Ferguson: Down the Rabbit Hole

How lies, obfuscation, and misleading information are making a bad situation in Ferguson worse
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Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson can’t get out of his own way. In his rush to paint Mike Brown as a strong arm robber, he’s released video that the Department of Justice considered incendiary and unrelated to the FOIA requests made by the press and other interested parties. In fact, the video appears to be only a portion of the overall incident in Ferguson Market and Liquor.

There is a significantly longer video that shows that there was much more involved here. And none of it rises to the level of a strong arm robbery. Rather, this is at worst shoplifting or petit larceny given that the amount that was allegedly taken was less than $50.

The tweet shows a longer video, but the store representatives confirmed that although a theft occurred, they chose not to pursue a criminal report (it was a customer in the store who called police - not the store employee).

The store owner wasn’t going ahead with charges, but that’s not dispositive. He might fear repercussions against him and his business (which has already been targeted by looters) and instead was likely to treat it as a shrinkage loss, rather than pursue a police investigation.

It’s much more dispositive that the Ferguson Police aren’t charging Dorian Johnson with any crimes, even though he was with Brown and appears to have taken some of the tobacco products (cigarellos) given to him by Brown on their way out of the store.

Yet, all of the video does nothing to shed light on why Mike Brown was approached by Officer Darren Wilson. That’s according to Chief Jackson himself. Chief Jackson has repeatedly stated that the only reason that Wilson approached Brown and Johnson was because they were walking in the street. It had nothing to do with the incident in the store.

Chief Jackson allowed his Department to issue a video that had only a tenuous relationship to the incident leading to Brown’s death, all while claiming that is was not related. Highway Patrol Chief Ron Johnson and the Department of Justice both thought as much - that this was unrelated to the events (and Chief Johnson was blind-sided by the release, learning of it only after the media did). Both knew and understood that the release of the video would only cause even more tensions and fingers pointed at a Department intent to cast aspersions on the man whom Officer Wilson killed.

It’s enough to make your head spin.

And yet, this is just the beginning.

This is a Department that is more interested in protecting itself than protecting the public or cleaning up its act. This is a Department that has no problem allowing the officer who shot and killed Brown to leave town. Far from attempting to gather all the pertinent information and interview all the relevant witnesses, the county prosecutors and the Ferguson PD and county police have appeared to engage in a haphazard approach to gathering the critical information. That’s even though criminal justice experts would caution law enforcement agencies to interview witnesses as quickly as possible so as to get the accounts down in writing. It’s as though the agencies involved at the local level are trying to put barriers up to a proper investigation.

This is a Department that had no problem in increasing tensions by withholding key information and details relating to the Brown investigation. Some of the information is justifiably withheld under Missouri Rev. Stat. 610.100. However, they’re using the shield as a club to thwart any look at the actions by the Department.

It’s no wonder that so many people are petitioning for a special prosecutor to handle the case instead of the county prosecutor, who has already indicated how he didn’t like how Gov. Jay Nixon put the highway patrol in charge of the security situation because the county police were using such heavy handed techniques. The prosecutor, Bob McCulloch, has long and deep ties with the police departments, and appears to put those ties ahead of seeing justice done. For instance:

In 2001, two undercover drug officers from Dellwood shot and killed two men on the parking lot of a Jack in the Box in north St. Louis County. The officers said the suspects, who had prior felony convictions for drug and assault offenses, tried to escape arrest and then drove toward the officers.

A subsequent federal investigation showed that the men were unarmed and that their car had not moved forward when the officers fired 21 shots and killed the suspects, Earl Murray and Ronald Beasley. The probe, however, also concluded that because the officers feared for their safety, the shootings were justified.

McCulloch didn’t prosecute the officers. He specifically drew the ire of defense lawyers and protesters, who had been holding demonstrations and threatened to block Highway 40,when he said of Murray and Beasley, “These guys were bums.”

This is just part of the reason why the Department of Justice is carrying out its own investigations. It’s why they’re going ahead with their own autopsy (and that appears to be in addition to the family calling in noted pathologist Dr. Michael Baden to carry out one as well).

No one who is an impartial third party is willing to trust anything coming out of the Ferguson PD and St. Louis County police, let alone the county prosecutor. That’s quite telling.

Here’s the thing though. There are multiple events from Mike Brown being shot through today that indicate that the local police forces operating in Ferguson have engaged in excessive force. There’s a way to reduce the incidence, and in the process save taxpayers and the community billions of dollars a year in costs. It involves requiring all officers on patrol to wear cameras. This not only protects the public, but the officers from baseless claims.

Over the last decade, claims against cities and counties across the country stemming from police incidents amounted to $22 billion. The special counsel to the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department recently reported that between January 2013 and April 2014, 132 cases of excessive force against the department were closed by settlements or court verdicts, totaling $12,175,000. The largest payout in fiscal 2012-2013 was a jury award of $6 million, settled by the County for $3.9 million. The plaintiff in that case claimed that two deputies escalated a traffic stop into violence, pepper-spraying him, punching him in the head, kneeing him in the face, and slamming his head into the pavement. And don’t forget the attorneys’ fees that are often a key driver in the decision of whether or not to settle or proceed to litigation. In Los Angeles County, for every dollar spent on a payout in fiscal 2012, another dollar was spent on the lawyers, amounting to $43 million. Communities policed by officers wearing BWCs will see a dramatic decrease in litigation and the costs associated with it.

I’ve noted this before - it gives law enforcement the ability to learn from events on the ground - what to do and what not to do. And the costs are minimal compared to the gear that law enforcement agencies get handed down to them from the federal government (all the armored vehicles, helicopters, sniper gear, body armor, etc., which is ostensibly for protecting communities from a terrorism threat or mass casualty event and could potentially serve a legitimate purpose has instead been used to bloat budgets and prop up department requests for even more funds).

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399 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Aug 17, 2014 1:59:32pm

Just for the record: the attorney for the store owners went on CNN today and stated that Brown did steal those cigars - he didn’t pay for them. They’re not contesting what the video shows.

He also stated, however, that the store owners never filed a robbery report (a customer at the store called 911), and only learned about the shooting when police came to get the surveillance video.

2 Ryan King  Aug 17, 2014 2:01:10pm

My current thought is that Brown and friend purchased actual goods but that Brown snatched the Rillos when the clerk was distracted and gave him to his friend. Clerk noticed and tried to get Brown to pay, then the rest of the incident played out.

Either way, a petty crime and completely unrelated to Brown’s murder.

3 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 2:03:29pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Just for the record: the attorney for the store owners went on CNN today and stated that Brown did steal those cigars - he didn’t pay for them. They’re not contesting what the video shows.

He also stated, however, that the store owners never filed a robbery report (a customer at the store called 911), and only learned about the shooting when police came to get the surveillance video.

I’m going to fix/clarify that in the post.

4 WhatEVs  Aug 17, 2014 2:12:13pm

Great post. This sums up everything I’ve been saying and thinking. There’s way too much CYOA and no anything for a dead kid - and how, exactly, he got that way.

5 ausador  Aug 17, 2014 2:20:15pm

re: #2 Ryan King

My current thought is that Brown and friend purchased actual goods but that Brown snatched the Rillos when the clerk was distracted and gave him to his friend. Clerk noticed and tried to get Brown to pay, then the rest of the incident played out.

His friend put them back on the counter at 25-26 seconds and left them…

…still really unsure what happened there but clearly at least those boxes of cigarillos were not taken without payment.

6 Charles Johnson  Aug 17, 2014 2:30:39pm

The lawyer for the store owners said on CNN that Brown did steal those cigars, and Brown’s friend Dorian Johnson has also stated it. It’s really not in dispute.

7 Charles Johnson  Aug 17, 2014 2:47:20pm
8 EPR-radar  Aug 17, 2014 2:49:47pm

I really would like to see some immediate concrete action against the Ferguson PD.

At a minimum, they should be relieved of duty to stop them from screwing things up any more than they have already done.

It is also reasonable to investigate the Ferguson PD, especially the relevant chain of command, for obstructing justice and inciting riots.

9 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 2:50:37pm
10 Randall Gross  Aug 17, 2014 2:50:53pm

They have money and time to deploy tanks and snipers, but not cameras. That’s just ridiculous. Good job again Lawhawk, thanks for your analysis, I helps put everything into an objective frame for me.

11 Randall Gross  Aug 17, 2014 2:52:02pm

re: #9 lawhawk

That would be a better pic with the anon guy cropped out.

12 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 2:54:28pm

This story is not about the cigars.

Over a week has gone by and the police still won’t even tell us how many shots were fired?

13 Jenner7  Aug 17, 2014 2:55:08pm

Well, the police accomplished what it wanted by releasing those tapes. My local news website has comments calling Mike Brown a “suspect” and totally believe the police version (which is vague to begin with), rather than the witnesses who all have the same story. I knew I should have stayed away from that place, because it’s just drudged with racism. Ugh…

14 EPR-radar  Aug 17, 2014 2:56:27pm

re: #13 Jenner7

Well, the police accomplished what it wanted by releasing those tapes. My local news website has comments calling Mike Brown a “suspect” and totally believe the police version (which is vague to begin with), rather than the witnesses who all have the same story. I knew I should have stayed away from that place, because it’s just drudged with racism. Ugh…

There really needs to be a way to charge the relevant Ferguson PD officials for a crime in connection with that release of the irrelevant videotape.

15 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 2:57:44pm
16 Charles Johnson  Aug 17, 2014 3:02:03pm

I’m trying to find video of that CNN interview with the store owners’ attorney, and having no luck. Unfortunately I didn’t record it myself.

17 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 3:04:51pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

The lawyer for the store owners said on CNN that Brown did steal those cigars, and Brown’s friend Dorian Johnson has also stated it. It’s really not in dispute.

Which makes him a petty thief and a jaywalker at worst. Great, so when did we go back in time to the point when we executed petty criminals?

18 EPR-radar  Aug 17, 2014 3:06:12pm

OT, the gross ad really is objectionable when it shows up. I’m putting the relevant image here behind spoiler tags because there doesn’t seem to be a way to put an image into the contact LGF form.

19 Charles Johnson  Aug 17, 2014 3:08:00pm

re: #17 thedopefishlives

The real point is that it isn’t relevant, since Darren Wilson didn’t know about the incident at the store when he rolled up on Michael Brown.

Ferguson PD released that video to commit character assassination on Michael Brown, and potentially taint the jury pool for any trial of Darren Wilson.

20 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 17, 2014 3:08:23pm

re: #18 EPR-radar

What a crappy way to sell a product.

21 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 3:09:24pm

LOLWUT

22 Charles Johnson  Aug 17, 2014 3:09:48pm

re: #18 EPR-radar

I just blocked it.

23 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 17, 2014 3:09:58pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

I’ve got $5 that says Wilson never sees the inside of a courtroom.

and I’ve got $10 that Antonio French is going to be re-elected in a freaking landslide

and finally, I’ve got $100 that says the Ferguson PD are going to keep acting like douches no matter what.

24 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 3:10:44pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

The real point is that it isn’t relevant, since Darren Wilson didn’t know about the incident at the store when he rolled up on Michael Brown.

Ferguson PD released that video to commit character assassination on Michael Brown, and potentially taint the jury pool for any trial of Darren Wilson.

THIS.

I dare anyone to try to put together a jury anywhere in Missouri for this case after the Ferguson PD released an unrelated video to turn Michael Brown into a thug. Won’t happen. Ever.

25 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 17, 2014 3:11:01pm

And why does part of me think the show of military style force was just the Ferguson PD using this incident as convenient excuse to show off their new toys?

26 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Aug 17, 2014 3:11:07pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve got $5 that says Wilson never sees the inside of a courtroom.

and I’ve got $10 that Antonio French is going to be re-elected in a freaking landslide

and finally, I’ve got $100 that says the Ferguson PD are going to keep acting like douches no matter what.

I do not wager on other people’s misfortune but you are probably right.

27 EPR-radar  Aug 17, 2014 3:11:11pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

I just blocked it.

Thanks much. Normal ads are fine, but that was really revolting.

28 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 3:11:15pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

The real point is that it isn’t relevant, since Darren Wilson didn’t know about the incident at the store when he rolled up on Michael Brown.

Ferguson PD released that video to commit character assassination on Michael Brown, and potentially taint the jury pool for any trial of Darren Wilson.

Good point. I still don’t know if he’ll ever see the inside of a courtroom, though; Ferguson PD has gone to pretty good lengths to ensure that.

29 Frenchy  Aug 17, 2014 3:12:20pm

It really is outrageous that the officer was allowed to skip town to God knows where. That is not the action of an innocent man, and that the department apparently knew about it and allowed it is yet another sign that their primary objective is to protect him at all costs, not to see that justice is done.

I get that there may be legitimate concerns for his safety since this has become a high-profile case, but I have to think that they could be addressed in some other way than for him to just vanish like a fart in the wind. (Here’s just one idea I had: Put him in a jail cell where he belongs.)

Hell, at this point I question whether he would even show up for trial, or whether the department might actually assist in keeping him hidden.

30 ausador  Aug 17, 2014 3:14:42pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

The lawyer for the store owners said on CNN that Brown did steal those cigars, and Brown’s friend Dorian Johnson has also stated it. It’s really not in dispute.

Oh I understand that no one who was there is disputing that he stole something, all I am saying is that the boxes of cigarillos that were handed to his friend were put back on the counter. So whatever it was that happened is not really readily apparent in that video.

31 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 3:14:44pm

The Ferguson PD has done its job well. They’ve got so many people, and the media, fixated on the video showing Mike Brown in the Ferguson Market and Liquor, that they’re not focused on what the Ferguson PD did, what Officer Wilson did, and why Wilson escalated what wouldn’t even qualify as a citation to a deadly police-involved shooting.

Let’s focus on what’s truly important here. What the Officer Wilson and the Ferguson PD did, from the time Wilson rolled up to Brown and Johnson as they were in the street, until the present.

Let’s focus on what the Ferguson PD did in trying to reduce tensions (here’s a hint - nothing).

32 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 3:15:25pm

re: #27 EPR-radar

Thanks much. Normal ads are fine, but that was really revolting.

That was real shitty advertising

33 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 3:16:34pm

re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg

And why does part of me think the show of military style force was just the Ferguson PD using this incident as convenient excuse to show off their new toys?

A whole bunch of that gear, including the armored vehicles, wasn’t Ferguson PD. It was the St. Louis County police. Not the Ferguson PD. Watch the videos and photos closely. It’s the county police who are the most heavily armed, have the armored vehicles, and they’re the ones who were going after the journalists, including the AJ video crew.

34 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 3:17:01pm

TCOT is “defending” Rick Perry from indictment by HURR HURR TEH PROSECUTING ATTORNEY ONCE HAD A DUI!!!!!!

35 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 3:17:01pm

Who needs evidence?

36 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 17, 2014 3:17:16pm

re: #29 Frenchy

It really is outrageous that the officer was allowed to skip town to God knows where. That is not the action of an innocent man, and that the department apparently knew about it and allowed it is yet another sign that their primary objective is to protect him at all costs, not to see that justice is done.

Well, news media had aired video of his home and given away the address. I don’t blame him for getting the hell out of dodge given that.

37 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 3:17:29pm

And I can bet that not a single one of these shirts was purchased by an African American:

38 klys  Aug 17, 2014 3:17:50pm

re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg

Well, news media had aired video of his home and given away the address. I don’t blame him for getting the hell out of dodge given that.

He skipped town days before his name was released.

39 EPR-radar  Aug 17, 2014 3:17:50pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve got $5 that says Wilson never sees the inside of a courtroom.

and I’ve got $10 that Antonio French is going to be re-elected in a freaking landslide

and finally, I’ve got $100 that says the Ferguson PD are going to keep acting like douches no matter what.

The Michael Brown shooting and the official response to it are so egregious that the only possible conclusion is that this is standard operating procedure for the Ferguson PD. No way is this an isolated case.

What needs to happen is for the Ferguson police department to be investigated for obstruction of justice and conspiracy to cover up official murders and other police crimes for the past 20 years or so. The threat of federal prosecutions under RICO ought to get some stories told.

Like that will ever happen.

40 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 17, 2014 3:18:01pm

re: #33 lawhawk

A whole bunch of that gear, including the armored vehicles, wasn’t Ferguson PD. It was the St. Louis County police. Not the Ferguson PD. Watch the videos and photos closely. It’s the county police who are the most heavily armed, have the armored vehicles, and they’re the ones who were going after the journalists, including the AJ video crew.

Yeah I just realized that. I mixed my police forces up. Sorry.

41 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 3:18:38pm
42 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 3:19:06pm

Blue shirt. Don’t shoot.

43 Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 17, 2014 3:19:13pm

re: #38 klys

He skipped town days before his name was released.

I was not aware of that. I guess Police realized they’d have to release his name eventually and were (understandably) worried about potential backlash when it was.

44 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 3:19:27pm

Yes they have already murdered one unarmed Black teenager

45 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 17, 2014 3:19:31pm

re: #17 thedopefishlives

Which makes him a petty thief and a jaywalker at worst. Great, so when did we go back in time to the point when we executed petty criminals?

Something we will want to see-Ferguson use of force policy as per how they are trained, or with who if that’s out of town at county. Within policy to shoot an unarmed fleeing felon? (Just consistent for conversations sake with the allegation of assault on a law officer)

46 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 3:19:58pm

re: #35 jaunte

Dafuq.

47 klys  Aug 17, 2014 3:20:52pm

re: #43 Eclectic Cyborg

I was not aware of that. I guess Police realized they’d have to release his name eventually and were (understandably) worried about potential backlash when it was.

There were ways to protect him that didn’t involve him leaving town. He also had ample time to scrub his Facebook account, etc. - and if I’m cynical, help.

48 Charles Johnson  Aug 17, 2014 3:21:49pm
49 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 3:22:43pm

re: #47 klys

There were ways to protect him that didn’t involve him leaving town. He also had ample time to scrub his Facebook account, etc. - and if I’m cynical, help.

At this point, I’m beginning to think there is no such thing as cynical when it comes to the Ferguson/StL Co. police departments.

50 EPR-radar  Aug 17, 2014 3:23:37pm

re: #49 thedopefishlives

At this point, I’m beginning to think there is no such thing as cynical when it comes to the Ferguson/StL Co. police departments.

Realism works for me. In other words, they know it is murder and are determined to get away with it.

51 klys  Aug 17, 2014 3:26:01pm

re: #49 thedopefishlives

At this point, I’m beginning to think there is no such thing as cynical when it comes to the Ferguson/StL Co. police departments.

The only reason it was so easy to find his address is because he bought the house and sale information is public record. Harder to get those down in time.

52 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 3:26:15pm
53 Frenchy  Aug 17, 2014 3:26:22pm

re: #47 klys

I don’t think it’s that cynical. I imagine it would take some expertise to remove any and all trace of yourself from the Internet and social media in a matter of a few days.

54 klys  Aug 17, 2014 3:27:19pm

re: #53 Frenchy

I don’t think it’s that cynical. I imagine it would take some expertise to remove any and all trace of yourself from the Internet and social media in a matter of a few days.

The only reason there’s a photo out there is because they forgot to go through the same steps with all his relatives.

55 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 3:27:50pm
56 A Mom Anon  Aug 17, 2014 3:28:01pm

re: #44 Pie-onist Overlord

How nice of her to capitalize the words “lynch mob”.

Honest to Christ there are some horrible people in this country. WTF? Lynch mob? Seriously? I. Just. Can’t. Even.

57 EPR-radar  Aug 17, 2014 3:28:17pm

OT, technical question. Is there a way to delete an image from the LGF image library?

58 Stanley Sea  Aug 17, 2014 3:29:12pm

re: #57 EPR-radar

OT, technical question. Is there a way to delete an image from the LGF image library?

That REALLY bothered you eh?

59 Ryan King  Aug 17, 2014 3:29:52pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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Cleanup Isle T!

60 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 3:30:27pm

re: #50 EPR-radar

In other words, they know it is murder and are determined to get away with it.

At the rate they’re going, Michael Brown’s murderer will never be brought to justice.

An unarmed kid got executed with extreme prejudice by a police officer and nothing is going to come from it. The Ferguson PD have so effectively poisoned the well the state will never be able to seat a jury to try this case.

61 EPR-radar  Aug 17, 2014 3:30:54pm

re: #58 Stanley Sea

That REALLY bothered you eh?

Yes. It would be regrettable if uploading the evidence was a permanent act.

62 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 3:31:21pm

re: #55 jaunte

Protesting in support of Michael Brown’s murderer? That’s mighty white of them.

63 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 3:31:47pm

re: #41 Pie-onist Overlord

Martin Baker, running for Congress.

64 EPR-radar  Aug 17, 2014 3:33:23pm

re: #60 Lidane

At the rate they’re going, Michael Brown’s murderer will never be brought to justice.

An unarmed kid got executed with extreme prejudice by a police officer and nothing is going to come from it. The Ferguson PD have so effectively poisoned the well the state will never be able to seat a jury to try this case.

That is not an acceptable outcome. If necessary, the Feds can and should completely cut the unhelpful local authorities out of the picture. Try the case to a jury in Oregon, if that is what it takes.

65 klys  Aug 17, 2014 3:33:54pm

re: #63 jaunte

Martin Baker, running for Congress.

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I’m guessing as a Republican.

Respect for Life
Respect for the US Constitution
Belief in Limited Government
Belief in Personal Responsibility

Yep.

66 Frenchy  Aug 17, 2014 3:34:26pm

Hmm, I’m not clear on exactly what these people are “protesting”? Everything I’ve seen indicates that those in power are doing everything possible to see that the officer never answers for his crime.

67 Charles Johnson  Aug 17, 2014 3:34:31pm
68 Jenner7  Aug 17, 2014 3:37:23pm

Then they should be protesting in Ferguson with the others, if they are concerned about media bias.

69 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 3:38:34pm

re: #68 Jenner7

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Then they should be protesting in Ferguson with the others, if they are concerned about media bias.

Didn’t you know? Media bias only exists when it happens to white people and/or Republicans.

70 CarolJ  Aug 17, 2014 3:38:40pm

re: #63 jaunte

How self-hating and clueless do you have to be to run as a black Republican in Missouri?

71 EPR-radar  Aug 17, 2014 3:38:50pm

re: #65 klys

In which Martin Baker transitions from the ordinary level of wrong-headedness to be expected of black Republicans into a special realm all his own.

It will be amusing when AngryBlackLady gets onto this facet of the story (if she hasn’t already).

72 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 3:39:13pm

re: #70 CarolJ

How self-hating and clueless do you have to be to run as a black Republican in Missouri?

FTFY

73 klys  Aug 17, 2014 3:40:13pm

re: #68 Jenner7

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Then they should be protesting in Ferguson with the others, if they are concerned about media bias.

What bias is the media showing? Not properly showing the violence requiring the police to respond in such a heavy handed manner?

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I wonder why the media could possibly be having a difficult time accurately reporting what’s happening on the ground.

74 ausador  Aug 17, 2014 3:40:29pm

re: #44 Pie-onist Overlord

Yes they have already murdered one unarmed Black teenager

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Lynch mob?

75 CarolJ  Aug 17, 2014 3:40:44pm

re: #68 Jenner7

They support the police because they are scared of black folk-and of hearing the truth. These are the kind of people who roll up their window when going through a “sketchy” neighborhood where people sit on their porches and in their driveways.

They would never even go through Ferguson, let alone protest there, because “scary black people”. These folks would even be scared of kids and grannies, let alone young black people.

One thing I’m gratified. They are mostly old with a few grandkids maybe dragged into this. If I make another 10-20 years, they will be gone, and the atmosphere greatly improved by their absence.

76 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 3:40:47pm

I guess the wingnuts are now convinced that the shooting officer wasn’t black after all since they’re now defending him.

77 Charles Johnson  Aug 17, 2014 3:43:29pm
78 Stanley Sea  Aug 17, 2014 3:45:16pm

re: #76 b.d.

I guess the wingnuts are now convinced that the shooting officer wasn’t black after all since they’re now defending him.

Ima tweeting that.

79 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 3:45:32pm

80 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 3:45:45pm

re: #71 EPR-radar

Have some sympathy for Martin Baker. Re-vitiligo is a terrible, incurable disease.

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81 klys  Aug 17, 2014 3:45:47pm

From last night, remains appropriate:

82 WhatEVs  Aug 17, 2014 3:46:12pm

re: #63 jaunte

Martin Baker, running for Congress.

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Ah, Ben Carson better watch out.

83 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 3:46:34pm

84 abolitionist  Aug 17, 2014 3:49:01pm

re: #83 jaunte

Freebie for the fauxtoshop-challenged, I presume.

85 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 3:52:39pm

Did Twitter “fix” something? Because a lot of Derp that I thought I blocked & muted is now showing up in the Tweetdeck.

86 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2014 3:54:19pm

re: #55 jaunte

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Protesting in downtown St. Louis.
Notice it’s not in downtown Ferguson…

87 1Peter G1  Aug 17, 2014 3:54:35pm

I’m afraid there is much wishful thinking going on. The value of the stolen Swishers is irrelevant. The key evidence of the convenience store video is that it shows Michael Brown laying his hands on that clerk and moving toward him in a threatening manner. It kills the gentle giant narrative dead. He is twice the size of the clerk who is clearly fearful. You can bay at he moon that this is not relevant but it is. It isn’t minformation. It’s the truth. And it very likely did figure in later developments. Who knew what and who didn’t matters. So will all subsequent forensic evidence. That’s what a jury is going to see and hear and it is all that matters. The weight that any jury gives to the veracity of witnesses and what Michael Brown might have done will be influenced by it. And since the only person likely to find himself on trial is the officer no judge will be able to deny the use of this evidence to the defense.

88 BeachDem  Aug 17, 2014 3:55:10pm

re: #47 klys

There were ways to protect him that didn’t involve him leaving town. He also had ample time to scrub his Facebook account, etc. - and if I’m cynical, help.

And what exactly are these folks protesting, that he didn’t get warm milk and cookies before he left town? Nothing beyond Wilson getting a paid vacation has happened to him at this point.

89 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 3:55:17pm
90 Decatur Deb  Aug 17, 2014 3:55:55pm

re: #85 Pie-onist Overlord

Did Twitter “fix” something? Because a lot of Derp that I thought I blocked & muted is now showing up in the Tweetdeck.

To block, or not to block, that is the question—
Whether ‘tis Nobler in the mind to suffer
The Slings and Arrows of outrageous Wingnuts,
Or to take Arms against a Sea of derp-tweets,
And by opposing end them?

91 klys  Aug 17, 2014 3:56:08pm
92 BongCrodny  Aug 17, 2014 3:56:12pm

re: #87 1Peter G1

I’m afraid there is much wishful thinking going on. The value of the stolen Swishers is irrelevant. The key evidence of the convenience store video is that it shows Michael Brown laying his hands on that clerk and moving toward him in a threatening manner. It kills the gentle giant narrative dead. He is twice the size of the clerk who is clearly fearful. You can bay at he moon that this is not relevant but it is. It isn’t minformation. It’s the truth. And it very likely did figure in later developments. Who knew what and who didn’t matters. So will all subsequent forensic evidence. That’s what a jury is going to see and hear and it is all that matters. The weight that any jury gives to the veracity of witnesses and what Michael Brown might have done will be influenced by it. And since the only person likely to find himself on trial is the officer no judge will be able to deny the use of this evidence to the defense.

In other words, “Derp.”

93 Stanley Sea  Aug 17, 2014 3:56:14pm

(don’t feed the troll)

94 Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2014 3:56:28pm

95 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 3:56:41pm

re: #87 1Peter G1

Wow so evidence very truth

96 BeachDem  Aug 17, 2014 3:57:02pm

re: #55 jaunte

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Quick, somebody fetch my sunglasses—the whiteness is blinding.

97 abolitionist  Aug 17, 2014 3:57:59pm

re: #87 1Peter G1

Words of wisdom from Richard Feynman: The easiest person to fool is yourself.

98 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 3:58:29pm

re: #96 BeachDem

Quick, somebody fetch my sunglasses—the whiteness is blinding.

OK, OK, I’ll put my pants on. Sheesh.

99 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2014 3:59:04pm

In case the troll missed it downstairs:

100 lostlakehiker  Aug 17, 2014 4:01:26pm

re: #29 Frenchy

It really is outrageous that the officer was allowed to skip town to God knows where. That is not the action of an innocent man, and that the department apparently knew about it and allowed it is yet another sign that their primary objective is to protect him at all costs, not to see that justice is done.

I get that there may be legitimate concerns for his safety since this has become a high-profile case, but I have to think that they could be addressed in some other way than for him to just vanish like a fart in the wind. (Here’s just one idea I had: Put him in a jail cell where he belongs.)

Hell, at this point I question whether he would even show up for trial, or whether the department might actually assist in keeping him hidden.

I expect that if he’s charged, he’ll show up promptly. I also expect that he’s not vanished from the point of view of the authorities, even if the general public doesn’t know where he is. It wouldn’t surprise me if his movements are limited and he’s wearing some sort of ankle device or what have you. If I wanted to protect a man against a lynching, didn’t have the evidence to charge him, and didn’t have evidence to exonerate him either, that would sort of cover the bases.

101 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 4:02:25pm

re: #87 1Peter G1

102 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 4:02:53pm
103 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 4:04:11pm

re: #101 Lidane

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Poor off.

104 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 4:04:43pm

re: #100 lostlakehiker

I expect that if he’s charged, he’ll show up promptly.

He executed an unarmed kid out in the open then skipped town with help from his fellow officers. You think he’s going to show up promptly if he gets charged with murder?

I can’t decide if you’re delusional or naive.

105 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 4:05:24pm

re: #103 thedopefishlives

Poor off.

Off enjoys it.

106 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 4:05:41pm
107 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2014 4:05:52pm

She thought it would be cute to retweet my Ferguson tweets to her followers.
What. An. Idiot.

108 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 4:05:55pm

I was caught right away by the sharp detection skills of a StL pundit.

109 stpaulbear  Aug 17, 2014 4:09:53pm

re: #106 Kid A

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Holy shit. Wow.

110 Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2014 4:10:51pm

@DarrenWilsonSTL

Bio: I killed Mike Brown. Donate to the KKK for my legal fund. 8816 Manda Ln, St. Louis, MO 63126. I’m on the run. Still got my gun, Still got my fun.

Nobody knows. kkk.com

111 Teukka  Aug 17, 2014 4:11:03pm

re: #108 jaunte

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I was caught right away by the sharp detection skills of a StL pundit.

Our dastardly plans are foiled! We’re doomed!///

112 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 4:11:25pm

Jeez, next time I’ll have to just run the caption on top in huge white letters with a black drop shadow.

113 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 4:12:21pm

I remember when David Sirota wanted more reporters thrown in prison.

This is a guy [Bob Novack] who is as pathetic as his tired old three piece suits. Especially if others are going to jail over this, he needs to either immedaitely come clean, or put be put in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison with the rest of the people who are (rightly or wrongly) headed to the slammer.

huffingtonpost.com

David not only had no problem letting Judith Miller rot but wanted the Prince of Darkness thrown in a cell too. I wonder what changed?

114 1Peter G1  Aug 17, 2014 4:15:34pm

re: #30 ausador

But then Brown picked up more which he did not pay for before leaving the store. This is why Dorian is facing no charges. He put the cigarillos back on the counter and took nothing when he left. Furthermore he did nothing to warrant any other charge like grab a clerk. But by his own admission when they came into conflict with Wilson, Brown handed Johnson the cigarillos he was carrying.

115 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 4:15:48pm

re: #109 stpaulbear

Holy shit. Wow.

Blocked.

116 psddluva4evah  Aug 17, 2014 4:15:54pm

I’m pretty sure this is NOT Marvel sanctioned, but still I liked the idea of it.

117 1Peter G1  Aug 17, 2014 4:17:39pm

re: #92 BongCrodny

I am unfamiliar with term but I’ll take a guess, contextually, at it’s meaning. I just something true that you find inconvenient and don’t want to hear.

118 sagehen  Aug 17, 2014 4:18:28pm

re: #104 Lidane

He executed an unarmed kid out in the open then skipped town with help from his fellow officers. You think he’s going to show up promptly if he gets charged with murder?

I can’t decide if you’re delusional or naive.

He’ll be charged with littering, for dropping a body in the street and leaving it there for hours.

(half//)

119 klys  Aug 17, 2014 4:18:43pm

120 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 4:19:55pm

re: #119 klys

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I’m a cat with a toy on my head. Your argument is invalid.

121 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 4:20:09pm

re: #100 lostlakehiker

That might actually make for an interesting FOIA (something Goldie or any other media outlets should pursue). Is Officer Wilson in contact with police authorities, etc. How are authorities supposed to contact/reach officer Wilson for further investigative purposes. Do they have a secret code? Wink wink. Nudge Nudge. Say. No More.

122 klys  Aug 17, 2014 4:20:48pm

re: #120 thedopefishlives

I’m a cat with a toy on my head. Your argument is invalid.

Makes as much sense, yes?

123 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 4:21:39pm

re: #114 1Peter G1

124 stpaulbear  Aug 17, 2014 4:21:40pm

re: #117 1Peter G1

“I am not familiar with all internet traditions.”

125 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 4:22:15pm

re: #117 1Peter G1

That’s not right. That’s not even wrong.

126 klys  Aug 17, 2014 4:22:42pm

re: #125 thedopefishlives

That’s not right. That’s not even wrong.

It’s not a complete sentence!

127 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 4:23:38pm

re: #117 1Peter G1

Wow so reply very concern

128 Ryan King  Aug 17, 2014 4:23:51pm

re: #87 1Peter G1

I’m afraid there is much wishful thinking going on…. It kills the gentle giant narrative dead.

The wishful thinking exists only in your head. It matters not one iota if Brown was an angel or a criminal: he was executed with absolutely no justification.

Why you’re on this straw man narrative I have no idea.

129 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 4:24:10pm

re: #117 1Peter G1

I am unfamiliar with term but I’ll take a guess, contextually, at it’s meaning. I just something true that you find inconvenient and don’t want to hear.

Did you have word salad for dinner?

130 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 4:24:15pm

re: #127 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow so reply very concern

Alouette, I think it’s time for you to get the heck out of Doge.

131 RadicalModerate  Aug 17, 2014 4:25:26pm

re: #87 1Peter G1

I’m afraid there is much wishful thinking going on. The value of the stolen Swishers is irrelevant. The key evidence of the convenience store video is that it shows Michael Brown laying his hands on that clerk and moving toward him in a threatening manner. It kills the gentle giant narrative dead. He is twice the size of the clerk who is clearly fearful. You can bay at he moon that this is not relevant but it is. It isn’t minformation. It’s the truth. And it very likely did figure in later developments. Who knew what and who didn’t matters. So will all subsequent forensic evidence. That’s what a jury is going to see and hear and it is all that matters. The weight that any jury gives to the veracity of witnesses and what Michael Brown might have done will be influenced by it. And since the only person likely to find himself on trial is the officer no judge will be able to deny the use of this evidence to the defense.

Just come out and say what you really mean.
“Brown was just a n****r thug like all of them and got what he deserved”

132 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 4:26:45pm

“Still, Hong Kong has a reputation for freedom in spite of the People’s Republic of China.” - Edward Snowden

133 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 4:27:00pm
134 urbanmeemaw  Aug 17, 2014 4:28:00pm

re: #118 sagehen

No, they’ll charge Mike Brown for littering.

135 Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2014 4:28:20pm

….

136 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2014 4:28:25pm
137 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 4:28:37pm

Boy howdy, I think we do have a live one on the line. The barbecue is hot and ready. Tonight’s flavor is applewood smoked because bacon, that’s why.

138 EPR-radar  Aug 17, 2014 4:29:23pm

re: #134 urbanmeemaw

No, they’ll charge Mike Brown for littering.

For unauthorized bleeding on city streets.

139 Ryan King  Aug 17, 2014 4:29:24pm

re: #135 Dr. Matt

Hey… THAT’S PHOTOSHOP!

140 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 4:29:54pm

141 RadicalModerate  Aug 17, 2014 4:30:17pm

re: #110 Dr. Matt

That post has personal information in it. That’s a big no-no.

142 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 4:30:40pm

re: #139 Ryan King

Hey… THAT’S PHOTOSHOP!

I knew it was a photoshop when I noticed the correct spelling.

143 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 4:30:57pm

WTFITS

144 urbanmeemaw  Aug 17, 2014 4:31:00pm

re: #138 EPR-radar

And failure to rise from the dead and clean up blood.

145 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 4:31:05pm
146 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2014 4:31:34pm

re: #137 thedopefishlives

Boy howdy, I think we do have a live one on the line. The barbecue is hot and ready. Tonight’s flavor is applewood smoked because bacon, that’s why.

Neighbor just brought me four dozen ears of sweet corn freshly picked from his garden. Roasted or steamed as a side for the BBQ?

147 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 4:32:12pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

Neighbor just brought me four dozen ears of sweet corn freshly picked from his garden. Roasted or steamed as a side for the BBQ?

You have to ask? Roast them sumbitches and let’s have ourselves a feast! I have a new corn basket for my BBQ.

148 nines09  Aug 17, 2014 4:32:42pm

re: #135 Dr. Matt

….

Exactly.

149 klys  Aug 17, 2014 4:33:15pm

re: #147 thedopefishlives

You have to ask? Roast them sumbitches and let’s have ourselves a feast! I have a new corn basket for my BBQ.

I want some of that to make a nice roasted corn salad. Some feta, cherry tomatoes, green onions, little bit of lime juice…

150 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 4:33:17pm

re: #143 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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A cop could have shot that guy, they do have a track record.

151 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 4:33:34pm

re: #143 Pie-onist Overlord

He’s scouring the internet for bad stories to create collective Ferguson guilt.

Jacqueline Baron of the 2000 block of Dunnegan Street in Alton traveled to Ferguson with an unknown male accomplice to meet Valiant. Once there, the two suspects allegedly tried to rob Valiant and shot him.
blogs.riverfronttimes.com

152 EPR-radar  Aug 17, 2014 4:34:58pm

re: #87 1Peter G1

We will face a test of the US justice system very soon. 12 jurors will need to decide whether to accept or reject this kind of racist drivel and victim blaming in a police shooting trial.

Honestly, this shouldn’t be on the jurors to deal with. The video from the incident at the store should be inadmissible evidence.

153 urbanmeemaw  Aug 17, 2014 4:36:00pm

re: #147 thedopefishlives

You have to ask? Roast them sumbitches and let’s have ourselves a feast! I have a new corn basket for my BBQ.

“Paging Mr. Troll, party of 3. Mr. Troll. Mr. Dope Fish is ready to serve - er - seat you now”.

154 Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2014 4:36:27pm

re: #148 nines09

Exactly.

Ha. I was trying to upload a new photo from my iPad keeps loading the previous photo. Weird.

155 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 4:36:46pm

re: #143 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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156 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 4:37:36pm

re: #153 urbanmeemaw

“Paging Mr. Troll, party of 3. Mr. Troll. Mr. Dope Fish is ready to serve - er - seat you now”.

SWIM, SWIM, HUNGRY…

157 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2014 4:38:24pm

re: #143 Pie-onist Overlord

WTFITS

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The people arrested a week later were from St. Louis, but that’s a pesky fact.

158 klys  Aug 17, 2014 4:38:37pm

I got a new shiny lamp for my embroidery stand.

I’m kind of worried though, it looks like the alien ships in the 1953 War of the Worlds.

159 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 17, 2014 4:38:48pm

re: #114 1Peter G1

But then Brown picked up more which he did not pay for before leaving the store. This is why Dorian is facing no charges. He put the cigarillos back on the counter and took nothing when he left. Furthermore he did nothing to warrant any other charge like grab a clerk. But by his own admission when they came into conflict with Wilson, Brown handed Johnson the cigarillos he was carrying.

Still don’t see what that has to do with shooting an unarmed and quite possibly surrendering man.

160 Ryan King  Aug 17, 2014 4:39:32pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

BBQ corn is the bomb diggity

161 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 4:39:37pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

The people arrested a week later were from St. Louis, but that’s a pesky fact.

We never let facts get in the way of a good OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!!!1!111

162 urbanmeemaw  Aug 17, 2014 4:39:37pm

re: #158 klys

Love your art work. Just beautiful.

163 klys  Aug 17, 2014 4:40:28pm

re: #162 urbanmeemaw

Love your art work. Just beautiful.

I can only take credit for the stitching. Someone else designs the patterns I follow.

But I will still appreciate the admiration. :)

164 WhatEVs  Aug 17, 2014 4:40:40pm

re: #138 EPR-radar

For unauthorized bleeding on city streets.

Good thing it wasn’t on their uniforms. That’ll get you a hell of a beating and jail time in Ferguson.

dailymail.co.uk

Oh, wait…this time they just cut to the chase.

165 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 4:41:41pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

The people arrested a week later were from St. Louis, but that’s a pesky fact.

How could an award winning journalist leave that part out?

166 Kilroy01  Aug 17, 2014 4:42:32pm

re: #143 Pie-onist Overlord

I don’t think he really cares about Lawrence Valiant..
Can you guess why?

167 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 4:42:45pm

Wow so journalism such award winning

168 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 4:43:58pm

re: #165 b.d.

How could an award winning journalist blogger leave that part out?

169 ausador  Aug 17, 2014 4:44:52pm

re: #151 jaunte

He’s scouring the internet for bad stories to create collective Ferguson guilt.

Had to go back to 2011 to find a murder too, totally shows how violent a town it is.

/

170 Ryan King  Aug 17, 2014 4:45:06pm
171 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 4:45:17pm
172 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 4:45:31pm

Wow so Blahs very journalism

173 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 4:46:14pm
174 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 4:46:28pm
175 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 4:47:45pm
176 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 4:47:54pm

re: #174 Lidane

What in the living fuck.

177 BeachDem  Aug 17, 2014 4:47:56pm

re: #129 Kid A

Did you have word salad for dinner?

Speaking of word salad, from the $arah Palin Grifter’s Weekly, this little gem:

We’re gonna tell you the truth, Marsha, and I know that you’ll be able then, relaying the truth back to us, and to those whom you are surrounded by and with.”

And the ultimate Wonkette comment:

If you tried to diagram that “sentence” it would look like the schematic for the space shuttle.

178 WhatEVs  Aug 17, 2014 4:48:14pm

re: #152 EPR-radar

We will face a test of the US justice system very soon. 12 jurors will need to decide whether to accept or reject this kind of racist drivel and victim blaming in a police shooting trial.

Honestly, this shouldn’t be on the jurors to deal with. The video from the incident at the store should be inadmissible evidence.

There should be outside investigators who have authority and no relationship to law enforcement. Police are ways given wide latitude by the general populace, which normally I’d say was good, but there are just too damn many dead people and virtually zero accountability.

I’m anything but a Scott Walker fan but what he signed into law was good legislation. Any dead citizen (or non-citizen for that matter) deserves to have a vigorous investigation into their death by cop. If it’s a righteous shooting, fine. But to just allow it because there’re cops is bad policy.

179 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 4:49:27pm
180 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 4:50:20pm

re: #177 BeachDem

Speaking of word salad, from the $arah Palin Grifter’s Weekly, this little gem:

We’re gonna tell you the truth, Marsha, and I know that you’ll be able then, relaying the truth back to us, and to those whom you are surrounded by and with.”

And the ultimate Wonkette comment:

If you tried to diagram that “sentence” it would look like the schematic for the space shuttle.

Well the schematic for the Space Shuttle was an Actual Thing That Went To Outer Space & Back

181 CarolJ  Aug 17, 2014 4:50:42pm

re: #179 Kid A

But even here, it looks like at the most once a year. Hardly a hotbed of crime.

182 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 4:51:59pm

In Which Chuck C. Johnson Shoots A Screen With Caps

183 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 4:52:16pm

re: #167 Pie-onist Overlord

Yes, lets go ahead and inform the public about just how violent Ferguson is. Except that surrounding communities are more so (figures for the most recent year - 2013).

Murders - 9.4 per 100,000 (2 actually committed).
Rapes - 14.1 per 100,000.
Robberies - 1,163 per 100,000.
No arsons were reported for 2013.

Overall rate - 381.1 per 100,000. That’s somewhat above average (meaning more crime overall than average community).

US rates are here (most recent year 2012).

184 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 4:52:28pm

re: #174 Lidane

OH, that must be a Photoshop, people just couldn’t think things that ugly!!!

185 prairiefire  Aug 17, 2014 4:52:31pm

My brother on Facebook says Michael Brown was grabbing for the cop’s gun. How he knows, I have no idea.

186 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 4:52:57pm

re: #185 prairiefire

My brother on Facebook says Michael Brown was grabbing for the cop’s gun. How he knows, I have no idea.

Fox News told him.

187 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 4:53:01pm

re: #185 prairiefire

From 35 feet away. Big kid.

188 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 4:53:14pm

re: #187 jaunte

From 35 feet away. Big kid.

I’d be skeered of him.

189 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 4:53:36pm

And He Caps Another Screen In The Ass

190 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 4:54:02pm

Fucking screen caps, how do they work?

191 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 4:54:55pm

re: #189 Pie-onist Overlord

And He Caps Another Screen In The Ass

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Ok, I’m afraid that I’m actually going to have and see a copy of that journalism award.

192 WhatEVs  Aug 17, 2014 4:55:31pm

re: #177 BeachDem

Speaking of word salad, from the $arah Palin Grifter’s Weekly, this little gem:

We’re gonna tell you the truth, Marsha, and I know that you’ll be able then, relaying the truth back to us, and to those whom you are surrounded by and with.”

And the ultimate Wonkette comment:

If you tried to diagram that “sentence” it would look like the schematic for the space shuttle.

The communications major (five years of university, too, and!) strikes again.

193 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2014 4:56:08pm

Jesus..I live in a sparsely populated area (about 14,000 people in my entire county and 99.2% white) of eastern Kentucky.
We have more murders than Ferguson.

194 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 4:56:25pm

HURR HURR FASTFOOD MINIMUMWAGE LAZY MOOCHBAGS HERE IS UR FUTURE!!!!!!

195 Stanley Sea  Aug 17, 2014 4:56:48pm
196 WhatEVs  Aug 17, 2014 4:57:08pm

re: #187 jaunte

From 35 feet away. Big kid.

He was a super hero with stretchy arms. Shot with kryptonite - or whatever his kryptonite was.

197 CarolJ  Aug 17, 2014 4:57:16pm

I think these cases should be under Federal jurisdiction, and if an amendment in the Constitution was needed, held in another state. True, these days media goes everywhere, but having jurors who don’t even live there try a case like this would make it possible to have some fair justice.

Secondly, I think we ought to raise standards for cops. How about a 4 year degree in the humanities? A four year degree would at least expose a potential cop to the diverse world out there and lessen the prejudice. And a cop would have to serve a year elsewhere before serving in their hometown.
Crazy?

I would also have a cop sabbatical; one thing that seems to make things worse is the untreated PTSD some cops have. Getting them away for a year or so might actually help them heal, regain their humanity.

198 BeachDem  Aug 17, 2014 4:57:16pm

re: #151 jaunte

He’s scouring the internet for bad stories to create collective Ferguson guilt.

So he found an article about somebody from Ferguson who was killed by somebody who was not from Ferguson, who was caught and went on trial and this is relevant to the current situation? I swear, little Chucky C has completely gone off the rails.

It’s just killing him that nobody gives a single fuck about Chris McDaniel and Chucky C’s BIG STORY.

199 prairiefire  Aug 17, 2014 4:57:29pm

re: #186 Lidane

Fox News told him.

I like it better when he posts photos of the fish he catches. Oooff, he can drive me crazy.

200 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 4:57:57pm

re: #183 lawhawk

Yes, lets go ahead and inform the public about just how violent Ferguson is. Except that surrounding communities are more so (figures for the most recent year - 2013).

Murders - 9.4 per 100,000 (2 actually committed).
Rapes - 14.1 per 100,000.
Robberies - 1,163 per 100,000.
No arsons were reported for 2013.

Overall rate - 381.1 per 100,000. That’s somewhat above average (meaning more crime overall than average community).

US rates are here (most recent year 2012).

I’m sure it is a less violent place if you subtract all of the police committed offenses.

201 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 4:58:01pm

Wow so accuracy very prize-winning

202 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 4:58:26pm

HONEY I SHRUNK TEH JOURNALISMS!!!!

203 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 4:58:44pm
204 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 4:58:51pm

re: #201 Pie-onist Overlord

“Reply hazy try again”

205 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 4:59:17pm

re: #201 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow so accuracy very prize-winning

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Chuckie is also very famous for his photos of Bigfoot

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206 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 4:59:27pm

re: #201 Pie-onist Overlord

Hey Chuck, how the FUCK does this have anything to do with the police gunning down an unarmed kid who was running away? Hmm?

207 Kragar  Aug 17, 2014 4:59:40pm
208 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 5:00:36pm

re: #206 thedopefishlives

C.C.J. is running with the Ferguson is a WAR ZONE narrative.

209 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 5:01:19pm
210 ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2014 5:01:39pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

Neighbor just brought me four dozen ears of sweet corn freshly picked from his garden. Roasted or steamed as a side for the BBQ?

Steam is fine if need be and it is quick. But I offer a small trick in how it is done if I may.

Take the nicer green husk (no silk) from the corn and build them up in the bottom of a large pot. Pour in the water for the steaming, but not enough to rise above the husks in the bottom of the pan, counting for the weight of the cleaned ears to press down and get in the water. You want it so the ears never really touch the water. So, basically very little water. Get the water boiling to create the steam, dump the ears in the pan and steam for about 10 minutes. Sometimes the bottom ear or two might get in the water, but all the upper ears will just get the steam. The bottom ears will be fine if not soaking.

The steam rising through all the husks give a nice overall taste to the corn. Sounds weird but it works. Nice crisp corn ready to pop out. Yum.

211 ausador  Aug 17, 2014 5:02:10pm
212 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 5:02:27pm

re: #208 jaunte

Where only the cops have shot and killed an unarmed black man. And where the cops are running around in full body armor and armored vehicles. If anyone is creating a war zone, it’s the St. Louis County police, who have militarized the situation all while giving cover to the Ferguson PD whose officer killed Mike Brown.

213 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 5:03:14pm

JSMFH

214 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 5:03:46pm

re: #208 jaunte

C.C.J. is running with the Ferguson is a WAR ZONE narrative.

My question still stands. War zone or not, what gives them the right to shoot an unarmed kid in the back while running away? Hint to the clueless: NOTHING.

215 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 5:03:59pm
216 dholmes32  Aug 17, 2014 5:04:25pm

Ann Leckie pretty much completed her sweep of the literary science fiction awards today by picking up the Hugo for her first novel Ancillary Justice.

The Guardian

I’ve read the book (several times) and really recommend it. In addition to a nicely-plotted story, Leckie novel is revolutionary in its treatment of gender, up there with LeGuin’s The Left Hand of Darkness.

Some of you may be familiar with the person known as “Vox Day.” He came in sixth on a five person ballot for “Best Novella,” behind “No Vote.” *smirk*

217 klys  Aug 17, 2014 5:05:24pm

re: #199 prairiefire

I like it better when he posts photos of the fish he catches. Oooff, he can drive me crazy.

I have family on a separate list for reasons like this.

218 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 17, 2014 5:05:41pm

re: #75 CarolJ

They support the police because they are scared of black folk-and of hearing the truth. These are the kind of people who roll up their window when going through a “sketchy” neighborhood where people sit on their porches and in their driveways.

They would never even go through Ferguson, let alone protest there, because “scary black people”. These folks would even be scared of kids and grannies, let alone young black people.

One thing I’m gratified. They are mostly old with a few grandkids maybe dragged into this. If I make another 10-20 years, they will be gone, and the atmosphere greatly improved by their absence.

Michael Bolton?

Youtube Video

219 teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2014 5:06:13pm
220 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 5:06:41pm

re: #213 Pie-onist Overlord

And how many of the crimes committed, including the looting this past week were by outsiders? Oh wait. What? You mean he’s willing to lump all crime occurring in Ferguson on Ferguson, but now attributes other crimes elsewhere to Ferguson residents.

That’s some pretty rich logic there. Quite fertile when you’re pushing fecal matter at inhuman levels.

221 psddluva4evah  Aug 17, 2014 5:06:50pm
222 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 5:07:55pm

re: #221 psddluva4evah

There are people out there who will support any cause, no matter how derpy, simply because it is there.

223 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 5:08:20pm

DEMS ARE THE REAL RACISTS!

224 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 5:08:27pm

re: #222 thedopefishlives

There are people out there who will support any cause, no matter how derpy, simply because it is there.

Like this==>

225 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 17, 2014 5:08:36pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

Neighbor just brought me four dozen ears of sweet corn freshly picked from his garden. Roasted or steamed as a side for the BBQ?

Just throw them directly on the grill. Char the heck out of the husk on all sides. The blacker the better. Then remove, let sit for a bit, and remove husks over a garbage can to contain some of the mess. Butter. Salt. Pepper. Good corn = keep it simple.

226 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 5:09:10pm

re: #223 b.d.

DEMS ARE THE REAL RACISTS!

That’s a white supremacist Twitter account. Just sayin’

227 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 5:09:46pm

re: #223 b.d.

Good grief. That’s a whole raft of racist stereotypes.

228 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 5:11:05pm
229 ausador  Aug 17, 2014 5:11:52pm

re: #201 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow so accuracy very prize-winning

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One robbery suspect who shot at a county officer and was in return shot to death is now evidence that people in Ferguson “routinely shooting at police officers”

???

230 Kragar  Aug 17, 2014 5:11:53pm

re: #224 Pie-onist Overlord

Like this==>

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231 teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2014 5:13:44pm

re: #228 Kid A

Silly me, I forgot the hashtag storm!

/

232 HappyWarrior  Aug 17, 2014 5:13:51pm

re: #230 Kragar

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I remember hearing that about Fred Thompson from cons too. Guy couldn’t manage a single primary win much like Pitiful Perry.

233 stpaulbear  Aug 17, 2014 5:13:58pm

re: #221 psddluva4evah

Ryan should have then asked her how she felt after she shot an unarmed man 8 times.

234 BongCrodny  Aug 17, 2014 5:13:59pm

re: #117 1Peter G1

I am unfamiliar with term but I’ll take a guess, contextually, at it’s meaning. I just something true that you find inconvenient and don’t want to hear.

Inconvenient? That’s what you take out of this?

If you’re advocating that it’s okay to kill an unarmed man trying to surrender, I’ve got nothing more to say to you.

Ever.

235 bubba zanetti  Aug 17, 2014 5:15:09pm
236 HappyWarrior  Aug 17, 2014 5:15:20pm

re: #223 b.d.

DEMS ARE THE REAL RACISTS!

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Nice Anti-Semitic caricature there too. Not even trying to hide out the fact that they’re a bigoted kook. Typical conservative whiner though. Waaaaah white person getting rightfully called out for a cold blooded murder means that whitey is the real victim here.

237 BeachDem  Aug 17, 2014 5:15:23pm

re: #201 Pie-onist Overlord

Wow so accuracy very prize-winning

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The article in that one is from 1999.

Chucky C is crying out for help. Won’t someone please take the phone off his ear and the keyboard out of his hands. (for the children)

238 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 5:15:25pm

If people think that Ferguson is dangerous, what are they saying about the Bundy ranch? The population is a fraction of the total, and the crimes include trespassing, threatening federal officers, etc.

The only reason there wasn’t a body count is the federal law enforcement didn’t want to have a body count.

In Ferguson, you’ve got a police department trying to make excuses for one.

239 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 17, 2014 5:16:04pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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240 Kragar  Aug 17, 2014 5:17:47pm
241 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2014 5:18:16pm
242 teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2014 5:18:32pm
243 HappyWarrior  Aug 17, 2014 5:20:19pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well that explains Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc’s entire careers.

244 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 17, 2014 5:20:35pm
245 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 5:21:04pm

HURR HURR U CAN’T TAKE TEH TROOF!!!!!

246 Kilroy01  Aug 17, 2014 5:22:22pm
247 HappyWarrior  Aug 17, 2014 5:22:41pm

re: #245 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR U CAN’T TAKE TEH TROOF!!!!!

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Maybe it’s a hell hole because of bigots like you Chucky.

248 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 5:22:45pm

re: #245 Pie-onist Overlord

Excitable misgrammar spoilt his bone mot.

249 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 5:23:11pm

re: #246 Kilroy01

‘SHOPPED!

250 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 5:23:45pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m pretty sure Socrates did not say that. Or if he did he would have said “hemlock” instead of “slander”

251 HappyWarrior  Aug 17, 2014 5:23:46pm

re: #246 Kilroy01

Missing spelling included for free

Of course.

252 Kilroy01  Aug 17, 2014 5:23:51pm

re: #249 jaunte

Damn.. caught me.. Shucks

253 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 5:23:59pm
254 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 5:24:54pm
255 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 17, 2014 5:25:11pm

re: #87 1Peter G1

Why lookee there! There you just trying to find that truth we all keep missing!

256 BongCrodny  Aug 17, 2014 5:25:23pm

re: #245 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR U CAN’T TAKE TEH TROOF!!!!!

Pointing out that you #Ferguson is a hell hole doesn’t make you racist; it makes you observant. Consider me guilty.

There are a heck of a lot of words I could use to describe Charles C. Johnson, but I doubt if “observant” is even in the top 100.

257 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 5:25:27pm

(Yesterday)

258 HappyWarrior  Aug 17, 2014 5:25:40pm

re: #254 jaunte

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What the fuck.

259 teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2014 5:26:25pm

re: #257 jaunte

(Yesterday)

All my troubles seems so far away…

260 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 17, 2014 5:27:01pm

re: #258 HappyWarrior

What the fuck.

I remember seeing pictures back in the 80’s of SWAT officers with duct tape over their badges.

261 BeachDem  Aug 17, 2014 5:27:02pm

re: #232 HappyWarrior

I remember hearing that about Fred Thompson from cons too. Guy couldn’t manage a single primary win much like Pitiful Perry.

And don’t forget “America’s Mayor” Rudy G—he was another one we were fearful of.

262 darthstar  Aug 17, 2014 5:28:20pm

re: #259 teleskiguy

All my troubles seems so far away…

The smell of tear gas is now here to stay…

263 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 5:28:21pm

Simple legislative change. Make it illegal for any law enforcement officer in uniform to be without their name/badge number. They must be identified at all times.

264 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 5:28:49pm

265 darthstar  Aug 17, 2014 5:29:15pm

re: #263 lawhawk

Simple legislative change. Make it illegal for any law enforcement officer in uniform to be without their name/badge number. They must be identified at all times.

Badge number is on their badges.

266 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2014 5:29:27pm

re: #250 Pie-onist Overlord

I’m pretty sure Socrates did not say that. Or if he did he would have said “hemlock” instead of “slander”

I’m tired and didn’t bother to look it up.
my bad.

267 teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2014 5:29:58pm

re: #262 darthstar

The smell of tear gas is now here to stay…

Why he [Mike Brown] had to go I don’t know, the PD wouldn’t say…

268 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 5:30:20pm
269 Stanley Sea  Aug 17, 2014 5:30:27pm

re: #264 jaunte

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So the cops were trying to commandeer the McDonalds for the apple pies?

270 teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2014 5:30:56pm

re: #263 lawhawk

Simple legislative change. Make it illegal for any law enforcement officer in uniform to be without their name/badge number. They must be identified at all times.

I wear a name tag at the ski shop, why shouldn’t cops have to? They work for us, right?

271 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 17, 2014 5:32:41pm

re: #269 Stanley Sea

re: #264 jaunte

Mistaken for the hamburglar?

272 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 5:33:22pm
273 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 5:34:07pm
274 teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2014 5:34:10pm

This Village Voice article makes me want to start a tire fire.

275 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 5:34:31pm

re: #265 darthstar

Make it more visible, and that they must have both the name and badge number visible.

276 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 5:34:52pm

re: #274 teleskiguy

This Village Voicearticle makes me want to start a tire fire.

Now, now. Why burn tires when desks will do just fine?

277 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 5:35:17pm
278 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 5:35:18pm
279 WhatEVs  Aug 17, 2014 5:35:31pm

re: #270 teleskiguy

I wear a name tag at the ski shop, why shouldn’t cops have to? They work for us, right?

A mistaken assumption. Much like our elected officials rarely work for Us these days.

280 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 5:36:46pm

Oh and:

This afternoon I took my son from Toronto & his kids to visit the street in Detroit where I grew up.

Anyway we were standing in front of the house & gawking & taking pictures like a bunch of freaking tourists (it is a very quiet neighborhood) & the lady comes out of the house wants to know what we are so interested in.

It turns out not only does she live in the house but is a realtor so of course wants to know if any of the fixtures are part of the original so she invited us in for a tour.

I am very pleased that most of the original fixtures are intact and I am especially pleased that this house is beautifully maintained and the neighborhood has been declared a “historic treasure.”

281 teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2014 5:36:48pm

re: #276 thedopefishlives

Now, now. Why burn tires when desks will do just fine?

I thought we were out of desks. :-P

282 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 5:37:21pm

re: #281 teleskiguy

The desks are now mounted on axles for continuous flippage.

283 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 17, 2014 5:37:57pm
284 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 5:39:48pm

re: #281 teleskiguy

I thought we were out of desks. :-P

RBS finally got his gasoline-impregnated balsawood desks idea off the ground. We’ve been flush with desks of fiery doom ever since.

285 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 5:41:29pm

Ferguson on Twitter. How the hashtag ebbed and flowed from after Brown’s death.

286 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 5:41:50pm

Oops somebody is offended

287 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 5:42:14pm

“When they kill each other, we never hear about it,” one of the Starbucks women said. This, she meant, was a good thing. “When it’s black-on-black violence, we never hear about it.”

I asked why she thought that was.

“Because, basically, they hate whites!” her friend chimed in. “Prejudice, reverse prejudice. Prejudice goes both way

288 Charles Johnson  Aug 17, 2014 5:42:27pm

289 Jenner7  Aug 17, 2014 5:42:28pm

Trolls giving Wesley a hard time for reporting…FACTS. Aholes.

290 Kilroy01  Aug 17, 2014 5:43:08pm

re: #264 jaunte

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There have got to be lawyers salivating at this.
Ferguson’s is so corrupt and the county isn’t any better.
That is what you get when you clone the Chiefs.

291 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 5:43:12pm
A major problem with the protests—and they very clearly did not mean the militarized police response to the protests—was that they were tarnishing St. Louis’s image as a nice place.
newrepublic.com
292 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 5:45:01pm
293 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 5:45:02pm

re: #288 Charles Johnson

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PHOTOSHOP!!!!

294 BeachDem  Aug 17, 2014 5:45:26pm

re: #280 Pie-onist Overlord

That is a gorgeous house.

295 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 17, 2014 5:45:40pm

re: #287 jaunte

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I’m embarrassed to say I’m from St. Louis,” the “bullshit” woman grumbled.

“Me, too,” said her friend. “I don’t tell people I’m from St. Louis anymore.”

“This is not representative of St. Louis,” said one of the older women, back at Starbucks. “St. Louis is a good place. And Ferguson is a very good place.”

“We have never had anything like this in St. Louis!” her friend exclaimed, flustered, as if trying to clear the city’s good name. “Ever!”

Why does this strike me as belonging in 1958 Alabama where the white folks think “their Negros” were peaceable until those outside agitators came in and riled them up?

296 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 5:46:30pm

re: #295 Aunty Entity Dragon

“What will the neighbors say?”

297 teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2014 5:46:33pm

re: #292 Kid A

If this doesn’t SCREAM white privilege I don’t know what does. Dude is dumber than a box of shit.

298 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 5:47:11pm

re: #292 Kid A

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Aw Chuckie had his fireworks taken away by a cop once?

I guess he can relate then.

//

299 darthstar  Aug 17, 2014 5:49:07pm

re: #293 b.d.

PHOTOSHOP!!!!

Yeah…the 1 after the three exclamation points gave it away. Plus she spelled “White” correctly.

300 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 17, 2014 5:49:37pm

re: #297 teleskiguy

If this doesn’t SCREAM white privilege I don’t know what does. Dude is dumber than a box of shit.

#whiteguyproblems

301 stpaulbear  Aug 17, 2014 5:50:00pm

re: #292 Kid A

…at 2:00am.

302 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 5:51:12pm

re: #292 Kid A

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NO FIRECRACKER, NO PEACE!

303 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 17, 2014 5:51:55pm

re: #300 Aunty Entity Dragon

#whiteguyproblems

Jesus…I was just being sarcastic with that tag and it turned out to be real…

304 Kragar  Aug 17, 2014 5:52:15pm
305 Teukka  Aug 17, 2014 5:54:40pm

re: #276 thedopefishlives

Now, now. Why burn tires when desks will do just fine?

*Backs in lorry with desks and a couple of barrels of Napalm*

Read this one at your own risk:

The lows some will go to…
*smh*

306 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 5:54:48pm
307 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 5:54:52pm

HURR HURR WE SETTLE DIFFERENCE WITH A SIX GUN!!! BRING IT ON LIBTARDS!!!!!

308 BeachDem  Aug 17, 2014 5:55:25pm

re: #292 Kid A

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Talk about your first-world-white-people-problems. A cop took his fireworks—where is my fainting couch.

309 teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2014 5:55:39pm
310 WhatEVs  Aug 17, 2014 5:56:01pm

re: #280 Pie-onist Overlord

That’s a stunning home.

311 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 5:56:07pm

re: #307 Pie-onist Overlord

No, we settle political differences with impeachment.

312 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 17, 2014 5:57:13pm

More #whiteguyproblems

It turns out there is nation wide shortage of .22 rimfire ammo, which is the cheapest and most popular target shooting caliber in the country.

Wingnuts have apparently convinced themselves Obama is coming for their squirrel guns and juniors boy scout target rifle, and the nation wide stock of .22 rimfire is gone. Really gone. I went to Gander Mtn a couple days ago to pick up some .22 to take my kid shooting, and they said there was a line out the door the last time they had any in, which had been a couple weeks back.

Luckily, I had about 300 rounds still in the box, and I ended up sharing that with several friends yesterday who couldn’t find any.22 either.

Freaked out paranoid wingnuts.

The guys at Gander Mtn seem to be getting tired of InfoWars style gun grabbing rumors.

313 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 5:57:25pm
314 Charles Johnson  Aug 17, 2014 5:57:49pm
315 stpaulbear  Aug 17, 2014 5:58:02pm

re: #305 Teukka

*Backs in lorry with desks and a couple of barrels of Napalm*

Have you ever considered signing up for the Ikea ‘frequent smasher’ program? You get free meatballs after the first six months.

316 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 6:00:51pm
317 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 6:01:23pm
318 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 6:01:40pm

re: #316 Kid A

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I’m starting to think that Chuckie’s journalism award was in the form of a golden shovel

319 BongCrodny  Aug 17, 2014 6:03:08pm

re: #292 Kid A

…fire works stolen on 4th of July by a cop.

I could be wrong about this, but I’d bet a more accurate translation of that whine would be “fireworks confiscated by a cop because they’re illegal in my state.”

320 teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2014 6:03:17pm

GATOR

321 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 17, 2014 6:03:52pm

re: #315 stpaulbear

I seem to have a new medical problem. You guys better look out. it’s flipdesk repetitive motion disorder. When the news is so bad so often well we flip that damn desk so often we wear out those delicate joints in our wrists elbows and in extreme cases shoulders.

The best solution is the new pneumatic flipping desk. Just push a button and voila! Desk flips over, catches fire and flies out the window. Voice command optional.

322 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 6:03:56pm

re: #316 Kid A

And how many black guys were arrested for looking like some other black guy. Heck, Ferguson did that one time, and then charged the guy for dirtying the uniforms of several policemen with his blood after they beat him silly.

323 Kragar  Aug 17, 2014 6:04:57pm
324 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 17, 2014 6:05:28pm

re: #309 teleskiguy

Come see the violence inherent in the system!

I actually acted that scene out with a Cobra gunship pilot out on the flightline in Korea in front of our unit commander, who had never seen the Holy Grail. He just stared at us for several minutes as the pilot picked me up in my flightsuit yelling Will you shut up! Will you shut up! while I called out ‘Elp! ‘Elp! I’m being repessed! Come see the violence inherent in the system!

We finally took pity on the Captain and let him borrow the movie. He was the only person on post at Camp Mobil who had not seen it :)

325 Single-handed sailor  Aug 17, 2014 6:05:28pm

re: #320 teleskiguy

GATOR

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They have 1,000 pound gators in Denver?

326 stpaulbear  Aug 17, 2014 6:05:30pm

re: #316 Kid A

Christ, how many seconds will it take until someone responds to him that at least he wasn’t plugged before the cops realized the error? What a setup. What a fool.

327 WhatEVs  Aug 17, 2014 6:05:31pm

re: #318 b.d.

I’m starting to think that Chuckie’s journalism award was in the form of a golden shovel

He got an award from a Fox media sponsored group. Whoopdeedoo

328 Stanley Sea  Aug 17, 2014 6:06:20pm

re: #320 teleskiguy

GATOR

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SAD

329 darthstar  Aug 17, 2014 6:06:29pm

re: #325 Single-handed sailor

They have 1,000 pound gators in Denver?

The pot give them the munchies.

330 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 6:06:40pm

re: #327 Joanne

Participation ribbon with a Shill cluster.

331 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 17, 2014 6:07:10pm

re: #322 lawhawk

And how many black guys were arrested for looking like some other black guy. Heck, Ferguson did that one time, and then charged the guy for dirtying the uniforms of several policemen with his blood after they beat him silly.

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This sounds like something from a Jospeh Heller novel…but it really happened.

332 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 6:07:25pm

re: #325 Single-handed sailor

They have 1,000 pound gators in Denver?

Less competition up there, all the trouts they want.

333 darthstar  Aug 17, 2014 6:08:03pm

I don’t understand why people feed that other Charles Johnson troll. He’s got zero moral compass and obviously feeds on the attention.

334 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 6:08:35pm
335 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 6:09:46pm

re: #334 Kid A

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Oh the oppression!

The mall cops followed Chuckie out of Spencers on their Segways

336 darthstar  Aug 17, 2014 6:09:52pm

re: #334 Kid A

“rent a cops” - is this guy still in his early twenties?

337 teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2014 6:10:35pm

re: #328 Stanley Sea

SAD

I knew someone would say this. I think so, too. But I also live in the middle of elk country, the first rifle season starts in a month. Rifle hunting in Colorado keeps a lot of little towns like Meeker and Kremmling afloat financially.

Comes with being removed from the food chain.

338 Stanley Sea  Aug 17, 2014 6:10:45pm

re: #336 darthstar

“rent a cops” - is this guy still in his early twenties?

Believe so.

339 Charles Johnson  Aug 17, 2014 6:11:21pm
340 allegro  Aug 17, 2014 6:11:27pm

re: #334 Kid A

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I don’t think pointing and laughing as he walked by count as stalking. He looks like an extra in a Hobbit movie.

341 Ryan King  Aug 17, 2014 6:12:21pm
342 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 17, 2014 6:13:55pm

So where does CCJ live? What are the crime statistics for his town?

343 BeachDem  Aug 17, 2014 6:14:15pm

re: #319 BongCrodny

I could be wrong about this, but I’d bet a more accurate translation of that whine would be “fireworks confiscated by a cop because they’re illegal in my state.”

Yeah, that was my thought, but ChuckyC cleared it up by telling us he was WRONGLY arrested because he shares a name with a BLACK dude.

Now I need a NEW fainting couch.

344 Dark_Falcon  Aug 17, 2014 6:14:24pm

re: #325 Single-handed sailor

They have 1,000 pound gators in Denver?

Yes, they guard one of the doors under the airport one must pass through in order to reach the nitrogen-filled chamber of our Lizard King.

345 teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2014 6:16:35pm

re: #344 Dark_Falcon

Yes, they guard one of the doors under the airport one must pass through in order to reach the nitrogen-filled chamber of our Lizard King.

It’s under the airport. It cost elventy trillion dollars to construct but that’s a small price to pay to protect our Lizard King.

Wonder what sort of insubordination resulted in this gator’s dispatching.

346 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 6:16:59pm

re: #325 Single-handed sailor

They have 1,000 pound gators in Denver?

Left over from the Tebow years.

347 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 6:17:12pm

re: #320 teleskiguy

That looks like the promo for a new reality show.

348 BeachDem  Aug 17, 2014 6:17:14pm

re: #334 Kid A

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Clue-fucking-one, Chucky C, rent-a-cops aren’t the police. (And I highly doubt you were stalked by anybody in Mississippi or anywhere else but your fertile imagination.)

349 Dark_Falcon  Aug 17, 2014 6:17:38pm

re: #345 teleskiguy

It’s under the airport. It cost elventy trillion dollars to construct but that’s a small price to pay to protect our Lizard King.

Wonder what sort of insubordination resulted in this gator’s dispatching.

He went Full Mental Wingnut, of course. Why do you think they found him in Alabama?

350 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 6:18:19pm

re: #336 darthstar

“rent a cops” - is this guy still in his early twenties?

351 BeachDem  Aug 17, 2014 6:19:00pm

re: #342 GlutenFreeJesus

So where does CCJ live? What are the crime statistics for his town?

His “give me money ‘cause I don’t want to work” whine goes to Clovis, CA, but that might just be where his award-winning research endeavor is based.

352 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 6:19:08pm

Except for the sexism at the end.

353 teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2014 6:19:17pm

re: #349 Dark_Falcon

He went Full Mental Wingnut, of course. Why do you think they found him in Alabama?

Think of the support networks along the way, from the Lizard King entrance in Denver all the way to Alabama! There’s a whole lot of seditious reptiles out there.

354 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 6:20:06pm

OH wow I got a retweet from Chucky C!

355 b.d.  Aug 17, 2014 6:20:17pm

As we reported yesterday, Brown is one of at least four unarmed black men who died at the hands of police in the last month alone.

m.motherjones.com

356 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 6:21:45pm
357 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 6:22:46pm

re: #356 Kid A

Assuming the contention, the fault for this lies… where?

358 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 17, 2014 6:22:48pm

Nice to know we are keeping Egypt company:

WASHINGTON — Amnesty International has taken “unprecedented” action to deal with the situation in Ferguson, Missouri, by sending resources the human rights group has never deployed inside the United States.

The organization has been on the ground in Ferguson since Thursday, sending a 13-person human rights delegation to the city in the wake of the Aug. 9 police shooting death of Michael Brown.

Jasmine Heiss, a senior campaigner with Amnesty who is a part of the team in Ferguson, said the use of the “cross-functional team” — which she said included community trainers, researchers, and human rights observers — was “unprecedented” within the United States for the group.

On Saturday, after Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon declared a state of emergency and put a curfew in place in Ferguson, Amnesty International USA’s executive director, Steven W. Hawkins, issued a scathing statement.

“We criticize dictators for quelling dissent and silencing protestors with tactics like curfews, we’ll certainly speak out when it’s happening in our own backyard,” he said. “The people of Ferguson have the right to protest peacefully the lack of accountability for Michael Brown’s shooting.”

buzzfeed.com

359 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 6:25:04pm

What does that tell us? It tells us that Republicans control municipalities where only white people live.

360 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 6:26:52pm
361 Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2014 6:28:03pm
362 darthstar  Aug 17, 2014 6:28:08pm

re: #346 b.d.

Left over from the Tebow years.

Is that fucker selling used cars yet? I don’t take much stock in athletes as a general rule, but I did enjoy watching him flame out of professional football in the space of a few years.

363 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2014 6:28:23pm

re: #360 Kid A

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gang signs!!11!!!

364 BeachDem  Aug 17, 2014 6:28:40pm

The scariest thing I found out looking at ChuckyC’s twitter feed is that he is married—so there is a Mrs. ChuckyC (hoping there are no offspring.) And, of course, that he is a dick about every topic and should stay away from trying to be funny, because he’s not.

365 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 6:29:09pm

What is white people rioting after sports championships a result of?

366 teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2014 6:29:10pm

Add this to the innumerable reasons why Facebook sucks.

367 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 6:29:32pm
368 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2014 6:29:46pm

re: #364 BeachDem

The scariest thing I found out looking at ChuckyC’s twitter feed is that he is married—so there is a Mrs. ChuckyC (hoping there are no offspring.) And, of course, that he is a dick about every topic and should stay away from trying to be funny, because he’s not.

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IIRC, he lives at his mother-in-law’s house.

369 BeachDem  Aug 17, 2014 6:31:06pm

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

IIRC, he lives at his mother-in-law’s house.

Well isn’t that fitting. (Wonder if he blogs in the basement while wearing his jammies?)

370 Stanley Sea  Aug 17, 2014 6:31:20pm

re: #362 darthstar

Is that fucker selling used cars yet? I don’t take much stock in athletes as a general rule, but I did enjoy watching him flame out of professional football in the space of a few years.

Commentator on the SEC channel.

You old grump.

371 lawhawk  Aug 17, 2014 6:32:33pm

re: #367 Lidane

Shoot first, ask questions later (and after the officer in question skips town)

372 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 6:33:24pm
373 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 6:34:02pm

re: #371 lawhawk

Shoot first, ask questions later (and after the officer in question skips town)

Yeah, but only if the suspect is brown or black.

If he’s a white guy? Not so much.

374 BongCrodny  Aug 17, 2014 6:34:30pm

re: #359 Pie-onist Overlord

What’s really amazing is all the incidents of police killing black men are municipalities controlled by democrats…what does that tell us?

Wait a minute, I think I know this one…

You’re an idiot.

Is that it?

375 Kid A  Aug 17, 2014 6:35:29pm

re: #369 BeachDem

Well isn’t that fitting. (Wonder if he blogs in the basement while wearing his jammies?)

376 allegro  Aug 17, 2014 6:36:33pm

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

IIRC, he lives at his mother-in-law’s house.

His parents are too embarrassed.

377 Eventual Carrion  Aug 17, 2014 6:36:42pm

re: #254 jaunte

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Maybe plain brown shirts would be in order.

378 darthstar  Aug 17, 2014 6:37:26pm
379 BeachDem  Aug 17, 2014 6:38:04pm

re: #376 allegro

His parents are too embarrassed.

Can you blame them?

380 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 6:38:13pm

re: #377 Eventual Carrion

Maybe plain brown shirts would be in order.

Removing the nameplates is the opposite of ‘community policing.’

381 ninja cat  Aug 17, 2014 6:38:54pm

Musing….if Darrin Wilson indeed went to the hospital, you’d think by now someone would’ve mentioned seeing him and the extent of his injuries.

382 BongCrodny  Aug 17, 2014 6:39:26pm

re: #378 darthstar

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Masturbation and suppressed masturbation.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

383 Ryan King  Aug 17, 2014 6:39:59pm
384 Dark_Falcon  Aug 17, 2014 6:40:14pm

re: #361 Dr. Matt

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And frankly, I doubt she’s right on the matter of Iraq. Given the situation there and the fact that we have combat aircraft in action, the White House like has spent more time on Iraq than Ferguson.

385 Aunty Entity Dragon  Aug 17, 2014 6:40:29pm

Here is something to smile about tonight:

Riverdance dancers at a wedding…

huffingtonpost.com

386 jaunte  Aug 17, 2014 6:40:53pm

Charles V. Payne has some problems with correlation/causation.

387 darthstar  Aug 17, 2014 6:41:30pm

re: #382 BongCrodny

Masturbation and suppressed masturbation.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

Don’t forget my favorite, “Deranged Masturbation” - just never managed to get my syphilis card checked…damn.

388 thedopefishlives  Aug 17, 2014 6:43:00pm

re: #356 Kid A

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Explain to me exactly why this is a bad thing, Ms. Ingraham?

389 darthstar  Aug 17, 2014 6:43:05pm

By the way…deranged masturbation still exists…it’s just called P-90X now. Ask Paul Ryan.

390 Eventual Carrion  Aug 17, 2014 6:43:57pm

re: #279 Joanne

A mistaken assumption. Much like our elected officials rarely work for Us these days.

Yep, they have the people they work for on speed dial on their phones. And it is not you and me.

391 GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 17, 2014 6:44:19pm

re: #367 Lidane

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And who gets to decide what “suspicious” is?

392 ninja cat  Aug 17, 2014 6:44:40pm

Political Excitement. I would think starbursts would qualify.

393 klys  Aug 17, 2014 6:45:26pm

re: #385 Aunty Entity Dragon

Here is something to smile about tonight:

Riverdance dancers at a wedding…

huffingtonpost.com

In her wedding dress, no less.

Major props.

394 Ryan King  Aug 17, 2014 6:48:08pm

re: #386 jaunte

Charles V. PayneAll WINGUTS has HAVE some problems with correlation/causation.

It’s their feeble minds just trying to find what ever rationale they can to disparage ‘the enemy.’

They cannot comprehend the alternate possibility that Democrats may be a better alternative than GOP policy, which could make things worse.

395 Ryan King  Aug 17, 2014 6:49:20pm

re: #382 BongCrodny

Masturbation and suppressed masturbation.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

People sure have a fetish about suppressing masturbation.

396 darthstar  Aug 17, 2014 6:51:24pm

Damn…I just discovered I’ve got a theme song.

Youtube Video

397 Lidane  Aug 17, 2014 6:54:18pm

Mental health break:

398 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 17, 2014 7:13:24pm

re: #385 Aunty Entity Dragon

Here is something to smile about tonight:

Riverdance dancers at a wedding…

huffingtonpost.com

Well I guess this shows that white people can dance.

399 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Aug 18, 2014 2:08:59am

re: #223 b.d.

DEMS ARE THE REAL RACISTS!

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It’s the unmistakable style of a neo-Nazi “artist” who goes by the moniker “A. Wyatt Mann”. This picture is one of his most “moderate” ones. Whoever posted it on twitter first had to wade through dozens of openly neo-Nazi anti-Jewish, anti-Black, anti-Latino caricatures first.


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