1 freetoken  Fri, Aug 6, 2010 10:25:48pm

Yeah - monsters!

2 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Aug 6, 2010 10:30:03pm

Landshark, Candy gram,....

3 jaunte  Fri, Aug 6, 2010 10:31:14pm

re: #2 Floral Giraffe

This valley is just one long smorgasbord.

4 Joven  Fri, Aug 6, 2010 10:43:34pm

It sound like the critters from "Tremors"

5 albusteve  Fri, Aug 6, 2010 10:57:09pm

Dune

6 palomino  Fri, Aug 6, 2010 11:04:34pm

What happened? Why doesn't everyone want to talk about football for the rest of the night?///

7 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Aug 6, 2010 11:08:02pm

re: #6 palomino

What happened? Why doesn't everyone want to talk about football for the rest of the night?///

I don't know how it works.

8 Ben G. Hazi  Fri, Aug 6, 2010 11:18:07pm

re: #4 Joven

It sound like the critters from "Tremors"

They are...

9 Vambo  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 12:24:29am

ahahahahaha. They even worked in the little buggers from the sequel.

AND a reference to The Giant Claw at the end.

10 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 12:26:03am

howdy all! wassup this night?

11 Iron-Confederate  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 12:30:47am

This is just me nit picking but if the graboid can detect solid rock, than how come the graboids don't detect solid walls of concrete or even cliff walls? Could it be that the graboids, while in chase of a prey, can easily become too distracted by their target that they not notice the dangerous obstacles?

12 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 12:40:34am

re: #11 Iron-Confederate

This is just me nit picking but if the graboid can detect solid rock, than how come the graboids don't detect solid walls of concrete or even cliff walls? Could it be that the graboids, while in chase of a prey, can easily become too distracted by their target that they not notice the dangerous obstacles?

I'd say yes. Their blood lust is like a teen aged football player's blind lust for cheerleaders regardless of the cheerleader's state of arousal.

just saying...

//

13 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 12:44:54am

12:44 PDT and I seem to be the only kook posting... yarrrrrr

14 simoom  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 12:45:37am

Thumbs up Governor:

[Link: www.sacbee.com...]

In an extraordinary court filing, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger asked Friday that gay marriages be allowed to resume immediately in California after a federal ruling that the state's voter-approved ban on gay marriage is unconstitutional.

The Republican governor filed his brief with U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn R. Walker before a Friday deadline to submit arguments on whether to continue a stay of Walker's decision against Proposition 8.

"The Administration believes the public interest is best served by permitting the Court's judgment to go into effect, thereby restoring the right of same-sex couples to marry in California," wrote Kenneth C. Mennemeier, an attorney representing Schwarzenegger, in the brief. "Doing so is consistent with California's long history of treating all people and their relationships with equal dignity and respect."

15 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 12:52:05am

posting with myself.. posting with myself

16 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 1:02:05am

echo......

17 freetoken  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 1:13:27am
18 Mardukhai  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 1:16:45am

I once worked out the math for the energy required for graboid locomotion through thick, rocky soil. It appears that they would require so much energy that their radiated heat would melt the rock.

They would, essentially, swim through lava of their own making.

19 freetoken  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 1:22:31am

Oh yes, the 1960's...

20 tnguitarist  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 1:23:40am

re: #15 boxhead

posting with myself.. posting with myself

....oh, oh, oh....

21 tnguitarist  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 1:25:45am

Nice and roomy in here.....think I'll stretch out.......put my feet on the coffee table....

22 tnguitarist  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 1:28:19am

So, anyway.......

Giraffe walks into a bar and says, "The highballs are on me".

{rimshot}

23 freetoken  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 1:30:33am

More 60's music, this quartet, sort of a Japanese Barber Shop group, the "Dark Ducks":

24 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 1:43:11am

re: #22 tnguitarist

So, anyway...

Giraffe walks into a bar and says, "The highballs are on me".

{rimshot}

so a dude walks into a bar carrying a piece of asphalt. He tells the bartender, "two beer, one for me, and one for the road."

25 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 1:44:53am

so a hamburger walks into a bar. He asks the bartender for a beer. The bartender says, "sorry, we don't serve food."

26 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 1:45:52am

a priest, a rabbi and a horse walk into a bar. The bartender say, "what is this, a joke?"

27 freetoken  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 1:48:29am

Hmmm.... bar jokes....

I think I'll stay with the music.

Here's more of the Dark Ducks, perhaps the most unusual and unique Japanese music group I've found on Youtube:

28 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 1:55:01am

re: #27 freetoken

Hmmm... bar jokes...

I think I'll stay with the music.

Here's more of the Dark Ducks, perhaps the most unusual and unique Japanese music group I've found on Youtube:


[Video]

uhhhhh.. very interesting...

I'll see your Japanese acappella and raise you some blues...


lol
29 tnguitarist  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 1:55:53am

Anyone ever heard of Unknown Hinson? I'm going to see him tomorrow night. He does the voice of Early Cuyler on the Squidbillies. He's also a hell of a guitarist and Billy Bob Thornton's bass player.

30 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:01:26am

re: #29 tnguitarist

Anyone ever heard of Unknown Hinson? I'm going to see him tomorrow night. He does the voice of Early Cuyler on the Squidbillies. He's also a hell of a guitarist and Billy Bob Thornton's bass player.


[Video]

punkabillie?

31 freetoken  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:01:40am

re: #29 tnguitarist

Hmmm... "Hinson" - sounded familiar. Let's see:

If tomorrow night when the act opens the musicians come out in powder-blue tuxedoes then you'll know you're in trouble.

32 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:03:40am

re: #31 freetoken

Hmmm... "Hinson" - sounded familiar. Let's see:


[Video]If tomorrow night when the act opens the musicians come out in powder-blue tuxedoes then you'll know you're in trouble.

ooohhh ... not my cup of tea... :)

33 tnguitarist  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:04:34am

re: #30 boxhead

punkabillie?

Hard to explain. He's got a schtick. He started on his own public access show back in the early 90's. I would say he leans toward punkabilly. Hank Williams III has a tattoo of Unknown. The sound quality sucks on this video, but his licks.....

34 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:06:15am

re: #33 tnguitarist

Hard to explain. He's got a schtick. He started on his own public access show back in the early 90's. I would say he leans toward punkabilly. Hank Williams III has a tattoo of Unknown. The sound quality sucks on this video, but his licks...


[Video]

OK... I dig this... :)

35 tnguitarist  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:07:05am

re: #30 boxhead

And the chops are fake. He's a super cool dude and funny as hell.

36 tnguitarist  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:11:20am

re: #34 boxhead

OK... I dig this... :)

Have you ever seen the cartoon Squidbillies on Adult Swim?

Giant foam Dickhat trouble

He's the voice of Early. It may be a southern thing, but I love it.

37 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:17:35am

re: #36 tnguitarist

Have you ever seen the cartoon Squidbillies on Adult Swim?

Giant foam Dickhat trouble

He's the voice of Early. It may be a southern thing, but I love it.

hmm looks cool..... I saw The Reverend Horton Heat a few months back. I was in the pit slam dancing with the youngins... :)

38 tnguitarist  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:20:22am

re: #37 boxhead

hmm looks cool... I saw The Reverend Horton Heat a few months back. I was in the pit slam dancing with the youngins... :)

I hurt my neck in a pit at a Motorhead show years ago. Still can't turn it all the way to the left. Also saw a lady get shot in the parking lot that night. Interesting evening.

39 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:20:40am

re: #36 tnguitarist

I see you are new member here as well. I was reading here for a while and always missed the open registration windows. Does Charles have it open all the time now?

40 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:22:53am

re: #38 tnguitarist

I hurt my neck in a pit at a Motorhead show years ago. Still can't turn it all the way to the left. Also saw a lady get shot in the parking lot that night. Interesting evening.

wow...... not cool... I got socked at Bad Religion's 30th year tour in June. I grabbed him and road the guy down to the ground... :) I really am a peaceful dude though..

41 tnguitarist  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:23:09am

re: #39 boxhead

I see you are new member here as well. I was reading here for a while and always missed the open registration windows. Does Charles have it open all the time now?

Not sure. I happened to jump in one day when he had an open window. I haven't seen him do an open registration in a while, and I see new folks popping up all the time.....

42 tnguitarist  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:25:30am

re: #40 boxhead

wow... not cool... I got socked at Bad Religion's 30th year tour in June. I grabbed him and road the guy down to the ground... :) I really am a peaceful dude though..

Ah, Bad religion. What a great band.

43 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:26:49am

I trip on the internal squabbling here. Some very protective folks here.

I fully understand, but it is weird when I am posting normal stuff while flames are flying between my posts and whomever I and talking with... :)

Overall this place rocks!

44 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:28:19am

re: #42 tnguitarist

Ah, Bad religion. What a great band.


[Video]

yep... They are my age.. :) lol I have seen them more times than I can count!!

45 tnguitarist  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:29:49am

re: #43 boxhead

I trip on the internal squabbling here. Some very protective folks here.

I fully understand, but it is weird when I am posting normal stuff while flames are flying between my posts and whomever I and talking with... :)

Overall this place rocks!

Amen.

46 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:32:09am

alright tn... time to sleep... btw, your name implies u r a guitarist? do you rock?

47 tnguitarist  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:35:30am

re: #44 boxhead

yep... They are my age.. :) lol I have seen them more times than I can count!!

I would guess you're a tad older than me. I grew up on the music of the 80's, but Alice in Chains was probably my biggest musical influence.

48 tnguitarist  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:36:13am

re: #46 boxhead

alright tn... time to sleep... btw, your name implies u r a guitarist? do you rock?

I do indeed rock. Although I'm from TN, I despise country.

49 boxhead  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:37:27am

re: #48 tnguitarist

I do indeed rock. Although I'm from TN, I despise country.

lol.... the older country is cool. The mainstream stuff I hear today is as bad as pop.

nite!

50 tnguitarist  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 2:38:04am

re: #49 boxhead

lol... the older country is cool. The mainstream stuff I hear today is as bad as pop.

nite!

It's pop with a cowboy hat. Nite!

51 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 4:50:45am

Since when did "retard" become an acceptable word here?

And, since when did I claim to be "pure"?

Man, my knickers are in a major twist.

The very fucking idea.

52 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:14:36am

re: #51 MandyManners

Since when did "retard" become an acceptable word here?

And, since when did I claim to be "pure"?

Man, my knickers are in a major twist.

The very fucking idea.

that is one of the favorite words from the left, I've noticed.
It is bothersome, but those who use it can't be swayed to understand it is offensive to others.

53 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:24:54am

re: #51 MandyManners

Since when did "retard" become an acceptable word here?

And, since when did I claim to be "pure"?

Man, my knickers are in a major twist.

The very fucking idea.

Use of that term torques my gourd also.
I do not recall any such claims on your part, either. Someone building strawmen again?

54 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:25:00am

re: #52 Stonemason

that is one of the favorite words from the left, I've noticed.
It is bothersome, but those who use it can't be swayed to understand it is offensive to others.

and before I am attacked for making the above statement, here are the search results.

Other then Cato, who seems to be both left and right, the overwhelming majority of those who comment here who use that word are left of center.

55 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:26:26am

re: #52 Stonemason

that is one of the favorite words from the left, I've noticed.
It is bothersome, but those who use it can't be swayed to understand it is offensive to others.

Its use knows no ideological boundaries.

56 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:27:33am

re: #53 Taqyia2Me

Use of that term torques my gourd also.
I do not recall any such claims on your part, either. Someone building strawmen again?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

57 Gus  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:28:27am

re: #56 MandyManners

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Damn. I went to sleep and wake up and come here to find this?

Here, this is from the 2007 Fiskies at LGF:

2007 LGF Awards Nominations Open
Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 2:18:44 pm PST

Ray Hanania
Ray Taliaferro
Retard In A Leotard Galloway
Reuters
Richard Dawkins

58 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:28:28am

re: #54 Stonemason

and before I am attacked for making the above statement, here are the search results.

Other then Cato, who seems to be both left and right, the overwhelming majority of those who comment here who use that word are left of center.

Is it a Palin thing?

Rush used it, too.

59 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:29:04am

re: #57 Gus 802

So?

60 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:29:31am

I'm just gonna' step back.

61 Gus  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:29:41am

re: #59 MandyManners

So?

Right. So. Whatever. You just want to keep beating a dead horse. Trying to start trouble.

62 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:36:49am

Morning all!

63 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:38:27am

re: #56 MandyManners

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Gus 802 qualifies, IMHO, as a very solid poster here, a non-idiot.
I guess I would have to know more about the context of this particular thread.

64 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:40:26am

re: #58 MandyManners

Rush? don't listen, but it doesn't surprise me.
A certain arrogance plays into the use of that term.

65 Gus  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:40:46am

re: #63 Taqyia2Me

Gus 802 qualifies, IMHO, as a very solid poster here, a non-idiot.
I guess I would have to know more about the context of this particular thread.

Thanks. I used it referring to the stalker site.

OK, here's the deal. I won't use it again. I also think we need to stop bringing up that place from now on.

66 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:43:10am

re: #54 Stonemason

and before I am attacked for making the above statement, here are the search results.

Other then Cato, who seems to be both left and right, the overwhelming majority of those who comment here who use that word are left of center.

Not sure that I'm left of center, I consider myself straight down the middle, but I use it all the time. I use it so often that I've been afraid to have children for fear of paybacks. I've refrained from using it here because someone complained. I try to play nice.

67 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:47:43am

re: #66 RogueOne

Which, Rogue, is why I used 'overwhelming majority', and 'left of center' rather than 'all moonbats who post here' or 'everyone' or...

you get the picture. I know that there is no true ideological line where slurs are concerned, but that search shows which posters use it most, and those are, well, left of center.

68 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:54:04am

re: #67 Stonemason

Which, Rogue, is why I used 'overwhelming majority', and 'left of center' rather than 'all moonbats who post here' or 'everyone' or...

you get the picture. I know that there is no true ideological line where slurs are concerned, but that search shows which posters use it most, and those are, well, left of center.

I take a great deal of pleasure in making fun of people, friend or foe. It's my hobby. I've managed to refrain here because it's hard to do sarcasm in text and people don't know if I'm serious or not. My first day here I made a wisecrack about people from Denver and completely set people off. I think I started off with close to -100 karma.

69 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 5:57:04am

re: #65 Gus 802

Thanks. I used it referring to the stalker site.

OK, here's the deal. I won't use it again. I also think we need to stop bringing up that place from now on.

Other than a site called The Drudge Retort, I have seen nothing on the interwebs that comes close to that place...and last time I looked, The.Drudge Retort wasn't even close.

70 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:14:44am

One good thing about the economy, you can buy stuff at crack addict prices. I bought a set of dumbbells, used, yesterday for $100. That's less than $1/lb.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:17:44am

re: #70 RogueOne

Crack addicts buy dumbbells?

72 reloadingisnotahobby  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:17:50am

re: #70 RogueOne

But the freight will be a workout!!

73 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:24:10am

re: #71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No, crack addicts end up selling all their shit for $5 an item. Don't you know any proper crack whores?


re: #72 reloadingisnotahobby

But the freight will be a workout!!

No freight, bought straight out of the guys garage. I haven't bought any new equipment for at least a decade. I'm very impressed with the quick switch. Gotta love modern technology, it's like magic. A MF'ing miracle!

74 Ericus58  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:29:10am

For any of those with the opinion that the U.S. and/or NATO should up a pull out of Afghanistan - this morning comes a reminder of the type of pain and suffering that will result of our departure:

6 Americans on medical team killed in Afghanistan
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

""This tragedy negatively impacts our ability to continue serving the Afghan people as IAM has been doing since 1966," the charity said in a statement. "We hope it will not stop our work that benefits over a quarter of a million Afghans each year."

The team, made up of doctors, nurses and logistics personnel, was attacked as it was returning to Kabul after the two-week mission in Nuristan, Frans said. They had decided to travel through Badakhshan province to return to the capital because they thought it would be the safest route, Frans said."

This is not an issue to be soft about. It's tough for not just the Military folks we have in harm's way and their families, but for all westerners trying to improve the lives of those caught in this conflict.
We must not abandon those who depend on the western world - which includes the U.N. - to help and enable the people of Afghanistan build a nation that will embrace those ideals and freedoms that all free people strive for and deserve.
And I say this with a son in ROTC who upon getting his Butter Bars next spring might well be posted there.

75 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:34:45am

Yesterday I had a conversation with some concerning taking MediaMatters seriously when they do the same thing as Breitbart. I wish I had seen this yesterday:

Media Matters Gives Glenn Beck’s Co-Hosts The Shirley Sherrod Edited Audio Treatment
[Link: www.mediaite.com...]


Let’s end the week with some Shirley Sherrod-ing – editing a clip to make it sound like a person is saying something that is actually the complete opposite of what they’re saying.

In this case, the offender is Media Matters, which tries to prove that Glenn Beck’s radio co-hosts were saying Keith Olbermann was responsible for the deadly Manchester workplace shooting.

To their credit they owned up to their "mistake" after they were called on it. Of course, there is no way they didn't know they were lying when they originally posted the story. There was also another Breitbart problem:

Andrew Breitbart’s Video ‘Evidence’ Of Lying Congressmen Is Anything But
[Link: www.mediaite.com...]


As long as people continue to give them any credibility and traffic this phony "gotcha" crap will continue. Stop believing one side is better than the other just because you agree politically.

76 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:36:16am

re: #74 Ericus58

My best friends boy is shipping out tomorrow. They've pushed his date back 3 times now. We were talking this morning and he pointed out his boy was only 10 yrs old when the towers came down.

77 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:37:12am

re: #75 RogueOne

Hee hee. I love it when people insist, over and over again, that both 'sides' are equally bad. Not that there are actually two sides.

It's so wildly improbable it boggles the mind.

It's kinda cute.

78 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:38:36am

re: #77 Obdicut

Hee hee. I love it when people insist, over and over again, that both 'sides' are equally bad. Not that there are actually two sides.

It's so wildly improbable it boggles the mind.

It's kinda cute.

Of course you do because you're more interested in how your team is doing than reality. Do you still wonder why I call you "cheerleader"?

79 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:43:04am

re: #78 RogueOne

Of course you do because you're more interested in how your team is doing than reality. Do you still wonder why I call you "cheerleader"?

No, I know why you call me cheerleader. It's because you think there actually are 'teams'.

There aren't teams. Obama is not my guy. Obama is not doing much good at all about renewable energy, which is my main concern, health care, while a tiny first step, is still screwed, and the country is still full of unadressed, systemic problems. The finance reform won't do jack because it's not algorithmically evolutionary, and the markets are.

Yet somehow to you, because I say that the right-wing is currently crazier-- which it is-- you transform that into me being a cheerleader-- and you don't even notice the irony of that.


Media matters has distorted crap before and will distort stuff in the future. However, it is really easy to compare them to Breitbart and use common sense to see that Brietbart is far more extreme than they are, and far more damaging to the national discourse.

Except, for you, somehow the magical balance fairy means that the 'sides' are always equal.


Like I said, kinda cute.

80 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:43:28am

re: #65 Gus 802

Thanks. I used it referring to the stalker site.

OK, here's the deal. I won't use it again. I also think we need to stop bringing up that place from now on.

Gus,

Good on you! I have a son with autism and absolutely hate that word.

Good Morning Lizards!

81 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:44:04am

re: #78 RogueOne

Of course you do because you're more interested in how your team is doing than reality. Do you still wonder why I call you "cheerleader"?

Is it his cute legs and the short skirt he always wears?
//

82 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:44:22am

re: #81 rwdflynavy

I do have amazing calves.

83 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:44:53am

re: #78 RogueOne

Of course you do because you're more interested in how your team is doing than reality. Do you still wonder why I call you "cheerleader"?

*shaking pom-poms*

84 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:46:00am

re: #81 rwdflynavy

Is it his cute legs and the short skirt he always wears?
//

@@@round-off_*_

85 pharmmajor  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:46:28am

I really want to see more of this. Mr. Robink needs to pitch this show to Discovery Channel.

86 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:47:37am

Six fucking days a week I get up long before the sun rises. Sundays? I'm lucky to be able to force myself to sleep until 6:00. Cranky. Grouchy. Bitchy.

87 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:50:40am
88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:51:19am

Holy Mackerel!

Chinese are developing some serious shit.

89 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:51:24am

re: #79 Obdicut

Sorry obdi but I've seen you parrot the company line way too many times up to and including the whole "HCR is going to reduce costs" BS. You want to believe in the goodness of democrat leadership and that's ok. I, otoh, take for granted that just about everything I'm told is a lie in one way or another.

You want to believe MM is an ok site (comparatively) because it agrees with your politics while when I see a 60 sec clip being posted I automatically assume it's crap regardless of the source. MM and Breitbart are the same, they make their living out of distorting reality for the gullible.

I think it might be you're just young and idealistic while I've never been either. It's alright, you're young. You'll adjust.

90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:52:51am

re: #79 Obdicut

re: #89 RogueOne

Get a room, you two.

91 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:53:47am

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #89 RogueOne

Get a room, you two.

Yeah, it's too early for fighting. Lets start over.


Morning Obdi!

92 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:54:54am

rwdflynavy, how do you like that Tasker program now that you've had time to use it?

93 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:55:16am

re: #89 RogueOne

Sorry obdi but I've seen you parrot the company line way too many times up to and including the whole "HCR is going to reduce costs" BS.

What would the cost of not passing HCR have been, Rogue?

You want to believe in the goodness of democrat leadership and that's ok.

Even though I just explained why they're being nearly ineffective. Yep. Your view of me totally matches with reality!

You want to believe MM is an ok site (comparatively)

I don't think they're okay. I think they go too far, and defeat their own agenda on a regular basis-- like Alan Grayson. I prefer Weiner to Grayson, for that very reason. I would rather Media Matters not even exist.

That doesn't mean that Breitbart isn't worse.

MM and Breitbart are the same, they make their living out of distorting reality for the gullible.

Heh. Trying to find some way they're balanced against each other. That magical balance fairy really has you jumping through hoops.

I think it might be you're just young and idealistic while I've never been either. It's alright, you're young. You'll adjust.

Hee hee. Yeah, Rogue, that'll get to me. Ooh, I got called young.

Aren't I older than you?

94 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:56:10am

re: #81 rwdflynavy

Is it his cute legs and the short skirt he always wears?
//

BTW, I never meant that term as a challenge to anyones manhood. I'll stop using it and pick a better term like "Company Man".

95 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:56:56am

Federal law enforcement officials are praising Somali-Americans for their help in an investigation which resulted in the indictment Thursday of 14 people on charges of providing money, services and personnel to the terrorist organization al-Shabaab. A large part of the credit goes to Abdirizak Bihi, a Somali community leader in Minneapolis who persevered despite opposition from the Council on American-Islamic Relations and hostile mosque leaders.

SNIP

Mosque leaders also tried to discourage parents from speaking out when young Somalis began disappearing in 2007 - warning that if they talked to the FBI, their children will be incarcerated at a detention facility like Guantanamo Bay. Bihi singled out the local CAIR chapter for criticism, after the group discouraged families from cooperating with law enforcement.

"We were the first [Muslim community in the United States] to stand up to them," Bihi said regarding CAIR's objections to Somalis talking to the FBI without a lawyer. He was referring to this 2009 protest by Somali families outside a July 4 CAIR event.

SNIP

96 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:57:00am

re: #91 RogueOne

This isn't fighting.

I think we know what fighting looks like.

97 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:57:33am

re: #92 RogueOne

rwdflynavy, how do you like that Tasker program now that you've had time to use it?

It is cool, but I haven't had time to do too much with it. Right now I have it turn GPS on when I put the X in the Car Dock and I have it go to vibrate when I place my phone face down at work. It is a really powerful program, I just haven't done much with it. Lifehacker.com keeps featuring new things you can do, but I haven't implemented any yet.

98 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:57:47am

re: #93 Obdicut

Aren't I older than you?

Not by a long shot. Judging by your wedding photos (which were nice btw) I'd say I'm at least 15 years older unless you just look young.

99 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:58:54am

re: #98 RogueOne

Not by a long shot. Judging by your wedding photos (which were nice btw) I'd say I'm at least 15 years older unless you just look young.

Heh. Okay. No offense, but I thought you were about ten years younger than I was.

Noted; less slack granted in future.

100 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:59:08am

re: #97 rwdflynavy

It is cool, but I haven't had time to do too much with it. Right now I have it turn GPS on when I put the X in the Car Dock and I have it go to vibrate when I place my phone face down at work. It is a really powerful program, I just haven't done much with it. Lifehacker.com keeps featuring new things you can do, but I haven't implemented any yet.

I like the one I use but it's not as powerful as Tasker and it keeps screwing up my settings when I use bluetooth. I was going to check out tasker this weekend.

101 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 6:59:58am
102 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:02:25am

re: #99 Obdicut

Heh. Okay. No offense, but I thought you were about ten years younger than I was.

Noted; less slack granted in future.

The people I joined the army with are now retiring. My HS 25th reunion is this month. I'm Ooold, but I do look damn good.

103 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:03:12am

re: #100 RogueOne

I like the one I use but it's not as powerful as Tasker and it keeps screwing up my settings when I use bluetooth. I was going to check out tasker this weekend.

It seems real powerful. Check out articles on lifehacker, plus the tasker website has a wiki that is being populated by users. Your imagination seems to be the limiting factor in what it can do.

104 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:03:54am

re: #100 RogueOne

I like the one I use but it's not as powerful as Tasker and it keeps screwing up my settings when I use bluetooth. I was going to check out tasker this weekend.

"Tasker"?

I thought you said "Talisker".

Man, I hate Scotch right now.

105 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:03:56am

re: #102 RogueOne

The people I joined the army with are now retiring. My HS 25th reunion is this month. I'm Ooold, but I do look damn good.

We're about the same age then, I graduated HS in 86 and have 20 years in the Navy so far.

106 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:04:17am

re: #102 RogueOne

The people I joined the army with are now retiring. My HS 25th reunion is this month. I'm Ooold, but I do look damn good.

*pinches butt*

107 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:04:30am

re: #103 rwdflynavy

It seems real powerful. Check out articles on lifehacker, plus the tasker website has a wiki that is being populated by users. Your imagination seems to be the limiting factor in what it can do.

I did some reading on their wiki last weekend when you posted the app. I like the idea of being able to implement all of my apps and not just my hardware into my settings.

108 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:06:08am

re: #105 rwdflynavy

We're about the same age then, I graduated HS in 86 and have 20 years in the Navy so far.

How did you end up in aviation? When I graduated OCS we only had one guy get the aviation branch. We also only had one person go intel, me!

109 Ericus58  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:07:12am

re: #102 RogueOne

The people I joined the army with are now retiring. My HS 25th reunion is this month. I'm Ooold, but I do look damn good.

Meh - my 30 yr was 3 years ago......

*shuffles off to spray ant-killer while muttering "young whipper snappers anywho.....".

110 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:07:39am

re: #108 RogueOne

How did you end up in aviation? When I graduated OCS we only had one guy get the aviation branch. We also only had one person go intel, me!

Lots of aviators out of ROTC at Va Tech in 1990. Intel is fairly rare for ROTC guys.

111 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:10:10am

re: #110 rwdflynavy

Lots of aviators out of ROTC at Va Tech in 1990. Intel is fairly rare for ROTC guys.

Here I've liked you all this time and I didn't know you were a ROTC puke. That almost hurts my feelings.//

112 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:13:26am

re: #109 Ericus58

Meh - my 30 yr was 3 years ago...

*shuffles off to spray ant-killer while muttering "young whipper snappers anywho...".

HEY ,, YOU KIDS ,,, GET OFF MY LAWN

113 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:13:45am

Ericus, your son graduates next spring?

114 Varek Raith  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:14:32am

Heh, Senior Hour!
:P

115 [deleted]  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:14:50am
116 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:15:09am

re: #114 Varek Raith

Heh, Senior Hour!
:P

huh ,,, what,,, speak up, sonny!

117 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:16:08am

I'll tell you what. The Kid better give me his Super Bowl ring.

118 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:16:49am

re: #117 MandyManners

I'll tell you what. The Kid better give me his Super Bowl ring.

When mine was his age, he gave us a bath tub ring
Does that count !?!?

119 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:17:32am

Mornin' folks...good day for a swim...on Mt. Everest.

120 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:19:40am

re: #111 RogueOne

Here I've liked you all this time and I didn't know you were a ROTC puke. That almost hurts my feelings.//

Worse, Corps of Cadets at Va Tech. All Army drill and discipline. Navy ROTC had very little to do with my training. Wore a Corps uniform all through college and lived in the Corps dorms.

121 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:21:39am

re: #120 rwdflynavy

Worse, Corps of Cadets at Va Tech. All Army drill and discipline. Navy ROTC had very little to do with my training. Wore a Corps uniform all through college and lived in the Corps dorms.

just ONE?

Hope you at least washed it every once in awhile!!

122 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:22:21am

re: #121 sattv4u2

just ONE?

Hope you at least washed it every once in awhile!!

Once a year whether it needed it or not.

123 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:22:58am

re: #118 sattv4u2

When mine was his age, he gave us a bath tub ring
Does that count !?!?

Cook chunks of Italian sausage with chopped up red bell peppers and a bunch of minced garlice, oregano and basil. Let it simmer with about a 1/2 cup of veggie stock. Serve it over a mess of bow-tie pasta.

I just discovered a few minutes ago that sometime last night before bed, The Kid ate every single piece of meat in the dish so all I have for breakfast is freakin' pasta with red bell peppers.

124 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:23:26am

GARLIC.

125 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:24:11am

re: #122 rwdflynavy

Once a year whether it needed it or not.

Heh...that's like what I tell my wife when she asks if I've watered the plants. "They know where the faucet is...if they're thirsty enough, they'll use it."

126 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:25:42am

A $10 billion teacher bailout bill that is on a fast track to congressional approval is paid for, in part, with a $3.3 billion cut in defense programs.

The defense cuts may not cause much harm because it is money previously approved but unspent that is simply being rescinded, including $683.5 million unspent from last year’s economic stimulus package and $325 million that was supposed to pay for construction projects.

However, diverting money from the defense budget to education programs would eliminate any opportunity for the Defense Department or Congress to take unobligated money from one defense program to spend on another defense program.

BOOKS NOT BOMBS!!!!

127 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:25:58am

re: #120 rwdflynavy

Worse, Corps of Cadets at Va Tech. All Army drill and discipline. Navy ROTC had very little to do with my training. Wore a Corps uniform all through college and lived in the Corps dorms.

I'd make fun of you but that's actually pretty cool. Plus, it could be worse. You could have been a graduate of VMI.

128 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:26:56am

re: #127 RogueOne

I'd make fun of you but that's actually pretty cool. Plus, it could be worse. You could have been a graduate of VMI.

*shudders*

I wanted to go to a college with girls!

129 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:27:40am

re: #128 rwdflynavy

*shudders*

I wanted to go to a college with girls!

I'm told that we're squishy.

130 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:27:57am

Speaking of girls, off for a day date with my bride and fellow Hokie. Later Lizards.

131 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:28:10am

If I had a brain I'd take it out and play with it.

132 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:28:49am

re: #129 MandyManners

I'm told that we're squishy.

in bed

133 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:29:40am

How not to be a tracker

Wednesday afternoon as our building held an ice cream social in the lobby, a young man showed up at Media Matters office armed with a camera. Positioning himself outside our office, he proceeded to ask people leaving the building what it was like to work for George Soros.

I decided to go have a conversation with him:


Another young 20 something kid doing obnoxious "political" interviews who won't say who he works for.

134 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:29:55am

re: #123 MandyManners

Cook chunks of Italian sausage with chopped up red bell peppers and a bunch of minced garlice, oregano and basil. Let it simmer with about a 1/2 cup of veggie stock. Serve it over a mess of bow-tie pasta.

That sounds a lot like my favorite pizza. All you need to do is take out the pasta and add pepporoni and bacon.

135 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:30:22am

re: #132 sattv4u2

in bed

Deviated prevert.

136 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:30:37am

re: #126 MandyManners

A $10 billion teacher bailout bill that is on a fast track to congressional approval is paid for, in part, with a $3.3 billion cut in defense programs.

Good. Though I don't consider funding teachers necessarily a "bail out". I mean, they get shit wages to begin with...though I'm sure Fox will run a story showing some teacher on a Jet-ski and everyone will see that as government waste.

137 Ericus58  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:30:44am

re: #113 RogueOne

Ericus, your son graduates next spring?

Indeed - he'll be back on campus after next week to start training up the Juniors in ROTC. Likes the school and city, hates the weather ;)
Univ of San Fran

138 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:30:59am

re: #135 MandyManners

Deviated prevert.

IN BED!

139 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:32:48am

re: #137 Ericus58

Indeed - he'll be back on campus after next week to start training up the Juniors in ROTC. Likes the school and city, hates the weather ;)
Univ of San Fran

When will find out his branch, will that happen sometime during this school year or after graduation? I guess he could already have a contract too. Well, which is it? I'm nosy!

140 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:35:22am

re: #133 Killgore Trout

From its Wiki:

Media Matters initially received "more than $2 million in donations from wealthy liberals" with ties to the Democratic party (including Peter Lewis of Progressive Insurance, Steve Bing, Marcy Carsey, Susie Tompkins Buell, Leo Hindrey, Gail Furman, and James Hormel) and "was developed with help from the newly formed Center for American Progress".[15][16][17] It also has received significant funding from Democracy Alliance (funded in large measure by George Soros), MoveOn.org, and the New Democrat Network.[17][18] Media Matters hired numerous political professionals who had worked for Democratic politicians and for other progressive groups.[19] [20] Former chief of staff to president Bill Clinton John Podesta provided office space for Media Matters early in its formation at the Center for American Progress, a Democratic think tank that he had created in 2002.[21] Hillary Clinton advised Media Matters in its early stages out of a belief that progressives should follow conservatives in forming think tanks and advocacy groups to support their political goals.[22] [23] A May 2004 article on Media Matters in the conservative National Review referred to MMfA staffers who had recently worked on the presidential campaigns of John Edwards and Wesley Clark, for Congressman Barney Frank, and for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.[24]. In July 2006, Media Matters for America opened a state chapter, Colorado Media Matters [1]. Media Matters recruited Colorado natives to run Colorado Media Matters and to analyze the local state media using the original Media Matters' research techniques. The chapter closed its doors in March 2009.[25]

141 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:35:45am

re: #133 Killgore Trout

Wannabe O'Keefe Fail. Ha!

142 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:36:01am

re: #136 darthstar

Good. Though I don't consider funding teachers necessarily a "bail out". I mean, they get shit wages to begin with...though I'm sure Fox will run a story showing some teacher on a Jet-ski and everyone will see that as government waste.

GOOD? THAT THE BUDGET FOR OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM HAS BEEN CUT???

143 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:36:27am

Later, taters!

144 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:37:05am

Mornin' Honcos.

145 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:37:24am

Oh, and the person from whom I found out about Peter Lewis is, was Charles Johnson.

146 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:38:16am

re: #136 darthstar

Good. Though I don't consider funding teachers necessarily a "bail out". I mean, they get shit wages to begin with...

as opposed to troops who make a damn fortune. Toss in the bonus you get for being in a war zone and we're talking some serious dollars here.

147 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:38:28am

re: #145 MandyManners

Oh, and the person from whom I found out about Peter Lewis is, was Charles Johnson.

Fuck him. (Lewis, that is)

148 Ericus58  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:39:58am

re: #139 RogueOne

When will find out his branch, will that happen sometime during this school year or after graduation? I guess he could already have a contract too. Well, which is it? I'm nosy!

He's submitted his wish-list for his field choices and post assignments about two months ago. Now that he's completed LDAC, his assessments will be factored in and he should have some feedback around October I think.
Mech Inf, Arty, EOD, Chem I think is what is his leanings. MP was at one time.

149 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:40:43am

re: #142 MandyManners

GOOD? THAT THE BUDGET FOR OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM HAS BEEN CUT???

Our budget for the men and women in uniform is the most bloated military budget on the planet. The article you copy/pasted from even says that most of the money comes from funds that the military never spent (i.e. They've got so much money allocated to them they can't spend it all).

In other words, this is not the outrageous outrage you're looking for.

150 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:42:42am

re: #140 MandyManners

Now now Mandy

Media Matters is a totally legit impartial observer which always excoriates blatant lies and distortions put out by all sides of the 4th estate!

((okay ,,, my hair now hurts from typing that!!)

151 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:43:50am

re: #146 RogueOne

as opposed to troops who make a damn fortune. Toss in the bonus you get for being in a war zone and we're talking some serious dollars here.

Hey, I'm all for paying our troops more money. But this is manufactured outrage. Be pissed at the bank bailouts, or auto bailouts, or whatever floats your boat, but really...10 billion for teachers and police and suddenly everyone's CONCERNED??? Fuck. Me.

152 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:44:20am

re: #150 sattv4u2

Now now Mandy

Media Matters is a totally legit impartial observer which always excoriates blatant lies and distortions put out by all sides of the 4th estate!

((okay ,,, my hair now hurts from typing that!!)

Yet people piss and moan about Fox News. (which, BTW, I don't watch)

153 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:46:28am

re: #149 darthstar

Our budget for the men and women in uniform is the most bloated military budget on the planet

4.3% of GDP is "bloated'?

154 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:46:39am

re: #141 darthstar

Wannabe O'Keefe Fail. Ha!

I suspect this might be the same kid here....
Congressman Assaults Student on Washington Sidewalk

155 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:49:04am

re: #152 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yet people piss and moan about Fox News. (which, BTW, I don't watch)

Media Matters is a blog. Yes, a liberal blog that posts videos of media personalities talking out their asses, primarily. But really, equating them with Fox news? Don't you think that's just a little bit of a stretch?

On second thought, I guess in the micro-universe of the internet that Media Matters and Fox are on fairly equal footing. It's a good thing most Americans don't live on the internet (myself and present company excluded)...otherwise, this could be bad news for Murdoch.

156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:53:08am

re: #154 Killgore Trout

I'll bet these guys get that shit from "students" every day. Won't identify themselves... film them, etc.

I'd fucking kill a "student" at some point.

But that would be wrong, so? I don't run.

157 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:53:09am

re: #155 darthstar

I get your point. I actually had this conversation yesterday with my boss. The best thing I can say is if you and I are sitting on a couch and we watch Fox or read Media Matters, we know how to filter through the bullshit. Sad more people can't.

158 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:53:26am

re: #148 Ericus58

He's submitted his wish-list for his field choices and post assignments about two months ago. Now that he's completed LDAC, his assessments will be factored in and he should have some feedback around October I think.
Mech Inf, Arty, EOD, Chem I think is what is his leanings. MP was at one time.

Best of luck to you both. Anyone who has signed up or decided to stay in during the last 7 years or so all get extra credit on the ballsiness scale. Especially those young men who have to know they're going in a combat arms job.

Mech Infantry is where he'll have the most fun. For myself I was hoping for Chem but I figured I'd get Mech. IMO, A 2lt job in mech is best job ever.

159 bratwurst  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:54:24am

Hey RogueOne:

Yesterday you said that most of the racist Rush Limbaugh quotes were made up as you recalled. Care to take a look at the verified racist quote list Charles put together?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

160 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:54:48am

re: #146 RogueOne

as opposed to troops who make a damn fortune. Toss in the bonus you get for being in a war zone and we're talking some serious dollars here.

My son, a high school junior, has a tough choice to make

Become a business tycoon
Become a major league sports star

Or go into the military so he can make the BIG bucks!!!

161 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:54:58am

re: #156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

OT- Prayers, my friend.

162 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:55:58am

re: #156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #161 Cannadian Club Akbar

OT- Prayers, my friend.

Ditto

We're here for you, big guy!

163 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:56:20am

re: #160 sattv4u2

My son, a high school junior, has a tough choice to make

Become a business tycoon
Become a major league sports star

Or go into the military so he can make the BIG bucks!!!

Or he could smoke pot and live under a bridge and own a shopping cart. Why limit him?
///

164 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:56:21am

re: #160 sattv4u2

My son, a high school junior, has a tough choice to make

Become a business tycoon
Become a major league sports star

Or go into the military so he can make the BIG bucks!!!

How about college?

165 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:57:19am

re: #164 darthstar

How about college?

Alex, I'll take a clue for a hundred please!

166 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:58:18am

re: #163 Cannadian Club Akbar

Or he could smoke pot and live under a bridge and own a shopping cart. Why limit him?
///

All the good bridges are already spoken for

167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:58:33am

re: #161 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #162 sattv4u2

Turns out that the kid has had a UTI (urinary tract infection); common with paralysis victims. Un-detected. Has turned in to storm of infection through him. In his lungs, and he went septic. It's in his blood now.

Just a matter of time, it appears.

Heading to hospital. Y'all?

Thanks.

168 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:58:52am

re: #165 sattv4u2

Alex, I'll take a clue for a hundred please!

Hey, it's your kid...you encourage him however you want.

169 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 7:59:16am

re: #167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #162 sattv4u2

Turns out that the kid has had a UTI (urinary tract infection); common with paralysis victims. Un-detected. Has turned in to storm of infection through him. In his lungs, and he went septic. It's in his blood now.

Just a matter of time, it appears.

Heading to hospital. Y'all?

Thanks.

A transfusion wouldn't cure it?
damn!

170 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:00:23am

re: #167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fuck.

171 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:01:08am

re: #167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Shit. Sorry to hear that. Lost a fellow ski patroller last year after an infection went rampant on him.

172 Four More Tears  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:01:25am

re: #167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Best wishes for your daughter. It sounds like she needs them more than anyone.

173 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:01:34am

re: #159 bratwurst

Hey RogueOne:

Yesterday you said that most of the racist Rush Limbaugh quotes were made up as you recalled. Care to take a look at the verified racist quote list Charles put together?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Did media matters not run phony limbaugh quotes since that's what we were talking about?

174 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:02:58am

re: #173 RogueOne

Did media matters not run phony limbaugh quotes since that's what we were talking about?

A. Why would anyone need to run phony quotes by Limbaugh?

B. You're defending Limbaugh?

fuuuck.

175 Four More Tears  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:03:33am

Gaza power plant shuts down citing lack of fuel

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip — Engineers shut down Gaza City's sole power plant on Saturday because of a lack of fuel, switching off electricity to some half a million people in the midst of a heat wave.

The fuel for the plant is supplied by the rival Palestinian government in the West Bank, which says it has reduced shipments because the Gaza's Hamas government is behind on payments.

It's still the Jews' fault though, right?

/

176 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:04:00am

re: #174 darthstar

A. Why would anyone need to run phony quotes by Limbaugh?

B. You're defending Limbaugh?

fuuuck.

No. I was discouraging people yesterday for taking a MediaMatters report at face value. I didn't realize that would be so controversial.

177 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:05:10am

re: #174 darthstar

A. Why would anyone need to run phony quotes by Limbaugh?

Media Matters thought they had too obviously

B. You're defending Limbaugh?

No defense of him there. He stated some shitty things. He also DIDN'T say some shitty things he was accused of and thats what Rogue was referring too

fuuuck.

178 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:05:20am

I hate the fucking media. Both sides.

179 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:06:04am

re: #176 RogueOne

No. I was discouraging people yesterday for taking a MediaMatters report at face value. I didn't realize that would be so controversial.

Okay...my bad. I just didn't have the full context. Media matters is a blog, you know...like this place, or Huffpo, or dkos, or Redstate...it never hurts to cross-check a story for validity. Sadly, we have to do that with a lot of our network news these days as well.

180 bratwurst  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:07:12am

re: #173 RogueOne

Did media matters not run phony limbaugh quotes since that's what we were talking about?

There were 2 or 3 quotes attributed to Limbaugh on MM and elsewhere that were dubious. Care to say anything about the verified quotes linked above?

181 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:07:15am

re: #179 darthstar

Okay...my bad. I just didn't have the full context. Media matters is a blog, you know...like this place, or Huffpo, or dkos, or Redstate...it never hurts to cross-check a story for validity. Sadly, we have to do that with a lot of our network news these days as well.

LGF is the fucking bomb when it comes for fact checking. TAKE THAT NYT!! Bitches.

182 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:07:43am

re: #176 RogueOne

No. I was discouraging people yesterday for taking a MediaMatters report at face value. I didn't realize that would be so controversial.

I think there were a few (3-4) unsourced quotes on their original list of 20 -30 quotes. Not a big deal. He's still a racist fuck.

183 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:08:30am

re: #180 bratwurst

There were 2 or 3 quotes attributed to Limbaugh on MM and elsewhere that were dubious. Care to say anything about the verified quotes linked above?

Care to stay on point?

I take it all back and I apologize. You can trust a partisan site that cuts up clips and posts them as "damaging news blurbs!" while simultaneously not trusting sites that do exactly the same thing with opposing partisanship. One mans partisan is another mans patriot so to speak. I'll try to be more open minded in the future.

184 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:08:55am

re: #182 Killgore Trout

I think there were a few (3-4) unsourced quotes on their original list of 20 -30 quotes. Not a big deal. He's still a racist fuck.

bolded for truth

185 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:10:25am

re: #183 RogueOne

Care to stay on point?
Goal post moving is not a lost art

186 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:12:10am

re: #185 sattv4u2

Care to stay on point?
Goal post moving is not a lost art

It's more like trying to keep everyone on the dance floor when they're all moving to whatever's playing on their iPod.

187 bratwurst  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:12:20am

re: #183 RogueOne

Care to stay on point?

I take it all back and I apologize. You can trust a partisan site that cuts up clips and posts them as "damaging news blurbs!" while simultaneously not trusting sites that do exactly the same thing with opposing partisanship. One mans partisan is another mans patriot so to speak. I'll try to be more open minded in the future.

Let's go back and read what you said yesterday:

I seem to remember that the worst of the rush comments were made up.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Now you have a list of obnoxious comments he definitely DID make and audio/video of each of them. Are you suggesting that MM dummied up each and every one of the many clips that Charles linked?

188 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:14:54am

re: #186 darthstar

It's more like trying to keep everyone on the dance floor when they're all moving to whatever's playing on their iPod.

Not really

Rogue made a point (that as of yet hasn't been disputed)

Instead of acknowledging he was correct and leaving it at that, it was expanded to include comments that WERE made (goal post moved). Rogue never stated that Rush didn't make racist comments, only that Media Matters DID attribute other comments to him

189 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:15:04am

Can't we all get along?

I was looking for the In Living Color clip but ran across this. Interesting. I'm not sure who Perceiving Reality is so if they turn out to be some weird cult it's not my fault.

190 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:17:58am

re: #189 RogueOne

Can't we all get along?

What fun would that be!?!?!?!
/

191 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:18:07am

Look at this racist headline!!
[Link: www.time.com...]

192 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:18:21am

re: #187 bratwurst

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Now you have a list of obnoxious comments he definitely DID make and audio/video of each of them. Are you suggesting that MM dummied up each and every one of the many clips that Charles linked?

No, I'm saying they put words in his mouth that never uttered by him. I'm saying last week someone posted another MM story about rush that turned out to be completely misleading. I'm saying they're no better than their counterparts. They're all slime and in the business to do nothing other than sling mud. It's one continual out of context flame war. I don't patronize sites like that but you're welcome to knock yourself out.

193 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:19:53am

re: #191 Cannadian Club Akbar

Look at this racist headline!!
[Link: www.time.com...]

Time magazine = right wing kooks!!!
//

194 bratwurst  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:20:42am

re: #188 sattv4u2

Not really

Rogue made a point (that as of yet hasn't been disputed)

Instead of acknowledging he was correct and leaving it at that, it was expanded to include comments that WERE made (goal post moved). Rogue never stated that Rush didn't make racist comments, only that Media Matters DID attribute other comments to him

Here was his point:

the worst of the rush comments were made up

I am disputing that. "Worst" is, of course, subjective. A few of the most blatantly racist quotes do not have supporting audio/video. This is correct, but these quotes were found several places...so attributing them to MM may not be accurate. In any case, I personally find that some of the verified quotes are just as racist as some of the disputable ones, so yes...I dispute his point.

195 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:22:35am

re: #194 bratwurst

Here was his point:

the worst of the rush comments were made up

I am disputing that

Then you should have just said that and left it at that, instead of coming up with a 'Gotchya,, see ,, Rush DID make racists comments"

Rogue never stated he (Rush) didn't!

196 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:24:17am

Funny, I'm looking for the "Barack the Magic Negro" written as an opinion piece by the LA Times and can't find it. Weird.

197 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:24:23am

re: #194 bratwurst

I am disputing that. "Worst" is, of course, subjective. A few of the most blatantly racist quotes do not have supporting audio/video. This is correct, but these quotes were found several places...so attributing them to MM may not be accurate. In any case, I personally find that some of the verified quotes are just as racist as some of the disputable ones, so yes...I dispute his point.

I agree... Rush makes racist comments. He has in the past and he probably will in the future.

Media Matters has made up or attributed phony statements to Rush. Agree?

(Crickets in 5,4,3,2,1... )

198 bratwurst  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:25:59am

re: #197 Walter L. Newton

I agree... Rush makes racist comments. He has in the past and he probably will in the future.

Media Matters has made up or attributed phony statements to Rush. Agree?

(Crickets in 5,4,3,2,1... )

I have stated here that there were approximately 3 racist quotes attributed to Rush on MM and elsewhere that are not verifiable. If you have crickets in your house, you should call an exterminator.

199 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:26:05am

re: #196 Cannadian Club Akbar

Funny, I'm looking for the "Barack the Magic Negro" written as an opinion piece by the LA Times and can't find it. Weird.

[Link: articles.latimes.com...]

200 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:26:11am

re: #187 bratwurst

Maybe the problem I'm having communicating this is because of Rush but I'm not talking about their take on him specifically. They do it to everybody, it's in their nature. Either you're on the other side of an issue or you aren't keeping with the correct dogma so therefore you're a target. We see it all the time on both sides of the aisle and yet somehow people get it in their head that they because they happen to agree with a political stance then it's ok to trust one of those sites as a source.

I don't go to newsbusters (I even had to look it up because I couldn't remember their name), I don't go to Media Matters, I don't go to Hot Air, and I don't go to DKos. We already know what slant they're going to take on an issue or a media personality. What the hell is the point?

201 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:26:46am

Racist!!! HAR!!
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

202 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:27:57am

re: #199 Stonemason

Thank you sir.

203 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:28:36am

re: #197 Walter L. Newton

I agree... Rush makes racist comments. He has in the past and he probably will in the future.

Media Matters has made up or attributed phony statements to Rush. Agree?

(Crickets in 5,4,3,2,1... )

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

204 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:28:55am

re: #202 Cannadian Club Akbar

I found it, then read it...holy crap...I thought the LA Times was left leaning, strange to find out they are actually tea party (before the tea party existed).

205 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:31:22am

It's driving Al crazy that Obama is as impressive and popular as he is, and he's not happy about it," a black Democratic activist was quoted as saying.

HEH!! Linky:
[Link: www.suntimes.com...]

206 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:31:23am

re: #198 bratwurst

approximately 3 racist quotes attributed to Rush on MM and elsewhere that are not verifiable.

You can't even bring yourself to say they were made up,, exaggerated,, taken out of context ,,,

"not verifiable"

207 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:34:17am

re: #198 bratwurst

If you know you're going to be spun before you even start watching or reading then why would you waste your time? Did we not already know what side of the HCR debate Ed Shultz and Sean Hannity were going to be on before it was even a consideration? I don't have that kind of patience so I just refuse to watch and/or give traffic.

208 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:35:03am

Nothing racist here. Move along.
[Link: opinion.latimes.com...]

209 bratwurst  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:36:34am

re: #206 sattv4u2

approximately 3 racist quotes attributed to Rush on MM and elsewhere that are not verifiable.

You can't even bring yourself to say they were made up,, exaggerated,, taken out of context ,,,

"not verifiable"

It is absolutely possible that they were indeed made up,, exaggerated,, taken out of context ,,,

Now can you bring yourself to say that it is possible (not likely but POSSIBLE) they were indeed accurate but made before his show was archived?

By the way, I don't have any great love of Media Matters. The truth is that I had never even heard of it until I came here about a year ago. Thanks LGF!

210 RadicalModerate  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:36:34am

re: #176 RogueOne

No. I was discouraging people yesterday for taking a MediaMatters report at face value. I didn't realize that would be so controversial.

That was my post regarding Limbaugh, where he stated that talk about secession and civil war "are not the rantings of extreme kookism" (his words) that you're still taking issue with .

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Please make a note that I link I provided includes the audio segment so you can judge for yourself whether the statement is accurate.

After you said not to trust the MM clip because "that partisan sites just might put edited clips out there that take things out of context", I replied to your accusation here:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

with this statement:

The clip is an unedited, self-contained segment. It begins with a call taken by Limbaugh, followed by his response in monologue form (no interaction with caller outside of opening part of segment). The only way this could have been edited is if sections were taken out mid-segment, and the flow of the clip indicates there are no gaps.

There was no Brietbart-style editing here - Here's the link to the transcript taken directly from Limbaugh's own site.

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]


CALLER: I'm calling because I don't know if the election is even going to solve the problems in this country. I'm very conservative, but I don't think... You know, look at what's happening in California. Let's say that most of the conservatives win reelection in midterm elections. They don't have to accept it. There will be other judges. I think it's already too far gone.

RUSH: Well, okay. If we're too far gone, then what are you going to do?

CALLER: I think the states may be be looking at secession, maybe another Civil War -- and tell you the truth, I'm ready for it because I'm so hopping mad.

RUSH: You know, this is --

CALLER: I'm mad every day.

RUSH: I know. You're mad.

CALLER: I'm mad at the --

RUSH: You are mad every day. Other people are depressed every day. Look at what people in this... This is a reasonable woman and she's talking about secession, Civil War! She's not alone, folks. This is not the rantings of extreme kookism anymore. Minorities do not... You know, if we give way to the minority every time, we got minority rule -- which is what we've got, by the way, and look where it's taking us. Minority rule. So, "The midterms aren't going to matter. We need a revolution. We need secession." She's mad. A lot of other people are mad. (interruption) Well, some might say the Civil War's already on, a nonviolent one with no arms that have been taken up, but some would say a Civil War's going on. Not started by us. If you're of the opinion that the Civil War is underway, it's been started by the American left years and years and years ago and is just now intensifying.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT

Wanna explain where Media Matters took his words out of context?

211 lostlakehiker  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:37:26am

re: #79 Obdicut

No, I know why you call me cheerleader. It's because you think there actually are 'teams'.

There aren't teams. Obama is not my guy. Obama is not doing much good at all about renewable energy, which is my main concern, health care, while a tiny first step, is still screwed, and the country is still full of unadressed, systemic problems. The finance reform won't do jack because it's not algorithmically evolutionary, and the markets are.

Yet somehow to you, because I say that the right-wing is currently crazier-- which it is-- you transform that into me being a cheerleader-- and you don't even notice the irony of that.

Media matters has distorted crap before and will distort stuff in the future. However, it is really easy to compare them to Breitbart and use common sense to see that Brietbart is far more extreme than they are, and far more damaging to the national discourse.

Except, for you, somehow the magical balance fairy means that the 'sides' are always equal.

Like I said, kinda cute.

Right on Breitbart vs MM, right on renewable energy, on finance reform, etc.

Unfortunately, Obamacare is no small step. Since the law hasn't gone into force yet, we can't be sure just how bad it'll be, but it's already added to the demoralization of business and consumer confidence.

212 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:41:13am

re: #211 lostlakehiker

As a small business owner, I wish that HCR was taking effect sooner.

And calling it "Obamacare" is silly.

Eventually, we will have to move to a public option at the least. Our system, even with HCR, is not sustainable.

213 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:41:29am

There is racism on both sides guys. Let's not pile it all on the right. Me, I'll tell ya to grab a beer. There are lawn chairs in the garage (grab your own, I'm not you mother) and we'll kick back. Then I will decide if I like you. And I don't care about skin color and all that. If you are an asshole, I might be able to figure it out.

214 bratwurst  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:42:12am

re: #213 Cannadian Club Akbar

There is racism on both sides guys. Let's not pile it all on the right. Me, I'll tell ya to grab a beer. There are lawn chairs in the garage (grab your own, I'm not you mother) and we'll kick back. Then I will decide if I like you. And I don't care about skin color and all that. If you are an asshole, I might be able to figure it out.

You had me at "grab a beer"!

215 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:42:54am

re: #210 RadicalModerate

After listening to the audio it sure seemed to me that he was talking about the callers, and a lot of his callers, point-of-view. I didn't here any calls for secession. Plus, we have no idea what was being talked about for the previous hour, or two, or possibly 3. If you want to believe that clip represents the entirety of his views, I'm not going to try to stop you. I don't know what his actual views are because I don't listen but I do know what MM does for a living and I'm unwilling to take their word for it. I don't really have the time or the inclination to listen to the whole show to decide if they're take is correct or not.

216 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:44:12am

re: #215 RogueOne

I made it almost all the way through without a grammatical error.

217 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:45:28am

If I want to start my morning off with a slow burn I go here:
[Link: twitter.com...]

But even though they don't do a lot of commentary they're still a very biased source. Take that into consideration.

218 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:46:11am

re: #210 RadicalModerate

This is when the crickets really come in...

219 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:46:14am

re: #217 RogueOne

BTW, the 4th story down is about where I went to HS.

220 3kids3dogs  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:47:18am

re: #213 Cannadian Club Akbar

There is racism on both sides guys. Let's not pile it all on the right. Me, I'll tell ya to grab a beer. There are lawn chairs in the garage (grab your own, I'm not you mother) and we'll kick back. Then I will decide if I like you. And I don't care about skin color and all that. If you are an asshole, I might be able to figure it out.

There is of course racism on both the left and the right but I don't see it in the links you posted. Could someone explain it to me?

221 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:49:14am

and I just learned something from the Injustice feed, there's a town named "cooter".

Former Cooter police officer accused of stealing from evidence room
[Link: www.kfvs12.com...]

222 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:50:58am

re: #209 bratwurst

Again, you're straying from the original point

You accused Rogue of defending Rush (which he didn't) because Rogue pointed out that MM less than accurate and honest in their reportage.
You even admitted that there were comments attributed to him that
weren't verifiable" because they (alledgedly) before the show was archived
Looks as if you're the one defending someone!

223 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:51:09am

re: #220 3kids3dogs

LA Times guy write a opinion piece called "Barak The Magic Negro" and not a sound. Rush turns it into a song and OUTRAGE!!
The other two are just funny because one hated Obama for running for President and the other talked about cutting off his nuts. But that is OK since both guys are black.

224 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:51:10am

Meanwhile, in Gaza....
Image: 610x.jpg

225 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:51:30am

re: #220 3kids3dogs

There is of course racism on both the left and the right but I don't see it in the links you posted. Could someone explain it to me?

It's quite simple. By saying both sides do it, you can ignore the possibility that your side is doing it...or at least dilute the negative attention your side is getting because of it. Whatever it happens to be (racism, sexism, ageism, theism, ismism...)

226 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:52:53am

re: #225 darthstar

It's quite simple. By saying both sides do it, you can ignore the possibility that your side is doing it...or at least dilute the negative attention your side is getting because of it. Whatever it happens to be (racism, sexism, ageism, theism, ismism...)

OR

if you constantly yell that the OTHER side is doing it you can ignore that your side is!

227 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:53:45am

re: #220 3kids3dogs

what kinda dogs, btw

(we have two, a Westie and a terrier/ mix)

228 Varek Raith  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:54:19am

re: #226 sattv4u2

OR

if you constantly yell that the OTHER side is doing it you can ignore that your side is!

OR
You yell about the other side yelling about you yelling at them for yelling at you!

229 3kids3dogs  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:54:26am

re: #223 Cannadian Club Akbar

LA Times guy write a opinion piece called "Barak The Magic Negro" and not a sound. Rush turns it into a song and OUTRAGE!!
The other two are just funny because one hated Obama for running for President and the other talked about cutting off his nuts. But that is OK since both guys are black.

I didn't see anything racist in the opinion piece. Can you explain to me what was racist in it?

I still don't understand what was racist about Sharpton being upset about Obama running or Jackson talking about cutting off Obama's nuts. Can you explain that as well?

230 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:54:38am

re: #228 Varek Raith

OR
You yell about the other side yelling about you yelling at them for yelling at you!

GET OFF MY LAWN!

231 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:54:44am

I can't be racist. I hate everyone.
//I actually do hate people in general.

232 bratwurst  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:55:25am

re: #222 sattv4u2

Again, you're straying from the original point

You accused Rogue of defending Rush (which he didn't) because Rogue pointed out that MM less than accurate and honest in their reportage.
You even admitted that there were comments attributed to him that
weren't verifiable" because they (alledgedly) before the show was archived
Looks as if you're the one defending someone!

I alleged nothing, I just presented a possibility. I also conceded that your explanation (that the quotes were completely fictional or totally out of context) might also be true.

Now are you going to grab a beer or not?

233 Varek Raith  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:55:26am

re: #230 sattv4u2

GET OFF MY LAWN!

YOUNG PEOPLE USE CURSE WORDS!

234 3kids3dogs  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:56:01am

re: #227 sattv4u2

what kinda dogs, btw

(we have two, a Westie and a terrier/ mix)

A shepherd/collie mix, a Golden Retriever and a Bichon/Yorkie mix.

BTW, my mother had a Westie that she just had to put down. He was about 17 years old.

235 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:56:43am

re: #229 3kids3dogs

I didn't see anything racist in the opinion piece. Can you explain to me what was racist in it?

I still don't understand what was racist about Sharpton being upset about Obama running or Jackson talking about cutting off Obama's nuts. Can you explain that as well?

I think that was either an attempt at sarcasm or an attempt to derail the discussion altogether.

236 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:57:20am

re: #229 3kids3dogs

I didn't see anything racist in the opinion piece. Can you explain to me what was racist in it?

I still don't understand what was racist about Sharpton being upset about Obama running or Jackson talking about cutting off Obama's nuts. Can you explain that as well?

I should have used sarc tags for the Sharpton/Jackson stuff. My bad. But "Barack the Magic Negro"? That is offensive.

237 prairiefire  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:57:21am

re: #167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Prayers for Kyle, FBV.

238 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:57:34am

re: #225 darthstar

It's quite simple. By saying both sides do it, you can ignore the possibility that your side is doing it...or at least dilute the negative attention your side is getting because of it. Whatever it happens to be (racism, sexism, ageism, theism, ismism...)

True but I wasn't even talking about racism or even secession. For all I know Limbaugh could have screamed out "It's time to take up arms becuase I hate minorities and fereigners!" but if he did it better come from source other than a noted partisan site.

239 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:57:58am

re: #233 Varek Raith

YOUNG PEOPLE USE CURSE WORDS!

Image: capslock.jpg

240 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:58:31am

re: #223 Cannadian Club Akbar

LA Times guy write a opinion piece called "Barak The Magic Negro" and not a sound. Rush turns it into a song and OUTRAGE!!
The other two are just funny because one hated Obama for running for President and the other talked about cutting off his nuts. But that is OK since both guys are black.

LOL, a writer quotes Spike Lee in a relevant analytical context and it's racism? Rush uses it as carte blanche to sing the word Negro like the smarmy, childish, negrophobic piece of worthless trash that his track record separately establishes, and he's misunderstood.

Awe, the poor little racist fuck got taken out of context, get your bitch ass over it.

241 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:59:05am

Wife and SiL have been out all morning. 2 minute warning before it's time to open the beer on my desk.

242 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:59:07am

re: #235 darthstar

I think that was either an attempt at sarcasm or an attempt to derail the discussion altogether.

Listen, mister. It wasn't an attempt. I'm quite funny.
//

243 Varek Raith  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:59:26am
244 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:59:48am

re: #240 goddamnedfrank

Way to miss the point.

245 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:59:49am

re: #234 3kids3dogs

A shepherd/collie mix, a Golden Retriever and a Bichon/Yorkie mix.

BTW, my mother had a Westie that she just had to put down. He was about 17 years old.

We had to put one down at 15 years old

The two we have now we took from a shelter. The mixed one we got about 3 years ago. At the time they stated he was 4-6 years old
The Westie we've had almost a year. They told us he was 1 1/2 -2 when we got him

246 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:59:51am

re: #238 RogueOne

True but I wasn't even talking about racism or even secession. For all I know Limbaugh could have screamed out "It's time to take up arms becuase I hate minorities and fereigners!" but if he did it better come from source other than a noted partisan site.

I get it. You don't like Media Matters, so you don't visit them or believe anything they have to say.

247 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 8:59:51am

Here's the problem with unemployment benefits... we are not marketing the concept correctly... I never realized how the British term unemployment benefits...

"Kevin Gaffney had to face up to a double setback on Friday. The 53-year-old, made redundant by the airline that employed him at London’s Heathrow airport, was obliged to sign on for jobseeker’s allowance for the first time."

It has such a nice pleasant sound to it... points out to the recipient what the real goal of the benefit is for...

In the current economy, it doesn't change jack shit, but it's still one of those calm sounding terms.

[Link: www.ft.com...]

248 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:00:22am

re: #243 Varek Raith

Image: lemnpcta.jpeg

That's the one I wanted.

249 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:01:05am

re: #242 Cannadian Club Akbar

Listen, mister. It wasn't an attempt. I'm quite funny.
//

Of course you are.

250 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:01:07am

re: #242 Cannadian Club Akbar

Listen, mister. It wasn't an attempt. I'm quite funny.
//

Yeah ,, but looks aren't everything!

/

251 3kids3dogs  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:02:08am

re: #236 Cannadian Club Akbar

I should have used sarc tags for the Sharpton/Jackson stuff. My bad. But "Barack the Magic Negro"? That is offensive.

OK, simple misunderstanding on my part regarding the Shartpon/Jackson links.

I don't find the other offensive. I think the magic negro thing is something used in movies/tv and is annoying. In regards to it use with Obama, I look at it similar to his being called the messiah. Would you agree that there is nothing racist about the opinion piece other than the headline (which I find questionable)?

252 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:02:08am

re: #246 darthstar

I get it. You don't like Media Matters, so you don't visit them or believe anything they have to say.

How about, I take everything with a massive grain of salt or I am a hopeless cynic. I like to believe in the worst in people because they keep proving I'm right.

253 darthstar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:03:25am

re: #252 RogueOne

How about, I take everything with a massive grain of salt or I am a hopeless cynic. I like to believe in the worst in people because they keep proving I'm right.

Well, I try to believe in the best in people, so I suppose we cancel each other out. ;)

Time to get my ass moving for a while...play nice, everyone.

254 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:03:27am

re: #250 sattv4u2

Yeah ,, but looks aren't everything!

/

Look. It was a tragic acid mishap. (and by that I mean I was actually on acid and walked into a 6 foot blond who didn't want me there)
/better not forget my tag!!

255 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:04:39am

re: #251 3kids3dogs

If the left says Negro, it is OK. IF the right says it, it is offensive. That is kinda my point.

256 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:04:46am

re: #246 darthstar

I get it. You don't like Media Matters, so you don't visit them or believe anything they have to say.

No... that's the the reason at all. If conservatives have Fox, then someone has to own Media Matters... it's just a matter of being fair and balanced... really Darthstar, the is plenty of biased media outlets to go around... accept one.

257 3kids3dogs  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:05:38am

re: #245 sattv4u2

We had to put one down at 15 years old

The two we have now we took from a shelter. The mixed one we got about 3 years ago. At the time they stated he was 4-6 years old
The Westie we've had almost a year. They told us he was 1 1/2 -2 when we got him

Our shepherd/collie mix came from the ASPCA shelter and she's about 11 or 12. We got the goldie from a breeder about 7 years ago. The little one is only about a year old. We got him from a friend.

258 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:07:01am

re: #256 Walter L. Newton

No... that's the the reason at all. If conservatives have Fox, then someone has to own Media Matters... it's just a matter of being fair and balanced... really Darthstar, the is plenty of biased media outlets to go around... accept one.

"but nobody on the left cares what Media Matters says and the left doesn't accept as truth everything MM says and follows everything they say!"

(I have to go wash my hands after typing that!!)

259 RadicalModerate  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:07:13am

One thing I immediately noticed about that story about Media Matters taking a quote out of context.

When they were called on it, they owned up to the inaccurate story and retracted, and apologized for the headline.

When Limbaugh, Breitbart, FoxNews get called out for the same thing?

Ignore, deflect, accuse the accuser of "bias" , and double down on the rhetoric.

260 3kids3dogs  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:08:51am

re: #255 Cannadian Club Akbar

If the left says Negro, it is OK. IF the right says it, it is offensive. That is kinda my point.

I think context matters. The phrase "magic negro" used the way it was by the opinion piece to be not offensive. I never listened to Rush's use so I don't have a firm opinion about that but given his other excesses I probably would.

261 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:08:51am

re: #257 3kids3dogs

Our shepherd/collie mix came from the ASPCA shelter and she's about 11 or 12. We got the goldie from a breeder about 7 years ago. The little one is only about a year old. We got him from a friend.

great!

After we had to put down our Westie at 15 years (who we had since he was 3 months old) my wife swore we would never get another dog. None could ever take the place of "her baby"

6 years later, we now have the two PLUS have "fostered" at least 5 others till they were adopted!

262 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:08:57am

re: #259 RadicalModerate

One thing I immediately noticed about that story about Media Matters taking a quote out of context.

When they were called on it, they owned up to the inaccurate story and retracted, and apologized for the headline.

When Limbaugh, Breitbart, FoxNews get called out for the same thing?

Ignore, deflect, accuse the accuser of "bias" , and double down on the rhetoric.

Which is why we need to be smart consumers. But not all are smart. Filter the bullshit. On both sides. (I personally don't read MM)

263 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:11:34am

Good news:

As posted by Thanos in pages, the cruel fanatic Todd Tiarht (R-Back Alley) has lost the Kansas GOP senate primary to Rep Jerry Moran.

264 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:12:05am

re: #259 RadicalModerate

One thing I immediately noticed about that story about Media Matters taking a quote out of context.

When they were called on it, they owned up to the inaccurate story and retracted, and apologized for the headline.

When Limbaugh, Breitbart, FoxNews get called out for the same thing?

Ignore, deflect, accuse the accuser of "bias" , and double down on the rhetoric.

Yup,, FOX never apologizes !!

[Link: gawker.com...]
[Link: www.prnewschannel.com...]
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

265 bratwurst  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:12:27am

re: #259 RadicalModerate

One thing I immediately noticed about that story about Media Matters taking a quote out of context.

When they were called on it, they owned up to the inaccurate story and retracted, and apologized for the headline.

When Limbaugh, Breitbart, FoxNews get called out for the same thing?

Ignore, deflect, accuse the accuser of "bias" , and double down on the rhetoric.

Instead of apologizing for falling for the Obama thesis hoax last year, Rush called it "fake, but accurate".

[Link: washingtonindependent.com...]

266 3kids3dogs  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:12:54am

re: #261 sattv4u2

great!

After we had to put down our Westie at 15 years (who we had since he was 3 months old) my wife swore we would never get another dog. None could ever take the place of "her baby"

6 years later, we now have the two PLUS have "fostered" at least 5 others till they were adopted!

I love dogs and can hardly imagine living without at least one. My wife was more of a cat person and we've had a few of them over the years. In fact, one cat lived through the first 19 years of our marriage. I think I've converted her because she no longer bugs me for one (our last cat died about two years ago and is buried in our backyard pet cemetary).

267 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:13:44am

re: #255 Cannadian Club Akbar

If the left says Negro, it is OK. IF the right says it, it is offensive. That is kinda my point.

It's a bullshit point. If one person is using the word in it's established cinema studies role, and another person uses it to sell hatred of blacks, or a specific black person, it's different. What the fuck is wrong with you that you find intent irrelevant?

268 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:14:44am

re: #265 bratwurst

The GREATEST April's Fool joke was played by this President. When he said if a company takes a bailout, they could't race in NASCAR. Fucking people were going nuts!! I laughed.

269 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:15:55am

re: #259 RadicalModerate

One thing I immediately noticed about that story about Media Matters taking a quote out of context.

When they were called on it, they owned up to the inaccurate story and retracted, and apologized for the headline.

When Limbaugh, Breitbart, FoxNews get called out for the same thing?

Ignore, deflect, accuse the accuser of "bias" , and double down on the rhetoric.

I didn't ignore or deflect and I even mentioned the retraction. Doubling down on the rhetoric is the root of the problem. Until people stop paying attention to the flame war it won't go away. I was trying to give MM some credit by pointing out they aren't the only ones guilty of excessive partisanship.

270 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:16:27am

re: #267 goddamnedfrank

If you don't know there is media bias, it cool. I'll just chalk it up to stoopid. And we're good.

271 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:18:42am

re: #267 goddamnedfrank

It's a bullshit point. If one person is using the word in it's established cinema studies role, and another person uses it to sell hatred of blacks, or a specific black person, it's different. What the fuck is wrong with you that you find intent irrelevant?


What was Jesse Jacksons "intent"? Do you find that "irrelevant"
(and can you have a discussion without asking "what the fuck is wrong with someone" ,, or telling them to "get ((their)) bitch ass over it"?)

272 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:19:52am

re: #270 Cannadian Club Akbar

If you don't know there is media bias, it cool. I'll just chalk it up to stoopid. And we're good.

That wasn't the point, you're dodging now, weakly and pathetically. Just answer the question, why is intent irrelevant? Rush was using the world to spread hate, and racial division, over and over. Trying to plant camouflage for him through false equivalence is a bullshit strategy, and should be beneath you.

273 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:22:45am

I'm not trying to come across as a holier-than-thou moderate here but I don't believe that normal cable news stories are even close to reality on a regular basis. Their entire job is not to give you the straight scoop but to get you to read/watch their shit. Why do you think Beck cries, because he cares? Puh-lease. They all swing one way or the other but some swing a lot further out there and I think MM is one of those sites. Not a huge deal really.

274 bratwurst  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:22:51am

The 10 Worst Places to Live in the US

[Link: www.comcast.net...]

275 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:23:16am

re: #272 goddamnedfrank

No. You missed the point. A guy writes an article using the word Negro and someone uses their words against them. See now? I know what the fuck context means. But you lefties only use it when it is convenient for you. (and I don't mean all lefties)

276 prairiefire  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:23:19am

re: #251 3kids3dogs

I agree, I don't like the "Magic Negro' theme used in movies and plays. "The Green Mile" and "The Legend Of Bagger Vance" come to mind, A selfless, wise, saintly black person teaches wider acceptance and other types of wisdom to the white people around him.
I also don't like misogynistic James Bond movies, but they are all part of the general culture.

277 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:24:38am

Ahmadinejad said "9/11 was exaggerated"

I think we should put him into a small room with some of the family members of the 9/11 victims and have him say that.

And completely off-topic, but I'm playing Final Fantasy VIII, and I just got to the Funniest Cutscene in the game.

278 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:24:54am

re: #274 bratwurst

The 10 Worst Places to Live in the US

[Link: www.comcast.net...]

Gary doesn't even make the list? Outrageous.

279 bratwurst  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:26:29am

re: #278 RogueOne

Gary doesn't even make the list? Outrageous.

Yeah, having a small town as #1 seemed like a bit of a cop-out to me too.

280 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:26:49am

re: #278 RogueOne

Gary doesn't even make the list? Outrageous.

Phoenix: Come here, get kidnapped
And don't tell Hoops about the OKC ranking!!!
//

281 3kids3dogs  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:27:20am

re: #276 prairiefire

I agree, I don't like the "Magic Negro' theme used in movies and plays. "The Green Mile" and "The Legend Of Bagger Vance" come to mind, A selfless, wise, saintly black person teaches wider acceptance and other types of wisdom to the white people around him.
I also don't like misogynistic James Bond movies, but they are all part of the general culture.

It didn't bother me in "The Green Mile" but it annoyed me so much in "The Legend of Bagger Vance" so much that I've never watched the entire movie. After about 45 minutes or so I had to shut it off.

282 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:28:36am

re: #274 bratwurst

The 10 Worst Places to Live in the US

[Link: www.comcast.net...]

No bias in THAT report

City # 7,,, Phoenix ,, WHY!?!?!

"The (Arizona illegal immigration) law would allow police officers to stop anyone who looks like they may be an illegal immigrant"

ummm,,, errr ,,, no it doesn't!

283 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:29:06am

re: #280 Cannadian Club Akbar

Phoenix: Come here, get kidnapped
And don't tell Hoops about the OKC ranking!!!
//

I liked phoenix, they just need a different Sheriff. I like AZ in general but then I don't have to be concerned with being profiled.

284 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:29:15am

re: #278 RogueOne

Gary doesn't even make the list? Outrageous.

No Lubbock either. Maybe they regard it as a halfway house or a storage complex rather than a city.

285 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:30:34am

If I'm gonna make my city hit the top 10 I need to make more crack.
//

286 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:30:57am

re: #282 sattv4u2

No bias in THAT report

City # 7,,, Phoenix ,, WHY!?!?!

"The (Arizona illegal immigration) law would allow police officers to stop anyone who looks like they may be an illegal immigrant"

ummm,,, errr ,,, no it doesn't!

And the Rico laws and the patriot act will only be used against gangsters and terrorists......

287 MJ  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:33:27am

Tony Judt, Author and Intellectual, Is Dead

[Link: artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com...]

288 Bear  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:34:27am

I thought a cell phone worked.
//


[Link: www.adn.com...]

289 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:34:41am

re: #287 MJ

Tony Judt, Author and Intellectual, Is Dead

[Link: artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com...]

Peace be upon him.

290 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:35:10am

re: #275 Cannadian Club Akbar

No. You missed the point. A guy writes an article using the word Negro and someone uses their words against them. See now? I know what the fuck context means. But you lefties only use it when it is convenient for you. (and I don't mean all lefties)

Rush wasn't using the word Negro against Ehrenstein, or throwing it back at him, he was directing it's use against Obama, repeatedly, childishly, tauntingly like the racist fuck that he is. Ehrenstein and the L.A. Times were just convenient cover. That's the context you slithering turd.

291 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:35:40am

re: #75 RogueOne

Yeah, Media Matters should have used the whole recording, but this is not even close to being as serious and egregious as what Breitbart did.

This kind of "you do it too" argument is ridiculously tedious.

292 tnguitarist  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:36:32am

re: #274 bratwurst

The 10 Worst Places to Live in the US

[Link: www.comcast.net...]

I would add Buffalo to that list. Lived there for a while. Miserable.

293 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:36:54am

re: #290 goddamnedfrank

Rush wasn't using the word Negro against Ehrenstein, or throwing it back at him, he was directing it's use against Obama, repeatedly, childishly, tauntingly like the racist fuck that he is. Ehrenstein and the L.A. Times were just convenient cover. That's the context you slithering turd.

I pray that was aimed at Rush, and not at CCC

294 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:37:10am

re: #290 goddamnedfrank

Rush wasn't using the word Negro against Ehrenstein, or throwing it back at him, he was directing it's use against Obama, repeatedly, childishly, tauntingly like the racist fuck that he is. Ehrenstein and the L.A. Times were just convenient cover. That's the context you slithering turd.

I didn't defend Rush. I just pointed out one one side says is the other sides Albatross. And I'm not a turd.
/

295 Gus  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:40:53am

Heh. Using the Media Matters quotes of Rush Limbaugh to criticize Media Matters. Classic. Rush Limbaugh, the epitome of everything that's gone wrong with the conservative movement including the Republican party that has to bow to his presence and apologize if they stray of the Limbaugh cult narrative.

Might want to find something else on Media Matters other than what they said about that blithering anti-intellectual blowhard.

296 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:41:09am

re: #294 Cannadian Club Akbar

I didn't defend Rush. I just pointed out one one side says is the other sides Albatross. And I'm not a turd.
/

What one side says is the other sides Albatross.
/Man, I fucked that up

297 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:42:34am

re: #291 Charles

Yeah, Media Matters should have used the whole recording, but this is not even close to being as serious and egregious as what Breitbart did.

This kind of "you do it too" argument is ridiculously tedious.

I didn't suggest it was as bad as the Sherrod incident only that they have a history and a goal that has be taken into consideration. I don't really believe anyone is unbiased but there are some sites I don't believe you can take at face value.

298 Ericus58  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:44:28am

re: #282 sattv4u2

No bias in THAT report

City # 7,,, Phoenix ,, WHY!?!?!

"The (Arizona illegal immigration) law would allow police officers to stop anyone who looks like they may be an illegal immigrant"

ummm,,, errr ,,, no it doesn't!

They could have just left out that entire first paragraph and their case would have been valid on the other points.

Just another slant/opinion piece.

299 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:45:45am

re: #297 RogueOne

I didn't suggest it was as bad as the Sherrod incident only that they have a history and a goal that has be taken into consideration. I don't really believe anyone is unbiased but there are some sites I don't believe you can take at face value.

The rather HUGE difference here is that when it was pointed out, Media Matters owned up to it and publicly apologized.

300 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:46:58am

re: #298 Ericus58

They could have just left out that entire first paragraph and their case would have been valid on the other points.

Just another slant/opinion piece.

Agreed
They could have, but they just couldn't help themselves

301 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:48:48am

re: #282 sattv4u2

No bias in THAT report

City # 7,,, Phoenix ,, WHY!?!?!

"The (Arizona illegal immigration) law would allow police officers to stop anyone who looks like they may be an illegal immigrant"

ummm,,, errr ,,, no it doesn't!

Actually, yes, it does -- no matter how much they try to argue otherwise. In practice, police officers will HAVE TO use profiling to determine who gets detained.

302 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:50:18am

re: #301 Charles

Actually, yes, it does -- no matter how much they try to argue otherwise. In practice, police officers will HAVE TO use profiling to determine who gets detained.

But only after a crime of traffic offense? Correct?

303 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:51:24am

re: #301 Charles

Actually, yes, it does -- no matter how much they try to argue otherwise. In practice, police officers will HAVE TO use profiling to determine who gets detained.

They'll have to use witnessing and/or the accusation of the commission of another crime 1st.

The article stated that "the law would allow police officers to stop anyone who looks like they may be an illegal immigrant"

thats the part I commented on

304 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:51:36am

re: #302 Cannadian Club Akbar

But only after a crime of traffic offense? Correct?

Yes, that's the cover story.

305 RadicalModerate  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:52:10am

I follow Media Matters primarily because of David Brock's work, because in many ways his journey away from what is defined today as mainstream conservatism parallel those of our own Mr. Johnson.

For those of you who don't recognize the name, he was one of the SoCon media's favorite footsoldiers during the 1990s, until he got fed up with the sleaze factor dominating the publications, as well as militant anti-gay sentiments espoused.

He wrote a book in 2002 called "Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex-Conservative" that I think should be required reading by anyone wanting to see how the inner workings of places like the Washington Times or American Spectator shape the right-wing mindset.

306 webevintage  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:53:08am

What arguing about Rush again?
Come on, everyone knows he does not really mean what he says.
It is all just a joke.
Sarcasm.
His wit is just so dry that most folks do not get it.
Only a very few, a special few can see what Rush is really talking about.
/


I know that there are supposed to be 2 sides to every argument but sometimes there is just bullshit on one and the truth on the other. I'll take my chances with the truth from MM any day over Rush and Beck and swill like Breitbart.

307 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:53:10am

re: #299 Charles

The rather HUGE difference here is that when it was pointed out, Media Matters owned up to it and publicly apologized.

which I did point out.

308 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:53:22am

SB1070 is a very bad law, written and promoted by very bad people.

309 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:53:45am

re: #304 Charles

Yes, that's the cover story.

We have a guy running for Gubner here that wants the same law. His name is Rick Scott. He is on MyListTM.

310 Achilles Tang  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:54:26am

Changing the subject from serious to pitiful;

Gunmen killed five Iraqi policemen in an overnight shootout that lasted until dawn at a suspected bomb workshop in western Baghdad, security officials have said.

In the Baghdad shootings, police who trailed suspects to a house in the mostly Sunni neighborhood of Saidiya came under fire from an unknown number of gunmen.

The shooting lasted for hours until dawn, when the gunmen slipped away through a rear entrance, according to two Baghdad police officers and an interior ministry official.

311 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:54:45am

re: #302 Cannadian Club Akbar

But only after a crime of traffic offense? Correct?

like a bad license plate light or DWL (driving while Latino)

312 Gus  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:54:49am

re: #304 Charles

Yes, that's the cover story.

As written all it takes is reasonable "reasonable suspicion" which is one of the thing Susan Bolton "put on hold":

Among the provisions U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton put on hold are the "reasonable suspicion" section that would allow police to arrest and detain suspected illegal immigrants without a warrant and a provision making it illegal for undocumented day laborers to solicit or perform work.

313 webevintage  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:55:14am

re: #309 Cannadian Club Akbar

We have a guy running for Gubner here that wants the same law. His name is Rick Scott. He is on MyListTM.

Isn't Scott some kind of white collar criminal?

314 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:56:19am

re: #313 webevintage

Isn't Scott some kind of white collar criminal?

Yes. Very much. He took about 300 million from medicare. Want me to find a link?

315 Gus  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:56:24am
re: #312 Gus 802

As written all it takes is reasonable "reasonable suspicion" which is one of the thing Susan Bolton "put on hold":

PIMF

316 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:57:23am

re: #314 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yes. Very much. He took about 300 million from medicare. Want me to find a link?

[Link: www2.tbo.com...]

317 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 9:59:00am

re: #316 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: www2.tbo.com...]

I have my ballot. He ain't getting nothing from me. Douche.

318 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:00:53am

re: #317 Cannadian Club Akbar

btw ,,,, sent you an e-mail following the discussion we had

319 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:01:11am

re: #317 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have my ballot. He ain't getting nothing from me. Douche.

can you get more !?!?!?

//

320 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:01:11am

This is what we've come to:

Utah polygamists star in reality TV show
[Link: www.sltrib.com...]
The makers of the hit television reality show “Jon & Kate Plus 8” are producing a new series that easily could be called “Kody & Meri & Janelle & Robyn Plus 15.”


“Sister Wives,” a seven-episode series on the TLC network, is the first reality show that follows a polygamous family. The show profiles Kody Brown and his three sister wives, a group of fundamentalist Mormons in Utah (the family does not want to reveal the city it live in).


We are all officially headed to hell.

321 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:01:24am

re: #318 sattv4u2

btw ,,, sent you an e-mail following the discussion we had

K. Will check.

322 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:02:14am

re: #320 RogueOne

We are all officially headed to hell

I call dibs on the recliner and TV remote

323 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:02:17am

re: #319 sattv4u2

can you get more !?!?!?

//

No. I'm not a dead person in Chicago are Seattle.
//

324 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:03:01am

re: #323 Cannadian Club Akbar

No. I'm not a dead person in Chicago are Seattle.
//

Or=are. I suck today.

325 webevintage  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:04:51am

re: #314 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yes. Very much. He took about 300 million from medicare. Want me to find a link?

That's what I thought, I knew the name.
Amazing he is not in prison.

326 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:05:18am
327 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:07:29am
328 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:07:30am

re: #326 Cannadian Club Akbar

Douchefuckingbag

Yeah, the opponents of healthcare reform lost me a long time ago. I just don't take them seriously anymore.

329 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:08:51am

re: #328 Killgore Trout

Yeah, the opponents of healthcare reform lost me a long time ago. I just don't take them seriously anymore.

Were you being serious? Me think know.

330 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:09:58am

Sorry KT. Got a bit lost looking stuff up. My bad.

331 Gus  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:10:29am

re: #326 Cannadian Club Akbar

Douchefuckingbag

Glad this is coming back up to the surface again. Rick Scott is a sleaze bag of the highest degree. I'm surprised he's not in jail.

332 RogueOne  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:13:04am

Pizza is here! Enjoy the rest of the day folks.

333 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:13:53am

re: #332 RogueOne

Pizza is here! Enjoy the rest of the day folks.

Can't we enjoy your pizza instead?

334 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:14:00am

re: #331 Gus 802

Glad this is coming back up to the surface again. Rick Scott is a sleaze bag of the highest degree. I'm surprised he's not in jail.

I think I hate this guy. But Bill McCullom ain't showing me nothing. I might vote for Alex Sink. The Democrat!! (I am such a righty!!)

335 webevintage  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:15:20am

re: #334 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think I hate this guy. But Bill McCullom ain't showing me nothing. I might vote for Alex Sink. The Democrat!! (I am such a righty!!)

Has FL not had its primariy yet or are their 3 candidates?

336 Ericus58  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:16:11am

National Breastfeeding Month: Whip 'Em Out!

337 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:18:02am

re: #335 webevintage

Has FL not had its primariy yet or are their 3 candidates?

Primaries are on the 24th (I think) I do absentee so I'm good. 2 running under R and Alex Sink running under Dem. Want my predication? Marco Rubio for Senate. McCullom for Gubner.

338 Ericus58  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:19:29am

Epic Fail.....

Reporter Destroys Ice Sculpture

What really got me was the reactions from the last two reporters ......

339 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:21:17am

re: #338 Ericus58

OGM. If that real I would be PISSED!!

340 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:21:38am

re: #338 Ericus58

Epic Fail...

Reporter Destroys Ice Sculpture


[Video]What really got me was the reactions from the last two reporters ...

Why does the male anchor have a ferret on his head?

Oh ,, wait ,, thats his HAIR!!!

341 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:28:18am

Satt, responded. Heh.

342 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:30:03am

I just took a look at Hot Air's thread about Michelle Obama's vacation, and the comments are freaking unreal. Racist comments everywhere.

343 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:32:05am

re: #342 Charles

I just took a look at Hot Air's thread about Michelle Obama's vacation, and the comments are freaking unreal. Racist comments everywhere.

And we are shocked why? Fuck those idiots.

344 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:33:12am

My tolerance, while still high, has gone down for douchebags.

345 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:34:03am

It's going to be a bitch getting out of my neighborhood to get to work in a half hour. Three Dog Night is playing right don the road from here at the Conifer Mountain Music Festival. If I was home this afternoon and not working, I could hear them just by sitting on my back porch.

This event gets out about 7:00pm, and I bet we get slammed at the supermarket later.

346 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:35:22am

re: #345 Walter L. Newton

It's going to be a bitch getting out of my neighborhood to get to work in a half hour. Three Dog Night is playing right don the road from here at the Conifer Mountain Music Festival. If I was home this afternoon and not working, I could hear them just by sitting on my back porch.

This event gets out about 7:00pm, and I bet we get slammed at the supermarket later.

Munchie. Expect a run on Little Debbie's and Dorito's.

347 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:36:16am

re: #342 Charles

I just took a look at Hot Air's thread about Michelle Obama's vacation, and the comments are freaking unreal. Racist comments everywhere.

I saw some of it last night. I can't bring myself to look again this morning.

348 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:37:19am
I see that none of you have spoken to many blacks about this. This is going over big time in the black community. The black people I know are telling me they think, “you go girl, keep on spending the white man’s money”. They feel that Michelle is sticking it to the man and she should just keep spending and spending since it isn’t their money, it is the government’s money and the man never paid reparations. So they think it is great that she and Obama are taking trips and vacations They are getting satisfaction living through what Obama and Michelle are doing.
Say what you want but consider the truth. This is helping Obama big time in the black community.

pwb on August 7, 2010 at 12:30 PM


Good god.

349 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:39:27am

re: #346 Cannadian Club Akbar

Munchie. Expect a run on Little Debbie's and Dorito's.

You bet. The event runs all day, about 20 acts, ending up with Three Dog Night... the only reason it gets out at 7:00pm is that this road out here is a windy 2 lane country road, and no street lights... it would be a bitch trying to get all the cars out to the 4 lane interstate after dark. And the entrance to Beaver Ranch (the venue) is a small dirt road.

350 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:41:39am

re: #349 Walter L. Newton

I used to get really stoned and drink Root Beer with Chocolate Mini Doughnuts. Nothing better.

351 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:43:03am

re: #350 Cannadian Club Akbar

I used to get really stoned and drink Root Beer with Chocolate Mini Doughnuts. Nothing better.

You'd have to be stoned to eat/drink a combination like that.

352 Randall Gross  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:43:12am

any phpmyadmin gurus out there? I got my blog recovered, but now the picture content is all pointed to the wrong place.... I need to mass remove one segment of the path in about 1500 posts..
it needs to change from "noblesseoblige.org/public_html/wordpress/content/....." to "noblesseoblige.org/public_html/content/,...." is there a bulk search and replace way to do this?

353 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:44:23am

re: #349 Walter L. Newton

The event runs all day, about 20 acts, ending up with Three Dog Night

Followed by Three Bottles Of Geritol and a rousing game of Bingo and Shuffleboard!!
/

354 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:44:37am

re: #352 Thanos

Umm, check Godaddy? (I am an idiot, BTW)

355 BishopX  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:44:39am

re: #350 Cannadian Club Akbar

That sounds really good actually.

356 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:44:48am

re: #352 Thanos

any phpmyadmin gurus out there? I got my blog recovered, but now the picture content is all pointed to the wrong place... I need to mass remove one segment of the path in about 1500 posts..
it needs to change from "noblesseoblige.org/public_html/wordpress/content /..." to "noblesseoblige.org/public_html/content/,..." is there a bulk search and replace way to do this?

Nope... I only do Thorazine.

357 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:45:00am

re: #353 sattv4u2

The event runs all day, about 20 acts, ending up with Three Dog Night

Followed by Three Bottles Of Geritol and a rousing game of Bingo and Shuffleboard!!
/

is dick clark the MC?

358 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:45:11am

re: #353 sattv4u2

The event runs all day, about 20 acts, ending up with Three Dog Night

Followed by Three Bottles Of Geritol and a rousing game of Bingo and Shuffleboard!!
/

And the Hokey Pokey!!!

359 Randall Gross  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:45:38am

re: #351 Walter L. Newton

You'd have to be stoned to eat/drink a combination like that.

A very wise man once told me "Never eat a baco-burger on reds."

360 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:45:45am

re: #358 Cannadian Club Akbar

And the Hokey Pokey!!!

At that age, if you put your left foot in you may not be able to get it out!

361 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:47:05am

My youngest son is going to see John Mayer tonight at an outdoor show with some of his friends ....

362 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:47:05am

re: #360 sattv4u2

At that age, if you put your left foot in you may not be able to get it out!

After all the event is at Beaver Ranch.

363 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:47:30am

re: #355 BishopX

That sounds really good actually.

New York Seltzer (blueberry) and Powered doughtnut do good too.

364 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:48:03am

re: #362 Walter L. Newton

After all the event is at Beaver Ranch.

[Link: www.funderwear.com.au...]

365 webevintage  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:48:31am

re: #348 Killgore Trout

Good god.

I won't go look but does anyone ever point to reality in the comments (Obama's are paying for the trip themselves) or do they all just get worked into a froth about this fantasy they are created?
(I probably know the answer)

I love the whole OMG!!!!Black Woman on Nice Vcacation....how dare she!

366 cliffster  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:49:36am

I had no plans of commenting until the topic of stoned food came up. Jack In The Box. Tacos. 2/$1.00. Used to go up and order 50 tacos. Literally. Can I have lots of sauce with that, please? No, I mean lots of sauce. Lots. I can only imagine what those jokers at the drive thru window were thinking. "That'll be me in 3 hours.." probably.

367 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:49:56am

re: #341 Cannadian Club Akbar

Satt, responded. Heh.

tag ,, you're 'it"!

368 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:50:20am

re: #365 webevintage

I won't go look but does anyone ever point to reality in the comments (Obama's are paying for the trip themselves) or do they all just get worked into a froth about this fantasy they are created?
(I probably know the answer)

I love the whole OMG!!!Black Woman on Nice Vcacation...how dare she!

I have no idea the cost of the vacation, who's paying or how is stacks up with previous administrations' family vacations. I'm not even curious enough to look into it.

369 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:51:02am

re: #366 cliffster

I had no plans of commenting until the topic of stoned food came up. Jack In The Box. Tacos. 2/$1.00. Used to go up and order 50 tacos. Literally. Can I have lots of sauce with that, please? No, I mean lots of sauce. Lots. I can only imagine what those jokers at the drive thru window were thinking. "That'll be me in 3 hours.." probably.

note to self ,,, do NOT go into the bathroom after Cliff has been in there

370 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:51:05am

re: #338 Ericus58

Epic Fail...

Reporter Destroys Ice Sculpture


[Video]What really got me was the reactions from the last two reporters ...

No biggie. Reporters have been known to destroy whole countries and laugh about it.

371 webevintage  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:51:38am

Newt sent out one of his "New Statements" on Prop 8 and the sanctity of marriage.
No one seems to moderate the comments so they are kind of awesome in regards to Newt's own hypocricy when it comes to marriage and sanctity.
[Link: www.newt.org...]

372 cliffster  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:52:30am

re: #365 webevintage

I used to get a little irritated by the vacations presidents went on, then I looked into it and saw that they pay for it themselves, along with the food they have every day, the chef that's kept on staff, etc etc. Surprising how much comes out of the Prez's own pockets. Not a gig that usually falls in the lap of people who can't afford it, to be sure. But it's a real blow to people who want to get all worked up about the prez spending taxpayers money on his little trips. Keep trying, guys, there's plenty of other things things the potus's blow our money on.. let's keep it real.

373 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:52:49am

re: #367 sattv4u2

tag ,, you're 'it"!

Tag.

374 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:52:50am

re: #368 Killgore Trout

I have no idea the cost of the vacation, who's paying or how is stacks up with previous administrations' family vacations. I'm not even curious enough to look into it.

the vacation costs what it costs. She can do what she wants to do, but there may be plenty of people looking at her with the stink eye because she is taking the vacation abroad at a time when domestic vacation spots can use the business. I hope she has a good time, but as a public figure she should expect the slings and arrows.

375 Varek Raith  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:52:57am

re: #371 webevintage

Newt sent out one of his "New Statements" on Prop 8 and the sanctity of marriage.
No one seems to moderate the comments so they are kind of awesome in regards to Newt's own hypocricy when it comes to marriage and sanctity.
[Link: www.newt.org...]

Lol.
Hetero couples have done far more damage to the 'sanctity of marriage' than any gay couple could ever, ever do.

376 cliffster  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:53:57am

re: #369 sattv4u2

note to self ,,, do NOT go into the bathroom after Cliff has been in there

Yeah, no shit. (tee hee)

377 Varek Raith  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:54:58am

re: #374 _RememberTonyC

the vacation costs what it costs. She can do what she wants to do, but there may be plenty of people looking at her with the stink eye because she is taking the vacation abroad at a time when domestic vacation spots can use the business. I hope she has a good time, but as a public figure she should expect the slings and arrows.

It's kinda funny.
To get worked up over the Obama's vacationing abroad while cheering companies that outsource abroad...
Hmmm....

378 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:55:27am

re: #352 Thanos

any phpmyadmin gurus out there? I got my blog recovered, but now the picture content is all pointed to the wrong place... I need to mass remove one segment of the path in about 1500 posts..
it needs to change from "noblesseoblige.org/public_html/wordpress/content /..." to "noblesseoblige.org/public_html/content/,..." is there a bulk search and replace way to do this?

I don't think there's a phpMyAdmin feature for that, but you can easily do it with a MySQL query. Here's a blog post that explains it:

[Link: www.barrywise.com...]

379 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:55:29am

re: #377 Varek Raith

It's kinda funny.
To get worked up over the Obama's vacationing abroad while cheering companies that outsource abroad...
Hmmm...

You mean like Apple?

380 Ericus58  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:57:02am

re: #379 Walter L. Newton

You mean like Apple?

oh SNAP!
LOL

381 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:57:48am

re: #377 Varek Raith

It's kinda funny.
To get worked up over the Obama's vacationing abroad while cheering companies that outsource abroad...
Hmmm...

people judge well known public figures more closely (and harshly) because they can relate to planning a vacation. in judging a company's motives for its business practices, most of us see that as a decision made by some corporate committee as opposed to a single family planning where to spend their money. Human nature and all that ...

382 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:57:51am

No one here will ever get me to say a bad thing against another. No one here will get me to say a bad thing about Charles. And if you think you can, challenge me. I'll eat your fucking lunch.

383 Varek Raith  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:58:22am

re: #382 Cannadian Club Akbar

No one here will ever get me to say a bad thing against another. No one here will get me to say a bad thing about Charles. And if you think you can, challenge me. I'll eat your fucking lunch.

Your mother's a hamster!

384 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:59:05am

re: #383 Varek Raith

Your mother's a hamster!

You're not a real Sith.
/

385 webevintage  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:59:15am

re: #374 _RememberTonyC

the vacation costs what it costs. She can do what she wants to do, but there may be plenty of people looking at her with the stink eye because she is taking the vacation abroad at a time when domestic vacation spots can use the business. I hope she has a good time, but as a public figure she should expect the slings and arrows.

Those folks who are bothered by it would be bothered no matter what. If she sat in the WH all summer they would bitch that they were wasting A/C by being at the WH instead of on vacation somewhere.

I have a feeling that Michelle ignores the morons...I know I would.

386 Ericus58  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 10:59:55am

re: #382 Cannadian Club Akbar

No one here will ever get me to say a bad thing against another. No one here will get me to say a bad thing about Charles. And if you think you can, challenge me. I'll eat your fucking lunch.

... passes his tuna sandwich over to CCA....

"It's cool..... it's cool. I wasn't that hungry anyways...."

387 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:00:01am

Not sure if there are any Harness Race fans here (hell ,, if there are any ANYWHERE anymore) but The Hambletonian starts in about an hour


PLACE YOUR BETS !

388 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:00:55am

re: #386 Ericus58

... passes his tuna sandwich over to CCA...

"It's cool... it's cool. I wasn't that hungry anyways..."

re: #387 sattv4u2

Not sure if there are any Harness Race fans here (hell ,, if there are any ANYWHERE anymore) but The Hambletonian starts in about an hour

PLACE YOUR BETS !

I'll take Tuna in race 6.
/

389 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:01:05am

re: #387 sattv4u2

Not sure if there are any Harness Race fans here (hell ,, if there are any ANYWHERE anymore) but The Hambletonian starts in about an hour


PLACE YOUR BETS !

2 bucks on Seabuscuit to win .... 2 bucks on Secretariat to place .... and 2 bucks on Affirmed to show.

390 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:01:12am

re: #386 Ericus58

... passes his tuna sandwich over to CCA...

"It's cool... it's cool. I wasn't that hungry anyways..."

Don't forget the bag of chips you have hiding in your pocket!

391 Ericus58  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:01:33am

re: #388 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'll take Tuna in race 6.
/

hahahahaha

392 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:02:03am

re: #390 sattv4u2

Don't forget the bag of chips you have hiding in your pocket!

If those are Salt and Vinegars I will be so pissed.

393 Ericus58  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:02:24am

re: #390 sattv4u2

Don't forget the bag of chips you have hiding in your pocket!

er..... I already ate those.....

*slips away from desk*

394 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:02:30am

re: #388 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'll take Tuna in race 6.
/

why does is always have to be about RACE?

395 cliffster  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:02:30am

re: #377 Varek Raith

It's kinda funny.
To get worked up over the Obama's vacationing abroad while cheering companies that outsource abroad...
Hmmm...

Companies outsourcing abroad is usually a good thing, because it often makes American companies more efficient and competitive. Not always; see software development as a negative case. Whine about your 401K going down, whine about jobs being outsourced, can't have it both ways. Competitive Advantage is a point rarely questioned in the world of economics.

On the other hand, if Obama is vacationing, especially in another country, he's probably not signing yet another stupid Democrat bill into law, so that's also a good thing. Enjoy, Mr and Mrs Obama, you deserve the rest for all the stupid shit you take. Please, stay a little longer.

396 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:03:20am

re: #394 _RememberTonyC

why does is always have to be about RACE?

Tunas don't race

They're too busy being in SCHOOL!!!

397 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:03:51am

re: #394 _RememberTonyC

why does is always have to be about RACE?

I know, right? Albacore, blue fin...
/

398 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:04:21am

re: #395 cliffster

Companies outsourcing abroad is usually a good thing, because it often makes American companies more efficient and competitive

It makes them have to compete with places that have no worker protections in place and use abusive practices against labor.

Whine about your 401K going down, whine about jobs being outsourced, can't have it both ways.

We could not outsource jobs to places that treat workers like tools to be used until they break.

399 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:06:24am

re: #397 Cannadian Club Akbar

I know, right? Albacore, blue fin...
/

Charlie!

400 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:06:38am

re: #396 sattv4u2

Tunas don't race

They're too busy being in SCHOOL!!!

"I don't want a tuna with good taste, I want a tuna that tastes good"

~Charlie Tuna circa 1970

401 cliffster  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:06:41am

re: #398 Obdicut

It makes them have to compete with places that have no worker protections in place and use abusive practices against labor.

Sucks, doesn't it? Either way, though, the competition will be doing it. Those practices will be going on whether we outsource there or not.

402 Ericus58  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:07:05am

re: #395 cliffster

Jackson Browne - The Load Out / Stay - Live 1978

403 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:07:33am

off to work i go .... later peeps

404 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:07:53am

re: #401 cliffster

Sucks, doesn't it? Either way, though, the competition will be doing it. Those practices will be going on whether we outsource there or not.

Sure. You can say that about anything.

But the reason they have a competitive advantage is due to human rights violations, and we ought to recognize that and penalize companies that export work to them.

We have enormous power to influence human rights that we barely use.

405 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:07:58am

To work...

406 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:08:33am

re: #400 _RememberTonyC

"I don't want a tuna with good taste, I want a tuna that tastes good"

~Charlie Tuna circa 1970

If you have a can thats that old, I'd advise against making a sammich!

407 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:09:56am

Off to bathe. Or whatever.

408 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:11:36am

re: #407 Cannadian Club Akbar

Off to bathe. Or whatever.

Make sure you scrub your whatever real good

You never know. You might get into a car accident!!

409 cliffster  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:12:49am

re: #402 Ericus58

I love that performance. Thanks for posting it!

410 Randall Gross  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:13:25am

re: #378 Charles

Thanks!

411 Ericus58  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:16:51am

re: #409 cliffster

I love that performance. Thanks for posting it!

indeed - even now listening brings back some good times.
I love that gal's voice....

412 Randall Gross  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 11:26:19am

re: #378 Charles

Wow, it worked great:

1998 row(s) affected. ( Query took 24.7236 sec )

all pics are back, thanks kindly for pointing me to the exact right place, you are beyond uber, you are da hoobah!

413 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 7, 2010 12:38:40pm

re: #412 Thanos

Wow, it worked great:

1998 row(s) affected. ( Query took 24.7236 sec )

all pics are back, thanks kindly for pointing me to the exact right place, you are beyond uber, you are da hoobah!

I knew about the REPLACE command because I've used that type of query a couple of times on LGF's entries table.


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