night, and guess what? They're still here...

706 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:02:35am
707 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:02:58am

re: #665 Dark_Falcon

What do you think of her attempts to get herself out of this mess? I think she'll survive this one but she's going to be permanently damaged by it.

She'll do and say whatever Obama wants.
And neither of them wants to fix the stinking Mexican border or deal with the illegals.
However, he will throw her under the bus if she doesn't get her hoof out of her mouth.

708 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:03:00am

re: #702 realwest

WHOA! A lamborghini gallardo! Nice but I couldn't even afford the insurance on that beauty!

Hey we were talking about a wish list. I could not afford to replace 1 tyre that beaut.

709 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:03:03am

re: #699 pre-Boomer Marine brat
That is possible. In my case it's the glass store. 3 boys, baseballs, footballs, soccer balls.

710 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:03:39am

re: #698 pingjockey

Lots of cars have transverse mounted engines. We have a '97 Ford Escort wagon and its motor is sideways.

this was the mid seventies...we were astonished

711 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:03:46am

re: #704 Sharmuta

I haven't checked yet but we all expected this.

712 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:03:51am

re: #704 Sharmuta
What? Did you go over and wade in the cesspool?

713 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:03:52am

re: #692 pingjockey
7:30 AM on a Saturday? Why ping, you must be getting older! LOL!

714 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:04:01am

re: #703 pingjockey

Mornin'. So whom will the Seahawks take with their pick?

I've been so busy, have even looked at the draft.

What do you think, defensive backs, offensive line need more work.

715 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:04:19am
716 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:04:51am

re: #712 pingjockey

What? Did you go over and wade in the cesspool?

I've already been refuting it for the last hour!

Anyone know german? Two pages of rouhs at youtube.

717 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:05:27am

re: #697 HoosierHoops
Wave back? Well that's one way to let folks know you're not a cabbie! LOL!

718 Pietr  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:05:37am

BBIAB........

719 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:05:47am

re: #711 Killgore Trout

I haven't checked yet but we all expected this.

The funny thing is he's left it at "I have not committed". Has not, and will not, or is the door still open?

720 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:06:00am

re: #713 realwest
Heh. I wake up at 5am as normal, then try to go back to sleep. Today it worked.

721 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:06:36am

re: #704 Sharmuta
Who? Where?

722 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:06:59am

re: #714 jcm
O line or a linebacker. They may take a QB and trade for more picks though.

723 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:07:04am

re: #714 jcm

I've been so busy, have even looked at the draft.

What do you think, defensive backs, offensive line need more work.

Cowboys have eleven picks....mwahaha!...no first round tho

724 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:07:28am

re: #720 pingjockey

Heh. I wake up at 5am as normal, then try to go back to sleep. Today it worked.

Lazy slacker, my yard needs mowing!

;-)

725 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:07:35am

re: #716 Sharmuta
Where have you been brawling at?

726 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:07:40am

re: #709 pingjockey

That is possible. In my case it's the glass store. 3 boys, baseballs, footballs, soccer balls.

After putting up with all that, you certainly must have the balls needed to deal with Windows.

727 solomonpanting  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:07:47am
728 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:08:22am

re: #724 jcm
You may just go and piss up a rope! :)

729 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:09:06am

re: #726 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I totally dislike Windows! My next pc may be a Mac.

730 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:09:18am

re: #728 pingjockey
Hey, I'm telling - that's Mandy's line!

731 jaunte  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:09:23am

re: #719 Sharmuta

Have Spencer or Geller addressed the fact that the Pro Koln sites have announced Spencer's attendance? I wonder how they were 'misled.'

732 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:09:58am

re: #728 pingjockey

You may just go and piss up a rope! :)

BREAKING: Civil war in Washington State!

733 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:10:20am

re: #730 realwest
Baaah! I'm older than Mandy (age wise) and heard it from a granpa years ago!

734 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:11:11am

re: #732 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Naah, the Civil War is played in Ore. Here we play the Apple Cup!

735 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:11:43am

re: #731 jaunte
Good morning juante! How are you doing today and what makes you think that anything they said would be the truth?

736 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:11:46am

re: #731 jaunte

Have Spencer or Geller addressed the fact that the Pro Koln sites have announced Spencer's attendance? I wonder how they were 'misled.'

Upthread, I linked how Pro-Koln has it's roots in the NPD. Pam and Bob can spin, whitewash, whatever all they want to but it doesn't change the the stink on their new friends. But smearing Charles while posting comments from the nazis in an attempt to help them mainstream themselves, is really all you need to know about bob.

737 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:12:23am

re: #735 realwest

Good morning juante! How are you doing today and what makes you think that anything they said would be the truth?

Uh- Charles' objectivity is being questioned, in an attempt to deflect from questioning robert's.

738 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:12:41am

I think I need to talk a walk early this morning. BBIAB

739 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:12:48am

re: #728 pingjockey

You may just go and piss up a rope! :)

LOL! And I thought we were friends!

I've tried glaring at grass.... doesn't work, so I'm spending my time on a LASER mower, one pass mowing.....

740 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:13:49am

re: #737 Sharmuta Ah, so you're at Spencer's site - for some reason I thought you were at Pam's site.
And who's doing the questioning - Spencer or his thugs
commenters?

741 jaunte  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:14:33am

re: #735 realwest

Since the Pro Koln sites have made a big deal (relatively) about Spencer attending, I find it odd that he would now say he wasn't 'confirmed' to go.
His actions betray discomfort with who those people really are despite the smokescreen and filibustering.

742 jaunte  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:15:20am

re: #741 jaunte

Or rather, discomfort at having their true agenda and connections outed.

743 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:15:58am

re: #741 jaunte
Well I think his actions betray discomfort at being called out on it myself.

744 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:16:37am

*snerklesnufflegragheckle*

745 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:17:49am

re: #744 MandyManners

*snerklesnufflegragheckle*

Morning 2M. Translation please or have you not had any coffee yet?

746 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:18:09am

re: #739 jcm
Technology, science!

747 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:18:52am

re: #744 MandyManners
Allergies or a cold? {Mandy}

748 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:19:07am

re: #509 Erik The Red

I think gmac can do it to 200 plus.

gmsc – and I can do it to 400 places.
;)

749 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:19:18am

re: #744 MandyManners

*snerklesnufflegragheckle*

Only Mandy "nose" what that was supposed to mean.

/sinuses?

750 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:19:33am

re: #746 pingjockey

Technology, science!

I'LL BE RICH!

751 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:19:35am

re: #748 gmsc

gmsc – and I can do it to 400 places.
;)

Well excuse me......

752 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:19:59am

re: #739 jcm

LOL! And I thought we were friends!

I've tried glaring at grass.... doesn't work, so I'm spending my time on a LASER mower, one pass mowing.....

let some of go wild...you won't be disappointed, unless you are obsessed with edging etc

753 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:20:03am
754 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:20:17am

re: #750 jcm
Heh. The underwear gnomes won't have a chance.

755 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:20:21am

re: #745 Erik The Red
I think she's trying to say "I HOPE EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WASN'T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW!" At least that's a good guess!

756 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:20:29am

re: #746 pingjockey

Technology, science!

What are two things that a majority of liberals violently oppose?

757 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:20:58am

re: #748 gmsc

gmsc – and I can do it to 400 places.
;)

I saw the gmac after I posted did not fix. Sorry gmsc

758 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:21:07am

re: #751 Erik The Red

Well excuse me......

No problem. Thanks for thinking of me when I wasn't here, BTW!

759 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:21:12am

re: #727 solomonpanting

That's too bad. I suspect he might get arrested a few more times on his European tour. The governments might just hassle him to keep him from coming back.

760 J.D.  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:21:31am

re: #755 {realwest}

I think she's trying to say "I HOPE EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WASN'T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW!" At least that's a good guess!

Really?
What makes you think that?

Morning y'all.

761 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:21:33am

re: #756 gmsc
Mwahaha! Neo-luddites of the world unite. All you have to lose is your standard of living.

762 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:21:56am

re: #757 Erik The Red

I saw the gmac after I posted did not fix. Sorry gmsc

No problem. I just didn't want people confusing me with a finance company.
;)

763 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:22:07am

here's a great story....for football fans

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

764 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:22:25am

re: #762 gmsc

No problem. I just didn't want people confusing me with a finance company.
;)

LOL

765 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:22:44am

re: #760 J.D.
Good morning {J.D.} oh I don't know - just a wild guess!
How are you doing today?

766 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:23:03am
767 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:23:19am

re: #749 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Only Mandy "nose" what that was supposed to mean.

/sinuses?

Ugh.

768 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:23:36am

re: #763 albusteve
They better stock up on Ben Gay and Ace wraps!

769 J.D.  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:23:54am

re: #765 realwest

Doing well, thanks.
Beautiful day here!
Hope you're doing well?

770 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:24:20am

re: #768 pingjockey

They better stock up on Ben Gay and Ace wraps!

I can't even imagine...but 10k tickets!

771 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:24:21am

re: #767 MandyManners

Ugh.

{Mandy} !

772 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:24:51am

re: #763 albusteve
Haven't a link, heard it on ESPN radio, some 12 yr old girl threw a perfect game in...boys little league!

773 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:25:25am

re: #766 taxfreekiller

The missing link is the 50% who do not vote.

The enableing was done after the 2008 election by the RINO'S IN THE SENATE.

Fix two things, its done.

We just had elections here in South Africa. Something like 80% of eligible people registered to vote. Of that we had a 77% turn out. Not to bad.

774 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:25:34am

re: #755 realwest

I think she's trying to say "I HOPE EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WASN'T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW!" At least that's a good guess!

I wonder what the cumulative upding score for that is.

775 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:26:01am

re: #770 albusteve
The wives will be cringing, the kids will be laughing their asses off. A fun time for all, until the next morning when those guys try to get out of bed!

776 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:26:06am

re: #767 MandyManners

Ugh.

{MandyManners}

777 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:26:27am

re: #763 albusteve
YES! That is a GREAT STORY! But I'd have to say at their respective ages, they might want to make it a 30 minute game!

778 opnion  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:26:59am

re: #766 taxfreekiller

The missing link is the 50% who do not vote.

The enableing was done after the 2008 election by the RINO'S IN THE SENATE.

Fix two things, its done.

Good morning all. Safe harbor for Obama Is "Comprehensive Immigration Reform"
The new voters created will be Democrat voters for years.

779 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:26:59am

re: #774 jcm

I wonder what the cumulative upding score for that is.

It must be huge.

780 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:27:03am

re: #773 Erik The Red
That's fraking great. Is the ANC still communist?

781 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:27:43am

From the blogfather:

JENNIFER RUBIN: Government Bullying of Private Industry More Serious than Imagined. “Three cheers for Andrew Cuomo! No, honestly. He’s taken a break from extorting AIG execs to give up their bonuses to expose a far more frightening extortion plot: the effort by former Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and current Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke to force Bank of America to go through with the Merrill Lynch deal — and conceal the mammoth losses from the shareholders.” I continue to wonder why this isn’t a massive securities law violation.

Maybe 0bama has a somewhat Nixonian attitude:

When the President does it, that means that it's not illegal.
-Richard M. Nixon

782 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:28:32am

re: #772 pingjockey

Haven't a link, heard it on ESPN radio, some 12 yr old girl threw a perfect game in...boys little league!

whoa...I read a blurb that some high school pitcher has tossed four consecutive no-nos...sports is going berzerk!

783 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:28:36am

re: #769 J.D. Well my back is still killing me and my allergies are driving me crazy (I know, I know: short trip!) but other than that I'm fine!
Glad you're doing well today!

784 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:28:37am

Note to self: Never vacation in Morocco with Jimmy Stewart.

785 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:28:52am

re: #781 gmsc
Nixon can't hold a candle to obambis' nefarious doings.

786 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:29:13am

re: #774 jcm

I wonder what the cumulative upding score for that is.

I got to No. 1 yesterday!

787 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:29:29am

OK, I just got around to reading Spencer's rebuttal. The pic is a photoshop but it still doesn't change the substance of the argument. VB, and Pro Koln are pals. the point is not where they are shaking hands. If it's in front of an antifa rally or a rooftop makes no difference.

788 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:29:33am
789 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:29:41am

re: #784 MandyManners
Right over my head.

790 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:29:49am

re: #776 goddessoftheclassroom

It burnsssssssssssssssss.

791 albusteve  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:30:29am

re: #777 realwest

YES! That is a GREAT STORY! But I'd have to say at their respective ages, they might want to make it a 30 minute game!

no kidding...run around, drink some beer, go home....these guys are SERIOUS

792 jaunte  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:30:43am

Photoshop very shiny.

793 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:30:44am

re: #780 pingjockey

That's fraking great. Is the ANC still communist?

Officially no. Unofficially of course. They did lose their 2 third majority though. Means they can not change the Constitution.

794 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:31:17am

re: #789 pingjockey

Right over my head.

Google.

795 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:31:33am

re: #786 MandyManners

I got to No. 1 yesterday!

You get to #1 every time you pull that out. :)

796 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:31:42am

re: #774 jcm
I honestly have no idea, but it's gotta be over 100 - shoot the first time she posted it she got like 60+ updings and when she posted it most recently, she got another 43!
But it's a great line and deserves repeating, I think.

797 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:31:43am

re: #784 MandyManners

Note to self: Never vacation in Morocco with Jimmy Stewart.

What's wrong with Jimmy Stewart?

/Jimmy Carter I could understand...

798 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:32:12am

re: #794 MandyManners
Ah ha. I asked earlier, allergies or a bug?

799 yochanan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:32:22am

re: #793 Erik The Red

does your wife/girl friend ask you to put on a coat in stormy weather?

800 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:32:27am

re: #790 MandyManners

It burnsssssssssssssssss.

{ {MandyManners} }

801 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:32:46am
802 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:32:49am

Gotta' get dressed to take The Kid to yet another party.

That's all these kids do nowadays. Party. Party. Party. Why, in my day....

803 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:33:08am

re: #793 Erik The Red
They were wanting to change the constitution?

804 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:33:09am

re: #796 realwest

I honestly have no idea, but it's gotta be over 100 - shoot the first time she posted it she got like 60+ updings and when she posted it most recently, she got another 43!
But it's a great line and deserves repeating, I think.

I'd wager over 300 updings by now.

805 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:33:15am

re: #785 pingjockey

Nixon can't hold a candle to obambis' nefarious doings.

Of course not, I was just suggesting a possible attitude for 0bama.

806 yochanan  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:33:18am

re: #793 Erik The Red

if they do you could always say
"erik the red knows rain dear."

807 J.D.  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:33:29am

re: #783 realwest

Sorry to hear that. Everyone who has allergies seems to be a mess right now.
Better get that back looked at!

808 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:33:44am

re: #802 MandyManners

Gotta' get dressed to take The Kid to yet another party.

That's all these kids do nowadays. Party. Party. Party. Why, in my day....

Why these kids today, with their hair and their clothes . . .
;)

809 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:33:56am

Time for me to get going. Till tonight all.

810 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:34:02am

re: #805 gmsc
I think it's ego. I'm the one, etc...

811 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:34:11am

re: #784 MandyManners

Note to self: Never vacation in Morocco with Jimmy Stewart.

Jimmy Stewart payoff at the end.

812 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:34:30am

Hey, Wayne Rodgers is pretty sharp.

813 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:34:33am

re: #809 Dark_Falcon

Time for me to get going. Till tonight all.

Later, Dark_Falcon!

814 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:35:08am

re: #787 Killgore Trout

OK, I just got around to reading Spencer's rebuttal. The pic is a photoshop but it still doesn't change the substance of the argument. VB, and Pro Koln are pals. the point is not where they are shaking hands. If it's in front of an antifa rally or a rooftop makes no difference.

And to top it off- he posts nazi apologia straight from the source.

Additionally, see this comment from 'gegenkritik'.

815 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:35:13am

re: #809 Dark_Falcon
Have a good day.

816 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:35:16am

re: #799 yochanan

does your wife/girl friend ask you to put on a coat in stormy weather?

Over my head.

817 Truck Monkey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:35:29am

re: #802 MandyManners

Gotta' get dressed to take The Kid to yet another party.

That's all these kids do nowadays. Party. Party. Party. Why, in my day....

You walked to school, both ways, uphill against a strong headwind in freezing temperatures with no shoes and wet hair........ AND you enjoyed it!

818 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:35:47am

re: #797 goddessoftheclassroom Um {goddess} Jimmy is dead.
Other than that, there's nothing at all wrong with him. A truly GREAT American.

819 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:36:07am

re: #797 goddessoftheclassroom

What's wrong with Jimmy Stewart?

/Jimmy Carter I could understand...

I suspect it has something to do with "The Man Who Knew Too Much" (Hitchcock, w/ Doris Day) but I don't get it.

Sounds like she's Marlene Dietrich, desperately following Gary Cooper out across the sands.

820 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:37:46am

re: #811 jcm

I was just thinking, "what this thread needs is a link to Hustler", but that's not what I had in mind.

Good (late) morning.

821 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:38:22am

It is 5 hours until the NFL Draft starts, ESPN already has started their coverage!

822 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:39:06am
823 J.D.  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:39:41am

Telling the Truth
Let the hearings begin!

Some Democrats, from the White House on down, are pushing the idea of a "truth commission," à la South Africa, to deal with the "harsh measures" used by the Bush administration in interrogating al Qaeda detainees. Good. Let's have lots of truthtelling. Please bring it on.

Let's tell the truth about Bush's conduct of the war on terror, which is that it's been a success. His ultimate legacy hasn't been written--Iraq is improved, but not out of danger--but the one thing that can be said without reservation is that the country was kept safe. He delivered on the main charge of his office in time of emergency, in a crisis without guidelines or precedent. Attacks took place in Spain, and in London, in Indonesia and India, but not on American soil, which was the obvious target of choice. Bush couldn't say this before he left office, for obvious reasons, and after he left, attention switched to the new president. This little fact dropped down the memory hole, but with all this discussion, it will rise to the surface. Let the hearings begin!

Also dropped down the memory hole--along with the names of all the Democrats who thought Saddam was a menace who cried out for removal--is what the ambience was like in late 2001 and 2002, when fears of anthrax and suitcase bombs ran rampant, and people on all sides tried to seem tough. Let's tell the truth about all the liberals who went on record supporting real torture, not to
mention the Democrats in Congress, when it was cool to want to seem tough on our enemies, who couldn't be too warlike. Then war and tough measures stopped being cool, and "world opinion" became more important. Nothing like statements under oath to revive ancient memories! And rewind the tapes.

Let's get at the truth too about the word "torture," which to different people, means different things. Some think "torture" means standing on the 98th floor of a burning skyscraper and realizing you have a choice between jumping and being incinerated. Some think torture is being crushed when a building implodes around you. Some think torture is not thinking you might drown for several minutes, but looking at burning buildings on television and knowing that people you love are inside them. They remember that being crushed, incinerated, or killed in a jump from the 98th story happened to almost 3,000 blameless Americans (as well as a number of foreigners), and that 125 Pentagon employees were killed at their desks, while many survivors suffered terrible burns. They think the choice between stopping this from happening again by slapping around or scaring the hell out of a cluster of brigands, or leaving the brigands alone and letting it happen again, is a no-brainer.

Not much polling has been done to date about attitudes on waterboarding and torture held by the general public (as opposed to MoveOn.org and the Washington press corps), but it would surely be done in the event of hearings and trials. Not many people think being slapped hard is the same thing as having to jump from a building. Democrats might find the truth about this to be inconvenient indeed. ...


Great article!
She doesn't pull any punches.

824 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:39:43am

re: #803 pingjockey

They were wanting to change the constitution?

There was a concern with Zuma coming in. He is seen as very pro poor and socialistic. We have a huge problem here. The only short to medium term fix is to go more socialistic. I can see no real way out of the the problems here except to go this way.

That is one of the reasons I am getting the hell out.

825 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:40:20am

re: #822 taxfreekiller
Take care tfk.

826 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:40:48am

re: #820 Occasional Reader
Good morning sleepyhead! How are you doing today?

827 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:41:12am

Obama’s budget cutting - small potatoes

Lots of folks are having fun pointing out that Obama’s “$100 million budget cut” on a $3.69 trillion budget is pretty small potatoes.

Speaking of small potatoes, here’s my analogy:

A Big Mac has 540 calories.

A small McDonalds French Fries has 230. Looking at the picture at the McDonalds website, I could believe that there are maybe 42 fries in there, so call it perhaps 5.4 calories per individual fry.

So, Obama’s budget is like saying

“Please give me 370 Big Macs … and one french fry. No, not “a small order of fries.” Just a single, lone french fry.

Wait.

Actually, I’m trying to lose weight.

Cancel that french fry - I’ll just have the 370 Big Macs.“

828 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:42:15am

re: #824 Erik The Red
Going more socialist would be the alarm bell for me. The US is headed that way. We need a damn big anchor to stop us from thatslippery slope.

829 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:42:38am

re: #814 Sharmuta

Ah, Thanks. Like all the EuroNazis they only recently became pro-Israel. They are just shifting the focus of their hate.

830 BlueCanuck  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:43:32am

Morning all. What is the topic up for discussion right now?

831 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:43:48am

re: #829 Killgore Trout
Don't you believe it. They're just hiding it. They hate everybody who isn't in their group.

832 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:44:14am

re: #828 pingjockey

Going more socialist would be the alarm bell for me. The US is headed that way. We need a damn big anchor to stop us from thatslippery slope.

The difference is the US will go down this road for 4 (or god forbid 8) years only. Once Africa jumps on this slide it is a 30 year+ ride.

833 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:44:18am

re: #829 Killgore Trout

Ah, Thanks. Like all the EuroNazis they only recently became pro-Israel. They are just shifting the focus of their hate.

I also did this digging up thread.

834 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:44:21am

re: #826 realwest

Good morning sleepyhead! How are you doing today?

Oh, I wasn't asleep all this time, just not online.

Yes, there IS a "not online" world, folks!

835 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:44:48am

re: #823 J.D.
A thousand updings if I could!

836 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:45:07am

re: #827 gmsc

Obama’s budget cutting - small potatoes

Obama is going cut the deficit in half!
He promised.

However half of his deficit is still double GWB's.
I thought GWB's stank to high heaven!

837 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:45:17am

re: #830 BlueCanuck

Morning all. What is the topic up for discussion right now?

HEY BLUE. Was thinking of you earlier. Miss you on the LNDT. Find a new job.:)

838 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:45:50am

Queen Clinton to Iraqis: - "news.yahoo.com...]> "we will not abandon you" 'Sure... Before the election we were going to kick you to the curb, but now that our fickle political opportunities have changed, we no longer hate you.'

839 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:45:53am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Our despicable government has betrayed the Gurkhas again. Its policy on allowing them into the UK is in stark contrast to that which allows any proto-jihadist into the country.

Joanna Lumley ( of 'Absolutely Fabulous'-fame) has been campaingning for them, her father was a major in one of the Gurkha regiments:
Loyal fighters deserted in their own hour of need

At the bottom of her comments is a link where one can sign a petition - I urge you to please sign it.

I'm one very angry Lizard right now!

840 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:46:17am

re: #833 Sharmuta

I also did this digging up thread.

I'll take Spencer at his word, he's not a nazi.
Just a collaborator.

841 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:46:23am

re: #836 jcm

Obama is going cut the deficit in half!
He promised.

However half of his deficit is still double GWB's.
I thought GWB's stank to high heaven!

It stank due to the complete lack of liberal programs!

////////////////////
(I feel dirty just joking about that.)

842 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:47:06am
843 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:47:28am

re: #827 gmsc I just don't see how he can PROPOSE a budget that CALLS FOR a ONE and ONE-HALF TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT.

844 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:48:19am

re: #842 Occasional Reader

Mexico City cancels all public events to fight flu.

Paging Randall Flagg.

Last seen on a tropical island......

845 BlueCanuck  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:49:14am

re: #837 Erik The Red

Yeah, I have been missing all the social misfits there as well. Oh well that's life. Good news is that I have been getting a lot more exercise. Today is a gorgeous one out too. Sunny, warm, and a little humidity. Should be getting some thunder bangers this afternoon.

846 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:49:29am

re: #833 Sharmuta

good work. The funny thing is that with all the denial and claims of victory Spencer and Geller are still backing out of the conference.

847 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:49:36am

re: #843 realwest

I just don't see how he can PROPOSE a budget that CALLS FOR a ONE and ONE-HALF TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT.

Buying votes is expensive.

848 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:50:07am

re: #847 jcm

Buying votes is expensive.

Alas, I can only give that but one upding!

849 KenJen  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:50:23am

re: #783 realwest

Well my back is still killing me and my allergies are driving me crazy (I know, I know: short trip!) but other than that I'm fine!
Glad you're doing well today!

Ha! You sound just like my boss. He started Singular this week and it really helped him.

850 DEZes  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:50:48am

re: #848 gmsc

Alas, I can only give that but one upding!

I gave it one for ya. ;)

851 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:50:48am

re: #845 BlueCanuck

Yeah, I have been missing all the social misfits there as well. Oh well that's life. Good news is that I have been getting a lot more exercise. Today is a gorgeous one out too. Sunny, warm, and a little humidity. Should be getting some thunder bangers this afternoon.

I hope you are talking about red and not me:)

852 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:51:00am

also, he likes apple pie

Headline at the Globe:

Obama speaks out against the Holocaust


I love having a brave president who will take unpopular stands.

But, seriously, it’s nice to be all tought against Hitler, who died 16 years before Obama’s birth, but it would be slightly ballsier if he spoke out against, say, Castro or Chavez.

853 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:51:12am

re: #846 Killgore Trout

good work. The funny thing is that with all the denial and claims of victory Spencer and Geller are still backing out of the conference.

Really?!

854 BlueCanuck  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:51:35am

re: #851 Erik The Red

Red is an class all his own. :)

855 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:51:42am

re: #846 Killgore Trout

good work. The funny thing is that with all the denial and claims of victory Spencer and Geller are still backing out of the conference.

Except I noticed the language was still weaselly. He said he has not committed, not that he's not going.

856 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:51:55am

re: #840 jcm

I'll take Spencer at his word, he's not a nazi.
Just a collaborator.

Have only skimmed the trheads relating to this - not the comments.
Spencer may not be a Nazi - but anybody who can make common cause with people who march behind a flag with the German word 'ERWACHE' on it, a word well known from Nazi propaganda ('Deutschland erwache!'), is not just a collaborator, he is at the least an enabler.
I'd put him on the same level as those other famous non-nazis like Papen, Schleicher, Schacht ...

857 Erik The Red  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:52:21am

I am on dinner call. BBL

858 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:52:26am

re: #852 gmsc

also, he likes apple pie

Obama had an opinion on something that occurred before he was born?
Shocka!

859 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:52:34am

re: #839 yma o hyd
Good afternoon {yma} - hope you're doing better! I read that article and the comments and frankly some of the comments support this move. You should write your own comment.
"Signed" the petition, but as I'm not a UK resident, I don't think it'll count for much.

860 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:52:39am

re: #839 yma o hyd
Done and done, but it didn't take my comment on the article page.

861 KenJen  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:53:25am

re: #831 pingjockey

Hi ping. Do you have a pick for the Kentucky Derby? It's a week away. I thought you might have the inside scoop being a jockey and all./

862 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:53:25am

Obama legal team wants to limit defendants' rights

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Obama administration is asking the Supreme Court to overrule a 23 year-old decision that stopped police from initiating questions unless a defendant's lawyer is present, the latest stance that has disappointed civil rights and civil liberties groups.

While President Barack Obama has reversed many policies of his Republican predecessor, George W. Bush, the defendants' rights case is another stark example of the White House seeking to limit rather than expand rights.

Since taking office, Obama has drawn criticism for backing the continued imprisonment of enemy combatants in Afghanistan without trial, invoking the "state secrets" privilege to avoid releasing information in lawsuits and limiting the rights of prisoners to test genetic evidence used to convict them.

Scary. Read the whole thing.

863 MJ  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:54:19am

The Guardian newspaper stages Caryl Churchill's antisemitic play:


Churchill's Children: Guardian reading for Caryl Churchill's Gaza play

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]


So here you have a "newspaper" which actually staged a play which many consider to be a blood libel. This is the same venue which many of Left choose to use to get their news about events in the Middle East.

864 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:55:16am

re: #861 KenJen
Mwahaha! I couldn't tell you the name of one horse running. I do have one trick that has never failed me. In a turf race bet on the jockey from the UK or Ireland who has the most turf races.

865 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:55:25am

re: #846 Killgore Trout

good work. The funny thing is that with all the denial and claims of victory Spencer and Geller are still backing out of the conference.

Do you have a link to that fact.

And I just saw the Filip Dewinter/Markus Beisicht photo, with the original, Spencer is claiming photoshop. What's up with that.

866 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:56:19am

re: #862 gmsc

Obama legal team wants to limit defendants' rights

Scary. Read the whole thing.

When they get those uber scary right wing extremists in the room, a attorney might object to waterboarding them to find out where they keep their arsenal.

////////

The gun safe, duh!

867 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:56:53am

re: #858 jcm
"Obama had an opinion on something that occurred before he was born?Shocka!
There, FTFY!

868 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:57:10am

re: #859 realwest

Good afternoon {yma} - hope you're doing better! I read that article and the comments and frankly some of the comments support this move. You should write your own comment.
"Signed" the petition, but as I'm not a UK resident, I don't think it'll count for much.

My comments don't get published any more, at The TIMES ... have been too pro-Israel, methinks, in earlier comments ...

Just saw that you're fighting allergies as well - they are dreadful!
I've got them so bad, in spite of all the drugs I'm taking, that I've asked for an urgent referral to the allergy specialist.

I don't know - we were supposed not to get them any longer after the age of 50.
They lied ...

869 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:58:10am

re: #860 pingjockey

Done and done, but it didn't take my comment on the article page.

They are moderated.
My comments have not made it through since Operation Cast Lead ...

870 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:58:12am

re: #865 Walter L. Newton

And I just saw the Filip Dewinter/Markus Beisicht photo, with the original, Spencer is claiming photoshop. What's up with that.

It's called deflection, and it worked with robert's little unthinking drones. It doesn't matter that robert posted whitewash comments from the nazis in question- it only matters that robert was able to score a cheap point.

871 KenJen  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:59:02am

re: #864 pingjockey

Mwahaha! I couldn't tell you the name of one horse running. I do have one trick that has never failed me. In a turf race bet on the jockey from the UK or Ireland who has the most turf races.

I always bet on the horse that poops in the paddock.

872 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:59:43am

re: #869 yma o hyd
Buncha twits.

873 opnion  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 8:59:47am

Did anybody hear Pelosi's explanation about her participation in the interrogation briefings? She said that she was briefed that water boarding "might" be used, not that it "would" be used. A difference without meaning?

874 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:00:23am

re: #870 Sharmuta

It's called deflection, and it worked with robert's little unthinking drones. It doesn't matter that robert posted whitewash comments from the nazis in question- it only matters that robert was able to score a cheap point.

I'm asking what about the photo. Is it true or not. Was the "rally" photo really a photoshop taken from the "handshake" photo.

I'm not interested in opinions as to what Robert is trying to do, I am simply asking about the validity of the photo.

Any answer?

875 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:00:35am

Newt pwns Goracle.

876 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:00:45am

re: #873 opnion
They learned from Billy Jeff on how to parse words.

877 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:00:49am

re: #863 MJ

The Guardian newspaper stages Caryl Churchill's antisemitic play:

Churchill's Children: Guardian reading for Caryl Churchill's Gaza play

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

So here you have a "newspaper" which actually staged a play which many consider to be a blood libel. This is the same venue which many of Left choose to use to get their news about events in the Middle East.

'Many of the Left'?
Gah - its the whole of the LLL London Intelligentsia, who also populate the Beeb and thus heavily influence the opinion of ordinary people.
Why else, do you think, has this despicable government in the UK lasted so long, and why else have their politicians been given the benefit of doubt again and again and again ...

878 opnion  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:01:00am

re: #852 gmsc

also, he likes apple pie

No, they voted for him.

879 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:01:08am

re: #862 gmsc
WOW and Holy Shit! That's just bad legal reasoning and bad politics too. I can understand Obama/Holder having bad legal reasoning, but bad politics for their side?

880 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:01:51am

re: #855 Sharmuta

That's because they have to make it look like they're doing it for other reasons. Pamela put up a thread promoting her appearance at the conference and all of a sudden she's not sure if she can make it. It looks to me like they're going to back out. They're just trying to save face.

881 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:02:25am

re: #873 opnion

Did anybody hear Pelosi's explanation about her participation in the interrogation briefings? She said that she was briefed that water boarding "might" be used, not that it "would" be used. A difference without meaning?

Didn't hear this, for obvious reasons, but this is what is called back-pedalling' and 'weaselling out'.
Its what LLL politicians are very good at ...

882 opnion  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:03:23am

re: #876 pingjockey

They learned from Billy Jeff on how to parse words.

If I was Pelosi I would not want any investigation . She is conceding that water boarding was discussed. Why didn't she object at the time?

883 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:03:34am

re: #881 yma o hyd

Didn't hear this, for obvious reasons, but this is what is called back-pedalling' and 'weaselling out'.
Its what LLL politicians are very good at ...

Pelosi loves that sort of lie.

884 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:04:12am

re: #880 Killgore Trout

They're just trying to save face.

They don't have a face between 'em worth saving.

885 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:04:31am

re: #865 Walter L. Newton

It's a photoshop. Probably the Antifa creeps photoshopped themselves into the background. It still doesn't change the substance of the pic that Dewinter and Rouhs are pals shaking hands. The background isn't essential to that fact. They could be doing it on the moon and that still would change the substance.

886 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:04:46am

re: #880 Killgore Trout

Do they have any face to save?

887 rightymouse  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:04:47am

re: #881 yma o hyd

Didn't hear this, for obvious reasons, but this is what is called back-pedalling' and 'weaselling out'.
Its what LLL politicians are very good at ...

The word 'lying' applies to pols as well.

888 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:05:02am

re: #883 Dianna
"Pelosi loves lives that sort of lie."
FTFY!

889 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:05:31am

re: #862 gmsc

Obama wants to curtail defendant's rights, he allowed Hillary to throw Tibet completely under the bus, his "ethical and transparent" administration has been secretive and stuffed with frauds, liars and cheats, his "Pakistani strategy" is rapidly coming unraveled, and his "soaring oratory" sounds like a high school junior reading a book report. These were all supposed to be his strong points, for crying out loud.
The Lefties still love him, of course, which points out the fact that the only principle that means anything to them is the principle of acquiring power for themselves.

890 rightymouse  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:05:39am

re: #885 Killgore Trout

It's a photoshop. Probably the Antifa creeps photoshopped themselves into the background. It still doesn't change the substance of the pic that Dewinter and Rouhs are pals shaking hands. The background isn't essential to that fact. They could be doing it on the moon and that still would change the substance.

Fake but accurate?

891 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:05:40am

re: #888 realwest

"Pelosi loves lives that sort of lie."
FTFY!

Accurately, too! Thanks.

892 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:05:50am

re: #874 Walter L. Newton

I'm asking what about the photo. Is it true or not. Was the "rally" photo really a photoshop taken from the "handshake" photo.

I'm not interested in opinions as to what Robert is trying to do, I am simply asking about the validity of the photo.

Any answer?

Both images come up in a search of the two gentleman.

893 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:06:02am

re: #882 opnion
Because they were all for it and never thought any of this would come out!

894 opnion  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:06:52am

re: #883 Dianna

Pelosi loves that sort of lie.

THe fact is , she does not deny that water boarding was discussed. She knows that others present would confirm the discussion. She wanted to be safe at the time & now she wants to beat up the people that kept her safe.

895 J.D.  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:07:10am

re: #882 opnion

If I was Pelosi I would not want any investigation . She is conceding that water boarding was discussed. Why didn't she object at the time?


That was then, this is now.
She's an opportunist, and to hell with honesty.

896 Occasional Reader  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:07:12am

Later.

897 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:07:12am

re: #889 Lincolntf
Actually, the only "principle" that elite LEFTY'S live by is: "I've got mine, screw you."

898 kansas  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:07:16am

re: #879 realwest

WOW and Holy Shit! That's just bad legal reasoning and bad politics too. I can understand Obama/Holder having bad legal reasoning, but bad politics for their side?

If I get in trouble I want the same rights the scumbags have had for what, 40 years? This change is not done with the best intentions for citizens.

899 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:07:20am

re: #886 Dianna

Spencer is trying to salvage his credibility. Last week's CAIR press release busted him for speaking to a thinly veiled White Nationalist group. He's trying to be more careful until this blows over.

900 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:08:00am

re: #885 Killgore Trout

It's a photoshop. Probably the Antifa creeps photoshopped themselves into the background. It still doesn't change the substance of the pic that Dewinter and Rouhs are pals shaking hands. The background isn't essential to that fact. They could be doing it on the moon and that still would change the substance.

But, it does show that WE have to be careful too, or else or credibility will be no better than Pam and Robert.

It's perception, and it counts for as much as being right, when you are fighting these sort of battles.

IMHO, this photo needs to be addressed.

901 Athos  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:08:26am

re: #894 opnion

THe fact is , she does not deny that water boarding was discussed. She knows that others present would confirm the discussion. She wanted to be safe at the time & now she wants to beat up the people that kept her safe.

Politics and power are all that count for the Speaker....not the country. That is why she is willing to lie and then wiggle her statements around to hide the fact that her initial response was a flat out lie.

902 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:09:40am

re: #890 rightymouse

Sort of. The original pic doesn't change anything. If Charles posted the pic as proof that they attended an antifa rally then it would be different. I don't the the background as essential to the story.

903 KenJen  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:09:48am

re: #900 Walter L. Newton

Are you talking about the photo on yesterdays thread?

904 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:09:58am

re: #900 Walter L. Newton

Agreed.

905 opnion  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:10:01am

re: #893 pingjockey

Because they were all for it and never thought any of this would come out!

I think that they wanted safety & weren't fussy how we got it.
Now it is an opportunity to keep Bush as the national pinata & they don't seem to care who gets hurt.

906 kansas  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:10:13am

re: #882 opnion

If I was Pelosi I would not want any investigation . She is conceding that water boarding was discussed. Why didn't she object at the time?

Since the "investigations" will consist of a bunch of Democrats grandstanding before the cameras, and the MSM lying about whatever comes up, why should she care?

907 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:10:20am

re: #873 opnion

Did anybody hear Pelosi's explanation about her participation in the interrogation briefings? She said that she was briefed that water boarding "might" be used, not that it "would" be used. A difference without meaning?

This sounds like: "That depends on what the term is, is." She needs to get beat over the head with it because she's one of the worst partisan hacks acting like one of the worst partisan hacks. When she gets caught being a partisan hack there should be no quarter.

Oh, and good morning and aloha. Time for a cup of Kona.

908 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:10:39am

re: #897 realwest

Actually, the only "principle" that elite LEFTY'S live by is: "I've got mine, screw you."

Ain't dat the troof!

909 Lincolntf  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:10:42am

re: #893 pingjockey

I don't even know if they were afraid that it would come out. We've all seen the reports on what exactly waterboarding is. It's not torture. Had it been described accurately from the start, I doubt a single rational person would conclude that it was excessive in time of war. Remember, 12 minute limit per 24 hours, and it doesn't cause pain, it causes reflex actions that are unpleasant in the extreme, but there is really no danger to the terrorist.
The Dems only decided to brand it "torture" when they needed to stoke the fires of Bush derangement syndrome that propelled them into office.

910 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:11:14am

So the nazis shaking hands is real, but the rally behind them isn't? By all means we need to say that.

911 opnion  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:11:18am

re: #901 Athos

Politics and power are all that count for the Speaker....not the country. That is why she is willing to lie and then wiggle her statements around to hide the fact that her initial response was a flat out lie.

Good summation.

912 Dianna  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:11:40am

Going shopping.

See you!

913 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:11:48am
914 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:12:08am

re: #875 jcm

Newt pwns Goracle.



Pwned? I think "Bitchslapped" is more accurate.

915 kansas  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:12:36am

This "torture" shit is a great distraction from the pillaging of the country. Now they're gonna ram through some half assed healthcare plan? You would think that some actual thought might be put into that complex of an issue.

916 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:12:51am

re: #906 kansas NOPE! They have to have some Republicans on any investigative panel or even the MSM won't give them a pass.
And who are they gonna call as witnesses? Can't take a chance on one of them telling the truth under oath!

917 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:13:02am

re: #906 kansas

We should care because they work for us. While they are up there grandstanding and playing camera they aren't dealing with more pressing issues like national security and how to help the economy without taking it over and going socialist. It shows where their priorities are.

918 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:13:25am

re: #900 Walter L. Newton

There is no doubt in my mind that Charles will address the picture, but I also agree with Killgore- the back ground is irrelevant. It doesn't change the association of pro-koln and VB, nor does it change the neo-nazi roots of pro-koln.

919 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:14:24am

re: #913 Sharmuta

In german, but lots of pictures of pro-koln with VB

Sharm.

I am not questioning the affiliation, but I am say, if the photo is faked, then it would be best to address the mistake, and be done with it.

You keep trying to "prove" something to me, and I don't need the proof, since I am not even talking about that subject. I am talking about a possibly faked photo, which was posted here, and perhaps, if it was an honest mistake, then perhaps, it needs to be addressed.

920 opnion  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:14:31am

re: #906 kansas

re: #907 BigPapa

This could be the law of unintended consequences. I doubt that the majority of Americans want the people that kept us safe pilloried. The Dems could get some real blowback, if they move forward.

921 rightymouse  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:14:48am

re: #902 Killgore Trout

Sort of. The original pic doesn't change anything. If Charles posted the pic as proof that they attended an antifa rally then it would be different. I don't the the background as essential to the story.


I may be off base here, but I don't think that using photo-shopped pics without noting that they are photo-shopped is wise. The spin you're using is unnerving.

922 Athos  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:15:16am

re: #914 VegasRick

Pwned? I think "Bitchslapped" is more accurate.

A 'bitchslap' is what would have happened if Lord Monckton was permitted to speak. With Gingrich, it only counts as a 'pwned' because Gingrich is easy to discredit with the el cubos.

923 rightymouse  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:15:29am

re: #910 pingjockey

So the nazis shaking hands is real, but the rally behind them isn't? By all means we need to say that.


Absolutely!

924 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:15:38am

re: #918 Sharmuta True, but if we(Charles) doesn't make the point about the pic, Spenser/Pam will deflect attention from their willing support of neonazi thugs to "See how evil Chuck is".

925 opnion  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:15:38am

re: #916 realwest

NOPE! They have to have some Republicans on any investigative panel or even the MSM won't give them a pass.
And who are they gonna call as witnesses? Can't take a chance on one of them telling the truth under oath!

Pelosi should be under oath herself.

926 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:16:20am

re: #916 realwest

NOPE! They have to have some Republicans on any investigative panel or even the MSM won't give them a pass.
And who are they gonna call as witnesses? Can't take a chance on one of them telling the truth under oath!

RW, you have mail.

927 Sharmuta  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:16:59am

re: #919 Walter L. Newton

I have no doubt that Charles will address it. My guess is it was an honest mistake, because Charles has, for years, worked at being accurate, and has never shied away from retracting incorrect stories, or adding updates to clarify or elaborate.

928 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:17:09am

Good morning all...I hope everyone here is swine free.

929 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:17:50am

re: #925 opnion
She should be under her desk cowering in fear from the righteous wrath of a pissed off electorate..

930 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:18:16am

re: #915 kansas There was a great deal of thought put into it! Don't you remember Hillary's National Healthcare? They put a lot of thought into that turkey, and the budgeted amount for it constitutes ONE-HALF of the 1+1/2 Trilion Dollar budget DEFICIT.*
*that is most certainly going to be MUCH WORSE than 1+1/2 Trillion dollars, as tax receipts continue to fall due to the incredible numbers of folks who are becoming or have become unemployed.
And, of course, AFAIK, Geithner STILL won't allow banks to repay any of that TARP money.
Gee, I wonder why?

931 kansas  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:18:17am

re: #916 realwest

NOPE! They have to have some Republicans on any investigative panel or even the MSM won't give them a pass.
And who are they gonna call as witnesses? Can't take a chance on one of them telling the truth under oath!

Well, sure they'll have Republicans. For all the good it will do.
Did you hear Hillary Clinton being questioned about what she thought about Dick Cheney's saying that the release of the memos had not included the results? Her answer was that she didn't listen to Dick Cheney. When the question was followed up, the gentleman's time conveniently expired.

That's they way these work when Democrats are in charge.

932 jwb7605  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:18:27am

re: #919 Walter L. Newton

Sharm.

I am not questioning the affiliation, but I am say, if the photo is faked, then it would be best to address the mistake, and be done with it.

You keep trying to "prove" something to me, and I don't need the proof, since I am not even talking about that subject. I am talking about a possibly faked photo, which was posted here, and perhaps, if it was an honest mistake, then perhaps, it needs to be addressed.

Upding.
An altered photo is an altered photo. On the off chance I notice that without being tipped off, I then start to look for flaws and lies in the text, also. Any initial support for the subject or cause immediately gets lessened.

933 kansas  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:18:42am

re: #917 BigPapa

We should care because they work for us. While they are up there grandstanding and playing camera they aren't dealing with more pressing issues like national security and how to help the economy without taking it over and going socialist. It shows where their priorities are.

I didn't say WE shouldn't care. I said why should SHE care?

934 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:18:42am

re: #921 rightymouse

I may be off base here, but I don't think that using photo-shopped pics without noting that they are photo-shopped is wise. The spin you're using is unnerving.


You're misinterpreting me. It was definitely a mistake to use an altered pic. Charles will address it. It would have been best if we caught it first. Spencer is using it as a distraction from the essence of the story. There are dozens of unaltered pics that can be very easily found to prove the same point that Rouh and Dewinter are pals.

935 opnion  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:19:31am

re: #929 pingjockey

She should be under her desk cowering in fear from the righteous wrath of a pissed off electorate..

She is elected from San Francisco. Unfortunately she is pretty safe,

936 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:19:42am

re: #932 jwb7605

Upding.
An altered photo is an altered photo. On the off chance I notice that without being tipped off, I then start to look for flaws and lies in the text, also. Any initial support for the subject or cause immediately gets lessened.

Yes.

And that's the last of it for now from me, well see how this is handled from here.

937 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:19:54am

Well I'm pretty much done inflicting pain for the day. Told wife I'm bringing home dead meat to burn. She said she wasn't particularly interested, but then called back to say hey why don't throw some shrimp on the Barbi. Why not. Maybe I'll surprise her with some lobster also. She will yell at me for spending the money but she'll eat it.

938 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:20:30am

re: #935 opnion
Crap, that's right. I forgot. Damn.

939 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:20:49am

Accuracy is paramount to integrity. The taint of possible inaccuracy of all it may take to have a compounding and inordinate amount of discredit to be brought to bear.

Accuracy always matters.

940 kansas  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:21:14am

re: #920 opnion

re: #907 BigPapa

This could be the law of unintended consequences. I doubt that the majority of Americans want the people that kept us safe pilloried. The Dems could get some real blowback, if they move forward.

We can only hope for blowback on this idiocy.

941 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:21:43am

Back, what'd I miss?

942 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:22:07am

re: #937 Nevergiveup
Better to do it without orders and ask forgiveness later. Than ask for orders first!

943 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:22:38am

re: #941 laZardo

Back, what'd I miss?

Shh! everyone he's back!

Hi! laZardo!

*waves innocently*

/;-P

944 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:22:43am

re: #935 opnion

She is elected from San Francisco. Unfortunately she is pretty safe,

[Link: img21.imageshack.us...]

Hat-tip: A great Lizard from yesterday whose nic escapes my addled brain right now.

945 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:23:16am

re: #941 laZardo

Back, what'd I miss?

An orgy.

946 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:23:48am

re: #942 pingjockey

Better to do it without orders and ask forgiveness later. Than ask for orders first!

Yeah Since I am gonna get criticized no matter what I do. I see your married also?

947 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:23:49am

re: #943 jcm

Hmm, i guess I can head to bed then.

/ q:

re: #945 MandyManners

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

/dramatic zoom-out

948 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:23:54am

I wonder how fast Jenny McCarthy will be running out to get a swine flu vaccine?

949 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:24:04am

re: #933 kansas

I didn't say WE shouldn't care. I said why should SHE care?

Oh, my bad. She should care because (idealism). But she won't because her priorities are all screwed up. She should care because this could seriously blow back on her, but she won't because her perspectives are clouded by her new found power.

950 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:24:14am

re: #944 MandyManners
Wahahahaha! That is great!

951 rightside  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:24:44am

re: #944 MandyManners

[Link: img21.imageshack.us...]

Hat-tip: A great Lizard from yesterday whose nic escapes my addled brain right now.

That was me, Mandy

952 pingjockey  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:25:16am

re: #946 Nevergiveup
Oh yeah. But I first heard that from an old Cheif Petty Officer years ago.

953 rightymouse  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:25:29am

re: #934 Killgore Trout

You're misinterpreting me. It was definitely a mistake to use an altered pic. Charles will address it. It would have been best if we caught it first. Spencer is using it as a distraction from the essence of the story. There are dozens of unaltered pics that can be very easily found to prove the same point that Rouh and Dewinter are pals.


I don't care for what looked like a justification in your #902 post.

I have faith that Charles will address this.

954 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:25:39am

OK, so I don't have to go back on the thread and kill precious time...what fake photo are we talking about? What did I miss these last 12 hours?

955 rightside  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:25:42am

re: #937 Nevergiveup

All you have to say is, I bought it thinking of you.

956 VegasRick  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:26:25am

re: #951 rightside

That was me, Mandy

Wow, you're a dead ringer for pelousy!
/

957 FrogMarch  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:26:28am

We are in the very best of hands:

You’ll recall that, in a gimmick entirely emblematic of post-exceptional America, Hillary Clinton gave the Russians a (mistranslated) “Reset” button. The button has certainly been “reset” — to September 10th, to a legalistic rearview mirror approach to the “War on Terror,” in which investigating Bush officials will consume far more time and effort than de-nuking Iran. The secretary of Homeland Security’s ludicrous re-classification of terrorism as “man-caused disaster,” and her boneheaded statement that the September 11th bombers had entered America from Canada (which would presumably make 9/11 a “Canadian man-caused disaster”) exemplifies the administration’s cheery indifference to all that Bush-era downer stuff.

-Mark Steyn

958 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:26:31am

Huh. 58% Oppose Further Investigation of U.S. Torture Allegations

President Obama and Senate Democratic leaders are opposed to more investigations of how the Bush administration treated terrorism suspects, and 58% of U.S. voters agree with them. A number of congressional Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, are pushing for a wider probe.

Just 28% think the Obama administration should do further investigating of how suspected terrorists were questioned during the Bush years, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Thirteen percent (13%) are not sure.

While the Bush administration’s handling of terrorism suspects has been a highly charged political issue,

Democrats are evenly divided over whether further investigation is necessary. Seventy-seven percent (77%) of Republicans and 62% of voters not affiliated with either major party are against more investigating.

Fifty-eight percent (58%) of liberals believe more investigating is called for, but 78% of conservatives disagree

[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

959 jorline  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:26:35am

re: #945 MandyManners

An orgy.

I'm perfectly harmless...can I watch?

960 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:27:14am

re: #941 laZardo

Back, what'd I miss?

0bama is helping eliminate threats to America, like those pesky defendant's rights.

961 funky chicken  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:28:26am

re: #638 taxfreekiller

who are the people getting sick in the U.S. where have the been, what have they been doing, the information is not being reported

the deal with the NYC school?

I wonder when their spring break was?

Things could get interesting in the SW USA. I know spring break for public schools in Las Vegas, NV was Apr 6-10. I'm sure lots of kids went to Mexico to visit family.

962 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:29:09am

re: #958 realwest

Huh. 58% Oppose Further Investigation of U.S. Torture Allegations

[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

Maybe 0bama should just make the Guantanamo terrorists American citizens. That way, they'll still be defendants, but at least they won't have any right to a lawyer.

963 MandyManners  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:29:29am

re: #951 rightside

That was me, Mandy

I'll put your nic in the link in my favorites.

964 yma o hyd  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:30:17am

Just reading the comments on the Spencer/Neo-Nazi conference thread.

Gotta say I'm proud to be in your company, Lizards!

And I'm extremely grateful for Charles to point these connections out.
Its chilling to see how those neofascists use a once valid attitude, that of being anti-jihad, to peddle their filth, dressed up in a nice new shiny cloth.

Whats really galling is that the LLL will have field days tarring any conservative with that nazi brush.

I'm not done with being a very angry Lizard today!

965 jwb7605  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:30:33am

I see faith in Charles was justified.

966 realwest  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:30:54am

re: #926 jorline
Hi jorline - responded to - for now!

967 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:31:03am

re: #960 gmsc

Okay...I'm not sure where the heck this is supposed to head. But maybe that's the idea. As it were.

968 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:31:03am

18:58 Clinton: Iran blaming U.S. for recent Iraq violence is `disappointing` (Reuters)

I think the proper term is "Bullshit" Madam Secretary? It's something you should be familiar with.

969 jcm  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:31:37am

The Norks vote on the size of The Ones balls.

US blasts NKorea for reactivating nuclear program

The United States on Saturday blasted North Korea's decision to reactivate its nuclear program and called for the reclusive nation to return to international denuclearization talks.

"We will not accept North Korea as a nuclear-weapons state," said Megan Mattson, a State Department spokeswoman.

The North's announcement that it had started reprocessing spent fuel rods to make weapons-grade plutonium came just hours after the United Nations slapped sanctions on three North Korean firms accused of backing missile development.

On April 14, the North said it would quit six-nation nuclear disarmament talks and restart its atomic weapons program after the UN Security Council issued a statement condemning the Pyongyang's controversial April 5 rocket launch.

Pyongyang says it put a satellite into orbit but the United States and its allies say the launch was a disguised long-range ballistic missile test.

"We will not accept North Korea as a nuclear-weapons state," words mean nothing unless actions are going to back them up. The Norks are banking on words, words, and more words. So is Iran.

970 Nevergiveup  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:32:21am

re: #965 jwb7605

I see faith in Charles was justified.

The way I hear it, Charles got into Faith soon after he moved into his new digs.

971 opnion  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:33:12am

re: #940 kansas

We can only hope for blowback on this idiocy.

I think that the Dems are starting to see the danger. The question is, can they control themselves & pull back. I think that it is a jump ball.

972 rightymouse  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:34:53am

re: #960 gmsc

0bama is helping eliminate threats to America, like those pesky defendant's rights.

I don't understand why Obama is doing this.

973 gmsc  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:38:36am

re: #972 rightymouse

I don't understand why Obama is doing this.

Well, in his liberal fantasy land, we probably can't be bothered with pesky things like innocent until proven guilty.

974 Athos  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:39:47am

re: #972 rightymouse

I don't understand why Obama is doing this.

The more rights a government restricts, the more power a government has. It also provides the government the ability to act with fewer checks and balances / controls on its actions.

975 laZardo  Sat, Apr 25, 2009 9:44:35am

re: #973 gmsc

And then blame Bush for doing the same thing.

Cheeky bastards.


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