1 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 11:10:36pm

Nice pic.

43 day until something... I forget what...
/beats freetoken to the punch. :)

2 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 11:11:30pm

I'll wait for the ocean to rise up

3 freetoken  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 11:12:21pm

Blue... peaceful... the color of Heaven... many shade of blues... the blues... obviously a Christmas color if there ever was one:

I'm getting tight on my timeline for Christmas shopping, as I have people overseas to whom I want to send presents, and ground mail is not so quick to parts of Asia. You've got 43 days of shopping left, but to send overseas ... Thanksgiving is about the cut-off time.

4 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 11:12:45pm

Goodnight all. Sleep well.

5 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 11:13:14pm

I'm pleased to report the latest update of the Not Another New England Sports Blog! went off without any casualties...

6 freetoken  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 11:13:22pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Good night, The Raptor.

7 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 11:13:58pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon


Fare thee well, avian raptor borne of the dusky-hued plumage persuasion!

8 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 11:15:29pm

re: #5 Fenway_Nation

I'm pleased to report the latest update of the Not Another New England Sports Blog! went off without any casualties...

First story, Srsly?? Lol.

9 Cheechako  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 11:29:22pm

After reading the last thread I opened my mail. Damn, I got called for jury duty for the month of December. At least there won't be many trials around Christmas and New Years. (I hope!)

10 checked08  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 11:33:33pm

Been waiting for this thread. Remember that crazy Christian artist? Well his masterpiece has been reworked.

11 Pepper Fox  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 11:39:37pm

re: #10 checked08

Been waiting for this thread. Remember that crazy Christian artist? Well his masterpiece has been reworked.

I liked the one with the fake descriptions and the one with anti-christian quotes by the subjects in the painting.

12 Pepper Fox  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 11:41:29pm

[Link: www.shortpacked.com...] Here it is, the reworking of the descriptions. Love it!

13 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 11:47:57pm

re: #10 checked08

Been waiting for this thread. Remember that crazy Christian artist? Well his masterpiece has been reworked.

Glad they still kept the Bircher book.

14 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 11:50:34pm

re: #10 checked08

Been waiting for this thread. Remember that crazy Christian artist? Well his masterpiece has been reworked.

Us good Portal of Evil fans have known about that for a while. It never stops being funny :D My favorite is the guy wearing a suit with a mass of tendrils for a head, on the inner right there.

15 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Nov 10, 2009 11:55:37pm

re: #13 Sharmuta

Glad they still kept the Bircher book.

They had to leave it in. It's an infernal tome! Even the Revelations of Glaaki, spoken of in hushed whispers by cultists throughout the centuries, it just can't compare.

(Sanity Loss 1D6/2D6 from reading Bircher screeds)

16 checked08  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 12:01:43am

re: #14 WindUpBird

Bah. I'm out of the...portal of evil loop?

17 freetoken  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 12:33:13am
18 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 12:35:01am

re: #17 freetoken

Actually a beautiful soundtrack. Thank you.

19 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 12:35:45am

Sorry- I should elaborate. The entire trilogy's soundtracks are beautiful.

20 freetoken  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 12:36:42am

re: #18 Sharmuta

You're welcome. In case you hadn't noticed, this month has been LOTR month in the overnight dead thread music :-)

BTW, I put up a link to a superb Blogginheads interview with Bruce Feiler. Strongly recommended.

21 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 12:41:27am

re: #20 freetoken

Thanks, I check it out in the morning. I have a headache coming on and need to hit the hay otherwise I'd do it now.

I hope you all have a good night.

22 freetoken  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 12:53:10am

re: #21 Sharmuta

Good night Sharmuta.

If you do watch the Feiler interview, recommend the entire interview, not just the clips they bookmarked.

23 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 12:56:01am

re: #5 Fenway_Nation

I'm pleased to report the latest update of the Not Another New England Sports Blog! went off without any casualties...

Fenway, nice job. But I also thought the U.S. loaned Brazil 2 billion dollars to help them with their drilling. My memory might be wrong.

24 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 12:59:17am

re: #23 Cannadian Club Akbar


[Link: online.wsj.com...]

25 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 1:04:21am

re: #24 Cannadian Club Akbar

Not so fast. Sorry.
[Link: www.factcheck.org...]

26 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 1:15:39am

re: #23 Cannadian Club Akbar

TY...I'm not so sure about the loans to Brazil from us, but I'm pretty sure the Chinese are buying up as much oil as PertoBras can produce and probably offering whatever financial aid is neccesary for further exploration.

27 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 1:17:12am

Sorry...was in another window trying to figure out exactly where Colorado Route 105 begun and ended..

28 freetoken  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 1:35:25am
29 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 1:37:19am

Let's play dodge the question!!!

30 TheMatrix31  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 1:50:09am

re: #29 Cannadian Club Akbar

What a disgusting person.

31 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 1:53:40am

re: #30 TheMatrix31

What a disgusting person.

But, but, she cares. And she wants us all to have health care.

32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 2:12:09am

"Texas has the death penalty and we use it! Other states are trying to abolish the death penalty. My state's putting in an express lane."
-Ron White

33 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 2:14:56am

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Texas has the death penalty and we use it! Other states are trying to abolish the death penalty. My state's putting in an express lane."
-Ron White

Heard an interview with him and they asked if he really drank on stage. He said there have been nights in comedy clubs (2 shows a night) where he didn't remember the end of the 2nd show.

34 AK-47%  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 2:36:36am

re: #33 Cannadian Club Akbar

Heard an interview with him and they asked if he really drank on stage. He said there have been nights in comedy clubs (2 shows a night) where he didn't remember the end of the 2nd show.

Midday in Germany. They do not celebrate or even observe November 11th in connection with WWI here. Nearby there is a large monument [Link: www.seilbahn-ruedesheim.de...]
to the Franco-Prussian War of 1871, which I like to point out is the last (and only) war that Germany ever won...


There are reasonable arguments for a death penalty, but one argument against it is that it leads to a system where prosecutors seek to collect "brownie points" for sending the most convicts to death row, they think it looks good on their record.

And if someone is cleared after the fact, that's yesterday's news...

35 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 2:41:35am

re: #34 ralphieboy

Ice Weasel and I covered the death penalty issue yesterday. The gubner of Illinios halted all executions a while back for that reason. But if you're talking about the DC sniper, well at least he was asked if he had any last words (he didn't). Unlike his victims who got nothing of the sorts.

36 TheMatrix31  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 2:46:02am

re: #34 ralphieboy

Oh, you're not from the US? That explains a lot.

37 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 2:47:28am

re: #36 TheMatrix31

Oh, you're not from the US? That explains a lot.

And it is Vetrans Day!!

38 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:07:33am

re: #37 Cannadian Club Akbar

Veteran's-PIMF

39 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:19:50am
Ahmadinejad: Obama must chose between Israel and Iran
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called on the US to choose between Israel and Iran on Tuesday night, according to Iranian state media.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad after a press conference in Istanbul, Monday.
Ahmadinejad said that for a real change in relations to take place, a choice must be made.
Speaking in Istanbul at the 25th Session of the Standing Committee for Economic and Commercial Cooperation (COMCEC) of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, the Iranian president said that it was up to US President Barack Obmama to illustrate his motto of "Change."
"The support of both Israel and Iran can't go hand in hand," he was quoted as saying by IRNA. "No change is made unless great choices are made."

Unclench/

40 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:21:40am

re: #39 Spare O'Lake
Link for #39:
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

41 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:23:00am

"The support of both Israel and Iran can't go hand in hand," he was quoted as saying by IRNA. "No change is made unless great choices are made."

How about we support the Iranian people in a new revoluion, Dinnerjacket.

42 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:23:36am

re: #29 Cannadian Club Akbar

Let's play dodge the question!!!

[Video]

Is there really a proposal to imprison those who do not buy health insurance?

43 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:24:52am

re: #41 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm down with that...

44 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:25:59am

re: #33 Cannadian Club Akbar

Heard an interview with him and they asked if he really drank on stage. He said there have been nights in comedy clubs (2 shows a night) where he didn't remember the end of the 2nd show.

Which scotch does he drink?

45 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:27:13am

re: #44 MandyManners

Which scotch does he drink?

Not sure but I guess it works.:)

46 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:30:22am

re: #42 MandyManners

Is there really a proposal to imprison those who do not buy health insurance?

There was a story on Drudge over the weekend, IIRC.
And there is this
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

47 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:31:30am

re: #45 Cannadian Club Akbar

Not sure but I guess it works.:)

Are his stories about his wife and father-in-law true?

48 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:32:14am

Dodd wants to strip the Fed of the power to oversee banks?! Is he a Paulian?

49 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:32:37am

re: #47 MandyManners

Are his stories about his wife and father-in-law true?

Comedians usually pull their shows from real life, so I'm betting yes.

50 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:33:06am

re: #48 MandyManners

Dodd wants to strip the Fed of the power to oversee banks?! Is he a Paulian?

I bet he wants the power.

51 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:33:42am

re: #46 Cannadian Club Akbar

There was a story on Drudge over the weekend, IIRC.
And there is this
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

The Senate removed that provision but, it's extremely disturbing that BHO supported it.

52 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:34:33am

re: #51 MandyManners

The Senate removed that provision but, it's extremely disturbing that BHO supported it.

K, didn't know that. Probably why I couldn't find the story.

53 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:34:33am

re: #50 Cannadian Club Akbar

I bet he wants the power.

Yeah, well, I want a pony for Christmas.

54 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:34:57am

re: #52 Cannadian Club Akbar

K, didn't know that. Probably why I couldn't find the story.

It's in your No. 46.

55 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:35:02am

re: #53 MandyManners

Yeah, well, I want a pony for Christmas.

No unicorn?

56 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:36:19am

re: #54 MandyManners

It's in your No. 46.

I didn't scroll down enough. CCA FAIL!!

57 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:36:52am

re: #51 MandyManners

The Senate removed that provision but, it's extremely disturbing that BHO supported it.

Would the uninsured convicts get free medical care in jail?

58 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:36:53am

re: #54 MandyManners

It's in your No. 46.

Okay, he doesn't explicitly endorse it but, neither does he explicitly repudiate it.

59 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:37:22am

re: #55 Cannadian Club Akbar

No unicorn?

Unicorns are so 2008.

60 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:37:33am

re: #57 Spare O'Lake

Would the uninsured convicts get free medical care in jail?

*rimshot*

61 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:37:36am

re: #46 Cannadian Club Akbar

“What I think is appropriate is that in the same way that everybody has to get auto insurance and if you don't, you're subject to some penalty, ---”

Whoa whoa whoa whoa...hold the damn phone there for a second. First of all, what about all those people who live in big cities like New York or Chicago that take the bus, subway, el or taxi everywhere because it's more trouble than it's worth to have a car in such an environment?

Second of all...using that very same example, can anybody provide me with an instance of when illegal aliens are required to carry auto insurance? I mean they're already in the country illegally, but they'll somehow magically be compelled to get auto insurance because...we...y'know...it's the law?

Give me a fucking break.

62 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:39:27am

A South Carolina court has outlawed crosses on license plates.

63 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:40:27am

re: #61 Fenway_Nation

Whoa whoa whoa whoa...hold the damn phone there for a second. First of all, what about all those people who live in big cities like New York or Chicago that take the bus, subway, el or taxi everywhere because it's more trouble than it's worth to have a car in such an environment?

Second of all...using that very same example, can anybody provide me with an instance of when illegal aliens are required to carry auto insurance? I mean they're already in the country illegally, but they'll somehow magically be compelled to get auto insurance because...we...y'know...it's the law?

Give me a fucking break.

Before we give you a fucking break please provide proof of insurance.
;D

64 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:40:44am

re: #62 MandyManners

My blog scooped the Washington Post.

65 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:40:59am

re: #62 MandyManners

A South Carolina court has outlawed crosses on license plates.

In Florida, years ago they passed a law where you can't put up a cross at an accident site. They have these round signs that say please drive safely.

66 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:41:17am

re: #64 Fenway_Nation

My blog scooped the Washington Post.

On this issue?

67 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:41:56am

re: #65 Cannadian Club Akbar

In Florida, years ago they passed a law where you can't put up a cross at an accident site. They have these round signs that say please drive safely.

What about private property next to the site? They can't do shit about that.

68 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:42:00am

re: #66 MandyManners

On this issue?

Fenway is Deep Throat.
/

69 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:42:06am

re: #66 MandyManners

No...I was just trying to make conversation...

/directed back toards me ;)

70 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:42:27am

re: #67 MandyManners

What about private property next to the site? They can't do shit about that.

Usually see them on the interstate.

71 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:43:18am

re: #62 MandyManners

A South Carolina court has outlawed crosses on license plates.

Do you think they crossed the line?

72 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:43:56am

re: #70 Cannadian Club Akbar

Usually see them on the interstate.

I can see them being forbidden on interstate roadways because they could be distracting.

73 AK-47%  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:44:32am

re: #37 Cannadian Club Akbar

And it is Vetrans Day!!

[Video]

I am from the 'States. I have just been living here in Old Europe since 1988. I was getting fed up with the place and was ready to leave in 1989, but then suddenly got very interesting around here, and I decided to stick around and see how they turned out.

I am an expatriate, not an ex-patriot. Right now, I live here because it's where my family is, I intend to stick around.

Must admit, this is a time of year I get homesick for the 'States, what with the lovely fall leaves turning, and the ongoing reactions to it even more so.

Must admit that news of Fort Hood made me less homesick.

74 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:45:25am

re: #71 Spare O'Lake

Do you think they crossed the line?

It puts sand in my shorts but, no. The state issues the plates so it cannot favor any religion.

Whoa. Hold on. Why not make it possible to have a Star of David, a crescent or other symbols of religions?

75 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:46:02am

re: #74 MandyManners

It puts sand in my shorts but, no. The state issues the plates so it cannot favor any religion.

Whoa. Hold on. Why not make it possible to have a Star of David, a crescent or other symbols of religions?

We have "Choose Life" plates.

76 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:47:05am

re: #75 Cannadian Club Akbar

We have "Choose Life" plates.

I was just thinking of those. I wonder if someone will try to get them banned because it could be argued that that message is a religious one.

77 AK-47%  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:48:04am

re: #74 MandyManners

It puts sand in my shorts but, no. The state issues the plates so it cannot favor any religion.

Whoa. Hold on. Why not make it possible to have a Star of David, a crescent or other symbols of religions?

You can put all the religious bumper stickers on your car that you want, but a license plate, by all rights is an official document and must by law remain religiously neutral.

My favorites are still the "Honk if you're Jesus!" bumber stickers.

78 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:48:25am

Fox has a bald eagle on now. Awesome!

79 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:48:31am

re: #76 MandyManners

I was just thinking of those. I wonder if someone will try to get them banned because it could be argued that that message is a religious one.

I think they tried. Can't remember.

80 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:49:01am

Coffee.

81 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:50:38am

October 30, 2009; Not Another New England Sports Blog! does a write up on the meme circulating in Iranian and Pakistani media that the Taliban are blaming Blackwater USA for a particularly brutal car bombing that killed 118 in Peshawar back in October.

The Washington Post makes no mention of this until Nov. 7th.

It's about the most noteworthy thing I've done w/my blog so far, but it's only been around for a month.

82 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:51:40am

re: #77 ralphieboy

We had a Muslim woman here in Florida who sued because she had to show her face on her drivers license. She wanted the pic with her face covered. She lost the case. And the brand of Islam she followed didn't allow women to drive. Heh.

83 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:51:57am

Reminds me of the man in Florida with an 'ATHEIST' plate.

After getting complaints, the state decides a Florida man's license plate is objectionable and yanks it.


...

But to the state of Florida, the tag is "obscene or objectionable," according to a letter Miles received last month from the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. That puts the personalized plate on the department's blacklist, right up there with epithets, expletives and words describing certain body parts.
84 AK-47%  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:52:13am

re: #79 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think they tried. Can't remember.

And if they allow religious symbols, they would have to permit "Satan is Our Lord and Master" or "Cthulu Rules!" license plates. Do we really want to go there?

85 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:52:20am

re: #76 MandyManners


Yet keystoners had to endure the 'you've got a friend in Pennsylvania' plates.

86 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:53:08am

re: #84 ralphieboy

And if they allow religious symbols, they would have to permit "Satan is Our Lord and Master" or "Cthulu Rules!" license plates. Do we really want to go there?

The plate only says Choose Life. No religious symbols on it.

87 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:53:49am

re: #85 Fenway_Nation

Yet keystoners had to endure the 'you've got a friend in Pennsylvania' plates.

IIRC, Indiana plates say "In God We Trust."

88 AK-47%  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:54:09am

Wisconsin License Plate Motto Proposal: "Eat Cheese or Die!"

As long as it is religiously neutral, that is fine. One can be athiest and pro-life. Just, as we discussed last night, one can be non-Jewish and Zionist.

89 bloodnok  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:54:24am

re: #80 MandyManners

Coffee.

Yes, please.

90 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:55:06am

I figured out why my coffee tastes like crap. The other day the store was out of heavy whipping cream so I got half-and-half. I just grabbed it, not realizing it was fat-free. Oh, crud.

91 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:56:02am

re: #90 MandyManners


So nobody took a dump in the Mr. Coffee then?

92 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:56:10am

re: #90 MandyManners

I figured out why my coffee tastes like crap. The other day the store was out of heavy whipping cream so I got half-and-half. I just grabbed it, not realizing it was fat-free. Oh, crud.

I remember the day you got whipping cream on accident. You've been hooked ever since. Heh.

93 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:56:43am

re: #91 Fenway_Nation

So nobody took a dump in the Mr. Coffee then?

Oh, yuck.

94 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:57:07am

re: #92 Cannadian Club Akbar

I remember the day you got whipping cream on accident. You've been hooked ever since. Heh.

I hate wasting food so I'm torn on whether to dump this or not.

95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:57:38am

re: #82 Cannadian Club Akbar

We had a Muslim woman here in Florida who sued because she had to show her face on her drivers license. She wanted the pic with her face covered. She lost the case. And the brand of Islam she followed didn't allow women to drive. Heh.

Yeah, but you need an I.D. to go clubbing...

96 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:57:58am

re: #94 MandyManners

I hate wasting food so I'm torn on whether to dump this or not.

I'd dump it. I don't do fat free anything.

97 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:58:39am

re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah, but you need an I.D. to go clubbing...

Or to get a job at a strip joint..

98 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:59:15am

re: #97 Cannadian Club Akbar


Or to buy copious amounts of Jim Bean

99 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 3:59:52am

re: #98 Fenway_Nation

Or to buy copious amounts of Jim Bean

I hear Canadian Club is pretty good...

100 AK-47%  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:00:36am

There is a fine disctinction between religion in general (and its role in America's history) and the state favoring a particular religion or church. I have no great problem with "One Nation Under God" or even "In God We Trust".

The Supreme Court ruled as such over a deptiction of the Ten Commandments at the US Capitaol, which showed them in the context of their role in developing the law in history.
And we cannot ignore or deny the role that Christianity played in our nation's development, but at the saem time, we must continue to stress that freedom of religion and separation of church and state are among the cornerstones of our democracy

The bit with the Muslim woman's picture ID is, in my assessment an example of where the law trumps religious convictions: if she has trouble with it then she has the option of just staying at home.

101 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:01:08am

re: #96 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'd dump it. I don't do fat free anything.

I probably will end up dumping it. But, I'll feel guilty about it.

102 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:01:37am

re: #97 Cannadian Club Akbar

Or to get a job at a strip joint..

Or, write a check.

103 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:02:42am

Hasan's attorney will be on Fox soon.

104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:03:02am

re: #101 MandyManners

I probably will end up dumping it. But, I'll feel guilty about it.

Mom, "All those starving children in Asia, and you're just going to throw that away?"
Kid, "Name one, Ma."

105 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:03:35am

re: #99 Cannadian Club Akbar


Well...let's say this Muslima with the covered face is at borders purchasing the compiled works of Rushdie, the Danish MoToons and one of those coffee table books of Maplethorpe photos...and the clerk asks for ID...what's she supposed to do?

//

106 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:05:14am

re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mom, "All those starving children in Asia, and you're just going to throw that away?"
Kid, "Name one, Ma."

Son Li!

107 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:05:46am

re: #106 MandyManners

Son Li!

Kim Jung Il.

108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:05:51am

re: #100 ralphieboy

Ralphie? She was a white chick, Muslim convert.

Had been involved in some other nuisance lawsuits.

Court just didn't buy her bullshit, IIRC.

109 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:06:19am

re: #107 Cannadian Club Akbar

Kim Jung Il.

No, that fat fuck is well fed.

110 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:06:36am

re: #107 Cannadian Club Akbar

Kim Jung Il.


He's so hunglee...
/

111 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:06:59am

re: #108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ralphie? She was a white chick, Muslim convert.

Had been involved in some other nuisance lawsuits.

Court just didn't buy her bullshit, IIRC.

That was in Florida. I think she was a white convert.

112 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:09:14am

Fox just reported that there will be a lot of arrests of Muslims in the military soon.

113 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:09:31am

Maybe I heard that wrong.

114 AK-47%  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:11:07am

re: #111 Cannadian Club Akbar

That was in Florida. I think she was a white convert.

And that is one reason why a constitutional and equally applied law must always have prededence over religious convictions.

115 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:11:28am

re: #112 MandyManners

Fox just reported that there will be a lot of arrests of Muslims in the military soon.

Not sure about arrest in the military, but..
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

116 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:11:55am

re: #114 ralphieboy

Agreed.

117 AK-47%  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:12:35am

re: #112 MandyManners

Fox just reported that there will be a lot of arrests of Muslims in the military soon.

So this is going to do for the US Army what Columbine did for the school system: an overreation by overworked, insecure and poorly-trained civil servants out to make sure their a**es are covered.

118 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:14:28am

re: #115 Cannadian Club Akbar

Not sure about arrest in the military, but..
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

That makes more sense.

119 SixDegrees  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:16:00am

re: #108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ralphie? She was a white chick, Muslim convert.

Had been involved in some other nuisance lawsuits.

Court just didn't buy her bullshit, IIRC.

The reasoning was quite simple: the state's right to be able to identify the license bearer trumped whatever religious right existed to remain covered. Driving is a privilege, not a right, and the state was under no obligation to modify it's requirements when the simple alternative of not driving was an option.

It was also pointed out that in all countries where women are allowed to drive, they are required to carry a license feauring their bare-faced portrait. This included majority Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia. In short, there was no evidence that Islam required such covering under the circumstances in question.

There have been similar skirmishes over Muslim women being required to remove their veils while testifying in court. I don't think any of these have proceeded all the way to trial yet, but it is generally felt that it is the judge's prerogative to have the faces of those giving testimony visible.

120 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:16:12am

re: #117 ralphieboy

So this is going to do for the US Army what Columbine did for the school system: an overreation by overworked, insecure and poorly-trained civil servants out to make sure their a**es are covered.

And another outcome was the ratcheting up of P.C. bullshit.

If The Kid was in public school when he drew some pictures about war, I'd have been called in and CPS probably would've been called on me.

121 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:16:59am

re: #119 SixDegrees

Women are allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia? Am I confusing that with Kuwait?

122 SixDegrees  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:18:10am

re: #121 MandyManners

Women are allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia? Am I confusing that with Kuwait?

Under various restrictions, yes, they're allowed to drive in SA.

123 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:18:14am

Fox has Hasan's attorney on now, John Galligan, a retired colonel.

124 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:18:32am

re: #121 MandyManners

Women are allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia? Am I confusing that with Kuwait?

I think Kuwait actually has women in the government. That might be on a local level. Can't remeber.

125 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:18:35am

re: #122 SixDegrees

Under various restrictions, yes, they're allowed to drive in SA.

Must they have a close, male relative in the car?

126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:18:35am

re: #119 SixDegrees

This a problem in Dearborn?

127 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:18:55am

re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think Kuwait actually has women in the government. That might be on a local level. Can't remeber.

I remember that happening.

128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:19:26am

re: #119 SixDegrees

There a problem with the right to "face your accuser" with the veil?

129 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:20:11am

Gretchen is asking some pretty pointed questions but, Galligan is doing a pretty good job of deflecting them.

130 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:20:17am

re: #115 Cannadian Club Akbar

LALALALALA! NOthing to see here...just PTSD cooties!

/

131 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:20:35am

re: #127 MandyManners

I remember that happening.

A womans movement in the Middle East would change everything.

132 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:21:20am

re: #131 Cannadian Club Akbar

A womans movement in the Middle East would change everything.

The hand that rocks the cradle,...

133 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:22:06am

re: #131 Cannadian Club Akbar

A womans movement in the Middle East would change everything.

A true movement making solid gains might produce more deaths than our civil rights movement.

134 SixDegrees  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:22:49am

re: #125 MandyManners

Must they have a close, male relative in the car?

I believe that's true.

135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:24:17am

re: #131 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've always thought that, in America, Women's Suffrage had some advantage because at the end of the day, when men got home, (even with all the public misogyny) they were terrified of their wives...

Or am I way off base?

136 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:24:20am

re: #134 SixDegrees

I believe that's true.

What about the head covering? Wouldn't it screw with peripheral vision?

137 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:24:38am

re: #134 SixDegrees

I believe that's true.

Guess women in SA can kiss away the pizza delivery careers.
//

138 SixDegrees  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:24:51am

re: #126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This a problem in Dearborn?

re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There a problem with the right to "face your accuser" with the veil?

There is a case pending in Dearborn where a judge demanded that a Muslim woman remove her veil while testifying. I believe it's a civil case, but I'm not certain. Last I heard, the woman involved was griping about it, and it was working it's way through the appeals process, with the initial hearings favoring the judge.

139 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:24:53am

re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've always thought that, in America, Women's Suffrage had some advantage because at the end of the day, when men got home, (even with all the public misogyny) they were terrified of their wives...

Or am I way off base?

I thought it was because they loved their wives.

140 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:25:36am

re: #139 MandyManners

I thought it was because they loved their wives.

Wives have all the good parts.

141 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:25:54am

re: #138 SixDegrees

There is a case pending in Dearborn where a judge demanded that a Muslim woman remove her veil while testifying. I believe it's a civil case, but I'm not certain. Last I heard, the woman involved was griping about it, and it was working it's way through the appeals process, with the initial hearings favoring the judge.

I'd kinda' like to see the costs paid by her.

142 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:26:18am

re: #140 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wives have all the good parts.

*shaking head*

143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:27:25am

re: #139 MandyManners

I thought it was because they loved their wives.

Love, many times, has a healthy dose of "fear" thrown in.

144 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:29:33am

re: #143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Love, many times, has a healthy dose of "fear" thrown in.

Not to me. It has healthy doses of respect and honor.

145 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:30:20am

re: #144 MandyManners

It certainly should.

146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:32:00am

I'm watching how to make TOFU on "Dirty Jobs".

Doesn't look so much "dirty" as labor intensive.

147 AK-47%  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:32:18am

re: #144 MandyManners

Not to me. It has healthy doses of respect and honor.

One of the arguments against sufferage is that women alrady have run of domestic politics, they souzld leave public politics to the men.

I see that at one level in Germany: women are not nearly as represented in politics and management as in the 'States, but as a rule, they are in completle control of hearth and home, and men learn to toe the line or face the consequences...

148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:33:49am

re: #147 ralphieboy

hence...

re: #143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Love, many times, has a healthy dose of "fear" thrown in.

149 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:34:20am

re: #147 ralphieboy

One of the arguments against sufferage is that women alrady have run of domestic politics, they souzld leave public politics to the men.

I see that at one level in Germany: women are not nearly as represented in politics and management as in the 'States, but as a rule, they are in completle control of hearth and home, and men learn to toe the line or face the consequences...

Buncha' sexist bullshit.

150 AK-47%  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:38:10am

Shoulda pinted out that I don't agree with those arguments against sufferage, that's just what they said.

And I find that most German men are almost completlely helpless around the house, on the other hand, that seems to be the way their yre raised by their mothers...a bit of a vicious cycle, I guess.

151 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:38:47am

Goodness, I love America.

152 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:39:36am

Crap. I gotta go shower so I can go "try out" for a job I am over qualified for. Then tomorrow I get to go to Tampa for an interview for a different job. See ya'll this afternoon.

153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:40:15am

re: #152 Cannadian Club Akbar

TAKE LUCK!

154 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:42:10am

re: #152 Cannadian Club Akbar

Crap. I gotta go shower so I can go "try out" for a job I am over qualified for. Then tomorrow I get to go to Tampa for an interview for a different job. See ya'll this afternoon.

Good luck!

155 AK-47%  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:42:36am

Germany is rather progressive in that it offers state-subidized day care for all children above three, but it is generally only half-day, the notion being that if a mother is going to work, then she should keep it part-time.

And the entire tax, insurance and benefits system is based on the model of one partner working a "career" job and the other (i.e., the mother) staying at home or working only part time.

156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:45:08am

Heh. Watching the episode of "The Andy Griffith" show where Barney sings the song "Santa Lucia" then Gomer out sings him.

Love this one.

157 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:46:00am

No matter how it's dressed, misogyny is misogyny.

158 StillAMarine  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:53:15am

In Flanders Fields
By: Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)
Canadian Army

In Flanders Fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

159 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 4:59:15am

Sarah, US Army
Sharon, US Air Force
Sam, US Army
Roberta, US Air Force
Tony, US Navy
Steve, US Navy

My brothers and sisters who served in the US Military

7 Uncles, two Aunts
3 Brother in-laws

Who also served.

Thanks to them, and to those I've never met.

160 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:00:16am

Morning Folks

161 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:03:37am

re: #159 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sarah, US Army
Sharon, US Air Force
Sam, US Army
Roberta, US Air Force
Tony, US Navy
Steve, US Navy

My brothers and sisters who served in the US Military

7 Uncles, two Aunts
3 Brother in-laws

Who also served.

Thanks to them, and to those I've never met.

Your family and mine would get along well. I have 1 brother and 3 sisters, all but one of us served in one branch or the other. Plus, all my uncles, both grandparents, and the majority of my cousins.

The cute ones (my sisters) all went to the Air Force. Me, the uncles and grandparents were all army, Dad was Navy, and those who couldn't spell correctly ended up in the Marines. ;)

162 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:06:48am

re: #35 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ice Weasel and I covered the death penalty issue yesterday. The gubner of Illinios halted all executions a while back for that reason. (snip)

Regionalized adverts on LGF here in AL bring up Troy King. He's state
attorney general aiming for governor. His campaign seems to be that
he really, really hates murderers and child molesters. I guess he's yielding
the anti-pyromaniac vote to the opposition.

163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:06:55am

re: #161 RogueOne

When it came to my time, my dad begged me not to join. Said he'd given enough.

164 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:13:11am

re: #62 MandyManners

A South Carolina court has outlawed crosses on license plates.

Now, if they could keep burning crosses off lawns.

165 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:17:13am

re: #72 MandyManners

I can see them being forbidden on interstate roadways because they could be distracting.

They're also embarrassing to agenies that are supposed to build and police safe roads. The sherrif of Russell Co AL had 50+ crosses on his chunk of
431, but he was campaigning for a share of highway funds.

166 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:18:51am

re: #163 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My best friend comes from a miltiary family also, dad retired as a colonel. My buddy enlisted as an E1 and qualified on his own for just about every specialized combat training you can imagine. He just spent the last few years being an infantry drill sergeant at Benning. Last month his oldest boy followed in his footsteps over his dads suggestion that he join something safer, more educational, and all around cleaner. He's obviously very proud his boy ignored him. I'm betting your dad was too.

167 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:22:00am

re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mom, "All those starving children in Asia, and you're just going to throw that away?"
Kid, "Name one, Ma."

"If you've got the postage, I've got the turnips." Tried that on a nun.

168 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:24:30am

re: #112 MandyManners

Fox just reported that there will be a lot of arrests of Muslims in the military soon.

Good. I was afraid that there might be a lot of arrests of Muslims in the military soon.

169 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:24:41am

More evidence that the government cares enough about you to frame you:

[Link: reason.com...]

170 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:28:34am

re: #166 RogueOne

Oh. I didn't ignore him. I did not enlist.

Probably would have been good for me. It was a pretty good experience for most of the 6.

171 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:30:50am

re: #164 Decatur Deb

Now, if they could keep burning crosses off lawns.

I'm guessing they largely do.

"Using the word indicator in a sentence? My brother-in-law has an Aunt that lives way up 'in Decatur'."
-Jeff Foxworthy

172 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:32:54am

re: #170 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I misunderstood. I thought you were in also. We had a fat bastard vegetarian "druid" in my basic training class, he didn't make it long tho.

173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:34:46am

re: #172 RogueOne

I misunderstood. I thought you were in also. We had a fat bastard vegetarian "druid" in my basic training class, he didn't make it long tho.

Oh, yeah. I'd've doubted his longevity myself.

174 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:35:29am

re: #172 RogueOne

I misunderstood. I thought you were in also. We had a fat bastard vegetarian "druid" in my basic training class, he didn't make it long tho.

What the hell possessed him to join?

175 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:37:34am

re: #174 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't know. He also had a thing about not wanting to be around anyone who wasn't white. You would think a racist druid would know better than to join an organization like the Army but I'm guessing his options were limited.

176 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:39:05am

re: #174 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

After a few confrontations, he ended up "falling in the shower" and breaking his arm. Weird how that happened.

177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:39:47am

Oh, this ain't Memorial Day. Always good to mourn the Dead, (especially with recent happenings), but I always look on this as the day to Celebrate the Living Heroes.

See a Vet? Say thanks.

178 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:41:09am

re: #171 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm guessing they largely do.

"Using the word indicator in a sentence? My brother-in-law has an Aunt that lives way up 'in Decatur'."
-Jeff Foxworthy

Per SPLC interactive map, the nearest "above ground" Klan HQ is about
50 miles from me, but yes, they haven't the support to go after families these days.

On the veteran's theme, my dad (radio operator of the Decatur Deb) is in
the left foreground of this photo.

Image: lo5.jpg

179 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:43:55am

Good morning. Thanks to outlying bands of Ida, it's been a rainy night in Georgia.

180 The Left  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:44:36am

re: #169 RogueOne

More evidence that the government cares enough about you to frame you:

[Link: reason.com...]

semi OT:
Internet Virus Frames Users For Child Porn

Of all the sinister things that Internet viruses do, this might be the worst: They can make you an unsuspecting collector of child pornography.

Heinous pictures and videos can be deposited on computers by viruses – the malicious programs better known for swiping your credit card numbers. In this twist, it's your reputation that's stolen.

Pedophiles can exploit virus-infected PCs to remotely store and view their stash without fear they'll get caught. Pranksters or someone trying to frame you can tap viruses to make it appear that you surf illegal Web sites.

Whatever the motivation, you get child porn on your computer – and might not realize it until police knock at your door.

An Associated Press investigation found cases in which innocent people have been branded as pedophiles after their co-workers or loved ones stumbled upon child porn placed on a PC through a virus. It can cost victims hundreds of thousands of dollars to prove their innocence.

181 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:50:50am

re: #180 iceweasel

Yeah. I read that one yesterday. What a horrible thing to have happen to someone. The very first quote on the reason story:

Death Panelist%P%11.10.09 @ 4:58PM%P%#

Did the prosecutors even try to install a trojan to download kiddie porn onto the guy's computer first? Slackers.

182 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:55:48am

//When are the right wing theocratic loving socons going to get it into their heads that what people listen to on their own time is none of their damn business? This is obviously the fault of the religious extremists.//

[Link: gloriabrame.typepad.com...]

183 AK-47%  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 5:57:06am

re: #180 iceweasel

Kiddie Porn was the Columbine of the 80's: it went from something that was ignored and repressed until some heinious cases came out, then the public overreacted with "zero tolerance" and supposition-of-guilty-until- proven-innocent that got parents busted for developing photos of their kiddies in the bathtub and incidents like this one.

184 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:00:01am

re: #182 RogueOne

//When are the right wing theocratic loving socons going to get it into their heads that what people listen to on their own time is none of their damn business? This is obviously the fault of the religious extremists.//

[Link: gloriabrame.typepad.com...]

Yow. Wonder if we'll ever hear the Unplugged versions of these ditties.

185 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:00:07am

Where is everyone? I've made a gratiutus slap against marines, the government, and lefties and not one bite? Everyone hung over from their "DC sniper death panel" parties last night?

186 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:01:41am

re: #185 RogueOne

"If the weather's not right, the fish don't bite"

187 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:02:24am

Good morning lizards. Cold & rainy here in the Blue Ridge Mountains. I have a family of four deer roaming around in the backyard.

188 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:05:45am

re: #187 NJDhockeyfan

(the kid on the left is adopted. Shhh.)

189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:06:09am

oops! look at the time!

190 ohpleaseno  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:06:51am

Happy Veteran's Day to all of the Veteran Lizards.

191 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:11:40am

re: #185 RogueOne

I'm home, wasting time. I dropped my car off for service about an hour ago. I could walk to the gym in the rain, but I think I'll wait until I get my car back. I'm trying to decide if I should ride my bike in the rain to pick up the car later (the garage gave me a ride home when I dropped it off.)

192 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:12:29am

Anyone else mention this yesterday?

the development project at the center of the Fifth Amendment takings clause case Kelo v. City of New London has just been abandoned by Pfizer...
[Link: blog.heritage.org...]

193 spare o'lake  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:12:52am

re: #187 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards. Cold & rainy here in the Blue Ridge Mountains. I have a family of four deer roaming around in the backyard.

Dark and dusty,
Painted on the sky
Misty taste of moonshine
Tear drop in my eye...

194 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:13:27am

re: #190 ohpleaseno

Happy Veteran's Day to all of the Veteran Lizards.

History of Veterans Day

195 spare o'lake  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:15:50am

re: #188 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(the kid on the left is adopted. Shhh.)

doe!

196 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:16:27am

re: #191 Mad Al-Jaffee

Gotta get your 28 mins in at the gym?

197 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:16:38am

A sixth UN mission in NY gets white powder letter

NEW YORK, Nov 11 (Reuters) - Russia became the sixth U.N. mission in New York to receive a letter containing white powder, police said on Wednesday after an envelope was found at the diplomatic post on Manhattan's Upper East Side overnight.

The U.N. missions of Austria, France, Britain, Germany and Uzbekistan all received letters containing white powder over the past two days. More than 40 people were decontaminated as a precaution after the letters were found.

The powder in the letters received by the missions of Austria, France and Uzbekistan was identified as flour, a New York Police Department spokesman said. Authorities are still waiting for test results on the powder sent to the missions of Britain, Germany and Russia and investigations are continuing.

198 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:17:40am

re: #193 spare o'lake

Dark and dusty,
Painted on the sky
Misty taste of moonshine
Tear drop in my eye...

[Link: vids.myspace.com...]

199 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:17:52am

re: #191 Mad Al-Jaffee

BTW, good looking dog in your profile

200 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:20:30am

re: #199 RogueOne

BTW, good looking dog in your profile

Thanks! That picture was taken the day she got groomed. Most of her fur has grown back by now.

201 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:23:19am

re: #200 Mad Al-Jaffee

She looks happy about it. What breed(-s) is she? She looks like a shepherd from the photo.

202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:24:53am

Worky Worky earn ToFurkey!

203 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:28:18am

re: #201 RogueOne

She's a shepherd mix. She's probably part spitz, or something related. She acts like a border collie.

204 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:34:13am

re: #188 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(the kid on the left is adopted. Shhh.)

Here is the family on a dry day.

Image: p1012978.jpg
Image: p1012987.jpg

205 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:41:22am

Today's bible lesson:

Genesis 11

Teh Towur ov Babel

1 And all uv de Urf was lolcatspeekinkz usin' lolcats werdz. 2 Whial teh menz be movin' eest, they finded vallee in teh land uv Shinar an sitted ther.
3 Dey sed "hai, letz maek teh brix an make 'em harrd wif fiir." So dey uzed brix for ston an bitumen (wtf izzat?) for mortar. 4 Den dey sed "hai, letz maek reel tall towerz for us so we be togethr forevr!"
5 So, Ceiling Cat comeded down an saw teh men an ther towerz. 6 Den Ceiling Cat sez "Oh noes, if they all togethr after mah hi spot, they gonna get mah hi spot! 7 I gots'ta confuzzle 'em and stop 'em!" 8 Dat's wai Ceiling Cat pwned 'em an dragd 'em away from ther towerz. Dey stop buldin' after dat. 9 So teh towerz wuz calld Babel cuz Ceiling Cat made teh men babbul ther befor movin' dem.

206 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:42:47am

re: #203 Mad Al-Jaffee

I decided I'm tired of my green football icon so I'm putting some photos on flickr. I have another acct for my FARK login, but those pics are mostly very inappropriate for general consumption. I want a pic of my dog on here too damnit!

207 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:51:54am

good morning sports fans

208 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:53:30am

Man charged with statutory rape in ‘marriage’ to 14-year-old girl

Vincent Mosby signed a marriage contract and paid a dowry in a religious ceremony in August, police said.

Mosby, 23, of Kansas City didn’t legally wed his 14-year-old bride, however, because Missouri law won’t allow it without a judge’s order. Police said she was pressured into the union because her mother and stepfather thought she was going to be sexually active with a boy her age.

Although the bride’s stepfather arranged the “marriage,” according to court records, other relatives frowned upon the union and told police in late August. The relatives also took the girl to protect her from further sexual abuse, according to court records.

A relative told police that Mosby called and threatened violence if family members didn’t “give me back my wife in 72 hours,” according to court records. Two days later, on Sept. 9, someone fired three shots into the Kansas City home of the girl’s aunt. No one was hit.

...In Islam, boys and girls are considered adults based on when they hit puberty, and people in some parts of the world do marry young, said Mahnaz Shabbir of Stilwell, a past president of the Heartland Muslim Council.

However, she said, Islam also says followers should live by the laws of the land.

209 right_wing2  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:54:59am

On this Veteran's Day, I'd like to extend a huge "Thank you" and "God Bless" to the tens of thousands of men & women serving our country today, and the millions who have given so much.

210 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:58:06am

re: #208 NJDhockeyfan

Man charged with statutory rape in ‘marriage’ to 14-year-old girl

That mother should have her parental rights terminated. And, that's just for a start.

211 gregb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:02:06am

6-1/2 hours driving around in traffic in Pasadena, Century City, Beverly Hills, and Santa Monica yesterday. I need a good decompression day. I think I'll check out the ol' LGF. :-)

What did I miss?

212 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:04:09am

re: #208 NJDhockeyfan

Man charged with statutory rape in ‘marriage’ to 14-year-old girl

I'm gonna go out on alimb and suggest this is yet another one of those bizzarro "Muslim" groups that have adopted the text, some names, and the costumes, and just sorta left out everything else. Prislam for those outside, if you will.

213 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:06:58am

re: #210 MandyManners

That mother should have her parental rights terminated. And, that's just for a start.

Oughta lose her oxygen privileges.

214 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:12:18am

I've changed my icon and refreshed my cache but my pic doesn't seem to be showing up. it's showing up in my profile so I'm going to assume it's working fine and will eventually show on my screen.

215 Irish Rose  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:12:39am

Good morning, lizards.
A sunny and mild autumn day up here in unemploymentville... how's everyone?

216 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:12:45am

TADA! n/m, there it is. My 2 killers.

217 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:13:54am

re: #214 RogueOne

I've changed my icon and refreshed my cache but my pic doesn't seem to be showing up. it's showing up in my profile so I'm going to assume it's working fine and will eventually show on my screen.

Yes... I can see it. It's a naked Dave Letterman and you on a trampoline with a... what is that small animal next to you two?

218 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:14:07am

re: #208 NJDhockeyfan

Maybe it wasn't "rape rape."

219 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:14:43am

re: #217 Walter L. Newton

Yes... I can see it. It's a naked Dave Letterman and you on a trampoline with a... what is that small animal next to you two?

I thought that photo was only on my private flickr site?

220 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:15:38am

re: #214 RogueOne

I've changed my icon and refreshed my cache but my pic doesn't seem to be showing up. it's showing up in my profile so I'm going to assume it's working fine and will eventually show on my screen.

It's there for me - two dogs sitting in yard.

William

221 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:19:50am

re: #220 wlewisiii

It's there for me - two dogs sitting in yard.

William

Me too. Good looking dogs!

222 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:23:26am

I'll be back in a bit. Microsoft wants to restart my computer now, so it can fix things in office 2003 which probably should have been fix in... oh let me hazard a guess... in 2003!

223 AK-47%  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:23:43am

re: #198 Mad Al-Jaffee

[Link: vids.myspace.com...]

We did a version of that once at our John Denver memorial sessiion:

Almost fourteen, second cousin,
minor lady, stranger to warm water...

///

224 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:24:14am

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
Senior Official: More Hasan Ties to People Under Investigation by FBI
Alleged Shooter Had "Unexplained Connections" to Others Besides Jihadist Cleric Awlaki

A senior government official tells ABC News that investigators have found that alleged Fort Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan had "more unexplained connections to people being tracked by the FBI" than just radical cleric Anwar al Awlaki. The official declined to name the individuals but Congressional sources said their names and countries of origin were likely to emerge soon.

...
Texas, an hour before a memorial service for the Fort Hood victims, four FBI agents showed up at the Killeen mosque where Hasan prayed and searched a trash bin outside. The mosque president was clearly upset when he had to return from traveling to the service to sign a document handed to him by agents, apparently authorizing the search.

The FBI would not comment on what the agents were looking for at the mosque a full five days after the shooting, but motivation remains the focus.

"Obviously, the key is did he act alone," former senior FBI official Brad Garrett told ABC News. "And secondarily is, what evidence might potentially be in the dumpsters or at the mosque."

"We're concerned any time a house of worship is searched in this fashion," said Ibrahim Hooper, national communications director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington, D.C.-based civil rights group. "And we would follow up to see if there was probable cause for the search and if it was carried out in the appropriate and legal manner."

225 filetandrelease  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:26:51am
"We're concerned any time a house of worship is searched in this fashion," said Ibrahim Hooper,

He belongs in the dumpster with the rest of the garbage.

226 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:27:00am

re: #221 Mad Al-Jaffee

Me too. Good looking dogs!

Thanks! 2 Dobies, both with natural ears and the red female actually has her natural tail. Last fall they kept someone from robbing me blind so they've already earned a lifetimes worth of good food.

227 Sloppy  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:27:48am

The other day I was wearing a sweat shirt with a vaguely semi-military-looking motif and a gushy lady at the lunch table thanked me profusely for my service in protecting her and her family. I wasn't in a mood to explain my brief, inglorious six monhs in the peacetime Army Reserve or the 100% civilian provenance of the sweat shirt, so I tried to look heroic and mumbled something to the effect of "You're welcome." Bless her heart, but it was embarrassing. Here's to the real veterans.

228 AK-47%  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:29:22am

"We're concerned any time a house of worship is searched in this fashion," said Ibrahim Hooper, national communications director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington, D.C.-based civil rights group. "And we would follow up to see if there was probable cause for the search and if it was carried out in the appropriate and legal manner."

On one hand, we do hve to be especially solicitious of religious fredom in our country, but our Constitution overrides any sort of religious convictions.

When the Catholic Church was being reticent about assisting investigations about child abuse allegations among priests, the Attorney General said that they would simply start treating the church as a criminal organization involved in a conspiracy.

And that is the strength of Speraration of Church and State in our country: even if it is a religious organization, if it engaged in illegal activities, then it can be trated as a criminal organization, regardliess of its religious status.

229 AK-47%  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:30:28am

artocious spellig

230 KingKenrod  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:31:41am

Google has a Veteran's Day logo up. First time ever, I think.

231 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:32:40am

re: #226 RogueOne

I would love to have 2 (or more) dogs, but 1 is enough to handle. I sometimes have two when my brother and sister in law are out of town. Their dog and mine are like cousins and they love visiting each other.

232 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:34:21am

re: #230 KingKenrod

Google has a Veteran's Day logo up. First time ever, I think.

Which Sesame Street characters are those two in the logo?

233 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:34:38am

Stimulus job boost in state exaggerated, review finds
Errors, incomplete data, estimated positions go into federal report

From the arch-nemesis of Obama, ally of Beck, and probable Tea Party organizer, the Boston Globe:

While Massachusetts recipients of federal stimulus money collectively report 12,374 jobs saved or created, a Globe review shows that number is wildly exaggerated. Organizations that received stimulus money miscounted jobs, filed erroneous figures, or claimed jobs for work that has not yet started.
...
In other cases, federal money that recipients already receive annually - subsidies for affordable housing, for example - was reclassified this year as stimulus spending, and the existing jobs already supported by those programs were credited to stimulus spending. Some of these recipients said they did not even know the money they were getting was classified as stimulus funds until September, when federal officials told them they had to file reports.

“There were no jobs created. It was just shuffling around of the funds,’’ said Susan Kelly, director of property management for Boston Land Co., which reported retaining 26 jobs with $2.7 million in rental subsidies for its affordable housing developments in Waltham. “It’s hard to figure out if you did the paperwork right. We never asked for this.’’

The federal stimulus report for Massachusetts has so many errors, missing data, or estimates instead of actual job counts that it may be impossible to accurately tally how many people have been employed by the massive infusion of federal money. Massachusetts is expected to receive an estimated $1 billion more in stimulus contracts, grants, and loans.

234 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:35:11am

re: #231 Mad Al-Jaffee

Until the housing market tanked my spouse and I were looking for a much bigger place because I have it in my head that I need an entire pack of dobies in my backyard. I have a friend in Tucson who sent me a picture a couple years ago of him relaxing on his back deck surrounded by his 8 dobes, I've been jealous ever since.

235 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:36:02am

re: #224 Guanxi88

"We're concerned any time a house of worship is searched in this fashion," said Ibrahim Hooper, national communications director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington, D.C.-based civil rights group. "And we would follow up to see if there was probable cause for the search and if it was carried out in the appropriate and legal manner."

CAIR's ramping it up.

236 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:38:27am

The damage to the Republican Party continues unabated:

Republicans Edge Ahead of Democrats in 2010 Vote
Registered voters prefer Republicans for the House, 48% to 44%
by Jeffrey M. Jones

PRINCETON, NJ -- Republicans have moved ahead of Democrats by 48% to 44% among registered voters in the latest update on Gallup's generic congressional ballot for the 2010 House elections, after trailing by six points in July and two points last month.
...
As was the case in last Tuesday's gubernatorial elections, independents are helping the Republicans' cause. In the latest poll, independent registered voters favor the Republican candidate by 52% to 30%. Both parties maintain similar loyalty from their bases, with 91% of Democratic registered voters preferring the Democratic candidate and 93% of Republican voters preferring the Republican.
...
Over the course of the year, independents' preference for the Republican candidate in their districts has grown, from a 1-point advantage in July to the current 22-point gap.
...
Bottom Line

Roughly a year before the 2010 midterm elections, Republicans seem well-positioned to win back some of their congressional losses in 2006 and 2008. Independents are increasingly coming to prefer the Republican candidate for Congress, and now favor the GOP by 22 points. Political conditions could still shift between now and Election Day to create a more favorable environment for Democratic candidates, but a Republican lead on the generic ballot among registered voters has been a sign of a strong Republican showing at the polls in the coming election.

237 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:41:00am

re: #224 Guanxi88

And, why the bloody hell did they wait FIVE days to search that garbage? More PC pussy-footing?

238 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:41:21am

Think President Obama will have them sit down over some beers for another teachable moment?

A prominent Columbia architecture professor punched a female university employee in the face at a Harlem bar during a heated argument about race relations, cops said yesterday.

Police busted Lionel McIntyre, 59, for assault yesterday after his bruised victim, Camille Davis, filed charges.

McIntyre and Davis, who works as a production manager in the school's theater department, are both regulars at Toast, a popular university bar on Broadway and 125th Street, sources said.

The professor, who is black, had been engaged in a fiery discussion about "white privilege" with Davis, who is white, and another male regular, who is also white, Friday night at 10:30 when fists started flying, patrons said.

McIntyre, who is known as "Mac" at the bar, shoved Davis, and when the other patron and a bar employee tried to break it up, the prof slugged Davis in the face, witnesses said.

"The punch was so loud, the kitchen workers in the back heard it over all the noise," bar back Richie Velez, 28, told The Post. "I was on my way over when he punched Camille and she fell on top of me."

The other patron involved in the dispute said McIntyre then took a swing at him after he yelled, "You don't hit a woman!"

"He knocked the glasses right off my face," said the man, who would only give his first name as "Shannon." "The punch came out of nowhere. Mac was talking to us about white privilege and what I was doing about it -- apparently I wasn't doing enough."

239 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:41:32am

Oh, and Hoopie-the-shit-slinging monkey can bite me.

240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:41:37am

re: #229 ralphieboy

When someone posts something with more than three paragraphs, and I don't spot egregious spelling errors or problems with usage/grammar... I kind of think they spent an hour using Word or something...

I prefer those who type it out as they think it. If there's a boo-boo? So be it.

241 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:43:25am

re: #239 MandyManners

Oh, and Hoopie-the-shit-slinging monkey can bite me.

in bed?

242 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:43:26am

re: #238 Guanxi88

Will he be charged with a hate crime? It sounds like one to me.

243 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:43:44am

re: #240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When someone posts something with more than three paragraphs, and I don't spot egregious spelling errors or problems with usage/grammar... I kind of think they spent an hour using Word or something...

I prefer those who type it out as they think it. If there's a boo-boo? So be it.

Then you mush be in love with some of my comments.

244 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:43:58am

re: #241 Mad Al-Jaffee

in bed?

I'd rather be dead.

245 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:44:33am

re: #242 MandyManners

Will he be charged with a hate crime? It sounds like one to me.

Why would he be?

246 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:44:40am

re: #242 MandyManners

Will he be charged with a hate crime? It sounds like one to me.

No, he was just entering a forceful argument against white privilege.

247 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:44:47am

re: #243 Walter L. Newton

Then you mush be in love with some of my comments.

Of coarse I am. Your the bset!

248 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:45:27am

re: #245 Walter L. Newton

Why would he be?

They were discussing race relations. He shoved her and then punched her. He's black. She's white.

249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:45:32am

re: #245 Walter L. Newton

Why would he be?

If a white guy was spouting off in a bar against blacks, and punched a black in the face?...

250 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:46:06am

re: #239 MandyManners

Don't know who that is.

251 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:46:19am

From the arch-nemesis of Obama, ally of Beck, and probable Tea Party organizer, the Boston Globe

That longtime Conservative newspaper!

Below is a list of all the Republican Presidential candidates they've endorsed in the general election in the last 60 years:

(end of list)

252 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:46:48am

re: #250 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't know who that is.

Hoopie is Ibrahim Hooper, national communications director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

253 filetandrelease  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:47:10am

re: #246 Guanxi88

No, he was just entering a forceful argument against white privilege.

And punched a women in the face. Apparently very hard. What a punk.

254 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:47:22am

re: #252 MandyManners

Oh. Don't want him biting me.

255 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:47:37am

[Link: www.fox4kc.com...]

"BATES CITY, MO - An investigation into child sex crimes now requires the help of cadaver dogs. Police are expected to search for bodies on a stretch of farm property near Bates City, Missouri after five people were arrested on child sex charges Tuesday.

According to authorities, the five were arrested on active warrants for sex crimes against children.

Burrell Edward Mohler Sr., 77, Independence, Missouri, is charged with five counts of child rape. Burrell Edward Mohler Jr., 53, also of Independence, is charged with three counts of child rape. David A. Mohler, 52, Lamoni, Iowa, is charged with one count of child rape. Jared Leroy Mohler, 48, Columbia, Missouri, is charged with four counts of child rape, and Roland Neil Mohler, 47, Bates City, Missouri, faces one charge of felony use of a child in a sexual performance."

Evil seems to be a family affair with these pieces of filth.

256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:47:40am

re: #253 filetandrelease

And punched a women in the face. Apparently very hard. What a punk.

SHE WAS WEARING GLASSES! OH NOES!

258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:48:42am

re: #257 Killgore Trout

WHOOPS!

259 filetandrelease  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:48:47am

re: #256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

SHE WAS WEARING GLASSES! OH NOES!


Ahh, I get it now, she had that Palin look going on and it incited his anger.

260 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:49:28am

re: #256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

SHE WAS WEARING GLASSES! OH NOES!

I think the man he punched was the one wearing glasses. He was white, too.

261 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:49:36am

re: #249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If a white guy was spouting off in a bar against blacks, and punched a black woman in the face?...

My earlier point about mistakes is made again.

262 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:49:57am

re: #248 MandyManners

They were discussing race relations. He shoved her and then punched her. He's black. She's white.

You already answered you own question.

I asked a similar question the other day, on a local community blog, with a lot of progressives on the blog... I asked if Hasan was not military, and if he was subject to the standard public laws, whould hate crimes charges be added to his list of alleged crimes.

Crickets... not one single answer. They didn't want to touch that one. It didn't fit their model.

263 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:50:54am

re: #260 MandyManners

I think the man he punched was the one wearing glasses. He was white, too.

Sounds racial to me.

264 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:51:03am

re: #249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If a white guy was spouting off in a bar against blacks, and punched a black in the face?...

I'd have to listen to how my conservative views are part of larger climate of hate that is tearing this country apart.

265 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:52:07am

re: #257 Killgore Trout

Busted...
Jon Stewart Catches Sean Hannity Falsifying Footage To Make GOP Protest Appear Bigger (VIDEO)

I don't know how to link to my LGF comment yesterday. That's the one
about Kos transcripts vs Fox video.

266 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:52:31am

re: #257 Killgore Trout

Busted...
Jon Stewart Catches Sean Hannity Falsifying Footage To Make GOP Protest Appear Bigger (VIDEO)

Good work, J. Stewart

{yawn} ,,, (((like it's SO uncommon to use file footage)))

267 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:52:40am
268 filetandrelease  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:53:22am

"The punch was so loud, the kitchen workers in the back heard it over all the noise," bar back Richie Velez, 28, told The Post. "I was on my way over when he punched Camille and she fell on top of me."

He punched the woman.

269 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:53:22am

Muggers Return Wallet After Seeing Army ID

MILWAUKEE — A Milwaukee Army reservist's military identification earned him some street cred Tuesday, when he says four men who mugged him at gunpoint returned his belongings and thanked him for his service after finding the ID.

The 21-year-old University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee student said he was walking home from work about 1:15 a.m. Tuesday when he was pulled into an alley and told to lay face down and with a gun to his neck. Four men took his wallet, $16, keys, his cell phone and even a PowerBar wrapper from his pants pockets, he said.

But the hostile tone quickly changed when one of the robbers, whom the reservist presumed was the leader, saw an Army ID in the wallet. The robber told the others to return the items and they put most of his belongings on the ground next to him, including the wrapper, the reservist said.

"The guy continued to say throughout the situation that he respects what I do and at one point he actually thanked me and he actually apologized," said the reservist, who asked not to be identified Tuesday because the robbers still had his keys.

The reservist said he asked the men, who all had hoods or hats covering their faces, if he could get up and they said he could before starting to walk away.

"The leader of the group actually walked back, gave me a quick fist bump, which was very strange," he said.

270 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:54:51am

re: #268 filetandrelease

Brave little corksocker.

271 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:54:54am

re: #269 Guanxi88

We are breeding a better class of thief!!

272 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:55:21am

re: #266 sattv4u2

If it was file footage would you accept shots of Obama's inauguration? How about a code Pink anti-war protest?

273 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:56:13am

re: #271 Decatur Deb

We are breeding a better class of thief!!

Even low-lifes have some scruples.

274 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:58:03am

re: #267 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Look at the picture to the right. From 1982.

Frank Buckles, last known american Vet of WWI.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Guy was alos a WWII vet and was captured by the Japanese. Tough old bird.

275 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:58:31am

re: #272 Killgore Trout

If it was file footage would you accept shots of Obama's inauguration? How about a code Pink anti-war protest?

Actually, YES. Please remember who you're talking too. I see this on an HOURLY basis at work. WFile footgae passed through here from affiliates to NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX et al and then I later see it on the evening news and talp/ opinion shows later that night

276 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:59:02am

re: #262 Walter L. Newton

You already answered you own question.

I asked a similar question the other day, on a local community blog, with a lot of progressives on the blog... I asked if Hasan was not military, and if he was subject to the standard public laws, whould hate crimes charges be added to his list of alleged crimes.

Crickets... not one single answer. They didn't want to touch that one. It didn't fit their model.

I bet it made a LOT of people very uncomfortable.

277 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 7:59:23am

re: #263 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sounds racial to me.

Of course it was.

278 filetandrelease  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:00:07am

re: #270 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just once I would like to be present when something like that happens.

279 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:00:21am

re: #268 filetandrelease

"The punch was so loud, the kitchen workers in the back heard it over all the noise," bar back Richie Velez, 28, told The Post. "I was on my way over when he punched Camille and she fell on top of me."

He punched the woman.

And another bar patron.

280 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:01:39am
281 filetandrelease  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:01:56am

re: #279 MandyManners

And another bar patron.

A regular tough guy.

282 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:02:35am

re: #269 Guanxi88

That's one of the strangest things I've read in ages.

283 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:03:31am

re: #281 filetandrelease

A regular tough guy.

I wonder what his BAC level was.

284 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:04:19am

re: #262 Walter L. Newton

You already answered you own question.

I asked a similar question the other day, on a local community blog, with a lot of progressives on the blog... I asked if Hasan was not military, and if he was subject to the standard public laws, whould hate crimes charges be added to his list of alleged crimes.

Crickets... not one single answer. They didn't want to touch that one. It didn't fit their model.

I don't see a problem with a hate crime add-on if the prosecutors find the
criteria are met. Hasan probably has bigger problems, though.

285 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:05:00am

re: #269 Guanxi88

That was rather nice. After that perp is arrested and convicted, he should get a relatively pleasant cell.

286 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:05:43am

re: #275 sattv4u2

Actually, YES.


Lol, Then you're part of Fox's target audience then. Lying about the crowd size and showing fake footage doesn't bother you as long as it advances the cause. Congratulations.

287 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:06:05am

"It was a very unfortunate event," he said afterwards. "I didn't mean for it to explode the way it did."

Oh, c'mon, man. Take responsibility for your choice to batter. No one had a gun to your head. Calling it "unfortunate" is laying it at the feet of randomness.

288 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:07:18am

re: #286 Killgore Trout

Lol, Then you're part of Fox's target audience then. Lying about the crowd size and showing fake footage doesn't bother you as long as it advances the cause. Congratulations.

You took what he said out of context.

Please remember who you're talking too. I see this on an HOURLY basis at work. WFile footgae passed through here from affiliates to NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX et al and then I later see it on the evening news and talp/ opinion shows later that night

289 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:07:25am

re: #287 MandyManners

He should said he acted "stupidly."

290 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:08:11am

re: #289 Mad Al-Jaffee

Should HAVE said.

PIMF

291 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:08:13am

re: #286 Killgore Trout

Lol, Then you're part of Fox's target audience then. Lying about the crowd size and showing fake footage doesn't bother you as long as it advances the cause. Congratulations.

So, exactly how long after the Network of Evil goes off the air will it be before we no longer have to listen to hourly broadsides against it from you?

292 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:08:18am

re: #289 Mad Al-Jaffee

He should said he acted "stupidly."

Will there be a teachable moment out of this?

293 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:09:12am

re: #286 Killgore Trout

Lol, Then you're part of Fox's target audience then. Lying about the crowd size and showing fake footage doesn't bother you as long as it advances the cause. Congratulations.

And once again. you failed to read and or understand one thing I wrote

Congratulations

ALL news orgs do this
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM

Standard practice. Has been for longer than the 20+ YEARS I've been in this industry!

294 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:09:23am

re: #280 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hope y'all can take the time to read that, in case you haven't before.

295 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:09:33am

re: #286 Killgore Trout

Lol, Then you're part of Fox's target audience then. Lying about the crowd size and showing fake footage doesn't bother you as long as it advances the cause. Congratulations.

re: #291 Guanxi88

So, exactly how long after the Network of Evil goes off the air will it be before we no longer have to listen to hourly broadsides against it from you?

Just because Anit Dunn has moved on to bigger and better things, this doesn't mean that the White House won't continue its pissing match with a major network. Relax, Obama's got it covered.

296 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:09:36am

re: #291 Guanxi88

see 293

297 SteveC  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:09:54am

You lizards better get you Swine Flu shot!

Messiah contracts Swine Flu

298 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:10:48am

Hmmm, the Fox news fans are angry this morning. No worries, Glenn Beck is supposed to be back on the air today.

299 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:10:59am

re: #297 SteveC

You lizards better get you Swine Flu shot!

Messiah contracts Swine Flu

That's a weird headline, to say the least.

300 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:11:42am

re: #293 sattv4u2

And once again. you failed to read and or understand one thing I wrote

Congratulations

ALL news orgs do this
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM

Standard practice. Has been for longer than the 20+ YEARS I've been in this industry!

Aren't they normally expected to identify file footage with a tag?

301 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:11:49am

re: #298 Killgore Trout

Hmmm, the Fox news fans are angry this morning. No worries, Glenn Beck is supposed to be back on the air today.

Then you won't have to keep recycling your complaints or speculating as to what he will or won't say or do to offend against all sense of decency, taste, and the public weal. Bully for you.

302 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:12:10am

re: #298 Killgore Trout

Hmmm, the Fox news fans are angry this morning. No worries, Glenn Beck is supposed to be back on the air today.

So? I don't watch him. I have the ability to discern.

303 SteveC  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:12:32am

re: #299 Guanxi88

That's a weird headline, to say the least.

I'm thinking that it went through an online translator, but the body of the article reads fine.

Spooky, though!

304 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:12:56am

re: #302 MandyManners

So? I don't watch him. I have the ability to discern.

No, clearly you don't, otherwise he wouldn't be so concerned about it.

305 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:13:56am

I wonder if there shouldn't be a sort of Godwin's Law for Beck and references to same. They seem to serve much the same purposes as references to the subject of the original version, and add exactly as much value to the discussion.

306 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:14:39am

re: #269 Guanxi88

How incredible is that story, amazing.

307 pragmatist  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:15:01am

Either the BBC or ABBAS is deluded.

Wait a second ... I'm sure both of them are.

From BBC Website extolling the heroism of Yaaser Arafat and his murders of the innocents...

"'Any deal had to be based on the 1967 ceasefire line that defined the West Bank and Gaza Strip', Mr Abbas said."

Uh ... wasn't the 1967 ceasefire line all of Judea, Samaria, Gaza District, the Golan Heights and the entire Sinai Desert? Does Abbas mean say that all of that should belong to Israel? Is Abbas really a closet Zionist? Or is the BBC full of c**p on this quote too?

Just wondering ...

308 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:15:15am

re: #298 Killgore Trout

Hmmm, the Fox news fans are angry this morning. No worries, Glenn Beck is supposed to be back on the air today.

And, how is disagreeing with you an indication that people are angry?

309 SteveC  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:15:22am

I got the H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine, and have felt no ill effects - except for the occasional urge to roll in mud puddles.

My friends who have had a heart valve replaced with a pig valve tell me this is normal and I will get used to it.

310 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:15:51am

re: #298 Killgore Trout

Hmmm, the Fox news fans are angry this morning. No worries, Glenn Beck is supposed to be back on the air today.

hehehehe.. I'm a "fan" of ALL the news broadcasters. We don't discriminate who wants to use of fiber/ satellite/ teleport services as long as they pay us in a timely manner.

At this very moment, I'm doing services for ABC, CNN, Bloomberg, IIS (Illinios Information Service) CNN International, ESPN, KDDI (Japanese) and later all the others will need something

But thanks for playing!

311 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:15:55am

re: #302 MandyManners

So? I don't watch him. I have the ability to discern.

Without the help of the state? You are asking for a trip to the Ministry of Love... Room 101 for you sister.

312 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:16:14am

re: #304 Guanxi88

No, clearly you don't, otherwise he wouldn't be so concerned about it.

Watch out. You're making me angry.

*stomps widdle foot*

313 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:16:20am

re: #309 SteveC

*snort*

314 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:16:47am

re: #307 pragmatist

Link?

315 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:17:33am

re: #300 Decatur Deb

Aren't they normally expected to identify file footage with a tag?

Nope. There is no set (industry standard) practice.

A news paper photo must have the credit, but file footage (unless copyrighted) is open to any requestor

316 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:18:07am

re: #308 MandyManners

I just haven't seen this much support for Fox News here in a while.

317 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:18:35am

re: #315 sattv4u2

Nope. There is no set (industry standard) practice.

A news paper photo must have the credit, but file footage (unless copyrighted) is open to any requestor

I know this is a howler, but how about journalistic ethics?

318 SteveC  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:18:39am

re: #313 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

*snort*

You got the Swine Flu vaccine, too?

319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:18:42am

re: #316 Killgore Trout

I don't support them, but I support their right to broadcast.

I just don't watch them.

320 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:18:53am

re: #302 MandyManners

So? I don't watch him. I have the ability to discern.

Well, that appears to be one thing you have over Ms. Dunn and the White House Press office, who cannot distinguish between the Fox Network and Fox News, and the opinion and news pieces on each.

321 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:19:34am

re: #319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't support them, but I support their right to broadcast. I just don't watch them.

Can't have that. Not here.

322 SteveC  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:19:39am

re: #317 Decatur Deb

I know this is a howler, but how about journalistic ethics?

It was fun while it lasted!

323 albusteve  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:20:02am

FEMA!

324 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:20:05am

re: #316 Killgore Trout

I just haven't seen this much support for Fox News here in a while.

You don't look at the Nielsens often, do you? And I'm still at a loss to understand why EVERY SINGLE DAY from you it's the same thing. What exactly is it that Fox has done to you that you are compelled to swing for the fences and run down mazes looking for evidence of perfidy?

325 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:20:18am

re: #278 filetandrelease

Just once I would like to be present when something like that happens.

I was in a bar with a group of my fellow army buddies. When we walked out the place a man right in front of us turned around and busted some woman right in the mouth. He literally knocked her teeth out. Before he could get away 4 of my buddies had him on the ground, they were still teaching him some manners when the cops showed up.

//in b4 cool story bro!

326 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:20:22am

re: #316 Killgore Trout

I just haven't seen this much support for Fox News here in a while.

Some of us are weary of the "it's only wrong when conservatives do it" meme.

327 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:20:40am

re: #323 albusteve

FEMA!

But, I don't wanna go to camp!

328 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:20:49am

re: #311 Walter L. Newton

Without the help of the state? You are asking for a trip to the Ministry of Love... Room 101 for you sister.

What's that got to do with it?


329 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:20:49am

re: #319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't support them, but I support their right to broadcast.

I just don't watch them.

Is support their right to broadcast, and their right to be mocked.

330 SteveC  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:21:20am

re: #323 albusteve

FEMA!

The large bone in your thigh? What's that got to do with anything? :)

331 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:21:33am

re: #317 Decatur Deb

re: #315 sattv4u2

Nope. There is no set (industry standard) practice.

A news paper photo must have the credit, but file footage (unless copyrighted) is open to any requestor

ADDENDUM... IF the footage is from a competitor, you will see s "Courtesy Of,,, " attached

i.e, if NBC had the only camera at a (God forbid) plane crash, they could agree to be the "pool" camera for it and if CBS/ABC et al wanted pictures they would have their own reporters voice with NBCs images and "Footage Courtesy Of NBC" superimposed

332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:21:39am

re: #324 Guanxi88

"perfidy"? are you serious?

333 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:22:16am

re: #329 Decatur Deb

Is=I

PIMF

334 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:22:17am

re: #317 Decatur Deb

I know this is a howler, but how about journalistic ethics?

hehehe ,,, you haven't been paying attention to "journalism" much in the past 15--20 years, huh !!???

//

335 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:22:17am

re: #332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"perfidy"? are you serious?

Yeah, I went there. :)

336 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:25:06am

re: #332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"perfidy"? are you serious?

re: #335 Guanxi88

Yeah, I went there. :)

Hey, us raving, drooling Beck cultists can easily get swept into a mindless frenzy of rage.

337 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:25:23am

re: #334 sattv4u2

hehehe ,,, you haven't been paying attention to "journalism" much in the past 15--20 years, huh !!???

//

Took a couple courses, but that was just a cow college, so ethics were
still in the lesson plans.

338 vxbush  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:27:35am

re: #337 Decatur Deb

Took a couple courses, but that was just a cow college, so ethics were
still in the lesson plans.

What is a "cow college"?

And good morning/afternoon/evening, everyone. /let's be inclusive

339 SteveC  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:27:56am

re: #331 sattv4u2

re: #315 sattv4u2

..."Footage Courtesy Of NBC" superimposed

New girlfriend told me she liked reality TV. Ok... everybody likes something, and as long as she wasn't a ravin' loon about it, that was cool. We got to her place, things got jumpstarted and she drug me into her bedroom. Above the bed she had a mirror -

-- with an NBC logo in the lower right hand corner.

//Back away from the crazy woman, Steve!

340 Spider Mensch  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:28:37am

re: #338 vxbush

What is a "cow college"?

And good morning/afternoon/evening, everyone. /let's be inclusive


University of Moo-souri??

341 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:29:14am

re: #338 vxbush

What is a "cow college"?

And good morning/afternoon/evening, everyone. /let's be inclusive

You forgot "everything." OBJECTS ARE PEOPLE, TOO!

How's it going with you?

342 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:29:15am

re: #339 SteveC

Above the bed she had a mirror -

-- with an NBC logo


Coulda been worse

Coulda been the CBS "EYE" !!!

343 filetandrelease  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:29:33am

re: #283 MandyManners

I wonder what his BAC level was.

It is funny how a high BAC level will revel ones inner self.

344 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:29:36am

re: #339 SteveC

New girlfriend told me she liked reality TV. Ok... everybody likes something, and as long as she wasn't a ravin' loon about it, that was cool. We got to her place, things got jumpstarted and she drug me into her bedroom. Above the bed she had a mirror -

-- with an NBC logo in the lower right hand corner.

//Back away from the crazy woman, Steve!

As a conservative I would never appear on NBC naked. Cspan, no problem.

345 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:29:41am

re: #338 vxbush

(*Christopher Walken impression*)

It's a college...with cows.

346 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:29:54am

re: #339 SteveC

New girlfriend told me she liked reality TV. Ok... everybody likes something, and as long as she wasn't a ravin' loon about it, that was cool. We got to her place, things got jumpstarted and she drug me into her bedroom. Above the bed she had a mirror -

-- with an NBC logo in the lower right hand corner.

//Back away from the crazy woman, Steve!

Wha'?

347 albusteve  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:29:59am

another stimulus...but wait!

[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com...]

348 SteveC  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:30:10am

re: #338 vxbush

What is a "cow college"?

State sponsored college/university that has/had a predominant agricultural program. Examples around here are Clemson, NC State.

349 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:30:16am

re: #339 SteveC

Did the mirror also have a Objects May Appear Closer sign too!?!?!

350 jaunte  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:30:16am

re: #338 vxbush

What is a "cow college"?


They have lots of intramooral activities. And some usage of grass.

351 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:30:17am

re: #343 filetandrelease

It is funny how a high BAC level will revel ones inner self.

In vino veritas.

352 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:31:03am

re: #350 jaunte

They have lots of intramooral activities. And some usage of grass.

Oh, that's just a lot of bull.

353 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:31:27am

re: #338 vxbush

What is a "cow college"?

(snip)

A community college in KY that got me back into school after Army. I owe
them my life(style).

354 vxbush  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:31:31am

re: #341 MandyManners

You forgot "everything." OBJECTS ARE PEOPLE, TOO!

How's it going with you?

Eh. I have good days, I have bad days. I have customers within the company who have decided that it is my job to make sure they don't screw up, even though I only work with them once every two weeks or so for a few minutes each time. Health is what it is. And I'm trying to figure out what to get everyone for Christmas, and I'm hitting a snag with the hubby.

355 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:31:35am

re: #347 albusteve

another stimulus...but wait!

[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com...]

Never happen - not in my lifetime, and not in the lifetime of my grandchildren.

356 jaunte  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:31:49am

re: #352 MandyManners

Sorry about lowing the tone of the thread.

357 filetandrelease  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:31:58am

re: #351 MandyManners

In vino veritas.


Excellent!

358 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:32:32am

re: #349 sattv4u2

Did the mirror also have a Objects May Appear Closer sign too!?!?!

No... Objects May Appear Bigger than the Really Are.

359 carefulnow  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:32:35am

re: #352 MandyManners

GRAZE.

360 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:32:55am

re: #352 MandyManners

Don't have a cow.

361 SteveC  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:33:10am

re: #349 sattv4u2

Did the mirror also have a Objects May Appear Closer sign too!?!?!

No... and her "objects" were already like Kodak Film.

Nicely developed.

362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:34:02am

re: #349 sattv4u2

Did the mirror also have a Objects May Appear Closer sign too!?!?!

See that "Far Side"? Monstrous gigantic eye in the rear view mirror, "Objects may be closer than they appear" at the bottom of the mirror.

363 filetandrelease  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:34:08am

re: #360 lawhawk

Don't have a cow.


Ok, this is udderly ridiculous.

364 albusteve  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:34:10am

re: #355 Guanxi88

Never happen - not in my lifetime, and not in the lifetime of my grandchildren.

BO will save us...by doing exactly the wrong thing!...life is crazy that way, meanwhile Glenn Beck continues his ruinous rampage across the American airwaves

365 carefulnow  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:34:23am

re: #360 lawhawk

You're jut milking it for all it's worth, aren't you?

366 Ojoe  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:34:37am

re: #224 Guanxi88

You can try and avoid it all you want, but we are at war with some entity here which is a sort of religion.

367 StillAMarine  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:34:56am

re: #350 jaunte

They have lots of intramooral activities. And some usage of grass.

Heh, heh, heh. Good on you for that!

368 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:35:23am

re: #354 vxbush

Eh. I have good days, I have bad days. I have customers within the company who have decided that it is my job to make sure they don't screw up, even though I only work with them once every two weeks or so for a few minutes each time. Health is what it is. And I'm trying to figure out what to get everyone for Christmas, and I'm hitting a snag with the hubby.

I'm done with my shopping. For your hubby, why not a lot of Christmas wrapper and a big bow (if you get my drift)?

369 war_eagle  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:35:38am

re: #353 Decatur Deb

Wow, someone from Decatur that went to a cow college that wasn't Auburn. That is surprising.

370 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:36:12am
371 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:36:15am

re: #356 jaunte

Sorry about lowing the tone of the thread.

I'll not roast you.

372 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:36:29am

re: #368 MandyManners

I'm done with my shopping. For your hubby, why not a lot of Christmas wrapper and a big bow (if you get my drift)?

That is exactly what I want for christmas, all wrapped around a hooker.

373 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:36:33am

re: #357 filetandrelease

Excellent!

Thank you. Thank you very much.

374 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:36:37am

re: #365 carefulnow

You're jut milking it for all it's worth, aren't you?

Moooving right along...

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank all the veterans out there. Thanks for all you have done, and all you are doing (if you're on active duty). We don't say it enough...

375 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:37:13am

re: #359 carefulnow

GRAZE.

Cud you please reconsider?

376 AK-47%  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:38:16am

Have we done the commo-o-o-o-nity college pun yet?

377 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:38:19am

re: #369 war_eagle

Wow, someone from Decatur that went to a cow college that wasn't Auburn. That is surprising.

I sent two kids and a lot of money to Auburn. They should name a
building for me--maybe a bar near Toomey's corner.

378 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:39:06am

re: #360 lawhawk

Don't have a cow.

Don't be udderly ridiculous.

379 SteveC  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:39:18am

re: #372 RogueOne

That is exactly what I want for christmas, all wrapped around a hooker.

All I got for Christmas last year was a sweater. I wanted a moaner or a screamer!

380 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:39:32am

re: #363 filetandrelease

Ok, this is udderly ridiculous.

Oh, shit. GET OUTTA' MAH HAID.

381 vxbush  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:39:44am

re: #368 MandyManners

I'm done with my shopping. For your hubby, why not a lot of Christmas wrapper and a big bow (if you get my drift)?

I have so many comebacks to your suggestion I can't decide which one to use.

382 carefulnow  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:39:54am

re: #375 MandyManners

It's just not all that amoosing.

383 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:40:34am

re: #372 RogueOne

That is exactly what I want for christmas, all wrapped around a hooker.

Your wife wouldn't object?

384 filetandrelease  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:40:38am

re: #380 MandyManners

Oh, shit. GET OUTTA' MAH HAID.

Oh wow, very dangerous in here.

385 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:40:54am

re: #377 Decatur Deb

I sent two kids and a lot of money to Auburn. They should name a
building for me--maybe a bar near Toomey's corner.

A neighborhood bar named a drink for me. "Fat Man's Folly" it was called. Served in a highball glass, on the rocks:

Three jiggers geneva gin
8 dashes Angostura bitters
1 Jigger cheap-ass applejack
Topped with ginger beer (not ginger ale)
Garnish with slice of lime.

386 SteveC  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:41:15am

re: #382 carefulnow

It's just not all that amoosing.

From the badlands came the killer, he lived by his knife and the gun.
He'd cut you just for standing, and shoot you if you tried to run.
He was as big as a tree, and did what he pleased, and everything he did was bad.
They said if you was to kill him, it'd only make him mad.

From the goodlands came the cowgirl, Patti was her name.
She was hot on the trail of that killer on a moped she called Flame.
Cause the killer had killed her daddy just for spittin' in the road,
And you only had to kill her daddy once to get that girl p.o.'d.

Yippee-i-ay - Cow Patti!
Yippee-i-ay - Cow Patti!
She rode into town to find the man that killed her daddy!
Yippee-i-ay - Cow Patti!

The killer hit town at daybreak, ate the door off the local saloon.
He started to drinkin' and you could tell he was thinkin'
There'd be a showdown soon.
Patti hit town in a cloud of dust, old Flame was buzzin' like a saw.
And the whole town got quiet as a church when the killer stepped out for the draw.

Forty shots rang out. Forty people fell.
Patti and the killer missed each other but they shot the town to hell!
The killer took a step toward Patti, said, "It's time I gunned you down"!
But he slipped in something that was laying in the street
And was shot before he hit the ground.
Yes, the killer slipped and it cost him his life
And Patti said as she raced out of town:
"You got to watch your step, when you know the chips are down."

387 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:41:23am

re: #379 SteveC

All I got for Christmas last year was a sweater. I wanted a moaner or a screamer!

*rimshot*

388 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:41:42am

re: #385 Guanxi88

Man, that sounds New England.

389 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:41:45am

re: #381 vxbush

I have so many comebacks to your suggestion I can't decide which one to use.

Pick one.

390 njdhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:42:11am

Woman Discovers Swastikas In Wrapping Paper Pattern


ALTAMONTE, Fla. (NBC) -- A Florida woman says her Christmas wrapping is full of swastikas. Casey Lehman says she bought a roll of wrapping paper at a shopping mall in Altamonte, Florida in October.

She said it looked innocent enough until she unrolled it this week and found the paper pattern contained swastikas.

When she showed the paper to her fiance, they agreed that the paper's design was inappropriate.

The mall manager said the wrapping paper at his store is made in China and he buys it from wholesale vendors in New York and Los Angeles.

The manager said he is making sure they no longer sell the paper.

391 albusteve  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:42:41am

According to Morris P. Fiorina, a political science professor at Stanford University, Americans are not as far apart on the issues as you might think—or, more to the point, as the media portray them to be.

[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

get those liberals away from me!

392 carefulnow  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:42:49am

re: #386 SteveC

I'd butter stop now.

393 vxbush  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:42:53am

re: #389 MandyManners

Pick one.

The last time I gave him that gift, he asked where he could return it.
/

394 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:43:08am

re: #390 njdhockeyfan

Woman Discovers Swastikas In Wrapping Paper Pattern

Somebody in purchasing's gonna get fired.

395 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:43:42am

re: #392 carefulnow

I'd butter stop now.

It's time to drive a steak through this thread.

396 njdhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:43:47am

'Mein Kampf' makes 24-hour appearance in Apple's App Store

Apple Inc. on Friday approved for sale a Spanish-language eBook version of Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf, complete with a swastika application icon.
The iPhone app which was on...

A day later, presumably due to the blogosphere uproar, the $1.99 offering disappeared from the Apple's Application Store.

397 SteveC  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:43:49am

re: #391 albusteve

get those liberals away from me!

Can't we all just get along?

398 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:44:05am

re: #382 carefulnow

It's just not all that amoosing.

But, it was out standing in the field.

399 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:44:21am

re: #384 filetandrelease

Oh wow, very dangerous in here.

OOGA BOOGA!

400 sattv4u2  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:44:22am

re: #390 njdhockeyfan

Woman Discovers Swastikas In Wrapping Paper Pattern

Haver her call back when she gets one that looks like the Virgin Mary, so the press can ridicule her!

401 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:44:32am

re: #383 MandyManners

I have a very firm "don't ask, don't tell" policy. If she doesn't ask, I'm not telling.

402 albusteve  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:44:56am

re: #397 SteveC

Can't we all just get along?

not me, I'm deranged

403 carefulnow  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:45:06am

re: #395 Decatur Deb

Yeah, let's give it the hoof.

404 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:45:21am

re: #393 vxbush

The last time I gave him that gift, he asked where he could return it.
/

Didha' whack him hard?

405 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:45:38am

re: #388 Decatur Deb

Man, that sounds New England.

Boston it was. A great drink, if a little rough on the nervous system after the second one. Still, quite nice. Bar-keep wrote it down, since it was a little something I'd made up at home once from desperation, and he agreed it had a really nice, "old-time" flavor to it. Being somewhat husky myself, he affixed a suitably insulting name to the drink, and it became, briefly, THE thing to try.

406 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:46:01am

re: #403 carefulnow

Yeah, let's give it the hoof.

Now what's your beef?

407 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:46:12am

re: #392 carefulnow

I'd butter stop now.

Yeah, you're toast.

408 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:46:13am

re: #390 njdhockeyfan

Woman Discovers Swastikas In Wrapping Paper Pattern

Has anyone linked this to RSM yet?

/

409 SteveC  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:46:19am

re: #402 albusteve

not me, I'm deranged

Someone stole your oven? Hell, I'd be mad, too!

410 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:46:32am

re: #395 Decatur Deb

It's time to drive a steak through this thread.

And yet, it just keeps churning away.

411 vxbush  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:46:34am

re: #404 MandyManners

Didha' whack him hard?

Didn't need to. Ignored him for a week. That took care of the problem.

412 carefulnow  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:46:59am

re: #399 MandyManners

OOGA BOOGA!

That's just grazy talk!

413 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:47:04am

re: #405 Guanxi88

Is there a "bar" section in the new cookbook?

414 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:47:47am

re: #413 Decatur Deb

Is there a "bar" section in the new cookbook?

I don't know. I'd imagine there is, though, given the fact that may Lizards are known to take the occasional drink, in order to be friendly, and under extreme social pressure.

415 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:48:32am

re: #414 Guanxi88

Has to be pretty extreme for me.

And special occasions. Kind of like now.

416 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:48:42am

re: #411 vxbush

Didn't need to. Ignored him for a week. That took care of the problem.

Hope he liked the couch.

417 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:48:55am

re: #411 vxbush

Didn't need to. Ignored him for a week. That took care of the problem.

You replaced it with the gift of silence? Having your spouse not talk to you for a week isn't really punishing for the husband.
//

418 carefulnow  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:49:20am

re: #406 Decatur Deb

Some of the jokes are offal!

419 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:49:48am

re: #412 carefulnow

That's just grazy talk!

Oh, I have no come-back for that.

*bows*

420 SteveC  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:49:49am

re: #413 Decatur Deb

Is there a "bar" section in the new cookbook?

re: #414 Guanxi88

I don't know. I'd imagine there is, though, given the fact that may Lizards are known to take the occasional drink, in order to be friendly, and under extreme social pressure.

I read "bar section" and I thought "Food so bad that if you make it, someone's gonna sue!"

421 vxbush  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:50:12am

re: #416 MandyManners

Hope he liked the couch.

He hates it. After two days he'd had enough and realized the errors of his ways.

But you can see why I'm hesitant to give that gift again. I can get him clothing from his favorite university, but that doesn't have much "oomph" in it.

422 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:50:24am

re: #413 Decatur Deb

Is there a "bar" section in the new cookbook?

I and my bottle of Basil Hayden's are on the cover of the first one.

423 SixDegrees  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:50:38am

re: #390 njdhockeyfan

Woman Discovers Swastikas In Wrapping Paper Pattern

Looks like this is the Hindu version of the symbol. I doubt very much that whoever designed the paper had the Nazi version in mind.

424 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:51:30am

re: #423 SixDegrees

Looks like this is the Hindu version of the symbol. I doubt very much that whoever designed the paper had the Nazi version in mind.

Yeah, the buddhists been using it, like everybody else in the world, since time immemorial. Trust an evil Kraut to screw that one up for everyone.

425 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:51:40am

re: #421 vxbush

He hates it. After two days he'd had enough and realized the errors of his ways.

But you can see why I'm hesitant to give that gift again. I can get him clothing from his favorite university, but that doesn't have much "oomph" in it.

Boxers with the logo?

426 vxbush  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:51:41am

re: #417 RogueOne

You replaced it with the gift of silence? Having your spouse not talk to you for a week isn't really punishing for the husband.
//

Heh.

427 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:52:02am

I just found out my car work is going to cost around $1050. I guess that's what you get when you buy used and don't have a warranty. Still beats putting a couple or more thousand down on a new car.

428 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:52:09am

re: #421 vxbush

But you can see why I'm hesitant to give that gift again. I can get him clothing from his favorite university, but that doesn't have much "oomph" in it.

How old is he, because Left4Dead2 comes out next week. I've been reminding my wife for weeks now.

429 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:52:14am

re: #423 SixDegrees

Looks like this is the Hindu version of the symbol. I doubt very much that whoever designed the paper had the Nazi version in mind.

Hindus celebrate Christmas?

430 vxbush  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:52:16am

re: #425 MandyManners

Boxers with the logo?

Nope. He doesn't do boxers.

431 carefulnow  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:52:32am

re: #419 MandyManners

Well now I've herd everything.

(Bowing back.)

432 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:52:40am

re: #418 carefulnow

Some of the jokes are offal!

We render it for the glue that holds us together.

433 njdhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:52:45am

Wounded soldier gives play by play of Fort Hood shooting

KILLEEN - Spc. Logan Burnette met with the media outside Metroplex Hospital Wednesday morning where he recanted the details of the shooting rampage on Fort Hood.

Burnette told the crowd that he did nothing more than any of the other soldiers there. He said he did not want to be called a hero because, "there's soldiers dying in Iraq and Afghanistan...they're the heroes."

Burnette remembers sitting in a room of about 30 chairs in the soldiers' readiness center when "one of the soldiers stood up, shouted 'Allahu Akbar' and opened fire into fellow soldiers"

He says soldiers immediately began fighting back against the gunman, some throwing chairs at him. Burnette was shot in the hip as he attempted to subdue the gunman. "I threw... a folding table at him...," Burnette said, "that's when I was hit in the hip."

The soldier then took cover in a cubical with three other soldiers until they decided to run for cover. "We could hear him on the other side of the building...he was a fast reloader."

Burnette then made his way to the door when he collapsed. "I threw my entire body weight against the door," he said. A fellow soldier then helped him to his feet and out the door.

Spc. Burnette says now he hopes to relax, he asked that phone calls "be less," so he and his family could relax.

Good to see they fought back against that islamic murderer.

434 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:52:57am

re: #430 vxbush

Nope. He doesn't do boxers.

Tighty-whities?

Oh, never mind. TMI.

435 SixDegrees  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:53:05am

re: #429 MandyManners

Hindus celebrate Christmas?

Everyone celebrates secular Christmas. Especially those with something to sell, like wrapping paper.

436 vxbush  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:53:24am

re: #428 RogueOne

How old is he, because Left4Dead2 comes out next week. I've been reminding my wife for weeks now.

Not so old that he doesn't mind gaming, but he's more into Wolfenstein. I know very little about Left4Dead2.

437 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:53:24am

re: #422 MandyManners

I and my bottle of Basil Hayden's are on the cover of the first one.

I've always assumed that the bottle of "Fat Bastard" on the table was for me. If I'm wrong, I hope no one corrects me.

438 filetandrelease  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:53:26am

re: #395 Decatur Deb

It's time to drive a steak through this thread.

We're not finished milking it yet.

439 lawhawk  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:53:50am

The question of the hour (and of the day, week, month, and year to date) is who dropped the ball in the Hasan case. Finger pointing is already in vogue, and the DC 2-step is showing itself to be the top dance move as the FBI wants to blame the Army for dropping the ball, while the Army wants people to know that they were never informed b/c the FBI didn't want the Army to know.

President Obama is right to demand answers, but CYA is the order of business and he's got to get to the bottom of matters.

Why were emails to Awlaki ignored and treated as benign even though Awlaki was known to be an extremist with links to AQ and several of the 9/11 hijackers. The WSJ is also reporting that there are other emails to other extremists that will become known in the next few days and weeks. All this points to a growing mountain of evidence that there was something going on with Hasan, and yet the Army didn't know to even conduct an investigation into one of their own. The JTTF didn't do its job here - particularly in providing information on which members of the task force could use to act on to ferret out possible risks.

At a minimum, the increased scrutiny should have resulted in commanding officers to inquire about Hasan's actions at Walter Reed and whether there were issues with deployment.

440 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:53:52am

re: #427 Mad Al-Jaffee

It's all about perspective.

441 Guanxi88  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:54:13am

re: #429 MandyManners

Hindus celebrate Christmas?

C'mon - it's a sun symbol, an auspicious sign. Go into asia, or anywhere with a lot of folk from roughly East of Persia, and they're everywhere. I've got a Buddha with a swastika on his forehead, and he don't look like Charles Manson. Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, Jainists - everybody uses that symbol, and always have.

442 vxbush  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:54:18am

re: #434 MandyManners

Tighty-whities?

Oh, never mind. TMI.

Exactly. TMI. So: I need other ideas.

443 albusteve  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:54:47am

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called on the US to choose between Israel and Iran on Tuesday night, according to Iranian state media.

eenie meenie miney mo...

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

444 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:54:54am

re: #433 njdhockeyfan

Wounded soldier gives play by play of Fort Hood shooting


Good to see they fought back against that islamic murderer.

he was a fast reloader

Hmmm... I wonder if that was part of his training in which he did not get written up and get "counselling" from a superior.

445 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:55:17am

re: #435 SixDegrees

Everyone celebrates secular Christmas. Especially those with something to sell, like wrapping paper.

Ahhh...Capitalism.

446 albusteve  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:55:23am

re: #427 Mad Al-Jaffee

I just found out my car work is going to cost around $1050. I guess that's what you get when you buy used and don't have a warranty. Still beats putting a couple or more thousand down on a new car.

shoulda bought a VW

447 filetandrelease  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:55:30am

re: #399 MandyManners

OOGA BOOGA!

aaa (runs out what apparently is an ear lobe.)

448 carefulnow  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:55:53am

re: #432 Decatur Deb

We render it for the glue that holds us together.

I heifer splitting headache.

449 njdhockeyfan  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:55:55am

re: #443 albusteve

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called on the US to choose between Israel and Iran on Tuesday night, according to Iranian state media.

eenie meenie miney mo...

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Has the WH made a decision yet?

450 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:56:35am

re: #439 lawhawk

What the fuck happened to inter-agency cooperation and information-sharing?

451 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:57:03am

re: #448 carefulnow

I heifer splitting headache.

Tough it out. Hide your pain.

452 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:57:33am

re: #450 MandyManners

What the fuck happened to inter-agency cooperation and information-sharing?

No one was willing to grab the bull by the horns.

453 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:57:46am

re: #441 Guanxi88

C'mon - it's a sun symbol, an auspicious sign. Go into asia, or anywhere with a lot of folk from roughly East of Persia, and they're everywhere. I've got a Buddha with a swastika on his forehead, and he don't look like Charles Manson. Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, Jainists - everybody uses that symbol, and always have.

One of my Jewish friend's in college had a huge collection of spoons from all over the world. One had an eastern swastika on it. Freaked me out until she explained it.

454 albusteve  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:57:46am

re: #449 njdhockeyfan

Has the WH made a decision yet?

yes, I think so...details forthcoming

455 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:58:11am

re: #442 vxbush

Exactly. TMI. So: I need other ideas.

Big box of cash?

456 SteveC  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:58:29am

re: #417 RogueOne

You replaced it with the gift of silence? Having your spouse not talk to you for a week isn't really punishing for the husband.
//

My sister in law's sister is a Lab Tech at a local hospital. It's her day to work the ER. She's called but is told it is NOT an emergency. So she walks into the room where there is a teenager and her parents, gloves up, and looks at the patient chart before she begins.

The chart reads "Has not spoken to parents for past two days."

WTF? Donna, not wanting to step into the middle of a family problem, draws the blood and goes back to the lab. The blood is normal - a bit agitated, but normal!

457 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:58:42am

re: #450 MandyManners

What the fuck happened to inter-agency cooperation and information-sharing?


Someone's ox was being gored.

458 carefulnow  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:58:44am

re: #452 ausador

No one was willing to grab the bull by the horns.

That slaughtered it for me.

459 Irish Rose  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:59:11am

Is anyone except me following the H.R. 3548 (unemployment extension) debacle?

Congress screwed it up big time.

460 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 8:59:36am

re: #452 ausador

No one was willing to grab the bull by the horns.

They need to get over it. Now.

461 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 9:00:26am

re: #433 njdhockeyfan

Has anyone else seen this story about Ft. Hood? It's supposed to be all over but I can't find out who originally wrote it. It's a good accounting from their viewpoint about what happened but I'd like more info on where it actually came from. It's too long to post here, so I'll just leave a link:

[Link: www.theagitator.com...]

462 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 9:00:36am

re: #457 Decatur Deb

Someone's ox was being gored.

You win.

463 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 9:01:12am

re: #459 Irish Rose

Is anyone except me following the H.R. 3548 (unemployment extension) debacle?

Congress screwed it up big time.

The one that leaves huge blocks of time empty?

464 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 9:01:19am

re: #462 MandyManners

Good, 'cause I'm dry.

465 MandyManners  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 9:01:59am

Laundry.

466 webevintage  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 9:01:59am

re: #459 Irish Rose

Is anyone except me following the H.R. 3548 (unemployment extension) debacle?

Congress screwed it up big time.

what happened?

467 RogueOne  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 9:02:56am

re: #444 MandyManners

he was a fast reloader

Hmmm... I wonder if that was part of his training in which he did not get written up and get "counselling" from a superior.

The viewpoint I just lilnked to says the opposite, he was reloading like he was on the range. Slowly.

He starts reloading. He’s fiddling with his mags. Weirdly he hasn’t dropped the one that was in his weapon. He’s holding the fresh one and the old one (you do that on the range when time is not of the essence but in combat you would just let the old mag go).
468 vxbush  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 9:03:19am

re: #455 MandyManners

Big box of cash?

Hmm. Not a bad idea. That requires cash to begin with, though...

469 SteveC  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 9:03:34am

re: #450 MandyManners

What the fuck happened to inter-agency cooperation and information-sharing?

*Laughs uproariously* Have you been good? 'Cause if you have, maybe Santa will bring that for Christmas!

470 Decatur Deb  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 9:04:34am

re: #465 MandyManners

No, no, no, no...

471 Irish Rose  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 9:08:57am

re: #466 webevintage

what happened?

I don't usually do a direct link to my blog here, but in this case I will.

Congressional dunderheads screw up critical unemployment extension

Congress took so long to pass the bill that they trashed the time frame, and they're now going to have to take up a second piece of legislation to compensate for their stupidity.

472 webevintage  Wed, Nov 11, 2009 9:41:31am

re: #471 Irish Rose

I don't usually do a direct link to my blog here, but in this case I will.

Congressional dunderheads screw up critical unemployment extension

Congress took so long to pass the bill that they trashed the time frame, and they're now going to have to take up a second piece of legislation to compensate for their stupidity.

Thanks.
I had a feeling that that was the story.


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