1 ozbloke  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 4:24:06pm

Foodies make good music.

2 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 4:29:48pm

Trippy.

3 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 4:32:35pm

Related art: Carl Warner's Foodscapes

British photographer Carl Warner creates amazing foodscapes: landscapes constructed entirely from fruits and vegetables, cheeses, breads, fish, meat and grains. At first glance the landscapes look real, and it is only on second glance that the viewer realises that the scenes are made entirely out of food. A book of his work, entitled Carl Warner's Food Landscapes, is published by Abrams and is available at all good book stores and via Amazon

4 brookly red  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 4:42:14pm

Arrrguh! zedo ads!!! Damnit!

5 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 4:43:44pm

re: #4 brookly red

Arrrguh! zedo ads!!! Damnit!

Why do you think I subscribed! Zedo ads are teh wurk ub teh debbil

6 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 4:48:06pm

re: #1 ozbloke

Foodies make good music.

although i'm no hungrier after having watched it than i was before...

7 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 4:49:27pm

re: #6 Aceofwhat?

although i'm no hungrier after having watched it than i was before...

Ace!! How are you, boo?

8 brookly red  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 4:50:15pm

re: #5 PT Barnum

Why do you think I subscribed! Zedo ads are teh wurk ub teh debbil

*Self incriminating felonious comments have been automatically blocked by LegalFilter.com.

9 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 4:50:33pm

re: #6 Aceofwhat?

although i'm no hungrier after having watched it than i was before...

Whoa!
Good to see you back!
Hope you hang around for a bit . . .

10 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 4:52:59pm

re: #7 prairiefire

Ace!! How are you, boo?

Hey girlfriend! I'm unemployed but otherwise fine. Synopsis here.

And with the extra free time, my rendition of Over The Hills And Far Away is getting much better;)

11 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 4:54:11pm

The video (not the music) reminds me of early DEVO.

12 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 4:55:07pm

re: #9 reine.de.tout

Whoa!
Good to see you back!
Hope you hang around for a bit . . .

I think so...but again, my days are so weird. Some days it's a rush of being more involved in my kids' school and answering/making phone calls and other days it's dead.

I still don't have much interest in current affairs, to be honest, but after a little while i realized how much i missed all of the good people here. I knew it was only a matter of time!

13 Digital Display  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 4:58:21pm

re: #12 Aceofwhat?

Hi Ace! Good to see you here

14 KenJen  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 4:59:20pm

Love the cabbage toupee on the yellow melon.

15 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:01:27pm

re: #10 Aceofwhat?

Wow, life is a hell of a ride, my friend. New opportunities, open doors and all of that, bra.

16 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:04:07pm

re: #13 HoosierHoops

Hi Ace! Good to see you here

How's OK treating you? This is a divine time to be in Jacksonville...80 during the day, cool at night...

17 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:05:20pm

re: #10 Aceofwhat?

Sorry to hear of your troubles. THe economy stinks but have faith that things are improving slowly. Hang in there.

18 CuriousLurker  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:05:46pm

re: #10 Aceofwhat?

I was wondering what happened to you. Yikes, sorry to hear about the layoff, but glad to have you back. {Ace}

19 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:05:54pm

re: #12 Aceofwhat?

I think so...but again, my days are so weird. Some days it's a rush of being more involved in my kids' school and answering/making phone calls and other days it's dead.

I still don't have much interest in current affairs, to be honest, but after a little while i realized how much i missed all of the good people here. I knew it was only a matter of time!

Glad to see you back. Enjoy the time you get to have with your kids. There will be time to have a career again later. I was thinking the other day, given that my entire career has been much ado about nothing, that given my choice, I'd still take a ho hum career and a loving wife and family over a terrific career and no family or a disfunctional family any day.

20 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:06:28pm

re: #15 prairiefire

Wow, life is a hell of a ride, my friend. New opportunities, open doors and all of that, bra.

Exactly. We'll be fine, for which i'm extremely grateful, and the extra time with my kids has been priceless. Yours doing well in school so far?

21 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:08:51pm

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Sorry to hear of your troubles. THe economy stinks but have faith that things are improving slowly. Hang in there.

No worries, my dude. My severance package would be embarrassingly generous if i didn't remind myself of all of the stuff i went through for that company. I'm actually a bit sheepish even sharing the fact that i'm unemployed, given how comfortable I am at the moment...

22 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:09:16pm

re: #19 PT Barnum

Glad to see you back. Enjoy the time you get to have with your kids. There will be time to have a career again later. I was thinking the other day, given that my entire career has been much ado about nothing, that given my choice, I'd still take a ho hum career and a loving wife and family over a terrific career and no family or a disfunctional family any day.

well said

23 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:09:20pm

That reminds me, anybody heard from the Shadow Do? Last I heard he was having a rough time at home.

24 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:09:59pm

re: #19 PT Barnum

I'd still take a ho hum career and a loving wife and family over a terrific career and no family or a disfunctional family any day.

How about a ho-hum career and no family? I'm looking to trade that in, if someone is interested.

25 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:12:02pm

re: #21 Aceofwhat?

No worries, my dude. My severance package would be embarrassingly generous if i didn't remind myself of all of the stuff i went through for that company. I'm actually a bit sheepish even sharing the fact that i'm unemployed, given how comfortable I am at the moment...

I've been working part time for the last year and a half but at my full billing rate, it ends up being pretty good. I've been paying debt down like crazy and focusing on getting my cash flow to the point that I could be unemployed with no money coming in at all and we'd still be okay. I need to find some kind of web concept I can put on line and just sit back and let the money come in, but I'm not willing to go into porn, so I'm not sure that's a winning plan as of yet.

26 prairiefire  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:12:53pm

re: #20 Aceofwhat?

Exactly. We'll be fine, for which i'm extremely grateful, and the extra time with my kids has been priceless. Yours doing well in school so far?

Yes, they are doing well, thanks. My boy is enjoying his advance learning class after initially being pissed that is harder than what he is used to. My girl has striped down her bedroom and closet and built them back up as a fab boutique and styling salon.

27 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:13:01pm

re: #24 negativ

How about a ho-hum career and no family? I'm looking to trade that in, if someone is interested.

And which one is more important?

28 brookly red  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:13:10pm

re: #24 negativ

How about a ho-hum career and no family? I'm looking to trade that in, if someone is interested.

I will trade you for unemployed & no family...

29 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:14:50pm

re: #28 brookly red

I will trade you for unemployed & no family...

No thanks, unless you've got a hotel on Boardwalk you're not mentioning.

30 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:15:01pm

re: #28 brookly red

I will trade you for unemployed & no family...

better that than a family and unemployed. At least you only have to answer for yourself...I've been in the unemployed and family situation and that's even worse.

That being said, I hope it gets better for you.

31 Digital Display  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:15:40pm

re: #16 Aceofwhat?

How's OK treating you? This is a divine time to be in Jacksonville...80 during the day, cool at night...

It's going well here...Colts won today and a severe storm is on the way here in Oklahoma ..

32 brookly red  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:16:07pm

re: #30 PT Barnum

better that than a family and unemployed. At least you only have to answer for yourself...I've been in the unemployed and family situation and that's even worse.

That being said, I hope it gets better for you.

Thanks... I hope it will change :)

33 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:16:22pm

re: #26 prairiefire

Yes, they are doing well, thanks. My boy is enjoying his advance learning class after initially being pissed that is harder than what he is used to. My girl has striped down her bedroom and closet and built them back up as a fab boutique and styling salon.

So cool. My son has even worse ADD than i do, but his kindergarten teacher turned out to be an absolute sweetheart, so he's in a great environment. I was a bit nervous about it, but it's been as good as we could have hoped.

34 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:17:16pm

re: #31 HoosierHoops

It's going well here...Colts won today and a severe storm is on the way here in Oklahoma ..

You heard it here: Mike Hart can play football. They keep running that guy, and they're going to like the results. He's like a human playstation...

35 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:17:51pm

re: #33 Aceofwhat?

So cool. My son has even worse ADD than i do, but his kindergarten teacher turned out to be an absolute sweetheart, so he's in a great environment. I was a bit nervous about it, but it's been as good as we could have hoped.

I'm a fellow ADDer. I admire you being able to get on top of it to be successful. It's always manifested in my case as OPD.

36 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:18:28pm

re: #35 PT Barnum

I'm a fellow ADDer. I admire you being able to get on top of it to be successful. It's always manifested in my case as OPD.

Oh yeah...look! a squirrel!

37 brookly red  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:18:52pm

re: #29 negativ

No thanks, unless you've got a hotel on Boardwalk you're not mentioning.

no hotel, but I got a really cool bridge if you have cash...

38 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:19:13pm

re: #32 brookly red

Thanks... I hope it will change :)

What did you do for a living? Tech in the Midwest is starting to get better. I'm starting to get recruiter calls again, which is a hopeful sign.

39 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:21:26pm

re: #35 PT Barnum

I'm a fellow ADDer. I admire you being able to get on top of it to be successful. It's always manifested in my case as OPD.

Yeah, no one diagnosed us, did they? We were just the kids who had trouble paying attention and planning ahead...although i finally got myself some light medication a little time ago and that also made a big difference.

We haven't yet figured out whether our son can cope without medication, but i'm a whole lot more sanguine about including it in the list of options after having experienced such good results myself.

40 brookly red  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:21:53pm

re: #38 PT Barnum

What did you do for a living? Tech in the Midwest is starting to get better. I'm starting to get recruiter calls again, which is a hopeful sign.

I did do CME (continuing medical education) & pharma marketing... and then drug companies became the enemy.

41 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:22:21pm

re: #38 PT Barnum

What did you do for a living? Tech in the Midwest is starting to get better. I'm starting to get recruiter calls again, which is a hopeful sign.

His name is Brookly(n). Newark is the Midwest.

42 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:23:13pm

re: #33 Aceofwhat?

So cool. My son has even worse ADD than i do, but his kindergarten teacher turned out to be an absolute sweetheart, so he's in a great environment. I was a bit nervous about it, but it's been as good as we could have hoped.

You have the makings of a "romantic comedy" screenplay at your fingertips. Write down every interaction, conversation, and random thought you have. The dumber, the better. If you finish it, there's a small but non-zero chance that someone will pay you a significant sum of money for the rights to it, and then turn it into a movie that approximately 34 people will see. But you'll have, like, $15,000 you didn't have before, and that's the important thing.

43 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:23:21pm

re: #39 Aceofwhat?

Yeah, no one diagnosed us, did they? We were just the kids who had trouble paying attention and planning ahead...although i finally got myself some light medication a little time ago and that also made a big difference.

We haven't yet figured out whether our son can cope without medication, but i'm a whole lot more sanguine about including it in the list of options after having experienced such good results myself.

I finally discovered Wellbutrin 10 years ago or so and that helped a lot, though I ended up adding an anti anxiety to it later. Mostly it was figuring out that I'm better at figuring out how to do something than deciding what the best thing to do is. More of a tactical than strategic kind of guy. So I'm much happier as a contractor where nobody is asking me to do anything other than solve their problem.

44 brookly red  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:24:15pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

His name is Brookly(n). Newark is the Midwest.

Mid west??? dang I thought it was in Libya.

45 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:24:21pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

His name is Brookly(n). Newark is the Midwest.

I understood that, but on the other hand who would stay in New Jersey if they could come to Iowa? :)

46 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:24:52pm

re: #45 PT Barnum

I understood that, but on the other hand who would stay in New Jersey if they could come to Iowa? :)

Or Brooklyn for that matter...

47 brookly red  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:25:24pm

re: #46 PT Barnum

Or Brooklyn for that matter...

I am deeply hoit...

48 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:27:17pm

re: #40 brookly red

I did do CME (continuing medical education) & pharma marketing... and then drug companies became the enemy.

I don't see drug companies as being the enemy but it seems to me that if we're going to bring down medical costs, doctors need to start with the cheapest, most effective drug available and then work up from there instead of prescribing "free" samples and locking the patient into a $300 a month habit after the samples run out.

49 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:27:17pm

I really got that bit when I lived in the City:

"Where ya from?"

"Pittsburgh."

"Oh. Out west."

50 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:28:19pm

re: #47 brookly red

I am deeply hoit...

don' take it poisonally, I've never been to Brooklyn, but Walmart is too @#$@ crowded for me, so I probably wouldn't enjoy it all that much.

51 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:29:10pm

re: #21 Aceofwhat?

No worries, my dude. My severance package would be embarrassingly generous if i didn't remind myself of all of the stuff i went through for that company. I'm actually a bit sheepish even sharing the fact that i'm unemployed, given how comfortable I am at the moment...

Glad to hear that. I was unemployed for a little over three months earlier this year. I'm now on my 4th month at my new job and just got promoted.

52 brookly red  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:29:31pm

re: #48 PT Barnum

I don't see drug companies as being the enemy but it seems to me that if we're going to bring down medical costs, doctors need to start with the cheapest, most effective drug available and then work up from there instead of prescribing "free" samples and locking the patient into a $300 a month habit after the samples run out.

well if the patient has cancer I don't think it's right to call it a habit...

53 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:31:11pm

re: #51 Dark_Falcon

Glad to hear that. I was unemployed for a little over three months earlier this year. I'm now on my 4th month at my new job and just got promoted.

All things considered, is it good that it happened that way? A few months after losing some jobs, I was glad of it.

54 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:32:07pm

re: #39 Aceofwhat?

Yeah, no one diagnosed us, did they? We were just the kids who had trouble paying attention and planning ahead...although i finally got myself some light medication a little time ago and that also made a big difference.

We haven't yet figured out whether our son can cope without medication, but i'm a whole lot more sanguine about including it in the list of options after having experienced such good results myself.

Some people have a malfunctioning pancreas, and have to take insulin. Some people have a malfunctioning thyroid gland and have to take Synthroid. Still others have a wonky heart and have to take things like Norvasc or Procardia. There's no social stigma attached to malfunctions in those organs, but as soon as we start talking about the brain, the social game changes. Weird, eh?

55 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:32:51pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

All things considered, is it good that it happened that way? A few months after losing some jobs, I was glad of it.

Yes. I'm better at this job than my old one. I have a good bit less stress at work.

56 brookly red  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:33:32pm

re: #54 negativ

Some people have a malfunctioning pancreas, and have to take insulin. Some people have a malfunctioning thyroid gland and have to take Synthroid. Still others have a wonky heart and have to take things like Norvasc or Procardia. There's no social stigma attached to malfunctions in those organs, but as soon as we start talking about the brain, the social game changes. Weird, eh?

this buds for you.

57 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:34:18pm

re: #43 PT Barnum

I finally discovered Wellbutrin 10 years ago or so and that helped a lot, though I ended up adding an anti anxiety to it later. Mostly it was figuring out that I'm better at figuring out how to do something than deciding what the best thing to do is. More of a tactical than strategic kind of guy. So I'm much happier as a contractor where nobody is asking me to do anything other than solve their problem.

Yep. The right line of work = priceless.

58 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:35:28pm

re: #51 Dark_Falcon

Glad to hear that. I was unemployed for a little over three months earlier this year. I'm now on my 4th month at my new job and just got promoted.

Sweet! Nice work...you must have turned into a closing machine in the past two months...

59 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:35:35pm

re: #52 brookly red

well if the patient has cancer I don't think it's right to call it a habit...

No, but cancer, in my opinion, is a much different category than hypertension, excess stomach acid, or any of the other ailments that usually fall prey to that sort of thing. Been there myself. Got prescribed Benicar because the doc had free samples, except that I could have gotten away with a much less expensive generic and not had to pay out the arse when the free sample supply ran dry. Not to mention Benicar had the unfortunate side effect of increasing the number of floaters I had in my eyes so I'm dealing with that now too.

60 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:36:59pm

re: #54 negativ

Some people have a malfunctioning pancreas, and have to take insulin. Some people have a malfunctioning thyroid gland and have to take Synthroid. Still others have a wonky heart and have to take things like Norvasc or Procardia. There's no social stigma attached to malfunctions in those organs, but as soon as we start talking about the brain, the social game changes. Weird, eh?

Very weird. Well said.

61 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:37:37pm

re: #57 Aceofwhat?

Yep. The right line of work = priceless.

Although I did last 7 1/2 years at Gateway back in the 90s. Which probably was more to the fact that Gateway had corporate ADD than because of any competence or skill on my part.

62 brookly red  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:37:40pm

re: #59 PT Barnum

No, but cancer, in my opinion, is a much different category than hypertension, excess stomach acid, or any of the other ailments that usually fall prey to that sort of thing. Been there myself. Got prescribed Benicar because the doc had free samples, except that I could have gotten away with a much less expensive generic and not had to pay out the arse when the free sample supply ran dry. Not to mention Benicar had the unfortunate side effect of increasing the number of floaters I had in my eyes so I'm dealing with that now too.

perhaps you should blame your Doctor & not the drug companies... just a thought.

63 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:39:04pm

re: #62 brookly red

perhaps you should blame your Doctor & not the drug companies... just a thought.

I blame both. The drug companies for pushing new drugs directly to the ignorant public and the doctors for allowing their patients to self-prescribe or for being too lazy to take a more cost effective approach.

64 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:39:49pm

re: #58 Aceofwhat?

Sweet! Nice work...you must have turned into a closing machine in the past two months...

Actually, the sales that got me there were mostly in July August, and this month. September was a very slow month but the start of the new fiscal year let me get 5 delegate seats sold in five business days. That was enough to get me over the sales mark needed for the promotion. It does not give me any supervisory role, its just gives me a raise and benefits.

65 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:40:36pm

Drudge is linking to Alex Jones' warning to glenn Beck about drinking coke.

66 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:40:59pm

re: #63 PT Barnum

I blame both. The drug companies for pushing new drugs directly to the ignorant public and the doctors for allowing their patients to self-prescribe or for being too lazy to take a more cost effective approach.

I also blame myself for just taking the doctor's word for it and not saying, "Hey wait a minute, is this the best option?" He's learned from there that I don't take samples anymore just because they're free. I want to know if that's the most cost effective option.

Patients, and doctors both have to be more conscientious.

67 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:41:36pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Drudge is linking to Alex Jones' warning to glenn Beck about drinking coke.

Glenn probably snorted enough of it back in the day that it wouldn't make any difference.

68 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:42:13pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Drudge is linking to Alex Jones' warning to glenn Beck about drinking coke.

This could be interesting. But I don't think it will be. I think Glenn Beck just ignores them.

69 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:42:34pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Drudge is linking to Alex Jones' warning to glenn Beck about drinking coke.

PT Barnum - apparently one way to make money from teh interweb is just to make up random poop and link it all over the place. Let me know if you need a VP of Operations...

70 brookly red  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:42:44pm

re: #63 PT Barnum

I blame both. The drug companies for pushing new drugs directly to the ignorant public and the doctors for allowing their patients to self-prescribe or for being too lazy to take a more cost effective approach.

well that is a start. but no prescription, no drugs... if you tell your Dr. your feet hurt & he tell you to buy a car from GM, well not the drug company's fault.

71 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:45:21pm

So, been to the Zionist Conspiracy Meeting. All is well. We have a new member. She is an unabashed, unapologetic DEFENDER of Pamela Geller and thinks that Islam is really a political ideology hell bent on defeating Western Civilization.

I had intended to attend a talk in San Francisco tonight, about the proper way to conduct oneself when defending and promoting Israel on "the street." I was traveling in a vehicle in which myself and the driver were the only ones who support the construction of the Islamic community center. The driver is one of the original founders of our Zionist group and kept out of the discussion, which really was an attack on yours truly, for having the audacity to defend the construction at Park 51.


FOR THE RECORD, I would like to thank Charles and his many posts about Ms Geller and the controversy regarding Park 51, because I used the information from the posts to defend why I thought Ms Geller to be prejudiced and not in tune with reality. After being accused of not being on the right side of things (from a self-described leftist Zionist no less), I excused myself from the carpool and walked home when another fellow steering committee member was picked up in a nearby neighborhood.

And life goes on.

72 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:45:31pm

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

This could be interesting. But I don't think it will be. I think Glenn Beck just ignores them.

I think there's a serious danger in this situation. If Beck becomes seriously ill his followers are going to think it's part of a secret plot. There's a lot of potential for ugliness if something happens to Beck.

73 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:46:55pm

re: #71 eclectic infidel

Good for you!

74 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:47:19pm

re: #70 brookly red

well that is a start. but no prescription, no drugs... if you tell your Dr. your feet hurt & he tell you to buy a car from GM, well not the drug company's fault.

If the drug company has blanketed the airwaves to inform you that if your feet hurt you might need to take Mydogsarbarkin as opposed to just buying different shoes, I think there is some culpability there.

75 jaunte  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:47:40pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

Drudge is linking to Alex Jones' warning to glenn Beck about drinking coke.


Some notes on the eye issues here:

In 1993 R. G. Walton et al reported that they had been compelled to halt a study of aspartame use by people with a history of depression because two participants suffered severe eye problems while the study was underway. One patient suffered a subconjunctival hemorrhage for the first time in her life while another required emergency surgery for a detached retina. The depressed patients also suffered other less severe symptoms.

The NutraSweet company says too few people participated in the Walton study to permit any conclusions to be drawn. Only 13 people were tested. Eight had a history of depression while a control group of five did not. In addition, one of the eye problems showed up while the subject was taking a placebo (an inactive substance) rather than aspartame.[Link: www.straightdope.com...]

76 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:49:08pm

re: #72 Killgore Trout

I think there's a serious danger in this situation. If Beck becomes seriously ill his followers are going to think it's part of a secret plot. There's a lot of potential for ugliness if something happens to Beck.

His followers might think that. In the past, he's kept them updated when he is ill. He should stick to that policy. That way the facts are known and no one jumps to conclusions. This is one issue where Beck's history works in favor of sanity.

77 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:49:53pm

re: #72 Killgore Trout

I think there's a serious danger in this situation. If Beck becomes seriously ill his followers are going to think it's part of a secret plot. There's a lot of potential for ugliness if something happens to Beck.

I'd suggest somebody dropping a couple of tabs of acid in his Coke just to see what would happen, but given the rantings he's been engaging in, I'm not sure anyone would be able to tell the difference.

Glenn Beck...tripping out so old angry white people don't have to.

78 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:50:55pm

Okay off to read to the offspring. We get to meet the Woggle bug tonight (Reading the Land of Oz) one of my all time favorite Oz characters (he loves puns)

79 brookly red  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:51:01pm

re: #74 PT Barnum

If the drug company has blanketed the airwaves to inform you that if your feet hurt you might need to take Mydogsarbarkin as opposed to just buying different shoes, I think there is some culpability there.

as you like it...

80 CuriousLurker  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:51:49pm

re: #71 eclectic infidel

I would like to personally thank you for taking a stand. That's not an easy thing to do when (almost) everyone disagrees with you and the one person who does agree remains silent. Kudos.

81 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:52:05pm

re: #77 PT Barnum

I'd suggest somebody dropping a couple of tabs of acid in his Coke just to see what would happen, but given the rantings he's been engaging in, I'm not sure anyone would be able to tell the difference.

Glenn Beck...tripping out so old angry white people don't have to.

I know you're joking but it didn't work for me. Drugging someone against their will just isn't funny.

82 reine.de.tout  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:54:08pm

re: #54 negativ

Some people have a malfunctioning pancreas, and have to take insulin. Some people have a malfunctioning thyroid gland and have to take Synthroid. Still others have a wonky heart and have to take things like Norvasc or Procardia. There's no social stigma attached to malfunctions in those organs, but as soon as we start talking about the brain, the social game changes. Weird, eh?

Absolutely weird.
And, I thank God every day that I live in a day and age and time and country, where the medications I need to keep me running, are available.

83 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:54:48pm

re: #82 reine.de.tout

Absolutely weird.
And, I thank God every day that I live in a day and age and time and country, where the medications I need to keep me running, are available.

moi aussi, madame...

84 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 5:56:09pm

re: #71 eclectic infidel

And life goes on.

As it must, because most poor bastards in any situation on earth are sane and good. There is no statistical validation for that, but it has carried me 66 yrs, and will get me past Wednesday.

85 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:02:25pm

Odd video is odd.

86 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:16:00pm

re: #80 CuriousLurker

I would like to personally thank you for taking a stand. That's not an easy thing to do when (almost) everyone disagrees with you and the one person who does agree remains silent. Kudos.

I wish you lived in the SF Bay Area. It would be *fabulous* to introduce someone who is Muslim but doesn't have a desire to overthrow the Western hemisphere. You know. put a face on the perceived threat.

But thank you. Initially it was intimidating to stand up to the BS, but the more anti-Muslim sentiment thrown at me, the more I felt I had to say something.

87 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:21:14pm

re: #86 eclectic infidel

I wish you lived in the SF Bay Area. It would be *fabulous* to introduce someone who is Muslim but doesn't have a desire to overthrow the Western hemisphere. You know. put a face on the perceived threat.

But thank you. Initially it was intimidating to stand up to the BS, but the more anti-Muslim sentiment thrown at me, the more I felt I had to say something.

I have the desire to overthrow the entire World.
;)

88 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:21:29pm

And if anyone still wonders why I'm supporting Bill Brady for Governor of Illinois this year, read the Chicago Tribune's endorsement of him:

For governor, Brady

What a spectacular opportunity! With the inept Rod Blagojevich defrocked and awaiting a felony trial, Pat Quinn had two years to reverse the Illinois death spiral: Two years to defang corruption and clout, to reform wild spending and borrowing, to make Illinois tax policy a magnet for jobs. Two years to rescue his beloved state — and to humble the critics who for decades had dismissed him as a gadfly.

Now, nearly two squandered years later, what a disappointment. With history lying in his hands and a populace yearning for him to succeed, Gov. Quinn has proved to the 12.9 million citizens of Illinois that … he is a nice man who cannot do this job. Strength, constancy, innovation, iconoclasm, the courage to speak truth to power — by each of these leadership metrics, Quinn stands bent and pale.

Quinn's bungled tryout — he continues to rule by appeasement even as Illinois and its bright promise unravel — has become the key issue in this race. Democrat Quinn does not grow in office, nor does he compel his party and labor allies to accept solutions that crimp their own influence. For those reasons and others we'll explore, the Tribune today endorses state Sen. Bill Brady for governor.

We know that reviving this moribund state is a challenge greater than any Brady, a Bloomington homebuilder and Republican, has surmounted. By the most important measure of the next few years, though, Brady is the candidate for the job: We believe he will say No to the power-clutching elites — House Speaker Michael Madigan, Senate President John Cullerton, that means you and your cronies — whose insider politics doomed this state to its own private tailspin.

89 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:22:04pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

I know you're joking but it didn't work for me. Drugging someone against their will just isn't funny.

Of course I was joking.....my point was I don't know how people could tell the difference between the ravings of someone having a bad trip and Beck's show most of the time.

90 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:22:25pm

re: #87 Varek Raith

I have the desire to overthrow the entire World.
;)

Me too, but the world would be a better place if we did it. :P

91 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:23:10pm

re: #87 Varek Raith

I have the desire to overthrow the entire World.
;)

Yeah, but you're a Sith. You're not happy unless you're conquering worlds, blowing worlds up, or killing Jedi.

92 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:23:31pm

re: #90 eclectic infidel

Me too, but the world would be a better place if we did it. :P

Perhaps.
Image: 102.jpg

93 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:23:50pm

re: #90 eclectic infidel

Me too, but the world would be a better place if we did it. :P

Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

"I dunno Raith, if there's no pleasing some people how come you keep trying?"

94 Digital Display  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:24:08pm

Holy Cow! When they say a serious storm is heading into Oklahoma..They aren't kidding...The weather girl says golf ball hail is coming next...I'm a believer at this point..Thankfully I have full coverage for the car..This could get ugly

95 Nervous Norvous  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:24:50pm

Anybody want a little yappy #@$@# dog? I'm about ready to put a boot up the ass of mine.

96 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:26:02pm

re: #94 HoosierHoops

Holy Cow! When they say a serious storm is heading into Oklahoma..They aren't kidding...The weather girl says golf ball hail is coming next...I'm a believer at this point..Thankfully I have full coverage for the car..This could get ugly

You're in Norman, right?
There's a reason why that's where the Storm Prediction Center's located there.
;)

97 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:26:32pm

re: #93 PT Barnum

Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

"I dunno Raith, if there's no pleasing some people how come you keep trying?"

They're PT,
They're PT and the Raith,
Raith,
Raith,
Raith,
Raith,
Raith,
Raith,

[Narf!]

98 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:28:00pm

re: #94 HoosierHoops

Holy Cow! When they say a serious storm is heading into Oklahoma..They aren't kidding...The weather girl says golf ball hail is coming next...I'm a believer at this point..Thankfully I have full coverage for the car..This could get ugly

You're not in Indy anymore, Dorothy!

99 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:29:33pm

re: #98 Aceofwhat?

You're not in Indy anymore, Dorothy!

Indiana is still on the Great Flatness. They get their share of thunderstorm activity and decent sized hail. Just not quite like being in Tornado Alley...

100 Digital Display  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:29:54pm

re: #96 Varek Raith

You're in Norman, right?
There's a reason why that's where the Storm Prediction Center's located there.
;)

I'm in Norman..Apparently Storms aren't play school here..The lightning really rocks..

101 CuriousLurker  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:29:55pm

re: #86 eclectic infidel

I wish you lived in the SF Bay Area. It would be *fabulous* to introduce someone who is Muslim but doesn't have a desire to overthrow the Western hemisphere. You know. put a face on the perceived threat.

I'm always puzzled by people who think we Muslims all want to take over the world. There are certainly some who do, but most people I know are just happy to make it through the trials & tribulations of everyday existence in one piece.

I suspect that the people who see us as a looming threat probably don't have any close relationships with Muslims.

But thank you. Initially it was intimidating to stand up to the BS, but the more anti-Muslim sentiment thrown at me, the more I felt I had to say something.

Here, have a hug for your efforts: {eclectic infidel}
It's not much, but it's all I can offer from this distance. ;o)

103 SpaceJesus  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:31:46pm
104 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:33:32pm

re: #88 Dark_Falcon
A bit more than half of that article was devoted to enumerating all the various ways Pat Quinn sucks, and it concludes with the author stating that he doesn't know whether Bill Brady is qualified for office or not. That's not much of an endorsement, if you ask me, which you don't.

None of my canines are participating in that particular reconnaissance operation. Just sayin'.

105 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:34:22pm
106 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:34:39pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

Obama has the book thrown at him: Moment a missile narrowly misses the U.S. President's head during campaign rally

Looks like the cops also had to cart off a streaker. Geeze, what weirdness. Glad nobody (especially the president) got hurt.

107 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:35:05pm

re: #101 CuriousLurker

Thank you [kindly] for the embrace. That means a lot.
Even from a distance.

108 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:35:10pm
109 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:36:55pm

re: #95 PT Barnum

Anybody want a little yappy #@$@# dog? I'm about ready to put a boot up the ass of mine.

So i'm going to be a vampire this year for Halloween with my kids...ordered some colored contact lenses and a decent pair of fangs.

I'd received the fangs yesterday and molded them to my canines. I happened to have them in when our toy chihuahua started to bark at something she heard outside.

Usually a dog whisperer stare from me does the trick, but this time I also bared my new fangs and hissed at her. She shook like a leaf.

Hi
lar
ious

110 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:37:34pm

re: #104 negativ

A bit more than half of that article was devoted to enumerating all the various ways Pat Quinn sucks, and it concludes with the author stating that he doesn't know whether Bill Brady is qualified for office or not. That's not much of an endorsement, if you ask me, which you don't.

None of my canines are participating in that particular reconnaissance operation. Just sayin'.

Well, Quinn clearly can't do what is needed. Brady is not corrupt and not the machine's thrall, and that's enough for me. Even if there is some risk in picking him, the certain failure of Quinn makes the risk worth taking.

111 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:37:40pm

re: #108 Decatur Deb

Too small to be "Atlas Shrugged".

It might be interesting to see what book it was.
It's disgraceful no matter what.

112 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:39:22pm
113 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:40:24pm

re: #111 Killgore Trout

It might be interesting to see what book it was.
It's disgraceful no matter what.

Quite Concur. The only thing that throwing a book at Obama accomplishes is to disgrace the person who threw it and their cause.

114 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:41:22pm

re: #106 Dark_Falcon

Looks like the cops also had to cart off a streaker. Geeze, what weirdness. Glad nobody (especially the president) got hurt.

i'll never understand streakers. i don't even like being naked when i'm at home by myself...my boys are happiest when gently coddled in boxers and shorts.

115 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:42:11pm

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

Quite Concur. The only thing that throwing a book at Obama accomplishes is to disgrace the person who threw it and their cause.

I think it's embarrassing to the entire country.

116 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:42:48pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

Obama has the book thrown at him: Moment a missile narrowly misses the U.S. President's head during campaign rally

Might want to give it a bit of time. Nothing carrying this at the moment seems any more responsible than huffpo.

117 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:44:14pm

re: #115 Killgore Trout

I think it's embarrassing to the entire country.

Indeed. Shameful. It's the sort of thing i see in, say, Mozambique and think "gosh i'm glad that sort of uncivilized thing doesn't happen in the States".

I'm looking forward to 17 large folks in dark suits showing up at that person's front door very soon...

118 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:44:23pm

re: #116 Decatur Deb

Might want to give it a bit of time. Nothing carrying this at the moment seems any more responsible than huffpo.

Most of the rest are closed for the night. It's a Sunday night, even the news nets are on a skeleton crew.

119 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:44:59pm

re: #89 PT Barnum

Of course I was joking...my point was I don't know how people could tell the difference between the ravings of someone having a bad trip and Beck's show most of the time.

I once heard a story about a group of late-teenage kids who, in the late 1980s, all ingested some LSD and then happened to watch Schoolhouse Rock:

According to the legend, the part where the guy recites, "three six nine twelve fifteen eighteen" etc., etc., was perceived by the group to be not merely a recitation of a certain segment of the multiplication table, but was in fact a declarative sentence conveying profound secret knowledge about Life, the Universe, and Everything that probably seemed incomprehensible later, but at the time was both figuratively and literally The Bee's Knees.

That's just what I've heard.

120 ozbloke  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:46:50pm

re: #95 PT Barnum

Anybody want a little yappy #@$@# dog? I'm about ready to put a boot up the ass of mine.

No thanks, me and the misses decided we didn't want kids.





Any takers, pick em up or we can drop them off...

121 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:47:37pm

re: #113 Dark_Falcon

Disgraceful. Harmless, but disgraceful.

122 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:52:41pm

New York gubernatorial candidate criticizes gays

New York (CNN) -- New York Republican gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino criticized gays Sunday, saying he didn't want children "to be brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid or successful option," compared to heterosexuality.

"It isn't," Paladino said at a stop in Brooklyn, New York.

A prepared version of his remarks obtained by CNN from New York affiliate NY1 said that "There is nothing to be proud of in being a dysfunctional homosexual," though Paladino did not wind up delivering that line.

"That's not how (God) created us," the prepared remarks continued, though Paladino did not say those words.

Paladino distributed copies of his prepared remarks to reporters at the event, an address to a group of Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn's Williamsburg neighborhood.

The candidate's remarks came a day after New York police announced the arrest of an eighth suspect in a series of brutal, anti-gay hate crimes against four men.

123 ClaudeMonet  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:52:44pm

re: #43 PT Barnum

I finally discovered Wellbutrin 10 years ago or so and that helped a lot, though I ended up adding an anti anxiety to it later. Mostly it was figuring out that I'm better at figuring out how to do something than deciding what the best thing to do is. More of a tactical than strategic kind of guy. So I'm much happier as a contractor where nobody is asking me to do anything other than solve their problem.

I just switched to Wellbutrin, and I'm having a side effect (perhaps) of a slight bit of dizziness when I get up in the morning, stand up after sitting for more than an hour, etc. And it's done nothing thus far for my generalized feeling of loathing for 95% of the people I meet (Lizards being among the other 5%). I'm jumpy, edgy, easily provoked, and all that.

Tell me some good news about this drug. Please.

124 ClaudeMonet  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:55:17pm

re: #49 Decatur Deb

I really got that bit when I lived in the City:

"Where ya from?"

"Pittsburgh."

"Oh. Out west."

No kidding. Many of my parents' childhood, adolescent, and young adult friends in NYC thought they were moving to Indian country when we moved to Buffalo. Then Pittsburgh. Then Cincinnati. I can only imagine what they would have thought the time Dad almost got a job in Denver.

125 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:56:25pm

re: #122 Varek Raith

New York gubernatorial candidate criticizes gays

Carl Paladino: Wingnut Goomba.

126 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:57:16pm

Masterpiece Mystery in 5. 'Nite, all.

127 Aceofwhat?  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:57:54pm

re: #126 Decatur Deb

Masterpiece Mystery in 5. 'Nite, all.

peace

128 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:59:08pm

re: #125 Dark_Falcon

Image: goomba-6275.jpg

129 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:59:27pm

re: #123 ClaudeMonet

I just switched to Wellbutrin, and I'm having a side effect (perhaps) of a slight bit of dizziness when I get up in the morning, stand up after sitting for more than an hour, etc. And it's done nothing thus far for my generalized feeling of loathing for 95% of the people I meet (Lizards being among the other 5%). I'm jumpy, edgy, easily provoked, and all that.

Tell me some good news about this drug. Please.

Every alcoholic beverage you consume will hit you like two & 1/2? Oh and if you're too thin, you'll really put on weight too?

Really, I hated it when I took it as part of my smoking sessation. While I can see I might need an anti-depressant still, I can guarantee it won't be that one.

130 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 6:59:54pm

Sad News:

The Angel of the Isles: British aid worker blown up in Afghanistan by suicide vest in aborted rescue mission by U.S. special forces

A British aid worker captured by the Taliban in Afghanistan was killed in an explosion as US Special Forces launched a dramatic pre-dawn rescue mission early yesterday.

Linda Norgrove, 36, died from serious injuries suffered in the blast – almost certainly caused by a suicide vest held near her by one of her captors.

Last night a source revealed Miss Norgrove – who grew up in a simple croft in the Western Isles of Scotland before dedicating herself to rebuilding Afghanistan – had been held for a fortnight in a remote family compound where a number of women and ­children were also living.

But by the time 150 US Special Forces troops had fought through ­Taliban small arms fire for 30 minutes and stormed the compound, Miss ­Norgrove had been 'mortally wounded'.

It is believed she was still alive when the soldiers reached her, but they were unable to save her life. At least seven militants were killed in the firefight. The rest fled into the darkness.

A source said: 'Miss Norgrove was killed by an explosion, probably caused by a suicide vest, held by one of the attackers.' The source said there was 'nothing about her injuries that suggested Allied forces caused her death'.

I hope the spoldey-dope is finding Hell hot enough for him right now.

131 ClaudeMonet  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 7:00:12pm

re: #71 eclectic infidel

So, been to the Zionist Conspiracy Meeting. All is well. We have a new member. She is an unabashed, unapologetic DEFENDER of Pamela Geller and thinks that Islam is really a political ideology hell bent on defeating Western Civilization.

I had intended to attend a talk in San Francisco tonight, about the proper way to conduct oneself when defending and promoting Israel on "the street." I was traveling in a vehicle in which myself and the driver were the only ones who support the construction of the Islamic community center. The driver is one of the original founders of our Zionist group and kept out of the discussion, which really was an attack on yours truly, for having the audacity to defend the construction at Park 51.

FOR THE RECORD, I would like to thank Charles and his many posts about Ms Geller and the controversy regarding Park 51, because I used the information from the posts to defend why I thought Ms Geller to be prejudiced and not in tune with reality. After being accused of not being on the right side of things (from a self-described leftist Zionist no less), I excused myself from the carpool and walked home when another fellow steering committee member was picked up in a nearby neighborhood.

And life goes on.

Good for you. Keep on standing up for your principles, especially when others are bamboozled by people who have none.

Now you see why I volunteer to drive when people are carpooling. I'm not afraid to ditch a-holes when they are loony in MY car.

"Here's a twenty. Get a cab home, and use the change to buy yourself a clue."

132 freetoken  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 7:01:05pm

re: #123 ClaudeMonet

People respond to psychotropic drugs very idiosyncratically. I'm afraid any of our experiences may not be yours.

133 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 7:01:17pm

re: #95 PT Barnum

Anybody want a little yappy #@$@# dog? I'm about ready to put a boot up the ass of mine.

I'm well versed in the Way of the Chihuahua, and if that's what you've got then we need to talk.

Otherwise, lol.

134 researchok  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 7:03:22pm

re: #123 ClaudeMonet

I just switched to Wellbutrin, and I'm having a side effect (perhaps) of a slight bit of dizziness when I get up in the morning, stand up after sitting for more than an hour, etc. And it's done nothing thus far for my generalized feeling of loathing for 95% of the people I meet (Lizards being among the other 5%). I'm jumpy, edgy, easily provoked, and all that.

Tell me some good news about this drug. Please.

Give it time and stay in touch with your MD.

I assume that MD was a psychiatrist.

135 ClaudeMonet  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 7:03:43pm

re: #129 wlewisiii

Every alcoholic beverage you consume will hit you like two & 1/2? Oh and if you're too thin, you'll really put on weight too?

Really, I hated it when I took it as part of my smoking sessation. While I can see I might need an anti-depressant still, I can guarantee it won't be that one.

Yeah, I had two beers Friday night in three hours and they felt like about four. I took the sensible route and quit drinking.

And I'm overweight enough as it is.

I'll give it another month or two, then tell my doctor that it may be psychiatrist time. I'm functional and sometimes enjoying myself, but most of the time I just...can't...deal...with...a...lot...of...shit.

136 ClaudeMonet  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 7:09:28pm

re: #94 HoosierHoops

Holy Cow! When they say a serious storm is heading into Oklahoma..They aren't kidding...The weather girl says golf ball hail is coming next...I'm a believer at this point..Thankfully I have full coverage for the car..This could get ugly

I hate to say, "I told you so", but I did warn you about the weather. One advantage you have there as compared to "back home in Indiana" is that you can SEE massive bad weather coming so often. When you see a solid dark gray line to the west, it's God's way of saying, "I'm not kidding, this is some serious sh**"

Always keep comprehensive coverage on a car when you live in Tornado Alley. You probably won't experience a tornado, but hail...

137 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 7:11:48pm

Gotta share this.
I took a kid shooting for his 11th birthday this afternoon. He's my one martial art's student lately.

This kids grin as he had all this fun shooting all these guns he'd only seen as toys or read about... Wow. I so remember that feeling myself like when I got to fly a plane or something.

This kid shot .22 through up through light loaded .45 pistols today. He wanted to try them all. Between his Dads collection and my humble array he got to try six different pistols.
That smile will stay with me as long as I live.

138 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 7:16:55pm

re: #137 Rightwingconspirator

You BOTH had fun!

139 ClaudeMonet  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 7:18:21pm

re: #137 Rightwingconspirator

Gotta share this.
I took a kid shooting for his 11th birthday this afternoon. He's my one martial art's student lately.

This kids grin as he had all this fun shooting all these guns he'd only seen as toys or read about... Wow. I so remember that feeling myself like when I got to fly a plane or something.

This kid shot .22 through up through light loaded .45 pistols today. He wanted to try them all. Between his Dads collection and my humble array he got to try six different pistols.
That smile will stay with me as long as I live.

I hope you taught him to do EVERYTHING connected with guns "by the book". "This is no game, if you mess up with guns you die...or someone else dies, which is worse."

re: #134 researchok

Give it time and stay in touch with your MD.

I assume that MD was a psychiatrist.

No, this was my GP, whose office is a little over a mile from my place and less than a quarter mile from where my office was until less than three years ago. I do taxes for his parents, his father's medical corporation, and his two brothers, but not him, and his family has known my boss' family for over 50 years. I trust him.

140 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 7:22:17pm

re: #123 ClaudeMonet

I just switched to Wellbutrin, and I'm having a side effect (perhaps) of a slight bit of dizziness when I get up in the morning, stand up after sitting for more than an hour, etc. And it's done nothing thus far for my generalized feeling of loathing for 95% of the people I meet (Lizards being among the other 5%). I'm jumpy, edgy, easily provoked, and all that.

Tell me some good news about this drug. Please.

If Wellbutrin works for you, then it's great. If not, then it's terrible.

I'm more than willing to discuss my experiences via email (negativ at gmail dot com) if you feel the need.

141 Daniel Ballard  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 7:33:42pm

re: #139 ClaudeMonet

Yes he got that lesson, utterly. But in a less sharp way, as best for the youngster. In fact Mike Dalton, my mentor & a protege of Jeff Cooper always has this low key but memorable correction style. This guy helped create tactical pistol as a modern fighting art, without the drill sergeant style. All the more impressive as a low key effective instructional style.

142 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Oct 10, 2010 7:39:42pm

re: #137 Rightwingconspirator

Gotta share this.
I took a kid shooting for his 11th birthday this afternoon. He's my one martial art's student lately.

This kids grin as he had all this fun shooting all these guns he'd only seen as toys or read about... Wow. I so remember that feeling myself like when I got to fly a plane or something.

This kid shot .22 through up through light loaded .45 pistols today. He wanted to try them all. Between his Dads collection and my humble array he got to try six different pistols.
That smile will stay with me as long as I live.

Cool beanz. I look forward to the day I can be at the range with my son and hand him my Model 64 and his mom's Colt Targetsman. I think that will light up his day as well.


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