1 122 Year Old Obama  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 5:57:57pm

No argument here.

2 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 5:58:04pm

Yes, the GOP has become the Birther Party, surprising…absolutely no one.

3 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 5:58:19pm

details at 11…okay

4 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 5:59:18pm

Stand by for Chris Matthews derangement.

5 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 5:59:31pm

Ugh. Robert Stacy McCain’s neo-Nazi pal Bill White has been released from prison.

Great.

6 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 5:59:32pm

what if?

7 122 Year Old Obama  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:01:02pm

re: #5 Charles

O Justice, where art thou?

8 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:01:29pm

re: #5 Charles

Ugh. Robert Stacy McCain’s neo-Nazi pal Bill White has been released from prison.

Great.

I extend a heartfelt invitation for Bill to come out to NM for a pow wow with me

9 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:01:54pm

re: #5 Charles

Ugh. Robert Stacy McCain’s neo-Nazi pal Bill White has been released from prison.

Great.

Irony of ironies, the people who got him out? The ACLU.

Gee, I wonder if he’ll thank them. /

11 jamesfirecat  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:04:42pm

re: #10 Gus 802

Quiet simply the Republican Party has become the Birther Party…

It all started when Nixon got them hanging around with the wrong kind of people….

12 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:05:28pm

re: #10 Gus 802

Quiet simply the Republican Party has become the Birther Party…

we’ll just have to get by without them…it’s a passing thing, corrupt, but it has a reasonable half life…n’est pas?

13 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:05:43pm

re: #11 jamesfirecat

It all started when Nixon got them hanging around with the wrong kind of people…

Maybe. Myself I see it as Reagan and the religious right and the televangelists.

14 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:06:29pm

What the hell at this point.

15 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:06:30pm

Bill White is the reason I own a Mossberg.

16 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:06:45pm

the Devil made me do it…I’m innocent

17 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:07:08pm

“Modern Whigs”

18 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:07:09pm

re: #15 Charles

Bill White is the reason I own a Mossberg.

LOL!
do what you must

19 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:07:19pm

re: #12 albusteve

we’ll just have to get by without them…it’s a passing thing, corrupt, but it has a reasonable half life…n’est pas?

Was wondering where you went before.

20 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:07:35pm

re: #18 albusteve

LOL!
do what you must

Dude. He threatened me.

21 jamesfirecat  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:07:54pm

re: #14 Ojoe

What the hell at this point.

What do you mean by that Ojoe?

22 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:08:01pm

re: #15 Charles

Bill White is the reason I own a Mossberg.

Smith & Wesson 64.

23 Decatur Deb  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:08:19pm

re: #15 Charles

Bill White is the reason I own a Mossberg.

Have you ever talked to SPLC about security issues? They might have something to share.

24 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:08:30pm

re: #4 Gus 802

Stand by for Chris Matthews derangement.

Well, the man has two legs.

25 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:08:50pm

re: #22 wlewisiii

Smith & Wesson 64.

I’ll simply add there are similar types here in old Wisconsin…

26 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:08:53pm

re: #15 Charles

Bill White is the reason I own a Mossberg.

Shotgun?

27 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:09:01pm

re: #21 jamesfirecat

“They are so nuts. There are other things to talk about. Too many people are nuts.”

Is what I mean.

28 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:09:12pm

What a piece of shit…

www2.wsls.com

29 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:09:21pm

re: #13 Gus 802

Maybe. Myself I see it as Reagan and the religious right and the televangelists.

I think that was the point of no return. re: #13 Gus 802

Maybe. Myself I see it as Reagan and the religious right and the televangelists.

I think you’re both right. Nixon is the one who courted the segregationists but policy wise he was fairly reasonable.Reagan meanwhile pandered to both them and the Christian right. I will never respect Reagan for his blatant racial insensitivity.

30 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:09:22pm

re: #26 Varek Raith

Shotgun?

It ain’t a pea shooter.

31 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:09:40pm

re: #20 Charles

Dude. He threatened me.

that’s certainly what I do not find funny…it was the tone in context…it’s getting crazy and fast and everyone needs a comfort zone, including you

32 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:10:14pm

re: #26 Varek Raith
Yes it is. My brother in law has one too.

33 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:10:37pm

re: #30 Charles

It ain’t a pea shooter.

re: #32 PhillyPretzel

Yes it is. My brother in law has one too.

Thanks.

34 jamesfirecat  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:10:46pm

re: #27 Ojoe

“They are so nuts. There are other things to talk about. Too many people are nuts.”

Is what I mean.

Thank you for the clarification.

I still think the fact that one of America’s two main Political Parties has gone completely insane is still worth talking about though….

35 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:10:54pm

re: #19 Gus 802

Was wondering where you went before.

I’m around….well paid to keep my eye on you

36 darthstar  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:11:08pm

Bill White’s a fucking Brietbart (I find the word ‘pussy’ sexist, so I used the first synonym that popped into my head).

37 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:11:26pm

re: #33 Varek Raith
You are welcome. :)

38 jamesfirecat  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:11:31pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

I think that was the point of no return. re: #13 Gus 802

I think you’re both right. Nixon is the one who courted the segregationists but policy wise he was fairly reasonable.Reagan meanwhile pandered to both them and the Christian right. I will never respect Reagan for his blatant racial insensitivity.

///Young bucks!

///T-Bone steak!

39 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:11:50pm

re: #36 darthstar

Yes, but a threat is a threat, and must be taken seriously.

40 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:12:02pm

It’s interesting to learn just how many of us far-left libtards (or whatever) are armed. I guess the difference is the emotional need to advertise that fact.

41 zora  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:12:19pm

re: #5 Charles

that was quick.

42 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:12:31pm

re: #39 Floral Giraffe

Yes, but a threat is a threat, and must be taken seriously.

correct

43 darthstar  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:13:05pm

re: #32 PhillyPretzel

Yes it is. My brother in law has one too.

The JIC or JICII? (disassembled shotgun in a bag…just in case).

In case what, I haven’t figured out…maybe just in case you’re traveling through a small town and see a bank that needs knocking over?

44 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:13:20pm

re: #5 Charles

Ugh. Robert Stacy McCain’s neo-Nazi pal Bill White has been released from prison.

Great.

Disturbing news.

45 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:13:25pm

re: #40 prononymous

It’s interesting to learn just how many of us far-left libtards (or whatever) are armed. I guess the difference is the emotional need to advertise that fact.

spit wads don’t count

46 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:14:26pm

re: #43 darthstar
I think it is just in case.

47 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:15:17pm

re: #44 Killgore Trout

Disturbing news.

it’s a shame White does not have to wonder where to go next…or does he?

48 darthstar  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:15:55pm

re: #39 Floral Giraffe

Yes, but a threat is a threat, and must be taken seriously.


For Charles’ sake, I hope Bill White had a miserable enough time in prison he doesn’t want to risk going back…why was Bill White in prison, anyway?

49 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:16:36pm

re: #38 jamesfirecat

///Young bucks!

///T-Bone steak!


Bada-bing.

50 darthstar  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:16:37pm

re: #46 PhillyPretzel

I think it is just in case.

Got it…I hate when people bring Trivial Pursuit to a dinner party too.

51 the yankee  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:16:39pm

re: #15 Charles

Bill White is the reason I own a Mossberg.

I always found dogs more useful then guns when it comes to protecting your self on your on property at least. A gun isn’t going to run to you in a fight or give you a warning when something is on your yard. Not saying guns are useless. But if i thought someone was coming after me where I live, I would be run to the dog pound before I went to the gun store is all i am saying.

52 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:16:39pm

re: #4 Gus 802

Stand by for Chris Matthews derangement.

The sad truth is he’s a complete dope but looks like a genius next to the GOP.

53 Decatur Deb  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:18:00pm

re: #51 the yankee

I always found dogs more useful then guns when it comes to protecting your self on your on property at least. A gun isn’t going to run to you in a fight or give you a warning when something is on your yard. Not saying guns are useless. But if i thought someone was coming after me where I live, I would be run to the dog pound before I went to the gun store is all i am saying.

Dogs good, guns good, dogs plus guns especially good.

54 SpaceJesus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:18:45pm

re: #20 Charles

we should start a club

55 the yankee  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:19:21pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

The sad truth is he’s a complete dope but looks like a genius next to the GOP.

i never thought of him as being stupid I just think he wears his emotions on his sleeve.

56 darthstar  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:19:51pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

Dogs good, guns good, dogs plus guns especially good.

And Jesus. If you’ve got the dogs and the guns, and you put a big picture of Jesus in your yard (like one of those Harelquin romance style ones with the pained face and all the extra blood gushing from his wounds and the thorns on his forehead) then nobody will fuck with you…and you’ll get less mail.

57 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:19:54pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

Dogs good, guns good, dogs plus guns especially good.

lasers, pressure sensors, coded optics, Claymores

58 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:20:15pm

What Bill White did:

Hoffman’s photo was posted on White’s Overthrow.com site next to his address, telephone number and other personal information, including his sexual orientation. White’s posting called him a “gay, Jewish anti-racist.” Hoffman, a former associate dean at Northwestern University, was never directly threatened with physical violence, but he told The Sun-Times in Chicago he had received ominous telephone calls afterward asking about his association with the Hale trial. He also got text messages that read, “sodomize Obama” and “cremate jews [sic].”

59 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:20:35pm

I’ll just stick to heads on spikes in the front yard.

60 Decatur Deb  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:21:45pm

re: #57 albusteve

lasers, pressure sensors, coded optics, Claymores

It’s not that bad here yet. Probably won’t get that bad.

61 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:21:55pm

What is Stacy McCain’s connection to White by chance? Not surprised but I hadn’t heard about that.

62 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:22:04pm

And the ACLU went to bat for this puke under the 1st Amendment. So we all can now post the name, address and phone number of people we hate, online, and juxtapose it with a heavy dose of hate, make that violently laced speech and call it “freedom of speech.” Something doesn’t sound right.

63 darthstar  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:22:13pm

re: #58 Gus 802

What Bill White did:

Ah…so he is a bit like Brietbart, only with a little less self control.

64 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:22:30pm

re: #60 Decatur Deb

It’s not that bad here yet. Probably won’t get that bad.

just a reminder

65 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:23:18pm

re: #55 the yankee

i never thought of him as being stupid I just think he wears his emotions on his sleeve.

He’s not as dumb as Palin but I still find him sort of dim witted. Being overly emotional doesn’t help.

66 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:23:29pm

re: #62 Gus 802

And the ACLU went to bat for this puke under the 1st Amendment. So we all can now post the name, address and phone number of people we hate, online, and juxtapose it with a heavy dose of hate, make that violently laced speech and call it “freedom of speech.” Something doesn’t sound right.

too busy for that shit…go for it

67 The Yankee  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:23:45pm

re: #62 Gus 802

And the ACLU went to bat for this puke under the 1st Amendment. So we all can now post the name, address and phone number of people we hate, online, and juxtapose it with a heavy dose of hate, make that violently laced speech and call it “freedom of speech.” Something doesn’t sound right.

Well the pro-lifers have been doing this for a while right? So this has precedent.

68 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:24:24pm

re: #67 The Yankee

Well the pro-lifers have been doing this for a while right? So this has precedent.

I suppose so. Oh well. Fits in with America’s violent nature doesn’t it?

69 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:25:43pm

U.S. v. White (amicus)

Legal Standard for “True Threats.” (4th Circuit Court of Appeals, amicus) Counsel: Gabriel Walters and Rebecca Glenberg for the affiliate.

William White, a white supremacist, was convicted by a jury in federal court of making threats against various people. The judge set aside some, but not all, of the convictions on First Amendment grounds. White argued, among other things, that he could not be convicted of making threats unless there was proof that he had intended his statements to be threatening. The judge disagreed, holding that the government need only show that the statements would be understood as threatening by a reasonable listener. White appealed. On October 4, 2010, we filed an amicus brief arguing that the First Amendment prohibits punishment of threats unless the defendant intended his statements to be threatening.

70 darthstar  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:26:14pm

re: #68 Gus 802

I suppose so. Oh well. Fits in with America’s violent nature doesn’t it?

WE’RE NOT VIOLENT!! TAKE THAT BACK OR ELSE!!o11ty!

71 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:26:20pm

That may have sounded like a threat but I really didn’t intend for it to be threatening!

72 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:26:23pm

re: #68 Gus 802

I suppose so. Oh well. Fits in with America’s violent nature doesn’t it?

it’s not American, it’s Christian

73 darthstar  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:27:00pm

re: #71 Gus 802

That may have sounded like a threat but I really didn’t intend for it to be threatening!

It doesn’t count unless it’s in all caps…and then it doesn’t count because it’s in all caps.

74 theheat  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:28:05pm

re: #28 Gus 802

That is one demented looking POS. Bent.

75 darthstar  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:28:57pm

re: #74 theheat

That is one demented looking POS. Bent.

Whoa…never saw his pic before. Dude doesn’t even have a good side.

76 jaunte  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:29:11pm

re: #69 Gus 802

How does the judge determine that a threat was not intended to be threatening?

77 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:29:15pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

What is Stacy McCain’s connection to White by chance? Not surprised but I hadn’t heard about that.

McCain met Bill White at a conference of American Renaissance, a white supremacist group. He then helped White get several articles published in the Washington Times, and posted many links to White’s racist hate site Overthrow.com at Free Republic.

See: littlegreenfootballs.com

78 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:30:07pm

re: #77 Charles

McCain met Bill White at a conference of American Renaissance, a white supremacist group. He then helped White get several articles published in the Washington Times, and posted many links to White’s racist hate site Overthrow.com at Free Republic.

See: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

White’s a Nazi

79 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:30:25pm

re: #76 jaunte

How does the judge determine that a threat was not intended to be threatening?

Would have to read their brief I suppose. Or I suppose it would have to be a directly worded threat like “I am going to…”.

80 darthstar  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:32:00pm

re: #78 albusteve

White’s a Nazi

You know what sucks about having an argument with a Nazi? Godwin’s rule doesn’t apply. Fucking cocksuckers…Nazis ruin all the fun.

81 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:33:11pm

re: #77 Charles

McCain met Bill White at a conference of American Renaissance, a white supremacist group. He then helped White get several articles published in the Washington Times, and posted many links to White’s racist hate site Overthrow.com at Free Republic.

See: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Thanks, not surprised at all.

82 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:33:27pm

re: #80 darthstar

You know what sucks about having an argument with a Nazi? Godwin’s rule doesn’t apply. Fucking cocksuckers…Nazis ruin all the fun.

neo’s are the scourge of the earth, as I see it…
I volunteer

83 jaunte  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:35:17pm

re: #79 Gus 802

Here’s one applicable part of the brief:

Virginia v. Black discussed the concept of true threats in the context of a Virginia statute criminalizing cross-burning with intent to intimidate. The Supreme Court struck down a provision of the statute stating that the act of crossburning would constitute prima facie evidence of an intent to threaten. Id. at 367.
The Court defined “true threats” as “those statements where the speaker means to communicate a serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful
violence to a particular individual or group of individuals.” Id. at 359. The plain
meaning of this passage is that a speaker must specifically intend to threaten for his words to constitute true threats and thus fall outside First Amendment protection.
Thus, for example, in Magleby, 420 at 1139, the court stated that true
threats, “[u]nprotected by the Constitution[,] … must be made ‘with the intent of placing the victim in fear of bodily harm or death.’ An intent to threaten is
enough; the further intent to carry out the threat is unnecessary.” (quoting Black, 538 U.S. at 359-60).
84 theheat  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:35:57pm

re: #77 Charles

See: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

If you can explain why you are important enough that you would make a good target, I would be happy to consider sending someone by. Just forward your address.

Bill White, Commander

It takes one helluva freak to solicit targets for violence and call himself “Commander.”

JFC, I can’t imagine the kill and torture fantasies people like this have rattling around in their skinheads all day long. And the heads of their friends. And their friends.

85 zora  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:38:07pm

re: #56 darthstar

And Jesus. If you’ve got the dogs and the guns, and you put a big picture of Jesus in your yard (like one of those Harelquin romance style ones with the pained face and all the extra blood gushing from his wounds and the thorns on his forehead) then nobody will fuck with you…and you’ll get less mail.

having a gun and a dog is not about making sure no one will fuck with you. life happens. it’s for what you do when someone fucks with you. if you live in a rural area ( wild animals,police far away) or dangerous area (police close but may not be coming anytime soon), possibly not physically strong, a defender of you and yours… what would you suggest for protection from intruders, predators, wild animals and the like? if you are not a convicted felon or mentally ill, a gun and a dog might help you out in a pinch.

also, jesus really doesn’t need to come up in any argument about firearms. he has no stated position in the bible.

86 darthstar  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:38:35pm

re: #82 albusteve

neo’s are the scourge of the earth, as I see it…
I volunteer

They aren’t worth my attention.

87 theheat  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:38:44pm

re: #80 darthstar

Nobody feels sorry for nazis. Not nazi zombies. Not real nazis.

88 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:39:03pm

re: #84 theheat

It takes one helluva freak to solicit targets for violence and call himself “Commander.”

JFC, I can’t imagine the kill and torture fantasies people like this have rattling around in their skinheads all day long. And the heads of their friends. And their friends.

people like that make their own legends…I want to be left alone with my sawed off 20g auto loader…the big shots can run the rest of the show

89 Stanley Sea  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:40:35pm

Hey, I just played this for some political acolytes. Very interesting success of retrospect.

90 darthstar  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:44:16pm

re: #85 zora

Life long gun owner here. Have been shooting since I was able to walk. Fired my dad’s muzzle loader when I was five. Learned to use a reloader when I was about seven. Always been a bit of a pacifist, too…but I could hold a 2 inch pattern at 200 yards with my 1942 Springfield .30-06 with Lyman peep sights when I was in my 20s.

And, like Hank’s song, I’ve actually skinned my own buck and run a trot line.

91 Stanley Sea  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:44:33pm

re: #89 Stanley Sea

Hey, I just played this for some political acolytes. Very interesting success of retrospect.

Gah, bad post. These uninvolved people’s eyes opened with Chris M.’s rant. Passing it along, that’s my goal.

92 CuriousLurker  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:45:06pm

Well, since the GOP has gone full on birther/TP, I guess I should go ahead and distribute the new logo I created for them a few months ago.

GOTP Logo
GOTP Logo - Real Americans™

93 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:45:59pm

Ugh. I should probably stop searching. I’m getting pissed off. If I was a contributor to the ACLU I’d sure have a word with them.

94 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:46:48pm

re: #92 CuriousLurker

Well, since the GOP has gone full on birther/TP, I guess I should go ahead and distribute the new logo I created for them a few months ago.

GOTP Logo
GOTP Logo - Real Americans™

Cool. I like it.

95 darthstar  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:46:50pm

re: #93 Gus 802

Ugh. I should probably stop searching. I’m getting pissed off. If I was a contributor to the ACLU I’d sure have a word with them.

Just watch the Bocephus video I linked…

96 CuriousLurker  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:47:05pm

re: #93 Gus 802

Ugh. I should probably stop searching. I’m getting pissed off. If I was a contributor to the ACLU I’d sure have a word with them.

Yeah, I googled myself into a bad mood earlier today looking for something.

97 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:47:19pm

re: #93 Gus 802

Ugh. I should probably stop searching. I’m getting pissed off. If I was a contributor to the ACLU I’d sure have a word with them.

my answer to all of it…
uhaweb.hartford.edu

98 theheat  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:47:29pm

re: #92 CuriousLurker

Excellent. But I have to admit, when I see GOTP? I wonder if maybe we’re low on toilet paper. My mind adds that extra T. Then I get all practical and think about the next COSTCO run.

99 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:47:52pm

re: #85 zora

if you live in a rural area ( wild animals,police far away) or dangerous area (police close but may not be coming anytime soon), possibly not physically strong, a defender of you and yours… what would you suggest for protection from intruders, predators, wild animals and the like?

Pretty much anybody can handle a .30 carbine M1. It was designed to replace the Colt 1911 pistol and I can fire mine one-handed. Load up with round nose softpoints and add on a M4 bayonet and you’re ready to deal with most threats except for very large aggressive animals like brown bears, moose, or elk.

100 jaunte  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:48:10pm

re: #79 Gus 802


In these cases, this Court applied an objective test and upheld the
defendants’ convictions under that standard. However, even under the subjective
standard, these defendants could have been convicted. In these cases, “any attempt
by the defendant to explain the intent of his communication as non-threatening
would most likely be laughable and unbelievable. Only in cases at the proverbial
margin, where the line between protected idea and punishable threat is more thinly sliced, will the application of the specific intent to threaten standard potentially
lead to a different outcome than if an objective test were applied.” Crane, 92 Va.
L. Rev. at 1274. “In those close-call situations, however, it is much better to let the ‘crafty criminal’ go free than to imprison the innocent speaker whose words
unintentionally seemed threatening to a ‘reasonable person.’
Otherwise, speech, especially at the fringe, will be unnecessarily chilled.” Id. at 1276.


One of the interesting features of that brief: They have a lot of examples of threats clearly meant to be threats, but a representative example of a ‘close-call’ situation, where protected free speech might be wrongfully punished, is missing.

101 Decatur Deb  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:48:29pm

re: #97 albusteve

my answer to all of it…
[Link: uhaweb.hartford.edu…]

Nice bridge, but there’s a car in the way.

102 Stanley Sea  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:48:30pm

re: #97 albusteve

my answer to all of it…
[Link: uhaweb.hartford.edu…]

You are probably right. We just feel the need to monitor & educate.

Ni i i c e pix

103 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:48:59pm

re: #99 goddamnedfrank

Pretty much anybody can handle a .30 carbine M1. It was designed to replace the Colt 1911 pistol and I can fire mine one-handed. Load up with round nose softpoints and add on a M4 bayonet and you’re ready to deal with most threats except for very large aggressive animals like brown bears, moose, or elk.

And according to the Zombie Survival Guide, the best firearm for dealing with the living dead.

104 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:49:19pm

re: #101 Decatur Deb

Nice bridge, but there’s a car in the way.

dude!

105 CuriousLurker  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:49:41pm

re: #98 theheat

Excellent. But I have to admit, when I see GOTP? I wonder if maybe we’re low on toilet paper. My mind adds that extra T. Then I get all practical and think about the next COSTCO run.

LOL, that’s the thing with designing logos, you never know what people will see! It can get seriously embarrassing sometimes!

106 CuriousLurker  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:50:13pm

re: #104 albusteve

dude!

*snort*

107 darthstar  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:50:40pm

I just like this old fucker and his music, so enjoy.

108 theheat  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:50:51pm

re: #103 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And according to the Zombie Survival Guide, the best firearm for dealing with the living dead.

But the most common weapon used, moviewise, has been the Ithaca model 37. That’s what I have. Because I’m a wimp. And I like zombie movies.

109 theheat  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:53:22pm

re: #105 CuriousLurker

LOL, that’s the thing with designing logos, you never know what people will see! It can get seriously embarrassing sometimes!

Just promise me you’ll never integrate the Bleeding Cowboys font to look “edgy.” Ugh. Next to Comic Sans, it sends me into fits.

110 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:55:42pm

re: #107 darthstar

I just like this old fucker and his music, so enjoy.

[Video]

Delbert McClinton - Why Me?

111 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:57:00pm

re: #103 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And according to the Zombie Survival Guide, the best firearm for dealing with the living dead.

Really? I didn’t know that. Kind of makes sense though since the carbine sacrifices range and power to maximize capacity and ease of use.

112 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:57:08pm

re: #110 Gus 802

Delbert McClinton - Why Me?

[Video]

how DARE you?….good stuff

113 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:57:29pm

re: #92 CuriousLurker

Well, since the GOP has gone full on birther/TP, I guess I should go ahead and distribute the new logo I created for them a few months ago.

GOTP Logo
GOTP Logo - Real Americans™

I like it!

114 Political Atheist  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:57:30pm

re: #15 Charles

Bill White is the reason I own a Mossberg.

A wise choice in an unfortunate circumstance. Blogging should just not be a dangerous enterprise.

115 CuriousLurker  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:58:24pm

re: #109 theheat

Just promise me you’ll never integrate the Bleeding Cowboys font to look “edgy.” Ugh. Next to Comic Sans, it sends me into fits.

Cross my heart.

Papyrus makes me twitch now too. It’s not that it’s an awful font, it’s just way overused (and misused). I used to adore Zapfino, but its misuse has sucked all the joy out of that one too.

116 jaunte  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:58:36pm

re: #109 theheat

Just promise me you’ll never integrate the Bleeding Cowboys font to look “edgy.” Ugh. Next to Comic Sans, it sends me into fits.

You should see Mike Lacher’s I’m Comic Sans rant:

When people need to kick back, have fun, and party, I will be there, unlike your pathetic fonts. While Gotham is at the science fair, I’m banging the prom queen behind the woodshop. While Avenir is practicing the clarinet, I’m shredding “Reign In Blood” on my double-necked Stratocaster. While Univers is refilling his allergy prescriptions, I’m racing my tricked-out, nitrous-laden Honda Civic against Tokyo gangsters who’ll kill me if I don’t cross the finish line first.
mcsweeneys.net
117 Robert O.  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:59:58pm

I just saw this video on my Facebook:

Oh…how I wish this was “only a stereotype”, as opposed to the scary reality that it is.

118 CuriousLurker  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 6:59:59pm

re: #116 jaunte

You should see Mike Lacher’s I’m Comic Sans rant:

ROFLMAO!!

119 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:00:25pm

re: #112 albusteve

how DARE you?…good stuff

Albert Lee does that song too.

120 jaunte  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:00:31pm

re: #118 CuriousLurker

Right, I didn’t think Papyrus hung out with him.

121 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:00:36pm

re: #40 prononymous

It’s interesting to learn just how many of us far-left libtards (or whatever) are armed. I guess the difference is the emotional need to advertise that fact.

It is mostly because we get laid regularly and don’t see guns as penis extensions. Teabags generally… well… c’mon, how much more of their overcompensations do you need to see?

122 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:00:37pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

Really? I didn’t know that. Kind of makes sense though since the carbine sacrifices range and power to maximize capacity and ease of use.

Yeah, it’s effective range is small enough that hitting a human-sized target in the head is easy, while you don’t really need all that much power with a headshot. Semi-auto fire means being able to dispatch multiple targets quickly, while firing from a box magazine reduces reload time.

123 theheat  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:01:09pm

re: #116 jaunte

I am a sans serif Superman and my only kryptonite is pretentious buzzkills like you.

It should be framed.

124 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:01:21pm

re: #38 jamesfirecat

///Young bucks!

///T-Bone steak!

Has anyone eaten a t-bone since 1988? It’s such an 80s cut.

125 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:01:27pm

re: #119 Gus 802

Albert Lee does that song too.

whoa….
Delbert

126 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:01:30pm

re: #121 LudwigVanQuixote

Left you some thoughts on the dead thread.
*smooch*

127 CuriousLurker  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:02:24pm

re: #120 jaunte

Right, I didn’t think Papyrus hung out with him.

Comic Sans: The Tea Party of fonts.

128 jaunte  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:02:35pm

re: #123 theheat

Set in Dom Casual.

129 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:04:29pm

re: #125 albusteve

whoa…
Delbert

[Video]

Not as big but you can see Eric Clapton listening and swaying at 3:19…

Crossroads Guitar Festival: Country Boy - Albert Lee and Vince Gill

130 theheat  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:04:29pm

re: #128 jaunte

I could take Times New Roman or even Helvetica. MS Sans Serif - anything but a cutesy font. Or a font failing miserably at being badass.

131 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:04:40pm

re: #126 Floral Giraffe

Left you some thoughts on the dead thread.
*smooch*

*smooch* right back baby…

132 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:05:20pm

Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

133 theheat  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:06:32pm

I need to check my bids on super important crap I don’t need in the first place @eBay. Later.

134 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:07:22pm

re: #129 Gus 802

Not as big but you can see Eric Clapton listening and swaying at 3:19…

Crossroads Guitar Festival: Country Boy - Albert Lee and Vince Gill

[Video]

yep…I’ve seen Albert 6-8 times all over hall’s half acre

135 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:08:00pm

re: #129 Gus 802

Not as big but you can see Eric Clapton listening and swaying at 3:19…

Crossroads Guitar Festival: Country Boy - Albert Lee and Vince Gill

[Video]

Instrumental version by David Hartley & John Stannard. With pedal steel. These guys are from the UK like Alvin Lee.

These guys are good. I just love the pedal steel…

136 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:08:02pm

re: #114 Rightwingconspirator

A wise choice in an unfortunate circumstance. Blogging should just not be a dangerous enterprise.

Unfortunately, the intertoobes seem to bring out the worst of the Cheeto eating, Mom’s basement living, can’t hold a job, want to be’s.

137 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:09:06pm

re: #134 albusteve

yep…I’ve seen Albert 6-8 times all over hall’s half acre

Chicken pickin’!

138 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:10:16pm

re: #137 Gus 802

Chicken pickin’!

after a while I become sort of numb

139 Ojoe  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:10:17pm

re: #40 prononymous

If you get the rifle merit badge, one of the things you learn is NOT to advertise the fact.

140 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:11:24pm

re: #138 albusteve

after a while I become sort of numb

I limit the amount of music I listen to. Didn’t used to be that way. Limiting it though keeps a lot of things fresh. Well, it does for me.

141 CuriousLurker  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:11:25pm

I’m out. TTYL, lizards.

142 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:12:25pm

re: #140 Gus 802

I limit the amount of music I listen to. Didn’t used to be that way. Limiting it though keeps a lot of things fresh. Well, it does for me.

yup

143 engineer cat  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:14:35pm

lolcat has spawned a new dialect - lolnutz

No, if it was a Muslim situation they would be calling for killing the people. They said the people who did the cartoon need to die. And the left still calls Christians and tea partiers who are the most patient and dont do crime they call them evil?

o hai. doan be eebill.

144 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:18:07pm

re: #92 CuriousLurker

Well, since the GOP has gone full on birther/TP, I guess I should go ahead and distribute the new logo I created for them a few months ago.

GOTP Logo
GOTP Logo - Real Americans™

Those are sweet! Now you have to be vigilant that you don’t get ripped off.

145 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:20:17pm

re: #140 Gus 802

I limit the amount of music I listen to. Didn’t used to be that way. Limiting it though keeps a lot of things fresh. Well, it does for me.

Guess that works, at least it’d keep me from getting songs stuck in my head. I’ve had “Still Alive” running through my head for over an hour now.

146 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:20:39pm

re: #72 albusteve

it’s not American, it’s Christian

Religious Crusader-style extremism mixed with paranoid independence, a history of southern strategy, gun culture


Yay! Perfect storm

147 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:21:58pm

re: #136 Floral Giraffe

Unfortunately, the intertoobes seem to bring out the worst of the Cheeto eating, Mom’s basement living, can’t hold a job, want to be’s.

Now now… last I checked…Chen Zen hold down important jobs by being 30 something sales creeps in big box electronic stores. Yes, he does live with his mom and all, but he has that spiffy izod like shirt for his uniform and he does an amazing job at alphabetizing the x-box games.

I am rather out of date… I haven’t checked over there in months. I’m sure my fans miss my attentions. I dunno, maybe they got bored of talking about me. That would be grand.

Folks like the Rodent are important computer guys at orange groves and they handle all sorts of fruit related programming.

Savage though is still an unemployed trucker but he doesn’t live with his mom (who he threatened to kill). He doesn’t post as much more since the inevitable breakup with his GF, and was kicked out by his meal ticket. It is hard to get internet connection from the back of his car. He always was real time abusive.

Douchebagua is “retired.”

Carolina Girl is trying to improve herself. She is going to night school to be a hick attorney and she really has some fascinating theories about the discovery process.

Princess Natasha is a very disturbed man.

Former Corpsman lives on disability. Apparently his massive moobs were sufficient to get him some of that government money he hats other people to have.

In fact, lots of them get lots of government money they hate other people having…

So yeah you are mostly right. But Chen is likely to eventually move out of his mom’s house. There was this embarrassing incident when she walked in on him giving himself some “attention” that is just a degrading thing for a thirty year old man boy to deal with. I think he will move out soon to crash on a buddy’s couch since his mom keeps joking about it.

148 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:21:59pm

re: #97 albusteve

zoom zoom


I want one o these someday: Image: hppp_0709_1970_trans_am_ram_air_1280x768.jpg

exactly that color, too, blue and white, and I’d name it Alice

149 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:23:00pm

Oh look! Youtube is suggesting that I listen to Lady Gaga… ummmm… ermmmm… nope. No can do. I’d rather listen to ABBA.

150 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:23:40pm

re: #149 Gus 802

Oh look! Youtube is suggesting that I listen to Lady Gaga… ummm… ermmm… nope. No can do. I’d rather listen to ABBA.

ABBA is worse. Just saying.

151 CuriousLurker  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:24:52pm

re: #144 Alouette

Those are sweet! Now you have to be vigilant that you don’t get ripped off.

Heh, thanks. Okay, here are my licensing terms: Anyone except actual Tea Party members, bigots, racists, religious fanatics, Islamophobes, anti-Semites, and other assorted haters & wingnuts may use it freely. ;o)

152 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:25:06pm

re: #150 LudwigVanQuixote

ABBA is worse. Just saying.

Worse! Yeah. Anywho, Lady Gaga. I don’t know if she sucks but damn. Talk about overcommercialized “music”.

153 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:26:00pm

re: #152 Gus 802

Worse! Yeah. Anywho, Lady Gaga. I don’t know if she sucks but damn. Talk about overcommercialized “music”.

Actually, have you checked with my fans recently? Do they still remember me fondly?

154 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:26:57pm

re: #153 LudwigVanQuixote

Actually, have you checked with my fans recently? Do they still remember me fondly?

puke me

155 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:27:05pm

re: #153 LudwigVanQuixote

Actually, have you checked with my fans recently? Do they still remember me fondly?

Nope. Haven’t looked in over a month. No interest. I’m done with that bullshit.

156 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:27:07pm

OOOPS edit error….

Now now… last I checked…Folks like Chen Zen hold down important jobs by being 30 something sales creeps in big box electronic stores. Yes, he does live with his mom and all, but he has that spiffy izod like shirt for his uniform and he does an amazing job at alphabetizing the x-box games.

I am rather out of date… I haven’t checked over there in months. I’m sure my fans miss my attentions. I dunno, maybe they got bored of talking about me. That would be grand.

Folks like the Rodent are important computer guys at orange groves and they handle all sorts of fruit related programming.

Savage though is still an unemployed trucker but he doesn’t live with his mom (who he threatened to kill). He doesn’t post as much more since the inevitable breakup with his GF, and was kicked out by his meal ticket. It is hard to get internet connection from the back of his car. He always was real time abusive.

Douchebagua is “retired.”

Carolina Girl is trying to improve herself. She is going to night school to be a hick attorney and she really has some fascinating theories about the discovery process.

Princess Natasha is a very disturbed man.

Former Corpsman lives on disability. Apparently his massive moobs were sufficient to get him some of that government money he hats other people to have.

In fact, lots of them get lots of government money they hate other people having…

So yeah you are mostly right. But Chen is likely to eventually move out of his mom’s house. There was this embarrassing incident when she walked in on him giving himself some “attention” that is just a degrading thing for a thirty year old man boy to deal with. I think he will move out soon to crash on a buddy’s couch since his mom keeps joking about it.

157 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:27:21pm

re: #153 LudwigVanQuixote

Actually, have you checked with my fans recently? Do they still remember me fondly?

Who did you say you are?
//

158 zora  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:27:29pm

re: #107 darthstar

for anybody who hasn’t discovered it yet groveshark.com is like pandora with a library and playlist capability. i use the free version and i love it.

159 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:27:48pm

re: #155 Gus 802

Nope. Haven’t looked in over a month. No interest. I’m done with that bullshit.

Whatever will they do? If a douche whines in the woods and no one listens, is he still a used hygiene product?

160 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:28:20pm

re: #147 LudwigVanQuixote

LOL!
My “fan” seems to have gotten the message, finally.
You are the best, Sir.

161 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:28:24pm

re: #157 researchok

Who did you say you are?
//

Now now that is funny…

I know they used to love me… but somehow, I can’t be bothered to look.

162 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:28:58pm

re: #156 LudwigVanQuixote

You didn’t have to repeat that. I still don’t care about the Diarrhea of Dead Louse.

163 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:29:05pm

re: #161 LudwigVanQuixote

Now now that is funny…

I know they used to love me… but somehow, I can’t be bothered to look.

You’ll survive.

I have great confidence in you.

164 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:29:31pm

re: #153 LudwigVanQuixote

No, they are just so very boring in their predictability.
They will always love you & Charles.
In their own deficient ways!

165 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:30:27pm

re: #160 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
My “fan” seems to have gotten the message, finally.
You are the best, Sir.

re: #160 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
My “fan” seems to have gotten the message, finally.
You are the best, Sir.

I exist to serve darling. I am very glad that “fan” disappeared. You are much better off.

166 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:30:28pm

re: #159 LudwigVanQuixote

Whatever will they do? If a douche whines in the woods and no one listens, is he still a used hygiene product?

He Tweets me every so often. Says some weird bullshit as usual. I responded yesterday but then deleted all of those Tweets. I don’t want to pollute my Tweet feed with that crap. He Tweeted me over 6 times one day. Seriously don’t want to go there anymore. The whole thing has been one strange childish trip.

167 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:30:31pm

re: #161 LudwigVanQuixote

Now now that is funny…

I know they used to love me… but somehow, I can’t be bothered to look.

yes you can…you don’t fool everyone

168 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:30:42pm

Chris Matthews reminds me of every dumbshit character that the great Fred Willard has ever played.

Maybe you also see a resemblance:

Chris Matthews Himself

And now here’s Fred Willard — incidentally the only thing I can think of when I see Chris Matthews:

169 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:31:03pm

re: #162 Alouette

You didn’t have to repeat that. I still don’t care about the Diarrhea of Dead Louse.

Ohhh darn mom… looks down… you managed to guilt me through the intertubes… Damn you are good.

170 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:31:52pm

re: #167 albusteve

yes you can…you don’t fool everyone

No I really don’t. But thanks for playing. Bored tonight? Are you that in need of a spat?

Well look elsewhere.

171 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:32:35pm

And I don’t want to instigate them either. If I do I’m partly responsible. I admit I’ve had a few too many drinks some nights and have said things just to piss them off and it worked. But then it become a viscous cycle.

172 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:34:14pm

re: #171 Gus 802

And I don’t want to instigate them either. If I do I’m partly responsible. I admit I’ve had a few too many drinks some nights and have said things just to piss them off and it worked. But then it become a viscous cycle.

I heard when you have a few too many you admit to being related to Palin.
//

173 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:34:23pm

re: #170 LudwigVanQuixote

No I really don’t. But thanks for playing. Bored tonight? Are you that in need of a spat?

Well look elsewhere.

are you trying to convince these nerds that you don’t crave attention?…hahahaha!
please

174 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:35:01pm

re: #172 researchok

When I have a few too many I’m related to Jerry Brown.

175 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:35:04pm

re: #169 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohhh darn mom… looks down… you managed to guilt me through the intertubes… Damn you are good.

Ludishka, did you remember to bench sefirah?

176 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:35:19pm

re: #174 researchok

And Dennis Kucinich.

177 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:35:25pm

re: #171 Gus 802

And I don’t want to instigate them either. If I do I’m partly responsible. I admit I’ve had a few too many drinks some nights and have said things just to piss them off and it worked. But then it become a viscous cycle.

The thought of them existing out there spinning their wheels endlessly imagining we care about them other than objects of scorn and disgust - if we can be bothered- sometimes amuses me. They live in such meaningless pathetic emptiness.

I got bored with them.

178 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:35:30pm

re: #172 researchok

I heard when you have a few too many you admit to being related to Palin.
//

You mean those morning’s when I get up on the wrong side of the bed futon?

179 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:35:52pm

re: #175 Alouette

Ludishka, did you remember to bench sefirah?

LOL yes I did!

180 dell*nix  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:36:14pm

re: #177 LudwigVanQuixote

Then why do you talk about them so much?

181 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:36:18pm

re: #178 Gus 802

You mean those morning’s when I get up on the wrong side of the bed futon?

No, on the right side of the futon.

182 Interesting Times  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:36:37pm

re: #171 Gus 802

And I don’t want to instigate them either. If I do I’m partly responsible. I admit I’ve had a few too many drinks some nights and have said things just to piss them off and it worked. But then it become a viscous cycle.

Exactly - “engage and enrage”. Not a worthwhile pursuit. The one time I read the place in depth (during the whole RP brouhaha, because I was trying to figure out what the heck was going on), it felt like being presented with a rotting, bloated corpse, its split-open gut teeming with maggots as lively as the corpse was not.

I’d prefer not to repeat said experience.

183 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:36:49pm

OT. Never thought a sprig of mint would do so much for a chicken salad!

184 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:36:56pm

re: #180 dell*nix

Then why do you talk about them so much?

You kidding me? First time I’ve talked about them in months and someone else brought them up. But you raise a good point.

185 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:37:09pm

re: #180 dell*nix

Then why do you talk about them so much?

because they talk about him….it’s symbiotic, like plankton

186 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:37:35pm

re: #177 LudwigVanQuixote

The thought of them existing out there spinning their wheels endlessly imagining we care about them other than objects of scorn and disgust - if we can be bothered- sometimes amuses me. They live in such meaningless pathetic emptiness.

I got bored with them.

The rats on treadmill is a quite accurate description.

Really.

187 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:37:52pm

re: #182 publicityStunted

Exactly - “engage and enrage”. Not a worthwhile pursuit. The one time I read the place in depth (during the whole RP brouhaha, because I was trying to figure out what the heck was going on), it felt like being presented with a rotting, bloated corpse, its split-open gut teeming with maggots as lively as the corpse was not.

I’d prefer not to repeat said experience.

Whew. That sure was strange. I don’t even want to think about it.

188 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:38:04pm

re: #184 LudwigVanQuixote

You kidding me? First time I’ve talked about them in months and someone else brought them up. But you raise a good point.

then consider it….we don’t need your glorification with the stalkers

189 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:38:07pm

re: #150 LudwigVanQuixote

ABBA is worse. Just saying.

I like ABBA :(

190 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:38:21pm

re: #186 researchok

Bunch of boring haters.
Not smart enough to be rats.
No lives of their own.

191 freetoken  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:39:19pm

Nice selection of Featured Pages today, both in variety and content.

192 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:39:21pm

re: #189 WindUpBird

the production of ABBA songs, the songwriting craft, is beyond good, it’s transcendently good

I mean, it ain’t like I’m cranking ABBA all the time, but they have some really really cool, intricate tunes

193 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:39:24pm

re: #189 WindUpBird

I like ABBA :(

no alto clarinet….that’s a plus

194 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:39:27pm

re: #188 albusteve

Four tries stevo and no bites… notice how I ignore you like them? Ohhh but it does amuse me that burns you up so much.

195 dell*nix  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:39:51pm

re: #184 LudwigVanQuixote

Then ignoring them completely should annoy them no end.

196 freetoken  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:40:16pm

Dinner: freshly picked loquats and a couple of squares of extra dark chocolate.

I doubt I’ll ever tire of it.

197 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:40:17pm

re: #190 Floral Giraffe

Bunch of boring haters.
Not smart enough to be rats.
No lives of their own.

Much truth in that.

They need the ‘other’ to find purpose (such as it is). Without the ‘other’ they have nothing.

198 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:40:48pm

re: #192 WindUpBird

the production of ABBA songs, the songwriting craft, is beyond good, it’s transcendently good

I mean, it ain’t like I’m cranking ABBA all the time, but they have some really really cool, intricate tunes

pretty much wrong….do they write? play musical instruments? produce?

199 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:40:49pm

re: #189 WindUpBird

I like ABBA :(

I used to hate them! I was one of those New Riders/Marshall Tucker/Allman Bros. types in the late 70s. It was required of me! Now, I think they’re rather entertaining.

200 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:40:58pm

re: #195 dell*nix

They obsessively read every single post here.
It’s beyond sick.
Daddy (Charles) has rejected them, and they can’t stand it.

201 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:41:25pm

re: #196 freetoken

Dinner: freshly picked loquats and a couple of squares of extra dark chocolate.

I doubt I’ll ever tire of it.

Nom nom nom!

202 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:42:05pm

re: #199 Gus 802

I used to hate them! I was one of those New Riders/Marshall Tucker/Allman Bros. types in the late 70s. It was required of me! Now, I think they’re rather entertaining.

I’ve really only been a fan for a few years, just sorta clicked

203 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:42:10pm

re: #194 LudwigVanQuixote

Four tries stevo and no bites… notice how I ignore you like them? Ohhh but it does amuse me that burns you up so much.

then why post this then claim you ignore me?
as usual

204 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:42:27pm

There are certainly worse bands than ABBA out there but I have to admit I winced when McCain said Dancing Queen was his favorite song of all time. I mean come on John. At least you guys who came of age in the 70’s didn’t have to deal with stuff like NSYNC and the Backstreet Boys. That was torture.

205 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:42:44pm

re: #189 WindUpBird

I like ABBA :(

Bah, humbug.

206 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:42:46pm

re: #200 Floral Giraffe

They obsessively read every single post here.
It’s beyond sick.
Daddy (Charles) has rejected them, and they can’t stand it.

Like the terrible twos, one long attention seeking tantrum.

No real substance.

207 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:42:59pm

re: #194 LudwigVanQuixote

Four tries stevo and no bites… notice how I ignore you like them? Ohhh but it does amuse me that burns you up so much.

I was going to comment about how he doesn’t understand symbiosis, or plankton. But then I remembered that discussing anything with him would be less fun than drilling holes in my head.

208 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:43:45pm

Seems that Hollywood’s ideas, like everything else in America, have been outsourced. I give you the trailer for Iron Sky, which features Nazis in Space!

209 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:43:58pm

re: #207 prononymous

I was going to comment about how he doesn’t understand symbiosis, or plankton. But then I remembered that discussing anything with him would be less fun than drilling holes in my head.

Your dentist must love you.
//

210 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:44:00pm

re: #195 dell*nix

Then ignoring them completely should annoy them no end.

Yeah prolly… but… when my friends are talking about them I do enjoy chiming in knowing they will read it, and have a melty I will likely never read.

On the other hand, you can look at it as a service to the mentally disabled. I give them meaning. Think about how hard it is to be Chen, knowing I know about how his mom jokes about his obsessive “self love.” That is really sad for a man his age.

I’m encouraging him to grow!

It’s even a mitzvah.

211 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:44:13pm

re: #207 prononymous

I was going to comment about how he doesn’t understand symbiosis, or plankton. But then I remembered that discussing anything with him would be less fun than drilling holes in my head.

not excellent, but pretty good…
I’m wounded

212 dell*nix  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:44:50pm

re: #200 Floral Giraffe

And no doubt pick over every mention. So total silence concerning them should be the worst kind of rejection.

213 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:44:52pm

re: #203 albusteve

then why post this then claim you ignore me?
as usual

I’m not exactly ignoring you stevo… I’m mocking you and refusing to get annoyed with you. There is a difference.

214 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:45:19pm

I think the one thing I’ve realized by going to parties over the past couple years is how conservative my music taste is relative to my peers. Not that I don’t enjoy modern music but my tastes are very folky and indy.

215 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:45:39pm

re: #210 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah prolly… but… when my friends are talking about them I do enjoy chiming in knowing they will read it, and have a melty I will likely never read.

On the other hand, you can look at it as a service to the mentally disabled. I give them meaning. Think about how hard it is to be Chen, knowing I know about how his mom jokes about his obsessive “self love.” That is really sad for a man his age.

I’m encouraging him to grow!

It’s even a mitzvah.

You mist have a shooting range target in another life.
/

216 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:46:05pm

re: #207 prononymous

I was going to comment about how he doesn’t understand symbiosis, or plankton. But then I remembered that discussing anything with him would be less fun than drilling holes in my head.

Pretty good… That shows a good bit of disdain. :)

217 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:46:10pm

I think I’ll just wait outside the door for now.

218 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:46:49pm

re: #210 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah prolly… but… when my friends are talking about them I do enjoy chiming in knowing they will read it, and have a melty I will likely never read.

On the other hand, you can look at it as a service to the mentally disabled. I give them meaning. Think about how hard it is to be Chen, knowing I know about how his mom jokes about his obsessive “self love.” That is really sad for a man his age.

I’m encouraging him to grow!

It’s even a mitzvah.

no you don’t…you feed a corrosive faction, that has a hard on for Charles, for your own benefit….then come here and bring it with you

219 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:46:50pm

re: #215 researchok

You mist have a shooting range target in another life.
/

Ohhh please research… that would imply they could do anything at all to hit me.

220 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:47:31pm

re: #217 b_sharp

I think I’ll just wait outside the door for now.

Nah its fine. I promise I will not be giving stevo the fight he is begging for.

221 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:47:33pm

re: #219 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohhh please research… that would imply they could do anything at all to hit me.

LOLOL

222 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:47:50pm

re: #210 LudwigVanQuixote

OK, think about playing on a blog, for a while.
Then getting banned.
Would YOU continue to read where you knew you weren’t wanted?
Obsess over it?
Really….

223 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:49:09pm

Heck. I probably already pissed off one of them with what I already said. Even when I take a passive stance. Whatever I guess.

224 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:49:36pm

re: #222 Floral Giraffe

OK, think about playing on a blog, for a while.
Then getting banned.
Would YOU continue to read where you knew you weren’t wanted?
Obsess over it?
Really…

No I wouldn’t.

But that might be because I have a family that loves me, a great fiancée, and a meaningful job I enjoy.

I do hope that Chen gets some alone time he knows is really private though for his sake.

225 albusteve  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:50:07pm

re: #220 LudwigVanQuixote

Nah its fine. I promise I will not be giving stevo the fight he is begging for.

then contribute to the whole instead of using LGF to proclaim your prowess with the stalkers

226 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:50:11pm

re: #222 Floral Giraffe

OK, think about playing on a blog, for a while.
Then getting banned.
Would YOU continue to read where you knew you weren’t wanted?
Obsess over it?
Really…

Immutable Rule: Any pathology left untreated, escalates.

They are way past the point of rational reasoning.

It’s called obsession. The longer it goes on, the worse it gets.

Seriously.

227 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:50:17pm

re: #221 researchok

LOLOL

Remember, it is their impotence that drives them.

228 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:50:38pm

I feel all left out.

I don’t have any stalkers. Not even apprentice ones.

229 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:50:41pm

re: #224 LudwigVanQuixote

Or maybe some psychological help.

230 freetoken  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:50:42pm

re: #222 Floral Giraffe


Really…

really needy people, they are.

I don’t need nuttin’ but muh loquats.


and a little bit of chocolate.

231 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:51:26pm

re: #228 b_sharp

I feel all left out.

I don’t have any stalkers. Not even apprentice ones.

Be grateful.
Ask Charles & LVQ how “lovely” they are.
*spits*

232 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:51:31pm

re: #226 researchok

Immutable Rule: Any pathology left untreated, escalates.

They are way past the point of rational reasoning.

It’s called obsession. The longer it goes on, the worse it gets.

Seriously.

Positive feedback loops can be a bitch.

233 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:52:02pm

I yam what I yam!Peter Fonda

234 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:52:08pm

re: #230 freetoken

LOL!
Got Kiwi’s too?

235 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:52:19pm

re: #216 LudwigVanQuixote

Pretty good… That shows a good bit of disdain. :)

It’s not really disdain as much as a realization how futile of an exercise it is. Be so sarcastic all the time and fail to explain your position or use it as a way to get into arguments and I’ll simply start taking all your statements at face value without the questionable “benefit” of further elucidation.

236 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:52:21pm

re: #226 researchok

Immutable Rule: Any pathology left untreated, escalates.

They are way past the point of rational reasoning.

It’s called obsession. The longer it goes on, the worse it gets.

Seriously.

Well it’s been going on now for five years in some cases. I wonder how bad that must be. Seriously. You know your stuff. Could you opine?

Am I correct about the whole overcompensation for impotence thing. I don’t necessarily mean impotent as in sexually incapable of erection, but rather, impotent as in meaningless and completely irrelevant to all events, while furiously imagining they mean something to someone.

237 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:52:34pm

Minor Spoiler warning:
Portal 2: Smooth Jazz Deployed

238 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:52:36pm

re: #227 LudwigVanQuixote

Remember, it is their impotence that drives them.

Actually, that is true in more ways than one.

To be a victim requires the admission that he or she is inferior.

239 Interesting Times  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:52:56pm

re: #220 LudwigVanQuixote

Nah its fine.

Good, then I’ll change the subject ;)

Are you familiar with what goes into the Palmer Drought Index? I’ve been doing a bit of reading on it, but I can’t figure out how to translate the numbers on its scale to an actual event - i.e. a reading below -4 is considered “extreme drought”, and some AGW models are predicting readings as low as -20(!) in many regions by 2070-onwards.

What does this mean in actual terms, like rainfall? -4 means no rain for months, while -20 means no rain for years? I want to turn the numbers into something the average person could relate to…

240 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:53:01pm

re: #231 Floral Giraffe

Be grateful.
Ask Charles & LVQ how “lovely” they are.
*spits*

But you guys have virtual pets you’ve taught to sit, stay and roll over. All I have is my pet rock.

241 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:53:18pm

re: #238 researchok

Actually, that is true in more ways than one.

To be a victim requires the admission that he or she is inferior.

Quoted for truth.

242 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:53:33pm

re: #228 b_sharp

I feel all left out.

I don’t have any stalkers. Not even apprentice ones.

Well you just need to make more pages man. They will read them obsessively and sine you are rational, they will hate you for it.

243 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:55:47pm

re: #240 b_sharp

I’ve got a Chia Pet of BA from the A team!
LOL!

244 freetoken  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:57:55pm

re: #234 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
Got Kiwi’s too?

I don’t know of anyone around here who grows them. I suppose since the coastal areas are frost free that they could be grown, but I’ve never known anyone since I’ve lived here in San Diego (nearly all my adult life) who grows them.

Loquats OTOH are used commonly throughout SD as a landscape plant.

I just wished that local citrus growers would try growing some of the better Japanese varieties of mandarin orange hybrids. My favorite in Japan (and still my favorite fruit, though I’ve tasted any in 4 years), is the variety called “Shirame” - gustatory heaven it is.

245 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:58:25pm

re: #237 Killgore Trout

Minor Spoiler warning:
Portal 2: Smooth Jazz Deployed

[Video]

“Okay look, we both said a lot of things that you are going to regret. But I think we should put our differences behind us. For science. You monster. “

246 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:58:54pm

re: #242 LudwigVanQuixote

Well you just need to make more pages man. They will read them obsessively and sine you are rational, they will hate you for it.

Pfft, and I thought you were the math whiz around here. ///

247 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:59:31pm

re: #239 publicityStunted

Good, then I’ll change the subject ;)

Are you familiar with what goes into the Palmer Drought Index? I’ve been doing a bit of reading on it, but I can’t figure out how to translate the numbers on its scale to an actual event - i.e. a reading below -4 is considered “extreme drought”, and some AGW models are predicting readings as low as -20(!) in many regions by 2070-onwards.

What does this mean in actual terms, like rainfall? -4 means no rain for months, while -20 means no rain for years? I want to turn the numbers into something the average person could relate to…

A whole bunch of things go into it. There is a rather complicated formula that is designed to give a dimensionless number. The issue with dimensionless numbers is that you really need to have the formula in front of you and play with it in your head to see what the number means.

So an image like this is really a bunch of meaningless colors without the math.

Image: palmer.gif

Therefore… you need to look at this:

npwrc.usgs.gov

248 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:59:51pm

re: #236 LudwigVanQuixote

Well it’s been going on now for five years in some cases. I wonder how bad that must be. Seriously. You know your stuff. Could you opine?

Am I correct about the whole overcompensation for impotence thing. I don’t necessarily mean impotent as in sexually incapable of erection, but rather, impotent as in meaningless and completely irrelevant to all events, while furiously imagining they mean something to someone.

Well, you can’t diagnose from a distance. That said, observations can be pretty enlightening.

Overcompensation is a bit more complicated, but let me put some perceptive on the plate, using the Palestinians (a failed society/culture) as an example.

On the one hand, they claim to be poor, noble and righteous abused victims- and in the same breath, they admit to wanting to unleash all kinds evil and viciousness on everyone but those responsible for their plight (as in looking in the mirror).

The same applies to the stalkers. They must admit to being perpetual victims seeking justice and at the same time, they wish to abuse and mete out punishment. All they have to do is walk away and ignore the source of their discomfort, but they can’t. They escalate their pathologies all by themselves.

Just like the Palestinians.

249 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 7:59:53pm

re: #246 prononymous

Pfft, and I thought you were the math whiz around here. ///

well since was what I was going for… my typing is not so grand.

250 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:00:01pm

re: #246 prononymous

Pfft, and I thought you were the math whiz around here. ///

It’s obvious LVQ is obsessed with Trig.

251 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:00:45pm

re: #249 LudwigVanQuixote

well since was what I was going for… my typing is not so grand.

I understood. Just a chance to rib you a bit. ;)

252 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:01:58pm

re: #200 Floral Giraffe

The fan club!

I don’t talk about the fan club much, but that’s what they are.

it’s sorta like pro-wrestling, but in reverse, they’ve created a narrative of anger in their heads, and that’s important to them, so they watch every post, obsess over every poster. Some of those guys are pretty bright, really bright! Isn’t there a guy writing software just to track comments here? Pretty dedicated and impressive in a bizarro sense. but smart people get addicted to opiates and distracted by things of little consequence. Smart people…well, we all ain’t as smart as we thinks we is.

Much like how people live vicariously through rock stars or sports figures, and get worked up to the point of screaming over a baseball game.

We’re their pro wrestling, we’re their sports contest. because they have all this emotional investment over the place that kicked them out. They’re still all 9/11 Never Forget Get The Muslims War Of Civilizations, they came to LGf because they were those people. And then LGF moved on. They stayed the same, because they’re tribalist conservatives and 9/11 fetishists and LGF became an unambiguously hostile environment to them, their comraderie was disintegrating. They claim ownership over a thing which never belonged to them. it’s a Blog. it’s not your home. Not mine. it’s a guy’s blog, andf we’re all guests.

Every seen guys who are fans of a band, then the band changes direction and the fans get furious, because they believe they’re owed a specific kind of music from the band? because they were LOYAL dammit, and you gotta play the music we got into you for!

Anyway, that’s those guys. And they’re not unusual. This schism thing, it’s always happening, every day. I’ve been on dozens of different online communities, since the 80’s. GEnie, Prodigy, Compuserve, pro8Star in seattle, Atari ST boards, C64 warez boards. I ran a blog from about 2002 on, for years. Had many many flamewars. And I’ve seen this happen a dozen times. A hundred times.

Schisms are easy on the internet. It’s impersonal! Nobody sees you.They happen constantly, people choose sides, they make weak-ass threats, they spy on each other, they get fired up, they goad each other on, they do little weak-sauce hacking attempts, they pull their dicks in anticipation of the next big event or the next bon mot that stokes their anger.

They actually act a lot like I used to, when I was part of one of these schisms. I was just as mad at the other Group, I had my friends, we had our enclave, we sniped, we bitched, we acted like kids.

And then i moved on, because getting into dumbass pissing matches and setting up ramparts and making some anonymous internet community your HATED ENEMY? Well, guys! That is not going to make you money, or get you a career, or make you happy, or increase your skills, or your knowledge, or anything. it’s like having a penpal you hate, but spend your life writing to.

If you spent your emotional energy bitching about a blogger who kicked you off his site, and spying on his commenters, and claiming they’re not really Jews or you want to kick the ass of someone you’ve never met, and wouldn’t know if they were standing next to you? you’re wasting your energy. That’s all it is. Waste.

And that’s probably the last thing I’ll say about those dudes for a while. I know their type. I used to be that type. I won’t lie, I peek over there. And one of the reasons I peek over there every so often is because I’m fascinated by how much some of them sounded like me and my friends , many years ago, from BBSes to twitter to facebook. I got out, and I’m a lot happier. No more usenet wars. No more wordpress skirmishes. No more BBS screaming matches. Instead of angrily spying on my enemies, I play guitar or draw pictures instead. Much more satisfying.


And that’s all I got to say. :)

253 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:02:09pm

re: #250 b_sharp

It’s obvious LVQ is obsessed with Trig.

OUCH! Wait… man it’s algebra man, algebra I’m obsessed with :)

Well that and differential geometry, modular forms and topology… also Ratner’s theorems on unipotent flows….

254 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:02:33pm

re: #251 prononymous

I understood. Just a chance to rib you a bit. ;)

All good!

255 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:02:58pm

re: #248 researchok

Well, you can’t diagnose from a distance. That said, observations can be pretty enlightening.

Overcompensation is a bit more complicated, but let me put some perceptive on the plate, using the Palestinians (a failed society/culture) as an example.

On the one hand, they claim to be poor, noble and righteous abused victims- and in the same breath, they admit to wanting to unleash all kinds evil and viciousness on everyone but those responsible for their plight (as in looking in the mirror).

The same applies to the stalkers. They must admit to being perpetual victims seeking justice and at the same time, they wish to abuse and mete out punishment. All they have to do is walk away and ignore the source of their discomfort, but they can’t. They escalate their pathologies all by themselves.

Just like the Palestinians.

We should probably all meet on the Jerry Springer Show.

//

256 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:03:43pm

re: #255 Gus 802

We should probably all meet on the Jerry Springer Show.

//

Maybe Geraldo will show up.

257 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:04:05pm

re: #248 researchok

Well, you can’t diagnose from a distance. That said, observations can be pretty enlightening.

Overcompensation is a bit more complicated, but let me put some perceptive on the plate, using the Palestinians (a failed society/culture) as an example.

On the one hand, they claim to be poor, noble and righteous abused victims- and in the same breath, they admit to wanting to unleash all kinds evil and viciousness on everyone but those responsible for their plight (as in looking in the mirror).

The same applies to the stalkers. They must admit to being perpetual victims seeking justice and at the same time, they wish to abuse and mete out punishment. All they have to do is walk away and ignore the source of their discomfort, but they can’t. They escalate their pathologies all by themselves.

Just like the Palestinians.

Damn! That is good!

258 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:04:09pm

re: #256 researchok

Maybe Geraldo will show up.

We’d all punch him in the nose.

//

259 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:04:49pm

re: #245 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

“Okay look, we both said a lot of things that you are going to regret. But I think we should put our differences behind us. For science. You monster. “

I’m very impressed with the game so far. They kept the original spirit and humor as well as adding new features. The early puzzles are easy but today I finally hit one I can’t figure out. Very good game.

260 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:04:55pm

re: #248 researchok

And by the way, like the Palestinians, the stalkers believe in the sanctity and righteousness of their ‘cause’.

261 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:04:56pm

re: #258 Gus 802

We’d all punch him in the nose.

//

Then watch a wave knock him on his ass.

262 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:05:46pm

re: #261 Varek Raith

Then watch a wave knock him on his ass.

And then get pinned down by an old Chicago safe.

263 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:05:52pm

re: #248 researchok

see my 252, I think comparing palestinians to an internet community schism is a little nuts. it’s more like a church that split up.

Otherwise I’d be a Palestinian a hundred times over, lol

264 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:06:17pm

BREAKING: Sources close to Rick Perry claim that next week will be state-wide Magic Lamp Rubbing Week.

265 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:07:13pm

and if you’re comparing then to Palestinians?

CONGRATULATIONS, YOU JUST FELL INTO THE SAME DRAMA-LLAMA-DING-DONG TRAP WITH THEM. ENJOY YOUR NEW COMPANY!


can’t make that point stronger if I spiked my mouse like a football

266 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:07:32pm

re: #264 negativ

hassan chop!

267 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:08:22pm

re: #264 negativ

BREAKING: Sources close to Rick Perry claim that next week will be state-wide Magic Lamp Rubbing Week.

Due to typos Phallic Lump Rubbing week has been canceled.

268 zora  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:08:32pm

glen beck called huckabee a progressive and thems fighting words. so…


“This week Glenn Beck has taken to his radio show to attack me as a progressive, which he has said is the same as a ‘cancer’ and a ‘Nazi,’” Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor whose own battles with his weight are well known, wrote on his HuckPAC website. “What did I do that apparently caused him to link me to a fatal disease and a form of government that murdered millions of innocent Jews?

“I had the audacity — not of hope — but the audacity to give respect to the efforts of first lady Michelle Obama’s Let’s Move campaign to address childhood obesity,” Huckabee fumed. “I’m no fan of her husband’s policies for sure, but I have appreciated her efforts that Beck misrepresented — either out of ignorance or out of a deliberate attempt to distort them to create yet another ‘boogey man’ hiding in the closet that he and only he can see.

huckabee could get the nomination for common sense alone. just saying things like. “america is too fat. it’s not a conspiracy.” puts him a the top of the short list.


Read more: politico.com

269 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:08:46pm

re: #263 WindUpBird

see my 252, I think comparing palestinians to an internet community schism is a little nuts. it’s more like a church that split up.

Otherwise I’d be a Palestinian a hundred times over, lol

Not at all.

You can be passionate about your cause or idea for sure. At times, you can be a stubborn ass (like the rest of us).

That said, you don’t want to hurt anyone, really nor do you wish them ill or evil.

You aren’t in same orbit.

270 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:09:03pm

re: #265 WindUpBird

and if you’re comparing then to Palestinians?

CONGRATULATIONS, YOU JUST FELL INTO THE SAME DRAMA-LLAMA-DING-DONG TRAP WITH THEM. ENJOY YOUR NEW COMPANY!

can’t make that point stronger if I spiked my mouse like a football

Dude… please chill a minute. Research was right on target in many more ways then you are considering at the moment.

271 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:09:22pm

re: #252 WindUpBird

LOL!
Pro Wrestling!
Perfect!
(And all totally faked!)

272 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:09:23pm

re: #265 WindUpBird

and if you’re comparing then to Palestinians?

CONGRATULATIONS, YOU JUST FELL INTO THE SAME DRAMA-LLAMA-DING-DONG TRAP WITH THEM. ENJOY YOUR NEW COMPANY!

can’t make that point stronger if I spiked my mouse like a football

Oh WUB.

273 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:09:24pm

re: #269 researchok

Not at all.

You can be passionate about your cause or idea for sure. At times, you can be a stubborn ass (like the rest of us).

That said, you don’t want to hurt anyone, really nor do you wish them ill or evil.

You aren’t in same orbit.

Indeed.

274 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:09:51pm

re: #255 Gus 802

We should probably all meet on the Jerry Springer Show.

//

Hurls a chair at Gus.

275 HoosierHoops  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:09:55pm

man..My Internet has been crashing for hours…
Sorry you guys missed all my solutions to the world’s problems..I’d repost but I forgot

276 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:10:11pm

re: #259 Killgore Trout

I’m very impressed with the game so far. They kept the original spirit and humor as well as adding new features. The early puzzles are easy but today I finally hit one I can’t figure out. Very good game.

Yeah, I’ve been checking out a Let’s Play on Youtube and it looks like a great deal of fun. Think I might grab a copy next Friday, just to try it out myself. You’re right about the spirit and humor, just the first few minutes alone had me laughing my ass off.

277 engineer cat  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:10:41pm

Shocker! Liberal Propogandists To Release “Socialist Bible”

in a move to promote their socialist share-the-wealth agenda, liberals are secretly preparing a version of the new testament that portrays jesus as highly sympathetic to society’s underclass, praising the poor and powerless, and providing assistance to the disabled. in a nod to their allies the IRS, the socialist bible even has jesus making friends with a tax collector! Also, showing a bent toward topical issues, the subversive bible attempts to gin up sympathy for european style socialist medicine by portraying jesus as healing the sick for free

but the most shocking part of this travesty comes when the mask is ripped off the liberal agenda to reveal the communist revolutionary underneath - jesus is actually made to promote class warfare and violent revolution, saying “the last shall be first” and “the meek shall inherit the earth”

we must insure that our vulnerable school children are never, ever, exposed to a portrayal of jesus acting and speaking in this un-american way!

278 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:10:52pm

re: #252 WindUpBird

by the way, furries are meaner than those stalker guys. Crazier than those stalker guys. 18 year old kids with shit to prove, who are twitchy geeks with low self-esteem? yeah.


Furries WILL beat each other up over internet crap. I saw a beat down at a con, over an online skirmish. I wish I was kidding. I’ve seen cops called, and people thrown out of convention hotels with blood on their face. I got into one yelling match in person over internet shit, and I was ready to fight. later I was like “what the fuck is wrong with me! I’m 130 pounds!” but I was that mad. Over nothing!

279 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:11:05pm

re: #274 Floral Giraffe

Hurls a chair at Gus.

Ladies and gentlemen… let’s bring out Gus 802…

Boooooo! Boooooo! Peronist! Prog! Why don’t you go piss in a soda bottle! God hater!

//

280 Interesting Times  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:11:21pm

re: #247 LudwigVanQuixote

So an image like this is really a bunch of meaningless colors without the math.

Image: palmer.gif

Therefore… you need to look at this:

[Link: www.npwrc.usgs.gov…]

But there’s no way I could distill that into a Twitter or Facebook comment :( Seriously, we’re talking about getting information to register with attention spans atrophied by the instant-gratification Internet. A simpler explanation is needed.

How about - severe drought in the -4 range is what’s happening in Texas now, where rain levels are XX % below normal, soil is XX % drier and reservoirs are XX % below capacity. -20 would mean (fill in blanks)

Does that make sense?

281 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:11:26pm

re: #279 Gus 802

Ladies and gentlemen… let’s bring out Gus 802…

Booo! Booo! Peronist! Prog! Why don’t you go piss in a soda bottle! God hater!

//

LOLOL

282 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:11:39pm

re: #270 LudwigVanQuixote

Can I just reiterate how much I adore you?
You’re the bestest!

283 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:11:59pm

re: #281 researchok

LOLOL

Heck. I’d make sure to wear my best bra.

//

284 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:12:07pm

re: #275 HoosierHoops

man..My Internet has been crashing for hours…
Sorry you guys missed all my solutions to the world’s problems..I’d repost but I forgot

Bummer.
How’s your Holy Thursday been?

285 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:12:46pm

re: #278 WindUpBird

by the way, furries are meaner than those stalker guys. Crazier than those stalker guys. 18 year old kids with shit to prove, who are twitchy geeks with low self-esteem? yeah.

Furries WILL beat each other up over internet crap. I saw a beat down at a con, over an online skirmish. I wish I was kidding. I’ve seen cops called, and people thrown out of convention hotels with blood on their face. I got into one yelling match in person over internet shit, and I was ready to fight. later I was like “what the fuck is wrong with me! I’m 130 pounds!” but I was that mad. Over nothing!

You’re 130 lbs? Crap, my head weighs more than that.

286 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:12:56pm

re: #279 Gus 802

Ladies and gentlemen… let’s bring out Gus 802…

Booo! Booo! Peronist! Prog! Why don’t you go piss in a soda bottle! God hater!

//

LOL!
Whacks Gus with a wet noodle.
Many times!

287 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:13:20pm

re: #286 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
Whacks Gus with a wet noodle.
Many times!

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

//

288 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:13:31pm

re: #275 HoosierHoops

man..My Internet has been crashing for hours…
Sorry you guys missed all my solutions to the world’s problems..I’d repost but I forgot

Dude you still rock!

289 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:13:31pm

re: #286 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
Whacks Gus with a wet noodle.
Many times!

See! I even engage in self-deprecating humor. ;)

290 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:13:32pm

re: #270 LudwigVanQuixote

Dude… please chill a minute. Research was right on target in many more ways then you are considering at the moment.

I just don’t agree, sorry.

252 is my opinion on the phenomenon, and comparing blog stuff we start from our computer desks to Palestine does not compute

if you escalate drama, then drama will escalate. it takes two. if you compare an argument to World Events, well, don’t be surprised when that argument takes up a gigantic looming apocalyptic silhouette in your mind.

it happened to me. And I had to stop. Almost like an addiction.

if you compare it to anything, compare it to drinking. or smoking. it’s a vice.

291 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:14:05pm

re: #283 Gus 802

Heck. I’d make sure to wear my best bra.

//

Twenty minutes with you and a shrink might agree to voluntary commitment.

292 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:14:12pm

Forget Rodan! It’s Walter that I’m after now.

//

293 HoosierHoops  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:14:22pm

re: #284 Floral Giraffe

Bummer.
How’s your Holy Thursday been?

Life is good again..even though Oklahoma pollen is just killing me.. Ahchoo!

294 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:14:45pm

re: #291 researchok

Twenty minutes with you and a shrink might agree to voluntary commitment.

And to think, we get to enjoy him for free. Truly, we are blessed.

///

295 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:14:51pm

re: #292 Gus 802

Careful, you might catch him.
And, wouldn’t that be NASTY!

296 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:15:25pm

re: #295 Floral Giraffe

Careful, you might catch him.
And, wouldn’t that be NASTY!

Yeah. I’d end up smelling like produce.

//

297 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:15:35pm

re: #293 HoosierHoops

Life is good again..even though Oklahoma pollen is just killing me.. Ahchoo!

Passes HH the klenenex box.
Feel better soon!

298 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:15:56pm

re: #280 publicityStunted

But there’s no way I could distill that into a Twitter or Facebook comment :( Seriously, we’re talking about getting information to register with attention spans atrophied by the instant-gratification Internet. A simpler explanation is needed.

How about - severe drought in the -4 range is what’s happening in Texas now, where rain levels are XX % below normal, soil is XX % drier and reservoirs are XX % below capacity. -20 would mean (fill in blanks)

Does that make sense?

It would, but it would require more source data to deconvolve the number to get the figures you want. I honestly don’t have the drought input data on hand. It is something you can get on the web however.

299 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:16:17pm

re: #296 Gus 802

Yeah. I’d end up smelling like produce.

//

Rotten week past it’s expiration date, produce.
ICK!

300 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:16:31pm

re: #285 b_sharp

You’re 130 lbs? Crap, my head weighs more than that.

At the time! I was 22? 24? And playing double kick drums hours a day in a metal band in Tukwila, so I looked like a scarecrow.

I think I’m 145 now, 5’11”. Twiggey!

301 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:16:32pm

re: #290 WindUpBird

I just don’t agree, sorry.

252 is my opinion on the phenomenon, and comparing blog stuff we start from our computer desks to Palestine does not compute

if you escalate drama, then drama will escalate. it takes two. if you compare an argument to World Events, well, don’t be surprised when that argument takes up a gigantic looming apocalyptic silhouette in your mind.

it happened to me. And I had to stop. Almost like an addiction.

if you compare it to anything, compare it to drinking. or smoking. it’s a vice.

Actually, most dysfunctional pathologies are escalated either in groups of people who isolate themselves or by an individual’s own obsessions.

302 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:16:49pm

re: #290 WindUpBird

You are so not reading the sub-context. I like you man… please, no offense, no attack, please just sit this one out.

303 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:17:13pm

re: #292 Gus 802

Forget Rodan! It’s Walter that I’m after now.

//

So… what the fuck do you want?

304 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:17:44pm

re: #303 Walter L. Newton

So… what the fuck do you want?

Your thighs.

//

305 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:18:09pm

re: #282 Floral Giraffe

Can I just reiterate how much I adore you?
You’re the bestest!

Right back at you sweetheart!

306 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:18:14pm

re: #304 Gus 802

Your thighs.

//

…not sure I like where this is going.

307 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:18:36pm

re: #304 Gus 802

Your thighs.

//

OMG LOL>>> CURSE YOU! MY MONITOR HATES YOU NOW!

308 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:18:51pm

re: #306 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

…not sure I like where this is going.

Nowhere. Just having some shots and trying to have fun.

309 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:18:52pm

re: #301 researchok

Actually, most dysfunctional pathologies are escalated either in groups of people who isolate themselves or by an individual’s own obsessions.

I see where you’re heading with this, and I sympathize, but I just don’t think it’s valuable to be comparing bitchy blog stuff to Real Things That Result In Real Horrors And Real Dead Children Being Blown Into Real Pieces of Real Flesh by Real People With Real Bombs Strapped to their Real Chests.


it’s sorta Godwin-ey, and it’s not useful

310 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:18:56pm

re: #302 LudwigVanQuixote

You are so not reading the sub-context. I like you man… please, no offense, no attack, please just sit this one out.

WUB means no malice.

311 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:19:07pm

re: #306 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

…not sure I like where this is going.

Please, that was the most genius burn I have seen on here in a very long time.

312 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:19:36pm

re: #304 Gus 802

Your thighs.

//

I was going to say his ass whipped red with stripes, but I am too much of a lady to post that in public.
I think.

313 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:19:38pm

re: #308 Gus 802

Nowhere. Just having some shots and trying to have fun.

Well… actually you’re wasting my time… like usual.

314 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:19:39pm

re: #300 WindUpBird

At the time! I was 22? 24? And playing double kick drums hours a day in a metal band in Tukwila, so I looked like a scarecrow.

I think I’m 145 now, 5’11”. Twiggey!

You’re downright chubby.

I’m a tad taller but a good 70lbs heavier. When I was in martial arts I was 178lbs, about 135lbs of that above the neck.

315 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:20:12pm

re: #313 Walter L. Newton

Well… actually you’re wasting my time… like usual.

But that’s not what you say in our email exchanges!

//

316 Single-handed sailor  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:20:25pm

here’s some fun music.

317 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:20:59pm

re: #310 researchok

WUB means no malice.

I know. I am honestly not even close to annoyed at him I promise. I just don’t know how to communicate with him that there exists a subcontext, that I really don’t want to explain.

WUB I am not trying to make you feel out, while we are the “cool kids” either. It isn’t like that. Just please, trust me on this?

318 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:21:06pm

re: #309 WindUpBird

I see where you’re heading with this, and I sympathize, but I just don’t think it’s valuable to be comparing bitchy blog stuff to Real Things That Result In Real Horrors And Real Dead Children Being Blown Into Real Pieces of Real Flesh by Real People With Real Bombs Strapped to their Real Chests.

it’s sorta Godwin-ey, and it’s not useful

No one has indicated there is a literal comparison.

The mechanisms involved however, are the same.

There are Ferrari’s and there are Trabants. The principals are the same.

319 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:21:47pm

re: #312 Floral Giraffe

I was going to say his ass whipped red with stripes, but I am too much of a lady to post that in public.
I think.

ouch baby… mmmm That would be leather on old leather. Be sure to use lots of turtle wax as a lubricant…

320 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:21:57pm

re: #314 b_sharp

You’re downright chubby.

I’m a tad taller but a good 70lbs heavier. When I was in martial arts I was 178lbs, about 135lbs of that above the neck.

Hurls a chair at b_sharp!

321 HoosierHoops  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:22:06pm

Crashed again…Cox Cable is having issues tonight

322 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:22:50pm

re: #320 Gus 802

Hurls a chair at b_sharp!

Thanks dude. I was tired of standing.

323 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:23:40pm

re: #319 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #320 Gus 802

re: #312 Floral Giraffe

And now we see the violence inherent in the system!

324 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:24:08pm

re: #323 LudwigVanQuixote

AND you will like it, Sir!

325 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:25:06pm

re: #324 Floral Giraffe

AND you will like it, Sir!

Now there’s a side I didn’t see…

//

326 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:25:20pm

Some people are phlegmatic, some highly strung. Some are anxious, others risk-seeking. Some are confident, others shy. Some are quiet, others loquacious. We call these differences personality… — Matt Ridley, Genome, 1999

327 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:26:10pm

re: #302 LudwigVanQuixote

You are so not reading the sub-context. I like you man… please, no offense, no attack, please just sit this one out.

Nope I’m not :)

Sorry dude. I know more about the way people behave in online communities than you. I ran them. I have run a blog that used to get 100 comments a thread, just like Charles. Built my own graphics for it and everything. had memes, had everything. Had a bit of a culture! That blog got over a thousand comments in a thread in…2004? 2005? When i was depe into my I Wanna Be A Blogger phase. From a fight! A thousand comments in 8 hours!

I’ve been on online communities for over 20 years. Pushing 25, since I got a modem for my Atari as a christmas present from my parents, and figured out through many sleeplessnights of calling every BBS in the back of ComputerUser magazine in Seattle, found all the smart people were hiding on a board called Cave Creek BBS in Seattle. Since it was a novelty. This is my expertise. This is how I make my living. I am part of online communities, I’m an artist that knows these people, and that’s how I make a middle class living. of this ALONE, I make my living. No day job. Just this.

I wouldn’t question you on science. That’s your expertise. This is mine. OH how this is mine.

I won’t engage in any matches with you (and really, i got a LOT of freelance to do, so I’m gonna take off) but I am more firm in my opinion about this than you can possibly understand. You have no dea how wrapped up in internet horseshit I used to be. I’m embarrased to talk about how wrapped up in it I was. it was stupid. Like being an alcoholic. I’ve lived it for so long it’s in my DNA. The patterns are *identical* They’re so similar that it’s like I’m seeing time go in reverse.

And now I’m gone, because my spidey sense senses a storm coming, later folks

328 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:26:37pm

re: #325 researchok

Now there’s a side I didn’t see…

//

You didn’t see? She is my coffee table. When not getting spanked…

The one thing the stalkerz really hate is D/s references.. All that power fantasy and the thought that other people might actually get to do it, is very difficult on them.

It’s an old discussion of Floral and mine.

329 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:27:52pm

re: #324 Floral Giraffe

AND you will like it, Sir!

Will I now? Honestly seeing the effects of a crop on a bottom as withered as Walter’s would likely make me very unaroused.

Yours on the other hand….

330 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:28:03pm

I shall get angry and down ding you!

On guard ye coward! Face my keen intellect with moral certitude and conviction! For you are now minutes from death by my diction, elocution and grammar!

//

331 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:28:19pm

re: #147 LudwigVanQuixote

Respectfully, but honestly, dear sir:

You seem to have misplaced your marbles.

Would that you could recall where last you left them.

332 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:28:57pm

re: #330 Gus 802

I shall get angry and down ding you!

On guard ye coward! Face my keen intellect with moral certitude and conviction! For you are now minutes from death by my diction, elocution and grammar!

//

And I shall be your Sanco Panza.

333 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:29:15pm

re: #331 negativ

Respectfully, but honestly, dear sir:

You seem to have misplaced your marbles.

Would that you could recall where last you left them.

156 corrects an editing error and reads better.

334 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:29:40pm

re: #332 researchok

And I shall be your Sanco Panza.

MMMM? *I* am the only quixote here….

335 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:30:25pm

Aha! The Machiavellian down ding by up ding procedure! Worse then enfilading fire by dramatica I might add!

//

336 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:30:33pm

You’re all nucking futz, so I’m going to go polish my nob.

337 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:30:40pm

Than

338 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:30:52pm

Did I somehow slip into a coma and just now come to in time for the FNDT?

339 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:31:07pm

re: #327 WindUpBird

Your experiences are not unexpected.

They come about as a result of the underlying pathology.

340 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:31:17pm

re: #336 b_sharp

You’re all nucking futz, so I’m going to go polish my nob.

Chen Zen? Your mom might be watching… you never know!

341 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:31:34pm

re: #325 researchok

Now there’s a side I didn’t see…

//

heh!

342 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:31:57pm

re: #338 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Did I somehow slip into a coma and just now come to in time for the FNDT?

It is a dash quixotic.

//

343 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:32:02pm

re: #334 LudwigVanQuixote

MMM? *I* am the only quixote here…

Take it up with Don Gus.
/

I wanna watch.

344 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:32:13pm

re: #329 LudwigVanQuixote

Will I now? Honestly seeing the effects of a crop on a bottom as withered as Walter’s would likely make me very unaroused.

Yours on the other hand…

LOL!
Please, Sir?

345 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:32:24pm

re: #341 Floral Giraffe

heh!

And it is such a lovely side….

mmm…

1…2…3…4…5…

repeat as needed…

346 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:32:28pm

re: #340 LudwigVanQuixote

Chen Zen? Your mom might be watching… you never know!

The ghost in the machine.

347 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:32:57pm

re: #344 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
Please, Sir?

See 345… not kidding either :)

348 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:32:58pm

‘Night all.

349 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:33:07pm

re: #346 b_sharp

The ghost in the machine.

LOL

350 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:33:12pm

re: #332 researchok

And I shall be your Sanco Panza.

Um it’s Sancho Panza, if you’re into spelling.
Nerd lady, here.

351 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:33:16pm

The hell is going on here?!?!
/

352 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:33:40pm

re: #351 Varek Raith

The hell is going on here?!?!
/

I don’t know, I just got here myself!

/

353 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:33:45pm

re: #350 Floral Giraffe

Um it’s Sancho Panza, if you’re into spelling.
Nerd lady, here.

Failed typist here

354 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:34:08pm

re: #338 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Did I somehow slip into a coma and just now come to in time for the FNDT?

Pass a beer, over here?
Better yet, a glass of white wine!

355 austin_blue  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:34:17pm

Good evening! Back from the UK on Monday, had a great time. Fifteen minutes of rain over 11 days? Priceless.

Work has been brutal the last three days. You have no idea how stupid the average Texas legislator can be. It’s as if little villages all over the State send their idiots to Austin every two years.

356 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:34:26pm

re: #351 Varek Raith

The hell is going on here?!?!
/

Floral has to give you a beating before you can be allowed to know.

357 McSpiff  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:34:46pm

re: #351 Varek Raith

The hell is going on here?!?!
/

I put on my robe and wizard hat…

358 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:35:26pm

re: #354 Floral Giraffe

Pass a beer, over here?
Better yet, a glass of white wine!

Never touched the stuff. I’ve never had anything stronger than sweet iced tea.

359 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:35:28pm

In some ways I agree with both WUB and Researchok. It does feel a little ridiculous to compare internet trolls and stalkers to people actively engaged in violence. But the other side to this is that I feel that most bad behavior by humans is the result of common forces such as hatred, greed, obsession, delusion, fantasy, ignorance, boredom etc. That most negative behaviors could be compared as simply relative amounts of these factors.

I don’t agree that untreated pathology always gets worse though, that’s not how it works. Most pathological organisms have evolved to not kill their host. Rather they try to feed off the host as much as possible while keeping them alive and healthy enough so they can continue to do so over an extended period of time.

360 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:35:36pm

re: #351 Varek Raith

The hell is going on here?!?!
/

We’re getting spankings!
And I like it!

361 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:36:33pm

re: #357 McSpiff

I put on my robe and wizard hat…

They told you it was a wizard hat?

Interesting….

Are you walking around in counter clockwise circles?

//

362 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:38:03pm

re: #361 researchok

They told you it was a wizard hat?

Interesting…

Are you walking around in counter clockwise circles?

//

Put on this belt.

363 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:38:30pm

re: #361 researchok

They told you it was a wizard hat?

Interesting…

Are you walking around in counter clockwise circles?

//

And, is it a DARK PURPLE hat?

364 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:39:26pm

Whew. Guess I climaxed.

//

365 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:39:39pm

re: #359 prononymous

In some ways I agree with both WUB and Researchok. It does feel a little ridiculous to compare internet trolls and stalkers to people actively engaged in violence. But the other side to this is that I feel that most bad behavior by humans is the result of common forces such as hatred, greed, obsession, delusion, fantasy, ignorance, boredom etc. That most negative behaviors could be compared as simply relative amounts of these factors.

I don’t agree that untreated pathology always gets worse though, that’s not how it works. Most pathological organisms have evolved to not kill their host. Rather they try to feed off the host as much as possible while keeping them alive and healthy enough so they can continue to do so over an extended period of time.

I do have some experience in the mental health business.

While I cannot speak to pathological organisms, I can speak to human psycho-pathologies. As a rule,left untreated, psycho-pathologies do escalate until the individual is rendered ‘broken’.

366 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:39:42pm

re: #358 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Never touched the stuff. I’ve never had anything stronger than sweet iced tea.

Seriously?

367 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:40:24pm

re: #364 Gus 802

Whew. Guess I climaxed.

//

Gus, the 1…2…3…4…5… was for Floral…not you!

//

368 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:41:03pm

re: #367 LudwigVanQuixote

Gus, the 1…2…3…4…5… was for Floral…not you!

//

Nope, I’m not touching that.

369 engineer cat  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:41:25pm

re: #319 LudwigVanQuixote

ouch baby… mmm That would be leather on old leather. Be sure to use lots of turtle wax as a lubricant…

no flirting!

370 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:41:36pm

re: #366 LudwigVanQuixote

Seriously?

Seriously. Just never felt a desire to, not even to try it.

371 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:41:39pm
372 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:41:46pm

O_o

373 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:42:25pm

re: #370 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Seriously. Just never felt a desire to, not even to try it.

Cool.

374 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:42:25pm

re: #372 Varek Raith

O_o

*Offers over a bottle of brain bleach* Want a swig? Or ten?

375 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:42:50pm

Nothing has happened yet in Libya today. Considering the things that have occurred in the past 48 hours, no news is good news.

376 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:43:04pm

re: #260 researchok

And by the way, like the Palestinians, the stalkers believe in the sanctity and righteousness of their ‘cause’.

Yes, but the Palestinians at least have an actual problem, regardless of how accurate their perception may be of what it is and whose responsibility it is.

The stalkers don’t have a problem. They don’t have a cause. They are dedicating alarming amounts of time to being annoyed by a blogger who cut off their posting privileges.

377 Targetpractice  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:43:23pm

re: #375 ProLifeLiberal

Nothing has happened yet in Libya today. Considering the things that have occurred in the past 48 hours, no news is good news.

Thought I’d heard that we were deploying armed Predator drones to perform precision strikes, ala Afghanistan?

378 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:43:27pm

re: #373 LudwigVanQuixote

Cool.

Same here. Never had a beer or alcohol in my life.
Nor smoked anything.

379 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:43:30pm

re: #368 researchok

Nope, I’m not touching that.

Brilliant pun.

380 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:43:48pm

re: #375 ProLifeLiberal

Nothing has happened yet in Libya today. Considering the things that have occurred in the past 48 hours, no news is good news.

Libyan Rebels Take Western Border Crossing

381 What, me worry?  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:44:05pm

re: #359 prononymous

In some ways I agree with both WUB and Researchok. It does feel a little ridiculous to compare internet trolls and stalkers to people actively engaged in violence. But the other side to this is that I feel that most bad behavior by humans is the result of common forces such as hatred, greed, obsession, delusion, fantasy, ignorance, boredom etc. That most negative behaviors could be compared as simply relative amounts of these factors.

I don’t agree that untreated pathology always gets worse though, that’s not how it works. Most pathological organisms have evolved to not kill their host. Rather they try to feed off the host as much as possible while keeping them alive and healthy enough so they can continue to do so over an extended period of time.

But isn’t that an argument for it getting worse? I know next to nothing about this from an academic standpoint, but it’s an obsession and sometimes untreated obsessions can spiral out of control.

The M.E. conflict analogy? I’d go for an obsession before that. I mean, Research made a statement “All they have to do is walk away and ignore the source of their discomfort, but they can’t. They escalate their pathologies all by themselves.” As to Israel, they supply food, water and fuel to the territories so neither side can simply “walk away.” The disgruntled fans, yea, if they get tired enough or distracted enough, or at least acknowledge the whole negative energy output.

382 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:44:16pm

re: #378 Varek Raith

Same here. Never had a beer or alcohol in my life.
Nor smoked anything.

Also cool… But in your case, that might be why you have all those meanie Sith fantasies….

383 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:44:18pm
384 BongCrodny  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:44:34pm

re: #355 austin_blue

You have no idea how stupid the average Texas legislator can be.


Oh, yes I do.

385 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:46:16pm

re: #382 LudwigVanQuixote

Also cool… But in your case, that might be why you have all those meanie Sith fantasies…

*ZZZAAAPPPP*

386 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:46:28pm

Uh oh. A serious new topic.

[Splashes cold water on face and grabs Sword of Grammar and Thought!]

//

387 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:46:37pm

Internet drama just seems so silly to me. The stalkers are nothing but whiners to me. I mean if you have nothing better to do than made snide comments about a blog you don’t like then you obviously have no life.

388 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:46:50pm

re: #376 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes, but the Palestinians at least have an actual problem, regardless of how accurate their perception may be of what it is and whose responsibility it is.

The stalkers don’t have a problem. They don’t have a cause. They are dedicating alarming amounts of time to being annoyed by a blogger who cut off their posting privileges.

But it really is the same thing on a number of deep levels. Much of the problems are self inflicted.

I mean consider a guy like Chen, 30 something, caught spanking regularly by his mom who jokes about it, has a dead end job and no existence to talk about meaningfully. He has to imagine himself a superhero and stuff.

Well, that and the fact that the stalkers really hate Muslims and being compared to Palestinians is a brilliant burn.

389 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:48:11pm

re: #387 HappyWarrior

Internet drama just seems so silly to me. The stalkers are nothing but whiners to me. I mean if you have nothing better to do than made snide comments about a blog you don’t like then you obviously have no life.

Ohh but you see that is the point. They make the worst of Wow people stereotypes look social.

390 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:48:15pm

re: #381 marjoriemoon

But isn’t that an argument for it getting worse? I know next to nothing about this from an academic standpoint, but it’s an obsession and sometimes untreated obsessions can spiral out of control.

The M.E. conflict analogy? I’d go for an obsession before that. I mean, Research made a statement “All they have to do is walk away and ignore the source of their discomfort, but they can’t. They escalate their pathologies all by themselves.” As to Israel, they supply food, water and fuel to the territories so neither side can simply “walk away.” The disgruntled fans, yea, if they get tired enough or distracted enough, or at least acknowledge the whole negative energy output.

Good stuff.

That said, the Palestinians receive more aid per capita than just about anyone on the planet and have for decades. Corruption is the reason for Palestinian poverty and dependence.

They have chosen to be dependent and they have chosen to be victims.

Again, there are Ferrari’s and Trabants. Not the same, but they work on the same principles.

391 Gus  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:49:04pm

Don’t Bogart That Joint!

Woohoo! Love the country sound it has too.

392 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:49:08pm

re: #390 researchok

Good stuff.

That said, the Palestinians receive more aid per capita than just about anyone on the planet and have for decades. Corruption is the reason for Palestinian poverty and dependence.

They have chosen to be dependent and they have chosen to be victims.

Again, there are Ferrari’s and Trabants. Not the same, but they work on the same principles.

Great analogy. I am right with you.

393 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:49:32pm

re: #376 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes, but the Palestinians at least have an actual problem, regardless of how accurate their perception may be of what it is and whose responsibility it is.

The stalkers don’t have a problem. They don’t have a cause. They are dedicating alarming amounts of time to being annoyed by a blogger who cut off their posting privileges.

That is my point, in part. They have chosen to feed their own pathologies to the point of obsession.

394 prairiefire  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:50:24pm

The President has had to put up with the nonsense for a long time:
“After lunch, the group took a walk, with Barry running ahead. A flock of Indonesian children began lobbing rocks in his direction. They ducked behind a wall and shouted racial epithets. He seemed unfazed, dancing around as though playing dodge ball “with unseen players,” Bryant said. Ann did not react. Assuming she must not have understood the words, Bryant offered to intervene. “No, he’s O.K.,” Ann said. “He’s used to it.”

“We were floored that she’d bring a half-black child to Indonesia, knowing the disrespect they have for blacks,” Bryant said. At the same time, she admired Ann for teaching her boy to be fearless. A child in Indonesia needed to be raised that way — for self-preservation, Bryant decided. Ann also seemed to be teaching Barry respect. He had all the politeness that Indonesian children displayed toward their parents. He seemed to be learning Indonesian ways.”

395 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:51:12pm

Adores, is a level of love, that I find amazing.
I like the positive aspects of giving and receiving adoration.

396 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:51:13pm

re: #389 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohh but you see that is the point. They make the worst of Wow people stereotypes look social.

Heh at least the WoW people are playing something they enjoy. But your point is well taken. I just ignore the stalkers. You’re free to call them out if you want of course.

397 ProBosniaLiberal  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:51:23pm

re: #377 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yup. Considering that we lost a citizen on Wednesday, I happy with that development.

re: #380 researchok

That will make things easier of the besieged Berbers. They are up in a strip of mountains. Supplies can now come through, while Qaddafi loyalists doing the siege continue to be attacked, whether from air or ground.

I’m rather impressed with their action. They basically bum rushed this town, which is about 32 miles by road, 19 by straight line. Tunisia is now holding the 113 troops forced to flee over the border, combine that with any killed in the fighting, and that is a serious loss, considering how the Armed Forces fractured.

Bravo to the Berbers!

398 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:53:03pm

re: #394 prairiefire

The President has had to put up with the nonsense for a long time:
“After lunch, the group took a walk, with Barry running ahead. A flock of Indonesian children began lobbing rocks in his direction. They ducked behind a wall and shouted racial epithets. He seemed unfazed, dancing around as though playing dodge ball “with unseen players,” Bryant said. Ann did not react. Assuming she must not have understood the words, Bryant offered to intervene. “No, he’s O.K.,” Ann said. “He’s used to it.”

“We were floored that she’d bring a half-black child to Indonesia, knowing the disrespect they have for blacks,” Bryant said. At the same time, she admired Ann for teaching her boy to be fearless. A child in Indonesia needed to be raised that way — for self-preservation, Bryant decided. Ann also seemed to be teaching Barry respect. He had all the politeness that Indonesian children displayed toward their parents. He seemed to be learning Indonesian ways.”

His mother seems like she was a wonderful woman. I always thought judging by the photos that she was an attractive young woman too. You definitely get the impression through the photos of her and her son that she was proud of him. Too bad she never saw him achieve what he achieved a couple years ago.

399 Interesting Times  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:53:11pm

re: #298 LudwigVanQuixote

It would, but it would require more source data to deconvolve the number to get the figures you want. I honestly don’t have the drought input data on hand. It is something you can get on the web however.

I found what I was looking for! Or at the very least something close:

Drought Severity Classification

Exceptional Drought: -5.0 or less

Exceptional and widespread crop/pasture losses; shortages of water in reservoirs, streams, and wells creating water emergencies

Puts this in a little more perspective, no?

400 dell*nix  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:53:38pm

re: #371 Gus 802

Got that one on vinyl.

401 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:54:21pm

re: #365 researchok

I do have some experience in the mental health business.

While I cannot speak to pathological organisms, I can speak to human psycho-pathologies. As a rule,left untreated, psycho-pathologies do escalate until the individual is rendered ‘broken’.

I have a family member working as a psychiatrist at the VA, and I have mild social anxiety disorder myself. It seems we both have some experience in this regard.

Left untreated I stayed about the same, it never progressed to all out agoraphobia or anything. Of course that isn’t always the case, but I’m simply saying that pathologies can progress in many ways.

402 dell*nix  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:54:53pm

re: #377 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Bad weather.

403 McSpiff  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:55:09pm

I was banned from LGF once. I was kind of pissed off about it too. So I took… maybe a week as a breather? Re-read what I had posted, and sent Charles an apology via email. I also had a particularly rough month once and attempted to flounce. Again, Charles showed a pretty darn good aptitude for people.

As you can see, I’m still here. What’s my point? Well, two points… You really gotta go out of your way to seriously get and stay on Charles’s bad side. Guy is pretty much as chill as the music he posts. The other point is to echo what other people here have said, the inclination to stalk a forum for YEARS after getting banned is seriously abnormal. At this point I think the best case is its a hobby that gives them some warped sense of community, but I suspect I’m being way too generous.

404 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:58:17pm

re: #15 Charles

Bill White is the reason I own a Mossberg.

Very nice. My father is getting a shotgun this spring. He was a gun owner when he and my mother first got married, but got rid of the revolver he owned when I was a small child (this was back in the early 80’s, before modern gun safes). But since the Supreme Court mandated the change to Chicago’s gun laws, he’s decided to purchase a shotgun and he took the required class today.

405 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 8:59:34pm

re: #404 Dark_Falcon

Very nice. My father is getting a shotgun this spring. He was a gun owner when he and my mother first got married, but got rid of the revolver he owned when I was a small child (this was back in the early 80’s, before modern gun safes). But since the Supreme Court mandated the change to Chicago’s gun laws, he’s decided to purchase a shotgun and he took the required class today.

By very nice I mean your choice of weapon, not the actions of that asshole White.

406 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 9:05:36pm

Just to be clear- Every scenario is different because people are different.

Further, one man’s obsession may be another’s mild curiosity..

That said, the principles of understanding and addressing psycho pathologies remains the same for every scenario. There are degrees of scale but in the end, the pathologies are the same.

They may manifest differently but in the end, they are the same.

407 researchok  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 9:25:41pm

re: #406 researchok

Think of it this way: Long before a kid commits an act of terror or straps on a suicide belt, there is an underlying pathology that is developed and nurturd by a group or is left to fester and grow on it’s own (remember Travis Bickle in Taxi?)

These dysfunctional types start somewhere and left untreated, we see the possible results.

408 economicsprofessor  Thu, Apr 21, 2011 9:28:37pm

Chris is absolutely correct. The Republicans are nuts. Unfortunately, the Democratic party has in great measure become the party of Michael Moore.

Fahrenheit 9/11 enthusiastically endorsed by:

Bill Clinton (“everyone should see it) , Mario Cuomo (actually tried to get the “R” rating reduced so kids could see it), Terry McAuliffe (said he believed in the conspiracies that Michael Moore presented as to Bush’s motives for war), Jimmy Carter “favorite movie (along with Casablanca)”. Oh, Moore and his films have been endorsed by one more notable: Rachel Maddow (check Maddow’s transcripts and teasers for interviews with Moore—she actually believes he is a source of wisdom. )

Imagine you are an Arab and you see Fahrenheit (it was a big hit in the Arab world). If Michael Moore is correct, what is the right thing to do when you see those American servicemen and women coming towards you? I have to admit I get emotional on this subject. I have many former students who have served in Iraq—-one female student part of the bomb detail. It bugs me (even though I can’t stand Bush) when people make films which encourage foreigners to shoot them.

America is in trouble. The Democrats listen to the Daily Kos and the Republicans listen to the birthers. What a minute, I mean the Republicans ARE the birthers.

409 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 2:54:42am

re: #408 economicsprofessor

here we go again with the guy at the end of the thread trying to get the dumb last word

410 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 5:36:27am

re: #408 economicsprofessor

Your Magical Balance Fairy looks tired.

411 Decider  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 5:40:50am

Republicans have created this “Fox News Bubble” where misinformation is king and any facts are “Lamestream Media”. The Birthers are the results of the strategy.

412 leftynyc  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 6:26:42am

re: #45 albusteve

spit wads don’t count

Liberals are counting on the rest of you believing that.

413 Girl with a Pearl Earring  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 6:42:21am

So is Chris Matthews going to recant his own statements about BO showing his birth certificate? Matthews is just as nutty as the rest of them, with hair as bad as Donald Trump.

414 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 7:39:53am

re: #408 economicsprofessor

You have an amazingly narrow worldview.

415 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 7:42:35am

Not to mention that’s a lot of accusations with nothing to back it up.

Anyhoo, morning and Good Friday to my lizard friends!

416 What, me worry?  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 7:44:31am

Ack, I hate when I post to the wrong thread. I was wondering where you guys were LOL (moving upstairs :>)


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