Focus on Palin’s Looks May Have Hurt Her
Did sex appeal hurt Sarah Palin in the election?
Did sex appeal hurt Sarah Palin in the election?
2 | SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:42:46am |
She didn't give Chrissy a tingle, but guess who did.
3 | CIA Reject Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:43:31am |
I think the hit-job the MSM did on her hurt more.
4 | vagabond trader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:44:11am |
Oh come now, every thinking voter knows that the only factor holding Palin down was having to hold up the old glue horse.
6 | HelloDare Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:45:14am |
Better to look like Harry Reid, I guess.
Sarah, stop the moisturizer. You'd do better shrunken and wrinkled.
7 | dhg4 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:45:41am |
And if she looked like Madeline Albright, the same guys would have written that she was hurt because she was unattractive.
9 | Ojoe Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:46:57am |
Psychological bullshit focus group questionnaires prove things in the realm of idiots.
10 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:46:59am |
So much for women's lib on the left.
A successful, both professional and at home, good looking, self confident, elk hunting, conservative woman, is just isn't good enough.
11 | Honorary Yooper Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:47:03am |
Funny, when you consider all the MFM attention on Obama's looks. There was a Chicago columnist who wished she could've followed him into the locker room (yes, Lynn Sweet, that'd be you). Obviously the MFM turning Obama into a sex symbol didn't hurt his chances.
12 | red satellite Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:47:11am |
Did sex appeal hurt Sarah Palin in the election?
No, John McCain did.
13 | VegasRick Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:47:32am |
re: #2 SasquatchOnSteroids
She didn't give Chrissy a tingle, but guess who did.
That says a lot about Chrissy. I know Mr. Clinton got one.
14 | soxfan4life Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:47:37am |
Well maybe she can watch Michelle for the next 4 years we heard plenty about how atractive she is. Tone up those arms Sarah. And put on your war face. It worked for WAB.
16 | Honorary Yooper Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:49:14am |
re: #15 Ojoe
TV has lobotomized America.
We were lobotomized well before that. TV just didn't help any.
17 | VegasRick Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:49:17am |
18 | calcajun Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:49:27am |
You know, there is no such thing as a stupid question, but there sure are a lot of inquisitive idiots--and they're all in the media.
20 | SlartyBartfast Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:49:51am |
"She hardly demonstrated a grasp of the issues..."?
A grasp, nevertheless--unlike the media's darling who never held the reigns of power to anything more complex than a tricycle.
That generalization only serves to diminsh the writer.
I will say one thing: that's a sharp-looking shotgun!
22 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:49:59am |
By demonizing Palin based on her looks and her choice of family before career the left proved themselves to be more bigoted and misogynist than their worst caricatures of conservatives could ever be.
23 | MrSilverDragon Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:50:13am |
24 | calvin coolidge Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:50:18am |
I'm waiting for the brain trust at Indiana University to release their report.
25 | Spartacus50 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:50:33am |
Did Tina Fey's looks effect her Nielsen ratings for 30 Rock?
26 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:50:39am |
re: #9 Ojoe
Psychological bullshit focus group questionnaires prove things in the realm of idiots.
Rotating title nomination!
27 | Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:51:05am |
re: #15 Ojoe
TV has lobotomized America.
The Rocky and Bullwinkle movie was accurate.
(In it, Fearless Leader creates a TV network that reduces people's intelligence until they vote for him for President.)
And that is different from reality how?
28 | Amer-I-Can Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:51:18am |
Sarah Palin was done wrong by her own campaign as well as the MSM. If they would have played to her brains.... !?!? Who knows what would have happened.
The MSM force fed us McCain, and then hatcheted Palin with the immediate attacks on her good looks. I guess if you look at "Liberal Chicks", you could see how beauty and brains don't go together very well on the left.
29 | Billy Hank Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:51:36am |
No.
Being a Republican running against The One hurt her with the press. Having McCain's campaign manage her hurt.
30 | Ojoe Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:51:42am |
re: #20 SlartyBartfast
"She hardly demonstrated a grasp of the issues..."?
She was the only candidate IIRC who actually said, regarding the financial crisis, that "Americans had made poor personal financial choices", words to that effect.
She had a better grasp than any of them.
31 | neocon hippie Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:51:50am |
Meanwhile, the Dow is down 219 points. So much for yesterday's gain.
33 | reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:52:22am |
IMPOSSIBLE!
She's way easy on the eyes!
34 | CIA Reject Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:52:22am |
re: #27 Kosh's Shadow
The Rocky and Bullwinkle movie was accurate.
(In it, Fearless Leader creates a TV network that reduces people's intelligence until they vote for him for President.)
And that is different from reality how?
in 1962 it was a joke!
Sadly, no longer...
35 | VegasRick Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:52:23am |
re: #27 Kosh's Shadow
The Rocky and Bullwinkle movie was accurate.
(In it, Fearless Leader creates a TV network that reduces people's intelligence until they vote for him for President.)
And that is different from reality how?
I'd rather have Rocky or Bullwinkle in office than the zero.
37 | Chicken Kiev Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:52:45am |
This is ridiculous. She was hurt by savage reporters and comedians. Did something about Hillary's looks keep Hillary from winning the nomination? Sarah hardly had a chance in hell once the reporters circled her like wolves and the O-worship went into high gear.
38 | Erik The Red Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:53:08am |
re: #22 DaddyG
By demonizing Palin based on her looks and her choice of family before career the left proved themselves to be more bigoted and misogynist than their worst caricatures of conservatives could ever be.
100 up dings.
39 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:53:23am |
re: #31 neocon hippie
Meanwhile, the Dow is down
2196000 points. So much foryesterday'sthe last decades gains.
FIFY
40 | Honorary Yooper Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:53:47am |
re: #21 badger1970
I just blame Sesame Street.
Sesame Street doesn't explain the idiocy of the Boomers (of which, Obama is one).
43 | Teacake! Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:54:28am |
LOL wouldn't want any lefty females boyfriends or husbands fantasizing about a Republican.
44 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:54:43am |
re: #31 neocon hippie
Meanwhile, the Dow is down 219 points. So much for yesterday's gain.
Rush renamed the Dow this morning.
The Obama Daily Tracking Poll......
45 | debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:54:43am |
re: #37 Chicken Kiev
This is ridiculous. She was hurt by savage reporters and comedians. Did something about Hillary's looks keep Hillary from winning the nomination? Sarah hardly had a chance in hell once the reporters circled her like wolves and the O-worship went into high gear.
Nothing to do with looks - it was all politics.
46 | Ringo the Gringo Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:54:55am |
Focus on Palin's Looks May Have Hurt Her
Yeah, I have the same problem.
47 | Zimriel Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:55:12am |
What McCain's daughter taught us yesterday was that when a woman is seen as a sex object, men and women don't take her seriously.
Mind you, unlike Miss McCain, Palin managed to go through 40-something years of life without posting her sex issues on the Daily Beast...
48 | soxfan4life Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:55:24am |
re: #43 Teacake!
LOL wouldn't want any lefty females
boyfriends or husbandsgirlfriends fantasizing about a Republican.
FTFY
49 | Scorch Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:55:39am |
re: #14 soxfan4life
Well maybe she can watch Michelle for the next 4 years we heard plenty about how atractive she is. Tone up those arms Sarah. And put on your war face. It worked for WAB.
Depressing thought of seeing Michelle for 4 years after enjoying seeing a true first lady the last 8 years. Missing Laura just as much as George in the white house.
50 | JammieWearingFool Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:55:40am |
Yes, let's pretend her being hot was a detriment.
While we're at it, let's all swoon over Obama's hulking wife the Worf and pretend she's some fashion icon.
51 | pat Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:55:43am |
This article appears to mix cause and effect. The 133 college kids were already severely biased by the right wing media and their centrists professors.
52 | Wendya Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:55:45am |
John McCain and the Beltway republicans hurt Palin.
53 | bulwrk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:55:51am |
I didn't need a university study to tell me strong attractive white women that can handle a firearm scare the crap out of democrats.
54 | tfc3rid Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:56:20am |
re: #31 neocon hippie
Meanwhile, the Dow is down 219 points. So much for yesterday's gain.
No need to pay attention to the daily ups and downs of the market...
55 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:56:25am |
OT: Liberals embrace the right's "Academic freedom" concept.....
Ayers, Churchill to appear at CU student event
Former Colorado professor Ward Churchill was vilified for comparing Sept. 11 victims to Nazi Adolf Eichmann. Former Weather Underground member William Ayers was vilified as a radical.
On Thursday, they'll appear together at a student rally for academic freedom at the University of Colorado-Boulder, days before Churchill, who was fired on plagiarism charges, goes to court in an attempt to get his job back.
Churchill, Ayers and writer-activist Derrick Jensen are to speak at an event titled, "Forbidden Education and the Rise of Neo-McCarthyism." Sponsors are Students for True Academic Freedom, the 180 Degree Shift at the 11th Hour, and the Student Environmental Action Coalition.
56 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:56:42am |
I have no doubt that Sarah scared many democratic men who have issues with their own sexuality.
57 | soxfan4life Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:57:19am |
re: #49 Scorch
Depressing thought of seeing Michelle for 4 years after enjoying seeing a true first lady the last 8 years. Missing Laura just as much as George in the white house.
4 years of WAB as First Lady might shine a good light on HRC as First Lady.
58 | turn Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:57:26am |
This is pure BS. Even if she did lose support because of her good looks I'd wager she would more than offset that with the support of all the women (including the turnwife) who think the first dude is drop dead handsome.
60 | NukeAtomrod Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:57:39am |
Yep. It must be her looks. There's no chance it had anything to do with the savage and unfair treatment she received by the media. Or the fact that her running mate was the worst possible candidate of the republican choices. It was her looks... Abso-friggin-lutely!
/////// Ron Paul would have done better. (And I think his isolationist stance is suicide.)
61 | pat Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:58:00am |
re: #55 Killgore Trout
I like the Fark description:
Bill Ayers and Ward Churchill meet to discuss finding a third person to round out their Asses of Evil group
62 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:58:13am |
Why can't we look at a candidate for her/his abilities and STOP pushing looks and how expensive a person can dress up.
It's about as shallow as it comes. What the hell is wrong with us?
63 | JammieWearingFool Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:58:20am |
I recall when those pictures of the wrinkled Hillary first surfaced everyone was scolded about focusing on the looks of female politicians.
Aren't double standards wonderful?
64 | DistantThunder Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:58:21am |
No doubt that an underlying assumption about attractive women is that they slept their way up the ladder. From all indications she is an incredibly competent governor and hard worker and honest. What more do people want?
For some reason that I cannot quite figure out liberals respect and admire Hillary more than a type of woman like Palin.
Imagine waking up from a coma after 25 years and having your two grown daughters at your bedside - one Sarah - and one Hillary.
One is a governor, with an adoring husband, and 5 beautiful children, is slim and attractive, a private business owner, and is known for her honesty and integrity.
The other is dumpy, married to a man who is a serial adulterer, has had episodes of physical violence in the marriage, and has one daughter who she forgot to retrieve from hotel room while on a business trip (in russia) (who works for a hedge fund.) She is known to be conniving, dishonest and ruthless, and has a cackle that will peel paint.
Why is there even a question as to who is more competent?
65 | Catttt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:58:46am |
So - does this mean Brad Pitt would be hampered by his looks if he ran for something? I don't THINK so.
It's the old pretty woman thing. I think also a LOT of men saw "the sexy librarian" when they looked at her. It was always in the back of their minds.
66 | DistantThunder Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:58:53am |
re: #20 SlartyBartfast
"She hardly demonstrated a grasp of the issues..."?
A grasp, nevertheless--unlike the media's darling who never held the reigns of power to anything more complex than a tricycle.
That generalization only serves to diminsh the writer.
I will say one thing: that's a sharp-looking shotgun!
Or Mr Joe Biden with his 22 mistakes during the VP debates....
67 | Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:59:08am |
re: #34 CIA Reject
in 1962 it was a joke!
Sadly, no longer...
The movie was more recent, with Robert DeNiro as Fearless Leader, and Jason Alexander and Rene Russo as Boris and Natasha.
Moose and Squirrel played themselves.
(No, Bullwinkle, bad moose, I didn't say you played with yourselves)
(But I did just buy seasons 1-3 of the original animated show on DVD)
68 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:59:32am |
re: #62 Walter L. Newton
Why can't we look at a candidate for her/his abilities and STOP pushing looks and how expensive a person can dress up.
It's about as shallow as it comes. What the hell is wrong with us?
Well just speaking for myself, I think the fantasies I had of myself with Palin were perfectly fine. OK, maybe a tad on the wild side but hey.....
69 | reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:59:47am |
re: #62 Walter L. Newton
Good question Walter!
I have an idea!
Ya'll now any good GRANT writers?
Get me a piece of the pie!
70 | Haole Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:59:51am |
Drawing so many people that you have to hold your rallies at a Bass Pro shop parking lot hurt her.
/
71 | Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:59:53am |
re: #35 VegasRick
I'd rather have Rocky or Bullwinkle in office than the zero.
So would I.
BTW, in the movie, there is a mole in the president's office.
72 | DistantThunder Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:00:00am |
re: #65 Catttt
So - does this mean Brad Pitt would be hampered by his looks if he ran for something? I don't THINK so.
It's the old pretty woman thing. I think also a LOT of men saw "the sexy librarian" when they looked at her. It was always in the back of their minds.
There are plenty of attractive GOP women in congress, and in state legislatures, but it is the smart GOP's voting for them. I think liberals are too threatened and envious.
74 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:00:16am |
re: #68 Nevergiveup
Well just speaking for myself, I think the fantasies I had of myself with Palin were perfectly fine. OK, maybe a tad on the wild side but hey.....
Did she make you beg for clemency?
75 | Scorch Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:00:18am |
re: #53 bulwrk
I didn't need a university study to tell me strong attractive white women that can handle a firearm scare the crap out of democrats.
Speaking of firearms, ordered 500 rounds of 30-06 for 40 cents a round and 300 rounds of 22-250 for 80 cents a round. Ouch that small caliber hurt but love the muzzle velocity.
76 | Gearhead Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:00:31am |
The media judged both Palin and Obama only on their appearance and stopped digging any deeper than that. They became intoxicated with the thought of "America's first African American President" and stifled any real investigation into Obama's background and qualifications.
With Palin, I think they perceived a real threat, particlarly when they saw how energized the GOP base became. Thus, her looks became the avenue of attack. They placed enormous pressure on her, basically trying to make every move a mistake.
The GOP old guard also didn't step up and help - I'm thinking of Peggy Noonan, here.
McCain and his b-team band of staffers didn't do her any favors either.
77 | soxfan4life Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:00:36am |
I'm sure had she opted to abort Trig she would have been a media darling.
78 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:00:50am |
79 | Morganfrost Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:00:55am |
Ridiculous. Chris Matthews and most of the liberal media were obviously very attracted to Obama, and he won.
80 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:01:04am |
I skimmed the article, and noticed that they paired Gov. Palin with Angelina Jolie. Nothing against Ms. Jolie - she's done some good work - but what the hell. When it comes to politics/governance, comparing the two is like comparing a Bentley to a Ford Focus.
"Well, let's see, they're both cars."
"What else?"
"Uhh......"
It's silly.
81 | dhg4 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:01:15am |
re: #24 calvin coolidge
I'm waiting for the brain trust at Indiana University to release their report.
Yup, it's articles like this that disprove that study.
82 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:01:15am |
re: #69 reloadingisnotahobby
Good question Walter!
I have an idea!
Ya'll now any good GRANT writers?
Get me a piece of the pie!
I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not involved in grants. I don't get a piece of any grant pie. What did you ask?
83 | reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:01:34am |
re: #75 Scorch
I'm lucky to find brass for that price!
NOT fair!
85 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:02:07am |
86 | Erik The Red Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:02:23am |
Way OT: Only a broken arm. Hit by a train and a semi-truck
87 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:02:35am |
re: #82 Walter L. Newton
I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not involved in grants. I don't get a piece of any grant pie. What did you ask?
Because I think we all would like you help in making up out grant request to see if we can get a piece of the pie. We think you write well.
88 | pat Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:02:40am |
Frontloader attack:
Schachar said the man was killed and an open copy of the Quran, Islam's holy book, was found in the vehicle. He said the presence of the book indicated the attacker was affiliated with or influenced by Islamic radicals. Police said the two wounded officers were lightly hurt.
89 | clgood Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:02:53am |
I think that's one of the most spectacularly badly designed studies I've ever seen. How they thought it would "measure" the impact of Palin's looks on the election is beyond me.
Start with their sample: College undergrads. Excuse me? How many were likely McCain/Palin voters to begin with? They were going to find more Jolie voters than that.
It may be that America is not ready for an attractive woman as president. I happen to agree that beautiful women have a hard time being taken seriously. But this study doesn't come close to being evidence for that.
90 | reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:02:57am |
re: #82 Walter L. Newton
Just a joke!
....Getting a Gov.. grant to find out what really IS wrong with us!
91 | snowcrash Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:03:01am |
re: #50 JammieWearingFool
Worf? have to google images now. lol brb
93 | DistantThunder Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:04:10am |
Who doesn't take Megyn Kelly seriously. Did anyone see her chew up and spit out Arlen Spector before his big vote? She was a firecracker.
94 | reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:04:30am |
re: #87 Nevergiveup
Because I think we all would like you help in making up out grant request to see if we can get a piece of the pie. We think you write well.
You said it better!
I've read grants for some very peculiar thing!
95 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:04:34am |
re: #87 Nevergiveup
Because I think we all would like you help in making up out grant request to see if we can get a piece of the pie. We think you write well.
I won't take grant money. I've explained that here in the past. I write because I like to write, sometimes my stuff gets produced and sometimes a make a few dollars from it. But, I'm not interested in someone giving me money ahead of time, public money, to write.
And I'm not interested in writing grants.
96 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:04:36am |
re: #75 Scorch
Speaking of firearms, ordered 500 rounds of 30-06 for 40 cents a round and 300 rounds of 22-250 for 80 cents a round. Ouch that small caliber hurt but love the muzzle velocity.
Okay, gotta ask: where the heck are you finding 30-06 at .40 a round? That's a great price - if what they're going for around here is any example (almost $1.00).
97 | turn Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:04:46am |
re: #76 Gearhead
Peggy Noonan is a turncoat. I agree appearances weigh heavy in the leftie decision making process. After all, the NYT had a front page story today about how O is already beginning to gray.
98 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:04:48am |
re: #86 Erik The Red
Way OT: Only a broken arm. Hit by a train and a semi-truck
Nice analogy for the Obama bailout & budget and our economy.
100 | turn Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:05:33am |
re: #77 soxfan4life
I'm sure had she opted to abort Trig she would have been a media darling.
Sick but true.
101 | soxfan4life Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:06:04am |
102 | reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:06:06am |
re: #96 subsailor68
That's about my cost to reload them!
104 | CIA Reject Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:06:37am |
re: #67 Kosh's Shadow
The movie was more recent, with Robert DeNiro as Fearless Leader, and Jason Alexander and Rene Russo as Boris and Natasha.
Moose and Squirrel played themselves.
(No, Bullwinkle, bad moose, I didn't say you played with yourselves)(But I did just buy seasons 1-3 of the original animated show on DVD)
Watch the DVDs - the series was a treasure!
Gotta get back to work
/Cheers!
105 | Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:06:42am |
re: #88 pat
Frontloader attack:
Schachar said the man was killed and an open copy of the Quran, Islam's holy book, was found in the vehicle. He said the presence of the book indicated the attacker was affiliated with or influenced by Islamic radicals. Police said the two wounded officers were lightly hurt.
I hope they treated the Quran with respect, Muslims around the world will seethe.
/I won't say what they should do with it, and the terrorist's body
106 | Leonidas Hoplite Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:06:44am |
re: #50 JammieWearingFool
Yes, let's pretend her being hot was a detriment.
While we're at it, let's all swoon over Obama's hulking wife the Worf and pretend she's some fashion icon.
Worf. Awesome though I think that's an insult to Klingons!
107 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:06:53am |
re: #95 Walter L. Newton
I won't take grant money. I've explained that here in the past. I write because I like to write, sometimes my stuff gets produced and sometimes a make a few dollars from it. But, I'm not interested in someone giving me money ahead of time, public money, to write.
And I'm not interested in writing grants.
That's fine, but would you help us less principled lizards try and get a piece of the gravy train?
/ anyway we are mostly joking
108 | Scorch Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:07:02am |
re: #83 reloadingisnotahobby
I'm lucky to find brass for that price!
NOT fair!
It's greek circa 1960's but my buds tell me it's good ammo.
109 | Wendya Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:07:24am |
re: #62 Walter L. Newton
Why can't we look at a candidate for her/his abilities and STOP pushing looks and how expensive a person can dress up.
It's about as shallow as it comes. What the hell is wrong with us?
The television is the most important source of information and entertainment in the lives of the vast majority of Americans and you have to ask that question?
110 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:07:31am |
re: #102 reloadingisnotahobby
That's about my cost to reload them!
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too!
111 | turn Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:07:34am |
112 | realwest Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:07:53am |
re: #64 DistantThunder
Excellent comment DT, wish I could give you a 100 updings for that one.
The funny thing is that of all four candidates (Obama, Mcain Biden and Palin) she was by far the most qualified to GOVERN. She'd one it already - as a mayor and as a governor. She'd had to come up with a budget in each job, figure out the needs of her constituents, find a way to meet those needs (usually, but not always meaning taxes and attracting businesses and jobs) and lay it all out and have a legislature approve it. That's more "governing experience" than Obama, Biden and McCain put together.
Foreign policy? She would have done better, but certainly no worse than Obama (I don't think anyone on the current political scene could have done worse than he has).
As I said, great post DT!
113 | DistantThunder Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:08:10am |
re: #93 DistantThunder
Who doesn't take Megyn Kelly seriously. Did anyone see her chew up and spit out Arlen Spector before his big vote? She was a firecracker.
Here's the video where she goes after him ont he helath care provision int he stimulous bill. check out the exchange near the end at 5:45. Made me laugh.
[Link: www.mofopolitics.com...]
114 | Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:08:16am |
re: #104 CIA Reject
Watch the DVDs - the series was a treasure!
Gotta get back to work
/Cheers!
I bought them to watch.
Now I have something I'm really going to like.
116 | A.W. Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:08:53am |
Well of course.
If she is pretty, she is a bimbo.
If she was not, well that would be a problem too.
But on the other hand, everyone loves how obama looks and it is not a problem. And Sullivan obsesses on Edwards's hair.
But don't go thinking this is a gender thing. Because all of this would be reversed, mostly, if Palin was a Democrat.
117 | reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:09:06am |
re: #108 Scorch
Can I have dibbs on your spent brass?
Primer crimp just adds one step in case prep!
Thanks in advance!
Need any up dings?
I'll stop groveling now!
119 | Gearhead Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:09:40am |
re: #97 turn
Peggy Noonan is a turncoat. I agree appearances weigh heavy in the leftie decision making process. After all, the NYT had a front page story today about how O is already beginning to gray.
When you think about the broadcast media in particular, they have so much pressure on themselves re: their appearance (I just read a story about Rachel Maddow's need to "glam up"). Really, it's like they're just filtering the rest of the world through their own experiences. We all do that, but they act as if they are above it somehow.
120 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:09:59am |
re: #61 pat
I know Fark doesn't like LGF but they are some really funny folks over there.
121 | Leonidas Hoplite Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:10:36am |
122 | soxfan4life Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:10:37am |
re: #119 Gearhead
When you think about the broadcast media in particular, they have so much pressure on themselves re: their appearance (I just read a story about Rachel Maddow's need to "glam up"). Really, it's like they're just filtering the rest of the world through their own experiences. We all do that, but they act as if they are above it somehow.
There's not enough air to air brush that Fugly Bitch.
123 | turn Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:10:38am |
re: #103 buzzsawmonkey
Hey there buzz, I've been known to make fashion statements with my outdoor apparel :.)
124 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:11:13am |
125 | AuntAcid Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:11:31am |
re: #111 turn
You mean he wasn't a Buddhist after all?
/
Surprising choice of "weapons" as Muslim men are backhoers, not frontloaders.
127 | Gearhead Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:11:53am |
re: #103 buzzsawmonkey
You didn't follow the recent Fashion Week in New York? Everybody's wearing turncoats this season.
The turncoats are coming! The turncoats are coming!
As a rule, I try to avoid garments that fasten in the back.
129 | reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:12:21am |
re: #126 BatGuano
Thank you for using a lower case "o"!
131 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:12:49am |
re: #107 Nevergiveup
That's fine, but would you help us less principled lizards try and get a piece of the gravy train?
/ anyway we are mostly joking
I didn't know if anyone was joking. Because I work for a non-profit organization, I get a lot of "well, you take public funds." Well, we do, some. There is a fund called the SCFD (Scientific and Cultural Facilities District) which collects 1 penny on every 10 dollars spent in the area. And then that money is split between over 400 organizations. And not evenly. The Denver Center for the Performing arts gets 14 million, we get 35-50 thousand, depending on the year.
Most of our funding is patrons, members and a few private funding sources. We are very good stewards of the money we make from ticket sales, and the quality of our work more than makes up for the little bit of funding that we do get.
We generally stay away from playing the grant game. That can take up so much of your time, you have no time to actually produce a quality product.
132 | lawhawk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:12:58am |
It's the Bank of Obama. Bail out yourself or your friends. Considering that Obama is treating the US dollar like Monopoly money, this isn't far off.
133 | littleoldlady Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:13:14am |
Palin's looks...Palin's clothes...yaddayaddayadda.
How do you spell MISOGYNY?
134 | DistantThunder Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:13:20am |
re: #112 realwest
Excellent comment DT, wish I could give you a 100 updings for that one.
The funny thing is that of all four candidates (Obama, Mcain Biden and Palin) she was by far the most qualified to GOVERN. She'd one it already - as a mayor and as a governor. She'd had to come up with a budget in each job, figure out the needs of her constituents, find a way to meet those needs (usually, but not always meaning taxes and attracting businesses and jobs) and lay it all out and have a legislature approve it. That's more "governing experience" than Obama, Biden and McCain put together.
Foreign policy? She would have done better, but certainly no worse than Obama (I don't think anyone on the current political scene could have done worse than he has).
As I said, great post DT!
Thanks realwest. I don't think our electorate has a clue as to how to choose a competent candidate, and so they bypass quality, and buy into the Santa Claus delusion.
135 | Scorch Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:13:22am |
re: #96 subsailor68
Here's the link but they are out.
[Link: www.cheaperthandirt.com...]
136 | Wendya Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:13:31am |
re: #112 realwest
The funny thing is that of all four candidates (Obama, Mcain Biden and Palin) she was by far the most qualified to GOVERN.
You know, I pointed that out here and on other forums only to have so-called conservative voters tell me she was just an empty fluff ball chosen for her looks. The problem isn't just on the left. There are plenty of shallow, self absorbed twits on the right as well.
137 | kynna Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:13:48am |
re: #42 Iron Fist
She should be childless, angry, and shrill. Like Susan Sarandon or Rosie O'Donnel.
Sarandon and O'Donnel have children. They don't have husbands. That makes them more credible on the big issues.
////
138 | vagabond trader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:13:56am |
Nary a word of media man crushes on The Obama expressed with such giddy abandon.
139 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:13:59am |
Palin's look might have had an effect but what really hurt Palin was Palin. It wasn't unfair media coverage or some grand liberal conspiracy. I tried to like Palin until I heard her interview with Dobson. She is responsible for her own failure.
140 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:13:59am |
re: #135 Scorch
Here's the link but they are out.
[Link: www.cheaperthandirt.com...]
Cool! Thanks. (And nope, I'm not surprised they're out.)
141 | turn Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:14:09am |
re: #119 Gearhead
When you think about the broadcast media in particular, they have so much pressure on themselves re: their appearance (I just read a story about Rachel Maddow's need to "glam up"). Really, it's like they're just filtering the rest of the world through their own experiences. We all do that, but they act as if they are above it somehow.
Lefties are so full of themselves. Ha, that dyke couldn't "glam up" if her life depended on it.
142 | MandyManners Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:14:33am |
143 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:14:50am |
re: #137 kynna
Sarandon and O'Donnel have children. They don't have husbands. That makes them more credible on the big issues.
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Isn't Sarandon married to that actor?
145 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:15:40am |
re: #143 Nevergiveup
Isn't Sarandon married to that actor?
AFAIK, Sarandon and Tim Robbins have been together for years, but never married.
146 | Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:16:08am |
147 | kynna Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:16:22am |
148 | Wendya Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:16:22am |
re: #128 Iron Fist
It appears that the one and His minions has decided not to take up gun control, at least not yet.
They're not going to be that blatant, yet. What I expect to see is huge taxes and restrictions of ammunition that are inserted into non related bills in the hopes we won't find out about it until it's a done deal.
149 | turn Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:16:28am |
re: #126 BatGuano
The one is speaking now on health care.
and the market is where? oh -184 and change
150 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:16:42am |
re: #145 subsailor68
AFAIK, Sarandon and Tim Robbins have been together for years, but never married.
So they are living in sin? You mean their kids are bastards? Whoda thought that?
151 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:17:11am |
re: #147 kynna
Nup. They are 'partners'.
How come everyone seems to know this but me? I really got to get out more.
152 | Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:17:43am |
Pentgon Targeted In Suspected Missile Plot
Seven men associated with Hezbollah, are locked up for trying to make a deal with an F-B-I informant: You attack the Pentagon, we'll provide the missiles.
Although a few of the men were in the U.S. illegally, all seven were holding valid Virginia Driver's Licenses.
Sameh Ibrahim, Muhammed Jameel Abdelazez, Akram Salih, Ibrahim Fadel Hamed and Ayman Ibrahim along with his brother Basem Ibrahim all lived in Alexandria.
The group's alleged kingpin Amjad Mustafa Hamed, the one who pleaded guilty to trying to sell shoulder fired missiles, lived in Springfield.
153 | Gearhead Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:17:45am |
re: #141 turn
Lefties are so full of themselves. Ha, that dyke couldn't "glam up" if her life depended on it.
She and Neal Boortz need to do a 'Hannity and Colmes'-style show (maybe call it 'Faces for Radio')
I can imagine the fireworks now...
154 | BatGuano Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:17:48am |
re: #129 reloadingisnotahobby
Funny you should mention that. Now that I think about it I try to capitalize proper names, capitals, titles, etc., But as I typed it, I didn't feel compelled to capitalize it.
155 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:17:49am |
Anyone see Rosanne's latest?
156 | quickjustice Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:18:06am |
Palin is extremely charismatic. Her beauty is part of the package. She'll be back.
157 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:18:25am |
re: #146 Kosh's Shadow
There goes all the health care stocks.
Yeah, he started his speech, "My fellow, young, healthy, clueless Americans, it is time to tell your parents, grandparents, and anyone else who's not feeling well that it is time to pass the torch to a new, hale and hearty generation."
Makes me sick.
(Oops.)
159 | Scorch Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:19:00am |
re: #140 subsailor68
Cool! Thanks. (And nope, I'm not surprised they're out.)
Your welcome. Always ready to help out a fellow swabbie and gun enthusiast.
160 | NJDhockeyfan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:19:07am |
re: #152 Kenneth
Sameh Ibrahim, Muhammed Jameel Abdelazez, Akram Salih, Ibrahim Fadel Hamed and Ayman Ibrahim along with his brother Basem Ibrahim all lived in Alexandria.
The group's alleged kingpin Amjad Mustafa Hamed, the one who pleaded guilty to trying to sell shoulder fired missiles, lived in Springfield.
Quakers?
162 | kynna Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:19:49am |
re: #145 subsailor68
AFAIK, Sarandon and Tim Robbins have been together for years, but never married.
This is actually to their credit. Would you marry either one of them?
They could probably be considered 'common law'. I don't know the details of their home life, or even if they live in the same home. Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell have a similar situation.
But I do think Palin being in a happy marriage with lots of kids and a dreamy husband hurt her with the libs and even some moderates.
Just can't trust the happy ones, can ya? //
163 | tripletdad Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:20:03am |
How about that second comment at the bottom - how "she could easily ruin the country with her lack of a grasp of basic concepts." Sounds a lot like the guy they voted for, as we watch the stock market nose-dive.
165 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:20:16am |
re: #158 buzzsawmonkey
Have they signed up for domestic partnership?
Is marriage to middle class for them. Other commie bastards were married weren't they? Lenin was married.
167 | kynna Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:20:43am |
re: #151 Nevergiveup
How come everyone seems to know this but me? I really got to get out more.
Oh no, you're the lucky one. The less you know about Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins the better!
168 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:21:03am |
re: #167 kynna
Oh no, you're the lucky one. The less you know about Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins the better!
Good point.
170 | HDrepub Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:21:10am |
The biggest obstacle a woman faces in seeking high office is other women. So says Don Surber
171 | Scorch Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:22:39am |
re: #157 subsailor68
Yeah, he started his speech, "My fellow, young, healthy, clueless Americans, it is time to tell your parents, grandparents, and anyone else who's not feeling well that it is time to pass the torch to a new, hale and hearty generation."
Makes me sick.
(Oops.)
Looks like euthanasia will be vogue here in the US as it is in the Netherlands.
172 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:22:56am |
re: #162 kynna
This is actually to their credit. Would you marry either one of them?
Good point! Their being together keeps them out of the overall gene pool.
(Or at least stuck in the shallow end.)
;-)
173 | DistantThunder Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:23:13am |
re: #142 MandyManners
That explains my sudden, post-nasal drip.
I written here before that we are on the NJ state health plan because New Jersey has frozen out or crowded out other insurers in the the state that don't automatically accept any applicant even if that person is in the middle of very expensive treatment. My alumni insurance is illegal in NJ.
Anyway, today we went to the dentist where my son was to have a filing. He came out with a cap on a back tooth. I was suspicious. I had read an undercover review of dental offices who over-diagnose problems so they can bill at the higher level. And it is an odd office with all these signs about various rules about where you can sit, and who can sit in the waiting room, etc. It's very controling. From the looks of the other clients, they are on the state insurance too.
Another time I used the county health facility to get an immunization for my son. It was a nightmare. Not only did it take about 2.5 hours, but they herded large groups of us from room to room, and had us all stand up at the same time, and move enmass to the next room, then snake along several corridors until we were next in line. It had to have been a firecode violation to have so many of standing in the hallways.
When I went for a free breast exam, they scheduled 20 people at 9am, and 20 more at 1pm. I finally had to leave, but I asked them why they had such a bizarre way of scheduling. The girl said because so many people don't show up. I said maybe they would show up if they didn't have to wait for hours and hours. Morons.
Good luck America.
174 | Optimizer Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:23:16am |
re: #32 Iron Fist
This strikes me as having been an answer in search of a question. By which I mean that the so-called "researchers" had a position that they wanted to put forward (i.e. being attractive hurt Palin), so they went looking to create the data that supported their conclusions. One minor flaw in this thesis is that Barrack Obama is an attractive man. If Palin's looks hurt her, what about the Messiah's looks?
What the "researchers" meant to say is that Palin is a poopyhead, and that if she'd been elected they would have wet the bed, screamed for their mommy, and sucked their thumb for four years. These "researchers" are "scientists" in the same way a river carp is a koi.
Good point. What the election showed, in part, was that the country doesn't have as much of a racial problem as it does a problem with sexism. Just look at how the media treated Hillary (who I am no fan of). If a woman cries, she's weak. If she doesn't, she's a heartless bitch.
As far as her "grasp of the issues" I think it's actually fair to say that Palin had not really paid much attention to national/ issues, and was completely caught by surprise when she was suddenly throw into a national campaign - it showed at times.
That being said, her accomplishments - which exceeding that of Obama's (which isn't hard to do) were largely ignored. My favorite was that she did more for the cause of energy independence that all of Congress - she got the ball rolling on a pipeline through Canada. The project had festered for decades, but she got it going - including international negotiations (with Canada) in her first term. My second favorite was that she had indisputably dealt harshly with corruption in politics, while the Lightworker only talked about it (and it's becoming clear that it was all talk).
It's amazing how many people claimed to be mortally fearful of Palin as just a VP, while being completely unconcerned about Obama having the same weaknesses (and more). My sister even picked on her having gone to college on a beauty pageant scholarship. So while at the same time she was lamenting how women are discriminated against in politics and elsewhere, she was guilty of the same.
Oh, and let's not forget about the new Senator from New York. She's also young, attractive, and has an infant child. I'm still waiting to hear about the news stories condemning her for being a "bad mother" for taking that big-deal federal job, or for how she's a dimwit. Oh - that's right - she's got that "D" thing going on, so the rules are different for her. So there's that going on too - the media bias.
175 | BignJames Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:23:22am |
I'm sure the campaign staff's incompetence had nothing to do with the loss.
176 | Ford_Prefect Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:23:35am |
re: #155 NJDhockeyfan
Anyone see Rosanne's latest?
Dude, I just ate lunch and you go and link to Rosanne? Not nice. /
177 | LGoPs Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:23:38am |
“It wasn’t her appearance per se” that soured people on Palin, Heflick said in an interview. “It was the effect her appearance had on their perception of her competence and humanity. Those variables made people less likely to vote for her.” (Not surprisingly, the participants’ feelings about Jolie did not influence their political opinions, whether they focused on her looks or personality.)
This sums up how vapid, shallow and empty we've become as a society. And people like this vote? Heaven help us.
We need a fucking voting competency test. You need to be able to demostrate that you have at least 2 brain cells in your head that can occasionally collide and produce a thought.
178 | Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:24:14am |
re: #161 buzzsawmonkey
Actually, by her own account, Roseanne Barr announced publicly she had been diagnosed with multiple personality disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, depression and agoraphobia. She's pathetic & not worth quoting let alone getting upset over.
179 | funky chicken Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:24:49am |
re: #11 Honorary Yooper
And the really strange thing ... Obama isn't good looking. Palin is. I'm a straight female, too.
Obama is simply not a handsome man.
180 | samsgran1948 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:25:36am |
re: #28 Amer-I-Can
I guess if you look at "Liberal Chicks", you could see how beauty and brains don't go together very well on the left.
That was pretty close to my first thought. Compare Nancy, Hillary, the Code Pinkers and the Berkely females to Palin and you can see exactly why the left went ballistic.
181 | Killgore Trout Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:25:39am |
re: #164 Iron Fist
Nodisrespect, but you aren't going to like any Christian, no matter what they espouse. If they were to go far enough afield for you to support them, then they would no longer be Christian.
I liked Rudy (Catholic). Mitt (Mormon) wasn't too bad. I think Kennedy (Catholic) was a good president. As was Reagan (Presbyterian).
182 | BignJames Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:25:40am |
re: #178 Kenneth
Actually, by her own account, Roseanne Barr announced publicly she had been diagnosed with multiple personality disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, depression and agoraphobia. She's pathetic & not worth quoting let alone getting upset over.
And every one of them sucks.
183 | MandyManners Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:26:08am |
re: #173 DistantThunder
"Who can sit in the waiting room"? What's that all about?
184 | funky chicken Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:26:54am |
re: #173 DistantThunder
WOW we lived in Jersey several years ago and the health care was excellent, along with the food.
wow...
185 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:26:56am |
Stock market down pass -200. Who in the government spoke today?
187 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:27:12am |
re: #173 DistantThunder
I presume you are talking about a crown on a baby tooth? I also assume it is a very large dental office? Still they should have talked to you before they proceeded. We always do, but most of the time the parent is right there bullshitting with us while we treat their kids.
188 | HDrepub Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:27:17am |
re: #97 turn
Peggy Noonan is a turncoat. I agree appearances weigh heavy in the leftie decision making process. After all, the NYT had a front page story today about how O is already beginning to gray.
Scientists are beginning to gather clues that stress can hasten the graying process, but there is no scientific evidence demonstrating a cause-and-effect relationship.
189 | Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:27:44am |
re: #173 DistantThunder
Welcome to DMV healthcare.
Sorry, you have the wrong forms. You'll just have to fill out the correct ones and go back to the end of the line. And clean up that blood you're dripping everywhere!
190 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:27:47am |
re: #185 Walter L. Newton
Stock market down pass -200. Who in the government spoke today?
Treasury Sec. And also some guy named Obama
191 | Ford_Prefect Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:27:53am |
re: #185 Walter L. Newton
Stock market down pass -200. Who in the government spoke today?
They're politicians, who didn't speak?
192 | Dianna Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:28:34am |
re: #185 Walter L. Newton
Stock market down pass -200. Who in the government spoke today?
Health care conference today. It's enough to make a stock trader jump out a window.
193 | Leonidas Hoplite Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:28:42am |
re: #185 Walter L. Newton
Stock market down pass -200. Who in the government spoke today?
Market has been weak all day...GM a big driver.
Is this now a pun thread?
195 | Gearhead Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:29:01am |
Every time that man opens his mouth, my retirement gets pushed back another five years.
196 | Optimizer Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:29:09am |
Oh, I forgot.
1) Let's remember that choosing Palin brought McCain's polling numbers up even with Obama - so she helped his campaign. Those numbers tanked at the exact same time as the financial system imploded. So McCain didn't lose because of Palin - she was an asset.
2) Oh, and I'm sure we all remember that Palin seemed to have a pretty good grasp of how many states there are. So there was that media bias too. Obama, and the gaffe machine he ran, could do no wrong, as far as the media was concerned. Palin, in contrast, was held responsible for dippy things said by Tina Fey, for cryin' out loud!
197 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:29:31am |
People are already panicking here in the NY/NJ metropolitan area about A-Rod being out for a long time. I say good riddance.
198 | funky chicken Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:29:44am |
re: #174 Optimizer
Good point. What the election showed, in part, was that the country doesn't have as much of a racial problem as it does a problem with sexism. Just look at how the media treated Hillary (who I am no fan of). If a woman cries, she's weak. If she doesn't, she's a heartless bitch.
As far as her "grasp of the issues" I think it's actually fair to say that Palin had not really paid much attention to national/ issues, and was completely caught by surprise when she was suddenly throw into a national campaign - it showed at times.
That being said, her accomplishments - which exceeding that of Obama's (which isn't hard to do) were largely ignored. My favorite was that she did more for the cause of energy independence that all of Congress - she got the ball rolling on a pipeline through Canada. The project had festered for decades, but she got it going - including international negotiations (with Canada) in her first term. My second favorite was that she had indisputably dealt harshly with corruption in politics, while the Lightworker only talked about it (and it's becoming clear that it was all talk).
It's amazing how many people claimed to be mortally fearful of Palin as just a VP, while being completely unconcerned about Obama having the same weaknesses (and more). My sister even picked on her having gone to college on a beauty pageant scholarship. So while at the same time she was lamenting how women are discriminated against in politics and elsewhere, she was guilty of the same.
Oh, and let's not forget about the new Senator from New York. She's also young, attractive, and has an infant child. I'm still waiting to hear about the news stories condemning her for being a "bad mother" for taking that big-deal federal job, or for how she's a dimwit. Oh - that's right - she's got that "D" thing going on, so the rules are different for her. So there's that going on too - the media bias.
I wish I could give you 1000 updings....
199 | FloridaAnole Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:30:07am |
Well, her looks hurt her with certain female "conservatives" like Kathleen Parker, leading them to scramble around to find more "respectable" reasons to dump all overf her.
200 | Russkilitlover Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:30:21am |
re: #185 Walter L. Newton
Stock market down pass -200. Who in the government spoke today?
Barry's apparently talking healthcare right about now.....
Also China annuonced that they will NOT be implementing another stimulus at this time - rumor of that sparked our bounce yesterday. Sad that China new is driving our stock market to this extent.
201 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:30:30am |
re: #195 Gearhead
Every time that man opens his mouth, my retirement gets pushed back another five years.
Shit your lucky, they just reposed my burial plot?
/
202 | DistantThunder Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:30:38am |
re: #183 MandyManners
"Who can sit in the waiting room"? What's that all about?
They had me sign a form that said it was mandatory that I accompany my child in the exam room. So I left my 13 year old and 11 year old in the waiting room. Then they told me that they had a rule that I had to stay with the 13 year old and 11 year old, who were both sitting quietly watching a movie. Another sign on the door at the reception area said: You must wait to be escorted back to an exam room. I thought: What's been going on here that they've had to make signs and rules about these things - some of which contradict each other.
203 | ladycatnip Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:31:02am |
I don't believe a thing the media says - if she were a democrat and had been on Obama's ticket the media would have been salivating and falling all over themselves because she's so pretty. The liberals are pretty bereft of good looking women - leftist women can be summed up by Bella Abzug and Helen Thomas.
204 | Colonel Panik Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:31:21am |
Ugly wimmins is always jealous of teh hawt.
re: #96 subsailor68
Okay, gotta ask: where the heck are you finding 30-06 at .40 a round? That's a great price - if what they're going for around here is any example (almost $1.00).
That Greek .30-06 is what the Civilian Marksmanship Program is selling, last I heard. Supposed to be pretty good, despite the age. They probably kept it in a cool cellar with the feta.
205 | Leonidas Hoplite Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:31:39am |
re: #202 DistantThunder
They had me sign a form that said it was mandatory that I accompany my child in the exam room. So I left my 13 year old and 11 year old in the waiting room. Then they told me that they had a rule that I had to stay with the 13 year old and 11 year old, who were both sitting quietly watching a movie. Another sign on the door at the reception area said: You must wait to be escorted back to an exam room. I thought: What's been going on here that they've had to make signs and rules about these things - some of which contradict each other.
Not even Orwell could make that up...
206 | kynna Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:31:46am |
re: #196 Optimizer
Keep 'em comin'! ;D
Another thing -- Palin was the only one in the GOP who had the balls (yes, balls) to say Obama's a socialist and his associates are criminals. Then she was hung out to dry. :p
207 | realwest Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:32:01am |
re: #136 Wendya
"There are plenty of shallow, self absorbed twits on the right as well."
Boy ain't that the truth. If someone could look at this past election dispassionately - and ignore Obama's stupendous amount of money and having the MSM in his back pocket - if voters really THOUGHT about who was better suited to GOVERN the US, there's just no way they don't pick McCain/Palin, cause the other side's experience is all in foreign affairs and THAT comes because Joe Biden sat his ass in a senate subcommittee seat.
This is all bullshit about Palin - she was qualified to be mayor of a small town, she was qualified to be Governor of a State all because she tended to look out for her constitutents. Period. McCain, despite my differences with him on a bunch of things was at least clearly in Love with America and Americans - his constituency.
I don't even think the Jury's out on Obama, I don't think by anything he's said or done that he loves America or is necessarily looking out for OUR best interests, just his own.
208 | Leonidas Hoplite Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:32:24am |
re: #203 ladycatnip
I don't believe a thing the media says - if she were a democrat and had been on Obama's ticket the media would have been salivating and falling all over themselves because she's so pretty. The liberals are pretty bereft of good looking women - leftist women can be summed up by Bella Abzug and Helen Thomas.
Somebody pass the brain bleach, please.
209 | fish Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:32:37am |
re: #27 Kosh's Shadow
The Rocky and Bullwinkle movie was accurate.
(In it, Fearless Leader creates a TV network that reduces people's intelligence until they vote for him for President.)
And that is different from reality how?
We don't have Moose and Squirell to save us...
210 | vagabond trader Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:32:46am |
Healthcare conference brainstorming ideas on how to shame over 50's to sign a voluntary euthanasia card when they renew their drivers license.
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211 | DistantThunder Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:32:47am |
re: #187 Nevergiveup
I presume you are talking about a crown on a baby tooth? I also assume it is a very large dental office? Still they should have talked to you before they proceeded. We always do, but most of the time the parent is right there bullshitting with us while we treat their kids.
Yes, a big ugly metal thing. None of my other 6 children have ever had one, and that's not what I was told at the last appointment was going to happen.
212 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:32:53am |
Sigh. More good news:
Mortgage defaults, foreclosures spreading
From the first paragraph:
A stunning 48 percent of the nation's homeowners who have a subprime, adjustable-rate mortgage are behind on their payments or in foreclosure, and that's not the worst of it, new data Thursday showed.
To be fair, it's spreading to fixed-rate holders as well, but it does seem to indicate that - barring a policy that just tells these people they don't have to pay at all - the "Making Home Affordable" program is just throwing more money at a problem that's not going to go away.
213 | Ward Cleaver Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:32:58am |
The moonbats might prefer somebody who looks like Barbara Mikulski (sorry if anybody was eating lunch!), but I rather have Sarah any day. Sarah has the brains and the beauty. Mikulski has neither.
214 | soxfan4life Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:33:07am |
re: #206 kynna
Keep 'em comin'! ;D
Another thing -- Palin was the only one in the GOP who had the balls (yes, balls) to say Obama's a socialist and his associates are criminals. Then she was hung out to dry. :p
Which makes it even more apparent that McCain was more concerned about being welcomed back by his fellow Senators than winning an election.
215 | MandyManners Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:33:09am |
re: #202 DistantThunder
They had me sign a form that said it was mandatory that I accompany my child in the exam room. So I left my 13 year old and 11 year old in the waiting room. Then they told me that they had a rule that I had to stay with the 13 year old and 11 year old, who were both sitting quietly watching a movie. Another sign on the door at the reception area said: You must wait to be escorted back to an exam room. I thought: What's been going on here that they've had to make signs and rules about these things - some of which contradict each other.
I bet that they've had some kids running wild in the waiting room.
216 | FloridaAnole Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:33:09am |
re: #165 Nevergiveup
Is marriage to middle class for them. Other commie bastards were married weren't they? Lenin was married.
To Nadezhda Krupskaya, but he was fooling around with Inessa Armand until she contracted typhus in the Caucasus and died. (or that was the story, anyhow.)
217 | anotherindyfilmguy Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:33:21am |
The only thing that "hurt" Palin in the eyes of the MSM, causing them to all go nuts and do their absolutely biased over the top hit pieces on her etc, was the "R" in her political affiliation...
The rest is just BS.
219 | DistantThunder Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:33:37am |
re: #203 ladycatnip
I don't believe a thing the media says - if she were a democrat and had been on Obama's ticket the media would have been salivating and falling all over themselves because she's so pretty. The liberals are pretty bereft of good looking women - leftist women can be summed up by Bella Abzug and Helen Thomas.
Don't forget the former secretary of state Madeline Albright. Now if anyone one needs a subsidy for female enhancement - it is democrat women.
220 | jcm Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:34:06am |
Palin's biggest deficit isn't her looks.
She scares the holy bejebbers out of the left.
She is completely self sufficient. She needs ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FROM GOVERNMENT and OWES NOTHING TO GOVERNMENT.
She can go out kill the moose, dress it and serve it. It's a metaphor.
The left depends on the interchange, they give, but it's really a buying the person. You get something, you owe you loyalty, and once you are bought you stay bought.
Palin demonstrates viscerally the sovereign individual the left hates the most.
222 | anotherindyfilmguy Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:34:16am |
re: #206 kynna
Keep 'em comin'! ;D
Another thing -- Palin was the only one in the GOP who had the balls (yes, balls) to say Obama's a socialist and his associates are criminals. Then she was hung out to dry. :p
And she is being proven right every single day now.
223 | Cygnus Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:34:39am |
re: #59 Iron Fist
Blow all balast tanks! Dive, dive, dive!
Yipe! There is no bottom. Not with the One in control...
We'll be reaching the Earth's outer mantle in another month or so.
224 | imtoast Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:34:57am |
Sarah is a lovely woman and a delight to listen to. That said, why is everyone saying bambi is attractive. He has weird large ears, a small head blue lips and a mole that looks like he used the back of his hand to wipe his nose and a booger stayed on his face. Denzel Washington, now he's attractive.
225 | Nevergiveup Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:34:57am |
re: #211 DistantThunder
Yes, a big ugly metal thing. None of my other 6 children have ever had one, and that's not what I was told at the last appointment was going to happen.
Well remember the tooth is only "temporary". It will fall out some day. But sometimes the necessary treatment does change when your doing something, but still they should have told you it was a possibility before they even started.
226 | Ward Cleaver Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:35:00am |
re: #209 fish
We don't have Moose and Squirell to save us...
You have to say that with the Boris Badenov accent.
227 | BatGuano Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:35:19am |
The lesson could be that Palin would have gotten more support from the MSM if she had a massive ass. Or she was a major threat to the democrat party for being a competent, accomplished, self-made woman who happens to be
conservative.
228 | subsailor68 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:35:29am |
re: #204 Colonel Panik
Ugly wimmins is always jealous of teh hawt.
That Greek .30-06 is what the Civilian Marksmanship Program is selling, last I heard. Supposed to be pretty good, despite the age. They probably kept it in a cool cellar with the feta.
Thanks for the link! I'll check it out.
Had to laugh at your last sentence. For some reason I flashed on:
"Hands in the air you dirty yella dog, or I'll fill ya full of cheese."
:-)
229 | Ward Cleaver Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:35:45am |
re: #223 Cygnus
We'll be reaching the Earth's outer mantle in another month or so.
And boring into the core.
230 | Fabio P.Barbieri Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:35:57am |
It's not just politics. Take a middle-aged journo stuck in a declining industry, on his third divorce (or her second), hair falling out, and with a drinks habit that costs them all the money that the alimony does not devour. Face him or her with this radiant creature, successful in her career, one husband, five children, looking a good ten years younger than her age, bright happy smile, and crowds of admirers. And tell me that the impulse to tear down and destroy will not take over. I have seen the same murderous and otherwise inexplicable attitude in the matter of British footballer David Beckham, whom the press has been trying to destroy for years for apparently no other reason than that he is handsome, good at his job, and has a rich and pretty wife and three nice children. Jealousy is a powerful impulse.
231 | kynna Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:37:06am |
re: #224 imtoast
Sarah is a lovely woman and a delight to listen to. That said, why is everyone saying bambi is attractive. He has weird large ears, a small head blue lips and a mole that looks like he used the back of his hand to wipe his nose and a booger stayed on his face. Denzel Washington, now he's attractive.
Thanks for a laugh. I needed that. Yes. Denzel Washington is an example of attractive. 0? Not so much.
232 | LGoPs Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:37:30am |
re: #152 Kenneth
The group's alleged kingpin Amjad Mustafa Hamed, the one who pleaded guilty to trying to sell shoulder fired missiles, lived in Springfield.
It's all a misunderstanding. Hamed was leading an ROP religious meeting and they were talking about their missals........
233 | HDrepub Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:37:56am |
re: #214 soxfan4life
re: #206 kynna
Keep 'em comin'! ;D
Another thing -- Palin was the only one in the GOP who had the balls (yes, balls) to say Obama's a socialist and his associates are criminals. Then she was hung out to dry. :p
Which makes it even more apparent that McCain was more concerned about being welcomed back by his fellow Senators than winning an election.
I for one am sorry I gave one dime to John McCain's campaign. He promised to fight for America until his last breath, but he did not deliver during the campaign. Too many Obama things were off limits, when you could bet the farm the Donks wouldn't have left associations alone if the roles were reverse. I didn't care much for McCain before, and care even less for him now.
234 | realwest Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:38:26am |
Well y'all I gotta go now. I hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
235 | DistantThunder Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:38:51am |
re: #224 imtoast
Sarah is a lovely woman and a delight to listen to. That said, why is everyone saying bambi is attractive. He has weird large ears, a small head blue lips and a mole that looks like he used the back of his hand to wipe his nose and a booger stayed on his face. Denzel Washington, now he's attractive.
I find him repulsive, speaking as a woman. Scrawny, and very effeminate - a huge turn off. But the worst is a mouth that spews liberalism. [shudder]
236 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:39:12am |
This site has rough language for all you lizards that need to watch that. You should hear these women bash Sarah. Take yer pick, there's only 267 links on her...
237 | BigAl Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:40:25am |
I can't recall where I got this but I'm using it all over the place:
"America, you were expecting violins? What you got was Nero".
238 | Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:40:31am |
re: #42 Iron Fist
She should be childless, angry, and shrill. Like Susan Sarandon or Rosie O'Donnel.
I'm hoping for a remake of "Moby Dick", Rosie plays the whale...:)
/S
239 | bulwrk Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:41:12am |
re: #202 DistantThunder
Wait until we get nationalized health care you'll look back on that experience as the good old days.
240 | Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:41:31am |
re: #200 Russkilitlover
Barry's apparently talking healthcare right about now.....
Also China annuonced that they will NOT be implementing another stimulus at this time - rumor of that sparked our bounce yesterday. Sad that China new is driving our stock market to this extent.
Include a cartoon of a Chinese tank driving over the US economy, similar to the Tiannanenmen Square picture.
241 | turn Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:41:43am |
re: #188 HDrepub
Scientists are beginning to gather clues that stress can hasten the graying process, but there is no scientific evidence demonstrating a cause-and-effect relationship.
Thanks for that link. I'm usually under a lot of stress and my beard is gray but I don't have one gray hair up top, go figure.
242 | Zimriel Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:42:16am |
re: #139 Killgore Trout
Palin's look might have had an effect but what really hurt Palin was Palin. It wasn't unfair media coverage or some grand liberal conspiracy. I tried to like Palin until I heard her interview with Dobson. She is responsible for her own failure.
I think you're right. The subsequent Couric interview made her look even dumber. These failures opened the floodgates.
Attractive women cannot afford to look like airheads in this country. Not even for a second.
(I see that Colonel Panik left a flaming bag of downding on your porch again. What a coward.)
244 | RaiderDan Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:42:27am |
It's the old pretty woman thing. I think also a LOT of men saw "the sexy librarian" when they looked at her. It was always in the back of their minds.
#65 Cattt.
I saw Ms. Davis from "Varsity Blues" but thats just me!
245 | funky chicken Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:42:57am |
re: #212 subsailor68
Sigh. More good news:
Mortgage defaults, foreclosures spreading
From the first paragraph:
A stunning 48 percent of the nation's homeowners who have a subprime, adjustable-rate mortgage are behind on their payments or in foreclosure, and that's not the worst of it, new data Thursday showed.
To be fair, it's spreading to fixed-rate holders as well, but it does seem to indicate that - barring a policy that just tells these people they don't have to pay at all - the "Making Home Affordable" program is just throwing more money at a problem that's not going to go away.
sigh. upscale public housing. wanna bet there's some crime that came into these neighborhoods at the same time as these sub-prime borrowers? kinda like section-8.
246 | HDrepub Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:43:06am |
re: #224 imtoast
Sarah is a lovely woman and a delight to listen to. That said, why is everyone saying bambi is attractive. He has weird large ears, a small head blue lips and a mole that looks like he used the back of his hand to wipe his nose and a booger stayed on his face. Denzel Washington, now he's attractive.
Those blue lips seem indicative of cyanosis from a lifetime of puffing cigarettes.
247 | Zimriel Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:43:14am |
re: #164 Iron Fist
Nodisrespect, but you aren't going to like any Christian, no matter what they espouse. If they were to go far enough afield for you to support them, then they would no longer be Christian.
Killgore Trout said nothing about Christianity. You (and your updingers) owe him an apology.
248 | Kosh's Shadow Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:43:15am |
re: #210 vagabond trader
Healthcare conference brainstorming ideas on how to shame over 50's to sign a voluntary euthanasia card when they renew their drivers license.
////
The government is opening a new school for Geriatric Medicine, headed by a Dr. Kervorkian.
250 | formercorpsman Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:43:30am |
re: #139 Killgore Trout
Pure double standard. Yes, she could have performed better in the interview, but if we shall be intellectually honest, any candidate out there has given bad interviews.
To simply brush off the media is ridiculous. From the moment her name was announced, she became a target for political assassination by the media. Hell, she even threw it back in their face during a subsequent interview regarding the double standard, and the guy laughed it off, confirming it as truth.
Although I am in Pennsylvania, and by the time my state gets to vote, it usually does not matter, you actually helped me make my mind up, and vote for Rudy despite my social issues with him.
To have her shoulder all the blame from one interview, and allow him to skate given his total inclusion of the "oh's, um's, ah's" squared when attempting public speech minus an available teleprompter can't hold water. I find his eloquence suspect at best. He fucked up plenty of times if that is the voter threshold we are crossing.
Seriously.
251 | doppelganglander Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:43:39am |
re: #173 DistantThunder
Unbelievable. You are living a preview of Obamacare.
252 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:43:40am |
re: #238 Dustyvet
I'm hoping for a remake of "Moby Dick", Rosie plays the whale...:)
/S
Dusty, why do you hate whales? :)
253 | DaddyG Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:43:42am |
re: #152 Kenneth Valid Virginia Drivers Liscenses
254 | BatGuano Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:44:45am |
re: #238 Dustyvet
I saw the original movie poster for Moby Dick. It said, "Gregory Peck in the Title Roll". It was distributed I just don't know to what extent.
255 | Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:45:11am |
re: #241 turn
Thanks for that link. I'm usually under a lot of stress and my beard is gray but I don't have one gray hair up top, go figure.
What Really Turns Hair Gray?
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
256 | Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:46:14am |
257 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:47:09am |
re: #230 Fabio P.Barbieri
I reread that - brilliant. In the link I found there was a lot of whining about how Sarah still thought she was the Prom Queen. We should be beyond this crap. A lot of women on that site could articulate it as the only reason they disliked her.
I don't care what you look like. Just do a good job.
258 | funky chicken Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:47:11am |
re: #139 Killgore Trout
Palin's look might have had an effect but what really hurt Palin was Palin. It wasn't unfair media coverage or some grand liberal conspiracy. I tried to like Palin until I heard her interview with Dobson. She is responsible for her own failure.
You watched her interview with James Dobson? Jeez, I didn't even know she had an interview with Dobson.
Again, McCain let the religiocons pressure him into a religiocon VP nominee. Of the possibilities, it probably came down to Palin, Jindal, or Pawlenty. My preference of the 3 was Pawlenty....
But I really wanted him to pick Rudy. I'm not a Romney fan, but there's no question he would have been far better choice. McCain could have sent Mitt back to handle Bush, Paulson, Pelosi, and Reid and continued campaigning. And Romney would have wiped the floor with Gibson, Couric, and Biden.
259 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:47:51am |
re: #256 Dustyvet
((Dustyvet))
You know I was trying to be silly right?
261 | Zimriel Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:50:47am |
re: #220 jcm
Palin's biggest deficit isn't her looks.
She scares the holy bejebbers out of the left.
She is completely self sufficient. She needs ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FROM GOVERNMENT and OWES NOTHING TO GOVERNMENT.
She can go out kill the moose, dress it and serve it. It's a metaphor.
The left depends on the interchange, they give, but it's really a buying the person. You get something, you owe you loyalty, and once you are bought you stay bought.
Palin demonstrates viscerally the sovereign individual the left hates the most.
I agree with this, but I think you and Killgore are talking about two different sets of anti-Palin voter.
You've explained why leftists would want to volunteer and get-out-the-vote against Palin. Killgore (and, citing other reasons, Charles) have explained why centrists would get worried about Palin, thus quietly showing up at the polls to vote against.
Palin's appearance and the visceral reaction it causes will differ between these two parties: the former act on pure tribal hatred, and the latter just roll their eyes at her TV appearances.
262 | Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:50:59am |
re: #259 Chicago Blonde
((Dustyvet))
You know I was trying to be silly right?
I know...((Chicago Blonde))....:)
264 | Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:52:06am |
265 | FrogMarch Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:53:35am |
The Republicans lost because the left own the media and the culture, the left did a better job vilifying the right, the left spent 8 years beating up on Bush, the left had a better ground game. Sarah Palin helped McCain energize the converted, but little else.
btw - I spoke with a very influential community business leader today in Boulder. I asked him what he thought of the run on the banks that occurred back in September before the election. He said that he was certain Soros was behind it and he too thought it was a planned event to help Obama.
266 | Zimriel Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:53:56am |
re: #258 funky chicken
You watched her interview with James Dobson? Jeez, I didn't even know she had an interview with Dobson.
267 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:54:04am |
re: #264 Dustyvet
You're not slow; I just woke up too early & dunno if my snark-o-meter is working right today.
Crashing stocks + not enough sleep = grumpy Blondie
268 | FloridaAnole Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:54:46am |
re: #235 DistantThunder
I find him repulsive, speaking as a woman. Scrawny, and very effeminate - a huge turn off. But the worst is a mouth that spews liberalism. [shudder]
Yeah, but he's got them beautiful purple lips!
269 | funky chicken Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:55:02am |
re: #261 Zimriel
add in Fabio's explanation of the forces that drive the press into a frenzy of trying to destroy someone, and I think you've got the answer wrapped up
270 | formercorpsman Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:55:09am |
re: #250 formercorpsman
Although this does not change my opinion of my post, I'll admit right now, Killgore, reading through your post, I saw Dobson as Gibson.
I did not see this interview, nonetheless, my opinion is largely the same.
271 | Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:55:45am |
re: #267 Chicago Blonde
You're not slow; I just woke up too early & dunno if my snark-o-meter is working right today.
Crashing stocks + not enough sleep = grumpy Blondie
Mighty Litter Kicker, would be pleased to drop over and build a nice road for you...:)
272 | Spare O'Lake Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:56:06am |
Sex appeal is the least of Sarah Palin's problems.
Her lack of experience and some of her over-the-top religious beliefs are much more problematic.
273 | BatGuano Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:56:16am |
re: #264 Dustyvet
I thought so. One of the things I've discovered in 6 weeks of posting is getting a subtle point across without vocal inflection or facial expression being operative. I've had to explain some of my posts.
274 | funky chicken Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:56:27am |
re: #266 Zimriel
Oh, um, thanks but no thanks. I donotlike Dobson.
275 | Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:56:39am |
Obama Gives PM Brown "Super Gift" Of 25 DVD's, Possibly Included In Set "Toy Story".
[Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]
276 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:56:51am |
re: #248 Kosh's Shadow
The government is opening a new school for
GeriatricMedicine, headed by a Dr. Kervorkian.
Courses include -
-Soylent Green 101
-Out of medicine? Just give 'em a Tic-Tac and tell 'em it may work!
-Equal vs. more equal: Determining who gets what, secretly
278 | Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:58:01am |
279 | funky chicken Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:59:24am |
Final point from me--doesn't this poll actually help Palin? It's saying that the American voters are shallow and pathetic, right? The more she and her supporters can point to data like this, the better case she has that her opponents are irrational, right?
281 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:01:58am |
re: #272 Spare O'Lake
Honestly? I don't know how she would have done. Based on what I hear about her slashing the pork in the Alaskan budget she'd make a good budget czar. What bugged me is any complaint about her seemed to devolve into "and she thinks she's so hawwwwt, too!" You could look like freaking Adriana Lima or Rodney Dangerfield and if you protect my country and wallet, I wouldn't care one way or the other.
282 | ladycatnip Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:03:09am |
#250 formercorpsman
Pure double standard. Yes, she could have performed better in the interview, but if we shall be intellectually honest, any candidate out there has given bad interviews...To have her shoulder all the blame from one interview, and allow him to skate given his total inclusion of the "oh's, um's, ah's" squared when attempting public speech minus an available teleprompter can't hold water. I find his eloquence suspect at best...
Absolutely agree with you. The O's interviews either seemed completely staged with questions given beforehand, or the um's and uh's. Also escaping any media notice at all were his constant gaffes - "visited 58 states with one more to go", etc... not one peep from the media. Biden's lack of historical knowledge was sickening, again with no media attention.
Should Sarah have been better prepared by McCain's handlers? Yes. They threw her out too soon to the wolves; should've made the conservative talk radio route before going to Couric and Gibson.
283 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:05:04am |
re: #273 BatGuano
I'm still learning that art. LOLs and :)'s and :('s don't always cut it, do they?
284 | Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:05:38am |
Feds investigate military info found in Minneapolis Apartment
[Link: kstp.com...]
285 | BatGuano Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:08:16am |
re: #272 Spare O'Lake
Lack of experience? She has more experience than our current President. I am not aware of her over-the-top religious beliefs.
286 | ladycatnip Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:08:44am |
#272 Spare O'Lake
Sex appeal is the least of Sarah Palin's problems.
Her lack of experience and some of her over-the-top religious beliefs are much more problematic.
What over-the-top religious beliefs? She never made them an issue, never threatened to put ID into the school curricula, and never tried to make her private beliefs part of Alaska. It's been made a distraction by the media, and we all know how much we can trust the media.
Did they send thirty people to Chicago to dig up stuff on Obama, or go to Biden's hometown with muckrakers?
Her lack of experience sure didn't stop her from turning Alaska around.
287 | FloridaAnole Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:09:28am |
re: #272 Spare O'Lake
Sex appeal is the least of Sarah Palin's problems.
Her lack of experience and some of her over-the-top religious beliefs are much more problematic.
The religious beliefs many attribute to Sarah Palin are largely the fabrications of left-wing propagandists, which unfortunately were eagerly snarfed up by some soreheads on the right who were angry that somebody else didn't get the VP selection. Same with the non-existent "book banning". True, she is pro-choice, but I distinctly remember a press conference when she was asked about her stance on abortion, and she affirmed she was against it, but she was in favor of contraception. This was then falsely reported in the media (and by some bloggers) that she was against contraception.
Personally, (and I haven't set foot in a church for 30 years except for weddings and funerals,) I don't find Sarah's evangelical beliefs half as dismaying or kooky as the Global Warming cult, or the Rev. Wright cult.
In summary, about 96.4% of the stuff that's been written or said about Sarah is pure fecal matter.
288 | Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:09:51am |
re: #286 ladycatnip
#272 Spare O'Lake
What over-the-top religious beliefs? She never made them an issue, never threatened to put ID into the school curricula, and never tried to make her private beliefs part of Alaska. It's been made a distraction by the media, and we all know how much we can trust the media.
Did they send thirty people to Chicago to dig up stuff on Obama, or go to Biden's hometown with muckrakers?
Her lack of experience sure didn't stop her from turning Alaska around.
And she can field dress a Moose...:)
289 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:11:19am |
re: #286 ladycatnip
Did they send thirty people to Chicago to dig up stuff on Obama, or go to Biden's hometown with muckrakers?
No, they were too busy whining about Palin and Joe the Plumber's "real" first name.
290 | BatGuano Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:12:36am |
re: #283 Chicago Blonde
Sometimes emoticons fail in their intended assignments.
291 | Olderthandirt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:13:02am |
Ah come on! This is a really sneaky way to promote Hillary for 2016!
292 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:15:08am |
re: #290 BatGuano
I know. Sometimes my replies are slower because I'm thinking about what I want to say.
For one thing, I'm sure Charles has enough on his plate and I don't need to supply more...
293 | Kenneth Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:16:06am |
294 | Roses Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:17:04am |
A woman has to be three times as good to get one third the votes.
That's in a normal race. This one, with the media besotted with Obama, the ratio is even worse -and at that she STILL almost brought McCain to the point of winning. Without her, he would have gotten 10% of the vote. And I love McCain, but the odds were astronomical once the media made their choice.
295 | debutaunt Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:17:26am |
re: #224 imtoast
Sarah is a lovely woman and a delight to listen to. That said, why is everyone saying bambi is attractive. He has weird large ears, a small head blue lips and a mole that looks like he used the back of his hand to wipe his nose and a booger stayed on his face. Denzel Washington, now he's attractive.
0's speaking cadence drives me nuts.
296 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:19:29am |
re: #287 FloridaAnole
You know, I just remembered the whole thing about her selling the plane on eBay. She listed it, and when it didn't go that way she sold it to a private party after the fact. But "I put it on eBay" is a funnier punch line. Either way she sold it.
When Campbell Brown discovered that it didn't SELL on eBay I thought she was going to wet herself...
297 | BatGuano Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:22:52am |
re: #292 Chicago Blonde
I know what you mean. Sometimes I've been in such a hurry to post, I didn't think it through clearly. Just in the last hour I spent so much time composing a post its points were already covered by others. No big deal: At least I didn't have to retract.
298 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:24:22am |
re: #297 BatGuano
I know what you mean. Sometimes I've been in such a hurry to post, I didn't think it through clearly. Just in the last hour I spent so much time composing a post its points were already covered by others. No big deal: At least I didn't have to retract.
That's my big thing - I want to avoid something I have to retract.
299 | Conservative in Liberal Hands Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:26:26am |
They took a group of 133 undergraduates...
Someone give me a break!
300 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:27:23am |
I'm debating if I'm strong enough to think about the Yo-Yo Watch today. *sigh*
301 | BatGuano Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:28:57am |
re: #298 Chicago Blonde
Yuppers. It's always best to think it through and post late.
302 | BatGuano Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:31:20am |
re: #300 Chicago Blonde
This thread is dead, I'm goin' to bed; go ahead. :)
303 | Chicago Blonde Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:35:26am |
re: #302 BatGuano
*snort* To the Stock Market posts I'm led...
304 | formercorpsman Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:35:54am |
re: #282 ladycatnip
Well, to be fair, I did see Killgore's reference to Dobson as Gibson, and fashioned my response as such.
Notwithstanding, yes, she could have been better prepared in more than one interview. I think public communications is great attribute, but certainly does not portend a good or bad leader.
I do not need anymore evidence the media is not just an innocent bystander in our legislative process. I'm sure if given 2 hours, we could cite at least 100 instances, where media bias in the arena of politics is totally blatant. I don't require 101 instances to shore up my opinion.
Therefore, I see no benefit in acting as if our political landscape is being played on level ground.
I have a little question for you.
Prior to the 2006 mid-term elections, who was the Republican Congressman involved in the Page scandal?
Don't cheat, and look it up. If you don't know, fine.
306 | Gecko Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:39:09am |
Ridiculousness coming from mostly Santa Barbara lefty writers. They are threatened by her life force. Love her looks, principles, and competence. McCain was the one who lost, and Sarah paired with another candidate, could win and the left knows it so they continue to vilify her.
308 | Dustyvet Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:40:59am |
309 | Silvergirl Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:43:35am |
re: #32 Iron Fist
This strikes me as having been an answer in search of a question. By which I mean that the so-called "researchers" had a position that they wanted to put forward (i.e. being attractive hurt Palin), so they went looking to create the data that supported their conclusions. One minor flaw in this thesis is that Barrack Obama is an attractive man. If Palin's looks hurt her, what about the Messiah's looks?
What the "researchers" meant to say is that Palin is a poopyhead, and that if she'd been elected they would have wet the bed, screamed for their mommy, and sucked their thumb for four years. These "researchers" are "scientists" in the same way a river carp is a koi.
After I reply, I'm going back to upding your comment, especially for the opening lines. The part about the Obama's attractiveness doesn't work because of the way they set up the "study."
"Building upon 1980s research suggesting attractive women in high-status jobs are perceived as less competent"
So much for 80s research. It's all a load of crap, but the article is clear that it's about women.
311 | formercorpsman Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:46:54am |
313 | Dr. Shalit Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:47:53am |
re: #53 bulwrk
I didn't need a university study to tell me strong attractive white women that can handle a firearm scare the crap out of democrats.
bulwrk - Same goes for Jihadis - one reason Israel uses them as Border Guards along with the men.
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314 | Silvergirl Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:49:03am |
re: #306 Gecko
Ridiculousness coming from mostly Santa Barbara lefty writers. They are threatened by her life force. Love her looks, principles, and competence. McCain was the one who lost, and Sarah paired with another candidate, could win and the left knows it so they continue to vilify her.
You got it! They don't ever want to be taken by surprise again. They were all ready with the boiling oil for Romney or any of the likely McCain VP choices, and Palin's stunning entrance had their heads spinning until they settled down and made their battle plans.
315 | BatGuano Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:49:10am |
re: #311 formercorpsman
You went to the well once often. I don't know.
318 | tedzilla99 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:53:29am |
Yet we had these same democrat reporters go on and on about how in shape and hot PBO is. So, just another misdirection attempt, of course.
319 | formercorpsman Thu, Mar 5, 2009 11:53:47am |
re: #316 BatGuano
Hence, the media worked with Democrat machine to put that into the 24 hours news cycle ahead of the election.
For an interesting exercise, see who got his seat, and what became of it.
321 | formercorpsman Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:02:43pm |
re: #320 BatGuano
Just an example of what I think is a blatant double standard.
322 | Sunlight Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:08:45pm |
These things are such a bunch of crap. The studies and GQ both. Given that the study was mostly women, I'd say it is sour grapes on their part. As average women grow older, it becomes more and more rare that they can wear those straight skirt suits with any dignity. Therefore, I see her wardrobe as a visible testament to her self discipline. A plus. An indicator of competence. Her religious beliefs cause me some heartburn, but if she keeps lengthening her record of keeping them separate from government (and doesn't drift into any VB type eddy), then I'm ok with even that. These things are an orchestrated effort to get Sarah Palin out of the running on ridiculous grounds.
323 | Caboose Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:36:08pm |
re: #62 Walter L. Newton
Why can't we look at a candidate for her/his abilities and STOP pushing looks and how expensive a person can dress up.
It's about as shallow as it comes. What the hell is wrong with us?
I call it the "People Magazine-ing of America". (Feel free to insert whatever trashy-gossip rag like US in place of People). We let these junk magazines make us more concerned about what is happening to Bennifer or Angelina or (insert bimbo-of-the-moment here) or any of the other countless, attractive oxygen thieves that populate the pages of those birdcage liners than to real issues like Islamofascism or Russia Resurgent or that we now have the most clueless administration ever in charge of the US (when i say "we" I am speaking in a general sense, obviously the present company is excluded). And way too many people form a political opinion based on what John Stewart said last night on a f**king COMEDY program (which by all rights should have been identified as another part of the Democratic propaganda machine). And I also think that Tina Fey should have her pretty little @ss kicked. Hard. Regularly. She helped make the 0bamination a reality.
324 | code red 21 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:03:07pm |
All of the women I know, including myself, didn't vote for her because of her looks we liked her stance on the issues. But my husband and male relatives had the hots for her. I'm sure she sent a tingle up allot of legs.
325 | Gecko Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:11:17pm |
re: #314 Silvergirl
You got it! They don't ever want to be taken by surprise again. They were all ready with the boiling oil for Romney or any of the likely McCain VP choices, and Palin's stunning entrance had their heads spinning until they settled down and made their battle plans.
You betcha, Silvergirl, well said!
326 | Spare O'Lake Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:26:32pm |
re: #281 Chicago Blonde
re: #285 BatGuano
re: #286 ladycatnip
re: #287 FloridaAnole
Religious beliefs:
YEC; ID.
She did not make these into election issues but that does not mean that others did not.
Lack of experience:
"All of 'em"; Bush Doctrine; National Guard; On a clear day I can see Russia.
She had more experience than Obama, but he was a much better bullshitter than she.
Also, I believe she was hurt by the image of her daughter's teen pregnancy and apparent shotgun wedding plans.
Whether her treatment was fair or not is not the point.
327 | ladycatnip Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:43:13pm |
#326
No one is talking about being fair here. The facts are the facts, and when the media goes after someone to smear them, it has a powerful effect.
Let's talk about Obama's religion then. He was a devout follower of the Rev. Wright, and we've all seen his hateful, vicious, racist diatribes against our country coming from his own mouth. Do you not think O was involved with an over-the-top church? C'mon, his church is out there.
As to her lack of experience - the Bush doctrine is a ridiculous example. Biden couldn't even get our own history correct with who was prez in WWII and talking about TV when there was none. She wasn't running on Bush's "doctrine" so why this stupid question. And she didn't say she saw Russia from her window - Tina Fey did on SNL. And of course the gullible public embraces SNL as the arbiter of truth.
328 | ladycatnip Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:52:30pm |
#326
Also, I believe she was hurt by the image of her daughter's teen pregnancy and apparent shotgun wedding plans.
P.S. You're wrong about this one too. The evangelicals embraced her without one lick of condemnation, which surprised the libs and the media. Christians have always been painted by them as self-righteous goons and here everyone is extending their arms to her and her daughter. Shocking. Shows how little the left and the media know about Christianity.
The only shrill ones were the left - how dare she be a working mom, this is what happens when the mom steps out of the kitchen, blah, blah, blah. Self-righteous hypocrites all.
329 | Roses Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:24:12pm |
re: #328 ladycatnip
#326
...The only shrill ones were the left - how dare she be a working mom, this is what happens when the mom steps out of the kitchen, blah, blah, blah. Self-righteous hypocrites all.
Interestingly enough, some of the media babes who smeared her most were also working Moms, as Michelle Malkin pointed out here - [Link: michellemalkin.com...] ... CNN’s Soledad O’Brien’s been working overtime covering the presidential campaign season, anchoring daily coverage, nighttime conventions, and producing documentaries that require large chunks of time away from home and from her four children... How about Katie Couric? Her husband died at 42 when her daughters were 6 and 2 years old. With two young children devastated by the loss of a father, she opted not to quit journalism. ...Campbell Brown flew to Las Vegas last year to moderate a political debate while 8 ½ months’ pregnant. ....(Meredith) Viera replaced Couric on the Today Show. She has three children at home and a husband who has battled multiple sclerosis and two bouts with colon cancer. By the (Obama Campaign National Finance Committee member Howard) Gutman standard, Viera should have left the business years ago to tend to her family in need...
Palin's only sin is that she is Republican.
330 | UncleRancher Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:08:24pm |
When the democrats selected John McCain as their republican candidate they thought they had it won going away. Then when Sarah Palin showed up on the scene it was not at all certain. What was the question? Her looks might have hurt her? BS. That's just one of the many ugly smears. The continuing attacks send a clear message that the left is skeered to death of Sarah.
331 | cincinnati_kid37 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:15:18pm |
No doubt about it. Democrats like Ugly Mofos... Reid, Pelosi, Kucinich, Janet Reno, Hilrod, Helen Thomas, Madeline notsobright, - or otherwise deranged, cry babies, criminals or any combination thereof.
Being commercially attractive and having common sense and talent makes them wanna puke. There are a myriad of reasons for this.
332 | Throbert McGee Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:25:48pm |
re: #216 FloridaAnole
[Lenin was married to] Nadezhda Krupskaya, but he was fooling around with Inessa Armand
In most of the pictures I've seen, Nadezhda looked like one of the Monty Python guys in drag -- who can blame Lenin for being restless?
333 | LAobserver Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:36:34pm |
Scientific "proof" Palin is attractive:
Palin a 9.5, scientifically speaking
334 | Joan Not of Arc Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:39:43pm |
Too sexy for public office? Yeah, I get that all the time.
But seriously, the popular press just has to objectify and harrass Sarah Palin. They judge everyone- including the pet Obama family- by some shallow standard. Are they truly terrified that Governor Palin might just get into office once everyone tires of "the Chosen One"?
I hope she rocks her knee-high boots come next election and kicks some @$$. I'm tired of this nonsense!
335 | wiffersnapper Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:47:50pm |
yum identity politics. hot ladies must be the dumbest people in the room.
/sarc
336 | kynna Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:53:17pm |
re: #304 formercorpsman
Well, to be fair, I did see Killgore's reference to Dobson as Gibson, and fashioned my response as such.
Notwithstanding, yes, she could have been better prepared in more than one interview. I think public communications is great attribute, but certainly does not portend a good or bad leader.
I do not need anymore evidence the media is not just an innocent bystander in our legislative process. I'm sure if given 2 hours, we could cite at least 100 instances, where media bias in the arena of politics is totally blatant. I don't require 101 instances to shore up my opinion.
Therefore, I see no benefit in acting as if our political landscape is being played on level ground.
I have a little question for you.
Prior to the 2006 mid-term elections, who was the Republican Congressman involved in the Page scandal?
Don't cheat, and look it up. If you don't know, fine.
First off -- you didn't ask me but -- Foley, right? I didn't look it up. ;D
One big problem with Palin's performance in interviews, IMO, is that she was learning about issues she's never had to deal with (and frankly, I would love to have seen 0's face if anyone asked him to expound on any issues a governor has to deal with), she was also being directed how to frame her answers. I blame her poor performance and bad interview schedule on the McCain team at least as much as I blame it on her "unreadiness". They tried to make her into something she isn't. Why? I don't know. Talk to her about the issues and then let her talk about them in her own way instead of giving her a bunch of boundaries and parameters. Remember how everyone said "let Sarah be Sarah"? Those interviews that made her look ditzy were very closely controlled by McCain's lousy team. And the scheduling was beyond idiotic.
But I'm finding that the "moderates" aren't really the least bit moderate. Just like "liberals" tend to be the least liberal people you'll ever see. These so-called 'centrists' have demands that are completely unreasonable and push over the line even into bigotry. And they're very quick to point their fingers at others.
I'm still looking for any evidence whatsoever that Sarah Palin is a political 'religio-con' who's shown any interest in making Alaska into a theocratic state. But then, to many so-called conservatives/centrists/moderates the accusation is proof of the crime. Sounds like another group we know too well.
337 | Ceemack Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:01:42pm |
re: #75 Scorch
Speaking of firearms, ordered 500 rounds of 30-06 for 40 cents a round and 300 rounds of 22-250 for 80 cents a round. Ouch that small caliber hurt but love the muzzle velocity.
Time for a reloading press.
338 | bse5150 Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:34:21pm |
This article is a load of crap. Does anyone remember how McCain was drawing huge crowds before Palin arrived? I didn't think so - because no one cared about stupid McCain. I'd vote for Palin in a minute because she believes in the same things I do:
God
Guns
Strong Defense
American Oil
Less Taxes
Less Government
Less Abortion
339 | hous bin pharteen Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:28:38pm |
The gay guys hate her more since she looks good in jeans.
The L's hate her since she looks good in jeans and she looks better than "gasp" Hilary, one of there own in the closet politicians.
Hilary her self would hate her, but her great husband, the pervert, had little taste in real attractive women.
Even real men are confused when the press keep reporting how women think he his sooo sexy. Where do they find such females? At a NOW meeting.
I know good looking women. (dated Miss Nebraska at the pageant in Atlantic City, just as an example) Not a one found him appealing.
Olbermin may think he is sexy, but who cares what that dumb-ass thinks. (It may be the Dumbo ears)