1 Usually refered to as anyways  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:17:38am

Thanks Charles,

For the sane place you provide with interesting views from across the political spectrum.

Cheers, to your health.

For anyone who is got nothing better to do, waste 5 minutes looking at this.
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

2 freetoken  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 1:41:03am
There is very little difference between men and women in space.

I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere...

3 freetoken  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:12:08am
MP3 Audio
4 freetoken  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 2:28:08am

Record cool and wet in SoCal:

RECORD EVENT REPORT...UPDATED
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN DIEGO CA
615 PM PDT WED OCT 6 2010

...LOWEST MAXIMUM TEMPERATURE RECORDS BROKEN OR TIED ON OCTOBER 6...


LOCATION NEW RECORD OLD RECORD PERIOD OF RECORD

CAMPO COOP 63 67 IN 2009 SINCE 1948
EL CAJON 69 73 IN 1994 SINCE 1979
LAGUNA BEACH 59 67 IN 1935 SINCE 1928
NEWPORT BEACH 64 66 IN 2001 SINCE 1929
PALOMAR MOUNTAIN 43 45 IN 1994 SINCE 1940
PALM SPRINGS 77 80 IN 2007 SINCE 1922
RIVERSIDE 65 70 IN 2000 SINCE 1924

...HIGHEST DAILY RAINFALL RECORDS BROKEN OR TIED ON OCTOBER 6...

LOCATION NEW RECORD OLD RECORD PERIOD OF RECORD

SAN DIEGO 0.74 INCHES 0.35 INCHES SINCE 1850
LINDBERGH FIELD IN 1912


CLIMATE CHAOS!

5 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 3:45:52am

I was just thinking about the old German adage "Nachts sind alle Katzen grau" (At night all cats are grey.)

Under certain circumstances, differences are irrelevant.

6 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:01:42am

IT IS VERY COOOOOLLLLDDD


IN SPAAAAACE

7 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:06:09am

re: #6 WindUpBird

IT IS VERY COOOLLLDDD

IN SPAAACE

Why are you typing in all caps? In space, no one can hear you scream. Or something like that.

8 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:09:48am

Kenyan polygamist with 100 wives dies

Nairobi, Kenya (CNN) -- A notorious Kenyan polygamist known for marrying 100 wives died this week after a short illness, the nation's state media reported.

The lanky man -- nicknamed "Danger" because of his charm and ability to woo women -- had nearly 160 children, according to the Kenya Broadcasting Corp.

Ancentus "Danger" Akuku was in his 90s.

His family was so large, he built a church and a school for them in the western town of Kisumu, KBC said.

Akuku admitted the size of his extended family made it impossible to keep track of them.

The nonagenarian credited traditional food and vegetables for his longevity and zeal for life, state media reported.

He collapsed at his home after high blood pressure complications and was pronounced dead at a local hospital, his son said.

Akuku married his first wife in 1939 and his last wife in 1992.

He also divorced as many as 30 wives, state media said.

Polygamy was a norm in the East African nation during Akuku's time.

While the practice was popular among his generation, it has slowly died out over the years.

Women have acquired more equality in the country, and most vow they would never marry a polygamist.

"I don't care whether he is a king or a president," said Janet Otieno, 25, who lives in Nairobi. "Those days are gone with our grandfathers, women are no longer as powerless as they were back then."

Anastasia Wanjiru echoes Otieno's sentiment.

"All those wives lived together? There would be no peace in my household," Wanjiru, 28, said. "That's not normal. That's madness."

Madness indeed!

9 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:14:37am

re: #8 Varek Raith

He divorced 30 of them? Bet that cost him.

10 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:19:20am

re: #9 Cannadian Club Akbar

He divorced 30 of them? Bet that cost him.

Who put themselves through that kind of hell?!?!
>100 wives...
Shoot me now.
XD

11 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:19:28am

re: #9 Cannadian Club Akbar

He divorced 30 of them? Bet that cost him.

Cue the Johnny Carson monologues!

12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:19:35am

re: #8 Varek Raith

King Solomon had a thousand wives;
And that's the reason why;
He often missed his business train;
Kissing them all goodbye.
-It Ain't Gonna Rain No More, -Raffi

13 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:20:45am

re: #11 Taqyia2Me

Cue the Johnny Carson monologues!

I bet he called Larry King for divorce advice.
/

14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:21:16am

In Space, No One Can Hear You Scream
-Alien

15 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:23:07am

re: #13 Cannadian Club Akbar

I bet he called Larry King for divorce advice.
/

Even Larry would've gone, "Lol, dude, you're on your own!"

16 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:25:03am

re: #15 Varek Raith

Even Larry would've gone, "Lol, dude, you're on your own!"

Larry could have assembled a blue ribbon commission. Him, Liz Taylor, Zsa Zsa...

17 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:27:13am

re: #16 Cannadian Club Akbar

Larry could have assembled a blue ribbon commission. Him, Liz Taylor, Zsa Zsa...

I'd watch that if it were televised...

18 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:28:43am

re: #17 Varek Raith

I'd watch that if it were televised...

A "Danger" Akuku telethon?

19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:31:37am

re: #16 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have a sister that has been married 8 times.

20 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:32:38am

re: #19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have a sister that has been married 8 times.

My aunt has been married 7. First and fourth husband were the same guy.

21 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:34:35am

re: #20 Cannadian Club Akbar

My aunt has been married 7. First and fourth husband were the same guy.

Marrying the same person twice is like opening the fridge, taking out the milk, smelling it, but not drinking it because it smells wrong; then putting the milk back in the fridge, hoping it will be better tomorrow.

22 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:37:50am

You know who doesn't bother me? Linda McMahon [Link: www.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

Fuck, if the Republican Party was more of her and less of these nativist slime, maybe I might vote for a few

23 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:41:26am

re: #21 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Marrying the same person twice is like opening the fridge, taking out the milk, smelling it, but not drinking it because it smells wrong; then putting the milk back in the fridge, hoping it will be better tomorrow.

My boss married/divorced his wife. Remarried her a few years later. After a month into the second marriage, he remembered why he hated her. D'oh.

24 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 4:43:23am

re: #23 Cannadian Club Akbar

My Aunt married my Uncle twice... the second time was for good though... they were great together (the second time)...

I just liked the earlier joke... heard a comedian say that once.

25 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 5:10:31am

Taking a nap. bbiab.

26 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 5:10:55am

everyone else is asleep...

27 rhino2  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 5:42:21am

I'm awake! Getting ready for the staff meeting today at 1300 though...

28 rwdflynavy  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 5:45:24am

President Obama has appointed an autistic man

Exclusive: First Autistic Presidential Appointee Speaks Out

In December, he was nominated by President Obama to the National Council on Disability (NCD), a panel that advises the President and Congress on ways of reforming health care, schools, support services and employment policy to make society more equitable for people with all forms of disability.

I have a 12 year old son with Autism, so I think this is mighty cool!

Also, Good Morning Lizards!

29 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 5:47:17am

re: #26 ralphieboy

everyone else is asleep...

I demand that you all wake up and entertain me! Jump through fiery hoops or something.

:)

30 Obdicut  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 5:51:17am

re: #29 Varek Raith

Have you read Boatmurdered?

[Link: lparchive.org...]

Worth it.

31 pharmmajor  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 5:51:49am

You know what I love?

Youtube Video
32 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 5:52:17am

re: #28 rwdflynavy


Didn't Sharron Angle make some comments about autism being some sort of "fashionable" illness?

33 rwdflynavy  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 5:53:58am

re: #32 ralphieboy

Didn't Sharron Angle make some comments about autism being some sort of "fashionable" illness?

Yep, I invited her to meet my son and tell me if he is "faking". If so the kid needs an Oscar as he has been "in character" for 10.5 years.

34 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 5:55:37am

re: #30 Obdicut

Have you read Boatmurdered?

[Link: lparchive.org...]

Worth it.

Dwarf Fortress?
I'm so there.
Thanks!

35 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:00:17am

re: #32 ralphieboy

Didn't Sharron Angle make some comments about autism being some sort of "fashionable" illness?

I think being a stupid jerk is her fashionable illness.
;)

36 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:07:54am

re: #29 Varek Raith

I demand that you all wake up and entertain me! Jump through fiery hoops or something.

:)

I think Hoops (and Winston) would object to him being set on fire and having a hole bored through him.

37 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:08:40am

re: #36 oaktree

I think Hoops (and Winston) would object to him being set on fire and having a hole bored through him.

Lol.
Indeed he would.

38 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:18:01am

Fun with Judges:

Judge 1: Mississippi:

[Link: nmisscommentor.com...]


Danny Lampley (who clerked for me in law school), was jailed by Chancery Court Judge Littlejohn in Tupelo for failing to recite the pledge of allegiance in open court today. Danny was one of the local lawyers who represented the plaintiff in the Pontotoc school prayer case years ago, working with the ACLU and People for the American Way.

I’m informed that Danny rose and was respectful, but did not recite the pledge.

Judge 2: Pennsylvania
[Link: www.theblaze.com...]


A black judge from western Pennsylvania rejected a plea agreement for a man accused of fighting with police during a traffic stop saying it was “a ridiculous plea that only goes to white boys.”

Allegheny County Judge Joseph Williams, who is black, claimed on Tuesday that a black defendant in the same situation would not have been treated as leniently.

39 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:20:36am

Good morning lizards!

40 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:21:17am

My state rep district is currently held by a Dem. Last night when I got home I had 4 massive fliers in my door, 3 from one candidate and 1 from the other. The candidate that mailed me 3 fliers focused on creating jobs on one and stopping illegal immigration on the other 2. I found it incredibly amusing and a sign of the times, those 3 came from the Dem candidate. It reminded me of the John Stewart bit last week where he played a dem ad and the republican ad that said he was going to washington to punch obama in the balls.

41 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:24:09am

re: #40 RogueOne

My state rep district is currently held by a Dem. Last night when I got home I had 4 massive fliers in my door, 3 from one candidate and 1 from the other. The candidate that mailed me 3 fliers focused on creating jobs on one and stopping illegal immigration on the other 2. I found it incredibly amusing and a sign of the times, those 3 came from the Dem candidate. It reminded me of the John Stewart bit last week where he played a dem ad and the republican ad that said he was going to washington to punch obama in the balls.

I get no fliers in my door or mailbox. A small benefit of living in the country and not a member of any political party.

42 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:26:56am

re: #41 NJDhockeyfan

I get no fliers in my door or mailbox. A small benefit of living in the country and not a member of any political party.

The republican candidate has shown up on my door in person 3 times already. Having large unfriendly sounding dogs keeps them from sticking around too long.

43 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:28:33am

The IRS has bed bugs...

Youtube Video
44 Political Atheist  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:35:43am

re: #40 RogueOne

I have reviewed a few articles here on candidates. Then I watched (instead of blowing past) a few campaign commercials.

You know how certain special interests rate candidates by number?

Proposal-Maybe we need a sanity scale. Maybe a candidate like Florina or Brown rates a 1 or 2 "Sensible". At the other end at 7 or 8 we have Sarah Palin. At the far end of this logarithmic scale we have Angle and O'Donnell, loony as can be.

We can include the sanity number in with the rating by the rest of the special interests. I happen to have a special interest in the sanity of whomever I vote.

45 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:36:11am

Delays to Tax Tables May Dent Paychecks

Lack of congressional action on 2011 income taxes may force the Treasury Department to make unprecedented moves to prevent U.S. workers from seeing large tax increases in their January paychecks.

The issue: 2011 tax-withholding tables. Treasury officials usually release the tables, which determine the take-home pay of millions of wage-earners, by mid-November because it takes payroll processors weeks to adjust their systems before Jan. 1.

But congressional leaders recently postponed voting on taxes until after the election and lawmakers don't reconvene until Nov. 15. The Senate is scheduled to take up several nontax issues when it returns and is expected to leave for Thanksgiving soon after, possibly pushing a vote on taxes into December.

"Things get very dicey after the first of December" because of employers' need to know the 2011 rates, said Michael Graetz of Columbia University Law School, a former Treasury official.

Lawmakers' recent track record on dealing with tax matters doesn't inspire confidence that they will act with dispatch. Congress has yet to resolve the estate tax, which expired at the end of last year and is set to snap back to high rates come January. Nor has it tackled the alternative minimum tax for 2010, a levy that is set to hit 32 million taxpayers this year, compared with five million last year.

Excellent! Thanks Congress! You all are doing a fantastic job in Washington!

46 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:38:52am

re: #41 NJDhockeyfan

I get no fliers in my door or mailbox. A small benefit of living in the country and not a member of any political party.

In Indiana you can register as R/D/or I. When you go to vote in the primary you have to declare either R or D. If you declare as an independent then you get a ballot without the major seats and you get one with things like the school board. I get inundated every election cycle with candidates or their reps showing up on my door. I wonder if I would get fewer visits if I were registered as an R or D?

47 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:44:26am

re: #46 RogueOne

In Indiana you can register as R/D/or I. When you go to vote in the primary you have to declare either R or D. If you declare as an independent then you get a ballot without the major seats and you get one with things like the school board. I get inundated every election cycle with candidates or their reps showing up on my door. I wonder if I would get fewer visits if I were registered as an R or D?

Why would they take away choices of major candidates to vote for if you register as an Independent?

48 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:44:26am

re: #44 Rightwingconspirator

One of the benefits on being a real independent is I don't really care which party is in power or if the candidates are crazy or not. I also don't have to defend policies that I know suck ass. I get to vote based on which party is screwing up more at the present moment.

My local rep is a good man and I trust that he'll vote to do what is best for our district even if I don't necessarily agree with him. I've voted for him every election since 2001 and he'll get my vote again this year. His opponent is pouring money into ads so he's going to need as much help as he can get.

49 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:45:13am

re: #47 NJDhockeyfan

Why would they take away choices of major candidates to vote for if you register as an Independent?

Only in the primary. It's none of my business, as an Ind., which candidates the repubs or dems decide to put up.

50 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:46:32am

re: #49 RogueOne

Only in the primary. It's none of my business, as an Ind., which candidates the repubs or dems decide to put up.

Gotcha.

51 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:48:27am

re: #48 RogueOne

Plus my rep is a retired Marine Col., that's worth extra credit points in my book.

52 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:51:18am

I must disagree. The important difference is still there, ugly spacesuits and all.

Vive le difference!

53 rwdflynavy  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:51:59am

This country has come to feel the same when Congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer.

— Will Rogers

54 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:52:25am

Federal subpoenas issued in John Edwards investigation


The ABC11 Eyewitness News I-Team has learned federal prosecutors in Raleigh have issued a new round of subpoenas in their investigation of former NC Senator John Edwards.

A law enforcement source told the I-Team Wednesday that about 20 new subpoenas have been issued ordering people to testify about the arrangement to conceal the affair and the baby John Edwards had with his mistress, Rielle Hunter.

A federal grand jury in Raleigh has been investigating Edwards, a former North Carolina senator and 2004 Democratic candidate for vice president, for more than a year. They've been focused on the possible mis-use of campaign contributions.

It sucks to be him.

55 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:53:32am

re: #54 NJDhockeyfan

It's the cover-up that gets ya. I hope he suffers.

56 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:56:35am

Back to work!

57 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 6:59:34am

Panel: Gov't blocked scientists on spill estimate

The Obama administration blocked efforts by government scientists to tell the public just how bad the Gulf oil spill could become and committed other missteps that raised questions about its competence and candor during the crisis, according to a commission appointed by the president to investigate the disaster.

In documents released Wednesday, the national oil spill commission's staff describes "not an incidental public relations problem" by the White House in the wake of the April 20 accident.

Among other things, the report says, the administration made erroneous early estimates of the spill's size, and President Barack Obama's senior energy adviser went on national TV and mischaracterized a government analysis by saying it showed most of the oil was "gone." The analysis actually said it could still be there.

"By initially underestimating the amount of oil flow and then, at the end of the summer, appearing to underestimate the amount of oil remaining in the Gulf, the federal government created the impression that it was either not fully competent to handle the spill or not fully candid with the American people about the scope of the problem," the report says.

Let's see how they try to blame Pres George W Bush for this incompetence.

58 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:18:17am

I think I am gonna make a bunch of home made burritos today, rather than buy them for the freezer. Morning again.

59 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:32:55am

re: #47 NJDhockeyfan

Because it is a closed primary system - you can only vote in a primary when you are registered for that party.

Open primaries allow anyone to vote in any primary race.

60 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:34:26am

Israeli planes hit 'terror targets' in response to rocket fire

Israel's air force struck "two terror targets" in northern Gaza overnight in response to recent rocket fire into the Jewish state from the Palestinian territory, Israel Defense Forces said Thursday.

There was no word on casualties and no immediate response from Palestinian officials.

The Israeli military said more than 160 rockets and mortars have been fired at Israel this year, and more than 440 rockets were fired from Gaza into Israel since the end of Operation Cast Lead -- Israel's three-week offensive in Gaza that began in late December 2008.

The IDF says it holds Hamas, the Palestinian movement that runs Gaza, "solely responsible for any terrorist activity emanating from the Gaza Strip."

Rockets are fired from Gaza into Israel and the IDF fight back. CNN has to label that as 'terror targets' as though there is a question of who fired those rockets.

61 reine.de.tout  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:35:24am

re: #57 NJDhockeyfan

Panel: Gov't blocked scientists on spill estimate

Let's see how they try to blame Pres George W Bush for this incompetence.

I'm not real happy with parts of Obama's response to the oil spill (the moratorium, which is still ongoing, along with an undeclared moratorium on shallow water drilling since no permits are being issued).

BUT - there truly is conflicting information about how much is left out there, AND there was a lot of conflicting information about the scope of the spill as it was happening. For one thing, it started small, and as the flowing oil caused sand to blast at the leaking area of pipe, it eroded the pipe and the leak got bigger and bigger, and it ended up being larger than anyone anticipated. I saw this report earlier today, and was a bit perplexed by the panel's take on it.

62 reine.de.tout  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:37:23am

re: #46 RogueOne

In Indiana you can register as R/D/or I. When you go to vote in the primary you have to declare either R or D. If you declare as an independent then you get a ballot without the major seats and you get one with things like the school board. I get inundated every election cycle with candidates or their reps showing up on my door. I wonder if I would get fewer visits if I were registered as an R or D?

Not likely.
Last week, there was a 4-hour period of time where I got 10 - count 'em, 10 - political phone calls. They show up on caller ID as "out of area", and I have to answer my phone in case it's the Roi calling from offshore. I was about to tear my hair out.

63 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:37:40am

re: #59 lawhawk

Because it is a closed primary system - you can only vote in a primary when you are registered for that party.

Open primaries allow anyone to vote in any primary race.

Thanks for the explanation. RogueOne said the same thing on #49. Are all states like that?

64 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:38:50am

re: #63 NJDhockeyfan

No. Some states do have an open primary.

A full list is here.

65 reine.de.tout  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:38:51am

re: #63 NJDhockeyfan

Thanks for the explanation. RogueOne said the same thing on #49. Are all states like that?

Louisiana has what we call "open" primaries.
In the primary election, all candidates, regardless of party affiliation, are on the ballot. And everybody gets to vote. Sometimes the election is settled during the primary. Other times, there's a run-off, and it may be that there are two Dems in the run-off, or two R's, rather than one of each.

66 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:38:51am

re: #62 reine.de.tout

Not likely.
Last week, there was a 4-hour period of time where I got 10 - count 'em, 10 - political phone calls. They show up on caller ID as "out of area", and I have to answer my phone in case it's the Roi calling from offshore. I was about to tear my hair out.

Does the 'Do Not Call List' work against political phone calls?

67 reine.de.tout  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:39:00am

re: #66 NJDhockeyfan

Does the 'Do Not Call List' work against political phone calls?

No.

68 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:39:26am

re: #67 reine.de.tout

No.

Bastards!

69 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:41:11am

re: #64 lawhawk

No. Some states do have an open primary.

A full list is here.

I am in Virginia so we have open primaries. Now I know why I was able to vote in a primary before.

70 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:46:39am

re: #45 NJDhockeyfan

Delays to Tax Tables May Dent Paychecks

Excellent! Thanks Congress! You all are doing a fantastic job in Washington!

If I could interject, for federal income reporting purposes, the tax year ends on 12/15 each year.

71 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:50:48am

For some reason, my new comments counter isnt working. And when I clicked it, I got the spinning wheel of death. I had to reload the page.

72 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:56:15am

Prince Harry executed by Taliban in controversial film

A dramatised documentary based on what would happen if Prince Harry, fourth in line to the British throne, was to be taken prisoner while serving in Afghanistan has caused an uproar, with the Queen reportedly upset with the depiction.

The 90-minute film 'Taking Of Prince Harry' includes scenes showing the prince, played by actor Sebastian Reid, being held behind enemy lines while negotiations are carried out to free him.

The film shows the prince, the son of Prince Charles and Princess Diana, being subjected to a mock execution, with an unloaded gun pointed at his face before one of his captors pulls the trigger, reported Daily Mail online.

The depiction has not gone down well with the Armed forces and the Queen and Prince Charles too are upset by the programme, said the newspaper.

Why wold someone make a movie like this?

73 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 7:57:40am

re: #72 NJDhockeyfan

Prince Harry executed by Taliban in controversial film

Why wold someone make a movie like this?

Hey, someone made a film about Bush being assassinated.

74 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:02:24am

re: #72 NJDhockeyfan

Prince Harry executed by Taliban in controversial film


Prince Harry is such a good sport. He's got a lot of his mother in him.

75 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:02:52am

re: #73 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hey, someone made a film about Bush being assassinated.

I wonder if it's the same moonbats who made the George Bush assassination movie that made this new one?

76 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:05:31am

re: #75 NJDhockeyfan

I wonder if it's the same moonbats who made the George Bush assassination movie that made this new one?

IIRC, the one's who made the Bush film were actually Canadian.

77 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:06:26am

Former New York Comptroller Said to Plan Guilty Plea in Pension Fund Probe

Former New York Comptroller Alan Hevesi will plead guilty to a felony charge tied to New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo’s probe of corruption at the state’s pension fund during 2003-2006, a person familiar with the case said.

Hevesi is to be arraigned in a Manhattan courtroom this morning, said the person, who declined to be identified because the proceedings haven’t yet taken place. The judge overseeing the arraignment is Melissa Jackson.

Hevesi resigned as comptroller after pleading guilty to a felony in December 2006 for using state employees to chauffeur around his disabled wife, ending his 35-year career in politics.

Hevesi, a Democrat, was sole trustee of the fund from 2003 to 2006, the official responsible for investing its money. He allegedly allowed his political consultant, Henry “Hank” Morris, to corrupt the investment process to benefit money managers who made campaign contributions and politically connected placement agents who received lucrative fees.

78 rwdflynavy  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:06:31am

re: #76 Cannadian Club Akbar

IIRC, the one's who made the Bush film were actually Cannadian.

Fixd//

79 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:07:16am

re: #75 NJDhockeyfan

I wonder if it's the same moonbats who made the George Bush assassination movie that made this new one?

The film with the Bush assassination was a British production, I believe, and the assassination was just the opening scene to drive the plot of the movie (like the generic dead girl at the start of every CSI show). The movie, as far as I understand (I haven't seen it) is about the after-effect of an assassination.

By your own link above, the Taliban produced the Prince Harry film.

80 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:07:53am

re: #76 Cannadian Club Akbar

IIRC, the one's who made the Bush film were actually Canadian.

Taliban! Moonbats!

Good morning.

81 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:08:59am
There is very little difference between men and women in space.

— Helen Sharman

Helen Sharman is my new hero:

She worked as an engineer for GEC in London and later as a chemist for Mars Incorporated working with flavourant properties of chocolate. She worked with chocolate because she liked chocolate and wanted to explore the further flavours and scents of pure alpine chocolate.

Besides that astronaut thing.

82 rwdflynavy  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:09:48am

re: #80 darthstar

Taliban! Moonbats!

Good morning.

Godwin was a NAZI!!!11!!
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83 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:12:34am

re: #77 NJDhockeyfan

Lots of NY political news at the moment.

You've got Paladino making a mystery announcement this afternoon. No one has a clue as to what he's going to say - not even folks close to his campaign.

A media report indicates that Cuomo, the Democratic party candidate, got campaign donations from none other than David Koch, the right wing funder (who also happens to be a major contributor to NYC area institutions including major hospitals and museums). Other reports show that Cuomo still considers Vito Lopez (a Democrat under investigation for corruption) a good friend.

Politics makes for strange bedfellows.

Oh, and the MTA just announced major fare increases for those using Metrocards to help close the budget gap due to lower real estate tax revenues and lower funding from the state (which is broke).

84 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:12:56am

re: #79 darthstar

The film with the Bush assassination was a British production, I believe, and the assassination was just the opening scene to drive the plot of the movie (like the generic dead girl at the start of every CSI show). The movie, as far as I understand (I haven't seen it) is about the after-effect of an assassination.

By your own link above, the Taliban produced the Prince Harry film.

Meh...actually read the article...it's a British film...not produced by the Taliban. Which makes sense, as I've never heard of a Taliban production company.

Doesn't seem all that controversial now that I've read the full article.

85 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:15:01am

re: #84 darthstar

Meh...actually read the article...it's a British film...not produced by the Taliban. Which makes sense, as I've never heard of a Taliban production company.

Doesn't seem all that controversial now that I've read the full article.

The Taliban only make threatening videos as far as I know.

86 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:15:59am

re: #85 NJDhockeyfan

The Taliban only make threatening videos as far as I know.

No, they've actually made head chopping ones.

87 Ericus58  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:17:56am

re: #86 Cannadian Club Akbar

No, they've actually made head chopping ones.

I think that's actually more like AQ's style.
but, pretty much same-same.

88 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:18:01am

re: #86 Cannadian Club Akbar

No, they've actually made head chopping ones.

That's right. I believe we have one of their head chopping movie stars staying at the Gitmo Hilton.

89 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:18:45am

re: #85 NJDhockeyfan

The Taliban only make threatening videos as far as I know.

Have you ever tried to lug a Movieola through the caves of Waziristan?

[Link: t0.gstatic.com...]

90 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:21:52am

re: #81 wrenchwench

If I had thought of working with chocolate, I would have stuck it out in algebra and become a scientist.

91 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:22:05am

re: #89 Decatur Deb

Have you ever tried to lug a Movieola through the caves of Waziristan?

[Link: t0.gstatic.com...]

Don't count it out. I mean, they did get Osama a kidney dialysis machine.
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92 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:22:48am

re: #91 Cannadian Club Akbar

Don't count it out. I mean, they did get Osama a kidney dialysis machine.
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Did they bury the machine with OBL?

93 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:24:12am

re: #90 wrenchwench

If I had thought of working with chocolate, I would have stuck it out in algebra and become a scientist.

You can prolly find videos on you tube on how to temper chocolate. Learn that, then play.

94 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:25:21am

re: #92 NJDhockeyfan

Did they bury the machine with OBL?

It's kinda a small mass grave. The machine, OBL and his goats.

95 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:26:53am

re: #93 Cannadian Club Akbar

You can prolly find videos on you tube on how to temper chocolate. Learn that, then play.

I'm just into eating it now. I was just fantasizing about an alternate universe for a sec....

96 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:31:46am

re: #92 NJDhockeyfan

Did they bury the machine with OBL?

I agree, IMHO, he's long dead and the death was properly not celebrated.

97 garhighway  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:32:58am

re: #45 NJDhockeyfan

But congressional leaders recently postponed voting on taxes

So you are angry at those who opposed cloture? Good.

98 shutdown  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:40:16am

re: #72 NJDhockeyfan


It's the BBC. 'Nuff said.

99 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:45:27am

I'd say it sucks to be Lou Dobbs right now, but I imagine the xenophobics will find all sorts of justifications and excuses for him to employ illegal immigrants.

I hear the people on the right complain about the elites and that somehow the left are full of people who think they're better than the average person. And then I see all the people on the right who claim to be just like the average guy, engaging in behaviors that would get a normal person drummed out of town. Or doing things that they feel are immoral, illegal, or just plain wrong, and then acting like somehow the rules and demands they make on the rest of us don't apply to them. Oh no, they're too important for that. The real elites aren't on the left anymore. The real elites are the heads of of the conservative movements. The same conservative movement that makes such big noises about being just like you and me; all the while when they think no one is looking, doing the very things they demagogue and spit on.

And you know, personally, I don't care that Dobbs did employ illegals, and am a pretty big proponent of a more open immigration policy. I figure if we let more people in legally, but have a rigorous vetting program, it'll actually reduce stress on the open borders. How you ask? Because at that point the number people crossing illegally for jobs will drop, which means that our INS and LEO can have more confidence that the people who *do* cross illegally are in fact drug smugglers or engaged in some other illegal activity.

I don't care that Dobbs did it, I care that he's tried his best to spread hate and fear about illegals. That he' spent years using them as a whipping boy to drum up a frenzy, and then he did it. That's really shitty behavior.

100 garhighway  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:47:49am

OT: Fun facts from the NYT.

It turns out that there are striking parallels between the hubbub over the Park51 project and the resistance to NYC's first Catholic church. Suspicion about the source of funds, doubts about the institution's commitment to America, etc...

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

101 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:48:21am

re: #99 bloodstar

Lou Dobbs, yet another:

hypocrite
hyp·o·crite
noun ˈhi-pə-ˌkrit
Definition of HYPOCRITE
1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

102 kingkenrod  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:48:38am

re: #97 garhighway

But congressional leaders recently postponed voting on taxes


So you are angry at those who opposed cloture? Good.

Dems punt tax vote to lame duck
House GOP Pushes Pelosi for Tax Cuts Vote Before Adjournment
Pelosi ally pressing for tax cut vote this week

103 garhighway  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:51:56am

re: #102 kingkenrod

Dems punt tax vote to lame duck
House GOP Pushes Pelosi for Tax Cuts Vote Before Adjournment
Pelosi ally pressing for tax cut vote this week

You do understand that all of those articles are talking about a vote in the House, right? And that without Senate action, there is no law, right? And that Senate action is dead because the bill failed a cloture vote, right?

If you want, I will dig up one of those vintage "How a Bill Becomes Law" videos for you and we can review it together.

104 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:52:44am

re: #100 garhighway

St. Peter's Church is down the block from Ground Zero and a couple of blocks from my office. That's a bit of history I was unaware of, though not all that surprised seeing that Jews also had a hard time getting accepted in New Amsterdam and even in New York when the Brits took over.

105 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:53:44am

re: #99 bloodstar

The 'do what I say - not what I do' crowd is a large crowd.

106 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:53:49am

re: #100 garhighway

OT: Fun facts from the NYT.

It turns out that there are striking parallels between the hubbub over the Park51 project and the resistance to NYC's first Catholic church. Suspicion about the source of funds, doubts about the institution's commitment to America, etc...

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

They were right--let the Pope get a sandal on Manhattan, and a hundred years later JFK is destroying all our American institutions.

107 Sinistershade  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:54:07am

re: #103 garhighway

If you want, I will dig up one of those vintage "How a Bill Becomes Law" videos for you and we can review it together.

"I'm just a bill. Yes, I'm only a bill. And I'm sitting here on Capitol Hill . . . "

108 webevintage  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:54:38am

Public Service Reminder to young prospective politicians, the internet and those "sexy" pictures of you as a "sexy elf wench" and your then husband with the red reindeer penis nose at that wild Christmas party will haunt you longer then your ill advised marriage:
[Link: wonkette.com...]
FYI...The More you know....

109 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:56:16am

re: #108 webevintage

Heh. Krystal Ball, the Democrat candidate for Congress, didn't see that one coming.

110 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 8:59:36am

re: #108 webevintage

Public Service Reminder to young prospective politicians, the internet and those "sexy" pictures of you as a "sexy elf wench" and your then husband with the red reindeer penis nose at that wild Christmas party will haunt you longer then your ill advised marriage:
[Link: wonkette.com...]
FYI...The More you know...

She should know she had no chance--divorce is the kiss of death for a candidate.

111 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:01:34am

re: #110 Decatur Deb

She should know she had no chance--divorce is the kiss of death for a candidate.

She didn't see that coming either.

112 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:02:26am

re: #110 Decatur Deb

Heh! She was kissing something but I'm not sure it was death!

113 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:02:55am

re: #110 Decatur Deb

She should know she had no chance--divorce is the kiss of death for a candidate.

Yeah. In this modern world a woman isn't allowed to even have had expressed her sexuality even in a jovial moment which was recorded in digital imagery. Unlike of course Gingrich, Clinton, Vitter, et al who can do more and get away with it and still be admired. We've come a long way baby!

114 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:06:42am

re: #113 Gus 802

Yeah. In this modern world a woman isn't allowed to even have had expressed her sexuality even in a jovial moment which was recorded in digital imagery. Unlike of course Gingrich, Clinton, Vitter, et al who can do more and get away with it and still be admired. We've come a long way baby!

She passes my "cool neighbor" and "baby-sitter" voting tests. (The grown kids are still chagrined that their sitters included guys named "Roach" and "Mad Jack".)

115 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:07:26am

re: #113 Gus 802

In Italy, land of the human heart, Cicciolina, porn star, was elected to Parliament.

So some countries are in advance of us.

116 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:07:34am

Hmmm... the headline reads that Solar Power Is Coming to the White House at CNN.

It notes that the Obama Administration will be installing solar panels and a solar hot water heater at the historic home for the First Family.

Of course, the headline would be more accurate if it said Solar Power Returns to White House because a solar system was first installed during the Carter Admin, but then removed during the Reagan Admin.

But even that is inaccurate because a solar system was installed by G.W. Bush for powering the pool and an ancillary building on the grounds.

The article notes all this, but the headline and lede is what many people will read and focus on - not the article itself.

So, the most accurate headline would read:
Solar Power Reliance Increases at White House.

117 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:08:51am

re: #116 lawhawk

Hope it stays there for a few terms.

118 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:09:48am

Art Jihad...
Loveland Woman Takes Crowbar To Controversial Artwork


"The Misadventures of Romantic Cannibals," a lithograph by Mexican-American artist and Stanford professor Enrique Chagoya has been on display at the Loveland Museum/Gallery since September 10. Chagoya's work includes an scene of Christ receiving oral sex from a man, among other irreverent images involving Christian figures.
119 webevintage  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:10:36am

re: #113 Gus 802

Yeah. In this modern world a woman isn't allowed to even have had expressed her sexuality even in a jovial moment which was recorded in digital imagery. Unlike of course Gingrich, Clinton, Vitter, et al who can do more and get away with it and still be admired. We've come a long way baby!

How awesome would it be for a few pictures of Gingrich munching on a red reindeer dildo attached to his wife's nose?

120 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:11:05am

Solar should be beyond politics so let's hope the solar equipment at the White House stays there no matter what.

121 webevintage  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:11:19am

re: #117 Decatur Deb

Hope it stays there for a few terms.

Meh, next Republican will pull them down to great fanfare....

122 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:11:24am

re: #119 webevintage

How awesome would it be for a few pictures of Gingrich munching on a red reindeer dildo attached to his wife's nose?

O_o

123 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:11:25am

re: #119 webevintage

How awesome would it be for a few pictures of Gingrich munching on a red reindeer dildo attached to his wife's nose?

Wouldn't be the same thing--Cute Counts.

125 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:12:24am

re: #121 webevintage

A Whig president would never remove them.

126 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:12:40am

re: #108 webevintage

Public Service Reminder to young prospective politicians, the internet and those "sexy" pictures of you as a "sexy elf wench" and your then husband with the red reindeer penis nose at that wild Christmas party will haunt you longer then your ill advised marriage:
[Link: wonkette.com...]
FYI...The More you know...

Krystal Ball? Is that her real name or her stripper name?

127 webevintage  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:12:52am

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Art Jihad...
Loveland Woman Takes Crowbar To Controversial Artwork

That's a pity, I loved the dancing bikini clad pigs and Jebus riding a bike in a swimming suit.

128 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:12:58am

re: #120 Ojoe

Solar should be beyond politics so let's hope the solar equipment at the White House stays there no matter what.

I wouldn't count on that. Wingnuts think solar power is a communist plot.

129 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:13:30am

re: #119 webevintage

How awesome would it be for a few pictures of Gingrich munching on a red reindeer dildo attached to his wife's nose?

Yeah, while looking at those photos I was reminded of how Gingrich and Clinton both had penilingus many times while in office by "other women".

130 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:13:43am

re: #124 Killgore Trout

Learning to Cook Can Save Your Life: 5 Tips to Get Started (RECIPES)

Cooking's easy.
Step 1. Set it on fire.
Step 2. Put out fire.
Step 3. Enjoy!

131 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:13:44am

re: #128 Killgore Trout

I wouldn't count on that. Wingnuts think solar power is a communist plot.

They are crazy of course.

132 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:14:20am

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Art Jihad...
Loveland Woman Takes Crowbar To Controversial Artwork

At some level that should be as much an outrage as the nut who took a hammer to the Pieta, but it isn't. Beauty Counts.

133 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:15:05am

re: #127 webevintage

That's a pity, I loved the dancing bikini clad pigs and Jebus riding a bike in a swimming suit.

I actually thought it was a shitty paining. It would have been an acceptable comic book but I didn't see the skill and craftsmanship I would expect from fine art. It was bad enough to be destroyed.

135 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:15:46am

re: #130 Varek Raith

Cooking's easy.
Step 1. Set it on fire.
Step 2. Put out fire.
Step 3. Enjoy!

lol.

136 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:16:29am

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Art Jihad...
Loveland Woman Takes Crowbar To Controversial Artwork

Psycho. Anywho, here she is:

Loveland mayor calls for calm after attack on controversial Jesus art

LOVELAND — The mayor of Loveland is calling for calm following the destruction of a controversial piece of artwork in the city's museum.

Witnesses say 56-year-old Kathleen Folden of Kalispell, Mont. used a crowbar Wednesday to smash a display case containing a print that critics say portrays Jesus engaged in a sex act. The Loveland Reporter-Herald says she allegedly tore out a foot-long section of the print and ripped it into shreds.

She was arrested on a charge of criminal mischief.

Mayor Cecil Gutierrez said the community has always been able to talk about issues in a calm way and he wants that to continue.

Ed Armijo, a deacon at St. John the Evangelist Catholic Church who has been picketing the museum, said the attack was "despicable."

Image: 20101007_085324_Woman%20Attacks%20Dispute_Seba.jpg

137 jaunte  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:17:53am

re: #133 Killgore Trout

I actually thought it was a shitty paining. It would have been an acceptable comic book but I didn't see the skill and craftsmanship I would expect from fine art. It was bad enough to be destroyed.

This will probably give Chagoya's career a boost.

138 webevintage  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:18:05am

re: #113 Gus 802

Yeah. In this modern world a woman isn't allowed to even have had expressed her sexuality even in a jovial moment which was recorded in digital imagery. Unlike of course Gingrich, Clinton, Vitter, et al who can do more and get away with it and still be admired. We've come a long way baby!

I'm an old fogy feminist because I gotta say I think one should express their sexuality at home, not at a "Christmas Party"...BUT I feel sorry for the group of young adults who grew up during the "take pictures and put it on the internet" era BEFORE those pictures began hurting chances for jobs and/or winning elections.

139 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:20:10am

re: #136 Gus 802

Ed Armijo, a deacon at St. John the Evangelist Catholic Church who has been picketing the museum, said the attack was "despicable."

At least that guy shows some thinking.

140 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:21:01am

re: #138 webevintage

I'm an old fogy feminist because I gotta say I think one should express their sexuality at home, not at a "Christmas Party"...BUT I feel sorry for the group of young adults who grew up during the "take pictures and put it on the internet" era BEFORE those pictures began hurting chances for jobs and/or winning elections.

Sure. But of course at bachelor parties dry humping is a common practice. Not for real of course but a lot of off the wall stuff goes down at those parties and others. So if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to take a picture of it -- the tree still fell.

141 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:21:18am

re: #136 Gus 802

Psycho. Anywho, here she is:

Loveland mayor calls for calm after attack on controversial Jesus art

Image: 20101007_085324_Woman%20Attacks%20Dispute_Seba.jpg

If only it were a painting of Mohammad.
It'd be all good.
9_9

142 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:21:56am

re: #139 Decatur Deb

Ed Armijo, a deacon at St. John the Evangelist Catholic Church who has been picketing the museum, said the attack was "despicable."

At least that guy shows some thinking.

Saw that. Good for him.

143 webevintage  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:22:36am

re: #140 Gus 802

Sure. But of course at bachelor parties dry humping is a common practice.


Really?
I am so out of the loop and boring...

144 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:23:44am

BBL

145 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:24:19am

O'Donnell complains of 'character assassination'

Newark, Delaware (CNN) -- Delaware Republican Senate candidate Christine O'Donnell is asking voters to give her a second look. At a candidate forum sponsored by a group of local Republicans, O'Donnell blamed her campaign's recent troubles on unfair coverage in the "liberal media."

"I've put my name on the line. And I've taken a lot of hits ... a lot of character assassination," O'Donnell said.

A local GOP leader moderated Wednesday night's tightly controlled event, asking the candidate her positions on taxes, spending and the new health care law. O'Donnell did take a few questions from the audience. But she left the forum via a back door and did not stop for interviews with reporters.

O'Donnell has made fewer public appearances since her stunning Tea Party-backed win in the Republican primary three weeks ago. But just days after her victory, HBO comedian Bill Maher unearthed an embarrassing video clip of O'Donnell admitting she had once "dabbled in witchcraft."

Heh.

146 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:25:13am

re: #141 Varek Raith

If only it were a painting of Mohammad.
It'd be all good.
9_9

There is a picture of Mohammed in that "artwork." He's in the bedroom with the dancing piggies.

147 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:25:36am

re: #146 Alouette

There is a picture of Mohammed in that "artwork." He's in the bedroom with the dancing piggies.

Lol.
XD

148 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:32:54am

Believe it or not there was a controversy over this sculpture entitled "Triangle" in Loveland, Colorado in 2006:

Image: 20060803_024533_cd03loveland.jpg

Example of stupidity:

Little Love in Colorado Town for Another Nude Sculpture

Among the residents who have been angered rather than uplifted by ''Triangle'' is the Rev. Kevin Klug, the pastor of Abiding Love Lutheran Church. The congregation plans to build a new church for its 160 members on the east side of Loveland, just west of the grassy plot in the middle of a traffic circle where ''Triangle'' was installed on Friday.

Mr. Klug said he worried about what to say to his two children, ages 10 and 12, if they asked about the symbolism of ''Triangle.''

''It's more graphic than it needed to be and inappropriate regardless of whether our church was going in there or not,'' he said. ''If you put it on a public street -- if that's the way you've got to go to take your kids to drop them off at the recreation park or if you're going to the high school or coming to our church -- you don't have a choice as to whether you go by it or not.''

Some two dozen residents unsuccessfully petitioned the City Council recently to postpone the placement of ''Triangle,'' which joins about 280 other pieces of artwork in Loveland, including 102 sculptures in Benson Park. Six of the park's sculptures are nudes, and there is another nude sculpture downtown.

Image: controversial_Loveland_Sculpture-funny_sign.jpg

149 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:33:09am

re: #145 Varek Raith


Good distraction from the point brought up by none other than Karl Rove (before he tucked in his tail and grovelled away) that there are some serious inconsistencies in her reported background.

And i really believe that she feels deep down somehow (*sniff*) upset (*sniff*) that people are dogging her with the witch story. To most of us it is a just a joke, but to her thinking witchcraft is a serious* evil, and she seems genuinely upset about being associated with it still.

AND SHE IS NOT ME!!! I WORSHIP SATAN!!!

/

150 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:34:12am

re: #148 Gus 802

Sculpture controversy embroils council

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So, is morality in the heart of the beholder — or in the hands of city officials?

Controversy over too much bronze skin landed that moral debate in the laps of Loveland City Council members Tuesday night. .....

Apparently this controversy has not died down. They are still battling it out there.

Loveland Arts Commission Chair Resigns

Group Fights For Move Of Nude Sculpture

The head of the Loveland Arts Commission stepped down last week as the city council considers a plan to give the city council members more oversight of the arts commission. The proposal comes amid controversy about a piece of art called 'Triangle.'

The work shows two nude people holding up a third naked person. It is placed in the middle of a roundabout on the east side of Loveland near Corvus Dr. and Sculptor Dr.

"I believe there is a minority of people that are bound and determined that whatever method, whatever is necessary, they're going to have this thing, not moved, but removed," Jim Baldwin, the former chair of the arts commission said. .....

151 webevintage  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:37:53am

re: #148 Gus 802

Believe it or not there was a controversy over this sculpture entitled "Triangle" in Loveland, Colorado in 2006:

Image: 20060803_024533_cd03loveland.jpg

Example of stupidity:

Mr. Klug said he worried about what to say to his two children, ages 10 and 12, if they asked about the symbolism of ''Triangle.''

I guess if a nude is involved then it is always about sex...dirty stinky sex...sexsexsex....
I'd suggest Mr. Klug find some place else to build his church since the sculpture was there first.

152 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:39:33am

re: #141 Varek Raith

If only it were a painting of Mohammad.
It'd be all good.
9_9

He was in there but luckily no one seemed to notice or it could have been worse.

153 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:40:15am

Playboy Indonesia's editor ready for jail

The former editor-in-chief of Playboy Indonesia is ready to begin his two-year jail sentence for publishing pictures of scantily clothed women, his lawyer said Thursday.

The Supreme Court said in August that it had found Erwin Arnada guilty of violating the predominantly Muslim nation's indecency laws, overruling an earlier aquittal. He was sentenced to two years behind bars.

Though Arnada has denied wrongdoing, he will comply with the verdict while launching a final appeal, said his lawyer, Ina Rahman. The former editor planned to turn himself in to the Jakarta Penitentiary Center later Thursday.

154 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:40:56am

re: #151 webevintage

I guess if a nude is involved then it is always about sex...dirty stinky sex...sexsexsex...
I'd suggest Mr. Klug find some place else to build his church since the sculpture was there first.

That's what I've been saying about building codes, once a church or school moves into a neighborhood it's all down hill.

155 Jadespring  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:41:05am

re: #151 webevintage

I guess if a nude is involved then it is always about sex...dirty stinky sex...sexsexsex...
I'd suggest Mr. Klug find some place else to build his church since the sculpture was there first.

I guess some people can't handle it. I did a few art history courses in Uni and in one class we were looking at classical sculpture. (greek, roman etc). One girls dropped out because she couldn't handle all of the 'pornography'. She even filed a complaint which of course went nowhere.

156 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:42:34am

re: #151 webevintage

I guess if a nude is involved then it is always about sex...dirty stinky sex...sexsexsex...
I'd suggest Mr. Klug find some place else to build his church since the sculpture was there first.

Kind of hard to believe that we have people around that are still living in the Dark Ages. The sculpture looks a lot like a classical work of art.

I was rather surprised that a gallery in Loveland had decided to display the art work that's creating such a big ruckus with the archaic thumpers of late. Guess that's over with now that Kathleen Folden went ahead and damaged the art piece. To be honest I'm glad she's from Montana and not Colorado. We already have enough wingers giving our state a bad name.

157 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:43:42am

Pea shooting champion threatened with fine over phallic garden hedge

Green-fingered Ian Ashmeade, 53, snipped a bush on his driveway into the offending shape in 2002 as a laugh after he noticed the shrub had started to grow that way on its own.

But a police officer visited his home last week and threatened him with an £80 fine for a public order offence if he did not ”modify” the topiary.

Image: phallichedge1.jpg

158 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:45:17am

re: #157 Killgore Trout

Pea shooting champion threatened with fine over phallic garden hedge

Image: phallichedge1.jpg

Looks like the cop is being a dick.

159 Interesting Times  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:45:50am

re: #157 Killgore Trout

Pea shooting champion threatened with fine over phallic garden hedge

Image: phallichedge1.jpg

Needs more Viagra Miracle Gro.

160 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:46:12am

re: #157 Killgore Trout

Pea shooting champion threatened with fine over phallic garden hedge

Image: phallichedge1.jpg

That's hilarious since it does look, well, phallic. Which reminds me of another stupid controversy over the phallic bollards.

Image: 070706_threeposts.jpg

161 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:46:35am

re: #157 Killgore Trout

Pea shooting champion threatened with fine over phallic garden hedge

Image: phallichedge1.jpg

So he chops it down. He'll still have a bush.

162 jaunte  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:47:56am

re: #157 Killgore Trout

He could plant mushrooms.

163 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:48:00am

Basically, people can find offense at anything that is longer than it is wide if they are out to prove to the world how moralismic they can be.

164 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:48:06am

re: #161 wrenchwench

So he chops it down. He'll still have a bush.

lol

165 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:48:15am

re: #152 RogueOne

He was in there but luckily no one seemed to notice or it could have been worse.

Or they did notice but didn't freakout and try to destroy it.

166 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:49:31am

Jury receives synagogue bomb plot case

The trial of a New York man charged with planning to bomb a synagogue and Jewish community center now is in the hands of a jury.

Prosecutors said James Cromitie and three other men -- David Williams, Onta Williams and Laguerre Payen -- conspired to blow up the Riverdale Temple and Riverdale Jewish Community Center in Riverdale, N.Y, as well as planned to launch surface-to-air missiles at a U.S. National Guard facility in New York, CNN reported Wednesday. The four Newburgh, N.Y., men were arrested in May 2009.

The panel was to begin deliberating Wednesday after spending six weeks listening to testimony and undercover tapes made by Shahed Hussain, an FBI informant. On the tapes, Cromitie could be heard telling Hussain, "I am a soldier in America but not for America," and discussing needing a fatwa, or decree, from an imam.

Goodbye assholes. I hope the jury sentences these guys quickly.

167 jaunte  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:49:35am

re: #160 Gus 802

Funny response from the city:

The city is looking into retrofitting the posts with metal collars and chains that run between them, which they hope will change the look.
168 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:49:50am

re: #157 Killgore Trout

So, they're asking him to trim the bush. Kinky.

169 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:50:32am

re: #168 lawhawk

So, they're asking him to trim the bush. Kinky.

I think they are just requesting that he circumcise it...

170 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:50:37am

re: #167 jaunte

Funny, but they look like Dalleks to me. But if the city wants to break out the collars and chains, by all means...

171 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:51:17am

re: #169 ralphieboy

Only if the requisite prayers are recited. /

172 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:51:24am

re: #167 jaunte

Funny response from the city:

I remember that and found it funny at the time. People can be so weird.

173 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:51:50am

re: #170 lawhawk

Funny, but they look like Dalleks to me. But if the city wants to break out the collars and chains, by all means...

EXTERMINATE!

EXTERMINATE!

EXTERMINATE!

174 lostlakehiker  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:53:29am

re: #99 bloodstar

I'd say it sucks to be Lou Dobbs right now, but I imagine the xenophobics will find all sorts of justifications and excuses for him to employ illegal immigrants.

I hear the people on the right complain about the elites and that somehow the left are full of people who think they're better than the average person. And then I see all the people on the right who claim to be just like the average guy, engaging in behaviors that would get a normal person drummed out of town. Or doing things that they feel are immoral, illegal, or just plain wrong, and then acting like somehow the rules and demands they make on the rest of us don't apply to them. Oh no, they're too important for that. The real elites aren't on the left anymore. The real elites are the heads of of the conservative movements. The same conservative movement that makes such big noises about being just like you and me; all the while when they think no one is looking, doing the very things they demagogue and spit on.

And you know, personally, I don't care that Dobbs did employ illegals, and am a pretty big proponent of a more open immigration policy. I figure if we let more people in legally, but have a rigorous vetting program, it'll actually reduce stress on the open borders. How you ask? Because at that point the number people crossing illegally for jobs will drop, which means that our INS and LEO can have more confidence that the people who *do* cross illegally are in fact drug smugglers or engaged in some other illegal activity.

I don't care that Dobbs did it, I care that he's tried his best to spread hate and fear about illegals. That he' spent years using them as a whipping boy to drum up a frenzy, and then he did it. That's really shitty behavior.


They're ALL engaged in at least one illegal activity: border crossing without permission. This is not a triviality. The United States, like every other nation, has a perfect right to limit who may live here. People wishing to come and live in our country are not entitled to do so just because that's what they want.

Some prospective immigrants have a lot to offer. When they do get in, they win and we win. Other prospective immigrants have less to offer. At some point, the balance tips into negative territory. We have our own poor, who must find work in the low-skill sector of the economy or turn to public assistance. What can be the point of making these, our own poor, face ever stiffer competition for those jobs?

Mixed in among immigrants who just want a job [and at that, a job that some of our own people could use] are those with other motives and with a dangerous skill set. The larger the flow of relatively innocent, but unhelpful, illegal immigrants, the more difficult it becomes to detect and capture the truly dangerous ones.

We are a desirable destination. We are in a position to pick and choose who we admit. Why not put however much it takes into border enforcement, and admit, instead of illegal immigrants who may or may not bring us any real benefit, legal immigrants whose skill set fits our needs?

175 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:55:14am

main page of HuffPo:

Little-Noticed Bill Could Make It Harder To Challenge Foreclosures
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]


Challenging foreclosures could become more difficult for homeowners if the president signs a bill that passed through the Senate last week. The little-noticed bill comes at a time when the validity of foreclosure proceedings across the nation has been called into question.

The House passed the bill in April, and its brisk journey through the Senate has drawn scant attention, Reuters reports. If signed into law, it would require courts to accept certain documents that have been notarized out of state, streamlining foreclosure proceedings and stripping homeowners of one legal method of challenging a foreclosure. The legislation would come just as a foreclosure validity crisis is mounting: GMAC, JPMorgan Chase and Bank of America have admitted to not properly reviewing some of their foreclosure documents.

This is basically another bank bailout bill. Whoever voted for this POS needs to lose their seats.

176 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:57:04am

re: #165 Varek Raith

Or they did notice but didn't freakout and try to destroy it.

Yeah, because they take caricatures of Mohammed really well.

177 lostlakehiker  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:57:10am

re: #151 webevintage

I guess if a nude is involved then it is always about sex...dirty stinky sex...sexsexsex...
I'd suggest Mr. Klug find some place else to build his church since the sculpture was there first.

Oh geez. That is not porn. It's kind of nice. And in Love Land, of all places. :-)

178 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:57:46am

re: #176 RogueOne

Yeah, because they take caricatures of Mohammed really well.

Well, was it attacked?
No.
The one depicting Jesus was.

179 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 9:59:42am

re: #174 lostlakehiker

They're ALL engaged in at least one illegal activity: border crossing without permission.

Incorrect. 40% enter legally, and overstay their visas. A different illegal activity, although it still meets the "at least one" criterion.

180 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 10:00:34am

re: #178 Varek Raith

Well, was it attacked?
No.
The one depicting Jesus was.

Like I said, no one seemed to notice. Luckily for the area they already did the terrorist sweep last year.

Please, please, please don't play stupid and make me post link after link after link when you know what happens when word gets out that someone had the audacity to draw Mohammed. If nothing else at least this artist had the balls.

181 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 10:01:05am

K. Now, Back To Work!

182 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 10:01:10am

re: #176 RogueOne

Yeah, because they take caricatures of Mohammed really well.

So is every art controversy involving alleged blasphemy going to lead back to prior reactions by a select segment of the world Muslim population? It's a matter of focus really. The opposition in question here is not Muslims but Christian who are protesting the artwork in Loveland, Colorado. Thinking about the Mohamed controversies is just a distraction. In the end, blasphemy is protected under the 1st Amendment regardless of religion -- that is the main point. We should be focusing on the freedom.

183 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 10:02:02am

re: #180 RogueOne

Like I said, no one seemed to notice. Luckily for the area they already did the terrorist sweep last year.

Please, please, please don't play stupid and make me post link after link after link when you know what happens when word gets out that someone had the audacity to draw Mohammed. If nothing else at least this artist had the balls.

You're the one playing stupid.

Like I said, no one seemed to notice.

Yeah, I'm sure.

184 darthstar  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 10:02:44am

re: #117 Decatur Deb

Hope it stays there for a few terms.

I could see a certain party's candidate promising to remove the solar panels and replace the White House Garden with a clean-coal energy plant...

185 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 10:03:05am

Artist installs controversial artwork depicting Joseph Smith involved in sex acts! Mormons protest!

Yeah, but could you imagine what would happen if they did that with Mohamed?

/

186 Gus  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 10:04:25am

re: #184 darthstar

I could see a certain party's candidate promising to remove the solar panels and replace the White House Garden with a clean-coal energy plant... an oil well

FTFY

187 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 10:05:47am

re: #183 Varek Raith

That was overly harsh on my part.
Sorry, Rogue.

188 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 10:17:19am

re: #174 lostlakehiker

They're ALL engaged in at least one illegal activity: border crossing without permission. This is not a triviality. The United States, like every other nation, has a perfect right to limit who may live here. People wishing to come and live in our country are not entitled to do so just because that's what they want.

Some prospective immigrants have a lot to offer. When they do get in, they win and we win. Other prospective immigrants have less to offer. At some point, the balance tips into negative territory. We have our own poor, who must find work in the low-skill sector of the economy or turn to public assistance. What can be the point of making these, our own poor, face ever stiffer competition for those jobs?

Mixed in among immigrants who just want a job [and at that, a job that some of our own people could use] are those with other motives and with a dangerous skill set. The larger the flow of relatively innocent, but unhelpful, illegal immigrants, the more difficult it becomes to detect and capture the truly dangerous ones.

We are a desirable destination. We are in a position to pick and choose who we admit. Why not put however much it takes into border enforcement, and admit, instead of illegal immigrants who may or may not bring us any real benefit, legal immigrants whose skill set fits our needs?

You've made a well thought out post on Immigration, but there are a couple of things that are significant that need to be pointed out.

first, entering the country illegally and overstaying a visa are both civil torts. As such are not prosecuted via the legal system. and are instead handled in a totally different manner.

Second, generally people who come to the US are going to be the best, the brightest and the most determined people. I'm sorry, but the stereotyping of lazy immigrants coming here to suck on the Teat of government welfare is a very bad one. I mean, think about it, you're willing to travel literally thousands of miles, risk robbery and death from exposure or other maladies both man made and environmental. And come to try to scratch out a living. Do you think that someone who isn't willing to work their ass off would put that much effort into getting to the US.

And in general we're on the same page. I'm not disagreeing that we need to restrict illegal immigration. I'm saying if we want to restrict it more, we need to expand our immigration program so the best and the brightest and the hardest working people do have a chance to come to the US.

That's a win win, because not only do you have the best coming over, you have people who feel welcome in the US, and you reduce the workload on the border patrols and increase the odds that they'll be able to track drug smugglers or other people trying to enter the US to cause mischief and harm.

:)

189 webevintage  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 10:34:38am

re: #188 bloodstar

You've made a well thought out post on Immigration, but there are a couple of things that are significant that need to be pointed out.

What amazes me is the fact that more folks have been kicked out by this administration then past ones AND they are spending more money at the borders BUT the GOPTeatard party is STILL refuses to admit that Obama is doing anything about illegal immigration.

190 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 7, 2010 12:13:41pm

re: #187 Varek Raith

That was overly harsh on my part.
Sorry, Rogue.

No problem, No blood no foul. Plus, I sort of started it so "my bad". (Manly pat on the back.)


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