Tech Note: New Tweet Button

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Twitter recently launched a new Tweet Button feature, and I’m trying it out today at LGF. As you can see, it includes a count of the number of times the link to the article has been posted at Twitter.

I’m letting you know this because I need to test what happens when I post a new article; will the Twitter API automatically shorten the article’s URL with Twitter’s t.co service?

UPDATE at 10/9/10 5:48:32 pm:

Well, Twitter is apparently going to start auto-shortening links inside API-posted tweets any day now, but they’re not doing it yet.

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1 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 3:42:13pm

And now I know -- nope, it doesn't use t.co.

2 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 3:51:08pm

It did when I tested just

3 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 3:51:21pm

[Link: t.co...]

4 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 3:53:32pm

re: #2 negativ

It did when I tested just

Yes, it works when you post it through the new Tweet Button. I meant when I first post the article with my LGF Blog software, which is registered as a Twitter app to use their API. It doesn't appear to automatically shorten links posted that way.

5 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 3:58:44pm

I had a Tweet oddity yesterday. I tried to tweet this Page, and Twitter couldn't do more than "Ju", apparently stopped by the accented u. I changed it to an unaccented u and it went through. Stuck on html?

Juandaacute;rez , That spells "Juarez" with the accented u in html. Works in preview....

6 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 4:23:32pm

re: #5 wrenchwench

I had a Tweet oddity yesterday. I tried to tweet this Page, and Twitter couldn't do more than "Ju", apparently stopped by the accented u. I changed it to an unaccented u and it went through. Stuck on html?

Juandaacute;rez , That spells "Juarez" with the accented u in html. Works in preview...

Hmm. There's some funny business going on with the way Twitter handles HTML character entities. Because of little weirdnesses like that, I usually try to keep accented characters out of my article titles.

7 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 4:27:39pm

re: #6 Charles

Yeah, I'll use the unaccented version for titles, and also for tags, to keep it simple. Even local newspaper websites aren't set up to handle accents and tildes. You'd think it was a foreign language.

8 Stanghazi  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 4:31:31pm

Sooo off topic, but may I take this moment to say how much I luuurve Steve Spurrier!!!!

9 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 4:53:17pm

Any interesting antics for the lizard army tonight?

10 Kragar  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:00:14pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

Any interesting antics for the lizard army tonight?

Working on a bunch of Imperial Guard and waiting for a friend to show up for dinner.

11 Stanghazi  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:01:53pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

Any interesting antics for the lizard army tonight?

Gamecocks beat Alabama! #19 beats #1.

Pretty huge.

12 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:04:34pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

Sooo off topic, but may I take this moment to say how much I luuurve Steve Spurrier!!!

And not much likee Nick Sabin.
At least in 'round these parts.
Folks hold a grudge for a loooong time.

13 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:04:40pm

re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Working on a bunch of Imperial Guard and waiting for a friend to show up for dinner.

Who's trying to overthrow the Empire of Man tonight?

14 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:06:26pm

re: #12 reine.de.tout

And not much likee Nick Sabin.
At least in 'round these parts.
Folks hold a grudge for a looong time.

war eagle.

15 Kragar  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:09:12pm

re: #13 Dark_Falcon

Who's trying to overthrow the Empire of Man tonight?

Nothing tonight. Just working on filling out some more units. Might have a game or 2 next week.

16 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:21:48pm

re: #13 Dark_Falcon

Who's trying to overthrow the Empire of Man tonight?

I'm going to be trying to make it through a 4 hour and 45 minute shift tonight with a bruised left knee.

Over the last two days, my body has been trying to fight a cold coming on, my ears have been blocked and stomach upset. Last night, I come home, take a night time cold tablet, go to bed, about 45 minutes later, get up to get a drink of water, and walking back to the bedroom, I fainted.

Busted the left knee a bit, seems like nothing is broken and pulled, just a good smack to it. I actually went back to the bedroom, sat on the edge of the bed, and passed out again, hit the floor with my head. That didn't hurt anything.

But knee is sore,,, and I have almost 5 hours on my feet tonight, should be interesting.

P.S. Head cold, or what was trying to to become a head cold, all gone.

17 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:25:37pm

From the big Tea Party convention that even the wingnut blogs aren't covering....
Virginia Tea Party Patriots Convention: Chris Christie Wins the Straw Poll

The surprise winner of the 2012 straw poll at the Virginia Tea Patriots Convention -- announced by a literal drum roll -- is Gov. Chris Christie (R-N.J.). He won 14% of the vote in a 15-way ballot, beating Sarah Palin (13.5%), Ron Paul (12.5%), Newt Gingrich (8.4%), and Jim DeMint (7.3%), in a poll of 1,560 attendees -- at least twice as large as the news-making Values Voter straw poll, if I'm remembering correctly.

18 jamesfirecat  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:31:06pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

Any interesting antics for the lizard army tonight?


Trying to get people together for a game of Arkham horror.

My first one went pretty well, when we decided to break it down for time reasons, Hasture was at 8 doom tokens, with the terror track at two, no monsters on the board and two sealed gates.

With only a minus 2 per attack we probably could have pounded him into the ground if we woke up with good enough luck.....

19 jamesfirecat  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:32:25pm

re: #17 Killgore Trout

From the big Tea Party convention that even the wingnut blogs aren't covering...
Virginia Tea Party Patriots Convention: Chris Christie Wins the Straw Poll

Isn't Christie's only experience in government his stint as govonor which isn't even two years old yet?

20 Renaissance_Man  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:33:58pm

re: #16 Walter L. Newton

Vasovagal episodes after a cold and flu pill are a sign to get your heart and blood pressure checked.

21 Kragar  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:37:35pm

re: #18 jamesfirecat

Trying to get people together for a game of Arkham horror.

My first one went pretty well, when we decided to break it down for time reasons, Hasture was at 8 doom tokens, with the terror track at two, no monsters on the board and two sealed gates.

With only a minus 2 per attack we probably could have pounded him into the ground if we woke up with good enough luck...

Never played that one. All my Cthulhu gaming was off the Chaosium system, which is really a great RPG system.

22 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:38:58pm

Yes, it's finally hapening.....
9-11 Trutherism comes to Fox News
Wingnuts can't say they weren't warned.

23 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:39:15pm

re: #19 jamesfirecat

Isn't Christie's only experience in government his stint as govonor which isn't even two years old yet?

Well, look on the bright side: Chris Christie really is fiscally conservative and he's not a wingnut. He actually might be a good choice.

24 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:40:33pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Yes, it's finally hapening...
9-11 Trutherism comes to Fox News
Wingnuts can't say they weren't warned.

Link didn't work.

25 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:42:21pm

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

26 jamesfirecat  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:43:16pm

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

Well, look on the bright side: Chris Christie really is fiscally conservative and he's not a wingnut. He actually might be a good choice.

Yes, but he's had even less governmental experience than Sarah Palin...

And he's had NO experience of how things are run on a national level....

That does not amke a good presidential resume in my book....

Also so far everytime we try and elect a fisical conservative, it seems to just mean they don't raise taxes but still spend just as much money as the other guys.... pushing the buck down the line to ourselves in a few years.

I'll settle for someone who is honest and says he isn't afraid to raise taxes if that is what is called for....

27 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:44:20pm

re: #16 Walter L. Newton

You might benefit from Thorlo socks. Designed to reduce the pressure of your sport. Specific by use. Expensive, but I have found them very helpful.

28 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:44:41pm

re: #25 Charles

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Thank you, Charles.

29 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:48:39pm

re: #27 Floral Giraffe

You might benefit from Thorlo socks. Designed to reduce the pressure of your sport. Specific by use. Expensive, but I have found them very helpful.

So have I, and I've had to work shifts like Walter does. Thorlos are worth every penny.

30 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:50:06pm

Time to get in my box. Later, lizards.

31 Stanghazi  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:51:22pm

re: #12 reine.de.tout

And not much likee Nick Sabin.
At least in 'round these parts.
Folks hold a grudge for a looong time.

He's slippery.

Cannot stand him.

Hey, Gators are wearing old throw back orange jerseys. Happy!

32 Randall Gross  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:54:18pm

Walter: Like Renaissance said, get a check up stat.

33 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 5:58:30pm

re: #25 Charles

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Thanks.

34 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:01:12pm

Tweeting your page contributions is well worth the effort. Fox News trutherism is over 100 views already. 7 retweets.

35 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:01:42pm

re: #25 Charles

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Good gravy!

36 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:04:29pm

FoxNews confuses the shit out of me.

37 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:06:10pm

re: #36 Varek Raith

FoxNews confuses the shit out of me.

When it starts to make sense then you worry, mon.

38 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:07:06pm

re: #37 Decatur Deb

When it starts to make sense then you worry, mon.

It messes with mah equilibrium, man!

39 jamesfirecat  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:07:51pm

re: #37 Decatur Deb

When it starts to make sense then you worry, mon.

As long as you still get confused, and are frightened by the Sultan in Saffron, you don't need to check into Arkham yet.... but when it starts making sense....

40 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:10:37pm

re: #38 Varek Raith

It messes with mah equilibrium, man!

Ziggy will emancipate your mind from mental slavery.

[Link: vids.myspace.com...]

41 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:20:49pm

Troll "Babaoreilly" has just been clubbed by Charles. I will now grill the troll and serve it with a Guinness Glaze. Ready in 30. Please place soda and side dish orders now.

42 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:23:15pm

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

Troll "Babaoreilly" has just been clubbed by Charles. I will now grill the troll and serve it with a Guinness Glaze. Ready in 30. Please place soda and side dish orders now.

Anyone got stats on how well these Young Libertarians do in their history courses?

43 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:26:27pm

re: #42 Decatur Deb

Anyone got stats on how well these Young Libertarians do in their history courses?

That guy wasn't YL92. YL92 isn't that crazy/stupid.

44 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:27:27pm

re: #31 Stanley Sea

He's slippery.

Cannot stand him.

Hey, Gators are wearing old throw back orange jerseys. Happy!

Hey - we got us a contest here tonight, eh?

45 jamesfirecat  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:28:24pm

re: #43 Dark_Falcon

That guy wasn't YL92. YL92 isn't that crazy/stupid.

Yeah and he was posting ont he wrong issues.

Doesn't YL92 tend to give the game away ranting about "The New York Slimes"?

46 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:28:43pm

re: #43 Dark_Falcon

That guy wasn't YL92. YL92 isn't that crazy/stupid.

Nah, but he's been reading the same ponderous novels.

47 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:30:08pm

re: #46 Decatur Deb

Nah, but he's been reading the same ponderous novels.

Well, I own a small number of Turtledove's novel and I really liked Guns of the South.

48 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:30:54pm

re: #45 jamesfirecat

Yeah and he was posting ont he wrong issues.

Doesn't YL92 tend to give the game away ranting about "The New York Slimes"?

He had a definite evolution. At one time I thought he was some kind of automated libertarian script.

49 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:31:26pm

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

Well, I own a small number of Turtledove's novel and I really liked Guns of the South.

Thinking St. Ayn, here.

50 jaunte  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:31:43pm

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

I enjoyed that one too.

51 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:34:13pm

re: #49 Decatur Deb

Thinking St. Ayn, here.

Ah I see; Someone who wants to "Go Gault".

52 jamesfirecat  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:35:38pm

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

Well, I own a small number of Turtledove's novel and I really liked Guns of the South.

Sentry Hill, Marching Through the Peachtree Province, and Advance and Retreate aren't too bad either.....


Or his World War series which I have all six books of....

53 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:36:05pm

re: #5 wrenchwench

I had a Tweet oddity yesterday. I tried to tweet this Page, and Twitter couldn't do more than "Ju", apparently stopped by the accented u. I changed it to an unaccented u and it went through. Stuck on html?

Juandaacute;rez , That spells "Juarez" with the accented u in html. Works in preview...

I had a coworker from Juandaacute;rez once--wonder how he's doing.

54 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:38:16pm

re: #43 Dark_Falcon

That guy wasn't YL92. YL92 isn't that crazy/stupid.

Unless he's just bored, and seeing how a new persona works for him.

55 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:39:39pm

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

Well, I own a small number of Turtledove's novel and I really liked Guns of the South.

My dad reads them too. But frankly, my dad will read anything with too many pages that describes the women briefly as 'attractive', and spends pages on the charms and wiles of the guns. Extra points if there are maps inside.

56 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:43:14pm

Good evening Lizards!

57 jaunte  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:43:56pm

re: #56 HoosierHoops

Evening, Hoops. Are you healed up?

58 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:47:12pm

re: #57 jaunte

Evening, Hoops. Are you healed up?

Nope..It's going to leave a mark...But my face stopped hurting...How are you tonight?
I got the cable, Internet and phone hooked up this morning...I stopped ripping off wireless to post...Man..I was feeling guilty there for awhile..LOL

59 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:47:22pm

re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist

Unless he's just bored, and seeing how a new persona works for him.

Yeah. YL would always sneak in and pretend he was new. He wouldn't go off right away.

60 Stanghazi  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:48:09pm

re: #44 reine.de.tout

Hey - we got us a contest here tonight, eh?

Reine! I'm at what I call the "chickfest" 12 women at a beautiful Big Bear Cabin. Went on a pontoon boat today all day.

Took me 45 minutes to figure out the 8 remote control direct TV system to FIND THE DAMN GAME. Found it! What a weekend!

61 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:48:13pm

I see the stalker this evening are pissed at me for calling their newly found quest for the truth behind 9-11 and the subsequent government cover up a "Conspiracy Theory". Make no mistake about it. Today's Tea Party "conservatives" are more than willing to embrace Trutherism.

62 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:48:58pm

re: #59 Gus 802

Yeah. YL would always sneak in and pretend he was new. He wouldn't go off right away.

Yeah, they were different in style, but I'm going to name the whole genus for YL.

63 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:49:42pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

I see the stalker this evening are pissed at me for calling their newly found quest for the truth behind 9-11 and the subsequent government cover up a "Conspiracy Theory". Make no mistake about it. Today's Tea Party "conservatives" are more than willing to embrace Trutherism.

Able Danger is an old favorite for the truthers.

64 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:49:58pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

I see the stalker this evening are pissed at me for calling their newly found quest for the truth behind 9-11 and the subsequent government cover up a "Conspiracy Theory". Make no mistake about it. Today's Tea Party "conservatives" are more than willing to embrace Trutherism.

I don't agree wit hthat last but I'm going to see what going on over there.

65 jaunte  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:51:03pm

re: #58 HoosierHoops

Good to hear you're not hurting; congratulations on getting more settled in.

66 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:51:14pm

re: #63 Gus 802

Able Danger is an old favorite for the truthers.

It's classic old school trutherism.

67 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:52:52pm

re: #66 Killgore Trout

It's classic old school trutherism.

So they hate Bush, but want to keep implementing his policies?

68 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:53:21pm

re: #66 Killgore Trout

It's classic old school trutherism.

Along with the associated imagery. Three things are at work here. One, Fox News gave them the green light. Second, the conspiracy implicates Clinton. And third, they have a man crush for Lt. Col Tony Shaffer.

69 jaunte  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:53:27pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

Fox is all over the story:
[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

70 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:56:45pm

re: #63 Gus 802

Able Danger is an old favorite for the truthers.

The tenacity of the debunkers at the praiseworthy JREF is either highly admirable, or borderline pathological.
[Link: forums.randi.org...]
My patience ran out circa 2007.

71 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:57:31pm

re: #68 Gus 802

Along with the associated imagery. Three things are at work here. One, Fox News gave them the green light. Second, the conspiracy implicates Clinton. And third, they have a man crush for Lt. Col Tony Shaffer.

Remember Bora Bora!

(What's with the bikini clad gun slinging gals?)

72 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:57:35pm

re: #68 Gus 802

Along with the associated imagery. Three things are at work here. One, Fox News gave them the green light. Second, the conspiracy implicates Clinton. And third, they have a man crush for Lt. Col Tony Shaffer.

I'm behind on Trutherism, but jaunte's link makes this look like T'ism Lite. That is, the gov bungled the intel and covered up. I think hard-core T'ism proposes the US set the charges or flew the planes.

73 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:57:51pm

re: #69 jaunte

Fox is all over the story:
[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

And if you search "Anthony Shaffer" "911 was an inside job" the first links are to Above Top Secret. Later we find We Are Change, Infowars, Pravda, Antiwar dot Com.

74 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 6:59:13pm

re: #66 Killgore Trout

It's classic old school trutherism.

I dunno. To look at the Wiki article (I know, I know) it would seem to be a case of an intelligence failure, not a 'inside job' allegation.

75 jaunte  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:00:05pm

re: #73 Gus 802

I don't see much in the Fox story that isn't coming directly from Lt. Col Tony Shaffer.

76 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:00:28pm

re: #73 Gus 802

And if you search "Anthony Shaffer" "911 was an inside job" the first links are to Above Top Secret. Later we find We Are Change, Infowars, Pravda, Antiwar dot Com.

Yikes.

77 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:01:39pm

re: #75 jaunte

I don't see much in the Fox story that isn't coming directly from Lt. Col Tony Shaffer.

As someone said about Ollie North, "Lieutenant Colonels are the fourth branch of government".

78 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:03:05pm

re: #75 jaunte

I don't see much in the Fox story that isn't coming directly from Lt. Col Tony Shaffer.

Much of which was hearsay. Napotilano looks like he's about to have an aneurysm at any moment.

79 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:04:39pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

As someone said about Ollie North, "Lieutenant Colonels are the fourth branch of government".

That's because they are the highest officers that can be quietly promoted to the rank. Full Colonels and above require the approval of Congress. Since their rank is a matter of public record, they cannot be plausibly denied.

80 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:05:13pm

re: #75 jaunte

I don't see much in the Fox story that isn't coming directly from Lt. Col Tony Shaffer.

It strikes me as being odd that Fox News now thinks it's OK for the people to assess our national security posture and/or history based on a book, hearsay, and unnamed sources. All of which traditionally stood for a conspiracy or trutherism. This is also after the DoD destroyed copies of Shaffer's book. This would have been unheard of during the Bush White House years.

81 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:05:40pm

re: #78 marjoriemoon

Much of which was hearsay. Napotilano looks like he's about to have an aneurysm at any moment.

Then why didn't he call the loon out? It would have been easy, and Fox has done it before.

82 jaunte  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:07:51pm

re: #80 Gus 802

They also don't seem to have a problem (now) with someone who releases top secret NSA classified information in a book manuscript, without a formal security review.

83 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:08:58pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

That's because they are the highest officers that can be quietly promoted to the rank. Full Colonels and above require the approval of Congress. Since their rank is a matter of public record, they cannot be plausibly denied.

It is also a relatively plentiful rank in peacetime. They tended to clutter the halls to get their "Pentagon Time".

84 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:09:30pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

Then why didn't he call the loon out? It would have been easy, and Fox has done it before.

Looks like they've had a change in policy.

85 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:09:56pm

re: #82 jaunte

They also don't seem to have a problem (now) with someone who releases top secret NSA classified information in a book manuscript, without a formal security review.

Well, it looks like Michelle Malkin was interested in Tony Shaffer and Able Danger back in 2005. Not so oddly enough, there are zero comments.

86 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:10:23pm

re: #69 jaunte

Fox is all over the story:
[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

lol@wingnuts!

87 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:11:26pm

re: #85 Gus 802

Well, it looks like Michelle Malkin was interested in Tony Shaffer and Able Danger back in 2005. Not so oddly enough, there are zero comments.


Interesting. She was a head of her time.

88 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:13:32pm

re: #87 Killgore Trout

Interesting. She was a head of her time.

Whoa! Here's the Motherlode.

89 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:14:40pm

Jeez..It would have been John Lennon's 70th birthday today...Hard to believe..
He will forever be young to all of us...

90 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:15:03pm

re: #84 marjoriemoon

Looks like they've had a change in policy.

Maybe. Napolitano is a hack of a host, so maybe he just let it ride. I'm going to wait before saying they've changed. One incident is not enough, there must be at least two, since one could be an accident.

91 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:21:45pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

Maybe. Napolitano is a hack of a host, so maybe he just let it ride. I'm going to wait before saying they've changed. One incident is not enough, there must be at least two, since one could be an accident.

Napolitano studied the material pretty well, considering his questions. So I think it was quite purposefully done.

More than it just being about hating Obama, much of the rightwing movement is as much about hating the government as a whole. Granted, it's a Democratic government, but it occurred to me there's this weird, kinda anarchist criss-crossing from either side. The birth of the rightwing anarchist? I can see Fox jumping on that bandwagon.

93 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:24:38pm

Well. Let the so called conservatives have fun with this Able Danger conspiracy theory. It largely implicates the Bush White House, Donald Rumsfeld, Curt Weldon (R), and others. Weldon said Mohamed Atta's name was on the chart just days after 911. I don't know much about this but there it is.

94 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:24:38pm

Looks like it's time for Penn & Teller:

CONSPIRACY THEORIES ARE BULLSHIT

pt1/3

Youtube Video

pt2/3

Youtube Video

pt3/3

Youtube Video


The funny thing is, that's only JUST the tip of the conspiracy theory iceberg.

95 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:25:19pm

re: #92 Killgore Trout

Alex Jones claims Glenn Beck was poisoned by Donald Rumsfeld
/Not kidding

Uh oh! Two posts in a row with Donald Rumsfeld's name on it! We're next!!11ty

96 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:26:11pm

re: #92 Killgore Trout

Alex Jones claims Glenn Beck was poisoned by Donald Rumsfeld
/Not kidding

WOW.

97 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:26:15pm

re: #91 marjoriemoon

I guess that would be rebirth. Ayn Rand was probably the Queen of rightwing anarchy.

98 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:26:17pm

re: #91 marjoriemoon

Napolitano studied the material pretty well, considering his questions. So I think it was quite purposefully done.

More than it just being about hating Obama, much of the rightwing movement is as much about hating the government as a whole. Granted, it's a Democratic government, but it occurred to me there's this weird, kinda anarchist criss-crossing from either side. The birth of the rightwing anarchist? I can see Fox jumping on that bandwagon.

Bingo. There are some numbers of people out there that don't hate The Government, they hate Governance. The religious equivalent is antinomianism.

99 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:27:18pm

re: #96 SanFranciscoZionist

WOW.

Yeah, I'm not sure how much longer I can do this. It's just all become so incredibly stupid.

100 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:27:32pm

re: #92 Killgore Trout

Alex Jones claims Glenn Beck was poisoned by Donald Rumsfeld
/Not kidding

I know he made my stomach turn on a few occasions.

101 jamesfirecat  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:28:05pm

re: #97 marjoriemoon

I guess that would be rebirth. Ayn Rand was probably the Queen of rightwing anarchy.

Made ironic because Ayn Rand would have nothing to do with the socon element of the Republican Party, which seems to be its main feature at the moment...

102 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:28:20pm

re: #99 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I'm not sure how much longer I can do this. It's just all become so incredibly stupid.

You mean like this?

Millions suffer insomnia because of the depletion of serotonin. Think of Heath Ledger. He took that horrible drug, Ambian CR for sleep, which makes your optic nerve and face swell and gives you horrible headaches. Plus, he drank Diet Coke and took other drugs and died of polypharmacy.

103 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:28:41pm

re: #98 Decatur Deb

Bingo. There are some numbers of people out there that don't hate The Government, they hate Governance. The religious equivalent is antinomianism.

And it's all so stupid, because it would take them about 5 seconds to elect their own leaders.

104 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:28:42pm

re: #92 Killgore Trout

Alex Jones claims Glenn Beck was poisoned by Donald Rumsfeld
/Not kidding

I've got $1 that says Alex Jones could run on this platform and make startling progress in 2012.

/also not kidding

105 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:29:57pm

Build a fence around the country and call it Arkham.

106 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:31:00pm

re: #99 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I'm not sure how much longer I can do this. It's just all become so incredibly stupid.

Here it is.

[Link: www.google.com...]

I got to it by going through Matt Drudge's and Andrew Breitbart's "Drudge Report" link to Infowars. ;)

107 freetoken  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:32:03pm

re: #104 negativ

I've got $1 that says Alex Jones could run on this platform and make startling progress in 2012.

"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."
-- Henry Mencken

Your bet is too low.

108 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:32:16pm

re: #101 jamesfirecat

Made ironic because Ayn Rand would have nothing to do with the socon element of the Republican Party, which seems to be its main feature at the moment...

I think she has more in common with the libertarians. What's weird is the Republican party has been leaning more libertarian - minus the religions aspects.

109 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:33:11pm

re: #92 Killgore Trout

Alex Jones claims Glenn Beck was poisoned by Donald Rumsfeld
/Not kidding

Come on, Glenn. do something good for once and kick these Troofers back into the cesspool, where they belong.

110 jaunte  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:33:15pm

re: #99 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I'm not sure how much longer I can do this. It's just all become so incredibly stupid.

From one of the sidebar ad links from that story:

Grow Your Own Survival Medicines
"The all new Survival Herb Bank is the perfect antidote for the poisonous, crippling system being pushed for by the Pelosi, Reid and Obama axis of evil. You can now tap into powerful “off the grid” health care, using all natural, time tested herbal medications. With the new Survival Herb Bank, you can grow and prepare your own survival herbs and take the first preventative step against the coming socialized medical shortages."
111 freetoken  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:33:43pm

re: #110 jaunte

BUY SEEDS!!

112 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:33:50pm

OK, let's try this on a thread with people.

Hola, Babes and babettes Or should that be Dudes and Dudettes?

Anyway, what fun and games have I missed today?

113 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:34:03pm

Yet another chemtrail story at Infowars:

Chemtrails: What In The World Are They Spraying?

Steve Watson & Paul Watson | Over the past decade and more, long white trails emanating from jet planes have been seen lingering in the skies, often expanding and merging to form vast swathes of artificial cloud cover.

Hahahahaha!

114 freetoken  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:34:42pm

re: #113 Gus 802

I'm expecting Fox News to start broadcasting stories about UFOs and Chemtrails.

Serious, I am.

FoxNews already has UFO stories on their website.

115 jamesfirecat  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:35:00pm

re: #108 marjoriemoon

I think she has more in common with the libertarians. What's weird is the Republican party has been leaning more libertarian - minus the religions aspects.

They've been leaning more Theo-con if you ask me....

116 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:35:26pm

re: #113 Gus 802

Yet another chemtrail story at Infowars:

Chemtrails: What In The World Are They Spraying?

Hahahahaha!

Image: facepalm2ce2.jpg

117 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:36:05pm

re: #99 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I'm not sure how much longer I can do this. It's just all become so incredibly stupid.

Look for patterns and build taxonomies. You can strip the 9/11 content out of T'ism and still have a working model: "P are hiding the truth about X, and have killed/threatened Y to hide their involvement." And so on...

118 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:36:10pm

re: #114 freetoken

I'm expecting Fox News to start broadcasting stories about UFOs and Chemtrails.

Serious, I am.

FoxNews already has UFO stories on their website.

CNN and MSNBC have also published UFO stories, so that last is not proof.

119 jaunte  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:37:01pm

re: #113 Gus 802

OMG!

Youtube Video
120 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:37:26pm

re: #118 Dark_Falcon

CNN and MSNBC have also published UFO stories, so that last is not proof.

Dammit.
My PR people suck at covering this...
Wait...
Nevermind.

121 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:38:00pm

re: #119 jaunte

OMG!

[Video]

It's like the sprinkler woman....
:/

122 freetoken  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:39:04pm

re: #118 Dark_Falcon

CNN and MSNBC have also published UFO stories, so that last is not proof.

Yeah, for the "weird and wonderful" story slots that news outlets have always had as "light news" ... that leave most people snickering.

Will the Fox News audience snicker, or will they just go along with it?

I realize that cable is full of this stuff - even the History Channel dabbles in the idiotic.

123 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:40:58pm

re: #116 Varek Raith

Image: facepalm2ce2.jpg

Dumb fecks. If it looks like a "grid pattern" that's because there is a pattern to air traffic.

124 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:41:24pm

Who needs to be poked? I brought a big stick with me tonight.

125 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:41:51pm

re: #119 jaunte

OMG!

[Video]

Good God. There's a pandemic of insanity in this country.

126 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:42:12pm

re: #110 jaunte

From one of the sidebar ad links from that story:

Ha. I have to give companies like that some kudos just from the sheer and blatant capitalizing on all of this. Wouldn't surprise me at all if these actual companies could care less about the politics but just know a good marketing strategy when they see one.

I grow and make some really basic medicinal things like creams and teas for minor ailments. Might as well use what I can find in my backyard. Sometimes I wish my morals were a bit darker because heck I could easily market the stuff this way and make some extra cash. Just can't do it though.

127 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:43:05pm

If you are going to do chemtrails, do it right.

Youtube Video
128 jaunte  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:43:35pm

re: #125 Gus 802

As I understand the video so far, the scientific establishment wants to deny organic food to Mariel Hemingway.

129 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:44:07pm

re: #105 Varek Raith

Build a fence around the country and call it Arkham.

No doubt. But is it the Frank Miller / Alan Moore Arkham, or the Adam West / Burt Ward Arkham?

130 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:47:50pm

re: #119 jaunte

OMG!

[Video]

What a surprise. G. Edward Griffin:

By 1964, Griffin had completed his first book, The Fearful Master, on the United Nations, a challenging topic that recurs throughout his writings. When George Wallace ran for U.S. president in the election of 1968, winning five states for the paleoconservative third-party American Independent Party, Griffin served as a writer for Wallace's vice presidential candidate, Curtis LeMay,[1] a retired General of the Air Force. In the next year, Griffin began producing political films for American Media of Los Angeles[1] (later moving to Thousand Oaks and Westlake Village, California), of which he is president.[6] While he describes his work as the output of "a plain vanilla researcher", Griffin also agrees with the Los Angeles Daily News characterizing him as "Crusader Rabbit".[7]

Griffin has been a member and officer of the conservative John Birch Society for much of his life[8][9] and a contributing editor to its magazine, The New American.[10] Since the 1960s, Griffin has spoken and written at length about the Society's theory of history involving "communist and capitalist conspiracies" over banking systems (including the Federal Reserve), American foreign policy, the U.S. Supreme Court, and the United Nations.[8][11][12] From 1962 to 1975, he completed nine books and seven film productions; his 1969 video lecture, More Deadly Than War: The Communist Revolution in America, was printed in English and Dutch. In 1974, he published World Without Cancer, and in 1975, he wrote a sympathetic biography of Society founder Robert W. Welch, which was well received by members of the organization.[13][14] Six of his documentaries from the early period were re-released in 2001 as Hidden Agenda: Real Conspiracies that Affect our Lives Today.

131 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:51:34pm

re: #130 Gus 802

In 2002, Griffin founded Freedom Force International, a libertarian activist network,[6][53] whose members value individual freedom above government power. The organization's position that the exclusive role of government is to protect people's rights and property, not to provide services like welfare, reflects Griffin's view that collectivism and freedom "are mortal enemies." One of the organization's stated goals is to elect people with such views to government offices and onto the boards of nonprofit organizations—true to its motto, "Don't fight city hall when you can BE city hall."[54]

In 2006, Griffin was interviewed for the documentary film America: Freedom to Fascism.[55] He endorsed Ron Paul for U.S. president in the 2008 election.[6]

132 jaunte  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:52:17pm

re: #131 Gus 802
It's a socialist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids while engaging in foreign entanglements, Mandrake!

133 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:53:00pm

re: #70 negativ

The tenacity of the debunkers at the praiseworthy JREF is either highly admirable, or borderline pathological.
[Link: forums.randi.org...]
My patience ran out circa 2007.

Arrrgggh, why did I go and read that Holocaust Denial thread where they are explaining "what really happened" to the 3.3 million Jews who lived in Poland before 1938 and disappeared after 1945.

Now I want to gouge my eyes out with a rusty spatula.

134 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:53:19pm

re: #132 jaunte

It's a socialist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids while engaging in foreign entanglements, Mandrake!

lol Did you read his Wiki?

The "Mandrake mechanism"

The Mandrake mechanism is a term coined by Griffin in this book. Mandrake the Magician was a comic strip character from the 1940s. He had the ability to magically create things and, when appropriate, make them disappear.[44] Griffin's view is similar to many other gold-standard supporters' critique of the fractional reserve banking system and the Federal Reserve in particular: that it makes money "magically" appear from nothing.

135 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:53:34pm

re: #131 Gus 802

This crap just keeps circling back to the zombie JBS. Amazing what happens when crazy aligns with megabucks.

136 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:54:47pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

This crap just keeps circling back to the zombie JBS. Amazing what happens when crazy aligns with megabucks.

Yeah, and don't worry about the JBS being a part of the Tea Party/GOP/Republican Party/CPAC stew.

//

137 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:55:03pm

Somebody deserves a million dollars. Or an award.

Youtube Video
138 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:56:12pm

re: #136 Gus 802

Yeah, and don't worry about the JBS being a part of the Tea Party/GOP/Republican Party/CPAC stew.

//

I thought the Rally to Restore Sanity would be a lark. It's starting to look like a sacred mission.

139 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:56:31pm

re: #133 Alouette

Arrrgggh, why did I go and read that Holocaust Denial thread where they are explaining "what really happened" to the 3.3 million Jews who lived in Poland before 1938 and disappeared after 1945.

Now I want to gouge my eyes out with a rusty spatula.

I don't think I could last more than one comment.

Some kinds of idiocy make little flames shoot out my ears.

140 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:56:45pm

re: #112 b_sharp

OK, let's try this on a thread with people.

Hola, Babes and babettes Or should that be Dudes and Dudettes?

Anyway, what fun and games have I missed today?

Having a rough day, are you? Trying to find out where the people are?
LOL. I saw you post this downstairs.

141 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 7:57:49pm

re: #112 b_sharp

OK, let's try this on a thread with people.

Hola, Babes and babettes Or should that be Dudes and Dudettes?

Anyway, what fun and games have I missed today?

I got the privilege of spending 3 hours sitting on hard metal in the wind and rain so I could watch my daughter not drop her rifle.

(That's a color guard spinning rifle.)

142 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:00:30pm

re: #139 EmmmieG

I don't think I could last more than one comment.

Some kinds of idiocy make little flames shoot out my ears.

These are the same fucktards who will tell you that Barbara Olson and the other passengers on Flight 77 are being held prisoner at some seekrit prison in the Czech Republic. (I actually heard some caller to Hannity say this.)

143 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:00:30pm

The winner of the latest post on the internet about chemtrails goes to, The PPJ Gazette. Blog roll please...

* A Nation Beguiled
* Citizens/American Constitution
* Farm Wars
* Free Documentary Films
* Global Research
* GRAIN.org
* Laguna Journal
* Liberty News Online
* Mark Dankof
* NARLO/PROPERTY RIGHTS
* National Organization/Raw Materials
* OATHKEEPERS
* One Stop Survival Guide
* Perma-culture Politics
* Spktruth2power
* Surviving the Middle Class Crash
* The Free Zone
* The Horses Heart
* The MEAT TRADE Daily News
* Top Documentary Films
* Transition Indiana blog
* Washington Watch

144 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:01:50pm

Where's Stanley Sea?

145 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:02:28pm

re: #142 Alouette

These are the same fucktards who will tell you that Barbara Olson and the other passengers on Flight 77 are being held prisoner at some seekrit prison in the Czech Republic. (I actually heard some caller to Hannity say this.)

The only way to make 3.3 million go away without a trace is to murder them.

(Of course, there was a trace, which was proven at Nuremberg.)

But then, you and I could sit here and agree that they--the deniers-- are vile stinking morons all day.

146 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:03:04pm

re: #144 reine.de.tout

Where's Stanley Sea?

Though I guess it would be unseemly and unladylike to gloat . . .

147 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:03:11pm

More kookiness.

“What in the World are They Spraying?”!!11ty

By now everyone has seen crisscrossing streaks of white clouds trailing behind jet aircraft, stretching from horizon to horizon, eventually turning the sky into a murky haze. Our innate intelligence tells us these are not mere vapor trails from jet engines, but no one yet has probed the questions: who is doing this and why. With the release of this video, all of that has changed. Here is the story of a rapidly developing industry called geo-engineering, driven by scientists, corporations, and governments intent on changing global climate, controlling the weather, and altering the chemical composition of soil and water — all supposedly for the betterment of mankind. Although officials insist that these programs are only in the discussion phase, evidence is abundant that they have been underway since about 1990 — and the effect has been devastating to crops, wildlife, and human health. We are being sprayed with toxic substances without our consent and, to add insult to injury, they are lying to us about it. Do not watch this documentary if you have high blood pressure.

148 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:04:32pm

re: #142 Alouette

These are the same fucktards who will tell you that Barbara Olson and the other passengers on Flight 77 are being held prisoner at some seekrit prison in the Czech Republic. (I actually heard some caller to Hannity say this.)

Personally, I'm surprised no one has made any Michael Jackson sightings.

149 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:05:05pm

That's right folks. Every night they take the airliners to a secret location at your local airport to load it up with chemicals. Either that or it's mixed in at the jet fuel refinery.

What in the world are these people thinking?

150 Stanghazi  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:06:05pm

re: #146 reine.de.tout

Though I guess it would be unseemly and unladylike to gloat . . .

DYING. just dying here.

Cheers to you.

I'm a drinking my despair away.

151 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:07:02pm

re: #147 Gus 802

More kookiness.

“What in the World are They Spraying?”!!11ty

You don't even need a jet. The decatur Deb left contrails.

[Link: www.mikeennis.com...]

152 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:07:05pm

re: #149 Gus 802

That's right folks. Every night they take the airliners to a secret location at your local airport to load it up with chemicals. Either that or it's mixed in at the jet fuel refinery.

What in the world are these people thinking?

They suffer from a hate of authority and a need to feel they have special knowledge setting them apart from the general rut of humanity. All their Bad Craziness flows from those two traits.

153 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:07:10pm

re: #149 Gus 802

That's right folks. Every night they take the airliners to a secret location at your local airport to load it up with chemicals. Either that or it's mixed in at the jet fuel refinery.

What in the world are these people thinking?

Especially frolicking in the sunshine. Shouldn't they be in a bomb shelter somewhere?

154 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:07:11pm

re: #148 marjoriemoon

Personally, I'm surprised no one has made any Michael Jackson sightings.

Isn't he hanging out with Elvis?

155 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:07:37pm

re: #151 Decatur Deb

You don't even need a jet. The decatur Deb left contrails.

[Link: www.mikeennis.com...]

Nice.

156 jaunte  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:08:04pm

re: #149 Gus 802

It's all coming from a top secret FedEx terminal in Memphis; the planes leave every morning at 3:00 a.m.

157 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:08:50pm

re: #156 jaunte

It's all coming from a top secret FedEx terminal in Memphis; the planes leave every morning at 3:00 a.m.

Spalding!

158 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:08:52pm

re: #150 Stanley Sea

DYING. just dying here.

Cheers to you.

I'm a drinking my despair away.

Daughter just said she has to stop watching LSU play, it's gonna give her high blood pressure & a heart attack!

159 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:10:38pm

They're even spreading chemical by ship exhaust!!11ty

Image: Oregon.A2003179.1925.250m.jpg

160 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:10:52pm

re: #149 Gus 802

That's right folks. Every night they take the airliners to a secret location at your local airport to load it up with chemicals. Either that or it's mixed in at the jet fuel refinery.

What in the world are these people thinking?

I don't see why this isn't plausible.

I mean did you know that the US government along with it's corporate masters have figured out how to create hurricanes? They're sending them to the US on purpose and have been doing so for around 10 years. It took them a bit to work out the kinks but they started getting it right after a few years. Hence we have events like Katrina.

/// I didn't make this up, a real person told me this.... o.0

161 freetoken  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:10:55pm

re: #154 Alouette

Isn't he hanging out with Elvis?

And JFK. I hear they're on a small island south of Cuba.

162 Max  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:12:12pm

Good evening Lizards! What's on the agenda for tonight?

163 freetoken  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:12:18pm

Anyone up for an Esther update?

164 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:12:25pm

re: #140 reine.de.tout

Having a rough day, are you? Trying to find out where the people are?
LOL. I saw you post this downstairs.

Yah, I got lost.

165 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:13:05pm

re: #141 EmmmieG

I got the privilege of spending 3 hours sitting on hard metal in the wind and rain so I could watch my daughter not drop her rifle.

(That's a color guard spinning rifle.)

You are a dedicated mother.

166 jaunte  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:15:24pm

re: #162 Max D. Reinhardt

We've gone from Glenn Beck being poisoned by Donald Rumsfeld ([Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...] to panic over chemtrails.

167 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:16:29pm

This is hilarious:

The Department of Energy did not speak with Cybercast News Service about the project, but scientists familiar with the line of research say it grows out of a proposal first articulated by Paul Crutzen, who won the 1995 Nobel Prize for his work discovering that there is a hole in the ozone over the Antarctic.

Crutzen proposed sending aircraft 747s to dump huge quantities of sulfur particles into the far-reaches of the stratosphere to cool down the atmosphere.

It's hilarious because a) it's from CNS news and b) a 747 cannot fly up to the "far-reaches of the stratosphere". At most it can cruise in the lower stratosphere.

168 Max  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:17:17pm

re: #166 jaunte

I'm one of these people that is addicted to Diet Coke (and Diet Pepsi, but that drink's raison d'être is to remind me how great Diet Coke tastes) so I am really screwed.

169 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:18:08pm

re: #165 b_sharp

You are a dedicated mother.

Dedicated was the parents who were there all day, moving the equipment and cooking food for 75 kids.

Dedicated is next weekend (don't expect to see me here) when I am going to be the chaperone parent sleeping on a middle school gym floor between the boys and girls.

I am considering going on facebook to see if I can't get as many names as possible as couples within the band (I know of two off the top of my head), so I know who to watch.

170 jaunte  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:19:02pm

re: #168 Max D. Reinhardt

"By Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Warvan, you shall be avenged!"

171 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:20:56pm

re: #167 Gus 802

This is hilarious:

It's hilarious because a) it's from CNS news and b) a 747 cannot fly up to the "far-reaches of the stratosphere". At most it can cruise in the lower stratosphere.

Can it even reach the tropopause?

172 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:21:25pm

re: #146 reine.de.tout

Though I guess it would be unseemly and unladylike to gloat . . .

I hate when I don't get it.

173 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:21:44pm

re: #170 jaunte

"By Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Warvan, you shall be avenged!"

Loved that movie.

174 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:22:33pm

re: #171 b_sharp

Can it even reach the tropopause?

Yes. Had to check. ;)

175 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:24:22pm

re: #170 jaunte

"By Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Warvan, you shall be avenged!"

This fine ship, this fine crew... Never give up... and never surrender!!

176 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:24:28pm

Well all the turkey and stuffing in my belly is making me sleepy. I love Thanksgiving. It's so yummy. Dinner was great, got to see some cousins and a little one (11 months) experience his first chocolate cake. It was hilarious.

So I think I'll head off and dream of the turkey and stuffing sandwiches I'm going to eat tomorrow.

177 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:25:04pm

re: #154 Alouette

Isn't he hanging out with Elvis?

Shhh... suspicious minds.

Youtube Video
178 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:25:59pm

'Nite, all.

179 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:26:42pm

Reine, see the game?

180 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:27:17pm

re: #121 Varek Raith

It's like the sprinkler woman...
:/

I like the sprinkler woman.

181 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:28:01pm

Elvis's best post-death cameo was probably in Terry Pratchett's Good Omens.

182 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:28:07pm

re: #152 Dark_Falcon

They suffer from a hate of authority and a need to feel they have special knowledge setting them apart from the general rut of humanity. All their Bad Craziness flows from those two traits.

Most lefties are non-authoritarian, but conspiracy theorists have paranoia fed fears that are not limited to the left by any means. Many on the right are paranoid about government and have most recently transfered that to climate scientists.

183 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:28:20pm

re: #166 jaunte

We've gone from Glenn Beck being poisoned by Donald Rumsfeld ([Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...] to panic over chemtrails.

Obviously you haven't seen this one.

184 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:28:37pm

re: #133 Alouette

Arrrgggh, why did I go and read that Holocaust Denial thread where they are explaining "what really happened" to the 3.3 million Jews who lived in Poland before 1938 and disappeared after 1945.

Now I want to gouge my eyes out with a rusty spatula.

Did they go into outer space to colonize new Polish-speaking worlds and found new civilizations?

//Don't gouge your eyes out, Alouette, they'd be too happy about that.

185 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:29:25pm

re: #184 SanFranciscoZionist

Did they go into outer space to colonize new Polish-speaking worlds and found new civilizations?

//Don't gouge your eyes out, Alouette, they'd be too happy about that.

Yeah, because it isn't enough to be the Zionist Overlords of this world. When we get to Mars, they'll be waiting to be the Zionist Overlords there, too.

186 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:29:37pm

BTW, my adventure into insanity this evening started from a search into Ron Paul's tea party speech....
Virginia Tea Party Patriots Convention: Ron Paul at Home

The other fresh part of Paul's speech, the part no one else is trying here: Lecturing a skeptical crowd about the drug war and the war in Afghanistan. This is nothing new for Paul. It's what endeared him to a new coalition of young voters and old libertarians in 2008. It's also a sign that Paul is still considering a 2012 presidential run. He likes to win arguments; it's a new feeling. The impeding victory of his son in Kentucky's Senate race will prove that he's still winning.


Seems small potatoes now. But If you can dig up video of the speech then good for you. thutherism is now mainstreamed, opposition to the war in Afghanistan is mainstreamed, support for Israel will be plummeting soon on the right. It's all part of the package,.

187 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:30:07pm

re: #174 Gus 802

Yes. Had to check. ;)

That was really an unfair question because the tropopause is about 6 miles up over Canada, but closer to 11 over the equator. Sorry I should have been more specific.

188 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:30:56pm

re: #176 Jadespring

Well all the turkey and stuffing in my belly is making me sleepy. I love Thanksgiving. It's so yummy. Dinner was great, got to see some cousins and a little one (11 months) experience his first chocolate cake. It was hilarious.

So I think I'll head off and dream of the turkey and stuffing sandwiches I'm going to eat tomorrow.

Didn't you kind of jump the gun? Thanksgiving isn't until Monday.

189 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:31:34pm

re: #168 Max D. Reinhardt

I'm one of these people that is addicted to Diet Coke (and Diet Pepsi, but that drink's raison d'être is to remind me how great Diet Coke tastes) so I am really screwed.

I like Diet Pepsi better than Diet Coke, actually.

190 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:32:10pm

re: #142 Alouette

These are the same fucktards who will tell you that Barbara Olson and the other passengers on Flight 77 are being held prisoner at some seekrit prison in the Czech Republic. (I actually heard some caller to Hannity say this.)

What did Hannity say back?

And, I'm going to regret asking this, but why would they be held prisoner? I mean, clearly, no one can know the govt. is covering up their faking of 9/11, (except random nuts calling in to Hannity, of course), but why not just shoot them all and dump the bodies at sea?

191 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:32:21pm

re: #180 SanFranciscoZionist

I like the sprinkler woman.

Is that the one mesmerized by the rainbow colours in the water coming from her sprinkler?

I laughed my ass off when I watched that.

192 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:33:02pm

re: #188 b_sharp

Didn't you kind of jump the gun? Thanksgiving isn't until Monday.

She said last night they did it early to have the whole family together. Some had to drive in.

193 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:33:54pm

re: #181 EmmmieG

Elvis's best post-death cameo was probably in Terry Pratchett's Good Omens.

I have to say, I prefer Bubba-ho-tep.

194 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:34:29pm

re: #184 SanFranciscoZionist

Did they go into outer space to colonize new Polish-speaking worlds and found new civilizations?

//Don't gouge your eyes out, Alouette, they'd be too happy about that.

How about if I gouge out their eyes?

195 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:35:35pm

re: #188 b_sharp

Didn't you kind of jump the gun? Thanksgiving isn't until Monday.

God, you people are weird.

/

196 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:36:30pm

re: #195 SanFranciscoZionist

God, you people are weird.

/

You should see their money!!

197 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:36:32pm

re: #192 Cannadian Club Akbar

She said last night they did it early to have the whole family together. Some had to drive in.

We're having it tomorrow because my daughter has to work Monday, so I understand the situation.

I get to play with my 4 year old nephew. He's a gas to play with.

198 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:36:39pm

re: #191 b_sharp

Is that the one mesmerized by the rainbow colours in the water coming from her sprinkler?

I laughed my ass off when I watched that.

Yes. She insists that the sprinkler rainbows never used to happen, so what the heck is in the ground and water now that's causing this?

199 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:37:00pm

re: #194 Alouette

How about if I gouge out their eyes?

I'm for it.

200 jaunte  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:37:12pm

re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist

I have to say, I prefer Bubba-ho-tep.


Bruce Campbell looked a little like Stephen Colbert's brother back then:
[Link: www.imdb.com...]

201 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:37:28pm

re: #195 SanFranciscoZionist

God, you people are weird.

/

LOL
Are you just noticing that?

202 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:38:37pm

re: #196 Cannadian Club Akbar

You should see their money!!

Much more colourful than your's isn't it?

It will soon be made out of plastic like the Aussie money.

203 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:38:44pm

re: #187 b_sharp

That was really an unfair question because the tropopause is about 6 miles up over Canada, but closer to 11 over the equator. Sorry I should have been more specific.

Saw that.

204 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:38:45pm

re: #190 SanFranciscoZionist

What did Hannity say back?

And, I'm going to regret asking this, but why would they be held prisoner? I mean, clearly, no one can know the govt. is covering up their faking of 9/11, (except random nuts calling in to Hannity, of course), but why not just shoot them all and dump the bodies at sea?

I made a mistake. I didn't hear this on the Hannity show, it was Medved, about five years ago. Medved gets more nutbags on his show than Hannity. Some troofer nut claimed that no airplane hit the Pentagon. Medved kept asking him "Where's Barbara Olson" and the nutbag came up with this complete lame excuse. I don't remember what Medved said.

I no longer listen to any of these shows. My car's sound system is busted, and if I ever do get it fixed I will listen to....music.

205 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:39:44pm

re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes. She insists that the sprinkler rainbows never used to happen, so what the heck is in the ground and water now that's causing this?

I have to presume they ruled out leprechauns. Because if you don't do that first, well... it's just ridiculous to move on.

206 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:39:45pm

re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes. She insists that the sprinkler rainbows never used to happen, so what the heck is in the ground and water now that's causing this?

To borrow a phrase from one of my favourite movies, UHF - she's so stupid.

207 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:39:46pm

re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes. She insists that the sprinkler rainbows never used to happen, so what the heck is in the ground and water now that's causing this?

Yeah, those laws of physics, always changing.
//

208 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:40:19pm

re: #196 Cannadian Club Akbar

You should see their money!!

"They may be pink, but their money is green." -- J.R. "Bob" Dobbs

209 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:42:02pm

re: #205 marjoriemoon

I have to presume they ruled out leprechauns. Because if you don't do that first, well... it's just ridiculous to move on.

You said it much better than I would have, had I dared say something that funny.

210 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:43:09pm

re: #209 b_sharp

You said it much better than I would have, had I dared say something that funny.

lol I wholeheartedly agree with your take on the subject :)

211 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:43:54pm

bbl

212 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:44:10pm

re: #202 b_sharp

Much more colourful than your's isn't it?

It will soon be made out of plastic like the Aussie money.

U.S. money is terribly boring. It's also inconvenient as hell for the blind.

213 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:45:19pm

SFZ, I hope I'm not prying, or putting my rather substantial nose where it isn't wanted, but how are you feeling tonight?

214 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:45:28pm

re: #188 b_sharp

Didn't you kind of jump the gun? Thanksgiving isn't until Monday.

That's downright un-American.

/

215 freetoken  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:45:58pm

re: #212 SanFranciscoZionist

U.S. money is terribly boring. It's also inconvenient as hell for the blind.

Wish we'd just go electronic, forget the paper and coins (except for memorials.)

216 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:47:10pm

re: #215 freetoken

Wish we'd just go electronic, forget the paper and coins (except for memorials.)

I can't agree with that. I like cash for the obvious reasons. Not all the time mind you but I like the flexibility it provides.

217 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:47:39pm

re: #214 Gus 802

That's downright un-American.

/

Yah, thank dog.

Much of Canadian identity can be summed up quite simply - we're not American.

Actually we're becoming more like you Yanks and less like the Brits every year.

218 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:47:39pm

re: #216 Gus 802

I can't agree with that. I like cash for the obvious reasons. Not all the time mind you but I like the flexibility it provides.

And add the freedom cash provides.

219 freetoken  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:48:15pm

re: #216 Gus 802

I can't agree with that. I like cash for the obvious reasons. Not all the time mind you but I like the flexibility it provides.

You'll just have to pay the lap-dancers some other way... :-O

220 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:48:23pm

re: #216 Gus 802

I can't agree with that. I like cash for the obvious reasons. Not all the time mind you but I like the flexibility it provides.

Sometimes you just need to hand someone cash, someone who doesn't have electronic transferring ability. (Babysitters, for example.)

221 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:48:29pm

re: #216 Gus 802

I can't agree with that. I like cash for the obvious reasons. Not all the time mind you but I like the flexibility it provides.

Cash is great for keeping your pants from crawling up.

222 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:48:37pm

re: #213 b_sharp

SFZ, I hope I'm not prying, or putting my rather substantial nose where it isn't wanted, but how are you feeling tonight?

No prob, thanks for asking. Still pretty shaky and weepy, but planning to call Kaiser tomorrow and talk to someone about getting some backup.

I slept most of today, dreamed a lot, then got up and checked my teacher blog, where people were responding to my rant about my day with stuff like, "Why aren't you calling the parents? They will start to talk about you if their children say the class is out of control" and "Have you thought about having an assignment notebook?"

And started bawling again. I love ProTeacher, but sometimes they are not the help you need.

223 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:49:09pm

re: #221 b_sharp

Cash is great for keeping your pants from crawling up.

It also drive the collection agencies up the wall. Not that I'm there. Yet. Still, screw 'em.

224 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:50:51pm

re: #222 SanFranciscoZionist

No prob, thanks for asking. Still pretty shaky and weepy, but planning to call Kaiser tomorrow and talk to someone about getting some backup.

I slept most of today, dreamed a lot, then got up and checked my teacher blog, where people were responding to my rant about my day with stuff like, "Why aren't you calling the parents? They will start to talk about you if their children say the class is out of control" and "Have you thought about having an assignment notebook?"

And started bawling again. I love ProTeacher, but sometimes they are not the help you need.

(One good thing about having a homeschooling club is that the parents know exactly how difficult their children are to teach.)

Don't let them get you down.

225 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:54:40pm

re: #222 SanFranciscoZionist

No prob, thanks for asking. Still pretty shaky and weepy, but planning to call Kaiser tomorrow and talk to someone about getting some backup.

I slept most of today, dreamed a lot, then got up and checked my teacher blog, where people were responding to my rant about my day with stuff like, "Why aren't you calling the parents? They will start to talk about you if their children say the class is out of control" and "Have you thought about having an assignment notebook?"

And started bawling again. I love ProTeacher, but sometimes they are not the help you need.

I'd come over so we could talk, but I'm not sure I could walk that far in less than a year.

I'll just give you another virtual hug {{SFZ}}

I started taking my meds first thing in the morning about 6 weeks ago and since then I've had some pretty intense and weird dreams just before I wake up as the meds wear off. I kind of enjoy them.

This morning I dreamt of a house full of ghosts, including one nasty serial killer's ghost that I had to beat the crap out of.

226 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:57:20pm

re: #223 Gus 802

It also drive the collection agencies up the wall. Not that I'm there. Yet. Still, screw 'em.

I had collection agencies after me for years because of my student loans. I wrote a database (named Apollo after a guard dog) for one collection company and paid the loans off.

227 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:59:07pm

re: #222 SanFranciscoZionist

No prob, thanks for asking. Still pretty shaky and weepy, but planning to call Kaiser tomorrow and talk to someone about getting some backup.

I slept most of today, dreamed a lot, then got up and checked my teacher blog, where people were responding to my rant about my day with stuff like, "Why aren't you calling the parents? They will start to talk about you if their children say the class is out of control" and "Have you thought about having an assignment notebook?"

And started bawling again. I love ProTeacher, but sometimes they are not the help you need.

Both last year and this I had (one in science the other in the Rev. War class,) a 10 year old boy in a 15 year old boy's body.

And one of those boys was not only biologically 15, it was a big 15, and he had a black belt.

Good thing he liked me.

The other one's mother told me they spent 3 hours a day on "neurological development" just for him.

228 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:59:51pm

re: #225 b_sharp

I dreamed the earth was giving away as I was driving my van around a mountain. Then my van got stuck in the shale and I had to climb down with a rope. : )

229 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:00:31pm

re: #222 SanFranciscoZionist

re: #225 b_sharp

In most cases, a smile and hug is what folks need more than real advice. It's more about listening and acknowledging. {{{SFZ}}}

230 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:01:37pm

re: #222 SanFranciscoZionist

{{SFZ}}
Remember you are starting a monumental journey. Also, 6th graders often deserve a raised voice.

231 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:02:48pm

Really, if these guys weren't so damn noisy, they'd be OK. They talk all the time, though directions, after I have asked them to be quiet, when it's silent reading time, when I'm lecturing, when other students are talking, probably also in their sleep...

And it's the nice little girls who do this too, and they blame the whole thing on the bad little boys--but can't seem to understand that I could actually DEAL with the bad little boys if it wasn't for the whole class providing them with ground cover by constant chatter.

232 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:02:57pm

re: #228 prairiefire

I dreamed the earth was giving away as I was driving my van around a mountain. Then my van got stuck in the shale and I had to climb down with a rope. : )

I got so sick of having a house full of ghosts, I went to the ghost realm's version of New Zealand and launched a ghost nuclear missile at my house. It wiped out all the ghosts for miles around but left my house without a scratch.

Weird but entertaining.

233 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:04:11pm

re: #232 b_sharp

I got so sick of having a house full of ghosts, I went to the ghost realm's version of New Zealand and launched a ghost nuclear missile at my house. It wiped out all the ghosts for miles around but left my house without a scratch.

Weird but entertaining.

Never forget--Stephenie Meyer leveraged a dream into millions of dollars worth of teenage movie and book.

234 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:04:11pm

re: #231 SanFranciscoZionist

Really, if these guys weren't so damn noisy, they'd be OK. They talk all the time, though directions, after I have asked them to be quiet, when it's silent reading time, when I'm lecturing, when other students are talking, probably also in their sleep...

And it's the nice little girls who do this too, and they blame the whole thing on the bad little boys--but can't seem to understand that I could actually DEAL with the bad little boys if it wasn't for the whole class providing them with ground cover by constant chatter.

Time for a referee's whistle?

235 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:05:57pm

re: #234 b_sharp

Time for a referee's whistle?

The only thing they react to is a LOUD ANGRY voice. I mean LOUD. I don't DO loud very well, but I told them on Friday that if that voice was the only way to teach them, I'd do it. I told them I didn't like the woman with that voice much, she was abrasive and not very respectful of her students, but if they would listen to her, that was how it would be.

They probably went home and told their parents I have a split personality.

236 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:06:06pm

re: #233 EmmmieG

Never forget--Stephenie Meyer leveraged a dream into millions of dollars worth of teenage movie and book.

Yah?

I never remember my dreams for long enough to write them down. This morning was a bit odd because I did remember the whole thing.

237 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:06:35pm

White flight led to the abandonment of cities by more affluent whites into the suburbs. There they will remain. Now, there is a new influx of affluent whites in the form of gentrification of our cities. Soon, the students, lower and middle classes and people of color will have nowhere to live.

238 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:07:16pm

re: #236 b_sharp

Yah?

I never remember my dreams for long enough to write them down. This morning was a bit odd because I did remember the whole thing.

I've got a ghost story I'm going to write someday from one of my dreams.

239 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:07:17pm

re: #231 SanFranciscoZionist

Their brains are starting to overheat due to adolescence.

240 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:07:52pm

Rally against Gentrification

Youtube Video
241 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:08:18pm

re: #235 SanFranciscoZionist

The only thing they react to is a LOUD ANGRY voice. I mean LOUD. I don't DO loud very well, but I told them on Friday that if that voice was the only way to teach them, I'd do it. I told them I didn't like the woman with that voice much, she was abrasive and not very respectful of her students, but if they would listen to her, that was how it would be.

They probably went home and told their parents I have a split personality.

Probably.

Just remember that you're trying to cope with changing brain chemistry and it will level off somewhat within the next half dozen weeks or so.

242 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:08:34pm

re: #172 negativ

I hate when I don't get it.

LSU and Fla played tonight.

In a most exciting game, LSU won.
Stanley Sea is a Fla fan.
I'm an LSU fan.

243 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:09:47pm

re: #179 Cannadian Club Akbar

Reine, see the game?

Most of it.
:-)

244 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:09:59pm

re: #235 SanFranciscoZionist

The only thing they react to is a LOUD ANGRY voice. I mean LOUD. I don't DO loud very well, but I told them on Friday that if that voice was the only way to teach them, I'd do it. I told them I didn't like the woman with that voice much, she was abrasive and not very respectful of her students, but if they would listen to her, that was how it would be.

They probably went home and told their parents I have a split personality.

The French teacher was gone all last year--cancer treatment. She had a permanent sub, and my daughter would tell me how disrespectful classes would be to him.

Now this year, they're behind, and I think the parents and the teacher think it's his fault.

Should I tell the permanent teacher what was really going on? I could, but I don't want to get my daughter involved.

245 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:10:14pm

re: #238 EmmmieG

I've got a ghost story I'm going to write someday from one of my dreams.

Cool.

When you do, publish a teaser here for us to read.

246 freetoken  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:11:06pm

re: #237 Gus 802

There is to come, I propose, a great day of reckoning in America over the belief system we've built around of "real estate".

Namely, that where we live really ought to be about where we live, and not about it as an "investment".

Assuming we are not on the precipice of some great deflationary spiral (as predicted by some doomers/economists), inflation will bite hard into the wallets of many Americans in a few years. Housing will be awkward for many, being priced out of the reach.

247 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:13:04pm

re: #246 freetoken

There is to come, I propose, a great day of reckoning in America over the belief system we've built around of "real estate".

Namely, that where we live really ought to be about where we live, and not about it as an "investment".

Assuming we are not on the precipice of some great deflationary spiral (as predicted by some doomers/economists), inflation will bite hard into the wallets of many Americans in a few years. Housing will be awkward for many, being priced out of the reach.

On the same subject, but a more minor version, it used to bug me when salesman pushed engagement diamonds as "investments."

An investment is something you sell. Try "heirloom," maybe but you're just establishing that someone in your family won't have to buy a diamond when they get married, but after you're dead.

248 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:14:21pm

re: #246 freetoken

There is to come, I propose, a great day of reckoning in America over the belief system we've built around of "real estate".

Namely, that where we live really ought to be about where we live, and not about it as an "investment".

Assuming we are not on the precipice of some great deflationary spiral (as predicted by some doomers/economists), inflation will bite hard into the wallets of many Americans in a few years. Housing will be awkward for many, being priced out of the reach.

True. That's one of my biggest fears once the economy start moving again. I'm pretty sure that rents are going to hit the roof and start climbing yearly.

This one of the things I really admired about my building owners. They've never sold a building to a speculator. That was the founders standard. They've created investors for buildings but none have been sold to convert into condos. This was even true during the last boom years.

249 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:15:14pm

re: #244 EmmmieG

The French teacher was gone all last year--cancer treatment. She had a permanent sub, and my daughter would tell me how disrespectful classes would be to him.

Now this year, they're behind, and I think the parents and the teacher think it's his fault.

Should I tell the permanent teacher what was really going on? I could, but I don't want to get my daughter involved.

I'd see if there's a discreet way to explain that there were some behavior issues.

250 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:15:24pm

re: #248 Gus 802

True. That's one of my biggest fears once the economy start moving again. I'm pretty sure that rents are going to hit the roof and start climbing yearly.

This one of the things I really admired about my building owners. They've never sold a building to a speculator. That was the founders standard. They've created investorsThey formed investment partnerships for buildings but none have been sold to convert into condos. This was even true during the last boom years.

A little more accurate.

251 freetoken  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:16:12pm

re: #247 EmmmieG

Yup, that's one of the sales-methods popular today - call something an "investment."

They even do it with digital cameras (go look at an online digicam forum) - calling a rapidly depreciating asset an "investment" is certainly a sign that Orwell was right.

252 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:16:31pm

re: #244 EmmmieG

The French teacher was gone all last year--cancer treatment. She had a permanent sub, and my daughter would tell me how disrespectful classes would be to him.

Now this year, they're behind, and I think the parents and the teacher think it's his fault.

Should I tell the permanent teacher what was really going on? I could, but I don't want to get my daughter involved.

I'd say do it, but make sure the teacher can keep a secret. The teacher really does need to know what went wrong and plan accordingly.

253 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:17:17pm

re: #249 SanFranciscoZionist

I'd see if there's a discreet way to explain that there were some behavior issues.

Possibly mention something at the parent-teacher conferences on Thursday.

The way they do them, they set up tables in the gym, and you go from teacher to teacher getting grade reports.

I always enjoy seeing the head of the science department trying to simultaneously be at his desk and visit his daughter's teachers.

Gives one confidence in the school. Also, she's a really nice girl.

254 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:18:08pm

Quiet Riot - Cum On Feel The Noize

Youtube Video

My new cheapo headphones suck.

255 freetoken  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:18:25pm

re: #248 Gus 802

There was so much over construction in the US that the real estate is currently market deeply depressed. Renting out the empty houses is a possibility and that should keep rents in many places in check for a year or two. After that - look out.

256 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:18:41pm

re: #251 freetoken

Yup, that's one of the sales-methods popular today - call something an "investment."

They even do it with digital cameras (go look at an online digicam forum) - calling a rapidly depreciating asset an "investment" is certainly a sign that Orwell was right.

Life insurance!

/

257 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:20:24pm

re: #256 Gus 802

Life insurance!

/

No, that wasn't the one that set my hair on fire. Life insurance for children. Only--they sell it as if it's for the child.

????????

It's to make sure that if something happens to your child, you will have enough for a burial to soothe your broken heart, if such were possible.

258 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:21:39pm

re: #247 EmmmieG

On the same subject, but a more minor version, it used to bug me when salesman pushed engagement diamonds as "investments."

An investment is something you sell. Try "heirloom," maybe but you're just establishing that someone in your family won't have to buy a diamond when they get married, but after you're dead.

When I got married we were broke (we're still broke, of course), and we didn't buy an engagement ring. I just wear my wedding band. I commented to my friends in passing that maybe for our tenth anniversary or something, if times are better, maybe I'll buy myself a diamond in a matching setting, just because.

One of said friends then offered me her engagement ring from her ex. It's an heirloom. Apparently when they divorced, he asked his new fiancee if she wanted it, and she said no, reasonably enough after his first wife had had it for eight years. So he left it with my friend, who didn't want to sell it because, heck, it was her ex-husband's grandma's.

I told her that while I appreciated her generosity, I really didn't think I should have it either. Luckily, the conversation got her thinking, and she called her ex-brother-in-law, and asked if he wanted it, and he had it reset in a man's ring as a gift for his long-time boyfriend. Everything worked out, it's still in the family, and the brother-in-law and his sweetie are thinking of adopting, so it could be handed down yet.

These things are so damn complicated!

259 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:21:59pm

Jeff Hart, miner from Colorado, becomes hero in Chile:[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

260 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:22:52pm

re: #253 EmmmieG

Possibly mention something at the parent-teacher conferences on Thursday.

The way they do them, they set up tables in the gym, and you go from teacher to teacher getting grade reports.

I always enjoy seeing the head of the science department trying to simultaneously be at his desk and visit his daughter's teachers.

Gives one confidence in the school. Also, she's a really nice girl.

We used to do that at the high school. I sat near the hardest junior English teacher in the school, and there would be a line out the door, of parents waiting to talk to him.

261 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:22:53pm

re: #255 freetoken

There was so much over construction in the US that the real estate is currently market deeply depressed. Renting out the empty houses is a possibility and that should keep rents in many places in check for a year or two. After that - look out.

The twist to that is down zoning. They down zoned Denver which means no more high density housing. It was hard enough before and now it will be even harder. The days of building a moderate apartment building in a city which you can rent out for even 750 a month for 1 BR are long gone. What happens is investors then try to maximize the profit by designing it and marketing it as luxury apartments. There is no requirement for affordable house in rental units. Only with condos. Even then what they call affordable is high.

262 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:24:01pm

re: #258 SanFranciscoZionist

When I got married we were broke (we're still broke, of course), and we didn't buy an engagement ring. I just wear my wedding band. I commented to my friends in passing that maybe for our tenth anniversary or something, if times are better, maybe I'll buy myself a diamond in a matching setting, just because.

One of said friends then offered me her engagement ring from her ex. It's an heirloom. Apparently when they divorced, he asked his new fiancee if she wanted it, and she said no, reasonably enough after his first wife had had it for eight years. So he left it with my friend, who didn't want to sell it because, heck, it was her ex-husband's grandma's.

I told her that while I appreciated her generosity, I really didn't think I should have it either. Luckily, the conversation got her thinking, and she called her ex-brother-in-law, and asked if he wanted it, and he had it reset in a man's ring as a gift for his long-time boyfriend. Everything worked out, it's still in the family, and the brother-in-law and his sweetie are thinking of adopting, so it could be handed down yet.

These things are so damn complicated!

My mother wears her grandmother's diamond which my father had re-set in a setting my mother preferred.

I wear a ruby just because I have a deep-seated psychological need to rebel against the norm.

(It's a good thing I grew up LDS in Washington, not Utah.)

263 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:24:29pm

re: #250 Gus 802

A little more accurate.

For decades Saskatchewan has been a really inexpensive place to live, the average house price for a 1000 sq ft bungalow was around $60,000. We started booming when oil hit $150.00/barrel and Potash hit new highs. Our average price is now $240,000. Rents went from

264 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:25:35pm

re: #257 EmmmieG

No, that wasn't the one that set my hair on fire. Life insurance for children. Only--they sell it as if it's for the child.

???

It's to make sure that if something happens to your child, you will have enough for a burial to soothe your broken heart, if such were possible.

Life insurance sales often rely on the fact that no one wants to think too hard about what they're buying. I once sat down with the HR lady at my new job, and she explained that you got X amount of life insurance with the benefits, but you could buy more.

I said, "I'm twenty-five, and single, no kids. If I walk under a bus tomorrow, my parents will need enough money for the funeral, and to pay off my credit cards. What you're offering is more than enough for that. If I get married, we'll talk."

She looked REALLY startled. And said something like, "Well, aren't you clear-minded."

265 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:27:26pm

re: #262 EmmmieG

My mother wears her grandmother's diamond which my father had re-set in a setting my mother preferred.

I wear a ruby just because I have a deep-seated psychological need to rebel against the norm.

(It's a good thing I grew up LDS in Washington, not Utah.)

My friend who got married last week, her new husband's family is Colombian. Her ring is set with a beautiful emerald.

At the wedding, I noticed that all the older ladies from his side of the family were wearing emerald earrings.

266 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:27:29pm

re: #263 b_sharp

For decades Saskatchewan has been a really inexpensive place to live, the average house price for a 1000 sq ft bungalow was around $60,000. We started booming when oil hit $150.00/barrel and Potash hit new highs. Our average price is now $240,000. Rents went from

OMG that's almost what happened in Denver. Around Washington Park cute little craftsman bungalows were selling for about 70K. In the blink of an eye they're now selling the LOT for 350K and calling it Wash Park. Mind you I did make some money on that boom. Still, my rates haven't really moved that much. I was also renting a little carriage house for 250 a month which I got approved over the phone because the guy "liked my voice". No more.

267 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:27:57pm

re: #258 SanFranciscoZionist

When I got married we were broke (we're still broke, of course), and we didn't buy an engagement ring. I just wear my wedding band. I commented to my friends in passing that maybe for our tenth anniversary or something, if times are better, maybe I'll buy myself a diamond in a matching setting, just because.

One of said friends then offered me her engagement ring from her ex. It's an heirloom. Apparently when they divorced, he asked his new fiancee if she wanted it, and she said no, reasonably enough after his first wife had had it for eight years. So he left it with my friend, who didn't want to sell it because, heck, it was her ex-husband's grandma's.

I told her that while I appreciated her generosity, I really didn't think I should have it either. Luckily, the conversation got her thinking, and she called her ex-brother-in-law, and asked if he wanted it, and he had it reset in a man's ring as a gift for his long-time boyfriend. Everything worked out, it's still in the family, and the brother-in-law and his sweetie are thinking of adopting, so it could be handed down yet.

These things are so damn complicated!

We humans are incredibly talented in making things as complex as possible, but we're also damn good at finding solutions to those complexities.

268 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:28:18pm

re: #262 EmmmieG

My mother wears her grandmother's diamond which my father had re-set in a setting my mother preferred.

I wear a ruby just because I have a deep-seated psychological need to rebel against the norm.

(It's a good thing I grew up LDS in Washington, not Utah.)

lol My engagement ring is a sapphire.

269 freetoken  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:28:51pm

re: #261 Gus 802

I've been coming to a conclusion about how we've designed our lives that is rather scary - we're returning to serfs and masters as a model of economics.

Sounds leftist... I know.

Yet here we see, in the commercial real estate market, exactly that. What you described has happened everywhere. In the San Diego region, where housing is higher than in many places, over the last few decades but especially since around the end of the last bubble we've seen large real estate holding/managing companies becoming the standard, and the small time land-lord slipping away. The large commercial companies only care about a % return/yr, and really don't have a connection to the property they own or the people who inhabit the property.

270 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:29:54pm

re: #263 b_sharp

For decades Saskatchewan has been a really inexpensive place to live, the average house price for a 1000 sq ft bungalow was around $60,000. We started booming when oil hit $150.00/barrel and Potash hit new highs. Our average price is now $240,000. Rents went from

Where did the rest of my post go?

271 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:30:19pm

re: #270 b_sharp

Where did the rest of my post go?

I noticed that too but I got the gist of it. ;)

272 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:30:22pm

re: #259 prairiefire

Jeff Hart, miner from Colorado, becomes hero in Chile:[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

That's a good story but Huffpo seems to be up to their usual tricks. They're pushing a story where Clinton's Secretary of Labor, Robert Reichm talks about the "SEEKRIT BIG MONEY TAKEOVER OF AMERICA!!1". For that sort of tomfoolery, the HUffPo wins tonight's "Outrageous Outrage!1" Award.

273 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:30:34pm

re: #270 b_sharp

Where did the rest of my post go?

I ate it. It was delicious.

274 What, me worry?  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:30:40pm

re: #270 b_sharp

Where did the rest of my post go?

Ghosts.

275 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:30:45pm

re: #265 SanFranciscoZionist

My friend who got married last week, her new husband's family is Colombian. Her ring is set with a beautiful emerald.

At the wedding, I noticed that all the older ladies from his side of the family were wearing emerald earrings.

It's 10-10-10 in 1/2 hour..Who wants to get married? This offer only last 24 hours..After that I'm waiting till 11-11-11.
/

276 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:31:10pm

re: #274 marjoriemoon

Ghosts Donald Rumsfeld.

FTFY

//

277 ClaudeMonet  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:31:13pm

re: #267 b_sharp

We humans are incredibly talented in making things as complex as possible, but we're also damn good at finding solutions to those complexities.

We also tend to glorify those who work themselves out of jams they created themselves, while ignoring those who manage to not get into jams in the first place.

278 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:32:25pm

re: #271 Gus 802

I noticed that too but I got the gist of it. ;)

Damn ghost in the machine I'll bet.

279 ClaudeMonet  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:32:58pm

re: #275 HoosierHoops

It's 10-10-10 in 1/2 hour..Who wants to get married? This offer only last 24 hours..After that I'm waiting till 11-11-11.
/

My then-girlfriend and I celebrated 6-06-06 quite memorably. Well, what we each remembered of it.

280 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:33:06pm

re: #273 EmmmieG

I ate it. It was delicious.

Not too much salt I hope? ;P

281 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:33:30pm

re: #274 marjoriemoon

Ghosts.

GMTA.

282 ClaudeMonet  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:33:43pm

re: #270 b_sharp

Where did the rest of my post go?

Damned libruls took it as tax.

283 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:34:22pm

re: #275 HoosierHoops

It's 10-10-10 in 1/2 hour..Who wants to get married? This offer only last 24 hours..After that I'm waiting till 11-11-11.
/

Dude, you just got married.

You can't hog all the women you know.

284 Gus  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:35:24pm

re: #269 freetoken

I've been coming to a conclusion about how we've designed our lives that is rather scary - we're returning to serfs and masters as a model of economics.

Sounds leftist... I know.

Yet here we see, in the commercial real estate market, exactly that. What you described has happened everywhere. In the San Diego region, where housing is higher than in many places, over the last few decades but especially since around the end of the last bubble we've seen large real estate holding/managing companies becoming the standard, and the small time land-lord slipping away. The large commercial companies only care about a % return/yr, and really don't have a connection to the property they own or the people who inhabit the property.

To some it may sound leftist but egalitarianism isn't a leftist concept. Fairness, an equitable playing field. It is a fact that we have strayed far from even respecting the idea of fairness. Too many people have become complacent in accepting a status quo that doesn't even work for them but are afraid to speak up because they want to be part of the group.

285 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:35:26pm

re: #275 HoosierHoops

It's 10-10-10 in 1/2 hour..Who wants to get married? This offer only last 24 hours..After that I'm waiting till 11-11-11.
/

My neighbor got married today.

For this reason.

286 freetoken  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 10:06:14pm

re: #284 Gus 802

Speaking of real estate, the day of reckoning is quickly approaching:


Momentum builds for full moratorium on foreclosures

287 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 10:24:43pm

re: #146 reine.de.tout

Though I guess it would be unseemly and unladylike to gloat . . .

LOL!
Reine said gloat!

288 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 10:32:45pm

re: #231 SanFranciscoZionist

(((SFV)))
I wish the hug could be bigger!

289 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Oct 9, 2010 10:39:23pm

re: #275 HoosierHoops

It's 10-10-10 in 1/2 hour..Who wants to get married? This offer only last 24 hours..After that I'm waiting till 11-11-11.
/

LOL!
*waves*
I'd personally prefer 11-11-11
But isn't a date a stupid reason to get married?


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