Saturday Afternoon Open
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:52:54pm |
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:53:17pm |
The lawn isn't cut until the edging is done.
JMO.
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itellu3times Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:53:25pm |
Leftard lunch buddy of mine proudly announces on Thursday that Leon Panetta had after all agreed with Nancy Pelosi and validated her claims that the CIA had lied to her about torture etc.
I told leftard I'd have to read the report first.
Of course, the report said nothing like that. Someone had extorted a statement from someone else that yes the CIA had lied to someone about something, but very carefully mentioned neither Pelosi nor torture.
Good grief.
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:54:39pm |
re: #5 itellu3times
Updinged for using Pelosi and torture in the same sentence!
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itellu3times Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:55:38pm |
re: #6 VegasRick
Updinged for using Pelosi and torture in the same sentence!
OK, upding you for using Pelosi and sentence, in the same sentence!
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Racer X Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:57:14pm |
Saturday Afternoon Open
I was hoping for an invitational (Lounge).
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stuck in california Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:57:36pm |
Downding for saying Pelosi....period.
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MittDoesNotCompute Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:57:59pm |
re: #5 itellu3times
Leftard lunch buddy of mine proudly announces on Thursday that Leon Panetta had after all agreed with Nancy Pelosi and validated her claims that the CIA had lied to her about torture etc.
I told leftard I'd have to read the report first.
Of course, the report said nothing like that. Someone had extorted a statement from someone else that yes the CIA had lied to someone about something, but very carefully mentioned neither Pelosi nor torture.
Good grief.
Some people (usually liberals, seemingly) seem to cherry-pick what "facts" fit their worldview...if they can't find them, they just make some up.
/I know that some "conservatives" are guilty of this too, but on this subject, the liberals own this behavior...
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:58:37pm |
re: #7 itellu3times
Having to put up with Blinky is torture.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:59:31pm |
Injury-riddled Angels look like they're having their way with the Yankees after lulling them into a false sense of security.....
BWA-HA HA!
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:59:47pm |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:00:41pm |
re: #12 Fenway_Nation
Injury-riddled Angels look like they're having their way with the Yankees after lulling them into a false sense of security.....
BWA-HA HA!
Hell of a game last night. Lester is a major stud.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:01:01pm |
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:01:16pm |
re: #6 VegasRick
Updinged for using Pelosi and torture in the same sentence!
That fakey smile must be torture for her to endure.
It sure is torture watching it.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:01:57pm |
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:02:01pm |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:02:34pm |
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Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:02:37pm |
Panda twins 'settling in well':
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:03:21pm |
re: #18 SasquatchOnSteroids
That fakey smile must be torture for her to endure.
It sure is torture watching it.
with all the plastic surgery she's had, she can't NOT smile. her skin is tighter than a snare drums head!
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IslandLibertarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:03:31pm |
re: #4 SasquatchOnSteroids
The lawn isn't cut until the edging is done.
JMO.
you'll have no idea how blessed you were until you have no lawn to mow.
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stuck in california Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:03:34pm |
re: #19 sattv4u2
nope...just a poke at dan rather...from the memo-gate thing...
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:03:46pm |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:04:21pm |
re: #25 stuck in california
nope...just a poke at dan rather...from the memo-gate thing...
K , just wondrin! We (work) do a lot of work for them as well as all the others
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:04:35pm |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:05:54pm |
re: #24 IslandLibertarian
you'll have no idea how blessed you were until you have no lawn to mow.
BS , I LOVE mowing my lawn here outside of Atlanta, after 45 years of shoveling snow in Boston! I get on the riding mower , ahhhhhhhh! peaceful!
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:05:59pm |
re: #24 IslandLibertarian
you'll have no idea how blessed you were until you have no lawn to mow.
I can help you with that problem.
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:06:27pm |
re: #25 stuck in california
nope...just a poke at dan rather...from the memo-gate thing...
Hey! They the memos were accurate.....
but fake
/Dan Blather
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IslandLibertarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:07:19pm |
re: #21 sattv4u2
Hello boys , I've missed you!
"Gentlemen, we must protect our phony baloney jobs!"
/"0", Franks, Dodd, Biden.........
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spirochete Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:08:00pm |
Open thread. There are many like it but this one is ours.
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ladycatnip Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:08:48pm |
#5 itellu3times
Leftard lunch buddy of mine proudly announces on Thursday that Leon Panetta had after all agreed with Nancy Pelosi and validated her claims that the CIA had lied to her about torture etc.
I told leftard I'd have to read the report first.
Of course, the report said nothing like that. Someone had extorted a statement from someone else that yes the CIA had lied to someone about something, but very carefully mentioned neither Pelosi nor torture.
Good grief.
There had to have been a whole lot of somethin goin on behind the scenes to get Panetta's story to line up with Pelosi's. First we had a near blackout of this - just silence. Now it's time to bring it back up so Pelosi can be vindicated. I'm sure ABC would be happy to "give us the truth" like they did Obama checking out the rear of that teenager.
State-run media is so predictable.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:08:56pm |
re: #32 IslandLibertarian
"Gentlemen, we must protect our phony baloney jobs!"
/"0", Franks, Dodd, Biden.........
Damn, somebody has to go back and get a shitload of dimes !
/Joe, at the toll booth
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:09:12pm |
Rejoice, it is Saturday!
Congress is closed for business.
I support more days off for Democrats.
//
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IslandLibertarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:09:19pm |
re: #30 SasquatchOnSteroids
I can help you with that problem.
bring it on over.......I'll even rake and sweep.........no leaf blower BS here
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:09:33pm |
Got FNC on, talking about a small business bailout. Businesses with less than 500 employees. An idea here obambi, lay off the taxes for health care on people making above 250k, a lot of personal income in those brackets is small business income. Frackin' asshats.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:10:50pm |
re: #37 IslandLibertarian
bring it on over.......I'll even rake and sweep.........no leaf blower BS here
Saturday night and no grass.
What a bummer.
/
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:11:05pm |
re: #38 pingjockey
Got FNC on, talking about a small business bailout. Businesses with less than 500 employees. An idea here obambi, lay off the taxes for health care on people making above 250k, a lot of personal income in those brackets is small business income. Frackin' asshats.
Nationalize Small Business!
Now there's a plan!
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Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:11:41pm |
3 AM Eternal
KLF, also known as the Justified Ancients of Mu, with Extreme Noise Terror:
First time I've seen someone taking a machine gun on stage and firing it on the audience (he used blanks, of course).
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:11:48pm |
re: #36 Gus 802
Rejoice, it is Saturday!
Congress is closed for business.
I support more days off for Democrats.
//
Head out to any welfare office. It's choke full of democrat voters who have ALL their days off !
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Stuart Leviton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:11:53pm |
re: #2 jcm
Sensitivity Training for you!
[Video]
A great Penn & Teller. Thanks. I did not know Sensitivity training came from Kurt Lewin. I have long admired Lewin and his work ... and now to view Pt II of the P & T video where I might learn that even Lewin was not perfect.
Just to toss in for other readers. Lewin came up with the idea of "brief therapy" (dare I invite puns?) during WWII. The objective was to heal traumatized air pilots so they could climb back in the cockpit and continue their part defeating Hitler and the nasties.
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tradewind Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:12:17pm |
Here comes that camel's nose, slippin' under the Big Apple 's tent.......
[Link: newsweek.washingtonpost.com...]
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:12:49pm |
re: #38 pingjockey
Got FNC on, talking about a small business bailout. Businesses with less than 500 employees. An idea here obambi, lay off the taxes for health care on people making above 250k, a lot of personal income in those brackets is small business income. Frackin' asshats.
Asshat origin:
A combination of an ass which represents the Democratic Party's mascot, the donkey, and the hat worn by Democrat's during the Democratic National Convention.
Asshats.
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:13:01pm |
re: #42 sattv4u2
Head out to any welfare office. It's choke full of democrat voters who have ALL their days off !
Updinged for using democrat and choke in the same sentence!
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IslandLibertarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:13:20pm |
re: #38 pingjockey
Ping, stop making sense.
This is the socialist who said that he'd raise taxes on capital gains even thought it's been proven tax revenues GO UP when you lower capital gains taxes.
It's about his ideals. COMMUNIST! COLLECTIVE!
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:13:45pm |
re: #46 VegasRick
Updinged for using democrat and choke in the same sentence!
wow , talk about FREUDIAN !
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:14:01pm |
re: #40 jcm
Yep. That'll put us in a depression that'd make the Great Depression look like a pink tea party.
I'm sure the one and his advisors would think nationalizing small business would be a good thing. They have all these wonderful socialist theories and models to use. Of course they'll work. They haven't be tried by anyone as smart as the one and Rahm Emmanuel. ///////////////////
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IslandLibertarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:14:20pm |
re: #39 SasquatchOnSteroids
very clever..........pass the Dorito's..........
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:14:28pm |
re: #42 sattv4u2
Head out to any welfare office. It's choke full of democrat voters who have ALL their days off !
The welfare "clients" or the welfare gubernment workers?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:14:49pm |
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Stuart Leviton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:15:48pm |
re: #29 sattv4u2
BS , I LOVE mowing my lawn here outside of Atlanta, after 45 years of shoveling snow in Boston! I get on the riding mower , ahhhhhhhh! peaceful!
I love the smell of grass in the morning.
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:16:40pm |
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:17:01pm |
re: #51 IslandLibertarian
very clever..........pass the Dorito's..........
Doritos ?
Flamin' hot Cheetohs, my man.
Flamin'
Hot
Cheetohs.
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Capitalistincharge Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:17:08pm |
This is making it's way around the net. My mom sent it to me with the comment: Well, it's become a necessity I suppose.
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n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:17:17pm |
re: #42 sattv4u2
Head out to any welfare office. It's choke full of democrat voters who have ALL their days off !
It's Social Assistance Distributors, not welfare office.
It's concerned citizens that care the most, not democrat voters.
And days off are now refereed to as Funemployment.
Please, read the memos so nobody gets a complex.
Thank You
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:17:41pm |
re: #55 Stuart Leviton
What kind? No Cal sensimillia, Panama Red, Hawaiian, Thai sticks, BC Bud?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:18:11pm |
re: #55 Stuart Leviton
I love the smell of grass in the morning.
dude!
Actually , I do it early evening. My lawn is too damp here in the a.m. from the dew. By the time it drys off, mid morning, it's too hot outside
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IslandLibertarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:18:22pm |
re: #58 SasquatchOnSteroids
Doritos ?
Flamin' hot Cheetohs, my man.
Flamin'
Hot
Cheetohs.
well then, I'll need a ginger ale to go with those...........
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:18:34pm |
re: #54 pingjockey
Sounds logical to me.
Gracias. Next up. The symbolism of the Democrat Party and the donkey and the carrot on a stick.
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Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:19:03pm |
I wonder if Henrietta Hughe's life is much better now that the One is in office.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:19:29pm |
re: #60 n in wi
It's Social Assistance Distributors, not welfare office.
It's concerned citizens that care the most, not democrat voters.
And days off are now refereed to as Funemployment.
Please, read the memos so nobody gets a complex.
Thank You
I washed my face regularly and I still got pimples!
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:20:52pm |
re: #66 Shug
I wonder if Henrietta Hughe's life is much better now that the One is in office.
Or Julio Osegueda.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:20:52pm |
re: #66 Shug
I wonder if Henrietta Hughe's life is much better now that the One is in office.
as long as she "feels" like it is, thats what counts!
(I actually envision her going down to the bank/ mortgage company telling them "Barack is paying my mortgage now, right?")
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:20:56pm |
re: #63 IslandLibertarian
well then, I'll need a ginger ale to go with those...........
I can handle that.
Where are you at to not have any lawn work ?
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:22:19pm |
re: #69 sattv4u2
It is sad, but that is probably what she thought when she voted for the one. Her and a whole bunch of other knotheads.
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Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:23:08pm |
re: #69 sattv4u2
as long as she "feels" like it is, thats what counts!
(I actually envision her going down to the bank/ mortgage company telling them "Barack is paying my mortgage now, right?")
I think Obama is about as responsible with America's $$ as Mrs Hughes was with her own money
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Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:23:36pm |
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JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:24:12pm |
Hey ... I just figured it out that some days ... if you are the business owner ... you get paid about $3.25 per hour .... hahaha ... who do I report myself to? ... what czar? ...
Drinks on me! ...
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sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:24:19pm |
re: #71 pingjockey
It is sad, but that is probably what she thought when she voted for the one. Her and a whole bunch of other knotheads.
He had them all convinced that MAGICALLY the price of gas would go from $3.50 a gallon to $0.50. Their charge card bills would show up with a 0 balance.
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:24:47pm |
Mwahahahaha! GM is going to pay back the "loans" by 2015 and also go green. By building hybrids and such. Pssst....Hey US taxpayers, I've got a bridge for you, cheap.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:25:14pm |
re: #72 Shug
I think Obama is about as responsible with America's $$ as Mrs Hughes was with her own money
America's money ?
Oh, it's all his now.
/mineminemine
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:25:54pm |
re: #77 pingjockey
Mwahahahaha! GM is going to pay back the "loans" by 2015 and also go green. By building hybrids and such. Pssst....Hey US taxpayers, I've got a bridge for you, cheap.
Flying cars and male enhancement too!
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IslandLibertarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:26:00pm |
........"sucking at the hind tit of a dead cow".......
re: #70 SasquatchOnSteroids
...in an overpriced condo at the base of Diamond Head...lots of plans but no lawn to mow........
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:27:04pm |
re: #75 sattv4u2
LEFTY wants free stuff! Paid for by everybody else of course. Hey who is the jackass on Morning Joe who was a writer for the West Wing and a Klintoon staffer? He was going off about a special on the Lion of the Senate. You know, murderer and noted swimmer Ted Kennedy.
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quickjustice Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:27:17pm |
And now that the French government is more conservative then our own, Bastille Day, July 14, is coming up:
[Link: www.marseillaise.org...]
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:27:59pm |
bad mofo....I want a red one
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Viper story...
went to see Little feat in Palatine, outside of Chicago...after the gig we got in my car, jumped on a totally empty toll road, like six lanes wide...putting along a roar jolted me and out of nowhere and a car passed me on the left so fast it didn't even register...it shot away before my brain could compute...at that instant another roar and another car flew by....I have never seen any car in public moving so fast, probably close to 200mph...they disappeared in an instant through the lights like a flash...we drove a few miles and got off and pulled into out hotel and there in the lot were two Vipers sitting there with the owners talking and laughing....altho I'd never seen anything like it before it is quite common for the bigboys to get up on the toll roads and let er rip
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:28:15pm |
re: #80 IslandLibertarian
........"sucking at the hind tit of a dead cow".......
...in an overpriced condo at the base of Diamond Head...lots of plans but no lawn to mow........
Very pretty.
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Capitalistincharge Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:28:16pm |
The Small Business Loan Stimulus Bailout was introduced June 15th. I heard about it and immediately got all my paperwork together and went to see my business banker. The bank informed me that they had indeed been told they were available, unfortunately, they are still waiting for the government to publish the payout guidelines. I told them that in all my research I could not find anything on the pre-payment clause. My banker laughed and said that it was probably due to the fact that the govt came out with the loan plan and vague guidelines. As a result the banks can only qualify you for the loan but can't access the funds just yet. Oh and the cap is $35,000 for 6 months of credit/debt payments. You can't use it to buy inventory or hire, only reduce debt. I decided not to participate in what is going to be a disasterous boondoogle.
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:28:26pm |
re: #81 pingjockey
LEFTY wants free stuff! Paid for by everybody else of course. Hey who is the jackass on Morning Joe who was a writer for the West Wing and a Klintoon staffer? He was going off about a special on the Lion of the Senate. You know, murderer and noted swimmer Ted Kennedy.
The Lion liar of the Senate
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:28:48pm |
re: #71 pingjockey
It is sad, but that is probably what she thought when she voted for the one. Her and a whole bunch of other knotheads.
You think The One will get me a new dryer? I mean, I got kids and all and the motor died on my dryer! Not to mention the new bearings for the truck, the new bathroom I put in because of water damage. WHAAAAAAAAAA! Life is unfair! But The One promised me Hope and Change!
///
I got a new dryer motor arriving Monday, I'll do the work my self.
The bathroom is about done, I did it myself.
Didn't have time to do the truck bearings myself, I can, but a paid a mechanic to do that.
What the fuck happen to the American Spirit. CAN DO!
It's now whaaaaa i can't, I need the gubermint to give me!
*spit*
/rant off.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:29:13pm |
Had a kitchen appointment with a lady who was expecting to have her kitchen remodeled for free. Actually used the words "Obama" and "Free".
God help us all.
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:29:29pm |
Well just did a quick look at the FMSM. The front page news is all anti-Republican propaganda.
ABC -- Palin
CBS -- Cheney
MSNBC -- Cheney
SNAFU
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IslandLibertarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:29:49pm |
re: #70 SasquatchOnSteroids
I can handle that.
Where are you at to not have any lawn work ?
there's a lawn close by, but my taxes pay to have that mowed.........
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:30:11pm |
re: #89 Gus 802
Well just did a quick look at the FMSM. The front page news is all anti-Republican propaganda.
ABC -- Palin
CBS -- Cheney
MSNBC -- CheneySNAFU
Lip Lock.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:31:56pm |
re: #91 IslandLibertarian
there's a lawn close by, but my taxes pay to have that mowed.........
Well, hell, man, you've got it goin' on !
Enjoy NOT having to cut it.
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:32:04pm |
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:32:20pm |
Oh boy, I might have to look at paint dry. Newsweek has an article:
Is Obama More Catholic Than the Pope
They're fucking nuts.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:33:17pm |
re: #88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Had a kitchen appointment with a lady who was expecting to have her kitchen remodeled for free. Actually used the words "Obama" and "Free".
God help us all.
Simply Fucking Amazing.
I don't know how else to phrase it.
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:33:33pm |
re: #88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
No doubt. However, I am hitting the VA, VFW, TriCare and anybody else I can to help pay for my cancer treatment or it will be bankruptcy for this household if I don't get enough help. I don't want to do it, but have no damn choice. 1st bill came in, it was 1800 bucks, I owe 750 bucks, which is 50 bucks less than a two week pay check.
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ArchangelMichael Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:33:50pm |
re: #96 Gus 802
Oh boy, I might have to look at paint dry. Newsweek has an article:
Is Obama More Catholic Than the Pope
They're fucking nuts.
Obama Adoration Syndrome.
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IslandLibertarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:35:06pm |
re: #94 SasquatchOnSteroids
As a matter of fact, in half an hour I'll be heading over to that park to picnic with about 70 international students here learning English as a second language.
Diversity...........so kewl!
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:35:12pm |
re: #99 ArchangelMichael
Obama Adoration Syndrome.
Psychopaths. It was written by Kathleen Kennedy Townsend who's another nutcase. I think some folks had already mentioned this article.
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Stuart Leviton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:35:13pm |
re: #61 pingjockey
What kind? No Cal sensimillia, Panama Red, Hawaiian, Thai sticks, BC Bud?
blue grass for me, my friend.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:35:44pm |
I'm a little surprised at CNN- right now they're leading with a story about druge dealers ambushing police and soliders in Mexico.
I thought for sure it would be how the West African nation of Ghana has a tingle running up their collective legs because of the 0's visit.
Not sure if they're trying to use the recent assault in Mexico to press for gun control in the USA in the article- I havent' read that far ahead.
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The Shadow Do Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:36:14pm |
re: #82 quickjustice
Arise children of the fatherland
The day of glory has arrived
Against us tyranny's
Bloody standard is raised
Listen to the sound in the fields
The howling of these fearsome soldiers
They are coming into our midst
To cut the throats of your sons and consortsTo arms citizens Form your battalions
March, march
Let impure blood
Water our furrows...
Well, them Frenchies sure talk a good game...
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IslandLibertarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:36:22pm |
re: #97 SasquatchOnSteroids
Simply Fucking Amazing.
I don't know how else to phrase it.
I'd say "Part of the problem, not the solution."
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:36:33pm |
re: #102 Stuart Leviton
Heh. Was being silly! I planted some new grass to level out part of the yard and there is a volunteer gourd of some kind coming up!
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Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:36:49pm |
re: #96 Gus 802
Oh boy, I might have to look at paint dry. Newsweek has an article:
Is Obama More Catholic Than the Pope
They're fucking nuts.
How can she see the keyboard to type when her head is up his ass?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:36:56pm |
re: #98 pingjockey
Of course, Ping.
But, you come asking me to pay for your new kitchen, I'll tell you to fuck off!
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JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:37:51pm |
re: #97 SasquatchOnSteroids
Simply Fucking Amazing.
I don't know how else to phrase it.
SoS ... I said something the other day about many Obama supporters selling out for a stimulus check the other day and someone here said it was not the truth ... well, it is the truth as I have seen and heard ... some people cannot handle the truth ... oh well ....
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:38:07pm |
when the pressure turns up On BO to explain his way out of this mess, he will inspire a lot of bad blood by attacking conservatives...he will accuse us of hoping for failure and selfishly denying his achievements...he will turn it 180deg...bet me
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:38:28pm |
re: #107 Shug
How can she see the keyboard to type when her head is up his ass?
She probably doesn't see what she types both figuratively and literally. Newsweek is pure garbage. It's all DNC propaganda.
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:38:29pm |
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:38:41pm |
re: #98 pingjockey
No doubt. However, I am hitting the VA, VFW, TriCare and anybody else I can to help pay for my cancer treatment or it will be bankruptcy for this household if I don't get enough help. I don't want to do it, but have no damn choice. 1st bill came in, it was 1800 bucks, I owe 750 bucks, which is 50 bucks less than a two week pay check.
damn. I hope they step up.
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:38:51pm |
re: #108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Heh. The better half might though! Actually in two years, when the middle son is out of the house and the youngest is middle school, that's when we start remodeling the hell out of the house! She's already drawing up plans. God help me!
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:39:45pm |
re: #109 JacksonTn
SoS ... I said something the other day about many Obama supporters selling out for a stimulus check the other day and someone here said it was not the truth ... well, it is the truth as I have seen and heard ... some people cannot handle the truth ... oh well ....
Probably Avanti. Zero cred.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:39:52pm |
re: #100 IslandLibertarian
As a matter of fact, in half an hour I'll be heading over to that park to picnic with about 70 international students here learning English as a second language.
Diversity...........so kewl!
Sweet.
You gonna do the Robin Williams thing with 'em ?
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:40:10pm |
re: #110 albusteve
when the pressure turns up On BO to explain his way out of this mess, he will inspire a lot of bad blood by attacking conservatives...he will accuse us of hoping for failure and selfishly denying his achievements...he will turn it 180deg...bet me
Yep. He's already been making that claim. It will be said to the effect of "the reason for my failure is because of all of the naysayers out there."
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IslandLibertarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:40:11pm |
re: #110 albusteve
haven't you heard? He inherited the failed stimulus program.
"0" is blameless. A disaster. But blameless.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:40:37pm |
re: #88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Had a kitchen appointment with a lady who was expecting to have her kitchen remodeled for free. Actually used the words "Obama" and "Free".
God help us all.
FBV - that isn't a joke? It really happened? Recently?
Good grief.
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:41:14pm |
re: #88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Had a kitchen appointment with a lady who was expecting to have her kitchen remodeled for free. Actually used the words "Obama" and "Free".
God help us all.
What?
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JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:41:23pm |
re: #116 VegasRick
Probably Avanti. Zero cred.
VR ... no not Avanti ... another member of the fan club ...
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:41:33pm |
re: #113 SasquatchOnSteroids
Me too. However, I have no faith in the VA at all. We have an outpatient clinic here and last year when I was unemployed, no insurance etc...I went down there and was told I didn't qualify because I'd made too much money....the year before. So unless it's combat related disabilty or you are on a fixed income I doubt the VA will have anything to do with me.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:42:03pm |
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:42:15pm |
re: #114 pingjockey
Heh. The better half might though! Actually in two years, when the middle son is out of the house and the youngest is middle school, that's when we start remodeling the hell out of the house! She's already drawing up plans. God help me!
Well . . . you could just go get a new house. That's what I suggested to the Roi when I wanted to do a few things here and he balked.
right now, we just have a couple of things left to do.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:42:20pm |
re: #122 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Today, toots. Today.
where id she expect the money to come from?...nobody is that stupid
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:42:43pm |
| 129 |
VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:43:05pm |
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IslandLibertarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:43:06pm |
re: #117 SasquatchOnSteroids
Sweet.
You gonna do the Robin Williams thing with 'em ?
no, I'll be doing "the boyfriend of the Dept. of Student Services Manager" thing......and flirting with the cute Asian ladies........... got to be careful.........
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:43:07pm |
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:43:24pm |
re: #115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Thanks. We'll get through this. It just sucks. My oldest graduated, got him fixed up with a car and that is about all the help he can expect right now. The youngest doesn't understand wh we can't get pizza as much as we used to, just sucks ass.
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:44:03pm |
re: #129 VegasRick
Smell the same too.
That from being close to the ground all the time licking the boot.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:44:11pm |
re: #122 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Today, toots. Today.
I'm speechless.
Just speechless.
How did this person think you were going to get the materials, pay the workers - or was all of that going to be free, too?
and then, of course, all of you could then get in line for your freebies - hey, that might work! /
/
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:44:13pm |
re: #131 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
From the gubment, man. It's free that way.
Seriously.
and she expected you to make that arrangement?...I would have played her like a fiddle
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:44:30pm |
re: #126 reine.de.tout
Haha! Thas has been discussed too. Downsize the better half says.
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:45:04pm |
re: #130 IslandLibertarian
no, I'll be doing "the boyfriend of the Dept. of Student Services Manager" thing......
and flirting with the cute Asian ladies...........got to be careful.........
You're gonna do the boyfriend?
/
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:45:12pm |
The ROP shows it's gutter face again, and the target was a Russian no less, but what do they know.
Death to......(add name here)
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:45:19pm |
re: #124 pingjockey
Me too. However, I have no faith in the VA at all. We have an outpatient clinic here and last year when I was unemployed, no insurance etc...I went down there and was told I didn't qualify because I'd made too much money....the year before. So unless it's combat related disabilty or you are on a fixed income I doubt the VA will have anything to do with me.
Shit.
You and RW, fallin' in the cracks. Vets, upstanding citizens. Meanwhile in Seattle they spent $166 million a mile for light rail no one will use because it doesn't go from where people are to where they work, and it doesn't have parking. They spent $20 fucking million on a apartment for drunks to have a place to drink. The list goes on and on, wasted resources, wasted money.
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:46:29pm |
re: #127 albusteve
Really? How much do you want to bet/lose? Was driving by the DSHS building the other day. I have never seen so many Avalanches, Escalades, Navigators in one parking lot. Not the employees either.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:46:38pm |
re: #136 pingjockey
Haha! Thas has been discussed too. Downsize the better half says.
Heh.
We're already downsized. I was looking to upsize just a teensy bit.
I've settled for "update" instead of "upsize"; he's settled for spending a bit of money rather than - not spending any money. It's good all the way around.
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Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:46:55pm |
Is Newsweek still in print?
Not joking.
I hadn't noticed it for quite some time.
Thought they folded.
not long I'll bet, unless the Soros-Obama-Pelosi ( SOAP for short) corporation bails them out
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:46:57pm |
re: #140 jcm
Shit.
You and RW, fallin' in the cracks. Vets, upstanding citizens. Meanwhile in Seattle they spent $166 million a mile for light rail no one will use because it doesn't go from where people are to where they work, and it doesn't have parking. They spent $20 fucking million on a apartment for drunks to have a place to drink. The list goes on and on, wasted resources, wasted money.
Let me guess. The apartment building was part of an urban redevelopment scheme and now it's filled with 20 something urban liberal drunkards?
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ShanghaiEd Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:47:07pm |
re: #109 JacksonTn
SoS ... I said something the other day about many Obama supporters selling out for a stimulus check the other day and someone here said it was not the truth ... well, it is the truth as I have seen and heard ... some people cannot handle the truth ... oh well ....
Just when I think I'm out, she pul-l-l-lls me back in. :)
Hi, jackson! Always good to see you. If you're talking about the conversation you and I had, you're mischaracterizing it completely. We were talking about the particular facts in a USA Today article, and I said some of them were contradictory. Talking strictly about data, not ideology.
Never have I disputed what you say in this note. You don't think I'm that stupid, do you? If you do, I need to be more careful in my phrasing.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:47:28pm |
re: #140 jcm
I'll be convinced that government run health care can work once they fix the VA.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:47:41pm |
re: #135 albusteve
Education level was non-existent. She had no clue... no idea... just lookin' for the free shit.
We had a 7:30 appointment. She has been waiting for me since 7:30 this morning for a 7:30PM appointment. I feel so bad for this woman.
Ignorant and poor... it's how we keep the wheels spinning in place.
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IslandLibertarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:47:50pm |
re: #137 VegasRick
You're gonna do the boyfriend?
/
that was set up right over the plate and you slammed it out of the park..................
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Stuart Leviton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:47:54pm |
re: #106 pingjockey
Heh. Was being silly! I planted some new grass to level out part of the yard and there is a volunteer gourd of some kind coming up!
Follow the drinking gourd, my friend.
I embarrass myself for joking about smoking (weed) even though I haven't even inhaled for decades. I unfortunately am spacey enough (with ptsd) as several have figured out (when they attempt to straighten out some of my more confused posts).
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:48:16pm |
re: #143 Shug
Is Newsweek still in print?
Not joking.
I hadn't noticed it for quite some time.
Thought they folded.not long I'll bet, unless the Soros-Obama-Pelosi ( SOAP for short) corporation bails them out
Not out of business. You can get a subscription for 108 issues for $70.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:48:17pm |
re: #141 pingjockey
Really? How much do you want to bet/lose? Was driving by the DSHS building the other day. I have never seen so many Avalanches, Escalades, Navigators in one parking lot. Not the employees either.
I don't live around that kind of stuff...I'm skeptical
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:49:41pm |
re: #140 jcm
That light rail was a black hole for money the day it started. Me and RW have one big problem. We try and take care of ourselves, work hard, don't suck at the gov't tit. Like most lizards we feel you take care of yourself, or try to. The money that is spent on social welfare has been going to the same people for 3 or 4 generations and they know how to game the system. Honest lizards do not.
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CynicalConservative Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:49:59pm |
re: #146 Killgore Trout
I'll be convinced that government run health care can work once they fix the VA.
that should be shortly after the sun burns out.
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:50:15pm |
re: #144 Gus 802
Let me guess. The apartment building was part of an urban redevelopment scheme and now it's filled with 20 something urban liberal drunkards?
Homeless Alcoholics Receive a Permanent Place to Live, and Drink
It's been a money pit.
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:50:18pm |
re: #142 reine.de.tout
Good for y'all. Don't work him too hard!
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:50:21pm |
re: #141 pingjockey
Really? How much do you want to bet/lose? Was driving by the DSHS building the other day. I have never seen so many Avalanches, Escalades, Navigators in one parking lot. Not the employees either.
Back when I was seeing a friend that lived in NW Denver where there were a lot lower income people from south of the border I could never figure out why there were so many Escalades on the street.
| 158 |
VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:50:28pm |
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:50:48pm |
re: #147 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Education level was non-existent. She had no clue... no idea... just lookin' for the free shit.
We had a 7:30 appointment. She has been waiting for me since 7:30 this morning for a 7:30PM appointment. I feel so bad for this woman.
Ignorant and poor... it's how we keep the wheels spinning in place.
my kitchen remodels were 40-50K and up...poor, ignorant people were somebody else's customers I guess
| 160 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:51:10pm |
re: #153 pingjockey
That light rail was a black hole for money the day it started. Me and RW have one big problem. We try and take care of ourselves, work hard, don't suck at the gov't tit. Like most lizards we feel you take care of yourself, or try to. The money that is spent on social welfare has been going to the same people for 3 or 4 generations and they know how to game the system. Honest lizards do not.
Honest lizards who have earned benefits through their service, do not know how to game the system.
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:51:54pm |
re: #155 jcm
Homeless Alcoholics Receive a Permanent Place to Live, and Drink
It's been a money pit.
Jeez. That's like a modern day opium den. Only in this case it's gubernment operated and it isn't opium but booze.
| 162 |
Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:52:19pm |
re: #140 jcm
Shit.
You and RW, fallin' in the cracks. Vets, upstanding citizens. Meanwhile in Seattle they spent $166 million a mile for light rail no one will use because it doesn't go from where people are to where they work, and it doesn't have parking. They spent $20 fucking million on a apartment for drunks to have a place to drink. The list goes on and on, wasted resources, wasted money.
Listen, I'm a landlord and I have tenants paid for by taxes. I'm not complaining, the rent is guaranteed and at a better rate than the unemployed can afford, and the tenants are mostly decent people, meaning single moms with 2 or 3 kids or more.
But I can't help but think that it would have saved millions, billions, if they had been paid for family planning and free birth control to begin with......
but some would think that is a discriminatory and even racist attitude.
(
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:52:40pm |
re: #160 reine.de.tout
Honest lizards who have earned benefits through their service, do not know how to game the system.
Earned. Damn straight.
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:53:04pm |
re: #160 reine.de.tout
Honest lizards who have earned benefits through their service,
do notSHOULD NOT NEED TO know how to game the system.
| 165 |
IslandLibertarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:53:09pm |
re: #158 VegasRick
Nice recovery!
if you can't laugh at yourself on occasion, well, God help ya........
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:53:09pm |
re: #151 albusteve
Wenatchee, WA. drove past it Friday morning. The wife had some experience with the system when she was a single mother of 2. They, DSHS gave her a stack of paperwork to fill out. Meanwhile the lady behind her in line, noncitizen, non english speaker was given CASH! I saw this happen in San Diego too.
| 169 |
realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:54:29pm |
re: #166 pingjockey
Hey ping! Just dropped in to see what was on LGF and what do I find, my friend pingjockey!
How are you doing amigo?
| 170 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:55:01pm |
re: #167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You were a Kitchen guy?
sure...all remodel...was very good at putting second floors on...did alot of those
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:55:47pm |
re: #166 pingjockey
Wenatchee, WA. drove past it Friday morning. The wife had some experience with the system when she was a single mother of 2. They, DSHS gave her a stack of paperwork to fill out. Meanwhile the lady behind her in line, noncitizen, non english speaker was given CASH! I saw this happen in San Diego too.
And they wonder why we're pissed.
| 173 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:56:18pm |
re: #169 realwest
Not too shabby. Hotter'n hell today. 100 in the shade. We did the PET scan this morning, so now I'm radioactive! How are you doing my friend?
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realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:57:11pm |
re: #171 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Who?
;')
How are ya FBV? And a shout out to all my fellow LGFer's!
| 175 |
VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:57:43pm |
| 176 |
gatorbait Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:58:10pm |
In a NY Times interview to be published tomorrow, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, is quoted as follows:
Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion.
Forgive me, Justice Ginsberg, but this opinion seems in keeping with a policy of eugenics, IE, kill the offspring of undesirables before birth.
God help us.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:58:41pm |
re: #174 realwest
Who?
;')
How are ya FBV? And a shout out to all my fellow LGFer's!
Hope the day has found you well, Hero.
| 179 |
realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:59:25pm |
re: #173 pingjockey
I be a tad anxious as I'm getting blood pulled on Tuesday for latest cancer (PSA) scan and getting the results by phone on Wednesday morning - EARLY on Wednesday morning!
How'd things go with the PET Scan? And now that your radioactive, can you be your own night light case y'all gotta get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom or something?
When do y'all get the results of the PET Scan?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:00:04pm |
I'm getting nervous. Does LGF cause cancer?
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:00:05pm |
re: #153 pingjockey
That light rail was a black hole for money the day it started. Me and RW have one big problem. We try and take care of ourselves, work hard, don't suck at the gov't tit. Like most lizards we feel you take care of yourself, or try to. The money that is spent on social welfare has been going to the same people for 3 or 4 generations and they know how to game the system. Honest lizards do not.
You ought to see the waste and inefficency in WA's DSHS (Dept. Social & Health Services) as a foster parent I see it up close.
Just cleaning that goddamn mess up would free up the funds to help folks who really need it, not lazy SOBs gaming the system or who haven't learn how to get a job and make a buck for themselves.
RW is a combat vet from 'Nam. We owe him a lot.
You served not just a tour but a lot longer IIRC. We owe you.
What do we owe a high school dropout who does drugs and drops babies into the system, both the sperm donor and recipient? Besides a hard slap upside the head and tell them to get their shit together?
It's more charitable to set someone straight than let them continue on a path of self destruction.
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realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:01:05pm |
re: #177 SasquatchOnSteroids Hero? Wha.....!
If there's one thing I'm NOT it's a hero!
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JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:01:11pm |
re: #145 ShanghaiEd
Just when I think I'm out, she pul-l-l-lls me back in. :)
Hi, jackson! Always good to see you. If you're talking about the conversation you and I had, you're mischaracterizing it completely. We were talking about the particular facts in a USA Today article, and I said some of them were contradictory. Talking strictly about data, not ideology.
Never have I disputed what you say in this note. You don't think I'm that stupid, do you? If you do, I need to be more careful in my phrasing.
SE ...
re: #341 JacksonTn
SE ... I don't care who sent them money before - ...I am just saying that the same voters sold their votes for the stimulus check they received ... simple as that ... same type of person ... don't care if you don't like what I have to say about some Obama supporters but it is the truth ... I'll tell ya ...
ShanghaiEd sez …
jackson, unless you have information to prove something, it's an assumption, not "the truth." I certainly don't down-ding you for saying that though, and I don't find it offensive that your opinion differs from mine. What did you find offensive about my post?
The last time I slipped up here and said something was "the truth," a fellow named red very aptly called my hand on it, and asked me "Has somebody appointed you the unquestioned arbiter of the facts?" I apologized to him, and I've been careful not to use "the truth" again when I'm referring to my opinion. Does that sound reasonable to you?
JacksonTn sez …
SE ... it is the truth that many Obama supporters voted for him just to get their hands a friggin stimulus check ...
Oh, and I see the early morning stroke fest has begun ... I tell ya ...
Don't care what you post or what your standards are for posting ... I post what I want and it stands unless Charles sees fit to delete it ... I ding up or down as I want and I do not have to explain to anyone why I do it ...
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
During the campaign and since many supporters have claimed that Obama is going to "buy" them stuff ... with other peoples money! ... the truth ...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:01:41pm |
re: #184 realwest
We'll file that under b. for baloney!
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:01:41pm |
re: #179 realwest
Pet scan results Tuesday, then we can hopefully get the damn treatment started! Not enough radioactivity in the glucose, I guess to glow in the dark! Haven't heard of the PSA test.
How's your jaw/teeth?
| 189 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:04:15pm |
re: #187 pingjockey
Pet scan results Tuesday, then we can hopefully get the damn treatment started! Not enough radioactivity in the glucose, I guess to glow in the dark! Haven't heard of the PSA test.
How's your jaw/teeth?
Enough radioactivity to give you the ability to climb walls, or shoot lasers out of your eyes?
/I know, it's enough radioactivity to make you throw up, but I'm just looking for the silver lining.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:04:26pm |
re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
We'll file that under b. for baloney!
it means different things to different people....my BIL won some medals etc but he vigorously resisted the hero label...of course that didn't matter to me
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pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:04:49pm |
RW, all you other fine lizards, I'll be back later. The youngest asked most politely if he could have a turn on the 'puter. Due to the nicety of the request I'm gonna let him. He goes to you tube for lego and Transformers videos.
BBIAB!
BTW...I love you folks.
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ShanghaiEd Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:05:33pm |
re: #176 gatorbait
In a NY Times interview to be published tomorrow, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, is quoted as follows:
Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion.
Forgive me, Justice Ginsberg, but this opinion seems in keeping with a policy of eugenics, IE, kill the offspring of undesirables before birth.
God help us.
That is disturbing. Does Ginsberg say she favored this line of thinking, or is she just observing that it was there?
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realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:05:35pm |
re: #183 jcm Hey jcm my friend. Y'all don't owe me anything. I enlisted - wasn't drafted - and did it cause I felt I owed something back to my country. Period, end of story.
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tradewind Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:06:06pm |
re: #103 Fenway_Nation
I read that the crowds in Ghana were meh......
MSNBC had been anticipating a breathless crush, but not so much.
They have other things to do.
Diamonds to mine, goats to milk.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:07:26pm |
re: #184 realwest
Hero? Wha.....!
If there's one thing I'm NOT it's a hero!
I disagree. You served. Pingjockey served. A lot of lizards serve/are serving.
I have my criteria for a hero.
You guys are 2 of them.
'nuff said.
I just wish you good health.
| 197 |
realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:07:45pm |
re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian You can file it under S for salami if you want to, but I didn't do anything heroic at all. Just kept my head down and did my job.
| 199 |
jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:08:30pm |
re: #162 Naso Tang
Listen, I'm a landlord and I have tenants paid for by taxes. I'm not complaining, the rent is guaranteed and at a better rate than the unemployed can afford, and the tenants are mostly decent people, meaning single moms with 2 or 3 kids or more.
But I can't help but think that it would have saved millions, billions, if they had been paid for family planning and free birth control to begin with......
but some would think that is a discriminatory and even racist attitude.
(
I'm a pretty charitable guy. I'll help folks who need it. But I also think people need to take responsibility. A lot of the current welfare system enables, it does nothing to help folks out.
Our current foster daughter has been in the system for 10 months. Her mom has 3 kids, custody of none. For those 10 months mom has refused to partake in court ordered drug treatment and parent services. By State law and standing court orders against the State they have 18 months to resolve a case. This is in the best interest of the child to bring stability to the child. After 10 months the plan is still for reunification. Mom has failed twice and is not cooperating in making any progress. It's costing money, resources and time, as well as instability of the child.
No one is being helped. Vital resources wasted. And a child's life is in limbo.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:09:20pm |
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realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:09:57pm |
re: #187 pingjockey
On Tuesday! Damn I'm gonna be double dutypraying then: first for you, then for me!
Hang in there!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:10:10pm |
I liked Obama better when I thought he stared at that girl's ass (btw).
| 203 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:11:48pm |
I won't back down ... gonna stand my ground ...
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:12:10pm |
re: #202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I liked Obama better when I thought he stared at that girl's ass (btw).
And then she turned around....
| 206 |
Ojoe Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:12:34pm |
Fix the economy you MF Democratic morons.
Obama in Africa says:
"No country is going to create wealth if its leaders exploit the economy to enrich themselves...
Apply that here, and quit strutting around in other countried trying to look like Mussolini.
/fuming
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:12:59pm |
re: #202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I liked Obama better when I thought he stared at that girl's ass (btw).
I liked him better when I only thought he was a socialist.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:13:29pm |
re: #199 jcm
No one is being helped.
Right now, she is being helped by you.
I admire people who do these things for the "least of these".
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realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:13:31pm |
Well y'all gotta go eat some dinner - hope you all have a great evening and that I get the chance to see you all down the road tonight!
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pat Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:13:38pm |
Obama says that stimulus working as planned.
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
"Well Ollie, what are we going to do now?"
When the entire Western press covers you, the most idiotic statements by this dolt are taken as real.
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:13:48pm |
re: #207 VegasRick
I liked him better when I only thought he was a socialist.
I thought it was great back when I never heard of him.
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realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:14:39pm |
re: #208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Right now, she is being helped by you.
I admire people who do these things for the "least of these".
Hadda come back and say Damn Straight!.
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OldLineTexan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:14:46pm |
re: #207 VegasRick
I liked him better when I only thought he was a socialist.
Ooh, our resident lefties are going to be very angry with you. Very angry indeed.
Careful they don't aim an Illudium Q-38 strongly-worded letter at you.
/
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:15:38pm |
re: #193 ShanghaiEd
That is disturbing. Does Ginsberg say she favored this line of thinking, or is she just observing that it was there?
No, no no.
Context -- full interview, peeps. She was worried prior to the enactment of Roe that Roe would be used to force poor women to choose abortion via Medicaid.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:15:57pm |
when my BIL looks back into his picture collection from the war it's like this...typical group shots or whatever...always at least two buddies...some are typical rucks and web gear and weapons, armor in the background...a VC flag here and there...just like Hollywood....circa 66-67
but when he explains the pictures it's always "that's Joe, he's down in Atlanta now....here Bob, he lost an arm and sells cars in Neb....there's so and so, he was killed two weeks later....Frank here we saw two years ago out in CA"....it's ALWAYS about the guys...not we shot up this village or had this body count...it's his mates, every time...he's kept up...for alot of men it's a brotherhood and they are not bothered with medals or heroics....jsut my observation of one man
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:16:00pm |
re: #214 OldLineTexan
Ooh, our resident lefties are going to be very angry with you. Very angry indeed.
Careful they don't aim an Illudium Q-38 strongly-worded letter at you.
/
While I appreciate the vigorous debate, I am deeply troubled.
//
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:16:05pm |
re: #194 realwest
Hey jcm my friend. Y'all don't owe me anything. I enlisted - wasn't drafted - and did it cause I felt I owed something back to my country. Period, end of story.
That's just the point my friend.
You did you duty. Both in the military and in life and ask for nothing.
To many ask for everything and do nothing.
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realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:16:31pm |
re: #199 jcm
I'm a pretty charitable guy. I'll help folks who need it. But I also think people need to take responsibility. A lot of the current welfare system enables, it does nothing to help folks out.
Our current foster daughter has been in the system for 10 months. Her mom has 3 kids, custody of none. For those 10 months mom has refused to partake in court ordered drug treatment and parent services. By State law and standing court orders against the State they have 18 months to resolve a case. This is in the best interest of the child to bring stability to the child. After 10 months the plan is still for reunification. Mom has failed twice and is not cooperating in making any progress. It's costing money, resources and time, as well as instability of the child.
No one is being helped. Vital resources wasted. And a child's life is in limbo.
Hey my friend, you're one of my heros.
Now I'm outta here!
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:16:44pm |
re: #214 OldLineTexan
Ooh, our resident lefties are going to be very angry with you. Very angry indeed.
Careful they don't aim an Illudium Q-38 strongly-worded letter at you.
/
All I can say is - "So Sorry!"
*NOT
Fuck them!
*Is Mandy here to post "The Quote"
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:17:03pm |
re: #164 VegasRick
Honest lizards who have earned benefits through their service, do not SHOULD NOT NEED TO know how to game the system.
Much better.
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Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:17:54pm |
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:18:15pm |
re: #218 iceweasel
No, no no.
Context -- full interview, peeps. She was worried prior to the enactment of Roe that Roe would be used to force poor women to choose abortion via Medicaid.
These are the words I find disturbing:
. . . particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of . . .
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:18:42pm |
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:19:22pm |
re: #203 JacksonTn
he was a mighty brave man with a heart of steel
Brother John is gone
and he never would bow and he never would kneel
Brother John is gone
Neville Brothers 'Brother John'
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OldLineTexan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:19:25pm |
Last night, at the wife's 5th-grade reunion (a pre-event for her 30th HS reunion), I got to visit with two "girls" I haven't seen in almost thirty years.
I once had crushes on both of them.
They're still beautiful.
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ShanghaiEd Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:19:50pm |
re: #185 JacksonTn
SE ...
re: #341 JacksonTn
SE ... I don't care who sent them money before - ...I am just saying that the same voters sold their votes for the stimulus check they received ... simple as that ... same type of person ... don't care if you don't like what I have to say about some Obama supporters but it is the truth ... I'll tell ya ...ShanghaiEd sez …
jackson, unless you have information to prove something, it's an assumption, not "the truth." I certainly don't down-ding you for saying that though, and I don't find it offensive that your opinion differs from mine. What did you find offensive about my post?
The last time I slipped up here and said something was "the truth," a fellow named red very aptly called my hand on it, and asked me "Has somebody appointed you the unquestioned arbiter of the facts?" I apologized to him, and I've been careful not to use "the truth" again when I'm referring to my opinion. Does that sound reasonable to you?JacksonTn sez …
SE ... it is the truth that many Obama supporters voted for him just to get their hands a friggin stimulus check ...
Oh, and I see the early morning stroke fest has begun ... I tell ya ...Don't care what you post or what your standards are for posting ... I post what I want and it stands unless Charles sees fit to delete it ... I ding up or down as I want and I do not have to explain to anyone why I do it ...
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
During the campaign and since many supporters have claimed that Obama is going to "buy" them stuff ... with other peoples money! ... the truth ...
Jackson: I hate to quibble, but that's what facts are about.
Your first note said "the same voters"...meaning all the millions of people referenced in the USA Today article we were discussing. I said, then, that you have no way of knowing that.
All your notes today say "some voters"...which is very reasonable, backed by anecdotal evidence here and elsewhere, and clearly "the truth." If you think I have a problem that, you take me for stupid, which I'm not.
You have no idea what my ideology is. I quibble over words, because they're the only way I can tell what someone is actually saying. "Same" is not "some." If you'd prefer I not comment on your posts period, all it takes is one request. Seriously.
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OldLineTexan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:20:09pm |
re: #227 HoosierHoops
What up? I just turned on racing from Chicago...
Damn, a new Senate campaign already?
/////
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JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:21:09pm |
re: #233 ShanghaiEd
Jackson: I hate to quibble, but that's what facts are about.
Your first note said "the same voters"...meaning all the millions of people referenced in the USA Today article we were discussing. I said, then, that you have no way of knowing that.
All your notes today say "some voters"...which is very reasonable, backed by anecdotal evidence here and elsewhere, and clearly "the truth." If you think I have a problem that, you take me for stupid, which I'm not.
You have no idea what my ideology is. I quibble over words, because they're the only way I can tell what someone is actually saying. "Same" is not "some." If you'd prefer I not comment on your posts period, all it takes is one request. Seriously.
SE ... again ...
Don't care what you post or what your standards are for posting ... I post what I want and it stands unless Charles sees fit to delete it ... I ding up or down as I want and I do not have to explain to anyone why I do it ...
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Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:21:18pm |
re: #234 OldLineTexan
Damn, a new Senate campaign already?
/////
A NASCAR race in Chicago? A dead guy will probably win....
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:21:18pm |
re: #231 albusteve
Not truly relevant, but...the other day, I saw the monument to John Henry (the steel drivin' man) the other day in WV.
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:21:44pm |
re: #227 HoosierHoops
What up? I just turned on racing from Chicago...
I'm grumpy.
Guys like Ping and RW are getting the shaft and we throw money away like there's no tomorrow.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:22:35pm |
re: #220 albusteve
when my BIL looks back into his picture collection from the war it's like this...typical group shots or whatever...always at least two buddies...some are typical rucks and web gear and weapons, armor in the background...a VC flag here and there...just like Hollywood....circa 66-67
but when he explains the pictures it's always "that's Joe, he's down in Atlanta now....here Bob, he lost an arm and sells cars in Neb....there's so and so, he was killed two weeks later....Frank here we saw two years ago out in CA"....it's ALWAYS about the guys...not we shot up this village or had this body count...it's his mates, every time...he's kept up...for alot of men it's a brotherhood and they are not bothered with medals or heroics....jsut my observation of one man
Same with my FIL. LAst trip down there (Charleston, SC) we went to the aquarium and the Military museum, they had a ton of memorabilia, uniforms from Rev war all the way up. He gets talking to one of the guys there about Vietnam. Just listening was fascinating. Best part of the trip.
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JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:22:42pm |
Beyond Here Lies Nothing ... Bob ...
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pat Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:23:19pm |
re: #227 HoosierHoops
Get a load of this>
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]
Cap and Trade Kirk gets no GOP support because of his vote.
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:23:25pm |
re: #223 realwest
Hey my friend, you're one of my heros.
Now I'm outta here!
I get paid, paid in something far more valuable than anything I can think of. I get that smile every day.........
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pat Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:24:13pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:24:16pm |
re: #224 VegasRick
All I can say is - "So Sorry!"
*NOT
Fuck them!
*Is Mandy here to post "The Quote"
It's like fine perfume: used in small doses.
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:24:17pm |
re: #228 reine.de.tout
These are the words I find disturbing:
. . . particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of . . .
I'm looking for a link to the full interview. I don't like this implication either, believe me, but the context of the full interview does make clear that what she was talking about was a worry that Roe would mean poor women on medicaid being harried into choosing abortion.
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:24:19pm |
re: #227 HoosierHoops
What up? I just turned on racing from Chicago...
re: #234 OldLineTexan
Damn, a new Senate campaign already?
/////
"racing" Chicago style - using "race" to instill fear in voters that if they in anyway disagree with a candidate of "race" said person will be referred to as a racist and sued by rev's jackson and sharpton.
*racing
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:24:34pm |
re: #238 jcm
I'm grumpy.
Guys like Ping and RW are getting the shaft and we throw money away like there's no tomorrow.
think of what legislators give themselves....hundreds of millions in peddling...fat cats who cut deals for influence and votes...on and on...it's criminal
| 249 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:24:55pm |
re: #240 MandyManners
Here comes the invasion! Grand Fenwick takes New York City. Not one man lost!
| 250 |
PSGInfinity Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:25:15pm |
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Mithrax Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:25:17pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:25:32pm |
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:25:48pm |
re: #247 VegasRick
"racing" Chicago style - using "race" to instill fear in voters that if they in anyway disagree with a candidate of "race" said person will be referred to as a racist and sued by rev's jackson and sharpton.
*racing
And they only turn left
//
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MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:26:51pm |
re: #233 ShanghaiEd
Quibbling here? At LGF? Surely, you jest.
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:27:13pm |
re: #248 albusteve
think of what legislators give themselves....hundreds of millions in peddling...fat cats who cut deals for influence and votes...on and on...it's criminal
Madoff got 2¼ years for every billion.
If we applied the same standard to congress........
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:27:44pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:27:52pm |
re: #247 VegasRick
"racing" Chicago style - using "race" to instill fear in voters that if they in anyway disagree with a candidate of "race" said person will be referred to as a racist and sued by rev's jackson and sharpton.
*racing
Only a lily-livered liberal will be scared.
| 259 |
Kronocide Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:27:58pm |
Is Michale Jackson dead? I heard a tidbit on Art Bell the other week....
| 260 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:28:26pm |
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:28:39pm |
re: #259 BigPapa
Is Michale Jackson dead? I heard a tidbit on Art Bell the other week....
Publicity stunt to sell records and get out of debt.
////
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ShanghaiEd Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:29:19pm |
re: #235 JacksonTn
SE ... again ...
Don't care what you post or what your standards are for posting ... I post what I want and it stands unless Charles sees fit to delete it ... I ding up or down as I want and I do not have to explain to anyone why I do it ...
jackson: Again...
your #109 referred to the conversation you and I had yesterday, though you omitted my name. I responded, to point out the conversation was unfairly characterized. You change the subject.
How about a deal...you don't refer to me in your posts, I'll not reply to yours. Would that make life simpler for you?
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:29:35pm |
re: #233 ShanghaiEd
You have no idea what my ideology is. I quibble over words, because they're the only way I can tell what someone is actually saying. "Same" is not "some." If you'd prefer I not comment on your posts period, all it takes is one request. Seriously.
Kudos to you, Ed, for hanging in there. Hint: she doesn't want your answers and will not accept them. When you provide good ones she will ignore them. She will inform you that she doesn't want to hear anything from you ever again-- but she will retain the right to periodically demand to know who you voted for, how many elections you've voted in, and to randomly ask other intrusive questions.
But none of your answers will ever matter.
YES, you should ignore her. And then continue to ignore her when she decides at whim to query you again.
At least, that's what she does with me. You're far more charming than I, so there you go. :)
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:29:43pm |
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PSGInfinity Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:29:55pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:29:55pm |
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MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:30:30pm |
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:30:40pm |
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:30:42pm |
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PSGInfinity Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:30:59pm |
re: #259 BigPapa
Is Michale Jackson dead? I heard a tidbit on Art Bell the other week....
Someone's gonna have to explain Art to you...
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Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:31:12pm |
re: #146 Killgore Trout
I'll be convinced that government run health care can work once they fix the VA.
well said
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OldLineTexan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:31:34pm |
re: #246 iceweasel
I'm looking for a link to the full interview. I don't like this implication either, believe me, but the context of the full interview does make clear that what she was talking about was a worry that Roe would mean poor women on medicaid being harried into choosing abortion.
I thought Republicans hated and loathed the poor and minorities ... but surely they would oppose abortion ... so, even if "in context" ... which group of Ginsburg's fellow travellers on the Left does she distrust to that degree?
Or do the right-wing extremists only bomb the whites-only abortion clinics?
/partial
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:31:35pm |
re: #262 ShanghaiEd
haha-- I notice she's already started downdinging you merely for asking polite questions, in lieu of answering you.
Welcome.
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MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:31:37pm |
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:31:54pm |
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Kronocide Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:31:58pm |
re: #265 PSGInfinity
And a full-blown kerfuffle after that!
It's an 'above my pay grade' waffle stampede.
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MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:32:44pm |
re: #278 Gus 802
Accompanied by a great deal of discombobulation!
Will someone get her knickers in a twist?
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:32:45pm |
re: #255 MandyManners
What's next? A squabble?
Squabbling at LGF? *blink* *blink*
That'd be like gambling at Rick's, surely. :)
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ShanghaiEd Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:33:04pm |
re: #263 iceweasel
You're far more charming than I, so there you go. :)
Hey, it's a curse. :)
I do thank you for the good advice, though.
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OldLineTexan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:33:13pm |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:33:20pm |
Good afternoon, lizards. Thought this was the afternoon open but guess it's just a continuation of the FNDT.
| 287 |
Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:33:47pm |
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n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:33:51pm |
Meanwhile back at the ranch,or at least Janesville,Wi. the GM plant will stay closed while the work will go to Michigan. Do you suppose the fact that the Janesville congressional district is represented by Paul Ryan[R]?
I do. I also expect to see a lot of "stimulus" money go to where ever votes are needed in 2010 and 2012.
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MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:34:11pm |
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JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:34:54pm |
re: #276 iceweasel
haha-- I notice she's already started downdinging you merely for asking polite questions, in lieu of answering you.
Welcome.
IW ... way over there ... here is my answer ... not so smart as you but I think it says it all ... oh, yeah, I am not mature ... not at all ..
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:35:04pm |
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:35:06pm |
re: #232 OldLineTexan
Last night, at the wife's 5th-grade reunion (a pre-event for her 30th HS reunion), I got to visit with two "girls" I haven't seen in almost thirty years.
I once had crushes on both of them.
They're still beautiful.
That's lovely. :)
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OldLineTexan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:35:09pm |
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:35:14pm |
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:35:45pm |
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Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:36:28pm |
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:36:34pm |
re: #293 SasquatchOnSteroids
Or her thong in a knot ?
/is that even possible ?
Maybe. Sort of like a modified wedgie.
//
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:37:17pm |
re: #246 iceweasel
I'm looking for a link to the full interview. I don't like this implication either, believe me, but the context of the full interview does make clear that what she was talking about was a worry that Roe would mean poor women on medicaid being harried into choosing abortion.
And that would be a legitimate worry, and a good one for her to have.
It's her wording that bothers me. It can't have been a mistake. Very poor choice of words.
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:37:22pm |
re: #291 JacksonTn
IW ... way over there ... here is my answer ... not so smart as you but I think it says it all ... oh, yeah, I am not mature ... not at all ..
[Video]
Yeah, I'll be clicking that. Maybe next year. :)
Thanks for thinking of me though; I certainly do appreciate it.
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Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:37:43pm |
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OldLineTexan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:37:54pm |
re: #294 iceweasel
That's lovely. :)
It was fun; I behaved perfectly.
/pats self on back
/now that Smalley is a Senator ...
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OldLineTexan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:39:06pm |
re: #301 Gus 802
Maybe. Sort of like a modified wedgie.
//
I thought a thong was a wedgie by definition ...
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PSGInfinity Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:39:52pm |
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ShanghaiEd Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:39:55pm |
re: #276 iceweasel
haha-- I notice she's already started downdinging you merely for asking polite questions, in lieu of answering you.
Welcome.
Well, two can play at that game. In the spirit of turning the other cheek, I will upding jackson until further notice.
(Yep, my hidden ideology is revealed: the dreaded Sermon on the Mount!)
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n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:40:08pm |
re: #307 OldLineTexan
I thought a thong was a wedgie by definition ...
I thought a thong was a type of footware.
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OldLineTexan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:40:35pm |
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:40:42pm |
re: #307 OldLineTexan
I thought a thong was a wedgie by definition ...
True enough.
//Mumbles to himself -- hmm, that sounds kind of gross.
/////
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jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:41:20pm |
Here's a link to the full Ruth Bader Ginsburg interview in the NYT magazine:
Q: Are you talking about the distances women have to travel because in parts of the country, abortion is essentially unavailable, because there are so few doctors and clinics that do the procedure? And also, the lack of Medicaid for abortions for poor women?JUSTICE GINSBURG: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae — in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion. Which some people felt would risk coercing women into having abortions when they didn’t really want them. But when the court decided McRae, the case came out the other way. And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
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OldLineTexan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:41:37pm |
re: #309 ShanghaiEd
Turning the other cheek on a wedgie thread ... I must say, way to develop a theme.
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Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:41:38pm |
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~Fianna Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:41:56pm |
re: #162 Naso Tang
Listen, I'm a landlord and I have tenants paid for by taxes. I'm not complaining, the rent is guaranteed and at a better rate than the unemployed can afford, and the tenants are mostly decent people, meaning single moms with 2 or 3 kids or more.
But I can't help but think that it would have saved millions, billions, if they had been paid for family planning and free birth control to begin with......
but some would think that is a discriminatory and even racist attitude.
(
As long as we're strictly talking REVERSABLE birth control (the pill or Norplant), I don't see a problem with it. You have kids, something bad happens, we shouldn't let the kids starve.
However, that doesn't mean we get to take care of 5 kids, 2 of which came after the payments.
One of the things that a lot of my fellow Liberals don't like to talk about is the utter hell that has been wrecked on the black family by welfare. The reason that a lot of poor black men don't father is that they're either in jail for years on petty drug charges or if they're around, it's not as cost effective for them to be in the household since the average salary of an urban male is not great, but still too high to qualify for additional benefits. The kids get better care if dad's not around permanently than if he is.
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OldLineTexan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:42:16pm |
re: #310 n in wi
I thought a thong was a type of footware.
Pity the poor girl who confuses the two.
/
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:42:24pm |
re: #303 reine.de.tout
And that would be a legitimate worry, and a good one for her to have.
It's her wording that bothers me. It can't have been a mistake. Very poor choice of words.
It's an extremely awful choice of words.
the full interview is being released tomorrow, as I recall.
I did see (somewhere) a full transcript, and while it did make clear that her meaning was this worry about medicaid and poor women being forced into choosing abortion, these are the words she used and even with context I find them ugly.
Fortunately in her case we do already know her judicial record, and it doesn't at all reflect (IMO) what the worst interpretation of these words would lead one to think
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:42:31pm |
re: #312 OldLineTexan
Now how can you enjoy a skulk-off?
If we make it a sculling event we could call it a row!
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:43:03pm |
I should clean this room up...
A) Clean it
B) Put it in committee
C) Ignore it
D) Ron Paul
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PSGInfinity Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:43:28pm |
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:43:35pm |
re: #321 SasquatchOnSteroids
I should clean this room up...
A) Clean it
B) Put it in committee
C) Ignore it
D) Ron Paul
Here, have a beer.
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Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:44:08pm |
re: #321 SasquatchOnSteroids
I should clean this room up...
A) Ron Paul
B) Ron Paul
C) Ron Paul
D) Ron Paulfixed
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:44:29pm |
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:44:29pm |
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tradewind Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:44:34pm |
re: #161 Gus 802
That's the Obama administration's new mantra... No We Can't**, so Yes They Can***.
**impose restrictions that invade their privacy
*** drink themselves to death
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:44:35pm |
My cousin has just created a facebook account for his unborn child. It has a sonogram for a profile picture.
Of course I asked to be friended. How else will I hear all the details?
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:45:20pm |
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PSGInfinity Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:45:25pm |
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OldLineTexan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:45:28pm |
re: #327 Gus 802
Is it a Ron Paulie Girl?
//
It's brewed according to the German putsch laws ... according to some.
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:45:38pm |
re: #315 OldLineTexan
Turning the other cheek on a wedgie thread ... I must say, way to develop a theme.
Is that anything like a "snuggie"?
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:45:53pm |
re: #276 iceweasel
haha-- I notice she's already started downdinging you merely for asking polite questions, in lieu of answering you.
Welcome.
Iceweasel.
You and I don't always agree, but we get along.
You do seem a tad grumpy today.
The upding/downding buttons are for people to use as they wish.
The decision to respond or not respond is a person's own.
Sometimes a person responds to me and I count it as a response even if I don't like it (or understand it).
I guess I'm finding it unseemly that people are being denigrated for how they use the ding system that Charles has provided, and how they respond. It is what it is. You cannot control it.
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Kronocide Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:46:15pm |
re: #15 jcm
JCM: You broke my computer monitor. The lunch barf in and of itself may have been cleanable off the monitor, but the image on the monitor cracked it letting in the regurgitated micro brew and pizza, thereby shorting the LCD back panels.
Please send Zionist check to:
BP Illuminati, Inc.
42 Pentagram Way
Lava Lair, Mountaintop Bunker, HI
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Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:46:17pm |
Giant Earthworm hunt !Your text to link...
now this is the part that gets me :
The worm is said to secrete a lily-like smell when handled, spit at predators, and live in burrows 15 feet deep. There have been only a handful of sightings.
But scientists hope to change that this summer with researchers scouring the Palouse region in hopes of finding more of the giant earthworms. Conservationists also want the Obama administration to protect the worm as an endangered species, even though little research has been done on it.
riiiiiight.
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JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:46:19pm |
Back to a more pleasurable experience ...
Look at Little Sister ... Jeff Healy and SRV ... rocking ...
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:47:08pm |
re: #309 ShanghaiEd
Well, two can play at that game. In the spirit of turning the other cheek, I will upding jackson until further notice.
(Yep, my hidden ideology is revealed: the dreaded Sermon on the Mount!)
heh...I have a similar ideology. I upding a couple of folks every time they downding me and/or are gratuitously mean.
Jackson is one of those folks you should ignore. Nice person to others-- but doesn't want to have a conversation with people 'on the other side'.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:47:08pm |
re: #320 Gus 802
If we make it a sculling event we could call it a row!
If we have kangaroos at the oars, can we call it a mob row?
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Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:47:11pm |
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PSGInfinity Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:48:13pm |
re: #333 VegasRick
Is that anything like a "snuggie"?
Snuggies don't hurt as much ... unless you lube with cayenne pepper...
/We were mean little kids.
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:48:23pm |
re: #336 Shug
Giant Earthworm hunt !Your text to link...
now this is the part that gets me :
riiiiiight.
What? A giant earthworm report and no mention of "global warming?"
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:48:31pm |
re: #334 reine.de.tout
Iceweasel.
You and I don't always agree, but we get along.
You do seem a tad grumpy today.
The upding/downding buttons are for people to use as they wish.
The decision to respond or not respond is a person's own.
Sometimes a person responds to me and I count it as a response even if I don't like it (or understand it).
I guess I'm finding it unseemly that people are being denigrated for how they use the ding system that Charles has provided, and how they respond. It is what it is. You cannot control it.
Who is trying to control it?
Not me.
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:48:43pm |
re: #339 PSGInfinity
If we have kangaroos at the oars, can we call it a mob row?
I can gather a crew.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:49:04pm |
re: #199 jcm
You describe a disfunctional situation, but I was describing one that simply considers pregnancy either inevitable, or a ticket to paid rent, and to a certain degree the number of kids determines how big a place one can get.
It's easy to blame a teenager whose parents did the same thing, and whose leaders don't do squat, but I blame all of us for being such prissies we can't discuss or pay for family planning in a serious manner without calling it abstinence.
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PSGInfinity Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:50:40pm |
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:50:58pm |
re: #338 iceweasel
heh...I have a similar ideology. I upding a couple of folks every time they downding me and/or are gratuitously mean.
Jackson is one of those folks you should ignore. Nice person to others-- but doesn't want to have a conversation with people 'on the other side'.
hahaha!...good one...are you imploding?....it's not a fan club or a ding love in...it's a merit thing, plenty of people like you for some reason...let the rest go....it's inside your head now, bad juju
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MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:51:04pm |
re: #336 Shug
Giant Earthworm hunt !Your text to link...
now this is the part that gets me :
riiiiiight.
There have been only a handful of sightings.
I wonder if those who saw it were snipe hunting. Or, looking for a jackalope.
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JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:51:14pm |
re: #344 albusteve
hard to argue with that gig.....
albusteve ... one of my favorite SRV and Jeff Healey rocking it songs ... love it ... oh, here is a beer for you brother ... I am tired ... been up since 5 working and just chillin ... gotta feed the tax machine ya know ...
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pink freud Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:52:00pm |
re: #338 iceweasel
heh...I have a similar ideology. I upding a couple of folks every time they downding me and/or are gratuitously mean.
Jackson is one of those folks you should ignore. Nice person to others-- but doesn't want to have a conversation with people 'on the other side'.
And you two are like the schoolyard bullies. You know ...."serial bullies" ....remember your link? ...your dragged it in here one night in another of your lectures on psychology .....at the time it was clear why this piqued your interest .....more clear now.
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:52:41pm |
re: #349 MandyManners
There have been only a handful of sightings.
I wonder if those who saw it were snipe hunting. Or, looking for a jackalope.
But scientists hope to change that this summer with researchers scouring the Palouse region in hopes of finding more of the giant earthworms. Conservationists also want the Obama administration to protect the worm as an endangered species, even though little research has been done on it
SNAFU
SOS
/
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:52:49pm |
re: #350 JacksonTn
albusteve ... one of my favorite SRV and Jeff Healey rocking it songs ... love it ... oh, here is a beer for you brother ... I am tired ... been up since 5 working and just chillin ... gotta feed the tax machine ya know ...
accepted on behalf of rockers everywhere!...take care
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Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:53:23pm |
re: #346 Naso Tang
The fact is that we subsidize abortion, we subsidize child-care, we subsidize food, we subsidize housing, we even subsidize transportation. At some point people will realize that all the subsidization in the world will not "cure" poverty. Only character will.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:53:31pm |
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freetoken Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:54:12pm |
Speaking of teh ugly... I see that the freepers are defending their right to pick on Obama kids:
Personally I think we need to be as dirty as them. I’m sick of playing nice. We keep losing. Its the McLame way.Trash them. Every. Single. Liberal. Be dirtier. Be meaner. Be nastier.
7 posted on July 11, 2009 5:24:54 PM PDT by Crazieman
-
Sorry, I don’t give an Obama about the libs or anything they think about us. It’s about time we start treating them like they treat us. It’s war, folks. I’ve given up on the decency. Just give me Ayer’s address when the action starts.Really.
10 posted on July 11, 2009 5:25:53 PM PDT by Da Coyote
The thinking (?) over there is essentially - since they did it to Palin, we should do it to Obama.
An eye offspring for an eye offspring, I guess.
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:54:13pm |
re: #348 albusteve
plenty of people like you for some reason...
Why thank you! What a nice thing to say, albusteve, I appreciate it.
Cheers, ice
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PSGInfinity Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:55:04pm |
re: #354 Lincolntf
The fact is that we subsidize abortion, we subsidize child-care, we subsidize food, we subsidize housing, we even subsidize transportation. At some point sane people will realize that all the subsidization in the world will not "cure" poverty. Only character will.
Sadly, Utopians aren't fully sane.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:55:21pm |
re: #354 Lincolntf
The fact is that we subsidize abortion, we subsidize child-care, we subsidize food, we subsidize housing, we even subsidize transportation. At some point people will realize that all the subsidization in the world will not "cure" poverty. Only character will.
fine...by that same token I want to subsidize ping and RW and the others
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:55:24pm |
re: #357 freetoken
Oh yes, that's teh ugly.
When we start terrorizing children, we have lost everything that we ever meant to stand for.
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MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:55:35pm |
re: #351 pink freud
And you two are like the schoolyard bullies. You know ...."serial bullies" ....remember your link? ...your dragged it in here one night in another of your lectures on psychology .....at the time it was clear why this piqued your interest .....more clear now.
Might wanna' look at Buzz's recent posts.
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Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:56:07pm |
re: #360 albusteve
fine...by that same token I want to subsidize ping and RW and the others
fucking A right.
they earned it. they deserve it
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MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:56:43pm |
re: #357 freetoken
Speaking of teh ugly... I see that the freepers are defending their right to pick on Obama kids:
The thinking (?) over there is essentially - since they did it to Palin, we should do it to Obama.An
eyeoffspring for aneyeoffspring, I guess.
Evil, shameless fuckers.
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:57:22pm |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:57:29pm |
re: #357 freetoken
OMG I can't get over those freaks. Sick.
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freetoken Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:57:34pm |
BTW, speaking of the right-wing-fantasy-girl:
Palin’s bizarre announcement that she would quit her post as governor of Alaska on July 26 stunned political friends and foes and has been greeted with derision by a growing number of prominent Republicans. Some conservative insiders have accused the charismatic mother-of-five of succumbing to “paranoia”.
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pink freud Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:57:48pm |
re: #362 MandyManners
Might wanna' look at Buzz's recent posts.
Buzzsaw seems to have exceptional skills when it comes to bullies from what I've seen lately and I respect him immensely for what he has written ...it was dead on. They will steal your lunch money and everything else you care about, if allowed.
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Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:58:04pm |
re: #360 albusteve
No one put a lock on your checkbook, go ahead and do it.
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:58:23pm |
re: #351 pink freud
And you two are like the schoolyard bullies. You know ...."serial bullies" ....remember your link? ...your dragged it in here one night in another of your lectures on psychology .....at the time it was clear why this piqued your interest .....more clear now.
Sorry, Dr Freud...would that be the night when you were lecturing us all about Kitty Genovese, and how she was a prostitute, from a mob family, living in a ghetto, and all your assertions were disproven and you couldn't provide a single reference for any of them?
I remember that night. :)
Good times.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:58:40pm |
re: #369 Lincolntf
No one put a lock on your checkbook, go ahead and do it.
I will...are you with me here?
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snowcrash Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:58:54pm |
re: #338 iceweasel
"Jackson is one of those folks you should ignore", Gee maybe you should gets Ed email addy and share your little bitchisms off line.
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Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:59:00pm |
I would gladly pay higher taxes to take care of the Veterans like realwest and dustyvet and pingjockey etc etc who bought paid for my freedom and liberty I enjoy with their military service..
I would rather quit work than pay 1 nickle in taxes to support Henrietta Hughes and that complete dipshit Julio Osegueda and the millions just like them
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ShanghaiEd Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:59:09pm |
re: #286 MandyManners
A newbie mocking an older Lizard?
Mandy, I admit I'm still paranoid after yesterday, but does your "newbie" refer to me? It's not my habit to mock anybody, especially ladies.
In my exchange with Jackson, I tried to defuse anger with humor. A bad habit I have. Failed attempt, I move on.
If you can show me where I've "mocked" an older Lizard, I'll apologize. Or am I just being touchy, and you were referring to somebody else?
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:59:25pm |
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Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:59:29pm |
re: #371 albusteve
Nope. As much empathy as I have, my family has its needs as well. I have to tend to those first.
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Sharmuta Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:59:44pm |
re: #358 iceweasel
I like you because you're intelligent and nice. I don't always have to agree with a person's politics to like them.
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pink freud Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:00:48pm |
re: #370 iceweasel
No, that was the night that were holding forth with your UK link on bullies. I'd think you would remember ......
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:00:56pm |
re: #372 snowcrash
"Jackson is one of those folks you should ignore", Gee maybe you should gets Ed email addy and share your little bitchisms off line.
Hey, I like you snow, but if you read the thread and the one that little fight between them was carried over from, my advice was good. Some people should just not talk to each other.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:01:16pm |
re: #317 ~Fianna
As long as we're strictly talking REVERSABLE birth control (the pill or Norplant), I don't see a problem with it. You have kids, something bad happens, we shouldn't let the kids starve.
However, that doesn't mean we get to take care of 5 kids, 2 of which came after the payments.
One of the things that a lot of my fellow Liberals don't like to talk about is the utter hell that has been wrecked on the black family by welfare. The reason that a lot of poor black men don't father is that they're either in jail for years on petty drug charges or if they're around, it's not as cost effective for them to be in the household since the average salary of an urban male is not great, but still too high to qualify for additional benefits. The kids get better care if dad's not around permanently than if he is.
Of course I'm not talking sterilization. We know where that leads.
As to taking care of the kids, of course we do, whether we want to or not. You know that.
I don't think your understanding of the fatherhood bit is very realistic. There is a culture that never expects them to be more than a screw and sperm donor, although many will slip in to take advantage of the free accommodation provided, until the next court date.
In case that sounds racist, I remind that it it is in no way exclusively a black culture thing, just somewhat more obvious there.
You remember the hundreds of FLDS children taken into state care last year on allegations of child abuse? Most of those are single mothers according to the state, and paid accordingly. The difference is that in those cases the system is a bit more sophisticated and daddy cashes the checks and builds a 12 bedroom house for his harem, courtesy of all of us. But that's respect for religious freedom, and not much discussed by the MSM.
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Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:01:24pm |
re: #377 Sharmuta
I like you because you're intelligent and nice. I don't always have to agree with a person's politics to like them.
Sharm! Nice seeing you...
hope today finds you well
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:01:42pm |
re: #346 Naso Tang
You describe a disfunctional situation, but I was describing one that simply considers pregnancy either inevitable, or a ticket to paid rent, and to a certain degree the number of kids determines how big a place one can get.
It's easy to blame a teenager whose parents did the same thing, and whose leaders don't do squat, but I blame all of us for being such prissies we can't discuss or pay for family planning in a serious manner without calling it abstinence.
I mostly agree with you.
But I think the first step, the most important is teaching responsibility and expecting people to take responsibility. Much in life doesn't "just happen" people make choices, and engage in behaviors that have predictable results. Then when those predictable results occur, the current societal reaction is to call them a victim, and mitigate the consequences of the choices and actions they've made.
I'm more than willing to help pick 'em up dust 'em off and get them on their feet. But the system is not designed to do that, it's designed to create a dependent, not independent person.
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MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:02:36pm |
re: #365 VegasRick
WERE ALL DOOMED! DOOMED I TELL YA!
Britain sides with Fenwick and the Soviet Union sides with the U.S.. Freakin' bizarre movie.
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:02:43pm |
re: #377 Sharmuta
I like you because you're intelligent and nice. I don't always have to agree with a person's politics to like them.
Well, you're intelligent and nicer, and certainly more generous. I'm not always very nice, and I'll admit that.
I respect people who can get beyond partisanship. You do that; I try to.
Thanks.
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JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:02:43pm |
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:03:00pm |
re: #352 Gus 802
SNAFU
SOS
/
Conservationists also want the Obama administration to protect the worm as an endangered species, even though little research has been done on it
The Palouse is some of the most productive farm land in the country......
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n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:03:22pm |
re: #354 Lincolntf
The fact is that we subsidize abortion, we subsidize child-care, we subsidize food, we subsidize housing, we even subsidize transportation. At some point people will realize that all the subsidization in the world will not "cure" poverty. Only character will.
The subsidizing is a proved failure. It continues because the "Good" people ,AKA liberals, are willing to destroy one's dignity of self-reliance to boost their own self esteem. They have a need to feel needed and will convince others of what they are not capable of to attain it.
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MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:03:54pm |
re: #374 ShanghaiEd
Mandy, I admit I'm still paranoid after yesterday, but does your "newbie" refer to me? It's not my habit to mock anybody, especially ladies.
In my exchange with Jackson, I tried to defuse anger with humor. A bad habit I have. Failed attempt, I move on.
If you can show me where I've "mocked" an older Lizard, I'll apologize. Or am I just being touchy, and you were referring to somebody else?
No, Ed. I was not referring to you.
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wiffersnapper Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:04:11pm |
Just thought I'd let you all know that I climbed Colorado's highest peak, Mt. Elbert (14,433') on Wednesday! Go me.
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wrenchwench Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:04:33pm |
re: #386 VegasRick
Damnit! No flounce - off!
That's it, I'm leaving!
/but I'll be back Monday, so I guess this doesn't count either.
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JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:04:48pm |
re: #390 wiffersnapper
Just thought I'd let you all know that I climbed Colorado's highest peak, Mt. Elbert (14,433') on Wednesday! Go me.
wsnper ... Sweet ... I am out of breath just thinking about it ... Congrats! ...
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MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:04:52pm |
re: #390 wiffersnapper
Just thought I'd let you all know that I climbed Colorado's highest peak, Mt. Elbert (14,433') on Wednesday! Go me.
I drove to the top of Mt. Evans once.
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Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:04:56pm |
re: #354 Lincolntf
The fact is that we subsidize abortion, we subsidize child-care, we subsidize food, we subsidize housing, we even subsidize transportation. At some point people will realize that all the subsidization in the world will not "cure" poverty. Only character will.
We wouldn't have to subsidize any of those if we didn't recognize that children raised by children will just raise more children.
You know what they say about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result each time. That is what we do, and we are the adults.
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:05:02pm |
Palin may have lost her way
But this is all I have to say.
Obama's way.
Leads only to decay.
Burma Shave
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Sharmuta Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:05:35pm |
re: #381 HoosierHoops
Hi {Hoops! I'm alright- pages loading slow again, so I'm half-lurking.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:05:45pm |
re: #393 MandyManners
I drove to the top of Mt. Evans once.
did you get some of those great fried cakes?
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:05:54pm |
re: #391 wrenchwench
That's it, I'm leaving!
/but I'll be back Monday, so I guess this doesn't count either.
What is the timeframe on an "official" flounce - off?
Lizards?
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SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:06:05pm |
re: #390 wiffersnapper
Just thought I'd let you all know that I climbed Colorado's highest peak, Mt. Elbert (14,433') on Wednesday! Go me.
You must be one of those young wiffersnappers.
Congrats.
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Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:06:20pm |
spatting spatters are a spattin.
over what I cannot tell
but the spatting spatters spatter on
until the final bell
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Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:06:22pm |
re: #387 jcm
Conservationists also want the Obama administration to protect the worm as an endangered species, even though little research has been done on it
The Palouse is some of the most productive farm land in the country......
Yeah, and you can imagine the results from having an unknown worm getting an endangered classification.
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snowcrash Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:06:26pm |
re: #385 JacksonTn
Ever see Birthday Greetings from Joe Crocker. Makes me laugh every time.
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Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:06:32pm |
re: #388 n in wi
Some of it is a search for self-esteem (the brain-dead voters), the rest of it is power-madness (the actual pols).
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:06:45pm |
re: #378 pink freud
No, that was the night that were holding forth with your UK link on bullies. I'd think you would remember ......
Sorry, my bad. Did you need to see that link again? :)
Hey, where are your Genovese links? We're still waiting. In your own time, madam.
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Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:06:45pm |
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jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:06:58pm |
re: #390 wiffersnapper
Just thought I'd let you all know that I climbed Colorado's highest peak, Mt. Elbert (14,433') on Wednesday! Go me.
I think you shorted your self a few feet, 14,443
Now go back and count again!
/ ;-P
Congrats!
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VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:06:59pm |
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JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:07:12pm |
re: #402 snowcrash
Ever see Birthday Greetings from Joe Crocker. Makes me laugh every time.
SC ... no ... is that the video where they make up the lyrics? ... tell me I want to see it ..
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reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:07:33pm |
re: #343 iceweasel
Who is trying to control it?
Not me.
The denigration of a person in the way you've done it in a few posts here did seem to me to be an attempt to control by forcing other people to shut up and get out of the way, lest they suffer your wrath.
Perhaps I am mistaken.
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snowcrash Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:07:34pm |
re: #402 snowcrash
My link is not a link? Very interesting.
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Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:07:36pm |
re: #390 wiffersnapper
Just thought I'd let you all know that I climbed Colorado's highest peak, Mt. Elbert (14,433') on Wednesday! Go me.
You fucking stud! I'd love to hear more of the details....Congrads..
I scaled Devils Canyon in College but that is nothing compared to 14k.
Tell us more!
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n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:07:47pm |
re: #382 jcm
I mostly agree with you.
But I think the first step, the most important is teaching responsibility and expecting people to take responsibility. Much in life doesn't "just happen" people make choices, and engage in behaviors that have predictable results. Then when those predictable results occur, the current societal reaction is to call them a victim, and mitigate the consequences of the choices and actions they've made.
I'm more than willing to help pick 'em up dust 'em off and get them on their feet. But the system is not designed to do that, it's designed to create a dependent, not independent person.
Government assistance should be a crutch, not a motorized wheel-chair.
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jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:07:48pm |
re: #390 wiffersnapper
You win! Uncompahgre Peak (14,309) for me.
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The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:07:51pm |
re: #395 Gus 802
Palin may have lost her way
But this is all I have to say.
Obama's way.
Leads only to decay.
Burma Shave
Upding for the funny, and especially for the BurmaShave ref.
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albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:07:59pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:08:15pm |
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Gearhead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:08:19pm |
Evening, gang. Did you know that bowling with a 7-year old and a 5-year old is somewhat chaotic?
(Looks like I missed a few interesting exchanges yesterday and today.
| 419 |
Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:08:46pm |
re: #415 iceweasel
Upding for the funny, and especially for the BurmaShave ref.
Yeah, we had that Burma Shave thing going here several months ago.
| 421 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:09:18pm |
re: #396 Sharmuta
Pretty bad connection for me too.
| 422 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:09:30pm |
re: #397 albusteve
did you get some of those great fried cakes?
From what I recall, the only thing up there was wind. No commercial enterprise.
| 423 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:09:40pm |
re: #387 jcm
I got cousins who farm in the Palouse. For that matter, my great-great-grandfather started farming there back in the 1880's, I think.
/Given the nature of my family, I would not give sworn testimony that they had nothing to do with it, should it turn out to be a prank.
Also, I would be really unhappy if my cousins were suddenly forbidden to farm their land. For one thing, they might need to move in here.
| 424 |
The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:09:49pm |
re: #410 reine.de.tout
The denigration of a person in the way you've done it in a few posts here did seem to me to be an attempt to control by forcing other people to shut up and get out of the way, lest they suffer your wrath.
Perhaps I am mistaken.
If so, I certainly apologise. I wouldn't think anyone would think they should fear my wrath, least of all here-- but it wasn't my intent.
| 426 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:10:22pm |
| 427 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:10:34pm |
re: #425 jcm
Nope. But, I was in a car. That was back when I was in shape.
| 428 |
PSGInfinity Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:10:44pm |
re: #418 Gearhead
Evening, gang. Did you know that
bowling with[living in the same timezone as] a 7-year old and a 5-year old is somewhat chaotic?(Looks like I missed a few interesting exchanges yesterday and today.
You're welcome!
:)
| 429 |
Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:10:46pm |
A POTUS
Who leaves
Our checkbook open
Is not thinkin'
He's just hopin'
| 430 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:10:51pm |
| 432 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:11:19pm |
I climbed the Twin Peaks of Doom.
/got married, for the single ones.
| 433 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:11:44pm |
re: #418 Gearhead
Evening, gang. Did you know that bowling with a 7-year old and a 5-year old is somewhat chaotic?
(Looks like I missed a few interesting exchanges yesterday and today.
I'd be scared one would drop the ball on my feet.
| 434 |
Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:11:50pm |
| 435 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:11:53pm |
re: #422 MandyManners
From what I recall, the only thing up there was wind. No commercial enterprise.
in the 60s and beyond there was a little stone building up there....world class fresh hot donuts and coffee....it burned down around 76 or so...maybe you weren't born yet come to think of it
| 436 |
ArchangelMichael Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:11:55pm |
re: #377 Sharmuta
I like you because you're intelligent and nice. I don't always have to agree with a person's politics to like them.
If I had to agree with someone's politics to like them I'd probably no friends and for awhile it got close to that. It's not a good place to be.
| 437 |
PSGInfinity Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:12:06pm |
re: #432 SasquatchOnSteroids
I climbed the Twin Peaks of Doom.
/got married, for the single ones.
Get wedged in the canyon yet?
| 438 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:12:10pm |
Are we quibbling about squabbles? Don't make me bicker your pettifog!
| 439 |
VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:12:12pm |
| 440 |
snowcrash Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:12:21pm |
Joe Cocker Birthday Greeting link, take two. PIMF.
| 441 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:12:21pm |
re: #430 MandyManners
Are you still peeing?
I have a bladder like a gerbil. It's awful. Always have.
Drink 12, pee 14. You'd think I'd lose weight.
Oops...back in a minute!
| 442 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:12:33pm |
| 443 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:13:09pm |
re: #390 wiffersnapper
Have you ever read the book "High Crimes" by....can't remember his name and the book is in the other room....
Anyway, if you haven't, Google it. It's a cool (kind of depressing) book aboiut climbing Everest in the modern era.
| 444 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:13:24pm |
| 445 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:13:38pm |
re: #410 reine.de.tout
The denigration of a person in the way you've done it in a few posts here did seem to me to be an attempt to control by forcing other people to shut up and get out of the way, lest they suffer your wrath.
Perhaps I am mistaken.
Reine ... Hey! ... my iphone is not being used ... I need remedial instruction ... LOL ....
It is my experience with leftist that allows me to see through the swirl ... don't care what people say about me .... who the f*ck cares ... I see through the crap ... because I lived it for so long ... there is a definite .... what is the word ... theme that runs through all leftist talk ... they agree just enough to pull you in ... seen it all from the inside ... and it is ugly and planned ... don't care if anyone agrees with me on it or not ... it is the truth ... it was played to the extreme ability of the DSA or now the Progressives as they like to call themselves this time during this past election ... they were reaching for the last time ...
it will all come out in the wash ... and you know Monday is red beans and rice day ... yum ...
| 446 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:13:57pm |
re: #435 albusteve
in the 60s and beyond there was a little stone building up there....world class fresh hot donuts and coffee....it burned down around 76 or so...maybe you weren't born yet come to think of it
I was a wee child.
| 447 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:14:05pm |
How many characters does Sellers play in this damn movie!
| 448 |
jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:14:06pm |
re: #444 MandyManners
We can tell the oil ticks to fuck off and die.
Piss off and die to be technically correct............
| 449 |
n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:14:21pm |
re: #418 Gearhead
Evening, gang. Did you know that bowling with a 7-year old and a 5-year old is somewhat chaotic?
(Looks like I missed a few interesting exchanges yesterday and today.
Obama's bowling skills can only be rivaled by his economic skills,also chaotic. I wish we had some of those gutter bumpers to use. Maybe enough to go all the way around Washington D.C.
| 450 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:14:36pm |
re: #438 Killgore Trout
Are we quibbling about squabbles? Don't make me bicker your pettifog!
We're all a bunch of happy fuckers!
| 451 |
Gearhead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:14:37pm |
re: #433 MandyManners
I'd be scared one would drop the ball on my feet.
Heh. Nearly happened tonight, but just once.
| 452 |
Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:14:47pm |
re: #444 MandyManners
We can tell the oil ticks to fuck off and die.
We'll have to wait and see.
I wonder if cars will smell like a kitty litter box?
/
| 453 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:14:50pm |
re: #420 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I climbed Pikes Peak!
Years ago we were vacationing in Maine and we drove up to Arcadia national park to the top of Mt. Cadillac which is the first place in the US that the sun shines on...it's a big deal there....I love the state of Maine...Great state and wonderful people....
| 454 |
Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:14:53pm |
re: #442 MandyManners
I climbed Pikes Peak!
There's a homosexual joke in there somewhere.
There's certainly one about your mind today. Pi-kes could be a girls name in my mind. Perhaps Finnish.
| 455 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:14:55pm |
re: #437 PSGInfinity
Get wedged in the canyon yet?
You don't get to do that anymore after you say I Do.
It's the Law.
| 458 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:15:53pm |
re: #447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
How many characters does Sellers play in this damn movie!
Peter Sellers would have been better in "The Klumps".
Just sayin...
| 459 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:16:40pm |
re: #458 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Peter Sellers would have been better in "The Klumps".
Just sayin...
do you ding your own posts too?
| 460 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:17:29pm |
re: #459 albusteve
CV comes in handy sometimes!
| 461 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:17:52pm |
| 462 |
Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:18:05pm |
To Buy
A Vote
Burriss had the knack
But he lacked the brains
To get paid back
Burma-Shave
| 463 |
Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:18:06pm |
re: #450 MandyManners
We're all a bunch of happy fuckers!
The Fighting Squabbling Fokkers of LGF!
1st Division
//
| 464 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:18:18pm |
re: #450 MandyManners
I'm glad to see the atmosphere lightening up around here the past day or so.
| 465 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:18:29pm |
| 466 |
Gearhead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:18:40pm |
re: #458 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Peter Sellers would have been better in "The Klumps".
Just sayin...
Which Sellers movie are you watching?
| 468 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:19:41pm |
re: #465 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Au contraire!
Toots? That spelled right?
Looks good to me, as far as 3 years of high school French go.
When you look at your own post, are the dinger buttons not grayed out?
| 469 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:19:54pm |
re: #463 Gus 802
The Fighting Squabbling Fokkers of LGF!
That's a rotating title nominee right there.
| 471 |
snowcrash Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:20:00pm |
re: #460 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You still have the "chubby" sock?
| 472 |
Gearhead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:20:40pm |
| 473 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:21:07pm |
re: #468 EmmmieG
Have you seen my Karma? Of course not.
| 474 |
ShanghaiEd Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:21:17pm |
| 475 |
Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:21:19pm |
re: #469 SasquatchOnSteroids
That's a rotating title nominee right there.
Should come with a patch. ;)
| 476 |
Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:21:52pm |
re: #357 freetoken
Speaking of teh ugly... I see that the freepers are defending their right to pick on Obama kids:
The thinking (?) over there is essentially - since they did it to Palin, we should do it to Obama.
An
eyeoffspring for aneyeoffspring, I guess.
It's that "It's our turn to be the scumbags and we will not be denied, no!" thing again.
| 478 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:22:46pm |
Cry Baby ... from the girl ...
| 479 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:22:47pm |
| 480 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:22:53pm |
re: #445 JacksonTn
Reine ... Hey! ... my iphone is not being used ... I need remedial instruction ... LOL ....
It is my experience with leftist that allows me to see through the swirl ... don't care what people say about me .... who the f*ck cares ... I see through the crap ... because I lived it for so long ... there is a definite .... what is the word ... theme that runs through all leftist talk ... they agree just enough to pull you in ... seen it all from the inside ... and it is ugly and planned ... don't care if anyone agrees with me on it or not ... it is the truth ... it was played to the extreme ability of the DSA or now the Progressives as they like to call themselves this time during this past election ... they were reaching for the last time ...
it will all come out in the wash ... and you know Monday is red beans and rice day ... yum ...
iPhone -You need to get a "chat", I "chatted" this morning with Erik the Red about his iPhone. Once you start using it, you will not stop using it. It will be with you always. It's, like, everything in one device. I love it.
Lefty arguments and comments - I actually enjoy seeing other points of view, figuring out how to respond, having a conversation. I think I'm smart enough not to be "sucked in". I just enjoy the give and take, the discussions, etc. As long as they remain polite. Just me.
I had some really grand red beans 'n rice last week. The Roi made it. It was really good, spice enough I didn't even need any tabasco!
| 481 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:23:42pm |
re: #478 JacksonTn
classic!...and so appropriate...you could be a DeeJay!
| 482 |
The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:23:43pm |
re: #476 Jimmah
It's that "It's our turn to be the scumbags and we will not be denied, no!" thing again.
We were the first people to call each other - - - - s and MEAN it!
johnny rotten, filth and the fury.
| 483 |
Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:23:46pm |
re: #479 SasquatchOnSteroids
Is it windows based ?
/duck
windows has encountered a problem and needs to close.
| 484 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:23:50pm |
| 485 |
srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:24:01pm |
re: #472 Gearhead
Hmm. That's one I haven't seen...yet.
Never saw the movie...but the book was very funny = )
| 486 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:24:25pm |
re: #480 reine.de.tout
iPhone -You need to get a "chat", I "chatted" this morning with Erik the Red about his iPhone. Once you start using it, you will not stop using it. It will be with you always. It's, like, everything in one device. I love it.
Lefty arguments and comments - I actually enjoy seeing other points of view, figuring out how to respond, having a conversation. I think I'm smart enough not to be "sucked in". I just enjoy the give and take, the discussions, etc. As long as they remain polite. Just me.
I had some really grand red beans 'n rice last week. The Roi made it. It was really good, spice enough I didn't even need any tabasco!
Reine ... I know you know why Monday is Red Beans and Rice day but do you think anyone else here knows? ...
| 489 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:25:02pm |
re: #470 albusteve
live blogging the Mouse That Roared...
This is all Mandy's fault..She started watching the mouse that roared and I looked for it and found the Entourage marathon on HBO2...
Now I'm stuck here till Sunday...Help me....:)
| 490 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:25:13pm |
re: #486 JacksonTn
Reine ... I know you know why Monday is Red Beans and Rice day but do you think anyone else here knows? ...
is there an official Beef-O-Roni day?
| 491 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:26:15pm |
re: #489 HoosierHoops
Entourage is the reason I signed up for NetFlix. Funny show.
| 492 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:26:29pm |
re: #490 albusteve
is there an official Beef-O-Roni day?
albusteve .. stop opening cans! ... if you get down this way ... there will be a real dinner ... not that slop in a can stuff ... but hey love the food you are with ...
| 493 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:27:38pm |
Thanks Mandy! That was great. Wouldn't have known it was on!
| 495 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:29:46pm |
re: #491 Lincolntf
Entourage is the reason I signed up for NetFlix. Funny show.
It's on till 1:30am so Tivo'd them all.. Entourage started out as my favorite show but burned out....I'll catch up but they say this new season is fantastic...
The last couple of seasons have been lame....
I love the show overall....
| 496 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:29:58pm |
re: #492 JacksonTn
albusteve .. stop opening cans! ... if you get down this way ... there will be a real dinner ... not that slop in a can stuff ... but hey love the food you are with ...
you know that what you eat you are...
| 497 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:29:58pm |
re: #485 srb1976
What? All these fuckin' people who read!
/
| 498 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:30:46pm |
re: #492 JacksonTn
albusteve .. stop opening cans! ... if you get down this way ... there will be a real dinner ... not that slop in a can stuff ... but hey love the food you are with ...
good evening Jackson!
How are you tonight?
| 499 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:31:01pm |
re: #495 HoosierHoops
I think the last season I saw was "3", but they come in chunks so I'm not sure. On my way to check the queue right now....
| 500 |
Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:32:30pm |
Now some words of 'wisdom' from David Icke: The Nazis were lefties and Obama is a fascist.
| 502 |
vxbush Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:33:04pm |
Sorry, but I'm just thrilled that "Eureka" is back on. I love that show.
And yes, I'm a geek.
| 503 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:33:30pm |
Those of you with a bunch of HBO's...Richard Jeni's "A Big Steaming Pile of Me" comes on at 10:00 on HBOCOM! Watch it. And watch what genius is.
I am still sad when I think that he suffered so greatly, but made people laugh so hard.
I love Richard Jeni.
| 504 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:33:36pm |
re: #499 Lincolntf
I think the last season I saw was "3", but they come in chunks so I'm not sure. On my way to check the queue right now....
I think the first 3 seasons were the best! Hey ..If I win the lotto we'll start our own Entourage... That show is pure fun
| 505 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:33:57pm |
re: #498 HoosierHoops
good evening Jackson!
How are you tonight?
HH ... I am great ... been working all day and it feels good ... when you love what you do work does not seem a burden ... today I got to get with people who buy my products and that is always a great feeling ... it makes all the hard work seem so good .. and now I am chillin and drinking some beer and will go back at it tomorrow ... there are many things that are hard about being a business owner but the rewards are many ... life is good ...
| 506 |
ShanghaiEd Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:34:19pm |
| 507 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:36:19pm |
re: #505 JacksonTn
HH ... I am great ... been working all day and it feels good ... when you love what you do work does not seem a burden ... today I got to get with people who buy my products and that is always a great feeling ... it makes all the hard work seem so good .. and now I am chillin and drinking some beer and will go back at it tomorrow ... there are many things that are hard about being a business owner but the rewards are many ... life is good ...
That is wonderful news....Toast to you my friend...
| 508 |
jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:37:19pm |
The plight of the sea kittens......
Body paint and fish tails to protest......
PETA members dress as fish for Seattle protest
PETA said they chose to protest in this way because a few hours before, some of the guys from the fish market held a demonstration at the conference, where they also threw fish
| 509 |
Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:37:39pm |
Without The Shop Assistants, would Nirvana even have existed? Let's not get bogged down in that debate, let's just go straight to the music:
| 510 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:38:14pm |
I am a child of culture...the counter culture...post Watergate pop culture is a fog of mediocrity with a dim light of quality here and there...I don't even bother with it...BO is the new King of Pop!
| 511 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:38:48pm |
re: #508 jcm
For every set of horse-shoes...
Human Beings use for luck...
Somewhere in this worlds...
A barefoot horse....
-Alan Sherman
| 512 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:39:26pm |
| 513 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:39:58pm |
re: #509 Jimmah
garage band at best...three chords you can learn before lunch
| 514 |
jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:40:37pm |
re: #508 jcm
The plight of the sea kittens......
Body paint and fish tails to protest......
Why flapping boobs will make Pike Place Fish Market stop throwing fish escapes me at the moment.
| 515 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:40:55pm |
| 517 |
snowcrash Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:41:15pm |
re: #508 jcm
Love it when they throw the sea kittens at Pike Place Mkt.
| 518 |
Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:42:10pm |
Gotta get some sleep. Heading towards Lapp Land for a month tomorrow, but have no fear, I'll be in touch.
Goodnight all.
| 519 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:42:22pm |
re: #514 jcm
In general (present company excepted, of course) vegetarians/vegans/animal rights people are the most un-happy people you have ever, ever met.
| 520 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:43:11pm |
re: #519 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
In general (present company excepted, of course) vegetarians/vegans/animal rights people are the most un-happy people you have ever, ever met.
chronic hunger has that effect...but hey
| 521 |
Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:43:16pm |
re: #513 albusteve
garage band at best...three chords you can learn before lunch
Simplicity can be genius. Lots of bands out there doing complicated hard-to-do things with their guitars etc but it just sounds like shit.
| 522 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:43:25pm |
re: #510 albusteve
I am a child of culture...the counter culture...post Watergate pop culture is a fog of mediocrity with a dim light of quality here and there...I don't even bother with it...BO is the new King of Pop!
During the primary..Obama spoke at our local High School...
You cannot believe how cool it was for this small town to have the secret service here..Everybody was driving around checking out the sniper nests and stuff..It was a big deal here....
Let's face it...America elected a Rock Star...
*shakes head*
| 523 |
Gearhead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:43:27pm |
re: #512 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Long live the King!
Short live his reign!
Brilliant! I'll take the t-shirt, the coffee cup, the bumper sticker, and the license plate surround.
| 524 |
Flyers1974 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:43:39pm |
re: #516 Flyers1974
SE,
Misfire there. Did you ever think that in the July following a presidential election, the biggest story would be the VP candidate of the losing side? Intersting times.
| 525 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:44:09pm |
re: #508 jcm
BTW...not because I am a vegetarian...but... I'd hate to be called a "fish monger".
| 526 |
Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:44:10pm |
Good news! Obama approval rating continues downward even by Gallup standards:
Obama Job Approval Drifts Down to 58% So Far in July
Approval rating of 53% among independents reflects six-point drop from June average
by Frank Newport
PRINCETON, NJ -- U.S. President Barack Obama averaged a 58% job approval rating for the first eight days of July, down from an average of 61% for June. His approval rating is down most significantly among independents, to 53% so far in July from an average of 59% in June; it has dropped two points among Republicans (from 25% in June to 23% so far in July) and has gone up a point among Democrats, to 90%.
With 58% he now matches George Bush's approval of 57% (within 1 percent) for the period of July 10-11, 2001.
| 527 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:45:04pm |
re: #521 Jimmah
Simplicity can be genius. Lots of bands out there doing complicated hard-to-do things with their guitars etc but it just sounds like shit.
you are listening to the wrong stuff then...the guitar is an instrument, not an accessory...pound away tho, and fer god's sake do SOMETHING with the hair!
| 529 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:46:12pm |
re: #486 JacksonTn
Reine ... I know you know why Monday is Red Beans and Rice day but do you think anyone else here knows? ...
I suspect they don't.
I wonder if they care?
| 530 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:46:17pm |
re: #525 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
BTW...not because I am a vegetarian...but... I'd hate to be called a "fish monger".
Let's highjack this thread to a food thread!
Hi Veggie!
/Obama promised me a free kitchen!
| 531 |
jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:46:33pm |
re: #519 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
In general (present company excepted, of course) vegetarians/vegans/animal rights people are the most un-happy people you have ever, ever met.
I know a lot of people who've made conscience diet choice for their health.
But they don't strip half nekkid and lay my drive way when I have a BBQ. If they're invited I make one hell of a vegetable skewer. Haven't had any complaints about my hospitality.
| 532 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:46:45pm |
re: #522 HoosierHoops
During the primary..Obama spoke at our local High School...
You cannot believe how cool it was for this small town to have the secret service here..Everybody was driving around checking out the sniper nests and stuff..It was a big deal here....
Let's face it...America elected a Rock Star...
*shakes head*
he's canned...ObamaRama
| 533 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:46:56pm |
re: #529 reine.de.tout
I suspect they don't.
I wonder if they care?
Reine .. probably not .. but it is history ... I love me some red beans and rice ... yum ... cheap great food ...
| 534 |
jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:47:19pm |
re: #525 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
BTW...not because I am a vegetarian...but... I'd hate to be called a "fish monger".
No war for fish!
No war for fish!
| 535 |
~Fianna Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:47:52pm |
re: #336 Shug
Giant Earthworm hunt !Your text to link...
now this is the part that gets me :
riiiiiight.
The spice must flow.
| 536 |
snowcrash Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:48:00pm |
re: #521 Jimmah
I liked the "shoegaze" alt rock thing out of the UK about that time. Nice link.
| 537 |
Gearhead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:48:22pm |
re: #528 JacksonTn
The night ... the Band ...
Back when MTV was still worth a shit, they played that on a regular basis. Great music.
| 538 |
Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:48:47pm |
re: #527 albusteve
and fer god's sake do SOMETHING with the hair!
Just what they used to say to Kurt Kobain. Case closed:D
| 539 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:49:05pm |
re: #537 Gearhead
Back when MTV was still worth a shit, they played that on a regular basis. Great music.
GH ... oh yes ... I am sure it is considered racist music now ...
| 541 |
Gearhead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:49:32pm |
re: #525 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
BTW...not because I am a vegetarian...but... I'd hate to be called a "fish monger".
No blood for cod liver oil!
| 542 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:50:21pm |
re: #538 Jimmah
Just what they used to say to Kurt Kobain. Case closed:D
I love you man...like a scientist with his experiment
| 543 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:50:58pm |
re: #533 JacksonTn
Reine .. probably not .. but it is history ... I love me some red beans and rice ... yum ... cheap great food ...
Yes, it is history.
Cheap great food.
From people who had nothing.
| 544 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:51:58pm |
re: #537 Gearhead
Back when MTV was still worth a shit, they played that on a regular basis. Great music.
it's a masterpiece...the whole gig
| 545 |
Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:52:08pm |
| 546 |
Gearhead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:52:16pm |
re: #539 JacksonTn
GH ... oh yes ... I am sure it is considered racist music now ...
Joan Baez' cover of it gives the song protected status.
| 547 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:52:42pm |
re: #546 Gearhead
Joan Baez' cover of it gives the song protected status.
GH ... I never listen to her version ... ever ...
| 548 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:52:44pm |
re: #546 Gearhead
Joan Baez' cover of it gives the song protected status.
she wrote it...the Band covers it
| 549 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:53:21pm |
| 550 |
dmandman Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:54:12pm |
re: #546 Gearhead
I remember when she sued Al Capp for creating the Phoney Joaney character. Total air-head that was a legend in her own mind.
| 551 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:54:20pm |
| 552 |
Gearhead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:54:24pm |
re: #548 albusteve
she wrote it...the Band covers it
Never knew that (obviously). Thought it was older.
| 553 |
Karridine Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:54:55pm |
re: #522 HoosierHoops
America elected a Pop Star...
And there's a lot to say for being POPular, but being principled and compassionate and America-loving has MORE to say for it, even if its not popular.
Especially when its not popular, Hoops!
| 554 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:55:07pm |
I was thinking Joni Mitchell and 'Woodstock"
| 555 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:55:28pm |
| 556 |
srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:55:32pm |
Better half appears to have gotten his hands on a copy of Song of the South....looks like a Japanese copy, but no subtitles or anything
| 558 |
jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:56:08pm |
re: #556 srb1976
Better half appears to have gotten his hands on a copy of Song of the South....looks like a Japanese copy, but no subtitles or anything
RACIST!
//;-P
| 559 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:56:25pm |
re: #548 albusteve
she wrote it...the Band covers it
A buddy of mine dug up some rare pics of Jimi H. the other day..
One pic of him in his underwear laying next to his guitar and a smoking hot girl next to him...The picture is in B&W from England...
| 560 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:56:31pm |
I'm posting this again because it really pisses me off.
A day after the parade, police returned the flag and the man's protest — over a liquor license — continued.
SNIP
Hours before a Fourth of July parade, four police officers went to Congine's property and removed the flag under the advice of Marinette County District Attorney Allen Brey.
Neighbor Steven Klein watched in disbelief.
"I said, 'What are you doing?' Klein said. "They said, 'It is none of your business.'"
The next day, police returned the flag.
SNIP
Marinette County Sheriff Jim Kanikula said it was not illegal to fly the flag upside down but people were upset and it was the Fourth of July.
"It is illegal to cause a disruption," he said.
SNIP
"It is pretty bad when I go and fight a tyrannical government somewhere else," Congine said, "and then I come home to find it right here at my front door."
| 561 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:56:53pm |
It has been an extraordinarily long week...got a phone call...it just got longer (but hopefully better). I have to drive 500 miles.
| 562 |
srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:57:18pm |
re: #558 jcm
RACIST!
//;-P
In this one case...it probably, actually applies..... = )
(really loved the bre'r rabbit stories as a kid though)
| 564 |
Karridine Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:58:26pm |
re: #550 dmandman
I remember when she sued Al Capp for creating the Phoney Joaney character. Total air-head that was a legend in her own mind.
And yet, she danced a slow-dance, cheek to cheek with a tall, butch-cut kid from the Defense Language Institute one night, out in the Carmel valley in 1965, when he crashed her party...
He was the only guy THERE who was taller than Joanie... she THANKED him for the dance...
| 565 |
Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:58:34pm |
re: #536 snowcrash
I liked the "shoegaze" alt rock thing out of the UK about that time. Nice link.
Cheers! Yes, a lot of interesting stuff from that time. Very influential too ;)
| 566 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:59:07pm |
re: #561 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It has been an extraordinarily long week...got a phone call...it just got longer (but hopefully better). I have to drive 500 miles.
Why do all the best songs talk about 500 miles?
| 567 |
jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:59:38pm |
re: #562 srb1976
In this one case...it probably, actually applies..... = )
(really loved the bre'r rabbit stories as a kid though)
I look at is a piece of cultural heritage.
It is what one makes of it.
| 568 |
jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:59:42pm |
re: #560 MandyManners
There's something not right about flying our national flag upside down just because an investment goes sour.
| 569 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:00:24pm |
re: #559 HoosierHoops
A buddy of mine dug up some rare pics of Jimi H. the other day..
One pic of him in his underwear laying next to his guitar and a smoking hot girl next to him...The picture is in B&W from England...
maybe the RRHF would buy them...who knows?
| 570 |
Gearhead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:00:27pm |
re: #557 albusteve
SORRY!
No problem! I can't remember if I have the Band's version on vinyl. I'll have to look at the liner notes (or I could use that newfangled 'internet' gizmo).
Gotta get #1 son to bed. Later, lizards.
| 571 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:00:29pm |
re: #522 HoosierHoops
Speaking of the Secret Service:
In 1999, my hometown had a massive fire in which 6 firefighters were killed. It was horrible (my cousin was in the building and survived), so Bill Clinton came to town to speak at a Memorial Service. The newspaper told everyone that his arrival time, route, etc. were classified information (natch). But they also said that he'd be landing at the local (semi-defunct) airport. The airport has only two roads that lead from it to downtown. One of those routes was the street I lived on (in a three-decker). Nobody ever talked to me or my neighbors (as far as I know) and I watched the motorcade drive directly under my window on the day of the service. Nothing could have stopped some psycho from attacking the motorcade if that psycho happened to live in the 'hood or read the newspapers.
Maybe they had it covered, but I don't see how.
| 572 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:00:58pm |
| 573 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:01:05pm |
re: #566 HoosierHoops
Why do all the best songs talk about 500 miles?
When I heave up
Oh yes you know I'm gonna be
I'm gonna be the one who's
'heavin next to you...
| 574 |
srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:01:13pm |
re: #567 jcm
I look at is a piece of cultural heritage.
It is what one makes of it.
What it is, is hard to get ahold of = )
I actually don't remember much of it, I was very young when I saw it....I just remember the tar baby and the briar patch....will have to watch it again..
| 575 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:01:44pm |
re: #561 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It has been an extraordinarily long week...got a phone call...it just got longer (but hopefully better). I have to drive 500 miles.
Better than NOT having to drive 500 miles because of NO prospect!
safe trip!
| 577 |
Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:02:33pm |
Here's a seldom seen rarity of the shoegazer era. Bang Bang Machine, with 'Geek Love'. It's the timeless theme of unrequited love in a family of genetically engineered circus freaks(the song is based on a book by the same name, apparently):
Someone has posted the lyrics:
waltz around her,waltz around her
crystal mystery my dreamlets
midnight gardener and the rose garden
designer children papas roses
janice,maple,clifford,fist
apple and leona the lizard girl
to love,but never to be in love
| 578 |
Syrah Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:02:58pm |
re: #566 HoosierHoops
Why do all the best songs talk about 500 miles?
Because "I would walk 500 miles."
| 580 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:03:35pm |
Embracing my bitterclinger redneckness ... oh, well ... simple man ... don't forget son ... lynyrd ... FloraBama here I come ...
| 582 |
jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:03:53pm |
re: #571 Lincolntf
Speaking of the Secret Service:
In 1999, my hometown had a massive fire in which 6 firefighters were killed. It was horrible (my cousin was in the building and survived), so Bill Clinton came to town to speak at a Memorial Service. The newspaper told everyone that his arrival time, route, etc. were classified information (natch). But they also said that he'd be landing at the local (semi-defunct) airport. The airport has only two roads that lead from it to downtown. One of those routes was the street I lived on (in a three-decker). Nobody ever talked to me or my neighbors (as far as I know) and I watched the motorcade drive directly under my window on the day of the service. Nothing could have stopped some psycho from attacking the motorcade if that psycho happened to live in the 'hood or read the newspapers.
Maybe they had it covered, but I don't see how.
Given the armor in the President's limo and USSS SUV's plus the fire power they carry, a lone psycho unless he's got serious firepower (RPG won't do it) isn't going to do anything but commit suicide.
| 584 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:04:32pm |
Richard Jeni's first 10 minutes is on Michael Jackson (while they were both still alive...)
| 585 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:05:09pm |
re: #580 JacksonTn
I've been drunk at the FloraBama...more than once
albuEd
| 586 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:05:12pm |
| 587 |
srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:05:22pm |
re: #578 Syrah
But in my head, it's the Benny and Joon song = )
| 588 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:05:35pm |
| 589 |
jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:06:39pm |
re: #574 srb1976
What it is, is hard to get ahold of = )
I actually don't remember much of it, I was very young when I saw it....I just remember the tar baby and the briar patch....will have to watch it again..
Like Tom Sawyer, captured a cultural moment and everything it entailed.
Some call Tom Sawyer racist.
| 590 |
srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:06:46pm |
| 591 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:06:55pm |
re: #578 Syrah
Because "I would walk 500 miles."
[Video]
You have no idea how special that song is to me...Isn't it funny how one song can take you right back to a special moment in your life at light speed? It's magic
| 592 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:07:19pm |
an Army of Skynards would stomp the Nazi's ass...jus sayin
| 594 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:07:54pm |
| 595 |
Syrah Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:07:56pm |
| 596 |
Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:08:08pm |
re: #581 albusteve
let's take a vote....who gives a shit?
bout what?
/ I think you have your answer from me
| 597 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:08:33pm |
re: #593 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
G'night, Nation of Lizlam...
You copyright that yet?
| 598 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:08:35pm |
| 599 |
Syrah Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:08:47pm |
re: #591 HoosierHoops
You have no idea how special that song is to me...Isn't it funny how one song can take you right back to a special moment in your life at light speed? It's magic
Some music will last through the ages. That one might.
| 600 |
GGMac Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:09:01pm |
re: #199 jcm
I'm a pretty charitable guy. I'll help folks who need it. But I also think people need to take responsibility. A lot of the current welfare system enables, it does nothing to help folks out.
Our current foster daughter has been in the system for 10 months. Her mom has 3 kids, custody of none. For those 10 months mom has refused to partake in court ordered drug treatment and parent services. By State law and standing court orders against the State they have 18 months to resolve a case. This is in the best interest of the child to bring stability to the child. After 10 months the plan is still for reunification. Mom has failed twice and is not cooperating in making any progress. It's costing money, resources and time, as well as instability of the child.
No one is being helped. Vital resources wasted. And a child's life is in limbo.
There is an upside: the longer the system and the mother screw around, the longer the child is with you - and I can only consider that a plus for the child.
God bless you!
| 601 |
lawrior Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:09:12pm |
re: #580 JacksonTn
A little band called Fiend without a Face The audio quality is a bit rough.
It's a side project from a some of the dudes in Mastodon, and perfect for embracing your inner angry honky-tonk side. You can also find some of their stuff here and here.a
Due to the vagaries of the recording industry, they are not playing/recording in the US until after the next Mastodon album.
| 603 |
ShanghaiEd Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:09:44pm |
re: #566 HoosierHoops
Why do all the best songs talk about 500 miles?
Same reason they call the wind Mariah?
| 604 |
Pigtown Water Dog Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:10:17pm |
re: #595 Syrah
Wasn't Benny and Joon a Johnny Depp movie?
| 605 |
~Fianna Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:10:45pm |
re: #380 Naso Tang
Of course I'm not talking sterilization. We know where that leads.
As to taking care of the kids, of course we do, whether we want to or not. You know that.
I don't think your understanding of the fatherhood bit is very realistic. There is a culture that never expects them to be more than a screw and sperm donor, although many will slip in to take advantage of the free accommodation provided, until the next court date.
In case that sounds racist, I remind that it it is in no way exclusively a black culture thing, just somewhat more obvious there.
You remember the hundreds of FLDS children taken into state care last year on allegations of child abuse? Most of those are single mothers according to the state, and paid accordingly. The difference is that in those cases the system is a bit more sophisticated and daddy cashes the checks and builds a 12 bedroom house for his harem, courtesy of all of us. But that's respect for religious freedom, and not much discussed by the MSM.
There's actually been a surprising amount of research on the issue of the black family structure pre- and post- welfare. Here's the Chicago GOP's take: [Link: www.chicagogop.com...]
Here's one take on it from Project 21, a Conservative A-A group: [Link: www.nationalcenter.org...]
Here's an interesting article on the effects of the 90s welfare reform on the number of parents in the household: [Link: www.nytimes.com...]
I wish that I could find a link to a paper that I read on the topic in a Sociology of Women class, because it had some great stats, but I've only found refereces to it, not the paper itself. Essentially it was a discussion about the matriarchal role of women in the black community from slavery through the 1970s. Post slavery through the 50s there was a fairly strong and stable black family structure and a growing black middle class. When we put in the 60s social programs, that had the effect of making the government more lucrative for the family than a father.
Yes, there are other cultural issues in effect, nothing happens in a vacuum, but I don't think that welfare was helpful in this instance. It's a BIG unintended consequence, and 3 generations of kids have suffered for it.
| 606 |
ThingFish Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:10:52pm |
re: #560 MandyManners
If he's a veteran he should know better.
"It is flown upside down only as a distress signal." from usflag.org
| 607 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:11:38pm |
| 609 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:12:30pm |
good Irish folk music....who's Irish round here?
| 610 |
jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:12:43pm |
re: #600 GGMac
There is an upside: the longer the system and the mother screw around, the longer the child is with you - and I can only consider that a plus for the child.
God bless you!
Thanks, click my nic. Her smile will make your day.
| 612 |
Syrah Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:12:53pm |
| 614 |
GGMac Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:13:03pm |
re: #529 reine.de.tout
I suspect they don't.
I wonder if they care?
I'll bite - why is Monday red beans and rice day?
Hmmmm sounds good...getting the hungreees. Is it Monday yet?
| 615 |
ArchangelMichael Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:13:10pm |
re: #560 MandyManners
"It is pretty bad when I go and fight a tyrannical government somewhere else," Congine said, "and then I come home to find it right here at my front door."
We have had it so good for so long that people don't even know what tyranny is anymore. It shocks me when someone in the armed forces who has been to the world's shitholes still does not get it.
| 616 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:13:41pm |
re: #609 albusteve
good Irish folk music....who's Irish round here?
[Video]
albusteve ... hahahaha ... Irish Catholic Southerner here ... I guess I am f*cked ... or not ...
| 617 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:14:03pm |
re: #582 jcm
True, but as Iraq has shown us, a lot of people have been killed while being "armored". I'd assume that they would have at least screened those of us who were going to have such a clear view of the motorcade.
| 618 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:14:35pm |
| 619 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:14:49pm |
re: #568 jaunte
There's something not right about flying our national flag upside down just because an investment goes sour.
True but, it is his property and his First Amendmenet right that the governement infringed upon.
| 620 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:14:54pm |
Only three minutes long...and perfect...
| 621 |
Pigtown Water Dog Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:15:29pm |
re: #618 sattv4u2
See, I CAN remember some stuff...just not the important stuff.
| 623 |
SteveC Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:15:38pm |
"Submitted for your consideration a certain man. His name is not important. He loves his family and his job, he has feelings for a young lady. All is well in his world. But as he clicks the icon on his computer, he has willingly stepped into....
..... the LGF Zone."
| 624 |
Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:16:18pm |
| 626 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:16:31pm |
re: #603 ShanghaiEd
Same reason they call the wind Mariah?
The wind cries Mary...
Everytime I hear Hotel California I think about picking up our first son at the baby sitters in a shitty car and baby seat...in the baking heat of Napa in the summer...we drove home with the windows down and I'm singing along with the radio at the top of my voice....Everytime I hear that song...I think of that exact moment in my life
| 627 |
David Simon Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:16:56pm |
re: #571 Lincolntf
Speaking of the Secret Service:
In 1999, my hometown had a massive fire in which 6 firefighters were killed. It was horrible (my cousin was in the building and survived), so Bill Clinton came to town to speak at a Memorial Service. The newspaper told everyone that his arrival time, route, etc. were classified information (natch). But they also said that he'd be landing at the local (semi-defunct) airport. The airport has only two roads that lead from it to downtown. One of those routes was the street I lived on (in a three-decker). Nobody ever talked to me or my neighbors (as far as I know) and I watched the motorcade drive directly under my window on the day of the service. Nothing could have stopped some psycho from attacking the motorcade if that psycho happened to live in the 'hood or read the newspapers.
Maybe they had it covered, but I don't see how.
The head of CentCom (at that time) drove right into an ambush in Fallujah, and drove away without a scratch:
[Link: www.pbs.org...]
Believe me, they had it covered.
| 628 |
MrPaulRevere Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:17:04pm |
"I was born in a crossfire hurricane, and I howled at my ma in the driving rain"
| 629 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:17:37pm |
re: #615 ArchangelMichael
We have had it so good for so long that people don't even know what tyranny is anymore. It shocks me when someone in the armed forces who has been to the world's shitholes still does not get it.
The former soldier doesn't get it? The STATE came onto his property, removed a piece of his property and violated his Constitutional rights.
| 630 |
srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:17:53pm |
re: #604 Pigtown Water Dog
Wasn't Benny and Joon a Johnny Depp movie?
Yep, and a pretty good one too....scene from benny and joon
| 631 |
jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:18:21pm |
re: #617 Lincolntf
True, but as Iraq has shown us, a lot of people have been killed while being "armored". I'd assume that they would have at least screened those of us who were going to have such a clear view of the motorcade.
Iraq had more stuff available. They would have run quick checks on folks along the route.
| 632 |
legalpad Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:18:24pm |
re: #626 HoosierHoops
The wind cries Mary...
Everytime I hear Hotel California I think about picking up our first son at the baby sitters in a shitty car and baby seat...in the baking heat of Napa in the summer...we drove home with the windows down and I'm singing along with the radio at the top of my voice....Everytime I hear that song...I think of that exact moment in my life
So many moments like that.
| 633 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:19:03pm |
re: #614 GGMac
I'll bite - why is Monday red beans and rice day?
Hmmmm sounds good...getting the hungreees. Is it Monday yet?
Monday is "wash" day. Way back in the day, the washing was done on Mondays. This was a difficult and time-consuming job, and there wasn't much time to prepare a meal on washdays.
Red beans take a couple of hours to cook and need no tending. So, they would put on a pot of red beans, walk away, do the wash with no interruptions AND still have a hearty hot meal.
And that's why traditionally, Mondays are red beans and rice days.
Cafeterias, restaurants that have a daily "plate lunch" - it will be red beans and rice on Mondays. Fried fish on Fridays. And a variety of other stuff inbetween.
| 634 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:19:08pm |
re: #628 MrPaulRevere
it's a fever eh?...thanks for that...those evil, dirty heathens
| 635 |
Syrah Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:19:41pm |
| 636 |
~Fianna Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:19:59pm |
re: #565 Jimmah
Cheers! Yes, a lot of interesting stuff from that time. Very influential too ;)
I'm hoping that's the next thing to make a comeback since we seemed to blast through the "new New Wave" over the last few years.
| 637 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:20:11pm |
| 638 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:20:19pm |
Is it almost bedtime across the pond ... just wondering ...
You know how I found that on my new iphone Reine? ... I just said it ... and it went to it ... crazy ...
| 639 |
Pigtown Water Dog Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:20:59pm |
re: #630 srb1976
Thanks for the Benny & Joon link--that scene was a little bit of brilliant!
| 640 |
Bobblehead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:21:26pm |
re: #623 SteveC
"Submitted for your consideration a certain man. His name is not important. He loves his family and his job, he has feelings for a young lady. All is well in his world. But as he clicks the icon on his computer, he has willingly stepped into....
..... the LGF Zone."
| 641 |
ArchangelMichael Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:21:41pm |
re: #629 MandyManners
The former soldier doesn't get it? The STATE came onto his property, removed a piece of his property and violated his Constitutional rights.
Because he was flying a flag upside down because he thinks the US is a Police State. The reason why? He couldn't get a liquor license. That sounds Hitlerian to me... start a revolution! Declare yourself sovereign! Tax revolt!
There was FAIL all around on this. The cops were wrong. I was not commenting on that. I was commenting that he was being a fucking drama queen.
| 642 |
srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:21:43pm |
re: #635 Syrah
Sounds like a good film.
It is a good movie....a friend of mine and I once spent most of week laid out on the couch with the flu watching Benny and Joon and being heavily medicated (we were both very sick).....still a good movie though, IMO
| 643 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:21:56pm |
re: #638 JacksonTn
Is it almost bedtime across the pond ... just wondering ...
[Video]You know how I found that on my new iphone Reine? ... I just said it ... and it went to it ... crazy ...
You used the voice search or google voice search? I've used it to find the websites of places, phone numbers - it is wayyy cool
So I take it you are becoming familiar with iPhone?
I played with it for several days.
| 644 |
Karridine Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:22:01pm |
re: #632 legalpad
and Napa is a good place to HAVE moments like that... :D
| 645 |
SteveC Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:22:08pm |
re: #633 reine.de.tout
Fried fish on Fridays.
Jumpin' Jimminy Cricket. A hospital I was once in offered baked fish at Friday lunch. Nasty stuff - and a nasty smell to go along with it. Smelled so bad that only one person somewhere on the floor ordered it, but everyone got to smell it.
All the lemon and vinegar in the world couldn't help that fish.
| 647 |
dmandman Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:22:21pm |
Creepy heads for Thriller fans....read the blurb and the comments:
[Link: www.japantoday.com...]
| 648 |
jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:22:22pm |
re: #619 MandyManners
True but, it is his property and his First Amendmenet right that the governement infringed upon.
Quite right.
| 649 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:22:37pm |
re: #643 reine.de.tout
You used the voice search or google voice search? I've used it to find the websites of places, phone numbers - it is wayyy cool
So I take it you are becoming familiar with iPhone?
I played with it for several days.
Reine ... LOL ... hell friggin no ... my son did it for me ...
| 650 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:23:11pm |
re: #627 David Simon
They might have, but we've had 4 assassinations out of 44 Presidents, so we're talking about almost a 10% failure (assassination) rate. That's good enough in some things, but not good enough for this thing.
| 651 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:23:54pm |
re: #641 ArchangelMichael
Because he was flying a flag upside down because he thinks the US is a Police State. The reason why? He couldn't get a liquor license. That sounds Hitlerian to me... start a revolution! Declare yourself sovereign! Tax revolt!
There was FAIL all around on this. The cops were wrong. I was not commenting on that. I was commenting that he was being a fucking drama queen.
I don't see where he said that the state is a police state because he couldn't get a liquor license.
| 653 |
SteveC Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:25:02pm |
re: #651 MandyManners
I don't see where he said that the state is a police state because he couldn't get a liquor license.
He sounds nutz. Just the type you want to buy and sell adult beverages.
| 654 |
jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:25:54pm |
re: #652 wiffersnapper
yeah, good eye, I missed that ;)
Loved hiking in Colorado when I was stationed there *cough* years ago!
| 655 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:25:56pm |
| 656 |
jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:26:24pm |
re: #641 ArchangelMichael
He is an idiot (for not getting the liquor license first), and a drama queen. But Mandy's right; no one actually has the right to take his property away from him. If the flag was provocative, the police should have protected him from anyone who was 'provoked.'
| 657 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:26:51pm |
re: #655 MandyManners
Not likely, vets aren't a 'protected' class.
| 658 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:27:12pm |
re: #653 SteveC
He sounds nutz. Just the type you want to buy and sell adult beverages.
Not nearly as nuts as the armed representatives of the state who thought they had the right to come onto his property and violate his rights.
| 659 |
~Fianna Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:27:27pm |
re: #633 reine.de.tout
Monday is "wash" day. Way back in the day, the washing was done on Mondays. This was a difficult and time-consuming job, and there wasn't much time to prepare a meal on washdays.
Red beans take a couple of hours to cook and need no tending. So, they would put on a pot of red beans, walk away, do the wash with no interruptions AND still have a hearty hot meal.
And that's why traditionally, Mondays are red beans and rice days.
Cafeterias, restaurants that have a daily "plate lunch" - it will be red beans and rice on Mondays. Fried fish on Fridays. And a variety of other stuff inbetween.
Wash on Monday
Iron on Tuesday
Mend on Wednesday
Churn on Thursday
Clean on Friday
Bake on Saturday
Rest on Sunday
I think I need to update that for the modern world. (I have made butter before, but it's surely not on my weekly to-do list.) It makes a handy and catchy to-do list.
I loved the Little House books when I was a kid. Almost as much as the Anne of Green Gables books.
| 660 |
wiffersnapper Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:27:41pm |
Should have stuck around a little while longer, but yeah, the hike wasn't so bad imo. Worst was scaling a boulder field at 13,500. Tons of false summits and steep climbs (shocka) were a pain the butt. It was my first 14er, and hopefully just have more to climb! 4 hours up, 2.5 down. Clear skies all day, left at 7AM, and no extreme heat for a summer day.
Thanks for the updings!
| 661 |
David Simon Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:28:08pm |
re: #650 Lincolntf
They might have, but we've had 4 assassinations out of 44 Presidents, so we're talking about almost a 10% failure (assassination) rate. That's good enough in some things, but not good enough for this thing.
Only JFK was in a motorcade, and the car he was riding in was a fucking convertible. No comparison.
| 662 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:28:24pm |
re: #656 jaunte
He is an idiot (for not getting the liquor license first), and a drama queen. But Mandy's right; no one actually has the right to take his property away from him. If the flag was provocative, the police should have protected him from anyone who was 'provoked.'
Remember the Israeli flag incident in Germany during the war against Hamas?
| 663 |
srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:28:40pm |
re: #656 jaunte
He is an idiot (for not getting the liquor license first), and a drama queen. But Mandy's right; no one actually has the right to take his property away from him. If the flag was provocative, the police should have protected him from anyone who was 'provoked.'
Exactly! As long as it was his flag, displayed on his property, and did not violate any local ordinances (sometimes they tell you how big a flag you can have...or what not) then he has every right to do what he wants with it.....
| 665 |
Racer X Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:28:55pm |
You Live in California when...
1. You make over $250,000 and you still can't afford to buy a house.
2. The high school quarterback calls a time-out to answer his cell phone.
3. The fastest part of your commute is going down your driveway.
4. You know how to eat an artichoke.
5. You drive your rented Mercedes to your neighborhood block party.
6. When someone asks you how far something is, you tell them how long it will take to get there rather than how many miles away it is.
| 666 |
Bobblehead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:29:06pm |
Just watching a little video of my son coaxing my 2 1/2 month old granddaughter to smile. Sometimes it's the little things that make life worth living,
| 667 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:29:16pm |
re: #657 pingjockey
Not likely, vets aren't a 'protected' class.
Its attorneys already are looking into filing suit.
| 668 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:29:40pm |
don't come to the bunkhouse and tell me how to fly a flag...it will end bad for somebody
| 669 |
Racer X Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:29:52pm |
You Live in New York City when...
1. You say "the city" and expect everyone to know you mean Manhattan.
2. You have never been to the Statue of Liberty or the Empire State Building.
3. You can get into a four-hour argument about how to get from Columbus Circle to Battery Park, but can't find Wisconsin on a map.
| 670 |
GGMac Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:30:18pm |
re: #610 jcm
Thanks, click my nic. Her smile will make your day.
How right you are - what a precious wee girl! Thanks for that smile. :)
| 671 |
Racer X Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:30:51pm |
You Live in Maine when...
1. You only have four spices: salt, pepper, ketchup, and Tabasco.
2. Halloween costumes fit over parkas.
3. You have more than one recipe for moose.
4. Sexy lingerie is anything flannel with less than eight buttons.
5. The four seasons are: winter, still winter, almost winter, and construction.
| 672 |
ArchangelMichael Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:31:02pm |
re: #651 MandyManners
It says:
A day after the parade, police returned the flag and the man's protest — over a liquor license — continued.
In mid-June, Congine, 46, began flying the flag upside down — an accepted way to signal distress — outside the restaurant he wants to open in Crivitz, a village of about 1,000 people some 65 miles north of Green Bay.
He said his distress is likely bankruptcy because the village board refused to grant him a liquor license after he spent nearly $200,000 to buy and remodel a downtown building for an Italian supper club.
Congine's upside-down-flag represents distress to him; to others in town, it represents disrespect of the flag.
So he was using a Paulian/Troofer symbol (taking the upside US flag meaning "distress" as in the US is in distress because of statists) implying that the US was a tyrannical police state because some stupid local bureaucracy denied his request for a liquor license. To me this screams Paulian drama queen.
I hope he wins his case against the cops and sues the hell out of that town, but he shouldn't get a pass as being pure as driven snow.
| 673 |
Racer X Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:31:12pm |
You Live in the Deep South when...
1. You can rent a movie and buy bait in the same store.
2."y'all" is singular and "all y'all" is plural.
3. After five years you still hear, "You ain't from 'round here, are Ya?"
4. "He needed killin' " is a valid defense.
5. Everyone has 2 first names: Billy Bob, Jimmy Bob, Mary Sue, Betty Jean, etc.
| 674 |
wiffersnapper Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:31:18pm |
re: #443 Lincolntf
Haven't read it. I'll put it on my to-do list. I think the most I've ever learned about Everest was that IMAX movie that came out in the 90s. Not sure if that counts :p
| 675 |
jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:31:18pm |
re: #662 MandyManners
Yes. [Link: www.dw-world.com...]
I think police departments will usually take the quickest apparent course to 'order', and decide later they might not have been following the law.
| 676 |
axegrinder Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:31:20pm |
I am surprised the officers were able to do what they did. If he had been an Arab they wouldn't have tried it. I don't get what the big deal is. After 9/11 I saw lots of flags with the stars in the upper right corner instead of the upper left and I wasn't offended at all. Hell, to protest is American.
| 677 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:31:22pm |
re: #656 jaunte
To me, this is a case that calls for...ahem...persuasion...rather than the Law.
A few guys from the American Legion (plenty of youngbloods in there these days) should have stopped by and told the dude that if he was going to continue to display the signal for "distress" that they'd stand outside and make sure nobody went in until the "distress" condition was resolved. A day without any receipts would probably set the guy right.
| 678 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:31:23pm |
re: #667 MandyManners
Really? Well that will cost him and the state a pretty penny and take up time and resources from more important stuff. Flying a flag upside down is a sign of severe distress, like an SOS. He was wrong, but it sounds like the cops, or who told the cops to remove it were wrong too.
| 679 |
Racer X Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:32:07pm |
You live in Colorado when...
1. You carry your $3,000 mountain bike atop your $500 car.
2. You tell your husband to pick up Granola on his way home and he stops at the day care center.
3. A pass does not involve a football or dating.
4. The top of your head is bald, but you still have a pony tail.
| 680 |
Kulhwch Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:32:29pm |
| 681 |
Syrah Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:32:31pm |
Another one. It brings back memories of Dad driving me somewhere in his big old Chevy pickup truck so long ago.
Bobby Bare - 500 miles
| 682 |
itellu3times Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:32:52pm |
Hey nice new code Charles, noticed it earlier (then rubbed my eyes), transition from front page to thread page. Kewl!
| 683 |
axegrinder Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:32:56pm |
re: #659 ~Fianna
Wash on Monday
Iron on Tuesday
Mend on Wednesday
Churn on Thursday
Clean on Friday
Bake on Saturday
Rest on SundayI think I need to update that for the modern world. (I have made butter before, but it's surely not on my weekly to-do list.) It makes a handy and catchy to-do list.
I loved the Little House books when I was a kid. Almost as much as the Anne of Green Gables books.
Better put plenty of time in there for watching tv and web surfing.
| 684 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:33:04pm |
re: #676 axegrinder
I am surprised the officers were able to do what they did. If he had been an Arab they wouldn't have tried it. I don't get what the big deal is. After 9/11 I saw lots of flags with the stars in the upper right corner instead of the upper left and I wasn't offended at all. Hell, to protest is American.
you were looking at the back of the flag
| 685 |
Racer X Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:33:06pm |
You live in the Midwest when...
1. You've never met any celebrities, but the mayor knows your name.
2. Your idea of a traffic jam is ten cars waiting to pass a tractor.
3. You have had to switch from "heat" to "A/C" on the same day.
4. You end sentences with a preposition: "Where's my coat at?"
5. When asked how your trip was to any exotic place, you say, "It was different!"
| 687 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:33:24pm |
re: #672 ArchangelMichael
It says:
So he was using a Paulian/Troofer symbol (taking the upside US flag meaning "distress" as in the US is in distress because of statists) implying that the US was a tyrannical police state because some stupid local bureaucracy denied his request for a liquor license. To me this screams Paulian drama queen.I hope he wins his case against the cops and sues the hell out of that town, but he shouldn't get a pass as being pure as driven snow.
I don't see that implication at all. But, I agree with your last sentence in spades.
| 688 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:33:35pm |
re: #665 Racer X
You Live in California when...
1. You make over $250,000 and you still can't afford to buy a house.
2. The high school quarterback calls a time-out to answer his cell phone.
3. The fastest part of your commute is going down your driveway.
4. You know how to eat an artichoke.
5. You drive your rented Mercedes to your neighborhood block party.
6. When someone asks you how far something is, you tell them how long it will take to get there rather than how many miles away it is.
I'm a California Native...born and raised...
I know how to eat an artichoke...:)
| 689 |
Racer X Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:33:48pm |
You live in Florida when...
1. You eat dinner at 3:15 in the afternoon.
2. All purchases include a coupon of some kind -- even houses and cars.
3. Everyone can recommend an excellent dermatologist.
4. Road construction never ends anywhere in the state.
5. Cars in front of you are often driven by headless people.
| 690 |
SteveC Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:34:08pm |
re: #661 David Simon
Only JFK was in a motorcade, and the car he was riding in was a fucking convertible. No comparison.
Wasn't the Presidential limo RAMMED while President Ford was a passenger?
| 691 |
~Fianna Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:34:14pm |
re: #683 axegrinder
Better put plenty of time in there for watching tv and web surfing.
Web surfing, yes. TV no. I gave that up years ago and only very rarely miss it.
| 693 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:34:28pm |
re: #675 jaunte
Yes. [Link: www.dw-world.com...]
I think police departments will usually take the quickest apparent course to 'order', and decide later they might not have been following the law.
It's a little town that was having a parade. Were they expecting a freakin' riot?
| 694 |
axegrinder Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:35:04pm |
re: #679 Racer X
You live in Colorado when...
1. You carry your $3,000 mountain bike atop your $500 car.
2. You tell your husband to pick up Granola on his way home and he stops at the day care center.
3. A pass does not involve a football or dating.
4. The top of your head is bald, but you still have a pony tail.
Explain #3 please. Me no get.
| 696 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:35:22pm |
| 697 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:35:25pm |
Someone in the media shills for Obama ... oh, say it is not true ...
[Link: www.examiner.com...]
is this true or just another anti-Obama person? ...
| 698 |
~Fianna Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:35:33pm |
re: #694 axegrinder
Explain #3 please. Me no get.
Place to drive through two mountains without hiring a Sherpa.
| 699 |
MrPaulRevere Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:35:41pm |
re: #685 Racer X
3. You have had to switch from "heat" to "A/C" on the same day...true, that
| 700 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:36:14pm |
re: #689 Racer X
You live in Florida when...
1. You eat dinner at 3:15 in the afternoon.
2. All purchases include a coupon of some kind -- even houses and cars.
3. Everyone can recommend an excellent dermatologist.
4. Road construction never ends anywhere in the state.
5. Cars in front of you are often driven by headless people.
You know you live in Indiana when you drive a 4 wheel drive with a gun rack..
LOL
| 701 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:36:15pm |
re: #661 David Simon
Preventing a repeat of the last assassination will do nothing to prevent the next one. 4 out of 44 died in Office, and the technology changed a zillion times betwixt the first and last.
I'm not saying it was an inherently dangerous decision by the Sec. Svc., but it was definitely a bad move by the paper to not realize that by telling the airport, they gave away the route. In fact, I bet the Sec. Svc. was pissed.
| 702 |
SteveC Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:36:19pm |
re: #673 Racer X
You Live in the Deep South when...
1. You can rent a movie and buy bait in the same store.
2."y'all" is singular and "all y'all" is plural.
3. After five years you still hear, "You ain't from 'round here, are Ya?" "You don't hunt 'round here, do ya?" (Heard that last week!)
4. "He needed killin' " is a valid defense.
5. Everyone has 2 first names: Billy Bob, Jimmy Bob, Mary Sue, Betty Jean, etc.
| 703 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:36:21pm |
re: #677 Lincolntf
To me, this is a case that calls for...ahem...persuasion...rather than the Law.
A few guys from the American Legion (plenty of youngbloods in there these days) should have stopped by and told the dude that if he was going to continue to display the signal for "distress" that they'd stand outside and make sure nobody went in until the "distress" condition was resolved. A day without any receipts would probably set the guy right.
From what I've gathered, his business isn't even open yet.
| 704 |
~Fianna Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:36:25pm |
re: #699 MrPaulRevere
3. You have had to switch from "heat" to "A/C" on the same day...true, that
Vegas in the Spring and Fall can qualify, too, strangely... Although us desert rats have a very strange idea of cold.
| 705 |
Syrah Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:36:47pm |
re: #665 Racer X
You Live in California when...
1. You make over $250,000 and you still can't afford to buy a house.
2. The high school quarterback calls a time-out to answer his cell phone.
3. The fastest part of your commute is going down your driveway.
4. You know how to eat an artichoke.
5. You drive your rented Mercedes to your neighborhood block party.
6. When someone asks you how far something is, you tell them how long it will take to get there rather than how many miles away it is.
True enough.
I had just moved to Washington. I was a bit shocked by the price of Artichokes in the store. Damn. They wanted real money for these things that grew like weeds in my backyard in California.
someone came up to me and asked what that thing was and what the hell you are supposed to do with.
I explained.
I don't know if she understood.
It was like I was explaining higher mathematics or rocket science.
Artichoke is a wonderful food.
| 706 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:37:04pm |
re: #678 pingjockey
Really? Well that will cost him and the state a pretty penny and take up time and resources from more important stuff. Flying a flag upside down is a sign of severe distress, like an SOS. He was wrong, but it sounds like the cops, or who told the cops to remove it were wrong too.
The wrongs are not equal. He didn't violate anyone's First Amendment rights like the police did his.
| 707 |
srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:37:14pm |
re: #699 MrPaulRevere
3. You have had to switch from "heat" to "A/C" on the same day...true, that
Also true in the south....during the 3 weeks that aren't "winter" or summer.... although....we probably only run the heat about 6 weeks out of the year...
| 708 |
ArchangelMichael Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:37:23pm |
re: #687 MandyManners
I don't see that implication at all. But, I agree with your last sentence in spades.
Perhaps I see Paulians around every corner, but I think too many people are way to quick to jump to the "AmeriKKKa is a Nazi Police state!1!" everytime something does not go their way. We don't even know what a police state actually is anymore. All this "crying wolf" does no one any good.
| 709 |
Bobblehead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:37:58pm |
re: #685 Racer X
You live in the Midwest when...
1. You've never met any celebrities, but the mayor knows your name.
2. Your idea of a traffic jam is ten cars waiting to pass a tractor.
3. You have had to switch from "heat" to "A/C" on the same day.
4. You end sentences with a preposition: "Where's my coat at?"
5. When asked how your trip was to any exotic place, you say, "It was different!"
Sometimes several times in one day.
| 710 |
jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:37:59pm |
re: #693 MandyManners
It's a little town that was having a parade. Were they expecting a freakin' riot?
I see my link didn't work.
They might have expected violence, with 10,000 marchers.
I think they should have been prepared to deal with lawbreakers.
Late Tuesday, Rolf Cebin, head of the police department in Duisburg, in western Germany, said, "the removal of the flags was -- in hindsight -- the wrong decision."
Officers entered the unoccupied apartment to remove the flags after demonstrators began pelting them with various things -- some said snowballs were thrown, while others said the demonstrators were throwing rocks.
Fear of violent reaction
The police said they were acting to defuse a situation that threatened to turn violent as over 10,000 people marched through the city in protest at Israel's actions in Gaza.
"Given what I know today, I would have solved the problem in a different way, in order to avoid an escalation," Cebin added.
The ripping-down of the flags sparked furious reaction from Jewish groups. A representative from the Simon-Wiesenthal-Center described the action as "cowardly" and "incomprehensible."
'Would they have torn down a Hamas flag?'
"Can anyone imagine police storming into a privately-owned house to remove a Hamas flag?" the Central Council of Jews in Germany asked?
In a separate incident in Berlin, a 35-year-old man who identified himself as Palestinian attacked a guard outside a synagogue in Berlin with an iron bar.
The man wanted to register a protest against Israel's war in Gaza, a police statement said.
[Link: www.dw-world.com...]
| 711 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:38:03pm |
I'm from NM and I love Colorado like a big brother loves a kid sister....they are not responsible for their folly....and of course Coloradans secretly worship us down here
| 713 |
yochanan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:38:44pm |
re: #683 axegrinder
Anne was a export of P.E.I. the smallest Provence in canukistan
| 714 |
Lawrior Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:38:47pm |
You knw you live in Austin when
1. Directions from anywhere to anywhere start with "Whatever you do, don't get on I35"
2. You know that anyone wearing pants in November is just visiting from Ohio.
3. A woman walks on The Drag with live poultry ...You don't notice.
4. You start to worry when you don't see the cross-dressing, bearded guy in-a-tutu- and- bikini-top-who-has-made- a-statement-with-his-grocery-cart-and- cardboard-box-art/shelter on your way to work in the morning. Scarier yet, you know his name is name is actually Leslie.
5.You'll make dinner or bar plans around who's got the best margaritas or queso.
6.Your co-worker tells you they have 8 body piercings or tattoos but none are visible.
| 716 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:38:51pm |
re: #705 Syrah
True enough.
I had just moved to Washington. I was a bit shocked by the price of Artichokes in the store. Damn. They wanted real money for these things that grew like weeds in my backyard in California.
someone came up to me and asked what that thing was and what the hell you are supposed to do with.
I explained.
I don't know if she understood.
It was like I was explaining higher mathematics or rocket science.
Artichoke is a wonderful food.
You are from California also? Nice...I grew up in Napa Valley, Outside of Yountville... Nice meeting you
| 717 |
wiffersnapper Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:38:58pm |
re: #711 albusteve
Yeah if there's one thing we Coloradoans worship, it's Las Vegas, NM
| 718 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:39:05pm |
re: #706 MandyManners
I will agree on point, but not principle. The guy is a vet, like me. IMO he should not have been flying the flag upside down over a business dispute.
Just bad manners to my thinking but definetly in his rights.
| 719 |
snowcrash Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:39:12pm |
re: #677 Lincolntf
High crimes : the fate of Everest in an age of greed /Michael Kodas.
Just put it on hold at my library. Thanks.
| 720 |
itellu3times Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:39:12pm |
Saturday night is movie night at the White House.
After the poinless trip to Moscow and other points of the compass, how about a rerun of 300.
Get ready for face to face with Achmadinejad:
"This Is Shhhppparta!"
As if.
| 721 |
axegrinder Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:40:00pm |
re: #684 albusteve
you were looking at the back of the flag
Couldn't see the front, was on the building. I'm talking about flags hung horizontally.
| 722 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:40:01pm |
| 723 |
MrPaulRevere Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:40:08pm |
re: #707 srb1976
Its not unusual to get a 30 degree temperature drop or rise during a 24 hour period here in Missouri. It keeps things interesting.
| 724 |
David Simon Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:40:34pm |
re: #690 SteveC
Wasn't the Presidential limo RAMMED while President Ford was a passenger?
Don't recall that. I remember Squeaky Fromme though.
| 725 |
axegrinder Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:40:39pm |
| 726 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:40:41pm |
re: #649 JacksonTn
Reine ... LOL ... hell friggin no ... my son did it for me ...
ha-ha!
I should have guessed.
You need to play with it.
For a couple of days.
Press every button
Look at every option.
I'm tellin' ya . . . you really can't expect your son is going to be around forever to do this stuff for you.
| 727 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:40:52pm |
re: #708 ArchangelMichael
Perhaps I see Paulians around every corner, but I think too many people are way to quick to jump to the "AmeriKKKa is a Nazi Police state!1!" everytime something does not go their way. We don't even know what a police state actually is anymore. All this "crying wolf" does no one any good.
He did NOT say that "AmeriKKKa is a Nazi Police state" because he didn't get his liquor license. He didn't even say it after the police stole his property and violated his rights.
It just hit me. The cops didn't even have a warrant to come onto his property. Oops. Looks like another constitutional right was violated.
| 728 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:41:00pm |
re: #721 axegrinder
Couldn't see the front, was on the building. I'm talking about flags hung horizontally.
from the front the stars are in the upper left...are you daft?
| 729 |
yochanan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:41:09pm |
re: #688 HoosierHoops
I'm a California Native...born and raised...
I know how to eat an artichoke...:)
whats an artichoke?
| 730 |
srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:41:19pm |
re: #723 MrPaulRevere
Its not unusual to get a 30 degree temperature drop or rise during a 24 hour period here in Missouri. It keeps things interesting.
I remember that from growing up in Nebraska/Iowa....that and NEVER trust the weather man...he doesn't know any more than you do = )
| 731 |
~Fianna Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:41:29pm |
re: #713 yochanan
Anne was a export of P.E.I. the smallest Provence in canukistan
I've always wanted to visit "Green Gables" - it's something of a major tourist attraction in PEI.
I just re-read the books a few weeks ago. It's still like visiting an old friend.
| 732 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:41:44pm |
re: #724 David Simon
Plus that other crazy woman who actually got rounds off. If Fromme had known her weapon Ford would've been dead.
| 733 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:41:46pm |
re: #717 wiffersnapper
Yeah if there's one thing we Coloradoans worship, it's Las Vegas, NM
that's the spirit....you are high minded!
| 734 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:42:04pm |
re: #710 jaunte
So, they violate a fundamental right (well, two now that I think about it) in order to guard against something that *might* happen?
| 735 |
dmandman Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:42:26pm |
re: #729 yochanan
The only time I saw anyone try to eat one of those was in a 3 Stooges film.
| 736 |
Racer X Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:42:26pm |
re: #722 HoosierHoops
with Mayo! Heaven!
/a little butter but thats a sin
Thats some good eats right there!
| 737 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:43:04pm |
re: #723 MrPaulRevere
Its not unusual to get a 30 degree temperature drop or rise during a 24 hour period here in Missouri. It keeps things interesting.
it does that every night in ABQ....sometimes even more
| 738 |
srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:43:18pm |
re: #734 MandyManners
So, they violate a fundamental right (well, two now that I think about it) in order to guard against something that *might* happen?
Unless there is something more to this that didn't make the paper, it looks pretty open and shut
| 739 |
itellu3times Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:43:18pm |
| 740 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:43:19pm |
re: #703 MandyManners
Good point, but he is identified as a "businessman" as opposed to a developer or an investor. I assumed he was trying to do business at the joint with the upside down flag.
Could be just a malcontent, could be an anti-American whackjob, who knows?
| 741 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:43:35pm |
re: #718 pingjockey
I will agree on point, but not principle. The guy is a vet, like me. IMO he should not have been flying the flag upside down over a business dispute.
Just bad manners to my thinking but definetly in his rights.
IF the state were to violate the rights out of every tacky person, our courts would explode.
| 742 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:44:01pm |
re: #737 albusteve
If we get a temp swing like that here in eastern WA, it means a big ass thunderstorm is coming!
| 743 |
itellu3times Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:44:19pm |
re: #739 itellu3times
I mean, an intermediate form betweeen a dandelion and a pine cone.
| 744 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:44:19pm |
re: #720 itellu3times
Saturday night is movie night at the White House.
After the poinless trip to Moscow and other points of the compass, how about a rerun of 300.
Get ready for face to face with Achmadinejad:
"This Is Shhhppparta!"
As if.
Are they still partying down every Wednesday night?
| 745 |
jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:44:32pm |
re: #734 MandyManners
Yes, I think their calculation is that it's easier to violate the right and apologize later, than defend against the (maybe) riot.
| 746 |
~Fianna Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:45:15pm |
re: #739 itellu3times
a cross between a dandelion and a pine cone.
I think technically it's a thistle. We had a pretty good crop of them earlier this spring and as I was wrestling with getting the choke out and snipping off the ends, we decided that at some point someone must have been really, really hungry to even try.
They're tasty, but they're hard to prepare. Fresh off the stalk, though, with a little mustard aioli... wow, just wow.
I can't wait to move somewhere that doesn't require a $300 bill to have a garden.
| 747 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:45:26pm |
re: #741 MandyManners
Heh, what a mess. If his neighbors were so concerned why didn't they talk to him. Sheesh, after reading this, the town and the cops were way out of line.
| 748 |
jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:45:44pm |
You know you live in Western Washington when......
1. You know how to pronounce Sequim, Puyallup, Enumclaw and Issaquah.
2. You consider swimming an indoor sport.
3. You keep snow chains in your trunk but they've never been used.
4. You see a person carrying an umbrella and know they must be a tourist.
5. Eating seafood isn't anything special.
6. Your lawn is mostly moss and you don't really care.
7. Your daily commute to work involves riding a ferry.
8. You know the difference between "showers followed by rain" and "rain followed by showers".
9. The sight of Mt. Rainier is still awe inspiring.
10. You're extremely picky about your coffee.
| 749 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:45:45pm |
re: #740 Lincolntf
Good point, but he is identified as a "businessman" as opposed to a developer or an investor. I assumed he was trying to do business at the joint with the upside down flag.
Could be just a malcontent, could be an anti-American whackjob, who knows?
whacko malcontents made this country....don't fuck with us
| 750 |
itellu3times Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:45:46pm |
re: #744 MandyManners
Are they still partying down every Wednesday night?
Results 1 - 10 of about 154,000,000 for wednesday night white house parties. (0.29 seconds)
/urgh
| 752 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:45:53pm |
re: #729 yochanan
whats an artichoke?
Boil em for 20 minutes...dip the leaves in Mayo....Is there nothing better than the heart? Delicious ....
| 753 |
David Simon Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:46:00pm |
re: #688 HoosierHoops
I'm a California Native...born and raised...
I know how to eat an artichoke...:)
But do you know how to cook it? If so, please share.
/tired of par boiling, trying to dig out the hairy choke and throwing the fucking thing away in disgust
| 754 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:46:09pm |
re: #738 srb1976
Unless there is something more to this that didn't make the paper, it looks pretty open and shut
One punishment I'd like to see is a requirement that the police and other PTB take a class on the Constitution. Well, maybe the Bill of Rights.
| 755 |
srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:46:20pm |
Ha! The last creamsicle in the house...and it's MINE...yay!
| 756 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:46:47pm |
re: #748 jcm
You know you live in Western Washington when......
1. You know how to pronounce Sequim, Puyallup, Enumclaw and Issaquah.
2. You consider swimming an indoor sport.
3. You keep snow chains in your trunk but they've never been used.
4. You see a person carrying an umbrella and know they must be a tourist.
5. Eating seafood isn't anything special.
6. Your lawn is mostly moss and you don't really care.
7. Your daily commute to work involves riding a ferry.
8. You know the difference between "showers followed by rain" and "rain followed by showers".
9. The sight of Mt. Rainier is still awe inspiring.
10. You're extremely picky about your coffee.
I was 18 before I realized that socks were supposed to be dry all day.
| 757 |
SteveC Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:46:51pm |
re: #729 yochanan
whats an artichoke?
Arti is a hitman just getting into the business. Since the economy is down, he lets the word get around that he will knock off anyone for the price of a dollar. He figures a few one dollar jobs will get him name circulation, be good PR, etc.
So one of the bosses hires him to knock off a guy and pays him a dollar. Arti tracks the fellow down and finally corners him in the local supermarket. Arti grabs him and chokes him to death. Trouble is, there are two witnesses, so Arti kills both of them with his bare hands. By then, the cops have the place surrounded and Arti is arrested.
The headline in the paper the next day was "Arti Chokes Three for a Dollar at the Local Supermarket."
| 758 |
Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:46:52pm |
Major banks say they will no longer accept California IOUs
Thousands of vendors who do billions of dollars of business with the state of California are scrambling as major banks say they will no longer honor the state's IOUs.
Despite pressure from the state treasurer, JPMorgan Chase & Co., Bank of America Corp., and Wells Fargo & Co. and other major banks planned to stick to their plans and not honor California's warrants after Friday. State Treasurer Bill Lockyer announced Citigroup Inc. agreed to a one-week extension through July 17.
/ruh roh
| 759 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:46:52pm |
re: #737 albusteve
it does that every night in ABQ....sometimes even more
Wow.
Here's what's in store for where I am in Louisiana, for the next week:
High -95
Low - 75
All week.
| 760 |
pink freud Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:46:54pm |
re: #726 reine.de.tout
I'm tellin' ya . . . you really can't expect your son is going to be around forever to do this stuff for you.
Now why do I think you are talking to me, too? LOL!
| 761 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:47:15pm |
re: #740 Lincolntf
Good point, but he is identified as a "businessman" as opposed to a developer or an investor. I assumed he was trying to do business at the joint with the upside down flag.
Could be just a malcontent, could be an anti-American whackjob, who knows?
He inveseted $200,000.00 of his own money into renovating a building so that he could open a restaurant with a bar.
| 762 |
Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:47:23pm |
You know you are from Michigan when
1. Half the change in your pocket is Canadian
2. You drive 86 mph on the highway and pass on the right
3. Anybody asks you where you are from, and you point to your hand
4. When giving directions you advise taking a michigan left
5. Driving in the winter is better because the pot-holes are filled with snow.
6. Half the people you know say they are from Detroit yet you don't personally know anyone that actually lives in Detroit
7. You know how to pronounce "Mackinac."
8. The word "thumb" has geographical rather than anatomical significance
9. You'v experienced a Fish Fly blizzard
10. Your idea of a traffic jam is 40 cars waiting to pass an orange barrel
| 763 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:47:24pm |
re: #755 srb1976
Ha! The last creamsicle in the house...and it's MINE...yay!
Before Taking the Last of the Ice Cream, ask yourself this question:
What Is Your Life Worth?
| 764 |
legalpad Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:47:25pm |
re: #714 Lawrior
You knw you live in Austin when
1. Directions from anywhere to anywhere start with "Whatever you do, don't get on I35"
2. You know that anyone wearing pants in November is just visiting from Ohio.
3. A woman walks on The Drag with live poultry ...You don't notice.
4. You start to worry when you don't see the cross-dressing, bearded guy in-a-tutu- and- bikini-top-who-has-made- a-statement-with-his-grocery-cart-and- cardboard-box-art/shelter on your way to work in the morning. Scarier yet, you know his name is name is actually Leslie.
5.You'll make dinner or bar plans around who's got the best margaritas or queso.
6.Your co-worker tells you they have 8 body piercings or tattoos but none are visible.
Are you doing your part to Keep Austin Weird?
| 765 |
Bobblehead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:47:52pm |
re: #720 itellu3times
Saturday night is movie night at the White House.
After the poinless trip to Moscow and other points of the compass, how about a rerun of 300.
Get ready for face to face with Achmadinejad:
"This Is Shhhppparta!"
As if.
Unfortunately Gerard Butler has more testosterone in his little finger nail than the 0 has in his whole body. Any attempt to pull a "Sparta" on Mr. Short Shit would be an epic fail on the 0's part.
| 766 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:47:56pm |
re: #719 snowcrash
Glad you found it. It's a "spotty" read, but well worth the time.
| 767 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:47:59pm |
re: #745 jaunte
Yes, I think their calculation is that it's easier to violate the right and apologize later, than defend against the (maybe) riot.
That miscalculation could cost them a huge chunk of change.
| 768 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:48:00pm |
re: #760 pink freud
Now why do I think you are talking to me, too? LOL!
lol.
maybe I am.
You're so funny.
| 769 |
Racer X Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:48:38pm |
Steamed artichokes are great! Another favorite is tomato and mozzarella slices with Kalamata olives. Drizzle on some olive and and vinegar. Mmm..mmm!
Is that another California thing?
| 771 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:49:05pm |
re: #760 pink freud
Now why do I think you are talking to me, too? LOL!
it's 100deg every day down here....by 3o'clock in the morning you'd better have a blanket....but....dry heat....hahaha!
| 772 |
jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:49:25pm |
re: #767 MandyManners
That miscalculation could cost them a huge chunk of change.
Unfortunately, them is us taxpayers.
| 773 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:49:35pm |
From another blog ...
Let me reiterate that I too am disillusioned, disgusted, and disappointed at what I see as the idiocy of what passes for government. Our country is in serious need of a political system that acts on behalf of the electorate and is not set up with an eye on the next election. Lobbyists and special interest groups have taken our place in our right of determination. Money talks. Lots of money buys elections. We have been almost officially shut out of the process, leaving us vulnerable, wounded and unrepresented. I get that. Both parties share equally in the blame game.
| 774 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:49:58pm |
re: #769 Racer X
Steamed artichokes are great! Another favorite is tomato and mozzarella slices with Kalamata olives. Drizzle on some olive and and vinegar. Mmm..mmm!
Is that another California thing?
I don't know if it's a "California" thing.
But my grandmother (in New Orleans) always had steamed artichokes, every time we visited. We loved 'em. And the Roi makes excellent stuffed artichokes.
| 775 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:50:00pm |
re: #747 pingjockey
Heh, what a mess. If his neighbors were so concerned why didn't they talk to him. Sheesh, after reading this, the town and the cops were way out of line.
For all we know the neighbors did talk to him.
| 776 |
Racer X Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:50:09pm |
re: #752 HoosierHoops
BoilSteam em for 20 minutes...dip the leaves in Mayo....Is there nothing better than the heart? Delicious ....
fixed
| 777 |
itellu3times Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:50:16pm |
| 778 |
wiffersnapper Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:50:21pm |
re: #773 JacksonTn
I'm surprised he didn't type it all in caps!
| 779 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:50:39pm |
re: #771 albusteve
it's 100deg every day down here....by 3o'clock in the morning you'd better have a blanket....but....dry heat....hahaha!
It does make a difference.
I have a blanket by 3 a.m., too, but it's because my A/C is set on 65.
| 780 |
Bobblehead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:50:46pm |
re: #769 Racer X
Steamed artichokes are great! Another favorite is tomato and mozzarella slices with Kalamata olives. Drizzle on some olive and and vinegar. Mmm..mmm!
Is that another California thing?
Nope. I think that's an Ohio thing.
| 782 |
srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:50:59pm |
re: #763 reine.de.tout
Before Taking the Last of the Ice Cream, ask yourself this question:
What Is Your Life Worth?
In this house, that goes for everyone else...and is enforced by me = )
(fortunately better half and I have different taste in ice cream, and neither kid can get into the freezer unassisted)
| 783 |
snowcrash Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:51:06pm |
re: #766 Lincolntf
Liked Krakauers "Into Thin Air". Will try it.
| 784 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:51:27pm |
re: #750 itellu3times
Results 1 - 10 of about 154,000,000 for wednesday night white house parties. (0.29 seconds)
/urgh
The link I had is no longer valid.
| 785 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:51:47pm |
re: #769 Racer X
Steamed artichokes are great! Another favorite is tomato and mozzarella slices with Kalamata olives. Drizzle on some olive and and vinegar. Mmm..mmm!
Is that another California thing?
oh lawd...Mushrooms made at the California Cafe or at Mustard's in the Valley.
Te best Deli is Perry's on 3rd street... The turkey is to die for....
| 786 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:51:57pm |
re: #775 MandyManners
That is true. I was thinking good neighbors having a talk about the why of doing what he was doing. But I live in a small town like this guys and would've hoped it could have been resolved more amicably.
| 787 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:52:06pm |
| 788 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:52:29pm |
| 789 |
Bobblehead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:52:31pm |
| 790 |
pink freud Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:52:40pm |
re: #771 albusteve
it's 100deg every day down here....by 3o'clock in the morning you'd better have a blanket....but....dry heat....hahaha!
I can handle 95% humidity day after day ....it's when we have two weeks straight of that on top of 103-105 that I begin to wilt. I can't breathe in those conditions.
| 791 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:52:41pm |
mushed arti hearts, some onion, some swiss, mayo and horseradish....best dip ever...(except my pimento dip, which, the recipe, I will sell for $2 to anyone who wants it)
| 792 |
itellu3times Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:52:43pm |
re: #765 Bobblehead
Unfortunately Gerard Butler has more testosterone in his little finger nail than the 0 has in his whole body. Any attempt to pull a "Sparta" on Mr. Short Shit would be an epic fail on the 0's part.
the trick is to have the talks next to a large open hole.
| 793 |
David Simon Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:52:44pm |
re: #732 pingjockey
Plus that other crazy woman who actually got rounds off. If Fromme had known her weapon Ford would've been dead.
Yeah, the middle aged one. Sara something, wasn't it?
| 794 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:52:47pm |
re: #783 snowcrash
Krakauer got me started on the whole "real-adventure" reading thing.
Into the Wild would have been a great novel, it's a shame that it wasn't.
| 795 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:52:54pm |
re: #787 reine.de.tout
Yoch - seriously - you've never had an artichoke?
Reine ... stuffed artichoke .... best food ever ...
| 796 |
jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:52:55pm |
re: #779 reine.de.tout
It does make a difference.
I have a blanket by 3 a.m., too, but it's because my A/C is set on 65.
I was just speculating today that we warm-state dwellers might have to move north if the economy keeps going south.
| 797 |
Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:53:25pm |
China discovers shoegaze - this is Faye Wong, singing the Cocteau Twins "Know Who You Are At Every Age":
| 798 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:54:05pm |
re: #793 David Simon
Yep, Sarah Jane Moore. Fromme had the 45 loaded, but no round chambered. Pres. Ford was damn lucky.
| 799 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:54:06pm |
re: #772 jaunte
Unfortunately, them is us taxpayers.
That's one reason why we must stay on the state's ass to not violate our rights.
| 800 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:54:07pm |
re: #791 albusteve
mushed arti hearts, some onion, some swiss, mayo and horseradish....best dip ever...(except my pimento dip, which, the recipe, I will sell for $2 to anyone who wants it)
forget it. I have a similar recipe, I've put it in the cookbook.
So there.
| 801 |
Bobblehead Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:54:11pm |
re: #792 itellu3times
the trick is to have the talks next to a large open hole.
But who would end up in the hole?
| 802 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:54:12pm |
re: #797 Jimmah
China discovers shoegaze - this is Faye Wong, singing the Cocteau Twins "Know Who You Are At Every Age":
[Video]
Jimmah .. in from the back door I see ... nice ... Whales still ...
| 803 |
Lawrior Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:54:19pm |
re: #764 legalpad
I do what I can to balance things out in this hippie enclave. I spend a lot of time in our live-music venues. I can discuss the merits of Kerby's queso v. the Mag Mud. Sadly, part of what really made Austin weird has left us with the massive population growth of the last 20 years. (sigh)
Basically, I just enjoy all that Austin has to offer, which is quite a lot. That does not mean that anybody else should move here.
| 805 |
~Fianna Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:54:45pm |
re: #761 MandyManners
He inveseted $200,000.00 of his own money into renovating a building so that he could open a restaurant with a bar.
Wouldn't it have made more sense to get the liquor license before spending the money?
| 806 |
Racer X Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:55:16pm |
re: #785 HoosierHoops
You ever have BBQ artichoke? Steam it for about 10 minutes then slice in half, remove the furry stuff, brush on olive oil then grill for another 10-15 minutes over medium heat. Nice!
| 807 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:55:23pm |
re: #779 reine.de.tout
It does make a difference.
I have a blanket by 3 a.m., too, but it's because my A/C is set on 65.
how rugged can you get?....you go Danielle Boone!
| 808 |
itellu3times Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:55:27pm |
| 810 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:55:46pm |
re: #796 jaunte
I was just speculating today that we warm-state dwellers might have to move north if the economy keeps going south.
No kidding!
If there's one bill that will always get paid on time, no matter what else we might have to do without, it's the electric bill. God forbid we ever get to a point when we couldn't afford the electric bill.
| 811 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:56:30pm |
re: #786 pingjockey
That is true. I was thinking good neighbors having a talk about the why of doing what he was doing. But I live in a small town like this guys and would've hoped it could have been resolved more amicably.
Maybe they also could've petitioned the city to give him that license.
| 812 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:56:36pm |
re: #779 reine.de.tout
It does make a difference.
I have a blanket by 3 a.m., too, but it's because my A/C is set on 65.
Reine ... I'm telling ... who do you thing you are ... someone from Hawaii by way of Chicago ... think of the children! ...
| 813 |
Racer X Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:57:05pm |
Hey, how is Lance doing in the "turd France"?
(the 12 year olds today were laughing over that one)
| 814 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:57:32pm |
re: #810 reine.de.tout
Wait for cap and trade to kick in! You folks who get your electricity from coal fired power plants are going to be howling when you see that bill!
| 815 |
Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:57:36pm |
re: #806 Racer X
You ever have BBQ artichoke? Steam it for about 10 minutes then slice in half, remove the furry stuff, brush on olive oil then grill for another 10-15 minutes over medium heat. Nice!
Nice!
We always just throw them in a pot of boiling water...great ideas tonight
| 816 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:57:50pm |
re: #800 reine.de.tout
forget it. I have a similar recipe, I've put it in the cookbook.
So there.
I was gonna submit my pimento dip...it's over a hundred years old!....I crushed
| 817 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:57:56pm |
| 818 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:57:59pm |
re: #758 Killian Bundy
Major banks say they will no longer accept California IOUs
/ruh roh
Why do I have the word "TIMMMMMBBBERRRRRRRRRR" running through my mind?
| 819 |
Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:58:26pm |
re: #802 JacksonTn
You probably won't find this version any more indecipherable than the original...;)
| 820 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:58:36pm |
re: #811 MandyManners
No shit! Small town, dude invests 200k for a restruarant, that's an investment in the town!
| 821 |
itellu3times Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:58:39pm |
well, just dragging around the house tonight, but I'm gonna put on 300 for background anyhow.
g'nite all
| 822 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:58:41pm |
re: #816 albusteve
I was gonna submit my pimento dip...it's over a hundred years old!....I crushed
Is 100=year-old pimento dip any good?
| 823 |
SteveC Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:58:44pm |
Guy dies and finds himself standing in line. At the front of the line is St. Peter, who questions everyone and then they either go through the Pearly Gates, or they go to the left and wait. Then the devil will poke them with his pitchfork and throw them in a wheelbarrow, and when the wheelbarrow fills up, he'll send them down a chute. But every now and again he'll grab them with the pitchfork, examine them carefully, and put them in a second pile.
Our guy is approved to pass the the Pearly Gates but curiosity has gotten the better of him, so he angles off to the left to talk to the devil. "Now it is not hard at all to figure out what you are doing, but what is this other pile? You look at these people carefully and then put them back down."
"Them?" The devil says. "Oh, they are from Seattle. They're too wet to burn."
| 824 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:59:33pm |
re: #820 pingjockey
No shit! Small town, dude invests 200k for a restruarant, that's an investment in the town!
Precisely! Don't towns need tax revenues?
| 825 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:59:46pm |
re: #822 reine.de.tout
Is 100=year-old pimento dip any good?
after fifty years it tends to get a little rancid...but still!...I wanna be somebody!
| 826 |
SteveC Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:00:16pm |
re: #794 Lincolntf
Krakauer got me started on the whole "real-adventure" reading thing.
Into the Wild would have been a great novel, it's a shame that it wasn't.
Into Thin Air. Freezing to death on Everest. No way.
| 827 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:00:17pm |
re: #825 albusteve
after fifty years it tends to get a little rancid...but still!...I wanna be somebody!
well, send it on in!
| 828 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:00:24pm |
re: #761 MandyManners
That's fine. Spending $200,000 doesn't particularly impress me, but if he wants to make a public stink with a US flag then he should be willing to deal with the ramifications.
As I said earlier, this was not a matter for the Law, it was a matter best dealt with by people who knew what the symbolism of his flag position implied. I'm guessing that some of the cops were Vets and couldn't walk away in good conscience so they took the flag. It's not a perfect system.
| 829 |
David Simon Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:01:08pm |
re: #758 Killian Bundy
From your link:
Freeman plans to sell her IOUs through a second business she owns, Auction Ten. The notes have a 3.75% interest rate and can be redeemed Oct. 2.
"There were a surprising number of people interested in buying the IOUs. Probably a dozen or so, talking from 10 cents to like 90 cents on the dollar," she said. "The banks were saying they weren't going to take them. Now it turns out there are other people who are interested in taking them."
The free market takes over.
/Now, Ahnold, do you have what it takes to get people to understand the days of sucking off the government teat are over?
| 830 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:01:11pm |
Sexiest video ever ... and is this still Saturday afternoon? ...
| 831 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:01:34pm |
re: #827 reine.de.tout
well, send it on in!
it will make you fat and happy!....seriously it's the real deal...
| 832 |
jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:02:11pm |
re: #770 yochanan
and you think 80 in aug. is a heat wave
We hit 90° yesterday. It's 8:00pm and 77°.....
It's not a heat wave?
| 833 |
GGMac Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:02:13pm |
re: #613 wee fury
One of my favorite ballads.
Thanks, wee fury - that's a lovely tribute. It really gave me goosebumps when he sang "Again...and again...and again".
There's an album - NOT the soundtrack, but titled: "(Music From And Inspired By) WE WERE SOLDIERS", that I'd guess you would like. Only a couple of the songs on it have been included on the various artists' own albums. The songs apparently were written/composed just for this album. All songs speak of soldiers at war, those left at home, etc, and some are exceptionally moving. Two of those, in particular, are "For You" by Johnny Cash/Dave Matthews, and "My Dear Old Friend" composed by Patty Griffin, and sung by Mary Chapin Carpenter. As best as I can find, Patty Griggin hasn't recorded it for any of her albums even. Charles is a Griffin fan - perhaps he knows. It has to be one of the lovliest songs ever composed.
| 834 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:02:41pm |
re: #831 albusteve
it will make you fat and happy!....seriously it's the real deal...
Send it in. click my nic for the cookbook blog, my e-mail address is there. Deadline was June 30, but for you - an exception will be made. Please send it in.
| 835 |
ArchangelMichael Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:02:43pm |
re: #727 MandyManners
I probably should not have focused as much on my perception of his motivations but they don't pass my Paulian smell test. It is factually a misuse of a widely recognized distress symbol. The rest are, however; my opinions. He never flat out said so.
I didn't mention the trampling of the constitution that happened after the fact because it was so completely and obviously wrong that I felt it went without saying. The cops are idiots and I'd do more than make them take classes on the constitution. I'd fire them and prosecute them. Fourth Amendment violations should also be a criminal offense, not just a "civil" one.
| 836 |
yochanan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:02:53pm |
| 837 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:03:28pm |
re: #828 Lincolntf
That's fine. Spending $200,000 doesn't particularly impress me, but if he wants to make a public stink with a US flag then he should be willing to deal with the ramifications.
As I said earlier, this was not a matter for the Law, it was a matter best dealt with by people who knew what the symbolism of his flag position implied. I'm guessing that some of the cops were Vets and couldn't walk away in good conscience so they took the flag. It's not a perfect system.
What "ramifications"? The police violating two constitutional rights?
As a vet, I am sure he knew exactly what that symbolism was. It's his RIGHT to fly it upside down. I don't like it but, neither I nor the police have the right to take things from people when they use them in offensive manners.
| 838 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:03:29pm |
re: #824 MandyManners
Well, that's what I used to think. But in the age of the one, small business is the enemy of the people and a bushwazee(spelled phonetically) influence!
| 839 |
yochanan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:03:52pm |
re: #826 SteveC
is that the one were the unprepared idiot dies in alaska?
| 840 |
Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:04:15pm |
One of the best songs to come out of the 'Madchester' scene - Inspiral Carpets, "Dragging Me Down".
| 841 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:04:23pm |
re: #835 ArchangelMichael
I probably should not have focused as much on my perception of his motivations but they don't pass my Paulian smell test. It is factually a misuse of a widely recognized distress symbol. The rest are, however; my opinions. He never flat out said so.
I didn't mention the trampling of the constitution that happened after the fact because it was so completely and obviously wrong that I felt it went without saying. The cops are idiots and I'd do more than make them take classes on the constitution. I'd fire them and prosecute them. Fourth Amendment violations should also be a criminal offense, not just a "civil" one.
Don't forget the First Amendment violation!
| 842 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:04:26pm |
re: #832 jcm
We hit 90° yesterday. It's 8:00pm and 77°.....
It's not a heat wave?
It's 10 pm here, and 84 degrees.
That's a heat wave.
| 843 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:04:30pm |
re: #832 jcm
What? It was 90 over there? Is your moss/yard dead yet?
| 844 |
n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:04:57pm |
re: #672 ArchangelMichael
It says:
So he was using a Paulian/Troofer symbol (taking the upside US flag meaning "distress" as in the US is in distress because of statists) implying that the US was a tyrannical police state because some stupid local bureaucracy denied his request for a liquor license. To me this screams Paulian drama queen.I hope he wins his case against the cops and sues the hell out of that town, but he shouldn't get a pass as being pure as driven snow.
Here's a win/win.
The police in the town stop buy every hour, knock on his door, and ask"I notice your flag is being flown upside down,are you in distress?"
Then repeat every hour, until he finds a better way to protest.
| 845 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:05:01pm |
re: #838 pingjockey
Well, that's what I used to think. But in the age of the one, small business is the enemy of the people and a bushwazee(spelled phonetically) influence!
I'm not laying this at the feet of FCBBHO.
| 846 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:05:07pm |
| 847 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:05:35pm |
re: #836 yochanan
this is what food looks like;
[Link: www.virtualweberbullet.com...]
You know that link says "forbidden"
| 849 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:06:24pm |
re: #844 n in wi
Here's a win/win.
The police in the town stop buy every hour, knock on his door, and ask"I notice your flag is being flown upside down,are you in distress?"
Then repeat every hour, until he finds a better way to protest.
The building is empty. Also, that would be a violation of his rights by harassing him for his right to political speech.
| 850 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:06:45pm |
| 851 |
Capitalistincharge Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:06:54pm |
re: #703 MandyManners You are correct, his business isn't open yet. The reason he isn't getting the liquor license is because he misrepresented his business on the application. Foolishly, he sunk 200 grand into the place before he had his license approved. How he has handled this pretty much guarentees that even if he does open he won't have any customers. The folks in the community are pissed. And, the cops (of which there are 2 full time and 4 part-time) were concerned, rightly so, that there would be real trouble once the parade reached his little corner of LaLa land. I suppose there will be a lot of court action on this and it will cost Crivitz more money than they have. Other veterans in the community did try to reason with him to no avail. Several even climbed the pole and removed it themselves after talking and trying to reason with him.
| 852 |
n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:07:07pm |
re: #818 MandyManners
Why do I have the word "TIMMMMMBBBERRRRRRRRRR" running through my mind?
Why do I have the word "BAILOUT" running through my mind?
| 853 |
yochanan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:07:14pm |
opened for me reine i guess if you like 'weeds' it might be forbidden for you.
| 854 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:07:19pm |
Maybe one quick resolution would be to grant him his liquor license.
| 855 |
Racer X Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:07:27pm |
| 856 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:08:18pm |
re: #851 Capitalistincharge
You are correct, his business isn't open yet. The reason he isn't getting the liquor license is because he misrepresented his business on the application. Foolishly, he sunk 200 grand into the place before he had his license approved. How he has handled this pretty much guarentees that even if he does open he won't have any customers. The folks in the community are pissed. And, the cops (of which there are 2 full time and 4 part-time) were concerned, rightly so, that there would be real trouble once the parade reached his little corner of LaLa land. I suppose there will be a lot of court action on this and it will cost Crivitz more money than they have. Other veterans in the community did try to reason with him to no avail. Several even climbed the pole and removed it themselves after talking and trying to reason with him.
I've not read that in the article.
| 857 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:08:39pm |
re: #852 n in wi
Why do I have the word "BAILOUT" running through my mind?
Haven't we bailed California out before?
| 858 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:08:40pm |
re: #850 MandyManners
Ah, my bad. I'll blame barry for a lot of shit that he deserves, but this ain't it. Most little towns like that around here would be going major league happy for a new business.
| 859 |
n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:08:40pm |
re: #849 MandyManners
The building is empty. Also, that would be a violation of his rights by harassing him for his right to political speech.
Thats free speech like yelling for help or calling out fire.
| 860 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:09:05pm |
re: #853 yochanan
opened for me reine i guess if you like 'weeds' it might be forbidden for you.
an artichoke is not a "weed".
It is a "thistle".
(I'm not really sure there's a difference)
Link said I did not have permission to open "rib roast" something.
| 861 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:09:19pm |
re: #837 MandyManners
Theoretically, it's my "right" to say whatever I want, whenever I want, but in reality you can't even get away with that on the Internet.
The "Law" should not have taken the flag, as I've said multiple times, but I don't blame the actual cops one bit. They had to do a little ppwk., they returned the flag, the idiot can once again pretend he's under attack, and life goes on.
My outrage meter registered this one, but only a little bit.
| 862 |
Capitalistincharge Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:10:06pm |
re: #856 MandyManners
I have intimate knowledge and much has not been in the news.
| 864 |
srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:10:50pm |
Ok...time for me to get some sleep...catch y'all about fruitcup time (oddly enough, that's when I get up for work)
Have a great night!
| 865 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:10:59pm |
re: #859 n in wi
Thats free speech like yelling for help or calling out fire.
What is? Flying the flag upside down?
| 867 |
Racer X Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:12:05pm |
re: #857 MandyManners
Haven't we bailed California out before?
Please throw us more money! We're too big to fail!
| 868 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:12:06pm |
re: #861 Lincolntf
Theoretically, it's my "right" to say whatever I want, whenever I want, but in reality you can't even get away with that on the Internet.
The "Law" should not have taken the flag, as I've said multiple times, but I don't blame the actual cops one bit. They had to do a little ppwk., they returned the flag, the idiot can once again pretend he's under attack, and life goes on.
My outrage meter registered this one, but only a little bit.
My outrage is that the police violated two rights willfully and knowingly.
| 869 |
n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:12:22pm |
| 870 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:12:35pm |
re: #862 Capitalistincharge
I have intimate knowledge and much has not been in the news.
What did he lie about on the application?
| 872 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:13:08pm |
re: #865 MandyManners
Yes. The upside down flag is a universal cry for help among the military. He's a Vet (as you pointed out) so he knows that.
| 873 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:13:28pm |
re: #859 n in wi
Ummm....I don't think so. You don't have the right to call out fire! in a crowded theatre if there's no fire. The flag upside down is a sign of distress. A sign, not the same as a shout in a theatre, IMO.
| 874 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:14:01pm |
re: #867 Racer X
Please throw us more money! We're too big to fail!
What happens if they aren't bailed out? CHIP doesn't get paid? Other government workers don't get paid? Will Arnie not get his $1.00 salary?
| 875 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:14:14pm |
re: #834 reine.de.tout
Send it in. click my nic for the cookbook blog, my e-mail address is there. Deadline was June 30, but for you - an exception will be made. Please send it in.
ruh roh!...I gotta deliver?...let me find it...
| 876 |
yochanan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:14:29pm |
re: #867 Racer X
Please throw us more money! We're too big to fail!
and if they fail all the californicators will come to your state and fornicate it up real good.
| 877 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:14:40pm |
re: #873 pingjockey
If you saw it flying on a base or a ship, what would you think it meant? It doesn't change meaning just because it changes location.
| 878 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:15:01pm |
| 879 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:15:55pm |
re: #874 MandyManners
I think we're going to find out. If they banks won't take IOUs, they've got a serious situation. Literally the state is broke.
| 880 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:16:02pm |
re: #872 Lincolntf
Yes. The upside down flag is a universal cry for help among the military. He's a Vet (as you pointed out) so he knows that.
I acknolwedged that way up thread. That doesn't make what the police did correct.
| 881 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:17:46pm |
re: #877 Lincolntf
If you saw it flying on a base or a ship, what would you think it meant? It doesn't change meaning just because it changes location.
EVERYONE knew the reason why he was flying it upside down. Just because they didn't agree with his use of HIS property on HIS property does not give the police the right to come onto his property without a warrant, take his property and infringe upon his right to speech.
| 882 |
legalpad Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:18:00pm |
re: #803 Lawrior
I do what I can to balance things out in this hippie enclave. I spend a lot of time in our live-music venues. I can discuss the merits of Kerby's queso v. the Mag Mud. Sadly, part of what really made Austin weird has left us with the massive population growth of the last 20 years. (sigh)
Basically, I just enjoy all that Austin has to offer, which is quite a lot. That does not mean that anybody else should move here.
I'm just getting where I have the time to spend in the live music venues. I think I've only been to The Shady Grove on Thursdays.
| 883 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:18:01pm |
re: #877 Lincolntf
I know that. Sheesh, the guy was an ass for doing it. The cops were double dumb asses for removing it. The flag had been up for a period of time as a statement, IMO not a call for help as we would understand it if we saw it flying somewhere else.
| 884 |
Capitalistincharge Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:18:07pm |
re: #870 MandyManners
He filed the business as a Supper Club which qualifies for a different class license than what his business really was, a beer and burger joint which qualifies for a different less extensive license. He knew what he was doing as his father owns a Supper Club in the area. He was trying to get one over and it didn't work out for him.
| 885 |
Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:18:09pm |
"The Historian" has crossed the line that separates man from open-thread-downdinging bum.
| 886 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:18:59pm |
re: #879 pingjockey
I think we're going to find out. If they banks won't take IOUs, they've got a serious situation. Literally the state is broke.
If I were in charge of this situation, I'd not give them one red cent until the state reduced its spending.
| 887 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:19:15pm |
re: #885 Jimmah
Who the hell is that? I don't remember seeing any posts with that nic?
| 888 |
jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:19:54pm |
re: #887 pingjockey
He posts links to his blog in the spinoffs.
| 889 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:19:57pm |
re: #886 MandyManners
If they won't take IOUs that is exactly what is happening.
| 890 |
n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:20:07pm |
re: #873 pingjockey
Ummm....I don't think so. You don't have the right to call out fire! in a crowded theatre if there's no fire. The flag upside down is a sign of distress. A sign, not the same as a shout in a theatre, IMO.
And a creative solution to the issue would be for the police to protect and serve,by responding to that distress signal.Even if the building were empty, repeated calls to the owner,in response to the signal,would have gone a long way in solving the issue,and likely cheaper than the lawsuits.
| 891 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:20:30pm |
re: #885 Jimmah
"The Historian" has crossed the line that separates man from open-thread-downdinging bum.
Who is this "The Historian"?
Surreptitious down-dinger?
| 892 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:20:45pm |
re: #889 pingjockey
If they won't take IOUs that is exactly what is happening.
they deserve it...there is money out there
| 894 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:20:58pm |
re: #884 Capitalistincharge
He filed the business as a Supper Club which qualifies for a different class license than what his business really was, a beer and burger joint which qualifies for a different less extensive license. He knew what he was doing as his father owns a Supper Club in the area. He was trying to get one over and it didn't work out for him.
Did the city give him a chance to amend the application?
| 895 |
n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:21:17pm |
re: #878 MandyManners
That doesn't make what the police did correct.
I didn't say it did. I offered an alternitve.
| 896 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:21:26pm |
re: #885 Jimmah
"The Historian" has crossed the line that separates man from open-thread-downdinging bum.
Who?
| 897 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:21:40pm |
re: #888 jaunte
So it posts links to its blog and down dings posts, but no posts of its own!
| 898 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:22:08pm |
re: #889 pingjockey
If they won't take IOUs that is exactly what is happening.
I'm talking about the feds, the people who will be asked to give the state money.
| 899 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:22:44pm |
re: #890 n in wi
And a creative solution to the issue would be for the police to protect and serve,by responding to that distress signal.Even if the building were empty, repeated calls to the owner,in response to the signal,would have gone a long way in solving the issue,and likely cheaper than the lawsuits.
That's harassment based on his right to speech.
| 900 |
jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:23:16pm |
re: #897 pingjockey
Spinoffs is mostly where I've seen the name.
| 902 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:24:38pm |
re: #895 n in wi
I didn't say it did. I offered an alternitve.
Your post said what an upside down flag signifies. I didn't see the alterntive until a post to someone else.
| 903 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:24:40pm |
re: #898 MandyManners
Oh, oops. I don't know why not. The treasury printing presses are running overtime now! I mean. they aren't spending their money. They're spending ours, our kids, and our grandkids money. The Kennedys, Klintoons, and Obamas of the world will get away with their ill gotten gains while they break everybody else.
| 904 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:26:15pm |
re: #903 pingjockey
Oh, oops. I don't know why not. The treasury printing presses are running overtime now! I mean. they aren't spending their money. They're spending ours, our kids, and our grandkids money. The Kennedys, Klintoons, and Obamas of the world will get away with their ill gotten gains while they break everybody else.
WAB's ill-gotten gains when she held that invented position at that hospital.
| 906 |
swamprat Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:27:01pm |
re: #885 Jimmah
"The Historian" has crossed the line that separates man from open-thread-downdinging bum.
| 907 |
n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:27:39pm |
re: #899 MandyManners
That's harassment based on his right to speech.
I'd argue that it would not be harassment as it would be responding to a sign that help was needed. I would not be proposing the same solution if he were burning the flag or wearing it as an article of clothing.
| 909 |
Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:28:57pm |
re: #901 swamprat
maybe he hit the wrong button
Could be. But then I tend to think that if someone was that enthusiastic about an open thread they'd at least post in it.
| 910 |
Capitalistincharge Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:29:47pm |
re: #894 MandyManners
The village and county reviewed his application and rejected it based on his menu and business model. He has to reapply with his application modified which will take a couple of months and then it has to be approved by both boards. He has two problems now. One, he lied the first go around and that will go against the character/ethics requirements and secondly, there may not be a Class A license available right now( the number available per Class is regulated).
| 911 |
Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:30:26pm |
| 912 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:31:18pm |
re: #907 n in wi
I'd argue that it would not be harassment as it would be responding to a sign that help was needed. I would not be proposing the same solution if he were burning the flag or wearing it as an article of clothing.
It would be exceedingly easy to prove that the police knew what they were doing was not responding to a sign of distress in need of immediate attention. The flag's been up there a while.
| 913 |
Aye Pod Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:32:53pm |
re: #864 srb1976
Ok...time for me to get some sleep...catch y'all about fruitcup time
I have this idea that every time 'little old lady' says "fruitcup is on the buffet" a Jason Bourne type operative somewhere is either activated or terminated.
| 915 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:34:01pm |
re: #910 Capitalistincharge
The village and county reviewed his application and rejected it based on his menu and business model. He has to reapply with his application modified which will take a couple of months and then it has to be approved by both boards. He has two problems now. One, he lied the first go around and that will go against the character/ethics requirements and secondly, there may not be a Class A license available right now( the number available per Class is regulated).
In the article, he states that he wanted to open an Italian supper club. Do you know what was his proposed menu?
Also, what if he screwed up and checked the wrong box/wrote in the wrong words. I don't see anyone submitting a menu for a beer bar while claiming he was looking to open a supper club.
| 916 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:35:09pm |
re: #881 MandyManners
Which is why I repeatedly said that the LAW had no business removing it, but I absolutely support the individuals who couldn't stomach seeing it. Let the cops take a day off without pay or something, but this is last on the list of abuses of Governmental power that bother me.
I'd have probably done the same thing the police did. Cops are human (and American) and have visceral reactions. An upside down flag is a trigger to a lot of people much like a burning flag is. I don't want to see it, and if it costs me my job to stop it, then so be it.
| 919 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:38:27pm |
re: #916 Lincolntf
Which is why I repeatedly said that the LAW had no business removing it, but I absolutely support the individuals who couldn't stomach seeing it. Let the cops take a day off without pay or something, but this is last on the list of abuses of Governmental power that bother me.
I'd have probably done the same thing the police did. Cops are human (and American) and have visceral reactions. An upside down flag is a trigger to a lot of people much like a burning flag is. I don't want to see it, and if it costs me my job to stop it, then so be it.
you might think twice about that if you have mouths to feed at home eh?...providing for your family is more important
| 920 |
n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:40:55pm |
re: #912 MandyManners
Then my proposed solution could have started as soon as the flag was flown upside down.
The police could use an argument like;
If a car,parked in a driveway, has one of those cardboard fold out "HELP" sunscreens signs in the windshield,they would be obligated to check it out until it was removed,as it would be the only way to determine if help was needed.
| 921 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:42:07pm |
re: #919 albusteve
you might think twice about that if you have mouths to feed at home eh?...providing for your family is more important
albusteve ... exactly ... why give the SOB the satisfaction ...
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MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:42:07pm |
re: #916 Lincolntf
Which is why I repeatedly said that the LAW had no business removing it, but I absolutely support the individuals who couldn't stomach seeing it. Let the cops take a day off without pay or something, but this is last on the list of abuses of Governmental power that bother me.
I'd have probably done the same thing the police did. Cops are human (and American) and have visceral reactions. An upside down flag is a trigger to a lot of people much like a burning flag is. I don't want to see it, and if it costs me my job to stop it, then so be it.
Did you read the article? The county's attorney general TOLD the police to do this. He TOLD the police to violate the right not to have the state enter your property to seize property and the right to experss yourself. This is high on the list of consitutional violations.
| 923 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:42:09pm |
re: #919 albusteve
Was it Patrick Henry that said "I may disagree with what you have to say, but will defend to the death your right to say it". Bad quote probably, but that is the 1st amendment. What if some fool down the street is flying a Hamas flag? Offensive as hell, but it is their RIGHT.
| 924 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:42:43pm |
re: #919 albusteve
I do have mouths to feed. Are you assuming that all of those cops were single and childless? Didn't see that in the report.
| 925 |
ShanghaiEd Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:43:14pm |
re: #907 n in wi
I'd argue that it would not be harassment as it would be responding to a sign that help was needed. I would not be proposing the same solution if he were burning the flag or wearing it as an article of clothing.
After somebody responded the first time and was told help wasn't needed, wouldn't further responses be simple harassment? It wouldn't be as if they were responding in good faith, after that point.
| 926 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:44:05pm |
re: #920 n in wi
Then my proposed solution could have started as soon as the flag was flown upside down.
The police could use an argument like;
If a car,parked in a driveway, has one of those cardboard fold out "HELP" sunscreens signs in the windshield,they would be obligated to check it out until it was removed,as it would be the only way to determine if help was needed.
Apples and oranges.
This guy was using that flag to make political speech. That fold-out sign in a car is not used as political expression.
| 927 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:44:39pm |
re: #922 MandyManners
I read the article and I saw exactly what you saw. You see a Constitutional crisis and I see a police force that dealt (ham-handedly perhaps) with a dope who thought that his permit problems were a national emergency.
| 928 |
Capitalistincharge Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:45:48pm |
Mandy: The guy had to submit his menu and much more. He was trying to obtain a Class A license instead of a more limiting class B. He lied and got caught. His menu had sandwiches and fish fry which doesn't qualify as a Supper Club (which is the far North's answer to a fine dining establishment which means you wear clean jeans and a freshly laundered flannel shirt) The police and residents have tried to reason with the guy. They wanted him to protest a less offensive way. Lots of veterans and patriots in that neck of the woods. He is eating up all of the publicity and the media is helping him by presenting one side of the story.
| 929 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:45:52pm |
re: #924 Lincolntf
I do have mouths to feed. Are you assuming that all of those cops were single and childless? Didn't see that in the report.
I'm assuming that a man that put his family above vets for financial reasons would therefore not risk losing his job for some construed ideology...
| 930 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:47:33pm |
re: #929 albusteve
Thank God nobody takes reduced pay to serve in the military, huh? Hate to see them abandon their families that way. Reservists must really hate their kids.
| 931 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:48:04pm |
re: #923 pingjockey
Was it Patrick Henry that said "I may disagree with what you have to say, but will defend to the death your right to say it". Bad quote probably, but that is the 1st amendment. What if some fool down the street is flying a Hamas flag? Offensive as hell, but it is their RIGHT.
I have a problem with the authorities telling me how to fly a flag...pretty simple...there is no more to it no matter how much one needs to talk it to death
| 932 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:49:28pm |
re: #931 albusteve
It sucks and we're beating it to death! Oh, well. I don't think any of us here are going anywhere. :)
| 933 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:50:18pm |
re: #930 Lincolntf
Thank God nobody takes reduced pay to serve in the military, huh? Hate to see them abandon their families that way. Reservists must really hate their kids.
nice dodge...I'm not fooled....you resist subsidizing vets because of the cost yet you would toss away your job over a flag....it's your thing...splitting hairs will not change what you said
| 934 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:51:16pm |
re: #927 Lincolntf
I read the article and I saw exactly what you saw. You see a Constitutional crisis and I see a police force that dealt (ham-handedly perhaps) with a dope who thought that his permit problems were a national emergency.
I don't see a constitutional crisis. That involves a conflict between
two branches of the government on a federal level. That is a rare situation.
I see where the county attorney told armed representatives of the city to go onto private property to seize property without a warrant in an effort to deny an American his right to express himself.
I don't see in the article the guy claiming that this is a national emergency.
| 935 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:51:28pm |
re: #932 pingjockey
It sucks and we're beating it to death! Oh, well. I don't think any of us here are going anywhere. :)
I'm going to hell...you can go to Texas
| 936 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:51:34pm |
re: #933 albusteve
I am a Vet, Albus.
And I wouldn't change a word of what I said.
| 937 |
Capitalistincharge Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:52:21pm |
The police probably saved the idiots life by taking down that flag for the 4th. Every resident of Crivitz, including the 12 year olds own guns, lots and lots of guns. It could've gotten real ugly.
| 938 |
n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:52:27pm |
re: #926 MandyManners
Apples and oranges.
This guy was using that flag to make political speech. That fold-out sign in a car is not used as political expression.
So the police check on what they see as a distress signal at 9:00 am.
The guy says " Nope, no distress here, it's a political statement.
How do they know at 10:00 pm, that the signal being displayed has not become a sign of distress,not a political sign?
| 939 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:52:27pm |
re: #935 albusteve
Heh! I hear parts of Texas are hotter than Hell.
| 940 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:52:53pm |
re: #936 Lincolntf
I am a Vet, Albus.
And I wouldn't change a word of what I said.
ain't America great!....but if you are a cop stay off my property without a court order
| 941 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:52:54pm |
re: #928 Capitalistincharge
Mandy: The guy had to submit his menu and much more. He was trying to obtain a Class A license instead of a more limiting class B. He lied and got caught. His menu had sandwiches and fish fry which doesn't qualify as a Supper Club (which is the far North's answer to a fine dining establishment which means you wear clean jeans and a freshly laundered flannel shirt) The police and residents have tried to reason with the guy. They wanted him to protest a less offensive way. Lots of veterans and patriots in that neck of the woods. He is eating up all of the publicity and the media is helping him by presenting one side of the story.
I sitll don't see how he expected to get the licensing board to think he wanted a supper club when he also submitted the menu for a beer bar. Did he think no one would notice the discrepancy?
| 942 |
Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:53:18pm |
Flight attendants seeing red over red dresses
The Northwest chapter of the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA has filed a grievance with the world's largest airline operator, asking it to offer the red dress up to size 28
I don't know womens sizing, but I would think a size 28 couldn't even fit down the aisle
| 943 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:53:34pm |
re: #937 Capitalistincharge
Then the 'good' citizens need to get a grip on themselves!
| 944 |
jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:53:48pm |
re: #939 pingjockey
Heh! I hear parts of Texas are hotter than Hell.
It's 85 degrees right now in Houston, at 10:53 pm.
| 945 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:53:56pm |
re: #929 albusteve
I'm assuming that a man that put his family above vets for financial reasons would therefore not risk losing his job for some construed ideology...
What "construed ideology"?
| 946 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:54:19pm |
| 947 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:54:48pm |
re: #939 pingjockey
Heh! I hear parts of Texas are hotter than Hell.
oppressive...Texans invented Hell I understand
| 948 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:54:59pm |
re: #944 jaunte
It's almost 9pm here in eastern Wa and it's 86.
| 949 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:55:16pm |
re: #937 Capitalistincharge
The police probably saved the idiots life by taking down that flag for the 4th. Every resident of Crivitz, including the 12 year olds own guns, lots and lots of guns. It could've gotten real ugly.
Then, they need to restrain those folks.
| 950 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:55:55pm |
re: #947 albusteve
And Heaven too, to hear it told by some Texans I have been stationed with!
| 951 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:56:46pm |
re: #945 MandyManners
What "construed ideology"?
defending flags rights rather than tax paying citizens rights...I'm thinking the guy can do whatever he want's with his flag
| 952 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:56:50pm |
re: #938 n in wi
So the police check on what they see as a distress signal at 9:00 am.
The guy says " Nope, no distress here, it's a political statement.
How do they know at 10:00 pm, that the signal being displayed has not become a sign of distress,not a political sign?
Because they knew what he had meant to do when he ran that flag up the pole.
| 953 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:57:30pm |
| 955 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:58:22pm |
re: #951 albusteve
defending flags rights rather than tax paying citizens rights...I'm thinking the guy can do whatever he want's with his flag
And, it's his property they entered to seize it without a warrant.
| 957 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:58:44pm |
re: #946 Lincolntf
As long as you aren't sending out a distress signal I will.
(I'm not a cop.)
you know damned well it's not a distress signal...that's what I mean about your idealism....common sense is dead
| 958 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:58:48pm |
re: #953 albusteve
Holy Heatwave Batman! That's almost as bad as being over in the PG!
| 959 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:00:06pm |
re: #954 jaunte
I understand that it's a "dry heat."
mercifully...and I'm at 5000k ft...coolness soon come...this ain't Indiana
| 960 |
jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:01:12pm |
re: #959 albusteve
That's one of the nice things about New Mexico; you can change your altitude quickly.
| 961 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:02:12pm |
re: #951 albusteve
I think part of the problem here is that we're coming from opposite experiences. I lived the bulk of my life in MA where (in recent years) the proper display of the flag has become tantamount to a hate-crime in some localities. You think I'm exaggerating, I'm sure, but I am not.
It's a bit late for me to get into it, but tomorrow I'll regale you with tales about flag flaps (ranging from Holy Cross to the Interstate highways) that might explain my hyper-sensitivity to the deliberate mis-use of Old Glory.
| 962 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:03:40pm |
re: #960 jaunte
That's one of the nice things about New Mexico; you can change your altitude quickly.
everywhere I go from home is uphill...uphill is cooler...I drive across town and look back over the valley from over a 1000ft higher...neat
| 963 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:03:58pm |
re: #957 albusteve
Common sense is dead? i've now stated in EVERY SINGLE POST about this topic that it wasn't the roile of the Gov't. to step in. I think reading comprehension is dead.
| 964 |
Capitalistincharge Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:04:40pm |
Oh for Christ Sakes! The citizens of Crivitz are really good people. Every so often the new village idiot makes an appearance and tests the patience of all 553 of the residents.
| 965 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:04:50pm |
re: #961 Lincolntf
I think part of the problem here is that we're coming from opposite experiences. I lived the bulk of my life in MA where (in recent years) the proper display of the flag has become tantamount to a hate-crime in some localities. You think I'm exaggerating, I'm sure, but I am not.
It's a bit late for me to get into it, but tomorrow I'll regale you with tales about flag flaps (ranging from Holy Cross to the Interstate highways) that might explain my hyper-sensitivity to the deliberate mis-use of Old Glory.
I don't give a shit about flags....property I care about...don't tread on me
| 966 |
elBarto Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:06:18pm |
So if the guy was beating his puppy in his house would it be wrong for the police to take the puppy? its his property after all.
| 967 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:06:19pm |
re: #963 Lincolntf
Common sense is dead? i've now stated in EVERY SINGLE POST about this topic that it wasn't the roile of the Gov't. to step in. I think reading comprehension is dead.
you would forfeit your job over a flag, but resist higher taxes to subsidize vets...in your own words...there is no more to it
| 968 |
n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:06:22pm |
re: #952 MandyManners
Because they knew what he had meant to do when he ran that flag up the pole.
Then if I were to decide that I will use a distress signal ,such as calling 911 and not saying a word, as a form of political protest, the police should not respond the second time I call
[ You do realize I was being a bit facetious in my alternative solution,and that I'm just drawing it out as far as I can? I also get the point of it being harassment.]
| 969 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:06:34pm |
re: #961 Lincolntf
I think part of the problem here is that we're coming from opposite experiences. I lived the bulk of my life in MA where (in recent years) the proper display of the flag has become tantamount to a hate-crime in some localities. You think I'm exaggerating, I'm sure, but I am not.
It's a bit late for me to get into it, but tomorrow I'll regale you with tales about flag flaps (ranging from Holy Cross to the Interstate highways) that might explain my hyper-sensitivity to the deliberate mis-use of Old Glory.
I'll tell you what really sickens me are businesses (usually car dealerships) that use the American flag as a way to draw the eye to them while not keeping the flag in good shape. I've actually gone into businesses that fly flags in bad shape to tell them it's time to get a new one up ASAP.
| 970 |
Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:06:35pm |
Midnight, gotta go to bed.
If I'm leaving anyone hanging, just remind me tomorrow and I'll pick up where we left off.
| 972 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:07:42pm |
re: #964 Capitalistincharge
Oh for Christ Sakes! The citizens of Crivitz are really good people. Every so often the new village idiot makes an appearance and tests the patience of all 553 of the residents.
They need to remind the county attrorney and the police that everyone's rights are guaranteed by the Constitution.
| 974 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:08:30pm |
re: #969 MandyManners
Thank you. I embarrassed a friend of my dads by buying him a new flag.
| 975 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:08:34pm |
re: #969 MandyManners
I'll tell you what really sickens me are businesses (usually car dealerships) that use the American flag as a way to draw the eye to them while not keeping the flag in good shape. I've actually gone into businesses that fly flags in bad shape to tell them it's time to get a new one up ASAP.
the flag is a pop icon more than ever...I don't like it either, but there is little to be done about it that makes any sense
| 976 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:08:56pm |
| 977 |
Shug Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:09:33pm |
| 978 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:09:37pm |
re: #966 elBarto
So if the guy was beating his puppy in his house would it be wrong for the police to take the puppy? its his property after all.
WTF? Where in the Bill of Rights are we guaranteed the right to beat puppies? I've missed that amendment.
| 979 |
elBarto Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:10:03pm |
re: #976 albusteve
Obviously you ar not a democrat with an attitude like that. ;0)
| 980 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:10:03pm |
re: #973 elBarto
You can beat the hell out of your car with a hammer. Try that with an animal and see what happens. If one of your neighbors doesn't beat the hell out of you before the cops get there.
| 981 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:10:24pm |
re: #968 n in wi
Then if I were to decide that I will use a distress signal ,such as calling 911 and not saying a word, as a form of political protest, the police should not respond the second time I call
[ You do realize I was being a bit facetious in my alternative solution,and that I'm just drawing it out as far as I can? I also get the point of it being harassment.]
It's illegal to call 911 if you're not reporting an emergency.
| 982 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:10:54pm |
| 983 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:11:12pm |
| 984 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:11:15pm |
re: #981 MandyManners
That is a fact. Do that enough and your happy ass will be arrested.
| 986 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:11:52pm |
re: #974 pingjockey
Thank you. I embarrassed a friend of my dads by buying him a new flag.
Good for you. I bet he always checked its state after that.
| 987 |
Capitalistincharge Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:12:35pm |
re: #972 MandyManners
Indeed, and I am certain that we will see how this all plays out in Asswipe vs Village of crivitz.
Good night all, must put this tired old body to bed.
| 989 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:12:54pm |
re: #975 albusteve
the flag is a pop icon more than ever...I don't like it either, but there is little to be done about it that makes any sense
That's the thing about having rights: we don't have to like how others use theirs but, we cannot keep them from using them.
| 990 |
JacksonTn Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:14:01pm |
re: #982 albusteve
I share bro...jus sayin
albusteve ... don't bogart that joint that joint ... my friend ... hahaha ... you know I had to do it ... sweet ..
| 991 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:14:51pm |
re: #984 pingjockey
That is a fact. Do that enough and your happy ass will be arrested.
I demanded the police chew out The Kid when he repeatedly called 911 when he first learned about it. I told the cop to stop playing Officer Friendly and breathe some hell-fire.
| 992 |
n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:15:07pm |
re: #981 MandyManners
It's illegal to call 911 if you're not reporting an emergency.
As it is also illegal to signal distress when not in distress. If not originally aware of the distress sign, he could have been informed of that at the first visit from the police.
| 993 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:15:19pm |
re: #987 Capitalistincharge
Indeed, and I am certain that we will see how this all plays out in Asswipe vs Village of crivitz.
Good night all, must put this tired old body to bed.
Sweet dreams!
| 994 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:16:18pm |
re: #991 MandyManners
Heh! My middle one did the same thing. Police and fire showed up! Scared the crap out of him!
| 995 |
elBarto Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:16:29pm |
nor do I advocate the seizure of private property by the police with out a warrant.
I'm just a rabble rouser sometimes.
| 996 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:16:46pm |
re: #990 JacksonTn
of course Little Feat does a killer cover of that song...Lowell George helped write that I believe...it's still a Feat anthem...Lowell comes from Fraternity of Man, then Zappa then Feat...much coolness
| 997 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:17:14pm |
re: #992 n in wi
As it is also illegal to signal distress when not in distress. If not originally aware of the distress sign, he could have been informed of that at the first visit from the police.
He WAS signalling distress, his distress at having his liquor license turned down. It is NOT illegal to hang a flag upside down. And, of course he knew what that meant--he's a veteran of Iraq.
| 998 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:17:43pm |
re: #994 pingjockey
Heh! My middle one did the same thing. Police and fire showed up! Scared the crap out of him!
FD, too? That's a bit extreme.
| 999 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:18:02pm |
re: #989 MandyManners
That's the thing about having rights: we don't have to like how others use theirs but, we cannot keep them from using them.
right get pissy...but you gotta go with the higher principle...I try
| 1000 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:18:18pm |
re: #995 elBarto
nor do I advocate the seizure of private property by the police with out a warrant.
I'm just a rabble rouser sometimes.
Do tell.
| 1001 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:19:36pm |
re: #999 albusteve
right get pissy...but you gotta go with the higher principle...I try
It's not just principle. It's the law.
| 1002 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:20:27pm |
re: #998 MandyManners
IIRC, I was at work and he called 911 twice!
| 1003 |
albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:21:49pm |
re: #1001 MandyManners
It's not just principle. It's the law.
I know...OTOH my principles supersedes the the law sometimes...and I've paid dearly for it
| 1004 |
pingjockey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:21:51pm |
re: #998 MandyManners
Also he may have said there was a fire. Don't remember, His grandma told it best. seems he tried to hold the door shut when the cop was told to come in!
| 1006 |
MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:24:31pm |
A new thread? Man, I can have some serious tunnel vision.
| 1007 |
n in wi Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:30:26pm |
re: #997 MandyManners
He WAS signalling distress, his distress at having his liquor license turned down. It is NOT illegal to hang a flag upside down. And, of course he knew what that meant--he's a veteran of Iraq.
His "distress" of not getting a liquor license is akin to the gal that called 911 because McDonalds was out of chicken nuggets.
I thought you were making the argument for upside down flag being a political statement.
I am making the point that the police could respond to a distress signal, until that signal is removed.
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