Glenn Beck: It All Started to Go Wrong With the Civil War

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Yes, this is the second post about Glenn “Manbaby” Beck today, because on his radio show he managed to top his hero-worship of Joe McCarthy, by saying that race relations went wrong “in the lead-up to the Civil War.”

Because according to Beck, before that “we were moving on the right track.” Un-freaking-believable.

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“The things that have happened in this country, where it really started to go wrong, was in the lead-up to the Civil War. And it became politicized, and it was all about slavery. Before then, we were moving on the right track.”

As bizarre as this opinion may seem, this is simply another front in the right’s ongoing campaign of historical revisionism. You may remember that at CPAC 2010, one of the workshops was titled “Friend or Foe? Abraham Lincoln on Liberty,” sponsored by Ron Paul’s Campaign for Liberty organization. The Ron Paulians, aided by racist neo-Confederate throwbacks like Lew Rockwell and Robert Stacy McCain, have been pushing the demonization of Abraham Lincoln to the right wing for years, and it’s beginning to go mainstream.

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334 comments
1 freetoken  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:17:56pm

Beck should be congratulated. He has clearly stolen the brass ring from Rush Limbaugh in the carnival of the wingnuts.

2 dell*nix  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:18:38pm

Calling Beck a loon is an insult to loons.

3 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:18:59pm

Bizarre as it seems to reality-based people, Beck's message will probably resonate well with those who are steeped in the revisionist traditions of The Lost Cause.

4 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:20:18pm

re: #3 Shiplord Kirel

Bizarre as it seems to reality-based people, Beck's message will probably resonate well with those who are steeped in the revisionist traditions of The Lost Cause.

Like Robert Byrd?

5 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:20:42pm

*reminds self of Charles' admonishment against advocating violence*
Repeat
Lather
Rinse

6 freetoken  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:21:24pm

Heh, we only had to wait to post #4 this time....

7 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:22:08pm

well he may just have ended it all with this one.

8 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:22:19pm

re: #4 brookly red

Like Robert Byrd?

Dude moved past it and regretted it. That was good enough for me.

9 SpaceJesus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:22:36pm

is he trying to hint that the rise in Northerners' disgust with how the south was treating human beings as farm animals is somehow a bad thing?

i literally don't understand.

10 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:22:53pm

re: #6 freetoken

Heh, we only had to wait to post #4 this time...

oh come on both are nuts..

11 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:23:44pm

re: #6 freetoken

Heh, we only had to wait to post #4 this time...

he's a pertinent target

12 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:23:52pm

Beck is saying that slavery was really no big deal.

13 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:25:11pm

re: #4 brookly red

Like Robert Byrd?

Nah. Sen Byrd was just an ordinary racist. West Virginia made a big point of not being a Lost Cause state.

14 b_snark  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:25:18pm

Things were going in the right direction, blacks and whites were viewed as equals in war, given full honours when they died, and in church, they got to sit down and everything - as long as those durn blacks remained slaves.

By now, they would probably be allowed to ride anywhere on the bus, and maybe even considered more than 3/5ths of a man, but they would still be slaves.

Logic is not strong in this one.

15 Nimed  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:25:19pm

"And it became politicized, and it was all about slavery"

A pity the country's harmony was broken by such a trifling matter.

16 webevintage  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:25:49pm

re: #4 brookly red

Like Robert Byrd?

Jesus, that didn't take long.
I bet Beck was just joking right?
This is all just his dry humor that we don't get.
That blacks had no issues with being slaves, it was all the fault of those bleeding heart liberal commie abolitionists.


Seriously, Byrd renounced his support of the clan and his disgusting racist views years ago I'm kind of wondering when he will have proven himself in your eyes.

17 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:25:58pm

re: #12 Charles

Beck is saying that slavery was really no big deal.

Based on one assessment of George Washington and an anecdotal story of one church congregation. A rather limited set of evidence.

No doubt Glenn Beck is speaking to his congregation.

18 b_snark  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:26:04pm

re: #6 freetoken

Heh, we only had to wait to post #4 this time...

It depends on the time of day I guess.

19 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:26:56pm

re: #9 SpaceJesus

is he trying to hint that the rise in Northerners' disgust with how the south was treating human beings as farm animals is somehow a bad thing?

i literally don't understand.

That would appear to be the case. Heck, black veterans got full honors when they were buried in their segregated cemeteries and we had an integrated church somewhere so things were great until some crazed agitator decided to spin a trifle like chattel slavery into an issue.

That is almost literally what he said, so I won't be using a sarc tag this time.

20 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:27:11pm

Speaking of outrageous outrages, this one qualifies.

21 Dante41  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:27:34pm

I know this has been leveled at people undeserving of it over the years, but i have to ask it now:

Why does Glenn Beck hate America?

I mean, why does he hate the concept of freedom and justice for all? Why does he try to undo nearly a century and a half of progress? Why does he want to tear asunder this union and cast brother against brother once again?

Why does he pine for this nation's darkest hour?

22 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:27:41pm

Reposted from last thread:

So.

Since just anybody can form a militia in this country, I'm starting one of my own. You heard it here first.

It shall be called the "Anti-Racist, Anti-Hater, Anti-Pam Geller Militia, Maryland Division, 101st Fighting Baltimore Brigade".

Any joiners?

23 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:27:43pm

re: #16 webevintage

re: #18 b_sharp

I want credit for beating you to it, btw...

24 Kragar  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:27:50pm

Mr Beck, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent statement were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

25 prairiefire  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:27:56pm

re: #1 freetoken

Beck should be congratulated. He has clearly stolen the brass ring from Rush Limbaugh in the carnival of the wingnuts.

Rush is sooo jealous. He is loathe to mention Beck's name. They are having a pissing match over the tea partier's affections.

26 RadicalModerate  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:28:00pm

re: #10 brookly red

Baloney. For all of Byrd's faults, he has very publicly, and repeatedly apologized for his racist past, and his actions during the past 20-odd years back it up.
Compare this to the multitude of people on the right wing, who quite honestly are blowing the dogwhistle almost as loudly and frequently as they did during the 1960s.

27 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:28:10pm

re: #16 webevintage

Jesus, that didn't take long.
I bet Beck was just joking right?
This is all just his dry humor that we don't get.
That blacks had no issues with being slaves, it was all the fault of those bleeding heart liberal commie abolitionists.

Seriously, Byrd renounced his support of the clan and his disgusting racist views years ago I'm kind of wondering when he will have proven himself in your eyes.

I hear you and I think Beck is a nut (& he may also have just ended his career)
I just don't subscribe to the notion that all the nuts are in the same bowl... that is all.

28 webevintage  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:28:14pm

re: #21 Dante41

I know this has been leveled at people undeserving of it over the years, but i have to ask it now:

Why does Glenn Beck hate America?

I mean, why does he hate the concept of freedom and justice for all? Why does he try to undo nearly a century and a half of progress? Why does he want to tear asunder this union and cast brother against brother once again?

Why does he pine for this nation's darkest hour?

because it makes him money

29 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:29:18pm
You may remember that at CPAC 2010, one of the workshops was titled “Friend or Foe? Abraham Lincoln on Liberty,” sponsored by Ron Paul’s Campaign for Liberty organization. The Ron Paulians, aided by racist neo-Confederate throwbacks like Lew Rockwell and Robert Stacy McCain, have been pushing the demonization of Abraham Lincoln to the right wing for years, and it’s beginning to go mainstream.


The panel was hosted by Fox News contributor Andrew Nepalitano. the video of the event was posted on for news. I'm not sure if it's there anymore.

30 prairiefire  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:29:52pm

re: #22 Cato the Elder

Reposted from last thread:

So.

Since just anybody can form a militia in this country, I'm starting one of my own. You heard it here first.

It shall be called the "Anti-Racist, Anti-Hater, Anti-Pam Geller Militia, Maryland Division, 101st Fighting Baltimore Brigade".

Any joiners?

My family and I can over cooking services. I have a phobia about guns.

31 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:30:00pm

re: #16 webevintage

Jesus, that didn't take long.
I bet Beck was just joking right?
This is all just his dry humor that we don't get.
That blacks had no issues with being slaves, it was all the fault of those bleeding heart liberal commie abolitionists.

Seriously, Byrd renounced his support of the clan and his disgusting racist views years ago I'm kind of wondering when he will have proven himself in your eyes.

I know nothing of his renounciation...I don't trust him, politicians will say anything to get re-elected...maybe he was honest, I don't know but the stigma will last forever

32 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:30:33pm

re: #4 brookly red

Like Robert Byrd?

No, as Decatur Deb pointed out, West Viginia was not, and is not, a bastion of Lost Cause thinking.
As I point out in my page comments, Beck's remarks exactly reflect the Lost Cause view.

33 darthstar  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:30:47pm

re: #12 Charles

Beck is saying that slavery was really no big deal.

This is going to do wonders for his remaining advertisers.

34 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:30:48pm

re: #22 Cato the Elder

Reposted from last thread:

So.

Since just anybody can form a militia in this country, I'm starting one of my own. You heard it here first.

It shall be called the "Anti-Racist, Anti-Hater, Anti-Pam Geller Militia, Maryland Division, 101st Fighting Baltimore Brigade".

Any joiners?

I'll join if you call it the Abraham Lincoln Brigade.

35 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:31:23pm

bbl

36 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:31:29pm

re: #22 Cato the Elder

Reposted from last thread:

So.

Since just anybody can form a militia in this country, I'm starting one of my own. You heard it here first.

It shall be called the "Anti-Racist, Anti-Hater, Anti-Pam Geller Militia, Maryland Division, 101st Fighting Baltimore Brigade".

Any joiners?

I would be honored.

37 webevintage  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:31:32pm

re: #27 brookly red

I hear you and I think Beck is a nut (& he may also have just ended his career)
I just don't subscribe to the notion that all the nuts are in the same bowl... that is all.

They are not, but there is no reason to bring up Byrd in situations like this.
Or the Dixiecrats.
That is history.
Beck is here and now and a disgusting dangerous little man.
There have to be some prominent racists liberals you can think of human nature being what it is.

38 Dante41  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:31:36pm

re: #34 Decatur Deb

I'll join if you call it the Abraham Lincoln Brigade.

Echoes of the Spanish Civil War, eh?

39 b_snark  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:32:03pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel

That would appear to be the case. Heck, black veterans got full honors when they were buried in their segregated cemeteries and we had an integrated church somewhere so things were great until some crazed agitator decided to spin a trifle like chattel slavery into an issue.

That is almost literally what he said, so I won't be using a sarc tag this time.

That is exactly what he said.

Doesn't make any more sense when someone with a brain (you) tries to unpack it, does it?

40 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:32:43pm

re: #22 Cato the Elder

Reposted from last thread:

So.

Since just anybody can form a militia in this country, I'm starting one of my own. You heard it here first.

It shall be called the "Anti-Racist, Anti-Hater, Anti-Pam Geller Militia, Maryland Division, 101st Fighting Baltimore Brigade".

Any joiners?

you provide all the hardware and I'm in...give me an M4 with a grenade launcher please....

41 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:33:06pm

re: #3 Shiplord Kirel

Bizarre as it seems to reality-based people, Beck's message will probably resonate well with those who are steeped in the revisionist traditions of The Lost Cause.

I honestly think it's moving beyond that.

42 bratwurst  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:33:22pm

To provide some balance to the pointless Byrd name check (for the umpteenth time), here is a photo of a former GOP congressman/klansman. Enjoy.

Image: david-duke-1979.jpg

43 b_snark  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:33:32pm

re: #23 Aceofwhat?

re: #18 b_sharp

I want credit for beating you to it, btw...

You got a three pointer.

44 Only The Lurker Knows  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:33:43pm

re: #12 Charles

Beck is saying that slavery was really no big deal.

Perhaps he should try it on a personal level. Like seeing his wife or child being sold off on an auction block to the highest bidder.

45 zora  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:33:46pm

just when i think this man can't sicken me anymore. this is the kind of thing that used to be what crazy people talked about late at night on ham radios. what has fox news done? mainstreaming this crap is disgusting.

46 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:34:35pm

re: #11 albusteve

he's a pertinent target

No, he's just a perpetual target.

47 webevintage  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:34:49pm

I wonder if he has the balls to say this crap on TV?
Or is it just for the radio?

48 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:34:58pm

re: #37 webevintage

They are not, but there is no reason to bring up Byrd in situations like this.
Or the Dixiecrats.
That is history.
Beck is here and now and a disgusting dangerous little man.
There have to be some prominent racists liberals you can think of human nature being what it is.

well yes but I really can't go there... let it suffice to say that this is probably a career killer for Beck, and look at my logic.

49 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:35:22pm

re: #46 SanFranciscoZionist

No, he's just a perpetual target.

too bad....his legacy follows him around just like anybody else

50 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:35:28pm

re: #46 SanFranciscoZionist

No, he's just a perpetual boring target.

FTFY

51 webevintage  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:35:44pm

re: #48 brookly red

well yes but I really can't go there... let it suffice to say that this is probably a career killer for Beck, and look at my logic.

From you mouth to God's (Or Murdock's) ear....

52 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:36:11pm

re: #34 Decatur Deb

I'll join if you call it the Abraham Lincoln Brigade.

Dude, that's taken.

But we need a shorter name for our patches.

I'm open to suggestions.

53 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:36:40pm

re: #12 Charles

Beck is saying that slavery was really no big deal.

It would have all worked out if only the Abolitionists, and then the Federal government, and then the Civil Rights Movement, and so on, hadn't interfered.

Like the eejits who explain how women would naturally have gotten equal pay and shit like that without those man-hating feminists acting out like that.

54 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:37:58pm

re: #16 webevintage

Jesus, that didn't take long.
I bet Beck was just joking right?
This is all just his dry humor that we don't get.
That blacks had no issues with being slaves, it was all the fault of those bleeding heart liberal commie abolitionists.

Seriously, Byrd renounced his support of the clan and his disgusting racist views years ago I'm kind of wondering when he will have proven himself in your eyes.

I kind of figured when Strom Thurmond died, Byrd would be off the hook, but it ain't happened yet. Maybe when Byrd dies, but we're still kicking Murtha's corpse, so I doubt it.

55 Boogberg  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:38:35pm

re: #38 Dante41

Echoes of the Spanish Civil War, eh?

The Labyrinth

56 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:38:46pm

re: #47 webevintage

I wonder if he has the balls to say this crap on TV?
Or is it just for the radio?

I think he says that he's going to talk about this on TV tonight. no video on youtube yet.

57 Kragar  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:39:04pm

Unfortunately for Glen, I'll have to side with the historians who view the root cause of the Civil War as the oppressive miltitant stance of the South trying to impose their laws over the North, who failing to achieve their goals thru the democratic process, turned instead to secession and attacking the Federal government.

Kind of like the teabaggers today.

58 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:39:21pm

re: #22 Cato the Elder

Reposted from last thread:

So.

Since just anybody can form a militia in this country, I'm starting one of my own. You heard it here first.

It shall be called the "Anti-Racist, Anti-Hater, Anti-Pam Geller Militia, Maryland Division, 101st Fighting Baltimore Brigade".

Any joiners?

I'm on, if you understand that while I can be ready to fight in under a minute, it will probably take me several days to actually get to Baltimore.

59 Kragar  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:39:26pm

re: #55 Boogberg

The Labyrinth

The Goblin King?

60 Dante41  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:39:55pm

re: #56 Killgore Trout

I think he says that he's going to talk about this on TV tonight. no video on youtube yet.

Oh my. I want to watch this trainwreck in realtime, but I don't want to give him views. Oh, conundrum.

61 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:40:03pm

re: #52 Cato the Elder

Dude, that's taken.

But we need a shorter name for our patches.

I'm open to suggestions.

OK, then SVCC (Student Violent Coordinating Committee). I'm into retro.

62 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:40:35pm

re: #58 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm on, if you understand that while I can be ready to fight in under a minute, it will probably take me several days to actually get to Baltimore.

time to do your nails along the way

63 darthstar  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:40:37pm

re: #47 webevintage

I wonder if he has the balls to say this crap on TV?
Or is it just for the radio?

I think it was just the radio, but expect the blow-back to be just as extreme as when he called the president a racist.

64 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:40:55pm

re: #52 Cato the Elder

Dude, that's taken.

But we need a shorter name for our patches.

I'm open to suggestions.

And honorably taken in the anti-fascist cause.

How about the 2nd AL Brigade?

Or simply the All-American Brigade?

William

65 Ojoe  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:40:58pm

Demonizing Lincoln! I can't let that go. The man was a saint. Here is what some of his contemporaries said of him:

This is from the book “Harper’s Pictorial History of the Civil War” (Fairfax Press, republished; originally published 1866. Authored by Alfred H. Gurnsey and Henry M. Alden, editors of Harper’s 1856 to 1869, and 1869 to 1919 respectively).

In two posts; it's a bit long:

When the Republican National Convention assembled at Chicago on the 16th of May, 1860, it was almost universally assumed that William H. Seward would be nominated for President. On the first ballot he stood far ahead of Lincoln; on the second he was three votes ahead; but on the third Lincoln stood fifty one votes ahead of Seward, and his nomination was then made unanimous. The people were scarcely as yet familiar with the name of Lincoln. They soon learned that he was an awkward, ungainly man, one who had risen from obscurity by perseverance, a man shrewd in debate and plain in speech, and who was known simply as “Honest old Abe”. But this awkward, plain man, without culture, and without that despotism of genius which commands admiration, God had taken by the hand, and had chosen as the champion of the republic at the most critical moment of its history. His very election was made the pretext for rebellion. But he accomplished nobly and wisely his great mission.

(snip)

67 webevintage  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:41:02pm

re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Goblin King?

David Bowie was hot in those tights...

68 Nimed  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:41:03pm

re: #22 Cato the Elder

Reposted from last thread:

So.

Since just anybody can form a militia in this country, I'm starting one of my own. You heard it here first.

It shall be called the "Anti-Racist, Anti-Hater, Anti-Pam Geller Militia, Maryland Division, 101st Fighting Baltimore Brigade".

Any joiners?

I'm in. We can organize barbecues and accidentally shoot each other in the woods. What more can a man person want out of life?

69 Ojoe  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:41:14pm

(continued)

Against the violence of rebellion he opposed the firmness of national authority, supported by the strong arm of patriots. Thus he won the confidence of the people. He had no love of arbitrary power, and indulged in no radical or revolutionary theories which could tempt him to such use of power. He was a conservative in the best sense of the term: not a conservator of party, but of national integrity.Thus he was better fitted to accomplish his divine mission. For it must be remembered that God, the great Disposer of all events, works not with the haste of man. Tares and wheat He lets grow together until the harvest, lest upon uprooting the tares upon impulse He uproot the wheat also. While Lincoln never vacillated, he was never in haste. He hesitated long before he issued his proclamation of emancipation. He laid it away, and weeks passed before he signed it — and then he acted in accordance with a solemn vow which he had made to God. Even after he issued this document he doubted weather the system of gradual and compensated emancipation might not be more just and better for the slaves. He looked on every side of every question, and was therefore slow in reaching conclusions. In Lincoln thought and prayer were mingled, and thus the final word which came in answer to thought and prayer sounded solemnly in his ears like the commandment of God. Following that voice, he had no doubt as to results: it was, “This do, and thou shalt be saved.”

In no life, perhaps, more that in Lincoln’s, did the outward appearance counterdict the inward fact and experience. A casual acquaintance with him would lead to the inference that he looked upon every subject only as the occasion of a joke or the point for an anecdote. But those who came nearer to him, or who carefully study the man, can not thus judge. Upon no man ever fell the weight of sadder care than upon him. Day by day he labored under a burden which he could not lay aside. Thus to his intimate friends he always seemed weary and sorrowful. In an equal degree his external awkwardness curiously contrasted with an inward grace and sweetness not common among men. He was as gentle as a woman. His compassion was infinite. As the hour of victory approached, when the enemies of the nation would lie prostrate at his feet, the desire nearest to his heart was to heal the wounds which the strife left open and bleeding, to pardon and restore. Thus, when the summer of triumph came, its glory wrapped him all about. He saw a nation restored, a race emancipated. He saw the seal of God set upon all which he had done. He looked upon a people inspired with solemn joy, and as their souls went up in anthems, his rose supreme above them all, crowned with an aureola such as never graced the head of Caesar or king.

70 RadicalModerate  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:41:36pm

Well, during the past couple of months we have people on the "libertarian" right openly talking about repealing the 14th, 16th and 17th Amendments. Why not go out full stop and bring the 13th into the mix as well?
Bad craziness doesn't even BEGIN to describe these people.

71 Boogberg  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:41:45pm

re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Two equally cruel combatants.

72 TampaKnight  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:41:56pm

For Father's Day, I bought my father the book "Tried by War: Abraham Lincoln as Commander in Chief". It's a tremendous book and he loves it so far.

And these fucking libertarian idiots who apparently hate Lincoln can kiss my ass.

73 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:42:25pm

OK, now just for fun, let us imagine Beck buy the farm over this... who is the heir apparent?

74 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:42:27pm

re: #64 wlewisiii

And honorably taken in the anti-fascist cause.

How about the 2nd AL Brigade?

Or simply the All-American Brigade?

William

I love to think you could find a brigade of us here in AL.

75 b_snark  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:42:28pm

re: #64 wlewisiii

And honorably taken in the anti-fascist cause.

How about the 2nd AL Brigade?

Or simply the All-American Brigade?

William

That leaves me out then.

76 Racer X  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:42:31pm

Glenn Beck - working just as hard as he can to guarantee Obama gets 8 years as pres.

77 Tigger2005  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:42:33pm

re: #21 Dante41

I know this has been leveled at people undeserving of it over the years, but i have to ask it now:

Why does Glenn Beck hate America?

I mean, why does he hate the concept of freedom and justice for all? Why does he try to undo nearly a century and a half of progress? Why does he want to tear asunder this union and cast brother against brother once again?

Why does he pine for this nation's darkest hour?

Cuz it makes for great ratings, bay-bee!

78 Dante41  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:42:53pm

re: #66 Killgore Trout

Here's a segment of tonight's tv show...
Beck suggests people have been misled into thinking "in the 1790s, blacks and whites hated each other, it was slavery"

That clap you just heard was every historian in the country facepalming.

79 Nimed  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:43:03pm

re: #58 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm on, if you understand that while I can be ready to fight in under a minute, it will probably take me several days to actually get to Baltimore.

If this is happening in Baltimore, I want a guided tour to The Wire filming locations.

80 TampaKnight  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:43:28pm

I seriously remember when Beck was on HLN and he was a normal, pretty calm, funny guy.

81 Lidane  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:43:48pm

re: #66 Killgore Trout

Here's a segment of tonight's tv show...
Beck suggests people have been misled into thinking "in the 1790s, blacks and whites hated each other, it was slavery"

I don't even know what to say to that. He's just a repellent human being.

82 Kragar  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:43:49pm

re: #64 wlewisiii

And honorably taken in the anti-fascist cause.

How about the 2nd AL Brigade?

Or simply the All-American Brigade?

William

Militant organized collective keeping everyone reasonably secure

or Mockers for short

83 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:43:54pm

re: #76 Racer X

Glenn Beck - working just as hard as he can to guarantee Obama gets 8 years as pres.

Beck doesn't care about...if BO wins again, Beck will continue his gig, he needs BO

84 webevintage  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:43:55pm

re: #73 brookly red

OK, now just for fun, let us imagine Beck buy the farm over this... who is the heir apparent?

It would be nice if no one was....

85 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:44:34pm

re: #74 Decatur Deb

I love to think you could find a brigade of us here in AL.

Heh, AL as Alabama as well as Abraham Lincoln :) Pity I can't PIMF my brain...

William

86 b_snark  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:45:03pm

re: #81 Lidane

I don't even know what to say to that. He's just a repellent human being.

He's been brain damaged by his popularity.

87 Boogberg  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:45:13pm

Lou Dobbs sure went off the rail.

88 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:45:42pm

re: #84 webevintage

It would be nice if no one was...

oh but there has to be someone ready to take his place... no business whould leave them selves that open.

89 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:46:10pm

re: #87 Boogberg

Lou Dobbs sure went off the rail.

yep, he wanted to secure our border...it was all downhill from there

90 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:46:25pm

re: #70 RadicalModerate

Well, during the past couple of months we have people on the "libertarian" right openly talking about repealing the 14th, 16th and 17th Amendments. Why not go out full stop and bring the 13th into the mix as well?
Bad craziness doesn't even BEGIN to describe these people.

I have to admit to a fascination with their willingness to disembowel the Constitution.

I know some people get upset when you say the Constitution is a living document, but I didn't realize that meant they wanted to KILL it.

91 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:46:27pm

re: #66 Killgore Trout

Here's a segment of tonight's tv show...
Beck suggests people have been misled into thinking "in the 1790s, blacks and whites hated each other, it was slavery"

Good lord.

I almost can't believe what I'm seeing in that one. David Barton, who gave speeches to white supremacist organizations, promoting the idea that things were just fine between whites and blacks before the Civil War.

This is Stormfront territory.

92 Racer X  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:46:49pm

re: #83 albusteve

Beck doesn't care about...if BO wins again, Beck will continue his gig, he needs BO

Whatever Glenn is doing - it is working. Obama will win re-election hands down. No matter how bad he screws up. Thanks Glenn! Thanks Sarah!

93 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:46:51pm

1790's America....
[Link: cache4.asset-cache.net...]


[Link: www.1st-art-gallery.com...]

94 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:47:10pm

re: #73 brookly red

OK, now just for fun, let us imagine Beck buy the farm over this... who is the heir apparent?

I nominate Debbie Schlussel. None of the others have ever responded to my criticism of them.

(Why would Beck buy the farm over THIS, exactly?)

95 Lidane  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:47:15pm

re: #91 Charles

This is Stormfront territory.

And it's being mainstreamed by Fox News. It's disgusting.

96 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:47:20pm

re: #88 brookly red

oh but there has to be someone ready to take his place... no business whould leave them selves that open.

Beck cannot effectively be replaced...look for years of reruns, it's all the same tripe

97 Boogberg  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:47:26pm

re: #89 albusteve

Yeah but it became an obsession. That's not healthy.

98 Tigger2005  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:47:41pm

We've reached the point of no return....teh crazy will continue to accelerate. Stock up on popcorn.

99 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:47:53pm

re: #80 TampaKnight

I seriously remember when Beck was on HLN and he was a normal, pretty calm, funny guy.

Something happened, apparently.

100 Kragar  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:48:16pm

re: #93 Killgore Trout

1790's America...
[Link: cache4.asset-cache.net...]


[Link: www.1st-art-gallery.com...]

But can't you see how happy they were, knowing their place and with having any uppity ideas?

/

101 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:48:42pm

re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist

Something happened, apparently.

He read his new job description.

102 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:48:46pm

re: #83 albusteve

Beck doesn't care about...if BO wins again, Beck will continue his gig, he needs BO

Lord, yes. Rush is also going into overdrive again. They thrive with a Democrat to attack. With a Republican in the White House, it's never as fun or effective.

103 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:48:51pm

re: #89 albusteve

yep, he wanted to secure our border...it was all downhill from there

You must have missed the part where Dobbs was a birther promoting lunatic. Including that whole fake "they shot at my house" event.

104 Digital Display  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:49:29pm

re: #91 Charles

Good lord.

I almost can't believe what I'm seeing in that one. David Barton, who gave speeches to white supremacist organizations, promoting the idea that things were just fine between whites and blacks before the Civil War.

This is Stormfront territory.

And beck saying both whites and blacks have been lied too...
effen please...What a clown

105 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:49:29pm

re: #90 SanFranciscoZionist

I have to admit to a fascination with their willingness to disembowel the Constitution.

I know some people get upset when you say the Constitution is a living document, but I didn't realize that meant they wanted to KILL it.

BO does not secure the borders, or file suit against sanctuary cities...both in direct violation of US law...big whoop eh?...everybody does it right?

106 webevintage  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:49:37pm

This is like old people in small Southern towns who say "we never had no trouble from our coloreds" or "our coloreds did not mind the way things were, we all got along until those yankees came and started trouble".

107 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:49:41pm

re: #91 Charles

Good lord.

I almost can't believe what I'm seeing in that one. David Barton, who gave speeches to white supremacist organizations, promoting the idea that things were just fine between whites and blacks before the Civil War.

This is Stormfront territory.

Yikes.

108 Only The Lurker Knows  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:49:43pm

Time to go. Please refer to my numbe 44. If f I don't leave now, well I just might.........................

Youtube Video

And I do not think Charles would like that.

Good Night Lizards.

109 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:49:49pm

re: #96 albusteve

Beck cannot effectively be replaced...look for years of reruns, it's all the same tripe

sure he can... and if I was running the operation I would be looking for a female to replace him. Any names come to mind?

110 Kragar  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:50:57pm

Costner cleanup device gets high marks from BP

It was treated as an oddball twist in the otherwise wrenching saga of the BP oil spill when Kevin Costner stepped forward to promote a device he said could work wonders in containing the spill's damage. But as Henry Fountain explains in the New York Times, the gadget in question — an oil-separating centrifuge — marks a major breakthrough in spill cleanup technology. And BP, after trial runs with the device, is ordering 32 more of the Costner-endorsed centrifuges to aid the Gulf cleanup.

The "Waterworld" actor has invested some $20 million and spent the past 15 years in developing the centrifuges. He helped found a manufacturing company, Ocean Therapy Solutions, to advance his brother's research in spill cleanup technology. In testimony before Congress this month, Costner walked through the device's operation—explaining how it spins oil-contaminated water at a rapid speed, so as to separate out the oil and capture it in a containment tank:

111 Dante41  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:51:39pm

This image sums up everything about Glenn Beck, I believe.

Your text to link...

112 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:51:49pm

re: #105 albusteve

BO does not secure the borders, or file suit against sanctuary cities...both in direct violation of US law...big whoop eh?...everybody does it right?

Really?

What do you call this?

Obama requests $600 million for border security
The president's emergency funding request would pay for more Border Patrol agents, drones, National Guard troops and more.

113 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:51:59pm

re: #97 Boogberg

Yeah but it became an obsession. That's not healthy.

he became more and more angry...he was becoming too big for CNN...I don't think it was the issues, it was his personality...the same mechanism that keeps Beck on the air

114 Ojoe  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:52:06pm

Only the strong can be gentle.

A picture of Abraham Lincoln and his son Tad.

115 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:52:32pm

re: #109 brookly red

sure he can... and if I was running the operation I would be looking for a female to replace him. Any names come to mind?

Palin of course

116 Dante41  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:53:00pm

re: #73 brookly red

OK, now just for fun, let us imagine Beck buy the farm over this... who is the heir apparent?

McChrystal, duh.

Oh wait, he's a liberal.

/

117 avanti  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:53:40pm

While we discuss Beck, our ex-Lizards are fighting off a few "RINO's on their blog that have gone so far left, that they question the wisdom of nuking Afghanistan./

118 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:53:40pm

David Barton
Master of myth and misinformation

In 1991 Barton addressed the Rocky Mountain Bible Retreat of Pastor Pete Peters' Scriptures for America, a group that espouses the racist "Christian Identity" theology. Advocates of this bizarre dogma insist that white Anglo-Saxons are the "true" chosen people of the Bible and charge that today's Jews are usurpers. Aside from being a virulent anti-Semite, Peters has advocated the death penalty for homosexuals. According to the Anti-Defamation League, other speakers at the event included white supremacist leader and 1992 presidential candidate James "Bo" Gritz, a leader of the radical and increasingly violent militia movement, and Malcolm Ross, a Holocaust denier from Canada. In November of that same year, Barton spoke at Kingdom Covenant College in Grants Pass, Oregon, another "Christian Identity" front group with ties to Peters.4

Asked to explain these actions, Barton's reply amounted to a not very creative "I didn't know they were Nazis" dodge.

119 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:53:58pm

re: #115 albusteve

Palin of course

I was thinking more like Malkin or even Colter... there may be others available after the election.

120 b_snark  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:54:09pm

re: #110 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Costner cleanup device gets high marks from BP

What happens if you put a person in it?

121 webevintage  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:54:11pm

re: #109 brookly red

sure he can... and if I was running the operation I would be looking for a female to replace him. Any names come to mind?

Gretchen Carlson?
She is the "smart lady meat in a douche sandwich" according to Jon Stewart.

122 TampaKnight  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:54:16pm

re: #117 avanti

While we discuss Beck, our ex-Lizards are fighting off a few "RINO's on their blog that have gone so far left, that they question the wisdom of nuking Afghanistan./

Huh?

123 webevintage  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:55:14pm

re: #112 Gus 802

Really?

What do you call this?

Obama requests $600 million for border security
The president's emergency funding request would pay for more Border Patrol agents, drones, National Guard troops and more.

I call that harshing the narrative...

124 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:55:33pm

re: #112 Gus 802

Really?

What do you call this?

Obama requests $600 million for border security
The president's emergency funding request would pay for more Border Patrol agents, drones, National Guard troops and more.

I call it just what it is...what do you call his suspension of the 'fence'?...it's all political, BO has no intention of security, he is using the border as a bargaining chip....he learned that one from GB...to presume BO wants a secure border is naive folly...don't tell me you believe that

125 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:55:35pm

re: #12 Charles

Beck is saying that slavery was really no big deal.

Well, sure, if you weren't a slave and entertained no moral concerns about slavery in general...on that point, Beck is spot on.

126 zora  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:55:41pm

re: #103 Gus 802

and i recall there being a story about mexicans spreading leprosy that was proven false.

127 Boogberg  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:55:47pm

re: #106 webevintage

My Mom told me that black people were exceptionally well behaved in our town back then. I'm sure I don't have to tell anyone here what the consequences were for misbehavior.

128 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:55:51pm

re: #116 Dante41

McChrystal, duh.

Oh wait, he's a liberal.

/

now that was funny...

129 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:56:18pm

re: #123 webevintage

I call that harshing the narrative...

Yeah. It does sort of rebuke the imaginary "facts".

130 Racer X  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:56:36pm

re: #120 b_sharp

What happens if you put a person in it?

Ron Paul!

131 webevintage  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:57:48pm

re: #124 albusteve

I call it just what it is...what do you call his suspension of the 'fence'?...it's all political, BO has no intention of security, he is using the border as a bargaining chip...he learned that one from GB...to presume BO wants a secure border is naive folly...don't tell me you believe that

Wait.
You actually think that the President of the United States does NOT want a secure border?
Seriously?

132 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:58:18pm

re: #126 zora

and i recall there being a story about mexicans spreading leprosy that was proven false.

whooping cough has invaded CA again...can't imagine where that comes from, can you?...it will kill X numbers of babies....again

133 Nimed  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:58:19pm

re: #117 avanti

While we discuss Beck, our ex-Lizards are fighting off a few "RINO's on their blog that have gone so far left, that they question the wisdom of nuking Afghanistan./

And that is why, pretty much no matter what Obama does, he will always have liberals by the short and curlies.

134 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:58:34pm

re: #126 zora

and i recall there being a story about mexicans spreading leprosy that was proven false.

Armadillos spread leprosy, but I don't think it matters what side of the border the armadillo is from.

135 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:58:54pm

re: #131 webevintage

Wait.
You actually think that the President of the United States does NOT want a secure border?
Seriously?

what makes you think different?....hahaha!...get real

136 Ojoe  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:58:55pm

re: #109 brookly red

sure he can... and if I was running the operation I would be looking for a female to replace him. Any names come to mind?

Miss Manners.

137 b_snark  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:58:56pm

re: #130 Racer X

Ron Paul!

And if you put Ron Paul in for a second spin?

I was hoping it could be used to separate the man from the meat-head.

138 Dante41  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:58:58pm

re: #130 Racer X

Ron Paul!

Centrifuges aren't in the Constitution!

139 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 2:59:11pm

re: #124 albusteve

I call it just what it is...what do you call his suspension of the 'fence'?...it's all political, BO has no intention of security, he is using the border as a bargaining chip...he learned that one from GB...to presume BO wants a secure border is naive folly...don't tell me you believe that

I see. Imaginary facts followed by an imaginary assessment. All you have is World Net Daily hearsay.

140 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:00:43pm

re: #127 Boogberg

My Mom told me that black people were exceptionally well behaved in our town back then. I'm sure I don't have to tell anyone here what the consequences were for misbehavior.

Lynching Statisitics. For fun, overlay a map of Red States.

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

141 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:00:43pm

"Yeah, he says he's going to do that but we all know that's not what he's really going to do!!!11ty"

//

142 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:01:12pm

re: #131 webevintage

Wait.
You actually think that the President of the United States does NOT want a secure border?
Seriously?

/well if they made crossing the border as difficult as getting through to the IRS on the phone I would agree with you.

143 b_snark  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:01:30pm

re: #138 Dante41

Centrifuges aren't in the Constitution!

But NASA uses them.

144 Dante41  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:01:46pm

re: #128 brookly red

now that was funny...

Funny, but an example of cognitive dissonance in action.

145 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:01:53pm

re: #53 SanFranciscoZionist

It would have all worked out if only the Abolitionists, and then the Federal government, and then the Civil Rights Movement, and so on, hadn't interfered.

Like the eejits who explain how women would naturally have gotten equal pay and shit like that without those man-hating feminists acting out like that.

I've run across hard core libertarians at airports (or were they Larouche supporters?) who argued (albeit politely b/c they were in public) that only land owners should vote and women were best suited for child rearing exclusively. The airport I'm thinking of is Dallas. I was stuck there for hours on a layover snafu, trying to get back to SFO.

146 ryannon  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:01:56pm

re: #120 b_sharp

What happens if you put a person in it?

Is that you, Uday?

147 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:02:14pm

re: #139 Gus 802

I see. Imaginary facts followed by an imaginary assessment. All you have is World Net Daily hearsay.


your drones and new BP are for getting a grip on illegals AFTER they have crossed over....c'mon Gus...how's a drone supposed to keep illegals OUT of the country?....if you advocate an open, unrestricted border just say so...others here have and survived

148 Dante41  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:02:28pm

re: #143 b_sharp

But NASA uses them.

NASA isn't in the Constitution either!

149 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:02:41pm

re: #147 albusteve

your drones and new BP are for getting a grip on illegals AFTER they have crossed over...c'mon Gus...how's a drone supposed to keep illegals OUT of the country?...if you advocate an open, unrestricted border just say so...others here have and survived

Only Walter that I recall.

150 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:02:48pm

re: #142 brookly red

/well if they made crossing the border as difficult as getting through to the IRS on the phone I would agree with you.

ha!...good one

151 Batman  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:02:51pm

re: #141 Gus 802

The president is guilty until proven innocent, but don't bother showing policies or statements that prove his innocence, because they don't count. It just doesn't fit my narrative, so it's a trick.

152 Summer Seale  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:02:56pm

Dear Glenn Beck,


Fuck off.

Sincerely,
Summer Seale.

153 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:03:22pm

re: #149 SanFranciscoZionist

Only Walter that I recall.

yeah?...then you got tossed

154 Racer X  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:03:24pm

Obama met with the GOP leaders a week ago and they requested additional border security funds. The next day Obama approved $600 million and 1,000 more guards.

This is on my list of ten things Obama has done right. Good Job Mr. President.

155 avanti  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:03:50pm

re: #140 Decatur Deb

Lynching Statisitics. For fun, overlay a map of Red States.

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

Not fair, many of those were being uppity./

156 Targetpractice  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:04:11pm

Evenin', fellow lizards. What's the good word?

157 Lidane  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:04:11pm

re: #131 webevintage

Wait.
You actually think that the President of the United States does NOT want a secure border?
Seriously?

The ODS is strong with this one. You're better off just letting it slide than trying to figure it out.

158 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:04:14pm

re: #153 albusteve

yeah?...then you got tossed

Perhaps, but he's the only person who's said it, despite an endless series of invitations to do so.

159 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:04:15pm

re: #136 Ojoe

Miss Manners.

well we would need the 7 second bleep delay but other wise why not?

160 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:05:13pm

re: #147 albusteve

your drones and new BP are for getting a grip on illegals AFTER they have crossed over...c'mon Gus...how's a drone supposed to keep illegals OUT of the country?...if you advocate an open, unrestricted border just say so...others here have and survived

I see you didn't bother reading it. Takes about 30 seconds.

It includes only 2 drones. The rest is for 1000 Border Patrol agents. "160 Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents and extra Border Patrol canine teams..."

So much for another false meme. Only 2 drones.

161 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:05:32pm

re: #156 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Evenin', fellow lizards. What's the good word?

Massa'.

162 Kragar  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:05:34pm

Oil centrifuges explained; plus before and after of treated water

Youtube Video
163 Ojoe  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:06:22pm

re: #159 brookly red

Miss Manners is much needed in many places these days.

164 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:06:34pm

re: #154 Racer X

Obama met with the GOP leaders a week ago and they requested additional border security funds. The next day Obama approved $600 million and 1,000 more guards.

This is on my list of ten things Obama has done right. Good Job Mr. President.

indeed and all that is sorely needed, and more

165 Lidane  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:06:58pm

re: #156 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Evenin', fellow lizards. What's the good word?

The word is that Glenn Beck is a fucktard. As usual.

166 Targetpractice  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:06:58pm

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Massa'.

Please, no need to be formal. Target will do.

167 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:07:26pm

re: #158 SanFranciscoZionist

Perhaps, but he's the only person who's said it, despite an endless series of invitations to do so.

windwhatever admitted it...unbelievable, just let everybody in

168 zora  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:07:49pm

re: #132 albusteve

i have no idea where it comes from maybe Lou Dobbs could have actually done some work and found that out, since he is a reporter. it's just easier to make shit up.

169 Targetpractice  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:07:51pm

re: #165 Lidane

The word is that Glenn Beck is a fucktard. As usual.

Imagine that. I'd be shocked if the man weren't finding new and interesting ways to cram his head further up his keister.

170 gamark  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:08:24pm

re: #156 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What's the good word?

To hell with Georgia!

171 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:08:49pm

re: #167 albusteve

windwhatever admitted it...unbelievable, just let everybody in

I must have missed that. Well, mazal tov.

172 b_snark  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:09:17pm

re: #167 albusteve

windwhatever admitted it...unbelievable, just let everybody in

OK, I'll admit it. I think the Canadian / US border should be open.

173 Ojoe  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:09:20pm

re: #169 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

"Head up and locked."

(Pilot jargon - a variation of "Gear up and locked.")

BBL

174 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:09:33pm

re: #157 Lidane

The ODS is strong with this one. You're better off just letting it slide than trying to figure it out.

you dupe...how blind can you be?...name one president ever in the last century that wanted a secure border...there has never been one...maybe 'secure' means something different for you with your RODS

175 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:09:39pm

Yep. Can't turn a thread about Glenn Beck being a douche into something about Robert Byrd and another whine-fest about Obama. Epic fail number 423.

176 Targetpractice  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:10:11pm

re: #175 Gus 802

Yep. Can't turn a thread about Glenn Beck being a douche into something about Robert Byrd and another whine-fest about Obama. Epic fail number 423.

Bwah? The frak did I miss?

177 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:11:23pm

re: #176 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Bwah? The frak did I miss?

/the empire striking back...

178 Racer X  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:11:27pm

re: #167 albusteve

windwhatever admitted it...unbelievable, just let everybody in

Opening up the border and allowing anyone and everyone to roam on into America is a bad crazy idea. Not going to explain why - it should be apparent to anyone. If not, well there's no use in trying.

179 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:11:30pm

re: #176 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Bwah? The frak did I miss?

Oh it's nothing really. See #4 and the misinformation being parroted about border security.

180 zora  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:12:38pm

re: #175 Gus 802

Yep. Can't turn a thread about Glenn Beck being a douche into something about Robert Byrd and another whine-fest about Obama. Epic fail number 423.

it's obama's fault for making glenn beck so crazy.

181 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:12:55pm

re: #178 Racer X

Opening up the border and allowing anyone and everyone to roam on into America is a bad crazy idea. Not going to explain why - it should be apparent to anyone. If not, well there's no use in trying.

It's just that, aside from Walter, and apparently Windsagio, no one here is advocating that.

It's just that any time you suggest that 'seal the border' is an objective, not something that can be done by executive order, you get accused of wanting an open border. It's a big red herring.

182 Lidane  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:13:17pm

re: #174 albusteve

When you can figure out the difference between securing our borders and sealing them, then maybe it would be worth it to discuss the issue with you.

Oh, and for the record, every president wants a secure border, but none of them will ever be able to seal it. Ever.

183 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:13:26pm

dammit, missed a chance to yell at neo-confederates.

Oh well.

Its far beyond the 'I actually feel bad for them at this point' stage >>

184 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:13:47pm

Any short-term fix requires that the control of the border be improved. (No fence can do that.) The real fix means fixing Mexico--much harder.

185 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:14:09pm

re: #180 zora

it's obama's fault for making glenn beck so crazy.

Obama's a sekrit Mooslim and teh Mexicans have a percentage of Moorish blood and they were teh Mooslims too! Dats why Obama wants teh open border!!11ty

186 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:14:27pm

re: #181 SanFranciscoZionist

For the record I suggested that the border is unsealable, and jokingly that we should merge with Mexico and Canada to form a supernation. Hell, James Polk wanted to do it!

187 Racer X  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:14:52pm

re: #181 SanFranciscoZionist

It's just that, aside from Walter, and apparently Windsagio, no one here is advocating that.

It's just that any time you suggest that 'seal the border' is an objective, not something that can be done by executive order, you get accused of wanting an open border. It's a big red herring.

Yep.

There is no way to "seal the border". Not going to happen. But that should not mean if you make it across you are safe at home plate.

188 Lidane  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:14:54pm

re: #169 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Imagine that. I'd be shocked if the man weren't finding new and interesting ways to cram his head further up his keister.

At this point, I think he's on his third or fourth lap through his body. His head's come out of his neck and gone back up his ass at least twice since Obama's taken office.

189 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:15:19pm

re: #179 Gus 802

Oh it's nothing really. See #4 and the misinformation being parroted about border security.

sorry you did not like #4 but as much as I think Beck is a racist a-hole I am not going to sit through a "all republicans & only republicans are" fest... sorry just had to nip that bud.

190 Racer X  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:15:39pm

re: #184 Decatur Deb

Any short-term fix requires that the control of the border be improved. (No fence can do that.) The real fix means fixing Mexico--much harder.

Whirlpool is helping - they are moving a manufacturing plant there.

191 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:15:43pm

re: #187 Racer X

I really feel like we need to rebuild the whole thing from scratch, the system is soooo messed up right now.

192 avanti  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:16:02pm

Kyl, now says his comments about Obama were a bit out of context.


Kyl, of course, had a small spat with the White House last week over comments he made at a town-hall meeting. Kyl, responding to a voter’s question, detailed a recent one-on-one conversation he had with the president. “They are holding [border security] hostage” over hopes for comprehensive immigration reform, Kyl said at the forum.

Kyl tells us that the comments were “taken a bit out of context,” and that the “they” he was referring to was the Left, “the president’s base,” and not the administration. “I did not try to start a fight. This meeting happened a month ago and we were talking in the context of his political problems. He was talking about how they think that if we secure the border, you guys [Republicans] won’t have the incentive to work on comprehensive immigration reform.”


Kyl.

193 researchok  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:16:09pm

re: #161 Decatur Deb

FYI, I'm still laughing at the wimple/lightning/thunder crack.

194 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:16:35pm

re: #190 Racer X

Whirlpool is helping - they are moving a manufacturing plant there.

If we anschluss, those become American jobs.

195 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:17:21pm

re: #187 Racer X

Yep.

There is no way to "seal the border". Not going to happen. But that should not mean if you make it across you are safe at home plate.

I agree on both counts. I'm just tired of being accused of shit I (and others) didn't say.

196 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:17:32pm

re: #189 brookly red

sorry you did not like #4 but as much as I think Beck is a racist a-hole I am not going to sit through a "all republicans & only republicans are" fest... sorry just had to nip that bud.

How's that? A) No one mentioned Republicans in 1, 2, and 3. B) You actually injected political parties with your comment. If anything your mentioning of Robert Byrd was a bit counter-productive.

197 RadicalModerate  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:17:38pm

re: #91 Charles

Good lord.

I almost can't believe what I'm seeing in that one. David Barton, who gave speeches to white supremacist organizations, promoting the idea that things were just fine between whites and blacks before the Civil War.

This is Stormfront territory.

David Barton? Figures.

He was also one of the people in the forefront spearheading the Texas Board of Education's revisionism of science, social studies and history books.

How a group of Texas conservatives is rewriting your kids’ textbooks.

In keeping with the makeup of the board, three of the six people appointed were right-wing ideologues, among them Peter Marshall, a Massachusetts-based preacher who has argued that California wildfires and Hurricane Katrina were God’s punishment for tolerating gays, and David Barton, former vice chairman of the Texas Republican Party. Both men are self-styled historians with no relevant academic training—Barton’s only credential is a bachelor’s degree in religious education from Oral Roberts University—who argue that the wall of separation between church and state is a myth.

198 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:18:00pm

re: #195 SanFranciscoZionist

Just part of the MO >>

199 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:18:00pm

re: #189 brookly red

sorry you did not like #4 but as much as I think Beck is a racist a-hole I am not going to sit through a "all republicans & only republicans are" fest... sorry just had to nip that bud.

More crap no one said. And if you have to go back to Robert Byrd to find a racist Democrat, you're not paying enough attention.

200 Racer X  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:18:47pm

re: #191 windsagio

I really feel like we need to rebuild the whole thing from scratch, the system is sooo messed up right now.

I've posted my solution to the border issue before. It involves amnesty (shocka!), securing the border, probation and eventual citizenship for those who are here now. No one gets deported unless they are really bad.

201 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:18:54pm

re: #160 Gus 802

I see you didn't bother reading it. Takes about 30 seconds.

It includes only 2 drones. The rest is for 1000 Border Patrol agents. "160 Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents and extra Border Patrol canine teams..."

So much for another false meme. Only 2 drones.

I read it days ago, and it's not a bad idea, but it does not fix the problem

202 Racer X  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:19:49pm

re: #195 SanFranciscoZionist

I agree on both counts. I'm just tired of being accused of shit I (and others) didn't say.

I agree with most of what you say!

I like your shoes too.

203 albusteve  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:19:50pm

time out....fone

204 Digital Display  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:19:57pm

I have a question Lizards..
After dropping in for the Beck Clown show today I realized something..
I have 1000 Channels on the big Screen.. I have never seen a gold commercial on any channel but Fox...999 channels that don't hawk Gold every 20 minutes..Has anyone seen Gold ads on other Channels? Were you watching Law & Order on USA and suddenly...' You hear that? That's the sound of Gold!'

205 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:20:03pm

re: #201 albusteve

I read it days ago, and it's not a bad idea, but it does not fix the problem

I hope no one is expecting perfection. That will never happen. 50 percent of illegals come into the USA legally.

206 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:20:10pm

re: #191 windsagio

I really feel like we need to rebuild the whole thing from scratch, the system is sooo messed up right now.

well I have and idea... seal the border, & allow anyone on this side to declare that they are in the country illegally & then sort it out on a case by case basis... I think that is fair, no?

207 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:20:15pm

re: #202 Racer X

I agree with most of what you say!

I like your shoes too.

Thank you!

208 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:20:33pm

re: #199 SanFranciscoZionist

Its almost a missed opportunity.

As much as it hurts, it could be a chance to fix the GOP and make it a party that actually has a future. Instead we get digging in and The left! (or the Democrats!) are just as bad!!!

Even if every accusation of that were true, it still wouldn't change the fact that theres some crazy-ass, dangerous shit coming out of the Rightwing right now, and its making huge inroads in the GOP.

209 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:20:50pm

re: #206 brookly red

well I have and idea... seal the border, & allow anyone on this side to declare that they are in the country illegally & then sort it out on a case by case basis... I think that is fair, no?

"Seal the border". You wanna 'make peace in the Middle East' while you're at it?

210 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:21:06pm

re: #200 Racer X

re: #206 brookly red

There's a start in there somewhere.

211 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:21:16pm

re: #209 SanFranciscoZionist

"Seal the border". You wanna 'make peace in the Middle East' while you're at it?

And find a cure for cancer.

212 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:21:43pm

re: #196 Gus 802

How's that? A) No one mentioned Republicans in 1, 2, and 3. B) You actually injected political parties with your comment. If anything your mentioning of Robert Byrd was a bit counter-productive.

no it was productive... no body has attempted to smear the whole party yet so I would say it was spot on :)

213 Racer X  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:21:53pm

re: #205 Gus 802

I hope no one is expecting perfection. That will never happen. 50 percent of illegals come into the USA legally.

You are confusing "immigrants" with "illegals".

Many people do that.

214 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:22:27pm

re: #200 Racer X

See I like that, altho' I'm glad I'm not the one who has to figure out how to secure that border :p

We should also make it easier for people to get in legally tho', we'll never stop the farmworkers from coming in, need to work it into the system.

re: #206 brookly red

We cannot effectively seal the border, that's the problem.

215 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:22:30pm

re: #209 SanFranciscoZionist

"Seal the border". You wanna 'make peace in the Middle East' while you're at it?

no that is not our job...

216 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:22:34pm

re: #213 Racer X

You are confusing "immigrants" with "illegals".

Many people do that.

No, he means that they cross legitimately and stay on illegally, IIUC.

217 Nimed  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:22:44pm

re: #189 brookly red

sorry you did not like #4 but as much as I think Beck is a racist a-hole I am not going to sit through a "all republicans & only republicans are" fest... sorry just had to nip that bud.

By the way, Robert Byrd changed his views enough to vote for the Civil Rights Act of 1968.

218 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:23:16pm

re: #213 Racer X

You are confusing "immigrants" with "illegals".

Many people do that.

Well. More to the point. They come in here with Visas and Work-Visas which eventually expire and they remain here as "currently undocumented."

219 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:23:16pm

re: #213 Racer X

I think he means people who overstay visit or school visas.

I've known a ton of those >>

220 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:23:30pm

re: #204 HoosierHoops

I have a question Lizards..
After dropping in for the Beck Clown show today I realized something..
I have 1000 Channels on the big Screen.. I have never seen a gold commercial on any channel but Fox...999 channels that don't hawk Gold every 20 minutes..Has anyone seen Gold ads on other Channels? Were you watching Law & Order on USA and suddenly...' You hear that? That's the sound of Gold!'

I see them on the History Channel once in a while, especially when they're running Apocalyptic and Nostradamus stuff.

221 Racer X  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:23:41pm

re: #216 SanFranciscoZionist

No, he means that they cross legitimately and stay on illegally, IIUC.

Duh-oh!

Slaps forehead.

222 Racer X  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:24:00pm

re: #218 Gus 802

Well. More to the point. They come in here with Visas and Work-Visas which eventually expire and they remain here as "currently undocumented."

Got it. I slow.

223 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:24:11pm

re: #215 brookly red

no that is not our job...

I'm sure that's the only reason we don't do it.

224 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:24:20pm

re: #221 Racer X

lol, pigpile on Racer X >>

sorry :P

225 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:24:32pm

re: #222 Racer X

Got it. I slow.

OK! ;)

226 Racer X  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:25:13pm

re: #224 windsagio

lol, pigpile on Racer X >>

sorry :P

Swine!

227 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:26:40pm

re: #223 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, we keep halfheartedly trying for some reason >>

228 Digital Display  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:26:57pm

re: #220 Shiplord Kirel

I see them on the History Channel once in a while, especially when they're running Apocalyptic and Nostradamus stuff.

I used to love the history channel years ago...Once they went all UFO on me I left them..I like Discovery Channel now...
I'm moving down south your way this summer shiplord..

229 Boogberg  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:27:07pm

re: #186 windsagio

For the record I suggested that the border is unsealable, and jokingly that we should merge with Mexico and Canada to form a supernation. Hell, James Polk wanted to do it!

I bet Chavez would shut his fucking pie hole then! :D

That's one seriously huge army. lol

230 Nimed  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:27:08pm

re: #209 SanFranciscoZionist

"Seal the border". You wanna 'make peace in the Middle East' while you're at it?

re: #211 Gus 802

And find a cure for cancer.

And have a decent three-part movie adaptation of Dune.

231 zora  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:27:12pm

re: #204 HoosierHoops

I have a question Lizards..
After dropping in for the Beck Clown show today I realized something..
I have 1000 Channels on the big Screen.. I have never seen a gold commercial on any channel but Fox...999 channels that don't hawk Gold every 20 minutes..Has anyone seen Gold ads on other Channels? Were you watching Law & Order on USA and suddenly...' You hear that? That's the sound of Gold!'

i know if see a lot of "put your gold in the mail" commercials on those channels.

232 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:27:48pm

re: #230 Nimed

And have a decent three-part movie adaptation of Dune.

Once the border is sealed your jet pack will arrive in the mail.

/

233 webevintage  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:27:53pm

BTW, I noticed at the Doctor's office today (the teen has bronchitis) that they had HGTV on instead of FOXNews and the same at the dealership last week.
These are both places that used to run FOX all day on the Tv'.

234 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:28:00pm

re: #227 windsagio

Well, we keep halfheartedly trying for some reason >>

I've mentioned before that I think it's a practical joke that each outgoing president plays on the next sucker.

235 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:28:05pm

re: #228 HoosierHoops

I used to love the history channel years ago...Once they went all UFO on me I left them..I like Discovery Channel now...
I'm moving down south your way this summer shiplord..

Cool, I need the reinforcements.

236 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:28:06pm

re: #230 Nimed

Dune's one of those things which I have no idea why they keep trying.

Doesn't really lend itself that well to film, imo.

237 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:28:09pm

re: #223 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sure that's the only reason we don't do it.

well I am rather pleased that Iran has chosen not to attempt to run the Gaza blockade, & I do give credit to this administration for placing navel assets in a position that my have influenced that decision. that being said the 2 don't have much to do with each other except that physical opposition does bring results so we should try some of that here too, no?

238 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:28:49pm

re: #234 SanFranciscoZionist

Hazin' the newbie!

or if we're being cynical, its making sure the next guy doesn't eclipse your record by too much :D

239 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:28:52pm

re: #230 Nimed

And have a decent three-part movie adaptation of Dune.

I don't really care about that one, but sure, go for it.

240 Nimed  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:28:58pm

re: #232 Gus 802

Once the border is sealed your jet pack will arrive in the mail.

/

Can I get a stillsuit with that?

241 Racer X  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:29:11pm

Racer X's solution to illegal immigrant problem:

To those still waiting in line - thank you for your patience. We will get to you.

To those who are here illegally and want to stay - welcome to America! If you would like to stay and become a citizen there are a few conditions:

1. You broke our law. There is a penalty. A fine no greater than say, $5,000 to be paid off over the next 10 years should cover expenses.

2. Something led you to flee the conditions in your home country. You are welcome to apply to become an American citizen. Pledge allegiance to America and we will assist you if needed. This is your home now. We are all your fellow citizens. Welcome!

3. You are on probation for the next 5 years. Engage in criminal activity and all previous agreements are null and void. You will be deported to your previous country of origin.

This applies to anyone of any color, race, ethnicity, age, gender, sexual orientation or political views. No one is singled out. I think this is a fair start.

242 Neutral President  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:29:33pm

re: #228 HoosierHoops

I used to love the history channel years ago...Once they went all UFO on me I left them..I like Discovery Channel now...
I'm moving down south your way this summer shiplord..

If you get the History International channel, last time I checked they still have actual "history" on it and not "hysteria".

243 b_snark  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:29:56pm

re: #236 windsagio

Dune's one of those things which I have no idea why they keep trying.

Doesn't really lend itself that well to film, imo.

It would if they'd stop trying to 'interpret' it.

244 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:29:59pm

re: #240 Nimed

Can I get a stillsuit with that?

Is that like the modern day version of the chrome space jump suit?

/

245 tradewind  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:30:45pm

re: #199 SanFranciscoZionist
True dat. Just search Harry Reid on Obama, or even more astonishingly, Joe the Veep, for their off-the-cuff remarks in the area of race, which, said by a Republican, would have resulted in the offender's removal from Congress. Fortunately, since they were democrats, ergo inherently incapable of racism, there was no mens rea assumed, only poor phrasing.

246 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:30:59pm

You know, of course, that the "mega-church" mentioned by Beck was in the South New England, and that abolition of slavery was really big in the South New England long before the civil war, and that the South was about to free the slaves before they were gratuitously attacked by New England.

This is the unwritten history that Beck is trying to explain. Why the uproar?

247 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:31:11pm

re: #237 brookly red

well I am rather pleased that Iran has chosen not to attempt to run the Gaza blockade, & I do give credit to this administration for placing navel assets in a position that my have influenced that decision. that being said the 2 don't have much to do with each other except that physical opposition does bring results so we should try some of that here too, no?

Sure. How much of the U.S. armed forces are you willing to commit to this operation, and how far in from the border should the declaration of martial law extend?

248 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:31:30pm

re: #240 Nimed

Can I get a stillsuit with that?

The Flying Fremen.

249 Nimed  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:31:40pm

re: #244 Gus 802

Is that like the modern day version of the chrome space jump suit?

/

You probably don't really want to know to know but here:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

250 Racer X  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:32:04pm

re: #233 webevintage

BTW, I noticed at the Doctor's office today (the teen has bronchitis) that they had HGTV on instead of FOXNews and the same at the dealership last week.
These are both places that used to run FOX all day on the Tv'.

I've noticed that too.

On a side note - I was at Lowe's hardware the other day and there were several people screaming at each other in the parking lot. One guy was barking about Obama and Tea Parties, and a lady was screaming back about 'quit watching Foxnews'. I just cracked up and walked away.

251 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:32:06pm

re: #30 prairiefire

Can gays and lesbians join your militia?

252 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:32:06pm

re: #245 tradewind

True dat. Just search Harry Reid on Obama, or even more astonishingly, Joe the Veep, for their off-the-cuff remarks in the area of race, which, said by a Republican, would have resulted in the offender's removal from Congress. Fortunately, since they were democrats, ergo inherently incapable of racism, there was no mens rea assumed, only poor phrasing.

Blah, blah, self pity, blah.

253 tradewind  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:32:16pm

re: #213 Racer X
Or maybe Gus means they ' accidentally ' overstay their welcome, i.e. visa. That may have been a factor before 9-11, but now, not so much.

254 HappyBenghazi  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:32:24pm

Seriously I am so sick of people who romanticize the old South like Beck and bash Lincoln. Was Lincoln perfect, no but at least he wasn't a crazy bigot like many in the old Confederacy were. People like Beck conveinently ignore the fact that the Confederates often killed or returned black soldiers captured in battle. And of course there was also a strong strain of anti-Catholicism, anti-Semitism, and other prejudices back then. But to people like Beck I am sure that doesn't matter since he has shown himself to admire some pretty unsavorly figures.

255 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:32:25pm

re: #245 tradewind

You never let us down!!!

256 Digital Display  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:32:58pm

re: #235 Shiplord Kirel

Cool, I need the reinforcements.

I have never been south in my life..
I will be scamming tiks for the Cowboys and the Thunder!

257 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:33:02pm

re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist

Sure. How much of the U.S. armed forces are you willing to commit to this operation, and how far in from the border should the declaration of martial law extend?

The Canal is easier to defend, and the PXs are already in place.

258 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:33:18pm

re: #253 tradewind

Or maybe Gus means they ' accidentally ' overstay their welcome, i.e. visa. That may have been a factor before 9-11, but now, not so much.

No, it's still a factor. Why do you imagine that 9/11 changed that?

259 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:33:32pm

re: #253 tradewind

Hate to tell you this, but like I said above, I've known a few people in the 2000s that have done just that, one came on a 'vacation' and stayed for 5 years.

260 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:34:07pm

re: #236 windsagio

Dune's one of those things which I have no idea why they keep trying.

Doesn't really lend itself that well to film, imo.

The original 1984 De Laurentis production had terrific visuals but the script was one of the worst disasters in the history of cinema. It made no sense at all to anyone.

261 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:34:32pm

re: #257 Decatur Deb

I like the cut of your jib, sir!

262 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:34:50pm

re: #256 HoosierHoops

I have never been south in my life..
I will be scamming tiks for the Cowboys and the Thunder!

I get to see northern Louisiana next week.

There must be something interesting in the area to go and see, but my husband just looks at me funny when I ask about tourist attractions.

263 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:35:01pm

re: #245 tradewind

True dat. Just search Harry Reid on Obama, or even more astonishingly, Joe the Veep, for their off-the-cuff remarks in the area of race, which, said by a Republican, would have resulted in the offender's removal from Congress. Fortunately, since they were democrats, ergo inherently incapable of racism, there was no mens rea assumed, only poor phrasing.

I'll stipulate that your examples show residual racism. There's a great leap to the stuff that's coming from the nutcases.

264 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:35:06pm

re: #260 Shiplord Kirel

When you get right down to it, the novel is pretty nonsensical, or maybe just freakin' insane. Trying to make sense of it is hard, at the very least >

265 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:35:09pm

re: #257 Decatur Deb

The Canal is easier to defend, and the PXs are already in place.

True, but that's not exactly where the border is...

266 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:35:17pm

re: #99 SanFranciscoZionist

I remember that too. He was slightly funny, making sophomoric points, but not THAT crazy, especially compared to HLN's "Nancy Grace" (who I'm convinced is a performance artist/actress playing a role. Nobody can actually be like that.)

267 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:35:32pm

re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist

Sure. How much of the U.S. armed forces are you willing to commit to this operation, and how far in from the border should the declaration of martial law extend?

you really do want to paint me as extremist don't you? who said martial law? and why do you double down on every bet? I mentioned nothing of the military nor martial law... so go fish :)

268 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:35:57pm

re: #265 SanFranciscoZionist

True, but that's not exactly where the border is...

Yet.

269 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:35:58pm

re: #265 SanFranciscoZionist

That's his point! (I think)

NORTH AMERICAN MEGANATION!

We'll even let you design the flag, if you want :D

270 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:36:10pm

re: #264 windsagio

When you get right down to it, the novel is pretty nonsensical, or maybe just freakin' insane. Trying to make sense of it is hard, at the very least >

Have you lost an eye since we last talked?

271 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:36:19pm

re: #267 brookly red

"Paint?"

*cough*

272 wrenchwench  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:36:24pm

re: #253 tradewind

Or maybe Gus means they ' accidentally ' overstay their welcome, i.e. visa. That may have been a factor before 9-11, but now, not so much.

Yeah, not so much, only about 40% of all illegals.

273 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:37:13pm

re: #270 Cato the Elder

I sometimes did one from the start, Just so many of those things have been thrown out that people tend to glaze them over. ;)

274 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:37:35pm

re: #267 brookly red

you really do want to paint me as extremist don't you? who said martial law? and why do you double down on every bet? I mentioned nothing of the military nor martial law... so go fish :)

No, I don't want to paint you as an extremist, I just think you're not really thinking this through. We've got the Border Patrol and the National Guard out there, so why mention 'physical opposition' as though it was a new idea?

275 Digital Display  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:38:39pm

re: #262 SanFranciscoZionist

I get to see northern Louisiana next week.

There must be something interesting in the area to go and see, but my husband just looks at me funny when I ask about tourist attractions.

Sounds like fun...You should call reine while you are there..

276 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:38:41pm

re: #269 windsagio

That's his point! (I think)

NORTH AMERICAN MEGANATION!

We'll even let you design the flag, if you want :D

I had a kid in my class a few years ago who was really into this whole notion that Bush was going to stay on illegally as President, and incorporate us into the NAU.

His feelings were kind of hurt that I didn't take him seriously.

277 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:38:54pm

re: #272 wrenchwench

Yeah, not so much, only about 40% of all illegals.

That works. The PEW Hispanic Center says 40 to 50 percent.

[Link: www.azcentral.com...]

NPR report here says 45 percent.

[Link: www.npr.org...]

278 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:39:07pm

re: #274 SanFranciscoZionist

No, I don't want to paint you as an extremist, I just think you're not really thinking this through. We've got the Border Patrol and the National Guard out there, so why mention 'physical opposition' as though it was a new idea?

well we also have oil skimmers out there but some how that stuff keeps washing up... perhaps we just need more?

279 wrenchwench  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:39:40pm

re: #277 Gus 802

You are so handy with those facts!!!

{Gus}

280 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:39:45pm

re: #276 SanFranciscoZionist

Haha I'd love to see the parent-teacher conference for that one.

My backup plan, if the NAU doesn't work, is to secede and form the state of Cascadia. Bad part is that SF would probably end up the capital >>

281 Gus  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:40:10pm

re: #279 wrenchwench

You are so handy with those facts!!!

{Gus}

{wrenchwench}!

282 tradewind  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:40:18pm

re: #237 brookly red
I really don't think they were ever going to do it.
They claim fear of Israeli ' threats ' ?
Not buyin' it. Israel's not known for writing checks its army can't cash.

283 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:40:20pm

re: #278 brookly red

to address it seriously for a minute, we don't have nearly the money or manpower to even begin to do that.

284 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:40:41pm

re: #276 SanFranciscoZionist

I had a kid in my class a few years ago who was really into this whole notion that Bush was going to stay on illegally as President, and incorporate us into the NAU.

His feelings were kind of hurt that I didn't take him seriously.

Monroe Doctrine, meet Manifest Destiny.

285 zora  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:40:59pm

beck is having a march on washington on the anniversary of king's march on washington and it will be remembered as the day beck freed the white man and led him to the promise land. he is who you were waiting for. he is sure history will thank you if you don't.

//

286 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:41:12pm

re: #278 brookly red

well we also have oil skimmers out there but some how that stuff keeps washing up... perhaps we just need more?

Possibly, but there eventually comes a point of diminishing returns. In both cases.

We are never going to 'seal the border'. It's not even a particularly important objective. What we need to have is a high level of border security, and a strong, rational immigration policy.

287 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:41:45pm

re: #280 windsagio

Haha I'd love to see the parent-teacher conference for that one.

My backup plan, if the NAU doesn't work, is to secede and form the state of Cascadia. Bad part is that SF would probably end up the capital >>

Hah, I bet you guys won't even let us in, you'll just stick us with LA in the part with no water.

288 brookly red  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:42:34pm

re: #283 windsagio

to address it seriously for a minute, we don't have nearly the money or manpower to even begin to do that.

gawd now what if I said that about a social program?

289 abolitionist  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:42:45pm

Beck's guest, David Barton is founder and president of wallbuilders.com
Barton has been described as one of the more popular speakers at GOP events in recent years.

I saw Barton in the fall of 2001 sharing the stage with Ken Ham (founder of the Creationist Museum in Kentucky) and a handful of other "intellegent design" speakers at an Answers in Genesis event that a friend invited me to.

290 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:43:58pm

re: #287 SanFranciscoZionist

:D

Its planning over emotion :D

San Francisco/San Jose is too much of an economic machine to leave out. Anyways, we're more like you than we're like anybody else (or vice-versa if you want :p) I welcome our hippie bretherin with open arms!

Just nothing south of there. $&(#@$ LA.

291 RadicalModerate  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:44:21pm

re: #262 SanFranciscoZionist

I get to see northern Louisiana next week.

There must be something interesting in the area to go and see, but my husband just looks at me funny when I ask about tourist attractions.

Originally from the northern LA area here.

Outside of the gambling casinos in Shreveport, there isn't a heck of a lot of "tourist" type attractions in northern Louisiana. If you're in the eastern part of the state, then Vicksburg, MS is a good spot to visit, as it was the site of a major Civil War battle, and they have a national monument set up there.

292 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:44:26pm

re: #288 brookly red

Bring up a specific one and we'll talk :)

293 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:45:04pm

re: #285 zora

beck is having a march on washington on the anniversary of king's march on washington and it will be remembered as the day beck freed the white man and led him to the promise land. he is who you were waiting for. he is sure history will thank you if you don't.

//

I avoid Chicken Little mode, but that could go really bad after a summer of media antagonism and some sharp deprivation around the country. If about a tenth of DC's black population decided to just join-in the rally, nothing could stop them.

294 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:45:28pm

שבת שלום

!זה הזמן לכבות את המחשב

295 b_snark  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:45:46pm

re: #264 windsagio

When you get right down to it, the novel is pretty nonsensical, or maybe just freakin' insane. Trying to make sense of it is hard, at the very least >

Heretic!

296 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:46:05pm

re: #264 windsagio

When you get right down to it, the novel is pretty nonsensical, or maybe just freakin' insane. Trying to make sense of it is hard, at the very least >

I'm not much of a Dunie. I recommend National Lampoon's parody, Doon the Dessert Planet for those who waded through the original and weren't impressed. The glossary is especially hilarious, since it perfectly mimics the contrived terminology and jargon of the original. In the original, for example, "chaumurky" is poison administered in drink, while "chaumas" is poison administered in food. In the parody, "chaubakky" is poison administered in chewing tobacco, while "chauvez" is poison administered in fruit.
It is a good companion piece to Harvard Lampoon's Bored of the Rings. This follows the dubious adventures of such readily recognizable characters as Frito and Dildo Bugger and GoodGulf Greyteeth the Good Wizard.

297 tradewind  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:46:10pm

re: #255 windsagio
Not a stretch, since that would require that you be able to descend further.
/joking. Sort of./

298 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:47:01pm

re: #295 b_sharp

Hey I like it! Its just drug-addled mayhem!

299 Nimed  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:47:16pm

re: #260 Shiplord Kirel

The original 1984 De Laurentis production had terrific visuals but the script was one of the worst disasters in the history of cinema. It made no sense at all to anyone.

re: #264 windsagio

When you get right down to it, the novel is pretty nonsensical, or maybe just freakin' insane. Trying to make sense of it is hard, at the very least >

I'm gonna go with the "you just didn't get it" defense.

300 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:47:23pm

Beck is Partially Right - "WE" were moving on the "Right Track" until the invention of the Cotton 'Gin, the "Cotton Economy" etc.
What Beck leaves out is that Military Necessity - for both His Majesty, George III's Troops and that of the Continentals required the enlistment of African Origin Soldiers. Both sides treated those soldiers with honor after the war for the most part, so long as they were active soldiers.
When "PUSH came to SHOVE" in the American "Unpleasantness" of 1861-65, even the CSA recruited Blacks to "The Cause." - some of whom fought heroically at Richmond for a regime that wanted them enslaved forever.
No matter what, the "Buffalo Soldier" fought honorably and well for all that would give them the chance and a hope for a better future. That - IS the History - AND - It is TRUE. -S-

301 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:47:46pm

re: #294 reuven

Oops, somebody discovered babelfish! Or maybe google translate.

302 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:48:32pm

re: #299 Nimed

Hey the guy knew how to throw in a plot element (or 50)!

303 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:49:07pm

re: #301 windsagio

Well, most Israelis say "PEECEE" (I don't know how they spell it!) instead of "machshev", but I can assure you, I can speak and read Hebrew without google translate.

Good night, all!

304 darthstar  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:49:35pm

re: #301 windsagio

Oops, somebody discovered babelfish! Or maybe google translate.

Shh...you're just supposed to be impressed.
(jy net veronderstel om te wees onder die indruk)

305 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:49:48pm

re: #303 reuven

Just a pet peeve :p No reason at all to put it into Hebrew there :p

306 Nimed  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:50:05pm

re: #301 windsagio

Oops, somebody discovered babelfish! Or maybe google translate.

Shabbat Shalom
It's time to turn off your computer!

307 b_snark  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:50:35pm

re: #288 brookly red

gawd now what if I said that about a social program?

Which has the greater affect in social stability, and which has the greatest return per invested dollar?

308 tradewind  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:50:40pm

re: #288 brookly red
They're taking a stab at it in CA....
[Link: www.mydesert.com...]
This would seem to have been something that never should have happened in the first place, but better late....

309 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:50:43pm

re: #305 windsagio

I was wishing the Jews (and maybe a few 7th day Adventists?) a good shabbos! No need to confuse the goyim who don't celebrate it until Sunday!

310 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:51:05pm

re: #304 darthstar

See thats how you do it, make them have to guess what language you went into >>

(Dutch?)

PS: Nimed, yes I know ;)

311 Nimed  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:51:11pm

re: #303 reuven

Well, most Israelis say "PEECEE" (I don't know how they spell it!) instead of "machshev", but I can assure you, I can speak and read Hebrew without google translate.

Good night, all!

Ok, we can safely trash reuven until the sun sets tomorrow.

312 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:51:56pm

re: #309 reuven

Jehovah's witnesses too.

313 windsagio  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:53:17pm

Ok anyways, its been real.

Gonna get some eats :D

For the Motherland!

314 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:53:17pm

re: #218 Gus 802

Well. More to the point. They come in here with Visas and Work-Visas which eventually expire and they remain here as "currently undocumented."

A Polish cousin of mine did that over 10 years ago.

315 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:55:39pm

re: #312 windsagio

I think you're mistaken about them. If I recall, they believe that each day is equally important. ([Link: wiki.answers.com...] )

316 zora  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:55:48pm

re: #293 Decatur Deb

i went to my hometown church on father's day and after church the old women were talking about how shocked they are about the current racial climate in this country. some of them graduated from segregated high schools and their children were the first integrated generation. the ugliness from those time is happening again right before their eyes and they are sickened by it. they always pray for the safety of obama and his family. they believe it is by the grace of god that he has survived this long amidst the kind of hate directed at him.

317 darthstar  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:57:50pm

re: #310 windsagio

See thats how you do it, make them have to guess what language you went into >>

(Dutch?)

PS: Nimed, yes I know ;)

Afrikaans, in honor of the world cup.

318 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:59:35pm

re: #303 reuven

reuven -

I can "read" as in phonetically, in Latin, Cyrillic, and Hebrew "Aleph Bet's." That and $1-2 gets one a ticket on a Bus. "Aleph-Bet's" are like "Operating Systems" - "Windows/Latin" is the biggest - "Leopard/Cyrillic" is smaller yet still influential - Hebrew is like a Linux "Distro" quite good, AND only used by a small group of people. And THAT'S HOW IT IS.

-S-

319 tradewind  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 3:59:43pm

re: #316 zora
Secret Service reports indicate that the level of threats against Obama is now more or less the same as the numbers for previous presidents. There was an initial spike after the election, but now the threat level appears the same.

320 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:00:53pm

re: #318 Dr. Shalit

Yeah, but some day you'll meet your maker, and you'll want to speak in his native language!

////

G'nite! For real this time

321 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:02:44pm

re: #21 Dante41

I know this has been leveled at people undeserving of it over the years, but i have to ask it now:

Why does Glenn Beck hate America?

I mean, why does he hate the concept of freedom and justice for all? Why does he try to undo nearly a century and a half of progress? Why does he want to tear asunder this union and cast brother against brother once again?

Why does he pine for this nation's darkest hour?

Because then he will be a Hero™. A person to be honored like Jefferson and Washington. A man who changed America for the better and set it on the road to Heaven on Earth.

*gag*

322 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:05:22pm

re: #300 Dr. Shalit

When "PUSH came to SHOVE" in the American "Unpleasantness" of 1861-65, even the CSA recruited Blacks to "The Cause." - some of whom fought heroically at Richmond for a regime that wanted them enslaved forever.

No, this is NOT true. No black soldiers ever fought for the Confederacy. Please don't post this kind of garbage here. This is a talking point from racists.

323 Randall Gross  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:06:49pm

re: #300 Dr. Shalit

screw that bullshit. it's also revisionism

324 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:07:43pm

re: #316 zora

i went to my hometown church on father's day and after church the old women were talking about how shocked they are about the current racial climate in this country. some of them graduated from segregated high schools and their children were the first integrated generation. the ugliness from those time is happening again right before their eyes and they are sickened by it. they always pray for the safety of obama and his family. they believe it is by the grace of god that he has survived this long amidst the kind of hate directed at him.

I don't think it can get that bad again--there was a lot of widespread shallow racism, and less of the deep, murderous, kind. We can't even tell what the ratio is today, let alone 60 yrs ago. Here in AL, the kids just seem to be a lot less infected.

325 HappyBenghazi  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:10:34pm

The thing that astounds me about what Beck says here is that nativism and parties like the Know Nothing were at their all time high in the lead up to the Civil War. I don't know why people like to revise history and act like Lincoln destroyed liberty in this country. I don't like everything Lincoln did but he was far better than those who had no problem with slavery continuing to exist.

326 Randall Gross  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:10:49pm

re: #322 Charles

Minor correction: operative word here is "willingly" - there were some blacks who were press ganged into fortifying some places entirely against their will by brute squads. The revisionist papers always mentions this single unit and neglect to mention the press ganging part.

327 darthstar  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:17:20pm

re: #326 Thanos

Minor correction: operative word here is "willingly" - there were some blacks who were press ganged into fortifying some places entirely against their will by brute squads. The revisionist papers always mentions this single unit and neglect to mention the press ganging part.

It was only because they hated their freedom. ///

328 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:18:01pm

re: #326 Thanos

Minor correction: operative word here is "willingly" - there were some blacks who were press ganged into fortifying some places entirely against their will by brute squads. The revisionist papers always mentions this single unit and neglect to mention the press ganging part.

There seems to have been a volunteer group formed early tin the war, among New Orleans freemen. Their offer to serve was refused. Most on-line sources are suspect--this seems straight:

[Link: www.google.com...]

329 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:18:34pm

re: #326 Thanos

Minor correction: operative word here is "willingly" - there were some blacks who were press ganged into fortifying some places entirely against their will by brute squads. The revisionist papers always mentions this single unit and neglect to mention the press ganging part.

The operative word is "fought." Yes, there were some slaves who were forced to work for the Confederate Army, but they never actually fought anybody.

The reason why racists like to insist that blacks "fought" for the Confederacy is to give people the false impression that blacks enjoyed being slaves and wanted it to continue, so much they would fight for it. It's a lie.

330 zora  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:27:37pm

re: #324 Decatur Deb

that is true. however, the children are always less infected. that kind of hatred has to marinate.

331 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 4:30:35pm

BBL for FNDT

332 blueraven  Fri, Jun 25, 2010 5:58:55pm

re: #105 albusteve

BO does not secure the borders, or file suit against sanctuary cities...both in direct violation of US law...big whoop eh?...everybody does it right?

And Bush did any of those things? No, he just left everything for the next guy to fix. How about we give him till the end of one term to see what he accomplishes. Also, the republicans are part of congress, even if they don't act like it. They have to take some responsibility along with the ineffective democrats. They are the legislators.

333 abolitionist  Sat, Jun 26, 2010 2:41:21am

As some commenters on mediamatters opined, Randy Newman said it better in 1972:

Sail Away (Randy Newman song)

Lyrics and interpretation

"Sail Away" is representative of Newman's trademark unconventional and clever approach to songwriting: it takes the form of "come on" or "pitch" from an American slave trader to potential slaves. The slaver attempts to convince his listeners to climb aboard his ship and "sail away" with him to America (specifically Charleston), which he portrays as a land of happiness and plenty.

In America you'll get food to eat
Won't have to run through the jungle
And scuff up your feet
You'll just sing about Jesus and drink wine all day
It's great to be an American

Ain't no lions or tigers ain't no mamba snake
Just the sweet watermelon and the buckwheat cake
Ev'rybody is as happy as a man can be
Climb aboard little wog sail away with me

CHORUS
Sail away sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay
Sail away-sail away
We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay

In America every man is free
To take care of his home and his family
You'll be as happy as a monkey in a monkey tree
You're all gonna be an American

CHORUS
Randy Newman - Sail Away - YouTube video

334 abolitionist  Sat, Jun 26, 2010 2:52:05am

In the video, the banner overhead reads Old Grey Whistle Test.
Genius.


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