The Vicious Lies of Snowden Booster Jason Leopold

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So last night on Twitter, this happened. “Investigative journalist” Jason Leopold, out of the blue, suddenly decided to attack, responding to this post without ever addressing the substance of it.

This Twitter collection is in reverse chronological order; I recommend scrolling all the way to the bottom and reading up, to get the full flavor of how the Snowden boosters roll.

It gets ugly fast.

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299 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 2:17:39pm

I especially love how Leopold calls me “deluded” and a “fucking moron,” then says “don’t be a dick.”

These people are really not well.

2 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 29, 2014 2:17:51pm

What is that HORRIFIC ANTI-SEMITIC CARICATURE on his profile page?

3 Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2014 2:19:15pm

The Cult of Snowden will not be mocked!!!

4 Kragar  Jun 29, 2014 2:20:08pm

Libertarians are ugly, ignorant, stupid people.

5 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 2:21:25pm

re: #4 Kragar

Libertarians are ugly, ignorant, stupid people.

Malignant narcissists.

6 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 29, 2014 2:24:14pm

Leopold is not right in the head department.

7 Zamb  Jun 29, 2014 2:25:12pm

re: #4 Kragar

I’ve spent enough time around them to know they are a bed of fallacies and poor reading comprehension combined with an exaggerated sense of self importance.

8 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 29, 2014 2:27:00pm

Oh I see he dragged out that bugfuck stupid John Cook Gawker article from five years ago.

Didn’t bother to scroll down to see if he links to Diarrhea of Dead Louse.

9 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 2:27:19pm

re: #6 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Leopold is not right in the head department.

MAD Magazine

10 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 2:27:22pm

This was great:

Uh, OK.

And then he completely ignores it.

11 Kragar  Jun 29, 2014 2:28:33pm

12 Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2014 2:30:10pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

This was great:

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And then he completely ignores it.

That’s a glibertarian hallmark: Demanding proof and then totally ignoring the proof to continue on with their BS.

“PROVE ME WRONG!”

“Okay, here’s the proof.”

“THAT DOESN’T PROVE ANYTHING!!!”

13 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 29, 2014 2:30:14pm

re: #2 Pie-onist Overlord

What is that HORRIFIC ANTI-SEMITIC CARICATURE on his profile page?

Where? Aside from an IF Stone picture (which is, of course, not antisemitic) I don’t see any other caricatures.

14 Romantic Heretic  Jun 29, 2014 2:30:26pm

re: #4 Kragar

Libertarians Anarchists are ugly, ignorant, stupid people.

FTFY. Libertarianism is a marketing strategy.

15 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 29, 2014 2:34:08pm

re: #13 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Where? Aside from an IF Stone picture (which is, of course, not antisemitic) I don’t see any other caricatures.

I never heard of I.F. Stone but he does not look as HORRIFICALLY JUICY as the caricature suggests.

16 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 29, 2014 2:34:54pm

re: #15 Pie-onist Overlord

So?

17 Kragar  Jun 29, 2014 2:35:09pm

re: #12 Targetpractice

That’s a glibertarian hallmark: Demanding proof and then totally ignoring the proof to continue on with their BS.

“PROVE ME WRONG!”

“Okay, here’s the proof.”

“THAT DOESN’T PROVE ANYTHING!!!”

Facts don’t mean much to Dudebros

18 Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2014 2:37:32pm

re: #17 Kragar

Facts don’t mean much to Dudebros

Conspiracy theories work better in an atmosphere devoid of facts.

19 Zamb  Jun 29, 2014 2:38:35pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

Conspiracy theories work better in an atmosphere devoid of facts.

It doesn’t matter if it is true, what matters is if it feels like it could be true.

20 Kragar  Jun 29, 2014 2:39:04pm

Speaking of libertarians

21 ObserverArt  Jun 29, 2014 2:40:45pm

re: #19 Zamb

It doesn’t matter if it is true, what matters is if it feels like it could be true.

Add in a little “want it to be true” and you have the formula.

22 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 2:41:25pm

Man oh man. Looks through Snowden booster, Jason Leopold’s timeline. He really had a nervous breakdown about this.

23 prairiefire  Jun 29, 2014 2:42:05pm

re: #22 Gus

Man oh man. Looks through Snowden booster, Jason Leopold’s timeline. He really had a nervous breakdown about this.

Ha!

24 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 2:42:18pm

Dudebros.

25 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 29, 2014 2:42:31pm

re: #22 Gus

Perhaps he needs professional help. There are indications he’s had mental health issues. Hopefully he doesn’t have any guns.

26 b.d.  Jun 29, 2014 2:47:09pm

That just may be the most words Jason ever have wrote without plagiarizing someone.

btw, still waiting on that Rove indictment Jason.

27 Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2014 2:47:32pm

re: #19 Zamb

It doesn’t matter if it is true, what matters is if it feels like it could be true.

Yep, it’s not a question of what the facts are, it’s a question of what the facts can be twisted into supporting.

28 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 2:48:05pm
29 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 29, 2014 2:48:18pm

re: #26 b.d.

That just may be the most words Jason ever have wrote without plagiarizing someone.

btw, still waiting on that Rove indictment Jason.

“My dog ated it. :(“

30 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 2:48:45pm

re: #22 Gus

Man oh man. Looks through Snowden booster, Jason Leopold’s timeline. He really had a nervous breakdown about this.

Yep.

31 Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2014 2:50:13pm

re: #26 b.d.

That just may be the most words Jason ever have wrote without plagiarizing someone.

btw, still waiting on that Rove indictment Jason.

Has it been 3 “business days” yet?

32 b.d.  Jun 29, 2014 2:50:14pm

re: #29 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

“My dog ated it. :(“

That was way back when the dudebro posse was all in favor of sending people to jail for leaking state secrets to reporters.

Ahhhhhh memories.

33 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 2:50:46pm
34 Ryan King  Jun 29, 2014 2:51:57pm

re: #4 Kragar

Libertarians are ugly, ignorant, stupid people.

Basically the hipster holder brother of Tea Party morons.

35 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 29, 2014 2:54:31pm

re: #34 Ryan King

Basically the hipster holder brother of Tea Party morons.

I want to be unique, just like everybody else I know. Now where’s my ironic fedora and mustache wax?

RBS

36 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 2:54:49pm
37 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 2:55:37pm

In sport news.

38 sattv4u2  Jun 29, 2014 2:59:21pm

re: #37 teleskiguy

In sport news.

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They’ll be back together, with Wade and Bosh getting less per year but more years guaranteed, and Lebron getting a max contract

The less per year that Bosh and Wade get will go to bringing in a few pieces that were missing this year

39 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 3:00:38pm
40 Kragar  Jun 29, 2014 3:03:30pm
41 lawhawk  Jun 29, 2014 3:04:01pm

Some impressive gun safety there. Despite claims that the gun show checks that all weapons are not loaded, the exhibitor still shot this woman. The guy says that he did this demo a bunch of times without incident at this same show. IOW, he’d been playing Russian roulette the entire gun show, and this woman paid the price.

42 lawhawk  Jun 29, 2014 3:06:32pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Which isn’t all that different from what Iran is in fact, and what Saudi Arabia is in practice.

43 Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2014 3:06:48pm

re: #41 lawhawk

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Some impressive gun safety there. Despite claims that the gun show checks that all weapons are not loaded, the exhibitor still shot this woman. The guy says that he did this demo a bunch of times without incident at this same show. IOW, he’d been playing Russian roulette the entire gun show, and this woman paid the price.

I notice that “gun safety” apparently isn’t high on the list of the people who preach the most about everybody being armed.

44 Decatur Deb  Jun 29, 2014 3:08:45pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

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Could be wrong here, but for a caliphate don’t you sort of need a…Caliph?
Don’t think this guy is going to cut it:

dw.de

45 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 29, 2014 3:08:49pm

So I’ve been reading about IF Stone right now. Wow, what a mensch.

46 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 29, 2014 3:09:18pm
47 Justanotherhuman  Jun 29, 2014 3:10:10pm

I wish if the Dudebros™ were going to have nervous breakdowns while tweeting, they’d just stay off the internet.

48 Justanotherhuman  Jun 29, 2014 3:11:57pm

There was no bomb, but I hope they find the sick bastard who did this.

Bomb threat closes part of Busch Gardens in Williamsburg, Va., officials say - @PilotNews
Read more on hamptonroads.com

49 urbanmeemaw  Jun 29, 2014 3:13:45pm

re: #29 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

“My dog ated it. :(“

“The NSA disappeared it!”

50 CuriousLurker  Jun 29, 2014 3:16:09pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Imagine my surprise upon discovering that Jason Leopold has appeared on RT America several times—sounds like he fits right in: youtube.com

51 blueraven  Jun 29, 2014 3:17:20pm

OT -

Obama to nominate former Procter & Gamble CEO, Robert MacDonald to head VA

President Obama on Monday will nominate Bob McDonald, a West Point graduate who served as the chief executive of Procter & Gamble, to take over as head of the troubled Department of Veterans Affairs, according to White House officials.

The un­or­tho­dox pick of a retired corporate executive whose former company produces iconic household products such as Tide detergent and Charmin toilet paper — rather than a former military general — underscores the serious management problems facing the agency charged with serving more than 8 million veterans a year.

I hope he goes in there and kicks some ass.

52 lawhawk  Jun 29, 2014 3:20:59pm

Though to be a bit more serious about the ISIS claim of establishing a caliphate, one has to have a caliph that one would follow. Who is the one that anyone outside of ISIS true-believers would follow?

It also ignores that ISIS will barely be able to hold on to what territory they’ve claimed thus far.

As it is, the Iraqi government is continuing their pushback against ISIS advances, and it’s not likely that ISIS will be able to hold what they’ve taken.

53 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 3:22:28pm
54 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 3:22:52pm

re: #51 blueraven

OT -

Obama to nominate former Procter & Gamble CEO, Robert MacDonald to head VA

I hope he goes in there and kicks some ass.

55 lawhawk  Jun 29, 2014 3:23:13pm

re: #46 Pie-onist Overlord

ISIS is a spinoff to AQ, so they’re likely doing much the same thing that AQ wants to do, but isn’t on their own. Shared goals and aspirations, but I also sense there’s a whole lot of overreach in what ISIS is claiming/doing and what they’re able to do.

It also shows just how groups like AQ and ISIS can exploit failed and failing states.

56 CuriousLurker  Jun 29, 2014 3:26:55pm

re: #50 CuriousLurker

According to WIkipedia, Salon removed one of his articles back in 2002:

Salon article removal

In September 2002, following a two-week investigation, Salon removed from its website an article authored by Leopold about Army Secretary Thomas E. White’s role in the Enron collapse, due to questions about the validity of an e-mail and allegations that portions of the article had not been adequately credited to the Financial Times. The disputed e-mail was said to have been from White, telling the recipient to “Close a bigger deal to hide the loss.” According to Salon, Leopold’s article “used seven full paragraphs amounting to 480 words, virtually verbatim, from the FT. There were two attributions to the FT within the passage, but they appeared to apply only to the specific sentences that contained them, not to the full passage.” Leopold later admitted that he had been careless by not providing the FT with additional credit, but insisted that Salon’s editors had all the relevant documents, including the disputed White email, before the story was published. Paul Krugman of the New York Times, who wrote a piece based in part on Leopold’s work, also had to backpedal, acknowledging that he should not have cited the e-mail. […]

en.wikipedia.org

There’s plenty of other less than flattering stuff there.

57 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 29, 2014 3:27:07pm

“JUST A PIECE OF CLOTH”? NO!! IT’S AN EXCUSE FOR US TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YOU!!!!”
Please explain to me how the Tea Party is different from ISIS?

58 b.d.  Jun 29, 2014 3:29:15pm

Isn’t Proctor and Gamble that devil worshiping company? Makes sense for an 0bama appointment!!

59 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 3:30:16pm

re: #56 CuriousLurker

Leopold has a long history of sleazy practices - sock puppets, plagiarism, drug abuse, you name it. Not to mention his repellent, nasty personality.

60 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 3:31:56pm

Can we just agree that any so-called “media” company with the word “TRUTH” in its name is probably completely full of shit?

61 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 3:35:00pm

MCDONALD, ROBERT A. MR.
CINCINNATI, OH 45243
PROCTER AND GAMBLE COMPANY

BOEHNER, JOHN A.
VIA FRIENDS OF JOHN BOEHNER
08/06/2012 2500.00 12972647529
07/31/2013 1000.00 13964787664

MCDONALD, ROBERT A. MR.
CINCINNATI, OH 45243
THE PROCTOR & GAMBLE COMPANY

ROMNEY / PAUL D. RYAN, MITT
VIA ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT, INC.
05/25/2012 2500.00 13942736438
05/25/2012 2500.00 13942796128

62 b.d.  Jun 29, 2014 3:36:09pm

re: #61 Gus

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ROMNEY WAS A RINO LIBTARD

63 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jun 29, 2014 3:37:13pm

re: #57 Pie-onist Overlord

“JUST A PIECE OF CLOTH”? NO!! IT’S AN EXCUSE FOR US TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YOU!!!!”
Please explain to me how the Tea Party is different from ISIS?

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It’s not just a piece of cloth, it’s an occasion for forced expressions of political fealty!

And these are the people who complain about “political correctness”.

64 jaunte  Jun 29, 2014 3:38:28pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Best line of the debate: “I dare you to take a poll.”

65 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 3:43:44pm
66 thedopefishlives  Jun 29, 2014 3:45:13pm

I love how they keep coming after you with the Breivik thing. It’s like they think nobody can read.

67 blueraven  Jun 29, 2014 3:45:19pm

re: #57 Pie-onist Overlord

“JUST A PIECE OF CLOTH”? NO!! IT’S AN EXCUSE FOR US TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YOU!!!!”
Please explain to me how the Tea Party is different from ISIS?

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Anyway, who said the flag is just a piece of cloth?
It is a symbol for the USA and I rather like it. I always fly one and not because I feel like I have anything to prove. I like watching it wave in the breeze.

I am a liberal flag waver.

#SoSueMe

68 thedopefishlives  Jun 29, 2014 3:46:18pm

re: #67 blueraven

Anyway, who said the flag is just a piece of cloth?
It is a symbol for the USA and I rather like it. I always fly one and not because I feel like I have anything to prove. I like watching it wave in the breeze.

I am a liberal flag waver.

#SoSueMe

I fly one out in front of my house because I love my country. Not a communist pinko America-hater Obama drone fascist jackbooted thug.

69 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP  Jun 29, 2014 3:47:35pm

re: #57 Pie-onist Overlord

“JUST A PIECE OF CLOTH”? NO!! IT’S AN EXCUSE FOR US TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YOU!!!!”
Please explain to me how the Tea Party is different from ISIS?

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These are the same morons who refuse to abide by the Flag Code.

70 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 3:49:34pm
71 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 29, 2014 3:50:06pm

re: #69 Sionainn

These are the same morons who refuse to abide by the Flag Code.

These are the same morons who spam a photo of “Hail to the Chief” and go HURR HURR WHY IS OBAMA JUST STANDIN THEIR WHILE EVERYBODY ELSE SALUTE TEH FLAG!!!!!

72 Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2014 3:50:58pm

re: #67 blueraven

Anyway, who said the flag is just a piece of cloth?
It is a symbol for the USA and I rather like it. I always fly one and not because I feel like I have anything to prove. I like watching it wave in the breeze.

I am a liberal flag waver.

#SoSueMe

Indeed, I see nothing wrong with the American flag. I do have it with the numbnuts who wrap themselves around in it, both figuratively and literally.

73 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 29, 2014 3:52:37pm

Well I’m going to Tweet a picture of The Flag outside my house on this July 4.

74 Recreational Birth Control User  Jun 29, 2014 3:54:20pm

Oh my god. WTF? And anyone who has followed Charles for any period of time knows how much Breivik hated him!

75 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 3:58:37pm
76 Recreational Birth Control User  Jun 29, 2014 4:00:13pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

God, I’m a nerd.

77 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 4:00:19pm
78 Lidane  Jun 29, 2014 4:00:27pm

re: #69 Sionainn

These are the same morons who refuse to abide by the Flag Code.

The Flag Code only applies to libruls and brown people.

79 thedopefishlives  Jun 29, 2014 4:00:27pm

re: #74 Keep Texas Prisons Rapey!1!1!1!!!

Oh my god. WTF? And anyone who has followed Charles for any period of time knows how much Breivik hated him!

Yeah, but truth never mattered to folks like these.

80 b_sharp  Jun 29, 2014 4:01:35pm

re: #65 Gus

[Embedded content]

Page 635 in Brevik’s Manifesto
It was written by Fjordman

brevik’s manifesto

81 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 4:01:43pm
82 Kragar  Jun 29, 2014 4:02:28pm

re: #57 Pie-onist Overlord

“JUST A PIECE OF CLOTH”? NO!! IT’S AN EXCUSE FOR US TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YOU!!!!”
Please explain to me how the Tea Party is different from ISIS?

[Embedded content]

Respect the Flag!

Now, buy our cheezy made in China shirts and other apparel to show your respect.

83 CuriousLurker  Jun 29, 2014 4:02:53pm

re: #52 lawhawk

Though to be a bit more serious about the ISIS claim of establishing a caliphate, one has to have a caliph that one would follow. Who is the one that anyone outside of ISIS true-believers would follow?

It also ignores that ISIS will barely be able to hold on to what territory they’ve claimed thus far.

As it is, the Iraqi government is continuing their pushback against ISIS advances, and it’s not likely that ISIS will be able to hold what they’ve taken.

It’s also not something you just wave your magic wand and declare. You’re basically saying that you’re creating an Islamic state, therefore you’d need to be prepared to provide everything that implies—a functioning government with judges & courts, local representatives (governors, mayors, etc.), law enforcement & other first responders, hospitals, schools, etc.

A caliphate (in Arabic: خلافة‎ khilafa, meaning “succession”) is an Islamic state led by a supreme religious and political leader known as a caliph — i.e. “successor” — to Muhammad. The succession of Muslim empires that have existed in the Muslim world are usually described as “caliphates”. Conceptually, a caliphate represents a sovereign polity (state) of the entire Muslim faithful (the Ummah, i.e. a sovereign nation state) ruled by a single caliph under the Constitution of Medina and Islamic law (sharia).

In its earliest days, the first caliphate, the Rashidun Caliphate, exhibited elements of direct democracy (shura). It was led, at first, by Muhammad’s immediate disciples and family as a continuation of the religious systems he had introduced.

The Sunni branch of Islam stipulates that as a head of state, a caliph should be elected by Muslims or their representatives. […]

en.wikipedia.org

Also, and perhaps just as importantly, the Caliph would need to be someone who neither asks for nor is covetous of the position. Good luck with that.*

It has been narrated by Abu Musa who said:

Two of my cousins and I entered the apartment of the Prophet (ﷺ). One of them said: Messenger of Allah, appoint us rulers of some lands that the Almighty and Glorious God has entrusted to thy care. The other also said something similar. He said: We do not appoint to this position one who asks for it nor anyone who is covetous for the same.

Sahih Muslim
Book 33, Hadith 17

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*There are also other personality & character traits that would be looked for. Back in Texas we once had an Iraqi guy who was on the board of directors of the local mosque who one day proclaimed himself “Emir of [city name]”. He basically got himself laughed right off of the board.

84 b_sharp  Jun 29, 2014 4:03:46pm

re: #65 Gus

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Brevik did mention Little Green Footballs 9 times but it was mentioned in a negative context or about comments by someone other than Charles.

Edited to remove the wrap around count.

85 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 29, 2014 4:05:12pm

HURR HURR U WANT A PIECE OF US U MESSIKENS!!!! BRING IT!!!!

86 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 4:05:16pm

re: #84 b_sharp

Actually, to be precise Breivik didn’t mention me at all. All the links to LGF in his manifesto are in blog posts by other people that he included in the manifesto.

87 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 4:06:08pm
88 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 4:07:12pm

Wow. Googled the Diary of Assholes to find the source page of that fake graphic and my oh my. Went over to the stalker site and those people are actually crazier than ever.

89 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 29, 2014 4:07:44pm

re: #80 b_sharp

Page 635 in Brevik’s Manifesto
brevik’s manifesto

Just to be sure, the quoted text belongs to Fjordman, not Breivik.

90 thedopefishlives  Jun 29, 2014 4:07:54pm

re: #88 Gus

Wow. Googled the Diary of Assholes to find the source page of that fake graphic and my oh my. Went over to the stalker site and those people are actually crazier than ever.

The hate, it eats away at what little brain they might have left.

91 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 4:08:15pm

re: #87 Gus

Thanks Gus - you’re really doing yeoman’s work to push back on this. I appreciate it.

92 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 4:09:01pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

Thanks Gus - you’re really doing yeoman’s work to push back on this. I appreciate it.

You’re welcome. The stalkers are the scum of the Earth. As are these lowlife scumbag dudebros.

93 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 4:10:22pm

re: #89 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Just to be sure, the quoted text belongs to Fjordman, not Breivik.

Yes, that’s correct - but Breivik obviously included that post because he agreed with it.

94 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 29, 2014 4:10:42pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

Sure.

95 CuriousLurker  Jun 29, 2014 4:10:44pm

re: #88 Gus

Wow. Googled the Diary of Assholes to find the source page of that fake graphic and my oh my. Went over to the stalker site and those people are actually crazier than ever.

Stay away from there. I never go there anymore, even when they turn up in my Google alerts—it’ll kill your brain cells.

96 Lidane  Jun 29, 2014 4:10:56pm

re: #85 Pie-onist Overlord

Irony: Laredo and Nuevo Laredo were the same city until the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo ceded its land to the United States. The people in Laredo held a referendum and voted to petition the American military government that was in charge to return the town to Mexico. They were denied, so the bulk of the population went across the river and founded Nuevo Laredo.

97 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 29, 2014 4:12:49pm

As I recall, in the comments written by himself at some nationalist forum he praised Geller etc., never mentioning Charles.

98 Recreational Birth Control User  Jun 29, 2014 4:14:43pm

re: #72 Targetpractice

If I am not mistaken, flying the flag started during the civil war. It showed your support for the Union against the Confederates.

99 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 4:16:45pm

re: #95 CuriousLurker

Stay away from there. I never go there anymore, even when they turn up in my Google alerts—it’ll kill your brain cells.

Was really weird. The way they take so many screen shots of comments here. How they also keep track of everything on Twitter. Really small and inconsequential comments become blog posts. They’re insane.

100 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 4:20:12pm

re: #87 Gus

Wow. They actually cropped the bottom part of the image now to hide the fake “Stink Progress” logo.

That settles it. They know they’re lying.

101 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP  Jun 29, 2014 4:20:46pm

re: #99 Gus

Was really weird. The way they take so many screen shots of comments here. How they also keep track of everything on Twitter. Really small and inconsequential comments become blog posts. They’re insane.

They can’t spell “declaration,” either.

102 Iwouldprefernotto  Jun 29, 2014 4:21:19pm

OT Yesterday I left Brooklyn to visit family in CA (Orange County/LA). Also, the airport in Detroit is very nice for a stopover (thanks VB).

It’s feels great to be on vacation. Thanks.

103 Self Respecting Woman Voter Against the GOP  Jun 29, 2014 4:22:17pm

re: #101 Sionainn

They can’t spell “declaration,” either.

Nor Breivik.

104 thedopefishlives  Jun 29, 2014 4:22:37pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

Wow. They actually cropped the bottom part of the image now to hide the fake “Stink Progress” log.

That settles it. They know they’re lying.

I don’t think there was any doubt about that, to be honest. Honest people wouldn’t keep on shouting “LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU” and then re-repeating the same old debunked nonsense.

105 Recreational Birth Control User  Jun 29, 2014 4:23:31pm

re: #85 Pie-onist Overlord

Ha! Laredo Texas is 95.6% Latino/Hispanic , yet I only see non Latino/Hispanic in that group! There is definitely no subconscious white supremacist shit going on there. Nope. /

106 Varek Raith  Jun 29, 2014 4:24:29pm

re: #70 Gus

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A fucking men.

107 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 4:25:13pm

re: #106 Varek Raith

A fucking men.

Yep. And they are mostly white men. Funny, that.

108 Romantic Heretic  Jun 29, 2014 4:25:49pm

re: #57 Pie-onist Overlord

“JUST A PIECE OF CLOTH”? NO!! IT’S AN EXCUSE FOR US TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YOU!!!!”
Please explain to me how the Tea Party is different from ISIS?

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I hope she’s not a Christian. God has pretty definite views on idolatry.

109 Romantic Heretic  Jun 29, 2014 4:27:00pm

re: #63 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

It’s not just a piece of cloth, it’s an occasion for forced expressions of political fealty!

And these are the people who complain about “political correctness”.

They’re just complaining it’s not their type of political correctness.

110 CuriousLurker  Jun 29, 2014 4:28:32pm

re: #99 Gus

Yeah, apparently we live in their heads.

I decided a good long while ago that nothing I saw at that site would ever benefit or improve my life in any way. Since I have the power to effectively make them become non-existent, I basically erased them from my consciousness—I don’t go to their site or concern myself with their lies & exaggerations about me, I block & mute them on Twitter, etc.

It works. The only time I think of them now is if someone here mentions them. On the rare occasion that one of them gets through on Twitter, I just block & mute them without responding and…

Like magic—*POOF*—no more stalkers. Problem solved.

111 b_sharp  Jun 29, 2014 4:29:23pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

Actually, to be precise Breivik didn’t mention me at all. All the links to LGF in his manifesto are in blog posts by other people that he included in the manifesto.

I’m just trying to determine how the rwnj gets the number of mentions of LGF.

I looks like they did a search on Little Green Footballs and littlegreenfootballs.com and then added them up. I doubt they read the manifesto to see how you were spoken of. The only points I found were about how you changed teams.

The way the rwnjs did their research is typical of their methods, be as shallow as possible, ignore context and count every instance as supporting their point.

112 thedopefishlives  Jun 29, 2014 4:29:27pm

re: #110 CuriousLurker

Yeah, apparently we live in their heads.

I decided a good long while ago that nothing I saw at that site would ever benefit or improve my life in any way. Since I have the power to effectively make them become non-existent, I basically erased them from my consciousness—I don’t go to their site or concern myself with their lies & exaggerations about me, I block & mute them on Twitter, etc.

It works. The only time I think of them now is if someone here mentions them. On the rare occasion that one of them gets through on Twitter, I just block & mute them without responding and…

Like magic—*POOF*—no more stalkers. Problem solved.

It’s kinda like 9/11 Twoofers. Turn off the computer, and they may as well not even exist.

113 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 4:29:41pm

re: #110 CuriousLurker

Yeah, apparently we live in their heads.

I decided a good long while ago that nothing I saw at that site would ever benefit or improve my life in any way. Since I have the power to effectively make them become non-existent, I basically erased them from my consciousness—I don’t go to their site or concern myself with their lies & exaggerations about me, I block & mute them on Twitter, etc.

It works. The only time I think of them now is if someone here mentions them. On the rare occasion that one of them gets through on Twitter, I just block & mute them without responding and…

Like magic—*POOF*—no more stalkers. Problem solved.

I didn’t actually read the page. Just glazed over it and closed it before it even finished loading.

114 Lidane  Jun 29, 2014 4:29:50pm

re: #105 Keep Texas Prisons Rapey!1!1!1!!!

Ha! Laredo Texas is 95.6% Latino/Hispanic , yet I only see non Latino/Hispanic in that group! There is definitely no subconscious white supremacist shit going on there. Nope. /

I was about to say, that’s a very white photo for a bunch of folks that are citizens of Laredo.

115 CuriousLurker  Jun 29, 2014 4:29:55pm

re: #112 thedopefishlives

It’s kinda like 9/11 Twoofers. Turn off the computer, and they may as well not even exist.

Eggzaktly. ;)

116 b_sharp  Jun 29, 2014 4:30:44pm

re: #89 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Just to be sure, the quoted text belongs to Fjordman, not Breivik.

I corrected my comment.

117 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 4:30:53pm

Welp. My fake graphic Tweet already has more RTs than any of the derp Jason Leopold unloaded last night. :D

118 Stanley Sea  Jun 29, 2014 4:32:20pm

re: #85 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR U WANT A PIECE OF US U MESSIKENS!!!! BRING IT!!!!

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BAD ASSES!

Simpletons. Guess it makes them feel better? So if a kid and his mom stumble up to the barbed wire dying of thirst what are they gonna do? Shoot em?

119 thedopefishlives  Jun 29, 2014 4:32:30pm

re: #117 Gus

Welp. My fake graphic Tweet already has more RTs than any of the derp Jason Leopold unloaded last night. :D

This, right here, is what keeps them awake at night.

And I do NOT feel bad about that in the least.

120 Romantic Heretic  Jun 29, 2014 4:32:36pm

re: #67 blueraven

Anyway, who said the flag is just a piece of cloth?
It is a symbol for the USA and I rather like it. I always fly one and not because I feel like I have anything to prove. I like watching it wave in the breeze.

I am a liberal flag waver.

#SoSueMe

One of the things I notice when I’m in the States is the number of flags. They’re everywhere.

As a Canadian I find it a little strange and just a touch off-putting. Having to claim so loudly how much a person loves their country seems excessive and a little false. Protesting too much.

121 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 4:37:06pm
122 Kragar  Jun 29, 2014 4:38:08pm

re: #121 Gus

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because DRONEZ!

123 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 4:38:10pm

Related.

124 b.d.  Jun 29, 2014 4:38:47pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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I TOLD YOU I DON’T WORK FOR TRUTHOUT!!!! I WORK FOR:

Leopold is currently the US correspondent for 95bFM in Auckland, New Zealand.

en.wikipedia.org

bNet is a network of current and former student radio radio stations in New Zealand.
/snip
The station is based in the Student Union Building at the University of Auckland
en.wikipedia.org

125 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 29, 2014 4:38:59pm

re: #67 blueraven

Anyway, who said the flag is just a piece of cloth?
It is a symbol for the USA and I rather like it. I always fly one and not because I feel like I have anything to prove. I like watching it wave in the breeze.

I am a liberal flag waver.

#SoSueMe

Emphasis mine.

Amen. As a liberal veteran I have my flag out in front of my steps every day. I love watching it and I’ll admit to more than a bit of patriotism about it. Of course, for me, that’s why I defend the rights of anyone to do anything to it they want to. If anything, that freedom _is_ what it represents.

126 thedopefishlives  Jun 29, 2014 4:39:40pm

re: #121 Gus

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I’d love to see how they justify arguing that passive support for drone warfare automatically makes one’s hands bloody. Then again, I’m not certain I’d be able to comprehend the magnitude of the derp.

127 b.d.  Jun 29, 2014 4:41:20pm
128 bratwurst  Jun 29, 2014 4:43:02pm

re: #121 Gus

Let’s get together and bowl with that guy to find some common ground and break the hyper partisan chain! /

129 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 29, 2014 4:45:45pm

re: #120 Romantic Heretic

As a Canadian I find it a little strange and just a touch off-putting. Having to claim so loudly how much a person loves their country seems excessive and a little false. Protesting too much.

As usual, it all depends on context. Is it a time of crisis? (See Ukrainian photos with flags). Is it the “in yo face”/”mindless” thing or is it the “true respect” thing? Etc.

I wonder how frequent the US flags are in the South btw.

130 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 4:45:54pm
131 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 4:47:42pm

Short list of assholes here.

132 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 29, 2014 4:48:17pm

re: #130 Gus

Love the “Alleged Journalist” bit. Excellent line that I have to remember when dealing with dudebros over at NPR.

133 Killgore Trout  Jun 29, 2014 4:56:01pm

re: #83 CuriousLurker

It’s also not something you just wave your magic wand and declare. You’re basically saying that you’re creating an Islamic state, therefore you’d need to be prepared to provide everything that implies—a functioning government with judges & courts, local representatives (governors, mayors, etc.), law enforcement & other first responders, hospitals, schools, etc.

Also, and perhaps just as importantly, the Caliph would need to be someone who neither asks for nor is covetous of the position. Good luck with that.*

—————————————————

*There are also other personality & character traits that would be looked for. Back in Texas we once had an Iraqi guy who was on the board of directors of the local mosque who one day proclaimed himself “Emir of [city name]”. He basically got himself laughed right off of the board.

I’m just happy this guy isn;t getting his own caliphate
A BARMY hate preacher has a “Hitler-like” vision of a British Islamic state where Christians have to shave their heads and ride donkeys.

“The kaffir has to have his forehead shaved, and he has to wear two shoes that are different from one another.”

134 blueraven  Jun 29, 2014 4:58:36pm

re: #120 Romantic Heretic

One of the things I notice when I’m in the States is the number of flags. They’re everywhere.

As a Canadian I find it a little strange and just a touch off-putting. Having to claim so loudly how much a person loves their country seems excessive and a little false. Protesting too much.

To each his own. I fly it because I like to, not because I need to prove anything to anyone. Yes, I do love my country but I also admit there are many things we have done as a nation that I am NOT proud of. Vietnam, Iraq, Jim Crow, Slavery…to name a few.

I fly it for all the brave people who fought and died, even in a “dumb war”. Maybe especially for them. I fly it to remind myself of the ideal of America.

I have hardly any neighbors and live at the end of nowhere. There is no passing traffic. So it is not for others that I fly the flag, it is for me.

One should not be judged on whether or not they choose to fly a flag.

135 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 29, 2014 4:58:53pm

re: #129 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

As usual, it all depends on context. Is it a time of crisis? (See Ukrainian photos with flags). Is it the “in yo face”/”mindless” thing or is it the “true respect” thing? Etc.

I wonder how frequent the US flags are in the South btw.

I’ve seen many a US flag next to a Confederate flag in the south when I’ve had to be there. Makes me want to see the 1st Armor and 1st Infantry make a “commemorative” Road March from Atlanta to Savannah on November 15 to December 21, 2014 … ;)

136 makeitstop  Jun 29, 2014 5:02:45pm

This turned up on a FB friend’s feed. He was actually at the show prior to the incident.

Man shot, killed outside Cedar Park gun show

(Apologies if it’s already been posted.)

137 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 5:07:55pm

re: #121 Gus

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Remember “pharmmajor?” That’s him. He’s had probably a dozen Twitter accounts - keeps getting suspended for that kind of shit.

138 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 5:09:00pm
139 dog philosopher  Jun 29, 2014 5:09:20pm

caliphate

i officially declare it to be the 14th century

140 Varek Raith  Jun 29, 2014 5:09:23pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Remember “pharmmajor?” That’s him. He’s had probably a dozen Twitter accounts - keeps getting suspended for that kind of shit.

Ha!

141 Varek Raith  Jun 29, 2014 5:13:12pm

re: #139 dog philosopher

caliphate

i officially declare it to be the 14th century

Motion passed.
LA GOP candidate for Congress: Climate change is a hoax, can be disproved with thermometer

142 Stanley Sea  Jun 29, 2014 5:13:44pm
143 Killgore Trout  Jun 29, 2014 5:18:40pm

Pew(!) is trying for a more nuanced approach to the left-right thing. I really hate the quiz but went through it anyways.
Political Typology Quiz

I came out as Next Generation Left
along with 12% of the public.

144 Stanley Sea  Jun 29, 2014 5:19:01pm

On CNN tonight.

145 Killgore Trout  Jun 29, 2014 5:20:05pm

re: #139 dog philosopher

caliphate

i officially declare it to be the 14th century

I don’t care what your calendar says, I’m not wearing mismatched shoes or riding a donkey.

146 BongCrodny  Jun 29, 2014 5:20:06pm

re: #136 makeitstop

This turned up on a FB friend’s feed. He was actually at the show prior to the incident.

Man shot, killed outside Cedar Park gun show

(Apologies if it’s already been posted.)

KXAN spoke to the show’s owner who said that, in more than 42 years presenting the show, nothing like this has ever happened.

From the earlier “woman shot at gun show” story:

Koehler said Saturday’s shooting was the first at any show he has held at the fairgrounds or anywhere else.

147 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 29, 2014 5:20:13pm

HURR HURR DON’T EVER DATE MY DAUGHTER CAUSE SHE’LL SHOOT YA IF YA BREAK UP WITH HER!!!!!!!!

148 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 5:21:09pm

Oh boy.

149 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 29, 2014 5:22:56pm

Todd Starnes is butthurt that non-Christians & non-whites are attending Virginia kindergartens:

150 dog philosopher  Jun 29, 2014 5:25:12pm

singular value decomposition

something to do with factoring a matrix

beyond that i can’t make head or tail outta it

151 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 29, 2014 5:25:22pm

re: #143 Killgore Trout

That’s beyond bad as a test of anything real. Let me know if they ever put up something useful to someone past 6th grade civics classes.

152 dog philosopher  Jun 29, 2014 5:26:45pm

re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord

teach your daughters to shoot

because the army ain’t protecting the women there from getting raped

oh wait

153 Lidane  Jun 29, 2014 5:26:47pm

re: #149 Pie-onist Overlord

I know that he’s a real person and he’s actually that deranged, but every time I read anything about Todd Starnes he comes across as a RWNJ parody.

154 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 29, 2014 5:30:13pm

Here is some evening cuteness, just a’floatin’

155 MomSense  Jun 29, 2014 5:30:26pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

Can’t you sue them? This is getting beyond ridiculous the way they use defamation as a tactic.

156 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 5:30:59pm

157 Killgore Trout  Jun 29, 2014 5:33:04pm

re: #151 William Barnett-Lewis

That’s beyond bad as a test of anything real. Let me know if they ever put up something useful to someone past 6th grade civics classes.

Yeah, the test stinks but I thought the categories were interesting.

158 CuriousLurker  Jun 29, 2014 5:33:32pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

I’m just happy this guy isn;t getting his own caliphate
A BARMY hate preacher has a “Hitler-like” vision of a British Islamic state where Christians have to shave their heads and ride donkeys.

Why are you even posting that? The guy is clearly unhinged. Ah, I see—videos courtesy of MEMRI. Nice going, KT.

Contrary to what Geller & others claim about “devout” Muslims (she loves using that word) rank antisemitism, hateful speech, suicide bombing, killing innocent civilians, kidnapping & beheading people, crucifying them, etc. are not things that are considered “righteous” or in any way even remotely acceptable to the vast majority of the world’s Muslims.

Mark my words, it’s only a matter of time until the historical revisionists twist things around in order to make Muslim responsible for the Holocaust—i.e. they’ll assert that the Nazis learned their “Jew hate” from devout Muslims.

Oh, and a little piece of unsolicited advice: The number of links you post every day to Muslim extremist and/or terrorist outrageous outrages indicates that you spend an inordinate amount of time thinking of & seeking news stories about them. it’s unhealthy to allow them to live inside your head like that.

Stanley Sea hits the nail right on the head when she calls it “terror porn”.

159 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 5:33:54pm
160 dog philosopher  Jun 29, 2014 5:34:48pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

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the Moron Research Institute is now accepting submissions to be peer reviewed and published

161 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 5:36:26pm

Please retweet that one, if you would, folks. They’re really going all out with this shit and I’m sick and tired of it.

162 Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2014 5:44:22pm

re: #147 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR DON’T EVER DATE MY DAUGHTER CAUSE SHE’LL SHOOT YA IF YA BREAK UP WITH HER!!!!!!!!

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Yes, teach your daughter to shoot so that her ex knows where the gun is and doesn’t have to bother with buying one.

163 CuriousLurker  Jun 29, 2014 5:44:32pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

LOL, oh boy—so you linked to the UK version of the National Enquirer, huh? Here’s one of their covers, courtesy of Wikipedia.

Daily Star—UK tabloid newspaper

164 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 5:46:39pm

It appears that now this Dan Verg idiot is having a meltdown.

165 Killgore Trout  Jun 29, 2014 5:47:21pm

re: #158 CuriousLurker

Why are you even posting that? The guy is clearly unhinged. Ah, I see—videos courtesy of MEMRI. Nice going, KT.

Contrary to what Geller & others claim about “devout” Muslims (she loves using that word) rank antisemitism, hateful speech, suicide bombing, killing innocent civilians, kidnapping & beheading people, crucifying them, etc. are not things that are considered “righteous” or in any way even remotely acceptable to the vast majority of the world’s Muslims.

Mark my words, it’s only a matter of time until the historical revisionists twist things around in order to make Muslim responsible for the Holocaust—i.e. they’ll assert that the Nazis learned their “Jew hate” from devout Muslims.

Oh, and a little piece of unsolicited advice: The number of links you post every day to Muslim extremist and/or terrorist outrageous outrages indicates that you spend an inordinate amount of time thinking of & seeking news stories about them. it’s unhealthy to allow them to live inside your head like that.

Stanley Sea hits the nail right on the head when she calls it “terror porn”.

Although he’s a bufoon and possibly mentally ill he does present a problem in that he’s recruiting young Muslims in Britain to join ISIS

The preacher from banned group Need4khilafah was spotted at a barbecue in Cardiff where militants waved the banner of the militant group Isis. Reyaad Khan, Nasser Muthana, both 20, and Muthana’s 17-year-old brother Aseel were seen handing out leaflets for a group linked to Waleed outside a mosque in the city.

Although I highlighted the goofy parts of the story it’s a serious concern for the UK, Europe, Australia and even Obama.

Obama warns of risks posed by Syrian militants with Western passports

166 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2014 5:52:34pm
167 Decatur Deb  Jun 29, 2014 5:52:55pm

re: #148 Gus

This is not real news folks. It’s fake news.
Oh boy.

White Supremacist Lynches Himself after Learning of His Black Ancestry

Let’s not dismiss the principle out of hand.

168 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 5:53:14pm

re: #164 Gus

It appears that now this Dan Verg idiot is having a meltdown.

Fully expected.

169 CuriousLurker  Jun 29, 2014 5:53:45pm

re: #165 Killgore Trout

Sorry, but you already tipped your hand, so despite the link to the much more respectable LA Times article, there’s no way in hell I’m going to waste time and effort attempting to have an honest conversation with you now.

170 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 5:54:09pm

re: #158 CuriousLurker

This is a hard lesson I learned. Some people apparently haven’t.

171 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 29, 2014 5:57:23pm

re: #165 Killgore Trout

Your concern is noted.

172 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 29, 2014 5:58:42pm

coughconcerntrollcough

173 Lidane  Jun 29, 2014 5:58:46pm

re: #165 Killgore Trout

You know, I really don’t care if you get off on terror porn. It’s your sex life. I just don’t need to know about your kinks.

174 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 29, 2014 5:59:50pm

re: #165 Killgore Trout

It’d be easy to take you seriously if you hadn’t revealed that, after years and years and years about posting about Muslims and the danger they present to us and the Middle East, you didn’t even know what a Sufi was.

You’re just not at all credible.

175 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 29, 2014 6:00:02pm

re: #158 CuriousLurker

Stanley Sea hits the nail right on the head when she calls it “terror porn”.

No different than when he gets all excited in a really perverted way at protesters, especially young female protesters, being abused by authorities.

I’d post my “Dead Horse” gif again but I doubt that’s what is being beaten… :(

176 Lidane  Jun 29, 2014 6:02:33pm

re: #174 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

It’d be easy to take you seriously if you hadn’t revealed that, after years and years and years about posting about Muslims and the danger they present to us and the Middle East, you didn’t even know what a Sufi was.

You’re just not at all credible.

What’s even stupider about that is that IIRC, Dr. Lizardo is a Sufi. You’d think it would be as simple as asking the right questions.

177 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 6:02:59pm

Yep. He’s lost his mind.

178 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 29, 2014 6:03:51pm

Home after a 6 hour drive from my brother’s place back to Philly. Need to grocery shop to refill the larder — and will do that tomorrow.

Time for a cup of tea and a nice sit with the Feline Overlords.

And obligatory cat photo from the trip. It’s the shed-cat known as Alfredo.

Put down the camera and give me pets!

179 kirkspencer  Jun 29, 2014 6:06:55pm

re: #135 William Barnett-Lewis

I’ve seen many a US flag next to a Confederate flag in the south when I’ve had to be there. Makes me want to see the 1st Armor and 1st Infantry make a “commemorative” Road March from Atlanta to Savannah on November 15 to December 21, 2014 … ;)

An hour passed, and nobody beat me in responding to this with the obvious?

Youtube Video

180 Killgore Trout  Jun 29, 2014 6:07:09pm

re: #169 CuriousLurker

Sorry, but you already tipped your hand, so despite the link to the much more respectable LA Times article, there’s no way in hell I’m going to waste time and effort attempting to have an honest conversation with you now.

The Welsh Muslim community it worried as well.
Bans on extremist preachers are driving them underground, warns director of the Muslim Council for Wales
Since the groups are recently banned by the government for supporting terrorism they’re now having underground recruitment events.

181 kirkspencer  Jun 29, 2014 6:07:55pm

re: #149 Pie-onist Overlord

Yes, Todd Starnes. Yes we do, and it is one of many things we are proud to ‘own’.

182 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 29, 2014 6:08:18pm

re: #176 Lidane

What’s even stupider about that is that IIRC, Dr. Lizardo is a Sufi. You’d think it would be as simple as asking the right questions.

All you have to do is be honestly curious enough to look it up in Wikipedia, like, once.

183 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 29, 2014 6:08:43pm

re: #179 kirkspencer

Alas, DF’s not here. I expected him to take up the conductor’s baton :)

184 Killgore Trout  Jun 29, 2014 6:09:07pm

re: #176 Lidane

What’s even stupider about that is that IIRC, Dr. Lizardo is a Sufi. You’d think it would be as simple as asking the right questions.

I’m well aware of what a Sufi is. I lived a few blocks away from a sufi community center when I lived in Greece as a kid.

185 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 6:11:15pm

He even looks a little bit like “Rodan.” Weird. Lefty.

186 Tor  Jun 29, 2014 6:11:27pm

re: #182 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

All you have to do is be honestly curious enough to look it up in Wikipedia, like, once.

But then he wouldn’t have caused any outrage to feel smug and superior over.

//

187 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 29, 2014 6:12:02pm

re: #184 Killgore Trout

I’m well aware of what a Sufi is. I lived a few blocks away from a sufi community center when I lived in Greece as a kid.

You demonstrated that you didn’t know what the fuck a Sufi was in a conversation with Dr. Lizardo: you weren’t aware that they could either be Sunni or Shi’ite.

Just pretending your fuckups didn’t happen isn’t working.

188 kirkspencer  Jun 29, 2014 6:12:22pm

re: #180 Killgore Trout

The Welsh Muslim community it worried as well.
Bans on extremist preachers are driving them underground, warns director of the Muslim Council for Wales
Since the groups are recently banned by the government for supporting terrorism they’re now having underground recruitment events.

You do know you’re referencing the Western Mail, right?

um, do you know what the Western Mail is, without googling?

189 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 29, 2014 6:20:15pm

littlegreenfootballs.com

190 CuriousLurker  Jun 29, 2014 6:21:16pm

re: #180 Killgore Trout

The Welsh Muslim community it worried as well.
Bans on extremist preachers are driving them underground, warns director of the Muslim Council for Wales
Since the groups are recently banned by the government for supporting terrorism they’re now having underground recruitment events.

And on that note, I’m done for today.

G’nite, lizards. ;o)

191 bratwurst  Jun 29, 2014 6:21:39pm

re: #187 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

You demonstrated that you didn’t know what the fuck a Sufi was in a conversation with Dr. Lizardo: you weren’t aware that they could either be Sunni or Shi’ite.

Just pretending your fuckups didn’t happen isn’t working.

He also now tries to claim that it was a typo or something when he, in reality, seemed legitimately confused about the whole Russian vs Ukrainian thing here and here.

192 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 6:21:43pm
193 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 6:23:50pm

re: #185 Gus

He even looks a little bit like “Rodan.” Weird. Lefty.

There’s something seriously wrong with people like this. They’re mentally ill, and they use the Internet like a weapon against those they see as enemies.

194 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 29, 2014 6:25:17pm

Anyone any good at identifying beetles?

Beetle - not familiar with the species

(Of course I expect to be told it’s not a beetle.)

195 Killgore Trout  Jun 29, 2014 6:26:21pm

re: #189 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

littlegreenfootballs.com

I really hesitate to reply to stalkers because it excites them but yes, this is what I said…

Poor Suffis get the short end of the stick when fundamentalists get going. Shia hate the Sunnis, Sunnis hate the Shia, everybody hates the Suffis.

I’m well aware that they are distinct groups and Sufis are often the first targets of fundamentalists. But I’m well aware your ability to not understand far surpasses my ability to keep explaining it to you. I know you’ll keep repeating the lie even more often now that I’ve rewarded you with a response. Keep stalking and begging for my attention, I know you will.

196 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2014 6:26:24pm

re: #194 Feline Fearless Leader

Anyone any good at identifying beetles?

Beetle - not familiar with the species

(Of course I expect to be told it’s not a beetle.)

no idea. But it’s pretty.

197 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 6:26:43pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

There’s something seriously wrong with people like this. They’re mentally ill, and they use the Internet like a weapon against those they see as enemies.

Yeah, he’s a lunatic that’s for sure. A real troll. Had him blocked from a while ago.

198 Varek Raith  Jun 29, 2014 6:26:53pm

re: #194 Feline Fearless Leader

Anyone any good at identifying beetles?

Beetle - not familiar with the species

(Of course I expect to be told it’s not a beetle.)

It’ll eat you.

199 Tor  Jun 29, 2014 6:28:06pm

re: #195 Killgore Trout

I really hesitate to reply to stalkers because it excites them but yes, this is what I said…

You keep using that word.

I do not think it means what you think it means.

200 b_sharp  Jun 29, 2014 6:28:44pm

re: #194 Feline Fearless Leader

Anyone any good at identifying beetles?

Beetle - not familiar with the species

(Of course I expect to be told it’s not a beetle.)

George

Looks stoned.

Should have said psychedelic

201 darthstar  Jun 29, 2014 6:29:13pm

re: #194 Feline Fearless Leader

Anyone any good at identifying beetles?

Beetle - not familiar with the species

(Of course I expect to be told it’s not a beetle.)

It’s a bug.

202 Killgore Trout  Jun 29, 2014 6:30:17pm

re: #199 The Awkward Guy

You keep using that word.

I do not think it means what you think it means.

Sure I do. Do you know DoD was originally called “Killgore Free Footballs”? I’ve had plenty of obsessed stalker over the years here at LGF. I’ve become accustomed to it.

203 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 6:30:51pm

Hey Charles. This him? nametheproblem.com

204 Varek Raith  Jun 29, 2014 6:31:32pm

Wow, for reals KT?

205 Tor  Jun 29, 2014 6:33:06pm

…

206 lawhawk  Jun 29, 2014 6:33:20pm

re: #85 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR U WANT A PIECE OF US U MESSIKENS!!!! BRING IT!!!!

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Wait, you mean all it takes is a few spools of barb wire to keep the evil non-Americans out? Seriously?

These numbnuts seem to ignore that there are drug lords and human traffickers who will tunnel under the steel fencing in places along the border in CA, TX, AZ, and NM and barbed wire will simply be cut. It’s not a deterrent to those determined to force their way in. It’ll make them feel good for all of 5 minutes, but will have no effect in the long run.

207 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 29, 2014 6:33:40pm

Heh. :) Beatle jokes abound.

Some net searching indicates that it might be some variety of lichen or smoky moth. Still pretty looking.

(Edit: Virginia Ctenucha Moth)
aprairiehaven.com

208 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 6:34:32pm

re: #202 Killgore Trout

Really not appreciating this.

209 Tor  Jun 29, 2014 6:34:37pm

re: #202 Killgore Trout

What is this I don’t even

210 Stanley Sea  Jun 29, 2014 6:35:23pm

Idiocy.

211 kirkspencer  Jun 29, 2014 6:35:33pm

re: #192 Gus

For idle amusement, if you word search The Blind Watchman you will discover the word Jesus is used once. And that’s not the quote.

Sometimes clouds, through the random kneading and carving of the winds, come to look like familiar objects. There is a much published photograph, taken by the pilot of a small aeroplane, of what looks a bit like the face of Jesus, staring out of the sky. We have all seen clouds that reminded us of something - a sea horse, say, or a smiling face. — pp 45-46

212 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 6:38:16pm

Hey hey hey! Calm down! Here, some levity for the thread.

213 lawhawk  Jun 29, 2014 6:38:23pm

re: #158 CuriousLurker

They’ve indeed tried that route (claiming the Nazis learned the anti-Semitic hate from Muslims); it’s about the links between the Grand Mufti and the Nazis before WWII. There were indeed common goals and trying to hem in the British who controlled the Middle East along with the French after the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire.

What’s ignored by those folks is that Hitler came to his anti-Jewish hatred independent of any Muslim influence. And anti-Semitism had a long history independent of Muslim influence in Germany and Austria going back hundreds of years. That he found common cause with the Mufti isn’t surprising considering their shared goals of thwarting the British.

214 Killgore Trout  Jun 29, 2014 6:38:31pm

re: #202 Killgore Trout

Sure I do. Do you know DoD was originally called “Killgore Free Footballs”? I’ve had plenty of obsessed stalker over the years here at LGF. I’ve become accustomed to it.

…and Barrett Brown posted a video once asking people for my personal information. I forgot about that one.

215 Killgore Trout  Jun 29, 2014 6:39:41pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

Really not appreciating this.

Ok, I’ll drop it.

216 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 6:40:44pm

And now…

217 Decatur Deb  Jun 29, 2014 6:41:13pm

re: #151 William Barnett-Lewis

That’s beyond bad as a test of anything real. Let me know if they ever put up something useful to someone past 6th grade civics classes.

Solid Liberal, with 15% of the cohort. (Which is what I would have claimed in 1965.)

218 Belafon  Jun 29, 2014 6:41:33pm

re: #202 Killgore Trout

Did you know it only takes 15 7.5 minutes to get car insurance?

219 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 6:41:58pm

re: #216 Charles Johnson

And now…

[Embedded content]

He RT’d this.

220 Varek Raith  Jun 29, 2014 6:42:01pm

re: #218 Belafon

Did you know it only takes 15 7.5 minutes to get car insurance?

I unfriend you.

221 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 6:42:23pm
222 Romantic Heretic  Jun 29, 2014 6:43:45pm

re: #141 Varek Raith

Motion passed.
LA GOP candidate for Congress: Climate change is a hoax, can be disproved with thermometer

I look at the picture of her included and think, “What a fake! A forty year old face on a sixty five year old neck.”

Anyone that vain should not be holding public office.

223 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 6:44:10pm

Really trying hard to avoid the urge to tell Robbie Martin what an absolutely shitty musician he is.

224 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 6:44:15pm

re: #215 Killgore Trout

Ok, I’ll drop it.

Garden, food, plants, frogs, toads, music.

225 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 6:44:27pm

I’m really trying here.

226 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 29, 2014 6:45:11pm

re: #217 Decatur Deb

Decatur Deb -
While in the Canadian War Museum in Ottawa I came across a section where they’d saved sections with nose art from RCAF Halifax planes that were going to be scrapped right after the war. Plus a nose art picture from the Lancaster at the Canadian Air and Space Museum.

227 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 6:46:11pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

Really trying hard to avoid the urge to tell Robbie Martin what an absolutely shitty musician he is.

He can always check Diary of Daedelus in about 10 minutes when they’ve screenshotted this comment.

///////

228 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 29, 2014 6:46:21pm

re: #217 Decatur Deb

That’s what I got. It’s meaningless especially since my actual political sentiment is far harder left than that.

229 sattv4u2  Jun 29, 2014 6:46:52pm

re: #220 Varek Raith

I unfriend you.

Thats not how this works

Thats not how ANY of this works!!
/

230 Decatur Deb  Jun 29, 2014 6:47:23pm

re: #220 Varek Raith

I unfriend you.

That’s not how this works.

231 sattv4u2  Jun 29, 2014 6:47:47pm

re: #224 Gus

Garden, food, plants, frogs, toads, music.

We haven’t had a good boob thread in a long time!!

232 Killgore Trout  Jun 29, 2014 6:48:40pm

re: #231 sattv4u2

We haven’t had a good boob thread in a long time!!

Don’t make me bring back “Bollywood clip of the day”.

233 Recreational Birth Control User  Jun 29, 2014 6:50:15pm

re: #123 Gus

Eddie Love @EddieLove44 * 2h

@jeremyduns
Obama — who will relinquish his authority in 2 years — is a fascist, Putin - who never has — is our best hope for freedom

Wow.

234 jaunte  Jun 29, 2014 6:50:16pm

Excluded middle.

235 Decatur Deb  Jun 29, 2014 6:50:42pm

re: #226 Feline Fearless Leader

Decatur Deb -
While in the Canadian War Museum in Ottawa I came across a section where they’d saved sections with nose art from RCAF Halifax planes that were going to be scrapped right after the war. Plus a nose art picture from the Lancaster at the Canadian Air and Space Museum.

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Never actually seen the art on the nose of the Deb, only on a surviving A2 jacket. Always wondered if it was a nude painted into skimpy clothes during an 8th Air Force cleanup.

236 lawhawk  Jun 29, 2014 6:51:04pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

Really trying hard to avoid the urge to tell Robbie Martin what an absolutely shitty musician he is.

Who? Not worth the effort.

237 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 6:51:37pm

re: #233 Keep Texas Prisons Rapey!1!1!1!!!

Wow.

Sarcasm.

238 sattv4u2  Jun 29, 2014 6:52:12pm

re: #232 Killgore Trout

Don’t make me bring back “Bollywood clip of the day”.

heh

At work, we just added two “Bollywood” channels to our distribution lineup for cable companies to take

239 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 6:55:40pm

I don’t understand all the hate, vitriol and slander that befalls Charles regularly. I mean, I thought this site was irrelevant!

IRRELLLEVANNTTT!!!!

240 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 29, 2014 6:56:33pm

re: #232 Killgore Trout

Don’t make me bring back “Bollywood clip of the day”.

Start finding clips from this.
en.wikipedia.org

241 Gus  Jun 29, 2014 6:57:19pm
242 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 29, 2014 6:57:34pm

re: #195 Killgore Trout

I really hesitate to reply to stalkers because it excites them but yes, this is what I said…

I’m well aware that they are distinct groups and Sufis are often the first targets of fundamentalists.

They aren’t distinct groups. Sufis are not distinct from Sunni or Shi’ite’. This is the thing you are wrong about.

Fundamentalist Sunni also hate non-fundamentalist Sunni, and fundamentalist Shi-ite also hate non-fundamentalist Shi-‘ite. The religious police in Saudi Arabia don’t go “Oh, wait, that woman is a Sunni, I guess she’s okay.”

. I know you’ll keep repeating the lie even more often now that I’ve rewarded you with a response. Keep stalking and begging for my attention, I know you will.

Killgore, you say a lot of things that are wrong, other things that are so wrong you have to be trolling, and generally act like an asshole. I have no interest in your person life, your real name, or anything about you. I have no interest if you post on any other website: I couldn’t give less of a shit. What I’d actually love is for you to either start using your brain for more than sulking and stop your Drudge-style posting. Failing that, I’d love for you to just not shit up threads with your dumbassery and wastes of time.

I’m not a stalker. I’m a person who posts on the same website as you who thinks you’re a dishonest jerk with a real nasty side. Deal with it, and quit whining about being ‘stalked’ because I reply to your comments. It’s hard to think of something more pathetic.

243 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 6:58:31pm

Douche canoe dough boy can’t be bothered with facts!

244 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 29, 2014 6:58:35pm

Holy double posting batman.

245 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 29, 2014 6:58:48pm

re: #224 Gus

Garden, food, plants, frogs, toads, music.

246 FemNaziBitch  Jun 29, 2014 6:58:50pm

how is it now?

247 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 6:59:07pm
248 FemNaziBitch  Jun 29, 2014 7:00:35pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

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Like street harassment?

Yeah, all jokes are just jokes.

249 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 7:08:29pm

And now the people who haven’t followed any of this are weighing in.

250 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 29, 2014 7:10:27pm

re: #249 Charles Johnson

And now the people who haven’t followed any of this are weighing in.

Twitter is a good place for Extremely Uninformed But Passionate Debate.

251 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 7:10:29pm

Classic.

“Pharmmajor” just tried to create an account.

252 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 7:11:43pm

Submitted without comment:

“Did America owe something to the slaves whose labor had been stolen? I think so, but that debt is best discharged through memory, because the slaves are dead and their descendants are better off as a consequence of their ancestors being hauled from Africa to America,”

-Dinesh D’Souza

253 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 7:12:10pm

The loons are out tonight.

254 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 7:12:53pm

It really gets them worked up when I defend myself against their smears.

I’ll have to do this more often.

255 Recreational Birth Control User  Jun 29, 2014 7:13:27pm

re: #194 Feline Fearless Leader

Anyone any good at identifying beetles?

Beetle - not familiar with the species

(Of course I expect to be told it’s not a beetle.)

This site might help

256 Recreational Birth Control User  Jun 29, 2014 7:15:53pm

re: #237 Gus

Ha! Ooops. Oh ok. Thank you, because it makes more sense now.
(there is pretty much the Benny Hill theme song going on in my head 24/7!)

257 b_sharp  Jun 29, 2014 7:15:57pm

re: #250 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Twitter is a good place for Extremely Uninformed But Passionate Debate.

There is some informed, one sided, debate as well.

258 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 29, 2014 7:17:06pm

re: #253 Charles Johnson

The loons are out tonight.

Does a New Moon get them just as worked up as a Full Moon?

259 Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 29, 2014 7:17:37pm

re: #255 Keep Texas Prisons Rapey!1!1!1!!!

This site might help

I found it. It was a Ctenucha virginica.
en.wikipedia.org

260 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 29, 2014 7:18:02pm

Gun-fucking Meme of the Day

261 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 29, 2014 7:19:13pm

No, THIS is the gun-fucking Meme of the Day

262 Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2014 7:20:19pm

re: #260 Pie-onist Overlord

Gun-fucking Meme of the Day

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Hey now, there’s some truth to it. All that training made sure that Adam Lanza didn’t fumble his reloads or miss his targets.

263 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 29, 2014 7:20:26pm

re: #202 Killgore Trout

Sure I do. Do you know DoD was originally called “Killgore Free Footballs”? I’ve had plenty of obsessed stalker over the years here at LGF. I’ve become accustomed to it.

Don’t flatter yourself. Nobody is obsessed or stalking you. When you deliberately try to derail threads here, post hit-and-run war porn from dubious sources, without any commentary whatsoever, and show no interest in actually making constructive contributions in the years you’ve been here, people are going to notice. And they will let you know when they are tired of your concern-trolling bullshit. That’s not obsessive stalking. Want to know what that is? Ask Charles. He can tell you all about it. Stop trying to look like a victim. You have control over what you post. The fact it’s been useless all these years is something you should think about when you ask yourself why exactly you’re here in the first place.

264 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 7:21:16pm

re: #260 Pie-onist Overlord

re: #261 Pie-onist Overlord

Gun fuckers - in the end - just want to shoot another human being, y’know, to see what it feels like. In other words, psychotic.

265 Lidane  Jun 29, 2014 7:21:37pm

re: #252 teleskiguy

Typical RWNJ defense of slavery. Pathetic.

266 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 7:24:28pm

From the same fucker who massaged Dinesh D’Souza’s balls with a warm wet rag (see comment #252, this thread):

267 Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2014 7:25:04pm

re: #261 Pie-onist Overlord

No, THIS is the gun-fucking Meme of the Day

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It’s a rather neat and tidy staged photo, but that’s about it. A realistic one would be her fumbling in her jacket for her gun while trying to avoid dropping her child.

268 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 29, 2014 7:26:58pm

re: #267 Targetpractice

It’s a rather neat and tidy staged photo, but that’s about it. A realistic one would be her fumbling in her jacket for her gun while trying to avoid dropping her child.

She’d put the kid down in order to take out her gun and he would run right into the line of fire.

269 Timothy Watson  Jun 29, 2014 7:28:16pm

re: #252 teleskiguy

Submitted without comment:

Still using that John C. Calhoun logic/rhetoric.

270 Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2014 7:28:37pm
271 Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2014 7:29:02pm

re: #266 teleskiguy

From the same fucker who massaged Dinesh D’Souza’s balls with a warm wet rag (see comment #252, this thread):

[Embedded content]

What “lawsuit”? The fantasy that Boehner sold to wingnuts so they’d stop breaking his balls over being the most ineffectual speaker ever?

272 b.d.  Jun 29, 2014 7:30:46pm

Do all dudebros start out as jerkish assholes or does dudebroism turn them into one?

273 b.d.  Jun 29, 2014 7:33:06pm

re: #271 Targetpractice

What “lawsuit”? The fantasy that Boehner sold to wingnuts so they’d stop breaking his balls over being the most ineffectual speaker ever?

WE’LL GET OBAMA TO TESTIFY ABOUT SOMETHING, CATCH HIM PERJURING HIMSELF THEN INPEACH HIM! JUST LIKE LAST TIME!

274 calochortus  Jun 29, 2014 7:33:27pm

re: #268 Pie-onist Overlord

She’d put the kid down in order to take out her gun and he would run right into the line of fire.

I’ve never fired a gun in my life, but aren’t you supposed to brace the hand holding the gun to avoid being hit in the forehead when you fire said gun? Kind of hard with your left arm full of kid.

275 Belafon  Jun 29, 2014 7:35:09pm

re: #274 calochortus

I always thought it was more about stabilizing an arm stretched out holding a weight.

276 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 7:35:15pm

re: #272 b.d.

Do all dudebros start out as jerkish assholes or does dudebroism turn them into one?

Ah, the old “nature vs. nurture” argument. Want to bet a dollar à la Winthorpe brothers?

277 Recreational Birth Control User  Jun 29, 2014 7:35:44pm

re: #261 Pie-onist Overlord

I swear they want America to be a $#$@% Tarantino movie so badly.
They just can’t wait to try out the skills they have honed on Call of Duty!

278 calochortus  Jun 29, 2014 7:36:07pm

re: #275 Belafon

I always thought it was more about stabilizing an arm stretched out holding a weight.

Maybe it’s just with larger handguns that you get the kickback. Like I said, I know nothing about the entire topic of guns.

279 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 7:36:20pm

re: #274 calochortus

I’ve never fired a gun in my life, but aren’t you supposed to brace the hand holding the gun to avoid being hit in the forehead when you fire said gun? Kind of hard with your left arm full of kid.

First time I fired a high-powered rifle, it recoiled and the scope hit me in the forehead. Left a scar still visible today.

280 calochortus  Jun 29, 2014 7:37:50pm

re: #279 teleskiguy

Ouch.

281 b.d.  Jun 29, 2014 7:38:22pm

re: #276 teleskiguy

Ah, the old “nature vs. nurture” argument. Want to bet a dollar à la Winthorpe brothers?

Hahahahaha, somehow I just imagined Greenwald in a gorilla suit.

282 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 29, 2014 7:39:45pm

re: #274 calochortus

I’ve never fired a gun in my life, but aren’t you supposed to brace the hand holding the gun to avoid being hit in the forehead when you fire said gun? Kind of hard with your left arm full of kid.

Only some of the most insanely over powered hand guns require that. 99% of hand guns can be easily and safely fired with one hand. My usual practice routine include shooting single handedly with my weak hand as well as my dominant hand.

Now, tactically, engaging a dangerous threat with a child in your arms is just plain ignorance. Seek cover & concealment. Place innocents there. Move AWAY from them, then engage the threat. But that doesn’t make a good picture…

283 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 7:40:09pm

re: #280 calochortus

Ouch.

What happens when you fire a 30/30 when you’re not holding the rifle correctly. In my case, it was a relaxed shoulder. I learned my lesson after that shot, press the damn butt of the rifle squarely in your shoulders and hold that fucker tight!

284 b.d.  Jun 29, 2014 7:40:48pm

Senator Al Franken

285 calochortus  Jun 29, 2014 7:41:29pm

re: #282 William Barnett-Lewis

Good to know.

286 Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2014 7:42:13pm

re: #282 William Barnett-Lewis

Only some of the most insanely over powered hand guns require that. 99% of hand guns can be easily and safely fired with one hand. My usual practice routine include shooting single handedly with my weak hand as well as my dominant hand.

Now, tactically, engaging a dangerous threat with a child in your arms is just plain ignorance. Seek cover & concealment. Place innocents there. Move AWAY from them, then engage the threat. But that doesn’t make a good picture…

Of course not, because in the twisted logic of people who approve of these sorts of pictures, a person with a gun doesn’t need to run. Only a “victim” runs, a gun wielder runs at the danger because it’s a magic talisman that will protect them from harm.

287 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 7:43:37pm

re: #284 b.d.

I tweeted this. Too good.

288 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 7:46:43pm

David Weigel is writing a book about progressive rock’s heyday and has been interviewing all the big players of the prog rock era of the 60s, 70s and 80s. I, for one, can’t wait to get the book (I like Weigel’s writing and reporting and sense of humor).

This quote. This fucking quote.

289 teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2014 7:48:07pm

That’s twice today that a comment of mine ended up on a thread right when a new thread is created.

#FirstWorldProblems

290 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 29, 2014 7:51:12pm

re: #239 teleskiguy

I don’t understand all the hate, vitriol and slander that befalls Charles regularly. I mean, I thought this site was irrelevant!

IRRELLLEVANNTTT!!!!

Hey. That’s not a football!

291 wheat-dogghazi  Jun 29, 2014 7:51:52pm

re: #286 Targetpractice

Of course not, because in the twisted logic of people who approve of these sorts of pictures, a person with a gun doesn’t need to run. Only a “victim” runs, a gun wielder runs at the danger because it’s a magic talisman that will protect them from harm.

It comes from watching too many movies where the hero(es) walk or run unscathed through a hail of flying bullets before they shoot the bad guys dead with one shot each.

292 J A P  Jun 29, 2014 7:55:23pm

re: #194 Feline Fearless Leader

Have you tried posting it to bug guide?

bugguide.net

293 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 29, 2014 7:56:44pm

re: #274 calochortus

I’ve never fired a gun in my life, but aren’t you supposed to brace the hand holding the gun to avoid being hit in the forehead when you fire said gun? Kind of hard with your left arm full of kid.

Depends what caliber and how well trained you are with your every day carry (EDC). 9mm and even .45 are manageable with your strong hand unsupported. Now if you have a .45 sub-compact, that will kick, but not enough that you’d likely knock yourself in the forehead. I’d never EDC anything other than a 9mm. Heck. I’d never EDC anything to begin with.

294 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 29, 2014 8:02:35pm

re: #293 GlutenFreeJesus

Depends what caliber and how well trained you are with your every day carry (EDC). 9mm and even .45 are manageable with your strong hand unsupported. Now if you have a .45 sub-compact, that will kick, but not enough that you’d likely knock yourself in the forehead. I’d never EDC anything other than a 9mm. Heck. I’d never EDC anything to begin with.

I like my .38 special revolver these days. More than enough for most police for over a century and still doing just fine. More than enough for me. Now when I was in the army my carry was a .45 ACP 1911 but that’s just how it was. I am getting one again but that’s nostalgia; if I feel the need to carry (and, yes, I have a license) it will be my DAO Model 10 revolver loaded like the FBI did.

295 BeachDem  Jun 29, 2014 8:08:50pm

re: #266 teleskiguy

I cannot think of anything I’d want to do less than read a book by Fund and von Spakovski. Scooping out my eyeballs with a spoon would be preferable—in fact, would be pleasurable by comparison.

296 piratedan  Jun 29, 2014 8:09:25pm

re: #284 b.d.

and he got paid for that movie!

297 gwangung  Jun 29, 2014 8:25:28pm

re: #282 William Barnett-Lewis

Only some of the most insanely over powered hand guns require that. 99% of hand guns can be easily and safely fired with one hand. My usual practice routine include shooting single handedly with my weak hand as well as my dominant hand.

Now, tactically, engaging a dangerous threat with a child in your arms is just plain ignorance. Seek cover & concealment. Place innocents there. Move AWAY from them, then engage the threat. But that doesn’t make a good picture…

I don’t think that is universally taught.

That’s one of the reasons I have problems with ammosexuals.

298 OhNoZombies!  Jun 29, 2014 9:06:36pm

re: #267 Targetpractice

It’s a rather neat and tidy staged photo, but that’s about it. A realistic one would be her fumbling in her jacket for her gun while trying to avoid dropping her child.

The first thing I thought was that her kids were going to be deaf and terrified.

299 darthstar  Jun 30, 2014 6:36:46am

re: #260 Pie-onist Overlord

Gun-fucking Meme of the Day

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Best gun responsibility commercial ever. Mornin’ everyone.

Youtube Video


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