The Bob Cesca Interview: Cliff Schecter Doesn’t Stink

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Cliff Schecter Doesn’t Stink — You probably know Cliff from his YouTube channel or you know Cliff from the Stephanie Miller Show or you know him from his many appearances on this show. Today Cliff I talked about Trump’s horrendous body odor and its possible source. Plus, we dig into the Republican primaries and whether Republicans will back away from nominating a criminally convicted presidential candidate who might not appear on all ballots. We also talked about the possibility that Marjorie Taylor Greene is engaging in financial crimes. And more! Find Cliff on his YouTube channel youtube.com/cschecter. Meantime, don’t forget to support this podcast by subscribing us on Patreon patreon.com/bobcescashow. Music by Seth Adam.

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2024 • 8:16:42pm

Thank you new thread for preventing me from getting sucked into a discussion of Agile development methodology…

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 3, 2024 • 8:24:47pm

There was an AGILE meeting going on at the table when I received the call that my mother was on her deathbed.

When I sent a message about my mother, the meeting was cancelled and everyone came over to hug me. Then I went home.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 3, 2024 • 8:30:27pm

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2024 • 8:31:15pm

Elon Musk would be treated like any other Russian collaborator…if he was in Ukraine. Don’t expect to see him visit that country in the next 20 years or so…

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2024 • 8:41:07pm

This will put a dent in membership renewals…

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 3, 2024 • 9:04:15pm

re: #5 darthstar

So disappointed to hear that Naomi Campbell was involved with that mess. Huge sigh.

She has denied any knowledge of his crimes back in 2019.
timesnownews.com

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 3, 2024 • 9:17:44pm

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Unabogie  Jan 3, 2024 • 9:22:25pm

re: #7 Patricia Kayden

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Wait, what judge? That seems like a fake story, even though he would totally do that.

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danarchy  Jan 3, 2024 • 9:25:03pm

re: #8 Unabogie

Wait, what judge? That seems like a fake story, even though he would totally do that.

satire

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 3, 2024 • 9:25:03pm
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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 3, 2024 • 9:54:30pm

I’ve been going thru those Epstein Documents.

Aaron Rogers lied about Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy is not mentioned anywhere in those pages.

Oh, Guess WHO ELSE isn’t mentioned in there at all!

Hint—The Current President…

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JC1  Jan 3, 2024 • 9:54:35pm

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darthstar  Jan 3, 2024 • 9:56:51pm

re: #9 danarchy

satire

“Satire”… You know that he would say that.

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retired cynic  Jan 3, 2024 • 9:58:43pm

re: #13 darthstar

I actually think he would say anything and everything to get around answering that with a simple yes or no.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 3, 2024 • 9:59:55pm

re: #124 No Malarkey!

Why don’t pollsters add these questions?:

Q1: does it matter to you how economists define “recession” and “depression”?
Q2: Do you know how the Fed defines if the US is in a recession?

I’ll tell you why - because pollsters are only looking for headlines and the last thing they want to do is make their subjects actually think.

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Targetpractice  Jan 3, 2024 • 10:22:36pm

re: #15 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Why don’t pollsters add these questions?:

Q1: does it matter to you how economists define “recession” and “depression”?
Q2: Do you know how the Fed defines if the US is in a recession?

I’ll tell you why - because pollsters are only looking for headlines and the last thing they want to do is make their subjects actually think.

For the past two years, every “news” organization has been bombarding the public with dire predictions about the economy. The “liberal” press has been trotting out economists to declare that “the indicators” say that we’re dragging the bottom and a recession is inevitable “next year.” Meanwhile, the “conservative” press are telling them that we’re not only in a recession, but we’re in a state that rivals the Carter years and will only get worse so long as Biden is in office. But both sides agree on the same thing: If you’ve paid a bit more for a jug of milk, a gallon of gas, or a new pair of shoes, then you’re a victim of this economic downturn and should be raising hell about it to anyone who will listen.

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TedStriker  Jan 3, 2024 • 10:35:15pm

Liberty! Equality! Lexicography!

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Targetpractice  Jan 3, 2024 • 10:36:22pm

Times I wish I could put up a sign at the front desk reading:

“Front Desk Staff Are Not Interested In Your Personal Drama, If You Have a Complaint Please Make It Short And Concise. No, We Will Not Take A Side In Your Arguments, Disagreements, Disputes, or Vendettas With Other Guests. We Are Not Paid To Be Therapists, Guidance Counselors, Teachers, or IT Staff For Our Guests. And No, I’m Not Interested In The Lesson Your Dad Taught You In Fifth Grade. If This Is Not A Request Or Complaint, Kindly PISS OFF!”

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 3, 2024 • 10:36:42pm

re: #71 Vicious Babushka

As LGF’s Bubbie, I have to keep my NYT and WashPost subscriptions because who else will give you gift articles?

I’m with VB.

FWIW, After years of purchasing the NYTimes at the news stand, I became an early online reader of the NYTimes. My login ID is not an email address.

As the cliche poem goes, “when it’s good, it’s very good. When it’s bad it’s horrid “

I make it a practice to always subscribe to the local newspaper & the NYTimes.

I find the NYTimes to be a good source of comment to gift to friends & LGF on occasion.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 3, 2024 • 10:53:07pm

re: #17 TedStriker

I’ve not watched Shives for years. Used to watch some of his ST videos.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 3, 2024 • 11:55:23pm

re: #6 Patricia Kayden

So disappointed to hear that Naomi Campbell was involved with that mess. Huge sigh.

She has denied any knowledge of his crimes back in 2019.
timesnownews.com

Of course she did; who would admit to trafficking children to be sexually abused? Here’s hoping she can never show her face in public again, if she’s not indicted, which she should be.

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Targetpractice  Jan 3, 2024 • 11:57:49pm

re: #11 Joe Bacon ✅

I’ve been going thru those Epstein Documents.

Aaron Rogers lied about Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy is not mentioned anywhere in those pages.

Oh, Guess WHO ELSE isn’t mentioned in there at all!

Hint—The Current President…

The MAGAts still believe over three years later that “THE LAPTOP!!111” had not only emails but loads of pictures of Hunter engaged in sex acts with child prostitutes in China, and that Joe ordered the FBI to sit on those to prevent the public from finding out he’s being blackmailed by Xi personally. What makes you think they’re not already brewing up rumors of “missing” pages (if not entire sections) of Epstein’s Docs that would show both men were long-time clients of him and Maxwell?

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No Malarkey!  Jan 4, 2024 • 12:05:04am

re: #22 Targetpractice

The MAGAts still believe over three years later that “THE LAPTOP!!111” had not only emails but loads of pictures of Hunter engaged in sex acts with child prostitutes in China, and that Joe ordered the FBI to sit on those to prevent the public from finding out he’s being blackmailed by Xi personally. What makes you think they’re not already brewing up rumors of “missing” pages (if not entire sections) of Epstein’s Docs that would show both men were long-time clients of him and Maxwell?

I’ve been arguing with a chud in the Yahoo comments who seems to think it’s OK to force some 10 year olds to give birth or die trying after they have been raped, as long as there aren’t too many such cases. So I did a little internet research. Thousands of children age 10-15 years get pregnant in the US annually, and the birth rate for 10-14 year olds are 2 births per 10,000 girls. 5% of American children are sexually abused by age 12. So I’ve asked him how many children should be forced to give birth or die trying after they have been raped in his mind? The number for me is zero.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 4, 2024 • 12:35:08am

Charles Flynn should absolutely be relieved of any command authority.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 4, 2024 • 12:53:03am

Losing Kentucky gubernatorial candidate Daniel Cameron to become CEO of “The 1792 Exchange,” a project designed to discourage corporations from making any investments beneficial to the planet or society in general.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 4, 2024 • 12:57:30am

Self-loathing GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy defends despicable white supremacist and former Congressman Steve King as “wrongfully villainized.” Ramaswamy pledges that if elected, he will round himself up for deportation to stop himself from poisoning the blood of the nation.

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Targetpractice  Jan 4, 2024 • 1:01:24am

re: #23 No Malarkey!

I’ve been arguing with a chud in the Yahoo comments who seems to think it’s OK to force some 10 year olds to give birth or die trying after they have been raped, as long as there aren’t too many such cases. So I did a little internet research. Thousands of children age 10-15 years get pregnant in the US annually, and the birth rate for 10-14 year olds are 2 births per 10,000 girls. 5% of American children are sexually abused by age 12. So I’ve asked him how many children should be forced to give birth or die trying after they have been raped in his mind? The number for me is zero.

We know the answer, we saw it live when the news of a 10 yr old rape victim having to travel out of state to receive an abortion was met not with horror and condemnation of the rapist but instead denial that it ever happened and demands for those involved to be charged with “murder.” It’s a total inversion of Blackstone’s ratio, they truly would prefer a 100 victims die than a single “whore” be allowed to receive a perfectly legal abortion. They’ll come up with whatever rationalizations they need, going so far as to agree with the rapist that the child “seduced” him, to tell themselves that their stance is “moral” and any who would oppose it in the name of the victims are themselves “sinful.”

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Targetpractice  Jan 4, 2024 • 1:05:42am

re: #26 No Malarkey!

Self-loathing GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy defends despicable white supremacist and former Congressman Steve King as “wrongfully villainized.” Ramaswamy pledges that if elected, he will round himself up for deportation to stop himself from poisoning the blood of the nation.

Somebody really ought to take Vivek aside and let him know that no amount of money is going to make him white enough for the party to accept him.

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Targetpractice  Jan 4, 2024 • 1:57:54am

It continues to amaze me how many people think that driving until you’re barely conscious and then stopping at the first hotel on the next off-ramp for a “few hours” nap and a quick bite from the continental breakfast is still a plausible strategy. If I had a nickel for every person who’s given me a bleary look while moaning that they’ve been on the road for 10+ hours “non-stop” and thought we’d have a room sitting ready for them, I’d be able to move to someplace way nicer.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 4, 2024 • 1:57:59am

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TarHellion  Jan 4, 2024 • 2:34:00am

Today we celebrate our Birbie-day.

Looks as if we are going to be in the freezing rain sector Friday night and into Saturday morning. Bleh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 2:48:49am

end of balmy spell (temps into the 50’s windy and rainy) and finally typical winter weather (temps around freezing) come weekend

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Randall Gross  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:46:13am

Latest Amanda Marcotte post on Trump ballot woes and the right’s new tactic
mastodon.sdf.org

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:49:10am

A nice funky cover for some Friday eve drive time music!

Wonderwall | Oasis | FUNK cover ft. Darren Criss!

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Randall Gross  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:51:18am

Most people don’t get this but climate change is ultimately good for the economy, in the same way that Y2K was good for tech sales.

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 4, 2024 • 3:57:45am

Wrong side of the 50/50, because what else can I do wrong this morning?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:10:34am

Buh. So many choices.
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:10:52am

re: #35 Randall Gross

Most people don’t get this but climate change is ultimately good for the economy, in the same way that Y2K was good for tech sales.

Some people will make money but a lot more will take a loss. Just ask Ben Shapiro.

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Randall Gross  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:11:25am

bsky.app

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:12:24am

The Circle of Life:

‘A great season’: Snowbirds begin to flock to the Panama City Beach area
newsherald.com

Large great white shark seen near Panama City Beach as predators make annual migration
al.com

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:19:16am

I am glad the pup made it out safe, and that the US Coast Guard agreed to rescue Leo.

The US Coast Guard made a daring rescue to airlift a Golden Retriever to safety on New Year’s Day after he plunged more than 300 feet over a sharp cliff — the second incident of its kind at the Oregon state park in just seven months.

Leo had been bounding ahead of his two owners and their other pup at Ecola State Park around 2:45 p.m. when he toppled over the ledge onto the rocky shores of Cannon Beach below.

The drop — the height of the Statue of Liberty — is only accessible by repelling down from a hiking trail.

Local fire departments had just set up their pulley systems when the Coast Guard chopper arrived on the side of the steep cliffside.

Dramatic footage of the rescue shows the 3-year-old pup cowering on the slim shore with his body pressed against the large rocks of the shoreline.

nypost.com

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Dangerman  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:30:55am

re: #18 Targetpractice

Times I wish I could put up a sign at the front desk reading:

“Front Desk Staff Are Not Interested In Your Personal Drama, If You Have a Complaint Please Make It Short And Concise. No, We Will Not Take A Side In Your Arguments, Disagreements, Disputes, or Vendettas With Other Guests. We Are Not Paid To Be Therapists, Guidance Counselors, Teachers, or IT Staff For Our Guests. And No, I’m Not Interested In The Lesson Your Dad Taught You In Fifth Grade. If This Is Not A Request Or Complaint, Kindly PISS OFF!”

Id stay at your place

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Randall Gross  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:32:24am

bsky.app

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:41:30am

re: #32 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Currently in the mid 40’s here. Cold for me, I have a heating pad on my toesies.

Expected to get down to 36 (night time) in a few days. Hope we don’t get that low.

By middle of January the GFS is showing most of the continental US under a deep freeze, save for the coastal extremes.

Cancun looks to be balmy, though, if you need an escape.

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Randall Gross  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:44:10am

Meanwhile you can ask Billy Ruben why your pee is yellow:
salon.com

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Randall Gross  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:45:39am

re: #44 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Currently in the mid 40’s here. Cold for me, I have a heating pad on my toesies.

Expected to get down to 36 (night time) in a few days. Hope we don’t get that low.

By middle of January the GFS is showing most of the continental US under a deep freeze, save for the coastal extremes.

Cancun looks to be balmy, though, if you need an escape.

We dip into the upper 20’s overnights in KC right now & we have two blankets and a quilt, it’s not quite cold enough for the comforter yet.

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:47:19am

re: #46 Randall Gross

We dip into the upper 20’s overnights in KC right now & we have two blankets and a quilt, it’s not quite cold enough for the comforter yet.

Our cold weather keeps getting pushed off; tomorrow it is supposed to be 34 °F / 1 C, which is unseasonably warm in January. The snow we keep waiting for is also delayed, but looks like it might finally come mid- to late next week, followed by the bitter cold.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:47:31am

“No respect” -Rodney Dangerfield.

Migrants in Jersey? Fuhgettaboutit.

New Jersey officials are making sure the Big Apple doesn’t dump the out-of-control migrant mess on the Garden State — and are even deploying cops to usher asylum seekers from the US border onto Manhattan-bound NJ Transit trains as soon as they get off their buses.

The scrap across the Hudson comes as New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy tries to rally the state’s mayors to form a unified front, while New York City Mayor Eric Adams pleads with Murphy to take on at least part of the migrant burden that is burying the five boroughs.

“New Jersey just said, f-k this,” one source close to the situation told The Post on Wednesday. “New Jersey Transit cops were waiting for them in Secaucus to show them how to get on the train to New York.”

Multiple Garden State sources described the scene as hectic over the last few days, as nearly two dozen migrant buses rolled into train stations with “chaperones” — with NJ Transit cops then taking over and serving as guides on how to get nearly 1,000 asylum seekers across the river.

No Respect Supercut
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:48:05am

re: #44 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Cancun looks to be balmy, though, if you need an escape.

My niece lives in Chetumal and another buddy just relocated to Belize. I am considering retiring to there.

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:48:31am

re: #48 Shropshire Slasher

Governor Abbott last seen cackling in glee. This is exactly what he wants; to divert the issue from, “Texas is being assholes,” to, “Well, look at how badly New York and New Jersey are handling this.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:52:24am

I so need a new computer…

Many websites are difficult to navigate now because my version of Chrome is so old. And Firefox is not of much help on some websites.

I’ll likely just get another Mac. But I’ve been browsing the mini-PC market… and I’m a bit underwhelmed. It seems like the PC gamers are driving the Windows market and they want flashy cases with huge Nvidia cards and kilowatt power supplies.

The mini-PCs seem stuck on old interfaces (USB-A, Display Port), and most are lacking in aesthetics.

I am hoping that Intel’s Meteor Lake family will find its way into the mini-ITX motherboards. That should help a lot. But Intel’s “Ultra” family is not going to be sold over the counter, not intended to be user upgradeable (no CPU mount that a use can access.)

Probably the PC diehards will whine about things being soldered on the system board and not user upgradeable. It’s why they dismiss Macs (all current Macs but the Mac Pro tower have no user adjustable items inside.)

Anyway, my eyes gloss over when I look at Windows-world. And Linux is a no-go for me. Therefore I will likely stay with Apple.

The current iMac is a work of art, but limited in memory specifications. The Mac Studio can do about anything… for a price.

I really think the desktop computer market is fading away. People want phones, and maybe a tablet.

But I am old and used to a keyboard…. which makes it all a bit old fashioned of me to want something like I bought 20 years ago.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 4:57:15am

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My niece lives in Chetumal and another buddy just relocated to Belize. I am considering retiring to there.

I would be unhappy living in a climate that doesn’t do cold.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:11:17am

re: #29 Targetpractice

I plan out travel and driving with 3 hour chunks in mind, and overnights based on how much I expect to drive in 250-500 miles, including all the attractions I might stop at. Doing anything else would be absolutely insane and put my life and family and others in harms’ way.

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Randall Gross  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:19:18am

re: #53 lawhawk

I plan out travel and driving with 3 hour chunks in mind, and overnights based on how much I expect to drive in 250-500 miles, including all the attractions I might stop at. Doing anything else would be absolutely insane and put my life and family and others in harms’ way.

We don’t plan but we do start looking ahead and calling for rooms ~ 3 - 4 hours before we stop, so far it’s been a successful strategy. * we did end up at a best western with a 1 inch gap under the doors during a high plains blizzard once. That was a road hazard stop, & not where we would have stopped normally. Towels worked to plug the gap that wind driven snow was blowing in through.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:19:26am

re: #50 Nerdy Fish

Governor Abbott last seen cackling in glee. This is exactly what he wants; to divert the issue from, “Texas is being assholes,” to, “Well, look at how badly New York and New Jersey are handling this.”

It also goes to show that anything short of comprehensive and humane immigration reform will result only in people kicking the can down the road or stopping gaps that will then lead to leaks elsewhere.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:20:35am

re: #52 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

I would be unhappy living in a climate that doesn’t do cold.

Sedona, Arizona was the best for that: you got some winter frosts and even the occasional dusting of snow but most of it was up on the hillsides where you could see it and smell it but did not have to shovel.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:21:08am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It also goes to show that anything short of comprehensive and humane immigration reform will result only in people kicking the can down the road or stopping gaps that will then lead to leaks elsewhere.

We can ask Ted Kennedy about amnesty.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:39:15am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It also goes to show that anything short of comprehensive and humane immigration reform will result only in people kicking the can down the road or stopping gaps that will then lead to leaks elsewhere.

Collective “we” better start thinking clearly about what kind of Twenty-Second Century we want our kids to build. The forces that are pushing the tropical zones northwards are only going to get stronger.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:41:29am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 5:41:44am

re: #58 Decatur Deb

Collective “we” better start thinking clearly about what kind of Twenty-Second Century we want our kids to build. The forces that are pushing the tropical zones northwards are only going to get stronger.

One of the few things I agreed with GW Bush about was his immigration reform policy. But his own party would not get on board with it. Too many vested interests in keeping a steady flow of cheap, easily exploited workers.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:10:51am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One of the few things I agreed with GW Bush about was his immigration reform policy. But his own party would not get on board with it. Too many vested interests in keeping a steady flow of cheap, easily exploited workers.

And too many interests in criminalizing those seeking to come here on a temporary basis to do jobs Americans wont do (like working in fields or doing food service/processing jobs) on the cheap. Instead of criminalizing those who hire undocumented persons, we criminalize those who are hoping to work periodically in the US and then prevent them from cycling through the border (fences don’t stop people from coming here, but they do make it harder for people to return back to Mexico). Cyclical flow would be healthy, but that’d require more and faster processing of visas.

Heck, cyclical flow would be a net positive if you raised fees to do all that work and legalized the flow of people coming in and allow them to return home. This isn’t about amnesty, but to recognize that the cyclical flow of people to work in the US is a net benefit.

The problem for the GOP is that they *hate* persons of color, and those coming through the border (Mexican border is all that matters to the GOP) is that they’re not white.

They don’t care that those coming from Latin America are religious, Christian, etc., or even “conservative” because they don’t have the right skin tone, and demonize them anyways. This could be a natural base for the GOP to grow, but the GOP attacks POC at every turn, and Trump’s explicitly calling for expulsion of millions of POC and Latinos.

It’s insane, but that’s the GOP.

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:13:33am

re: #26 No Malarkey!

Self-loathing GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy defends despicable white supremacist and former Congressman Steve King as “wrongfully villainized.” Ramaswamy pledges that if elected, he will round himself up for deportation to stop himself from poisoning the blood of the nation.

Vivek Ramaswamy Is not self-loathing. He is a yet another boring average malignant narcissist. This means he is a perfect fit into the modern GOP.

If the entire world were to burn to the ground by his own hand and it is he who remains on top… that would be perfectly ok with him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:14:28am

re: #61 lawhawk

And too many interests in criminalizing those seeking to come here on a temporary basis to do jobs Americans wont do (like working in fields or doing food service/processing jobs) on the cheap.

Too many business models are based an unending flow on cheap untrained or low-skill labor. We would really have to rework the way we grow, process and serve food, the hospitality and domestic services industry, gardeining/landscaping, construction, etc…

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:19:06am

re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The capitalist paradise is to produce everything while employing no one. There is a flaw somewhere in that thinking.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:21:27am

New unemployment claims dropped to an unexpectedly low 202,000 last week (seasonally adjusted), showing a still strong demand for workers which is good for them, especially for low skill and disadvantaged workers. The wage gap between whites and blacks has dropped to the lowest level ever as the employment rate has converged.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:22:58am

re: #64 Decatur Deb

The capitalist paradise is to produce everything while employing no one. There is a flaw somewhere in that thinking.

The flaw comes about when the torches, pitchforks, and guillotines arrive and we start eating the oligarchs.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:24:48am

re: #66 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

You’ll know it’s about to turn ugly when Hollywood, Bollywood, and Brazilian films start showing the upside of cannibalism.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:27:44am

re: #64 Decatur Deb

The capitalist paradise is to produce everything while employing no one. There is a flaw somewhere in that thinking.

OTOH, technology enabling fewer people to produce more has, over the course of the industrial revolution, made everyone wealthier, and more people are employed than ever. If we ever get to the point than technology can produce anything we want just by asking for it (tea, earl grey), I hope we can achieve a Star Trek caliber egalitarian society without a bloody civil war in getting there. Before then, we still need technology assisted productivity gains so that incomes can continue to rise.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:30:02am

re: #64 Decatur Deb

The capitalist paradise is to produce everything while employing no one. There is a flaw somewhere in that thinking.

labor is just another expense to be minimalized, outsourced or eliminated altogether

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:30:06am

re: #67 Decatur Deb

Mmmmm, long pig.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:30:26am

re: #68 No Malarkey!

OTOH, technology enabling fewer people to produce more has, over the course of the industrial revolution, made everyone wealthier, and more people are employed than ever. If we ever get to the point than technology can produce anything we want just by asking for it (tea, earl grey), I hope we can achieve a Star Trek caliber egalitarian society without a bloody civil war in getting there. Before then, we still need technology assisted productivity gains so that incomes can continue to rise.

Star Trek is set in a very thinly-populated universe. How it got that thin is our mid-range future.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:30:46am

“Loan us all your money and we will use it to buy everything you own and then lease it back to you!”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:32:05am

re: #68 No Malarkey!

OTOH, technology enabling fewer people to produce more has, over the course of the industrial revolution, made everyone wealthier, and more people are employed than ever. If we ever get to the point than technology can produce anything we want just by asking for it (tea, earl grey), I hope we can achieve a Star Trek caliber egalitarian society without a bloody civil war in getting there. Before then, we still need technology assisted productivity gains so that incomes can continue to rise.

We’re as likely to find computer AI. advanced robotics, and to create the chattel slavery system of the Star Wars saga. Including the janissary-like slave military units to be our cannon fodder in disputes.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:32:57am

re: #65 No Malarkey!

Here’s why this is bad news for Biden. /because every bit of news that even remotely suggests good economic news is somehow flipped to be bad for Biden and his chances.

Fuck the media for continuing to pimp claims that recession is around the corner.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:33:25am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

labor is just another expense to be minimalized, outsourced or eliminated altogether

At that point the assholes discover they can only ride in one driverless Maserati at a time.

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:33:39am

re: #68 No Malarkey!

OTOH, technology enabling fewer people to produce more has, over the course of the industrial revolution, made everyone wealthier, and more people are employed than ever. If we ever get to the point than technology can produce anything we want just by asking for it (tea, earl grey), I hope we can achieve a Star Trek caliber egalitarian society without a bloody civil war in getting there. Before then, we still need technology assisted productivity gains so that incomes can continue to rise.

Look at the overpopulated mass surviving on Basic Assistance on Earth in the universe of The Expanse for a much more likely future.

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jeffreyw  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:34:36am

Blueberry Banana Muffins

Good morning!

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:34:44am

I love the shirt Cliff is wearing.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:35:47am

re: #76 William Lewis

Look at the overpopulated mass surviving on Basic Assistance on Earth in the universe of The Expanse for a much more likely future.

There will always be work for tread-heads.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:36:34am

re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Too many business models are based an unending flow on cheap untrained or low-skill labor. We would really have to rework the way we grow, process and serve food, the hospitality and domestic services industry, gardeining/landscaping, construction, etc…

If we made farm work $50/hr, most Americans would still suck at it.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:37:59am

re: #71 Decatur Deb

Star Trek is set in a very thinly-populated universe. How it got that thin is our mid-range future.

Also, when we can make the universe our home, the population density will drop a lot.

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:39:35am

re: #80 Belafon

If we made farm work $50/hr, most Americans would still suck at it.

And even at $50/hr it’s work that would still suck to do.
(why yes, I grew up on a farm… 😉 Only thing I didn’t mind were the chickens.)

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:41:10am

And we start the day with another school shooting…

who13.com

This time in Iowa.

Get ready for more thoughts and prayers folks…more thoughts and prayers…as Putin’s NRA makes sure these continue to increase unchecked…

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:42:31am

And I take a glance at the Post seeing them in full stick the shiv in Joe mode…

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:44:45am

re: #84 Joe Bacon ✅

The Post was an asshole rag long before Murdoch.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:45:14am

re: #84 Joe Bacon ✅

And I have cancelled my subscription because of it. I am sick and tired of WaPo telling me Joe is bad for the USA.

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dat_said  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:46:48am

re: #82 William Lewis

And even at $50/hr it’s work that would still suck to do.
(why yes, I grew up on a farm… 😉 Only thing I didn’t mind were the chickens.)

I detested the task of collecting eggs at my uncle’s farm. Besides the barely breathable air in a chicken coop on a summer day, those hens were extremely nasty protective against 7 year old hands.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:47:23am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

The Post was an asshole rag long before Murdoch.

Make that the NY Post. WaPo rises and falls in it’s journey to polysyllabic assholery.

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A Cranky One  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:48:54am

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:49:01am

Charlie Jerk continues being one of the Boys In The Hoods AND Bedsheets.

Charlie Kirk: “Why are whites taking this? Why are we just sitting idly by and allowing corporate America to give all the jobs to nonwhite people”

Where is this headed? South Africa. That’s where this is headed. They repeatedly have calls for genocide against white people. And by the way, we are getting tons of emails, freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com, Charlie, I’d be — I’m passed over for jobs. Charlie, I apply here, white, I can’t find a job. I’ve been looking for a job for quite a while.

How much — and by the way, why are whites taking this? Why are we just sitting idly by and allowing corporate America to give all the jobs to nonwhite people, and the destruction of meritocracy?

mediamatters.org

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:51:39am

already I need a laugh!

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:51:43am

It’s finally up to 40f. Off to walk the dog.

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danarchy  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:56:05am

re: #92 Decatur Deb

It’s finally up to 40f. Off to walk the dog.

What happens when the temperature never reaches 40? Does the dog just pee on the rug?

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:57:05am

😉re: #87 dat_said

I detested the task of collecting eggs at my uncle’s farm. Besides the barely breathable air in a chicken coop on a summer day, those hens were extremely nasty protective against 7 year old hands.

Ah! We rarely had broody hens so that was rarely a problem. Just wore a light glove or clucked back at them if they were.

Nothing like fresh eggs at breakfast 😉

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:58:44am

re: #93 danarchy

What happens when the temperature never reaches 40? Does the dog just pee on the rug?

He gets booted out the back door into the yard—very unsatisfactory from his viewpoint.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 6:59:43am

The president’s speech this Saturday will be about the future of democracy - yet the press seems reluctant to make that clear

When Joe Biden talks on Saturday about US democracy on the brink, there’s no doubt that it will be a campaign speech. Maybe the most important one of his life.

But the speech will be more than that. It’s intended as a warning and a red alert, delivered on the anniversary of the violent January 6 insurrection at the Capitol.

The date was chosen for good reason - to make the point that more mayhem and more flagrant disregard for the rule of law and fair elections, are just around the corner if Donald Trump is re-elected.

Can the political media in America get that reality across? Or will their addiction to “horserace” coverage prevail?

So far, the signs aren’t particularly promising.

A line high up in the New York Times’ advance coverage of what Biden plans to say is typical of the mainstream media’s tone and focus: “The two speeches are part of an effort to redirect attention from Mr. Biden’s low approval numbers and remind Democrats and independent voters of the alternative to his reelection.” (Biden is speaking on Saturday at Valley Forge, Pennsylvania, and Monday at the South Carolina church where a young white supremacist murdered nine black parishioners in late 2016.)

CNN offered an advance headline that emphasized the presidential race, not the message: “Biden opens campaign push …”

USA Today did better, putting the emphasis where it belongs: “Biden will mark Jan. 6 anniversary with speech warning Trump is a threat to democracy.”

We all know there’s a campaign happening. And remember, many readers don’t get beyond the headlines or news alerts. Those bulletins have to be short, true, but they also have to get the larger job done.

I’m not suggesting that Biden’s speech be covered as something separate from his presidential campaign. It’s obvious that November’s election and the fragility of American democracy are intertwined.

Even Biden campaign officials are making that point. “We are running a campaign like the fate of our democracy depends upon it. Because it does,” campaign manager Julia Chavez Rodriguez has said.

But there is another element that is more subtle.

“The choice for voters,” Rodriguez said, “will not simply be between competing philosophies of government. The choice will be about protecting our democracy and every American’s fundamental freedom.”

That’s where the media gets tripped up. In a constant show of performative neutrality, journalists tend to equalize the unequal, taking coverage down the middle even though that’s not where true fairness lies.

Biden, of course, is not a great natural speaker, and perhaps the biggest knock on him is that he’s 81 - and not a young 81.

Those factors won’t help, no matter what the media focuses on.

But journalists do have an obligation to get beyond delivery and appearances, to get beyond poll numbers and approval numbers - all the things that they are most comfortable with.

The mainstream media is not nearly as comfortable with communicating the larger concepts, even when the stakes are this high.

Constantly under attack from the right, they fear looking like they are “in the tank” for a particular candidate or party, so they fall back on those traditional building blocks of coverage - numbers, polls, approval ratings.

That may have worked in the past, or at least been relatively unobjectionable. Not any more.

Speech coverage is only one part of that. Journalists need to get across to voters in day-to-day coverage - between now and November - what a second Trump presidency would mean.

Reporters and their bosses - both in newsrooms and in glossy corporate offices - should remember that being in favor of democracy isn’t a journalistic crime. In fact, it’s a journalistic obligation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:01:25am

re: #94 William Lewis

Nothing like fresh eggs at breakfast :)

except hard-boiled. they are nearly impossible to peel as the eggs have not dried out enough for the inner membrane to separate from the shell.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:02:13am

re: #96 Joe Bacon ✅

Reporters and their bosses - both in newsrooms and in glossy corporate offices - should remember that being in favor of democracy isn’t a journalistic crime. In fact, it’s a journalistic obligation.

Their only obligation is to increase viewership and revenue.

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jeffreyw  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:09:33am

re: #70 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Mmmmm, long pig.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:10:20am

I was going to make a joke about Jorgena Santos, but since George does drag, it might have caused confusion:

In a bizarre micro-scandal that some have dubbed “GrubGate,” a former GOP congresswoman who is running for her old seat in South Texas is being accused of routinely stealing photos of Mexican food from other social media accounts and passing them off as her own cooking.

Earlier this week, Mayra Flores, the first Mexican-born woman to serve in Congress, posted a photo on social media that she described as “gorditas de masa” with the caption, “the Ranch life with family is the best.”

Soon after, a user on X, formerly known as Twitter, pointed out that that the image was previously posted on a Facebook page, “Visit Guyana,” in March 2022. Others said that the food in the photo was not gorditas de masa. That prompted the conservative website Current Revolt to dig further into Flores’ social media accounts, where they found numerous other posts in which Flores used others’ photos of campfire cooking or homemade tortillas to illustrate her own idyllic life on a ranch.

dailykos.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:12:29am

re: #100 Belafon

I was going to make a joke about Jorgena Santos, but since George does drag, it might have caused confusion:

faux taco trucks on every corner?

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A Cranky One  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:13:07am

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:15:05am

NYC metro area might get a trace of snow from the noreaster that is forecast for inland areas this weekend. Central Park has gotten just traces of snow a couple of times in 700+ days. That’s not normal.

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:16:32am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

except hard-boiled. they are nearly impossible to peel as the eggs have not dried out enough for the inner membrane to separate from the shell.

True. But I always preferred some scrambled with bacon and toast so I didn’t have that problem 😎

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:19:14am

re: #103 lawhawk

Philly is supposed to get some of that mess too.
weather.gov

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:20:00am

“Wahhhh! The evil special counsel is making us do work! We don’t wanna work, make him stop!”

Joshua J. Friedman @joshuajfriedman.com
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NEW: Trump team asks Judge Chutkan to hold the special counsel in contempt for continuing to provide discovery while proceedings are stayed, calling it a “desperate effort to harass President Trump and prevent his likely victory in the 2024 Presidential Election.” tinyurl.com

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:24:45am

re: #106 Nerdy Fish

I assume what they’re going to say is, once his asinine “I was the President, I’m immune from any prosecution” defense is slapped down, “Well, since this case was stayed, we obviously didn’t review any of these discovery materials, so we’ll need to delay the trial in order to complete our obligations.”

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:26:12am

re: #53 lawhawk

I plan out travel and driving with 3 hour chunks in mind, and overnights based on how much I expect to drive in 250-500 miles, including all the attractions I might stop at. Doing anything else would be absolutely insane and put my life and family and others in harms’ way.

We follow the same plan every time we drive to NY. Coffee & food stops along the Ohio Turnpike, and then we stay overnight in Clearfield PA eastbound and in Clarion PA on the way home.

Coffee stop at every Wawa!!

Driving in NY is so intimidating that I leave the car in whatever parking space I can grab like a trophy, and take an Uber wherever I want to go in the city.

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Randall Gross  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:30:12am

re: #108 Vicious Babushka

We follow the same plan every time we drive to NY. Coffee & food stops along the Ohio Turnpike, and then we stay overnight in Clearfield PA eastbound and in Clarion PA on the way home.

Coffee stop at every Wawa!!

Driving in NY is so intimidating that I leave the car in whatever parking space I can grab like a trophy, and take an Uber wherever I want to go in the city.

Reminds me of SF, where having a car was a curse unless you lived in the Sunset district.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:31:26am

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The 5 happened because she forgot that she had a letter in word 2. Otherwise it would have been 4.

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Randall Gross  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:32:10am

bsky.app

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:36:19am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

except hard-boiled. they are nearly impossible to peel as the eggs have not dried out enough for the inner membrane to separate from the shell.

Here is a method I use for hard boiled eggs:

Add about a Tablespoon of vinegar to the water you boil the eggs in.
When eggs are done, place them into a bowl of crushed ice.

When eggs have been chilled by the crushed ice they will be easy to peel.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:37:04am

re: #108 Vicious Babushka

I find your comment about driving in NYC rather funny, having grown up there and learned to drive there. Driving in NYC is relaxing and stress relieving for me - since it takes my mind off all the other things going on where I can concentrate on driving and skillfully avoiding accidents, traffic, etc., to get to my destination and finding a plum parking spot.

But I get that it can be extremely intimidating to someone who isn’t from these parts or someone who isn’t comfortable handling traffic (and lots of aggressive drivers).

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:37:35am

re: #112 Vicious Babushka

I use the bowl of ice method too. It works very well.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:38:43am

Although the Washington Post and NY Times each have flaws, it’s not as though there is some other daily publication that will provide in-depth news and a consistent set of editorial/opinion page columns that we can all accept. If they go, the available news sources will be even worse than today. Do you really want to rely on the Murdoch WSJ whose editorial policy has been disgraceful for forever? Tell me — what other news organization has the resources and the appropriate point of view for a daily paper of record?

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:40:51am

re: #41 Shropshire Slasher

I am glad the pup made it out safe, and that the US Coast Guard agreed to rescue Leo.

nypost.com

One boo boo in the article (besides the dog’s):

It’s ‘rappelling’, not ‘repelling’.

They should deter dogs from that spot. Leash signs can’t be read by most dogs.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:41:48am

re: #115 Hecuba’s daughter

Although the Washington Post and NY Times each have flaws, it’s not as though there is some other daily publication that will provide in-depth news and a consistent set of editorial/opinion page columns that we can all accept. If they go, the available news sources will be even worse than today. Do you really want to rely on the Murdoch WSJ whose editorial policy has been disgraceful for forever? Tell me — what other news organization has the resources and the appropriate point of view for a daily paper of record?

Would be nice if they actually used those resources to do their job instead of endlessly reciting Republican talking points.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:42:43am

re: #117 Joe Bacon ✅

Would be nice if they actually used those resources to do their job instead of endlessly reciting Republican talking points.

Gotta maintain a horserace. If they just up and admit that the GOP is not fit to govern, that would really dampen reader/viewership.

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Randall Gross  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:43:33am

re: #112 Vicious Babushka

Here is a method I use for hard boiled eggs:

Add about a Tablespoon of vinegar to the water you boil the eggs in.
When eggs are done, place them into a bowl of crushed ice.

When eggs have been chilled by the crushed ice they will be easy to peel.

I use an egg poker on both ends, they always peel great.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:44:01am

re: #115 Hecuba’s daughter

Wife subscribes to The Catholic Worker, that’s the papist version of The Forward. Not much news, but it’s still only a penny a copy.
catholicworker.org

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:49:43am

re: #119 Randall Gross

I use an egg poker on both ends, they always peel great.

I use the boiling water -> ice bath method, and then I use a spoon to help peel them.

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:50:00am

re: #115 Hecuba’s daughter

Although the Washington Post and NY Times each have flaws, it’s not as though there is some other daily publication that will provide in-depth news and a consistent set of editorial/opinion page columns that we can all accept. If they go, the available news sources will be even worse than today. Do you really want to rely on the Murdoch WSJ whose editorial policy has been disgraceful for forever? Tell me — what other news organization has the resources and the appropriate point of view for a daily paper of record?

NPR?

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Mattand  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:56:06am

re: #113 lawhawk

I find your comment about driving in NYC rather funny, having grown up there and learned to drive there. Driving in NYC is relaxing and stress relieving for me - since it takes my mind off all the other things going on where I can concentrate on driving and skillfully avoiding accidents, traffic, etc., to get to my destination and finding a plum parking spot.

But I get that it can be extremely intimidating to someone who isn’t from these parts or someone who isn’t comfortable handling traffic (and lots of aggressive drivers).

LOL, so do you take a relaxing bath by filling the tub with broken glass and rabid weasels?

I’ve driven in NYC once. That was good enough. There’s enough mass transit and cabs that I will pay to let someone else handle that madness.

It’s funny, though; while I will often take PATCO when I’m going to Center City Philly, I don’t find driving there as stress-making as I do NYC or Boston. Probably the familiarity thing you cited earlier. Also, despite its size, getting around Philly by car at street level isn’t too awful.

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danarchy  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:56:33am

re: #117 Joe Bacon ✅

Would be nice if they actually used those resources to do their job instead of endlessly reciting Republican talking points.

This is nonsense. The times can have a multi-page investigative report into Trump’s finances, but sure, because they also have some 4 paragraph op-ed from from some republican shill they aren’t doing their job.

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Nojay UK  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:56:38am

re: #115 Hecuba’s daughter

Tell me — what other news organization has the resources and the appropriate point of view for a daily paper of record?

The National Enquirer?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:57:50am

Well, yesterday sucked but I am happy to report the colonoscopy I had this morning found no issues.

So you’ll all have to put up with me for a while yet. 😛

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Randall Gross  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:58:03am

Ari Melber’s segment on why Trump is not immune

Who says Trump is wrong on ‘get out of jail’ card’? His own lawyer, GOP leader, Nixon…

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:58:24am

re: #61 lawhawk

[…]

The problem for the GOP is that they *hate* persons of color, and those coming through the border (Mexican border is all that matters to the GOP) is that they’re not white.

[…]

They hate poor people. Rich people come in through airports. The people coming in from Mexico are from everywhere, including Ukraine, Sudan, and this hemisphere.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2024 • 7:59:37am

re: #122 William Lewis

NPR?

One of the things we on the left have to get better at doing is complaining to the companies we’re giving money to. We think boycotts work in all cases, but it doesn’t really work with news sources. I made the comment about NPR yesterday: all Democrats should donate to it, even if it’s only $1 per month, and then complain when their coverage is biased against Democracy. If every voting Democrat donated just that much, they wouldn’t have to rely on corporate money.

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Mattand  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:04:36am

re: #108 Vicious Babushka

We follow the same plan every time we drive to NY. Coffee & food stops along the Ohio Turnpike, and then we stay overnight in Clearfield PA eastbound and in Clarion PA on the way home.

Coffee stop at every Wawa!!

Driving in NY is so intimidating that I leave the car in whatever parking space I can grab like a trophy, and take an Uber wherever I want to go in the city.

re: #109 Randall Gross

Reminds me of SF, where having a car was a curse unless you lived in the Sunset district.

When we took a long weekend to Boston a few years back, we drove but basically paid $54 to store the car at the hotel garage. Took the T, walked, or Lyft-ed wherever we went.

Literally as we’re getting off the highway on to street level in Boston, we had a Masshole suddenly switch two lanes left with no signal and maybe eight feet to spare between us. I’m like “We ain’t moving that car again until we leave.”

SF and Vegas were two other cities where we either left the car parked or never rented one and took mass transit/walked.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:06:15am

re: #107 Nerdy Fish

I assume what they’re going to say is, once his asinine “I was the President, I’m immune from any prosecution” defense is slapped down, “Well, since this case was stayed, we obviously didn’t review any of these discovery materials, so we’ll need to delay the trial in order to complete our obligations.”

100%!

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:06:48am

re: #11 Joe Bacon ✅

I’ve been going thru those Epstein Documents.

Aaron Rogers lied about Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy is not mentioned anywhere in those pages.

Oh, Guess WHO ELSE isn’t mentioned in there at all!

Hint—The Current President…

Arron Rogers nominated for the Kevin Sorbo award.

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Randall Gross  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:06:55am

Mandy Patinkin has a new cruise liner whodunnit series coming Mid January

Death and Other Details | Trailer | Hulu

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:10:14am

Par. Wordle 929 4/6*

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Looks like I had a plan.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:10:36am

re: #104 William Lewis

True. But I always preferred some scrambled with bacon and toast so I didn’t have that problem 😎

I like over easy to get a nice, runny yolk. Yum!

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:23:34am

re: #51 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I so need a new computer…

Many websites are difficult to navigate now because my version of Chrome is so old. And Firefox is not of much help on some websites.

I’ll likely just get another Mac. But I’ve been browsing the mini-PC market… and I’m a bit underwhelmed. It seems like the PC gamers are driving the Windows market and they want flashy cases with huge Nvidia cards and kilowatt power supplies.

The mini-PCs seem stuck on old interfaces (USB-A, Display Port), and most are lacking in aesthetics.

I am hoping that Intel’s Meteor Lake family will find its way into the mini-ITX motherboards. That should help a lot. But Intel’s “Ultra” family is not going to be sold over the counter, not intended to be user upgradeable (no CPU mount that a use can access.)

Probably the PC diehards will whine about things being soldered on the system board and not user upgradeable. It’s why they dismiss Macs (all current Macs but the Mac Pro tower have no user adjustable items inside.)

Anyway, my eyes gloss over when I look at Windows-world. And Linux is a no-go for me. Therefore I will likely stay with Apple.

The current iMac is a work of art, but limited in memory specifications. The Mac Studio can do about anything… for a price.

I really think the desktop computer market is fading away. People want phones, and maybe a tablet.

But I am old and used to a keyboard…. which makes it all a bit old fashioned of me to want something like I bought 20 years ago.

As an armchair expert user of teletypes. terminals, PCs. Macs, iPhones & iPads, you want a keyboard.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:25:59am

re: #136 BeenHereAwhile

I only use my phone out of necessity when I am away and need to communicate something urgent or work-related

Otherwise I use my PC and a keyboard

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BlueSpotinAL ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:28:26am

Just did something un-American…
Booked two round trip Amtrak tickets to New Orleans from Birmingham.
Did not want to park the car in New Orleans for a week and hardly use it.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:29:04am

Followup question: Do these people who say Trump is a religious figure consider him the Antichrist bringing about the end times? Because I’d posit that many are hoping for the chaos and End Times thanks to the policies he advances. They’re nihilists and hoping for a better existence after they think they’re getting Raptured.

Reality is another thing - where they’ll just be dead. And everyone else suffers from their religious beliefs.

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HypnoToad  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:29:12am

re: #122 William Lewis

NPR?

We worry about Russian money going to politicians and the NRA; I wonder how much has found its way to financially shaky newspapers and magazines?

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Mike Lamb  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:30:40am

re: #139 lawhawk

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Followup question: Do these people who say Trump is a religious figure consider him the Antichrist bringing about the end times? Because I’d posit that many are hoping for the chaos and End Times thanks to the policies he advances. They’re nihilists and hoping for a better existence after they think they’re getting Raptured.

Reality is another thing - where they’ll just be dead. And everyone else suffers from their religious beliefs.

The fact that 13% of the GOP thinks Biden is a man of faith is equally ridiculous.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:30:45am

re: #140 HypnoToad

We worry about Russian money going to politicians and the NRA; I wonder how much has found its way to financially shaky newspapers and magazines?

They certainly invest a lot of resources in infulencing and shaping Americn media from the press to TV/radio to the Internet.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:30:47am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sedona, Arizona was the best for that: you got some winter frosts and even the occasional dusting of snow but most of it was up on the hillsides where you could see it and smell it but did not have to shovel.

My wife wanted to move to Sedona after a visit to the area.

My response, after visiting the area with streams and countryside horse rides, folk in this area don’t have enough water. And what water is available is under the control of folk who can turn the water off.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:32:21am

re: #141 Mike Lamb

The fact that 13% of the GOP thinks Biden is a man of faith is equally ridiculous.

Many Evangelicals believe Catholicism is a cult.

True story.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:32:58am

re: #143 BeenHereAwhile

My wife wanted to move to Sedona after a visit to the area.

My response, after visiting the area with streams and countryside horse rides, folk in this area don’t have enough water. And what water is available is under the control of folk who can turn the water off.

It is a brilliant place to live and has been the refuge of millionaires for decades. I was lucky enough to work as a caretaker on six acres of property along Red Rock Loop Road with access to Oak Creek and an old settler’s cabin.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:33:15am

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

Many Evangelicals believe Catholicism is a cult.

True story. A

Ditto for Mormonism

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:33:30am

re: #51 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I so need a new computer…

Many websites are difficult to navigate now because my version of Chrome is so old. And Firefox is not of much help on some websites.

I’ll likely just get another Mac. But I’ve been browsing the mini-PC market… and I’m a bit underwhelmed. It seems like the PC gamers are driving the Windows market and they want flashy cases with huge Nvidia cards and kilowatt power supplies.

The mini-PCs seem stuck on old interfaces (USB-A, Display Port), and most are lacking in aesthetics.

I am hoping that Intel’s Meteor Lake family will find its way into the mini-ITX motherboards. That should help a lot. But Intel’s “Ultra” family is not going to be sold over the counter, not intended to be user upgradeable (no CPU mount that a use can access.)

Probably the PC diehards will whine about things being soldered on the system board and not user upgradeable. It’s why they dismiss Macs (all current Macs but the Mac Pro tower have no user adjustable items inside.)

Anyway, my eyes gloss over when I look at Windows-world. And Linux is a no-go for me. Therefore I will likely stay with Apple.

The current iMac is a work of art, but limited in memory specifications. The Mac Studio can do about anything… for a price.

I really think the desktop computer market is fading away. People want phones, and maybe a tablet.

But I am old and used to a keyboard…. which makes it all a bit old fashioned of me to want something like I bought 20 years ago.

How much are you willing to spend, and what do you really want? Because you can get anything from a good Chromebook to a good windows machine, and yes, you can still build your own desktop if you want. As for laptops, most of Nvidias RTX cards are available for laptops. And you can do what I did for my son, and buy a separate display that plugs into the HDMI port, all the way from less than $100 to a few hundred with touch screen capabilities.

Edit: The display is also portable, so you can take it with you. amazon.com

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:34:16am

re: #58 Decatur Deb

Collective “we” better start thinking clearly about what kind of Twenty-Second Century we want our kids to build. The forces that are pushing the tropical zones northwards are only going to get stronger.

How long until the wet bulb effect makes Central America uninhabitable?

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:34:42am

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

Many Evangelicals believe Catholicism is a cult.

True story. A

But Mammonism isn’t.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:35:37am

re: #149 Belafon

But Mammonism isn’t.

AR15-ism isn’t either

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:35:48am

re: #138 BlueSpotinAL ✅

Just did something un-American…
Booked two round trip Amtrak tickets to New Orleans from Birmingham.
Did not want to park the car in New Orleans for a week and hardly use it.

For one of our Denver visits, we plan to catch the City of NO in Memphis, overnight in Chicago, then catch something W to Denver.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:35:59am

I did not realize that Japan celebrates Banana Day and Strawberry Day among others!

atlasobscura.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:37:22am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

except hard-boiled. they are nearly impossible to peel as the eggs have not dried out enough for the inner membrane to separate from the shell.

Even hb pressure cooked fresh eggs peel easily. :)

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A Cranky One  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:37:57am

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A Cranky One  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:40:13am

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:42:29am

re: #151 Decatur Deb

For one of our Denver visits, we plan to catch the City of NO in Memphis, overnight in Chicago, then catch something W to Denver.

The California Zephyr runs from Chicago to Emeryville, CA and vice versa on a daily schedule. Denver is one of its stops.

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Randall Gross  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:49:44am

bah. fuck. First school shooting of the new year.
cnn.com

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danarchy  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:50:04am

re: #51 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I so need a new computer…

Many websites are difficult to navigate now because my version of Chrome is so old. And Firefox is not of much help on some websites.

I’ll likely just get another Mac. But I’ve been browsing the mini-PC market… and I’m a bit underwhelmed. It seems like the PC gamers are driving the Windows market and they want flashy cases with huge Nvidia cards and kilowatt power supplies.

The mini-PCs seem stuck on old interfaces (USB-A, Display Port), and most are lacking in aesthetics.

To each their own, I have been pretty impressed with the latest generation of mini’s as long as you aren’t opposed to going with a Ryzen processor. Beelink and Minisforum in particular are releasing some bangers.

The GTR 7 Pro is thoroughly modern, and aesthetics is in the eye of the beholder, but I like them, and the 780m is probably the most capable igpu ever.

Probably the PC diehards will whine about things being soldered on the system board and not user upgradeable. It’s why they dismiss Macs (all current Macs but the Mac Pro tower have no user adjustable items inside.)

Count me among those. Don’t get me wrong, I own a macbook, and I like it just fine, and I can accept the processor and memory being soldered on although I would prefer the memory not be, but the storage being soldered on to me feels like just a way to force obsolescence as fast as possible. I mean who wants to have to carry around external storage when you run out of space even if it is almost as fast as the internal drive. If something is going to fail it is likely to be the memory or storage in which case you have to shell out to replace the entire mainboard instead of just buying a new $50 nvme.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:51:17am

re: #156 sizzzzlerz

The California Zephyr runs from Chicago to Emeryville, CA and vice versa on a daily schedule. Denver is one of its stops.

(Googling maps) That must be beautiful country. We still have to finish parts of our “4 Corners” camping project. If we stopped on the San Diego-Vancouver leg, we could bomb over to Denver and back. That’s for next year, after the election.

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Dangerman  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:52:40am

Just musing for no particular reason:

This desantis /Haley second place nonsense is just that, nonsense.

If tfg keeled over and died tomorrow, he’d still get 40% of the vote

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:54:04am

Welcome to the Christian fascist future: father and son murder pregnant daughter and her boyfriend.

This case supposedly relates to drugs, but I’m suspicious about that finding.

The two suspects were filmed being led by officers past waiting media into a car in a clip shared by police after midnight.

The two bodies were found on Dec. 26 in a Kia Optima car belonging to Guerra, but the alleged murders took place five days earlier, just before midnight on Dec. 21, Moscoso said. Both died from gunshots to the head, the Bexar County medical examiner said.

Investigators are unsure where the alleged murders happened, but police said that the couple were killed and then taken to a street outside an apartment complex, where they were found.

Moscoso confirmed that Ramon Preciado wouldn’t be charged as an accomplice as he was not present at the time of the alleged murders.

Soto’s death has left her family stricken with grief and comes 19 months after her 15-year-old brother, Ethan Soto, was shot dead in what has been described as a dispute over money.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:54:13am

re: #161 Dangerman

Just musing for no particular reason:

This desantis /Haley second place nonsense is just that, nonsense.

If tfg keeled over and died tomorrow, he’d still get 40% of the vote

Horseracers gotta race.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:56:36am

I took an Amtrak from Flagstaff to Chicago around the turn of the 1980’s.

The way out was brilliant: sunrise over the Painted Desert, sunset through the Rodckes, sleeping through the flat bits and waking up in time to cross the Mississippi and then through awesome rolling Southern Illinois farm country.

The way back sucked massively as all the good bits were at night and all we got was entire day of flat open prairie and nondescript towns along the rail line.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:58:02am

Adrian Belew must have rode the same train:

Youtube Video

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:58:07am

re: #115 Hecuba’s daughter

Although the Washington Post and NY Times each have flaws, it’s not as though there is some other daily publication that will provide in-depth news and a consistent set of editorial/opinion page columns that we can all accept. If they go, the available news sources will be even worse than today. Do you really want to rely on the Murdoch WSJ whose editorial policy has been disgraceful for forever? Tell me — what other news organization has the resources and the appropriate point of view for a daily paper of record?

I’ve posted this before,.

I always subscribe to the local newspaper when and where I reside, and the NYTimes. I don’t read NYTimes political comment - as except during the pentagon papers - historically its political coverage has been conservative mush.

My current local paper is the Nashville Tennessean, in which I was pleased to find they still publish daily comics strips.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:58:18am

Reload my 162 for more info.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:59:37am

re: #117 Joe Bacon ✅

Would be nice if they actually used those resources to do their job instead of endlessly reciting Republican talking points.

There’s a news market for conservative mush.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 8:59:48am

re: #166 BeenHereAwhile

I always subscribe to the local newspaper when and where I reside, and the NYTimes. I don’t read NYTimes political comment - as except during the pentagon papers - historically its political coverage has been conservative mush.

Much the same with the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, which despite its right-wing, business-oriented leanings, offers excellent coverage and writing.

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danarchy  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:01:16am

re: #162 lawhawk

Welcome to the Christian fascist future: father and son murder pregnant daughter and her boyfriend.

This case supposedly relates to drugs, but I’m suspicious about that finding.

May I ask why? I read the article looking for any indication of christian fascism and though I was missing something.

Also you say pregnant daughter, and while I am sure she is someone’s daughter, I don’t think she is related to either these guys.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:03:00am

re: #159 danarchy

To each their own, I have been pretty impressed with the latest generation of mini’s as long as you aren’t opposed to going with a Ryzen processor. Beelink and Minisforum in particular are releasing some bangers.

The GTR 7 Pro is thoroughly modern, and aesthetics is in the eye of the beholder, but I like them, and the 780m is probably the most capable igpu ever.

Count me among those. Don’t get me wrong, I own a macbook, and I like it just fine, and I can accept the processor and memory being soldered on although I would prefer the memory not be, but the storage being soldered on to me feels like just a way to force obsolescence as fast as possible. I mean who wants to have to carry around external storage when you run out of space even if it is almost as fast as the internal drive. If something is going to fail it is likely to be the memory or storage in which case you have to shell out to replace the entire mainboard instead of just buying a new $50 nvme.

I read an article the other day about a guy who switched to windows, notably Lenovo, for that reason.

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Dangerman  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:03:21am

re: #153 GlutenFreeJesus

Even hb pressure cooked fresh eggs peel easily. :)

You’ve been peeling eggs wrong.
Listen to my podcast….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:05:12am

re: #172 Dangerman

You’ve been peeling eggs wrong.
Listen to my podcast….

use the new laser peeler!

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Captain Ron  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:05:20am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:06:41am

re: #174 Captain Ron

Hydroxychloroquine.

I’m sure Ivermectin took out a handful as well.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:07:03am

re: #113 lawhawk

I find your comment about driving in NYC rather funny, having grown up there and learned to drive there. Driving in NYC is relaxing and stress relieving for me - since it takes my mind off all the other things going on where I can concentrate on driving and skillfully avoiding accidents, traffic, etc., to get to my destination and finding a plum parking spot.

But I get that it can be extremely intimidating to someone who isn’t from these parts or someone who isn’t comfortable handling traffic (and lots of aggressive drivers).

My daughter went to Marymount Manhattan and I used to LOVE to get a chance to drive in NYC. Cross a bridge or tunnel and anything goes! I was once paid the ultimate compliment by a cabbie, in about 2003: “Hey, you drive like us!” after I crowded him out at an intersection.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:08:21am

re: #174 Captain Ron

“What do you have to lose?”

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Captain Ron  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:09:15am
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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:09:38am

re: #159 danarchy

To each their own, I have been pretty impressed with the latest generation of mini’s as long as you aren’t opposed to going with a Ryzen processor. Beelink and Minisforum in particular are releasing some bangers.

The GTR 7 Pro is thoroughly modern, and aesthetics is in the eye of the beholder, but I like them, and the 780m is probably the most capable igpu ever.

Count me among those. Don’t get me wrong, I own a macbook, and I like it just fine, and I can accept the processor and memory being soldered on although I would prefer the memory not be, but the storage being soldered on to me feels like just a way to force obsolescence as fast as possible. I mean who wants to have to carry around external storage when you run out of space even if it is almost as fast as the internal drive. If something is going to fail it is likely to be the memory or storage in which case you have to shell out to replace the entire mainboard instead of just buying a new $50 nvme.

I prefer AMD to Intel & have for quite a while.

If I were looking right now, that would be tempting. Storage is way too low for me though so I’d have to add several TB of external storage (games, media (music, movies, photos, etc - I refuse to use the “cloud” stupidity) to make it usable. Otherwise it would be fine for me.

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danarchy  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:11:22am

re: #180 William Lewis

I prefer AMD to Intel & have for quite a while.

If I were looking right now, that would be tempting. Storage is way too low for me though so I’d have to add several TB of external storage (games, media (music, movies, photos, etc - I refuse to use the “cloud” stupidity) to make it usable. Otherwise it would be fine for me.

I believe it can take 2 internal nvme’s and an internal sata ssd so it is very upgradeable without having to resort to external storage.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:17:07am

re: #177 nines09

Eaten here a few times. If you are brave, get the hot green chiles sauce. You will sound like a grizzeled Bandito afterwards. AIIEEEEEE….

I’m way too Irish for brave chiles. I complained when Wife bought ‘Mild’ cheese dip.

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A Cranky One  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:17:22am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:17:50am

re: #179 Captain Ron

China spent over $5.5 million at Trump properties, the largest total of known payments made by a foreign country while he was in office, records show

They throw a fit over a postage stamp-sized image of Mao that appeared on a ornament on Obama’s White House Christmas decorations but have no problem with the Cinese lining the walls of DJT’s Oval Office with dollar bills….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:18:28am

re: #183 A Cranky One

Chicken linguists will have to start from scratch.

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William Lewis  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:18:32am

re: #181 danarchy

I believe it can take 2 internal nvme’s and an internal sata ssd so it is very upgradeable without having to resort to external storage.

Ah, point. A quick google shows that there are now 8TB M.2 SSDs on the market and with a max of 64gb RAM would give quite a bit of room for growth. With wireless and a compact keyboard & LCD, it would be more portable than the first several “laptops” I owned 🤣

My currents are good enough and that Rolleiflex still has my eye though 😉

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Captain Ron  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:19:08am

re: #180 William Lewis

I prefer AMD to Intel & have for quite a while.

If I were looking right now, that would be tempting. Storage is way too low for me though so I’d have to add several TB of external storage (games, media (music, movies, photos, etc - I refuse to use the “cloud” stupidity) to make it usable. Otherwise it would be fine for me.

A 4 TB NVME is less than $250

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:20:14am

Mastodon

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:21:32am

re: #179 Captain Ron

Guarantee you Saudi Arabia is near the top of that list, too.

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coin operated  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:21:49am

re: #51 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I so need a new computer…

Many websites are difficult to navigate now because my version of Chrome is so old. And Firefox is not of much help on some websites.

I’ll likely just get another Mac. But I’ve been browsing the mini-PC market… and I’m a bit underwhelmed. It seems like the PC gamers are driving the Windows market and they want flashy cases with huge Nvidia cards and kilowatt power supplies.

The mini-PCs seem stuck on old interfaces (USB-A, Display Port), and most are lacking in aesthetics.

I am hoping that Intel’s Meteor Lake family will find its way into the mini-ITX motherboards. That should help a lot. But Intel’s “Ultra” family is not going to be sold over the counter, not intended to be user upgradeable (no CPU mount that a use can access.)

Probably the PC diehards will whine about things being soldered on the system board and not user upgradeable. It’s why they dismiss Macs (all current Macs but the Mac Pro tower have no user adjustable items inside.)

Anyway, my eyes gloss over when I look at Windows-world. And Linux is a no-go for me. Therefore I will likely stay with Apple.

The current iMac is a work of art, but limited in memory specifications. The Mac Studio can do about anything… for a price.

I really think the desktop computer market is fading away. People want phones, and maybe a tablet.

But I am old and used to a keyboard…. which makes it all a bit old fashioned of me to want something like I bought 20 years ago.

I have a windows laptop for work. For everything else, mrs coin and I have iPads with bluetooth keyboard/cases. mrs coin is an author and used to haul around a ginormous laptop wherever we went (90% of the time on a motorcycle where space is limited). Since getting her on the iPad/keyboard combo, the only thing she uses the laptop for is some editing work after we get home.

I dunno if you’re stuck on getting a desktop, but refurbed iPads that are only a gen or two older can be had for a couple hundred bucks.

My $.02

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:22:42am

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

Guarantee you Saudi Arabia is near the top of that list, too.

Especially if you count DJT’s family Cabinet members…

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dat_said  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:28:51am

Apparently Mr Trump has posted stuff attacking E. Jean Carroll this Thursday morning in 31 Truth Social posts shared in just 26 minutes. I’m gathering that he didn’t add any personal comments believing that somehow relieves him from further defamation accusations.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:29:40am

Wonkette has a way with words…

Whoever’s Coming To RFK Jr.’s Circle Jerk Birthday Party, It Ain’t Dionne Warwick

wonkette.com

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:30:46am

re: #160 Decatur Deb

(Googling maps) That must be beautiful country. We still have to finish parts of our “4 Corners” camping project. If we stopped on the San Diego-Vancouver leg, we could bomb over to Denver and back. That’s for next year, after the election.

I did it 2 years ago. Parts of the trip were pretty but the most beautiful section is leaving Denver and climbing the Rockies and then following the Colorado River to the Utah border. The other sections are midwest farm land and western desert until you get to Reno and climb over the Sierra.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:31:07am

re: #192 dat_said

Apparently Mr Trump has posted stuff attacking E. Jean Carroll this Thursday morning in 31 Truth Social posts shared in just 26 minutes. I’m gathering that he didn’t add any personal comments believing that somehow relieves him from further defamation accusations.

It would be so sweet to see a certain building in New York renamed THE E. JEAN CARROLL TOWER…

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nines09  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:34:31am

re: #182 Decatur Deb

They have an assortment of salsas. Doesn’t have to be hot. Great food and drinks, and not that bad on pricing considering the quality.
If you get a shot, go. 16th street pedestrian mall is not far from the train depot, half mile or so.

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JC1  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:40:22am

re: #51 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I so need a new computer…

Many websites are difficult to navigate now because my version of Chrome is so old. And Firefox is not of much help on some websites.

I’ll likely just get another Mac. But I’ve been browsing the mini-PC market… and I’m a bit underwhelmed. It seems like the PC gamers are driving the Windows market and they want flashy cases with huge Nvidia cards and kilowatt power supplies.

The mini-PCs seem stuck on old interfaces (USB-A, Display Port), and most are lacking in aesthetics.

I am hoping that Intel’s Meteor Lake family will find its way into the mini-ITX motherboards. That should help a lot. But Intel’s “Ultra” family is not going to be sold over the counter, not intended to be user upgradeable (no CPU mount that a use can access.)

Probably the PC diehards will whine about things being soldered on the system board and not user upgradeable. It’s why they dismiss Macs (all current Macs but the Mac Pro tower have no user adjustable items inside.)

Anyway, my eyes gloss over when I look at Windows-world. And Linux is a no-go for me. Therefore I will likely stay with Apple.

The current iMac is a work of art, but limited in memory specifications. The Mac Studio can do about anything… for a price.

I really think the desktop computer market is fading away. People want phones, and maybe a tablet.

But I am old and used to a keyboard…. which makes it all a bit old fashioned of me to want something like I bought 20 years ago.

Mini PCs built around AMD’s 7840 chip are great. Can’t speak for the aesthetics though.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:40:42am

re: #12 JC1

An unusual 2/6…

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3/6 here

Click to Reveal

Wordle 929 3/6

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:42:29am

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:43:49am

re: #200 Joe Bacon ✅

lol. That’s one way of putting it.

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JC1  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:44:08am

re: #66 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

The flaw comes about when the torches, pitchforks, and guillotines arrive and we start eating the oligarchs.

As Henry Ford realized: workers need to earn enough to buy the products. Without anyone being employed, who will buy the products? UBI would solve that, but it will take a massive shift in thinking to get that done.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:46:19am

re: #202 JC1

As Henry Ford realized: workers need to earn enough to buy the products. Without anyone being employed, who will buy the products? UBI would solve that, but it will take a massive shift in thinking to get that done.

The famous line of the GM manager showing off their new fully automated assembly line and boasting “I don’t see a single union member out there!” to which the union boss replied “I don’t see a single GM customer either!”

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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:48:00am

I upgraded our computers for Christmas this year. All Apple. My girlfriend got the iMac 24”, upgraded to 16gb memory.
I overpaid for a MacBook Pro with the M3 pro chip and 18gb memory.
We should be good for at least 5-6 years

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JC1  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:49:41am

re: #139 lawhawk

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Followup question: Do these people who say Trump is a religious figure consider him the Antichrist bringing about the end times? Because I’d posit that many are hoping for the chaos and End Times thanks to the policies he advances. They’re nihilists and hoping for a better existence after they think they’re getting Raptured.

Reality is another thing - where they’ll just be dead. And everyone else suffers from their religious beliefs.

If the question didn’t specify faith in what, then each of them 100% had faith in something, and it’s a stupid question.

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JC1  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:51:28am

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

Many Evangelicals believe Catholicism is a cult.

True story.

Most religions are cults.

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Egregious Philbin  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:52:56am

The Lukeville border is now open. It was closed for a month, its the main route for Arizonans to get to Puerto Penasco, Sonora Mexico AKA “Rocky Point”. Its a wonderful beach town with fantastic people, amazing food and affordable hotels in every class. During the last month you would have to drive an extra 2 hours through San Luis, which was a PITA. Back in high school and college days, we could just drive right up to the beach and plop a sleeping bag down. Nowadays that same beach has luxury hotels…oh well. There are still places down there you can camp on the beach though.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:59:39am

I’m not the biggest Mark Cuban fan, but the man doesn’t take any shit from anyone:

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 4, 2024 • 9:59:55am

re: #206 JC1

Most religions are cults.

Name one that isn’t

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JC1  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:04:02am

re: #180 William Lewis

I prefer AMD to Intel & have for quite a while.

If I were looking right now, that would be tempting. Storage is way too low for me though so I’d have to add several TB of external storage (games, media (music, movies, photos, etc - I refuse to use the “cloud” stupidity) to make it usable. Otherwise it would be fine for me.

Gen 4 4TB NVME SSDs are down to under $250. Just get one of the TLC ones.
For larger storage needs you still probably want a spinning drive or 2 if you don’t want to spend multiple thousands. Most of the 7840 based mini PCs come with USB4 ports, which are plenty fast for external storage. Or you can set up a NAS.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:04:56am

Mastodon

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:09:10am

re: #209 sizzzzlerz

Name one that isn’t

Religions and cults have different definitions. They can overlap in belief in an imaginary supernatural, but things like isolating people from their families and friends are exclusive to cults. Weird right-wing political churches are cults that isolate people from their families and the larger culture.

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JC1  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:10:29am

re: #209 sizzzzlerz

Name one that isn’t

Pastafarianism.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:13:03am
The Jeffrey Epstein list of associates unsealed by a US judge has reignited suspicions the pedophile financier was an asset for Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency.

Israel’s former prime minister Ehud Barak was identified in the bombshell dossiers Wednesday night. He served as PM from 1991 to 2001 after serving in the IDF for 35 years, rising to Chief of the General Staff.

dailymail.co.uk

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nines09  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:14:40am

Religions would be so much less intrusive if they were not allowed to ask you to join, you must ask them.
No sales force leaning into you.

Islam and Christianity have murdered others of the same faith because it was false, according to the flyer the other was reading.

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jeffreyw  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:14:42am

re: #213 JC1

Pastafarianism.

Are you sanctified via meatball or are you one of those meatsauce splitters *spit*.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:14:56am

Mastodon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:22:23am

re: #206 JC1

Most religions are cults.

There is the linguistic adge: “A language is a dialect with a standing army!”

much the same can be said about the difference between a sect and a religion

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No Malarkey!  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:24:47am

re: #76 William Lewis

Look at the overpopulated mass surviving on Basic Assistance on Earth in the universe of The Expanse for a much more likely future.

I think the more likely dystopian scenario is civilizational collapse due to something like climate change induced mass famine and/or nuclear war. Birth rates are falling globally such that the population of the earth is likely to peak then start dropping this century. If we can get a handle on the climate before it tips over into ecological collapse and can avoid blowing ourselves up, our descendants could enjoy a rosy future!

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:25:01am

Trump ally Roger Stone was filmed taking a phone call from Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio in the leadup to the January 6th attack on the United States Capitol.

As Rolling Stone reports, the call was captured by filmmaker Christoffer Guldbrandsen, who made a documentary on Stone called “A Storm Foretold” that is due to be released in select theaters Friday.

The call came as Stone was organizing the “Stop the Steal” movement intended to keep Trump illegally in power after losing the 2020 election to President Joe Biden.

At the beginning of the call, Stone remarks to Tarrio that “I heard you got stabbed,” apparently in reference to a fight he’d gotten into with Antifa activists.

He then walked out to his car and asked the camera crew for some privacy while he talked with Tarrio, who would go on to be convicted of seditious conspiracy for his central role in inciting the Capitol riots.

“Stone had been busy, launching ‘Stop the Steal’ and mobilizing Trump allies and had just gotten off the phone with General Flynn, when Enrique Tarrio, the national leader of the Proud Boys called. Tarrio’s voice was inaudible, but Stone is heard telling him that he is still waiting for an update from the campaign — before he says he needs to talk without the camera rolling,” Guldbrandsen explained to Rolling Stone.

Stone has long been linked with the Proud Boys, members of which he hired to be his personal security guards. Despite this, Stone has not yet been criminally charged in relation to the January 6th Capitol riots.

rollingstone.com

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No Malarkey!  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:30:27am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ditto for Mormonism

Every religion is a cult until it has been around a few centuries and has a large enough following, then it becomes a religion, and we have to respect the members beliefs as long as they don’t involve ritual human sacrifice.

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HypnoToad  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:30:51am

Got myself a good slide scanner this Christmas, so I’m digitizing a lot of old photos. This one is easily the most exotic and hard to reach place I’ve ever been. These were taken inside the Santa Rita mine in Potosi, Bolivia. Perhaps the oldest carved into Cerro Rico, it is estimated that over 300,000 native and African slaves died here. Although underground, I’m at 15,200 ft. above sea level.

High spot 300 ft. inside the entrance. Tunnel beyond ~4’ in height.

This is where the rest of our small group turned around. I was willing to go ahead and was told by our guide to go straight for about the same distance more, stay to the right at a fork, and to a dead end a little further in. Then turn around and climb the pole ladder going up to the right—there’s a narrow spot where you have to squirm your shoulders to get through, but it’s only for 2 or 3 feet. At the next level, turn right and just ahead to the shrine. I managed to keep my moderate claustrophobia under control!

El Tio (One of several inside the mountain) Offerings of ribbons, cigarette papers, coca leaves, and the like are made to the ruler of the underworld to entreat protection for the miners. It turned out that this was the last shot available on the roll of film!

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:31:17am

Mastodon

He is reaping a rich harvest.

Mastodon

Mastodon

Those are random results. So much more.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:31:53am

re: #158 Randall Gross

bah. fuck. First school shooting of the new year.
cnn.com

Very first day of school after winter break. Tots and pears.

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ipsos  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:32:55am

re: #108 Vicious Babushka

Driving in NY is so intimidating that I leave the car in whatever parking space I can grab like a trophy, and take an Uber wherever I want to go in the city.

I don’t mind driving in NYC. I don’t like parking in NYC.

But here’s the cool thing: my daughter is in college there, and her dorm this year is in Harlem, 10 minutes off the GWB on a very quiet side street where there is almost always a parking space. From there it’s a 5 minute walk to the A train and a one-stop ride downtown.

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Dangerman  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:36:08am

re: #222 HypnoToad

Got myself a good slide scanner this Christmas, so I’m digitizing a lot of old photos. This one is easily the most exotic and hard to reach place I’ve ever been. These were taken inside the Santa Rita mine in Potosi, Bolivia. Perhaps the oldest carved into Cerro Rico, it is estimated that over 300,000 native and African slaves died here. Although underground, I’m at 15,200 ft. above sea level.

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El Tio (One of several inside the mountain) Offerings of ribbons, cigarette papers, coca leaves, and the like are made to the ruler of the underworld to entreat protection for the miners.

I thought you would be taller. //

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Dangerman  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:38:48am
NBC News reporter Vaughn Hillyard asked Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) a question:

HILLYARD: If Trump is found guilty and wins the nomination, would you stand by him at the convention?

DeSANTIS: (walks away without answering)

Link

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:39:53am

re: #216 jeffreyw

Are you sanctified via meatball or are you one of those meatsauce splitters *spit*.

I Feel Sanctified-1974

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:40:19am

re: #227 Dangerman

He’ll answer that on November 6th.

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Dangerman  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:42:36am

Florida woman

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silverdolphin  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:43:13am

re: #115 Hecuba’s daughter

Although the Washington Post and NY Times each have flaws, it’s not as though there is some other daily publication that will provide in-depth news and a consistent set of editorial/opinion page columns that we can all accept. If they go, the available news sources will be even worse than today. Do you really want to rely on the Murdoch WSJ whose editorial policy has been disgraceful for forever? Tell me — what other news organization has the resources and the appropriate point of view for a daily paper of record?

I find the Guardian US has a much better and more liberal view. It is now my paper of record. Because of things like this - Biden’s first 2024 campaign ad highlights threats to US democracy

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:43:59am

re: #113 lawhawk

I find your comment about driving in NYC rather funny, having grown up there and learned to drive there. Driving in NYC is relaxing and stress relieving for me - since it takes my mind off all the other things going on where I can concentrate on driving and skillfully avoiding accidents, traffic, etc., to get to my destination and finding a plum parking spot.

But I get that it can be extremely intimidating to someone who isn’t from these parts or someone who isn’t comfortable handling traffic (and lots of aggressive drivers).

New York City driving is the worst, driving in Brooklyn is second worst. Driving through Newark to get to the Holland Tunnel sucks.

Weird that I never had a problem driving in LA even though the traffic is nerve wracking the streets of LA are built for cars and the streets of NYC are built for dog carts.

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:46:03am

Also while driving in NYC the stress level is at 11 because some assholes will always try to cut you off if you leave even one centimeter of space between your front bumper and the car ahead of you. They see an out of state license and it’s all haha let’s shut out this rube tourist from making that right turn up ahead.

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Dangerman  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:47:10am

re: #192 dat_said

Apparently Mr Trump has posted stuff attacking E. Jean Carroll this Thursday morning in 31 Truth Social posts shared in just 26 minutes. I’m gathering that he didn’t add any personal comments believing that somehow relieves him from further defamation accusations.

She needs to file a brief and point out that the punitive damages so far are clearly too small to have any impact on his behavior.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:50:29am

re: #223 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

Those are random results. So much more.

Mastodon

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:50:44am

re: #233 Vicious Babushka

Saw this on the road the other day:

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JC1  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:51:49am

re: #231 silverdolphin

I find the Guardian US has a much better and more liberal view. It is now my paper of record. Because of things like this - Biden’s first 2024 campaign ad highlights threats to US democracy

I also like The Economist. Not perfect, but solid.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:53:48am

to the above debate, It was said to me that Religion is worship of a deity. A Cult is worship of a personality posing as, or being replaced as a deity.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 4, 2024 • 10:55:38am

re: #157 Randall Gross

Islamic State claims Iran Terror attack

Relieved that they are the apparent culprits, rather than one of our allies.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 4, 2024 • 1:20:43pm

re: #115 Hecuba’s daughter

Although the Washington Post and NY Times each have flaws, it’s not as though there is some other daily publication that will provide in-depth news and a consistent set of editorial/opinion page columns that we can all accept. If they go, the available news sources will be even worse than today. Do you really want to rely on the Murdoch WSJ whose editorial policy has been disgraceful for forever? Tell me — what other news organization has the resources and the appropriate point of view for a daily paper of record?

If none of them have journalistic integrity they all should be allowed to fail and be ignored. That some with deep pockets hang around as propaganda outlets is not a reason for me to shell out money to one that is “not quite as bad”. At this point I have little trust for any of the media outlets unto themselves. Very much a “Verify before you trust” media world out there now. The Fourth Estate has made its bed by chasing the dollar and is entering the find out phase.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 4, 2024 • 1:21:54pm

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Gotta maintain a horserace. If they just up and admit that the GOP is not fit to govern, that would really dampen reader/viewership.

Fact they don’t is one reason I feel no reason to support them.


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