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We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works.
— Douglas Adams
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Aug 27, 2010 10:21:00pm |
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 27, 2010 10:21:04pm |
re: #1 Walter L. Newton
I’m not gone yet!
I will be soon. Kinda slow tonight. Where did everyone go?
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elizajane Fri, Aug 27, 2010 10:24:22pm |
I was hoping for some piercingly intelligent conversation here to keep me awake while my children finished watching a mindless romantic comedy in the other room, but perhaps I should just give in and join them…
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Cato the Elder Fri, Aug 27, 2010 10:31:11pm |
Funny, I’m just now rereading “The Pillars of the Earth”, after watching the miniseries on Netflix Instant.
Example of technology that works: cathedrals. Tom Builder knows how to construct one, inside his head, and make it new and better and different (with pointy arches instead of round), and figure the number of workers, and the amount of time to completion of the building, inside his head.
All for the glory of God and man. And woman, and child, and dog.
Technology that works, courtesy of the horrible old Middle Ages.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Aug 27, 2010 10:32:50pm |
re: #2 Dark_Falcon
How’s work going?
Work is going. In some strange way, I’m really into this new blue-collar phase of my life. I’ve done a little of so many things, this is like full circle, since the first job I had was at 14 as a bagger in a supermarket in Northern New Jersey (yes, they allow a 14 year old to work, at least in Jersey, in the 60’s).
And considering how fucked up the economy is right now, it’s nice to be working with people who are most effected by this economy. I learn a lot from them, and I gain a lot of respect that I may thought I have had in the past, but this makes it even more real.
And over all, since the occasional programming project from Kaiser puts a little extra in my pocket and the fact that I can still keep the brain cells clicking (programming for me is a mind fuck, almost euphoric in nature), that part helps my need for challenges.
And then, my current foray into jewelry making cover the artistic side of me, since I’m not actively doing any theatre work or working on any scripts. And the few bucks I make off on one from selling something through my online store, or one of the local shops here in the mountains that sell my stuff, that helps financially too.
Is it to much to say I’m comfortable, in ways money wouldn’t satisfy right now?
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Aug 27, 2010 10:38:37pm |
Aw shit…this isn’t something I wanted to read before I go to bed.
Administration halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber
The Obama administration has shelved the planned prosecution of Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, the alleged coordinator of the Oct. 2000 suicide attack on the USS Cole in Yemen, according to a court filing.
The decision at least temporarily scuttles what was supposed to be the signature trial of a major al-Qaeda figure under a reformed system of military commissions. And it comes practically on the eve of the 10th anniversary of the attack, which killed 17 sailors and wounded dozens when a boat packed with explosives ripped a hole in the side of the warship in the port of Aden.
In a filing this week in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, the Justice Department said that “no charges are either pending or contemplated with respect to al-Nashiri in the near future.”
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Aug 27, 2010 10:38:37pm |
re: #6 Walter L. Newton
Work is going. In some strange way, I’m really into this new blue-collar phase of my life. I’ve done a little of so many things, this is like full circle, since the first job I had was at 14 as a bagger in a supermarket in Northern New Jersey (yes, they allow a 14 year old to work, at least in Jersey, in the 60’s).
And considering how fucked up the economy is right now, it’s nice to be working with people who are most effected by this economy. I learn a lot from them, and I gain a lot of respect that I may thought I have had in the past, but this makes it even more real.
And over all, since the occasional programming project from Kaiser puts a little extra in my pocket and the fact that I can still keep the brain cells clicking (programming for me is a mind fuck, almost euphoric in nature), that part helps my need for challenges.
And then, my current foray into jewelry making cover the artistic side of me, since I’m not actively doing any theatre work or working on any scripts. And the few bucks I make off on one from selling something through my online store, or one of the local shops here in the mountains that sell my stuff, that helps financially too.
Is it to much to say I’m comfortable, in ways money wouldn’t satisfy right now?
No, its not too much to say. I feel much the same way about my new job. Selling over the phone has taken a lot of getting used to, but I’m actually better at it so far than I am at retail sales. I’m meeting quotas and my manager is satisfied with me. And that feels good, actually feeling like I’m gaining ground for once instead of falling behind.
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tnguitarist Fri, Aug 27, 2010 11:06:14pm |
Old news, but I like the bit about pre-selected questions.
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Nervous Norvous Fri, Aug 27, 2010 11:32:56pm |
re: #11 tnguitarist
Old news, but I like the bit about pre-selected questions.
We Don like no surprises you betcha
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Cato the Elder Fri, Aug 27, 2010 11:43:56pm |
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I Am Kreniigh! Fri, Aug 27, 2010 11:50:15pm |
Totally jazzed — Glenn is going to Save Our Country today! WOo!
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Cato the Elder Fri, Aug 27, 2010 11:56:54pm |
re: #14 Kreniigh
Totally jazzed — Glenn is going to Save Our Country today! WOo!
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The Restorauntisation of Honor!
Restaurateurs all around D.C. couldn’t be more thrilled.
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tnguitarist Fri, Aug 27, 2010 11:57:36pm |
re: #15 Cato the Elder
The Restorauntisation of Honor!
Restaurateurs all around D.C. couldn’t be more thrilled.
Especially the buffets.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 28, 2010 12:02:09am |
re: #13 Cato the Elder
Whore.
ElBruce: Sawah Pawin is a money whore. What other kind is there?
Seventy-five thousand dollars plus travel reimtwatment plus telling you in advance what she will and will not do is expensive for a call-grrrl, but she’s still a whore.
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tnguitarist Sat, Aug 28, 2010 12:06:03am |
re: #17 Cato the Elder
ElBruce: Sawah Pawin is a money whore. What other kind is there?
Seventy-five thousand dollars plus travel reimtwatment plus telling you in advance what she will and will not do is expensive for a call-grrrl, but she’s still a whore.
There’s a word I’m looking for to describe how I feel about her. Disdain doesn’t seem to encompass quite enough. Help me out here……
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Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 28, 2010 12:10:33am |
re: #18 tnguitarist
There’s a word I’m looking for to describe how I feel about her. Disdain doesn’t seem to encompass quite enough. Help me out here…
Contumely?
It’s from Shakespeare.
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tnguitarist Sat, Aug 28, 2010 12:14:07am |
re: #19 Cato the Elder
Contumely?
It’s from Shakespeare.
Needs more teeth. That sounds too pleasant rolling off the tongue. Although, it is very fitting.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 28, 2010 12:16:28am |
re: #20 tnguitarist
Needs more teeth. That sounds too pleasant rolling off the tongue. Although, it is very fitting.
How about plain old “scorn”?
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elbruce Sat, Aug 28, 2010 12:17:35am |
IMO, money whoredom is the least of her sins. There are lots of “media whores.” But getting paid to intentionally try to divide and destroy America is worse.
I just have to compulsively downding such a single-word insult post, because it doesn’t really help. In fact, it just plays into her manufactured victim complex.
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tnguitarist Sat, Aug 28, 2010 12:17:41am |
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Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 28, 2010 12:20:03am |
re: #22 elbruce
IMO, money whoredom is the least of her sins. There are lots of “media whores.” But getting paid to intentionally try to divide and destroy America is worse.
I just have to compulsively downding such a single-word insult post, because it doesn’t really help. In fact, it just plays into her manufactured victim complex.
I’m sure she’ll keep on keepin’ on.
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tnguitarist Sat, Aug 28, 2010 12:23:43am |
Dumbin’ it down tonight. Gonna pass out to “Fast Times at Ridgemont High”.
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ClaudeMonet Sat, Aug 28, 2010 1:07:20am |
re: #19 Cato the Elder
Contumely?
It’s from Shakespeare.
That’s a good one. I enjoy hitting people with Shakespearean terms—clearly English, but to the deserving recipient, usually unknown. and if something Shakespearean doesn’t come to mind, something obscure but still in English will do.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Aug 28, 2010 1:17:22am |
Sarah compared her wordcraftsmanship with Shakespeare, why not?
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Steve Sat, Aug 28, 2010 3:35:01am |
Obama: I think you ought to know I’m feeling very depressed.
Pelosi: Well, we have something that may take your mind off it.
Obama: It won’t work, I have an exceptionally large mind.
Pelosi: Yeah, we know.
My apologizes to Marvin and Trillian
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Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Aug 28, 2010 3:50:21am |
I was underway the other day and saw a telephone sanitizer out doing his job, cleaning a public telephone booth, and was immediately reminded of Douglas Adams.
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RogueOne Sat, Aug 28, 2010 4:44:23am |
NRA decides not to endorse Reid:
[Link: www.politico.com…]
The NRA announced Friday that its political action wing will not be endorse the Nevada Democrat in his uphill battle to keep his seat, and cited both of President Barack Obama’s Supreme Court nominees — and Reid’s support of the president — as its chief concern.
I’m certain that the planned revolt of its membership played no role in this decision.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:00:48am |
He hoped and prayed that there wasn’t an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn’t an afterlife.
-Douglas Adams
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:04:51am |
Monomania strikes again:
Eighth suspect sought in alleged homegrown terror plotOTTAWA — There are now eight suspects in a massive police probe into an alleged terror plot to bomb the Parliament buildings, the Ottawa Citizen has learned.
An early Friday arrest had raised the number of people in an alleged Ottawa terror cell to seven.
But the Citizen has learned the team carrying out the investigation, known as Project Samossa, has now identified an eighth conspirator in the homegrown terrorist bomb plot against the country’s seat of government and coalition troops in Afghanistan.
[Link: www.nationalpost.com…]
Bah, this is minor bullshit, let’s talk about something more important./
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:07:00am |
re: #33 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
He hoped and prayed that there wasn’t an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn’t an afterlife.
-Douglas Adams
BIG GOD WITH NO AFTERLIFE IS RIPPING US OFF!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:20:33am |
Ghost hunter looking for ‘ghost train’ hit and killed by real train.
Part of me is sad for this man and his family. But most of me is laughing my ass off!
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RogueOne Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:21:15am |
re: #34 Spare O’Lake
Totally unrelated:
New York terror trial likely to revolve around confidential informant
[Link: www.csmonitor.com…]
I have a major problem with the use of confidential informants. It seems that 1/2 the time it’s the informant that’s doing the dirty work and the pushing that gets the charges ramped up to a federal case. In this instance it seems the defense is going to have a few problems making that argument:
Attacks against the informant, who has yet to be identified, may be the only defense for the four men. On May 19, 2009, the government arrested James Cromitie, David Williams, Onta Williams, and Laguerre Payen as they arrived outside a synagogue in the Bronx, allegedly with two improvised explosive devices (IED). According to the indictment, on May 6 the men had purchased the IEDs – which had been disabled by the FBI in advance – as well as a surface-to-air missile, also made inoperable by the FBI. As the men approached the synagogue, the FBI and New York Police Department rolled a tractor-trailer across the road to impede their escape.“In an instance where the defendant is literally caught red-handed, often the defense strategy is to suggest some form of entrapment,” says Robert Mintz, a former federal prosecutor who is now head of white-collar and government investigations in Newark, N.J., at McCarter & English, a law firm.
When you’re caught red-handed with the bombs outside the place you’ve been talking about blowing up….you’re kinda screwed.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:27:43am |
re: #37 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ghost hunter looking for ‘ghost train’ hit and killed by real train.
Part of me is sad for this man and his family. But most of me is laughing my ass off!
I wonder what his last words were.
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RogueOne Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:30:10am |
re: #39 Spare O’Lake
I wonder what his last words were.
Not sure, but the last thing that went through his mind was his nose.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:36:14am |
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:36:30am |
re: #40 RogueOne
Not sure, but the last thing that went through his mind was his nose.
1. I hear the train a’comin, It’s comin’ ‘round the bend…
2. Good mornin’ America, how are ya…
3. BOO!
4. Oh fuck me blue!
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RogueOne Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:38:40am |
Kevin Drum admits the obvious, liberals are statists:
[Link: motherjones.com…]
When it’s all said and done, if we lived in Drum World I figure combined government expenditures would be 40-45% of GDP and the funding source for all that would be strongly progressive. “Statist” is an obviously provocative (and usually puerile) way to frame this, but really, it’s not all that far off the mark.
“puerile” because it hurts to admit you’re a tool of the state.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:38:59am |
Here is an example of why I don’t really like Charlie Crist. And good morning all.
[Link: thehill.com…]
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:41:53am |
re: #44 Cannadian Club Akbar
Here is an example of why I don’t really like Charlie Crist. And good morning all.
[Link: thehill.com…]
Hahaha…he would’ve supported it before he would’ve opposed it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:42:00am |
re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I went obscure there…
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Varek Raith Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:42:36am |
re: #34 Spare O’Lake
I agree.
This is far more important!
Paris Hilton arrested in Las Vegas on charges of possessing cocaine, police say.
Sorry about being an ass the other day.
:/
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:44:54am |
re: #47 Varek Raith
I agree.
This is far more important!Sorry about being an ass
the otherEVERY day.
:/
FTFY.
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Varek Raith Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:45:33am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:47:26am |
re: #49 Varek Raith
What can I say, I’m a natural born jerk.
:)
I saw a bumper sticker once that read “All men are idiots and I married their King”. Funny.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:49:34am |
re: #50 Cannadian Club Akbar
I saw a bumper sticker once that read “All men are idiots and I married their King”. Funny.
Mean woman.
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Varek Raith Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:49:47am |
Man takes bullet to head, finds it five years later
HERNE, Germany (KFSN) — It took a man in Germany five years to realize he was walking around with a bullet lodged in his head.
Robert Chojecki, 35, is recovering from surgery to remove it.Police say he was hit by the stray 22-caliber bullet during a New Year’s Eve celebration.
Chojecki says he thought he had bumped his head or was hurt by a firecracker.
He says he began to get headaches a year ago, and only went to the doctor recently.
Since the bullet had not penetrated his skull, doctors say it was not life-threatening and that he could have gone a few more years without having it removed.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:50:02am |
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Varek Raith Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:50:38am |
re: #53 Cannadian Club Akbar
You must know her.
/
I don’t know you.
Nope never heard of ya.
*hides in bunker*
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:53:01am |
re: #47 Varek Raith
I agree.
This is far more important!
Sorry about being an ass the other day.
:/
No problem, thanks for that. Quite frankly I have become resigned to the fact that my views on the radical Islamist threat will very often be met with resentment and hostility. Just look at the “Bottom Comments”…it’s become brutal around here.
Good thing I have a thick skull skin, eh?
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Winny Spencer Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:58:52am |
Afternoon Lizards.
One hour to go before America’s honor is restored!
Aren’t you guys excited?!?!?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 5:59:27am |
I swear if it rains again today I am gonna curl up in the fetal position, suck my thumb and cry myself to sleep.
/
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:00:26am |
re: #56 Winny Spencer
Afternoon Lizards.
One hour to go before America’s honor is restored!
Aren’t you guys excited?!?!?
Obama’s resigning?
/rimshot!!
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:01:04am |
Gotta’ take The Kid to practice. This really befuddles me. He’s in elementary school but practice has been giong on for SIX WEEKS. Yeah, 10-year-old kids. No fucking Super Bowl ring in sight. But, they practice about 15 hours a week. Twenty boys whose parents lay out about $500.00 for this. Three months.
Gah. I’m in a pissy mood. Gotta’ put on some clothes and drive.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:06:33am |
[Link: www.cbsnews.com…]
This is what I find ironic about this story. Al Sharpton says Glenn Beck is hijacking the civil rights movement, but Al made a career out of it. (I don’t care about the rally, and care even less about Al)
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Spare O'Lake Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:06:36am |
re: #59 MandyManners
Gotta’ take The Kid to practice. This really befuddles me. He’s in elementary school but practice has been giong on for SIX WEEKS. Yeah, 10-year-old kids. No fucking Super Bowl ring in sight. But, they practice about 15 hours a week. Twenty boys whose parents lay out about $500.00 for this. Three months.
Gah. I’m in a pissy mood. Gotta’ put on some clothes and drive.
Wow, that is quite a serious commitment to a recreational activity!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:07:31am |
re: #61 Spare O’Lake
Wow, that is quite a serious commitment to a recreational activity!
Right? Why start driving with clothes on now?
//
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Winny Spencer Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:08:15am |
re: #60 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yep, both hucksters in it for the dough.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:13:06am |
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Varek Raith Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:17:19am |
re: #64 Cannadian Club Akbar
The light at the end of the tunnel is the headlamp of an oncoming train.
BBL
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:20:35am |
Crap. I passed 17,000 in number of comments and didn’t even realize it. And I was gonna make a cake. Oh, well. Guess it can wait until 18,000.
/
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:23:53am |
re: #55 Spare O’Lake
It’s not your views on Radical Islam that are met with hostility.
It’s your views on moderate Islam.
It’s also your habit of being incredibly and childishly insulting.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:26:05am |
For those who like the Fallout series, and are looking forward to New Vegas, an….interesting piece of news has come out.
[Link: www.escapistmagazine.com…]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:27:21am |
A local technical skool has a culinary program. Well, the buy new stuff each semester and sell the old stuff. I got a 3’ x 2’ cutting board for $3. Score.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:29:13am |
re: #69 ProLifeLiberal
see, that’s the wicked writing that the original Fallout games had, and the Bethesda game (as great as it was!) sorta lacked
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:30:39am |
re: #69 ProLifeLiberal
though I’m looking more forward to Subversion than any other game at this point
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Decatur Deb Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:31:39am |
re: #59 MandyManners
Gotta’ take The Kid to practice. This really befuddles me. He’s in elementary school but practice has been giong on for SIX WEEKS. Yeah, 10-year-old kids. No fucking Super Bowl ring in sight. But, they practice about 15 hours a week. Twenty boys whose parents lay out about $500.00 for this. Three months.
Gah. I’m in a pissy mood. Gotta’ put on some clothes and drive.
Morning—That football effort might be OK, but I’d be talking to a pediatrician/orthopedist or two about ways it could go bad. Look for statistics pro and con, not opinions.
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Winny Spencer Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:35:00am |
re: #71 WindUpBird
I never played Fallout 3, even though I really liked the original two games. I genuinely detest Bethesda’s “sandbox” type of game world which are essentially devoid of any real content and in which choices have no meaningful consequences.
I hate Bethesda.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:46:07am |
Think I am gonna make chicken pot pie soup today. It kinda rules.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:50:18am |
re: #76 Cannadian Club Akbar
Think I am gonna make chicken pot pie soup today. It kinda rules.
With a cheese tortellini salad.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:51:25am |
On an old thread from yesterday -
People are still telling me that what I saw with my own eyes before, during & after Katrina, is not true.
WTF is wrong with people? Is the BDS really that deep? It’s amazing.
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reine.de.tout Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:52:16am |
Oh, and good morning all.
Not gonna stick around, I’m so pissed off I’m likely to say something I’ll be very sorry for.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:52:31am |
re: #78 reine.de.tout
On an old thread from yesterday -
People are still telling me that what I saw with my own eyes before, during & after Katrina, is not true.WTF is wrong with people? Is the BDS really that deep? It’s amazing.
The thing on NatGeo the other night moved me to tears. Was powerful.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:53:15am |
re: #78 reine.de.tout
On an old thread from yesterday -
People are still telling me that what I saw with my own eyes before, during & after Katrina, is not true.WTF is wrong with people? Is the BDS really that deep? It’s amazing.
Who said this?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:53:21am |
re: #78 reine.de.tout
Yes, dear. It is very, very deep.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:54:12am |
I’ll set some mother fuckers straight. I’ve been moody.
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:55:00am |
re: #73 Cannadian Club Akbar
Geek thread!!!
Good morning. Here let me help with that.
I’ve been out in the morning all week in this glorious late summer weather splitting some maple for fire wood. Maple splits pretty easy if there are no knots and I’m feeling rhythmic and not spastic. Anyway, I got to the bottom of this one pile of logs and there are a couple of ash logs I scavenged from the guy across the street. He said they’d been in his backyard for a couple of years and since they didn’t appear to be dry rotted (they are heavy!), I hauled them over to my place.
So I go out this morning, and start in on the ash. Hit it once with my maul and it makes a dent about 1/8”. Wow. Hit it in the same place again. And again. And again. And again till I am out of breath and ready to throw the maul through the shed door. It’s like fucking concrete. So I get a nice sharp wedge and hit it with a 4 pound sledge to get it started. No luck. Not going in any further. Not like concrete. Like steel.
My forearms and shoulders hurt. Ash is amazing wood. I think it wins.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:55:46am |
re: #78 reine.de.tout
On an old thread from yesterday -
People are still telling me that what I saw with my own eyes before, during & after Katrina, is not true.WTF is wrong with people? Is the BDS really that deep? It’s amazing.
Morning Reine
Calmness,,,,, calmness,,,,, find an inner peace
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:55:56am |
re: #61 Spare O’Lake
Wow, that is quite a serious commitment to a recreational activity!
It’s not a sport. It’s a RELIGION.
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:56:10am |
re: #78 reine.de.tout
On an old thread from yesterday -
People are still telling me that what I saw with my own eyes before, during & after Katrina, is not true.WTF is wrong with people? Is the BDS really that deep? It’s amazing.
I find you a breath of fresh air. Thanks for being here.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:57:31am |
re: #84 Jeff In Ohio
I used to swing a 12 pounder when changing out pins an a Cat Ho. Thanks for bringing this thread back.:)
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Decatur Deb Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:57:49am |
re: #84 Jeff In Ohio
Good morning. Here let me help with that.
I’ve been out in the morning all week in this glorious late summer weather splitting some maple for fire wood. Maple splits pretty easy if there are no knots and I’m feeling rhythmic and not spastic. Anyway, I got to the bottom of this one pile of logs and there are a couple of ash logs I scavenged from the guy across the street. He said they’d been in his backyard for a couple of years and since they didn’t appear to be dry rotted (they are heavy!), I hauled them over to my place.
So I go out this morning, and start in on the ash. Hit it once with my maul and it makes a dent about 1/8”. Wow. Hit it in the same place again. And again. And again. And again till I am out of breath and ready to throw the maul through the shed door. It’s like fucking concrete. So I get a nice sharp wedge and hit it with a 4 pound sledge to get it started. No luck. Not going in any further. Not like concrete. Like steel.
My forearms and shoulders hurt. Ash is amazing wood. I think it wins.
Bandsaw, salmon, planks, grill.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:57:54am |
re: #74 Decatur Deb
Morning—That football effort might be OK, but I’d be talking to a pediatrician/orthopedist or two about ways it could go bad. Look for statistics pro and con, not opinions.
Got that covered three ways from Sunday. His pediatrician is all for it. His five kids go to school there. All three boys play/have played.
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:58:02am |
re: #88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You could make… a bat?…
Maybe when it was fresh. I’m thinking a couple of outdoor tables. I think ash is my new god.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:58:05am |
re: #78 reine.de.tout
So, you say you saw President Bush, Dick Cheney and Carl Rove blowing up the levees? And no one believed you?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:58:16am |
re: #88 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You could make… a bat?…
or an anchor
or a Druid statue
(someone comes upon Jeffs place 400 years from now and tries to guess WTF he was trying to worship!)
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:58:36am |
re: #78 reine.de.tout
On an old thread from yesterday -
People are still telling me that what I saw with my own eyes before, during & after Katrina, is not true.WTF is wrong with people? Is the BDS really that deep? It’s amazing.
Yes, BDS is that deep. And, it’s still with us.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:58:57am |
re: #91 MandyManners
Got that covered three ways from Sunday. His pediatrician is all for it. His five kids go to school there. All three boys play/have played.
Cool enough, falls under “parental due diligence”.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:59:14am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:59:19am |
re: #91 MandyManners
I am a hundred percent behind it. Teaches kids to focus and they can use that lesson on other things in life.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 6:59:56am |
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:00:08am |
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:02:22am |
re: #97 Decatur Deb
Cool enough, falls under “parental due diligence”.
Believe me, as much as I piss, bitch and moan, I’m all over this situation.
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:02:34am |
re: #89 Cannadian Club Akbar
I used to swing a 12 pounder when changing out pins an a Cat Ho. Thanks for bringing this thread back.:)
Um, your forearms must be large. 12 pounds ia a big hammer. I worked on the Lavonia & Lakeville Railroad in upstate NY in between college, I think those were 8 pound sledges we used to drive spikes. Man that was hard work.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:02:48am |
If Reine is gonna wake up the entire crew she should be responsible for making the eggs. And sausage. And bacon. And pancakes for FBV. And I would like a biscuit.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:03:16am |
re: #101 Jeff In Ohio
Hollow the top with a
chain sawshaped charge and make a birdbath.
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:04:15am |
re: #104 Cannadian Club Akbar
If Reine is gonna wake up the entire crew she should be responsible for making the eggs. And sausage. And bacon. And pancakes for FBV. And I would like a biscuit.
I’d like a hard fired egg and sausage between to pancakes. I settled for yogurt, kashi (FBV fave!) and peaches.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:04:33am |
re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am a hundred percent behind it. Teaches kids to focus and they can use that lesson on other things in life.
And, it’s taught him how to get the shit knocked out of him and not whimper. It useta’ be that if he got a boo-boo at home, he’d have an utter melt-down. *cue violins*
Now, he just shrugs it off. And, walkis on.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:05:47am |
re: #106 Jeff In Ohio
I’d like a hard fired egg and sausage between to pancakes. I settled for yogurt, kashi (FBV fave!) and peaches.
What kind of animal do peaches come from?
/
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:06:27am |
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:06:59am |
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:07:18am |
And, I’ll stomp the snot out of the next person who says UTK is gonna’ have a bad year.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:07:19am |
re: #107 MandyManners
Lesson one… what does not kill me makes me stronger…
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:07:37am |
re: #78 reine.de.tout
Well, I’m very sympathetic to that, and very grateful that you’ve told your story, Reine. I do wish people would listen to it more.
But you’ve got to understand that anecdotal evidence— which is what you’re presenting— is generally not regarded as the final word on the subject. I know that you are also, in a way, an expert, having been a state employee, a long-time resident, and knowing a great deal about the city.
But that doesn’t mean that anyone who doesn’t immediately trust your version to be not only 100% accurate but 100% complete is suffering from “BDS”. Clearly, one of the biggest problems in people’s minds— I’m not saying this is a problem that actually had an effect, but was very visible— was that “Brownie” was clearly a patronage appointee with no actual experience or expertise. That the folks at FEMA in general managed just fine during the disaster without any guidance from the director is, I think, true. Red tape still did exist, of course— see [Link: www.usatoday.com…] which I was reminded me in terms of the Coast Guard inspection of ships helping out with the oil spill.
However, the disaster at Katrina did not end with the actual physical devastation. There was also, afterwards, the question of the evacuees long-term, and I did not, and still do not, feel that FEMA did a good job in handling that, or the federal government in general.
If you haven’t read it, here’s the Appleseed report on that subject. It is, I feel, quite fair, making the point that local governmental entities and non-profits will always be more effective than federal assistance, and that waiting for the feds is the wrong move. However, it has plenty of criticism for the federal role after the immediate disaster.
[Link: www.appleseeds.net…]
Finally, a lot of the general attacks I’ve seen against Nagin, etc., are unsubstantiated. I feel the overall number of them, and the obvious politics he and Blanco were playing, show their incompetence, but there are individual criticisms— like the Amtrak one— that can’t actually be verified. I assume you are not claiming that you, with your own eyes, saw Amtrak make the offer of the train, but that is one of the things you are saying occurred. So, in terms of you talking about the situation, you are not always clear about what elements you are saying you did actually witness and which elements you simply believe are true.
I hope this doesn’t just feed your anger.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:07:56am |
re: #112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Lesson one… what does not kill me makes me stronger…
But it really hurts.
/
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:08:19am |
re: #112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Lesson one… what does not kill me makes me stronger…
Suck it up and drive on.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:08:43am |
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:09:30am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:09:53am |
re: #113 Obdicut
I’ll call bullshit. Nagin is a fucking moron and Blanco didn’t know there she had to request Nation Guard troops through the proper channels.
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:10:24am |
re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar
I’ll call bullshit. Nagin is a fucking moron and Blanco didn’t know there she had to request Nation Guard troops through the proper channels.
Bullshit on what, sorry?
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cliffster Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:10:34am |
re: #111 MandyManners
And, I’ll stomp the snot out of the next person who says UTK is gonna’ have a bad year.
well, if you consider 5-7 a good year, then yes - they’re going to have a good year!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:11:02am |
re: #113 Obdicut
So, you’re getting into this on purpose? Blaming the feds (of course) and putting no responsibility on City/State/ or FUCKING PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY?
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:12:16am |
re: #121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
So, you’re getting into this on purpose? Blaming the feds (of course) and putting no responsibility on City/State/ or FUCKING PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY?
Did you not bother to read what I wrote or something?
Like, this part?
It is, I feel, quite fair, making the point that local governmental entities and non-profits will always be more effective than federal assistance, and that waiting for the feds is the wrong move.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:12:35am |
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cliffster Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:13:36am |
re: #113 Obdicut
bush the buffoon and evil cheney, hatin’ on those blacks in nawlins.
good grief, dude, you of all people…
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:13:50am |
re: #122 Obdicut
Actually, yeah. I did miss that part. Thought I was at the bottom…didn’t know there were more paragraphs.
Sorry… my fucking knee… jerks all the time.
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:14:17am |
re: #124 cliffster
Please point out where I even mentioned Bush or Cheney in what I wrote.
Or anything having to do with race.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:14:28am |
re: #119 Obdicut
Bullshit on what, sorry?
Kathleen Blanco was caught on a satellite feed asking if she should “now” ask for the National Guard and Nagin was on the radio saying he had buses but no one to drive them to get people out of N.O.
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:14:34am |
re: #113 Obdicut
Upding for your empathy. However, I am a bit tired of redoing this and Iraq and all the other things that won’t change anyones mind and will have no real impact on the future. And yes, my BDS runs pretty damn deep, though not as fast and passionate as it once was, mostly thanks to LGF.
But you know, have at it and good luck with that.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:14:42am |
re: #111 MandyManners
And, I’ll stomp the snot out of the next person who says UTK is gonna’ have a bad year.
You have to live in the land of Auburn/Bama to understand that the SEC is just another snake cult.
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:15:39am |
re: #125 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yes, it does.
I also said:
I feel the overall number of them, and the obvious politics [Nagin] and Blanco were playing, show their incompetence,
I guess you missed that too.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:15:52am |
I got the asshole who face-masked him taken care of.
Then, there were a few who called him “mentally retarded” because I held him back this year. )Never mind the fact that one of them was held back by the school.)
I raised holy hell with the coach about these little fucking turds. This is a Christian school, and if I wanted my son to be subjected to such shit, I’d not pay the freakin’ tuition and send him to public schools that didn’t promote Christian values.
Not one “mentally retarded” comment in two weeks.
I reckon it also helped when The Kid flattened the ring-leader in practice.
Gotta’ love controlled violence.
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:16:16am |
re: #127 Cannadian Club Akbar
Kathleen Blanco was caught on a satellite feed asking if she should “now” ask for the National Guard and Nagin was on the radio saying he had buses but no one to drive them to get people out of N.O.
Which is probably why I called them incompetent, dontcha think?
So what are you calling bullshit on?
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cliffster Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:16:26am |
re: #126 Obdicut
Please point out where I even mentioned Bush or Cheney in what I wrote.
Or anything having to do with race.
Well, it’s that bandwagon that’s rolling alongside you. Look, it’s easy to see when someone is just clawing and scratching to find a reason to blame the president (or CEO, or whatever). Katrina aftermath - that’s what it was all about.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:16:29am |
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:16:57am |
re: #120 cliffster
well, if you consider 5-7 a good year, then yes - they’re going to have a good year!
*whackadawhack*
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:17:08am |
I’m gonna leave this here. Nagin and Blanco were both idiots. Get rid of FEMA and give a contract to Fed Ex, DHL or Wal Mart to get people supplies. At least they know what the fuck they are doing.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:17:14am |
re: #121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
So, you’re getting into this on purpose? Blaming the feds (of course) and putting no responsibility on City/State/ or FUCKING PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY?
IT’S ALL BUSH’S FAULT.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:18:01am |
re: #113 Obdicut
What also wasn’t “missed” was
“But that doesn’t mean that anyone who doesn’t immediately trust your version to be not only 100% accurate but 100% complete is suffering from “BDS”.
Because I’m POSITIVE Reiner stated that her story ois THE one and only version
Yup,, she said it ,, right there in comment # ,, umm,,,, errr,, hold on, I’ll find where she said she was 100% accurate!
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:18:13am |
re: #129 Decatur Deb
You have to live in the land of Auburn/Bama to understand that the SEC is just another snake cult.
BTDT.
I bleed Orange.
(Bama sucks.)
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:18:14am |
re: #133 cliffster
Well, it’s that bandwagon that’s rolling alongside you. Look, it’s easy to see when someone is just clawing and scratching to find a reason to blame the president (or CEO, or whatever). Katrina aftermath - that’s what it was all about.
What bandwagon? What did I say that you object to?
Or are you just criticizing me for what other people do, in terms of blaming Bush?
I don’t feel Brown was a good appointee. I also don’t feel it really mattered that much during Katrina. That is the limit to the extent to which I really feel Bush bears any blame— i.e., almost none.
So what about what I’ve actually said do you have a problem with?
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:18:54am |
re: #137 MandyManners
IT’S ALL BUSH’S FAULT.
Who is saying that, Mandy?
Because I’m not.
So why are you saying that, in the context of what I wrote?
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:19:09am |
re: #131 MandyManners
Heh, your a hard ass, but I bet your a great mom.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:20:16am |
re: #141 Obdicut
Who is saying that, Mandy?
Because I’m not.
So why are you saying that, in the context of what I wrote?
I wasn’t aware I was talking to you.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:20:28am |
re: #132 Obdicut
Which is probably why I called them incompetent, dontcha think?
So what are you calling bullshit on?
You said some of the attacks can’t be verified. I’m cool with that. My bad. (I don’t know what all was said) Point is they failed. Badly.
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:21:29am |
re: #143 MandyManners
I wasn’t aware I was talking to you.
Really? You were responding to a comment that was a response to me. So what you said had nothing to do with what I said?
Why’d you say it, then?
Who are you talking to?
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Jeff In Ohio Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:21:38am |
Ah, I hear the ladies stirring upstairs. Time to get breakfast on the table.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:21:46am |
re: #141 Obdicut
Who is saying that, Mandy?
Because I’m not.
So why are you saying that, in the context of what I wrote?
waytomissthesarc
Also,,, way to stir up what was up to that point a very pleasant Saturday morning coffee clatch!
{sigh}
I think I’ll go do some yard work!
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:22:40am |
re: #144 Cannadian Club Akbar
You said some of the attacks can’t be verified. I’m cool with that. My bad. (I don’t know what all was said) Point is they failed. Badly.
Which is also what I said, given that I said it showed their incompetence.
I do recommend everyone read the Appleseed report. It focuses on the aftermath, not the disaster itself.
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cliffster Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:22:41am |
re: #140 Obdicut
So what about what I’ve actually said do you have a problem with?
It’s what you’re not saying. “All those idiots bashing Bush for Katrina need to STFU”. That is not what you’re saying. Instead, you’re saying, “well, kinda, sorta, y’know”. You can’t help but want to bash on Bush, even though you know it’s stupid, so you just get a couple of little indirect jabs in.
saturday morning psychology complimentary
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:22:54am |
re: #142 Jeff In Ohio
Heh, your a hard ass, but I bet your a great mom.
Why, thank you, Jeff.
I think that’s one of the reasons I’m a great mom. A weak spine could not deal with The Kid. Goodness. He’s just like me. Full-tilt boogie.
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Decatur Deb Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:23:05am |
re: #139 MandyManners
BTDT.
I bleed Orange.
(Bama sucks.)
We sent enough daughters and money to Auburn that they should should name a building—a bar would be appropriate.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:23:24am |
re: #145 Obdicut
Really? You were responding to a comment that was a response to me. So what you said had nothing to do with what I said?
Why’d you say it, then?
Who are you talking to?
Fat bastard.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:23:38am |
re: #146 Jeff In Ohio
Ah, I hear the ladies stirring upstairs. Time to get breakfast on the table.
Enjoy!
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:24:26am |
re: #147 sattv4u2
waytomissthesarc
Also,,, way to stir up what was up to that point a very pleasant Saturday morning coffee clatch!
{sigh}
I think I’ll go do some yard work!
Watch out for the cotton-mouths! (Wanna’ borrow my DE .50 or my hoe?)
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sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:24:55am |
re: #152 MandyManners
see [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:25:14am |
re: #148 Obdicut
Which is also what I said, given that I said it showed their incompetence.
I do recommend everyone read the Appleseed report. It focuses on the aftermath, not the disaster itself.
This is why I need to be in charge.
/half
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:25:37am |
re: #140 Obdicut
Brownie was in over his head… I don’t know who was prepared to handle something of that scale, but he did appear to be “lacking”.
This dude, appears to be amazingly qualified to run FEMA.
I just hope he doesn’t have to prove that he could handle a disaster on that scale.
Again, sorry for launching in with both feet…
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:25:48am |
re: #149 cliffster
It’s what you’re not saying. “All those idiots bashing Bush for Katrina need to STFU”. That is not what you’re saying. Instead, you’re saying, “well, kinda, sorta, y’know”. You can’t help but want to bash on Bush, even though you know it’s stupid, so you just get a couple of little indirect jabs in.
saturday morning psychology complimentary
And internet psychology is just as stupid as it always is, Cliffster. It’s not any better when you do it.
What more do I have to do other than say that I don’t think Bush bears almost any responsibility for the disaster, Blanco and Nagin were incompetent, local response will always be superior to federal?
What about what I’ve said— not what you’re projecting onto me— do you actually have a problem with?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:26:05am |
re: #154 MandyManners
Watch out for the cotton-mouths! (Wanna’ borrow my DE .50 or my hoe?)
Not going that far back into the property (only to spread some deer corn), but thanks
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:26:14am |
re: #157 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Brownie was in over his head… I don’t know who was prepared to handle something of that scale, but he did appear to be “lacking”.
This dude, appears to be amazingly qualified to run FEMA.
I just hope he doesn’t have to prove that he could handle a disaster on that scale.
Again, sorry for launching in with both feet…
I never mind the initial response when you’re so gracious afterwards, FBV.
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:26:41am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:27:41am |
re: #158 Obdicut
Oh! I was projecting like an MF’er.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:28:00am |
Obdi, I’m not trying to be an asshole here. Do you know what is required to get the Feds involved in a disaster?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:28:05am |
re: #161 Obdicut
And who was he talking to, Mandy?
Cool,,, by that logic/ method, we COULD trace this all the way back to the 1st EVER LGF post!!
Is that you, Kevin Bacon !?!?!
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:28:13am |
re: #151 Decatur Deb
We sent enough daughters and money to Auburn that they should should name a building—a bar would be appropriate.
LOL! My parents know the feeling about UTK and my sister. She went the sorority route, and attended all football games, even the out-of-town ones.
Never give a high-limit American Express to your 18-year-old child who’s never been out of your sight.
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HoosierHoops Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:28:26am |
re: #139 MandyManners
BTDT.
I bleed Orange.
(Bama sucks.)
Have you watched the Blind Side yet?
BTW..I hated it when my folks showed up for my games…HATED IT!
Honest to God the only Game i remember from 7th grade is when I got called in and didn’t know who to Guard.. I’m asking my guy and he just runs off the court without telling me who to guard…Thanks Coach.. I’m running backwards as fast as I can trying to figure what to do…I fell on my ass and looked up to see my dad shaking his head..The only play I can remember from 7th grade…My mom only saw me play one time in High School..I hated being nervous.. I forbad them coming to my games…That’s the truth
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:29:17am |
re: #163 Cannadian Club Akbar
Obdi, I’m not trying to be an asshole here. Do you know what is required to get the Feds involved in a disaster?
Yes. Which is why I consider Nagin and Blanco incompetent, for flubbing the steps necessary to get the Feds involved.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:29:37am |
re: #166 HoosierHoops
The only play I can remember from 7th grade
Thats because, after that performance, it was the only play you were in on!!
//
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:29:38am |
re: #159 sattv4u2
Not going that far back into the property (only to spread some deer corn), but thanks
I had deer here yesterday. Beautiful critters.
HEY, TED NUGENT! STAY OFFA’ MY LAND.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:29:38am |
re: #166 HoosierHoops
That was basketball. We’re talking about real sports.
/not in the face!!!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:29:59am |
Jack Kirkpatrick: Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let ‘em crash.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:29:59am |
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:30:01am |
re: #167 Obdicut
Yes. Which is why I consider Nagin and Blanco incompetent, for flubbing the steps necessary to get the Feds involved.
Well, and for being generally unprepared too. But that was definitely one of their largest incompetencies, and even worse since some of it was clearly simply driven by control issues and parochial politics.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:30:19am |
re: #164 sattv4u2
Cool,,, by that logic/ method, we COULD trace this all the way back to the 1st EVER LGF post!!
Is that you, Kevin Bacon !?!?!
HAHAHAHAHAAA!
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Decatur Deb Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:30:45am |
re: #165 MandyManners
LOL! My parents know the feeling about UTK and my sister. She went the sorority route, and attended all football games, even the out-of-town ones.
Never give a high-limit American Express to your 18-year-old child who’s never been out of your sight.
Daughter 1 earned a Masters in Education. Daughter 2 got into rugby and earned a trip back to a home-town school.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:30:52am |
re: #167 Obdicut
Yes. Which is why I consider Nagin and Blanco incompetent, for flubbing the steps necessary to get the Feds involved.
Cool. Here in the hurricane belt we realize that some don’t know the steps. Now, everyone off Obdi.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:30:56am |
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cliffster Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:31:03am |
re: #158 Obdicut
“But that doesn’t mean that anyone who doesn’t immediately trust your version to be not only 100% accurate but 100% complete is suffering from “BDS”. Clearly, one of the biggest problems in people’s minds— I’m not saying this is a problem that actually had an effect, but was very visible— was that “Brownie” was clearly a patronage appointee with no actual experience or expertise.”
That’s a pretty good example. Yes, you did say that it maybe didn’t have an effect, etc, etc. But, why bring it up, then? If it had no impact, then why bring it up at all?
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sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:31:29am |
re: #177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What is UTK?
University of Tennessee at Kentucky?
buy a map, you dweeb!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:31:55am |
re: #177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh. Knoxville.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:32:21am |
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cliffster Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:32:31am |
re: #166 HoosierHoops
I loved Blind Side. And I hated the reviews.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:32:35am |
re: #178 cliffster
But, why bring it up, then? If it had no impact, then why bring it up at all?
BINGO
“I’m not saying you’re a murderer, I’m just saying!”
{sigh}
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:32:59am |
re: #166 HoosierHoops
Have you watched the Blind Side yet?
BTW..I hated it when my folks showed up for my games…HATED IT!
Honest to God the only Game i remember from 7th grade is when I got called in and didn’t know who to Guard.. I’m asking my guy and he just runs off the court without telling me who to guard…Thanks Coach.. I’m running backwards as fast as I can trying to figure what to do…I fell on my ass and looked up to see my dad shaking his head..The only play I can remember from 7th grade…My mom only saw me play one time in High School..I hated being nervous.. I forbad them coming to my games…That’s the truth
My clearest memory from basketball in the seventh grade was catching a ball in the face because I couldn’t get my arms up quickly because they were in casts because I broke both (and, my cocyx) when I fell off the top of the pyramid during cheerleading practice.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:34:09am |
re: #175 Decatur Deb
Daughter 1 earned a Masters in Education. Daughter 2 got into rugby and earned a trip back to a home-town school.
If I had my wish, I’d still be in school.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:34:25am |
Boyfriend update… went home yesterday for a field trip from Rehab… they’re testing out his maneuverability in the new apartment made for him by his parents in their basement.
He may be able to go home in a couple of weeks.
We’re waiting on his new life to begin.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:34:26am |
re: #184 MandyManners
My clearest memory from basketball in the seventh grade was catching a ball in the face because I couldn’t get my arms up quickly because they were in casts because I broke both (and, my cocyx) when I fell off the top of the pyramid during cheerleading practice.
I’d rather have 2 broken legs than a broken tail bone. That sucks.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:34:31am |
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:35:07am |
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:35:48am |
re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Boyfriend update… went home yesterday for a field trip from Rehab… they’re testing out his maneuverability in the new apartment made for him by his parents in their basement.
He may be able to go home in a couple of weeks.
We’re waiting on his new life to begin.
Any more movement in the feet?
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Decatur Deb Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:36:08am |
re: #185 MandyManners
If I had my wish, I’d still be in school.
Archaeology gradschool is the top of all the lifestyle food chains.
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:36:33am |
re: #178 cliffster
Because it was highly visible, Cliffster. I’m trying to explain to Reine why some people do have such a strong impression that the feds— and Bush— fucked up.
I don’t think that Brown had that large of an effect. However, he was head of FEMA, and he was highly visible— flailing— during the disaster. This gave the impression to a lot of people that he was actually screwing things up— which, again, I don’t believe was the case, and I’ve said as much to many people. And I’m saying it again now.
But, since he was plastered all over the news, and since Bush unwisely complimented him, it fixates a lot of people. It was a Dukakis-in-the-tank moment. It had no real significance, but it created an indelible impression.
I’m mentioning it in the context of helping Reine understand the perception of the event on a national level.
Is that the only thing I said that you object to?
You know, I really spend almost no time ‘bashing’ Bush. At all. I doubt you could find three examples of me doing so. Because Bush isn’t president anymore, and I don’t find it useful to heap criticism on him. So it’s a little weird that you’re treating me as though I have some compulsion to criticize him.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:36:45am |
re: #187 Cannadian Club Akbar
I’d rather have 2 broken legs than a broken tail bone. That sucks.
I’ve had a broken femur. Trust me. A broken cocyx is no big deal in comparison.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:37:16am |
re: #193 Decatur Deb
Archaeology gradschool is the top of all the lifestyle food chains.
I’d love to do that in Israel.
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rwdflynavy Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:37:39am |
You must watch, Not Safe for Work
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:38:23am |
re: #195 MandyManners
I’ve had a broken femur. Trust me. A broken cocyx is no big deal in comparison.
I think I broke a pinky toe once. I just taped it to the next one.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:38:27am |
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Decatur Deb Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:38:35am |
re: #196 MandyManners
I’d love to do that in Israel.
Did it, then went to Israel. We used “Biblical Archaeology Review” as a weekly tour planner.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:39:47am |
re: #195 MandyManners
Geez, Mandy. You were Evel Kinevel in another life?
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:40:03am |
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cliffster Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:40:38am |
re: #194 Obdicut
Because it was highly visible, Cliffster. I’m trying to explain to Reine why some people do have such a strong impression that the feds— and Bush— fucked up.
In other words, you’re defending the stupidity. Whether that’s what you really intend or not, that’s what comes across - “yeah, I know in my mind they are wrong, but…”
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:40:40am |
re: #201 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Geez, Mandy. You were Evel Kinevel in another life?
I’m pretty sure she played Roller Derby.
/
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:41:09am |
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:41:42am |
re: #200 Decatur Deb
Did it, then went to Israel. We used “Biblical Archaeology Review” as a weekly tour planner.
That musta’ been awesome!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:42:24am |
re: #204 Cannadian Club Akbar
I’m pretty sure she played Roller Derby.
/
Her jersey said bitchycrankyass.
/sorry Mandy, was funny in my head.
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cliffster Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:42:25am |
re: #195 MandyManners
I’ve had a broken femur. Trust me. A broken cocyx is no big deal in comparison.
how on earth does one break a femur? wait, I don’t want to know.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:43:10am |
re: #201 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Geez, Mandy. You were Evel Kinevel in another life?
Naw. Just a bad car wreck. Three months in traction. Three months in a cast. Six months on crutches. (It was a very bad break. Another centimeter or so and the bone would’ve broken the skin.)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:43:24am |
re: #208 Cannadian Club Akbar
Now it’s funny in mine.
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McSpiff Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:43:44am |
re: #203 cliffster
In other words, you’re defending the stupidity. Whether that’s what you really intend or not, that’s what comes across - “yeah, I know in my mind they are wrong, but…”
No, he’s saying PR matters I’d. Equally true if its in the corporate world or government. You can handle disaster recovery, and still fuck up the PR. How your response is perceived is important. NO was painted as a war zone. I think this had a long term effect on the American consciousness to be honest, and for the worse.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:43:50am |
re: #204 Cannadian Club Akbar
I’m pretty sure she played Roller Derby.
/
The helmet would’ve messed up my hair.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:44:15am |
re: #208 Cannadian Club Akbar
Her jersey said bitchycrankyass.
/sorry Mandy, was funny in my head.
And, it’s funny outta’ your head.
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dugmartsch Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:44:15am |
As a cardinals fan, I can’t believe TLR and Albert Pujols are attending that Beck restoring honor rally in DC.
Supposedly they actually believe it’s apolitical, but damn, how naive do you have to be to repeat something like that?
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lostlakehiker Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:44:22am |
re: #113 Obdicut
Well, I’m very sympathetic to that, and very grateful that you’ve told your story, Reine. I do wish people would listen to it more.
But you’ve got to understand that anecdotal evidence— which is what you’re presenting— is generally not regarded as the final word on the subject. I know that you are also, in a way, an expert, having been a state employee, a long-time resident, and knowing a great deal about the city.
But that doesn’t mean that anyone who doesn’t immediately trust your version to be not only 100% accurate but 100% complete is suffering from “BDS”. Clearly, one of the biggest problems in people’s minds— I’m not saying this is a problem that actually had an effect, but was very visible— was that “Brownie” was clearly a patronage appointee with no actual experience or expertise. That the folks at FEMA in general managed just fine during the disaster without any guidance from the director is, I think, true. Red tape still did exist, of course— see [Link: www.usatoday.com…] which I was reminded me in terms of the Coast Guard inspection of ships helping out with the oil spill.
However, the disaster at Katrina did not end with the actual physical devastation. There was also, afterwards, the question of the evacuees long-term, and I did not, and still do not, feel that FEMA did a good job in handling that, or the federal government in general.
If you haven’t read it, here’s the Appleseed report on that subject. It is, I feel, quite fair, making the point that local governmental entities and non-profits will always be more effective than federal assistance, and that waiting for the feds is the wrong move. However, it has plenty of criticism for the federal role after the immediate disaster.
[Link: www.appleseeds.net…]
Finally, a lot of the general attacks I’ve seen against Nagin, etc., are unsubstantiated. I feel the overall number of them, and the obvious politics he and Blanco were playing, show their incompetence, but there are individual criticisms— like the Amtrak one— that can’t actually be verified. I assume you are not claiming that you, with your own eyes, saw Amtrak make the offer of the train, but that is one of the things you are saying occurred. So, in terms of you talking about the situation, you are not always clear about what elements you are saying you did actually witness and which elements you simply believe are true.
I hope this doesn’t just feed your anger.
By the time that FEMA actions might have kicked in, most of the damage was already done. A timely mandatory evacuation would have saved most of the lives that were lost. That was up to Blanco and Nagin; federal law and the constitution vest the power there and nowhere else.
Granting that “Brownie” was useless doesn’t get those two off the hook. They were useless at the crucial moment.
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:44:53am |
re: #197 rwdflynavy
My wife said, “That’s brilliant. That guy who invented it created a problem that didn’t exist, and then solved it. That’s what they teach you in business school.”
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:46:14am |
re: #203 cliffster
In other words, you’re defending the stupidity. Whether that’s what you really intend or not, that’s what comes across - “yeah, I know in my mind they are wrong, but…”
No, I’m not defending it. I’m explaining it.
Similarly, I understand why people were very upset at Obama’s ‘clinging’ comment, though I feel it was actually a sympathetic one. I’m not in the least bit surprised at anyone who’s still carrying resentment about it, though. We’re human.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:46:32am |
re: #210 MandyManners
Broken femur is considered the most painful thing ever…
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:46:59am |
re: #209 cliffster
Getting hit head on on a motorcycle works well…/
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cliffster Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:47:10am |
re: #212 McSpiff
No, he’s saying PR matters I’d. Equally true if its in the corporate world or government. You can handle disaster recovery, and still fuck up the PR. How your response is perceived is important. NO was painted as a war zone. I think this had a long term effect on the American consciousness to be honest, and for the worse.
indeed. If you don’t like the long-term effect on the American consciousness, then I’d suggest you write a letter to all the democrats and all liberal journalists who collectively put forth their best effort to paint that picture. It was taking a bad situation and trying to make political capital out of it. Political opportunism at its worst. Disgusting.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:47:13am |
re: #209 cliffster
how on earth does one break a femur? wait, I don’t want to know.
Be in the back seat of a car that hits an oak tree at 120 m.p.h.. Also broke my shoulder. And, cracked No. 4 and 5 cervical vertebrae. They had to cut open the car in order to remove me from under the driver’s seat. My best friend’s body hit the oak tree at 120 m.p.h. so, I was lucky.
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:47:18am |
re: #216 lostlakehiker
So did you not read what I wrote, too? Like, the part where I called Nagin and Blanco incompetent, said that there wasn’t really anything that Brown could have done, etc.?
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jaunte Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:47:22am |
re: #218 Decatur Deb
There’s a big crowd in Washington listening to the liar Glenn Beck, so, no, I don’t think so.
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:47:50am |
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:47:57am |
re: #218 Decatur Deb
Is our honor restored yet? BBL
At least we don’t have to kill a woman to restore our honor.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:48:18am |
re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Broken femur is considered the most painful thing ever…
Good drugs help.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:48:55am |
re: #221 reloadingisnotahobby
Getting hit head on on a motorcycle works well…/
I wrapped a moped around a mailbox before I fell 30 feet off a cliff.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:49:21am |
re: #224 Obdicut
Did you get to see the NatGeo special?
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:49:25am |
And, The Kid wonders how I got this tough.
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:49:50am |
re: #230 Cannadian Club Akbar
Did you get to see the NatGeo special?
Nah, I’m not much of a TV dude. More textual.
Is it worth it?
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lostlakehiker Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:50:15am |
re: #224 Obdicut
So did you not read what I wrote, too? Like, the part where I called Nagin and Blanco incompetent, said that there wasn’t really anything that Brown could have done, etc.?
I read it. My point was that Nagin and Blanco were in a position to make a bigger difference than Brown was.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:50:26am |
re: #232 Obdicut
Nah, I’m not much of a TV dude. More textual.
Is it worth it?
Well. Brought me to tears.
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:50:47am |
re: #229 MandyManners
Damn!!
Mail boxes should be made from …ah..card board!
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:50:52am |
re: #233 lostlakehiker
I read it. My point was that Nagin and Blanco were in a position to make a bigger difference than Brown was.
Which I also said. So, thank you for agreeing with me.
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cliffster Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:51:04am |
re: #223 MandyManners
Be in the back seat of a car that hits an oak tree at 120 m.p.h.. Also broke my shoulder. And, cracked No. 4 and 5 cervical vertebrae. They had to cut open the car in order to remove me from under the driver’s seat. My best friend’s body hit the oak tree at 120 m.p.h. so, I was lucky.
good lord, mandy, I’m sorry.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:51:51am |
Talking about pain… starts at about 4:30… Brian Regan
Even mentions broken femurs.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:51:53am |
re: #235 reloadingisnotahobby
Damn!!
Mail boxes should be made from …ah..card board!
That cardboard would’ve been down the cliff with me.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:52:56am |
Man, can’t we talk about puppies and butterflies?
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:53:00am |
re: #237 cliffster
good lord, mandy, I’m sorry.
Thank you. It’s one of the reasons that I’ll never sleep when if I let The Kid out of my sight when he turns 13.
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cliffster Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:53:25am |
I crashed a few cars into a few stationary objects in my time - before I was 20. Couple of concussions, but no large bones broken. Since then, haven’t even gotten a speeding ticket.
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McSpiff Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:54:07am |
re: #222 cliffster
indeed. If you don’t like the long-term effect on the American consciousness, then I’d suggest you write a letter to all the democrats and all liberal journalists who collectively put forth their best effort to paint that picture. It was taking a bad situation and trying to make political capital out of it. Political opportunism at its worst. Disgusting.
On one level I agree. On another tho, I think the particular threads that started with NO have been picked up by clowns like Beck and used by the right, so I’m not so ready to assign blame to one side of the aisle. It was used by the libs because the GOP was in office. The roles could easily be worse and we could be talking about ODS right now.
“Death panels!” = “Reports of doctors killing patients..”
“They’re coming for our guns!” = “Reports of police seizing fire arms”
“The government is not there to help us”/FEMA camps! = Well, everything that came out of the superdome.
Race war = The whole racial coverage.
So yeah the liberals used it for their advantage, now its being picked up by the other side. The media loves sensationalism more than it loves politics.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:54:26am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:54:44am |
re: #242 cliffster
I crashed a few cars into a few stationary objects in my time - before I was 20. Couple of concussions, but no large bones broken. Since then, haven’t even gotten a speeding ticket.
I rolled a car at 21 doing 100 MPH. Thank God the tree stopped me after only 2 spins.
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:55:03am |
re: #242 cliffster
Ive never been in a car crash with injuri…..woah…damn..gotta go….I’m
driving on I15 southbound…/
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:55:12am |
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:56:08am |
re: #242 cliffster
I crashed a few cars into a few stationary objects in my time - before I was 20. Couple of concussions, but no large bones broken. Since then, haven’t even gotten a speeding ticket.
I wasn’t driving but, I learned the same lesson. Oops. I’ve had a speeding ticket or three.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:56:17am |
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lawhawk Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:56:36am |
Here’s a live feed from the rally in DC. Al Sharpton will be leading a rally following the Beck-alooza.
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Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:57:30am |
re: #245 Cannadian Club Akbar
I got pushed off a second story building and didn’t even get bruised.
I’m lucky and have a strange bone condition that means I have tons more cartilage than the average person. I can rotate my arm 360 degrees at the wrist.
Hard to explain.
The worst injury I ever had was a hernia in my groin that they had to repair with a mesh made out of stuff like Kevlar.
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jaunte Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:58:01am |
re: #250 lawhawk
Just a few minutes ago Sarah Palin was speaking on the virtues of never giving up.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:58:32am |
re: #244 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Mandy? I’m sorry. But I’m starting to imagine you as Nordberg.
[Video]
Oh, my stars. That’s freakin’ hillarious.
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:59:03am |
re: #249 Cannadian Club Akbar
I’ll need to throw down some Anthrax to counter that!!
Bring it on, dude.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:59:13am |
re: #250 lawhawk
What’s that called? “The Other Fringe”?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 7:59:19am |
re: #251 Obdicut
I’m kinda the same. Did all kinds of stoopid shit when younger. Haven’t had a cold of flu in 13 years.
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lawhawk Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:00:23am |
re: #251 Obdicut
I got pushed off a playground slide that broke my elbow when I was a young-un…. much more recently, I broke my ankle after rolling it (it could have been much worse had I merely torn all the ligaments - that would have required surgery; this was merely a soft cast and rehab).
Oh, and I once was on the receiving end of a baseball bat to the face (accidental). Just missed being blinded - only took a couple of stitches below the eye… and was known as batman for quite some time after that…
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:00:35am |
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lawhawk Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:00:43am |
re: #255 reloadingisnotahobby
What the heck does he have hanging from his wrist though?
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MandyManners Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:00:55am |
re: #252 jaunte
Just a few minutes ago Sarah Palin was speaking on the virtues of never giving up.
She could take a lesson or two from me.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:01:07am |
re: #261 reloadingisnotahobby
I am precisely Glenn Beck Fat…
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:01:13am |
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lawhawk Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:01:48am |
re: #252 jaunte
Just a few minutes ago Sarah Palin was speaking on the virtues of never giving up.
Never give up.. .never surrender…. never surrender… Camelot lives… /oh wait, speaking gigs and lots of money without staying in office? Sign me up… oh, and I quit!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:02:37am |
I turned on the TV to see the beck crowd, but there is a special on NatGeo about Special Forces. I love NatGeo.
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jaunte Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:02:43am |
re: #263 MandyManners
My wife had a lot of the same experiences with her first husband that you have described with your ex, so I can imagine.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:03:16am |
re: #260 lawhawk
I had a cyst removed from my jaw (right beside the ear) when I was 7. Anesthesia. Four stitches.
Other than that?
Nothing but back trouble and gout…
I’ve had it pretty easy.
Knock on virtual wood.
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lawhawk Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:15:11am |
re: #258 ProLifeLiberal
Beats the heck out of me… I haven’t seen a photo of the Mall…
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Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:15:57am |
Live feed of Glenn Beck’s nut rally
It’s a bit harsh first thing in the morning.
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:16:13am |
Speaking of driving…
I installed a K&N cold air intake on the Wife’s
06 Hemi Jeep Commander yesterday …..Damn!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:20:14am |
re: #273 Killgore Trout
I assumed it was on TV…
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simoom Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:21:47am |
I clicked on a live feed of the Restoring Honor rally, to watch as I ate my breakfast oatmeal, and the first thing I see is some guy at the podium saying something like:
“… there were three practical women in the ministry of Jesus, just like there are all of you here, in this great audience, in the ministry of Dr. Glenn Beck …”
That was a little much, so I closed the the video and opened LGF, to read instead, as I finished eating.
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jaunte Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:21:59am |
re: #273 Killgore Trout
Live feed of Glenn Beck’s nut rally
It’s a bit harsh first thing in the morning.
Listening to the speeches with David Barton’s involvement in mind is illuminating.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:23:23am |
re: #272 lawhawk
I heard someone say it was 2k people there. Someone said that MSNBC was saying that is the current crowd size.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:23:41am |
re: #276 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Did I just make the first official “exaggerated estimate of attendance” joke?
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:23:52am |
re: #277 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hang on a sec… I count 6.4 billion!
/
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:24:41am |
OH GOSH! THEY’RE USING THE OBAMA POSTER GRAPHICS!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:26:06am |
re: #280 ProLifeLiberal
Okay… that’s ridiculous. I just saw a camera sweep… whole bunch more than that… unless they have many, many mirrors strategically set up.
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:26:08am |
re: #280 ProLifeLiberal
Too many!!
I’m claustrophobic in line at the grocery store!
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jaunte Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:27:38am |
re: #283 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Appropriating the other guy’s symbols is one of the themes of the day.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:28:22am |
re: #284 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I thought that might be low. Is there a picture of the political rally?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:30:53am |
re: #287 ProLifeLiberal
I thought that might be low. Is there a picture of the political rally?
[Link: www.ustream.tv…]
You have to watch speeches… camera pans around…
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ProBosniaLiberal Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:32:51am |
re: #288 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Does 100,000 sound about right?
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simoom Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:33:09am |
Hah! That retired Justice just opened by making a rock-and-roll “sign of the horns” hand symbol: _\m/
Did he just troll Beck’s rally? :P
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:33:41am |
John Huntsman….
Invented Styrofoam I think….
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:35:12am |
re: #289 ProLifeLiberal
Oh, I have no idea… I am the worst.
Went to a minor league baseball game… told my wife… “This is sad… there are only about 500 people here.”
Ten minutes later announced attendance, “3,400”.
I am the wrong guy to ask.
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Political Atheist Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:35:40am |
re: #274 reloadingisnotahobby
Did that make a big diff? Thinking about one for my Colorado
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:36:52am |
Whoa! Saw a black dude in the crowd!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:37:28am |
re: #290 simoom
Thought it was the Legg’s panty hose egg.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:37:48am |
re: #293 Rightwingconspirator
Did that make a big diff? Thinking about one for my Colorado
You coming to Colorado?
| 297 |
darthstar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:38:29am |
“Glenn Beck Award for Charity” to some guy from Salt Lake city? WTF? And is that woman accepting supposed to be his daughter?
| 298 |
Political Atheist Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:39:16am |
re: #296 Walter L. Newton
Heh. No such luck darn it.
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:39:29am |
re: #293 Rightwingconspirator
Did that make a big diff? Thinking about one for my Colorado
Haven’t highway tested it yet…but acceleration…yes!
Gave me another 2 or 2.5 MPG on my Titan!!
| 301 |
simoom Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:40:15am |
re: #295 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Thought it was the Legg’s panty hose egg.
Hehe. Actually, I think I had it wrong. The hand symbol was like this:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
the American Sign Language ILY sign (“I Love You”)
| 302 |
reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:41:14am |
| 303 |
Guanxi88 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:42:00am |
re: #302 reloadingisnotahobby
Ok…He made Styrofoam…
Wondrous invention, sir! It insulates, and it floats, meaning you can fill your cooler up with beer and tube down the Guadalupe.
What more could you ask?
| 304 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:42:03am |
re: #302 reloadingisnotahobby
He has done extraordinary things with his money.
| 305 |
Political Atheist Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:42:07am |
re: #299 reloadingisnotahobby
I bought an 05 Chevy Colorado- 5 cylinder mid size truck. Worth some effort to get better high beams and mileage. I do get way into desert back roads on photo practice sessions.
| 306 |
darthstar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:42:26am |
re: #300 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yep…looked him up. But I’m starting to wonder, does this mean the “Glenn Beck Award for Charity” (and whatever other awards he gives) will become a national tradition?
Isn’t that about as sensible as having a Jeffrey Dahmer award for recipes?
| 308 |
ProBosniaLiberal Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:43:02am |
re: #288 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Part of me feels very sad that there are so many hateful people willing to see this junk.
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reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:43:46am |
re: #304 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
He has done extraordinary things with his money.
I’ve spent some time at the U.of U. (knee surgeries)
Half the building up there bare his name!!
| 310 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:44:31am |
re: #308 ProLifeLiberal
Part of me feels very sad that there are so many hateful people willing to see this junk.
Calm down. There are good people there, too.
As there will be at Sharpton’s reply rally later. And hateful people.
See? That’s how it works.
| 311 |
darthstar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:44:34am |
People are three deep along that railing. Wow.
And now the MLK montage…Beck has no sense of shame.
| 312 |
Taqyia2Me Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:44:52am |
re: #306 darthstar
Jeffrey Dahmer Award for Recipies!
LOL!
| 313 |
Guanxi88 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:45:31am |
re: #303 Guanxi88
Wondrous invention, sir! It insulates, and it floats, meaning you can fill your cooler up with beer and tube down the Guadalupe.
What more could you ask?
Expanding on the theme a bit, you realize that but for him, New Braunfels would have NO economy to speak of?
Hell, expanded polystyrene foam MADE that town.
| 314 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:45:44am |
re: #306 darthstar
Do you not think Mr. Huntsman deserves an award for his philanthropies?
| 315 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:46:37am |
re: #310 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Calm down. There are good people there, too.
As there will be at Sharpton’s reply rally later. And hateful people.
See? That’s how it works.
No way… if Huntsman is in any way associated with Glenn Beck, then he is a xenophobic, bigoted, bible thumping Christian extremist who is certainly plotting to take over the whole fucking government.
I don’t want to have anything to do with such scum.
| 316 |
Guanxi88 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:47:30am |
re: #315 Walter L. Newton
No way… if Huntsman is in any way associated with Glenn Beck, then he is a xenophobic, bigoted, bible thumping Christian extremist who is certainly plotting to take over the whole fucking government.
I don’t want to have anything to do with such scum.
(And he can play piano by ear, folks. Just hum a few bars, and he can take it from there.)
| 317 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:48:02am |
re: #315 Walter L. Newton
It’s starting to piss me off.
Because Glenn Beck wants to give a man an award, it makes that man less deserving.
Complete and total and absolute bullshit.
| 318 |
reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:48:05am |
re: #306 darthstar
Yep…looked him up. But I’m starting to wonder, does this mean the “Glenn Beck Award for Charity” (and whatever other awards he gives) will become a national tradition?
Isn’t that about as sensible as having a Jeffrey Dahmer award for recipes?
I’ve been watching!!
All I’ve seen is hate,bigotry and racism….NOT!!
Appears to be a very well rounded crowd!
| 319 |
Jeff In Ohio Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:48:36am |
re: #191 MandyManners
Go Vols!
Actually, I don’t care, but my old man is a big fan of the Volunteers as he and my sister both did college there. He’s 90 with fairly advanced Alzheimer’s and about the only thing he remembers is to ask whoever is in the room if there’s a game on.
Go Vols! Keeping Dad in the present one minute at a time.
| 320 |
Guanxi88 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:48:39am |
re: #317 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It’s starting to piss me off.
Because Glenn Beck wants to give a man an award, it makes that man less deserving.
Complete and total and absolute bullshit.
Reductio ad Beckam, as it’s been called.
| 321 |
darthstar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:49:12am |
re: #314 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Do you not think Mr. Huntsman deserves an award for his philanthropies?
Sure…but I’m balking at the attachment of “Glenn Beck” to the award. Beck is recognizing people for the sole purpose of promoting himself.
| 322 |
Four More Tears Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:49:49am |
re: #316 Guanxi88
Hey! Where the hell have you been?
| 323 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:51:02am |
re: #321 darthstar
Darth? Sorry, man. I think you’re being ridiculous.
But, it is your right to do so.
| 324 |
McSpiff Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:51:49am |
re: #317 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It’s starting to piss me off.
Because Glenn Beck wants to give a man an award, it makes that man less deserving.
Complete and total and absolute bullshit.
It doesn’t make him less deserving because Beck wants to give it to him. It changes my opinion of him if he accepts it though.
| 325 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:53:02am |
re: #321 darthstar
Jon Huntsman was on the Beck Show on the radio once, was the first time I had ever heard of him.
He is, frankly, a great man. I would not have known he existed without Glenn Beck’s introduction.
For that, I am grateful to Glenn.
OH NOES!
| 326 |
reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:53:43am |
Beck is a nut!
But I’ll never assume to know a mans soul !PERIOD!
| 327 |
ProBosniaLiberal Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:54:30am |
re: #310 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
With the stuff the Tea Party likes to say about Muslims, it makes it very hard to see them as a good thing in any way.
[Link: www.loonwatch.com…]
| 328 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:54:31am |
re: #321 darthstar
Sure…but I’m balking at the attachment of “Glenn Beck” to the award. Beck is recognizing people for the sole purpose of promoting himself.
If you look into Huntsman and Beck’s relationship (which evidently you don’t know shit about), you will find that Huntsman has spend many more years than Beck has been a large public figure, giving money, time and effort to cancer research and other such charities. Beck has know him for many, many years, and has been his friend.
Before Beck even had a national audience, he was praising Huntsman. They served on some charitable boards together long before Beck’s rise to prominence.
In short, this relationship with Huntsmans was created a long time ago and is not some recent incarnation designed to bolster Beck’s popularity.
But don’t let those facts get in the way of your preconceived fantasies.
| 329 |
Four More Tears Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:54:47am |
re: #317 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It’s starting to piss me off.
Because Glenn Beck wants to give a man an award, it makes that man less deserving.
Complete and total and absolute bullshit.
FBV, I think the question some are asking boils down to “What the hell does Glenn Beck know about charity?” Imagine if he was giving an award for, I dunno, scientific excellence or something. I don’t think it’s all about Huntsman, you know?
| 330 |
darthstar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:54:59am |
re: #323 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Darth? Sorry, man. I think you’re being ridiculous.
But, it is your right to do so.
Hey, I said nothing negative about Huntsman. I just think this Glenn Beck show is a disgusting manipulation, and he’s dragging good people like Huntsman into it. America’s honor doesn’t need to be restored. It’s fine the way it is.
In fact, the only person who has said anything vile about Huntsman is Walter upthread (though he’s just trying to be ironic in his trollish way).
| 331 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:55:31am |
re: #327 ProLifeLiberal
Nice re-direct there.
| 334 |
Gus Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:56:20am |
Dear Diary. Can’t decide whether to watch Beckstock or watch paint dry.
| 335 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:56:40am |
re: #329 JasonA
I find it funny when people who are fans of Obama find it surprising that someone might be self-serving.
| 336 |
reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:56:57am |
re: #328 Walter L. Newton
…He is also “Uplifting ” A fellow Mormon.
Just saying…It’s a common practice around these parts!
| 337 |
Varek Raith Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:56:59am |
re: #334 Gus 802
Dear Diary. Can’t decide whether to watch Beckstock or watch paint dry.
I think I’ll just drink the paint.
/
| 338 |
jaunte Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:57:01am |
re: #329 JasonA
FBV, I think the question some are asking boils down to “What the hell does Glenn Beck know about charity?” Imagine if he was giving an award for, I dunno, scientific excellence or something. I don’t think it’s all about Huntsman, you know?
I think he finds charity to be an important device if he needs it.
| 339 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:57:19am |
re: #324 McSpiff
It doesn’t make him less deserving because Beck wants to give it to him. It changes my opinion of him if he accepts it though.
Please see my message above. This relationship with Huntsman goes way, way back, they are good friends and this was not spawned from some devious need for Beck to get PR out of this. Beck has been talking for 15 years or more about finding some way to honor and repay Huntsman’s generosity. I heard Beck talking about this guy before Beck went national.
| 340 |
Guanxi88 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:57:19am |
re: #322 JasonA
Hey! Where the hell have you been?
Busy as hell, and all over creation. Went out to Marfa and Fort Davis last week - nice places, both, though Marfa’s been overrun with Californians. if there’s any upside to the current depression that dare not speak its name, it’s that the places getting Californicated are slowly reverting to their natural state again.
Swung down to Terlingua, by the way, and marked it as the cite for our next winter holiday. On this trip, saw so many Border Patrol I got bored of noticing them.
| 341 |
Four More Tears Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:57:27am |
re: #335 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I find it funny when people who are fans of Obama find it surprising that someone might be self-serving.
Huh? What does Obama have to do with anything?
Listen, how many pundits do you know of who give out awards?
| 342 |
Gus Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:57:37am |
re: #337 Varek Raith
I think I’ll just drink the paint.
/
Drink paint. Drop a hit of acid. Smoke a couple of doobies then walk backwards to the store.
| 343 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:57:54am |
re: #336 reloadingisnotahobby
Doesn’t change what the man has done.
| 344 |
darthstar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:58:18am |
re: #333 webevintage
That is one seriously white crowd…
Yes, but they all seem to be getting into the gospel thing quite well.
| 345 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:58:47am |
re: #341 JasonA
Huh? What does Obama have to do with anything?
Listen, how many pundits do you know of who give out awards?
Any of them who find a way to make it suit their needs will do it.
| 346 |
McSpiff Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:59:01am |
re: #335 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I find it funny when people who are fans of Obama find it surprising that someone might be self-serving.
Look, you’re a Beck fan and hate liberals, fair enough. But don’t act shocked when some of us think less of someone for accepting an award, or think the whole thing is a bit of a farce when he gives the award to his long time friend. Sure, recognize the guy for his great works, but don’t turn it into some sort of ‘award’. The whole thing just has delusions of grander to it.
I give my mom mother’s day presents. I don’t give her “The McSpiff best mother ever prize”.
| 348 |
ProBosniaLiberal Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:59:23am |
re: #331 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I’m sorry, that’s the example that summarizes my problems with the Tea Party. They are turning so many people against a few people because of there religion.
| 349 |
darthstar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:59:26am |
re: #339 Walter L. Newton
Please see my message above. This relationship with Huntsman goes way, way back, they are good friends and this was not spawned from some devious need for Beck to get PR out of this. Beck has been talking for 15 years or more about finding some way to honor and repay Huntsman’s generosity. I heard Beck talking about this guy before Beck went national.
So you and Beck go back a long way too…why doesn’t that surprise me?
| 350 |
Four More Tears Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:59:36am |
re: #346 McSpiff
You’re a horrible son.
| 351 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 8:59:42am |
re: #338 jaunte
That’s a great “Pot? Meet Kettle” moment, if there ever was one.
| 352 |
Four More Tears Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:00:01am |
re: #345 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Any of them who find a way to make it suit their needs will do it.
How many have?
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McSpiff Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:01:06am |
re: #345 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Any of them who find a way to make it suit their needs will do it.
Jeeze, that’s an “I read all of them!” answer if I ever heard one. If you don’t know, just say it.
| 354 |
reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:01:06am |
re: #349 darthstar
So you and Beck go back a long way too…why doesn’t that surprise me?
Walter?A Beck FAN??
….Your killin me!!LOL
| 355 |
Four More Tears Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:01:50am |
Is this a political rally or a revival?
| 356 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:01:51am |
re: #349 darthstar
So you and Beck go back a long way too…why doesn’t that surprise me?
Surprise… I don’t listen to BEck at all anymore. I stopped around the same time he hit Fox TV, barely watched him on CNN, since I saw he was going over the edge even then.
I did listen to him when he was a small time radio talking head, with only a couple of hundred stations syndicated.
But this guy went around the bend a long time ago, and I stopped respecting him a long time ago.
But, like I said above, you go have your little fantasy, don’t worry about facts, it’s easier.
| 358 |
simoom Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:02:16am |
This guy seems to have missed the “no sign” memo:
[Link: yfrog.com…]
America
Love It
Or Go Back To Kenya!
| 359 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:02:29am |
| 360 |
jaunte Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:02:34am |
re: #355 JasonA
It’s a ‘we have to make this a Christian nation again’ political rally.
| 361 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:02:38am |
re: #355 JasonA
Is this a political rally or a revival?
It was billed as a non-political rally, take your pick as to what you think it really is/isn’t.
| 362 |
reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:02:41am |
| 363 |
Varek Raith Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:02:43am |
FBV and Walter…
Glenn Beck fans?
Riiiggghhhtttt…
| 364 |
Guanxi88 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:02:44am |
In other Guadalupe County News:
Guanxi88 continues to lay the foundation for his eventual dominance of the bootleg tobacco and moonshine industries. Having rolled nearly 20 pounds of tobacco into carrottes for storage and maturation without succumbing to the nicotine contact-high, he is now finishing the final assembly of his fermentorium. Just fermented stuff for now, but comes the apocalypse, he’s got the copper worm and the know-how to start making white lightning.
(BTW - domestic, local sorghum molasses ferments wonderfully, making a very tasty little beverage all by itself, sorta like mead gone really dark.)
| 365 |
darthstar Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:02:54am |
re: #354 reloadingisnotahobby
Walter?A Beck FAN??
…Your killin me!!LOL
Well, he does have a number of personalities he uses here, so the fact that he’s familiar with Beck going back more than 15 years is totally unsurprising to me. But hey, it’s his life, he can like who he wants.
| 367 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:03:35am |
re: #365 darthstar
Well, he does have a number of personalities he uses here, so the fact that he’s familiar with Beck going back more than 15 years is totally unsurprising to me. But hey, it’s his life, he can like who he wants.
Are you familiar with Beck?
| 368 |
Guanxi88 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:03:39am |
re: #360 jaunte
It’s a ‘we have to make this a Christian nation again’ political rally.
That’s why he had the Rabbi up there earlier.
| 369 |
McSpiff Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:03:50am |
re: #359 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Not so much a Beck fan. Honestly.
Don’t hate Lib’s either. Really.
Apologies then. Just seemed like your back was really up over this. Hard to get tone off the internet I guess.
| 370 |
Four More Tears Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:03:54am |
Gotta run. Be nice to each other. Also, catch the pigs flying on video for me.
| 371 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:05:04am |
re: #369 McSpiff
Apologies then. Just seemed like your back was really up over this. Hard to get tone off the internet I guess.
I hate Beck. But, I can start hating some liberals when they make knee-jerk comments and stop dealing with facts.
| 372 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:05:08am |
re: #353 McSpiff
Jeeze, that’s an “I read all of them!” answer if I ever heard one. If you don’t know, just say it.
What I meant was… if Beck makes any money on this… expect to see others to hand out awards.
Things like… “The worst person in the world” awards.
Maybe Olbermann is the person who invented it.
| 373 |
McSpiff Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:05:10am |
re: #368 Guanxi88
That’s why he had the Rabbi up there earlier.
From Beck:
In a speech Friday night, Beck said he feels like “God dropped a giant sandbag on my head. My role is to wake America up onto the backsliding of principles and values most importantly of God. We are a country of God.”
Right, he meant Judaism. Un huh.
| 374 |
Stan the Demanded Plan Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:05:26am |
re: #360 jaunte
It’s a ‘we have to make this a Christian nation again’ political rally.
That’s what I’m getting out of it.
| 376 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:05:57am |
re: #374 Stanley Sea
That’s what I’m getting out of it.
That was the drift I got out of reading some of the PR about it.
| 378 |
Guanxi88 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:06:39am |
re: #373 McSpiff
From Beck:
Right, he meant Judaism. Un huh.
No one accused the Mormon of being a Jew, but he’s not out to establish some sorta theocratic state from the darkest fears of Think Progress, either.
| 379 |
reloadingisnotahobby Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:07:12am |
re: #377 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Will there be the “Laying on of hands”?…That freaks me out!!
| 380 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:07:45am |
re: #349 darthstar
So you and Beck go back a long way too…why doesn’t that surprise me?
Hey, I know a hell of a lot about Hitler too, probably over all more than most people… makes me a Nazi I guess.
Boo.
| 381 |
McSpiff Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:07:56am |
re: #371 Walter L. Newton
I hate Beck. But, I can start hating some liberals when they make knee-jerk comments and stop dealing with facts.
Well, I don’t blame Obama for the fact he won the peace prize. I do think it was crass of him to accept it. Same thing with accepting this Glenn Beck award. Same with this not being about religion. Beck said it was about bringing America back to God, and based on the last 5 years of listening to him, I don’t think he means any sort of generic God-like figure, I’m fairly confident he means his God. So where’s my knee-jerking?
| 382 |
McSpiff Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:09:27am |
re: #372 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What I meant was… if Beck makes any money on this… expect to see others to hand out awards.
Things like… “The worst person in the world” awards.
Maybe Olbermann is the person who invented it.
You’re right, others have given out awards in a tongue-in-check manner. I don’t think anyone actually thinks of Olbermann’s as a serious award. I didn’t get the impression that this was done with the same humor.
| 383 |
Guanxi88 Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:09:58am |
re: #379 reloadingisnotahobby
Will there be the “Laying on of hands”?…That freaks me out!!
Funny story - my mother, a jewbilly of the first water, was invited to one of those enthusiastic churches by a lady she knew from work. Being obliging, she went. Well, some guy “fell out” during prayers and started rolling and speaking in tongues. She rushed over to him and tried to stabilize him while yelling for someone to call an ambulance.
| 384 |
Gus Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:10:42am |
Glenn Beck. Another pop culture hero or reality TV show masquerading as a religion and frequently dabbling in conspiracy theories, revisionist history, race baiting, outright distortions, and so on.
| 386 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:12:01am |
re: #381 McSpiff
Well, I don’t blame Obama for the fact he won the peace prize. I do think it was crass of him to accept it. Same thing with accepting this Glenn Beck award. Same with this not being about religion. Beck said it was about bringing America back to God, and based on the last 5 years of listening to him, I don’t think he means any sort of generic God-like figure, I’m fairly confident he means his God. So where’s my knee-jerking?
I was referencing Darthstar, who jumped all over Huntsman before knowing anything about him. I wasn’t referring to you. If you feel I was, then you may want to reconsider any of your statements above, sort of projecting a bit there.
Anyway, I wasn’t referring to you.
| 387 |
reine.de.tout Sat, Aug 28, 2010 9:34:13am |
re: #113 Obdicut
Hey, Obdi - you make some good points.
Some of what I describe is what I actually observed.
Other parts of it - the Amtrak claim, for instance - I heard about before the storm, and again afterwards. And I’m basing my conclusions on my opinion that Nagin had every reason to distance himself from that incident (the offer was never made!); while Amtrak did not. Much of these sorts of things were a result of mass confusion in communications before, during and after the storm - and in the Frontline show I watched last night - there clearly is Nagin, the police chief, all sorts of officials, stating as TRUE, mere rumors they heard, and stoking the fires more with it. Massive incompetence at all levels of the city, beginning before the storm.
But there is a lot I did see, and had first-hand knowledge of; as well as conversations with people directly involved with the operations of various agencies including the gov’s office; frustrated employees, frustrated with the chaos that existed in that office.
| 388 |
Obdicut Sat, Aug 28, 2010 10:17:12am |
re: #387 reine.de.tout
Amtrak did have a reason to say they made the offer, even if they didn’t, though.
But my point wasn’t to argue about whether that’s true or not— Nagin’s a jackass, so it’s kind of moot.
I’m glad you felt I made some good points. I know how frustrating it is to try to communicate to others something real— like when DF said that San Francisco was an “Unamerican city”, the impossibility of conveying to him just how American San Francisco is.
But I just don’t want you taking it personally when people don’t automatically believe the things you’re passing on second-hand, from conversations. I think if you make a clear distinction between what you saw and what you heard, it’d help people understand what happened and, hopefully, cut down on the amount that you feel attacked.
Thanks for taking the time to read it.
| 389 |
elbruce Sat, Aug 28, 2010 4:24:11pm |
re: #222 cliffster
indeed. If you don’t like the long-term effect on the American consciousness, then I’d suggest you write a letter to all the democrats and all liberal journalists who collectively put forth their best effort to paint that picture. It was taking a bad situation and trying to make political capital out of it. Political opportunism at its worst. Disgusting.
What was really disgusting opportunism was the media showing trapped people trying to forage for abandoned supplies and branding them as “looters” and holding them up as what was really wrong with the situation. If every store in your neighborhood has been abandoned, with waist-deep floodwater forcing them to throw out all of their inventory when they get back anyways, it’s not like you can go purchase necessities to survive. But then to have you plastered all over FNC as some sort of hoodlum, as if you’re causing the problem, well that’s about as low as it gets.
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Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ...
Cheechako
1 weeks ago
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Alone in a Bathroom: The Fear and Uncertainty of a Post-Roe Medication Abortion Angel tucked two white pills into each side of her mouth, bracing herself as they began to dissolve. Her deepest fears and anxieties took over. Angel had wanted to talk to a doctor before she took the pills to ... Cheechako
2 weeks ago
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They Were Desperate to Get Pregnant. Then IVF Gave Them Extra Embryos. One morning last spring, Ashley Harrolle put her 1-year-old daughter down for a nap and went to the kitchen. She pulled up her fertility clinic’s contact information. It was time to make the call. In a freezer several hundred ... Cheechako
3 weeks ago
Views: 427 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1- Pictures From Today’s Exhibition of Paintings Done by Jane LilienthalPROPS TO MICHELE AND SAGEHEN FOR CATCHING THE SPELLING ERROR IN THE TITLE THAT MY DIABETIC EYES COULDN'T CATCH I wanted to share pictures of the art show I visited today. The portraits were created by the mother of my ...Joe Bacon ✅
3 weeks ago
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March FavoritesYou've seen these all already but looking back, just because. These are my favorite shots of this last month. That 1937 Zeiss Sonnar is such a gloriously wonderful bit of glass. Thanks for looking.
William Lewis
4 weeks ago
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Russia’s New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka When we landed on the moon, I thought about how science fiction had become real. Now, the robot wars have begun. It's more poignant somehow on the ground than in the missile wars we have in the air as ...
Rightwingconspirator
4 weeks ago
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Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... Cheechako
4 weeks ago
Views: 599 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 5- A Closer Look at the Eastman State Bar DecisionTaking a few minutes away from work things to read through the Eastman decision. As I'm sure many of you know, Eastman was my law school con law professor. I knew him pretty well because I was also running in ...KGxvi
4 weeks ago
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The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ... Cheechako
4 days ago
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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
2 weeks ago
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