Ohio Gov. Kasich Sneaks Radical Anti-Abortion Measures Into State Budget

The GOPs unrelenting war on women’s rights gets even uglier
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Steve Benen runs down the list of unbelievably regressive anti-abortion measures added to the state budget of Ohio with no debate, and signed into law by Gov. Kasich with an audience of old white men: Ohio’s Kasich Approves Sweeping Restrictions on Reproductive Rights.

  • Rape crisis centers will operate under a state-imposed gag order -- rape-crisis counselors will face new restrictions when telling impregnated rape victims that they can legally terminate their pregnancy.
  • The budget effectively defunds Planned Parenthood clinics in the state.
  • There's a provision to require women seeking legal abortions to undergo a state-mandated, medically-unnecessary ultrasound -- even if women don't want one, and if their doctor doesn't recommend one. Ohio Republicans proudly declared they want to put themselves between patients and their physicians, prescribing specific procedures for no medical reason.
  • Women will also be required to pay for state-mandated, medically-unnecessary ultrasounds they do not want and their doctors do not think they need.
  • Physicians will be legally required to deliver a Republican-written speech to women seeking legal abortions. Whether the doctor believes what's in the script, or even wants to say those words to his or her patient, has been deemed irrelevant.
  • Clinics that provide abortion services will be required to have transfer agreements with local hospitals, and then bans public hospitals from establishing those agreements, all in the hopes of shutting the clinics down.
  • And Republican policymakers in the state decided to redefine the words "pregnancy" and "fetus" in state law -- the budget decides that a woman is pregnant even before a fertilized egg is implanted in the uterine lining. The effect of this policy may prevent a woman from using an IUD in the state of Ohio.

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1 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:14:59am

We are on our way to a Supreme Court decision … .

2 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:15:21am

Shorter GOP:

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3 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:15:36am

Fuck you Ohio.

4 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:15:42am
5 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:16:20am

Reposting from downstairs:

Several links to livestreams of Texas rallies

6 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:16:33am
And Republican policymakers in the state decided to redefine the words “pregnancy” and “fetus” in state law — the budget decides that a woman is pregnant even before a fertilized egg is implanted in the uterine lining. The effect of this policy may prevent a woman from using an IUD in the state of Ohio.

Also: may cause a woman to die from an ectopic pregnancy.

7 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:17:13am

Charles, typo in subhead.

8 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:17:50am
And Republican policymakers in the state decided to redefine the words “pregnancy” and “fetus” in state law — the budget decides that a woman is pregnant even before a fertilized egg is implanted in the uterine lining. The effect of this policy may prevent a woman from using an IUD in the state of Ohio.

Time to mail in all those used feminine hygiene products, to be sure.

Better stock up on crime scene tape.

9 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:18:02am

remember, this is not about women’s health or rights to anything, it is about imposing their narrow-minded religious views of women and reproductive rights on the rest of us

10 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:18:32am

So is a woman who drives into Ohio wearing an IUD committing a crime now? I think so.

What cockamamie bullshit. This is evil clownshoes.

11 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:18:50am

re: #9 Sol Berdinowitz

remember, this is not about women’s health or rights to anything, it is about imposing their narrow-minded religious views of women and reproductive rights on the rest of us

What’s the difference?

12 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:18:58am

re: #7 jaunte

Charles, typo in subhead.

Well, Americans do need to a warning about what the GOP is doing (and plans to keep on doing) to take away women’s rights :/

13 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:18:58am
Clinics that provide abortion services will be required to have transfer agreements with local hospitals, and then bans public hospitals from establishing those agreements

What bullshit.

14 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:19:15am

re: #10 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

So is a woman who drives into Ohio wearing an IUD committing a crime now? I think so.

What cockamamie bullshit. This is evil clownshoes.

Evil clownshoes is par for the GOP course nowadays.

15 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:19:32am

The anti-abortion regulations are plenty bad, but this legislation also slashes and burns contraceptive coverage and womens’ health funding as well.

It makes it harder to terminate pregnancies, but it also makes it harder to prevent.

Ohio’s GOP is screwing women both ways.

16 GunstarGreen  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:20:03am

In a just world, men would be prohibited from authoring or having a say in policy regarding women’s bodies.

17 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:20:54am
18 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:21:13am
19 Dave In Austin  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:21:44am

It’s on in TX…..
#swtw

Feed Here

20 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:21:44am

re: #16 GunstarGreen

In a just world, men would be prohibited from authoring or having a say in policy regarding women’s bodies.

In a just world, men could get pregnant. That would make all forms of comprehensive sex ed mandatory, and birth control would be cheap and readily available, like the bowl of beer nuts at a bar.

21 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:21:45am
22 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:21:51am

There needs to be an organization which gets women out of these states and to the care they need when they need it.

23 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:22:08am

Ben Shapiro is Derping up a storm

24 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:22:17am
25 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:23:13am
26 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:23:52am

i predict this abortion aggression will be as effective in keeping republicans in power as the increased voting requirements were in denying obama a second term

27 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:23:57am

re: #25 Lidane

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Taksim, Texas.

28 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:24:19am

re: #22 Kragar

There needs to be an organization which gets women out of these states and to the care they need when they need it.

Like that one that rich people have.

29 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:25:02am

re: #28 jaunte

Like that one that rich people have.

Pretty much.

30 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:25:12am

PROJECTION DERP

31 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:25:27am

re: #23 Vicious Babushka

Ask the sniveling idiot if he favors mandatory organ and blood donation, then.

32 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:25:35am

re: #23 Vicious Babushka

LIFE!!!!!!!

//

33 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:26:08am

This is about stepping on the poor.

34 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:26:20am

re: #30 Vicious Babushka

Tea Party only cares about Economy and Jobs and Less Taxes and Too Much Government Spending.. ////

35 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:26:34am

re: #30 Vicious Babushka

PROJECTION DERP

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OFFS

36 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:26:52am
37 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:27:33am

re: #23 Vicious Babushka

Supporting abortion is not supporting a woman’s right to control her body.

Ben haz all the wisdumb. //

38 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:28:14am

Ben is getting his memes mixed up.
ABORSHUN=TEH HOLOCAUST
INCOME TAXES=TEH SLAVERY
TEH GHEY=TEH HOLOCAUST AND TEH SLAVERY ALL IN ONE!!11!!

39 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:28:34am

RWNJ Cognitive dissonance:

Liberals are engaging in genocide against minorities.

Liberals can only win elections with the minority vote.

So which one is it, because simple logic says they wouldn’t be engaging in both?

40 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:29:08am

re: #31 Interesting Times

Government coercision!!!!!

Also, too: I discovered my assistant had still not set my Twitters account to follow Interesting Times, but that has now been corrected.

41 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:29:49am

re: #39 Kragar

Yes

//

42 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:30:58am
43 GunstarGreen  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:31:31am

re: #39 Kragar

RWNJ Cognitive dissonance:

Liberals are engaging in genocide against minorities.

Liberals can only win elections with the minority vote.

So which one is it, because simple logic says they wouldn’t be engaging in both?

There’s no logic involved. “TEH DEMZ R JENOSIDING TEH MINEOHRITEES” is a desperate attempt to convince minority voters that the democrats don’t care about them, employed by desperate republicans that know their brand is dying but don’t want to actually do anything to fix that.

44 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:32:09am
45 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:32:16am
46 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:32:22am

Another RWNJ meme:

“We could have cured XXX, invented YYY or solved ZZZ by now but the person was aborted”

or we could have prevented the next serial killer, dictator, or terrorist mastermind.

This particular argument is in fact a zero sum and has no place in the abortion debate.

47 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:32:56am

This seems rational:

48 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:33:09am

These GOPers are replacing biological and scientifically backed definitions for ones that are purely political in origin (from OH Rev. Stat § 2919.19 as amended) :

“Fetus” means the human offspring developing during pregnancy from the moment of conception and includes the embryonic stage of development.

Combine that with this definition:

“Unborn human individual” means an individual organism of the species homo sapiens from fertilization until live birth.

They tried to provide that these definitions apply only to abortions, but it may well affect how IVF is provided in the state.

49 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:33:19am
50 kirkspencer  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:34:23am

re: #48 lawhawk

These GOPers are replacing biological and scientifically backed definitions for ones that are purely political in origin (from OH Rev. Stat § 2919.19 as amended) :

Combine that with this definition:

They tried to provide that these definitions apply only to abortions, but it may well affect how IVF is provided in the state.

yep. Every fertility clinic that does IVF should take a good hard look at the law.

51 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:35:59am

And just so folks understand the mendacity of the GOP here, the Ohio budget bill runs a couple thousand pages long (3,264 to be precise), and they buried the changes in amendments that are carried separately.

52 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:36:02am

So in Ohio, if a woman smokes or drinks alcohol while pregnant (whether she knows she’s pregnant at the time or not) is she now guilty of contributing to the delinquency of a minor? If a man has sex with his pregnant wife, is that now pedophilia because the unborn human was involved in the act?

53 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:37:21am

The GOP is a plague on humanity.

54 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:37:37am

re: #52 Kragar

… If a man has sex with his pregnant wife, is that now pedophilia because the unborn human was involved in the act?

Naw…dad is just getting a jump start on teaching junior how to fap…

//

55 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:37:47am

re: #46 Kragar

Another RWNJ meme:

“We could have cured XXX, invented YYY or solved ZZZ by now but the person was aborted wasn’t able to get a decent education and make that contribution.”

FIFY

56 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:38:41am

re: #50 kirkspencer

The amendments state that they apply only to Ohio Rev. Stat §§ 2919.191
to 2919.193, but will necessarily affect how IVF facilities handle embryos and their disposition if their owners seek their disposal pre-implantation, or if they don’t take.

The ethical quandaries are multiple, and only make a tough situation even more difficult for those seeking IVF. It is likely to stifle research and development of techniques in OH research facilities.

57 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:40:11am

re: #45 Charles Johnson

They’re really thrashing around now.

58 efuseakay  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:40:37am

War on Women? Oh look, a BENGHAZI!!!

59 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:41:46am
60 piratedan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:43:47am

well since we’re getting down to making laws on who gets to decide who gets to do what with their bodies, if women are being told that they have to give birth whenever they get pregnant, can we create a panel of older, sager women, who decide when a man is ready to be able to procreate with a woman…that way we can keep any potential humans from being harmed…. I’m sure that the guys will get on board, after all, this is all about the kids…..

61 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:44:08am
62 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:44:10am

“…In general, attacking women’s health choices costs taxpayers. Family planning programs save the federal government $3.74 for every dollar spent by providing women with access to contraception and avoiding unplanned births. Providing women who seek an abortion with the services they need doesn’t just avert government spending on unwanted births. A recent study found that women who were unable to obtain an abortion were three times more likely to fall into poverty in the subsequent two years than those who succeeded. That likely means more women who need to access federal programs.”

63 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:44:12am

re: #59 Interesting Times

64 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:44:38am

re: #59 Interesting Times

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Everything is free in Texas, except for…

65 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:45:37am

re: #63 Lidane

Or did they just turn it on again to avoid more bad publicity? #hmmm

66 kirkspencer  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:45:48am

re: #56 lawhawk

The amendments state that they apply only to Ohio Rev. Stat §§ 2919.191
to 2919.193, but will necessarily affect how IVF facilities handle embryos and their disposition if their owners seek their disposal pre-implantation, or if they don’t take.

The ethical quandaries are multiple, and only make a tough situation even more difficult for those seeking IVF. It is likely to stifle research and development of techniques in OH research facilities.

selective application is, as you know, tricky. If a definition only applies for “that” procedure then it’s really important to demonstrate the reasoning and purpose. Unfortunately for Ohio the supporting bloviation and breadth of the definition muddy that demonstration. “It’s a baby at conception” is likely too broad to say “only for abortion, not for IVF disposal.”

67 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:46:18am
68 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:46:31am

The Guardian’s got Barrett Brown writing for them again…

The cyber-intelligence complex and its useful idiots
Barrett Brown

69 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:46:46am

re: #63 Lidane

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I could imagine it getting overloaded pretty easily today.

70 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:46:57am

re: #25 Lidane

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See all that orange? That’s Texas turning blue.

71 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:47:13am

DERP
But the same “reasonable health and safety standards” don’t apply to industry

72 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:47:25am

There are some folks in Texas demonstrating in support of the abortion law including this woman:

Castro, who has had three abortions in the past, said it was important for her to be here to represent unborn children and let women know of the pain it leaves women with.

“When I had my abortions, I didn’t realize how I would feel after,” Castro said. “No one told me. We want people to be fully informed.”

You’d certainly think that after the second time she would have realized how she felt, but apparently the third time was the charm here.

73 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:48:02am
74 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:48:26am

PRO-LIFE!

75 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:48:53am

re: #67 Lidane

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Well, given how Barton, Fischer and their ilk love the pink swastika bullshit, I’m guessing they also worry about our military becoming more brutal.

“We support our Christian White Male troops!”

76 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:49:10am
77 SidewaysQuark  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:49:27am

re: #9 Sol Berdinowitz

remember, this is not about women’s health or rights to anything, it is about imposing their narrow-minded religious views of women and reproductive rights on the rest of us

No, it’s worse than that - it’s about “slut-shaming” and ensuring that women can remain under absolutist control of their male patriarchs. It’s thoroughly disgusting on every level. Talibornagain is indeed a proper moniker for these sorry excuses for humans.

78 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:49:28am

re: #73 jaunte

cute!

79 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:49:31am

re: #67 Lidane

Wouldn’t it be easier to just move to a state where it’s legal?

80 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:49:58am
81 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:51:43am
82 Weet  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:51:49am
83 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:52:28am

Putin: Edward Snowden Can Stay in Russia on One ‘Strange’ Condition

Russian President Vladimir Putin said today that Edward Snowden, the alleged leaker of NSA surveillance secrets, can stay in Russia as long as he stops harming American interests.

“If he wants to stay here, there is one condition: he has to stop his work aimed at damaging our U.S. partners, no matter how strange this sounds coming from me,” Putin told reporters.

But Putin also qualified his comments, saying that it appears the NSA leaker has no plans to stop his work and therefore should pick a final destination soon.

84 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:53:33am

Unions, women, the poor, holy shit republicans never had it so good.

85 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:53:51am

Posted by a friend of mine at the rally downtown:

Image: bullets.jpg

86 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:55:34am

re: #83 Kragar

Patriot. /

87 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:55:45am
88 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:56:53am

Hit Miniseries ‘The Bible’ To Have Sequel On NBC

NBC announced that it’s purchased the rights to “A.D.: Beyond the Bible,” the follow-up to the History Channel hit that premiered in March. Like the original, the sequel will be supervised by Mark Burnett, the producer behind reality shows like “Survivor” and “The Voice.” According to the Times, “Beyond the Bible” will “center on the work of the apostles and early Christians in trying to survive Roman oppression in the years after the crucifixion.”

A show about persecuted Christians? Some one knows a ratings grabber for sure.

89 Weet  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:57:52am
90 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:57:53am

re: #88 Kragar

Hit Miniseries ‘The Bible’ To Have Sequel On NBC

91 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 11:58:50am

Bible 2: Electric boogaloo

92 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:00:48pm

Muslims will tell you that the Koran is the successor and follow-up to the Bible, just as Christians say that the NT is the follow-up to the AT…

93 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:01:38pm

DERP

94 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:02:16pm

Dark Money Group Spent On House Race, Then Told IRS It Didn’t

Shortly before Election Day last year, mailers went out to Texas voters featuring pictures of a Democratic congressional candidate and a rare species of spider, whose discovery had forced stoppage of an important highway construction project.

“The same left-wing extremists who support Pete Gallego want more burdensome regulations that put the interests of spiders above our need to create more jobs,” the flier declared, referring to discovery of the endangered Braken Bat Cave meshweaver. “The best way to stop left-wing extremists from killing jobs is to vote against their hand-picked candidate Pete Gallego.”

The group that put out the mailer, A Better America Now, reported to the Federal Election Commission it had spent about $65,000 for the mailer and TV advertising in the hard-fought race to represent Texas’ 23rd district.

But in a tax return recently filed with the IRS, the group claimed it did not spend any money at all on “direct or indirect political campaign activities.”

95 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:02:18pm

DERP

96 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:03:24pm

re: #88 Kragar

Hey we’re the real victims here!!

97 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:04:39pm

re: #95 Vicious Babushka

MURDERED!!!!!

But this bill is just about women’s health….

98 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:06:46pm

re: #95 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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Texas, a state where a man shot a woman and killed a woman for not having sex with him and walked away scot free.

99 kirkspencer  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:07:06pm

re: #95 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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Hey Dana, my dad needs new kidneys. How hard will you fight a bill that forces you to donate one of yours?

100 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:07:26pm

re: #94 Kragar

Dark Money Group Spent On House Race, Then Told IRS It Didn’t

You mean the IRS did not harass them out of existence?

101 BongCrodny  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:07:59pm

re: #70 Decatur Deb

See all that orange? That’s Texas turning blue.

It’s not just that Republicans are creating a shitload of new Democrats here.

They’re creating a shitload of Democratic activists.

Good luck getting that genie back in the bottle, Texas Republicans!

102 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:08:18pm


For context, my office is at 6th & Congress.

If those streets ARE blocked (I can’t tell from my window) then it’s not slowing down any of the traffic outside.

103 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:08:54pm

re: #93 Vicious Babushka

Another adoptive parent heard from.///

104 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:08:55pm

re: #101 BongCrodny

It’s not just that Republicans are creating a shitload of new Democrats here.

They’re creating a shitload of Democratic activists.

Good luck getting that genie back in the bottle, Texas Republicans!

That is becoming a nationwide trend. Todd Aikin probably did more to get out the vote for Obama than anything any Democrat did.

105 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:09:00pm

The sex of a fetus can not usually be spotted by an ultrasound until at least the 20th week.

106 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:09:05pm

If there was a caption contest for this photo, I declare the WINNAR:

107 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:10:05pm

re: #105 Vicious Babushka

The sex of a fetus can not usually be spotted by an ultrasound until at least the 20th week.

You LIEZ!! We haz studee that PROOFS U can tell at Consepchion!!!11!!

108 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:10:38pm

re: #106 Interesting Times

If there was a caption contest for this photo, I declare the WINNAR:

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A large mouthed bass with a big mouthed ass.

109 Ming  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:10:49pm

In regard to tourism and business trips, any woman would be well-advised to avoid the State of Ohio, if she’s pregnant or thinks she might be pregnant. You never know when the need for medical care may arise.

Doctors should also think twice about a medical career in Ohio. It’s supremely insulting for the government to force a physician to make medical statements that the physician doesn’t believe are true.

110 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:11:45pm

re: #105 Vicious Babushka

The sex of a fetus can not usually be spotted by an ultrasound until at least the 20th week.

I think you can tell earlier by amniocentesis.

111 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:12:04pm

Here’s a troubled heart:

112 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:12:17pm

re: #93 Vicious Babushka

If the relationship wasn’t parasitic*, fetuses wouldn’t need to be in there and attached to Mom, now would they?

*I know there is debate about whether parasitism requires different species, but let’s face it, the fetus rarely heads out for a burger and fries and so is taking everything it needs from the mother with no direct benefit to her.

113 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:13:00pm

re: #110 Kragar

I think you can tell earlier by amniocentesis.

I didn’t say amniocentesis.

Whatever, it is doubtful that abortions for sex selection are being performed in this country.

114 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:14:04pm

THE NEVER ENDING DERP MACHINE

115 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:14:29pm

re: #113 Vicious Babushka

I didn’t say amniocentesis.

Whatever, it is doubtful that abortions for sex selection are being performed in this country.

Its doubtful 99.99% of the things which the GOP claim ever happened.

116 allegro  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:15:32pm

re: #113 Vicious Babushka

I didn’t say amniocentesis.

Whatever, it is doubtful that abortions for sex selection are being performed in this country.

There would be no statistical data regardless. Aborted fetuses are not DNA examined - the only way to determine sex during the time most abortions are done. Dana is just lying outa her ass again.

117 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:15:44pm

re: #114 Vicious Babushka

THE NEVER ENDING DERP MACHINE

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“YOU DEMAND I PAY FOR THAT NUCLEAR SUBMARINE, STEALTH FIGHTER, AND TANK? GUESS WHAT, THEY’RE MINE!”

118 kirkspencer  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:15:59pm

re: #114 Vicious Babushka

THE NEVER ENDING DERP MACHINE

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By the same reasoning, if your employer is paying part of your insurance he can see your medical records. Do you really want to go there?

119 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:16:24pm
120 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:16:44pm

re: #111 Vicious Babushka

Here’s a troubled heart:

If you’re born a white male you’re automatically a racist. So go with it. Be proud!

According to Stand your Ground, and Stop and Search laws, if you are born a black male, you are automatically a criminal, and according to SB 1070, if you are born Latino and male, you are already suspect of being an illegal immigrant, and if you are female and pregnant and unmarried you are already a slut….

So go with it!!!

121 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:16:55pm

re: #118 kirkspencer

By the same reasoning, if your employer is paying part of your insurance he can see your medical records. Do you really want to go there?

Your paycheck comes from your employer, so they should be entitled to know what you’re spending it on.
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122 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:17:01pm

Hey a ‘dirty hippie’ joke from 1968! Hurrr.

123 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:17:06pm

re: #118 kirkspencer

By the same reasoning, if your employer is paying part of your insurance he can see your medical records. Do you really want to go there?

Maybe she does…

124 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:17:25pm
125 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:18:00pm

re: #122 jaunte

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Hey a ‘dirty hippie’ joke from 1968! Hurrr.

He’s so witty.
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126 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:19:00pm

re: #125 Kragar

Rip Van Reagan, just waking up.

127 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:19:13pm

re: #125 Kragar

He’s so witty.
/

Hey 1968 called, they want their “dirty hippie” meme back!

128 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:20:29pm

Signsplainin’
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129 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:20:53pm

OK. I need to go get a few things from CVS. I’ll check and see about the road closures myself.

BRB in a bit.

130 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:20:58pm

re: #122 jaunte

PAID!!!!!

Probably Communist super-secret undercover agents. //

131 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:21:16pm

re: #124 Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson — Alec Baldwin Spokesman

132 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:22:19pm

re: #131 Gus

Alec deBaldwinflection.

133 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:22:54pm
Turns out to be a bar of soap, something the paid slackers at the rally had never seen before.
#standwithtxwomen
— Reagan Conservative (@nogirlemen)
July 1, 2013

Translation: we couldn’t find any “prolife” womenz counter-protesters to send to the rally.

134 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:23:01pm

DERP
Who remembers Obama saying this?

135 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:23:06pm
136 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:23:10pm

re: #39 Kragar

RWNJ Cognitive dissonance:

Liberals are engaging in genocide against minorities.

Liberals can only win elections with the minority vote.

So which one is it, because simple logic says they wouldn’t be engaging in both?

If simple logic were involved, you wouldn’t see people claiming that the DOMA decision is the first step on the road to Sharia.

137 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:23:30pm

re: #134 Vicious Babushka

A Troubled Heart does

138 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:23:44pm

re: #114 Vicious Babushka

THE NEVER ENDING DERP MACHINE

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Dana…just when did St. Louis move to Texas?

139 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:23:44pm

Reagan Conservative?

You mean an “idealized version of what the modern GOP thinks Reagan stood for” Conservative…

140 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:23:51pm

re: #131 Gus

Charles Johnson — Alec Baldwin Spokesman

You Are Worthless Alec Baldwin!

Youtube Video

141 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:23:56pm

re: #135 Charles Johnson

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BECAUSE AREC BARWIN SHUT UP THAT’S WHY

142 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:25:43pm

re: #135 Charles Johnson

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Ask him to denounce Paula Deen!

144 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:27:06pm

re: #131 Gus

Charles Johnson — Alec Baldwin Spokesman

This is how these people “argue.”

145 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:28:41pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

This is how these people “argue.”

“You misidentified a hat, rendering your whole argument null and void! Plus, POOPY HEAD!”

146 stabby  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:28:52pm

re: #83 Kragar

“If he wants to stay here, there is one condition: he has to stop his work aimed at damaging our U.S. partners, no matter how strange this sounds coming from me,” Putin told reporters.

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147 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:29:19pm

re: #134 Vicious Babushka

DERP
Who remembers Obama saying this?

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I remember the Republicans promising that they’d fight him every step of the way. And they’ve made good on their promise! Yay Republicans!

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148 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:29:44pm

re: #146 stabby

*.*
[blink]

This implies that Putin, or one of his writers, has a wicked sense of humor.

149 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:30:00pm
150 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:30:50pm

re: #148 Feline Fearless Leader

re: #146 stabby

AKA: We’ve got the information, but we don’t want anyone else to know exactly what we’ve got.

151 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:32:09pm

re: #145 Kragar

“You misidentified a hat, rendering your whole argument null and void! Plus, POOPY HEAD!”

LIBTARD!

152 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:32:43pm
153 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:32:53pm

Dewhurst just recessed the Senate until 11 a.m. Tuesday, July 9.

154 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:33:51pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dewhurst just recessed the Senate until 11 a.m. Tuesday, July 9.

PUNTS!

155 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:34:36pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dewhurst just recessed the Senate until 11 a.m. Tuesday, July 9.

Is there anyway they can reconvene all sneaky-like?

156 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:35:10pm

re: #154 Kragar

PUNTS!

I call SHENANIGANS!!!

157 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:35:14pm

re: #151 Gus

LIBTARD!

You have a ponytail.

Argument invalidated.

FACT.

158 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:35:14pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

Without taking action on the bill?

159 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:35:32pm

re: #155 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Is there anyway they can reconvene all sneaky-like?

“Psst, everyone meet back here at 3am. Don’t tell the Democrats. Pass it on.”

160 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:35:51pm

re: #158 calochortus

Without taking action on the bill?

yeppers…

161 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:36:00pm
162 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:36:08pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

I call SHENANIGANS!!!

I’m going to pistol whip the next bastard who says Shenanigans!

163 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:36:56pm

re: #159 Kragar

“Psst, everyone meet back here at 3am. Don’t tell the Democrats. Pass it on.”

True leadership means avoiding the electorate!

164 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:37:07pm

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeppers…

Maybe they figure everyone will give up after a nice weekend?

165 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:37:26pm

re: #162 Kragar

I’m going to pistol whip the next bastard who says Shenanigans!

What’s the name of that Irish-themed restaurant you like?

166 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:37:38pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dewhurst just recessed the Senate until 11 a.m. Tuesday, July 9.

Not seeing this on Twitter yet.

167 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:37:55pm

re: #164 calochortus

Maybe they figure everyone will give up after a nice weekend?

I’m guessing they want to try and wear the protestors down while they get more obstructions in place.

168 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:38:26pm

Reminder: The Texas Constitution limits the duration of each special session to 30 days. And Gov. Nucking Futs can call as many of these special sessions as he wants, and on the topics he chooses. The Legislature can’t add to that list, but the governor can add even once the session is underway.

As before, this is about enacting TRAP laws in Texas - and it’s cover story of being about womens’ health falls short once you peer into the details. SB5 would have reduced womens’ health care access.

But as I’ve never grown tired of noting, if Texas wants to do something about improving the health and welfare of its citizens, it would move to overhaul its building codes to mandate sprinkler systems for industrial facilities, require regular inspections to check for code violations, etc.

169 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:38:44pm

OK seeing it now.

170 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:39:14pm
171 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:41:07pm

I wonder what they’ll invent between now and the 9th to keep protestors away from the Capitol.

172 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:41:47pm

re: #170 jaunte

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Scared bullying bastard says what?

173 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:42:51pm

re: #171 jaunte

I wonder what they’ll invent between now and the 9th to keep protestors away from the Capitol.

“We’ve introduced new regulations regarding how many people are allowed in the Capitol at any given time in the name of health and safety.”

174 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:43:09pm
175 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:43:56pm

re: #171 jaunte

I wonder what they’ll invent between now and the 9th to keep protestors away from the Capitol.

Limit protests to a “free speech zone” in a field outside Lubbock

176 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:44:37pm
177 stabby  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:44:55pm

I just hurt my brain…

Fox News host Jon Scott looped the opposition to marriage equality into the fight against gun violence, claiming that conservatives are lined up in front of the Supreme Court “trying to defend traditional marriage” in part because gun violence is exacerbated by the institution’s decline.

On the March 27 edition of Happening Now, Scott hosted Fox News contributor Juan Williams to discuss the nexus between race, gun violence, and the family unit. Scott then tied the discussion to the debate over the Defense Of Marriage Act, saying that a rise in gun and gang violence and drug use was “why so many hundreds of conservatives are lined up outside the Supreme Court right now trying to defend traditional marriage, because they say marriage is an important building block to the society.”

arrrghh, notice the mention of “race” in there.

So Fox news believes that GAYS make black women have children out of wedlock which causes gang violence. Therefore GAYS MUCH NOT MARRY BECAUSE BLACK GANGS ARE THEIR FAULT.

178 stabby  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:45:33pm

I should have used the wingnut font.

179 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:46:29pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

TxSen recesses until Tues, July 9. Sens say abortion bill hearing may not happen until next week. #txlege @statesman

(bolding mine)

So he’s saying it might happen while the senate is in recess?

180 stabby  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:46:59pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

Yeah, he’s objective alright. Is that really called a documentary. “Promotion” “whitewash” “public relations” sound like better choices

181 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:48:34pm

re: #179 calochortus

(bolding mine)

So he’s saying it might happen while the senate is in recess?

Does Perry have any powers to enact laws while Senate is in recess?

182 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:48:44pm

Odd that the people pushing these Taliban-style social measures are the same ones who see Sharia law as an imminent threat. I guess they don’t want the competition.

183 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:49:04pm

And Texas House just adjourned until 10 a.m. Tuesday, July 9.

184 geoffm33  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:49:05pm

re: #173 Kragar

“We’ve introduced new regulations regarding how many people the sex and political orientation of persons allowed in the Capitol at any given time in the name of health and safety.”

185 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:50:12pm

re: #182 Shiplord Kirel

Odd that the people pushing these Taliban-style social measures are the same ones who see Sharia law as an imminent threat. I guess they don’t want the competition.

Do not try to apply this sort of logic to their thinking. They know what the Truth is, it is in (their own narrow-minded, bigoted interpretation of) the Holy Bible.

There they will find every sort of justification for their policies, and see no trouble selecting, bending and/or ignoring facts to fit the Higher Truth of their Revealed God.

186 jaunte  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:52:14pm

At the Texas Capitol, even the horses had riot armor
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187 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:52:44pm
188 calochortus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:52:48pm

re: #181 Kragar

Does Perry have any powers to enact laws while Senate is in recess?

I don’t think so. Otherwise he just would have gone ahead and declared this law already. The senate needs to pass it, and this certainly sounds like something is up…

189 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:53:34pm

I wonder if Showden is getting any cash for this?

190 stabby  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:53:50pm

re: #185 Sol Berdinowitz

Deep down, they know how unreasonable this kind of thinking which is why they’re so scared of Sharia. They won’t admit what they’re guilty of, but they’re aware of it, aware enough to project it on others.

191 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:54:50pm

The RWNJs are not entirely ignorant though. Take their seemingly insane fear of being targeted by Obammunist drones, for example. They’ve noticed that the usual targets are men who enslave women, mock science, drive SUVs, and believe in arming themselves to the teeth. No wonder they think they’re next.

192 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:55:11pm

re: #189 NJDhockeyfan

I wonder if Showden is getting any cash for this?

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193 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:55:33pm
194 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:58:30pm

Ahahahaha:

195 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:58:58pm

re: #193 Gus

It’s GOHMERT! time again.

196 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 12:59:38pm
197 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:00:04pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

So this super special session needed to be called because of EMERGENCY CRISIS to deal with this one issue of managing lady’s parts and now they’re putting it off till next week?

198 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:03:03pm
199 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:03:33pm

re: #189 NJDhockeyfan

I wonder if Showden is getting any cash for this?

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He’d be better employed in an ad for Depends. “Prevent embarrassing leaks.”

200 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:07:05pm
201 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:07:30pm

re: #194 Lidane

Tyranny=hearing views different from ones you were homeschooled to accept unconditionally.

202 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:07:52pm

re: #190 stabby

Deep down, they know how unreasonable this kind of thinking which is why they’re so scared of Sharia. They won’t admit what they’re guilty of, but they’re aware of it, aware enough to project it on others.

No, they believe they have a monopoly on God’s Revealed Truth, and there is no reasoning with these people, all we can do is to try and contain the damage they do.

203 efuseakay  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:09:20pm

Does this also mean men are banned from masturbating?

204 Weet  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:09:52pm
205 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:10:03pm

re: #202 Sol Berdinowitz

No, they believe they have a monopoly on God’s Revealed Truth, and there is no reasoning with these people, all we can do is to try and contain the damage they do.

THIS.

These are not rational people. They are not intellectuals. They are not reasonable. They are religious fanatics who would turn the clock back to a mythical time that NEVER EXISTED where women were barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen and never spoke up at all.

206 geoffm33  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:10:12pm

re: #203 efuseakay

Does this also mean men are banned from masturbating?

Wait!

This is only in Ohio right?

207 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:10:37pm

re: #203 efuseakay

Does this also mean men are banned from masturbating?

You are applying logic again. This is all about controlling women, shaming them and keeping them barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen.

That somehow creates jobs, I am told…

208 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:10:57pm

bbl

209 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:12:47pm

re: #204 Weet

Freedom!

Why the rush? We haven’t even had a chance to READ this bill yet? Trying to ram this bill down our throats. Oh, this isn’t Obamacare? Oh, in that case, everything’s fine, please proceed.

210 efuseakay  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:13:00pm

re: #170 jaunte

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Too many people watching today. They will try next week after the holiday when everyone is back at work to sneak their shit through.

211 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:15:04pm

re: #203 efuseakay

Does this also mean men are banned from masturbating?

Not from my cold dead…wait, bad choice of words.

//

212 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:15:36pm
213 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:15:47pm

Funny how they don’t think Sheriff Joe, or Orly Taitz, or Teh TGDN and Teh LNYHBT should be sued for publishing (what they thought was) Obama’s SSN.

214 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:16:31pm

re: #211 Targetpractice

Not from my cold dead…wait, bad choice of words.

//

They call that one “The Stranger.”

Don’t ask me how I know these things.

215 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:17:16pm

re: #213 Vicious Babushka

New wingnut folk hero, George Zimmerman. //

216 geoffm33  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:18:48pm

re: #212 Lidane

10 minutes to complete 30 questions? wtf!

217 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:19:23pm

re: #216 geoffm33

10 minutes to complete 30 questions? wtf!

Yep. And check out the questions.

218 efuseakay  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:19:35pm

re: #211 Targetpractice

Not from my cold dead…wait, bad choice of words.

//

It doesn’t have to be cold or dead. Just asleep. Lay on it for 10 minutes. :)

219 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:21:55pm

re: #212 Lidane

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I saw a copy of that test in Slate…did not read the article too closely, but I assume that once you failed the test, no repeat was allowed…

220 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:24:23pm

re: #219 Sol Berdinowitz

And some of the questions were so poorly worded that the test administrator could decide that you got the question wrong, no appeals, even if no one could get the question right or there were potentially multiple answers (that was the whole point after all).

221 efuseakay  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:24:27pm

I guess it’s safe to say every anti-choicer has only ever ever ever ever had sex to pro-create. EVER!

//

222 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:24:54pm

re: #219 Sol Berdinowitz

I saw a copy of that test in Slate…did not read the article too closely, but I assume that once you failed the test, no repeat was allowed…

If you missed even one question…you failed.

223 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:25:24pm

Racist Anti-semite accuses liberals of being racist anti-semites

Gun Owners of America’s Larry Pratt was forced out of Pat Buchanan’s — yes, Pat Buchanan’s —1996 presidential campaign when it was discovered that he had delivered an address to a group of neo-Nazis, associated with an Aryan Nation official and served as an editor of an anti-Semitic publication. Earlier this year, he enthusiastically agreed with a radio host who suggested that President Obama is planning to incite a race war pitting “Christian, heterosexual white haves” against “black, Muslim and/or atheist have-nots.” He is one of the most prominent national proponents of the “nullification” movement, which was inspired by pre-Civil War southern politicians who tried to buck the federal government to shore up the institution of slavery. And he is scheduled to spend this Fourth of July weekend at an event hosted by a rock group that calls the Holocaust a “scam” and alleges that Israel was behind the 9/11 attacks.

So, it was interesting to listen to Pratt, discussing the George Zimmerman trial on VCY America’s Crosstalk radio last week, pull out his David Barton talking points to claim that the media, Democrats and the left are racist and anti-Semitic.

224 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:26:06pm

re: #215 Bulworth

New wingnut folk hero, George Zimmerman. //

HEEZ NOT WHITE!!11!!

If Zimmerman wanted to be considered a Latino, he should have stalked and shot a white dude.//

225 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:26:54pm
226 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:28:39pm

re: #224 Vicious Babushka

If Zimmerman wanted to be considered a Latino, he should have stalked and shot a white dude.//

and one of his grandparents is supposed to have been black…

so he CAN’T be rascist!!11!! UNPOSSIBLE!!11!!

227 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:31:37pm
228 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:33:08pm

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

And if you passed, well, you might lose your job or have a few someones show up at your house after dark with a rope.

229 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:34:04pm

Utah Gun Rights Activists Organize 5K Race — With Firearms!

In the town of Spanish Fork, Utah, gun rights activists are organizing a “Run 4 Guns” 5K race. To be held on September 21, the race invites participants to carry their firearms openly.

I can see no possible way anything could possibly go wrong.

Well, maybe if when the starting pistol goes off the runners all return fire, but other than that…

230 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:34:16pm
231 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:35:50pm

The Texas GOP will redistrict and gerrymander and restrict voting rights so that this never happens:

232 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:35:52pm
233 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:37:04pm

defiant Morsi stands firm against coup threat

The head of Egypt’s armed forces, General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, threatened direct military involvement in the political process “if the demands of the people are not realised”, in a statement implying that Morsi should either step down or at least call early elections.

The presidency indicated that it viewed the statement as a coup d’etat.

“Obviously we feel this is a military coup,” a presidential aide said. “But the conviction within the presidency is that [the coup] won’t be able to move forward without American approval.”

According to a statement on the president’s official Facebook page, Morsi met Sisi along with the prime minister late on Monday.

The aide’s comments earlier in the day implied that the presidency was hopeful of continued US support. They also suggested the presidency was banking on the likelihood that the military would not risk upsetting the US, which provides it with significant funding.

234 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:39:06pm
235 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:43:34pm

re: #234 Lidane

Also too: universal healthcare=Obamacare. We put up with a lot of crap to get that passed. But, beyond those things, “What does the left stand for??” “How come the president doesn’t lead??”

236 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:45:43pm
237 freetoken  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:45:47pm

Loesch trolling the bottom:

Conservative pundit Dana Loesch mimics MLK speech: Don’t judge us by ‘the content of our magazines’

238 freetoken  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:46:17pm

Have we reached the wingularity yet?

239 Joanne  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:47:06pm

re: #198 Gus

Democratic secretary of state to challenge McConnell in 2014 Senate race: bit.ly

Lemme guess his ads:

She is the most libural evah!”

She voted with Obama 100% of the time!!

Oh wait, she doesn’t vote.

She iz the MOST LIBURAL EVAH!

240 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:48:56pm

But regulating a woman’s uterus? A-OK.

241 Stanghazi  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:52:06pm

re: #212 Lidane

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I have never seen it before.

Such assholes.

242 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:52:31pm

re: #240 Lidane

But Texas counties don’t want repressive, freedom-extinguishing fire codes. Womenz do want ultrasounds so OK to mandate. //

243 HoosierHoops  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:53:20pm

re: #212 Lidane

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Are you fucking kidding me? That is a crazy test..And you can’t miss one answer? That pisses me off Lidane..No sense of fair play..Bastards..

244 geoffm33  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:53:48pm

re: #240 Lidane

But regulating a woman’s uterus? A-OK.

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From that article:

But 85 percent of the code-prohibited counties have no full-time professional fire department anywhere in the county, The News found. Only a few bigger industries have their own specially trained and equipped in-house fire brigades.

But I imagine that is just to be sure the equipment/structural damage stays at a minimum.

245 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:54:30pm

re: #243 HoosierHoops

Are you fucking kidding me? That is a crazy test..And you can’t miss one answer? That pisses me off Lidane..No sense of fair play..Bastards..

And we’re going to see stuff like that again now that SCOTUS gutted the Voting Rights Act.

246 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:55:36pm

Tulsa Is Using The Trail Of Tears To Market Its Bid For The 2024 Olympics

The city of Tulsa, Oklahoma is preparing to bid on the 2024 Summer Olympic games, according to a report from the New York Times. Should the city actually submit a bid, it would be a wild longshot: as the Times explains, the Olympic workforce amounts to half of the city’s population, the city has a third of the hotel rooms required by the International Olympic Committee, and the estimated cost is equivalent to half of Oklahoma’s state budget. Plus, using the Olympics to market a city, as organizers hope to do, isn’t usually a good economic idea.

But the most absurd part of Tulsa’s Olympic bid amazingly isn’t the bid itself — it’s that organizers apparently think incorporating the Trail of Tears on the Olympic torch route as a “nod to the state’s American Indian history” is a good idea:

In a nod to the state’s American Indian history, the Olympic torch would be led along the solemn Trail of Tears, not far from where field hockey would be played in Tahlequah.

247 HoosierHoops  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:56:48pm

re: #245 Lidane

And we’re going to see stuff like that again now that SCOTUS gutted the Voting Rights Act.

I don’t think so..There would be a million lawsuits with a 100% success rate.
/Crosses fingers

248 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:57:22pm

re: #246 Kragar

Tulsa Is Using The Trail Of Tears To Market Its Bid For The 2024 Olympics

OW. Mah brain hurts from that level of idiocy. WTF.

249 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:57:47pm

re: #246 Kragar

The trail formerly known as the Trail Of Tears will be rebranded as Trail Of Freedom and Liberty!

//

250 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:57:56pm

re: #247 HoosierHoops

I don’t think so..There would be a million lawsuits with a 100% success rate.
/Crosses fingers

They will find a way. There is no limit to the depths that the GOP will go to maintain power.

251 freetoken  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:59:01pm

re: #249 Bulworth

The trail formerly known as the Trail Of Tears will be rebranded as Trail Of Freedom and Liberty!

Only if the torch runner can also carry a AR-15 at the same time.

252 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 1:59:38pm
253 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:00:24pm

My kids were interested in attending a sports camp for a few days later this month. So I went to the sponsor’s website, a local church, and their weekly sermon announcement is:

“Exposure to the Son keeps you from burning.”

So, no sports camp for the kids.

254 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:01:46pm

re: #248 Lidane

OW. Mah brain hurts from that level of idiocy. WTF.

Next up, the Bataan Death March fun run!

255 Kid Hail Satan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:01:52pm

In times like these in Texas, I really miss Molly Ivins.

256 freetoken  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:03:48pm

That Slate article by Barry Friedman and Dahlia Lithwick is either extra stupid or a parody:

Progressives also once believed that religious indoctrination in the public schools and in the public square was inappropriate and indefensible. They offered a full-throated defense of the separation between church and state. At the Scopes Monkey Trial, the question of teaching creationism in the schools was definitively settled—in favor of the monkeys. Provable facts of science mattered in designing a curriculum. But then the right attacked the left’s concern for a separation of church and state as anti-God, and thus un-American. Unnerved, progressives started lining up to sing psalms of praise, hosanna to the Lord, pass the peas, and never mind the Constitution. They caved to the argument that it excludes religious minorities to refuse to let them exclude others. School choice now means that it’s OK to spend tax dollars on religious indoctrination so long as the money goes through a cleansing dip in the public coffers.

Um, no. If by “monkeys” she means evolution, the Scopes trial found evolution the loser in the court. However, in the past 40 years the courts have repeatedly rejected religious indoctrination in science classes.

No wonder I don’t bother taking my time reading Slate.

257 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:04:08pm

American Decency Association: Gays Are ‘Disgusting’

After claiming that the Supreme Court’s ruling on DOMA was comparable to the attack on Pearl Harbor, the American Decency Association put out a statement today from president Bill Johnson calling gays and lesbians “disgusting.”

“How many men would stoop to having intimacy with another man?” Johnson asks. “How disgusting. How unnatural.”

Johnson adds that homosexuality “defies natural law” and criticizes TV networks for “shoving their pro-homosexual programming down our throats.”

258 HoosierHoops  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:04:25pm

re: #246 Kragar

Tulsa Is Using The Trail Of Tears To Market Its Bid For The 2024 Olympics

You know..Oklahoma has owned the trail of tears and faced it and they speak of it often on TV. There is no brushing away history here.
I think there is something like 9 tribes here and education and growth is the story of the day. I have learned so much about Native Americans from the PSA’s on TV. Oklahoma has embraced the culture and history of Native Americans. IMHO

259 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:04:40pm

re: #252 HAL2010

The difference is one of orders of magnitude. Here in Texas we’re facing the Republican Taliban trying to deny women their rights again. The folks in Egypt are facing the shakeup of their entire government.

Also, there are no military helicopters or threats of beheadings and mass violence here in Austin. If there are still folks at the capitol now, they’re not disrupting the flow of traffic around here.

260 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:06:31pm

re: #258 HoosierHoops

You know..Oklahoma has owned the trail of tears and faced it and they speak of it often on TV. There is no brushing away history here.
I think there is something like 9 tribes here and education and growth is the story of the day. I have learned so much about Native Americans from the PSA’s on TV. Oklahoma has embraced the culture and history of Native Americans. IMHO

It still strikes me as in really poor taste, never mind the total insanity of thinking hosting the Olympics is a good deal for the host city.

261 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:06:35pm

re: #258 HoosierHoops

Thanks, good to know.

262 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:06:37pm

re: #259 Lidane

Personally, I find his comment rather hyperbolic, but he does have a point in that it certainly has rallied people in Texas. The situation in Egypt is far more dangerous for the people in the streets, obviously.

263 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:07:35pm

re: #246 Kragar

Ok, as a “nod to the state’s native American history” sounds like one of the last things you’d want to draw attention to when talking about the Trail Of Tears. If they had said “In memory of those who died while on the Trail of Tears” it would make more sense.

264 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:07:37pm

re: #254 Kragar

Next up, the Bataan Death March fun run!

Andersonville Weight Loss Camp!

265 Mattand  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:08:05pm

re: #258 HoosierHoops

You know..Oklahoma has owned the trail of tears and faced it and they speak of it often on TV. There is no brushing away history here.
I think there is something like 9 tribes here and education and growth is the story of the day. I have learned so much about Native Americans from the PSA’s on TV. Oklahoma has embraced the culture and history of Native Americans. IMHO

No offense, but using a genocidal forced death march in a pitch to win the Olympics is not the same as owning up to a problem.

266 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:08:16pm

re: #262 HAL2010

Personally, I find his comment rather hyperbolic, but he does have a point in that it certainly has rallied people in Texas. The situation in Egypt is far more dangerous for the people in the streets, obviously.

Oh sure. I got his point. Lots of rally photos from both today all over Twitter.

It’s just that we can’t forget the very real, stark differences between the two. Nobody here in Austin is in immediate danger of getting killed, unlike the people in Egypt.

267 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:09:20pm

re: #257 Kragar

This “disgusting” argument is most persuasive. I’d never carefully considered it before…..OK, I’ve carefully considered it now. And now you can go eat a bag of dicks, ADA.

268 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:09:51pm

Wait, the woman who was all for the Texas abortion ban has the nerve to say this:

“I too have a dream!” Loesch continued. “I dream that one day our lawmakers will leave us alone! Let us do what we want! Stay out of my gun case! Stay out of my bank account! Stay out of my bedroom! Stay out of my church! Stay out of my business! I’ll carry what I want to carry!”

269 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:11:31pm

re: #268 Kragar

Stay out of my bedroom!

“Delete…did not say…You Lie!!…”

//

270 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:12:16pm

re: #266 Lidane

Agree 100 percent. At least Perry cannot order the army to open fire.

271 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:13:01pm

“I’ll carry what I want to carry!”

Except in Texas, where you’ll carry whatever the hell the GOP tells you to for your health.

272 Tigger2  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:13:42pm

re: #236 Kragar

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Chickenshit disabled comments.

273 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:13:52pm

re: #270 HAL2010

Agree 100 percent. At least Perry cannot order the army to open fire.

Well, he could, but neither he nor Morsi has much chance of the army listening to them right now.

274 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:14:36pm

re: #272 Tigger2

Chickenshit disabled comments.

Of course he did. Stifling dissenting voices is part of what makes up a great Christian Nation.
/

275 HoosierHoops  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:15:37pm

re: #260 Kragar

It still strikes me as in really poor taste, never mind the total insanity of thinking hosting the Olympics is a good deal for the host city.

Oklahoma has owned the trail of tears. It’s not in poor taste. It is their history and they face it in humbleness. How many other states have spent a hundred years making up for the wrongs and pain they inflicted? I’ve been here 2 1/2 years and am impressed with Oklahoma.
It reminds me of the Olympics in Australia and how they revealed and showed the past wrongs of the Native people there.
It’s not in poor taste. It’s educating the world of the past history here.
More people need to learn the lessons of the trail of tears

276 Tigger2  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:15:54pm

re: #274 Kragar

Of course he did. Stifling dissenting voices is part of what makes up a great Christian Nation.
/

Bryan is a one man Hate Group.

277 Mattand  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:16:13pm

re: #270 HAL2010

Agree 100 percent. At least Perry cannot order the army to open fire.

No, but given the Lt. Gov’s behavior over the weekend, I kind of wonder how close we’re getting to that line.

278 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:16:25pm
279 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:16:31pm

The GOP doesn’t want to be in your bedroom. As long as you’re white, upper crust, a lifetime NRA member, heterosexual with no need for any form of birth control. Oh, and also a man.

In fact, as long as you fit the exact demographic makeup of the GOP today, the party will stay out of your bedroom.

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW.

280 Archangelus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:18:00pm

re: #266 Lidane

Nobody here in Austin is in immediate danger of getting killed

Here’s hoping, cause the only times I read about authorities closing down Internet access prior to protests, they all turn bloody.
Nice to know Perry has no problems placing himself on the same level as Bashar Assad in Syria, Ahmedinejad and the Ayatollahs in Iran and a few other places that are dark, repressive, violent and backwards…

281 Kragar  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:18:33pm

29 House Republicans propose constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage

Tell me again how the GOP believes in freedom and smaller government and staying out of people’s lives.

282 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:19:31pm


And at the same time, Morsi plays the anti-America card.

283 freetoken  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:19:35pm

re: #281 Kragar

Focused on jobs.

Like a laser.

284 Mattand  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:20:10pm

re: #275 HoosierHoops

Oklahoma has owned the trail of tears. It’s not in poor taste. It is their history and they face it in humbleness. How many other states have spent a hundred years making up for the wrongs and pain they inflicted? I’ve been here 2 1/2 years and am impressed with Oklahoma.
It reminds me of the Olympics in Australia and how they revealed and showed the past wrongs of the Native people there.
It’s not in poor taste. It’s educating the world of the past history here.
More people need to learn the lessons of the trail of tears

Look, no one’s slagging OK and it’s cool that you love the state and the people.

Promoting the Trail of Tears like this, however, is a bad, tasteless idea.

285 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:20:22pm

re: #281 Kragar

See my #279

286 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:20:29pm

re: #254 Kragar

Next up, the Bataan Death March fun run!

It can be done right.

Look around there. Start training.

287 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:20:38pm

re: #281 Kragar

29 House Republicans propose constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage

Tell me again how the GOP believes in freedom and smaller government and staying out of people’s lives.

Aside from Prohibition, I can’t think of any other Amendment that we’ve ever passed that restricted rights.

288 Mattand  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:22:54pm

re: #280 Archangelus

Here’s hoping, cause the only times I read about authorities closing down Internet access prior to protests, they all turn bloody.
Nice to know Perry has no problems placing himself on the same level as Bashar Assad in Syria, Ahmedinejad and the Ayatollahs in Iran and a few other places that are dark, repressive, violent and backwards…

Need to find the link, but the state didn’t shutdown the wifi. Probably got overwhelmed by the amount of users.

As far as Perry behaving like a religious zealot, OTOH, no arguments there.

289 Bulworth  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:23:35pm

re: #281 Kragar

Dude’s standing in front of a banner sponsored by something called the “Liberty Council”. Orwell rolling in grave, etc.

290 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:23:44pm

re: #288 Mattand

Need to find the link, but the state didn’t shutdown the wifi. Probably got overwhelmed by the amount of users.

As far as Perry behaving like a religious zealot, OTOH, no arguments there.

Yeah, the public WiFi might have gotten clogged, but it never went down.

291 efuseakay  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:25:28pm

re: #268 Kragar

Wait, the woman who was all for the Texas abortion ban has the nerve to say this:

Does “carry” also include a fetus? Apparently not. You hypocritical bitch.

292 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:25:29pm

Quote from link:

The Yarnell Hill fire, like other wildfires in the West right now, is taking place in the context of one of the most extreme heat waves on record in the region, as well as a long-running drought. While the contributors to specific fires are varied and include natural weather and climate variability as well as human factors, such as arson, a draft federal climate report released in January found that manmade climate change, along with other factors, has already increased the overall risk of wildfires in the Southwest.

293 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:25:29pm
294 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:27:54pm

re: #282 HAL2010

Morsi plays the anti-America card.

Which is why Obama is probably smart to say as little as possible. Although I would like him to endorse overthrowing the Muslim Bros, it’s probably best he stay quiet.

295 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:28:28pm

re: #291 efuseakay

Does “carry” also include a fetus? Apparently not. You hypocritical bitch.

Image: bullets.jpg

296 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:29:38pm

Best health care in the world! Free market!!1! Derp.

297 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:29:52pm
298 piratedan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:30:13pm

re: #258 HoosierHoops

You know..Oklahoma has owned the trail of tears and faced it and they speak of it often on TV. There is no brushing away history here.
I think there is something like 9 tribes here and education and growth is the story of the day. I have learned so much about Native Americans from the PSA’s on TV. Oklahoma has embraced the culture and history of Native Americans. IMHO

lovely, if only they could have their residents embrace their own license plates instead of suing that their religious freedom was infringed upon.

indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com

299 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:31:46pm


Head of the Swedish foreign office. If you know him, it’s fro his days as a UN envoy to the former Yugoslavia.

300 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:32:05pm

re: #275 HoosierHoops

Oklahoma has owned the trail of tears. It’s not in poor taste. It is their history and they face it in humbleness. How many other states have spent a hundred years making up for the wrongs and pain they inflicted? I’ve been here 2 1/2 years and am impressed with Oklahoma.
It reminds me of the Olympics in Australia and how they revealed and showed the past wrongs of the Native people there.
It’s not in poor taste. It’s educating the world of the past history here.
More people need to learn the lessons of the trail of tears

That part of it I can accept, but that a town like Tulsa can host the Olympic Games is more than a pipe dream, it is delusional

302 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:34:45pm

re: #294 Killgore Trout

Which is why Obama is probably smart to say as little as possible. Although I would like him to endorse overthrowing the Muslim Bros, it’s probably best he stay quiet.

Most likely. Considering their large base of supporters it would do nothing but alienate large parts of Egypt. Staying silent is very prudent atm.

303 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:35:08pm

Oh, by the way, Margaret Atwood (author of The Handmaid’s Tale) retweeted me:


She has 408,799 followers, so hopefully that will mean more hits for this post.

304 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:37:09pm

Ping to bed soon, nearly midnight here in Stockholm, but if you’re interested I Egypt I’d recommend this:


Also,

re: #303 Interesting Times

Oh, by the way, Margaret Atwood (author of The Handmaid’s Tale) retweeted me:

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She has 408,799 followers, so hopefully that will mean more hits for this post.

Congratulations, well done!

305 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:38:26pm

re: #303 Interesting Times

Oh, by the way, Margaret Atwood (author of The Handmaid’s Tale) retweeted me:

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She has 408,799 followers, so hopefully that will mean more hits for this post.

Way cool!

306 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:40:26pm
307 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:42:23pm

Heh.

308 HAL2010  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:44:01pm



Uh-oh.

309 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:44:30pm

Afternoon Lizardim from the warm and (thankfully) dry wild north country. The crops are finally sprouting and summer is officially a go. I see the derp continues unceasingly from the GOP - any chance they may have had at gaining minority votes is completely gone by now, and they have firmly staked their future to the fat old white farts of this country. If I start turning into a fat old fart, please shoot me.

310 Interesting Times  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:46:44pm
311 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:47:05pm

re: #102 Lidane

OMG. Please stay safe.

312 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:48:52pm

re: #311 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!

OMG. Please stay safe.

Thanks, but it’s all good. Things are quiet around here now. The only thing going on outside my window is the usual ebb and flow of traffic in downtown Austin.

313 Tigger2005  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:55:00pm

The old white men look so pleased and delighted with themselves. It’s all for the bebbies of course. All for the sweet lil innocent helpless bebbies. The ones they will call leeches on the system the instant they’re born.

314 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:55:11pm

GOHMERT!

315 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:58:31pm
316 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:58:41pm

re: #314 Lidane

GOHMERT!

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Y’know, we Alabamans have our assholes too, but they mostly lack all flair and passion. How do you Texans turn your run-of-the-mill dipshits into such meteoric, cosmic clowns? We need to up our game, if just for the entertainment.

317 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:59:32pm

re: #316 Decatur Deb

Y’know, we Alabamans have our assholes too, but they mostly lack all flair and passion. How do you Texans turn your run-of-the-mill dipshits into such meteoric, cosmic clowns? We need to up our game, if just for the entertainment.

Sorry, Deb. Everything’s bigger in Texas. Including the derp.

318 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 2:59:35pm
Clinics that provide abortion services will be required to have transfer agreements with local hospitals, and then bans public hospitals from establishing those agreements, all in the hopes of shutting the clinics down.

They’ve literally and without any shame legislated a Catch 22.

319 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:00:10pm

re: #316 Decatur Deb

Y’know, we Alabamans have our assholes too, but they mostly lack all flair and passion. How do you Texans turn your run-of-the-mill dipshits into such meteoric, cosmic clowns? We need to up our game, if just for the entertainment.

Your problem is that you guys don’t know how to properly gerrymander. The Texas GOP has it down to an art form. As a consequence, we end up with dipshits like Gohmert in office.

320 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:01:16pm

re: #319 Lidane

Your problem is that you guys don’t know how to properly gerrymander. The Texas GOP has it down to an art form. As a consequence, we end up with dipshits like Gohmert in office.

We tried once. It got us Bachmann. But now she’s gone, so we are bereft of our obligatory figurehead of stupid.

321 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:03:22pm

re: #320 thedopefishlives

We tried once. It got us Bachmann. But now she’s gone, so we are bereft of our obligatory figurehead of stupid.

Take a few of ours. We’ve got plenty to spare.

322 Gus  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:05:07pm
323 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:06:08pm

re: #322 Gus

Gov. John Kasich, for redefining “pregnancy” and other ways to oppress women

And in doing so, redefining “asshole”

324 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:08:47pm

re: #321 Lidane

Take a few of ours. We’ve got plenty to spare.

Oh, I wouldn’t worry too much. Our state bird is, after all, the common loon.

325 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:09:39pm

re: #324 thedopefishlives

Oh, I wouldn’t worry too much. Our state bird is, after all, the common loon.

Pffftt.. It’s the Uncommon Loons that really entertain.

326 Kid Hail Satan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:10:47pm

Okay, when these assholes basically shut down all of the clinics in Texas, four will remain. A friend of mine said that the four remaining are all private and owned by the same company. She also said they have donated to Perry campaigns. I have no reason to disbelieve her, but that is hard to believe. Anyone know about this.

327 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:11:06pm

re: #325 Decatur Deb

Pffftt.. It’s the Uncommon Loons that really entertain.

Yeah, that happens after the common ones graduate law school.///

328 kirkspencer  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:11:15pm

re: #322 Gus

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As others have pointed out, by doing this redefinition it can make some types of contraceptives illegal as well. IUDs and Plan B come to mind

329 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:12:16pm
330 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:12:26pm

re: #328 kirkspencer

As others have pointed out, by doing this redefinition it can make some types of contraceptives illegal as well. IUDs and Plan B come to mind

Say again how it doesn’t turn normal IVF procedures into mass murder.

331 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:15:07pm
332 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:15:51pm

re: #331 NJDhockeyfan

Of course he is. My surprise, let me show you it.

333 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:16:02pm

re: #258 HoosierHoops

Totally agree.

334 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:16:55pm

re: #331 NJDhockeyfan

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“And by ‘Wikileaks’ I mean ‘his ass’.”

335 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:18:30pm

Shorter Snowden: “That big bad black man is being mean to me!”

336 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:20:30pm

re: #334 Decatur Deb

“And by ‘Wikileaks’ I mean ‘his ass’.”

Here is his statement:

Statement from Edward Snowden in Moscow

Monday July 1, 21:40 UTC

One week ago I left Hong Kong after it became clear that my freedom and safety were under threat for revealing the truth. My continued liberty has been owed to the efforts of friends new and old, family, and others who I have never met and probably never will. I trusted them with my life and they returned that trust with a faith in me for which I will always be thankful.

On Thursday, President Obama declared before the world that he would not permit any diplomatic “wheeling and dealing” over my case. Yet now it is being reported that after promising not to do so, the President ordered his Vice President to pressure the leaders of nations from which I have requested protection to deny my asylum petitions.

This kind of deception from a world leader is not justice, and neither is the extralegal penalty of exile. These are the old, bad tools of political aggression. Their purpose is to frighten, not me, but those who would come after me.

For decades the United States of America have been one of the strongest defenders of the human right to seek asylum. Sadly, this right, laid out and voted for by the U.S. in Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, is now being rejected by the current government of my country. The Obama administration has now adopted the strategy of using citizenship as a weapon. Although I am convicted of nothing, it has unilaterally revoked my passport, leaving me a stateless person. Without any judicial order, the administration now seeks to stop me exercising a basic right. A right that belongs to everybody. The right to seek asylum.

In the end the Obama administration is not afraid of whistleblowers like me, Bradley Manning or Thomas Drake. We are stateless, imprisoned, or powerless. No, the Obama administration is afraid of you. It is afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised — and it should be.

I am unbowed in my convictions and impressed at the efforts taken by so many.

Edward Joseph Snowden

Monday 1st July 2013

337 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:21:08pm

re: #335 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Shorter Snowden: “That big bad black man is being mean to me!”

Idiot has never read his passport. It’s just a polite letter asking foreign officials to be nice to him.

338 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:22:30pm

re: #336 NJDhockeyfan

This kind of deception from a world leader is not justice, and neither is the extralegal penalty of exile. These are the old, bad tools of political aggression. Their purpose is to frighten, not me, but those who would come after me.

Um, you can come back to the US any time, Snowden.

339 Joanne  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:22:34pm

Snowden assails Obama, says administration has made him ‘stateless person’

In a new statement, the fugitive whistleblower Edward Snowden said President Obama was employing “old, bad tools of political aggression” in his campaign to prevent Snowden from gaining political asylum.

“Although I am convicted of nothing,” Snowden said, the Obama administration “has unilaterally revoked my passport, leaving me a stateless person.”

Read more at:
washingtonpost.com

340 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:23:37pm

DERP
No he can’t Glenn, because he has NOE MOAR SEEKRITS. Teh Russkies hav taeken tem all awye!!

341 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:23:41pm

re: #338 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Um, you can come back to the US any time, Snowden.

At this point, I’m not sure if he can. If he’s in Moscow as the common claim goes, he may not have the option of leaving.

342 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:23:53pm

re: #339 Joanne

Snowden assails Obama, says administration has made him ‘stateless person’

In a new statement, the fugitive whistleblower Edward Snowden said President Obama was employing “old, bad tools of political aggression” in his campaign to prevent Snowden from gaining political asylum.

“Although I am convicted of nothing,” Snowden said, the Obama administration “has unilaterally revoked my passport, leaving me a stateless person.”

Read more at:
washingtonpost.com

Passports are not citizenship documents. In fact there is provision for us to issue one to non-US ‘Persons”.

343 bratwurst  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:24:07pm
344 Joanne  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:24:11pm

My heart bleeds for Snowden. He’s apparently unfamiliar with the word Consequences.

345 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:25:17pm

re: #344 Joanne

My heart bleeds for Snowden. He’s apparently unfamiliar with the word Consequences.

You get the sense he might have received some poor advice along the way.

346 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:25:33pm

DERP

347 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:25:39pm

re: #344 Joanne

My heart bleeds for Snowden. He’s apparently unfamiliar with the word Consequences.

This, folks, is what happens to special little snowflakes.

348 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:25:48pm

re: #341 thedopefishlives

At this point, I’m not sure if he can. If he’s in Moscow as the common claim goes, he may not have the option of leaving.

IIRC, he’s still sitting in the terminal, with no way of leaving because his passport’s been revoked, HK said they won’t allow him back, and Ecuador’s shut the door in his face because of Assange thinking he can offer asylum and have the government rubber stamp it.

349 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:26:21pm

re: #348 Targetpractice

IIRC, he’s still sitting in the terminal, with no way of leaving because his passport’s been revoked, HK said they won’t allow him back, and Ecuador’s shut the door in his face because of Assange thinking he can offer asylum and have the government rubber stamp it.

I thought Putin had given assurances that he wasn’t flying anywhere any time soon.

350 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:27:37pm

re: #349 thedopefishlives

I thought Putin had given assurances that he wasn’t flying anywhere any time soon.

Putin’s statement today was essentially “He’s welcome to seek asylum here, but only if he stops leaking information.” Who knew, an ex-KGB guy with a sense of humor.

351 abolitionist  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:28:34pm

re: #349 thedopefishlives

I thought Putin had given assurances that he wasn’t flying anywhere any time soon.

Several days ago, Putin was saying it was time for Snowden to be leaving. (I can’t explain that.)

352 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:28:52pm

re: #350 Targetpractice

Putin’s statement today was essentially “He’s welcome to seek asylum here, but only if he stops leaking information.” Who knew, an ex-KGB guy with a sense of humor.

When KGB do slapstick, they do slapstick.

353 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:28:56pm

re: #351 abolitionist

Several days ago, Putin was saying it was time for Snowden to be leaving. (I can’t explain that.)

Magnets?

//

354 abolitionist  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:29:45pm

re: #353 Targetpractice

Magnets?

//

Google Maxwell+equations

355 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:30:59pm

re: #352 Decatur Deb

When KGB do slapstick, they do slapstick.

I hear they have some solid punch lines.

356 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:31:40pm

re: #355 Targetpractice

I hear they have some sold punch lines.

They’ve been killing them in the aisles.

357 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:33:23pm

re: #356 Decatur Deb

They’ve been killing them in the aisles.

Got’em dying with laughter.

358 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:34:21pm

re: #357 Targetpractice

Got’em dying with laughter.

“You’ll howl, you’ll scream”

359 Lidane  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 3:45:41pm
360 AlexRogan  Mon, Jul 1, 2013 4:23:23pm

re: #257 Kragar

American Decency Association: Gays Are ‘Disgusting’

Suck it, Bubba Flavel…


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