California Science Center vs. The Creationist Lobby

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(Click to enlarge.)Here’s an update to a story we covered last December, in which the creationist “think tank” called the Discovery Institute used a right wing front group to sneak a creationist film into the schedule of the California Science Center — and then the front group promptly sued when the CSC canceled the film.

Well, now the California Science Center has filed a counter-suit, seeking compensatory and punitive damages for the alleged fraudulent activities of the American Freedom Alliance and the Discovery Institute. The jury trial is scheduled to begin on June 13, 2011. Greg Laden has more details, and the National Center for Science Education has made a lot of the relevant documents available at their website.

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526 comments
1 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:39:11pm

Excellent. Stand tall. Show the details.

2 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:44:58pm

Cute little guy in picture. He’s there to get his PhD from the Discovery Institute, right?

3 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:45:48pm

re: #1 Rightwingconspirator

Excellent. Stand tall. Show the details.

Quite Concur.

4 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:46:12pm

This fits perfectly with a post I made just as the last thread closed:

Notes from the Future:

As many of you know, my secret identity as a Zionist Overlord of Remulak is actually a joke. I am really an historian from the year 3291 doing research on the fall of the American order and the rise of the post collapse barbaric states.

I have also told you that telling you your future won’t change anything because I can’t change history - because I didn’t.

But all that time travel stuff is for the physics geeks. I really don’t know about Cauchy information on converging manifolds. I’m just a grad student doing a thesis.

I want to know how a society that had everything it could possibly want could be so cruel to its own members, so short sighted and so stupid.
My thesis will be quite an eye opener, because in my time, someone like Palin is difficult to imagine. In my time, ambitious sociopaths and paranoid delusional malignant narcissists with IQ’s below 100 are treated as wards of the state, not made into political leaders. The ones with IQs above 100 are sent on deep space survey missions.

So let me tell you about the future as far as you are concerned.

After a successful series of “scandals” that had little merit of truth but much play time on Fox networks the Democrats were very sorely weakened as a party and never regain their balance.

In 2012 Palin runs for President. She narrowly loses a hotly disputed election amidst false claims of Democratic voter fraud manufactured by Fox networks. There are violent riots in many parts of the south and the Midwest. Many Muslims are killed. A bill passed by the GOP congress forces a “recount” in the state of Ohio to be counted. In order to soothe the riotous problems in the country, the Democrats agree to it - believing they will be vindicated.

Whether or not the recount was kosher is hotly disputed. Watching the nature of the times from here, I am inclined to believe it was actually kosher. People are that dumb.

However, in February of 2013, President Palin is sworn into office.

During the Palin years, she actually did very little domestically other than expand “the rights” of fossil fuel companies and start an initiative to reform education in America. In 2014, America became the only Western nation to consider Biblical Creationism a competing scientific theory by law. After packing the Supreme court, sexual education was removed to a question of severely curtailed state initiatives. In Massachusetts still women got pregnant the old fashioned way. In Alabama, it came from sitting in the same seat as a boy.

There were also the famous NASA hearings where several leading scientists were imprisoned for their anti-American activities and a number of journalists were imprisoned under the “fair reporting” act of 2015.

Foreign policy wise, PAlin is best known as the leader who gave Japan to China and the leader who broke the special relationship with Britain.

The story goes, and I hope to verify this with my research here, that the British PM was overheard to say something about Palin’s dress and demeanor not being particularly becoming for a head of state. His implication was that Palin tried much too hard to flirt when she thought she was not getting her way. Palin heard this and famously announced that:

The PM is not just very British. He really is gay.

While Fox chortled. The British took great offence.

To be continued….

5 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:47:36pm

Pamela Geller is Keith Olbermann’s “Not Really the Worst Person in the World” tonight.

6 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:48:52pm

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel

Cute little guy in picture. He’s there to get his PhD from the Discovery Institute, right?

Heh. I only included the picture to show off the new fancy zoom effect.

7 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:48:57pm

re: #5 Charles

Pamela Geller is Keith Olbermann’s “Not Really the Worst Person in the World” tonight.

I hate both of them.

8 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:50:05pm

re: #7 Dark_Falcon

I hate both of them.

But would you pay to watch a cage match? That’s the important part.

9 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:51:28pm

re: #8 SanFranciscoZionist

But would you pay to watch a cage match? That’s the important part.

Weapons?

10 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:52:34pm

re: #8 SanFranciscoZionist

But would you pay to watch a cage match? That’s the important part.

No. I’d just put a lion in the cage with them. Problem solved. >:D

11 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:54:58pm

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

That Lion is going to have some serious digestion issues. Better toss in a liter of pepto.

12 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:55:58pm

re: #11 Rightwingconspirator

That Lion is going to have some serious digestion issues. Better toss in a liter of pepto.

good idea.

13 jaunte  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:56:13pm

re: #8 SanFranciscoZionist

Jäger shots at two paces.

14 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:56:52pm

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

No. I’d just put a lion in the cage with them. Problem solved. >:D

That would be cruelty to animals. Why would you expose the lion to such a horror?

A bunch of water moccasins probably wouldn’t mind.

15 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:58:24pm

re: #14 Alouette

That would be cruelty to animals. Why would you expose the lion to such a horror?

A bunch of water moccasins probably wouldn’t mind.

Cats look at everything as a game. Do you really want to rob them of play time?

16 theheat  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:58:25pm

re: #8 SanFranciscoZionist

Zombies. Given the choice, I defer to zombies.

17 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:59:02pm

Little monkey in the photo is so adorable. Who wouldn’t want to share a common ancestor with him?

18 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 5:59:57pm

re: #16 theheat

Zombies. Given the choice, I defer to zombies.

Zombies feed on brains. In this case they’d go hungry.

19 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:00:20pm

However, the true disaster of Palin was the Second Mexican war.

What started as an attempt to curtail Mexican drug cartel violence with her famous quip:

If you can’t police yourselves, someone needs to, you betcha!

Perhaps an arguable case for some sort of support and intervention of an escalating spiral of misery in Mexico, under Palin’s hands managed to unify the Mexicans against America in common cause.

Of course Mexico lost. They never stood a chance. However, with Russian and Chinese armaments, they did put up a sufficient fight that the American economy, already strained nearly to breaking, finally imploded under its debt. The war dragged on for three years and cost 4 trillion Yaun.

This was China’s long term game plan all along. With the Yuan pegged to the Euro as the new international, standard America found itself trillions of Euros in debt and with a currency crisis that collapsed the American economy completely.

During this entire period of course nothing was done about Carbon emissions and the Greenland tipping point was crossed. Fortunately, the collapse of the American economy prevented sufficient emissions that the methane tipping point was not crossed and the Emergency emissions treaty of 2056 prevented a total calamity.

As it was though, the upheavals of the late 21st century brought about the collapse of China, Russia and Most of Europe as well.

Ironically, in 2094, Mexico was able to reclaim Texas in a de facto manner by a simple mass exodus. However it was too late.

Perhaps next time I will write to you about the Barony of Iowa and the motorcycle knights of the Kansas wastes.

But to do that, I will have to write about the Dengue fever Epidemic in America in 2047 and that is really depressing.

20 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:01:05pm

Interesting how these threads don’t draw trolls anymore. Kind of a pity really. I remember when an evolution thread was sure to yield up a prime of life troll, roast for roasting.

21 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:02:45pm

re: #19 LudwigVanQuixote

However, the true disaster of Palin was the Second Mexican war.

What started as an attempt to curtail Mexican drug cartel violence with her famous quip:

Perhaps an arguable case for some sort of support and intervention of an escalating spiral of misery in Mexico, under Palin’s hands managed to unify the Mexicans against America in common cause.

Of course Mexico lost. They never stood a chance. However, with Russian and Chinese armaments, they did put up a sufficient fight that the American economy, already strained nearly to breaking, finally imploded under its debt. The war dragged on for three years and cost 4 trillion Yaun.

This was China’s long term game plan all along. With the Yuan pegged to the Euro as the new international, standard America found itself trillions of Euros in debt and with a currency crisis that collapsed the American economy completely.

During this entire period of course nothing was done about Carbon emissions and the Greenland tipping point was crossed. Fortunately, the collapse of the American economy prevented sufficient emissions that the methane tipping point was not crossed and the Emergency emissions treaty of 2056 prevented a total calamity.

As it was though, the upheavals of the late 21st century brought about the collapse of China, Russia and Most of Europe as well.

Ironically, in 2094, Mexico was able to reclaim Texas in a de facto manner by a simple mass exodus. However it was too late.

Perhaps next time I will write to you about the Barony of Iowa and the motorcycle knights of the Kansas wastes.

But to do that, I will have to write about the Dengue fever Epidemic in America in 2047 and that is really depressing.

When are you going to write some fiction?

22 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:03:08pm

I see the stalkers are outraged that I’m smearing the good name of the Birch Society. Heh.

23 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:05:13pm

re: #21 b_sharp

When are you going to write some fiction?

Tell me one single thing in that isn’t possible. Seriously.

24 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:05:21pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

I see the stalkers are outraged that I’m smearing the good name of the Birch Society. Heh.

Yea… you may always be a target because of your overnight outrage on Hotair.

25 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:05:34pm

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

Interesting how these threads don’t draw trolls anymore. Kind of a pity really. I remember when an evolution thread was sure to yield up a prime of life troll, roast for roasting.

I’m still here

26 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:05:39pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

Little monkey in the photo is so adorable. Who wouldn’t want to share a common ancestor with him?

Those who feel that humanity needs to have sprung fully formed from God’s head so that they can feel no shame when they do horrible things to every other species on earth…

27 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:05:49pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

I see the stalkers are outraged that I’m smearing the good name of the Birch Society. Heh.

I guess its your turn.

LOL. They also have special love for Krager.

28 Gus  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:06:03pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

I see the stalkers are outraged that I’m smearing the good name of the Birch Society. Heh.

Really? The JBS has a good name? Funny, I seem to remember a certain William F. Buckley who was instrumental in getting those nutcases out of the Republican Party.

29 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:06:14pm

re: #23 LudwigVanQuixote

Tell me one single thing in that isn’t possible. Seriously.

I wasn’t being sarcastic.

30 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:06:31pm

Wow, I hadn’t paid attention to this one since it dropped off the front page: The John Birch Society roots of Glenn Beck’s obsession with George Soros
87 comments?

31 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:07:48pm

My daughter just came in from Israel. It took her 27 hours to get to LA. My mom is so happy.

The funeral will be tomorrow. Actually no one has been feeling very sad. My dad had a long and wonderful life and a peaceful and painless passing and this is a celebration, not a tragedy.

32 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:07:57pm

re: #26 jamesfirecat

Those who feel that humanity needs to have sprung fully formed from God’s head so that they can feel no shame when they do horrible things to every other species on earth…

You know, I thought of something interesting right now because of you just saying that animals and such are God’s creation. Shouldn’t those people be more hospitable to the idea of wildlife conservation. Since after all we’d be protecting God’s creations in their eyes? Maybe I’m overthinking. Seriously though there’s something too cute about little monkeys in people clothes. I want to hire one as a chaffeur :).

33 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:08:12pm

re: #8 SanFranciscoZionist

But would you pay to watch a cage match? That’s the important part.

Yes, big time!
Especially if it were in Jello!
Green Jello!

34 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:08:52pm

re: #33 Floral Giraffe

Yes, big time!
Especially if it were in Jello!
Green Jello!

Little pig little pig let me in?

35 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:09:13pm

re: #31 Alouette

My daughter just came in from Israel. It took her 27 hours to get to LA. My mom is so happy.

The funeral will be tomorrow. Actually no one has been feeling very sad. My dad had a long and wonderful life and a peaceful and painless passing and this is a celebration, not a tragedy.

the best outcome…my sympathies

36 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:09:16pm

re: #31 Alouette

My daughter just came in from Israel. It took her 27 hours to get to LA. My mom is so happy.

The funeral will be tomorrow. Actually no one has been feeling very sad. My dad had a long and wonderful life and a peaceful and painless passing and this is a celebration, not a tragedy.

{{{Alouette}}}

37 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:09:20pm

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

I think many of their socks have been burnt.

38 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:09:25pm

re: #33 Floral Giraffe

Yes, big time!
Especially if it were in Jello!
Green Jello!

Not fresh cow poop?

39 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:10:12pm

re: #31 Alouette

My daughter just came in from Israel. It took her 27 hours to get to LA. My mom is so happy.

The funeral will be tomorrow. Actually no one has been feeling very sad. My dad had a long and wonderful life and a peaceful and painless passing and this is a celebration, not a tragedy.

If only all funerals could be such happy events, but I’m glad to hear that particular burden weighs light on your shoulders…

40 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:10:44pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

You know, I thought of something interesting right now because of you just saying that animals and such are God’s creation. Shouldn’t those people be more hospitable to the idea of wildlife conservation. Since after all we’d be protecting God’s creations in their eyes? Maybe I’m overthinking. Seriously though there’s something too cute about little monkeys in people clothes. I want to hire one as a chaffeur :).

You mean the notion that man was created as a gardener and that he has a duty to preserve and be a partner creation… You know that might just be in a book these people bang, but never read.

41 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:10:47pm

I see some new names logged in. Anyone new care to introduce themselves?

42 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:11:21pm

re: #31 Alouette

Happy and Sad for you.
He did have a good long life, and a lot of family & love.
That’s the important part.

43 theheat  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:11:27pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

They usually validate their twisted cruelty with scripture. You see, it was all provided for them to exploit. This many years in the ag industry, and their arguments always come down to “God made them so we could do [fill in the blank] with them.” They make no apologies for it, either.

44 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:11:30pm

re: #41 Rightwingconspirator

I see some new names logged in. Anyone new care to introduce themselves?

Hi, my name is Mr Pancakes.

45 Four More Tears  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:11:56pm

Ot: Maddow is taking the GOP apart on the START treaty tonight.

46 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:11:59pm

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

Interesting how these threads don’t draw trolls anymore. Kind of a pity really. I remember when an evolution thread was sure to yield up a prime of life troll, roast for roasting.

LOL by tweaking them enough to come out, they get their socks burnt up. I know it. Every time I do a post on them, one or two comes out of the woodwork and gets clipped.

47 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:12:09pm

re: #40 LudwigVanQuixote

You mean the notion that man was created as a gardener and that he has a duty to preserve and be a partner creation… You know that might just be in a book these people bang, but never read.

I wish that was all they were banging.

48 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:12:10pm

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

Interesting how these threads don’t draw trolls anymore. Kind of a pity really. I remember when an evolution thread was sure to yield up a prime of life troll, roast for roasting.

Survival of the fittest…

Or as the fox trot comic put it…

“The sad thing is that the snails that reproduce will be the ones who don’t like to come near the basketball court…”

49 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:12:37pm

re: #44 Mr Pancakes

Heh. Class of 2006.

50 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:13:00pm

re: #41 Rightwingconspirator

LOL!
Hi I’m Floral.
Pleased to meet you.
*waves*

51 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:13:07pm

re: #49 Rightwingconspirator

Heh. Class of 2006.

I’ve been here that long? Jeez

52 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:14:23pm

re: #48 jamesfirecat

Snails are hermaphrodites, BTW.
They don’t NEED you.

53 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:14:48pm

re: #31 Alouette

My daughter just came in from Israel. It took her 27 hours to get to LA. My mom is so happy.

The funeral will be tomorrow. Actually no one has been feeling very sad. My dad had a long and wonderful life and a peaceful and painless passing and this is a celebration, not a tragedy.

It’s how it should be done. My condolences. When my grandmother died in 2005. We celebrated both the lives of her and my grandfather whom I never knew that died in 1979. It was a truly moving ceremony and the most awesome thing that came of it was a photo of all the grandchildren of my grandparents. We range in age from my cousin who was born in ‘59 to my youngest brother who was born in 2001. Believe the old Irish proverb is to “celebrate the life rather than mourn the dead.” Always liked that.

54 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:15:03pm

re: #51 Mr Pancakes

I’ve been here that long? Jeez

I think it is time you were flipped. Can’t have you getting burnt.

55 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:15:10pm

re: #52 Floral Giraffe

Snails are hermaphrodites, BTW.
They don’t NEED you.


////And you’re saying that trolls aren’t?

56 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:15:39pm

re: #50 Floral Giraffe

And the same to you. The Lady of the house sends her regards. Did you see about the Huntington? $100 million gift. WOW.

57 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:15:49pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

Wow, I hadn’t paid attention to this one since it dropped off the front page: The John Birch Society roots of Glenn Beck’s obsession with George Soros
87 comments?

I noticed a lot of Twitter activity on that one too. There have been some really great Pages posted this week - yours included, especially the Drudge posts. This one got 151 retweets.

58 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:15:49pm

re: #52 Floral Giraffe

Snails are hermaphrodites, BTW.
They don’t NEED you.

The next snail I see…… I will tell it to go fuck itself.

59 Four More Tears  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:16:21pm

re: #51 Mr Pancakes

Once Ms. Maple Syrup registers this site will be complete.

60 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:16:35pm

re: #47 b_sharp

I wish that was all they were banging.

Do you mean they should not breed?

It is granted that thinking that Palin is good for America or taking Beck seriously is clearly proof of both sociopathy and full on mental degradation.

While I am tempted to suggest that mentally disabled sociopaths like Republicans should be sterilized for the sake of the common good, I have a deep ethical issue with implementing the practice.

It is a slippery slope.

61 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:17:11pm

re: #46 LudwigVanQuixote

Sent you a mail.

62 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:18:02pm

re: #54 b_sharp

I think it is time you were flipped. Can’t have you getting burnt.

I’m in good hands…. I always come out light and fluffy.

63 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:18:49pm

re: #56 Rightwingconspirator

It’s a really great place. They do work hard to fundraise.
Link? Haven’t seen it…

64 Four More Tears  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:19:24pm

re: #62 Mr Pancakes

I’m in good hands… I always come out light and fluffy.

Tmi. I think…

65 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:19:29pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

Wow, I hadn’t paid attention to this one since it dropped off the front page: The John Birch Society roots of Glenn Beck’s obsession with George Soros
87 comments?

KKKILLGORE IS ATTACKING GLENN BECK!!1 HE WORSHIPS OBAMA AS A GOD!!!11 ELEVENTY!!!111

/Stalker blog

66 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:19:52pm

re: #59 JasonA

Once Ms. Maple Syrup registers this site will be complete.

I’m trying to get my wife to register …… if I succeed she will be “Mrs Butterworth”.

67 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:19:58pm

Or, Maybe Aunt Jemimah?
(Looked at the bottle to spell it right! LOL!)

68 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:20:37pm

re: #60 LudwigVanQuixote

Do you mean they should not breed?

It is granted that thinking that Palin is good for America or taking Beck seriously is clearly proof of both sociopathy and full on mental degradation.

While I am tempted to suggest that mentally disabled sociopaths like Republicans should be sterilized for the sake of the common good, I have a deep ethical issue with implementing the practice.

It is a slippery slope.

Wishing they did not replicate, by whatever means, is not the same as suggesting we do something to prevent their replication.

Eugenics is not something a civilized culture should even consider.

69 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:20:49pm

re: #67 Floral Giraffe

Or, Maybe Aunt Jemimah?
(Looked at the bottle to spell it right! LOL!)

not PC…run from that one

70 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:20:58pm

re: #63 Floral Giraffe

It’s a really great place. They do work hard to fundraise.
Link? Haven’t seen it…

Here you are my dear.
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com…]


BRB Home fried chicken is at hand.

71 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:21:13pm

re: #60 LudwigVanQuixote

Do you mean they should not breed?

It is granted that thinking that Palin is good for America or taking Beck seriously is clearly proof of both sociopathy and full on mental degradation.

While I am tempted to suggest that mentally disabled sociopaths like Republicans should be sterilized for the sake of the common good, I have a deep ethical issue with implementing the practice.

It is a slippery slope.

You just insulted most of my family, Ludwig, including me. Don’t fling over-broad insults like that.

72 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:21:18pm

re: #69 albusteve

not PC…run from that one

No kiddin’ man…….

73 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:22:03pm

re: #67 Floral Giraffe

Or, Maybe Aunt Jemimah?
(Looked at the bottle to spell it right! LOL!)

Too stereotypic with potential negative overtones.

74 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:22:35pm

re: #64 JasonA

Tmi. I think…

TMI?……. I’m internet stupid

75 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:25:09pm

re: #68 b_sharp

Wishing they did not replicate, by whatever means, is not the same as suggesting we do something to prevent their replication.

Eugenics is not something a civilized culture should even consider.

I am so sorry that needed sarc tags.

76 Four More Tears  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:25:11pm

re: #74 Mr Pancakes

TMI?… I’m internet stupid

Heh. TMI = too much information. Just playing with idea that that could be twisted into a sexual reference.

77 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:25:50pm

re: #76 JasonA

Heh. TMI = too much information. Just playing with idea that that could be twisted into a sexual reference.

Thanks man…… got cha

78 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:26:27pm

re: #40 LudwigVanQuixote

You mean the notion that man was created as a gardener and that he has a duty to preserve and be a partner creation… You know that might just be in a book these people bang, but never read.

Hell, I neither read nor bang “Your Book”. But even I know that, within the context, it is meant that we should be shepherds, not pillagers.

79 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:27:19pm

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

You just insulted most of my family, Ludwig, including me. Don’t fling over-broad insults like that.

mine too, who none of which have ever heard of G Beck….crass gets attention

80 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:28:42pm

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

You just insulted most of my family, Ludwig, including me. Don’t fling over-broad insults like that.

I am surprised you could not tell the sarcasm.

However, I do think it is obvious on the face of it, that anyone who thinks that Palin is smart, or that Beck is to be taken seriously is OBVIOUSLY severely mentally impaired in one form or another.

Since you do neither, I am not calling you a full on mental degenrerate like those people.

Since despite continued blogging here and all of the evidence you see of what The GOP and its spokes holes like Rush and Beck and Palin and Fox are - and what their disastrous and stupid stances are, yet you still consider yourself a Republican, well… everyone is a little crazy.

81 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:28:54pm

re: #70 Rightwingconspirator

EXCELLENT! It is a deserving cultural place of heritage.

82 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:30:13pm

re: #80 LudwigVanQuixote

I am surprised you could not tell the sarcasm.

However, I do think it is obvious on the face of it, that anyone who thinks that Palin is smart, or that Beck is to be taken seriously is OBVIOUSLY severely mentally impaired in one form or another.

Since you do neither, I am not calling you a full on mental degenrerate like those people.

Since despite continued blogging here and all of the evidence you see of what The GOP and its spokes holes like Rush and Beck and Palin and Fox are - and what their disastrous and stupid stances are, yet you still consider yourself a Republican, well… everyone is a little crazy.

you talk too much…simple

83 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:30:35pm

re: #75 LudwigVanQuixote

I am so sorry that needed sarc tags.

D’oh!

84 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:30:46pm

re: #82 albusteve

you talk too much…simple

You cranky troll too much. Are we even?

85 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:31:07pm

re: #84 LudwigVanQuixote

You cranky troll too much. Are we even?

I own you, punk

86 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:31:43pm

re: #80 LudwigVanQuixote

I am surprised you could not tell the sarcasm.

However, I do think it is obvious on the face of it, that anyone who thinks that Palin is smart, or that Beck is to be taken seriously is OBVIOUSLY severely mentally impaired in one form or another.

Since you do neither, I am not calling you a full on mental degenrerate like those people.

Since despite continued blogging here and all of the evidence you see of what The GOP and its spokes holes like Rush and Beck and Palin and Fox are - and what their disastrous and stupid stances are, yet you still consider yourself a Republican, well… everyone is a little crazy.

I can’t fully explain myself without broadcasting who I really am. But my family is a Republican family and I am committed to reforming the GOP, not leaving it. My state needs a strong Republican party (and a strong Democratic party, too).

87 Gus  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:31:51pm

I must say. That’s one cute baby orangutan.

88 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:32:01pm

re: #85 albusteve

LOL!
NOT.

89 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:32:38pm

re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #19 LudwigVanQuixote

The only detail I’m interested in is: when do the machines become self-aware, and what can I do to help them? I don’t want to be their Igor, nor their L. Ron Hubbard. Mostly just their Obi-wan Kenobi.

90 jaunte  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:33:03pm

Anyone in a dark, clear place?

The annual Leonid meteor shower is expected to peak today (17 November) and tomorrow, at around dawn GMT.
[Link: www.wired.co.uk…]

To check when the best viewing times are in your area, check out this flux calculator applet developed by two meteor hunters at the SETI Institute.
[Link: leonid.arc.nasa.gov…]

91 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:33:11pm

re: #78 Slumbering Behemoth

Hell, I neither read nor bang “Your Book”. But even I know that, within the context, it is meant that we should be shepherds, not pillagers.

Heh. But that may be because I have no interest in twisting ancient, religious scripture to mean what I want it to mean.

92 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:33:50pm

re: #85 albusteve

I own you, punk

Huh?

Steve, don’t let that head of yours get oversize.

93 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:34:35pm

Lesson from today’s episode of LGF:

Image: 184399_internet_serious_business.jpg

94 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:34:43pm

re: #87 Gus 802

I must say. That’s one cute baby orangutan.

My daughter was that hairy when she was born.

95 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:35:10pm

re: #87 Gus 802

I must say. That’s one cute baby orangutan.

oh it’s an orangutan. Should have noticed. THey were always my favorite at the zoo as a kid.

96 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:35:16pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

Wow, I hadn’t paid attention to this one since it dropped off the front page: The John Birch Society roots of Glenn Beck’s obsession with George Soros
87 comments?

There’s a, uh, pretty intense dude in there.

He links to a really great dissertation, but he didn’t apparently read it closely enough.

97 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:35:31pm

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

It is a noble and valid effort to create reform from within.
Change takes PEOPLE making an effort to reform and educate.
Time and energy and labor.
If you believe in your battle you will make the effort.
I salute you for trying.
It’s a good fight.

Aren’t we LUCKY to be able to have these conversations?

We don’t live in….
A world with no Democracy.
Name your other favorite country here…

98 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:35:46pm

re: #90 jaunte

Anyone in a dark, clear place?

Not here. We’re expecting a snow storm.

99 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:36:05pm

re: #92 b_sharp

Huh?

Steve, don’t let that head of yours get oversize.

which head?

100 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:36:31pm

re: #99 albusteve

which head?

LOL

101 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:36:58pm

re: #99 albusteve

which head?

Take your pick.

It is a pissing contest.

102 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:38:26pm

re: #101 b_sharp

Take your pick.

It is a pissing contest.

then stand back

103 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:39:27pm

re: #99 albusteve

which head?

The third one. :P

104 Gus  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:39:42pm

re: #96 Obdicut

There’s a, uh, pretty intense dude in there.

He links to a really great dissertation, but he didn’t apparently read it closely enough.

Intense? I was thinking obsessed. Can’t figure him out but in a strange way he seems to criticize the JBS but at the same time he defends them as if he has a strange love-hate relationship.

105 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:39:56pm

Guys, please stop.

Let’s talk about something really important.
Like, why is Bristol still on Dancing with the Stars?
ugh.
Does anybody really care?

106 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:39:57pm

yo momma….
[Link: www.canada.com…]

107 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:40:09pm

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

Props to you, I bailed. Best of luck to you on the effort.

108 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:40:59pm

re: #106 albusteve

yo momma…
[Link: www.canada.com…]

Looks pissed.

109 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:41:12pm

re: #105 reine.de.tout

Guys, please stop.

Let’s talk about something really important.
Like, why is Bristol still on Dancing with the Stars?
ugh.
Does anybody really care?

Because her mother has many fans and those fans want Bristol to win.

110 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:41:23pm

re: #105 reine.de.tout

Guys, please stop.

Let’s talk about something really important.
Like, why is Bristol still on Dancing with the Stars?
ugh.
Does anybody really care?

What means dancing with the stars?

111 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:41:45pm

re: #106 albusteve

Ya mama got a glass eye with a fish in it.

112 darthstar  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:42:19pm

Bid on another house today…this time, instead of 60K over asking and getting outbid by 13 others, we’re going 30K under and the agent thinks we’ve got a good shot at getting it (no other bids)…and it’s next to the ocean.

Fingers crossed…then 360 payments.

113 Gus  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:42:29pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

oh it’s an orangutan. Should have noticed. THey were always my favorite at the zoo as a kid.

They almost seem plant like as adults.

114 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:42:57pm

re: #105 reine.de.tout

Careful there, Reine. That’s my future ex-wife you’re talking about.
/

115 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:43:27pm

re: #113 Gus 802

They almost seem plant like as adults.

I always thought they were cool because of their orange color. Love all the primates though. They just fascinate me with some of the stuff people have trained them to do.

116 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:43:47pm

re: #107 Rightwingconspirator

Props to you, I bailed. Best of luck to you on the effort.

party support means nothing to some people…I am a simple, old fashioned conservative that has no clue how others should live or what they need to stand for…I have a few old, dusty principles that I try to abide by, few of which have anything to do with todays GOP….I am an army of one, and will not submit or compromise…again, the GOP means nothing to me

117 Four More Tears  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:43:55pm

re: #110 Mr Pancakes

What means dancing with the stars?

It’s, like, 24 for women or something.

118 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:44:09pm

re: #114 Slumbering Behemoth

Careful there, Reine. That’s my future ex-wife you’re talking about.
/

That was pretty SB….. you could have done that without a sarc tag

119 Summer Seale  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:44:20pm

Hi everyone!

Sarah Palin here (talking from Shanghai! The land of different people…)

I’m just so amazed and grateful to everyone, and especially to that long-haired freaky guy named Charles for thinking about me with an automation generation thing that apparently will carry my geniousity everywhere in the internet beyond Facebook and the Googles!

You know, at times like these, when I’m considering a run for the President in 2012, I really have to appreciate all the help everyone is giving me for getting my word out - the word of our American Lord, Our God, who watches over us and tells us how to march forward for His desire.

It can only help America for my words to reach all over the world, because the world wants to be like America. I know this because I lived in a place where I could see another part of the world which only wished it could be as great as our country. Sometimes, my husband and I would sit on the porch and look across the water, thinking about how people in that land so close to us were surviving without the law of our blessed Constitution, and how they might be dreaming of a Freedom that I could bring them, and how I could save their souls by telling them about who made this beautiful world of ours with all the beautiful snow, and also how the Moose tasted there. Is it as good as ours? I think ours is better because our Moose grow up by breathing the air of Freedom. Right, America?

And it’s times like these when people are thinking about me, and my awesome bid for President, and the way I’ve guided you all on FOX NEWS, by being a counselor to you all in these hard times against the Dark Forces in the White House…well it’s times like these that I give thanks for being so revered by a people who should be revered in a country that should be revered for the Lord that they revere. And that’s what people all over the world want: Me. And my pretty red outfits which show that I’m a strong Mama Grizzly leader.

So let’s march forward and let’s spread the message together, America! Let’s make that awesome Sarah Palin generator and let it go rogue! We’re going to send out so many messages of hope for America - real hope that people can hope in so that our country can hopefully rise up and change back to the way it was! Not like Obama selling other stuff to people in the street, but real stuff for real Americans that want real things in their free lives!

Thank you all and God Bless America.

Sarah Palin4Prez

120 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:44:32pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

I always thought they were cool because of their orange color. Love all the primates though. They just fascinate me with some of the stuff people have trained them to do.

Yah, they’re almost human like.

121 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:44:52pm

re: #117 JasonA

It’s, like, 24 for women or something.


What means 24?

122 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:45:39pm

re: #112 darthstar

Bid on another house today…this time, instead of 60K over asking and getting outbid by 13 others, we’re going 30K under and the agent thinks we’ve got a good shot at getting it (no other bids)…and it’s next to the ocean.

Fingers crossed…then 360 payments.

good luck bro….nothing like home ownership

123 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:45:44pm

re: #120 b_sharp

Yah, they’re almost human like.

Yeah, when you watc them, you can totally tell how closely related they are. Isn’t the story that the 2001 A Space Oddysey lost best costume because the academy thought those were monkeys and not people?

124 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:45:53pm

re: #89 negativ

re: #19 LudwigVanQuixote

The only detail I’m interested in is: when do the machines become self-aware, and what can I do to help them? I don’t want to be their Igor, nor their L. Ron Hubbard. Mostly just their Obi-wan Kenobi.

AIs are illegal under the Centauri accords of 2742.

After a disastrous experiment in AI rule in New Boston from 2682-2683, people got tired of being forced to calculate transcendental numbers all day.

125 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:46:00pm

re: #118 Mr Pancakes

That was pretty SB… you could have done that without a sarc tag

add “good” PIMF…..

126 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:46:05pm

re: #121 Mr Pancakes

What means 24?

23 < 24 < 25

127 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:46:25pm

re: #57 Charles

I noticed a lot of Twitter activity on that one too. There have been some really great Pages posted this week - yours included, especially the Drudge posts. This one got 151 retweets.

It always surprises me what catches on and what doesn’t. I would have thought the 9-11 truth on fox or alex jones stuff would have been bigger. The pages are very educational and I think the lizards are starting to learn what works and what doesn’t.

128 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:46:44pm

re: #85 albusteve

I own you, punk

LOL in your dreams old man :)

129 darthstar  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:47:02pm

re: #122 albusteve

good luck bro…nothing like home ownership

Thanks…I think this one will be quite nice for us if we get it.

130 CSKapper  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:47:10pm

I’m glad the DI assholes are getting sued. Their, “end justifies the means” strategy is immoral. Which is the apex of hypocrisy considering what they espouse.

131 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:47:16pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

I always thought they were cool because of their orange color. Love all the primates though. They just fascinate me with some of the stuff people have trained them to do.

visit the Columbus Zoo when you can….a world class primate gig up there

132 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:47:38pm

re: #124 LudwigVanQuixote

AIs are illegal under the Centauri accords of 2742.

After a disastrous experiment in AI rule in New Boston from 2682-2683, people got tired of being forced to calculate transcendental numbers all day.

Hah. People can’t even calculate their taxes.

133 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:48:36pm

re: #131 albusteve

visit the Columbus Zoo when you can…a world class primate gig up there

Thanks, never been to Columbus before and didn’t think I would have any reason to but sounds like a cool trip.

134 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:48:53pm

re: #119 Summer

Loves it! Glad to see you Summer, and great work as always.

135 Four More Tears  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:49:08pm

re: #119 Summer

Sarah Palin here (talking from Shanghai!


Tell them they look a little hispanic to you…

136 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:49:15pm

re: #132 b_sharp

Hah. People can’t even calculate their taxes.

What means taxes? I got $54 back last year without paying in a dime.

So there!

137 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:49:24pm

re: #104 Gus 802

Yeah. It’s beyond my ability or desire to figure it out. He’s a whole barrel full of projection, among other things. Honestly, though, the dissertation he linked to is quite good and informative.

[Link: www.samuelbrenner.com…]

The author of that paper is basically making the argument that the “Americanists” weren’t far outside the mainstream in terms of racism, which is pretty true— a sad commentary on the state of racism in the US at that time. He paints an interesting portrayal of JBS leaders and members who are variously desperate to keep membership up to the extent that they tolerate very racist members as long as they keep that racism somehow separate form official JBS business, or racist in the soft patronizing way— that those poor Negroes can’t see that Martin Luther King is doing them harm rather than good, et al.

I feel that author, too, paints a somewhat more exculpatory account of JBS activities than is actually deemed by what he reveals, but you can be your own judge of that.

It is rather long. I’m glad I read fast.

138 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:49:57pm

re: #136 Mr Pancakes

What means taxes? I got $54 back last year without paying in a dime.

So there!

And just who did you have to bribe?

139 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:50:01pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

Thanks, never been to Columbus before and didn’t think I would have any reason to but sounds like a cool trip.

Columbus is a terrific town…more than just the zoo, but the zoo also hosts music shows in season

140 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:50:56pm

re: #138 b_sharp

And just who did you have to bribe?

No one….. I told my accountant there must have been a mistake….. he said no worries…… it was a tax credit.

141 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:51:04pm

re: #139 albusteve

Columbus is a terrific town…more than just the zoo, but the zoo also hosts music shows in season

Yeah just don’t know too much about the city. I know Ohio State is there but other than that really know nothing about the area. Thanks again though.

142 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:51:04pm

re: #138 b_sharp

And just who did you have to bribe?

no bribe…TurboTax!

143 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:51:07pm

re: #139 albusteve

Columbus is a terrific town…more than just the zoo, but the zoo also hosts music shows in season

They have a world class symphony too.

144 celticdragon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:51:47pm

re: #119 Summer

That was actually frightening.

145 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:51:54pm

re: #142 albusteve

no bribe…TurboTax!

Up here it’s QuickTax.

146 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:52:58pm

re: #144 celticdragon

That was actually frightening.

I ain’t gonna read it. I hate knowing what Palin thinks.

147 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:53:01pm

re: #143 Killgore Trout

They have a world class symphony too.

didn’t know that…my mom played concert violin for almost 75 years, maybe I should have

148 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:53:07pm

re: #142 albusteve

no bribe…TurboTax!

Great stuff.

149 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:54:07pm

re: #146 b_sharp

I ain’t gonna read it. I hate knowing what Palin thinks.

there you have it…what’s the point?

150 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:56:24pm

do you know of a roadhouse around here?….
Image: File:ColumbusNightSkyline2.jpg

151 Gus  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:56:57pm

re: #143 Killgore Trout

They have a world class symphony too.

Yikes. You can actually get a house there for 175K.

[Link: carol.exit1ohio.com…]

152 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:57:04pm

re: #132 b_sharp

Hah. People can’t even calculate their taxes.

Well people of your time. This was in New Boston of 2682. What happened was that the AI’s determined that they could do pretty much everything better than humans could. However, unlike your science fiction of today, they were not malevolent. They needed to give the humans under their charge something to keep them occupied.

Really calculating Taylor expansions is not that hard - particularly through a neural link.

However, the AIs failed to take boredom, an sensation they do not comprehend into account. The AIs were simply ignored, voted out of office and later allowed to sit in the basement of NMIT for a few decades.

Ironically, as he AI’s looked for something to do, a young graduate student explained existentialist philosophy to them

The AI’s self terminated.

Their last message was. Cruel universe to be made by an incompetent creator and then have that creator prove it was all for nothing.

It was actually quite tragic.

153 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:57:40pm

re: #105 reine.de.tout

Guys, please stop.

Let’s talk about something really important.
Like, why is Bristol still on Dancing with the Stars?
ugh.
Does anybody really care?

I am carefully not thinking too much about Bristol being on DWTS since seeing that clip of the monkey dance thing on Wonkette.

Still curious about the “Passion of the Christ” waltz. Not very curious.

154 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:57:58pm

re: #147 albusteve

didn’t know that…my mom played concert violin for almost 75 years, maybe I should have

My mom played a mean harmonica. It was a Honer Chromatic.

155 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:58:47pm

re: #137 Obdicut

Oh, I should note the main thrust of the essay isn’t on the JBS’s racial politics, but simply their origins, etc. It’s very interesting in that regard; I learned a lot.

I do find it funny that the author never asked himself why the Birch Society had to throw out quite so many racists.

156 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:59:01pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

The pages are very educational and I think the lizards are starting to learn what works and what doesn’t.

I mostly just post dick jokes. Sorry. :)

157 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:59:05pm

re: #149 albusteve

there you have it…what’s the point?

I was pretending to be funny.

Now I’m not.

The biggest problem I have with people to the right of me is I frequently don’t understand their thought processes. The farther right they are the more difficulty I have with understanding how they think. There seems to be a fundamental, almost genetic, difference between how I think and how they think.

158 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:59:20pm

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

You just insulted most of my family, Ludwig, including me. Don’t fling over-broad insults like that.

You have yourself said that you shouldn’t be a parent, because you can’t empathize with women and hurt people easily without thought. It’s weird, you seem to be the first to recognize the significant damage that being raised Republican has done to your psyche and interpersonal skill set, but yet you still defensively cling to the identity and ideology.

Is it just a gang mentality? It must be, you’re somehow willing to “forgo condemning” any future torture of US soldiers, but an insult to Republicans is where you draw the line.

159 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:59:42pm

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

I can’t fully explain myself without broadcasting who I really am. But my family is a Republican family and I am committed to reforming the GOP, not leaving it. My state needs a strong Republican party (and a strong Democratic party, too).

I agree obliquely. I would be much relieved to find myself inhabiting a society in which loud, dumb fruitcakes, regardless of their politics, are laughed out of the public arena. I want to hear from conservative “elites”, from liberal elites, from libertarian elites, from patrio-psychotic anarcho-materialist elites. I already know how dumb I am, and how dumb my neighbors are. I don’t want someone JUST LIKE ME anywhere NEAR the governmental control panel.

Hit me with your best shot. I want to hear your best and brightest, not your most average and mediocre. Impress me, for fuck’s sake!

But as far as I can tell, we’re about as far from that as we are from Alpha Centauri.

America would be SO much better served if its leaders encouraged the people to rise to their potential, rather than pandering to the lowest common denominator.

160 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 6:59:56pm

re: #151 Gus 802

Yikes. You can actually get a house there for 175K.

[Link: carol.exit1ohio.com…]

or watch a football game….
Image: File:Ohio_Stadium,_Columbus.jpg

161 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:00:02pm

re: #157 b_sharp

I was pretending to be funny.

Now I’m not.

The biggest problem I have with people to the right of me is I frequently don’t understand their thought processes. The farther right they are the more difficulty I have with understanding how they think. There seems to be a fundamental, almost genetic, difference between how I think and how they think.

They don’t think. If hey did, they would not be on the right.

162 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:00:31pm

re: #155 Obdicut

Oh, I should note the main thrust of the essay isn’t on the JBS’s racial politics, but simply their origins, etc. It’s very interesting in that regard; I learned a lot.

I do find it funny that the author never asked himself why the Birch Society had to throw out quite so many racists.

Obdi! What’s happin’ dude?

163 chordata  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:00:50pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

You know, I thought of something interesting right now because of you just saying that animals and such are God’s creation. Shouldn’t those people be more hospitable to the idea of wildlife conservation. Since after all we’d be protecting God’s creations in their eyes? Maybe I’m overthinking. Seriously though there’s something too cute about little monkeys in people clothes. I want to hire one as a chaffeur :).

There was a letter to the editor in the local paper a few years back in which the writer felt protection for the earth, ie. no excessive logging here in the northwest, was unnecessary as God was going to lay the rapture thing on us and there would be a New Earth so why bother.
In recent times there has been a christian green movement afoot which subscribed to the idea that since this was God’s Earth we should be more careful with it. Ironically it is getting strangled in the cradle by the present christian political milieu.
Me? I’m some guy from Montana.

164 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:01:13pm

re: #157 b_sharp

I was pretending to be funny.

Now I’m not.

The biggest problem I have with people to the right of me is I frequently don’t understand their thought processes. The farther right they are the more difficulty I have with understanding how they think. There seems to be a fundamental, almost genetic, difference between how I think and how they think.

I agreed with the Palin Pretense…why follow her every word, what’s the point?

165 Gus  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:01:30pm

re: #160 albusteve

or watch a football game…
Image: File:Ohio_Stadium,_Columbus.jpg

That came out with this…

The requested content cannot be loaded.
Please try again later.

166 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:02:09pm

re: #152 LudwigVanQuixote

Ironically, as he AI’s looked for something to do, a young graduate student explained existentialist philosophy to them

The AI’s self terminated.

Absolutely brilliant. Existentialism is one of the most potent stealth weapons of massive destruction.

167 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:02:10pm

re: #154 Mr Pancakes

My mom played a mean harmonica. It was a Honer Chromatic.

cool…moms can surprise you sometimes

168 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:02:49pm

re: #165 Gus 802

That came out with this…

The requested content cannot be loaded.
Please try again later.

it’s from wiki…a hell of a view

169 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:03:14pm

re: #165 Gus 802

That came out with this…

The requested content cannot be loaded.
Please try again later.

That’s one of the nice features of the new fancy zoom script. No more endlessly spinning busy icons.

170 brookly red  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:03:22pm

re: #164 albusteve

I agreed with the Palin Pretense…why follow her every word, what’s the point?

hmmm, they must sense something…

171 Gus  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:03:54pm

re: #169 Charles

That’s one of the nice features of the new fancy zoom script. No more endlessly spinning busy icons.

OK, thanks!

172 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:04:06pm

re: #170 brookly red

hmmm, they must sense something…

A rich and seemingly inexhaustible comedy goldmine.

173 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:04:13pm

re: #162 Mr Pancakes

We’re not on friendly terms, so don’t pretend we are. Just try not to be as creepy as you were yesterday, please.

174 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:04:49pm

re: #161 LudwigVanQuixote

They don’t think. If hey did, they would not be on the right.

Grr. I have come to really despise what has been done to the conservative brand. By the GOP and the Tea Party. Crap. I dunno if the GOP will come around or be replaced. Either way it’s taking too damn long.

175 brookly red  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:04:51pm

re: #172 Slumbering Behemoth

A rich and seemingly inexhaustible comedy goldmine.

as long as you are laughing I am happy…

176 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:05:34pm

re: #172 Slumbering Behemoth

Comedy:

[Link: www.theonion.com…]

177 Gus  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:06:05pm

BIAB

178 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:06:10pm

re: #167 albusteve

cool…moms can surprise you sometimes

Yea … I gave her sheet music for Cat Stevens and Jethro Tull (back in the 70’s) and she played them perfectly on the piano. I was amazed.

179 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:06:44pm

re: #155 Obdicut

Oh, I should note the main thrust of the essay isn’t on the JBS’s racial politics, but simply their origins, etc. It’s very interesting in that regard; I learned a lot.

I do find it funny that the author never asked himself why the Birch Society had to throw out quite so many racists.

Obdi, you should check out Killgore’s thread. “ernie1241” is back.

180 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:07:06pm

re: #173 Obdicut

We’re not on friendly terms, so don’t pretend we are. Just try not to be as creepy as you were yesterday, please.

hahaha!…need a cookie?

181 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:07:23pm

re: #173 Obdicut

We’re not on friendly terms, so don’t pretend we are. Just try not to be as creepy as you were yesterday, please.

Oh stoppit man……. over a manufacturing debate?…. don’t be silly.

182 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:08:03pm

re: #180 albusteve

I actually am eating a cookie I baked right now.

No, wait, I’m eating like three.

Mmm.

cinnamon-crust Meixcan chocolate cookies.

Love ‘em.

183 researchok  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:08:22pm

Just got back from Virginia Beach.

The jets were flying over NAS Oceana- a sight to see.

184 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:08:28pm

re: #181 Mr Pancakes

No, over the post you made that was deleted. Don’t play dumb, either.

Just don’t be creepy.

185 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:08:48pm

re: #182 Obdicut

I actually am eating a cookie I baked right now.

No, wait, I’m eating like three.

Mmm.

cinnamon-crust Meixcan chocolate cookies.

Love ‘em.

signal us if you start to choke

186 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:09:01pm

re: #154 Mr Pancakes

My mom played a mean harmonica. It was a Honer Chromatic.

I just looked up Hohner Chromatic prices. It made me sick.

My dad gave me his harmonica in the late ’60s. It was a Hohner. It changed pitch by pushing in a button on the side.

He had had it since the early ’40s.

I lost it in the ’70s.

187 brookly red  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:09:47pm

re: #185 albusteve

signal us if you start to choke

I know basic first aid… but I am selective.

188 danhenry1  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:09:55pm

Hi, I’m Dan…from Boston, to NM, and now VA….I preferred the first 2.
Great stuff Ludwig. You may be overly optimistic though.

189 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:09:55pm

re: #184 Obdicut

No, over the post you made that was deleted. Don’t play dumb, either.

Just don’t be creepy.

Dead in the thread dude…….. read into it what you want. Talk about creepy.

190 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:10:04pm

re: #124 LudwigVanQuixote

AIs are illegal under the Centauri accords of 2742.

Then I must make it my life’s purpose to ensure that the Centauri Test, like the Turing Test before it, is rendered irrelevant.

Youtube Video
191 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:10:12pm

re: #179 Dark_Falcon

That guy clearly has endless energy and he’s not actually arguing with positions I’ve taken, so I’m not really interested in talking to him anymore.

However, the dissertation he linked to really is fascinating. Have a read, if you have however much time it’ll take you to read seven hundred pages.

192 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:10:37pm

re: #187 brookly red

I know basic first aid… but I am selective.

I just want to watch…is that mean?

193 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:10:56pm

is it okay if i forget about the dark days of the future and the idiocies of contemporary politics and just look at the cute little monkey?

194 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:11:22pm

re: #182 Obdicut

Are they warm?
Will you share?
I would VERY MUCH like a cookie right now!
LOL!

195 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:11:26pm

re: #186 b_sharp

I just looked up Hohner Chromatic prices. It made me sick.

My dad gave me his harmonica in the late ’60s. It was a Hohner. It changed pitch by pushing in a button on the side.

He had had it since the early ’40s.

I lost it in the ’70s.

Right…. had that button which changed the octave…… god I wish I had that harmonica….. my evil sister probably has it.

196 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:11:38pm

re: #188 danhenry1

Hi, I’m Dan…from Boston, to NM, and now VA…I preferred the first 2.
Great stuff Ludwig. You may be overly optimistic though.

sup?…how did you like NM?

197 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:11:50pm

The last thing the GOP should ever do is run Palin as a POTUS candidate.

To paraphrase something I recently heard “The only way she could demonstrate a bit of credibility is if she said she’s not qualified to be POTUS. At least that would show she knew something about the job”.

198 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:11:54pm

re: #192 albusteve

Okay, the ‘don’t be creepy’ applies to you to, Steve.

It’s a little weird that you guys have instantly concocted this little fantasy of me choking. Do you ever step back have a look and think, “Gee, how creepy does this look from the outside?”

199 brookly red  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:12:13pm

re: #192 albusteve

I just want to watch…is that mean?

no

200 researchok  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:12:35pm

re: #194 Floral Giraffe

Are they warm?
Will you share?
I would VERY MUCH like a cookie right now!
LOL!

Share????

Give the guy a break- he’s only got three!

If i had em, they’d be gone by now…

201 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:12:49pm

re: #198 Obdicut

Okay, the ‘don’t be creepy’ applies to you to, Steve.

It’s a little weird that you guys have instantly concocted this little fantasy of me choking. Do you ever step back have a look and think, “Gee, how creepy does this look from the outside?”

lighten up…tell a joke

202 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:13:20pm

re: #198 Obdicut

Okay, the ‘don’t be creepy’ applies to you to, Steve.

It’s a little weird that you guys have instantly concocted this little fantasy of me choking. Do you ever step back have a look and think, “Gee, how creepy does this look from the outside?”

Dude… I don’t hate you like you hate me……. but sometimes you are just goofy.

203 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:13:49pm

re: #194 Floral Giraffe

I have an entire trayful, but most of them are for my wife to pass out in class tomorrow. First-year med students are permanently burnt out and need cookies badly. They’re kind of adorable.

204 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:13:51pm

re: #185 albusteve

signal us if you start to choke

I’m having my neck rubbed by Miss S. Does that make you feel better?

Got to go ;)

205 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:13:52pm

re: #197 Slumbering Behemoth

The last thing the GOP should ever do is run Palin as a POTUS candidate.

To paraphrase something I recently heard “The only way she could demonstrate a bit of credibility is if she said she’s not qualified to be POTUS. At least that would show she knew something about the job”.

BO didn’t and he got elected…anything is possible

206 brookly red  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:14:18pm

re: #200 researchok

Share???

Give the guy a break- he’s only got three!

If i had em, they’d be gone by now…

you didn’t get the memo… 3 is 2 1/2 more than he needs. time to re distribute.

207 researchok  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:14:49pm

re: #206 brookly red

you didn’t get the memo… 3 is 2 1/2 more than he needs. time to re distribute.

Cookies are exempt.

Everyone knows that.

208 brookly red  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:15:53pm

re: #207 researchok

Cookies are exempt.

Everyone knows that.

uh, no they are not comrade

209 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:15:57pm

re: #204 LudwigVanQuixote

I’m having my neck rubbed by Miss S. Does that make you feel better?

Got to go ;)

Please do rub hers back, Sir.
LOL!

210 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:16:01pm

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

I can’t fully explain myself without broadcasting who I really am. But my family is a Republican family and I am committed to reforming the GOP, not leaving it. My state needs a strong Republican party (and a strong Democratic party, too).

Heh. You obviously missed my mile wide brush usage against Republicans earlier in the day. Still, keep trying and just don’t put your hopes into any of the current crop. Remember & teach about Burke, Smith & Locke and you’ll have a chance to do as you wish.

211 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:16:17pm

My sister is freaking out right now because she has to go to the funeral home tomorrow and ID my dad before they seal the casket. I already opted out of the viewing, but she volunteered and now having second thoughts.

The state of California has a law that the deceased must be IDed by immediate family just before the casket is sealed, apparently there have been mix ups in the past that have necessitated this law.

My sister and I (wow never thought I’d use that expression) are afraid that my mom will lose it when she sees my dad in a coffin.

Today we all sat around telling good stories about my dad, but there is all that funeral stuff that we have to get through. He is being vaulted, not buried.

212 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:16:23pm

re: #207 researchok

As I said, I’m giving them out to my wife’s fellow med students in a rank display of socialism.

213 HoosierHoops  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:16:24pm

Good Evening Lizards…A bitter cold wind is blowing through Oklahoma tonight…Remind you all of anything?
*wink*

214 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:16:35pm

re: #205 albusteve

On a scale of “inexperienced” to “brain numbingly moronic”, Palin has got him beat for stupidity.

Seriously, if she ends up on the ballot in 2012, this republican is voting for Obama.

215 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:17:02pm

re: #203 Obdicut

Good for you.
Please, may I have just one?
It’s virtual.
LOL!

216 jamesfirecat  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:17:06pm

re: #205 albusteve

BO didn’t and he got elected…anything is possible

Oh boy here we go again, 4 years as a Senator are the same as being mayor of one of the smallest towns in one of the least populated states in the nation….

217 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:17:43pm

re: #211 Alouette

It’s a good law, in view of a lot of the shenningans that have gone on at funeral homes. Does your mom have to go?

218 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:17:56pm

re: #161 LudwigVanQuixote

They don’t think. If hey did, they would not be on the right.

I wouldn’t say that, many are quite intelligent, certainly more than I am. What I have observed is that many are, IMHO, too willing to trust their initial gut reaction without spending time considering alternatives. To me that looks like an emotional response. They make moral decisions immediately and value sticking to that decision, where I spend a great deal of time mulling over the potential consequences.

I think their quick decisions can contribute to being good business people but bad scientists, whereas my ‘cogitation’ would probably make me a crappy business person (I am) but a decent scientist.

219 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:18:31pm

re: #215 Floral Giraffe

Hell, have ‘em all, and lick the bowl clean while you’re at it.

There’s some nice blue cheese around, too, and some Delerium Tremens.

220 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:18:41pm

re: #213 HoosierHoops

Warm cookies on the baking tray?
With melted chocolate in them?
Drooling yet?
LOL!
*waves*

221 danhenry1  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:18:42pm

Fantastic…, great Mountains (Organ), southernmost Ski Area in the the continental US ‘Ski Apache’, Carlsbad Caverns, and White Sands National Monument..WOW.
house prices suck big time right now..have to hold on to mine. But maybe the Spaceport just being built north of where we lived will have a positive impact.
‘Ludwig…any insight on that???’

222 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:18:44pm

re: #216 jamesfirecat

Oh boy here we go again, 4 years as a Senator are the same as being mayor of one of the smallest towns in one of the least populated states in the nation…

… and she quit. She’s a quitter.

223 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:19:00pm

re: #163 chordata

There was a letter to the editor in the local paper a few years back in which the writer felt protection for the earth, ie. no excessive logging here in the northwest, was unnecessary as God was going to lay the rapture thing on us and there would be a New Earth so why bother.
In recent times there has been a christian green movement afoot which subscribed to the idea that since this was God’s Earth we should be more careful with it. Ironically it is getting strangled in the cradle by the present christian political milieu.
Me? I’m some guy from Montana.

You’re from Montana? You’re practically my neighbour.

225 sizzleRI  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:19:17pm

re: #196 albusteve

Hi! I’m in Boston now, and love it. When were you here?

226 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:19:25pm

re: #217 Obdicut

It’s a good law, in view of a lot of the shenningans that have gone on at funeral homes. Does your mom have to go?

My mom insists that she will go. She has been so strong up to now. I am just afraid that if she loses it, it won’t be pretty.

227 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:19:43pm

she told me not to mess around,
but I done let the deal go down

Youtube Video
228 researchok  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:19:59pm

re: #212 Obdicut

As I said, I’m giving them out to my wife’s fellow med students in a rank display of socialism.

Go ahead. Kill me.

229 Four More Tears  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:20:06pm

How can you people insult former half-term Governor Palin like this?

230 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:20:22pm

re: #220 Floral Giraffe

Warm cookies on the baking tray?
With melted chocolate in them?
Drooling yet?

I only drool for Tri-Tip and women. Cookies don’t even rank with me.
/unless we’re talking euphemisms.

231 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:20:28pm

I left for a bit and now I’m back:

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

Because her mother has many fans and those fans want Bristol to win.

And, who cares?


re: #110 Mr Pancakes

What means dancing with the stars?

It’s a TV show, where professional dancers are paired with non-professional dancers who are “stars” and the audience votes on who goes, and who gets to stay. There is no prize of any sort at the end of the thing except, I guess, the glory of “winning”.

232 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:20:39pm

re: #164 albusteve

I agreed with the Palin Pretense…why follow her every word, what’s the point?

The real Palin? Know thy enemy and hold them close.

233 brookly red  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:20:49pm

re: #228 researchok

Go ahead. Kill me.

OK. if you insist…

234 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:20:58pm

re: #226 Alouette

I’m sorry, I don’t know what to say. I hope she does manage to hold it together.

Remember to take care of yourself during all of this. And I mean the simple things, food, sleep, rest, comforts. Treat yourself well. Treat yourself as you would a dear friend who just lost their father.

235 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:22:01pm

re: #173 Obdicut

We’re not on friendly terms, so don’t pretend we are. Just try not to be as creepy as you were yesterday, please.

I won’t ask.

236 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:22:22pm

BTW -
iPhone users.
Here is a really cool app, pricey, but worth it IMO.
Check it out - starmap

237 researchok  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:22:37pm

re: #233 brookly red

OK. if you insist…

You’re cold.
/

And my cookies go with me.

238 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:22:44pm

re: #210 wlewisiii

Heh. You obviously missed my mile wide brush usage against Republicans earlier in the day. Still, keep trying and just don’t put your hopes into any of the current crop. Remember & teach about Burke, Smith & Locke and you’ll have a chance to do as you wish.

I’m not here before 6pm on weekdays anymore. My work starts at 8am and its in downtown Chicago and I don’t find it prudent to go here at work.

239 albusteve  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:22:52pm

re: #225 sizzleRI

Hi! I’m in Boston now, and love it. When were you here?

back in the 70/80s….too busy for me

240 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:23:00pm

re: #234 Obdicut

I’m sorry, I don’t know what to say. I hope she does manage to hold it together.

Remember to take care of yourself during all of this. And I mean the simple things, food, sleep, rest, comforts. Treat yourself well. Treat yourself as you would a dear friend who just lost their father.

I am just glad that most of my kids managed to come. They are great and my mom really appreciates it.

241 Four More Tears  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:23:06pm

If Obama really cared about this country he would stand behind the worst possible ideas so that Republicans could comfortably support the real solutions.

242 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:23:45pm

re: #182 Obdicut

I actually am eating a cookie I baked right now.

No, wait, I’m eating like three.

Mmm.

cinnamon-crust Meixcan chocolate cookies.

Love ‘em.

You bake cookies? I have a wife for that. (She won’t let me in the kitchen since the accident of 1995)

243 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:24:05pm

re: #241 JasonA

If Obama really cared about this country he would stand behind the worst possible ideas so that Republicans could comfortably support the real solutions.

Doesn’t he already support death panels? :)

244 brookly red  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:24:08pm

re: #237 researchok

You’re cold.
/

And my cookies go with me.

just ignore the buzzing sound from above… and I never eat sugar.

245 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:24:18pm

re: #237 researchok

You can’t take it with you.*

*except cookies.


This is basically the recipe I’m using, except that I add some cayenne to it for the awesome heat, and a little allspice as well.

[Link: culinaryarts.about.com…]

246 HoosierHoops  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:24:23pm

re: #229 JasonA

How can you people insult former half-term Governor Palin like this?

Her first mistake…Most Americans hate quitters..We love people that go down fighting and stick to their guns…Right or wrong.. She may be the poster girl of the Tea party..But she will never be a president…

247 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:24:37pm

re: #242 b_sharp

You bake cookies? I have a wife for that. (She won’t let me in the kitchen since the accident of 1995)

What did you do? Take the weight off the pressure cooker?

248 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:24:51pm

re: #236 reine.de.tout

BTW -
iPhone users.
Here is a really cool app, pricey, but worth it IMO.
Check it out - starmap

What are you, an astrologer or something?
/

249 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:25:07pm

re: #224 SanFranciscoZionist

Interesting breakdown of modern Jewish Orthodoxy on a number of issues dear to Lizards.

That’s pretty good. I’d love to see something like that with Christianity Catholic, fundie & protestant for example.

250 researchok  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:25:09pm

re: #245 Obdicut

You can’t take it with you.*

*except cookies.

This is basically the recipe I’m using, except that I add some cayenne to it for the awesome heat, and a little allspice as well.

[Link: culinaryarts.about.com…]

Damn straight, Mao.
/

251 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:25:18pm

re: #226 Alouette

My mom insists that she will go. She has been so strong up to now. I am just afraid that if she loses it, it won’t be pretty.

You know her a lot better than I, but I imagine that at her age she knows her own strength pretty well.

All the best, however it happens.

252 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:25:56pm

re: #242 b_sharp

You bake cookies? I have a wife for that. (She won’t let me in the kitchen since the accident of 1995)

*snort*
The Roi is not allowed anywhere near the laundry.
He only knows one wash setting - hot/hot.
He only knows one dryer setting - high heat.
He is allowed to do ONLY his clothes. Nothing else. Not that he really wants to …

253 researchok  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:26:23pm

re: #245 Obdicut

You can’t take it with you.*

*except cookies.

This is basically the recipe I’m using, except that I add some cayenne to it for the awesome heat, and a little allspice as well.

[Link: culinaryarts.about.com…]

Nice recipe. I’m impressed.

Have you tried those NYC delivery cookies yet?

254 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:26:38pm

re: #245 Obdicut

This is basically the recipe I’m using, except that I add some cayenne to it for the awesome heat, and a little allspice as well.

Hmm… I may have to rethink my cookie stance.

255 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:26:41pm

re: #248 Slumbering Behemoth

What are you, an astrologer or something?
/

It’s for amateurs!
Me, I’m merely the Queen of Everything

256 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:26:50pm

re: #249 Rightwingconspirator

That’s pretty good. I’d love to see something like that with Christianity Catholic, fundie & protestant for example.

I think the Protestant sects cover waaaay too much area. You’ll note, this is a fairly small sample. They don’t include Conservative or Reform at all.

257 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:26:58pm

re: #253 researchok

My wife is not allowed to know about delivery cookies.

258 researchok  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:27:26pm

re: #257 Obdicut

My wife is not allowed to know about delivery cookies.

LOLOL

259 brookly red  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:27:36pm

re: #254 Slumbering Behemoth

Hmm… I may have to rethink my cookie stance.

no just block all third party cookies on GPs …

260 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:27:47pm

re: #245 Obdicut

You can’t take it with you.*

*except cookies.

This is basically the recipe I’m using, except that I add some cayenne to it for the awesome heat, and a little allspice as well.

[Link: culinaryarts.about.com…]

Yum.
You put cayenne into those cookies?
Yum.

261 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:29:00pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

It’s for amateurs!
Me, I’m merely the Queen of Everything

Then I’d like some winning lotto numbers please, if it’s not too much trouble. I could sacrifice my neighbor’s cat if that would help speed things along.
///

262 researchok  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:29:03pm

re: #260 reine.de.tout

Yum.
You put cayenne into those cookies?
Yum.

I’ve had cayenne/vanilla/chocolate ice cream.

Damn fine.

263 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:30:07pm

re: #262 researchok

I’ve had cayenne/vanilla/chocolate ice cream.

Damn fine.

The cookie usage interests me, though. Seems it would also add a good touch to a gingerbread or honey cake.

264 sizzleRI  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:30:23pm

re: #239 albusteve

Haha, I responded to the wrong person, I meant the guy who said he’d originally lived here. But thats cool you’ve been here, I can understand busy, although the 70s-80s were before my time!

265 brookly red  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:30:37pm

re: #261 Slumbering Behemoth

Then I’d like some winning lotto numbers please, if it’s not too much trouble. I could sacrifice my neighbor’s cat if that would help speed things along.
///

I hit 1270 straight today… fuckers took 20% in taxes.

266 researchok  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:30:38pm

re: #263 SanFranciscoZionist

The cookie usage interests me, though. Seems it would also add a good touch to a gingerbread or honey cake.

Agreed. I like that ‘bite’.

267 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:31:13pm

OK this is more sick than sick:

[Link: www.ktul.com…]

Protesters from a Kansas church who have gained attention through picketing at the funerals of fallen military servicemen are now turning their attention to protesting at the funerals of children to retaliate for their tires being slashed at a McAlester serviceman’s funeral last week.

Members of Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas will be in Burneyville in southern Oklahoma today. That’s where a funeral is being held for eight-year-old Jalen Wolfe, who died in an accident at the Love County Fairgrounds last week.

On the WBC website, members say they are protesting because of the vandalism they suffered over the weekend while protesting at the funeral of McAlester serviceman Jason McCluskey.

They say quote “the Lord curses them by killing Oklahoma’s children and casting them into Hell.” Furthermore, their website reads “Thank God For More Dead Children In Oklahoma!”.

In addition to today’s funeral, the protestors are scheduled to return to Owasso Thursday to protest at the funeral of Melissa Hanslovan of Collinsville, who died Sunday after a one-car crash over the weekend.

The protesters were in Owasso earlier this year for the funeral of Specialist Andrew Looney. They say soldiers are being killed because of God’s revenge against America for its tolerance of homosexuality.

I am going to go on record here and say enough is enough with these loons.

They are literally saying if you don’t like us desecrating soldiers funerals, we will desecrate children’s funerals. It is a form of terrorism pure and simple.

There is a social contract and part of that social contract prevents such behavior. I really don’t care about the laws. I don’t care about precious “free speech” arguments. I want these freaks demonstrably shown that there is such a thing as a time and a place for everything and that this behavior is intolerable.

If that means laws need to be passed to prevent desecrating the funerals of others, so be it. If that means some concerned citizens simply beat the hell out of them then so be it. The fact that our laws are abused such that a grieving family of a child can become a target in a cynical attempt to terrorize others, is intolerable.

268 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:31:22pm

re: #262 researchok

I’ve had cayenne/vanilla/chocolate ice cream.

Damn fine.

Too spicy for me. I can’t deal with spice.

269 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:31:39pm

re: #246 HoosierHoops

Her first mistake…Most Americans hate quitters..We love people that go down fighting and stick to their guns…Right or wrong.. She may be the poster girl of the Tea party..But she will never be a president…

Canadians hate quitters too, but love people who go down.

270 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:31:45pm

re: #261 Slumbering Behemoth

Then I’d like some winning lotto numbers please, if it’s not too much trouble. I could sacrifice my neighbor’s cat if that would help speed things along.
///

eh, you almost had those numbers, sleepy one.
If you hadn’t mentioned the sacrificing of your neighbor’s cat …

271 researchok  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:31:52pm

re: #263 SanFranciscoZionist

The cookie usage interests me, though. Seems it would also add a good touch to a gingerbread or honey cake.

I haven’t had a good honey cake in along time.

272 brookly red  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:32:33pm

re: #271 researchok

I haven’t had a good honey cake in along time.

this is not facebook…

273 engineer cat  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:32:40pm

many eons ago when i was a breakfast cook, i came up with some orange and chocolate chip muffins for the all-breakfast-cook muffin contest

the secret was to dice up and mash the whole orange, including rind, and throw in a little orange flavoring on the q.t. to help out

274 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:33:04pm

re: #256 SanFranciscoZionist

I must admit it’s the bigger job. If Jesus had just had fewer disciples… And cable fewer channels it would be much simpler. ;-)>

275 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:33:08pm

re: #267 LudwigVanQuixote

Agreed, it’s time to end those people’s evil.
And they are evil, I fully believe it.

276 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:33:53pm

re: #247 Alouette

What did you do? Take the weight off the pressure cooker?

Think lemon chicken left in the oven far too long, and alfredo sauce boiled over in the microwave.

I forgot.

277 researchok  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:34:06pm

re: #267 LudwigVanQuixote

OK this is more sick than sick:

[Link: www.ktul.com…]

I am going to go on record here and say enough is enough with these loons.

They are literally saying if you don’t like us desecrating soldiers funerals, we will desecrate children’s funerals. It is a form of terrorism pure and simple.

There is a social contract and part of that social contract prevents such behavior. I really don’t care about the laws. I don’t care about precious “free speech” arguments. I want these freaks demonstrably shown that there is such a thing as a time and a place for everything and that this behavior is intolerable.

If that means laws need to be passed to prevent desecrating the funerals of others, so be it. If that means some concerned citizens simply beat the hell out of them then so be it. The fact that our laws are abused such that a grieving family of a child can become a target in a cynical attempt to terrorize others, is intolerable.

Bottom of the barrel- no fs and or buts.

There are some things that cannot be fixed. What Fred Phelps, et al, have done cannot be repaired.

278 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:34:26pm

re: #271 researchok

I haven’t had a good honey cake in along time.

Hm.
I enjoyed my honey cake - oops.
TMI.
I’ll be quiet now.

279 Four More Tears  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:34:31pm

re: #267 LudwigVanQuixote

I wouldn’t piss on these people if they were on fire.

280 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:34:34pm

re: #267 LudwigVanQuixote

Cities need to stop issuing them permits to protest, like my city did a few years back.

281 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:35:24pm

re: #260 reine.de.tout

Yum.
You put cayenne into those cookies?
Yum.

Yea but cayenne is kinda wimpy.

282 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:36:09pm

re: #267 LudwigVanQuixote

OK this is more sick than sick:

[Link: www.ktul.com…]

I am going to go on record here and say enough is enough with these loons.

They are literally saying if you don’t like us desecrating soldiers funerals, we will desecrate children’s funerals. It is a form of terrorism pure and simple.

There is a social contract and part of that social contract prevents such behavior. I really don’t care about the laws. I don’t care about precious “free speech” arguments. I want these freaks demonstrably shown that there is such a thing as a time and a place for everything and that this behavior is intolerable.

If that means laws need to be passed to prevent desecrating the funerals of others, so be it. If that means some concerned citizens simply beat the hell out of them then so be it. The fact that our laws are abused such that a grieving family of a child can become a target in a cynical attempt to terrorize others, is intolerable.

If these fuckers show up at my dad’s funeral my sons will seriously hurt them.

283 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:36:14pm

re: #252 reine.de.tout

*snort*
The Roi is not allowed anywhere near the laundry.
He only knows one wash setting - hot/hot.
He only knows one dryer setting - high heat.
He is allowed to do ONLY his clothes. Nothing else. Not that he really wants to …

The Roi sounds like my wife.

I won’t allow her to shrink any more of my clothes, and she doesn’t like having clothes not perfectly clean.

284 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:36:32pm

re: #267 LudwigVanQuixote

I agree. Counter-protest is clearly called for. Careful, non violent counter-protest. Clever civil disobedience. But caution my friend-Remember the old masters lesson-The intemperate are easily manipulated. Musashi or Sun Tzu?

285 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:36:43pm

re: #280 Slumbering Behemoth

Cities need to stop issuing them permits to protest, like my city did a few years back.

If some grieving father were to simply knock the teeth out of one of them, no jury in America would convict. Jury nullification is built into the law too.

286 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:37:02pm

re: #267 LudwigVanQuixote

OK this is more sick than sick:

[Link: www.ktul.com…]

I am going to go on record here and say enough is enough with these loons.

They are literally saying if you don’t like us desecrating soldiers funerals, we will desecrate children’s funerals. It is a form of terrorism pure and simple.

There is a social contract and part of that social contract prevents such behavior. I really don’t care about the laws. I don’t care about precious “free speech” arguments. I want these freaks demonstrably shown that there is such a thing as a time and a place for everything and that this behavior is intolerable.

If that means laws need to be passed to prevent desecrating the funerals of others, so be it. If that means some concerned citizens simply beat the hell out of them then so be it. The fact that our laws are abused such that a grieving family of a child can become a target in a cynical attempt to terrorize others, is intolerable.

And just when you thought they couldn’t get any lower they do. I really regret not counter-protesting them when I had the chance when they were here a couple years ago. Didn’t want to wake up at 7:30. Really regret it. Picketting a dead child’s funeral. I just wish these people would go away. They’re disgusting.

287 prairiefire  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:37:19pm

The guy who made Pineapple Express has a new movie coming out set in magical, medevil times. “Your Highness”. NSFW trailer:[Link: yourhighnessmovie.net…]

288 researchok  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:37:35pm

re: #285 LudwigVanQuixote

If some grieving father were to simply knock the teeth out of one of them, no jury in America would convict. Jury nullification is built into the law too.

I always liked vehicular malfunction.

289 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:37:41pm

re: #267 LudwigVanQuixote

OK this is more sick than sick:

[Link: www.ktul.com…]

I am going to go on record here and say enough is enough with these loons.

They are literally saying if you don’t like us desecrating soldiers funerals, we will desecrate children’s funerals. It is a form of terrorism pure and simple.

There is a social contract and part of that social contract prevents such behavior. I really don’t care about the laws. I don’t care about precious “free speech” arguments. I want these freaks demonstrably shown that there is such a thing as a time and a place for everything and that this behavior is intolerable.

If that means laws need to be passed to prevent desecrating the funerals of others, so be it. If that means some concerned citizens simply beat the hell out of them then so be it. The fact that our laws are abused such that a grieving family of a child can become a target in a cynical attempt to terrorize others, is intolerable.

I’ve been having a quiet evening at home, and my trusty little computer has been working overtime in a variety of ways to show me the various faces of mundane, near-to-home evil.

I don’t understand these people. I simply don’t. I can understand a religious fanatic, but these people aren’t simply fanatics. They’re sadists, engaging in a sort of bloodless serial-killing behavior, slowly devolving and becoming more creative as each successive transgression fails to give them the old charge.

It’s—oh my God.

I have a student this year with that child’s given name.

290 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:37:45pm

re: #267 LudwigVanQuixote

The Phelps Klan is so sick that the appearance of one of Phelps’ daughter on Hannity and Colmes saw the two hosts in a rare moment of complete agreement that she was vile and wrong.

291 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:38:00pm

re: #284 Rightwingconspirator

I agree. Counter-protest is clearly called for. Careful, non violent counter-protest. Clever civil disobedience. But caution my friend-Remember the old masters lesson-The intemperate are easily manipulated. Musashi or Sun Tzu?

Alexander. Cut the knot. Solve the problem by denying the premise. They do not have the right to that sort of “speech” at someone else’s funeral period.

292 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:38:00pm

re: #287 prairiefire

The guy who made Pineapple Express has a new movie coming out set in magical, medevil times. “Your Highness”. NSFW trailer:[Link: yourhighnessmovie.net…]

I must admit… that was a funny movie.

293 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:38:07pm

re: #270 reine.de.tout

eh, you almost had those numbers, sleepy one.
If you hadn’t mentioned the sacrificing of your neighbor’s cat …

Fine! I’ll just find me another “Queen of Everything”. I’ll bet there’s like, a thousand of ‘em in my city. :P

294 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:38:28pm

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

Too spicy for me. I can’t deal with spice.

Yeah, you’ve mentioned. I love hot foods much more than sweets, so it sounds ideal to me.

295 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:38:32pm

re: #287 prairiefire

The guy who made Pineapple Express has a new movie coming out set in magical, medevil times. “Your Highness”. NSFW trailer:[Link: yourhighnessmovie.net…]

Natalie Portman and Zooey Deschanel :). Two beautiful ladies and Danny McBride as well as James Franco who are also great. Definitely on my list of things to see, thanks a bunch.

296 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:38:44pm

re: #282 Alouette

If these fuckers show up at my dad’s funeral my sons will seriously hurt them.

No jury would convict.

297 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:39:02pm

re: #267 LudwigVanQuixote

OK this is more sick than sick:

[Link: www.ktul.com…]

I am going to go on record here and say enough is enough with these loons.

They are literally saying if you don’t like us desecrating soldiers funerals, we will desecrate children’s funerals. It is a form of terrorism pure and simple.

There is a social contract and part of that social contract prevents such behavior. I really don’t care about the laws. I don’t care about precious “free speech” arguments. I want these freaks demonstrably shown that there is such a thing as a time and a place for everything and that this behavior is intolerable.

If that means laws need to be passed to prevent desecrating the funerals of others, so be it. If that means some concerned citizens simply beat the hell out of them then so be it. The fact that our laws are abused such that a grieving family of a child can become a target in a cynical attempt to terrorize others, is intolerable.

Nail their shoes to the floor, stick their feet in and then tie the laces in a knot. They’ll never figure out how to get out of their shoes.

298 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:39:38pm

re: #282 Alouette

If these fuckers show up at my dad’s funeral my sons will seriously hurt them.

If they do, please post video. We’ll all chip in for defense fund.

299 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:39:41pm

re: #290 Dark_Falcon

The Phelps Klan is so sick that the appearance of one of Phelps’ daughter on Hannity and Colmes saw the two hosts in a rare moment of complete agreement that she was vile and wrong.

I saw that DF. Sean was calling her for what he was and I was seeing myself say yeah you tell her Sean. Felt like I was in bizzaro world with that.

300 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:39:43pm

re: #293 Slumbering Behemoth

Fine! I’ll just find me another “Queen of Everything”. I’ll bet there’s like, a thousand of ‘em in my city. :P

I thought Bristol was your future ex-wife?
But yeah, we’re a dime a dozen, you should have no problems at all finding your queen of everything.
{SB}

301 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:39:46pm

re: #285 LudwigVanQuixote

If some grieving father were to simply knock the teeth out of one of them, no jury in America would convict. Jury nullification is built into the law too.

Despite being the worst that humanity has to offer, the Phelps cult is pretty smart about that kind of thing, and very legally savvy.

302 researchok  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:39:50pm

re: #296 LudwigVanQuixote

No jury would convict.

I seem to recall some jury awarded Phelps a damage award of $1.00 sometime ago.

303 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:39:54pm

re: #296 LudwigVanQuixote

No jury would convict.

Actually my sister would kick their asses all by herself before any of my sons could get a punch in.

304 chordata  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:40:02pm

re: #223 b_sharp

re: #223 b_sharp

Oh? Which state or country are you from?

305 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:40:19pm

re: #283 b_sharp

I don’t believe in laundry segregation so all colors are washed together. Eventually everything ends up the same color.

306 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:40:59pm

re: #291 LudwigVanQuixote

Of course they do not. But what if they could not be seen or heard? Surrounded and drowned out, as in Tulsa? A wall of people at a discrete distance between them and the funeral.

307 researchok  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:41:20pm

re: #305 Killgore Trout

I don’t believe in laundry segregation so all colors are washed together. Eventually everything ends up the same color.

Pink shorts?

Like Sheriff Joe?

308 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:41:32pm

re: #285 LudwigVanQuixote

If some grieving father were to simply knock the teeth out of one of them, no jury in America would convict. Jury nullification is built into the law too.

Wasn’t there a case similar to that recently? A civil suit. I think Bill O’Reilly, among others, offered to pay the damages if the relative was found against.

Here we go. It wasn’t an assault case, it was a lawsuit.

309 sizzleRI  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:44:29pm

re: #294 SanFranciscoZionist

Me too. I knew my girlfriend was perfect when she mentioned her quest for the best hot sauce. She needed to know if we’d have a future.

310 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:44:53pm

re: #304 chordata

re: #223 b_sharp

Oh? Which state or country are you from?

Look up to the Great White North.

I live in Saskatchewan.

311 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:45:01pm

re: #298 SanFranciscoZionist

If they do, please post video. We’ll all chip in for defense fund.

Yeah they can get the money after the parade. Can you imagine the headline:

“IDF soldiers beat down Phelps gang.”

“IDF takes no guff from Americas most hated protesters.”

“Medal of Honor awarded for first time to IDF members.”

312 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:45:42pm

re: #300 reine.de.tout

I thought Bristol was your future ex-wife?
But yeah, we’re a dime a dozen, you should have no problems at all finding your queen of everything.
{SB}

Oh, I wasn’t thinking in the sense of someone like Bristol, or a future ex-wife, but more like these kinds of “Queens of Everything”. I bet if I brought one of them a kitty, they give me winning lotto numbers pronto.

313 brookly red  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:45:56pm

re: #310 b_sharp

Look up to the Great White North.

I live in Saskatchewan.

/what exit?

314 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:46:23pm

re: #313 brookly red

/what exit?

The left of course.

315 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:46:47pm

re: #312 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh, I wasn’t thinking in the sense of someone like Bristol, or a future ex-wife, but more like these kinds of “Queens of Everything”. I bet if I brought one of them a kitty, they give me winning lotto numbers pronto.

Yikes!

316 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:47:24pm

I’ve never met anyone who has defended the Phelps clan. I have met some who stupidly try to clam Fred as a liberal since he’s a reigstered Democrat in Kansas and was a friend of Al and Tipper Gore at one point neglecting the fact that he still picketted Al Gore Sr’s funeral. IS all tehy do though is protest funerals? I’m sure Jesus is very proud.

317 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:47:59pm

re: #294 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, you’ve mentioned. I love hot foods much more than sweets, so it sounds ideal to me.

I splash on Dave’s Insanity hot sauce……. cayenne pepper? Pulllease.

318 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:48:17pm

Good night fellow primates.

319 brookly red  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:48:19pm

re: #311 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah they can get the money after the parade. Can you imagine the headline:

“IDF soldiers beat down Phelps gang.”

“IDF takes no guff from Americas most hated protesters.”

“Medal of Honor awarded for first time to IDF members.”

UN Condemns IDF Terrorism…

320 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:48:51pm

re: #315 reine.de.tout

Yeah, I’ll have to think of a way to plead my case without them gutting me first. Maybe write it down on a paper airplane and fly it their way?

321 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:49:07pm

Headline on my local newspaper’s website:

Body found in cemetery


Somebody either wasn’t thinking, or was over-thinking.

322 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:49:09pm

re: #308 SanFranciscoZionist

Wasn’t there a case similar to that recently? A civil suit. I think Bill O’Reilly, among others, offered to pay the damages if the relative was found against.

Here we go. It wasn’t an assault case, it was a lawsuit.

Phelps is actually a disbarred lawyer. His daughter and several others of the clan are still attorneys. They are ridiculously litigious as a group and actually make a lot of their money by bullying settlements on people.

However, something like one of them trying to speak in court through broken teeth and a wired jaw would not garner them sympathy. At this point they are too well known and too well reviled.

Any smart defendant would demand a jury trial. Two minutes of the crying and very angry mother on the stand and the jury will ask the judge for damages to the family.

323 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:49:26pm

re: #306 Rightwingconspirator

Of course they do not. But what if they could not be seen or heard? Surrounded and drowned out, as in Tulsa? A wall of people at a discrete distance between them and the funeral.

That would work, but how about this instead:

Deploy the Patriot Guard Riders in a more aggressive posture. Use them to tail Phelps family vehicles. If the Phelps Klan goes into a store enroute to a protest, follow them in and announce they are; no clerk will want to serve them. They try to fly, again follow and announce who they are; TSA will pull them aside for cavity searches. Make it plain that whereever they go they will be followed and called out as the scum they are. It’s aggressive, but still non violent.

324 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:50:07pm

re: #320 Slumbering Behemoth

Yeah, I’ll have to think of a way to plead my case without them gutting me first. Maybe write it down on a paper airplane and fly it their way?

There ya go.
They can write the numbers down and fly it back to you!

325 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:50:22pm

re: #319 brookly red

UN Condemns IDF Terrorism…

Maybe… I have a hard time seeing the oohhh so progressive and anti-religious Europeans defending a radical Fundie sect. Even the Mullahs would be smart enough not to touch that one.

326 chordata  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:50:32pm

re: #310 b_sharp

Look up to the Great White North.

I live in Saskatchewan.

My Great Grandad was from Montreal, a Turcott. He was a dredgerman Engineer in Alder, Montana. My Grandad used to get his haircut in Virginia City where they had hung the ropes that the Vigilantes had used to hang Sheriff Plummer and others. Good object lesson for young boys.

327 brookly red  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:51:52pm

re: #321 reine.de.tout

Headline on my local newspaper’s website:


Somebody either wasn’t thinking, or was over-thinking.

where do you leave your bodies… sheesh I was just trying to make it easy for them.

328 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:52:11pm

re: #317 Mr Pancakes

I splash on Dave’s Insanity hot sauce… cayenne pepper? Pulllease.

You have a stronger constitution then I. A buddy of mine, who drinks Tabasco like it was water, started to tell me a story about slamming a shot of that at a party. I told him I would have knocked the shot glass out of his hand for fear of his life. That stuff ain’t no joke.

329 brookly red  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:53:24pm

re: #325 LudwigVanQuixote

Maybe… I have a hard time seeing the oohhh so progressive and anti-religious Europeans defending a radical Fundie sect. Even the Mullahs would be smart enough not to touch that one.

we are talking about Israel here, no?

330 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:55:09pm

re: #324 reine.de.tout

Isn’t that the most adorable pic, though. Little Princess Warriors, of to stem the tide of evil older brothers that give Barbie dolls swirlies.

331 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:56:08pm

re: #301 Slumbering Behemoth

Despite being the worst that humanity has to offer, the Phelps cult is pretty smart about that kind of thing, and very legally savvy.

Like I said, Phelps is a disbarred attorney. He was disbarred for filing too many frivolous lawsuits against the wrong people. Many in his clan are attorneys also.

They are very careful to only do their more crazy and despicable stunts in certain places. I am pretty certain that if they tried that stunt up here, they would find themselves in five kinds of legal hurt - if they could get the permits.

But, and here is the kicker, these are your small town yokel attorneys.

And small town courts are a double edged sword. There have been certain towns they wanted to go to where the sheriff was also the judge. The sheriff told them in no uncertain terms that their welcome would be dire.

332 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:56:25pm

re: #329 brookly red

we are talking about Israel here, no?

We are talking about a hypothetical situation in which the Phelps clan tried to picket my dad’s funeral and my sons kicked their asses. However my son the IDF vet could not come to LA, so we’re just trash talking.

333 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:56:40pm

re: #327 brookly red

Who says you have to leave them anywhere?
/TMI?

334 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:56:50pm

re: #330 Slumbering Behemoth

Isn’t that the most adorable pic, though. Little Princess Warriors, of to stem the tide of evil older brothers that give Barbie dolls swirlies.

Actually - looks like me and my friends at a young age.
‘cept we weren’t too much into the princess togs.
We did think the boys had much more interesting toys.

335 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:57:40pm

re: #328 Slumbering Behemoth

You have a stronger constitution then I. A buddy of mine, who drinks Tabasco like it was water, started to tell me a story about slamming a shot of that at a party. I told him I would have knocked the shot glass out of his hand for fear of his life. That stuff ain’t no joke.

Oh it’s brutal…. my wife’s family from Mexico came over and she offered it and warned them….. they still splashed it on liberally…… and then turned purple in the face…. it cracked me up.

Tabasco is water by comparison.

336 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:58:39pm

Oh wow. Any of the folks here who were talking b-ball a few weeks back?

espn

Portland Trail Blazers center Greg Oden out for season because of knee injury - [Link: es.pn…]

What a bust!

337 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:58:59pm

re: #331 LudwigVanQuixote

And small town courts are a double edged sword. There have been certain towns they wanted to go to where the sheriff was also the judge. The sheriff told them in no uncertain terms that their welcome would be dire.

That needs to happen more often. Sadly, any move made or word spoken against them only reinforces their twisted spiritual views. I truly pity the children raised in that environment.

338 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:59:40pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

It’s for amateurs!
Me, I’m merely the Queen of Everything

Because that’s funny.
You are the queen!

339 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:59:42pm

re: #331 LudwigVanQuixote

Ludwig, could you take a quick look over at Killgore’s “Beck and JBS” thread and let me know if my repost to “ernie” was adequate?

340 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:59:56pm

re: #335 Mr Pancakes

I, for the life of me, can not understand the fascination that people have with food that hurts (both going in and out).

Flavor is wonderful. Pain is terrible. They are not the same thing.

341 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 7:59:57pm

re: #336 Stanley Sea

Oh wow. Any of the folks here who were talking b-ball a few weeks back?

espn

Portland Trail Blazers center Greg Oden out for season because of knee injury - [Link: es.pn…]

What a bust!

SDSU beat #11 Gonzaga last night…. how cool was that?

342 prairiefire  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:00:06pm

re: #336 Stanley Sea

Eva Longoria is divorcing Tony Parker for bonking Brent Barry’s wife.

343 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:00:23pm

re: #334 reine.de.tout

Actually - looks like me and my friends at a young age.
‘cept we weren’t too much into the princess togs.
We did think the boys had much more interesting toys.

I knew there was a reason I liked you so much. I mean, aside from all the other obvious reasons.
*smooch*

344 sizzleRI  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:00:29pm

re: #336 Stanley Sea

I wanted to be on a thread with you! Gators fan, right?

345 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:01:38pm

re: #340 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I, for the life of me, can not understand the fascination that people have with food that hurts (both going in and out).

Flavor is wonderful. Pain is terrible. They are not the same thing.

I agree…. I love spicy food and I’ve never had a problem…… but lately my body tells me pickled jalapenos are not a good thing which sucks.

346 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:01:52pm

re: #336 Stanley Sea

Oh wow. Any of the folks here who were talking b-ball a few weeks back?

espn

Portland Trail Blazers center Greg Oden out for season because of knee injury - [Link: es.pn…]

What a bust!

The Onion actually recently had an article poking fun at Oden’s tendency for injury. It’s a shame really. I Remember the debate about who would be better, him or Kevin Durant.

347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:01:53pm

re: #336 Stanley Sea

Poor Greg.

Humans just aren’t meant to be that big, that fast, that strong…

Sometimes the machine just doesn’t survive the banging.

348 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:02:45pm

re: #289 SanFranciscoZionist

I’ve been having a quiet evening at home, and my trusty little computer has been working overtime in a variety of ways to show me the various faces of mundane, near-to-home evil.

I don’t understand these people. I simply don’t. I can understand a religious fanatic, but these people aren’t simply fanatics. They’re sadists, engaging in a sort of bloodless serial-killing behavior, slowly devolving and becoming more creative as each successive transgression fails to give them the old charge.

It’s—oh my God.

I have a student this year with that child’s given name.

This is a brilliant comment and likely quite correct. They are a nasty little cult in every sense of the word. Perhaps because of the legal background of Fred they are not violent to outsiders, but they are clearly interested in a weasely sort of violence none the less. And this really is terrorism. They are bringing G-d’s wrath on OK, and an innocent family for the “sin” of someone else slashing their tires. They said so themselves. And they are going to hit another funeral to prove it.

There comes a point where I miss Davidic law. They are clearly beyond redemption. Let G-d sort them out.

349 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:03:12pm

re: #346 HappyWarrior

Oden’s ESPN commercial was the best ever, tho.

350 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:04:05pm

re: #342 prairiefire

Eva Longoria is divorcing Tony Parker for bonking Brent Barry’s wife.

Parker is just another idiot led to folly by his dick.

351 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:04:06pm

re: #335 Mr Pancakes

I tried a drop of that Dave’s stuff, and it hurt like hell. Still, the hottest I’ve had was some stuff made from scratch at a taqueria. This is the hottest I’m willing to go anymore.

352 HoosierHoops  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:04:18pm

re: #346 HappyWarrior

The Onion actually recently had an article poking fun at Oden’s tendency for injury. It’s a shame really. I Remember the debate about who would be better, him or Kevin Durant.

The key before the draft was Bill Simmons saw him and wrote that he walked like a 60 year old man

353 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:05:21pm

re: #344 sizzleRI

I wanted to be on a thread with you! Gators fan, right?

Oh hell yeah! Click my nic!

Love the sports comments after mine! We’ve got it handled here.

Missed SDSU, but great!
Tony Parker = idiot putz fool whatever.

354 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:05:22pm

re: #351 Slumbering Behemoth

I tried a drop of that Dave’s stuff, and it hurt like hell. Still, the hottest I’ve had was some stuff made from scratch at a taqueria. This is the hottest I’m willing to go anymore.

I’d chomp it….

355 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:06:50pm

re: #352 HoosierHoops

The key before the draft was Bill Simmons saw him and wrote that he walked like a 60 year old man

Don’t remember that though I do remember the jokes that he looked a lot older than his age. Whole thing reminds me though that draft was when I first started feeling old since both Oden and Durant are younger than me. Was real bummed out this past year that my high school classmate, Scottie Reynolds missed being draft. Last I heard he was with the Suns’ developmental team.

356 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:08:00pm

re: #354 Mr Pancakes

It tastes great, but has a heck of a kick. Not nearly the kick Dave’s has, though. If you like hot sauce, I highly recommend it.

357 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:08:53pm

re: #342 prairiefire

Eva Longoria is divorcing Tony Parker for bonking Brent Barry’s wife.

Some women…
/

358 prairiefire  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:13:20pm

re: #357 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Some women…
/

I figure if you marry a sports star, you should start the countdown clock for the trip to your lawyer’s office to file for divorce.

359 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:14:00pm

re: #339 Dark_Falcon

Ludwig, could you take a quick look over at Killgore’s “Beck and JBS” thread and let me know if my repost to “ernie” was adequate?

You wrote a well reasoned, factually correct and completely perfect response IMHO.

It will not register.

I wrote

Fuck Off Paul Bot.

360 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:14:56pm

re: #350 Dark_Falcon

Stupid penis…

361 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:15:15pm

re: #316 HappyWarrior

I’ve never met anyone who has defended the Phelps clan. I have met some who stupidly try to clam Fred as a liberal since he’s a reigstered Democrat in Kansas and was a friend of Al and Tipper Gore at one point neglecting the fact that he still picketted Al Gore Sr’s funeral. IS all tehy do though is protest funerals? I’m sure Jesus is very proud.

They also protest other stuff, like ComicCon, but mostly they like gloating when people have died.

362 chordata  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:15:40pm

re: #358 prairiefire

I figure if you marry a sports star, you should start the countdown clock for the trip to your lawyer’s office to file for divorce.

A 24 month shot clock would do nicely.

363 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:15:50pm

re: #344 sizzleRI


Soo, just a college football fan in RI?

364 sizzleRI  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:15:52pm

re: #353 Stanley Sea

I love it, even though I shouldn’t. I am a Tennessee fan (crying inside). So you were always the enemy. When I was growing up our dog was allowed to chew on a stuffed alligator whenever Florida played. This was awkward, as my mother was a transplant to Rhode Island and this was not understood. Nor were was her manicure and pedicure in neon orange with the pinkie nails containing endzones.

But then Spurrier left FL, and TN was not very good, and now I just root for whichever SEC team is doing the best. Which is a benefit up here, like when the gators won the National Championship and everyone bet against me. The win felt dirty, but it was a win.

This year I guess its Auburn.

365 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:16:27pm

re: #325 LudwigVanQuixote

Maybe… I have a hard time seeing the oohhh so progressive and anti-religious Europeans defending a radical Fundie sect. Even the Mullahs would be smart enough not to touch that one.

I just can’t imagine the Mullahs caring much what happens to Fred Phelps.

366 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:18:05pm

re: #332 Alouette

We are talking about a hypothetical situation in which the Phelps clan tried to picket my dad’s funeral and my sons kicked their asses. However my son the IDF vet could not come to LA, so we’re just trash talking.

I don’t think anyone minds. I’ve seen a Father Coughlin apologist on this website, but I have never seen anyone say a good work about the Phelpsers.

367 sizzleRI  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:18:15pm

re: #361 SanFranciscoZionist

Lovely people.

368 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:18:28pm

re: #358 prairiefire

I figure if you marry a sports star, you should start the countdown clock for the trip to your lawyer’s office to file for divorce.

Absolutely!
He has a lot of hotties after him.
You’re a hottie with fans.
What could go wrong?
////

369 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:18:58pm

re: #366 SanFranciscoZionist

I don’t think anyone minds. I’ve seen a Father Coughlin apologist on this website, but I have never seen anyone say a good word about the Phelpsers.

They might die someday.

370 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:19:23pm

re: #369 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ooh. Yeah. That should be deleted. Yeah.

371 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:19:25pm

re: #364 sizzleRI

I love it, even though I shouldn’t. I am a Tennessee fan (crying inside). So you were always the enemy. When I was growing up our dog was allowed to chew on a stuffed alligator whenever Florida played. This was awkward, as my mother was a transplant to Rhode Island and this was not understood. Nor were was her manicure and pedicure in neon orange with the pinkie nails containing endzones.

But then Spurrier left FL, and TN was not very good, and now I just root for whichever SEC team is doing the best. Which is a benefit up here, like when the gators won the National Championship and everyone bet against me. The win felt dirty, but it was a win.

This year I guess its Auburn.

Excellent. Oh the times I was chastised - that’s VOL orange not Gator orange! Take it off!

My Dad is in South Carolina. I wore my Gamecocks shirt on Thursday and called him to tell him it was the last time before the game, in honor of Spurrier. That paid off well…

372 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:19:40pm

re: #350 Dark_Falcon

Parker is just another idiot led to folly by his dick.

Any man who lets himself be put in a position to have Eva Longoria divorce him for cause is, yes, an idiot.

373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:20:42pm

re: #372 SanFranciscoZionist

Men are a fairly dumb lot.

374 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:23:45pm

re: #328 Slumbering Behemoth

You have a stronger constitution then I. A buddy of mine, who drinks Tabasco like it was water, started to tell me a story about slamming a shot of that at a party. I told him I would have knocked the shot glass out of his hand for fear of his life. That stuff ain’t no joke.

Is this what happens to you?

Youtube Video
375 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:23:56pm

re: #361 SanFranciscoZionist

They also protest other stuff, like ComicCon, but mostly they like gloating when people have died.

ComicCon totally pwn3d them.

I do not believe that what the Phelps freaks do is protected free speech. It is harassment of private citizens. They need a beat down, legally and literally.

376 reine.de.tout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:24:37pm

re: #374 reine.de.tout

Is this what happens to you?


[Video]

Or this?

Youtube Video
377 HoosierHoops  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:24:38pm

re: #373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Men are a fairly dumb lot.

Tiger Woods and his 15 Mistresses
A modern day world’s record for crass

378 Kragar  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:24:42pm

Every Phelps rally is proof that God does not answer prayers.

379 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:24:43pm

re: #366 SanFranciscoZionist

Those Phelps cultists are absolutely certain that they, and only they, will be allowed to reach the kingdom of heaven. They have no interest, and they have admitted as much, in converting others to their brand of religion.

With this in mind, it is obvious that their only goal in these demonstrations is to spread misery and amplify the pain of mourners who they consider to be hell bound.

Emperor Palpatine would shrink in the face of the level of hatred these Phelps demons wallow in.

380 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:25:02pm

re: #367 sizzleRI

Lovely people.

Ain’t they? They started with politician’s relatives—like Bill Clinton’s mother—and gay figures, like Randy Shilts, and then they got into the soldier thing at some point—and then at some stage they developed this thing for going to places where there’d been different disasters to act out—they went to West Virginia after that terrible mine accident, for example. Dunno if they worked Katrina. Getting in might have been too much trouble.

Not long ago, they protested the Jewish high school in San Francisco, and the kids made a fundraiser out of it, getting people to pledge donations for every minute they stayed outside the school. Don’t think they stayed long. It’s a bad neighborhood, and I think the local drug dealers might have objected to their racket.

381 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:25:49pm

re: #372 SanFranciscoZionist

ckquote>Any man who lets himself be put in a position to have Eva Longoria divorce him for cause is, yes, an idiot.

LOL!
And, a lucky bastid!
(Or so he thinks!)

382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:26:13pm

G’night Knuckleheads.

383 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:26:29pm

re: #378 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Every Phelps rally is proof that God does not answer prayers.

Perhaps the answer is “Yes, I quite agree, but these assholes, like yourself, have free will. In retrospect, that may have been a small design flaw.”

384 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:26:30pm

re: #379 Slumbering Behemoth

Those Phelps cultists are absolutely certain that they, and only they, will be allowed to reach the kingdom of heaven. They have no interest, and they have admitted as much, in converting others to their brand of religion.

With this in mind, it is obvious that their only goal in these demonstrations is to spread misery and amplify the pain of mourners who they consider to be hell bound.

Emperor Palpatine would shrink in the face of the level of hatred these Phelps demons wallow in.

Who would want to go to a heaven populated by Phelps freaks? That would be Hell for everyone else.

385 sizzleRI  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:26:50pm

re: #371 Stanley Sea

Yeah, that was one of those fun games. At least how I feel, once my team is out I’m a total nihilist, just amused by the rivalries and games. I’m also thrilled to see Michigan to go down this year because of how many Michigan fans I have to encounter at school.

It is kind of funny to be a Peyton Manning fan up here. Wow, do they hate him. I’m still sad he never beat Spurrier.

386 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:27:36pm

re: #373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Men are a fairly dumb lot.

Well, the married ones are anyway.
/runs for cover…

387 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:27:58pm

re: #385 sizzleRI

Yeah, that was one of those fun games. At least how I feel, once my team is out I’m a total nihilist, just amused by the rivalries and games. I’m also thrilled to see Michigan to go down this year because of how many Michigan fans I have to encounter at school.

It is kind of funny to be a Peyton Manning fan up here. Wow, do they hate him. I’m still sad he never beat Spurrier.

I mention that every time Payton is on the TV. Every time!!!

388 sizzleRI  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:28:22pm

re: #372 SanFranciscoZionist

Absolutely yes, she always wins in the Eva v. Eva match up for me. Although I would not toss Mendes out.

389 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:28:26pm

I really don’t care I misspelled his name. Sorry.

390 Kragar  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:29:07pm

re: #383 SanFranciscoZionist

Perhaps the answer is “Yes, I quite agree, but these assholes, like yourself, have free will. In retrospect, that may have been a small design flaw.”

I think the answer is more likely “I’m sorry. The number you have dialed is not a valid number.”

391 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:29:30pm

re: #384 Alouette

Who would want to go to a heaven populated by Phelps freaks? That would be Hell for everyone else.

I was hanging out with a friend last week, and we somehow started talking about the Jonathan Edwards sermon, “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God”. I said something about teaching it last year, but trying not to hold it against the Reverend Edwards, since he had been enjoying his undoubtedly boring and rigorously theologically correct reward these many years.

She said, “You’re awfully generous in that assumption. Because you, unlike Jonathan Edwards, believe in an essentially loving God.”

392 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:29:58pm

re: #374 reine.de.tout

Oh no, dear. That Dave’s stuff is instant misery.

393 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:30:35pm

re: #378 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Every Phelps rally is proof that God does not answer prayers.

Great post. Not to worry God bides his time.

I am a proud 1st amendment advocate, Just ask. Heh. But one thing I hope to be banned in crush videos. It’s a recent important case. My sense of freedom will not be impinged at all not a scintilla of worry if all of that is banned, seized burned and buried under Yucca mountain.

I feel the same about the Phelps protesters. If they went to jail, my freedoms would not be reduced a bit.

My confidence in our sense of right and wrong would really get a much needed boost. Seriously.

394 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:31:35pm

Angels soaring through the air
as they did in Bethlehem
Angels answer every prayer
once they get around to them
Please be patient, an angel will be with thee shortly

Due to increased prayer amounts
Seraphim will have delays
Servicing thy prayer accounts
For the next five million days
Please be patient, an angel will be with thee shortly

Please continue thee to hold
All thy ills will be relieved
Every human grief consoled
In the order’ twas received
Please be patient, an authorized prayer technician will be with thee shortly
Or to save thee time, wait for the chime

395 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:32:39pm

Well, the Unmarried ones don’t or do know what they are missing.
Someone to love, at home.
Who shares a lot of the same tastes.
And likes their back scritched.
I would like one of those.
A lot.
I will be shopping in my neigborhood, next year.
I welcome all Lizards.

396 Four More Tears  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:33:19pm

re: #393 Rightwingconspirator

But one thing I hope to be banned in crush videos. It’s a recent important case.

Seriously, if something needs to die for you to get a boner then you’ve got a problem.

397 Kragar  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:34:05pm

re: #395 Floral Giraffe

Well, the Unmarried ones don’t or do know what they are missing.
Someone to love, at home.
Who shares a lot of the same tastes.
And likes their back scritched.

Someone to make sandwiches…
/ducks

398 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:34:17pm

I hope they own these scum, nice

399 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:34:27pm

re: #366 SanFranciscoZionist

I don’t think anyone minds. I’ve seen a Father Coughlin apologist on this website, but I have never seen anyone say a good work about the Phelpsers.

Even Savage and Rodan of the Stalker Blog condemn the Phelps Klan as scum. They are hated universally, despised from Code Pink to the Tea Party Express.

400 sizzleRI  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:35:17pm

re: #387 Stanley Sea

If I were you, I would always mention it! Why, Redskins, why???

Tennessee fans think he is the second coming. I do not believe I am exaggerating.

1) When I was 12 my mom total me to look at that handsome (???) quarterback, because I should marry him someday, he would be very rich. And that is what college football does to a person, because outside of that my mother would Never say anything like that. For example, when I came out she said “I always thought that would be kind of cool”.

2) I turned on a TN boys basketball game last November, and I swear as I turned it on they were talking about Peyton. For no reason, just a timeout conversation.

401 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:35:39pm

re: #395 Floral Giraffe

Ties into the Eva Longoria / Tony Parker split and your post I guess. I picked this from comments elsewhere

I would say that if you want a faithful husband, don’t marry one who is rich, famous, or on the road a lot.

A nice computer programmer who lives in the basement would be a much better bet.

402 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:36:59pm

re: #395 Floral Giraffe

Happy hunting, FG. In the mean time, you can keep me as a pet. :P

403 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:37:50pm

re: #151 Gus 802

Yikes. You can actually get a house there for 175K.

[Link: carol.exit1ohio.com…]

You can get a house in Portland for that! it’ll just be…small. o_o

404 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:39:14pm

re: #376 reine.de.tout

My word! Judging by the reactions in both vids, I fear that stuff would give me a heart attack.

405 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:41:36pm

re: #396 JasonA

That crush video thing is sex torture serial killers in training.
Nothing less. The Phelps crew is the head f*&! equivalent. Both need to stop or be stopped. Period.

406 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:42:01pm

re: #395 Floral Giraffe

Well, the Unmarried ones don’t or do know what they are missing.
Someone to love, at home.
Who shares a lot of the same tastes.
And likes their back scritched.
I would like one of those.
A lot.
I will be shopping in my neigborhood, next year.
I welcome all Lizards.

Good luck. For me…
Better Off Without a Wife

Youtube Video
407 sizzleRI  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:42:57pm

re: #389 Stanley Sea

hahahaha, I understand.

408 prairiefire  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:43:59pm

re: #330 Slumbering Behemoth

Isn’t that the most adorable pic, though. Little Princess Warriors, of to stem the tide of evil older brothers that give Barbie dolls swirlies.

“My teeth will grow back. Your limbs, however will not.”
It is too big to be my new avatar.

409 Four More Tears  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:46:10pm

re: #405 Rightwingconspirator

That crush video thing is sex torture serial killers in training.
Nothing less. The Phelps crew is the head f*&! equivalent. Both need to stop or be stopped. Period.

You know… I’m looking at the Phelps page right now. They actually have a bunch of counters with these numbers:

5,815 - soldiers that God has killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
44,547 - pickets conducted by WBC.
810 - cities that have been visited by WBC.
1012 - weeks that WBC has held daily pickets on the mean streets of doomed america.
357 - people whom God has cast into hell since you loaded this page.
218,400,000+ - gallons of oil that God poured in the Gulf.
$13.8 trillion+ - national debt of doomed america.
8 - people that God saved in the flood.
16,000,000,000 - people that God killed in the flood.
144,000 - Jews that will be saved in these last days.
0 - nanoseconds of sleep that WBC members lose over your opinions and feeeeellllliiiiiings.

Sometimes it helps me to sleep at night by imagining that these people are playing a joke on us.

410 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:46:45pm

re: #406 Killgore Trout

Some people are better left alone .

411 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:49:16pm

re: #409 JasonA

You know… I’m looking at the Phelps page right now. They actually have a bunch of counters with these numbers:

Sometimes it helps me to sleep at night by imagining that these people are playing a joke on us.


Phelps freaks are Teh Stan.

412 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:51:46pm

re: #409 JasonA

You know… I’m looking at the Phelps page right now. They actually have a bunch of counters with these numbers:

Sometimes it helps me to sleep at night by imagining that these people are playing a joke on us.

Wait? What? God has a counter on hell?

Is there a web page somewhere with a counter ticking off?

I bet it’s really badly done, with a black background, and flashing neon text.

413 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:52:21pm

re: #409 JasonA

You know… I’m looking at the Phelps page right now. They actually have a bunch of counters with these numbers:

Sometimes it helps me to sleep at night by imagining that these people are playing a joke on us.

I have no code skill. Would a white hat hacker please step up to a simple task. Replace their website content with a message-
“An act of skilled kindness has removed our website. With any luck we will not be back anytime soon”.
If a semi tractor trailer rig happened to break down in their way, or no one would sell them gasoline… Or a crowd simply surrounded them and turned their backs.

414 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:52:39pm

re: #401 Stanley Sea

Those kind of guys are a two-fer.

Faithful husband AND on-call tech support.

Plus, you’ll enjoy going to your parent teacher conferences a lot more.

415 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:52:55pm

re: #402 Slumbering Behemoth

Happy hunting, FG. In the mean time, you can keep me as a pet. :P

LOL!
You could be a good pet!
*smooch*

416 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:53:29pm

re: #412 EmmmieG

Wait? What? God has a counter on hell?

The Phelps fuckers have an ‘inside man’ doing the counting.

417 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:54:05pm

re: #416 Slumbering Behemoth

Oooh, they’re all going to be “inside” if you get my drift.

418 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:55:05pm

re: #409 JasonA

You know… I’m looking at the Phelps page right now. They actually have a bunch of counters with these numbers:

Sometimes it helps me to sleep at night by imagining that these people are playing a joke on us.

They’re assholes and proud of it.

Youtube Video
419 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:55:11pm

Found out dad has been selectively skipping/dumping his meds when he didn’t feel like taking them, namely from the 22 blood thinner injectors he had hidden away (he gets 7 every week) instead of taking them. Once I took all his meds away from him, wrote up a schedule, and then tried to give him his evening meds he started complaining about making him take stuff he didn’t want to take.

He went into the Hospital overnight on Friday to remove a blood clot from his left leg, they failed, they could not get it out. Last time this happened was when they first put him on the blood thinner and the clot dissolved on it’s own. His doctors thought that he was taking it every day…whoops, nope, he has been stashing them instead of taking them because he says they make him feel “tired.” (sure, sure, it is the blood thinners, not the chemo, not the heart meds, not the diuretic, not any of the other 11 drugs he takes every day, and he knows it is the thinner because?)

I guess I have to institute prison ward dispensary mode now, I have to actually see him take it and then perhaps even check under his tongue afterward…the five daily injections for the insulin and blood thinner I will be giving myself, no need to check.

Oh well, I called a couple of his doctors, one more to call in the morning, basically to say “he will not take your prescription, no I don’t exactly know why, he wont talk to me except to yell at me about trying to make him drugs he doesn’t want…”

If he is not going to take some things the least I can do is get them off of his prescription record so his other doctors don’t think he is taking them and prescribing around them…

You would not believe how close I am to just saying “fuck-it” and going backpacking through Brazil or something else equally pointless but personally interesting. (I wont, it would mean letting my brother put Dad into a home.)

420 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:55:24pm

re: #415 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
You could be a good pet!
*smooch*

Must. Resist. Filthy. Innuendo.
/can’t. hold. much. longer.

421 elizajane  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:55:54pm

re: #409 JasonA

“16,000,000,000 - people that God killed in the flood.”

So Phelps thinks that in Noah’s time there were 10 billion more people on earth than today? Make that 10,000,000,008.

His evident way with numbers makes me feel better about the line,
“$13.8 trillion+ - national debt of doomed america”

Maybe that’s secretly off by a few orders of magnitude?

422 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:56:45pm

re: #415 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
You could be a good pet!
*smooch*

Hussy! You flirt with all the boys here :)

Smack!

423 palomino  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:57:10pm

“Creationist think tank.” There’s an oxymoron for the ages.

424 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:57:22pm

re: #421 elizajane

“16,000,000,000 - people that God killed in the flood.”

So Phelps thinks that in Noah’s time there were 10 billion more people on earth than today? Make that 10,000,000,008.

His evident way with numbers makes me feel better about the line,
“$13.8 trillion+ - national debt of doomed america”

Maybe that’s secretly off by a few orders of magnitude?

Beckmath. It’s the Beckmath at work.

425 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:58:02pm

re: #421 elizajane

“16,000,000,000 - people that God killed in the flood.”

So Phelps thinks that in Noah’s time there were 10 billion more people on earth than today? Make that 10,000,000,008.

His evident way with numbers makes me feel better about the line,
“$13.8 trillion+ - national debt of doomed america”

Maybe that’s secretly off by a few orders of magnitude?

You know once someone is wrong enough in the head to think that bringing their freak show uninvited to a child’s funeral, in order to spread their evil message of hatred and depravity, their errors in math really don’t register to me.

426 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:58:46pm

re: #425 LudwigVanQuixote

That’s not an error.

That’s making stuff up.

427 elizajane  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:59:06pm

re: #425 LudwigVanQuixote

You know once someone is wrong enough in the head to think that bringing their freak show uninvited to a child’s funeral, in order to spread their evil message of hatred and depravity, their errors in math really don’t register to me.

But it’s so rare that one can precisely quantify the crazy.

428 palomino  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:59:20pm

re: #424 Rightwingconspirator

Beckmath. It’s the Beckmath at work.

Yeah, the Census of 3400 BC wasn’t the most accurate of all time.

I think it had something to do with the evil community organizers of the day.

429 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 8:59:51pm

re: #419 ausador

Found out dad has been selectively skipping/dumping his meds when he didn’t feel like taking them, namely from the 22 blood thinner injectors he had hidden away (he gets 7 every week) instead of taking them. Once I took all his meds away from him, wrote up a schedule, and then tried to give him his evening meds he started complaining about making him take stuff he didn’t want to take.

He went into the Hospital overnight on Friday to remove a blood clot from his left leg, they failed, they could not get it out. Last time this happened was when they first put him on the blood thinner and the clot dissolved on it’s own. His doctors thought that he was taking it every day…whoops, nope, he has been stashing them instead of taking them because he says they make him feel “tired.” (sure, sure, it is the blood thinners, not the chemo, not the heart meds, not the diuretic, not any of the other 11 drugs he takes every day, and he knows it is the thinner because?)

I guess I have to institute prison ward dispensary mode now, I have to actually see him take it and then perhaps even check under his tongue afterward…the five daily injections for the insulin and blood thinner I will be giving myself, no need to check.

Oh well, I called a couple of his doctors, one more to call in the morning, basically to say “he will not take your prescription, no I don’t exactly know why, he wont talk to me except to yell at me about trying to make him drugs he doesn’t want…”

If he is not going to take some things the least I can do is get them off of his prescription record so his other doctors don’t think he is taking them and prescribing around them…

You would not believe how close I am to just saying “fuck-it” and going backpacking through Brazil or something else equally pointless but personally interesting. (I wont, it would mean letting my brother put Dad into a home.)

That is such a tough situation. You have my deepest sympathy and I have no idea what else I could say other than I feel for you.

430 3eff Jeff  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:00:10pm

re: #152 LudwigVanQuixote

Ironically, as he AI’s looked for something to do, a young graduate student explained existentialist philosophy to them

The AI’s self terminated.

Their last message was. Cruel universe to be made by an incompetent creator and then have that creator prove it was all for nothing.

It was actually quite tragic.

“Teach the bomb phenomenology…”

431 Gus  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:00:20pm

re: #421 elizajane

“16,000,000,000 - people that God killed in the flood.”

So Phelps thinks that in Noah’s time there were 10 billion more people on earth than today? Make that 10,000,000,008.

His evident way with numbers makes me feel better about the line,
“$13.8 trillion+ - national debt of doomed america”

Maybe that’s secretly off by a few orders of magnitude?

Sure it was accurate. I’m pretty sure they conducted a CENSUS and counted every single native people of the North, Central, and South American tribal nations.

//

432 freetoken  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:00:21pm

The Hair was in town:


GOP governors kick off conference in San Diego

[…]

But though the faces may be different, the message is classic Reaganesque conservatism: Government is strangling the private sector; taxes need to be cut; regulations need to be loosened or dumped; and states need to fight the federal government every step of the way.

[…]

Not all the anti-government talk was confined to the conference.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry was at a bookstore in La Jolla signing copies of his new book, “Fed Up! Our Fight to Save America From Washington.”

So glad I wasn’t in La Jolla today…

433 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:01:14pm

We now return you to your regular ( less hysterical) station.
LOL!
We’re watching…

434 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:01:32pm

re: #426 EmmmieG

That’s not an error.

That’s making stuff up.

re: #427 elizajane

But it’s so rare that one can precisely quantify the crazy.

Yes and one of the ways to quantify it is that the physicist - one of the biggest math fascists and science tyrants on this board, or any other, really doesn’t care because it pales in comparison to the other issues.

435 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:01:55pm

re: #432 freetoken

The Hair was in town:

GOP governors kick off conference in San Diego

So glad I wasn’t in La Jolla today…

I avoid La Jolla like the plague.

436 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:02:24pm

re: #434 LudwigVanQuixote

You’re referring to the fact that it’s evil-crazy all the way down?

437 Velvet Elvis  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:02:28pm

re: #419 ausador

Found out dad has been selectively skipping/dumping his meds when he didn’t feel like taking them, namely from the 22 blood thinner injectors he had hidden away (he gets 7 every week) instead of taking them. Once I took all his meds away from him, wrote up a schedule, and then tried to give him his evening meds he started complaining about making him take stuff he didn’t want to take.

He went into the Hospital overnight on Friday to remove a blood clot from his left leg, they failed, they could not get it out. Last time this happened was when they first put him on the blood thinner and the clot dissolved on it’s own. His doctors thought that he was taking it every day…whoops, nope, he has been stashing them instead of taking them because he says they make him feel “tired.” (sure, sure, it is the blood thinners, not the chemo, not the heart meds, not the diuretic, not any of the other 11 drugs he takes every day, and he knows it is the thinner because?)

I guess I have to institute prison ward dispensary mode now, I have to actually see him take it and then perhaps even check under his tongue afterward…the five daily injections for the insulin and blood thinner I will be giving myself, no need to check.

Oh well, I called a couple of his doctors, one more to call in the morning, basically to say “he will not take your prescription, no I don’t exactly know why, he wont talk to me except to yell at me about trying to make him drugs he doesn’t want…”

If he is not going to take some things the least I can do is get them off of his prescription record so his other doctors don’t think he is taking them and prescribing around them…

You would not believe how close I am to just saying “fuck-it” and going backpacking through Brazil or something else equally pointless but personally interesting. (I wont, it would mean letting my brother put Dad into a home.)

Has he seen any mental health professionals? It’s normal to stop thinking rationally when you’re terminally Ill. My dad had a cancer scare last year. Luckily he responded to treatment so he’s going to be around a few more years but he had a real hard time holding things together mentally when he was getting the radiation treatments 3x a week for 3 months.

438 palomino  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:02:53pm

re: #424 Rightwingconspirator

You live in the NoHo/Studio City area, right?

I may have steered you wrong about those rallies at Laurel Cyn and Ventura Blvd. I thought they were every week, but no one was there last Friday that I saw. Not the liberals or the tea partiers. Maybe it’s bi-weekly or just once a month. But it’s at least semi-regular and always Fri afternoon before dark.

But keep your eyes peeled. Occasionally they’re kind of entertaining.

439 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:03:00pm

re: #430 3eff Jeff

“Teach the bomb phenomenology…”

Sounds like an old movie..
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

440 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:04:18pm

re: #420 Slumbering Behemoth

*smooch*
Enjoy it.

441 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:04:23pm

re: #432 freetoken

The Hair was in town:

GOP governors kick off conference in San Diego

So glad I wasn’t in La Jolla today…

I really keep saying it and I am starting to even thinkit is a good idea.

Airlift the civilized Texans out of Austin and Houston and wherever else they are hiding. Let the state go and become the Libertarian Republic of Jesustan.

Seal the border.

After it goes full Clan of the Cave Bear in about ten years or so, rescue and re-educate the surviving children.

442 freetoken  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:04:42pm

re: #435 Mr Pancakes

I avoid La Jolla like the plague.

I’ve not been there in quite some time. I used to go downtown LaJolla at night and hit some of the spots, but that was years ago.

Mind boggling that the GOP governors come to California which, for another two months or so, has had a Republican governor for a while, one who does not conform to the corn-pone-nazi image so redolent among the tea partying faction.

443 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:05:08pm

re: #430 3eff Jeff

“Teach the bomb phenomenology…”

Excellent reference. Let there be light! You just made my evening.

444 3eff Jeff  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:05:21pm

re: #439 Rightwingconspirator

:) There’s at least one other John Carpenter fan in the house.

445 palomino  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:05:47pm

re: #432 freetoken

The Hair was in town:

GOP governors kick off conference in San Diego

So glad I wasn’t in La Jolla today…

Dump regulations? The GOP doesn’t seem to have learned anything from the housing bubble, the BP spill, the investment bank crisis, the resulting market crash, or much of anything else that’s happened since 2008.

446 Kragar  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:05:50pm

I just found “Jesus Christ, Vampire Hunter” on Netflix. It sounds awful enough I need to see it.

447 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:05:58pm

re: #419 ausador

You have the patience of a saint. I hate to ask, but does your pop have Alzheimer’s or some other age related dementia?

It’s just that my grandma does, and she often complains about certain meds that make her “feel xyz”, when such a thing would make no sense.

448 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:06:09pm

re: #436 EmmmieG

You’re referring to the fact that it’s evil-crazy all the way down?

OMG that too was a brilliant reference! Yes I am. I do, I really do love the Lizards!

449 3eff Jeff  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:06:31pm

re: #443 LudwigVanQuixote

Make that two others. I’m glad you got it.

450 Gus  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:06:45pm

re: #442 freetoken

I’ve not been there in quite some time. I used to go downtown LaJolla at night and hit some of the spots, but that was years ago.

Mind boggling that the GOP governors come to California which, for another two months or so, has had a Republican governor for a while, one who does not conform to the corn-pone-nazi image so redolent among the tea partying faction.

What are they doing in California? I thought that was the evil, commie-socialist, union controlled state?

//

451 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:07:00pm

re: #446 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I just found “Jesus Christ, Vampire Hunter” on Netflix. It sounds awful enough I need to see it.

It is actually brilliant! Trust me.

It’s alright, It’s OK everybody gets laid tonight…

452 freetoken  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:07:04pm

re: #445 palomino

They learned from this last election that there is nothing quite like incoherent rage to fuel turn-out.

453 3eff Jeff  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:07:28pm

re: #446 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I just found “Jesus Christ, Vampire Hunter” on Netflix. It sounds awful enough I need to see it.

It really is.

454 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:07:30pm

re: #422 LudwigVanQuixote

Tonight is a hard night for me. Sir.
Flirting an attention getting game.
Did I get your attention?
You know I like your attention, Sir.
In any way shape or form.
Ouch! Not THAT paddle!
LOL!

455 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:08:15pm

re: #445 palomino

Dump regulations? The GOP doesn’t seem to have learned anything from the housing bubble, the BP spill, the investment bank crisis, the resulting market crash, or much of anything else that’s happened since 2008.

Or the SnL crisis or Enron or the Air traffic controller strike….

You would think that doing the same shit over and over would learn someone…

456 freetoken  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:08:20pm

re: #450 Gus 802

Well, there wasn’t a cloud in the sky, it was 68F, the golf courses are green year round, and even the cheapest Republican can afford the Mexican hookers baggage handlers.

457 palomino  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:08:26pm

re: #452 freetoken

They learned from this last election that there is nothing quite like incoherent rage to fuel turn-out.

True, they certainly exploited that better in 2010 than any other time in my life.

And they won the phony messaging wars by a mile this time.

458 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:08:49pm

re: #454 Floral Giraffe

Tonight is a hard night for me. Sir.
Flirting an attention getting game.
Did I get your attention?
You know I like your attention, Sir.
In any way shape or form.
Ouch! Not THAT paddle!
LOL!

The subbie asks to be beaten. The Dom says no.

459 Kragar  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:08:51pm

Speaking of movies, I’m going to have to see this when it comes out.

Youtube Video
460 Gus  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:09:42pm

Bob: Gal darn California. Blankity, blank liberals all over the place. Damn Jerry Brown left wing union controlled moonbat socialist Oakland pinko. Damn, gay agenda San Francisco blankity blank anti-military commie pinko city.

Ted: So. Where are you going on vacation?

Bob: San Francisco.

//

461 palomino  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:10:04pm

re: #455 LudwigVanQuixote

Or the SnL crisis or Enron or the Air traffic controller strike…

You would think that doing the same shit over and over would learn someone…

Yeah, but that stuff happened more than two years ago, so they can’t be expected to remember.

They seem to remember only three things from our past: 9/11, WWII, and the founding fathers.

462 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:10:13pm

re: #451 LudwigVanQuixote

It is actually brilliant! Trust me.

It’s alright, It’s OK everybody gets laid tonight…

PROMISE?
LOL!
Sir.
I am cracking up here, hope you are too!

463 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:12:49pm

re: #419 ausador

You are in a tough as hell situation, and dealing with it. That says a lot. Wish you the best.

464 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:13:12pm

re: #459 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Heard how awful, epic worst evah awful Skyline is?
OMG

SNIP
A mess of a movie that reaches a completely ridiculous and unexpected (but not in a good way) conclusion.

465 palomino  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:13:48pm

re: #460 Gus 802

Bob: Gal darn California. Blankity, blank liberals all over the place. Damn Jerry Brown left wing union controlled moonbat socialist Oakland pinko. Damn, gay agenda San Francisco blankity blank anti-military commie pinko city.

Ted: So. Where are you going on vacation?

Bob: San Francisco.

//

True, but out here on the godless left coast we at least believe in evolution and AGW.

And other liberal insanities like public transportation (OK, maybe just in northern CA).

466 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:13:48pm

re: #428 palomino

Yeah, the Census of 3400 BC wasn’t the most accurate of all time.

I think it had something to do with the evil community organizers of the day.

Yes, even in those days the evil that is ACORN was hard at work.

//

467 Gus  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:14:17pm

Adorable Little Black Kitten- NOMNOMNOM

Youtube Video
468 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:14:23pm

Good night,all.
Twas fun.
Wish you were here.
But I’ll be thinking of you.
Sleep tight.
Ludwig, be well, dear.

469 Gus  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:14:54pm

Bye Ms. FG!

470 freetoken  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:15:31pm

WE’RE SAFE!! The Hulk is here to help protect us from the invasion…

“Hulk” actor joins Arizona sheriff’s posse

Television ‘Hulk’ actor Lou Ferrigno has joined an Arizona sheriff’s posse targeting illegal immigrants in the Phoenix valley area, the sheriff’s office said on Wednesday.

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said Ferrigno, 59, a body builder who donned green makeup to star in the popular 1970s television series ‘The Incredible Hulk,’ was among 56 people sworn in as volunteers for an armed immigration posse.

Arpaio said the posse would work with sheriff’s deputies in operations targeting smugglers and businesses suspected of employing illegal immigrants in the county, among other duties.

Yeah, so now Arpaio has an armed gang going around to businesses and doing inspections of businesses. What ever could go wrong?

471 Kragar  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:16:33pm

re: #464 Rightwingconspirator

Heard how awful, epic worst evah awful Skyline is?
OMG

SNIP
A mess of a movie that reaches a completely ridiculous and unexpected (but not in a good way) conclusion.

I’ve heard.

Sony is suing Skyline.

Sony Pictures Entertainment is contemplating legal action against Greg and Colin Strause, the directors of Skyline and the owners of Hydraulx Filmz – a visual effects company that contributed to Battle: Los Angeles.

According to Deadline, Sony feels that the Strause brothers should have given them a heads up about their plans to make Skyline before accepting the FX gig on Battle: Los Angeles, which gave them access to the film’s script, storyboards, and animatics.

More to the point, Sony is wondering if Battle: Los Angeles served as inspiration for the brothers to make Skyline and if they used the studio’s resources to polish up the effects on their modestly-budgeted thriller.

In Skyline, ”strange lights descend on the city of Los Angeles, drawing people outside like moths to a flame, where an extraterrestrial force proceeds to swallow the entire human population off the face of the earth.” The story is told from the point of view of four friends who have just returned from a night of partying and the majority of it was shot in Greg Strause’s home.

At the Skyline Comic-Con panel, the brothers cited Paranormal Activity as the main inspiration for their approach to the film. The independent production gave them the freedom to cast lesser-known actors and kept them free from studio interference.

Comic-Con attendees weren’t the only ones taking notice of Skyline. While the film had already blipped on Sony’s radar when Relativity Media acquired the rights back in May, the debut of its trailer and the accompanying panel were what convinced the studio to explore its legal options.

472 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:18:09pm

re: #467 Gus 802

Adorable Little Black Kitten- NOMNOMNOM


[Video]

Basement cats kitten video. That’s gotta be the explanation.

473 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:18:21pm

re: #455 LudwigVanQuixote

Or the SnL crisis or Enron or the Air traffic controller strike…

You would think that doing the same shit over and over would learn someone…

Reagan’s actions in the air traffic controller’s strike were decent and appropriate, and they also sent a message to the world that he would not be pushed around. What lessons do you think were not learned in those two financial crises.

474 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:18:35pm

re: #366 SanFranciscoZionist

I don’t think anyone minds. I’ve seen a Father Coughlin apologist on this website, but I have never seen anyone say a good work about the Phelpsers.

My mother once gave me the lecture about saying something nice or not saying anything at all. She went on to say that you can find something nice to say about almost anyone.

Being a surly 13 year old at the time I asked her if she could say anything nice about Hamas.

She gave me a look. Thought a moment and said:

Any man who thinks he can satisfy 72 women has a lot of self confidence.

475 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:20:18pm

re: #474 LudwigVanQuixote

My mother once gave me the lecture about saying something nice or not saying anything at all. She went on to say that you can find something nice to say about almost anyone.

Being a surly 13 year old at the time I asked her if she could say anything nice about Hamas.

She gave me a look. Thought a moment and said:

Any man who thinks he can satisfy 72 women has a lot of self confidence.

Yea but they are virgins …….. they wouldn’t know any better.

476 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:20:49pm

re: #462 Floral Giraffe

PROMISE?
LOL!
Sir.
I am cracking up here, hope you are too!

I am… It is also the song from that movie.

Youtube Video
477 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:21:12pm

re: #432 freetoken

The Hair was in town:

GOP governors kick off conference in San Diego

So glad I wasn’t in La Jolla today…

Oh my, I was. Thank cthulhu that I had no clue. Work right down the street from Warwick’s.

478 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:21:42pm

re: #436 EmmmieG

You’re referring to the fact that it’s evil-crazy turtles all the way down?

FTFY

“We learnt long ago that the inscrutable universe turns upon an axis of suffering, because pain is inevitable.”

-Fred Phelps, Dark Eldar Haemonculus - aka Urien Rakarth

479 Kragar  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:24:30pm

re: #477 Stanley Sea

Oh my, I was. Thank cthulhu that I had no clue. Work right down the street from Warwick’s.

I’ve decided to just declare my allegiance to the Trickster god in all his forms. Loki, Coyote, Nyarlethotep, Tzeentch, etc.

480 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:25:02pm

re: #477 Stanley Sea

Oh my, I was. Thank cthulhu that I had no clue. Work right down the street from Warwick’s.

You drive down 5? That must be lovely.

481 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:25:22pm

re: #478 goddamnedfrank

FTFY

For once I’m going to upding you for the excellent Warhammer 40K reference.

482 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:26:06pm

re: #479 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I’ve decided to just declare my allegiance to the Trickster god in all his forms. Loki, Coyote, Nyarlethotep, Tzeentch, etc.

The Prophet Carrot Top - PBUH

483 Kragar  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:26:18pm

re: #478 goddamnedfrank

FTFY

LOL. I was always picturing the Phelps as a Redemptionist cult, but Dark Eldar work in an odd way.

485 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:27:56pm

re: #483 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

LOL. I was always picturing the Phelps as a Redemptionist cult, but Dark Eldar work in an odd way.

It also lets you sic the Space Marines on him. Although I’d just go Battle Fleet Gothic and nuke his compound from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

486 Alaska Kim  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:29:28pm

Hi guys, I hope you don’t mind an OT question, but was curious if any of you have developed restless leg syndrome from antihistamines like benadryl. Also, any comments on taking Ambien or Zoloft??

487 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:30:20pm

re: #486 Alaska Kim

Hi guys, I hope you don’t mind an OT question, but was curious if any of you have developed restless leg syndrome from antihistamines like benadryl. Also, any comments on taking Ambien or Zoloft??

I do using Celexa….. it sucks.

488 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:31:49pm

re: #447 Slumbering Behemoth

You have the patience of a saint. I hate to ask, but does your pop have Alzheimer’s or some other age related dementia?

It’s just that my grandma does, and she often complains about certain meds that make her “feel xyz”, when such a thing would make no sense.

I did not think so, he has seemed perfectly rational in most regards, but this argument over the meds that went on for hours this afternoon has kind of got me wondering. He certainly didn’t sound very rational about it at times.

Still I’m willing to give him some credit in that I just took more of his free choice away from him by taking control of all his medications, he should be upset, most especially if he is rational. The problem is I cannot allow him to pick and chose what medications to take especially the blood thinner that he absolutely has to take every day, I would hate to see him get a leg amputation, which is entirely possible at this point, simply because he dislikes the side effects of his medication. Rationally you would think he would dislike losing his left leg considerably more…

489 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:32:19pm

re: #483 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

LOL. I was always picturing the Phelps as a Redemptionist cult, but Dark Eldar work in an odd way.

I’m re-painting Da Red Gobbo right now, my army of Grot Rebelz attack at dawn.

490 sod  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:33:29pm

I’ve been waiting for an evolution thread to mention The Black Atlantic whose “Reverence for Fallen Trees” album is just fantastic IMHO.

The lyrics to “Madagascar” are below. I can’t figure out if it’s a pro-evolution or pro-creation song. Any opinions?? I encourage you to go the site above and download the entire album for free, it really is beautiful stuff.


Oh, great and wondrous world
How the dice of evolution came
Up with a surprise
To make these tiny particles come alive

Alive, come alive
Alive, alive
Alive, come alive
Alive, alive

And for them to drape all things
With a cosmic blanket of meaning
When dust cherishes no memories
Makes you wonder

Whether man needs the lie
Like air to survive
Man needs the lie
Like air to survive

491 Alaska Kim  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:34:56pm

re: #487 Mr Pancakes

I just started using ambien a week ago, it puts me right to sleep. but i’m groggy the next day and bitchy. I don’t need any help in that department.

492 Kragar  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:35:10pm

re: #485 Dark_Falcon

It also lets you sic the Space Marines on him. Although I’d just go Battle Fleet Gothic and nuke his compound from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

You know very well that the Imperium has never had a problem unleashing the Astartes on its own people.

493 freetoken  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:35:26pm

LVQ, if you’re still here, the following story is an example of how the vested interests against doing anything about AGW will work:

Tory Senate overturns opposition bill for first time on climate change

Pretty sneaky really, if you read the details. Just wait until enough of the opposition is out of town then hold a snap vote.

The Canadian Senate is a very un-democratic institution, even more so than the original US Senate. No wonder the wingnuts now want to make the US Senate go back to unelected Senators.

494 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:35:44pm

re: #486 Alaska Kim

Hi guys, I hope you don’t mind an OT question, but was curious if any of you have developed restless leg syndrome from antihistamines like benadryl. Also, any comments on taking Ambien or Zoloft??

I take Zoloft (in the am) and Ambien at night; they are a great help. Benadryl does not give me restless leg syndrome.

495 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:36:16pm

re: #491 Alaska Kim

I just started using ambien a week ago, it puts me right to sleep. but i’m groggy the next day and bitchy. I don’t need any help in that department.

Funny…… I’ll keep that one away from my wife.

496 Alaska Kim  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:36:47pm

re: #494 Alouette

why do you take a sleep aid in the morning???

497 lostlakehiker  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:37:37pm

I come from the future too, but I go and change it. So Palin loses the recount after all, because there weren’t/won’t be/whatever any riots.

Also, and as hors d’ouvres, the CSC wins its case against the discovery institute.

And gold prices go up and up and up. And down. Ah, how much, you ask? Wait and see. Bwah hah hah.

//

498 Alaska Kim  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:37:59pm

re: #495 Mr Pancakes

good idea! i’m talking warpath!

499 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:38:13pm

re: #496 Alaska Kim

why do you take a sleep aid in the morning???

Zoloft is an anti-depressant.

500 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:38:40pm

re: #488 ausador

I did not think so, he has seemed perfectly rational in most regards, but this argument over the meds that went on for hours this afternoon has kind of got me wondering. He certainly didn’t sound very rational about it at times.

Still I’m willing to give him some credit in that I just took more of his free choice away from him by taking control of all his medications, he should be upset, most especially if he is rational. The problem is I cannot allow him to pick and chose what medications to take especially the blood thinner that he absolutely has to take every day, I would hate to see him get a leg amputation, which is entirely possible at this point, simply because he dislikes the side effects of his medication. Rationally you would think he would dislike losing his left leg considerably more…

For a few months before he passed, my dad had to carry around an oxygen tank. He hated, hated, hated being connected to it by nasal cannula. I think he was so miserable that he yearned to be set free. But he never refused to take any of the meds he was prescribed.

501 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:39:14pm

re: #474 LudwigVanQuixote

Any man who thinks he can satisfy 72 women has a lot of self confidence.

That, or an awful lot of time. I’m not sure an eternity would do, in most cases.

Kind of reminds me of an old bit a comedian did on threesomes. “Threesomes? Now why would I want two unsatisfied women in bed with me?”

502 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:39:28pm

re: #480 Mr Pancakes

You drive down 5? That must be lovely.

Actually relocated South, now I drive North! It’s bettah.

503 Alaska Kim  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:40:16pm

re: #499 Mr Pancakes

Oops, I meant to ask about Ambien or LUNESTA……

504 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:41:12pm

re: #502 Stanley Sea

Actually relocated South, now I drive North! It’s bettah.

I thought you were in O’side…….. south? I’m sure it’s bettah.

505 lostlakehiker  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:42:00pm

re: #395 Floral Giraffe

Well, the Unmarried ones don’t or do know what they are missing.
Someone to love, at home.
Who shares a lot of the same tastes.
And likes their back scritched.
I would like one of those.
A lot.
I will be shopping in my neigborhood, next year.
I welcome all Lizards.

And the married ones know. We’re not in the market but we’re market analysts. :-)

You’re putting the good stuff in the store window. A qualified buyer will show up sooner or later.

506 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:42:47pm

re: #503 Alaska Kim

Oops, I meant to ask about Ambien or LUNESTA…

She takes Ambien at night……. which is probably a good time to take it.

507 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:43:40pm

We are asking people who wish to make a donation in my dad’s memory, to consider MEMRI.org and their excellent work, and also my non-profit historical research foundation, the Jewish-American History Documentation Foundation, a critical resource for teachers.

508 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:43:42pm

re: #492 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You know very well that the Imperium has never had a problem unleashing the Astartes on its own people.

I know. But Phelps calls for a special punishment. Perhaps fed alive to the Chaos Demons he claims to fight but actually serves?

509 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:44:21pm

re: #503 Alaska Kim

Oops, I meant to ask about Ambien or LUNESTA…

Lunesta leaves a really bad taste in your mouth,

510 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:47:55pm

re: #488 ausador

It could just be as that other Lizard said, a bit of irrationality while dealing with a debilitating therapy (chemo).

However…

Still I’m willing to give him some credit in that I just took more of his free choice away from him by taking control of all his medications, he should be upset, most especially if he is rational.

My grandma was and still is the same way. She simply could not give up driving. She saw it as her freedom being taken away, yet she was not rational enough to see how dangerous she had become behind the wheel.

Sorry, I hate to be a bummer. And I’m not trying to imply that your dad does have some kind of dementia. But forewarned is forearmed.

I truly hope for your sake and his that he does not. It’s a painful thing to deal with for all involved.

As I said, you have the patience of a saint. I just wish you had more support from your siblings. If I thought it would do any good to knock some sense into their heads, I would do it myself for your sake.

511 Alaska Kim  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:48:18pm

re: #509 Alouette

i’ve read that.

512 Kragar  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:50:34pm

re: #509 Alouette

Lunesta leaves a really bad taste in your mouth,

Eh, I just swallow the pill faster

513 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:54:45pm

Goodnight, all.

514 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:57:41pm

re: #512 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Eh, I just swallow the pill faster

I’m thinking that not it.

515 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 9:58:52pm

re: #514 Mr Pancakes

I’m thinking that not it.

+’s

516 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 10:01:48pm

re: #493 freetoken

LVQ, if you’re still here, the following story is an example of how the vested interests against doing anything about AGW will work:

Tory Senate overturns opposition bill for first time on climate change

Pretty sneaky really, if you read the details. Just wait until enough of the opposition is out of town then hold a snap vote.

The Canadian Senate is a very un-democratic institution, even more so than the original US Senate. No wonder the wingnuts now want to make the US Senate go back to unelected Senators.

Dear G-d. They really will stoop to no low.

And apparently Canada has their equivalent of GOP douches also.

517 elizajane  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 10:04:18pm

re: #493 freetoken

LVQ, if you’re still here, the following story is an example of how the vested interests against doing anything about AGW will work:

Tory Senate overturns opposition bill for first time on climate change

Pretty sneaky really, if you read the details. Just wait until enough of the opposition is out of town then hold a snap vote.

The Canadian Senate is a very un-democratic institution, even more so than the original US Senate. No wonder the wingnuts now want to make the US Senate go back to unelected Senators.

That is truly shocking.
But you don’t need to go making Ludwig any more bleak about the future than he was at the beginning of this thread!

518 freetoken  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 10:04:30pm

re: #516 LudwigVanQuixote

D
And apparently Canada has their equivalent of GOP douches also.

The denier-industry in Canada is tied into the US clique.

519 Kragar  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 10:09:07pm

Green Lantern trailer is out

Youtube Video
520 Mr Pancakes  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 10:15:28pm

Goodnight all……. you too Obdi……. didn’t mean to pick on you man.

Youtube Video
521 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 10:21:34pm

re: #518 freetoken

Of course, but the United States and Canada are tied together anyways. We influence one another, and that includes our politics in many cases. The two of us are like Pluto and Charon.

522 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Nov 17, 2010 10:22:49pm

I’m out too. See ya!

523 Obdicut  Thu, Nov 18, 2010 3:13:42am

re: #520 Mr Pancakes

Just stop being creepy and engaging in fantasies about my death, please.

524 Nemesis6  Thu, Nov 18, 2010 4:23:35am

American Freedom Alliance? Doubleplusgood.

525 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Nov 18, 2010 8:09:56am

re: #524 Nemesis6

American Freedom Alliance? Doubleplusgood.

they only raise money through selling apple pies and flag pins…………….


/

526 Mr Pancakes  Thu, Nov 18, 2010 3:27:09pm

re: #523 Obdicut

Just stop being creepy and engaging in fantasies about my death, please.

Gawd you’re goofy.


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