Friday Afternoon Open
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Here’s an open thread for a very warm Friday afternoon, as we skip merrily down a tree-lined avenue without a care in the world…
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MrSilverDragon Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:42:42pm |
I love the smell of a fresh thread in the afternoon. It smells like... victory... or something.
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CyanSnowHawk Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:43:11pm |
The Palantirs have been created in an all software version.
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Coracle Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:43:41pm |
re: #1 MrSilverDragon
I love the smell of a fresh thread in the afternoon. It smells like... victory... or something.
That's my new cologne. Glad you like it.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:44:41pm |
re: #1 MrSilverDragon
I love the smell of a fresh thread in the afternoon. It smells like... victory... or something.
On a Friday it smells like the weekend.
/15 minutes and counting...tick...tick...tick...tick...tick...
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jcm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:45:10pm |
ELF Claims Responsibility For Radio Tower Sabotage
An environmental extremist group has claimed responsibility for toppling two towers near Snohomish owned by a sports radio station.The Earth Liberation Front group took responsibility for the act on its Web site Friday.
The towers were brought down with a trackhoe.
Andrew Skotdal, president and manager of KRKO in Everett, said a banner emblazoned with the word ELF was left at the scene.
The group claimed responsibility in the firebombing of a University of Washington building in 2006, and the FBI said it estimates that ELF has committed more than 600 criminal acts in the U.S. since 1996, resulting in damages in excess of $43 million.
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Skotdal said the station was recently granted permits to build the two 199-foot towers in the Snohomish River Valley. Some in the community are upset about the project that has been a source of court battles and controversy for several years."It goes to show you, people really just did not want this to happen in this valley. It's a beautiful area and to have a farm of towers go up, it really went against everything else that was natural around here," said Snohomish resident Elizabeth Grant.
Skotdal said he's not convinced that ELF is responsible for the vandalism..
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:45:23pm |
Labor Day weekend is almost here! Yeah! Oh wait. I have to work tomorrow. Bummer.
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cronus Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:47:12pm |
Is this what economists mean when they say the recession is over?
White House: We’re Creating an Economic Environment for Lessening Job Loss
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MAV Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:47:13pm |
Where in the world is Obama ??
Drudge says Bidens in charge...
WTF ?
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Creeping Eruption Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:48:18pm |
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:48:40pm |
re: #8 MAV
Where in the world is Obama ??
Drudge says Bidens in charge...
WTF ?
Uh ... Obama is on vacation.
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right_wing2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:48:48pm |
Dilbert's PHB is the 'Pointy Haired Boss'
Obama's PHB is the 'Plug-Haired Biden'
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:50:04pm |
re: #12 pat
Off to Ala Moana
No way..To go shopping at the Mall or surfing?
/I think I hate Pat...*wink*
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:50:47pm |
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jcm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:51:04pm |
re: #9 Creeping Eruption
Did the backhoe run on biofuel? Eco-terrorists!/
Trackhoe just isn't ELF style, using gallons of petrochemicals to start a fire? Now that's another thing.
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Spenser (with an S) Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:51:25pm |
So Ringo's link above confirms that men become stoopid when talking to a beautiful woman. That is now my excuse to my wife...
"I don't know why I do these stupid things, honey.. You're just so darn beautiful I can't concentrate!"
This also ties in with the study that men become more , uh... fruitful when with a beautiful woman. We had twins accidentally and I blamed my part in the matter on her beauty :)
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:51:42pm |
re: #7 cronus
Is this what economists mean when they say the recession is over?
White House: We’re Creating an Economic Environment for Lessening Job Loss
The Vice President made a point of emphasizing that “less bad is not good.
I would like to add that less filling is not taste great.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:51:49pm |
tick...tick...tick...tick...tick..tick..tick..BRRRIIINGGG!!!
IT's THE WEEKEND!!! See you lizards later and enjoy the long one.
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MacDuff Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:52:08pm |
re: #5 jcm
"It goes to show you, people really just did not want this to happen in this valley. It's a beautiful area and to have a farm of towers go up, it really went against everything else that was natural around here," said Snohomish resident Elizabeth Grant.
Snohomish Luddites.
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Coracle Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:52:30pm |
re: #16 Spenser (with an S)
So Ringo's link above confirms that men become stoopid when talking to a beautiful woman. That is now my excuse to my wife...
"I don't know why I do these stupid things, honey.. You're just so darn beautiful I can't concentrate!"
(( files this information for use at home ))
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Spenser (with an S) Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:52:37pm |
re: #14 KenJen
Still?
Again. His stats rise each day he is not heard from. I'm kind of glad he's back soon.
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Truth Stick Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:53:18pm |
I just don't but that ELF would do that, he was always was to busy focusing on eating the family cat.
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debutaunt Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:53:21pm |
re: #20 Coracle
(( files this information for use at home ))
Good decision. Foreplay really is an ongoing process.
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jcm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:54:03pm |
Surreptitious in Seattle: There’s a New Starbucks in Town, But You Wouldn’t Know It
In late July, Starbucks opened 15th Ave Coffee & Tea in Seattle’s trendy Capitol Hill neighborhood. While you won’t see a Starbucks sign out front or Starbucks cups inside, 15th Ave Coffee & Tea is Starbucks’ baby. So why, asks Adaptive Path’s Peter Merholz in his blog, would Starbucks do such a thing?
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kcladderman Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:54:39pm |
re: #14 KenJen
Maybe we can talk him into taking the next 3 1/2 years off.
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:54:50pm |
re: #21 Spenser (with an S)
Again. His stats rise each day he is not heard from. I'm kind of glad he's back soon.
Where is he this time? Is this a paid vacation?
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:54:56pm |
re: #23 debutaunt
Good decision. Foreplay really is an ongoing process.
Redneck foreplay: "Get in the truck, bitch."
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Creeping Eruption Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:55:02pm |
re: #16 Spenser (with an S)
So Ringo's link above confirms that men become stoopid when talking to a beautiful woman. That is now my excuse to my wife...
"I don't know why I do these stupid things, honey.. You're just so darn beautiful I can't concentrate!"
This also ties in with the study that men become more , uh... fruitful when with a beautiful woman. We had twins accidentally and I blamed my part in the matter on her beauty :)
Or as BB King says: "Honey . . .you know it doesn't count when you're high . ."
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mikalm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:58:39pm |
re: #28 Cannadian Club Akbar
Redneck foreplay: "Get in the truck, bitch."
Italian foreplay: "Honey, I'm-a home!"
/1/2 Italian-American, so I'm allowed to make this joke
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jcm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 12:59:20pm |
Montana officer resigns over Facebook comments
A Montana police officer who wrote on his Facebook page that there should be a law allowing police to take people to jail for being "stupid" has resigned.
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:00:05pm |
re: #25 kcladderman
Maybe we can talk him into taking the next 3 1/2 years off.
I bet he is filming his "during-school-special".
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right_wing2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:00:32pm |
re: #33 jcm
I agree with the officer, except we wouldn't have many customers left.
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alegrias Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:00:35pm |
It's odd that President Obama won't use some poorly run public school surrounded by barbed-wired in Washington, DC for his speech to students next week.
Who needs to hear inspirational speeches about education more than those children at the bottom of our country's school statistics?
Certainly not the children of wealthy Arlington, VA where Pres. Obama will go instead.
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mikalm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:00:40pm |
re: #33 jcm
Man, if a law like that existed, they'd have to put a revolving door at the local lockup for Yours Truly! :-)
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midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:01:32pm |
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lawhawk Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:01:54pm |
re: #14 KenJen
No. New vacation. Which isn't really a vacation because he's still in contact with the WH and gets the daily briefings and all the rest (or so I hope).
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kcladderman Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:02:12pm |
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:02:17pm |
re: #33 jcm
There are times and places I wish there were such a law. Too much stupid all over the fricking place these days. It's enough to make one scream.
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MAV Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:02:19pm |
re: #10 Charles
I thought he was back...
Obama Returns From Vacation Facing Tough Health Overhaul Odds, But Has Some Strengths
Well anyone who works as hard as this guy deserves weekly vacations...
SPITS
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jcm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:02:30pm |
re: #35 right_wing2
I agree with the officer, except we wouldn't have many customers left.
I'm reminded of a George Carlin bit (IIRC), every driver gets a suction dart gun, when some does something dumb, they dart the offending car. Anytime a officer sees a car with 5 darts, he pulls 'em over a give 'em a ticket for being stupid.
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kcladderman Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:03:14pm |
re: #39 lawhawk
No. New vacation. Which isn't really a vacation because he's still in contact with the WH and gets the daily briefings and all the rest (or so I hope).
yes he has Verizon. Can you hear me now?
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:03:14pm |
re: #38 midwestgak
I knew a neighbor who went to jail for being stupid. DUI stupid.
Which reminds me: Lizards dont let Lizards drink and drive! Everyone stay safe and have a great long weekend.
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right_wing2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:03:49pm |
re: #36 alegrias
I'm sure it's related to the reason he & most members of the administration don't send their kids to the DC public schools.
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:04:18pm |
Bill Simmons from ESPN has a great 2 part posting up.. Him and his buddies went to Vegas to do their Fantasy football draft...
Great Vegas stories...
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:04:50pm |
re: #47 HoosierHoops
Bill Simmons from ESPN has a great 2 part posting up.. Him and his buddies went to Vegas to do their Fantasy football draft...
Great Vegas stories...
Link? whoops
[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]
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kcladderman Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:05:13pm |
re: #46 right_wing2
I'm sure it's related to the reason he & most members of the administration don't send their kids to the DC public schools.
Remember the SNL skit about Amy Carter attending public school?
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:05:15pm |
Youz guyz need to admitt you have a problem...
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
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mikalm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:05:25pm |
re: #43 jcm
Carlin was an immensely witty and insightful man...during his prime in the 70s and 80s. Unfortunately, he became a bitter, mean-spirited and crashingly unfunny misanthrope in his last years.
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:05:29pm |
[Link: blogs.orlandosentinel.com...] Not all Florida republicans are steamed over obamas school speech
While I respect a parents’ individual rights, I would offer that this event should be used as an educational opportunity and learning tool to cultivate discussion among parents and their children. Civic and public discussion should be a priority for all schools. It is important that we instill in our children a respect for the office of the President and whoever occupies that honorable position.
Rather than excluding children from this event, I would strongly encourage parents and students to participate and be a part of the dialogue; using this opportunity to explain their family values to their children and encourage them to discuss what is occurring and why. Parents may choose to attend school with their children, experience this event together and to participate in their child’s education.
There's hope, slim as it might be, for the GOP in national politics.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:05:45pm |
re: #43 jcm
I'm reminded of a George Carlin bit (IIRC), every driver gets a suction dart gun, when some does something dumb, they dart the offending car. Anytime a officer sees a car with 5 darts, he pulls 'em over a give 'em a ticket for being stupid.
Heh. I just wish I had that last night. Two jackasses were racing down I-55 and went round me to the right (I was in the middle lane after passing a car), nearly hitting my car. I swear they had to be going at least 100mph (I was going 75mph at the time in a 65mph zone).
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jcm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:06:11pm |
re: #39 lawhawk
No. New vacation. Which isn't really a vacation because he's still in contact with the WH and gets the daily briefings and all the rest (or so I hope).
Which is why I never get excited over POTUS vacations, he's got every thing he needs. Folks inside the Beltway, tend to be Beltway centric, if it's not there, it's not happening.
Remember the media's obsession with GWB's vacations? I think they were pissed he drug the asses to the middle of nowhere Texas. Now Martha's Vineyard? That's just fine when they're on an expense account.
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jcm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:07:28pm |
re: #50 Cannadian Club Akbar
Youz guyz need to admitt you have a problem...
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
Hi, I'm JCM...
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Creeping Eruption Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:08:16pm |
re: #54 Honorary Yooper
Heh. I just wish I had that last night. Two jackasses were racing down I-55 and went round me to the right (I was in the middle lane after passing a car), nearly hitting my car. I swear they had to be going at least 100mph (I was going 75mph at the time in a 65mph zone).
Making a left turn into my driveway with turn signal on. Teenage driver that has been tailgating me for a few blocks passes on the left side and honks at me after she almost hit me.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:08:39pm |
re: #52 mikalm
Carlin was an immensely witty and insightful man...during his prime in the 70s and 80s. Unfortunately, he became a bitter, mean-spirited and crashingly unfunny misanthrope in his last years.
Quite often when I drive I think of one of his jokes about how anyone who drives slower than you is an idiot, and anyone who drives faster is a maniac.
It's a wonder we get anywhere with all those idiots and maniacs out there.
Like those idiots this morning who only wanted to go the speed limit in the left lane when there were no cops around. And the maniacs who must have been going at relativistic speeds and used Lorentz contraction to squeeze into gaps in the traffic.
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jcm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:08:55pm |
re: #54 Honorary Yooper
Heh. I just wish I had that last night. Two jackasses were racing down I-55 and went round me to the right (I was in the middle lane after passing a car), nearly hitting my car. I swear they had to be going at least 100mph (I was going 75mph at the time in a 65mph zone).
I tagged a semi the other morning, he couldn't stay in his lane, and would swerve back and have trouble controlling it. I called it in and stayed with it till troopers got him. I'm thinking sleepy by the way he was driving.
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debutaunt Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:10:07pm |
re: #53 Diego
[Link: blogs.orlandosentinel.com...] Not all Florida republicans are steamed over obamas school speech
Your broad brush did tickle a little.
There's hope, slim as it might be, for the GOP in national politics.
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Truth Stick Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:11:10pm |
re: #58 Creeping Eruption
Making a left turn into my driveway with turn signal on. Teenage driver that has been tailgating me for a few blocks passes on the left side and honks at me after she almost hit me.
I had a new driver, actually hit me doing exactly what you describe. Afterwards, I asked what exactly did you think the break lights and turn signal were for?
answer: Just a blank stare
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right_wing2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:11:26pm |
re: #60 jcm
I reported a semi doing 90 in a 70 zone by calling the 'How's my driving' number on the back of his trailer. The only other times I've called one of those numbers was to compliment a driver, and it really seemed to surprise the people taking the call.
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arethusa Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:11:33pm |
re: #57 buzzsawmonkey
Everybody goes to Martha's Vineyard. Nobody ever goes to Martha's Tomato Patch, Martha's Cornfield, or to Martha's Amusement Park.
But those are all along Route 66 in dreaded Middle America and therefore not hip enough to vacation at.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:11:39pm |
Jake Tapper linked to today's Van Jones post at ABC News:
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]
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Creeping Eruption Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:12:05pm |
re: #63 Truth Stick
I had a new driver, actually hit me doing exactly what you describe. Afterwards, I asked what exactly did you think the break lights and turn signal were for?
answer: Just a blank stare
You are a better person than I am. I would have been pummeling them as I asked the questions.
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:12:26pm |
re: #62 debutaunt
Sorry for the tickle, but the evidence of The Stupid (and insane) in national GOP politics is VERY strong. They seem to be embracing the crazy willingly and with forethought, which isn't in any way good for the country.
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jcm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:12:48pm |
re: #64 right_wing2
I reported a semi doing 90 in a 70 zone by calling the 'How's my driving' number on the back of his trailer. The only other times I've called one of those numbers was to compliment a driver, and it really seemed to surprise the people taking the call.
I managed a small fleet of vehicles for awhile, it was about 40/60 compliments to complaints which surprised me.
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debutaunt Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:12:49pm |
re: #62 debutaunt
My message disappeared, for some reason.
I just wanted to say that your broad brush tickled a little.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:12:59pm |
re: #66 Charles
Jake Tapper linked to today's Van Jones post at ABC News:
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]
Wait, am I still an asshole?
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CommonCents Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:13:22pm |
re: #1 MrSilverDragon
I love the smell of a fresh thread in the afternoon. It smells like... victory... or something.
Someday this threads going to end.
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lawhawk Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:14:04pm |
re: #68 Diego
Sorry for the tickle, but the evidence of The Stupid (and insane) in national
GOPpolitics is VERY strong. They seem to be embracing the crazy willingly and with forethought, which isn't in any way good for the country.
Fixed that for you. The stupid is strong in all national politics. Right now, the pendulum is swinging into the right crazy box, but it was hard left only a short time back, and many of those crazies are now the same folks setting national policies.
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debutaunt Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:14:09pm |
re: #68 Diego
Sorry for the tickle, but the evidence of The Stupid (and insane) in national GOP politics is VERY strong. They seem to be embracing the crazy willingly and with forethought, which isn't in any way good for the country.
I don't belong to any political party. They pretty much seem equally stupid.
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mikalm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:15:18pm |
re: #66 Charles
Jake Tapper linked to today's Van Jones post at ABC News:
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]
Good piece. And it just bolsters your point: the Troofer-or-not issue is a distraction from the real, verifiable looniness and extremism that he stands for.
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CommonCents Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:17:08pm |
re: #64 right_wing2
I reported a semi doing 90 in a 70 zone by calling the 'How's my driving' number on the back of his trailer. The only other times I've called one of those numbers was to compliment a driver, and it really seemed to surprise the people taking the call.
Now that I wouldn't report. It's not often you can get a semi to draft behind going that fast.
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:17:18pm |
re: #75 debutaunt
I don't belong to any political party. They pretty much seem equally stupid.
Um, how did my brush tickle you? I wasn't saying you were/are a member of the GOP, but as per the tickle..
Even then, my reply only apologized for tickling you :¬)
There is without a doubt a degree of stupid in all parties, but I've never seen mainline politicians gravitate to it like the GOP is this year.
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:17:21pm |
re: #57 buzzsawmonkey
Everybody goes to Martha's Vineyard. Nobody ever goes to Martha's Tomato Patch, Martha's Cornfield, or to Martha's Amusement Park.
Mojo Nixon and Skid Roper had a song about Stuffin' Martha's Muffin. Doesn't that count?
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debutaunt Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:17:49pm |
re: #76 buzzsawmonkey
Ojoe's been pushing the "Modern Whig Party." I think the "Stupid American Party" would draw a lot more members.
It's just heartbreaking to see what is happening.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:17:58pm |
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Land Shark Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:18:20pm |
re: #54 Honorary Yooper
Heh. I just wish I had that last night. Two jackasses were racing down I-55 and went round me to the right (I was in the middle lane after passing a car), nearly hitting my car. I swear they had to be going at least 100mph (I was going 75mph at the time in a 65mph zone).
I had a similar thing happen to me a couple of years ago on I-95. They had to be doing well over a 100 mph judging by how fast they blew by me. But some time and distance later there was a big traffic slowdown and I when I crawled by I had the incredible satisfaction of seeing the two assholes pulled over by the side of the road by several Florida State Troopers they had apparently blown by. It was almost orgasmic, especially when I saw the cops putting the cuffs on them. Gives me a tingle down my leg every time I think about it. :-)
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:19:01pm |
re: #76 buzzsawmonkey
Ojoe's been pushing the "Modern Whig Party." I think the "Stupid American Party" would draw a lot more members.
Advert: Are YOU a SAP? Well, we have THE party for you!
:D
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debutaunt Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:19:48pm |
re: #79 Diego
Um, how did my brush tickle you? I wasn't saying you were/are a member of the GOP, but as per the tickle..
Even then, my reply only apologized for tickling you :¬)
There is without a doubt a degree of stupid in all parties, but I've never seen mainline politicians gravitate to it like the GOP is this year.
It didn't tickle me. I was just pointing out the broad brush. I don't see much intelligence from any political party.
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mikalm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:19:56pm |
re: #80 karmic_inquisitor
Mojo Nixon and Skid Roper had a song about Stuffin' Martha's Muffin. Doesn't that count?
Good ol' Mojo -- a bit of a moonbat, but he wrote some hilarious songs. One of my favorites was, "Debbie Gibson is Pregnant with My Two-Headed Love Child."
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Truth Stick Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:20:07pm |
re: #67 Creeping Eruption
You are a better person than I am. I would have been pummeling them as I asked the questions.
My neighbor is a cop, and he came right out of his house when he heard the "bang", so I had bite my tongue, although I had plenty of questions for him. The poor kid was in tears, because the little Honda CRX he was driving was no match for my 3/4 ton Chevy P/U.
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Coracle Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:20:22pm |
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CyanSnowHawk Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:20:23pm |
re: #72 Cannadian Club Akbar
Wait, am I still an asshole?
Yes, but Van Jones is sorry about that.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:20:47pm |
re: #80 karmic_inquisitor
Mojo Nixon and Skid Roper had a song about Stuffin' Martha's Muffin. Doesn't that count?
This is a song about an ex band member's mom...
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CommonCents Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:20:53pm |
re: #50 Cannadian Club Akbar
Youz guyz need to admitt you have a problem...
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
It opened in July and for $14,000 offers a 45-day program intended to help people wean themselves from pathological computer use
I'd be willing to lock people in my basement for 45 days for $14,000. I may have just found my retirement plan.
/
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:21:24pm |
re: #86 debutaunt
Apologies then. The 'Your broad brush did tickle a little' threw me.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:21:52pm |
Finished what I was working on, so I can go home early.
See you later, lizards.
Now I just hope the traffic isn't too bad...
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Coracle Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:22:14pm |
re: #94 Diego
Apologies then. The 'Your broad brush did tickle a little' threw me.
In bed.
Couldn't be helped.
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tradewind Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:22:33pm |
re: #77 mikalm
I said this in a post yesterday... no need to dwell on the Truther thing when there's so much other low hanging fruit to pick from the Jones branch.
I can't seem to find it now, but I could swear I saw a post asserting that the Free Mumia movement was somehow ' controversial '? What could there possibly be to disagree about, other than maybe his sentence...
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debutaunt Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:23:01pm |
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:23:22pm |
Darn it. I thought I was going to get to leave early since I'm working tommorrow. My boss just snuck out the door. He has some nerve!
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right_wing2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:23:40pm |
re: #80 karmic_inquisitor
That sounds kind of pornographic
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Coracle Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:24:21pm |
re: #101 KenJen
Darn it. I thought I was going to get to leave early since I'm working tommorrow. My boss just snuck out the door. He has some nerve!
Boss gone? Cat away? It's quittin' time!
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debutaunt Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:24:26pm |
re: #103 buzzsawmonkey
Stupid American Party. We're all SAPs! Vote for a SAP!
Nobody will join my SAP party - you drawing them all away!
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mikalm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:24:38pm |
re: #93 buzzsawmonkey
The Stupid American Party would draw from the great, squashy, cornfed middle of the political spectrum.
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tradewind Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:25:24pm |
Charles, you'll find this one hard to take...
:)
[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]
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right_wing2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:25:33pm |
re: #83 Land Shark
I was driving on 35 north out of Dallas, and a guy blew past me in a Taurus. About 10 minutes later, I passed him, pulled over by a TX Highway Patrol car. About 15 minutes after that, he blew past me again. I kept hoping I'd see him pulled over by a different officer.
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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:25:39pm |
How about the blind still being able to 'see'? That somehow there is processing for object avoidance even if the visual areas that process the vision are destroyed is fascinating to me.
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Land Shark Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:26:12pm |
re: #87 mikalm
Love Mojo Nixon. However, my favorite album by him was "Otis". My two favorite songs by him are there, "Destroy All Lawyers" and "Don Henley Must Die."
Opps, I forgot another favorite by Mojo from Bo-Dacious, "Elvis Is Everywhere." Great fun.
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1SG(ret) Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:26:17pm |
Speaking of stupid:
I've spent all day trying to get rid of a vicious spy ware program. If anyone sees the (pc antispyware 2010) appear on their computers, prepare for a long day trying to get rid of it. Wish I knew much more about computer! Got it done, but more knowledge of such things would have helped. I really hate some people that just try to screw things up for others.
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tradewind Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:26:33pm |
re: #108 right_wing2
You might have ended up seeing him pulled over on the side of the road, laid out on a gurney...
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jcm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:26:35pm |
re: #89 Coracle
I have a map of the earth that's actual size. One Mile equals One Mile.
-Steven Wright
You'll know exactly the spot where you are lost.
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:29:35pm |
re: #107 tradewind
Charles, you'll find this one hard to take...
:)
[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]
Dumbass can hardly read.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:29:52pm |
Stupid is everywhere.
[Link: www.google.com...]
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mikalm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:30:42pm |
re: #111 Land Shark
Love Mojo Nixon. However, my favorite album by him was "Otis". My two favorite songs by him are there, "Destroy All Lawyers" and "Don Henley Must Die."
Opps, I forgot another favorite by Mojo from Bo-Dacious, "Elvis Is Everywhere." Great fun.
All good ones. I saw him play live in L.A. several times during the 1980s.
Didja know that one time at an Austin, TX gig, he did "Don Henley Must Die" and Don Henley himself leaped onstage and sang the chorus with him?
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CommonCents Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:31:16pm |
re: #101 KenJen
Darn it. I thought I was going to get to leave early since I'm working tommorrow. My boss just snuck out the door. He has some nerve!
So what's keeping you? Run!!!
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:31:23pm |
This just arrived, along with a few more hate mails:
I hate to admit this, Charles, but LGF is a great blog (and I have to
thank Andrew Sullivan for linking to it awhile back). Damn your conservative eyes!As a liberal I should be spittin' crazy mad over it, but instead I find the intelligent and witty comments a very enjoyable read. Can't say I agree with everything, but hey, that's life. I'll get over it.
By the way -- anyone who can toss up an old Brautigan poem is OK in my book. (And the music is welcome, too.) Keep up the good work!
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:31:34pm |
re: #103 buzzsawmonkey
Stupid American Party. We're all SAPs! Vote for a SAP!
Buzz..I have a funny story to tell you about Simmons in Vegas with one of his best friend who is Jewish...Wicked Funny...But it is late Friday afternoon here and I don't want to insult anyone...Jeez it's funny Buzz...Tell you later in the weekend..I'm still giggling
I hope you are well and healthy today
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right_wing2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:31:45pm |
According to my 'Judicial Watch' newsletter, the libs seem to have already forgotten the lessons of the mortgage crisis, and are calling for Fannie & Freddie to relax their lending standards again.
As of March, Fannie said it would stop guaranteeing mortgages on new condos where fewer than 70% of the units were sold. Barney Frank warned that a 70% threshold 'may be too onerous'.
Yet isn't it listening to Congress what got this whole mortgage crisis started in the first place?
Scroll down about 1/2 way for the story
[Link: www.judicialwatch.org...]
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:32:09pm |
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mikalm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:32:57pm |
re: #119 buzzsawmonkey
Openly flouting the cannons of modern society.
Thinks he's a big shot, of higher caliber than the rest of us...
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:33:25pm |
re: #122 HoosierHoops
Buzz..I have a funny story to tell you about Simmons in Vegas with one of his best friend who is Jewish...Wicked Funny...But it is late Friday afternoon here and I don't want to insult anyone...Jeez it's funny Buzz...Tell you later in the weekend..I'm still giggling
I hope you are well and healthy today
Your such a tease!
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Land Shark Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:33:37pm |
re: #118 mikalm
I heard about that. I heard Henley was pissed at first but then changed his "tune." Don Henley Must Die is a great tune to play loud.
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Born Again Republican Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:34:08pm |
Youtube Video>Ennio Marchetto
Talented people inspire me to skip merrily down a tree-lined avenue without a care in the world...
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CyanSnowHawk Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:35:06pm |
re: #121 Charles
This just arrived, along with a few more hate mails:
There's a nice little "I hate myself" email for a change of pace. You should sign him up.
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:36:00pm |
re: #117 Cannadian Club Akbar
Stupid is everywhere.
[Link: www.google.com...]
I can't wait until Halloween. My friend brings out his tater cannon. Great fun!
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arethusa Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:37:00pm |
re: #132 buzzsawmonkey
Wasn't it the STAG Party? Don't remember what the acronym was for, though.
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:37:06pm |
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CommonCents Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:37:16pm |
re: #124 KenJen
Stuck here til 6pm.
It's 6 o'clock somewhere! (not really because it's 36 after the hour and I don't know of anywhere that does timezones like that, but hey, you get the point).
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HelloDare Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:38:10pm |
Here’s an open thread for a very warm Friday afternoon, as we skip merrily down a tree-lined avenue without a care in the world...
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:38:22pm |
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right_wing2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:38:50pm |
re: #132 buzzsawmonkey
Would that be the 'Straight Talking American Government ' (STAG) party?
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:39:16pm |
re: #140 HelloDare
The website declined to show this webpage
HTTP 403
Most likely causes:
This website requires you to log in.
What you can try:
Go back to the previous page.
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:39:19pm |
re: #137 turn
You guys are a barrel of laughs I tell you.
And of the highest caliber I might add.
Happy Labor day weekend Lizards.
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arethusa Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:39:20pm |
re: #139 buzzsawmonkey
btw, Gracie Allen once "ran" for President on the Surprise Party ticket. I think she even got some votes in the actual election.
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:39:52pm |
re: #138 CommonCents
It's 6 o'clock somewhere! (not really because it's 36 after the hour and I don't know of anywhere that does timezones like that, but hey, you get the point).
We have beer in the breakroom fridge. I may just have one.
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:40:17pm |
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Desert Dog Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:40:38pm |
re: #146 KenJen
We have beer in the breakroom fridge. I may just have one.
Where do you work? We will be over in 15 minutes
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:40:51pm |
re: #126 buzzsawmonkey
I wish you'd do it now, Hoops--I'm not sure how much I'll be able to be here over the weekend. Your buildup alone sounds good.
If I don't see you over the holiday, have a great time! Well, heck--have a great time even if I do see you.
So Bill and his buddies are in Vegas doing their Fantasy football picks...After 2 days of gambling and drinking they go to some cool club comped by the Palms..
(you work for ESPN you get 50 dollar Limo rides also)
So they are doing the draft..Hung over and grumpy...One of the guys gets bored and puts p0rn on his laptop..Lighten the mood..
Bill calls his Jewish buddy over and goes..Jeez...On the Tabs you can pick out white girls, Black and Asian Women...Why is there never a tab for Jews?
Bill's buddy buries his head in his hands and yells out Why are we always overlooked?
It was pretty funny..Hope you aren't insulted
It was a funny story
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CommonCents Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:40:55pm |
re: #146 KenJen
We have beer in the breakroom fridge. I may just have one.
Oh yeah!! We used to but then we merged. New mgmt is too uptight.
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:41:21pm |
re: #141 KenJen
I'm mortarfied.
Careful, you might get hoist with one's own petard. Buzz is pretty clever.
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:41:38pm |
re: #148 Desert Dog
Where do you work? We will be over in 15 minutes
It's Miller Light. Still coming?
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Desert Dog Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:41:56pm |
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:42:23pm |
re: #144 DEZes
And of the highest caliber I might add.
Happy Labor day weekend Lizards.
Hey that was already used upthread, don't piss turn off he has a short fuse.
:.)
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:44:55pm |
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:45:22pm |
re: #155 turn
Hey that was already used upthread, don't piss turn off he has a short fuse.
:.)
You must be a real blast.
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:45:27pm |
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Desert Dog Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:45:38pm |
re: #159 buzzsawmonkey
I'm sure she exhibited Gracie under pressure.
Say you'll run for President, Gracie..."I'll run for President" And so a political party was born.
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right_wing2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:46:08pm |
I'm voting for Malcolm Peter Brian Telescope Adrian Umbrella Stand Jasper Wednesday (pops mouth twice) Stoatgobbler John Raw Vegetable (sound effect of horse whinnying) Arthur Norman Michael (blows squeaker) Featherstone Smith (blows whistle) Northgot Edwards Harris (fires pistol, then 'whoop') Mason (chuff-chuff-chuff-chuff) Frampton Jones Fruitbat Gilbert (sings) 'We'll keep a welcome in the' (three shots, stops singing) Williams If I Could Walk That Way Jenkin (squeaker) Tiger-drawers Pratt Thompson (sings) 'Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head' Darcy Carter (horn) Pussycat (sings) 'Don't Sleep In The Subway' Barton Mainwaring (hoot, 'whoop') Smith, of the Very Silly Party.
Why settle for only a little silly?
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:46:30pm |
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:47:50pm |
Piece in our thyme - Iran cleric: 'Time to export revolution'
A senior cleric urged Iran’s factions on Friday to end post-election infighting, suggesting they should focus on trying to “export the revolution” instead. Ayatollah Mohammad Emami Kashani’s comments seemed to be an attempt to calm tension inside Iran after its disputed election in June, which plunged the country into its deepest internal crisis since the 1979 revolution.But any reference to exporting Shiite Iran’s revolution may stir unease in nearby Gulf Arab states...[.]
“It is now the time to export the revolution … it is not the time to treat each other like this,” he said in a sermon broadcast live on state radio. “Such remarks cause damage to the Islamic society and prevent the export of the revolution.”
Kashani is seen as a moderate cleric who rarely makes politically controversial remarks.
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:48:09pm |
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HelloDare Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:48:31pm |
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:48:57pm |
re: #170 VioletTiger
How are you feeling?
Okay, just gonna rest for the next 3 days.
Thanks for asking.
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:49:24pm |
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CommonCents Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:49:25pm |
Whose triggering a pun thread? You C4 a good one, the scope of the pun is important. You can either cap it off like a blast or drop like a slug.
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:49:27pm |
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:49:36pm |
[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]
Sources: White House drafting health care bill
CNN has learned that the White House is quietly working to draft health care legislation after allowing Congress to work on its own for months.
Multiple sources close to the process tell CNN that while the plan is uncertain, they are preparing for the possibility they could deliver their own legislation to Capitol Hill sometime after the President Barack Obama's speech to a joint session of Congress Wednesday.
Will be interesting to see 1) if it's true and, 2) what it looks like
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HelloDare Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:49:44pm |
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:49:57pm |
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:50:14pm |
re: #169 buzzsawmonkey
The problem with a name like "Modern Whigs" is that it leaves itself open to jokes about its candidates, or its members, being "one hundred percent a merkin."
Whigs?
How about Hair Care for America?
/We would really need to expand the tent
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CommonCents Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:50:30pm |
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Lincolntf Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:50:35pm |
re: #167 DEZes
I thought KenJen started this pun thread, but now I can't find howitzer fault.
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:50:53pm |
re: #177 turn
How can you say that? Have you been rifling through my comments?
And a turn becomes a twist.
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:50:57pm |
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tradewind Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:51:47pm |
re: #176 CommonCents
Thank heavens for italics... otherwise, we never would have gotten teh sekrit puns .
:)
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:51:49pm |
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freetoken Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:52:11pm |
He he... the Onion has proven to be too good for some...
One giant slip in Bangladesh news
Two Bangladeshi newspapers have apologised after publishing an article taken from a satirical US website which claimed the Moon landings were faked.
The Daily Manab Zamin said US astronaut Neil Armstrong had shocked a news conference by saying he now knew it had been an "elaborate hoax".
Neither they nor the New Nation, which later picked up the story, realised the Onion was not a genuine news site.
Be careful with those Onion posts Charles... somebody might take you seriously!
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lawhawk Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:52:20pm |
re: #178 Diego
Interesting. So we'll have yet another version to try and wade through, all while Congress doesn't read any of the versions or attempts to get by on the Cliff notes version.
Top questions that have to be asked of Obama and Congress - how much is this costing in each year, and how is it being paid for. Moreover, if there are shortfalls (which with every other entitlement is an absolute given), where are the taxes coming from.
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:52:30pm |
re: #183 Lincolntf
I thought KenJen started this pun thread, but now I can't find howitzer fault.
Put a muzzel on it, she's drinking beer and might be loaded.
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:52:46pm |
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:53:26pm |
re: #183 Lincolntf
I thought KenJen started this pun thread, but now I can't find howitzer fault.
Musket always be someones fault?
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:54:11pm |
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debutaunt Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:54:27pm |
re: #177 turn
How can you say that? Have you been rifling through my comments?
Left turn, right turn - how am I supposed to keep track?
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Coracle Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:55:16pm |
re: #196 DEZes
Musket always be someones fault?
I agree. Where does Lincolntf come from to talk like that? I mean Uzi think he is?
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calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:55:32pm |
Here’s an open thread for a very warm Friday afternoon, as we skip merrily down a tree-lined avenue without a care in the world...
Little did they know...death awaited them all, with big pointy nasty teeth!
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:55:44pm |
The hate mail situation is getting stupid. I've received more than 100 abusive emails so far about the Van Jones Truther issue.
I'm starting to just IP block anyone who sends that kind of sick crap to me.
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:55:55pm |
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:56:02pm |
re: #193 turn
Put a muzzel on it, she's drinking beer and might be loaded.
Your projectileing a bit.
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calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:56:20pm |
re: #200 Coracle
I agree. Where does Lincolntf come from to talk like that? I mean Uzi think he is?
Agreed, and Winchester gets here, we're gonna have a Garand time.
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:56:40pm |
Charles, I'd like to thank you for the intellectual honesty that is always at the core of LGF. When I first started coming here, I felt like I was really to the left of the average Lizard. But in the last few months, as some of the more extreme elements separated themselves from the blog, I feel like my views are pretty much in line with the average Lizard. And that makes this a very attractive and compelling place to hang out. There is discussion and some disagreement, but also a general willingness to hear what the other person has to say. That makes this my favorite internet location.
Thanks again ...
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debutaunt Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:56:52pm |
re: #192 lawhawk
Interesting. So we'll have yet another version to try and wade through, all while Congress doesn't read any of the versions or attempts to get by on the Cliff notes version.
Top questions that have to be asked of Obama and Congress - how much is this costing in each year, and how is it being paid for. Moreover, if there are shortfalls (which with every other entitlement is an absolute given), where are the taxes coming from.
Tort reform, of course.
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CyanSnowHawk Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:57:16pm |
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CommonCents Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:57:21pm |
re: #193 turn
Put a muzzel on it, she's drinking beer and might be loaded.
If you drink too much you'll pistol it's time to go home.
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calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:57:34pm |
re: #193 turn
Put a muzzel on it, she's drinking beer and might be loaded.
That's what happens when you hang around in clip joints.
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tradewind Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:57:51pm |
re: #202 Charles
These hate mails are coming from other sites' posters, though, right?
Please say not lizards.
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:58:22pm |
re: #205 calcajun
Agreed, and Winchester gets here, we're gonna have a Garand time.
We knew there would be repercussions.
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:58:27pm |
re: #198 debutaunt
Left turn, right turn - how am I supposed to keep track?
You never know which way that arrow is going to project, it could point down at the tile next.
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kcladderman Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:58:37pm |
re: #202 Charles
The hate mail situation is getting stupid. I've received more than 100 abusive emails so far about the Van Jones Truther issue.
I'm starting to just IP block anyone who sends that kind of sick crap to me.
Best thing to do with a pest is ignore them and they go away
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:59:09pm |
re: #210 calcajun
That's what happens when you hang around in clip joints.
Going to the restroom, can I borrow a magazine?
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CyanSnowHawk Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:59:12pm |
re: #199 buzzsawmonkey
"The Modern Whig candidate is the hair apparent to this seat..."
Every electoral defeat would be a bad hair day.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:59:24pm |
re: #211 tradewind
These hate mails are coming from other sites' posters, though, right?
Please say not lizards.
So far there have been 4 demands that I delete accounts.
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VioletTiger Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:59:35pm |
re: #202 Charles
You have an amazing amount of patience with this nonsense.
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calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:59:41pm |
re: #212 DEZes
We knew there would be repercussions.
If they try and come after us, wheel lock the door and give them a flinty gaze.
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:59:56pm |
re: #204 KenJen
dang be me to it ... drink the beer I need an edge!
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calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:00:24pm |
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Coracle Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:00:54pm |
re: #217 Charles
So far there have been 4 demands that I delete accounts.
Just got a flash to Inglorious Basterds. Praphrased
'Man here wants his account to die for his beliefs.
Obliiige him.'
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CommonCents Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:01:22pm |
Oh! It's 5:00pm. Time to go home and use my own (much slower) connection. If I don't see any of you until after, have a great holiday weekend.
Cents out.
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kcladderman Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:01:30pm |
re: #217 Charles
So far there have been 4 demands that I delete accounts.
Why demand you delete accounts? Just stop coming here. I mean if you are going to flounce let us all enjoy it.
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calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:01:36pm |
re: #217 Charles
So far there have been 4 demands that I delete accounts.
Tell them cancel their own god-damned subscription. (channeling WF Buckley)
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jaunte Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:01:41pm |
re: #217 Charles
So far there have been 4 demands that I delete accounts.
One possible response:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:01:42pm |
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:02:25pm |
re: #203 DEZes
I will be tossed under the blunderbuss.
Naw, you're at your prime - and about jen? She's go a load on.
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:02:32pm |
re: #220 turn
dang be me to it ... drink the beer I need an edge!
You are a little slow on the draw.
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calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:03:02pm |
re: #227 DEZes
Never mind I pistol over myself.
I'll let it slide as long you did it in the right chamber.
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tradewind Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:03:03pm |
It's times like this that Charles could use an mp3 of Nicholson yelling ' You want the Truthers? You can't handle the Truthers...'
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VioletTiger Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:03:04pm |
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:03:06pm |
re: #192 lawhawk
Top questions that have to be asked of Obama and Congress - how much is this costing in each year, and how is it being paid for. Moreover, if there are shortfalls (which with every other entitlement is an absolute given), where are the taxes coming from.
I get the impression, and correct me please if I'm wrong, that you think the 'public option' is somehow free?
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:03:38pm |
re: #231 tradewind
It's times like this that Charles could use an mp3 of Nicholson yelling ' You want the Truthers? You can't handle the Truthers...'
lol :)
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:03:40pm |
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:03:45pm |
re: #230 calcajun
I'll let it slide as long you did it in the right chamber.
I must have went off half cocked.
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calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:04:06pm |
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Lincolntf Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:04:11pm |
re: #229 KenJen
I could use a drink. Even if it's just a minie one.
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tradewind Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:05:06pm |
re: #233 Diego
Oh hell... it is free, if one is a freeloader to begin with.
For the rest of us taxpayers... not so much.
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calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:05:09pm |
re: #238 Lincolntf
I could use a drink. Even if it's just a minie one.
Might I suggest a Martini-Henry?
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debutaunt Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:05:27pm |
re: #233 Diego
I get the impression, and correct me please if I'm wrong, that you think the 'public option' is somehow free?
Don't you find it hilarious that our government believes that it can come up with some scheme that will save money?
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:05:35pm |
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:05:43pm |
re: #217 Charles
So far there have been 4 demands that I delete accounts.
They're just too chickenshit to go out in their martyristic blaze of glory.
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tradewind Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:05:51pm |
re: #238 Lincolntf
There's some Colt .45 in the fridge...
/ack/
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:05:52pm |
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:06:25pm |
re: #209 CommonCents
If you drink too much you'll pistol it's time to go home.
Yeah and it makes it hard to aim for the toilet too, and if you start to see double it's time to barrel out of there.
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calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:06:42pm |
re: #242 DEZes
I'm gunning for the guy that shot my paw.
I SAW him in the BAR looking for some action.
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calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:07:12pm |
re: #247 turn
Yeah and it makes it hard to aim for the toilet too, and if you start to see double it's time to barrel out of there.
You have to choke up sometimes, too.
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:07:19pm |
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cronus Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:07:51pm |
To be taken with the appropriately sized grain of salt...
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:08:15pm |
re: #217 Charles
So far there have been 4 demands that I delete accounts.
At least you get some joy from the day...I would take great joy in wacking wacko's..Why do people ask for their accounts blocked? Nobody is twisting anybodies arm to come here...
Hey dumb shits! You may not realize this...You never have to come here ever again...Nobody is holding a gun to your head..Just freaking go away if you can't handle it here..
Your silly Flounces are laughable..And just because you are S*cking Beck's wennie doesn't mean you are a true Conservative.. He's an Indy you dips...
Hope the swamp is warm enough for you..
/Hoopster rant off
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:08:19pm |
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:08:24pm |
re: #210 calcajun
That's what happens when you hang around in clip joints.
Yeah and you're bound to be quick to get loaded too.
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Coracle Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:08:31pm |
Time to start getting in some serious Labor Day Weekend loafing.
Later.
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:08:45pm |
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:08:56pm |
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calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:09:20pm |
re: #254 turn
Yeah and you're bound to be quick to get loaded too.
And to drink that cheap stuff, you have to take a straight pull on the bottle.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:09:42pm |
re: #217 Charles
So far there have been 4 demands that I delete accounts.
Would it be better if they said pretty please and enclosed large unmarked bills?
///
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calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:10:03pm |
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lawhawk Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:10:03pm |
re: #233 Diego
I get the impression, and correct me please if I'm wrong, that you think the 'public option' is somehow free?
If you got that impression then your reading comprehension of what I've been posting here and on my own blog isn't what it should be. The public option is never going to be free. No public service is free. Someone is always paying for it. You might not see the cost up front, but it's there.
Health insurance has up front costs - your deductible, your co-pay, and the amount you pay biweekly, but there are additional costs you don't see - with private insurance, it's the portion that the employer kicks in - for Medicare/Medicaid and state insurance plans, it's the taxes paid to fund such plans.
In the case of Medicare/Medicaid, they're operating with multibillion dollar deficits - severely underfunded and it would take a significant reworking of benefits and/or tax hikes to bring them into balance.
A public option will not be free; it would simply spread out the costs of running among people in the form of higher taxes. It's in those details that this Administration has repeatedly obfuscated over how it would spread out the tax burden to cover the costs of the massive expansion of government backed insurance as they intend.
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Lincolntf Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:10:56pm |
re: #251 cronus
If accurate, it's a good thing. The guy doesn't belong in Government.
Not sure exactly "what" he is, but he's nobody I want "shaping economic policy for the 21st Century".
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lawhawk Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:11:05pm |
And with that... I am out of here... Hasta la pasta. Have a great weekend...and I'll probably stop in from time to time...
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kcladderman Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:11:25pm |
re: #251 cronus
To be taken with the appropriately sized grain of salt...
Van who? Never heard of him.
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:11:43pm |
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:12:45pm |
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:13:23pm |
re: #202 Charles
The hate mail situation is getting stupid. I've received more than 100 abusive emails so far about the Van Jones Truther issue.
I'm starting to just IP block anyone who sends that kind of sick crap to me.
Well the truthers deserve to be exposed, they are anti-American bastards who see only evil in anything America does and would seek to undermine all legitimate efforts of our nation to combat terrorism at home and abroad. A pox on them and all their house... and anyone who defends them.
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UFO TOFU Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:13:24pm |
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:13:24pm |
re: #229 KenJen
You are a little slow on the draw.
haha, and I can't spell worth shit either - go off half cocked and loose sight of the target. If you give me a hand though I"m gun make it.
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Lincolntf Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:13:34pm |
re: #266 kcladderman
Rock crushes Scissors, Bus rolls over Van, Paper covers Rock...
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SteveC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:13:54pm |
re: #266 kcladderman
Van who? Never heard of him.
Didn't he have a hit with Brown Eyed Girl in the late 60's?
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:14:40pm |
re: #272 Lincolntf
Rock crushes Scissors, Bus rolls over Van, Paper covers Rock...
Sounds like Wrestlemania.
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tradewind Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:15:56pm |
This is getting pretty much buried in the news cycle of a Friday...
[Link: www.newsdaily.com...]
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snowcrash Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:16:01pm |
re: #272 Lincolntf
Fire melts steel? I stink at puns. lol. Happy Friday afternoon.
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:16:09pm |
re: #262 lawhawk
If you got that impression then your reading comprehension of what I've been posting here and on my own blog isn't what it should be. The public option is never going to be free. No public service is free. Someone is always paying for it. You might not see the cost up front, but it's there.
Health insurance has up front costs - your deductible, your co-pay, and the amount you pay biweekly, but there are additional costs you don't see - with private insurance, it's the portion that the employer kicks in - for Medicare/Medicaid and state insurance plans, it's the taxes paid to fund such plans.
In the case of Medicare/Medicaid, they're operating with multibillion dollar deficits - severely underfunded and it would take a significant reworking of benefits and/or tax hikes to bring them into balance.
A public option will not be free; it would simply spread out the costs of running among people in the form of higher taxes. It's in those details that this Administration has repeatedly obfuscated over how it would spread out the tax burden to cover the costs of the massive expansion of government backed insurance as they intend.
The 'public option' is an insurance program much like any other. If you choose to join it you have pay for it. It is subsidized, but then the GOP wants to offer families $5000 a year in subsidies, so..
And It's not 'single-payer'. It is not replacing Medicare or Medicaid and it's not free. It's just an insurance program designed to be more affordable and more equitable.
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tradewind Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:17:03pm |
re: #251 cronus
I don't know about tonight, but the other Birkenstock is bound to drop on Jones.
He'll be out one way or the other.
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:17:07pm |
re: #266 kcladderman
Van who? Never heard of him.
He is the racist, communist jerk that banded together with the "truthers" to accuse Pres Bush's administration of being involved with the murder of Americans on 9/11.
Oh yeah and he is an Obama appointee who was highly recommended by former VP Gore. He works on environmental issues.
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cronus Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:17:47pm |
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:18:10pm |
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:18:10pm |
re: #251 cronus
To be taken with the appropriately sized grain of salt...
Heh - Obama administration can start a new tradition - the Labor Day Bus Rodeo.
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midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:18:18pm |
re: #266 kcladderman
Van who? Never heard of him.
". . . livin' in a van down by the river."
-- Chris Farley
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tradewind Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:18:23pm |
re: #266 kcladderman
Van who? Never heard of him.
..which was the way the administration was naively hoping to leave it.
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:18:43pm |
re: #249 calcajun
You have to choke up sometimes, too.
Why would I choke up and derringer my pistol?
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snowcrash Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:18:54pm |
re: #279 tradewind
I think it depends on how the Sunday morning TV political pundits handle it.
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:20:00pm |
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midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:20:28pm |
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:20:57pm |
re: #288 turn
Why would I choke up and derringer my pistol?
40 more minutes and I get to glock out and start the weekend!
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:21:03pm |
re: #285 buzzsawmonkey
Please delete me, let me go
I don't post here anymore ...
(with apologies to Eddie Miller -- and to you all cuz I can't remember the rest of the lyrics)
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:21:12pm |
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midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:21:41pm |
re: #292 KenJen
40 more minutes and I get to glock out and start the weekend!
Keep that goal in your sights.
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snowcrash Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:21:42pm |
re: #268 DEZes
DEZ left you a late get well wish on yesterdays thread. Was it your trigger finger?
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:21:44pm |
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:21:59pm |
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tradewind Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:22:37pm |
re: #289 snowcrash
I think it's done. They'll just moan or gloat, depending on their political bent.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:22:39pm |
Finally the hate mail is beginning to slow down. I guess all those good conservatives who called me every profanity in the book are now celebrating the Labor Day weekend with their families.
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:22:46pm |
re: #296 snowcrash
DEZ left you a late get well wish on yesterdays thread. Was it your trigger finger?
Why thank you, and yes it was my trigger finger.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:22:52pm |
Dearest Charles:
I would be most obliged if you would be so kind as to delete the following accounts forthwith upon receipt of this email:
* Pam
* Ron
* Van
* Glenn
The first instalment of my token of appreciation has already been deposited in your Swiss numbered bank account.
Fondly,
Lizard X
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:22:58pm |
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:23:03pm |
re: #299 buzzsawmonkey
Monkeys come cheaper by the barrel.
Witches, on the other hand, are cheaper by the coven.
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SteveC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:23:09pm |
This guy isn't a yahoo, he's medical director of the Long Island Railroad.
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:23:31pm |
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:23:50pm |
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midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:24:17pm |
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:24:23pm |
re: #301 Charles
Finally the hate mail is beginning to slow down. I guess all those good conservatives who called me every profanity in the book are now celebrating the Labor Day weekend with their families.
They never seem to get the irony of attending church on a Sunday and blasting people the rest of the week do they?
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Lincolntf Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:24:27pm |
re: #307 KenJen
You're certainly coming out of your shell today. Was that your aim?
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SteveC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:24:31pm |
re: #301 Charles
Finally the hate mail is beginning to slow down. I guess all those good conservatives who called me every profanity in the book are now celebrating the Labor Day weekend with their families.
Change of Shift. That bunch is going home, a whole new crew will be on the job in a few minutes! (I hope not!)
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midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:25:01pm |
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tradewind Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:25:24pm |
re: #301 Charles
Seriously, I don't get it. This issue inspires that much angst? I can't imagine what will happen to your inbox when a really big deal erupts.
As the poem goes, 'You're a bigger man than I am, Gunga Charles...'.
I'd be going to Disneyworld.
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snowcrash Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:25:59pm |
Anyone want an update on how my ISD is handling the televised Obama message on next Tuesday?
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:26:02pm |
re: #312 Lincolntf
You're certainly coming out of your shell today. Was that your aim?
I think she is casing the joint, so get ready to slug it out.
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kansas Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:26:07pm |
re: #33 jcm
I hang with some cops. Sounds like typical bar conversation. Pretty sure they aren't stupid enough to post it on Facebook.
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:26:17pm |
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:26:19pm |
re: #310 midwestgak
and I will not be the butt of any joke./
well, then... would it bother you if I decided to just refer to you as a butt?
I promise I wont refer to you jokingly?
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:26:48pm |
re: #285 buzzsawmonkey
Awesome! OK this is a true story...In order to get out of a nuclear reactor you get scanned to be free released from the reactor...
I used to sing to the Code 105 techs while they scanned me for anything over 450 micro curries per square inch squared...
Please free release me let me go
Cause I don't like it anymore...
on and on...
They hated me...
I always used to sing this to the green acres song...
Mare Island is the place for me
Easy work on the Submarines
Ballast tanks so far and wide
Darling I love you but I'd rather work outside..
Yup they hated either me..Or my singing voice...*wink*
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SteveC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:26:48pm |
Oh sweet jeebus... an article I am reading begins:
"The serious form of congenital heart disease..."
So I guess the other CHD's are for shits and giggles!
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:27:33pm |
I do love my students. On their first quiz, I asked them to tell me about interesting things they learned this week outside of my class. One boy informs me that he has learned to open a locker, about the Renaissance, and that there are three persons in one God.
Catholic education sails onward.
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tradewind Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:27:42pm |
re: #318 kansas
The young ones are.
An awful lot of teens and twenty-somethings are going to learn hard lessons about what social networking sites can do to their career potential.
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KenJen Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:28:25pm |
It's been fun shooting the breeze with you guys. See ya tomorrow.
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:28:27pm |
re: #321 HoosierHoops
Awesome! OK this is a true story...In order to get out of a nuclear reactor you get scanned to be free released from the reactor...
I used to sing to the Code 105 techs while they scanned me for anything over 450 micro curries per square inch squared...
Please free release me let me go
Cause I don't like it anymore...
on and on...
They hated me...
I always used to sing this to the green acres song...
Mare Island is the place for me
Easy work on the Submarines
Ballast tanks so far and wide
Darling I love you but I'd rather work outside..Yup they hated either me..Or my singing voice...*wink*
Were you asked to sing solo that they couldn't hear you?
Or tenor twelve miles away?
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midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:28:59pm |
re: #320 shanec99
well, then... would it bother you if I decided to just refer to you as a butt?
I promise I wont refer to you jokingly?
You don't like puns? about guns?
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:29:00pm |
re: #326 KenJen
It's been fun shooting the breeze with you guys. See ya tomorrow.
Take good care and have a great weekend.
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:29:38pm |
On the Van Jones thing, I've been at work all day and missed all this stuff, but do we yet have an explanation for how his name got on there? Was he one of the "misled"?
As for the others, given Howard Zinn's general view on things, his subsequent claim does not convince me entirely.
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tradewind Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:30:12pm |
re: #322 SteveC
Some of them require one day surgery fixes/patches , believe it or not.
I have had moms with little tots on airplanes two days post open heart surgery.
They're zipping up and down the aisles with their little masks on.
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:30:15pm |
re: #323 SanFranciscoZionist
I do love my students. On their first quiz, I asked them to tell me about interesting things they learned this week outside of my class. One boy informs me that he has learned to open a locker, about the Renaissance, and that there are three persons in one God.
Catholic education sails onward.
that is not such a bad thing is it? I mean without the Italian Catholics in the Renaissance who pushed back against the stupid and ignorant church leaders... well where would we be today?
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yochanan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:30:15pm |
re: #282 cronus
MOSTLY because they are the gang bangers on the corner, go right past the skool.
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brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:30:25pm |
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:31:00pm |
re: #325 tradewind
The young ones are.
An awful lot of teens and twenty-somethings are going to learn hard lessons about what social networking sites can do to their career potential.
That and dumb piercings (like gigantic disks in the ears) and tattoos. The most common regret I hear from former students (and nearly all of mine are attorneys) concern tattoos.
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:31:18pm |
re: #292 KenJen
40 more minutes and I get to glock out and start the weekend!
kewl, remember a rolling rock gathers no mossberg - or something like that.
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:31:20pm |
re: #328 midwestgak
You don't like puns? about guns?
I enjoy them... I just responded in kind with a pun about buns... or butts if you want to use that.
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kansas Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:32:03pm |
re: #243 Honorary Yooper
They're just too chickenshit to go out in their martyristic blaze of glory.
So this site so addictive you have to have your account deleted in order to not post? Man, that's powerful.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:32:12pm |
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tradewind Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:32:25pm |
re: #336 Lucius Septimius
Yeah, but at least they can be lasered off, albeit expensively and/or painfully in some cases.
Those facebook/Myspace indiscretions live forever.
Some one will make millions when they start a company to hack and repair the damage.
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midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:33:38pm |
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:33:39pm |
re: #340 Spare O'Lake
Now please stop playing a round.
ooohhh boy... someone talking about dropping a load around here? That could create quite a stink.
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brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:33:59pm |
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:34:50pm |
More Van Jones, sorry if already posted..
[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:34:52pm |
re: #341 tradewind
Yeah, but at least they can be lasered off, albeit expensively and/or painfully in some cases.
Those facebook/Myspace indiscretions live forever.
Some one will make millions when they start a company to hack and repair the damage.
Well, that is true, though I suspect ultimately there will be ways to limit that stuff.
I avoid those things like the plague. I also make a point of googling myself periodically to make sure nothing incriminating comes up when I've got job applications out. My occasional conservative statements could get me in hot water in my profession. Actually, I think they'd hurt me more than a whole bunch of naked pix.
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HelloDare Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:35:04pm |
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Erik The Red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:35:14pm |
re: #309 buzzsawmonkey
Actually, you can get monkeys in oil, or you can get monkeys packed in water if you're weight conscious.
Sad, but true. I have been to markets in Africa that sell monkey meat, hands, feet and heads. A most depressing sight.
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SteveC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:36:07pm |
re: #321 HoosierHoops
Yup they hated either me..Or my singing voice...*wink*
A lot can be said about Carl Grissom... for example, he had a wonderful singing voice! - The Joker, Batman
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midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:36:09pm |
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:36:37pm |
re: #349 Erik The Red
Sad, but true. I have been to markets in Africa that sell monkey meat, hands, feet and heads. A most depressing sight.
Hence why an anthropology prof of mine from years back became a vegetarian. Given he was studying chimps, he didn't want to eat them, but when he was in Africa he could never be sure if he was.
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KingKenrod Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:36:42pm |
re: #330 Lucius Septimius
On the Van Jones thing, I've been at work all day and missed all this stuff, but do we yet have an explanation for how his name got on there? Was he one of the "misled"?
As for the others, given Howard Zinn's general view on things, his subsequent claim does not convince me entirely.
I pulled the original posting from archive.org (made on Oct 29 2004) and Van Jones's name is on the list, and the website is clear this is a truther investigation, not a comprehensive investigation into 9/11 as some have suggested.
If Jones was misled into signing the petition (and he probably was - just my opinion), he's had 5 years to correct the record and failed to do so until his position as green job czar was threatened.
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:36:46pm |
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:37:04pm |
re: #349 Erik The Red
Sad, but true. I have been to markets in Africa that sell monkey meat, hands, feet and heads. A most depressing sight.
How you doing you ole South African?
I could share stories about something I saw eaten when I was in East Africa... you would not believe it.
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callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:37:34pm |
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brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:38:32pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:38:48pm |
re: #333 shanec99
that is not such a bad thing is it? I mean without the Italian Catholics in the Renaissance who pushed back against the stupid and ignorant church leaders... well where would we be today?
It's not a bad thing at all, at all, as Father Andrew Greeley would say.
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callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:38:51pm |
re: #356 shanec99
How you doing you ole South African?
I could share stories about something I saw eaten when I was in East Africa... you would not believe it.
Could that, by any chance be Ethiopia ?
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:38:51pm |
re: #355 yochanan
2 4 6 8 VAN JONES HAS GOT TO GO.
2 4 6 8 the Presidents friends just love to hate.
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:39:03pm |
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:39:03pm |
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yochanan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:39:18pm |
there clearly is enough smoke coming from the VAN JONES to prove there is fire, this clearly has passed the 48 hour rule.
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kansas Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:39:27pm |
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midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:39:30pm |
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callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:39:42pm |
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:39:54pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:39:57pm |
I just got here. No time to try and catch up. How are we doing? Josh Groban is playing over the loud speaker in the restaurant where I sit, and I can't seem to see straight.
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VioletTiger Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:40:34pm |
re: #370 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I just got here. No time to try and catch up. How are we doing? Josh Groban is playing over the loud speaker in the restaurant where I sit, and I can't seem to see straight.
What are you drinking?
Can I have some?
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Erik The Red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:40:38pm |
re: #356 shanec99
How you doing you ole South African?
I could share stories about something I saw eaten when I was in East Africa... you would not believe it.
I am good shane99 and you?. I doubt you could tell me anything that would shock me anymore. 23 years in Africa tends to desensitize one to the utter horrors that mankind is capable of.
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right_wing2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:40:52pm |
re: #341 tradewind
That's why I've got a couple of accounts under fake names. I can post whatever I want!
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:41:10pm |
re: #327 DEZes
Were you asked to sing solo that they couldn't hear you?
Or tenor twelve miles away?
The meanest thing ever done to me...After 4 years in School in Nuke School for the DOD I went into my first shut down reactor to do repairs...
When I came out..I got scanned by code 105...The meter should never budge when you are getting scanned from 450 on the scale..It pegged out...
I fell to my knees realizing I was dead...I have never felt so sick in my life..
I heard laughing and lots of it...I look up and realize I had been punk'd by the Techs..Not funny..I was puking on the floor sick out of pure fucking fear...
I have a long memory.. Years later in the Eddy Current program which is serious radiological shit.. I messed those boys up...I gave em all all clear so they removed the air fed hoods...Then I said whoops..Still hot in there...
Puke buckets are available upon request...Made my day
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:41:15pm |
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callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:41:35pm |
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SteveC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:41:37pm |
re: #365 yochanan
there clearly is enough smoke coming from the VAN JONES to prove there is fire, this clearly has passed the 48 hour rule.
If there is smoke coming out of the Van, then we may need a tune up!
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:41:56pm |
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brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:42:27pm |
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:42:51pm |
re: #378 SteveC
If there is smoke coming out of the Van, then we may need a tune up!
..or to jump in and ask them to share ;)
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yochanan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:42:59pm |
re: #368 callahan23
love your quote
tolerance becomes a crime when it applies to evil.
can one up ding a quote on a profile?
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:43:37pm |
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:43:55pm |
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brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:44:26pm |
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:44:40pm |
re: #361 callahan23
Could that, by any chance be Ethiopia ?
I re: #373 Erik The Red
I am good shane99 and you?. I doubt you could tell me anything that would shock me anymore. 23 years in Africa tends to desensitize one to the utter horrors that mankind is capable of.
I was only there for 2 yrs... good grief... I learned more than I wanted to in a life time.
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:45:08pm |
re: #383 DEZes
He may show you his dirty hairy...
Never mind.
It's when he asks me if it was six shots or five that I'll really get worried.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:46:44pm |
I have to share this shocking video I just saw, US Imperialist War Crimes In Iraq:
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gregb Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:47:35pm |
re: #43 jcm
I'm reminded of a George Carlin bit (IIRC), every driver gets a suction dart gun, when some does something dumb, they dart the offending car. Anytime a officer sees a car with 5 darts, he pulls 'em over a give 'em a ticket for being stupid.
I had an idea for the stupid company of the day about 6 or 7 years ago that did upding and downdings over a local area wireless connection between cars that got internally stored. I pitched it to Nokia as part of a whole automotive p2p set of applications. Others were hyper-local road awareness information sharing and push-button, fire and forget radio-show call-ins which were like mini-phone calls to talk radio that may or may not get included on the program, but could be shared among other listeners.
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SteveC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:47:49pm |
re: #388 turn
It's when he asks me if it was six shots or five that I'll really get worried.
Try it. You may get me but I'll turn your head into a canoe.
He ain't bluffing. - Wyatt and Ike, Tombstone
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callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:48:15pm |
re: #387 shanec99
I was only there for 2 yrs... good grief... I learned more than I wanted to in a life time.
I re: #373 Erik The Red
For me it was 2 1/2 yrs of Ethiopia, during which I had vacations in Kenia, Eritrea, Botswana and South Africa.
Makes one humble and thankful to be living in such save and modern societies.
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:48:34pm |
re: #377 callahan23
Just took my hunch from your Rastafarian avatar.
actually I am Jamaican... and the flag is Jamaican... the pic on the flag is a guy I admired... Bob Marley.
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HelloDare Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:48:59pm |
Van Jones decrees the lack of loving affirmative male leadership for white youth. [Link: www.breitbart.tv...] "You've never seen a Columbine done by a black child."
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:49:55pm |
re: #392 callahan23
For me it was 2 1/2 yrs of Ethiopia, during which I had vacations in Kenia, Eritrea, Botswana and South Africa.
Makes one humble and thankful to be living in such save and modern societies.
Why would anyone admit to living in a shyt hole like Eritrea?
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:50:09pm |
re: #392 callahan23
For me it was 2 1/2 yrs of Ethiopia, during which I had vacations in Kenia, Eritrea, Botswana and South Africa.
Makes one humble and thankful to be living in such save and modern societies.
Hey callahan, wasn't it you who said they had milaria? What was that like?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:50:30pm |
re: #386 UFO TOFU
I feel your pain.
Josh Groban and Clay Aiken should do a Duet album... We could call it...
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:50:39pm |
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cronus Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:53:17pm |
Time to go heat up the grill. And speaking of the hot seat...
It appears lots of media outlets used Mike Pence's call for Van Jones' resignation to jump on the story. It is everywhere now.
Have a good afternoon Lizards.
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:53:28pm |
re: #392 callahan23
For me it was 2 1/2 yrs of Ethiopia, during which I had vacations in Kenia, Eritrea, Botswana and South Africa.
Makes one humble and thankful to be living in such save and modern societies.
You do get around dont you.
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:53:31pm |
re: #391 SteveC
Try it. You may get me but I'll turn your head into a canoe.
He ain't bluffing. - Wyatt and Ike, Tombstone
I guess I missed that. I remeber the scene in Deliverance though.
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:53:50pm |
re: #393 shanec99
actually I am Jamaican... and the flag is Jamaican... the pic on the flag is a guy I admired... Bob Marley.
He shot the sheriff!
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:54:29pm |
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brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:54:35pm |
No more gun puns? Shucks, they are a small bore but I'm in lock, stock & barrel.
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Erik The Red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:55:06pm |
Later Lizards. Short stay today. Off to meet some parents from my kids school. Not to bad, it is at a local BBQ joint and they serve booze. :)) May pop in later, if I can see the keyboard.
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:55:34pm |
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:56:34pm |
re: #410 shanec99
yeah... but the sumbych deputy ran like a
fugitivePalin.
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:56:54pm |
re: #406 SteveC
Squeal like a pig!
I didn't have any political positions when that movie first came out, now I have a lot of respect for Voight. He is a rare thing among actors.
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:57:37pm |
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:57:45pm |
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:57:53pm |
maybe van jones can go over to Gubmint Motors and work for the boss over there. then he can change his name to chevy van jones.
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:58:05pm |
re: #412 turn
respect for Voight
I dont mind his acting, but I think he's a right asshat politically.
| 419 |
turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:58:53pm |
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brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:59:12pm |
re: #416 _RememberTonyC
maybe van jones can go over to Gubmint Motors and work for the boss over there. then he can change his name to chevy van jones.
that would be covered by cash for clunkers...
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:59:35pm |
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SteveC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 2:59:44pm |
re: #416 _RememberTonyC
maybe van jones can go over to Gubmint Motors and work for the boss over there. then he can change his name to chevy van jones.
'Cause like a princess she was layin' there
Moonlight dancin' off her hair
She woke up and took me by the hand
We made love in my Chevy van
And that's all right with me
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:00:11pm |
re: #421 brookly red
that would be covered by cash for clunkers...
good one ... i wish I could ding you multiple times for that one
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:01:30pm |
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SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:01:36pm |
re: #202 Charles
The hate mail situation is getting stupid. I've received more than 100 abusive emails so far about the Van Jones Truther issue.
I'm starting to just IP block anyone who sends that kind of sick crap to me.
Sorry to hear that. Welcome to Bircher World, I guess. They're nothing if not organized, and are deeply grafted into the Ronulan communication network as well.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:01:37pm |
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:01:37pm |
re: #417 Diego
I dont mind his acting, but I think he's a right asshat politically.
That doesn't surprise me, you probably feel the same about Ted Nugent.
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:02:07pm |
re: #426 Diego
I've never found her attractive
A woman closing in on 50, four kids, man she is about as fine as it gets. But then you man think ole Janet Reno was good looking... there is no accounting for taste.
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:02:21pm |
re: #425 SteveC
'Cause like a princess she was layin' there
Moonlight dancin' off her hair
She woke up and took me by the hand
We made love in my Chevy van
And that's all right with me
having 70's flashbacks, are we?
| 438 |
SteveC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:02:42pm |
re: #423 DEZes
And I thought mine sucked.
/
And this just in to the WZAL Newsroom... Scientists have proven that there is no gravity, the world just SUCKS!
| 439 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:02:51pm |
re: #422 MikeySDCA
If owned a "Home Fallout Shelter" or a "Taser/Mace Supply" company?
I'd advertise on Beck too!
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:03:19pm |
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TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:03:39pm |
Charlesss!!! you remember me. how sweet
good to see you
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A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:03:56pm |
re: #424 tradebait
my karma/kurma??? please expound ;oP
You walked down an alley and talked trash and got the shit beat out you...
How do you view it?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:04:24pm |
re: #439 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
There's a seed company that advertises survivalist gardening stuff on infowars.
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:04:31pm |
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TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:05:00pm |
re: #442 HoosierHoops
You walked down an alley and talked trash and got the shit beat out you...
How do you view it?
expressing an alternative, albeit unpopular, viewpoint
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SteveC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:05:05pm |
re: #436 shanec99
A woman closing in on 50, four kids, man she is about as fine as it gets. But then you man think ole Janet Reno was good looking... there is no accounting for taste.
Damn you, my soldier is beginning to salute and you have to drag Janet Reno into my mind. I may not be able to get that flagpole up after all!
| 448 |
Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:05:07pm |
re: #444 Killgore Trout
There's a seed company that advertises survivalist gardening stuff on infowars.
Do you get that if your tomatoes are particularly threatening?
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:06:25pm |
re: #448 Lucius Septimius
Do you get that if your tomatoes are particularly threatening?
Tomatoes are red. ;)
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:06:44pm |
re: #443 yochanan
FRY MUMIA
why?
I am as opposed to the death penalty as I am opposed to abortion.
I don't believe society should sanction the taking of human lives, even if the life belongs to a being who behaves like an annimal.
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callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:06:48pm |
re: #396 shanec99
I lived in Ethiopia that was the sh.. -hole. ;-) re: #397 turn
Hey callahan, wasn't it you who said they had milaria? What was that like?
Yup, I had malaria. The bad ie. deadly variety. Plasmodium falciparum the most serious form of the disease. The symptoms are a-typical for the malaria disease family. With me, I had excruciating headaches that wouldn't go away. I misunderstood them for the bacterial sickness 'relapsing fever'. My symptoms lasted for nine days on which day I had my first ague or 'shivering fever'. I received a very potent drug called 'Halfan' against it. That really killed of all of them parasites.
I was in the British embassy clinic when I had my ague and found out that I definitely had the bad malaria. I, from then on only joked with the doctor and nurses. I must've been a funny patient.
Well here I am and live to tell you about it.
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SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:06:49pm |
re: #432 SixDegrees
Sorry to hear that. Welcome to Bircher World, I guess. They're nothing if not organized, and are deeply grafted into the Ronulan communication network as well.
And speaking of the Birchers - has anyone noticed that Van Jones is, you know, one of them? You know - of the {ahem} "darker" persuasion?
Suddenly, the high levels of vitriol make a lot more sense.
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brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:07:04pm |
re: #448 Lucius Septimius
Do you get that if your tomatoes are particularly threatening?
I remember the killer tomatoes...
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:07:05pm |
re: #433 Charles
Creationist.
oh thanks, hey Charles dumb question. That wheee comment upthread, did that mean you were you happy because everybody is linking to LGF?
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SteveC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:07:15pm |
re: #424 tradebait
my karma/kurma??? please expound ;oP
Karma karma karma karma karma chameleon
You come and go
You come and go
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:07:29pm |
re: #447 SteveC
Damn you, my soldier is beginning to salute and you have to drag Janet Reno into my mind. I may not be able to get that flagpole up after all!
try this ...Image: BanderasKelly_7.21.JPG
| 457 |
snowcrash Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:08:11pm |
re: #448 Lucius Septimius
Sure, if grown from GMO seeds. lol
| 458 |
shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:08:30pm |
re: #447 SteveC
Damn you, my soldier is beginning to salute and you have to drag Janet Reno into my mind. I may not be able to get that flagpole up after all!
ole Janet does have that effect doesn't he?
He must have been the ugliest cross dresser to ever hold public office.
| 459 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:09:05pm |
re: #455 SteveC
Karma karma karma karma karma chameleon
You come and go
You come and go
yeah, a sparse poster, for sure. actually, i just came in to test my spiffy new verizon wireless internet. and to say HI, of course
| 461 |
yochanan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:09:28pm |
re: #450 shanec99
the Torah says thou shall not murder and allows capital punishment for it.
showing mercy to the cruel is to me cruel to the mercyful
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SteveC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:09:29pm |
re: #456 _RememberTonyC
try this ...[Link: www.mediabistro.com...]
Helllo, Baby!
Oh yeah, you know what I like!
| 463 |
Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:09:49pm |
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:10:22pm |
re: #451 callahan23
I lived in Ethiopia that was the sh.. -hole. ;-) re: #397 turn
Yup, I had malaria. The bad ie. deadly variety. Plasmodium falciparum the most serious form of the disease. The symptoms are a-typical for the malaria disease family. With me, I had excruciating headaches that wouldn't go away. I misunderstood them for the bacterial sickness 'relapsing fever'. My symptoms lasted for nine days on which day I had my first ague or 'shivering fever'. I received a very potent drug called 'Halfan' against it. That really killed of all of them parasites.
I was in the British embassy clinic when I had my ague and found out that I definitely had the bad malaria. I, from then on only joked with the doctor and nurses. I must've been a funny patient.
Well here I am and live to tell you about it.
I took a daily dose of 100 mg of doxycycline while I was over there. Never missed a dose. Malaria... no way I was gonna get that.
| 465 |
_RememberTonyC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:10:55pm |
| 466 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:11:15pm |
re: #446 TradeBait
expressing an alternative, albeit unpopular, viewpoint
No..It's not an unpopular view you hold...Science proves the Earth in 4.6 Billion years old..If you hold the view it's only 6,000 years old..No matter how popular...You need to be B*tch slapped...
Creationist..Always putting God in a box with your intelligence...
Is that your belief bro?
| 467 |
turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:11:23pm |
re: #451 callahan23
holy shit, you're lucky to be alive. Do you still have any symptoms or did you completely recover?
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:11:28pm |
re: #461 yochanan
the Torah says thou shall not murder and allows capital punishment for it.
showing mercy to the cruel is to me cruel to the mercyful
Then my friend we can have a respectfull and cordial disagreement.
| 469 |
_RememberTonyC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:11:32pm |
| 470 |
Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:12:29pm |
| 471 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:12:37pm |
Kitteh sez, "I can haz jazz, mah brainz iz too hot!"
| 473 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:13:00pm |
re: #466 HoosierHoops
No..It's not an unpopular view you hold...Science proves the Earth in 4.6 Billion years old..If you hold the view it's only 6,000 years old..No matter how popular...You need to be B*tch slapped...
Creationist..Always putting God in a box with your intelligence...
Is that your belief bro?
not my belief at all, as i've stated many, many times. i just refuse to blindly assume that life can self-generate in the absence of any empirical proof.
| 474 |
Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:13:20pm |
You say tomato and I say tomato
You say potato and I say potato
Tomato tomato
Potato potato
Let's call the whole thing off...
*oh well, you had to be there*
| 475 |
Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:13:47pm |
re: #466 HoosierHoops
The church I attended as a child had that covered: No one knows how long one of God's days are ;)
Me, I'm fairly agnostic these days. God, in-doors, puts me right off.
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:13:50pm |
re: #467 turn
holy shit, you're lucky to be alive. Do you still have any symptoms or did you completely recover?
Actually Novartis invented a drug that will clear the body of malaria within four days if used in combination with a drug named fansidar.
We Americans are saving lots of lives in Africa with medication, education and other techniques to reduce the scourge of malaria.
| 477 |
_RememberTonyC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:14:12pm |
re: #472 SteveC
I, for one, am a Fox Female Fan!
banderas and kelly are my two faves. smart, sensible, and freaking hot
| 479 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:14:40pm |
re: #475 Diego
The church I attended as a child had that covered: No one knows how long one of God's days are ;)
Me, I'm fairly agnostic these days. God, in-doors, puts me right off.
yeah, i gave up the church business at a very early age.
| 480 |
SteveC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:14:42pm |
re: #473 TradeBait
not my belief at all, as i've stated many, many times. i just refuse to blindly assume that life can self-generate in the absence of any empirical proof.
Where are you? Late Friday afternoons, the dead rise around here all the time. Collect their paycheck and head for the door.
| 481 |
turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:14:50pm |
re: #471 Killgore Trout
too funny, that's going to the MIL. Her cat died recently and this might cheer her up. Thanks KT
| 483 |
Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:15:25pm |
re: #471 Killgore Trout
Kitteh sez, "I can haz jazz, mah brainz iz too hot!"
Oh that's too funny.
We have a cat who does that.
| 485 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:15:59pm |
A six-year-old girl has become a media darling in China on her first day of school by expressing her aspiration to become a "corrupt official" when she grows up, state media said on Friday.
The young student stated her aspirations in a televised interview that was posted on a southern China website, leading bloggers to describe her comments as "a reflection of social reality", the Southern Metropolis Daily reported.
"When I grow up I want to be an official," said the girl, whose face was blurred to protect her identity.
"What kind of official?" the interviewer asked.
"A corrupt official because corrupt officials have a lot of things," she replied.
/John Murtha is so proud of her
| 486 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:16:03pm |
re: #480 SteveC
Where are you? Late Friday afternoons, the dead rise around here all the time. Collect their paycheck and head for the door.
i'm at home. relaxing. going to watch the cowboys/vikings pre-season game later
| 487 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:16:10pm |
re: #481 turn
I had a cat once that should jump in the shower after I got out and stare at the drain. They have a weird relationship with water.
| 488 |
snowcrash Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:16:15pm |
re: #471 Killgore Trout
brb, the running water thing gets me every time. just kiddin' LOL
| 489 |
Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:16:58pm |
re: #473 TradeBait
not my belief at all, as i've stated many, many times. i just refuse to blindly assume that life can self-generate in the absence of any empirical proof.
I don't know of anyone who ever said that life could self-generate.
| 490 |
turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:16:59pm |
re: #471 Killgore Trout
Hey KT, how do I get a link directly to live link from that?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:17:14pm |
re: #483 Lucius Septimius
Do I recall correctly that you also have a pond in your garden?
| 492 |
shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:17:27pm |
re: #485 Killian Bundy
/John Murtha is so proud of her
John Murtha is corrupt? I would never have known... (whistling).
| 493 |
Syrah Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:17:28pm |
So after Van Jones . . .
What about Pat Buchanan?
| 494 |
_RememberTonyC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:17:33pm |
re: #485 Killian Bundy
/John Murtha is so proud of her
summer re-education camp is in that kid's future ... if she has a future
| 496 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:17:48pm |
re: #489 Spare O'Lake
I don't know of anyone who ever said that life could self-generate.
we are in agreement then.
| 497 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:18:00pm |
re: #490 turn
Right click on the video then open in a new window. You can copy the url from there.
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:18:04pm |
re: #473 TradeBait
not my belief at all, as i've stated many, many times. i just refuse to blindly assume that life can self-generate in the absence of any empirical proof.
Why it does that every time a cell in your body devides.
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:18:08pm |
re: #491 Killgore Trout
Do I recall correctly that you also have a pond in your garden?
I did but it dried up during the drought. Now that the drought is officially over, this winter I can get it back in shape.
| 501 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:18:49pm |
| 503 |
_RememberTonyC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:19:09pm |
time to check out for awhile ... gonna get some Thai/Laotian food tonight ... and a nice bottle of cab ... later all!
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:19:32pm |
re: #494 _RememberTonyC
summer re-education camp is in that kid's future ... if she has a future
nope... she will be forced to watch hours on end of the President's speech to American School children... that will "learn her" good sense.
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turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:19:50pm |
re: #487 Killgore Trout
I had a cat once that should jump in the shower after I got out and stare at the drain. They have a weird relationship with water.
I had one that I think I OD'd on a vacination shot. From then on he would jump up on the edge of the sink and bat at the water coming out of the faucet. Tiger was a cool cat, I trained him to do chin ups.
| 506 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:20:00pm |
re: #464 shanec99
I took a daily dose of 100 mg of doxycycline while I was over there. Never missed a dose. Malaria... no way I was gonna get that.
I wasn't gonna put up with the side effects. Well bummer, thought I could beat it with mosquito netting. The going to restaurants brought me to areas that had malaria. 's how I got stung. :-(
re: #467 turn
holy shit, you're lucky to be alive. Do you still have any symptoms or did you completely recover?
No symptoms no more. There is only two ways with Plasmodium falciparum malaria either it kills you or you kill the parasites in the body. No reoccurring of the malaria of that type.
The only side effect I probably have from the prophylaxis and the treatment is that my eyesight is a little worse now.
| 507 |
SteveC Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:20:08pm |
re: #504 shanec99
nope... she will be forced to watch hours on end of the President's speech to American School children... that will "learn her" good sense.
And if that doesn't work... Lost in Space reruns.
| 508 |
debutaunt Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:20:15pm |
| 509 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:20:41pm |
re: #500 Lucius Septimius
Ah. I've been having ph and water quality issues and made an interesting discovery. Aluminum sulphate is commonly used to lower the ph of soil in garden soil. I added some to my pond to see what happens, it purifies the water and buffers the ph to just a tad under 7. Very interesting. Fish and plants were not troubled by it.
| 510 |
BothAndWorld Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:21:52pm |
Afternoon Lizards!
Perhaps someone out there could lend me some guidance...
I am currently involved with my college Republican club and was dismayed that they want to invite non other than Laup Nor to speak at one of their events. While I've always thought the guy was out there, it was thanks to LGF that I came to realize how nuts he really is. I want to dissuade the club from inviting him, but I don't know what steps to take...
| 511 |
turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:21:59pm |
re: #476 shanec99
Actually Novartis invented a drug that will clear the body of malaria within four days if used in combination with a drug named fansidar.
We Americans are saving lots of lives in Africa with medication, education and other techniques to reduce the scourge of malaria.
Right on. I thought you were Jamican ...
| 512 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:22:09pm |
re: #473 TradeBait
not my belief at all, as i've stated many, many times. i just refuse to blindly assume that life can self-generate in the absence of any empirical proof.
Ok...so at the bottom of the ocean where no life can exist...Well at least only 2 deep submersibles can last for one hour..There is life regenerating constantly at the Vents...I realize mankind doesn't in the least understand life and it's processes.. But isn't that the point? We don't understand life much less build our theories about it?
We have fossils over 20000 years old of humans..Kind of fucks up the 6000 year old thing doesn't it..
Or does it?
| 513 |
shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:22:12pm |
re: #506 callahan23
No symptoms no more. There is only two ways with Plasmodium falciparum malaria either it kills you or you kill the parasites in the body. No reoccurring of the malaria of that type.
The only side effect I probably have from the prophylaxis and the treatment is that my eyesight is a little worse now.
well you could have taken the weekly dose of Lariam.
| 514 |
Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:22:15pm |
re: #489 Spare O'Lake
I don't know of anyone who ever said that life could self-generate.
Actually, a new, never before witnessed, life form was discovered where the LA water treatment works are emptied into the ocean. Wouldn't that qualify?
| 515 |
Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:22:20pm |
re: #496 TradeBait
we are in agreement then.
Well no one ever said it because it doesn't mean anything - at least not in the English that I happen to speak.
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:23:04pm |
re: #511 turn
Right on. I thought you were Jamican ...
I am Jamaican by birth... naturalized American.
| 517 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:23:15pm |
Sorry if this was mentioned in any threads in the last week or so, but I see that Dawkins has a new book coming out on September 22. More details at The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution.
| 518 |
turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:23:20pm |
re: #487 Killgore Trout
I had a cat once that should jump in the shower after I got out and stare at the drain. They have a weird relationship with water.
hey, how did that smoked salmon turn out anyway?
| 519 |
Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:23:40pm |
re: #509 Killgore Trout
That's interesting.
I never had much of a problem with balance in mine -- the fish bred like rabbits, as did the frogs and other critters. I felt sick after I had to rip it up, but by spring I should be back in business.
I'm taking the opportunity to reconfigure it somewhat and change the profile of the edge -- moving away from a straight drop to more of a 'beach' look.
| 520 |
SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:24:03pm |
re: #478 NoJoey
Sign the petition to support Van Jones!
Target:
President Obama
Sponsored by:
Skip Mendler, Wayne County (PA) Green Party CommitteeVan Jones, author of Green Collar Economy and presently Special Advisor for Green Jobs at the White House Council on Environmental Quality, has come under concerted and withering fire from the racist sexist paranoid wing of the Republican Party of ultimate evil, including commentators like Glenn Beck and Satan.
We the undersigned urge President Obama to resist calls for Jones' removal. It would be a tragedy if such a truthful and visionary yet practical man as Van Jones were to be hounded out of office by lies, distortions, lies and innuendo and lies. Stick by him, defend him, and make it clear to these awful, mean spirited right-wing bullies that such tactics as theirs are doomed to failure.
Let's see: would I rather sign a petition supporting Van Jones as a truth-telling visionary, or drink a glass of puke?
Bartender - pour me a tall one, please.
| 521 |
turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:24:16pm |
| 522 |
Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:24:19pm |
re: #510 BothAndWorld
Say "if he's a Republican, than I'm Marie of Romania"
| 523 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:24:35pm |
re: #512 HoosierHoops
Ok...so at the bottom of the ocean where no life can exist...Well at least only 2 deep submersibles can last for one hour..There is life regenerating constantly at the Vents...I realize mankind doesn't in the least understand life and it's processes.. But isn't that the point? We don't understand life much less build our theories about it?
We have fossils over 20000 years old of humans..Kind of fucks up the 6000 year old thing doesn't it..
Or does it?
the key word being "regenerate." it comes from pre-existing life, not inanimate material. and i've been over the 6000 year thing repeatedly. not part of my belief system
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opnion Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:25:39pm |
re: #478 NoJoey
Sign the petition to support Van Jones!
Target:
President Obama
Sponsored by:
Skip Mendler, Wayne County (PA) Green Party CommitteeVan Jones, author of Green Collar Economy and presently Special Advisor for Green Jobs at the White House Council on Environmental Quality, has come under concerted and withering fire from the racist sexist paranoid wing of the Republican Party of ultimate evil, including commentators like Glenn Beck and Satan.
We the undersigned urge President Obama to resist calls for Jones' removal. It would be a tragedy if such a truthful and visionary yet practical man as Van Jones were to be hounded out of office by lies, distortions, lies and innuendo and lies. Stick by him, defend him, and make it clear to these awful, mean spirited right-wing bullies that such tactics as theirs are doomed to failure.
Is this actually legitimate?
| 527 |
turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:26:19pm |
re: #506 callahan23
And to think I worry about ticks of all things. It blew me away when I first learned America and malaria all over the place years ago. Somehow I just figured we never had it here.
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Syrah Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:26:27pm |
re: #510 BothAndWorld
Afternoon Lizards!
Perhaps someone out there could lend me some guidance...I am currently involved with my college Republican club and was dismayed that they want to invite non other than Laup Nor to speak at one of their events. While I've always thought the guy was out there, it was thanks to LGF that I came to realize how nuts he really is. I want to dissuade the club from inviting him, but I don't know what steps to take...
Check out the many links here on Laup Nor.
If you cannot persuade them, be prepared to leave them. You don't have to partake in their crazy.
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:26:28pm |
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callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:26:28pm |
re: #513 shanec99
well you could have taken the weekly dose of Lariam.
That's what I took for most of the time up until I felt save with my mosquito netting in a safe area (altitude and all).
Didn't work out quite as well.
| 531 |
shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:26:38pm |
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wrenchwench Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:26:56pm |
re: #510 BothAndWorld
Afternoon Lizards!
Perhaps someone out there could lend me some guidance...I am currently involved with my college Republican club and was dismayed that they want to invite non other than Laup Nor to speak at one of their events. While I've always thought the guy was out there, it was thanks to LGF that I came to realize how nuts he really is. I want to dissuade the club from inviting him, but I don't know what steps to take...
In the left column on this page there is a green list with triangles. Click on the triangle next to "tag cloud." Find the tag that says "Ron Paul" and click on that. Do some reading, fire up your printer, and start educating some young Republicans.
Welcome to LGF!
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:27:01pm |
re: #514 Diego
Actually, a new, never before witnessed, life form was discovered where the LA water treatment works are emptied into the ocean. Wouldn't that qualify?
Nope.
That's just Godzilla doing laps of the Pacific rim.
| 534 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:27:43pm |
re: #510 BothAndWorld
I want to dissuade the club from inviting him, but I don't know what steps to take...
Good luck. Ron Paul has a lot of appeal to young Republicans. I guess it's all the revolution talk and radical ideas have appeal to the young. I wouldn't even know where to start. Perhaps figuring out why they like him would be a good place to start.
| 535 |
Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:27:56pm |
OK, time to finish dinner.
Later kids.
| 536 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:27:58pm |
re: #523 TradeBait
the key word being "regenerate." it comes from pre-existing life, not inanimate material. and i've been over the 6000 year thing repeatedly. not part of my belief system
Fair enough.. hope today finds you well...
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:28:05pm |
re: #530 callahan23
That's what I took for most of the time up until I felt save with my mosquito netting in a safe area (altitude and all).
Didn't work out quite as well.
that will learn you...
| 538 |
yochanan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:28:11pm |
re: #532 wrenchwench
i remember signing one of these things as LEON TROTSKY
| 539 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:28:46pm |
| 540 |
Lucius Septimius Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:28:56pm |
| 541 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:29:47pm |
re: #518 turn
hey, how did that smoked salmon turn out anyway?
It wasn't my best batch. I did it on a warm (80's) day. Even tough my bbq was in the shade the salmon ended up partially cooked. Tastes good though but I'll keep my cold smoking to the fall and winter months. It just works better.
| 542 |
snowcrash Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:30:12pm |
re: #524 DEZes
I'm going to ding him up. maybe. He could have started with "hey assh*les look at this".
| 543 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:30:17pm |
re: #523 TradeBait
the key word being "regenerate." it comes from pre-existing life, not inanimate material.
And you know this ... how?
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John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:30:23pm |
re: #523 TradeBait
the key word being "regenerate." it comes from pre-existing life, not inanimate material. and i've been over the 6000 year thing repeatedly. not part of my belief system
I think you are saying that we don't have a working theory for how life first started, i.e. how the first living organism come into being. I believe that you are correct in this, although a number of hypotheses exist, one of the most novel being the inorganic crystal replicator theory of Cairns-Smith. Of course, none of this in any way invalidates neo-Darwinism which talks about the evolution of living organisms.
| 545 |
solomonpanting Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:30:31pm |
re: #531 shanec99
I might sign it without reading it... watch out yall.
That seems to be the MO of folks in DC since BO became POTUS.
| 546 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:30:57pm |
Joke of the day: EU to continue with twin-track approach on Iran
The European Union will continue to pursue its carrots-and-sticks policy towards Iran in the hope that Teheran may respond positively to a US-imposed deadline for disclosing details of its controversial nuclear programme, EU foreign ministers said Friday.‘We have a so-called twin-track approach. We’ll stick to it,’...
| 547 |
SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:31:03pm |
re: #510 BothAndWorld
Afternoon Lizards!
Perhaps someone out there could lend me some guidance...I am currently involved with my college Republican club and was dismayed that they want to invite non other than Laup Nor to speak at one of their events. While I've always thought the guy was out there, it was thanks to LGF that I came to realize how nuts he really is. I want to dissuade the club from inviting him, but I don't know what steps to take...
Go to the officers of the club and lay out your reasons for thinking this is a bad idea. Be concise and pleasant. Focus on the divergence between true Conservative values and the values espoused by Ronulans, and it probably wouldn't hurt to have a section detailing Paul's links to all sorts of unsavory groups that were exposed during the last election cycle, like neo-Nazi, Troofers, Birchers and other groups the Republicans have no reason to associate with or support.
| 548 |
opnion Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:31:08pm |
re: #531 shanec99
I might sign it without reading it... watch out yall.
Well, that's ok. if you get blow back just make a vague statement about not supporting it now or ever. The Progressives will love it & defend you,
Then if you get really busted just say,
"Hey I didn't know what I was signing. I mean I knew it was to support Van Jones & all, which I clearly do not, but they put other stuff in"
You are safe to sign.
| 549 |
Desert Dog Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:31:17pm |
| 550 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:32:20pm |
re: #543 Charles
And you know this ... how?
from every scrap of evidence currently available in the natural world? but, if you have evidence to the contrary, please hop on the next flight to Oslo. Your Nobel awaits.
| 551 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:32:20pm |
re: #510 BothAndWorld
Here's a couple links to start you off...
Ron Paul '90s newsletters rant against blacks, gays
| 552 |
Desert Dog Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:32:27pm |
re: #546 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Joke of the day: EU to continue with twin-track approach on Iran
I believe that is also called "the old two-faced" as well, yes?
| 553 |
Bear Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:32:29pm |
Just back from town where I had my usual lunch - halibut burger and slaw. Good.
| 555 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:33:00pm |
re: #550 TradeBait
from every scrap of evidence currently available in the natural world? but, if you have evidence to the contrary, please hop on the next flight to Oslo. Your Nobel awaits.
Every scrap of evidence? Wow. That's a lot of evidence. How about giving me one example?
| 556 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:33:02pm |
re: #544 John Neverbend
I think you are saying that we don't have a working theory for how life first started, i.e. how the first living organism
comecame into being.
PIMF
| 557 |
yochanan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:33:03pm |
re: #546 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Joke of the day: EU to continue with twin-track approach on Iran
SEEMS THE E.U. IS USING THE CARROT AND THE POTU$ IS USING THE KUSH'N TOUCKAS
hopefully the Israeli air force will use the big stick
| 558 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:33:51pm |
How Team of Geeks Cracked Spy Trade
From a Silicon Valley office strewn with bean-bag chairs, a group of twenty-something software engineers is building an unlikely following of terrorist hunters at U.S. spy agencies.
One of the latest entrants into the government spy-services marketplace, Palantir Technologies has designed what many intelligence analysts say is the most effective tool to date to investigate terrorist networks. The software's main advance is a user-friendly search tool that can scan multiple data sources at once, something previous search tools couldn't do. That means an analyst who is following a tip about a planned terror attack, for example, can more quickly and easily unearth connections among suspects, money transfers, phone calls and previous attacks around the globe.
Palantir's software has helped root out terrorist financing networks, revealed new trends in roadside bomb attacks, and uncovered details of Syrian suicide bombing networks in Iraq, according to current and former U.S. officials familiar with the events. It has also foiled a Pakistani suicide bombing plot on Western targets and discovered a spy infiltration of an allied government. It is now being used by the Central Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Yet Palantir -- which takes its name from the "seeing stones" in the "Lord of the Rings" series -- remains an outlier among government security contractors. It rejected advice to hire retired generals to curry favor with the agencies and hired young government analysts frustrated by working with slow-footed technology. The company's founders knew little about intelligence gathering when they started out. Instead, they went on a fact-finding mission, working with analysts to build the product from scratch.
/maybe they can figure out how to pay the car dealers for Cash For Clunkers, because it seems to be a mystery to the government
| 560 |
Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:34:28pm |
Who here likes a little Kinky? (grin)
[Link: www.kinkyfriedman.com...]
Kinky Friedman's Letter to Texans
Dear Fellow Texans:
Here’s the way I see it: Democrats + Independents = Victory.
I was serious when I ran for governor in 2006 and I’m serious now. I am a humorist, but I know these are not humorous times for a lot of us. Part of the reason is the pathetic lack of leadership at the state level. The last governor, I believe, who was truly on the side of the people of Texas, was Ann Richards. She was a very funny lady - she was also a great governor. I’ll take my cues from Ann Richards.
| 561 |
yochanan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:34:40pm |
re: #551 Killgore Trout
if the choice became the zero vs rat pukanan/nor laup I WOULD START A THIRD PARTY and pack my bags.
| 562 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:34:50pm |
re: #555 Charles
Every scrap of evidence? Wow. That's a lot of evidence. How about giving me one example?
Charles, you know full well that there is no scientific evidence that life can arise from inanimate material. if it were otherwise, i'm sure i would have read about it by now.
now, i'm not saying it's impossible, just that it has never been documented.
| 565 |
SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:35:02pm |
re: #525 opnion
Is this actually legitimate?
As legitimate as any online petition can be that does no meaningful identity checking.
Feel free to sign it using Van Jones' name. They won't stop you.
| 566 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:35:58pm |
re: #562 TradeBait
Charles, you know full well that there is no scientific evidence that life can arise from inanimate material. if it were otherwise, i'm sure i would have read about it by now.
now, i'm not saying it's impossible, just that it has never been documented.
Come on. If "every scrap of evidence in the whole world" backs up your claim that life can't arise from inorganic material, surely it must be easy to come up with one little example?
| 567 |
n in wi Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:36:18pm |
re: #559 buzzsawmonkey
But the rest of us were smart enough not to put the thought on Facebook.
Maybe he should arrest himself.
| 569 |
Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:36:26pm |
re: #560 Diego
Oops, I left out that he's running for Gov. again in 2010
| 570 |
Eowyn2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:36:34pm |
| 571 |
brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:37:05pm |
re: #554 Eowyn2
/when stupidy is outlawed, only outla... never mind.
| 572 |
shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:37:07pm |
re: #548 opnion
Well, that's ok. if you get blow back just make a vague statement about not supporting it now or ever. The Progressives will love it & defend you,
Then if you get really busted just say,
"Hey I didn't know what I was signing. I mean I knew it was to support Van Jones & all, which I clearly do not, but they put other stuff in"
You are safe to sign.
Hell I want one of them high payin' jobs in DC,
I bet you if I got one of them and was involved in a scandal I could get fired and write a book about how unfair it all was.
I will be rolling in the dough.
Please tell me where I can sign.
| 573 |
Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:37:25pm |
re: #550 TradeBait
from every scrap of evidence currently available in the natural world? but, if you have evidence to the contrary, please hop on the next flight to Oslo. Your Nobel awaits.
And so the Karma deficit begins anew.
| 574 |
AuntAcid Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:37:30pm |
"Netanyahu's refusal to bend on the settlement issue despite repeated U.S. appeals threatens to damage Obama's credibility in the Arab world."
gosh darn it...
| 575 |
Desert Dog Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:37:36pm |
| 577 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:38:03pm |
re: #562 TradeBait
Charles, you know full well that there is no scientific evidence that life can arise from inanimate material. if it were otherwise, i'm sure i would have read about it by now.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
| 579 |
Eowyn2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:38:05pm |
re: #559 buzzsawmonkey
But the rest of us were smart enough not to put the thought on Facebook.
arrest that cop
| 580 |
wrenchwench Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:38:53pm |
re: #569 Diego
Oops, I left out that he's running for Gov. again in 2010
And we know he's serious this time because he's running as a Democrat.
| 581 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:39:31pm |
re: #566 Charles
Come on. If "every scrap of evidence in the whole world" backs up your claim that life can't arise from inorganic material, surely it must be easy to come up with one little example?
nah, i'm not going on a link quest tonight to satisfy your odd obsession with circular reasoning. you surely know that if there were evidence to the contrary it would be front-page news in every media outlet around the globe.
| 582 |
solomonpanting Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:39:56pm |
re: #568 buzzsawmonkey
Obama's having a Jones on his back isn't going to help any White House anti-drug initiatives.
And if he resigns can we expect something along the lines of "Van Goghs
Missing From White House"?
| 583 |
Eowyn2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:40:08pm |
re: #578 buzzsawmonkey
You haven't seen my refrigerator.
keep your refrigerator away from my refrigerator!
| 585 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:40:14pm |
| 587 |
Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:41:02pm |
re: #578 buzzsawmonkey
You haven't seen my refrigerator.
Behind your fridge would probably be a better example ;)
| 588 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:41:04pm |
re: #581 TradeBait
nah, i'm not going on a link quest tonight to satisfy your odd obsession with circular reasoning. you surely know that if there were evidence to the contrary it would be front-page news in every media outlet around the globe.
You said "every scrap of evidence in the world" backs up your claim, but you can't even think of one little piece of it?
In other words, you were just talking out of your hat, and you can't back it up.
| 589 |
SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:41:32pm |
re: #558 Killian Bundy
How Team of Geeks Cracked Spy Trade
/maybe they can figure out how to pay the car dealers for Cash For Clunkers, because it seems to be a mystery to the government
I haven't heard anything about that in a couple of weeks. Are they still waiting to be paid? A lot of them took out loans in order to make the program work, and had planned to pay the loans off before interest started racking up.
| 590 |
shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:41:37pm |
re: #583 Eowyn2
keep your refrigerator away from my refrigerator!
you should see the dumpster behind my apartment complex. We are talking new life forms and mutants. The damned thing must contain radioactive waste.
| 591 |
Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:41:42pm |
| 593 |
jorline Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:42:05pm |
re: #559 buzzsawmonkey
Sorry for the drive-by...Friday night high school football.
598 buzzsawmonkey Thu, Sep 3, 2009 11:01:34am replyquote
Jorline, if you're still here--we were talking about fast-food burgers last night. Someone mentioned that many burgers nowadays have been padded with soy protein.
Given the push for soybeans to serve as "biofuels," I think that pushing a burger with heavy soy padding as a "Biofuel Burger™" might actually sell, tapping in as it does to all the "green" stuff.
Something to think about, maybe.
Hey buzz, my burgers are 100% 80/20 fresh ground beef...no fillers. The big boys use that in their frozen patties.
You may have an angle though...ummm Biofuel Burgers.
First problem I see is "Green" shit!
| 594 |
turn Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:42:06pm |
re: #578 buzzsawmonkey
You haven't seen my refrigerator.
LOL. Don't have time to jump into that debate because I"M OFF WORK UNTIL THE 14TH! Have a good holiday lizards, time to go walk the lab along the American and quite possibly either Union Valley Reservoir in the Sierras and/or Doran beach along the Pacific Ocean.
| 595 |
AuntAcid Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:42:24pm |
re: #592 buzzsawmonkey
No, life spontaneously generates from all sorts of things in there. My refrigerator is a growth industry.
green jobs?
| 596 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:42:40pm |
re: #553 Bear
Just back from town where I had my usual lunch - halibut burger and slaw. Good.
Why'd you order that sandwich?
Oh, just for the hallibut.
| 597 |
Neutral President Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:43:06pm |
re: #581 TradeBait
nah, i'm not going on a link quest tonight to satisfy your odd obsession with circular reasoning. you surely know that if there were evidence to the contrary it would be front-page news in every media outlet around the globe.
I'm going to print this out. Whenever I'm having a bad day, I'll look at it and laugh my ass off. Bad day fixed.
| 598 |
Desert Dog Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:43:09pm |
re: #592 buzzsawmonkey
No, life spontaneously generates from all sorts of things in there. My refrigerator is a growth industry.
growing your own penicillin must save you a fortune! Good for you!
| 599 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:43:45pm |
re: #588 Charles
You said "every scrap of evidence in the world" backs up your claim, but you can't even think of one little piece of it?
In other words, you were just talking out of your hat, and you can't back it up.
i don't wear hats. as i've said -- repeatedly -- there is no scientific evidence to the contrary. i have nothing to prove, or disprove, for that matter
| 600 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:43:46pm |
re: #576 NoJoey
Yes. Even Charles signed it.
Excuse me, but what is your purpose in this? You know damned well I didn't sign that.
| 601 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:43:46pm |
re: #574 AuntAcid
"Netanyahu's refusal to bend on the settlement issue despite repeated U.S. appeals threatens to damage Obama's credibility in the Arab world."
gosh darn it...
Which "chacham ba'laila" made that statement about Netanyahu?
| 603 |
acwgusa Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:43:52pm |
re: #546 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Joke of the day: EU to continue with twin-track approach on Iran
I didn't know weasel and grovel was a twin-track approach. Or is that appease and surrender?
| 604 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:43:56pm |
| 605 |
Bear Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:44:10pm |
re: #596 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Be cause it was Friday. And have to support the fishermen.
| 606 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:44:33pm |
re: #599 TradeBait
i don't wear hats. as i've said -- repeatedly -- there is no scientific evidence to the contrary. i have nothing to prove, or disprove, for that matter
But you're wrong.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
or try:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
| 607 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:45:02pm |
re: #552 Desert Dog
I believe that is also called "the old two-faced" as well, yes?
...and standing there bare-asked nekkid squealing, 'I got my twin-twack and I'm stwickin'-to-it!
Ready for a stick-in-the eye?
Me no likey.
| 610 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:45:46pm |
re: #589 SixDegrees
I haven't heard anything about that in a couple of weeks. Are they still waiting to be paid? A lot of them took out loans in order to make the program work, and had planned to pay the loans off before interest started racking up.
/still getting screwed
| 611 |
Eowyn2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:45:55pm |
re: #587 Diego
Behind your fridge would probably be a better example ;)
Behind the fridge
there is a piece of glass
and if you sit upon it
you'll cut your little
asssk me no more questions
I'll tell you no more lies...
| 612 |
AuntAcid Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:46:33pm |
re: #601 John Neverbend
Which "chacham ba'laila" made that statement about Netanyahu?
[Link: www.comcast.net...]
AP story
| 613 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:46:43pm |
| 614 |
KingKenrod Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:46:50pm |
Lizard & human heart development governed by same gene:
[Link: www.sciencedaily.com...]
| 616 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:46:53pm |
re: #606 Charles
But you're wrong.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
or try:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
those are quite interesting, but they prove nothing. the key phrases are "could have" and "it's plausible." those hardly qualify as empirical scientific data.
| 617 |
shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:46:56pm |
re: #600 Charles
Excuse me, but what is your purpose in this? You know damned well I didn't sign that.
Charles, you know the first thing every guilty person does is make an indignant and vociferous denial.
| 618 |
jorline Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:47:02pm |
re: #602 buzzsawmonkey
I applaud your commitment to quality, jorline--I was just figuring that this would be a way to cash in on all the "green" obsession that's floating around.
You may be on to something...think we could catch any tax breaks from the Green Czar?
Start writing the jiggles buzz.
BBL
| 619 |
Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:47:54pm |
re: #599 TradeBait
i don't wear hats. as i've said -- repeatedly -- there is no scientific evidence to the contrary. i have nothing to prove, or disprove, for that matter
Lemme help you out, down-ding king.
Hint: The dish ran away with the spoon.
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lincolntf Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:47:58pm |
CNN and Fox just did back-to-back segments on VJ. Of the 6 talking heads between both networks, I think only one said they think Van Jones will keep his job through the weekend.
Buh-bye, Van.
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Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:48:11pm |
re: #611 Eowyn2
Behind the refrigerator
Was a piece of glass
When sally sat upon it
She cut her little as..
..sk me no more questions
I'll tell you no more lies...
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Eowyn2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:48:46pm |
re: #592 buzzsawmonkey
No, life spontaneously generates from all sorts of things in there. My refrigerator is a growth industry.
This life force brought to you by Freon, going where no man has gone before.
| 624 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:48:59pm |
re: #619 Spare O'Lake
Lemme help you out, down-ding king.
Hint: The dish ran away with the spoon.
and i'm supposed to mourn over being "down-dinged" on a blog?? sorry, but i could not possibly care less.
| 625 |
Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:49:10pm |
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:49:36pm |
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SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:49:42pm |
re: #610 Killian Bundy
/still getting screwed
Swell. It'll really help the economy when all those dealerships close their doors and file for bankruptcy brought on by participation in this program.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:50:15pm |
re: #616 TradeBait
those are quite interesting, but they prove nothing. the key phrases are "could have" and "it's plausible." those hardly qualify as empirical scientific data.
So show me the evidence to back up your claim. If "every scrap of evidence in the world" is on your side, it's gotta be really easy to give me one example, right?
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Neutral President Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:50:57pm |
re: #610 Killian Bundy
/still getting screwed
And GM and Ford ramped up production because of this. What happens now that it's over and they have all this inventory collecting dust?
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wrenchwench Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:51:16pm |
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brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:51:51pm |
re: #629 ArchangelMichael
And GM and Ford ramped up production because of this. What happens now that it's over and they have all this inventory collecting dust?
year end sale?
| 633 |
jamgarr Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:51:54pm |
Biden said today that they've "saved or created" 500,000 to 1,000,000 jobs. Yeah, that's the ticket.
| 634 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:52:02pm |
Lee and Herring - When Insects Attack 1
| 635 |
debutaunt Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:52:10pm |
re: #522 Lucius Septimius
Say "if he's a Republican, than I'm Marie of Romania"
Be kind and give DP credit.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:52:22pm |
re: #615 wrenchwench
Sure enough...No Joey.
They think they're being clever when they pull stunts like that.
I've had my name removed from that list.
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Neutral President Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:52:29pm |
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:52:51pm |
re: #630 wrenchwench
I knew that wasn't a hat you were talkin' out of...
I was thinking along the same lines, thanks for posting it.
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TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:53:16pm |
re: #628 Charles
So show me the evidence to back up your claim. If "every scrap of evidence in the world" is on your side, it's gotta be really easy to give me one example, right?
the absence of any scientific data to prove otherwise is my evidence. simply assuming that something is possible without any demonstrable evidence to back it up is more akin to faith than science.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:53:24pm |
re: #629 ArchangelMichael
Wonder what will happen to the price of platinum in the meantime...
Platinum fell to as low as $800 an ounce last year, but went back to over $1000 an ounce while the auto industry was really hurting, iirc...
| 641 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:54:34pm |
re: #638 DEZes
I was thinking along the same lines, thanks for posting it.
How's the digit, old man?
| 642 |
SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:54:40pm |
re: #632 brookly red
year end sale?
To who? Every single person in the country who was even mildly considering buying a car and was able to do so has already done it. The marketplace is saturated with cars; there's no market left to sell anything to, and there won't be for at least several months.
| 643 |
Bagua Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:54:41pm |
| 644 |
Eowyn2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:54:43pm |
re: #637 ArchangelMichael
At a loss, when the "L" word is the last thing they need.
Depends on the "clunker" There were some nice trucks in the local lot that could probably get close to 4500 if not more. Depends on the car lot 'match' or trade in given in excess over the 4500.
| 645 |
brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:54:47pm |
re: #637 ArchangelMichael
well we can just raise taxes & print some more money... what could go wrong?
| 646 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:54:51pm |
re: #639 TradeBait
the absence of any scientific data to prove otherwise is my evidence. simply assuming that something is possible without any demonstrable evidence to back it up is more akin to faith than science.
Dumb, dumb, dumb. Just because it hasn't been yet doesn't mean it won't be. Absence proves nothing.
| 647 |
wrenchwench Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:54:53pm |
re: #638 DEZes
I was thinking along the same lines, thanks for posting it.
Yeah, I deleted the previous version...
| 648 |
jorline Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:55:18pm |
The four females aren't ready to go yet...I was given another 10 minutes to play in the sandbox.
| 649 |
Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:55:21pm |
| 650 |
Eowyn2 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:55:28pm |
gotta push the boss to get going, have a great weekend.
| 651 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:55:39pm |
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TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:55:44pm |
re: #646 Sharmuta
Dumb, dumb, dumb. Just because it hasn't been yet doesn't mean it won't be. Absence proves nothing.
i never said it wouldn't be. i said that it hasn't been. big difference in the real world i inhabit.
| 653 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:55:45pm |
re: #639 TradeBait
the absence of any scientific data to prove otherwise is my evidence. simply assuming that something is possible without any demonstrable evidence to back it up is more akin to faith than science.
I showed you two posts at LGF on the current state of scientific research into the origin of life.
You claimed that "every scrap of evidence in the world" supported your view that it's impossible for life to arise from inorganic matter, and then couldn't come up with a single example. Now you're accusing me of operating on "faith," even though it's you who made a claim with absolutely no evidence behind it.
| 654 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:55:58pm |
re: #647 wrenchwench
Yeah, I deleted the previous version...
You wouldn't have have lost respect with me.
| 655 |
acwgusa Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:55:59pm |
re: #639 TradeBait
the absence of any scientific data to prove otherwise is my evidence. simply assuming that something is possible without any demonstrable evidence to back it up is more akin to faith than science.
So, by your reasoning, a lack of evidence for something is evidence in itself? Hang on, I think a Kangaroo Court in Iran is looking for you.
| 657 |
kcladderman Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:56:24pm |
re: #648 jorline
The four females aren't ready to go yet...I was given another 10 minutes to play in the sandbox.
so that means you got about an hour then huh?
| 658 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:56:31pm |
re: #648 jorline
The four females aren't ready to go yet...I was given another 10 minutes to play in the sandbox.
It's always nice seeing you again...Be well and have a great time my friend
| 659 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:57:02pm |
re: #562 TradeBait
Charles, you know full well that there is no scientific evidence that life can arise from inanimate material. if it were otherwise, i'm sure i would have read about it by now.
now, i'm not saying it's impossible, just that it has never been documented.
What would constitute life arising from inanimate material? The atoms in your body are made up of quarks, gluons and electrons, all of which I would regard as inanimate. Those particles existed long before the first life emerged on this planet, so in that context all life has, by definition, arisen from inanimate material. The issue is how did it get started. At present there is no accepted theory, but my suspicion is that before long this gap in our knowledge will be filled.
On a more specific level, perhaps you mean that at the instant the first truly "living" organism came into being, there was a pre-existing inanimate state from which that organism developed or evolved. I don't think that such a transition has been observed or is likely to be observed (it happened too far in the past), although it seems that at least one hypothesis (that of Cairns-Smith) suggests that this is precisely what took place. Incidentally, this is the hypothesis that Dawkins mentions in the chapter on life's origins in The Blind Watchmaker.
| 661 |
shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:57:17pm |
re: #646 Sharmuta
Dumb, dumb, dumb. Just because it hasn't been yet doesn't mean it won't be. Absence proves nothing.
Absence of proof means you should not make a declarative statement on any matter that does not involve a diety if you want to be considered sane.
| 662 |
Neutral President Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:57:19pm |
re: #640 Fenway_Nation
Well right now, I know that gold and silver are again flirting with the highs. I've heard equally convincing arguments for both a pullback and a continued rally at this point. I'm not so sure about platinum though. Haven't paid enough attention to it because I cant afford it as physical holdings (at least not enough to make the purchase worth all the hoops) and there's no ETF for it that I know of.
| 663 |
midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:57:20pm |
re: #648 jorline
The four females aren't ready to go yet...I was given another 10 minutes to play in the sandbox.
Enjoy the game? If your son is playing tonight, which position?
| 664 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:57:21pm |
re: #649 Diego
Did he get *cough* fingered as well?? :o
You are NOT going to believe the story if he reposts it.
OK, DEZ, feel like discussing? Remember, I'm one of the EHS&S officers in my lab.
/
| 665 |
MJ Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:57:43pm |
How do you like this headline:
Obama To Meet With Liberals
Liberal Democrats in the House will get their wish: President Obama will meet with them face to face Tuesday or Wednesday to discuss health reform legislation...
[Link: politics.theatlantic.com...]
And here I thought he met with Liberals every single day.
| 666 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:57:47pm |
re: #653 Charles
I showed you two posts at LGF on the current state of scientific research into the origin of life.
You claimed that "every scrap of evidence in the world" supported your view that it's impossible for life to arise from inorganic matter, and then couldn't come up with a single example. Now you're accusing me of operating on "faith," even though it's you who made a claim with absolutely no evidence behind it.
you posted two articles filled with conjecture and supposition as relating the origin of life, not scientific evidence. if someone with a different opinion used those tactics, you'd be screaming "CREATIONIST" and demanding absolute proof.
| 667 |
solomonpanting Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:57:50pm |
re: #633 jamgarr
Biden said today that they've "saved or created" 500,000 to 1,000,000 jobs. Yeah, that's the ticket.
I'm still working. Count me 'saved'.
For those who just recently found a job, we'll count you as 'created.' (And here some folks have trouble with creation.)
;/'
| 668 |
snowcrash Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:58:15pm |
| 669 |
Neutral President Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:58:31pm |
re: #645 brookly red
well we can just raise taxes & print some more money... what could go wrong?
I'm pretty sure we will know that one just in time for 2010 elections too.
Democrats will be hosed but, if we have a bunch of howling Paulians running on our side, we wont be better off.
| 671 |
jorline Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:58:58pm |
re: #657 kcladderman
so that means you got about an hour then huh?
lol...not touching that one kc.
Thought I would do a little of this.
| 672 |
yochanan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:59:01pm |
re: #646 Sharmuta
frankly I wish this was the only thing in the world to debate.
oh well.
| 673 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:59:02pm |
re: #603 acwgusa
I didn't know weasel and grovel was a twin-track approach. Or is that appease and surrender?
No, it's roll-over and play dead with the Iranians buying the option of changing the EU from play to reality.
| 674 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:59:44pm |
re: #641 OldLineTexan
How's the digit, old man?
Its still painful, but pain in this case is a good thing.
| 675 |
Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 3:59:56pm |
| 676 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:00:03pm |
re: #662 ArchangelMichael
Well right now, I know that gold and silver are again flirting with the highs. I've heard equally convincing arguments for both a pullback and a continued rally at this point. I'm not so sure about platinum though. Haven't paid enough attention to it because I cant afford it as physical holdings (at least not enough to make the purchase worth all the hoops) and there's no ETF for it that I know of.
There are platinum ETFs and ETNs, but you can't buy them as a US citizen.
| 677 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:00:10pm |
re: #648 jorline
The four females aren't ready to go yet...I was given another 10 minutes to play in the sandbox.
I'm skipping football tonight ... away game in Conroe. Too far to ride my unicorn.
Next Friday (Sept. 11) is the annual Patriotic Show ... it's the kind of stoopid sentimental crap we right-wing gun-toting hicks in teh sticks do sometimes. I have two daughers entangled in the festivities, which includes (I hear) a football game.
;)
| 678 |
Fenway_Nation Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:00:16pm |
re: #662 ArchangelMichael
There might be an ETF for platinum on the London exchange, but I'm not sure about the name or symbol.
| 679 |
jorline Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:00:24pm |
re: #658 HoosierHoops
It's always nice seeing you again...Be well and have a great time my friend
Good seeing you Hoopster. We'll have a great time...thanks.
Dancing tonight with Mrs. Hoopster?
| 680 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:00:32pm |
re: #666 TradeBait
you posted two articles filled with conjecture and supposition as relating the origin of life, not scientific evidence. if someone with a different opinion used those tactics, you'd be screaming "CREATIONIST" and demanding absolute proof.
This is not "conjecture" -- it's based on experimental evidence:
The new findings map out a series of simple, efficient chemical reactions that could have formed molecules of RNA, a close cousin of DNA, from the basic materials available more than 3.85 billion years ago, researchers report online May 13 in Nature.
“This is a very impressive piece of work — a really excellent analysis,” comments chemist James Ferris of the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, N.Y.
The new research lends support to the idea that RNA-based life-forms were the first step toward the evolution of modern life. Called the RNA world hypothesis, the idea was first proposed some 40 years ago. But until now, scientists couldn’t figure out the chemical reactions that created the earliest RNA molecules.
You do understand the difference between "conjecture" and "experimental evidence," don't you?
| 681 |
calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:01:01pm |
| 682 |
opnion Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:01:17pm |
re: #572 shanec99
Hell I want one of them high payin' jobs in DC,
I bet you if I got one of them and was involved in a scandal I could get fired and write a book about how unfair it all was.
I will be rolling in the dough.
Please tell me where I can sign.
Shane 99, next Oprah!
| 683 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:02:03pm |
re: #664 OldLineTexan
You are NOT going to believe the story if he reposts it.
OK, DEZ, feel like discussing? Remember, I'm one of the EHS&S officers in my lab.
/
I just cant put my finger on it. ;)
| 684 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:02:23pm |
re: #680 Charles
You do understand the difference between "conjecture" and "experimental evidence," don't you?
i understand that a strand of RNA is about as close to being a living entity as the earth is to being the entirety of the universe.
| 685 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:02:43pm |
re: #681 calcajun
Carbon Bigfoot is ripping us off?
Where is Sasquatch when you absolutely, positively need him.
;-)
| 686 |
shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:03:13pm |
| 687 |
Neutral President Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:03:24pm |
re: #676 John Neverbend
There are platinum ETFs and ETNs, but you can't buy them as a US citizen.
I can trade on the London or Toronto exchanges if that's the issue. I just cant trade options or futures on them. I haven't ever done it though because I have to pay extra for the data access.
| 688 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:03:28pm |
re: #685 callahan23
Where is Sasquatch when you absolutely, positively need him.
;-)
Doing something abominable. ;)
| 689 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:03:43pm |
re: #684 TradeBait
i understand that a strand of RNA is about as close to being a living entity as the earth is to being the entirety of the universe.
Now you're not even making any sense. RNA is one of the most basic building blocks of organic life.
| 690 |
calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:03:54pm |
| 691 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:04:17pm |
| 692 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:04:17pm |
re: #678 Fenway_Nation
There might be an ETF for platinum on the London exchange, but I'm not sure about the name or symbol.
Right. There's something in London (I think it's an ETN but there may also be an ETF) and an ETF in Switzerland, but a US resident can't invest in them.
| 693 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:04:19pm |
re: #683 DEZes
I just cant put my finger on it. ;)
Tell snowcrash it's OK, you lived.
One has to understand industrial mishaps. If no one is permanently unable to work, we fill out fifty-eight forms and punish the innocent!
| 694 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:04:30pm |
re: #679 jorline
Good seeing you Hoopster. We'll have a great time...thanks.
Dancing tonight with Mrs. Hoopster?
Hi Jorline..She has been working nights for months now doing Logistics...
I'm thinking this weekend there will be food, Beer, Dancing and much fun..Did you know Jordan is now out of the Marines?
| 695 |
Fenway_Nation Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:04:39pm |
And in sports news, TradeBait was traded for cash considerations and two trolls to be named later
//
| 696 |
Neutral President Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:04:54pm |
re: #684 TradeBait
i understand that a strand of RNA is about as close to being a living entity as the earth is to being the entirety of the universe.
Yeah because it's not like life is made up of long chained organic molecules that self-replicate or anything.
/
| 697 |
jorline Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:05:11pm |
re: #663 midwestgak
Enjoy the game? If your son is playing tonight, which position?
{gak}
My son plays basketball and baseball for the hs. He has no interest in football...looks at me with eight knee surgeries, two shoulder surgeries and said screw that. Smart kid!
| 698 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:05:13pm |
re: #689 Charles
Now you're not even making any sense. RNA is one of the most basic building blocks of organic life.
RNA is one component of a living cell, there are literally thousands of others. remove any one of them, working in conjunction, and you don't have "life," you simply have yet another pile of inorganic material.
| 699 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:05:19pm |
| 700 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:06:06pm |
re: #698 TradeBait
RNA is one component of a living cell, there are literally thousands of others. remove any one of them, working in conjunction, and you don't have "life," you simply have yet another pile of inorganic material.
Really? And you know this ... how?
| 701 |
calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:06:33pm |
re: #696 ArchangelMichael
Yeah because it's not like life is made up of long chained organic molecules that self-replicate or anything.
/
Why are we here? What's life all about?
Is God really real, or is there some doubt?
Well, tonight, we're going to sort it all out,
For, tonight, it's 'The Meaning of Life'.
What's the point of all this hoax?
Is it the chicken and the egg time? Are we just yolks?
Or, perhaps, we're just one of God's little jokes.
Well, ça c'est 'The Meaning of Life'.
Is life just a game where we make up the rules
While we're searching for something to say,
Or are we just simply spiralling coils
Of self-replicating DN-- nay, nay, nay, nay, nay, nay, nay.
What is life? What is our fate?
Is there a Heaven and Hell? Do we reincarnate?
Is mankind evolving, or is it too late?
Well, tonight, here's 'The Meaning of Life'.
For millions, this 'life' is a sad vale of tears,
Sitting 'round with really nothing to say
While the scientists say we're just simply spiralling coils
Of self-replicating DN-- nay, nay, nay, nay, nay, nay, nay.
So, just why-- why are we here,
And just what-- what-- what-- what do we fear?
Well, ce soir, for a change, it will all be made clear,
For this is 'The Meaning of Life'. C'est le sens de la vie.
This is 'The Meaning of Life'.
| 703 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:06:51pm |
re: #693 OldLineTexan
Tell snowcrash it's OK, you lived.
One has to understand industrial mishaps. If no one is permanently unable to work, we fill out fifty-eight forms and punish the innocent!
I will be fine, but I might start telling people I was picking my nose when I rear ended another car, just to see their reaction. ;)
| 704 |
calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:07:02pm |
| 706 |
snowcrash Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:07:17pm |
re: #693 OldLineTexan
Ok confession time. I was being a jerk cause it was Diego. lol
| 707 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:07:22pm |
re: #699 OldLineTexan
re: #690 calcajun
And Yeti he is still highly regarded.
He's always near, just out of focus.
Great LOLs.
| 708 |
Wendya Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:08:13pm |
re: #616 TradeBait
those are quite interesting, but they prove nothing. the key phrases are "could have" and "it's plausible." those hardly qualify as empirical scientific data.
Uh-huh.
It may not prove anything to your satisfaction but at least they're looking for answers in the natural world instead of sitting on their asses saying
God did it!
| 709 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:08:14pm |
re: #666 TradeBait
you posted two articles filled with conjecture and supposition as relating the origin of life, not scientific evidence. if someone with a different opinion used those tactics, you'd be screaming "CREATIONIST" and demanding absolute proof.
You said:
Charles, you know full well that there is no scientific evidence that life can arise from inanimate material. if it were otherwise, i'm sure i would have read about it by now.
The articles show that the emergence of life from non living matter is scientifically plausible and demonstrate detailed biochemical research which shows how key steps likely occurred. That answers your question whether you like it or not (and you obviously don't).
| 710 |
acwgusa Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:08:35pm |
Whoops! I think the AP just let the truth slip out!
| 711 |
right_on_target Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:08:38pm |
re: #684 TradeBait
i understand that a strand of RNA is about as close to being a living entity as the earth is to being the entirety of the universe.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
YOUR understanding. Not mine.
| 712 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:08:57pm |
re: #697 jorline
{gak}
My son plays basketball and baseball for the hs. He has no interest in football...looks at me with eight knee surgeries, two shoulder surgeries and said screw that. Smart kid!
I love it your boy plays ball...That is so cool.. Take more pics..I have more to send you...Have a great time tonight!
| 713 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:09:02pm |
re: #703 DEZes
I will be fine, but I might start telling people I was picking my nose when I rear ended another car, just to see their reaction. ;)
We have you and Mr. Pinky-Bobbed Face-Puncher now, to remind us to Keep Our Hands To Ourselves.
/
| 714 |
Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:09:14pm |
re: #639 TradeBait
the absence of any scientific data to prove otherwise is my evidence. simply assuming that something is possible without any demonstrable evidence to back it up is more akin to faith than science.
So in your brain because there is no evidence of something then the opposite is true, and the very absence of any evidence is your only evidence.
That is what I think both theologians and scientists would call total unadulterated simple-minded bullshit.
| 715 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:09:49pm |
re: #665 MJ
How do you like this headline:
Obama To Meet With Liberals
[Link: politics.theatlantic.com...]
And here I thought he met with Liberals every single day.
Kids Day or Dumb Day?
| 716 |
jorline Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:09:52pm |
re: #694 HoosierHoops
Hi Jorline..She has been working nights for months now doing Logistics...
I'm thinking this weekend there will be food, Beer, Dancing and much fun..Did you know Jordan is now out of the Marines?
Have a great time...1st weekend of college football...YEA!
I didn't hear about Jordan...that's great news. Is he coming home and didn't he just get married? Hopefully they don't call him back.
Please thank Jordan for his service for me.
| 717 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:09:56pm |
re: #700 Charles
Really? And you know this ... how?
re: #709 Jimmah
The articles show that the emergence of life from non living matter is scientifically plausible and demonstrate detailed biochemical research which shows how key steps likely occurred. That answers your question whether you like it or not (and you obviously don't).
there's that darn "plausible" word again.
| 718 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:10:02pm |
re: #687 ArchangelMichael
I can trade on the London or Toronto exchanges if that's the issue. I just cant trade options or futures on them. I haven't ever done it though because I have to pay extra for the data access.
Are you a US resident? There was some reason connected to my residence in the US that prevented me from taking out an investment, but it may have been specific to the issuer of the investment. I think it was a platinum ETN which in this case was a bond with an embedded platinum call option (the option ensured principal protection, providing the issuer didn't default). Perhaps it was the option feature that ruined it, but I seem to remember reading that the Swiss ETF (not a bond) had similar restrictions. Anyway, maybe the rules have changed, and it might be worth revisiting it.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:10:33pm |
re: #706 snowcrash
go to your room, and do NOT come out until you can play nicely
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snowcrash Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:10:39pm |
re: #713 OldLineTexan
Funny coincidence it happened on the same day. just sayin'
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:11:36pm |
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:11:43pm |
re: #706 snowcrash
Ok confession time. I was being a jerk cause it was Diego. lol
I just took it you had my back, thanks.
I doubt Diego meant it as an insult, he most likely had no idea I was injured.
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TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:11:47pm |
re: #714 Spare O'Lake
So in your brain because there is no evidence of something then the opposite is true, and the very absence of any evidence is your only evidence.
That is what I think both theologians and scientists would call total unadulterated simple-minded bullshit.
i never said it was "impossible", just that it is not proven.
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itellu3times Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:12:35pm |
George Mitchell, Obama's special envoy to Israel, is a prominent Arab-American?!
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Mitchell's father, George John Mitchell, Sr., was of ethnic Irish descent but was adopted by a Lebanese family[citation needed]. He was a janitor at Colby College. Mitchell's mother, Mary Saad, was a textile worker who emigrated to the United States from Bkassine, Lebanon at the age of eighteen. Because of his origin and political ties, he is recognized as a prominent Arab-American.
Who knew? Not me.
Regarding, of course, US harshly rebukes Israel on settlement plans.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:12:47pm |
re: #717 TradeBait
there's that darn "plausible" word again.
The definition of "plausible:" seeming reasonable or probable.
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yochanan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:12:51pm |
[Link: www.chicagobreakingnews.com...]
started out as a drug bust ended up with major weapons violations, including TNT and a rocket launcher with live rounds.
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CyanSnowHawk Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:12:55pm |
re: #558 Killian Bundy
Hey, that link looks familiar.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:13:11pm |
re: #720 snowcrash
Funny coincidence it happened on the same day. just sayin'
Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
/
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Wendya Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:13:40pm |
re: #723 TradeBait
i never said it was "impossible", just that it is not proven.
Do you have a competing scientific theory that explains it to your satisfaction?
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OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:14:15pm |
re: #726 yochanan
[Link: www.chicagobreakingnews.com...]
started out as a drug bust ended up with major weapons violations, including TNT and a rocket launcher with live rounds.
But Chicago outlawed GUNZ! And Illinois has the FOID! This is obviously FALSE!
| 732 |
jorline Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:14:15pm |
BBL
Just told to get off the laptop...females are now waiting on me...SHEEH!
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Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:14:36pm |
re: #723 TradeBait
i never said it was "impossible", just that it is not proven.
No, you didn't just say it was "not proven." You made a categorical denial:
Charles, you know full well that there is no scientific evidence that life can arise from inanimate material.
I showed you that this is simply not true.
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Neutral President Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:14:54pm |
re: #718 John Neverbend
Are you a US resident? There was some reason connected to my residence in the US that prevented me from taking out an investment, but it may have been specific to the issuer of the investment. I think it was a platinum ETN which in this case was a bond with an embedded platinum call option (the option ensured principal protection, providing the issuer didn't default). Perhaps it was the option feature that ruined it, but I seem to remember reading that the Swiss ETF (not a bond) had similar restrictions. Anyway, maybe the rules have changed, and it might be worth revisiting it.
Yeah I'm a US resident but my broker will give me access to London, Australia, Toronto, etc. at the click of a button + fees for the data stream. However, just that doesn't necessarily mean I can buy it. I might not know for sure until I put in a PHPT order and try to click buy before it tells me to pound sand. I'll have to research it more, all it says on the configuration screen for selecting access to other markets is "US Residents may not trade options outside of the US" or something to that effect.
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snowcrash Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:14:59pm |
re: #722 DEZes
"I just took it you had my back, thanks."
I do, but it was still fun.
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:15:00pm |
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:15:14pm |
re: #728 OldLineTexan
Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
Sure, Brain. But how are we going to get stretch pants on a holstein cow?
/NARF!
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:15:23pm |
ok... I am begining to wonder if this thred is gonna become another thread on creationism?
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:15:39pm |
re: #723 TradeBait
i never said it was "impossible", just that it is not proven.
The record will speak for itself.
I rest my case.
Have a great weekend everyone.
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DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:15:47pm |
re: #735 snowcrash
"I just took it you had my back, thanks."
I do, but it was still fun.
Fun is on the menu.
And I have a case of beer to prove it.
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wrenchwench Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:15:50pm |
re: #726 yochanan
[Link: www.chicagobreakingnews.com...]
started out as a drug bust ended up with major weapons violations, including TNT and a rocket launcher with live rounds.
Looks like...Illinois Nazis! Everyone's favorite!
| 742 |
Noam Sayin' Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:16:02pm |
It's like stepping into a boxing match and having a hockey game break out.
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TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:16:16pm |
re: #725 Charles
The definition of "plausible:" seeming reasonable or probable.
"seeming"
according to the best scientific opinions available in the 16th century it was "plausible" that maggots self-generated from piles of rotting meat. the fact that it was "plausible" in the absence of scientific evidence didn't make it true, simply ... plausible.
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yochanan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:16:26pm |
re: #731 OldLineTexan
i don't think the 2ed amendment applies to stolen marine rocket launchers & TNT to to mention army field manuals on how to make TNT BOMBS and how to make semi auto guns into full auto.
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KingKenrod Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:16:44pm |
re: #726 yochanan
[Link: www.chicagobreakingnews.com...]
started out as a drug bust ended up with major weapons violations, including TNT and a rocket launcher with live rounds.
Sounds like drug running nazi assholes. The old guy looks like Odin.
| 746 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:16:51pm |
re: #739 Spare O'Lake
The record will speak for itself.
I rest my case.
Have a great weekend everyone.
Best wishes and gut Shabbes.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:16:53pm |
re: #738 shanec99
ok... I am begining to wonder if this thred is gonna become another thread on creationism?
It could evolve into one.
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acwgusa Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:17:00pm |
re: #728 OldLineTexan
Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
/
Yes, Brain, but how would the woodchucks pilot the balloon even if they could get a hold of one?
| 749 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:17:47pm |
re: #698 TradeBait
RNA is one component of a living cell, there are literally thousands of others. remove any one of them, working in conjunction, and you don't have "life," you simply have yet another pile of inorganic material.
The 'irreducible complexity' argument has been destroyed over and over again. Why don't you try to cure your ignorance, instead of going on forums and making an arse of yourself like this?
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OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:18:18pm |
re: #744 yochanan
i don't think the 2ed amendment applies to stolen marine rocket launchers & TNT to to mention army field manuals on how to make TNT BOMBS and how to make semi auto guns into full auto.
You're telling me all those weapons LAWS don't stop criminal behavior?
/shocked and appalled, I am
/ps - the field manuals are legal
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Fenway_Nation Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:18:19pm |
re: #744 yochanan
Does anybody remember that douchebag columnist in Virginia who published the home adresses of local CCW holders in his column and compared them to sex offenders?
| 752 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:18:25pm |
re: #730 Wendya
Do you have a competing scientific theory that explains it to your satisfaction?
no, i have a belief system that allows me to entertain the notion that there might be super-intelligent forces outside the material universe of which we are, at present, unaware. and no, i don't have any proof ... just an open mind.
| 753 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:18:50pm |
re: #743 TradeBait
"seeming"
according to the best scientific opinions available in the 16th century it was "plausible" that maggots self-generated from piles of rotting meat. the fact that it was "plausible" in the absence of scientific evidence didn't make it true, simply ... plausible.
Now you're going to reach back 500 years?
Do you think it's plausible that science might have made a few advances since the 16th century?
| 754 |
SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:19:27pm |
| 756 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:19:41pm |
re: #726 yochanan
[Link: www.chicagobreakingnews.com...]
started out as a drug bust ended up with major weapons violations, including TNT and a rocket launcher with live rounds.
Yikes.
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shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:19:41pm |
re: #747 Killgore Trout
It could evolve into one.
well if it does,I am gonna make like a single celled organism... and split.
| 759 |
acwgusa Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:20:07pm |
re: #752 TradeBait
no, i have a belief system that allows me to entertain the notion that there might be super-intelligent forces outside the material universe of which we are, at present, unaware. and no, i don't have any proof ... just an open mind.
Wow, that was so circular, you could slap a K in it, and have a convenience store.
| 760 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:20:20pm |
| 761 |
Neutral President Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:20:22pm |
re: #743 TradeBait
"seeming"
according to the best scientific opinions available in the 16th century it was "plausible" that maggots self-generated from piles of rotting meat. the fact that it was "plausible" in the absence of scientific evidence didn't make it true, simply ... plausible.
I take it back. I'll print this one out and laugh when I'm having a bad day.
| 762 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:20:40pm |
re: #749 Jimmah
The 'irreducible complexity' argument has been destroyed over and over again. Why don't you try to cure your ignorance, instead of going on forums and making an arse of yourself like this?
so, where's that lab-generated life that would absolutely prove this? charles likes examples.
| 763 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:20:54pm |
re: #752 TradeBait
no, i have a belief system that allows me to entertain the notion that there might be super-intelligent forces outside the material universe of which we are, at present, unaware. and no, i don't have any proof ... just an open mind.
Uh huh. There it is. God did it!
| 765 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:21:08pm |
| 766 |
snowcrash Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:21:09pm |
re: #755 DEZes
Dude, that isn't saying much, considering. Take the pain pills it will get better. lol
| 767 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:21:12pm |
| 768 |
Neutral President Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:21:17pm |
re: #759 acwgusa
Wow, that was so circular, you could slap a K in it, and have a convenience store.
Strange things are afoot there though.
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TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:21:43pm |
re: #753 Charles
Now you're going to reach back 500 years?
Do you think it's plausible that science might have made a few advances since the 16th century?
uhhh, yah. i think so. but, i don't think they quite have all the answers yet. or if so, they're keeping awfully quiet about it.
| 770 |
wrenchwench Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:21:57pm |
re: #752 TradeBait
i don't have any proof ... just an open mind.
...where the wind comes sweeping down the plain...
| 771 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:22:18pm |
re: #762 TradeBait
so, where's that lab-generated life that would absolutely prove this? charles likes examples.
Why don't you take the effort you're putting into these spurious and empty arguments, and use it to come up with one tiny little example that would prove your claim that "every scrap of evidence in the whole world" proves life can't arise from inorganic matter?
| 772 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:22:23pm |
re: #734 ArchangelMichael
I'll have to research it more, all it says on the configuration screen for selecting access to other markets is "US Residents may not trade options outside of the US" or something to that effect.
I started with a search for all ETF and ETN issuers then narrowed it down by commodity. If I remember correctly, companies like Morningstar provide fairly extensive surveys. Platinum is interesting in that nearly 80% of the world's production comes from just one country, South Africa. So, in theory, you can identify ebbs and flows in the supply chain by keeping an eye on developments in that country. For example, 1-2 years ago, it became apparent that the South African electricity provider Eskom was not going to be able to supply enough electricity to mining operations, and this caused a brief jump in the price of platinum on fears of a drop in supply. Of course, it's not that simple. There are other factors such as industrial use of platinum , risk of substitution...so I'm none the wiser.
| 773 |
itellu3times Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:22:31pm |
re: #752 TradeBait
no, i have a belief system that allows me to entertain the notion that there might be super-intelligent forces outside the material universe of which we are, at present, unaware. and no, i don't have any proof ... just an open mind.
It's the white mice, who contracted with the Magretheans to have the Earth built. It's all there in the word of Adams.
| 774 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:22:35pm |
| 775 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:22:46pm |
| 776 |
yochanan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:23:03pm |
re: #765 OldLineTexan
my first wife used to use the term dynamiting for fish i guess these two had other fish in mind wonder if said fish look like me.
| 777 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:23:05pm |
re: #752 TradeBait
... and no, i don't have any proof ... just an open mind.
Gaahh, the same line is employed on me from the extreme-green, the estherics, the UFO fanatics, the conspiracy theorists and all manner of fact resistant loons.
I ... am ... sick ... of ... it !
| 778 |
unrealizedviewpoint Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:23:08pm |
re: #751 Fenway_Nation
Does anybody remember that douchebag columnist in Virginia who published the home adresses of local CCW holders in his column and compared them to sex offenders?
Similar situation?
[Link: www.nraila.org...]
CommercialAppeal.com, has posted Tennessee’s right to carry permit holder list online! CommercialAppeal.com apparently feels that the “public’s right to know” outweighs your right to privacy. Their irresponsible decision to publish this list has made it easier for criminals to target law-abiding gun owners.
Shockingly when the list was first published, it even included permit holders' home address! However, bowing to criticism, CommercialAppeal.com removed the address but still included a permit holder’s full name, birth date, city, zip code, and the issue and expiration date of their permit.
| 779 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:23:53pm |
re: #769 TradeBait
uhhh, yah. i think so. but, i don't think they quite have all the answers yet. or if so, they're keeping awfully quiet about it.
Just because science doesn't have all the answers, it doesn't mean it has NO answers.
Come on now. If "every scrap of evidence" is on your side, there must be evidence just laying around right out in the open, for you to pick up and show us. So where is it?
| 780 |
shanec99 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:23:55pm |
nite folks... take care.
The ole Jamaican Iguana needs some beauty rest.
| 781 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:24:08pm |
re: #771 Charles
Why don't you take the effort you're putting into these spurious and empty arguments, and use it to come up with one tiny little example that would prove your claim that "every scrap of evidence in the whole world" proves life can't arise from inorganic matter?
Nope - he called 'magic', so he wins.
You didn't call 'magic' first, so you lose.
| 782 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:24:11pm |
re: #777 callahan23
Gaahh, the same line is employed on me from the extreme-green, the estherics, the UFO fanatics, the conspiracy theorists and all manner of fact resistant loons.
I ... am ... sick ... of ... it !
Its like arguing with my cats, except they seem to listen.
| 783 |
acwgusa Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:24:43pm |
re: #752 TradeBait
.. just an open mind.
Make that an open skull, your brain left for smarter pastures.
| 784 |
wrenchwench Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:24:58pm |
re: #777 callahan23
Gaahh, the same line is employed on me from the extreme-green, the estherics, the UFO fanatics, the conspiracy theorists and all manner of fact resistant loons.
I ... am ... sick ... of ... it !
And do you likewise instantly think about brains falling to the floor from such openness?
| 785 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:24:59pm |
re: #698 TradeBait
RNA is one component of a living cell, there are literally thousands of others. remove any one of them, working in conjunction, and you don't have "life," you simply have yet another pile of inorganic material.
Oh my! Is that your position?
So it's the combo not the material? Take out one chemical it's a lump of clay?
It's a fact..There is not chemical in your body not created by a type 1A supernova...It's impossible to create the chemicals that you exist of except within the power of a Sun..And spread them through a Nova event...
And yet because we don't understand the building blocks yet of natural chemicals that there was some super duper magic involved...When in all of history has that ever happened? Name a white paper...
When I was a young man I read an author that said God doesn't create the flower..He created the processes to allow flowers to evolve themselves.
I think God made the Big Bang..But from there Nature and it's laws created all things and from there all things evolved...God isn't creating the flower in your back yard..He allowed nature to create it...From the laws at 1 millionth of a second at creation and the big bang...Nature evolved and expanded...apparently including intelligent life..Oh so I hear..
Be well
| 786 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:25:02pm |
re: #776 yochanan
my first wife used to use the term dynamiting for fish i guess these two had other fish in mind wonder if said fish look like me.
yoch, I was using sarcasm.
However, dynamite is not a very selective weapon.
| 787 |
Wendya Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:25:07pm |
re: #752 TradeBait
no, i have a belief system that allows me to entertain the notion that there might be super-intelligent forces outside the material universe of which we are, at present, unaware. and no, i don't have any proof ... just an open mind.
Would your belief system hold up under the scientific method?
| 788 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:25:08pm |
re: #763 Charles
Uh huh. There it is. God did it!
well, give me proof that "God", or whomever, didn't do it. aren't you the one who always demands proof? how about a little from your end?
| 789 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:25:52pm |
re: #788 TradeBait
well, give me proof that "God", or whomever, didn't do it. aren't you the one who always demands proof? how about a little from your end?
And now the demand to prove a negative. At least your real agenda is starting to show.
| 790 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:25:57pm |
re: #788 TradeBait
well, give me proof that "God", or whomever, didn't do it. aren't you the one who always demands proof? how about a little from your end?
Who wants to take this one?
YOU DON"T HAVE TO PROVE A NEGATIVE!
| 791 |
acwgusa Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:26:07pm |
re: #788 TradeBait
well, give me proof that "God", or whomever, didn't do it. aren't you the one who always demands proof? how about a little from your end?
You're asking to prove a negative, which is impossible.
| 792 |
Fenway_Nation Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:26:25pm |
re: #782 DEZes
Are you sure they aren't just staring intently at some nonexistanat speck in your immediate vicinity?
| 793 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:27:18pm |
re: #771 Charles
Why don't you take the effort you're putting into these spurious and empty arguments, and use it to come up with one tiny little example that would prove your claim that "every scrap of evidence in the whole world" proves life can't arise from inorganic matter?
i never said that. i said that there is no current scientific evidence that "can prove it." not disprove it. you're being disingenuous.
| 794 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:27:36pm |
re: #792 Fenway_Nation
Are you sure they aren't just staring intently at some nonexistanat speck in your immediate vicinity?
Could be but my point is, they act like they listen. ;)
| 795 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:27:47pm |
re: #792 Fenway_Nation
Are you sure they aren't just staring intently at some nonexistanat speck in your immediate vicinity?
we r plotten teh rebolooshun
teh fud munkee gits 2 liv
/
| 796 |
iceman1960 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:28:10pm |
Huffpo posted a photo of a dying marine on their front page from AP.
These people have no shame.
| 797 |
yochanan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:28:47pm |
re: #786 OldLineTexan
i got the sarcasm i was just tell a Iowa farm girl joke.
a girl dynamiting for fish is going to town with too much make-up and perfume
| 798 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:28:51pm |
re: #784 wrenchwench
And do you likewise instantly think about brains falling to the floor from such openness?
Yep. - Tiny, tiny little brainses that are able to roll out of the ears.
;-)
| 799 |
Fenway_Nation Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:29:03pm |
re: #795 OldLineTexan
Teh kitties often talk of the upcoming war between man and the brotherhood of machines felines...
| 801 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:29:27pm |
re: #798 callahan23
Yep. - Tiny, tiny little brainses that are able to roll out of the ears.
;-)
The zombies are starving.
| 802 |
avanti Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:29:33pm |
NBC news led off the evening news with a report on the dust up over the POTUS student speech. After showing Reagan and other POTUS's addressing school kids, they tried to find out what the difference was and why no one on the right speaks out for moderation. The general conclusion was that the 24 hours news cycle can whip up the partisan fury more so then in the past and the parties use it shamelessly.
| 803 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:29:35pm |
re: #789 Charles
And now the demand to prove a negative. At least your real agenda is starting to show.
you're very paranoid, charles. i came in today to test my new internet connection, not to promote an agenda. you're the one who engaged in the "creationist" debate. i'm really quite an open-minded person.
| 804 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:29:56pm |
re: #793 TradeBait
i never said that. i said that there is no current scientific evidence that "can prove it." not disprove it. you're being disingenuous.
Quote:
Charles, you know full well that there is no scientific evidence that life can arise from inanimate material.
It's not true. I showed you that there is indeed scientific evidence that life can arise from inorganic material. More than a little evidence, in fact. If you cared to educate yourself, you could look into the current state of scientific research on this matter.
| 805 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:30:04pm |
re: #796 iceman1960
Huffpo posted a photo of a dying marine on their front page from AP.
These people have no shame.
Maybe their readers need to see what keeps them free to "Speak Troof to Power" when they climb up the basement stairs.
| 806 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:30:21pm |
re: #796 iceman1960
Huffpo posted a photo of a dying marine on their front page from AP.
These people have no shame.
No! do not say that...That is horrible if true...
| 807 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:30:55pm |
re: #803 TradeBait
you're very paranoid, charles. i came in today to test my new internet connection, not to promote an agenda. you're the one who engaged in the "creationist" debate. i'm really quite an open-minded person.
Oh, sure you are!
Of course, keep posting - this is actually entertaining for us! Especially while we're drinking.
| 808 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:31:40pm |
re: #803 TradeBait
you're very paranoid, charles. i came in today to test my new internet connection, not to promote an agenda. you're the one who engaged in the "creationist" debate. i'm really quite an open-minded person.
No, actually, you're the one who made a completely ignorant claim, then failed utterly to back it up. Then you ignored the evidence that was presented to you.
But go ahead, keep congratulating yourself on your wonderfully open mind.
| 809 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:31:53pm |
re: #805 OldLineTexan
Maybe their readers need to see what keeps them free to "Speak Troof to Power" when they climb up the basement stairs.
They would say they do it in the name of balance - of course, they never show any pictures of troops when they do anything good.
| 810 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:31:54pm |
re: #782 DEZes
Its like arguing with my cats, except they seem to listen.
Mine understands me completely.
/
| 811 |
wrenchwench Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:32:03pm |
re: #807 Dreader1962
Oh, sure you are!
Of course, keep posting - this is actually entertaining for us! Especially while we're drinking.
I knew I was missing something...
| 812 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:32:29pm |
| 813 |
jcm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:33:02pm |
re: #788 TradeBait
well, give me proof that "God", or whomever, didn't do it. aren't you the one who always demands proof? how about a little from your end?
If you prove God "did it," where does that leave faith? Which is more important in a relationship or understanding of the creator, faith or knowledge?
| 814 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:33:43pm |
re: #808 Charles
No, actually, you're the one who made a completely ignorant claim, then failed utterly to back it up. Then you ignored the evidence that was presented to you.
But go ahead, keep congratulating yourself on your wonderfully open mind.
no no, my friend. you're very first post when i happened in was "creationist." i didn't broach the subject and had no intention of doing so.
| 815 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:33:45pm |
re: #802 avanti
NBC news led off the evening news with a report on the dust up over the POTUS student speech. After showing Reagan and other POTUS's addressing school kids, they tried to find out what the difference was and why no one on the right speaks out for moderation. The general conclusion was that the 24 hours news cycle can whip up the partisan fury more so then in the past and the parties use it shamelessly.
Questions: Why did CNN studiously ignore the "lesson plan" aspect of this all day?
Did the other POTII issue such lesson plans?
And the news cycle thing? ABSOLUTELY. Welcome to the real gift that Richard Nixon left us.
| 816 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:33:45pm |
re: #621 Ojoe
Hooray! Still burning nearby, fire said to be 42% contained now.
Cooler weather for the weekend.
Glad the Observatory got defended so well!
| 817 |
avanti Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:33:46pm |
re: #806 HoosierHoops
No! do not say that...That is horrible if true...
AP refused to apologize, saying it was part of the story covering the guys unit and the horrors of war. They did wait until after the burial, but I disagree with their decision.
| 818 |
kansas Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:34:12pm |
Good news for a Holiday. Enjoy.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
| 819 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:34:28pm |
re: #814 TradeBait
no no, my friend. you're very first post when i happened in was "creationist." i didn't broach the subject and had no intention of doing so.
People asked why your karma was so negative; I answered.
And now we're seeing why.
| 820 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:35:03pm |
re: #803 TradeBait
you're very paranoid, charles. i came in today to test my new internet connection, not to promote an agenda. you're the one who engaged in the "creationist" debate. i'm really quite an open-minded person.
How fucking rude..Nobody is paranoid..He asked your views and called you out on them..He engaged you with the up most respect on your scientific views and supplied links...
Jeez..I can't wait till you meet Walter...
/Fucking-O unbelievable
| 821 |
Fenway_Nation Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:35:23pm |
re: #802 avanti
OK...put down the pom-poms for a sec and take a long-term strategic view of this.
Even an 0bama cheerleader such as yourself would have to concede that the media has been oversaturated with his presence and imagery lately and he risks the public burning out on him altogether...so instead of pulling back a little, it's more of the same-- this time in schools.
Next prime-time 0bama appearence, how many otherwise on-the-fence Americans are going to see 0bama speaking and say 'Not this guy again' before changing the channel...?
| 822 |
avanti Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:35:29pm |
re: #815 OldLineTexan
Questions: Why did CNN studiously ignore the "lesson plan" aspect of this all day?
Did the other POTII issue such lesson plans?
And the news cycle thing? ABSOLUTELY. Welcome to the real gift that Richard Nixon left us.
The lesson plan was change from help the POTUS with his education goals, to what you can do to help.
| 823 |
Bagua Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:35:47pm |
re: #772 John Neverbend
You may trade Platinum Futures on NYMEX
| 824 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:35:48pm |
re: #819 Charles
People asked why your karma was so negative; I answered.
And now we're seeing why.
I have not down dinged the man/woman.
I feel too sorry for him/her.
| 825 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:36:20pm |
re: #819 Charles
People asked why your karma was so negative; I answered.
And now we're seeing why.
But now he can play the innocent victim card.
| 826 |
Wendya Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:36:37pm |
re: #802 avanti
NBC news led off the evening news with a report on the dust up over the POTUS student speech. After showing Reagan and other POTUS's addressing school kids, they tried to find out what the difference was and why no one on the right speaks out for moderation. The general conclusion was that the 24 hours news cycle can whip up the partisan fury more so then in the past and the parties use it shamelessly.
[Link: pqasb.pqarchiver.com...]
| 828 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:36:42pm |
re: #812 DEZes
Hey buddy, you doing okay today?
Sure do, work sucked big time. But I am in my weekend for 9 1/2 hrs. And nothing is gonna get between me and my weekend. ;-)
How's you doin? - Frriend
| 829 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:36:43pm |
re: #762 TradeBait
so, where's that lab-generated life that would absolutely prove this? charles likes examples.
Coming soon:
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
[Link: www.livescience.com...]
But of course even when this is achieved it will, like everything else in the vast body of evidence for evolution that has been amassed to date, count for nothing with creationists.
| 830 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:36:45pm |
ohhh, okay. well, i really didn't understand the whole "karma" thing. i'm not in here enough to keep up with lingo. just for the record, though, i can and do think about other things and have opinions in other areas.
| 831 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:37:01pm |
re: #822 avanti
The lesson plan was change from help the POTUS with his education goals, to what you can do to help.
Yes, I heard.
That does not answer either question.
| 832 |
kcladderman Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:37:15pm |
re: #806 HoosierHoops
No! do not say that...That is horrible if true...
Yes AP published the photo after the family ask them not to.
| 833 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:37:59pm |
re: #793 TradeBait
i never said that. i said that there is no current scientific evidence that "can prove it." not disprove it. you're being disingenuous.
Projection.
| 834 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:38:03pm |
re: #824 DEZes
I have not down dinged the man/woman.
I feel too sorry for him/her.
save your pity, friend. it neither impresses or engages me. i guess i'm karma-neutral. ;oP
| 835 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:38:03pm |
re: #824 DEZes
I have not down dinged the man/woman.
I feel too sorry for him/her.
I'll fess up - I down-dinged him for the response that he didn't need to post any proof to what he was claiming.
I don't like games like that - it's a blog, not a graffiti wall.
| 836 |
brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:38:03pm |
re: #802 avanti
NBC news led off the evening news with a report on the dust up over the POTUS student speech. After showing Reagan and other POTUS's addressing school kids, they tried to find out what the difference was and why no one on the right speaks out for moderation. The general conclusion was that the 24 hours news cycle can whip up the partisan fury more so then in the past and the parties use it shamelessly.
This is true. And as much as I don't like Obama, it is not so much the idea of the president addressing school children (in fact I think that is good) it is the lesson plan that caused all the fuss.
| 838 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:39:13pm |
re: #835 Dreader1962
I'll fess up - I down-dinged him for the response that he didn't need to post any proof to what he was claiming.
I don't like games like that - it's a blog, not a graffiti wall.
/puts spray can back into baggy-assed shorts
/slinks away
| 839 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:39:43pm |
re: #827 jcm
Hey, DEZes! How the finger?
Its under four pounds of gauze, but it should be fine.
Thanks for asking.re: #834 TradeBait
save your pity, friend. it neither impresses or engages me. i guess i'm karma-neutral. ;oP
I dont remember saying I want to impress you or engage you.
Feel better dipshit?
| 840 |
midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:39:52pm |
re: #810 callahan23
Mine understands me completely.
/
I have complete control of my cats:
1) They eat when I feed them.
2) They purr when I pet them.
3) They, well, that's my list./
| 841 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:40:13pm |
re: #820 HoosierHoops
How fucking rude..Nobody is paranoid..He asked your views and called you out on them..He engaged you with the up most respect on your scientific views and supplied links...
Jeez..I can't wait till you meet Walter...
/Fucking-O unbelievable
How about a dose of Sharmuta or a little of Mandy for that matter?
;-)
Hi Hooster my friend. How ya kicking?
| 842 |
avanti Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:40:25pm |
re: #821 Fenway_Nation
OK...put down the pom-poms for a sec and take a long-term strategic view of this.
Even an 0bama cheerleader such as yourself would have to concede that the media has been oversaturated with his presence and imagery lately and he risks the public burning out on him altogether...so instead of pulling back a little, it's more of the same-- this time in schools.
Next prime-time 0bama appearence, how many otherwise on-the-fence Americans are going to see 0bama speaking and say 'Not this guy again' before changing the channel...?
I may be drinking the Kool Aid, but I think Obama is the right guy to talk about the importance of a good education, especially to many minority that think getting a education is not cool. I'm sorry, but I don't see the downside of such a speech from any POTUS.
| 843 |
wrenchwench Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:40:27pm |
re: #830 TradeBait
ohhh, okay. well, i really didn't understand the whole "karma" thing. i'm not in here enough to keep up with lingo. just for the record, though, i can and do think about other things and have opinions in other areas.
Your lack of intellectual honesty on this topic makes me decidedly uncurious about any other opinions you might have.
| 844 |
brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:40:35pm |
re: #799 Fenway_Nation
Teh kitties often talk of the upcoming war between man and the brotherhood of
machinesfelines...
thumbs rule!
| 845 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:40:38pm |
re: #839 DEZes
I dont remember saying I want to impress you or engage you.
Feel better dipshit?
yes, i do, in fact. and thank you for the "intelligent" response, or at least for what passes for one in here.
| 846 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:40:42pm |
| 847 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:40:46pm |
re: #752 TradeBait
no, i have a belief system that allows me to entertain the notion that there might be super-intelligent forces outside the material universe of which we are, at present, unaware. and no, i don't have any proof ... just an open mind.
OK, but this is not a scientific viewpoint. I think that we will one day have a working theory for the origin of life, in other words how we get from non-alive state of matter A to alive (and probably very simple) state of matter B. Thinking purely from a scientific point of view, I think that there is no other logical or even possible explanation other than that life ultimately came from inanimate material. Even if it turns out that life on earth was somehow seeded with already living material from elsewhere, I'd still ask the question about that living material. Where did it come from and what are its origins? Eventually, somewhere in the universe, I'd expect to encounter a primitive life form that came from a prior inanimate state.
| 848 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:41:17pm |
re: #843 wrenchwench
Your lack of intellectual honesty on this topic makes me decidedly uncurious about any other opinions you might have.
noted. and summarily discarded
| 849 |
RainDog Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:41:17pm |
re: #793 TradeBait
Y'know, TradeBait, I don't share your opinion in this matter, but I sure gotta hand it to ya...
You've been standing up alone here for a long time, guy, and without losing your cool.
I'm impressed.
| 850 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:41:41pm |
re: #845 TradeBait
yes, i do, in fact. and thank you for the "intelligent" response, or at least for what passes for one in here.
Watch out insulting DEZ ... he'll give you the finger.
/
| 851 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:41:49pm |
re: #845 TradeBait
yes, i do, in fact. and thank you for the "intelligent" response, or at least for what passes for one in here.
You've been given a number of intelligent responses. Just because those responses made you look like a fool doesn't mean they weren't intelligent.
| 853 |
lincolntf Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:42:50pm |
re: #842 avanti
How do we know Obama knows anything about a "good" education? He's made sure that all we know is the names of the schools he attended. That's not much of an Academic record.
| 854 |
CyanSnowHawk Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:42:52pm |
re: #846 OldLineTexan
$5 says he would use a variant of "prostitute" within three posts.
His self imposed moratorium on Palin comments must be killing him.
/I think it was self imposed and I meant to support him in it, but these stories keep cropping up.
| 855 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:42:53pm |
By the way, it's absolutely typical of creationists to get upset when they're challenged and start spewing insults.
| 856 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:42:55pm |
re: #832 kcladderman
Yes AP published the photo after the family ask them not to.
I'm speechless..
May God grant the family peace and strength in this..Their greatest sorrow and worst tragedy...God bless our Marines tonight...
| 857 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:43:00pm |
re: #845 TradeBait
yes, i do, in fact. and thank you for the "intelligent" response, or at least for what passes for one in here.
Oh how original, now say something about my mom.
| 858 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:43:21pm |
re: #849 RainDog
Y'know, TradeBait, I don't share your opinion in this matter, but I sure gotta hand it to ya...
You've been standing up alone here for a long time, guy, and without losing your cool.
I'm impressed.
Yaay aren't trolls great! Let's have more of that!
| 859 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:43:54pm |
re: #841 callahan23
How about a dose of Sharmuta or a little of Mandy for that matter?
;-)
Hi Hooster my friend. How ya kicking?
What up Stud? Hope today finds you well!
| 860 |
Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:44:25pm |
re: #796 iceman1960
Huffpo posted a photo of a dying marine on their front page from AP.
These people have no shame.
The HuffPo article:
AP Photo Captures Deadly Attack on U.S. Marine in Afghanistan -- Pentagon Protests
Going back to 2002, I have been writing about the shameful reluctance, even refusal, of U.S. media outlets to carry graphic images of the true cost of our wars, to Americans, in Iraq and Afghanistan -- dead or even, in many cases, gravely wounded U.S. soldiers and Marines.
Earlier today, the Associated Press -- bucking the wishes of the Pentagon and the victim's family -- decided to go ahead and transmit such a photo.
It was not a one-off bit of "sensationalism" but part of a tasteful and remarkable tribute package profiling the dead Marine and the experience of the photographer, Julie Jacobson, who was there to capture his final moments before he was gravely injured. He later died, three weeks ago.
Yet Secretary of Defense Gates today blasted the AP for carrying the image, calling it "appalling" and lacking in "common decency" -- and many news outlets (at E&P we are now surveying this) are refusing to run it. Just one example: this paper carried the package but in an editor's note explains that it refused to run the picture finding it in "poor taste." Others, such as the Salt Lake Tribune, have followed this path, deleting the photo from galleries that they run with the story. Some papers such as the St. Petersburg Times and Honolulu Star-Bulletin did carry it online. Top papers such as The New York Times, Washington Post and L.A. Times have carried the AP story, but not the image. The Post even runs an image gallery, without the picture.
"AP journalists document world events every day. Afghanistan is no exception. We feel it is our journalistic duty to show the reality of the war there, however unpleasant and brutal that sometimes is," said Santiago Lyon, the director of photography for AP. But a top Republican on the House Armed Services Committee has tweeted that he agrees with Gates on this issue.
We have published the image at our blog, here. Updates on media using and refusing to use photo here. The New York Times now has a full discussion at its Lens blog. NPR.org decided to carry the photo--but put it behind a warning screen.
I didn't include any of the links form the article. If you feel you need to see it, I'm sure you can look on the AP or one of the papers which carried it.
I can understand why the AP did it. For too long the casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq were treated as numbers, when they were covered at all, even to the point of their return and burial 'being out-of-site, out-of-mind'. I find that disrespectful to those who have given their all for this country. I don't agree with the photo the AP included because the family didn't approve.
| 862 |
avanti Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:44:40pm |
re: #853 lincolntf
How do we know Obama knows anything about a "good" education? He's made sure that all we know is the names of the schools he attended. That's not much of an Academic record.
I'm not answering that question for the 100th time.
| 863 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:44:45pm |
I get back from the library with two books on evolution and find an evolution discussion on the open thread- I love it.
| 864 |
jcm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:44:49pm |
re: #839 DEZes
Its under four pounds of gauze, but it should be fine.
Thanks for asking
Good news!
Can we make fun of your one handed typing yet? ;-P
*It's better than my two handed*
| 865 |
acwgusa Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:45:34pm |
re: #864 jcm
Good news!
Can we make fun of your one handed typing yet? ;-P
*It's better than my two handed*
EWW! TMI! TMI!
| 866 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:45:40pm |
re: #855 Charles
By the way, it's absolutely typical of creationists to get upset when they're challenged and start spewing insults.
wow! you should inform some of your loyalist of that vaunted idea. of course, their rudeness is acceptable because they agree with you.
| 867 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:45:42pm |
re: #864 jcm
Good news!
Can we make fun of your one handed typing yet? ;-P
*It's better than my two handed*
My typing will always suck, so have at it. ;)
| 868 |
Fenway_Nation Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:45:48pm |
re: #842 avanti
At best, it's over-reaching and patronizing.
Actually, it would be a little different if he went to some school in person to adress the students. I mean a loser like Dukakis visited our town during the '88 campaign and it was a pretty big deal at the time...just imagine if a sitting President came to visit.
| 869 |
kcladderman Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:45:58pm |
re: #856 HoosierHoops
I'm speechless..
May God grant the family peace and strength in this..Their greatest sorrow and worst tragedy...God bless our Marines tonight...
Amen.
| 870 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:46:35pm |
re: #823 Bagua
You may trade Platinum Futures on NYMEX
Yes, that's correct, but as far as I know there are no platinum ETFs listed on any US exchange. Futures trading is not for the faint-hearted, and is not a realistic alternative for a small investor, unless you join an investment pool. Buying into an ETF (or buying bullion or coins) is a different story.
| 872 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:47:22pm |
re: #866 TradeBait
wow! you should inform some of your loyalist of that vaunted idea. of course, their rudeness is acceptable because they agree with you.
You called your host disingenuous and the Lizards unintelligent, and you have the gall to say we're rude?
| 873 |
Bagua Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:47:24pm |
re: #718 John Neverbend
Are you a US resident? There was some reason connected to my residence in the US that prevented me from taking out an investment, but it may have been specific to the issuer of the investment. I think it was a platinum ETN which in this case was a bond with an embedded platinum call option (the option ensured principal protection, providing the issuer didn't default). Perhaps it was the option feature that ruined it, but I seem to remember reading that the Swiss ETF (not a bond) had similar restrictions. Anyway, maybe the rules have changed, and it might be worth revisiting it.
One may also trade platinum and palladium via ELEMENTS MLCX Precious Metals Index which is listed on NYSE Euronext the same company which has listed the Credit Suisse Global Warming Index ETN
| 874 |
beens21 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:47:41pm |
re: #262 lawhawk
I posted a video in the spinoffs where Obama answers a question about how to pay for health care, but I have seen no analysis of his plan.
| 875 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:47:55pm |
re: #870 John Neverbend
Yes, that's correct, but as far as I know there are no platinum ETFs listed on any US exchange. Futures trading is not for the faint-hearted, and is not a realistic alternative for a small investor, unless you join an investment pool. Buying into an ETF (or buying bullion or coins) is a different story.
I apparently cornered the market on wooden nickels.
/
| 876 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:47:55pm |
re: #871 jcm
*face palm*
shoulda' know better...
Its the old "is that what you kids are calling it these days".
| 877 |
jcm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:47:58pm |
re: #870 John Neverbend
Yes, that's correct, but as far as I know there are no platinum ETFs listed on any US exchange. Futures trading is not for the faint-hearted, and is not a realistic alternative for a small investor, unless you join an investment pool. Buying into an ETF (or buying bullion or coins) is a different story.
Is there a futures market for meltdowns?
| 878 |
avanti Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:48:00pm |
OK, here's a real issue to debate.
| 879 |
CyanSnowHawk Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:48:05pm |
| 880 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:48:24pm |
re: #861 Gus 802
De planuts r ownlee 6000 yeers ol.
//
Have you got videotape of the first living thing emerging from inanimate material? Gotcha! //
| 881 |
Neutral President Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:48:51pm |
re: #875 OldLineTexan
I apparently cornered the market on wooden nickels.
/
I'll stop telling people not to take them then.
| 882 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:48:52pm |
re: #859 HoosierHoops
What up Stud? Hope today finds you well!
Swell thanks.
How is Winston and you doing? ;-)
| 883 |
Bagua Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:49:02pm |
re: #877 jcm
Is there a futures market for meltdowns?
In fact I am long two contracts at the moment.
| 884 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:49:09pm |
Hell, I've been called worse than "unintelligent" here.
| 885 |
Gus Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:49:24pm |
re: #880 Jimmah
Have you got videotape of the first living thing emerging from inanimate material? Gotcha! //
Like a Higgs boson? Not yet but we're working on it. /
| 886 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:49:29pm |
| 887 |
Fenway_Nation Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:49:36pm |
re: #860 Diego
I whole-hearted disagree, but thank you for providing the link so HuffPo's sanctimonious, smarmy, self-congratulatory, sensationalistic and exploitative article won't be rewarded with increased traffic from here.
| 888 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:50:15pm |
re: #872 Sharmuta
You called your host disingenuous and the Lizards unintelligent, and you have the gall to say we're rude?
that's pretty tame compared to "dumbass" and "dip shit", i would say. but then, who am i to argue with such self-anointed intelligence.
| 889 |
Neutral President Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:50:44pm |
re: #884 OldLineTexan
Hell, I've been called worse than "unintelligent" here.
I was called a sekrit Obama fan because of this:
Ar change lMichael
Seriously...
| 890 |
wrenchwench Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:51:31pm |
re: #878 avanti
OK, here's a real issue to debate.
From that link:
"United States does not accept the legitimacy of continued settlement expansion and we urge that it stop," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said in a statement. "We are working to create a climate in which negotiations can take place, and such actions make it harder to create such a climate."
So now they want Climate Change?
| 891 |
brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:51:34pm |
re: #878 avanti
OK, here's a real issue to debate.
what is to debate... none of our freakin business.
| 892 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:51:36pm |
re: #888 TradeBait
that's pretty tame compared to "dumbass" and "dip shit", i would say. but then, who am i to argue with such self-anointed intelligence.
More insults. So original.
| 893 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:51:43pm |
re: #860 Diego
I didn't include any of the links form the article. If you feel you need to see it, I'm sure you can look on the AP or one of the papers which carried it.
I can understand why the AP did it. For too long the casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq were treated as numbers, when they were covered at all, even to the point of their return and burial 'being out-of-site, out-of-mind'. I find that disrespectful to those who have given their all for this country. I don't agree with the photo the AP included because the family didn't approve.
And I'll tell you that this is total crap. I'm 20 years retired from the Army and I have no need or patience with people who use this excuse to sell photos. Only a dense idiot would not have the imagination to know that people are losing life and limb in these wars. This claim that there is an intent for the administration to keep this 'out of site(sic)' is ridiculous. Are you claiming that Obama is doing this?
| 895 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:52:05pm |
re: #815 OldLineTexan
Questions: Why did CNN studiously ignore the "lesson plan" aspect of this all day?
Did the other POTII issue such lesson plans?
I'm still extremely interested in your take on these questions, avanti.
| 896 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:52:09pm |
re: #882 callahan23
Swell thanks.
How is Winston and you doing? ;-)
Life is great.. I'm glad you are well...It's a big BBQ weekend you know..
click my Icon..Winston and his buddy are hanging in the pool while we cook..
The life of a dog...
| 897 |
Bagua Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:52:23pm |
re: #870 John Neverbend
Yes, that's correct, but as far as I know there are no platinum ETFs listed on any US exchange. Futures trading is not for the faint-hearted, and is not a realistic alternative for a small investor, unless you join an investment pool. Buying into an ETF (or buying bullion or coins) is a different story.
True, but then Options, Stocks, ETFs, etc. are all not for the faint-hearted and full of risks. The question is more the speed of the decline.
| 898 |
Gus Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:52:24pm |
re: #889 ArchangelMichael
I was called a sekrit Obama fan because of this:
Ar change lMichael
Seriously...
I would have never seen that if you didn't point it out.
It's a conspiracy of hidden meanings! /
| 899 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:53:12pm |
| 901 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:53:18pm |
| 902 |
wrenchwench Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:53:18pm |
re: #891 brookly red
what is to debate... none of our freakin business.
Our gov't speaks and it's none of our business?
| 903 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:53:21pm |
re: #889 ArchangelMichael
I was called a sekrit Obama fan because of this:
Ar change lMichael
Seriously...
There's only one site stupid enough to come up with that. Am I right?
| 904 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:53:24pm |
| 905 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:53:30pm |
re: #872 Sharmuta
You called your host disingenuous and the Lizards unintelligent, and you have the gall to say we're rude?
Attack the blog owner, then the entire community, then slink off to an 'Intelligent Design' blog and report victory.
How transparent!
| 907 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:54:06pm |
re: #899 OldLineTexan
It still hurts that your mother thinks that way about me!
/
Here have a beer and an upding.
| 908 |
wrenchwench Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:54:12pm |
| 909 |
Sharmuta Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:54:22pm |
re: #905 Dreader1962
Attack the blog owner, then the entire community, then slink off to an 'Intelligent Design' blog and report victory.
How transparent!
Hey- I wonder if this one is getting extra credit from that school in Texas.
| 910 |
kcladderman Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:54:40pm |
re: #898 Gus 802
I would have never seen that if you didn't point it out.
It's a conspiracy of hidden meanings! /
yes if you play my nic backwards it says
namreddalck
| 911 |
Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:54:43pm |
re: #887 Fenway_Nation
I can see both sides and have talked to solders who are on both sides.
I know it's only anecdotal, but many of the ones I've spoken to feel like they are not treated like humans, but some sort of machines doing a job. They didn't agree that funerals shouldn't be reported even when the family agreed. They don't like how casualties are barely mentioned in the US press.
They don't like that people seem to think/say 'just send more, get the job done' and don't consider that it's human lives they are talking about.
| 912 |
HelloDare Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:54:46pm |
Biden is in charge. Nobody touch anything. Heaven help us is anything goes wrong.
| 913 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:54:58pm |
re: #894 Killgore Trout
Beer!
+1. I vote that this should be the Top-Rated Post.
DEZ, give me 80% of a hand with this ...
/
| 914 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:54:58pm |
re: #905 Dreader1962
Attack the blog owner, then the entire community, then slink off to an 'Intelligent Design' blog and report victory.
How transparent!
you forgot to demonstrate your intelligence by including the labels "dumbass" and "dipshit." please revise
| 915 |
RainDog Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:55:40pm |
re: #902 wrenchwench
Our gov't speaks and it's none of our business?
He was joking, right?
I thought it was funny, at least.
God... maybe he wasn't!
Still funny.
| 916 |
kcladderman Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:55:49pm |
re: #903 Sharmuta
There's only one site stupid enough to come up with that. Am I right?
Thats right JIB JAB
Just trying to lighten the mood :-)
| 917 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:55:51pm |
re: #873 Bagua
One may also trade platinum and palladium via ELEMENTS MLCX Precious Metals Index which is listed on NYSE Euronext the same company which has listed the Credit Suisse Global Warming Index ETN
My last attempt to buy a platinum ETF was about 2 years ago, so this may be a new development. However, I think you get exposure in this case to several precious metals, not just platinum, so you'd have to want that total exposure. I found the prospectus, and it seems to be an ETN with the commodity exposure coming from a rolling futures investment in the underlying metals.
| 918 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:55:58pm |
re: #885 Gus 802
Like a Higgs boson? Not yet but we're working on it. /
LOL good one Gus...Hope you are well
What do you think of the God Particle theory? I think another force in Gravity is involved...I have no proof...
But hell...If tradebait can say anything without proof why can't I? It's a free country..*wink*
| 919 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:56:35pm |
re: #913 OldLineTexan
+1. I vote that this should be the Top-Rated Post.
DEZ, give me 80% of a hand with this ...
/
LOL.
| 920 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:56:47pm |
| 921 |
irongrampa Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:57:06pm |
I do SO wish the left would take their "support" for our troops and SHOVE IT until they choke on it.
Fucking grave dancers.
| 922 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:57:14pm |
re: #909 Sharmuta
Hey- I wonder if this one is getting extra credit from that school in Texas.
He wouldn't want me to grade him on his debating skill, let me tell you.
Can you say, "Eaten alive by the Great and Powerful Lizard King?"
| 923 |
Born Again Republican Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:57:29pm |
re: #836 brookly red
This is true. And as much as I don't like Obama, it is not so much the idea of the president addressing school children (in fact I think that is good) it is the lesson plan that caused all the fuss.
Yes, that didn't start the idea on a good footing. Plus, his timing sucks. People are afraid of him right now because of everything he's trying to get done.
| 924 |
avanti Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:57:36pm |
re: #895 OldLineTexan
I'm still extremely interested in your take on these questions, avanti.
Sorry, but I find the entire dust up as silly. I think when the text of the speech is released Monday, many may agree.
| 925 |
debutaunt Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:57:48pm |
re: #868 Fenway_Nation
At best, it's over-reaching and patronizing.
Actually, it would be a little different if he went to some school in person to adress the students. I mean a loser like Dukakis visited our town during the '88 campaign and it was a pretty big deal at the time...just imagine if a sitting President came to visit.
I imagine the Q&A might be a problem.
| 926 |
Gus Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:57:52pm |
re: #910 kcladderman
yes if you play my nic backwards it says
namreddalck
Vietnam red china dalk galbi!
//
| 927 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:58:03pm |
| 928 |
Neutral President Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:58:03pm |
re: #903 Sharmuta
There's only one site stupid enough to come up with that. Am I right?
Nope, not even those douchebags. It was someone here I was arguing with that probably was banned in short order. Because I refused to subscribe to his easily debunked cartoonish ODS conspiracy theory, I was obviously an Obama shill. I think he was a nirther, and didn't like my "burden of proof is on you" speech.
| 929 |
wrenchwench Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:58:09pm |
re: #915 RainDog
He was joking, right?
I thought it was funny, at least.
God... maybe he wasn't!
Still funny.
I try not to make assumptions, but I've been known to miss sarcasm when it's not tagged.
| 930 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:58:36pm |
re: #922 Dreader1962
Can you say, "Eaten alive by the Great and Powerful Lizard King?"
really? who knew? i don't feel any different. must be a metaphysical thing.
| 931 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:58:42pm |
re: #914 TradeBait
you forgot to demonstrate your intelligence by including the labels "dumbass" and "dipshit." please revise
No, I only describe things as I see them. I've never used those words when responding to you or posting about you, but you just have to include them with my nic, don't you?
For one who is complaining about the words, you have no scruple in typing them, do you?
| 932 |
brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:58:51pm |
re: #902 wrenchwench
Our gov't speaks and it's none of our business?
good point. it is our biz what our gov't says, i meant that settelments or not is not our biz... but i guess if we fund it it is our biz too. ok my bad.
| 933 |
wrenchwench Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:58:52pm |
| 934 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 4:59:43pm |
re: #911 Diego
I can see both sides and have talked to solders who are on both sides.
I know it's only anecdotal, but many of the ones I've spoken to feel like they are not treated like humans, but some sort of machines doing a job. They didn't agree that funerals shouldn't be reported even when the family agreed. They don't like how casualties are barely mentioned in the US press.
They don't like that people seem to think/say 'just send more, get the job done' and don't consider that it's human lives they are talking about.
I see a body count every day. Try CNN.
Our local paper is very good about the troops, living and dead. Front page.
My friend the Stryker driver in Iraq wants as many troops as possible so he can get home quicker.
| 935 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:00:04pm |
| 936 |
CyanSnowHawk Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:00:23pm |
re: #933 wrenchwench
Then you're late!
Whoops, so am I. I was supposed to be on the way home two minutes ago.
Later lizards.
| 937 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:00:39pm |
re: #918 HoosierHoops
LOL good one Gus...Hope you are well
What do you think of the God Particle theory? I think another force in Gravity is involved...I have no proof...
But hell...If tradebait can say anything without proof why can't I? It's a free country..*wink*
Have you considered joining the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
| 939 |
HelloDare Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:00:53pm |
The Mt. Wilson Towercam is working. [Link: www.astro.ucla.edu...]
| 940 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:00:54pm |
| 941 |
brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:00:57pm |
re: #923 Born Again Republican
Yes, that didn't start the idea on a good footing. Plus, his timing sucks. People are afraid of him right now because of everything he's trying to get done.
well if the agenda scares people I guess that says a lot...
| 942 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:01:10pm |
| 943 |
kcladderman Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:01:23pm |
re: #921 irongrampa
I do SO wish the left would take their "support" for our troops and SHOVE IT until they choke on it.
Fucking grave dancers.
We had a guy here who was planting a flag for every soldier killed along with end this war now type stuff in front of his house. He lives on a busy street so several thousand cars pass everyday. That display was up from shortly after the war started until this past November.
I wonder why he took it down?
/
| 944 |
Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:01:52pm |
re: #932 brookly red
good point. it is our biz what our gov't says, i meant that settelments or not is not our biz... but i guess if we fund it it is our biz too. ok my bad.
I think it comes down to: is there an agreement to try to get a lasting peace or not?. If there is, please stop building and we'll see where it goes from here. If not, then don't say you'll stop then don't.
| 945 |
TradeBait Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:01:53pm |
well, i'm off to watch the football game. please "ding down" all of my posts. i don't want to lose my negative karmic value. how would i ever sleep at night?
| 946 |
wrenchwench Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:01:53pm |
re: #936 CyanSnowHawk
Whoops, so am I. I was supposed to be on the way home two minutes ago.
Later lizards.
Time for me to close up and head home too.
What he said!^^^
| 947 |
Gus Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:01:55pm |
re: #918 HoosierHoops
LOL good one Gus...Hope you are well
What do you think of the God Particle theory? I think another force in Gravity is involved...I have no proof...
But hell...If tradebait can say anything without proof why can't I? It's a free country..*wink*
The God particle? I won't even try. I like to defer to experts in those matters.
| 950 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:03:07pm |
re: #921 irongrampa
I do SO wish the left would take their "support" for our troops and SHOVE IT until they choke on it.
Fucking grave dancers.
I love Gramps after we get two cans of Pabst in him.
/
| 951 |
SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:03:19pm |
re: #698 TradeBait
RNA is one component of a living cell, there are literally thousands of others. remove any one of them, working in conjunction, and you don't have "life," you simply have yet another pile of inorganic material.
First, this argument holds no water; irreducible complexity arguments simply don't stand up to scientific scrutiny.
More importantly, however, neither prokaryotic nor eukaryotic cells posses "thousands" of different components. Prokaryotes, in fact, contain little beyond a plasmid of DNA and a lipid membrane, and there is abundant fossil evidence showing that this is the very first sort of cellular life that arose on earth - and in fact dominated the earth for the bulk of it's history. Flagella are about the only interesting structures prokaryotes produce (for those who don't find their simple, single loop of DNA interesting) and their function, structure and evolution has already been discussed in detail here, in the articles that Charles linked and elsewhere in tremendous detail.
Eukaryotic cells are more complex, and only arose roughly within the last 2 billion years; however, they contain nowhere near "thousands" of structures - more on the order of a very few dozen, at most. And the bulk of these additional consituents - mitochondria, the nucleus, lysosomes, ribosomes, chloroplasts - bear a striking resemblance to individual bacteria. Some, notably mitochondria, still retain their own unique DNA, utterly different from that found in the nucleus. The idea that these cellular constituents arose through the symbiosis of several different prokaryotic species has been around for a very long time, and it's major proponent, Lynn Margulis, first published advanced theories elucidating it in 1966, although she acknowledges that her work derives ultimately from speculative writings dating back to the 19th century.
Also, there is no evidence whatsoever to support a supernatural origin for life. None. Every component of living matter is...just matter. It exhibits precisely the same chemistry and physics in a cell as it does in the test tube, with nothing outside the realm of what science has teased out of studying all of nature to be found. If you want your ideas to be considered by science, then you have to play by the rules that science demands and offer a testable hypothesis and the same empirical evidence you're demanding of science in support of your own claim.
| 952 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:04:07pm |
re: #945 TradeBait
well, i'm off to watch the football game. please "ding down" all of my posts. i don't want to lose my negative karmic value. how would i ever sleep at night?
Wow - what a hero. Just like LostPinkyMan, he really punched us in the face, didn't he?
/
| 953 |
Gus Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:04:27pm |
re: #945 TradeBait
well, i'm off to watch the football game. please "ding down" all of my posts. i don't want to lose my negative karmic value. how would i ever sleep at night?
Don't forget while your watching the game that football was invented 5000 years ago only then it involved men and dinosaurs. The first football was made of dinosaur skin.
/
| 954 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:04:28pm |
re: #924 avanti
Sorry, but I find the entire dust up as silly. I think when the text of the speech is released Monday, many may agree.
Don't treat me like a Ford owner, bro!
/
| 955 |
Fenway_Nation Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:04:40pm |
re: #911 Diego
Ummm...I was a soldier and accepted the fact that I might never come back home as part of the job when I signed on the dotted line. Most of the soldiers I served with also seemed to have accepted this.
I also had the talk with my parents and basically asked my mom not to act like Cindy Sheehan ten years before Sheehan was camping out in Crawford, TX.
Also...back in 2001-2002, I don't remember the media getting a hard-on for casualty or flag-draped casket photos for the fallen in Afghanistan like they did for Iraq from 2003 onward...to the point where some MSM outlets published a picture if the remains of the Shuttle Columbia's crew being flown in flag-draped caskets and identified it as GI's killed in Iraq being flown to Dover AFB.
| 956 |
bloodnok Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:04:44pm |
re: #921 irongrampa
I do SO wish the left would take their "support" for our troops and SHOVE IT until they choke on it.
Fucking grave dancers.
I don't think everyone on teh left is a grave dancer. There's that broad brush that the right is just as quick to scream about when statements are made about what teh right believes.
I wasn't aware concern for our troops was limited only to the right, or that support from both sides was not needed or appreciated. Or that you had the power and ability to decide what support was real and what wasn't. But I forget myself sometimes. Left=antiamerican traitors. Got it.
| 957 |
brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:05:05pm |
re: #944 Diego
I think it comes down to: is there an agreement to try to get a lasting peace or not?. If there is, please stop building and we'll see where it goes from here. If not, then don't say you'll stop then don't.
well honestly we have all seen where it goes...
| 958 |
calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:05:08pm |
re: #950 OldLineTexan
I love Gramps after we get two cans of Pabst in him.
/
Sounds painful. Oh, he drinks it. I get it.//
Ah-- I quit early (as I have to work on Sunday and Monday) and am stocked with single-malt, beer, wine and college football.
Life is good (for now)
| 959 |
Bagua Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:05:15pm |
re: #917 John Neverbend
My last attempt to buy a platinum ETF was about 2 years ago, so this may be a new development. However, I think you get exposure in this case to several precious metals, not just platinum, so you'd have to want that total exposure. I found the prospectus, and it seems to be an ETN with the commodity exposure coming from a rolling futures investment in the underlying metals.
You may also trade ETFS Physical Platinum "PHPT" which has the added benefit of being Shariah compliant.
| 960 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:05:18pm |
re: #951 SixDegrees
At this point, I don't think he's worth the effort. He basically crapped on the carpet and went to watch football.
Not a worthy adversary.
| 961 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:05:22pm |
The Curious Orange - the public decides it's fate.
| 963 |
midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:05:28pm |
Guy Heinz, Jr. who made the 911 call about the killings in GA was arrested in 8 deaths.
| 966 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:06:29pm |
re: #937 John Neverbend
Have you considered joining the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
They won't have me...It's always about the tin foil hats.I need a new one..:)
But seriously..The God Particle and gravity is a major reason the LHC was built..Scientists are looking for a quark that unlocks the secret of Gravitational properties...
| 967 |
SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:06:44pm |
re: #788 TradeBait
well, give me proof that "God", or whomever, didn't do it. aren't you the one who always demands proof? how about a little from your end?
A demand for a negative proof, or argument from ignorance. A classical fallacy disallowed in courts and in all rational argument for thousands of years. See my references in the thread just downstairs for more discussion and links.
| 968 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:07:04pm |
re: #951 SixDegrees
I wish I could give you a thousand updings.
| 969 |
jcm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:07:13pm |
re: #951 SixDegrees
Pfftt, it's Turtles All the Way Down is much simpler!
Besides I used to nightmares about that stuff ;-)
What ya' drinkin' on this Friday evening?
| 970 |
Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:08:00pm |
re: #957 brookly red
well honestly we have all seen where it goes...
We have, but that doesn't mean we should give up trying.
| 971 |
calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:08:13pm |
re: #965 Jimmah
Goddamn computer keeps crashing.
Was it made in a workers' paradise?//
Could not resist.
| 972 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:08:25pm |
re: #955 Fenway_Nation
Ummm...I was a soldier and accepted the fact that I might never come back home as part of the job when I signed on the dotted line. Most of the soldiers I served with also seemed to have accepted this.
I also had the talk with my parents and basically asked my mom not to act like Cindy Sheehan ten years before Sheehan was camping out in Crawford, TX.
Also...back in 2001-2002, I don't remember the media getting a hard-on for casualty or flag-draped casket photos for the fallen in Afghanistan like they did for Iraq from 2003 onward...to the point where some MSM outlets published a picture if the remains of the Shuttle Columbia's crew being flown in flag-draped caskets and identified it as GI's killed in Iraq being flown to Dover AFB.
I agree. Doesn't this concern expressed by these folks come across as ... insincere? ... opportunistic? ... narcissistic?
That's the way the soldiers see it.
Of course, being portrayed as idiots and evil savages in most movies and TV programs doesn't help.
| 973 |
midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:08:40pm |
re: #964 calcajun
A blend? BAH!
Speaking of a fine blend, how about Boones-Farm? Quality rot gut and sugar.
| 974 |
Gus Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:09:27pm |
re: #971 calcajun
Was it made in a workers' paradise?//
Could not resist.
Hecho en Cuba!
/Coming soon.
/
| 975 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:09:31pm |
re: #949 midwestgak
Hennessey.
Just sayin':
In 2009, a limited edition bottle of Hennessy VS was released in honor of the inauguration of Barack Obama as the 44th president of the United States of America.
;-)
Enjoy it all you want.
| 976 |
calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:09:46pm |
re: #973 midwestgak
Speaking of a fine blend, how about Boones-Farm? Quality rot gut and sugar.
After you killed a bottle of Russian River Merlot, followed by a bottle of 2-Buck Chuck.//
| 977 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:10:01pm |
re: #894 Killgore Trout
OK, 894 still needs way more + dings.
| 978 |
Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:10:49pm |
Please don't anyone get the impression that I'm in support of the reporting/picture. I'm not in any way.
| 979 |
midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:10:54pm |
| 980 |
brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:11:12pm |
re: #970 Diego
We have, but that doesn't mean we should give up trying.
the sound of one hand clapping...
| 981 |
calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:11:58pm |
| 982 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:12:30pm |
| 983 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:13:22pm |
re: #974 Gus 802
Hecho en Cuba!
/Coming soon.
/
I vote for it.
China - no beaches, more carbon credits needed to ship the stuff
Cuba - great beaches, rum, cigars, and 90 miles to Mi-freakin'-AMI!
/
| 984 |
SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:13:28pm |
re: #962 Sharmuta
Now THAT'S a smack down. +1!
I was a biology major in a previous life. Never got through the degree, but I still keep up with the field in a lazy sort of way.
| 985 |
DEZes Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:13:34pm |
| 986 |
Diego Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:13:48pm |
re: #980 brookly red
the sound of one hand clapping...
I don't get what you mean, sorry for being daft.
Surely you're not saying we should stop trying and just settle for the fact that the killing on both sides will never stop and there is nothing we can do? Don't take this as me putting words in your mouth, I'm only asking what you mean.
| 987 |
calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:13:57pm |
re: #983 OldLineTexan
I vote for it.
China - no beaches, more carbon credits needed to ship the stuff
Cuba - great beaches, rum, cigars, and 90 miles to Mi-freakin'-AMI!/
Cuba Libre!
| 988 |
Neutral President Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:14:18pm |
re: #959 Bagua
You may also trade ETFS Physical Platinum "PHPT" which has the added benefit of being Shariah compliant.
I think thats the ETF that they said you could not buy as a US resident. I might be mistaken though.
| 989 |
calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:14:33pm |
| 991 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:15:05pm |
Another nice feature of the Roomba is my cats aren't terrified of it. They're a little wary but it doesn't bother them nearly as much as the regular vacuum.
| 992 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:15:08pm |
re: #971 calcajun
Was it made in a workers' paradise?//
Could not resist.
Actually the part that is failing was made in the USA!
| 994 |
irongrampa Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:15:48pm |
re: #956 bloodnok
I will stand behind what I posted--not gonna walk back a scintilla of it.
If you have a problem with it, then deal with it.
| 995 |
SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:16:21pm |
re: #969 jcm
Pfftt, it's Turtles All the Way Down is much simpler!
Besides I used to nightmares about that stuff ;-)What ya' drinkin' on this Friday evening?
A cheap but quite nice Pinot Noir. And you?
| 997 |
Gus Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:16:26pm |
re: #983 OldLineTexan
I vote for it.
China - no beaches, more carbon credits needed to ship the stuff
Cuba - great beaches, rum, cigars, and 90 miles to Mi-freakin'-AMI!/
And lots of 57 Chevy's!
And Cubanas. ;)
| 998 |
bloodnok Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:16:34pm |
re: #994 irongrampa
I will stand behind what I posted--not gonna walk back a scintilla of it.
If you have a problem with it, then deal with it.
Hey that's just super.
| 999 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:16:45pm |
re: #979 midwestgak
Had NO idea. None. Nada. Nyet. Spew.
I didn't mean to get you away from it.
Just did some reading on wiki about it. Yet:
North Korean leader Kim Jong-il is known to have a penchant for Hennessy, reportedly being their number one customer over the past ten years.
| 1000 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:16:54pm |
re: #897 Bagua
True, but then Options, Stocks, ETFs, etc. are all not for the faint-hearted and full of risks. The question is more the speed of the decline.
It's also a function of leverage, at least as far as futures and options are concerned. A single futures contract will often cover a far larger investment than an individual investor would contemplate buying. The futures exchange may permit trading on margin, but then you have to contend with margin calls which could wipe out a small investor. ETFs will not suffer from this problem, as any futures are fully collateralized.
| 1001 |
SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:17:58pm |
re: #990 Sharmuta
It was an impressive refutation.
Thanks. But I suspect it didn't make much of an impression on it's target.
| 1003 |
jcm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:18:21pm |
re: #995 SixDegrees
A cheap but quite nice Pinot Noir. And you?
I've got a Hebrew Origin Pomegranate Ale waiting to be tried out. An excursion from my usual dark and bitter brews.
| 1004 |
Charles Johnson Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:18:30pm |
re: #991 Killgore Trout
Another nice feature of the Roomba is my cats aren't terrified of it. They're a little wary but it doesn't bother them nearly as much as the regular vacuum.
It's weird, isn't it? I thought cats would be completely freaked out by the thing, but they seem to actually like it.
| 1005 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:19:22pm |
re: #992 Jimmah
Actually the part that is failing was made in the USA!
Loose nut behind the keyboard?
/
| 1007 |
SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:19:46pm |
re: #1004 Charles
It's weird, isn't it? I thought cats would be completely freaked out by the thing, but they seem to actually like it.
I'm sure you've seen this, but I can't resist posting it anyway:
| 1008 |
midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:19:55pm |
re: #999 callahan23
Hennessey hasn't made any profit from me. I drink wine. Chardonnay, preferably.
| 1010 |
calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:20:33pm |
re: #1008 midwestgak
Hennessey hasn't made any profit from me. I drink wine. Chardonnay, preferably.
poofter!//
| 1011 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:20:40pm |
re: #1004 Charles
It's weird, isn't it? I thought cats would be completely freaked out by the thing, but they seem to actually like it.
It must be small enough to be categorized as 'prey'.
| 1012 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:20:43pm |
re: #1004 Charles
It's weird, isn't it? I thought cats would be completely freaked out by the thing, but they seem to actually like it.
They seem to look at it as if it's another annoying animal. I guess since it's relatively quiet they don't find it overly bothersome.
| 1013 |
calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:21:39pm |
re: #1004 Charles
It's weird, isn't it? I thought cats would be completely freaked out by the thing, but they seem to actually like it.
Do they chase it? In my house, the damn thing would be overloaded--with four teens and two Akitas.
| 1014 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:21:39pm |
| 1015 |
SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:21:40pm |
re: #1003 jcm
I've got a Hebrew Origin Pomegranate Ale waiting to be tried out. An excursion from my usual dark and bitter brews.
That sounds interesting. I noticed the produce store had their first fresh pomegranates of the season today, so that sounds like a timely beverage.
| 1016 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:21:48pm |
I just noticed - we're already over 1,000 on the overnight thread?
| 1017 |
Bagua Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:21:50pm |
re: #988 ArchangelMichael
I think thats the ETF that they said you could not buy as a US resident. I might be mistaken though.
Take a look at PGM it trades on NYSE Arca
| 1018 |
midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:21:58pm |
| 1020 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:22:11pm |
re: #959 Bagua
You may also trade ETFS Physical Platinum "PHPT" which has the added benefit of being Shariah compliant.
This sounds like the one that I was trying to invest in but was prevented from doing so, although I don't remember the Shariah compliance. Perhaps regs have changed.
| 1021 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:22:39pm |
re: #1016 Dreader1962
I just noticed - we're already over 1,000 on the overnight thread?
Don't tell me people are still arguing over there.
| 1022 |
brookly red Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:22:48pm |
re: #986 Diego
I don't get what you mean, sorry for being daft.
Surely you're not saying we should stop trying and just settle for the fact that the killing on both sides will never stop and there is nothing we can do? Don't take this as me putting words in your mouth, I'm only asking what you mean.
I mean that all previous concessions have been met with even more violence.
| 1023 |
Bagua Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:23:16pm |
re: #1000 John Neverbend
It's also a function of leverage, at least as far as futures and options are concerned. A single futures contract will often cover a far larger investment than an individual investor would contemplate buying. The futures exchange may permit trading on margin, but then you have to contend with margin calls which could wipe out a small investor. ETFs will not suffer from this problem, as any futures are fully collateralized.
Yes, as I say, "the speed of the decline" the more leverage the faster the investor will lose money, playing it as an ETF just slows down the bleed.
| 1024 |
calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:23:22pm |
re: #1018 midwestgak
Is that like being light weight?/
touche.
Not a graduate of the University of Wallamaloo.
| 1025 |
Dreader1962 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:23:33pm |
re: #1021 Dark_Falcon
Don't tell me people are still arguing over there.
Sorry, I meant 'afternoon' thread.
*drink*
| 1026 |
jcm Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:24:14pm |
re: #1015 SixDegrees
That sounds interesting. I noticed the produce store had their first fresh pomegranates of the season today, so that sounds like a timely beverage.
In Iran we get tons of pomegranates in season, I love 'em, but $2 a pop? One of my favorite recipes is chicken in a walnut pomegranate sauce over rice (submitted for the next cookbook).
| 1027 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:24:27pm |
re: #1018 midwestgak
Is that like being light weight?/
You are by no means a light weight with your 4,672 comments so far. Pretty impressive demi-senior Lizardess. {midwestgak}
| 1028 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:24:42pm |
re: #1011 Dreader1962
It must be small enough to be categorized as 'prey'.
KT's cats:
teh suk kitteh haz no tale
shhh, taht's not poliet!
| 1029 |
Fenway_Nation Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:25:30pm |
re: #1020 John Neverbend
I know the Dubai exchange initiated a sharia-compliant gold-backed ETF earlier this year. They made a pretty big deal about it at the time, so I assumed that was the 1st sharia-compliant commodity-backed ETF trading in the Middle East...
| 1030 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:25:40pm |
| 1031 |
calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:25:42pm |
re: #991 Killgore Trout
Another nice feature of the Roomba is my cats aren't terrified of it. They're a little wary but it doesn't bother them nearly as much as the regular vacuum.
Put a cozy on it that looks like a mouse.
| 1032 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:26:16pm |
re: #1014 Jimmah
Walked into that one didn't I?
You could just produce a nirth certifikit proving you are Kenyan ...
/just sayin'
| 1033 |
Killgore Trout Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:26:21pm |
re: #1028 OldLineTexan
Zoe does have a bit of tail envy. She's fascinated by Matilda's tail.
| 1034 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:26:43pm |
re: #1009 calcajun
(hangs head in shame)
Don't worry, I have a feeling America - my dear, sweet America, will soon make up for it by sending something nice my way ;-)
| 1035 |
SixDegrees Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:27:04pm |
re: #1026 jcm
In Iran we get tons of pomegranates in season, I love 'em, but $2 a pop? One of my favorite recipes is chicken in a walnut pomegranate sauce over rice (submitted for the next cookbook).
Also sounds very good.
My culinary plans this weekend involve simplicity. The butcher has been displaying rainbow trout fillets for the last couple of weeks, and they're calling to me. A light brushing of olive oil, salt and some freshly ground pepper, on the hottest grill I can manage for a couple minutes per side, with a light squirt of fresh lime juice, and I'm good. Maybe get the wife to do some au gratin potatoes on the side.
| 1036 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:27:17pm |
re: #1029 Fenway_Nation
I know the Dubai exchange initiated a sharia-compliant gold-backed ETF earlier this year. They made a pretty big deal about it at the time, so I assumed that was the 1st sharia-compliant commodity-backed ETF trading in the Middle East...
If it's gold-backed, maybe they can get Ron Paul to shill for it here.
/mostly kidding
| 1037 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:28:16pm |
re: #1023 Bagua
Yes, as I say, "the speed of the decline" the more leverage the faster the investor will lose money, playing it as an ETF just slows down the bleed.
Yes, one invests in an ETF (or a stock) with at least the expectation of prices rising and certainly the confidence of not being wiped out by interim price declines. I bought some GLD shares (what's it called these days?) a few years ago. They've been up and down, mostly up. Some of the down movements were quite large, and if I'd been long a futures contract, I may have been buried by a margin call.
| 1038 |
Bagua Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:28:33pm |
re: #1020 John Neverbend
This sounds like the one that I was trying to invest in but was prevented from doing so, although I don't remember the Shariah compliance. Perhaps regs have changed.
[Link: www.ipathetn.com...]
| 1040 |
calcajun Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:28:47pm |
re: #1034 Jimmah
OK-- that's 4 minutes of my life that's not coming back.
| 1042 |
Bagua Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:30:48pm |
re: #1037 John Neverbend
Yes, one invests in an ETF (or a stock) with at least the expectation of prices rising and certainly the confidence of not being wiped out by interim price declines. I bought some GLD shares (what's it called these days?) a few years ago. They've been up and down, mostly up. Some of the down movements were quite large, and if I'd been long a futures contract, I may have been buried by a margin call.
Correct, it's all a question of the leverage, it is why the Casinos can constantly make 20% per bet even on games with a 2% edge.
| 1045 |
midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:32:07pm |
re: #1030 HoosierHoops
{Gak} How is life treating you?
{Hoosier}. Got confirmation today about taking a test for a perspective job. Thanks for asking.
| 1046 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:33:21pm |
re: #1045 midwestgak
{Hoosier}. Got confirmation today about taking a test for a perspective job. Thanks for asking.
Great! I'm telling you Civil Service tests..Fricking Government is hiring!
Be well!
| 1047 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:33:47pm |
re: #1040 calcajun
OK-- that's 4 minutes of my life that's not coming back.
Which is really impressive considering it was only posted for 2 minutes and 4 seconds when you posted that! imnstead of complaining about lost time, you should be thankful for the extra 2 minutes of life it has apparently magically bequeathed to you!
| 1048 |
callahan23 Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:35:17pm |
re: #1045 midwestgak
{Hoosier}. Got confirmation today about taking a test for a perspective job. Thanks for asking.
I wish you all the best for your test and subsequent job application. {{{Gak}}}
| 1049 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:36:09pm |
re: #1046 HoosierHoops
Great! I'm telling you Civil Service tests..Fricking Government is hiring!
Be well!
Which departments are hiring?
| 1050 |
Dancing along the light of day Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:36:28pm |
Gotta go cook.
BBL!
Play nicely, now...
| 1051 |
midwestgak Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:37:50pm |
| 1052 |
John Neverbend Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:38:29pm |
re: #1038 Bagua
[Link: www.ipathetn.com...]
Thanks. I think I was only finally interested in one of two bullion-backed ETFs, both of which at the time didn't allow US investors. However, there were other investments that I could have chosen such as ETNs, but I abandoned the idea ultimately on timing considerations. Platinum had peaked around $2,000 per ounce, and it seemed a bit "toppy".
| 1053 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:40:50pm |
re: #1051 midwestgak
Metropolitan Water Reclamation.
Where I live, you normally can't work in a job like that unless you're a Dem.
| 1055 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:45:00pm |
| 1056 |
avanti Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:47:08pm |
re: #991 Killgore Trout
Another nice feature of the Roomba is my cats aren't terrified of it. They're a little wary but it doesn't bother them nearly as much as the regular vacuum.
It took mine a week to stop just following it around and starting a attack plan, just little swats so far.
| 1057 |
A Man for all Seasons Fri, Sep 4, 2009 5:47:13pm |
re: #1048 callahan23
I wish you all the best for your test and subsequent job application. {{{Gak}}}
It's been a while since I worked for the DOD...There are lots of web sites and jobs available..Park service...Health care...Whatever...You just need to dive in to the job threads.. With Obama in office..The Government job market is wide open...After College I took a Civil service exam and scored like #3 out of thousands of people..I remember thinking to myself..There cannot be that many stupid fuckers out there...But it's true...The Government paid for me to go 3 more years of College to be a Fully Qualified Nuclear Worker on Submarines...Seek and you shall find..Search Government Jobs...
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