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I got this 18th century map of the New World in the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul, Turkey, in 1994. Photographed with a Canon Powershot G10; click the picture for a larger version.
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 1:00:14pm |
I have read reviews that the G10 is not good in low light. Any thoughts?
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Sharmuta Thu, May 7, 2009 1:01:33pm |
I got this 18th century map of the New World in the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul
Not Constantinople.
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Racer X Thu, May 7, 2009 1:01:40pm |
I see no ice whatsoever. They had global warming back then?
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medaura18586 Thu, May 7, 2009 1:01:57pm |
Cool! I wonder whether Istanbul was much different in the mid nineties compared to 2003, when I visited. It seemed to be in flux when I was there.
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 7, 2009 1:02:52pm |
re: #3 Racer X
I see no ice whatsoever. They had global warming back then?
Sure did. Look at those coastlines.
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GrepSedAwk Thu, May 7, 2009 1:03:00pm |
When I was a little kid - Iran to Iraq, slipped on Greece and fell on Turkey.
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Bagua Thu, May 7, 2009 1:03:12pm |
So the Turks discovered America! Change the history books.
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 7, 2009 1:03:27pm |
re: #5 Killgore Trout
Dar ul harb!
Where do you think that compass rose is centered? Cabo San Lucas, maybe?
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 7, 2009 1:03:59pm |
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debutaunt Thu, May 7, 2009 1:04:12pm |
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:04:30pm |
My Turkish is a little rusty, but I believe the caption over Brazil reads, "come for the babes, stay for the feijoada".
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Crusader Rabbit Thu, May 7, 2009 1:04:43pm |
re: #8 Bagua
So the Turks discovered America! Change the history books.
The did, but not until the 18th century.
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Nevergiveup Thu, May 7, 2009 1:05:23pm |
The cabinet will be asked on Sunday to approve the appointment of Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman as the minister responsible for Israel's strategic dialogue with the US.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Yeah, he and Hilliary will get along so well? Fireworks at 10:00.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:05:39pm |
Man, Canada has sure grown since then!
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Honorary Yooper Thu, May 7, 2009 1:06:04pm |
Nice map, Charles. Don't have any in my collection that go back quite that far (wish I did). My earliest tend to be from the 1920s.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:06:12pm |
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Bagua Thu, May 7, 2009 1:06:45pm |
re: #14 Crusader Rabbit
The did, but not until the 18th century.
Be careful what you say, you know there is a law against insulting Turkishness!
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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researchok Thu, May 7, 2009 1:07:16pm |
Pretty impressive for 18th century cartography.
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Bagua Thu, May 7, 2009 1:07:50pm |
re: #16 Nevergiveup
The cabinet will be asked on Sunday to approve the appointment of Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman as the minister responsible for Israel's strategic dialogue with the US.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Yeah, he and Hilliary will get along so well? Fireworks at 10:00.
That should be fun to watch!
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 1:08:15pm |
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:08:35pm |
re: #10 OldLineTexan
Where do you think that compass rose is centered? Cabo San Lucas, maybe?
/
Those aren't compasses, they're representations of UFO overflights that were witnessed by Turkish mariners.
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Russkilitlover Thu, May 7, 2009 1:09:05pm |
Very cool. I love old maps. New maps, too.
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Thoughtful Thu, May 7, 2009 1:09:44pm |
Cool map.
Try this for photographing documents:
1) Ideally shoot in an all-black room.
2) Use large 3M polarizing filters over the light source -- two sources 45 degrees off to either side work well. Be sure the polarizers are aligned the same.
3) Use a polarizing filter on the camera as well.
This set up pretty nearly eliminates the bits of glare off the document folds.
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nikis-knight Thu, May 7, 2009 1:09:56pm |
Any reason Texas, Minnesota, Argentina and Brazil are labeled? Next terrorist plot? Masonic lodges? Tunnels of the Turkish mole-people?
/conspiracies 'r us!
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 1:11:07pm |
re: #24 Desert Dog
Captain Cook had better maps:
Before satellites, gps, etc....pretty impressive
/Thats nice, but have you seen Cap'n Crunch's?
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:11:53pm |
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 1:12:21pm |
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 7, 2009 1:12:24pm |
re: #28 nikis-knight
Any reason Texas, Minnesota, Argentina and Brazil are labeled? Next terrorist plot? Masonic lodges? Tunnels of the Turkish mole-people?
/conspiracies 'r us!
Beef
Beer
Babes
More babes
/Turkish sailors are a practical lot
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Nevergiveup Thu, May 7, 2009 1:12:41pm |
re: #23 Bagua
That should be fun to watch!
From a distance. Ah what's the difference anyway, Israel is going to get F...CKed no matter what with this administration.
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Bagua Thu, May 7, 2009 1:12:46pm |
I traslated the caption it reads:
Future location of Shawarma King franchises
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Shr_Nfr Thu, May 7, 2009 1:12:52pm |
re: #22 researchok
the maps out of Sir Walter Raleigh's "History of the World" from the early 1600s are quite impressive too. I think of the 3 or 4 copies I have, only one of them has all the maps. The others have had one or more maps "razored" out.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:13:44pm |
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Nevergiveup Thu, May 7, 2009 1:14:02pm |
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 7, 2009 1:14:48pm |
re: #38 Occasional Reader
FIFY
Well, if you're gonna get picky, we have babes in Texas, too.
And Minnesotans have fish. Some of the Turks may be watching their cholesterol.
/
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Russkilitlover Thu, May 7, 2009 1:14:54pm |
re: #29 Creeping Eruption
/Thats nice, but have you seen Cap'n Crunch's?
Looks like a nice place. Except for that smoking, oozing friggin' VOLCANO!
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Bagua Thu, May 7, 2009 1:15:08pm |
re: #34 Nevergiveup
From a distance. Ah what's the difference anyway, Israel is going to get F...CKed no matter what with this administration.
Perhaps, alternatively, Lieberman and Netanyahu may put up just enough fight to block much of what is attempted, Obama and Hillary will soon move on to greener pastures as the next election approaches.
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Nevergiveup Thu, May 7, 2009 1:16:12pm |
re: #42 Bagua
Perhaps, alternatively, Lieberman and Netanyahu may put up just enough fight to block much of what is attempted, Obama and Hillary will soon move on to greener pastures as the next election approaches.
Have you been drinking this afternoon? Probably a good idea.
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 1:16:36pm |
re: #41 Russkilitlover
Looks like a nice place. Except for that smoking, oozing friggin' VOLCANO!
Look out, Charles and LGF will be accused of engaging in Volcanophobia.
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Bagua Thu, May 7, 2009 1:17:07pm |
re: #44 Nevergiveup
I'm planning to stay liquored up for the duration of the next 4 year, blunt the pain that way.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:17:12pm |
re: #43 buzzsawmonkey
All those lands were formerly Islamic!
Except Antartica, where they worshipped the Great Old Ones.
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 1:18:05pm |
I kept clicking but it wouldn't zoom in to show me my house........
What a gyp....
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experiencedtraveller Thu, May 7, 2009 1:18:30pm |
Bindings reveal much about antiquarian books. Leather bindings came to prominence in the 1750's or so. Before that it was primarily vellum and other animal hides.
For more information about antiquarian books check the ABAA or surf through Ebay who makes a large market in them.
Some of the oldest materials are the hand-written, illuminated manuscripts and they are extremely beautiful and valuable. Early books made on a printing press are called incunabula and were printed before 1501.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:19:09pm |
re: #40 OldLineTexan
Well, if you're gonna get picky, we have babes in Texas, too.
And Minnesotans have fish. Some of the Turks may be watching their cholesterol.
/
I'm off to Argentina next week, so I just wanted to catalogue the attractions carefully, as a reminder.
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bosforus Thu, May 7, 2009 1:20:16pm |
re: #52 Occasional Reader
Argentina again? Weren't you just there a few months ago?
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mike(in)savage Thu, May 7, 2009 1:20:17pm |
If you were to squeeze South and Central America, North America would plump up to be much larger.
An immigration analogy, perhaps?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:20:31pm |
I hate to tell you this Charles, but I think you got rooked. (In a bazaar in Turkey? No way!) The book & writing may be from the 18th-Century, but the map is likely contemporary. I see things like this a lot in my line of work, people paint old-looking miniatures over old manuscripts which have nothing to do with the paintings. They're meant to separate tourists from their money.
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debutaunt Thu, May 7, 2009 1:20:36pm |
re: #52 Occasional Reader
I'm off to Argentina next week, so I just wanted to catalogue the attractions carefully, as a reminder.
Are you a high-level drug runner?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:21:30pm |
re: #52 Occasional Reader
I'm off to Argentina next week, so I just wanted to catalogue the attractions carefully, as a reminder.
Business? Pleasure? Secret Mossad strike force hunting down old nazis?
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 1:22:31pm |
re: #59 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Business? Pleasure? Secret Mossad strike force hunting down old nazis?
Is there a difference between the three?
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experiencedtraveller Thu, May 7, 2009 1:22:58pm |
re: #52 Occasional Reader
I'm off to Argentina next week, so I just wanted to catalogue the attractions carefully, as a reminder.
Tango competition?
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Ariel Thu, May 7, 2009 1:23:15pm |
re: #35 Bagua
I traslated the caption it reads:
Future location of Shawarma King franchises
I translated it too, and it says:
Here be the Great Satan.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, May 7, 2009 1:23:18pm |
re: #57 Cicero05
Where be monsters?
All those weird squiggly lines off the edges of the map. There be the monsters.
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DaddyG Thu, May 7, 2009 1:23:57pm |
How about an 18th century map of the human genome?
(A very messy proceess involving slamming a condemned prisoner between the pages of a very large binding.) /
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:24:34pm |
re: #63 CyanSnowHawk
All those weird squiggly lines off the edges of the map. There be the monsters.
No, that's where a drunken worm got into the ink.
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wrenchwench Thu, May 7, 2009 1:24:46pm |
I got this 18th century map of the New World in the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul, Turkey, in 1994.
Nice. I got a cool pair of socks there.
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 1:24:52pm |
You can see that the Jersey Turnpike was backed up even then.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:25:11pm |
re: #53 bosforus
Argentina again? Weren't you just there a few months ago?
Yes. Yet, for some reason, they're letting me back in. Short memories, I guess.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, May 7, 2009 1:25:35pm |
re: #66 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
No, that's where a drunken worm got into the ink.
I didn't say it was a particularly fearsome monster.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:25:37pm |
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DaddyG Thu, May 7, 2009 1:26:55pm |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:26:59pm |
re: #69 Occasional Reader
Yes. Yet, for some reason, they're letting me back in. Short memories, I guess.
What's Argentinian cuisine like? Similar to Spanish?
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:26:59pm |
re: #68 opnion
You can see that the Jersey Turnpike was backed up even then.
On the plus side, the Molly Pitcher Rest Stop was actually run by Molly Pitcher!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:27:32pm |
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 1:27:32pm |
re: #47 Occasional Reader
Except Antartica, where they worshipped the Great Old Ones.
At the Mountains of Madness.
Is that a shoggoth?
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capitalist piglet Thu, May 7, 2009 1:27:50pm |
Does this map make my country look big?
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DaddyG Thu, May 7, 2009 1:27:53pm |
re: #74 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
What's Argentinian cuisine like? Similar to Spanish?
With some German influences? /
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:28:21pm |
re: #59 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Business? Pleasure? Secret Mossad strike force hunting down old nazis?
Hunting the old nazis is much easier these days; you can just take away their walkers.
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lawhawk Thu, May 7, 2009 1:28:24pm |
That other caption, in the middle of the US, is actually declaring where Jimmy Hoffa is buried. /
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:28:47pm |
re: #78 buzzsawmonkey
It is my understanding that even the vegetables in Argentina are made of beef.
But enough about Maradona...
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 1:28:50pm |
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 1:29:10pm |
re: #75 Occasional Reader
On the plus side, the Molly Pitcher Rest Stop was actually run by Molly Pitcher!
True.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:29:34pm |
re: #74 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
What's Argentinian cuisine like? Similar to Spanish?
Beef, beef, and more beef (as buzzsaw's quip indicates). Plus, of course, lots of international cuisine, especially Italian and Spanish, given their roots.
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 1:29:34pm |
re: #74 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
What's Argentinian cuisine like? Similar to Spanish?
Their Scottish food is Kosher, I know that for a fact
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DaddyG Thu, May 7, 2009 1:29:35pm |
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Bagua Thu, May 7, 2009 1:30:10pm |
This map proves Creationism, notice there is no Galapagos islands on the map, so they must be less than 200 years old.
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DaddyG Thu, May 7, 2009 1:30:59pm |
We should really take these inside puns outside... Whew!
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, May 7, 2009 1:31:05pm |
re: #72 Bagua
Does my Brasil look big on this map?
Your Brasil should only be large enough to contain your Bolivars, otherwise people will look at Peru funny.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, May 7, 2009 1:31:09pm |
Had I only been in realestate back then!
IT WOULD ALL BE MINE! HAAHAHAHAHAHA!
MINE I SAY....MINE!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:31:20pm |
re: #78 buzzsawmonkey
It is my understanding that even the vegetables in Argentina are made of beef.
Remember the McRib? Even the bones were made of meat.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:31:28pm |
re: #77 Kosh's Shadow
At the Mountains of Madness.
Is that a shoggoth?
No, I'm just happy to see you.
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 1:31:41pm |
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KenJen Thu, May 7, 2009 1:32:05pm |
Charles, What are the dimensions on the map? Just curious. It's beautiful. You should frame it.
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Honorary Yooper Thu, May 7, 2009 1:32:15pm |
re: #94 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Remember the McRib? Even the bones were made of meat.
I'd rather not remember the McRib.
/Just say no to faux-que.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, May 7, 2009 1:32:30pm |
re: #87 Desert Dog
Their Scottish food is Kosher, I know that for a fact
The Argentina McD's is mehadrin kosher, not even the McD's in Israel has that level of certification.
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experiencedtraveller Thu, May 7, 2009 1:32:30pm |
re: #89 buzzsawmonkey
One thing is nice about Argentina; you don't have to mind your manners. Everyone is gauch-o.
Just remember to declare any suitecases full of cash...
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 1:32:43pm |
re: #94 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Remember the McRib? Even the bones were made of meat.
If you are talking about McD's, I think it is more appropriate to say that even the meat were made of bones . . ./
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:32:48pm |
re: #94 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Remember the McRib? Even the bones were made of meat.
"You're wayyy off. Think, 'smaller'... and more legs."
-Krusty
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:32:57pm |
re: #99 Honorary Yooper
I'd rather not remember the McRib.
/Just say no to faux-que.
I still have flashbacks, but they're becoming less severe.
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JHW Thu, May 7, 2009 1:33:10pm |
The Piri Reis map is a famous pre-modern world map compiled in 1513 from military intelligence by the Ottoman-Turkish admiral and cartographer Piri Reis. The half of the map which survives shows the western coasts of Europe and North Africa and the coast of Brazil with reasonable accuracy. Various Atlantic islands including the Azores and Canary Islands are depicted, as is the mythical island of Antillia and possibly Japan. The map has been used in pseudo-scholarship to claim an ancient knowledge of an ice-free Antarctica, transmitted either from extra-terrestrials or an Ice Age civilization, but the region in question better fits Patagonia. The historical importance of the map lies in its demonstration of the extent of Portuguese exploration of the New World by approximately 1510, and in its claim to have used Columbus's maps, otherwise lost, as a source
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DaddyG Thu, May 7, 2009 1:33:25pm |
re: #94 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Remember the McRib? Even the bones were made of meat.
Ah yes, and like spaghettios one of the few foods that has no discernable change of state between the time it is ingested to the time it is eliminated (regardless of how).
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 1:33:32pm |
re: #98 KenJen
Charles, What are the dimensions on the map? Just curious. It's beautiful. You should frame it.
He keeps it in the glove box of his '75 Lincoln Town Car. He only gets it out if he is REALLY lost.
/
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:34:13pm |
re: #100 Alouette
The Argentina McD's is mehadrin kosher, not even the McD's in Israel has that level of certification.
I don't know that much about what's kosher, but can a cheeseburger ever be kosher?
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 1:34:15pm |
re: #99 Honorary Yooper
I'd rather not remember the McRib.
/Just say no to faux-que.
Those things were hooves & lips.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:35:04pm |
re: #100 Alouette
The Argentina McD's is mehadrin kosher, not even the McD's in Israel has that level of certification.
Wow. Never heard that. Any idea where that particular one is located? I'd be curious to check it out.
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 1:35:36pm |
re: #108 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I don't know that much about what's kosher, but can a cheeseburger ever be kosher?
You can't mix dairy with meat......learned that here at LGF.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 7, 2009 1:35:54pm |
re: #31 Desert Dog
Amazing detail
Not to mention the sound of the ocean, it puts me to sleeeeee...
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:36:05pm |
re: #111 buzzsawmonkey
Not if it's real cheese, no.
What if it's beef with goat (or other animal) cheese?
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:36:35pm |
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Ward Cleaver Thu, May 7, 2009 1:37:01pm |
re: #112 LGoPs
You can't mix dairy with meat......learned that here at LGF.
So much for a chocolate shake with meatballs.
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DaddyG Thu, May 7, 2009 1:37:18pm |
re: #115 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
What if it's beef with goat (or other animal) cheese?
I was wondering the same thing about anything that's "not 'da mama".
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vxbush Thu, May 7, 2009 1:37:47pm |
re: #117 Ward Cleaver
So much for a chocolate shake with meatballs.
Do not discuss such evils. Chocolate should never be thus polluted.
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 1:38:22pm |
re: #115 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
What if it's beef with goat (or other animal) cheese?
Well, when I was 16 and worked at McDonalds on Havana Street in beautiful Aurora, Colorado, I am pretty sure we did not put "real cheese" on them BigMacs. It looked like cheese, and kinda tasted like cheese, but it was not cheese.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:39:15pm |
re: #120 Desert Dog
Well, when I was 16 and worked at McDonalds on Havana Street in beautiful Aurora, Colorado, I am pretty sure we did not put "real cheese" on them BigMacs. It looked like cheese, and kinda tasted like cheese, but it was not cheese.
I always look for products that are labeled "cheese food". Usually in smallish print.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, May 7, 2009 1:39:22pm |
re: #120 Desert Dog
Well, when I was 16 and worked at McDonalds on Havana Street in beautiful Aurora, Colorado, I am pretty sure we did not put "real cheese" on them BigMacs. It looked like cheese, and kinda tasted like cheese, but it was not cheese.
Oh sure, next you'll be telling me that Velveeta isn't cheese.
/
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:39:28pm |
re: #117 Ward Cleaver
So much for a chocolate shake with meatballs.
That's 2/3 of Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
/#1 in da hood, G!
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 1:40:03pm |
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Russkilitlover Thu, May 7, 2009 1:40:21pm |
re: #112 LGoPs
You can't mix dairy with meat......learned that here at LGF.
No ground beef shakes, huh? Bummer.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 1:40:29pm |
re: #108 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I don't know that much about what's kosher, but can a cheeseburger ever be kosher?
Not if the meat is real meat and the cheese is real cheese.
However, if the "meat" is a veggieburger, it can be kosher, or if the cheese is fake, non-dairy "cheese".
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Spider Mensch Thu, May 7, 2009 1:40:39pm |
re: #121 Occasional Reader
I always look for products that are labeled "cheese food". Usually in smallish print.
I think steven wright asked "is that what cheese eats?"
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 1:40:50pm |
re: #121 Occasional Reader
I always look for products that are labeled "cheese food". Usually in smallish print.
Pasturized processed cheese food.
yum.
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Russkilitlover Thu, May 7, 2009 1:40:58pm |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:41:16pm |
re: #122 CyanSnowHawk
Oh sure, next you'll be telling me that Velveeta isn't cheese.
/
It's processed cheese, the main difference between that & "real" cheese is that the whey is reintroduced into the mix.
/Saw a Modern Marvels special on cheese.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 1:41:41pm |
re: #57 Cicero05
Where be monsters?
I was going to say that. Then decided to "F3" monsters. Your post showed up.
CURSES!
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 1:41:54pm |
My brother and I used to put beef gravy on cottage cheese when we were kids.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 1:42:04pm |
re: #126 Kosh's Shadow
Not if the meat is real meat and the cheese is real cheese.
However, if the "meat" is a veggieburger, it can be kosher, or if the cheese is fake, non-dairy "cheese".
So if God had caused it to rain tofu burgers and Cheez-Whiz from heaven, the Israelites would have been a-ok eating it.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, May 7, 2009 1:42:05pm |
re: #128 redstateredneck
Pasturized processed cheese food.
yum.
How else are you supposed to spray it out of the can?
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A Kiwi Infidel Thu, May 7, 2009 1:42:13pm |
I have consulted my arabic/english dictionary and I see the bit in Canada says "Infidels", the bit in the US says "more infidels", the bit in Brazil says "not much here" and the bit in Argentina says "infidels and their 9 year old daughters". The piece at the bottom says, "all ours, ripe for the picking"
Oh BTW, if "they" believe the earth is flat and they cant see the Americas from their window I guess it must mean that the Americas are on the other side of the dice.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 1:42:36pm |
re: #122 CyanSnowHawk
Oh sure, next you'll be telling me that Velveeta isn't cheese.
/
Read somewhere that Margarine is one molecule away from being plastic.
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DaddyG Thu, May 7, 2009 1:42:40pm |
Two all beef soy and animal byproduct patties special sauce lettuce shredded vegitable matter cheese imitation dairy solids pickles onions on a sesame seed bun bleached flour loaf.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, May 7, 2009 1:43:05pm |
re: #108 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I don't know that much about what's kosher, but can a cheeseburger ever be kosher?
A beef burger with soy cheese can be kosher.
A tofu burger with real cheese can be kosher.
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A Kiwi Infidel Thu, May 7, 2009 1:43:18pm |
re: #131 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I was going to say that. Then decided to "F3" monsters. Your post showed up.
CURSES!
New Avatar FBV? Less confusing
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, May 7, 2009 1:43:23pm |
re: #130 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Did ya catch the one on "Hot Dogs"......
I'll never eat them anyway but that one didn't help!
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 1:43:23pm |
re: #133 Occasional Reader
So if God had caused it to rain tofu burgers and Cheez-Whiz from heaven, the Israelites would have been a-ok eating it.
"What's for dinner Mom?"
"Manna, Jacob"
"Manna AGAIN!"
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, May 7, 2009 1:43:34pm |
re: #133 Occasional Reader
So if God had caused it to rain tofu burgers and Cheez-Whiz from heaven, the Israelites would have been a-ok eating it.
Sounds like low rent manna.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 1:43:35pm |
re: #130 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
It's processed cheese, the main difference between that & "real" cheese is that the whey is reintroduced into the mix.
/Saw a Modern Marvels special on cheese.
Saw the same show. It has whey, oil, and various emulsifiers and stabilizers added to actual cheese, and then it is melted and mixed together.
Thus is produced Velveeta, the Cheese that Would Not Die
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 1:43:37pm |
re: #121 Occasional Reader
I always look for products that are labeled "cheese food". Usually in smallish print.
I like the term 'potted meat product'.
WTF?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:43:39pm |
re: #133 Occasional Reader
So if God had caused it to rain tofu burgers and Cheez-Whiz from heaven, the Israelites would have been a-ok eating it.
Most theologians think that's what manna was.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 1:43:41pm |
re: #134 CyanSnowHawk
How else are you supposed to spray it out of the can?
Don't knock it. EZ Cheese is a good source of calcium.
I know that, because I read it on the can.
One can is one serving...right?
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DaddyG Thu, May 7, 2009 1:43:58pm |
re: #127 Spider Mensch
I think steven wright asked "is that what cheese eats?"
My favorite Steven Wright question is "If they put pictures of vegitables on canned vegitables, then why is there a picture of a baby on the baby food jar?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:44:22pm |
re: #144 LGoPs
I like the term 'potted meat product'.
WTF?
I had a few friends in college that fit that description to a T.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 1:44:31pm |
re: #139 A Kiwi Infidel
Yep. By design. And it is a really cool avatar, isn't it?
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 1:44:47pm |
re: #147 DaddyG
My favorite Steven Wright question is "If they put pictures of vegitables on canned vegitables, then why is there a picture of a baby on the baby food jar?
Mine is: "I live on a one-way dead end street"
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 1:44:50pm |
"The cheese stands alone, the cheese stands alone, hi-ho, the derio, the cheese stands alone."
WTF does that mean, anyway?re: #143 Kosh's Shadow
Saw the same show. It has whey, oil, and various emulsifiers and stabilizers added to actual cheese, and then it is melted and mixed together.
Thus is produced Velveeta, the Cheese that Would Not Die
I once received a job application from a woman named Velveeta Larshay. Kinda has a ring to it.
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DaddyG Thu, May 7, 2009 1:45:08pm |
re: #141 Desert Dog
"What's for dinner Mom?"
"Manna, Jacob"
"Manna AGAIN!"
Mind Your Mannas young man!
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 1:45:23pm |
re: #147 DaddyG
My favorite Steven Wright question is "If they put pictures of vegitables on canned vegitables, then why is there a picture of a baby on the baby food jar?
What about pictures of Girl Scouts on Girl Scout Cookies?
(Cue Wednesday Addams)
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Russkilitlover Thu, May 7, 2009 1:45:26pm |
re: #136 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Read somewhere that Margarine is one molecule away from being plastic.
I read that too, and that if you put an open container of Margarine and an open container of butter in the garage, bugs will go to the butter but NOT the margarine. That stuff's just nasty.
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 1:46:01pm |
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 1:46:01pm |
re: #152 redstateredneck
I see I managed to combine two posts again. Dang that auto comment button!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 1:46:15pm |
re: #138 Alouette
I am curious as to what I eat (as a vegetarian) that is not kosher. Don't really care, but am curious.
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 1:46:16pm |
re: #132 redstateredneck
My brother and I used to put beef gravy on cottage cheese when we were kids.
I wish we were so lucky. We couldn't afford cottage chesse. We had to put beef gravy on dirt..........
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 7, 2009 1:46:24pm |
The Mercator projection is a geographical lie. (Note that the superimposed dots represent areas of equal size.)
It makes Africa and South America look insignificant in relation to their real proportions. In actual fact, Brazil alone is nearly as big as the continental United States.
A sinusoidal projection comes much closer to the reality.
Even better is this.
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Racer X Thu, May 7, 2009 1:46:44pm |
re: #136 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Read somewhere that Margarine is one molecule away from being plastic.
True.
Place a tub of it outside. Critters will leave it alone - it is not food to them.
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 7, 2009 1:46:49pm |
re: #121 Occasional Reader
I always look for products that are labeled "cheese food". Usually in smallish print.
Mostly made from oil.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 1:46:55pm |
re: #155 Russkilitlover
I read that too, and that if you put an open container of Margarine and an open container of butter in the garage, bugs will go to the butter but NOT the margarine. That stuff's just nasty.
WE READ THE SAME ARTICLE!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:47:05pm |
re: #160 Cato the Elder
The Mercator projection is a geographical lie. (Note that the superimposed dots represent areas of equal size.)
It makes Africa and South America look insignificant in relation to their real proportions. In actual fact, Brazil alone is nearly as big as the continental United States.
RACIST!
%P%
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 1:47:06pm |
re: #159 LGoPs
I wish we were so lucky. We couldn't afford cottage chesse. We had to put beef gravy on dirt..........
Was it clay dirt?
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Russkilitlover Thu, May 7, 2009 1:47:30pm |
re: #144 LGoPs
I like the term 'potted meat product'.
WTF?
That's beef that's been raised in a patio container.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 1:47:32pm |
re: #152 redstateredneck
"The cheese stands alone, the cheese stands alone, hi-ho, the derio, the cheese stands alone."
WTF does that mean, anyway?
I once received a job application from a woman named Velveeta Larshay. Kinda has a ring to it.
Velveeta, the Cheese that Would Not Die is from National Lampoon's Doon
A great parody, that takes place on Arruckus, the dessert planet, whose vast sugars, inhabited by giant pretzels and freedmenmen, is the only known source of that mysterious, mind-altering substance known as "beer".
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, May 7, 2009 1:47:37pm |
My mom is thrilled with the winegram I sent her for Mother's Day.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, May 7, 2009 1:47:47pm |
re: #152 redstateredneck
"The cheese stands alone, the cheese stands alone, hi-ho, the derio, the cheese stands alone."
WTF does that mean, anyway?
I once received a job application from a woman named Velveeta Larshay. Kinda has a ring to it.
Charisma Carpenter no longer is so bugged about being named after a perfume.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:48:02pm |
re: #160 Cato the Elder
A sinusoidal projection comes much closer to the reality.
Is that a polite way of saying "snot"?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 1:48:04pm |
re: #159 LGoPs
I wish we were so lucky. We couldn't afford cottage chesse. We had to put beef gravy on dirt..........
And we LIKED it!
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 1:48:04pm |
re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am curious as to what I eat (as a vegetarian) that is not kosher. Don't really care, but am curious.
As a vegetarian do you eat artichoke heart?
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DaddyG Thu, May 7, 2009 1:48:05pm |
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bosforus Thu, May 7, 2009 1:48:17pm |
re: #69 Occasional Reader
Yes. Yet, for some reason, they're letting me back in. Short memories, I guess.
Someone wants you to become a socialist. Don't fall for it!
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A Kiwi Infidel Thu, May 7, 2009 1:48:19pm |
re: #149 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yep. By design. And it is a really cool avatar, isn't it?
After reading your post #146, it really is you, isnt it?
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 1:48:55pm |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:48:59pm |
re: #165 redstateredneck
Was it clay dirt?
Clay? That there's fancy dirt! They couldn't afford that!
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DaddyG Thu, May 7, 2009 1:49:06pm |
re: #170 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Is that a polite way of saying "snot"?
Some people think thats gum he's chewing... but it snot.
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 1:49:07pm |
re: #165 redstateredneck
Was it clay dirt?
No. Clay dirt was for the rich kids.........we just had plain, old fashioned, nutrient poor dirt.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 1:49:30pm |
re: #170 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Is that a polite way of saying "snot"?
I thought it was a sinusoidal projection but it's not.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 1:50:19pm |
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 1:50:24pm |
re: #174 bosforus
Someone wants you to become a socialist. Don't fall for it!
Perhaps he can catch a flight over to Bolivia and help Jimmah pick some coca leaves while he's in the 'hood?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 1:50:26pm |
re: #172 LGoPs
As a vegetarian do you eat artichoke heart?
The ears off of corn. And the eyes off of a potato. And the lips off of a ... uh ... what vegetable has lips?
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Cato the Elder Thu, May 7, 2009 1:51:14pm |
re: #179 LGoPs
No. Clay dirt was for the rich kids.........we just had plain, old fashioned, nutrient poor dirt.
You had dirt? Lucky bastards! We had to beg for spare dust bunnies and navel lint.
I bet you had feet, too. Not us. We had stumps, and we were lucky to have those. Some families nearby had to share a pair of stumps between six, seven kids.
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DaddyG Thu, May 7, 2009 1:51:51pm |
re: #180 redstateredneck
I thought it was a sinusoidal projection but it's not.
A tidbit from 1491... While the Europeans were gawking at the uncivilized indians the Native Americans were wondering why the white man would wrap up a boogger in linen and save it in their pocket like they were saving a precious heirloom.
Gotta catch the train.
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 1:52:02pm |
re: #183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The ears off of corn. And the eyes off of a potato. And the lips off of a ... uh ... what vegetable has lips?
LOL.....
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Racer X Thu, May 7, 2009 1:52:10pm |
re: #183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The ears off of corn. And the eyes off of a potato. And the lips off of a ... uh ... what vegetable has lips?
Flowers - they have two lips.
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DaddyG Thu, May 7, 2009 1:52:39pm |
re: #183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The ears off of corn. And the eyes off of a potato. And the lips off of a ... uh ... what vegetable has lips?
Vagitable? /
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, May 7, 2009 1:52:54pm |
re: #183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The ears off of corn. And the eyes off of a potato. And the lips off of a ... uh ... what vegetable has lips?
A Peach?
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 1:53:24pm |
re: #184 Cato the Elder
You had dirt? Lucky bastards! We had to beg for spare dust bunnies and navel lint.
I bet you had feet, too. Not us. We had stumps, and we were lucky to have those. Some families nearby had to share a pair of stumps between six, seven kids.
ROTFLMAO.......
:)
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 1:53:34pm |
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Ariel Thu, May 7, 2009 1:53:34pm |
re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am curious as to what I eat (as a vegetarian) that is not kosher. Don't really care, but am curious.
Nothing. If you're a vegetarian, everything you eat is kosher. One rabbi I knew said that God wanted us to be vegetarians, but felt like he had to compromise with people's natural desire for meat, so he created the laws of kashrut to minimize animal suffering and ensure that people are conscious of what they are doing when they eat meat.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 1:53:38pm |
Bill Clinton's on Rachel Ray. He keeps looking at her ass.
Not really; but kind of funny.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 1:53:55pm |
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 1:54:33pm |
re: #193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Bill Clinton's on Rachel Ray. He keeps looking at her ass.
Not really; but kind of funny.
Hillary should lend her the frying she uses at home. You know, the one with all the dents in it.
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DaddyG Thu, May 7, 2009 1:54:36pm |
re: #191 redstateredneck
oh, hell, you didn't.
:-D
Yup I did. Ducks and runs in serpentine pattern...
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 1:54:49pm |
re: #141 Desert Dog
"What's for dinner Mom?"
"Manna, Jacob"
"Manna AGAIN!"
Man, Momma . . .not Manna again
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Ojoe Thu, May 7, 2009 1:55:07pm |
The Turks knew about the Orinoco River, that's for sure.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 1:55:53pm |
re: #196 Desert Dog
Kind of always wondered about that. If she went after him with a fireplace poke, Secret Service'd have to shoot her, wouldn't they?
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UFO TOFU Thu, May 7, 2009 1:56:41pm |
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Russkilitlover Thu, May 7, 2009 1:56:43pm |
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 1:56:45pm |
re: #192 Ariel
Nothing. If you're a vegetarian, everything you eat is kosher. One rabbi I knew said that God wanted us to be vegetarians, but felt like he had to compromise with people's natural desire for meat, so he created the laws of kashrut to minimize animal suffering and ensure that people are conscious of what they are doing when they eat meat.
Just don't have blue cheese. Mold isn't kosher.
And you need to very carefully wash all the vegetables to make sure no insects are on them, because insects aren't kosher (except for a few specific species of locust, and those are only allowed for communities that have a tradition of eating them and can tell which ones are kosher).
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, May 7, 2009 1:57:10pm |
Nice! And a very interesting map. Thanks, Charles.
Has anyone translated the big caption over the State of Texas?
/*duck*
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 1:57:22pm |
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 1:58:19pm |
re: #204 Kosh's Shadow
Just don't have blue cheese. Mold isn't kosher.
And you need to very carefully wash all the vegetables to make sure no insects are on them, because insects aren't kosher (except for a few specific species of locust, and those are only allowed for communities that have a tradition of eating them and can tell which ones are kosher).
Only the circumsized locusts, eh? If I was THAT hungry, I think I would not take the time to check and see if they are.
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 1:59:35pm |
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, May 7, 2009 1:59:46pm |
re: #183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The ears off of corn. And the eyes off of a potato. And the lips off of a ... uh ... what vegetable has lips?
Mick Jagger?
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:00:03pm |
Has no one posted the map of Middle Earth yet?
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 2:01:13pm |
re: #208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Isn't cheese a mold?
No, only blue cheese is moldy.
Cheese itself is made from curdled milk. Cream cheese involves some kind of bacteria (trying to remember the details from the Modern Marvels show on cheese).
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 2:01:26pm |
re: #183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The ears off of corn. And the eyes off of a potato. And the lips off of a ... uh ... what vegetable has lips?
I yam at a loss........
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 2:01:35pm |
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Russkilitlover Thu, May 7, 2009 2:02:22pm |
re: #208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Isn't cheese a mold?
They arent all exposed to mold. They ae exposed to rennens and acids which change the texture and curdle the milk. The liquid is drained off (whey) and the solidsare preserved (cheese).
Soft-ripened cheeses such as Brie and Camembert are made by allowing white Penicillium candida or P. camemberti mold to grow on the outside of a soft cheese for a few days or weeks. The mold forms a white crust and contributes to the smooth, runny, or gooey textures and more intense flavors of these aged cheeses. Goats' milk cheeses are often treated in a similar manner, sometimes with white molds (Chèvre-Boîte) and sometimes with blue.
Blue-mold cheeses like Roquefort, Gorgonzola, and Stilton are produced by inoculating loosely pressed curds with Penicillium roqueforti or Penicillium glaucum molds. The mold grows within the cheese as it ages. These cheeses have distinct blue veins and, often, assertive flavors. Their texture can be soft or firm.
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Madeline Thu, May 7, 2009 2:03:05pm |
Charles,
Great map! This looks more like a 16th Century map to me. The shape of the continents, the multiple compass roses and ships sketched in the ocean have that mid 1500's look.
I'm no map expert, but do collect antique books, botanicals, animal prints and some maps.
Just saying your map could be older than you think!
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 2:03:08pm |
re: #214 MandyManners
Has no one posted the map of Middle Earth yet?
In darkest depths of Mordor, I met a girl so fair, but Gollum the evil one, crept up and slipped away with her.....Ramble On
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 2:03:14pm |
re: #218 Kosh's Shadow
Whey did you have to bring that up?
Don't get offended. You need to tuffet out.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 2:03:17pm |
re: #204 Kosh's Shadow
Just don't have blue cheese. Mold isn't kosher.
How about matzoh-rella? Is that kosher?
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J Doc Thu, May 7, 2009 2:03:24pm |
Not sure how this turned into a food post, but I have to say that gravy on anything is good.
Try dunking Cheddar or mozzarella sticks in gravy...yum.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 2:03:31pm |
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 2:03:38pm |
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Thu, May 7, 2009 2:03:46pm |
Beautiful Map Charles... Cheesy Thread. All this talk of food is making me hungry... is there any leftover fruit cups from the overnight thread?
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:03:56pm |
re: #221 Madeline
Charles,
Great map! This looks more like a 16th Century map to me. The shape of the continents, the multiple compass roses and ships sketched in the ocean have that mid 1500's look.I'm no map expert, but do collect antique books, botanicals, animal prints and some maps.
Just saying your map could be older than you think!
I say we call in the crew of Antiques Roadshow.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 7, 2009 2:04:15pm |
“Well, isn’t that special." Bostom has turned off the comments for his article attacking Bawer and Fortuyn. I was the only person who had left a comment, and he (or a moderator) deleted it twice before they shut the comment s down. Typical tactics. What does that remind you of?
Here is my comment in case anyone is interested.
Your article is as much proof as one would want if you need to understand what is going on in Europe.
Attacking ones sexual preference as you have just done was a standard practice of these racial nationalist, hell, didn’t the 30’s teach you anything?
And this little post by you just highlights the hatred. You didn’t address or refute a single point in Bawer’s article, never even mentioned it, linked to it, but never mentioned it.
A cheap, dirty low shot that has nothing to do with anything. This doesn’t bolster your positions one iota.
You tact is nothing new, just more national socialism ?
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jhrhv Thu, May 7, 2009 2:04:23pm |
18th century is that when Obama started running for the president of the U.S.A.?
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Russkilitlover Thu, May 7, 2009 2:04:26pm |
re: #215 Kosh's Shadow
No, only blue cheese is moldy.
Cheese itself is made from curdled milk. Cream cheese involves some kind of bacteria (trying to remember the details from the Modern Marvels show on cheese).
No Humbolt Blue for you? Bummer.
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:04:28pm |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 2:04:34pm |
re: #221 Madeline
Charles,
Great map! This looks more like a 16th Century map to me. The shape of the continents, the multiple compass roses and ships sketched in the ocean have that mid 1500's look.I'm no map expert, but do collect antique books, botanicals, animal prints and some maps.
Just saying your map could be older than you think!
See my #55 - I suspect it's more recent that he thinks!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, May 7, 2009 2:04:59pm |
re: #227 Kosh's Shadow
Are we going to milk this pun thread?
The mere thought of it is enough to curdle all commentary.
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 2:05:00pm |
re: #206 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Nice! And a very interesting map. Thanks, Charles.
Has anyone translated the big caption over the State of Texas?
/*duck*
I believe the original Turkish script says "Where the men are men and the sheep are afraid".............
*zigzags away running for cover*
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Walter L. Newton Thu, May 7, 2009 2:05:04pm |
My tummy is sick. I'm going back to bed, just got up because the phone rang. See you all later.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, May 7, 2009 2:05:18pm |
re: #228 Conservative in Liberal Hands
Beautiful Map Charles... Cheesy Thread. All this talk of food is making me hungry... is there any leftover fruit cups from the overnight thread?
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 2:05:20pm |
re: #233 MandyManners
Darn fine dope-smoking song.
especially if you have headphones....it goes back and forth at the end....WHOOOAA Dude
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Ben Hur Thu, May 7, 2009 2:05:23pm |
Does this mean that the Native Americans really were Muslims?
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:05:28pm |
re: #215 Kosh's Shadow
No, only blue cheese is moldy.
Cheese itself is made from curdled milk. Cream cheese involves some kind of bacteria (trying to remember the details from the Modern Marvels show on cheese).
That program to me seems akin to visiting Kholer Wisconsin.
They make the high end bathroom fixtures there. It has a 5 star resort & a golf course.
The kicker is they have a bathroom fixture museum. Seriously bathroom stuff through the ages.
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 2:06:20pm |
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:06:29pm |
re: #241 opnion
That program to me seems akin to visiting Kholer Wisconsin.
They make the high end bathroom fixtures there. It has a 5 star resort & a golf course.
The kicker is they have a bathroom fixture museum. Seriously bathroom stuff through the ages.
We've come a long way, baby.
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:06:39pm |
re: #239 Desert Dog
especially if you have headphones....it goes back and forth at the end....WHOOOAA Dude
The Rain Song is another good dope-smoking song.
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Thu, May 7, 2009 2:06:51pm |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 2:06:57pm |
re: #240 Ben Hur
Does this mean that the Native Americans really were Muslims?
that's in one of the lost books of Mormon that the LDS is trying to suppress.
/
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 2:07:33pm |
re: #224 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
How about matzoh-rella? Is that kosher?
As long as it isn't made with natural rennet. Rennet is a problem because it is taken from calves under a week old, and that makes them unkosher.
You see, it is forbidden to sacrifice an animal under a week old, and if we cannot sacrifice it to G-d, we certainly can't use it for ourselves.
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:07:36pm |
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 2:07:45pm |
re: #244 MandyManners
The Rain Song is another good dope-smoking song.
Well, once you light up....just about any song becomes a good dope-smoking song, yes?....even Alvin and the Chipmunks version of Whole Lotta Love sounds deep
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, May 7, 2009 2:07:46pm |
re: #236 LGoPs
I believe the original Turkish script says "Where the men are men and the sheep are afraid".............
*zigzags away running for cover*
*grin*
I'm glad someone took the opportunity.
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 2:08:28pm |
re: #241 opnion
That program to me seems akin to visiting Kholer Wisconsin.
They make the high end bathroom fixtures there. It has a 5 star resort & a golf course.
The kicker is they have a bathroom fixture museum. Seriously bathroom stuff through the ages.
The American Club. I believe it was an old Playboy club. The old Kohler family mansion is also a resort golf course: Riversbend
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 2:08:42pm |
re: #235 pre-Boomer Marine brat
The mere thought of it is enough to curdle all commentary.
I cheddar at the thought of some of the puns
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:09:38pm |
re: #250 Desert Dog
Well, once you light up....just about any song becomes a good dope-smoking song, yes?....even Alvin and the Chipmunks version of Whole Lotta Love sounds deep
Fortunately I've never heard that one.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 2:09:42pm |
re: #244 MandyManners
The Rain Song is another good dope-smoking song.
Best dope-smoking song for me?...
Course, it's been 25 years....
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 2:09:59pm |
re: #253 Kosh's Shadow
I cheddar at the thought of some of the puns
mozza rella hit a nerve.....huh?
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jhrhv Thu, May 7, 2009 2:10:04pm |
re: #240 Ben Hur
I believe it was the Spanish and the Brits that did most of the discovering. The Muslims probably killed someone and stole the map then claimed it was their own.
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 7, 2009 2:10:31pm |
re: #236 LGoPs
I believe the original Turkish script says "Where the men are men and the sheep are afraid".............
*zigzags away running for cover*
The Turks discovered Texas A&M?
/I did not know that
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, May 7, 2009 2:11:00pm |
re: #253 Kosh's Shadow
I cheddar at the thought of some of the puns
Then we are caught on the longhorn of a dilemma.
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 2:11:23pm |
re: #257 jhrhv
I believe it was the Spanish and the Brits that did most of the discovering. The Muslims probably killed someone and stole the map then claimed it was their own.
The Arabs did their share as well, but not as well as the English, they are the all time champs.
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:11:35pm |
re: #243 redstateredneck
We've come a long way, baby.
The concept of a bathroom fixture museum seems bizzare, but it actually is kind of interesting.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, May 7, 2009 2:11:42pm |
re: #258 OldLineTexan
The Turks discovered Texas A&M?
/I did not know that
It was once called "Turk's Ass A & M" .... The Mexicans bastardized the name.
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 7, 2009 2:11:59pm |
re: #154 Kosh's Shadow
What about pictures of Girl Scouts on Girl Scout Cookies?
(Cue Wednesday Addams)
Just don't eat any Brownies.
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 2:12:23pm |
re: #261 opnion
The concept of a bathroom fixture museum seems bizzare, but it actually is kind of interesting.
Well, stay away from the Fleet Enema museum...especially the interactive displays.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 2:12:27pm |
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 2:12:45pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, May 7, 2009 2:12:53pm |
re: #258 OldLineTexan
The Turks discovered Texas A&M?
/I did not know that
*stands up, waving hands, yelling to the room*
I DIDN'T SAY THAT !
/*snicker*grin*
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 7, 2009 2:13:04pm |
re: #123 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
That's 2/3 of Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
/#1 in da hood, G!
Ice on your fingers and your toes ... are you a Taurus?
/
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capitalist piglet Thu, May 7, 2009 2:13:33pm |
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:13:58pm |
re: #255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Best dope-smoking song for me?...
Course, it's been 25 years....
Too busy for smoking pot but, a nice song otherwise.
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Thu, May 7, 2009 2:14:06pm |
re: #241 opnion
That program to me seems akin to visiting Kholer Wisconsin.
They make the high end bathroom fixtures there. It has a 5 star resort & a golf course.
The kicker is they have a bathroom fixture museum. Seriously bathroom stuff through the ages.
The John Michael Kohler Arts Center is a pretty neat place to visit. As long as this has turned into a foodie thread, if one is visiting Kohler, one should slide down the road to Sheboygan and sample their Bratwurst.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, May 7, 2009 2:14:35pm |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 2:14:45pm |
re: #273 Conservative in Liberal Hands
The John Michael Kohler Arts Center is a pretty neat place to visit. As long as this has turned into a foodie thread, if one is visiting Kohler, one should slide down the road to Sheboygan and sample their Bratwurst.
Their wurst is the best?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 2:14:59pm |
re: #271 MandyManners
Too busy for smoking pot but, a nice song otherwise.
Oh, with headphones on it was ...uh ...uh ... what was I sayin... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:15:22pm |
re: #252 Creeping Eruption
The American Club. I believe it was an old Playboy club. The old Kohler family mansion is also a resort golf course: Riversbend
As I recall the Playboy Club was in Lake Geneva,Wi. There is a new resort on the property. No Lake view, the wrong side of Route 12.
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 2:15:35pm |
re: #273 Conservative in Liberal Hands
The John Michael Kohler Arts Center is a pretty neat place to visit. As long as this has turned into a foodie thread, if one is visiting Kohler, one should slide down the road to Sheboygan and sample their Bratwurst.
Bah! You want Brats, come to Milwaukee. Sheboygan is a bathroom stop on the way to the North Woods.
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 2:15:41pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, May 7, 2009 2:15:45pm |
re: #272 Desert Dog
Swiss one of you started this cheese pun?
Hole off with that just a bit, until we really get going.
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Madeline Thu, May 7, 2009 2:15:54pm |
re: #234 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
You very well could be right!
The style of the map is like ones of 16th century. If manuscript is dated in 18th century, then very possibly a trace of older map to make more bucks off tourists.
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:15:59pm |
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Thu, May 7, 2009 2:16:06pm |
re: #275 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Their wurst is the best?
It's damn good, though! Maybe not the best, but damn good!
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 7, 2009 2:16:12pm |
re: #268 pre-Boomer Marine brat
*stands up, waving hands, yelling to the room*
I DIDN'T SAY THAT !/*snicker*grin*
Oh Aggie Boy, with apologies to the Irish
Oh Aggie boy, as pretty as a fairy tale
That you would find
Wherever fruit trees grow
It's not at all apparent
That your sex is male
Or that your band
Can do a halftime show
And Oh! the Corps
That darling bunch of manly guys
We know they sleep
Together when it's cold ...
AT A & M
with all the things that name implies
The guys who go with girls
Are really pretty bold
/not my song, but I memorized it almost 25 years ago
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 2:16:24pm |
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capitalist piglet Thu, May 7, 2009 2:16:30pm |
re: #277 opnion
As I recall the Playboy Club was in Lake Geneva,Wi. There is a new resort on the property. No Lake view, the wrong side of Route 12.
Indeed it was.
I grew up very near Wisconsin Dells...ever been there? It is the Rubber Indian Drum capitol of the world.
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MarineGrunt Thu, May 7, 2009 2:16:42pm |
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KenJen Thu, May 7, 2009 2:16:47pm |
re: #281 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Hole off with that just a bit, until we really get going.
I'm feta up with these puns.
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:16:48pm |
re: #278 Creeping Eruption
Bah! You want Brats, come to Milwaukee. Sheboygan is a bathroom stop on the way to the North Woods.
Maders!
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:16:58pm |
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Thu, May 7, 2009 2:17:07pm |
re: #278 Creeping Eruption
Bah! You want Brats, come to Milwaukee. Sheboygan is a bathroom stop on the way to the North Woods.
Actually the Scenic View Cafe has a pretty good steak dinner. Can you say "Road Trip!"?
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 2:17:08pm |
re: #277 opnion
As I recall the Playboy Club was in Lake Geneva,Wi. There is a new resort on the property. No Lake view, the wrong side of Route 12.
You are right. The Playboy club was the "Americana." Kohler still has the American Club and Riverbend. I have been to both - very nice.
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Racer X Thu, May 7, 2009 2:17:36pm |
re: #255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Best dope-smoking song for me?...
Course, it's been 25 years....
Excellent!
Haven't heard that one in years.
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 2:17:54pm |
re: #279 gymmom
What about a wine makes it kosher or not?
It shouldn't contain any grapes of wrath.....?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, May 7, 2009 2:18:05pm |
re: #285 OldLineTexan
Oh Aggie Boy, with apologies to the Irish
Oh Aggie boy, as pretty as a fairy tale
That you would find
Wherever fruit trees grow
It's not at all apparent
That your sex is male
Or that your band
Can do a halftime showAnd Oh! the Corps
That darling bunch of manly guys
We know they sleep
Together when it's cold ...
AT A & M
with all the things that name implies
The guys who go with girls
Are really pretty bold/not my song, but I memorized it almost 25 years ago
*stands up, waving hands, yelling to the room*
I DIDN'T POST THAT !
/*snicker*grin*
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 2:18:26pm |
re: #279 gymmom
What about a wine makes it kosher or not?
It has to be made by Jews.
This is because when the kasruth rules were made, most people were pagans, and their wine would be used in idol worship. There is a strict prohibition against Jews using any object that was used in idol worship.
The rules haven't changed.
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 2:18:33pm |
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 7, 2009 2:18:53pm |
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 7, 2009 2:19:23pm |
re: #299 Creeping Eruption
I can see Maders from my office (if I stretch my neck a little).
What else you got in the garden 'sides maders?
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 2:19:30pm |
re: #292 Conservative in Liberal Hands
Actually the Scenic View Cafe has a pretty good steak dinner. Can you say "Road Trip!"?
They also have Stefano which is worth the trip.
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:19:36pm |
re: #287 capitalist piglet
Indeed it was.
I grew up very near Wisconsin Dells...ever been there? It is the Rubber Indian Drum capitol of the world.
Oh yeah I have been to the Dells. We took our daughter when she was little & mdad the mistake of going to Paul Bunyans restaurant.
They serve family style on metal plates & the kids bang their spoons on the plates constantly.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, May 7, 2009 2:19:53pm |
re: #298 Kosh's Shadow
It has to be made by Jews.
This is because when the kasruth rules were made, most people were pagans, and their wine would be used in idol worship. There is a strict prohibition against Jews using any object that was used in idol worship.
The rules haven't changed.
So these two women aren't Jews then?
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 2:19:56pm |
re: #298 Kosh's Shadow
It has to be made by Jews.
This is because when the kasruth rules were made, most people were pagans, and their wine would be used in idol worship. There is a strict prohibition against Jews using any object that was used in idol worship.
The rules haven't changed.
MD 20/20.....Kosher and will kick your ass....just like the IDF
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:20:13pm |
re: #293 Creeping Eruption
You are right. The Playboy club was the "Americana." Kohler still has the American Club and Riverbend. I have been to both - very nice.
You got it.
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 2:20:16pm |
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:20:18pm |
re: #298 Kosh's Shadow
It has to be made by Jews.
This is because when the kasruth rules were made, most people were pagans, and their wine would be used in idol worship. There is a strict prohibition against Jews using any object that was used in idol worship.
The rules haven't changed.
The trucking company I work for hauls bulk food grade sugars. We have to have Kosher certification on the trailers themselves by a rabbi in order to haul product to some places where they are making Kosher food items.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 2:20:36pm |
Queen's "A Night At the Opera" was a great pot-smoking album.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, May 7, 2009 2:21:08pm |
re: #300 OldLineTexan
Yes, you did.
You know it because it is a fact.
/Bugs Bunny
uh oh!
*standing on tiptoe, peering around, looking for AggieMom*
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:21:11pm |
re: #305 Desert Dog
MD 20/20.....Kosher and will kick your ass....just like the IDF
Reminds me of many a high school puker party.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 2:21:22pm |
re: #298 Kosh's Shadow
It has to be made by Jews.
This is because when the kasruth rules were made, most people were pagans, and their wine would be used in idol worship. There is a strict prohibition against Jews using any object that was used in idol worship.
The rules haven't changed.
So having wine while watching American Idol is right out?
/
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 2:21:34pm |
re: #287 capitalist piglet
Indeed it was.
I grew up very near Wisconsin Dells...ever been there? It is the Rubber Indian Drum capitol of the world.
My parents have a nice summer place just north of the Dells. I love it up there.
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 2:21:48pm |
re: #304 CyanSnowHawk
So these two women aren't Jews then?
Sure they are, you know Jezebel and her sister Gomorraha don't you?
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Thu, May 7, 2009 2:21:50pm |
re: #302 Creeping Eruption
We discovered it by accident on a rad trip to Door County. BTw, did anybody konw that Door County is a reference to "Death's Door"?
There are more shipwrecks around Door County, WI than anyplace else in the Great Lakes.
/More useless trivia
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:21:59pm |
re: #299 Creeping Eruption
I can see Maders from my office (if I stretch my neck a little).
May I suggest the sauerbraten?
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capitalist piglet Thu, May 7, 2009 2:22:03pm |
re: #303 opnion
Oh yeah I have been to the Dells. We took our daughter when she was little & mdad the mistake of going to Paul Bunyans restaurant.
They serve family style on metal plates & the kids bang their spoons on the plates constantly.
I have been there. My mother used to work there, in fact. I ate there once, and only once.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 2:22:05pm |
re: #308 redstateredneck
The trucking company I work for hauls bulk food grade sugars. We have to have Kosher certification on the trailers themselves by a rabbi in order to haul product to some places where they are making Kosher food items.
That is to make sure there is no non-kosher material in the truck.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 2:22:06pm |
At the risk of sounding like a huge loser nerd...
Anybody following American Idol this year. I've watched it with one eye and my favorite was killed off last night.
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Shr_Nfr Thu, May 7, 2009 2:22:09pm |
re: #249 MandyManners
Actually, yes. There is a gene linked to weight loss in smokers:
What keeps smokers thin
6 May 2009, 1300 hrs IST, ANI
WASHINGTON: Previous studies have shown that smokers have less body fat as compared to non-smokers. Now, a new study by US researchers may help
explain the reason.
For the study, researchers from Weill Medical College of Cornell University New York evaluated the levels of alpha2-zinc-glycoprotein1 (AZGP1), a gene linked to weight loss, in 37 healthy non-smokers and 55 healthy smokers.
They found that AZGP1 levels were higher in smokers than non-smokers.
They could not directly prove that smoking induced increases in AZGP1 are enough to mediate weight loss, but they speculate that the increased AZGP1 levels in smokers could be one mechanism contributing to the weight difference between smokers and non-smokers.
This study is published in the May issue of CHEST, the peer-reviewed journal of the American.
source: [Link: timesofindia.indiatimes.com...]
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 2:22:14pm |
re: #296 LGoPs
It shouldn't contain any grapes of wrath.....?
If it's Kosher, then it's made from the grapes of Roth.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:22:16pm |
re: #313 LGoPs
My parents have a nice summer place just north of the Dells. I love it up there.
The farmer in the Dell, the farmer in the Dell...here I go again.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 2:22:40pm |
re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Queen's "A Night At the Opera" was a great pot-smoking album.
And it has the only song I know of about relativistic time dilation.
39
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Russkilitlover Thu, May 7, 2009 2:22:42pm |
re: #298 Kosh's Shadow
It has to be made by Jews.
This is because when the kasruth rules were made, most people were pagans, and their wine would be used in idol worship. There is a strict prohibition against Jews using any object that was used in idol worship.
The rules haven't changed.
So being stomped by feet isn't the problem.
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capitalist piglet Thu, May 7, 2009 2:22:42pm |
re: #313 LGoPs
My parents have a nice summer place just north of the Dells. I love it up there.
By Castle Rock? (Don't feel obliged to answer if that's too intrusive.)
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 2:23:11pm |
re: #319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
At the risk of sounding like a huge loser nerd...
Anybody following American Idol this year. I've watched it with one eye and my favorite was killed off last night.
Sorry. I don't answer comments from huge loser nerds......
/ ;
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 2:23:21pm |
re: #303 opnion
Oh yeah I have been to the Dells. We took our daughter when she was little & mdad the mistake of going to Paul Bunyans restaurant.
They serve family style on metal plates & the kids bang their spoons on the plates constantly.
You need to go to re: #313 LGoPs
My parents have a nice summer place just north of the Dells. I love it up there.
The Dells is where the geography and topography of Wisconsin becomes very beautiful. Glaciers do wonderful work.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 2:23:27pm |
re: #323 Kosh's Shadow
Just listened to that. Seriously!
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:23:33pm |
re: #318 Kosh's Shadow
That is to make sure there is no non-kosher material in the truck.
Yep. He comes once a year for inspection and re-certification.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, May 7, 2009 2:23:41pm |
re: #319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
At the risk of sounding like a huge loser nerd...
Anybody following American Idol this year. I've watched it with one eye and my favorite was killed off last night.
She won't want for employment for more than about 5 minutes ...
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:23:53pm |
re: #313 LGoPs
My parents have a nice summer place just north of the Dells. I love it up there.
I like Wisconsin, even though I'm a FIB. Door County is great, particularly Egg Harbor.
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Russkilitlover Thu, May 7, 2009 2:23:59pm |
re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Queen's "A Night At the Opera" was a great pot-smoking album.
So were their concerts.
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 2:24:03pm |
re: #325 capitalist piglet
By Castle Rock? (Don't feel obliged to answer if that's too intrusive.)
Not a problem. It's in Adams/Friendship...small town close to there.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:24:16pm |
re: #319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
At the risk of sounding like a huge loser nerd...
Anybody following American Idol this year. I've watched it with one eye and my favorite was killed off last night.
She was good, but very young. Somebody will snatch her up and develop her talent, I guarantee.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 2:24:17pm |
re: #320 Shr_Nfr
This study is published in the May issue of CHEST, the peer-reviewed journal of the American.source: [Link: timesofindia.indiatimes.com...]
"CHEST?" Sounds like a no-frills Playboy.
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capitalist piglet Thu, May 7, 2009 2:24:23pm |
re: #327 Creeping Eruption
The Dells is where the geography and topography of Wisconsin becomes very beautiful. Glaciers do wonderful work.
I so agree with that. I've been gone many years, and though I live in a beautiful place (Seattle), I really miss it sometimes.
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Natasha Thu, May 7, 2009 2:24:35pm |
Interesting find, that map! I dropped in, it caught my attention, so I only intended to take a look at it, but I am definitely staying for the puns. I am still amazed at how the lizard gang can turn pretty much anything into a pun!
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:24:37pm |
re: #317 capitalist piglet
I have been there. My mother used to work there, in fact. I ate there once, and only once.
You get some serious headache at that place.
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 2:24:37pm |
re: #315 Conservative in Liberal Hands
We discovered it by accident on a rad trip to Door County. BTw, did anybody konw that Door County is a reference to "Death's Door"?
There are more shipwrecks around Door County, WI than anyplace else in the Great Lakes.
/More useless trivia
Not if you are a sailor. Very useful info according to my buddy who does regattas around there.
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 2:24:39pm |
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quickjustice Thu, May 7, 2009 2:24:59pm |
Cool! I got my Hereke rug in the Grand Bazaar in 1990. Such a deal!
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:25:16pm |
re: #320 Shr_Nfr
Actually, yes. There is a gene linked to weight loss in smokers:
What keeps smokers thin
6 May 2009, 1300 hrs IST, ANIWASHINGTON: Previous studies have shown that smokers have less body fat as compared to non-smokers. Now, a new study by US researchers may help
explain the reason.For the study, researchers from Weill Medical College of Cornell University New York evaluated the levels of alpha2-zinc-glycoprotein1 (AZGP1), a gene linked to weight loss, in 37 healthy non-smokers and 55 healthy smokers.
They found that AZGP1 levels were higher in smokers than non-smokers.
They could not directly prove that smoking induced increases in AZGP1 are enough to mediate weight loss, but they speculate that the increased AZGP1 levels in smokers could be one mechanism contributing to the weight difference between smokers and non-smokers.
This study is published in the May issue of CHEST, the peer-reviewed journal of the American.
source: [Link: timesofindia.indiatimes.com...]
I thought it was the higher metabolism smokers get from the nicotine.
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Shr_Nfr Thu, May 7, 2009 2:25:19pm |
re: #256 LGoPs
In other news, the US is dropping the tariff on Roquefort [Link: online.wsj.com...]
Looks like we won't have a beef about that one.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, May 7, 2009 2:25:21pm |
re: #319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
At the risk of sounding like a huge loser nerd...
Anybody following American Idol this year. I've watched it with one eye and my favorite was killed off last night.
You know that Adam's gonna win this, but I was sorry to see Allison get the boot. She's going to have a big career if she doesn't trash her voice.
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gymmom Thu, May 7, 2009 2:25:29pm |
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 2:25:39pm |
re: #316 opnion
May I suggest the sauerbraten?
Haven't been there since last year when three people were shot at a club next door and one died on Maders doorstep.
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OldLineTexan Thu, May 7, 2009 2:25:48pm |
re: #342 MandyManners
I thought it was because smokers can't taste anything.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 2:25:59pm |
re: #323 Kosh's Shadow
Walter was talking about relativistic time dilation just last week. I didn't understand it, but he was talking about something from High School with it. Didn't use the term, but (having just looked it up) it was kind of what he was talking about.
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capitalist piglet Thu, May 7, 2009 2:26:02pm |
re: #333 LGoPs
Not a problem. It's in Adams/Friendship...small town close to there.
Ah, yes. I know it well. My aforementioned mother (who worked at Paul Bunyan's) used to work for a private investigator on cases around Adams/Friendship. (She was an interesting, colorful woman. : )
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:26:23pm |
re: #321 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
If it's Kosher, then it's made from the grapes of Roth.
Now you have me thinking of Portnoy's Complaint. Oh, ick. That one passage....
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gymmom Thu, May 7, 2009 2:26:33pm |
re: #344 CyanSnowHawk
I've been watching too and can blame it on my 12 year old. I think she can have a career in the music business, along with Kris and Adam. Don't think Danny has the right appeal. But lots of people like him.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 2:26:35pm |
re: #334 redstateredneck
She was on three years too early.
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Shr_Nfr Thu, May 7, 2009 2:26:41pm |
re: #342 MandyManners
Probably more than one thing. But I found that one interesting.
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Racer X Thu, May 7, 2009 2:26:45pm |
re: #323 Kosh's Shadow
And it has the only song I know of about relativistic time dilation.
39
Dr. Brian May is an astrophysicist.
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:27:16pm |
re: #347 OldLineTexan
I thought it was because smokers can't taste anything.
My taste buds work just fine.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:27:19pm |
re: #344 CyanSnowHawk
You know that Adam's gonna win this, but I was sorry to see Allison get the boot. She's going to have a big career if she doesn't trash her voice.
At least this season they haven't had a loser Sanjaya that stayed on way past their ability. I don't care for Adam, but he does produce a consistently good performance. Accept for that "Ring of Fire" thing.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 2:27:45pm |
re: #348 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Walter was talking about relativistic time dilation just last week. I didn't understand it, but he was talking about something from High School with it. Didn't use the term, but (having just looked it up) it was kind of what he was talking about.
And do you know that time dilation is even measurable at the speeds of commercial aircraft? The Hafele-Keating experiment showed that
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:27:57pm |
re: #351 gymmom
I've been watching too and can blame it on my 12 year old. I think she can have a career in the music business, along with Kris and Adam. Don't think Danny has the right appeal. But lots of people like him.
I like Danny. He's got kind of an Elvis Costello look.
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:28:11pm |
re: #319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
At the risk of sounding like a huge loser nerd...
Anybody following American Idol this year. I've watched it with one eye and my favorite was killed off last night.
Loser, nerd? Say it loud say it proud. I saw it & was surprised that Allison got booted.
She just thurned 17 & kills on a Janis Joplin song. She has a big future.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, May 7, 2009 2:28:16pm |
re: #337 Natasha
Interesting find, that map! I dropped in, it caught my attention, so I only intended to take a look at it, but I am definitely staying for the puns. I am still amazed at how the lizard gang can turn pretty much anything into a pun!
BTW, in your sapper classes, do they teach you about the things which most definitely do NOT work -- for example, the Bangalore Torpid-o?
/*grin* ... hey, you asked for it!
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Thu, May 7, 2009 2:28:42pm |
re: #339 Creeping Eruption
Personally, I am convinced beyond argument that the Great Lakes are Inland Seas! The first time I went swimming in Lake Michigan - coming from La Jolla, California (and swimming & surfing most every day) I almost drowned. Also watching a winter storm from the shore... Naw, it is a Sea not a lake!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 2:28:49pm |
re: #354 Racer X
Dr. Brian May is an astrophysicist.
"'39" was Brian May's attempt to do "sci-fi skiffle." The B-side of "You're My Best Friend" and one of the band's most popular songs, "'39" relates the tale of a group of space explorers who embark on what is, from their perspective, a year-long voyage. Upon their return, however, they realize that a hundred years have passed, due to the time dilation effect in Einstein's Theory of Special Relativity, and the loved ones they left behind are now all dead.[3] Because the "year of '39" resembles 1939, some[4] have speculated that this is actually a song about the beginning of World War II but this is not the case. There are backing vocals by Mercury as well as very high and fairly low harmonies by Taylor, and some falsettos by Taylor.
Wiki Wiki Wiki Wiki (the remix)
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Russkilitlover Thu, May 7, 2009 2:29:30pm |
re: #334 redstateredneck
She was good, but very young. Somebody will
snatch her up and develop her talentstifle her talent and can her music, I guarantee.
Sorry, had to editorialize on the pop music industry ;-}
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:29:34pm |
re: #359 opnion
Loser, nerd? Say it loud say it proud. I saw it & was surprised that Allison got booted.
She just thurned 17 & kills on a Janis Joplin song. She has a big future.
She totally nailed it last night on her farewell performance.
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 2:30:02pm |
re: #331 opnion
I like Wisconsin, even though I'm a FIB. Door County is great, particularly Egg Harbor.
Door County rivals New England for fall colors IMHO.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 2:30:12pm |
Adam got a call from the worlds gayest man, asking him to tone down the "gayness"?
Just sayin'.
NTTAWWT!
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 2:30:35pm |
re: #361 Conservative in Liberal Hands
Personally, I am convinced beyond argument that the Great Lakes are Inland Seas! The first time I went swimming in Lake Michigan - coming from La Jolla, California (and swimming & surfing most every day) I almost drowned. Also watching a winter storm from the shore... Naw, it is a Sea not a lake!
Having grown up a block from Lake Michigan, I agree. Its usually gentle appearance lulls people into a false sense of security . . and bam! They are toast.
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Racer X Thu, May 7, 2009 2:30:35pm |
re: #354 Racer X
Dr. Brian May is an astrophysicist.
Interesting -
May studied physics at Imperial College London, graduating with a B.Sc. (Hons) degree in both Physics and Mathematics and ARCS with Upper Second-Class Honours. He then proceeded to study for a Ph.D degree, also at the Imperial College London departments of Physics and Mathematics, and was part way through this Ph.D programme, studying reflected light from interplanetary dust and the velocity of dust in the plane of the Solar System, when Queen became successful.
He abandoned his physics doctorate but did co-author two scientific research papers: MgI Emission in the Night-Sky Spectrum (1972)[7] and An Investigation of the Motion of Zodiacal Dust Particles (Part I) (1973),[8] which were based on May's observations at the Teide Observatory in Tenerife. He is the co-author of Bang! – The Complete History of the Universe with Patrick Moore and Chris Lintott, which was published in October 2006.[9]
More than 30 years after he started his research, in October 2007 he completed his Ph.D. thesis in astrophysics[10], entitled A Survey of Radial Velocities in the Zodiacal Dust Cloud[11], passed his viva voce, and performed the required corrections.[12][13][14][15] He officially graduated at the postgraduate awards ceremony held in the Royal Albert Hall, on the afternoon of Wednesday 14 May 2008.
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Sharmuta Thu, May 7, 2009 2:30:41pm |
It's a little weird out there- lgf watch is agreeing with Charles about VB, and another LGF stalker blog is spending more time watching pam & bob. Even lgf watch calls the 2 "fruitloops".
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:30:47pm |
re: #363 Russkilitlover
Sorry, had to editorialize on the pop music industry ;-}
She doesn't fit the pop princess mold. Hopefully, she'll be groomed by someone who actually has a talent for music.
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quickjustice Thu, May 7, 2009 2:31:11pm |
OT: The James Bond movie "From Russia With Love", starring Sean Connery, has a lot of footage of Istanbul, including Hagia Sophia and the Grand Bazaar, where the head of Station T (Turkey) has a rug business as his cover.
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 2:31:43pm |
re: #337 Natasha
Interesting find, that map! I dropped in, it caught my attention, so I only intended to take a look at it, but I am definitely staying for the puns. I am still amazed at how the lizard gang can turn pretty much anything into a pun!
Puns are never a problem, hun.....
:)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 2:31:45pm |
re: #351 gymmom
Danny has the sympathy (Awww. His wife died.) thing going for him.
He's the one who's wife died?
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Honorary Yooper Thu, May 7, 2009 2:31:57pm |
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 2:32:15pm |
re: #365 LGoPs
Door County rivals New England for fall colors IMHO.
This is the best place in Wisconsin for Fall Colors - hands down: Holy Hill Basilica
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:32:19pm |
re: #373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Danny has the sympathy (Awww. His wife died.) thing going for him.
He's the one who's wife died?
His wife died? I did not know that.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 2:32:33pm |
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quickjustice Thu, May 7, 2009 2:33:46pm |
In my youth, I dated a few hot, Jewish chicks! The Sephardic lady was really nice!
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, May 7, 2009 2:34:16pm |
re: #359 opnion
Loser, nerd? Say it loud say it proud. I saw it & was surprised that Allison got booted.
She just thurned 17 & kills on a Janis Joplin song. She has a big future.
Mrs. Hawk thinks Allison doesn't have a good fan base for the show like the boys do. I might agree, but she absolutely rocked the Joplin song, and I don't care too much for Joplin.
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Macker Thu, May 7, 2009 2:34:44pm |
re: #362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I prefer this method of travel. No relativistic effects involved:
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Natasha Thu, May 7, 2009 2:34:45pm |
re: #360 pre-Boomer Marine brat
BTW, in your sapper classes, do they teach you about the things which most definitely do NOT work -- for example, the Bangalore Torpid-o?
/*grin* ... hey, you asked for it!
LOL... I sure did ask for it. Thanks! :)
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Silvergirl Thu, May 7, 2009 2:34:47pm |
re: #366 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Adam got a call from the worlds gayest man, asking him to tone down the "gayness"?
Just sayin'.
NTTAWWT!
Speaking of gay, though apropos of perhaps nothing, I read yesterday that David Ogden Stiers has come out.
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LGoPs Thu, May 7, 2009 2:34:50pm |
re: #319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
At the risk of sounding like a huge loser nerd...
Anybody following American Idol this year. I've watched it with one eye and my favorite was killed off last night.
Sorry, FBV. I made a smart ass comment to your question earlier and just noticed the smiley face at the end dropped off. Didn't want you to think I was dissing you.
:)
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Honorary Yooper Thu, May 7, 2009 2:35:34pm |
re: #369 Sharmuta
It's a little weird out there- lgf watch is agreeing with Charles about VB, and another LGF stalker blog is spending more time watching pam & bob. Even lgf watch calls the 2 "fruitloops".
I saw that earlier today. I had to keep from laughing out loud when I read the post on LGF Watch. The Duece (sounds appropriate, IMHO) is nuts. They were the first to attack Bawer.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 2:35:45pm |
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:36:14pm |
re: #385 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
In July of '08. Now he's gotcha too!
I already liked him! I like the guy from Arkansas, too, though.
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Desert Dog Thu, May 7, 2009 2:36:20pm |
re: #368 Racer X
I know most musically talented people also usually have high intelligence, but doesn't it seem that the UK has produced a much brighter batch of rock stars than the USA? The Billy Idol and Ozzy factor removed, of course.
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Russkilitlover Thu, May 7, 2009 2:36:21pm |
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 2:36:30pm |
re: #361 Conservative in Liberal Hands
Personally, I am convinced beyond argument that the Great Lakes are Inland Seas! The first time I went swimming in Lake Michigan - coming from La Jolla, California (and swimming & surfing most every day) I almost drowned. Also watching a winter storm from the shore... Naw, it is a Sea not a lake!
Where were you swimming?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 2:36:54pm |
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Silvergirl Thu, May 7, 2009 2:38:02pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, May 7, 2009 2:38:31pm |
re: #382 Silvergirl
Oh, hell. That was like Elton John coming out.
Now, "Liberace? I didn't see that coming. Women loved him."
-Austin Powers.
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:38:33pm |
re: #346 Creeping Eruption
Haven't been there since last year when three people were shot at a club next door and one died on Maders doorstep.
Whoa! That's the first time that I heard that.
When I am there it is for buiness lunches. Things must get tougher at night.
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capitalist piglet Thu, May 7, 2009 2:38:48pm |
re: #387 Desert Dog
I know most musically talented people also usually have high intelligence, but doesn't it seem that the UK has produced a much brighter batch of rock stars than the USA? The Billy Idol and Ozzy factor removed, of course.
That reminds me of a drummer I used to work with, who reminded me of "Woody" on Cheers. When I told him this, he shouted, "I ain't no Woody!"
Of course, he sounded just like "Woody" at that moment, which simply solidified my impression.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, May 7, 2009 2:39:03pm |
re: #374 Honorary Yooper
NSFW! NSFW! Use the disclaimer!
Oh, okay. I figure that if the naughty bits were covered it was fine.
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:39:17pm |
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reine.de.tout Thu, May 7, 2009 2:39:37pm |
re: #392 Silvergirl
Not a M*A*S*H fan I see.
Well I am.
I'm surprised it was kept quiet for as long as it was.
perhaps because he's not really that well-known, apart from his MAsh character.
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:39:38pm |
I couldn't figure out which I liked better when I was younger: Billy Idol, Joe Elliot or Adam Ant.
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:39:40pm |
re: #361 Conservative in Liberal Hands
Personally, I am convinced beyond argument that the Great Lakes are Inland Seas! The first time I went swimming in Lake Michigan - coming from La Jolla, California (and swimming & surfing most every day) I almost drowned. Also watching a winter storm from the shore... Naw, it is a Sea not a lake!
If you can't see the other side it is Big Water.
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Thu, May 7, 2009 2:40:30pm |
re: #389 Creeping Eruption
Long, long time ago, I swam near the clock tower between Addison and Irving Park. For those of you who watch the cubs on WGN, the clock tower is in the shot they show of sail boats on Lake Michigan.
OT and BTW - 72 days until the start of The 101st Chicago Yacht Club Race to Mackinac
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:41:34pm |
re: #379 CyanSnowHawk
Mrs. Hawk thinks Allison doesn't have a good fan base for the show like the boys do. I might agree, but she absolutely rocked the Joplin song, and I don't care too much for Joplin.
For such a young girl, she has real moxie. I have come to appreciate Janis Joplin more & more& that Allison just killed it.
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tazzerman Thu, May 7, 2009 2:41:49pm |
Interesting map... I wonder where IT came from? I doubt seriously if it was of actual arab invention itself, probably copied or cobbled from other sources. Especially after seeing the VERY Euro looking caravels etc..
What I find interesting are the little circle maps in each corner. Am I mistaken or are those maps of the Arctic and Antarctic?
I'd LOVE to see what the translations say. :) -tm
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Silvergirl Thu, May 7, 2009 2:42:01pm |
re: #397 redstateredneck
What does that make Hot Lips?
I don't know. What does she have to do with Stiers? Am I missing a joke here?
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DEZes Thu, May 7, 2009 2:42:32pm |
re: #403 Iron Fist
I love old maps. You can learn a lot by looking at them. I've got a 1947 Officer's Atlas from the Red Army (USSR). My Russian is just (barely) good enough to read the maps. It is interesting to look at the Middle East, especially "Palestine" and Transjordan as Soviet doctrine would ave seen the area just prior to the creation of Israel.
I doubt that Hamas would like what it shows. I doubt that very much.
I have always loved old globes, so I can understand the love of maps.
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 2:42:52pm |
re: #394 opnion
Whoa! That's the first time that I heard that.
When I am there it is for buiness lunches. Things must get tougher at night.
A nightclub in another part of downtown shut down do to shootings etc. Many of the patrons moved over to the club on Mader's block. Not too long after, there was this triple shooting. That club is gone and there are some nice beer halls there now. It is fine during the day and not too bad at night.
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:42:54pm |
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, May 7, 2009 2:43:01pm |
re: #387 Desert Dog
I know most musically talented people also usually have high intelligence, but doesn't it seem that the UK has produced a much brighter batch of rock stars than the USA? The Billy Idol and Ozzy factor removed, of course.
A friend of mine got his degree in Western Australia. He told me that the biggest reason for dropping out of engineering studies in Australia was to start a rock band. I wonder if the culture is similar in the UK?
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 2:43:47pm |
I got this 18th century map of the New World in the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul, Turkey
AND WHAT WERE YOU DOING IN TURKEY, CHARLES? WERE YOU HELPING TO PLAN THE ISLAMIFICATION OF AMERICA WITH YOUR ISLAMIFISIZIZIZING BUDDIES?!
With love,
Rob n' Pam
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 2:43:52pm |
re: #402 Conservative in Liberal Hands
Long, long time ago, I swam near the clock tower between Addison and Irving Park. For those of you who watch the cubs on WGN, the clock tower is in the shot they show of sail boats on Lake Michigan.
OT and BTW - 72 days until the start of The 101st Chicago Yacht Club Race to Mackinac
A good friend of mine crews the Mac race.
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Digital Display Thu, May 7, 2009 2:44:00pm |
re: #399 MandyManners
I couldn't figure out which I liked better when I was younger: Billy Idol, Joe Elliot or Adam Ant.
Billy Idol...He had the 'it' factor..
/Mandy and Billy in the 80's...mmmmm.. I could see it..The big hair..A convertible with the top down..
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:44:41pm |
re: #407 Silvergirl
I don't know. What does she have to do with Stiers? Am I missing a joke here?
Wasn't he Frank on M*A*S*H*, her boyfriend?
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Altermite Thu, May 7, 2009 2:44:54pm |
re: #406 tazzerman
Interesting map... I wonder where IT came from? I doubt seriously if it was of actual arab invention itself, probably copied or cobbled from other sources. Especially after seeing the VERY Euro looking caravels etc..
What I find interesting are the little circle maps in each corner. Am I mistaken or are those maps of the Arctic and Antarctic?
I'd LOVE to see what the translations say. :) -tm
the turks were active seamen for a while, iirc, and the caravel was based on an earlier arab ship, so that might simply be a parallel development.
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Silvergirl Thu, May 7, 2009 2:44:55pm |
re: #410 MandyManners
At yeast say goodbye.
Oh no. Bread puns. I can't rise to this occasion, any way you slice it.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 2:45:02pm |
re: #396 CyanSnowHawk
Oh, okay. I figure that if the naughty bits were covered it was fine.
With Billy Idol, the naughty bits could be anywhere!
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Silvergirl Thu, May 7, 2009 2:45:19pm |
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:45:25pm |
re: #365 LGoPs
Door County rivals New England for fall colors IMHO.
It really does. I like almost everything there, the fish boils not so much.
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Creeping Eruption Thu, May 7, 2009 2:45:36pm |
re: #417 Silvergirl
Oh no. Bread puns. I can't rise to this occasion, any way you slice it.
I sure don't knead a bread pun thread. G'night all.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, May 7, 2009 2:45:42pm |
re: #399 MandyManners
I couldn't figure out which I liked better when I was younger: Billy Idol, Joe Elliot or Adam Ant.
A former fiance was a big Joe Elliot fan. Must have seen Def Leppard at every venue within 200 miles.
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capitalist piglet Thu, May 7, 2009 2:45:59pm |
re: #417 Silvergirl
Oh no. Bread puns. I can't rise to this occasion, any way you slice it.
Bread puns. Swheat.
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:46:08pm |
re: #414 HoosierHoops
Billy Idol...He had the 'it' factor..
/Mandy and Billy in the 80's...mmmmm.. I could see it..The big hair..A convertible with the top down..
Black leather boots and Izods!
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redstateredneck Thu, May 7, 2009 2:46:27pm |
re: #415 redstateredneck
Wasn't he Frank on M*A*S*H*, her boyfriend?
Never mind, I'm confused...a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
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DEZes Thu, May 7, 2009 2:46:33pm |
re: #417 Silvergirl
Oh no. Bread puns. I can't rise to this occasion, any way you slice it.
People here always make something outta muffin.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 2:46:50pm |
re: #417 Silvergirl
re: #410 MandyManners
At yeast say goodbye.
Oh no. Bread puns. I can't rise to this occasion, any way you slice it.
Thank goodness it was a bread pun. I was thinking it was... never mind.
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:46:59pm |
re: #415 redstateredneck
Wasn't he Frank on M*A*S*H*, her boyfriend?
That was Larry Linville. When he left the show, Charles Emerson Winchester, III, came on.
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Silvergirl Thu, May 7, 2009 2:47:04pm |
re: #415 redstateredneck
Wasn't he Frank on M*A*S*H*, her boyfriend?
That's Larry Linville who died quite some time ago.
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Digital Display Thu, May 7, 2009 2:47:05pm |
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:47:07pm |
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:47:23pm |
re: #417 Silvergirl
Oh no. Bread puns. I can't rise to this occasion, any way you slice it.
Rub the crust out of your eyes!
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:48:02pm |
re: #423 CyanSnowHawk
A former fiance was a big Joe Elliot fan. Must have seen Def Leppard at every venue within 200 miles.
They had wild times backstage.
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Thu, May 7, 2009 2:48:18pm |
re: #424 capitalist piglet
I'm afraid that I simply cannot rise to the situation. Yeast you feel sorry for me!
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:48:40pm |
re: #429 Occasional Reader
Thank goodness it was a bread pun. I was thinking it was... never mind.
That's enough from you, young man.
*shaking ruler*
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zombie Thu, May 7, 2009 2:48:51pm |
re: #379 CyanSnowHawk
Mrs. Hawk thinks Allison doesn't have a good fan base for the show like the boys do. I might agree, but she absolutely rocked the Joplin song, and I don't care too much for Joplin.
re: #405 opnion
For such a young girl, she has real moxie. I have come to appreciate Janis Joplin more & more& that Allison just killed it.
I actually knew about Alison Iraheta long before this season of American Idol, because I watched her win the Spanish-language version of the show, on Telemundo. (She was 14 at the time.) Back then, there were all these videos she had taken of herself practicing at home at the ages of 12, 13 and 14. She had posted them on YouTube, and I stumbled across them after she was cruising to an unstoppable victory in the Telemundo idol show. Those practice videos were jaw-dropping. I thought first that she must be lip-synching, but no -- she'd stop and mess up and start again sometimes. I actually sent links to those videos to some friends, saying, "Can you believe this 13-year-old girl? She's the best singer I've ever heard!"
Now that she's more famous, the American idol producers got all those videos removed, unfortunately.
I hardly ever watch TV, but I did watch some Idol episodes this year, just to catch her. I thought she might win, but alas, no -- tweener girls dominate the voting, and they always vote for the "cute guys" exclusively.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 2:48:54pm |
re: #425 MandyManners
Black leather boots and Izods!
Cold beer
hot lights
My sweet romantic teenage nights
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:49:31pm |
re: #433 HoosierHoops
A back Trans Am...FM turned all the way up...
I had a Datsun Z car. Hell on wheels.
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Sparmageddon Thu, May 7, 2009 2:50:08pm |
re: #76 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Uruguay off with that, global warming and all/
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 2:50:44pm |
re: #433 HoosierHoops
A back Trans Am...FM turned all the way up...
I miss the 80s. Reagan was President, Chuck Norris movies were plentiful...
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Randall Gross Thu, May 7, 2009 2:50:52pm |
Are we sure that this isn't a page from The Necronomicon? It looks familiar....
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 2:51:19pm |
re: #425 MandyManners
Black leather boots and Izods!
From an earlier era:
Black denim trousers and motorcycle boots
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DEZes Thu, May 7, 2009 2:51:26pm |
re: #433 HoosierHoops
A back Trans Am...FM turned all the way up...
I bought a brand new Trans Am in 1978, Then Smokey and the Bandit came out.
Suddenly dates were no problem. ;)
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:51:32pm |
re: #440 Occasional Reader
Cold beer
hot lights
My sweet romantic teenage nights
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:53:07pm |
re: #439 zombie
Yeah, Allison was worth watching the Idol this year.
You just can't believe that voice comes out of a girl that young,
she was 16 when the competition started. I don't see any way that she won't be a star.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 2:53:38pm |
re: #448 MandyManners
Bob? I was quoting Billy (Joel).
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:54:07pm |
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Mithrax Thu, May 7, 2009 2:55:38pm |
re: #452 MandyManners
Time to hit up itunes, I can hear my credit card crying already :P
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Kragar Thu, May 7, 2009 2:55:54pm |
Trent Reznor has some issues with Apple
Thanks Apple for the clear description of the problem — as in, what do you want us to change to get past your stupid f***ing standards?
And while we’re at it, I’ll voice the same issue I had with Wal-Mart years ago, which is a matter of consistency and hypocrisy. Wal-Mart went on a rampage years ago insisting all music they carry be censored of all profanity and “clean” versions be made for them to carry. Bands (including Nirvana) tripped over themselves editing out words, changing album art, etc to meet Wal-Mart’s standards of decency — because Wal-Mart sells a lot of records. NIN refused, and you’ll notice a pretty empty NIN section at any Wal-Mart. My reasoning was this: I can understand if you want the moral posturing of not having any “indecent” material for sale — but you could literally turn around 180 degrees from where the NIN record would be and purchase the film “Scarface” completely uncensored, or buy a copy of Grand Theft Auto where you can be rewarded for beating up prostitutes. How does that make sense?
You can buy The Downward F***ing Spiral on iTunes, but you can’t allow an iPhone app that may have a song with a bad word somewhere in it. Geez, what if someone in the forum in our app says F*** or C***? I suppose that also falls into indecent material. Hey Apple, I just got some SPAM about f***ing hot asian teens THROUGH YOUR MAIL PROGRAM. I just saw two guys having explicit anal sex right there in Safari! On my iPhone!
Come on Apple, think your policies through and for f***’s sake get your app approval scenario together.
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:56:08pm |
re: #451 Occasional Reader
Bob? I was quoting Billy (Joel).
If my mind hadn't drifted, you'd never get to see 1:11 in my No. 452.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, May 7, 2009 2:56:55pm |
re: #450 opnion
Yeah, Allison was worth watching the Idol this year.
You just can't believe that voice comes out of a girl that young,
she was 16 when the competition started. I don't see any way that she won't be a star.
Don't underestimate an industry that might try to package her as another Brittany, although I think Simon might work to prevent that. She's a rocker, and if they stifle that, it won't turn out well. She needs some advice from Daughtry.
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Mithrax Thu, May 7, 2009 2:57:19pm |
re: #456 MandyManners
Lol.
Looks ain't everything. My personal standard is the size of a girl's library :P
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DEZes Thu, May 7, 2009 2:57:42pm |
re: #457 callahan23
{DEZes} found me out! How's you today?
I am tired, been a long week, just one more day till its the weekend.
And how are you today.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, May 7, 2009 2:57:54pm |
Have a great night, Lizards!
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vxbush Thu, May 7, 2009 2:57:58pm |
re: #455 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I believe Apple has already changed its mind (or its tune). They are allowing it.
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Occasional Reader Thu, May 7, 2009 2:58:30pm |
Off to have drinks with friends n' colleagues. Later.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 2:58:34pm |
re: #459 Mithrax
Lol.
Looks ain't everything. My personal standard is the size of a girl's library :P
What about girls with huge... tracts of land?
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Digital Display Thu, May 7, 2009 2:58:36pm |
re: #444 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I miss the 80s. Reagan was President, Chuck Norris movies were plentiful...
Ahhh.. the 80's.. The only time you could have kids in the back seat..The windows rolled down singing the Eagles at the top of your lungs..
I figured if any of them ever needed to go to Therapy that could blame me..
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 2:59:09pm |
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Mithrax Thu, May 7, 2009 2:59:15pm |
re: #464 Kosh's Shadow
What about girls with huge... tracts of land?
Don't matter if she's got tracts the size of Montana, no bookie, no nookie.
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Honorary Yooper Thu, May 7, 2009 2:59:22pm |
re: #445 Thanos
Are we sure that this isn't a page from The Necronomicon? It looks familiar....
Name's Ash. [cocks rifle] Housewares.
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opnion Thu, May 7, 2009 2:59:36pm |
re: #458 CyanSnowHawk
Don't underestimate an industry that might try to package her as another Brittany, although I think Simon might work to prevent that. She's a rocker, and if they stifle that, it won't turn out well. She needs some advice from Daughtry.
Yeah, she can't be a bubble gummer, she is a Rocker for sure.
Good point about Daughtry , he could really help, maybe let her open.
He has to feel secure to do that because she has some pipes.
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MandyManners Thu, May 7, 2009 3:00:01pm |
re: #459 Mithrax
Lol.
Looks ain't everything. My personal standard is the size of a girl's library :P
You nuzzle books?
*Bad Mandy*
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Mithrax Thu, May 7, 2009 3:00:25pm |
re: #470 MandyManners
You nuzzle books?
*Bad Mandy*
LOL
Yeah, but the papercuts are a real nightmare :P
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Kragar Thu, May 7, 2009 3:00:48pm |
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, May 7, 2009 3:01:26pm |
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capitalist piglet Thu, May 7, 2009 3:01:43pm |
re: #470 MandyManners
You nuzzle books?
*Bad Mandy*
Where is buzz? I'm working on something and I need his help:
I like big books and I cannot lie
And all the words they have inside
And when you curl up with that page and get a taste
With a booklight in your face
You get smart, want to show off your chops
Cause you know that your brain is tops
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callahan23 Thu, May 7, 2009 3:02:17pm |
re: #460 DEZes
I am tired, been a long week, just one more day till its the weekend.
And how are you today.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Personal troubles and a week of lecturing .... tired - big time, am happy as it's only "one more day till its the weekend". ;-)
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Spider Mensch Thu, May 7, 2009 3:03:18pm |
re: #441 MandyManners
I had a Datsun Z car. Hell on wheels.
I have a 1975 Datsun 280Z. Great shape. garage kept. Racing orange with chrome spoked wheels. 4 spd. fuel injection. new tire, brakes, exhaust sytem. about 100k on the speedo. I have it for sale. I paid 4500 about 7-8 years ago. I'm looking for 6000 but everyones broke now. I don't want to take a loss on it. so I guess I'll keep it for now. It is a sharp car and a fun drive. manual steering...lol..really gives you a feel for the road.
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Digital Display Thu, May 7, 2009 3:06:31pm |
re: #474 capitalist piglet
Where is buzz? I'm working on something and I need his help:
I like big books and I cannot lie
And all the words they have inside
And when you curl up with that page and get a taste
With a booklight in your face
You get smart, want to show off your chops
Cause you know that your brain is tops
Buzzsaw is on a G5 right now..He hides the fact he has a condo on the upper east side and is chief of staff for Leno..I know his driver...
I have proof..You ever seen Buzzsaw post anything while the private jet is going to the West coast? EVER? See what I mean? He flies home every morning at 4am..You ever seen Buzzsaw post at 4am?
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Madeline Thu, May 7, 2009 3:15:05pm |
[Link: www.henry-davis.com...]"A Complete & Perfect Map Describing the Whole World",
by Haggi Ahmed ,1559
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Alberta Oil Peon Thu, May 7, 2009 3:15:35pm |
Interesting map. Notice how the East-West dimensions of the continents are distorted relative to the North-South ones? That is a result of the lack of good chronometers back in the day. Latitude could be measured very accurately, even in Classical times, but in order to measure longitude, you need to have an accurate timepiece that works independent of the Sun, because you measure your longitude, typically, by noting the hour, relative to your starting point, at which local noon occurs.
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Canoe Train Thu, May 7, 2009 3:21:51pm |
re: #331 opnion
Writing as another Badger on this fine site, Door County is a bit too "commercial" and yuppified for my tastes. For the past three decades, it seems as if Door County is geared more and more and more towards tourism, especially for those with large expense and travel accounts. Everything there is expensive. While it is an attractive place, there are too many snobs.
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Canoe Train Thu, May 7, 2009 3:38:40pm |
re: #459 Mithrax
That's one of my standards, too. Sometimes beauty can come in other than physical forms.
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SixDegrees Thu, May 7, 2009 3:45:31pm |
re: #479 Alberta Oil Peon
Interesting map. Notice how the East-West dimensions of the continents are distorted relative to the North-South ones? That is a result of the lack of good chronometers back in the day. Latitude could be measured very accurately, even in Classical times, but in order to measure longitude, you need to have an accurate timepiece that works independent of the Sun, because you measure your longitude, typically, by noting the hour, relative to your starting point, at which local noon occurs.
You probably already know about it, but there's an excellent book on this topic - Longitude, by Dava Sobel. Sobel is an extremely good writer and researcher, and makes the topic vastly engrossing. A great, great read - if you haven't read it, you need to.
Also made into a miniseries by, I think, The History Channel, which was also quite well done. But Sobel's prose is outstanding.
Also, give her Galileo's Daughter a try. Galileo's story, illuminated by a collection of letters she sent to him from the convent she lived in, and fleshed out with biographical detail. Casts very interesting lights on the traditional "Church versus Science" presentation of his story, and has a stunning, surprise ending proving that art is always a pale imitation of life.
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maryatexitzero Thu, May 7, 2009 4:59:19pm |
An amazing map. You can find excellent stuff at the Grand Bazaar.
If you go down the back alleys nearby, there's a less-than-grand local bazaar where you can get some of the same things for 1/10th the price. Unfortunately, I found this after I did most of my shopping.
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Areopagitica Thu, May 7, 2009 6:04:48pm |
Charles,
Cool map but not sure if its genuine. The paper looks glossy in the photo. Is this printed on vellum or some other animal hide? That is something you probably wouldn't see in the 17th century but more like the 12th or 13th centuries. To the best of my knowledge, the earliest known printing of an arabic book is from the mid 1500's. If its paper, shine a flashlight behind a blank part of the map and see if you can see chain lines or a watermark going through the paper. These lines are unique to paper from the 1500's until around 1800. This is because the paper would be hand made. If you don't see those lines, I would be very suspicious. Also, if this came from an atlas, I don't think you'd see the kind of crease through the center of the map. It almost looks like it was in a book and a whole group of pages was bound in separating the entire map into two halves that you couldn't see at once. I've handled 16th and 17th century European atlases and the maps would never be folded and bound in that manner. Do some more research on this if you have time and keep us lizards updated if you are going to appear on Antiques Roadshow.
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meh130 Thu, May 7, 2009 7:08:52pm |
re: #3 Racer X
I see no ice whatsoever. They had global warming back then?
That is a really good observation. Look at the polar maps (if that is what the small circular maps are). It seems odd, but the map in the southwestern corner of the map looks like the Arctic Ocean, and the map in the northeastern corner looks like a map of the continent of Antarctica. I don't know why the north pole would be on the map's south, and the south pole is on the map's north. But if that is what they are, how did they know what part of the north polar ice cap was ice and what was land?
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Seax Thu, May 7, 2009 7:18:20pm |
You can see where the rum ration came on
hard...by the distortions in the map.
LOL.
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meh130 Thu, May 7, 2009 7:22:35pm |
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Madeline Thu, May 7, 2009 7:55:55pm |
re: #484 Areopagitica
I agree after looking more closely that this map is most likely not genuine. It looks to be a recent copy/tracing and very recent coloring of a 16th century style map similar in style to the Turkish Admiral Piri Reis. See link to example of his Map of Americas completed in early 1500's.
Piri Reis Map of 1513
The damp staining and foxing are also a clue that the map was done later over whatever was originally under the map. There is no sign that these stains and fox marks are on the map, and the damp staining would have protruded into the map area as these marks are circular in the way they naturally spread.
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Charles Johnson Thu, May 7, 2009 7:58:12pm |
Thanks to all who let me know that the salesman in the Grand Bazaar lied to me -- imagine my shock. I also got email from a collector who definitively punctured that balloon.
Oh well, at least I only paid $20 for it.
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The Left Fri, May 8, 2009 3:10:52am |
It may not be a genuine map, but it's still a gorgeous photo, IMHO. I hope you enjoyed your trip there. I was there once in 2002; beautiful city.
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Gary Gapinski Fri, May 8, 2009 3:37:51am |
The World Digital Library has several hundred maps from a variety of times and places.
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Cugel Fri, May 8, 2009 8:13:43pm |
At $20, you got yourself a nice souvenir. Not a lot to pay for a hand-crafted piece of art you can frame.
Finding real maps and legitimate brass scribe sets and so on for great prices, is hard work. I have a friend who has a few items he picked up in Aleppo, but it helps to be fluent in Arabic and of course to know what you're looking at. The tribal carpet industry also suffers from this. Some of the Pakistani carpet makers spread brand new carpets over the road and drive over them to age them and get better prices.
Still, if you love it and you get a price that won't make you wince whenever you recall it, who cares? I don't buy this stuff for resale - I buy it because it's love at first sight and I have to have it. Now, excuse me while I go walk barefoot across the lamb's wool Shirazi carpet I bought in Riyadh a few years back. Mmmmmmm.... Bliss!
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