1 Targetpractice  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 5:38:02pm

My mind...it's blown!

//

2 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 5:39:53pm

::: looking at a wooden yo-yo ::: hmm I can just barely do "walk the dog." I feel so insignificant. //

3 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 5:47:49pm

Pretty cool people still yo yo.

4 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 5:50:22pm

NASA Gets Two Formerly Secret Spy Telescopes More Powerful Than Hubble

What’s better than the Hubble Space Telescope? Try two, more powerful spy space telescopes given, with few to no strings attached, to NASA, by a little-known U.S. intelligence agency.

The scenario sounds like the pitch for a sci-fi story, but it’s now become reality thanks to the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), the 50-year-old U.S. agency responsible for managing all of America’s spy satellites.

On Monday, NASA officials confirmed that they had accepted from the NRO a generous donation of two complete, but previously unused and presently grounded orbital telescopes, each of which is capable of surveying an area 100 times larger than that of the Hubble Space Telescope, NASA’s current workhorse.

“In January of 2011, I got a phone call [from NRO] saying, ‘we have some qualified space hardware that we need to dispose of or let someone else take advantage of,’” explained Michael Moore, NASA’s acting deputy director of astrophysics, in a conference call with reporters on Monday afternoon.

“There were no strings attached, we didn’t physically move anything, we just swapped a piece of paper,” Moore added.

5 Targetpractice  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 5:54:37pm

re: #4 Kragar

NASA Gets Two Formerly Secret Spy Telescopes More Powerful Than Hubble

Sounds like the case of the guy reading "Chevy" in the want ads and finding out that the little old lady's got a mint-condition '58 Corvette hiding under a tarp in the garage.

6 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 5:59:37pm

Slight tech note reprise: embedded tweets now display properly in the Spy.

7 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:00:20pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Slight tech note reprise: embedded tweets now display properly in the Spy.

I saw that on the previous thread. Thank you for taking care of us Spy-loving lizards. Although I doubt there's terribly many besides me who actually use it.

8 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:04:33pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

Sounds like the case of the guy reading "Chevy" in the want ads and finding out that the little old lady's got a mint-condition '58 Corvette hiding under a tarp in the garage.

Makes you wonder what they were looking at.

9 bratwurst  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:05:06pm
10 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:05:52pm

re: #9 bratwurst

The players certainly arn't.

11 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:08:18pm

I want to guess some old time lizards who are never around but will show up tomorrow night if their team (Walker) wins...

12 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:10:56pm

Update on today's drone strike: U.S. strike said to target al-Qaeda’s No. 2

U.S. missiles killed more than a dozen people in northwestern Pakistan early Monday in a strike that apparently was aimed at al-Qaeda’s No. 2 leader, the charismatic and influential jihadist known as Abu Yahya al-Libi, U.S. and Pakistani officials said.
...
“This would be a major blow to ‘core’ al-Qaeda, removing the No. 2 leader twice in less than a year,” said a senior U.S. official with access to classified reports from Pakistan, where officials from both countries were working to ascertain Libi’s fate.

13 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:13:38pm

re: #12 Killgore Trout

Update on today's drone strike: U.S. strike said to target al-Qaeda’s No. 2

I always thought #2 tried harder.

14 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:14:22pm

re: #11 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

I want to guess some old time lizards who are never around but will show up tomorrow night if their team (Walker) wins...

Maybe, but my guess is those who stuck with LGF past the break with the right aren't big fans of Walker anyways. They've been driven off by the purity patrol, not much incentive to come back to gloat about something they don't care about.

15 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:15:13pm

re: #9 bratwurst

[Embedded content]

The players are members of a union. The rich teams have their profits redistributed to the poorer teams.

16 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:15:34pm

re: #13 b_sharp

I always thought #2 tried harder.

Think of all the advancement possibilities for Al Qaeda middle management. The prospects for advancement are huge.

17 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:17:40pm

re: #16 Killgore Trout

Think of all the advancement possibilities for Al Qaeda middle management. The prospects for advancement are huge.

Quaeda Number 2 inherits the coveted red shirt.

18 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:20:50pm

re: #16 Killgore Trout

Think of all the advancement possibilities for Al Qaeda middle management. The prospects for advancement are huge.

Yeah, but the retirement package sucks.

19 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:20:51pm

Al Jazz coverage of the drone Strike
Deaths in latest drone strike in Pakistan

Liveleak Video
20 gwangung  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:24:17pm

re: #15 b_sharp

The players are members of a union. The rich teams have their profits redistributed to the poorer teams.

Um, no kidding.

Was the original comment made seriously? Do these folks even know how things work?

I know, I know, SATSQ....

21 darthstar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:25:34pm

This is what happens when you're surrounded by wingnuts and teabaggers. First, "Amercia", then "sneak-peak", and now it's "offical"...Romney's team can't spell.

22 Interesting Times  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:26:36pm

re: #20 gwangung

Was the original comment made seriously?

If you mean the tweet from TeaPartyCat, he's a parody account. The dead giveaway is where he describes himself in his profile as "a Colbert Conservative."

23 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:27:15pm

re: #14 Killgore Trout

Maybe, but my guess is those who stuck with LGF past the break with the right aren't big fans of Walker anyways. They've been driven off by the purity patrol, not much incentive to come back to gloat about something they don't care about.

The purity patrol? Nice label. I think of the birth control bishops when I hear that term.

24 Varek Raith  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:27:26pm

re: #21 darthstar

This is what happens when you're surrounded by wingnuts and teabaggers. First, "Amercia", then "sneak-peak", and now it's "offical"...Romney's team can't spell.

[Embedded content]

I kan haz spelchek?

25 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:27:43pm

re: #22 Interesting Times

If you mean the tweet from TeaPartyCat, he's a parody account. The dead giveaway is where he describes himself in his profile as "a Colbert Conservative."

It is way too early/late to deal with a POE.

26 Gus  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:30:20pm

re: #24 Varek Raith

I kan haz spelchek?

Spelling iz elitist!

27 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:31:02pm

re: #24 Varek Raith

I kan haz spelchek?

Spell checks and proper spelling are just big government regulations enforced by the oppressive Department of Education.

Just like Hitler.

Image: Grammar-Nazi-1613.png

28 jaunte  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:32:03pm

re: #21 darthstar

This is what happens when you're surrounded by wingnuts and teabaggers. First, "Amercia", then "sneak-peak", and now it's "offical"...Romney's team can't spell.

Charter schools.

29 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:33:27pm

Apparently Rmoney is already putting together his transition team. Will the media call him arrogant and presumptive like they would have called Obama if he had a transition team back June of 2008?

I doubt it. IOKIYAR.

30 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:33:39pm

re: #28 jaunte

Charter schools.

We need vouchers to save us from the scourge of grammatical oppression!

31 jaunte  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:34:46pm

re: #30 Kragar

"Let a thousand spellings bloom!"

32 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:35:51pm

re: #31 jaunte

"Let a thousand spellings bloom!"

Let a thozan spelins blum!

33 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:38:19pm

re: #32 Kragar

Let a thozan spelins blum!

let a thorazine specials bum?

Whazat?

34 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:38:56pm

Mitt Romney: Take a peak at an offical Amercian!

35 jaunte  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:39:05pm

re: #32 Kragar

36 jaunte  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:39:48pm

Teh Edicaton Predisent.

37 Achilles Tang  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:40:02pm

re: #16 Killgore Trout

Think of all the advancement possibilities for Al Qaeda middle management. The prospects for advancement are huge.

Yeah, in sales it's called churn and burn.

38 Targetpractice  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:40:08pm

re: #17 Decatur Deb

Quaeda Number 2 inherits the coveted red shirt.

And brown pants.

39 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:41:30pm

re: #36 jaunte

Teh Edicaton Predisent.

Future Precedent Romney is not amused!

40 gwangung  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:43:03pm

re: #22 Interesting Times

Ah, I see. As they say, they're so laughable, that they're indistinguishable from unsubtle parodies.

42 gwangung  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:44:11pm

re: #21 darthstar

This is what happens when you're surrounded by wingnuts and teabaggers. First, "Amercia", then "sneak-peak", and now it's "offical"...Romney's team can't spell.

[Embedded content]

Pathetic.

If they're this careless with the small stuff, when they have time to think, then guess what'll happen when they're under pressure and the clock is ticking.

43 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:46:10pm

re: #42 gwangung

Pathetic.

If they're this careless with the small stuff, when they have time to think, then guess what'll happen when they're under pressure and the clock is ticking.

"President Romney just authorized nuclear bombardment of Iraq... IRAN! HE MEANT IRAN!"

44 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:47:41pm

re: #41 jaunte

Thousands mourn victims of Tiananmen Square massacre in Hong Kong candle-lit vigil

Not welcome at OWS protests...
Image: 610x.jpg

45 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:48:50pm

re: #44 Killgore Trout

Not welcome at OWS protests...
Image: 610x.jpg

WTFYTAW?

46 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:50:08pm

Ironic Che Sighting
Image: 610x.jpg

47 jaunte  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:50:08pm

Hong Kong vigil as China rounds up Tiananmen activists

China still considers the Tiananmen demonstrations a "counter-revolutionary rebellion" and has refused to acknowledge any wrongdoing or consider compensation for those killed.

The government attempts to block any public discussion or remembrance of the events by hiding away key dissidents in the run-up to June 4, taking them into custody or placing them under house arrest.

48 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:53:43pm

re: #41 jaunte

And I'm not sure how the Shanghai Stock Exchange managed to get this to happen, but it ended the day down 64.89, which if translated to date form would be the date that the crackdown began - 6/4/89

And the composite figure apparently opened today at 2,346.98, which if read backwards (right to left) would be 89, 6/4, 23rd anniversary.

Oh, and the censors across China were having a field day trying to block any and all references to the crackdown.

49 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:54:30pm

oops, I fucked up my ironic Che sighting
Corrected: Image: 610x.jpg

50 jaunte  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 6:57:30pm

re: #48 lawhawk

Sensitive Words: The Tiananmen Edition

ire (火): as in candle flame (烛火), torch (火炬), oil lamp (圣火)
candle (烛): as in [wax] candle (蜡烛), candlelight (烛光); Sina Weibo removed the candle emoticon over the weekend.
blood (血): as in bloody suppression (血腥镇压), bloody incident (流血事件)
people (民): as in People’s Liberation Army (人民解放军), democracy (民主)
movement (运): as in democracy movement (民运), student movement (学运)
move (动): as in student movement (如学生运动), memorial event (悼念活动), mobilize troops (出动军队)
government (政): as in Fang Zheng(方政), regimental commissar (团政委), one-party dictatorship (一党专政)
crush (碾): as in Fang Zheng‘s legs were crushed (方政被碾断双腿), crush and destroy (碾毁)
tǎn (坦): as in tank (坦克)
ceremony (祭): as in ceremony for Tiananmen victims (祭奠六四遇难者)

Numerals and Words Related to the Date of the Tiananmen Massacre:

8, 8 (八), eight (捌), eight: All forms of “eight” and other forms of the numbers below.
9, 9 (九), nine (玖), nine
6, 6 (六), six (陆), six
4, 4 (四), four (肆), four
23, 23 (廿三), 23 (二十三): Today is the 23rd anniversary of the massacre.
35, 35 (三十五): Netizens call today May 35th to get around the censors.

Other Related Terms:

etc. etc.

51 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:01:35pm

Going to rig an 8x elbow scope to project tomorrow's transit of Venus. Not putting much into it, because we are offered 60% cloud cover.

52 Gus  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:01:47pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

oops, I fucked up my ironic Che sighting
Corrected: Image: 610x.jpg

I'm curious why you're motivated to ridicule these kids. Especially given what this is all about.

53 Gus  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:05:42pm

Image: x999.jpg

Fang Zheng from mainland China holds flowers during a candlelight vigil at Hong Kong's Victoria Park June 4, 2012 to commemorate those who died during the military crackdown of the pro-democracy movement at Beijing's Tiananmen Square in June 4, 1989. Fang lost his legs after being crushed by a tank in Beijing during the 1989 crackdown. Monday marks the 23rd anniversary of the event.

54 Cheechako  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:08:30pm

re: #4 Kragar

NASA Gets Two Formerly Secret Spy Telescopes More Powerful Than Hubble

If these are surplus spy telescopes, think about what NRO has probably replaced them with.

55 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:11:03pm

re: #52 Gus

I'm curious why you're motivated to ridicule these kids. Especially given what this is all about.

The protesters in Hong Kong? They certainly have a righteous cause but adopting theWestern Leftist misconceptions of Che is historically ignorant. He was not a freedom fighter. He was ruthless mercenary and instrumental in creating generations of communist hell in Cuba. Not the kind of person they should be celebrating in opposing the same kind of hellish oppression in China.
P.S. I'm not really under the impression that was a serious question. You knew what my reply was going to be.

56 jaunte  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:11:45pm

re: #54 Cheechako

If these are surplus spy telescopes, think about what NRO has probably replaced them with.

For a second there I imagined Jonah Goldberg and Katherine Jean Lopez peeking in the window.

57 Gus  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:13:56pm

re: #55 Killgore Trout

The protesters in Hong Kong? They certainly have a righteous cause but adopting theWestern Leftist misconceptions of Che is historically ignorant. He was not a freedom fighter. He was ruthless mercenary and instrumental in creating generations of communist hell in Cuba. Not the kind of person they should be celebrating in opposing the same kind of hellish oppression in China.
P.S. I'm not really under the impression that was a serious question. You knew what my reply was going to be.

Hey, at least they're out there speaking out and getting involved instead of sitting around the house all day criticizing other people from behind a computer screen all day long. I don't think they need your critique and they're doing fine just as they are. One kid with a Che t-shirt and you go off like some writer for Breitbart.com. Talk about a being a bitter old cynic.

58 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:14:12pm

re: #54 Cheechako

What's the old saw? Why buy one when you can get two at twice the price? Or, you didn't think that a hammer cost $250 and a toilet seat really cost $500 did you? /

Seriously though, it does raise some interesting questions about the NRO capabilities and why these were considered surplus to be transferred to NASA. Have they figured out new ways to get even higher resolution, software/hardware that does the job even faster than the processing power on these assemblies, or is it that these satellite packages have been on the ground long enough that it doesn't make sense to use them for spy purposes and is more befitting of a NASA mission.

It's been long believed that the NRO has a bunch of satellites that have Hubble-type capabilities turned towards the Earth so as to resolve features down to inches. This reinforces that belief.

59 Digital Display  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:15:08pm

Half time Thunder - Spurs game.. I think my voice is going out..Yelling at the TV....Big time stakes tonight..
Poor Winston.. He doesn't have a clue why I am screaming at the tube..Although, He is use to it by now. Except..I can still look at him now and Yell, KOBE! And he will hide under the bed till the coast is clear..

60 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:15:10pm

re: #51 Decatur Deb

Not even going to bother here since we're probably going to have cloud cover in any event - and I don't have the right gear to shoot it in any event.

61 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:15:56pm

re: #51 Decatur Deb

Going to rig an 8x elbow scope to project tomorrow's transit of Venus. Not putting much into it, because we are offered 60% cloud cover.

Is the world going to end? Are all the women going to realize men are superfluous?

62 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:18:52pm

re: #55 Killgore Trout

The protesters in Hong Kong? They certainly have a righteous cause but adopting theWestern Leftist misconceptions of Che is historically ignorant. He was not a freedom fighter. He was ruthless mercenary and instrumental in creating generations of communist hell in Cuba. Not the kind of person they should be celebrating in opposing the same kind of hellish oppression in China.
P.S. I'm not really under the impression that was a serious question. You knew what my reply was going to be.

You mean he didn't help liberate the people from Batista?

63 jaunte  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:22:33pm
64 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:23:43pm

re: #63 jaunte

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Don't you need to know how to spell to recognize a typo?

65 jaunte  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:24:10pm

re: #64 b_sharp

It's a challinge.

66 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:30:05pm

re: #65 jaunte

It's a challinge.

That is just offal.

67 Cheechako  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:33:09pm

re: #58 lawhawk


I agree. I think some of the satellite imagery used in the movies is just a sample of reality.

68 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:34:43pm

re: #57 Gus

Hey, at least they're out there speaking out and getting involved instead of sitting around the house all day criticizing other people from behind a computer screen all day long.

I've been to China, Hong Kong and Tibet. I've talked with the people and have a decent idea of what they're about.

69 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:35:41pm

One big happy tent update..

The Twitter catfight between Dana Loesch and Debbie Schlussel was pretty good, but the GOP vs Ron Paul delegate melee in Louisiana was much more entertaining. Here is a snip from the story at Alex Jones' Prison Planet.com site. Goodwin strikes again..

I'm sure a speech or two from Mitt will mend all the fences and get all the GOPers singing Kumbaya again in the big tent.

Prior to the 1933 election, the soon to be democratically elected leader of Germany had his goons raid the offices of opposition parties. On the eve of the election, the Nazis arranged to have a fire set in the Reichstag and then exploited this sensationalistic event to call for granting Hitler dictatorial powers....

Republicans have not called for arresting and executing Ron Paul and his supporters at state conventions, but the mindset is incipient. As history repeatedly demonstrates, it is a short leap from the sort of thuggish behavior demonstrated over the weekend in Louisiana to full-blown fascist mass arrests, political concentration camps, and executions.

70 jaunte  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:37:12pm

Amazing (or maybe not) dishonesty from Republicans on the House Committee on Natural Resources:

Maria was going to show another picture to the House subcommittee yesterday, this photo, which is a photo of a five year old child bathing in that kind of brown, poisonous water. The child is naked, as you normally are when you bathe. I’d invite you to click that link, and think about what, if anything, distresses you about it.

The photo was taken by photojournalist Katie Falkenberg, who gave it this caption:

Erica and Rully Urias must bathe their daughter, Makayla, age 5, in contaminated water that is the color of tea. Their water has been tested and contains high levels of arsenic. The family attributes this water problem primarily to the blasting which they believe has disrupted the water table and cracked the casing in their well, allowing seepage of heavy metals into their water, and also to the runoff from the mountaintop removal sites surrounding their home. The coal company that mines the land around their home has never admitted to causing this problem, but they do supply the family with bottled water for drinking and cooking. Contaminated and colored water in has occurred in other coalfield communities as well where mountaintop mining is practiced.
....
Republicans on the subcommittee alerted the capitol police (according to Spencer Pederson, a spokesman for GOP panel members), and after the hearing, the capitol police took Maria aside for questioning about “child pornography.”
[Link: thenewinquiry.com...]

71 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:37:51pm

re: #68 Killgore Trout

I've been to China, Hong Kong and Tibet. I've talked with the people and have a decent idea of what they're about.

Really?

I've been to the US, so I know what they're about.
My daughter has been to Ireland, so she knows what they're about.
My son has been to Spain, so he knows what they are about.

72 blueraven  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:46:11pm

re: #68 Killgore Trout

I've been to China, Hong Kong and Tibet. I've talked with the people and have a decent idea of what they're about.

Lets see, we are talking roughly a billion and a half people.
Wow, were you there for a decade or two?

73 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:48:25pm

Does Ron Paul want his supporters to cool it?

Ron Paul supporters booed Romney’s son, Josh, last Friday at the Washington State GOP convention. In Shreveport, La., on Saturday, Paul supporter Henry Herford Jr. , who has a prosthetic hip, was injured when security guards attempted to prevent him from calling to order a re-formed convention approved by duly elected Paul delegates.

That is the Paul side of the story, in any case. According to the Paul campaign, Louisiana GOP officials “ignored the vast majority of duly elected delegates and attempted to use illegally adopted rules to deny Ron Paul supporters an opportunity to attend the Republican National Convention in Tampa.”

Paul supporters had packed the house by getting themselves elected as Louisiana state delegates at lightly-attended caucuses. Long story short, this led to disputes over who would represent which candidates where, and the convention split in two. Another Paul delegate was briefly detained by police and had some fingers broken, according to the Paul campaign.

74 jaunte  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:51:07pm
75 Interesting Times  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:51:57pm
76 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:52:50pm

Like an idiot, I'd like to get back to the thread "topic" (the video).

And so I have an idiotic question - how did they get that video? Does the camera get focused on the yo-yo at the center, and then just keeps the yo-yo at the center the whole time it's filming so it looks like it's suspended in air while it's really going up and down like any yo-yo would do?

Yes, a stupid question, I'm really curious though ...anybody know?

77 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:53:32pm

re: #75 Interesting Times

[Embedded content]

They've got video of the cat.

Youtube Video
78 bratwurst  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:54:33pm

re: #72 blueraven

Lets see, we are talking roughly a billion and a half people.
Wow, were you there for a decade or two?

Keep in mind that this is the same guy who asserted that the fact he had driven past an "Occupy" protest was relevant to his understanding of same.

79 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:54:49pm

re: #77 Kragar

They've got video of the cat.

[Embedded content]

I saw this earlier.
Ick and Ew.

80 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:57:59pm

I killed the thread.

Oh, yeah, right - nice, folks! The wingnut shows up, you all go hide in a room to talk in secret!

81 jaunte  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 7:59:45pm

re: #80 reine.de.tout

I'm trying to find the answer!

82 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:00:47pm

re: #14 Killgore Trout

Maybe, but my guess is those who stuck with LGF past the break with the right aren't big fans of Walker anyways. They've been driven off by the purity patrol, not much incentive to come back to gloat about something they don't care about.

I don't know that much about Walker.

However, I read something the other day that leads me to believe that a group that has been pulling the strings behind the scenes with Jindal, is also involved with Walker. Which gives me deep reservations about Walker. Otherwise? I don't much care one way or the other about Wisconsin's recall. Wisconsin's issue, Wisconsin's voters will settle it.

83 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:02:28pm

re: #81 jaunte

I'm trying to find the answer!

I looked. I can't find anything written at a sufficiently simple level that I can understand.

84 jaunte  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:03:22pm

re: #83 reine.de.tout

Maybe this:
Digital image stabilization

Real-time digital image stabilization is used in some video cameras. This technique shifts the electronic image from frame to frame of video, enough to counteract the motion. It uses pixels outside the border of the visible frame to provide a buffer for the motion. This technique reduces distracting vibrations from videos or improves still image quality by allowing one to increase the exposure time without blurring the image. This technique does not affect the noise level of the image, except in the extreme borders when the image is extrapolated.

85 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:04:49pm

re: #84 jaunte

Maybe this:
Digital image stabilization

That's probably it. But I was lost by the 2nd & 3rd sentences:

This technique shifts the electronic image from frame to frame of video, enough to counteract the motion. It uses pixels outside the border of the visible frame to provide a buffer for the motion.

There are some things I can't get my mind to comprehend. Electricity is one. This, obviously, is another.

86 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:07:23pm

OK, well, sooooo .... It's been nice talking to myself, entertaining!

good-night, good people! Mebbe tomorrow, which is, as it's been said, another day.

87 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:14:37pm

re: #11 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

I want to guess some old time lizards who are never around but will show up tomorrow night if their team (Walker) wins...

Actually, I'm not going to be here tomorrow night. Emotions will be running high, and I'd likely end up a lightning rod.

But I'm here tonight, so let's talk.

88 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:15:32pm

re: #76 reine.de.tout

And so I have an idiotic question - how did they get that video? Does the camera get focused on the yo-yo at the center, and then just keeps the yo-yo at the center the whole time it's filming so it looks like it's suspended in air while it's really going up and down like any yo-yo would do?

Yes, a stupid question, I'm really curious though ...anybody know?

How Day Do Dat? Beats me.. Cool to watch, but it would have been a lot cooler with a purple Imperial Duncan Yo-Yo. Those were the bomb back in the day.

89 Only The Lurker Knows  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:22:56pm

Night Lizards. May the Deity of Your Choice smile down upon you.

And to my wonderful Wife (Rebecca) of 28 years, who has finally figured out what (and where) LGF really is. Not as shocking as you thought, is it?

Please, come and join us.

Sleep well my Friends.

90 makeitstop  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:23:59pm

Okay, how come none of you ever told me about the BBC series 'Luther?'

What a twisted, brilliant series.

91 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:26:49pm

re: #90 makeitstop

Okay, how come none of you ever told me about the BBC series 'Luther?'

What a twisted, brilliant series.

Yeah, it was pretty good.

92 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:27:07pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

I think Walker will eek out a victory, but his term will be cut short when he is charged and then convicted in the John Doe corruption scandal at which point he will switch from darling to scoundrel in the GOP hierarchy.

Signs are pointing to problems with the unity theme for the GOP. The Paulbots aren't going away without a fight and when they do they will not be very enthusiastic about supporting Mitt.

Battles and wars...

93 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:29:48pm

re: #92 Mich-again

I think Walker will eek out a victory, but his term will be cut short when he is charged and then convicted in the John Doe corruption scandal at which point he will switch from darling to scoundrel in the GOP hierarchy.

Signs are pointing to problems with the unity theme for the GOP. The Paulbots aren't going away without a fight and when they do they will not be very enthusiastic about supporting Mitt.

Battles and wars...

I think Walker will survive and not be charged, but the majority of Paulians will ultimately flounce. They don't like a corporate type like Mitt and won't, whatever Mitt does. Mitt Romney needs to accept their loss and find other people to vote for him. Pandering won't work, because there is nothing Mitt can do to not be seen as an "Organization Man".

94 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:38:53pm

Important to remember is that there are 4 Republican State Senators seats up tomorrow as well. One of which is open after the incumbent bailed and is trending democratic. All we have to do is flip one seat and Fitzwalkerstan is stymied - no more of his anti-Wisconsin agenda will get through the senate.

As for the Governor Doe, as I've mentioned before he's more corrupt than even Tommy Thompson was and even less smart. OTOH, his puppet masters have a lot of money. On the Gripping Hand, there are already 6 indictments & 13 grants of immunity - with that much smoke there's a fire somewhere & Scooter's fingers are still all over Milwaukee Count. I have a lovely mental image of him and Blago being cell mates for a decade or two, though I'm not sure I hate Scooter quite that much... :O

I just wonder if they are going to rely on Waukesha County magically finding enough extra votes again this time.

95 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:44:19pm

Curiouser and curiouser

In an alert issued late Sunday, Microsoft told customers that the authors of Flame -- a highly sophisticated surveillance computer virus discovered on networks in the Middle East and Iran -- had figured out how to use Microsoft's own security system to forge digital security certificates, which then allowed the malicious code to spread undetected by anti-virus programs. Digital certificates are in part designed to authenticate interactions online and help protect computer networks from being accessed by unauthorized users.

Microsoft fixed the security breach, but was also forced to add the compromised certificates to its own growing list of "untrusted" certificates.

Microsoft said that since Flame was such a precisely targeted attack, a vast majority of customer systems that use digital certificates -- which includes U.S. government and financial institutions -- were not in danger of being infected, but said it had to take action because the same technique could be used by other "less sophisticated attackers to launch more widespread attacks."

96 jaunte  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:44:55pm

re: #94 William Barnett-Lewis

Wisconsin County That 'Found' Lost Votes Apparently Has Major Voting Irregularities For Years
A 97.63% turnout in 2004!

97 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:45:13pm

re: #93 Dark_Falcon

I think Walker will survive and not be charged, but the majority of Paulians will ultimately flounce. They don't like a corporate type like Mitt and won't, whatever Mitt does. Mitt Romney needs to accept their loss and find other people to vote for him. Pandering won't work, because there is nothing Mitt can do to not be seen as an "Organization Man".

I think Mitt needs the Paul supporters in November or he will have a hard time wining in some of the swing states.

98 Interesting Times  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:46:14pm
99 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:46:46pm

re: #96 jaunte

Wisconsin County That 'Found' Lost Votes Apparently Has Major Voting Irregularities For Years
A 97.63% turnout in 2004!

Yep. Must be all those illegals living in million dollar homes in Waukesha committing the voter fraud that the Voter Suppression Act is supposed to fight ///

100 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:47:25pm

re: #98 Interesting Times

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The proverb of the Widow's Mite comes to mind...

101 jaunte  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:48:56pm

re: #99 William Barnett-Lewis

20,000 more votes than total ballots cast. Hmm.

102 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:50:59pm

re: #101 jaunte

20,000 more votes than total ballots cast. Hmm.

(waves hand) "That's not the voter fraud you're looking for ... "

103 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:54:37pm

re: #97 Mich-again

I think Mitt needs the Paul supporters in November or he will have a hard time wining in some of the swing states.

He can't hold them, because he's the kind of person they don't like. They are Paulians in part because they don't like corporate 'suits' and Mitt Romney is the 'suit par excellance'. Heck, he's probably got suits that cost more that the cars most people on this board drive.

104 Interesting Times  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:57:10pm

BREAKING: Scott Walker's Closest Aide Revealed in Court as Source of Damaging Leak; Flips on Embattled Governor

Scott Walker's closest political aide has just been named in Milwaukee County Circuit Court Monday as the source of damaging revelations that undermine Walker's claim that he has cooperated with the John Doe criminal corruption probe into his current and former administrations.

Tim Russell, who was hired or promoted by Scott Walker even after he was fired for stealing from a state agency, was said in court Monday to have given Milwaukee Journal Sentinel's Dan Bice information that showed that, contrary to Walker's claims, Walker was stonewalling investigators all along.

105 palomino  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:57:41pm

re: #97 Mich-again

I think Mitt needs the Paul supporters in November or he will have a hard time wining in some of the swing states.

Some Paulians will certainly stay home because they think all other politicians are phonies. But they hate govt so much most will probably show to vote for Romney because of his newly adopted rhetoric of blowing up shrinking the size of govt.

106 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 8:57:54pm

re: #104 Interesting Times

BREAKING: Scott Walker's Closest Aide Revealed in Court as Source of Damaging Leak; Flips on Embattled Governor

Now thats an October surprise!

107 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:00:11pm

re: #104 Interesting Times

I call bullshit on this one. All of this court stories are from sites with a clear left-wing bias, and this one on the afternoon before the vote stinks the worst of all. These 'stories' are horseshit, trotted out to hit Gov. Walker so late he cannot reply.

108 palomino  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:00:32pm

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

He can't hold them, because he's the kind of person they don't like. They are Paulians in part because they don't like corporate 'suits' and Mitt Romney is the 'suit par excellance'. Heck, he's probably got suits that cost more that the cars most people on this board drive.

You really think Mitt has $25,000 suits? Most of his clothes look like the blandest stuff you can find at the Gap or Banana Republic. And that's part of his "charm." He's rich but he's also just a regular guy. Or some gop bs like that.

109 Interesting Times  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:03:32pm

re: #107 Dark_Falcon

I call bullshit on this one. All of this court stories are from sites with a clear left-wing bias

Including the the newspaper that endorsed Walker? :P

Document suggests Walker stalled inquiry

Milwaukee County prosecutors opened the secret John Doe criminal investigation more than two years ago after being stonewalled by Gov. Scott Walker's office when he was county executive, according to a newly released record.

The document appears to cast doubt on some of Walker's claims about his role in launching and cooperating with the investigation.

110 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:04:53pm

re: #105 palomino

Some Paulians will certainly stay home because they think all other politicians are phonies. But they hate govt so much most will probably show to vote for Romney because of his newly adopted rhetoric of blowing up shrinking the size of govt.

But they know if Mitt wins in November than the real conservatives will have to wait 8 years to get one of their own on the ballot. If Obama wins than they only have to wait 4 years to go after the GOP nomination with a conservative who passes the litmus test.

111 palomino  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:11:19pm

re: #110 Mich-again

But they know if Mitt wins in November than the real conservatives will have to wait 8 years to get one of their own on the ballot. If Obama wins than they only have to wait 4 years to go after the GOP nomination with a conservative who passes the litmus test.

My impression is that the Obama hatred is just so overwhelming that they'll hold their noses and vote against him, not for Romney.

112 Interesting Times  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:11:51pm
113 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:12:05pm

re: #109 Interesting Times

The prosecutor probably offered a plea deal to Walker's aide Russell if he cooperated with the investigation. Pretty typical. Keep offering deals up the food chain till you get to the big fish.

114 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:14:23pm

re: #109 Interesting Times

Including the the newspaper that endorsed Walker? :P

Document suggests Walker stalled inquiry

Why didn't you post that link before? That does give some basis to the story, though it's well short of any allegation of wrongdoing, and the campaign immediately disputed the ADA's account of events.

115 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:14:27pm

The J-S makes the Tribune look more liberal than the NYTimes, DF. If they're printing stuff against Scooter, it's not a good sign.

But... I gotta go. The Boss & I have already early voted (206K Absentee ballots!) so tomorrow is just another day of packing boxes for the moving van on the 14th.

Good night all.

116 Mich-again  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:14:51pm

re: #111 palomino

My impression is that the Obama hatred is just so overwhelming that they'll hold their noses and vote against him, not for Romney.

Not all of them will. True believers hate impostors and apostates more than they hate their natural enemies.

117 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:19:08pm

re: #114 Dark_Falcon

Why didn't you post that link before? That does give some basis to the story, though it's well short of any allegation of wrongdoing, and the campaign immediately disputed the ADA's account of events.

I also see that that story was from last Thursday, so it likely won't have too much effect tomorrow.

118 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:38:47pm

Well, my talking to the kids earlier about their language lessons paid off in an unexpected way. They're beginning to understand references and story lines and literary influences. We just spent 20 minutes discussing how various movies were influenced and how their storylines were similar. They even provided some examples of their own.

119 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:42:04pm

Navy ships collide a day before arrival in San Diego

Two U.S. Navy ships collided Wednesday off the coast of San Diego, according to Navy officials.

No injuries have been reported and the cause of the accident is still under investigation, but it appears to be a steering malfunction, Navy spokesman Cmdr. Charlie Brown said.

Both ships -- the USS Essex, an amphibious assault ship, and the USNS Yukon, a refueling ship -- were damaged, but the full extent was not immediately known, Brown said.

According to a U.S. Navy statement, the accident occurred about 9:20 a.m. PT about 120 miles off the coast of Southern California. The ships were approaching each other as the Yukon was preparing to refuel the Essex, the Navy said.

The steering malfunction was aboard the Essex, the Navy said.

Colliding with your fuel ship has to qualify as an EPIC FAIL.

120 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:43:03pm

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

Navy ships collide a day before arrival in San Diego

Colliding with your fuel ship has to qualify as an EPIC FAIL.

Thats about 2 weeks old at least

121 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:43:45pm

re: #120 Kragar

Thats about 2 weeks old at least

True. I just saw it, though. Thought it was interesting.

122 freetoken  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:48:01pm

See, Obama has destroyed our Navy's ability to steer their own ships. Oh, when will be freed of this socialist's treachery?

123 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:50:07pm

re: #122 freetoken

See, Obama has destroyed our Navy's ability to steer their own ships. Oh, when will be freed of this socialist's treachery?

What we need are fewer, more expensive boats.

Stealth destroyer, at over $3 billion apiece, is US Navy’s latest answer to rising China

124 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:51:24pm

re: #122 freetoken

See, Obama has destroyed our Navy's ability to steer their own ships. Oh, when will be freed of this socialist's treachery?

But if he can damage complex systems, simply through force of thought, that would make him a Jedi, wouldn't it? And that mea...

OMG!!!1 He is The Chosen One after all!!!11

125 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:53:48pm

re: #123 Kragar

What we need are fewer, more expensive boats.

Stealth destroyer, at over $3 billion apiece, is US Navy’s latest answer to rising China

We're actually doing the opposite; That's actually why DDG-1000 (Zumwalt-class) ships are being built. The Navy decided it could get better results from 7-8 Arleigh Burke-class ships than from a handful of Zumwalts.

126 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:55:21pm

re: #125 Dark_Falcon

We're actually doing the opposite; That's actually why DDG-1000 (Zumwalt-class) ships are being built. The Navy decided it could get better results from 7-8 Arleigh Burke-class ships than from a handful of Zumwalts.

If our current track record of next gen weapons works out, it will be too dangerous to sail.

127 freetoken  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:57:37pm

re: #123 Kragar

I remember when the first stealth ship came out of the shadows, so to speak (or should that be from the Shadows?) It sailed into SD harbor and generated some news.

However, in the Navy's case "stealth" is kind of tricky to define. The problem is that a water-borne craft generates sounds and magnetic fields, not just photon emissions/reflections. So while a ship can be made "stealth" as far as being detected by RADAR, it will always, if it moves, cause a disturbance in the water, and a noisy one at that if it uses blades and/or engines to power its movements.

Non-metallic ships can get around the magnetic problem (important for mine warfare), but even they make sounds.

And, another problem is that a ship tends to be a different temperature than the surrounding sea (due to all the heat emitters on the ship), which makes it detectable by IR from space.

Etc., etc.

128 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:58:19pm

re: #126 Kragar

If our current track record of next gen weapons works out, it will be too dangerous to sail.

Actually, at sea is the one bright spot, or shall I say under the sea: The Virginia-class SSN is being delivered on time and within budget and it has worked well in service so far.

129 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 10:02:12pm

Zumwalt class destroyer

The lead ship will be named Zumwalt for Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, and carries the hull number DDG-1000. Originally 32 ships were planned, but this was progressively cut down[11] to three. The Navy expects each ship to cost nearly $3.8 billion. Including research and development, the cost grows to $7 billion apiece.[12]

130 Kragar  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 10:05:41pm

"Why is that gear sitting on the shelves instead of out in the field with the men?"

"Where they could break it? Do you know how much that stuff costs?"

131 Cheechako  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 10:20:43pm

re: #129 Kragar

Zumwalt class destroyer

If one of these 3 billion dollar ships ever gets sunk the Captain better go down with the ship.

132 erik_t  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 10:26:14pm

re: #127 freetoken

It's all the more challenging than that. Reduced acoustic signatures have been the rage since WW2, and IR/magnetic issues are what they are, but it's much easier to make a low-radar-signature shape when that shape doesn't interface with an uncontrollable conductive shape (ie the sea). This shape, of course, also moves your ship around in potentially undesirable ways. This is why the Zumwalts have the characteristic tumblehome form, with all surfaces slanting back from the vertical.

Anything non-vertical is better than vertical (see the inward-outward-inward-outward profile of some European designs), but an outward-sloping shape is prone to constructively interfere with chaotic sea-surface shapes, forming an effective reflector. The only way to really mitigate this is a universally-inward-sloping shape.

Although, curses and curses, only an electrical engineer would consider such a hull shape desirable. A tumblehome hull tends to want to keep rolling if it starts rolling, and drive big swells up on deck rather than riding over them. It's an intrinsically less stable hull shape, requiring active stabilizers and roll-compensating tanks and so on and so forth. So, a ship that requires X tons of combat-system weight that would usually require (say) 2X tons of overall ship weight may require 3X tons of very-low-observable overall weight. It's a vicious growth cycle, and that is part of the reason the Zumwalts (at almost 15000 tons) are so apparently huge for their on-paper combat capability. They also have capability considerably in excess of what would be suggested from the usual metrics (gun caliber, number of VLS cells, etc) but that gets even more complicated.

Note that the Sea Shadow approach (technically, a Small Waterplane Area Twin Hull) avoids these stability issues and others, but for a real-world ship it'll be too wide to transit the Panama Canal. Damned infrastructure crampin' our style.

Meanwhile, cost is considerably unrelated to size. Steel is the cheapest part of a warship. The DDG-1000s appear slated to serve as a testbed for eight bazillion different technologies that will make their successors more effective (we hope). Of course, that development cost will be amortized over only a couple of hulls, making each individual ship appear far more of a white elephant than she ought to be. See also: B-2, where an additional airframe would cost a small fraction of the $2 billion the popular media would lead you to believe.

133 freetoken  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 10:32:09pm

re: #132 erik_t

The bottom line of which is this - surface ships are very difficult to hide.

134 erik_t  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 10:33:11pm

re: #133 freetoken

The bottom line of which is this - surface ships are very difficult to hide.

Quite so. It will be interesting to see what we learn. Contrary to what many would have you believe, simulations don't count for a damn sometimes. You don't know until you build it and try it.

135 AK-47%  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 11:12:40pm

So Walker is going to win the run-off, which will be touted as a great triumph for Conservatism and then get run out of office on bribery/coruption charges?

136 freetoken  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 11:15:42pm
MP3 Audio
137 freetoken  Mon, Jun 4, 2012 11:41:05pm

It must be Mancini night:

MP3 Audio
138 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 12:08:20am

slow mancini night, yes...

139 researchok  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 12:51:02am

Morning, all

140 researchok  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 12:59:03am

Full day ahead.

See you all tonight

141 EdDantes  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 1:03:25am

re: #131 Cheechako

Anyone notice that it looks like the Merrimac?

[Link: www.history.navy.mil...]

142 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 1:31:48am

re: #141 EdDantes

Anyone notice that it looks like the Merrimac?

Or a Korean turtle ship

143 Obdicut  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 1:58:08am

re: #68 Killgore Trout

I've been to China, Hong Kong and Tibet. I've talked with the people and have a decent idea of what they're about.

This is a classic. Do you still keep in touch with China, Hong Kong, and Tibet?

144 Obdicut  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 1:59:41am

Completely random from Sweden.

Youtube Video
145 EdDantes  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 2:35:23am

re: #142 Expand Your Ground

Damn Koreans. Stealing our technology.

146 Obdicut  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 3:30:29am

More trouble for News Corp:

[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]

News Corp. has indefinitely suspended half of the voting rights of foreign stockholders to cover up its own willful noncompliance with federal law, shareholders claim in Delaware Chancery Court.

Although News Corp. "claimed the suspension was necessary to allow News Corp. to remain compliant with U.S. law requiring that Non-U.S. Stockholders not own more than 25% of the capital stock or vote more than 25% of the voting stock of a corporation holding U.S. broadcast station licenses," the suspension effectively increased CEO Rupert Murdoch's control of the company on April 12, the complaint states.

Non-U.S. citizens hold 36 percent of News Corp.'s outstanding Class B shares, and Murdoch holds another 39.7 percent, the company claims.

But lead plaintiff Forsta Ap-Fonden says the suspension could increase Murdoch's voting power to 48.5 percent. Class B shares of News Corp. usually carry one vote per share while Class A shares have no voting power.

News Corp.'s suspension announcement came the same day that the company reached a letter agreement with Murdoch, his minor children and certain Murdoch trusts, to waive their voting rights for so called "excess shares," which would otherwise boost their voting power.

But investors say the agreement "does not eliminate the voting power of the excess shares."

It "is merely an agreement by the Murdoch Holders not to vote such shares, [although they] will be counted for quorum purposes," according to the complaint. Though that agreement had allegedly been "carefully crafted to make it appear that the suspension will not increase Murdoch's voting control and entrench News Corp.'s board and management," the investors say the net result leaves Murdoch holding 48.5 percent of voting Class B shares.

"In a clear case of shooting first and asking questions later," News Corp. waited weeks to request certification of citizenship from stockholders, according to the complaint.

This happened "only after unilaterally taking away the voting power of 50% of the Class B shares it claims, based on undisclosed information and unidentified criteria, are held by non-U.S. stockholders," the lawsuit states.

Furthermore, "News Corp. has announced that any stockholder who does not respond or provide certification of U.S. citizen status will be deemed a non-U.S. stockholder and will be subject to the suspension," Ap-Fonden says.

News Corp. and its board could have avoided conflict with foreign ownership limitations by monitoring stock ownership, the complaint states. Investors call this failure to do so a breach of fiduciary duty.

This story is bad for Murdoch on a number of levels; first of all, he's just pissing off every other investor in News Corp, forcing them to demonstrate that they're US citizens in order to vote. Second of all, it draws attention to how much foreign investment there is in News Corp, and Murdoch's own foreign extraction; he became a US citizen purely in order to get around this particular rule in the first place.

147 Aye Pod  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 3:41:50am

re: #14 Killgore Trout

Maybe, but my guess is those who stuck with LGF past the break with the right aren't big fans of Walker anyways. They've been driven off by the purity patrol, not much incentive to come back to gloat about something they don't care about.

Heh.

148 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 3:55:23am

Good Morning Peoples. Who is running the Wisconsin results pool?

149 Aye Pod  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 4:00:37am

Biologist Richard Dawkins and theoretical physicist Lawrence Krauss discuss cosmology, religion and more - 'Something from Nothing', at ANU (Canberra Australia, 10 April 2012)

Youtube Video
150 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 4:32:40am

re: #148 RogueOne

Good Morning Peoples. Who is running the Wisconsin results pool?

I suspect Walker will win, but then again, he is facing criminal charges down the line, so it could all backfire on him badly after all...

151 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 4:43:43am

re: #150 Expand Your Ground

Walker winning is a pretty safe bet. PPP has him +3, Rasmussen has him +5 (with a +/- 4.5 making it worthless) and some group called WAA has it +12. If there were a pool I'd have tried to grab the block Walker by 6.

152 Gus  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 4:47:09am

re: #147 Aye Pod

Heh.

Eye roll.

153 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 4:51:14am

re: #151 RogueOne

Walker winning is a pretty safe bet. PPP has him +3, Rasmussen has him +5 (with a +/- 4.5 making it worthless) and some group called WAA has it +12. If there were a pool I'd have tried to grab the block Walker by 6.

He will most likely win, to be followed by a massive right-wing gloatfest, to be followed by a very tight-lipped response to his upcoming trial...

154 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 4:58:12am

re: #153 Expand Your Ground

Odds on wailing, wrenching of teeth and renting of clothes: 10 - 1

155 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 4:58:45am

Clutching of pearls 8-1

156 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:00:42am

Morning Lizardim from the warm and clear wild north country. All eyes are on our neighbors to the east today, as the current topic of this thread indicates. I'm honestly not expecting much; the GOP has gone balls to the wall to make sure that Scott Walker stays on the job and continues to wage his particular brand of class warfare. I have to confess, part of me wonders what could've been if the Republicans channeled all that energy and money into doing some actual good for the country instead of just playing cheap partisan politics.

157 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:01:48am

re: #156 thedopefishlives

Then the economy might be doing better, which would make Obama look more re-electable. They are not going to let that happen.

158 A Mom Anon  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:03:14am

Can someone explain to me how polling works? It just seems weird(to me at least)that such small samples can be at all accurate in predicting anything. In all my life I've never been asked a question by any poll taking organization,am I missing something? It just seems off to me,that a poll of say,1100 people, would represent a few million people and be right. This is a dumb question I guess, I probably should have taken a statistics class in high school.

Same goes for TV and radio ratings. How the hell can anyone have a clue how many people listen to a radio program on any given day?

159 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:09:02am

re: #158 A Mom Anon

Can someone explain to me how polling works? It just seems weird(to me at least)that such small samples can be at all accurate in predicting anything. In all my life I've never been asked a question by any poll taking organization,am I missing something? It just seems off to me,that a poll of say,1100 people, would represent a few million people and be right. This is a dumb question I guess, I probably should have taken a statistics class in high school.

Same goes for TV and radio ratings. How the hell can anyone have a clue how many people listen to a radio program on any given day?

When choosing people to be sampled for a poll, pollsters try to match as many demographic data as they can to the population at large. Speaking in plain English, if, say, the United States population as a whole is 30% black and 70% white, pollsters would try to ensure that they collected samples from a total of 30% black people and 70% white people. If the total sample is truly representative in all the important ways, it can be generalized to the population as a whole, within a margin of error to account for the fact that it is still a sample and not a poll of the entire population. The size of the sample determines the margin of error; most political polls try to put it within 5%, which allows for a fairly small sample size.

160 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:10:25am

I only look at polls for trends, and only pay attention to absolute values when the results exceed 10%.

161 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:22:01am
In the final hours before the Wisconsin recall, President Barack Obama reiterated his support for Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, Democratic challenger to Republican Gov. Scott Walker, over Twitter.

"It's Election Day in Wisconsin tomorrow, and I'm standing by Tom Barrett. He'd make an outstanding governor. -bo," Obama said in a tweet Monday evening.

Thanks for nothing, bo. A fucking tweet? What an asshole.

162 Obdicut  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:22:54am

re: #161 Amory Blaine

Huh?

163 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:23:01am

re: #161 Amory Blaine

He didn't really go out of his way to get involved.

164 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:25:03am

Bishops!

What a thing to read first on a morning!

How are you-all?

165 A Mom Anon  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:27:24am

re: #159 thedopefishlives

OK,that makes a bit more sense. Where do they get that info from?

I also often wonder,what if the right wing DID take all that energy and money and did stuff to help people? It astounds me that they could honestly be heroes to the American people but instead choose not to be. How much money have the Koch brothers and others spent to get their way? We often assume they come out ahead,but do they really? I think of all the millions upon millions of dollars spent,not just to buy politicians,but advertising,paid spokespeople,think tanks and to just run the machine and it seems like it would just be cheaper to do the right thing in the first place.

166 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:33:35am

re: #165 A Mom Anon

OK,that makes a bit more sense. Where do they get that info from?

The statistics on the general population are fairly known, mostly derived from the census data. Even though that has a 10-year granularity, it's close enough for government work. Then, when they are polling people, they select completely randomly and collect data on all those factors, like gender, race, political affiliation, etc. Depending on how the poll is conducted, they either keep gathering responses until the demographics of the sample match the population, or they ask the demographic questions first and then just stop if the person would throw off the sample.

167 Obdicut  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:36:05am

re: #165 A Mom Anon

A lot of banks lose more money in clever schemes-- like JP Morgan-- than they would have by following regulations, even voluntary ones.

There's a widespread myth that companies do what's in their own best interest. I don't know why people believe it, but they do. Very often, companies take on huge amounts of risk, because for the individuals making those decisions-- the vice presidents, the managers, etc.-- there's very little disincentive for them not to. A CEO can run a company into the ground and float off to another CEO position very easily.

There is more quality control of people working at Shake Shack than there is of CEOs.

168 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:40:04am

Well, I'm smoking a big fattie, pouring me a tall cocktail and walking down to the poll booth (3rd shifter). BBL.

169 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:43:49am

re: #123 Kragar

What we need are fewer, more expensive boats.

Stealth destroyer, at over $3 billion apiece, is US Navy’s latest answer to rising China

Just think of the agricultural subsidy that will generate to breed all the caterpillars!
///

170 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:44:30am

LOL

171 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:44:43am

Wow, ballsy:

Zimmerman wants out again

172 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:47:18am

re: #167 Obdicut

There is more quality control of people working at Shake Shack than there is of CEOs.

Mostly because the actual, tangible performance of a CEO is completely unrelated to his pay scale or to any other form of accountability. Golden parachutes, "intangible benefits", etc., all serve as incentives to do whatever the hell sounds good without a thought as to what it will actually accomplish down the line. There's got to be a way to bring these guys back down to earth.

173 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:48:29am

Good morning from Wisconsin. If you're religious, pray for us. If not, send positive waves, man that we a least flip a senate seat and that the Democratic GOTV works best.

I have my doubts but the Good One knows we've tried to take back our state.

174 Gus  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:52:13am

re: #169 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Just think of the agricultural subsidy that will generate to breed all the caterpillars!
///

This line is "interesting":

...U.S. navy's China strategy will be able to sneak up on coastlines virtually undetected and pound targets with electromagnetic "railguns"...

So look at that as propaganda piece. Now place yourself as a Chinese citizen reading that. Essentially what you would be reading is "Americans plan on sneaking up to Chinese shores and attacking the homeland."

Virtually undetected for known unknown wars. Right. It has always been in the best interest of the military industry to hype up foreign threats.

Not really my problem though.

175 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:52:17am

re: #173 William Barnett-Lewis

Good morning from Wisconsin. If you're religious, pray for us. If not, send positive waves, man that we a least flip a senate seat and that the Democratic GOTV works best.

I have my doubts but the Good One knows we've tried to take back our state.

You pissed off Brett Favre. Suffer the consequences!
/

176 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:52:57am

re: #114 Dark_Falcon

Why didn't you post that link before?

It was already linked to by the very same article I'd quoted in my #104. You could have followed it yourself, but that would involve resisting knee-jerk dismissals of information that doesn't fit the your desired narrative :)

177 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:53:24am

re: #175 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

You pissed off Brett Favre. Suffer the consequences!
/

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's the other way 'round, after he bailed on them for the Vikings. Which turned out to have hilarious consequences, but still.

178 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:54:39am

re: #177 thedopefishlives

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's the other way 'round, after he bailed on them for the Vikings. Which turned out to have hilarious consequences, but still.

I think the Vikings were working the "Elephant's Graveyard for QBs" thing.

179 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:57:25am

Today in History.

180 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:57:28am

re: #178 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I think the Vikings were working the "Elephant's Graveyard for QBs" thing.

I had to laugh when that move was made. One of my brothers-in-law is a dyed-in-the-wool Vikings fan, an absolute fanatic. He thought that once they got Favre, that they were going to dominate the league. I looked at him like he was crazy, "Mike, you know the whole rest of the team besides Peterson and Favre absolutely sucks, right? And Favre has a penchant for getting the crap sacked out of him anyway? Exactly how is this going to end well?"

181 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:58:15am
182 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:58:37am

re: #179 ggt

Today in History.

Yesterday was the 70th Anniversary of the Battle of Midway. Good write-up in one of the Comsimworld forums on it.

183 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:02:36am

Heh. Ad choices currently at top of screen:

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184 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:04:42am

re: #180 thedopefishlives

I had to laugh when that move was made. One of my brothers-in-law is a dyed-in-the-wool Vikings fan, an absolute fanatic. He thought that once they got Favre, that they were going to dominate the league. I looked at him like he was crazy, "Mike, you know the whole rest of the team besides Peterson and Favre absolutely sucks, right? And Favre has a penchant for getting the crap sacked out of him anyway? Exactly how is this going to end well?"

Yea. Amazing how often team management makes the "big" signing of a QB, RB, skill player without fixing their offensive line issues and then expects things to turn around. You generally end up with broken skill players instead. Chicks might dig the long ball, but all quarterbacks are equal when they're lying on their back after being sacked.

185 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:06:32am

re: #177 thedopefishlives

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's the other way 'round, after he bailed on them for the Vikings. Which turned out to have hilarious consequences, but still.

Actually, given how the NFL works as a biz, I've never held any of that against him and would not have minded if he'd gotten them to the big game - so long as Arron succeeded first ;) Until the Saints bounty, he honestly was better than 90% of old QBs. Anyone remember Joe Montana's last couple of seasons?

186 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:07:38am

re: #184 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Yea. Amazing how often team management makes the "big" signing of a QB, RB, skill player without fixing their offensive line issues and then expects things to turn around. You generally end up with broken skill players instead. Chicks might dig the long ball, but all quarterbacks are equal when they're lying on their back after being sacked.

Minnesota currently has a similar problem in baseball with the Twins. We hired a new general manager (actually, the GM we had before the one we were replacing) and he made a number of personnel moves among the position players, but kept our starting pitching rotation. Except our starting pitching rotation was among the worst in the Major Leagues last year, and up until we started replacing them with Minor League callups, was THE worst in the Majors this year. Doesn't take a genius to figure out exactly why that didn't work out the way they wanted.

187 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:09:39am

re: #184 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Yea. Amazing how often team management makes the "big" signing of a QB, RB, skill player without fixing their offensive line issues and then expects things to turn around. You generally end up with broken skill players instead. Chicks might dig the long ball, but all quarterbacks are equal when they're lying on their back after being sacked.

Case in point, the Vikings and the Colts from last season. #2 and #1 overall draft picks because the team as a whole was horribly broken and they tried to rely on one guy to pull all the weight. I love me some Peyton Manning and I still love the Colts, but it was only a matter of time until that all fell apart.

188 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:11:09am

re: #186 thedopefishlives

Minnesota currently has a similar problem in baseball with the Twins. We hired a new general manager (actually, the GM we had before the one we were replacing) and he made a number of personnel moves among the position players, but kept our starting pitching rotation. Except our starting pitching rotation was among the worst in the Major Leagues last year, and up until we started replacing them with Minor League callups, was THE worst in the Majors this year. Doesn't take a genius to figure out exactly why that didn't work out the way they wanted.

Maybe time to conspire with Philly to make one "super" team, and one doormat. Which makes me wonder who the Pirates are conspiring with...
(Though Pittsburgh is actually over/near .500 right now.)

189 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:12:09am

re: #188 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Maybe time to conspire with Philly to make one "super" team, and one doormat. Which makes me wonder who the Pirates are conspiring with...
(Though Pittsburgh is actually over/near .500 right now.)

The only good news is at least this year, we haven't had the injuries that we did last year. So our batting is way up over last year and with the addition of our talented young Minor League starters, we've put together a fairly impressive run over the last week.

190 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:15:16am
191 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:15:54am

Science is so kewl!

192 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:15:57am

re: #189 thedopefishlives

The only good news is at least this year, we haven't had the injuries that we did last year. So our batting is way up over last year and with the addition of our talented young Minor League starters, we've put together a fairly impressive run over the last week.

I see that. Win a few more and you can catch the Royals!

hehe. Pittsburgh (27-26) currently has a better record than Philadelphia (28-28). There will be some needling today. (Bunch of the Pittsburgh guys I work with are in town for a project closeout celebration.)

193 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:18:06am

re: #191 ggt

Science is so kewl!

We can haz link that's not broke?

194 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:21:46am

re: #192 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

I see that. Win a few more and you can catch the Royals!

hehe. Pittsburgh (27-26) currently has a better record than Philadelphia (28-28). There will be some needling today. (Bunch of the Pittsburgh guys I work with are in town for a project closeout celebration.)

We're currently at KC, in fact. Game 2 is tonight, and I'm hoping we can carry the momentum and complete the sweep. We need all the wins we can muster with our division in a bit of turmoil.

195 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:22:00am

re: #193 Interesting Times

We can haz link that's not broke?

hmmmm????

196 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:22:23am

Dogs and I are going back to bed.

Have a great morning all!

197 darthstar  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:25:59am

Mornin' everyone...Giants swept the Cubs yesterday in a four game home stand...first sweep they've closed all year.

Voting day in California and Wisconsin. California has better cheese and our governor isn't a fucking loon (despite his Moonbeam nickname because he wanted California to invest in satellites in the 70s...like those would ever take off, sheesh)...though Wisconsin could change that by removing said embarrassing tumor today.

198 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:28:08am

Oh, and for the history buffs.

I just started a new book - _Neptune's Inferno_. On the naval battles off Guadalcanal in WW2 (August - November 1942). By James Hornfischer, who also wrote the excellent _Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors_ about the Battle of Samar.

Can't comment much so far since I'm only 80 pages or so in. But he has a nice mix going of overview and personal level descriptions along with critiques of command issues, poor procedures, etc. And I hadn't realized before that a couple of the battleship captains from Pearl Harbor were commanding heavy cruisers at the Battle of Savo Island. And it also looks like this book will pay closer attention to the CLAAs (Atlanta-class anti-aircraft light cruisers*) then most authors do since I've read sections already that are first person observations from a crew member on one of them.

* - I'm mainly familiar with these from a couple of different war games. Not great surface combatants, but have an AAA suite that outclasses any other cruiser class of the period and is almost comparable to that of a "modern" USN battleship; e.g. North Dakota class or later.

199 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:37:05am

re: #198 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

It's an excellent take on the topic. The descriptions of the surface actions are by far the best I've read in a non-specialist book ever. No surprise after "Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors".

Another excellent naval history to read is "Shattered Sword" about the IJN at Midway using previously ignored Japanese records.

200 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:38:59am

BBIAB.

201 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:46:02am

Flame virus can hijack PCs by spoofing Windows Update

Using rogue security certificates, the virus is able to exploit Microsoft's Windows Update service to infect unsuspecting computers.

202 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:49:11am

re: #199 William Barnett-Lewis

It's an excellent take on the topic. The descriptions of the surface actions are by far the best I've read in a non-specialist book ever. No surprise after "Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors".

Another excellent naval history to read is "Shattered Sword" about the IJN at Midway using previously ignored Japanese records.

I've read _Shattered Sword_ already. Another good pair of books is _The First Team_ and _The First Team and the Guadacanal Campaign_ on the USN carrier fighter squadrons during the early parts of the war.

203 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:53:22am

Follow-up:

204 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:04:23am

re: #54 Cheechako

If these are surplus spy telescopes, think about what NRO has probably replaced them with.

Why not, they have all the money. NASA sure as fuck doesn't.

205 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:07:13am

re: #203 Interesting Times

[Embedded content]

It's up there for sure.

206 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:10:05am

By the way, I'm suspecting more and more that Bryan Fischer is probably among the most sexually repressed human beings out there. A normal person comfortable in their sexuality doesn't say that crazy shit.

207 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:25:36am

re: #201 Killgore Trout

Flame virus can hijack PCs by spoofing Windows Update

Solution,

I'm walking around the house right now unplugging every single electrical device, taking the battery out of every single wireless device

I'm starting right n,,,,,,(bbbzzzzzzz),

208 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:31:37am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

He reminds me of the preacher from the Porkys movie who tried to ban Shakespeare, but had repeated stag parties with his friends. Do as I say, but don't do as I do.

209 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:33:19am

re: #208 lawhawk

He reminds me of the preacher from the Porkys movie who tried to ban Shakespeare, but had repeated stag parties with his friends. Do as I say, but don't do as I do.

I've never seen Porky's to my embarassment. The best moralizers are the best hypocrites though. Forget Wharton's line on that. It was in the Age of Innocence though. And somehow we have worked Porky's and Edith Wharton's literature together. What a strange world.

210 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:36:49am

re: #207 sattv4u2

I'm starting right n,,,,(bbbzzz),

Because don't mess with Varek.

211 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:37:59am

re: #210 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

Because don't mess with Varek.

I'm ready for him

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212 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:40:22am

re: #211 sattv4u2

I'm ready for him

Image: SlingShot_L1.jpg

As he is for you.

Image: Little-david_an_US_siege_mortar_world_war_II.jpg

213 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:41:10am

re: #212 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

As he is for you.

Image: Little-david_an_US_siege_mortar_world_war_II.jpg

Yeah, but I'll outflamk him

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214 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:43:11am

re: #213 sattv4u2

Yeah, but I'll outflamk him

Image: Spitball-World-Championship-3.jpg

I'll help you.

Image: TheTsarCannonJuly2004.jpg

215 allegro  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:43:39am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

I've never seen Porky's to my embarassment. The best moralizers are the best hypocrites though. Forget Wharton's line on that. It was in the Age of Innocence though. And somehow we have worked Porky's and Edith Wharton's literature together. What a strange world.

I didn't see Porky's neither and I am thoroughly unembarrassed to admit it. I did, however, see a Melbourne production of Love Never Dies on PBS Sunday night. It's the Andrew Lloyd Weber sequel to the Phantom of the Opera. 10 years later, Christine, her hubby, and son - who is conveniently 10 years old - arrive in NYC. Hark, but there is the Phantom who they believed dead after the debacle in the opera house so long ago. But nay, here he is having conned Christine to NY to hear her sing "one more time." Understandably emotional reunion as the Phantom learns that their one night together produced this talented young son. (I think we were supposed to be surprised, too.) Will Christine sing against the wishes of her gambler, ne'er do well husband? Will her son learn the truth? In whose arms will Christine die at the end?

The music? Meh. Nothing close to the Phantom. But there was a dwarf.

216 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:44:22am

re: #214 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

I'll help you.

Image: TheTsarCannonJuly2004.jpg

No thanks

Hell, the cannon only fired the balls a foot away

217 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:44:25am

Good morning lizards!

218 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:44:46am

re: #216 sattv4u2

No thanks

Hell, the cannon only fired the balls a foot away

That was the plan all along. :P

219 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:48:39am

So, we've gone and targeted al-Libi once again. No confirmation yet as to whether we got the latest #2 AQ yet. The latest UAV airstrikes were in and around Mir Ali, a hotbed of terror activities in the frontier provinces.

220 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:51:53am

re: #109 Interesting Times

Including the the newspaper that endorsed Walker? :P

Document suggests Walker stalled inquiry

Which explains why it came out now (when Walker doesn't have time to answer to it), because fucking Walker stalled it. If he had let it go he would have had time answer to it. But my guess is, he doesn't have a fucking answer for it. Criminal fuck.

221 allegro  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:53:21am

re: #220 RayFerd

But my guess is, he doesn't have a fucking answer for it. Criminal fuck.

He probably does. But fifth amendment and all.

222 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:53:32am

re: #220 RayFerd

Which explains why it came out now (when Walker doesn't have time to answer to it), because fucking Walker stalled it. If he had let it go he would have had time answer to it. But my guess is, he doesn't have a fucking answer for it. Criminal fuck.

I'd like to know how a secret illegal router in his office evades his attention.

223 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:54:40am

re: #201 Killgore Trout

Flame virus can hijack PCs by spoofing Windows Update

Do you allow windows to update automatically? I don't. Updates have screwed me so many times in the past I don't allow anything to do it on its own. I even have my firewall setup to only allow certain programs to access the internet just to be sure.

224 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:56:37am

re: #219 lawhawk

So, we've gone and targeted al-Libi once again. No confirmation yet as to whether we got the latest #2 AQ yet. The latest UAV airstrikes were in and around Mir Ali, a hotbed of terror activities in the frontier provinces.

Pakistan had the balls to summon our ambassador to complain. I could not be more frustrated with them. Something needs to change.

225 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:57:21am

re: #223 RogueOne

Do you allow windows to update automatically? I don't. Updates have screwed me so many times in the past I don't allow anything to do it on its own. I even have my firewall setup to only allow certain programs to access the internet just to be sure.

I do allow auto updates but I probably shouldn't.

227 Digital Display  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:59:39am

re: #223 RogueOne

Do you allow windows to update automatically? I don't. Updates have screwed me so many times in the past I don't allow anything to do it on its own. I even have my firewall setup to only allow certain programs to access the internet just to be sure.

Our IT Engineering group tests all the Windows updates and the selected ones are automatically installed globally on users laptops. The same with A/V updates..In fact if you do not have the approved revision you are disconnected from the network.

228 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 7:59:49am

re: #224 Killgore Trout

I wonder how much of the complaining is real and how much is for public consumption. OTOH, when the ROE include not just the target but anyone standing within the blast radius...I can see how that would get annoying.

229 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:00:18am

Tit for tat time. Romney wants people to think that Obama is to blame for the Solyndra bankruptcy, but Romney has his own solar flameout to be concerned with.

Decrying the White House’s decision to give Solyndra a $535 million federal loan as “crony capitalism,” Romney even held a surprise campaign stunt at the Bay Area plant Thursday.

But a day later, a Massachusetts solar panel company that received a state grant while Romney was governor filed for bankruptcy, according to the Boston Herald.

Romney personally awarded a $1.5 million renewable energy subsidy to Konarka Technologies, based in Lowell, a short time after he took office in 2003, the paper reported.

That company filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy protection and laid off 85 workers.

So, Romney had no problem giving subsidies to solar power companies while as Governor of Mass., and then has no problem blaming Obama when a solar power company that received federal incentives went bankrupt. The only difference between Solyndra and Konarka is the size of the government incentive. Both were bets that the respective companies would create jobs, spur tech development, and have a long-term payback for the state and federal government. Konarka lasted longer than Solyndra, but its fate is still the same - bankruptcy.

230 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:00:33am

re: #227 HoosierHoops

How you been Hoops? I haven't been on when you've been around. Last I saw you were dating someone new, that still fairly current info?

231 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:02:16am

re: #228 RogueOne

I wonder how much of the complaining is real and how much is for public consumption. OTOH, when the ROE include not just the target but anyone standing within the blast radius...I can see how that would get annoying.

It's hard to tell. Pakistan is complicated and secretive.

232 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:02:19am

re: #229 lawhawk

Tit for tat time. Romney wants people to think that Obama is to blame for the Solyndra bankruptcy, but Romney has his own solar flameout to be concerned with.

So, Romney had no problem giving subsidies to solar power companies while as Governor of Mass., and then has no problem blaming Obama when a solar power company that received federal incentives went bankrupt. The only difference between Solyndra and Konarka is the size of the government incentive. Both were bets that the respective companies would create jobs, spur tech development, and have a long-term payback for the state and federal government. Konarka lasted longer than Solyndra, but its fate is still the same - bankruptcy.

He does that a lot doesn't he? Kind of like when he accused Obama of being an elitist for going to Harvard.

233 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:02:33am

re: #224 Killgore Trout

That's kabuki theater - everyone knows that it's for show. They'll summon US officials and bluster about the airstrikes while the Pakistani government understands that they're benefiting from the airstrikes by eliminating threats to the Pakistani government at the same time (AQ and affiliates have no love for the government, though there is continuing evidence that the ISI harbors favorable sentiment for the Islamists fighting in the frontier provinces and continues to push its interests inside Afghanistan as well).

234 Digital Display  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:02:54am

re: #230 RogueOne

How you been Hoops? I haven't been on when you've been around. Last I saw you were dating someone new, that still fairly current info?

We missed each other by minutes twice.. I was in Indy for the race. Did you go? Man it was hot.. Great race!
I'm doing great...how are you?

235 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:05:20am

Bad shit still going on in Syria...

Heavy fighting erupts in Syria's Latakia province

(Reuters) - Syrian government forces backed by helicopters clashed on Tuesday with rebels in several towns in the coastal province of Latakia, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

Rebels said at least eight of the fighters were killed.

"The clashes started seven hours ago. These are the heaviest clashes so far in the area since the beginning of the revolution (in March 2011)," Rami Abdelrahman, the head of the British-based Observatory, told Reuters.

He said at least five tanks and armoured personnel carriers were destroyed. Rebels have taken over police stations in the city of Haffeh in the countryside of Latakia, he added. He said "a lot of ambulances" were seen arriving in the city of Latakia carrying government forces casualties.

"Haffeh is totally surrounded right now," said an activist in the city. He said the clashes were in the villages of Bekas, Babna, Jankeel.

Meanwhile Assad has kicked out 17 diplomats including the US Ambassador Robert Ford...

Syria announced Tuesday it is expelling some diplomats from 11 countries, a week after those nations expelled Syrian officials in a coordinated response to a massacre and the government's violent crackdown on the opposition.

The move came as those countries looked for new ways to push for a halt in the violence, through the U.N. Security Council and other means.

And in Syria, an opposition group reported 24 people were killed Tuesday, and the government reported that three of its officers were assassinated.

236 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:06:28am

re: #231 Killgore Trout

It's hard to tell. Pakistan is complicated and secretive.

So am I but I'm not allowed to blow shit up in my backyard.

237 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:08:58am

re: #234 HoosierHoops

No, I haven't been to the actual race in years. The area around the track is still fun the night before but I didn't make it this year. That was a busy weekend.

I'm alive, staying busy. Trying to finish a set of shop prints that are pissing me off!

238 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:11:51am

re: #235 NJDhockeyfan

There were reports yesterday that questioned Assad's claims that terrorists were responsible for the Houla massacre where more than 100 were killed. He claimed that terrorists (aka the rebels) were responsible for the artillery barrages and followed those up with execution style killings. Observers/journalists who got into the area found no evidence of anyone other than the Syrian military there - the military was the only one with artillery (and the observers saw them firing on other targets in the area). Those same observers further noted that it's quite likely that it was loyalist militias (shabiha) responsible for the execution style killings following the bombardments.

239 blueraven  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:12:43am

re: #229 lawhawk

Tit for tat time. Romney wants people to think that Obama is to blame for the Solyndra bankruptcy, but Romney has his own solar flameout to be concerned with.

So, Romney had no problem giving subsidies to solar power companies while as Governor of Mass., and then has no problem blaming Obama when a solar power company that received federal incentives went bankrupt. The only difference between Solyndra and Konarka is the size of the government incentive. Both were bets that the respective companies would create jobs, spur tech development, and have a long-term payback for the state and federal government. Konarka lasted longer than Solyndra, but its fate is still the same - bankruptcy.

Not only that, but he has the gall to make a speech in front of Solyndra and flat out lie. This statement he made is blatantly false:

"An independent inspector general looked at this investment and concluded that the Administration had steered money to friends and family and campaign contributors."

[Link: finance.fortune.cnn.com...]

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

240 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:13:55am

re: #239 blueraven

Not only that, but he has the gall to make a speech in front of Solyndra and flat out lie. This statement he made is blatantly false:

[Link: finance.fortune.cnn.com...]

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

It's the story of his campaign. Lie, distort, and then lie some more. Why anyone thinks this guy will be a good president is beyond me. His own record is not too impressive. But hey he's got business experience so it's all gravy.

241 Digital Display  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:16:04am

re: #237 RogueOne

No, I haven't been to the actual race in years. The area around the track is still fun the night before but I didn't make it this year. That was a busy weekend.

I'm alive, staying busy. Trying to finish a set of shop prints that are pissing me off!

Fast Friday rocks.. I'm glad you are doing well...I promised my buddies I'd be in Indy for the race and we had a blast...I miss those guys.
My life has changed in so many ways. My Father passed and left me a lake house, Boat and a stupid insurance policy with Met Life.
Everything changes now and I'm still in a little shock that I'll stop working for the man.. I didn't see this coming

242 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:18:22am

re: #238 lawhawk

In other words Assad is full of shit. I don't think anyone in the world believes anything coming out of his mouth at this point while he continues mass murder of his people. Unfortunately world leaders are just standing on the sidelines and watching it happen.

243 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:19:28am

re: #241 HoosierHoops

I didn't realize you were going to retire! Are you planning on staying in OK or are you going to relocate again?

244 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:22:23am

re: #241 HoosierHoops

I'm still in a little shock that I'll stop working for the man.. I didn't see this coming

Unsolicited advice!

Unless you have long term plans (travel,,,, volunteer work, etc) , a man your age (I know you're somewhat younger than me) shouldn't just retire to "nothing". If you don't have those plans, keep working even if only part time

245 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:22:33am

re: #242 NJDhockeyfan

No one wants to commit their own troops to the mission. No one wants to send ground forces, including France, who is the de-facto leader on the Levant (historical relationship with Syria/Lebanon). An air cover mission (similar to the NATO mission over Libya) is unlikely because Russia and China will continue to block any UN action stronger than what's in place. The Arab League isn't going to commit troops, not when they've got their own uprisings/demonstrations to contend with.

So, it's all a bunch of talk unless the rebels can pull it together and gain ground so that the situation devolves into a civil war with a rebel force that can be recognized as a legitimate sovereign entity. Assad's done just enough to keep that from happening.

246 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:23:28am

re: #241 HoosierHoops
Congratulation on your new lifestyle. We all hope to get there one day.
Indy-I love the new chassis, the race is much better I think. More competitive in both the strategic fuel management sense and the renewed passing at certain opportunities. They seem a lot safer to pass.

247 Digital Display  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:25:37am

re: #243 RogueOne

I didn't realize you were going to retire! Are you planning on staying in OK or are you going to relocate again?

Yup.. Going to move to the Lake house. The Estate has paid for the next year of expenses. I'll need to install cable and Internet there.
I'm going to start a new life soon..

248 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:25:37am

re: #245 lawhawk

Syria wanted to dominate Lebanon. I fear it will become Lebanon, a Lebanon like the bad old days of competing governance and violence.

249 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:26:40am

Pissed off or pissed on?

Erupting Urinal Soaks House Press Gallery

A big splash occurred on Monday morning at the House Press Gallery in the U.S. Capitol.

No, this wasn’t one of those unexpected guest appearances for celebrities to talk to reporters about some favorite cause.

This splash came from an exploding urinal. More specifically, something suddenly broke in the piping of the third-floor urinal, and water began spewing from beneath the men’s room door.

As the water flowed, it first surrounded the Associated Press’s working area, then spread toward both ends of the gallery, which was occupied by fewer than usual reporters and staffers, because the House is out of session until Tuesday.

Capitol Police officers, gallery staff, and other U.S. Capitol personnel moved to contain the flow. In doing so, they found a use, finally, for the gallery's stacks of unread newspapers, magazines, and other periodicals, as makeshift sponges and sandbags.

Employees from the Architect of the Capitol and other Capitol staffers managed to eventually stop the geyser. In came vacuums to suck up the water, and a section of the gallery carpeting was taken up – leaving behind a sticky floor.

New carpeting is to be installed in the early morning on Tuesday.
Some concern remained that water may have seeped through the floor toward the Speaker’s Gallery on the second floor, next to the House Chamber. That was still being checked on Monday afternoon.

250 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:28:09am

re: #249 NJDhockeyfan

Pissed off or pissed on?

Erupting Urinal Soaks House Press Gallery

Just tell them it's raining.

251 Digital Display  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:31:00am

re: #246 Daniel Ballard

Congratulation on your new lifestyle. We all hope to get there one day.
Indy-I love the new chassis, the race is much better I think. More competitive in both the strategic fuel management sense and the renewed passing at certain opportunities. They seem a lot safer to pass.

It was an exciting race...You know when I worked in Indy I made such good lifelong friends that I'll need to go every year to visit.

252 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:34:20am

OMG!

Man hacks wife in front of kids, held

London: A 32-year-old Turkish man has been arrested in Germany after he butchered his wife in front of their six minor children and threw her severed head from the roof of their apartment.

Orhan Sircasi, a resident of Kreuzberg district of German capital Berlin, also tried to attack police officers with a knife as they tried to arrest him Monday, the Daily Mail reported.

He ran to the roof of his five-storey apartment building clutching his wife's severed head, which he threw to the street below. He was then overpowered by police and taken into custody.

His six children are aged from nine months to 10 years.

A neighbour said the accused made his children watch as he butchered their mother.

Neighbours called the police after they heard screams from the flat.

Local media said the man was often violent towards his wife, beating and kicking her if she displeased him, especially after he had been drinking.

253 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:35:17am

re: #252 NJDhockeyfan

OMG!

Man hacks wife in front of kids, held

Poor kids are probably traumatized.

254 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:36:48am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

Poor kids are probably traumatized.

It's only the beginning of June, but I think thats a safe bet as understatement of the year!!

255 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:37:17am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

Poor kids are probably traumatized.

I hope they are getting some psychological help. I can't imagine what that would be like witnessing your mother being killed like that by your dad.

256 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:39:08am

re: #255 NJDhockeyfan

I hope they are getting some psychological help. I can't imagine what that would be like witnessing your mother being killed like that by your dad.

I can't either. Words can't explain that.

257 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:39:30am

re: #252 NJDhockeyfan

OMG!

Man hacks wife in front of kids, held

OMA (Oh my Allah!)

258 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:44:42am

re: #257 Expand Your Ground

OMAR (Oh my Allah RAKI!)

Local media said the man was often violent towards his wife, beating and kicking her if she displeased him, especially after he had been drinking.

ftfy

259 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:47:30am

re: #258 sattv4u2

Local media said the man was often violent towards his wife, beating and kicking her if she displeased him, especially after he had been drinking.

ftfy

so, not very devout...

260 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:50:00am

re: #259 Expand Your Ground

so, not very devout...

I saw no mention in the article as to a religious angle.
I DID see that he was prone to violence when drunk.

Did I miss something?

261 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:50:45am

re: #259 Expand Your Ground

re: #260 sattv4u2

I saw no mention in the article as to a religious angle.
I DID see that he was prone to violence when drunk.

Did I miss something?

Amend that ,, when DRINKING,,,

262 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:51:17am

re: #260 sattv4u2

I saw no mention in the article as to a religious angle.
I DID see that he was prone to violence when drunk.

Did I miss something?

Yes, our comments are far from PC, and even farther from tasteful...

263 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:54:00am

re: #262 Expand Your Ground

Yes, our comments are far from PC, and even farther from tasteful...

"our" comments?

The article stated "especially after he had been drinking."

Hence, my RAKI comment (in that the article also mentions he's Turkish)

OTOH, you introduced the "Allah" angle, where there is no mention of religion in the article

Please leave "me" out of your "our"

264 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:55:22am

I'm confused.

265 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:56:31am

re: #264 RogueOne

I'm confused.

You say that like it's news!
/

266 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:56:52am

re: #263 sattv4u2

You're right.

267 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:57:05am

re: #265 sattv4u2

That's fair. It does seem to happen a lot.

268 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:58:49am

re: #266 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

For future reference, Stoli makes me happy. Doesn't really help with the confusion but it does make me happy.

269 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:01:13am

re: #268 RogueOne

For future reference, Stoli makes me happy. Doesn't really help with the confusion but it does make me happy.

YOU.

I waited for you the whole day.

The samovar is cold.

270 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:02:08am

So,, anywho

Today starts "fun season" at work. From now until the end of the summer, one of us will be on PTO (paid time off,,, vacation) every single day

MEANING ,,, our schedules are FUBAR'd till September to cover (for those that don't know,, we're a 24/7 place)

My body clock is about to be very messed up

Starting tonight I do 3 x 12 hour overnight shifts followed by a Saturday and Sunday 10 hour daytime shift!

Oh ,, joy!!

271 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:04:14am

IAEA: Iranian gov’t not cooperating with nuclear probe

The head of the United Nations (UN) nuclear watchdog on Monday said Iran is not cooperating with its investigation to ensure that the country's nuclear program is of an exclusively peaceful nature. It comes amidst reports that Iran may have attempted to destroy evidence.

International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Director-General Yukiya Amano said the Iranian government is not providing the necessary cooperation to enable the agency to provide credible assurance about the absence of undeclared nuclear material and activities in Iran. This is needed before the IAEA can conclude that all nuclear material and activities in Iran is for peaceful purposes.

...The DigitalGlobe satellite imagery from late May shows that two buildings at the same site as the suspected testing chamber have been demolished. The satellite images also show clear evidence of tracks likely made by heavy machinery during the demolition process and extensive evidence of earth displacement.

The revelations came after news of activity at the site's suspected explosives testing chamber building in early April. Satellite images then showed unidentified items lined up outside the building and a stream of water emanating nearby. This raised allegations that Iran is attempting to cleanse the site, using the stream of water to wash the inside of the building or the items outside.

"The newest image raises concerns that Iran is attempting to raze the site prior to allowing an IAEA visit," the think thank's founder David Albright wrote in a report late last month. "The razing of the two buildings may also indicate that Iran has no intention to allow inspectors access soon. In 2004, Iran razed the Lavisan-Shian site, which held the Physics Research Center (PHRC), interfering with the ability of the IAEA to investigate allegations that the PHRC was involved in military nuclear activities."

The UN can't possible think this is unexpected.

272 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:04:36am

Local news:
IMPD: Man shoots boy, 8, in groin with BB gun on Eastside
[Link: www.indystar.com...]

The boy’s mother, Quashawn Hollis, told police that a man, whom they only know by the name Pooh, shot her son in the groin with a BB gun.

The boy told metropolitan police that he was staying at a friend’s house and playing with a BB gun with his friends when Pooh came over and started using the gun.

According to the police report, the suspect said, “I don’t play with kids — I shoot them,” before shooting the boy. The BB went through his jeans and underwear.

The boy was taken to Community Hospital North to surgically remove the BB.

"Promise me you'll never forget me because if I thought you would I'd never leave shoot you in the balls with a bb gun." -- W.T. Pooh

273 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:05:10am

re: #271 NJDhockeyfan

Apparently Saddam's example taught them nothing.

274 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:06:17am

re: #271 NJDhockeyfan

The UN can't possible think this is unexpected.

It's far worse than that. The inspectors can't even get reservations at a decent 5 star restaurant there!
/

275 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:07:44am

re: #273 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

Apparently Saddam's example taught them nothing.

Saddams mistake was saying "no" one too many times

Maybe the Iranians HAVE learned that lesson and know that they haven't reached that point yet!

276 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:08:33am

re: #272 RogueOne

Nuthin Says Luvin Like A Shot In The Scrotum

277 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:10:04am

re: #263 sattv4u2

"our" comments?

The article stated "especially after he had been drinking."

Hence, my RAKI comment (in that the article also mentions he's Turkish)

OTOH, you introduced the "Allah" angle, where there is no mention of religion in the article

Please leave "me" out of your "our"

Sorry, that was the Royal "We". Been watching too much Jubilee coverage...

(when in doubt, blame it on royalty, what else are they good for?)

278 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:10:11am

Pooh for brains.

279 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:12:01am

re: #276 sattv4u2

When I was in my early 20's I shot my buddy right between the eyes. A few years later, a few weeks before he got married, I got him drunk enough to let us cut it out of his head. We went at him with an exacto-knife and a pair of tweezers. Every time he'd complain about the pain I'd call him a dirty name, tell him to quit whining, and hand him a bottle. At his wedding he had a perfect cross scar on his forehead.

280 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:12:11am

re: #278 Amory Blaine

Pooh for brains.

You should see a physician!

281 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:14:22am

re: #279 RogueOne

Okay ,,, but you seemed to have skipped over THE most important part of the story!
I mean, your surgical skills are to be admired ,, and it's nice that it had a happy ending (a wedding)

BUT

WHY did you shoot your buddy

right between the eyes

in the 1st place!?!?!?!

282 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:18:38am

re: #281 sattv4u2

Okay ,,, but you seemed to have skipped over THE most important part of the story!
I mean, your surgical skills are to be admired ,, and it's nice that it had a happy ending (a wedding)

BUT

WHY did you shoot your buddy

in the 1st place!?!?!?!

I have a strong feeling that the words "Hold my beer and watch this" came into play.

283 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:19:33am

re: #281 sattv4u2

There was alcohol involved. I beat him to the punch. I don't really remember how it all started but there were a bunch of people involved and we replaced quite a few windows. The guy I shot had shoved a bb gun through the kitchen window so he could shoot someone earlier in the evening. It was his eulogy I gave a couple weekends ago. I told part of the story, letting us cut him, but left out how stinking drunk we all were.

284 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:20:45am

re: #282 Mostly sane, most of the time.

I have a strong feeling that the words "Hold my beer and watch this" came into play.

That, and "I double dare you"
OR
"you're not man enough to pull that trigger"

285 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:21:22am

re: #284 sattv4u2
or
Excuse me while I whip this out.

286 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:28:21am

More Breaking Local News!

1,000 pounds of pot worth $1M seized south of Lafayette
[Link: www.indystar.com...]

Two Indianapolis-area men face felony drug charges after Indiana State Police discovered more than 1,000 pounds of suspected marijuana in a pickup during a traffic stop last night.
....
Police stopped the 2009 Chevrolet Silverado for a minor traffic violation on southbound I-65 near Lafayette. After the stories of the driver and passenger contained discrepancies, the state troopers requested a K-9 officer.

Consent was given to search the vehicle and police found 43 bundles of what appeared to be pot in the truck’s bed, the release said.

The police always say they smell weed even when it's non-existent, how could they not have smelled 1000lbs?

[Link: cmsimg.indystar.com...]

287 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:31:17am

re: #286 RogueOne

More Breaking Local News!

1,000 pounds of pot worth $1M seized south of Lafayette

Keep in mind when the police announce that they have busted x million worth of dope, it means that 9 times x million has gotten through: they never interdict more than 10% of the supply.

289 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:32:57am

re: #288 Be Zorch, Daddio

Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...

>Early indications show vote totals could rival presidential election totals

high voter turnout is a good sign.

290 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:33:36am

re: #286 RogueOne

The police always say they smell weed even when it's non-existent, how could they not have smelled 1000lbs

Image: tree.jpg

291 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:34:52am

Spider Invasion Spooks Indian Village

Panicked villagers in a remote Indian state complained Monday of an invasion of giant venomous spiders that resemble tarantulas but are unknown to local specialists.

Indian media said that a dozen people had been bitten and treated in hospital, with two unconfirmed deaths reported.

"Initially we thought it was a prank, but later on we saw swarms of this peculiar kind of spider biting people," Ranjit Das, a community elder in the town of Sadiya in the northeastern state of Assam, told Agence France Presse by telephone.

..."It appears to be an aggressive spider with its fangs more powerful than the normal variety of house spiders," he told AFP.

292 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:35:21am

re: #288 Be Zorch, Daddio

I'm wondering at how motivated people can still be after voting so many times in the last year. I'll be impressed if it gets close to the 2010 totals.

293 BeenHereAwhile  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:41:17am

re: #15 b_sharp

The players are members of a union. The rich teams have their profits redistributed to the poorer teams.

The NFL is a partnership made up of team owners.

Each team owner shares equally in the profits from NFL TV broadcasting rights and merchandising, to be spent at their discretion. Ticket sales are treated a little differently, but the bulk of NFL team profits come from profit sharing.

So the GB Packers don't fit in with the "new" Wisconsin. The players are members of a strong union, and the team owners are socialists.

294 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:45:49am

[Link: host.madison.com...]

The Government Accountability Board has received complaints about robocalls, including some saying petition signers don't have to vote today to be counted in the election.

Not true, said Reid Magney, spokesman for the board. Petition signers still need to vote, he said.

"We're telling people to be skeptical about information they get from robocalls, emails, door-to-door canvassers, etc." he said in an email. "Rely on information from sources you trust, such as newspapers, TV and radio stations."

LOLOL

295 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:47:01am

re: #293 BeenHereAwhile

The NFL is a partnership made up of team owners.

Each team owner shares equally in the profits from NFL TV broadcasting rights and merchandising, to be spent at their discretion. Ticket sales are treated a little differently, but the bulk of NFL team profits come from profit sharing.

So the GB Packers don't fit in with the "new" Wisconsin. The players are members of a strong union, and the team owners are socialists.

And they have a taxpayer-funded minor league training and recruiting system in the form of college sports...

297 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:55:14am

re: #296 Kragar

How Republicans Are Preventing Thousands Of Wisconsin Students From Voting Today

Way to encourage participation in our democracy, jerks. At my university when there was a precinct proposed on campus(freshman whom live on campus can't own vehicles and the closest polling place is a ways away and we have alot of out of area students too) the local Republicans tried to block it. I hate to venture into CT territory but these guys know their party doesn't do as well with more people voting.

298 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:55:57am

re: #289 Expand Your Ground

high voter turnout is a good sign.

I waited an hour in line at about 8:30 am and the line grew by about a third by the time I left.

edit: Maybe more like 45 minutes.

299 Kragar  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:57:01am

Going to vote after work today, didn't have time this morning.

300 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:58:27am

Daytona police chief claims judge has 'bias' in drug case
[Link: www.news-journalonline.com...]

The judge "skewed" the facts.

That's what outraged Daytona Beach Police Chief Mike Chitwood accused Circuit Judge Joseph Will of doing when the jurist said he believed the word of an elderly woman over two officers who made a drug arrest.

In a strongly worded letter of criticism rarely seen from a police chief to a judge, Chitwood lashed out at Will, saying he'd "impugned the integrity" of the Daytona Beach officers.

The letter came a day after prosecutors confirmed they were dismissing the drug-possession case against David Beauprez, 46. The move came in the wake of Will's ruling against the credibility of the two arresting police officers.

"Will had no right to call the officers liars," Chitwood said Tuesday.

Oh, but he did....

On the night of Sept. 10 police, when they knocked on her door, told Beauprez's mother that they were investigating a 9-1-1 disconnect.

The officers told her they wanted to make sure everyone was safe. But they were really looking for drugs. Beauprez was arrested when the officers opened a drawer to found pills and a pot pipe.

The Judge's Ruling:
[Link: www.theagitator.com...]

The mother of the defendant was not shown in any manner to be a person unlikely to tell the truth. The officer, on the other hand, clearly lied to gain access to her home. A person who admits his lie in the opening seconds of his testimony before the court cannot be heard moments later to say that his first lie was his only lie. Culling the lies from the truth in the testimony of a single witness is, indeed, an exercise in futility. This court suggests that none of us has the ability to parse the truth that well, and it would be intellectually dishonest to even tread that path.

The rest of the ruling makes for great reading and includes:

What are the costs of teaching the community that law enforcement officers, whom ideally deserve the trust of the citizen, cannot be trusted to tell the simple truth? That no one is wearing the white hat anymore? That the ends justify the means? That the virtue of honesty is essential in our families and individual lives, but that same virtue is optional for the executive branch of our government in the exercise of its police powers? A nation founded on the notions we find in our Constitution is surely better than this.

301 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 9:59:16am

re: #291 NJDhockeyfan

Spider Invasion Spooks Indian Village

That's a great story.
But it appears it may have been embroidered upon.

302 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:00:16am

re: #298 Amory Blaine

I waited an hour in line at about 8:30 am and the line grew by about a third by the time I left.

206K absentee ballots too.

When I early voted there was a long line at the clerks office. They were open for voting on Memorial Day here in Madison and there was a three hour wait in line at one point.

303 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:01:03am

Hopefully we won't be getting any surprises out of Waukesha county this time.

304 Kragar  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:01:26am

Everyone knows the Giant Spider Invasion happened in Wisconsin anyways.

305 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:02:42am

re: #304 Kragar

Everyone knows the Giant Spider Invasion happened in Wisconsin anyways.

Well, EXACTLY.

306 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:03:17am

re: #304 Kragar

Everyone knows the Giant Spider Invasion happened in Wisconsin anyways.

It started on Mars...

307 Kragar  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:03:54am

re: #306 Expand Your Ground

It started on Mars...

Nope, Wisconsin.

Youtube Video
308 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:04:03am

re: #291 NJDhockeyfan

Spider Invasion Spooks Indian Village

While checking out the spider story I came across this one that made me giggle.

Photobomb

309 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:06:13am

re: #308 RayFerd

While checking out the spider story I came across this one that made me giggle.

Photobomb

Those praying mantis's are such hams in front of a camera lens.

310 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:07:58am

[Link: www.theonion.com...]
Haha a lot of truth to this.

311 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:13:36am

re: #310 HappyWarrior

[Link: www.theonion.com...]
Haha a lot of truth to this.

if he showed up at the office today, would throw a tantrum upon seeing what his business has become. And then I would calmly call security to escort him out of the building.

Yep, exactly like the fundies would do if Jesus showed up in their church and asked them WTF are they doing to the Least of These My Brethren.

313 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:15:09am

Brat Puppy may have a

get out of jail free

card..

314 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:17:20am

Ending his show? Bummer, It's one of the few programs I enjoy watching.

Anthony Bourdain's Final Travel Channel Destination? Brooklyn

When news came out that Anthony Bourdain would be wrapping up No Reservations on the Travel Channel and moving his act to CNN we wondered where the always-entertaining sometimes-chef would cap the show off. And now we know. Brooklyn, of course.

With a little help from Michael K. Williams (always Omar to us), Bourdain has wrapped up a tour of the borough for episodes that presumably will air in the show's final run next year. Of course, this isn't the first time Omar's been comin' round to show Bourdain around. He was in the 2009 No Reservations episode shot in Baltimore (along with much of the cast for The Wire).

As for why Bourdain is moving to CNN? "We are all assuming a worldwide news organization can get us into locales we otherwise might have problems with. Libya. The Congo. Myanmar...Yemen." Now that would be something!

Anyway: The final location Bourdain will be dropping by sans reservations? Jay & Lloyd's on Avenue U and East 28th. You have been forewarned.

315 RogueOne  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:17:43am

Little Debbie Makes Me Ask: Why Are So Many Would-Be Censors Stone Crazy?
[Link: www.popehat.com...]

"Commentator" Debbie Schlussel is the stream of bat's piss that shines out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark........
....
Much of Little Debbie's freakout happened on Twitter, the ideal platform for people who already communicate in word fragments, glottal clicks, and vaguely threatening grunts. I'm having trouble piecing together exactly what set her off on her Twitter feed. Perhaps it was mockery over her recent assertion that Snow White And The Huntsman should be read as Muslim propaganda. Perhaps it was criticism of her suggestion — apparently aimed at a critic who was a non-white doctor — that some doctors wouldn't be doctors without affirmative action.

At any rate, Little Debbie did not react well to criticism. She lashed out at critics, including attacking one for being a "fake convert" Jew and thus somehow inauthentic. When a few people suggested she had used twitter on the sabbath, she began to issue legal threats and demands, demanding retraction and threatening a defamation action, chortling that she would sue in Michigan to make things more expensive for her foes, suggesting that she would attack the careers of her detractors, threatening critical attorneys with bar actions, and ridiculing possible opposing counsel based on their sexual preference. Debbie repeatedly vowed that she knows the law, despite being under the false impression that prevailing plaintiffs in defamation cases get attorney fees. Perhaps she's confused about what country she's in. And, most of all, she pressed her theme that her detractors are just jealous of her awesomeness. [Note: If Little Debbie sends any of these down the memory hole, I have screenshots.]

Her threats were not confined to Twitter — she was also issuing legal threats and demands based on an article about her at Right Wing News. I'd quote it but the whole site is down as of the time of this writing, possibly because she ate it.

It's difficult to see how Little Debbie thinks she can prevail in a defamation action. She's a public figure, and she'd have to prove that her detractors acted with actual malice in saying that she tweeted on the sabbath. Even if she could do that, she'd have to prove damages. I ask you — how can you possibly make the reputation of someone like Debbie Schlussel any worse than it already is? Also, I must ask Debbie herself: you rant and rage about how Americans are insufficiently muscular and aggressive in the face of the various foes you perceive. Is this the sort of strength, the sort of bold Americanism, the sort of fighting spirit you are looking for — encouraging people to run to the courts to sue when someone is very mildly mean to them on Twitter? You sniveling pissant.

It's a long, detailed piece, and it doesn't get any nicer the longer it goes....

316 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:19:16am

re: #311 RayFerd

Yep, exactly like the fundies would do if Jesus showed up in their church and asked them WTF are they doing to the Least of These My Brethren.

Pretty much.

317 Mattand  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:19:34am

re: #303 Amory Blaine

Hopefully we won't be getting any surprises out of Waukesha county this time.

Buddy of mine lives in Waukesha. Need to check up with him. As I said on an earlier thread, I've known him since 6th grade. This is the angriest I've ever seen him, and he doesn't get angry. Ever.

318 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:20:48am

re: #315 RogueOne

It's a long, detailed piece, and it doesn't get any nicer the longer it goes...

That's what she said.

319 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:21:22am

Hahaha epic theocrat FAIL:

320 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:22:21am

It's primary day in NJ too, but there's not much at stake unless you're a voter living in the new NJ 9 district, where you've got two Democrats battling for the seat (Pascrell and Rothman). Due to redistricting, they get to fight it out, and Scott Garrett gets a pass (I'm now in his district - NJ 5). Rothman had represented the area since 1997.

Instead of running against Garrett, Rothman chose to run against Pascrell. The demographics of the 5th are such that Garrett would win handily, and the Democrats would win handily in the 9th, regardless of who wins.

Instead of getting competitive elections, the redistricting has resulted in one-party rule in these districts, and the political leaders in the state are perfectly content with that scheme.

321 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:23:00am

re: #319 Interesting Times

Hahaha epic theocrat FAIL:

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These fellows are extreme ideologues. They would rather sit there isolated on their horde of Vatican treasures and retain doctrinal purity than to reach out and embrace the masses that dare to think differently.

322 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:23:22am

re: #314 NJDhockeyfan

Jay and Lloyd's is his final destination? I'd have gone with Mill Basin Deli myself, but it's a Jewish deli, and props to him for making that move. I read that he was switching to CNN because it might give him access to countries that have been off-limits to him before...

323 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:25:28am

re: #319 Interesting Times

Hahaha epic theocrat FAIL:

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n my fb

324 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:25:46am

Barbara Lorman: I was GOP lawmaker, but I’m voting for Barrett

Dear Editor: Why would a longtime Republican and former legislator vote for Democrats Lori Compas and Tom Barrett? Why would a business looking to expand consider moving to a state that is ruled by right-wing extremists whose ideology has caused endless conflict? Why would anyone look up to leaders on a mission to tear apart public education just when we need educated workers more than ever?

I believe a national agenda is at work here that has little or nothing to do with us and a lot to do with changing how we will look to the rest of the nation. Ask yourself if you want us to look like those states where parents with enough money avoid the public schools.

326 Mattand  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:27:25am

re: #320 lawhawk

Instead of getting competitive elections, the redistricting has resulted in one-party rule in these districts, and the political leaders in the state are perfectly content with that scheme.

My town is changing congressional districts this year, going from a primarily GOP one to a primarily Dem one. The town itself leans Dem, so I'm not sure if we were kicked out of the 3rd or volunteered to go to the 1st, LOL.

327 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:27:26am

re: #321 Expand Your Ground

These fellows are extreme ideologues. They would rather sit there isolated on their horde of Vatican treasures and retain doctrinal purity than to reach out and embrace the masses that dare to think differently.

While I understand these guys think in terms of 100 of years, I think it is obvious, they are falling into the same category as the Whacko Iman's. Making decisions based on Medieval facts. The Society they are supposed to serve has progressed beyond post-plague feudalism.

328 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:29:54am

re: #324 Amory Blaine

Barbara Lorman: I was GOP lawmaker, but I’m voting for Barrett

Obviously the unions paid her off//

329 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:30:44am

re: #327 ggt

While I understand these guys think in terms of 100 of years, I think it is obvious, they are falling into the same category as the Whacko Iman's. Making decisions based on Medieval facts. The Society they are supposed to serve has progressed beyond post-plague feudalism.

Honestly, I'm beginning to wonder how much of that Medieval History was written by the men in the Church. How much further we might be if Women had freedom back then?

330 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:30:51am

re: #326 mattand

Our town is largely Democratic, and Garrett's district is strong GOP, so it looks like we were sacrificed on the altar of political purity. Taking one for the team as it were - but we might be able to make life miserable for Garrett down the road... if the Democrats ever bother to run someone against Garrett.

331 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:31:09am

re: #320 lawhawk

That race has been hit with the ugly stick...

New Jersey Race Turns Ugly Over Jews and Israel

The Democratic race between Reps. Steve Rothman and Bill Pascrell in New Jersey has morphed into a battle over religion and political views on Israel as some local Arabs attacked Rothman for being Jewish and pro-Israel.

“One side says, ‘We want this Jew out of office’ and, frankly, it’s pretty unsettling…They emphasized [Rothman] is a Jewish congressman,” Ben Chouake, president of NORPAC, a pro-Israel political action committee based in Englewood Cliffs, told the Washington Free Beacon. Last week an Arabic campaign poster surfaced in the area, expressing support for Pascrell and urging the Arab community to elect “the friend of the Arabs.”

According to Josh Block, a Democratic strategist and former spokesman for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, “the pro-Pascrell posters…are not calling to elect the candidate who supports a strong relationship between America and the only democracy in the Middle East, one which is rooted in progressive Western values—women’s rights, gay rights, tolerance, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc.”

332 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:32:08am

Walker enjoying talk radio megaphone today - - as always

It's 11:45 a.m. on recall election day in Wisconsin, and it's already been a busy morning at the office for Wisconsin conservative talkers determined to drive up Scott Walker's vote total.

AM 620 WTMJ morning righty talker Charlie Sykes is now into his fourth straight hour of pro-Walker, anti-Barrett voter encouragement.

Along with airing a live interview with Republican national committee chair Reince Priebus and conservative voter polling place testimonials, Sykes has managed to call Barrett a "crappy" Mayor.

Sykes has also broadcast rumors of voting fraudsters on their way to Wisconsin by bus from Michigan and intimated that more ballot shenanigans will happen tonight in Milwaukee, Madison and Kenosha.

Noon update - - righty talker Jeff Wagner picks right up where Sykes left off.

Every election day, conservative talk radio in Wisconsin gives Republican candidates a tremendous boost, but its value does not show up in any accounting of campaign support.

333 dragonath  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:33:37am

Oh, I didn't know this about Wisconsin:

State law guarantees time off to vote

334 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:33:42am

I don't think my district will ever change hands. Frank Wolf has been here since before I was born. This seat is his as long as he wants it or if gets involved in a scandal which would shock me since while I think him wrong on the issues, I don't think him corrupt.

335 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:33:46am

re: #331 NJDhockeyfan

Thing is that both Rothman and Pascrell are both good on Israel, though Pascrell represents one of the larger Muslim communities in the country in Paterson. He's had to work with those in his district who don't share a pro-Israel outlook, so his views get tempered with that. With an election this close - and expensive in terms of a Congressional primary, every little difference is blown out of proportion.

336 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:34:12am
337 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:34:33am

re: #336 Interesting Times

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Haha.

338 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:35:21am

re: #325 Kragar

Ally of Pamela Gellar's Stop Islamization Organization testifies for Breivik's defense

I just checked Pam's site for the first time in ages. She's now a Le Penn supporter. What an idiot.

339 Big Steve  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:36:03am

For those that follow the Texas State Board of Education (SBOE) last week's long delayed primaries were somewhat mixed although I found some hope. There were nine candidates in the Republican primary that were endorsed by the Religious Far Right. Four lost, four won, and one has a run-off. Gail Lowe who was the incumbent for district 14 lost. She was chair of the SBOE during the social studies curriculum change. Newcomers backed by the religious groups who also lost were Veronica Anzaldua (District 1), Randy Stevenson (District 9) and Jeff Fleece (District 10). However four candidates also supported by them.... current board chair Barbara Cargill (District 8), incumbent Ken Mercer (District 5), incumbent David Bradley (District 7) and candidate Marty Rowley (District 15) all won. Bradley was a huge disappointment to me because a strong moderate Republican (Rita Ashley) ran against him. When I asked Rita personally at a forum: "How old is the Earth?"...without a pause she said "4 billion years." Hated to see her lose. Gail Spurlock, a religious-right candidate in District 12, made it into a runoff against former SBOE member Geraldine “Tincy” Miller.

340 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:36:28am

Fun with cucumbers!

Image: P1000811.jpeg

341 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:37:53am

re: #338 Killgore Trout

I just checked Pam's site for the first time in ages. She's now a Le Penn supporter. What an idiot.

Okay, she has officially lost any right to question the president's commitment to Israel. Not that she had much in the first place but LePen jeez. But hey he's anti-Muslim so she's cool with him and his crazy daughter. It's a dangerous game she is playing.

342 Mattand  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:38:10am

re: #331 NJDhockeyfan

re: #335 lawhawk

Hey, at least they're focusing on jobs!

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343 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:38:59am

re: #340 reine.de.tout

Fun with cucumbers!

Image: P1000811.jpeg

lol. still having problems?

344 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:39:08am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

Okay, she has officially lost any right to question the president's commitment to Israel. Not that she had much in the first place but LePen jeez. But hey he's anti-Muslim so she's cool with him and his crazy daughter. It's a dangerous game she is playing.

A real-time example of how hate blinds.

345 Amory Blaine  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:39:29am

Right wingers are on the radio claiming unions are being bussed in from Michigan to vote.

346 Kragar  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:39:57am

re: #340 reine.de.tout

Fun with cucumbers!

Image: P1000811.jpeg

You think that's fun? Check this out.

347 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:39:59am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

Okay, she has officially lost any right to question the president's commitment to Israel. Not that she had much in the first place but LePen jeez. But hey he's anti-Muslim so she's cool with him and his crazy daughter. It's a dangerous game she is playing.

It's hard to tell but it looks like Madonna is using the SIOE logo in her stage show. Heh

348 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:40:16am

re: #338 Killgore Trout

I just checked Pam's site for the first time in ages. She's now a Le Penn supporter. What an idiot.

Madonna isn't.


Madonna Brands Le Pen With Swastika

Kicking off her world tour in Tel Aviv last week, Madonna featured a multimedia backdrop for one song that included a brief image of French Front National leader Marine Le Pen’s face with a swastika on her forehead (h/t Jewcy). The symbol is white, and actually faces the opposite direction of the traditional Nazi insignia (as well as its Hindu antecedent).

However, Le Pen is still le pissed: “If [Madonna] does that in France, we’ll be waiting for her,” she said, and threatened to sue. It’s a touchy subject for Le Pen, given that her party still has prominent Holocaust deniers, such as her own father, who led it until very recently.

Heh.

349 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:41:45am

re: #348 NJDhockeyfan

Madonna isn't.

Madonna Brands Le Pen With Swastika

Heh.

Madonna has more brains than Pam Geller. That's not shocking considering Pam Geller.

350 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:42:51am

re: #344 ggt

A real-time example of how hate blinds.

It's her life mission. Hate, hate, and then hate some more. She has a pathological hatred of all things Muslim. Truly a scary woman considering her alliances with the fascist orgs.

351 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:43:56am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

She lost that right long ago - when she decided to affiliate herself with the right wing neo Nazis and extremists in the name of Islamophobia.

352 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:45:45am

re: #351 lawhawk

She lost that right long ago - when she decided to affiliate herself with the right wing neo Nazis and extremists in the name of Islamophobia.

No doubt about that too. She's a vile fascist.

353 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:45:46am

re: #351 lawhawk

She lost that right long ago - when she decided to affiliate herself with the right wing neo Nazis and extremists in the name of Islamophobia.

Even though these guys share an extreme hatred of Judaism with the Islamists they despise...

354 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:48:08am

re: #353 Expand Your Ground

Even though these guys share an extreme hatred of Judaism with the Islamists they despise...

There in lies the point. Not just Judaism but the Jewish people. LePen is a Holocaust denier if I recall if not that a minimizer.

356 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:50:03am

re: #343 Killgore Trout

lol. still having problems?

Obviously. And they're getting WORSE. LOL.

357 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:51:03am

re: #346 Kragar

You think that's fun? Check this out.

Dating fails, LOL.

358 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:51:30am

re: #356 reine.de.tout

Obviously. And they're getting WORSE. LOL.

Bummer. Still no clue what the problem might be?

359 simoom  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:54:22am
360 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:55:39am

Taliban buying prisoner release

KABUL, Afghanistan, June 5 (UPI) -- Taliban figures held in some cases for allegedly attacking international forces were freed after paying off Afghan officials, leaders said.

U.S. military officials were quoted by The Daily Telegraph newspaper in London as saying dozens of Taliban members may have been released from jail after bribing local officials in eastern Ghazni province.

"We are talking about people who may have American blood on their hands," one officer told the newspaper on condition of anonymity.

A former Afghan intelligence official from Ghazni confirmed to the British newspaper that Taliban corruption has been ongoing.

361 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:56:08am

re: #358 Killgore Trout

Bummer. Still no clue what the problem might be?

It's been suggested: soil, water supply intermittent, too much water, not enough water, needs fertilizer, too much fertilizer, cross-bred with squash - I haven't yet found what the bottom line problem is. But that's OK. I have new ones planted, so I'll see what happens with them.

362 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:57:43am

re: #361 reine.de.tout

It's been suggested: soil, water supply intermittent, too much water, not enough water, needs fertilizer, too much fertilizer, cross-bred with squash - I haven't yet found what the bottom line problem is. But that's OK. I have new ones planted, so I'll see what happens with them.

Mine are just coming in, and show the same distortion. We're at about the same latitude, but it's been drier here.

363 Kragar  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:58:53am

Court rejects appeal to overturn Prop. 8 ruling, case could head to Supreme Court

A federal appeals court ruled on Tuesday that it will not review a three-judge panel's decision to overturn California's Proposition 8, which banned same-sex marriage.

After this ruling by the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, Prop. 8 proponents are expected to appeal the case to the U.S. Supreme Court, putting the battle for same-sex marriage on a national stage, reports the Los Angeles Times. The Supreme Court could decide to hear the case as part of its docket next year.

The ruling comes after a federal appeals court in Boston Thursday ruled that the government's ban on gay marriage, called the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), violates the Constitution and should be struck down.

364 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:00:13am

re: #363 Kragar

Court rejects appeal to overturn Prop. 8 ruling, case could head to Supreme Court

Kennedy will be the key vote.

365 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:01:04am

re: #361 reine.de.tout

It's been suggested: soil, water supply intermittent, too much water, not enough water, needs fertilizer, too much fertilizer, cross-bred with squash - I haven't yet found what the bottom line problem is. But that's OK. I have new ones planted, so I'll see what happens with them.

Diagnosing plant problems is always difficult. I unusually just take a guess. Remember that it takes a plant at least 2 weeks (maybe more) to notice a change so whatever you do just keep doing it for a few weeks then try something else.

366 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:01:04am

Amazing...check it out...

Live Rocket-Propelled Grenade Removed from Marine’s Leg

It was a medevac mission like few others that required heroic choices from all involved.

On January 12, Marine Lance Corporal Winder Perez was wounded in a Taliban attack in southern Afghanistan. The live explosive and a foot-long remnant from a rocket propelled grenade (RPG) remained lodged in his leg.
A crew of four New Mexico National Guardsmen agreed to take on the risky assignment of flying him by medevac helicopter to get medical care.
“Each of us on the aircraft had to agree to take the patient on,” Spc. Mark Edens told ABC News affiliate KOAT-TV in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

“There was quite a bit of alarm among the crew at the time, as you can imagine,” Capt. Kevin Doo told KOAT. “If the RPG exploded, you know Spc. Edens and Sgt. Hardesty are working on the patient directly over him, shrapnel alone would have been devastating. And about 18 inches behind where the patient is lying is over 300 gallons of jet aviation fuel, and it would have been catastrophic.”

When Perez arrived at the field hospital 65 miles away, he was not brought inside. Instead Navy Lt. Cmdr. James Gennari and Army Staff Sergeant Ben Summerfield, an explosives expert, stood by his gurney and undertook the risky move of removing the foot-long section of the RPG from his leg. Wearing full combat gear and a flak jacket, Summerfield literally yanked the RPG from his leg, so that medical teams could treat his injuries.

Here is the video:

Youtube Video
367 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:02:27am

re: #362 Decatur Deb

Mine are just coming in, and show the same distortion. We're at about the same latitude, but it's been drier here.

Well, that's interesting. I wonder what's up? These later ones are tasting better than the earlier ones. But I'm getting all sorts of weird shapes.

368 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:03:23am

re: #365 Killgore Trout

Diagnosing plant problems is always difficult. I unusually just take a guess. Remember that it takes a plant at least 2 weeks (maybe more) to notice a change so whatever you do just keep doing it for a few weeks then try something else.

ah. OK, will do - thanks.

369 dragonath  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:04:40am

The host.madison site has a twitter sidebar where their journalists are asking voters what their intention is. Some of these people make me want to bang my head against a wall.

"Indy voter said we should keep whoever is elected in office no matter if we like them or not."

...

370 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:07:37am

re: #369 Be Zorch, Daddio

The host.madison site has a twitter sidebar where their journalists are asking voters what their intention is. Some of these people make me want to bang my head against a wall.

...

There used to be a time when journalists had to actually go out, investigate, and report on stories in person. Now they just have to sit in front of a computer and Tweet.

371 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:07:43am

re: #369 Be Zorch, Daddio

The host.madison site has a twitter sidebar where their journalists are asking voters what their intention is. Some of these people make me want to bang my head against a wall.

...

Yeah, honestly I am not big on recalls but if one is there, you should be voting for whom you think is best.

372 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:10:08am

Remember the creepy tanning booth mom? Here are some pictures of her before she started cooking herself in a tanning bed. She was pretty cute.

373 Kragar  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:14:53am

Zombies Roman The Ancient Empire? Clive Barker And Amazon Studios Say Yes!

In greater and greater numbers, zombies continue to swarm not only movies and TV series–the Game of Thrones season finale the latest example–but have even been referenced in a number of actual recent gruesome crimes. Now, author and filmmaker Clive Barker is unleashing them on the Roman Empire. Amazon Studios has set the Hellraiser helmer to rewrite and direct Zombies vs. Gladiators. The studio, part of Amazon.com, is planning a film in which a shaman about to die in the Coliseum casts a spell that rouses history’s first wave of zombies. It’s up to a gladiator to stop the spread of the zombie horde and save Rome. Are you not entertained?

374 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:15:58am

re: #373 Kragar

Zombies Roman The Ancient Empire? Clive Barker And Amazon Studios Say Yes!

I'm going to say something unpopular but enough of zombies.

375 Kragar  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:18:53am

re: #374 HappyWarrior

I'm going to say something unpopular but enough of zombies.

OK, no more movies about inner city kids over coming adversity to win the big competition against the meanies at the private school and we have a deal.

376 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:19:39am

re: #373 Kragar

The odds are ever in your favor of more zombies... all that's missing is Harryhausen to stop motion animate the zombies and shambling hordes.

Wait, that's not the history I know / Commodus

377 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:20:29am

re: #374 HappyWarrior

I'm going to say something unpopular but enough of zombies.

The CDC has made it clear that there is no zombie apocalypse going on.

378 Kragar  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:21:36am

re: #377 NJDhockeyfan

The CDC has made it clear that there is no zombie apocalypse going on.

Duh, like they would tell you. They're trying to prevent a panic.

379 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:24:43am

re: #375 Kragar

OK, no more movies about inner city kids over coming adversity to win the big competition against the meanies at the private school and we have a deal.

or teacher goes to inner city and teaches students to believe in themselves. I saw Stand and Deliver too many times for one lifetime.

380 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:25:28am

re: #378 Kragar

Just to be safe, it's time to review the rules.

Double tap.
Cardio.
Bounty - the quicker picker upper.
When to (not) be a hero.
Enjoy the little things.
etc.

I'd add:
Ammo.
Gasoline.
Know your food availability...

381 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:26:46am

re: #378 Kragar

Duh, like they would tell you. They're trying to prevent a panic.

Well in that case we all need one of these.

Zombie Apocalypse Survival Guide

382 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:26:47am

re: #357 reine.de.tout

Dating fails, LOL.

taken at a time when the only people who saw such photos were the developers and the people you showed them to. Nowadays you have to be careful, once a digiphoto gets out there, there's no stopping its spread...

383 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:27:32am

re: #374 HappyWarrior

I'm going to say something unpopular but enough of zombies.

Hmm.

Vampires are over. Zombies are over.

That leaves werewolves and aliens.

Pick.

384 dragonath  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:28:33am

Furry were-vulcans!

385 Kragar  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:29:15am

re: #383 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Hmm.

Vampires are over. Zombies are over.

That leaves werewolves and aliens.

Pick.

Alien Werewolves

Doctor Who - Season 2, Episode 2 "Tooth and Claw"

386 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:29:43am

re: #383 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Hmm.

Vampires are over. Zombies are over.

That leaves werewolves and aliens.

Pick.

Werewolves.

387 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:30:45am

re: #340 reine.de.tout

Fun with cucumbers!

Image: P1000811.jpeg

Looks like they crossed with some wild cucumbers - got the spiky look that those have.

388 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:30:50am

What's that old saying about a woman scorned?

Group sets out to teach GOP a lesson and "Rock the Slut" vote

Watch out Republicans, here come the sluts.

Women's rights activists are banding together to "Rock the Slut Vote" in an online effort to register women to vote and cast their ballots against Republicans in 2012.

"If the GOP thinks that throwing the word 'slut' at us at this point is going to silence women they have another thing coming," said Susan McMillan Emry, the site's founder.

Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh thrust the derogatory word into the political arena in February when he called law student Sandra Fluke a "slut" for testifying before Congress in support of contraceptives.

Following the national backlash over Limbaugh's name-calling, "Rock the Slut Vote" is now aiming to "diffuse" the offensive term, Emry said.

389 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:31:35am

re: #387 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

Looks like they crossed with some wild cucumbers - got the spiky look that those have.

Those sluts!

390 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:31:42am

re: #386 HappyWarrior

Werewolves.

Wait, I've got it!

Alien Werewolf....ZOMBIES!!

391 dragonfire1981  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:32:09am

re: #389 b_sharp

Those sluts!

Heh, look at the post you came in behind.

392 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:33:03am

re: #375 Kragar

OK, no more movies about inner city kids over coming adversity to win the big competition against the meanies at the private school and we have a deal.

But what if it's a *zombie* private school?

393 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:33:03am

re: #374 HappyWarrior

I'm going to say something unpopular but enough of zombies.

I liked "World War Z" not so much for the zombies but for the way it was an allegory of the way that a crisis spreads in the modern world: first we ignore it, then deny its, then we try to hush up and cover up its existence, all of which simply promote its spread.

Then the initial "official" countermeasures backfire because they were designed to combat an entirely different kind of problem and then we finally learn to re-think our way of doing things to regain control of the situation.

And I liked "Shawn of the Dead" for the writing and acting.

The rest of the Zombie canon I can live (or be undead) without.

394 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:33:25am

re: #391 dragonfire1981

Heh, look at the post you came in behind.

Talk about timing.

395 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:34:10am

re: #393 Expand Your Ground

I liked "World War Z" not so much for the zombies but for the way it was an allegory of the way that a crisis spreads in the modern world: first we ignore it, then deny its, then we try to hush up and cover up its existence, all of which simply promote its spread.

Then the initial "official" countermeasures backfire because they were designed to combat an entirely different kind of problem and then we finally learn to re-think our way of doing things to regain control of the situation.

And I liked "Shawn of the Dead" for the writing and acting.

The rest of the Zombie canon I can live (or be undead) without.

That's the way it is in all genres.

A few great examples, some mediocrity, some terrible sludge.

396 Interesting Times  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:35:50am

*sigh* If you're going to be a proudly bigoted member of the debased GOP base, at least get the party colors right:

397 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:36:03am

I did like Zombieland. I guess what kind of annoys me is the blending of zombies in with other topics. Surprised we haven't had Zombie vikings yet or Zombie colonials.

398 Kragar  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:36:09am

re: #393 Expand Your Ground

I liked "World War Z" not so much for the zombies but for the way it was an allegory of the way that a crisis spreads in the modern world: first we ignore it, then deny its, then we try to hush up and cover up its existence, all of which simply promote its spread.

Then the initial "official" countermeasures backfire because they were designed to combat an entirely different kind of problem and then we finally learn to re-think our way of doing things to regain control of the situation.

And I liked "Shawn of the Dead" for the writing and acting.

The rest of the Zombie canon I can live (or be undead) without.

I can't wait to see the Battle of Yonkers on the big screen.

399 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:36:22am

re: #385 Kragar

Alien Werewolves

Doctor Who - Season 2, Episode 2 "Tooth and Claw"

How about Coeurls?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

400 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:37:31am

re: #398 Kragar

I can't wait to see the Battle of Yonkers on the big screen.

I heard that film got put on hold...

401 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:37:36am

re: #396 Interesting Times

*sigh* If you're going to be a proudly bigoted member of the debased GOP base, at least get the party colors right:

[Embedded content]

What a maroon. And though it's not his pont, his sign makes it appear he is arguing Republicans are pro crime.

402 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:37:44am

Zombies are eternal.
Vampires are ephemeral.
Lycanthropes are chimeral.

Politicians are ...

403 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:37:52am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

Okay, she has officially lost any right to question the president's commitment to Israel. Not that she had much in the first place but LePen jeez. But hey he's anti-Muslim so she's cool with him and his crazy daughter. It's a dangerous game she is playing.

She's not cool with him, but she is cool with her.

404 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:38:29am

re: #403 I'm back in the USSR (sigh)

She's not cool with him, but she is cool with her.

Ah the daughter? When KT said LePen, I thought of the old man.

405 Kragar  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:38:30am

re: #400 Expand Your Ground

I heard that film got put on hold...

I WILL END YOU!

406 Kragar  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:39:41am

Nope, its currently in post production and scheduled for release in June, 2013.

407 AK-47%  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:40:11am

re: #405 Kragar

I WILL END YOU!

I was disappointed, too.

But I do privately wonder if the sub-plot of illegal Chinese human organ vendors spreading Zombie disease led some potential investors to back down on it..

Okay, fixed it, is Brad Pitt appearing in it?

408 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:40:41am

If there's going to be Pride and Prejudice with Zombies. Why not John Updike's famed Rabbit Angstrom tetralogy with zombies?

409 Kragar  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:40:54am

re: #402 b_sharp

Zombies are eternal.
Vampires are ephemeral.
Lycanthropes are chimeral.

Politicians are ...

Why would Vampires be ephemeral?

410 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:42:38am

re: #409 Kragar

Why would Vampires be ephemeral?

Because!

411 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 11:46:41am

re: #402 b_sharp

Zombies are eternal.
Vampires are ephemeral.
Lycanthropes are chimeral.

Politicians are ...

expendable of course.

412 b_sharp  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 12:02:59pm

re: #411 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste

expendable of course.

Decoys.

413 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 12:17:07pm

re: #380 lawhawk

Just to be safe, it's time to review the rules.

Double tap.
Cardio.
Bounty - the quicker picker upper.
When to (not) be a hero.
Enjoy the little things.
etc.

I'd add:
Ammo.
Gasoline.
Know your food availability...

Don't forget to check the back seat.

414 foobear2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 12:59:50pm

Just watched "STEADYo" -- very cool!

Makes me miss Tom Smothers' Yo-Yo Man.

415 foobear2  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 1:04:14pm

re: #377 NJDhockeyfan

No offense to the CDC, but I'm gonna have to stick with the bloggers when it comes to recognizing the zombie apocalypse -- anyone read Mira Grant's "Feed"?

Rise up while you can!

416 abolitionist  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 2:04:56pm

re: #286 RogueOne

More Breaking Local News!

1,000 pounds of pot worth $1M seized south of Lafayette
[Link: www.indystar.com...]

The police always say they smell weed even when it's non-existent, how could they not have smelled 1000lbs?

[Link: cmsimg.indystar.com...]

Maybe they had recently completed disposition of some recently acquired contraband?


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