That's a very true statement. And now its time for me to get to bed.

Goodnight, all.

Trouble in Mind, I'm blue, but I won't be blue always, cause the sun gonna shine in my back door some day.

And your enemies are always closer.

Take on a little water and the crowd thins,eh?

re: #4 nines09

Wha?

G'nite, Idioma. God loves you.

Hi guys. Quite a while since I've posted (I've been lurking though).

Just thought I'd weigh in with a couple of observations about the upcoming Swedish elections.. the latest polls have the semi-racist Sweden Democrats passing the 4% (of the popular vote) barrier for entry into parliament with some room to spare (about 5% or so). The theoretical danger is that they become a tiebreaker between the two blocs of parties, even though they've all sworn to never let that happen.

Even more interesting is the overwhelming amount of SD friendly comments left on any news remotely connected to politics on most of our major news sites. It strikes me as similar to the Ron Paul nutters ability to dominate any poll, even as their position remains a fringe element. At least I hope that's the case here.
The majority of those comments come from a right-wing (for us) perspective, frequently citing economic or social cohesion issues, very often with the illusive spectre of kowtowing to Islam as the backdrop. Oh, and throw in some "wake up people", "stop being PC" and "indoctrinated leftists" comments in there too. Frankly, most of what I read from the local web seem like a depressingly bad copypaste of what I read on anglosphere sites. :(

Anyway, that's what I had on my mind right now.

nah give up

re: #7 cenotaphium

Hi guys. Quite a while since I've posted (I've been lurking though).

Just thought I'd weigh in with a couple of observations about the upcoming Swedish elections.. the latest polls have the semi-racist Sweden Democrats passing the 4% (of the popular vote) barrier for entry into parliament with some room to spare (about 5% or so). The theoretical danger is that they become a tiebreaker between the two blocs of parties, even though they've all sworn to never let that happen.

Even more interesting is the overwhelming amount of SD friendly comments left on any news remotely connected to politics on most of our major news sites. It strikes me as similar to the Ron Paul nutters ability to dominate any poll, even as their position remains a fringe element. At least I hope that's the case here.
The majority of those comments come from a right-wing (for us) perspective, frequently citing economic or social cohesion issues, very often with the illusive spectre of kowtowing to Islam as the backdrop. Oh, and throw in some "wake up people", "stop being PC" and "indoctrinated leftists" comments in there too. Frankly, most of what I read from the local web seem like a depressingly bad copypaste of what I read on anglosphere sites. :(

Anyway, that's what I had on my mind right now.

Sounds about right, the nutjobs seem much more devoted to posting with more frequency and stridency than the average person. We need to develop a new "internet law" like Godwin's that explains for every 50 extremeist posts you read there is really only one physically fit and possibly dangerous poster. The rest are overweight couch potatoes who can't even walk up to their bedroom without getting winded or 13 year old boys trying to seem tough.

/ ;)

re: #7 cenotaphium

Not exactly relevant to your comment, but interesting: I noticed, that some fringe wingnuts in my country are raving on the Internet (on their blogs, comments in popular web portals) about NWO conspiracy, depopulation, vaccines, FED conspiracy, Bildenberg conspiracy etc. and they are talking like the paranoid wingnuts in US of A, sometimes putting a bit of twist.

Just think about this as an by-product of globalization.

re: #10 Areozol

Not exactly relevant to your comment, but interesting: I noticed, that some fringe wingnuts in my country are raving on the Internet (on their blogs, comments in popular web portals) about NWO conspiracy, depopulation, vaccines, FED conspiracy, Bildenberg conspiracy etc. and they are talking like the paranoid wingnuts in US of A, sometimes putting a bit of twist.

Just think about this as an by-product of globalization.

Sorry about that guys, but it is only going to get worse, the U.S. seems to be exporting mainly religious lunacy and Psychotic conspiracy theories these days...

re: #7 cenotaphium

You may not post often, but when you do it's well worth it. Thanks for the heads up on the far right craziness on the other side of the big pond.

I posted this on the sekrit thread. But it looks like that thread just died. So I'll repost here:

Hi gang. Just got back from NYC and the show I went to was too short, but of what it was, it was fabulous! I was able to record most of it, so I'm quite pleased. And New York is still gawgeous! I love that town. Coming down the Henry Hudson as the sun set over the Jersey side, and then coming out from the show to a city lit like jewels in the night sky. How could anyone not love this town?

re: #9 ausador

We need to develop a new "internet law" like Godwin's that explains for every 50 extremeist posts you read there is really only one physically fit and possibly dangerous poster. The rest are overweight couch potatoes who can't even walk up to their bedroom without getting winded or 13 year old boys trying to seem tough.

Hrm.. While I like this idea, I think an even better law would be some mathematical formula for sussing out how many real people are behind a set amount of comments, what with the popularity of sockpuppets.
Something like:
Ronulan Invasion: 100 comments to 1 poster.
PZ Meyers Poll Boost: 5 votes to 1 voter.
Forum for MPD: 1 comment to 2 posters.

re: #10 Areozol

Indeed, it sounds very familiar. I'm wondering if it's more a sign of how credulous people propagate their fiction? All those entries on Snopes had to pass through a number of people willing to suspend disbelief at some point, right? ;)
(Of course, that would indicate that the original yarnspinners are predominately American..)

re: #13 Irenicum

Who did you see?

re: #14 cenotaphium

Please do not forget that at least some of this is started by nothing more than a bored troll poster. I know, I started a full fledged "internet rumor" once when I was trolling the "Rapture Ready" board. I honestly did not think that anyone would be dumb enough to take me seriously, huh.

Next time you read about the U.S. census being used to target peoples houses for U.S. army artillery strikes, yeah, that was me...sorry.

re: #10 Areozol

Indeed, it sounds very familiar. I'm wondering if it's more a sign of how credulous people propagate their fiction? All those entries on Snopes had to pass through a number of people willing to suspend disbelief at some point, right? ;)
(Of course, that would indicate that the original yarnspinners are predominately American..)

As I said, I personally think that this a by-product of Internet revolution in communication. Lets suppose, that someone have some paranoid views about the world. What he does? He looks on the Internet, uses Google, YouTube and finds "proofs", like the the video of dude, who is claiming that Bill Gated advocates depopulation on TEDTalk or the trooofer "documentary" about 9/11.

Then he meets on-line people who are thinking exactly like he. They share more videos, links, articles etc. some of them knows English and translates textes from abroad etc.

This is how it works, IMO.

re: #15 Mad Al-Jaffee

Derek Webb, Jennifer Knapp and Amy Courts. They all played tonight at the City Winery in Soho on Varick St. It was a short gig. Kinda disappointed at that. But they're playing Pittsburgh tomorrow night, so they really couldn't play too late. They're all folk/rock genre Christian artists. Derek is very political and Jennifer just came out of 'retirement' or something like that and is really raw. I love her stuff. Amy is the newcomer, and tonight she just sang harmony with Jennifer. I'll upload the material tomorrow.

re: #16 ausador

LOL! You are so bad!

re: #12 Irenicum

You may not post often, but when you do it's well worth it. Thanks for the heads up on the far right craziness on the other side of the big pond.

Aww.. shucks! :)

I'm sure I'll have reason to expound on this topic in the future, it looks like the inclusion (or exclusion) of SD will become the hot topic of this election cycle. Already it's been causing waves to ripple through society, just concerning what our response to them will be. Our newspapers have gone from barring SD from advertising to reluctantly agreeing to let them in (after a fierce barrage of debate about free speech and democracy). Same thing with debates held on state sponsored television last year. In a way, it mirrors the discussion in Britain (with BNP) - does letting these parties have a say and participate in the debates help or hinder them? I haven't seen anything conclusive on that topic.
In a way, I suppose this will always be the Achilles Heel of true democracy - letting those who would destroy (or at least actively work against) it have their say. If we don't let them speak, are we undermining our own democratic foundation?

It's a bit encouraging to look back to the last time we had a populist semi-racist party (New Democracy - what's with these people and their need to label themselves what they are not?) enter parliament though - it lasted one cycle. Just enough time for everyone to realize that they didn't have a clue as to what they were really going to do when in power. Hopefully the undoing of all these parties bubbling in Europe right now will be their own incompetence, if nothing else.

Well, in this neck of the woods it's really late and I'm finally winding down from the big day trip to NYC. So I'll see y'all on the other side. G'nite! (or whatever is appropriate to your time zone)

re: #18 Irenicum

I can't say I've heard of them, but it sounds like a good time. I'm just getting over some post-gig adrenalin. Should be in bed now, but I'm still up.

The gig went well. The club was pretty much empty when we were loading and setting up and I thought we would have a night playing to the waitstaff and bartenders. But people showed up about 20 minutes before the first set, and more people started coming in during that set. Great, enthusiastic audience. I had fun, and we're back there tomorrow, fresh, rested and ready to rock.

re: #16 ausador

Next time you read about the U.S. census being used to target peoples houses for U.S. army artillery strikes, yeah, that was me...sorry.

Hah! Well done.

I know, I started a full fledged "internet rumor" once when I was trolling the "Rapture Ready" board. I honestly did not think that anyone would be dumb enough to take me seriously, huh.

Rapture ready? Didn't think anyone would be dumb enough to take you seriously..? *pointed look*

re: #17 Areozol

As I said, I personally think that this a by-product of Internet revolution in communication. /.../
Then he meets on-line people who are thinking exactly like he. They share more videos, links, articles etc. some of them knows English and translates textes from abroad etc.

I was trying to be humorous with my earlier comment. Really, I think you're on to something here. Especially about the self-confirming groupthink the internet provides. Almost any idea or kink has a fanclub online that can normalize what's very odd indeed. If this is a positive (as in openly expressing oneself without censors), or a negative (as with the bacterial cultures of conspiracy we're talking about here) on the whole, I wouldn't hazard to guess.
I think it's pretty obvious that certain indulgences are better left without the air of acceptance. Perhaps exemplified well with the recent posting about the Pentagon shooter. Or the cheering fanclub of Dr Tiller's murderer.

The saddest thing about this, perhaps, is that the medium that allows such insulation is the same medium that allows unprecedented access to fact and source checking. A commentary about humanity, perhaps?

Geez.. I start typing and don't know where to stop. My apologies to anyone who feels assaulted by the walls of text. :)

re: #19 Irenicum

LOL! You are so bad!

How was I to know that in this day and age of satellite mapping, data mining, and GPS coordinates people could still take that seriously?

The best part was when they started elaborating on my original post and explaining how with GPS guided shells just a couple of soldiers could lay waste to all the Christian/Republican houses in a town without touching any of the evil lefty atheist domiciles, etc, etc...

It just "blew up."

re: #23 cenotaphium

Politics is only a small part of it, nowadays any extreme perversion is made more acceptable in that you will find at the least hundreds of fellow people who are willing to post about it with you. The lines really are becoming blurred.

Eventually laws and etiquette will probably catch up but for now it is the "wild, wild, west" out there.

Morning all. Someone/thing was looking after this kid.

Teen drives SUV into canyon

A 16-year-old driver veered off River Road Thursday night north of Buhl and dropped 300 feet into the Snake River Canyon without his seat belt on, according to the Twin Falls County Sheriff’s Office.

But he walked away from the crash requiring only some stitches, said Twin Falls County Sheriff’s Office Capt. Tim Miller.

It's a just a little to quite in here this morning.

When life gives you a bunch of lemons, ask for a refund.

But then again, before you receive your refund, you just may be this.

Damn! It's a tuff room this morning. I thought for sure I would have at least provoked something like this by now.

re: #23 cenotaphium

I was trying to be humorous with my earlier comment. Really, I think you're on to something here. Especially about the self-confirming groupthink the internet provides. Almost any idea or kink has a fanclub online that can normalize what's very odd indeed. If this is a positive (as in openly expressing oneself without censors), or a negative (as with the bacterial cultures of conspiracy we're talking about here) on the whole, I wouldn't hazard to guess.
I think it's pretty obvious that certain indulgences are better left without the air of acceptance. Perhaps exemplified well with the recent posting about the Pentagon shooter. Or the cheering fanclub of Dr Tiller's murderer.

The saddest thing about this, perhaps, is that the medium that allows such insulation is the same medium that allows unprecedented access to fact and source checking. A commentary about humanity, perhaps?

The Internet eliminates space; people from all over the planet can chat in a forum in real time, as though they were all in the same room. And because it's possible to easily exclude anyone whose ideas you don't want to hear, the perceived "density" of approval goes way up - with the final element of sockpuppets, it can actually exceed 100%. So the Internet acts as an amplifier for kooks of all kinds. That even normal people use it for similar purposes lends even more credibility and normalcy; the kooks have finally found an environment in which they're not shunned or derided.

On the plus side, it makes it easier to keep track of the dangerous ones. When it comes, for example, to white supremacists, I'd guess that a good portion of those logging in are associated with law enforcement or monitoring groups.

Good Morning Lizarddom

Just caught up on the bulk of the lounge thread and saw that Idioma made his departure.

Made my week!

Unfortunately, I am traveling to MA today to attend a memorial for my cousin who recently passed away.

In the "You just can't make this stuff up" category:

Woman crashes car while shaving her "privates".

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Wow!

re: #34 rwdflynavy

In the "You just can't make this stuff up" category:

Woman crashes car while shaving her "privates".

More proof that intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with having sex.

Morning People.

Did Idioma leave or was he shown the door?

re: #36 SixDegrees

More proof that intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with having sex.

Be glad that is the case. Can you imagine if the Bull and Cow could comprehend that their offspring were going to be a big juicy steak on your grill?

Anarchy I tell ya!

re: #37 RogueOne

Morning People.

Did Idioma leave or was he shown the door?

He was booted.

re: #37 RogueOne

Looks like he was shown the door.

Karma: -147

idioma
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re: #39 SixDegrees

re: #40 Bubblehead II

He had been on a bad roll the last couple of days. I was wondering if he'd eventually take a time out on his own or if it would be forced on him.

re: #41 RogueOne

re: #40 Bubblehead II

He had been on a bad roll the last couple of days. I was wondering if he'd eventually take a time out on his own or if it would be forced on him.

He got a permanent time out forced on him - thank goodness.

re: #42 reine.de.tout

Morning. And if I may ((reine))

Wow. Hard to believe this worked...

Song a little too silly white guy indie rock for me... but the Rube Goldberg Devices fascinate me... and this one appears to be real.

re: #43 Bubblehead II

Morning. And if I may ((reine))

Mornin' Bubblehead!
And FBV too!

re: #40 Bubblehead II

Was pretty mean. Me no liked.

re: #34 rwdflynavy

snicker

Obama moron.

re: #27 Bubblehead II

Everyone has a guardian angel & during out teenage years they are busy.

BBL

re: #45 reine.de.tout

Hiya Toots!

re: #44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't know if it was the You Tube feed or my video card (I suspect the later) but that was really choppy. Either way, seems like a lot work just to get shot in the end.

re: #51 Bubblehead II

Much more fluid when I watched it.

That's what Rube Goldberg devices do... like a very complicated "Shaggy Dog Story".

re: #46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If I remember right, that is the new sound of a louncer, is it not?

Painful.

re: #53 Bubblehead II

heh

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Much more fluid when I watched it.

That's what Rube Goldberg devices do... like a very complicated "Shaggy Dog Story".

This is a particularly nice one. They take forever to set up, and even longer to work all the bugs out. They tried a much simpler one on Mythbusters once, and it took a lot of takes before they got an end-to-end sequence to work out.

re: #53 Bubblehead II

If I remember right, that is the new sound of a Flouncer, is it not?

Painful.

*pimf*

re: #56 Bubblehead II

I knew you didn't mean louncer.

re: #53 Bubblehead II

Not one of my better ones is it?

Well, I have to go dunk my goose. BBL.

Neiman Marcus keeps sending me e-mails, as if I could afford them! The latest is for a shoe priced at $4,700!

That's a lot of money for a pair of shoes. And I don't even like the shoe.

re: #60 reine.de.tout

That's a buttload of money for an Emo Pump.

re: #60 reine.de.tout

I would recommend that you do not buy it.

re: #62 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I would recommend that you do not buy it.

Oh, agreed! 100%
That's a ridiculous shoe.
At a ridiculous price.

re: #60 reine.de.tout

That thing is fuggly. You really should instead consider these.. They coordinate with these.

re: #63 reine.de.tout

I made that recommendation based upon the information at hand.

Google Earth is so cool!
I have a brother who lives in Vancouver, WA.
I've never visited him.
But through the magic of Google Earth, I've been to his neighborhood and seen his house - at street level!
How great is that?

Time to start waking people up:

LostProphets
If It Wasn't For Hate, We'd Be Dead By Now:

re: #64 Bubblehead II

Ducks and Covers!

I find it difficult to comprehend ever spending that much on shoes.

re: #64 Bubblehead II

That thing is fuggly. You really should instead consider these.. They coordinate with these.

OMG!
I'm ROFL!
It's amazing the wide array of really silly, ugly things that one can buy, isn't it?

re: #64 Bubblehead II

That thing is fuggly. You really should instead consider these.. They coordinate with these.

Now we're talking! Nothing says patriotic like camouflaged stripper clothes.

Nothing wrong with camo!

re: #71 RogueOne

Now we're talking! Nothing says patriotic like camouflaged stripper clothes.

Get yer conservative stripper gear right here!
LOL.

re: #71 RogueOne

Now we're talking! Nothing says patriotic like camouflaged stripper clothes.

Those were awful.

I'm going to go study how bad they are for a few minutes.

re: #69 Jadespring

I find it difficult to comprehend ever spending that much on shoes.

I find it impossible to comprehend spending that much on shoes.
'specially ugly ones.

re: #72 Jadespring

Nothing wrong with camo!

Didja check his link?
Better know what it is you're talking about.

Good morning Lizards! Bright and sunny this morning in "always sunny" Philadelphia. Time to get some tea brewed, fix a bite to eat and then get out of town for a few hours...

Old Skool:

Faith No More:
We Care A Lot!

re: #76 reine.de.tout

Didja check his link?
Better know what it is you're talking about.

I did. :D

I'm just having a personal giggle because it brings back funny memories.

re: #69 Jadespring

She didn't

re: #73 reine.de.tout

//Gotta Link

For anyone who missed them last time I posted them:

My friends, Annie and Michel, otherwise known as Potion:

re: #80 Bubblehead II

"If the shoe fits; buy it."
-Imelda Marcos

re: #78 RogueOne

Epic!

re: #84 lawhawk

The floppy fish always made me sad.

re: #74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How about these to start with?

re: #45 reine.de.tout

Good Morning RDT.

re: #77 oaktree

Same here, but with a coastal drive from LA to Oceanside. Storm comnig so not to sure about any sun...

re: #85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yes, that was one of the more disturbing images in music videos to that point.

I got to see 'em live in concert with Metallica and G'n'R at Giants Stadium. Awesome show. They don't do shows like that these days...

re: #86 Bubblehead II

ummm... I've never been to a Bass Pro Shop... but I might just go.

One of the finest rock songs ever....lip synced by the Scrubs cast

re: #90 rwdflynavy

That album was the second I ever owned. Got it for my 14th birthday from my sister. Still blows me away. I loved the over the top everything about it.

re: #89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Neither have I. But they do seem to have some interesting apparel.

But even after 25 yrs, But I prefer this instead.

*censured*

re: #88 lawhawk

I got to see 'em live in concert with Metallica and G'n'R at Giants Stadium. Awesome show. They don't do shows like that these days...

No they don't. My wife and I still go to quite a few shows a year. I'm taking my sis-n-law to a Flogging Molly show monday. Should be a blast.

re: #89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

ummm... I've never been to a Bass Pro Shop... but I might just go.

Who knew the place had such a diversity of stuff?

re: #87 Rightwingconspirator

Good Morning RDT.

re: #77 oaktree

Same here, but with a coastal drive from LA to Oceanside. Storm comnig so not to sure about any sun...

Mornin', RWC!
things going well for you today?

Kids, I gotta hit it. Peace out.

Roger Ebert. Movie critic. Mo-ron.

That link he posts on his twitter? It's about how a North Korean was executed by firing squad for using his cell phone to document prices of food and dire conditions in North Korea and transmitted to the outside world.

re: #91 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That album was the second I ever owned. Got it for my 14th birthday from my sister. Still blows me away. I loved the over the top everything about it.

I first heard it on a friends old cassette player, single speaker. I fell in love instantly.

re: #95 reine.de.tout

Looking great. Nice early drive, a day with the extended family, nice place to stay, what could be better? Bringing the Canon for some coastal landscape if the weather allows. How is your day shaping up?

re: #94 reine.de.tout

Who knew the place had such a diversity of stuff?

Plus they have lots of other types of lures!!

Hmm, from his Facebook posts it looks like a friend of mine has gone full-blown libertarian. I guess the question is how anchored he has kept to reality. First couple of links I followed got me to a site about repudiating the national debt. That strikes me as being pretty far down the rabbit hole.

re: #99 Rightwingconspirator

Looking great. Nice early drive, a day with the extended family, nice place to stay, what could be better? Bringing the Canon for some coastal landscape if the weather allows. How is your day shaping up?

Great. It's sunny and mild temps here today.
good day to get out and enjoy.
Which I will be doing shortly.

re: #100 rwdflynavy

Plus they have lots of other types of lures!!

Lures? I love lures.
Good Morning LGF.

re: #101 oaktree

Hmm, from his Facebook posts it looks like a friend of mine has gone full-blown libertarian. I guess the question is how anchored he has kept to reality. First couple of links I followed got me to a site about repudiating the national debt. That strikes me as being pretty far down the rabbit hole.

Hey, people walk away from their mortgages all time, why can't we just walk away from our debt?!?!
//

re: #102 reine.de.tout

Okay I'm, out for the weekend, even left the laptop at work. Heh. Off line for a day or two. A fine weekend to all my fellow Lizards!

re: #103 Spare O'Lake

Lures? I love lures.
Good Morning LGF.

Hey Spare!
I think you have a couple of recipes in the first cookbook. I got a question about one of 'em. Would you please click my nic and send me an e-mail?

re: #105 Rightwingconspirator

Okay I'm, out for the weekend, even left the laptop at work. Heh. Off line for a day or two. A fine weekend to all my fellow Lizards!

Have a great weekend, RWC!

re: #104 rwdflynavy

Hey, people walk away from their mortgages all time, why can't we just walk away from our debt?!?!
//

Good idea. Let's take a bulldozer to the whole country. That'll show 'em!

//
(what it will show them is however something different...)

I think basement cat is going to get evicted today.

He won't shut up.

re: #108 oaktree

Good idea. Let's take a bulldozer to the whole country. That'll show 'em!

//
(what it will show them is however something different...)

Can't the UN just give us a mulligan?
//

re: #109 Jadespring

If that's a major behavior change it could indicate some sort of health issue.

re: #110 rwdflynavy

Can't the UN just give us a mulligan?
//

Nah. The default will let them take receivership and install the NWO. (and all the repudiators suddenly go "oops!")

//

re: #106 reine.de.tout

Hey Spare!
I think you have a couple of recipes in the first cookbook. I got a question about one of 'em. Would you please click my nic and send me an e-mail?

I'm on a dial-up connection out here and it's a pain to send emails right now - I'll be in touch early next week if that's OK.

re: #101 oaktree

Hmm, from his Facebook posts it looks like a friend of mine has gone full-blown libertarian. I guess the question is how anchored he has kept to reality. First couple of links I followed got me to a site about repudiating the national debt. That strikes me as being pretty far down the rabbit hole.

The thing that scares me about Libertarians (exhibit A: son-in-law) is that they can easily look and sound sane for the first five minutes.

re: #111 oaktree

If that's a major behavior change it could indicate some sort of health issue.

Possibly. Though I'm leaning towards spring fever and the desire to get out and sow some oats. We're experiencing some very early spring weather right now.

re: #113 Spare O'Lake

I'm on a dial-up connection out here and it's a pain to send emails right now - I'll be in touch early next week if that's OK.

fine and dandy.

Time to get my butt in gear.
Enjoy your day, y'all.

re: #115 Jadespring

Probably a distinct possibility as well. My two out-and-out housecats start acting out with the weather change.

For your entertainment, a Simpsons Halloween special SF bit... in German.

Just checked on the late FNDT action with the troll. I wish we could have taken that one alive. There was something to be learned there.

Mornin' folks...I'm dog tired, but need to get a move on to be on the mountain on time. Started watching "The Green Mile" on TNT at 8pm...assumed it would be over by 10:00 or 10:30...damn movie went on until a quarter to midnight with all the commercial breaks. Still, it was a very good movie, and I do recommend it.

Cheers.

Wow - geese are filled with fat. You could probably puree one and run your car off the slurry.

re: #121 darthstar

Mornin' folks...I'm dog tired, but need to get a move on to be on the mountain on time. Started watching "The Green Mile" on TNT at 8pm...assumed it would be over by 10:00 or 10:30...damn movie went on until a quarter to midnight with all the commercial breaks. Still, it was a very good movie, and I do recommend it.

Cheers.

It is a great movie. I'm tried too, stayed up to late in the lounge. I need to get a move on too though I wish it was to a mountain or anywhere else.

It's chicken coop cleaning day! Wahoo!

re: #114 Decatur Deb

The thing that scares me about Libertarians (exhibit A: son-in-law) is that they can easily look and sound sane for the first five minutes.

I think it might happen due to the way they got there. I expect my friend just got fed up with the corruption, hypocrisy, and inability to vote *for* someone that the current two-party system appears to be mired in. Once you want out from that, what are your choices?

You can cynically remove yourself from taking part, which is a very passive and not part of a solution, and arguably part of the problem. Or, you can start searching the nooks and crannies for what appears to be alternate, not yet adulterated by the main parties, solutions that appear to address the nation's ills. Sounds good until you start digging, and start working out the real world consequences and costs of some of the proposals.

re: #123 Jadespring

...snip
It's chicken coop cleaning day! Wahoo!

Absolute final terminal roofing day today. I'm waiting for it to warm up so I can apply dabs of tar on strategic shingles.

re: #123 Jadespring

Heh. Asked a co-worker what his plans for the weekend were. With the snow finally melting he gets to spend the day patrolling the yard to scoop up the backlog of dog droppings. (He owns a German Shepherd.)

I somehow believe I'd prefer cleaning a chicken coop to that. (And I've helped my brother clean his out, so I know what that entails.)

re: #124 oaktree

A lot of it is just youth colliding with Ayn Rand crap. Like the high school emo sophomores who discover Karamazov.

re: #125 Decatur Deb

Absolute final terminal roofing day today. I'm waiting for it to warm up so I can apply dabs of tar on strategic shingles.

How long has the roof taken you to do?

Later Lizards!

re: #128 Jadespring

How long has the roof taken you to do?

Off and on since Christmas--most of that was lost to weather. I was working alone, but the roof is complex enough to allow a lot of safe stopping points.

re: #42 reine.de.tout

He got a permanent time out forced on him - thank goodness.

He was a she. And an atheist moby.

But oh, the chagrin! To be booted on a private thread, where you can't even follow the troll-feast. It's like not being there for your own wake.

re: #131 Cato the Elder

"Troll" I understand, but what is a Moby trying to do?

re: #130 Decatur Deb

Off and on since Christmas--most of that was lost to weather. I was working alone, but the roof is complex enough to allow a lot of safe stopping points.

Well here's to getting it finally finished!

re: #127 Decatur Deb

I should ask him if he has read any Rand. That would tell me a lot.

I think it might also be less about youth and more about having young children and being worried a bit about what sort of country they're going to inherit. (He's about 40 or so.)

re: #124 oaktree

Is your friend an experienced adult? I hate to sound like Ojoe, but his Whig passion is at least rational, if forlorn.

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Much more fluid when I watched it.

That's what Rube Goldberg devices do... like a very complicated "Shaggy Dog Story".

Congress is a Rube Goldberg device.

re: #135 Decatur Deb

Asked and answered (Lawn Order--LGF).

re: #66 reine.de.tout

Google Earth is so cool!
I have a brother who lives in Vancouver, WA.
I've never visited him.
But through the magic of Google Earth, I've been to his neighborhood and seen his house - at street level!
How great is that?

If you were a stalker, he wouldn't be very happy.

re: #134 oaktree

I'm worried about the country I'm leaving. It was so encouraging in the early '90s. I thought the energy problem was going to be the only hurdle.

re: #92 Bubblehead II

Neither have I. But they do seem to have some interesting apparel.

But even after 25 yrs, But I prefer this instead.

*censured*

I'll do the censuring around here. You stick to self-censorship. ;^)

re: #135 Decatur Deb

Will need to have a discussion with him. On/off chatting with him over the last few years. Steering him towards the Whigs might be a possible option once I get an idea what the issues are. Assuming that I'm willing to interfere in the first place.

I half-expect that he's using Facebook simply to blow off a little steam. But it might also be setting up the echo chamber where he gets reinforcement that he is on the right track.

Boils down to me not knowing enough about the situation. And that I should find out a lot more before acting.

I was railing about the incredibly short-sighted business/labor regulations in Evansville, IN. earlier this week and I jut ran across this article. This is the entire problem with Evansville in one neat little package:

[Link: reason.com...]

DVD Rental Kiosks Are Corrupting the Children Hurting My Business

Today brings a new installment of the convince-government-punish-your-competitors sweepstakes, this one in the U.S. of A. Video rental stores in Indiana (already in trouble thanks to Netflix and On Demand) demanded that the county prosecutor go after Redbox, those neat little $1 video rental kiosks in supermarkets and drugstores, for making R rated movies available without age checks:

"I'm not on a crusade," said Paul Black, an Evansville attorney who says he suggested the inquiry to [the county prosecutor's] office on behalf of a client who operates several video store locations. "We're just looking for a level playing field here."

The video store lawyer seems to have "suggested" that from now on the kiosks should stock only G movies. Otherwise kids could get ahold of an R- or PG-rated film without their parents' knowledge—something that is currently completely impossible in any other venue, as everyone who was ever an American middle-schooler knows.

Of course, Vanderburgh County Prosecutor Stanley Levco—in a classic political Pavlovian response to the phrase "for the children"—happily obliged. He sent out "letters threatening legal action against retailers providing space" to the perfidious kiosks of sin and temptation, thus soothing the concerns about the well-being of the children and allowing the lawyer for Redbox's competitors to sleep better at night.

Luckily, there was enough of an uproar that the prosecutor changed his mind saying "prosecution of kiosk owners goes against community sentiment".

re: #101 oaktree

Hmm, from his Facebook posts it looks like a friend of mine has gone full-blown libertarian. I guess the question is how anchored he has kept to reality. First couple of links I followed got me to a site about repudiating the national debt. That strikes me as being pretty far down the rabbit hole.

"Edit the Fed!"

re: #141 oaktree

Will need to have a discussion with him. On/off chatting with him over the last few years. Steering him towards the Whigs might be a possible option once I get an idea what the issues are. Assuming that I'm willing to interfere in the first place.

I half-expect that he's using Facebook simply to blow off a little steam. But it might also be setting up the echo chamber where he gets reinforcement that he is on the right track.

Boils down to me not knowing enough about the situation. And that I should find out a lot more before acting.

Doesn't call for a full-blown intervention, just a few boozy arguments. Better yet, show him how to register here.

re: #127 Decatur Deb

A lot of it is just youth colliding with Ayn Rand crap. Like the high school emo sophomores who discover Karamazov.

Except Dostoevsky could write.

Got to go run errands. Stay scaly everyone!

re: #132 Decatur Deb

"Troll" I understand, but what is a Moby trying to do?

Pretending to be for a cause to make it look bad.

The way you folks are talking about holding an intervention for a libertarian is starting to hurt my feelings. I'm sensitive.

re: #139 Decatur Deb

I'm worried about the country I'm leaving. It was so encouraging in the early '90s. I thought the energy problem was going to be the only hurdle.

And I thought I was going to get a peace dividend.

re: #145 Cato the Elder

Except Dostoevsky could write.

Yes, but emo sophomores cant read. (It took me several tries over a decade to get through Crime and Punishment. It took one sitting, without eating, to do The Idiot. All a matter of maturity.)

re: #148 RogueOne

The way you folks are talking about holding an intervention for a libertarian is starting to hurt my feelings. I'm sensitive.

NTTAWWT! :)

Adversity does teach who your real friends are.
— Lois McMaster Bujold

In prosperity, our friends know us. In adversity, we know our friends.
-- Churton Collins

re: #147 Cato the Elder

Pretending to be for a cause to make it look bad.

Ah!! Perhaps Idioma was a missionary nun trying to create revulsion against Hitchens. Good an explanation as any.

re: #149 Cato the Elder

And I thought I was going to get a peace dividend.

Google Clinton, Surplus.

re: #150 Decatur Deb

Yes, but emo sophomores cant read. (It took me several tries over a decade to get through Crime and Punishment. It took one sitting, without eating, to do The Idiot. All a matter of maturity.)

I am perhaps the only American alive who has read both "Crime and Punishment" and "Les Miserables" in German. I was living in Deutschland at the time and couldn't afford expensive English-language imported books.

re: #148 RogueOne

The way you folks are talking about holding an intervention for a libertarian is starting to hurt my feelings. I'm sensitive.

If you're making it here, you're in remission.

re: #149 Cato the Elder

And I thought I was going to get a peace dividend.

Peace Sells But Who's Buying?

re: #156 Decatur Deb

If you're making it here, you're in remission.

Just keep comin' to the meetings. It works if you work it!

re: #156 Decatur Deb

If you're making it here, you're in remission.

Crazy talk./

There is only one way out of this mess and it's just taking the rest of the country this long to catch up with us. Down with the Man!

Morning all!

It feels like it might want to be Spring in The Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

How are you-all this morning?

re: #157 RogueOne

Way too old for that--at least your ears aren't sensitive.

re: #155 Cato the Elder

I am perhaps the only American alive who has read both "Crime and Punishment" and "Les Miserables" in German. I was living in Deutschland at the time and couldn't afford expensive English-language imported books.

How many American's have actually read those books?

I Listened to them. . . .

Sign of spring in Philadelphia. Capistrano gets swallows. Philly gets its peregrine falcons back. City pigeon population just dropped by one as I just saw it become lunch.

Second time I've eyewitnessed a successful falcon strike on a pigeon. Last time was 11 years ago in Pittsburgh. Fantastic birds to watch in the air.

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Way too old for that--at least your ears aren't sensitive.

I'm surprised I'm not completely deaf by now. Too many years of loud music, machinery, explosions and gunfire.

re: #7 cenotaphium

The Internet Tough Guy, pictured in his native habitat.

re: #148 RogueOne

The way you folks are talking about holding an intervention for a libertarian is starting to hurt my feelings. I'm sensitive.

Perhaps you are really a Classical Liberal.

re: #159 RogueOne

Crazy talk./

There is only one way out of this mess and it's just taking the rest of the country this long to catch up with us. Down with the Man!

We have a real, live anarchist here now. Spockista. You two should get together.

re: #162 ggt

How many American's have actually read those books?

I Listened to them. . . .

Isn't the original "Les Mis" over-long, wandering off into strange disposition? Like Ayn Rand.

re: #168 Decatur Deb

Isn't the original "Les Mis" over-long, wandering off into strange disposition? Like Ayn Rand.

Only with good writing and realistic characters instead of cardboard cutouts.

re: #168 Decatur Deb

Isn't the original "Les Mis" over-long, wandering off into strange disposition? Like Ayn Rand.

A rewrite of Les Miserables in parodic style of Ayn Rand would be hilarious.

re: #169 Cato the Elder

Only with good writing and realistic characters instead of cardboard cutouts.

Whats wrong with cardboard cutouts?

We've had many of them as President over the years!

re: #164 RogueOne

I'm surprised I'm not completely deaf by now. Too many years of loud music, machinery, explosions and gunfire.

AR 40-5 doesn't much apply downrange. Crank up the soundtrack.

re: #168 Decatur Deb

Isn't the original "Les Mis" over-long, wandering off into strange disposition? Like Ayn Rand.

I loved it.

"there is no grandfather who does not adore his grandson"

re: #163 oaktree

Sign of spring in Philadelphia. Capistrano gets swallows. Philly gets its peregrine falcons back. City pigeon population just dropped by one as I just saw it become lunch.

Second time I've eyewitnessed a successful falcon strike on a pigeon. Last time was 11 years ago in Pittsburgh. Fantastic birds to watch in the air.

That sounds awesome...I love Nature.
Watched the 76er's play the Celtics BTW...
You might want to find a coach that can teach how to defend the pick and roll and a simple screen...No D bro

Interesting story on modern punk all he forgets to mention is telling kids to get off his lawn.

[Link: reason.com...]

Day-glo mohawk hairdos and safety-pin studded cheeks may be as forgotten as episodes of Quincy, M.E. and CHIPs warning against nihilistic slam-dancing, but punk's do-it-yourself ethos, romance with skulls and corpses, and preference for pret-a-porter bondage pants are never farther away than the Hot Topic store at the local mall. Indeed, punk has become so mainstream that the trio Green Day, the successor to groups such as the Ramones, the Sex Pistols, and The Clash, not only sells millions of CDs and scoops up basketfuls of industry awards. The band has even just debuted a Broadway-style musical based on its multi-platinum 2004 concept album, American Idiot.

My wife bought my 14yr. old nephew some skater clothing from the Hot Topic in the mall. I didn't take it too well.

re: #170 negativ

A rewrite of Les Miserables in parodic style of Ayn Rand would be hilarious.

The war between content and style would self-destruct.

re: #168 Decatur Deb

Isn't the original "Les Mis" over-long, wandering off into strange disposition? Like Ayn Rand.

Actually, I thought it was fine. I was suprised at all the background about Marious that was cut-out of every movie version I've seen. I thought it was necessary to the story --if not some of the best parts.

Cato started me on my Megadeath playlist so you can blame him:

Sweating Bullets

re: #175 RogueOne

Interesting story on modern punk all he forgets to mention is telling kids to get off his lawn.

[Link: reason.com...]

My wife bought my 14yr. old nephew some skater clothing from the Hot Topic in the mall. I didn't take it too well.

Clint Eastwood cornered the market on that.

re: #163 oaktree

Sign of spring in Philadelphia. Capistrano gets swallows. Philly gets its peregrine falcons back. City pigeon population just dropped by one as I just saw it become lunch.

Second time I've eyewitnessed a successful falcon strike on a pigeon. Last time was 11 years ago in Pittsburgh. Fantastic birds to watch in the air.

We had a pair nesting on the Fisher Building in Detroit; used to hear it screeching early in the morning before the traffic drowned it out.

There's a big stone facade on the main entrance. Offices behind the facade started complaining that water was coming in through the wall. Upon investigation, it turned out that there was a catch basin behind the facade that dumped into downspouts, but the drain was plugged solid - with pigeon heads, left there by the falcon.

I haven't heard much about them recently. Don't know whatever happened to them.

re: #179 ggt

Clint Eastwood cornered the market on that.

If your kid wants to be a punk at least have the decency to show him the right way and buying your clothes in the mall is the least punk thing you can do.

This is interesting--

[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

As the leaked GOP PowerPoint prompts outrage, its scare tactics are field-tested on America's highways. John Avlon—author of Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe Is Hijacking America, available from Beast Books—on the grassroots campaign to poison the president.

Click Below to View America’s Most Virulent Political Billboards

Second link should take you straight to the slideshow; or you can find it at the article linked above.
Some of these I'd seen here, but not all. Yeesh.

re: #181 RogueOne

If your kid wants to be a punk at least have the decency to show him the right way and buying your clothes in the mall is the least punk thing you can do.

My kid chose JROTC.

re: #182 iceweasel

Favorited for later.

oh..And good morning lizards...
What a great looking day

re: #169 Cato the Elder

Only with good writing and realistic characters instead of cardboard cutouts.

depends on the translation.
I got one once that was awful.
So I got another copy by a different translater, and it came alive.

re: #183 ggt

My kid chose JROTC.

Whenever I wanted to bug an HQ officer who was complaining about how "the Army is going to hell", I would point out that Beavis should be up for E7 soon.

been listening to FREE audiobooks from Podiobooks.com

Have really enjoyed the Nathan Lowell books. Good Sci-Fi, decent characters, enjoyable, I might actually buy them if I had to.

War and Peace was WONDERFUL on audio.

re: #184 Decatur Deb

Favorited for later.

It's interesting primarily because, as Avlon says over at the Daily Beast, it's a striking visual illustration of the exact tactics from that leaked GOP strategy memo this week.

re: #190 iceweasel

Keep it handy--you'll get plenty of use for it.

re: #183 ggt

My kid chose JROTC.

Good kid but you're going to let him hang out with those rotc pukes in college are you? Go Mustangs!

re: #192 RogueOne

Good kid but you're going to let him hang out with those rotc pukes in college are you? Go Mustangs!

His choice, but I really wouldn't mind the ROTC scholarship.

re: #186 reine.de.tout

depends on the translation.
I got one once that was awful.
So I got another copy by a different translater, and it came alive.

I only read a reasonably short translation--probably seems like Cliff Notes in comparison.

re: #182 iceweasel

What PowerPoint are they talking about?

The chickens coming home to roost. Bax Blumenthal on Israel's new "friends".....
So Who Are The Nazis? Meet Atlas’s Thugs

Perhaps the most remarkable aspect of the EDL is its identification with Israel. EDL activists routinely wave Israeli flags at rallies and carry placards declaring the groups support for Israel’s “right to exist” (go to :50 of this excellent BBC video report). The group’s support for Israel reflects a gradual reorientation of Britain’s far-right in favor of the policies of the Jewish state and against the rights of Muslim immigrants. While their motives for the strategic shift are largely cynical, they are also rooted in a genuine fascination with the image of Israel as a state fighting for ethnic purity against armies of Muslim marauders.
...
Ruth Smeed of the Board of Deputies of British Jews observed with astonishment, ”The BNP website is now one of the most Zionist on the web – it goes further than any of the mainstream parties in its support of Israel and at the same time demonises Islam and the Muslim world.”

The counterjihad movement has made itself an easy target.

At last - the definitive biography of one of the nation's most famous presidents is being published:

re: #186 reine.de.tout

depends on the translation.
I got one once that was awful.
So I got another copy by a different translater, and it came alive.

Foreign-language books in English should have little stickers: "If you can read this, thank a translator."

re: #197 SixDegrees

At last - the definitive biography of one of the nation's most famous presidents is being published:

[Video]

Is it just me or is the whole vampyre meme boring?

re: #191 Decatur Deb

Keep it handy--you'll get plenty of use for it.

Well, many of them are pre-election, but not all.
The last one is particularly disgusting-- says, "president or jihad?" With two racist caricatures of Obama, one with a turban, natch, and then below says "Prove it! Remember Fort Hood!"

I don't know if that got mentioned here, I wasn't on LGF much at the time of the Fort Hood shooting (was in scotland with Jimmah).

re: #195 Cato the Elder

What PowerPoint are they talking about?

We had it up a few days ago--a briefing to the RNC finance wizards, about 70 slides. (Most were mundane, a few were mindlessly cynical.)

re: #198 Cato the Elder

Foreign-language books in English should have little stickers: "If you can read this, thank a translator."

Absolutely!
Some translators know all the words, but cannot capture the right tone or feeling. Others are just great.

re: #196 Killgore Trout

The chickens coming home to roost. Bax Blumenthal on Israel's new "friends"...
So Who Are The Nazis? Meet Atlas’s Thugs

The counterjihad movement has made itself an easy target.

Sadly, they're also doing serious harm-by-association to the cause of Israel.

re: #195 Cato the Elder

What PowerPoint are they talking about?

Oh, the one Charles posted about a couple of days ago-- this one.

Confidential RNC document oulines strategy of fear mongering

re: #199 ggt

Is it just me or is the whole vampyre meme boring?

Add Zombies to that list.

re: #193 ggt

His choice, but I really wouldn't mind the ROTC scholarship.

Good point. My cop buddies oldest son just enlisted 6 months or so ago. He comes from a long line of military officers, everyone except his dad. He had it in his head he wanted to do it like his old man and enlist without any guarantees of any type and earn all the specialized schools his dad made it through. He's a good young man and currently at Ft. Carson waiting to head to afghanistan.

re: #199 ggt

Is it just me or is the whole vampyre meme boring?

This actually looks promising. By the same author who brought us Pride and Prejudice and Zombies.

So far, reviewers seem pleased.

re: #205 ggt

Add Zombies to that list.

never.

Hamas losing control of Gaza - warnings of anarchy?

The letter was reportedly written in light of a series of assassinations and explosions near the offices of senior Izaddin a-Kassam commanders and of Hamas prime minister Ismail Haniyeh. No one has claimed responsibility for the attacks.

According to the report, Ja’abri wrote Mahsa’al that “several worrisome explosions recently occurred in Gaza, security anarchy is extensive, and al-Kassam men are being killed.”

Ja’abri also reportedly admits that Hamas has made a number of serious mistakes in ruling the strip.

Hamas terrorists blowing each other up in their bomb making attempts, and they're concerned that they aren't coordinating efforts in the jihad against Israel - that's the takeaway here. It once again highlights that Israel doesn't have a partner in peace here - Hamas isn't a governmental entity of any sort and is incapable of governing despite being the power in charge. They're concerned on how to defeat Israel not in providing basic services to Gazans.

re: #205 ggt

Add Zombies to that list.

Werewolfs to the list..

re: #207 SixDegrees

This actually looks promising. By the same author who brought us Pride and Prejudice and Zombies.

So far, reviewers seem pleased.

I've taken a pass on the Zombie book, just can't muster any enthusiam for it.

re: #209 lawhawk

Hamas losing control of Gaza - warnings of anarchy?

Going for beer and popcorn.

re: #210 HoosierHoops

Werewolfs to the list..

Add Johnny Depp to the list.

re: #213 SixDegrees

Add Johnny Depp to the list.

And all Disney Pirate movies

re: #213 SixDegrees

Add Johnny Depp to the list.

I hear he is ruining another perfectly wonderful movie.

re: #212 Cato the Elder

While you're at the fridge, pass a Maccabee.

re: #216 lawhawk

While you're at the fridge, pass a Maccabee.

Taybeh for the lefty here.

re: #209 lawhawk

Hamas is a Thugocracy. At least in Chicago, the garbage DOES get picked up and drunk uncle Willie WILL get a job after the ward heeler makes sure he can count on your vote.

'The Blind Side. A preview...Top 5 sports movies of all time.. I think I've seen every sports movies ever make.. From Babe Ruth to Brian's Song to Field of Dreams to Slap Shot..Name it.. This movie is destined to be a classic.. Top 5..Watch it...So anyway.. Everybody knows Sandra Bullocks is going to win the Oscar this year for this movie...
1. The Story.. Great true story of Mike Orr
2. Sandra.. ( I love her! Bitch wins an Oscar! Way to go Sandra..You deserve it)
3. And most importantly...99% of all sports movies depend on athletic camera shots.. Esp. football to make it seem real.. Stone tried to do it in Any Given Sunday but everybody pretty much agrees it sucked...Remember the Titans tried to pull it off..There were some old school football movies that tried it make it look real..(with out killing someone) The Replacements..Need I say more?
This movie has the best action shots of 2 men.. In a game..Big Mike was getting his ass kicked and slowly over a period of time taking over the game..The blood and sweat you don't see on our big screens on Sunday..
This is 2 men for 60 minutes... a war..And caught on film beautifully...
Any football fan is just going to trip on how great the scenes are done in the football game.. Hey Oliver Stone..Buy a ticket to this movie and see how it's done Bitch! This is how you do a sports movie! Go and make a movie about 911 or something...
5 out of 5 stars

re: #215 ggt

I hear he is ruining another perfectly wonderful movie.

Yes, it sounds that way. The reviewers have not been kind. More importantly, the trailers that are saturating the airwaves make me want to stay away.

Too bad. Edward Scissorhands is one of my favorite movies, and The Nightmare Before Christmas is right up there, too. But Burton hasn't done anything worthwhile in years, and Depp seems content to play the same character over and over and over again - that of a drunken actor. Oh, wait - maybe it's not a character.

re: #196 Killgore Trout

The chickens coming home to roost. Bax Blumenthal on Israel's new "friends"...
So Who Are The Nazis? Meet Atlas’s Thugs

The counterjihad movement has made itself an easy target.

Recommended. We were talking a bit about the EDL on the lounge thread last night.
I loved this from your link:

There is little reason to engage a figure like Geller on the merits of her deranged characterizations.

and

The reorientation of the BNP around a pro-Zionist, Islamophobic platform led directly to the rise of the EDL. Now Pam Geller has volunteered as perhaps the group’s most prominent online promoter. So who is the Nazi?

Also:

How I wish I could be there to stand with the English Defense League,” Geller pined.

So what happens at a typical EDL rally? According to a report by Wales Online, at an October 2009 rally in Swansea by the EDL’s Wales-based affiliate, the Welsh Defense League, “onlookers were confronted with scenes of jeering men giving Nazi salutes.”

I like the pic lablled "The Pam Geller approved EDL burning an anti-Nazi flag".
Way to go, shrieking harpy.

A friend of mine on Facebook recently posted about a book called "Closure" - how to get it.

My reply: The book may be great, but I hate the very word "closure". It's for fairy-tales and movies. In the grown-up world we have the law of suck-it-up. "I need closure!" I screamed, so she obliged and slammed the door in my face.

Speaking of vets:

Witness: Deputy was too aggressive
[Link: www.fox11online.com...]
aggressive

WAUPACA COUNTY - Police acted too aggressively, that's what one woman is telling FOX 11, after she saw an officer use a stun gun on a man in his 80's.

The incident happened almost two weeks ago near the Wisconsin Veterans Home at King in Waupaca County. The sheriff's department determined the officer acted appropriately.
....
Lick says she witnessed a Waupaca County Sheriff's officer using a taser gun on a man from the Wisconsin Veterans Home at King.

"With the second tase the officer just kept screaming at this poor man and telling him, 'stay down, stay down, stay down," you know, I remember that," Lick told FOX 11. "It was horrifying because this elderly man did not know what was going on."

The Sheriff's department refused to do an on camera interview, but told FOX 11 a deputy responded to a call about a suicidal individual, and when the Sheriff's deputy arrived, he started speaking with the veteran and said he needed to see his hands, for the safety of the deputy.
....
"I want our community to know that this was not handled in the proper manner. This man did not deserve what happened to him. Absolutely not. There are other alternatives. He was not combative, however they want to say it. I saw what I saw. Nobody's going to change my mind. I tell the truth. And I want our community to know that this officer acted inappropriately, point blank," said Lick.

Lick says she feels for the man's family, his wife passed away a few days prior to the incident. Lick also says her own father has dementia, and hopes officers will not act like this in the future, when dealing with what she believes was a confused veteran.

Bastard cop tases an 80-yr old confused recent widower and the dept. thinks that it's perfectly reasonable behavior on the part of the officer. Unbelievable.

I'm still reeling over The City and the City by China Mielville

Really, a must read.

re: #222 Cato the Elder

A friend of mine on Facebook recently posted about a book called "Closure" - how to get it.

My reply: The book may be great, but I hate the very word "closure". It's for fairy-tales and movies. In the grown-up world we have the law of suck-it-up. "I need closure!" I screamed, so she obliged and slammed the door in my face.

Couldn't agree more. I can't tell you how many people have said to me about one of their relationships "I need closure"-- by which they mean something that the other person has to do for them.
Closure is something adults achieve on their own. By sucking it up and moving on. No one can do it for you.

re: #223 RogueOne

Speaking of vets:

Witness: Deputy was too aggressive
[Link: www.fox11online.com...]
aggressive

"Stay down, Stay down!" Like an 80 yo is going to jump up and be ready to fight.

Bastard cop tases an 80-yr old confused recent widower and the dept. thinks that it's perfectly reasonable behavior on the part of the officer. Unbelievable.

re: #221 iceweasel

I like the pic lablled "The Pam Geller approved EDL burning an anti-Nazi flag".
Way to go, shrieking harpy.

Inside every rational person is a little imp that says "Sometimes I don't believe all my own shit". Ms. Geller's imp is dead.

re: #196 Killgore Trout

Crazy Pam put up a response to Max and indcleded pictures of the EDL protest to show how fantastic and nice the EDL protests are. The 10th pic down with the "ban the burka" sign shows a man covering his face while giving the Nazi Salute.
In the 5th and 7th picture you can see young men giving the 3 finger fascist salute which neo-nazis adopted in Europe where the Sieg Hiel salute is illegal.

re: #209 lawhawk

Hamas losing control of Gaza - warnings of anarchy?

Hamas terrorists blowing each other up in their bomb making attempts, and they're concerned that they aren't coordinating efforts in the jihad against Israel - that's the takeaway here. It once again highlights that Israel doesn't have a partner in peace here - Hamas isn't a governmental entity of any sort and is incapable of governing despite being the power in charge. They're concerned on how to defeat Israel not in providing basic services to Gazans.

Best news of the week.

re: #225 iceweasel

Couldn't agree more. I can't tell you how many people have said to me about one of their relationships "I need closure"-- by which they mean something that the other person has to do for them.
Closure is something adults achieve on their own. By sucking it up and moving on. No one can do it for you.

Mostly what is meant is "I need you to go over it with me one more time, tell me again why I'm a loser and you dumped me, watch me cry, melt your heart, make you apologize and give me a hug. And now, can we start the dysfunctional, better-off-dead relationship over, pleeeeze?"

re: #224 ggt

I'm still reeling over The City and the City by China Mielville

Really, a must read.

Did he also write Moby Plick?

Did I type that out loud? Bad, but I had to.

re: #227 Decatur Deb

Inside every rational person is a little imp that says "Sometimes I don't believe all my own shit". Ms. Geller's conscience, moral sense, and sanity is dead.

Slightly amended.
Maybe it's time for a new google bomb for her. Heil Harpy.

re: #221 iceweasel

I suspect I disagree with Max Blumenthal on the topic of Israel but he's right about the EDL and BNP.

re: #232 iceweasel

Slightly amended.
Maybe it's time for a new google bomb for her. Heil Harpy.

That's funny!

re: #230 Cato the Elder

Mostly what is meant is "I need you to go over it with me one more time, tell me again why I'm a loser and you dumped me, watch me cry, melt your heart, make you apologize and give me a hug. And now, can we start the dysfunctional, better-off-dead relationship over, pleeeze?"

I used to work for a guy who had formerly been an undertaker. He said that funerals were all about closure.

I'd buy that one.

With the living, demanding "closure" is unrealistic, and quite possibly pathological.

re: #215 ggt

I hear he is ruining another perfectly wonderful movie.

Less his fault than Burton's apparently:

[Link: movies.nytimes.com...]

re: #230 Cato the Elder

Mostly what is meant is "I need you to go over it with me one more time, tell me again why I'm a loser and you dumped me, watch me cry, melt your heart, make you apologize and give me a hug. And now, can we start the dysfunctional, better-off-dead relationship over, pleeeze?"

Bingo.
I've talked to some friends in that position, who are always convinced they can get 'closure' if they just write one more long involved email to the person (with the intent of provoking that scenario).
They can rarely be dissuaded.

re: #237 iceweasel

Bingo.
I've talked to some friends in that position, who are always convinced they can get 'closure' if they just write one more long involved email to the person (with the intent of provoking that scenario).
They can rarely be dissuaded.

separation anxiety?

re: #235 SixDegrees

I used to work for a guy who had formerly been an undertaker. He said that funerals were all about closure.

Nailing down the coffin lid - yeah, I'll buy that definition.

re: #233 Killgore Trout

I suspect I disagree with Max Blumenthal on the topic of Israel but he's right about the EDL and BNP.

Same here. I suspect I disagree with him on that and a couple of others things as well, but when he's right, he's right. And he'd definitely right on this. Good link, thanks.

re: #231 swamprat

Did he also write Moby Plick?

Did I type that out loud? Bad, but I had to.

China Melville didn't write Moby Dick ,,, he wrote Peking Duck !

re: #230 Cato the Elder

Mostly what is meant is "I need you to go over it with me one more time, tell me again why I'm a loser and you dumped me, watch me cry, melt your heart, make you apologize and give me a hug. And now, can we start the dysfunctional, better-off-dead relationship over, pleeeze?"

Geez, I've missed a lot. I married the second girl I ever loved.

Did you see zooborns for yesterday? Scroll down to the gorilla pix.

What's wrong with this picture? The Indy PD wants to do the right thing and fire a cop who stole $500 from someone he was arresting and the city Merit Board comes in and overrules their decision and give him a 6 mo. layoff.

[Link: www.theindychannel.com...]

Then-Chief Michael Spears recommended to the Indianapolis Civilian Police Merit Board that Jefferson be fired, a suggestion echoed by newly appointed Chief Paul Ciesielski and the local Fraternal Order of Police union.

"No one on the police department wants to work next to someone that has character flaws like that, and we are proud of the fact that we police our own," said FOP President Marion County Sheriff's Department Sgt. Bill Owensby.

The merit board found Jefferson guilty of nine of 10 departmental rules violations, but four of the six members voted to spare his job.

"The majority of the board came to the conclusion that we did not want to fire this guy. We wanted to give him an opportunity to salvage his career," said member Joe Slash.

Unbelievable. I don't know if Hoosier knows this but IPD had an extremely bad reputation in the 80's and 90's. They've done work to improve their ranks by actually firing and charging dirty cops and now the board is coming in and keeping bad cops on the streets?

re: #238 ggt

separation anxiety?

I don't think so. More like what Cato described-- some attempt to provoke a response and a conversation like that.
I always ask them if they've considered all the outcomes of sending such an email or letter. They're generally fixated on the idea that they'll get back some wonderful loving response which will say You're absolutely right about everything you're saying.

I always ask, Why are you sending this? What if that ISN'T what happens? What if you get a nasty response? What if you get NO response? What if you get (most likely situation) some very short noncomittal response, like "I'm sorry you feel that way"?
If you can honestly say that you'll feel better having sent that email even with any of the above alternatives, ok, fine.

If not? Then it isn't about closure, it's about getting something from someone else. 'Closure' isn't something someone can do for you.

re: #244 RogueOne

"Fucking cops."

--Verbal Kint in "The Usual Suspects"

re: #237 iceweasel

Bingo.
I've talked to some friends in that position, who are always convinced they can get 'closure' if they just write one more long involved email to the person (with the intent of provoking that scenario).
They can rarely be dissuaded.

That's nothing.. The girl in the cube next to me at work is from California also..
She broke up with a guy last week and his mother started texting her to try to get them back together.. It has been a fun week of texting for all us to read. I have never seen such a silly breakup..Lot's of jokes from us Cali Natives:
You know you are a Hoosier if your Mommy texts your ex trying to get you back together again

re: #245 iceweasel

I don't think so. More like what Cato described-- some attempt to provoke a response and a conversation like that.
I always ask them if they've considered all the outcomes of sending such an email or letter. They're generally fixated on the idea that they'll get back some wonderful loving response which will say You're absolutely right about everything you're saying.

I always ask, Why are you sending this? What if that ISN'T what happens? What if you get a nasty response? What if you get NO response? What if you get (most likely situation) some very short noncomittal response, like "I'm sorry you feel that way"?
If you can honestly say that you'll feel better having sent that email even with any of the above alternatives, ok, fine.

If not? Then it isn't about closure, it's about getting something from someone else. 'Closure' isn't something someone can do for you.

Sounds like run-of-the-mill co-dependence to me. But I'm sure there is a better diagnosis . . .

re: #244 RogueOne

What's wrong with this picture? The Indy PD wants to do the right thing and fire a cop who stole $500 from someone he was arresting and the city Merit Board comes in and overrules their decision and give him a 6 mo. layoff.

[Link: www.theindychannel.com...]

Unbelievable. I don't know if Hoosier knows this but IPD had an extremely bad reputation in the 80's and 90's. They've done work to improve their ranks by actually firing and charging dirty cops and now the board is coming in and keeping bad cops on the streets?

Either they still have corruption problems, or there are a dozen layers of facts that are not reported (to improve the narrative).

re: #249 Decatur Deb

Either they still have corruption problems, or there are a dozen layers of facts corruption that are not reported (to improve the narrative).

ftfy

re: #247 HoosierHoops

Ha! People are strange.
Good to see you hoops, hope you and winston are well today!

I have the house to myself this morning. I think I'll listen to the recliner and take a nap.

Have a great morning all!

re: #250 ggt