Jim ‘Dim’ Hoft Says Obama Booed at AIPAC, Posts Video With No Boos

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DERPThe densest right wing blogger on the web, Jim “Dim” Hoft, keeps finding new ways to excel at his chosen pastime of making a complete fool of himself in public. Today he live-hateblogged the President’s address to AIPAC:

OBAMA BOOED AT AIPAC (Video) | The Gateway Pundit

They just introduced Barack Obama at AIPAC 2011. He was met with boos.

Barack Obama was met with cheers and boos at AIPAC 2011 this morning. The far left president last week proposed that Israel turn over the Holy Land to the Hamas-Fatah terror alliance.

Here are some notes taken during Obama’s speech to AIPAC.

America’s most anti-Israel president in history will speak at the annual conference this morning.

The Teleprompters are rolling.

FOX News said that Obama will double down today on his lethal plans to neuter Israel and turn over the Holy Land to the Hamas-Fatah alliance.

Hoft’s delusional commentary seems to be coming from an alternate universe, because it bears no resemblance to this one. He posts the following video as evidence that the AIPAC audience “booed” when President Obama was introduced — and even his own commenters are gingerly trying to break it to him that there are no boos on his recording. In fact, it looks an awful lot like a standing ovation.

Youtube Video
UPDATE at 5/22/11 11:17:12 am

Back in the real universe, JTA reports that there was a single boo during Obama’s speech (but it isn’t in Hoft’s video):

Obama runs through his pro-Israel credentials, with many applause lines, but then gets to the nub: If he wants to get the Internationaly community on board to stop the Palestinian effort to declare independence unitlaterally, he needs a plan when he goes to Europe this evening.

The Palestinian march for recognition, he says, “will continue to gain momentum in the absence of a credible peace process. The basis for negotiations has to hold out the prospect of success.

Obama repeats his line about the 1967 lines, and gets one big boo, but also applause.

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168 comments
1 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:01:56am

I was kind of out of touch for a while (visiting family), but was this dog-whistling going on all week?!

2 Obdicut  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:03:35am

Lovely.


At the end of his speech lame-assed American Jews fall all over each other to donate $100,000,000 to Barry’s election campaign. Well… maybe only $45,000,000.

Nothing like bashing Obama for being wrong-headed on Israel while simultaneously getting some anti-semitism in.

There's a certain type of American nutjob who thinks that all Jews belong in Israel. They're pretty creepy.

3 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:05:50am

Hoft must be on drugs...he just never seems to make any sense, his reality is all over the place as he chases fame and fortune on the internet

4 Obdicut  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:06:22am

Sheesh, another:


Exactly, Carbon (#9), and most American Jews are behaving like pre-WWII German Jews with their heads full of wishful thinking, planted firmly in the sand.

I mean, never mind the mutilated metaphor, what kind of moron do you have to be to compare Jews supporting Obama to Jews hoping against hope that the tide of anti-semitism in Germany would recede?

Sick shit.

5 Lidane  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:09:24am

re: #2 Obdicut

There's a certain type of American nutjob who thinks that all Jews belong in Israel. They're pretty creepy.

Well of course all Jews belong in Israel. They have to be there in order for Armageddon to be incited and bring about the Second Coming.

That's the only reason the religious right even supports Israel -- so it can be destroyed and Jesus can come back.

6 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:09:45am

From the Jerusalem Post: "Obama was well-received by the crowd, which gave him extended ovations when he arrived and when he departed and applauded at several points. He also faced a handful of boos, particularly when he said that “borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps” – a repetition of his comments Thursday – though he also received a smattering of applause."

7 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:11:00am

re: #6 PhillyPretzel

What a huge huge shock ><

"You mean some people liked his policy and some didn't? I thought all those people thought the same!"

8 Obdicut  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:11:01am

Fucking hell, it's all over the place. Masks are dropping off.


The fact that Barky got applause is completely expected. These people are ‘rats first. Just as many, if not most, Catholics are ‘rats first. No surprise here.

Nice anti-Catholic swipe, too.

Hate to say it, but it will take Christians to save Israel. Just as American Jews during WWII were too busy worshipping FDR to notice his administration hosed European Jewish refugees trying to escape the ovens, they’ll be too busy worshiping Obama to do boo about Israel.

My Jewish grandfather, veteran of WWII, didn't really like FDR but sure liked fighting in the Army. As did the many, many, many Jewish veterans of WWII.

9 Lidane  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:11:25am

How does Dim Hoft get through the day without a crash helmet? The guy is just unbelievably stupid.

10 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:12:10am

re: #9 Lidane

he's probably just lazy. "Hey somebody said Obama got boo'd! Quick, make a story!"

11 Four More Beers  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:12:24am

The stupid is so painful with this clown.

12 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:12:41am

re: #7 windsagio
If you do not like what I said take your "upding" back. I am just picking out something from an article posted online.

13 rwmofo  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:12:47am

The gorgeous Naomi Campbell is 41 today. What are the odds she'll swat somebody's head by Labor Day?

14 simoom  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:13:07am

According to JTA there was a single boo, somewhere in the audience, which I'd imagine most cameras wouldn't even catch unless they were positioned in exactly the right spot, when the President reiterated the 1967 line:

[Link: blogs.jta.org...]

Lee Rosenberg introduced Obama, ran through the Obama-is-pro-Israel talking points (increased defense asisstance, confronting Iran, rejecting Hamas as a partner) and segued from praise for killing Osama bin Laden, which got a standing ovation, to inrtroducing Obama.

No comment on Obama's speech thursday. AIPAC is reserving comment for after this speech.

Obama runs through his pro-Israel credentials, with many applause lines, but then gets to the nub: If he wants to get the Internationaly community on board to stop the Palestinian effort to declare independence unitlaterally, he needs a plan when he goes to Europe this evening.

The Palestinian march for recognition, he says, "will continue to gain momentum in the absence of a credible peace process. The basis for negotiations has to hold out the prospect of success.

Obama repeats his line about the 1967 lines, and gets one big boo, but also applause.

Then this line, brings about half the room to its feet with applause, while half the room is resolutely sitting:

By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967.

He departs to standing applause.

Obviously this still completely contradicts Hoft's: "They just introduced Barack Obama at AIPAC 2011. He was met with boos."

15 Obdicut  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:13:34am

re: #13 rwmofo

What do you think about the applause that Obama got for his speech at AIPAC?

16 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:13:43am

Obama got boo'd because he didn't show his long-form Israeli birth certificate.

17 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:14:44am

Looks like a standing ovation from here.

18 Max  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:14:59am

re: #16 Iwouldprefernotto

Heh?

19 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:15:08am

re: #12 PhillyPretzel

I had no problem with your post, but was making fun of the people on that other site :p Sorry for any confusion!

20 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:15:44am

re: #14 simoom

According to JTA there was a single boo, somewhere in the audience, which I'd imagine most cameras wouldn't even catch unless they were positioned in exactly the right spot, when the President reiterated the 1967 line:

[Link: blogs.jta.org...]

Obviously this still completely contradicts Hoft's: "They just introduced Barack Obama at AIPAC 2011. He was met with boos."

Met with boo.

21 Romantic Heretic  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:16:07am

re: #3 albusteve

Hoft must be on drugs...he just never seems to make any sense, his reality is all over the place as he chases fame and fortune on the internet

Nah. It's a phenomena I call 'information disease'. A person processes new information through the prism of the information already in their mind. If that information is, well, 'diseased', they literally cannot process new information without that new information also becoming 'diseased'. They see the world through 'a mirror darkly'.

Pretty sad actually.

22 Lidane  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:16:49am

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Looks like a standing ovation from here.

Clearly you don't have enough head trauma or ODS. Go slam your head into a brick wall a few times then look again.

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23 simoom  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:18:25am

re: #20 Killgore Trout

Met with boo.

Hoft's also inaccurately implying he was booed when being introduced.

24 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:18:28am

"Enemy of Israel" should be up there with "Soft on Communism" and "Soft on Terrorism".

Has there been any president (ignoring carter :p) that hasn't taken an utterly consistent (basically) pro-Israel stand?

25 Four More Beers  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:18:31am

Wait, huh??!! Maybe I'm hungover like Drunken Pam, but I could have swore I just saw a standing ovation.

26 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:18:58am

re: #25 Kid A

Those were Jewish boos. Get up on your culture!!

27 Four More Beers  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:21:07am

re: #26 windsagio

Those were Jewish boos. Get up on your culture!!

So how do I interpret Jewish laughter?

28 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:22:20am

re: #27 Kid A

Laughing at you not with you. Everything is topsy-turvy land >

29 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:22:46am

Well, I guess the only option left for the wingnuts is to turn on AIPAC and label them a leftist front group like AARP , ADL, SPLC, EPA, NASA and ACORN.

30 blueraven  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:22:50am

re: #13 rwmofo

The gorgeous Naomi Campbell is 41 today. What are the odds she'll swat somebody's head by Labor Day?

Better than the odds that you will post something truthful and honest on this blog, I would wager.

31 Max  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:23:01am

re: #24 windsagio

Has there been any president (ignoring carter :p) that hasn't taken an utterly consistent (basically) pro-Israel stand?

Yes, Dwight D. Eisenhower. He did not come to Israel's aid during its 1956 war with Egypt, he scolded Israel for pre-emotively striking Nasser's military, and he even considered cutting off military aid to Israel if they didn't back down.

32 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:23:41am

re: #31 Max D. Reinhardt

thanks, figured somebody would know.

There's a wonderful irony that the example people came up with was a Republican >>

33 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:24:39am

Drudge, Hot Air and Instadouche are just pretending the speech never happened.

34 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:26:16am

Netanyahu vows to work with Obama to renew peace talks

"I am a partner to President Obama's wish to promote peace and I appreciate his efforts in the past and present to achieve this goal. I am determined to work with President Obama to find ways to renew peace talks."

35 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:26:25am

re: #33 Killgore Trout

I think they're hoping that their readers don't read real news >>

36 Max  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:26:38am

re: #32 windsagio

thanks, figured somebody would know.

There's a wonderful irony that the example people came up with was a Republican >>

Thanks. :). Bush 41 wasn't really a good friend to Israel during the First Intifada. Ironically, the most anti-Israel presidents have been Republicans (CRter went nuts after he left office).

37 Four More Beers  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:26:47am

re: #33 Killgore Trout

Drudge, Hot Air and Instadouche are just pretending the speech never happened.

Image: douche.jpg

38 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:27:57am

re: #36 Max D. Reinhardt

It was also usually Democrats that got us into the big wars (at least until the USSR fell), just one of those weird things ;)

39 webevintage  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:29:14am

Wingnut Math:
1=1000

40 Lidane  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:30:31am

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Netanyahu vows to work with Obama to renew peace talks

How soon before the wingnuts say that Netanyahu is an enemy of Israel for that?

41 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:30:46am

re: #40 Lidane

Or he gets his ass shot?

42 Four More Beers  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:30:49am

re: #39 webevintage

Wingnut Math:
1=1000

78,000 x 0= 78,000

43 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:31:08am

Of course this is all a gigantic waste of time anyways....
Hamas: Obama will not force Israel recognition


Hams spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri slammed Sunday US President Barack Obama's speech to the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee, saying a call to the party to recognize Israel would go unanswered.
....
"The US administration will fail, just as all others have in the past, in forcing Hamas to recognize the occupation," Abi Zuhri said of the request to recognize Israel ahead of talks.
44 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:32:02am

re: #13 rwmofo

The gorgeous Naomi Campbell is 41 today. What are the odds she'll swat somebody's head by Labor Day?

It really is amazing what beautiful people can get away with. But I'll bet she will never take a swing at her Russian billionaire.

45 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:32:48am

re: #43 Killgore Trout

(pardon me if something changed)

I think HAMAS is gonna be feeling pressure in general to stay relevant if this flash-mob thing starts replacing the old way.

46 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:33:00am

re: #43 Killgore Trout

Of course this is all a gigantic waste of time anyways...
Hamas: Obama will not force Israel recognition

my take exactly...all this fussing around for nothing, another example of the media creating it's own stories

47 jaunte  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:33:19am

re: #43 Killgore Trout

That's some catch, that "mutually agreed" catch.

48 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:33:52am

re: #46 albusteve

its political tho', not the media.

There's a ton of votes and influence to be moved on this subject, and they want a piece (especially since the Pres got OBL)

49 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:34:15am

re: #48 windsagio

Altho according to the people we're talking about, he actually didn't >>

50 Four More Beers  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:35:49am

re: #44 moderatelyradicalliberal

It really is amazing what beautiful people can get away with. But I'll bet she will never take a swing at her Russian billionaire.

51 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:35:57am

re: #45 windsagio

(pardon me if something changed)

I think HAMAS is gonna be feeling pressure in general to stay relevant if this flash-mob thing starts replacing the old way.

I don't think so. Getting masses of unarmed Palestinians to rush checkpoints and get themselves killed will work out just fine for Hamas. It's an interesting new tactic but a high Palestinian death toll is exactly what Hamas thrives on.

52 Lidane  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:36:23am

The latest AP headline, courtesy of MSNBC:

Obama: '67 borders reflect longstanding US policy

53 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:37:03am

re: #51 Killgore Trout

well until they realize it's substantially more effective than the old 'rockets and bombs' method. There whole thing is military, no?

54 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:37:15am

re: #53 windsagio

GODDAMMIT!

*Their

55 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:37:39am

re: #51 Killgore Trout

I don't think so. Getting masses of unarmed Palestinians to rush checkpoints and get themselves killed will work out just fine for Hamas. It's an interesting new tactic but a high Palestinian death toll is exactly what Hamas thrives on.

Dead Palestinians has always worked for Palestinian leadership. Talk about perverse incentives.

56 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:37:57am

re: #46 albusteve

my take exactly...all this fussing around for nothing, another example of the media creating it's own stories

I think it's an odd feature of American politics that every president has to do the same song and dance. I guess it serves some public relations purpose but I don't think anyone actually expects this stuff to work.

57 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:38:41am

re: #43 Killgore Trout

Of course this is all a gigantic waste of time anyways...
Hamas: Obama will not force Israel recognition

Fuck Hamas.

58 steve_davis  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:38:55am

re: #20 Killgore Trout

Met with boo.

With with Bo. A very wet, long tongue swipe and some leg-humping ensued. Actually, I've been told leg humping is an instinct dogs have that they use when trying to establish dominance. I'm assuming that after Osama got capped, Bo doesn't try any of that leg-humping shit anymore.

59 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:39:22am

re: #51 Killgore Trout

I don't think so. Getting masses of unarmed Palestinians to rush checkpoints and get themselves killed will work out just fine for Hamas. It's an interesting new tactic but a high Palestinian death toll is exactly what Hamas thrives on.

again I agree...Hamas/UN may be setting themselves up for a showdown with the Israels again....they are well bunkered, chock full of ordnance and poised for conflict

60 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:40:00am

re: #59 albusteve

lol, "Hamas/UN".

61 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:43:58am

re: #53 windsagio

well until they realize it's substantially more effective than the old 'rockets and bombs' method. There whole thing is military, no?

I don't think they'll give up the daily rocket launches until the Iron Dome gets good enough to stop the rockets, The only reason they don't do many suicide bombings is because the wall prevents them. Hamas will always find a new way to provoke Israeli reactions, military or otherwise. I don't think it'll make much difference.

62 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:45:21am

re: #61 Killgore Trout

I think we're talking across each other here, I didn't say they'd stop, but that they'd lose significance as a political force.

63 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:46:02am

re: #59 albusteve

again I agree...Hamas/UN may be setting themselves up for a showdown with the Israels again...they are well bunkered, chock full of ordnance and poised for conflict

I don't think Hamas is ready yet. The pushed things to the brink with the rockets a while back but backed off before the Israelis invaded.

64 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:47:52am

re: #63 Killgore Trout

I don't think Hamas is ready yet. The pushed things to the brink with the rockets a while back but backed off before the Israelis invaded.

shit, I mixed up Hamas with Hez up in Lebanon...my bad

65 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:48:31am

re: #62 windsagio

I think we're talking across each other here, I didn't say they'd stop, but that they'd lose significance as a political force.

I don't see any signs of them losing support of the people and remember that this is a terrorist organization and it's pretty unlikely they'd step aside as the result of losing an election. I think the "moderate" Fatah is in more danger. The only thing preventing Hamas from throwing Fatah out of the West Bank is the Israeli occupation.

67 What, me worry?  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:52:06am

re: #44 moderatelyradicalliberal

It really is amazing what beautiful people can get away with. But I'll bet she will never take a swing at her Russian billionaire.

She can't. Her hand is too weighted down from Charles Taylor's blood diamonds.

68 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:52:15am

Hamas weapons buildup in Gaza...

JERUSALEM — An Israeli study says Hamas, the militant group that controls Gaza, is engaged in the broadest and most significant military buildup in its history with help from Syria and Iran. It adds that Hamas is restructuring more hierarchically and using more and more powerful weapons, especially longer-range rockets against Israel’s southern communities.

The study, by an independent research group with close ties to the Israeli military establishment, says that though the buildup will take some years to complete, it is in an intensive phase that has already led to better infiltration into Israel and a rise in the breadth and precision of rocket fire.

“This is the first comprehensive analysis of the Hamas buildup,” said Reuven Erlich, a retired colonel in military intelligence who heads the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center, the institute that produced the study. “It is based on a wide range of sources. And what is very clear is that Hamas, like Hezbollah in Lebanon, is aiming to use rocket fire to draw the Israeli military in.”

bad news for somebody

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

69 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:53:21am
Back in the real universe, JTA reports that there was a single boo during Obama’s speech

Probably by Jim Hoft, he had to edit it from his version of the tape because everyone would have realized it was coming from the guy who was holding the camera. :p

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70 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:53:24am

re: #67 marjoriemoon

She can't. Her hand is too weighted down from Charles Taylor's blood diamonds.

LOL! But she did have those blood diamonds when she was smacking other people. Maybe lifting them has made her punches and throwing arm even stronger.

71 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:54:19am

re: #65 Killgore Trout

I think this discussion will have to be delayed for reasons of 'only time will tell' >>

72 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:54:37am

re: #68 albusteve
Yup. if all this effort about peace talks continues much longer they're going to start another intifada. Could be in the next few months.

73 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:57:13am

re: #71 windsagio

I think this discussion will have to be delayed for reasons of 'only time will tell' >>

The Palestinians will eventually get tired of supporting terrorism against Israel but it's not going to happen for a very long time. I really hesitate to think of the horrible event that is going to make them reconsider but it's going to take something really really bad.

74 What, me worry?  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:04:58pm

re: #73 Killgore Trout

The Palestinians will eventually get tired of supporting terrorism against Israel but it's not going to happen for a very long time. I really hesitate to think of the horrible event that is going to make them reconsider but it's going to take something really really bad.

No horrible event, just Israel defending itself.

There is no indication that I can see of the Palestinians getting tired of terrorism. And this just in. Hamas: Obama speech will not force us to recognize Israel

From Obama's speech:

“No country can be expected to negotiate with a terrorist organization sworn to its destruction,” Obama said to cheers from the more than 10,000 AIPAC activists filling the massive convention center hall. “We will continue to demand that Hamas accept the basic responsibilities of peace, including recognizing Israel’s right to exist and rejecting violence and adhering to all existing agreements."

75 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:17:16pm

Repeating from the last thread, but some friends of mine who were at that say that they got e-mails last week, before the Infamous Speech, telling them to mind their manners.

This did not stop one of them from getting back to me with venomous crap, but apparently she didn't boo.

76 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:18:51pm

re: #2 Obdicut

Lovely.

Nothing like bashing Obama for being wrong-headed on Israel while simultaneously getting some anti-semitism in.

There's a certain type of American nutjob who thinks that all Jews belong in Israel. They're pretty creepy.

Some fairly hair-raising commentary about liberal Jews has been flying around on Facebook since the Speech. From other Jews.

The Temple was destroyed, we are told, because of baseless hatred, and somehow some of us still haven't got the memo.

77 sagehen  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:18:57pm

as a trivial aside... I really like that backdrop. It would make for a fine poster, bumper sticker, t-shirt or wrapping paper.

78 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:19:47pm

re: #4 Obdicut

Sheesh, another:

I mean, never mind the mutilated metaphor, what kind of moron do you have to be to compare Jews supporting Obama to Jews hoping against hope that the tide of anti-semitism in Germany would recede?

Sick shit.

The kind of moron who firmly believes that Obama is anti-Israel. If you can say that Obama is anti-Israel without a scrap of evidence, why would you need evidence of anything else?

79 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:20:18pm

re: #5 Lidane

Well of course all Jews belong in Israel. They have to be there in order for Armageddon to be incited and bring about the Second Coming.

That's the only reason the religious right even supports Israel -- so it can be destroyed and Jesus can come back.

The religious right, maybe. The right in general has other reasons, many of which are good ones.

80 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:20:44pm

re: #78 SanFranciscoZionist

The kind of moron who firmly believes that Obama is anti-Israel. If you can say that Obama is anti-Israel without a scrap of evidence, why would you need evidence of anything else?

Remember: Obama = Hitler

/

81 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:21:36pm

re: #13 rwmofo

The gorgeous Naomi Campbell is 41 today. What are the odds she'll swat somebody's head by Labor Day?

I don't know, but when you're that beautiful, people will line up to let you swat them in the head, so why don't we get a lottery going.

82 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:22:18pm

re: #16 Iwouldprefernotto

Obama got boo'd because he didn't show his long-form Israeli birth certificate.

Now, if Obama was sekretly born in Jerusalem, was he born in Israel?


///;)

83 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:23:35pm

re: #24 windsagio

"Enemy of Israel" should be up there with "Soft on Communism" and "Soft on Terrorism".

Has there been any president (ignoring carter :p) that hasn't taken an utterly consistent (basically) pro-Israel stand?

Precise levels of support have been up and down and all around town, (Reagan pulled some military aid, for example), but basically, no. They've been a standard on the ally list.

84 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:24:03pm

re: #31 Max D. Reinhardt

Yes, Dwight D. Eisenhower. He did not come to Israel's aid during its 1956 war with Egypt, he scolded Israel for pre-emotively striking Nasser's military, and he even considered cutting off military aid to Israel if they didn't back down.

OK, point. Sorry, brain is fuzzy.

85 Four More Beers  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:24:09pm

re: #82 SanFranciscoZionist

Now, if Obama was sekretly born in Jerusalem, was he born in Israel?

///;)

He was born in Kenya, remember?

86 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:24:35pm

re: #32 windsagio

thanks, figured somebody would know.

There's a wonderful irony that the example people came up with was a Republican >>

The idea that the Republicans love Israel more than the Democrats doesn't have much to back it.

87 dragonfire1981  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:27:18pm

It's truly sad that people like him make so much more money than someone like me who takes pride in being reasonable and earning an honest dollar.

88 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:28:12pm

re: #86 SanFranciscoZionist

This whole subject is the most interesting/fun thing in world politics (from the outside anyways).

So many mixed loyalties, weird alliances and bizarre twists/narratives. Also so much emotional force.

89 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:29:02pm

One of my concerns about "Candidate" Barack Obama prior to the 2008 election concerned his attitudes about the middle east. I was thinking that spending all those years listening to jeremiah wright may have helped to mis-calibrate his moral compass concerning Israel and its neighbors. Furthermore, I felt from hearing and reading his words that he was extremely naive about the motives of the arabs and the middle eastern adherents of islam. But along the way, most of my concerns were alleviated, mainly because I think "President" Obama learned a great deal about many mideast issues that "Candidate" Obama had not yet learned. I believe President Obama may wish that someone other than Netanyahu was the PM of Israel, but I do not think that Obama's personal feelings about Netanyahu will turn him against Israel in any harmful way.

90 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:30:23pm

re: #88 windsagio

This whole subject is the most interesting/fun thing in world politics (from the outside anyways).

So many mixed loyalties, weird alliances and bizarre twists/narratives. Also so much emotional force.

I suppose. It's mostly made up narratives, though. Almost no one who discusses Israel is talking about reality. Which makes actually getting shit done very tricky.

91 Four More Beers  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:30:29pm

Atlas has shrieked about Obama. It may be her "best" yet.

When BHO was introduced, he was given a standing ovation. One has to wonder: if Hitler came to AIPAC, before the world became aware of the Holocaust, would he, too, have received a standing ovation, out of respect for a head of state? No, I am not equating Obama to Hitler; what I am saying is that not every head of state is worthy of respect just because he is a head of state. And many did not stand up. Obama fell off the teleprompter when he was describing Iran as wanting to wipe Israel off "face of the map." If Sarah Palin had said that they wanted to wipe Israel "off the face of the map," "face of the map" would be the new bumper sticker and the crawl at CNN all through the news cycle.

Good grief, Drunken Pam.

92 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:31:33pm

re: #89 _RememberTonyC

One of my concerns about "Candidate" Barack Obama prior to the 2008 election concerned his attitudes about the middle east. I was thinking that spending all those years listening to jeremiah wright may have helped to mis-calibrate his moral compass concerning Israel and its neighbors. Furthermore, I felt from hearing and reading his words that he was extremely naive about the motives of the arabs and the middle eastern adherents of islam. But along the way, most of my concerns were alleviated, mainly because I think "President" Obama learned a great deal about many mideast issues that "Candidate" Obama had not yet learned. I believe President Obama may wish that someone other than Netanyahu was the PM of Israel, but I do not think that Obama's personal feelings about Netanyahu will turn him against Israel in any harmful way.

Senator Obama, in 2008

93 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:32:13pm

re: #91 Kid A

Atlas has shrieked about Obama. It may be her "best" yet.

When BHO was introduced, he was given a standing ovation. One has to wonder: if Hitler came to AIPAC, before the world became aware of the Holocaust, would he, too, have received a standing ovation, out of respect for a head of state? No, I am not equating Obama to Hitler; what I am saying is that not every head of state is worthy of respect just because he is a head of state. And many did not stand up. Obama fell off the teleprompter when he was describing Iran as wanting to wipe Israel off "face of the map." If Sarah Palin had said that they wanted to wipe Israel "off the face of the map," "face of the map" would be the new bumper sticker and the crawl at CNN all through the news cycle.

Good grief, Drunken Pam.

What?

94 celticdragon  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:34:06pm

Here is my nominee for knee jerk asshat racist comment of the day:

#33 May 22, 2011 at 10:53 am
chuck in st paul commented:

@20 Sylvie – “No one put in doubt the legitimate claims of Israel.”

Yeah actually they did, and have since 1948. Now who’s ignorant? In point of fact Israel has held claim to that land for over 5,000 years. The “Palestinians” are a fiction. The British named the area “Palestine” in 1922. That did not change the fact that it is the ancestral home of the Jews.

Today’s so-called Palestinians are the descendents of the Arab a$$holes who fled Israel in 1948 on promises of the Arab attackers that once the eeeevil Jooos were all killed off then they could go back and take the whole place for themselves. So the greedy and fearful asshats did. Oooops. It didn’t work out that way. NOW they want to go take back what they lost in a war. F*ck ‘em. In point of fact if you look up the ancient maps of Palestine it resides in Jordan, Syria, and parts of Lebenon, but mostly in Jordon. What the [bigoted word]s call Palestine is in fact Canaan, which became Judah, which became Judea by the time of Christ.

Take your Arab loving ignorant butt somewhere else.

The Palestinian Problem is something the Arabs have been using for decades to jab at Israel. It was and is solvable by moving the “Palestinians” onto Arab lands. They are Arabs after all, a bunch of Devil workshipping hateful cockroaches.


Somebody get this guy a job at Fox.
/ (do I have to?)

95 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:34:45pm

There is no "right" way to deal with a festering mess like the Middle East. But sticking to a consistent line is a good approach, we have to let both sides know that we will not be swayed by random events.

Our only approach to Israel/Palestine has to be rooted in our own long-term national interests, not those of Israel or any of its governing factions.

96 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:34:55pm
97 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:36:11pm

re: #94 celticdragon

Here is my nominee for knee jerk asshat racist comment of the day:


Somebody get this guy a job at Fox.
/ (do I have to?)

I'd be shocked, except I see crap like this constantly.

Now, how exactly does one workship the devil? Is this a cross between 'worship' and 'workshop'?

98 recusancy  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:36:17pm

re: #89 _RememberTonyC

One of my concerns about "Candidate" Barack Obama prior to the 2008 election concerned his attitudes about the middle east. I was thinking that spending all those years listening to jeremiah wright may have helped to mis-calibrate his moral compass concerning Israel and its neighbors. Furthermore, I felt from hearing and reading his words that he was extremely naive about the motives of the arabs and the middle eastern adherents of islam. But along the way, most of my concerns were alleviated, mainly because I think "President" Obama learned a great deal about many mideast issues that "Candidate" Obama had not yet learned. I believe President Obama may wish that someone other than Netanyahu was the PM of Israel, but I do not think that Obama's personal feelings about Netanyahu will turn him against Israel in any harmful way.

He didn't learn anything. He hasn't changed. You learned something about him.

99 Four More Beers  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:36:42pm

re: #93 SanFranciscoZionist

That's just one paragraph.

100 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:36:57pm

re: #98 recusancy

He didn't learn anything. He hasn't changed. You learned something about him.

I'm sure he's changed. You don't be President and not change.

But I do believe that his support for Israel was loud and clear before he became president.

101 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:37:31pm

re: #99 Kid A

That's just one paragraph.

Do any of the other paragraphs make more sense?

102 Obdicut  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:37:45pm

re: #96 Alouette

Met by Boo

103 recusancy  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:37:58pm

Josh Marshall at TPM has a good post up about this.

Netanyahu believes that US power is forever and that the US political consensus to support Israel in almost any policy choice it makes will never change. So he can simply ignore the currents of history and international affairs and thumb his nose at every other country in the world. But neither is true.

Most of Israel's leaders and all the giants of early Zionism -- whom are demeaned even to be compared to Netanyahu -- realized this. They mixed a lot of pragmatism with their improbable idealism.

104 celticdragon  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:38:01pm

re: #67 marjoriemoon

She can't. Her hand is too weighted down from Charles Taylor's blood diamonds.

Ouch.

105 Kronocide  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:39:31pm

Not only is Dim dumb, he's a lying scoundrel.

He knows he's making shit up.

106 sagehen  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:39:34pm

re: #82 SanFranciscoZionist

Now, if Obama was sekretly born in Jerusalem, was he born in Israel?

///;)

East or West Jerusalem? What year?

107 celticdragon  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:39:42pm

re: #97 SanFranciscoZionist

I'd be shocked, except I see crap like this constantly.

Now, how exactly does one workship the devil? Is this a cross between 'worship' and 'workshop'?

Beats the hell outta me.

Do idle hands go to the devil's workshop...or was that the playground? Maybe they got bored and wanted something to do.

108 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:40:10pm

re: #103 recusancy

Josh Marshall at TPM has a good post up about this.

'Every other country in the world'?

109 Lidane  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:40:57pm

re: #79 SanFranciscoZionist

The religious right, maybe. The right in general has other reasons, many of which are good ones.

True, which is why I made the distinction and said religious right. The RR agenda for Israel is its eventual destruction so that the Second Coming will happen.

Do I think everyone on the right wants that? Nope. But a lot of the religious nutbars DO want it, and it's the only reason they support Israel at all.

110 Four More Beers  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:41:02pm

re: #101 SanFranciscoZionist

Do any of the other paragraphs make more sense?

Nope.

In a rare, useless skill set mastered by our clumsy President, Obama managed to double down and backpedal at the same time. He tried to softshoe the '67 borders remark by focusing instead on the caveat of mutually agreed-upon swaps. He admonished us for taking him the wrong way. I kid you not.

111 sagehen  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:42:03pm

re: #89 _RememberTonyC

I believe President Obama may wish that someone other than Netanyahu was the PM of Israel, but I do not think that Obama's personal feelings about Netanyahu will turn him against Israel in any harmful way.

I also wish someone other than Netanyahu were PM of Israel... or at the very least, that he'd made coalition with Tzipi Livni instead of Avigdor Lieberman. We'd all be better off.

112 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:42:54pm

re: #103 recusancy

TPM fell for the media hoax...

President Obama also responded to Prime Minister Netanyahu's repeated lies about what President Obama said only the day before.


They are still sticking to the bogus headline that there was some sort of massive disagreement. There wasn't. It was all manufactured by press coverage.

113 Four More Beers  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:44:06pm

re: #89 _RememberTonyC

Hard for OK City to win when you go 1-17 from the three-point line. I hope the Bulls smoke the Heatles tonight. Who do you like in the Eastern series?

114 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:44:07pm

re: #110 Kid A

Nope.

In a rare, useless skill set mastered by our clumsy President, Obama managed to double down and backpedal at the same time. He tried to softshoe the '67 borders remark by focusing instead on the caveat of mutually agreed-upon swaps. He admonished us for taking him the wrong way. I kid you not.

Double down, backpedal, AND softshoe?

That sounds like a routine from "Chicago".

115 Four More Beers  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:45:39pm

re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist

Double down, backpedal, AND softshoe?

That sounds like a routine from "Chicago".

I'm destroying my brain cells so no one else has to.

116 Kronocide  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:46:11pm

re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist

Double down, backpedal, AND softshoe?

Yeah, I was just working out that equation, couldn't make it work. Must be Gin Math.

117 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:46:51pm

re: #111 sagehen

I also wish someone other than Netanyahu were PM of Israel... or at the very least, that he'd made coalition with Tzipi Livni instead of Avigdor Lieberman. We'd all be better off.

Given what little I know of the two, I'm inclined to agree. I just wish it were more than wikipedia level sound bites.

118 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:47:43pm

AIPAC likes Obama’s clarification on ‘67 lines


"In particular, we appreciate his statement that the U.S. does not expect Israel to withdraw to the boundaries that existed between Israel and Jordan in 1967 before the Six-Day War," the pro-Israel lobby said in a statement released after Obama delivered a speech Sunday to its annual policy conference.
...
n its statement after his speech to the group Sunday, AIPAC also said it appreciated Obama's posture on Hamas and Iran.

"We also commend President Obama for his explicit condemnation of Hamas as a terrorist organization and his recognition that Israel cannot be expected to negotiate with a group that denies its fundamental right to exist," AIPAC said. "We also welcome the president’s reaffirmation of his longstanding commitment to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons."

119 Obdicut  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:48:09pm

re: #116 BigPapa

A visual and aural interpretation of softshoeing, backpedaling, and double-down:

120 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:48:28pm

re: #109 Lidane

True, which is why I made the distinction and said religious right. The RR agenda for Israel is its eventual destruction so that the Second Coming will happen.

Do I think everyone on the right wants that? Nope. But a lot of the religious nutbars DO want it, and it's the only reason they support Israel at all.

It certainly has little or nothing to do with any sort of support or respect for Judaism or the Jewish people

121 Four More Beers  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:49:00pm

re: #116 BigPapa

Yeah, I was just working out that equation, couldn't make it work. Must be Gin Math.

Image: gin.jpg

122 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:50:52pm

re: #92 SanFranciscoZionist

Senator Obama, in 2008

I hear you SFZ, but I am always skeptical about what politicians say BEFORE elections since they can sometimes pander in the hope of getting votes. But once they HAVE the job, their true feelings tend to come out since pandering for votes either becomes unnecessary of is placed on the back burner for several years. Anyway, I feel confident that the POTUS is seeing things pretty clearly.

123 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:52:08pm

re: #98 recusancy

He didn't learn anything. He hasn't changed. You learned something about him.


He has learned plenty. And your suggestion that he hasn't is a borderline insult to him.

124 goddamnedfrank  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:52:43pm

re: #112 Killgore Trout

TPM fell for the media hoax...


They are still sticking to the bogus headline that there was some sort of massive disagreement. There wasn't. It was all manufactured by press coverage.

Netanyahu had a choice, and he chose to cynically misrepresent (lie about) the President's proposal by omission, and behind the scenes it did infuriate the administration. TPM is saying that Netanyahu exploited the media hoax, which is absolutely true.

125 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:53:14pm

re: #122 _RememberTonyC

I hear you SFZ, but I am always skeptical about what politicians say BEFORE elections since they can sometimes pander in the hope of getting votes. But once they HAVE the job, their true feelings tend to come out since pandering for votes either becomes unnecessary of is placed on the back burner for several years. Anyway, I feel confident that the POTUS is seeing things pretty clearly.

Oh, agreed, everyone pretty much says what they need to during an election. But Obama was out there saying the right stuff loud and clear for a long time.

126 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:55:51pm

re: #113 Kid A

Hard for OK City to win when you go 1-17 from the three-point line. I hope the Bulls smoke the Heatles tonight. Who do you like in the Eastern series?

I am afraid that it is going to be the Heat. Good news for ABC but bad news for most NBA fans. Dallas did what I said they needed to do before last night's game. They got ahead early and made OKC play from behind. And while I think OKC can win game 4, they HAVE to keep trying to get to the hoop and lay off shooting all those 3's. If they play "inside/outside" basketball and score some points in the paint, the looks they get from downtown will be much better.

127 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:56:30pm

re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, agreed, everyone pretty much says what they need to during an election. But Obama was out there saying the right stuff loud and clear for a long time.

You miss the RW logic. "When the candidate was saying the right things, it was a pandering lie. Now that he's the President, he's doing the right things because he's weak and afraid of the opposition."

128 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:58:13pm

re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, agreed, everyone pretty much says what they need to during an election. But Obama was out there saying the right stuff loud and clear for a long time.

Agreed, but if you were inclined to be for Obama from the get go, you would feel that way. But if you were not so gung ho in his corner at the start, you might feel as I did. I'm cool with him on this issue. I think he is seeing things pretty clearly.

129 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:58:48pm

gotta run ...... have a good one!

130 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:59:16pm

Rep. Ryan orders protesters with disabilities arrested


“I think it is ridiculous we have to get arrested to be able to talk to our members of Congress. But Medicaid funding means life and death for seniors and people with disabilities so, if arrests are necessary, we will do it again,” said Bruce Darling, an organizer with Rochester, NY. ADAPT, who spent the night jailed.

I can't get the video to work but this stuff never looks good.

131 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 12:59:57pm

re: #112 Killgore Trout

TPM fell for the media hoax...


They are still sticking to the bogus headline that there was some sort of massive disagreement. There wasn't. It was all manufactured by press coverage.

Well there was, but Netanyahu suddenly realized he'd fucked up bad, so the disagreement went away. (Well if you can call Posing for your base an actual conflict)

132 Obdicut  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:00:09pm

re: #130 Killgore Trout

What, seriously? That's just asking for headline trouble.

133 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:00:41pm

re: #91 Kid A

Good grief, Drunken Pam.

She is a disgrace to a long, long lineage of drunken writers. The ghosts of Edgar Allen Poe, Dylan Thomas, Raymond Chandler, Charles Bukowski, Dorothy Parker, Tennessee Williams, and countless others mock her pathetic linguistic flailing. Imagine a debate between Drunken Pam and drunken Hitch. It would be amusing in a way, but would also be a bit like watching a 2 year-old tormenting a puppy.

134 William of Orange  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:01:17pm

This hurts!!....


....cause I can't stop laughing!! Hahahaha!!!!

The Columbia Tea Party went from Donald Trump to jilted chump after the celebrity businessman canceled his appearance at Thursday’s State House rally, and state legislators approved tax breaks and spending that the group opposed.

Trump’s decision to not enter the GOP presidential race left local Tea Party leaders stewing about the way they had been treated. But about 30 people were on hand Thursday to thank Gov. Nikki Haley, lawmakers and activists for their work to require more on-the-record Legislative votes.


30 people!!!! OMGWTFBBQ!!! Whaahaha!!!!!

135 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:02:03pm

re: #124 goddamnedfrank

Netanyahu had a choice, and he chose to cynically misrepresent (lie about) the President's proposal by omission, and behind the scenes it did infuriate the administration. TPM is saying that Netanyahu exploited the media hoax, which is absolutely true.

I'm not so sure about that. He could have done more to dispel it but the same could be said of Obama too. The headlines were obviously bogus to anyone who's been paying attention so maybe it just wasn't considered a big deal to insiders.

136 Kragar  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:02:42pm

re: #134 William of Orange

This hurts!!...

...cause I can't stop laughing!! Hahahaha!!!


30 people!!! OMGWTFBBQ!!! Whaahaha!!!

The Tea Party, representing the dozens of self disenfranchised.

137 Obdicut  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:03:01pm

Quick, arrest those protesting orphans. And be none too gentle about it!

/

138 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:03:45pm

re: #121 Kid A

Hooray for you, because you linked a Natalie Dee comic.

139 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:05:19pm

re: #128 _RememberTonyC

Agreed, but if you were inclined to be for Obama from the get go, you would feel that way. But if you were not so gung ho in his corner at the start, you might feel as I did. I'm cool with him on this issue. I think he is seeing things pretty clearly.

Probably true, but still funny, as I was not in Obama's corner at all until several months into his presidency. I was a Hillary fan, and I nearly wrote in for her. Hell, I thought about voting for McCain for about two weeks, I was so hacked.

140 Lidane  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:05:20pm

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Rep. Ryan orders protesters with disabilities arrested

I can't get the video to work but this stuff never looks good.

o_O

Yeah, that's a great strategy there. WTF Paul Ryan?

141 William of Orange  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:06:03pm

re: #136 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Tea Party, representing the dozens of self disenfranchised.

And I would love to have seen a panorama shot of that event! Compete with the vultures, tumbleweed and massive police force, to show how tax dollars are wasted on these loons!

From the same article.

“It was a kick in the gut, but it gives you a chance to regroup,” said Olson. “He’s a businessman. He showed his worth.”

Which is exactly nothing!

142 darthstar  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:06:17pm

Obama was too booed...Jimderp Hoft was booing loudly at his computer, I'm sure of it.

By the way, I totally fucking love my new ladder. (Werner 17' multi-function)...fuckin' thing rocks...but doesn't actually rock when I stand on the upper steps.

143 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:08:08pm

re: #140 Lidane

o_O

Yeah, that's a great strategy there. WTF Paul Ryan?

Wheelchairs are for lazy socialists. Real patriots walk.
/Wingnut

144 Four More Beers  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:09:11pm

Some really "good" comments over at Gateway Lunatic.

1.) Speaking Clearly commented:

I agree with Gene Simmons of KISS.

If ANY of these Liberal American Jews left the comfort and safety of the United States for 2 seconds, AND ACTUALLY LIVED IN THEIR HISTORICAL HOMELAND OF ISRAEL, then they would NOT be supporting Barack Obama, and they wouldn’t be Liberals. After the first rocket attack, they would be on the first plane back to their comfy homes in the suburbs and cities of America.

American liberal Jews should have the title of Jew taken from them. They are the biggest hypocrites! They like to put on their little round hats and call themselves Jews, and go visit their “homeland” when it suits them…

…but look at how they are back-stabbing the actual Jewish people that live over in Israel, and serve in its’ Military, and live under the constant terrorist attacks.

AMERICAN LIBERAL JEWS ARE FU*king HYPOCRITES.

2.) The world is a fool to believe Obama wants peace. He want war and the destruction of Israel. He will go to the UN and tell them the Jews just won’t listen to reason and seek the UN to take action and force them back to the 67′ border, and after that extinction…

The fail. It hurts.

145 Four More Beers  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:12:23pm

re: #136 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Tea Party, representing the dozens of self disenfranchised.

Reminds me of the tens of fans at Montreal Expos games.
Image: Expos.jpg

146 Lidane  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:13:17pm

re: #144 Kid A

Anyone who starts off by quoting Gene Simmons of KISS as an authority on anything except merchandising is automatically made of fail.

147 Obdicut  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:13:24pm

re: #144 Kid A

Heh. Their little round hats. Okay, they're funny looking, but antisemites seem to focus on yarmulkes for some reason. What's up with that?

148 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:13:51pm

re: #144 Kid A

Some really "good" comments over at Gateway Lunatic.

1.) Speaking Clearly commented:

I agree with Gene Simmons of KISS.

If ANY of these Liberal American Jews left the comfort and safety of the United States for 2 seconds, AND ACTUALLY LIVED IN THEIR HISTORICAL HOMELAND OF ISRAEL, then they would NOT be supporting Barack Obama, and they wouldn’t be Liberals. After the first rocket attack, they would be on the first plane back to their comfy homes in the suburbs and cities of America.

American liberal Jews should have the title of Jew taken from them. They are the biggest hypocrites! They like to put on their little round hats and call themselves Jews, and go visit their “homeland” when it suits them…

…but look at how they are back-stabbing the actual Jewish people that live over in Israel, and serve in its’ Military, and live under the constant terrorist attacks.

AMERICAN LIBERAL JEWS ARE FU*king HYPOCRITES.

2.) The world is a fool to believe Obama wants peace. He want war and the destruction of Israel. He will go to the UN and tell them the Jews just won’t listen to reason and seek the UN to take action and force them back to the 67′ border, and after that extinction…

The fail. It hurts.

However, if you are a CONSERVATIVE American Jew, you are allowed to sit on your ass in the comfort of America and tell Israeli's children that they should just accept a state of perpetual war because it makes you feel all tough and realpolitiky.

149 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:15:15pm

re: #147 Obdicut

Heh. Their little round hats. Okay, they're funny looking, but antisemites seem to focus on yarmulkes for some reason. What's up with that?

Identification. Max Weber was writing on it in the early authoritarianism studies.

150 celticdragon  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:16:14pm

re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist

Double down, backpedal, AND softshoe?

That sounds like a routine from "Chicago".

"Did she fight him?"

"Like a tiger!"


I love that bit from Chicago where Geer is playing the press like a puppet master.

151 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:16:18pm

A young CCN journalist heard about a very old Jewish gentleman who for many years had prayed at the Western Wall. She thought it would make a nice subject for a story, so she went there to talk to him one day. She saw how he slowly and painfully made his way to the wall. After he had prayed for forty five minutes, he turned around and painfully walked away from the site.

She went over to him, and said "excuse me sir, I am Rebecca Smith of CNN - do you mind if I ask your name?"

"I'm Yitzkhak Fischbein."

"How long have you been coming here to pray?"

"More than sixty years!"

"Sixty years, that's incredible! And what are you praying for?"

"I pray for peace between Christians, Jews, and Muslims. I pray for an end to all wars and hate. I pray that our children will grow up in safety and with a beautiful future."

"And have you learned something by doing this all these years?"


"Well, I'm getting the impression that I'm talking to a wall."

152 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:17:07pm

re: #150 celticdragon

"Did she fight him?"

"Like a tiger!"

I love that bit from Chicago where Geer is playing the press like a puppet master.

It's a good song...and a good scene.

153 Four More Beers  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:17:27pm

re: #146 Lidane

Anyone who starts off by quoting Gene Simmons of KISS as an authority on anything except merchandising is automatically made of fail.


Image: pic.jpg

154 goddamnedfrank  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:17:37pm

re: #135 Killgore Trout

I'm not so sure about that. He could have done more to dispel it but the same could be said of Obama too. The headlines were obviously bogus to anyone who's been paying attention so maybe it just wasn't considered a big deal to insiders.

Privately, White House officials appeared infuriated by Netanyahu's combative approach, which even included a lecture for Obama on the historic struggles of the Jewish people.

155 celticdragon  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:18:03pm

re: #148 SanFranciscoZionist

However, if you are a CONSERVATIVE American Jew, you are allowed to sit on your ass in the comfort of America and tell Israeli's children that they should just accept a state of perpetual war because it makes you feel all tough and realpolitiky.

How in the holy hell does somebody who isn't even Jewish get to tell Jews who is and who is not a proper Jew??!

156 makeitstop  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:18:46pm

re: #144 Kid A

Some really "good" comments over at Gateway Lunatic.

'Little round hats?' Awesome.

157 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:18:50pm

re: #155 celticdragon

How in the holy hell does somebody who isn't even Jewish get to tell Jews who is and who is not a proper Jew??!

Oh, there's a LOOOOONG tradition of that.

158 Lidane  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:19:18pm

re: #157 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, there's a LOOONG tradition of that.

Heh. Seriously. That goes back centuries.

159 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:23:20pm

re: #142 darthstar

Obama was too booed...Jimderp Hoft was booing loudly at his computer, I'm sure of it.

By the way, I totally fucking love my new ladder. (Werner 17' multi-function)...fuckin' thing rocks...but doesn't actually rock when I stand on the upper steps.

Attention everyone:

This is a NERD COMING OUT post.

I'm glad that most of the people who frequent LFG have usually been, for the most part, accepting and tolerant of the technological orientation of each other. Sorta.

160 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:24:27pm

OK, another joke:

Several centuries ago, the Pope decreed that all the Jews had to convert or leave Italy. There was a huge outcry from the Jewish community, so the Pope offered a deal. He would have a religious debate with the leader of the Jewish community. If the Jews won, they could stay in Italy, if the Pope won, they would have to convert or leave.

The Jewish people met and picked an aged but wise Rabbi Moishe to represent them in the debate. However, as Moishe spoke no Italian and the Pope spoke no Yiddish, they all agreed that it would be a silent debate.

On the chosen day, the Pope and Rabbi Moishe sat opposite each other for a full minute before the Pope raised his hand and showed three fingers.

Rabbi Moishe looked back and raised one finger.

Next, the Pope waved his finger around his head. Rabbi Moishe pointed to the ground where he sat.

The Pope then brought out a communion wafer and a chalice of wine. Rabbi Moishe pulled out an apple.

With that, the Pope stood up and declared that he was beaten, that Rabbi Moishe was too clever, and that the Jews could stay.

Later, the Cardinals met with the Pope, asking what had happened. The Pope said, “First, I held up three fingers to represent the Trinity. He responded by holding up one finger to remind me that there is still only one God common to both our beliefs. Then, I waved my finger to show him that God was all around us. He responded by pointing to the ground to show that God was also right here with us. I pulled out the wine & wafer to show that God absolves us of all our sins. He pulled out an apple to remind me of original sin. He had me beaten & I couldn’t continue.”

Meanwhile the Jewish community gathered around Rabbi Moishe. “How did you win the debate?” they asked.

“I haven’t a clue,” said Moishe. “First he said to me that we had three days to get out of Italy, so I told him that not one of us would be leaving. Then he tells me that the whole country would be cleared of Jews and I said to him, we’re staying right here.”

“And then what?” asked a woman.

“Who knows?” said Moishe, “He took out his lunch, so I took out mine.”

161 Obdicut  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:24:32pm

re: #159 negativ

Okay?

162 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:25:57pm

re: #144 Kid A

I agree with Gene Simmons of KISS.

Just imagine: somewhere out there is a person completely comfortable stating that in public.

163 celticdragon  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:29:20pm

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Rep. Ryan orders protesters with disabilities arrested

I can't get the video to work but this stuff never looks good.

I am not going to say what I think about Ryan. I don't want to get the ensuing admonishment from Charles that would follow.

Here is another (and very sharp) take on this jackal in the legislature...

164 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:29:27pm

I just wanna rock and roll all night and party every day

165 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:33:29pm

re: #159 negativ

*MACS SUCK!*

There, just to ruin everything ><

166 sagehen  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:35:53pm

re: #165 windsagio

*MACS SUCK!*

There, just to ruin everything ><

I have no tolerance for that viewpoint. Heathen!!

167 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 1:58:42pm

re: #166 sagehen

Well it really is like a religion! :D

168 ContinentalOp  Mon, May 23, 2011 1:24:29pm

re: #24 windsagio

Has there been any president (ignoring carter :p) that hasn't taken an utterly consistent (basically) pro-Israel stand?

Eisenhower. 1956.


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